10:14 I agree with you on Spirit, I'm sure that will change or maybe we have a Delco vs PDA feud?
Speaking of flights changing 1st Division Centralis starting to look good as well, now they just need to get FSA in. Can't wait to see the finished product and how this MF team does is this their C team or USYSA team?NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ)
I agree ECNL a good option for exposure by the way.Never said otherwise.But I am saying normally college coaches come to watch players who have already shown interest in their schools and programs,and they will go watch them at whatever of the showcases they play in after seeing tape and/or getting a professional evaluation/recommendation from a club or odp coach, especially if they know that coach from previous teams he or she has coached and players he or she has sent on to college or the college coach has recruited in the past years. Point is if the player can play at a high D1 level, they are a well known player by many of the area's college coaches already through club and ODP, etc.The point being missed is that there is not much random identification and recruiting by college coaches.That is more likely if you are a top 50 player in the country(youth regional or youth national teams and all of the top 5 or so college programs are recruiting you)It is much more often the college coaches following up on the players who have contacted them and shown a real interest in that college.the most important thing to do as a player and family is to be proactive and do your research.Make sure that coach knows you have a real interest in their school and program by making contact and staying in regular contact(email,phone, letters of recommendation and resume, academic profile updated regularly,your upcoming club and ODP schedules, getting out to see the college play)and by making an unofficial visit and meeting the coach and if possible attending the high school age players ID camps at some of your top choices to get yourself right in front of the coaches and to develop a bit of a relationship.And make sure you are a fit academically. Remember most colleges admission departments only allow a coach 1 or at most 2 players per year to be considered who are below the level needed to be accepted academically if they were a non-athlete.at many schools these players are called "chips" and are considered for admission through something like a probationary admissions program and they are given extra academic support and given a chance to show they can succeed academically.Not every school allows this and remember these exceptions are usually made only for VERY STRONG players who are considered difference makers for that program and worth the gamble that they may not pan out and stay eligible academically.No coach wants to recruit a player and especially waste precious athletic scholarship money on a player who may not remain eligible.Again suggesting you try and pick mostly schools for your short list that you are at least borderline a fit for in your academic profile.The most common mistake is players and their families not being realistic in their expectations of what level is a fit for their daughters as well as having unrealistic expectations of the amount of scholarship money that will be offered to their daughter out of high school.
Again good advice across the board.Not quite sure the motive for attacking a person for passing along valuable info on a process that is going to be very important to all of us parents very soon.
Sound advice, thanks!
Looks like IGFA got relegated.
Relegated to what, AYSO?
2nd division edp
or maybe they put them in North..
10:44 - When is to early to reach out? Is it ever to early?What do you do, if you don't believe in ODP? My daughter has played for two years and I think it's a waste of time, she will not be trying out this year. I'm not sure how players showcase their talents unless if you are a forward or a goalie. Most players hold the ball way to long ( i guess they are showing they can dribble) and or just kick the ball to open space (I guess they are showing they can win a ball and then play it forward) and hope someone with the same color jersey runs on to it. I am sad that these players are supposed to be the best and by now should know how to play the game. And what saddens me even more is that these players get looks based on coach recommendations. It wouldn't surprise me if they push their player into the region pools as well (wouldn't know because I didn't send my kid to RI)I guess my kid will be a step behind when it comes to her soccer resume.
Too many of the so called "Top Players" hold the ball too long. you think 6-8 touches are going to be available in a high level game. I really don't understand how those are the players being recommended. Any offensive attack is brought to a screaching hault so Suzie can display foot skills while the other 5 or 6 girls are flat footed watching. It is disturbing.
11:32, if you can afford it, I'd keep your kid in ODP. I agree with all you say, and I ultimately think TIP and ID2 will be better training options than ODP. But as you note at the end of your post, coaches do still like to see ODP on a resume. I'm no expert, but because ODP is so watered down (100 taken kids at both U12 and U13; 50 at U14), it almost is considered a baseline. It doesn't make you special to have it, but if you don't have it, it raises some questions. Granted, these are answerable questions, but why raise questions if you can avoid it?I'd say that making state ODP is the baseline, and making regional pool is something that sets players apart. Years ago simply making state ODP set a player apart, because they only took about 24 players. And FWIW, my kid did not make the regional pool, but she did get promoted to the ID field for a day or so, and was one of only about five players from her state to get on the ID field. As her coach was not there, she must've gotten that far based on merit. So it's not ALL politics at regional camp. If your daughter liked it, I'd stick with it.
Where are you finding the EDP brackets published? The website doesn't appear to have been updated since the Spring from what I see.Thanks
11:46 Thanks.That's my problem, my kid said she doesn't want to play for ODP - she's a midfielder and didn't get a chance to touch the ball much and felt like all she was doing was running back and forth supporting instead of playing.I'm not worried about her making an ODP state team, regional well that depends on her time on the field for that period of time. She's a player can use both feet, knows when to pass when not to pass, moves without the ball, supports the Offense and the Defense depending on the roll she is assigned is super fast and has avg size. I just don't want to do a power move on a 12 year old kid. I have to respect her wish. It's just sad to read your post and while most agree ODP is a waste it's needed for that resume.This is why I support Leagues that send their teams to a regional/national event. At least US Club Soccer has it's TIP/PDP/id2 ODP programs. These are id programs and you just hope that they id the right type of players and move them up the system. Yes these leagues are closed but they should follow the standards set by the USSF and if they push the right players they look great while if they push along the wrong players I hope the are punished. I can't speak on this process.Any way thanks for the response.
