In the spirit of Basketball - Region1 Teams with a shot at playing for a national title this spring with GS rank in top 400ECNL31 - PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL40 - FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL48 - FC VIRGINIA ECNL 0163 - FC STARS OF MASS ECNL82 - ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL93 - BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01100 - CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01134 - WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL145 - PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM149 - EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ157 - FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01166 - MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL207 - CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14230 - MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14257 - PDA 01G PRE-ECNL311 - EAST MEADOW SC EAST MEADOW 01G PRE-ECNL372 - MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U14ECNLNational League1 - SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE165 - GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECTNPL4 - NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN6 - NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS12 - NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL25 - STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 0127 - SJEB '01G NPL28 - PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL29 - LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS33 - GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/0243 - NEW YORK SC G0150 - ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL56 - OAKWOOD SC61 - MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL65 - TSF ACADEMY 01/02G68 - SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/0274 - NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL83 - MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES86 - PWSI COURAGE 01G RED105 - BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02113 - MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14144 - YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE160 - PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS161 - EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS169 - FC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPL198 - ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL212 - FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA223 - FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01236 - MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL BLACK 01261 - VIRGINIA RUSH VAR ELITE 01G303 - PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX326 - BRENTWOOD SC NPL 02 STORM356 - FC STARS OF MASS NPL358 - CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F368 - SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY U14G
you always stake that claim about NPL teams being as good as Non ecnl A teams. Can you point out which tournament these NPL teams are kicking non ecnl teams ass? You probably want to start with the AJAX I guess. They always dominate at tournaments. Especially against PA teams.
That's not the standard, 7:59. We're talking about what it would take to move from an NPL team to a non-ECNL team. Being competitive is the standard. Some NPL teams definitely meet that standard. The NPL teams don't need to be Penn Legacy. They only need to meet Wildcats standard.
I'm not sure if that was a shot at the Wildcats or a compliment? But that's a good point about the standard. In PA, I'm not to sure how fusion's, FC Bucks and Continentals teams would do against the top PAGS teams if they were in the same league.
While we're talking about the powerful PAGS league. FC Revolution's Shea Moyer, who was also playing with the U17 national team, is catching a free ride with Penn State. Penn State is doing this despite Moyer tearing her ACL this spring and her diminutive size at 5'4" (and no ECNL background). Moyer's Uncle is the owner of FC Revolution and by allowing her to play in 14U and 15U tournaments with the boys, it definitely made her tougher, play at a faster pace and improved her first touch. She is a great player.
Is a player allowed to be on an ECNL or NPL team and play for another team in the same year-same time
11:41 - How do you know she is getting a " Free ride "?FC Revolution is no powerhouse of a club. One girl in one age group doesn't make a club good. In this age they have dropped in the last couple of years.
Well 10:01 then by your won standards the NPL Teams from the ECNL Clubs, Ajax and MF NPL came up short at Bethesda and didn't record results that show they are comparable with Wildcats who went to the Final in F1, examine the results and those 2 teams are not even close to comparable.In fact even the MF ECNL Team clearly came up short compared to Wildcats performance as they lost to 2 teams, Bethesda ECNL and BRYC, both of whom Wildcats beat at Bethesda.
Never mind those details, 10:06 :)-----But seriously....There are quite a few NPL teams doing excellent work in this division. Almost a sin that the teams will be breaking up.Let's enjoy this final spring, knowing sometimes the fruit is shown in a W or well earned TIE and sometimes not so much on the scoreboard but in what we see in the individuals that hadnt been seen in the past.Look up to and respect the ECNL teams - and know on your best day you can achieve as much. Dont let the occasional braggart from that group affect how you see the game or how you see the players in that division. There are blowhards in all walks of life. And the girls have little to do with that.Be healthy, all - as we train through the winter. And Happy Holidays.
Well really yourseolf 11:28.Just don't talk about "self serving comments from coaches" while you keep spouting that BS.You have let the way in that regard.We all give all our players minutes in tournaments.And how exactly does that worn out excuse("We don't care if we win outside of our ECNL League games") work for the NPL teams from PDA and MF?You are what your record and results say you are.
The only reason the parents of the ECNL players don't think they play to win at tournaments is it's the only time the non-ECNL girls get to play the exclusive ECNL clubs and funny thing is they kicked their butt. If ECNL teams played the non-ECNL teams more they would lose more-simple as that.Hard to sell your brand when the VW model goes just as fast/far as the Porsche model your trying to get everyone to buy.The true ECNL separation will come at a later time it's just not there top to bottom at this age group.
Good point, 10:06am. I withdraw my comment at 10:01pm.After giving this 30 seconds of thought, shouldn't the non-ECNL A teams be better due to the fact that their best one or two players (who presumably could make an ECNL A team roster) are better than the best players on the ECNL B team (who have tried but could not make the ECNL A team roster)?And if that is true, then the flip side is that ECNL B teams should pretty much never beat non-ECNL teams.
And for the sake of furthering the comparison between the 2 could you imagine any scenario where the NE-NPL teams from the ECNL clubs(Ajax, Dragons, MF-NPL) would beat Albertson ECNL, Bethesda ECNL and BRYC in consecutive games in a tournament as Wildcats did at Bethesda.I think you would be more likely to get struck by lightning on a sunny day.
Good post 11:45. Our team plays everyone at tournaments and keeps the play fairly equal all the time. Coach even lets us know its how its going to be. 1776 swaps everyone out except their two defensive backs. Fredrick also sends in four to five at once and PL parent said they change out four players every eight minutes. So lets stop we don't play our best player theme. Try to cut the puppet strings and stop the coach speak coming out of your mouth.
Very very seldom is it evident that an opponent is playing their substitutes sparingly. I think trainers at this level do a nice job with this.
12:37 You're lost if you don't think PDA Dragons, or Match Fit NPL could not do the beat the same 3 teams.Watch either team play and a rational observer would agree.In fact, I believe Match Fit NPL already beat Albertson ECNL already this season. Don't think that a good weekend is indicative of a complete season, same goes for a bad weekend. Those 2 teams mentioned above are clearly the class of the NPL in NJ and commonly ranked behind Match Fit ECNL, and PDA Storm by actual knowledgeable soccer people. Add PDA Dragons to round out the top 5. Wildcats likely would come in 6th...
Woohoo Go New Jersey!!!!!Go New Jersey, Go New Jersey, Go New Jersey, Go....P.S. On another more profound note, tactical-awareness is something that is starting to show-through in some of our girls, its a beautiful thing to behold, I love this game.
You gotta be impressed, Go NJPDAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_cVJFvS-9k
6:38 Could you let me know where your getting those incredible drugs that you are taking? I would love to live in a world where that you are living in. Where reality is only what you want to believe. We've played the Wildcats and your top five NPL team (its not), and although we may not be big fans of the Wildcat parents, their team is more skilled and gifted athletically.
