I don't think there will be many comments, unless its a Crush parent, celebrating after the fact. Most people don't take GFA very seriously, for whatever reason, who cares. I think the u12 team is pretty good, they beat our girls, barely, but I have to tip my hat, a win is a win, good, bad or ugly.
CRUSH TOP TEAM THIS WEEKEND , no doubt we can play with anybody anytime champs
3:47, please shut up, I like the other guy better.
4:01, are you a counterfeit Crush parent, or a real red-blooded, God fearing, Amercia Loving Crush parent?If that latter, good job. If not, F/O.
i am just a soccer parent with an opinion that this weekend Crush were the best team.
i like your "red-blooded God fearing "stuff though
Just a soccer parent, peddle that somewhere else mac, this forum is for soccer fanatic’s, yes, fans.
Crush has great program...GFA is new can't bash them for trying.
soccer hooligans!!! yes!! let's fight!!! oh wait a second is my 11 years old daughter on the field? hmm
I know, I know, I am very entertaining, but I have to ask, why did GFA lose this weekend? Did your best player not play, and you know of who I speak.
GFA lost because there were two teams playing with the same ball on the same field with the same rules.Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. What's the big deal?
5 finals 3 titles, 1 third placeGood weekend for the club in orangeNo great statement in this tournament for Tsunami but wins over 2 tough teams they hadnt yet faced at 11 v 11. Including adding another out of state notch to the win column (LVU - #5 PAE)Doesnt tilt the power poll at all. Its still about 5 teams top tier and in no order. GFA can certainly knock on that door as it progresses.
4:13, really? That’s all you got? Really? Damn, that was weak, of course that is the case, but that is boring, boring, boring.
Crush remember how many u12 players left last season?. The same is about to happen again. CRUSHED!!!
i am the original parent that clarify first, i am not interested in much more than clarify my daughters team position. Any other comment are not important for me. I think they lost because Crush were more experience and took advantage in their best moment of the game and GFA didn't. they had the opportunity but didn't take it and the other team did. Nothing so complicated . there was not domination in the field by either of the two teams . Both had good moments and bad. GFA paid the bad moments with two goals against and that was it. As i said congratulation to the winners as always but overall i think they were the two best teams but not because they are extraordinary teams just the tournament was ok level wise and some teams were really poor technically, not disrespect for the players of course.one player no matter how good cannot carry a team for the entire game , can do for a while but eventually the team count.i hope with this to close the maps chapter as i do not think it was a tournament that deserve much more attention than what we already gave. thank you and good night all
Sweet Dreams GFA dad, enjoy winning 1st place in EDP North, that was a major accomplishment, cheers to you, and the team!
very sad what happened to East Brunswick this weekend, they were a good team a while ago
Very well said 4:18One day is enough to talk about MAPS challengeOn to something else tomorrow.
So what happened at EB, sounds ominous.
lets be clear GFA uses U11 players indeed, bring down U13 players to U12 of whom are age appropriate, indeed.Reason for both, well, they do not have enough players for 13 or 12's. If one or 2 players leave next year, team will struggle. I find it hard for some of these players staying at GFA, will join WC, PDA or MF next year.
Again your statement is based on guessing . Of course I respect your point of you but it is also important to have the right information. The two girls that play up to u13 sometimes is because they are good and grade appropriate. The u13 has 16-17 players in ther roster I think so should be plenty no?We are talking about something that is not important. Every club or every academy move players or moved players in some moment of their existence . Nothing new.Some teams use guest players some other use an extra player a year younger. What is new?lets focus on the great clubs like PDA and MF or WC. Based on your theory every player is going to end up there anyway no?
And I am not being sarcastic I really think we should talk about stuff that is relevant to youth soccer. We can find defects and good things in every club but at the end these major players like PDA and MF or WC are the ones that move the system. Good or bad
Not every play will end up there, of course not.I would like to have my kid play for one of those teams. If you say no to this notion then you are lying to yourself.
PA updateBethesda TournamentWCSC had a disappointing showing. First game was a complete domination over Bethesda. next game WCSC was shocked losing to eventual Champs Prince William in a very tight game. 3rd game was against its rival and WCSC showed why they are best PA team beating Ukrainian 4-2Ukrainian were the only team that tied the Prince William team and need a win over WCSC which did not happen. HMMS did not pull off a win. Unfortunate since this team played solid all weekend. I watched many games and I thought every team that attended for 8v8 and 11v11 where evenly matched.
Hello,I have a question for the group, please give your honest opinion.Although my child is one of the better (top 3) players on her team, she is not starting games as much anymore. Should I be concerned about this, how important is being a starter, does it matter? In todays changing coaching environment does starting mean as much as it did when I played back in the 80’s.Any thoughts, and yes, she really is top 3.Thanks!
Being a starter I think is still matters. Like everything else you should have the coach giving you an explanation why she doesn't. There could be many reason, you have the right to know what they are and then you decide if they are valid or not.Good player or bad player I think what parents really lack of is communication with the coaches in a constructive way. We guess too much until we create an issue that maybe it would have been solved in a minute conversation.Talk to the coach openly and constructive
"Crush remember how many u12 players left last season?. The same is about to happen again. CRUSHED!!!"The team is too good and unified for anyone to leave.Great program. Very good coaches who are great with the kids.
Does top 3 Suzie make it to every practice and game on time?
Yes, we are usually a half-hour early to both, it's not about that, nor is it about performance, she is very good. Cannot figure a way to phrase the question to the coach, so that I am not casting negative connotations, maybe I should just relax and not another thing to stress about, the list is full.
if she is indeed a top three player perhaps the coach is noticing something in her emotional engagement. Coaches will often take a top player and not start them in order to jump start the player.if she is a top 3 player and she goes to every practice and exhibits model behavior then perhaps he feels that due to the number of players on the team this is the best way for her to get maximum minutes on the field and and not show favoritism to the particular player by not starting the player. but giving the player lots of minutes.Another possibility is that the coach thinks you are leaving the program and there is no need to start her as he needs to develop other players in that position.Without knowing more about the situation, Its hard to pin point the cause.
