Friday, January 29, 2016

U14G / U14 Girls Youth Soccer

U14G  / U14 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

410 Most of the clubs do that already! We are at U15/16 next year no more 100+ girl tryouts and expect to get picked from the crowd. Coaches know who they want based on behind the talk conversations.

Anonymous said...

How can they make an announcement when they have no idea how it will work and who will be part of it. Another shit show.
The idea sounds great, but zero confidence in with this federation. They will all be gone in two years and someone else will be cleaning up their mess. its like the Goverment taking over healthcare, it's works in every other country, or does it?

Anonymous said...

4:10 Yes they're doing things no one else is doing, right.

Since they're getting pretty much as many D1 recruits as PDA... I would be fine with whatever they're doing as it's working, but that's me.

And Lord knows the sh!t show that your kid is on, and what they're doing that you're not aware that they're doing.

Yes, tell parents to stay away, coming from an expert like you.

Anonymous said...

PL also runs a rugby program. Maybe that's where the future's at.

Anonymous said...

DA does not disallow high school sports just high school soccer. So track lacrosse etc all ok as long as coach gets the conflict.

Anonymous said...

Most girls that play high end soccer come from middle and upper middle class families. This is not because they can afford it, it is because that is who is attracted to the sport. Like Lacrosse. They don't need to make soccer "free" to make sure the less fortunate who have tremendous ability have the opportunity to play. On the boys side that is true and that is why the DA makes some sense.

Anonymous said...

Your opinion is far from reality!

Poor inner city Spanish culture play lots of soccer . It is a life style even without the fancy teams or clubs.

Anonymous said...

"USSF officials expressed concern about coaching behavior at some ECNL clubs, and asked why ECNL hasn’t mandated minimum USSF licensing (likely A or B level) for its coaches; in response, ECNL officials noted the scarcity of places in USSF’s high-level courses and the impossible mandate that would pose for many of its member clubs.
USSF expressed a desire for ECNL to adopt no-re-entry substitution rules, a mandate for a minimum of four practice sessions per week, and a combined U17/18 age group; ECNL officials responded that they have been ready and willing to adopt any such competition rules USSF requests.

The federation seems determined to mirror the boys Development Academy in every way, including two-year age group ranges, mandates like a minimum of four days of training per week and federation coaching licensing requirements, and rules barring outside activities such as playing high-school soccer."

I love the no-rentry, so what does a team do, who starts?

when 2001s are u17 they will play with 2000s
when they are u18 they will play with 2002s again.

So for 2001s not only do youhave to be the best among all of 2001s but you also needto beat out 2000 girls. For the current u14 2001s that's a big hill, not saying they can't. This is not for everyone. So why the non-ECNL people are getting so pumped up is beyond me. One more thing IT WON'T BE FREE!!


1. DA for the elite players

2. ECNL - will have some elite players

3. NPL/NationalLeague - will have some elite playersbut more premier players

4. EDP/NYPL/CCL - good travel soccer

5. PAGS/JAGS/WAGS/LIJSL - good local travel soccer

GS 4 life

Anonymous said...

Maybe I'm the only parent on this blog with a daughter who I know is not DA material.

If my current club "wins" the DA lottery, does this mean the non-DA teams in the club will be subsidizing the "free" DA team?

Anonymous said...

ECNL is over stop beating that dead horse. That is the whole point of what US Soccer is doing, They are taking the role of ECNL at the top of pyramid. Why would players below top level put up with bloated rosters, not dressing for events, driving great distances to practice 2-3 times per week when those ECNL Clubs no longer have the top of pyramid league and the college coaches? They want the USYSA State Cup, Regional and National events to be the showcase events again and they want that income. If they wanted to partner with ECNL going forward the Soccer Federation could have had that, they abviously don't and they want control of youth soccer and the events and the $$ back. ECNL is over.Let it go in peace. It was a good ride but nothing lasts forever in youth soccer, the ground is always moving under your feet to the next thing.

Anonymous said...

I don't think it is as simple as all the ECNL players will simply defect to DA clubs. I think four practices a week and no high school soccer will be a deal-breaker for many players.

Anonymous said...

not for the most talented and most committed and thats the point . shuffle through those that can't or won't -this is not who the DA is looking for anyway.



Anonymous said...

You make my point for me. The most committed will go to the DA, but I think the pool of talented but not committed is still plenty large.

Anonymous said...

8:18
You are right to realize that everyone non-academy player at the club has to subsidize the academy players who pay 0. Many parents have a problem with that and they leave.

Anonymous said...

4:59 It is true the DA does allow players to play other high school sports. But their practices start at six and six thirty, so it is almost impossible to be on time, or have the energy to keep up with the other players who are not playing HS sports. HS track ends between 5:30 and 6:00 pm and has two to three days of heavy running involved, do you think a player can then go and compete against other DA players in practice after that?
Think about a player wishing to play HS Basketball and how much running there is during practice and how late practices end (not to mention games). DA coaches do not want to hear about why your late for practice certainly do not accept a player missing them. That's a sure sign that your not committed to the same thing the rest of the players are. Been down the DA road already and as mentioned, it is incredible as long as your totally committed. I can appreciate your open mindedness about the possibilities, but if your playing DA ball, your not playing anything else.

Anonymous said...

The ones who have the desire and talent will move to the DA Teams, but the rest will all be NPL or whatever is the 2nd tier when the smoke clears. What many of you are missing is this is a power play to gain back the business from not only ECNL but US Club Soccer as well.
There will be no reason for an ECNL now that it will not be able to claim the top of the pyramid. They will no longer have the leverage that allows them to do whatever they want and still keep many of the best players.

Anonymous said...

If then Federation wanted to amek an accomodation with ECNL then could have and would have done so as ECNL clearly bent over backward at the meeting to accomodate pretty much anything the Federation wanted but to no avail. It was a very contentious reason because there was no accomodation or movement to work together from the Federation side.

Anonymous said...

Lost in all of these most recent posts about saga and intrigue and headaches from ECNL, NPL, DA is the poster child for the terrible outcomes from all of this hype.
Holmdel-NJX and MatchFit announced that their 3 year relationship is over. The presser stated the as per usual words of "everything was wonderful but..."

Let's look at the scoreline:
Coaching: The deal called for MF to coach the team but the mommy coach tried from the start to hand select the MF coach who would keep her on the sideline and with a voice. MF dumps the mommy (who also was the club president who did the deal).

Coach's Kid: Coach's kid was a regular player about the field when with NJX but was rated sub-standard by the MF staff, and she gets dumped by the MF staff to (deep) reserve status.

Players: The lot of players get scattered about the ECNL and NPL MF teams. 98% of whom never wanted to change their NJX team nor go to MF. With the change, they pay more, play less and drive more. (Is that a part of the DA/ECNL/NPL formula: Pay more, play less, drive more?)

Club/Money: Holmdel loses the team to MF and along with it all of the fees.

Winner: MatchFit

"A match (fit) made in Holmdel."

The USSF has just announced that this deal and this particular team will be featured as a part of the Club Education Curricula Series entitled: "When Incompetence Meets Greed: The Art and Science of Taking Advantage of the Mommy Coach Who Simultaneously Takes Advantage of Parents and Players"

Anonymous said...

@10:19

Sorry maybe i was unclear about which coaches need to understand. Its tge highschool coaches that need to know the DA is the priority. And some hs coaches i think would want to have these great athletes compete for the even on a limited basis. Certainly cross country and track would be a great supplement to soccer. Maybe the team sports would have more of an issue with limited availability.

