All of the NE teams would get smoked by California and Texan teams.
Have you seen any of the Texas or California teams play in the age group? I doubt it! How many National Championships have PDA won? I am not a PDA fan or parent but you have to understand that in the next few years, when all the top players find a true home, we as NJ, will be stacked. It's either going to be at PDA or MFA. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK. That team will compete with TX or CA.
But I do think you should review the current national ranks for the U16, U17 and U18 groupsYou may have been misled.
1:25 and 2:07 Let me see if I can break it down another way that you can understand.According to your winning percentage formulaA team that goes to jeff cup and plays in top flight and ties all 3 games gets a .0 winning percentage in your formula.also at jeff cup this weekend another team in the same top flight loses all 3 games and also gets the same .0 winning percentage.According to you the team with 3 ties should receive no more consideration from the flight coordinators for next years top flighting then the team that lost all 3 games.In ANY tournament or League that plays soccer ties ALWAYS count for positive points, while in ANY tournament or league losses ALWAYS get you 0 points.If your formula makes no differentiation between losses and ties than it is FLAWED as a measure of results. Do you really think that like yourself the flight coordinators will only look at number of wins ?there are normally more ties than w's or ls when top teams square off at these events.
5:42Which rankings do you go by?
5:48 Yes, of course they look at the entire body or work.also remember that a loss couled be by more than 1 goal and a sign of being non-competitive in F!, as was the case with NJ Crush or Ajx last spring at jeff cup.A tie on the other hand shows a team played very competitively vs another F1 Team. How can 3 or 4-0 shutout losses count same as ties?
Good point 6:31. But I'm sure you have also seen ties that have been absolutely dominated by one team. A game where one team is keeping possession and firing away, but either the keeper is standing on her head making saves, or there is so many in the box that outside the eighteen possession is all that's there. If a coach knows he doesn't have the horse's to play full field, packing the box and hoping for a set play score is their best option. And I think we all have seen this many times.
STA will only implode just as their U14 team.
A tie is better than a loss no matter how you slice it.and a tie gets you a point while a loss gets you 0 points.therefore any formula that doesn't give a tie more credit than a loss is clearly flawed.Most of the ties I saw in the F1 games were the result of competitive games, not from 1 team playing everyone back and never mounting any attack of their own.Plus as many of the ties have been 1-1 as have been 0-0, so your example does not hold water across the board.
9:11i have seen this with wins and loses as well.So your point has no merit.
First it's not my formula - it's the formula every body uses.A Loss = 0.0A Tie = 0.5A Win = 1.01W, 1T, 1L = .5000W, 3T, 0L = .500What's your complaint?1W, 6T, 2L = .444 it's a losing record. No spin - not my formula - just a fact.
Some more scoresRegion 1 CL 2 YMS BANSHEES0 VSA HEAT BLUE NorthEast NPL1 FSA FC 01 NPL2 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL3 World Class FC 01 NPL0 Albertson SC 01 NPL
Is someone really argueing STA over NJ Wildcats for a spot in D1? Against the rest of the D1 field NJW is 1-5-1 with a GD of 0 and the only loss a one goal game against FCV, possibly the best team on the east coast. STA is 0-3 with a GD of -6(all games lost by 2 goals) 2 of which were to the wildcats. Come on!
Oops, that would be bad. Sorry I meant 1Win, 5 Ties, 1Loss for wildcats.
Teams are in top flight because they should be.Your team is not because they obviously shouldn't be.Here's the formula for that:F1 = 8 teams minus your team which equals too bad for you
No one said Wildcats. I just said NJ Wildcats, PF & Calvert are all F1 teams with a losing record playing F1 teams at major tournaments. Can't put that any way but one - these teams have a losing record - sub .500.I was asked to give a team that should get a shot. I said STA based on winning record vs PDA, EM, WC and FSA ECNL teams W2, T1, L1. What did I say that was a stretch?10:41 don't forget 2 goal loss to PDA Ajax. So you believe F1 should have teams with sub .500 records? instead of giving another a shot? That's cool. I think you know where Istand
11:02I didn't firget Ajax, the D1 field I was referring to was the one a Jeff Cup, my #s are accurate, thanks.
11:01 I will be at home next weekend.But that still doesn't change the fact that NJ Wildcats, PF and Calvert are all sub .500 teams vs F1 teams.But you can take another shot at me if you like if it makes you feel better.
STA will be lucky to win their group, please give it a rest. Also could you list the teams that are + .500 this fall against Other D1 teams?
You are right to be fair - I have listed every team that played in F1 at the below tournamentsWAGS Spirit BethesdaDisney CASL DiscoveryFC StarsI think this is all the majors. This Spring we will have Jefferson, PDA & Delco. Let me know If missed any majors and why you think it should be included fora little more fun. 1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.833 DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 MICHIGAN WOLVES-HAWKS 02 (MI)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.643 CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL)0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.500 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)0.500 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)0.500 GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA)0.500 LTSC STRIKERS (MD)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)0.333 MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL)0.333 ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS)0.333 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC)0.333 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.333 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.250 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)0.167 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL)0.000 BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
Just teams from NY,MA,NJ, PA, MD & VA1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)0.500 LTSC STRIKERS (MD)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.333 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.250 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)0.167 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
iduals that are in fear of their playing time. Except for a few that have been playing the entire games because parents threaten to leave every time Suzie is taken out. Wellll done Coach.
