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Friday, October 17, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

Just make sure you have that CASH for those extra training session, hope IRS isn't watching this blog.

Anonymous said...

1:20 yes, it's the same parents who have been on 4 teams in 3 years.
they hate every coach and he is just their latest ex-coach .
It will be someone else's turn soon.
1:49 and 2:51 same thing.
Also remember there is an ex manager of wildcats team who is an ex-freehold coach who still harbors great hatred and bitterness towards wildcats and their coach.
He is now with one of the njsa teams and recent post alluding to wildcats doc and freehold club is probably him.
Amazing after 18 months after leaving team he is still obsessed.

Anonymous said...

Meow meow here kitty kitty did you lose to Second Tier Academy today?Here kitty kitty....

Anonymous said...

4:48 who is a second tier academy? Which academy are you talking about?

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Anonymous said...

that was the STA hater.
It seems every team, coach and club has their haters.

Anonymous said...

What was result of STA vs Wildcats in EDL today? Big game for both as both of those teams are contenders in that division.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats 2
STA 0

Anonymous said...

Yes 5:30pm it is only 12 year old girls soccer guys.
The level of hatred from some of you is abnormal.
You are obviously taking this way too personally.
It's really sick and disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it must be something in the water in NJ that makes these parents so crazy..

Anonymous said...

The common thread in all the negative posting on this site is the wildcats. They attack MF, NJX, PDA Force and now galaxy.

Every issue on this blog is Wildcats vs somebody.

Anonymous said...

What about Crush FC, any problems with them?

Anonymous said...

the Crush copter is circling as we speak!

Anonymous said...

what were the pre-ecnl and ne-npl results sat and today?

Anonymous said...

Can't wait to see that match up. Red card coach attacks the old guy in the chair during pregame warm ups thinking he's a soft touch, but the old guy surprises Red card by jumping up and smashing Red card over the head with his chair. Then he proceeds to burn Red card's left eye out with his cigar. Red card is rushed to a trauma center by the helicopter parents while the old guy gets signed by the WWE. That's entertainment!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for info. So besides MF and PDA. What are other options for u14 pre college club in area. Club to really help identify top talent next year for our girls.

Anonymous said...

Copa and NYSC & SJEB are excellent choices for college exposure. They are very solid Clubs, although the individual teams may suffer from lack of depth.

STA and NJ Crush are not very good clubs.


The PDA's and Match fits of the world have their own independent issues.






Anonymous said...

As a complete outsider who has witnessed both of these coaches in action multiple times and even had a conversation with one at a tournament, here is my opinion.
The older guy who coaches the Wildcats is a bit gruff and draws attention to himself with his cigar chomping, yelling, and chair.
The former NJ Force coach, aka P.T. Barnum is a complete narcissist.
I'm assuming he is the "red card" coach. He acts like a total fool on the bench. I've looked him up on social media based on someone's advice here and was shocked to fiend him interacting with players on that medium. Totally inappropriate in my opinion. If my kids coach was commenting on her instagram, there would be a big problem. No axe to grind with either guy, just calling it like I see it.
Neither team puts anything of quality on the field from a coaching perspective. Force team has never won a thing. Wildcats claim to fame is beating Storm once.
I'd rather watch a team like STA play than either of them.

Anonymous said...

You are a bit out of the loop my friend
Force coach is not red card coach and Force coach is not NJSA coach that posts are referring to

NJSA coach basically took the Force coaches players and formed his team that way.

I really don't get the Wildcat Coach attacks. Have seem him twice and although he is very vocal to his team during the game, so was our coach. Saw nothing out of the ordinary.

Anonymous said...

8:03- You think its "normal" that a coach participates regularly on this site?. Constantly trashes other teams, clubs, parents and former players.

Anonymous said...

I absolutely do not agree with bashing teams, coaches or individuals on this blog, but that seems to be what everyone does on this blog. I am just going by what I have seen in person. Truth is,
we don't really know who are behind these posts and probably never will, but the posts don't seem to match what I have seen, that is all I am saying.

Anonymous said...

This is an anonymous blog, and nothing on here can be taken seriously. Its really just a place to brag, or trash, depending on your mood. Its very similar to BOTN, but the responses are not real-time edited, although they can be deleted if found too negative, or personal. Its is what it is, a form of entertainment.

Anonymous said...

what happened with the EDP Open Cup Brackets? They were posted, now they are gone?

Anonymous said...

There are some very intelligent and insightful bloggers that bring a value to this site.

#2- Did a great job but had to go into hiding after being accused of being a PDA Shill, now posts anonymous

GS guy- Does an amazing job calculating GS points, rankings and breaking down big tournament brackets.

ECNL/NPL guy- constantly updates league standings and highlights good games each weekend.

The Wildcats are like the comics. The coach is cartoon character that barks, explains every loss as another bad break, and boasts about who they are playing as opposed to who they beat.

I am rooting for them to win NJ State Cup. That will be some great posts. My favorite were the EDP Champions. They were the only team that weren't a champion and were excited to play another July tournament in Hammonton.




Anonymous said...

@ 12:50

You want everyone to believe a couple township employees are enforcing a made up rule?...

Where on the Long Branch field use form does it note your alleged "violation".

Too funny :)

Anonymous said...

If you think real time editing prevents trashing teams, coaches and players, think again. Both is just as trashy as any other youth sports blog.

Cheap, low level form of entertainment based on the jersey shore reality TV theory that people love to watch others behaving horribly. It makes people feel better about themselves that at least they do not act like that.

The fact that is often at the expemse of children is disturbing. Even if the adults seem to bring it on themselves, leave the kids alone.

Anonymous said...

My guess on the EDP open cup is that teams got a look at the posted competition and saw that there are a few good teams there, but an easy tournament to advance in. So now there will probably be some late entries..ala PDA.

Anonymous said...

