Give it a rest 9:31!Im assuming you are the DOC or coach at an ECNL Club.
My belief is that if your daughter is that good, she will be seen with or without ECNL. The main people in the soccer process have already heard of certain players no matter where they play. So ECNL is a choice, not a necessity. For the majority of good, but not great players, then yes, you need some way in so its a necessity. I also believe that to get the best out of a player, they need to be in an environment that allows them to continually grow with confidence and skill.If practices are so cut throat for playing time on an ECNL roster, then the players are all questionable as far as skill. I'm sure that there are players on ECNL that have no stress because they know they will be rostered for every game. Hence, one of the players that made it a choice to be there, not a necessity.Just the way I see it.
9:31 It was me said she was being double and triple marked. And even though she plays for a non ecnl team, I do believe as you do that ECNL teams top (1-6) player have a distinct advantage when it comes to getting looks after U-15. What I'm not sure of, is how much of a difference it makes for the support players that are important to the team, but don't stand out. Those parents are spending the same amount of money and putting in the same amount of time. As mentioned before, my daughter has a big decision coming up this spring as so many players do. I still think the calendar birth year change should have been started at the U10 level first, instead of an across the board change.PL Parent
To ECNL or not to ECNL. That is the question.Soccer Nut
To make the team or to not make that team. That's also the question.
And if you live in NJ , does PDA offer you an advantage over other ECNL clubs in the area.Soccer Nut
To brag or not to brag.
The answer to the question is really quite simple if you ignore all the hype and work backwards from the child's intentions of what They want to do with the sport at maturity.Soccer Nut
And what mom and dad want to do with their bank account.
You guys are all crazy. The girls are 13 give it a rest with college already. We all know that you reach out to the school go to an ID camp or two and then you let them know where your kid is playing. If there is interest they will come or send someone to watch. If your kid has dreams of playing for NT or a D1 Soccer School then ECNL helps a lot,is it the end all be all - no way but it helps more than it hurts.When you talk top players on a team we are not talking top 3 or 5 we are talking Starting XI. A holding mid gets no love because they don't have to be flash, they don't score goals and don't get assists. But to me it's the most important position on the field, they must support on D and when they get that first pass they need o see the field and start the attack a good holding mid can lead to a ton of goals. Your defenders and non-attacking mids also get no love because they don't have the stats but they are key to a good team as they KEEP the BALL. Sure the goalie and the Goal scorers get all the love but 9 out 10 times they didn't do it on their own.Going back to my point these girls are 13 and still have a lot to learn some are ready now some will be ready in two years and some will never be ready and all of the above is okay. However, they need to be pushed not by the coach but by her team - if she is plays forward in a 4-4-2 is there a 3rd forward that can tap into her playing time? if yes then you are in the right place. is there a 5th or 6th midi/defender than can tap into playing time if you say YES then you are in the right place regardless of team/club/league if not then you are not getting full potential out of your kid. yes they are playing a lot and yes they are having fun for some that is enough but if your kid wants to be and has the tools to be a NT/Pro player then they need to be pushed everyday to be the best that they can and some times that's not fun, but this is for a super small % only and they NEED to learn the GAME how to PLAY not howto WIN.But I am the biggest hypocrite in the world because i love results and hate playoffs.GS 4 life
GS 4 life - great post.Question, I'm new to this board. Do you really love Got Soccer? Or are you being sarcastic? You are a mass of contradictions if you really love GS ("I love results" versus "Need to learn the game how to play not how to win")Sorry if I'm ignorant - just trying to understand everyone's point of view.
Eastern Development Program - NPL Divisionhttp://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/easterndevprogramnpl/index_E.htmlThe Eastern Development Program - NPL Division joined the NPL in 2011-12 with boys and expanded to include girls in 2012-13. The league is administered by MSSL / EDP. Currently, the Eastern Development Program - NPL Division offers U-13 through U-18 boys and girls divisions with the following clubs based in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia:Girls:FC Copa Academy (NJ)Jersey United Spartans (NJ)Lehigh Valley United (PA)** Manhattan SC (NY)Maryland Rush (MD)New Jersey Rush (NJ)*** New York SC (NY)NJ Wildcats (NJ)*** Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)TSF Academy (NJ) *** Playing in different NPLs then we havehttps://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=49080Girls U14 NPL*** ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL*** NJCSA ELITETSF ACADEMY 01/02GFC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMALEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSNEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREYSJEB '01G NPL *** Not listed as member clubs on NPL site, so are they eligible to advance to NPL finals.
11:56 I love my kid and I love the game. GS is a tool that can provide some good metrics. So I like the tool and support the tool vs the nay sayers. I don't have a favorite NWSL or MLS team - my favorite club is my daughter's hands down. So like any sports fan i like to follow and talk about the results of the team I follow and others but that's where it ends and that's my ME thing. As long as my kid is having fun and is in a place that she is learning and being pushed to play the game every day then I'm okay with $$$ it stinks but i don't expect it to be for free as the girls game is not a $$$ sport.Contradictions is the name of my game as I struggle with juggling being a fan and being a Parent. As a parent I want her to learn the game as a fan I want her team to win and that's also the biggest problem with youth soccer playing to win instead of developing and letting the winning take care of itself. A good team will win more times than not.
GS 4 Life
Thanks GS 4 Life. I think all of us struggle with the contradictions of youth sports. You summarized it very well.
My kid gets quadruple marked. LOL
Yes he is a coach at an ECNL club and his daughter also plays there, on PDA Storm.His job is to troll the site and try and sell PDA and ECNL and counter any report that sheds a bad light on PDA.
Complete article:http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/home/897821.htmlCHARLESTON, S.C. (Oct. 22, 2015) - During the preparation of the Players First launch event at Nike World Headquarters in early August, an important adjective emerged.The idea of Players First was always ambitious. With US Club Soccer CEO Kevin Payne steering the ship, though, why wouldn’t it be?“We’re on a mission to change the sport,” Payne said. “In order to achieve our mission, we need a vision, courage, enthusiasm, resilience and a plan. The reason we should be attempting to embrace a Players First philosophy is not because it will be easy, but because it will be hard. I believe with a shared mission, we can accomplish this.” The Players First initiative is ambitious. It’s a holistic approach to improving every player’s experience on and off the field. And the public is noticing.But, how will Players First truly make an impact? US Club Soccer’s mission statement is to “foster the growth and development of soccer clubs…” The clubs are among the most important drivers and implementers of Players First.Stanley Holmes, president of the Puget Sound Premier League, called Players First a “huge first step at reshaping the dialogue and trying to bring some order to the disorder.” Holmes was particularly drawn to the name itself.“When you think about that term, it changes everything in your mind. It’s so clear. There’s no wiggle room,” Holmes said. “What US Club has done has offered the first clear definition of what I think most well-intentioned soccer coaches and trainers want to do anyway – and that’s put the player first… I don’t think anyone can disagree about how important those two words are.Hassan Nazari, executive director of Dallas Texans SC, also considered Players First as a “huge step to change the landscape of soccer.”“By working together and using economies of scale, US Club Soccer can now provide its member clubs access to valuable resources that would otherwise be financially prohibitive to its member clubs acting as individual organizations,” Decker said. “Moving forward, clubs who embrace the Players First philosophy will set themselves apart from others, not because of branding or marketing, but because of the resources, programming and standards they are able to offer their players that will far surpass those who do not.”GS 4 Life
12:37 I have a feeling that almost everyone that post on here has a pretty great player that receives multiple marks during MS ball. Our own competitiveness is definitely passed on to our daughters. Its amazing how those sleepy little things in the back of the car can turn it on once they hit the field.PL Parent
Ok Bloggers I'm a little curious since many of our girls on this blog are either in high school or about to enter HS. How does a Freshman girl commit to a powerhouse university so early - (I know it's only Verbal and a Handshake Agreement) but Grades and SAT scores half to come in play down the line by Jr. year. What about if an injury occurs within the next 3 years as well. Are University at a high risk by offering girls roster's prior to Jr. year. Isn't their NCAA rules in place for this about committing prior to Signing Day. Just read a article from TopDrawerSoccer about a Freshman '01 player on the CASL(U14 ECNL Team)committing to UNC already not sure if anyone reads up on this stuff.
