So much bitterness and jealousy isn't healthy. It really isn't. You need to stop worrying about what's going on at other teams, and if you're one of the parents of a player who's leaving, shame on you. Leave quietly. You made your decision and good for you. I'm not questioning your decision. What I do know for myself, though, is if my daughter had dreams of playing division 1 soccer (she does) and she was good enough to be a meaningful player on the PDA Storm roster (she's not) and if I lived close enough (I don't), there's no place I'd rather she played. It's just the best brand, and provides the best exposure, and the best opportunity to reach her goals. I'm not saying it's the only path, it's just, in my opinion, and based on history, the best path. Similarly, if I had a son who wanted to play in the NFL, and he could either play for University of Texas or Sam Houston State, it's Longhorns all day, every day. It would offer the best chance to play for the ultimate prize while he's there, and the best chance to reach the big show when he graduates. Just like with PDA vs (Insert your own club here), players reach their goals coming from other places, but you can't argue against the history.
Yes but that history was mostly done with only 1 elite team at each age group on the girls side at PDA.And it was done with an 18 player roster on that 1 elite team in each age group.The reason these players are leaving is they are not getting the experience that they are advertizing. The multiple teams in each age group, each with players hoping for the experience you describe, as well as oversized rosters on each of those multiple teams means only maybe 8 or 10 players among as many as 85 in each age group at PDA are really getting that "Texas" experience.The rest are cash cows for the club and their dues pays the way of the top 8-10 who ride for free or next to nothing.
The inflated rosters are a going to make people unhappy. But it brings in extra cash and keeps players from other clubs. It will always be a revolving door for players 15 through 25 as people discover it sucks for their kid. But someone else will step in and give it a shot so why would the club care. How can Mr. Integrity actually tell 13 and 14 year olds with a straight face that its better to train with him than to play in games somewhere else. What a crock, but if you're buying their selling.
12:40 is correct.Look at 12:30, a PDA employee, either a coach or administrtor, posing as supposedly a parent of a player who dreams of playing in college is only she was good enough to make one of the 3 teams at PDA.Come on now.We understand you have some parents up there so drunk on the koolaide you are selling that they will beleive any explanation no matter how far fetched, but please don't insult our intelligence by your obvious posing as someone from outside the club carrying their water and spinning for them. Puulease!
1:07I have gotten the run down on the new PDA team.Some have decided not to go down to the DragonsMost have decided to play for the dragonsAnd some will join from the outside.We are talking about 7-8 girl swap in total.So dragons will still be strong.The ECNL team will get strongerThe ECNL team will still carry more than 21 players.
1:31 Thanks, but do you agree the 5 left on their own choice without going to tryouts.Also the Rage transfer was told she would not be allowed to play for Storm next fall once she enters high school.
Every storm player went to tryouts. . There were 5 kids moved to dragons. Maybe a few have chosen not to play for dragons. Obviously those kids and parents ar upset and come to this sight to bash program. What they should be doing is working their butts off and prove coaches made a mistake.
What's wrong with the Dragons. 3rd or 4th best team in the state!
Nothing wrong with the Dragons (besides a terrible team name).
Why so much concern about Dragons roster?. Though we all agreed 4 Storm players play on every PDA team to help them win.
"We all agreed". What a great statement. So by saying that it must be true.
6:49- SARCASM!!!! Unbunch your briefs, grab a drink and breath. Nike commercial was great. My daughter noticed the PDA uniforms.
Anyone know what is going on with Crush? I heard at least 15 players are leaving (both U13 teams combined). Will be interesting to see how this all shakes out for the Fall...
Great commercial for those pda family and friends. Great acting girls you all looked great in that powder blue. And then you have the reality of the two MFA players from the U13 selected to the US National team roster. You pda people can have the commercial limelight.
10:30Good for them. but how does it help your daughter?And remember being picked is an honor but lotsa changes between now an u18.also at the older age groups there are lots of PDA players on national teams so it seems your perspective is very narrow to this age group only.
EDL NPL finishedhttp://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=43063&Gender=Girls&Age=13TSF takes North, Wildcats win South.First place from each division plays second place of other division, then winners play each other for trip to finals. TSF vs SJEB. Wildcats vs NJCSA. I would say Indiana is up for grabs.
MF what a disgrace. Putting ECNL girls on NPL team this weekend when havnt played for them all year. Can't believe patents stand for this.
Not just any MF players, they were there best 5 including 2 U.S. National Players.
That just dosn't seem very sportsman like to me. Why use ECNL? why not just their north players if south team is short players?
Because they want to win !
They weren't short players.
2:47 & 2:59 MF parents don't pick who came to play. That was coaches decision. We know our team does not have a bench to sub players. If you want to state facts then you would know we only had 3 girls added to play with us today. Ajax as well had some Storm players guesting on their team. Don't come on here throwing hate!