12:14 are you asking so you can shut it down?
I don't like posting links because when I did or when other posters did those links became disabled shortly after.It's not finalized because they haven't been published, so I'm sure they can change even more.
Can you at least publish all available brackerts? North South Central 1st and 2nd? I'm just curious who's where, who's been added, who left, etc. I know I can wait, but I'd rather just have a peak at how it's all coming together.
1st Division North FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT)BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE (NYE)TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)HBC SPARK (NYE) 1st Division Central JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ) 1st Division South STARZ01 (MD)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G (MD)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE)ESSC/HENLOPEN WHITECAPS (DE)WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER (NJ) 2nd Division North INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ)PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL (NJ)FSC FOUNDATION SC (CT)LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE)SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)SDFC SAMBA (NJ) 2nd Division Central ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ)STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOT SHOTS (NYE)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 W (NJ)WYOMING VALLEY SC (TRAVEL) WVSC '01GIRLS (PAE)NEW JERSEY RUSH HAMILTON WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ)PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ) Maps Elite Division REAL SHORE LAKEWOOD FC CREW (NJ)PRINCETON SA ATHLETICO (NJ)EDISON UNITED SA LIGHTNING BOLTS (NJ)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH BLUE (NJ)THE FOOTBALL OF NJ 01/02 GIRLS (NJ)PISCATAWAY JAGUARS (NJ)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)RAGE FC LIBERTY (NJ)
11:46 here again.I must admit, during any kind of tryout I tell my daughter to be just a little bit more selfish in her play. Part of this is a reaction other kids ballhogging, but I also believe it is not enough just to play solid soccer at a tryout, she has to occasionally DO something out there in order to get noticed.That is why it is much better to have your daughter observed by a college coach while playing with her team. You get more of an accurate representation of the player is all about when they are with their teammates. ODP and the other stuff just encourages kids to show off. Now the good news is that at regional camp many coaches had no problem with calling the kids out on it, and telling them in front of everyone to stop being such ball hogs.
Thank you! I agree, I suspect there will be a number of adjustments before the official brackets get published. Plenty on there that doesn't make much sense. Thanks again.
I differ just a little - the only thing I tell my kid is play the game. You can't control what others do or what level they are at, if they don't make the pass - everybody sees it, if they play slow everybody sees that, if they are a ball hog everybody sees that, if you make or don't make the pass everybody sees it, if you don't finish or finish everybody sees that, if you play the ball to the other team everybody sees that, etc...I tell her you are not playing rec ball anymore you are playing for for the same thing every other kid is playing for. The only thing you can control is who you are on and off the field everything else well sometimes life isn't fair.
12:47 I agree - it's preliminary and I'm sure they are shifting them as they get to the age group.
All coaches are looking for selfish players at tryouts. Fact
You are a dope. FACT.
Real Shore and BOCA in EDP play? Well I guess being devils advocate whatever - good for them, give it a shot, they played jags for a couple years with some success/tournaments, but omg.
If selfish = willing to take a player on one v one, I agree.
I think that's a 3rd division that Boca is in ..
That third division is not too bad with MF, Princeton, Jaguars. good for Boca and Real shore
No one is saying taking on a player 1v1 - that's a must.But seeing the field and passing the ball on to a player making a run instead of holding the ball for an extra 2 to 3 touches and what that player isn't open anymore but they showed their dribbling skills. What nobody knows unless if they were watching is that they missed a golden opportunity to put a shot on net. How many times as that happened? How many times has the players supporting the attack make runs support and not get the ball only to spring back on defense in transition because those extra touches more times than not turn into turnovers. PS. There is nothing wrong with being selfish if you are a forward that's what you get paid to do take the shot or feed the mids so they can feed you back and no in saying not to take on a player 1v1 but there is a time and a place for everything.
PS my keyboard and my lack of grammar skills stink
that's probably a U10 MF team playing up.. the MF way..
2:10 I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!