My stab at top 10 not so based some on results so far this Fall, "word of mouth" that I hear on the sidelines & some of what I read in here. Here goes it: 1- PDA Storm2- MF ECNL3- PDA Dragons4- MF NPL5- PDA Ajax6- STA7- Wildcats Galaxy8- NJCSA Elite9- PDA Shore10- Wildcats AverbuchIs this far off?
256 here meant to start by saying "My stab at top 10 based some on results so far this fall, "word of mouth" that...
I would move everyone up one to place PDA Ajax and Shore at 9 & 10
8:13Your a DIK
2:56. I think the list is accurate. Nice Job!
Is 8:13 talking about wildcats Auerbach or Galaxy?
I don't think PDA Shore should be included in the top 10. They have already lost 4 matches in EDP league play this fall.
2:56 I agree PDA Ajax to high. I would also switch Averbuch with GalaxyNJ Crush has to be back in the mix they are in 1st (supporters shield) in their league which includes STA, NYSC & ISA. NJCSA & galaxy are 3rd and 4th in their division behind TSF.TSF & NJ Crush must be in the top 10 regardless of how you feel about them.PDA Shore is in last and has no business being included in the top 10. My Stab at it1- PDA Storm2- MF ECNL3- PDA Dragons (2015 NPL Finals Semi-Finalist - 1st Place in league)4- STA (2015 NPL Finals - 2nd Place in league)5- Wildcats Averbuch (2015 NPL Finals - 1st place in EDP C)6 -NJ Crush (1st place in NYCSL NPL - best overall record)7- Wildcats Galaxy (WAGS F2 Champions but still in 3rd place in EDP N)8- MF NPL (2nd place in league okay at Stars pre-Season)9- PDA Ajax (3rd place in league - I'm close to dropping them)10 -TSF (If galaxy is in top 10 then the team in 1st place has to be also)Honorable mention both teams in NCS the further they go the quicker they jump in top 10 or wecan remove ECNL teams and we have our top 10.NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE ( I really wanted to make them #10)NJCSA ELITE
NJ NCS teams that are ONE win away from joining the party in my opinion - some need to win outright to make claim because of league play others just need one win in my opinion1. THISTLE COMETS (NJ)2. GLOBAL PREMIER SOCCER NJ3. NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS4. SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)5. NJCSA ELITE (NJ)6. NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)7. REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)8. HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNING
3:11 I think you have mistaken 8:13 for yourself
So, was there or wasn't there a hair pulling incident by a Wildcat Aver player? Anyone refuting or backing what 813 posted this morning?
"Got Soccer and US Club Soccer have mutually agreed to end their five year relationship. The impact on teams will be felt most when it comes to US Club Soccer regional and national championships. Going forward Got Soccer will rank these events as any other tournament. They will not be given equal standings with USYSA regional and national events. "We (Got Soccer) have always been uncomfortable with the pay-in versus play-in policy for qualification to US Club Soccer regional events.Going forward any USSF affiliate must conform to the qualification standards used by USYSA. That is, state championships used as qualifying events for regional championships," said Gavin Owen-Thomas of Got Soccer."Soccer Nut
7:13 just makes up stuff out of thin air.As stated he is a complete D--k.
Mr Nut I will assume you didn't look at the date stamp of that comment? That was news 7 years ago. Why would you post that? So you don't believe in the Players First movement?GS 4 Life
Real Sounders and BOCA both in too 10 before either PDA Shore or TSF based on head to head.
Wildcats way too high...way too high.
October 22, 2015 at 4:42 PM: Your 10 ten is fair, You have MF NPL way too low.. I would expect MF NPL would beat STA, Both Wildcats, and NJ Crush 9 times out of 10.I am not sure if they can beat Dragons, but they do play this weekend... I guess my point will be proved if they do something there.
Sorry 10:00 I disagree about Boca and Real - their EDP record us saying they are not top 10. But Real is still alive in NJ NCS and advancing to finals should help their cause - Boca has to many blow out Ls -no way they are top 10.Sorry :(
"That's pretty serious stuff 813, I never once heard nor seen anyone from that Wildcats team do anything dirty on the field. Physical? Yes for sure. The occasional foul on a bang bang hustle play going for the ball? Yep, seen lots of that. But hair pulling? Never."Of course you didn't see your girls do anything wrong Coach
Not a DOC or ECNL coach but have older kids who have been through it.Total urban myth "If you build it (top 50 D1 soccer player) they will come". The unknown kid from the town travel team tears up the NCAA just doesn't happen. First, where do the coaches see her play? Does Virginia come to PA Classics winter showcase to see kids who write them? Nope they do not. They have limited time and budgets and go to major tournaments such as CASL, Disney Sanford, Las Vegas, Sandiego, PDA, Surf and Jeff cup. They also go to the ODP Boca Raton interregional, and USYSA and ECNL national championships. If a kid's team isn't playing in those events then where does a top level coach even see them? Do you think the ACC will come to the Baltimore March mania tournament to see a kid who plays for a PAGS team just because she writes them and says she is really good and they should come because she really wants to go there? Maybe mid majors will come to NEWSS etc and a few upper tier teams like Rutgers and Syracuse or other relatively local school such as in the case of the march mania: Maryland, but the kid has to be seen at more than one event to convince the coaches to even offer her a roster spot much less money. That means national league or ECNL if she will be player 1-5 on that roster she has a real chance of serious money at a top level school. At least get her there by U16 but commits are earlier and earlier each year for girls. Stupid but true.
Are college coaches fools or do they realize that the player of their dreams quite likely does not have access to that kind of team? Do they want to have a winning team or do they just want to be efficient with their recruiting budget?
They want to be efficient with the recruiting budget. That's an easy one.
The college coaches also want to make sure that the kid is able to pay for college. Even she gets a partial scholarship, there still is significant expenses. Most likely, if a player's family is able to afford an ECNL team then they most likely will be able to pay the college tuition. Again - its sad but true.
Your are correct about college budgets 9:04. It is why colleges from the east do not send coaches to western tournaments like the one in San Diego to recruit, unless they have a girl they absolutely know is a sure thing. Likewise, colleges in the west stick pretty much to their own backyard. If you look at the rosters of the major colleges such as UCLA, Oregon, Washington, USC, San Diego State and many more, they have exactly two east coast players. One from NJ and a keeper from NY. Although they do have a couple from Norway, England and Sweden. So why are we doing west coast tournaments that are so costly, especially since the track record shows less than one percent will be considered? Is just to say, "look at us, we take our girls to western showcases"? Even colleges like Virginia Tech and ones like them, tend to get their girls from their own state. I agree with you that the big tourneys are where the girls get great exposure, but it works better for them when its in their region.
918 That's very true statement and with the new player first moto this will open up the window for many. 8:23 your rant proves nothing even though you have been through it things change and evolve constantly and your statement of being in the Top 1-5 is true but what about if your on PDA or another Top ECNL team players 6-12 are getting the same look. And what about those top 1-5 players on a unsuccessful ECNL team their not getting the same looks so it's all comes down to who, what, where but most importantly $$$. Sometimes it's just about how much work a player and her parents do to help her get identified, I've seen many cases were players are recruited outside your beloved ECNL platform. I'm sorry but 'GS 4 Life' does have a point, and if your on that top level team at U16, U17 in GS standings why wouldn't a coach come see a player at a tournament main event. It's a college coaches and staff's job to find quality players for there program not always find them in a system where parents have $$$ to get them their.
Many times it is because college coaches are lazy! They will be at ALL of the top ECNL events but maybe only hit a few of the others. May not be right but it is proven.Also think top 10 on the ECNL teams is closer to the number.....
ECNL is for well off, athletic, suburban, mostly white girls, who love / like to play soccer. If that is not your deal, go ahead and join but it might not be such a great experience.
945 I am not trying to "prove" anything, but am interested in dispelling centrain urban myths that ultimately may result in a worthy kid being overlooked due to a waving cobra mantra of "if we build it they will come". I think I said national league, ODP interregional and USYSA championships they also attend so I am not saying ECNL exclusive, but they definitely attend regularly only the top level competition. For USYSA I stand by my position that Virginia isn't coming to PAC classics winter showcase to see a kid. The competition isn't great enough for them to form an accurate opinion of her. Of course some of my statements are generalities regarding ECNL roster players 1-5. I thought that was obvious. Agreed on the top teams there might be 15 interesting players to the power 5 on lower performing teams there may be 1 or none at all. However regarding lower performing teams, they will get far more looks and are much more likely to attract attention than a similarly performing USYSA team.
