4:13 I agree - if the league becomes what I think it can and what it was built to be - I would be scared as well If i was on the outside looking in. Of course no guarantee, but Imagine ODP what is was. Now imagine those players all skipping ODP and going to ECNL clubs which is almost happening today. You would have an ODP League, only difference instead of calling it ODP you call it ECNL - who cares what the team name is - it's the product that it can be.It's not but that's what I view it as. The good thing for soccer and all girls is that if this happens it opens up ODP to girls that would never have been accepted and they can now have a chance as well (late bloomers).I think clubs need to stop trying to compare themselves with the ENL clubs. Offer what you can enter State Cups and High Profile Tournaments to give your kids the best chance to build up their resumes. What I don't understand is the throwing mud at State Cup if ECNL is ODP - those teams should never be compared with non-ecnl teams - so why hate on a team like Nj Crush and This NJ Wildcats for playing in almost every major and adding to their trophy case for their kids. You want ECNL you got - so stop breaking on everything non-ecnl. Has to work both ways.
NPL is also growing.Who's to say they wont be on par in 5 years?
I agree this year is their First Girls Showcase. Maybe Next year they add u14 for our Age Group - For the lucky few can you think of a better way to spend new year's than in Sunny Florida. How many of us would go if it wasn't for soccer? ENJOY THIS SOCCER JOURNEY WHERE EVER IT GOES.Below is a breakdown of D1 schools as of today attending. Not a Bad Audience for NPL Clubs and ECNL B teams at this NPL ONLY EVENTNPL Girls ShowcaseDec. 31-Jan. 2 Palm Coast, FLDivision 1Alabama State UniversityBoston UniversityBryant UniversityDuquesne UniversityLoyola University MarylandMarist CollegeProvidence CollegeRutgers University - New BrunswickSeton Hall UniversitySouth Carolina State UniversitySt. Josephs University (PA)Temple UniversityTowson UniversityUnited States Military AcademyUniversity of NC - WilmingtonUniversity of PennsylvaniaUniversity of Rhode IslandYale University
Left on list when narrowed to where I would want my kid to get an education:United States Military AcademyUniversity of PennsylvaniaTemple UniversityYale University
Even if your kid is a great player, why would a parent be more focused on the athletic league of a college than if the school is the correct academic fit for the child?
9:27 - So True" most of us go pro in something other than sports"From NCAA
Does anyone know when GS will update the fall NPL league’s? Might affect spring flight placement, such as Jeff Cup, PDA and Delco.Thanks!
How would anyone know?
I bet the Got Soccer guy knows.
Still games to be played in NPL. PDA vs East Meadow on December 13th. Winner clinches 1st place.
My guess would be once all NPL games are played across all flights and ages.NYCSL & New Englnd Used GS and still hasn't had points awarded. Your guess is as good as mine.
I think GS guy posted earlier that pre ECNL would be worth 10,000 and NE NPL would be 7,500.Probably beneficial for NE NPL to wait until GS deletes old stuff from teams to help boost NE NPL teams rank %. All EDP teams will drop when GS corrects points.Anybody else recall?
PDA vs East Meadow NPL.....So we wait for two teams which are somehow NPL for one seasonRecall - NPL wants you to put an entire CLUB in their leagues, not individual teams - seems they are starting to get away from this (the new EDL for spring is another example). Bears watching.
thought points were meaningless
Points are not meaningless, they just are not a ranking.
If points were meaningless ECNL teams would not have lobbied gotsoccer to start giving points for league play
I thought we were on a hiatus from ECNL and non-ECNL teams taking potshots at each other.
NPL season still going on for the older ages. They won't award points before the season ends. Who does that?I think 10,000 and 7,500 were assumptions made on GS being able to identify the teams. I don't think the points will come close to that.EDL from spring is club based if NPL I think US Club soccer would have an issue if it wasn't unless of course it was just a PL or they did what Washington or Oregon are doing.
A good example would be this other site. They don't know EM Pre-ECNL is EM Hotshotz. How would GS? Or how do they know which PDA team is PRE_ECNL which is North NPL and Which is SOuth NPL - we know that - but how would they?Rank Team Score1 EAST MEADOW SC PRE ECNL  34.292 EAST MEADOW SC HOTSHOTZ  33.46
The NPL and Pre-ECNL season bridges both the fall and spring. The EM/PDA result doesn't CLINCH anything for anyone.
How about this? If your kid is good, that good, they'll get notice regardless of whether the play ECNL or not. The most important thing is that their team play in high level tournaments in top divisions where scouts will be. So if they're on a great team, they attend all the top tournaments, and they truly deserve to be noticed, they'll be just fine. Look at all the ECNL teams that are not great and can't even make top divisions in tournaments. That's a better option that a non ECNL team that is fantastic and IS in those top divisions?
I don't know, 2:59. What does the college recruiting data show us?
Isn't the conversation about kids that are good but not a prodigy?We keep talking about great teams? How about good teams that usually get 2nd flight or 3rd flight. They have players that can play D1 for sure. What's better for them staying put or moving to one of the ECNL teams that aren't as great but if they add more players like that they can also become good teams. ECNL has a Champions League, North American League and Showcase level now at their end of season party.Not sure which is better, but I can tell you I have drank the ECNL cool aide and I believe.
2:58 Are you sure? GS broke apart NYCSL NPL into Fall/Spring last season and it's a straight through league.
Clinches the extra POINTS for fallThe points are given separate. The standings carry over
NYCSL NPL U11-U14: FALL 20149/6/2014 - 11/23/2014Flight Ranking Value: 7,000PROJECTED BASED on Today's RANKINGS = 6,650.12 STA NPL-01 (NJ)69 INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMY NPL-01 (NYE) 76 NEW YORK SC NPL-01 (NYE)121 MASSAPEQUA SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE)143 NJ CRUSH FC NPL-01 (NJ)203 MANHATTAN SC NPL-01 (NYE)324 QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE NPL-01 (NYE)3543 NEW YORK RUSH NPL-01 (NYE)------------------------------VERY HARD TO GET THE EXACT PT VALUE, MAYBE THEY USE THE RANKINGS BASED ON THE 1st DAY OF THE SEASON-------------------------------I GUESS IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN IF THEY BREAK FALL/SPRING INTO 2 SEASONS LIKE ALL OTHER LEAGUES.ANOTHER POTENTIAL ISSUE, WE WILL FIND OUT ONCE THEY ENTER THE LEAGUE IS DO THEY KNOW THE TEAMS OR ARE THEY JUST GOING BY THE GS TEAM NAMES.PRE-ECNL SHOULD BE 10,0009 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON13 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ30 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM36 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL38 CFC WEST ORANGEBUT BASED ON THE BELOW PRE-ECNL TEAMS THAT CAN BE IDENTIFIED AS OF TODAY = 7,50036 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL65 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL71 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL89 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01133 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNLNPL SHOULD BE 6,73717 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX55 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL82 CFC ARSENAL SKY118 PDA DRAGONS305 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01BUT BASED ON THE BELOW NPL TEAMS THAT CAN BE IDENTIFIED AS OF TODAY = 2,83655 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL305 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01330 FC STARS OF MASS NPL342 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL741 FC BUCKS FURY NPL 01
I'm not sure if it's just the u13's or the entire club, but I'm hearing that Atlantic United is folding. I think we can all agree that their current NJ #9 ranking on GS is misleading, but they're still a legit top 20 team and those girls who continue to play will need somewhere to go. What are their options and how much can this impact the new teams? Most logical jumps are to Boca, PDA Shore, SJEB or NJ Rush?
