Board once again getting hard to follow. I votefor Topic of the Day!
Three references on the girl/boy difference issue:“Practice Like a Girl, Compete Like a Boy”http://files.leagueathletics.com/Text/Documents/6432/41692.pdf“Coaching boys or girls: Is there a difference?”http://sirc.ca/blog/coaching-boys-or-girls-there-difference“Coaching Girls vs Boys – Is it Really That Different?”http://fit2finish.com/coaching-girls-vs-boys-is-it-really-that-different-by-mike-mancini/Of course, this issue is about generalizations, and the differences may not always apply on the individual level. Also, I would proffer that there is also a difference between field players and goalkeepers, particularly higher level female goalkeepers, who may not think like the rest of the girls.
Can we step away from the elitism of this Board for a minute and focus on results of past couple days? Comments on State Cup results? Wildcats and STA were clear favorites and both out? Reflection on them or the teams that beat them?
In a country so big -I don't buy the best athlete excuse for the boys. Finding 30 world class players shouldn't be that hard. We actually have them. I think are issue is not having enough quality foreign coaches and to a certain degree culture. In the top soccer nations you have other team sports like Basketball, Volley Ball, Team Handball and Water Polo and in some countries Hockey that are popular but none are close to Soccer. Here in the states we have Football, Baseball, Basketball & Hockey before we even mention Soccer. Although I think Soccer may be ready to jump a few sports.On the girls side, it is recent that the major soccer nations have started investing in the womens game. Yes our NT can beat every other NT. My question is can Kansas City (NWSL) beat down Olympique Lyonnais &VfL Wolfsburg? I think the French and German teams win more times than not.The German NT is a lot younger than ours and a few others can give us a run. We lucked out with our draw and played teams we could afford to play bad against and still win. Having said that I like the birth year change it makes life easy for everyone and it really has no affect on our age group and I think switching to a DA type system can only be a good thing. Of course the $$$$ needs to be worked out - but I'm not holding my breath on that one. my nickleGS 4 Life
Wildcats Galaxy is the old NJCSA Galaxy team, former NJ Force core group. I would say Wildcats now have Two "A" teams. Review game history and you would have to agree.
First round of EPYSA ODP results released. PL showing very well.
Thanks GS 4 Life. I agree about coaching being a main issue for the U.S.Also, I've heard arguments that in other poorer countries soccer is the only real ticket out of poverty for most of their players. That is a real incentive to practice! In America, with all of our pay-to-play, we don't have as many of the lower income kids participating or they are just not noticed in our current identification system. Other arguments that seem reasonable are that with our competitiveness, we naturally focus on winning. At the younger ages in soccer, we are criticized by "experts" for our players relying too much on their athletic and physical attributes and not enough on the skills. Aggressive players are able to win more games, just simply by being aggressive. We (parents and coaches) allow these players to become lazy with their skills, because they have already scored 3-goals and won the U9,U10,and U11 games. I'm guessing that in other countries, the coaches have the pedigree for the parents to listen to when they make the players practice their skills?
Funny 212, no club which has 2 teams in the same age bracket considers both to be 'A' teams. One is the top team & the other is the feeder or 'B' team. Galaxy has to be considered the 'A' team now. Accept it & move on.
Will the Wildcats do a promotional video for the Galaxy team & post it here for all to see if they win it all?
1:43Teams that beat themBravo to the secondary NJ girls soccer landscape as some parity develops. These teams work very hard at their craft.Pulling for a Thistle v Haddonfield final.
Galaxy came over to Wildcats en masse, correct?Still a "secondary" team, though likely treated similarly by the club.
ODP is a waste of money. Enjoy watching your money go down the toilet.
I am not worried about the age of our WNT. I could have put together a team of under 25s that would crush the team we put on the field in Canada. We have the good old girls quashing the US women's development.
3:05 What a DIC
1:43 I too like to see the scores posted and tournament smack exchanged. But go back and look at GS 4 Life's last post and tell me that is not worth reading. I am still waiting for the "Nut" to respond to earlier post and enjoy reading his overview of our daughters soccer landscape. I have found out that I know a lot less than I thought I did.PL Parent
Did Wildcats Averbach lose to the #13 team in NJ State Cup? I know what I'm reading but I can't believe what my eyes are seeing. This team is in freefall. No roster depth. Newest players are borderline rec players. Core players all wish they were at PDA or elsewhere but either couldn't make it or wore out their welcome.Were there to be a locker room that would be some vibe. I guess there is on the parent sideline.
3:36Sorry your kid didn't make it. Or maybe I should say sorry her daddy is such a tightwad. Personally I have yet to spend $ on something soccer related for my girls and felt it was a waste of money.
That's good to hear 5:03. As long as a parent thinks its a worthwhile waste of money, its money well spent!
Not 3:36 but I do agree. It isn't worth it. Total money maker. My kid gets great training through her coach/club. That is what I'm paying for after all and if I wasn't she wouldn't be there.
Maybe the two Wildcat teams should merge?
If the two Wildcat teams merged, would they be called KrazyCats?
Wildcats would never merge. They strongly dislike each other. The Galaxy team getting better. Awfulbunch is a toxic environment.
3:25. Thistle and Haddonfield in final? That's a joke right? Don't count out NJ Rush 01 Blue. They took on 6 new players. 3 from the Rage Freedom team.
Wildcats teams won't merge because the company wants to keep the current 32 players carded and their parents cutting the $3000 per year checks. This age group currently brings in $96,000 per year to the firm. One team of 24 or less bring in much less. Simple as that. The only thing simpler than that are the simpleton parents who pay for that product.
Boy how the tune has changed on this blog regarding the wildcats. That coach probably has the record for posts on this blog when his team was competitive. Lately its been crickets out of that camp. The smack talk was over the top and it kind of fell off a cliff somewhere. Last season my kids team played aginst them and the pompous coaching comments that came from that bench were over the top. If I was the opposing coach, well I wasn't so that was a good thing. Funny how quickly some things can come to an end. Hopefully at least the players will end up somewhere competitive.