Question: Where can I go to see who got a soccer scholarship? I'm not talking about committment. I can commit without a scholarship, right? I want to see who is actually getting these scholarships for soccer.
1030 No way that info is publish people can event get exact cost on club teams as some players receive perks on savings.
You can only see commitments the spreadsheet link was already published. However pretty much all the 2018 and most of the 2017 are getting money if they are committed at this point.ID camps? OK again its different for the mid majors I do think some serious ID happens at these. However the upper level schools have like 90 kids at most of them. They are pre segregated into "watch list kids" and "money grab kids" who do you think the coaches are watching? In fact the "guest" D3 coach they paid to come is watching the "money grab kids" They don't have a chance even if one of them scores 5 goals. In fact the only time going to an ID camp "cold" makes sense is at this age, 8th and ninth, grade to potentially get on their "watch list" to be seen at future major events. The D3 coach might be instructed to send younger standouts up to the "watch group". If her teams isn't going to major events then forget it; again when will they see her?The best use of ID camp goes something like this: Kid plays in a major event. College coach likes her and sends email to club coach that says, I enjoyed watching your team at major event A and really thought highly of #10 super girl. She had great vision blah blah blah. If she is interested in our super school please let her know of our interest and have her call me on my cell to learn more about our program and school. Club coach passes email on to kid, Kid calls school and says I am an interested in your school. College coach (usually assistant or associate in charge of recruiting)says we will be following you at your next event, email us your schedule and give us a call after for an update. Kid does that. Coach says, hey we have an ID camp coming up and a few of our older committed kids are going to be there. Yes they go sometimes to check in or because they already signed up before they committed and the school asked them to come as a gage for some of the other kids to whom they might extend an offer. They ask that the kid come to the camp and check out the program. The coaches put that kid on their "watch" team and they carefully observe and interact with the kid. An offer may be extended at the camp or shortly thereafter if the kid performs. Good use of ID camp money if basically she is invited to come based on their preliminary interest.I don't think its parents of really top quality kids who even support that the myth is true. Its the next tier down who are afraid the high quality kid will leave their kids' team and then they won't even have a chance ay bragging at the water cooler. If you have a kid who regularly is eating up the competition, then look for next year to a club team that regularly attends major events so that your kid will be in front of the coaches.Another myth: coaches never scout teams cold, they only come to watch kids who have contacted them with interest. Again totally not true. From personal experience I know this to not be true. I am not saying they never come to see kids that write to them because they do especially if it fits their schedule and/or the kid has a strong soccer resume (id2, ODP regional team, and of course a national invite guarantees a look), but I am definitely saying that coaches come to games where they believe they might see an interesting kid. Again this happens all the time at national events. They then reach out as I described above. Those games are at national events, are not high school games, are not low level league games and generally aren't even R1PL games though I know some D1 have come to those if they are local. Similarly coaches will drive a couple hours to see an ECNL league game if they are interested in a specific team or kid. Sometimes a coach comes to watch a player who contacted him, but when watching the game sees another who sparks his interest. Its the second that gets the email to the club coach.
10:22It is still about the player and as long as the platform is a good one they will come.First step for any parent is to go to the camp of the college that you are interested in.At the camp, the player will get a good look. If they become interested in the player, they will then come to watch her especially if the platform is sufficient. A high level tournament in a top 2 bracket will do.If during the camp they show no interest, then you will not make their list of players they need to see.If you are not on their list then it doesn't matter if your child plays ECNL or not.For most it starts with the camp. Although I do believe its a money maker for the coaches-as stated before, it can certainly get your daughter on the coaches radar screen. This has been my experience.Soccer Nut
Not how it worked with my kid. ID at major national event, email to coach we like the kid. Kid called to say she was interested, Coaches watch at a couple more tournaments. Offer to come visit extended. Visit completed. Scholarship offer made. No camp involved. Power five top 3 finisher
11:34I do not disagree that that can certainly happen but for most, the child needs to show interest first. Going to the college camp is a good way of doing that and then following up with e-mails with continued interest. If the coach puts you on their watch list, it does not matter if your daughter plays ECNL or not. If the coach doesn't put you on his watch list. It doesn't matter if your daughter plays ECNL or not. I find that major tournaments at the ECNL level is a great way for your kid to be discovered as the coaches are there in plenty and interest can certainly be generated but most coaches for most schools start with the high level prospects that are interested in them.That has been my experience, perhaps my daughter did not garner the attention that you daughter did during her recruiting years.Soccer Nut
While I agree with his comments about ID Camps for the most part, 11:10 is completely off base on his comment about coaches watching club teams cold on a regular basis at showcase events.All major college assistants arrive at their hotel the night before a major showcase and spend hours before they sleep putting together their itinerary for the next day of what prospect plays at what time on which field and using their GPS to map out directions from each field to the next in advance.If they have some free time, which is rare, they might watch a few minutes of a random game but that is the exception, not the rule.Before leaving for the showcase the assistant who will attend the event meets with the coach and they map out which prospects that they have previously identified or that have previously contacted their staff they want to see play that weekend.Please do not put out information that you have no experience with and advise parents to follow your advice.As someone who has been there with their own child I can tell you it is difficult enough for parents without being misled by those who have no idea what they are talking about and come on here advising parents.
Why are we discussing college they are 13/14 years old still. Many on this blog didn't even touch high school yet. I do like the sharing of knowledge. 1134 can you provide more detail on her scholarship was is it partial? more academic?, Full Ride? Did she do ODP or was on a ECNL team? Did her club coach or HS coach help a lot?
11:50 here. I agree with Soccer Nut about ID camps and that is a good route for 90% of players. The previous poster is also correct but only if your daughter is a top 100 national prospect because then every major college coach has her on their radar. but that is the reality for only the top 2-5 prospects in each state on this site,for 90% of the parents on this sites children they need to be proactive and let the schools your child is interested in attending know they are on your short list by contacting the coaches regularly, inviting them to your events, sending schedules and locations of your games to make it more convenient, and attending their ID Camp and also going there for an official visit and making an appointment to visit with the coach your childs freshmen or sophomore year.
Do you guys really think they are watching who scores goals at an ID camp? OMG. Look you guys can say what you want. You pay the kid goes to an ID camp and shows she knows how to play and has the tools. They will either like or they won't. Don't put all your eggs in one basket, is all i have to say. If your kid is a "prodigy" they have a shot at the majors and everybody knows who she is already because of Regional/national pools of players. I'm not going to tell anyone what to do and how to spend their money. For me it's simple.1. kid needs to know what she wants to do.2. kid needs to make a list of schools she would like to go to.3. Parent pays and brings kid to Id Camps on their dime.4. kid emails coaches of the school's she likes with her schedule. They have seen her and is either interested or not.Don't give up, follow the dream - as I said many times some kids are ready now and some will be ready in two years while others will never be ready for that level. Nothing wrong with any of the 3.GS 4 Life.PS. Soccer Nut, you never answered what's up with the 7 year old post knocking US CLub?
1153 On of my older kids was a regional ODP player who switched at u15 to a ECNL team. We didn't understand the whole process and I am trying to share her and her siblings' experiences. This is all first hand information. I agree with the posters who are saying many kids would do well in ninth grade to be reaching out to schools with schedules, interest, and ID camps. I just think that they need to make sure they are targeting realistic programs for them and for that they can use who has reached out to them as an indicator of level and also of course consult their coach if he's experienced in college placement. If he's not see if the DOC will meet with you. 1150 I am not spreading false information. I know for a fact my 14 year old did not write to any schools prior to her first national ECNL event. She played well and we were forwarded probably 20 or so emails from various level college coaches from mid major to 2 who were in the top 10 RPI at the time. According to her club coach, many of those schools had come to scout the team not players. I agree they plan out their days at tournaments carefully but some choices are to see a team rather than an individual player.8th graders should be starting to think about big university versus smaller college, building their soccer resume with ODP (no I won't get into a debate but will tell you ODP opened doors for my kids) and other "ticks" in the boxes like id2 top XI and building their skills so they are on the field a lot for whatever team they play. They should also think about starting to attend a winter ID camp or 2 to get the experience and feel the vibe. Maybe they get on a "watch list" Also watch some college games on the net ESPN3 has quite a few on the replay list. See which colleges fit your child's best style of play. Is she a technical kid who thrives in a possession environment or is she an athlete who benefits from a direct style. This is advice I am following with my last kid after having learned from the older ones' experiences.