Yes, very inaccurate to assume you know who is responsible for each post on an anonymous blog.
There are people who come on blog just to play you and pose and insert themselves into a conversation to stir things up. That is how some of them get their yuks. But they are just pulling your chain.It makes them feel clever to fool someone and goad them into attacking someone they think is responsible.

Anonymous said...

9:57 stop trying to stir it up again.
Leave it alone so we can move on.

Anonymous said...

11:54 what are you basing your assessment on. Seems to me that it's your personal -edp based opinion.

Anonymous said...

well, 11:54 has one of those clubs right, and we all know which one, don’t we.

Anonymous said...

There will be plenty of openings at match fleece, very shortly. They already have 4 teams at this age group that are starting to crack. They only care about 1 team and they are up north. Northeast Npl will be a disaster next spring, not even the fall

Anonymous said...

Is there any chance the MF NPL team just leaves and goes back to NJX? That seems like it would make everyone happy. Did anyone on the team except the mommy coach want to merge with MF?

Anonymous said...

At 10:30.

Are you asking because you are from one of the two teams that I do not recommend?


-Soccer Nut-

Anonymous said...

3:09 what makes you think people are unhappy?

I know a few girls that play for NJX and they are happy currently. Looking forward to play on ECNL soon. Do you have any insight?

I would guess, strictly a guess here. Some players given an opportunity while others are not. I can see why some may be unhappy.

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Anonymous said...

Is it the few girls that dont have to show up for practice and play 95% or 100% of every game. Or is it the select girls that have open dialogue with the coach and the rest can go scratch. They should be the happy ones.

Anonymous said...

4:14 who are you talking about

Anonymous said...

EDP cup brackets and schedules are up
And look the same.

Anonymous said...

EDP Cup looks competitive, Calvert lucked-out to be in the B bracket. I think it will be Storm vs. Calvert, with Storm winning 3-1.

Anonymous said...

A rare chance to get a shot at PDA Storm in state. Would be shocked if they don't come out of there with a lot of GS points.

Anonymous said...

We are now back to an old topic and the answer remains the same. If you are a top player your best bet is PDA and MF. Proven track record here and the college coaches will come here first. Although many like to bash it is the truth. Not always the prettiest way but it is the best way. We have all established that to some degree... Then there are the next group of players. That is where your daughter needs to figure out where she fits in best. Then let it all play out......

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately for us parents it's a bit more complicated than that

-Soccer Nut-

Anonymous said...

Bethesda Alignments are out. Have fun.

Anonymous said...

can you list the brackets for bethesda top flight?
It is not yet up on their tournament website.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...


Generation Adidas Bethesda Tournament-Girls
11/14/2014-11/16/2014
Accepted Teams

409 Total:
Girls U9

Girls U10

Girls U11

Girls U12

Girls U13
Potomac
Blue Green
CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)
GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)

Chesapeake
Blue Green
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL (NJ)
VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)
1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
EMPIRE REVOLUTION ROCHESTER 01/02 (U12) (NYW)
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)
BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)

Patriot
Blue Green
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
WNY FLASH ACADEMY 2014 FLASH ACADEMY GU12 (NYW)
NJCSA GALAXY (NJ)
FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD)
FC UNITED U13G ACADEMY (IL)
RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
ISA 01 NPL (NYE)

Liberty
Blue Green
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
STARZ '01 (MD)
PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)
GPS-MA NPL (MA)
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (NYE)
BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U13 PRE-ECNL (VA)

Freedom
Blue Green
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
X-TREME SELECT SC X-TREME '01/02 SELECT - BLACK (ON)
SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE)
DC STODDERT BLUE METROS 01 (VA)
CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)
FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED (VA)
MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE (MD)

Atlantic
Blue Green
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK NORTH (NJ)
PA CREW U13G WHITE (PAW)
BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 WHITE (MD)
CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL (LAZARES) (PAE)
BEADLING SC BEADLING WHITE (PAW)
THUNDER SC FURIA ROJA (MD)
MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)
CLEVELAND UNITED SC CLEVELAND UNITED WHITE (ON)

Girls U14

Girls U15

Girls U16

Girls U17

Girls U19





10/6/2014 8:45:38 PM

Anonymous said...

Matchfit NPL is in second flight while Wildcats in first flight.?


I

Anonymous said...

As it should be

Anonymous said...

Idiots. MFU would never put both teams in the same flight. Just not going to happen. Too much to lose.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats have been looking for a top tournament to prove themselves in - have at it, and good luck.

Anonymous said...

Match Fit have no control or say! If they did their NPL U14 team would be attending

Anonymous said...

Maybe Wildcats will win a game at this tournament. If not, probably just using their subs in more meaningless games.

Anonymous said...

They absolutely can say where to flight their teams or request. You have no clue if you are going to sit here and say the DOCs do not have say or control where their teams are flighted.

Anonymous said...

WOW wildcats in top flight.....they are gonna get slaughtered. And what no PDA teams in Bethesda...I wanna see this PDA Shore Fusion play in a top tourney. So far they play EDP 2nd div central and pretty much kill every one. Storm and Ajax have proven to be good teams but I would like to fusion in some competitive tourneys besides the TRFC Labor Day.

Anonymous said...

You obviously have no clue, if the DOC has all this power. Then explain to me how he is able to move teams at U13, but when it comes to his team at U14 he was denied to be moved up to top flight and denied when asked to accept his NPL team

Anonymous said...

Wildcats bracket in WAGS Cup Flight this coming weekend just as tough as Bethesda.
Many of the same teams.
In addition to FC Virginia the #1 ranked Virginia team they play Lake Forest the #1 team from Illinois in bracket play.
Both are the pre-ecnl teams from those clubs.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget the 4th team in wildcats cup flight bracket at WAGS is Tri-State Elite the #1 team from ohio south.
I think that bracket is maybe tougher than what they will face at Bethesda.They will be playing the best competition out there in both tournaments.

Anonymous said...

I believe tri-State just beat PDA Storm 2-0 in chicago tournament last month.
They may just be the best U13 team out there at least east of the mississippi.