Wildcats getting blasted tonight. When are the parents going to come to the rescue and save their good name?
PL Parent"even game changing players can be nullified by a smart tactical coach, and at this age group can often cause a team to become too one dimensional as a team becomes to reliant on this girls success. I have seen this first hand with my daughters former team when she would receive the ball and other players just stopped and watched. This might be one of the worst forms of coaching at a youth level"Most people look at game changers as scorers and therefore players that play in a more advanced position. Game changers at the higher levels of play are players that control the flow of the game. It is a lot easier for an opposing coach to man mark a striker or Center forward or Attacking mid but not so easy to mark an outside back whose runs put tremendous pressure on the other teams defense.or a holding mid that is very calm and controls their space like a quarterback with tremendous defense and well timed diagonal passes over the top. A good coach doesn't cater to their difference maker they just allow them to play their position and space and when it's their tiurn- what they can do at their chosen position starts to dictate the pace of the game. So when you have difference makers at any chosen position( and there are less of these then you might think) and these players go down, the pace and the opportunities of a team will decrease significantly.Difference makers are not necessarily players that score lots of goals although of course they could be , They are players whose tangibles and intangibles make other players around them better. And because of this the team operates as a whole on a higher level of play. The next time your striker scores , look at the two or three plays before the score and ask who started the sequence, what play was really the genesis of that score, If you find that it is consistently one player or another, well chances are these are your difference makers and will not be easily replacedSoccer Nut
How is it not a violation that a kid is rostered to both Matchfit and PDA rosters? The ECNL is pretty formal. Or is PDA above the rules? Seems to me that PDA should forfeit all of its games in which she appeared. Did they win any of them when she played? The ECNL registrar puts forth those rosters, there is something not right here...
You have seen the official rosters? You must have inside information.
Rosters are freely available on the ECNL site. No one from MF has taken the time to remove the player from their ECNL roster. Np.
It appears the picture of the players is wrong as well. They should forfeit the entire season!
The larger Wildcat matter is that the cracks in their model are now fissure like. They are not great player or team developers. They hustle parents for extra footskill training fees and produce a few of the many who pay that fee to be able to do camp moves that rarely show in the game. But most of these upcharges are wasted on players who never show technical speed or precision.They bully their way to wins at early ages and before many teams players can handle the physical rigor. Once they do mature, these teams laugh at the Wildcats bully ball. And now they have 2 average teams. If they try and merge, who becomes the coach. The ego boob from Averbach? His star has faded with too much yelling and not enough real development. Look for him to fade out.The Galaxy coach might be the answer but as another poster stated, Wildcats don't want to lose 32 checks for 18 checks. And you also have the Averbach players who albeit are average and not winning are very happy knowing that they only have 2 subs at every game so lots of playing time. If the top 5-6 Galaxy kids come, then some Averbach kids now will play very little if at all and then kablooey. Parents look elsewhere.Net net is that Wildcats will now go out and hustle another parent coach somewhere to bring his/her team in and trust me....they will find that dope somewhere. They will then have 2-3 teams each of 18-24 bringing the house rake up to 60 checks or $180,000 in gross receipts. And they will convince you all that you will be showcased and college scholarship material because of course colleges are scouting 13 year olds in Long Branch.Cha-ching all you simpletons. Cha-ching!Better sign up for the upcoming winter footskills program fast. Spots are running out;)
Good luck this weekend girls, play with pride, play with honor, and never surrender...
Nothing wrong with the Wildcat training. They get the most out of the talent they have. The reason they are starting to fade is that you need to grow to advance. New quality players need to replace marginal players. The teams that are getting better or even maintaining the success they had at earlier ages are the teams that keep evolving. Clubs like PDA, MF, etc. Look at their teams 2 years ago and look at them now. Much turnover and many new players. A star player at 10-12 yo doesn't mean they will be a star player at 14-18. If you don't evolve you will be left behind.
You will find that that is the formula for most clubs. It is certainly not exclusive to the wildcats.
Thank you Charles Darwin, now how old is the earth?
You are a pacifist, an excuse maker and a non-contributor to any informed dialogue on this matter.Stating that all clubs act this way to somehow provide justification is both incorrect and brands you as a pacifist. Wildcats charges over $3000 plus additional training fees that they insist you take. Most clubs do not charge that amount.Comparing Wildcats with PDA or MF is a joke. Wildcats is only an academy because they say they are. There is nothing academy-esque about them other then the fact that they bilk parents out of big dollars.The other poster who says that teams get better when they turn the roster over to better athletes is correct and de facto he/she is saying it it about recruitment and not development. Nice to see someone calling it as it is.And for you Wildcats there now. Prepare to be recruited over because losing as often as you do to not so great teams and having no bench and suspect skills against better teams is not doing anything for the brand. And that is what matters most. Their brand. Not your child.
I didn't mean to say it's recruitment over development. It is both. If you aren't good at development and coaching as a club you won't do well at recruitment.
Completely incorrect!Wildcats is the living embodiment of great recruiters and lousy coaching and training. Just look at Averbeck. Just look at the number of ex-Averbeck. And look at their playing style. "Boot it and kill" is their tactical mantra. Whining, belittling and berating is their coach's MO. And yes, they are great recruiters playing off of 2 tragic matters:1. They tell parents to leave their town club team to get away from the parent coach.2. Come to Wildcats for showcasing and exposure.They do have a point about the perils of parent coaching but they are not a great place for developing college players. They just happen to sift through so many rocks and pebbles that occasionally a gem emerges. Were a town club to go through over 100 players in an age group from 8-18, they'd have just as many gems.Mister, you getting this?
