If a 02 player is currently playing at U15 vs. 00's & 01's then she must be quality and for her to move down and play U15 again next year will not benefit her. As she is most likely will be a Freshman looking for the advantage and play with a Sophomores. 3:16 has the right concept it's not only the year change many of us have to worry next year but graduated class. If your club has majority of Freshman's born 00/01 moving as U16 than the 01's will mostly want to be seen with the graduating 2019 class.
4:33 just one correction if any team has players born in '00 they will be u17 not u16 - '01s will be u16 and '02s will be u15.I agree about the the 01's they will mostly be seen as the graduating 2019 class which will benefit the 2020 01s.
4:33 my bad I misread your post.I agree
3:16 You are talking about two players and only one which is a definite. We were originally talking about whole teams trying to stay together. Your little Susie will still be able to play U15 next year, so don't get your panties in a bunch. If PF is going to let a 02 play up as a U16, its going to be on the offensive side. Are you the same parent that declared PF had the same amount of 02's as 01's on their U14 team in a post awhile back? You should try to talking to the other parents on the team once in a while, instead of being all pissed of and complaining in your small circle (very small) of friends. Then you would at least know about your own team.
One thing PF does not have to worry about is the keeper position. They have two very good ones right now. Saw them play this fall and both girls were very good, different styles, but very good. Had to be though as their outside defenders were exposed constantly and kept giving up outside runs.
Penn Fusion getting beat up tonight. Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed.
I think its 50/50. Some good, some bad. PF's U16 team will be dominant next year.
8:38 glad you're not a parent on my kids team. You sound like quite the asshole.
Poster is likely the former PF parent of an 02 who took his kid to CFC when the club wouldnt kiss his butt enough and let his kid play up. Now his kid plays for a crap team. Great move although it definitely was appreciated by some.
Funny to read all these assumptions about next year. My kid is an older 02. I'm ok with it. She's a great player and next year she'll be a great leader. One thing for sure, tryout season will be very eventful. The younger 01's will have the toughest time with the transition.
Any updated information about the possibility of girls getting a DA?
Sounds like you have a divide in your current team, 12:51"The '01s will have trouble......"Not getting along with some of the other families?Hope you get through the spring without incident.
A girls DA is still in Talks, I think the biggest obstacle is how much of the MLS clubs will have ties into the program. It will most likely happen as they know it will be a big draw in overall funding if the girls side started a DA even if it's the ECNL league converting to it.
Can US soccer please get some top notch competence in charge if they intend to start and operate a big new program? Not too impressed with the launch of the new age change regulations.
10:01 Totally Agree! Don't publish or change anything if the program doesn't give a straight forward direction and action plan with expectations and positive outcomes.
9:55 Time for your annual eye doctor appointment.
Any Jeff Cup early flight leaks?
11:16 No appt needed. Played them twice and got to see keepers twice and they both played great. Center backs and holding mid was solid also. What more you want me to say? One keeper instructs more than the other one but not as athletic. Obviously when they play better teams the offense struggles and so do the outside defenders, especially since they are not as fast as the attackers. But this is problematic with most teams, not just PF. But PF's talent up the middle is equal to anyone's.
12:51 here. More assumptions. Gotta love it! I'm not even with that team nor was I even talking specifically about them. Sorry to unstir that pot.
Yep definitely someone trying to stir something up. Boredom?
The USSF guidance is pretty clear at this point. Now it up to the state associations to implement it. The problem is because there is so much interstate play, PA, NJ, NY, MA, etc. all need to coordinate their decisions regarding the switch to birth year. In contrast, Cal South has already mandated the birth year change for next year and has most of the age groups playing on the 2017-mandated size fields/player numbers. But they can do that because, by and large, Cal South teams only play other Cal South teams in league play.The tryout process for next year's teams has already begun for Cal South teams. Not sure why the northeast states are dragging their feet.
That's what I was thinking when I read it. Sounds like one of goalies parents trying to discourage any other goalies from coming to tryouts.Can't see a girls DA coming about this year. Maybe next.
Both of the PF goalies are solid. Not sure if they still play for these clubs, but I've always felt that the best PA goalies in this age group were at PL, HMMS, and 1776 (this keeper has since moved on to Lower Merion). Continental also has one very good keeper.
PL's goalie will put any other goalie in PA out of a job.
1:16 Well that's a big question do Goalie's need ECNL league. In my opinion I think a goalie will really stand out and get notice more by going to collegiate camps where they see enough repetitions to see what they can do. They will attend the games just see vocal side of a goalie. So I'm not sure being on a top ECNL team will benefit a goalie at all where she will see 3-4 shots a game. My 2 cents anyone else have a different opinion.
A keeper just needs the balls to prove herself
1:16 -- True words.
No, a keeper proves herself by crushing balls, and forwards.
So PAC and PF's goalies should be worried? Is she an 01 or 02?
How is a girl's DA financed? Is it by the player's families?
The DA will probably not be financed right away and still be pay to play. It will most likely be an upper branch of the ECNL league for those clubs that have a boys and girls DA program in the club, that's what I've heard in rumor mill. If you look at the boys DA and match up the girls ECNL clubs you will notice there are many clubs already tied on both sides.
Where are the goalies from at the U.S. Training centers?
PL GK is an '02 I agree with 1:20 not sure a GK needs ECNL to stand out.
DA is by definition pay to play and on the boys side Matchfit has already been removed for not be able to adhere to free play on boys Da side. ECNL ios a money maker and no way are the ECNL clubs all going to start letting those kids all play for free.Like the boys side the Girls DA will need sponsors.
PL and HMMS are two of the goalies at the training centers. I believe both are 02's. Not sure where the other there is from.
If its pay to pay who cares. It will be same well off athletes that currently have access to high level youth competition.
Classic keeper is an 01. Saw her at the with the NTC team as well. Does not have the leg strength of the HMMS or PL keeper, but comes off her line better than either of them. PF keepers are far better at distribution than any of the above mentioned. It will be cool to see where this dedicated group ends up in five years. Each one of them has their strengths and weaknesses, although this is one area where height actually matters.
Anyone know where their coach will go with transition? What team will mike o take at PDA, 03 or 02?What about other teams?
PAC goalie was only at NTC for a short term. PL and HMMS goalies have been with NTC for 2 years now, I believe.
Heard NH 01, MO 02, LH 03
And others to. MF, sta, WCFC, crush? If mike takes one age group, who takes the other? I hope he takes the 01, I have an 02 moving and don't like the huge rosters. I know we will be moving and coaches have a ton to do with decision, especially at non ecnl clubs.