Who did Match Fit play?
What was the score?
MF Pre-Ecnl played PDA Pre-Ecnl (storm), game was tied 1-1 after regulation and PK's, PDA won in PK's.MF NPL played PDA South (Ajax) Matchfit won 4-0.MF had 3 Pre-Ecnl players, 2 of which have played with them on and off over the course of the year. PDA Ajax had 2 who normally play with storm, but are rostered to Ajax also and play with them on and off.Didn't see PDA North (Dragons) vs Penn Fusion game, so not sure of that score,
So the 2 National team players have played on NPL team before? Clearly what they did today was to help the Club have an opportunity to go to the National championship. Club ahead of players. The AJAX players have been on AJAX since the beginning of the year and we're fortunate enough to get a shot at ECNL. Big difference!What MF dos today was shameless. Don't try to sugar coat it.
Gotta get used to this folks.it's Club Soccer.Any girl of age on the club can play with any team within the club.This is U.S. Club soccer. They promote this as a way of life.As long as every club has the right to do the same thing then all is fare.Soccer Nut
Not blaming the parents but don't defend a shameless and disgusting display of bad sportsmanship!
I did watch the East Meadow vs Worldclass game and saw some of the PDA vs match fit game.Both games were good solid games.Soccer Nut
3:36, no hate for the parents and the players only the club.
What's all this about - WHO CARES? Didn't you pick PDA to play ECNL if not why are you there? From the sounds of it this MF team is the ECNL team next year so adding ECNL players is the logical choice - to have them play a few early games in INDIANA. This is to funny,this is a good test for your kids to see if you are at that level. PDA Dragons are now playing the #2 team in NJ - PDA Storm just became #1 - we will see what they are made of tomorrow and the girls moving up get a taste of things to come. ENJOY win or lose it's just a game - an important game but still just a game.
Most ignorant post ever on this blog! Now you are a parent as distasteful as the team you daughter plays for.
If it were bad sportsmanship by Matchfit, why did PDA do the same thing?
4:50 I think 4:14 answered that question.
PDA does this every year, this is why there is a rule about only have 4 players play for both. This is because PDA abused this last year.Match Fit did nothing wrong, those players are on the roster then they can play. I saw you Storm players playing for Ajax as well.
Guess what folks? World Class did the same thing today. It's the nature of the Beast. Atleast the PDA and MF teams have used these players at various times this year. It's the Academy life. Live it, love it or move on.
Fcv win va npl beating pwsi 2 1 today. Shows what a mockery the rankings are as fcv have now beaten pwsi twice away from home this season.
I cannot believe that PDA is on here taking crap. They used players that hasn't played against MF NPL at all this year. They have played head to head 3 times. I guess MF turned the table on PDA and the parents didn't like the outcome.
Our club puts itself first over girls and shows "poor sportsmanship" because they believe the other team does this. Even more disgusting! Listen to how you sound. Read it back to yourself in a couple of weeks.
"So the 2 National team players have played on NPL team before? Clearly what they did today was to help the Club have an opportunity to go to the National championship. Club ahead of players. The AJAX players have been on AJAX since the beginning of the year and we're fortunate enough to get a shot at ECNL. Big difference!What MF dos today was shameless. Don't try to sugar coat it."Yep but they did not cheat, they played by the rules. They want this team to go to nationals, so all hands were on deck to get this team over the hump.
Never said they cheated. I said it was disgusting, distasteful and poor sportsmanship.
So why did PDA play their ECNL players today in the NPL and not on the pre ECNL? " because they wanted this team to go to Nationals"Same situation. No need to sugar coat it. I wouldn't call that unsportmanship. PDA does the same thing. They both used rostered players.
PDA put their club before players....if not, why didn't the ECNL girls play with the pre ECNL today? You come on here crying foul and you don't even realize that your club pulled the same thing and what about the players who have started for the Ajax all season?
Their was not poor sportsmanship on MF's behalf. Only bitter parents on Ajax. Face it with or without the girls that came to help out and play MF Npl has beaten you repeatedly without any add-on players and just because they had these girls today it bothers you even more so.
5;31All Players on Ajax were rostered with Ajax since beginning of the year. they belong to Ajax. Because of their good play, They get a chance to with encl. team. ( but they are Ajax players)Players today for match fit were ecnl players playing down to the NPL team so that the team could field a solid 11 And go to nationals.Seems like a pretty different situation to me. match fit girls playing down Ajax girls sometimes get a chance to play up.
I guess we will never know if MF NPL was good enough to go to NPL Nationals. I feel bad for the "NJX" girls who stuck with their team over the years. Kudos to the girls on the real NPL team.
