Every result I just posted was fall of U-14. Might want to do alittle better research yourself
As were the ones that I posted All PAGS vs NE Girls NPL were after 8/10/2015 check the dates pal. - So you are saying the Jefferson Cup tournament is nothing more than a Spring training event like Spirit and Stars are in the fall correct? or only the events you pick don't count.6:14 you are 100% correct the girls know of this board and THEY POST - this is FACT.
No the PF NPL vs LDC game was 8/1 at West Chester's summer tournament. And yes YMS(PAGS #4) and PF NPL(NE NPL #7) each won one game against each other by one goal. PF early in the season at Spirit, YMS later at Bethesda. Both teams finished just above mid level in their respective leagues. Like I said, neither league all that good. Difference is those playing PAGS seem to know it and are moving on, those playing NE NPL seem to think it's just a half notch below ECNL. I also saw HMMS(PAGS #5) tied MF NPL(NE NPL #2) and Warrington tied both the game they played against NE NPL teams this fall as well. Like I said, evenly matched leagues with PAGS getting the slight edge.
Not referring to your posts 6:42 but PL parent continues to go back to U13 year and use results to make flighting argument.
All current year U14 results should be considered. and judgement should be based on comparison of full body of work at U14. No one is arguing that point.
8:24First no one is posting results from U-12. But if you think the tournament committee isn't looking back a year, you would be wrong. Last years Jeff Cup results, spring majors and leagues, all relevant. Now obviously more weight should be given to more resent results. But you act like every team starts new each fall. Most teams are 80-90% the same as last year and I have seen very few results this fall that surprised me based on the teams results from last spring. Maybe your team had a terrible year last year and you would like to forget it happened but those games are still part of their "body of work" that is being considered for flighting.
Blog vote:All for PL parents getting a life off this blog...Im just kidding how else would we get to the 5000 comment mark each week forcing a blog break?
Blog vote:Get NJ people off of hereJust kidding
US training center question. I know that a coach has to recommend a player for a NTC and then it's in the hands of the national coaches to keep inviting a player back or not but I know of players who have been in it for a long time (1 and even 2 years now) and some who were only there a couple of months. What exactly are the national coaches looking for with a player at these?
And with respect to training centers, there are many very, very good players who have never been invited, and there are some very, very good teams who have never had a player invited. From my observations, an invitation is more about who you know then it is about what you can do. The system has its biases.
How would anybody know, would be surprised if the coaches knew. If I were to guess, I would say these attributes for the various positions:GK: Quickness, Height, second effort, and game awareness.DEF: Toughness, courage, speed and game awareness.MID: Quick decision making, great foot skills and game awareness.FD: Speed, toughness, and game awareness.As you can see, I am big on game awareness, lots of girls can only see 10 yards around them, and when the ball is out of this zone, they are ball-watching...
Most importantly Technical ability, Speed of play, and Soccer IQ.
7:32 U14 starts 8/1/2015, so now we don't count U14 games either, So any games played prior to labor day don't count? I'll play your little game. You say "Both teams (YMS & PL NPL) finished just above mid level in their respective leagues, you also saw HMMS tie the #2 MF NPL, I guess the #2 EDP South D1 1776 team is the same as MF NPL and HMMS. You bring up Warrington but fail to mention they tied the #12 NorthEastNPL team twice and YES this #12 team that also tied Jersey Shore Boca and PF NPL which makes NorthEast girls NPL super deep doesn't it?I can give you pros and cons to any league by using results. YMS11/15/2015 4:3 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)8/22/2015 0:1 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)PAC8/22/2015 3:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)LDC UNITED8/2/2015 0:1 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)8/22/2015 1:0 FC BUCKS SHOCKERS (PAE)Warrington11/29/2015 1;1 DEEP RUN FC BUCKS SHOCKERS (USA)8/22/2015 2:2 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)8/2/2015 1:1 DEEP RUN FC BUCKS SHOCKERS (USA)HMMS11/14/2015 1:1 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 (NJ)10/11/2015 2;2 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)8/1/2015 1:1 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)PF NPLSun Sep 13 2:4 PDA South 01 NPLSun Sep 20 1:3 Match Fit Academy 01 NPLSun Sep 27 0:3 PDA North 01 NPLNov 7 2:2 FC Bucks 01 NPL
My daughters team got the worst seeding possible at Jeff Cup, but you don’t see me complaining about it...P.S. And NO this does not count as complaining, smart-ass
They do not look at a player coming in to a training center with regards to a certain position unless your a goalie. A player needs to consistently perform at a high level while surrounded by other high level players. Id agree with technical ability and speed of play being crucial. There are plenty of players who initially get there with a coaches recommendation who should not be there which is a shame because it doesn't take these national coaches long to identify those players.
How about coming with signature names for post? If you want to be honest and not hide behind "anonymous" just say which team parent you are, if not, come up with something...LVU mom
Something about LVU and the word Mom that both attracts and repels me, its a strange set of random letters, hahaha, is it me? No offense lady, but in the NY/NJ area, we don’t sign anything, its called being a blog-coward, and we are legion....
Haha 9:15, I was thinking the same thing and the word picture is not pretty!!Another PA team fat dad with a loud mouth
Where are the bracket listings for Jeff cup? I just see accepted teams. Thanks
besides LUV Mom, the reason the blog is anon, is because people speak more freely in that type of environment, you get the true nature effect. There is also the fact, that you may in fact be a dude, saying you are a LUV Mom, which is even worse, just leave the signature for the credit card bills you are incurring with this magical experience you are having.And look, you didn’t even know you were having a magical experience, which is just sad.#WeAreLegion : )
9:22, its a secret, the kind that prevents you from applying common logic to bracket seedings...still not complaining....