Looking at Jeff cup F1 by winning%.Group A looks wide open while Group B should come down to FCV and PL. A few more days to go good luck all.Group A 0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) 0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)Group B0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)
PDA Tournamnet possible F11.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.889 CREW JUNIORS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)2 of these 30.667 FC STARS OF MASS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)This is a sick F1 if it happens this way.FC Delco possible F1 0.889 CREW JUNIORS GOLD WEST (OS)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)
7:25, that is a pretty funny statement, sorry. We all suffer with the specter of playing-time for our child, but threatening to leave the team is extremely petty, and self-centered. If a family on our club did that, they would be shown the door. Plenty of families in our area would jump at the chance to play for our club. Not important what team you are with, it happens to many teams. Good luck to you.
Dear stats man,Is your daughters team playing at Jeff Cup this weekend?
Where is PDA Storm in those lists????Plus, I think you stated you will not be at Jeff Cup this weekend. Hmmmmm, could this be a disgruntled PDA storm cronie.We will never know, but sure looks that way.
Unless all teams have played the same opponents and the same number of games under the same conditions then your stats are useless and basically comparing apples to oranges.Sorry dude, just not buying it.
What you're asking the guy for is impossible, same conditions? Come on!
field conditions for grass fields will be sloppy this weekend at Jeff Cup. Teams from the Northeast at a big disadvantage as they haven't been able to get outside and play large sided all winter. Good Luck
7:44 - No8:14 - Storm didn't play in any of those major tournaments on the east coast - I can't just throw them in for shits and giggles. So now I'm with Storm because I'm talking about tournaments they didn't play in? Hint - you are the one that brought up Storm - not me.8:28 - Don't be a tool - there can only be one tool on the blog and I hold that title. I've been saying that all along. But since there are posters that like to throw around being in F1 of major tournaments is end game. I played along and posted all the F1 teams and their winning % from only the major tournaments. You can never compare apples to apples because we have 50 states with thousands of teams so who's trying to spin? Not I my list is simple Major tournaments and F1 only.Sure I would look for ways to say the data is flawed if I was under .500. I wanted to include EDP Cup and NEWSS
Here since you think I'm with PDA I'll give you some more data to feed your fire.Some posters said NJ teams can't win in F1 of majors, are they right? it looks that way.0.500 PDA AJAX (NJ)0.500 MF PRE ECNL (NJ)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 0.333 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)How about PA?0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.250 UKRAINIAN BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)or NYE1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)or VA0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)or MD0.500 LTSC STRIKERS (MD)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.167 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)or MA- hands down the best.0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)
Incorrect formula above0 wins, 3 ties and 0 looses is not .500It is .333That is 3 points from 9, using the proper vernacular.Or 1.00 points per game, using the formula that pre ECNL NPL currently uses.
"Hmmmmm, could this be a disgruntled PDA storm cronie."I'm sorry this is to funny to let go. I post stats of major tournaments on the east coast - Include every team that played in these tournaments calculated their winning% at these events only with NO MENTION of PDA STORM or ECNL- putting just the tournaments and all those great teams in the spotlight to compare them. AND I'M DISGRUNTLED?? I didn't give any opinions.Just gave everyone the major Tournaments and their F1 results I can't make those up, but yet I'm DISGRUNTLED? No I'm not - a tool yes- disgruntled no.
9:28, how does my daughters team get into this stupid conversation? We don’t bother anybody, we don’t complain about being portrayed as subpar, all we want is for our children to enjoy their young lives, and be part of a club and team that trains hard, plays fair, and strives to improve themselves both as players, and young people.
No the formula is correct(wins + ties*.5)/GP is how every major sport calculates winning% MLB, MLS, NFL, NBA & NHL.So if a team never won a game and never lost a games in 3 games played how are they anything but .500?
9:44 did your kid's team play in F1? that's how - no one called them sub par but you. They are what they are when looking at F1 results of majors.
But, but, but we had injuries, and a new coach, and my daughter did not play, and the other teams cheated, and the turf was too rough, and the ref was against us, (they are always against us) and, and, and...
Why didn't you mention1 -Tri-state = .3332 -BRYC -.444they are also top flight at jeff cup and all below .500 same as wildcats, penn fusion and calvert using your formula.so should we just give the jeff cup medals to FCV and not bother ton play the games as there would be no one left to play in top flight if you were the flight coordinator(Yikes).
These stats really expose some teams - I think that is where most of the pushback is coming from. We know these teams make most of the posts - especially before the big ones happen. But it's really all about the experience. Sure it is.
Here's a thought. Put away your little calculator and lets just let the weekend happen.players move teams, teams fold and join others. You can post stats all day, put its skewed no matter how you try to explain it.All of it was yesterday's news. Lets look ahead to the spring season.Good luck to your daughters where ever they play.
Good post 10:26, and to you too!
Compare your win% against gotsoccer's win%'s. Why are you not holding the teams responsible for all of their games? Chelsea still has to beat QPR. PDA loses and ties in fall EDP Cup so you don't use that as an F1 event but you use Discovery? I'd argue 2nd even 3rd divisions in some of your tournaments are stronger then 1st in others you have listed.