Anonymous said...

One family leaves, another replaces them.

ECNL will remain the gold mine that it is.

Lower tiered players with deep pockets will love the opportunity to play NPL. NPL players will replace those on the ECNL team that go DA.

The money train keeps chugging along.

Also, bear in mind that not every high school soccer team is a quality team with quality coaching. It can be more of a social experience.

Anonymous said...

7:48 you forget one thing - I will use PDA for this example in the fall of 2017 if their 1st was DA they would take players from 2 ECNL teams (2001 & 2000) and 4 NPL teams to make 1 team - let's see that's approx 120 players for 20 spots, what should the others do? stop playing? look for another team? Why would they? PDA has the brand and the track record of putting kids in school.

Anonymous said...

8:17 What you meant to say it that PDA's parents have the financial resourse's to get their kids in good schools, and PDA will attach their name to those players and take some credit for it. Just went through national signing day for all schools, there were players signing with proud parents in tow, some getting less than 8% of the actual tuition. Many might even get up to 30% the first year (on a $50.000 a year school), but that will not be offered the second year. I would suggest you try and have the ring removed from your nose so you cannot be lead around so easily.

Anonymous said...

IF PDA gets the DA, would they still be able to compete in the ECNL with their other teams? Would the ECNL kick them out? PDA could be a bad example because PDA is a brand. How about Richmond Untied in PDA's place? If they get a DA would they still be able to keep teams in the ECNL?

Anonymous said...

they leave to go pay somewhere else

Anonymous said...

PS. Which makes playing for a DA special like ODP was once.

11:05 I disagree - as I said before they are taking girls born 1/1/2000-12/31/2001 t0 form ONE team per DA club in today's world that's players from U14, U15 & U16 teams - that is some serious talent and it will be only the players with the drive that will make it all the other players will still play ECNL or NPL and all the HS sports they want plenty to go around. We all need to take a step back - for the 2001s do you really think your U14 star player can play with U16 ECNL level players? If the answer is yes,then there is no room for anything but soccer. The others need to keep it real.

The federation played nice and gave ECNL the respect to be heard. They don't need US Club or USYSA.

8:19 what are you talking about whn you say "They want the USYSA State Cup, Regional and National events to be the showcase events again and they want that income" you do realize the federation (USSF) is not the USYSA that runs those events, US club has the same events so why is one more important than the other?

Anonymous said...

8:17 I disagree.

Hypothetically, PDA could move their entire team up a rank. 1st team goes DA, NPL goes ECNL, etc. The DA status will bring in the better players from surrounding areas, so they will not be hurting for quality players. If they bring in 5 outside players for the DA, then that's 5 ECNL players that PDA does not need to look for, they just remain on the ECNL team. Of course, they'll be told that their chances of making the DA next year will be greatly enhanced by staying at PDA. Wash, spin, rinse, repeat.

They have the resources to support both DA and ECNL.

Anonymous said...

8:30 wait so these parent are bad because they make money and can pay for any school or soccer club? For real? Let's be real every club attaches their name to players that would play college soccer regardless of the club they play for. Why wouldn't they be proud of their kids going to school and still playing the game they love? Don't be jealous what makes you happy doesn't make them happy and that's okay remember it's okay to be different.

8:35 Why wouldn't Richmond United be able to keep their ECNL team? The ECNL is not that stupid as a league. The federation trumps all and it's only right they have the top of the pyramid league. There is no fight here, all they do is take the best players from two of their ECNL teams to form the DA team and then fill the ECNL roster spots with other players

DA 2001/2000

ECNL 2001 & 2000 teams

8:35 of course if you can play DA the player should and if the player isn't happy they should leave and pay else where.

Anonymous said...

and so the NJ blog goes on...

Anonymous said...

8:53 Thank you for seeing the truth. People on here are thinking that if their club becomes a DA Club, that their current top team will all be DA players. Boy do they have a shock coming their way. The last one about all the club's teams moving up one spot was almost comical. There is someone totally without a clue.

Anonymous said...

8:55 sticking with PDA why would they move an entire team?

Timeline

Today - U14 Storm, U15 Splash, U16 Gunners
Aug 2016 - 2001 ECNL - 2000 ECNL
Aug 2017 - 2001/2000 DA

moving one team up a rank would be stupid when you have Gunners, Splash & Storm players in your player pool - this doesn't include the NPL teams and outside players. The best outside players that can make this team would be foolish if they didn't come to this team. Everyone can want to play DA but the reality is not everyone can - it will be another world. So yes if your kid plays for a DA club they can move up - don't forget they will have eyes on them to make sure they are playing fair. How bad would a DA club look if one of their players made National pool via ODP and not their DA?

Anonymous said...

9:18 here - PS this is also the reason the Northeast Girls NPL doesn't have a PDP how bad would the ECNL club look if one of their NPL players was identified and this player wasn't on the ECNL team? it's stuff like this that won't fly anymore. Not saying any would, but they don't even have the opportunity.

Anonymous said...

Hint. My feeling is the Federation and ECNL meeting was very hostile because USSF plans on doing something with US Youth organization v US Club. Re-organizing the US Youth ODP structure to identifying DA players and using the current MLS teams to lead the first wave of DA Clubs first.

Anonymous said...

9:42 isn't that why the Boys DA was born. ODP made all the choices previously and it was a disaster. Look at the young ECNL player playing USWNT at the Concacaf tournament, in the past she would never have sniffed the field she's to tiny is what they would have said. u17 and the best player on the field, you telling me we didn't have other players like her in the past? Th NJ Soccer mom was the best CB we had for all those years? ODP did a horrible job identifying the right players. Portland Timbers do something similar to that with ODP in OR

Anonymous said...

Thus the reason why it's getting re-vamped more news to come in the coming months.

Anonymous said...

We won't hear anything until the end of the year at best, there is no plan in place. My daughter is playing at the Tc s on a regular basis, so I'm not concerned about making the da, but I am concerned that they will muck it up In the middle of critical years for our age. The one big difference in philosophies is that the DA is focused on the individual and ecnl on the team. Careful what we wish for. ECNL has large rosters primarily for $$$, this will dry up in a big way going forward. Guys like MO at PDA will no longer be able to justify this anymore.

Anonymous said...

@956 Your statement is false isn't 2 of the current WNT players Meghan Klingenberg standing at 5'2 identified through ODP and Crystal Dunn Standing at 5'1 which also went to the same scenario at ODP. Both coming from Non-ECNL Clubs but played for NC U. Again false statements without research based on your current level of bad experiences you most likely had.

Anonymous said...

10:21. Your daughter is playing at the TC on a regular basis? Congrats, but means absolutely nothing. TC is just another good training session with good players. doesn't guarantee a single thing.

Anonymous said...

@10:21 ECNL is focused on the team???? Guess you've never been in a showcase environment.

Training centers are nice, but be careful of politics (shocking, amirite), especially when several of the players wind up on the same team.....

Anonymous said...

10:22 what does that have to do with giving a U17 girl run with the WNT? The only true ECNL product and she was clearly the best player on the field if you're a soccer guy you can't argue that. Dunn and Kling are older and don't come close. Not saying they are not nice players just saying - with the ECNL and DA going forward we can create truly gifted players - I point you to Dortmund again a 17 year old playing 1st in Germany - ECNL/DA have created gifted players in just a few years.

Anonymous said...