Bigger question, does she play many minutes and will she typically be on field at end of game?
CRUSHED!! Look out not so unified!
Thanks, no we are not leaving, we love the team, and the training is second to none. Don’t think its a temperament issue, she competes, and wants to win every time.I asked her last week if she minds not starting, she said she did not care, as long as she is on the field the most, and the team wins, was so proud of that response.I think its the middle opinion, she started more than some in the 1st half of the season, will wait for the end of season analysis from the coach.Tx!
CRUSH, like all teams, COULD lose (I'd say up to 3) players......OR ZERO - time will tellThey added 3 very good ones this year....so it would be business as usual regardless.Cheers, CRUSH KILLA
9:04, she is on the field at the end of both halves, she usually replaces one of the other top 3 players, so that at that position, there is very little, or no drop-off in the level of play. Tactically, its the right move, but I am vested in the player, as all parents are.Tx!
Parent:The better teams (sounds like your daughter is on one) do not have a clear top 3......My best advice to you is to drop that tact altogether.....Look for sub patterns. Is she being moved around positionally? In games for short or long stretches? Speak to ASSISTANTS. They may provide insight without you leaving the impression of rocking the boat with the head coach.DONT voice anything to the other parents, if possible. That's a bad road.
9:17, she is on a top team, as far as GS points go, let’s leave that alone. She usually subs-out in the same position, but has moved around because of various in-game needs, but mostly same spot. My wife is my assistant, sooooo.A couple of the parents have approached me and have asked, why isn’t she in the game, sooooo.I am over thinking this, does being a starter signal importantance, does it mean anything at this level, she is 11 years old, not 16.
I am sure there are dozens of parents in the same situation, its seems normal to me, and just part of the competitive nature of this level. We are happy, she is happy, we just want her to be the best, wherever she is playing.
P.S. I have never (ever) used the Top 3 handle with any of other parents, its incredibly tacky and divisive, we really don’t want to go there. I use it to set a context for the bloggers, so that may better advise.
Parent:"The better teams (sounds like your daughter is on one) do not have a clear top 3....."All teams ,including the top programs have a top 3, these are the players that are identified for Tip, ID2,Regional ODP etc.A more correct statement is that top level teams need a team of strong consistent talent throughout the roster, not only 1-11 but the next 3 or 4 subs as well. it is in the best interest of the team and the coaches sanity not to favor any one or two players on the team even if they are top players.( on the contrary , many times the coaches are harder on these players)Experienced coaches know who their top two or three players are but show no favoritism and will sub out these players and not be hurt by the drop off. To show any signs of favoritism to the better players will hurt the overall program.But make no mistake, there are to 2 or 3 players in every top level program and these players are identified in these programs for top State, Regional and National play.
Sounds like you have older daughtersThe statement was for a U12 team.
10:27, thanks, will give the coach the benefit of the doubt, and I agree every top team has 3-4 girls who are more advanced, nothing wrong with that, talent cannot be coached, it can be refined, but you have to have it, whatever that ingredient is.Cheers!and NO I am not a PDA parent.
Just my input on the top 3 and tip program. My daughter is on one of the so called top if not the top teams and I can tell you the three from our team in the tip program are not the top 3. So dont go with that theory. Tip goes by the coaches reccomendation and nothing else. If you have mommy and daddy ball at your club, guess who is going to tip. Mommy or daddys favorites or the kiss a** parents who blow smoke up mommy or daddys a**.
Sounds like Match Fleece or PDAwonder which one
Neither, so just drop it.You will never guess, its not the point, we are all anonymous for a reason, need objective views, you got one 11:47?
Then why would you even say that daughter is on one of so called top teams if not the top Of course someone is going to ask..you put it out there
1128 sorry that your daughter did not make tip.No need to down play the program.The girls selected are the best of the best.She was not selected because she was not good enough.You must give credit where credit is due.Not one girl in the tip selected group looked like they didn't belong.So if they got picked because they were kissing the coaches butt like you say they would stick out among the rest of these girls.these girls are truely a talented group of athletes with unbelievable soccer skill,quickness,and soccer iq.Its incredible to watch.Not one girl that was selected on the squad looked like they didn't belong.The tryouts now that is a different story.Girls selected belong there.
See 12:29, you can't just drop it. He did not mention the team for a reason. You want to hear the team name so everyone can start rumors about that team. The point is he has asked a question to receive feedback, not bashing of his daughter's coach.
That person doesn't want feedback ..they are just upset that mommy and daddy ball didn't pick them for TIP
If everything you say is true, I think it is very wrong that top 3 Suzie never starts. The top players should start the majority of games in my opinion. Why wouldn't you want to start a game with your best? I do think it's nice to occasionally reward other players who work hard in training and compete with a start, but every team my daughter has been on had a pretty regular starting lineup.
12:46, after some thought I agree with the post about having to develop ALL the girls not just the first 11, we as a team need to have very little drop-off if we are going to compete with the region’s best. We are a top club, whether you believe it or not, our name demands respect, whether you believe it or not, just ask your kids coach. Other teams prepare to play us, and want to beat us really bad, which is the highest compliment, but I am getting off topic here, errr.P.S. Why is knowing where she plays so important?
Not downplaying the tip program. Just commenting about earlier post stating top 3 from each team is on tip or odp. Just telling how it waz decided on some teams. Lets not even get started with the money maker of odp. And yes my daughter did not make tip. Is she top 3? Probably not but close. Is she better than the 3 from our team on tip, yes
1:04 I empathize, I do, its tough when you see greatness, but others don’t, stay the course, and believe in your daughters potential, she is young, and can improve, and if its strictly a political situation, I suggest you find another club dude. It will eat you up from inside out, I know.