Soccer Nut. I always consider the loss of a high level center mid one of the greatest losses to a team. My belief is that the team that controls the center controls the game, and I tend to see this is true in almost any sport (even chess). I also feel that often when a team man marks a player or dedicates its game play to stopping one player, they often times hurt themselves since their not sure how to play off of it. Thanks for the good response and good luck everyone heading to Wags today.PL Parent
To you as well PL parentGS 4 Life
a few things 11:19 you are incorrect - NJ Wildcats are the only true Academy when talking about them MF and PDA. They are the club that have a W-league team - that's D2 right below NWSL on the soccer pyramid. A "true" academy is the youth system of a "pro/semipro" club.Oh boy I find my self defending Wildcats again - 12:34 and what if this is a fit for some of the players (location/level of play) not everyone has the same ECNL dream and not everyone can play the way your kid does and that's okay. They are still in play for NPL Finals so very much still an option unless of course you are saying NPL isn't?So yes, if they can take a town team further than it can go by itself and the town team wants it what's the problem? Them getting 3k for it? You are not the one paying, so that shouldn't bother you.9:15 the violation should be for clubs to keep their info up to date and this goes for leagues as well - hit them with a fee since $$$ hurts everyone.8:34 mr Nut -I agree 100%GS 4 Life
I am not gonna defend the Wiildcats either but list the clubs you would want your daughter to play for if she wasn't at the club she is currently at. Not easy to do.
3:08 which state?
There really isn't any need for me or anyone else to list the club that we'd prefer our daughter's to play on my delusional friend as you already know the following:There are only 13 families who have currently chosen to be there and half are scratching their heads wondering if it makes sense.Yet another group of ex Averboinks who came, saw, vomited and left.And more so, another some 400 families within an hour of Averboink-ville who've in fact decided to play elsewhere and do so on over 100 other teams. They have in fact considered Averboink or at least a large portion of them and they voted "no". Now if your comeback is that they wouldn't make the team keep dreaming. That guys is taking anyone with a check and the obedience of Lassie.Thems the facts Jack.
3:21, New York State, not Long Island, or Rockland County, go!
Lets look at U-14 soccer right now. Some teams have a mix of 8th and 9th grade kids on them. Now both groups are playing school soccer, however the 9th grade kids are playing on some Saturdays. This creates a problem with ECNL, EDP or state cup games that occur on Saturday. Many of these teams are missing key players and will be getting their butts handed to them at times. So while missing these 9th graders teams are filling or bringing in extra kids that need development or they are playing short. Now I as well am NOT defending the Wildcats Averback(spelled that wrong on purpose) but maybe some of their girls are doing primary high school ball and coming when they can. Look at Boca and Copa, they are getting beaten up hard in flight 1 EDP, but at least they aren't hiding like say the Dragons. When ALL of N.J. soccer goes birth year like ODP already does, these U-15 teams will have different kids and a different make up. So chill out about all of the U-14 teams, the results, the tournaments etc. because it will all change next fall when we switch to birth year soccer. Just train, train, train and enjoy it have fun and keep the kids safe.
If BW Gottschee Soccer or Met Oval had a girls program.and just for the record Brooklyn/Queens is not part of Long island even if it's on Long Island.
Wow 4:30 I like the Dragon Dig?
No different than PDA & MF. The bottom line Wildcats Galaxy got the numbers & now they got the results. They have all the leverage & the DOC there will soon realize if he hasn't already. Taking handful of the top players from Averbuch & putting with the Galaxy team makes total sense from every angle.
4:30 you made me look. Dragons have played 7 games so farbetween FC Stars Cup 2015 & their NPL ScheduleThis seems to be the norm when I looked at other teams using GS.STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 played 11NJ WILDCATS GALAXY played 8NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL played 7NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL played 7 gamesREAL NJSC SOUNDERS played 7 gamesMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL played 7 gamesSo what's STA's beef with the Dragons?GS 4 Life (yes i was also 4:51 and 4:55)
Never mind the countless scrimmages they play against other teams in their club.
5:48 are you saying they scrimmage their Pre-ECNL and ECNL teams?How come this is the first we read of this?
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BOCA does not hide from the best, ever. We play the best always recently, this weekend again is another example. Thanks previous poster, yes we lose, but we are learning, and we love it and one another.
4:30 If I understand correctly, my U14 daughter born 2002, will have choice to play again U14 or U15 fall 2016?
4:30 My daughter plays for an ECNL club and there are plenty of games where impact players are missing because of high school games. That is never an excuse. The club has put this team in a position win with a large roster. The talent is endless from top to bottom. Some girls sit home on weekendsbut when they get rostered they bring it. The parents change slightly from weekend to weekend but they love the winning product. And more importantly the girls do..
Can someone help me understand some stuff about club vs HS. I'm going to list some stuff please tell me if i'm wrong.1. Club soccer is for development2. Club soccer gets you to college3. Club soccer is expensive4. club soccer teaches a player to compete, juggle life to manage time and make difficult decisions5. HS soccer is for funWhy do I read post about kids missing club games to play "rec" HS soccer?I can tell you I pay over 2k in tuition and i would be really pissed off and not return to a club that allows their players to pick HS over club in season. If my kid is a role player then she needs the impact player and if the impact player wants to play with friends, well then that tells me everything I need to know.Sorry to be such a tool.and since I'm in a mood to be a tool - 11:56 great your team is learning and you guys love each other that's really great - so what do the teams that are winning 6-0 learn? How about them? they don't get to play an equal game or a hard game to learn? Sorry for being a tool
Depends on the age of your kid and the school. If your kid is a freshman or soph on a top 20 type HS team, the comp there is better than even the ECNL team they are on. Plus you forgot one huge thing. Soccer is still about fun, and many girls grow up dreaming about playing for their varsity. For many it is also a break from the Club which I think is good.
Yes, U14 2002s have the option of playing U14 or playing up.