Dunn is only 23 and 5 goals in one game is impressive in my opinion. Of course I'm not mocking the 17 year old but clearly their are other avenues to take let's hope she is still there 5 years from now and others like her and R.Dunn.

The topic was a statement you made about recognizing smaller players I just gave you two examples. I for one appreciate my daughter being on the taller side but I was trying to provide the blog an in-correct false statements you claim that identification programs target taller players. Let me repeat your quote @9:56 - "in the past she would never have sniffed the field she's to tiny is what they would have said."

Anonymous said...

11:59 that's my point she's got what 6 or 7 years of more training on a Non-ECNL team, Can you image what this kid and our daughter's will look like in 7 years training 4 x a week 10 months a year?.

Anonymous said...

9:08 I mentioned nothing about PDA parents and it being a bad thing that they can afford great schools for their kids. The fact that they are successful and can do so is a credit to them and their upbringing. My statement was regarding the post that PDA would simply have to move up their top team and "Presto", you have the new DA team.
After seeing all this chatter and the amount of know it all people that have never experienced it firsthand, I can't wait for it to start. There have been posters on here giving their actual experiences with the DA program, but it seems you PDA parents know better than anyone what its going to be and how easy its going to be to make it.
When those first DA tryouts are over and the teams are named, might be the most angry post we will ever see on this blog.

Anonymous said...

So 11:59 & 12:17 please explain to me why the DA boys that train 4x a week and are single sport specific have not produce the same quality our counter parts over seas have done. Sorry but all the athletic Gem's our WNT have produced are because of the larger pool of girls participating in the sport not because of ECNL/ODP etc. Hopefully the changes being made do not disturb this large pool and chase girls away to play other sports like it has done on the boys side. A player Gem will be found no matter what path they take DA, ECNL, NPL, College etc as long as the pool of kids is large some special kid will come out of it.

Anonymous said...

Agree with 9:42, this meeting made clear the Federation is interested in gong back to open model competition below DA after instituting DA at top of Pyramid instaed of closed model that ECNL presents. This is whey tjey are cozying up to USYSA instead of US Club Soccer. Also note new format at Region 1 Champions League etc and new administrative leadership at highest levels of USYSA/Region 1. Also note leading officer of ECNL just read the tea leaves and moved on to new job outside of ECNL just before recent meeting. Don't listen to those in denial on this site. they are desperate to hold on too their ECNL dollars. There are not enough parents out there to put up with their scams and sit out now that they are not top of pyramid. Also do not beleive The DA Clubs will be able to also be ECNL. There is a split coming and the Federation is no longer going to work with or support ECNL League.

Anonymous said...

The DA actually creates an interesting problem/opportunity for clubs like PDA.

Assuming they get DA when choosing players for the new team would it not be better to choose players outside your network and add them to the platform rather than cannibalize your own paying clientelle? Thus given the choice between two equal top kids I think the newbie has the advantage especially if lower income family.

I also believe that many of the DA kids will not be just moved up from the ecnl team. Only the kids that are clearly heads and shoulders above the rest will get that opportunity.

There are enough really talented girls to fill the DA from other non ecnl clubs to make it really competitive. If you think 99% of the top talent is ecnl at u14 you are making a very bad assumption.

Anonymous said...

12:17

4 times a week, 10 months a year for 6-7 years?

Now you are talking of foregoing college for your daughter just to play DA?

Anonymous said...

Come on, all

ECNL will live - and be quite strong, still.

Congratulations in advance to any ECNL players that make the DA commitment and grade (figure we know 2 of them from U14, the last 2 in national pool). As New Jerseyans we should respect and honor them.

Anonymous said...

What they don't train in college?

Anonymous said...

12:59 how many years has the DA been around? I believe 8 years, looking at year 1 when clubs had to follow the USSF curriculum. Take an 8 year old boy who has been in the DA system for 8 years and you can give players the tools to become gifted play makers like the borrussia dortmund player. ALSO our counter parts overseas have an OPEN league system(pro/rel) where the club that develops the player gets paid when the player is transferred to a big club in a higher division that further develops the player.

I also agree about our athletic GEMS on our WNT - we have a huge player pool. However,the young ECNL girl that just played with the WNT vs Puerto Rico is the first ECNL player gettinga shot.

Even if the player pool isn't large because of the limitationsby the DA the player pool will still be larger than other countries and with players training from U12 4x week 10 months a year sky is the limit. This is for the players that are all in - How it should be.

Anonymous said...

247 Sure and the DA has done wonders for the boys the past 8 years still feel free to chime in how our boys national teams are doing. DA cuts half those boys at U12-U16 those are ages that boys haven't even hit maturity yet and are still growing to become athletes. Those same boys moved out of DA fall in love with other sports like football, basketball, Lacrosse, Baseball, Hockey. That's the reason why boys DA to me still has not been successful those same boys moved out fall out of love with the sport at an early teen/pre-teen years. Other countries do not have this problem because other sports are not as accessible to them as they are in the U.S.

Hopefully this same scenario happening to boys does not translate to the girls side when the DA happens and girls leave the sport early and pursue other sports to play in college.

Anonymous said...

3:21 spoken like someone who has never left the country.
Our Boys NT will do well at this year's Copa and will do well in Russia as well.

First the MLS is a young league
Second the DA is a baby

But yet you compare us to the world

How does Italy stack up to us in Baseball? Are we that much better or are they new to the party?

We have Football>>Baseball>>Basketball>>Hockey>>Soccer in that order.

Europe has Soccer>>Basketball>>Hockey>>Volleyball>>Team Handball>>WaterPolo>>Hockey depending on the country you are from.

The Bottom line is We have never had a US player dress for CHELSEA or BORRUSIA DORTMUND ever. Why you keep saying the Boys DA has failed is beyond me. Did you watch the U20 World Cup? Did you see how our boys played? They played GREAT!!! and were eliminated by PKs not because they were outplayed

Anonymous said...

You can criticize 3:21 all you want, but he right about the cut process in regards to how the boys DA has worked. It actually pays to try out for DA after U16 when there is a little more maturity and a teenager is at least a little bit closer to making an educated decision. It also allows the player to see if HS ball is something they really want to do.

Anonymous said...

4:12 - agree! Most of our best athletes will pick other sports simply because of the money they can make at those sports over soccer.

The men and women USNT are not even always on TV. I can watch more Premier League soccer then MLS on TV.

Is the world catching up to the US women or are more and more girls choosing other sports? The big one is lacrosse.

Anonymous said...

Yeah - I can see it now - womens lacrosse on tv

Anonymous said...

I expect these numbers to be higher today. Beloware the Girl playerpoolsfor the top 5 countries.

FEMALE
1, 563,000 USA
407,000 Canada
237,000 Germany
107,000 Sweden
84,000 Australia
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Keep saying nothing is broken.

Anonymous said...

if we had 1 million of the best athletes picking a different sport we still have more than double the player pools of every country but Canada. France is not even in the top 5

I think the world is catching up for sure - if the above doesn't prove it to you nothing ever will 7:00.

Anonymous said...

A little different on the boys side if our top athletes pick a different sport where soccer is Number 1 in the other countries

MALE
1 344,000 USA
1,845,000 Germany
1,345,000 Brazil
1,300,000 South Africa
1,006,000 France
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Anonymous said...

**2,344,000 USA

Sorry Typo

Anonymous said...

Your numbers mean nothing since the overall population is so much higher in the USA

Anonymous said...

Women's college lacrosse can often be found on TV in season.

Anonymous said...

