@11:13Thanks coach Jeff!
Actually I am TT..not coach jeff.
Is that you TT?? How are the kids, the wife, the mistress?? Plugging for J.E. these days, wow you must be really lucky to have such a great coach looking-out for your kid!!!!. I have some knowledge of the practices you mention, and its true he makes them run like crazy around cones all night, but soccer is more than just crashing into your opponent, which is what most ECNL girls do as a default. Glad you are happy TT, it makes my heart swell, and something else too, but that is for another time.Good luck at WC ECNL 02 practices, and if you ever want to see some real soccer, just look for the girls training in all-black across the field, they are the real-deal....
Hey Renato,You obviously are watching through a tunnel vision.
Hahahaha, close but no cigar!!! My daughter has been playing against Jeff’s teams since u10, we know him very well, the Lady Falcons Forever!!!
sounds like jealousy here
6:55pm your posts are very sketchy.- you claim to be part of this coaches practices- you claim to know this coach- you claim to play vs "Lady Falcons" since U10something does not add up. How are you part of his practice and play vs his teams for years. Lying hereSounds like you are starting \ stirring shit for your personal reasons.
I was hoping to get my daughter to get seen by Coach Jeff, but I was told ECNL players are not allowed to tryout for other ECNL clubs before May 1st. Is that True?
9:50, AKA Nosy coaches pet, my response is about 6:11, you are pretty close, same club, but not him, hahahaha, too funny...try Crush, SDFC and TSF....hahahahaha
Sounds like there's gonna be some disappointed teams when they cancel some fights at Jeff Cup this weekend
"I was hoping to get my daughter to get seen by Coach Jeff, but I was told ECNL players are not allowed to tryout for other ECNL clubs before May 1st. Is that True?"They can train and tryout with whomever they want whenever they want. They just can't be offered a spot (officially) until after May 1st. And in reality nobody is policing these policies.
"I was hoping to get my daughter to get seen by Coach Jeff, but I was told ECNL players are not allowed to tryout for other ECNL clubs before May 1st. Is that True?"WHY?
GDA Spring Showcase schedules are set, some tough games for the locals!
4:20 PM, cause we made a mistake with the current club we are at, and they are the ones telling us we can't try out with either PDA or World Class
Don’t compound your mistake by going to WC 02 ECNL, they only play their own kids, and a selected few, sad situation...
WC ECNL is a good option for you as will be PDA depending on your distance,Like with any club you will have to earn your time, nothing will be given to your child. The poster above must not have been able to earn the time, One thing i would not do is listen to anybody on the blog. Give those teams A shot. Just reach out to both coaches and you could be seen at practice.
On a funnier note, the continued fall of the Kitty Cats occurred today with a 4-1 pounding! Good job Cats!
Couldn't happen to a better group of parents. Karma
Umm what’s the difference between nj wildcats and pda wildcats? Didn’t some teams join CSA?
No team PDA Wildcats
Think he meant PSA Wildcats
Difference is PSA has a real coach and NJ Wildcats are coached by a clown. Better luck with MOSA cup Averbuch
You are all invited to Yankee’s Stadium on 4/11, @7pm, for the NYCFC vs Real Salt Lake City. Bring the whole family, especially your little soccer-prodigies. There will be a special, field-level, half-time ceremony to celebrate, and introduce the Inaugural NYCFC GDA players and coaches, see you there!
But first we'll see how well NYCFC performs in North Carolina at the GDA showcase!
You don’t get it, it literally matters zero percent how they perform, and although it would be nice to win, they are building a GDA brand that will dominate and dwarf all others, one ring to rule them all...
I will be surprised in NYCFC will hold on to the GDA brand for more than 2-3 years.
Why 1:28? Are you are a true disbeliever?? Doesn’t matter, by that time my little princess will be in college, and I can say adios non-amigos!P.S. are you buying some tickets to the game??
1:44 I think there is a reputation for WCFC/NYCFC where coaches focus on 1-2 top players to make the NT camp and not so much on the rest of the team - the supporting staff who pay just as much. Why does NYCFC need girls side when they are not interested in NWSL and clearly have no supporting teams? Feels like a weird arrangement.