MAPS 2016 SPRING CHALLENGE [GIRLS]3/5/2016-3/6/201654---Real NJSC Sounders (NJ)58---Jersey Premier Soccer Flash (NJ)392--New Jersey Rush 01G Grey (NJ)912--Lower Merion SC Herricanes (PAE) 1192-Soccer Assn of Columbia Premier White (MD) 1683-LDC United Crew 01-02 (PAE)3028-New Jersey Rush 01G Black (NJ)
NEFC just announced their partnership with Boston Breakers tonight. Academy coming....
Very Interesting - The partnering organizations will be co-branded NEFC-Breakers and All Elite teams will play as the Boston Breakers Academy and serve as a bridge between the youth program and the college, reserve and professional squads. So NEFC Elite is now the ECNL or NorthEast Girls NPL team which ever they are the current ECNL team will either remain or become the NPL team?
Another great club goes the way of the encl..i wonder what they know that some on here don't.ECNL -not the only way just the easy way
The true Academies on the Girls side are.NWSL1. Boston Breakers2. Chicago Red Stars3. FC Kansas City4. Houston Dash5. Orlando Pride6. Portland Thorns FC7. Seattle Reign FC8. Sky Blue FC9. Washington Spirit10. Western New York FlashPossible Expansion:Real Salt Lake of MLS, Indy Eleven of NASLPittsburgh Riverhounds of USL ProAtlantaCalifornia - joint effort from the LA Strikers and Pali BluesHartford, ConnecticutSeattle Sounders Women of MLSVancouver Whitecaps Women of MLSToronto FC of MLSUWS to provide a true second division beneath the NWSL. 1. New England Mutiny2. Lancaster Inferno3. Laval Comets4. Long Island Rough Riders5. New York Magic6. North Jersey Valkyries7. Quebec Dynamo ARSQ8. New Jersey Copa FC.
11:32. NEFC did not announce they were going ECNL. Just setting up for the DA by partnering with the Breakers Pro team.
No 6:31 the exact comment was "All Elite teams will play as the Boston Breakers Academy" so for our age group NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS (1st Place New England NPL) = Boston Breakers Academy NEFC PREMIER NORTH U14 GIRLS (1st Place NEP) = NEFC BreakersBut they already have the belowBoston Breakers Academy ECNL U14 (2nd Place)Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL (5th Place)They have a very solid ECNL and NorthEast Girl NPL opening the door for Oakwood in the NewEngland NPL
To take it one step further all NEFC elite teams will become ECNL since FC Boston not very strong besides our age group.Maybenew ECNL teams -NEFC Elite teamsold ECNL teams - NorthEast Girls NPLBrings back the conversation from the beginning of the season why would Breakers leave ECNL for NEFC - I guess we have our answer now
Have heard rumors of some consolidation in NJ as well. ECNL pushing this because they are leary of adding clubs and diluting the quality. Bottom tier clubs especially were encouraged to find partners. Was told I would know more by end of January. NEFC/Breakers alliance creates a powerhouse.
8:36, not how it works. ECNL teams will be a combination of both clubs best players.
9:17of course that will be the case. Nefc and current ECNL boston will combine for a great team.
Heard that STA and Crush were merging, new club will be called Stush F.C!I like it.
August-December 01s have been playing at a lower level than the older 01s and 00s against whom they will have to compete for spots and play-time. Their development is, on the whole, behind. This phenomenon has been playing out for years at ODP where the August-December kids have struggled against the older kids, not necessarily because of size and physical maturation, but often because of the extra year of soccer developmental advantage. Thoughts?
10:58 - Agree completely. My daughter is Feb 02. Made her a stronger and smarter player no question. When you are forced to compete even as you give up a size advantage, then when that size advantage disappears you are in a way better spot.
Yes and Happy holidays.While there is some speed advantage to playing up if you are a first and second quarter 01 player. Your argument holds water when you compare the average player to the average player in both age groups. Fortuneltly in real life each player is different and I can take any number of great quality u14 players and play them against u15 players ( even on an ECNL team and the outcome of quality will vary depending on the specific player.So when we talk about the younger 01's being behind on average, In real life, the tryouts are about specific players and the cream will rise to the top no matter what age group the player(S) played in during current year.Soccer Nut
All good and true comments. Merry Xmas!!Soccer nut...your predictions on DA? 2016-17 season?
Who is NH at PDA?
I have heard of possible DA but my belief is that it's a bit further down the road.Where there is great amounts of money to be made or lost, the wheel tends to turn slowly until major players with a vested interest are satisfied.Soccer Nut
Anyone know who is taking over the 02 team at wcfc?
There is no money to support a DA like they have on the boys side, and really no need. The ECNL is the de facto DA and I agree with Nut, don't see that changing right now.
Like the "Soccer Nuts" comments regarding younger 01's moving up to U16. Add to the fact that by 14 years old, many girls are not grabbing to much more size. Those that have worked on their skill set and are polished will show well regardless. Being fast is great, being fast with the ball and your decisions will get noticed whether they are an younger 01 or not.Question for you soccer guru's. Two players show up at tryouts, both have a very similar skill set and roughly the same speed and size. One is a Feb 01 and the other is a Nov 01, which does the coach pick?
You pick the younger player because presumably they are not playing as close to their ceiling as the older player. More potential for improvement.
took the bait....There is always something that will set one player aside from the other. No - birth month wouldnt enter into it.
I would go with the younger player as well. But poster is right about there is usually something defining about each player. When it is a toss up concerning players that are that close in physical ability and talent, coaches will often look over to the sideline to see which parent is easier to deal with.
5:00, you are beyond stupid bro, you need help.
I can't believe 5:00 wrote that and thought to himself "this is really funny stuff". Pretty amazing.
Yeah, I can believe it, I have lost faith in the human race, 5:00 is a perfect example of loneliness, must of lost his kids in the divorce.
12/23 @ 10:58. Very insightful comment. My daughter was shocked at ODP being the only 8th grader on a field filled with 9th graders. Non-super stars will lose out 3 ways with the BYC. 1) older players will be more developed physically 2) older players will have an extra year of playing experience 3) older player will be more acclimated to a faster pace of play. The good news is that colleges are still tied to the school year cycle.
So the big question to all is that does the calendar change really matter your daughter at this age group now or do look for a squad with more girls graduating the same year. I can see the change impacting the younger levels but we are at point now the may rather play with girls graduating the same time.
4:14 I agree I don't think it matters for the kids,but the teams are a different story. U14 teams moves up to u16 that is the big difference a team in f1 now that stays together with half 02s might never see a top flight again.
I think the key effect of the change to birth year might be more players trying out for multiple teams.From there the ball is in the hands of the coaches to choose. Then the trickle down happens, players either getting first, second, even third choice of teams.Only advice I'd give is dont try out with a team that you have no chance of being happy with. Waiting, especially given the player will be joining their HS team, may not be so bad.
Merry Xmas all. In NJ spring EDP preliminary flights, Wall promoted to D1, Boca, Copa and Spurs relegated to D2.
