Tuesday, January 27, 2015

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

Tryouts will be very interesting this year. Will be curious to see what happens in PA. If PF could get a few more elite players they would be unstoppable. Very good team but need a few more. Legacy is another to watch. Will anything change there? PA Classics already has their tryout times posted for mid April.

Anonymous said...

After all the talk about the ECNL momopoly on the best path to D1 soccer and all the shills chiming in with Amen's wouldn't it be great if that Region 1
guy was right and the new leadership at Region 1 and USYSA is asserting itself and they are back in the mix. If so watch how fast ECNL is OVER and with it the new 25 player rosters and little kids sitting out tournaments and events and coming back to your car with tears in their eyes because they don't get to dress for the games or go to the tournament that week.
there will be 1 or 2 academy teams in each state and everyone else players and clubs will be on an even playing field.
the best teams in each age group will again earn the rankings regardless of club affiliation.

Anonymous said...

USYSA is done.

Anonymous said...

OK I give up, whose DOC was that stating they own kids? Make sure I'm not letting my kid tryout there. How can anyone with self respect allow their child to play in a location that preaches that s**t. So much for democracy, but then again look at the rest of this country.

Anonymous said...

But as an earlier poster stated. On this team some are allowed to do as they want, play and train where they want and some aren't without consequences.

Anonymous said...

"Will be curious to see what happens in PA. If PF could get a few more elite players they would be unstoppable. Very good team but need a few more. Legacy is another to watch. Will anything change there? PA Classics already has their tryout times posted for mid April."

The problem is that Penn Legacy and PA Classics share common ground for recruiting with HMMS, LDC, and others. Penn Legacy has some of the finest athletes in the area, and they can be fun to watch. Even if they recruit from Classics or say, Reading, they will only go as far as their coach can take them. And that is where I question their ability to last. Their athleticism will only last so long.

Unless Penn Legacy starts playing tougher teams, they will reach their peak sooner, rather than later. PF may not be able to match PL right now, but their potential peak is much greater/longer.

Penn Fusion can bide their time, continue to draw in players, and will eventually become top dog in PA by recruiting from all over the area and with top quality coaching. One of the top young players, Rachel Dorwart, was coming from the Harrisburg area to play for PF. I would not expect many, if at all, players from the ECNL area of PF, CFC, and FC Bucks to ever make their way out west.

Anonymous said...

PL this year:

Spirit tournament (top bracket)
Discovery tournament (top bracket)
PAGS (doubt we'll see them there again)
Jeff Cup (top bracket)
Region 1 Champions League (Division 1)
FC Delco tournament (certain top bracket)

Other than maybe trading Discovery for Wags and doing Bethesda what else do you wan them to do?) Add on Bethesda and that looks like fantastic competition to me?

Anonymous said...

http://events.gotsport.com/events/?eventid=39085

Woohoo...

Anonymous said...

http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=39085&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Sorry, for you lazy types...

Anonymous said...

First not sure how many of you watched our girls get out played by a French team the other day. They looked more dangerous and more comfortable on the ball. having said that maybe you guys missed the below

"Gulati said U.S. Soccer has a good relationship with Elite Clubs National League (ECNL), the highest level of girls youth soccer in the U.S. and a model that loosely replicates the boys’ U.S. Soccer Development Academy model."

If this happens and I believe it will ECNL will be elevated above ODP. So for any girl that wants a serious shot at WNT there can be only one place for them.

Take away PL and NJ Wildcats - how many teams in PA can play with Penn Fusion pre-ECNL? How many teams in NJ can play with MF or PDA pre-ECNL?

These teams will get stronger and move to birth year the girls that have big dreams will move to them. it's that simple I would expect FC bucks and CFC Delco to benefit the most from this if it happens. You will have all those ODP players with a difficult decision to make stay and play in college or follow your dreams for a shot at the WNT.

AND YES a DA gives you a better shot than ODP - not the only shot - but a better one.

Anonymous said...

New Jersey has eight such teams overall

I dont know about PA.

Anonymous said...

okay....3, then another 2, then another 1....aside from ECNL

Anonymous said...

Watch the top management at your local ecnl clubs scrambling with meetings and anxiety and you will ascertain that the ecnl league becoming the DA league is far from a done deal.
They are very nervous right now and it is all undecided and sitting on a razors edge.
A lot of maneuvering and behind the scenes positioning and bargaining going on and it will be interesting to see which way the wind blows when the dust clears.

Anonymous said...

912 who cares so much about practice players ? They don't get playing time do they ?

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup schedule is out and those are going to be some great games. Wildcats and Legacy (second game on Saturday) should be a great rematch. Legacy could be in a hole early, having to play Virginia first game. Even the second and third brackets are going to have so great match ups. Don't see any bracket where one team runs away with it and steamrolls everyone.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, could be a goalless Saturday for P Leg....

Anonymous said...

Also think Penn Fusion will win their bracket. They will finally be at full strength and even stronger if their age eligible U14's come down to play with them. Wildcats not having to face Virginia for first two games is a huge break. If they win both on Saturday, they can pack it in and play for a tie on Sunday. Maybe even try to kick one over the top and hope some fast girl can put it in (not that they would ever use this strategy).

Anonymous said...

Imagine that. Both Legacy and Wildcats without a goal on Saturday. Of course Wildcats would be counting the ones that almost went in, just like they count the games they almost won as wins. I'm trying to remember the one of the bigger tournaments they won last year (was it Jeff, Wags, Spirit, Discovery or Bethesda?). Or was it the Itsolowlevel tourney (I think the Camden Creampuffs were in that too)? I know there was the one where they just missed winning because of the stupid crosswind blowing while they were shooting on goal, and then the ref fell down when a hand ball in the box happened.

Anonymous said...

So you're saying PF would have to bring down players from their U14 team to win? Ha Then again, that didn't help them win last Fall.

Anonymous said...

Just ignore them.
They wish their teams were where Penn Legacy, Penn Fusion and Wildcats are at Jeff Cup.In the top flight that is!

Anonymous said...

jeff cup big commitment of time & money. that's an awful long way to travel & not be top flight. DOCs have to be worried, lot of pressure to succeed playing against lower quality teams in the area.

Anonymous said...

