They seem pretty sure of what this team is going to become.Good for them. Taking my daughter down in the Spring.If you can't beat them join them
Re: "WC has 20 players..."Do some of them play for Hamm to get PT?Just curious.
EDPIt will be interesting....with such a strong group - pre ECNL and others this spring -Will ECNL teams' schedules get lighter whnit comes time to do ECNL only (exclude themselves from other comp)?And is this beneficial?
i suppose these ECNL teams will take themselves out of mass tournaments and will not play most teams in NJ anymore. they will be removed from general populace. They will schedule an occasional friendly against a high level non ECNL team. They will no doubt leave all this banter and talk about GOT Soccer points for those teams that require this system to be seen by colleges in the coming years of High school.
Get facts straight........ Gap still there and world doesn't have 20 players. mF an WCFC are solid teams
Good Luck : )
MF does not have 17 either.
I was the one that posted that info.I got me info from Matchfit website.also got info from ECNL website.It states that MF has 17 and World has 20.Perhaps the websites are wrong ?Anyone can obtain the info
Started with 17 players on roster from my understanding. 2 kids went to lesser programs, more at there level of play.
Who cares how many girls they have, its the 11 on the field that matter, not the 6-9 on the bench, and trust me when I say this, your pedigree matters not to us, we carry our own confidence, and we show it on the field...
6:33pm are you PDA, MF or WC?
Hahahah, no, why, is that required to comment?
633Bench players dont count?Well, first of al starters should be rotated at this level, at least to some extent.....With the best clubs all the players will contribute, even vs a top opponent in a key game.
Interesting matchup at MSC will be Crush and NYSC.NYSC is a sleeper......
Weak tournament, like last year.
Says the PDA/MF/WC dad...take your pick, they are all the same...
No, look at the teams playing. All very average teams at best.
Let em talk.......5 absolute elite teams there...
SIXMy badI see FC Stars North has recent wins vs Match Fit Black and Calvert
That is funny. Most u11 teams could win that bracket, except yours that couldn't win a u10 bracket.
Stronger division this year, no doubt - even minus Hicksville
Keep trying to get people to engage, this is you 5th attempt.
I'm wondering. What is the difference between TIP and ODP?Which would be the better road?I would appreciate any feedback.
7:36 There are many ways for a kid to be seen all these programs try to bring the best kids they identify into a setting to train/scrimmage each other. My Opinion - only:1. If they still have U.S. Soccer Training Centers: are open to the top players from any team, club or organization at no cost to the player. The purpose of the Training Center program is to identify the best players for the U.S. Soccer Youth National Team program. INVITATIONAL training sessions run by U.S. Soccer staff. Player recommendations provided by top local coachesNational Team scoutsAcademy clubsState AssociationsLocal clubsLeaguesCollege coaches2. id2 - I would put this as number 2 only becasue it is drawing from the below 3ECNL PDPNPL PDPEDP TIP3. ODP - Open tryouts4. Super Y ODP - USL ClubsThey all provide an avenue for our kids - which is better - in a way they are all the same - just different kids - some might say different levels of talent - I could argue that, but won't since I am a ECNL fan.Am I way off anybody?#2
These are good for the girls that play for lower level clubs, big additional cost and time. If you are at a so called premiere and have to do pay and do this on top of big fees already spent, should concern you.
8:11 ODP CostsTIp = There will be no cost for players to attend TIP Events #2
#2 beg to differSome TIP events do come at a cost.
Does anybody know why EDP is going to have so many more elite teams this spring, and why weren’t these team participating during the fall?P.S. So Crush Tsunami is going to play both NPL and EDP?
Yes, and practice three times a week and play at least 8 tournaments. We are setting the new standard for being obsessive.
9:15 I just copied from their website. You know better than me.10:30 this might be the writing on the wall for Region 1 leaguesUnder 12 GirlsThis year only the below teams joined:BRYC 01 ELITE VADOUG MILLER SOCCER DMS GU12 STEALTH NYWGREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT NYWPA CREW ACADEMY BLUE PAWPENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK PAERAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM NJ.When you compare that to EDP - No comparision.So for NPL teams why not do a Regional top league as well. If you carry big rosters more games for the kids.Anyway, I was a little shocked that only a few teams joined the R1 league this year. let's see next year when r1 Premier is up against EDP, this is to soon to make any forcasts.#2
Personally, I think they are going to forfeit some games, its just unreasonable to expect them to drive all-around the east coast playing 1 hour games.They will become the Hotshotz of NJ, in that they have to cancel games because of overbooking.P.S. It is ethically immoral to cancel scheduled games because of overbooking, its freaking rude, and unprofessional.
To 8:10,The USSF Training Centers will eventually be the best place to go for higher level training, but they have a ways to go in figuring out where to find the best players. At least this is the case in PA.In PA, the best players and training over the past four years has been with the Union Jrs. program, which is free to those who try out and make it.ODP is close in quality to Union Jrs, but is just a notch below them, I'd say. Huge overlap in the palyers from Union Jrs., but ODP has more, which dilutes the quality a bit.My kid is currently doing all of the above three, and right now the best players are found at Union Jrs., with ODP close behind. USSF Training is on an invitation only basis. And frankly, USSF is still figuring out which clubs have the best players. They only reached out to a few clubs the first time around. When I watched the USSF Training my first thought was "there is no way these are the best 25 2001-born players in the PAE". They'll figure it out eventually, but it will take a year or two for them to get to know the clubs.USSF Training is nice because it bypasses to poltics of ODP and puts the players right in front of the US National Team coaches. April Kater, the U14 National Pool coach, was at my daugther's first session.I have no experience with id2, TIP, or Super Y.PA Guy
I heard about the Union Jr. program a while ago, but haven't heard anything about it lately. Does anyone have insights about that program? I've read about it on their website, so I'm particularly interested in any first-hand insights.