1:05 how would these teams or your team handle this?1. Team has roster of 22 on 18 cand ress for a game2. Team plays in league that qualifies it's champion to National Event.3. League games are played 80 minutes two 40 minute halves.4. No Re-Entry in half after player is removed for a sub.Impact players play 60-80 minutesCore Players play 40-60 minutesRoster Depth players play 20-40 minutesSo what do you think these teams do? Do you really think they don't play their roster depth players at tournaments? I would use my roster depth and core players for tournaments to have them push each other.Until 1776, Frederick, PL and your team has to play with these conditions don't just pretend you know because anyone can play 18 or less with unlimited subs every game.No excuses games are played to win with the 18 that dress. If they are good enough to make the team then every result counts even if the impact players don't. The problem I see you guys having is - that these teams don't care about Stars, Jefferson & PDA events - they use these events to showcase all their players the more that go to colleges the better they look they. The impact players are a done deal. From reading these boards it sounds like teams get up to beat these ECNL teams and when they do and read the ECNL team could careless that they lost, it drives them up a wall. Teams that play PAGS, EDP and other leagues like this don't get it. The NPL teams get it ask STA and Wildcats if winning at Jefferson is better than qualifying for Indiana? The RCL teams will start to get it ask SSS and GB they qualified for National League would they trade that for a Jefferson medal? Ask PL and 1776 if they would rather have qualified for National league or beat PDA Ajax at a tournament? Teams like PAC, FC Rev, YMS, NJ Rush Blue & Boca will never get this because they go to these events to win because they have to, what will PAGS do for them nothing so they have to beat a ECNL team and then when they read the ECNL doesn't care it drives them crazy.
6:38Who was Match Fit NPL missing at Bethesda? I wasnt overly impressed in their game vs HMMS
Besides the NPL national event, is there any other B team events going on that nobody cares about and nobody will see? Isn't there one in Nome Alaska too? Of course at least the polar bears will be watching games there, always looking for slow moving food.
Meant to say grizzly bears. No polar bears in Alaska. But they like slow moving food too.
In looking at Ajax and MF NPL U14 history:MF NPL beat Albertson ECNL 1-0MF NPL beat Bethesday 1-0Ajax beat BRYC 3-2That is the only recent head to head comparison I see so yes I think they could beat all of them on any given day (and they may lose on any given day too) just like the Wildcats could and have done.
I don't really care who sees the games in Colorado, 9:42.Why do you?
If you know where you want to go to school, isn't more coaches hounding you burdensome?
MF NPL beat Bethesda White,that clubs B Team, that is not their ECNL team that Wildcats just beat at Bethesda. They failed to advance in F4 at Bethesda.As far as Ajax they have 7 losses and 1 win in their last 10 games.And they just lost 0-7 to 1776, an EDP League middle of the pack team at Bethesda.Tough to make the case they are the top 2 NPL Teams in NJ off their results at U14 so far.
9:59 More coaches hounding?? NPL?? Out west???? You must be doing the same drugs previous poster is taking. Which school is the one doing the hounding? Colorado Technological School of the Blind and Developmentally Challenged? I hear they do have a very good soccer program.
Nah -you got it backwards, palNPL = less coaches = so what?
Ajax did NOT beat BRYC at U-14. That was at Delco last spring i.e. U-13, and half of "Ajax"'players were ringers from Storm. BRYC is a much improved team this fall, Ajax is not. Nice try though!
It was also a game that didnt mean a thing (both came in at 0-2, like with Ajax vs Frederick a few weeks ago)So, who exactly is Davidsonville Dynamite?
I hear that Matchfit ECNL's Bethesda performance was sabotaged. Is there any truth to that?
10:58 will you stop trying to bring facts into these NPL statements. Can't be considered top NJ team if your going to bring useless facts into the argument.
NPL Finals 7/9/2015 - 7/13/2015Flight Ranking Value: 10,000 Champion - NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA) Finalist - JFC STORM 01/02 (FL) Semi-Finalist - FC PORTLAND ACADEMY -01G-ECNL (OR) Semi-Finalist - PDA NORTH 01 NPL (NJ) Additional R1 Teams FC VIRGINIA AUFC NPL '01 (VA) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)Region 1 NPL Teams va Non-NPL teams @ F1 Majors after NPL Finals. Spirit United Kickoff - 8/22/2015 - 8/23/2015FC Stars Cup 2015 - 9/4/2015 - 9/6/2015WAGS Tournament - 10/10/2015 - 10/12/2015Bethesda Premier Cup - 11/13/2015 - 11/15/2015NEWSS -11/28/2015 - 11/29/2015NPL @ F1 4-0-0 (+20)---NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS (MA)4-1-2 (+3)----NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)4-2-0 (+3)----OAKWOOD SC (CT)2-1-0 (+1)----MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL (NJ)2-1-0 (+1)----YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)2-2-0 (-1)----MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)Below .5002-3-1 (-2)----NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)1-2-0 (-2)----NJCSA ELITE NPL -MANALAPAN (NJ)1-4-1 (-11)---PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0-3-0 (-7)----NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0-3-0 (-8)----PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0-3-0 (-9)----STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)0-3-0 (-21)---SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)NON-NPL @F16-1-0 (+12)---SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)5-3-3 (+4)----BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)3-2-1 (+0)----PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)Below .5002-3-1 (-1)----PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)1-2-3 (+1)----1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)1-2-0 (-2)----NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)1-2-0 (-5)----FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED (MA)0-2-1 (-5)----HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0-2-1 (-7)----RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)0-3-0 (-7)----RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)0-5-4 (-7)----CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0-5-1 (-7)----FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
I don’t care if we lose every game, my daughter will still go farther in soccer (and life) because she is prettier than your daughter.Happy Holidays!
NEWSS is not a major, no top teams at all. I'm not sure Bethesda should be considered a major this year either. The finalist didn't even get out of their bracket in F2 at WAGS and no elite teams. I would consider both B level based on who participated.
Success in soccer requires many traits but being a beauty queen ain't one of them.
I added ECNL teams to the mix same events F1 only.W--L--T37-15-04 ECNL22-28-04 NPL19-32-15 Non-NPL7-1-0 (+13) BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)6-1-0 (+15) PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)5-0-0 (+9) FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)5-3-2 (+6) ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)3-1-0 (+8) FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)2-1-0 (+5) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ)2-1-0 (+5) EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)2-1-0 (+2) MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)2-1-1 (-4) FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01 (CT)1-1-1 (+1) BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)1-2-0 (+2) WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)1-2-0 (-2) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
I don't know about that as BRYC made final of WAGS Cup F1 and lost in semifinal of Bethesda to the team you disparaged .
9:39Sorry but you have to have some kind of a standard when calling a tournament a major(max 10k GS pts, participation by one of the elite teams, NEFC, FCV, SS, maybe BB). When your F1 is full of other tournaments F2 teams it shouldn't be considered on the same level. Next you'll be calling Discovery Cup a major, or the Hempfield Fall Classic!
So all in the last 2 months at WAGS F1 BRYC beat Penn Legacy 2-0 and then CASL ECNL 1-0 in semifinal plus beat MatchFit ECNL 2-0 at Bethesda in F1 and advanced in both events and still not considered an elite team?