Indeed 10:26If you look back on this board 9 months ago STA was being BURIED. Just one example.
9:48This is soccer. We have tablesAnd no win percentages (this is a gotsoccer-dreamed production)
and...Gotsoccer uses wins/games played
Weather for Virginia not good at all. Today chance of showers, tomorrow is a washout. Thursday partly cloudy skies then Friday temperature dips & another washout. Saturday lingering showers but bit warmers. Getting quality playing surface on real grass is going to be a huge challenge.
Crush poster is upset that they have been exposed and at the bottom of them all. they need to recruit and this doesn't help the cause. U14 team are all scrambling to get on ecnl teams - jump while you can. WCFC is a great option for you - u14 team is trying hard to go there now.
10:12 I gave my opinion below:Anonymous said...Looking at Jeff cup F1 by winning%.Group A looks wide open while Group B should come down to FCV and PL. A few more days to go good luck all.Group A 0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) 0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)Group B0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)####################10:26 But today is Tuesday and if we weren't talking about this we would be talking about?PS. I am looking ahead to Spring - what makes you think I'm not - because i posted some stats we haven't talked about and some teams look bad? That makes me a bad guy and a trouble maker? #####################10:37 But If I do that i would be adding 8v8 results - got killed when i did that. I wanted to include Fall EDP Cup and NEWSS but is FSA NPL a F1 team I decided not to? Sorry I thought Discovery was a Major. Do you want me to remove Discovery? I'm okay with that.
nobody cares what you do
Okay I don'tt hink anyone will argue that these are the MAJOR EastCoast tournaments WAGS Spirit BethesdaDisney CASL FC StarsTook only F1 from these tournaments:1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.833 DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 MICHIGAN WOLVES-HAWKS 02 (MI)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.667 CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL)0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)0.500 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.500 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)0.500 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)0.500 GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)0.333 MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL)0.333 ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS)0.333 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.167 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.167 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)0.000 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL)0.000 BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
Okay so you don't like by team how about by state association?0.765 GA0.700 OS0.654 MA0.550 NYE0.538 VA0.405 NJ0.342 PAE0.341 MD
Dude, are you some kind of Hotshotz groupie? Every time you make a list you out them on top, whats up with that, is your daughter on that team, are you coach Dan??
To the poster who posted the winning percentages. Good job. My daughter plays on a team that is below 500. Never thought her team is the best but we are going in the right direction. She knows what it takes to play teams in the f1 and plays with more intensity. I personally don't see a huge difference between F1 and F2. All teams deserve credit for the high level of play. Good luck to all region 1 teams. I can't wait for this weekend. Let's go outside and enjoy all the games.
I have a question for the MF pre-ecnl team, is the girl who got the u15 National team call-up really the best player on your team, or was their more to that decision?
So is it Storm or HotShotz?They have the best winning%WAGS Spirit BethesdaDisney CASL FC StarsOkay I'll put a min games played of 5 to show teams playing in 2 or more only if it makes you feel better.0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)
What would really make me feel better is to know what team your daughter plays on, care to tell us?
I didn't post my comment to make you feel better. Now it seems you are just bored at work and are trolling.
11:34 I agree with you 100% - The talk has been that playing in F1 at majors is what counts. I don't argue that I wanted to run with it and to build on it.It show's who doesn't play at majors - if your not ECNL and think you are good you should be playing in majors.It shows all the teams that these events thought were really good by placing them in F1 to play really good teams. It's no slap to be in f1.It supports claims made that teams are elite or it exposes those claims as false.I personally, agree that the top two flights in these majors should be used,but then I would get called out for trying to include a team that doesn't belong.
11:39 Why does it matter?11:43 not trolling just adjusting the list to your complaints. Maybe that is trolling? or maybe you want to talk about what 11:35 want's to, go ahead I will stop.
All of the teams in the top 2 flights belong. You can argue in favor of many teams. The system isn't perfect but get used to it. This happens in all aspects of life. All they can do is play the best they can on that given day
11:49 if you read my post I never complain once. I even said you did a good job. Like I said before I don't think my daughters team is the best and would be happy to play any of the top teams in this or any tournament. Builds character and shows what they have to improve on
Opinions will likely change after this weekend. Look at Spirit D1, some of those teams will never see F1 again. Other than FCV who would be given one pass, any D1 team that goes 0-3 at Jeff can expect to be in D2 at the next Major. Whoever wins D2 will be D1 like NEFC will be. These committees are trying to place teams in divisions based on 6-12 month old results, and they get it right more often than not. We'll see who put the work in this winter and who didn't.
Hot Shotz groupiehehConveniently leaves out Delco CupGlosses over losses in their own event and at NEWSS (to ALBERTSON - hey, I wonder where that guy got the idea that ALB. was an up and comer?)See the field, folks.Excellent team, of course, by the way. And a "local" that HAS won an out of state event (STARS)
I agree with 12:01. I think that Jeff Cup picked the right 8 teams for top flight (with World Class having a case to be in it), but I also think that 5 or 6 of those teams (including my daughter's) might be out of the top flights of the next round of tournaments with a poor showing this weekend. I'm not sure what to expect given how little practice many of these teams have had due to the weather.