9:22"LUV" mom?You have mommy issues :)
Issues? Nah, just trying to be funny, did you laugh??
9:00PM Iam a jet fan and I wanted to ask if we counld count one of our wins from last year to be considered for this seasons playoffs since we only missed the Wildcard by 1 game I think Jets should have been in playoffs. After all we had at least 80% of the same players on our team.
I am not really a Jets fan, but if I had to apply that method to my kids team, I would most assurredly yes, we should count last years result. Next.
While we wait for the real flights to come out....http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=46787&Group=Girls_15
9:29Good one...you just can't spell, like most NJ/NY postersLUV mom
Thanks for the link - it was for the older group. Can you post the younger one please - I'm clueless.
The most important job of a midfielder is to win the ball and keep the ball for her team.It is the individual duels in midfield and who wins those that decide who wins the midfield and more often than not who wins the game. Combative, agressive midfield player is necessary to win those duels.
I hate when you guys post links - now the Jefferson Cup people know where the leak is and watch it be disabled in a few. Great job. I hope you enjoyed seeing the flights because they will be gone shortly. If they go you know Jefferson cup people are on this board if it stays then they are not. MSC Kickoff people are on here for sure, that's why they keep their applied list disabled (I think back a few years).Hey LVU mom what do you think about PAGS D1?
9:49 it was a joke, yes it is U1510:02 PAGS D1 was unwinnable for us so we didn't participate this timeThose teams are toughLUV your mom
U15 link. Who cares about U15?
Cool, thanks and now I will send the tournament directory a message letting him know about the open link.Right back at you.
Some of you are clueless and way too uptightStop living vicariously through your daughters
Inside take is that Jeff Cup is waiting to see if F2 teams are ok with placement before revising...
As we are now 6 months into U14 year we have plenty of results in hand for all teams to be avaluated fairly.
Hoping all the girls get participation medals
Making the playoffs in a specific league is quite different than tournament seeding. Being a jets fan I can understand how the concept of playoff qualification confused you. Youre comparing apples to oranges. But if you want a football analogy how do you think the preseason NCAA ranking are compiled? You start with last years results. How do you think Spirit and Stars do their flighting? They start with last years results. And as far as games played on 8/1 at the West Chester Summer Classic(a warm up tournament at best) I'm not saying they don't count, just that they hold very little weight. For instance PF NPL beat YMS at WC but YMS turned around and beat PF NPL a couple weeks later at a major. Which do you think is more impressive to the Jeff Cup commitee? You just have to look at the flights to see I'm right.
There’s a reason that Cracker Barrel is so popular down there....
We are placed in f5 and when we win we will post on our website that we won the prestigious Jeff cup..
Relax 10:48, I am sure they will have cool participation medals, and gas is pretty cheap these days, so go-for-it.
Thanks 10:55, the team is chartering a G6 bc we will win the Powerball . That and we can contribute to the carbon footprint by flying over your beloved NJ
Looks like PDA is in every championship flight in age group that is attending... Makes you understand why girls want to be there - but maybe not their parents.
Sorry 11:22Updated flights coming soon...word is Penn United taking PDA's place
I could care less, I have a u13 and u16. How are you guys doing at those age groups. I'm just here because our blogs have no action.
11:33Our U13 and U16 are very competitive but our U14 are doing excellent with a great coach no matter what the PU haters may say
11:33 Because this age group of U14's is the most critically impacted group due to the BYC and possibility of DA. All other age groups are just waiting to see what will happen amongst their club.
Small elite clubs like PU will most likely not follow the BYC strictly and keep the teams as is with multiple players playing up. Truth is we don't have the player pool to draw from
I have never seen them play at 13 or 16 and never heard of the club.
Their style of play is very P and U
11:57New here...Physical and Unparalleled?Never heard of them either
So we played you and beat you 11:57?
11:54 if you're not from PA, you'll be fine
Yes. We are hoping to get into the Jeff cup bottom flight. We are pending invite, hope to see you again in March.
Such lofty goals 12:13
Other than the top two flights, all others are the same.
12:32What are you talking about? Nothing will most likely change, if at all, until after convention this week
Again your analagy of how preseason tournaments are seeded which have no current year form to go on is completely innapropriate in this case. The point is Jeff Cup is a March Tournament, and there is a full fall season and 6 months of tournament results at the CURRENT U14 YEAR to use for evaluating teams current year form at U14. In this case the problems of seeding a presason tournament do not apply at all. You use preseason college basketball tournaments as an example, but in this case you would have to argue that next month when they start to seed the conference tournaments they will use last seasons Big Ten standing as a basis for seeding in addition to the current seasons final regular season finish.
12:42Early acceptances started last JulyNow where's your argument?
I think crush is pretty upset being so far down because they are number one in their league. Although they haven't done well in any tournament in last three years. GS4 life made the argument above.
8:53's daughter must be a very very good player who was never invited or was just cut very very fast.