Lol Our name commands respect...oh brother..guessing that's what the daughter says huh and not the parents...
Just a quick comment on starters vs bench players. If your kid plays on a top team all the players are starters - but a coach can only start 11, any one of the 18 can start - the team never drops a step. when a sub move is made. That's what makes the top teams so special. Training is always at game speed going against the best.If your kid doesn't play for a top team and there is a drop off of talent then yes, the 11 best should play a majority of the game also giving players 12-18 some minutes to play and develop. Practices is when playing time should be earned regardless of who the coach is.#2
My kid is proud to wear her team colors to school, to the mall, to wherever she goes, and wherever she goes she represents her team and club. Its a tough team to get selected for, we turned away many girls, and we still do, it is what it is, its simply true.As far as demanding respect, I do not look for that from other parents, they are too busy being envious, and negative, I see it in the other teams coaches, and I have read about it on this blog. So, there.
Thanks #2, spot-on!
1:07 I appreciate the empathy, but I believe we are on the same club and your daughter is one that made the tip program. Very clearly not a top 3 player on our team. Everything will balance outafter we leave the daddy or mommy ball. If im mistaken i apologize
@104....be careful, not many teams put 3 girls on TIP squad, then to call out coach and kiss a** parents, won't take much for coach/parents to figure you out
Actually, my daughter is the only u12 girl from our town that plays for this team. Most girls, and the parents who have daughters, have no idea who we are, where we play, or the amount of work needed to compete at this level, but the boys do, and when they see her with her team warm-up on, they say “Step aside, and let the girl go through”...
1:17, we are not on the same club, but we could be, its the point of my question, we are ALL in the same situation occasionally, its nice to get differing input, even from assholes. Its the thought that counts, right?
Holy Crap we have Alex Morgan's father posing here now?
@1:22 LOVE that post, true that!
Is that Captain Morgan’s daughter, if so, I’ll have another ; )
There are some beauties out thereThe stuff some of these parents say is amazingWears her colors to the mallMake it sound like a gang not a soccer teamGod help these girls when they get older, for their sake I hope they still love the game and play for themselves
1128 tip hater, using the info you posted, your daughter is prob not top 3 on team but close....so let's say 4 or 5. You said 3 girls from her team made tip, but your daughter is better than them. Then your "top" team had players ranked 6-9 make tip because they are coaches favorites? Sounds fishy.....team: star 1, star 2, star 3,your daughter 4 or 5, then favoite 1, favorite 2, favorite 3.
You’ve been watching the news too much, go back to bed.
Its an expression, she is proud to be on the team, what are you failing to grasp?
My daughter is a starting player, who never sits, score all the goals, saves all the shots, and plays for the United States U12 National team, better?
the updated pre-season indoor soccer rankings are out.
November 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM Who Cares?
1128 was your daughter selected to tryout for tip and just not make it? Or was she not selected at all?
PDA STORM earns the triple#1 outdoor U12#1 indoor#1 beach soccer
Don’t forget LaCrosse, they’re 31 at that, too!
#1, not 31, doh!
Of course the secret is that they dont play any events
Where is the rankings list, would like to see it...
Enough Soccer talk- the season is over. Where can I find the basketball blog????
Soccer never ends, and if you think it does, you should stay with basketball, full time.
I agree - Soccer never ends and it shouldn't for the kids that like the sport and are ONE sport athletes. The only thing that changes is that they play small sided again for a few months working on passing in tight spaces.A few more tournaments in November to shape the GS rankings. Look I'm the first one who will tell you they mean nothing at u12. But they are fun to look at for me, and it would be crazy not to have fun with them like we do with College ball, and pro sports. Yes they are kids playing, but we are not and blaming them for what's wrong with Youth soccer is as crazy as blaming video games for what's wrong with our youth today.#2
Like many teams in this situation, we have several girls who want to play other sports over the winter, mostly basketball, so they are not participating in team recommended programs. Will these girls be a liability to us when the spring season starts? I think it might be the case, especially when some of the top pre-spring tournaments come along, guess its just the nature of the game at this age. The girls who are truly committed to soccer will rise, and the others won’t. It will be rough at U13 tryouts, very rough.
at this age I think athleticism still trumps skill. A good multi-sport athletic player is still going to be strong on the field if she plays basketball during the winter. Naturally, a weaker not as althetic player who is not improving her skills over the winter isn't going to be helpful to your team come spring time.
I can see your point, but there is one girl who needs to improve her foot-skills, not her jump-shot! Nothing I can do about it, nor would I. Perhaps she does not look at soccer as the end-all, as my daughter does, she is a one sport player, and plays that sport pretty well, IMAO.
Fall season has come to an end. See everyone in Spring.
Parents on this blog, relax and stop giving out bad advice. If you ask any USWNT player they will unanimously tell your daughters to TAKE TIME OFF FROM SOCCER. They are almost all multi sport athletes and have strong opinions on the subject. High school girls on teams ranked top 5 in country also play multiple sports. Over the winter the girls need to take a minimum of 1 month with no soccer (now is a good time), then maybe play some futsal over winter with no outdoor training and don't overload them with all the private training that costs a fortune anyway (PDA parents you are obsessed with private overtraining). Otherwise your spring will be spent nursing overuse injuries and mentally burned out kids. But hey it's your choice.
Interesting clip I found, is this a foul, or not?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elCoJPH2ovI
Not a fan of the one sport athlete at this age. We should not be making 11 year olds choose - what if they are a great soccer player but also happen to be an excellent 2nd sport or third sport athlete? Now they are pressured to choose their 'favorite?' Psh! Agree with post 9:26 - athleticism trumps skill here. You can teach ball skill but you cant teach height, quickness, determination, sport IQ etc. Stop worrying about the basketball player not being ready for spring. Chances are they are still winter training with the team anyhow while playing their second sport.
