Dear Average at Best,Please name a team that is worthy of your praise, enlighten us all, we need perspective, can you help?Thank you!
Our entire age group is weak, this is why you think you are so good. I'm not impressed with any teams, including ours. Most teams are playing kick and run.
Agree, even PDA is a average team for their club. Scorpions is only solid team I have seen...so far.
I am sorry but our age group is not weak. there are many strong teams in NJ alone
"Agree, even PDA is a average team for their club."Good luck
You guys se the applied list for Delco recently- WOWGirls U12Penn Legacy FC 01 BlackTri-State FA Elite 01Albertson 2001 Fury BlueAlbertson Soccer Club Fury '01 RedAlleycat Premier U12 Americans RebelsArlington SA Samba RedBreakers GU12EliteBrentwood DynamiteContinental FC Arsenal '01FCrew Juniors Crew Jr's Gold WestDeep Run United Black 01FEast Meadow HotShotzEast Meadow Sky BlueGreater Binghamton FC 01 SelectHarford FC United ThunderHMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRITHYS HooligansJersey Premier Soccer FlashLevittown Soccer Club SupersonicsManhattan SC G01 PrideMaryland United FC 01 RedMaryland United FC North 01 RedMaryland United FC North 01 WhiteMatch Fit Academy FC Black (Lady Falcons)Match Fit Academy FC Lady Jaguars (Blue) Morris United /STA 01/02 G NPLMorris United /STA 01/02G NPL WNJ Crush FC TsunamiNJ Crush FC Tsunami WhiteNJ Wildcats AverbuchPA Crew Academy Blue Pa Crew Soccer Academy U12G WhitePerfect Touch Soccer Academy Girls 01-02PHWM SC PumasSABA Brooklyn CitySmithtown StarsSouth Shore Select u12 EliteStaten Island United Hot ShotsTFA Premier U12Toms River FC COPA '01Vienna Youth Soccer VYS Pride '01 RedVincent United F.C. VengeanceWest Chester United SC Predators'01White Plains United 02World Class FC World Class FC '01 CharltonWorld Class FC World Class FC '01Hamm
There are 4 elite teams, brainiac at 7:462 in each bracketOther 4 teams are next level.
Okay sorry, you are elite and premiere. When paying as much as you and having three coaches, you must be elite.I'm elite too when I over pay and fly first class.
11:09, please let us know who the elite teams are in each bracket, so that I can bet on those teams. Are you offering any goals, what is line, what is the over and under? Are any go their star players injured? Will weather help, or hurt these elite teams. Please, just share your thoughts, its nice to share.
Personally, I believe that negative comments about any team are petty, bitter, and given the context, utterly, and completely loser-ish. So, who is a loser?These are all elite teams, just ask their fans.
As to the weather this weekend....My daughter actually likes the cold weather for soccer, it's the 100 degree heat that is tough to play soccer in
How would she know? Does she play in this weather?
Something is up because the schedules for Manhattan Kickoff are not available.
They are rearranging the games, and perhaps canceling entire age groups, that would be the prudent thing to do, I would guess that the tourney will now only be for u14-u18 players, and their elated parents, yay!
Of course she does, whatever it takes to be an elite player...on a premiere Crush, I'm mean club. This is my dream, not hers baby. We will have more got soccer points than anyone after our next 4 tournaments in a row and two leagues this spring.
Why would they do this to us? This is not right.
Look at the field listings, it has shrunk by at least half, no way they can get game in without canceling ,any of the groups entirely, especially u12, and u13, since they need the big turf fields for the older teams, make other plans people!http://events.gotsport.com/events/fields.aspx?EventID=33873&FieldID=
Looking ahead to Fall 2014/2015 NPL/ECNL Teams. GS Projected Flight Values prior to Spring Events. Curious to see how much this changes after the June Events. Yes. I'm thinking ahead to warmer temps - good luck to all the Girls playing this weekend.9,500 = Pre-ECNL 6,000 = NYCSL NPL5,750 = EDL NPL2,313 = NE Girls NPL#2
Looks like the jealous parents lobby got their way and put the kibosh on the Manhattan Kickoff.... lol dopes.
The Tournament is ON, we just need to know if the entire U12G group will be canceled, or just the lower brackets. There might also be some field switching, but if I were you, I would start planning tonight.
Oh no... The jellyass parents paid off Al Roker to make it snow...
Really, below is what the fuss is all about? My daughter has played in worse conditions than that - and for those of us that have played I'm sure we have also played in worse conditions than that.Sat Mar 1Few Snow Showers 37° Sun Mar 2Light Wintry Mix 35°People need to relax and let the EVENT people do their job. Your daughter's team applied to a Northeast tournament in early March - we all know we are at the mercy of the weather - can we move on from this please?#2
I really don’t think its a temperature issue, its the conditions of various fields. No way that any games are going to be played on grass, therefore its just turf, and in that regard, the filed space is limited. They are suppose to announce today, everyone, and their mother (literally) are waiting....