F1 Teams?ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE)ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)At NEWSS they were -IF I included this _ would have to include many others and honestly I'm good but I don't have that much time on my hands.F1 Teams?ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01 (CT)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)AT EDP I would have to include these teams.Kill me on the board and call me a groupie.11;51 You just gave me an idea - I will run a separate list list of F2 teams at these events.PS. I am used to it - it is reality - that'swhy i'm on this board having some fun. Not once did I give my opinion about the order of the list, just posted stats.11:58 - I'm with you - I think more kid's should have an opportunity to play that level. I'm a soccer guy and love pro/rel - if you don't win you get relegated and give someone else a chance to get promoted.12:01 Agree12:06 Why would I include Delco and exclude 8v8 from Delco? I though 8v8 was so yesterday? Not all top teams played 11v11 at Delco. See my comments above about NEWSS I left it out for a reason not becasue I'm a groupie. But whatever floats your boat. PS. You ever hang on hempstead Turnpike, Francis lewis blvd or 231 when you were younger? How about Astoria Park or in Bensonhurst?
I didnt say include NewssI prefer your model disappears altogether
The GS page shows Bucci as the NJX-MF coach. Is he the coach or are they just using his likeness to foster the ruse?
MF did the same thing last year to keep them from bolting club. then he never coached a game.
He coached them this weekend. If you are not on the team, why do you care??
What do you get when njx merges with MF? No top flights in tournaments. More losses in the last year then the previous 3 years. Beat FSA 5-0 in the fall and squeak by 2-1 this weekend. Transformed a team to a bunch of individuals. Me me me
He doesn't coach even when he does show up. He's busg socializing instead of coaching
That's not socializing silly. That's coaching. Don't you know that.
717 - are you kidding? I will tell you this and I have never seen her play, she blows your daughter away. Go away you tool.
@7:17 let me guess , your daughter played with her at one point and she kept the ball and didn't pass to your D. And now you can't stand that she is so good. You always thought you daughter was just as good, but she didn't pass to her and she got all the glory. Time to move on and give the kid credit and tell yours to step up her game, these people who chose her know way more than you ever will.
6:16 I was there. No longer buying!
If you call texting coaching????
So what I haven't seen yet is the predicted order of finish for each bracket in the top two flights (or even three). Its kind of easy to pick FCV and BRYC in the final, but how will the brackets look on Sunday afternoon? I do not see anyone going 0-3, also think there could something similar to Spirit with teams tied at the end (but not a three way PK playoff)
I will pick All the games for you tomorrowRight after the priority tasks of organizing my soups and vacuuming the cat
Remember a couple days before Bethesda, most of this boards "brain trust" had Cinn a lock to win, mostly because they beat Storm 2-0 at Eclipse. Back then FCV wasnt really on the radar because they had just gone 1-1-2 at WAGS and didn't get out of their pool. My prediction is the best predictions are going to be wrong. That's why this game is great. Man is it Saturday yet?!?
MF NPL correct does not have a constant coach. This is correct. This team seems to be playing soccer. Only issue, it looks this way vs lower level teams. When playing more elite teams. This team struggles. Unsure how this team will do vs top teams.
The MF NPL team could do the same thing the top teams in the pre ecnl are doing. It's just a matter of being in the right program with the right coach who has the dedication to improve on what they have done. But it's ninsense to keep bringing this team up. Let them be. This is the last dance for them. Players will be moving on after this spring.
F1 A Bracket B Bracket1. BRYC 1. FC Virginia2. Penn Fusion 2. Wildcats3. Cincy 3. Penn Legacy4. Calvert 4. Tri StateChampionship- Virginia over BRYC*Calvert may go 0-3 in their bracket*Originally had picked Fusion, but loss of two very good players will affect them. *First game loss to Virginia will shake Legacy's confidence and carry over to Wildcat game.F2 A Bracket B Bracket1. World Class 1. Cleveland2. NJ Crush 2. PDA3. Maryland U 3. NY SC4. PWSI Courage 4. RichmondChampionship- Cleveland over WC*Maryland U might flip flop with Crush. *Cleveland will dominate their bracketSeth the Soothsayer
Seth can pick games but can't blog it correctly. Looked much better on paper. Virginia winsCleveland winsLegacy faltersPDA run over by ClevelandWildcats don't tie in every gameBRYC comes close (again)
Wide open in F1. Would love to see some upsets! All great teams!
Agreed. Anything can happen at this level of play. Keep in mind it will be raining Saturday. The more technically skilled team may suffer.
Can anyone provide a fair comparison MF Pre ECNL vs MF NPL, vs PDA Storm or PDA teams
I am going to predict that not 1 of those 16 teams ends up where Seth has them.
10:44i will try and only answer specific questions
10:56 I have not seen MF Pre ECNL. hear good things tho. Just never seen them play. Seen NJX play as NJX, not as MF NPL. Seen PDA teams play. Really looking for feedback. I know its personal opinion. Just curious
Mf Pre ECNL has chance to be best team in NJ if club doesn't screw it up. u14 year is a big year for this club to see if they get it right.main issue will be transition of coaching-which although addressed, nothing is ever guaranteed.They will have a nice pool of players to choose from but like any other club that will go through a transition year of putting the players together, you will first have a "Storm" before the calm of moving forward . There will be some upset parents but team will ultimately be in a better place. It is possible that the club could screw this up but there is reason to believe that team will come out the other side just fine.