Did I read correctly above that most of the two crush u17's are committed? I have not seen any on top drawer? Are they playing in any college showcases?
I know I get stuck on ECNL - but the below leagues are Division 2 behinf NWSL and a bunch of them have u12 teams that we talk about or have been posted on this site.These teams for sure will attract eyes on them as well - as long as they play in the bigger tournaments.=============================USL W-LeagueConfederation CONCACAFFounded 1995Divisions 4Number of teams 25Levels on pyramid 2Fredericksburg ImpactLong Island Rough RidersNew Jersey WildcatsNew York Magic-FA EuroNorth Jersey ValkyriesVirginia Beach PiranhasWashington Spirit Reserves==============================Women's Premier Soccer LeagueConfederation US SoccerFounded 1997Divisions 11Number of teams 70Levels on pyramid 2Northeast ConferenceNew England DivisionBoston Aztec MABoston Breakers College Academy (WPSL) MACFC Passion CTNew England Mutiny MASeacoast United Mariners MESeacoast United Phantoms NHMid-Atlantic DivisionEmpire United Buffalo NYFC Westchester NYSyracuse Lady Knights NYTri-City Celtics NYUnited FC Binghamton NYYankee Lady FC CTTri-State DivisionBuxmont Torch FC PAFC Bucks PAFC Lehigh Valley Lady Sonic PALong Island Fury NYNew Jersey Blaze NJNew York Athletic Club NY2
EDP Divisions NorthWorld Class CharltonAlbertsonCFC WestPDA StormNJ CrushNJXGFAMatch Fit BlackEast Meadow HotshotzNew York SCCentralPDA AjaxJersey PremierNJ WildcatsNJ ForceEast BrunswickFC CopaAtlantic United SJEBSouth DivisonRageFC ViriginiaAtlantic UnitedPittsgrovePipelineCalvert CrewFC MilanMaryland RushFuture MonarchsWWPSARest teams are in 2nd flights
Why is PDA Storm in North and FC Copa in Central?
Interesting if what you say is true. EDP will put 3 of their EDL teams in 2nd Flight? Manhattan SC G'01 Pride - RedSmithtown StarsTSF AcademyYou are saying the below is 2nd Flight?Beachside SC CT BeachsideSDFC SambaCFC Arsenal SkyEast Meadow Sky BlueFSA FC U12 GIRLS WHITEMatch Fit Academy FC BlueNew Jersey Dynamo '01 Morgan BlueRamapo Valley SC Tornados '02World Class FC '01Hamm 8v8?Kosmos FC NikhNASA United U12 GirlsNew Jersey Dynamo '01 MorganRAGE FC Premier LibertySABA Brooklyn City West Chester United SC Predators'01GI am very curious to see what the flights/divisions look like - some really good teams.Now imagine those R1 Colonial teams actually picked the right league.EDP setting themselves up nice as the NPL alternative and the R1 place to be? Do they become a US Club Soccer Premier League to send their champion to a National event or do they stay the way they are and attract from both sides of the fence?#2
"Anonymous said... I heard about the Union Jr. program a while ago, but haven't heard anything about it lately. Does anyone have insights about that program? I've read about it on their website, so I'm particularly interested in any first-hand insights.February 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM"My 2001 has tried ot initially for Union Jrs back in 2008, wherein she made the developmental group (select was the highest group). Eventually she made the select group, but it took a few tryouts. As far as I know, this will be the last spring for the 2001 girls.I have another daughter who is a 2003. Last spring they asked a few clubs to nominate some girls born in 2003 for Union Jrs. They had a tryout and chose about 36 girls for 2003. They will add new girls, but only if they are in the top half of the current group.
EDPCentral is a B level divisionSouth is a mix of A and BNorth is the elite
The sleeper has awakened...
Where did you find these divisions ? North division is made up of 6 ECNL teams. Which obviously won't be playing EDP in the fall.
I assume its just temporary for the fall. Its a way of consolidating the competition so these teams can play meaningful games in the fall.Then the ECNL teams are off to Pre ECNL
I meant Spring
So someone is making loosely veiled accusations that Crush will be taking on a schedule that will force them to disappoint other teams by cancelling games? Does anyone believe this poop? Is anyone really dumb enough to do so?And others are basing their opinions of the Tsunami team on results earned by 8 v 8 match pitting their "B" team against STA?There's some interesting stuff posted on this board that is worth consideration. But there's also some misinformed, misunderstood and utterly misguided crap on here too.
Who plays that much soccer at u12.? Your team is over the top. Look what happened to your u13 team, dropped off the map and the blog in one year.
Night-dude, it's too much for such young girls. Spending most of your time driving is counter to the concept of spending most of your time training, really. I like Crush, they are a good team, but playing in both leagues is just dumb, and really not necessary this spring. Do you think EDP will not be enough of a challenge, or do you just like visiting relatives in Mass.?
Will there be any of these great NJ teams down in Wildwood next weekend for USFF Regional Fusal Championships, any????