Wait: reading these posts. MF Ecnl players played with NPL.Then how in the world did PDA Storm go to PKs with MF Encl if their best players were not there?Says a a lot about the MF North program
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yes it does- you pack in on your side and hope for a counter because your to exhausted from chasing the ball
Maybe the MF girls getting cut are better than the ones staying? MF couldn't beat them with their regular players.
8:05pmI have seen your game's vs Match Fit all 3 times this year.Every time you played Match Fit, Match Fit played a different formation. I am a coach for a very long time, I noticed this again today. I agree with you to a degree. Match Fit played Delayed the majority of the game. I personally applauded the coach on playing multiple formations throughout this season. I thought the game plan was perfected by Match Fit today. Your team had possession East-West barely North-South. PDA girls were getting frustrated, unable to break the lines. First 10-15 minutes of the game, PDA indeed had the better play until the tactics changed. Not many real scoring chances after this tactical change. Possession, for sure was 60-40 PDA. PDA had 3 corner kicks to Match Fits 6 (estimates). Overtime, personally was all Match Fit. PDA looked tired, Match Fit countered often in OT. Actually Match Fit, hit the post, missed a break away in over time, had other opportunities that Match Fit Squandered.PDA has a College Coach, today your team won. Congrats, I did not think your coach adjusted to Match Fit adjustments. Today I would lean to Match Fit over your coach today.you as a Parent would walked away thinking what you posted, to me, I actually thought the opposite. I personally liked watching your team and watching Match Fit teams. The only team that I have noticed that change's tactics at this young age happens to be this Match Fit coach. Both teams Soccer IQ are extremely high, I just like that Match Fit are learning many formations. I am going to tomorrow to see if coach changes formation vs World Class.I watched very little of Match Fit NPL vs PDA South. I can not provide details.
Change the rules and allow the Pre-ECNL divison to advance. Silly that they aren't eligible. You do that, this stuff stops. It's by far the best NPL league in the country they deserve two teams. Without that everyone should understand what happened today is fair game. The Pre-ECNL teams are playing for nothing.
Don't have a playoff and the nonsense would stop. Playing 22 games (each team twice) is plenty to pick a team to advance. That way every game is important.
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Ajax. You have not beaten MF NPL for over a year. Would have lost anyway and you have duel rostered players on your team all the time. You lost. Go home. Says allot that MF pre ecnl took storm to PK's with what they rostered. Just wait until new MF ECNL starts next season. Going to be some team.....
9:04 You hit the Nail on the Head!I am still shocked that Storm won on PKs vs Pre ECNL\Black team today
What did they hit in the head? Using pre-ECNL rostered players to win a game? And the best players at that. Then yeah. We will never know who would have won the game. MF NPL is no more.
PDA has done this for years, all of sudden another club has the means to do this to the mighty PDA. Now you parents CRY. Too Bad.
Hopefully the true champion of NPL wins tomorrow. Oh right, they are already winners in playing the right way.
Playing with the teams they have, MF came in 2nd and 4th place in the NE NPL and Pre-ECNL respectively. And behind a PDA team in both cases. So it would seem that when they use the team designated in their respective leagues they are a step behind PDA. Just an observation.
8:37. i watched 15 minutes of today's pda match fit game and I must say that your analysis of what Transpired was pretty generous in favor of match fits tactics. I saw 10 sitting back out of necessity rather than tactical. Soccer Nut.
9:33. It is not ok for any team to do it whether PDA, MF or anyone else. Some else "supposedly" doing it does not ever give a team the right to do it. Stop trying to justify it because it is wrong on many levels. If you want to say that your team does it because, while poor sportsmanship, its legal and that is what your club will always do then there is no argument.
Will the Ajax ECNL players be playing for the Storm tomorrow? I do not think it was bad sportsmanship on any of the teams who used players from their ECNL programs. World Class, MF or PDA. Did East Meadow do the same? I can't believe pda parents are on here crying. They went in to today's game bringing their high powered pre ECNL players from the South and MF turned the table on them. Lol. Great stuff MF.
Match Fleece is a joke. Finished second and fourth in league play. Once again MF kicks NJX to the curb and brings in their top players to win.Obviously MF felt without the top players they could not win. If they did, they could have played their best players in the Pre ECNL games.They have been using ECNL players all year. Thats how they won the NJ Cup.
11:17 - You're wrong, and you're jealous
When I post I hate playoffs, you all call me crazy.NYCSL NPL did it the right way!!!! Every game STA played was equally important and the forfeit they had last fall almost came back to bite them.Reading this board - I have no doubt MF did the same thing last year to get to the NPL Finals.It's youth soccer man - not the NWSLYou do you MF, we already know what the club represents - and saying PDA has done it for years proves what exactly? All it does is MF trying to justify playing dirty. Who takes NT level players and plays them in a "B" team league? Great move - I hope you win your title and you place it right next to last years.Finished in 4th last year and finished in 4th this year you just doubled down this time - smart move MF.
