Tuesday, January 27, 2015

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

and...

Gotsoccer uses wins/games played

Anonymous said...

Weather for Virginia not good at all. Today chance of showers, tomorrow is a washout. Thursday partly cloudy skies then Friday temperature dips & another washout. Saturday lingering showers but bit warmers. Getting quality playing surface on real grass is going to be a huge challenge.

Anonymous said...

Crush poster is upset that they have been exposed and at the bottom of them all. they need to recruit and this doesn't help the cause. U14 team are all scrambling to get on ecnl teams - jump while you can. WCFC is a great option for you - u14 team is trying hard to go there now.

Anonymous said...

10:12 I gave my opinion below:

Anonymous said...
Looking at Jeff cup F1 by winning%.
Group A looks wide open while Group B should come down to FCV and PL. A few more days to go good luck all.

Group A
0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)
0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)

Group B
0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)

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10:26 But today is Tuesday and if we weren't talking about this we would be talking about?

PS. I am looking ahead to Spring - what makes you think I'm not - because i posted some stats we haven't talked about and some teams look bad? That makes me a bad guy and a trouble maker?
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10:37 But If I do that i would be adding 8v8 results - got killed when i did that. I wanted to include Fall EDP Cup and NEWSS but is FSA NPL a F1 team I decided not to? Sorry I thought Discovery was a Major. Do you want me to remove Discovery? I'm okay with that.

Anonymous said...

nobody cares what you do

Anonymous said...

Okay I don'tt hink anyone will argue that these are the MAJOR EastCoast tournaments

WAGS
Spirit
Bethesda
Disney
CASL
FC Stars

Took only F1 from these tournaments:


1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)
0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)
0.833 DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN)
0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)
0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
0.750 MICHIGAN WOLVES-HAWKS 02 (MI)
0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)
0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)
0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)
0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)
0.667 CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL)
0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)
0.500 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
0.500 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)
0.500 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)
0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)
0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)
0.500 GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA)
0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)
0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)
0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)
0.333 MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL)
0.333 ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS)
0.333 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC)
0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)
0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
0.167 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)
0.167 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)
0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)
0.000 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
0.000 WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL)
0.000 BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)
0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)

Anonymous said...

Okay so you don't like by team how about by state association?

0.765 GA
0.700 OS
0.654 MA
0.550 NYE
0.538 VA
0.405 NJ
0.342 PAE
0.341 MD

Anonymous said...

Dude, are you some kind of Hotshotz groupie? Every time you make a list you out them on top, whats up with that, is your daughter on that team, are you coach Dan??

Anonymous said...

To the poster who posted the winning percentages. Good job. My daughter plays on a team that is below 500. Never thought her team is the best but we are going in the right direction. She knows what it takes to play teams in the f1 and plays with more intensity. I personally don't see a huge difference between F1 and F2. All teams deserve credit for the high level of play. Good luck to all region 1 teams. I can't wait for this weekend. Let's go outside and enjoy all the games.

Anonymous said...

I have a question for the MF pre-ecnl team, is the girl who got the u15 National team call-up really the best player on your team, or was their more to that decision?

Anonymous said...

So is it Storm or HotShotz?
They have the best winning%

WAGS
Spirit
Bethesda
Disney
CASL
FC Stars

Okay I'll put a min games played of 5 to show teams playing in 2 or more only if it makes you feel better.


0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)
0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)
0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)
0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)
0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)
0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)
0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)
0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)
0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)

Anonymous said...

What would really make me feel better is to know what team your daughter plays on, care to tell us?

Anonymous said...

I didn't post my comment to make you feel better. Now it seems you are just bored at work and are trolling.

Anonymous said...

11:34 I agree with you 100% - The talk has been that playing in F1 at majors is what counts. I don't argue that I wanted to run with it and to build on it.

It show's who doesn't play at majors - if your not ECNL and think you are good you should be playing in majors.

It shows all the teams that these events thought were really good by placing them in F1 to play really good teams. It's no slap to be in f1.

It supports claims made that teams are elite or it exposes those claims as false.

I personally, agree that the top two flights in these majors should be used,but then I would get called out for trying to include a team that doesn't belong.

Anonymous said...

11:39 Why does it matter?

11:43 not trolling just adjusting the list to your complaints. Maybe that is trolling? or maybe you want to talk about what 11:35 want's to, go ahead I will stop.

Anonymous said...

All of the teams in the top 2 flights belong. You can argue in favor of many teams. The system isn't perfect but get used to it. This happens in all aspects of life. All they can do is play the best they can on that given day

Anonymous said...

11:49 if you read my post I never complain once. I even said you did a good job. Like I said before I don't think my daughters team is the best and would be happy to play any of the top teams in this or any tournament. Builds character and shows what they have to improve on

Anonymous said...

Opinions will likely change after this weekend. Look at Spirit D1, some of those teams will never see F1 again. Other than FCV who would be given one pass, any D1 team that goes 0-3 at Jeff can expect to be in D2 at the next Major. Whoever wins D2 will be D1 like NEFC will be. These committees are trying to place teams in divisions based on 6-12 month old results, and they get it right more often than not. We'll see who put the work in this winter and who didn't.

Anonymous said...

Hot Shotz groupie

heh

Conveniently leaves out Delco Cup

Glosses over losses in their own event and at NEWSS (to ALBERTSON - hey, I wonder where that guy got the idea that ALB. was an up and comer?)

See the field, folks.

Excellent team, of course, by the way. And a "local" that HAS won an out of state event (STARS)

Anonymous said...