Very interesting chats. Going back to NJ teams, Boca has beat SJEB, PDA Shore twice. TSF, HFC READY '01, Ramapo, PIPELINE BLACK, FC Copa few times. RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA, GPS. They have to be equal at the very least with the teams they beat in the last 6 months, and they are listed above. They simply fly under the radar, then when Boca plays a great team PDA North, PL, 1776 they get blown away. But with the above teams they handled pretty well with shut outs to boot. Hulmeville I think they tied. PDA shore has to start winning, and how could TSF lose to Boca. Jeff cup is chance for all of the above NJ teams to prove what worth for spring.
I thought we were talking about seeding flights, not acceptances. With 10 flights I think acceptances are a non-starter for teams on this site that are worrying about which of the top flights they are in. You are really reaching now my firend.
All teams should be F1, not fair
We will be at Manhattan. I hope someone else is dumb enough to sign up.
Good warmup for Jeff Cup or aren't you going to Jeff? 1:52
Ultimate Cup is the place to be. I hear Jeff flights will finalize after this...
Does anyone still do Futsal during the winter for this age group?
Futsal is awesomeLVU mom
I gather they had to do Manhattan early this year not to conflict with others? March 6th is so early.
Some high lights for an article I readCollege soccer has to change in order to stay relevant.Extend the season's length not in terms of games, but in terms of when and how the games are played, and how often teams are allowed to practice. From August until November, but then there'd be a spring season that goes from March until May. Training days would also increase by almost 10 percent (132 to 144), while the NCAA's liberal substitution policies would be curbed.Spreading the same number of games out over seven months instead of four would be less taxing on the players physically and, many have argued, better academically as well.It would also allow for more nuance and variety in the type of player that succeeds in the amateur ranks. While MLS has entered an era of genius No. 10s and goal-scoring wingers, the college game STILL largely emphasizes, well, being LARGE. "Look at how many of these players are the same," explained a USL coach this weekend, referring to the Combine invitees. "You see this defender every year. This year there are three of him, and last year there were six. You see this forward. You see this guy who can run, but what else can he do?"Stanford's Eric Verso and Maryland's Tsubasa Endoh – are skillful thinkers first and foremost. But by and large, MLS teams are getting those types of players from their own academies or overseas scouting rather than via the college route."Until the college game changes, that's always going to be the case. These guys are good, but are any of them going to start over Mauro Diaz? Over Federico Higuain? Over Kaka?" an MLS coach offered, with a laugh. "The college game doesn't prepare them for that, and I'm not sure it ever really will."It could get better, though, and it should. You don't need to be Kaka to be a good player."The MLS academy system has changed the way creative, skillful players get into the league. Just about every team out there has at least one or two guys that they can point to as a potential No. 10 of the future, and many of them have skipped the college route to sign Homegrown deals, then cut their teeth in USL.That's the path for playmakers. The path for central defenders and fullbacks has been a little bit different.If there's a worry, it's that defenders in college aren't often asked to carry the ball forward or initiate strings of possession by playing through the midfield. There's still a lot of long ball and a lot of running.
"I hear Jeff flights will finalize after this"After what?Should be close. Showcase weekend flights are seemingly set.
Already spring season of 20 training sessions and 5 days of games allowed. College Teams usually play a round robin with 2 other colleges, normally on 1 or 2 dates they host 2 other college teams and 3 or 4 away for each of 5 game dates in spring. Number of training sessions(20) is same as football team is allowed to have in spring.
You know what I love about Futsal, it changes your ideas about who the best players are on your team for certain positions. You start going, maybe I should have this kid at Center Mid who is a great passer and shows creativity over the kid who I have there who is as technical, bigger, and faster but lacks creativity. Great game for defenders as well, because they are forced to be technical, and make quick decisions
1:24That comment at 12:44 re: early acceptances wasn't from me. It does show Jeff will use last years results for early acceptances for top teams but I know thats not what you are argueing. To see that Jeff is considering last years results you just need to look at 3 teams. Start with Calvert. This fall they came in 5th in their League, and have a tournament record of 0-5-6. GD -7. And some of those teams they couldn't beat, especially in league play were mediocre at best. Yet Jeff has them F2. Why? Because last spring they came in 2nd in their league to the F1 NJ Wildcats, were finalists in 2 decent tournaments, and at least didn't get blown out in any games at Jeff unlike a few other F1 teams.Then look at Ajax. Their tournament record this fall is 1-4-1 GD -11. Multiple blowouts. Yet still get flighted F2. Sure they are currently #1 in their league, but seeing how Jeff flighted the rest of the NE NPL it doesn't appear they have much respect for the league. So why are they F2?, because they were a finalist in F2 at last years Jeff Cup.And then theres FC Frederick, Fall tournament record of 1-7-1 GD -7. They are F2 for one reason and one reason only, they won the region LAST YEAR.You seem to think there is some rule that nothing prior to this fall can be considered when flighting teams, but that just doesn't seem to be the case. Tell me are you happy with your teams placement? Or do you think they got passed over for a team that didn't have as good of a fall season and you find it unfair?
Can someone please post the latest flights for Jeffson (not the link). Just post the latest flights.
Your u13 Jefferson Champions and their >>> u14 flight.FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA) F1 >>> F1WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE) F2 >>> F3DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC) F4 >>> F7STORM SSA 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC) F5 >>> F6UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE) F7 >>> F5PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ) F8 >>> F9TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ) F9 >>> F4
PDA Ajax is F3 can't ask for much more of a drop then that for a team that was F1 at Bethesda and Spirit.I do agree with your points on Calvert though, they are in that flight on rep as a F1 team in past years.
You are also incorrect on Calvert they are also F3.Since they dropped those 2 teams 2 flights that is showng they took this current U14 years poor results very seriously.