11:01/10:44 Here again- 11:32 I am responding to your question to me -by the way I am not 11:46 who jumped in and answered the question you posed to me, but I don't disagree with what 11:46 said in his answer, which seems to be based on his previous experience with his older daughter.I agree ODP is absolutely not what it once was and is watered down significantly.there are a number of other programs as mentioned that can all lead to identification and advancement to the regional and national youth pools so I was using ODP as a catch all but any of these ID Programs can get you the same chance at advancement in the youth regional/national pools as well as to the exposure to training and playing directly for college coaches which participation in these ID Programs provides.Remember most college coaches, especially young assistants will sign up to be involved in coaching and training the regional and national teams which gives them direct access to these young players and helps greatly in the recruiting process.I have spoken often to my daughter about this issue and she has told me her position coaching the Regional ODP Teams in Region 2 the last few years has given her a much better feel for who can play for her in the ACC as opposed to watching them play club ball from a folding chair at tournaments. As I stated previously attending a few ID camps as a high school freshmen and sophomore also gives you this same chance to train and play directly for the college coaches of the schools on your short list. IF you do the research on their websites you will find that many of these college programs offer 1 day ID camps , usually one during winter break and 1 during summer so you can drive up or fly in and spend the day with about 40 other high school prospects(most college programs limit the number of these camps to about 40 attendees to allow the 3 college coaches to do all the training and coaching for the day.I know that usually you get 2 training sessions, a session with the strength and conditioning staff, a session on the recruiting process and NCAA Clearinghouse eligibility, compliance and clearance issues, and then games in the evenings with each of the 3 college coaches coaching 1 team each. Of course they will also take you and your parents on a tour of their athletic facilities(always part of any unofficial or official visit).I have referred a number of nj players to these 1 day ID Camps camps and the families told me they learned a great deal in that 1 day about both that particular program and the overall recruiting and college selection process.
I'm bored, so please forgive some predictions before the flights are even finalized.Stars of Mass TournamentFlight i Premiership Blue Bracket A FC STARS OF MASS ECNL NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZNEFC ELITE U13 GIRLSBracket BBOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNLPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXNEW YORK SC G01SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITEGotta go with an all Mass final for this one: Scorpions over Stars.Flight ii Premiership WhiteBracket AA2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED TSF ACADEMY 01/02GWORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTONBracket BFC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITEDALBERTSON FURY '01MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPLPTUSA FC COASTAL IMPACTIn this one I like MF NE (aka NJX) over World Class in the final.SpiritBracket ACREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE) Bracket BFC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE) Bracket CPENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) Bracket DCES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE) Binghamton over Ukrainians in first semi. Penn Fusion over Wildcats in the second.Penn Fusion over Binghamton in the final.EliteBracket APA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE) Bracket BPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE) Bracket CISA 01 NPL (NYE)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE) Bracket DVICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ) Ajax over PHWM in first semi. ISA over Victory Express in the second.Ajax over ISA in the final.
3:01 thanks3:04 I'll play along with mine going off the brackets you posted.Stars of Mass TournamentEM vs Boston in Final - Boston wins coin flip.World Class vs MF NPL - World Class wins coin flipSpiritCrew Juniors vs GB Select - Crew advancePennFusion vs NJ Wildcats - PennFusion advancePennFusion vs NJ Wildcats - PennFusion wins no coin flipPA Classics vs PDA Ajax - PDA advancesHMMS vs JPS - HMMS advancesPDA vs HMMS wins no coin flip
Sorry PennFusion beats Crew Juniors no coin flip.PS. I am still confused how Pipeline gets nod of Ajax in top flight. Regardless some easy point for them.
Is that the WC "A" team in Stars?
Yeah. Charlton is the A team. Hamm is the B.
Yes, the mighty A-team, in the 2nd flight.
charlton probably the best team in the Stars of Mass. They should have beaten Breakers at Delco but had numerous bad breaks. Stars tourney Director did not research these teams.
Yeah, evidently EDP didnt count for much
Ajacks becoming the new blog braggers. Mooooooove over cats.
Dear WC Charlton apologist,Shut up, and stop moaning.Thanks!
go Boca and Real Shore
meeeeeeeooooooooooooooooow kitty kitty!
Real shore has mike Lyons as coach trainer.
(non PDA parent)PDA Storm have won their bracket at ECLIPSE (Chicago), with consecutive 2-0 wins today. Through to the semifinal. Tuneup game tomorrow, semi 8 AM Sunday - likely vs Cincy (OH) Cup Gold or Tophat Gold (GA)Teams they beat today were #4 in Ohio South and #1 in IllinoisCongratulations, PDA!
A win at Eclipse would be nice for New Jersey respect at this age group.Is anything else going on local - tournaments or friendlies this weekend?
Oooooooooooooooow Nutty nutty
Why does PDA have to go all the way to Chicago to play in a tournament, when FC Stars has the best team in the country playing, should that not be the standard that all teams aspire to, to best the #1 team?
The Wildcats aren't playing at Stars of Mass. Are you talking about NJ Crush?
Boston Breakers u13 ECNL
Hahaha, oh I get it, you are trying to be funny.Har-har
The "area" teams come to the PDA tourney. Heading to Chicago, where teams are more athletic than skilled, gives them more experience with different styles of play.
Then why not go to California and play the best teams? The Cal South teams are physical, and skilled.
Congrats to PDA Storm team on very impressive showing in Chicago. Can't imagine what this team will look & perform like at mid-season form. They will be scary great. Haven't even started to peak yet with new/newer players contributing quite nicely already.