How about Jersey United or NJ Stallions? They both need a u13 NPL team
Region 1 #of teams per GS975 u111388 u121405 u131190 u14952 u15648 u16585 u17490 u18296 u19
Based off of GSu15 3,569 teams Nationally (2% ECNL)u16 2,677 teams Nationally (3% ECNL)u17 2,236 teams Nationally (3% ECNL)u18 1,957 teams Nationally (4% ECNL)The ECNL makes up 3% of all the u15-u18 Teams Nationally that GS has in their database.Are we still going to question if ECNL is the place to be or what? Let's leave ECNL alone - it by far is the place to be if you are a top athlete in the sport. That doesn't mean all the top Athletes play their, because youth soccer offers many opportunities for top athletes.Your friendly neighborhood GS guy.
Uhhh..I think we are going to say that ECNL is the place to be if you are a top athlete in the sport with a top level bank account to go along.
Have to agree. The ECNL would not be a good fit for a top player of limited means.
6:21 & 6:46All top teams cost, because top tournaments (Jeff, WAGS, Discovery, Disney, FC Stars, Surf) are overnight stays.If a kid is a top athlete in any sport the parents pay.
Are you suggesting that a talented player without the means to join an elite team and attend big tournaments just quits the sport?
If you don't get your kid to Disney they may as well hang up their cleats.
What about Universal Studios, or Sea World? I heard those are important too!
For all those top teams that can't make it out of their brackets, they provide a place to kill some time before heading back to the airport.
So says the jealous parent whose team hasn't won a tournament in the last 12 months
Ok.. You convinced me. In spite of soccer being the sport of masses across the globe, here it is the sport of kings. What idiot player who is not jetting off to top tournaments thinks they are worthy of even stepping on the pitch.
Wait a second - do you guys actually think Soccer doesn't cost a lot of money to play overseas at the youth level?What do you think? Every kid that plays for free. If a kid is identified it's one thing but if you want your kid to train with top clubs like we do here. You have people driving many miles where gas costs ~$2 a liter (~$8 a gallon) in addition to training costs. How many people in these small towns and villages do you think can actually afford soccer?
Who is talking about free? There is significant middle ground between free and hotels and plane tickets. Even $8 a gallon is not overnight stays and plane rides.
Unless any of you guys are from another country you have no idea what I'm talking about.What will be the excuse be if ECNL was for Free?I don't think anyone would have a problem with roster size then, more opportunities right? or should they drop it to 15?3% of all the teams producing what % of the D1 players in only 5 years?
8:42 and these countries are the same size as the ours right?
Can you clarify what side of this argument are you on? Do top players need to come from $$$ or not?
8:47 if ecnl were free than you wouldn't see the expanded roster size because there would be no financial incentive to deal with all the unnecessary crap the inflated rosters bring.there would also be no inflated rosters on the B or C teams either, which never made any sense other than increased financial profit per team for the club anyway. What does ecnl league have to do with expanded rosters on the non-ecnl teams (B and C Teams) in the ecnl clubs anyway.Like those bubble players on the outside of dragons, ajax and the other npl teams rosters are really ever going to see any ecnl league action.Please.
UEFA u17Qualifying round:Elite round:Final tournament:Plus other tournaments and friendliesThat's 3 overnight stays with either a plane or train ticket needed unless you plan on driving, cheap right? not the sport of kings?
How did we jump in U17 international team competition?
Anyway. I stand by the idea that you don't need to fly to tournaments in Disney to become a great player but I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Lots of folks are certainly making a tidy profit off the other side of this argument.
8:55 I'm just saying if you have an elite athlete (womens soccer) parents are going to pay regardless of where they live.8:57 Did you say NO inflated rosters? How are the clubs going to finance this if they only roster 18? You seem to know it all break down the following costs for me:Field RentalsField MaintLightsInsuranceLeaguesTournamentsRef FeesCoach SalaryHow much per person?How do you know they won't see any ECNL league action and why do you care? They won't be on your kid's team if they are so elite.
Some said sport of kings in the states compared to globally.I'm just saying we need to compare apples to apples if we are going down that path. u17 ECNL (Played in a country as big as europe minus Russia)U17 UEFA only other tournament that comes close at the youth level. No Country is as big and no country besides Germany comes close to the player pool we have so we have to combine countries.That's my thinking and why I brought up UEFA
"3% of all the teams producing what % of the D1 players in only 5 years?"This is what I mean by flawed data. Looking at the number of teams in GS to get a percentage is idiotic as many of those teams no longer exist, are double counted or are rec teams that played in an all-star tournament. Many of the remaining travel teams are from clubs that never produced college recruits. Most are lower level teams including many from ECNL clubs so ECNL is relying in part on the lack of success of their B and C teams to promote their A team.The truth is that the clubs in ECNL were already producing a large percentage of the college recruits before ECNL. With all of its promotions, why doesn't ECNL publish numbers show how significantly MORE players are getting scholarships from their clubs then before? Because they can't. Anyone who says that the league made a huge difference is delusional and has just bought into their marketing materials.
"Sport of Kings"If you have an elite athlete in any sport or you think your kid is, it will cost you. You think AAU Basketball or Hockey or Volleyball or Field Hockey or Lacrosse or Cheer is cheap then you are kidding yourselfs.Disney has national events for all those sports and more. Soccer is not the only sport that costs money.
I did not realize we are talking about the one kid form the tri-state area that is headed to US U17 National team. Go ahead...fly her to Disney.
9:19Okay if it's idiotic - you can prove that they don't produce ODP players right? or are you just guessing?You are also making the assumption that all teams use GS, aren't you? GS was easy to put together the numbers it's not exact but it gives us an idea? Maybe you have a better way to compile the data, would love to hear it.Also do you think soccer clubs are fortune 500 companies that keep stats that you are looking for. The DA and ECNL are killing Region1 and ODP - you want to bet most people that have a problem with ECNL have some ties to USYSA/Region1/ODP. They are just upset the money is going some where else.
9:26 Non-ECNL NJ team has traveled toVA, PA, VA and MD in the last year they have WV and maybe IN to go.How is this any different than an ECNL team?SO ECNL has ~3% of all the teams playing soccer nationally and Non-ECNl teams travel just as much if not more in addition to some having rosters in excess of 18. My bet the cost is not very different for the teams in the business of sending players to college ECNl vs NON-ECNLLet's not for get the North American Super Y finals start today to crown our age groups 1st National Champion
9:25 I agree - it always comes back to Money and roster size when you look at the stats ECNL vs NON-ECNL.A league that has been around for only 5 years is putting up some sick stats. Some people want you to believe that thee are only 154 Clubs in the country that are in the business of sending kids to college and it's a 50/50 split.ECNL has 77 ClubsThe USA has 50 states and to think we only have 154 clubs that produce top athletes is insane. if you don't like 3% - what do you think it is to make it not flawed? Can't wait to read this.
Has anyone seen the below yet? http://resources.ussoccer.com/2015womensworldcup/wwc-girls-camp-brochure.pdfI guess it is the sport of kings!check out the cost
10:50, Yes, well, my daughter wants an Umpa-Lumpa also, doesn’t mean she is getting one.