The option of playing up will always come from the coach/club. They never want to make it easy. I heard on here only one play up at PDA, but not sure it's true. If you look at storm roster, they have 9 girls or a third of the roster 02, very normal percentage for elite team. Those girls will be u14 next year along with girls from dragons who are O2 and I'm sure the majority of the current 02 ecnl team.
FCV 3Oakwood 1Penn Legacy 0BRYC 2Crew 0Calvert 0
FC Frederick 0TFA 1Casl 2Florida Elite 0
7:07 I agree if you want to play HS play HS and come back to the club in the Spring I have no problems with that - when kids play HS ball they don't play both why should the '01s be any different. Your choice you want to hang with friends and play on a good HS go for it - but stay away from the kids that practice together every day because they want to stay together that's why they accepted their offers. I'm not saying don't play HS.
Yes I heard as well the old Pre ECNL team from MF are all 02s and all are up North. should be a very good team which includes National player
SJEB 1 NYSC 0BOCA 3 TSF 2
It appears NYSC has a scoring problem.
Not much surprise yet at Wags except I would've thought PL could've handled BRYC.
Looks like the teams who were on top last year no longer on top. A changing of the guard b
No problem with NYSC, SJEB been doing well
FCV and CASL final?
BOCA wins both matches, faces nysc tomorrow. I have to tell you, parents were very nice today on SJEB side and NYSC. Matches were good, teams were good, will be nice final on Monday, possibly BOCA representing NJ.
Blog is almost as boring as WAGS this year.
World Class 1-0-1 at CFCTied South Central Premier SpiritCrush 1-1, losing 2-0 to South ShoreWC win or tie puts them in final
So FCV is through. CASL has the advantage in flight C, but if things fall right, both Classics and Florida have a chance to go through, however unlikely ithat is. BRYC and TFA are through with wins, with BRYC having the advantage playing the weaker team and a goal ahead on differential; but both are in the lead for the wildcard. Tournament hasn't been boring, unless your team is losing. Prediction for tomorrow: FCV over Crew Juniors; CASL over Classics; BRYC over Frederick; TFA tie against PL.CASL over BRYC in overtime; FCV over TFA.
My bad. World Class may need a win just to get to tiebreak stage.
TFA over PLFCV over CrewOakwood over CalvertCASL over ClassicsBRYC over FrederickFlorida over PWSIFCV over FloridaCASL over TFAFCV over CASL (OT)
Check the standings, if Florida and BRYC win, BRYC goes through with 7 points to Florida's 6.
BRYC ties Frederick
Crew, Calvert, PL, and Frederick all heading home early this morning.FCV 3Crew 0Oakwood 2Calvert 0TFA 1PL 1
Several teams that just aren't F1 teams. PWSI being just one.
Frederick 0BRYC 0FL 4PWSI 0PAC 0CASL 3
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What about CFC ? Isnt that the big event..
Wildcats sends 2 teams to WAGS. Neither in the Cup flight but instead the B flight. The NJ #1 does not rate Cup Flight of JAGS??? Or Averbock begged out of top flight? Averbock scores 3 goals in 3 games and finishes in second place in the bracket. Galaxy comes in second in their bracket and earns the wildcard spot along with the other 3 bracket winners sending Averbock home for the long ride home with nothing to show.From an Averbock perspective:Positive Spin: Not sure there is much. Can't score. Can't win at any level outside of NJ and now that NJ is watered down with much of the talent on any one of 9 PDA/MatchFit/NJSA teams, then effectively any win they do have is against also rans about the state. They did have nice weather and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express;)Negative Spin: Galaxy advances ahead of Averbock and gains points and some cred for getting to the semis. There most certainly will be those who believe that Galaxy is eclipsing Averbock with results, style of play, team harmony and the team's ability to attract players.Good bet this will be the last time both teams are ever entered into the same event.As Ricky Ricardo once said and as applies to the Averbock genius coach: "Lucy, you have a lot of splaining to do."If Galaxy gets lit up by Century who have yet to yield a goal, then it will reinforce the notion that Wildcats as a brand are nothing more than tier 2 average in NJ and dogs outside the state.
What about CFC?U14 Girls Elite9 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA) 4 CFC NORTH WOLVES U14G (CT)3 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)1 SOUTHEAST 01/02 (CT) 7 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)6 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (MA) 4 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)0 CSU U14G NEP ELITE (MA) As expected SSS vs WC.
EDP 1 flight is done6 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN (NJ)5 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)4 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)1 GPS NJ FLASH U14 ELITE (NJ) who plays NJCSA?? Probably the winner of NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)Going into today6 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)3 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)3 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
BRYC 1CASL 0
DiscoveryPenn United 11776 0
Same old Wildcat Awfulbunch. Driving home from a tournament without making it out of their bracket. Relegated to second flight excited to tie. Have not played a semifinal game in over 2 years. Coach is cashed up and parents are left shaking their head. But hey, look at the exposure your getting.
1776 shouldn't be losing to Penn United. Not sure what's up with them. Major disappointment.
I believe I predicted that Penn United would win that. Especially after the confidence building win over PA Classics. Nothing wrong with 1776, this is who they are. A defensive team that has yet to win when they should, evident in they're 4-0 loss to Classics in Pags semi final last year.
Wildcats Galaxy lit up Century 3-0 out playing them throughout the game
Come on 4:05...You're being very harsh. Don't you know that he calls "Next Level"?As in the next level of finds in his bank account.But hey, the parents keep on coming and forking over the dough for their little darlings to get screamed at so just maybe he's the smartest guy in the room.