FCV did get out of their pool at WAGS.Won bracket and lost to Atlanta Top Hat Gold 1-0 in final.
are we all this naive to think that most of the posts on here are not coming from coaches from PDA, match fit, Penn fusion, bucks, East Meadow, etc looking to get kids to come to their programs. No parent in their right mind would post anything that entices kids from any other club to come and try out for the team their child is on and potentially take their child's spot. We are not fools.
true. Seems like posts that prop up any club and how great they couldn't be are coming from within. Who else would have that kind of knowledge.
Sorry, meant "could be"...
indeed. No doubt posts are placed here to get the peons ready for cuts that are coming, changes that are coming, new kids that are already guaranteed spots that are coming. Etcetera.this blog is a joke. Most of the info blogged here is from those with incentives to improve their own position.
This is 11:18. Perhaps you have a question you would like me to answer about another ecnl club to give equal time.
11:48Actually we are both wrong. FCV went 1-0-2 in pool play and did in fact advance, but they lost in the semi finals to Tophat. I knew they weren't in the finals, forgot there were semis there, should have looked it up. Fact remains, just about every prediction on here had Cinn winning, and I wouldn't be supprised to see teams no one is expecting in the finals.
How many of the pre-ECNL teams have players playing up in age? I thought this wasn't allowed. Must be a damn good player to be playing up. I don't see too many players on the girls side playing up like I see with the boys.
Has JeffCup actually informed teams yet that some flights may be cancelled due to wet fields, or was that just educated speculation on here?
I think that the East Meadow Hotshotz will win the top flight at Jefferson Cup!
Speculation. Rain today in Richmond. Dry the next 2. Rain Saturday. Might try to get teams on turf. 8v8 games may be cancelled. Lower 11v11 flights may go as well.
NJXMF coach does not train the team. NJXMF coach still does not know the names of all of the players. NJXMF coach does coach with cell phone in use. All in the name of keeping the manager in the game and for "one more year".
Has MF announced who will coach the U14s? The information on the tryout link does not mention coach name.
@136 , yes they can play up and everyone knows that. Most so called players - playing up happen to have a late birthdate, August , September for their school year , but are in the same grade as everyone else and really the same age. Im sure there are a few that truly play up , when they are clearly a year plus younger than everyone else and in the lower grade. When they change the age brackets , some of the ones playing up could end up two years down from half the team they currently play on.
7:56. It appears that there are some 9-2002 playing with a lot of 9-2001's. Isn't that a year gap and truly playing up. ?
Meaning. Playing up goes by biological year and has nothing to do with grade. If your kid plays at an age group where other girls on the team can be a year or more older than her then she is playing up even if girl is in same grade. That girl is at a biological disadvantage against some of the older girls in the league. Worrying about grade originated with town teams and was once a concern during the recruiting years for showcasing. That is no longer the case.
What percentage of U13 are 8th graders? Maybe 20%?
I would say there or less. A lot of late birthdays 8 or 9 2001's stayed back to 7th grade. Also some 10-2001's and younger skipped a grade.
If a kid misses the cut off by a few weeks that is a cusp kid and not really playing up as in a kid significantly younger but too talented for their own age group.On my own kids team, the three best players are technically "playing up". They be not be appropriate players to play on age as they are very strong with playing with their grade. When they get the chance to play with the grade older team, that is when I consider them "playing up" even though that is technically two years up.
9:14"What percentage of U13 are 8th graders? Maybe 20%?"Yes I agree. On my D's team there is only 4 8th graders out of 18 kids. They are technically playing down because of their birth date. When these girls go to ODP they have to compete against mostly U14's. Our national teams, at least on womens side, are made up of girls mostly with 1st half of the year birth dates.
Up down. It does not matter. The truly talented will develop. Just play with s great coach. And a great bunch of kids for your age group
At what point is daddy coach should still be allowed to coach his daughter in a club?
11:13, Is that team successful? Does the coach, coach the team the same as a trainer would? Also, what level of play are you talking about? I do not see it being a problem IF the daddy coach knows the game and coaches the team the same way a trainer would
Not when he coaches. Perhaps he insist on playing his daughter than the rest.
12:06 AM, parents of good players always want their kids playing with top talent..
What's funny about it?? I don't get it. Good for them.I do have to question your motives however. Is there a reason you posted that?
So true 1126, not just playing with but also playing against. That's why playing in top flights, high level tournaments/leagues is a huge consideration for the top players.
Good interview. Nice job Coach Frank!
