When will EDP Fall Brackets be published?
Mass teams much better test to play than any of the PA teams. Just hope the FC stars peeps schedule the thing correctly. I agree with one of the posts. No locals should play each other. Solid top bracket.....
11:48Most of the top NJ teams are US Club teams (ECNL/NPL) they don't do USYSA.
Tomorrow our girls are u13.
OL' Slick slid his way right into MF.
I agree. NJ teams would much rather face MA teams than PA teams.
1244NYSC guy - not a chance, pal
8:22. What do you mean?
10:19, not a chance at what, being in the top bracket?You think WC Charleston is a better team dude?Dream on, as Aerosmith would say...
I know they still have all of the points that they earned over the past 12 months, but for the integrity of the tournament, you just can't have Rage in the top bracket of Spirit. It's a dramatically different, and by all accounts worse team.
Victory Express Platinum is the current PA West state champion and is ranked #2 in PAW on GotSoccer. Maybe you could substitute them in for Rage.
Rage would not be doing the players who stayed with the team any favors by putting them in a bracket where they cannot compete. Much better to have them in second bracket and if they dominate, it will be a real confidence boost for them.
Do we know who JOINED Rage?Everyone likes to concentrate on who left.
Crew JuniorsWildcatsWest ChesterPDA Ajax- Who else is the class of this event?
I don't know...Calvert? The Bing?
STA tournament may have some good locals/NY in it like last year? now that our girls are U13 do we change name of blog?
Rage only won a single game after the calendar turned to May (against a GFA team that only won two games after the calendar turned to April), and they avoided all end of season and summer tournaments, which they haven't done in previous years, suggesting that they also know how poorly they would have done. There just isn't enough talent throughout the rest of South Jersey to fill that void. I'm not saying they'll be terrible, but they won't be playing at the same level. That's just the reality.
GS rankings are result based already and would be so much better if league (point pyramid) and championship competitions received 2 to 3 times the points that tournaments get. Tournaments should have the reduced value because of attrition and guest players.GS should include only leagues that use their software and Regional/National Leagues should be entered manually. Their rankings will hold a lot more water.Just a thought.
GS became a joke when they started awarding ponts for leagues. Should only be tournament based. I do not like it now.
Tournament based? You obviously played the game.
7:37 either ignorant or has an agenda.
Maybe I am ignorant, but I hear that even the jags league will turn to points. I think you should have to do well in an elite tournament against elite teams to earn points. Some teams have done nothing but have an enormous amount of points. The only teams I can say who deserves points at this age group has been Storm and NJX. Those two teams are consistent. Look how many points Ajax and Rage has gathered and look how many titles they have. The GS point system is starting to get watered down. Out: IGNORANT MOFO
10000 of NJX's points came from the biggest BS tournament ever..
Your argument makes no sense. Here is Ajax and Rage. They have earned the points awarded the same as Storm and NJX. The only difference is no state cup. There can only be one winner of that per season.Ajax 6/28/2014USCS Mid-Atlantic Regional - Hammonton NJ G12 Champion 3389 4/12/2014PDA Spring Kickoff 2014 G12 Blue Champion 5184 3/24/2014New Jersey Cup 2014 G12 11v11 Semi-Finalist 1751 1/2/2014EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 G12 11v11 1st Division Central 4th 3877 9/7/2013EDP LEAGUE FALL 2013 G12 11v11 1st Division Central 1st 3088 Rage 2/1/20142014 Region I Colonial League G12 Colonial League 5th 1149 1/2/2014EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 G12 11v11 1st Division Central 5th 2008 11/23/2013MAPS Cup 2013 Fall [U11-U14 Girls] G12 G MAPS CUP Platinum 11v11 Champion 6833 9/21/2013National Championship Series u11-u14 G12 Qtr-Finalist 918 9/7/2013EDP LEAGUE FALL 2013 G12 11v11 1st Division South 2nd 705 8/24/20132013 Spirit United Kickoff Classic - GirlsSemi-Finalist 2500
11:14 Awarding Leagues points is the best way to do it.In a Payramid format.With the top flights earning these points10000 - National League7500 - Regional League5000 - State Premier League2500 - Travel leagueBased on these accumulatuions the tournaments should be awarded their flight points 1/2 for any team that has lost more than 1/2 roster or and team using Guest players all other teams should earn max point.Once that is done the best 5 Tournament results are used to keep everything equal. Anything above 5 doesn't count in a team's ranking formula.This evens the playing field and put's an importaqnce on League Play and the teams playing at the highest levels are awarded properly.But of course ranking u13 teams is a joke - doesn't mean I still don't enjoy it since I am a clown.