Totally agree with posting 1102 We should not pressure our child with playing one sport. Training from one sport can help the child be a better player in the other sport. Basketball skills can help with footwork and quickness that translates to soccer. Strength training in basketball shooting can help with baseball hitting. These children are too young right now to urge them to be a one sport athlete. They may even get burned out if forced to play that one sport.
That's hard to watch. Glad I am not a ref. Looks like a good tackle. She went in and targeted the ball, with her feet down, however, she took out the opposing player at the legs with her body. I don't know that I would have called a foul there, but I wouldn't be shocked to see a ref call one in that case.
Yeah, the girl in white came down hard on her shoulder, she might of had the wind knocked out too, yikes. Its a tough call, just don’t see that kind of aggression much, it happens, but its rough. Hope that girl in white was okay.
11:29 no pressure - it's called a choice. If your kid want's to play basketball that's okay - but the team should be allowed to look for someone who wants to play Soccer only. Both need to make hard choices. Goes both ways.#2
Just a quick follow up.It's simple a soccer club plays all year - and wants it's teams playing all year. If a player wants to do that they tryout for the team, done.If a player wants to juggle more than one sport they don't tryout for the team.All I keep reading about is forcing a child to pick a sport - How about the girls on the team that don't want to play another sport - do they have a choice? or are they forced into something they didn't sign up for?#2
#2, what do you think of the Youtube clip, foul?
We have filters at work, sorry can't view it.#2
How about the girls who play club soccer, never miss a game or practice, but also play basketball. Should they be replaced just because they like another sport too? Often these are the girls who are the better all round athletes that would probably excel at any sport they tried. Our club lost a couple of really great soccer players this year (we're U13 now) who also were great basketball players. This year the club wanted these girls to play only soccer....guess what, they moved to another soccer club that was more tolerant and continue to play basketball. It was a great loss to our team and now we're playing against them, not with them.
Good, you’re better off without them, that this level soccer should be your major sport, if not only sport, if you want to play multiple sports go back to AYSO, and remember to have fun!
you're a sport racist
11:01, it's a foul and a yellow card; easy decision for a competent referee (is there such thing?). It doesn't matter if she got the ball. The laws of the game state that: "“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned"That was certainly reckless.
3:01, I completely agree, it was reckless, and she could of broken that girls shoulder, this isn’t High School Soccer, the other girl did not know how to land, or how to avoid that challenge, ugh.2:41, shut-up, and sit down.
you shut up
I'm with you 1:53. There's no problem with a kid who only wants to play one sport - how is the multi sport kid hurting her? You're assuming that the multisport kid isn't as committed to her soccer club or isn't as talented in soccer as the one sport. I call BS. I would encourage all kids to play multiple sports.I would no sooner let my child play a single sport as an 11 year old than I would allow her to sit on the sofa and play no sports at all. You will be amazed at what kids pick up in other sports that they apply to soccer - passing to space, spreading the field, off ball movement. Not to mention conditioning, strength and agility. Oh wait - you could always dole out money and sign your kid up to one of those speed and agility clinics and achieve the same thing! Frankly I'd love my kid to decide that she wanted to focus on basketball...it's cheaper!
@ I’m with you 1:53. Please stop writing to yourself, its embarrassing.
If the multiple sport athletes can keep up with the single sport athlete who is trying to refine her technique and first touch during the off season then so be it. Some are able to play another sport and refine technique during the winter months. However, at the highest level there are multiple sport athletes that are trying to keep up by using their athletic ability and aggressiveness while not paying attention to technique and first touch to begin to prepare to play at the highest levels later on down the road.They will often miss practice during the winter to play basketball or what ever because a game or basketball practice falls on practice night. The parents rationale these missed practices by saying that we are not in season so what's the difference. Sometimes you may have half your starting line-up missing various practices... now i ask you, how is this fair to the team or the coach. I don't blame the kids, I blame the club! You will never ever be able to keep the players who have chosen this sport as their priority in or out of season. If their talent matches their commitment level, they will eventually seek like minded players and this becomes the highest level of play.. Don't get me wrong, you can Indeed play multiple sports, even if you have chosen soccer as the sport you want to pursue. You just have to fit the other sport around soccer. The club can deny it if you want but be prepared to say good by to those committed players that decided that they rather show up to practice even if the practice is optional for the winter.This is what usually happens to high teams, that allow their players to miss practice during the off season for other sport commitments.
4:04 I'm with you about sitting on a sofa. I don't have an issue with multiple sport players - I have an issue when that other sport gets in the way. I'm not talking Town team, where kids play soccer Fall and Spring only. I'm talking about the high level clubs that expect soccer to be the primary sport for the kids that play on those teams.If the kids work their schedule around the soccer schedule great - if they don't then soccer is the secondary sport and they shouldn't be on a team with kids that have already picked soccer as their primary sport. We are talking about 11 year old kids and they took spots away from kids that want soccer to be their primary sport.Parents pay that kind of money so there child can play year round with kids of like mind - not drive a half hour to an hour to practice and then find out 1/4 or 1/2 of the team is missing because they play Basketball. This does not happen at my kid's team and if it did - I would look for another - I don't expect any kid to make a choice at this age - but my child wants soccer and it's my job to make sure she is in the right place with only kids that want soccer.
Yes my grammar stink!!
Thank you 9:31, and 6:44, yesterday I was labeled a sport racist for advocating just such a position, can you believe that, you ever called me that is a loser!
