11:30 Thanks.We don't have to be the very best team so what you ask from us to prove to you is not our goal.We are doing fine being able to compete with ANY of the teams from the big clubs and qualify and play competitively in the top flights of the best tournaments.That will develop our girls and get them exposure. And our girls are happy and they like each other and the parents are friendly and hang out together and it is not cut throat as our girls and our parents are not looking over their shoulders wondering who will take their roster spot each season.We have 15 players and all play good minutes in every half of every game no matter how IMPORTANT or MEANINGFUL the game is.And I am happy about that and that I have found that situation for my daughter to grow and develop in as a soccer player and a confident young person.
@11:34, that was a mistake. BRYC's top team was in the WAGS tournament.
11:38 and that is somehow wildcats fault? The teams just play the games in front of them.We don't make the rules or influence GS.Other teams from nj are and have been ranked that high when they weren't accurate.
top teams in my opinionI dont care who made finalsCincinnati CupFC VirginiaMatch FitBRYCNJ WildcatsPenn FusionMarylandGBCincinnati team, looked so good.
Good riddance to the parents of the MF npl team that think they are moving on to the amazing Ecnl team. Hope the grass is greener and you earn your playing time.
11:52 didn't BRYC beat MF 2-0 at Bethesda? And didn't BRYC make the finals over MF and lose in shootout to FCV? Other than overranking their own team those ratings are pretty fair from what we saw this weekend.
11:18 - not comparing PAE to any other state. I dont think the PAGS in that actually played the better teams did well. IF YMS would have lost in the 4th flight that would have been terrible. I think the surprise for PAE was Rage winning. Even if it was in the 3rd flight.
@2:40 wrong, BOCA wins! here they come, they have been talking for months on here. next weekend will be there swan song
11:30 - I posted 11:11. My intent regarding the post from last night was excatly the same as yours. low class and uncalled for. maybe you should go back and re-read my lead-in to what i quoted from 7:09PM. - when you read it, put yourself in the shoes of an MF Pre-ECNL parent and apply the intended sarcasm.
11:38 - I would rank Wildcats 6th or 7th in the top flight of teams at Bethesda. Now the final score of games didn't show that but game play did.
11:30 so this post below justifies the racist rant?What is inaccurate about the post below to elicit a racist attack in response?anonymous said..."mf npl did not advance.They won 1 game in B flight.Also finished behind Dragons in npl league".November 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM
"Boca.....just saying" (@6:46PM)Is that the best you can do GAK-ster?Or should we call you -- BOAK-ster?We are use to "GAK is WAK".How about "Boca is Wak".....Naah, doesn't sound right.Maybe.....Boca gets Wacked this weekend, maybe that sounds right.Unless, they bring 11 guest players.
11:58 I was not going by results, I was going by style of play and players.If was going to be unrealistic about levels of play and route for my team. I would have said thisFC ViginiaNJ WildcatsPenn Fusion BRYCCincinnati CupMatch FitMaryland GBI like my daughters team, reality is that are team can compete and tie many of these teams based on our style.My first list was based on style that I was able to see.
12:20 my, my now mathcFit is posing as wildcat parent.Too funny.
yes, clearly trying to duck responsibility for ridiculous past at 11:52AM ranking his MF team above BRYC who beat MF head to head 2-0 this weekend and took FCV to shootouts in finals. Nice try though.didn't MF also tie Binghamton this weekend? 1 good showing in 3 games does not rank you third in that flight.2 of 3 results for MF this weekend were disappointing.can't rank them 3rd of 8 this weekend. 4 or 5 would be fair based on this weekends performance.
The ranking this past weekend purely by records and GF/GA would go as below:FC VABRYCCinyNJ WildcatsMFMD UnitedPenn FusionGBNow everyone can have their own opinions on how the ranking would go. Who played a nicer game. Whose team your daughter plays on. Whose fans are the biggest jerks.
11:12- Wildcats have never finished first in their EDP division. Now that NJX and PDA have moved onto NPL they might finally finish first. Their State Cup title an empty win without PDA and MF as well Think they have won 1 U13 tournament game? 1win in around 10 U13 tournament games? That's a real nice run.
I was there this weekend. MAPS freezing cold, any girl or guy on the fields Saturday between 8-12, wow. give them credit. boca wins, hard to beat them up. that FC Bucks team was very good, had a great striker up front. I don't think they had one or two guests top with boca, that is so common to have guests the tourney allows it, cannot use excuse as winning. I watched boca and gfa finals at same time next to each other, gfa for U14 girls looking good and boca, come on give that little team much, much credit with EDP wins, EDP tourney wins, not this tourney win and open cup wins on and on.
Good for BOCA. People complaining about guest must be from Jersey teams. Bucks people don't know these kids and really don't care one way or the other. The fact that Bucks had 1 sub and played without 5 starters including their best keeper gave some others an opportunity. Does it matter that much? This team has taken its lumps in the pre-ECNL this Fall with an eye on the future. They have talent, just not enough right now. How about a year or 2 from now when Bucks has a legit ECNL team? Will it matter then? Just saying what exactly?
1:15- Exactly right. NJ Top 5 teams all play for MF and PDA. If you exclude them, then Wildcats would be #1. Wildcats, STA, Crush, TSF and Boca.
Wildcats record off gotsoccer site:U13 Tourneys (Spirit, WAGS, Bethesda)1W- 2L- 6TU12 Tourneys this calendar yr8W- 1L - 4T
1:30 - I guess you are assuming girls will come to Bucks. I guess you are basing this on the older ECNL bucks teams. There are 2 other ECNL teams in EPA. Why wouldnt the girls go to CFC or Penn Fusion? Aren't all the EPA ECNL teams close? "They have talent, just not enough right now. "Well according to their record they have not shown it. They have the worst GD at -31 in the league.
Congrats to ALL the NY Cup Gold Flight bracket winners:A Bracket-WC Charlton B Bracket-NYSCC Bracket-EM HOTSHOTZ*D Bracket-MASSAPEQUA ROWDIESE Bracket-INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMYF Bracket-MANHATTAN PRIDE*HOTSHTZ still not crowned, tie against FC Westchester solidifies 1st place.Wildcards:WC HAMMATLETICOLAGRANGELast Spot still to be determined: HBC SPARK, YANKEE UNITED, SABA BROOKLYN all in contention.
