12:56 Thought I explained it in my 12:33 post. Am guessing you feel games do matter now. Don't think any opinion I give will (or should) change your mind.I think a lot of coaches play to win in SC and tournaments. You can keep feeding your "star players" because they are faster and stronger than most at this age.A good coach/club will use regular season games to give all players the opportunity to learn and contribute. A coach has a responsibility to train everybody on the team.
we are in the age of 'everyone is a winner' and 'it doesn't matter if you win or lose, but how you play the game'. We are preparing our children for a swift kick in the nuts when they leave the protected cacoon we created for them. Unfortunately, it will be too late once they realize that on average real life rewards those that work hard, don't make excuses and strive to 'win'(ie: getting a job, a promotion, being successefull entreprenuer, etc). However, they won't always win... and they won't be prepared to 'lose'. they will be left looking around for people to bail them out and be left wondering why they weren't 'handed that job'. They will have no idea how to pick themselves up, dust off and work even harded. I'm already seeing it with the 20-somethings that work for me. the message to my daughter - winning does matter. when you get knocked on your ass (losing a starting spot, not making a team, not getting a grade at school, etc),evaluate what happened, learn from it, work hard and win next time. then wash, rinse, repeat for the rest your life. you're not in life for a participation medal!
"Development High Horse", yes, lets get away from that. Lets kick the ball down the field and let the fastest girl get there first. The team with the fastest girl is the best soccer team. Spot on, my friend!
Who said anything about not training everyone. But if these kids traveled 6+ hours to play in a tournament - do you think they want to come home with anything less than a championship?I think games matter for the platform the team is playing in.If it's a league game with no advancement - then yes everyone should play - playing time earned during training sessions, like everything else.If it's a league game or an event with further advancement - you are telling me you want a kid who doesn't give their all or is not at the same level of the rest of the team to play important minutes to learn on the job? Doesn't the coach give the kids an opportunity to earn their minutes. You know show up to practice and train a game speed instead of I don't know joking around or maybe not caring as much?There are kids that show up every day and give it 100% every day - they do that to compete, why would the coach not try to reward that?
I agree, look at SC and tournaments. The better teams are all there because they used their best players to win. I agree with this idea.
Of course league play matters.Every coach and player tries their best in every game. Every team strives to finish in first place in their league. To say less is disingenuous. You don't pick the games you are going to try your best in.12:15 and 12:27 spot on in saying PDA claims they only tried hard in the games they won. What a crock! Do you really think anyone is buying that baloney. Would any of us accept that excuse from any of the other teams on this blog .
What team are you talking about with the daddy coach
No club or team says they didn't try or the game doesn't matter when they win.The only time you see this rationalization is when one of the strong teams has a unexpected loss.Better to just credit the winning side as being better on that day and move on.
Hey 10:43 you can kiss my fanny pack!!
02:44 Sorry buddy, I call 'em like I see 'em!
yes 10:34 is the nasty troll again.Makes an innocuous prediction as cover than starts his attack.tedious, transparent, redundant.
I know I am going to get killed for saying this, but I sincerely believe this with all my heart. My daughters team plays a superior brand of soccer, compared to most of our opponents, and although we may not win every game, we are competitive in every game. There is some BS going around about playing the right way, its not about right or wrong, its about dedication, effort, and most importantly, talent, which is the one variable you cannot control.
2:44 once again is the nasty troll posing as a parent again.Pay him no mind. He has multiple personality disorder.He is very bitter and lives to sow evil.
Yes you want to win all games but league games are behind SC and tournaments. Bench players always tend to get more minutes during regular league games. Keeps everyone happy and validates payments by these kids. You still expect to win but during SC and tournaments the bench always shortens a bit. This has gone on forever in this sport......
I agree with 3:11. Some clubs even have it written into their policy.
I live in south NJ and I am looking to have my daughter make the jump to a bigger club at U13. I went to see SJB, Ajax and Rage (saw both the recent Rage Ajax games - I would have liked to see them play on the Tuckahoe fields or turf to get a better idea). I agree with the boards assessment on SJB. They have a few real solid players and seemed to be trained well, but they lack the depth. I think Rage has a couple/few girls that stand out and could play on most top teams in the state/region, but not sure the style of play is what I would want long term. Ajax seemed more balanced and played well as a team. I will be checking out these teams tryouts as well as Atlantic. I think that covers the options for higher end clubs in the south, unless anyone has another suggestion?
wildcats are in the south
If your kid is a good player and wants to have upper end options PDA South is really your only choice.....