As clubs pick teams, they will definitely give consideration to the kids who are born 8/1-12/31. In most cases those kids will have spots, especially if they are coachable and the parents are not trouble makers.
Merry Christmas ECNL! The best league.
Merry Christmas to all this morning. May where ever yourself and family members travel today be a safe one and the memories of this Christmas be great ones. And may all you dads get at least one present you really want.PL Parent
Does beating Penn Legacy count as an official gift? If so, sign me up Santa.
Now there's some Christmas Spirit. Not sure if the elves can gift wrap that.
I don't think boca will be relegated, they beat us and many other Division one teams in last year. Division one parent
Agreed. Boca's play really improved as the season went on. Even when behind they kept working the ball whenever possible and not just trying to clear it. Seemed like they had a good coach.
Boca coach may be a fool in that regard, but he does do a good job as a coach. They entered into a tough league last fall and started out taking some big lumps, but steadily improved as they went deeper into league play. That's the sign of a coach able to keep his players heads up even after some tough losses. They will be even stronger this spring.
10:16 maybe that's true but If I amto believe this board - why would players for NJCSA NPL if Boca is such a good place? That tells me the opposite.My late gift to this board as we wait for the Jefferson listBelow are the top 2 flights and how the teams did using Jefferson pt scale for every game played.Championship35 - FC Virginia ECNL U1428 - Cincinnati United16 - Penn Fusion ECNL09 - NJ Wildcats Averbuch-NPL09 - Penn Legacy09 - Tri-State FA Elite06 - Braddock Road YC 01 Elite05 - Calvert-Elite SC CREW WhiteElite32 - Midwest United FC Royal32 - World Class FC '01 ECNL23 - 1776 United FC Xtreme23 - Bethesda SC Express ECNL 0122 - PDA Ajax21 - CFC Arsenal Sky16 - PWSI Courage 01G Red14 - STA Morris United NPL 0113 - FC Carolina Alliance Green13 - New York SC G0113 - PA Classics Academy 0113 - FC United Academy12 - Cleveland FC Royal10 - Maryland United FC 01-ECNL09 - YMS Banshees08 - PDA North NPL Dragons06 - Richmond United ECNL U1405 - Carolina Rapids 01 Burgundy G05 - NJ Crush FC Tsunami 01 NPL00 - NJ Wildcats Galaxy
Thanks for the list. Need to correct the Wildcat standings. They were last in their bracket last year with six goals given up, Tri State and PL. Although hard to say what team was better since it might have been the worse conditions we will ever see for a tournament.
A little misleading as Wildcats, Tri-State and Penn Legacy all finished with 2 ties and 1 loss to FCV in their 3 bracket games in F1 last year at Jefferson Cup. All 3 finished with 9 bracket points. FCV won bracket with 3 wins and the other 3 finished tied with same record. It was a torrential downpour for some of the games Saturday and a mudbath Sunday. Agree as bad as ever seen.
Not to misleading. PL loss to FCV 1-0 and Tri State loss to FCV 2-1, while the Cats got thrashed 4-0. Only the ponds that they played in kept the games close for the Wildcats. But your list may be correct as the Wildcats are a much improved team as shown at Bethesda.
UGH, can’t believe we might get stuck playing the same teams again, girls are not getting the wide-ranging experience they need at this stage. However, you are what your record says you are, strongly believe that, so we can only blame ourselves. However, that is really no fun at all, so I will blame everyone is was slightly better in the wins department, but that is about it. We still are the best team, with an average record, and I for one, will accept that.P.S. My daughter has been juggling since last week, not breaks, she is up to 35,000, no drops.
Unless i heard wrong information PF will be packing for San Diego. Won't be at Jeff Cup.
Manhattan SC Kickoff to miss many top regional teams this year.Surprised why they suppressed their applied list with all these other events for teams to pick from.GPS March Madness and College Showcase 2016 - MA#29 - GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02#96 - CFC NORTH WOLVES U14GNJ Wildcats Spring Kickoff - NJMAPS 2016 SPRING CHALLENGE - NJ#54 - REAL NJSC SOUNDERS#58 - GPS NJ CENTRAL U14GDTS Winter Invitational Girls 2016 - NJTeams with conflicts on Sat, March 5, 2016 & Sun, March 6, 2016East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14Connecticut FC ECNL U14FC Bucks ECNL U14Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U14Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U14Maryland United FC ECNL U14Richmond United ECNL U14CASL ECNL U14FC Bucks 01 NPLBoston Breakers Academy 01 NPLPenn Fusion SA 01 NPLFC Stars of Mass 01 NPLPDA South 01 NPLMatch Fit Academy 01 NPLContinental FC 01 NPL
The list showed points earned at last years jeff cup, and PL, Tri-State and Wildcats all earned 9 points with 1 loss and 2 ties. Unless you are psychic, how do you know what results would have been on dry field?.
9:46 wasn't trying to be misleading - it was last year's results and I just listed them in alpha order - N >> P >> T. I don't think it made a diff where they were listed FCV ran away with flight all others not at same level.Going by Jefferson past events I think most teams should stay in the same flights I'm sure some teams that didn't play last year replacing others not playing this year. WC ECNL should get a promotion to championship replacing the relegated Calvert Crew - all others should remain the same.Championship usually has just 8 teamsElite has had 24 teams in the past 3 flights of 8They can always go to 12 if they have more teams that fit that flight.
What was the Wildcat results against those same teams after Jeff (on dry fields)???
Since you want to use u13 jefferson results we will need to use all u13 and u14 results0:4 3/15/2015 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)1;2 11/15/2014 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0:0 10/12/2014 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)2:2 3/14/2015 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)2:4 4/25/2015 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)1:2 8/23/2015 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)1:1 8/23/2014 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0:0 3/14/2015 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)0:0 10/11/2014 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)
NJ Wildcats vs Jefferson Cup Championship/Elite teams will show us this team is a low level F1 team if F1 at all.vs Championship Teams u13/142 W5 L2 T-10 GD1:3 - 11/15/2015 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)2:1 - 11/15/2015 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)1:2 - 8/23/2015 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0:5 - 8/22/2015 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)4:1 - 5/3/2015 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)2:4 - 4/25/2015 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0:4 - 3/15/2015 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)2:2 - 3/14/2015 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0:0 - 3/14/2015 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)vs Elite Teams u13/142 W1 L0 T+2 GD1:0 - 11/14/2015 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)0:1 - 5/4/2015 PDA DRAGONS (NJ)2:0 - 4/19/2015 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY
Wildcats have looked much better during the fall season. But on dry ground they did lose to both PL and PF. Have the Wildcats ever beaten either of those teams since going 11v11? I think there are many teams similar in stature to the Cats, BRYC, 1776 and Fredrick of Maryland to name a few. The similarities being those teams have also had games where they have given up 4 goals or more, and on more than one occasion. A team that gives up four goals in a game is one that has: 1. A defense that has bad technique or unsure of its responsibilities2. A coach that does not make good adjustments to the other teams strengths3. To much reliance on a few great athletes and which causes other teammates to get exposed when playing higher level teams.1776 is a great example of all three of these. They can look really great in one game and get smoked in the next.