1:15pm and 1:33pm- Then answer this question - Why are wildcats now at U13 consistently flighted in top flight of the very best tournaments(WAGS Cup, Bethesda),while MF NPL at U13 is consistently flighted in B(2nd flight) flights of competitive regional tournaments(Stars of Mass, Bethesda)?Now either you are mistaken or your opinion is not resonating with those who are making the decisions of which teams are at the highest level of competition.
2:01 yes, attacks on wildcats are getting more and more desperate.Ignore them as they want to be in the top flights you are in.Sour grapes is all.
I am not assuming anything, just keeping it real. Plenty of talent to go around. GD is irrelevant to them at this time. They don't play to keep the score close or with the back packed bombing balls down the field. IMO they are actually overly unconcerned with results but its their call. They play with 3 backs a lot of the time. They score a good amount of goals. They obviously have their own agenda just like you have yours. Let's talk again in about 18 months.
First of all, the person who won't shut up about Boca is absolutely the former GAKster. Daughter is with Boca now, and the irritating, over-inflated self worth is consistent.But here's the thing about Boca. They're not a bad team. They're not a great team, but they're not a bad team. They're just like every other team currently not named MF/PDA/Wildcats (I'll include Wildcats even though I hate their chest-beating, look-at-me childishness, too). There are so many teams currently ranked between 8 and 30 that could change places with each other 1,000 times between now and the end of it all if none of them made any roster moves. Boca, Atlantic Utd, PDA Shore, Medford, SJEB, NJ Rush, Mercer, STA, NJCSA, Crush, TSF. Let's be honest, they're all basically the same with different uniforms on. Boca has some things that work. But they haven't separated themselves from this pack yet and likely won't. And that's ok. It doesn't mean their girls are wasting their time. But I don't imagine they're going to be getting any better over time as long as they're not ECNL, NPL, or Region1. There's just no draw for talented girls who are leaving one team and looking for another. So GAKster/BOCAster, I know why you're doing what you're doing. Trying to drive awareness of a decent club in hopes that other players may consider you as an option if they're shopping around, but it's not going to happen, and you're just annoying. Embrace what you are. A decent team with a decent group of girls. But you're not going to be taking the world by storm despite what you want to believe. Rant over.
1:36. That would put the Wildcats winning % at around 10%. Keep in mind they are always the higher ranked team per GS. 3 tournaments and 1 win, that's a great run!
2:21pm see 2:01pm.
@2:17 actually a nice rebuttal about boca. agree with all and I am close to boca, not even sure who GAKster is. But I don't mingle much with parents, they are toxic in general. of course usually the pda, mf ecnl and all your claims are very close to correct. I was at the tournament, watched much great soccer. I do believe a persons will to win is hard to fight with, a U13 girls will to win and fight is hard to discount ever
Comment on the MAPS Challenge....that TBAA Strykers team showed well, even thought they did not place, they lost to Boca and Thistle by only 1 and beat FC Copa 2-0. Maybe a team to keep an eye on???
First off MF cannot have two teams in same flight. Secondly this is the last year they use GS points to flight these top tourneys. So your inflated league points get you the call. Please don't deny your inflated points as it is easy to see on line. Take it all day this year because that is gone next year. The top flights will be all the newly strengthened ECNL teams.
All about being in the right spot U14-16. What we have all been saying this entire year..... That is the debate. Where is the best place for you girl.
This is getting ridiculous. Some of these attacking posts are turning me into a Wildcats supporter. Which a month ago I thought would be impossible.The team is good! But they're actually not crowing about it. All the recent posts are in defense of their team. Which you can hardly blame them for. Give it a rest for a while, will ya?
Why is it always "next year" with the ecnl. After we merge teams, after we attract better players after this after that. Same things are being said by u-14s, u-15's etc. Plenty of ecnl teams in bottom div of college showcase tournaments. Nothing special. Its the individusl teams that matter, coaches and chemistry not the label. Put your daughter in the best program you can where she will have a possitive experience. Then sit back and enjoy it.
2:53Correction. Wildcats posted at 5:28 last night how well they did over the weekend and that was better than all of the other NJ teams. It was the first post about the tournament. They deserve the knocking if they come on here boasting.
@1:16 I must agree. That BOCA team has come a long way. Maybe they aren't ECNL but they have consistently been bringing forth wins in tournaments, EDP (although lower bracket) and recent EDP Open Cup games. Those all can't be discounted. Maybe someone has been stirring the pot on here to create some drama with them (don't know GAKster) but in my opinion they deserve some credit for putting forth the hard work. Yes, maybe next weekend they don't do well against those higher level teams but don't discount them for trying. You would be calling them out for dodging competition if they didn't. Stop picking on 12 year old girls and congratulate them on a win.
2:59.Correction, the boasting post was at 5:17PM
You need to go back to November 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM and read about 10-15 posts. That's when the bashing started.
2:53 You should take your daughter there. Where are the Wildcats being attacked? I don't think listing the facts is attacking. All the recent posts have been about results:-Never finished first in their EDP League-Have won 1 out of 9 U13 Tournament games.
Wildcats,Ignore the negative rhetoric, play your game, improve your skills, and win EDL in the spring, that will get you a trip to NPL Finals, and with that the respect you deserve.NYE Guy.
Please don't tell me the Wildcats are now getting sympathy and/or pity. I am going to gag.Not a hater or supporter, just an observer.
"2:53 You should take your daughter there. Where are the Wildcats being attacked? I don't think listing the facts is attacking. All the recent posts have been about results:-Never finished first in their EDP League-Have won 1 out of 9 U13 Tournament games.November 17, 2014 at 3:10 PM"That's not facts, 3:10. That's spin. What's their record and goal differential? Who was their competition? Nothing wrong with being biased, but you could at least man up and own your bias.
3:38, agreed, its more than just facts. As far as being a sympathizer, I could care less, but I do think you guys pile-on too much. Wildcats do not help their cause by responding, ignore if possible. Wildcats are the poor orphans, looking for space at the NJ Soccer Elite table, good luck with that.NYE Guy.
2:01Whay are Cats flighted higher than MF NPL?Because MF teams did not play State CupWildcats are riding the wave of the SC title. Its deserved. But no need to knock MF NPL for it.If they play 10 times it would be 3-3-4.
3:10Today is not the day to bring up the Wildcats tourney recordQuality win yesterday vs a MD United ECNL team that was playing for something.