Did you see all that's included but that price is just CRAZY. But make no mistakes that wasn't put together with my kid in mind and I'm okay with that. An experience like that should cost - keep in mind that's for the kids that will never get to that level and have parents that can make a serious donation. Keep in mind the USSF pays the salary of the WNT players playing in NWSL.
Can a king really afford that?
That brochure was probably emailed to every ECNL family in the country. They know where to look for the donations!
It is on a first come first serve basis, UNLESS you are ECNL, then you go to the front of the line. Remember you will have to correctly perform/demonstrate the classified ECNL handshake first (or provide the secret Illuminati code).
There was a separate offering for ECNL families. A couple of grand more but it includes a really cool patch and a private breakfast with some top college caoches.
9:13am what a joke?How do you think the clubs have been paying those costs of running a team all these years WITHOUT inflating rosters above the 18 player limit?There IS plenty of money from the exorbitant dues already being paid at any of these clubs(45-50K per team per year coming in to club for a normal 18 player roster with each family paying around $2500. per month, of that at most $10K-$12K. paid to coach and trainer per year leaving way more than enough to covertournament and league fees, ref fees and field rental with a tidy profit left over for the club.This new inflated roster scam if it flies means every dime paid in dues to club above the 18th player goes directly to the clubs net profit line as there is NO ADDITIONAL COST to roster above 18 to a team.(1 coach per team, 1 trainer per team per session, 1 league fee per team, 1 set of refs per game per team,1 application fee for each tournament the team enters,etc.).And you sir are not only buying this scam, you are running interference for these clubs who are putting this over on you and other naive parents.
Can't speak for other ages, but my daughter's pre-ECNL club charges about $2500 for the year. With travel this fall and spring to CT, LI, MD, MA, and VA twice, that's probably another $2000 you can add on.Most expensive club at this age I've heard of Eagles, in southern CA. They charge about $10,000/year, but their schedule seems to be mostly tournaments.$2500/month is $30,000 for the year. What club charges this much? What age?
You can roster 18 or lessBut when you get 4-5 injuries at the same time, lots of luck.
ECNL U14 SHOWCASE & JR ECNL EVENT GREER | MAY 9-10, 2015PRE-ECNL U13 DIVISIONEast Meadow Soccer Club Pre-ECNL U13FC Virginia Pre-ECNL U13MatchFit Pre-ECNL U13PDA Pre-ECNL U13Penn Fusion SA Pre-ECNL U13Atlanta Fire Pre-ECNL U13Bethesda SC Pre-ECNL U13Birmingham United Pre-ECNL U13Carolina Elite Soccer Academy Pre-ECNL U13Concord Fire Pre-ECNL U13GSA Pre-ECNL U13Maryland United FC Pre-ECNL U13Mclean Youth Soccer Pre-ECNL U13Ohio Premier Pre-ECNL U13Richmond United Pre-ECNL U13West Florida Flames Pre-ECNL U13Vardar Pre-ECNL U13Ohio Elite SA Pre-ECNL U13
Oh boy, 1:42, that looks like a pro-ECNL post disguised as a simple listing of applied teams at a tournament. I hope you have you're ready for:ECNL is expensive!There are non-ECNL players on current D1 rosters!ECNL does not guarantee a spot on a college roster someday!ECNL clubs roster more than 18!Playing time is limited for non-starters on ECNL teams!Changing teams will make my daughter sad!
ar·ro·gantˈerəɡənt/adjectiveadjective: arroganthaving or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.
Lord knows we won't tolerate any arrogance on this board. All of you, and all of your children, are above-average.
1:33 point is rosters above 18 are not necessary to cover a clubs expenses.and 18 rostered players was enough to handle injuries from time immemorial.Stop trying to sell this blatant cash grab.We are not all that stupid.
Well some are that stupid..
Is that your comeback to 3% of all the teams nationally u15-u18 send a crazy amount of kids to D1 schools?Oh yeah the data is flawed and not everyone can afford it and it's a cash grab of course the 3% of teams NATIONALLY sending what was the % again to D1 schools is irrelevant - I guess.
It's but one of six standard comebacks:ECNL is expensive!There are non-ECNL players on current D1 rosters!ECNL does not guarantee a spot on a college roster someday!ECNL clubs roster more than 18!Playing time is limited for non-starters on ECNL teams!Changing teams will make my daughter sad!
Current NJ/PA/NY players in national team pools:U14 (3)-NJ: PDA-PA: PF (formerly of SJEB); FC Bucks-NY: noneU15 (4)-NJ: PDA (x2)-PA: PF (x2)-NY: noneU17 (3)-NJ: PDA-PA: PF (x2)-NY: noneU18 (1)-NJ: none-PA: FC Revolution-NY: noneU20 (2)-NJ: PDA; MF-PA: none-NY: noneU23 (2)-NJ: PDA-PA: none-NY: (Club Team Unknown)So all of you who are keeping track who think your daughter's team is the greatest and your daughter is the greatest on that team and there's no way she isn't national team caliber, spanning 9 years of players there are only 16 girls competing with our national team pools. And for all of you ECNL haters, all but one of those girls comes from an ECNL team. It's where the best of the best play. Please stop putting it down. Whether you think it's over priced or your daughter likes her own teammates too much to leave, it's still the cream of the crop. Deal with it.
How did that U17 team do lately?
Applied Teams TBD – since these tournaments don’t publish their listAnd it’s more of a guessing game.MANHATTAN SC KICK-OFF CLASSIC 2015Morris United STA Spring Invitational 2015NJ Wildcats Spring Kickoff InvitationalMAPS 2015 SPRING CHALLENGE [GIRLS]2015 Jefferson Cup Girls Weekend (U10-U14)New Jersey Cup 2015Match Fit Academy FC Invitational 20152015 PDA SPRING KICKOFFEDP CUP 2015 SPRING [U11-U14]-------------------------------------16th Annual FC DELCO Players Cup5/22/2015-5/25/2015Girls U13DMS Soccer GU13 Academy (NYW)Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue (MD)Bethesda SC Academy 2001 White (MD)Boston breakers Academy GU13 ECNL (MA)Herndon Youth Soccer Hooligans (VA)Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies (NYE)Medford SC Hurricanes (NJ)Smithtown Stars (NYE)Waza FC East 02 Juniors (MI)-------------------------------------ECNL U14 SHOWCASE & JR ECNL EVENT GREER | MAY 9-10, 2015PRE-ECNL U13 DIVISIONEast Meadow Soccer Club Pre-ECNL U13FC Virginia Pre-ECNL U13MatchFit Pre-ECNL U13PDA Pre-ECNL U13Penn Fusion SA Pre-ECNL U13Atlanta Fire Pre-ECNL U13Bethesda SC Pre-ECNL U13Birmingham United Pre-ECNL U13Carolina Elite Soccer Academy Pre-ECNL U13Concord Fire Pre-ECNL U13GSA Pre-ECNL U13Maryland United FC Pre-ECNL U13Mclean Youth Soccer Pre-ECNL U13Ohio Premier Pre-ECNL U13Richmond United Pre-ECNL U13West Florida Flames Pre-ECNL U13Vardar Pre-ECNL U13Ohio Elite SA Pre-ECNL U13
It is the strongest league. It excludes many players.