U13 Pre-ECNL FlightAlbertson SC U13 Pre-ECNL Boston Breakers Academy U13 Pre-ECNL Connecticut FC U13 Pre-ECNL Continental FC U13 Pre-ECNL East Meadow SC U13 Pre-ECNL FC Bucks U13 Pre-ECNL FC Stars of Mass U13 Pre-ECNL FSA FC U13 Pre-ECNL Match Fit Academy U13 Pre-ECNL PDA U13 Pre-ECNL Penn Fusion SA Penn Fusion U13 Pre-ECNL World Class FC U13 Pre-ECNL U13 Girls NE NPL FlightAlbertson SC NPL U13 Boston Breakers Academy NPL U13 Connecticut FC NPL U13 Continental FC U13 FC Bucks NPL U13 FC Stars of Mass NPL U13 FSC FC NPL U13 Match Fit Academy NPL U13 PDA North NPL U13 PDA South NPL U13 Penn Fusion SA NPL U13 World Class FC NPL U13 NYCSL NPL1. Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-012. Intense Soccer Academy NPL-013. Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-014. Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-015. New York Rush NPL-016. Quickstrike FC NPL-017. NJ Crush FC NPL-018. New York Soccer Club NPL-019. STA NPL-01New England NPLAztec Soccer (MA)Oakwood SC (CT)Bayside FC Bolts (RI)Seacoast United (NH)Global Premier Soccer (MA)Yankee United (CT)New England Futbol Club (MA)Virginia NPLAnnandale Boys and Girls ClubChurchland SCRichmond KickersArlington Soccer AssociationFC VirginiaRichmond StrikersChesapeake United SCNorthern Virginia SCVirginia RushChesterfield United SCPrince William Soccer Inc.EDL NPL - if it's still around, not sure of the lineup google can't help if the info is bad?FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA NPL Lehigh Valley United Maryland Rush NJ Wildcats New Jersey Rush Smithtown Kickers SC SJEB '01G NPLTSF Academy 13 Girls
EDL NPL teams in below EDP Flight? Any NEW clubs?1st Division NorthTSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ) 1st Division Central LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 1st Division South NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G (MD) 2nd Division NorthSMITHTOWN STARS (NYE) 2nd Division CentralSOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)
List guy,Can you make a list of best parents? You know, the kind that don't yell at opposing players, curse the ref. and give dirty stares at other parents, you know normal parents.
or is that asking too much?
Your post makes you an annoying parent. What team are you with? We can start there.
How did Storm do in Chicago?
Gotsoccer shows Storm lost 2-0 to Cincy United which happens to be #1 team in region & Ohio.
I guess PDA has some more work to do.
They have a hell of lot LESS work to do, than say your daughters team, no?
Lame attempt by 942 trying to stir the pot. Storm performed quite well this weekend. Team will takeoff with new premier players added to an already stacked team.
Agreed, I am an out-of-stater, and I have great respect for PDA Storm and Ajax, both quality teams, and the girls on those teams are on the right path, whatever that might be.
10amI would not say PDA is stacked. They have good training and the girls have bought into thier system.
@ 9:49So PDA worked on losing 2-0 more than my daughters team?
12:35, are you really that dense? I am not a PDA Storm parent, but apparently they lost 2-0 to a (very) high level team, one of the top teams in the COUNTRY. Unless your daughters team has done better against that kind of competition you really shouldn't have much to say...and even then it would still make you look like a jackass to attempt to disparage a team for competing at the highest level. Move on.
Very high level.. apparently
If PDA is stronger then the machine is moving right along as has happened with teams before. My only question is. Is all newer players getting significant playing time?
It's VERY expensive..
3:09 "My only question is. Is all newer players getting significant playing time?"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are the new players getting significant playing time, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.
That Storm team is solid. The only issue will be playing time for some. Keeping all happy will be tough.
Looking up at these leagues how can you deny that the ECNL and NE NPL leagues are not better competition than the others. Anybody who says otherwise is truly saying it just because they are bitter they are not involved......
3:12, time for rehab, your post is nonsensical.
NYCSL NPL is supeiror. Do you know how I know this?
Well, I will tell you, my dog told me....
@ 1:42Did they lose or not?
I believe that was already established. How many ways does it need to be said before it sinks into your sedimentary head?
Hahaha, it will never register, it does not compute.
3:44Isnt NE NPL made up of ECNL B teams?With Match Fit that still makes for a strong team. Other clubs - not so much
I am being totally impartial because I don't have a kid on either team. Am I the only one who thinks it's silly that Former NJX is considered a "B" team over Former Jefferson.
5:24 I am impartial as well. I do not think it is silly based on a few factors.Team has been with Match Fit for 3 years. Personally improved every year from the games I seen vs my daughter. this is the only team I see that can play with PDA. Not saying beat, play like PDA
Top 3 teams in NJ bar none are PDA & the 2 Matchfit teams (one formerly NJX). Far drop off after that.