Not to mention pretty much all their posts are from their self promoting, top teams are afraid of us, we never lose but have a lot of ties but don't lose, and bla blah blah and make sure you come to my extra$$$ training CHOACH.
What’s wrong with you people? I mean, do you actually chuckle to yourself after you make your little posts. There, alone in the dark, in the basement of your Mom’s house, chuc-kle. NYE Guy
3:28 hahaha those are facts1 tournament win in 9 gamesNever won their EDP DivisionWildcat parents very busy today. They are comical and very transparent.
3:41 doesn't every tournament team play for something? Please post the schedule for us to comment on Tournaments.
3:39pm's post is factually incorrect.Wildcats top flighting for WAGS Cup AND Bethesda came out Before state cup title was won, and likewise MF NPL 2nd flighting at Stars of Mass and Bethesda was decided before State Cup was over and points awarded.At least post the facts.You live in an alternative reality.So stop saying you just post the facts please.
4:28- Wildcat coach- You agree with the facts posted in 4:10 posts, right? You have won 1 out of 9 games played at U13 tournaments this year. You have never won your league when NJX and PDA were in them? .
This is stupid, 4:10.2 losses in 9 tournament games. You see how that works? The aim of my posts is to point out how unjust you are being. What is the aim of your posts? What's your point?
reread 3:39pm.Factually incorrect post.State Cup win and points had no bearing on flighting this fall for either team as it came after flights were posted.wildcats record vs 6 ecnl teams at Wags Cup and Bethesda is 1 win 1 loss and 4 ties.
My point is that that have only won 1 game out of 9 and they NEVER won their EDP division. Not sure what part your not understanding?
4:45 another factually incorrect post.Clinched 1st in EDP already at 6-0-0 with 2 games still in hand.
4:13No. Often the third game is just a game vs a team that cannot advance. In this case Maryland United was still alive to advance to a final.Glad to clear that up for you
Bitter and jealous are no way to go through life. Congratulations on your fall season Wildcats. The success of your team flies in the face of the alternate reality some of these people are living in.Keep up the good work, your girls have earned the right to be proud of themselves.
All the New Jersey teams were flighted correctly at BethesdaCant really be refuted.
OFFICIAL Bethesda flights were not out til NovemberState Cup final was in October
I am sure if PDA Storm applied, Wildcats would have been moved to 2nd tier.
Listen, no matter what Wildcats do the one or two bloggers that monopolize the blog with the ongoing hate are never going to cut them a break. So what, they only won one game in fall tournaments. You see ALOT of ties in top flight of tournaments or a 1 goal win because they are playing at the highest level in that particular tournament and teams are fairly even. What about the many other teams that do the same. To talk about how they haven't won a edp division when pda or NJX was in it is just a stupid comment.If you want to split hairs how come pda ecnl couldn't win the EDP cup? Your logic is way off! They should have breezed through that tournament but didn't. That to me is a MUCH bigger topic because they are expected to win and they don't. Seems that people don't like wildcats because you expect them not to do well and they somehow seem to get the results.
5:32 yes and results back up your point.MF ECNL and Wildcats both 1-1-1 in top flight.MF NPL 1-1-1 in B flight.NJCYSA Galaxy 1-1-1 in C flight.Not sure about other jersey Teams at Bethesda.
5:36 you have posted another factually incorrect post.Here below are the Bethesda flights correctly posted on this blog on october 17th.State cup final was 9 days later on oct 26th. Do you just make this stuff up or what?Anonymous said...Bethesda Flight Guess with preview if flights are as below:Looking forward to Cincinnati vs MF game result winner winsthe bracket.FC Virginia my favorite to beat on pennFusion for the other bracketCINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)=================================== Harford in a good spot to make final.NEFC vs MF NPL is my game to watch in this flight winner wins flight not just bracket.We also get to see PA's 1776 play some teams we all know well MF NPL & NEFC.EMPIRE REVOLUTION ROCHESTER 01/02 (U12) (NYW)BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL (NJ)WNY FLASH ACADEMY 2014 FLASH ACADEMY GU12 (NYW)1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)=================================== I'll go with Rage since this is a toon up for their Super Y finals in DecemberPA guy said PA Classics is a solid team let's see howthey do against to NYCSL NPL teamsNJ Crush and ISA - my pick is NJ Crush.VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM (PAW)NJCSA GALAXY (NJ)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)ISA 01 NPL (NYE)=================================== The 4th Flight is wide open.YMS BANSHEES (PAE)BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)SOUTH CENTRAL PA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE)PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U13 PRE-ECNL (VA)=================================Anyone else??October 17, 2014 at 12:55 PMAnonymous
Looks like tournament director had flights made out before state cup ended and that was obviously NOT a factor for either team.
based on Wildcats earlier work, no doubt.State Cup just confirmed it.
Wildcat coach, why do you keep responding to this MF NPL parent who can't stand being 2nd banana in his own club and can't handle the success of your team in his own backyard. Used to be the big dog, but not anymore. NJX is gone. Soon top players will be absorbed into MF or PDA ECNL. What happened to the debate about who was going to be the ECNL team and where they would train? How'd that work out for you.
So....take what was already judged by a very reputable committee (Bethesda), add a State Cup title, then add a win over a very impressive pre ECNL club on their home turfMakes little sense that posts would degrade Wildcats, excepting of course the "style" purists.STYLE does often lose. This even at the pro level. Never forget this,
6:20 wasn't that when MF NPL was going to get 8 of their players on pre-ecnl team at U14 and train in Hazlet?Or how about when they told you your 8 on pre-ecnl team would train in Hazlet and the other 8 from old Black Team would train up north and you would only have to make trek up north to 1 session per month. Other than that team would only get together on game day.Is that still on the table?
No best one was DOC would take over training and coaching until U14 when they would combine for pre-ecnl.How is that working out?
MF offering enough by us. You guys have peaked at U13. We get to compile a team of the top kids. We will see where you are with same kids next year..... Makes me laugh that you get so jacked up about winning 1 tourney game against an average team instead of asking yourself what kind of soccer you played. You have officially become the king of kick ball and attack. Will keep you competitive now but come on back next season and let me know How things are..... The short sighted academy. Seems to be a pattern for that at your place. Numbers Never lie.
Boca?Seriously stay off the board.The only people that talk about Boca is Boca.Stop coming on the board to talk about your team.Nobody cares.You are a non factor.
8:11 last year you said Wildcats peaked at U12.