3:19, you just invented that reputation, I have never heard of that for these clubs. You are trying to diminish the accomplishments of making the USWNT, which is pathetic. Your agenda seems pretty obvious, but your rationale is slightly stupid. No worries, I will forgive your lack of intelligence, its not your fault your mom dropped you on your head....
Sorry! My little Susie will be going to an Ivy League school making huge cash in the medical field while your little national team Susie will be collecting food stamps! It’s about getting a great education from a great school! Not about going to say South Carolina because the soccer is great.
The only ivy your daughter will see is the poison kind, Go back to manalapan!
The top U15 at NYCFC train with U16/17 team instead of the U15. Not sure how that team works.
Sorry for you bro, three Ivies want my little Susie no need to be jealous!
Wrong. All U15 train together. No exceptions There are practices when all players in the entire DA train together regardless of age. If you were at the practices you would know that.
10:47 That is correct. All the teams do train together, and it is promoted within GDA to have players play up, so that is the perfect way to get the better players on a team challenged. I believe that is also how the ECNL is supposed to work. According to ECNL guidelines, there should be joint training sessions at least one day a week with other age groups
Players have only played up when there has been injuries or girls were unavailable on a particularly day.
There is some massive PR coming from the same poster for NYCFC.
My people are my people, we protect our own...
So here are the results from all the head to head match ups between ECNL and US Youth Soccer in the top bracket at Jeff Cup: US Youth Soccer 6 wins, ECNL 5 wins and 4 games ended in a tie. All the games were extremely competitive. ECNL did win all three matches vs. the NPL team.
Where have the normal 32 daily posts from the wonderful PDA parents been after a major showcase weekend? Hahahahaha
Interesting, so I guess USYS and ECNL are both decent plan B options, good to know!
One of them is plan B and another is a C- - at least in the tri-state area. Loved the tweet from MF DOC today on how they declined participation in GDA 2 years ago. In the meantime- can’t even field a competitive team for Jeff Cup
When you are on social media, you aren't coaching. maybe that's where the energy should be spent.
PDA parents don’t need to comment here bro. Niether do the other top clubs. This blog is full of haters who are jealous of PDA, Matchfit and World Class. Why you ask? Well they don’t play to win showcases they play to SHOWCASE. Meaning all the kids play sometimes in positions they don’t usually play to showcase their talents to college coaches. So when you look at then scores of PDA they were 1 goal games so wow that was shameful!
I agree with everything you said except the part about match fit. Theres no one jealous about that club and no 2002 players looking to go there. Those parents are wasting crazy amounts of money for what? Paying Dom's salary? Unless you're on his personal A team you're not getting any looks. This is a crucial year for recruitment and those kids are wasting their time
after watching many games this past weekend here is what I can tell you. ECNL, non-ecnl, whatever. All the girls out there are fast, big, tough, rough. The goal keepers are mostly top notch. They are well trained, (remember many teams are declined Jeff cup acceptance) so the teams left are really good, especially keepers. Many of my daughters games could have gone either way versus the one ecnl team they played and the other two decent teams. I saw balls hitting posts, keepers making unbelievable saves, strikers missing clear open net goals. It is obvious to me that most games were any given Sunday scenarios. ecnl or not. just my 3 cents. Once you get into more rural areas ecnl and da are expensive and hard to get to, proximity comes into play as well as financial.
Jealous of a club that has 19 girls on a short sided team. Sure Mr. PDA golf hole sponsor...lol
Did Match Fit bring players from outside of the U16 team again to a showcase?When I speak to PDA parents they always mention how many players they have on the team and how difficult it is to get any consistency.