But, but, but...#2...Range Rovers! Crush Copters! Stupid ECNL parents!!! I need something to complain about! I need someone towards whom I can direct my anger and jealousy!!
Crush copter is not going to help Tsunami this weekend, unless it has a mini-gun, that might help, a little, but still no guarantees ; P
9:09 has it right - now that the forecast has the temps in the high 20s/30s.Previously we were looking at 15-18 degrees with 12-15 MPH winds at 7 AM....
Problem with temps would be the earlier games when its going to be 10 degrees. And no at age 12 we did not play in these conditions. But back then it was about the kids not the parents ego and the $ for the clubs.So what is your line in the sand as a parent #2. How low would the temp need to be for you to hold your daughter out?
"We didnt do it back at U12"Why are you here if you are not currently a U12 participant?
10:44 don't be a dope. The poster meant us parents didn't play in below freezing temps when we were 12. I don't think anyone here is a U12 Participant, we are parents of participants. If you are a U12 Participant, you should be in school not on this message board.
I think if the fields are clear that 32 degrees and mostly clear at 11 AM Saturday (figure 28-30 at 8 AM) and 32 degrees with a wintry mix for the 12 noon final Sunday should be fine.
#2 - like 99% of us - wouldnt hold his daughter out. He'd allow the organizers and most importantly his daughter's club to make the decision.It's a team sport - and even if you feel it is wrong to play in certain conditions - you dont let your teammates downIf decisions you do not agree with keep getting made. then maybe you voice your opinion - and in the severest of cases - you depart.
Has anyone looked in your backyard recently? If the snow has melted off your lawn, is the grass in any shape to walk on?You don't think that their fields still have snow on them. How can they run a tournament on these fields. They can't. It's not about how cold it will be, it's all about the fields. But all you pansy asses care about is what to complain about next
Looking at the hourly weather reports for nyc it is around 12 degrees colder at 8am than it is at the high temp for each day/so 33-35 high sat and sun means around 20-23 temp at 8am.
Premier brackets of U15 and up only "might play" The rest is scratched.
11:33, how do you know for sure???
Line in the sand? I don't have one - I chucked that out when we decided to take our kid to a club to play premier soccer. The Club/Team/Event People make the decision to play or not. If they say yes, then my daughter will be at the field ready to play event thought we may not like it.Some things are out of my control. When they play, where they play, how they play, how many minutes she plays, what events they play in. She is part of a team and if the team plays she will play the role her team needs her to play.If I didn't want to travel 3 hours to a game she wouldn't be playing travel soccer - If i didn't want her to play when it was to cold or hot - she wouldn't play travel soccer. That's just me though.#2
#2 is the guy on here that I would most like to have a beer with. Seems like a decent guy.
Updated info from the site. 2014 MSC Kick-Off ClassicManhattan Soccer Club is currently assessing field conditions and monitoring the U12 Section of the Youth Soccer Talk Blog to make a determination about the Kick Off Classic Soccer Tournament scheduled for this weekend, February 28- March 2 2014. We have taken down the schedule to make changes as some parents think we should play and others think we shouldn't. We will have a final determination by Wednesday, as we will have an accurate view of the opinions of the U12 parents and the fields by then. Thank you for your patience as we try to fully assess the situation.
#2Health and welfare of my child is my #1 job as a parent and I couldn't absolve myself of that just for soccers sake. Has nothing to do with driving commitment etc. Would you allow your child to play hurt? If there are no lines for you the answer would be yes.
I hope your child can breathe OK through that bubble wrap...
Just wish MSC would post their final decision already!!! If they are doing only U15 and up why keep the younger brackets waiting to find out if they are playing.
Tournament administrators wish to send it all out in one message, I'd guess.
Personally, I don't like playing games in this weather. By my later years coaching I would never attend an outdoor tournament here in the Northeast between Thanksgiving and April Fool's. Between the frozen ground and cold temperatures, they were neither fun nor produced quality soccer that was of any value to the players. At this point, however, the decision is out of my hands. And although my daughter's team is not playing outdoors this weekend, they will be practicing outdoors early Saturday morning. She'll survive the cold, as will all the other players in action this weekend.
Thanks PDA Dad. Have fun Saturday.
Has my child missed games because she was ill? Yes. Hurt? Not yet, but I'm sure that will happen some day (worst nightmare). Of course she is number #1 and her health comes first, that's why I'm #2.SO I keep my child home because it's to cold. The event is still on - the rest of her team shows up - so not only do they have to play in the cold - now they have one less player because I thought it was to cold for my child to play when the event thought it was safe and the guy/girl I trust the most to watch over her when she plays didn't pull the team. Now imagine a few of us didn't show. ALl you can do is show up and hope for the best.We all have different lines in the sand. I just hope mine is the right one for my kid.#2
PS. I'm really #3 because the wife is #2. But i like #2 because of what else it stands for :)
Don't justify your parenting to the dolts on this board #2.
