Wednesday, July 1, 2015

U14G / U14 Girls Youth Soccer

U14G  / U14 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

PA Classics joins EDP - with PAC and Rage joining EDP for next fall- Is NPL in the cards?

Anonymous said...

1776 may be joining EDP as well in the fall.

Anonymous said...

EDP Central Division looks pretty weak. NJ Wildcats winning it so far with only 4 matches played. They did poorly in Region 1 Champions league top division.

Anonymous said...

7:24
EDP is a NPL league

Anonymous said...

Who won the MF/Galaxy state cup game?

Anonymous said...

8:35 yes and no. EDP has an NPL flight. Clubs need to be approved by both NPL and EDP

Then you have the EDP
D1 North and Central
D2 North,Central& South
MAPS D1
MAPS D2

Just because you play EDP - doesn't mean you are in a NPL league.

Currently

There are 12 Clubs in EDP NPL. I think PA Classics and Rage would be a nice addition.

Anonymous said...

NJ Cup Final 4
PDA Dragons vs MF NPL
PDA Ajax vs STA

Some expected the F1 NJ Wildcats to make a run at the NJ double since they already have the NCS belt (I was one of them).

Anonymous said...

3 of 4 from last Springs State Cup semis. STA replaces Storm. No surprises.

Anonymous said...

This State Cup actually has competition..... Totally different than NCS. Nobody played in the other one. Love the final four format they do in the one weekend. Good luck to all.

Anonymous said...

6:52 I disagree, NCS was competitive. I agree the best teams were missing but its nice to see other teams advance with a chance to win.

You really want every final 4 to be PDA and MF?

Anonymous said...

Please do not disrespect the level of play with the last four here. Not even close to the level of the last state cup. Quarter finals level of play was a much higher level of competition. As many found out... Call it as it is......

Anonymous said...

Hard to argue that this state cup blew the Fall one out of the water in terms of quality of teams. All that was missing was the Storm and MF ECNL. I think it is interesting to count how many times the teams have been to the State Championship weekend in the Fall and the Spring since going full sided. Says a lot for consistency that 3 of the 4 that are here this year were here last year. You didn't have that in NJYSA State Cup. Yes, Storm isn't there and MF ECNL aren't here but who else was missing?

Anonymous said...

the MF ECNL players played in state cup

Anonymous said...

Which state cup they played in?

Anonymous said...

Enough of the nonsense! MF ECNL players did and are playing in State Cup. All you have to do is look on the rosters. The sad thing is the girls on the team that sit so MF can try to win the cup and put their ECNL players in.

It is what it is, if you dont like it and your on the team, leave! If you dont like it and your not on the team, Tuff "the stuff that comes out of your butt"!

Anonymous said...

STA will take the whole cup

PDA other than storm is over rated
and MF NPL is average at best

Anonymous said...

Difference is that in NON-ECNL clubs the NPL teams/rosters are 18 or less and players dress and play every game and also there are no ECNL players to bring down and take your spot for important NPL matches.
Significant differences.

Anonymous said...

Its also not a true representation of the teams that put ECNL players on roster for state cup.

Listen, that's what PDA and MF have to do to get ahead. Truth is their NPL teams can't cut it.

Blows a huge hole in their theory about how its all about development.

So if they win, no posts about how strong the academy is because its BS.
They are taking their handful of ringers to win the events.

Cheaters way.

Anonymous said...

Funny because if you were at the game you would have seen that all MF girls played plenty.... Keep knocking these final four teams. Bitter people that are involved with teams that are already out usually try to knock the ones that are above them. Happens in all sports.....

Anonymous said...

It all makes sense now why neither PDA or MF ECNL did not apply to NJ Cup.

They knew they were going to do this from the start.

Crap move.

Anonymous said...

It's true. It's basically winning under false pretenses.

Anonymous said...

Dude - nobody is knocking the teams in the Final 4.

Anonymous said...

10:26 You do realize that Storm and MF ECNL have 3 games in South Carolina this weekend right?

I think it's pretty hard for them to be in 2 places at once. I can see the NPL teams using ECNL players that didn't dress since they will probably be NPL next season if they stay with club.

Either way a trip to Indiana will be on the line this weekend with the NJ Cup champion going to the National Cup.

Anonymous said...

We also know that you do not take the full player roster to every event.

Good try.

Anonymous said...

Stop complaining. Like all academies, there are pools of girls under the umbrella. They are used amongst all teams. Deal with it. That is why they are the top of the top most of the time. And if you are not part of that pool, why do you care???

Anonymous said...

PDA will do the same thing. Girls not going to Carolina may show up this weekend. And there is nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous said...

Don't put PDA in the same boat as MF. Only thing in common is that they are both ECNL clubs.

MF uses guest players and brings top ECNL players down to all teams for wins.

PDA has not done this. Everybody mocks their big rosters. They have the depth to field competitive teams through injuries. It allows injured players the opportunity to recover instead of rushing back.

NJ is a very small soccer world. We have seen these girls from U8. Everybody knows who plays on what teams.



Anonymous said...

PDA and MF are not leaving their top ECNL players home this weekend. If players are left behind they are either injured or are going to the NPL team next year.

Anonymous said...

If the rosters are so big, why bring ECNL players to State Cup games???

Anonymous said...

11:14
There is something wrong with that.



its false, its sneaky and in this case you are presenting a false team and then claiming the academy is so strong, when really its just a select few.