Now THAT is mythology, 8:11MD United far from an average soccer team.And we're not talking about next year.
Give Wildcats credit for playing tough. Other than 3/1 loss to Ajax they have kept every game close. They are tough to score on and should be considered a top 5 team in NJ. MF black had a good showing in Bethesda. Only NJ team to make finals.
8:11 You are correct wildcats will have basically the same roster next year.Other than possibly filling 1 or more of their 3 open roster spots, while you will "compile" players from multiple teams which of course will mean some of your current players will be cut or replaced.We will look to improve and develop the players we have.
None of the nj teams advanced to finals at Bethesda.
MF Black, not a lot of chatter about that team. I'm sure parent bloggers like it that way. Quietly putting something together.
@8:45 actually bucks were complaining about boca having a guest player last weekend
9:45 - Sorry to say but MD United is just an avg team
I didn't think the ecnl had average teams, only elite teams playing in their super-leagues.And if MD United is average what does that say about FCV and PF?Just can't give credit where credit is due.
They play against the best kids in Region 1 every weekend with some resulting tough outcomes. They don't know or care about some random guest player at a November tourney. You're looking to prolong a non story. You should be happy you won and move along.
No the best thing about MF is still to come. For another fee we will give your daughter technical training during the winter. What type of training did you get for $2500 during the season? Been there done that, get out now people. They cater to the players they deem exceptional or elite and all the others keep feeding the machine. Ones that leave will be replaced by girls who really think they made something big, when its all about you replacing funds
Looks like GS has updates and teams have moved to show a little more accuracy.
FCV is a good team. PF is just an avg team
10:40. MF black advanced to finals in Bethesda. Keep scrolling all the way down to the 6th or 7th group.
MF Black lost the final - to an NPL club - or you;d have read more about them here
Got soccer will be more accurate if they manually enter pre ECNL and NE NPL Fall results. My top 101. PDA Storm2. MF pre ECNL3. Wildcats4. PDA North5. MF NPL6. STA7. PDA South8. Crush9. TSF10? Could put about 4 to 5 teams in this spotThis is how I would rank the current U13 NJ teams based on Fall results. I have a sleeper team that I think could move into top ten by then end of Spring...PDA Shore Fusion.
The only change I would make is PDA South ahead of STA. Other than that I agree.
I haven't seen PDA North, STA, or TSF, but I agree with the relative positioning of the other teams.
Has PDA North done enough to be ahead of MF NPL? Has PDA South fallen that far? Has STA been consistant enough to be a top 6 team? Have the Wildcats done enough to be ahead of the ECNL teams? Where would NJSCA stand?
"FCV is a good team. PF is just an avg team "PF is 3-1-1 against PDA pre-ECNL, MF pre-ECNL, Wildcats, MF NPL, and PDA South. Are the top teams in NJ "just avg" as well?
Problem with ranking is not enough head to head and where do the "points" come from?PDA north- has gotten better but needs to relax as they really have not beaten anybody that they lost to many times. That being said they have not lost to a bad team either.MF NPL- same thing. Not beaten many top teams but have not lost and only gave up 2-3 goals this Fall.Wildcats- tough team but got all their points by beating STA and Calvert once. 15K plus point for just beating those two teams. But have not lost to many teams.PDA Ajax has lost to these teams and would be slightly behind them.STA- do not believe belongs in the same group with the teams above based on results.Think that puts all of them somewhat level to each other, no?Can we now move on?
9:03 All fair questions-PDA North finished ahead of MF NPL in league play. Could easily flip them-PDA South with loses to MF NPL and PDA North drops for me. I was 50/50 on PDA South or STA-STA- 2losses to Wildcats but otherwise solid. Beat WC ECNL team in final of Aug Tournament.-Wildcats are listed behind both NJ ECNL teams.-NJSCA could be one of those teams at #10. Had a hard time overlooking that bad lose to MF Black.Just one Dads opinion based more on Fall Got Soccer results and League Standings.
There will be a lot of movement with GS points once the fall 2013 points fall off and the fall league games are added. The one wildcard is will GS points be added for NPL teams in the fall. The standings are based on a full season.
PDA North has very few if any quality wins - and may be placed a tad high in your ranks. But nice work. Thanks.
STA doesnt need me defending them, but they beat TWO ECNL teams since late August and have not stumbled in NJ vs any team nipping at their heels in the ranks (losses to 2 pretty good NY teams and Calvert aside)Havent solved Wildcats yet - and cant be faulted for not having faced MF or PDA more often - DID tie PDA Storm in the one key test.2-0-1 vs ECNL - that's legit.
9:30 - sorry your facts are wrong.PF's record against those teams is 2w-3l-1tNo NJ's top teams are not avg. I agree with most on the board that PDA and MF are the top of NJ, possibly of the NE region.
Agree with 9:30am -Wildcats thought FCV slightly best but PF and Md were both very good.Certainly on same competitive level as PDA Storm and MF ECNL in NJ.Great skill, size and speed all over the field on both teams, with quality depth all the way to 18th player.
I think you are conflating PF pre-ECNL and PF NPL.PF pre-ECNL beat NJX (now MF NPL) 2-0 at DelcoPF pre-ECNL beat PDA South 2-0 at SpiritPF pre-ECNL lost to PDA pre-ECNL 0-2 during fall pre-ECNL seasonPF pre-ECNL beat MF pre-ECNL 2-1 during fall pre-ECNL seasonPF pre-ECNL tied Wildcats 0-0 at BethesdaThat's 3-1-1.PF NPL lost 0-1 to PDA South during fall NPL seasonPF NPL tied MF NPL 1-1 during fall NPL seasonI don't know if PF NPL has ever played PDA pre-ECNL, MF pre-ECNL, or Wildcats.
WC ECNL is the very bottom of that league.... Not sure what that program will do at this age for next year unless the recruit like crazy.
PF NPL lost to PDA North in fall NPL.
Right. PF NPL has a W-D-L of 0-1-2 against that proposed NJ Top 10.But PF pre-ECNL is 3-1-1 against that Top 10. I was just wondering how that can be considered "average".
