And I care what you say why?
http://supery.uslsoccer.com/schedules/2014/67087319.htmlLooks like Rage and Parsippany are.
If you are not from ajax how can you make comment about todays game?Both teams parents were very well behaved today.You are just the same old troll 8:00 and 9:05.
Wasn't about today's game. It was a general statement from what I have experienced first hand .
9:08 Ty .... For super y link
9:08 That's Rage from PA
9:17 the parents you had a problem with have moved on.
That a boy. Throw people who left under the bus. Very classy.
Saturday, May 31, 2014CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE 3-0 SDFC SAMBANJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 1-0 NEW YORK SC G01Sunday, June 01, 2014CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE 3-2 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACKALBERTSON FURY '01 RED 1-3 WORLD CLASS FCMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK 2-0 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMISaturday, May 31, 2014RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 2-1 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACASunday, June 01, 2014PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJ 0-2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASLTuesday, June 03, 2014HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC 2-0 NJ FORCE ACADEMYIMPERIALS
Ok wildcats, I dont care if you win every game, at this age group. Most of your players have no skill and they have very little chance of making a technical team team at u14.They will have no chance of making an ecnl team that demands on the ground possession and movement of the ball.Enjoy your" hit the hole" & headers and set plays, In two years you will be just like your older teams.Mediocre at best...what's that you say, Your team will be different then your current older teams? Not a chance. You will continue to lose those players that want more and you'll be stuck with the same old teams that have preceded your team time and time again.Nothing special, just short cuts. And looking for those GOT Soccer points.A few of course will make it out but they will be the best of the bunch and they will make it
Crush, NYSC & NJX very quiet lately. Wonder why....hmmm
Funny wildcats win their next game against PDA ,we hear about every play. storm beats NJX and its
That's because storm parents aren't on here bragging like some other clowns.
i feel sorry for the wildcats. They really think their kick and run team is different than their older teamsu13 ranked 14 in state and play in low brackets in major tournamentsu14 ranked 53 in state and play in low brackets in major tournamentsHighschool teams play in the lowest bracket of major tournaments.
There's another EDP score from today that is not yet posted on their site.Crush played two. Lost to MF as reported above. Played that one without a break after beating CFC West Orange 1-0.
And here's my GUESS (please note this is a guess) as to how the EDP league will end up.East Meadow and WC will play on 6/8 with the winner taking the league. The loser will finish 2nd.Crush will need 3 points against Albertson and will do so to finish 3rd.CFC will take 4th spot followed by MF in 5th.NYSC 6th, Albertson 7th and SDFC has already locked down 8th place.
Are the wildcats the only team so focused on winning EDP and not developing and exploring new things. Seems like they are missing what this league stands for. EDP blew it when they decided to use Gotsoccer points.
@701.....Could not have said it better myself. EDP regular season means so little to the top quality teams (hint: NJX, PDA teams).
I will stick up for Wildcats. They are in EDP NPL or EDLP NPL what ever it is called these days. They don't need tournaments. They should do well in their League, win the league and advance to the NPL Finals. They will get exposure for their kids that want to stay and for those really good enough that want to continue playing they have their W-League team (D2).PS. I think EDP got it right going with Gotsoccer, it will attract top teams looking to win and better their tournament chances down the road for the NON-ECNL / NON-NPL teams this is needed like it or not.
7:32 hint NJX and PDA don't need gotsoccer points because they are ECNL and or NPL teams. They will play in their leagues with a chance to play in the ECNL Playoff or the NPL Finals.Got soccer is important to Rage, Calvert, SDFC & IGFA to name a few. These teams don't play in a league that send them to a National so they need to apply for Region 1 - Region 1 will look at how they do in tournaments and leagues. Gotsoccer makes it easy for the people of Region 1 to make a decision on acceptance.Come on guys it's not always black and white - there are always shades of gray.
7:32I can live with that but it's only u12....you so do not need the points right now. Every year the points are dropped anyway if you do not win the event. These EDP teams, regardless of points, will most likely, not be in the top flights of tournaments anyway. In a couple of years, it will be nothing but showcases friends. No real brackets.
GFA is affiliated with Valkyries and that's where they will be going. Not familiar with Calverts situation. Rage, I have no idea how they will survive. EDP/Region 1 maybe. NJX is about done. SDFC needs a vision. Things are going to be very interesting come next year.
Rage will not survive. Losing 7-9 players will be disastrous for the team. You can not replace that many skilled players, I'm assuming skilled. I wish them luck though.
Fast forward to next year for the NPL Clubs this is what you have to look forward to - every game counts to determine who represents your league at the NPL FinalsNPL Northeast Girls League 2013-201418 games played (Fall & Spring)PTS 45 PDA NPL 44 Connecticut FC NPL 42 FC Stars of Mass NPL 29 Match Fit Academy NPL24 World Class FC NPL 21 Penn Fusion WCUSC NPL 19 Boston Breakers Academy NPL 17 Albertson SC NPL 16 FC Bucks NPL0 SoccerPlus Elite PlayoffsMatch Fit Academy vs PDAConnecticut FC vs FC Stars of Mass==================================Eastern Development League 2014Flight A (5 games)13 FC Copa Academy 13 New York SC 9 Manhattan SC 6 TSF Academy 133 Smithtown Kickers SC 0 Jersey United Spartans Flight B (4 games)8 South Jersey Elite Barons 7 New Jersey Rush 5 Lehigh Valley United 5 NJ Wildcats 1 NJ Stallions Academy PlayoffFC Copa Academy vs South Jersey Elite Barons================================The New York Club Soccer League 2013-2014My guess is the team with the most pointsQualifies for the 2014 NPL FinalsCouldn't find how they determine their championTable or Post season.45 NEFC NPL (17)43 Mass Premier Soccer NPL (16)40 STA NPL (16)28 ISA NPL (16)27 NJ Crush NPL (16)27 Yankee United NPL (16)25 Oakwood NPL (16)26 NY Rush NPL (15)25 Massapequa NPL (16)17 Aztec NPL (15)15 Seacoast NPL (15)11 NJSA 04 NPL (16)11 Brentwood NPL (15)4 Parsippany NPL (16)0 HBC NPL (17)
Buck up, non Gotsoccer guy from Matchfit. We all know your GS rank doesn't tell your tale. Don't kill the entire system. In time you will have your points
So both MF and Storm changed coaches going into next season?