Crush have just 7 NPL games this spring, over I think just 4 weekends.It's 5X a week many weeks, true (3 practice days, games SAT/SUN). I am not a physiologist. Maybe someone with some expertise can tell us if this is too much at their growth stage.
Is 7:24 suggesting Crush should play EDP and drop out of NPL?That's a strange suggestion. You play an entire season. Dont bow out in the middle. NPL sets up nicely for national competition as Tsunami gets to the older age groups. Again - dropping OUT for spring not a consideration.Now - you could say turn DOWN the EDP invite but seeing the strength of the division - I dont agree
Don't think this is final - NJ wildcats in 2nd Div just doesn't look right - maybe move storm to North and Wildcats to Central.1st Division North (Projected Value = 9,000)7 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)13 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)36 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) 43 SDFC SAMBA (NJ) 61 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (LADY FALCONS) (NJ)123 CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE (CT)899 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)n/a ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (NYE) 1st Division Central (Projected Value = 9,000)5 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ)8 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)25 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ)46 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ)48 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS (NJ)54 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH BLUE (NJ)69 TSF ACADEMY (NJ)82 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 1st Division South (Projected Value = 5,078)18 FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 (VA)62 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)64 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)412 FC MILAN 01G (VA)1550 FUTURE MONARCHS BLACK (MD)2744 MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G (MD)2nd Division North (Projected Value = 3,000)84 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM (NYE)116 EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE (NYE)124 FSA FC U12 GIRLS WHITE (CT)131 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)150 MANHATTAN G'01 PRIDE - RED (NYE)307 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC LADY JAGUARS (BLUE) (NJ)404 CFC ARSENAL SKY (CT)1907 SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE) 2nd Division Central (Projected Value = 2,438)35 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL (NJ)237 EAST BRUNSWICK SC LIGHTNING (NJ)242 SJEB '01 (NJ)252 PITTSGROVE SC RUSH 01/02 (NJ)324 WWPSA SPURS (NJ)372 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)413 ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ) 1st Division (Projected Value = 2,292)71 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)169 NEW JERSEY DYNAMO NJD '01 MORGAN BLUE (NJ)213 RAGE FC PREMIER LIBERTY (NJ) #2
#2Are these the latest from EDP-They don't look right.Even location of teams are way off
not sure if this will be final, It might have changed.Looks like Westchester United PA - dropped.Can our PA folks confirm this? If they dropped then it might be right - if they didn't then it's still a work in progress since they are not listed 8v8.#2
I don't know for sure either way, but it wouldn't surprise me if WCUSC dropped out of EDP. They were not happy at all with the level of competition in the 8v8 group. Parental consensus is they should have stayed in PAGS.
where did you get this list?
Governor Christie sent it to me...
Why are they paling 8 v 8, not enough field space in Pennsylvania?
If Governor Christie sent this to you, it's a lie. Just like he is. Don't believe these flights.
#2 here who's 2:24?
Only time will tell, besides what does it matter if they are changed or not. #2
Is East Brunswick even playing 11v11? I was told they only have 11 girls on the team now.
PDA Storm not playing with top teams, that has to hurt. Finally someone stuck to PDA, all these years of PDA running JAGS, playing all home games. Hand picking teams to play them. Now EDP states this is the way it is! You are nobody, just another club, no special treatment
as person that was a team manager for years. I can not say how pleased I am to see PDA not getting what they wanted. Finally, I do not have hear the coordinator state to me, that is none of my business why PDA has no away games and why I traveled to play them twice. Jags Lady needs to wake up, teams will leave Jags and head to EDP!
Are you guessing at these brackets? Not on EDP website, Or are they actually listed.Seems like different post state different brackets. It would seem to me that pre-ecnl teams would like to play each other since they all joined this spring that they would have spoke to EDP director.
7:47 this stuff is top Secret - You had a guy post where info came from then you had someone post the ink (why?), probably the same guy who posted the link to MSC event only to have them disable the link.Well at least we now know that people from MSC and EDP are on this board.
Wildcats being in the Central Division in EDP doesn't look right?? Have you taken a look at the standings for the fall? NEWS ALERT: They came in 4th!!!! They couldn't beat:NJXPDA AjaxNJ ForceEast BrunswickWho ever said they're an ELITE team? They're a good team no doubt but come on....
7:54 first keep in mind we are talking about something that was a work in progress no doubt. Since EDP felt they had to disable the link to stop us idiots from talking about it on a board that doesn't matter.No one said they were elite - but I think they had played well enough in the State Cup and the entire Summer/Fall season to earn a spot in the 1st Division - not the 2nd Division Central. I'm sure some stuff will be changed.They are a growing league and no doubt will be the place be for teams looking for regional comp. If they play their cards right (I know you are on here reading mr/mrs disabling links) - you can really make a difference in youth since you have teams from CT, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD & VA participating, so I guess this board isn't a waste of time like some people like to call it - it's a forum to speak about youth soccer and have fun with the rivalries parents have with Clubs/Teams as long as no one is being thrown under a bus.
Hahaha, everyone gets thrown under the bus, its what makes this forum so amusing, but you have to laugh, its just parents (mostly dads) jabbing their neighbors, making fun of their competition, its all non-releveant, and sometimes pretty funny. If anyone gets offended here they need to assess their anger problem. Its really just a place to cheer you kids team, and throw the other guy under the bus ; )
Yes 9:17 I agree 100% - Not sure about the non-relevant part - since we obviously have Event Planners and League Admins also reading and posting.
