Thursday, May 19, 2016

U14G / U14 Girls Youth Soccer

U14G  / U14 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

10.09
not surprised

Anonymous said...

Did CRUSH win on Saturday?

Anonymous said...

My sleeper pick in the NYCSL NPL is going to Denver - Massapequa over NYSC 2-1 - great job to all the Final 4 teams - three one goal games excellent games to watch as a fan I'm sure, but as a parent the 3-0 games are easier on the nerves, no?

Sorry NYSC, NJ Crush & STA

Anonymous said...

Thanks 6:01, that makes me feel even worse....

Anonymous said...

Congtaulations to the Li'l Rowdies.

Looks like they beat NYSC at its own game.

Good luck representing NPL next month, girls.

Anonymous said...

2016 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships
Barboursville, WV
Opening Ceremony: June 30
Round Robin: July 1-3
Semis: July 4
Finals: July 5

Champion advances to
2016 US Youth Soccer National Championships

Frisco, Texas - Toyota Soccer Center
Player Luncheon: July 25
Round Robin: July 26-28
Semis: July 30 (U14-U18)
Finals: July 31 (U14-U18)

------------------------
TBD
Connecticut
Maryland
New Hampshire
Rhode Island
Vermont
West Virginia
------------------------
1. Delaware
DE Union Orange '01

2. Massachusetts
South Shore Select U14 Elite

3. Maine
Velocity Premier SC Howell

4. New Jersey
NJCSA Elite

5. New York-East
West Islip Wildcats

6. New York-West
EUSA Rochester U14G

7. Pennsylvania-East
1776 United Xtreme

8. Pennsylvania-West
Century V - 0102G Gold

9. Virginia
BRYC 01 Elite

10. Region Champions League
Greate Binghampton United FC 01 Select

Anonymous said...

Yeah, they sure did, but not sure what our own game means. We play soccer like everyone else, we try to score more than the other guy, not too mysterious, but I give them credit, congrats!

My daughter played well, without her the score-line would of been worse, she had a good year, and I am cool with that.

Anonymous said...

TSF lost to NJCSA 1 0

Anonymous said...

NYSC - What was your take on the win vs Crush?

Lots of luck to you guys down the line.

Anonymous said...

Hearing a few strong NYSC '01s (I think it is) moving on to WC. Are you in that lot?

Anonymous said...

I heard 2 top players going to WC are 2002s

Anonymous said...

Wow, you guys know more than me, have you been getting the team newsletter? Top this, and best that, is mostly parental opinion, which quickly counts for nothing, in my opinion. Our team is not immune to wandering paths, just like so many that I have read about here. For us, Its time to start the process, the convoluted and singular mission to get our child on the collegiate radar-screen. If any of you have seen the team play recently, you know which player I reference, long may she reign...

Anonymous said...

Haven't seen the team, which is why I was asking for your impressions of the game - thanks

Anonymous said...

You sound like the crush guy wanting a comment on how close the game was. It's over, you havnt achieved very much in last few years except lose your top players early on to PDA where they belong. Try enjoy summer, soccer is over for most and it should be. Let's the girls be girls. Even the DA will be having their last session this week.

Anonymous said...

9:26 I would also like to know how that game went from the perspective of a fan - NJ Crush & STA ran away with the West, NYSC had to fight back to get the 2nd seed. We already know it was a close 1-0 game - so I don't understand your post were you there? If you don't care don't post. Other teams can be in the spotlight it doesn't have to be who you refer to all the time.

I've posted the ECNL qualifiers, the NPL qualifers, the national league Qualifiers and the Region1 qualifiers - all from just looking at results and if someone want to know how the game went so be it.

Anonymous said...

NYSC was clearly the team on the rise going in. Thus wouldnt the result vs Crush be not so surprising?

Meanwhile Massapequa had to fight all spring to remain on top and was also coming off a strong Delco showing.

The competitiveness of the EAST in NPL seems to have helped those two clubs - NYSC and Massapequa - earn their spots in the finals.

I am sure the snarky NYSC poster is devastated that his team's strong run this spring (it WAS impressive) did not get them all the way through to Colorado, where a team he degraded will be playing in his daughter's place

His hiding behind the "now is time to rest - it's over" - is real cute - though of course we know there is plenty of soccer to be played prior to HS season if one desires.

Anonymous said...

943, but you were at the game and lost.

Anonymous said...

Crush seemed like a different team, I think they were missing some players. We capitalized early, and kept possession for most of the game. We had better chances to score, but we could not convert on some great chances, the Crush GK made some great saves, she kept them in the game!

Massapequa came to play, they were aggressive, and pressed-us from the start, the small-field really helped their style of play, which is defensive in nature, with fast counter-attacks, its the LI style, they all play that way. Not being able to convert good chances has been our problem since Stars of Mass Cup, we simply could not score more than the other team.

Anonymous said...

Did you see the Brasil Ecuador game?

One played possession 1 and 2 touch passing the other sat back and countered quickly both were beautiful to watch - still think that was a goal - but the refs control every game and sometimes they are to much a part of it and have a lot to do with the result.

It looks like Massapequa knows who they are as a team they played PDA Storm and LVU to a draw giving up just 1 goal in both games does Albertson and EM play a similar style both are ECNL and Long Island teams?

Anonymous said...

TSF lost to Alleycats 1-0

Anonymous said...

That TSF team must be cursed because they almost never win.

Anonymous said...

TSF has been eliminated

LVU vs NJCSA Elite will be 1 Fnal4 game and the other looks to be NJ Wildcats vs SJEB if SJEB can get a point in their final 2 games as they are tied with NJ Rush at 9 pts and NJ Rush is done playing games.

plus we will also have the PDA showdown in MA and the MF PF Final4s in the remaining 2 Region1 NPLs left to be played

FC Virginia United and NEFC Elite have defended their titles and are heading back to the NPL Finals in Denver this time.

The 1st NJ team to defend failed STA could not get past Massapequa who went on to claim the title the next day vs NYSC. Can LVU and PF NPL knockout the remaining NJ teams and shut NJ out at this age group?

On a side note sorry Boca but I am calling you out after I had to read all those posts about how unfair it was for them to berelegated and how they will dominate D2. Well after the FC mercer loss the mighty Warrington bombers from PAGS claims the D2 title and will be promoted come next season

Anonymous said...

With 2 games left to nj rush 1 and head to head win looks like sjeb can clinch final spot in npl playoffs with 1 win in final 2 games

Anonymous said...

Beware MF a money pit! Practices are rec level with 100+ girls. More like a daycare center with no structure .

Anonymous said...

Clearly someone is still bitter about MF. Get over it and move along.

Anonymous said...

Bitter yes but with good reason!

Anonymous said...

Don't be bitter girls still together and are working on National championship. Both MF 14 teams

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Anonymous said...

If 9:46pm isn't a coach at Matchfit i'll eat my hat.

Anonymous said...