7:45 Is the Valkyries team that is listed in Super Y IGFA under another name, or is this a new team?
Crush are seeking a 3-way tie in EDP NorthNeeds World Clss to top East Meadow, then has to defeat Albertson and World Class to finish upE Meadow, World and Crush would all be 5-1-1
Crush JUST has to defeat Wold Class and East Meadow? the 2 best teams in the bracket.Is that all?
Already played East Meadow
Crush could actually win the bracket outright if E Meadow ties twice their last 2 (or loses to Match Fit and ties WC)Improbable? Maybe. Gotta see it play outAlbertson wont ever be an easy task. Cant count that one for Crush just yet either
Vakyries Announce New Youth PartnershipTSF Academy & IGFA launch Valkyries FC
I think it's safe to say NJ Wildcats now have company in the EDL NPL if Valkyries FC takes the place of TSF
9:15... where do you get your information?
Crush finally wins a game and then comes out talking a big game. Keep in mind - evrytime you talk like this - you end up in a bad spot. State Cup - Delco - Jeff cup to name a few. Better to let things play out and then talk. Just saying...
I think Crush was just piggybacking on the guy;'s post where it was said they would likely finish thirdMay in fact turn out that way of course.Pretty decent weekend though, winning two of three and allowing just 2 goals.
But who are the U12 Valkyries in Super Y. Both IGFA and TSF already have U12 teams in this age group. Is this a new team?
1:08 It looks like the same coach as IGFA. This could be girls from both teams.Super Y North AtlanticLong Island Rough Riders (NY)Parsippany SC (NJ)SABA NYC Girls (NY)Patriot FC (PA)Valkyries FC (NJ)Met Oval (NY)Rage SC (PA)Which brings up an interesting question. If neither TSF or IGFA were good enough to crack the top 10 on their own - what about the best 9 girls from each team, would that be good enough?WOW Fall 2014 going to be very interesting - can't wait to see the NPL line Ups (teams) plus wonder if more mergers are out waiting to be announced?Good Stuff
and of course how can i forget the very hot topic on this board of player movement
Crush are a good team, they won the game, but it helps to get all the calls, and yes, kicking the ball back to the GK is considered a back-pass in this country, and yes she did pass the ball back and your GK picked it up, hello?We do not cry when we lose, we do not scream when we win, we play as a team, and we win, or lose as a team.
Rage losing 7 to 9? I heard more like 10 to 12..... Should be ok though as the remaining 4 girls are from the top of the bench.P.S. Heard the coach is moving on as well. Any truth to that, or is it just a rumor?
Well..if they are all moving together then it is just a re-branding and RAGE, whatever it is called, will be formidable still...So, NYSC guy is saying they got screwed vs Crush? I wonder what he is doing here if his team never says a word.
If in fact Rage losses that many players they won't have a team come fall.They will not have enough players.
Oh no, that’s not me, that’s my wife.
Wildcats are a punchline. All the entertainment happens on their sidelines. Never hear, not do I want to, how PDA or NJX "wins" their games. Look at Wildcats tournament and SC results. Easy to counter their "send it, kickball style". Boca quickly made the adjustment and beat Wildcats. In meaningless EDP games, teams will work on things and get all their players in. Wildcat coach out here all day, still never heard their tournament wins. Can't find any listed on GS. I guess they are waiting to play some summer teams to answer.
lol Pocono cup is coming soon
I am certain there is a "story" on the Wildcats loss to Boca.I havent heard Wildcats make any excuses, though they might have some of legitimacyTo their credit that they have tipped their cap and moved on from it - and well, I might add.
"In meaningless EDP games....."Like it or not, pal (I assume you dislike, based on standings)EDP is a tournament
wildcats complete body of work at U12 year speaks for itself.Never had losing record in any tournament at U12 and very strong state cup run to Semi's in fall.Undefeated with No EDP League losses in fall and spring League(15 games) with quality wins over Storm, Ajax. Many quality wins in state cup and tournament play- Bimghamton FC, Ajax ,Rage, South Shore Select, 3-1 win over Georgia #3 ranked team at jeff cup(team that went to finals).tournament ties vs WAZA Mich, Calvert Hall, NJX, Rage, Binghamton NY,Competitive in every single game as Each one of their 5 losses at U12 were 2 goal spreads or less with no team scoring more than 2 goals against them.
...and when NJX beats them in the final EDP game and pulls the rug out from under your dream EDP first place, be prepared to hear it from all.GO NJX!!!!!
we should qualify for champions league win or lose monday as at worst best 2nd place.We are making no predictions about mondays game .We will leave that to you guys at matchfit and njx.We will only say that we will show up and we will be on time.
no way NJX is beating Wildcats. Sorry
Wildcats are going to tear NJX up. They can't beat anyone anymore. Bring it on NJX!
NJX will be ready...and on time also.