2016 Region I Champions LeagueElite Red 1. BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)2. 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)3. CENTURY V 0102 GOLD (PAW)4. PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)5. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)6. RHINOS ELITE SC 01/02 (NYW)7. HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)8. LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED (VA)Premier Red1. WNY FLASH ACADEMY WNY FLASH GIRLS 01/02 (NYW)2. VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)3. EUSA EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO (NYW) 4. BEADLING U14 GIRLS PREMIER (PAW) 5. HOTSPURS ELITE 0102 (PAW)6. DMS SOCCER DMS GU14 ACADEMY (NYW)-----------------------------------------Elite Blue 1. SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)2. PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)3. EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU14 (01/02 ) (NYW)4. GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECT (NYW)5. YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)6. UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)7. FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)8. BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW) Premier Blue 1. HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)2. ABBEY VILLA GU14 BARCELONA (MA)3. NORTHERN STEEL ECLIPSE (PAW)4. KIRKWOOD ACADEMY 01/02 (DE)5. TCSC REVOLUTION (WV)6. NORDIC SC NORDIC 14 PREMIER GIRLS (VT)League make UpPAW = 6 teamsPAE = 6 teamsNYW = 6 teamsVA = 3 teamsMD = 2 teamsMA = 1 teamDE = 1 teamWV = 1 teamVT =1 teamLove RCL but with 12 teams from the state of PA and another 6 from NY West - no knock here but NPL much better option for clubs that can.What does this say for the National League? teams like SSS, PL, 1776 and BRYC will play each other every year for a spot in the national leaguewith maybe EUSA putting up a fight, is it the same in other parts of the country?NJ Wildcats did the right thing pulling out of this league - how come other NJ or NYE teams didn't apply? They don't want to compete Regionally/Nationally?
Find it hard to believe Beadling would stay in that bracket. That's a 9 or 10 hour trip to Boston if they play SS. If fact other than playing PL, almost all their games would be 3 to 5 hours of travel. That's a lot of driving to watch your team get thumped.
Wildcats did tie PL twice. PL only beat them their last meeting 2-1.
No, that's not correct. PL also beat them 4-2 earlier this year at the Cats homefield. Wildcats actually had a 2-0 at the half and probably should have won that game. PL was kind of fortunate and scored 4 goals in a span of 15 minutes.
9:50 Good question on why no NJ team applied for Champions League play. It is a lot of travel for one game, so that may have something to do with it. Although the Wildcats only finished with one win in last springs play, most likely would do much better this spring. This upcoming year may be the Wildcats strongest showing since going 11v11.
Ok so in the Spring of U13 the Cats lost 2-4 to PL but a more accurate game to reference would be their Fall U14 game where they only lost 1-2 in the late minutes.They also did in fact tie twice in their meetings. Those scores indicate the teams are on the same competitive level.
Any early Jeff cup flight rumors?
Don't we need to know who applied first? Do you have a list of applied teams?
If I recall correctly, they don't post who applied but they have rolling acceptance starting last summer depending on team's prior resultsFor instance, our team's been in for awhile but that's all we know...
NYSC will be at Jefferson Cup, and I know you are all trembling : )Happy New Year to our fans!
Acceptances will be posted: On or before January 5th for March events.They suppress their applied list for some reason just like MSC does, I guess it's better for business to keep the teams in the dark before they apply on the level of comp because everyone wants to travel to VA to play the same teams every year without being given a choice.
Right on Brother, I love to drive 8 hours each way, the traffic is magical....
Yep, hoping for great NYSC results like at Bethesda!Who doesn't enjoy traveling to Richmond to play a team they play all the time?:)
ChampionshipX-TREME SELECT SC 01/02 SELECT - BLACK (ON)RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE (VA)ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)PDA AJAX (NJ)NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL (ON)RICHMOND UNITED PRE-ECNL (VANJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
Funny that you brought that up, let’s talk about Bethesda, shall we.We should of won that flight, but we had some of the following happen:1. We had some serious injuries to some of our starters, but we should of won anyway.2. It was very cold, and windy, and that always seems to bother us, but we should of won anyway.3. YMS got lucky, but we should of won anyway.4. PAC is not that much better than us, they got lucky too, but we should of won anyway.5. I got a speeding ticket from one of those damn rural traffic cameras, but we should of won anyway.Hope this has helped you understand our perspective, our gift shop is opening soon, want the url?
12:23 Was those last two losses you had to them "on dry ground"? You keep mentioning the ties, which were also U13. A competitive level is when one team beats the other once in a while. Something that your team has yet to do. But yes, I do think your team is improved and will do well this spring. Good luck
Fair enough. Let's see what happens with Jefferson Cup.Hard to gauge when only matchup at U14 was at Spirit.All teams at this level add pieces at tryouts and field new mix of players each year in fall.With Spirit in August being 1st competitive games with new roster each year teams will hopefully be much improved by Nov/Dec and certainly by March.
Top Drawer Top 25 out, NEFC #1, MFA #6, EM, PDA also in top 25. This is a real top 25 IMO, not perfect but a good list.
PAC roster this year seems quite different Not sure what's happening there. Center midfield and defense look strong but finishing is their issueNYSC will take top F1 flight at Jeff cup no doubtUrl have early buy champions jerseys ?
PAC spends too much effort trying to get the ball to one player up top. Works against lower level teams, not so much against better ones. Did NEFC beat FC Virginia this fall? Also, will the merge of NEFC and BB take anything away from South Shore? Or are those clubs geographically so far apart that it doesn't matter?
Sorry but the TDS rankings are a joke, showing a clear bias for ECNL teams. South Shore deserves to be near the top of any list, having beaten Breakers, Match Fit (#6?!) and pretty much everybody else this season. Cincinnati is another team that should be on the list. Even BRYC should be on that list, having tied the #3 team (losing on PKs), and beating Match Fit, Bethesda (#16) and CASL (#18) (BRYC did not give up a goal to an ECNL team over 6 games this Fall). Even Wildcats have a good argument, having beating MatchFit and Bethesda.
Come on now MatchFit #6 in "Real Top 25". Only those drinking your spiked punch is buying that one.
Thanks 11:12, will save one of those shirts for you, its XXXL yes?
11:20, I don't like that lower level teams comment, you are a jerk, and I hope you have fun thinking about teams that you are NOT associated with...
Yes 12:23 but Women's V neck please
After picking up some of PL's current unhappy players at tryouts PAC will be a force next year.
Unhappy PL players? Looking great, what's the dirt?
