Thursday, January 23, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

For the record, ECNL-associated NPL teams only accounted for two of the six NPL champions this year. Incidentally it was PDA at u17 and MF at u18.

Anonymous said...

So much more talent says you, but at this year's NPL finals on the girl's side, only 2 of the 12 teams in finals from u13-18 were associated with ECNL clubs. To be fair, the two that won were PDA at u17 and MF at u18, but your argument that the talent is better doesn't translate into how it played out.

I'm also just sharing truth.

Anonymous said...

NJX will be at State Cup

Anonymous said...

The point is they are pounding the entire year against solid talent when some of the non academy NPL divisions have cream puffs for some games. Lot less wear and tear.....

Anonymous said...

NPL has tightened up a bit

EDP North looks a bit soft

Anonymous said...

FC Copa, NJ Rush, Lehigh Valley, etc.??? Tightened up? Really?

Anonymous said...


What NPL is that?

Anonymous said...

Lehigh Valley not too bad a team

Anonymous said...

Did the below clubs join the EDL NPL? or are they just EDP All in?

Alleycats Soccer Club New York East
HBC New York East
Pipeline SC Maryland
Princeton Soccer Association New Jersey
Ramapo Valley SC Tornados New York East


Did Parsipany and NJSA move from NYCSL NPL to EDL NPL or are they no longer NPL?

Anonymous said...

I heard Parsippany's NPL team fell apart

Anonymous said...

Njx/ mf whatever you want to call them are not bringing guest players to mass. They are having enough of problems selecting a roster because they are not bringing all of their players to the tournament. Going to be very interesting on their selection

Anonymous said...

1:44 yeah that's this age group or did it happen club wide? Did MF take a bunch of girls at all ages?

Anonymous said...

".....are not bringing all of their players to the tournament"

This is seriously WRONG. I am not sure how any parent would put up with that.

They are actually telling players they have to stay home?

The "guest player" statement came about after NJX used guests at Delco (U11), where they lost the final to Hicksville (E Meadow).

Anonymous said...

Parsippany NPL is listed in EDP second division north

NJSA 04 is EDP first division central

- dont know if that is final

Anonymous said...

How big is the NJX FIT roster?

Anonymous said...

Sorry, NJX has never used a guest player for a major tournament. That was an excuse made by a Crush parent after they were destroyed the day before!

Anonymous said...

Roster is no bigger than any of the other Academy's.

Anonymous said...

Are there NPL teams in the second division?

Anonymous said...

How many players?

Anonymous said...

Funny - I recall Crush being quite appreciative of NJX after that Delco tournament. And that continues to this day.

The wienies were Hicksville that weekend. Would have been great had NJX completed the task.

Anonymous said...

2:49 That's normal practice these days.

The starting "XI" is never the problem it's 12-18 if they dress a full 18 that cause the problems.

I'm okay with this, as the girls will eventually tell their parents they want to play more than fight for a spot to be the be on a roster every week. These kids will force their parents to realize they are pushing their kids to much and should chill and let their kid's enjoy. On the flip side their are kids that are driven to be the best and to always move up the pyramid until they are number 1. These kids need this type of atmosphere to always be at their best to move up or if not move down. I don't think there is anything wrong with this. We as parents should know PDA, MF and others will be doing this more than others. Only the best will bring them championships, no loyalty to kids that have been there since u9, no loyalty to a parent that is a friend - it's simple work hard, improve and you'll play as long as you are a team player.

That's just my opinion on this, probably the minority.

Anonymous said...

PS. Sorry for the grammar

Anonymous said...

I would hate for NJX to now get PDA syndrome, acting all high and mighty

as in that last answer to, "How big is your roster?"

Stay classy, folks. And dont separate yourself from the rest of the age group.

Anonymous said...

There is no "NPL Division" within EDP. There are a list of teams that are part of the EDL, but these teams are scattered across the North, Central and South, and some are 1st Division and some are 2nd Division. To the best of my understanding, based only on how it appears to have last year for u13, the EDL is divided into to Flights, and in addition to the EDP division games, the EDL teams play crossover games against each other, and then the A and B Flight winners play each other to represent the EDL. So in theory, does this mean you don't even have to win your division to win the EDL?

Anonymous said...

EDL is the NPL flight of EDP if it's still around. Can't use google because the info stinks.

The way it looks to me is that you had 12 clubs apply to US Club Soccer and EDP to be NPL Clubs. The clubs were accepted into NPL.

For this age group we have teams all over the place, top teams and so so teams. SO I think EDP put them into Divisions for their level of play and also gives them cross over games to satisfy the NPL requirement. Which is weird.

I would think You would put them in their NPL Flight and run a Fall/Spring season with Home/Away games to determine your champ or then have a playoff (which I hate) to represent your league.

But I think they do it both ways - let team play EDP which allows them to play their USYSA State Cups and the Cross over games makes the US CLub Soccer people happy best of both worlds I guess.

SO to answer your question a Division 2 teams doesn't even have to win their Division as long as they win their NPL games to win the NPL since last year some teams only played like 4/5 games.

AM I seeing this wrong?

Anonymous said...

US Club Soccer’s NPL partners with Surf Cup and Jefferson Cup

SO the Girls will have two showcase opportunities when they reach u15/16? Florida & California as of now? I wonder if this helps them get accepted to Surf Cup at the younger ages?

Anonymous said...