8:22 They mean the world pal example sticking to women

Who cares about the overall population - simple fact we have over 1.5 million girls playing youth soccer to find 30 for the NT very hard to get it right but you can get away with athletic players with little skill when for example Sweden only has 100k to pick from. So yes if we struggle beating teams that have a less player pool -

USA is the big fast Athletic kid that plays u10 soccer will run through a wall
Europe is the smaller skilled player not shot at u10 to win

but now we are at U14 the gap has closed and if we don't do anything to fix the way we do things that little skilled player will pass just like the big fast athletic player we all have posted about.

GS4 Life

Anonymous said...

Michael Jordan was cut from high school jv team as a freshman. I'm sure the DA would have cut him too...

Anonymous said...

GS4 life may want to come up another name soon...
GotSoccer will be obsolete along with ECNL soon...

DA4 life?

Anonymous said...

@1:00
What do you mean by the Michael Jordan comment? Soccer was never his sport so why would he want to be in soccer DA?

Anonymous said...

http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2016/02/as-a-womens-soccer-nation-we-have-a-skill-problem/?utm_source=TopDrawerSoccer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=30e86ff48b-General_2_19_162_19_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8340315a79-30e86ff48b-32728453

Anonymous said...

GS 4 Life = GotSoccer for Life
GS 4 Life = Good Soccer for Life

DA 4 life - Not me even though I have been calling for this for years to develop our NT players. Is my kid at that level? At times - so if she has one of those no so moments she will not be. I can't do anything about that - that's on her - I just have fun BSing about the game in general and the results.

Anonymous said...

STA in 3 weeks

No accepted list, let alone brackets.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 3;05 great read - kind of what I've been saying. We have the numbers and there is always strength in numbers - now if we can develop it no one would ever come close on both sides (yes I am a homer - go USA!!)

Not killing ECNL -but the USSF has every right to start a DA without consulting anyone - they are the US federation end of story. having said that I think the ECNL did a great job with no DA and I think they will do a great job with a DA. I just hope the clubs don't play stupid and make this a us vs them thing.

Country always before club -don't be stupid ECNL.

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

Yeah, don’t be stupid ECNL, you heard the man. Personally, I think my daughter is better than Mallory Poo, but that’s just my wife talking, I am more neutral. US Soccer is getting a bad wrap on this board, kinda like Beyonce, but no one I know listens to her stuff anyway. Got read about the mini-mouse midfielder, good luck finding a coach who actually watches LaLiga, for me its about both, great skill, and physicality, similar to the aforementioned M. Poo.

Go USA!

Anonymous said...

The player pool totals are just a number with no context. At least for Germany, the cost to play, even at high level is a small fraction of what it is here. It can be argued that their player pool for high level soccer is larger because of that.

Anonymous said...

7:41 how can you say that.

We have 1.5 million little girls like 7:32's kid and we can't put a team together that blows away everybody 4:0? China according to a report by The New York Times, only has 7,000 girls above the age of 12 that are registered to play soccer. They beat us 1:0 and we beat them 1:0 at the World Cup. Context you want? Strength with Numbers.

Not killing them, just saying most of the people that identify talent probably aren't qualified. Our NT is great and won a bunch not because we were the most skilled - but because we had athletic women that could play soccer while the rest of the world didn't invest in the game. But thanks to ECNL and some other Non-ECNL clubs we are developing World Class players, we don't have many but we are starting to see brilliance and will keep up with the European powers that invest in the womens game. The DA will take us to then ext level - not our kids -but the girls that are 10 years old in 2017 they will see the benefits as by the time they are ready to play Academy ball the DA will have established itself.

PS. Didn't someone post Crystal Dunn was not ECNL? She was ODP and also played for Albertson Fury ‘91.

I agree 7:32 go USA, MLS & NWSL

Anonymous said...

This is because China AXES the weak kids early

Only reason there are that few girls playing

Which do you prefer? Our system or theirs?

Anonymous said...

7:41 i see you have bought the sales pitch from USSF that if our best girls don't play in DA then the rest of world will pass us by. That is nonsense. There are great coaches in DA, ECNL, and throughout our youth programs. The US women win because there is $$ in women sports in the US due to title 9 and the best female athletes, for the most part, are playing soccer. Our women's program has set the bar and, hopefully, the rest of the world will catch up. On an international level the women need at least 8 countries to be competitive. The total number of players participating in soccer is not the issue n developing out top international teams. To develop top international teams, its the number of truly elite players that matters. USSF has not figured out how to attract our top, super elite male athletes and b/c of this our men's DA has not improved the level of our top international teams in comparison to the rest of the world.

Anonymous said...

DA announced for Northern Virginia

PWSI, VSA and CYA will merge efforts just at the academy level (will keep their respective teams in Virginia Premiership)

Anonymous said...

Manhattan brackets are out

Top flight is

Manhattan
Seacoast Maine
MF Black
Region 1 ODP Blue

SJEC
Yankee United
ISA Atletico
Region 1 ODP

Quickstrike and Beachside headline second flight

Albertson NPL and SDFC the third

Anonymous said...

SJEB, sorry.......

Anonymous said...

Thank you 9:41. Can we stop with the sky is falling post regarding women's soccer? Are we suppose to win every year because we have greater numbers of girls playing soccer? Other teams like Japan, China (just to name a few) spend just as much time training an playing as the US National team. So wouldn't they improve and learn from their mistakes just like any team does. Chicken Little needs to take down some of National Team Posters from his room and relax.

Anonymous said...

VDA Announces 4 DA Teams for 2016-17
Virginia Development Academy is happy to announce it will have 4 teams competing in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy League for the 2016-17 season.

The 4 boys teams will be U12 (two teams), U13, & U14 in age. The birth year for players on those teams is broken down below:

U12: Born 2004
U13: Born 2003
U14: Born 2002

U.S. Soccer has approved the transfer of the Development Academy from Prince William Courage to Virginia Development Academy.


Not for girls

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup Girls U14 Premier
Youth Soccer Rankings USA score

33.66 LDC UNITED ATTACK (PAE)
33.50 PENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE)
33.15 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT 20 PREMIER (SC)
33.10 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPL (MA)
32.80 PITTSBURGH RIVERHOUNDS ACADEMY (PAW)
32.68 HBC SPARK (NYE)
32.41 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY U14G (NYW)
32.29 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL (NYE)

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup - Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores

Girls U14 Classic Orange
33.41 DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)
33.12 CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)
32.89 LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)
32.80 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
32.72 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
32.34 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)
31.74 CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)
31.71 ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)

Girls U14 Classic Black
33.21 KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)
32.78 CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)
32.67 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
32.56 EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)
31.97 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)
31.95 PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)
31.65 CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)
31.33 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
31.11 RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)
30.62 RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)
30.31 ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)
30.20 PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup - Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores


Girls U14 Platinum Orange
34.20 NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA)
34.19 ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)
33.87 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
33.69 FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)
33.49 STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)
33.02 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
32.90 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
31.29 CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)

Girls U14 Platinum Black
33.54 BEADLING SC ELITE (PAW)
33.44 ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)
33.25 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
33.25 VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA)
33.17 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)
32.96 REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)
32.80 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)
32.75 HFC READY '01 (PAE)

Girls U14 Platinum White
33.33 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
32.80 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)
32.63 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)
32.61 FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
32.41 PIPELINE BLACK (MD)
31.96 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)
31.88 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)
30.96 VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)

Anonymous said...