11:14 - missing wide open nets doesn't correspond with your gushing about the kids out there. I would dial it back a bit.so gk was out/beat; defense was beat and net was wide open and still no goal. and that's good soccer?
at 9pm. So you disagree the players were great at Jeff Cup? I was at River City and saw many games and definitely a huge soccer guy. The keepers were well trained from what I saw, great at break aways, tipping balls over net, coming out for crosses etc. And I was a striker in college, so yes, I missed open nets, easier said than done 9pm, trust me. It depends on if you wind up and shank it, kick it over the damn cross bar, kick right at keeper who sticks her leg out to save. I really meant two points. About 1,000 teams are declined yearly to Jeff Cup. The remaining 1,400 or so are top teams, cannot deny that. I see very little difference between players for the most part and I do feel many matches could have gone either way.
No excuses as their team at this age is struggling right now, but MFA basically fielded composite teams at Jeff cup. U16 group was a mix of 2002/2003. Those were not their teams that will play in the ECNL this year. BTW, not sure DA is all that. One of the PDA ECNL teams thumped their DA a few weeks ago.
Smart of MF - already planning on a combined U16/U17 team for next year. Totally not surprised about GDA - on the Long Island forum they say a major club in north east leaving GDA
11:02, yeah, and you know about it, as much as that guy, hahahaha.....
8:48 someone probably reading the match fit announcement from 2016 how they rescinded GDA. The DOC is plastering it every week on social media. There are 3 clubs that are semi officially leaving:Fc Kansas, one in Cali, (both forfeited all games) and maybe VDA (announcements that they joined ECNL) but can’t really Field a competitive team in GDA.
There is a team in Boston that lost its NWSL franchise?
Thanks 2:40, you must be a GDA parent, therefore intelligent, humble, and respectful of all players, not like those ECNL douche-bags at my kids club...bragging about Jeff Cup....please, shut-up already.
2:07 not a huge fan of U15/16 soccer. kind of slow. watch a U18/U19 game. much faster. some of the kids you are referencing may not make be able to keep up. can't wait for my kid move to the next age groups.
7:44 pm Not a huge fan of U18/19 soccer. Kind of slow. Watch a U20 game much faster. some of the kids you are referencing may not make be able to keep up. can't wait for my kid move to the next age groups.Are you serious? Tell me you're serious with that post? This blog has become a freaking joke March 29, 2018
7:44 & 11:01 My daughter’s U15/U16 GDA team just beat our club’s U20 ECNL team. It wasn’t even close, so much speed, skill and off the ball movement.
Nightbird here. U20 ECNL. That's funny. ECNL is seeking older teams now to fill slots and stocked with ECNL kids that aren't playing in college. this may not be a spoof. Off to work. Stay safe out there.
How is GDA Claiming they have 73 clubs next year when there are a number of clubs that are officially or unofficially out?VDA made this very explicithttp://www.vdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1231129
Why do you care? Other than you are a douche....
MF did not bring any combined teams... Why would people make that crap up?
Not sure if there is some imposter here. But I am the one and only nightbird. Pretty disappointing that someone is misusing my handle. Nightbird“The only certainty in youth soccer is uncertainty” Nightbird
11:13 - maybe MF should have brought combined teams.
Oh does the nightbird fly alone? Several nightbirds out here. Stay golden pony boy.
Any new clubs getting ECNL this year? Would love to see STA get some recognition
Hell no, if STA gets it so should Crush, TSF, and Copa. They should of gave the DA to SJRush, they have some very good players, CSA are a bunch of morons.
I guess you haven't heard that STA, Wildcats and PSA are all now part of the same club. I would expect one of them to apply for ECNL soon.
Rumor has it Copa got denied DA, but are getting the consolation prize of ECNL.
Oh wait! I got that wrong Copa is getting the CCNL. Crap Club National League.
CSA and NYCFC own GDA clout. PDA owns ECNL clout. Ain’t no one getting any leagues in NJ if the teams are not getting top notch results per age group. And out of 6 teams (GDA and ECNL) in age group maybe 3 are competitive.
Cedar Stars has zero clout are you kidding me! Well either way haters, DA in NC and ECNL in Phoenix this week! For everyone else, enjoy your soccer free spring break.
1:43: Cedar Stars: 2 Boys DA, 1 Girls DA + Partnership GDA with PA Classics.Their coaching staff resumes are very impressive. Their results so far in GDA are not. You dont get awarded a GDA on crappy results without any additional backing.