MFA had a terrible year as a club. Not talking about the teams W/L or the girls' performances. Talking about the club and they way it was run. I hope that they get their act together for next year as the girls who are there deserve more. More practices, more attention to individual teams and more commitment from the coaches.

Hopefully, this was a "transition" year as opposed to a new low in terms of greed to the extreme. MFA's 2015/2016 product was crap for all girls involved. Yes, girls got signed to colleges and this age group is awesome... but did the players get any better?

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Anonymous said...

9:39 - If the Wildcats, Copa, NJCSA, PF, PL, any team had as bad of a year as MatchFit, they would have taken 100's of ads out on the NJ or PA turnpikes to celebrate.

The girls OBVIOUSLY got better, I think you stuck the crayon too far up your nose this morning.

All that happened was they fired a coach, and they are better because of the changes they made. Obviously they needed to scramble to cover for it... stuff happens.

No need to bash a successful club, just because you are not a part of it.

Anonymous said...

I can see why 9:39 says that. I am an MFA parent. Consolidating things in Morris County will benefit the club long-term. Hiring Christie Welsh to coach the U14 teams is a strong move. Creating a U8-U10 academy program is also a smart move. Club results are strong on the ECNL teams but need to improve on the NPL teams. My guess is teams will struggle some next year, especially the younger teams, but will improve in the coming years. I think the staff is very solid right now. With very good coaches at the younger ages and with Welsh on board that will help a great deal.

Anonymous said...

@3:06 Wildcats just cannot lose, I think they go all the way to the finals, who knows what happens there. SJEB is getting stronger looking at current scores. I would not count them out, they have either gotten better or added players in last month or two. Boca will be promoted based on top two? They could not score it seems against Mercer, but their goals against are best and goals for are also best in league Central 2nd division. What else can you ask for from this local yocal team of ladies. They recently beat NYSC and Calvert I see. but have issues with some teams in their league with two losses and one tie. I do like Virginia as well for npl

Anonymous said...

BOCA got lucky, their Kung Fu is weak....

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Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats Fury is 2000 team. Why are they under 2001 rankings on Got Soccer? NJ Averbuch and NJ Galaxy are the 2001 teams.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Wildcats Fury will ditch their 2000 players and keep FURY as the '01s, with the Wildcat Averbush '01s joining them.

Crush are doing the same thing

Anonymous said...

Sorry TSF parent not from COPA but it seems more then one team has an issue with your parental behavior on the sidelines. I am glad it's just not our team. Good luck in the minor leagues!

Anonymous said...

Nothing stable about MFA, hopefully they pull it together for those who stayed, but buyer beware. there were only rec level practices this season, and the coach shortage started way before the second coach left (or was fired) this year.
He was not the first coach to leave and he is not the last one either. Hopefully, the one new coach they hired can cover lots of teams.

Anonymous said...

3:37

What didnt you like about the Match Fit practices?

Anonymous said...

three things
over past 1 1/2 year
(1) often one practice per week
(2) cancelled or shortened practice
(3) past six months - scrimmages mainly

Anonymous said...

2:08 - I am amazed at what you know, actually what you don't know. You are wrong all over that post.

If you think MF isn't overjoyed that he's gone, you would be absolutely wrong again. They are overjoyed.

2:08 - I agree World Class is the biggest beneficiary of the coach being terminated, they did get a lot of very good players.

I disagree that MF isn't stable, they took care of much of that over the past couple of months.

Anonymous said...

@409
I hope so

ask them what happened this weekend...

Anonymous said...

Losses do not count as instability

Anonymous said...

The official 2016 NPL Finals Qualified Clubs
1. FC Florida (FL)
2. Baton Rouge SC '02 Black (LA)
3. Omaha Elite Girls Academy (NE)
4. Arizona Arsenal (AZ)
5. GPS MA NPL (MA)
6. De Anza Force ECNL (CA)
7. Massapequa NPL '01 (NY)
8. FC Virginia (VA)

TBD
1. Eastern Development Program
2. Northeast Girls NPL
3. Northwest Champions League
4. South Atlantic Premier League
5. South Central Premier League
6. Southern California NPL
7. USC Champions League

Anonymous said...

Wow NPL takes another punch.

It looks like both NEFC and Oakwood passed on Denver. NEFC the clear number 1 and defending NPL champion said no thank you to defending title then #2 Oakwood looks like they also passed, didn't see this one coming.

Anonymous said...

3:36. It's not just the TSF parents although they clearly don't know how to act. They yell nasty things at the opposing team from the sidelines. Their children learn from them. The TSF players curse at the opposing team as they play. They and their parents need to grow up and learn how to lose gracefully . Nice way to teach ur 14yo girls to act

Anonymous said...

4:51

NPL has a provision where they can take extra teams (non champs) to fill divisions.

Maybe NYSC will get an invite

Anonymous said...

4:09 must be a parent that stayed at MF or better terminology was not asked to got another club.

If MF is overjoyed, wonder why MF tried to keep coach at MF after final release. HMMMMMMMM somebody is not telling the truth.... HMMMMM can it be the DOC- wait he always says the truth.

I am a PSC parent, I have alot of information pertaining to MF- sat in many meeting with the DOC

Anonymous said...

@441

it wasn't the loss - win losses mean little

something else happened this weekend at a younger age group - well the two younger age groups

outcome not yet determined

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that girls DA decisions are starting to roll out.

Anonymous said...

4:51 Did NEFC drop out of defending at NPL Finals or National Cup? they won both last year.
And which of those did Oakwood bail out of?

Anonymous said...

9:37 - Well what clubs has the rumor mill told you are getting the DA?

Anonymous said...

5:31

Please share. We all live for the latest in the MFA saga. It is better than a good soap opera.

Anonymous said...

High School Soccer Participation
U.S. Soccer’s technical staff believes that an everyday environment where players train and compete with similar elite level players is the best approach suited for world class development. With inappropriate training to game ratios and inconsistent levels of competition, high school soccer does not provide an ideal development environment for elite level players.
With the permission of their Academy club, the program will initially allow players that have begun high school in 2017-18 or prior to the start of the Girls’ Development Academy, to complete the remainder of their high school career if they so choose. If a player chooses to play high school soccer she will not be allowed to play with a Girls’ Development Academy club during that portion of the Academy’s 10-month season. U.S. Soccer expects that clubs manage a player’s desire to participate in high school soccer on a case by case basis based on what’s best for the development of that player.
Beginning with the 2021-22 season, participation in high school soccer will not be permitted.

Anonymous said...

Well 11:12 looks like another shot across the bow at ECNL in US Soccer vs ECNL war for elite players. ECNL has been busy selling that top players can turn down DA slot and play ECNL and still play high school soccer. Now they need to try a new angle.

Anonymous said...

Christian Pulisic is the darling of the USSF right now and with PAC taking credit for him as confirmation of the DA legitimacy, they are a shoe in. PDA if they want it (which I am sure they do) is necessary for the success of the girls DA. It is not simply a if you build it they will come for girls. But PDA will add tremendous credibility if (when)they participate.

Anonymous said...

c'mon rumor mill...so which clubs are getting accepted?
Or are you trying to start the rumor?