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11:46- MF used guest players and ECNL all year to win. They even brought ECNL players to win in EDP league games. I have no problem with that. Match Fit is a bottom of the barrel ECNL club. As 12:03 pointed out, their club has only 1 team to make the finals in NPL league play. In order to compete with better clubs they have to adjust their team rosters.Match Fit felt they needed these girls to win and have every right to use them.
It's not called guest players if the players are in the club and rostered to these teams. Sorry, the program your daughter plays for is not up to speed.
So you see nothing wrong with using U15 national team players for a u13 B team league? Yes it's all about development at MF!! We get it they are not doing anything wrong they are playing within the rules but it just doesn't seem right does it? Someone please provide a recap of the game once it's done. I want to read how they dominated so we can congratulate them for a great season blah blah blah.
6:18- Sorry your club uses so many different players you don't even know who is in your club.I said MF used guest players AND... ECNL players all year. Used guest players in PDA tournament and ECNL players in NENPL and EDP games. I don't blame MF. They know they can't beat PDA pre ECNL 0-2-1 this year. Good move to put their best players on the NE NPL team to try and get a spot at Nationals. Gives NJX players a chance to watch and learn how to play at a higher level.
6:31- I can give you the recap now. NJX will kick and throw the ball to superstars and get out of their way. NJX players will chase all balls that go out of bounds so superstars can rest. Top player is very good. She scored all of their goals yesterday.
6:18, they are not "rostered" on the NPL team. They are rostered on the ECNL team. Each game a team may use up to 4 other club players. They could have brought any 4 ECNL or MF Black players to play. They choose to bring the best ECNL players. They did this to win.
Can someone explain to me how the greatest club in the world with the best daddy and mommy coaches always appears to be short players?
8:37 PM. Good post Jeff
U15 final is incorrect. PDA south lost to Connecticut 2-0.
Wow is PDA crying? You got beat at your own game. Just accept you lost to a better club all around
fcv against pwsi yesterday was a great game. final score 2-1 to fcv but could easily have been 4-1: fcv have real strength in depth at the club and always try to play the right way.pwsi played hard but could not keep up. special mention to the soon to be ex-pwsi coach. this lady (I use the term loosely) told the fcv coach to p**s off and refused to shake hands at the end. For those sneering at the NPL nationals, I can tell you the fcv girls are so excited to be competing nationally and know they may never get this opportunity again and are going to enjoy every minute of it.
MFA was 19-10-4 against national ECNL comp this year. In the division I'd bet the numbers are similiar. That does not support you comments 6:13. Judging a Club off their B/C teams is an odd way to measure success.
It's not parents for the most part today.It's PDA and MF coaches attacking each other and crying foul.Talk about the Pot calling the Kettle black.Each side trying to claim the other is more crooked and underhanded.
Matchfit outplayed today. Loses in final.
The coach posts here are so transparent
LOL MFA and PDA coaches aren't posting. The wacky stuff I assume are parents who are emtotionally invested. I posted the stuff defending MFA, and I have a lot of respect for both clubs.
What is right won over what is wrong today. Please no more posts. Leave the girls alone.
What was the score?
Agreed matchfit lost to dragons. 3-0.
Dragons were due against this team and played very well. Well deserved.MF also out coached. Even Dragons parents had to be scratching their heads at where some of the MF girls were positioned by their "coaches" today. Again, hats off to Dragons. Good day for them.
Thanks for the VA update - it's cool to have PA updates and now VA - great stuff keep us in the loop.Congrats to FCV NPL and PDA North aka Dragons, I guess that leaves one spot up for grabs - anyone know when EDP game(s) will be played?
Always funny to hear an FCV parent criticize the sportsmanship of another team. Between the dirty play, whiny parents and arrogant players, they really don't have room to criticize anyone.
New NJ Top 3:1) PDA Storm2) PDA Dragons3) MF Pre ECNL
pretty amazing that at the end of u13, that the top teams in NJ and Northeast pre encl. league and northeast NPL league come from PDA. Well done PDA. well done
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The spot is reserved for the Northeast Pre-ecnl team if they want it.
If not, NYSC would be a fine 16th team, after discarding East Meadow (ECNL) in the NY State final.
3:28 Obviously you have not seen fcv play: I can tell you now the parents are very well behaved, the girls are confident and to be an elite athlete you have to have some degree of arrogance and they certainly do not play dirty.If you think the pwsi coaches behavior was acceptable and setting a good example to 13 year old kids then that says a lot.
We will smash them all, then we will smash them again, until there is nothing left, not even hope.
VA do you think PWSI hurt their chances by playing both RCL and NPL? They were in the driver's seat going into the Spring. They lost to RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB who they beat 5-1 in the fall, those 3 points would have given them the Spring and they would have avoided the 1 game playoff? I get why they did both.