I don't know if the world will pass the US women by in soccer and I am not planning on losing any sleep over it one way or another. I just pointed out that if you are talking about world cup type soccer, look at the size of the elite pool, not just the total pool.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup - Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores

Girls U14 Superior Orange
34.36 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
33.99 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)
33.78 FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)
33.76 YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
33.65 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
33.63 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
33.61 CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)
33.20 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)

Girls U14 Superior Black
34.11 FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)
33.49 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
33.24 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
33.08 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
33.04 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)
32.85 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)
32.82 MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)
31.79 LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup - Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores

Girls U14 Elite Orange
34.82 BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)
34.70 OAKWOOD SC (CT)
34.47 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)
34.40 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)
34.28 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
34.11 NSA TWISTERS (IL)
34.06 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
33.26 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)

Girls U14 Elite Black
34.50 PDA AJAX (NJ)
34.33 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)
34.28 ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)
34.23 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
33.53 CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
33.38 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
33.27 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
32.58 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup - Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores

Girls U14 Championship
36.39 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)
36.18 FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)
35.81 PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)
35.66 FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)
35.35 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)
35.27 CASL 01 ECNL (NC)
35.01 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
34.93 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)

Anonymous said...

if Jefferson Cup used Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores to make their flights
They would look like this:

Girls U14 Championship
36.39 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)
36.18 FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)
35.81 PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)
35.66 FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)
35.35 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)
35.27 CASL 01 ECNL (NC)
35.01 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
34.93 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)

Girls U14 Elite Orange
34.82 BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)
34.70 OAKWOOD SC (CT)
34.50 PDA AJAX (NJ)
34.47 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)
34.40 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)
34.36 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
34.33 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)
34.28 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)

Girls U14 Elite Black
34.28 ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)
34.23 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
34.20 NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA)
34.19 ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)
34.11 NSA TWISTERS (IL)
34.11 FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)
34.06 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
33.99 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)

Girls U14 Superior Orange
33.87 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
33.78 FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)
33.76 YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
33.69 FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)
33.65 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
33.63 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
33.61 CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)
33.66 LDC UNITED ATTACK (PAE)

Girls U14 Superior Black
33.54 BEADLING SC ELITE (PAW)
33.53 CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
33.50 PENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE)
33.49 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
33.49 STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)
33.44 ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)
33.41 DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)
33.38 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)

Girls U14 Platinum Orange
33.33 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
33.27 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
33.26 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
33.25 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
33.25 VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA)
33.24 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
33.21 KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)
33.20 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)

Girls U14 Platinum Black
33.17 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)
33.15 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT 20 PREMIER (SC)
33.12 CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)
33.10 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPL (MA)
33.08 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
33.04 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)
33.02 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
32.96 REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)

Girls U14 Platinum White
32.90 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
32.89 LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)
32.85 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)
32.82 MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)
32.80 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)
32.80 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)
32.80 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
32.80 PITTSBURGH RIVERHOUNDS ACADEMY (PAW)

Girls U14 Classic Orange
32.78 CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)
32.75 HFC READY '01 (PAE)
32.72 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
32.68 HBC SPARK (NYE)
32.67 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
32.63 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)
32.61 FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
32.58 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)

Girls U14 Classic Black
32.56 EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)
32.41 PIPELINE BLACK (MD)
32.41 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY U14G (NYW)
32.34 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)
32.29 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL (NYE)
31.97 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)
31.96 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)
31.95 PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)
31.88 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)
31.79 LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)
31.74 CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)
31.71 ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)

Girls U14 Premier
31.65 CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)
31.33 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
31.29 CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)
31.11 RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)
30.96 VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)
30.62 RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)
30.31 ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)
30.20 PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)

Anonymous said...

Looks like Jefferson Cup may have used those rankings for flighting if top flight is exactly same as rankings, although the in Elite flight rankings have PDA Ajax above Maryland United Red ECNL and they just spanked Ajax at Bethesda.

Anonymous said...

The way the top flight is exactly the same makes you think this is what they used. Or they just could of said "who the hell else can we put in there".

Anonymous said...

What the above shows is that the NJ teams in the lower brackets were put in brackets based on GS.

Anonymous said...

MANHATTAN SC KICK-OFF CLASSIC 2016

Girls U14 PLATINUM BLACK
34.13 ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)
33.09 YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)
32.53 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)
32.44 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)
31.92 SEACOAST UNITED MAINE SC GU14 ELITE JN (ME)
30.89 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL BLACK 01 (NJ)
00.00 REGION I GIRLS ODP BLUE (USA)
00.00 REGION I GIRLS ODP (USA)

U14 PLATINUM RED
32.67 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)
32.31 SUSA FC LONG ISLAND ALLIANCE G01 (NYE)
32.23 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL (NYE)
31.84 QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE NPL 02 (NYE)
31.82 HAUPPAUGE HOT SHOTZ (NYE)
31.47 NHP WILDCATS LADY JAGUARS (NYE)
30.84 MASSAPEQUA SC HURRICANES (NYE)
30.49 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FORCE FC NPL (NJ)

Anonymous said...

Doesnt matter - 11:25

As long as we are getting good games

Anonymous said...

Here we go again

Platinum black
Platinum red

Both platinum so must be equal

I think not

If you are flighting on merit, tournament directors, NAME the damn things so we know this. Jeez-us

Anonymous said...

2016 Ultimate Cup Girls U14 Ultimate I
34.15 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
32.49 NORTH UNION UNITED 01F WAVE (PAE)
31.90 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)
31.87 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)
31.34 VSA NPL ELITE 01 (VA)
00.00 RICHMOND UNITED U13 ECNL (VA)

Anonymous said...

GPS MARCH MADNESS Girls U14 Girls Elite
34.63 OAKWOOD SC (CT)
33.21 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
32.73 CONNECTICUT FOOTBALL UNITED U14 NPL (CT)
32.11 CFC NORTH WOLVES U14G (CT)
32.01 GPS MA METRO NORTH ELITE GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
31.47 GPS ME PHOENIX U14G ELITE (ME)
30.09 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL (MA)
00.00 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (MA)

Anonymous said...

Why are they throwing in the ODP team, to fill-out the bracket?? They should win this flight, if they are as advertised, best girls in region 1. Hope the weather cooperates, might go see a game if any are held in Westchester.

Anonymous said...

I would like to know who is part of Region 1 ODP players because not all NJ ODP players invited. Or is it a select few from NY ? Please don't call yourselves Region 1 ODP players if not all were asked to be a part of the team. Who made this decision ?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry 1237, not all ODP players are extremely talented just because they may have ODP in the name. It is a lot of politics also.

Anonymous said...

Pretty sure it's u13 Region 1 ODP.

Anonymous said...

So the u13 Region 1 ODP playing in U14 slot ? Why did they not ask the U14 play in their own u14 slot ? Politics again. Surprise

Anonymous said...

Is that '02 or '03 ODP?

Anonymous said...

This is the u14 board. Most of these girls are 2001. The u14 Region 1 ODP girls are 2001. Why would you ask if it's 2002 or 2003 ?

Anonymous said...

It is the 2002 team - The 2001s can't play u14 since some of them are U15

Anonymous said...

02s really arent playing up since many (most if not all) are U14

So I asked if it was the '03, which would be a very strong U13 and fit in that bracket.

Also, some '02 ODP players are ON teams in that bracket, I'd guess.

Anonymous said...