Guess they haven't given either Ajax or Calvert much credit for where they were flighted at U13 after all.I have to agree with you on Frederick as their performance at Regionals is the only strong result on their record.
I believe both Elite Orange and Elite Black are to both be considered F2 divisions. Therefore Calvert, Ajax and Frederick are all F2.
Sort of like how FC Stars has Premiership Blue and Premiership White but both are considered F1.
Nothey are not
Pennsylvania US Club State Cup 20161. Southampton SA Orange CrushEastern Pennsylvania State Cup (NCS)1. Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Black 2. Yardley Makefield Soccer YMS Banshees------------------------------------New York US Club Cup 1. Asphalt Green Wave FC Arsenal2. Atletico FC G 013. FC Westchester 02 White4. FCLI Alliance G015. Hauppague SC Hot Shotz6. HBC SC Sparks7. LaGrange SC Rage8. Levittown SC Supersonics9. Manhattan SC G01 Pride10. Massapequa SC Lil Rowdies11. New Hyde Park Wildcats SC Lady Jaguars12. New Rochelle FC RT Premier13. New York SC G0114. Quickstrike FC Elite 02s15. Ramapo Valley SC Tornados 0216. SABA Brooklyn City*******Eliminated**************17. Ramapo Valley Soccer Club Tornados '0218. Silver Lake Soccer Academy Storm19. FCLI United G0120. Manhattan Soccer Club G'01 Pride21. Clarkstown SC 2002 White22. Rye Youth Soccer Rapids23. Hauppauge Soccer Club Hot Shotz24. Perfect Touch Soccer Academy G01-0225. Downtown United Soccer Club GU14 White26. Levittown Soccer Club Supersonics27. Albertson Soccer Club Fury 0128. Albertson Soccer Club Lightning29. New Hyde Park Wildcats Soccer Club Lady Jaguars30. FC South Shore FC South Shore 01-0231. FC Westchester FCWE 02 Navy32. New Rochelle Football Club RT Premier33. Commack Soccer League SUSA Commack FC Barracudas34. SC Gjoa Raiders35. FCLI Alliance G0135. Nirvana Intensity37. OGRCC Greenwich United Morgan38. LaGrange Soccer Club Rage39. North Babylon Patriot Soccer Club Pride/Score F.C.40. White Plains Youth SA United 01East New York State Cup (NCS)1. Perfect Touch SA G01-022. Shrub Oak Athletic Club Girls United3. West Islip Wildcats-----------------------------------New Jersey State Cup (NCS)1. NJCSA ELITE (Champion)*******Eliminated**************2. FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA3. FREEHOLD SL FREEDOM4. MEDFORD STRIKERS SOUL5. MOUNT LAUREL UNITED FURY6. NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL7. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL 8. SDFC SAMBA9. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 0110. WESTFIELD SA FC PREMIER COLOCCINI11. GPS NJ FLASH U14G ELITE 12. REAL NJSC SOUNDERS 13. SJEB '01G NPL14. HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNING15. NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE16. NJ WILDCATS GALAXY17. THISTLE COMETS (NJ) New Jersey US Club Cup 1. Battle of Monmouth SC Lady Revolution2. CTR MSA Comets Blue3. Denville Premier Soccer Lightning4. Edison United SA Lightning Bolts5. FC SPORTIKA Solo6. Freehold SL Freedom7. GPS NJ Central U14G8. Jersey Shore BOCA Jr FC Fusion9. Jersey United Soccer Spartans 01/02G NPL10. Medford Strikers Soccer Club Soul11. Mercer FC Spurs12. Monroe Township SC NJM Elite13. New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue14. NJ Crush FC Tsunami15. NJ Elite Fusion16. NJ Stallions Academy17. NJ Wildcats Averbuch-NPL18. PDA Shore Fusion19. PDA Ajax20. Princeton SA IGFA 01-02 NPL21. Randolph SC Storm22. Real Sounders23. SDFC Samba24. SJEB '01G NPL25. STA Morris United 0126. STA Morris United NPL 0127. TBAA Premier Strykers28. TSF Academy 01/02G29. Twin County SA Piranhas 01/0230. Wall SC Wave
@6:02I said after Ultimate Cup...
11:04Sorry but yes they are. See below:U14F1 ChampionshipF2 Elite OrangeF2 Elite BlackF3 Superior OrangeF3 Superior BlackF4 Platinum OrangeF4 Platinum BlackF4 Platinum WhiteF5 Classic OrangeF5 Classic BlackF6 PremierThe name(championship, elite, etc.) denotes the flight level. The color seperates the teams into multiple but equal groups inside that flight. Not hard to figure out as many tournaments do this, I just cited one for you.
2016 Ultimate Cup (Girls Weekend)2/27/2016-2/28/2016U14 Teams Applied VA NPL#4 VSA NPL Elite 01#7 Richmond Kickers YSC U14 G Elite 1516#9 Richmond Strikers Soccer Club Elite#10 FC United 01G Orange#11 Chesterfield United FC 01G PremierWAGS D5#10 Northern Virginia Soccer Club Jr Majestics 01 Girls BlueCCL#1 BEACH FC 01G Black#8 Potomac SA U14 White#12 SOCA01-02GP (U14G Premier)#15 MCLEAN 01 GREENEDP South D2#1 Severna Park Black Thunder#4 SAC Premier BluePAGS D1#3 PA Classics Academy 01CPYSL Premier D1#2 PA Classics Premier EliteMISCNorth Union United 01F WaveRichmond Kickers U14 G MechanicsvilleRichmond United U13 ECNLSome free pressGS4 Life
Where did you get that list GS4 Life?