A weekend at Wags Dejection-Losing to BRYC 2-0 on Saturday morningApathy -A 1-0 win over Fredrick with thoughts of nothing gained by this winHope -Leading 1-0 over TFA with five minutes left and knowing a win most likely will get the team in the semi'sAnger -a PK given to TFA in the last minutes that allowed the game to be tiedcheerful -Being sure to let the girls know you appreciated how hard they played as they come off the fieldAcceptance-Knowing your daughters team was 5 minutes from winning the bracket, yet your enjoying the moments while order food together at Sheetz on the way home.Hope your weekend was as rewardingPL Parent
PL Parent we all enjoy the win and we know when you play F1 it's never going to be a walk in the park. Just be safe going to and from all your events.A great weekend of soccer for the kids with great weather.GS 4 life.
PL parent, what happened with BRYC game if you don't mind me asking. I was surprised by this outcome. Seeing them in finals now has me wondering.
Recap:Discovery Cup 20151 PENN UNITED FORCE0 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEEDP Cup 2015 (TBD)NJCSA ELITE MANALAPANNEW YORK SC G01CFC Columbus Day Classic 20152 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE0 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNLWAGS (Finals TBD)FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE NJ WILDCATS GALAXYLEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 01 BLUEHULMEVILLE SC DYNAMOGS 4 Life
6:08This seemed to be a little faster and much more aggressive BRYC team than we were use to. They have an attacker (scored both goals on breakaways) that is really frigging fast and and finished well. To be honest, they controlled the middle and simply outplayed us. It was a 1-0 game with a couple minutes left, but we never really put together much offense either.If this is their true team and have not used guest players, then they will be a tough team to face going into the spring.Of course my view may be jaded a bit, our girls played hard but did not play well as a team this weekend. We only scored when we went to a two striker formation (Hmmmmm, maybe we should stay with that).PL Parent
NJ Wildcats Galaxy just moved themselves into top 5 teams in NJ.
So right and thanks GS 4 Life. Is that Penn United/1776 the championship game score for the Discovery Cup? If that is, Penn United might be the new number one ranked team in PA.PL Parent
Possibly but only in points. Penn United plays PAGS and average at best tournaments. 1776 probably the best team they've faced this year and it was only a 1-0 win. That's not saying much. Could they hang against any top competition? Highly doubtful.
I wonder that too. But they have a coach who is crazed and screams the whole game (received a red card yesterday), but is a good tactical coach and the parents tell us that the girls love him. Penn United and 1776 are very defensive minded teams, so there must have been a lot of middle play in that game.PL Parent
Galaxy coach is a game time coach, you have trainers who can train, coaches who can coach, this red card coach wins, he is a great sideline coach, he can make adjustments, carry the right players and win. They will continue to do well with this coach, at this point the coaching is king, who you start, where you play players and how you adjust.
boca loses to NYSC then STA in quarter finals, NYSC will play NJCSA for all the points tomorrow. boca continues to show how well they can play the 5 and up teams from the states, when the teams are ranked in the top 1% they have a hard time. In truth their is a massive difference with the top 1% (so teams ranked in nation 1-40) by GS, and the teams outside of that 1% and above that 1% boca seems to handle.
I do think the coach is a good coach and has gotten results, but do not like that he shows no class after a loss. Telling Legacy after a loss that they only won because he didn't have as many athletes. I'm all for intensity and like a coach that has it, but try to acknowledge that the opposing players that might of played they're ass off. Sad to see that in six months, the whole soccer landscape is going to change.PL Parent
Give the Galaxy parents credit, they saw this coming years ago and left the Wildcat "Awfulbunch" (great name) team. Have been with a good trainer/coach who focused on long term development not cash deposits.
A lot depends on the club as far as what happens to teams in 6 months. Some are conveying the idea that 02's will simply play up in order to keep current teams together. Now, if you're kid is the bottom 2-3 that may not apply.
In the span of a few weeks Penn United has beaten PA Classics and 1776. Perhaps they'll get another shot at PL in the spring. And I believe PL and 1776 play in the next week or two.
Penn United will probably run into PL at the Hempfield Fall Classic. GS 4 Life would absolutely hate this tournament since its worth zero GS points. We do too.PL Parent
Where did Penn United come from? A few years ago I'd never even heard of them. Last year they were Pags D2. Did they get PL and PAC players?
No former PL or PAC players. Penn United used to run under the name Lanco.
29th Annual Hempfield Adidas Fall Classic11/22/2014 - 11/23/2014Girls U13 F13 Premier 1Flight Ranking Value: 2982 0 pts PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F13 (champ)1378 pts PENN UNITED FORCE 01 F13 (runner up)GS does the right thing - it manually added the hempfield classic and it manually entered the pda event before they yanked it which caused dragons to drop from that 1% which will probably hurt the flight they get assigned in the next tournament they do like it did at Stars - Storm will always get top billing so they can afford to have 2 GS accounts instead of one merged account - poetic justice.GS 4 Life
GS 4 LifeHow the hell do you figure that crap out? Its crazy that the runner up would get points, but not the winner.
The tournament is not high level. If a tournament has no teams considered a challenge for the winner, based on rankings, no points are awarded. Penn United wasnt ranked as high so those tournament games were "on par" more so for them. My assumption at least.
After playing BRYC this weekend any prediction PL guy on the final tomorrow?
10:31 - 10:51 is right, it looks like the teams that participated did not have good ranks as the flight wasonly valued at 2982. The 20% of the team's total points was more thean the flight value for PL that's why they didn't get any points. Where Penn United looked like they had very few.below is each team's 20% deduction going into today's final.This amount is subtracted from the Flight value to determine the team's max points. The winner gets 100% the runner up 50%. I will use WAGS Cup flight as a sample.Flight value = 10,0005,109 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)2,549 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)So if FCV wins they will earn 4,891 andif they lose they get 50% of this number. However, if BRYC wins they would earn 7,451 or 50% of this number.The other 20% numbers todeduct fromflight values are: 2,804 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ) 1,153 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE) 2,094 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 2,322 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO 1,749 NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN 3,223 NEW YORK SC G01 The Discovery Cup 2015 has awarded it'spoints already.3,870 = PENN UNITED FORCE '01 782 = 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEGS 4 Life
As well as BRYC played against us, I would still be surprised if they defeat FCV. The fact the Fredrick of Maryland tied BRYC on Sunday, leads me to believe how bad we played had something to do with our loss. Have to ask you guys on this blog, when was the last time FCV lost in a Final? FCV - 2BRYC- 1PL Parent
FC Delco to NEFC
FCV lost in WAGS semi finals last year to Top Hat.