You tell me, 4:36. Here's what I've found going back a little over a year:u17 vs Korea Republic 7-0 Winu17 vs Korea Republic 4-1 Winu17 vs Japan 2-1 Winu17 vs New Zealand 2-0 Winu17 vs. China 4-0 Winu17 vs. Jamaica 8-0u17 vs Mexico 1-1 (Loss in PKs)u17 vs. Canada 2-0 Winu17 vs. Guatemala 7-0 Winu17 vs. Trinidad & Tobago 8-0 Win
What happened is shortcuts. teaching headers and set plays and first to the ball without demanding skill in passing thinking and and bringing the ball the down and the ability to make your way out of tight spaces with your feet and IQ.This takes too long. easier to teach concept of booting the ball down the field and step to the ball.Teach the skill and IQ first then the headers and first to the ball mentality and set pieces.So many clubs just go right to the second part without taking time on 1st part because they want to win the game so that can brag on these blogs about how good their team is and for the coaches to stroke their own egos and line their own pockets by attracting players to their club because of the early win loss record.Parents say this team must be good after all they win a lot of games and they enter the highest tournaments.Unfortunately ,this is conversation starts at u9 and continue through the youth experience.It will never change until developing difference makers is profitable for the club.The model is all wrong.
Bubble players on ecnl npl should pack up now. Only way your gonna get more minutes is if someone gets injured. Sad but true. Or you will get a email stating during the off season you can come to your trainers special technical training for $250 for six sessions. Its not mandatory but its highly recommended. Why don't you do this great technical training during the season. The season that costs $10000. Can you say pay to play. Lol. But make sure you make the checks out to the trainer personally. Or you can pay cash.
Really 9:08?I think you are off your rocker.Which teams do not team from bottom up? Which teams do NO tech training whatsoever, go right to the set piece simulation and full field scrimmage?You like to watch a team, then imnagine their practice sessions, but the link is not right in your mind.
Every team is working on skills in practice.passing and receiving, 1st touch, moving off the ball, and combination play.How do you practice being first to the ball anyway?I'm sure every coach wants his players to be first to the ball right?that cannot be a negative, but other than encouraging and motivating your players as to its importance, I don't see how you can practice that.And after watching most of the teams on this site, I have yet to see any with a whole lot of intricate set piece plays so I doubt they are spending an inordinate amount of practice time on set pieces.What a ignorant comment.
9:53 Do you know the answer to that question 3% of all clubs nationally pushing what % of their players to D1?All that money must be worth it.
Before you call the 3% flawed again. Just looking at the NJ/NY/PA State CupsECNL teams represent 5% of the teams that are playing for a state cup.I think that's apples to apples.
Day 1 @ the Super Y finalsNorthern Virginia Majestics 0:2Rage SC VA Alliance 0:5 Long Island Rough RidersGold Soccer Academy 0:2 Grand Rapids Crew JuniorsDDYSC Wolves 1:2 Orlando City SCAtlanta Fire United 0:1 WAZA FC EastAnnandale United Majestics FC 2:2 Patriot FC
Can someone pls explain "pre ecnl" to me? Which league do these teams play in now ? What is the point of having that designation in their name ? And do any new teams ever join ecnl or is it always the same ? Thanks.
I saw this post about Greer SC. The list of teams attending are all ECNL teams. Why are there no NON Ecnl teams attending. I am reading many posts about cost for ECNL. These NON Ecnl team seem to do more travel by attending more tournaments. Wouldn't the cost be just a high for these teams?
6:571. Northeast Girls NPL - pre-ECNl flight2. point = team identification3. No new teams - Only NEW players as they are ready to switch -so instead of trying out for ODP and train a few times a year - they made a league for these players to participate in. You can read this board for the pros and cons based on opinions.
8:09 It's a u14 Showcase/ECNL jr event.
GS Points AwardedLooks like my projection @ December 4, 2014 at 4:47 PMwas spot on. The Flight value dropped by 350 from Begining of Seasonto the End.Waiting for New England NPL toaward points.-------------------------------------------NYCSL NPL U11-U14: FALL 201Girls U13 NPLFlight Ranking Value: 6,6504498 NEW YORK SC NPL-01 (NYE)1950 STA NPL-01 (NJ)3440 NJ CRUSH FC NPL-01 (NJ)2776 MANHATTAN SC NPL-01 (NYE) 1543 INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMY NPL-01 (NYE)1286 MASSAPEQUA SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE)0601 QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE NPL-01 (NYE)0000 NEW YORK RUSH NPL-01 (NYE) -------------------------------------------New NYE Top 10WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTONEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZNEW YORK SC G01 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01ISA 01 NPLALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNLMASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIESSACHEM SPEEDMANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDESABA BROOKLYN CITYNew NJ Top 10STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCHPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMNJCSA GALAXYMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPTSF ACADEMY 01/02GNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMINEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUEATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE
0000 NEW YORK RUSH NPL-01 (NYE) Wow, that’s a lot of zeros, do more zeros equal more points?
@12:49Does your team play the way they practice?-Soccer Nut-
After all points awarded for fall leagues GS in NJ should look like this:1) STA2) Storm3) Wildcats4) AJAX5) MF NPL6) MF Pre-ECNL7) Dragons
I wish they would freeze the points for awhile. I keep having to change my order for the number on the foam finger.
That was quick. from Number 1 in the country to number 3 in the state.Got Soccer is not a ranking system.Just keep up the points so you can enter top tourneys with the big boys.
9:08 isn't ignorant at all. Just not making point. How about I try. I don't care what you're doing at practice. There are teams that do exactly what 9:08 said on game day. I'll leave that to you to figure out who.
Does anyone know which teams have been accepted to the champions league??
9:08- and your point is if a team is first to the ball and converts restarts on game day that is somehow a negative.I repeat that was a totally ignorant comment.
Pre-ECNL is a made up name. Not a true part of ECNL. It is only used by the NE.
9:08 and 2:03-also while it is important to practice bringing the ball down and there are times where that is appropriate, if you watch the college game you will see at least 75% of the time air balls are headed not brought down.there just isn't as much time and space at that level.Players at the next level must be able and willing headers. Particularly for defenders at the next level they must be very strong in the air or they will not see the field.
4;39while I agree with you-I thought the post was in response to the article about what's wrong with our teams at the highest level. -Soccer Nut-
4:39 your point is correct, but the percentage of head balls in even much higher in relation to the % of air balls brought down and controlled in th womens college and pro game.I have been to over 100 womens college and pro games and have watched many more than that on TV and I can say without hesitation that the number of air balls brought down and controlled with the chest or thigh is maybe, maybe 3 per game on average at that level, while I have never seen one of those games where there were not at least 40 or more headers.
And i must say, the commentary of 9:08 was not far off in my opinion.-Soccer Nut-Being able to do the brawn without the beauty is a tragedy in my eyes.I once witnessed a team dominate another team and when the score was high enough, they attempted to play keep away. They failed miserably.They couldn't do it.
Yes, and you will not be a defender at the D1 level if you are not aggressive and proficient in the air.Not a chance.
Adults can head the ball until they pass-out, but children should refrain from power-headers, most do not know how to do it correctly anyway, and some that I have seen are truly cringe-worthy. Bringing the ball down, and keeping control is hard to do, but I prefer she does that, for now.
4:56Who said they are mutually exclusive.