I’ve had it with this stupid flighting process, I am taking this miscarriage of justice straight to the top!You will be hearing from President-elect Trump shorty, hope you have explanation ready Jefferson Strikers.
NPL in trouble - Jefferson Cup showing No loveBelow are teams that made played at a National Event and their FlightAnd the irony is the team that did the best in the lowest flight and they beat 3 of the 4 other teams head 2 head. So where are the PDA brand people now? Your best non-ecnl team is flighted below EDP D2 teams. Tell me againGS doesn't matter and just playing showcase events matter - I guess playing F8 is worth it? Back to my point NPL getting No LOVE, but at least you have your PDA event. I'm curious to see the turnout this year now that teams know no GS points will be awarded and the PDA ECNL team doesn't even play in it. Reality Check time?U14F1 Championship** NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)F2 Elite Orange** FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)F2 Elite BlackF3 Superior OrangeF3 Superior Black** STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)F4 Platinum Orange** FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)F4 Platinum BlackF4 Platinum White** PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)F5 Classic OrangeF5 Classic BlackF6 Premier
NPL and ECNL are fading away...
Quick question is Jeff Cup losing credibility as a tournament at the older ages seems like the college coaching list get's smaller and smaller each year, just look at the list of College coaches attending thus far for U15+ age groups. I see 10 D1 schools only. Maybe there is truth to ECNL/NPL/Disney and other Showcases v. a tournament for GS points.
Chill, babyAll about PROCESS
Jeff cup is a pain to get to from the north. The airport is small and expensive, the drive is horrible, the hotels are overcrowded and far away and the fields are usually in bad shape. We are going this year and I wish we were not. Many people think it's so prestigious, it's not. I can't belive there are u10 and 11 teams from NJ going to this, sad.
Agreed. Jeff cup ain't what it used to be. Year after year of terrible field conditions, teams playing in ponds, freezing cold, etc. Not to mention the joy of I95 on a Sunday to get home for many. It's easy to see why teams are looking elsewhere.
All about rankings. For some reason Jeff Cup has remained between #2 and #4 GS Rank for U14-18 girls
I would have preferred to stay home and wait for PDA. I think because our club doesn't want to support PDA, we have to go to Jeff - year after year. We also do stars, but this year we won't because of high school - but that was easy drive. As the girls get older, I wish we had done PDA for years and then be able to get into their showcase event at a decent level due to years of support. To late I guess - live and learn.
Very relieved to be doing other events. Never enjoyed Jeff Cup and agreed it is the absolute worse drive home! I will happily enjoy score updates from those attending :)
Sorry you weren't accepted 1:04
Please you pay the funds Jeff cup accepts only at U15+ do they really push back on teams participating.
Not true 1:35I can give you the name of a pissed off coach to call...but I won't
...unless of course you want to start a 12th flight...
Not the case 1:19. Just going a different route thankfully. Good luck to your team though.
Can't remember more miserable weather/field conditions than last year at Jefferson Cup. It was more a game of slip and slide than soccer. Just ugly to play in not to mention it makes it anyone's game as technical skill goes out the window.
140 If we did not receive the funds by the time accepted team list is publish than that is the main reason why teams get rejected as we always try to find a place to play at the youth levels.
Although the conditions were horrible at Jeff, it was a lesson learned for the players. Learning how to adhere to the conditions and perform is still a part of the game. Teams and players that adjusted the quickest to the conditions had an advantage, especially on that first day. Its an outdoor sport that rarely gets cancelled and cancellations will even happen less as they get older. Learning to play in adverse conditions is just like learning other skills of the game.
4:09 - Nice try.
Yes and while the host club, the hotel and my gas stations appreciated that lesson .... I can't say I did.
4:09 I agree - this is why I tell my daughter to always have a different type of cleat with her at all times to deal with the surface, temp and the elements that's another story. great point.4:24 what are you talking about? Nice try what? Like what he said isn't true my daughter played an entire game in cold rain last year - if you don't block that out I don't care how good you are you become a problem and we are asking 13/14 year old girls to do this.
4:52 So the biggest question is as we move to the U15+ years is Jeff Cup worth the hassle going forward after this year. If the conditions and fields are not up to par why would you want your daughter in those conditions to showcase. I personally wouldn't. I agree players adapt to conditions but come on why put your child in a situation where the possibility to succeed in front of a university coach to impress is reduced. Would you let your child take a driving test in the snow, NO you wait for a nicer day so they can pass correct?
5:00 Do college coaches watch their players play in the rain and snow? Or do they say "its too rainy to play today"? There are a lot less fouls called at 17U and 18U showcases because coaches want to see which players are mentally tough and can deal with adversity. Playing in adverse conditions takes similar mental toughness, which coaches also want to see.
5:00 If i had to pick 4 showcase events next season, I would go with the below 4 and my check book would take a huge hit. 1. CASL2. Disney or NPL Showcase if I'm an NPL team3. PDA Showcase4. Surf Cup
2013 Women's Final between UCLA and Florida, which UCLA won in overtime 1-0. Played in blowing rain and game time temperature was 35 degrees. So yeah, handling the situation in front of coaches is kind of important.