They still gave the below teams listed, we know Manhattan and NYSC bolted and Jersey United & NJ Stallions don't have a team unless they took one over. Is TSF know Valkries United? Below are the EDL or EDP NPL teams for this age and their GS National rank.

Looks like NJ Wildcats might have an easy run to the NPL finals


#22 NJ Wildcats (NJ)
#73 TSF Academy (NJ)
#141 Lehigh Valley United (PA)
#238 New Jersey Rush (NJ)
#259 FC Copa Academy (NJ)
#301 South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)
#537 Maryland Rush (MD)
#1662 Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)

Anonymous said...

That is the way they like it. But they will say it is the same level of competition as the other leagues...... Too funny.

Anonymous said...

So you're saying all wildcats need to do is best those other teams in EDL/NPL play and they are in the finals?

Anonymous said...

NYSCL NPL Flight and their GS National rankings.
This looks like BJ Crush and NYSC will battle with STA and ISA as dark horses. Can others surprise?

#32 NJ Crush FC NPL-01
#27 New York SC NPL-01
#65 STA NPL-01
#106 Intense SA NPL-01 (should be higher multiple GS accounts)
#120 Massapequa SC NPL-01
#163 Brentwood YSC NPL-01
#173 Manhattan SC NPL-01
#188 Quickstrike FC NPL-01
#2154 NY Rush NPL-01



So by just looking at our three NPLs - the favorites to win a TRIP to the NPL FINALS in 2015 in a place unknown yet are the below

EDL/EDP = NJ Wildcats
NYSCL = NJ Crush or NYSC
NE NPL = MF NPL or Ajax

Should be a fun time for me at least following NPL action until the Spring when we can add the Region 1 Premier/Colonial Leagues.

Anonymous said...

What about STA NPL?

Anonymous said...

STA are in EDP now.. aren't they?

Anonymous said...

Looks like they are in 2 leagues.. yikes.

Anonymous said...

Based on what I was able to find 4:23, YES it doesn't matter what place they are in their EDP flight unless you like GS points. ALL they need to do is simply put best the other NPL teams and they book a trip.

Again I don't know if other teams have been added, I'm guessing we will find out soon as September is around the corner.

But they seem to have an easy go TSF might surprise and LVU beat both NJ WIldcats, and PDA Ajax with a tie vs NJX at the same JAGS event (8v8). SO this team might actually be a dark horse, PA guy can break them down for us I'm sure.

Anonymous said...

STA is in NYCSL NPL and in EDP as their secondary league.

Remember just because you are playing EDP doesn't mean you are playing NPL. It looks like STA is doing it for more games and at the same time rack up some GS points in addition to their events. More games = more Soccer IQ. But this is against the 3:1 prctice/game ration the USSF likes the young ones playing

Anonymous said...

4:34 here again - i forgot one thing while more games if they have a large roster more opportunities for all their players to play and improve - so they can still be within the 3:1 ratio.

Anonymous said...

This is why making it to the finals does not mean the right teams are in the finals. Look at that division and compare it to the others. WAY more difficult to get out of the others as they are much deeper in talent. But that is why some choose to go play the better competition every week over trying to get through an easy division to say they got to the finals. We will see in a few years which path was more successful for the girls and their development.

Anonymous said...

4:31, you are looking at 3 years ago 8v8 to get a sense of what the team is now? Really? There may not be 3 girls still on the team from that period. Need to reign it in a bit.

Anonymous said...

How that EDP NPL division is even a part of the NPL blows my mind. Money grab I guess.....Like the MOSA days...... which is fine but please don't come on here saying that it is even in the same league as the others......

Anonymous said...

4:42 yeah and if they are the only team in town they might be stronger. Look that was the only games I was able to find besides them losing to NJ Crush 3-1 beating TSF 2-0 and Beating jackson 5-0 while tying JPS 0-0 at MAPS this past fall. All I was saying by listing those 8v8 results is that teams was able to hang back then, maybe they still can? I don't think that they can but I haven't seen them play besides results.

4:41 it's the right team for that league. and that's all that matters. By the way the teams don't control who's in their NPL but they do control the events and secondary leagues they play in - I know you are taking a dig - but I don't think you should.
So what if EDL isn't as strong it will still mean the world for those kids playing those teams and being a champion and advancing to a national Event well why are you trying to make it be less important than another?

I like the fact that FC Copa, TSF and every other team has a chance to play for a National event and as teams start to break apart a go away those players will be looking for a home, and why shouldn't these clubs be a destination for them?

Just keeping an open mind

Anonymous said...

@4:51, you're basing that entirely on this age group. Some of the weaker teams are from fairly strong clubs, not the least of which are FC Copa and SJEB. EDL is club based. If there are non NPL teams that stand out from a non NPL club, that's what Region 1 is for.

Anonymous said...

4:51 how can you say money grab with a straight face? You must not be familiar with the NPL concept, which is okay - I'm not going to say anything else because you are going to continue thinking the way you do and post the way you do.

But it is in the same league - the champion goes to the same event as the NYCSL NP & the NE NPL, they might just have an easier road and for that you hate?

Whatever.

Anonymous said...

The point is that EDL is so inferior in talent to the others. No problem with it. The problem is it should not be in the same league as the others. Kind of like winning a B bracket and playing an A bracket team in final. The A bracket team pounded against top talent every game to make it and the B bracket team plays half speed and makes it. Who then has an advantage??

Anonymous said...

5:35 you might be right for this age group and if that is the same across all other ages then there is nothing more I can say.

I'll use GS because it has a ranking system, not perfect but it tells you there are successful teams in the league. I only looked at the first 25 and if none went to the next 25.