Thanks 2:36 it's all good. Good luck to all the kids that are playing what ever age group.#2
Every negative comment is not from PDABut I do understand why you dislike themThanks crush dad
Nothing to dislikeDivision would be weaker without them
Good luck to all the girls playing, dress warm! As a healthcare professional I have to advise you to tell your daughters NOT to head the ball this weekend as the ball will be too hard with no give.
forget about it if there is precipitation and the ball gets wet.. it can freeze and be really dangerous
So who is playing in the WC/MF event the following weekend?
The Manhattan Soccer Club Kick Off Classic 2014 Tournament is assessing the Youth Soccer Blog and field situation. We will have a new updated and truncated schedule posted on the website by 7pm Wednesday February 26, 2014. We will monitor the weather throughout the week and weekend, and continue to post and send updates.
Can you confirm the Match Fit fields are playable?
Any word on DTS Tournament?Thanks in advance
I blame all the confusion with Manhattan tourn on George Bush.
How many fields in northern NJ have you seen that ARE playable?
Manhattan schedule posted. Going to be a lot of upset people.
Where, I don't see it, you got inside info???
The Manhattan Soccer Club Kick Off Classic 2014 Tournament is assessing the current weather report and field situation. We will have a new updated and truncated schedule posted on the website by 9 PM Wednesday February 26, 2014. We will monitor the weather throughout the week and weekend, and continue to post and send updates. The 9PM part in BOLD
U13 and up
Manhattan schedules posted for U13s & up, looks like all other age groups games cancelled which would be U8 through & including U12.
Yep its official, U12 girls in Manhattan cancelled, just got notification from our club.
With no u12 Action this week it looks like DTS is also changing some stuff. We look to next week, below are the 3 outdoor events in NY/NJ/PASTA Spring Invitational 2014 Girls (3/7/2014 - 3/9/2014) 11v11AMERICANS REBELS PDA DRAGONS STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOT SHOTS STRONGHOLD SC FURY8v8Bracket ANJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDAR MORRIS UNITED /STA 01/02G NPL NJSA 04 NPL-01 STARS Bracket BMORRIS UNITED /STA 01/02 G NPL PRIMO FC U/12 GIRLS SABA BROOKLYN CITYMAPS 2014 SPRING CHALLENGE [GIRLS](3/8/2014 - 3/9/2014) 11v11Bracket 1FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ) FC WESTCHESTER ELITE 02 (NYE) PITTSGROVE SC RUSH 01/02 (NJ) Bracket 2 MERCER FC SPURS (NJ) SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ) WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER (NJ) 8v8 HARLEYSVILLE FC HFC STORM (PAE) LOWER MERION SC HERRICANES (PAE) QUICKSTRIKE FC 02'S (NYE) TOMS RIVER FC COPA '01 (NJ) FC EUROPA TURF CUP - Girls Weekend(3/8/2014 - 3/9/2014)11v11CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) SOUTH CENTRAL PA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE) SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 WEST (NJ) TBD 8v8Bracket A FC EUROPA LIBERTY (PAE) FC REVOLUTION THUNDER (PAE) UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS RED (PAE) UNITED FC U12G ADIDAS (NYW) Bracket B FC REVOLUTION FORCE (PAE) HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS GOLD (PAE) NETHER UNITED XTREMES (PAE) #2
TBH, I am happy that they are not playing this outside weekend, its too cold, and Saturday morning at 7am on Randall’s Island will be brutal. Feel sorry for the u13 girls, and their parents. This is also a parking issue, with all teams only getting 3 parking passes, the parents have to take a shuttle bus to the fields, yes, no warm car to sit in during the breaks, brutal.In retrospect, are the GS points worth more than your daughters health, I say no way!
Forget about outside tourneys until April, there is another foot of snow coming on Monday, this weather is for the birds, well, not even them...
Looks like PDA Storm is playing in u13 bracket of STA tournament.That's curious
7:25 No one said anything about GS Points besides you.FYI Sat Mar 1 Sun 39°/32°CHANCE OF PRECIP: 0%Sun Mar 2 Cloudy 40°/25°CHANCE OF RAIN: 10%#2
This might be a bad Spring with a bunch of games being pushed back.With all this snow and April Showers the grass fields are not going to be in any shape to play games.Unless they play on Turf it looks like a bunch of games get pushed this Spring as 7:29.#2
Unless there's snow on the ground or rain on the actual days of the tournament, the MAPS Spring Challenge should be ok. Those fields are usually fantastic and drain quickly.Temps and wind can be a different story though.
The girls are disappointed, they trained very hard this winter, and really wanted to compete against such great teams. We never underestimate an opponent, and never-ever listen to the negative comments, although they do bring a good laugh on occasion. We, as a group, take soccer very seriously, and as the spring EDP schedule indicates, we have more than enough games to develop the team. We are not perfect, nor average, somewhere in the middle, and we are always looking to improve, see at the fields!
10:16 I love to read "take soccer very seriously". It sounds like you are in a good place. Lots of luck.#2
Thank you Mr. 2, we will take your good wishes, and mix them with some of ours, add dedication, attention, and a little self-confidence, and we should have a good season. We have a strong core, and hopefully the edges will improve, and yes, we do take running around with soccer ball seriously, we are all-in, and let the chips land where they fall...