Thinking back on our game played last year at the worst point during that weather was nothing but UGLY. Couldn't pass, use technical skill, and girls were on the ground non stop. What can you evaluate with that??? Most of these games are NOT on turf keep in mind.
Ok we understand conditions plays a big part of toughness on a player, but I do agree with 5:00pm. If I had a choice to put my daughter in a successful environment to get notice I would also choose 521's list of showcases as all 4 of those have good field conditions. Let's say Coach A,B,& C wants to come watch your daughter play and you know the field conditions at Jeff Cup are gonna be bad would you want that, I'd rather wait until I know conditions are better. Plus I think someone brough it up how come such a short list of coaches attending this Jeff Cup?
because it's lost and continues to lose credibility as someone else mentioned earlier.
Yeah those 13 year olds need to get mentally tough and remember to bring all their different length cleats. Whatever.
4:54 see 5:46 comment. Perfect summary.
I have spoken to more than one college scout at showcase events and all of those I've spoken with agree that it is very hard to evaluate players in bad field or weather conditions. Contrary to some other posts they do not use this to identify those players who are able to adapt. Instead they have all said that it's really useless to try. This includes games I've seen on fields with poor maintenance, games in rain and games in high winds. Full disclosure, I'm referring to about 6-8 scouts. I'm not trying to pick a fight. Just letting the board know what I have heard.
6:11 So those coaches only go to games where the fields are in great condition and the weather is always sunny and warm. Funny, the last showcase at the NJ Sodfarm was a wet muddy mess where it rained all weekend. Yet there was all those college coaches in their coaching area near the team sideline at all the different games. Anywhere from 5 to 8 coaches on fields that were horribly wet with players slipping constantly and water flying everywhere. What the hell were all those coaches doing there? Didn't they know players can't show their skillset when the fields are bad? Are your "scouts" names Larry, Moe and Curly? You really ought to stop going on hearsay and try being at one of the showcases with your kid. I have a junior and out of four fall showcases, the weather was bad at to of them. Coaches were still there.
7:40Can you read well?
1. The u15 board said their flights changed a little. So updates are still being made - we are talking about flights that are not final since they haven't been published. But it is fun and it has talking Jefferson now for days.2. It still early college coaches still have two months to register.Below is the current list of D1 Colleges Attending.Canisius CollegeColumbia University Davidson CollegeDelaware State UniversityDrexel University Howard University Iona College St. John's University - New YorkSt. Peter's UniversityTroy University United States Naval Academy
Where are the big name D1's?
I'm kidding!!! Just stirring away. I'm sure the weekend will be warm and sunny and full of D1 coaches ready to recruit a bunch of your youngsters. I personally will be rooting for all division underdogs because it's more interesting that way. So who are the underdogs?
8:41 Its good to see that you do have some knowledge you can apply. To bad it does not pertain to soccer. I promise I will reread before posting, but only if you don't post about soccer. My 5 or 6 scouts tell me your an idiot.
F1 bracket underdogsBRYC or FLORIDAPENN LEGACY or NJ WILDCATSUltimate underdog will be winner of PENN LEGACY vs WILDCATS match
Using Youth Soccer Rankings the flights would look like this.Still off because they still have duplicates, I think the CCL & VA NPL teams are dupes alsoF1#8 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)#10 FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)#22 PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)#32 FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)#42 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)#45 CASL 01 ECNL (NC)#57 BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)#58 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)F2#63 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)#67 OAKWOOD SC (CT)#70 *** PDA AJAX (NJ) + #85#74 *** WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE) +198#86 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)#96 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)#100 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)#109 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)F3#112 ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)#114 ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)#115 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)#127 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)#131 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)#136 *** PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ) +244#138 NSA TWISTERS (IL)#139 FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)F4#144 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)#159 CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)#175 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)#176 *** FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA) +256#178 *** YMS BANSHEES (PAE) +184#179 ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)#181 BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)#185 CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)F5#186 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)#192 FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)#199 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)#209 STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC) #223 PENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE)#224 NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA)#232 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT USA/MP 20 PREMIER (SC)#238 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)F6#241 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)#247 *** HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE) +414#249 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)#250 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)#251 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)#255 KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)#260 VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA) #261 DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)F7#263 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)#268 *** VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW) +834#274 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)#304 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)#308 REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)#309 CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)#317 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED FC 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)#320 CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)F8#322 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)#323 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)#324 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)#332 MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)#337 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)#340 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)#341 HFC READY '01 (PAE)#362 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)F9 #368 LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)#372 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)#373 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)#374 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)#385 HBC SPARK (NYE)#387 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPL (MA)#391 CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)#404 EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)F10#433 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)#452 PIPELINE BLACK (MD)#453 FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)#466 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)#525 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)#541 DMS SOCCER GU14 ACADEMY (NYW)#565 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)#628 CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)F11#635 LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)#678 ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)#723 CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)#790 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)#1252 ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)#1271 RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)#1279 PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)#1349 RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)
pa guys, who is the team to beat in Philadelphia this weekend. I never heard of these teamsI assume most from Pennsylvania?
Of course it is 11:31 but it is fun the look at as a fan of my daughter's team or not fun like it isn't for you. I don't understand why this or GS or any other ranking system is so taboo? The girls train then they play why does everything have to be so"business". What's wrong with a little fun, I kind of like these rankings all about the results
7:38Assuming you're talking Futsal...DCFA Cruzeiro from MD
Woohoo, we just moved up 3 flights in the meaningless post, time to pop the champagne!