All I'm saying is don't judge the League based on the u13 Age group. Give them time, there are some strong clubs in the league.

u14 National rankings
#5 SJEB '00G NPL
#10 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM
#12 FC COPA ACADEMY ROMA NPL

u15
#12 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC HOTSPUR
#18 FC COPA ACADEMY MILAN NPL
#20 NJ STALLIONS STAMPEDE
#22 SJEB '99G

U16
#35 FC COPA ACADEMY CELESTE NPL
#37 JERSEY UNITED SPARTANS 98/99G ASL

U17
#3 NJ STALLIONS DYNAMITE
#17 SJEB '97G

Anonymous said...

6:50 here.

We all know that age is coming when girls stop playing soccer. There will be some strong teams that will lose some top players to other sports, boys, trouble, etc. leaving other top players to either stay put of move and from the looks of it for the soccer players that want to continue playing they all seem to find these types of clubs.

Anonymous said...

3:33
Thats great if you have a team that is striving to be the best they can be and it is an honest competition and you are going to honestly attempt to select the top players. The starting XI that you say is a no brainer, should be a no brainer. This is Nj we are talking about and the most common words used in conjunction with Nj is nepotism, cronyism, corruption and political. Just saying

Anonymous said...

6:58 I think it goes beyond NJ in regards to what you are saying.

Anonymous said...

I have a question, do most top teams or so called academy teams carry more than one keeper? Two ways too look at it if they do or dont. If they carry 1 and are confident in their keeper, then that keeper gets 100% playing time. But what if a injury or sickness occurs? Then what, you throw your most athletic player in as a replacement. If you carry two keepers then you are only going to get 50 percent playing time, but you will create a competitive atmosphere and push each keeper. Just wondering?

Anonymous said...

I think most teams carry one keeper, mostly because it is a position that is hard to fill. We have one dedicated keeper who is pretty good, but wants to improve, and basically I consider her very precious, because of the lack of interest. Ideally, we should have 2 keepers, with one playing 60% of the game, and the other subbing-in more often when we have a 3 goal lead.

But what do I know, I am just a stupid parent.

Anonymous said...

keepers are an unusual breed lets be honest, like a catcher in baseball, qb in football, far and in between are really that good. to be a real good keeper you have to have zero fear, no fear at all. you have to slide tackle without football padding, no padding really. hence a keeper can definitely get injured more. look at a high level keeper, their legs have cleat lines in them, yes cleats scraping the leg like a knife up and down. most keepers have bruises, blood and scars. carrying one keeper is not ideal, the pinny keeper is never a sub for a real, trained no fear keeper. remember we just saw Germany win World Cup with the "sweeper keeper" if that does not say it all about the high value of a keeper.

Anonymous said...

look at the high level matches, 2-1 1-0 1-1 3-2
and then, how many shoot outs have you been involved in, we had 2 this past spring where our keeper won the tournament for us by making more saves than the other keeper. so a keeper standing alone in that net after playing two grueling days, heat, cold, wind rain. and the world is on her shoulders. at that time you say to yourself, damn I wish I had a great keeper, by then it is too late and 99% of high level know this, dont just put the "fat" girl in there, that is a big mistake.

Anonymous said...

While its true that having a good keeper is very important to the overall success of your team, a solid defense is more important. Let’s face it, at u13 there are not too many that will stick their pretty little faces at some strikers foot, nor should they. A good defense will keep the other team at 3-7 shots per game, mostly top of the box. We are lucky to have a girl who wants to play, and as a former keeper, I hold them all with high regard.

Good luck #1, wherever you are!

Anonymous said...

Any word on the FC Stars Cup schedule??

Anonymous said...

Some time today........

not yet up

Anonymous said...

Need girls who can boot it. Then you don't need a keeper.

Anonymous said...

sweeper keeper won world cup, amazing. "Then you don't need a keeper." lol lets get rid of lacrosse keepers, ice hockey, and while at it get rid of catchers.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of shootouts, what if you have a keeper who dives 2 seconds after the ball hits the back of the net. Should that keeper be on a top team or does that team need to be lookiƱg for a second keeper or a new #1?

Anonymous said...

Really, you’re getting on a 12 year old, please.

You are lucky you have a girl that volunteers.

Anonymous said...

Our goalie in a recent tournament shootout dove exactly 1.67 seconds after the ball hit the back of the net. I was keeping track, she is better than your goalie 2:19.

Anonymous said...

VOLUNTEERS??????

Anonymous said...

And who volunteers to bring the drinks and snacks as well?

Anonymous said...

Yes, most girls volunteer to play GK, do you guys do it differently, is it a birth-right?

Anonymous said...

I give up, so who volunteers to bring snacks?

I am curious, might want to join the team if the snacks are yummy enough.

Anonymous said...

our team has the best snacks and the moms all wear yoga pants.

Anonymous said...

Thank you yoga pants guy, I remember your post from last season. Btw: not all Mom's can wear them properly, if you get my drift.

Anonymous said...

lol soccer moms are cute, and they share our same passion, I am sure their are very few ladies on this blog, just us old tired crazy men. or I may be mistaken

Anonymous said...

are you kidding.. the crazy ones are the moms.

Anonymous said...

11:05,11:07,11;29

Thank you

-The parent of an aggressive keeper :)

Anonymous said...

Stars schedule is up

Anonymous said...

has new Rutgers head coach stepped down as DOC of PDA Girls side?