@318.....all good options including Wildcats. Your daughter would develop very well there too. PDA has a new thing going with Toms River - PDA South - that you might want to look into. Contact the clubs & specifically speak with the coaches. They'll invite you to practice with the team exclusive from a formal tryout, most of which have taken place already. Gives your daughter chance to meet girls on the team & better exposure to the coach. I don't see how you can go wrong with any of those clubs/teams. I have seen them all/played against.Good luck.
heard from someone who ws there tht pda shore had no new strong players at tryouts.only players already on toms river u12 team.
Thank you 3:30, 3:39, 3:52. I will start tomorrow at Ajax and see how she fits from there.
PDA Ajax, Rage, SJEB, NJ Force then PDA Shore. Would be my order, good luck!
Definitely talk to the coaches and have her practice with the team. It's tough to gauge a team/club from watching a few games. What's important is that she is comfortable with the coach and players and you agree with the coaching philosophy.
I have always heard good things about SJEB and that is one of the teams I am considering for my daughter, so we went to watch them play yesterday against FC Copa.I don't know if they had a bad day yesterday or if Copa is that much better but the game wasn't even close. 4-0 and it could have been a lot worse.
PDA Ajax, Rage, SJEB, NJ Force then PDA Shore. Would be my order, good luck! Agreed.
I can't say that I would go to Rage over SJE.The team is parent coached. Depending on how you feel about that. May change your decision.Rage has some physical girls.I don't see much skill in there play.Sje few solid girls good academy.I personally like the way the coach is training his girls.My order would be PDA,SJE,Rage,Force.Tryout for all and see where your daughter feels most comfortable.
With pda shore as my last choice.
I posted the original note at 3:18. I appreciate the constructive replies. North seems to have more options, but South has a few good ones.Thanks much
4:42 you are a copa guy please stop.
@9:36 I never hear a peep about that club here - that score is logged on the EDP site. Sounds like your a SJEB guy..
As far as "parent coaches" believe it or not there are some parent coaches who may be more qualified and more experienced than some academy trainers who you shell out the big bucks for. I know of several town team coaches who have played for D1 schools and have such a love of the game that they want to stay involved with the sport but not make it a career. No matter where you go, ask what the coaches experience is. You might be surprised to find that some academy trainers ended their soccer careers in high school!
If you're paying top dollar for a program the coach should be a Pro. Someone who is a full time trainer/ coach, takes part in regular coaching development, is exposed to new techniques, collaborates with DOCs and peers. I believe a club should have a standard philosophy where the team isn't so dependent on the coach and any coach can take over.
So which clubs do not follow this guideline, 9:21?Even the dad coaches often mentioned on this board are licensed, continue their soccer education, etc.....Which clubs have so called SHAM coaches in charge of these 12 year olds?
I can't imagine what the response to this request will be, but I'd ask that we stop with the "I saw 5 girls from so-and-so at this tryout last night" gossip? This process is stressful enough for parents and players. You don't need the additional fear of being exposed to your current club if it doesn't work out. Sometimes you just want to take a chance to see if something better is out there. I don't think you'd be thrilled if you were applying for a different job at a competitor of your current company and someone told your current boss they saw you. I know we're not naming names, but sometimes that can be just as damaging. My daughter has enough to worry about without some spiteful jackass parent with an agenda on some anonymous blog.Grow up.
8:20 I agree with you - but I don't think qualifications are the issue people are talking about. It's the perception of why is this happening oh it must be because the coaches kid this, the coaches kid that, and that player is friends with the coaches kid so this is why this is happening. True or False doesn't matter once one person starts to think that way - that can easily spread and when you throw in competition for minutes played, positions played, the amount of money parents pay is more the issue that qualifications to most.Yes we can talk Bradley and the USMNT, but that's another conversation for another day and doesn't apply to youth soccer apples to oranges.1. Youth Soccer parents pay for their kids to play and develop into Pros.2. USMNT already making a living with soccer already getting paid - so is he an All Star or not is more the question and with Bradley that was never an issue because Michael is an All Star.
Anyone can get a coach's license.Just pass a background check,sit through a two hour class that has more to do with bullying and such than soccer.Then here's the coaches license.Please don't make it seem so hard.Just because you can get a soccer license doesn't mean you can train a team.