Wow, I would say the crush guy is over the top obsessed.
I am not a Crush parent, but I video-tape like one!
11:23 No need to know the team/clubAs a parent of a kid not on the edge how do you want the edges to improve via development or replacement? As a parent of a kid on the edge how do you want the edges to improve via development or replacement? As a coach how do you want the edges to improve via development or replacement? #2
PS. Your team is playing in a regional league where results at u12 league games can lead to a national title.#2
Just catching up for the start of Spring season:1. Crush players moved to Storm?2. Match Fit still undecided on where teams will practice/play in Fall?. NJX is now MF?3. Is East Brunswick still a team?4. PDA will field a team in TR this fall?Thinking about moving my daughter to a different team this fall. Trying to keep up with the changes in this age bracket. #2- You bring a good level headed approach to the site.
Just for the record there is no u12 regional league that gives teams a chance to win a national title#2
Since you asked Mr. 2, here is my response.1. A little of both, some have conflicting interests, such as another sport, that interferes with their personal development, only serious players need apply, and I say that with utmost respect and admiration for the girls referenced, great kids, and parents.2. Cannot answer, not relevant to us.3. Again, I am just a parent, although I was a great AYSO coach!Agreed, club/team not important, since I think most parents feel this way, but that’s just me, and my two-cents...
12:54 my opinions:1. no idea - but according to this board it sounds like 2 made a move.2. We will find out soon I think as clubs start to release their tryout schedules.3. Didn't EB merge with STA?4. PDA and TR merged to create PDA ShoreI am also having the same thoughts, I will probably make a list talk to my daughter about my plan - let her rank the list and hope that #1 has the first tryout and she is offered a roster spot otherwise it can get very complicated very fast.Good Luck to your kid #2
Spears bubble kid dad and a few others should get an apology of some sorts. Manhattan completely canceled now. Who would have thought a couple dads could see that playing this weekend was insane but it took all the experts in charge till now to reach the same conclusion.Bunch of wimps. Gonna drivebe up anywaya and haveready my daiughter jugle for a couple hours just because.
2 Crush players now with PDA StormBut just one came from the U12The Crush U12 first team lost 3 altogether, promoted one player and went from 17 to 15 players.Thus there is room to add players - from the B team - or from the spring tryout - for Fall 2015. ELITE PLAYERS IN AREA TAKE NOTE.
Looks like we will have some u12 Soccer this weekend - The Schedules are back up for:DTS Winter Invitational Girls 2014(3/1/2014 - 3/2/2014) Let's see how the PA teams stack up to JPS and NJSA for a GS Projected Flight value of 2,250 NJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDAR (NJ) HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ) LOWER MERION SC HERRICANES (PAE) YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (PAE) Note: I'm the only fool who cares about flight values - I'm sure none of these teams can give a rats you know what about them.#2
#2, keep doing your thing. There are those among us that appreciate your effort.
Girls U12 R1 Colonial League BRYC 01 ELITE DOUG MILLER SOCCER GU12 STEALTH GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM We will also have some Girls U12 Friendlies this weekend:3/1/20149:00 AMPA CREW ACADEMY BLUE BRYC 01 ELITE 12:00 PMRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE3:00 PMBRYC 01 ELITE RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM#2
What team did the other two players go to?15 players is nice for playing time, just need to be careful of injuries at this ageGood luck
How does a round robin series of friendlies get arranged between one team from VA, one team from Western PA, and one team from South Jersey? And how do you know about it? Have you outed yourself, #2? Are you a Rage parent? I won't judge....
oh, my dear #2, it seems that you are done being an anon., and I for one am glad, and I do judge you, I judge you to be a good guy, whatever your team, your answers are always polite and smart.Keep on Truck’in...
I was able to confirm today that MF tryouts for all ECNL teams will be down at Raritan. Even though tryouts are down south. U12 to be U13 team will be playing up North.
Bravo to Manhattan SC for handling this unfortunate circumstance in a thoughtful, professional manner. Well done.
Absolutely agree. Appears MSC handled decision making in a thoughtful deliberate way, regardless of player parent opinions
I'm not a rage parent and even if i was I would still say I'm not a rage parent. I hate posting links, but just for the record - below is the R1 colonial league schedule page.http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=34007&Gender=Girls&Age=12Next week is are 3 other Friendlies3/8/201411:00 AMDOUG MILLER SOCCER GU12 STEALTH GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT2:00 PMPENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK DOUG MILLER SOCCER GU12 STEALTH 5:00 PMGREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECTPENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK#2
5:32 Did you also get Dates. I must admit I am waiting for PDA and MatchFit to post their dates. I they waiting for each other before they set their dates in stone?#2
Scorpion Bowl 2014, Girls U9-U182/28/2014 - 3/2/2014Girls U12 11v11 - Barcelona BREAKERS GU12 PREMIER (MA) BREAKERS GU12 WEST ELITE (MA) CFC ARSENAL SKY (CT) FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL ATHLETIC (MA) SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)Girls U12 8v8 - Barcelona AMERICA FC UNITED U12 GIRLS (MA) BREAKERS GU12CLUB (MA) MASS PREMIER SOCCER GPS-MA ELITE NPL (MA) NEFC CENTRAL N BARCELONA U12 GIRLS (MA) #2
#2, are you targeting those teams for #1 this fall?PDA or MFA
Well, just proves that you do your research, since they will be competitive teams for years to come, hope we play against your team someday....