Anonymous said...

I would think so after seeing NCAA rules that were posted on this site last week. Did anyone forward that info on NCAA 50 mile rule from Rutgers to enforcement arm or Big Ten conference or NCAA?

Anonymous said...

Yes, forwarded to Big Ten.
Also should be forwarded to US Club Soccer administration.
Anyone have the correct person who would be in charge of enforcement of rules? Who is that person at Rutgers? The Ad or the new
Assistant AD.

Anonymous said...

What is the NCAA 50 mile rule?

Anonymous said...

Oh no the anti-PDA, 50 mile rule guy is back. This can't be good for the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Here is the 50 mile rule from the NCAA website:


Institution's Coach Observing Prospective Student-Athletes While Acting in Capacity for Local Sports Club (I)

Date Published: November 7, 2012
Item Ref: 1
Educational Column:

Editor's Note: This column was updated June 20, 2013, to add additional questions to assist with membership clarification.

NCAA Division I institutions should note, pursuant to the local sports club legislation, in sports other than basketball, an institution's coach may be involved in any capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in instructional or coaching activities) in the same sport for a local sports club or organization located in the institution's home community, provided all prospective student-athletes participating in said activities are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution).

Very Clear.

Anonymous said...

Why is asking everyone to follow the rules and have a level playing field for all anti anything?
Again comes back to PDA arrogance that the rules do not apply to them so they can continue to flout them.
Amazing how they cannot just do the right thing and make the necessary adjustments on their own.
I guess the only way they will stop cheating is to get sanctioned,.

Anonymous said...

50 mile guy - these kids are in middle school come back in a few years;

"The NCAA recommends that student-athletes register at the beginning of their junior year in high school, but many students register after their junior year. There is no registration deadline, but students must be cleared by the Eligibility Center before they receive athletic scholarships or compete at a Division I or II institution."

SO I guess once a player registers they become a prospective student athlete - come on many if your are going to post the 50 mile rule - post the definition of prospective student athlete. Why don't you play by the rules instead of posting only what feeds your point of view.

Like I said scram and come back in a few years with that 50 mile rule or jump on a different board this is for u13 players.

Anonymous said...

The rule applies to all high school age athletes that is true.
but the point being made is the U15-U18 girls tams at pda have had players who ,lived beyond the 50 miles allowed from rutgers playing on teams at those ages that were coached and trained by pda coaches who at the same time were on the rutgers coaching staff.
this has gone on for the last 14 years and continues to this day.
the only way this conflict of interest will stop is if the other clubs being affected by the unbalalnced playing field this causes start to complain about the continued cheating.
letters written to the Big Ten and NCAA as well as the administration of US Club Soccer would be a good start.
you should include a verbatim copy of the NCAA rule as shown above and note the fact that players from beyond the 50 miles from Rutgers continue to be rostered to these pda teams and coached and trained by current members of the Rutgers coaching staff.
Oherwise PDA is not going to comply and give up a competitive advantage.
Note how PDA fought tough and nail for years to keep MatchFit out of ECNL until it was forced down their throats.

Anonymous said...

So, anybody think we are going to win Stars of Mass. Blue flight?

Anybody giving us a chance?

Anonymous said...

Who NYSC? maybe, wouldn't be my first pick.

Anonymous said...

Blue A
1. East Meadow
2. NEFC
3. FC Stars
4. Crush

Blue B
1. Breakers
2. South Shore
3. Ajax
4. NYSC

Both brackets will be tight/close. Could be a surprise or two in either bracket

Anonymous said...

That right baby, woohoo!!!!

Anonymous said...

Rage and Ajax got flights swapped at Spirit.

Anonymous said...

2;35 IF YOUR DAUGHTER PLAYS FOR THE BREAKERS FC STARS OR EAST MEADOW YOU HAVE A SHOT IF NOT SPEND THE NIGHT IN BOSTON AND ENJOY THE CITY. MAKE THE TRIP WORTH IT.

Anonymous said...

Any team can win that flight, and last time I checked all the teams have u13 players, so unless you know the fix is in, spare us your expert opinion.

P.S. No one takes all caps. seriously.

Anonymous said...

Go Crush!

Anonymous said...

4:47 based on u12 results I don't argue, they seem safe.

10,000 GS points - 20% for the taking.

PS. What's up with MF playing up all the time? Do they have to because they have u14 players on roster or are they pulling what PDA Storm did two years ago playing against older kids.

6:07 Thanks, I'm curious now and will check.

Anonymous said...

Bracket A
1. CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
2. UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)
3. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
Bracket B
1. GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)FC 2. STARS OF MASS NORTH UNITED (MA)
3. 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)
Bracket C
1. PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
2. PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
3. PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
Bracket D
1. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
2. PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
3. CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)

Anonymous said...

Rage didn't swap with Ajax. They actually got moved all the way down to the bottom flight. Which is likely where they should start given the major fallout. It's hard to assess what they'll look like when the majority of the roster has been turned over, and not for the better.

Anonymous said...

That bottom flight just got a serious boost in available points.

Anonymous said...

50 mile Dbag, make sure you cc Obama on that one. Don't sleep on Ajax, and what about the 8 mile rule?

Anonymous said...

Where's Gs guy with points calculations for Spirit and Stars?

Anonymous said...

I thought I did that already - top flights carry max points 10,000 less 20% no doubt.

The big winner as some one pointed out was the bottom flight of spirit - those teams will get max points since their 20% isn't very much and Rage is bringing 10,000 points divided by 5 to the party. So the winner of Spirit's bottom flight will get approx 2,000 points.