3:53 that's such a crazy comment.
Look at MSC KOC still no applied list -but you need to pay to be accepted and you lose money if you back out before the tournament. How are you supposed to know what flight you are going to be in or guess at when you have no idea who applied? You go to Jeff Cup because you know lots of good teams will be there and play who they match you up against.

Example look at Delco Player's Cup no secrets here you see exactly who's applied and can guess where your team will be flighted, no secrets not top secret information. They do it the right way in my opinion. Not trying to trick anyone into thinking they are something they are not. Bravo.

But then again this is a yahoo who likes to post team rankings and stuff and maybe enjoys this a little to much.

Anonymous said...

912 who cares so much about practice players ? They don't get playing time do they ?

Roster players and their paying parents who lose touches, field time and coaching focus during overcrowded practices on the small indoor fields... Practice is were you develop your skills games are were you polish them. Less minutes and touches all around.

Anonymous said...

So true, wildcats has a ton of extra girls invited to practice. 25.00 a girls.. Not fair to my daughter.

Anonymous said...

"That's an awful long way to travel and not be top flight"

Have you been IQ tested? You may be miscast in your job. Your brilliance may be needed in a higher capacity.

Anonymous said...

10:07.... Wow how jealous are you? Wildcats play all the teams that sign up. Never ducked any team home or away. NJ parents are crazy. Sounds like you should talk to your DOC and ask why your team skips tourneys. PL wil be ready for all takers win or lose!

Anonymous said...

"PL will be ready for all takers....."

Sounds like about 3 dozen teams in the region. Congrats

Anonymous said...

While we wait for MSC and STA to make their applied team list public.

I'll move over to PA - who isn't scared of the weather. PA guys what is the below tournament who's your top 4 no order or you can put them in order. Is this tournament worth 4,530 GS points if the top GS teams are in the same flight? Looks like some easy points.

5th Annual FC EUROPA TURF CUP - Girls Weekend
3/7/2015-3/8/2015
Teams Applied


74 FC Revolution Force
106 Lehigh Valley United 01 Girls
108 Pipeline Soccer Club Black
179 Wyoming Valley SC WVSC '01 Girls
263 Montgomery Soccer Club Blaze White
351 HFC Ready '01
500 Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Red
606 Warrington Soccer Club FC Bombers
819 Western Lehigh United 01/02 Grizzlies

Capital Area SA Blitz(01)
FC Europa Force
Fusion Soccer Club Lyra
Buckingham United SC Sting
Cheltenham Sports Meteors
DELAWARE RUSH '01 GIRLS
Delaware Union U13 Girls Navy
ESSC/Henlopen Whitecaps
Harford FC United Liberty
LDC United Black 01-02
PA Rush 01
SJEB '01G West
Vincent United F.C. Vengeance
VYSA U13G Express
West Chester United Eagles 01


Anonymous said...

People on this blog post too many comments. We're almost at 5000 again. No other age group posts so much.

Anonymous said...

we have a lot to say, love our kids and love the sport and have some fun along the way.

Anonymous said...


http://thesoccerservice.com/isc/files/NJISC_2015_Schedule_&_Brackets.pdf


Indoor SC Thing for those who care..

Anonymous said...

I am not PA guy but I will give you my top 4 at the europa cup

4- FC Revolution Force
2- Lehigh Valley United 01
1- Pipeline Soccer Club Black
3- Wyoming Valley SC WVSC '01 Girls

that is a weak tourney

Anonymous said...

It is funny when you look at the other boards (u14) they too have issues and comments with the Kitty Cats program.
Common theme

Anonymous said...

Wildwood Futsal Tournament:

Several EM Hotshotz girls play with DV Academy, and several Maryland United girls on DCFA, both are Pre-ECNL teams, so I guess their DOC’s approve of futsal, how about your club?

Anonymous said...

Not the DOC of MF. But he is an All-American , he is all knowing.

Anonymous said...

You say that but MF girls play in Futsal tournaments and leagues.

Anonymous said...

A letter to MF DOC,
You are disrespected your kids don't listen to well.

Anonymous said...

Wow. That list of teams for the Europa Turf Cup reads like a B list. Don't see FC Revs coming in as number four with all the issues that team has had. Two years ago they had one of the most athletic teams around, combined with some highly skilled girls. Since then they have had five of their top players leave (two to Fusion and three to Legacy). It just goes to show how hard it is for a club like FC Revolution to compete with non-profit clubs (Rage, Legacy and others). I do think you are right with your other three picks. Hard to believe that tourney is worth almost 5000 points. Shows how misleading GS points can be.

Anonymous said...

3:#5 Please get a life!
Now you are reading the U14 and other blogs as well as the U13 blog.
Wow, what on obsessed neurotic person you are to spend so much time worrying about another club.
Unless you are with the now imploding as a high level program NJX then I can see why you are so concerned.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it is from the bitter jealous haters in your own backyard at the Shore. I don't believe we even have to name those 2 teams.

Anonymous said...

Oh look, the u13 WW Futsal schedule, it appears that FC Virginia Pre-ECNL team will also be there, hmmm.

http://www.resultsmanager.com/event/nefutsal2015/?div=-&age=U13G&schedule=1&standings=1

Anonymous said...

@10:11 "It isn't fair to your kid?" I would suggest you return to your appropriate board! WC encourage others to participate in their practices. Competition is good for the kids WC welcome it as do the kids and coach! WC is more then a play date. The record speaks for itself!

Anonymous said...

My daughter is not on that team but has trained with them on occasion and I can tell you it is a very challenging training environment.
Not for the faint of heart I can tell you.

Anonymous said...

Calvert Crew is at Wildwood in the U12 and U14 divisions

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the reason why KOC is not posting the schedule or even the applied teams listing?

Anonymous said...

All of the top players are at Wildwood.

Anonymous said...

@9:56 When kids are jammed in on a slice of an indoor field because the team is littered with "practice players" week after week, it becomes unfair to the players who thought they "tried out" to earn a spot on a team. Then these practice players walk on to the roster mid season. It's a joke.

Anonymous said...

9:49

I have a guess

i think they may figure why even bother releasing a schedule, then cancelling?

There is a chance a cancellation comes with no schedule ever being posted.

Anonymous said...