I assume the proper way to look at both teams is that they will both play tough schedules for this year and then next year the club will play mix and match between both teams and make one ecnl team and one npl team .NPL will be for the players not chosen for the ECNL team
They will have to eventually mix these teams up. There are some quality players on the former NJX team that should easily challenge for spots on the ECNL team. Unless having the best possible team doesn't matter.
I have a feeling that the winner in trying to mix NJX and matchfit will be PDA.They will pick through Match fit's carcass and pick up a few quality players
WHy do people get so hung up on the team when playing for a CLUB in a club league?There can be only 1 Pre-ECNL team and at least 1 NE NPL team. The ECNL team will have those letters in the team name and the other will have NPL - Who cares what the old team was - it's basically a new team.The only difference and this is smart on MF part when it comes to GS points. GS is around and isn't going away, so by putting ECNL an NPL in their team names - when GS manually enters the league results and assigns points their teams will accumulate the points instead of GS creating a new team for those points. So MF pre ECNl will get GS points for their pre-ecnl flight league games and so will any other pre-ecnl team. Example Storm won't because GS isn't going to do the research to find out who the ECNL team is Storm Dragons, Ajax or Shore even though us local folks know Storm is pre-ecnl.
If NJX (Match Fit NE NPL) wins as much this year as last there will be little reason for any of the players to join ECNL Match Fit Black - unless maybe they want to visit relatives in Chicago.
PS. It's also smart that they gave the NJX team the NPL designation - to make sure their B team gets top flights.
It's actually backfired. If they were NJX they would be top flighted at STARS.
Ain't that the truth
I could hear the coach on the phone now. DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?
It appears that GS points did not help NJX match nPL get into top top bracket at Stars. Go figure, they are afterall the #1 team in NJ
They are a thuper team..
You guys are looking to much into this. MAYBE FC STARS is just paying back NJ Crush (3rd time), NYSC (2nd time) & PDA Ajax (2nd time) for coming back to play. All 3 of them are NPL teams as well in addition to MF NPL dropping 9,460 GS points in AUG (that's a lot)
The team that just dropped your precious GS points won the state cup and has now beaten top level teams already in friendlies and getting better. Unless you are PDA, you are looking up at this team. Keep trying to knock them. Maybe you can will your kids team to be better.....
No one is knocking them but FC Stars.Last time we checked they are 2nd flight because the tournament people did their research and though they were a second flight team. SO I guess my GS points had a little something to do with it? NO?Or Maybe people outside of NJ think NJ Crush, NYSC and PDA Ajax are better.Will let you know if my kids team can do better in July 2015. Until then enjoy.Your turn.
Crush????? That is funny. Called follow the money with the tourneys. It will all shake out in the end.
Crush is a breather game for those other teams. They can play all their players in that one and still win 3-0......
Well....Crush have done well vs the Mass teams, having handled Breakers in a friendly and defeated South Shore and Stars in other events....Some forget Crush have wins over NJX and East Meadow as well, while making Ajax look quite ordinary every time they play.Division title in NPL for 2013-14 doesnt hurt.Crush's tough hurdle is to get by teams from other regions (Vardar, Cincy teams, etc) and some of the better teams in Region 1 (FC Va, Calvert, NEFC, Oakwood)NJX doesnt play those last 4 I mentioned. Crush does. Take that statement as you like.
Gas up the CrushCopter folks! Gonna be an interesting fall!
Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH! Go CRUSH!
Newbie here. Whats with all the Crush hate? They compete in every game they play and often win and they are consistently placed in the top bracket of tournaments. Leave them be.
You’re not a newbie, if you were, you would understand, HATE=RESPECT.
Crush peeps know the teams they have just played recently...... Not even at the same level as some. Good luck.
NJX over rated
NJX routed Crush in a scrimmage and played mostly subs. PDA and MF on different level. Crush does not have a win over these teams in years! Good luck.
I look on gotsoccer.... say all youw ant about this "riendly" or that....Seems NJX quality wins in last YEAR were1) PDA Storm (State Cup spring final)2) World Class ECNL (Delco?)3) Stars of Mass (last August, Spirit?))Its a very good club, one I have been promoting. But starting with Labor Day we need to see more quality wins.(Match Fit NE NPL - #1 in NJ = NJX, to remind everyone)
If quality wins are judged on what a team does against out of state competition, then I would say NJX is the best team hands down. The other so called top teams in NJ have not faired well against other states. Storm is showing great things as they had a god showing in Chicago.
Stop talking crap and prove yourself on the field crush.
Have to wonder if NJX will bring guest players to STARS.
NJ Crush league standingEDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 = 5th NYCSL NPL SPRING 2014 = 12th NYCSL NPL FALL 2013 = 2nd MATCH FIT NPL league standingEDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 = 3rd EDP LEAGUE FALL 2013 = 3rd 2014 Record (W-T-L)MATCH FIT NPL (9-2-5)NJ Crush NPL (8-5-11)Lets throw in some others for 2014NYSC (9-3-6)PDA Ajax (10-1-8)PDA Storm (13-3-6)TSF (9-2-8)NJ Wildcats (13-6-2)MF preECNL (9-5-8)
More accurately, league play:NJ Crush - 3rd in NPL, of 16 teams (1st in division)9-4-4 record5th in EDP, of 8 teams3-2-2 recordCarry on.