What flight do you want? I'll do it.

Anonymous said...

NJX got Match Fleeced. Question is do parents fall for their BS next year?

Anonymous said...

10:31
What is Match Fleece?
Please explain.

Anonymous said...

So you are saying a team with low points in second flight at Spirit or Stars can get more points than a top flight winner?

Anonymous said...

No, the top flight teams have 20,000 points on avg so 20% of that is approx 4,000 pts. Subtract that from a max flight value of 10,000 the top flight winners will get approx 6,000 pts.

The second flight didn't look to strong when it comes to GS points. I'll break it down later.

Anonymous said...

When does edp schedule come out?

Anonymous said...

Some projected GS flights.

Spirit top flight 10,000 pts
FC Stars top flight 10,000 pts

FC Stars 2nd flight 9,500 pts
Spirit 2nd flight 7,000 pts

On the flip side a local tournament
STA top flight without MF pre Ecnl = 6,750
STA top flight with MF pre-ECNL = 8,000

This goes to show while GS i a nice tool to many variables beyond anyones control.

To guess at the amount of points your team will earn take 20% of their point value. I will use Boston breakers as my example they have 28,390 so 20% is approx 5,600 points. For them to earn points from a flight the flight needs to have a value greater than 5,600 pts, so if they win FC STars they earn 4,400 pts.

On the flip side if A2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK wins the 2nd flight they will get the following 9,500 less 20% of 905 = 180 pts so they would earn 9,220 pts moving them up the charts. This is how a good team that doesn't play in a bunch of GS events can get their points. Nothing wrong with this.

So to answer your question with Facts, can a team in the 2nd flight get more pts than a team in the first flight if both win their flight. YES, but it depends on who the teams are.

Anonymous said...

PS. not only does my grammar stink but so does my math.

Anonymous said...


So the U-17’s don’t even qualify for the world championships, and the U-20-s have a very poor showing at the World Cup, and the ECNL is the answer. Quite to the contrary, if the ECNL is the way to go then there are not enough ECNL teams to ensure we have a larger player pool at early ages. Kids are rushing to get to ECNL clubs earlier and earlier. With about 7,000 kids in NJ playing soccer at every age group, it is absurd that by age 14 we only have spots for less than 1% of those kids at the ECNL level. This cannot be good for US Soccer, and while people are saying this is what’s needed for women’s soccer, all of the evidence indicates otherwise. With the ECNL at age 5, the U-17 national team which would have had a full crop of kids coming through the ECNL the team has performed poorly, and the U-20 team’s performance speaks for itself and these girls would have spent a lot of time in the ECNL.

If the ECNL is the future then there needs to be more ECNL clubs. PDA fought very hard to try to keep Match Fit out of NJ, and they will fight to have any more ECNL Clubs in NJ. OK so we have a monopoly being developed for Elite soccer, but should we have clubs trying to monopolize whole states. California has 4X the population of NJ yet 7.5X the number of ECNL clubs, so we can expect NJ to be underrepresented at the National level in the future because we are funneling fewer kids.

Watching the USWNT U-20’s and hearing about the U-17s, I hope there are some serious rethinks about the current model of development, what I saw was a lot of individual play, players trying to dribble through a whole defense, players collapsing under pressure, poor play off the ball. OK, so soccer is a middle-upper class sport, we get that, but I think when we do that and we select kids from a couple of tryouts, we pick the kids who are bigger, faster, and stronger and we will develop the kids later. It was clear watching 3 of the USWNT U-20s that it is a team of bigger, faster, strongers, but not a lot of tactical.

We are seeing the future of Women’s soccer right in front of us and it ain’t great. Perhaps why our current USWNT is made up of a bunch of 25 year old + women who came through the process when the player pool was larger for a longer period of time.

August 17, 2014 at 1:16 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
1:16 is spot on IMO!
The leadership of PDA on the girls side helped set up ECNL for this very reason(monopoly) and the sooner everyone recognizes they have only the best interests of PDA(money and exposure of their club on a national level)the better for our girls.
Their are MANY more NJ based players going D1 each year than can fit on the rosters of the 2 NJ ECNL Teams.Clearly NJ could field 4 or 5 teams that would be competitive in the ECNL, just look at the often one sided scores in ECNL events.It's all about money and the selfish interests of these few Academies as opposed to what is bet for the young players.
the first step is recognition of what they are doing and it is nice to see a few posters starting to "get it".

August 17, 2014 at 2:13 PM

Anonymous said...

I think FC Crush should get an ECNL franchise.

Anonymous said...

Wait a second. re you telling me that ECNL (5 year old league) and PDA is to blame for the u17WNT and u20WNT failures?

The problem is that you have kids at u10, u11 learning to play soccer from baseball, football and basketball coaches. ECNL and NPL have made no secret about how the leagues work. They took clubs from a region and let the soccer minds try to figure out what's best for our girls as a soccer nation. If you talk about any sport it will cost money the higher up the food chain you go, it's that simple, that's not a soccer problem that an opportunity for all the sharks to make money on the people talking college and D1 scholarships.