You really think so? I cannot imagine a person charged with planning or organizing an important schedule such as EDP would be on here reading these notes, but I guess its possible. This board is mostly for the Garden state, and its many wonderful, and hilarious detractors, which is always a good read, for me anyway. I like to read what you guys think of our girls, and of course, I hate when they are ridiculed, or not given the proper respect, its just the ultra-competitive nature of us morons, who live through our kids, in the good way. We all cheer the good, point-out the bad, and try to help our children navigate the maze of elite youth soccer, Go Girls, we are with you all the way!
Why did all the ECNL clubs pull out of jags and come into our EDP league? Now we have all the arrogant coaches and parents who didn't want the non ECNL teams in their exclusive jags flight. I say, EDP, split them up through all the flights and not give them their way!
Whatever the final brackets are, EDP 1st Division North, is going to be brutal, and I am thrilled. As a parent with one of these teams, I cannot imagine a better atmosphere for competition, whatever your future league destination may be. Personally, I really like the idea of playing against the ENCL clubs, before they become enamored of themselves, and how they are the ONLY true premier girls league in this country. Guess what, other clubs/teams can compete against you, and can defeat you, and will get as much attention as you, as long as they are committed, confident, and relentless in their belief of themselves, and their coaches.
Okay crush. Just keep talking.
10:51 - I don't think ECNL was built to compete against every club. In my opinion - It was built or created for all the elite level players at their age group to come and train and play together against other girls of like mind.This is no knock on any club or league. It's simple - they wanted to have something put in place to make life easy for the colleges and the girls that play for these clubs in addition to following the same club standards as the Academy System on the Boys side.Of course we have parents that don't buy into this and want to keep their kids with other clubs. To each their own - but don't knock the league and the clubs that play in it - It was created for the right reason and so since not all the elite girls come over - then spots are opened for the next level of kids that try out.They don't care about the clubs not in their league and if they lose to them, why should they? They have the foundation and as they grow and become more popular more and more parents will come to their tryouts. This is not the only game in town and may not be the flavor of the month forever if the USSF makes their own Academy league - but it wasn't created for everyone - it was created for the Elite level players with a price of course - Minutes/games/travel/money - but the rewards can be huge for those that play and are great.Just my take on the ECNL.#2
"...parents who want to keep their kids out of ECNL....."I dont think that is true.If they are accepting more clubs, fineLeaving a perfectly good situation just to get to ECNL is where the problem lies.It's just unnecessary.
Dear #2, did not know you were such a ECNL kiss-ass, dang dude, grow a pair, and stop listening to your wife!
ECNL has a good concept. The unfortunate thing is, most ECNL teams do not have the best players. PERIOD! Looking at the records throughout ECNL, it seems that the league is not that competitive.
4:20 I can't stop she rules my life and I love every second of it. In regards to ECNL it's the Academy thing more than ECNL so I guess that does makes me a kiss ass. Spot on - You know me.#2
5:23 My only question is do the Academies on the boys side have the best players? If the answer is yes. Then will ECNL eventually have the best players if the USSF called it the official Girl's Academy league?I don't know - I'm with you I love the concept and I also agree they don't have all the best players - They don't have my daughter.#2
May not have all the best players but have the best teams. isnt soccer a team sport? NoTEAM in the area will be better than PDA,WC or Match fit at u14. Lets hear all the jealous parents respond.
I swear to God, it seems like you have stock in each of those clubs, do you?????Every time, its the same three, buy a computer, get on the internet, and look at all the other teams in the area, yes, there are other teams, and yes, I know you have a computer, or your daughters iPhone. As far as MF goes, not too long ago, the Match Farce label was used quite frequently on here, what happened to that guy, did his kid join MF?
Just razing you #2, its so much fun!yeah, I can dig where you are coming from, my kids club is not ECNL, so I am tore, have read many good things about it, perhaps they will change some day, who knows what there future holds, certainly not PDA, WC MF, they are just names I have heard, none are a real option for us, but we are happy, because she is happy. She will let me know if its too much for her, and if, or when she does, we will donate her cleats to charity, so that they may inspire another, and continue the dream-chasing we all seemingly do.Bon Voyage!
5:31To answer your question. If USSF gets involved and call the ECNL the official girls Academy League, I would be very surprised. I see the USSF starting their own league with free tuition for every player. Just like the boys side. That is the difference big guy. If that happens. OMFNG! The Academies will get the best players. Lady Red Bulls!
So none of these (so called) great clubs/teams are going to the USFF Northeast Futsal Regional championships this coming weekend, is that right?PDA MFWCCRUSHNJXRAGEWILDCATSFORCE
Sorry, forget aboutGFA
http://www.resultsmanager.com/event/nefutsal2014/?team=12GB4&schedule=1&standings=1Is DNS Knockout PDA is disguise????
Looks like Rage will be there, bravo!
"ECNL has a good concept. The unfortunate thing is, most ECNL teams do not have the best players. PERIOD! Looking at the records throughout ECNL, it seems that the league is not that competitive.Yes, playing the GOT soccer game is the way to go!and even though your coach has absolutely No track record of having a top 10 Non- ECNL team in the country, somehow your team will be the first.ECNL is about showcasing for college and even if this league has the strongest teams in the US from top to bottom, there will still be teams in 1st place and weaker teams in last place.This is true for all sports. Not playing the GOT Soccer game seems to be a great alternative to showcase my daughter for colleges.