Yup, looks like PL Parent, formerly from NY, is going to PAC, can they get any better?
That’s not true, we are happy at Pennsylvania Legacy, but if we did move to another team it would be NYSC, they are the best .500 team on the East Coast.PL Parent2
It's very true and it's more than a couple of players. PAC will be the team to beat next year.
Still waiting for PL dirtPL parent 13
Which daughter's yours 12:50?
PL parent has expressed frustration several times on this board regarding coaching and club issues so not exactly surprising but don't forget about the BYC. Most teams will be changing anyway. So who cares really.
all those looking for PL dirt, keep in mind half this team is 01' who are going to PAC. 02' have a different plan.....
Most teams are 50/50 01 and 02Must be club issues
They're all going to PU to play under whacko coach Kosta!
I have been on here stating frustration with PL's doctrine that is passed down to its coaches, but the coach does do a good job with the cards he is dealt. Knowing that as a coach, you can only have limited impact due to PL's substitution policy, could make it tough for any coach to stay motivated. Next thing you know you start showing up 25 minutes before games and the girls are warming up themselves for 20 minutes. PL as a club does many great thing for parents. They will scholarship players that have parents struggling economically, they have moved entire yearly payments to the following year for some. Their goal is to simply have kids play soccer and will bend over backwards to have kids do so, the level of soccer played is not a major concern. Which therein lies the problem for those that want more. A PL U17 girls coach recently pulled his team out of Jeff Cup without informing the club or more importantly, the parents. Naturally the parents were incensed when they found out and wanted to know why, and also asked a PL director to remedy the situation. The coach informed the parents that there really weren't many east coast college coaches attending at Jeff, so it wasn't worth the time, informing them they would do a Legacy or Classics tournament instead. PL officials refused to address the issue and offered no remedy. Situations like this will make some think twice about returning, for non ECNL players need every chance to receive any exposure they can get. PA Classics is right next store and its director (Steve Klein) is highly regarded and involved at all levels, especially on the boys side. He was truly awesome when my son was there. But on the girls side, do they offer anything more regarding exposure than PL does? If they had a DA program, I'm sure those teams would full of great players.Lots of tough decisions coming up, but really looking forward to this spring watching the PL girls play, and hearing you guys and gals talk a little trash and beat up each others thoughts. Have a good New Year GuysPL Parent
To be honest yes. PAC has a better coaching staff and takes their teams to all the high level tournaments. Did PL go to Bethesda? PAC did. There isn't an issue of whether they will go to top tournaments/college showcases. Just need a few more top players to make the move. Im sure there will be more top PA players who will choose the commute to PF but is it really necessary? Not sure but any who do will have to be ready to give up time and lots of money.
Back to boca, we have played them, they beat us twice. Close games though. I am not sure about the parent coach, but they did, looking at game history, have a much better October and November, than September. I also see they played that 4th match in each tournament on Sundays for last one year at least. Making it to that 4th match is key if you ask me. They seemed to begin to really play well since last November in top bracket play in Tuckahoe starting Nov 2014. The reason I talk about them is we are local to them, and when we play them they find a way to win. I also see they beat the barons a couple of times, one time a shut out. And TSF looking at history. They will not be relegated from what I see. Division one parent
EDP - I have an idea for you guys - you are probably the only league this would work for since you also have many tournaments. **Re-Structure your league to 11 teams per flight (min 10 games)**Forget Pro/Rel - move to GS Rankings by a cut off date your last tournament of the season and use them to set your flights.**More Teams will play in your eventsfrom outside your league as they willsee it as a big GS payout - which will makeless travel for teams in the league.**Who cares about the ECNL and RCL teamswill play their State NCS for the USYSA branch anyway -you can try to make your open Cup a direct qualifier to US Club national Cup.**Your NPL teams can play 4/5 crossover games per season fall/Spring to get them their 8/10 games instead of 2 divisions you can have one table Just some ideas - belowis what your top 4 flights would look like this spring.EDP CHAMPIONSHIPGS#06 NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPANGS#18 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)GS#19 NJ WILDCATS GALAXYGS#20 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)GS#30 SJEB '01G NPLGS#37 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUEGS#38 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)GS#41 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLGS#47 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)GS#54 REAL NJSC SOUNDERSGS#56 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01EDP ELITEGS#58 GPS NJ CENTRAL U14GGS#73 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPLGS#74 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)GS#79 CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREW (MD)GS#83 TSF ACADEMY 01/02GGS#84 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONGS#95 PDA SHORE FUSIONGS#107 HFC READY '01 (PAE)GS#122 DENVILLE PREMIER SOCCER LIGHTNINGGS#150 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)GS#173 MERCER FC SPURSEDP PREMIERGS#180 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)GS#186 BEACHSIDE SC (CT)GS#191 SDFC SAMBA GS#196 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)GS#204 LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE)GS#209 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)GS#219 HBC SPARK (NYE)GS#230 WALL SC WAVEGS#241 FC BERNA LEGACY 01G GS#247 THISTLE COMETSGS#254 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE)EDP CLASSIC 1GS#272 HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNINGGS#277 STA MORRIS UNITED 01GS#284 NHP WILDCATS LADY JAGUARS (NYE)GS#287 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)GS#288 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)GS#291 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL (NYE)GS#293 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)GS#305 PERFECT TOUCH SA G01-02 (NYE)GS#311 STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOTSHOTS (NYE)GS#372 QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE NPL 02 (NYE)GS#387 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA
I agree. Most teams will be changing. Who knows what teams will look like next year. There will be more girls than ever trying out at several different clubs this Spring because of it. I just wonder how these clubs will hold tryouts this year. In the past, some hold tryouts as early as late March and others not until May. If that stays the same I think we'll see a lot of players attending others team practices sooner than later to get looks.
Youth Soccer should also have a tryout pyramid - ECNL can't until May. butthey should be the first - if they want to be the top of the PyramidMarch - Should be ECNL tryoutsApril - Should be Elite team tryoutsMay - Should be Premier tryoutsJune - Should be Town/Classic tryoutsThis way all players can tryout for a spot at the top and if that doesn't work out they can move to the next level and so on. I'm just filled with ideas today.
Crush would not play if that is the division
5:01 Your idea has merit. But many would consider it elitist. There will always be a few classless parents will do what has worked for the last three years. Go to tryouts with their current team, tell everyone they have no plans of leaving and then leave for another team and make sure its to late for their current club to replace them.
4:13 By highly competitive, do you mean that highly competitive PAGS league? That must be where your team learns to play other high level teams and why your team does so well in tournaments like Bethesda. Have to admit I'm kind of jealous that our director doesn't put our team in PAGS, we have been wanting to play that perennial powerhouse Warrington Bombers for years.
12:25 How would you like me to classify teams that are less skilled than your team? If you are an F2 team and the other team is an F4 team, would that be considered a lower level team or less skilled? As soon as you get out of your pottery class, let me know.