First, Ajax parents (if in fact it was Ajax parents) quit the whining postsSecond, although what MF did was not against the rules, it was in poor taste. Having B/C team players have an opportunity to play up, is not the same as having A team ringers play in lower level, no matter what the stakes.Third, congratulations to the Dragons for making it all mean nothing. Good job all season and good luck in Indiana.
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I think pwsi are a team in transition. Their coach is done and they are losing 5 girls (3 to BRYC I think, including their best player). I believe that they fielded U12s against Richmond as they would never have lost with their first team.Also think it is a case of as the girls get older and more skillful just being physical and bigger than the other team is not enough when the other team does not let that style intimidate them.Sure R1CL didn't help as the bad weather meant a fixture pile up and very long journeys.But at the end of the day U13s are just that and will be inconsistent...FCV should really have won State Cup after beating BRYC but Beach put in an inspired performance to knock the girls out in the semis.Seeing the girls enjoy their soccer and grow as people, not just players, is the most rewarding aspect for me.
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Wow...so many haters on here. Feel very sorry for you if you take U13 soccer so seriously.Very few girls will go on to be 'superstars' but having seen my daughter, and her teammates, grow in self-belief, confidence and overall life skills such as hard work: this is what will help them in life, not just some youth soccer.For those that seem to hate - I feel sorry for your kids. Trying to live your lives through them is not good for them (or you).
Match Fit is a punchline in the soccer community. An absolute disgrace what they tried doing this weekend. Love the Mr Magoo reference earlier. Spot on accurate. He's playing checkers while PDA is playing chess.
You people are whack jobs. Matchfit still very strong regardless of what happened this weekend. The pre ECNL team played without 3 of their top players and still took pda to pks. That's telling. The NPL team made it to the final and from hearing what transpired, had to adjust to their games and played well. I give those girls a lot of credit for playing at a high level week in and out. PDA had a great weekend it sounds like. Let's see what next year brings.
MF NE NPL has very strong defense I was very shocked though to see the aggressiveness coming from both the center backs and midfielders
9:20, how can you rationalize this weekend. Your club made a mockery of the sport and came up short everywhere.
MF steals NJX kids of opportunity to play for a National Championship. MF tried to steal it from PDA North, but they refused to let them. MF a classless club. Giving them access to ECNL is like putting lipstick on a pig.
It was unfortunate to hear the MF mothers on the sideline complaining that these 'new' girls haven't played with them all year and they come to this and play the whole game, taking time away from the kids who got the team in the position to play for the title.
8:48 - Calling Match Fit classless - is pretty classless itself.Unless you run a team, and know exactly what happened, and why it happened... And you do not, you should stop with your 10th post about the same thing. Apparently you have a problem with them, did your precious little girl not make their teams? Did they beat your team repeatedly? Stop already, you sound like you need therapy.
You say unfortunate, I say just desserts.
I feel bad for the NJX girls and parents. They were good enough to compete for the NPL championship and it was taken from them by MF. It would have been a better game with the "ringers".
without the ringers.
Hey 9:22, it isn't just one person bashing MF for what they pulled this weekend. It is the talk of the U13 soccer community. Everyone I talk to is talking about it. It is a black eye for MF that won't go away that easy. You made your bed now sleep in it. And btw, no one is putting down the team members or the players brought in. Not their fault.
Question:Will MF send ECNL players to Indiana for the National Cup event, to play with their MFNPL team??
Which players will MF send to Indiana if they brought in players this past weekend. Seems they do not believe their NJX girls could handle it. Such a shame MF!
MF as a club embarrassed themselves bringing those players down. NJX never lost to the Dragons until yesterday. I don't blame the players or parents I point the finger at MF. What you did to your NPL team is a classless act and you got burned for doing such a thing. It's not the NPL girls fault for the loss it's MF and the coaches you had all weekend. My daughter's team has played you 3 times and each time different coaches. This weekend you had your pre-ecnl coach and one of the player's father coaching your NPL team.
This was a great business opportunity for the club and the club played within the rules.The Pre- Ecnl regional championships were considered nothing more than glorified scrimmages so the club took an undermanned NPL team and added their 3 best players at this age group in hopes to bolster this NPL team to a possible National championship title.Although it certainly does not smell very good, it is still within the rules.These clubs are a business first and foremost and then they develop players within the context of their business.But business always comes first.It was calculated move that did not work out because on that day the PDA NPL team was better.I did not see the game but I surmise that on that day the PDA team won because of good coaching and player continuity.I think many people still hold that there should be some purity in competition and that these ECNL clubs should put the spirit of development and fair competition first and foremost. ( Which is a belief that should never change)This is where the outrage comes fromBut in the end, this is not the case because when you follow the money of business, and if it ever come in direct conflict with the purity of development and fairness- Money will always win. Every time.We should probably leave match fit alone as they are not the first club to do this and will not be the last ECNL club to do this- No ECNL club is above reproach on this mater.But parents everywhere should take note that an ECNL club is in the business of winning and branding for their club. They are not in the business of development and fair play. Soccer Nut
It's within the rules to substitute on every throw in when you're trying to kill the clock, but it's also bush league and any coach that plays that way should be embarrassed. It's cowardly and shows little confidence in your players. I'd say what MF did was even more cowardly, and should an equal amount of confidence in the girls they already had.