Why is there almost no talk of indoor/futsal? Is it because the teams are not true to their regular teams?
552, what does that even mean?There is no talk of futsal because most of the girls lack enough foot-skills, or field vision to compete, case closed.Very few clubs have supplemental futsal training for the winter months, very few, and no, kicking a ball on the basketball court does not count as futsal.
The PDA and MFA teams are the best in the state on average. A few of their teams are probably #1 in the country. Notably last years PDA U17 and this years MFA U17.
Thanks. We'll keep an eye on those teams.
8:34 you said "I see the USSF starting their own league with free tuition for every player. Just like the boys side." First I am sorry but I am not allowed to talk MLS but will anyway - the only Academy teams that are free are MLS Clubs. It took MLS almost 20 years to get to this point - the NWSL doesn't come close to the MLS draw - we will never see a free Academy system for the Girls. Now we can talk about that - but i'm not allowed - i was told this is Youth Soccer and MLS/NWSL & the Pyrmaid has nothing to do with Youth Soccer by one of the greats on this board.PS. Playing the Got Soccer game is the only way to go for some clubs/teams since they will never be accepted into a Club based league - they just don't meet the standards.#2
Yes and the GOT Soccer route is a tiresome game.I have Been through it once with my eldest.
Got soccer points are fun until you grow up and realize they mean nothing.
NWSL clubs are beginning to subsidize top youth clubs. See Boston Breakers affiliation with Scorpions (Breakers)Might begin as not so much $ but donated time, but it's a start
I agree, they are much less valued at the older age groups, but at this age group (which we are all supposedly involved in) it matters, if at the least, it gives parents something to talk about at all the endless practices, all the moments that make this experience unique. Enjoy the moment, and do not get ahead of it, there are never enough great memories, so be healthy and happy girls, we are all proud...1.5
#2. Sometimes you sound like you know everything and sometimes you sound like you are out of the loop. ie....there has been a lot of talk about MLS clubs getting involved with the female side and youth soccer. The MLS has an Executive who is right from our area.
9:52 I am out of the loop. I only know of the below MLS clubs having a women's team. It would be great if MLS got involved somehow. I guess it would be stupid for them not to explore the potential money grab in Girls Youth Soccer for a few roster spots on an Academy team.Seattle Sounders WomenDC United Women Orlando City SC Real Salt Lake WomenVancouver Whitecaps FC womenI just can't image it being a free ride when you have PRO NWSL players getting paid only $6,000.#2
#2, would you say that getting on a girls academy team roster would guarantee a full-scholarship to a D1 college, if so, then I guess its worth it, no?1.5
I would ask for that guarantee in writing before making any plans for college...
1.5 - I think the only thing playing for an Academy team (yes we all know there are no girl academy teams) does when it comes to college is give you a piece of mind as mom/dad to enjoy your kid playing and working hard to keep their roster spot or to move up in the pecking order. They will be seen - what they do is up to them. You don't have to worry about what Showcase tournaments the team is doing and what flight they will be placed in. Just my take on it.On a side note: I give PROPS to the FC Delco Players Cup people. They don't need twitter or to keep their applied list TOP SECRET. It's public for everyone to see if they wish to apply. BRAVO one of the few events in my eyes in addition to the MAPS events that are not about the Money. They don't care how many teams apply they have faith in their Brand. BRAVOI wonder if they all play 11v11 since it's a May tournament and probably the last tournament of the Spring Season for the PA teams?Girls U12Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Blue New York East Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Red New York East Alleycat Premier U12 New York East Arlington SA Samba Red Virginia Continental FC Arsenal '01F Pennsylvania East Crew Juniors Gold West Ohio South Deep Run United Black 01F Pennsylvania East East Meadow HotShotz New York East East Meadow Sky Blue New York East Greater Binghamton FC 01 Select New York West HYS Hooligans Virginia Levittown Soccer Club Supersonics New York East Maryland United FC 01 Red Maryland Maryland United FC North 01 Red Maryland Maryland United FC North 01 White Maryland Match Fit Academy FC Black New Jersey Match Fit Academy FC Blue New Jersey Morris United /STA 01/02 G NPL New Jersey Morris United /STA 01/02G NPL W New Jersey PA Crew Academy Blue Pennsylvania West Pa Crew Soccer Academy U12G White Pennsylvania WestPenn Legacy FC 01 Black Pennsylvania East Perfect Touch Soccer Academy Girls 01-02New York East PHWM SC Pumas Maryland SABA Brooklyn City New York East Smithtown Stars New York East South Shore Select u12 Elite Massachusetts Staten Island United Hot Shots New York East TFA Premier U12 Ohio South Toms River FC COPA '01 New JerseyTri-State FA Elite 01 Ohio South Vienna Youth Soccer Pride '01 Red Virginia White Plains United 02 New York East World Class FC '01 Charlton New York East World Class FC '01Hamm New York East #2
Does FC Delco Cup take place during the Needham Tourney, or before?
Same weekend per GS
Which is the better event, in your opinion?