Sticking to the 8v8 option first - it looks like when teams register for EDP they can pick a CJYSA option - two leagues - and if a team plays a team in both leagues the result counts twice instead of playing them twice. This is why WCUSC PREDATORS'01G got he below points.3,058 for EDP 1st1,730 for CJYSA 1stEDP LEAGUE 2013/2014 1: WEST CHESTER UNITED SC WCUSC PREDATORS'01G (PAE2: SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)3: KOSMOS FC NIKH (NYE4: NEW JERSEY DYNAMO NJD '01 MORGAN BLUE (NJ)5: RAGE FC PREMIER LIBERTY (NJ)6: NASA UNITED U12 GIRLS (NJCJYSA LEAGUE FALL 2013 1: WEST CHESTER UNITED SC WCUSC PREDATORS'01G (PAE)2: FUTURE MONARCHS BLACK (MD)3: NEW JERSEY DYNAMO NJD '01 MORGAN (NJ)4: NASA UNITED U12 GIRLS (NJ)
I guess once they include the PDA win over SJEB they would claim 1st in CJYSA. SO it looks like teams only get the GS points if they register for both leagues.PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 3,088 for 1st in EDP1,368 for 4th in CJYSAEDP LEAGUE 2013/2014 1: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)2: NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS (NJ)3: HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ)4: NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL (NJ)5: SJEB '01 (NJ)6: EAST BRUNSWICK SC LIGHTNING (NJ)7: FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ8: WWPSA SPURS (NJCJYSA LEAGUE FALL 2013 1: NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS (NJ)2: NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL (NJ)3: HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ)4: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)5: FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)6: SJEB '01 (NJ)
7:32 I think who ever called you that was saying it in fun.
Is it that difficult to figure out, that the teams needed a njys league to use their njys cards so they could play in the state cup. Wildcats pda njx, force. So their edp games counted twice 1 for edp and 2 for cjysl. Thats it. Simple. Win win. Get the state cup and double the Gs points and only play half the games. Get double league bonus points for each win as well. Which that really screws with the so called rankings. Only in nj
7:45, I hope so, but I doubt it, it seemed heartfelt to me, a true expression of anonymous courage, loser.
What do these women have in common: Mia Hamm, Christie Rampone, Abby Wambach, Megan Rapinoe, Alex Morgan, Jill Loyden, Heather O'Reilly....I could go on...All played basketball and/or other sports through High School.
7:56 not sure how i look at this - not just NJ teams - the PA team and the FUTURE MONARCHS BLACK Maryland team did it as well. It's how you register. It's actually genius. Yes if you play a team in both you get win win 60 points instead of 30. But look at it this way all those teams that select the option get a ton of GS points to bring with them in any tournament they play in plus State Cups. So if they play a team that's actually better - that then racks up a ton of points for beating this team head to head and winning flights with these teams in them.EDP LEAGUE 2013/2014 G12 11v11 1st Division South 7th 0 points CJYSA LEAGUE FALL 2013 G12 CJYSA zMax3 8v8 2nd 1,289 points
8:08 Do you think those girls would be more technical if they played only soccer? They would still be athletic, that you can't take away. What's been the knock on our girl's program while the best in the world? We are just faster and stronger than the rest of the world we are not more technical - i guess you just showed me why. Thanks.#2
PS when the rest of the world catches up, and they will see Germany, France, Japan & a few others - what do you think the USSF will do? Lets see on the boys side the Academy teams train 5 days a week and can't play HS ball because our boys did the same thing and the rest of the world was so far ahead of our great multiple sport soccer athletes.Now on the boys side they play soccer and train soccer only and guess what you see a big difference in how the NT plays.This will happen on the girls side as well - the multiple sport athletes will continue playing multiple sports but will not advance to national player pools anymore because they will just not be able to play soccer with the soccer only athletic girls down the road.But that's just my opinion#2
#2 you are probably right about that. Things are definitely changing as I really don't think it's possible for a multi-sport athlete to advance as far anymore. The problem is I think this will weaken, not strengthen our ability to compete on the international stage. In most other parts of the world, soccer is THE main sport for girls, while here in the US we have so many more options. Sure, we can get more technical, but will be be getting lesser athletes with more technique as the true athletes are now spread out among a multiple of sports? Will our concentration on just soccer be enough for our technique to surpass other countries? Or will we lose our edge because our technique is on par with the rest of the world but the advantage we used to have in athleticism is now gone?I just know from a small sample of athletic girls in our town, most of the "fastest, strongest" girls have left soccer and have turned to lacrosse....another sport that is beginning to require a year round commitment. This is where the college money is in NJ if that's what you're looking for.
8:41 I disagree with soccer being the MAIN sport in other countries - just because Volleyball and Team Handball and Field Hockey are not big sports in the states don't make the assumption that those sports in addition to basketball are not big in other countries. We play Baseball, Lacrosse and Football in the states the rest of the world besides Latin America when it comes to baseball doesn't hold these sports to the same regard as we do. I don't think we will ever lose our edge - our Country is HUGE and we have a player pool most countries can only dream of. I think in general most parents will shift their kids around from sport to sport looking to save on some college money - and if they have athletic kids that can play multiple sports - more power to them.I'm not talking about these kids or these parents. There are kids and parents that have made their choice on the sport they want to play - these very athletic kids will be given training that will put them on par with the rest of the world and because our player poll is so vast we will always have an edge.Again just my opinion#2
8:41 - I do agree with what you said about our little corner of the US about "most of the fastest, strongest" girls leaving soccer probably happens all over the place but i can't speak on that. But it's the girls that haven't left that will have a chance to put on the red white and blue kit.#2
Good debate, glad I started it...1.5 Out!
Good job 1.5#2
Even though I was called a sports racist, its all good, I think debate is important, even with idiots!P.S. Really nike your points, they are spot-on!1.5
nike, hehehe, I mean like...