Anonymous said...

Head the rumor from a friend out west.

Anonymous said...

And....

Anonymous said...

He said he thought it was a club in the Seattle area.

Anonymous said...

With GPS MA the official team going to Denver - NEFC and Oakwood would have had to pass on the spot.

This is why i called it a black eye to the NPL. If you read the Boys ECNL release it is different than the girls model also which was the first black eye in my opinion. Member clubs will qualify teams into the ENPL in all five age groups each year, while member NPLs will qualify individual teams in all age groups based on performance in their respective NPLs the prior season.

New England Girls NPL Spring 2016
24 = 1: NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS
21 = 2: OAKWOOD SC
16 = 3: GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02
15 = 4: SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02
10 = 5: FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NORTH U14 ELITE/NPL
7 = 6: YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE
4 = 7: SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G
4 = 8: BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02
1 = 9: AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL

New England Girls NPL Fall 2015
21 = 1: NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS (MA)
16 = 2: OAKWOOD SC (CT)
13 = 3: BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02 (RI)
9 = 4: YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)
8 = 5: SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02 (NH)
7 = 6: GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
5 = 7: SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G (NYW)
0 = 8: AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL (MA)

Combined Fall Spring Points
45 = 1: NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS
37 = 2: OAKWOOD SC
23 = 3: GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02
23 = 4: SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02
17 = 5: BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02
16 = 6: YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE
10 = 7: FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NORTH U14 ELITE/NPL
9 = 8: SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G
1 = 9: AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL

Anonymous said...

"Rumors" (not to be confused "Runours" by some other fleeting group)is the third album by the North Carolina pop/rock band Arrogance. The album was released in 1976 as the band's first album on a major label, Vanguard Records. There was a re-release in 2000 under the Dixon Archival Records label.

Anonymous said...

Meant to type "Rumours", not "Runours" as the alternative, so hold up Spell-check Nazi if you are out there.

Anonymous said...

Love it!! Other Fleeting group....:)
Hey, don't stop thinking about tomorrow...

Anonymous said...

Why would NEFC and Oakwood pass on NPL Finals, any ideas??

Anonymous said...

Sounders and Union are in...

Anonymous said...

I'm hearing they are going to start off with 3 DA clubs in each State 2 in NJ, NY, PA, MD, MA in the USYS Region 1 area. Think they are modeling USYS regions as well.

Anonymous said...

By Union, do you mean Philadelphia Union? I don't think they would have girls DA

Anonymous said...

3 in each state except in region 1 only 2??? well lets for the sake of discussion say 2 in NJ/PA/MD/NYE who gets them? lets also assume the MLS teams aren't playing in the sandbox because they would get an automatic.

I agree PAC is in for PAE. Second club between PF and CFC no clear winner there. If the boys means something then of course CFC. But in fact that may hurt them because the boys isn't a great program. I think CFC gets the nod on coaches but Penn fusion puts a ton of kids into national programs and TM is in the loop there. To me the nod goes to PF

NJ PDA for sure and Sky Blue

NYE WCFC I think because Kaz is a fixture having coached several GNT some not too many years ago and the facilities and player success with a few YNT kids. And then...???

NYM WNY flash might round it out. If so WCFC will be amazing.

MD Bethesda is in I think. And then Spirit going to be MD team? VA team or DC team?

Va I think McLean and Richmond United

Anonymous said...

How many posters would move their kid to a GDA club if their current club isn't one?

I'm more interested in why the ECNL has a different model for boys why they never came up with this one from the beginning?

Anonymous said...

PAC is a shoe in. 3 other clubs who stand a chance are PF, LVU, CFC. Each of those 3 have their strong points and weak points from what I see as far as requirements go. Less than a month til we start hearing of acceptances.

Anonymous said...

The boys model is better clearly

Anonymous said...

Most top level players would move in my opinion if their club doesn't get it. Sure some will want to play HS soccer which yes it is part of the teen years for many but there's going to be a huge difference between HS soccer trainings/game vs GDA trainings/game. I know my daughter would opt for quality soccer all year vs 3 months of HS soccer. Really will depend on their future plans.

Anonymous said...

If your plan is to only play college soccer why do the DA?

Anonymous said...

College coaches recruit first from the DA

Anonymous said...

DA will fail on the girls side watch and see! 10 years from now USSF will be scratching there heads to get back to the way it was. No other sport in U.S. puts restrictions on playing H.S. USSF is trying to model the rest of the world but doesn't realize in most sport categories and Olympics games America is already #1 why change and follow others and re-invent versus doing what we do best invent a better model for the rest of the world to follow us just like every other sport.

Anonymous said...

The guy that says PAC is a shoein is the same moke that always has them in the top 4 in PA East

heh

- Yes, we are trying out for DA - and accepting if chosen. Should be a worthwhile process one way or the other

Anonymous said...

3:05 why choose GDA would be the same reason one would select ECNL.

In theory the better players will look to play at the top of the pyramid vs other top players and by training together they push each other. Plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

"America is already #1" you say 3:51 - we have been and our 1st team filled with ECNL players at u20 just got drummed 5-0 yes I said FIVE to zero. That my friend doesn't happen if you are number 1 and that was recent.

What other sport are we number 1 in that the rest of the world players? Basketball is the only sport and that is because it is the exact same model that is used in the world for soccer. Free to play to make money, not like we have here pay and pay and then pay some more to play college soccer that you don't even get for free.

Anonymous said...

Just because you are number one now has little bearing on where you will be in the future. Howd that work for apple in the nineties? You have to keep getting better. The european mens pro clubs have set up a system where players get thousands of hours of quality training by the time they get to pro level. While DA does not replicate this it does mimic its theoretical process given the hurdles of high school in america.

I love it every ecnl girl
Thinks they will be one of the DA kids. If your kid isnt top 5 on A top ecnl club you are dreaming. There are lots of strong individuals outside ecnl. DA should pick best soccer players which will weed out many ecnl track stars. Gotta have those technical skills. So happy DA is coming.

Bye bye ecnl.

Anonymous said...

6:46 I am also happy - not for our girls since it's to late for them but for the womens game going forward.

Anonymous said...

The absolute patheticness of some of the parents here is appalling. Stop living through your kids and recognize this is just a game.

Anonymous said...

US Youth Soccer Region I Eastern Regional League (ERL)
Automatic bids to the Elite Division will be given to:

1. Region1 Champion
2. Region1 Runner-Up

The top two teams in each of the geographical brackets of the
division from the previous year's Elite Division League play

3. BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)
4. 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
5. SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)
6. GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECT (NYW)

PleaseNote all these teams will play in the US Youth Soccer National League

7 games @ North Carolina & Disney Dec/Jan

Then they start their ERL league games

Anonymous said...

No one truly knows where any team will fall in the ranks starting in the Fall. Player movement galore just happened. Wait and see and don't be an ass 4:15. I am the one who said PAC is a shoe in because I think they are but I am not the poster who ranked any team. Not naive enough to do that just yet.