It's getting hot in here.
Crush is not even in the top 5 conversation. Have fun playing nobody this year and having no resources moving forward come U14.
Playing nobody? Put away the bottle. Have you seen the Stars bracket?
EDP brackets fall 2014NorthFSA NavyBeachside SCSABA BrooklynAlleycats EliteTSF AcademyRamapo Valley TornadosHBS SparkSouth Central PremierCentralLehigh ValleyFC Copa LimaNJCSA EliteSTA Morris UnitedCalvert Crew WjiteMatch Fit BlackNj WildcatsHarford FC UnitedNJSA 04 GalaxyJersey Premier FlashcrossoversNJ Crush TsunamiAlleycats Premier
are those final?
4:12 Probably not. Back of the Net seems to think that the Schedules will be released shortly.FSA wins North easily.Central looks interesting - my early season favorite would be the Wildcats. Thanks 3:44 for not putting up the source.
Can someone answer what may be a dumb question? How does the EDL work if the various NPL teams in EDP are scattered across 5 or 6 different divisions? Do they still schedule to play each other regardless of North/Central/South and 1st/2nd Division?
Is that the FSA A or B team?
Who are the NPL teams in EDP?
4:43 I guess they will get around to updating their website sooner or later. I hope they communicate better with their teams.
WAGS Applied List - DO you think Discover can compete with this.Girls U13Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue MarylandAlleycats Soccer Club U13 Girls Elite New York EastAtlantic United Academy - Avalanche New JerseyBeach FC 01G Red VirginiaBeachside SC CT Beachside ConnecticutBeadling SC Beadling White Pennsylvania WestBoca United Boca United 01/02 NPL FloridaBRYC 01 Elite VirginiaCapital United Blue Force New York EastCASL 01 CASL Red Ladies North CarolinaCDSA Glory Elite DelawareCentury V United 01-02 South Girls Elite Pennsylvania WestCleveland FC Cleveland FC Royal Ohio NorthContinental FC Delco ECNL '01 (Masuhr) Pennsylvania EastCrew Juniors Crew Juniros Gold West Ohio SouthCSC Surge VirginiaCUSA Crew Juniors CUSA Crew Juniors 01 Gold Ohio SouthCYA Cougars 01 VirginiaDelaware Rush DE Rush '01 DelawareExpress FC Express FC Ohio SouthFC Europa FCE Force Pennsylvania EastFC Europa Liberty Pennsylvania EastFC Virginia FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01 VirginiaFC Virginia FC Virginia United '01 VirginiaFredericksburg Area SA FASA Impact Elite '01 VirginiaFreedom Soccer Club FSC Premier Red 02 MarylandGreensboro United Soccer Association GUSA 01 Navy G North CarolinaGunston Soccer Club GSC Elite 01 VirginiaHarford FC United Thunder MarylandHBC Barracudas New York EastHBC Spark New York EastHFC Ready '01 Pennsylvania EastHulmeville SC Dynamo Pennsylvania EastKings Hammer Academy KHA Red KentuckyLake Forest SA LFSA GU12 Select IllinoisLehigh Valley United LVU 01 Girls Pennsylvania EastLoudoun Soccer LOUD01G Black VirginiaLoudoun Soccer Loudoun 01 G Red Virginiamako soccer club 01 mako girls FloridaManhattan SC G01 Pride New York EastMaryland Rush Montgomery Warriors 01 MarylandMaryland United FC 01 White MarylandMaryland United FC U13 ECNL MarylandMercer FC Spurs New JerseyMiami Springs Soccer MSVG 01G BLUE FloridaMontgomery Soccer Club Blaze White MarylandMRM Rush Nero '01G (aka Rage) MarylandNew York SC New York SC G01 New York EastNJ Wildcats Averbuch New JerseyOP Fire OP FIre Red Ohio NorthPA Classics PA Classics Academy 01 Pennsylvania EastPA Crew Academy Blue Pennsylvania WestPenn Fusion SA '01G ECNL Pennsylvania EastPenn Fusion SA '01G NPL Pennsylvania EastPHWM SC Pumas MarylandPinecrest Premier 01/02- G BLUE FloridaPremier Angels MarylandPWSI Courage 01G Red VirginiaRAGE FC Premier Freedom New JerseyRage SC '01 Athletica Pennsylvania EastRichmond Kickers YSC U12 G Elite VirginiaSmithtown Stars New York EastSTARZ Soccer Club Power MarylandSTER FC Orange '01 VirginiaSting Sting 02G Brown Texas NorthSting Sting Central 02G (Parker) Texas NorthTCSC Revolution West VirginiaTennessee Soccer Club Tennessee SC 20 TennesseeTophat Tophat 20 Gold GeorgiaTri-State FA TFA Elite 01 Ohio SouthVictory Express SC Victory Express Platinum Pennsylvania WestVienna Youth Soccer VYS Pride '01 Red VirginiaVincent United F.C. Vengeance Pennsylvania EastVSA Heat Blue VirginiaWarrington Soccer Club FC Bombers Pennsylvania EastYardley Makefield Soccer YMS Banshees
FSA NAVY is in EDPPretty sure that's the A
The EDL teams are as follows based on the NPL website:FC Copa Academy (NJ)Jersey United Spartans (NJ)Lehigh Valley United (PA)Manhattan SC (NY)Maryland Rush (MD)New Jersey Rush (NJ)New York SC (NY)NJ Stallions Academy (NJ)NJ Wildcats (NJ)Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)TSF Academy (NJ)We know that NYSC bolted of NYCSL, and I don't think there is Jersey United or NJ Stallions team at this age group. But the question still remains, how does it work when the remaining teams are spread across multiple divisions of EDP?