Anytime you have to use a team or league to see how your team stacks up then that league or team is the "standard" and by definition better than the team or league that needs the comparison to legitimize their value.non Ecnl leagues will compare themselves to ecnl leagues.ECNL better.Wildcats will always justify their valve based on how many ecnl teams they tie or beat. Ecnl teams are better.when a team or league becomes the standard of measurement, then they become the better team.I don't think Matchfit parents are saying, "we need to beat this wildcat team" in order to see how good we are.On the contrary, most are holding their nose , knowing that the game will be a ping pong direct physical match and they hope no one on their team gets hurt.Parents cringe playing these style teams because they know its not the "beautiful game"When you hear parents say big and tough and physical, it code for we will hit, hit hit. The more skill you acquire, the less brutality you have to employ.Don't get me wrong, soccer is a physical first to the ball game but that should be a compliment to a very skill full on the ground game that players have to find away to maneuver out of tight spaces with great passing and significant foot work.
PFThe only thing that matters is that your team only tied the Wildcats this weekend. Therefore by definition you are average.Stop confusing everyone with all this wins and losses stuff!
10:47 can't leave them alone can you
So basically Wildcats in same exact place they were one year ago. Weak State cup aside what has improved?
All I know is wildcats were in same flight as MF ecnl in delco and bethesda and by tournament rules and tiebreakers finished ahead of them both events.No one is arguing ecnl overall strongest league, but that doesn't mean every team in that league is better than top teams in other leagues.And certainly nothing to justify being ranked over wildcats.Game would be a toss-up clearly going by results vs common opponents.Funny to see you are rationalizing why you won't match-up with us because we are too physical and you might get hurt.Just know we are ready to matchup anytime.Talk is cheap and anyone can throw out insults on an anonymous blog without having to back it up.We take on all comers, win some, lose some, but duck no one.
The difference is the ECNL teams are grinding more against better talent every weekend in their league where the EDP is notably weak. No grind in that league. At this age all of these "top" games are a toss up to some degree. Again, which path is best for next level? Constantly playing tough teams or circling 3-5 big games a season on the calendar and just because game is a tie you claim you are as good now. Isn't it about the quality of soccer played. It will make a difference moving forward. See both academy clubs history versus the other programs..... Tough to knock.
MF Pre ECNL and Wildcats set up a scrimmage please.The sidelines might be the best part.
well then since you have all the big ecnl games all the time, your results should be better in tournaments
There are weak pre ECNL teamsWhy do we have to keep reminding you of this?
On the contrary, most are holding their nose , knowing that the game will be a ping pong direct physical match and they hope no one on their team gets hurt.Parents cringe playing these style teams because they know its not the "beautiful game"When you hear parents say big and tough and physical, it code for we will hit, hit hit. The more skill you acquire, the less brutality you have to employ.Don't get me wrong, soccer is a physical first to the ball game but that should be a compliment to a very skill full on the ground game that players have to find away to maneuver out of tight spaces with great passing and significant foot work."Bravo well said! We too cringe, every time our team plays the wildcats. We hold our breath that no one gets hurt.
Plenty of tough games vs best teams each season is you attend top flight of 3 tournaments per season as Cats do.ecnl teams don't attend nearly as many tournaments (see storm) so it all works out.all 3 top teams playing plenty of competition.Only way to decide who is better is to matchup on the field.
How about if wildcats promise not to slide tackle or head the ball?
As usual so focused on the present. What is next step? It is coming. It happens at U14 every year in girls soccer.
Your girls are too rough, Waa, Waa, Waa.Good luck with that in college.
Having just seen them this weekend, Wildcats are not as physical as MF NPL or PDA South.And MF NPL and PDA South are not nearly as physical as PWSI, Penn Legacy, or PA Classics.None of the pre-ECNL teams are particularly physical. Maybe World Class and Penn Fusion are the most physical.You can try to smear them all you like, but it just isn't true that the Wildcats are overly physical.--PA Guy
Match Fit ECNL - PHYSICAL, yes.
Leave the Wildcats alone. They are doing what they need to do in order to compete with the ECNL teams. They won't play the high level teams in EDP or where ever they play during league games so they have to rely on tournaments and lots of them. That is why they play 50 games per year and that is how they will get Got Soccer points. The PDA and MF B teams will not go this length to play the top teams. NJX is finding this out now. They used to play 50 games a year and play all of the top tournaments(and get lots of GS points) but not anymore since they joined MF. So you can knock Wildcats but they are doing the only thing they could do to stay relevant at the highest level. At least give them that credit
We too played the cats this fall and loved it! Big, physical, yep but not dirty. You crybabies better toughen your daughters up fast! Soccer is a contact sport. Its only going to get more physical. Learn to give it back or take up ballet.
I think it actually gets LESS physical as players get olderAs players learn to move less awkwardly within their gameplay, when to pull up, when to go in.Doesnt make it any less intense.
Should add: when to CONTAIN a player rather than go in immediately on a tackle.
Match Fit ECNL - very physical team.No one from MF ECNL and Wildcats are going after each other.Only people starting this is NPL team. NPL and Wildcats do not get along personally.Has the Wildcats even play MF ECNL before?
MF pre-ECNL did not strike me as overly physical when I saw them. Tough? Sure. I think all of the teams discussed on this board have tough players. But I think World Class pre-ECNL is much more physical than MF pre-ECNL. Maybe compared to the other pre-ECNL teams MF is considered very physical.
Yes, and a lot of good all the physical play has done for World Class, not. It's not about being tough, it's about being disciplined, and smart.
No MF Pre-ECNL and wildcats have not played.I would agree both those teams respect each other.Yes, there seems to be bad blood from mf npl towards both wildcats and mf pre-ecnl and agree they are the parents behind most of the attacks on both of those teams..They used to be far ahead of wildcats and they are all from same area so naturally they resent wildcats recent rise and higher ranking.They also have an understandable resentment towards MF pre-ecnl as they are now B Team in their own club.Must be hard to swallow for a team that was recently considered among the very best in region and is now playing in ECNL Clubs B League and B Flights of top tournaments.
2:52 you must not have attended any high level D1 college games then.Not for the faint of heart and much of the banging is not called as closely as in club.Just look at the bodies of the players on Rutgers or other players at the programs in the major conferences .They are beasts and they lift like crazy to get bigger and stronger to take the pounding at that level.
3:38I know it may have taken you a while to be able to take some potshots at World Class, but lets not be unfair - this team has been quite unlucky with personnel of late.
For the record again. Another Wildcat attack prompting a response. Not a problem at MF as it is a process. What must kill you more is you have NEVER beaten them.... Do you really think there was that much of a difference between those flights? There wasn't. We play other ECNL teams in friendlies all the time and perform just fine. Drop the bashing. You are just as good as many but not better until you knock them down. And even then, not much matters at U13. The question is, have you chosen the right path to development for your daughter? Nobody has that answer and nobody will until later on..... I will take my chances with my proven academy.