FALSE ADVERTISING

Anonymous said...

I agree on the point that state cup games should be original rostered players with no add ons. Rosters should be submitted at entry admission and be final.

If a player is injured or someone comes on board last minute, they sit out.

Just my 2 cents.

Anonymous said...

They all are rostered before the events. A storm goalie has played with Dragons numerous times. Please do not say PDA does not do this..... It is a lie.

Anonymous said...

if you really care to know what is going on in any club, find a parent or someone else on the inside and get the real scoop. While a small amount of what is posted on here is somewhat based in facts and reality, the rest is garbage... I really hope people who aren't in the know aren't turning to this blog for real advice and/or guidance. If you are one of them, forget everything you've read here and ask real people the questions that you have. This blog is like the WWE - it's not real; it's entertainment.

Anonymous said...

Storm players with Ajax in SC

Storm players with Dragons

Matters not that they wont be at semi or final

Is what it is. The secondary teams - and even the supposed separate teams (Ajax) have BOOSTS when necessary

They do not wish to compete on their own merits.

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Anonymous said...

The ONLY team with the constant roster in the final 4 is STA.

Post above... You make posts like that to justify to yourself that all you stated is whats right with this world.

In youth sports including soccer, it should be black and white, not grey! How about the girls that do play all season and sit because the coach brings down the higher level players. How do these girls feel? Oh yeah, they dont matter.


Anonymous said...

There are 2 teams in the semis that competed all spring on their own merit without any other players. Can you name them?

Anonymous said...

The event in SC is an ECNL event, so I'd guess you'll see far less roster mixing this weekend. Both MFA and PDA have very good 3rd teams so I guess you could still see that.

Anonymous said...

Ajax even used pda storm players vs dragons in ne-npl game saturday.
vs their own club they couldn't even let the regular ajax players get all the playing time and get the game experience. don't understand the pda agenda there.

Anonymous said...

Curious to see the turnouts for today.

MF and PDA both holding tryouts.

PDA should have a minimum of 45 girls - so we should see something like 70 girls.

MF should have similar numbers.

Anonymous said...

12:32 not true

You have made some very obvious "adjustments" to your roster.

I don't want to be specific and call out the position. Get off your soap box you hypocrite.

The one thing I liked about STA was their parents never felt the need to come on here and and boast about wins or justify losses.

I know, your not a parent. You just happened to watch every single game.

Anonymous said...

12:55 if you remember Ajax said they lost to Dragons because they didn't have their best players. I guess no excuses this time?

The agenda is who's number 2? Dragons or Ajax? they know who's number 1 (Storm) and number 4 (Shore).

Anonymous said...

Do your homework before going to MF or accepting anything. They will send you a nice acceptance letter stating you have 72 hours to accept and make your first $800 payment due in 3 installments by A certain date. Think hard and don't be pressured. They will always accept your check and they will always use guest players from other clubs and other teams.


Anonymous said...

If you go to ANY academy it will be cut throat. That is why they are already pulling away from everyone else and will be far ahead next year. You will need to fight for time at this level and that is why it is above all others. Reality! Not for all but to not get it means you really should not be involved....

Anonymous said...

If you are part of an academy and think that is reality and they are that far ahead you must be drinking the kool aid. Do you think the best kids play and only for the best go the academies? Politics and bs all over. They are not that far ahead proven by what MF just did by bringing ecnl players to the npl to try and win a state cup. Kids that have been on that npl are now sitting the bench. Gonna be embarrassing if they don't win. Just saying and such

Anonymous said...

njcsa Galaxy just keeps losing.

Anonymous said...

Just curious what player was added to STA. they have the same girls as they did at the first tournament in Sept. We played them in the fall and spring. No change to that roster.

Anonymous said...

Nice try. I will not specifically mention the position that has been adjusted. It's not fair to players or parents.

They have had u14 players play on their U13 roster for a majority of the season.

Ajax uses top ECNL players when possible.

Dragons use an ECNL goalie

MF black, blue and NPL use ECNL "ringers"

Wildcats boasting about using Storm players

Get off your soap box STA.


STA welcome to the winners circle. You are not above getting called out for roster moves now.

Anonymous said...

Is it not ok to borrow a goalie when your goalie is hurt? Seems logical to me unless you keep 2-3 gaolies on your team.

Anonymous said...

@206....."Wildcats boasting about using Storm players"

Huh?

Anonymous said...

If you do not think that after combining all of their top players that these academies are not going to be at another level, good luck with thinking otherwise. One solid kid who can possibly compete for a position at one of these academies is not going to be able to carry their team as much as we move forward. But good luck.

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Anonymous said...

and you must be one of them not receiving the invite for the A squad. so of course it isn't fair and has to with politics, favorites, suck ups, etc...

Anonymous said...

Hey 3:01, Look at May 3rd 10:09 am post.

Anonymous said...

I know we all like to kill NJ Wildcats.
Below are the opportunities they are giving their kids at u13 and I'm sure it will be the same at u14 and so on. All your kid can ask for is the opportunity what they make of it well that's a results conversation.

Tournaments
2015 Jefferson Cup
2014 Generation Adidas Bethesda Tournament
2014 WAGS Tournament Presented by the NSCAA
2014 Spirit United Kickoff Classic

Leagues
EDP LEAGUE FALL 2014
EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2015
EDP NPL
2015 Region I Champions League

State Cups
New Jersey National Championship Series
New Jersey Cup 2015

Qualified for
2015 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships Barboursville, WV

Can Still Qualify for
2015 US Youth Soccer National Championships Tulsa, OK
2015 NPL Finals Westfield, IN
2015 National Cup XIV Westfield, IN via Regionals
2015/2016 National League

Did not qualify
2015 National Cup XIV Westfield, IN via NJ Cup

Anonymous said...