Well, the better teams play the league games to learn and develop. It's not that important to win the league.
If you only get points for winning an elite tournament against elite teams, only about 5 teams in the state would be ranked. Dope.
2:30 what are you talking about?
@4:59 I was referring to this guy:Anonymous said...Maybe I am ignorant, but I hear that even the jags league will turn to points. I think you should have to do well in an elite tournament against elite teams to earn points. Some teams have done nothing but have an enormous amount of points. The only teams I can say who deserves points at this age group has been Storm and NJX. Those two teams are consistent. Look how many points Ajax and Rage has gathered and look how many titles they have. The GS point system is starting to get watered down. Out: IGNORANT MOFOAugust 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM
Yes it will because elite teams will move on , good for other teams who base their life/parents on GS points. Was there ever a wildcats vs crew????
12:19Total BSWinning EDP or NPL shows sustained success over time.
Thanks 7:59. I agree with you.10:59 I agree with you as well as long as there are no playoffs to determine the league winner. Each team plays each other home/away best team is the champ.have your playoff and call it something else but don't let that determine your league champ. Just my 2 cents
Looking forward to see what the brackets are for the Stars of Mass Tourn, cannot wait to see some old and tiresome faces, again.
edp will be weaker this year, they take anyone who applies, it is about the money now as we get older
2:32pm Those weaker teams will get exposed once they play the upper tier teams and will fall off EFP the Spring season. Having more teams join helps with teams more locally for league play. I thought after league play EDP was going in a direction where top overall team in there League/Bracket will playe regionally vs. other top teams from other brackets. Right thing to do determine the true overall top tier teams in the region.
EDP was great this past season. It's a shame it won't be as good.
NYCSL groups are out (including new 9 team NPL division)
There is only one team that now cares about GS points becaue all the other top teams are moving on to bigger and better things without them. Here kitty kitty.......
We need to put an APB out for Parsippany, last seen walking to the nearest bridge.
And as everyone takes out their camera-phones, and begins to film, a small lonely voice, with courage and passion yells, jump.
Cats playing in NPL. Only 2 pre ECNL teams. How are they left behind? Here nutty, nutty...
Cats are in a weak division. Should claw their way to the top with little effort.INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL (NJ)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC LADY JAGUARS (BLUE) (NJ)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
FC Stars brackets are out.. people are not going to be happy
Post the brackets or post the link, no?
Not what you asked for, but here are the Early, Pre-Preliminary Spirit Kick-Off Classic Flights:Girls U13ChampionshipBracket ACREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE) Bracket BFC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE) Bracket CPENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) Bracket DCES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE) EliteBracket APA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE) Bracket BPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE) Bracket CISA 01 NPL (NYE)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE) Bracket DVICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ) PlatinumBracket AHULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)MOUNT LAUREL UNITED FURY (NJ) Bracket BSOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)STRONGHOLD SC FURY (NJ) Bracket CHFC READY '01 (PAE)PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 (DE) Bracket DPA RUSH (PAE)WARRINGTON FC BOMBERS (PAE)CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL (LAZARES) (PAE) PremierBracket APREMIER ANGELS (MD)CHELTENHAM SPORTS METEORS (PAE)BUCKINGHAM UNITED SC STING (PAE) Bracket BCONTINENTAL FC ARSENAL '01F (PAE)FREDERICKSBURG AREA SA FASA IMPACT ELITE '01 (VA)SOUTH PARKLAND YA SPYA HURICANES 01/02 (PAE) Bracket CLOWER MERION SC HERRICANES (PAE)HARFORD FC UNITED LIBERTY (MD)FC EUROPA FCE FORCE (PAE) Bracket DUKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS RED (PAE)LOWER MACUNGIE YA 01/02 LMYA GRIZZLIES (PAE)RAGE SC '01 REAL (PAE) GoldBracket AVINCENT UNITED F.C. VENGEANCE (PAE)BEADLING SC BEADLING WHITE (PAW)WHITPAIN TRAVEL WAVE (PAE)FC PROVIDENCE HURRICANES (PAE) Bracket BDELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH BLACK '01 (DE)COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SOCCER FC BUCKS FURY NPL 01 (PAE)FC YORK '01 ELITE (PAE)PIPELINE SC RED-BOWMAN (MD) SilverFC BRANDYWINE ELITE U13S (PAE)RADNOR SC SAMBA '01-02 (PAE)OSHAWA KICKS SC RENEGADES (CND)WEST CHESTER UNITED EAGLES 01 (PAE)
I don't see the Stars Flights on their website, and as they are not using GotSoccer, I can't use my usual tricks to get an early view.