6:28 That makes zero sense.
Must've got coal in his stocking this year.
It's okay, many people never can see the forest through all those frigging trees
2015 Tournaments that had a F1 with a max GS score of 10,000 with the order the teams finished inBethesda Premier Cup Girls - 2015Girls U14 Potomac 10,00012 +9 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 9 +1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ) 6 +3 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA) 6 +2 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD) 4 +3 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 4 +1 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)4 -1 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ) 3 -2 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ) 3 -6 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 2 -1 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 1 -4 CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL (ON) 0 -5 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) -----------------------------------------------2015 WAGSGirls U14 Cup Flight 10,00015 +9 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)11 +3 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA) 9 +7 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC) 6 +2 OAKWOOD SC (CT) 6 +1 FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL) 5 +1 TOTAL FUTBOL ACADEMY TFA ELITE 01 (OS)4 -1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)3 -3 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 1 -3 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)1 -5 CREW JUNIORS ELITE (OS) 0 -8 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)------------------------------------------------2015 Spirit United Kickoff ClassicGirls U14 Championship 10,00035 +4 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA) 23 +4 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA) 19 +4 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 17 +1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE) 13 -1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)15 +2 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 12 +0 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) 10 -3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ) 8 -2 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 4 -5 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 3 -5 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD3 -7 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE) -------------------------------------------------2015 NPL FinalsGirls U13 10,00015 +15 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)10 +8 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)7 +1 FC PORTLAND ACADEMY-01G-ECNL (OR)7 -2 PDA NORTH DRAGONS 01 NPL (NJ)5 +3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)4 +1 ELITE GIRLS ACADEMY MAROON 01/02 (NE)4 +1 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)3 -2 EAGLES WHITE (CAS)2 -1 OKLAHOMA FC OFC 02 (OK)1 -4 FC ALLIANCE 02G NPL (TN)0 -8 FC VIRGINIA FCV AUFC NPL '01 (VA)0 -12 BATON ROUGE BRSC 02 G BLACK (LA)--------------------------------------------------2015 Annual FC DELCO Players CupGirls U13 Championship 10,00043 +9 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA) 33 +4 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)28 +2 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)20 +4 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)14 +0 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA) 13 -1 WAZA FC EAST 02 JUNIORS (MI) 11 -5 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 10 -1 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 9 - 1 CREW JUNIORS ELITE (OS) 6 - 4 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL (PAE) 5 - 3 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD) 2 - 4 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA) -------------------------------------------------2015 NEFC Preseason Tournament Girls U13 Gold 10,00030 +5 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (MA) 28 +10 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)18 +2 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT)17 +12 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA) 9 -4 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 (NH)7 -2 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)4 -14 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 (RI) 2 -8 FC BOLTS CELTIC GU13-GREEN (MA) --------------------------------------------------2015 Jefferson Cup Girls Girls U13 Championship 10,00036 +8 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 27 +7 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)16 -3 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)6 - 2 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA) 5 - 3 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)9 - 1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE) 9 - 1 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS) 9 - 4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
deep man deep....
Thanks for posting the teams and how they finished in each tournament. But PA Classics wasn't listed in top ten for Bethesda. They spent a brutal fall battling through a tough PAGS league in preparation for Bethesda and even blew off the PAGS playoffs to be there.
Jefferson Cup order is incorrect as 3 teams tied with 9 points should be ahead of Calvert with 5 and BRYC with 6.
8:47 you sound like an angry PAC hater, which post pissed you off? If PAC is so bad why point out how bad they are? Results take care of that right? Must be a PU parent or Kosta himself....PL parent? Many of you posters here need a life of your own and stop living vicariously through your daughters
75% of the posts on this board are junk. You just have to laugh it off and picture the ignorant weenie sitting there writing it. It helps, trust me :)
So how about a New Year's resolution?"I will use this post to uplift the sport for my daughter and her future and I will find a hobby for myself"Happy New Year!! :)
This board is not about uplifting iyr daughter's sport, our daughter's do that on their own and uplift our spirits by watching them and the amazing things they do. I believe almost everyone on here uplift's the sport by the time and commitment they put in and how much they care. This board is nothing more than is opportunity to exchange thought's about our daughter's team and possible knowledge about other soccer related issues. Part of the fun of this board is the smack talk that goes on during the season and after it. If you think your conversation on here is in some way "uplifting the sport", then you are indeed a pretentious ass. The administrator has created a great board for all to speak and has given a pretty free latitude to all. Any "uplifting" related from anything on this board is simply a gift in the form of a laugh or chuckle, which many of the people on this board have the ability to cause. I know you only want to debate about "real" soccer issues plaguing our precious sport, but 365 days of listening to your mundane responses gets old. If posters want to talk smack to each other, so what! Some of us find it amusing, and if not, we simply scroll down. Keep doing the awesome job of taking your daughter to soccer practice and games, its one uplifting thing for the sport you can do.
I agree 9:02, well written, and borderline profound. Here is my uplifting thought for the day, no more talk about Pennsylvania soccer, how’s that??There is a new board just for them, whypennsoccersucks.com
9:06 that's the kind of post that makes ya laugh. And i'm a PA guy.
Love it!!!Lazy yet emphaticMust be NJ or NY
Some people are entertained easily.
9:06 and NJ/NY seems like everything outside of PDA is horse and pony show in NJ. At least I can say PA teams have many strong Non-ECNL teams playing at high levels. Interesting fact since I'm not a GS guy but if you short top 25 in region 1 on GS I see 9 PA teams in the Top 25 comparable to 6 in NJ and 3 from NY. So I think PA has a lot more talent players around in my point of view.
and some people have a soccer ball stuck up there ass....
"their" assWhere's the U50 English class blog for NJ/NY?
You guys are way too defensive, and grammatically correct. I for one, have much respect for the people of Pennsylvania, they have really cool trucks, and at the hotels, at night, some of them really know how to get a tournament started...Yehaw!!!
11:13Nice. I might of ritten that comment two, but i think its pretenshus too correct other peoples grammer. Even if there from new York.Bye the way, I think that might of ben the crazed wile cat mom who talks two the offishuls the hole game.
WoooZaaaa! NJ soccer is the best at least look at what Rutgers has done.
blah blah blah...Don Imus already talked about this...
WoooZaaaa! Look how many US National players have been produced from NJ.