I agree with 12:01. I think that Jeff Cup picked the right 8 teams for top flight (with World Class having a case to be in it), but I also think that 5 or 6 of those teams (including my daughter's) might be out of the top flights of the next round of tournaments with a poor showing this weekend. I'm not sure what to expect given how little practice many of these teams have had due to the weather.

Anonymous said...


F1 Teams?
ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE)
ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)

At NEWSS they were -IF I included this _ would have to include many others and honestly I'm good but I don't have that much time on my hands.


F1 Teams?
ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
NJCSA ELITE (NJ)
FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01 (CT)
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)

AT EDP I would have to include these teams.
Kill me on the board and call me a groupie.

11;51 You just gave me an idea - I will run a separate list list of F2 teams at these events.
PS. I am used to it - it is reality - that'swhy i'm on this board having some fun. Not once did I give my opinion about the order of the list, just posted stats.

11:58 - I'm with you - I think more kid's should have an opportunity to play that level. I'm a soccer guy and love pro/rel - if you don't win you get relegated and give someone else a chance to get promoted.

12:01 Agree

12:06 Why would I include Delco and exclude 8v8 from Delco? I though 8v8 was so yesterday? Not all top teams played 11v11 at Delco. See my comments above about NEWSS I left it out for a reason not becasue I'm a groupie. But whatever floats your boat.
PS. You ever hang on hempstead Turnpike, Francis lewis blvd or 231 when you were younger? How about Astoria Park or in Bensonhurst?

Anonymous said...

I didnt say include Newss

I prefer your model disappears altogether


Anonymous said...

The GS page shows Bucci as the NJX-MF coach. Is he the coach or are they just using his likeness to foster the ruse?

Anonymous said...

MF did the same thing last year to keep them from bolting club. then he never coached a game.

Anonymous said...

He coached them this weekend. If you are not on the team, why do you care??

Anonymous said...

What do you get when njx merges with MF? No top flights in tournaments. More losses in the last year then the previous 3 years. Beat FSA 5-0 in the fall and squeak by 2-1 this weekend. Transformed a team to a bunch of individuals. Me me me

Anonymous said...

He doesn't coach even when he does show up. He's busg socializing instead of coaching

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Anonymous said...

That's not socializing silly. That's coaching. Don't you know that.

Anonymous said...

717 - are you kidding? I will tell you this and I have never seen her play, she blows your daughter away. Go away you tool.

Anonymous said...

@7:17 let me guess , your daughter played with her at one point and she kept the ball and didn't pass to your D. And now you can't stand that she is so good. You always thought you daughter was just as good, but she didn't pass to her and she got all the glory. Time to move on and give the kid credit and tell yours to step up her game, these people who chose her know way more than you ever will.

Anonymous said...

6:16 I was there. No longer buying!

Anonymous said...

If you call texting coaching????

Anonymous said...

So what I haven't seen yet is the predicted order of finish for each bracket in the top two flights (or even three). Its kind of easy to pick FCV and BRYC in the final, but how will the brackets look on Sunday afternoon? I do not see anyone going 0-3, also think there could something similar to Spirit with teams tied at the end (but not a three way PK playoff)

Anonymous said...

I will pick All the games for you tomorrow

Right after the priority tasks of organizing my soups and vacuuming the cat

Anonymous said...

Remember a couple days before Bethesda, most of this boards "brain trust" had Cinn a lock to win, mostly because they beat Storm 2-0 at Eclipse. Back then FCV wasnt really on the radar because they had just gone 1-1-2 at WAGS and didn't get out of their pool. My prediction is the best predictions are going to be wrong. That's why this game is great. Man is it Saturday yet?!?

Anonymous said...

MF NPL correct does not have a constant coach. This is correct. This team seems to be playing soccer. Only issue, it looks this way vs lower level teams. When playing more elite teams. This team struggles. Unsure how this team will do vs top teams.

Anonymous said...

The MF NPL team could do the same thing the top teams in the pre ecnl are doing. It's just a matter of being in the right program with the right coach who has the dedication to improve on what they have done. But it's ninsense to keep bringing this team up. Let them be. This is the last dance for them. Players will be moving on after this spring.

Anonymous said...

F1
A Bracket B Bracket
1. BRYC 1. FC Virginia
2. Penn Fusion 2. Wildcats
3. Cincy 3. Penn Legacy
4. Calvert 4. Tri State
Championship- Virginia over BRYC
*Calvert may go 0-3 in their bracket
*Originally had picked Fusion, but loss of two very good players will affect them.
*First game loss to Virginia will shake Legacy's confidence and carry over to Wildcat game.

F2

A Bracket B Bracket
1. World Class 1. Cleveland
2. NJ Crush 2. PDA
3. Maryland U 3. NY SC
4. PWSI Courage 4. Richmond
Championship- Cleveland over WC
*Maryland U might flip flop with Crush.
*Cleveland will dominate their bracket
Seth the Soothsayer


Anonymous said...

Seth can pick games but can't blog it correctly. Looked much better on paper.
Virginia wins
Cleveland wins
Legacy falters
PDA run over by Cleveland
Wildcats don't tie in every game
BRYC comes close (again)

Anonymous said...

Wide open in F1. Would love to see some upsets! All great teams!

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Anything can happen at this level of play. Keep in mind it will be raining Saturday. The more technically skilled team may suffer.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone provide a fair comparison MF Pre ECNL vs MF NPL, vs PDA Storm or PDA teams

Anonymous said...

I am going to predict that not 1 of those 16 teams ends up where Seth has them.

Anonymous said...

10:44

i will try and only answer specific questions

Anonymous said...