The only secure spot on any team is the top so called 1/4. They don't care who shows at practice because they know they are safe. They are also the ones that can train anywhere they want and guest play wherever they want without repercussions. That's a fact. Then you have the ones that are always hurt during the week but make a miraculous recovery to play the 3 or 4 games on the weekend. When everyone knows the real reason is the parents just don't want to drive the kid to practice, because its an hour away. Just stating the facts.

Anonymous said...

10:17 You would think they will learn their lesson in having a tournament so early in the year. They can possibly canceling this thing now 2 years in a row.
Waste of time and money.

Anonymous said...

Historically temps average 45 degrees end of Feb

But go ahead - base an opinion on the last 2 seasons.

Anonymous said...

Why is TSF listed as a no for NJ State Cup?

Anonymous said...

@10:08 Sports and life isn't about being fair. What coach sees talent and doesn't take them because it isn't fair? They should let them go to another club?
Any good coach is always looking for better quality players to add to their roster. Kids leave, get injured, lose interest in the sport, the coach needs to cut players. You can practice with any team not just the WC. All it takes is a call.

Anonymous said...

The new indoor facility in farmingdale where the team trains has 40yds x 45 yds field
Its state of the art with great sound system, brand new top quality field turf(not carpet turf like most indoor spaces) it's 2 levels and huge and run by their GK's Dad so he gives them the entire space to themselves. It is not crowded at all..
They have plenty of room and play 8v8 scrimmages after training.

Then they go upstairs to the training room and do physical work with medicine balls, agility ladders, core training, stretch bands, etc.
It's not a surprise outside players are calling to join in their training program.

Anonymous said...

10:42 AM, where did you see that?

Anonymous said...

does anyone have a list of teams playing the indoor State Cup.would someone who knows the teams playing and wildwood like to rank the top 10. And what do you think are the top matchups to watch. I think this tournament is stacked with talent and am taking my kids to watch.

Anonymous said...

Your guess is as good as anyones

Anonymous said...

Indoor SC
SDFC (2 Teams) Rage and Samba
STA NPL
TSF (2 teams) White and Blue
FC Maximus
Stronghold

Anonymous said...

also Black Mountain Fury

Anonymous said...

re: futsal tournament in wildwood. it's beyond me why or how anyone could participate in this with far more important spring league season coming up & tournaments with huge implications to rankings. risking injury, burnout & just not a "team firs"t approach to training. just my opinion & glad my daughter has no interest.

Anonymous said...

3:19, if you still don't understand why they are playing the tournament in Wildwood, well, guess you never will. Its fine, I could use your parking spot, and the stands will be a little quieter, thank God.

Someone made the observation that there were going to be some talented u13 players there, I agree.

I am sure that all of those players also play outdoor soccer in their spare time, since its so much easier, and slower.

Ciao!

Anonymous said...

the talent that is going to be in Wildwood from all over the region is going to be unbelievable. If I were a scout I would be sitting in the convention center nice and comfortable watching these games with a nice cold drink in my hand. It's a no brainer sit in the Wildwood Convention Center or freeze your butt off at the Manhattan tournament.

Anonymous said...

5:10, I like your fervor, I am a big fan also, and will be there in Wildwood, but I think it's apples and oranges comparing it to the MSC event. I would call this the premier indoor event this winter, above all state cups, and other various indoor tournaments.

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Some of the best players from East Meadows, MF, NJX, Storm, Wildcats, Dragons, etc.

Anonymous said...

That's in addition to the club teams like STA.

Anonymous said...

MKC will be cancelled this year again, that's why they are not posting anything. To bad for any teams who had flights booked. Im sure you won't see this tournament next year. I know our club not go again if try it.

Anonymous said...

No player ever got offered a scholarship from an indoor event

Anonymous said...

No but it's great to watch some of these talented girls.

Anonymous said...

Boy those running this event in Wildwood are really stretching it!
Next they will be telling us that Anson and Mia Hamm will be there this weekend.

Anonymous said...

Its great that the most talented 13U girls in the world are playing and be doing things that are too incredible to be believed. But can we quit comparing it to the second coming of Christ (although if he comes, I'm sure its so he can watch this tournament). Its indoor soccer fellas!! I know your all excited because the ball is a little different and we call it futsal. But take a breath, go to the nearest bathroom stall and clean your self up. Futsal is a great training aid and skills builder, and I'm sure college coaches from California will be there to recruit. But your going to break your hands from clapping and spinning in a circle every time you look at the schedule

Anonymous said...

http://m.fifa.com/futsalworldcup/news/newsid=1798909/

You probably won't see Anson or Mia at Wildwood but you would see players like above playing the game. It makes things much easier on my daughter that so many of the kids she plays against have parents like some on this board. Keep relating to Anson and Mia, that mindset alone let's people know how far you are behind. Futsal is a bad idea just keep having your kids tackle and shoot hard...lol... doesn't matter most of your coaches will replace them in a few years for the next big strong superstar.

Anonymous said...

But my daughter juggles in the driveway..

Anonymous said...

I feel bad for you guys that get all excited about your futsal tourney and who's showing up, then the Twisters come in and win the stupid thing with a bunch of girls that don't even play together. Gee, hope them college coaches were there at the Penn Tournament when they beat everyone in that. What a lucky break for those girls. We travel a lot for both our kids to play indoor and the team wins most of the events (But who cares??). Its and a fun, really good indoor training aid. But not anything to really get to crazed about.

Anonymous said...

Who are the Twisters?

Anonymous said...

Exactly... No one

Anonymous said...

What indoor league do they play in? Would love to see their competition. Cant compare that crap to futsal training. Technical game vs booting the ball and knocking people over.

Anonymous said...

if the twisters were all that they should be in Wildwood to test themselves against the best in the region, not the best in Pennsylvania..my top 5 DC futsal...New Jersey's own dynamo...DV Academy... a azure paw....Virginia FC...pipeline black...

Anonymous said...

7:23

There is a futsal tournament in PA at USTC 2/22. Enter it. Then we will see.

Anonymous said...

I love the guy who comes on here and knocks this tourney. Obviously his daughter did not make one of these "all-star teams, or his daughter doesnt have teammates and friends from other teams who want to get together to form a winter team, or his club does not play futsal and would rather collect raining fees.