Both are good events get a large number of teams, just looking at the FC Delco list.You have the top teams according to GS fromNYE #1MD #1OH South #2PA West #2MA #2VA #5and I'm sure PAE top 5 plus MatchFit and World Calss sending 2 teams each.The big question is do the small sided teams stay small sided? PS. it's only Feb with 3 months to go - that's what makes Delco Impressive - a lot more time to add top quality teams
Don't forget MAPS has their EDP Cup also that weekend, so you have 3 strong options. With MAPS you know aht your getting with Delco the small sided game is a question mark and if you like blind draws you have the "top secret" wait for us to twitter the list type events. I'm sorry that really cracks me up.Girls U12Beachside SC of CT U12G International Girls Futbol Academy 01-02Medford Strikers Soccer Club Soul PWSI Courage 01G RedSDFC SambaTSF Academy U12G
"The big question is do the small sided teams stay small sided?"Memorial Day is a weird time of year to play in a tournament as it is so close to when tryouts are concluded. If there are changes to the roster after tryouts, who plays on Memorial Day? The new team or the old team? New players from other clubs may have other plans for Memorial Day weekend. And old players who just got cut may not want to pick at that scab by playing with their old team so soon after getting cut.In PA, roster sizes will increase from about 12 to about 18. If a player is changing clubs, do they play with their old squad or the new one?If a team is in the middle of a state cup run playing 8v8 that doesn't end until mid-May, is iteasier to simply stay with 8v8 and the old roster until Memorial Day?FWIW, my daughter joined a new team last spring, but the team took the old roster (including recently cut girls) to the Delco tournament. They did not do well. I hope we go with the new roster this year and play 11v11.
2:11, with a line-up like that, I think I will forget about Maps EDP Cup, but thanks for asking....
I am getting my daughter fitted for ice skates for the Manhattan Kickoff.. I'm betting the fields are still frozen at the end of this month.
Your daughter will need every advantage she (and her team) can get...
2:18 In my opinion, the tryouts should not be conducted until the end May for all teams. It creates a very awkward situation with end of year tournaments and girls that are no longer going to be on the team.
You think?NJ Brain trust, going for the gusto!
3:17 I disagree.I think the ECNL Clubs should hold tryouts first in April. This way all Kids can tryout for them. Once rosters are set then kids can go to the next level the NPL/Premier clubs followed by rest. #2
So if/when your daughter is cut from her current (ECNL) team, you want to go away to tournament(s) with the team as a lame duck player. The girls know who is proceeding and who will be gone. Not ideal.
Anyone know EDP posts brackets and schedules,
5:07 Ask the guy that posts the links
4:36 It's a tough spot and a hard choice. Do you teach your kid to give up or put them through that at 12 years old?Of course we can all say and think that will never happen to our kid - not sure what I would do? Do I take the choice away from her and I make it for her - do i let her make it? I would like to think i would ask her not to give up - but if she was really hurt do I make her go?I really don't know. I can be a tough guy and tell her to suck it up - but that's my little girl. I really don't know. I hope we never cross that bridge.#2
Hi, this is my first time going through the youth soccer world and I need advice....My daughter will be a U12 next year and she needs to find a new team. A very good town team wants her to join next season. This team goes to Jeff cup, MSC, etc.. and claims that the top d1 coaches would see her in the future if she joins this team. Do D1 coaches go to these tournaments, or is this just a sales pitch? thanks
Why is everyone thinking so far ahead. Enjoy your daughter at age 12. Stop thinking about college.
If you pour over the posts on this board you will notice that everyone has opinion about that subject, but enjoying your kids soccer experience should be at the top of your list, especially at this age group. If I were you, I would take her to some tryouts, including PDA and MF, and if you live north WC. Those are all top clubs, and the training is exceptional, but not the only game in the state.Clubs like Crush offer the same training, and tournament opportunities, and the costs are similar.I am not NJ parent, but my experiences are the same as yours, we all want the best for our child, whatever that might be.Good luck!
P.S. Ask #2, he is smart...and can give you solid and rational advice, unlike some club pundits on this board.PDA, MF, WC woohoo!!!
"Clubs like Crush offer the same training, and tournament opportunities, and the costs are similar."Choose wisely, all training is not the same for every club.I'm not saying good or bad, just not the same.
10:29, great non-answer, can you help the guy???He wants advice, and all you have is that?
I think 10:13 is right on - Do your homework. The training will be good at most places. Is the team solid? Do they play fast? Can you afford the club? Can you make all the training sessions? Can you travel to all the tournaments? All things being equal is the talent level of the team in line with your daughter or better. Not speaking results on the scoreboard. Honestly besides us on this board who cares about wins and rankings at u12. That kind of stuff is just fun to chat about.Enjoy your kid what ever level it may be, just like all the posters say.PS. 10:16 thanks, just trying to look at it from all sides of the fence.#2
Yes coaches go to Jeff, MSC, etc. I would focus on developing your kid to play soccer at this age. You want to make sure she is good enough to be seen later on. If you pick a club that does not go to places like Jeff, then you can always guest play with a team so your kid can be seen.
Which MF trainer is working with NJX? When are the best NJX players going to MF and connecting with their best players? These girls are months away from going to U13. If the academy and MF are "it", then the time has come. Best players should play with best players. No need to respond defensively. NJX is now an average club and MF is their elite arm. When do the better players from NJX go to MF?
How can NJX be average? They are still one of the top teams in NJ and they are very dangerous.
EDP Brackets, and tentative schedules:http://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=37317
NJX far from average for spring 2014This is the current focus of most people here.Should be a nice competitive season.Seems EDP starts March 8. Cool.
Can you post brackets? Tried web site dosn't come up.