So how can these clubs claim for themselves and post college soccer commitments when in reality only a percentage of their roster is getting a soccer scholarship? The other percentage is committing to these college because of academies rather than soccer.
You lost me there, 2:49. Is there something offensive in the link below?http://www.pennfusion.org/girls/97GIRLS/index_E.html
3:04 - Lol, not at all. You look on any club website and Topdrawersoccer site for instance and there's list of commitments so someone who is new to the scene and trying to get a finger on what to do for their daughter and you'd believe soccer scholarships are being handed out to all these girls and they're not. It's a little deceiving if you ask me.
If you are a sophomore or Junior and you are listing a commitment to a college it is absoulutely soccer related.
Thank you. I guess that makes sense. Im just trying to educate myself. There may be some bitter, delusional people on this blog but at times can be very informative.
I am not sure about the accuracy or veracity of TopDrawerSoccer info. I've noticed that TopDrawer shows a 7th grader, grad year 2021, as playing for one of the top ranked high schools.
NJ top 10 will always fluctuate. I like the 4:42 post. TSF just cannot be in top 10. You have to have BOCA, NJCSA Elite or Real before TSF, PDA shore will continue to fall unless they can win some games. Boca beat TSF and SJEB at Edp cup handily. I would keep all of 4:42 but for top 12 get rid of TSF and put in NJCSA Elite as 10, Real as 11 then BOCA at 12. NJ Rush may also be able to slip in there somewhere.
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G - EDP North 1st place as of Today and this is the reason I added them. They beat NJCSA head 2 head and Boca is at the bottom of their division might even get relegated if they don't win a game or 2. 1:2 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY1:0 NJCSA ELITE2:3 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION
304 Yippee PF was able to have 47% of their roster commit to D1 schools so far. Out of those 9 how many are really getting a full ride maybe 1 player that's on the GNT. Look their are still 7(37%) still not committed and they are graduating this coming spring. So again it just shows it's a 50/50 chance a kid is going to play D1 even if they do play for an ECNL club. Again like many have mentioned their other avenues with more better environment and I'm sure PL and GS 4 Life kids will still be just as successful academically and athletically when their daughters reach Sr. year as well. Personally I think that's a failure when 7 girls have not committed yet after more likely many years playing at that level.
The Ivy League schools don't give out pre commitments. And some won't play on college. But my guess is 80-90% will.
Uh oh. Looks like 4:46 has a calculator. Watch out!If 50% of your players committed to D1 you'd pass out from excitement. Failure? Please. Let's keep this is perspective a bit.
2.4% of all female high school players make it to D1. Placing half your team into that 2.4%? That's pretty good, I think.
4:45 it's tough to classify based on current division standings as not everyone has played the same teams at this point. Plus EDP 1st divisions are very different. South toughest then North and then Central. So can't compare based on that. Stick to head to head. I agree with 4:20 that TSF is out.
I think 446 calc's are wrong as I think they are even worse if you add in the players that left, got cut, currently in the club's NPL team etc. during the past 3/4 years from U14-U18. That % decreases a lot. So I think he does make a valid point as it's mostly false marketing but some what true so it's a chance a parent and child takes.
"it's mostly false marketing"So true! Or not. Got an example?
Looks to me like someone has decided that parents claiming ECNL is a better route for playing in college is the same thing as ECNL marketing.Two different things people. There is no false marketing.
North East Girls NPLClass of 2015 Collegiate Athletes118 Varsity Players91 College Programs (D1, D2, D3 and NAIA)77% -not bad for a "B" League
I hope one of them wasn't to the University of Delaware, we all know that doesn't even count.
Here is a look at the ECNL Graduating Class of 2015:ECNL Class of 2015: 1,357College Bound ECNL: 1,236Total # Playing Collegiate Soccer: 1,203 from 77 teams (15.6 per team avg)Division I: 920Division II, DIII, NAIA: 28389% of the Graduating ClassEDP 82 players from 18 teams (4.5 per team avg)NE Girls NPL 91 players from 9 teams (10.1 per team avg)
4:45 Boca cannot be at the bottom of any list. They have such cute moms and their so sweet.
Why don't we just up the ante and determine which group has the highest average starting salaries upon college graduation: ECNL, NPL, EDP, or Town team players?
Bet it's still ECNL
Can you believe that Florida State has two players from Finland, one from Germany, one from Ireland? But none from Region one area ECNL playground. Did they forget to attend the Disney tourney these last couple years? Can't believe they passed up on all those ECNL east coast players for a player from Ireland and Finland. Must have been a hard choice.
All is not lost!! University of South Carolina actually has three NJ and one PA player on its roster (they must have attended Jeff Cup). Phew, I was getting worried. Florida State, Oregon, Washington, UCLA, Virginia Tech, San Diego State, Texas, Arizona, Arizona State had a combined six region one players on their rosters. I have to check bigger schools, since your probably looking for better schools to than that. But hey, out of a little over 200 players, region one did account for six of them (I'll let you figure out the percentage). Yeah, I would say those far away tournaments are really paying off. And that ODP trip to England, something like that is probably what got those six their spots at those colleges.
Good News. Penn State has many PA girls on its roster and even a couple NY girls (a Jersey girl too). Good thing those girls played in some local tournament showcases or Penn State might have filled their roster with girls from Iceland, Turkey, and the Lower Republic of the Congo. Finally sending someone to Disney to see if there were any great southern players. I haven't checked the University of DE. yet, especially since no one would want to play there anyway.
Translation: I am poor and don't have the money to travel.
not at all 10:33. Just trying to validate what everyone is saying about needing to go to Disney and San Diego or else these big school coaches won't see our darlings. Its good you have extra dollars to throw away though, you'll most likely be paying for that education. Don't take it personal though, clubs need dopes like you to support the players that are getting free rides. So you are a good guy after all.
It's the players on the B teams whose dues are paying for the scholarships for the ECNL players when they are recruited. Just ask how many players on the B Teams at ECNL clubs are getting any scholarships/discounts. That's right none.
Its a shame because the scholar tuition some of these ECNL club's fork out are to top players that can afford it but simply do it to retain the player. It should saved for then underprivileged that are capable of playing at a high level but simply cannot afford it.
Great news!!! Although Clemson only carries one region one player on their roster, West Virginia has seven players from PA and two from NY and even one from Jersey. Kinda weird how as soon as we get out of the east coast, these schools have so few of our region one girls. Didn't everyone call the Major college coaches before the "Big" tourneys? But the good news is that we are now up to 7 or 8 girls playing for those major schools outside our regional circle. Kansas and Kansas State were disappointing as well, don't we compete in any midwest tournaments?
University of Delaware has eight players from PA, four from NY and three from NJ. Those poor girls don't realize what a second class education they'll be receiving. Hope they didn't accept any tuition money and kept their options open for a real school.
Go Blue Hens!
I can't believe you guys still don't get it. All you do is throw stones. If you have the money you can throw it away and pay for club scholarships and still be in the place your kid wants to be. If you don't you come on this board and you knock those that do, I get it. But the thing you don't get it's not just ECNL you need to worry about for scholarships it's UEFA also? What? Yup there are u17 girls that would love to come to the states for a free education and now that you have Europe investing in the girls game you have a bigger player pool. Let's take the top 200 Teams and let's say they all have rosters of 20 for easy math that's4,000 seniors divided by 1,557 Schools is 2.6 players per school - YES if your kid plays premier soccer now THERE WILL BE A SCHOOL THAT WANTS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe not the school they want, but if they want to play College Soccer they can very easily. For my easy math I used 200 teams with every player wanting to play, not every player will and the rostersize is not 20 per team.I know I just love the Kool AideCollege Soccer & Scholarship Opportunities ScholarshipStats.com1,667 schools sponsored varsity soccer teams during 2014:1,557 Women's Teams37,760 Varsity Athletes24 Average Roster374,564 Number of High School Soccer players37,760 Varsity Athletes10.1 % - % of High School players competing in CollegeGS 4 Life
What misguided parent is going to advise their kid to choose a college based on the soccer team? Region 1 is full of highly educated parents with girls headed for graduate school. Earning a living through soccer is a rough road if it is even possible.