WoooZaaa! Oy vey! Less than NY
Jeff Cup brackets are out...NJ Moms FieldNJ Wildcats Averbuch PDA Dragons As far removed as possiblePDA Ajax STA Morris United As far removed as possibleNJ Crush Tsunami NJSA Galaxy As far removed as possible
Using the top 2015 GS tournaments with 10,000 pts and converting everything to 6 = Win3 = Tie1 = per goal up to 31 = shutoutand then taking an average to make it apples to applesAVG - (Tournaments) - Pts - GD - Team39.0 (3) 117 +38 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA) 37.6 (3) 113 +21 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 32.5 (2) 65 +9 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)21.0 (1) 21 -2 PDA NORTH DRAGONS 01 NPL (NJ)19.0 (1) 19 +2 OAKWOOD SC (CT) 18.0 (3) 54 +16 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA) 18.0 (1) 18 +2 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT)17.2 (4) 69 +4 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL (PAE) 16.5 (4) 66 +1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)16.0 (4) 64 -2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)15.0 (3) 45 +3 TOTAL FUTBOL ACADEMY TFA ELITE 01 (OS)15.0 (1) 15 +1 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)14.0 (1) 14 +1 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)12.9 (5) 64 +1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)12.0 (2) 24 -1 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 11.5 (2) 23 -1 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD) 11.0 (1) 11 +1 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ) 10.5 (2) 21 +1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 10.0 (1) 10 -1 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 10.0 (1) 10 -1 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 9.0 (1) 9 -2 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ) 9.0 (1) 9 -4 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 (NH)7.2 (3) 23 -16 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 7.0 (1) 7 -2 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)6.6 (3) 20 -6 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)6.5 (2) 13 -6 CREW JUNIORS ELITE (OS) 4.0 (1) 4 -14 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 (RI) 3.0 (1) 3 -5 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD3.0 (1) 3 -7 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE) 2.0 (2) 4 -7 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)2.0 (1) 2 -8 FC BOLTS CELTIC GU13-GREEN (MA) 0.0 (1) 0 -8 FC VIRGINIA FCV AUFC NPL '01 (VA)0.0 (1) 0 -8 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)Merry Christmas and happy New Year
I couldn't find the brackets. Can you share? thank you.
1:14 I think that post was part of the continuing PA vs NJ entertainment...
Couple points, PA is a bigger state than NJ so it's pool of players is larger. Also, the ECNL clubs in the Eastern part of the state routinely have NJ kids on their rosters. PA has great players, but the history of soccer in NJ for the size of the state and the history is unmatched. On a somewhat related note. People wonder why NEFC has such good teams, it's player pool. That club is just much bigger than the NJ and PA Clubs. Now with their merger with Breakers, their pool just got huge. ECNL needs to watch that. Consolidation will both help and hurt the game and the development of players. There is an arms race and a lot of anxiety right now. ECNL could be pushing clubs to expand with consolidation in smaller geographic footprints and not by grabbing players from 100+ miles away. They want clubs to have PDA like complexes or better and it's easier to do that with local consolidation.
by State(Teams in F1) - PTS - GD(13) 183 -2 PAE(11) 143 -20 NJ(10) 245 +53 MA(10) 177 +6 VA(9) 64 -18 MD(2) 37 +4 CT(2) 20 -2 NYE(1) 9 -4 (NH)(1) 4 -14 (RI)17.2 (4) 69 +4 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL (PAE) 16.5 (4) 66 +1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)12.0 (2) 24 -1 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 10.5 (2) 21 +1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 3.0 (1) 3 -7 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE) 21.0 (1) 21 -2 PDA NORTH DRAGONS 01 NPL (NJ)16.0 (4) 64 -2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)15.0 (1) 15 +1 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)11.0 (1) 11 +1 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ) 9.0 (1) 9 -2 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ) 7.2 (3) 23 -16 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 39.0 (3) 117 +38 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA) 32.5 (2) 65 +9 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)18.0 (3) 54 +16 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA) 7.0 (1) 7 -2 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)2.0 (1) 2 -8 FC BOLTS CELTIC GU13-GREEN (MA) 14.0 (1) 14 +1 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)11.5 (2) 23 -1 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)6.6 (3) 20 -6 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)3.0 (1) 3 -5 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)2.0 (2) 4 -7 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 37.6 (3) 113 +21 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 12.9 (5) 64 +1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)0.0 (1) 0 -8 FC VIRGINIA FCV AUFC NPL '01 (VA)0.0 (1) 0 -8 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)19.0 (1) 19 +2 OAKWOOD SC (CT) 18.0 (1) 18 +2 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT)10.0 (1) 10 -1 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 10.0 (1) 10 -1 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 9.0 (1) 9 -4 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 (NH)4.0 (1) 4 -14 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 (RI)
11:39 Don Immus? The fact that you are listening to Don Immus makes anything to say irrelevant from this point on. Isn't Immus like 75 years old? he wasn't even interesting when he was young.
1:56 Sorry but your point is invalid PA East is much smaller than all of NJ. AS the quality if PA players only stretch as far up as Lehigh and as far West to PAC & PL to Southern Philly. The assumption many forget is that they pull players from Delaware and SJ. As for NJ they quality players from the entire state from Up North, South and Shorelines. So it's a valid point that both areas are producing players now, just look at the number of Players being pulled into the national pool.
2:44 makes a good point. Even Penn State, which could easily select players from western PA, goes into Ohio(2) instead. 16 of their players are from PA(8), VA(4), NY(2), Conn(1) and NJ(1). They do have one player from western PA, but the rest are all from State College and into Eastern PA. Is there a similar separation NJ, NY like there is in PA?
Keep making fun of EDP - Like I said if they play their cards right they can play a major part in the women's game. GREAT WORK don't forget PRO/REL keep an open pyramid!!!!!UWS NEWS RELEASE: Wednesday December 16, 2015UWS to Form National Pro-Am Women’s Soccer League in 2016East Brunswick NJ – United Women’s Soccer (UWS) is pleased to announce the formation of a new pro-am women’s soccer league, sanctioned by US Soccer through USASA, which will commence its inaugural season in Spring 2016.In addition to providing a platform for some of the nation’s best female talent, the UWS plans to promote the women’s game to younger players, gaining a fan base that will help grow support for women’s soccer not just throughout the USA and Canada, but worldwide.The league will begin an open application process within the next few weeks. UWS has appointed EDP as administrators who will oversee the application process from interested parties, as well as the marketing responsibilities and day-to-day operations.EDP President Steve Shilling said: “We’re extremely excited to be playing a part in the formation of UWS. This is an important component of the soccer model in America, and in particular for advancing the women’s game. UWS is the perfect complement as it completes our progression from pre-teens through to college and beyond. With the founding members as a solid base, we look forward to working with other adult women’s clubs around the nation.”UWS is pleased to announce the addition of eight teams in the East and will now focus on adding a West region for play in its inaugural season. The clubs listed below have all been a part of the founding operations to date. League spots will be designated to aspiring second division clubs under US Soccer who meet predetermined criteria relevant to developmentally-appropriate standards of facilities and infrastructure.New England Mutiny – MANew York Magic – NYLong Island Rough Riders – NYTSF Academy – NJNew Jersey Copa FC – NJLancaster Inferno – PALaval Comets – Quebec Canada *Quebec Dynamo – Quebec Canada ** Subject to Canadian Soccer Association approvalUWS Board Member Peter Zaratin said: “Having participated in a similar league in the past, the Long Island Rough Riders are excited to continue to play our part in the advancement of the women’s game in this country by providing a platform for the nation’s talented female players to perform and progress.”EDP will be facilitating schedules, disciplinary procedures and are welcoming interested applicants to contact EDP Executive Director of Operations: Jen Marcella (email@example.com) for more information.About UWSUnited Women’s Soccer (UWS) aspires to be a national second division league under US Soccer divided into regional conferences. The playing pool consists of both collegiate and aspiring professional players providing a platform for the nation’s most talented female soccer players to perform.About EDPEDP exists to offer soccer programs which are professionally managed with player development as their primary focus, and thereby to support the growth of soccer in the United States. EDP seeks to work with clubs that, while competing with each other, are ready to be part of a congenial and mutually supportive group that works together to promote the game and serve the needs of high potential players.