10:56 I have not seen MF Pre ECNL. hear good things tho. Just never seen them play. Seen NJX play as NJX, not as MF NPL. Seen PDA teams play. Really looking for feedback. I know its personal opinion. Just curious

Anonymous said...

Mf Pre ECNL has chance to be best team in NJ if club doesn't screw it up. u14 year is a big year for this club to see if they get it right.

main issue will be transition of coaching-which although addressed, nothing is ever guaranteed.

They will have a nice pool of players to choose from but like any other club that will go through a transition year of putting the players together, you will first have a "Storm" before the calm of moving forward . There will be some upset parents but team will ultimately be in a better place.

It is possible that the club could screw this up but there is reason to believe that team will come out the other side just fine.

Anonymous said...

FCV did get out of their pool at WAGS.
Won bracket and lost to Atlanta Top Hat Gold 1-0 in final.

Anonymous said...

are we all this naive to think that most of the posts on here are not coming from coaches from PDA, match fit, Penn fusion, bucks, East Meadow, etc looking to get kids to come to their programs. No parent in their right mind would post anything that entices kids from any other club to come and try out for the team their child is on and potentially take their child's spot. We are not fools.

Anonymous said...

true. Seems like posts that prop up any club and how great they couldn't be are coming from within. Who else would have that kind of knowledge.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, meant "could be"...

Anonymous said...

indeed. No doubt posts are placed here to get the peons ready for cuts that are coming, changes that are coming, new kids that are already guaranteed spots that are coming. Etcetera.this blog is a joke. Most of the info blogged here is from those with incentives to improve their own position.

Anonymous said...

This is 11:18. Perhaps you have a question you would like me to answer about another ecnl club to give equal time.

Anonymous said...

11:48

Actually we are both wrong. FCV went 1-0-2 in pool play and did in fact advance, but they lost in the semi finals to Tophat. I knew they weren't in the finals, forgot there were semis there, should have looked it up. Fact remains, just about every prediction on here had Cinn winning, and I wouldn't be supprised to see teams no one is expecting in the finals.

Anonymous said...

How many of the pre-ECNL teams have players playing up in age? I thought this wasn't allowed. Must be a damn good player to be playing up. I don't see too many players on the girls side playing up like I see with the boys.

Anonymous said...

Has JeffCup actually informed teams yet that some flights may be cancelled due to wet fields, or was that just educated speculation on here?

Anonymous said...

I think that the East Meadow Hotshotz will win the top flight at Jefferson Cup!

Anonymous said...

Speculation. Rain today in Richmond. Dry the next 2. Rain Saturday. Might try to get teams on turf. 8v8 games may be cancelled. Lower 11v11 flights may go as well.

Anonymous said...

NJXMF coach does not train the team. NJXMF coach still does not know the names of all of the players. NJXMF coach does coach with cell phone in use.
All in the name of keeping the manager in the game and for "one more year".

Anonymous said...

Has MF announced who will coach the U14s? The information on the tryout link does not mention coach name.

Anonymous said...

@136 , yes they can play up and everyone knows that. Most so called players - playing up happen to have a late birthdate, August , September for their school year , but are in the same grade as everyone else and really the same age. Im sure there are a few that truly play up , when they are clearly a year plus younger than everyone else and in the lower grade. When they change the age brackets , some of the ones playing up could end up two years down from half the team they currently play on.

Anonymous said...

7:56.

It appears that there are some 9-2002 playing with a lot of 9-2001's. Isn't that a year gap and truly playing up. ?

Anonymous said...

what?

Anonymous said...

Meaning. Playing up goes by biological year and has nothing to do with grade. If your kid plays at an age group where other girls on the team can be a year or more older than her then she is playing up even if girl is in same grade. That girl is at a biological disadvantage against some of the older girls in the league. Worrying about grade originated with town teams and was once a concern during the recruiting years for showcasing. That is no longer the case.

Anonymous said...

What percentage of U13 are 8th graders? Maybe 20%?

Anonymous said...

I would say there or less. A lot of late birthdays 8 or 9 2001's stayed back to 7th grade. Also some 10-2001's and younger skipped a grade.

Anonymous said...

If a kid misses the cut off by a few weeks that is a cusp kid and not really playing up as in a kid significantly younger but too talented for their own age group.

On my own kids team, the three best players are technically "playing up". They be not be appropriate players to play on age as they are very strong with playing with their grade. When they get the chance to play with the grade older team, that is when I consider them "playing up" even though that is technically two years up.

Anonymous said...

9:14

"What percentage of U13 are 8th graders? Maybe 20%?"

Yes I agree. On my D's team there is only 4 8th graders out of 18 kids. They are technically playing down because of their birth date. When these girls go to ODP they have to compete against mostly U14's.
Our national teams, at least on womens side, are made up of girls mostly with 1st half of the year birth dates.

Anonymous said...

Up down. It does not matter. The truly talented will develop. Just play with s great coach. And a great bunch of kids for your age group

Anonymous said...

At what point is daddy coach should still be allowed to coach his daughter in a club?

Anonymous said...

11:13, Is that team successful? Does the coach, coach the team the same as a trainer would? Also, what level of play are you talking about? I do not see it being a problem IF the daddy coach knows the game and coaches the team the same way a trainer would

Anonymous said...

Not when he coaches. Perhaps he insist on playing his daughter than the rest.

Anonymous said...

12:06 AM, parents of good players always want their kids playing with top talent..

Anonymous said...

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=954664041213674&set=vb.186667831346636&type=2&theater&notif_t=like

hahaha

Anonymous said...

What's funny about it?? I don't get it.
Good for them.
I do have to question your motives however.
Is there a reason you posted that?

Anonymous said...