I for one would rather have a coach "without a horse in the race" so to speak.Just my opinion of the matter.
If you are worried about the coach finding out you had your daughter at another tryouts.It's obviously for fear of retaliation on your daughter.Which is saying you are in the WRONG place.I am not a betting man.But I would place odds that coaches that do something like that are parent coached.They seem to take things a lot more personal.Instead of professional.
9:24 do your own research. I didn't say anything about SHAM coaches.. Just stating my opinion. If you are paying top dollar your kids should be receiving top dollar training and coaching from a pro who has all the resources available to him/her to do the best possible job developing your child. I wouldn't want to pay 2-3K for a yelling daddy coach. "Licenses" are easily obtainable. True professional development of training is something completely different.
It's a valid point to be concerned about being seen at different tryouts. I can tell you for a fact a couple teams will be surprised when 3 to 4 girls leave their teams this summer. These players didn't go to team tryouts. They played against, trained with or have friends on the new team. It happens every year. Everybody should have a second option for their daughter.
A coach being upset about you going to another tryout, is like a player being upset that there are new players trying out for her team.Spots offered and Player Acceptances are not guaranteed. It goes both ways. You don't owe these coaches anything. Just pay your bill on time, get your kid to practice on time and make whatever decision works best for you.
Well said 958.I totally agree.
Parent coaches tend to take things personally when issues arise between their child and others on team. Whether it being left out of cliques or not being given the ball on the field because they are not trusted. The parent coach will get involved and sometimes those kids are punished either by being yelled at by parent coach or put into positions they hardly play or not being played at all. Parent coaches also will play their child in prime positions even though they are not skilled enough for the position. That child would not be playing those positions if they were on another team. So yes it can be a problem to have a parent coach. Myself, I would avoid clubs with parent coaches, but to each his own. Just my opinion .
Look, I didn't say it was right or wrong and I didn't ask for your blind analysis of my situation on my current team. All I asked was for some consideration for my daughter and many other girls at this time of year. I feel comfortable with our team. I like my daughter's coach. But there ARE better options and it's worth exploring. I'm just asking you not to create problems where they don't need to be created. Am I asking to much or does the gossip send a thrill up your leg?
9:33 You're a clownThat's a Rutgers course for rec coaches. We are talking about more extensive licensing.
Since we are on Tryouts - let's say that you go to a club to tryout that has a A and B team. Both Coaches are qualified, the B team Coach has coached at a higher level and has played the game at a higher level.Doing my research on the two teams using GS and their leagues website.The B team selected better events for their players but were not flighted in the top flights but I can see that changing if they have some good results. The A team played in weaker events and racked up some hardware by killing the teams they played and also have a player with the same last name as the coach does that make a difference? When comparing common opponents not much of a difference in the score line.So if your kid is offered a spot on the A team, what do you do? To me everything I was able to research screamed the B team is the place to be. But they are still just that the B team and from what I read on this board the B team never gets any love from the A team or the club.Does it really matter if you are on the A team or the B team of a club that doesn't play NPL or ECNL. I understand that if the club does play in those leagues you would want to be on the A team.What do you guys think always A?
Most kids that have their parent as a coach can not play at the level they are at. The only reason they are on the field and playing as much as they are is because of their coach mom or dad. Just saying. Maybe 1 or 2 exceptions
10:32 Do you think that can cloud the decisions a coach makes in regards to rosters and events? I would want my kid getting exposure playing against the best teams and the only way they can do that is if they are a strong team and are developed individually and as a team so as they get older and when results do matter in regards to being in the top flights of showcase events they are in the top flights to get max exposure and can showcase their talents as soccer players
10:36 even if when it's time for showcase events - the weaker events are picked?
In my world ECNL and NPL are not options.So can a B team ever develop more than the A team and become a better team in a Non ECNL - NPL environment.What do Region 1 leagues look at?Playing in top flights of leagues and being at the bottom of the table or playing in lower flights and being at the top of the table?Playing in weaker tournaments to declare yourself as champion on an Application in stead of playing in tougher tournaments with nothing to show?I guess the answer will always be A regardless of how a good a situation the B team might be.
This has to be one of the most boring days in long time for this blog! Not one post made me laugh or angry.
That's a welcomed break. Enjoy it!
How does one "enjoy" boredom?