Anonymous said...

7:36...couldn't have said it better. There's going to be a whole lot of disappointed parents on here when their little Suzie isn't on a national team or doesn't get a full ride to a D1 school.

Anonymous said...

Every time I see a post saying "bye bye ECNL" I think the poster is such a foolish tool. Of course the DA will replace the ECNL as the top of the Pyramid. But... it will be just like the ECNL. Many of the same clubs, with the same coaches, and the same politics will run the GDA just as they do the ECNL. Get a clue.

Hopefully more outside ECNL kids will move into the GDA and the level will raise. But it is still a closed system that will create a lot of jealousy and negative talk.

Anonymous said...

1:24 I am here, and it was just a typo.... no harm, no foul. I get the nazi reference, but still not a fan of it.

Anonymous said...

I am absolutely appalled, amazed, speechless when I see posters say that if a girl can't play high school soccer, that's a bad thing
Are you kidding me? You can't be serious if your daughter is looking to play in college....
How many college coaches are coming to watch your daughter at school unless they already have her on their radar?
Stop living through your kids!!!

Anonymous said...

2002 & 2001 Qualified - NPL Finals (Region 1 states)

2002
GPS MA NPL 02/03 (MA)
New York SC NPL '02 (NY)
Prince William Courage (VA)

2001
GPS MA NPL (MA)
Massapequa NPL '01 (NY)
FC Virginia (VA)
--------------------------------------------
NorthEast NPL Playoffs

(1) PDA South 02 NPL
(4) Connecticut FC 02 NPL

(2) FC Stars 02 NPL
(3) PDA North 02 NPL

&

(1) PDA South 01 NPL
(4) PDA North 01 NPL

(2) Match Fit Academy 01 NPL
(3) Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
---------------------------------------------
EDP NPL Playoffs

(N1) TSF ACADEMY 02/03G
(S2) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 02 GIRLS

(S1) NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS NPL
(N2) ALLEYCATS GIRLS ACADEMY RED 02/03

&

(N1) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
(S2) SJEB '01G NPL

(S1) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS
(N2) NJCSA ELITE
--------------------------------------------

So if the girls had the same platform as the boys for ECNL
all the teams that Qualify for the NPL finals would also qualify
for the ECNL the following season so why is it different?

Anonymous said...

It is not just playing the sport for your school. It is everything that goes with it. I know that not a lot of people show up to watch girls soccer but your friends are at home games to support you. Sometimes when you play your local rival the stands are even fuller and the local TV station is there. So it is just the pride of playing for your HS.

The odds are very very low that a girl from the DA makes it to the national team. Just look at the boys side. It might happen years down the line but for our daughters it most likely will not. So if they want to play HS and not play DA you should let them. Then after HS season they go back to their NPL clubs and get recruited to play in college. If that is what they want to do.

Anonymous said...

@3:05 your question makes no sense. Why wouldn't they???? That's where college scouts will mainly be looking.

Anonymous said...

Nobody will tell their daughter what to do but if my daughter makes DA,
I'll advise her not to play HS. There are a lot of unskilled players in HS and good players can get injured.

Anonymous said...

7:08
The DA is allowing High School play, so that is not an issue until 2021/22

The boys and girls side of soccer is like comparing apples and oranges. I do think that girls on DA will get the first looks for national team. Where best to look than at the DA players which will draw the best of the best. ECNL have many players that are not ECNL quality but are on the large roster anyway. The ones getting the looks now in ECNL are the players that dress weekly for games.
The DA will have much more of a direct line to US Soccer and will be the go to for scouting the best players.

Anonymous said...

Did people not read the previous posts. It said DA would grandfather highschool soccer for current girls. That was the only thing keeping ecnl in the game.

I do think ecnl will stay in biz because many colleges just want speed.

But the upper echelon schools and national team pools will mostly pull from DA.

Anonymous said...

US Soccer is obviously doing whatever is necessary to bury ECNK. This has been obvious at the original meeting when they refused to give ECNL any role and now again with the change to allow DA players to also play high school ball. There is not going to be a DA and an ECNL, it is going to be either or left standing when the smoke clears.

Anonymous said...

Why is Boys ECNL different than girls? Probably because they already have a closed system in the DA and they don't believe that the quality will support 2 closed systems. Perhaps once ECNL admits defeat to the DA on the girls side, they will move to the same system for the girls. And that would be a huge home run for girls soccer. It wold allow not good enough for the DA bubble and perhaps not rich enough for the ECNL bubble to get in.

I hope that this is the direction they go in. I actually am a fan of ECNL. They have set up a great business (yes, they make money!) that delivers quality platform to players looking for college exposure. If we could some how get these two (DA and ECNL) to cooperate, it would be best for everyone. The DA could leverage their structure for their teams to get exposure as not everyone is going pro or to the national team - plus, they could support those strong teams that are doing things right and get a look at kids that perhaps might have slipped through the cracks. There are many very good girls not playing ECNL.

Once you get past the first 5-6 on some teams and 1-2 on some of the weaker ECNL teams, the girls are fairly interchangeable with the top girls outside of ECNL and in some cases, i would argue the girls outside are a huge uptick. L

Anonymous said...

This explains why some ecnl programs can't train and only scrimmage and try to put nothing but fast non skilled players on the field. It's a serious joke. Thank god for the DA.

Anonymous said...

I think ECNL will still exist. They're adding a boys side to make up for any lost business. US Soccer wants to make it clear that DA is the top program.

Anonymous said...

from U 12 blog

"Anonymous said...
what does Match Fit and New England Patriots have in common??

Both are CHEATERS!!!

Match Fit got caught once again trying to use older players for younger teams to try to win games.
June 9, 2016 at 8:14 AM"

It was u 12 team and u 13 player- smells of desperation - a u 12 game? is MFA serious? not even an important game

last time a miscarded player was used a coach lost his license

Anonymous said...

Look the GDA said you can play high school soccer just can train with the GDA during the HS season same as now with the ECNL.

We have something no other country in the world has in our College game. A legit development platform. They are even recruiting players from over seas to play the college game and getting a full ride. I don't buy they the college look for speed only, maybe a few coaches that like that part of the game and fits the style of coaching they are using. You have the same argument we have had for years the Non-ECNL club parents saying they are good for college as much as ECNL is. Now we are reading the same thing from ECNL.

The GDA is in it to develop college players and future pro/NT players they are the top and the parents of u10/u11 players will start moving to these clubs just like they did with the ECNL not all. To think that the players playing GDA won't go D1 is crazy college comes before the NWSL, our pro league doesn't pay. USSF want the money instead of the ECNL and there is no reason they shouldn't get it and I believe they can provide a better product, there is no confusion who's on top and soon all the top players will want to play in the top league.

For this age group it means - our kids will be Juniors and Sophomores when this kicks off - the top players will already be committed by then the others would still have to do the same thing work to be seen.

Anonymous said...

Watch USWNT....ECNL written all over that script!! Speed, speed and speed...that's why we need tactical and technical DA!!
World's teams are catching up and will surpass us quickly!!