Everybody knows the big event is in that crappy ghost town Wildwood. Coldest freaking weekend in history last year.
11:13, can you please do those flights using Got Soccer points, I think we might go up a few more flights, in which case its a case of champagne....
7:56 must be PDA Ajax mom7:58 winter beach blast?
DC Cruzeiro is FCV no?
DCFA CruzeiroRodney Armero Millersville, MDColor: blue/blue
Youth Soccer Rankings USAThe rankings are based solely on team results. Every goal in every game is considered when calculating the ranking of each team. Each team is assigned a score that is measured in goals. To predict the goal difference when two teams play each other simply subtract the score of one team from the score of the other. The problem ist he Duplicate accounts for me. However let's test it with the last major Bethesda Premier Cup Girls - 2015F135.56 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 35.06 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)They say this game should be decided by 0.5 goals for PF the actual score was PF by 3-1F233.70 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER (PAE) 33.19 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) They say this game should be decided by 0.51 goals for YMS the actual score wasYMS by 4-3F334.66 EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER (NYW) - 3 33.06 NJCSA ELITE (NJ) - 0 They say this game should be decided by 1.60 goals for EUSA the actual score wasYMC by 3-0F434.41 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU (PAE) 32.75 DAVIDSONVILLE DYNAMITE (MD) They say this game should be decided by 1.66 goals for LVU the actual score was LVU by 4-1F532.07 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD) 33.69 BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW) They say this game should be decided by 1.62 goals for Beading the actual score was Beading by 1-0They were a perfect 5-0 using the finalsTry it out at the next tournament - very interesting.
An interesting thing to look at would be to take the differential in ysr rankings and got soccer to see what clubs are good atbgaming got soccer.
9:34Pretty much anyone who sees the way you write would consider it irony that you are calling another human being an idiot.
3:43 How about not wasting space on this blog regarding spelling and grammar? Nobody cares but you and the Spell Check Nazi.
Top 2016 brackets to be released at NSCAA ConventionContinuing an annual tradition, the Richmond Strikers will release the top brackets for the 2016 Jefferson Cup at the NSCAA Convention in Baltimore, Md.Top brackets for the 2016 Jefferson Cup will also be announced throughout the day on Friday via social media. Follow @JeffersonCup on Twitter and Jeffcup on Instagram for live updates.
DCFA is Futsal Academy from Maryland, they lost last year in Finals of Wildwood. I would say they will win Atlantic Regional this weekend.
I will give you a perfect example of how Futsal can help a player improve. My kids team lost a tournament final to a team that had a girl on it that I remember from Wildwood. I vividly remember her and NT player from PDA, at that tournament, and thinking to myself, damn hope we get to see her on the big field. Well, the girls clashed, and guess who was the absolutely best player on the field? Yep, her, so for anyone that says Futsal is not soccer, or it doesn’t improve anything, you are so freaking wrong.
While Futsal can be a great format to enhance foot skills and quick two touch passing,- Way too often, this game highlights a players deficient technique on the ball. Players who have been taught the specific intricacies of a particular skill will get better at it from playing Futsal However, So many players who have been taught skill by their coaches have been taught incorrectly. and because a child only does what they been taught , they bring this incorrect technique to the Futsal game.In these instance the Futsal game anchors bad technique rather than help girls improve in tight spaces.So while I agree that Futsal can further a girl with great technique, it can do more harm than good for those players that have been taught incorrectly in the first place.And you would be surprised at the large percentage of girls on the Futsal court that have been taught bad technique.Soccer Nut
So as a coach, use futsal to see who is playing badly? Futsal play is the basic cornerstone to soccer on the big field...can't play futsal, quit the game...
Except for some NJ posts, the blogs are looking better...keep it up!Spell Check Nazi
Spell Check Nazi = Trump supporter.
9:53Sure , but more often than not, the coach that brings their girls to a futsal game are the very same coaches that taught the girl bad technique in the first place.I have no issues with futsal, it is a tool but futsal is no magic bulllet for players that are either lacking the foundation ,or worse-the foundation has been built incorrectly in the first place. Soccer Nut
I agree Soccer Nut, and I am not surprised. If only you could see, what I have seen with these eyes. However, I wholeheartedly applaud the girls and parents that are at least trying to match the rest of the world, its something. Our team is divided on the subject, less than 10 from the team decided to take extra Futsal training offered by the club, and very unfortunately, the players that need it the most have opted out. I think of Futsal as extra winter training, a weekly session to augment the regular winter practices. No more, and no less. Its not for everyone, but it can teach, and that is where they should be, learning, day after day, play after play, serious soccer coming up next year.Donald J. Trump
10:07Make sure you keep it fair...everyone should have equal chance and more importantly...outcome, at any taxpayer costs!Bernie Che Sanders
Hey, have you guys see any Canadian soccer? Pretty good if you ask me.T. Cruz
10:17They have great soccer up there...mostly illegals playing African/Mexican version. National team now on tour in Kenya, Indonesia and Hawaii.William Hillary Clinton
In my point of view futsal is great for developing a players mind with "Quick Thought Process", but of course it's not for everyone. For example if you have a speedy, athletic tall forward on the outdoor field that is unstoppable in the open space she may not be comfortable playing futsal but rather train more during the winter months to build on agility and strength. But if you have daughter that plays midfield futsal can benefit her with the quick thinking process and creativity on the ball. Either way there are benefits in always touching a ball if it's futsal or just regular training. Just remember what a previous blogger posted that the majority if the Penn State Champs played multiple sports during there youth/HS years. So playing year round doesn't always assure you to be better later down the line.