I have seen post's about father coaches and understand the upset and the perception of bias that is inherent when a father is either the head coach of a team that his daughter plays for or has some influence because he is involved with a team in some fashion so that he may influence descision making.My older daughter had two coaches in her youth soccer career that happen to be father coaches. Both were very good coaches and both kids deserved to be on the team.But there was no doubt that their child was given a boost by the presence of her father on the side line.That point was never debatable to anyone on the team.The real issue was how much of a boost!It did not mean that the child was not a good player.The question was always - how much of a boost does that child get from the presence of her father being on the field.1)Does she remain on the field longer than other children of similar ability.2)Are more mistakes tolerated for her than the other kids.3)is she given more time to learn a position than the other kids of similar ability4)Does the coach always try to put her in a position to succeed and protect her. While others of the same ability have a much shorter lease5)Does he subtly shift better players away from her position. 6)Does she get the benefits of being in the identification programs when other girls of similar abilities do not get such benefits.The inherent conflict is always there and is self evident but the boost that a child receives will vary from father coach to father coach.All will tell you Including( US Club Soccer), that no matter the best of intentions-At the elite youth level, it is highly recommended that any coach that coaches a high level team past the ages of u12 should not have the appearance of any inherent bias's by coaching their daughter on a particular team.Having said this, some clubs ignore this policy. Soccer Nut
I have no issue with a parent coach. I am familiar with 2 coaches at this level. One coach record to date looks very impressive while other coach record is a little less desirable. These 2 coaches personally understand the game and do a good job. I would not have an issue being apart of any of these 2 teams. This topic comes up on this blog once a year. Nothing that has happened over the past 12 months proves to me that neither of these coaches deserve to be where they are.I can not comment on EM coach.
Actually, at this age group, all 3 u13 ecnl teams in the NJ, NY area either have a father as a head coach or as an Assistant coach.i wonder if that the same in PA or Va. or Mass.
If I had to 'guess' I think 11:13's post was motivated by most of your points soccer nut. And... I'm fairly certain we are all aware of the intended target.
Has the jeff cup made any statement about possibly canceling anything for the weekend? Last weekend for the boys there were indications all week that the tournament might not happen. Where are you getting the information that flights may be cancelled this weekend? I checked their website and twitter and haven't seen anything, unlike last week
Nothing is getting cancelled. Too much on the line, and its only rain, unlike last week when snow/ice was involved. Its time to gas-up the car, and get granny in the back.
Nothing yet posted indicating tournament will be cancelled.
I think you can get away with this this year, but next year U14, no more Dad coaches the team B.S. At our club, there are no Dad’s that coach their own teams, they also rotate coaches, which I like very much. Its a much more professional approach.
Does your coach do any of the things mentioned by s nut?
That is the stupidest thing I continue to hear, if he goes, we go. Ask the u15 WC team parents if they chose to go to Albertson. Its a huge mistake to tie your wagon to a particular person, because ultimately they are not loyal to you, they make choices that do not factor-in anyone except their own family, and you are not part of the family, sorry.
Daddy coached kids always, always gets the benefit of the doubt. And every patent and kid on the team knows it and nothing will be done about it. We all just live with it.
What are you blabbering about 5:55? And who is talking about Bethesda and that ancient tourney. This is the first time that I have graced everyone with my astute tournament picks, and FCV will win simply because they will have an advantage over PL in the first game. Cincy will go 1-1-1 and come in third in their bracket behind PF. Although your turf theory holds some merit, it will not matter as only Virginia and BRYC will be able to hold their width while playing their first games. Those teams will also win their first games and end up in the finals. It is written, it is factSeth The Soothsayer.
Any Club official that allows a dad to coach team regardless of how good the coach is -is only doing so because he thinks he can get away with it.They all understand the conflict.Some will down play it but they know.They just think they can get away with it. So they do.if they start to lose real quality players to the competition than the policy changes.until then business as usual
No sense in turning around 7:35, because everyone's ahead of you. If they played on beach sand in the rain, the first place results would remain the same. The only flip might be legacy and Wildcats for 2nd and 3rd. I've noticed you have not put anything out there other than to criticize my accurate predictions. Unbiased predictions are hard for the untrained or for parents of a F1 team that is playing. One of which you are, or maybe both. Virginia wins. It is written. It is fact.Seth the Soothsayer
Oh Seth, my predictions were posted on here 4 weeks ago, I will update them from Richmond before first kickoff and we can compare Sun. Tell me o wise one, how many of those teams have you actually watched play in the last 12 months? I've watched 5 btw. You're entire credibility went out the window picking PF with 2 injured starters to somehow finish ahead of Calvert and Cinncinnati. You originally had them winning the bracket didn't you. Even one of their parents had to come on here and tell you they won't. They need all their girls to compete at that level, but the same could be said of the other teams as well I guess. You have too high of an opinion of the NE ECNL teams incl WC I think. And you think BRYC, a team that wasn't even in D1 originally is going to win their bracket? I would have given them an edge until the south also got dumped on, they've been indoors like everyone else for awhile. So unless some team just happens to have a full field in a dome somewhere to practice in these last couple of weeks no one has that advantage anymore. And FCV is the safe bet, but they won't win their pool either. Trust me, I know things you don't. But hey we can talk Sunday, if you're right on half of your predictions I'll give you and your crystal ball credit.
That's the spirit 10:03!! Now your at least trying to back up your thoughts. Those were predictions four weeks ago? I thought you were just trying to spell the teams names and hoping for corrections. There is one team I haven't seen in the last six months, so you got me there. But my in depth analysis on each teams head to head play and knowledge of not only injuries, but players being used in different roles makes the difference. There are two recent injuries that are huge to two teams and that will affect them greatly. You have no idea because your contacts are limited as is your vision. It is written. It is fact.Seth the Soothsayer.