Anonymous said...

Nah-Tris State won one game at Eclipse tournament.

Got Soccer doesn't have them Playing PDA at Eclipse

Anonymous said...

Funny 10:08. How did you do against that powerhouse Medford team this past weekend? You're in that 2nd division for a reason. Enjoy it.

Anonymous said...

Mf npl in second bracket again, lol. If you would have stayed njx you would be in the top for sure. Only thing holding you back is your own club match fleece. Hows that amazing training going for your guys have you seen much improvement? 1 trainer for 40 players, and half of those players aren't even matchfit players and they get more attention. The funny part is the ones mf is paying attention are going to wildcats next year. Guess they wont be getting another entire team. About time someone uses mf. Laughing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous said...

Not sure what MF NPL is complaining about. MF trainers aren't magicians. This team has ignored technical training for years.

They are in the right bracket. They complain about unbalanced NPL league play yet they are going to finish 3rd or 4th in NPL this fall.

Anonymous said...

@4:45PM yesterday. I was talking about the EDP "OPEN" Cup. Brackets. Those were posted and then taken down.

Anonymous said...

No need to pick on or insult the mom coaching NJX-MF. She is a nice person but she is also managing from fear. Her kid is not an academy player. Her club does not fully support the MF deal. Most of the other players are not academy players. The MF leaders are milking her, the team and the club for money, fields and players. While doing so, the combined leadership of MF and NJX has not put this team in State Cup while asking them to play league games requiring a lot of travel. And lastly, some players get preferential treatment creating distrust and bitterness.

Nice person, yes. Qualified leader, no.

She should look to create a new team next year for her daughter and those who are not academy level players and stop selling the "let's play on Matchfits 4th team in the age group next year."

She's the same as the Freehold guy. Nice people but in way over their heads. But they do excel an protecting their own child.

Some people just love the logo.

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Anonymous said...

Watching these kids play on both the ECNL and NPL team, it is pretty clear to me that these teams when combined will be average in the ECNL league next year.

The issue is not the kids but the coaching and the training. What a waste !

hey are destined to be like every other Matchfit team within the club. Nothing more than a stopping point for those kids that cant make the PDA ECNL team in NJ and for those that dont want to play on the NPL team.

A few of the parents of the better players on both the NPL team and the ECNL team will smarten up after this year and make their way to PDA. The rest will be left to empty promises and their own parent's hubris that their child plays for an average ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

I give the Wildcats credit for always striving to be an Elite team without the PDA or MF backing. They do not shy away at playing the top tournaments or top teams.

There is always 1 or 2 teams every year per age group outside of these ECNL teams who compete at the highest level. Some age groups it's Copa, SJEB, Crush, STA or some other teams. At this age group right now it is the Wildcats. I agree they have a ways to go but every year more top girls will come from other dysfunctional teams to play for them. The core girls on this team will not leave this coach. They will be a force at this age group for many years.

Anonymous said...

Sold out twice, once by njx and a second time from match fleece. Brought $30000 to mf to guarantee a starting spot and playing time for precious. Reality is half of the team brought over to mf are at the wrong level. Nobody backs baby into a corner. It was a nice run, time to move on. Stopper/ sweeper can only cover so much ground.

Anonymous said...

I could see players from NJX joining Wildcats next year when they are not the ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

At this point I've seen the MF pre-ECNL, MF NPL, PDA pre-ECNL, and PDA South teams play. I'm from PA, and have no dog in this fight, but here are my opinions as an outsider.

The pre-ECNL teams and PDA South all appear to be coached to read the game, figure out the other team's weaknesses and then exploit them appropriately. The default is to build up from the back and play possession soccer, but when the opportunity arises, direct play and quick counterattacks should be used.

MF NPL played directly, and when that was ineffective, they played directly some more. And when that didn't work, they decided to play directly. Granted, this was back when they were still NJX, so maybe they have changed their philosophy. I also noticed that they played with a very short bench: not much subbing going on.

Playing against the pre-ECNL teams was an uneasy experience. I had the feeling that either team could score against us at any moment. They are dangerous squads. No lead feels safe against them, and when you are losing it feels like you have a mountain to climb.

PDA South seemed very much like a PDA B team. Played nice soccer but just didn't have the horses to carry the day. But they stuck with the plan and did not resort to kick and run when they got down.

PDA pre-ECNL did the best job in getting all their players adequate playing time. Easy to do as they appeared to have a deep team.

MF pre-ECNL and MF NPL did the worst job getting their subs in.

I did not notice how well PDA South did with getting everyone some minutes...which probably means they did a decent job with it.

Like many others, I'd rank these four teams:
PDA pre-ECNL
MF pre-ECNL
PDA South
MF NPL

Haven't seen Wildcats yet but hope to soon.

Anonymous said...

Don't knock NJX or MF for what they are trying to do. They are just emulating PDA. PDA has 3 of the top teams in NJ. PDA achieved this by having consistent training and coaching and a proven track record. No other club has gotten to this point. MF is just trying to get there with having 3 or 4 teams. Maybe it will work or maybe it won't.

Anonymous said...

Folks relax. This plays out all the time with ECNL and NPL at this age. The move was good for the 5-7 kids that will be on the ECNL team. If you think the current pre ECNL and the addition of these kids will not be a very strong team you are delusional. This is always the way it goes here. You can't blame the ones that don't make it for trying to make it and coming over to MF. The girls that do not make it to ECNL will either stay NPL or join a team like Wildcats. Wildcats are a strong team now but the enhanced ECNL teams next year will be at a completely different level. Again, this is proven year after year when the U14 ECNL teams are put together.....

Anonymous said...

Wonder what will happen to the bottom players on the ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

Next year all this will be irrelevant. Wildcats will not be on the same page as PDA ECNL-Storm and MF ECNL-top Jefferson players/top NJX players. PDA knows what they have. Lets see if MF knows what they have to create the team.

Anonymous said...