Soccer is for losers. Females, Mexicans and Muslims actually participate in that sport. Golf baby!!TRUMP!
Futsal is a great training aid if its used in that forum. For soccer players that push themselves all year, I'm not sure how much more you would want to push a weakened knee structure caused by a changing female body. Especially if your talking about playing futsal on a hard gym floor. Everyone makes their own decision in regards to their daughters health and need to rest. There are parents on our club having their daughters playing futsal while they are dealing with an injury. Tough decision
1118 to me that's a stupid decision of a parent to paly futsal while recovering from an injury. It's the worry wart parents that are putting their child in a bad situation. I personally rather have a kid at 100% come spring than still missing practices because of recovery or feeling pain.
11:40 Absolutely agree. Being healthy for the start of the season would be a priority. Futsal on a gym floor is horrible for the knees and girls suffer from a much higher percentage of knee injuries anyway. Futsal from U9 to U 12 is excellent though, and the players physically haven't gone through any changes at those ages.
Some parents don't care. It's just do do do. They have no idea what harm they are causing. I'm not saying doing futsal is bad. Great for footwork and speed of play but it's the ones that dont know how to manage the load for the sake of their child's body.
So I assume my daughter shouldn't play basketball either?
wow, great comments on Futsal. My daughter is a goal keeper, not so good for them. Sure, passing back, sweeper keeper, ball movement and quick reflexes are enhanced, however the knees, damage by diving, falling is not good at all for them. Much rather she play on turf, but so much winter training is held on gym floors it is hard to avoid. The gym allows teams to save $$$ and typically coaches can get the gym at no cost. Keep this in mind, keepers are crushed over the season if they play the right way, always diving and slide tackling, their bodies are beat up in general, especially if year round player. I strongly recommend keepers past age 12 as previous poster says to limit Futsal play.
True - keepers get the worst of futsal.
from the looks of the u14 lineups in some recent tournamentsthe field of teams has gotten much smaller this year. the teams that take futsal serious seem to be in the finals at every tournament over the past few years.we play futsal because my child loves it.On her soccer team she normally is a defender. in futsal she's one of our biggest playmakers and scores. I have 2 older kids that benefited tremendously from doing winter futsal. I always thought I could see a measurable difference in them on the soccer field come springtime. in my mind it's well worth the time and effort.
Prelim Jeff Cup Brackets: http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=46791&Group=Girls_14
1:52 Not a question of whether you daughter should play basketball or not, that is your daughters choice. But if a player is playing club soccer from February right into summer, then school ball from August into October (practice every night plus a few club ones sprinkled in). Then competes in club fall soccer and plays basketball from mid November into the end of January (practice every night), where is the time to heal physically? Each parent knows their kids physical limitations better than anyone else, but often its hard not to see them shine. Sometimes the sports car has to stay in the garage.
The preliminary brackets won't changePL takes F1
Takes a beating maybe
Setting yourself up aren't you PL?
FCV will be toughest imoStill looking for some F1 to drop
Pray to God that you don't have to share any hotels with the PA teams, its like going to a High School reunion and then realizing you hated everyone in High School. #wekeepourdoorsopen
8:21You're not really naïve enough to think that was a PL parent are you?
8:28 and 8:45 - Love it. Someone rip on the Long Island parents and my morning will be complete.
8:28The PA teams we've shared hotels with have always been lovely...Who are you referring to? On a serious note...anyone at the NSCAA convention?
8:28At least the high school reunion includes people who actually graduated...
Final game predictionsFL Elite vs PL winner PLFrederick vs GPS winner GPSMD United vs PAC winner MD United
Only time Long Island is a good thing is when the words "ice tea" is added on to it. Just ask the drunk PA parents having the high school reunion.
9:51 - and now my morning is complete.
Sorry Spell Check Nazi.
Yes, I am at the convention. I also have seen the brackets.There are some movers from what was posted here.Ajax - dont get too excited
You either, PA Classics.
10:38Let's hear it...
Is there any chance that we moved from 9th flight to 1st flight??I mean, its possible right? No really, it can happen, right? Look people, its not about wins and loses, its about looking good while doing both.
yep, dont worry about the flights - just win your games
11:35You may share that with the soccer moms...
Oh, I’ll be sharing a lot more than that, hahaha, I plan on being very friendly at the convention.
Question for NYSC club parent.Has there been a coaching change at this age group recently?
Hoping to recruit the Penn United Force coach when he's down in Richmond with us
11:55Yes, at FC Crush, you don’t the old guy was responsible for all of their fall season success, do you??P.S. I also think that there are some more changes that I don't know about, perhaps at Phillip Morris United.
flights look good, it is so hard to tell, I think once you are completed and you look at history and scores that is only way to justify flighting. If they got it wrong it will be obvious. It is like why go to FC Delco with local competition good locally in NJ that particular weekend. Same with Jeff cup, if not playing top flights why go, just for prestige? If I am in top 2-3 flights I get it, but below that what is the point really? I am not critiquing, rather asking question. If you play locally in top flight and win, then you should go to Jeff cup, but if not why?
Ponderous man, ponderous....
Sucky way to look at itYou have a plan going into the season - then just scrap the plan because you may be flighted low?What message are you sending your team?
I agree 2:15, stop being a bitch 2:10, and accept. Personally, I think its a huge waste of time and money...
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