@ #2If those are your target teams for your daughter then I'm sure you know that #1 should be introduced to the coaches and the teams well before try-outs.She should be actively working out with the teams before the try-out sessions. The chances of making one of these teams goes up exponentially if the coach already knows what your daughter can do well before try-outs.lots of luck to your daughter!
Good Luck #2, you would be a welcome addition to any sideline.Top Ten teams 1-PDA Storm (State Cup Champs)2-NJX (Big, strong team)3-MF Black (Need to see them beat PDA or NJX in an elimination game)4-Rage (still probably thinking about them at U11)5-PDA Ajax (Won tough EDP last Fall)6- Crush (Curious if recent departures hurt them)7- JPS (Under the radar, very good team)8- PDA Dragons (Play good team soccer)9-STA (Can they adjust from 8v8 quickly?)10 NJ Force- (Great defense, can they find some goals?)This is just my opinion, not trying to offend any teams I missed. To be fair, I tend to over rate Rage based on their U11 play, This Spring should show where they are now.. Good luck and health to everybody in the Fall.
I would switch Crush and Ajax
no GFA and no COPA and no WILDCATS?
Just like a poster mentioned a few days ago, all average at best....
what teams would be better?
TY, I'm sure all these teams are great, but as the poster said their top 10. I think Spring will be a fun and stressful time for all the kids with playing outdoors/warmer weather and tryouts. I will be happy for my little one if she makes her target team but sad because some other little one may have lost out on a spot. I became such a "softy" when my little one was born (I love every second of it - I see things a lot different these days) while I understand this is premier soccer - I can't help but think what if that was my little one. While I get the entire train with the team thing so the coach can see your kid prior to tryouts- that has to make for an uncomfortable situation for kids and parents.I think the Spring EDP season will answer a bunch of questions this year and come fall I'm sure a few PA teams will probably join the fun#2
TSF PDA Shore
Do you really believe that your kid will get a fair look from these Academy teams that are pretty much set? That's my biggest fear right now. Anyone else feel the same. Do you really think these teams will make cuts?
11:23 is that you???
12:10 They will if the coach feels it improves the team or the club. At the end of the day - not everyone sees our kid like we do. To us they are a STAR and one of the top players on their team. To some one else they might be a player on the edge or they might share the same views.No Academy team is set at u12 or u13 in my opinion, but what do I know. Some girls improve while others lose interest and it will all show on the field. The ball is in our kids court when they tryout or train - what they do with it is totally up to them. Regardless if we think it's fair or not. All we can do is hope that coach happens to see them playing well not making a mistake (which they all do), I would just hope he or she is looking the other way then :).#2
TSF and Wildcats are much better than half your top 10. look at there record. JPS and Force are nowhere near a top 10 team
Have the ones posting their personal top 10 even see all these teams play? Last list is now saved on my phone for future laughs.
Well, who is your top 10 clowney?
Some great points. I have not seen IGFA play.Wildcats had a big win against Rage. One of the reasons I stated earlier that I probably over rate Rage from their U11 days. Otherwise, Wildcats finished 4th last season behind Ajax, NJX and NJ Force. They tied a bunch of teams that very good teams should beat. Its just my opinion and I tried to support it.
I dont think you overrate RageStill an excellent team. Recently had a clean sheet for an entire event, I believe.
Rage also lost a friendly 3-0 to WCUSC (PA), and WCUSC does not even play much 11v11.
I think they beat Crush the same weekend
Rage beat Crush? Or WCUSC beat Crush?
RAGE. Well actually both.Crush have never beat RAGE.
1:53 i'm a clown because i don't agree with you? if you were a part of a good team you would have played all the teams in the top 20. Rage is a top team and anybody who questions that has never played them. 1. PDA Storm2. Rage3. MF4. NJX5. Crush6. Wildcats7. PDA Ajax8. NJ Force9. TSF10. PDA Dragons
Clowned here-U posted results which may or may not indicate level of play for each game/team. Ajax beat njx so why aren't they higher on the list? Maybe because that's their only win against top talent?I try and watch the game and the play on the field not the score at the end of the game to tell me which team played the better soccer.NJ force would have trouble scoring an own goal and while I like the dragon team game they don't have the talent to be top 10 at this time.I would put the newly forming cedar stars girls team #1and if I had a vote. You don't even have to pay to play and you get free uniforms:)
Clown because you are going to take a picture and laugh at it in the future. What was so funny about the first top 10? Rage is not a top 5 team. Because you win with a dominant player, does not mean you have a good team and play good soccer. Why is PDA better than MF? MF just beat them.