10:43Two really good schools both cost 30k a year.Student 1 great academics no soccer30,000 tuition15,000-Academic Scholarship15,000 x 4 = 60,000 LoanStudent 2 great academics and a premier soccer player30,000 tuition15,000-Academic Scholarship15,000-Athletic Scholarship (50%)0 x 4 = 0 LoanI think I would advise my kid to go with the scool where she can getan education and come away with a ZERO dollar loan, wouldn't you?
GS Region1 top 101 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE3 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 014 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY5 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL6 NEW YORK SC G017 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 018 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL9 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE10 FC FREDERICK '01Teams that can make a claim? part of top 20 for sure random order1 OAKWOOD SC2 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/023 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F144 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL5 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ6 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM7 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL8 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U149 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U1410 CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREWteams that could round out a top 25 random order1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME2 EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU14 (01/02)3 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 014 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL5 FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 016 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS7 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U148 ISA 01 NPL9 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL10 BETHESDA ECNLWho did I over look?GS 4 Life
GS 4 Life Region 1 Top 15Top third (1-5)NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLSFC VIRGINIA ECNL 01FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNLEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMMiddle third (6-10)BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITEFC STARS OF MASS ECNLPENN FUSION SA '01G ECNLMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14Bottom thirdSOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITEWORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNLOAKWOOD SCPENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14BETHESDA ECNL
10:43 you miss the whole point of the listing. A couple of parents on here trashed a full scholarship to the U of DE. Stating they were going for better (which is fine), a few post later a poster stated the opportunities they had because they were doing big tournaments at Disney and San Diego. I merely was pointing out the value they are getting as a team. So I looked at major schools in the geographical areas of those tournaments. Was amazed that out of 20 Major schools, only eight players from our region were listed. How many teams from our area travel to San Diego and Disney every year? I guess we're not impressing the coaches enough or the talent is better in Finland and Iceland. I did notice that east coach coaches have no problem taking players from California, but the west coast coaches do not return the favor near as much. If only one or two players are really looked at in San Diego, how much of a loss is it for all the other families going out there? I'm still drinking the kool aid, but its starting to taste a little watered down.
12:18 my only question to your post. How many players contacted schools out west and let them know they were interested in their school and were playing? probably only the ones that are there.
3 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U140 FSA FC ECNL U140 CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC4 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB
12:56 you just made my point. If that's the case, why are we going out west to play if one girls or less is actually looking to go out there. A whole roster of players and parents going to feed the need of one family? I applaud the skill of the player doing so and the resolve of the family to support it, but how about the others that are simple supporting that one player? We have so many great colleges within 100 to 500 miles from NJ, NY and PA. Show me the statistics that make these 2000 mile trips worthwhile, and I'll take another sip. If one man can come up with some great stats to support it, it will most likely be GS 4 Life.
All that money NJ Youth Soccer collects from ODP and nobody bothered to pay the website domain bill? Classic.
EDP/NPL Wildcats Averbuch 6PDA Shore 1
That's just EDP. Not an NPL game. Thanks wildcat coach/parent. Now can we please stop calling PDA Shore a top 10 team in NJ.
Since it was just an EDP game, does that mean that it really never happened? Or that Shore had to play their own players? Even though they lost, Shore parents must have been happy to see their girls actually playing. No stopping the Wildcats now, just crushed one of the top 10 teams in NJ!!
107If your kid is looking at northeast midmajors you are probably right that she doesn't need to go to San Diego. An arguement could be made that she doesnt need ECNL depending on her level. An ECNL kid will get a bump from most coaches, all things being equal, over MOST non ECNL team players. National league and NEFC excluded. The price to pay for that bump might be having to travel to San Diego and support the 5 or so kids who need that event. For the kids who are at the top of the roster who aspire to a power 5 there is more advantage than just the chance to be seen by the western schools. One of my older kids was seen and received interest by USC at eastern events at Boca Raton and at PDA . But we took the San Diego trip to check out the schools and their vibe on unofficial visits while we were there. Potentially saved a couple plane tickets. But another reason to go to San Diego is pretty much to seal a deal. Assuming your kid is a sophmore, many of the top level teams prefer to see the kids 4-8 (real numbers quoted to my kids) times before they are willing to offer money. So lets assume they started tracking her as an ninth grader at Sanford very common practice for top schools to have started watching the better 9th graders at this event). Then saw her at PDA and Seattle as a ninth grader. They check back at CASL and Sanford as a 10th grader, offer an unoffcial visit in the winter of her sophmore year. Want to see her one more time at San Diego and make the offer before PDA when they want to start watching 8th graders or they need to check out choice number 2 for your kid's position if she declines the offer. Its a really alarming trend that each year more ninth graders are committing and they are backing up from Sanford to PDA and are now looking closely at 8th graders. So San Diego offers just another national level venue for the top coaches to see a player playing against consistent competition. Many of the top eastern schools, much less outside of the area, didn't even go to jeff cup this year. Some of the top programs are going to ODP regional events, USYSA nationals, and national league events as the only significant non ECNL events. If your kid insn't on an non ECNL team participating in these where is she going to be seen if she aspires to a top 25 coaches list school? If you say she walks on cold at their ID camp and they love her and make a special trip to see just her at PA CLassics winter showcase, I beg to differ... If they love her they email her coach of their interest and ask for a call. On the phone, they tell her to get on an ECNL or national league team so that they can see her play.
First win by Wlidcats over a PDA team since U12.
NJ NCS Quarter FinalsReal NJ - 2Haddonfield - 1
So I ask you 3:50. How are these poor unfortunate souls of non ECNL teams managing to get scholarships like they are? And why are so few of major rosters not filled with east coast girls from ECNL teams. All that gibberish about your kid you just put out, does not show why there are so few girls outside our region. Congrats on your daughter being a great player and hope she is doing well, but how many girls from her team signed on with the schools mentioned here? Or other similar majors in those regions. Don't give us almost or she was going to go there. ECNL is absolutely an advantage when it comes to girls getting noticed within our region and I believe those girls dominate the regional college landscape. But prove to me where they are dominating the in those areas where you say only ECNL teams can be seen.
Fellas, fellas.............If you have Surf Cup on your resume this impresses the eastern coaches as wellIts not all about being seen that particular weekend.Has it even been verified that no colleges outside SoCal area attend Surf Cup Showcase?
Todays game wasn't just a win it was a complete squashing of PDA.Cats had payback on their minds for their only EDP/NPL loss in the last 5 seasons including playoff and NPL finals.