Wildcats didn't "use" a Storm player for an event.
She left Storm and carded with Wildcats Team this weekend.

Anonymous said...

Dragons still a B team no matter how good you say they are said so by the Almighty Powder Blue.

Anonymous said...

5:03- What do you call a team that loses to a B team?

Anonymous said...

5:03 Nothing wrong with being a good B team. But you are correct.

All NPLs have a PDP like ECNL that can send their players to id2.

NorthEast Girls NPL will never have that opportunity. Because if she was that level player she would be on ECNL team. Having said that these teams will always be a B team no matter how many games they win. For some people that's good enough for others it's not. Both are right

Anonymous said...

5:22- You seem very insightful. What happens when B and C teams beat these teams that send their players to id2?

You realize the 3 NE NPL teams are in the final 4 AGAIN.... in NJ Cup?

Odd you skipped over this???

Keep gassing up your car and chasing all the 'National" events.

Anonymous said...

Ajax used at least 2 storm players for state cup.

Anonymous said...

There are 2 teams in the semis that competed all spring on their own merit without any other players from any other team. Can you name them?

Anonymous said...

Its definitely no MF npl

Anonymous said...

Hey 5:22, there are only 2 ECNL teams in NJ. if your daughter is not on one them, wouldn't you want her on the next best option? In NJ it is a "B" team. Not so in any other state as far as I can tell.

Anonymous said...

What are the two teams? Because I have first hand knowledge that none of the true Academy teams have played with only the rostered players from last August.

Anonymous said...

Wrong answer. Try again.

Anonymous said...

7:00 How about from last September or this Spring? You don't know what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

Did I hit a nerve 5:09? Are you still hoping to play for Storm? Think hard...Powder Blue is not even looking at your players.

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Anonymous said...

Really, 7:41? What are you doing?

Anonymous said...

Obviously 7:41 is the same guy that will put down anything PDA and MF no matter what the facts are. You are truly a sick person who needs help. MF and PDA don't want your kind.

Anonymous said...

State wins the state cup easy. MF and PDAall lose using ecnl players. GGoing to be a real embarrassment.

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Anonymous said...

11:19am PDA is the club that started that whole process. Last year they brought down players at EVERY age group to advance to the NPL.

They did this as well for years for State Cup and the NJ Cup.

Please don't say PDA does not do this

Anonymous said...

When the keeper gets hurt you replace her with someone on your roster, as has always been the case with any injuries on any other team.
Saying you only took the storm keeper because yours got hurt is still using ringers and not winning with your own players/team.
there are plenty of teams without 2 keepers, when the keeper gets hurt a field player goes in goal and they move on and play with what they have on their own roster.

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Anonymous said...

9:13. Ajax or Dragons? What SC game?

Anonymous said...

Making stuff up.

Anonymous said...

I don't think any position player should ever play goalie at this level. A big risk of getting hurt. Each team should carry 2 goalies or do what PDA does and allows goalies to play up and down in a pinch. Better than seeing a field player get injured.

Anonymous said...

Delco Schedules come out today

Anonymous said...

6:13pm last night sums it up. 3 of 4 teams in SC finals are NE NPL academy "b" teams. Safe to say it is clearly your next best bet after the two ECNL. I know it may kill others to hear that but the truth is in the final four...... Is there a case for anything better?

Anonymous said...

8:22

Nice try. MF npl is njx. Just changed name to mf npl. Worse training more money and play in sh***y league travelling the east coast. State cup is only a four win championship this year. In years past has been 5. This year 4 games with 40 byes. When MF brings in 6 ecnl players for quarters and semis, is it still a npl team. You know the ecnl players didn't sit the bench, the npl players did

Anonymous said...

There are 2 teams in the SC semis in NJ that competed all spring on their own merit without any other players from any other team. Can you name them?

Anonymous said...

There is one STA

Anonymous said...

Still have not heard a better case. So your team that lost is in a "better" league. Please tell. Embrace that your team is not better than the teams you love to call B teams. You must be tired from late shift you worked last night. Yeah, we know who the MF NJX basher is....

Anonymous said...

Stop with the nonsense. There are good B teams (MF NPL, AJAX, Dragons) and other teams (Wildcats, STA). All are good teams. No reason to diss any of them.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to side track the NJ discussion...if PL wins PA State Cup, will the girls who are leaving for PF still be with the team at the end of June for the Region 1 tournament. I would think PF would want them practicing with their new team by then.

Anonymous said...

Ask yourself that question, would you really want to be with your old team??

Anonymous said...

10:30

Ask yourself THIS question, if you daughter had the chance to win a another state championship, and compete for a regional title, maybe national, with girls she's been best friends with since they were 8, would she? Right now it's not their "old"" team, until July 31st it's their "current" team. They can walk away any time they want but I bet they want to finish the goals they set for themselves this year.

Anonymous said...

It seems that EPA is catching up to NJ.
What a mess!

Anonymous said...

10:01

That applies to most clubs that have more than one team at an age group, but Wildcats only have one team, so wouldn't they technically be the A team and then if another team is formed at the club at that age group that would be the B team.