MF is a for profit business. NJX is run by a mom who needed MF so that she could keep hope alive. The NJX model and the MF model are neither consistent nor compatible. The gaps in each other's products (MF "acquired" the best team not named PDA while NJX sold nervous NJX parents on a "future") allowed each of them to get what they wanted. MF gets more players; better players and more fees. NJX gets another year. The top NJX players will come out whole. The remainders will be youth soccer road kill. Nothing new here.
NJX team notorious for stall tactics when nursing a a lead or draw.
10:34 Spot on sccer Nut.Just as with the oversized rosters it is all about the business with ECNL.That is why they should not become the DA.They are all about pay for play which is not what the DA will be about.
Soccer Nut brings up a great point re: guest players & impact to team continuity.
I'll bet 1 MF mother wasn't complaining as noted above that the guest MF girls played the entire game while the NJX/MF girls sat. She certainly couldn't be surprised either. Sell your team, players and program out and it comes back to bite your team, players and program. Just so long as your kid played, why should you care? Don't tell me your kid didn't play a lot either?
Nobody said its not legal. Nobody is blaming any of the MF kids. This just shows what kind of decision makers run Match Fit. If you on next years NPL teams you will be replaced by ECNL players in "big" games. To say that one person has an issue with it, you have your head buried in the sand. To be fair, I think the NJX parents were more furious than PDA. I think it actually motivated and fired up the PDA north team.
You guys are all crazy. Congrats to STA, Dragons, NEFC & FCV so far with the EDP team TBD.With 4 groups and 5 R1 teams going to Indiana - I am 2 of them will be playing each other in group stage. Wish Region1 made it easier to find the qualified teams - to much work. These are the only teams that are still playing with u13 rosters. I would imagine others have moved to their u14 rosters?Good luck all - MF forget all these posts - it was a good game - Dragons are a better team than people give them credit for. Curious to see their placement at the next major they apply for. F1?? F2?? F3??
some of you are just pure crazy. Would bet most of the posts are not from MF or PDA. The MF powers to be felt bringing the 3 players down would help. Turned out it did not work. Big deal. Life goes on. You win some and you lose some. Why lose your minds over this. And my kid is on the team. You really think this all matters at U13. You are all dopes if you do. This is a marathon at the top. All of the girls on both the MF and PDA ECNL teams will be scratching and clawing at each other to stay on those teams until U16. If you do, you will be committed to a school to play soccer period. So why lose it over this at this age? This team won the state cup and lost in the NPL finals against another good team. Where is the problem? Move on.....
You're crazy. 80% of the posts on this board are from MF and PDA and that includes coaches.
It matters to the 3 kids who didn't play in the game. Remember those 3?Funny too. Look at the MF NPL team roster that now has the other MF kis included. The MF kids shown that are from NJX only show their NPL affiliation while the other MF kids show NPL and ECNL. And yet it was the NJX team that beat that other team that moved into MF. Only in youth soccer do the players who win less and play less well get recognized and pushed up the ladder from the kids who won more and play better. NJX girls...you got duped and now dumped.
9 girls from that NJX team are on the ECNL team next year. Duped???? Good luck at your club as I guess they are offering more..... I highly doubt it.
So 9 players going to ECNL and the 3 best players from current ECNL and you got thumped by PDA's B team?
yeah, how good are these girls anyway. This team had very little technical skill. looked like 11 athletes on the pitch with very little skill. Dragons had more Skill
9 from the team that beat Dragons a few weeks back in state cup, never lost to them previously but lost to them yesterday. And 11 players from the team that tied PDA storm 0-0 on Saturday. Yes. Spin it all you want..... I am OK with this at my club. Good luck with your program.
First time this dominating technical team has ever scored a goal on this team. Relax people..... Gotta love the parents that never played the game. Keep over eating and cheering your kids on.... Poor kids gotta live out your life or they are most likely berated in the car ride home....
How does that humble pie taste in Long Branch these days? Still as good as it did few weeks ago?
02:38 Long Branch ????
Everyone knows where most of the bitter posts come from. Bitter on any and all but his team......
So sensitive 358. Need thick skin if you are going to read & post in here. Did the Champions League fiasco do all this to you or was it losing to PDA 3 times at u13 or going from "supposed" #1 in the country to barely a top 10 team in the state?