Gotta think they'll move Pipeline down and Ajax up. And then move one of Rage and Ajax to Bracket A so that there are not two NJ teams in the same bracket.
Move Rage down 2
7:34- Disagree. I think that is a very good bracket for the Wildcats. The other teams have been developing their soccer teams to play good soccer, sometimes at the cost of wins.Wildcats have always been a win first team. Teams that have worked on developing all players will be much more competitive and balanced as they get older.
interesting comment Cats in weak division - if that is weak I hate to see strong. lol but duly noted, time will tell. edp will weed out the unwanted by spring we hope. jasgs was disaster this past year with nat 3/4 teams playing at best in the league. the progression should be through mosa to nat 1/premier, jags to edp same with maps for boys.
really? What team in that division is good? Lehigh?IGFA is abysmal, Matchfit B team, Copa, Force?This year's Spring Bracket that Cats were in was strong.
Stars of Mass brackets?
Is that Wildcats, etc. bracket for Fall EDP? And if so, do you have a link to where it was found?
11:09 which teams in that bracket play good soccer?Have you seen Force, IGFA and Copa?
Spirit botched this having Calvert with WildcatsBut good for them that they at least have Calvert in top flight (other tournaments last spring did not)OK, Wildcats - beat Calvert and you're off to a great start this season.
Wildcats have a team that can beat anyone on a given day. Should be interesting.
Let's wait and do our talking on the field guys.Let others make their predictions.
I think what we've also learned about the Wildcats is that they have a team that can LOSE to anyone on any given day. #Boca
ECNL and NE NPL will blow away regular NPL and EDP as we move forward. That is where they will be left behind. But go for the wins now. Coaches will want to know how many U12-13 non top leagues wins your girl had.....Stars of Mass tourney will be a beast. Should be fun to watch.
The Spirit flights are in no way final. I'm sure they'll shift some teams around.
in other words, when looking at a group with copa, gfa etc. who would have thought 6mths ago we would be saying they are weak division. At one point gfa was winning everything from Manhattan to Delco to Match Fit. copa and now with the new great njcsa playing in that division it is up for grabs. Yes on the field is where we learn, the girls will to win is mighty at this age, my girl is full of fire, 12 going on 16 - we all know what I mean. when people say my little girl is bossy, I just look back and say she is a leader.
NJCSAandSTA- Wildcats bracket not poor at all.
these teams from Ne NPL, EDP, and NPL will all play each other in tournaments and the ones who advance thru their leagues will meet up at nationals as well.they all lead to the same nationals.and nationals and the tournaments are where players will be seen, not in league play.
NJCSA is Force. Never won anything..They are great at draws. Great at loading the box and booting. Claim to fame is making it to Semis at Spirit last year with 1 win. STA? They are a wildcard. IGFA even when they were winning were not great. The tournaments involved a lot of roster tomfoolery.
Tomfoolery?If the girls were the correct age, you have no beef.Now....when a team like Breakers brings top S Shore Elite girls to a Jersey event, that's different. Legal. Yet shady.Top GFA player will be missed but they also added - and have played all summer - may show less rust early on.
did they forfeit a tournament for illegal roster or not?Not just age. there are rules, rosters and guidelines for a reason..
What was it - too many guests?Player used on 2 teams in same event?You tell us.
what's the difference? The team was DQ'd for breaking the rules.
gfa beat the PA state champ in Maps Caps. so there is much to talk about. NJCSA will be good with red card coach at helm. some are Force, but Force was number 7 in state, again to become number 7 in the state with several hundred teams and thousands of girls is no small undertaking. disqualified is not good, no body likes a cheater, just not fair, that is where they go wrong. what are they teaching these kids - if that happened we may be gone from team like that.
That was GFA's U13 team in MAPS CAPS, The current U12 Team did not play in that.
Whats the difference? When the discussion is relative strength of teams for 2014-15, the reason behind the DQ is important, yes.
"gfa beat the PA state champ in Maps Caps"What result are you talking about?
lol.. the reason behind the DQ is that club doesn't have full squads and plays girls on multiple teams. They showed up at one of our regular season games with 9 players,
what tournaments is IGFA playing in? Don't see them in Spirit of FC Stars
13s not playing a Labor Day event
So where is the Stars of Mass preliminary bracket?