Simple - it means all the hacks went away and just maybe all the negative comments went away with them at least for half a day. But I bet you are about to post something though to head us back in that direction or at least thinking about it if this actually is boring to you.
Well then 12:48, lets start with NJX v. IGFA game tonight. Cold temps expected to be in 40s & windy. Chance for rain gives advantage to IGFA they sneak out with a 2-1 win. How's that?
Don't stop keep going with the NJX comeback now, you know one post isn't enough you are a vet - you know how it works.
How does rain give them the advantage? Are they waterproof?
and so it begins
That's a serious question? Both teams are playing on the same field in same weather.. how does rain/wind benefit one team over another?
Who really cares about tonights outcome. They very well be playing each other next weekend in sc semis
Let's not forget we are talking about top academy's.More and more coaches at these levels do happen to be Dad's or Mom's. Soccer is becoming more and more popular, allowing more people to get into the business. Nothing wrong at all in my opinion with parent coaches. top academy's will not allow any trainer to get out of line.World Class- Dad coach- we all agree top team in region. Match Fit- Dad coach- we all agree top team in region.PDA- has a Dad coach and assistant- regardless Storm top team in region, Dragons doing very wellRage- Dad Coach- team performs well, a little behind programs mentioned above. Still good teamParisppany- Dad Coach- Team doing well in NPL leagueNJX- Mom coach- ok you got me there. Manalapan- Mom coach- for town team, doing very well.Personally, no issue with Parent coach as long as kids are learning and playing at a high level. All teams mentioned above are playing at a high level. (I am forgetting another team)
As to the question about weather, wet balls, shoes and surfaces will more greatly affect a team that relies on short passes to feet along the ground, than a team that plays more direct relying on balls over the top, or into corners, where runners adjusting to the ball's movement in space is already part of their game plan. I'm not commenting on the relative merits of the playing styles. And certainly a quality team needs to be learn to adjust their style to the playing conditions, but in reality that level of mental maturity isn't necessarily there at this age.- EE
@146.....couldn't agree with you more. Regular season is meaningless. It's all in the State Cup & high level tournaments. Foolish to think otherwise. I'd much rather my daughter's team win NJ State Cup & some of the higher quality tournaments (Jefferson Cup for example) than EDP in Spring.
2:04 What if Spring EDP was really Spring EDL with 1st place going to the NPL Champions National Event.Would the league game become more important and the high level tournament be more of a warm up to try and get the right formations/player combos?Would you value a SC over a national Event?
149, you became the authority ... When?
Regional, really? Please, go back to your nap, and keep dreaming...
2:15, both are important, and our club would want to win both, its that simple.
2:04 Troll you are so obvious and full of bs.how could such highly competitive league play be meaningless.If that is the case why spend all this money and travel often over 1 or 2 hours each way to play the best competition.Might as well have stayed in local leagues if league games are meaningless. Or play friendlies and not keep score or standings, and not have points on the line,that would be a lot cheaper.your agenda is obvious as always and as ignorant as ever.All these fiercely contested, competitive league games between the top teams in the state are meaningless.1:46 and 2:04 comments both from the posing Troll again asking his own set up questions and then answering them himself.All the money, time and effort over the years to create MAPS, Region 1 leagues and now NPL, EDP and ECNL were all meaningless and unnecessary according to 1:46 and 2:04. You really think these girls try any less in their league games against their biggest instate rivals? you better believe they want to beat each other every time they match up.Players don't reach this elite level without that type of competitive spirit and pride when playing against their in-state rivals.
My daughters team plays hard and tries to win every time they step on the field.If i noticed anything less than a full effort by the players and coach I would move her off the team as I don't believe you can turn it on and off.Young players must learn to give their best effort every time they step on the field and play with pride vs every opponent.Is it more OK to get beat or give up goals in league play than sc or tournaments? What kind of message would that send by the coach to a young, developing player.Not the message I want my daughter to hear from her coach.Don't fool yourself they will need to develop a competitors/warriors mentality if they are to achieve the high goals they have for themselves in soocer in the coming years.
2;03 agreed but knowing both teams i am not sure who really gets an advantage related to weather tonight. hopefully it will be a good game. Both teams have qualities and skills. I am glad i am not out there tonight though. good luck
The new EDP league was put together due to a LACK of meaningful competitionTo now say it is not meaningful is just a sack of crap.
Two of the parent coaches listed have kids capable of playing at the level that they are at. Will leave it at that. The rest built the teams around their kid
So the top team in each u12 EDP division are going to Nationals? For Fall and Spring?