Lol... You can't blame the wildcats this time. MF coach all over this board.
There were only 2 MF ECNL players that played with the MF NPL/NJX team this weekend very confused on who the third player is that everyone is talking about
PDA North played NJX 4 times this year @ U130/0 Fall0/0 PDA tournament1/0 NJX wins state cup3/0 PDA North wins vs NJX and 3 ECNL Players (2 U15 National players)PDA North 1/1/2 +2 GDMF NPL/NJX 1/1/2 -2 GD PDA North the better team. NE NPL Champion PDA Storm 2 wins and 1 tie vs MF pre ECNL. Pre ECNL Champion
PDA- Yeah Baby! We are the best and have the greatest u13 teams ever. Get a grip clowns. You had a good season. This is why no one likes you. You are on here bragging and boasting about winning a u13 league. Damn adults acting like kids.
And all that at U13 wins you a........ That's right! Nothing! Good stuff but really???? All means nothing right now. Don't give me the feel good BS. It really means nothing..... Marathon first timer..... Did you expect NOT to be in that position? Top spot will either be PDA or MF each year from here until the end. Good luck to all.
If u13 means nothing why did Mf play their best two players on NPL team. One Word describes MF and it's not FRAUD it's JOKE of a club.
PDA gets slammed for what tournament they do and don't play. What leagues they play. What flights they are in. Think it's ok if they state the fact they won their leagues. I am sorry if that offends you. U13 does matter for the NPL Teams. U14 is when it matters for the pre Ecnl. Looks like Storm on the right track.
7:33 - Step up and say which upstanding club your daughter plays on. You don't have the stones to do it.... Yet you're trashing another club... your babbling reeks of jealousy
MF is the biggest joke in ECNl. Can you please enlighten us where u14 will train? Half kids in south other half in north. That's a joke all by itself . Probably only EcNL club without a facility. I'm sure in a few years you'll be where your boys academy is now. Relegated.
It is such a joke when your entire roster is committed to play in college as Sophomore's.... It really is. Here bitter bitter..... Lol!
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11:21 It's all about winning at 13 years old in youth soccer?
Winning is the game and the only way you can measure teams. Teams will develop players to fit their system to win games. Doesn't mean the best players when it comes to soccer ability - just means the best players the team can use to win games. Should this happen at u13? Well if you play in a league that awards winning by advancing to Regional/National events then YES it's all about winning at u13. If you the league or tournament does advance anywhere and all you get is a 1st place medal - then winning doesn't mean a thing it's all about the showcase of the players and Good teams will win more times than not. But what do I know - I am just a poster on this block
An earlier post indicates 9 MF-NJX kids going to MF-ECNL next year. Is that confirmed? Ok then and assuming this is accurate...What happens to the other 6-7 NJX kids? Do they go to the Holmdel B team? Or do they get told that there will be games created for them to play in too with some of the ECNL players filling in the line up? Of the 9 who are going, how many rostered players will there be on the ECNL team? Is this a roster of 18, 24 or more with 18 getting jerseys on game day? Where will this ECNL team be training? Have the bottom of these 9 players been told directly that they are now going to the MF A team in the age group where their playing time might likely be limited and their roster spot constantly subject to change? There are only 5 MF-NJX players who have the physical requirements to compete in ECNL and only 3 of these who have position specific skills and technique capable of competing at this higher level. This might be a good option for those 3 assuming they have their eyes wide open. But the math and reality for the other 6 will not work so says history. Good luck to all of them.
11:21. You sound like a dope. You are the reason people on this board have an issue with PDA...and I am from PDA. How about a little humbleness instead of constant arrogance.
In 6 months the same parents hooting and hollering about what a great choice they made and now they are going to ECNL will have a rude awakening when reality hits and their child is often not dressing and playing only minor minutes. MF ECNL coach will have his hands full next year.Is MF keeping the current coach for next year?
7:19 Care to say which 'fraud' club your kid is on? Most of the parents have no problem sharing where their kid plays
No way 11:21 is from PDA. Has facts wrong. Someone looking to start trouble.
8:38Which fact is wrong?
Where is TSF vs SJEB NPL semifinal being played?
8:47, all of them.
GS just had some significant movement. Points are falling off. Surprising teams at the top.
League points need to be added. Then the rankings will change again.
7:39What is so difficult to understand?MF has an NPL team that will be joining New York Club Soccer LeagueSo the NJX players play for that team.Do some MF Black (the old Jaguars) also join them? I'd think so.How about the MF pre ECNL players that are not invited back to ECNL? Sure, them too.Do we at times see some ECNL players leak down and play some NPL? Count on it.