I'm a little confused with the A B

or is it that all ECNL are A and everyone else is B which I think is ridiculous

Anonymous said...

It seems that EPA is catching up to NJ.
What a mess!
Can clubs having 25 player rosters on 3 teams in each age group be far off in PA?

Anonymous said...

I believe STA also only has 1 team in this age group. Also TSF.

Anonymous said...

Teams making of fun of MF NPL for not participating in Top tournaments, top flights, bad leagues, etc. Once again here they are in the semis of NJ Cup.

Only team to ever beat them in this format was PDA Storm. Its been a great run.

Anonymous said...

TSF has a team in this age group?

Anonymous said...

MF NPL-uses ECNL players
Dragons-uses ECNL
Ajax-uses ECNL players
STA-uses other players (gk)

So the jackass who keeps talking about this spring when the season started only a month ago really needs to stop wasting our time. Apparently MF is using ECNL players and we all know the non rostered ECNL players from PDA have played for both Ajax and Dragons. Parents talk from all the teams so stop with the bs.

There are only 2 teams in the Semis of the SC who didn't use guest players in the fall. Can you name them? LMAO

Anonymous said...

That shows you that you don't know the teams. There are 2 teams whether you want to beleive it or not that are legit in playing only their players. And they are in the Semis using only their players.

Anonymous said...

And they beat your daughters team using only their players.

Anonymous said...

I don't follow other teams players. Just know what your parents have stated.

Anonymous said...

Only STA has not used players not rostered to their team for all events this spring in state cup.
Dragons used storm GK all along.
Position doesn't matter as bringing storm keeper down obviously helped you get there. If it would have been NCS state cup Dragons could not have used Storm GK.

Anonymous said...

Top 4 teams qualify for post season (I won't say it) excluding CFC CT with the winner representing the league at Indiana

NorthEast NPL

48 (19) +46 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL
45 (17) +41 PDA North 01 NPL
38 (17) +30 PDA South 01 NPL
25 (16) +5 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
25 (18) -2 FSA FC 01 NPL
22 (18) -5 FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL
20 (18) -11 Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL
15 (18) -11 World Class FC 01 NPL
ELIMINATED Connecticut FC 01 NPL
ELIMINATED Albertson SC 01 NPL
ELIMINATED FC Bucks 01 NPL
ELIMINATED Continental FC 01 NPL

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Winner of North plays winner of South to represent EDP NPL at Indiana

EDP NPL North
9 (3) +13 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G
7 (3) +6 NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN
1 (2) -8 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA NPL
0 (1) -1 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL
0 (1) -2 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC STARS
ELIMINATED NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY PUMAS NPL

EDP NPL South
9 (3) +13 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
3 (2) +0 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE
0 (0) +0 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 '01G NPL
ELIMINATED LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS
ELIMINATED MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01G

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First place represents league at Indiana

NYCSL NPL

24 (10) +18 STA NPL-01
21 (10) +18 NJ Crush FC NPL-01
19 (10) +8 New York Soccer Club NPL-01
14 (10) +6 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01
13 (10) -3 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01
ELIMINATED Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01
ELIMINATED Quickstrike FC NPL-01
ELIMINATED New York Rush NPL-01

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Winner of Spring if not PWS plays PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER to represent VA NPL at Indiana if PWS wins Spring to no playoff game.

NPL Virginia Spring 2015
13 (5) +18 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB
11 (5) +12 FC VIRGINIA
11 (5) +8 NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB
09 (5) +4 CHESAPEAKE UNITED SOCCER CLUB
03 (2) +3 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER
06 (5) -4 RICHMOND KICKERS
05 (5) -7 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB
05 (6) -10 CHURCHLAND SOCCER
04 (5) -6 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB
ELIMINATED CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC

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Top 4 teams qualify for post season with the winner representing the league at Indiana. My assumption is that Fall and Spring will be combined.

New England NPL

36 (12) +68 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
28 (12) +36 OAKWOOD SC
24 (13) +16 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02
16 (12) -4 YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE
14 (12) -9 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02
12 (12) -10 GPS-MA NPL
ELIMINATED SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G
ELIMINATED AZTEC GIRLS U13 AZTEC GIRLS 01 BLACK

Anonymous said...

If Dragons brought in a keeper from ECNL Storm team for state cup then they did not get there using only their own team/players.

Anonymous said...

Next year NYCSL NPL and New England NPL will have a crossover Cup that will send the Champion to NPL finals (it starts this year at u14).

My guess is the Fall League Champion will represent the league and the Crossover Cup will be played in a Spring sending a 3rd team from this group to NPL Finals. Kind of similar to Northwest Champions league

STA NPL-01
NJ Crush FC NPL-01
New York Soccer Club NPL-01
Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
OAKWOOD SC
SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02
YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE

Anonymous said...

NJ teams doing great in league play. PDA and MF cruising in NE NPL

STA and NJ Crush are 1st and 2nd in NYCSL NPL

NJ soccer dominating interstate league play.

Anonymous said...

My daughter has played against NJX since U8. Though I do not like the team we all have to give them tremendous respect. I don't know what the future holds for those players but they have had one heck of a run. Good luck to all the teams playing in SC this weekend.

Anonymous said...

us club based soccer has replaced the foldaways of US Youth soccer.

If you are a club based team. you may use any girl who is age appropriate to represent any team within the club.

very rarely will club play a top 8 player to the lower level unless players on the lower level are hurt or not there for other reasons. Club teams will give girls that do not play as much on the first team a chance to get playing time on the second team.