So true 1126, not just playing with but also playing against. That's why playing in top flights, high level tournaments/leagues is a huge consideration for the top players.

Anonymous said...

Good interview. Nice job Coach Frank!

Anonymous said...

I have seen post's about father coaches and understand the upset and the perception of bias that is inherent when a father is either the head coach of a team that his daughter plays for or has some influence because he is involved with a team in some fashion so that he may influence descision making.

My older daughter had two coaches in her youth soccer career that happen to be father coaches. Both were very good coaches and both kids deserved to be on the team.

But there was no doubt that their child was given a boost by the presence of her father on the side line.

That point was never debatable to anyone on the team.

The real issue was how much of a boost!

It did not mean that the child was not a good player.

The question was always - how much of a boost does that child get from the presence of her father being on the field.

1)Does she remain on the field longer than other children of similar ability.

2)Are more mistakes tolerated for her than the other kids.

3)is she given more time to learn a position than the other kids of similar ability

4)Does the coach always try to put her in a position to succeed and protect her. While others of the same ability have a much shorter lease

5)Does he subtly shift better players away from her position.

6)Does she get the benefits of being in the identification programs when other girls of similar abilities do not get such benefits.

The inherent conflict is always there and is self evident but the boost that a child receives will vary from father coach to father coach.

All will tell you Including( US Club Soccer), that no matter the best of intentions-At the elite youth level, it is highly recommended that any coach that coaches a high level team past the ages of u12 should not have the appearance of any inherent bias's by coaching their daughter on a particular team.

Having said this, some clubs ignore this policy.






Soccer Nut


Anonymous said...

I have no issue with a parent coach. I am familiar with 2 coaches at this level. One coach record to date looks very impressive while other coach record is a little less desirable. These 2 coaches personally understand the game and do a good job. I would not have an issue being apart of any of these 2 teams. This topic comes up on this blog once a year. Nothing that has happened over the past 12 months proves to me that neither of these coaches deserve to be where they are.

I can not comment on EM coach.

Anonymous said...

Actually, at this age group, all 3 u13 ecnl teams in the NJ, NY area either have a father as a head coach or as an Assistant coach.

i wonder if that the same in PA or Va. or Mass.

Anonymous said...

If I had to 'guess' I think 11:13's post was motivated by most of your points soccer nut.

And... I'm fairly certain we are all aware of the intended target.

Anonymous said...

Has the jeff cup made any statement about possibly canceling anything for the weekend? Last weekend for the boys there were indications all week that the tournament might not happen. Where are you getting the information that flights may be cancelled this weekend? I checked their website and twitter and haven't seen anything, unlike last week

Anonymous said...

Nothing is getting cancelled. Too much on the line, and its only rain, unlike last week when snow/ice was involved. Its time to gas-up the car, and get granny in the back.

Anonymous said...

Nothing yet posted indicating tournament will be cancelled.

Anonymous said...

I think you can get away with this this year, but next year U14, no more Dad coaches the team B.S. At our club, there are no Dad’s that coach their own teams, they also rotate coaches, which I like very much. Its a much more professional approach.

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Anonymous said...

Does your coach do any of the things mentioned by s nut?

Anonymous said...

That is the stupidest thing I continue to hear, if he goes, we go. Ask the u15 WC team parents if they chose to go to Albertson. Its a huge mistake to tie your wagon to a particular person, because ultimately they are not loyal to you, they make choices that do not factor-in anyone except their own family, and you are not part of the family, sorry.

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Anonymous said...

Daddy coached kids always, always gets the benefit of the doubt. And every patent and kid on the team knows it and nothing will be done about it. We all just live with it.

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Anonymous said...

What are you blabbering about 5:55? And who is talking about Bethesda and that ancient tourney. This is the first time that I have graced everyone with my astute tournament picks, and FCV will win simply because they will have an advantage over PL in the first game. Cincy will go 1-1-1 and come in third in their bracket behind PF. Although your turf theory holds some merit, it will not matter as only Virginia and BRYC will be able to hold their width while playing their first games. Those teams will also win their first games and end up in the finals. It is written, it is fact
Seth The Soothsayer.

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Anonymous said...

Any Club official that allows a dad to coach team regardless of how good the coach is -is only doing so because he thinks he can get away with it.

They all understand the conflict.

Some will down play it but they know.

They just think they can get away with it. So they do.

if they start to lose real quality players to the competition than the policy changes.

until then business as usual




Anonymous said...

No sense in turning around 7:35, because everyone's ahead of you. If they played on beach sand in the rain, the first place results would remain the same. The only flip might be legacy and Wildcats for 2nd and 3rd. I've noticed you have not put anything out there other than to criticize my accurate predictions. Unbiased predictions are hard for the untrained or for parents of a F1 team that is playing. One of which you are, or maybe both. Virginia wins. It is written. It is fact.
Seth the Soothsayer

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Anonymous said...

Oh Seth, my predictions were posted on here 4 weeks ago, I will update them from Richmond before first kickoff and we can compare Sun. Tell me o wise one, how many of those teams have you actually watched play in the last 12 months? I've watched 5 btw. You're entire credibility went out the window picking PF with 2 injured starters to somehow finish ahead of Calvert and Cinncinnati. You originally had them winning the bracket didn't you. Even one of their parents had to come on here and tell you they won't. They need all their girls to compete at that level, but the same could be said of the other teams as well I guess. You have too high of an opinion of the NE ECNL teams incl WC I think. And you think BRYC, a team that wasn't even in D1 originally is going to win their bracket? I would have given them an edge until the south also got dumped on, they've been indoors like everyone else for awhile. So unless some team just happens to have a full field in a dome somewhere to practice in these last couple of weeks no one has that advantage anymore. And FCV is the safe bet, but they won't win their pool either. Trust me, I know things you don't. But hey we can talk Sunday, if you're right on half of your predictions I'll give you and your crystal ball credit.