How quickly they forgetSpring 2014 EDP champs - in a league with Natch Fit and East Meadow and CFC and Crush and NYSCChin up, World Class
"I will take my chances with my proven academy"Nobody is saying you shouldntYou can do so without commenting on other clubs in a negative manner
No one from the NPL team at MF cares about the Wildcats or the Pre-ECNL. Hate to burst your bubble. Do you really think we can't turn in our gear and say thank you but we are going in a different direction to MF? You are absolutely insane if you think we can't. We can move at the snap of a finger. And we just may! Most parents do not care about this ECNL or npl stuff. We just want to see our kids compete at the highest level possible and have fun. I have personally never heard anyone comment on the Wildcats or pre-ECNL team in a negative way. Please stop trying to cause trouble with us. We play who is in front of us and our girls give it their best. Hope your daughters do the same.
No. You cannot just move.It has to be a near unanimous vote to do soPlus you need to have somewhere (with a trainder and FIELDS) to move on to.It is an option to scatter, surely.
Yes. Everyone has the right to move and can move. What do you think this is, JAIL? These Soccer people do not run our lives. Remember that. So what of you lose 1 or 2 players. You have no idea.
4:03You think club games are called "closely"?Wow.Such awkward movement that referees are often at a loss on whether or not it is a foul. Thus they often let a clear obstruction or a clip at the heel from behind or a blow after the ball is gone just GO, without whistle. It's downright dangerous at times in its carelessness.Had one referee this weekend that called it proper - and the parents were all up in arms......"what was THAT call?"....since they are so accustomed to not hearing whistles on so much of the foul play.
I think that what most parents consider as "foul play" is not actually fouls at all. They start screaming anytime a girl goes down, even if the kid tripped on her own feet.
4:03.The ball movement of many D1 schools is fantastic.Can your team do the same.Yes college is physical but they move the ball very well and the technical skills are on display for everyone to see.Highschool soccer is by nature very direct and physical with little ball movement and technical skill.I think this is a more appropriate example.
Pa Guy- Pa Classics is physical? Have you ever actually seen them? Most are under 5ft and under 100 lbs. They may have 3 at most that are somewhat physical. Lucky for them they didn't play a team like YMS this season. They would'nt have stood a chance just based on the size difference alone.
6:24 hasn't watched much college soccer either I guess.If you can get recruited to UVA or Stanford, or a few others, than you will be playing with a team with "fantastic ball movement".Most of the schools, including all time best womens program UNC play very direct and get the ball forward as quickly as possible and then press you in your own end.
7:08Are you sure you don't have them confused with 1776?Most of classics girls are indeed over 5 ft and muscular.
Actually Id compare 1776 to Classics as far as size. Again, with the exception of about 3 maybe 4 players, Classics is a small team and not very physical. 1776 who also mainly consists of small players is definately the more aggressive of the two.
7:53Huh, Maybe they grew a lot since you played them. Daughters team played them just a few weeks ago and my first thought while watching them warm up was how tall they were. Defiantly not comparable to 1776. But yes 1776 is much more physical. I'm sure next time we see 1776 in the spring they'll all be 3-5" taller too. It's that age.
What happened to PF? They went from winning everything to never winning. They seem to tie a lot which isn't necessarily bad but sure are struggling to get those W's! Did they add too many weak players?
7:43Funny you should mention UNC. I have heard Anson talk about how he likes those "tough girls" who will knock you around. BTW, there is 1 Jersey girl currently playing on that squad. Anyone want to guess what club she played for?
7:43You should go watch the Rutgers team play sometime. They are right in your back yard.The coach of that team is extremely technical and demands the team to play out from the back and play the ball up the field in quick short passing sequences. You will triangles of support up and down the field.They play a 4-3-3 attacking style. very rarely will you see a ball over the top unless it diagonal pass right to the feet of their left or right forward.I agree with the previous poster. your example of how the girls play are more akin to high school then college
8:23.I would not be comparing u13 soccer to any D! program.Besides its tough and extremely technical not just tough-No?
rutgers does knock it around very well.Those that do are the exception on the college womens side though.From your comments it seems you learned your soccer from the mens side but it doesn't translate very well to the womens college game.first of all most high level mens soccer teams whether top D1 programs or the European League teams or even the national teams play variations of the 4-5-1/4-2-3-1, they only have 1 forward in your defensive end to pressure your 4 backs so of course you have time and space to knock it around freely.they are more concerned with getting numbers back behind the ball and not getting strung out on Defense as on the men side that will get you punished as it is very hard to disposess those players and they can play 40 or 50 yard driven balls and counter quickly and accurately if you push numbers up to press them in their own end.On the womens side the skill level is much lower and long ball service along with defensive heading is very poor compared to the mens game.therefore most womens college teams play 3 forwards and press you high in your own end.With the many poor clearances and poor defensive headers/clearances 3 forwards up high means you have players nearby ready to pounce on those mistakes and create quick counterattacking opportunities and cheap goals.That is why the best teams on the womens side often win by lopsided scores of 5 or 6 nil unless they are playing one of the other top 15 or so programs. You don't see that nearly as often on the mens side in conference play among the big schools.There are a lot more fast athletic girls out there then there are highly skilled girls so all but the best programs who have their pick of recruits from the youth national teams find it easier to compete by recruiting speedy, athlectic girls and playing high pressure and try to limit the chances of making mistakes themselves in their own end by not playing around too much in their own back end.
PF is still a very good team and will be great again. Scoring has been an issue since they played Legacy and their best player went down (it seems a few girls have gone down when playing Legacy). I think you'll see them back to normal in the springtime. I also think that Legacy will have a hard time holding onto some of their top player if club doesn't change its view on where to play. They are extremely fast and physical, yet get to play very few good teams. Rage is the team on the rise boys and girls.
First, sorry but I must correct your ignorance. Watched the PF/Legacy game. The PF player injured her knee as a result of turning awkwardly. It was not the fault of any Legacy player. Second, only one player can score for PF? That's either a shame or again your opinion is inaccurate.
WowWhy not just come out and say Penn Legacy is a chippy team?