Youth soccer old timers may hate that these clubs that have plenty can do this but it is within the rules of US Club soccer .


if you can't beat it then join a club that has the ability to do the same to even the playing field.

But to blame clubs just because they take advantage of a rule which was implemented to give clubs and girls total flexibility across the age group is just plain whining and pining for the days of old.

Anonymous said...

I reoeat, there are 2 teams in the SC semis in NJ that competed all spring on their own merit without any other players from any other team. Can you name them?

Anonymous said...

No because they are no longer in the state cup!!!!!! Let it go. Why you become part of a program and not just a one off team..... But keep telling yourself you are doing it the "right" way. Dopey.

Anonymous said...

12:24 Always a great job bringing all the league standings to this site.

Based on the league standings it is very clear where the better NJ teams are playing.

NE NPL has 3 out of semi finalists

EDP NPL undefeated North and South teams knocked out in quarter finals.

NYCSL NPL- STA in semis by knocking out an EDP league leader.




Anonymous said...

Funny how 12:41 forgot to mention Region 1 Championship league. I believe that contains teams from various states, including the great and powerful NJ.

Anonymous said...

1:33 Thanks.

Never looked at it that way, interesting.

Makes you wonder what would have happened in NCS if all participated.

Curious to see how many NJ/NY teams take advantage of the EDP Open Cup next year playing teams from PA and MD that are not in their regular league (If the new teams like PA Classics and Rage enter).

Anonymous said...

The undertone of the MF-NJX issue is the parent coach favoring her kid. There was a great presentation given a few years ago at a soccer symposium dealing with the negative impact of abusive parent coaching. The presenter stated that parent coaches who over rank their kid, over play their kid, throttle or suppress other players to provide their own child with an easier path into the line-up and on and on are in this presenter's opinion abusive personalities.

But since you can't change in most cases that character trait and in many cases the favored child grows up soft/weak as having been favored by the mom or dad...the biggest victim of the abuse are the typically 1-4 other players who were suppressed by the abuser coach and who did not get fair value for their parents dollar; did not get fair opportunity to perform and get minutes; did not get a fair chance to succeed or fail. The presenter also indicated that the abuser needs "abusees". Parents who either don't know they are getting abused or worse who do know and choose to allow it.

In many cases the abuser and the abusee show outwardly that they are fond of each other but behind each other's backs the abuser sees the abusee as a fool and the abusee resents the abuser

Anonymous said...

Did the said coaches kid play more than other sub players? I have seen that team and can guess which player you are talking about but there are a few girls that play the entire game and sub players that all seemed to rotate in regularly. Kind of that way on all of these teams..... Except ECNL where not many play the full game anymore.....

Anonymous said...

Hey 1:31, come again?

Anonymous said...

Three teams can now rely on the "we were missing players" line after this weekend.

Anonymous said...

The answer, 1:26, you were looking for is STA and the Dragons. Doing it with what they have!

Anonymous said...

2:02

WELL DONE!!!!!

Anonymous said...

2:27 you are just as big of an idiot as 2:02! Or the same poster.....
So your answer to your kid, who was a sub player to begin with, is she is not getting more time ONLY because another player has "connections"?? You obviously never played competitively and I feel for your kid if that is what you are telling her. Good luck with that. Time to face reality. She did not pop up on any of these other top of the list teams so just maybe she was getting the time she should have been getting based on ability all along. Move on.

Anonymous said...

2:36
Yes another one that has very deep pockets or is a chosen one heard from.

Anonymous said...

ENOUGH with the NJX parent coach slamming. Not sure what kind of vendetta you have but it is sick. The NJX coach was a volunteer - and like all volunteer coaches - gave tremendous amounts of time to a team of girls who have achieved a lot. There are volunteer parent coaches all over the state and few of them have coached a team that was as successful as this team has been and even fewer actually willingly step away. I have only seen this team play a few times as my kid's team doesn't compete at this level, but they had some young guy coaching the team at last year's NJ Cup Finals and now they are at a club where parental influence is basically non-existent. I don't know what kind of hateful person you are 2:02. But let it go and get some counseling.

Anonymous said...

The best way to let something go is to not reply to it. But you felt compelled to get in your views. Using the word "volunteer" does not change the point.

You attack the messenger and the message but not the matter.

A volunteer coach has the power to be abusive. Whether this coach is or is not is between her and her players. But the point made by the presenter at the conference is spot on. And no matter how many words you write in all caps changes that.

No need to reply about the messenger or the message. Just the matter. Is it ok to you that a parent's child gets overt preferential treatment over other players? If you are ok with it, then fine.

Anonymous said...

And you can pontificate all you want. Does not make the statement true either...... That is my response.

Anonymous said...

"now they are at a club where parental influence is basically non-existent."

insert Vincent Price laugh here..

Anonymous said...

The escape clause in that statement is the word basically, it gives an out in most cases, and I’m not even a damn lawyer, nor do I want to be.

Anonymous said...

The parental influence was reinforced when she brought an entire team and $30000 to MF. Just like politics in New Jersey corruption for preferential treatment

Anonymous said...

"Parents who either don't know they and their child are being abused or who do know and choose to allow it"
Isn't that very similar to the parent who puts/keep their child on a team with a roster of more than 18 where she will not play or even dress every game?

Anonymous said...