PDA is better than Match fit because they play better soccer and their girls have more skill.Besides it is immaterial at this point because both teams will be different in the Spring.
1. PDA1. MF3. NJX4. AJAX5. TSF6. WILDCATS7. RAGE8. FC COPA9. IGFA10.FORCE11.DRAGONS12.STA13.JPS14.NJSA/CEDAR STARS ACADEMY15.TRFC
PDA has also won State Cup, You don't get to say you are better if you don't participate in State cup.At this age( maybe not older) the better teams give it a go in state cup.It's a nice proving ground to settle stupid discussions like this one about what teams are better at this point.
How will they both be different? PDA added 2 players to a solid team. What did MF do? NJX lost their best player to the Wildcats.
I have seen all of the following teams play. With that said and expanding it to 20, I will say there isn't a significant difference at this time between teams 1-5 then teams 6-14 and then teams 15-20. There is clearly 3 distinct levels of play and with the player movement noted on this board, the number of teams at each level may change slightly for U12 spring and could change significantly change for U13. 1 Storm2 MF Black3 NJX4 Rage5 Crush6 Wildcats7 Ajax8 NJ Force9 IGFA10 JPS Flash11 Dragons12 SDFC13 STA14 TSF15 SJEB16 Toms River17 Medford18 FC Copa 19 Manalapan20 E. Brunswick
Top Ten teams 1. Match Fit Black (Hands down)2. PDA Storm (has to prove they can beat ECNL teams)3. NJX (Have to learn how to play soccer)4. GFA5. Crush6. NJ Wildcats7. RAGE8. TSF9. Jersey Premier10. PDA AJAX
I watch PDA game vs Match Fit, I have to disagree. MF players were better skilled. PDA had trouble moving forward
To 4:13 pm today:Your top 15 list loses credibility by including FC Copa Lima at #8. I also don't think NJSA belongs in there.- EE
why is Matchfit hands down better than PDA, just curious.No Dog in this fight ,but "hands down" sounds like such a certainty.How may times have these two teams played?Was the game so one sided that it was apparent to everyone watching?This sounds like a Matchfit parent.In my book the State cup champs always gets the Nod, until they are dethroned.You have to start with PDA then NJX then Matchfit.It will be interesting to see the results of these 3 teams going head to head this Spring.I'm sure when Matchfit plays PDA & NJX they will have no trouble with this group since they are number 1 Hands down
PDA added 2 players to roster correct. Match Fit will be adding several key players to roster for next year especially if the better NJX players look to tryout. You combine NJX\Match Fit Black. Very very strong team!
Good list 4:22Parsippany might belong in there somewhereNJSA has potential
"I watch PDA game vs Match Fit, I have to disagree. MF players were better skilled. PDA had trouble moving forward"I think Matchfit will have a full plate with this team in the Spring.
4:39Lets stick to the springState Cup should be a great competition.
"Full plate" is an understatement.
Its still all about Crush and PDA Storm. Only teams to challenge the best of the best consistently (CRUSH #1 at doing this). I'll reluctantly add NJX.... since they did at least go to Delco.......
Match fit so good that "Dragon" players are playing for them this spring.
Which event is the winner with MSC out? Delco? Girls U12New JerseyAmericans RebelsHolmdel FC NJX CelticJersey Premier Soccer FlashMatch Fit Academy FC (Lady Falcons)Match Fit Academy FC (Lady Jaguars)Morris United /STA 01/02 G NPLMorris United /STA 01/02G NPL W NJ Crush FC TsunamiNJ Crush FC Tsunami WhiteNJ Wildcats AverbuchPlayers Development Academy AjaxToms River FC COPA '01 Pennsylvania EastContinental FC Arsenal '01FDeep Run United Black 01FFC Revolution ForceFC Revolution ThunderHFC Ready '01HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT Penn Legacy FC 01 BlackVincent United F.C. VengeanceWarrington Soccer Club FC BombersWest Chester United SC Predators'01GPennsylvania WestPA Crew Academy Academy Blue Pa Crew Soccer Academy U12G White New York EastAlbertson Soccer Club 01 Fury Blue Albertson Soccer Club 01 Fury RedAlleycat Premier U12Brentwood DynamiteEast Meadow HotShotzEast Meadow Sky BlueLevittown Soccer Club SupersonicsManhattan SC G01 PridePerfect Touch Soccer Academy Girls 01-02SABA Brooklyn CitySachem SpeedSmithtown StarsStaten Island United Hot ShotsWhite Plains United 02World Class FC World Class FC '01 CharltonWorld Class FC World Class FC '01HammNew York West Greater Binghamton FC 01 SelectOhio SouthCrew Juniors Crew Jr's Gold WestTFA Premier U12 Tri-State FA Elite 01 VirginiaArlington SA Samba Red Arlington SA Samba WhiteHYS HooligansVienna Youth Soccer Pride '01 RedMassachusettsBreakers GU12EliteSouth Shore Select u12 Elite ConnecticutConnecticut Football Club Arsenal Orange MarylandHarford FC United Thunder Maryland United FC 01 RedMaryland United FC North 01 Red Maryland United FC North 01 WhitePHWM SC Pumas Canada Oakville Soccer Club A 2001
Are WCUSC, Sachem and EM Hotshotz playing 11 v 11?