#2, since you seem to be an informed parent, let me ask you a question. When you go to your daughters games, and there is an obvious moronic parent yelling inappropriate stuff at his own team, do you say something to him?We had a situation like that, this guy seemed drunk, and was yelling at his kids team, we were all shocked, and collectively began oust shouting this guy, with good job, great pass, and kept it up. After a while, she just went back to his truck, but that fact that one of these girls was related to him was depressing, and really spoiled an otherwise great game.
"hat do you think of the Youtube clip, foul?"Definitely, direct kick.Even "if" she made contact with the ball first, it was still excessive.
Coach, I agree, do you think she should of gotten a yellow card for that? I have seen cards for less.
9:51 not unless I want to dance.I see lots of things I don't like - but I keep my mouth shut, watch an try to support my daughter and her team win or lose. Sometimes I want to yank my hair when they don't play like they should - but they would never know that unless they asked for my opinion on how they played. #2
Haha, strong silent type, eh?Yes, I usually just watch and applaud when applicable, but this one time was ridiculous, we still talk about it moths later, hope we never see that team again, was at a tournament.1.5
Regarding multi sports athletes, read this article:http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_24024640/los-altos-soccer-phenom-is-first-american-player.In another recounting of this same story, the parents credit playing PG for AAU basketball with the lads' field vision. Real Madrid, not too shabby for a 3 sport athlete.
10:43 Good for him - I'm sure Messi played Basketball as well - I guess he turned okay playing just soccer. Goes both ways.Anyone know anything about the EDP Festival 2013 for U11-U18 Boys & Girls @ Holmdel NJ, (12/7/2013 - 12/8/2013) looks like the Application Fee is only $75. Is this open for all teams or only EDP teams - nice way to close out the season.
Player A2008 U20 10 (GP) (5 Goals)2010 NT 70 (GP) (44 Goals)Player B (2 years younger)2006–2008 U17 25 (GP) (15 goals)2009 U19 5 (GP) (0 goals)2009 U20 9 (GP) (14 goals)2010 NT 37 (GP) (20 goals)Player A Played other sports - going by previous post.Played a total of 80 international games and scored 49 goals.Player B - played just one sport and is 2 years younger.Played a total of 76 international games and scored 49 goals.What does this show - yes the multiple sport player can have the same success at the international game as the one sport player.So who's the better striker?Alexandra Patricia Morgan (1989)orAlexandra Popp (1991)
I think it's safe to say both our u20 and NT will qualify for Canada.But what is a little more alarming is that u17 NT did not qualify for the next u17 World Cup. I never dreamed a time would come that we wouldn't get out of CONCACAF to qualify for an international event on the girls side.Do you think our Multiple Sport Athletes are hurting us? Do you think the rest of the world is catching up on the Girls side?or Have they passed us at the youth level?Qualifiers from CONCACAFu17 FIFA World CupCosta Rica (CRC) - HostCanada (CAN)Mexico (MEX)
We are talking about the multi sport athlete and comparing Olympic caliber players but obviously, the successful multi sport player and the uber successful Olympic soccer player are not the norm. Fun to talk about though. When the following article was first printed in USA Today, my family was fascinated by this four sport collegiate player. She's not a normal, run of the mill type kid, but her story is inspiring (at least to my kids). Not every kid can handle playing multiple sports at a high level, but for those that can I say, keep on doing what you do.http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/05/28/university-of-oregon-ducks-multisport-athlete-liz-brenner/2367509/
11:58 - the push to have kids focus on one sport year round is what's hurting our national teams. In the era of Mia Hamm, Julie Foudy, etc., no kid played soccer exclusively until the collegiate level. Now it's become an expectation for greatness. Somehow, the only way to be great at the international level is to focus on soccer only from age 5 on? How's that working out for us?
One more question.While our multiple sport athletes are playing Basketball and other sports.The rest of the world is playing more girls soccer. On top of that How many girls do you think will take their one sport training and play for another Country kind of like what the boys do with Baseball?So yes, 8:08 you can post all those names - but if we don't change we will be left behind like we were at u17 This year.But that's the international game - who cares, right? This is a u12 board.
12:17 not fair - In the Days of Mia Hamm there were only like 8 countries playing Womens Soccer - Now the entire World plays. We can continue thinking what you said - but reality is - a lot more kids are playing this game now.12:14 I wasn't the one who started with the international game by name dropping the USWNT. But to be fair you have to compare apples to apples.One more thing 12:17 how did your approach work for the Boys? Oh yeah the rest of the world laugh at us and continue making fun of the MLS (but this is changing by forcing athletes to pick one sport). We need to be careful because we are setting ourselves up - if you don't travel or you don't have friends who are from another part of the world you have no idea what I'm talking about nor do you care - I get it.
how did the conversation on 11 year old multi sport athletes morph into what's best for the national teams? How about what's best for your kid? Statistically speaking, our kids are much more liable to serve our country in a military capacity than to serve on the soccer field. Just being realistic..
Because this is where the the future of the USWNT begins...
12:38, you’re not being realistic, you being negative, perhaps the Youth Basketball Forum is more your speed?Just being realistic..
12:38 since we are being real - Conversation is about multiple sport vs one sport. Both sides like to see it the way they like -it's simple. But when a poster started dropping USWNT players then let's be real about the state of our Girls soccer program and as 12:56 said because the future of USWNT begins on a u12 board somewhere in the US for some parent - since we are being real.
"Coach, I agree, do you think she should of gotten a yellow card for that? I have seen cards for less." I have also.If it was the first time she was whistled, then no. At that age I'd explain she needs to play the ball. If she repeated that type of play, then yellow it is.
Thanks coach, An additional question, if I might, what if the girl retaliated against offender, would she receive a caution, or would you go straight to yellow, or even red?
P.S. Have you ever seen both benches warned, similar to what happens in baseball, that ever happen to you?
What if the injured player's coach runs on the field yelling at the other player?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=701dduDMkb4I love the effort the Crush people put forth, its admirable, it truly is, but the mom-narration is classic, please go to the 48:00 minute mark, and note the weather update as an added bonus, Go Crush.No offense to the Orange gang, its just funny.
hahahaha, classic, pure magic!