F1 Winning% atWAGS, Spirit, BethesdaDisney, CASL, FC StarsGroup A 0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) 0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)Group B0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.500 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)##################Seth's picksF1 A Bracket 1. BRYC 2. Penn Fusion3. Cincy 4. Calvert B Bracket1. FC Virginia2. Wildcats3. Penn Legacy4. Tri State#################Anti-Seth will post prior to kickoffSorry, couldn't find your picks from weeks ago.to re-post#################I like this game as well and will re-postmy picks.A - is wide open between the top 3.Sorry, just don't Calvert will win a game similar to Disney.CincinnatiPennFusionBRYCCalvertB - I also thinkFCV wins this group with the other 3 finishing in any order. NJ Wildcats have tied both PL & Trithat tells me they areall of similar abilities.FCVTriNJ WildcatsPLWildcard will be the weather.Looks to be warm but wet.Field Type will play a big roll grass vs turfGood luck all
Winning % at same majors non F1 resultsA100% WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)57% PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)42% MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)33% NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)B(F1) PDA AJAX (NJ)(F1) NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)83% RICHMOND UNITED PRE-ECNL (VA)50% CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL (ON)I also think WC wins the A bracket.The B bracket isalittle harder to pick.We have 2 teamsthat have played on F1 teamsat tournaments this year plus the host club's teamwhich did a little better than we gave them credit.Not sure Cleveland can win this.I can see an all NYE final.I don't think this flight has a true heavy weight like FCV in F1to close to call should be some great soccer good luck all.
Reposting my predictions for JeffCup:Since I did well guessing the top bracket, I’ll push my luck and guess the finals too:Championship: Cincinnati over FCVElite Orange: PDA Ajax over World ClassElite Black: (assuming A vs B C vs D): FC Carolina (who beat PA Classics) over PDA Dragons (who beat STA) vs.Superior Orange: CASL over HMMS (CASL should be up a bracket)Superior Black: Empire over HarfordSuperior White: Athletica (but look to Michigan as the upset) over McLeanPlatinum Orange: Century over BlastersPlatinum Black: PDA Shore Fusion Platinum White: PA Crew (Crew should be up a bracket)January 21, 2015 at 3:25 PMIn the top brackets, I would not be surprised to see Wildcats make the finals given their style of play and what will likely be poor field conditions. If however the flight was played on artificial turf, I would change my pick to FCV over Cincinnati now since FCV has been practicing outside despite the snow as well as inside.
9:59 Thanks.It can go down that way - when you have great teams playing each other anything is possible. No really crazy out of your A$% picks.Don't cut Oakwood short - I think the win Superior white and have an easy time. They should be up a few flights for sure. The NYCSL NPL crew can validate what I said about Oakwood or they can be myth busters.
assuming if anything was cancelled or rescheduled this weekend for Jeff Cup, they would've announced by now.. Get ready for the mud!
Dear 12:11.You win the Douche-bag of the month award, congrats!
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12:18 why did you call 12:11 that.I don't see anything bad.
difference between WC U15 team and U13 team is that this U13 have been together for a long time. U15 team came over from another club
Mud = excuses
12:55 - Are you saying that the mud makes no difference? That the mud shouldn't make a difference to a team that practices short passes and ball control? That the mud shouldn't help a team that plays the long ball over ball control? That the mud will not make these games sloppy?
Try outs:April 12, 26 = NJ RushApril 21, 28, May 5 = FC CopaApril 22, 24, 29 = NJCSAApril 28, May 5 = MF ECNL/NENPLApril 17, 24 = MF NENPL North################MERCER FC SPURS NPL - which NPL are they in?################Soccer Association of Columbia joining NPL??
Oakwood is in NE NPL, not sure how the NYCSL NPL crew can help with that info, but yes they are a good team.
F1 - Final is on turfBRYC - no games on turfCalvert - 1 game on turfCiny - 1 game on turfPF - No games on turfFCV - no games on turfWildcats - 1 game on turfPL - 1 game on turfTri state - 2 games on turf
You go Crush guy , send us your parking lot updates like you did three years ago when you last won something....
1:42 yes he is with the team that their club chose not to spend the dues money on to send to jeff cup.He is sick his DD and her team is staying home and is trying desperately to attack the tournament(it will be cancelled, it will be a disaster in the mud,), but the best one is just in case wildcats do well he is already setting up his excuses by claiming that they will somehow have an advantage if it rains.Which of the nj Non-ECNL teams is staying home? Guess who???
1:40 Oakwood is New England NPL this year - last year they were NYCSL NPLNEFC won 17 out of 18 games and finished with 51 points. While Oakwood won 16 out of 18 with 1 tie and finished with 49. NJ Crush was a distant 3rd with 31 points. NYCSL NPL got lucky they went to New England NPL The Top 4 teams from the U14 thru U18 age groups in the New England NP will compete against the Top 4 teams from the NYCSL NPL. Teams will be competing to advance to the National Cup during this Crossover Cup Event.
1:44 How did you get that info.?Is it on the website??
With FC Delco Players cup registration closed.The EDP Cup is turning out to be a nice tournament.EDP CUP 2015 SPRING [U11-U14]5/23/2015-5/24/2015F1 Flight Value Projection = 6,500Should be 7,500 but FSA decided to give their best GS account to their 3rd team.F2 will benefit greatly from this.11 CES Calvert Crew White73 Western United Pioneers FC Red 113 FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 01120 TSF Academy 01/02G 127 Jersey Shore Boca Jr FC Fusion
Not making any excuses... get ready for the Mud! Can't wait. Sick of this damned snow! Let's play ball!