2:27 NjCSA is not the old Half of Force NJCSA Elite is the old East Brunswick team
The best of old NJ force Team went to Wildcats, keeper, center back and center mid, among others. that team's strength was their D and GK.
Divisions with GS National rank1st Division North #17 FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT)#46 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)#74 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)#78 CFC ARSENAL (CT)#157 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)#109 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)#242 ALLEYCATS U12 GIRLS ELITE (NYE)#N/A HBC SPARK (NYE) 1st Division Central #23 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)#65 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)#98 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ)#103 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)#152 NJCSA ELITE (NJ)#191 PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL (NJ)#252 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)#413 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ)1st Division South #24 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)#51 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)#85 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)#113 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)#236 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
Spirit Flight I with GS National Rank#51 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)#56 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)#77 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)#6 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)#37 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)#60 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)#21 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)#36 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)#113 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)#24 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)#23 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)#62 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)============================Flight II#76 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)#103 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)#330 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)#11 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)#75 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)#163 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)#104 ISA 01 NPL (NYE)#117 PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)#627 FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE)#85 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)#91 VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)#190 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
PDA and Pipeline look to be a mistake both start to P and no way Pipeline is a top flight team.What do you guys think?
What happened to EDP championship? Did no one want to play?
11:o7 you're right about winning v development. At the younger ages you have to balance the two. Some teams sacrifice too much learning to win now.Its easier than you might think. Cats good but lack versatility. Much too rigid from what I have seen.JMO
Eclipse#12 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD #27 TOPHAT 20 GOLD #194 ST. LOUIS SCOTT GALLAGHER#265 MINNESOTA THUNDER #16 FC DALLAS #39 TRI-STATE FA#141 ST. LOUIS SCOTT GALLAGHER SC #155 ELITE GIRLS ACADEMY MAROON#19 COLORADO RUSH RUSH#80 KC LEGENDS INFERNO #118 GOL GSA 02 PRE-ECNL#130 WAZA FC EAST 02 JUNIORS#7 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM#116 LAKE FOREST SA #171 OHIO PREMIER OP ECNL #1702 STRIKE FC
The top 5 that make up GS points - both will carry max points of 10,000 - but are not at the same level - say what you will.Eclipse#7 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM#12 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD #16 FC DALLAS#19 COLORADO RUSH#27 TOPHAT 20 GOLD Spirit#6 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)#11 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)#21 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)#23 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)#24 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
@4:27 - NJCSA has 2 teams - Elite, which is part manalapan, part east brunswick, and part who knows, which also has the old manalapan coach listed as coach and manager - Galaxy, the other team, has a lot of force players, thus the reason they kept forces' gs points, and a different coach, I believe some were referring to as red card coach
FC Stars#2 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL#5 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL#8 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS#9 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE#10 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZEclipse#7 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM#12 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD #16 FC DALLAS#19 COLORADO RUSH#27 TOPHAT 20 GOLD Spirit#6 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)#11 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)#21 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)#23 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)#24 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)What will be the Fall’s other big events?WAGS, Discovery, Bethesda, Disney
WC has an event this fall
FC Stars brackets are out, and they have got it right, and they would know better than you, so quit your bitching.
Wow, njx in B flight at stars of mass.Looks like affiliation with MatchFit has them designated as B Team in that club.what a mistake.
Not B flight Einstein. It's the other side of the top bracket.
Dude, they are in the B flight, I think you should apologize to Albert, he is smarter than you.
Flight i Premiership Blue Bracket A FC STARS OF MASS ECNL NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMIEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZNEFC ELITE U13 GIRLSBracket BBOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNLPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXNEW YORK SC G01SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITEFlight ii Premiership WhiteBracket AA2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED TSF ACADEMY 01/02GWORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTONBracket BFC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITEDALBERTSON FURY '01MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPLPTUSA FC COASTAL IMPACTYup Charlton and MF NPL get no love in MA
Tough love, it's the best type of attention. MFN should switch with Crush, but the rest looks right to me.
Dude If a team is called Pre ECNL, club looks at this as an A team. NPL team would be looked at as B team.
Premiership white and Premiership blue are same level from what I see. Just different sides of the bracket. 16 teams. Winners go to semis and final.
They are NOT at the same level, but some people simply see what they want to see, and most others are in denial. The blue bracket is top-dog.
Missing the point. You cross over for semis. So you need to play all. Take the draw and run.
And sorry your team did not make the cut for this top tourney kitty kitty.......
That is not true, only Blue flighted teams will play each other, they are not going to play White flight, at all.
If white and blue were the same why wouldn't you just have 1 flight?