From what I see, the best girls from the best teams are going to be at this tourney (EM, MF Pre ECNL and NPL, PDA ECNL and NPL, Wildcats, etc. Some of the best clubs, like FC Virginia are going to be there.

Of course no college coaches are going to be there. That is not what these girls are there for. It is a chance for girls to play with other great players and their friends from other teams. It is also a training tool for some clubs. I feel bad for your daughter and club for not experiencing this.

Anonymous said...

And I disagree you won't see the next Mia there. You just might.

Anonymous said...

7:23

What Penn tourney are you referring to? In the bubble on turf? Who was the competition? Not the caliber you would see in Wildwood.

Anonymous said...

Here is the u13 flight in Wildwood, so which one of these teams is the EM/MF/PDA/WILDCATS?

Baltimore Bays Chelsea Lightning Blue
FC Copa Academy Futsal Black
SJEB U13 Girls - White
Red Stars 02 Red

DCFA GU13 Cruzeiro
ALEX Pride FutsaL
RAGE FC Premier Renegades
DTS FA U13 GIRLS

DCFA GU13 Santos
FC Copa Academy Futsal White
Pipeline Black
Dynamo

DV ACADEMY
FC Virginia 01
Girls Soccer Group U13G White
New York SC Futsal U13G

Anonymous said...

Can we please have the name of the company running this event in Wildwood?

Anonymous said...

Yeah it's called "your daughter is not going".

Anonymous said...

Here you go, its a 3 hour difference, so I would wait a little while. Oh, almost forgot, while you are waiting, perhaps you should make a list of reasons why your daughter is not playing. Toodles.

http://www.futsal.com/index.php/contact-us

Anonymous said...

Go Twisters !!

Anonymous said...

FC Copa at futsal.. lmfao.. Better double up on the shin pads.

Anonymous said...

"There is a futsal tournament in PA at USTC 2/22. Enter it. Then we will see."

I Googled this and couldn't find it. can you post a link to this tournament? I'd like to bring my group of 'Twisters' to beat up on your group of 'Twisters'

Anonymous said...

11:58... Nah... we save ourselves for knocking off the unsuspecting big mouths on this blog.

Anonymous said...

I am wondering what rule I broke that my post keep getting deleted.

Let me try this again

You can't register for the USTC event on the 22nd because it's a championship. You had to play and place at one of the four qualifiers held over the last two months. Maybe next year. Don't worry I'm sure there's a group of poor unsuspecting rec players you can beat up on at your local indoor facility that weekend.

Anonymous said...

Beating up a local rec team? Your team would be treated pretty much the same way, although the rec teams parents would probably have a little more class. Both PDA teams lost at The U of Penn tournament this winter (twisters one that one too), But PDA, 1776 and Continental parents were extremely classy and recognized the real value of indoor is simply the touches and speed of play. Never saw them saw them jumping up and down on the sidelines and yelling at refs (insert yourself here). Futsal is great for skills and speed of touch, but some knuckle heads take it a little to serious (insert yourself here again).

Anonymous said...

So I guess nobody knows who these mysterious teams are?

Red Stars 02 Red
ALEX Pride FutsaL
Girls Soccer Group U13G White

Are these the magical futsal teams that all the best players from EM/PDA/MF are playing on, but its a big secret, so don’t ask.

Anonymous said...

12:49, what type of surface was that tournament on?

Anonymous said...

1254 Burning lava

Anonymous said...

Haha, must be, because Pennsylvania is actually Hell.

Anonymous said...

Dynamo has MF ECNL, NPL, PDA ECNL, and Manalapan that I know of.

Anonymous said...

Gee. I wonder what type of surface the University of Penn would have inside their bubble that their own soccer team practices on? Turf maybe? I get, you guys are playing on real grass at your indoor tourney. Yes, that would make it better. Although you are probably a little upset that their are no points for the tournament. Is the playing surface really long? I'm sure even though its indoor, your team will still want to pack in on defense and boot it over the top. And of course really gain a lot from your indoor experience.

Anonymous said...

1:10 does the MF wonder-girl play on that team, the one that came from GFA?

Anonymous said...

12:49

Oh did I hit a nerve?

The answer to 12:54's question is turf right? So it wasn't futsal.

And by "treated the same way" you surely don't mean the Twisters would beat up my daughters team do you?

Look, the real benefit of Futsal is it separates girls who are just athletes and look good (for now) outdoor, from the really talented players. There's no masking lack of skill on a futsal court the way a fast physical player can outdoor(again for now). Those days are coming to an end.

Playing at the local indoor facility against rec teams where the GD winds up +100 for a team does no one any good. Actually it lacks sportsmanship IMHO. If that offends you, I am sorry.

About the only place these top level players can be challenged indoor is on a futsal court. If they truly are top level players they will love the game, if not they won't.

Anonymous said...

she is there with her old man.

Anonymous said...

tonight starts futsal mania in the Wildwood Convention Center. Don't guess what team players are on, come cheer them on. Only 20 bucks to get in, and hotel rooms from 3 to 500 dollars a night. But your kids are going to have a great time. Sorry you won't be able to afford Disney World this year. Lol good luck!!!$$$

Anonymous said...

Jealous much?

Anonymous said...

holy crap! Indoor leagues, futsal, 3x3 tournaments...it's all about just getting touches on the ball and improving the kids' skills in a fun environment. Twisters have some talented kids that have fun together (i've heard that some of the not so fun parents are no longer there), just like many of the girls that parents on this blog talk about. Let's set up a tourney and call it "Crazy Fest." In order for your team to get in, you must make at least three completely ridiculous and baseless claims about your teams (bonus seeding points if you include your daughter in the mix), with initial rankings based upon most ignorant parent statements. I don't think that should be difficult at all for this blog...

Anonymous said...

No one on here should be knocking futsal. It is a great game to help the girls improve their skills. As previous poster said. There is no kick and chase here. Pure skill

Anonymous said...

the beauty is that 3 more posts and the blog is shut down until next week at least.

Anonymous said...

Oh no. What is everyone going to do with themselves until next week? Maybe you can go to the U14 board and complain about girls soccer.

Anonymous said...

I get the futsal craze, but howcan you get excited for this rec tournament? None ofthe teams are doing this besides getting their kids some extrat touches in a great fast pace environment. To call it anything else is crazy.