Your daughter was a sub player and subbed equally with all other sub players. Let it go. If she deserved more time on that team, why is she now NOT playing on a team of the same level? Never easy to look within.....

Anonymous said...

Parent coaching:

lets see:

Match NPL has one

PDA has one

Worldclass has one

Matchfit has one


It seems this is the best way for a parent to look out for their daughter.. A little more playing time, Usually put in a central position or next to someone that will protect them

it is a certainty that special treatment is given but they will look you right in the face and say no way.


These coaches are simply trying to game the system.


Unfortunately starting next year, those days are officially over.


Honey, you are on your own!









Anonymous said...

5:03

Well said and was well protected. Not next year

Anonymous said...

Funny all the meatheads on here that never played at this same high level as their kids.....
ALWAYS politics and favoritism at the top. Toughen your girl up and deal with it. Giving her the attitude that it is always someone else's fault will not help her one bit. Now go enjoy your cigarette.......

Anonymous said...

5:23- The real topic has been the parents making excuses. Look at all 4 teams in the semis

STA has same team. There goalie moved up to U14 but is age eligible for U13. Her playing on U13 is not an issue.

Dragons goalie was initially carded on Storm, as a backup. Storm only carried 1 goalie. Has been with Dragons all year.

PDA Ajax- Several key players were brought up to Storm (Like all clubs do). Storm would send the non rostering players to Ajax when possible. This actually makes it tougher on Ajax when you have players your not familiar with showing up at games.

MF NPL- Had a very good player start the season with them but was called up to the ECNL team quickly. Once again this is how good clubs operate.

So technically, you can say that Dragons, Ajax and MF NPL used "ECNL" players at some point during the year. You can say STA used a U14 goalie this season. But all 4 of these teams have proven to be the best and deserve to be there.

NONE of these clubs would risk their best ECNL players in an NPL league game. To be fair, they don't have to. Look at all of their records. They have completely dominated league play on their own.

I understand that for some people they need to justify why they lose to B and C teams. How about we give these clubs some credit for fielding several very good teams.

I admit its sad I know all this. All of these girls have competed against, played with, trained with and attended camps together. All 4 of these teams are full of girls who love to compete and play soccer. Don't minimize their hard work and accomplishments.

Good Luck to ALL 4 this weekend. Stay heathy and have fun!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone seen the Delco schedule? It was suppose to be released today.

Anonymous said...

Very well said 6:00. Tired of the whiner(s). Play the games!

Anonymous said...

6:00, By far the best post this year. And spot on regarding each team mentioned. Thank you for setting the record straight.

Anonymous said...

6:00 Thanks for taking the time.

If any anybody out here thinks these "B" and "C" teams are carried by the top ECNL players your wrong.

Bring your daughter to the tryouts and try and take one of these girls spots. Bring a lot of water, ice and your usual excuses when the clubs say thanks for coming but......

Good luck STA, Dragons, Ajax and MF NJX!

Anonymous said...

5:03

it doesn't matter what you think because next year, they are on their own. Just watch how their playing time gets diminished!



Anonymous said...

Kids will be moving this tryout season. It's like a blindside on survivor.

Anonymous said...

Kids move every year. If your team stays static they will fall behind.

Anonymous said...

Any surprises at MF, PDA, STA, or wildcats tryouts last 2 days?

Anonymous said...

I'm hearing nj CRUSH may merge with stallions? I know they have to do something, most teams are in trouble and they are just a notch above the town club teams the girls have come from.

Anonymous said...

There will be some girls from all the teams mentioned here as top teams moving to PDA and MF ECNL. They have been at the tryouts and they will make the team. This is as it should be as these are the best of the best. The non-ECNL team will compete for the rest. It will be an interesting off season as these teams will change a lot.

Anonymous said...

PDA not changing much.

Anonymous said...

this is interesting

http://thesoccerlist.com/top50girls/

Anonymous said...

My kid does not play for an ECNL Club

3 clubs in our area

World Class- need to make\add players. Unsure if players making move to this club

PDA- made their moves last year and throughout the year. Moved players from Ajax to Storm team.Team sitting a top of league currently. Even though sitting top the league, I do not see this team the team to beat personally. We know what to expect from this team going forward.

MF- Personally have huge upside. Combining NPL with ECNL Players will be the team to beat going forward.

Anonymous said...

World Class is getting at least one excellent player next year, rumor mill saying.

No idea if they are losing any

Anonymous said...

Hear PDA and MF making lots of moves.

Anonymous said...

6 PM

MF used one of their better ECNL players in a second tier SC win. This was not a player that wasnt getting ECNL minutes

Explain.

Anonymous said...

How do you know this players wasn't getting minutes?
If you were apart of that team, I think you would know why she is playing.

Anonymous said...

NJ Cup Predictions?

STA vs Ajax- I am going to take STA in this one. They have been a surprise team this year. Have played well all year. I think this will be a good win for them. 2-1

Dragons vs MF NPL- Similar to STA, the Dragons have had a great year and appear to be the most improved U13 team. MF NPL has dominated them in past Cup games. I think its a very close game but MF wins 1-0.

GS Guy- Can you give us a break down of possible GS points available to all teams involved.

Anonymous said...

Only MF gains points if their ride ends in the final 4. They would get approx 185 pts.

As Runner Up they would get approx
504 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
2224 PDA DRAGONS
2494 PDA AJAX
2686 MATCH FIT ACADEMY NPL

As Champion they would get approx
5504 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
7224 PDA DRAGONS
7494 PDA AJAX
7686 MATCH FIT ACADEMY NPL

Anonymous said...