Win or lose, our daughters want to play at the highest level of competition out there. In truth every one of us on this sight have daughters who want the same as well. Playing the best level of competition is the best way to get there, obviously.
Always has been.
Some parents and coaches from other teams who kept saying wildcats were done and were being left behind by own their childs teams and other NJ teams in other leagues and would play 2nd tier comp have found out the reverse is true. Maybe, just maybe, you were wrong and they will be just fine while others will travel as far or farther and will not be playing nearly as many elite teams when you compare overall schedules at the end of the season. If they are competitive in their games this weekend at WAGS and at top flight in Bethesda next month great, but either way they will have tested themselves against the best and will come out better for the experiences.
Also they are 2-0 in their league and Calvert Crew has already lost to Pipeline while Wildcats just beat STA this weekend.
Of course you will continue to attack us and predict our demise. You have done that for 18 months and predicted we were going to get smoked,demolished ,etc every tournament when we were in top flight. In the meantime our girls are working very hard, getting better, and are extremely happy with each
And we couldn't be more proud of them.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats and Greater Binghamton the beneficiaries of increase in GS points.

Former second flight teams headed to top flight in MD mid November

Good luck.

Virginia FC and Cincy Cup Gold the class of that tourney's top flight but watch out for Match Fit pre ECNL.

Second flight appears to favor NEFC Elite

Anonymous said...

Mf has done nothing but absorb entire quality town teams. Take three or four to their Ecnl team and let 3,4 or 5 leave and then get a few of pdas players that are unhappy to fill the holes. The 3,4 or5 that leave mf will go to teams like the wildcats. A couple of the better girls from wildcats and better town teams will tryout for match fleece and fill in the empty bank account for a year. Its the circle of life. I mean the circle of nj youth soccer.

Anonymous said...

Holy crap.. it's not even Wildcat Wednesday and there are non-stop posts about the Wildcats. Give it a rest.

Anonymous said...

Kudos to the wildcats for consistently playing in the top brackets and doing pretty well. Goes to show you when your team is committed to getting better and developing as a team and individuals.

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Anonymous said...

reread 9:35.

Anonymous said...

hes 10:56 better worry about your own coach and your own daughters team.
We are doing just fine on our own thank you.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats? How have you gotten better than last year? Who have you beaten this year that you did not last year? It ends after this season. Do you not see that? The ECNL will be at a different level. You are a good team that will be good for girls that do not make ECNL. That is a good thing. But to think it will be at same level is just not true......

Anonymous said...

will njsa teams and wildcats please not start up again.
We understand there is some bad blood there from ex wildcats and ex force on both teams but let it rest.
Move forward with your current teams or start your own private blog.
some of the hatred displayed is ridiculous. If you are where you want to be then move forward and leave the past behind.
The personal attacks have no place on this blog. Let it go.

Anonymous said...

You really think the top few players on MF/NJX team are going to travel and train with MF ECNL team up north? Or train with NPL team and play ECNL matches? I do not see that happening. Either they move to PDA ECNL team or as another said on here, go to Wildcats. MF ECNL will be fine, but the NPL team is another story. Yes, the majority of the team may be happy, but are you going to be happy playing in the second flight of tournaments behind your ECNL team? Last year you played in top flights and did well. Now you have to wait and see what tournaments your big brother plays in before playing the best flight. Just a mistake going to MF.

Anonymous said...

Yes, they will make it work to form a very strong ECNL team. The NPL level will be same level as what Wildcats will be playing next year so that will be a decision the parents and girls will have to make on their own....

Anonymous said...

11:57 - Your assumption is that PDA ECNL will take these players. This is a very strong team deep team and if they do take them there is a lot of competition for minutes are you sure they can handle not starting and not playing the minutes they have played in the past - not all kids can roll with that and not miss a beat.

MF is taking a page right out of PDA's handbook. They will have their ECNL team play up North with an NPL team (Jaguars + wasn't Parsippany an okay NYCSL NPL team) that is going to be okay and compete with PDA North for players and in the South You PDA South and MF NPL fighting for players and both will travel with the ECNL teams.
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Anonymous said...

10:12 Like many others, I'd rank these four teams:
We will get an opportunity to see how these teams matchup against each other and against the same competition.

Both pre ECNL teams doing well - but EM looks like the team in the NE not Boston.
PDA pre-ECNL
MF pre-ECNL

Both these teams will play each twice in addition to the other PDA North - the other team. All the have done is matched the others blow for blow in NPL. The tied MF NPL and had similar results to PDA South. They will also play twice. I wouldn't put them as a top 5. But a 1-0 loss to WC Pre-ECNL and a 0-0 draw vs MF NPL tells me this team can ball.

PDA South
MF NPL

I would agree with your top 5 in NJ
PDA/MF pre-ECNL, PDA South, MF NPL and NJ Wildcats

I think PDA North, STA and NJ Crush would be my next 3 followed by NJCSA GALAXY & TSF to round off a pretty solid top 10 for NJ.

NJ's top 10 much deeper than most if not all the states on the East coast.

Anonymous said...

Yes, NJ soccer clearly the best on Earth.

What’s next Mars?

Anonymous said...

yeah FCC, yeah you know me, yo FCC, you know me...

Anonymous said...

12:26 prove me wrong - what other state has a deep top 10?

Oh I forgot ranking teams and making lists is so yesterday.

CAS & CAN are the best on earth - NJ is best on East Coast.

Wait you think PAE is better don't you?

Come on give me any state on the east coast that has a deeper top 10?

if you like GS

NJ#10 = 114 (and this doesn't include MF PreECNL and PDA North)

NYE#10 = 171
PAE#10=179
MA#10 = 181

Anonymous said...

12:24 Are you using U12 results? Can't be based on U13.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the man is trying to keep you down!

Anonymous said...

I am the all-powerful Oz, I control everything, even girls youth soccer...and yes I am trying to keep you down, actually I am trying to prevent you from writing anything positive.

Anonymous said...