That's exactly why many of the D1 women's games are unwatchable. Who wants to watch a brute fest with balls being headed randomly about the field. Watch France, Japan, or Brazil's women play and then get back to me. USWNT moving away from that type of game. Heading comes into play, but nowhere near the amount of import you're putting on it. Yes, executing set pieces is VERY important, but it loses some luster when you spend the rest of the time banging balls up the field and defending, being made to chase by players who play under control and with poise. JMO
From the articleAs big as this country is and for how many kids that are playing – and this isn’t a statement on [U-20s coach] Michelle French or Jill Ellis before that – this is a statement on how in a country so big, with so many kids playing, can we not produce players that have the savvy, like a Vero Boquete, or a Kim Little. When you see some of the best players in the [NWSL] in terms of how they are on the ball and their skills set on the ball, a lot of them are foreigners.Vero-closeupAnd that’s the sophistication – and maybe we have those players and they aren’t getting picked, I don’t know. But it just seems to me that we’re not sophisticated enough at the youth level. When you look at those U-17 and U-20 teams, we don’t have enough game-changers in there.In the past, we’ve been able to get away with just being athletic and strong and fast, because so many of these other countries hadn’t been developing their players. But you’re seeing more sophistication from the Japanese, from teams like the Nigerians, that in the past you weren’t seeing that consistency. As they increase the funding all over the world, that’s going to be the case.Even against a country like North Korea, where they have such a small population. And maybe they didnt have a pacey player that was going to take on and beat the whole team, one of those type of game-changers, there was obviously a comfort on the ball and a sophistication for holding the ball. And the US ended up chasing most of the game.
4:14 Not just NE see belowARSENAL FC - GLENN PRE-ECNLSAN JUAN SC SPIRITS 02 PRE ECNL ST. LOUIS SCOTT GALLAGHER ILLINOIS - PRE-ECNL 01/02SLAMMERS FC G01 PRE-ECNL
NPL team takes over top spot in New JerseyCongratulations, STAThis team was BURIED by this blog 6 months ago.Time to just chill out with the team critiques, folks.
when you don't value GS, it doesn't matter who's on top.STA should probably send out their marketing literature to try and attract their players to their team.It is the biggest joke.Not saying STA is not a good program,just saying stop with the GS nonsense already,
0:37 only nonsense when your team is down the table.Bet you were the same one asking when they were adding in the npl points hoping your team would move back up.You are so predictable.
STA.You are ranked higher than Wildcats. Are you a better team?GS is a joke.
They played the same amount of EVENTS. So why wouldn't they be. They were more successful and didn't have the benefit of getting EDP points 3 times in the same year. If GS was good enough to put Wildcats ahead of Storm then it has to be good enough now that STA is ahead of Wildcats. I am talking in the GS Universe of course.STA EVENTS1 EDP Cup 2014 Fall [U12-U14] 2 National Championship Series u11-u14 3 NYCSL NPL U11-U14: FALL 2014 4 Morris United STA Fall Kick Off 2014 5 EDP LEAGUE FALL 2014 6 2014 PA Classics Mid-Atlantic Cup:7 The Morris Showcase Cup-Girls 8 Match Fit Academy FC Invitational 2014 9 15th Annual FC DELCO Players Cup 10 New Jersey Cup 2014 11 Morris United/ STA Spring Invitational 2014 Girls 12 NYCSL NPL SPRING 2014 NJ Wildcats EVENTS1 Bethesda Tournament-Girls2 2014 WAGS Tournament3 National Championship Series u11-u14 4 2014 Spirit United Kickoff Classic5 EDP LEAGUE FALL 2014 6 Match Fit Academy FC Invitational 2014 7 15th Annual FC DELCO Players Cup8 PDA Spring Kickoff 2014 9 New Jersey Cup 201410 2014 Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase11 EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 12 EDP LEAGUE FALL 2013
8:51It's a nick name....are these teams playing in a pre-ECNL league like the NE?
So GS gets the right top 7 teams after the fall season but the order is not what most think is right. So what? It is not a perfect ranking. And let's not sit here and argue who is better based on these points because it is a waste of time. We should argue who is better based on results.
Rankings look good. STA plays a much better game than Wildcats.
5:48 NE(NorthEast) only has a flight with in a league. Most of these other teams are playing NPL and whatever leagues work for them I guess, since I am not that familiar on CA
North Ewst is still interesting to me. Who are they sending to IN? Their top flight Pre-ECNL like most of the other NPLs or their NPL (development) flight?
if STA can honestly say they are better than Wildcats then congrats but i think they would never say that. from other peoples words."Wildcats won a diluted state cup" STA didn't even make it to the finals."wildcats won a EDP league that doesn't have PDA or Matchfit playing in it. STA finished 3rd. not to mention the last 3 times Wildcats have played STA the games weren't even close. thats what Gotsoccer tells me. NJ from the outside looking in looks all screwed up. glad my daughter plays in another state.
Super Y League 2014 FinalsPTS Group A6 Grand Rapids Crew Juniors3 Gold Soccer Academy 1 Patriot FC 1 Annandale United Majestics FC PTs Group B6 Orlando City SC4 Rage SC1 DDYSC Wolves0 Northern Virginia MajesticsPTs Group C4 Long Island Rough Riders4 WAZA FC East 3 Atlanta Fire United0 VA Alliance Grand Rapids (MLS) and Orlando City (MLS, ECNL and Super Y Team) look to have locked up a Semi Spot.PtS Team GD4 LI +54 Rage +24 Waza +13 Gold Soccer -1 3 Atlanta +1Gold Soccer needs to beat Annandale for a shot, Rage needs to Gold Soccer to lose + LI and Atlanta to tie with win vs Orlando City a tie might even be good enough. LI and Waza both tied at the top of Group C with LI and Atlanta winner probably going through while Waza also has a legit chance playing 4th place VA Alliance.
Screwed up? Please elaborate. What is wrong with Jersey?
STA and Wildcats don't let the haters bitter that their own teams are down the table stir up a fight between you two.You are both doing a great job playing at a highly competitive level outside the 2 big names.There will always be those inside and outside the 2 big clubs that will attack you as long as you are competitive without going the usual route.It's like the crabs down in the bottom of the bucket pulling down any crab who gets close to climbing to the top and getting over.
1 (1) So Cal Blues - Baker 2 (3) PDA - 01 Pre-ECNL 3 (6) Legends FC - 01 4 (8) New England FC - Elite 5 (9) Solar Chelsea SC - Red 6 (2) Dallas Sting - 02 Higginbothom 7 (4) East Meadow SC - Hotshotz 8 (7) Washington Premier FC - 01 Black 9 (10) Eagles SC (CA) 10 (5) Jacksonville FC - JFC Storm 01/02 11 (12) Braddock Road YC - Elite 12 (11) Tophat SC - 20 Gold 13 (13) Challenge SC - 02 Red 14 (14) Cincinnati United Premier - Gold 15 (22) FC Virginia - Pre-ECNL 16 (15) Match Fit Academy FC - Pre ECNL 17 (17) FC Dallas - Youth 02 Premier 18 Michigan Hawks - 02 19 San Diego Surf - EGSL Academy 20 (16) Boston Breakers Academy - ECNL 21 (18) Sachem SC (NY) - Speed 22 (19) Real Colorado - National 23 (20) TSC Hurricane - Parker 24 (24) Lake Forest SA - Girls Select 25 (23) La Roca Premier - FD
1:42, what’s with the stupid list? Are you really that insecure that you need to cut and paste a list from another website to justify your existence?