I made the comment because under u14 manhatten brackets, which the girls are u14 club now, even though region 1 odp would be u15, it says region 1 odp girls. To me that it was the true u14 girls and just called themselves region 1 odp. Not thinking any girls u13 region 1 playing up. If that's the case then sure teams do play up. if the region 1 odp girls u15 would be playing their own age group under the manhatten brackets (noted as u14)

Anonymous said...

Don't you guys do ODP?

2001s are U15
2002s are U14

It doesn't matter what they do on their clubs - we are talking ODP team

Anonymous said...

223 Yes my daughter does ODP that is why I was asking. Manhattan brackets have the current u14 clubs playing , which would be ODP 2001. Apparently the region 1 ODP that signed up is the current u13, but u14 according to ODP.

Anonymous said...

ODP always crosses two club age groups obviously, so this would have to be the 2002s which are a mix of U14/U13.

Anonymous said...

2:23

Their club team could be in the same tournament

Come on now - follow along.

Which team would they then represent?

I honestly dont care. Just saying that is a reason it might be the '03s.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean which they represent? The Region 1 team of course - that's why they do ODP brother - club takes a back seat no questions asked.

Anonymous said...

How did the area ODP teams do in the VA friendliest this weekend?

Anonymous said...

Continental FC Talent ID games were a fail. Unorganized and unimpressive. I know several who won't bother with the second one.

Anonymous said...

8:18 which age group was unimpressive 02s or 01s? I doubt you watched both.


New Jersey Cup 2016 - Girls U14 Super Group

A
Jersey Shore Boca Jr. Fusion
FC Copa Academy 01 NPL Lima
Winner plays STA Morris United NPL 01
---------------------------------------
B
GPS NJ Central
FC Berna Legacy 01
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C
NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL
Princeton SA IGFA 01-02 NPL
---------------------------------------
D
TSF Academy 01/02
SDFC Samba
---------------------------------------
A vs B
C vs D
---------------------------------------
E
Real Sounders
Monroe Twp. SC NJM Elite
Winner plays SJEB 01
---------------------------------------
F
New Jersey Rush 01 Blue
PDA Ajax
---------------------------------------
G
NJCSA Elite-Manalapan
NJ Stallions Academy Tempest
---------------------------------------
H
NJ Wildcats Galaxy
Wall Wave
---------------------------------------
E vs F
G vs H

Anonymous said...

Can't be a region 1 03 team. 2002s were the youngest age group at the ODP Camp last year.

Anonymous said...

8:18 you got that right. Best player there was 02 keeper from PL.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 9:26

Anonymous said...

8:18 ID events were not fully at full capacity this weekend due to ODP regional friendly's many of the better players attend the event as many parents paid a few months ago prior to knowing all these ID events where occurring. PF cancelled there event due to many of their players attending it, either way DA is coming so things will change once again in a few months.

Does anyone know if Delaware clubs will be merging due to the BYC change?

Anonymous said...

The youngest age group at a Region 1 camp in 2015 was U12, 2003. The Region 1 teams to play at Manhattan are 2003s, who were first identified at the U12 Camp in Rhode Island last summer, then further identified at their training camp in December. These girls are now currently on their U13, 2003, state teams, but representing the Region based on their U12 performance.

Anonymous said...

8:18(PL goalie parent?), must have been watching the 02's. They did drills and small sided games the entire time. The 01's split into 3 teams and scrimmaged full sided the whole time. 5 coaches/evaluators, very organized. And yes keep in mind you weren't watching Cfc's top players, they were with the odp team. You were watching the A team subs and the B & C teams.

Anonymous said...

Thank you 10:25 - lot of non-CFC players?

Anonymous said...

Not really, 4-5 01's, a few more at 02 but that was the larger group, about 55 vs 35. But because the CFC players all wore their uniforms it was pretty obvious. And let's face it, those are the girls that were being evaluated, they know what they have with the current players(same with PF's ID sessions). I would say most but certainly not all of the girls who stood out were not CFC players. I think there were 4 from PL.

Anonymous said...

I suppose it would have been better if the home club kids wore their club jerseys so that a parent could easily tell who they were 'competing' with, instead of just having some friendly games and actually having some fun.

Anonymous said...

10:25 Yes agreed the 01's had an abundance of players which resulted to more evaluators it's the biggest transition year as many are headed to HS or currently playing HS. Good showing for the 01 group.

8:18 if your are the PL goalie parent? You know many of your players were with PA's ODP team since you have a few players from PL were down there also.

10:25 not sure if your statement is true of CFC 01's/02's do not have many players that are with PA's ODP its majority of non-ECNL players.

Anonymous said...

10:48 it's not about having fun it's about identifying kids for their teams at PF and CFC, think of it as additional tryouts which is helpful v just 2 tryout days. Plus it does say ID Events for PF and CFC not friendly scrimmages.

Anonymous said...

How was the U.S. Training camp last night? Will this be replaced when the DA begins? My brother told me the younger age was a joke, with only three coaches and one was a dedicated goalie coach and no one paying attention. It was my nieces first time there and said he was not impressed. I would hope/think there would be at least six coaches at events like this?

Anonymous said...

I'm shocked NJ CRUSH is not doing Manhattan and state cup. Any chance you will get into PDA this spring, you never play this one and it's right down the road.

Anonymous said...

Looks like they are in a lower bracket at Manhattan.

Anonymous said...

Is the '02 Penn Legacy keeper a U14?

thanks

Anonymous said...

It's possible that players not wanting DA could combine US Training with either club play (EDP/ECNL) or ODP.

If the US Training Center is just an exercise to place younger players into the DA, then that will certainly disrupt those clubs that use the training center to recruit.

Anonymous said...

11:24 what state are you talking about for the training center last night? Thanks

Anonymous said...

The best players will head to PF. CFC's only attended as a backup and for curiosity sake. See how many turn out Sunday for PF's second compared to CFC's second on Saturday.

Anonymous said...

The best keeper I have seen is the younger PDA keeper, although she looks like a u15 keeper. I think she is playing u12 now, not the Galaxy keeper in our age group at U.S. training. The training was not at high standards last night, but a lot of good talent there. And yes, only two people watching and not watching much.

Anonymous said...

NJ training center, although it was closer to pa. Late night coming home.

Anonymous said...

Look like MF u14 has the majority of player born in 2002, this could make for a very strong team with BYC, PDA has just the opposite. Feedback?

Anonymous said...

10:47

3 actually, with only the goalie being impressive from what I saw. Let's see if she returns for the second now.

Anonymous said...

she is an 02 keeper

Anonymous said...

Word on the PA streets is PL U14 is most likely disbanding and all girls looking elsewhere...PU keeping their team as is, playing up whomever they want and not minding the BYC...PAC is 50/50 and will go through roster changes...

Anonymous said...

12:51

3 02's + 1 01 = 4

Trust me.

Anonymous said...

Where will most of the PL team go especially the 01's?

Anonymous said...