Do not confuse WNT with programs getting kids to D1. The reason we have 25+ players on the NT and have lost generations of players is not the ECNL or US Club soccer they are actually trying something different. Follow the money - who has the most to lose with the ECNL having success is it PDA? or is it ODP? The same selectors that have been picking Regional pool of girls based on size and athletics is to blame no one else to point a finger at. The Boys fixed that with the DA system The girls don't generate enough money but maybe with the ECNL becoming more popular just maybe. But now that the rest of the world ha been playing soccer and size and athletic ability doesn't work anymore at the international stage the ECNL is to blame. Come on man, open your eyes, if you want to have this talk lets have it.

Last time I checked the ECNL is not the player pool for the NTs, ODP controls that player pool, but not as much. The NTs had a coach that wanted to play some youth, we know how that story ended, we did bad in Sweden so he lost his job so we can go back to what has worked for so long right? Guess what it's not working anymore and no way is the ECNL to blame for that. Follow the money, the ECNL has only been around 5 years, nice try.

Anonymous said...

The NPL was created to elevate and change the competitive youth soccer landscape by extending developmental principles espoused by U.S. Soccer into more age groups and clubs, by linking competition with player development and identification platforms, and by providing meaningful weekly competition culminating in the NPL Finals.

that is designed and structured by the clubs, based on the needs of the clubs.

From the NPL website no secret - just trying to change and old system and the people making money are getting upset because they might not make as much money.

Anonymous said...

From the ECNL page no secrets here either (remember 5 years, they haven't been around longer)

MISSION: The Elite Clubs National League, Inc. (“ECNL”) founded in 2009 to enhance the developmental experience of the female youth soccer players in the United States through:

Improving the competitive environment through creation of a true national competitive league with multiple flights;
Improving the process for identifying elite female soccer players for the U.S. Soccer youth national teams through a systematic scouting and identification program based on national competitions; and
Improving the daily training environment at top female youth soccer clubs through developing best practices and training and organizational guidelines for its member clubs.
GOAL: The goal of the Elite Clubs National League is to change the landscape for elite female soccer players in the United States through innovative, player-centered programming and to enhance the overall experience by creating a better, more enjoyable, and more successful player, coach, and club development model.

Anonymous said...


There doesn't need to be an league like ECNL that while it may include the strongest clubs as far as their top to bottom strength it doesn't necessarily have the best teams in each age group and showcase all the top players.
How about the best teams in each age group make the top flights in the biggest events.
That would showcase the best players and individual teams and open up more possibilities for players who are the farthest from an ECNL club to be showcased without driving so far to train. Of course this would take the monopoly from those current ECNL clubs and make for an even playing field and we couldn't have that could we?

Anonymous said...

Just like there doesn't need to be ODP. ODP is a failure. ECNL is ODP just like DA on boys side.
A league with Clubs for the top players to train against each other and make themselves better which will make our NT better. Could careless about your teams this is all about our NT.

PS. The monopoly isn't ECNL it's all these tournaments that charge $1,000 per team x 300 teams for 3 days of soccer and this is what you want to support, really $300,000 to run a weekend tournament yup non-profit? You win I lose.

Anonymous said...

Wow - tough draw for NYSC at WAGS
Crew Juniors and Tophat

Anonymous said...

PWSI is no cake walk either. C is toughest bracket by far.

But I'm not sure these are the final flights. It would be unusual to have two VA teams in the B bracket and none in the A.

Anonymous said...

Can you please post top bracket for WAGS U13 girls.
It is not yet up on their website.
What is the link?

Anonymous said...

WAGS Championship Bracket

1
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE (PAW)

2
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
MARYLAND UNITED FC U13 ECNL (MD)

3
TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)
NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)

Who was saying this was a weak tournament? Looks pretty good to me. Who are the weak teams? Harford and PA Crew?

Anonymous said...

ADMIN Delete posts, close to the 5000 mark!

Anonymous said...

We play, therefore we are, we are, therefore we play.

Anonymous said...

How would you rank the top brackets of the 3 tournaments: Spirit, Stars of Mass, WAGS?

Anonymous said...

Why is 2:13 busting on ECNL? Is it because your kid is not with PDA, MF, Penn Fusion, FC Bucks or FC Continental?

Who cares? If your Mia is good enough one of the NT's will find her. Just make sure you are taking her to the places for her to be found.

I'm assuming if your kid is non-ECNL but does make a NT you will be here bragging forEVER about how your kid didn't need ECNL.

Here's hoping you are right.

Anonymous said...

Why only 3 brackets in the top flight? They didn't think 4 other teams were top flight material?

1. FC Stars
2. WAGS
3. Spirit

Anonymous said...

If anyone uses GS - please note since they input manual results and sometimes they don't know which team is which for a club the rankings are off.

If anyone knows the ISA manager give them a heads up.

National Ranking Points
7542 = ISA 01 NPL
4452 = INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMY NPL-01 BLUE
978 =ISA HOT SHOTS '01 NPL

12,972 - that should be good for

#48 Nationally.
#22 Region 1
#5 New York East.

No that it matters, but it might help hem get into a higher flight.

Anonymous said...

WAGS top flight clearly the strongest and deepest of the 3 tournaments.

Anonymous said...


4:02 - Here is a question about where all the money is going. Since PDA and some other academies are categorized as non-profits are the club administrations individual salaries accessible as public record.
I'm sure that would give you a good handle on where your dues money is going.

Anonymous said...

Where are you finding brackets for WAGS? On the website all I see is accepted teams, which are listed without brackets.

Anonymous said...

ISA

One is Brazil and one is Hot Shots

One played NPL White Division U12, the other Blue

If you look at 11/15 event they were in different brackets

Anonymous said...