So if my daughter wanted her grandparents to come watch her play. It would cost $60 per day to watch - are you kidding me.


Club teams?
1. Baltimore Bays Chelsea Lightning Blue
2. FC Copa Academy Futsal Black
3. SJEB U13 Girls - White
4. RAGE FC Premier Renegades
5. FC Copa Academy Futsal White
6. Pipeline Black
7. FC Virginia 01
8. New York SC Futsal U13G

Not exactly sure?
1. Red Stars 02 Red
2. DCFA GU13 Cruzeiro
3. ALEX Pride FutsaL
4. DTS FA U13 GIRLS
5. DCFA GU13 Santos
6. Dynamo
7. DV ACADEMY
8. Girls Soccer Group U13G White

Anonymous said...

Something to think about before you can respond next week.

Will they play at the KOC?

Good night!

Anonymous said...

Very few "club teams" have enough real soccer players to field a futsal team on their own. Most of those other teams are allstars made up of the best of the best.

Anonymous said...

Great Futsal Tournament this past weekend in Wildwood NJ. Some observations about the quality play:

1. Quickness is not as easy as it sounds.
2. Patience is not a virtue, its a curse.
3. Being nasty does not help, anyone.
4. Talent always rises to the top.
5. Always bring your best players, 7 max.
6. Stupid is, as stupid does.
7. Have some class NJ, shake hands...

Ciao!

Anonymous said...

What kind of coach let's a team leave the field without shaking hands? That is awful.

Anonymous said...

Not sure, maybe it was you, coach??

Anonymous said...

Who won?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a good time at Futsal.
Now let's talk outdoors.

For me it's FC Delco player's Cup it's only Feb and the tournament is not for another 3 months but the lineup for this age group blows Jefferson Cup away with top teams from MA & CT teams applying plus some greats from Jefferson Cup as well .

I've listed 22 teams below assuming Delco also goes with 8 team flights. They will have 3 solid flights for sure.

Girls U13
1 Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNL
2 Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue
3 Boston breakers Academy GU13 ECNL
4 Braddock Road YC 01 Elite
5 CFC West Orange
6 CFC Arsenal Sky
7 Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite
8 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01
9 Greater Binghamton United FC 01 Select
10 Harford FC United Thunder
11 Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
12 NEFC Elite U13 Girls
13 New York SC G01
14 NJCSA GALAXY
15 Penn Fusion SA '01G Pre-ECNL
16 Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
17 Pipeline Soccer Club Black
18 Players Development Academy Ajax
19 Seacoast United Elite - DR- 01/02
20 Tri-State FA TFA Elite 01
21 Waza FC East 02 Juniors
22 World Class FC 01 Charlton

Anonymous said...

My top 8

Boston (Pre-ECNL)
BRYC
CFC West (pre-ECNL)
Crew Juniors
FC Virginia (pre-ECNL)
NEFC
Penn Fusion (pre-ECNL)
Tri-State

Honorable Mention

Penn Legacy
WC Pre-ECNL

Before you rip on me for adding PF over PL - PF will be the 1st to be replaced if EM, Storm or a Cincinnati enters.

This will a great may for these Pre-ECNL teams as they will have played in SC earlier.

Anonymous said...

If the weather plays nice and the
MANHATTAN SC KICK-OFF CLASSIC 2015 doesn't get cancelled.
Should be EM taking the title.

Bracket A
CFC ARSENAL SKY
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G
Bracket B
FC STARS OF MASS NORTH MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS ' WESTERN UNITED PIONEERS FC


Morris United STA Spring Invitational 2015
Should be STA and NJ Crush in the Finals
let's see if MF Black can live up to it's new hype as an
up and coming team and can NJCSA make the jump? NJ Crush
should have a free ride.

Bracket A
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK NORTH (NJ)
NJCSA GALAXY (NJ)

Bracket B
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
SDFC SAMBA (NJ)
MANALAPAN NJCSA ELITE (NJ)

Anonymous said...

New Jersey Cup brackets are out

Anonymous said...

Weird mix of teams between the two u13 brackets. Do teams register for one vs. the other or are they placed? Either way, I don't understand why there's so much inconsistency with teams. I'd switch more than a few from one to the other.

Anonymous said...

What team in Wildwood did not shake hands at the end of the game?

Anonymous said...

Have to hope it wasnt the champs.....

Anonymous said...

10:21
When teams register they have a choice of what bracket to play in.

Anonymous said...

11:39, 11:45, it was NJ finest, Dynamo.

I caught the game against DCFA Santos at the half, and it was an intense encounter, great play back and forth, no doubt, but at the end, when all hope had faded, Dynamo got nasty, (pushing a girl from behind out of bounds) has no place in this, or any other event. The Santos player could of been seriously injured. And if that was not enough, they refused to shake hands with Santos. Low-class.

Anonymous said...

No surprised it was them. Coach has and never did have control of his teams. Would not be surprised if the girl pushing in the back was one of his Manalapan girls.

Anonymous said...

It was NOT a Manalapan player, unless she changed teams this winter. Will not name her since she is only 13, but it was a cheap-shot, and if I was her father, I would be very concerned. Its really too bad, because she is a great player, but greatness begins with humility, and ends with respect.

Anonymous said...

Maryland groups were Finalist in all groups they participated, with Champions in the U9 and U12 Divisions. Their U13,14,15,& 19's lost lopsided Finals. Virginia's FCV were U15 Champions with FCV ECNL having a multitude of teams entered. FCV now has Gus Donolo along with FCV DOC Christian Cziomer running their Futsal program. Gus is Brazilian/Argentinian and operates "Soccer the Brazilian Way" and is a very successful coach in NOVA with 20+ State Championships along with a National Title or two. DCFA won the U9 Division and were Finalist in U13 & U14 where they were outmatched by DV teams. DCFA is operated by Denison Cabral, Denison is TD for US Futsal, a former US Futsal Nationl Team Player and also a staff coach with MD United ECNL. SMFC is operated by Danny Villagran also a staff coach for MD United ECNL. Both of their teams are stacked with MD United ECNL, McLean ECNL and other top MD teams ALL-Stars. The U12 group was won by SMFC CESC, an all Calvert CREW U13 team made up of CREW players playing age appropriate U12 for this tournament and coached by their coach and Calvert Elite TD Damon WIlliams. The CCF team that were Finalist in U15 is a former SMFC team out of Charles County, Maryland. The Open Mens Division was a treat for everyone to see and something fans and non fans alike should definitely make plans to watch. It came as no suprise that the kids /teams that impressed at this tournament are some of the most entertainig players to watch outside. Futsal clearly has the attention of the area's top clubs/programs/and coaches. Certain to improve soccer in the Region.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 1:04, that was very in-depth. Futsal is great to play, and fun to watch, we enjoyed the experience, and came away with great respect for all the players and coaches. Bravo!