Anonymous said...

That's a bold move, 2:02, using up all your exclamation points in one post. I usually keep mine in reserve for the weekend! Oh. Crap.

Anonymous said...

1:16

I thought I rad it as:

If a GDA player opts to plau high school ball (under the grandfathered rule) she CANNOT train with GHDA for those 10 weeks

So therein lies the decision, even with the grandfathering - for current players.

Your daughter has to join the GDA team in November after they have been working for 10 weeks already - and work uphill.

Anonymous said...

MFA cheated? I went back to check and there was nothing on the U-12 blog at that time and nothing marked "removed by administrator".

Anonymous said...

u 15 blog sorry - typo
http://youthsoccertalk.blogspot.com/2012/01/u11g-youth-soccer-u11-girls-youth.html?commentPage=6

Anonymous said...

You must be really bored to skip through these blogs, its time to sit back and enjoy your daughters final years and get a life. Seriously your spot checking U11 blogs!

Anonymous said...

MF DOC so shady.

Anonymous said...

Anybody playing-up this weekend in the EDP Showcase, should be a good experience. My daughters season did not end well, and getting out and playing, and perhaps winning, is a much better way to end her U14 adventure. Personally, I am a little saddened for her, and the girls, they worked so hard in the winter and spring, but such is fate.

Failure smiles at all of us, all we can do is smile back...

Anonymous said...

The EDP Showcase is only 15 an up.

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

I was blinded by the light!

Anonymous said...

@419
Why do u care
And your reference. Now that's childish.

Anonymous said...

5:29 Join the club I have been tied to last count I think 10 teams

and all I do is post results -all of them i don't even pick and choose

GS4

Anonymous said...

Do you think it's ok that MF intentionally used older players in a younger age groups game to win? That's shameful and the DOC is responsible. I call that being shady. Also, making empty promises to parents about training sessions. MF should be giving refunds.

Anonymous said...

Welcome 2003 Girls Teams. Is this page officially being used for the 2003 girls U-14 teams?

If a new 2003 girls page has been created. Please direct me to the right page.

Anonymous said...

MF bracket is out. Won't win a game, playing Michigan Hawks, top hat and eagles

Anonymous said...

10:47 How many games will your team be winning, let alone playing

Anonymous said...

Actually my team will be in CA as well, let's see how your kick the ball as far as you can style does in CA. It's a ashme, your team used to play nice soccer in the past. We have tough bracket, we can pull it out

Anonymous said...

U14 ECNL Champions League
Rank#
-----------------------------
1. Ohio Premier ECNL U14
8. MVLA ECNL U14
10. FC Dallas ECNL U14
15. Arsenal FC ECNL U14

2. So Cal Blues SC ECNL U14
5. East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14
12. Eclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U14
16. Real Colorado ECNL U14

3. FC Virginia ECNL U14
6. Washington Premier ECNL U14
11. Concorde Fire ECNL U14
14. Solar Chelsea Soccer Club ECNL U14

4. Michigan Hawks ECNL U14
7. Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U14
9. Tophat Soccer Club ECNL U14
13. Match Fit Academy ECNL U14


The AVG Group Rank (lower the harder)

8.15 Group D (MatchFit)
8.50 Group A
8.50 Group C (FC Virginia)
8.75 Group B (East Meadow)

Group D

Anonymous said...

11:22 you are a coach? I never say my team because it'snot - it's my kid's team I'm just a supporter that pays the bills and a taxi cab driver that also happens to be her number 1 fan. PS. Just busting your horns.

MF got a tough draw but for the kids it's a great draw as should have plenty of scouts that are interested in this age group and that's all that's important, right? Plenty of schools looking for forwards that can run and then finish that's a positive and plenty of schools looking for solid defenders that can find forwards, remember not every coach likes to play out of the back and possession soccer can be anywhere between 2 passes and 30 passes as long as it generates a goal,why pass the ball 20 times and not generate an opportunity when you can generate an opportunity in 2? Come on don't kid yourself guys.

these coaches want big physical CBs super fast FBs and mid/wing players great attacking mids that can dribble past players and forwards that can finish. Any player that can add some flash and shows 100% effort the entire time will look great nothing else will matter it's test time and results are what matters am I wrong?

Anonymous said...

7:48 PM - You must be so jealous of MatchFit that you keep bringing up nothing. Don't you have your back to wax? Or maybe you still have some gummi bears in your armpit hair?
You may be the single biggest idiot in the history of this blog, and that's saying a lot.

Don't go away mad, just go away.

Moron

Anonymous said...

6:56 on June 9 - A common misconception, which I too find hard to avoid. Bruce originally wrote "cut loose like a deuce", and Manfred Mann sang "revved up like a deuce", both referring to a deuce coupe, a 1932 Ford coupe, which is a preferred body model for a hot rod, not a hygiene product or an a-hole.

Anonymous said...

9:31 LOL, I am 5:29 - I know it's 'deuce' - apparently not everyone does!
Thanks for the solid history lesson!

Anonymous said...

Good technical players are sought after, since ECNL has apparently not produced that many, nor do most bother to teach it, if they even know how, it ain’t easy soccer, but its beautiful to watch when played correctly, and at the very-elite levels it kicks ass on your average big, fast, and fastest type of teams.

Anonymous said...

I am not jealous, and nor is the other poster (or posters), I guarantee you, of MFA. We are just stating facts that are based on our experience. You can choose to believe the facts or not.

There are a lot of great choices for our girls out there, choose wisely, my daughter did.

Anonymous said...

MFA can play a great passing game,i have seen it against our team.However they are not comfortable holding the ball in the back and are in to much of a hurry to get down the field.There fast forwards out run there suport.Midfild very strong but backs often bypass middies.I wish you lots of luck in Cali,play smart and you will be fine.

Anonymous said...

First off I like to congrats MF and East Meadow on going out to C.A. This blog is made up of mostly NY, NJ, PA we should be cheering them on and hoping they represent the area well. If they do represent the area well and attract more coaches to attend there games in the future it only benefits us here by getting more looks even if your not on either one of those teams.

Now those are the true hopeful facts we should looking at.

Anonymous said...

You aren't stating facts at all, 12:04. It's all innuendo. Facts are things like, teams involved and time/date of the game. Jersey number of the overage player. Impact on the game, if any. And how you know any of this.

Otherwise you're just another troll doing an internet drive-by.

I and others would love to bury the team for using illegal players, but give us something to work with here.

Anonymous said...

1:58pm not naming players names. Brought a 13 year old to 12 year old game several times. That is a fact. EDP is aware of this infraction since referees had to report this illegal activity. Email EDP to confirm

Anonymous said...

1:52 Don't forget VA and CT and I think MD but I agree mostly NJ and PA.