2:23 How come you didn't say anything about my Super Y posts or my NYCSL GS points and GS State ranks and how I got the projection right? But this one you think you know me?Classic.We have many different lists what's wrong with seeing them? Like what else is there to talk about - I'm obviously like you - can't stay away.
Here are you happy I didn't just paste a list this time? What you are now going to say Super Y stinks also because your team (you are a coach) or your kid's team isn't involved.Love the league or Not - It's champion will be the 1st North American champion (because they do have teams from Canada) at this Age Group.Rage SC (PAGS)Long Island Rough Riders (Summer Select)Patriot FC (PAGS)Valkyries FC (Summer Select)SABA NYC (EDP)Parsippany SC (EDP)Super Y League 2014 Finals – UpdateGroup WinnersA: Grand Rapids Crew Juniors B:C:Wildcard:B Standings – Orlando City 6, Rage 4 – Winner today wins group – loser has shot at Wildcard.C Standings – Waza 7, LI 4, Atlanta 3 – Waza wins group if LI and Atlanta tie, LI Win group with a win and Waza is the wildcard. Atlanta Win and Waza wins group and Atlanta alive in wildcard pending OC vs Rage result – OC Win and Atlanta is in a wildcard – Rage win and Atlanta OC will be decided by tie breaker if OC and Rage tie Atlanta in as wildcard.Patriot FC (PAE) has been eliminated.Rage (PAE) still aliveLI (NYE)This LI team is a combination of EM and Albertson players?I read EM is having issues – so does LI become the ECNL club or does EM merge with another club like FSA and SoccerPlus?
Super Y League 2014 Finals – FINAL 41. Grand Rapids Crew Juniors2. Orlando City SC 3. Long Island Rough Riders4. WAZA FC East
As I just finished watching the MLS cup with my daughter, why do players continuously flop waiting for a call. At this age I have seen some girls do this, is this being taught at the clubs, by parents or just our girls watching this on TV from the professional level.
Come on 1:42. Don't rain on 2:43's parade.Let them bask in the glory that is GOT SOCCER.It may change tomorrow before the clubs press release, but at least they had their moment.If you have a conversation with a coach, they will tell you all about the merry go round of GOT Soccer.Thank GOD my kid can be seen without going through this merry go round.
6:44 - We also watched the game - did you happen to catch the Florida - Virginia College cup today?I love the way Virginia plays, Florida plays a nice game as well. I hate flops, but that's just a player trying to give their team an advantage. Just like players that try to get in your head when your playing with words or by pinching or grabbing you. At the higher levels there is not a huge gap between teams everyone is fast so some players look for any advantage.Like I said I am not a fan - but the ref needs to give the yellow when he sees a flop or when they review the games the MLS needs to give yellows and fines after the game to stop the crap.I hate it but I understand it.
7:07 same thing as the Uruguay world cup game. Handball to stop a sure goal to make them take a PK - red card or not if it's a goal its over, handball and they still have a chance - PK was missed and they advance playing a man down.
fyi - I am both 7:07 and 7:10
How can PDA be ranked number 2 and they can't even win a high level tournament? Freaking Joke, these rankings. Please stop putting them up. They are a complete joke. When teams start playing for National Titles, we will then have a better idea of the rankings. JMO
8:15 Which National title?
8:15 One more thing - how do you think rankings work? They look over the body of work 2014 League Play Pre-ECNL Number 12014 Region1 Tournament Runner Up2014 US Club NJ State Runner Up2014 League Play EDP Central Number 12013 NJ NCS State Cup ChampionHow do you compare?
Teams that did not apply for JeffersonCREW JUNIORS ELITEGreater Binghamton FC 01 SELECT NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITEFSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01CFC WEST ORANGETeams that I couldn't identify - they may have applied they may not have.CALVERT CREW WHITENJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZTOPHAT 20 GOLDBRYC 01 ELITECINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLDBOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNLATLETICO FC GIRLS '01YMS BANSHEESMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPLMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNLCREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH ELITEALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNLTSF ACADEMY 01/02GPA CREW ACADEMY BLUENJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIMASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIESMANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE
Teams that applied to a tournament the same day as Jefferson.Using these teams - Your top 8 would be the top flight - so for those that like to rank - I know it's not NJ but it should be fun.Delco makes it easy no guessing who applied just check their site. Manhattan and Jefferson make a big production. FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON WORLD CLASS FC '01 HAMM NPL PDA AJAX PDA DRAGONS PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACKNEW YORK SC G01RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICACFC ARSENAL SKYNJCSA GALAXYHARFORD FC UNITED THUNDERHMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRITCREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH BLACKPIPELINE BLACKPENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNLPENN FUSION SA '01G NPLPA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01SACHEM SPEED1776 UNITED FC XTREMES
My Top FlightBased on list provided:FC Virginia Pre-ECNLPenn Legacy Black (PAGS Champ)Penn Fusion Pre-ECNLSTA (Good GS stats)PDA Dragons (NPL 1st + win vs Ajax)PDA Ajax (Beat NYSC)NYSC 01 (NYCSL NPL 1st)Sachem (Region 1 Champ)Next 8 no particular orderWORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICACFC ARSENAL SKYNJCSA GALAXYHARFORD FC UNITED THUNDERHMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRITCREEKS SOCCER 01/02 KRUSH BLACKPA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01
10:40 making 1 changeWC Charlton in top flight they beat Dragons - so I bump Sachem out
MF has 4 kids who have been with the national teams from U16-U20 over the past 6 months. PDA has at least as many. Virginia had 3 NJ kids play 90 minutes today. ECNL teams need a lot of players, you always have 3-5 kids out and another 3-5 dinged up.
11:24 did you see the game - i thought they were going to tie it late.That rocket didn't miss by much.
Felt bad for the Virginia goalie. I hate seeing girls cry.
"8:15 One more thing - how do you think rankings work? They look over the body of work 2014 League Play Pre-ECNL Number 12014 Region1 Tournament Runner Up2014 US Club NJ State Runner Up2014 League Play EDP Central Number 12013 NJ NCS State Cup ChampionHow do you compare?"Are you kidding me we are ranked very high in the GS rankings.what compares to that!
My Jeff Cup BreakdownsTop bracketFC VAPDA AjaxPenn LegacyPenn FusionCreeksSTAWorld Class CharltonRage ?( #2 in PAE) 2nd BracketFC VA UnitedWorld class NPLPDA DragonsNEw York SC1776Pa classicsHardfordPipelineTo me it seems like a week Jeff Cup. Yes there are strong teams but could be better. No Wildcats?
You do know that is not Creeks 1st team
8:03 you can't make a statement like that without the facts.I said there were Teams that I couldn't identify - they may have applied they may not have.Jefferson keeps their list top secret so they can tweet their results.The world Cup doesn't even keep their team list hidden - I get they want to tweet their flights, but why keep your list top secret? Delco doesn't, MAPS doesn't? If you truly are the number 1 tournament you wouldn't care.Teams that may have applied:CALVERT CREW WHITENJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZTOPHAT 20 GOLDBRYC 01 ELITECINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLDBOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNLATLETICO FC GIRLS '01YMS BANSHEESMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPLMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNLCREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH ELITEALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNLTSF ACADEMY 01/02GPA CREW ACADEMY BLUENJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIMASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIESMANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE
8:03 I only question 2 of your top flight picks Creek (B team) and Rage? Rage middle of the pack in PAGS and didn't qualify for Super Y Semi-Finals. Not worthy of top flight - 2nd or 3rd for sure depending on team list.Also, PDA Dragons are having a better season than PDA Ajax overall plus NPL. NYSC also needs to be considered based on the list provided for their showing in NYCSL NPL but their FC Stars and WAGS showing tells me they are not ready yet.I'm a big GS guy - but you must truly believe in the rankings.