Partnership cedar stars and pa classics??
Cedar Stars Owns Harrisburg islanders (now Penn FC) who just completed some agreement with the classics. https://www.google.com/amp/fox43.com/2017/11/27/harrisburg-city-islanders-renamed-penn-fc-strike-partnership-that-aims-to-develop-global-talent/amp/
Thanks. I knew Rush soccer was involved but didn't get the connection with Cedar Stars. Interesting youth soccer world, will see where this goes.
11:13, please stop. Who cares if they did or didn't. Fact is they did.Why even argue this?
sorry if I am late to the party but I just heard that the Cedar Stars guy is trying to buy Rush
If true, that would improve their player pool, greatly. CSA might actually be able to compete against PF and PDA....
Awesome!! Rush had some great tunes!Maybe they would perform at halftime.
As in the parent organization ‘rush’ or some franchises of ‘rush’? That’s a lot of capelli T-shirt’s to distribute!
At least GA is using his own money and not a State University/Tax dollars like MO to recruit/grow the brand.Tis the American way-
hey parents, new poster here === I was told by some parents that the only real soccer rankings to look at are the ones on Youth Soccer Rankings, is this true? something about GotSoccer not taking into account the strength of opponents played or something like that... can anyone enlighten me
exactly, fat Mike loves spending NJ taxpayer money, crooks, all of them....to the new guy looking for paper glory, stick to training hard, and everything will work itself out in the end.
this is the least enlightening posting board ever. gotsoccer makes sense in certain cases, and so does YSR. just that gotsoccer is being gamed by the coaches in the north-east and being aided by EDP.
https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club/teamrank/?periodId=894&genderId=f&groupId=4&ageName=u16This is the list, get on this and you’re relevant
Thanks PF parent
PF is a good team, you we still beat their asses, bunch of hacks....
But your team isn't on topdrawer
Top drawer is for pundits and college coaches. We can only admire its irrational exuberance.
What is The connection between CAN and rush? Is it happening at youth ken e'll?
^autocorrect. CSA and rush... is it happening at youth level?
Read this and you'll see the connection...George Altirs has his hands in many places.http://georgealtirs.com/soccer/
He is the Hillary Clinton of youth soccer, except she had integrity
hahahahahahahaShe had integrity!!!! That made my day!!!!
Best of luck to all the local GDA players and parents!PDA CSAPFPACNYCFCNYSCFURYLISCYeah, and to the ECNL players and parents too, there you happy???
We were happy at 8:18 this morning hahahahaha
8:19you forgot players and parents from the 58 other leagues.You are so arrogant.Enjoy the weekend
What about Oakwood? Their game will be live.
Rumour is that LISC is getting kicked out. Perhaps there is space for other teams to join? Good to see MF back in top form again.
MF in top form again I think NOT! Easy game today let’s see what tomorrow brings!
Great game today 1:30, PDA vs Slammers, live-stream, ussoccerda.com, you better watch!
I’m guessing 3-0 PDA loss.
It’s 2-0 at the half I’m adjusting my prediction to 5/0 PDA loss.
Ouch 4-1 whoopin'One thing I have noticed with the DA's shameless social media blitz with all the promotions and highlights, the goals scored are not usually from great build ups but rather major defensive breakdowns by defenders and/or goalies. Where is the possession, build and strike? Not seeing it in the shared highlights. I hope the games were better than the highlights posted.
Crazy result yesterday, Tophat 5, FC Dallas 0, Dallas was #1 ranked team in nation!
shows the flaw in rankings sometimes
Not to make excuses - I watched some games. Lots of differences in styles and really weird conditions. Awful rain on Saturday, near freezing on Sunday I’ve seed big physical teams dominate smaller ones. And then smaller ones dominate medium size teams on turf with one-touch play and move. The grass fields are bumpy and favor teams that are good at stepping up, pressing and light aerial control. When some teams play in turf, that one touch tiki taka is effective once again and the passes just come out right. But this is soccer and teams should be ready to adjust, but they don’t.
"Not to make excuses"You pretty much did....