PTS--GP-W-L--T-GF-GA
2.09 11 7 2 2 29 13 Penn Fusion SA 02 Pre-ECNL
1.25 12 5 7 0 19 24 Penn Fusion SA 02 NPL

1.64 11 5 3 3 19 09 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14
1.50 12 5 4 3 21 18 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL

2.33 03 2 0 1 02 00 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U15
1.50 04 2 2 0 04 07 Penn Fusion SA 00 NPL


0.91 11 3 07 1 17 24 Connecticut FC 02 Pre-ECNL
0.42 12 1 09 2 05 32 Continental FC 02 NPL

0.00 11 0 11 0 02 29 Continental FC Delco ECNL U14
1.25 12 4 05 3 18 18 Continental FC 01 NPL

0.33 03 0 02 1 01 03 Continental FC Delco ECNL U15
2.33 03 2 00 1 04 02 Continental FC 00 NPL

0.82 11 2 6 3 11 20 FC Bucks 02 Pre-ECNL
1.00 12 4 8 0 10 29 FC Bucks 02 NPL

0.30 10 1 9 0 05 47 FC Bucks ECNL U14
0.64 11 2 8 1 08 28 FC Bucks 01 NPL

1.67 03 1 0 2 02 02 FC Bucks ECNL U15
0.75 04 1 3 0 04 10 FC Bucks 00 NPL

Anonymous said...

Sorry 1:03 only watched 02's.

Anonymous said...

1:03
Looking at the map, you'd think they'd go to PAC but PL parent will need to answer that question

Anonymous said...


1.00 11 3 6 2 17 24 Match Fit Academy 02 Pre-ECNL
2.00 12 8 4 0 29 18 Match Fit Academy NE NPL 02
0.44 09 1 7 1 10 49 Match Fit Academy NY NPL 02


2.18 11 7 1 3 27 09 Match Fit Academy ECNL U14
2.33 12 9 2 1 30 14 Match Fit Academy NE NPL 01
1.00 09 3 6 0 09 19 Match Fit Academy NY NPL 01


0.67 03 0 1 2 02 03 Match Fit Academy ECNL U15
0.33 03 0 2 1 03 05 Match Fit Academy NE NPL 00
0.00 02 0 2 0 01 09 Match Fit Academy NY NPL 00


2.62 13 11 1 1 38 7 PDA 02 Pre-ECNL
2.83 12 11 0 1 48 3 PDA South 02 NPL
2.57 14 12 2 0 42 9 PDA North 02 NPL

1.82 11 06 3 2 20 11 PDA ECNL U14
2.67 12 10 0 2 39 07 PDA South 01 NPL
2.00 14 09 4 1 24 08 PDA North 01 NPL

3.00 03 03 0 0 07 00 PDA ECNL U15
3.00 03 03 0 0 10 00 PDA South 00 NPL
1.75 04 02 1 1 07 02 PDA North 00 NPL

Anonymous said...

PF has players from all over showing up right now. The competition for spots will be brutal.

Anonymous said...

1:07 - Interesting statistics, but do you have a point? Are Continental and Bucks ripe for wholesale roster changes, unless they have long-term development investments?

Anonymous said...

And let us all remember what a great keeper can do. If they can stop one or two shots in a match that makes all the difference these days.

Anonymous said...

Pda won't allow crush in, unless they needed to fill the very low brackets down in Bordentown. They are more faithful to the clubs that have played in the past, which crush never did.

Anonymous said...

Have to see how PF spins not being a DA.

Anonymous said...

12:54

What team does she compete with, smart guy?

Anonymous said...

Are you serious? PF definitely a contender for DA.

Anonymous said...

The girls from pa will be traveling to cedar stars if they are good enough for DA

In the know.

Anonymous said...

The Boys DA clubs will be getting girls DA teams. ECNL or not, will be meaningless. These are the clubs that took the risk when Boys DA was unproven and have shown the ability to run this program. Going to be a mass migration from PF to CFC next year. Some people are just ahead of the curve.

Anonymous said...

My understanding is that only 7 of the 80 ECNL clubs said Yes to DA. Very curious to see the final number and how many of them shoot themselves in the foot by saying No.

1:23 stats are there for you guys to determine what they mean. To me

PF U14 ECNL or 2002 team will need help as it is currently the weakest ECNL team so they will look to shake things up.

CFC & FC Bucks in trouble and will probably remain the same.

PA teams would not have changed if it wasn't for Birth year.

PDA in no trouble what so ever

MF in trouble big time -which only means you might see PDA players jumping ship

But you might see it a different way.

Anonymous said...

That would be great if only seven said yes, but how do you know this? Sounds like bullshit to me.

Anonymous said...

What the heck is cedar stars?

Anonymous said...

CFC lol. No one is ahead of the curve there. PF is a much stronger club all around. How many national players on the girls side are there from CFC compared to PF? Research it. Being ECNL now doesn't mean it won't end up a DA next year.

Anonymous said...

Stop drinking the PF Kool-aid lol

Anonymous said...

2:17

WHEN Continental gets a girls DA it will take all of PF's top players and pillage their coaching staff as well. Might want to check those rosters for central Penn girls who will be heading home to PA Classics as well. Not going to be much left of Penn Fusion.

Anonymous said...

2:13 radio - I think more though

Wasn't Spirit United partners with PF before they split for CFC? They must be doing some thing right?

2:17 CFC Delco is also a Boys DA in addition to ECNL

Anonymous said...

HOUSTON – Hope Solo has been guarding net for the U.S. Women’s National Team for a long time – for nearly the entire 21st century, in fact, having made her senior-team debut way back in 2000.

But she’s never seen the USWNT playing with the fluidity and mastery that they’ve shown in 2016. And the children – relatively speaking – are leading them.


Thank You ECNL - DA will keep up is in the promise land

Anonymous said...

Agree with 217 DA is about finding national and professional league players which PF has done for on the girls side more often than CFC, but if your looking for college players all PA ECNL teams have produced almost equal amounts this graduating year of 2016.

Anonymous said...

because almost all ecnl players wind up playing in college

Anonymous said...

If the DA runs their league like the training center last night, they will fail miserable. I know there is much stronger talent on our team and the coaches are much stronger.

Anonymous said...

How many games and tournaments did CFC win last season? Must be great training there.

Anonymous said...

You do realize PF only recruits talent , they don't develope it !

Anonymous said...

2:50

PF "finds" national team players alright, after they make the national team for another club. Recruiting vs. developing. Their top player right now, gator aid player of the year from n of Harrisburg, was national team while still at PA Classics. Think she would be at PF if PAC had a DA? Top clubs become top clubs by having top players on their rosters, no matter who truly develops those players. And if PAC & CFC get DA's they will immediately draw the top players(and coaches(see PAC's newest hire) in PA and PF will find itself on the outside looking in.

Anonymous said...

3:12. Tell that to the U17 WNT player who played whole soccer life penn fusion

Anonymous said...

3:19 is right. i would say that girl is their top player right now, all due respect to the gatorade player

Anonymous said...

Gatorade player was at LCD then Classics for "short time" before going to PF. Research before blogging.

Anonymous said...

3:19

Also an incredible player but if CFC was ECNL and PF wasn't, where do you think she would be playing today? It will be the same way in fall 2017 when CFC gets a DA and PF doesn't. The top talent will flock to CFC to play in the A league(DA) not the B league (ECNL). And the central PA girls now at PF will likely leave for PAC as well. It was only a few years ago when CFC(then FC Delco) was the far superior club to PF(then West Chester). But that's easy to forget now. Much like PF's current superior status will be forgotten. Things are going to change fast.

Anonymous said...

3:36

I don't need to research, my older daughter played with her. Yes she played for her dad on a LDC boys team, then played a year and a half for PA Classics where through ODP she was identified for the national team all BEFORE going to PF. You do realize you are helping me make my point right pal?

Anonymous said...

Seems like someone didn't make a team and dad pretty mad about it.

Anonymous said...

Enough with the PA talk, any word on players that stood out at regional Friendly's, heard NJ didn't represent well at all down there.

Anonymous said...