To the person who posted last week that Wildcats have two 'A' teams, it's time to take the goggles off & switch from Kool-Aid to something stronger.
So let me ask. If FCV, Boston Breakers, South Shore, NEFC, Top Hat and PDA are playing in the same bracket, what order do they finish? Sorry if I forgot someone here that belong in that group.PL Parent
FCV manages to squeak out another Championship win.FCV 1BRYC 0
Congratulations to those 2 rivals. Job well doneAverbush is still the Wildcats top team (2 ties and a win at WAGS doesnt change anything)But kudos to the surging Galaxy
Wow. Great job by BRYC in this tournament. They have always been in the F1 bracket, but they have really improved their ball movement and defensive play. Its funny that we haven't talked about how well FCV is doing, its just expected that they will win.PL Parent
Yea but at Spirit BRYC didn't do much at all. Makes me wonder if they had a guest player or two for WAGS.
FCV won in shootout, 4-3. 2 nice saves by keeper. No guest players for BRYC. Forward is one of the former PWSI players.
11:06 FYIthere isn't an A and a B at the Wildcats as far as I understand none of the Galaxy players tried out for Averbuch
Just as was the case when they were at NJCSA, Galaxy are an affiliate team at Wildcats Club.They pay a set fee as a team to be part of the host clubs umbrella.They were not the NPL team at NJCSA as that was NJCSA Elite, and at NJ Wildcats they are not the NPL team as that is Averbuch.They play as an EDP league team under the Wildcats umbrella and use their facilities.
Enough with the affiliates and the umbrellas. Who are they, Morgan Stanley? Are they now a DBA?This is pure silliness. And if Galaxy is now "surging" as a result of a nice B flight run, then Averback is plummeting unable to win or score.Bullyball does not work outside of NJ and when you play teams that are not afraid of the bullying and the screaming sideline loudmouth, the end result is always the same. No goals. No wins. Over.
The forward mentioned is a great player. Takes good angles on the ball and a natural finisher (and really frigging fast). They moved her back to outside mid and she showed good skill there too. Just the fact that FCV couldn't score on them showed how much their defense has improved too.PL Parent
"unable to win or score"Stop barfing on the forumThey just won a game.
Who won a game? The comment referred to Averback. Scoring they can't and not at any level to win the big games. They do run it up on the sorry sisters here and there.
yes - they won a game.And Galaxy hasnt beat them in 4 tries.
Are you still on Averback? They won 1 game this weekend against a team that went 0-1-2 and scored themselves only 1 goal. That team is #7 in PAE and in their last 9 games are 0-6-3 with 5 goals for and 16 goals against. I repeat...they beat a team that has not won a game in their last 9 and have scored about 1/2 a goal per game. And the NJ#1 is hoo hooing that?Averback in highly clinical terms stinks. Their record says so. Their parent group knows so and the Galaxy know so. Too much berating and belittling. Not enough tactical understanding. Too much bully ball. And too much focus on additional training convincing parents that they are being taken to the Next Level.Captain Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We should leave this team alone, i think the parents know that perhaps what the coach was originally selling was nothing more than a "bill of goods"let them rest in peace.
Galaxy wins! Clearly the better Wildcat team.
In tournament play, Averbuch still beats teams outside of NJ and are respected for doing so. How many other NJ teams can say that?
News flash! Ties are not wins.
2:50 If team A and team B are in the same flightW-T-L1-1-1 Team A1-0-2 Team BI think in the above scenario a Tie would be a win?, NO?On the flip sideW-T-L1-1-1 Team A2-0-1 Team BA tie would be a loss in this scenario? No?GS 4 Life
They had 1 win and 2 ties, no losses.
2 wins and a loss trump a win and 2 ties - yeah we all know this.Ties can kill a weekend - or a season.Congtats to Galaxy, but my guess is you still lose to Averbush
Congrats to the galaxy team ... Good weekend ... Be humble ... Some parents know that these 2 teams will be combined next year due to the year change that's a fact ... That's why the affiliation between these two clubs ... Wildcats coach is not that stupid lol .
3:38 It doesn't matter if they still lose, they won F2 at a Major which should get them into F1 at their next major. The points they accumulate here should be enough to make them the new NJ#1 GS team will they rise to the challenge or will they get beat down? I'm pulling for them like I did for the Dragons last year. They have shot at a regional event and they are 2 games away from it. first beat the "A" team from the club you just left to play NJ Rush Blue most likely for a spot at the region1 championships with a trip to TX on the line for a national title.Will NJ Rush Blue be the NPL team this year or does that honor go to the Grey team as listed on the EDP site?Did any of the new PA team's club apply for NPL?Sorry I love the NPL format as it reminds of the UEFA Champions league. Win your league and advance to NPL Finals
NoGalaxy wont see Flight 1
@5:27Why not flight 1 for Galaxy explain??they will the be ranked 1 in NJ as of next week have you seen them play latelyask the STA coaches
Isn't STA playing shorthanded?
Galaxy will not play F1 because they need to beat a quality opponent to do so. Name three quality teams that they have beaten? I will compare them to the PA team Penn United. Penn United had to work their way up the ladder just to get into F1 at a very weak Discovery Cup. They played great and won, but in no way does it ensure they will be F1 at the next major cup event. In PA, even PL and PAC are not automatic as F1's. Galaxy needs some signature wins to really get noticed.