This thread sounds like someone who sits in their car and talks to themselves, and not only when they are alone, yikes.
I would be pissed too if a team came on here bragging about winning and won the game like that. What did the ref do? That is the most obvious penalty in soccer.
Wise brains of the internet, this means you!Please pick the best team from each state, right now.CT:NJNYNo comments please.
here, I’ll go first:CT: CFC Orange WestNJ: MF BlackNY: EM Hotshotz
3:00 Wait I thought you said EDP League games are meaningless.Oh I forgot that's only when Wildcats win the game.
all the teasing and posing aside, should be a very good game.Looking forward to the competition on monday.
I hope they both lose.
It will be a good game because NJX is not afraid to hit back.it will be played on a small field that you will not be able to move the ball on the ground.prediction NJX-2-0 over wildcats
Look, its the Soccer House-Husbands of New Jersey!
Parents at PDA Dragons should ask for a refund because Boca tied Dragons a few weeks ago. I want to get high so high
I heard Denver is beautiful this time of year, enjoy!
Did anyone else noticed that PDA Dragons lost to Staten Island? Wow, B team or not, bad loss
Did someone really post that MF and NJX coaches are leaving in the fall?You people are nuts!
Jags ? How do you see results and standings? Is it just looking at the schedule? It is impossible to read, I must be looking in wrong place.
Jokes on you 4:25.
5:39 I agree
Luv that Crush is alive - welcome back. Funny.
EDP StatesCT: FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVYNJ: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMNY: WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTONMA; BREAKERS GU12 ELITEMD: MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 REDPA: WCUSC PREDATORS'01GVA: FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01
2:41. I hope you don't do your own taxes. Your Wildcat numbers are a joke. You have given up more than 2 goals in a game, just not your loses? The number we were looking for was how many tournaments you have won, regardless of the bracket you play in. Examples: Storm won State cup in fall, knocking you out along the way. NJX won NJ Cup defeating Storm in final.
Only gave up 3 goals once all year in 4-3 win at IGFA. Worse loss all year was 2-0.
Of the tournaments wildcats entered none (spirit,jeff cup, fc delco) except pda was won by a nj team.so according to your criteria very few nj teams would qualify as successful.
Every season the state cup is won by a NJ team.
1st Division North1) EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ = 131) WORLD CLASS FC = 133) CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE = 124) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI = 105) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC = 76) ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED = 47) NEW YORK SC G01 = 48) SDFC SAMBA = 2Remaining GamesWORLD CLASS FCNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIALBERTSON FURY '01 REDNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIMATCH FIT ACADEMY FCEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZWORLD CLASS FCEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZMATCH FIT ACADEMY FCNEW YORK SC G011st Division Central1) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL = 162) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM = 153) HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC = 94) RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM = 85) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX = 66) NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS = 37) IGFA = 18) TSF ACADEMY = 1Remaining GamesTSF ACADEMYINTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM0 NJ FORCE ACADEMY (Forfeit Not posted)2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXINTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTICRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASLHOLMDEL FC NJX CELTICRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMTSF ACADEMY1st Division South1) CES CALVERT CREW WHITE = 182) PIPELINE SC BLACK = 103) FUTURE MONARCHS BLACK = 74) MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G = 05) FC MILAN 01G = 0Remaining gamesFC MILAN 01GFUTURE MONARCHS BLACKMARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01GFC MILAN 01GMARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01GFC MILAN 01GCES CALVERT CREW WHITEFUTURE MONARCHS BLACKMARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01GPIPELINE SC BLACKFUTURE MONARCHS BLACKCES CALVERT CREW WHITEJAGS ELITE u12 11v11PDA Galaxy = 12PDA Dragons = 11SI United Hotshots = 10Toms River FC COPA 01/02 = 9Manalapan Dynamite = 5Washington United Fever = 5Stronghold SC Fury = 2Remaining gamesManalapan DynamitePDA DragonsPDA GalaxyPDA DragonsSI United HotshotsWashington United Fever
I wonder what would happen if you took all the kids from njx, matchfit, copa, wildcats, pda and had them tryout for one team, how many from each team would make one team of the top 18?
here you go:6 PDA6 MF3 NJX3 WC0 CopaThanks!
So what was the comment, I am curious to know the depth of logical thinking in NJ.
Forget about order. Does GS have the right teams? If yes is it still a bad tool? If not who should be included?This paint and even better picture when Aug rolls around and the 2013 events are replaced by 2014 events.NJ TOP 8HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTICPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCHRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMINJSA 04 GALAXYMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (LADY FALCONS)NJ NEXT Best 12INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02SDFC SAMBAJERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASHTSF ACADEMY 01/02PDA DRAGONSSTA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01MERCER FC SPURSNJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDARPARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPLPITTSGROVE SC RUSH 01/02FC COPA ACADEMY LIMASOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01NY Top 5EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZWORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTONNEW YORK SC G01ATLETICO GU11ALBERTSON FURY '01 REDNY NEXT best 10SABA BROOKLYN CITYWORLD CLASS FC '01HAMMEAST MEADOW SKY BLUEWHITE PLAINS UNITED 02MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDEFC WESTCHESTER ELITE FC WESTCHESTER 02RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02BRENTWOOD (FORMERLY EAST ISLIP) DYNAMITEKOSMOS FC NIKHMASSAPEQUA HURRICANES
TO bad Dragons missed out on the EDP Spring points.