Congratulations to GFA U14 for being the new #1 GS-ranked team in the nation
GFA, wow, now that is a name not heard much at u13, what ever happened to u13 GFA? Did the departure of 1 player, crash their entire program? Even if that player is one of the best in NJ?
Best I can tell is staff was spreading itself thinTough to run two age groups on a state, let alone national level without the proper help
I didnt like them poaching players, frankly.
u14 board that boring??
"Leak down"????????????? What a fool. Pipes leak. Faucets leak. You can even take a leak. Anywhere there's a leak, not good.Face it. The preponderance of the NJX players are the victims of the "leak".
How Did NJCSA Elite get to playing Wildcats in Semi Finals??? I'm sure Daddy and Mommy Coaches are scrambling to get guest players for that game.
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12:00 Yes, looking at their roster they are up to about 25 players.Adding players from Boca and NJX this week.Will hardly be able to recognize them as the team that played NPL League all season.I guess it will be the same deal as what MF did replacing the players who were on the team all year with ringers just added in the last 2 weeks for NPL Playoffs.
Wow I thought Boca was an up and coming team? So players left BOCA for NJCSA NPL? NJX has been rumored for some time.Still have NJ Wildcats as the favorites to meet TSF in the final nothing has changed since August 2014.Good luck to all the players -enjoy the ride - win or lose
Ex-NJX player has been on this team since beginning of year. Stop making drama when their is none.
Teams still playingUS Club Soccer National Cup XIVMatchFit NPLNYSCUSClub Soccer Mid-Atlantic RegionalTBDEDP NPL for birth the NPL FinalsSJEBTSFNJ WildcatsNJCSA EliteNPL FinalsSTAPDA DragonsFCVNEFCRegion1 ChampionshipsNJ WildcatsPennLegacySachemGood luck to All still playing for some hardware. We know winning at u13 means nothing to some parent posters or coaches not participating. Win or lose it's only a game just remember to enjoy the ride
It may be a game, but its costing me a fortune!
So will MF be sending their vanguard to the National Cup?
1:35 Never cheap -imagine how the ECNL parents are going to feel?U14 ECNL - MA, CT, NY, NJ, PA, CA, WA and maybe IL - ouch!!U15 NENPL - MA, CT, NY, NJ, PA, FL and maybe VA (jeff cup) or CA (surf cup)I'm sure any team that qualifies for national league or for Regional or national events will accumulate some serious miles and this doesn't include WAGS, BETHESDA, JEFFERSON, FC STARS, CASL or DISNEY.You play premier level soccer TRAVEL is part of the game.
I am more curious to see who PDA sends to Indiana to play with the dragons.. I wonder what would have transpired if match fit didn't juggle their line ups. The storm game was very close, in score anyway. Match fit npl plays better together without the superstars .Curious to see if pda can resist the temptation of taking along the rage girl, and their national player.
PDA is not Matchfit
PDA isn't Match Fit? Interesting..Why hasn't anyone brought up the fact the the "national team player" from PDA played in the game against Match Fit? You PDA people are hysterical. Kill MF but its ok for you
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I would say no. As reported on this board. The Ajax girls (South) were provided with an opportunity to play with the Pre-ECNL (Storm) team at times - when not needed either conflicts/out performed at practice they would play with their team South aka Ajax. Also reported on this board the North NPL team aka Dragons never used a field player from Storm and never had any of their field players play for storm during the season. It was also reported that a dragon Goalie was used by Storm a few times this year and since the games are the same time the Storm goalie would start for the North NPL team.Would PDA do it? Not sure I know the answer to that question, but If I had to guess on the reports made I would say Dragons go with what they have. from the sounds of it This team knows their place they are the NPL North team and that will never change - players might but the teams is what it is one of the PDA "B" teams. I would love for PDA to take this team and let them play the USYS channel in addition to NPL. Has any club ever had a ECNL Champ and a National League Champ in the same season?
3:56 you are spot on.
Hate to bring this up but did you all forget the Stragons,when you beat the Dragons the next time you play the stragons...come on man,they will bring the best they can. But good luck!!!
Is it known what team will be playing in regionals for a chance to advance to Indiana? It's been rumored from NJ that both STA teams will take a crack at it as well as PDA and MatchFit. But no team names have been released.
So.........What lineup do we wish to see tonight for USA?Wouldn't mind seeing Whitney Engen
Boca is playing in regionals. Not losing any players. Gaining some though. Nice weekend coming up. Good rivalries.
Stack that lineup baby.Heck they do it in high school, college and pros when championships are played.Wait. They don't? Never mind then.
Real teams don't stack!
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4 TSF ACADEMY 01/021 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 TSF to play the winner of NJ Wildcats/NJCSA any news on if that game was played or when it will be played? Wow every spot has been locked up but EDP's these teams are going to get banged over the head when it comes to booking
Finals will be played this saturday, time and location TBD.
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