Sorry for leaving CRUSH out of the mix but with losing your stud this fall, I can not see your team being a top 5. 1. PDA1. MF3. NJX4. AJAX5. TSF6. CRUSH7. WILDCATS8. RAGE9. FC COPA10.IGFA11.FORCE12.DRAGONS13.STA14.JPS15.MF JAGS16.MEDFORD17.NJSA/CEDAR STARS ACADEMY18.TRFC19.MERCER FC20.JACKSON
How can NJX be ranked number #3 and not know how to play soccer? Sounds like someone is really jealous of this team. Why?
This list sucks, where is the daughters team?
I demand a recount!The fix is in, and the ref. is in on it, too...
TSF, COPA and Force, LOL. They have played about 2,987 games since summer and won nothing except a lot of reward points for gas purchases.I mostly agree with the original list. They at least tried to support their rankings.
NJ GS Top 15HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTICNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCHSDFC SAMBAINTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALSJERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASHMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACKTSF ACADEMY 01/02PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXPARSIPPANY SC GENESISPDA DRAGONSNJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDAR
I would agree with 6:14 poster than follow GS Points.MF and PDA are top, either team can beat each other while both are better than rest of pack!
I'm assuming 6:14 or anyone else that has a top 10 has seen ALL the NJ teams in action since Aug 2013? If not how is your list made? Results? If your beef is with GS tell me what events are not captured for all the teams and I will project the values for those events for you so we can compare apples to apples, all the teams not just MF or PDA.#2
I find the problem with rankings are just because a team loses does not mean they are not the best. Nobody goes undefeated in any sport. So because NJX or PDA Or MF lose a game does not mean they are not the best. MF on got soccer has very few points because they don't play got soccer tournaments. Does this mean there are 10 teams with more points are better? No. Top teams now are PDA MF. The gap will widen over the next few years because best players parents will want the ECNL. Just my 2 cents. Enjoy the spring season.
Yes find a new wife!
How can anyone hate this board - Some really funny reads sometimes.I agree the best team isn't always the champion happens in every report - that's why the discussions are so great and heated sometimes.To your point - MF lost in semi-Finals @30th Annual Bethesda Thanksgiving Tournament-Girls - the reason they didn't get points is because the even only put 6 teams in the flight if they added 2 more teams then GS would have given points to the Semi-Finals as well.I know GS isn't perfect but it gives you a list to either move teams up or down if this is your cup of tea. Remember the best team doesn't always win - but isn't that makes sport and post season events so special an 8 seed can win a title and be number 1 even if they weren't during the regular season. But that's the playoff/event system.That's why I love ONE Table/Standing for the entire season the team on top at the end is the Champion. Not the "hot team"#2
i agree with list except for TSF.
So #2, you think league standings at the end of season are more accurate?I understand teams getting GS points for winning tournament games. Therefore, if you play more tournaments you have a better chance to get more points. Did EDP teams get GS points for regular season games, actually double points?I don't agree that teams that have the most GS points are the best teams. Some teams have more chances to get the points.
NJSA is a combination of East Brunswick and Manalapan.
TSF is a good team.
Have the kid talk to the wife. Have the coach talk to the wife. Respect for others' interests needs to be established. Your wife needs to understand your daughter is her own person.
DTS Winter Invitational Girls 2014The first two Spring 2014 Outdoor GamesSaturday, March 01, 2014YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES 1 LOWER MERION SC HERRICANES 0 NJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDAR 2 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO 1
I think it also depends alot on what the teams focus is too. Tournaments/cup games are a completely different beast than regular league games are treated on some teams. I mean what team would not have their best players in a cup game as say playing extra time for the 11-16 girls in a league game
Some more DTS scores.HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO 4 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES 1 NJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDAR 3 LOWER MERION SC HERRICANES 2 #2
Region 1 Colonial friendlies - no 12:00 Score Posted.PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE 0 BRYC 01 ELITE 212:00 PMRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMPA CREW ACADEMY BLUEBRYC 01 ELITE 0 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 0#2
Rage 3 PA Crew 1
http://maxsportscenter.ezleagues.ezfacility.com/leagues/202872/U12-Girls.aspxNice showing by STA yesterday
Nice wins. Was crush and crush orange, tsunami split up in two teams? Or was it crush a and b teams?
Arsenal got screwed yesterday by the refs.
It was 5aside STA. Stop bragging over indoor soccer STA. Let every team in NJ bring their top 7 kids only to these events and then see how you do.
Anyone else would have, especially Crush. Nice wins.