Post 5:39, how is the joke on me?Am I not reading the score correctly on the JAGS website?Saturday May 31 2014 TBD SI United Hotshots 2, @PDA Dragons 0 PDA Dragons Played
8:53 that's been up for over a week.As you can see the Strong hold game was even posted.So either they are forfeits are they were played before schedule.Curious what made you research JAGS?I posted the standings for you in a previous post.This is the same Dragons Team that has some quality wins as well in state cup games against some tough teams (IGFA, NJ Crush, NJ Force) and you pick on them for their JAGS games. For real? No one said this team was great but as a B team they are better than some A teams and will only get better.If Storm had turnover, some players might slide down and they might even add new players to their roster.So back to the question, why JAGS? Is there more to your post?
are all teams getting a 2-0 win against Force, or will the games that were played stand?
according to edp rules on their webste all forfeits should be recorded as 1-0 wins.why the extra goals scored and goal differential.couldn't that impact final tie breaker in standings?
if the team is gone from the division, the record should just be completely removed. Not fair for a team to get 3 points for nothing when another team had to play a game and lost or tied.
10:28 I disagree - since this is u12 soccer I would have preferred EDP making an exception and allowing the NJSA 04 team finish out the year since they took over the Gotsoccer account. However, I understand why they can't.Just as you said it's not fair for teams that didn't play them to get 3 points it's not fair for the team that beat them to lose 3 points. The only teams that benefit from you suggestion are the teams that didn't get the result they wanted.2-0 is the right score in my opinion for a forfeit - 1 goal for each half.
I don't understand how NJSA can just transfer the NJ Force history and points when most of the girls are still with NJ Force (meaning they haven't been released of their cards) and unless the girls are all currently carded under NJSA then they shouldn't be carrying NJ Force history until August 1st. Then they would have history only and not points, which they should be earning under their own merit. Not piggy backing off of a different teams accomplishment or lack of, however you want to see it. I thought all teams are as is until August unless a player or players ask for a release from the current club.Can anyone shed some light on this?
Big win for SDFCSDFC SAMBA 3-2 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMI think the team switched clubs and if the team switched clubs then they carry their history only fair.
Rage definitely fell off after losing so many girls.
Well, the best way to see if it was right to give NJSA points is to make note of the current points NJSA 04 Galaxy has now from grabbing Force points and to see how many points they earn at U13.If they have a big drop, then we know that it wasn't the same team. If they don't then we know it truly was the whole team moving over, but I thought someone wrote that some of their main players went to Wildcats?
Okay either way NJSA wins they get a good group of players to add to their current group for their NPL team. Not sure which will have an easier time to the NPL Finals in 2015.NJSA had all the MA & CT teams leave - so only NJ Force remains. It also sounds like STA got stronger not sure if any of the NY clubs or any new clubs can make run for the NYSCL NPL title at u13 next year.While NJ Wildcats I though only had NYSC to deal with but it sounds like they may have moved to the NYSCL NPL as well. Leaving the the Wildcats to deal with LVU from PA - who I think beat this team look at GS results when they played 8v8 and the new hybrid team from TSF/IGFA. Not sure wht the Stallions have or Jersey United.NE Girls NPL looks a lot stronger with both PDA teams Ajax and Dragons, NJX or some version of a MF 2nd team, FC Stars of MASS, Boston Breakers and the FSA/SoccerPlus team plus CFC. Not a bad league of B teams could probably take most of the A teams form other Clubs. Let's mot forget the New England NPL with some some strong teams of their own, NEFC, Oakwood, Yankee, Seacoast & GPSThe Storm, MF Black, EM and Charlton will disappear from the standings as they travel with the ECNL teams in the fall.Region1 leagues don't pick up until the Spring so that leaves EDP and NYSCL PL as top leagues to keep an eye on as well.Hey PA guys what's the word any of your teams trying their luck against the Northeast or they sticking to State teams plus DE?
1:17 my bad NJ Crush not NJ Force
They may not have got those girls that's not to say these other kids can't play. Just because one coach doesn't think a kid can be a starter doesn't mean the kid can't play.NJSA did well by getting more players to add to their player pool and these players will get a chance to play in a different system which may be better for their skill set.Not a great ending for this team but at least it looks like all the kids have a new home to play soccer.
says the person who started this whole thing to begin with
From what I heard, many of them have been on a number of teams and not considered starters
The loss to SDFC was with players from Rage still on team. My understanding that only 2 girls left so far before the end of the season. So when the other 4 or more leave it will be more noticeable the demise.
2 can make a difference, if just in not having fresh legs.Credit SDFC
Rage playing Storm this weekend, lets see how they do by putting them out to pasture.
So is NJSA putting out 2 teams at U13? Cedars, which is a mix of EB and Manalapan, and now Galaxy?
What was that - a crossover game, between SDFC and Rage?
I dont know, 2:22. I just hope their better teams plays NPL
2:05 - 1:46 here are you talking to me. I think you have me confused with another poster. I post a lot on this board - admin can verify that for you - but have nothing to do with NJ Force. I have been accused of being with NJ Wildcats, Rage, NJ Crush and as a PDA shill (none of which are correct) just a GS guys who likes to follow a sport he loves and his daughter also loves to play. It's that simple.Besides what did I say that was so wrong? Every coach sees a kid as a certain type of player - doesn't mean the kid is that player.
2:07 Don't forget your bench is just as important. Why do you think the older PDA and MF teams are so good? Their starting XI? No because they can switch at any time and never lose a step while some of the other teams get a little tired. The better you get the faster the game and the more energy you need to use.The bench is the difference between a good team and a great team. The great team has a Starting 18 not XI
@1:24Don't let facts get in the way of your story. Quite a few girls played indoor as a group in several events and when it was obvious force was not viable option going forward the players/parents reached out. Not at all how your story line reads but not alot of truth on this blog to begin with other than actual scores of games (and even those can be suspect).