To blame a 12/13 year old for causing an injury that disrupts a team's season? Come on! Deserves a defense, especially when pure ignorance is involved. It was witnessed and was clearly no ones fault. Shame on you.
9:37Why bring up Legacy unless you think that post at 8:09 was one of our parents. I hope not. From the rest of the post it sounds like a rage parent who's daughter didn't make your team trying to cause trouble. But even so you can't go insinuating our players are injuring yours or others due to the way they play. 10:08 is right, I was standing right there, little or no contact. The girl planted her foot, turned awkwardly and went down. No foul, and our girls kicked the ball out of bounds as soon as they realized she didn't get up. You should know there are girls on Legacy that play with her elsewhere, who, along with their parents were genuinely concerned for her. I hope she has made a full recovery, I hear she is not only a great player but also just a great kid. If there's going to be a rivalry between these 2 teams, so be it, but let's keep it on a soccer field, between our daughters, not on a blog site. d
What's wrong with asking what happened to PF? Why does someone have to be a raged parent? They are struggling and the question was simply why? Calm down folks. As for the person bringing up one specific incident as to why, that's nonsense, so just ignore!
"Rage" as in the club they mentioned, not raged(adj).
It's a battle of the keystone cops! Hahaha
The club on the rise is Rage? I somehow doubt that.
Rage, could be the first u13 National champion. They at the Super Y Finals in Florida in 2 weeks.Can't say nothing bad about the team. They play Jefferson, WAGS and Bethesda in flights they are placed. They play PAGS and Super Y. Nothing wrong with this team/club. Similar level of play to most teams.
Players from MF NPL and MF Black will be on the move to other clubs when they find out the mess that will be heading their way.I know I'm getting out
Oh, you mean the Super-WHY? league, yes, I see, enjoy the warm weather, and keep dreaming those delusions of grandeur while you knock-bakc those pinacoladas, yum!
And where are you going 8:32, Boca or Crush?
If you are getting out that means your daughter probably should not have been there in the first place. You would not leave if you were going to be on either the ecnl or ne npl team next year..... There will be a fair amount of fall out after these teams are determined. Hopefully the next club is a better fit.
The way things are going, MF Black may be the NE NPL team next season. Players on the NPL team has an option to go back to NJX. Most of the teams out there do not have something to fall back on. The 1-2 players who care about ECNL can try their luck with PDA or MF ECNL and see how far they can get but for the rest, I hear they do not care.
8:42That is a very interesting post.However, I like the exception rather than the rule. As a matter of fact, the powers that be are trying desperately to change the culture of women's soccer.All agree that it starts with the young girl at 7 and 8 years old. Does the trainer promote the old way or do they try to teach the young ladies the value of ball skills, passing, IQ and such. Do they demand their players to find away through feet passing, movement off the ball, and yes toughness to bring the ball up the field. can we take one of those big fast tough players and make her extremely technical with quick thought Or does her soccer education end with "step to ball" tackle hard- get the ball forward.I would like my daughter to be able to be trained in al the facets of the game and I would like her team to play it in a style that shows toughness and great technical skill.I will not pay a coach or trainer for anything less.I have seen that script before and it is limited.
8:33I thought the whole object of U-13 soccer was to play at national events no matter how strong the competition is or isnt. Team bonding and all that. Why criticize Rage for doing just that?
8:32Goodbye and best of luck to your daughter. Their really is not a need to come on here telling your business if you have to stay anonymous saying it.
8:52, relax, just busting chops, good luck to you guys!
"What happened to PF? They went from winning everything to never winning. They seem to tie a lot which isn't necessarily bad but sure are struggling to get those W's! Did they add too many weak players?"Well finishing in the middle of that ridiculous pre-ECNL league is certainly an acomplishment, so I assume you are looking at their GotSoccer page, which has a lot more black and red on it than in the past. No issues that I can see. I don't see any players I'd classify as weak. Indeed, after six months of practice at a high level, I think the new players have largely caught up to the old players.They're just not putting the ball in the net as much lately. Chances are there as always, but they need to put more shots on frame...too many shanked shots and "field goals". They'll figure it out. This team just needs to learn to "show up" consistently for every game. There are no easy games any more.
8:46 of course and no one said otherwise. we ALL strive to get to the highest level of skill we can attain for our girls.Just making the point that if you think womens college D1 soccer is every team playing the beautiful game and building out of the back you are ignorant of what the game is at that level.
I'm going to defend Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL or at least make an attempt since we've been talking lot's of PA soccer recently.CFC Delco played 8v8 last year in PAGS D2 with a W4, T2, L3.So this team had to add players just to play 11v11.You take a PAGS D2 team that neverplayed 11v11 before and throw them into the fire.As expected we have the below scores:0-3 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-4 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-4 FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-4 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-5 Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-5 PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL I can't kill them for this, but besides the 5-0 scores(which could have been even more) not to bad when you look at the other teams. They did better in their other games and were in every game just by the scorelines.2-1 FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-1 World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-1 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1-2 FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0-2 Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLSo when I read posts concentrating on their huge goal differential. What did you expectfrom a PAGS D2 team going against some of the region's top teams. I can tell you this - the team had to play every game at a fast pace and doing this 11 more times in the Springcan only help.Below is theoir GS history for this Year.Bethesda Tournament-Girls1-0 FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)0-1 YMS BANSHEES (PAE)0-0 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)WAGS Tournament 1-1 MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)1-0 HBC BARRACUDAS (NYE)0-3 KINGS HAMMER ACADEMY RED (KY)Spirit United Kickoff Classic0-4 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)4-1 OSHAWA KICKS SC RENEGADES (CND)0-1 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)I am a fan not a parent - keep it up CFC Delco.
One More thingAug-SeptGP10, W1, T0, L9, GF5, GA29, GD-24Oct-NovGP10, W3, T2, L5, GF5, GA15, GD-10You can see an improvement the more they play.
12:17Not ignorant at all -Just appreciate "Joga Bonito."Its part of my culture.We must never justify a particular training style to fit what is wrong with college soccer.Especially at this age, we must strive for technical perfection. No short cuts. Nothing that attempts to win the game now without going through the proper process. Something that is lost on many youth coaches, as they realize, wins brings customers and ignorance is business.I don't blame the business model. I have been part of it in the past. If you would like to see whats right with girls college soccer-please tune into the University of Virginia game this friday.Another exception to the girls college game from your point of view.