2:41 exactly the case. A desire for more competitive and meaningful league games was the reason for the formation of all the elite leagues mentioned above over the last 15 years.All created due to top teams seeking more competition week to week .It is only thru games vs top competition that elite players can develop. And of course they have to go all out and play their hardest for that development to occur. That means competitive league games are always meaningful.That's why they keep score. And of course league results have a major impact on acceptance and flighting at competitive tournaments. If you look at criteria on tournament web site and gotsoccer you will see that league play is given a high priority in accepting, flighting and ranking of teams.
No one said u12 going to Nationals, the question was if the league games reward the champion with a ticket to nationals.PS. EDL or EDP NPL starts at u13 and the winner goes to nationals in July. PS the season will run September through June just like other two NPLs I would imagine
If you want to get into flighting, then why did the delco flights change all of a sudden? Did someone make a phone call?
1:49Boca & Wildcats.
I believe that Delco states the flights are 'preliminary'. Expect more changes between now and Memorial Weekend.
I didn't pay attention to Delco flights the first time around. Are they significantly different? What new match ups are you questioning?
Looks like they switched njx and mf. Just like they did for spirit. Guess mf which is the so called a team, wants no part of breakers. Grass isnt always greener. Becareful of what you ask for coach. Samething occurred for spirit. How did that turn out for you
Looks like they swapped NJX and Match Fit (Delco brackets)Match Fit now plays TFA (Ohio), East Meadow and NJ CrushNJX plays Breakers, WestChester United and World ClassWildcats play South Shore Elite, Crew Juniors (Ohio) and Maryland United
2:41 you couldn't be more wrong.. the D in EDP is for development. The league was formed with player development in mind.
If a team hasn't win a single game in EDP do they get kicked out for "lack of development?"
You are correct, 3:42Part of development is COMPETING.And well....... in competition you keep score.These games are played to win. You may not see a team WHOLE in some games, but coaches are looking for the W, while developing the talent across the roster (read: kids PLAY, yo dont have a player getting just 5 minutes)
Who is the better Ohio team?
Come on Man!Ok MF organized the groups at Delco, get off your high house.NJX is a physical team, I am sorry, not technically skilled teamBlack vs NJX for ECNL, which team beat PDA? UMMMM Black not NJX.I attended tryouts, I hope my kids makes Black team. Will drive up North as well. Those players move the ball and are advanced in technical skills. If you attended the tryouts, we as parents picked out better players of Black in minutes. NJX struggled in small sided format. Long ball was not an option.I will end with Come on Man!
Hey, NJX parent. Your prediction of 8 njx players making MF Black ECNL team looking less and less likely.Looks like NJX parents were sold some swamp land in Florida by Match Fleece to keep the $$$ coming for another year.
10:08 then why did MF get the Black tam switched with njx and into weaker bracket in both Spirit and Delco tournaments. What is the reason in your opinion?Please address this issue directly and stop darting around the edges.If Black is so much better why don't they play in the harder brackets?If the 2 teams are not yet affiliated then why were they the 2 who were switched in both cases over the last 10 months.It hasn't happened to any other teams in those tournaments.Are you saying coincidence?I think not. It stinks to high heaven and is unfair to the NJX girls.
In defense of NJX: tough team who will play anybody. U haven't seen them back away from a challenge. They play everyone and they usually compete very well. Most teams will not have the same technical ability. It's all about the training and can Match Fit trainers make these players better?
It's starting already and only gonna get worse as you go with MFWant no part of this mess good luck to those that sign up
10:08Come on man! Stop riding MF Black.
"How was the turnout for PDA tryouts?"PDA Storm & Dragon tryouts are not until May 13 & 15
Ajax were tonight.
Notice Match Fleece posing as njx parent claiming they have no problem driving up north to play for Black team(Denville?).Better quit your job if you are going to make that commute 3 times per week. Your daughter will be doing a lot of homework in your car.
Screw matchfit for asking for the switch, screw delco for obliging. Drop out of both and stay njx, your better off. You can play better teams on your own then Npl. It is proven by Delco and Spirit and Massachusetts tournament
Short sighted once again..... you will have a mix of decent teams for U13 but once again, talent level at NE NPL much stronger than NPL and it is all about U14. There will be more NJX kids on the Ecnl U14 team than current MF black kids. Mark it down now......