So......2:30 you guys didnt make PDA?Good luck with whatever decision you made
2:37 Thank You
2:34 - You are so correct. Good teams with no bench can keep up with great teams and a long bench for only so long. Starters on a good team (club, academy, whatever) will play so much more, if not the entire game, compared to a great team. When the subs come in the great team does not lose a beat, and can exploit the bench players of the good team.
Match Fit Black vsE Meadow SaturdayWorld Class vs E Meadow SundayEDP North in balance
In Some Super Y Action (teams will qualify for National Event in Florida)Jun 4 Valkyries FC Valkyries Unitedat Parsippany SC
PS. That's the first Super Y game of the season.Why don't more teams do Super Y?It's Club neutral. It costs about the same as doing 3 Tournaments and you play the same amount of games over a few months instead of 3 weekends? plus you qualify for a trip to FLorida to play in a National Event + they also have an ODP.Just curious. Just seems like the way to go.League play all year round with January to March off.Fall = NPL / EDPSpring = NPL / EDP / Region 1Summer = Super YThat's about 30 games for the season spread out over 9 months.Plus teams can still do the usual suspects Manhattan, Jefferson, Delco, Spirit, Wags and any other major event I missed.
GS Top 3s playing u12 2013/20141 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH1 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ2 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON3 NEW YORK SC G01Yes, we can make the argument that MF Black is top 3 - but they played u13 soccer - not apples to apples.Yes, we can make the argument that Athletico should be top 3.Must admit - as much as most of us hate GS they seem to have it right.Look at previous post with more teams included. Not chasing points - teams just playing in events and finishing events strong so they get points - they don't lay any eggs.NJ vs NY using those six teams?Is it a complete sweep for NY?
Take Storm team over anyone of those NY teams
Storm over NY Soccer clubWC over StormEast Meadow over Storm
New York sweep?OUT TO LUNCH
August tournaments are all the rage now, 4:17I dont think the better teams want a summer schedule.
I like all 3 teams.There is some real talent on these teams.
NYSC wouldn't beat any of the tip 3 NJ teams. Have you seen then play? They're improving but right now, their reputation way exceeds their abilities.
ODP Regionals kick off this weekend. How does NJ & NY teams look?
I have seen NYSC play, and they are pretty good, can see why they have lost to various teams, but in the long-run, they can compete with anyone.P.S. They are the only team of the three mentioned playing for their state's championship.
"ODP Regionals kick off this weekend. How does NJ & NY teams look? "Here are the brackets. Gotta think NJ, NYE, NYW, PAE, VA, MD, and CT will send the most competitive groups. The rest are fodder. MA not participating.These are friendlies so the scores will not be posted.Bracket AEASTERN NEW YORK YSA 2001 A (NYE)NEW JERSEY 01 GIRLS LOWER (NJ)SOCCER RHODE ISLAND 01 GIRLS (RI)VIRGINIA YOUTH 2001 #3 (VA)Bracket BEASTERN NEW YORK YSA 2001 B (NYE)SOCCER MAINE ODP 2001 GIRLS (ME)VERMONT ODP 2001 GIRLS (VT)VIRGINIA YOUTH 2001 #2 (VA)Bracket CDELAWARE YOUTH 2001 GIRLS (DE)EPYSA 01 PHILLY GOLD (PAE)NEW JERSEY 01 GIRLS UPPER (NJ)PENNSYLVANIA WEST STATE 2001 (PAW)Bracket DEPYSA 01 LANCASTER (PAE)MARYLAND STATE YOUTH 2001 ELFMAN B (MD)NEW HAMPSHIRE 2001 ODP TEAM (NH)VIRGINIA YOUTH 2001 #1 (VA)Bracket ECJSA CT01GIRLS2 (CT)EPYSA 01 LEHIGH (PAE)MARYLAND STATE YOUTH 2001 WALSH C (MD)NEW YORK STATE WEST YSA 2001 A (NYW)Bracket F CJSA CT01GIRLS1 (CT)EPYSA 01 PHILLY BLUE (PAE)NEW YORK STATE WEST YSA 2001 B (NYW)WEST VIRGINIA 2001/2002 (WV)Number of teams representedNJ 2 (upper and lower)NYW 2NYE 2PAE 4 (Lancaster; Lehigh; 2 from Philly)CT 2MD 2WV 1DE 1PAW 1VA 3ME 1RI 1VT 1NH 1
Where are the ODP games going to be played? 1 location or multiple?
Multiple locations near the I95/US206 junction north of Trenton.
The talent at tip is far better than odp.I think most parents realize that if there child is good enough they should not be paying an arm and a leg for them to be represented.
Tell me more about TIP. Is this only for players that play in an EDP league? And how does a player get chosen? Does their own coach nominate them or do opposing coaches do the nominating?
The coach can nominate you.There a lot of scouts in the talent identification program that also go to tournaments that the teams in edp participate in.So they also do there on choosing.But if your coach nominate you.That doesn't mean you are chosen.It's basically a tryout at every training session.They have about 20 or so girls in each year.It Started with 80 or more.Great trainers and a lot of opportunities in the program.With no additional cost.
There is only 20 players in te TIP program? Do they play against other states?
TIP sounds analogous to the USSF Training Centers. For the USSF TCs, clubs nominate players to participate and the USSF staff will invite the players back as they see fit. If a club nominates five players, and two are not adequate quality, the next year when USSF starts with a new age group USSF will only allow that club to nominate 2-3 players. Keeps the clubs honest. And in this way, USSF learns not only about the good players born in 2001, but also which clubs are training them. The clubs are being evaluated along with the players.