Yes, New Jersey has some solid teams, you want a medal? How about going out and winning a medal this weekend at EDP Cup or Wags?

Anonymous said...

PDA Shore is weak, as could be expected first season. See if the PDA platform can move this team into higher brackets and not lose to Thistle and Medford. They now have EDP Open Cup to contend with soon and not sure where they are playing this weekend if at all, dont see them at EDP Cup or WAGS - are they taking a break or something this weekend? Remember they took an existing very good TRFC team and sprinkled in some new players, but think about it, is that how you form a high level team?

Anonymous said...

Hey 7:00 AM I have no idea how it felt to lose 2-0 this weekend as my child doesn't play for the team you are referring to. Just stating I would like to see that program/team play in more competitive tourneys than the TRFC cup and Kirkwood. That program is just a bunch of glorified town travel teams where they overcharge so you can say I play for...

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't say a very good existing team.....a little above average yes. The only way they were gonna get players was through the agreement, nobody wants to play for them anymore either.

Anonymous said...

They are in Kirkwood this weekend....nobody goes there anymore, do they?

Anonymous said...

I have no problem with the rankings posts. And I also have no problem saying that NJ has a better top 10 than PAE:

For the record, my top 10 PAE:

Penn Legacy
Penn Fusion
PA Classics
1776
YMS
FC Revolution
HMMS
Rage
Ukrainians
LVU

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

Win at EDP cup.. didn't you read? The winner is already decided.
All the other teams should stay home.

Anonymous said...

Really, seems like Fusion are hiding. Even town teams are doing EDP Cup and other higher level. very interesting.
well the team was ok, certainly not a lower level team. PDA should keep it going I believe with the name alone. Many good talent in that area.

Anonymous said...

I am confused here.

MF ECNL team that we played is very talented team, I see that they are doing very well currently within the ECNL division. As an outsider why would MF consider moving this team? The game vs our team, I believe they had 15 players o bench, I thought the 11 starters were very good. Striker plus 2 wings, Mid field and CBs were all very strong. Plus I recognized 4 of those players at the USA Training Center so these players where recognized by outside coaches as well, please explain this whole NPL\ECNL at MF.

Anonymous said...

1257 has been "PDA-tized".

Anonymous said...

12:38 not u12 results - I can't believe you made me post these results to prove my point.

U13 NPL Results compare PDA North, PDA South and MF vs same teams

PDA North 4-3 vs Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
PDA South 1-0 vs Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
Match Fit NPL 1-1 vs Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL

PDA North 6-1 vs FC Bucks 01 NPL
PDA South 5-0 vs FC Bucks 01 NPL
Match Fit NPL 5-0 vs vs FC Bucks 01 NPL

PDA North 4-3 vs World Class FC 01 NPL
PDA South 3-1 vs World Class FC 01 NPL

PDA North – W 3 – GD +7
PDA South – W 3 - GD +8
Match Fit NPL – W 1 – T – 1 – GD 5+

Looks about the same to me

Plus head 2 head
Match Fit NPL 0-0 PDA North

PDA North vs MF NPL results compare

Match Fit NPL 4-0 vs Albertson SC 01 NPL
PDA North 5-0 vs Albertson SC 01 NPL

Match Fit NPL 4-0 vs Continental FC 01 NPL
PDA North 3-0 vs Continental FC 01 NPL

Match Fit NPL 6-1 vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL
PDA North 3-0 vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL

Match Fit NPL 5-0 vs Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL
PDA North 5-2 vs Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL

Match Fit NPL – W 4 – GD +18
PDA North – W 4 – GD +16

Also looks about the same. PDA North never did get much love on this board - but they are putting up similar number to PDA South and MF NPL that much is a fact.

Like I said result compare is not that far off – I wouldn’t put them in top 5 but not far from it either if MF NPL and PDA South are in top 5 – throw in the PDA North 1-0 loss to WC pre-ECNL team some can argue they should be at u13.

Anonymous said...

Correcting my my math for PDA North GD not +16 should be +14

Anonymous said...

!:44/1:41- Thats how you support an opinion. Very impressive. Thank for taking the time

Anonymous said...

Thanks, 1:41. Nice post.

So is it fair to say that in the NPL

Top tier is
PDA North, MF NPL, PDA South

Next
World Class, Penn Fusion

Bottom
Albertson, MA teams, PA teams besides PF

Unknown
CT teams

Anonymous said...

wildcats

Anonymous said...

2:03 I think PDA South and MF NPL for sure and I think PDA North based on results is saying they belong mixed in with the two. Again these are just results - but they are league results that sends it's champion to a National Event a little different than playing a tournament for a "medal".

PennFusion can hang for sure - are they dual rostering pre-ecnl players? This team's results are way different than compared to their u12 results. Probably had a face lift as well. PA guy can speak to this much better than google can.

World Class played the 2 PDA teams and lost both with a GD of -3 - that isn't to bad. So based on results I think you are right with your 2nd tier.

We will find out more about the CT teams in October and where they belong so yes a big unknown for now. If ConnFC uses their 2014 Spring EDP (2nd Division) team they look like they will contend for a Post season spot. FSA is a mystery Soccer+ merger they have a large player pool I would imagine - might take them a little while to get on the same page might also contend. Not sure if we have any CT posters than can add something to this.

Albertson, ConDelco and FC Bucks probably on the bottom. the MA teams can turn things around with some good results in October and maybe join the 2nd tier, both have large player pools, you never know what the Spring brings.

Anonymous said...

Looking at the NYCSL NPL

STA NPL-01 & NJ Crush FC NPL-01 both using EDP to get their NJYSA cards so they can play state cup at the the same time try some different things in a league that has some good teams with nothing on the line but GS points. These teams will move up the GS charts as they get Fall EDP and NYCSL NPL points in addition to their tournaments.

I think they are both in the top tier with New York Soccer Club NPL-01 who bolted from the EDL and Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01

The 2nd tier is Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01
& Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01

While Quickstrike FC NPL-01 & New York Rush NPL-01 round out the league.