Scheduling, too many teams, not enough venues. 2 games on Saturday, 1 game on Sunday, and tops in each bracket play for championship on Sunday afternoon, or more likely on Monday.
You play the other 3 teams in your bracket. Winner of Bracket A plays Winner of Bracket B for flight championship. You don't jump flights. Is this your first tournament 8:14?Either way, both flights are quality competition.
I think most people will go with the Breakers to win it all in Blue Flight, but soccer is a game of passion, and anything can happen, including bad calls, player injuries, red cards, and a host of other game-changing events, and yes upsets do happen.
Didn't apply nutty nutty
St Louis team Scott Gallagher is quite good but they have some brass playing up to U14 in such a strong event
Because you knew the talent level kitty kitty. Take the easy way out and play at spirit......
TSF and Crush are only two that really are not at same level and will be in a bit over their heads. But you gotta give them props for trying. Solid tourney.
8:334 divisions gives you 4 winners, thus 4 teams to move on to semifinal.You dont really think they'd have two ECNL teams and the #1 team in Jersey in flight 2, do you?
Handicapping this quickly I'd say Match Fit NPL (NJX) will get to play with the ECNL clunbs in the playoff roundBut I will throw in an upsetEast MeadowSOUTH SHORE (over Breakers)NJX - Match Fit NPLWorld Class
Exactly 9:49. Kitty kitty just likes to try to spread the hate.... This is a tourney you have no problem driving and staying over for. Exactly the reason to be with any of these programs....
Ajax can be the spoiler in that bracket.....
They really cantMay not score a goal. Tough draw.
9:49 You are dense. Look for yourself how it played out last year. In the White Flight Bethesda won their bracket and NYSC won their Bracket. They played each other in the final and Bethesda took the championship.In the Blue Flight NEFC won A and South Shore won B and they played each other for the Flight Championship. Maybe they will move teams before the tournament, but Blue and White don't play each other. I agree it doesn't make since that NJX isn't in the top flight over Ajax or Crush, but that doesn't change the fact that you are wrong about how the tournament will be played. http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=32334
No tournaments are perfectObviously Wildcats in for TSF would have been stronger.Not sure TSF wants this type challenge right now.
Okay, who passed around the stupid-sauce last night? There will NOT play each other, based on last years format, blue did not play white.
Teams will probably move before scheduling, but the Stars people got it right, in that they have teams from NY, NJ, and MA evenly spread-out. Without being moronic, which is hard to do, I like the brackets.P.S. No one is giving us a shot at this, which is perfect, we prefer to be an enigma.
Aren't those non-ecnl B teams like Albertsons #2 team and Stars of Mass #2 and #3, World Class #2 team also in same flight as NJX/MatchFit #2?Also TSF? Doesn't look like they will have very much competition there. Anyone know about FTUSA and Weston?
AS the non-ecnl team in any club your team will always be bracketed as B Team by definition.Someone didn't do their homework before agreeing to affiliation with MF.
I can't speak for the Mass. clubs, but the NYE teams ARE the A teams for those clubs, hahaha
AS the designated non-ECNL team in any club that has an ECNL Team your team will always be considered the clubs B Team by definition.This will often affect your flighting, particularly in out of state events, and almost always when ANY ECNL teams are in top flight.It is part of the set up they have.
Albertsons team was horrible in edp north this past spring.
Bitter kitty kitty..... And we know it is you as you are the one with the most hatred on this blog. As this process moves forward the ECNL and NE NPL will be the best place to play period. Been proven over time and went through it with another kid. You can bash all you want but if you want the top, it is the only way to go. The kids plucked from other programs outside of these are diamonds in the rough. The percentages of kids going on to play in college from ECNL and NE NPL dwarf all others. Good luck.
I was the original post that disagreed that NJX was actually in the 2nd level bracket because anyone that did even a little homework can see they should be in the top bracket over several of the teams (Crush, NYSC and maybe even Ajax, although in Gotsoccer Ajax recently beat them at U12). Seems like MFNJX was an oversight that hopefully gets corrected. Swap out Crush with MFNJX and you got yourself a real strong top 8.
My apologies Albert.
Both Stars of Mass teams in flight II are non-ECNL, B teams from that club.their A team(ECNL Tean) is in flight I.
Thanks 11:15 - Apology accepted.
Swap out Crush for MFNENPL would be right call. It will probably happen. Would balance out all brackets.....
they probably did a little research and deducted the bogus 10K points from the STA tournament and flighted NJX below Crush where they actually belong.
You obviously did not see the friendly they just had.... Not even close. It must bother you so much that you never beat that NJX team... Keep spreading the hate kitty kitty.