No other way to do it 2:02 There should be no room for loyalty when people are paying 2k a year.
Why would Massachusetts be taking a pass on the ODP regional games?
Its because they’re special, did you NOT get the memo?
2K, damn that sounds like a discount...
Yes with tip if a coach nominates a player that is not adequate enough.This effects how many choices the coach will have later.They director's of tip also pick there own girls from watching games/tournaments.
Why all the silence?
Because the Cats are gearing up for the showdown at the OK corral.
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So, if Wildcats win, will they consider themselves the best in NJ??
We are already the best team in NJ.
I thought NJX was the best, but perhaps I was wrong.I will take your word for it, no need to play on Monday, you win.
I think Wildcats will consider themselves one of NJ's best teams regardless of what happens.Below is their body of work 2013/2014GP vs NJ Teams 30W 18T 8L 4GF 74GA 24 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 2-0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 1-2 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ) 2-2 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ) 2-2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 2-0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 1-1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 1-1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 1-0 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ) 0-0 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ) 0-2 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ) 1-0 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ) 0-0 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS (NJ) 2-1 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS (NJ) 0-0 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ) 4-3 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ) 4-1 TSF ACADEMY (NJ) 6-0 PITTSGROVE SC RUSH 01/02 (NJ) 2-0 SDFC SAMBA (NJ) 4-1 EAST BRUNSWICK SC LIGHTNING (NJ) 1-1 SJEB '01 (NJ) 2-1 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ) 4-1 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC 01/02 (NJ) 4-0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC 01/02 (NJ) 1-2 WWPSA SPURS (NJ) 5-0 RANCOCAS VALLEY SC MAGIC (NJ) 6-0 DELRAN FURY (NJ) 7-1 Wall Wave (NJ) 6-0 Piscataway Jaguars (NJ) 3-0 RYSA Wildcats Green (NJ) 0-2 (forfeit) GP vs NON - NJ Teams 11W 5T 4L 2GF 17GA 8 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U12 ELITE (MA) 1-0 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD) 2-2 CREW JUNIORS CREW JR'S GOLD WEST (OS) 0-2 CREW JRS CREW JR'S GOLD WEST (OS) 0-1 NEFC SC UNITED U12 GIRLS NPL (MA) 6-0 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) 0-0 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) 2-1 GOL GSA 02 GIRLS RED (GA) 3-1 WAZA EAST 02 JUNIORS (MI) 0-0 MANHATTAN G'01 PRIDE - RED (NYE) 2-0 CALVERT CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) 1-1
Well, after looking at those stats, they are definitely a top 5 team in New Jersey, other than the BOCA result, they are solid.NYE Guy
The team is talented, they just need to muzzle the coach and replace the parents...then they are one of the best in NJ. Wouldn't want that sideline to represent NJ anywhere.
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Now that is kinda sad, and all too common in youth sports, and girls soccer being no exception. I am pretty sure every team has had several parents, that spoil the experience for not only their team, but the other team as well. I have come across my share of ungrateful morons, but its just the way it is. You can choose your players carefully, but the adults that come attached with those players, is something you cannot control.
9:30You could actually say that about each of the top 5 Jersey teams. Put a muzzle on each teams parents. WildcatsNJXPDACRUSH
My daughter's team has played all teams listed above. Wildcats are at a "whole 'nother level".
Wildcats have not won any Championships in any bracket. I don't even see where they have made the finals of lower brackets. Do great teams lose to Boca in the first round of State Cup?1.NJX2.Storm3. MF Black. Note: Ajax and Storm recently beat NJX in EDP but I still feel in a Championship game they are the best right now. I don't over value wins/draws/losses in regular season games.
Since we like to talk PDA/MF on this board a lot - I have a different kind of spin on results for them.MY TOP NJ LIST - just for these stats (GS)HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCHRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXNJSA 04 GALAXYSDFC SAMBAINTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (LADY FALCONS)Record vs MY Top NJ ListMF Black (W=4, L=0, T=1, GF=7, GA=1)PDA Storm (W=7, L=3, T=0, GF=19, GA =8)PDA Dragons (W=4, L=2, T=0, GF=9, GA=11)NJX (W=5, L=4, T=3, GF=15, GA=13)PDA Ajax (W=2, L=5, T=3, GF=7, GA=15)MF Blue did not play anyRecord vs NJ Teams not on MY List.PDA Storm (W=8, L=0, T=0, GF=29, GA=0)NJX (W=20, L=0, T=1, GF=90, GA=7)PDA Dragons (W=13, L=0, T=2, GF=51, GA=4)MF Black (W=0, T=1, L=0, GF=1, GA=1)PDA Ajax (W=10, L=2, T=0, GF=41, GA=12)MF Blue (W=1, L=3, T=1, GF=6, GA=8)
League games are meaningless. You are playing for nothing. The kids no that. No trophies, No championships, just bragging rights till the next tournament when that team fails....ie (BOCA) "Development" This is why the Jags and EDP leagues were created. This whole thing with receiving got soccer points is a joke and it takes away from the EDP development process. You have teams like wildcats, Crush and Ajax desperately trying to win the league and then you have teams like Storm and MF working on development and strategy.
NJ Wildcats vs same listTop NJ Teams from listW=6, L=2, T=7, GF=19, GA=13Vs Other NJ teams not on ListW=12, L=2, T=1, GF=55, GA=9
Wait a second are you trying to tell me 11 and 12 year old girls think league games are for nothing, just running around?I know that's what you believe.My daughter plays every game like it's 0-0 - full speed, it' not her job to decide when she can take a minute off - the coach plays her and she plays regardless of the score and regardless of the format (league, SC or major event).I would hope your daughter plays the same way, but from the sounds of it, she doesn't care and doesn't play her best in league games. WOW can't believe you just said that.