People like to say a team just kicks the ball down the field. here is my question to you are they organized in the back are they hard to break down as a team? The easiest style of play to teach is a counter - just watch some soccer more teams than not are using this tactic. Strong in the back and get the ball up the field as quick as possible is very much a part of the game. if we want our kids to think on their own and be creative - watch a game on TV at the COPA or the EURO lots of counter attacking,so what do you expect a back to do? Hold the ball or move it up the field as quickly as possible?

The teams that want to keep the ball and take their time attacking play a different game not as many.

Anonymous said...

2:27 - No one here cares. You are jealous, or you have maggots loose in your brain. No more snorting Pixie Stix for you.

You keep bringing up nothing.... you have to have something else to hang your toupee on... this one has run it's course.

Anonymous said...

2:33 thanks DOC

answering 1:58

you cheat , people talk

Anonymous said...

The MFA DOC would have very little to do with the two teams playing U12 EDP, one of which is no longer even an MFA team.

Anonymous said...

Why are we talking U12 please get over it this group will be U15 or U16 come this fall. Are people that obsess that are bring things up about a club 4 age group's down. There is still a lot of soccer this month to finish just relax.

Anonymous said...

2:38 - I am not the DOC, I have replied a few times.

Figures someone that's calling out the wrong person here, would continue to bring up a u12 incident on a u14 blog, over and over and over again.

I hear that they are giving away free napkins at Taco Bell all day today... you need to get over there before they run out.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but thought I would bring up some U14 soccer stuff - Below are the national titles up for grabs and the teams playing for them

2016 ECNL U14 Champions League
June 23-28, 2016
Oceanside, CA

Group A
Ohio Premier ECNL U14
MVLA ECNL U14
FC Dallas ECNL U14
Arsenal FC ECNL U14

Group B
So Cal Blues SC ECNL U14
East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14
Eclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U14
Real Colorado ECNL U14

Group C
FC Virginia ECNL U14
Washington Premier ECNL U14
Concorde Fire ECNL U14
Solar Chelsea Soccer Club ECNL U14

Group D
Michigan Hawks ECNL U14
Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U14
Tophat Soccer Club ECNL U14
Match Fit Academy ECNL U14

------------------------------

2016 NPL U14 Finals
July 14-18, 2016
Aurora Sports Park
Aurora, Colo.

TBD
Eastern Development Program
Northeast Girls NPL
Northwest Champions League
South Atlantic Premier League
Southern California NPL
USC Champions League

QUALIFIED
FC Florida (Fla.)
Baton Rouge SC '02 Black (La.)
Omaha Elite Girls Academy (Neb.)
Arizona Arsenal (Ariz.)
GPS MA NPL (Mass.)
De Anza Force ECNL (Calif.)
Massapequa NPL '01 (N.Y.)
Space City FC (Texas)
FC Virginia (Va.)

-----------------------------

2016 US Youth Soccer U14 National Championships
July 25-31
Frisco, TX

TBD
Region 1 Champion
Region 2 Champion
Region 3 Champion
Region 4 Champion

QUALIFIED
Tennessee SC 20 (TN)
PSG MI Gators 02 Orange (MI)
Cincinnati United Gold 01/02 (OH-S)
Greater Binghamton United FC (NY-W)

Anonymous said...

I hope you're not the DOC. He should show more class and professionalism but maybe not.

Anonymous said...

And for those doing ODP


2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ODP Tournament
June 10-12, 2016
Mercer County, New Jersey from .

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2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ODP Tournament Semi-Finals
June 25-26, 2016
New Castle, DE

----------------------------------------

2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ODP
Camp 2-ODP-Girls
July 12, 2016-July 16, 2016
University of Rhode Island

----------------------------------------
2017 Date location TBD
2016 US Youth Soccer ODP Championships
Feb. 26-28
Phoenix, AZ

Anonymous said...

June 10-12- 2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ODP Tournament

*** Conflict
June 23-28 - 2016 ECNL U14 Champions League
June 25-26 - 2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ODP Tournament Semi-Finals

June 27-30 - 2016 National Cup XV Finals Mid-Atlantic Regional

June 30 - July 5 - 2016 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships

*** Conflict
July 12-16 - 2016 US Youth Soccer Region I ODP Camp
July 14-18 - 2016 NPL U14 Finals


July 22-25 - 2016 National Cup XV Finals

July 25-31 - 2016 US Youth Soccer U14 National Championships

Anonymous said...

Thanks DOC

We all know it's you.

What do you continue to cheat?

Anonymous said...

phone correction- hate this phone

What and why -

Anonymous said...

5:35 Can you be any more dense? I am no more the DOC than you are the guy who has a lot of friends that love and respect you.

Maybe this will help you understand the words that I am typing... you are a stupid moron that refuses to accept English as the language of the United States. If you keep on referring to me incorrectly, then you will be better off speaking to your dog and trying to explain, how your parents had kids even though they are brother and sister.

Idiot, I am not the DOC, and you need to get a life.

You, are a complete loser. Do you really need to take even more abuse?

No offense, but your last name should be Kardashian

Anonymous said...

No one cares but you are a very rude and unprofessional person so I hope you are not the DOC or any coach working with our children. Are those insults supposed to be some form of British wit? Good riddance!

Anonymous said...

9:10 - I have been getting more rude as this dimwit refuses to stop repeating him or herself. I assure you I am just a parent, who has nothing to do with coaching. You should be all over that moron who refuses to let go of something that does not belong here, or anywhere for that matter.

Anonymous said...

thanks DOC

Anonymous said...

9:17 someone thats getting really frustrated can be one of the follow

- actually the DOC- trying so hard to pretend he is not
- a parent of MF, probably a puppet to the DOC

Anonymous said...

9:36 Seriously? You must be Hitler's son. Can you prove you're not?

You think the DOC would give a crap about a complete loser like you?

I am getting a kick out of making you look like the dumb-ass you are.

Nice try - I'm done with you.

Tell your mother/sister I said to stop putting too much mustard on the Big Macs.

Anonymous said...

Thank DOC

Anonymous said...

Whatever loser

Anonymous said...

NPL

Teams qualifying for Nationals and NOT going

Just bad form.

Anonymous said...

I would guess the person making the stupid posts is the old coach,or a bitter parent who is leaving.Please let it go .

Anonymous said...

Time to pull up the big boy pants fellas!!

Anonymous said...

No parents leaving are bitter trust me. It sounds like it's a few of those staying that are. Why you keep entertaining the idiots posts about the DOC is beyond me. You're becoming everything you're calling this poster by responding each time something is written. You're staying and happy others are leaving and are happy.

Anonymous said...

Summer slowdown

Anonymous said...

8:11 You'll be bitter this time next year. Unless you're on a team that the coach never subs out his kid and her friend, and you're a friend.

Center mid, and center forwards = coaches' kid's position, and never coming off the field to boot.

Anonymous said...

Witnessed some ODP soccer today. Seems to me NJ soccer is not that strong or the ODP training needs improvement. Disappointing.

Anonymous said...

8:03 A large amount of girls from last year did not return. Training not strong. only train from April, when the final team is picked, til June. July is the Rhode Island Regional camp. NJ needs to train like Pa and Delaware. Those states pick their rosters in November and train up until June tournament. Pay the same amount of money. Sad, a lot of strong girls in past. Politics also involved in picking Regional team.