Wasn't Penn Fusion in F1 at Bethesda?
Plus wasn't MatchFit ECNL in F1 at Bethesda?
True but MatchFit ECNL didn't really try after all they let their "Bench Players" play a few minutes.
Silly me. I thought the u14 season started on 8/1 not the Friday of the Bethesda tournament. My apologies to the Wildcats for such confusion.
2-3-1 (-2) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
Region 1 Teams@ F1 MajorsSpirit United Kickoff - 8/22/2015 - 8/23/2015FC Stars Cup 2015 - 9/4/2015 - 9/6/2015WAGS Tournament - 10/10/2015 - 10/12/2015Bethesda Premier Cup - 11/13/2015 - 11/15/2015I removed NEWSS and ranked teams by winning %. I'm all for giving teams a shot at F1, but if they are under .400 they should be replaced by another,since there are so many teams that are equal to each other.1.000 (+20)---NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS (MA)1.000 (+9)----FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)0.875 (+13)---BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)0.857 (+15)---PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.857 (+12)---SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)0.750 (+8)----FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.714 (+3)----NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)0.667 (+5)----PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ)0.667 (+5)----EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.667 (+2)----MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)0.667 (+2)----OAKWOOD SC (CT)0.667 (+1)----MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL (NJ)0.625 (-4) ----FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01 (CT)0.591 (+4)----BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)0.583 (+0)----PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.500 (+1) ----BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)0.500 (-1)----NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)0.417 (-2) ----MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)0.417 (-1)-----PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)0.417 (+1)----1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 0.333 (+2)---- WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)0.333 (-2)----ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)0.333 (-3)----CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 (-5)----FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED (MA)0.250 (-11)---PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.167 (-5)----HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.167 (-7)----RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)0.083 (-7)----FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)0.000 (-7)----NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.000 (-8)----PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 (-9)----STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)0.000 (-21)---SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)0.000 (-7)----RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)
Agree all results at the current age should be considered, but clearly more weight should be given to the most recent results as they are most indicative of the current level of performance of each team and their players individually and colectively.After all the idea is to improve and develop as players and as a team over the course of the year and improved performance is the best indicator of that development.
Each new year tryouts and player movement bring a new mix of players to each team at this level. It often takes some time for each team to jell and for players to establish themselves in their roles and mesh together as a team.
Don't all teams face that same situation 2:04? Hard to ignore that -11 for Ajax and -21 for SJEB. There must have been quite of bit of butt kicking going on in those matches. Must have been the result of new players trying to gel and work as a cohesive unit.
Yes by November teams should certainly have the kinks out after playing their fall league schedules in full and a few tournaments.
So I was curious where all the most recent Penn State Players that just won the NCAA Cup achieve their position to get on that College Roster: So below is a brief history of the starting players and sub's accomplishments prior to being on PS roster and it's amazing how many of similar or different paths from WMT, ODP, ECNL, Class year Etc that the group had. Interesting enough many of them even dual sported in HS as one even Skied Competitively. Height looks like it wasn't a factor as 5'3, 5'5, 5'4 players played significantly. Summary below of Starting and Subs Youth Playing history: •D: 5-6’ SO – Richmond ECNL, ID2, NSCAA HS All American, Gatorade Player of the Year honors, All Metro Player, Conference Player of the Year, All Region, All 1st Team, Army Reserve Scholar Athlete.•D: 5-7’ So – FC Virginia ECNL, WNT u17-u20, All-District and Region – Lettered in Basketball.•F: 5-7’ So - Beadling Soccer Club, NSCAA All-America honoree, Tribune-Review Player of the Year, Member of the swimming and softball teams•M: 5-5’ Jr - PDA ECNL, WNT u18-u20, Region I and II ODP, all-county and all-state honoree•GK: 5-10’ Sr - FC Frederick, Region 1 ODP, ODP National Camp, Also Lettered in Track: All-Decade Cross Country team, state record holding 4x400m relay, top ranked 500m•D: 5-3’ So - Sporting Blue ECNL, Region II ODP, ODP Annual Thanksgiving Interregional invitee 4 straight years, Gatorade Player of the Year honoree, NSCAA All-America, All-Metro first team honoree, Also competed for Marian's cross country team•M: 5-5’ So - Internationals SC, WNT u18-u20, id2 National Training Camp, ODP teams at the state and regional level.•D: 5-8’ FR - Braddock Road Youth Club, WNT u18-u20, NSCAA All-American, ODP USYS Region 1•M: 5-6’ Sr - Member of the Costa Rica Women's National Team since 2012, CONCACAF Female Player of the Year nominee•F: 5-7’ So - FC Bucks ECNL, Gatorade Pennsylvania Player of the Year, Four-time All-Region, first team All-State and Suburban One National League Player of the Year honorees, Three-time NSCAA All-America, State Coaches Association State Player of the Year, Also lettered in basketball and track and field•F: 5-6’ Sr - Michigan Hawks ECNL, WNT u20, All-State honors, three All-Conference and three All-District, ODP Regional player, captain of the Northville basketball team•Sub for M: 5-4’ So - Penn Fusion ECNL, WNT u18, NSCAA All-America, NSCAA All-Region II honors, All-State selection•Sub for D: 5-6’ So - Oakwood Soccer Club, WNT u14-u20, No. 1 player in the Eastern Regional, No. 2 defensive player nationally and No. 5 overall player in for the class of 2015, Also competed in Cross Country, Runner of the Year and all-conference, all-state honoree.•Sub for F: 5-4’ So - Penn Fusion ECNL, USYS U-16 ODP Region 1, NSCAA All-America, All-State Class A honoree, HS Player of the Year, Also Skied Competitively in which she is was ranked sixth nationally among 1996-born athletes ... Won the 2012 USSA National Junior Finals and placed fourth in the USSA Junior Olympics in 2011
Great list! I am super impressed with how the psu coaches have been able to create a true selfless, team focused environment with all of that talent.
2:50 would you say that a few teams seem to have the "kinks" worked out well before November? Its not like these teams are taking on 6 or 7 players and trying to find a spot for them. Most are taking on 2-3 new ones
The anti-ECNL crowd is speechless after 256's post. Can't wait for any of them to even take a stab at justifying EDP or NPL now.
@256 Great Post Amazing all the smack talk we have yes ECNL is a path but look at all the other accomplishments outside of playing in that league that those players have done. Also I'm re-thinking the ODP factor is still alive as well. One thing is for sure if your daughter wants to ever play at the highest level in College their is a lot of work to do I see. 7 WMT Honoree's and 1 from NT from Costa Rico that says a lot about the program's recruitment.
Granted, a lot of ECNL players play for Penn State. But what of the young soccer player growing up in State College who may look up to these players? The closest ECNL clubs to State College are PF and Continental about 170 miles away. Realistically, no opportunity for the promising athlete to play ECNL unless her family relocates (which is not unheard of). So if college programs prefer ECNL players, they effectively are basing their selection process on family circumstances over player ability. Is this the best way, or is there something better?