An excuse would be ‘team so and so only plays 2001 but my team plays 2002’ or ‘the inexperienced refs made bad calls’. You are clueless about soccer, right?
but you can get a bad refing crew and it does make a difference. not saying this was the case. but that can make a difference. if one side is being called for things both sides are doing; failure to properly call off side or call it inconsistently for one team and not the other. as long as the terrible calls go both sides, then you can overcome it.
Isn't this the all worldly DA? Didn't they invent soccer? don't they have the best refs in the country? Or import some with accents? Shame on them.
10:11 does FIFA have the best refs? does MLS? does NWSL? does US Soccer at Sr. levels? college? youth? does anyone? no. many refs are great. some are not. you still have to fill a quota and get as many as possible for big events. With two big events going on at the same time (and boys are still playing as well), had to be hard to find ALL the best for one event.
4/9 - 9:48 am - saw the tophat vs fc dallas score (5-0). and yes, fc dallas was #1 ranked. tophat teams are very tough. loaded with national team players and top program DI recruits.
Obviously didn't matter."every game is a new game" always applies!
7:59Excuses are also exactly what was listed.Clueless about life are you? Did you graduate from hs?
Golly no. Has me my GED (Good Enough Degree). And that's the name of that tune.
The GDA "featured" games are on youtube:https://www.youtube.com/user/ussoccerdotcom/videosAccording to a parent at the tournament - at one of the games (not featured) had 81 coaches. Many of whom were not listed at the GDA web site.
Wow, where did the spectators sit?
Not true fake news. Our parents at the events said it was poorly attended by the coaches and only had an average of 25-30 at each game.
Of course it's fake news.Read the description....no way to confirm bc "they weren't listed on website"Hilarious really!
Confirmed both from different parents. PF saw a lot of coaches - meanwhile team from middle of the standings never saw more than 10 coaches
You guys haven’t figure-out that good teams attract more coaches????
Yup and what do flies like?
So you don’t think the PF 01/02 team is good?Yes, or no.
YesYou and PDA are the most awesomest!!!
If either one of those teams had to play your daughter’s team, they would win 20-0, these California GDA teams are monsters.
It appears kids are posting again....
That response was simplified for people like you, but I totally agree, the California teams rule.
California is the most awesomest stateThis is region 1 by the way....PDA will be leaving GDA so PF will be the last place to go...
That’s fine, fuck PDA, and you!
Is this true? I have heard some rumors that a few clubs are dropping out. I pulled my kid already, it was a waste of a year.
Nothing for nothing, but the DA is a horrible model and is trying to fix it. The next fix is now all 18 rostered can now play instead of 16. There is a .000001% chance to make national team and or camps. DA is a money grab and that’s all. Talked to a D1 coach that attended DA NC and ECNL Phoenix. Stated that there was NO measurable difference in quality of play or experience. So tell me again what DA is existing for? If any team pulls out PDA or others I applaud them! No need to keep up with the Jones and one up everyone else!
tough to attend ECNL Phoenix and DA NC since they were the same weekend. Coach flew from one to the other on red eye saturday night maybe?
hahahaha awesome! Stop with the facts 1:49!!!!
They attended fri/sat in Phoenix and mon/tue in Greensboro. Other than tophat - east is not ready for GDA
oh no you will upset 1:31 with that comment
The only truth I know is that each camp will just make crap up about coaches attending. Blah blah. All we know is that the coaches are always looking at ‘the other team’.
Tophat, the team PF beat? Is that your top team on east coast??
So what’s happening with kids that supposedly left GDA ? Joining other teams?
Great question 4:14, seems like your daughter is out of a spot, sorry.
Our NC trip was not great from a results perspective, but my kid was the beast from the east...so its all good : )
We had a great visit today, college coach provided some great feedback to our family on the whole recruiting process. The coach did direct my daughter to continue to play in the ECNL over the DA. Some coaches arguments-Level of play for U16 above favors ECNLU15 below- very equalHard to recruit in the DA with subbing rules, a college coach may never see a player get on the field during their time watching a game.Some points stating to us from a college coach today.