Soccerloco San Diego Surf Cup 2015D1 Colleges Attending (yup Complete waste of time)Arizona State UniversityAuburn UniversityBoston CollegeBoston UniversityBrigham Young UniversityBrown UniversityCalifornia Polytechnic State University California State University - Fresno California State University - Fullerton California State University - Northridge California State University - Sacramento College of the Holy CrossColorado CollegeColorado State UniversityCornell University Dartmouth CollegeDavidson CollegeEastern Kentucky UniversityElon University Gonzaga UniversityGrand Canyon University Harvard UniversityIdaho State University Illinois State UniversityIowa State UniversityKansas State University Lafayette CollegeLong Island University - BrooklynLouisiana State University and A&M CollegeLoyola Marymount UniversityLoyola University - MarylandNew Jersey Institute of TechnologyOregon State UniversityPepperdine UniversityPresbyterian CollegeProvidence CollegeSaint Mary's College - CaliforniaSan Diego State UniversitySan Jose State UniversitySanta Clara UniversitySeattle UniversitySeton Hall UniversitySoutheastern Louisiana UniversitySouthern Methodist UniversitySouthern Utah UniversityStanford UniversityTexas Christian UniversityUnited States Air Force Academy United States Naval AcademyUniversity of AlabamaUniversity of Alabama - BirminghamUniversity of Arkansas - Little RockUniversity of California - BerkeleyUniversity of California - DavisUniversity of California - IrvineUniversity of California - Los Angeles University of California - RiversideUniversity of California - Santa BarbaraUniversity of Cincinnati University of Colorado - BoulderUniversity of DenverUniversity of GeorgiaUniversity of Hawaii - ManoaUniversity of HoustonUniversity of IdahoUniversity of Illinois - Urbana/ChampaignUniversity of KentuckyUniversity of Louisiana - MonroeUniversity of Massachusetts - AmherstUniversity of MichiganUniversity of Missouri - ColumbiaUniversity of Montana - MissoulaUniversity of Nevada - Las VegasUniversity of Nevada - RenoUniversity of New MexicoUniversity of North Carolina - Chapel HillUniversity of North Carolina - WilmingtonUniversity of Northern Colorado University of Notre DameUniversity of OregonUniversity of PennsylvaniaUniversity of PortlandUniversity of San Diego University of San FranciscoUniversity of Southern CaliforniaUniversity of Texas - AustinUniversity of the PacificUniversity of Virginia University of WashingtonUniversity of WyomingUtah State UniversityVanderbilt UniversityVirginia Military InstituteVirginia TechWashington State UniversityYale UniversityGS 4 Life
Since it was just an EDP game, does that mean that it really never happened? No it happened you got your 3 points and then it disappears when the Spring roles aroundas if it never happened. Unfortunately, for PDA Shore they might get relegated. OuchOr that Shore had to play their own players? Why couldn't Shore borrow players is they use US Club pass, only if they us USYSA passes ECNL and NPL players can't play.GS 4 Life
Thats a good win for Wildcats. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be posting it from the parking lot. Great job Awfulbunch, you beat the PDA D team. Looks like all that additional training is paying off.
Hey if you don't want to claim them as yours, then don't let them wear the club uniform and don't take the parents money.Your quick to claim your non-ECNL teams are the best, well one of them that supposedly was so much improved and ready to make a run into top 10 of nj just got obliterated today.Only goal was a hand ball pk.
No win situation for Wildcats. If they lose to a poor team they get bashed (see last seasons Shore result), if they win convincingly against them they are supposed to win. Shore is not a good team just look at their EDP results this season, stop bragging about it please, you sound silly.
Thanks for the play by play coach.
Further supports some of the weaknesses of GS. What ranking is Shore in NJ according to GS?
GS 4 Life. That is an impressive list of schools attending, has been and will be for many years. But you still didn't follow up with what I asked, where are our girls playing in those regions? I looked up many school and only the majors since we were already told ECNL players only go for the top schools and want nothing to do with mid majors or D2. I gave you the numbers that I found and only asked you to show me that I'm wrong. So far I keep getting list of schools and how great the tournament is. And you know what? You guys are right, it is a great tournament for the players from the south, southwestern and northwestern states. The simple fact that there are more international players on these teams than region one players should alarm you. As I told you, I am not anti-ecnl and absolutely believe it is superior to non-ecnl almost every way. But I do know when numbers don't support the product or the advertisement. The numbers in this case do not. The elitist post about parents being to poor to participate is what got me looking into this. I was shocked myself and made me rethink my position a little. Still pro ecnl, but a little more wary.
8:45 - so 12 Northeast ECNL teams sending 20 players each to a D1 school translates to 240 players and there are 310 D1 schools that's not even a player per school. Plus out of the 240 players not all of them would be seniors. Not sure what answer you are looking for to support the product? GS 4 Life
PDA Shore71 National Rank32 Region 1 Rank9 New Jersey Rank4,438 EDP League Points for finishing 2nd and 6th. I would say EDP helped them move up the rankings just like it helped all of it's teams and NYCSL have also jumped on board. These 2 leagues are the main reasons most our teams are ranked so high.GS 4 Life
My comments were geared more towards the regional aspects of a stupid comment by a jackass poster. He obviously had no idea of what he was talking about and of course left all responses to you GS 4 Life. By looking over the college roster I was surprised by how many international players are on each team. Maybe you or soccer nut could tell me why? Do colleges receive a certain amount of international scholarships? And if they don't use them for an international player, are they then forfeited? I'm done debating the point of east coast players playing out west, its an extremely small percentage and its obvious that west coast coaches have very little interest (California is a huge state).
Only Wildcats would post a meaningless EDP score. Enjoy your parade tomorrow.
Yeah right and if they lose an EDP game you will make it the super bowl.
Look at the Wildcat Averbach team. Relegated to the B team at their own club and boasting about beating PDA Shore. PDA Shore has several losses, yet this is the only one thats get posted within an hour of the final whistle?
The real news is who is remaining in the NJ state cup. Give these guys some creds!
Agree congrats to the remaining teams for reaching NJ Semi state cup.
Who are the final 4 fit state cup?7:50 - not just several losses, all losses - 5
I didnt say ECNL players are only looking to go to the top schools at all. You pruposely misquote me to dredge the ECNL versus non ECNL arguement to the fore. Probably to make yourself feel better for potentially denying your child an opportunitity. That's your issue. What I said was that the TOP ECNL players on every team are shooting for Power 5 and they are succeeding at those goals. What I also said was the middle of the roster definitely get a bit of a bump when compared to most non ECNL teams. NEFC and national league teams such as YMS explosion and Penn Strikers are similarly afforded an ECNL like advantage. The bottom of the roster I actually believe would do better on a PL or PAC type team where they are on the field more. If you look at the commits for the top schools, they are dominated by ECNL and national league players. Very disproportionate to the number of total soccer players. I am not going to do the math, but I am sure that the fraction of ECNL players versus total players in the country is significantly increased at the power 5.
10:56There will always be parents that poo poo ECNL. Frankly, it's a tired argument.If you play on ECNL team and get great playing time, then you have the best "Concentrated exposure"Right now our club coaches are trying desperately to keep our team in top tournaments to prevent an exodus. We are teetering. When you speak to the DOC, he freely admits that he would not have this issue of trying to keep their club teams in top brackets of top tournaments if they were an ECNL club. They would also do a lot less tournaments.
Don't back pedal 10:56. I went strictly by the numbers, even going so far to check out the teams ranked in the top 20. You mentioned only a few items, one was ECNL players dominating the college landscape and how unfortunate these poor non-ecnl girls are. Then you threw in an elitist statement about how they don't have money to be part of the ECNL program or go to a prestigious tournament like San Diego. I merely gave you the overall numbers of players from our region that have benefited from that tournament, which was eight players over 20 teams. I am ready to drop this now, especially since ECNL does have huge benefits within our region. Just wanted to make sure that you knew you were a dumb ass and next time try to have some of your own thoughts and not those you have read off a pamphlet at the meeting. We all have read that. Try doing your homework next time before you post. If you would like, I can give you the numbers of 30 more schools (D1) in the West and midwest and those numbers are very similar. For those coaches to take our girls, they have to blow them away when they see them play. They see thousands of good to great players everyday out there. Sorry to continue guys, but Homey the Dumb Ass Clown persist.
No one is "poo pooing" on the ECNL. It is a superior league and its pretty clear by the showing of its top six teams.Most ECNL parents already know this and you almost never see thump their chest, because when you know your good, you don't have to. But this guy, who daughter is fighting for hopeful minutes on her team, loves to thump.
Is there a good geographer/demographer out there who can provide the statistics on what percentage of the U.S. population lives within a one or two hour one-way commute to an ECNL team site. I know of families who make the four hour round trip, although I do not know how the homework gets done, but anything beyond the two hour commute radius approaches unreasonable to me even if that is the only way to avoid going to Delaware for college. I am still convinced that there is a larger talent pool without reasonable access to ECNL than there is participating in ECNL.
Tomorrow it Will Be Wildcats vs NJCSA Elite. For State Cup. Who will Win???
Yes. You hitch hike a ride on 10:56's personal helicopter. He'll gladly give you a ride, unless your a threat to his daughters minutes. So far, no one has been given a ride.
12:44How do you know the game is tomorrow ????