This is doomed to fail, you heard it here first. The ONLY way a female league could succeed in this country is if the MSL creates a female version of their brands, its that simple. The big European clubs all have female teams using their name recognition to draw talented players, we should do the same. Sorry that you copy and pasted so much.
Why do we always have to follow the "European Model"? If we did everything their way we would all have bad teeth and allow elderly women to walk around topless (German swimbods are not pretty). Besides, EDP will never fail, especially since they are headquartered in Brunswick NJ. Only good things come out of Brunswick.
Agreed the Euro-model doesn't work well on the women's side, last I've seen is US women's have dominated the World Cup and Olympics correct? But EDP won't fail there just expanding their league into a older above 18 which is nice for girls that play in college to somewhere to go in the off-season. Similar to what USWNT players do when they go back and play at NWSL(National Women's Soccer League)
ECNL TO become 2nd tier League!!http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/sources-u-s-soccer-set-to-launch-girls-development-academy-in-2017-relegating-ecnl-to-second-tier/
2:34 I know you're dense but you know the Imus post referred to a comment he made a few years back about the Rutgers lovely long haired ladies...he was only like 70 back then so there...
6:34I think most of us suspected this was coming...hence the need for BYCGood news for girls, shame it wasn't sooner...
IRONIC"The federation’s leadership may have felt compelled to create their own league in light of the keen rivalry between US Club Soccer, the sanctioning body of which the ECNL is a member, and US Youth Soccer, the larger incumbent which is home to most of the country’s recreational players but also offers elite competitions like National League and the “premier leagues” of its four regional subdivisions."
Does the dog wag the tail or the tail wag the dog over at US soccer. yikes.
US Soccer Development AcademyRegion1 - Club Listing Boyshttp://academy.demosphere.com/Clubs/index_E.html*** ECNL & Boys DA team - I think these clubs are safe *** Albertson SC*** Bethesda-Olney*** Continental FC DELCO*** Match Fit Academy FC*** Players Development Academy*** Richmond United*** World Class FCMLSD.C. UnitedMontréal Impact FC New England Revolution New York Red BullsNYCFCPhiladelphia UnionNPLLehigh Valley UnitedNJCSANew York Soccer Club Oakwood Soccer ClubPrince William CourageSeacoast UnitedOthersBaltimore ArmourBaltimore Bays ChelseaBeachside SCBW Gottschee AcademyCedar Stars AcademyEmpire RevolutionFC Boston BoltsMet OvalPA ClassicsSoccer Association of Columbia
9:43Curious how you come up with these results/opinions?
Does anybody believe this will have any effect on the overall value of how college coaches look at ECNL teams, and their desire to select players from them? Doubt it, and that is really all that matters.
10:13Wouldn't that depend on what happens to ECNL clubs? I suspect DA clubs would pull from a larger geographic area, perhaps rendering ECNL obsolete?I would think the existing, solid boys DA clubs would naturally bring on girls DA?
9:55 - by looking at the Boys DA teams and then looking at the ECNL Clubs that everyone agrees on that it is the top of the pyramid currently for girls. It is foolish to think these clubs won't be offered a spot - will they accept is another story.*** ECNL & Boys DA team - I think these clubs are safe *** Albertson SC*** Bethesda-Olney*** Continental FC DELCO*** Match Fit Academy FC*** Players Development Academy*** Richmond United*** World Class FC10:03 if this is true a DA is created you can expect all the players that came to ECNL to play at the top of the pyramid to move to the DA club and if that happens you can expect all the top soccer schools to start looking at those clubs. In other words ECNL will become NPL.Did ECNL moving to the top of the pyramid on the girls side stop coaches from going to ODP? No, so I agree nothing will change :)
28 = Boys DA8 = NY4 = MD4 = PA4 = NJ3 = VA2 = MA2 = CT1 = NH17 = ECNL3 = PA3 = NY3 = VA2 = CT2 = NJ2 = MA2 = MDSo I agree 100% with 10:19 - I think the Girls side willhave more clubs from NJ and PA than NY Clubs that can benefit from this not currently in the ECNLwe can easily see1 PDA2 MF3 NJCSA4 NJ Wildcats5 STA 6 SJEB7 SKY BLUE / FC Copa8 PF9 CFC Delco10 FC Bucks11 YMS12 PAC13 LVU14 Albertson15 World Class16 Empire United17 NYSC18 ISA19 Boston20 FC Stars21 GPS22 FSA23 CFC24 Oakwood25 Richmond United26 FCV27 McClean28 BRYC29 PWSI30 Bethesda31 MD United32 SAC
Heard MFA lost their DA on the boys side last year in all but one Age Group.
In PA PAC will likely become a DA and Continental. Talk about shaking things up. The only reason I can see top girls staying on a team like PF with this news is if they want to play HS soccer.
With GS manually adding all events and the PDA event not being re-added below are your year end GS rankingsMA30096 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE23296 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS16227 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/0215491 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL 12406 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL-------------------------------------------------NJ22474 NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN18600 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY16152 SJEB '01G NPL15285 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE14734 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL-------------------------------------------------PAE19171 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES18604 1776 UNITED FC XTREME18314 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F1416980 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL16430 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL-------------------------------------------------NYE15002 NEW YORK SC G0113807 ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL13552 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL13102 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES11133 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL7946 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ-------------------------------------------------VA14507 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE 14388 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 0110878 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED5636 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 015198 LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED------------------------------------------------=CT13311 OAKWOOD SC11690 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT10283 HAMDEN GINGA FC U13 GIRLS10069 CFC NORTH WOLVES U14G7993 YANKEE UNITED FC BLAST NPL-01 BLUE-------------------------------------------------MD12484 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 0111786 FC FREDERICK '0111599 CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREW7295 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL6590 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER-------------------------------------------------
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