Anonymous said...

New England NPL

NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS clearly the dominant force in the league. While I think SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 & OAKWOOD SC belong in the top tier. while YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE & BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 are 2nd tier. AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK, SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G & GPS-MA NPL round out the league.

Anonymous said...

wildcats

Anonymous said...

So looking at the 3 NPLs I just posted some comments on have some very solid teams in their top tier that will battle for a spot in Indiana at the nationals.

MF NPL, PDA South & PDA North
NYSC, STA, NJ Crush & ISA
NEFC, Oakwood & Seacoast


EDL will join in the fun come Spring, what teams are in the top tier, your guess is as good as mine - based on their outdated club list - I would say NJ Wildcats for sure are the favorites. I thought LVU might be a player, but their EDP results tell a different story. TSF is not a bad team but I think NJ Wildcats can handle them, the rest are EDP 2nd Division teams - I don't see any of them making a run yet, will some add some players who knows. ALso, who did EDL replace NYSC and Manhattan with if Any? Calvert, Pipeline, NJCSA, Parsippany???

Virginia NPL is a big question mark for me as I have to get familiar with all these teams. I know we had a VA poster on here once, not sure if they are still around and can shed any light on these teams.

EDP & PAGS sorry guys - I'm sure you have some great games vs some great teams - but at the end of the day you win the league and you win a medal - you don't advance any further. I don't like following leagues like that they are a dime a dozen.

Region I Champions League (RCL) - Division 1 is also a big question mark - is this replacing the Premier/Colonial/Northeast Leagues this Spring? They will be using Pro/Rel which is interesting.

Anonymous said...

Ecnl vs. Npl very big gap in quality of teams.

Anonymous said...

PDA North, isn't that World Class, hahaha!

Anonymous said...

I disagree, NPL is just as competitive, it's all good.

Anonymous said...

There are 2-3 NPL teams that could compete in the ECNL and there are several ECNL teams that would be better served in NPL, but the ECNL is clearly higher level. It is designed that way. Not even worth the discussion.

Anonymous said...

Not worth a discussion? You sound like my Mom, when I was 15! Everything rational discussion has some form of worth, perhaps not to you, but ultimately an opinion-based statement cannot by itself be of no worth. You dig me?

Anonymous said...

Yes, yes, I know, you’re Kung Fu is strong, but my Kung Fu is strong too, and I have the element of surprise, little one.

Anonymous said...

Calvert Crew is already in EDL this fall.

Anonymous said...

Obviously top NPL teams can't compete with ECNL or they wouldn't be the NPL team in their club. None of the NPL teams can beat their own clubs ECNL.

Anonymous said...

You are fishing, keep fishing FisherKing.

Anonymous said...

4:11 Just going by google. Calvert Crew is in EDP.

EDL can be found at the below link:http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/easterndevleague/index_E.html

Last spring EDP crossover games counted as EDL NPL games.

Of course the teams in the league no better than us - Since EDP or EDL or MAPS or MSSL - well let's just say their website is a little outdated.

I do agree Pre-ECNL is tops no doubt - but I also agree with each NPL having a few teams that can hang and even win against the lower level ECNL teams 80% of the time.

The NPL finals will have 15 strong u13 teams. Some of which are Pre-ECNL teams from out west.

Anonymous said...

Good Lord - why are they posting results vs FC Bucks NPL, World Class NPL and Albertson NPL as if they have any meaning?

Those are not the strongest of teams.....

Anonymous said...

4:24 is correct.. EDL isn't until Spring.

Here is the schedule/results from this past spring.

http://npleastern.demosphere.com/schedules/2014/66131451.html

Anonymous said...

So PDA Storm became PDA Shore in the EDP Cup? I thought Storm was listed in a previous release or am I mistaken?

Anonymous said...

Nope.. Storm is in EDP Cup not Shore.

Anonymous said...

4:40 you are probably confusing EDP Cup with EDP Open Cup.

2 different events.

EDP Cup is this coming weekend in Hammonton

EDP Open Cup occurs between now and May. It is played over time like the State Cup.

Anonymous said...

....while other top teams are playing STALWARTS in friendlies.....

But they're NOT chasing points, all. It's about DEVELOPMENT

Anonymous said...

PDA shore u13 is playing in Kirkwood not EDP cup. PDA STORM is playing in EDP cup. Got it.

Anonymous said...

PDA a oldest soccer pyramid scheme in NJ soccer. LOL

Anonymous said...

PDA's North and South NPL teams are not considered as strong as Storm. But they are not that far behind. The 2 NPL teams would compete well with the Pre-ECNL teams and would most likely end up middle of the pack.

Anonymous said...

How is PDA a pyramid scheme? No one is promised to be on any team and yet they always put out a great product.

Anonymous said...

EDP OPEN CUP brackets released again... THOUGHTS???
https://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=40107&GroupID=398570&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Anonymous said...

How can they be playing friendlies if PDA Storm is in EDP Cup this weekend?
Oh you must be the matchfit koolaid drinking guy from NJX.

Anonymous said...

PDA South > North NPL

Not close

Anonymous said...

Yes -Matchfit will win it all.

Calvert Crew has outside chance

Anonymous said...

What are you smoking 9:36. Obviously not from a PDA parent.

Anonymous said...

4:57 nailed it.

Anonymous said...

No one is chasing points these days.
major leagues all get GS point - major tournaments all get GS points.

GS not going away eventually will determine the flight your kid's team plays in.

PS. It's always about development -but at some point you have to start playing the game to get a result and stop hiding behind the word "development".

Anonymous said...

8:16- LOL, thats funny.

Anonymous said...

Calvert Crew will win what? EDP Fall League - don't think so - NJ Wildcats will - Calvert Crew will win EDP Cup,maybe group but will get smoked in the final or they will earn some respect (PS. The Girls all earned respect, talking about the team as if they were a NWSL team even though they are u13)

The below results tell me this team is not as strong as people think.

PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 1-2
JPS FLASH (NJ) 1-0
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 2-0
NJSCA GALAXY (NJ) 2-0
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 1-0

Also the reason FC Bucks and others were used to compare teams - is because those are the teams all 3 teams played, you know apples to apples no one said they were the best in the league.

Anonymous said...

Lol. Columbus day weekend is the biggest tournament weekend. Teams know where they are playing in August. For PDA to sneak into EDP cup AFTER brackets were published is nothing but point chasing.

Anonymous said...

8:28 Agreed. Calvert Crew a good team, but not a top team like they were at younger ages.

That EDP central will be a very balanced schedule. 1 and 2 goal differentials for most of the games.

Anonymous said...

Can somebody explain NJCSA Elite vs NJCSA Galaxy. Is one an A team and the other a B team?
What teams merged to form each team?

Anonymous said...

8:41

If you look at PDA Storm's schedule, They have been off for quite some time. Possibility a tune up before they begin up again next week. ?


Lotsa gaps in those ECNL schedules

Anonymous said...

yeah, possible tune-up. The number one club in the universe didn't have anything planned for Columbus day weekend. STFU.

Anonymous said...

One is Elite, and the other is Galaxy

Anonymous said...

Calvert was B flighted a couple of times - Jeff Cup an example - and then lost 2 tournament finals in the spring

Firs was to World Class pre ECNL (Charlton), second to their local rival Harford.

Still a very very dangerous team

2-1 loss to FSA in spring EDP Cup cpuld also be seen as a final, as theyd have won the tourney if that went the other way.

Was in that weird three way tie at Spirit and didnt move on after 2 1-1 ties (same as Wildcats)

Take Calvert lightly at your own risk

Anonymous said...

@9;22

Why would you think that PDA needs the points?

They are already in top flights of every major tournament in the country.Points are not needed for this club to enter top flights. And they showcase their older teams in the ECNL?

What would be the reason for the point grab?

Anonymous said...

ego

Anonymous said...

9;54

This the team thats gets blasted for not entering very many tournaments:

And now its ego.


You really have to do better than that.


Anonymous said...

Cherry picking a tournament after brackets are published is total BS. It's not like Columbus day was a surprise this year.

Anonymous said...

this is the team that says EDP competition is inferior.
You have to do better than that.

Anonymous said...

It is a little odd that at their level they would be going into EDP cup rather than a highly competitive tournament against top national talent.

Doesn't seem they are getting much diversity or high level competition with the ECNL games as have been posted.

It's a contradiction to boast about how ECNL is the best but enter an EDP cup . Isn't that beneath the almighty PDA

Anonymous said...

^^^what he said

Anonymous said...

It seems like more laziness on the part of the coaching staff more than anything else.

I wouldn't think anything more of it then it was the closes tournament to get some games in.

They probably don't want to travel.

Anonymous said...

yes, lazy coaches. Didn't know that there would be a break in the schedule on Columbus day weekend.

Anonymous said...

"It's a contradiction to boast about how ECNL is the best but enter an EDP cup . Isn't that beneath the almighty PDA"


Club looks darn good to me : life is full contradictions.

Ain't that bitch.

Anonymous said...

If they are so dam good than have them compete outside of NJ

a very recent post just said that ECNL gets them into top flights of tournaments and this is what PDA chooses to enter! LOL

Lazy coaches?? For the money shelled out to that academy how can anyone make that statement like it is no big deal that they are basically taking the easy way out and jumping into a tournament that you and others have ridiculed.

Life is full of contradictions, starting with YOU!!!

Anonymous said...

::golfclap::

Anonymous said...

Calvert Crew is very strong still.
They came up on a team bus and played 4 of their nj EDP league opponents on the same weekend 2 games saturday and 2 games sunday. Not surprised the games were pretty close.
They got the 4 wins they came for.
1-2 league result to pipeline may mean pipeline better than they were last spring.

Anonymous said...

10:56, are you a Calvert parent?

Anonymous said...

EDP Open Cup predictions first round= NJCSA beats MF blue. Flash beat MF. Copa, SJEB, Real Shore and Medford win first round. see if correct possibly.... mark it down. PDA Shore playing Real Shore, I think that group loses to Real Shore. And BOCA will lose to SJEB, just too good of a team for BOCA, but BOCA may have slight chance. In this open cup high ranked teams will show weakness and lower ranked teams have chances ie. Medford, BOCA, Real Shore.

Anonymous said...

What's up with December games for the EDP Open Cup. I hope they get in gear and these games are played early.

Anonymous said...

10:55

I will let management know what a disappointment they are to you. I'm sure they will be heart broken

I will also let them Know that a Chicago trip , and trips planned way outside the state in near future, just aren't enough.

Why are you so quick to put down the EDP teams?

Looks like some very good teams in this group.

Are you an ECNL snob?

I'm not- There are Great teams inside and outside the ECNL.

Please tell us what is the issue with a team playing in a home town tournment







Anonymous said...

the last minute entry after the brackets were published is an issue. It's called Cherry Picking points.

Anonymous said...

They are bringing more points than anyone else. The other teams should be grateful. I know if my daughters team were playing in it I would be happy. Bring the points and a chance to play them? I am there. WTF is with this blog?

Anonymous said...

Points?

Anonymous said...

and the fact that you run your mouth about how great everything is at "your level" is an issue

the second PDA goes into what we all along have known is good competition your viewed jumps from "watered down State cups, and meaningless development leagues" to "are you an ECNL hater" and "what's wrong with a home town tournament"

The issue is your pompous attitude and how you bend everything to make it sound OK for PDA but not for others.

Looking forward to your "out of state" results

Anonymous said...

11:23

Why does PDA need points?

They don't need it for top bracketing.

Yep sounds like a good way of just getting the work in against some very good teams .

Nothing more , Nothing less.

Anonymous said...

11:35

You seem Angry

It's just a simple tournament- with some very good competition.