Totally agree with 7:37 Galaxy has no quality wins. Their wins have come from lower ranked teams. We will see going forward how they handle teams coming their way.
STA not short handed. They had 16 on the bench at the game against Galaxy.
yeah...... they're shortBut they wont make excuses
My best guess at Bethesda flights: Looks like a solid 4 flightsF1Alberton Fury ECNLBethesda SC Express ECNL Braddock Road EliteMaryland United FC ECNLMatch Fit Academy FC ECNLPA Classics AcademyPenn Fusion ECNLPlayers Development Academy AjaxF21776 United FC XtremeCentury V EliteCleveland Futbol RoyalEUSA Empire United RochesterLehigh Valley UnitedMatch Fit Academy FC NPLNew York SCNJ Wildcats NPLF3Continental FC Delco ECNLFC FrederickHarford FC United ThunderManhattan SC Pride NPLNJ Crush Tsunami NPLReal SoundersUkrainian Nationals Blasters BlastYardley Makefield BansheesF4Council Rock United FC Bucks ECNLGPS-MA NPLLoudoun Soccer RedMassapequa NPL Lil' RowdiesNew Jersey Rush BlueNJCSA EliteRage SC AthleticaVictory Express SC PlatinumGS 4 Life
CASL FlightsF101 CASL ECNLBreakers ENCLCES Calvert Crew WhiteFC United FC United U13G AcademyFC Virginia ECNL 01Florida Elite 01/02 EliteMD United 01 ECNLNEFC EliteF202 Girls National Team NorthFC Stars of MA ECNLJFC Storm 01/02 ECNLNC Fusion 01 ECNLNSA TwistersRichmond United U14 ECNLTFCA Alliance GF301/02 Krush BlackBRYC 01 EliteCASL Ladies Red GFCCA Green GJFC Storm Elite 01/02LFC 02 Girls WhitePWSI Courage 01G RedStorm SA 01 Girls BlackF401 Florida RushBeach 01gCleveland United 01/02 WhiteCR Burgundy Rapids GGalaxy 01-02 BlueGTBFC 01 Elite PascoVirginia Rush Elite 01GWHYFC Hammerheads White G
PAC and PL didn't do terrible but the fact that they didn't even reach the semis at Spirit or WAGS will make it interesting to see where they are come Spring. Still F1 worthy?
'02 Girls National Team North- should be interesting watching them try to gel/compete
The below 4 are the most recent GOOD wins. To me they look like quality wins. Not sure who you want them to play? They were placed in F2 at a Major and WON. Then again will they get respect? The PDA Dragons came out of the blue last season and had a strong season and were shown no respect by Jefferson and Stars of Mass - of course they didn't help their case by not winning a game at Jefferson and only went .500 at Stars. I think this team should be given a shot. Let's see how they do in their next state cup game vs NJCSA who won EDP and should move up to number 5 in the NJ GS world.3-1 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 012-1 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS3-0 CENTURY V 0102 ELITE1-0 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES
STA "missing players" please that excuse is oldHow about this....Galaxy have been missing 3 of their top players for the entire season due to injury and other personal reasonsno complaints from Galaxy this is a team sport and it is all part of the game
Who plays the game always matters but because it can't be verified hard to use it on this blog
10:02Those are nice wins. but LVU and YMS are middle of the pack in a weak PAGS league and high F3, low F2 teams in most tournaments. I mentioned Penn United because they have knocked off F1 teams, PA Classics and 1776. No disrespect meant, but show me a win against a tougher squad or a signature win that makes everyone say "holy shit, look at that".
I think the STA win was still significant. I assume some of STA players are in HS and playing for club sporadically, but still a nice WThe remainder of NJ State Cup may be telling as well for Galaxy. NJCSA Elite and (likely) Real Sounder should be a cakewalk if Galaxy is as good as advertised - leading to a Finals vs Thistle or Copa
7:23 you must be kidding ,Copa? Have you seen their scores lately. They will be beat by SJE in next State Cup game. Real Sounders were beat by NJ Rush Blue 3-0 in league play. Galaxy will play NJ Rush in finals. Any takers for a wager?
Thistle won't make to finals.
7:23It does sound like Galaxy is making a nice run. But your getting way ahead of where they are. A nice win and a signature win are two different things. Good luck the rest of the way.
Just enjoy the ride, 7:37Really? Betting on youth sports?
9:02 It was a joke. I guess I should have put LOL to make it known. Sorry. I was just responding to previous comment about who will be in State Cup finals. Just my opinion that is all.
But you dont really know the teams well, do you?
They know Rush well..it's obviously someone from the club. The last time projections were made about State Cup outcomes and Rush wasn't in the finals, the same person, or someone with a similar passion for gambling, jumped all over the board about them adding players and offering to make a bet.
Please explain why you would think Ajax is or should be in top flight in bethesda? Unlessential they are rosteringredients storm and Dragon players.
It's also pretty sad if there is ecnl teams in the 3rd and 4th flights in bethesda. Considering ecnl is the top of the pyramid, lol. Pyramid scheme that is.
9:38 I am not from Rush. My daughter's team played against them and lost. I don't know how many new players they have, I don't know what you are talking about. I was commenting on what I have seen. Just don't count them out. You need to chill. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. You have yours right?
Who is counting anyone out?Its wide open between the 8 teams
The CASL brackets are severely screwed up and show what happens when a tournament seeds teams based primarily on whether they have the letters "ECNL" in their name. Let's hope they pay attention to the results on the field, especially all the action this weekend, and correct the brackets.
Tournaments do not look at records to determine flights. They look at club name, GS points, and then geography (they try to keep teams from same are playing each other in bracket play). It does happen but every attempt is made to avoid that. Spirit- has a lot of PA teams. Stars of Mass had lots of teams from Massachusetts. PDA will have a lot of nj teams in lower brackets. Good win by Galaxy, Congratulations.