Amazing how many WMT invitees are on 256 list and also how many Sophomore's contributed to the title. Can anyone you also do Duke's and where did you go to see who started the game. Thanks for posting!
448 Sorry I see 5 players that are not ECNL on that list, granted their were more ECNL players who played but like the person posted there were different paths players took. I like that post very much!
December 9 @ 9:35. You weren't impressed? You obviously did not see this game. Both teams played on a field that closed right after their game due very poor conditions. Neither team could stand on their feet during the whole game. Neither team was abled to played soccer at all on that field
I count 6 that came from outside ECNL including the international player.
6:29 what are even talking about? Penn State is a state school a Public school with a great soccer program. If they want to play in the NWSL go for it - if it's for the education, wow.Look man if the kid can ball it doesn't matter how tall they are, since we are talking elite level players, the impact players on the best teams.
Some important datesMay 7-8--- 2016 RCL Elite Division playoffs June 5-6--- 2016 Eastern Development Program - NPL PlayoffsJune 5-7--- 2016 Region I ODP TournamentJune 18-19- 2016 Northeast Girls NPL PlayoffsJune 23-28- 2016 ECNL Playoffs: Oceanside, CA June 25-26- 2016 Region I ODP Tournament Semis and FinalsJune 27-30- National Cup Mid-Atlantic Regional: Somerset, NJJuly 1-5--- 2016 USYS Region I Championships: Barboursville, WVJuly 12-16- 2016 Region I Girls ODP ID Camp: July 14-18- 2016 NPL Finals: Aurora, COJuly 22-25- 2016 National Cup XV Finals: Aurora, COJuly 25-30- 2016 USYS National Championships Frisco, TX
Where did everyone go?
We have been busy getting the Crush-copter ready for that long trip to Colorado, it takes time and lots of money. On another note, if the team doesn't quite make it, we can always turn left and head toward the Grand Canyon.
Good to see Crush relevant again
Going to Colorado makes a team relevant? Wouldn't they have to be relevant in their own state first?
Not from Crush, but if they win their NPL, or USC Sate Cup, then yes they are a good team. Although they did have a pretty easy fall NPL schedule, lest see how they do this spring.
Crush Grooving doesn't need to be relevant in their own state, just in their own league. Win your league go to Nationals. NYCSL NPL through them a curve this year by adding a playoff (I hate PLAYOFFS). 9 games played 9 wins with only 2 GA easy schedule or not still impressive. Big wins over STA and Massapequa. All they need to finish is top 2 in their division and that will take 1 win out of 7 games to be played so they can concentrate on USC NJ Cup instead of every league game meaning something in the quest for a league title. Playoffs really suck in my opinion, I've said this for years, the one league that had it right caved in. Who cares about the teams that are eliminated - it's about the best teams in the table taking care of business every week no roomfor a slip or a so so win, that's the type of pressue that adds to development. So if they win their first game this Spring they can coast until the playoffs.Since I'm on this league the East is wide open 20 pts ISA18 pts Massapequa16 pts Manhattan13 pts NYSC13 pts QuickstrikeWhile the West is locked up with NJ Crush and STA advancing no doubts.Go Crush Grooving :)
Advancing where?Dont all 12 teams make playoff?
2:27 That was my assumption top 2 teams from each division like EDP and total number of 4 is equal to NorthEast girls NPL. I'm not in the In crowd and don't know if any communications were sent to the clubs. The website doesn't talk about so i went with my best guess.12 would be crazy, why play the regular season then if everyone qualifies that's as bad as EDP with their 4/5 games schedule to determine the playoff teams. All the teams are close there is no reason why you can't do a home/away for a total of 20+ games.
@12:10. The only reason you say Crush isn't relevant is because you and maybe other people on this board have decided that they aren't relevant. They have continued to play Fi in every tournament this year. And have beaten quite a few "relevant" NJ teams. They may not be a match for Storm. But few, if any teams are.
How would we ever know?
5:01 Crush F1 in tournaments? Which tournaments were those. Must not have been many teams in them from outside of NJ. Your post sounds like an egg salesmen saying "well these rotten eggs are a lot fresher than these other rotten eggs". I'm sure there are some really good eggs on the Crush and if they had a few more ingredients, would actually become relevant and make a great cake.
Relevant? They are in 1st Place in their league BEST record.On a side note because this is like stupid talk. Great news for our kids. NWSL expanded and will add another expansion team in Orlando. They join Houston as the expansion teams added by the league, both owned by MLS clubs.True Academy teams (top team only):FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNLOrlando City YS 01/02G ECNLWest New York FLASH ACADEMY GIRLS 01/02WASHINGTON SPIRIT ACADEMYSorry 6:46 your kid's team didn't make the list. So they are just like NJ Crush but if it makes you feel better -your kid'steam is relevant. I feel like I'm watching an episode from person of interest with all this talk about relevant lists
9:02 My kid would only be on your daughters team if she wasn't playing for a top team that doesn't play NPL teams. Although at least two of your players could make our team if they didn't mind limited minutes, so I would encourage your daughter to try out. Still waiting to see what significant teams you beat as an F1 this year. Best record in the league is correct, but that's kind like saying you have the best horse in a donkey race. Nothing wrong with that though, you should be proud of your daughter and her team.
I'm a coward and but hole? I didn't write anything bad. :(
7:11, my favorite store!Why bother to defend, everyone here is slightly delusional, which is okay by me. Its like trying to convince someone that they can be nice, and kind, to strangers. I would say that 99% of the bloggers on this board believe that their child’s team is both competitive and relevant, even when they lose, which is cool. You are allowed to disagree with others, as they are allowed to disagree with you. I have tried to be thoughtful in my posts about youth soccer, but its pointless. All some care about is wins and loses, but this is not FanDuel, and the stakes are much more important, the health and happiness of our children...
Sorry I'm a "DraftKings" vs FanDuel. Great lateral concept are we more worried about Wins "Fanduel" bloggers or College Recruitment "DraftKings" Bloggers. My vote is Draftkings because nobody puts your U14/U15 records of wins and championships on their profile. Great example of the Penn State post of players a few days ago.
10:18 a great example of the type of A-Hole parent and in some case coaches in that self proclaimed "We are the greatest" club in the north. As far as why everyone who is good enough to get some minutes on your team doesn't want to try out take a look at yourself in the mirror to find your answer.
Any progress made by Crush has been offset by bad losses this fallWere they to go 20-0?No. But you cant lose to Manhattan at NEWSS and you cant lose like they did at State Cup.Results out of NPL may not be following actual skills progession but they will need to and soon.
11:14 that's the point of a Showcase or any Tournament, isn't it? test your team against good teams and see where you stand. Make adjustments for when the games count. First in league play. they are still in line for a spot at Denver and get to play Manhattan again when it counts. Failed at NJ Cup and will miss out on WV to try and duplicate what ONLY the NJ Wildcats have done as a Non-ECNL team. Play at NPL Finals and Region1 Championships. NJCSA has that opportunity with NJ Wildcats in the way of the NPL Finals - but they already booked their trip to WV.