@2:37 Thank you, that provided some levity!@2:19 A coach should never yell at an opposing player, or run onto the playing field, unless summoned by the referee for a serious injury.1.5 Out
First I am jealous of the NorCal NPL - wish our NPLs treated their league/clubs and players with as much love. They have a goal scorer leader board for Boys and Girls.From the NPL website - "For the first time, clubs from the Washington Premier League and the Oregon Premier League are invited to participate. The NorCal NPL Fall College Showcase features a field of U-15, U-16, U-17 and U-19 boys and girls teams."Do you think - our three NPLS (EDP, NYCSL, NE Girls) will ever put something like this together. There are 40 clubs in the 3 NPLs - it would be nice to see 8 mini-events hosted by 8 different clubs each with 5 of the NPL teams played over a weekend with the winners of the 8 mini-events qualifying for our own Showcase event for all ages - 2 Groups of 4 teams each to crown a Northeast/Mid-Atlantic NPL ChampionI know - kind of went away from what we've been talking about and it excludes the non-NPL teams. Sorry.#2
Okay the play by play on that video is effing spectacular! "Hopefully we go home with a victory so we can celebrate with a cocktail!""sometimes in soccer they don't allow enough pushing" lol
NJX plays 3 EDP games against good comp and goes 0-2-1. They win none of the better tournaments this fall but because they won the STA tournament they get 8000 points for beating SDFC 6-0 in the finals? That's the #1 team in NJ?This age group has leveled off and it's not clear if NJX has receded to the levels of Wildcats, Force and the PDA B team or if those teams got a lot better...but NJX better enjoy the view from the #1 spot because it's a sand castle at best. Where is MF in this? Can they halt the NJX slide? Who's running the show?
That was one of the all-time greatest comments, ever. Actually, the run ________, run, remark was laugh-out-loud funny, can empathize, completely.
Agreed, their record does not speak to a GS Diamond designation, they are a premier team, not a Diamond.
hahaha at one point the crush player purposely hand blocked a ball going into the goal, hahaha, it was an offside, but the girl was not aware, and the woman speaking says good for bopping it out, really, haha,FYI, that is a PK, and a red card to the girl
Seriously though the lady commentating is funny and not negative at all. I would have a celebratory cocktail with her any day!
”Run like the wind...”
Njx is a ship without a captain.
I don't know about that.....but I do notice they haven't really beaten a top team since the win v Crush
MatchFit Brass did meet with NJX parents a couple of weeks ago.Asked that teams stay separate for another full year after the end of this spring season. Then at U14 NJX players will be allowed to try out for MatchFit ECNL team.Question is won't anyone from any team be able to try out for ECNL team at U14. What exactly is the advantage of staying at NJX for another year.More $$$ for club, trainers and coaches with 3 teams for another year? Why aren't NJX players allowed to try out for MatchFit top team this spring for U13 year? Funny thing is many of our parents bought this sales pitch.
I don't understand, what exactly is the relationship between NJX and Match Fit, are they one club? If not, they are asking a lot from the NJX parents, a lot.
How do you know many of the parents bought it???
Quick question. Are Summit, Montclair, and Berkley kids allowed to try out for Match Fit ECNL team at u13? These clubs also are affiliates of Match Fit. Seems to me that u13 and u14 will be two different teams. Also does anyone know where training will be? If in Hazlet no way that Jefferson parents are driving 1.75-2.25 hrs to training.
MatchFit Brass did meet with NJX parents a couple of weeks ago.Asked that teams stay separate for another full year after the end of this spring season. Then at U14 NJX players will be allowed to try out for MatchFit ECNL team.Question is won't anyone from any team be able to try out for ECNL team at U14. What exactly is the advantage of staying at NJX for another year.More $$$ for club, trainers and coaches with 3 teams for another year? Why aren't NJX players allowed to try out for MatchFit top team this spring for U13 year? Funny thing is many of our parents bought this sales pitch."This just silly, The ECNL teams are forming at u13. At u13 the ECNL teams will follow the u14 schedule. This is a time when the coaches can see what other piece they may need to solidify their time. key word here is other piece. They are not going to make wholesale changes at this point, This will limit opportunities for those good players looking to change at this point. The ECNL team will only be looking for individual spots! What is NJX going to do-watch the Matchfit team play an ecnl schedule at u13, while they play an NPL schedule?NJX parents, do not buy what they are selling. If you have plans for your daughter to play ecnl then try-out at u13. Do not wait. If Match fit will not let you try-out at u13 then seek another ECNL team.This is not being done for your benefit. It is being done for the benefit of Matchfit.Remember at u13- Matchfit will already be playing an ecnl schedule!
I have no ties to either team. I would tend to believe that your kid can try out for the ECNL if you desire to do so.As an outsider, looks like a very good option for team to come in and keep team together and maybe add a few players in just in case you lose a player or players to U13 ECNL team.
I don't care how good the NJX Stallions team is, keeping the entire team together is simply not a proper competitive-team-building procedure. ALL premier elite teams need to shed, and acquire, thus is just part of the team dynamic, not all players can compete, its brutal, but necessary.If I were a NJX parent, I would see what else is available for my kid, and go to several tryouts, unless its a proximity issue, then its a problem.
NJX parents: how far are you from Hazlet? Jefferson is 2hrs. away. So those kids from Jefferson are not playing ECNl if training is in Hazlet.
8:05, you really expect them to reply?
I'm beginning to think there will be very very few players from Jefferson or NJX on Match Fit u13 ECNL team if training is in Hazlet????
Just wait Match Fleece will try to sell parents on all kinds of things within the next year or two...basically they will be saying " show me the money"
I guess MF will be training in Hazlet and some parents are trying to scare the club into changing the location? or some Genius from another club is trying to scare parents into leaving MF to join their club?