Anonymous said...

That's the spirit 10:03!! Now your at least trying to back up your thoughts. Those were predictions four weeks ago? I thought you were just trying to spell the teams names and hoping for corrections. There is one team I haven't seen in the last six months, so you got me there. But my in depth analysis on each teams head to head play and knowledge of not only injuries, but players being used in different roles makes the difference. There are two recent injuries that are huge to two teams and that will affect them greatly. You have no idea because your contacts are limited as is your vision. It is written. It is fact.
Seth the Soothsayer.

Anonymous said...

F1 Winning% at
WAGS, Spirit, Bethesda
Disney, CASL, FC Stars

Group A
0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)
0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)

Group B
0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
0.500 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)

##################
Seth's picks
F1
A Bracket
1. BRYC
2. Penn Fusion
3. Cincy
4. Calvert

B Bracket
1. FC Virginia
2. Wildcats
3. Penn Legacy
4. Tri State

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Anti-Seth will post prior to kickoff
Sorry, couldn't find your picks from weeks ago.
to re-post

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I like this game as well and will re-post
my picks.

A - is wide open between the top 3.
Sorry, just don't Calvert will win a
game similar to Disney.

Cincinnati
PennFusion
BRYC
Calvert

B - I also thinkFCV wins this group with the other
3 finishing in any order. NJ Wildcats have tied both PL & Tri
that tells me they areall of similar abilities.

FCV
Tri
NJ Wildcats
PL

Wildcard will be the weather.
Looks to be warm but wet.
Field Type will play a big roll grass vs turf

Good luck all

Anonymous said...

Winning % at same majors non F1 results

A
100% WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)
57% PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
42% MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)
33% NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)

B
(F1) PDA AJAX (NJ)
(F1) NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
83% RICHMOND UNITED PRE-ECNL (VA)
50% CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL (ON)

I also think WC wins the A bracket.
The B bracket isalittle harder to pick.
We have 2 teamsthat have played on F1 teams
at tournaments this year plus the host club's team
which did a little better than we gave them credit.
Not sure Cleveland can win this.

I can see an all NYE final.
I don't think this flight has a true heavy weight like FCV in F1
to close to call should be some great soccer good luck all.

Anonymous said...

Reposting my predictions for JeffCup:

Since I did well guessing the top bracket, I’ll push my luck and guess the finals too:
Championship: Cincinnati over FCV
Elite Orange: PDA Ajax over World Class
Elite Black: (assuming A vs B C vs D): FC Carolina (who beat PA Classics) over PDA Dragons (who beat STA) vs.
Superior Orange: CASL over HMMS (CASL should be up a bracket)
Superior Black: Empire over Harford
Superior White: Athletica (but look to Michigan as the upset) over McLean
Platinum Orange: Century over Blasters
Platinum Black: PDA Shore Fusion
Platinum White: PA Crew (Crew should be up a bracket)
January 21, 2015 at 3:25 PM

In the top brackets, I would not be surprised to see Wildcats make the finals given their style of play and what will likely be poor field conditions. If however the flight was played on artificial turf, I would change my pick to FCV over Cincinnati now since FCV has been practicing outside despite the snow as well as inside.



Anonymous said...

9:59 Thanks.

It can go down that way - when you have great teams playing each other anything is possible. No really crazy out of your A$% picks.

Don't cut Oakwood short - I think the win Superior white and have an easy time. They should be up a few flights for sure. The NYCSL NPL crew can validate what I said about Oakwood or they can be myth busters.

Anonymous said...

assuming if anything was cancelled or rescheduled this weekend for Jeff Cup, they would've announced by now..
Get ready for the mud!

Anonymous said...

Dear 12:11.

You win the Douche-bag of the month award, congrats!

Anonymous said...

Striker Park features 14 full-size Bermuda grass soccer fields, one 120 by 75 yard lighted synthetic turf field and five 80 by 55 yard Bermuda grass soccer fields.

Mary B. Stratton park are the first county-owned synthetic turf facilities in Chesterfield County and the Richmond Region. The two 70 x 110 yard fields include permanent lining for soccer, field hockey and boy's lacrosse, complementing the seven-field facility already in place at Ukrop Park.

Ukrop Park is a 45.5-acre sports complex featuring seven lighted athletic fields and a full-scale aquatic center. Conveniently located at the intersection of Chippenham Parkway and Route 10 in Chesterfield County, this environmentally friendly, state-of-the-art complex utilizes the latest technology with Musco lighting and Sportexe synthetic turf on two of its seven fields.

Anonymous said...

12:18 why did you call 12:11 that.

I don't see anything bad.

Anonymous said...

difference between WC U15 team and U13 team is that this U13 have been together for a long time. U15 team came over from another club

Anonymous said...

Mud = excuses

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Anonymous said...

12:55 -

Are you saying that the mud makes no difference? That the mud shouldn't make a difference to a team that practices short passes and ball control? That the mud shouldn't help a team that plays the long ball over ball control? That the mud will not make these games sloppy?

Anonymous said...

Try outs:
April 12, 26 = NJ Rush

April 21, 28, May 5 = FC Copa

April 22, 24, 29 = NJCSA

April 28, May 5 = MF ECNL/NENPL
April 17, 24 = MF NENPL North

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MERCER FC SPURS NPL - which NPL are they in?

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Soccer Association of Columbia joining NPL??