NWSL commissioner Jeff Plush says the league hopes to include 14 teams by the year 2020.The NWSL started as an eight-team league in 2013 and added the Houston Dash as an expansion team ahead of the 2014 season and the Orlando Pride will begin play in the NWSL in 2016 as the league’s 10th team.4 more teams from the below list of possible ownership group.Los AngelesHartford, ConnecticutSeattle Sounders WomenVancouver Whitecaps WomenFC IndianaReal Salt LakeIndy ElevenPittsburgh RiverhoundsAtlantaCanadaTHIS IS GREAT NEWS FOR our KIDS. Something for a few of the elite players to shoot for instead of going overseas to play professionally.1. High School and Club play2. College3. NWSL/UEFA4. NT/InternationalAll the kids will play at one if not more of these levels.
10:37 Didn't I say the guy should be proud of his daughter and her team? Are we not allowed to have views when posters make statements on here that are kind of silly? If because I have a different view of Crush and the No Potential League makes me an asshole, so be it. Sorry it does not meet your stepford view and you got your feelings "CRUSHED". I notice you did not criticize the original poster for saying "sorry you daughter didn't make the team". While I admire the girls that play in the league and their efforts to improve, a few of the parents are often out of touch with reality. Still waiting to see what tournaments Crush dominated as an F1.
You didnt say dominant in your first post. You said which tournaments were Crush F1 in.Look it up yourself. You will also be able to see which other teams participatedHave a nice day
Not sure you want people going to your GS view, looks like a really bad report card.
I asked which tournaments was Crush F1 in that they beat the so called "relevant" teams? Not my term, it was the one used by the original poster. As the girls have gotten older and teams are starting to condense, there are not as many highly competitive teams, so tournaments have consistently looked inferior to the year before. I wanted to know which highly competitive tournaments that Crush was beating these teams. Still haven't got an answer to that question.
Whats wrong with all those zero's? There is one "A" on the report card. Well...kind of an "A". Kind of grades parents that parents take away phones for.
2:36 you are the one with the serious Crush obsession. Former team? What then?I called Crush "relevant" a while back - jokingly, as they got a mention here - and hadnt in a while.Dont be so serious and so snaggletoothed
Didnt someone here already say Crush have underperformed outside NPL, giving specifics as well?Why ask beyond that, 2:36?Did you have something else?
2016 NPL FinalsJuly 14-18, 2016Aurora Sports Park Aurora, COAny of the teams that are contenders for the NPL finals are relevant regardlress of what any of us think.Current leaderNEFCNJ CrushPDA SouthFC VirginiaNJ Wildcats/LVUNYCSL NPL 2015-2016 - PTS27 NJ Crush FC NPL-0120 STA NPL-0120 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-0118 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-0116 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-0113 New York Soccer Club NPL-0113 Quickstrike FC NPL-019 New York Rush NPL-019 Match Fit Academy NPL-014 Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-013 Princeton SA NPL-013 NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01--------------------------------------New England Girls NPL - PTS21 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS16 OAKWOOD SC 13 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02 9 YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE 8 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02 7 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 5 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G 0 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL --------------------------------------NPL Virginia - PTS29 FC VIRGINIA24 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB20 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER18 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION 16 CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION14 VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER14 RICHMOND KICKERS 13 NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB10 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB 11 FC UNITED3 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB1CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC --------------------------------------NPL Northeast Girls League - PTS32 PDA South 01 NPL 28 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL 28 PDA North 01 NPL21 Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL 21 East Meadow SC 01 NPL 20 World Class FC 01 NPL 18 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL15 Continental FC 01 NPL13 FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL 12 FSA FC 01 NPL7 FC Bucks 01 NPL6 Connecticut FC 01 NPL 4 Albertson SC 01 NPL -------------------------------------EDP NPL - PTS3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL3 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS0 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 0 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL 0 JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL 0 NJCSA ELITE 0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA 0 SJEB '01G NPL0 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREY
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4:05 my, my, my. didn't mean to crush your little feelings. Just asked a simple question about Crush. Everyone was all over Ajax on here when they got roughed up, but you don't like it when its your team is running away from the wheel of misery. Hope Santa brings you something nice this year.
I think 3-5-1 is an improvement for Crush on the fall tourney circuitAnd as mentioned that throw away vs Manhattan - ouch - would have had them at .500. Losses to Penn Fusion, South Shore and Oakwood among the 5. Couple of bad ones.
That does look like a team headed in the right direction. Much like Boco, but without the cute mommies.
Of course it was suppose to say Boca.
I think most of this board is crush poster and always has been. I would agree with others, GS4 life dude does sound a lot like the crush backer too. You will probably end up like your current u15 team soon, the one you talked about last year when they were in your same spot. What happened next? They lost and all the girls left. WCFC is right up the street, move if they will take you. Hope you have an 02.
I think Crush would tell you, "lets take one year at a time"Obviously their player development is excellent, with talent going all over the map.
Certainly no better place to be at the younger ages.
If you have 3k plus to spend and like playing on cow pastures.
10:25Their player development is poor. The talented players leave because the trainers and club is an inferior product. They cater to the middle of the pack player. The most committed players become frustrated and seek a home where the club is more dedicated and have better track records.This is the first time I ever heard someone trying to flip the script and say the because their better talent is leaving they must be a good club.Did you you see their college commitment page. It speaks volumes to the talent level and training.- which of course is non existent
And does a walk on really count?
5 of the female players named NSCAA 1st team All-America are foreigners, 11 foreigners among the 3 All-American Teams .
3K or nothing, players develop themselves. A good teacher is of great benefit but can't make gold form lead. Players are born, not made.
I disagree, kids are born with their physical tools. They can watch youtube videos, play wall ball and juggle to a million all they want. They need good teachers to learn the skills needed to be a good player and then they need to learn how to interpret the game and understand the game only then can they become good players and without good teachers well good luck pal. Any soccer parent knows the type of coach their kid has by the way they play. They are 14 by know they should know to pass to the right foot, they should know the ball is faster than the player can ever be and they should know that it takes a team to win. If teams played to win by making the field smaller or just playing bombs away to use their physical tools well they will suffer now when teams start playing tactical. Because every player that wants to play at the highest levels has the physical tools, don't kid yourself the ones that learned how to play will have a HUGE advantage
11:58 I disagree- some kids are born very gifted - key word is some.I have 4 kids, 3 kids are extremely athletic. all very good in their sports that they play. My one kid that is not as athletic realized at a young age that she\he is not able to do what his brother and sisters are able to do. This kid works hard, every night does exercises, practices, goes 150% at every practice. after years of determination, my one child who is not as gifted ends up being the best athlete in our town for every sport he plays. My point is, a kid with work ethic will bypass any kid with skill that does not put forth the work to get better
11:58Thousands of players have been taught what you describe practice after practice after practice after practice. Only some of them seem to understand and execute these lessons. It's the player.