Reason NJX is in top flight at Delco is that they were in the finals of last year's tourney in top bracket.... MF Falcons/black were not. What is the surprise?? Give it a rest already.... Worry about getting your own team to the finals this year..... BTW, IGFA a good team but not in same league as the top 5 in this age group....
What was the score?
Shady deals already from mf. Being treated like a real B team.
Guess NJX won, good for them, IGFA is a pretty good squad, did NJ’s best midfielder play for GFA?
I didn't know mf black was the ECNL team? Has that been decided? Another question, what makes you think NJX players want to play on MF Black? You may want your kid to play there and that is fine. I think NJX is moving in the right direction and they have accomplished a lot as a team. Why split that team up? What has MF Black accomplished?
No need to guess!
NJ's best mid fielder plays for PDA.
Dear Amazing Kreskin,So can you tells us what the damn score was?
Pretty far from "best" player people. Whoever said that does not see the top 5 teams play that often....... Good player but really??Love how people with no clue comment on MF. I am sorry it did not work out for you.... I know, you would have said no to them if your child was asked to join...... Lol! Worry about your own place.
Yeah, you said that before, sorry, you stated that before, and its possible, but its also rebatable.
Thank you, without seeing the game, it appears to be a tough competitive game, and at this age its really ALL you should be looking for, that and no serious injuries, and its all good.
I cannot believe these two teams flights were changed again. Someone is connected with Delco for this to keep happening.
Sounds like MF is controlling things already, I have no idea, but that makes the most sense, doubt Delco would move without pressure from the club.Am I wrong?
What are you talking about? NJX and MF are both in top flight at Delco. Just different brackets. Bracket A is weakest bracket. If they had a connection, wouldn't they have asked to be in that one?? Just play and stop complaining....
Daddy,Daddy, Daddy, Why am I going to new team tryouts again? We've only been with our new team for two months. I thought we only leave mid season.
What kind of parent would do that to their daughter after only a few months being on a new team and tryout elsewhere.
Switching Wildcats with NJX wold be properLet Wildcats, lower ranked in NJ, deal with BreakersWhen you think of it its unfair for Breakers to have to play Jersey's best in bracket as well.Wildcats also played Crew Juniors already in VA. I think tourney directors should track this, so that at the bigger events teams from different states dont play each other again so soon.
Switch Wildcats and Boca.Did the whole NJX team switch to MF. Did any players leave? If they stayed intact, they could be the ECNL team. They are going to be ranked #1 in NJ with the combination of SC points and a high EDP finish this spring
2 games played in less than a week. 2 predictions and 2 losses.
8:57- Daddy says.. "If you don't stop asking all these questions I will bring you to the Wildcats. I am serious, I will do it"
Parents deserve a RED card.
http://www.socceramerica.com/article/57398/coordinated-tryout-process-would-help-relieve-spri.htmlHopefully this will happen in NJ
Would be nearly impossible to coordinate, and limit one's ability to attend multiple tryouts.
Please remove posts at 8:57 and 9:07Thanks
Well hopefully mf gets through their easier bracket and njx gets through and let the 2 meet, once and for all. Daddy coach vs mommy coach
MF trainers have been running and coaching NJX for quite some time now.....
What will happen next year when MF is in Pre-ECNL and no results will be posted anywhere? Guess will have to find Some other clubs to bash.
"MF trainers have been running and coaching NJX for quite some time now....."Have they been running them longer than the MF trainers and coaches for the MF Jaguars?
didn't we already establish in an early post that Jaguars still have the same non-MF coach running things and the only thing that changed was the name on their jersey (and maybe the fees they pay?)12:43 you are tiresome and redundant.
MF Falcons and Jaguars have the same coach.
12:59- I thought Jaguar coach was also the Falcon coach?So you are saying that NJX already has MF trainers and Jaguars only got the uniforms? Serious question,
For an earlier question, you do not pay a deposit for PDA. You usually pay the full amount in August.
from the 12:21 post I read that NJX now has been using a MF trainer. From a post a few days previous I read that Jags kept their coach but switched their jerseys, choosing not to avail themselves of MF trainers. And thanks to 1:06 I now know that Jags and Falcons have the same original coach.There is danger in believing what one reads on this blog, but I do try to divine fact from fiction. Not everyone who posts is a crackpot.