Anonymous said...

Oakwood is in NE NPL, not sure how the NYCSL NPL crew can help with that info, but yes they are a good team.

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Anonymous said...

F1 - Final is on turf

BRYC - no games on turf
Calvert - 1 game on turf
Ciny - 1 game on turf
PF - No games on turf

FCV - no games on turf
Wildcats - 1 game on turf
PL - 1 game on turf
Tri state - 2 games on turf

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Anonymous said...

You go Crush guy , send us your parking lot updates like you did three years ago when you last won something....

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Anonymous said...

1:42 yes he is with the team that their club chose not to spend the dues money on to send to jeff cup.
He is sick his DD and her team is staying home and is trying desperately to attack the tournament(it will be cancelled, it will be a disaster in the mud,), but the best one is just in case wildcats do well he is already setting up his excuses by claiming that they will somehow have an advantage if it rains.
Which of the nj Non-ECNL teams is staying home? Guess who???

Anonymous said...

1:40 Oakwood is New England NPL this year - last year they were NYCSL NPL

NEFC won 17 out of 18 games and finished with 51 points. While Oakwood won 16 out of 18 with 1 tie and finished with 49. NJ Crush was a distant 3rd with 31 points. NYCSL NPL got lucky they went to New England NPL

The Top 4 teams from the U14 thru U18 age groups in the New England NP will compete against the Top 4 teams from the NYCSL NPL. Teams will be competing to advance to the National Cup during this Crossover Cup Event.

Anonymous said...

1:44 How did you get that info.?
Is it on the website??

Anonymous said...

With FC Delco Players cup registration closed.
The EDP Cup is turning out to be a nice tournament.

EDP CUP 2015 SPRING [U11-U14]
5/23/2015-5/24/2015

F1 Flight Value Projection = 6,500
Should be 7,500 but FSA decided to give their best
GS account to their 3rd team.

F2 will benefit greatly from this.


11 CES Calvert Crew White
73 Western United Pioneers FC Red
113 FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 01
120 TSF Academy 01/02G
127 Jersey Shore Boca Jr FC Fusion

Anonymous said...

Not making any excuses... get ready for the Mud! Can't wait. Sick of this damned snow! Let's play ball!

Anonymous said...

2:52 if you were asking me 2:39 http://www.newenglandgirlsnpl.com/

Now all US Club needs to do is Send the ECNL Champion and NPL Champion to it's National Cup and have it's ECNL teams playing in State Cups and Regionals to qualify for National Cup vs Non-ECNL/NPLteams and they could have the NUMBER 1 Youth national title in the Country. let's see how they play their cards.

Anonymous said...

Why would the ECNL Elitist faction ever want that? They strive for exclusivity, and despair at comparisons to NPL. Its just bad for business, you know, losing to B league team, real bad.

Anonymous said...

We are not worthy...

Anonymous said...

PDA AJAX over WC 9:59? Whaaaaattt? PDA will be able to grab one win and that its. With a good bounce or a set play score they may pick up a tie somewhere. But they will not get past the Cleveland Royals. Cleveland will win the tournament and make their bracket look easy.

Anonymous said...

Nycsl had 4 division champs at U12

Anonymous said...

Cupcakes and meaningless titles. That's like saying Legacy won the Fall Classic

Anonymous said...

Why so bitter? It's a game, enjoy the experience!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if some of you are aware you may not be as anonymous as you think.

Better shut the yap - and might want to watch your back on certain weekends.

Anonymous said...

Really 10:03??? Look at you being the new version of the telephone tough guy. If you can't take the give and take on this blog, maybe you should pick up a new hobby. Like making yourself a new skirt to match those girlie feelings you showing.

Anonymous said...

Wow, the maturity on this blog... Pretty bad if you can say your U13 is more mature than you. I'd say there's a good chance of it with some of the people on here. So sad how wrapped up people get in this. Stop living through your kids. Just enjoy.

Anonymous said...

11:50 just one question when you say

"So sad how wrapped up people get in this. Stop living through your kids. Just enjoy"

What's the difference between you and all these people you talk about?

Aren't we all in the same place doing the same thing in different ways? Aren't we all wrapped up in this thing if we are on here reading and or posting?

Anonymous said...

to post informatlon or predictions is one thing. To be down right rude, immature or just plain idiotic is another. Enjoying and supporting your kid and the sport that your kid loves is one thing, taking it to the point where you look obsessive is just pathetic.

Enjoy the weekend supporting your kid. Leave the bitterness at home. Good luck to all!

Anonymous said...

Win or lose, I hope everyone has a great weekend down in Virginia (especially the girls). I am predicting safe travel both ways for all you knuckleheads. It is written. It is fact.
Seth The Soothsayer

Anonymous said...

YOU DA MAN SETH, for now...

Anonymous said...

Yes 8:24 the hate and obsession of some of those on this bog is pathetic.
for parents to take a kids sport and generate so much hate and bitterness to others in the sport is truly pathetic.
good word.
Let it go and try and find some happiness in your kids soccer career.
It is short and will be over before you know it.

Anonymous said...

Finally, a prediction from Seth that I like!

Anonymous said...

psychopaths on this blog, who is Seth? Lets talk about EDP Cup=

11 CES Calvert Crew White
73 Western United Pioneers FC Red
113 FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 01
120 TSF Academy 01/02G
127 Jersey Shore Boca Jr FC Fusion

Any chance at all BOCA or TSF will make NJ proud in their own state in May? I see BOCA did win final in top bracket in November against ECNL team from FC Bucks, but that was a weaker field. TSF is always good, they have beaten teams of this caliber......what are the chances these two teams can bring some sunshine to NJ this year?