8:03- STA ranked higher than Wildcats. Ajax beat Wildcats.Agree good to have Wildcats in your bracket. They bring a lot of GS points and don't win games in these big tournaments.
"8:03 you can't make a statement like that without the facts."I made that statement with the facts I have. If those other teams have applied it blows everything up . 8:20 - didnt know that was creeks 2nd team. 8:34 - rage based on #2 PAE ranking.Not sure which PDA was North and South
Dragons would get slaughtered in top flightLets be honest.But they should get their shot at it, I suppose, since others have
8:34, I agree NYSC is not ready, so if your daughter’s team ever plays them I suggest:1. Play all of your 12-18 players, they need the experience.2. Only play with a deep-sweeper, no goalkeeper necessary.3. Actually, you don’t even need 11 players, 7 will suffice.4. Make sure you play keep-away after you score your 10th goal, its more polite.5. Give them words of encouragement after the game, they are good kids, and need your approval.Thank you!
9:37What are you basing your statement on?
9:37 to support 9:50's questionFall 2014Dragons beat Ajax 1-0Dragons tied MF NPL 0-0Dragons tied CFC Aresenal 2-2Dragons lost WC Charlton 0-1All 4 of these teams are solid.There have been no games in the fall that would suggest your claims. You must know something, would you like to share?
9:42Maybe the below looks ready to you?When playing teams in top flights:W1, T1, L4, GF6, GA23, GD -1710/12/2014 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA) 0-310/11/2014 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) 3-310/11/2014 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA) 2-18/31/2014 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (MA) 0-58/30/2014 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 0-68/30/2014 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA) 1-5
Super Y Semifinal 1 Long Island Rough Riders2 Grand Rapids Crew Juniors In ProgressWAZA FC East at Orlando City SC
Long Island rough riders and rage sc job well done girls . The competition in Tampa fla was good it's always good to gage your skills against girls from around the country to see were you stand and see what you need work on to better yourself on the pitch . Great experience for these girls .
9:37. NJ teams just happy to make top bracket. Look at the Wildcats, they have been to 3 major tournaments and have 1 win.
12:33,What that list tells me is they are a top-flighted team, win, lose, or draw. But let’s see where they are placed in the spring tournaments, they might not be ready, as you have stated.
1:03 It's the -17 goal Differential in six games that tells me they are not ready. They were given a shot. Wildcats on the other hand Using Bethesda, WAGS & Spirit for Wildcats since you brought them up they have a -2 Goal Differential in 9 games. Both have only 1 win but -2 compared to -17 is a huge difference in my opinion. I said the same thing about 1776 UNITED FC XTREMES. They played Bethesda, Discover and Spirit. They also have 1 win in 9 games with a -6 Goal Differential (the 3-0 win helped them alot). All I am saying is that all 3 have been top flight teams,butonly one has earned the right to continue as a top flight team. Wildcats W1, L1, GD -21776 W1, L5, GD -6NYSC W1, L4, GD -17I'm not saying anything bad about the team, but when you lose 4 games by more than 3 goals -that tells me you are not ready. Just looking at the stats nothing more.Same goes for AJAX - how can AJAX be ahead of Dragons when Dragons won head 2 head and finished ahead of them in the table. Just looking at the stats to either support a point of view or blow it up.
Rage has no chance of top bracket at Jeff Cup. At this point PF better hope they can squeak in there.
preliminary Top flight for new Region One Champions League:1 BRYC #2 VA2 -PWSI #4 Va3 -NJ Wildcats #2 NJ4 -Greater Binghampton #1 WNY5 -1776 United EPA6 - Ukranians EPA7 -South Shore Select #2 Mass8 Loudin #3 team in Virginia9 -victory Express #3 in WPA10 Century V #2 in WPASo much for ECNL and NE_NPL being only place to play moving forward and teams outside that league have nowhere to play and will be left behind.Comparable in level and depth with pre-ecnl and blows away B teams from ECNL clubs in NE-NPL League moving forward.
Where did u get that? I think there are going to be 32 teams in 4 regional leagues.
Yes, but that will be top flight of 12.there will be groups of 8 in 2nd flights as you say.
also said there will be semifinals between top 2 tams in each group of 6 in top flight then a final, with winner getting wildcard to Region 1 tournament and if winner is already state cup champ than it will move down the line to finalist, semifinalist ,etc, but wildcats will come from this league as in the past.Excellent competition and depth in this flight with wildcard to region 1 tournament a nice complement.Well done Region 1!
Is this the Champions League that is replacing the old Region 1 Directors Premier league? Played in that league around 10 years ago and it was very strong. Is it going to be 1 or 2 games in a day? Used to be 2 games per day on a saturday and you had a travel partner and 1 date to host 2 other teams from out of state.It was 4 trips and 1 home date to play 10 very strong teams.then #1 seed vs #4 and #2 vs #3 in semifinals at Kirkwood Del facility over 1 weekend.
Not according to what I have read on reg 1 web site but I hope you are right. There aren't 32 elite teams in reg 1 outside of the ecnl. Much prefer the top 12 play play each other and not be divided up based on geography.
GFA in national finals tomorrow 9am, playing under Valkries but GFA group and head coach. Here they come
2:25Can you for one second take the FC Stars results, and put them to the side, NYSC was not ready for that event, its obvious. Let’s look at the rest of the fall season as a whole, they have a +26 GD in all games, and are in 1st place in NPL, not too shabby. I like their style of soccer, they play possession, and work the ball through the mid-field, to their wings, its a winning strategy, they just need to execute better.
2:56 - " Comparable in level and depth with pre-ecnl"Makes me laugh. that was a joke right?
The Region 1 Champions League divisions have not even been released.
first it was edp and its region 1. they so desperately need to live up to the big girls.
In my opinion, this list (below) is stronger than EDP division this season and would slot between the ECNL and EDP (close to ECNL):1 BRYC #2 VA2 -PWSI #4 Va3 -NJ Wildcats #2 NJ4 -Greater Binghampton #1 WNY5 -1776 United EPA6 - Ukranians EPA7 -South Shore Select #2 Mass8 Loudin #3 team in Virginia9 -victory Express #3 in WPA10 Century V #2 in WPA
4:21 NJ Wildcats, BRYC, PWSI & SS are nice.GB is solid - the EPA teams can not win outside of PALooks Stronger than EDP Central. Good for these teams.So what will Nj Wildcats do? Play NPL, Region1 and EDP? or are they saying see you later to one of the leagues?
would like to see Penn Legacy join this group and prove they can play with the top teams in a league format.
Both will only be 6 tams in EDL Flight this spring so only 5 games.
If 256 is correct, that is an impressive list of teams & will/should be quite competitive. I have seen 9 of those teams, few of them multiple times (the local ones) all are legit top teams. I hope that comes to fruition.