10:39. I think I get your point but... Unlessential? rosteringredients?What???
What team do you represent, 11:44?Seems there are a couple of non ECNLs in top 2 flights. Who do you feel was jobbed?
Same person????Anonymous said...3:14, There is no way SJEB are going to beat NJ Rush. Any bets?September 15, 2015 at 6:28 PM Anonymous said...@6:28, looking at a 7-1 win in the Spring, what makes you so sure I'm wrong?September 15, 2015 at 6:50 PM Anonymous said...6;50 Different team . That was the NPL team they threw together at the time, it was a combo of Rush Highland / Rush Hamilton. There are 3 separate teams. This one playing is NJ Rush Blue 01. I guess you did not do your homework. Still want to bet?September 15, 2015 at 7:17 PM
Please explain why you would think Ajax is or should be in top flight in bethesda? Unless they are rostering storm and Dragon players.Sorry auto correct is all screwed up
There is no sane explanationBut every year a non-1 does slip inIf it is again Ajax..... I've no problem with thatMaybe they do :)
1:03 & 10:39 I didn't see a team that was head and shoulders better than them, so I went with brand. I know but it's better than a coin flip or is it? Now you please explain who should replace them and I will tell you why I went with Ajax over that team. NJ Wildcats NPL was my original choice, but i can't honestly put them in F1 until they win a F2 at a major they got beat up pretty good in F1 a few times and didn't show well in the RCL. Outside of that I thought they were pretty even with a few teams, but it came down to brand for me. Would love to hear your replacement(s)12:49 Why would NJ Rush not put their best teamin NPL? Still scratching my head on this one.10:50 yup ECNL is the top of the pyramid. Not verystrong ECNL teamsfor those clubs at this age, yet.9:02 Come on man or woman like he's really putting cash down, lighten up.8:38 & 10:52 again your assumption is that they have had a chance for a signature win, they need the nice wins first and a WAGS F2 title is really nice and they are one game away from playing for a NJ NCS. Let's see how this thing plays out7:38 That would be crazy if they did - NJ Rush looks like they mix and match - so only time will tell.GS 4 Life
Same on EDP for assigning the most inept referee that I have EVER seen, in my entire life. From the day that I was born, until yesterday, there has never been such a disgraceful and completely officiated game in the history of the Earth. Does that sound too harsh, its not. There is video proof of said game, via ________, and once I view again, will post for the world to see.That being said, cheers to our opponents, they played hard, and we don’t complain : /
Correction 2 games away from NJ NCS.
Bethesda flights are out: http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=47043&Group=Girls_14
Sorry, Shame on EDP, I am so upset, I am not proof-reading correctly.
No worries 1:55 i never do and my grammar stinksGS 4 Life
G,Do me a favor, and please run the GS rankings on Bethesda 2 top flights points wise and state rankings wise. Basically, what teams should shift up or down.Thanks!
1:59 EDP and WAGS haven't awarded points yet and Bethesda hasn't released their flights yet. They are still loading the older ages, to much work for something that will most likely change. You know I'll run the GS projections for top 3 or 4 I always do just waiting for the official release.GS 4 Life
12:49. Wow.You must not have a life. You are posting old comments. Do you read comments everyday? Why are you upset that someone is rooting for a team they like. They do not have to be related to anyone from a certain team to make a prediction and if they did so what? What are you really angry about? It seems silly for you to try and figure out where they are from. You're anonymous too. Why don't you state where you are from inside of hiding.
Because Ajax might be better than your team. It's someone's opinion, stop being bitter. Sorry, autocorrect screwed up.
12:28I like your explanation on tournament bracketing. At one time or another all of us have complained about F1 and F2 selections for different tournaments. But when the games are played, it does seem that the choices they make are mostly correct. How often during these tournaments does the little things end up costing a team a trip to the semi's or finals (notice I didn't say playoffs). Many of the teams mentioned on here probably deserve a chance at an F1 flight, but it takes a tournament official to give them the chance. From there a lucky bounce or a defender slipping on the wet turf can change a teams fortunes. Penn United is a prime example of a team given a chance and running with it.
Exactly it's nice to see different teams as well, as teams get older F1, F2, and even F3 at these major events will bring any team trouble.
GS now lists top 5 teams in PA as follows1. YMS2. 17763. Penn Fusion NPL4. PA Classics5. Ukrainian NationalsYet more proof of what a joke GS is.
At least 1776 and PA Classics is in the top five. Surprised Penn United is not listed yet.PL Parent
3 teams from NJ in top flight of bethesda are a joke. Ajax, wildcats and crush.They can beat each other but can't beat a team from a different state.
I thought you said the flights arent out yetI would not expect Crush in top flight
Those flights will change after a next few days.
MFA NE NPL Team may have a chip on their shoulder if they end up in F4. That looks like one obvious change.
Crush is 4th in state, how can they not be in top flight?It's only 3500 a year and 20 on roster, they need a win bad.
So we have three teams from Lancaster Pa, all with five miles of each other. Penn United, Penn Legacy and PA Classics have really improved over the last two years and my question is how? Is it coaching? Or did this age group in this area just happen to have an influx of athletes? I find it hard to believe that parents from outside the area are drawn to the Amish country to have their girls play soccer. I am trying to think of a similar instance in NJ or NY where one town has enough players to support three teams. How big can Lancaster be anyway? Especially when you don't count the cows.
Well ya see now, we here feed em well and work em hard....PAC has an overall good reputation for its coaching. Other two can't compare with coaching and club reputation. Only if Lancaster had just one club. Man what a top team that could mean for the area.
Its truly a shame that PAC is not an ECNL club. Especially since its boys side already has their Academy and Pre Academy from U13 on upwards. With the change to birth year next spring, the merger of the best players from each age group may happen. Most likely they will go to PA Classics, since they actually promote having good teams. Legacy finds having an upper tier team more of a hassle and against their overall policy.
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