Perhaps you would like to talk about it.

Anonymous said...

no need

Anonymous said...

I think we all have the PDA nonsense down

Anonymous said...

I think there is a term for it, it is called PDNV.

Anonymous said...

Great- Perhaps we can move on.

Anonymous said...

11:45, Very clever.

Anonymous said...

You are all overlooking to classic rematch to be played Sunday

PDA was denied a regional title last season by ATLETICO

Its also overlooked that the three games in bracket are vs class competition - STA #1 team, FSA #1 team and Atletico, curently #3 in NYE and slayers of the mighty East Meadow, not once but twice

4th game should be against Calvert.

PDA in the tougher half by far, if you are wondering

Anonymous said...

Nope nobody's wondering

Anonymous said...

Who is MFA/NJX playing? They are plummeting in the rankings. They have not won or been top level in any tournaments. They are not playing State Cup and they are not playing EDP Cup. What? They are giving their players time to play middle school soccer? Who is running the show over there?

Anonymous said...

I think you guys are looking to much into this.

Teams use tournaments for different things and that's okay.

PDA Storm might get their share of 10,000 GS points for Fall and Spring or just 2014/2015 season. They may not need the points to get into flights but they will still accumulate them.

I've been posting scores for a month now. The team played 3 league games and 1 tournament in Chicago this season. If they wanted to get some games in who cares when they applied - If anything they are giving some local teams a chance to play them before they start what looks to be be a busy October and November with a trip to MA on the schedule.

By just using Google this PDA team looks like they are playing games with an overnight stay this season in the below states maybe more who knows.

IL
MA
CT
SC

And you are giving them grief for wanting to stay at a local event. Yes, they probably saw the EDP cup teams and said hey that's not a bad local tournament let's do it.

PS. I also agree about Calvert I think they are a nice team, but I wouldn't make them elite - and elite team doesn't have that many low scoring games against teams not at their level. Look at MFNPL, PDA South and PDA North they are beating up teams not at their level with an occasional slip. Every game Calvert has played has been low scoring, so going by your 2 game theory - they also do very bad in Tournaments - I will check that one out. Good point

Anonymous said...

NJX is playing games this weekend that do not award points

Anonymous said...

12:11

Dont take yourself too seriously

If you have PDA Dragons on a higher level than Calvert you need to adjust your ranking technique

Anonymous said...

Make what you want of this Calvert days they played 2 games.

Not an elite team or EDP much stronger than people give it credit (go NJ)?

vs EDP
9/14/2014 W2, GF3, GA0
9/13/2014 W2, GF3, GA0

Vs Top teams
8/23/2014 T2, GF2, GA2
5/25/2014 T1, L1, GF6, GA7
5/11/2014 W1, L1, GF3, GA3

vs Easy teams
5/24/2014 W2, GF10, GA3
5/10/2014 W2, GF8, GA1

Anonymous said...

12:11 is PDA guy taking a softer approach

Anonymous said...

The directors of the EDP Open Cup may want to take a second look at their brackets. They've got a first round match up in the K South game between two byes. Which means that NJ Rush Hamilton will get a bye in the first two rounds sending them straight to quarter finals in March without playing anyone at all. Why do this when there are matchups between two actual teams elsewhere in the South half of the tournament? Could they just pull Boca or SJEB down to the open game and give them both byes in the first round so that everyone at least has a second round game to play? Have they never organized a tournament before? Don't they have templates for this type of thing? Dumb.

Anonymous said...

12:20 just looking at results.

Calvert tied NJ Wildcats 1-1
PDA Dragons lost 1-0 (at u12)
Look the same? NO?

PDA North or Dragons killing easy teams.
Calvert struggling to score goals against easy teams.

Maybe you a right - but the results tell a different story.

Anonymous said...

FSA beats PDA and Atletico. Heard it here first.

Anonymous said...

Calvert beat an outstanding Crew Juniors Team from Ohio to win bracket at jeff cup in march and then beat GSA Gol from Georgia in final to win flight.
they tied 1-1 vs both Penn Legacy and Wildcats in recent spirit tourney to tie for 1st place with both and lost in shootout, then Penn Legacy went on to hammer strong Penn Fusion team 5-1 in semifinal. I would say Calvert is in conversation among elite teams.

Anonymous said...

12:23 PDA guy or not - Can it happen that way? or should they also go to VA and MD in the fall as well - Geez we can the talk about how it costs 10k to play u13 soccer right?

Anonymous said...

They just lost to pipeline - 1 game 1 day

PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 1-2

Anonymous said...

They beat the below team by a lot

JPS FLASH (NJ) 1-0
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 1-0

Anonymous said...

Calvert a top team. Quit trying to make a case otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Who cares who Calvert beat. There will be different teams at this tournament. They aren't going to roll over and give Calvert a win and Calvert isn't going to roll over either. Let them play the games. Isn't that what a tournament is about?

Anonymous said...

edp cup tourney this Saturday looks like rain. will give lesser teams advantage. of course the tanks will get stuck in the mud, the machine guns will be sloppy shooting at net with wet fields and balls. and defensive positions will falter due to slippery ball, hence keepers will be in hell.
Patton beat the Panzer divisions using same advantage back in day. history does repeat itself.

Anonymous said...

I know it has been discussed here. Does your club prohibit coaches from privately training their players outside of the team in any way?

Anonymous said...

12:25

Aint no maybe about it.

Look at PDA Dragons entire Gotsoccer game list

Then look at Calvert

and yes, equating 1-1 tie with a 1-0 loss is quite silly.

Anonymous said...

Come on, are we really on this topic again? Can we not? If your coach trains privately and you don't like it, leave. Or deal with it. Or get some training. But if your daughter isn't getting the playing time you think she deserves, it's very possibly not because of whether or not she get's private training. Please can we just move on to more tournament talk?

Second flight of EDP not half bad either...someone please discuss.

Anonymous said...

MF NPL playing WC and FC Stars on Saturday. Some good competition.

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