5:00What EPA teams are you talking about. Penn Legacy, YMS, Rage, and HMMS have all won tournaments outside PA this fall. Legacy, Penn Fusion, and PA Classics all won at Jeff Cup last spring with 4 more PAE teams as finalists or semi. Who do you think is incapable of winning and why does it matter where?
3:30NoCan't put aside the NYSC Labor Day weekendYou have struggled vs Crush FC - and they have had a difficult time in first flights this calendar year.
Who hasn’t struggle in top flights, and you’re just being mean not letting us have a Mulligan on Labor day weekend, just mean. Its okay, I forgive you.I have love for everyone, because I am secure in the knowledge that my kid is getting the best training, but let me say that again, THE-BEST-TRAINING.Results vary for all teams, personal progress is the key, and I am over-joyed at my kids abilities, she has a bright future.
4:21 Penn Legacy is playing in the champions league.
Great to hear!They certainly belong in top flight as well.
Looks like its a slow day for stupid, and bitter comments, maybe its the rain?
11:28 And yours has a lot to do with soccer bravo.USL Super Y 2014 Championship WAZA FC East 2:1Grand Rapids Crew Juniors
If you add in Penn Legacy to top flight of new Region 1 Champions League that is a ery impressive list indeed.South Shore Select MassBRYC VaNJ WildcatsPenn Legacy EPAPWSI VaGreater Binghampton WNYKind of puts to rest the argument that you have no choice but to put your child in the long line of A,B, and C Teams and inflated rosters and drive all over your state in the ECNL clubs to play vs elite competition each week.Between Region 1 Champions League and top flights of elite tournaments these teams will see plenty of tough comp week in and week out.Kuddos to USYSA for putting together something to counter the efforts of the ecnl clubs to create a monopoly and force all parents to accept whatever they sell us(inflated rosters, players sitting out games and tournaments,costly travel flying all over the country at 12-14 when no one is yet evaluating the girls just to raise the exposure of their clubs banner) in order to have our child play high level soccer.Refreshing!
12:44 yes looking at recent tournament results and flights there is plenty of comp for our best teams at WAGS, Bethesda, Jeff Cup, FC Delco, Spirit, etc without spending the big bucks to fly to San Diego, Chicago, etc to play many of the same teams and level of competition you see at WAGS Cup Flight, Jeff Cup and these other top tourneys right here in Region 1 area.Totally unnecessary added expense for the families.
I think that looks like a very good league. Makes sense for the best of the non-ECNL clubs to battle each other. Competition to the ECNL can only be a good thing.-An ECNL parent
1:11 - Exactly the point.A monopoly is only good for the clubs who are IN ON IT, NEVER GOOD FOR THE PLAYERS AND PARENTS.HAVING CHOICES AMONG MULTIPLE GOOD OPTIONS IS ALWAYS THE BEST FOR THE PARENTS/(JUST AS IS TRUE FOR THE CONSUMERS IN ANY BUSINESS).
Agreed-Competition is healthy for all and keeps the clubs honest.when the clubs have leverage we see they will take advantage of the parents for more $$$.Once they can convince you that you have no choice but to sign with them and accept their terms, then you need to check your wallet.
yes but this league will also travel and spend big bucks.So you are not getting away from that.And dues is about the same as an ECNL club, so whats so different.Some ecnl clubs take too many girls-see PDA and Matchfit but some stay with 18.If ECNl is the best then i guess this would be the second best option for a league, but every year competition may vary.My understanding is that a couple of these clubs, including Tophat, Calvert and Bryc are being considered for ECNL status. If they eventually go then it just goes to show you that USYS will continue to fight a losing battle against the ECNL and US Club soccer.One more club in NJ-Preferebley down south would be nice.
1:29- not saying Region 1 Champions leaguewon't travel.I am saying non-ecnl teams in region 1 won't travel beyond region 1 area until it is necessary for showcasing the girls-travelling that distance now only showcases the clubs brand at parents expense. if you are correct about all the top clubs joining ecnl eventually,than all of us parents and players alike will lose as having comparable choices give us the leverage to chose. a monopoly only benefits the ecnl clubs and they will continue to take advantage with inflated rosters, unnecessary travel beyond region 1, and the like..As far as Calvert and Tophat, they are not among the teams listed for Region 1 champions League so no effect there.Can you explain how a club like Calvert Crew, which doesn't have teams at this elite level across the board would qualify for ECNL?Hopefully you are not the one making these decisions for ECNL Membership.
I too would be very surprised if Calvert is being considered for ECNL membership as it only has one elite team and the rest of the teams, and the club itself, doesn't have the pedigree ECNL typically looks for.BRYC has the pedigree but because it is so close to two other ECNL clubs (McLean and FC Virginia, and three if you count Bethesda), I don't see them being offered ECNL membership (unless ECNL kicks McLean out, like the McLean boys were kicked out of Development Academy).Tophat would seem a good addition to ECNL, even with the other Atlanta area teams.
1:46.First my child doesn't play on an ECNL team.second : what travel are you referring to. My research shows that all ecnl games are in the region?There is some travel via tournament play but that is the same for region 1 teams if the individual club decides to test themselves against better competition in different states. see florida, see chicago for non ecnl teams. Some teams even venture to SanDiego.Most games for both leagues will be played within the region.Every year clubs petition to join the ECNL- if you could see the list you would be surprised how many clubs in the NJ area are trying to get into the mix.Its not altruistic, it is business, period.One side of their mouth is talking about how ecnl is not needed for the consumption of the parents on the club and with their other side, they are trying to procure fields and the necessary requirements to get into the league.I donot know if Calvert will get in, I only know that they have petition to get in.Would like to hear what clubs in NJ are trying to get in.You would laugh as I am sure their are parents on here talking about why ecnl is not needed because their club told them it wasn't needed, meanwhile, the same club is trying to gain entrance.
Have to laugh at parents , even ecnl parents shilling for ecnl clubs to continue trying to monopolize highest level of competition.Aren't they aware that competition and choices will benefit them as well.I think to some of these parents it is so much about ego and elitism they don't care if they get hustled.
2:07.I am curious , If you are a top 3rd kid on an ECNL team.Where is the hustle?
2:03 I'm going to piggy back on what you said.If a NON-ECNL club is accepted and your kid's team is now ECNL - how many of you leave? Same Coach, just everything else that is ECNL is added. Extra Roster Spots - eventual post season trip to Seattle with Finals in VA
No the travel is not the same.the ecnl clubs at U12 and U13-U14 are travelling to chicago and san diego,etc. at great expense to the parents to play the same Illinois and Ohio teams that were in the WAGS Cup flight and Jeff Cup.How does this benefit the players and parents.It is an unnecessary cost to the families and only the club benefits as they are exposing their brand.when the girls are U15-U16 it is fine especially if the players have interest in schools far from region 1 but not a needed expense at U12-U14.And the point isn't whether other clubs are trying to gain entrance to ecnl.The point being made is that it is a positive for all families and players if there are options like region 1 Champions League presented by USYSA to offer comparable choices to ECNL for us.How does having only 1 league that is stronger than all others yet limits membership in each area to 1 or at most only a few teams and therefore has only limited spots for players a benefit to players and families?How are the players on the B and C teams better off in NE NPL than if they could play in a champions League that was comparable with ecnl in competitive level and balance?Only the clubs involved fear this competitive balance being restored as well as choices for the families of high level young players.
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