Fsa In ecnl
That WAGS tourney looks a bit average in talent level. Don't you think?
The pre ECNL FSA is not FSA NavyFSA Navy is #1 ranked in CT. Pre EcNL is ranked #4Sounds similar to MF Black and MF NPL (NJX)
Smart move - there is no need to have the ECNL take over the top account. It's better to have the B team takeover that account. It's about Club not Team and with the B team taking over that account they have a better chance of making top flights since they took over the game log history as well. Smart move. I thought WAGS looked okay, I'll look again.
Well, the pre ECNL coach is a former Irish national player...I wonder if they have a blog up in CT where they discuss which players might move from FSA Navy to "White" (pre-ECNL)
FSA seems like a great club, but that White team was not very good last season, now they are Pre-ECNL
It's just a title folks to get through the pre ECNL season. Once next year rolls around, why would it matter about the b and a teams got soccer points. The ECNL will not need points. Just the letters in the title will put that team in the top brackets amongst other ECNL teams. I really hope these teams start fresh so it can shut up the idiots who love talking about this gotsoccer points thing.
Just trying to figure out the relative strengths THIS SEASON of the 2 FSAs, if that's OK with you.There's a bigger, longer range picture for all of us.But we still like to follow the competition each season.
get over the points already. You will see more and more ECNL \NPL teams not chasing points.
When( NjX/Matchfit NPL) loses their 8000 points in next two weeks and it knocks them down to Number 4 in the state , would they have any chance of getting into top brackets in major tournaments? Also if the pre ecnl team and the NPL team enter the same tournament, doesn't it automatically mean that the pre ecnl team would be in the top bracket while the NPL team has to play in the second bracket?I don't think this is a very good deal for the better players that play on NJX.
What points do they lose and what points stay?
Points earned within a 12 month window are used.example: Once Spirit rolls around and points are earned, last year's Spirit points go away.MF NPL will lose 9,400 points in August, that drops them down to #7 if they don't add any points back.What GS points aren't important now?Storm will drop 8,000 for their State Cup run in September and MF NPL will lose another 2,900 points as well plus anyone else who earned State Cup points in September. EDP points will also go away in September, so PDA Ajax will lose 3,800 plus all other teams. So yes the landscape will change and PDA will have the top two teams in the State love them or hate them - love GS or hate it - it will be around for a long time until something comes along that is better.
The same happens to all teams when their tournaments roll up this season. Points go away. Everyone loses points. Not sure I follow you. So you are saying that the teams that will have more points are now better than them until they themselves lose points. Once again, you are obsessed with knocking the top teams. You can't knock them until you beat them kitty kitty...... Points are for the lower non academy teams. Have fun analyzing GS points this season.
PDA south barely over .500. Good not great. Settle down.
What happened to WAGS??? Used to be a top tourney back in the day. Looks like mostly glorified town teams in this thing.......
Once MF NJX loses those gift points from that fugazi STA tournament that will be a much more accurate measurement as to where they lineup against the other top teams.
Isn't State Cup a good measure bitter boy?? Teams can always play a boatload of tourneys to gain points to try to look better than they really are.... Sound familiar kitty kitty.....
STA looking good locally next weekend. WC, PDA, MF, NY teams, Cedars. good local talent pre-labor day. WAGS is weaker this year, but early?
WAGS is another C tourney where the lesser teams try to gobble up GS points. Let me know if GS points help out much in the recruiting process...... AS someone else stated, 95% of the top kids will be in an academy situation come next year. Then what happens?
Win the State Cup before you speak about where teams teams measure. Only 2 teams can talk about being in the top 3 who deserve it. Eventually PDA and MF will lose major points due to the ECNL. Will that make them any less of a team? Stop hating and enjoy your kids development and career.
meh.. State cup isn't that hard. You can get lucky draws.. then it comes down to one game.
Has your team won it, or did you get upset by Boca?
No recruiting talk here, 9:25.
Like I said.. one game doesn't make or break a team.
It doesn't but you have to go by a teams history and history repeats itself with certain teams more often than not.