5:50, no one cares what you think, but thanks for all that typing, you douche.
5:50 - I don't buy what you are selling. It depends on the team as far as level of play in all the leagues not just GDA or ECNL. As far as above U16 ECNL being the place to go, happened to watch the PF tourney where Delco/Continental U18/19 had the great opportunity of playing DA teams. They beat Wash Spirit VA team 2-0. Pretty cool an ECNL team beating a GDA team. And then Delco/Continental got crushed by FCVA 4 or 5 to 0. They looked lost in that game and I don't find them to be a bad team. Currently in the NE conference of ECNL, they are #2 above PDA, above MF, above WC, etc. http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/northeast-standings/All that told me was that the leagues are all over the place and ECNL isn't the place to be, either.
Why do you fools keep going back and forth about which league is best to be in? What really matters is the landscape of the team you're daughter is on. Are a majority of the kids getting great exposure at these showcases(i.e. how many coaches are on the sidelines) and are the players getting offers after each tournament? If so you're on a great team and your coach is doing his job getting his players recruited.
In it for the soccer moms.
8:12Exactly right. We each make different decisions. If little Susie or Mia is able to maximize her experience in the showcasing arena, then she's good.My daughter's team may not have the best ranking or reputation but she's averaging at least 2 nods/contact from coaches at each showcase.She's happy.
so the coach came to your u16 practice to check out your players, and then spoke about recruiting and the process, one league over another and their school.yes, excellent. nothing like an NCAA violation right out of the gate. or maybe that convo didn't happen. either way, one of the two of you is less than honorable.
"We had a great visit today, college coach provided some great feedback to our family on the whole recruiting process"This implies to me that it was a college visit not coach visiting practice....Unless family sits and watches practice....
For all the discussion related to league affiliation Anson Dorrance was actually seen in Greensboro last week. Probably checking on all the players he signed up.
Yes it was a college visit
Which community college was it, Bergen CC, or perhaps Camden State College?
Actually it was a D1 school.
@4/11 11:53 PAC had 80 some coaches watch their games.
12:21, I can confirm that, but they were all there to see the other teams, sorry bro.
That’s certainly not true. Nice try bro.
So Cedar Stars is telling their parents they got ECNL. How can they get it when PDA and Stars have to give up GDA?
Is pda dropping?
It is highly possible PDA is dropping DA, it’s a waste of time.
4:51 If that is true, then I've lost all respect for ECNL Cedar Stars teams are awful. That just means they are taking anybody who is willing to pay
No room for both ECNL and da. Top players spread too thin.
ECNL going to set up a 2 tier system with relegation, allowing top clubs to have 2 or more teams playing in the league. Smart move, they should have done this years ago.Teams that make the champions league this year will be the top tier. Other will make up the 2nd tier.
As I have been stating all along, the DA is not a very good league. I am hearing 15 clubs are pulling out of the DA. Going back to ECNL. For all those parents that kept posting on here that the DA is the top league etc. Well they may be in 5 years, not at the moment. Top clubs leaving including PDA. Says alot.
Any score from albertson vs Match Fit?
15 coming from GDA + 6 new that are joining. Let’s just figure out who is in the premier league and who is elite.
DA has way too many clubs. Should break off from club syatem and be a real elite player league. Nyc area should have 2 philly dc Boston 1Michigan 1 chicago La 2 OC 2 San Diego 2 ventura 1 san Fran south 1 north 1 east 1 Sacramento 1 etc. should be 30-40 teams. 600-700 girls. Thats about how many elite kids there are. Even in the 01/02 shared. US soccer should staff teams. Highschool should be aug 15-oct 31 Nationally and all girls should be encouraged to play.
Confirming 7:12, PDA is out of DA along with a few other TOP clubs and they ARE going to a two tier ECNL system. A and B teams for top clubs like PDA and Penn Fusion. DA sucks so happy the clubs are putting the screws to this money grab!
936..majority of top clubs leaving or did not join. The level is not there
10:22 So now Penn Fusion is coming back into ECNL? I guess they are giving up DA too? If they are giving up DA the east coast GDA is doomed
Don’t be morons. Look in the websites. If they are listing DA tryouts do you really think they’re leaving?