Anonymous said...

8:03 So what states did you see play and was the quality better on different states?

For me and thins is no knock on ODP - I pay over 2k for my kid to play club ball not sure another 1.5 for ODP is worth it. Yes if you are on a state association team that goes to the region 1 semi finals followed by the nationals it would be well worth but with all the travel we do on top of the 2k ODP to rich for my blood.

Anonymous said...

And NJ beat PA yesterday so not really sure what talking about

Anonymous said...

We bailed on ODP, it probably looks good on the 'soccer resume' but 3 years of it is enough for my daughter. A lot of people disagree who are currently there, and that's good too.

There are still some talented '01 young ladies there, but maybe a quarter of what was just 3 years ago in my opinion.

As 9:05 said earlier.. we can find better things to to do with the time and the money than NJ ODP. With ECNL tuition, travel, varsity, and living life, it just wasn't worth it anymore.

Anonymous said...

Easy 9:25. NJ went 2-4 over the weekend in the '02 group (with one of the wins against a CT team that was 0-3 with a -11 GD, so not exactly stellar.

Anonymous said...

NY teams looked good at ODP

Anonymous said...

ODP is not drawing many of the top kids NJ. In addition to the ECNL players, many others are finding less expensive options for extra training and visibility.

Anonymous said...

What are these no expensive options that afford visibility and quality training?

Anonymous said...

I was referring to PDP programs, run by the leagues, US Soccer, and groups like Next Gen. ODP is a great option for next level kids who can't make an ECNL team or get invited to PDP events. I'm certainly not an expert, and would love to hear other thoughts.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I think PDP is free - other than paying for the travel

You have to be recommended - it's not a tryout like ODP

Anonymous said...

Although not the case in NJ, NYC area, or Philly area, ODP still is the one of the few options for players in less densely populated areas. The farthest north ECNL goes in the NE is Boston. Girls in Burlington, VT; Manchester, NH; or Portland, ME for example, have no other option, although I suppose players could make the long commute to Boston for an ECNL club. NH, ME, and VT all were represented at the ODP event in NJ over the weekend.

Anonymous said...

And a lot of politics.

Anonymous said...

11:08 - Same goes for Western NY and Western PA.

Anonymous said...

ODP definitely not worth it. My daughter is doing it now. It is money, money, money, but for players that are on small club teams, maybe they have a different view.

Anonymous said...

NYCSL the only NPL doing a PDP for NJ/NY teams (STA, NJ Crush, PSA, and MF C team)

EDP has it's TIP program

NorthEast Girls NPL has none - hoping for ECNL roster is their option or they do ODP.

NextGen how does one participate for this? Tryout? or is it like the USSF training sessions coaches send who they want?

Anonymous said...

NJ ODP horrible, not worth the money. Talent not there. Sad. There are so many talented girls in NJ too. The games were horrendous. ODP could be a great program but it is run like any other company, Politics

Anonymous said...

Next Gen invitations are from recommendations, and yes there are tryouts. My child has done the program and loved it. I feel it was great training. They have a school release program which appears to me to coincide with DA program, which focuses on soccer year round. If your child is interested. But when you get to high school and your child wants to join other sports this will interfere. I highly recommend Next Gen. There are advancement opportunities to be seen by several foreign coaches. Can get a little pricey when traveling abroad though.

Anonymous said...

Next Gen is tremendous but only open to a few kids. Meredith Rooney is one of the best trainers out there.

Anonymous said...

No disrespect but when people talk politics aren't they talking recommendations? if not what's the difference?

Also recommendations from who? every club or Next Gen clubs?

My point is - if the coach on my kid's club has no idea what this is or isn't a fan let's say he thinks it's a waste how does one get recommended? They don't, right?

ODP love it or hate it - it is OPEN to everyone, the only program that is open to everyone. You play on a team -if the team is good you go to Delaware to play in a regional tournament (Final 4), if the teams wins that then you go to nationals. This has nothing to do with training - it is a platform to be seen just like ECNL is. Unfortunately, people expect ODP to do what it's not built to do. it does the exact same thing as the ECNL but yet it is viewed as evil,by who i wonder? They say play it simple when playing the game, i say keep it simple when you evaluate a program.

People can say politics so I say what are recommendations then? if my kid plays then i say there are no politics it's sour milk, if my kid doesn't play then I say there are politics. What happen to just my kid didn't fit their vision.

I have been saying ECNL is like ODP for years, it's just playing for a club instead of your state. They both want the best players to push each each other - what you learn depends on the coach at both.

GS4

Anonymous said...

This is your best work, GS4. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

12:54 the "Politics" comments was ODP Regional team. Same girls are picked every year for Regional team when kids go to RI camp. Not worth going to Regional camp to hopefully make the regional team that is why some kids don't come back to ODP tryouts. And yes they are good. If you don't know the right people , you don't get in.

Anonymous said...

Next Gen recommendations are from any club around. My daughter was recommended from her town club coach and made the team. They can recommend any child. It is then up to that child to make the squad. It is from their talent not the recommendation whether they continue. Some make it , some don't .

Anonymous said...

When I coached our travel program, Next Gen would send me emails all the time (Still do) asking me to invite all my players. Never asked for top players, just wanted all players to sign up. yes decent training, Meredith is just ok. This is a money grab!

Anonymous said...

1:22 it is my understanding the kids goon a bus to RI - how do we really know what went on? I believe my kid but at the end of the day she's u14 this year. Maybe those kids are the best of the crop OR they have what the ODP people are looking for OR maybe it really is politics? Players previously selected have an advantage if they are any good it's up to the others to take what's theirs. A player that made regional that couldn't hang would not be back the next year.

1:25 I get it but my point is what if a coach has no i dea what next gen is or doesn't value it? what then how do you get your kid there if they will never be recommended by the coach?

We are talking about positives here? why make something a negative when it truly isn't.

To me ODP/ECNL are one in the same - both built to have the best players push each other to fast forward development.

You make your state ODP team - if you have the goods the regional ODP people already know the kid's name. The camp put's the kid on the field with other players to see if they still stand out. I won't get into ECNL since it's been well documented on this board great players pushing each other. Both have rosters over 18 and both only dress 18.

ODP is a supplement to club ball to give the same opportunity to showcase their skills that the ECNL players have nothing more nothingless, once ODP was the top of the pyramid

Next year with GDA - ODP will still be a supplement for players not in the GDA.

GS4

Anonymous said...

12:28

"The (ODP) games were horrendous..."

Horrendous how?

Anonymous said...

1:59 Here is one example. And there are others but don't want to trash the kids. Can't tell you how many times I saw a defender or midfielder receive the ball, turn and kick it as far as they could - without pressure...and to flash back to rec, the parents on the sideline saying "Great job".

Anonymous said...

"Players previously selected have an advantage....."

Oh, like the US Women's National Team? That can't be right.