Anonymous said...Tomorrow it Will Be Wildcats vs NJCSA Elite. For State Cup. Who will Win???October 25, 2015 at 12:44 PMSo you're saying that this particular quarter final game will determine who will eventually go on to win the entire State Cup tournament, even though GPS, a potential opponent in the finals, just beat Wildcats 2-0 yesterday? And NJCSA doesn't have a quality win at u14 to point to? Anything can happen, but I wouldn't be so boastful just yet. Still two good teams to play before either of you lifts a trophy.
NJ Wildcats Averbuch 2-0 win over NJ RushBoth teams came in 5 and 0 and tied for 1st in EDP Central and NPL.
I did not interpret that post to be boasting. Think they were mentioning it was A state cup game not THE state cup game. I do however think they are trying to stir the pot.
NJ Rush team looks strong enough to give any of the remaining teams a tussle.
PDA ECNL 2MF ECNL 1
only PDA would post a meaningless ECNL score. Enjoy your parade tomorrow
NPL Virginia Fall 201520 (8) PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER19 (7) FC VIRGINIA16 (6) VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB12 (7) VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION12 (8) CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION10 (8) RICHMOND KICKERS9 (7) NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB8 (7) FC UNITED8 (7) RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB 5 (7) VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER2 (8) ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB1 (8) CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC Scores Not reported:Sun, October 25, 2015FC UNITEDVIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUBNORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUBCHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATIONVIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATIONFC VIRGINIAANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBVIENNA YOUTH SOCCER
New England Girls NPL Fall 201515 (5) NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS12 (4) OAKWOOD SC9 (5) BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/025 (6) SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G 5 (4) YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE4 (6) GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/024 (4) SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/020 (4) AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPLScores Not reported:Sun, October 25, 2015OAKWOOD SCNEFC ELITE U14 GIRLSYANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUEAZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL
NYCSL NPL 2015-2016NPL EAST16 (7) Intense Soccer Academy NPL-0114 (6) Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-0114 (7) Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-0112 (7) Quickstrike FC NPL-019 (7) New York Soccer Club NPL-013 (7) Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01NPL WEST21 (7) NJ Crush FC NPL-0116 (6) STA NPL-016 (7) New York Rush NPL-016 (7) Match Fit Academy NPL-013 (7) Princeton SA NPL-010 (7) NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01Scores Not reported:Sun, October 25, 2015Manhattan SC NPL-01STA NPL-01
Eastern Development Program - NPL DivisionNo Games Played:NPL NorthALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPLJERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPLNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLNJCSA ELITE TSF ACADEMY 01/02G NPL SouthFC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMALEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSNEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREYSJEB '01G NPL
After thoughtful consideration I have hastily decided to take my talents to PDA ECNL. Thank you to my future teammates who pay full tuition which is allowing me to only pay 25% of the asking price. I look forward to meeting everyone in January. Be sure to save me some Kool Aid. I am told it tastes exceptionally good unless you are the girl who I just bumped than I imagine it tastes quite bitter.Future USWNT Player
NPL Northeast Girls League 2015-1621 (7) PDA North 01 NPL17 (11) Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL16 (7) Match Fit Academy 01 NPL14 (6) PDA South 01 NPL11 (6) Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL10 (6) FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL 10 (7) World Class FC 01 NPL9 (10) East Meadow SC 01 NPL8 (7) Continental FC 01 NPL6 (8) FC Bucks 01 NPL1 (1) Connecticut FC 01 NPL 0 (9) Albertson SC 01 NPL0 (1) FSA FC 01 NPLScores Not reported:Sat, October 24, 2015FC Bucks 01 NPL Connecticut FC 01 NPLSun, October 25, 2015FC Bucks 01 NPLFSA FC 01 NPLWorld Class FC 01 NPLContinental FC 01 NPL
2015 REGION 1 FALL CHAMPION'S LEAGUE12 (4) FC VIRGINIA6 (3) BEADLING SC3 (3) HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO0 (2) GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC0 (2) PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02Scores Not reported:Sun, October 25, 2015BEADLING ELITEPERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02
5:01- It must have been killing you wondering how long to follow up on your own post. Not very creative.
U14 ECNL Champions League Qualification3.00 Michigan Hawks ECNL U143.00 Eclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U142.71 FC Virginia ECNL U142.67 Mustang SC ECNL U142.67 Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U142.63 Concorde Fire ECNL U142.44 FC Dallas ECNL U142.40 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U142.33 So Cal Blues SC ECNL U142.29 Ohio Premier ECNL U142.29 PDA ECNL U142.13 Arsenal FC ECNL U14 *wc 2.10 Jacksonville FC ECNL U142.00 TSC Hurricane ECNL U141.57 Colorado Rush ECNL U14-.-- NorthwestU14 Northeast ConferenceMetro Division2.29 (7) PDA ECNL U142.00 (7) Match Fit Academy ECNL U141.50 (10) Penn Fusion SA ECNL U140.50 (6) World Class FC ECNL U140.00 (5) Continental FC Delco ECNL U140.00 (8) FC Bucks ECNL U14New England Division2.40 (5) Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U142.33 (9) East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U141.50 (2) FSA FC ECNL U141.33 (9) Albertson Fury ECNL U141.20 (5) FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U141.00 (1) Connecticut FC ECNL U14
4:39, Every game must be meaningless.
4:39 EDP Fall champion does not qualify for any regional or national event.ECNL qualifies for tournament in CA this year. Don't hate.GS 4 Life
NJ National Championship Series u11-u14Quarter-Finals0 THISTLE COMETS 1 GLOBAL PREMIER SOCCER NJ1 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS2 SJEB '01G NPLNot Reported:NJCSA ELITENJ WILDCATS GALAXY2 REAL NJSC SOUNDERS1 HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNING#############################NJ NCS winner qualifies for2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ChampionshipsBarboursville, WVJune 30 - July 5with a shot at2016 US Youth Soccer National ChampionshipsFrisco, TexasJuly 25 - July 31
Yes 6:27. We already saw how many girls end up playing for those schools out there. Good luck though. Your daughter could be the one.
GS 4 Life, I am not 4:39 and I am not a hater but I find no value in taking 13/14 year olds to CA for a national tournament. I think a regional competition of state cup winners is enough. I really wish there was only one state cup competition but that is another topic for another day.
Edp open cup also qualifies for regional. Galaxy loses to GPS so again first in NJ? PDA shore is abysmal and I like the team and coach avid effort but they are having hard time. BOCA won today finally but again 2 on a row in tough south division. PDA ecnl is probably best team in state, is that storm or mix of players?
6:52 I can see your point and I respect it. But as you can see even if your daughter's team wins their state cup they advance to a regional tournament and if they win that they advance to Texas this year, Kansas last year. So what's the difference? 6:50 Thanks - not sure she wants to go that far from home, but she's only 13 a lot can change. But for real does it bother you that much that EDP doesn't? PS. 6:52 I want to agree with you, But as a fan and because of the vacation opportunities I can't.GS 4 Life
7:04 Which regional?I know NJ Cup and NY Cup go directly to National Cup. PA Cup goes to Mid-Atlantic regional which i believe is an open event.NCS goes to regional eventEDP webpage doesn't say that - but they stink with theri marketing
Again everyone is getting excited and crazy over wins and losesand rankings. Nothing counts until U15 and every team is gettingswitched around next tryout period and the points will get wiped/adjusted.Just have fun, train hard and enjoy!
You are right. Let's stop talking about this season. Means nothing.
EM 3, BB 1Impressive. We definitely have another team to add to the short list of "A" teams.
Still can't win the big game with the same line up. Time to get a new coach and a new system. PDA wins again!
Definitely another team to add to the "A" list. BOCA won again and they are on a roll! And they have those cute moms too
There were very good players that sat on the bench today for PDA and they did not get one minute of playing time. How's that for development?
Those players on the bench will now work twice as hard on their game. We're not giving out participation awards for showing up. Best players play and those that are not, learn by watching how its done.