When you listen to everyone, you listen to no one. When you have no real plan, you fail to serve anyone. NJX seems to be pulling itself in several directions. Maybe listening to too many voices. Do a deal with MF (that has shown little to date). Move to a MF coach at U13 but not be in MF's top division. Keep the team together for one more year. Who is this, the Beatles? When it's over, it's over. This should never be the objective for a high level team and if you have to create some contrived environment to keep a team together, your team is dead. The players who want to be elite/advanced need to get with the best and toughest teammates and play the toughest schedule (the NJX schedule this past season was dreadful; they need to get with the best and non-biased, non-parent coached or influenced teams; they need to see if they have what it takes right now. The players who know that they are not "that" need to step off and play level appropriate. If the team wants to stay together because everyone is friends, I share this: No such team exists where you think everyone is friends and all parents have the greater good of all of the players in mind. And knowing that and knowing that the team at U14 will break up, makes U13 a lame duck season. Very hard to come focused to training and matches while at the same time all of these parents are looking for the next home while motioning through the U13 campaign. It's done. Move on.MF has a right to take the money. It's their business. NJX has a right and responsibility to think and decide. It appears that they are allowing MF to do it for them. So what is the end result? A U13 NJX farewell tour? "And now, the Beatles!" "Oh yeah I, tell you something, I think you'll understand..."
Guess they really, “want to hold you hand”...haha
No such team exists where you think everyone is friends and all parents have the greater good of all of the players in mind. And knowing that and knowing that the team at U14 will break up, makes U13 a lame duck season. Very hard to come focused to training and matches while at the same time all of these parents are looking for the next home while motioning through the U13 campaign. It's done. Move on."The above statement is as real as it gets!Do your self a favor -ask the Match fit coach if they will be playing an ECNL schedule at u13.That should tell you everything you need to know. The ECNL teams are forming. If you are player 1-3 on your team, you will probably have some time to choose. If you are player 4-8 then the window for joining an ECNL team will start to close down after u13. Even player 1-3 will have a tougher time depending on their position played.You think Matchfit is doing this for the benefit of your girls or for the benefit of MatchFit.Try-out at u13 at match fit or at another ECNL club if ECNL is what you desire for your daughter.
If Match fit discourages these NJX players from trying out at u13-then I cant see this team hanging on through u14.Survival mode will take hold and these girls will Jump ship as to not be the last one standing.You really think they are going to wait until u14 so that maybe their daughter gets chosen for the ECNL team.
Ridiculous, no one should wait on that, no guarantees that your kid will make the U14 team, its laughable.
Girls will start to leave in the Spring.
Love the jealousy.....MF is a good option to have and NE NPL is better option than non academy league options. Then girls can all figure out if they want to try out for ECNL team or stay the NE NPL course at U14. All this time the MF coaches are evaluating ALL the talent at that age level. Sneak peak never hurts.....Good to have options people.
If Match Fit north Jefferson, is NPL team because they are not commuting 2hrs. to train than who is on the ECNL team in Hazlet? 18 players from where?
Since that team was already in the MF system I would assume they would be the pre ECNL team. They don't have to train out of Hazlet. They just all need to play their games out of the same facility..... Pre ECNL or NE NPL are same thing basically. U14 it will change.
The weather this Sunday is going to be brutal, don’t feel good about sending my daughter out there, any advice for keeping warm, besides under-armor, and secret methods, can we build a camp-fire?
This year u13 trains in Hazlet. Is Match Fleece going to change facility for every u13 team. If north team is ECNL team at u13 are they than commuting 2hrs. to Hazlet at u14. Probably not. Than at u14 you have a whole new team. Let the fleecing begin.
You are missing the point.At U14 they will take the best kids out of that entire age group plus new kids trying out. So the ECNL U14 team will change regardless.
Fleecing. None of the pre ecnl will be on u14 even if they have top 10 kids because they are not commuting. So it won't be best kids on u14.
Plenty of talent in the area for a U14 ECNL team if people do not want to commute.....
Can Match Fit compete at u14 with ECNL teams that have been playing as a team for a few years? I think it will be a tough season.
No. There will be new girls on that team come U14.
"some Genius from another club is trying to scare parents into leaving MF to join their club?"You nailed it!
I think this notion that teams that play together for years are better than newly-created teams is out dated. If you select correctly, train intensely, and commit completely, you win have success.
Its PDA!Its them, I know it, I know it!!!!
I can tell you its most likely the person running JAGS for this age group for most of comments about MF.MF has ECNL teams up North now.People have no clue
I heard that TSF is going to forfeit their game on Sunday because of possible inclement weather, and freezing temps., any truth?
This story is getting tired. Unless a parent "in the know" can say where Match Fit u13 is training it's all conjecture.
Call the director and speak to him directly. No parent will come on this board from Match Fit to address nonsense.Personally, NJX and MF would combine players would hands down be best team in state of NJ. As far as travel goes, parents will travel to play. Look at PDA & MF now, people drive 1 45 mins to practices
going to be a cold weekend for soccer. I don't envy anyone playing this weekend.
11:23 Where did you hear that from?
Little bird told me...
Match Fit u12 team will not train out of Hazlet at U13. The Black team will be out of the north. Fact
Confirmed mf jefferson is the pre- ecnl. Why would njx allow themselves to be the b team. Only good for a select few on njx
This whole merger sounds fishy to me, get out now NJX parents, while you still can!
Again people, Pre ECNL and NE NPL are basically same thing at U13. Again, still much better option than any non academy options...... All this does is allow MF to evaluate their full talent pool this U13 year and then adjustments will be made for U14 when ECNL actually starts. Why are you making this so complicated?? Oh wait, because you do not have this same option! Stop the noise....
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