Anonymous said...

To be honest, not much. FSA and Calverts are very good teams.

Anonymous said...

3:25

If you want to know the answer to that you need to ask Seth. He has all the answers.

Anonymous said...

TSF making New Jersey proud? The way they carry themselves win or lose should be good enough. But if your talking about performance, they will have a tough time making people forget about the 4-0 stomping they took at the feet of Atletico (currently ranked 6th in NY make beleive GS points). All those teams have a ways to go in regards to performance on the field. But not off of it. It is written, It is fact.
Seth the Soothsayer

Anonymous said...

TSF chases got soccer pts. like no other club. They really know how to manipulate the system. Based on rankings, you would think their teams are fantastic. Not the case at all.

Anonymous said...

Every state has teams that when you look at the rankings, you think your team is playing a really good team. Then when the game is over its 3-0 or worse. Best to not believe or look at the GS rankings at all and ask Seth.

Anonymous said...

at 3:33 PM lol

Anonymous said...

Finals predictions:

Tri State over Cinn
NYSC over MDU
YMS over Galaxy
CASL over Athletico(yes that can happen)
Pipeline over Harford
Rage over MCLean
GPS over Pumas
PA Crew over VA Legacy(also possible)

Good luck to all and try to stay dry!

Anonymous said...

How does TSF chase got soccer points like no other club? Looking at their tournament record, they are playing in quality tournaments and not getting any points from them because they are flighted too high. Looks like the have some points from State Cup and EDP. How exactly is that "like no other club"? What system are they manipulating?

Anonymous said...

Any Jeff Cup updates on early games?

Anonymous said...

Wildcats tie. Wold class tie. Ajax tie. Sta tie. NYSC wins by 1 in a close one. Crush loses by 1 on a corner kick late in the game. Didn forget anyone important? Virginia ecnl wins.

Anonymous said...



If both PDA/MF ECNL teams had coaching changes going into next year they would both be better off.

Both need a fresh start going into important years for the girls.

Anonymous said...



Sounds like some Crush players will be attending a few other tryouts this Spring.

Anonymous said...

That's what you took from the score update ? STA should run away with the third bracket. A tie for them is bad. They are ranked 1 in nj. Wildcats tied as usual. NYSC seems to have improved - or are showing their inconsistency - we'll see.

Anonymous said...



How is Crush even in that bracket to begin with?

Wildcats,STA,Crush will not win their brackets

Early in Spring season still to see who is on the rise and who is not.

Big year for tryouts.

Anonymous said...

1:07

Your daughter just called. You can pick her up from the movies now

Anonymous said...


We all know STA is not the 1 team in state and region.

They are a top 5 team in NJ if they add a few more players they can contend in these tournaments.

MF ECNL, PDA ECNL, Wildcats, MF NPL I would say ahead of them.

AJAX and STA be a good game for the 5th spot.







Anonymous said...


1:40

Seems to be disgruntled about something wonder what it could be?

Anonymous said...

FCV beats Legacy 1-0
Wildcats tie Tri State 0-0
FCV beats Tri State 2-1
Legacy and Wildcats 2-2
Not sure of other bracket yet

Anonymous said...

Disgruntled about corner kicks late in the game...

Anonymous said...

wildcats thru with win over fcv sunday.
fcv thru with tie or win vs wildcats.
tri state and legacy out of contention.

Anonymous said...

Good luck wildcats tomorrow!
NJ girls still alive in top flight!

Anonymous said...

World Class needs a win to advance in 2nd flight

As do Ajax and NYSC, who play each other (if they tie, Cleveland can vault them)

Top flight -

Wildcats advance with win over FC Virginia if it is by 1-0 or any 2 goal or greater margin

STA goes 4-0 all over YMS to advance to semi in 3rd flight

Good luck Wildcats, WC, NYSC, Ajax and STA, tomorrow. Nice to be playing for something Sunday.

Anonymous said...

4:59 is right - it is any Wildcat win.

Would be great to see

Represent, Cats!

Anonymous said...

Unless each team score 3+ goals.

In that case Cats would be a point short

Anonymous said...

Packing up granny and pooch, heading back back early tomorrow...

Anonymous said...

Holy crap these fields are shot right now..can't believe they are going ahead..

Anonymous said...

Nice work Ajax and wildcats, good luck tomorrow.

Not surprised by crush results, I assume the excited dad, won't be blogging much more...

Thought dragons would do better in 3rd bracket.



Anonymous said...

Fields are lakes. Games were a joke. They should've cancelled tourney,

Anonymous said...

I don't see WCFC, pda Ajax and wildcats making excuses.

Anonymous said...

Another embarrassing weekend for NJ soccer. Sure can talk the talk. But can't walk the walk when it comes to top tournaments with top teams from other states.

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about, final scores aren't out and Ajax and wildcats are doing fine, and those are the only decent teams from nj that went.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, 11:27. NJ and PA teams have done well.

Wildcats, Ajax, STA, WCFC, PF, PA Classics, 1776, Ukrainians all in semis or the equivalent of a semifinal today.

Out: PL, Crush

Readers of this blog should be pleased.

Anonymous said...

Dragons are the #2 PDA team, correct? Sta?Njcsa old force?. Oh I forgot the mighty storm and MF ecnl were not there.

Anonymous said...

And PL didn't even do badly. They just happened to face arguably the best U13 team in the tournament in their first game, losing by one goal.

Anonymous said...

I think the poster commented on nj teams. Half everyone posted were pa and NY. Sta out!! Wildcats next because a tie doesn't help. Mr. Stats guy, breakdown please of records for nj NY and pa

Anonymous said...