Post links to the GDA tryouts please?
So teams that aren't competitive in both DA and ECNL needed to make a choice and since they make more money in ECNL (and happen to be on the Board of Directors) are choosing ECNL. Both leagues require top players and they don't have enough to support both. This happened last year with some clubs that chose DA and some chose ECNL (Match fit). Has less to do with actual leagues and more to do with which works better for the specific clubs and their board of directors. GDA is adding teams; ECNL is adding teams. Only league which seems to not be adding teams is USYS.
My understanding is that PF is not hosting official GDA try-outs. Ability to try out is by invitation only. This information is on their website. Makes sense, they have more than enough talent in the club already and any soft roster spots will be filled by the invites through training sessions with the team.
12:08, if your referring to PDA you sound like your a hater. Both of their DA and ECNL teams are competitive and haven’t been blown out or destroyed in any match. It has to do with DA being a crap model for kids developmental soccer period. Keep telling yourself that your little Susie being in DA is best for her, good luck with that. When you see the amount of solid clubs or teams pulling out maybe you’ll comprehend.
6:40"It has to do with DA being a crap model for kids developmental soccer period."As opposed to:- being on an ECNL team with 25-30 players- practicing 2x a week - playing 2/3 of a game every weekend- travelling to 3 showcases at $2500 a pop to play in 1.5 games in front of meh coachesBefore you make these broad statements about how great ECNL is at PDA please talk to the parents who are extremely frustrated with it.
The whole soccer landscape is crap! There is enough bull to go around.
Well then PDA hater, your little Susie must be at the bottom of the barrel and isn’t playing much that’s a tough one. There are other options like Match Fit, Cedar Stars and others you can go to. It’s a dog eat dog world, if you don’t cut it you get replaced sorry. Also, you should learn more about what your getting into before joining a club who is notorious for overloading teams while hanging the carrot out. Let’s face it, parents are part of the problem they want to prance around in PDA gear bragging about little Susie! So can’t wait for the tiered ECNL season!!!
9:33 you are just a troll and dont really know - check the facts. Out of all the issues with PDA's ECNL or GDA - equal playing time is not an issue - not a dog eat dog world. Teams are big - but also the bench players get to play a lot. Look at the typical Frontier/SoCal team composition in GDA - very heavy on the 2001 players. PDA - very even. In fact, when you look at "starters" you can tell that 2002 get equal starting time compared to 2001 (again in contrast to west coast or central teams who would start 70-80% older team members to win - but also have smaller team sizes. You can also look at a huge team rotation on the ECNL team (as opposed to Match Fit strategy who tends to have huge team and only play select players to win).One caveat, however is that some of the GDA divisions have a secondary GDA "pilot" platform/league for developmental/younger girls - this was implemented in Texas as well as SoCal - supposedly with its own showcases - but I cant confirm.So, if there is another reason why you could complain about PDA and Stars - is that in theory they should have an initiative to supplement things outside of GDA as the other divisions did - pilot teams, extra games, additional sanctioned tournaments. That's just lazy. Even the FC Stars tourney or the PDA showcase will not bother to create a GDA division.
My daughter continues to improve, and our GDA situation has contributed to that, simple no??P.S. Be nice, and I will be nice...since I speak the truth.
how is that going for Match Fit? they just take as many players as possible, increase the size of the wallet. Average teams at best across the board.
Just ask a 90% of the 01's and 02's how it's going there
none are happyvery upset with the whole college process
whoa now. I wasn't trying to take any jabs at pda or fc stars. it's a fact that teams last year had to choose. some were unable to field highly competitive teams in both leagues. they had to choose one, breakers and pf chose GDA and match fit chose ECNL. these are simply examples and do not imply anything other than what had occurred within the leagues. my little Susie, who plays a ton, is already committed and I am thrilled to be out of that part of the mess, but all of the leagues are a mess. I hope one day they iron all of it out for the sake of the kids. it's very disruptive for them.good luck to all of you where ever you land.