Therein lies the challenge...deciphering the crackpots from the genuine posts
1:12- I posted the @1:06- I don't know if it is the same coach, I thought it was.Really trying to understand the MF thing?-Falcons are coached and trained by MF-NJX trained by MF and coached by a parent-Jaguars dont have any MF training or coaching, just wear the uniform?I am not trying to stir it up, I am really curious how MF works. It appears they don't have a standard system?
Sounds like the soccer mafia
http://www.matchfitacademy.net/MFCFCGirlsClubTeams/index_E.htmlHere you can see coaches of MF teams.
NJX is like all other top teams. Top 8-9 kids NOBODY can argue. It is the last few and the bench that you can argue. Like that everywhere.I will take their results over every other U12 NJ team other than PDA. Your bashing once again validates you are below looking up. Enjoy.....
Both MatchFit Falcons Black and NJX are parent coached. 1 is a mommy and 1 is a daddy.
12:59. We have established:-the Falcon and Jaguar coaches are the same, as per the website-you are a dope-the Jaguar parents and players have been seriously neglected or duped.
Mommy Daddy what team am I playing for next year? Do you think that will be my last team?
Sounds like a big mess Not just this age group either with MF Sure they have a few good teams, but I think the problems with some of their teams and trainers are starting to outweigh the good teams
I think the problems with MF are greatly exaggerated by disgruntled parents of former players. I have a friend whose daughter plays there, and while there are some annoyances, it doesn't sound as nearly as bad as you all make it out to be.
Lots of wanna be's on this blog.....
I agree 3:14
Match Fit lost their entire U12 team a couple years back. Now at SDFC
Why are there so many disgruntled players/parents?. Jaguars are proof they don't cut anybody.
The Jaguar punchline, is a valid point. Why is there such a huge drop off for that team?. They currently only have 2 teams in this age group. Whats going to happen next year when they have 3 in this age group. Plus, they are selling the ECNL ticket at every age group. How are they going to get enough qualified trainers, especially if they are going to train ECNL teams in different locations?Not enough qualified coaches, trainers or facilities to sustain a successful girls program, boys already fell apart.
Boys didn't fall apart due to trainers, boys fell apart because DA is now enforcing the free tuition rule on DA team. It's an unaffordable model for many clubs without an MLS sponsorship and MF isn't, or won't be, the only casualty.
Falcons already in disarray as 3 current players not coming back next year. Near impossible to replace these quality girls. Best of luck to you.
I can't believe how obsessed some are with a U12/13 soccer team that they have no affiliation with.
Falcons losing players?
Obsessed with NJX, Falcons and Storm. The crush, wildcats and force all try to stay relevant. The Wildcats are doing great this season.
Tryout time is even crazier than normal times in youth soccer universe. Tryout for any team you want and leave the others be.No need to trach every team in nj on this site.It seems no team escapes unscathed.
Could we get back to discussing soccer and what has been happening on the field? And the upcoming games and events?
NJ cup this weekend.JPS vs. PDA Ajax 2-1 PDATSF vs. PDA Storm 5-0 PDAIGFC vs. PDA Dragons 3-1 PDANJX Vs. Force 2-0 NJXAny other opinions?
I think NJX-NJ Force will go PKsIGFA 1-0 vs DragonsAjax 1-0 as wellStorm-TSF? No idea.
predicting another win by IGFA. Can they go 0-3. I guess if you keep picking them to win eventually you will get it right
Storm will be playing keep away for the last 20 minutes
6:17 Storm will not be playing keep away for the last 20 minutes, they will be playing keep away for the last 30+ minutes. NJX beats Force easily too - 3 goal differential at least. IGFA - Dragons is a tossup. Ajax wins I agree.
This spring's State Cup a great advertisement for PDA. 3 of the final 8 from PDA, the results speak for themselves. So if you are looking to tryout still, where is the "must" place to go & see if your daughter stacks up with the top program in NJ & one of top in the country?
Players not coming back to black are most likely not being asked back. Tryouts time, this is what happens parents who did not make it are upset, come on here and provide false info. This will happen for many other clubs as well
6:58.. That all depends on where you live. Storm will always be the top team in PDA. Dragons will always be the minor league team for the Storm. Not to say the Dragons won't be a great team. they will but if you want a very good team down south AJAX is the place to play.
7:23... welcome to the club. That has been happening to many teams on here by upset parents. If people are not talking about your team good or bad that means your team is probably not a threat
Agreed 7:33, good points. Will be interesting to see how PDA South makes out next season.