Crush lives on this board, except when asked a question or they lose.
Second tier academy beats up on Crush Copter. Does anyone really care?
Crush is second tier too, that is why all their best players always leave. I hope the beating was the second team?If we don't hear from them, then we know.
STA might be another option come tryout time this springYes I am with one of the so called top program 5 programs
Yes, option for a travel league player to move up to a second tier academy.
That's good, we need more of these type of clubs.There needs to be one more premiere club. Wcfc is still second tier in my book, they just aren't at the levels if PDA and then MF. I would like to see 4 total, all equal.
Are you saying that STA would be a better option than World?
I would suggest you get another book, because I Was a Middle-Age Moron is currently out of circulation...
NoI just think world has a ways to go and it would be nice to have some other clubs move up in status.The u14 are great, but that is it.Crush has one solid team, u15.
Crush is on board. I guess they are upset with staGood job sta
What do you think of their u12 team?
Jury still out. Same as u11 and u13. Older teams are all very average as well. I want them to be solid, just don't see it yet. Crush is similar, the u13 have dropped to average. u11, u14, u16 and 17 are all town level teams. U12 looks good, but jury still out. The u13 team was similar last year on blog, don't hear from them anymore.We need a really solid club from northern counties.
NJSA Cedar Stars are Looking Good for this Spring.
Tryouts to attend for players:CRUSHMFITNJX/MFPDA STORMPDA AJAXRAGESTAWC
Guys Indoor really. STA wins indoor so does GFA. This means absolutely nothing. STA is a very average team at best.
11:39 What No PDA Storm/Dragons? Why not?Ajax looks like it's going to be the R1 premier Team come u13 this FALL Which will put them on the National League track. Storm we all know will be the ECNL team leaving the Dragons as the NPL team. ALl 3 are good options.MF well see PDA - they will have the same set and so will World Class. That's just going to happen each one of these Clubs will have 3 options for it's players depending on level of play.Lot's of Crush hate - but I for one am jealous of all the tournaments they played in - you can say what you want about their level of play - but they do travel and that's all you can ask for as a travel parent, if the training is good of course it's a good option. STA/NJSA are also NPL teams just like Crush which gives them a pathway to NPL if they can get some depth they can also take the R1 road. All great Options. Rage is taking the R1 option and I don't know if a club league is in their cards. So I agree putting results aside all these clubs will have opportunities for their players AND we all know there are others not on your list - that will just depend on geography.PS. I am a huge fan of a league playing Fall/Spring (one season) with home and away games to determine a champion for that league. This is why I love the NPL model so much - you then take those League Champions and let them play each other to determine a champ for that season - not the best team - just an Event Champion.#2
#2 I know you do not provide any feedback on your club. Based on readings, I have to say you are from PDA.Made several comments that tend to lean this way.
Kick and run doesn't work indoor
I don't think #2 is from PDA but I do think he is leaning this way for his number #1.And then probably MF.Thats seems to be the best choices if his daughter is going to be a significant contributor.You then work your way from there.I believe most parents who have kids that are serious about their soccer will make the same choice.And no, I am not a PDA parent but my child is a significant player on one of these top 4 teams.(that do not include PDA or MatchFit)CrushRageNJXIGFASTA.
These so called avg teams at best are at least trying to make the jump into the big time by continuing to play and get better. These teams just need some more depth like the other poster said. Indoor/outdoor I wish my team was doing what the so called avg teams are doing
I agree, I have a daughter that plays for a very good team. I would lean towards MF personally. Main reason is that I believe she will get a fair shot at this club. I had an older daughter that played for PDA, too many politics involved in decisions on playing time and who makes A team
#2Current NPL model doesnt have home and aways, other than for 3 teams in your division.It would have to be 30 games for the 16 teams........and that is too many.
12:19RAGE - you are not from Rage to far southNJX- possibly, I do think NJX parents are pleased with future pathIGFA- two girls, one is coaches kid and other parent does not anything about blogsSTA- just have the new player, to new to scene to be postingCRUSH- this is where you child plays for!
Re: STA and indoorUsing the eye test, this club may be staying around longer than you thinkAs someone said expertly, depth is a key. Getting girls to tryouts going forward will tell the tale. But their 8 v 8 core is quite talented.....and I guess they just got a top player down from the upper division (not sure if that was one of the talented group that played yesterday)I am pulling for them because they play, coach and cheer with CLASS.
12:51.What difference does it make in which club my daughter plays for at this time?
If you list a bunch of teams, then people with dissect it.
STA does a great job with getting kids to their programs. Problem is not getting them there. Its keep them.You see at all the older age groups, kids leave. Wait and see, U13 team is already looking elsewhere. There is no path for older kids.
STA just average in NPL league right now. Put the talk to rest
To the poster who said he thinks his daughter will get a fair shot at MatchFit.You better do some more homeworkPDA politics are far better than the road that that MF will take you down
It looks like NJSA is a bunch of girls two timing on their home teams,... think this happened a few years ago with wildcats and freehold...could this be driven by the same person?
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