1st DIV NorthAlbertsonConnecticut FCEast MeadowMatch FitSDFCNJ CrushNew York SCWorld Class1st Div CentralNJXPDA StormNJ WildcatsNJ ForceIGFAPDA AjaxRage FCTSF1st DIV SouthCalvert CrewFC MilanFC VirginiaFuture MonarchsMaryland RushPipeline Black
Any educated predictions for EDP divisions?My professional opinion is:NYSCPDA STORMFC VIRGINIA
Interesting discussion about NJX. The supporters will say "NJX will be very dangerous in the spring and is still on of the best teams in NJ". The non-supporters will say "As one of the top teams in NJ, you are no longer rated on how you beat other and most often lesser teams in NJ. You are rated on your performance against the top team in NJ (PDA) and against out of state top teams and in that arena, NJX is average at best."NJX was the best team in NJ at U10 and U11. PDA is now the best team in NJ. NJX was strong outside the state at U10 and U11. NJX is now average to below average out of state.
EDP Prediction:MF Black or EM HotshotzNJX or PDA StormCalvert Crew
i would replace NYSC with WorldClass.There is nothing that leads me to believe that NYSC has the strength to beat this team.WorldClassPDA StormFC Virginia
State cup Finalist and lost in 0-0 draw in PK's. Get back on the short bus...... you people are too funny. They only get better with MF training.See you this Spring. Focus on how your teams training can improve to be able to jump a team like NJX. We are all set......
Why Matchfit Black or East Meadow in North division.They have not beaten WorldClass?Are you saying they are now better?alsoDon't see NJX in centralPDA seems to have gotten stronger for Spring Calvert certainly a possibility.
If NJX is average at best to teams in NJ and out of NJ, please tell me who is above average in NJ.Answer: NobodyReason: Because no team in NJ has done better than NJX out of State or in State. PDA has barely won their State Cup games. Right after their State Cup games they have loss to MF & NJX. I just can't see how you can call a team average when they compete with the best everyday.
PDA Storm is not any better then NJX. They are both equal teams that have to prove themselves amongst out of state competition. Each team can defeat the other any given day. Just be happy for what your teams have accomplished and strive for and best of luck in representing NJ this Spring.
EM hotshotz is a strong teamMF black is a strong team and getting better.WC is a strong team as well.PDA storm can not improve tremendously by just 1 addition from CRUSH. Storm has more to work on.
Without causing a firestorm can the NYSC dad give me some info on the team? Where do they play? Who do they play? How have they done? I don't recall seeing them at the tournaments where my daughter's team has played - Delco or Spirit (could have been there just don't recall).
What tournaments are these teams doing in the spring?PDA StormMF BlackNJXRageCRUSH
NJX has a hard time with this team in past.I don't think it will be any easier in Spring with new additions.I believe all these ECNL teams will now start to pull away from the bunch come u13 as Matchfit will get NJX's best and World will get stronger. And PDA will do what they always do.The only question will be , who has the stronger player base in NJ, Matchfit or PDA to reign supreme in the garden State.Does anyone think that any team will have a chance against these two teams in the coming years.
PDA just added two players who are at the top of this age group. They will without a doubt be tough to beat. Yes teams will measure themselves on how they do against PDA, that's because they usually get every youth soccer clubs best product. They just got 2 great players mid season to help a average team. Average team who can't beat any of the top teams on the field. PKs are great for penalties. Not so great for deciding games. Be happy with your 2 Cups that you won in PKS!
PDA storm can not improve tremendously by just 1 addition from CRUSH. Storm has more to work on."PDA has made multiple additions.
Storm not scoring on NJX over 80 minutes was telling at the time but YES - the additions from Crush put them way ahead of where they were at offensivelyLets not forget Storm loses the U11 girl on many datesGood division. Don't sleep on RAGE, unscored on in last tournament
I am not a NYSC dad, but I wish my daughter was on that team. IMO, they train like professionals, and compete like champions, what more do you want???I brought my daughter to a practice last month, and after 30 minutes, I realized these girls can play. They are fast, sharp, and tough, and my kid was overwhelmed, and afterwards was very quiet, but it was a good experience overall, gives us an objective to work toward, and we will be back for U13 try-outs, at least now we know what to expect.Not sure about the other teams you mention, have not seen them play, but we have watched NYSC play, and they look pretty good to me.
PDA has had a hard time in the past with NJX! It may continue to be hard. It amazes me when I hear PDA had to bring up a player from their u11 team to play midf in the State Cup. That's called average. We should have brought up girls from our u11 State Cup team. Back to the hard stuff: Last time PDA beat NJX was the first time NJX and their new additions played 11 aside. Game was 1-0 at half. Very close game and then some bad breaks crushed NJX. that was the last time PDA scored on NJX. Almost 2 years. Look forward to the next match. I like to believe it will be a dog fight again for both teams.
I'd like to see how well all these teams could do without the politics being involved!
Is storm parents saying with their 2 new additions you can now beat a team you lost to(MF black)?
Top ten at U13, region.....in no orderCalvertFC VirginiaWest ChesterNJ CrushMatch FitSouth ShoreNEFCOakwoodPDA StormEast Meadow
9:51, thanks, I am glad we have you here...
Is storm parents saying with their 2 new additions you can now beat a team you lost to(MF black)?"It look like a 1-0 game. Did Matchfit dominate the whole game ? Was it one of those games that Matchfit dominated possession and had many chances at scoring but just couldn't score.If not , what the hell are you talking about?