Anonymous said...

Who would you change 10:21? Seems mostly academy teams in one and town teams in the other. Just curious

Anonymous said...

From the US Soccer Development Academy site:

"Futsal is a key component to player development and a mandatory part of the seasonal training plan for the Development Academy U-13/14 Program. The showcases, which are part of the Academy’s futsal period (January-February) features a minimum of four futsal matches over the two-day stretch."

Anonymous said...

Futsal is the new driveway juggling

Anonymous said...

haha, its not, but if you think it is, sorry for your child.

Anonymous said...

thanks.. my child needs your pity

Anonymous said...

I thought it was fascinating that a PDA team was playing with no logo on their shirts, why parents?

I saw that their was an older PDA team playing with their colors on, why not the u13 PDA team? Oh, and I know it was a PDA team because they forgot to leave their bags in the car, hahaha

Anonymous said...

that's fascinating to you? You must lead a dull life.

Anonymous said...

PDA doesn't sponsor Futsal.

Anonymous said...

Bo knows futsal!

Anonymous said...

3:12 Sounds like you need to work through some of your PDNV. Why do you care what they are doing?

Anonymous said...

@1:43PM

In the "lower" bracket you have the following NJ GS Top 30 teams:

Jersey Shore Boca (NJ GS #10)
Manalapan Dynamite (NJ GS #11)
NJ Rush Blue (NJ GS #12)
Mercer Spurs (NJ GS #17)
NJ Rush Grey (NJ GS #18)
PDA Shore (NJ GS #21)
STA Morris United 01 (NJ GS #26)
NJ Crush White (NJ GS #27)
FC of NJ (NJ GS #28)
Wall Wave (NJ GS #30)

In the "upper" bracket you have the following teams outside of the NJ GS Top 20:
Thistle Comets (NJ GS #22)
Match Fit Black (NJ GS #23)
Howell United Outlaws (NJ GS #33)
Washington United Fever (NJ GS #37)
Mt. Laurel Fury (NJ GS #50)
Union Lady Cobras (NJ GS #200)

So there are some outliers and some overlap. Some teams appear to be chasing points (or not, since there are so many decent teams in the lower bracket), while some other teams appear to be taking their chances trying to play cinderella. Kudos to them, shame on the points chasers.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment from 4:12.
Those in the top 15 of GS points should not be in this bracket. They should be in the upper bracket playing against top teams.
Let's say JSBoca or Manalapan/NJSCA Elite (what ever name they give themselves today) wins the state cup. Is it really a state cup championship for them? Now take a town team in the second level bracket. If they run the table and win out right, that is well deserved.

Anonymous said...

Who was coaching the PDA team? Was it their PDA Coach? If not then you have your answer why no PDA logo. Why would they play as PDA when it looks like they might have done it on their own.
But you know better than me -since you were there and noticed their bags. I'm just guessing.

4:12 and 4:28 you crack me up - when they say they are in the top 10 you are the first to tell them they are not. They are playing in a flight they have a shot at to play some good games and maybe walk away with a title for those kids who don't play Region1, NPL or ECNL why rain on them let them enjoy.

Anonymous said...

12:35 this team have some characters playing for them (Actually parents)

One parent not moving her child to play for a top team, hard for her to just let her be one of the player's on a team, instead stays on town team to have her be a star

One parent kicked out of town soccer

One parent that has all the answers- MY KID IS THE BEST EVER

One parent that is a follower

One parent that is a thorn in everyone's side.

One parent that can't control players

Do you really expect them to shake hands?

Anonymous said...

Alright then, we see the types of characters on Dynamo, glad we were not a part of that train-wreck.

BTW; second parent needs to send his daughter to an anger management class, they should have family appointments, 2 for 1.

Anonymous said...

That team a few of them came from is a train wreck.
Problem parents and disrespectful kids.
No wonder MatchFit not taking them on the ECNL team.
Heard he is not taking a one of them at tryouts.
Don't blame the ECNL coach at all.

Anonymous said...

Isn’t the angry child on the ECNL team?

Anonymous said...

Yes!
Wait until the college coaches see her attitude on the field!
I'm sure they will be lining up to sign up for that headache for 4 years.
Great job dad!

Anonymous said...

Stop talking about kids by reference.

"Opinions, questions and your point-of-view are welcome. PLEASE do not disparage or insult individuals by name or initials. Keep the discussion informative, lively and engaging not negative."

Anonymous said...

So once again size is done in by speed and skill in Wildwood. Half those kids are MF kids. Size no skill.

Anonymous said...

But don't worry MF has a all american trainer. Lol

Anonymous said...

You have no idea what you are talking about. The team they lost to was as big and physical as they are.

Anonymous said...

I usually don't write on the blog but I gotta say I feel bad for the kids whose parent has nothing better to do then come on this blog and ridicule 13 year old. girls.you're embarrassing

Anonymous said...

And as technical and fast. They just played better as a team.

Anonymous said...

You people act like these players are not allowed to lose. You can't win every damn game folks. Grow up. Size and speed was not a factor this weekend.

Anonymous said...

How the mighty have fallen and they won't even shake hands? What do you expect look at how the parents post on here. Behavior is learned people.

Anonymous said...

Once again the few bad apples give NJ parents a bad name as low class trash.
You should have made your child march right back out there and shake hands.

Anonymous said...

What do you expect?
The children s bad behavior doesn't come out of left field.
It's the parents who model disrespect towards their child's coaches and other parents teammates and other teams in front of their child by bad rapping them who have the disrespectful children.
It's really not rocket science.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Anonymous said...