There is a way to manipulate the URL to get GotSoccer flights a couple days early. However, whenever someone posts the URL, the flights tend to get removed from the webpage by GotSoccer. Best to just copy and paste the flights. As you can see, the flights have changed a lot since the last posting.

WAGS
Cup Flight
1
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)

2
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)
TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)

3
TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)
NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)


A Flight
1
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)
CENTURY V UNITED 01-02 SOUTH GIRLS ELITE (PAW)
FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01 (VA)

2
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)
CLEVELAND FC ROYAL (ON)
STING 02G BROWN (TXN)

3
PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE (PAW)
MARYLAND UNITED FC U13 ECNL (MD)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)

4
VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)
VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER VYS PRIDE '01 RED (VA)
RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)


B Flight
1
MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (NYE)
BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)
MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)
CUSA CREW JUNIORS 01 GOLD (OS)

2
CAPITAL UNITED BLUE FORCE (NYE)
PREMIER ANGELS (MD)
BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)
OP FIRE RED (ON)

3
ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE (NYE)
CASL 01 CASL RED LADIES (NC)
MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE (MD)
WARRINGTON FC BOMBERS (PAE)

4
MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER MSVG 01G BLUE (FL)
CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)
KINGS HAMMER ACADEMY KHA RED (KY)
HBC BARRACUDAS (NYE)


C Flight
1
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED (VA)
PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
PINECREST PREMIER 01/02- G BLUE (FL)
GREENSBORO UNITED GUSA 01 NAVY G (NC)

2
MARYLAND RUSH MONTGOMERY WARRIORS 01 (MD)
DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 (DE)
SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUD01G BLACK (VA)

3
VSA HEAT BLUE (VA)
HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)
CDSA GLORY ELITE (DE)
TCSC REVOLUTION (WV)

4
HBC SPARK (NYE)
RICHMOND KICKERS YSC U12 G ELITE (VA)
FC EUROPA FCE FORCE (PAE)
EXPRESS FC (OS)


D Flight
1
BEADLING SC BEADLING WHITE (PAW)
FREEDOM FSC PREMIER RED 02 (MD)
VINCENT UNITED F.C. VENGEANCE (PAE)
FREDERICKSBURG AREA SA FASA IMPACT ELITE '01 (VA)

2
GUNSTON GSC ELITE 01 (VA)
STER FC ORANGE '01 (VA)
STING CENTRAL 02G (PARKER) (TXN)
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 WHITE (MD)

3
CSC SURGE (VA)
MRM RUSH NERO '01G (AKA RAGE) (MD)
CYA COUGARS 01 (VA)
HFC READY '01 (PAE)

Anonymous said...

For WAGS top flight, guess it will be bracket winners, plus best overall to round-out a playoff?

Anonymous said...

Yes. Just like Delco.

Anonymous said...

U13 team beat enough u14 teams to win u14 tournament which included brick and crush. Now that's Gotta make the u14's a bit upset

Anonymous said...

Too many games, too many tournaments, too much emphasis on stupid GS points. These are the reasons we have a problem right now on the girls side. We just got whipped by North Korea. Their players were far more technical. We didn't string together three or more passes more than a handful of times all night.

Anonymous said...

GotSoccer isn't perfect, but I can't see how one can say that Stars of Mass is a tougher tournament than WAGS. Unless of course we are all in agreement that MA has the best players around (four teams in top flight are from MA).

WAGS
Cup Flight
1
PAE#1 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
VA#2 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
OS#2 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
TN#1 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)

2
NJ#4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
VA#1 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
IL#1 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)
OS#3 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)

3
GA#1 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)
NYE#2 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
VA#3 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
MD#2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)


Stars of Mass
MA#4 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL
NJ#5 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI
NYE#1 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
MA#2 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS

MA#1 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL
NJ#3 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
NYE#2 NEW YORK SC G01
MA#3 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE

Anonymous said...

And here's Spirit:

A
OS#2 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
MD#2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
PAE#7 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)

B
MA#5 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)
NYW#1 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
PAE#2 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)

C
PAE#1 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
NJ#3 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
MD#4 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)

D
MD#1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
NJ#4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
PAE#4 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)

Anonymous said...

EDP

9/14/2014

Girls U13 1st Division North

Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1913 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 SABA BROOKLYN CITY Unassigned
#1914 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY HBC SPARK Unassigned
#1916 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE Unassigned
#1915 12:00 PM SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 TBD TBD
9/21/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1917 HBC SPARK TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
#1918 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE Unassigned
#1919 ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY Unassigned
#1920 SABA BROOKLYN CITY SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT Unassigned
9/28/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1921 HBC SPARK ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE Unassigned
#1922 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 Unassigned
#1923 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE SABA BROOKLYN CITY Unassigned
#1924 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT Unassigned
10/5/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1925 SABA BROOKLYN CITY FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY Unassigned
#1926 ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT Unassigned
#1927 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE Unassigned
#1928 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 HBC SPARK Unassigned
10/19/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1929 SABA BROOKLYN CITY RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 Unassigned
#1930 ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
#1931 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE HBC SPARK Unassigned
#1932 12:00 PM SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY TBD TBD
10/26/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1934 HBC SPARK SABA BROOKLYN CITY Unassigned
#1935 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
#1936 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE Unassigned
#1933 12:00 PM SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE TBD TBD
11/2/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1937 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
#1938 SABA BROOKLYN CITY ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE Unassigned
#1939 HBC SPARK SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT Unassigned
#1940 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY Unassigned

Anonymous said...