GS Guy- Thanks. Thats crazy how fast you can churn that out.

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Anonymous said...

I would think players from crush and tsf would try and make move now to wc. Pda has to many on storm, dragons would be a better move too. Why wait, look at your u14 teams, in a world of hurt and most waited to long. I'm sure only one or two players per team can even make the jump to ecnl, the best already made the moves.

Anonymous said...

I thought points and GS doesn't matter.

Whose the point chasers now.

Anonymous said...

9:42 that is an ECNL team argument.

There are no ECNL teams in NJ Cup final 4.

NJ top GS teams with over 10k pts (Non-ECNL) without u12 points. Oh boy there is going to be a major drop off for some teams if they don't place.

15748 STA
14784 NJ WILDCATS
11210 PDA DRAGONS
8391 NJ CRUSH
8031 TSF
5381 NJCSA GALAXY
3513 PDA AJAX
1758 MF NPL

Anonymous said...

Same breakdown for PA - no u12 Points

17574 PL
11434 Rage
10550 HMMS
8957 1776
7725 YMS
7421 PA Classics
6837 Ukranians
5411 FC Rev

Anonymous said...

Isnt Crush U14 in position to go to Nationals with a win vs STA?

Anonymous said...

2 months ago TSF didnt have any worthy talent - now you want them at WC.

Chill, pal. Let the girls try out and play where they wish. Your attempts to sway are comical. Parents do their homework, know where they wish their kid to be.

Anonymous said...

11:30 I think a lot of that swaying business going on.

So did PDA and MF get what they expected at tryouts a good turnout of talent?

Anonymous said...

Not chasing points paying $200 for a local tournament. The point chasers have been eliminated from SC already.

All EDP teams will get 7000 to 3500 GS points depending on whether you come in 1st or last.

Anonymous said...

Not true 1:18

Anonymous said...

why blame the teams when its EDP that set up the point system

Im sure when or if ECNL league gets points then it will all be OK right.


Hypocritical moron

Anonymous said...

@9:35, why interesting, PDA and MF top 50 in country for girls, not surprised at all, perhaps MF above PDA is surprising, but that can change daily.

Anonymous said...

My daughters team got 5000 GS pts.

Nah Nah Nah nah nah..

You people are jokes. It don't mean a thing !!!

Anonymous said...

I agree with 1:20.

The teams play in a league and that's all they can control. They can't control who else applies to the league or what flight they are in.

EDP has D1 and so on that get's points as they should since they are paying to use GS for their league admin.

EDP NPL also get's points as does NYSC NPL and New England NPL and RCL. All 3 of these NPLs and the RCL award fall and spring points.

No one to blame here.

ECNL is a manual enter

NYSCL NPL is set up the same way as NorthEast NPL a straight through league. The league made arrangements to award it's teams GS points NorthEast looks like it didn't.



Anonymous said...

2:07 if that doesn't mean anything what is the purpose of this board since results don't matter for this age.

Anonymous said...

NPL MEMBER LEAGUES:
19 Member Leagues Throughout the Country (Not all leagues have a u13 Girls Program):

Eastern Development League – NPL Northern Illinois Soccer League – NPL
Florida Premier League
Northwest Champions League
Gulf States Premier League
Oregon Premier League – NPL
Midwest Developmental League
South Atlantic Premier League
Mountain Developmental League
South Central Premier League
New England Premier League
Southern California NPL
New York Club Soccer League – NPL
Texas Pre-Academy League
NorCal Premier League – NPL
Virginia NPL
Northeast Girls NPL
Washington State Premier League
Northeast Pre-Academy League

Anonymous said...

NJ Top 5 (non-ecnl) spring records

MatchFit GP13, W10, T1, L2, GF24, GA7
PDA North GP14, W8, T4, L2, GF31, GA11
STA GP11, W7, T1, L3, GF25, GA10
PDA South GP15, W7,T3, L5, GF22, GA12
NJ Wildcats GP15, W7, T3, L5 GF24, GA19

vs each other 2014/2015
PDA North GP6, W3, T3, L0, GF5, GA2
MatchFit GP5, W2, T2, L1, GF6, GA2
NJ Wildcats GP4, W2, T0, L2, GF6, GA5
PDA South GP5, W1, T1, L3 GF3, GA7
STA GP4, W1, T0, L2, GF5, GA9

Anonymous said...

10:46. Great job. This site has it all

Financials- GS Guy, calculating flight values
Police reports- Coaches being replaced for poor decisions
Comics- Wildcats "we played......" comments
Investigative Reporting- speculation of who's leaving, programs merging.
Sports- Updated league standings. Scores not yet posted
Editorials- Soccer Nut gives some well supported ideas

Anonymous said...

you guys all still play terrible soccer, all 4 SC finalists play over the top, no passing through the midfield, or playing out of the back, just awful, and I feel sorry for your entire state...

Anonymous said...

Funny how 3 of the teams left in SC beat up on your PA teams all year long in league play..... But if knocking them is your MO then you are just a douche anyway! Take care.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is looking to move up to a u14 team, 15 next year. she will be going to HS next year and needs to play grade appropriate now. Looked at CRUSH, doesn't look like the team is staying together. Looks like igfa and stall ions are the best shot, then tsf. Didn't make WC. Any other good options and is anyone else in same situation?

Anonymous said...