CFC better pray for a DA. They have nothing to offer now. Even if they do get a DA going there a year early will do nothing to help girls. Outside evaluators will determine talent, not the coaches from the club. You have to go where the training and talent is to stay on top of game. That's not CFC. They can't even win a game.

Anonymous said...

It's not always about winning . Do you really think colleges care ? Keep drinking that Kool-aid lol

Anonymous said...

It's official this has become an 02 board - I'm out going to u15 board and deal with all the IGFA and Slick comments that take up 90% of the posts whatever that means. Only a matter of time before I stop reading and posting my stupid results.

Anonymous said...

PF gets its pick of the top players in the region from DE up through Harrisburg and gets most of them into D1 programs. CFC gets the "leftovers" rarely from outside the Philly suburbs and gets most of their players into D1 programs. Who's got the better training staff? Will PF's staff be able show the same results when the tables are turned? We'll see in 2017 I guess.

BTW, what happens if the Philly Union also want a girls DA? What will be left for PF?

Anonymous said...

349 I don't think any 2001 NJ (ODP) went to friendlies in Virginia this past weekend. Only the 2002 and 2003 were sent. Who did they play ? Can you let me know. So I they did not go how can they be judged ? This is the u14 board not the u13

Anonymous said...

“NJ didn't represent well at all down there.”

Hahahahaha, that’s what I heard too.....

Anonymous said...

CFC has a U17 national team player on the Olympic qualifying roster of 35.
Yes, it's Jamaica, but I suppose that doesn't count.....

Also, there is a reason Spirit split from West Chester.
One side favored the players.
One side favored the coaching and development.
Enjoy those wins!

Anonymous said...

First Tournament Games - Feb 27/28

APC Premier Cup 2016- Girls U14 Premier
34.24 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)
33.59 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01 (VA)
33.58 LDC UNITED ATTACK (PAE)
32.32 PIPELINE BLACK (MD)
32.08 CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F (LAZARES) (PAE)
31.83 BETHESDA SC FORCE 01 (MD)

-------------------------------------------

2016 Ultimate Cup Girls U14 Ultimate I
34.15 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
32.49 NORTH UNION UNITED 01F WAVE (PAE)
31.90 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)
31.87 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)
31.34 VSA NPL ELITE 01 (VA)
00.00 RICHMOND UNITED U13 ECNL (VA)

Anonymous said...

Oh Boy, NY Cup K/O round of 16 live-draw is tonight, cannot wait. Hope we get to play some different teams, here are teams:

Asphalt Green Wave FC Arsenal
Atletico FC G 01.
FC Westchester FCWE 02 White
FCLI Alliance G01
Hauppauge Hotshotz
HBC SC Sparks
LaGrange SC Rage
Levittown SC Supersonics
Manhattan SC G01 Pride
Massapequa SC Lil Rowdies
New Hyde Park Wildcats SC Lady Jaguars
New Rochelle FC RT Premier
New York SC New York SC G01
Quickstrike FC QSFC Elite 02s
Ramapo Valley SC Tornados 02
SABA Brooklyn City

Anonymous said...

9:08 Can you make sure to have that list of teams placed on the "New Jersey Nobody Cares Blog"? It will given its due and discussed as soon as the bloggers are done discussing Chris Christie's new presidential election strategy.

Anonymous said...

That list of teams can be discussed with the NJ moms in the hotel lobby this weekend...
Don't forget your earplugs...

Anonymous said...

You guys don’t like my post, why? This is a U14G soccer blog, no? You are not with those teams, so you don’t respect them, is that it? The is very unfortunate, for you. As I read the various posts on here two things stand out:

1. everyone is a coward
2. everyone has a personal agenda

With those 2 components, this blog has consistently amused me from day 1. Its not so much that your stupid posts bother me, its that they are so uncreative, but I guess not everyone is gifted in that way.

Look, its news to all of the teams on the list, which includes my kid, so if you don’t like it, fuck-off.

Anonymous said...

2. everyone has a personal agenda

you think?

Anonymous said...

and everyone's a coward...hence the "anonymous" feature...

Anonymous said...

Its not so much that I care about any particular post, be at least try to entertain, be funny, be original.
We are all on the same journey, so let’s have some laughs while our little boat slowly sinks.

Life is short, and so are some girls on our team...

Anonymous said...

I will comment on the friendlies in Virginia this past weekend, which will be similar to a blog I posted a year ago. The four NJ teams that attended were compromised of girls from all over the state that don't normally practice together. Most know these friendlies are part of the evaluation process and the girls are put in positions they request but don't necessarily get to play in. They are far from the final roster that will be set in the spring.
With that said, the teams that the other states send are established teams that are not "trying out". I stayed in the same hotel as some parents from other states and the ODP elsewhere seems to be looked at differently than in the NJ area. My daughter has been through this before so we knew what to expect. The level of play on ODP teams in other states at U13 and 14 is very high. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Virginia all had ECNL players on their rosters. This was confirmed while speaking with other parents throughout the weekend. Not one ECNL player on our team or any of the others as far as my daughter knew.

Anonymous said...

So how did they do?

Anonymous said...

10:47
"compromised of girls..."...Freudian slip
My daughter's team sucked and this is why...

Anonymous said...

With respect to PA ODP teams, VA Friendlies was the first event that each "team" competed together after just a few training sessions following the final cuts, so I wouldn't characterize the teams as "established". True, the teams include ECNL girls, but also girls from F1 level clubs like PL, girls from so called "town teams", and perhaps even a few players who do not normally do much more than rec level play. In sum, a representative cross section of where the talent resides. A number of players opted not to attend the event for whatever personal reasons.

Anonymous said...

There were no "town or rec" level players on any of the other state lineups we saw. If you were there please add your two cents in as to what you saw from some of the other states.

Anonymous said...

As with the PA ODP teams, the VA ODP teams were not "established" teams, as the rosters were put together the week of the friendlies after several state ODP training sessions, and were changed up for Sunday's games. There were 2 full-time ECNL players among the three VA '02 teams.

Sounds like NJ is just making excuses.

Anonymous said...

It's official. US Soccer DA officially launching Fall 2017...

Club applications will be evaluated by U.S. Soccer technical staff based on the following criteria:

Leadership of the club and quality of the coaching staff
Desire to embrace and promote the core values of the program
U.S. Soccer license levels of coaching staff
Infrastructure of the club and the resources currently being invested in development (facilities, scholarships, staff to player ratio, etc.)
History of player production for Youth National Teams, the senior Women’s National Teams, and professional leagues
Market and depth of the player pool, geographic location and travel implications, and proximity to other elite clubs

Anonymous said...

NJ would be making excuses if their U15 to U18 teams were getting blown out. If anyone has results post them please. That's when it counts. When Jersey kids are playing in their pajama t-shirts and all the other states have real uniforms and matching bags I would say they are pretty much established teams.

Anonymous said...

12:19
Feel free to post your source
Thanks

Anonymous said...

Can someone post some results, it sounds like it was really bad showing,Mobutu only the no parents know.

Anonymous said...

Google works well.

Soccerwire

Anonymous said...

Seriously, you're judging whether a team is "established" by the uniforms they wear. All it takes is for ODP coaches to hand out uniforms Friday night to a bunch of players who had never even scrimmaged together as a team before?

Maybe this is how tourneys should seed teams from now on, by whether they have nice uniforms or are wearing "pajama tops".

Anonymous said...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/USSoccer-to-Launch-Girls-Development-Academy-Fall-2017

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