I think any of the North teams can win that division, they are all great programs, and the NY teams will be beating each other up a bit, in NY Cup play, so I would say that SDFC will be champs!
9:51where is Worldclass in the mix
Hahaha, left your kids team off the list, hahahaha...Chris will not be happy.
Re: the request for NYSC infothis is what got soccer is best used for - tracking a team's historygotsoccer.comclick girlsclick u12click region 1click nyeclick state rankingclick NYSCclick team history
EDP is the place to be this spring. Teams will be playing to avoid relegation to the 2nd Division for U13 Fall. Should be interesting. 1st Division Central is the Bracket of Death.
Storm will be stronger, but can they play as a team with these new 2? Many Storm parents unhappy with new additions as don't fit their style of play (or because of their daughters losing playing time). Writing on wall for any talented Dragons players - get out now, you have zero chance of progressing to A team
Are you one of the unhappy Storm parents, if so, go take a prozac, and try to enjoy the moment, you might live longer...
I wish they had an EDP playoff, top 2 from each bracket, that would be fantastic for the program, and great for the players, now that would be a real EDP Cup, is it feasible?
Feasible for end of June - sureTeams would have to be willing to add the weekend to their sched. I'd go 8 teams deep. 3 each from N and Central.
It's funny hearing abut the "many Storm parents unhappy with 2 additions"Generally this is not the case. Parents usually HAPPY when top players come aboard and strengthen a team.If the coach is worth a damn he will keep everyone involved. A player or 2 in the end may lose out, leave in the fall. That doesnt mean they are not better for their spring experience.
Make is so, number 1.Picard out.
I have to say that today’s posts have been really entertaining, and some are pretty funny. On a serious note though, none of you (or me) know anything more than the other, as far as predictions go, we are all guessing, some creatively, others expectedly, its what we ALL do here, just guess, and throw our opponents under the bus, keep it up!
#2, I want your EDP bracket predictions, now!
"Are you one of the unhappy Storm parents,"more like unhappy outsiders
Yeah...unless the post starts with, "I am a Storm parent and dont like what is going on..."just disregard it as made up crap meant to disturb the PDA club.
9:51 left out Breakers. I am sure just an oversight. Tough to drop one of the ten from his list....
To our PA brothers/sisters you might want to inquire with PAGS to have their flights included in GS.I was looking up the number 1 team in MD to see if they belonged on this top 10 list and came across the below.WAGS Fall 2013 / Girls U12 8v8 Division D 8/1/2013 - 11/15/2013Event Informationwww.wagsl.comStatisticsGame Records 57Boys Flights 0Girls Flights 23Total Teams 197In State Teams 132 (67%)In Region Teams 197 (100%)Foreign Teams None Show All GroupsGirls U12 8v8 Division DFlight Ranking Value: 2078Isn't PAGS the equivalent to WAGS - wait shouldn't JAGS also do this.Just for the record if GS starts adding League play to their rankings - game over, they will be the number 1 rankings software in town#2
No EDP predictions until the flights are final.#2
Manhattan schedule is up!All the platinum games are at Randall’s Island, damn that’s going to be cold for the girls...https://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=33873
Just using GS to determine the success rate of the Teams in GS tournaments if the flights are as posted.NORTH1. EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ avg = 3,569 points 2. NEW YORK SC G01 avg = 2,628 points3. NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI avg = 2,448 points4. MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK avg = 1,309 points5. WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON avg = 156 pointsCENTRAL1. PDA STORM avg = 2,6662. HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC avg = 2,035 points3. RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM avg = 2,007 points4. IGFA 01-02 avg = 1,720 points5. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH avg = 1,583 points6. TSF ACADEMY 01/02 avg = 873 points7. PDA AJAX avg = 745 pointsSOUTHFC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 avg = 3,305 pointsCES CALVERT CREW WHITE avg = 1,035 pointsNo Opinion - just using GS.#2
doesn't NJX take a step back? I thought i read they lost one of there top players this winter.
Those are dumb numbers, 2.As the tournamnts entered and flights played are of differing levels.....
Of Course 4:13 that's the point. But they are just that numbers - we'll see if the mean anything in a few months.#2
Yes, we lost our best player according to certain individuals.
"success rate of teams in gotsoccer tournaments"such ibberish. We can all see the gotsoccer numbersYour junk needs further explanation, certainly.....minimally......
#2, you gonna take that from the 4:25 dope?
Perhaps you should issue an APB, calling all cars, looking for our best NJX player, why did she leave?
"Yes, we lost our best player according to certain individuals."Jealous much
She's a wa wa wildcat.
If NJX lost their best player, where did she go?NJX is going to be fine in the spring. Fall but be a different story, but what has impacted this team now to say they are going to be average? They have not been average since U9
Where did they go?
What is NJX's (GA) average? That is the only average thing I know about them.
There is clearly a best player from NJX - and I dont believe that is who left.Often losing one player doesnt have the effect many believe
"EDP is the place to be this spring. Teams will be playing to avoid relegation to the 2nd Division for U13 Fall. Should be interesting. 1st Division Central is the Bracket of Death."only if you team is in this division. from an outsider, there is no comparison. North Division is the to be in personally
is JAGS even playing this spring? Who is left there?
Best player???? Smoking something my friend. We will all see how all these teams shake out with off season training......
4:28 he's right.#2
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