How do you get semi final out of this tourney. Just because one team happens to play their toughest team in the third game and the other played them first does not mean that the first team is in the semis..... They are all level until all three game results are in. But if it makes you feel better..... Yikes. Just play.

Anonymous said...

You're being unreasonable. Regardless of how the schedule plays out, the goal after Saturday's games is to be alive on Sunday.

One poster said NJ teams crapped the bed, another said many are still alive on Sunday. I must have missed your "yikes" post after the negative post about NJ.

Anonymous said...

PDA Shore and AJAX are in finals of their brackets.

Anonymous said...

Jeff cup shows true colors. NJCSA embarrassed in lower bracket as well. PDA Shore STA does well considering brackets. NJ rush up there. Cats should do better again considering claims.

Anonymous said...

NJ Rush in u14. NJCSA B team fared well in lower bracket. Ajax is just a great team in NJ. Cats only real team from NJ able to play in top bracket. Good for them Certainly tried.

Anonymous said...

12:29.... The preliminary round is a best of three. Not two but three. After the three games(2 Sat and 1 Sun) then you can rank everyone based on all three games. To rank any earlier makes zero sense as the games are in no particular order.....

Anonymous said...

Cincy FC VA in finals it seems. Not even close to other teams in bracket. But people will still say ECNL does not have better talent I am sure....

Anonymous said...

What was the score of the Penn Legacy game?

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to PDA Shore and TSF for being the only NJ winners at Jeff Cup.

Anonymous said...

Fc Virginia 4-Wildcats 0.

Be curious to hear how wildcats found this team compared to rest of competition.

I am not a Wildcat hater As a matter of fact wildcats fared well until running into this team. Be curious to know the difference.

Anonymous said...

Called ECNL talent. That is what we will all see moving in to next season. I know many hate it, but it is the way it goes. Always.....

Anonymous said...

Wildcats got waxed by the only high caliber team in their flight and tied the other two. Wildcats train to beat up the other team and thunder foot the ball forward followed by aggressive chase and pressure. They train it. They believe in it and they are proud of it. It's also not a bad recipe for some level of college soccer prep because some college coaches also play that style. But Wildcats are a far cry from a top team and don't need a soccer coach in charge but instead a track coach with a go, go, go mentality barking from the touch line. And that they have.

Anonymous said...

The win now mentality will always fall behind the top. What we have all been saying. This will happen more and more as ECNL teams move to next level.... Tough to change history as this happens to teams like this over and over again.....Nothing wrong with it but please do not say that this team will be different. 4-0 waxing is not what you see when teams are close in talent.

Anonymous said...

Looks like PA teams finished in 2nd into brackets. Nice showing.

Anonymous said...

Pda shore congrats ... Same to tsf .

Anonymous said...

Wildcats lost to a better team today.
No excuses.
But played 2 pretty good teams even up on saturday.
To lose to the best team in the region, by far, is no disgrace.
FCV have now won 3 top tournaments in succession, disney, Bethesda and now Jeff Cup. We have played them in last 3 and have said all along they were best team we have played.
they also had a player who guested with them this weekend who scored a number of goals and was a difference maker today.
to say the other ecnl teams in nj or pa are on the same level is hilarious.
We have played them, they are not.

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Anonymous said...

"Got w2waxed by the first high caliber team they faced".ECNL Guy you are no closer than PL, Wildcats and Tri-State to FCV so please don't call yourself a high caliber team either then.

Anonymous said...

Cinn Cup Gold beat a pretty good Penn Fusion ecnl team 5-0 today, and then Cinn lost to FCV in finals 3-1.
Nuff said about fcv's level in relation to other team's in Region 1, including other ECNL League Teams..
Far, far superior.

Anonymous said...

That is kind of a bullshit thing (bringing a guest player to Jeff). There are a very good team anyway, why give people a reason to take away from your accomplishments. Plus, they had a deep bench. If I'm a FCV parent, I'm a little pissed about a having a guest player along.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 534 for that synopsis Wildcat parent. At least you didn't use the "meaningless game, played our subs" excuse, I will give you that but nothing else. Your script is old now.

Anonymous said...

@608.....Totally agree especially for top bracket. Those teams recruit the best talent & charge a big fee. No reason to bring a guest player to a tournament like this. From sound of things it wouldn't have mattered if she wasn't there but FCV should be little ashamed.

Anonymous said...

Why?

If FCV recruited a played to join this team for this Spring or next year. She should join team.

NJ Wildcats your team has not played the top teams in NJ this year. I am not sure if you ever played MF ECNL.

Get used this

Anonymous said...

The challenge with tournaments that are "send a check and we will seed you" is that you get some good teams and many hopeful teams with typically only 1-2 top teams. Wildcats is a borderline hopeful to good team and light years from being a top team. They are so-so against hopeful teams like the 2 teams they drew. And when they played a top team, the result was indicative of where they are on the development landscape. Wildcats is all about guest players as an organization so there should be no issues there. Wildcats is a top team among the C level teams. So long as they manage their schedule to win enough games against the hopefuls and so long as they rack up enough GS points (which is perfectly tailored to reward teams for beating the hopefuls) and so long as they keep their parent group convinced that being the top team among the mid range set is worthy of the $2500 per annum, then all will be well for them.

Anonymous said...

When have you played another ECNL team lately in a game that mattered like a tourney like this? All ECNL teams are all getting better. You are not. It is the style of play that eventually wins out. Please stop. It happens each and every year with a team that has results success until the real soccer starts..... Please just stop and move on..... It is the beginning of the end......

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