What do most kids do who are in that sames spot, basically 8th graders on a U13 team?

Where do you live? Kind of late as many of the tryouts are over.

Anonymous said...

Why do you feel she has to move to u15 next year ?


Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

Not the original poster but the answer is because U15, doesn't play in the Fall or at least has a reduced schedule. Playing HS soccer and Club Soccer is very demanding.

Anonymous said...

Heard the IGFA team is great, may be tough to get on. TSF team looked to have a thin bench, don't know if they are good, but they have a good reputation for training.

Anonymous said...

Tthe other thing is , talk to your current coach and set expectations for next season. Maybe he will be ok with her missing training once per week. We are in the same position, and that's what I did. Communication is good.

Anonymous said...

if that is the case then poster should think carefully about his decision to play his daughter up a year as the inconvience is only for one fall season.

Then everything normalizes after that.

A lot will depend on the player and her particular standings on her current team.

Is her current team an ECNL team that play in college showcases at u14 or a high level club team.

Will she be taking a step back in the role she will play by playing up?


Lots of factors to consider and it will depend on the circumstances of the individual player.


Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

"Looked at Crush U14 - doesnt seem like they are staying together"

- please -

Crush has teams - and mostly MULTIPLE - at every age group. And STORM is in the hunt for a Nationals berth

Anonymous said...

11:10

I dont think it is about missing training just once a week

School schedule you have to figure is 6 days on, with Sundays off

Do you really want your 14 year old daughter playing 7 days a week (including Sunday club game)?

U14s who are grade 9 should move up (if possible) or just take the fall season off.

Anonymous said...

12:00

I guess we disagree. I think you have to be very very careful to make that choice.


Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

If my kid was in the same spot, I'd only move her if I knew she was going to make the Varsity as freshman. You are much better development wise playing club for a good club team than you are most Freshman or JV teams. On a good varsity that is not true.

Seems like you must live in Bergen based on the teams you have mentioned. If you don't mind driving to Wharton you may want to reach out to Match Fit. They have multiple teams at U14.

Anonymous said...

We tried out and made crush, but then heard all the current players have already accepted other spots and all leaving. Tryouts are over, but evey club is still allowing us to try out. Leaning towards igfa now.

Anonymous said...

First of all U15 doesn't play in the fall so you have plenty of time to pick a club. Second of all join a club that rewards good players. She should already be guesting with the U14. If the club is not doing this already she is either not good enough or a poor club

Anonymous said...

Doesn't IGFA practice in Metuchen?

Anonymous said...

Vegas just posted NJ Cup lines.

MF NPL 2/1
PDA Dragons 3/1
PDA Ajax 5/1
STA 8/1.

Anonymous said...

1:31 that is funny, we need some levity on here. for c sake. I like MF, so agree with those odds. STA at 8-1 ouch. maybe I bet $10 on that just for the possible $90 return. in that second group I like NJCSA and Spurs to play on Sunday at 10am. I don't think BOCA or Haddonfield can go any further, but give a hand to them in this single elimination format.

Anonymous said...

I think you're right 2:00 PM. No one would leave Crush ever

Anonymous said...

Crush current u13 is fine. There is no drama and the team is not breaking up- no one is even leaving. And they still have a shot at Indiana as they are currently sitting in 2nd place in npl.
I don't think there actually is an igfa team right now. Heard lots of tag girls showed up at WC for the second year in a row. Not sure if new coach took them though.

Anonymous said...

No one is leaving Crush U13? No one that you know about. I know for a fact that someone is leaving

Anonymous said...

Follow along folks, the person is talking about the current U14 team, not U13.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a bs artist, we were told by many people that all the girls are leaving and yes, it's the current u14 team we tried out for. If you say that all the girls have not accepted other spots on other teams from crush u14, then you don't have a clue.

Anonymous said...

Vegas odds for U13 girls.

What a dic !

Anonymous said...

Crush is not a place that develops individual soccer players.



Anonymous said...

3:35 Are you serious with that post he can't be that, there can be only one tool on the board and that title belongs to me along with a few others. I loved the Vegas odds, also like STA at 8/1. Let me guess you don't horse around with your kid?

The funny thing is you have a beef with odds on a u13 GIRLS board but yet you call someone a tool on a u13 GIRLS board. Nice!

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, 9:13 has got it right, but I don't think he is from PA, since that is the same style they play, if I had to guess, I would say a NY guy bashing NJ. That post made me laugh out loud, good one.

Anonymous said...

i have to agree, these four teams play "ping pong" soccer.

It is embarrassing watching the shortcuts these coaches have taken with these girls.

Anonymous said...

Haven't seen any u13 teams not ping pong the ball around the bitch. U guys need to really stop acting like these girls are suppose to play like Barcelona. They are u13. Go watch a College or Professional women's game and they are ping ponging the ball all game long.
Of course everyone would love the kids to play beautiful ball but give the kids a break. They are compeating and will eventually play better.

Anonymous said...

I think 2 PM means that Crush hasnt even finished the tryout process thus offers would not have gone out yet

Does sound a bit fishy that a current U13 parent from whatever team thinks the daughter can just step on and play with IGFA 15s next year.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to the semi-finals. Hope you enjoyed the week of put downs by all those whose daughters are not playing. Happens every year.

Now if you lose tomorrow your daughters team will not be worthy to even be in the top 10 in the state. The teams that didn't make it will claim they are superior. Also happens every year.

Jealousy is cruel!

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