2:52 if you were asking me 2:39 http://www.newenglandgirlsnpl.com/Now all US Club needs to do is Send the ECNL Champion and NPL Champion to it's National Cup and have it's ECNL teams playing in State Cups and Regionals to qualify for National Cup vs Non-ECNL/NPLteams and they could have the NUMBER 1 Youth national title in the Country. let's see how they play their cards.
Why would the ECNL Elitist faction ever want that? They strive for exclusivity, and despair at comparisons to NPL. Its just bad for business, you know, losing to B league team, real bad.
We are not worthy...
PDA AJAX over WC 9:59? Whaaaaattt? PDA will be able to grab one win and that its. With a good bounce or a set play score they may pick up a tie somewhere. But they will not get past the Cleveland Royals. Cleveland will win the tournament and make their bracket look easy.
Nycsl had 4 division champs at U12
Cupcakes and meaningless titles. That's like saying Legacy won the Fall Classic
Why so bitter? It's a game, enjoy the experience!
I wonder if some of you are aware you may not be as anonymous as you think.Better shut the yap - and might want to watch your back on certain weekends.
Really 10:03??? Look at you being the new version of the telephone tough guy. If you can't take the give and take on this blog, maybe you should pick up a new hobby. Like making yourself a new skirt to match those girlie feelings you showing.
Wow, the maturity on this blog... Pretty bad if you can say your U13 is more mature than you. I'd say there's a good chance of it with some of the people on here. So sad how wrapped up people get in this. Stop living through your kids. Just enjoy.
11:50 just one question when you say"So sad how wrapped up people get in this. Stop living through your kids. Just enjoy"What's the difference between you and all these people you talk about?Aren't we all in the same place doing the same thing in different ways? Aren't we all wrapped up in this thing if we are on here reading and or posting?
to post informatlon or predictions is one thing. To be down right rude, immature or just plain idiotic is another. Enjoying and supporting your kid and the sport that your kid loves is one thing, taking it to the point where you look obsessive is just pathetic.Enjoy the weekend supporting your kid. Leave the bitterness at home. Good luck to all!
Win or lose, I hope everyone has a great weekend down in Virginia (especially the girls). I am predicting safe travel both ways for all you knuckleheads. It is written. It is fact.Seth The Soothsayer
YOU DA MAN SETH, for now...
Yes 8:24 the hate and obsession of some of those on this bog is pathetic.for parents to take a kids sport and generate so much hate and bitterness to others in the sport is truly pathetic.good word.Let it go and try and find some happiness in your kids soccer career.It is short and will be over before you know it.
Finally, a prediction from Seth that I like!
psychopaths on this blog, who is Seth? Lets talk about EDP Cup=11 CES Calvert Crew White73 Western United Pioneers FC Red 113 FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 01120 TSF Academy 01/02G 127 Jersey Shore Boca Jr FC Fusion Any chance at all BOCA or TSF will make NJ proud in their own state in May? I see BOCA did win final in top bracket in November against ECNL team from FC Bucks, but that was a weaker field. TSF is always good, they have beaten teams of this caliber......what are the chances these two teams can bring some sunshine to NJ this year?
To be honest, not much. FSA and Calverts are very good teams.
3:25If you want to know the answer to that you need to ask Seth. He has all the answers.
TSF making New Jersey proud? The way they carry themselves win or lose should be good enough. But if your talking about performance, they will have a tough time making people forget about the 4-0 stomping they took at the feet of Atletico (currently ranked 6th in NY make beleive GS points). All those teams have a ways to go in regards to performance on the field. But not off of it. It is written, It is fact.Seth the Soothsayer
TSF chases got soccer pts. like no other club. They really know how to manipulate the system. Based on rankings, you would think their teams are fantastic. Not the case at all.
Every state has teams that when you look at the rankings, you think your team is playing a really good team. Then when the game is over its 3-0 or worse. Best to not believe or look at the GS rankings at all and ask Seth.
at 3:33 PM lol
Finals predictions:Tri State over CinnNYSC over MDUYMS over GalaxyCASL over Athletico(yes that can happen)Pipeline over HarfordRage over MCLean GPS over PumasPA Crew over VA Legacy(also possible)Good luck to all and try to stay dry!
How does TSF chase got soccer points like no other club? Looking at their tournament record, they are playing in quality tournaments and not getting any points from them because they are flighted too high. Looks like the have some points from State Cup and EDP. How exactly is that "like no other club"? What system are they manipulating?
Any Jeff Cup updates on early games?
Wildcats tie. Wold class tie. Ajax tie. Sta tie. NYSC wins by 1 in a close one. Crush loses by 1 on a corner kick late in the game. Didn forget anyone important? Virginia ecnl wins.
If both PDA/MF ECNL teams had coaching changes going into next year they would both be better off.Both need a fresh start going into important years for the girls.
Sounds like some Crush players will be attending a few other tryouts this Spring.
That's what you took from the score update ? STA should run away with the third bracket. A tie for them is bad. They are ranked 1 in nj. Wildcats tied as usual. NYSC seems to have improved - or are showing their inconsistency - we'll see.
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