One thing all of you are forgetting is a players metal ability that is not taught it is a trait and desire to want to be a great player or athlete. You can have all the tools, training, physical nature but if your kids doesn't have the mental stability of being confidence and putting their heart to what they love then you can call it the day and just let them enjoy the sport with friends.
1:22 I like your approach on players mental aptitude when it comes to moving on to the next level. By U14, almost every team ends up with many really good athletes on it and personally speaking, teams that just rely on those athletes suffer from that age and onward. I not sure if great soccer players are just born, but I do think that great players are born (or at least raised) with a mindset that they want to be the best at everything.
Try playing multiple sports. If your child is great at all of them, she will do well. The athlete wins in the end, period.
148 Agree look at the Penn State Roster previously posted look how many multi-sport athletes were on it. Even with today being Abby Wambach's last game she admitted basketball helped be a better soccer player by helping her judge the ball in the air better.
Messi wasn't much of a basketball or football player but he found his footing in soccer.
Yes it is true that when you look at the roster, many players were multi sport players. But I bet if you looked deeper, they were soccer players first and that was their main sport, and they had great technical training early. Just watch a high school soccer game and its easy to pick out the athletes that do not play soccer full time. They are great at getting to the ball and then its totally downhill from there. On the boys side especially, it amazing how a fast soccer player can join in and play football at the high school level and be effective, but a football player that hasn't played soccer is totally reduced to a just kick it player. Girls athletes crossing over into soccer at a late age offer the same results.
Little different today than when Abby was a kid, and nobody is the next Abby. Very hard to play elite soccer and competitive basketball today at this age or older. 11, 12, 13, you can still do it.
6:29 Absolutely! Try convincing your HS basketball coach that you can't practice on Saturday because you have a fall or winter showcases through late November and into December. Even middle school basketball coaches that believe they have invented the game will bristle at players not being at every practice. Track coaches are a little more forgiving, often happy to have really fast players show up.
You are paying.You do not need to attend the showcase if you have basketball. You pick and you choose.
7:45 If you are a high school sophmore or junior, why would you not attend a showcase? Isn't that kind of the reason for putting all this work in for the last eight years? I love seeing my kid play basketball and fully appreciate that everyone needs to be at practice, but the reality is that no one is coming to watch my kid play basketball. Of course the choice has to lie with the player, but times have change from when we were a teenagers playing three sports. Even high school coaches battle one another for players, just ask girls field hockey, volleyball and soccer coaches who players play in the same season (same with boys football and soccer).
Anyone's kid get an invite to the USTC NE Combine?
One showcase is just ONE chance for coaches to see your daughter.Do you have any idea what school she wants to attend - or are you just going to see who shows interest and cones across with some $$?I couldnt get over the kids that skipped their state final to showcase. Mind boggling.
I don't think 2016 combine invites went out yet.
1:58 Why is it mind boggling? They elected to do something else, what's wrong with that?
1:58 We're not talking about skipping a State Final for a showcase, I'm talking about missing a couple Saturday practices to makes showcases that a junior needs to be at. Let me know what B-ball coach is even willing to accept that? Most players, especially ones on the fringe, know their chances are few and need all the exposure they can get. And if a player is serious and the parents are too, then players should absolutely know what coaches are at the showcase they are heading too. Letting the coaches know what field they are playing and at what time. If you have ever been to the sod farm complex in NJ for a U17 and U18 showcase, then you know what I'm talking about. As many as five coaches watching one game in the coaching area, and players hoping to have a "wow" moment and catch their eye. Doesn't happen if they are at a Saturday practice. Skipping a state final does sound crazy and no way I would allow my kid to disrespect the school, players and themselves by doing that. But what if your not one of the starters? Maybe then?
5:06 I like everything you said except "I would allow my kid to disrespect the school, players and themselves by doing that".So disrespecting their soccer team/players/families is okay? If they are a impact or core player they are a huge part of how the team showcases itself when it's needed the most for some players.Conflicts will happen if you play more than one sport - that's why I asked my kid to pick one. It's not fair to whoever comes in second the coach/players/parents as they count on your kid being part of the team. It's not like when I was a kid fall was one sport and spring was another- now sports are 12 months and conflicts will occur. But to each their own.
We have our 1st 15/16 National ChampionSuper Y League 2015 Finals1 MIDWEST UNITED FC 02 ROYAL0 CYA Soccer Premier--------------------------------The Super Y champ has their way at Jefferson Cup last year.5:3 PDA DRAGONS (NJ)4:1 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)5:0 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
6:37 I'm sorry. Meant to say "I wouldn't allow my kid". That was a really bad typo on my part. You are completely right about anyone that would disrespect their school and team.
You're showing the U15 champ (listed as U14 because that's what they were last summer when the league played).The Super Y Champ for girls in this age group, ie, current U14s / born after Aug. 1, 2001, is Long Island Rough Riders, which beat another NYC team, SABA NYC, 4-0 for the championship.Congrats to those teams but Super Y is still a joke.
Not to mention giving props to those three teams. 1776 played Galaxy and STA Morris NPL to get their wins and then reality struck when they play a better team. PAC went 1-1-1 with 4 goals scored and gave up 6. As for the Ajax, don't they always do a little better when those mysterious guest players arrive? But give them credit, they did get to the finals before losing to WC. Does the Y in Super Y stand for Yawn?
I was showing U14http://sylsoccer.com/schedules/2015Finals/81085473.html
MIDWEST UNITED FC 02AKA GRAND RAPIDS CREW JUNIORSBeat 1776 & PAC two of PA's better teams 9-1They Tied and beat the 2 NorthEast girl NPL teams 7-5
Sorry you are correct forgot Super Y is already birth year.
Just goes to show you how bad 1776 and PA classics are. Imagine how bad those teams are that those two teams beat. But it was a lower bracket they both we're in, so its to be expected. Wildcats the only F1 NJ team worth mentioning at Jeff and Bethesda. Previous poster right on the money with saying Super Y is a joke.
2:50, I disagree with you, and you are a dickhead.
Since PDA Storm is going to Jeff Cup It's a good bet Ajax won't apply.
Ajax has 1 single player that is registered with them and plays for Storm. She must be quite the player to generate the talk on here. It is more realistic that they are simply 13 year old girls that just aren't consistent. Good days and bad days. My daughters team has played them a few times and I have seen both the good and bad.
7:07 Try to not make yourself look so foolish by being a mouthpiece. Isn't kind of strange to see players during league play and different ones at a tournament? I will give PDA credit for at least letting their teams play in tournaments with non ecnl teams.
Yes, only one Ajax player plays with the Storm, but Storm and Dragons players play with Ajax routinely when needed to get wins. I think this fall we have seen what Ajax can do without help...
Storm and Dragon players with AJAX. Lol! Where do you come up with this?
Many times Storm players have played for Ajax at tournaments, that has been going on for years, but Dragons players do not play with Ajax.
The ignorance is comical.