In league games, lots of playing time and switching players in and out. Sometimes sitting starters out for 1/2 games at a time.The girls that are playing are playing hard but they are not of the quality of the starters.I have seen the Wildcats play and I don't blame them for making EDP a big deal. This is their league to show their stuff.Teams that are entering the ECNL and The NPL have a different purpose for playing EDP.Was interested in having my daughter try-out for this team and even went to a few practices. The coach is trying to teach skills but the most of the players just aren't that good at them.Coach is playing the style in which this team can have the most success.On their website the wildcats make mention of the EDP championships between the North, South, and Central-So this is a big deal to their club.If an ECNL team makes the playoff round of the championship, my guess is that they will decline the invitation.I think you can finally say, after the declination, that the ECNL teams couldn't care less about EDP.Example: PDA beats Rage and NJX beat Wildcats.That would make PDA the "champs" of the central division.My guess is that PDA would pass on the playoffs and let the wildcats take their place.That should tell you everything you need to know about the priorities of the two programs.
10:48 I agree with what you say. EDP is the league for some while others are trying to get things right.I get it you got it, but the kids don't and shouldn't.All they know is they give 100% when they are asked to play. If it's 90 minutes or just 5.If he kids weren't good enough for the team they wouldn't make it. Every girl on a team's roster deserves that spot and if the team isn't as strong when they play well that's not the player's fault - they only accepted an invite to play.My point is from the perspective of a kid - they play regardless of the league for one purpose and that's to win and fun of course.I don't put any added pressure on my daughter, baby this is the final you have to be on, come on man they have to deal with enough pressure to keep their minutes and their roster spots.Anyway I agree with what you are saying but not if I was the kid playing I would disagree
10:48 Think... if PDA beats Rage, then Wildcats would have to win?EDP Central would be a great win for a club like the Wildcats. That certainly will be posted on their website, its not like they would have to remove any Championship announcements.Since they answer every question, I guess they have not won any Championships or Tournaments?
10:28No one ever said anything about the kids playing to lose or not giving 100%. I do believe, the better coaches and trainers stress development and stress the fact that they want to work on different things during these glorified scrimmages. GET A CLUE!
Deserved to play the finals at PDA tourney. Only a goal allowed vs TSF (in a 4-1 win) kept them out of it.
11:46 is the same person over and over trying desperately to pooh-pooh EVERY wildcats win or success.It's obvious he has a personal ax to grind and his bitterness and is transparent to all.As the wildcats have now achieved their first goal of being in the mix among the top 5 he is now becoming more and more desperate in his efforts to ignore reality.It's called Denial.Wait until he sees Cats improved and deeper roster for fall.Notice how he spends so much time reading our website. Obsessed with trying to hold back a 12 year old girls soccer team.You are ill'in dude!
I will go ahead and assume Storm wins and NJX winsThe Final 4 EDP is then likelyCALVERT CREWPDA STORMWINNER, W CLASS V E MEADOWLOSER, W CLASS V E MEADOWOther possibilities..... but this appears to be it.
My daughter actually just mentioned her teams league standings yesterday, so believe me, the girls don't think these games mean nothing. They may mean nothing to you, but you're not the one on the field.
11:46 Let's talk apples to apples.Yes you and I agree about League games, scrimmages and SC events plus high level events. I don't disagree with you on this.But it sounds like you agree with me on the kids giving 100% so a win is a win on that day, NO?The coach plays what ever formation he or she wants with the players he or she has, if it's a short bench or a long bench. Those kids that made that team still have to play. The team is not defined by it's starting XI - maybe in your book it is. To me the kids play the same way regardless of the format and since only one side can win if they don't tie - how else are you going to measure?Teams have tryouts and add players that can contribute to their roster, if it's playing 5 minutes to give the star a break then it's 5 minutes. Training and Practice is development day - study day - when it's time to play against another team that is trying to do the same thing as you it's test time. Regardless of what the coach does. Get a CLUE you say to me. Okay I guess you are right and I am wrong. You happy.
11:46I have never been to the wildcats website, nor will I. We will see how deep and good you are next year.
NJ Wildcats (W=6, L=2, T=7, GF=19, GA=13)NJX (W=5, L=4, T=3, GF=15, GA=13)PDA Ajax (W=2, L=5, T=3, GF=7, GA=15)So NJX won the US Club State Cup. Okay Nice is that the same as winning the USYSA State Cup? Which Regional event means more? Region 1 or US Club Mid-Atlantic?Look at the body of work - I am not saying any of these teams are the best - they are all good teams. But there is only one way to measure them and that's by results. Why measure them they are u12? I'm an idiot and love doing it - simple we can either talk about this or not.NYE guy and the NY crew. Switching gears for a second. What kind of props do you give Athletico? Do they deserve to be top 3 since they beat EM twice this season. Who falls out of the NY top 3 WC, NYSC or EM if we include Athletico?
Look how many games the Wildcats played. They must have won something? Ajax-EDP Fall, PDA 3rd Bracket (Cats, bracket)NJX- NJ CupsStorm- State CupMF Black- NPL U13 playoffsWildcats1. EDP Fall 4th behind Ajax, NJX, NJ Force2. State Cup lose to Storm3. NJ Cup first round lose to Boca4. PDA 3rd Bracket- Lost bracket to Ajax, eventual Champion.These are not attacks, these are facts. Wildcats a good team, but not great. I didn't see any game recaps from Ajax/NJX, Ajax/Storm or Storm/NJX league games. Thats called development and sportsmanship.If you want respect, then give it.
e. meadow still has world class and crushWorld class still has e. meadow and matchfit.If loser of e. meadow vs world class ties or loses in their other remaining game they would be mathematically eliminated from edp playoffs.If loser of e. meadow vs world class wins their other game they would still at best only tie with wildcats even if wildcats lose to njx and wildcats still have 2 goal edge in differential going into final game.
anyone claiming that league games mean nothing are just looking to diminish any teams that are doing well in it.The EDP league is not cheap. Its about $1200 each season, so the fact that a club would just spend that money to sit starters and rotate players through is funny.I bet the parents paying the fees don't see it that way.