NJ top 15 (excluding Rage) with number of events:13 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH12 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 019 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX6 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM14 NJCSA GALAXY7 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL10 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G10 ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE5 PDA DRAGONS12 SDFC SAMBA8 NJCSA ELITE6 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL10 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI12 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA NPL6 MEDFORD SC HURRICANESSo if we took an average to remove the accumulation elementbelow is your GS NJ top 10 2840 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM2185 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX2050 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH1759 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL1745 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 011516 PDA DRAGONS1165 NJCSA GALAXY1155 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL1059 MEDFORD SC HURRICANES1047 TSF ACADEMY 01/02Gwe still need to have November events and 2013 eDP FALL to fall off and League awards posted from other Leagues so this will change again.
Yes, and I agree and as you say I mentioned UVA and Stanford as college teams that do play the beautiful game.but those 2 schools have not only the highest level of soccer programs and traditions but combine that with the highest level of Academic Programs Traditions, so of course they have their pick of the most gifted, skilled, tactically astute, dedicated and athletic soccer players when it is time to recruit.They both have top 5 recruiting classes EVERY YEAR.there are not nearly enough females of that level of skill and quality coming out of high school every year for the majority of the 300 plus Division 1 Programs to play with that level of skill and tactical awareness and precision.What you are touting is a dream, not a reality for most D1 Programs and their coaches."Jogo Bonito" only exists at a very few places on the men's side, and is much , much rarer on the womens side.
1:12 Because of posts like this. If it's not GS points it's wins. Teams will sacrifice learning to play the game for immediate gratification.Sorry for the spelling and typing errorsBelow are PA and NYE top 10's AVG points and the number events following the team name.PA 2039 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK 101888 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA 81659 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL 71348 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT 91320 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK 61184 YMS BANSHEES 111176 FC REVOLUTION FORCE 91169 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 101054 LVU 01 GIRLS 8915 1776 UNITED FC XTREMES 9 NYE 3217 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON 72903 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 72345 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 62202 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL 52069 SACHEM SPEED 41587 ISA 01 NPL 71328 NEW YORK SC G01 81246 MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES 6965 SABA BROOKLYN CITY 8878 LAGRANGE RAGE 8
Then call me a dreamer. I will be in good company!
Below are the final 16UCLAHarvardIllinois State4 Pepperdine3 KentuckyArizona StateRutgers2 Virginia1 Florida StateNortheasternUCF4 Wisconsin3 South CarolinaSeattleColorado2 North Carolina
12:31 - an improvement? Yes because they only play 4 league games in Oct-Nov time frame. CFC played much lesser teams in tourneys. You have them losing to 3 PAG 1 teams, who also had to go to 11v11 this yr. Just like every PA team this yr. The played in the the 4th tier at Bethesda(1w), played in the 3rd tier at WAGS(1w)and at the Spirit (their own tourney) in the 2nd tier(1w)So I think once they get back to league play in the spring the results will be the same.Sorry
1:33 They lost to the PAGS D1 Regular Season Champions 1-0 and to YMS 1-0 another PAGS D1 Post season team.1-0 could have gone either way, keep in mind this is a middle of the road PAGS D2 team last year. So Improvement - YES
As I said this was a PAGS D2 team playing against these powerhouse teams. What do you expect? They won't win a game but let's see if the GD gets better 0-25 in 6 games.Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNLEast Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLFC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNLPenn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNLBoston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNLPDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
You guys may have too much time on your hands.BTW, Sometimes the winning comes BECAUSE of the development not instead of it. This is year 5 for most. If you really want to know who's playing the best soccer right now - this fall(at least by the standards you are using), then go solely by the fall, August 1st till present. Games played a year ago are meaningless now as many of these teams have either added or replaced a third of their rosters after spring. I think you will get a much different list(but it too will be just as meaningless), but it still might be fun to see the difference.
Sorry to interruptPart of learning in sports is attaining the will to compete, the drive for as result.Some players will dribble and pass circles around the masses but wilt like a daisy when the chips are on the line.Just the way it is. All teams need a mix of the beautiful and the incessantly determined. The names of "I will not let us lose this game" types litter our womens national team, present and past, make no mistake...And some teams you disparage here certainly show some of this. While some ECNL rosters could use more of it.Mental portion of the game involved COMPETING, not just team bonding ("Pass the ball!") and unselfishness.Which players have that EXTRA something when down a goal - or when protecting a slim lead? The "beauty" of soccer can quite often take a back seat at these times.
1:50 that is a great post!your points are lost on some who really never played or coached at that level and are just repeating what their club tells them about what is important to make it at the D1 and higher Levels of Womens Soccer.A little knowledge is a dangerous thing in most soccer parents.they quickly become Echoes, oops I meant Experts, LOL.
1:50, words of wisdom Lloyd, words-of-wisdom.
1;50You make it sound like the technically proficient player and the "will to win" player are mutually exclusive qualities. You make it sound like being tough and not having technical skills is some sort of badge of honor.There are quite a few players at this age group that have both and more players that only have one or the other.You seem to make excuses for the players that do not have both.I think you will agree that the players that have only one or the other are inferior to the player that has booth.I have seen this many times before- programs that promote one over the other and put down those programs that are on the opposite end of their spectrum.Give me a program that values both. This is the program for my kids.If my kid follows the coaches lessons, and she is talented, she will be able to play in any system .
FC Copa needs to come out of top 15 after showing this weekend at Maps tourney, sorry guys, way to go to get back up.
2:32, you are out if your mind if you think there are many of those types of players, there may be 1 or 2 per team, if that.
How about a coach who continues to play a player who can not dribble or shoot or has no idea what is going on during the game? And plays 90% of the game and nothing is ever explained or what is expected. How's that for $2500. Or a player that dribbles the ball all the way down the field and kicks the ball out of bounds again and again and again. Like instant replay and nothing is corrected. Great investment for professional training? Then the coach has the balls to say that was the worst soccer he has ever seen. Guess what club?
I give up, what club??
3:14 Is it MatchFit?
No!!!!! It couldn't be match fit? Has to be some other club
2:32Isnt the opposite true?Dont the almighty footskilled ECNL folk pain the non ECNL as "technically challenged"?
Spill it 3:14
Wildcats don't have a player who dribbles the ball all the time and kicks it out of bounds..No ball hogs on wildcats team.They are not talking about wildcats.
I have not seen that type of player on any of the top 7 teams in NJ.
believe they are knocking ex igfa girl now on MF.Player has a rep for not passing ball.
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