HehWay to shut em up, 8:58
6:15 is right about the ignorance being comical. For the Ajax parents to pay those fees and not have a chance of their girls making the parent club is a joke. Its like going through four years of HS ball and never making the varsity.
The Ajax players are not eligibile to play for PDA Storm no matter if they are good enough as long as the 2 Rutgers coaches are working with the Storm Team.they live too far from Rutgers Campus. With all the recent scandals within the Athletic Department at Rutgers and the football and basketball coaching scandals and now even the Athletic Director being fired it seems the PDA club and the Rutgers Coaches are no longer flouting the NCAA rules.
2 months and change to Manhattan Classic. Which teams are in? Do we see East Meadow? Will South Shore or NEFC come down? Anyone from further away than that?
Why would anyone want to see East Meadow?
Um the Ajax players may not be able to train with the PDA Storm coaches due to NCCA Rules but whom is to say they haven't trained with other coaches among the PDA ranks up north. The Calendar shift or playing up is very likely path now to be pulled up North.
Sure - if they are '02s they might get a shotBut then again the '02/'03 pre ECNL PDA team is nails. So tough for '02sTo think that Ajax players are "mixing in" with the '01s from Storm and the '01s from Splash is silly. But you never know
So you knock PDA for promoting girls from AJAX and Dragons to Storm and then criticize them for not promoting girls from AJAX and Dragons.
PDA North is going to be in a good shape. They will take players from South and Shore that they want plus they have two strong teams up north per age already. PDA will continue to be in the NJ top 3 at '02, '01 and '00 with what they currently have if they don't add. The players they take will need to upgrade their current roster depth players. So if they add they will only improve even more.
4:31 No one is saying that Ajax players are mixing in with Storm players, its obvious Storm players only come in from outside clubs. But Storm players do join in with Ajax at tournaments, and again there is nothing wrong with that either. It give Storm players that don't get great minutes a chance to shine. It also give current Ajax players an understanding of what it takes to reach the next level.
And those players give Ajax Team a chance to win some games at tournaments.
Haven't I read on this blog that at least 6 players came to Storm from AJAX and Dragons this year?
Must have been another PDA lie to help the recruiting efforts at AJAX and Dragons.
Its not a lie. It was the six players that tried to helped Ajax in a couple tournaments during the spring. After the weekend was over they came back. PDA is above spreading propaganda for the sake of recruitment, their tryout numbers do not need that kind of help.
Maybe those 6 players helped Dragons?
Is the Manhattan Classic the tournament that keeps getting canceled every year?
PDA above spreading propaganda? Wow Pinocchio your nose is really growing!You PDA people really think that we parents are really stupid if you think we beleive that BS.Storm Assistant Coach is on this site daily.
It is a known fact that PDA forbids coaches to be on here and discourages parents from doing so.
Believe what 10:14?
It is a known fact? I don't think so. That was a long time ago. Notice there is no longer the PDA disclaimer posted about that(rememeber "PDA discourages parents from posting on blog").PDA Storm Assistant/Parent Coach is on here regularly defending PDA Club. You need to get up to snuff 10:47. That policy may have been true at one time but that ship has sailed.
You talk nonsense 8:35. Why all the hate for PDA? There are no clubs that have a perfect reputation. Some are closer than others though.
: PDA North has approx 70 kids at tryouts for approx 40 spots.: Approx 30 kids not offered a spot every year.: Impact players are always taken: Core players from other teams are taken to replace current roster depth: Players always know where they stand top, middle or bottom 3rd each season: Bottom 3rd is your signal to have a plan B for next season: 4 ECNL players can play for a NPL team in the rules: 5 can play as guest players at most tournaments : Some parents will be happy: Some parents will not be happy: Every club doesn't want their parents talking smack on a boardSome PDA Facts that are similar to most high level clubs:So why hate? Because they say they don't bring their A list to tournaments?At this age 22 players can be rostered for the event but only 18 per game.Our own NT didn't bring their A list to the last game vs China. They lost does that make China better? Maybe since it bothers people when ECNL parents say the same thing. If you read this board maybe since we only beat China 1-0 at the World Cup with our A list they are now better than us.
They don't bring their A list to tournaments? What are you talking about.The only complaint was that they stack Ajax with playes from Storm for tournaments so they can make better showing. No one said Storm brings anything but their best when atteending a F1 major event.Storm has NEVER taken less than their best to F1 in highly competitive tournament.They go to EDP Cup and the like to let "bench " players get their time, or let them go to tournament with Ajax. Nice try though. Is that an attempt to get out in front of possible poor performance by Storm since they are finally stepping out of ECNL cocoon to play Jeff Cup?Will we hear "We didn't bring our strongest team" if they bomb out and don't advance?
Hit the nail on the head there 1:42. 12:47's post answers his own question about why the hate. Just tired of posts telling us how great your club is while hedging your bets in case the teams performance does not match the rhetoric. If you want to make those claims"impact players always taken", "70 more players than we can take always show up at tryouts", "30 players turned away every year".then don't complain when you don't perform and you are called out for it.Stop with the tired excuses and we didn't really try or we don't care. Truth is with all those advantages you claim there is no excuse when your teams lose to those clubs working with much less when you match up.
1:42 & 1:49 so then you agree with me that China is better than our USA? We can't make excuses about it being Wombach's last game since we only beat this team 1-0 at the World Cup (F1)?I wasn't complaining my shot was more at the USSF and the possible future a head of us after as more of the golden year girls go away funny how you took it as a Storm defense. I said PDA facts similar to most high level clubs. I never once said Storm. So does China have a better NT than ours or are they equal to us? we beat them 1-0 they beat us 1-0. Going by your argument we can't say we are better even though all you had to do is watch both games and you know this isn't a debate. But the FACTS are we are 1-1 vs them and that's all you guys care about the results right?
The argument with your post was with your statement that they don't bring their A Team to tournaments. that is incorrect. They stack each team as best they can for F1 majors. No argument with fact that USA didn't play their best vs China.
12:47 Its obvious that you are a coach and the last part of your post really is kind of silly. PDA's numbers at tryouts and its ability to put out a great product with its top team is really not in question and certainly not affected by the talk on this board. But everyone on here is tired of the PDA posters trying to have it both ways when their teams don't show well at tournaments (which happens a lot). When PDA wins its because of how superior the training is, but a loss is due to not playing the top players. So if PDA heads to Jeff Cup, I guess we should say now that the top players will not be playing?
2:58 obvious you say? yeah and GS 4 Life = GotSoccer 4 life and not GoodSoccer 4Life? Okay you win you are mr know it all PDA stinks maybe I should have said STA instead of PDA then you have cracked on STA right?: STA has approx 70 kids at tryouts for approx 35 spots.: Approx 35 kids not offered a spot every year.: Impact players are always taken: Core players from other teams are taken to replace current roster depth: Players always know where they stand top, middle or bottom 3rd each season: Bottom 3rd is your signal to have a plan B for next season: NPL players can guest for EDP team at most tournaments : Some parents will be happy: Some parents will not be happy: Every club doesn't want their parents talking smack on a boardSo does this hold true? Also facts from google, I guess I must be an STA coach now.