Any good players turn up at PDA South tryouts last night? How many players do they need?
@459.....Wildcats are doing great this season, really? If you mean regular season than I agree - so far (they have few difficult EDP games left to play). However, facts are facts - they got eliminated early in State Cup from a team that is not even top 20 in the State & did not do well at Jefferson Cup playing in a lower flight against some out of state U11 teams. Most folks would agree they are NOT doing "great this season".
Two Players not coming back to MF because of commute. All are starters on this years team. When MF moves down south for training kids will return.
@7;50. that may be true but they beat the PDA storm 2-0.The coach did a great job in neutralizing them and their ground attack.Brilliant just brilliant.Field was perfect call and their backs played right over the top and their players were relentless.Good team in their own system
"Two Players not coming back to MF because of commute. All are starters on this years team. When MF moves down south for training kids will return."If this true then what will north players do when the team trains down South?
I didn't realize the Jaguars and Falcons had the same coach. There is no way the MF Jaguar coach can coach an ECNL team.
MF will be a different team when ever they decide to move down south where ECNL teams train. That's why this years roster is not going to be ECNL roster at u14. Maybe this why NJX parents are ok with MF, knowing they are the ECNL team of the future.
Another parent coach taking care of his kid having her play at a level way above her head and not allowing a capable player to make the team. Whatever is good for suzie.
First thanks to TR parents for postings. I hear nightmares about one of those parents. Please do not come to play for our team
7:50Since Spirit Wildcats have 38 games played - and just FOUR defeats.
I would also like to know about Ajax tryouts.
LOL 8:30, are you sure your math is correct?
The coach knows his team's record.
Have fun and embrace your "good" season Wildcats. You become Boca when top two kids leave after next season for academy competition. It will happen. Again, you are so short sighted in your thought process...... boca loss and pda win wash each other out. After that, have you made it to any final even of substance? I mean come on man......
& once the top 2 go, so will the middle 4-6. Happens every time.
9:02- They are not even Boca with their top players. They have been terrible. Placed in lower brackets of recent tournaments and not even making the finals.Bounced form SC by Boca says a lot about the "team"Don't even know their own record, look at GS.
I am hearing totally different than being advertised on this blog.Match Fit added several players up North from one of affiliates. One player not asked back, several moved down. Few Jaguars moved up that took place during Spring Season.PDA Shore- Did not have numbers as expectedPDA Storm- having internal issues with new players
Yep 9:02Let the Wildcats enjoy their success now, for noone can tell, with any team, what is around the cornerIn other words, shut your filthy mouth already
How about south tryouts?
9:24 your a MF Dope. The fact that the Falcons took players from the Jaguars and pda c team speaks volumes.The coach is a joke, somebody please explain how that Jaguar team is being trained and coached by MF.
Is it true wildcats only have 13 players? Why? Coach? Not hearing good things.... Hearing he's picking up girls just for numbers....
looked up wildcats record on gotsoccer as you suggested.19 wins3 losses10 tiesI think you confused ties with losses.In the sport of soccer it listed as wins/ties/losses in that order worldwide in all soccer leagues.,not wins/losses/ties/ as in amercian football. Common mistake by a nonsoccer person.
38 games, 4 losses I think is what was said4th loss would be Boca, which is not listed
9:02 and 9:13 is a Nasty Troll . Asks and answers his own questions.Only negative comments, hate and bitterness comes out of his mouth.
Parents always want their kids to play everywhere. When that doesn't happen, It causes friction until kids are cut and final roles are accepted.It starts at pre ecnl and will continue, It will be a bit of a bumpy ride for both matchfit and pda. But as always is the case, kids will go and some will come until core of ECNL team is formed.ECNL teams at u15 will look nothing like current u12 teams.
9:47 is correct.Personal comments about coaches come from disgruntled parents.
"Bumpy road". Lol, PDA has three teams in SC elite eight. MF has ZERO. Jaguars holding a car wash and lemonade stand at NJX game this weekend The Jaguar coach is going to be the ECNL coach , yeah right. Couldn't figure out how to beat Manalapan (without their best player). Stop the PDA and MF comparisons. I sat through a MF sales meeting, all they talked about was PDA. It was comical.
i was talking about handling parent's playing expectations for their daughter.parents always want things to stay as they are-no way that happens for ecnl teams
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