Wherever your daughter goes college included) she has to make an impression. YOU can help figure out how to help her do this. Or you can just complain.

Anonymous said...

ODP Regional camp should be by invitation only. Not open to any ODP player that parents want to pay an extra $600 for crappy training .

At the regional camp, if you dont get picked on the regional squad(which get choosen twice a day) then you are pretty much just a spectator 1/2 the day.

ODP is a money grab pure and simple.

If you think differently great.

Anonymous said...

2:42 How do you know this? were you at any camps?
Invitation only then we have even more politics. no?

The kids don't go for the training so yes it's going to be crappy that's not what they are selling, the kids go to shine and have a shot at the regional team that's what you pay the $600 for plus you have an audience with college coaches. Time away from mom and dad to play soccer well maybe not for your kid. yes your kid is a spectator twice a day knowing what they did wasn't good enough (message sent) so they need to step it up without mom and dad telling them what they need to do, pick yourself up and try again that's all.

Money grab maybe, i just would never call it that. it's an opportunity for those that want to try playing in the real world with no mom and dad where life isn't always fair need to pick yourself up if you didn't make the first round so you make the second - sounds very similar to the ECNL argument of 24 player rosters, no? Work hard in practice so you can make the game day roster or you are just a spectator why isn't this called a money grab? Why is this supposed to be acceptable? Paying for both with the potential of your kid watching.

Thank you 2:30 - I agree 100%

2:29 you talking about the big boy tournaments COPA and UEFA saw a bunch of that going on. PS. I do hate that when parents say great job or scream great ball when it was a pass to the other team. I agree.

I'll tell you what i hate. Speaking of our MNT, we have the ball playing keep away we play the ball back to the goalie who boots it to the other team WTF? Look our kids are u14 and they will make plenty of mistakes that's reality and some just have a longer leash than others that's also reality.

GS4

Anonymous said...

We recently had a Jonestown event on our team, some of the better players (and their guardians) drank the magical ECNL potion, and wha-la they are now all getting scholarships! We are staying, to see if the club will get a GDA next year, if they do, my kid will be in the best position to secure a roster spot, if not, well....

Anonymous said...

They are getting scholarships to play ECNL? Do a lot of clubs pay for tuition/ travel?

Anonymous said...

RE: ODP, PDP, NextGen

NextGen does not require a recommendation, just contact them, go to a session. The age groups are great from 2006-2002. I am not so sure about the 2001s. I know that great kids are pulled out for extra sessions (regional) from NextGen and then even for their select teams. The quality of girls is very good once you make it to the more select sessions. In general the quality of training is also very good, but in certain areas only few 2002s attend, so your mileage may vary. When it comes to value - it's much cheaper than ODP, and probably closer to home than ODP (also year round + camps).

PDP - NYCSL - that is typically by invite from club DOC, but there are other ways to get in. There are few people from PDP that do camps and can recommend (even if you are not in NY NPL). Also there are centers of excellence (same price and value as NextGen) but they start at 2003. They are year round with special invites for select members to tournaments, festivals, foreign trips. CoE is a way to get into PDP from a non-member club
https://www.nyclubsoccerleague.com/html/pdp/centers_of_excellence.asp
Doing well at PDP gets you into a select PDP team and perhaps with an invite to a ID2 camp. Although PDP is initially for NY NPL member clubs, once you atre in, you can switch clubs and still get invites. They like talent. Quality of training at COE and PDP is top notch. High end UEFA licenses. Smaller groups of 6, and an occasional scrimmage if the quality can be achieved.

PDP and NextGen have flexible policy where you can attend a make-up session at a different location, or even in a different season if you must. They will not penalize you emotionally or otherwise if you have a school or club event at the same time. Price per session with PDP/Next Gen comes out to be ~$25/hour maybe more in winter when sessions are indoors. NextGen for girls is basically Meredith - who is great with girls, and great with mental motivation.

ODP: sessions are in winter (frequently cancelled) and once a week in spring. There are tryouts (for which you must pay), they insist you attend as many tryouts as possible, but the tryouts seem to be totally inconsistent - spread out over 4 locations and 4 dates.

Many training sessions are more tactical than technical, if you like to see sessions with 30+ trainees per coach with coach talking for 5+ minutes and then 15 girls watching when 15 girls do a tactical drill - this is the place for you. If you want to see the content of the training sessions register for NJYS ODP under Team App:
https://www.teamapp.com/

Not attending more than one tryout and training session is not excused. Any conflicts between ODP vs club - ODP is supposed to take precedence - so you are penalized. I think the value of ODP is low compared to its price ($40+/hour?). According to old timers, goal is to get into Region 1 ODP (not state) as that carries more prestige, and can open doors, based on the coach.

Anonymous said...

4:31 look at it this way.

better players because they had the opportunity to be the better players.
Now others will have that opportunity - it's a win win for the kids that left and the kids that stayed.

GS4

Anonymous said...

thanks 4:46 good read
GS4

Anonymous said...

Anyone have or know of players getting discounted /free tuition based on soccer at private high schools???

Anonymous said...

Can't be sport based, only by financial need...but sometimes it seems the good athletes are more needy.

Anonymous said...

^^ second that^^ I would know....

Anonymous said...

I have heard instances of about 1.5-5K taken off the annual cost for soccer.

Also heard you can get a full ride for multiple sports + academic prowess. I'd be shooting for that one for child 2.

Anonymous said...

4:46 comments re:pdp very accurate including switching clubs. Your club coach cannot hold that over you. It is purely talent based. Once you get to the proper pdp, sessions are free. If you make the select teams you may have to pay tournament entry fees. To me its the best of all the programs. My daughter has done that and odp and the talent of the girls at odp is a couple notches below pdp.

Anonymous said...

Okay 4:46 so how does my girl get a tryout to show what she can do?
Oh yeah she can't because she has to be nominated by her coach is this correct?

ODP can be be more than a few notches below - but my kid can show up and tryout and if she has the goods it should be easy for her to move up the chain and get an audience with the right people, correct?

PS. isn't regional ODP team free also as well as the FL camp, you just have to get there. I'm not for ODP but to keep it real it is the only fair option out of all of them. Yes coaches nominate players that they feel have talent and there is nothing wrong with that, but they won't nominate a player they don't see at that level even though another coach might and this is where ODP comes in to play.

I don't see ODP as a training platform. The development in ODP is to put players of like mind together and let them push each other to speed up development. The player needs to do technical by themselves or with their team at the younger ages, now it's tactical and putting the technical skill to work.

GS4

Anonymous said...

I actually like that, GS4

Sometimes the tactical is lacki ng within the clubs

Everryone talks of soccer IQ but is MINDSET, VISION, TEAM PLAY being taught enough at the lower levels?

I understand the need to stress technical, but there is room for some of the other. Speaking personally our team flushed quite a few winnable (and important) games by lacking sense and approach on the tactical end. While it is not ABOUT the wins, at certain points when you DESERVE to advance on ability, you'd like to.

Cheers. Keep up the good work here - or if you move on to another forum

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