Our programs are a mess in this country. It’s all about the money. The kids are the ones that lose. Constantly switching teams is an issue. Big problem in this country.
What sport in this world is not about the money? Why does everyone keep saying this is a broken mess yet this sport we love for women/girls is at or near the top of the world rankings year after year in the US? Tell me a sport that's not about the money. You want your kid to be at the top in baseball? Costs a ton of money. How about lacrosse? Money money money. The kids aren't losing out. It's the parents that don't want to spend or put the time in for their kids that lose out. Stop blaming the system. Like anything in life you get what you put in
The system is broken. Our WNT is on a decline as the rest of the world catches up and will eventually pass us. Wake up. The Men’s program is a joke.
Totally agree. DA, ECNL, NPL , EDP, etc. Too many leagues the system is corrupt. These non for profits make a ton of money and pay themselves huge salaries. It’s the same model as FIFA. One of the most corrupt and dishonest organizations in the world.
First off stop with the men's game it's a complete joke in the US. American football and baseball and basketball dominates the mens sports arena in the US. No average American guy wants to see the idiotic flopping that happens on a soccer field. Men's soccer will never make it in this country because of the antics especially when you see women get bloodied on the field and continue to play with staples in their heads. It's not about how many leagues are out there. Keep telling yourself that's the reason Susie didn't make it as far as you wanted her to. I love seeing the posts year after year how the US women are on a decline. Where are they ranked now? And as far as all the leagues, GDA ECNL EDP blah blah blah those are all the different levels that are available for your kid depending on how hungry or not she was growing up and how tight or not your wallet was. Stop blaming the systems, maybe you're finally realizing what could have been had she or I..
Our WNT is on a decline. Keep living in denial. The rest of the world is catching up and will be passing us. Has nothing to do about anybody’s little Susie. If we are doing so great why the need for the women’s DA? Why fix something that isn’t broken? $$$$$$$$$$$$ Pay for play.
9:45 there are differences in other sports as far as the costs. rec league lacrosse is still pretty competitive. my kid learned lacrosse from one of the top coaches in the country in rec league. rec league baseball and softball can be very competitive, still. most pop warner football teams are rec league/township/county teams. I'm in an area where basketball is highly competitive even in school leagues. coaches still attend school games to recruit (boys and girls). my other kids did a myriad of sports and we traveled all over the country for AAU; USA teams, etc. nothing has been as expensive as high level travel soccer...nothing. then you must stay at these hotels booked through this place; must go to these tourneys (supporting the uniform brand) - during times when the hotels, flights, travel is highly expensive (thanksgiving, winter holidays, presidents' weekend, memorial day weekend, labor day weekend, and then some). and sadly, it only seems to be worsening as far as costs. in its simplistic form, it's still just a ball and a pair of cleats.
Is your daughter having a good experience?Does she want to play in college?Are appropriate college coaches observing her? Is she doing clinics at the colleges of interest?Are you paying for her experience with the hopes of athletic $ for college?Are yo and she realistic about her skill?Have a great day, enjoy the race but be real and have a goal to shoot for!Pardon the pun...
For anyone who bashed DA for taking clubs that don’t truly belonging, how about the hypocrites at ECNL who are now giving every rec. club in America the badge?? Two-faced, talking out of their fat asses bastard.
Wow, do you feel strongly about this? :)
My kid plays DA and played ECNL. She plays 01/02 DA and I have watched 5 games in the last 10 days. We played teams from the west coast in NC and one of the “top” clubs in America’s DA. Sad to say with the exception of one of the norcal teams the level was pitiful. More bedlam than organization. Many kids without good skill. Dont think ECNL was any better last year when it was consolidated. I have seen the kids that the top clubs think are the top players and they are not that good. There are very few elite players out there although there are some grass roots programs out there doing the right thing the levelOf soccer play is low. There are literally kids on the National teams that are remedial skilled players. Its a sad state for the overall level of soccer here. Its all about winning not playing the game the right way. You will see how strong the next level of foreign players is very soon.
Is your daughter one of the mediocre players?
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