12:40 what's your thing with the Wildcats? I don't think anyone called them great. All I have read and posted was that they are a good team. Why do you always throw AJAX into the Mix? Let's look at NJ Wildcats vs Ajax when they were in the same eventsEDP (Spring and Fall)Nj Wildcats (W=8, L=0, T=6, GF=30, GA=12)PDA Ajax (W=8, L=3, T=2, GF=26, GA=15)State Cups (US Club and USYSA)Nj Wildcats (W=4, L=2, GF=20, GA=5)PDA Ajax (W=4, L=2 GF=13, GA=5)Events (PDA & Spirit)Nj Wildcats (W=3, L=0, T=3 GF=13, GA=3)PDA Ajax (W=3, L=2, T=2 GF=12, GA=5)OverallNj Wildcats (W=15, L=2, T=9, GF=63, GA=20)PDA Ajax (W=15, L=7, T=4, GF=41, GA=25)
NOEast Meadow played Crush alreadyI think they have Match Fit, then WC
Goals allowed has Wildcats in troubleWorst case is if WC and EM tie, then win their other game17 points each to 16 for Cats
True my mistake, but still applies- IE: world class play crush and e. meadowe. meadow play world class and match fit.loser of e. meadow vs world class must win other remaining game and still only ties wildcats for best 2nd even if wildcats lose to njx.Wildcats clinch best 2nd with tie vs njx and clinch first in central with win vs njx.Also with storm tie or loss to rage wildcats lock up first place in central.
1224Atletico hopes to show who should be OUT of that top 3 when they play NYSC this weekend.World lost to E Meadow in this CupE Meadow lost to AtleticoNobody lost to NYSC
NYSC couldnt even beat Albertson in EDP
Well said, 1:24Match Fit and Crush playing spoiler, though Crush I believe actually has a shot still at a share of the North
Come on coach, I understand you have to cater to your parents to recruit. PDA and MF do not care what the parents thinks. Thats the difference.PDA and MF are building for the future. They use league games to determine if 6 thru 16 can grow with the team. You don't want to hear it but its true. Look at their subbing in league play vs Tournaments.Look at NJX, in big games one girls kicks and throws everything to their 2 fast forwards. In league play they rotate more. Thats not a slight against NJX, just shows the different mentality.
$1200 is cheap divided by 16.@ 12:11pm: What team does your daughter play for? My daughter is not concerned with her teams record. She just wants to play every game great and win. The development portion is up to the coach and where he puts players on the field.
The league means different things to different teams. Doesn't make it right or wrong. So if your team has accomplished a good season, great.If your team uses it as glorified scrimmages so be it.I find it hard to believe that NJX or Storm or Wildcats or Ajax would be OK with just losing games to work on the game and having their team fall into the 2nd division, but then again, the games don't mean anything right.
I think Atletico is a very good team, and they seem to have the Hotshotz number right now, 1 win, 1 tie, but the 3-0 win last year was a forfeit by EM, so stop getting all excited, and brrrrreath. Will be a great game, but I think NYSC will prevail, they have a great midfield, and will control the ball.
If wildcats coach was full of any more crap he could double as a septic tank.
If pda storm and match fit black hadn't lost games in edp then 1:31 wouldn't be talking about glorified scrimmages and meaningless league games.If either club had a team in first place they would be listing it as another nice accomplishment for their team and club just as they did when pda ajax won edp league in fall.And rightly so.Everything else is just noise and spin.
BTW: I think the 9 v 9 format on the smaller field is an advantage to Atletico, no question. They already play small-sided in NYPL, and should be use to small spaces, while NYSC has played 11 v 11 all year, except in NY Cup games, so at 4:10 pm on Sunday, at HBC Complex on field #5, as the sun shines and crowd cheers, its going to be about who wants it more...
To be fair, this is the first season where I have heard such an emphasis on EDP games and standings. Just the EDP central division, hmmmm. Why would that be?
At this age - whole new ballgame spring 2014. GREAT divisions.
@ 2:20Maybe because its a ridiculously stacked division with all being in the top 10 except TSF (they have dropped of late).NJX-#1Storm #2Cats#3Rage-#4Ajax-#6Force-#7IGFA-#9TSF-#12Nice group no?
The only big addition was Storm. If you believe those rankings are legit, then your a dope.
You guys are just Idiots.Wildcats will make it through no matter what.PDA will not go to the playoff' s either by winning 1st place or by wildcard.Wildcats will get automatic bid because PDA will give up their spot.Maybe then you'll understand how meaningless this is too them.
if they give up their spot then that says everything.lets see.
Hoping we dont find outHave to be pulling for Wildcats to be in via bracket win and Storm out, well.because they are out.Then they can say whatever they wish.......
Wild card will come in from central if PDA wins Rage game, no matter what.So even if they don't give their first place to wildcats, they may give their wildcard to someone else.
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"If they give up their spot it says everything"Says they are a-holes who thumb their nose at whatever doesnt suit them, league be damnedWould show why powers that be tried to keep them out of the league
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