GS points are now for the non academy teams. Think it is time we start a top tier blog. Sorry kitty kitty....
World Class is better than NYSC, Ajax and Crush. They are in the second flight with NJX. Its obvious they did not do their research on teams. I wouldn't worry about it to much. Just play your games and handle your business.
If they are so much better why is WC flighted a notch below those teams? They got the flights correct, too much turmoil over in Orangeburg.
Who won EDP championship?
BTW, can you please tell Chris to STFU and let his girls play, let them make their own mistakes, and learn from them.
FC Stars Tournament RulesI think they mixed the teams who do not play each other consistently for a balanced tournament. Don't know if they havea top flight bracket or not after reading their rules and format. It will be interesting to see how gotsoccer awards points to the winners of the 4 groups.I wonder if group 4 is the weakest of the groups and that will make NJX in the 4th flight! Division of 4:Each team will play 3 games within a 4-team group. The top two teams from this group will play for the championship.
What do you mean it will be interesting to see how gotsoccer awards points? There is a formula for the points, it's not arbitrary.
we need gs guy to figure out flight point values.. they may wind up being very close.
12:36You're a dope.
12:50No you are.
so's your face
Crush will have way more of a problem than TSF.... In the deep end of the pool.
I think all the controversy is due to the fact that MFB (aka ECNL) is not going to the Stars of Mass event and therefore, no one will switch out of the tough group to put NJX in their spot. This is the normal process followed isn't it?
is MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL playing U14 for FC Stars?
Did TSF pick up any quality players? If it's the same team as last year, I don't see how hey belong in that bracket. They are good, but NTSC compared to the other teams in there,
I think Match Fit Black may have had enough of playing up.
So is yo MAMA.
Why, isn't that the MF way?
"just play your games and handle your business"Pretty much what the girls on these 16 teams will be doing.3 games vs top teams guaranteed. That is what makes for excellent development.
1:58, well put, boring, but well said.
1217 Who won EDP championship? Who cares unless you're a kitty kitty who likes to meow.
11:29, 11:31, and 2:35-Wow, you really are showing your obsession with Wildcats again.Why don't you blame them for cloudy weather today as well?Maybe they have something to do with the housing bubble as well.This is an anonymous blog my man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc7lOBxa_GsYou're on the B team.. You're on the B team.. sickos
You are on the no access team. Time is running out. Toot a loo kitty kitty...... Once a stray always a stray....
"toot a loo"? Man you're dumber than I thought.
Hey 3:53 - You saying Wildcats U13 players have no access to college coaches?The Wildcats coaches daughter is a assistant head coach in the ACC.You know that conference that had 3 of the 4 teams in NCAA Final Four this year, and has teams like UNC, Notre Dame, Univ of Virginia, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Univ of Louisville, Wake Forest, Clemson, etc., to name just a few ACC Teams. I think the Wildcats players will have plenty of access to some of these coaches.
Parents- If your child has as one of her goals to pllay high level D1 soccer than they need to concentrate on becoming the best player they can be and getting in the best training environment to make that happen.these college coaches will be coming within 2 years and will only care about whether your player is strong enough player to help their program, not which league they play in or which club name is on the front of their shirt.fact is if your player is good enough, any of the programs on this blog will get them the necessary access.It is about becoming the best player they can be in the next 2 years. The window is getting younger every year and the limited athletic scholarship money (NCAA Rules limit of 14 scholarships max shared among around 25 or more players for fully funded D1 Programs)are mostly given out by the major programs by the end of your child sophomore year in hs.
No doubt they will have access. AFTER the coaches pick through the academy programs at U15/16. You still do not get it. There will be an entire level that will be looked at first. I will take those odds versus yours. All I am saying. All about playing the numbers at that age. You can list a few kids from your program while the other programs would have to send you spreadsheets. Too each his own but stop trying to say that the academies don't get the better looks come time when it counts. Really is unrealistic and bitter.
I agree. I don't think its too controversial to say a college coach will look at ECNL before looking at other leagues when recruiting. If I'm a coach, it's a logical answer to the question, "where do I start my recruitment process?"No one's saying other leagues will not get a look. They will. But you've got to figure that the leagues that get the first look will be getter more looks as well. Which is more chances to shine for some kids.And that might make all the difference for some players.ECNL may be the wrong choice for a particular player and her family for lots of other reasons (money, geography), but it's silly to justify the choice of non-ECNL by saying "my kid will get just as many looks at a non-ECNL club as at an ECNL club". There is nothing wrong in saying, "you're right, ECNL gives more exposure, and I'd love for my kid to play for one the ECNL clubs for that very reason, but the fact is..." and then fill in your reason. But if one of your reasons is "they'll get just as much exposure at their current club", you're kidding yourself.