What up Njxty nutty
I am loathe re-hash this argument, but someone actually ran the most recent recruiting numbers for ECNL and non-ECNL teams:http://www.d1soccerrecruiting.com/ecnl-and-the-college-recruiting-process-what-does-the-data-reveal/
State Cup's just another tournament.
Yup, just another single elimination tournament featuring, for the most part, the best teams in the state. Dime a dozen.
Enjoy your town team tournament. Long drive to grab points.... I guess that is all you really have now. Good luck.
What's a town team tournament?Wait - actually many State Cup wins are vs town teams, aren't they?All may enterNot exactly an invitational
"An ECNL club is 8.81 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a 2016 recruit to a D1 schoolan ECNL club is 11.28 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a 2016 recruit to a Top 25 D1 school"enough said!Those that think that it doesn't matter should read the article.
I dont think there has been a State Cup at this age group where ALL the top teams played.Maybe that changes this fall.
Again. Wrong. EVERY top team was in this past cup. Now the academy teams will not be in it due to the ECNL schedule. State cup now will not mean as much. Top guys will be out of it. But good luck.
you're wrong Every TOP team was NOT in state cup. MF didn't play.
Oh, good - no ECNL teams. Now our daughters - who cannot walk and chew gum at the same time - might make a Cup Finals. I'm so excited.
Exactly. Without the top 4 teams in the state playing in state cup this year, your team may finally be able to win it.....
Why would the non Pre ECNL teams of ECNL clubs not be playing in state cup, if all they are is NPL teams. There are a lot of NPL teams that aren't associated with ECNL clubs that will be playing. Your NPL may be more competitive than mine, but we're all NPL teams. Don't kid yourself into believing that you're and ECNL team just because you wear the same letters on your jersey.
NJX guy enough already. You sound so bitter. Take your fight to the wildcats. Leave us all out of it
The difference is the depth of talented teams you will play in season. You will be playing top teams in Boston for a weekend. One team Saturday, the other Sunday. Same with PA. Same with NY, etc... Much more talent week in and week out than a regular NPL league. Just the truth....
I am an NJX hater but I have to say, seems like non academy teams that are barking and stirring the pot here......
For the record, ECNL-associated NPL teams only accounted for two of the six NPL champions this year. Incidentally it was PDA at u17 and MF at u18.
So much more talent says you, but at this year's NPL finals on the girl's side, only 2 of the 12 teams in finals from u13-18 were associated with ECNL clubs. To be fair, the two that won were PDA at u17 and MF at u18, but your argument that the talent is better doesn't translate into how it played out.I'm also just sharing truth.
NJX will be at State Cup
The point is they are pounding the entire year against solid talent when some of the non academy NPL divisions have cream puffs for some games. Lot less wear and tear.....
NPL has tightened up a bitEDP North looks a bit soft
FC Copa, NJ Rush, Lehigh Valley, etc.??? Tightened up? Really?
What NPL is that?
Lehigh Valley not too bad a team
Did the below clubs join the EDL NPL? or are they just EDP All in?Alleycats Soccer Club New York EastHBC New York East Pipeline SC Maryland Princeton Soccer Association New Jersey Ramapo Valley SC Tornados New York EastDid Parsipany and NJSA move from NYCSL NPL to EDL NPL or are they no longer NPL?
I heard Parsippany's NPL team fell apart
Njx/ mf whatever you want to call them are not bringing guest players to mass. They are having enough of problems selecting a roster because they are not bringing all of their players to the tournament. Going to be very interesting on their selection
1:44 yeah that's this age group or did it happen club wide? Did MF take a bunch of girls at all ages?
".....are not bringing all of their players to the tournament"This is seriously WRONG. I am not sure how any parent would put up with that.They are actually telling players they have to stay home?The "guest player" statement came about after NJX used guests at Delco (U11), where they lost the final to Hicksville (E Meadow).
Parsippany NPL is listed in EDP second division northNJSA 04 is EDP first division central- dont know if that is final
How big is the NJX FIT roster?
Sorry, NJX has never used a guest player for a major tournament. That was an excuse made by a Crush parent after they were destroyed the day before!
Roster is no bigger than any of the other Academy's.
Are there NPL teams in the second division?
How many players?
Funny - I recall Crush being quite appreciative of NJX after that Delco tournament. And that continues to this day. The wienies were Hicksville that weekend. Would have been great had NJX completed the task.
2:49 That's normal practice these days. The starting "XI" is never the problem it's 12-18 if they dress a full 18 that cause the problems.I'm okay with this, as the girls will eventually tell their parents they want to play more than fight for a spot to be the be on a roster every week. These kids will force their parents to realize they are pushing their kids to much and should chill and let their kid's enjoy. On the flip side their are kids that are driven to be the best and to always move up the pyramid until they are number 1. These kids need this type of atmosphere to always be at their best to move up or if not move down. I don't think there is anything wrong with this. We as parents should know PDA, MF and others will be doing this more than others. Only the best will bring them championships, no loyalty to kids that have been there since u9, no loyalty to a parent that is a friend - it's simple work hard, improve and you'll play as long as you are a team player.That's just my opinion on this, probably the minority.
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