Okay my gift to you guys that didn't like PDA / USWNT compareYour Non-Official Spring flights Girls U14 1st Division South PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)SEVP BLACK THUNDER (MD)PIPELINE BLACK (MD)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)HFC READY '01 (PAE)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)Girls U14 1st Division CentralNJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)*** SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)*** LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)WALL SC WAVE (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)Girls U14 1st Division North *** ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL (NYE)GPS NJ FLASH (NJ)*** NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)*** NJCSA ELITE (NJ)*** TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)HBC SPARK (NYE)Girls U14 2nd Division NorthSABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)*** JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL (NJ)LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE)SDFC SAMBA (NJ)PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02 (NYE)THISTLE COMETS (NJ)NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY TEMPEST (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED 01 (NJ)Girls U14 2nd Division Central *** FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)*** NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREY (NJ)MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOTSHOTS (NYE)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)OCEAN TOWNSHIP UNITED SA HURRICANES (NJ)HAMILTON ELITE FC - ACADEMY AVALANCHE (NJ)UPPER 90 FURY (PAE)HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNING (NJ)Girls U14 2nd Division South BETHESDA STORM 01 (MD)SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)PIPELINE SC RED (MD)PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM (PAE)*** MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01G (MD)WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER '02 (NJ)SAC PREMIER WHITE (MD)ALLIANCE SC ARSENAL (MD)LTSC STRIKERS 01/02 (PURPLE) (MD)MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE (MD)*** NPL Teams
PDA depth is not as good as many opponents best 111That is the only point that needs to be taken from all thisIts not so surprising. Players would rather not deal with ECNL if they wont play regularly, even if given some extra minutes in showcases.
And in other news, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
4:26 I would agree with that any team's roster depth/core players are not as good as other's impact/core players. I don't think any would argue that - but I'm willing to bet it's not more than a 1 maybe 2 goal game. Which tells me they are pretty good and on any given day they could win.I also agree players would rather not deal with that BUT parents WOULD DEF NOT PAY 2k to sit more than play at this age. No arguments here any your point is taken. But to say they are not the best u14 team in state is crazy talk. Sounds like you have seen every team play and besides your kid's team who plays better than they do? I didn't say wins more, I said plays better?Tell me you liked my EDP spring gift though even if we don't agree. Say something positive
PDA will bring their best 14 to the Jeff cup. The next 4 will be interchangeable with any other 4 not attending.They will try to win but they will give 15 to 18 more opportunity to play more minutes.If they lose, it will be a legit lose based on their best effort.PDA Storm is a very good solid team with missing pieces in the middle and at the forward position.They will be ranked as a top 5 regional team but their mission statement is to be a top national team - ranked somewhere between 1and 3. They are not their yet. They may get there.
Nice try 3:58 but we know you are the PDA asistant coach.All you did was substitute STA for PDA in your last post. And really STA was struggling to field enough players right out of the box this fall so a very lame comparison indeed.And now Storms depth is not as good as the others best 11?Seriously not 1 month ago you were claiming your B and C Teams were as good as others best 11.
Dude, you sure I'm not with Crush? that's who this board thought i was with a few days ago. From Dec 14th - "I would agree with others, GS4 life dude does sound a lot like the crush backer too."Now I sound like a PDA coach, great, who am I next?
I am hoping those brackets are not true, there are going to be some really lopsided scores in at least of the brackets, where two teams will dominate the rest of the field.
5:59 I have to be careful how I phrase this so I don't lumped in with another team. Since you care so much about who the posters are with. 8:12 I have said for a few years now that EDP should scrap this north/central/south thing, the teams picked them so they can get high quality games not save a dime on gas. If they wanted that they would still be in JAGS/PAGs. They want the best. I used the teams in their d1 flights for the below re-work.F1 NPL - champion Advances if not NPL the the next best NPL team.pro/rel 2 teams each flight.1. *** ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL (NYE)2. *** LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)3. *** NJCSA ELITE (NJ)4. *** NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)5. *** SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)6. *** TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)7. 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)8. CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)9. PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)10. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)F2 1. HBC SPARK (NYE)2. HFC READY '01 (PAE)3. NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)4. NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)5. PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)6. RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)7. REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)8. UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)F31. BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)2. PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)3. SEVP BLACK THUNDER (MD)4. PIPELINE BLACK (MD)5. RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)6. WALL SC WAVE (NJ)7. GPS NJ FLASH (NJ)8. SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)
9:44 can you please submit your brackets to EDP. That would be much better for all teams involved
Any teams communicating about the age transition? We have heard it's happening but no details from DOC.
Nope, and my kid is 2002, and its a problem, she plays on a split team of 01’s and 02’s, and the girls who are 02’s and playing on the u13 team are not exactly YNT material, not sure what to do, we love the club, but she wants to play HS in the fall.
Yes the birth year switch is a go. If over 50% of Region 1 clubs are starting 2016-17, there's really not much choice...
I think most teams at this age will ride out the last few years and play up. The larger clubs like MF, PDA and WC, will make a clean cut and heavily discourage playing up, everyone will want to and the clubs will make it very difficult.
U15 - Born in 2002U16 - Born in 2001I hear most clubs will decide how many kids are playing up but this is mostly due to roster numbers. I fear some existing U14 teams will disappear...
Other than for the competition why would anyone play up? Playing in your age group with most girls in your grade is a way to stand out.
Some ECNL clubs will not have players playing up (PF being one of them). 02's that are already struggling for minutes would really be at a disadvantage. Many parents are assuming that just because their 02 daughter is playing well, that they will be able to play up. They are discounting the ability of the 01's that are playing U15 now and will be part of the U16's next year. Parents that think if they keep their teams together and ignore the BYC, are in for a rude awakening.
FWIW, I hear FCV is planning to keep theirECNL team together next year. As good as they are, I don't think they can hang with a top team of all 01s.
PF already has a few 02's playing up! If they are able to compete then why move down. I say if a kid is able to play and get quality minutes you continue playing up. You don't push a kid down to JV squad just because she isn't a Jr. or Sr. Come on we are talking about majority of the girls parents on this blog will in HS anyway competing against older girls anyway it's only the few born Nov,Dec that will be still in 8th grade. So don't make statements unless you know the facts.
3:16 has the gist of it.PF has a one 2002 on the current U14 team that plays up (proper age U13) and one 2002 who plays up on the current U15 team (proper age U14). My guess is the current U14 player will play proper age next year with the 2002s, while the current U15 player will continue to play up with the 2001s next year.Playing up is definitely available at PF for certain players.
If players are truly playing up now and they are top half on a team, chances are they will continue. A 2002 playing u14 currently will be like all the rest. The 2002 playing u15 is what I consider playing up. If she is top on the team, she should continue. Very few girls on the top teams truly play up. i would consider an 03 playing this age group playing up.
what dribble.It depends on the context of the competition . Next year if you are an 02 playing up for PDA at the 01 level you are a significant player.
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