What happened to SDFC?
College recruiters will look for girls who can boot the ball far and find the hole.
College coaches will look for the "best' players out there.regardless of where they play.the quality of the player is paramount, not how many looks you get.the college coaching fraternity is a small world, particularly for coaches from within the same conference.many know each other from playing days in club and ODP regional and national youth teams as well as playing with and against and coaching with and against each other when they were in college.they work the same camps each summer together and attend the same coaching courses.
You're wrong, unfortunately. College coaches aren't going to necessarily go after the best players out there so much as the best players they will have access to watching. And with the schedules they keep, they can't go and scout every event in the world, and they certainly can't waste time scouting events where they're only going to see one or two players worth adding, even if those players may be good enough. They're going to go to these ECNL events where EVERY player is worth scouting, and nearly EVERY player is good enough to consider. So are the players on the ECNL teams better than your daughter? Not in all cases. But is the collective talent at these events better than that of the events your daughter is playing in? 100% yes. So that's where the advantage in playing for an ECNL club comes from. The exposure is because the coaches need to see as much talent in as little time.
Me boot ball far...me good at soccer
College coaches like B Team players because they try harder. Fact!
You misspelled "delusional opinion!"
12:07 is "chris" the wildcats coach?
Dead wrong, ECNL clownNo college coach keeps his job long by not recruiting outside ECNLIf your starling is good enoigh to play at UNC, cool - I wish her wellLeave the other 99.8% to the reality of youth soccer and recruitment.ID camps are a good way to go - and no - they dont ask you if you are ECNL when you sign up or send the e-mail/video and cast you aside if you are not.
So...College coach takes the 14th best player on an ECNL squad (lets say U15 or U16) and passes on the 2nd/3rd best player on a highly ranked non ECNL that plays events well worth a collegiate coach's time. He just didnt have the time to see that top player, so he settled.Heh - funny stuff
No. The coach would take the 8th best player on the ECNL team and the top 3 player from a non-ECNL. But the 8th best player on the non-ECNL? That player is missed.
Your reading comprehension is off. No one is saying that the non-ECNL players don't get a look. They do. But the ECNL players get the first look. And more looks, too.
Now...tell us how ECNL play could possibly hurt a player.Go ahead, smart guy - give it a shot.
The fact is college coaches are lazy. They will use the academy pool first and mostly because it is easy. You guys are giving too much credit to a coach that only makes 35k a year coaching D1 soccer. They do not want to do the legwork. Academies first, showcase second and then maybe others. They can get it all done much easier that way. Coaches are lazy period.
I honestly feel that if a player is a stand out player, then college coaches would have heard about certain players no matter what team they are on. In the soccer circle, these recruiting coaches have formed relationships over the years in all areas of the country so if a player is deserving and a stand out, then recruiters have already been given a heads up and the players will be seen, if a player is good but not a stand out, then they have to count on an ecnl team to get a look. Problem is not all ecnl teams are created equal.
If a tree falls in the forest...
Also the contacts and relationships your club coach has with college coaches is very important.If he or she has sent many successful players to D1 programs over ma y years than his recommendation is highly considered and they will get a coach out to see that player if they are recommended by that club coach as a player who can play for them and is interested in their school..
No 5:26 you are the one who is misinformed.the very top programs(UNC, Stanford, UCLA, Notre Dame) are recruiting almost exclusively from the youth regional and youth national teams, not just club ball.For the vast majority of D1 programs, they don't have the time or budgets to just show up at events and wait for the very best players to jump off the field at them by their dominant level of play.They can't waste their time running after players who may have no interest in their programs or may not be a fit academically.These coaches from this majority of programs show up to events with a list of players by team, name and number and follow a preset schedule of what teams and players they will watch that is made up before they even get to the field.this list is made up of players who have already contacted the coaches and made clear their program is on the players short list.they also already have sent their academic info(GPA, class rank and SAT,etc) and usually the coaches have already viewed a highlight tape provided to them by the player and have usually already talked to their club coach or a coach from another club in the area or their ODP coach and got an independent evaluation of whether the player can actually play at their program from a professional coach.At that point if still interested the college will send an assistant to view the player with their club team or an ODP event and if still interested the head coach will usually make a trip to see the player play before making an offer if the head coach is sold on the player.the key is for the player and family to be proactive in researching the schools that are a fit for the player .Once a short list of 8 to 10 schools who are a fit(usually include 1 or 2 reaches(either academically or soccer level) and 1 or 2 sure things and the rest should be schools that you have a realistic shot at getting into academically and a good shot at playing for based on your playing ability.You need to make sure they offer your intended major and are geographically a fit in distance, size of school and conference.You should consult your club coach if qualified and/or another experienced soccer professional to help you decide what is realistic for you as a player.You then need to start contact with the coaches of this school and send your academic info and where you will be playing in club and ODP events along with your team, number, position and schedule for each event.You can call the soccer coach and if he or she is in and picks up you can speak to them but they cannot return your call so don't get discouraged if you leave a message and they don't call back.Just showing up to events and hoping a school will notice you and come running after you is not realistic for 99% of club players.