Not to worry 9:53. I'm pretty sure PA, NY, VA and DE is full of similar parents that speak (or yell) first and think later. From what I understand, parents and players guilty of acting like this in the future will be forced to play for the Wildcats so they'll fit right in and feel at home. Of course new players coming on must be responsible and not get upset with her own teammates, nine of which will be inside the defensive eighteen during games, waiting to boot the ball as far as they can.

Anonymous said...

Once again, the liars come out and everyone on here believes them and start bashing 12 and 13 year olds. My daughters team entered the court right after the game and DCFA rushed the court after beating Dynamo. The Dynamo team lined up and waited and absolutely shook DCFA's hand and showed good sportsmanship. I actually thought it was rude for my daughters team to walk on the court so fast and get in to the players way while they tried to retrieve their bags. The nonsense and lies on here need to stop. These are all talented players and its a shame we have disgusting adults who cause trouble.

Anonymous said...

Its not a lie, I was there also, Dynamo did not shakes hands with the Maryland team.

Anonymous said...

Wildcat parents were fine when I saw their team. PDA, MF, and Albertson were all much worse. Con FC parents were the absolute worst.

--PA Guy

Anonymous said...

Every team has a few parents that are bad and a few that are fine. It is just the way it is.

Anonymous said...

7:54

Dude. If you were there you would have seen the players shake hands. You have no credibility! You should be banned from the blog or you just need to get your eyes checked.

Anonymous said...

Hey PA Guy, please be more descriptive of what it means that the parents were "much worse". More worse than what?

Anonymous said...

Enough with the futsal!!!! It is a training technique. Should not even be playing games with futsal as it promotes the do what it takes to win instead of what it is truly for..... Technique! Everything needs to translate out on a very large field with a much bigger ball. Again, great training tool for touches. That is it. Move on.

Anonymous said...

It takes a rare and special kind of idiocy to yell at the ref or at an opposing player, so most of my disgust for other parents comes from those who constantly coach their kid from the sidelines. PDA has quite a few who do this, and MF certainly has a couple dads who get as close to the field as possible and constantly jabber at their daughters.

Con FC has a roster of 18, and I swear, there were literally 36 parents on their sidelines each yelling things at their daughters. I think parents were even instructing the kids on how to sit on the bench and how to take a sip of water.

I honestly did not hear any Wildcat parent do this. There was maybe some encouragement to "step it up" or "let's go girls". And (considering what I've read on this board about the team) in hindsight it is a little funny to remember how the parents got real excited before any Wildcat corner kick or direct kick, but this was a very normal, engaged, excited but not overly excited, group of parents.

--PA Guy

Anonymous said...

PA guy, Your comment holds no water unless you know the girls personally. Wildcats and MF did not have a team at the event. Only a couple of players mixed in with other players. And the so called PDA team had about 4 parents on the sidelines. Doesn't sound right to me.

Anonymous said...

I am pretty sure PA Guy is posting in generality, not regards to that specific event in Wildwood.

Anonymous said...

All of these teams have their crazies! They each lash out from time to time depending on the opponent. Is what it is!

Anonymous said...

Thanks, 10:22. That is correct.

Anonymous said...

10:15am are you kidding?
do you even read the posts before you comment on them.
In his post of 9:48 the PA Guy was not commenting on parents based on the behavior at this past weekends Futsal event!
Read again"Con FC has a roster of 18 and I swear there were literally 36 parents on their sidelines each yelling things at their daughters".
the PA guy is commenting based on what he has seen on the sidelines when playing each of those teams over time.
You don't have to agree with him,but at least read his posts and try and comprehend what he is referring to and the context before claiming "his comment holds no water".

Anonymous said...

"All of these teams have their crazies! They each lash out from time to time depending on the opponent. Is what it is!"

No, all teams do not have these crazies. Our team plays at a high level, but the parents all somehow manage not to coach their kids the entire time.

But if your team does have such parents, I think we have a responsibility to tell them to STFU. If that doesn't work, I suggest that you videotape the idiot during a game and then play back the audio with them standing nearby. They'll get the hint.

Anonymous said...

Exactly what 10:15AM and his ilk do on the sidelines that PA Guy was referring to.
Blurt out stupid comments without thinking first.

Anonymous said...

Taping them and playing it back does work in my experience.
With many of these Buffoons it is just a stream of unconsciousness as they get into a zone and don't even realize their obnoxious behavior.
Sometimes playing it back can embarrass them enough to get them to rein it in.
sometimes a plea from their daughter and the other girls on the team to the offending parent can also shame them in to stopping the coaching and ref baiting from the parent sideline.
There are some cases though where nothing works and they will actually defend their behavior.

Anonymous said...

“The American Journal of Sports Medicine” recently published a well-conducted study out of Glasgow Celtic over the course of two seasons ("Effect of 2 Soccer Matches in a Week on Physical Performance and Injury Rate"). In a very sophisticated way, they took a look at performance parameters and also at injury rates. The variable was the amount of time between games.

Bear in mind these are really high-level professional athletes with access to probably the best medical care that you can find.

They found that for the performance parameters there were no significant differences related to time between games. They attributed this to training methods, nutrition, and some other recovery efforts they did between matches. But the injury data was really different.

Essentially what they found was a six-fold increase in injuries if the games were played less than four days apart.

It’s hard to fully apply those findings to youth sports, but it’s reasonable to assume that if there’s a proven higher injury rate for four days or less apart for professional players than at least to some extent that same rationale would be applicable to youth players playing two games in one day or three games in a weekend.

Anonymous said...

A week ago, crazed futsal fan was waving his giant foam finger, screaming about all the merits of playing in this tournament and that only girls of the highest caliber (and teams) would be able to play in this futsal tournament. Is he now waving a different finger after the tournament is over and has forgotten to post anything about the skill level shown by the players? Its a good thing Jesus didn't save his second coming for this tourney after all, he would have been sadly disappointed, not by the players skill, but the fact that parents are willing to judge young girls because (God forbid) they didn't shake hands. WHO CARES!! They're all sweaty anyway. Should they have exchanged valentine cards after the game too? Watch your kid and cheer for your kid, That's all you need to do. I was not there, but I'm sure the skill level and intensity was very high. Congrats to all the girls (even the ones that didn't shake hands).

Anonymous said...

If a player or players did not shake hands I am sure there was a good reason. (beyond just losing the game)

Anonymous said...