0 Manhattan SC NPL-01 0 STA NPL-010 OAKWOOD SC7 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS 3 YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE0 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL0 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION3 FC VIRGINIA7 HBC SPARK0 JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL3 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY0 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE0 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL3 PDA SHORE FUSION3 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK0 SJEB '01G NPL3 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS1 HFC READY '01 1 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE3 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION2 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA 0 BETHESDA STORM 012 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER0 PIPELINE BLACKEDP 1st Division North12 (5) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G11 (6) NJ WILDCATS GALAXY10 (4) RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 7 (5) NJCSA ELITE7 (5) GPS NJ FLASH5 (6) BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE4 (5) HBC SPARK3 (6) JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL EDP 1st Division Central18 (6) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL15 (6) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS12 (5) NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE4 (4) UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK4 (5) SJEB '01G NPL 3 (4) REAL SOUNDERS1 (6) PDA SHORE FUSION 1 (4) FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA EDP 1st Division South19 (7) 1776 UNITED FC XTREME12 (4) PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK10 (5) HFC READY '01 8 (7) CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE7 (5) HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER7 (6) PIPELINE BLACK 6 (6) JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION 4 (7) BETHESDA STORM 011 (5) RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICAPro/Rel Zone- JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL + SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT- PDA SHORE FUSION + WYOMING VALLEY SC '01GIRLS - RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA + PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM GS 4 Life
Where is the Fraud Police?
GS 4 Life, 6:52 again... To clarify I don't think the state cup winners at the younger ages should move on at the younger ages. U10/U11 stop at the state level, U12/U13/U14 stop at the regional level. U15 and up go play in a national event.I know this isn't a popular position but let' them mature before they are required to travel the country.
652 once again, as for the vacation oppurtunities... I used to enjoy my house in Avalon up until all this soccer crap started now my sisters family has nice beach house at thier disposal! Sometimes I wish my kids sucked, played rec and were done by memorial day. Not really, winning is fun!
If you take the 6 teams from PA playing EDP and add them to the top 3 or 4 still playing PAGS Div 1 I think you end up with a better league than any of the current EDP divisions. So I ask... why did these teams move on? Do they see it as a stepping stone to NPL/ECNL? Do they like that EDP gives out GS points for league play? ECNL is never going to happen for any of those clubs (my bet is PA Classics or a club further west gets the nod). PAGS could easily address the points. I am not in the know so be kind if you respond.
10:28 At least they got to dress and sit on the bench. What about the ones that didn't even dress?10:39 'Others learn by watching, how it's done'. Really?
12:51 - I think it is like sheep following the herd. One good PA team moves to EDP, then the rest start to follow. The GotSoccer points are definitely a reason too. Another reason was the EDP allowed 11v11 at the younger ages when pags was entirely 8v8. By moving to EDP, teams would tell parents that it was more elite. I wonder if pags has ever looked into getting the points awarded for their games? I wonder the cost?
PDA - MF great was a great game to watch. Both very solid. PDA pulled it out late.
Not surprised to see PDA won. In playing both teams this season PDA was definitely the better of the two.
Bethesda brackets still not out?
Did anyone hear the MF Mom yelling after the game? that was hysterical
Mf appeared to have more chances the 2nd half,but ex-Mf player was able to break through a tired looking defensive line to score the winning goal. Great job Pda,nice pickup from your rivals!
I don't know how to say this so I'm going to just say it - sorry if it comes out like I'm a tool (which I am anyway). Big rosters and ECNL in NJ is no secret. Not playing and not dressing comes with the territory, we've hit this topic way to many times in the past (it's not going to change). I'm guessing this is new for your kid or you must be new to this situation? The bottom 3rd of players are used to keep the middle 3rd at their best.
BETHESDA GAME SCHEDULES WILL BE AVAILABLE ON/OR BEFORE NOVEMBER 2, 2015That's from their website. Next time don't post the link, just enjoy it.You guys never learn, want to be the first one. Then you have have the MSC tournament people and now the Bethesda tournament people seeing your post and disabling the link. Remember some of these tournaments want to KEEP it TOP SECRET this is YOUTH SOCCER much money to be made.GS 4 Life
Good game vs the top two. PDA had better play in the first half but MF responded with the better play in second. Not many legit scoring chance for either. MF had solid chance with about 10 mins left and player got in on thru ball and was taken down right outside box with no call. Then PDA scored on thru ball with 1 minute left. What you would expect with these two teams. Good stuff.
Are we in the top flight? Do we deserve to be in the top flight? I have to stop answering my own questions, can someone help?
Hooray for PDA and MFA!!!You guys are an inspiration to my cat.
Maybe your cat should inspire your daughter to try out for one of those two. Haha we know how that would end up
If we lived in New Jersey, she would be on one of those teams, but my cat is very particular about where he wants to live, what can I do? Sometimes I wonder if he really cares about my daughters development.
Has MFA ever beaten PDA? Not trolling, curious about the head to head record.
OK well last I checked this is a NJ blog so have your cat do some research and find one that applies to your state.
Has anyone been paying attention to State Cup Competition in NJ? Plan on bring my dog to watch some it I know cats tend to be shy and run away from competition anyway.
My cat hates dogs, and might attack your dog at any given moment, but I digress.Back to u14 girls soccer, and to Mr. New Jersey, me-ow!PDA and MFA are the ying-yang of jersey soccer, you can’t have a ying without a yang, good without evil, vanilla without chocolate, etc...
They are not new to the situation.They are the same parents who were drinking the KoolAid and defending the 25 player rosters last year at U13 when "their" daughters were playing most of the game and it was someone else's kid who was sitting the bench or not dressing at all and left out. Then it was it was easy to say "Hey only the best play and the others who don't play or dress are motivated to work even harder in training to move up as kind of JV or practice players/taxi squad players and they develop from that experience.You know, raise your kid in a only the strongest survive meat grinder.How does that work on a 13 year olds head?Quality players who have the ability to one day play in college in most cases are rotting on the bench or not even rostered while sitting on the bench or watching from the parent sideline in street clothes.But hey "suck it up" we are not giving out particpation medals right?It's all about development not winnning at these clubs remember that one?How is that working out now that it is your kid doing the sitting and the crying in the car on the way home?
Anyone ever watch the GPS team? Scores are very inconsistent, but in past 3 weeks:1. Beat GS #1 Wildcats Galaxy2. Beat GS #2 Wildcats Averbuch3. Tied GS #3 STA4. State Cup semis
12:51. Teams involved in Pags this year will tell you they are not concerned about GS points. I think the original intent of clubs moving away from Pags was to play teams they never see, and hopefully to play stronger clubs in the process. Every league tends to have three or four teams that just get crushed, the tough part is driving two or three hours to play in a game like that (for both teams involved). So the hope is that the rest of the league will have teams equal to or better than their own teams. I don't know about other clubs, but our club president has a total disdain for anyone who even mentions Got Soccer points in conversation, and has a set limit on how many games the girls can play. I would not be surprised if PAGS does not morph into something else that brings more credibility to that league. I still think PAGS works at the 8v8 level, but those teams lose so many players upon entering 11v11 play.PL Parent
There is no such thing as through balls in NJ. I think you meant the center back kicked it as far as she could and the striker out ran the defense.
1102You should come watch that PDA team play, i think your kids would take notes on how development soccer is supposed to be taught.They may not win every game but those kids can flat out play this beautiful game.
10:45- It's not for everybody. Some kids will work harder to improve in practice and earn more playing time. Some kids will burnout and leave soccer. Others will go to another program in the state and be a star. IF one of these players came back to their local teams they would start immediately over a girl who has been there. Playing the best player is not exclusive to PDA and MF.Do you have an issue with honor students or Honor Society in school?. Some kids get upset because their 98 was the 10th best grade in the class. Should we give them all 100's? I understand its not for everybody, but don't knock the kids that are willing to try!10:46- Your exactly right. They have put together a very good win streak in soccer lately. Their parents won't come here and post it from the parking lot but they have been playing great.
@9:53, you may want to check the blog description. It's no longer NJ-focused but all of Region 1.
Quick question for you PDA info maniacs are many of those girls that sit a PDA ECNL game at least play on their NPL teams. Just wondering because if you are paying the same tuition and not playing any games at all wouldn't that feel like a burning hole in your pocket. Sometimes I question their tactics and it does not relate to the new initiative of "player first".Sometimes I feel building a team environment and competing as a team in high level situations tends to be a better experience than lobbying for a roster spot and sitting the bench. Sorry but I admire those kids and parents that do it just don't foresee the benefit.
Pda is an exception to the through ball definition in NJ. I will give you that one.
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