11:01 here: also if you have a serious interest in a school consider attending their high school players ID camps.this is a great way to get in front of the coaches of that school and to show your interest is serious.Also set up an unofficail visit to the school and contact the coach in advance to see if they will be in the office and if you can make an appointment to come in with your parents and meet in person on campus.this type of unofficial visit at the players expense is allowed at any age.Freshmen or fall of sophomore year is best as by the end of sophomore year most of the athletic money available is already promised to others and their recruiting class for your graduation year is complete.
Very useful advice for a process that is very confusing and a little scary for those of us parents who will soon be going through this recruiting process for the first time with our child in a couple of short years.this is obviously not your first rodeo.Thanks.
Nice Kitty Kitty!
College coaches are lazy? Lol. What a crock.
6:37. You have no clue what you are in for. This is not a revenue generating sport like football or hoops. The soccer coaches want the easiest possible recruiting process. Yes, they are extremely lazy. The start where the numbers are greater (academies and ecnl) and then they will work there way down. Not sure how you do not see that. But good luck with that.......
First off smart guy, don't assume that your "juggling in the driveway Suzie" is the only kid playing on an ECNL team. Second, anyone who makes a sweeping generalization about a profession like you just did is a moron.
Thank you 11:01 and 11:06 for the good advice. Breath of fresh air on this blog to get valuable information instead of the continuous bashing of players, coaches and teams. Go away jealous people and get a life. Let your girls do what they love and leave them alone.
Long winded kitty v b breakingNutty. Kitty will talk you to death. Nutty keeps it short and stupid. Split decision to kitty by default.
Dude, please just grow a pair and say what you've got to say about the Wildcats. The kitty stuff is tiresome.
Relax kitty. The point is your 2-3 kids that may be able to play at next level will make the jump to ecnl program in a year or two. Then who will be coming to your games to look at your team play. Reality check is all we are saying. Stop getting so defensive.
My kid already plays for an ECNL team, you are just boring me to tears.
ECNL has been around for what 4 years? It't the be all and end all of youth soccer.. You can slap an ECNL label on a bag of crap and it's still a bag of crap.
Bitter boy. Good luck.
Games at U13 will start in just a few weeks and we will see which teams and players are improving and developing the most.You are on record as saying Cats have only 2 or 3 players who are good enough to MAYBE some day play at the next level.We shall see.
Just so we're clear, you think a league wherein the following teams play each other 11 times in the fall and 11 times in the spring is crap? If so, could you please back that up with some facts that support your opinion?East MeadowAlbertson FuryConnecticut FCSoccerPlus CTScorpions SCFC Stars of MassPenn FusionFC BucksFC DELCOMatch-Fit AcademyPDAWorld Class
Still no movement on the Spirit brackets. I can't believe they're going to leave Ajax out and Pipeline in. If they leave Pipeline and a depleted Rage team in Bracket C, I think you can write Penn Fusion into the semis in ink. Brackets B and D look the toughest. Girls U13ChampionshipBracket ACREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE) Bracket BFC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE) Bracket CPENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) Bracket DCES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE) EliteBracket APA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE) Bracket BPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE) Bracket CISA 01 NPL (NYE)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE) Bracket DVICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)
I was referring to the Club with the label, not the league.
Let's use GS to see how the ECNL Northeast division stacks up with the National rank. Unfortunately, the same will happen to these teams as it did with the olders, they will stop playing in many tournaments - since they will play 20+ league games plus ECNL Post season. Not a lot of room to get GS points (maybe a few events) to maintain these high ranks.#1 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL#7 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM#11 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ#15 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY#20 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL#32 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON#60 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL#64 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL#70 CFC WEST ORANGE#84 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL#332 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01#633 FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL
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