I disagree with how one parent portrays the Dynamo team and parents.we lost to the team, and did not find them as physical as expected. Even their bigger players showed high skill levels. This in my opinion is the closest to a futsal Academy we have in New Jersey. They won the state championship the last three years. They also won the state futsal championship playing up a year.They must have some skill to achieve this. This is the team our team strives to beat.They push us to be better players. The only team I feel can play with and sometimes beat the Academy's from outside our state. I'm sure the coaches have dedicated a lot of time,effort and money to prepare these kids, and should be commended for doing a good job. There are always going to be jealous, envious people who want to rain on your success. Good luck and we look forward to playing you again in the future.

Anonymous said...

It's on TMZ video that Dynamo shook hands with DCFA.
KABOOM

Anonymous said...

12:31 thanks Dynamo Parent.
Who else would know the entire record and history of this winter futsal team other than one of their own parents.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a dynamo parent, I don't even know what league they played in this winter,but I'm glad our kids gave them a good game the other day. Let me ask you a question why are you so bitter?Just come out and tell us. I have to guess you're the same idiot complaining about what kids are not allowed to play futsal, and this team doesn't have their letters on their shirt.my guess is you have bad blood with the team or coach and just can't let it go, feel very sorry for your kid.

Anonymous said...

"FUTSAL ACADEMY"
Are you kidding me! Futsal is a training tool, it's something to do in the winter to get touches on the ball.

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked this was a soccer blog, not a futsal blog.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like someone's daughter and/or her team is alligned more closely to physical kick-and-chase soccer, and doesn't perform well when foot skills and passing to feet become necessary, as is the case with futsal.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like someone's daughter and or team can only play well on a small hardwood court, rather than on a full sized field.

Anonymous said...

You guys sound like a bunch of grumpy kids that have been inside all winter. It will be so great when the girls start playing outdoors on the pitch. Its a shame that the Crazed Foam Finger Waving Futsal Fan is going to send his daughter to the Futsal Academy instead. But on a positive note, she will definitely be the best soccer/futsal player in the gym all spring andsummer long. 22 days to Jeff Cup

Anonymous said...

Please tell me one single team that can "only" play well on a small hardwood court. What type of player that excels in futsal would you NOT want on your own team?

Anonymous said...

No one on this board is saying that futsal isn't an awesome training tool. And we all know that it translates to great foot skills and knowledge of passing angles onto the big field. But in a competitive situation, it often tends to favor smaller quicker girls at the younger ages. I have seen many girls that do not have the greatest physical skills, manage to compete on the big field because of all the indoor and futsal they played. Now take your foam finger off and put it away until next year and dig your cowbell out (I'm almost positive you have one of those).

Anonymous said...

My daughter’s club sent a team to Wildwood, and it sure was very humbling. Not so much that they were over-matched, it would say that they were simply out-played, which is a big difference. Futsal, at its core, is about speed and quickness, and the teams that excel at that did very well, but the best team (DV) was not overly fast, or quick, but they had the 2T’s, toughness and tactics. Its was a great experience overall, mostly because my daughter played well, and we really enjoy watching her compete.

P.S. Our club runs a futsal program to improve its players, not to place kids on the US Futsal National team, although if they called... : )

Anonymous said...

I hate to break up this futsal blog with a soccer question, but I am going to. If I can assume that most that frequent this blog, their daughters are at the higher end of the U13 soccer pyramid either individually or team. Can someone (maybe Soccer Nut?) give their insight on the Pros/Cons/Differences between:

ID2
TIP
US Soccer Training Center
ODP

I assume if your daughters are at the top, then they have attended 1 or more of these already.

Anonymous said...

What about some of the so called top 10 nj teams according to got soccer getting beat by an unknown u12 town team last week? This is why got soccer is a joke or maybe this age group is?

Anonymous said...

Heh

Age group is no joke

Number of excellent teams in tri state.

Anonymous said...

Are you saying GS should give points for small sided futsal results to be more accurate as to the rankings of the best teams?

Anonymous said...

Good Lord, stop obsessing over the freakin' gotsoccer points. Do your good days and bad days really hinge on where your daughter's team ranks, and who may be ranked unfairly ahead of her?

Such insecurity.

Anonymous said...

For sale-
1.One giant foam finger
2.One pair indoor shoes (men's size, but just like the girls were wearing)
3.Copy of Tourney Bracket
of U12 teams progress
4.Actual picture of Dynamo
players shaking hands
5.Autograph of winning teams coach
6.Locks of hair from the girls on the winning team
Please contact Crazed Futsal Foam Finger Guy. (may be busy due to lobbying efforts in getting GS points for Futsal)

Anonymous said...

US Soccer Training Center
ID2
TIP
ODP

this is the order provided to our parents recently. US Soccer Training have National coaches attend sessions

Anonymous said...

I wish someone could explain to me how the manalapan girls got on the Dynamo team? First I heard of this was on this blog and I am a little confused. Why was the manalapan team not entered into the tournament? Why did the coach go behind the backs of his own team to bring his own daughter and another player to this team? Not looking for nasty comments back would not have wanted to spend the weekend in wildwood but am truly trying to understand what is going on here?

Anonymous said...

4:54
Not sure what your question is? First of all the coach did not go behind anyone's back. This same group of girls play futsal together every year. They are a bunch of girls that are friends. Why does this have to be a big deal?

They did not play as Manalapan Dynamite at Futsal, they just go as Dynamo. I personally don't see anything wrong with a coach who takes his daughter and some of her friends every year to play in a Futsal tournament. They just happen to be very good.

Anonymous said...

oh let me see:

A) coach didn't want to coach,she actually wanted to sit back and watch her daughter play.

B) Coach wanted to see her daughter play with better players

c) Coaches daughter had chance to play with her friends outside her team.






You can pick an from any one of these scenarios.


Anonymous said...

Most of these players have been playing together in the winter for 5 years now.

Anonymous said...

And they are some of the best players in the state. What does that say about your kid? Wasn't selected to play with the best. Keep playing on those inferior teams.

Anonymous said...

Best players? Really/

Sorry I know all those players, none of them are stand out players. Very good players, none are studs

Anonymous said...

Yes, Dynamo has some of the best players in the State.
You could say for this age group, some of them are studs. If you do not agree, please tell us where we can find some Studs in this age group.

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