Girls U13 1st Division Central

1353 Jersey Premier Flash NJSA 04 GALAXY Unassigned
9/14/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1354
CJYSA LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER Unassigned
1355
CJYSA PIPELINE SC BLACK NJ WILDCATS Unassigned
1356 NJCSA ELITE MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
1357 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Unassigned
1364 Jersey Premier Flash CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Unassigned
9/20/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1360
CJYSA STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 Jersey Premier Flash Unassigned
1361
CJYSA NJ WILDCATS LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS Unassigned
1362 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER NJSA 04 GALAXY Unassigned
9/21/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1359 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE NJCSA ELITE Unassigned
1358
CJYSA 1:00 PM MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK PIPELINE SC BLACK Morris Catholic HS 1
9/27/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1365 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS NJSA 04 GALAXY Unassigned
9/28/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1366 NJCSA ELITE NJ WILDCATS Unassigned
1367
CJYSA PIPELINE SC BLACK HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER Unassigned
10/5/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1368
CJYSA Jersey Premier Flash HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER Unassigned
1369 NJ WILDCATS NJSA 04 GALAXY Unassigned
1371 PIPELINE SC BLACK CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Unassigned
1372 NJCSA ELITE STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 Unassigned
1370
CJYSA 11:00 AM MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS Morris Catholic HS 1
10/18/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1363
CJYSA STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
10/19/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1373
CJYSA STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 PIPELINE SC BLACK Unassigned
1374 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS Unassigned
1376
CJYSA HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER NJ WILDCATS Unassigned
1377 NJCSA ELITE Jersey Premier Flash Unassigned
10/25/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1379
CJYSA LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 Unassigned
1382
CJYSA 2:00 PM MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER Morris Catholic HS 1
10/26/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1378 NJSA 04 GALAXY CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Unassigned
1380 PIPELINE SC BLACK NJCSA ELITE Unassigned
1381
CJYSA Jersey Premier Flash NJ WILDCATS Unassigned
1396 1:00 PM MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Morris Catholic HS 1
11/1/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1387 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 NJSA 04 GALAXY Unassigned
11/2/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1383 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER Unassigned
1384
CJYSA NJ WILDCATS MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
1385
CJYSA PIPELINE SC BLACK Jersey Premier Flash Unassigned
1386 NJCSA ELITE LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS Unassigned
11/8/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1388 NJSA 04 GALAXY NJCSA ELITE Unassigned
1389
CJYSA Jersey Premier Flash MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
1390 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE NJ WILDCATS Unassigned
1391
CJYSA HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 Unassigned
1392
CJYSA LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS PIPELINE SC BLACK Unassigned
11/9/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1394 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER NJCSA ELITE Unassigned
1395 NJSA 04 GALAXY PIPELINE SC BLACK Unassigned
1397
CJYSA LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS Jersey Premier Flash Unassigned
11/16/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
1375 NJSA 04 GALAXY MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
1393
CJYSA NJ WILDCATS STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 Unassigned

Anonymous said...

10/4/2014

Girls U13 Crossover Games

Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1868
CJYSA INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
10/5/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1887 SMITHTOWN STARS ALLEYCATS PREMIER Unassigned
10/18/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#2214 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH Unassigned
#2215 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE Unassigned
#2216 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH BLUE SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 Unassigned
#2217
Champions League MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
#2218
Champions League NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH Unassigned
#2219
Champions League CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Unassigned
#2220 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
#2222
Champions League PIPELINE SC BLACK Unassigned
10/25/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1864
CJYSA NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI TSF ACADEMY 01/02 Unassigned
10/26/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1874
CJYSA INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI Unassigned
#1884 ALLEYCATS PREMIER HBC SPARK Unassigned
#2119 ESSC/HENLOPEN WHITECAPS MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G Unassigned
#2123
CJYSA WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE Unassigned
#2124
CJYSA STARZ01 SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS Unassigned
11/1/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1870
CJYSA NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI SDFC SAMBA Unassigned
#1881 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY FSC FOUNDATION SC Unassigned
#1882 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE LAGRANGE RAGE Unassigned
#1883 SABA BROOKLYN CITY SMITHTOWN STARS Unassigned
#1885 ALLEYCATS PREMIER RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 Unassigned
#2117
CJYSA TSF ACADEMY 01/02 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA Unassigned
11/2/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#2122
CJYSA SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE Unassigned
#2125
CJYSA STARZ01 WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER Unassigned
11/8/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1888 FSC FOUNDATION SC ALLEYCATS PREMIER Unassigned
11/9/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#1866
CJYSA TSF ACADEMY 01/02 SDFC SAMBA Unassigned
#2118
CJYSA FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI Unassigned
#2120
CJYSA NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE STARZ01 Unassigned
#2121
CJYSA WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS Unassigned
11/15/2014
Game Time Home Team Away Team Location
#2221 PISCATAWAY JAGUARS FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY Unassigned
#2223 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 Unassigned
#2224 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH BLUE Unassigned
#2225 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE SDFC SAMBA Unassigned
#2226
Champions League MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Unassigned
#2227
Champions League NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH Unassigned
#2228
Champions League CES CALVERT CREW WHITE Unassigned
#2229
Champions League PIPELINE SC BLACK Unassigned

Anonymous said...

Looks like Champions League games are going to be during the regular season.

Anonymous said...

1 -WAGS
2 - Spirit
3 - Stars

Anonymous said...

good stuff all, @453 agree would be my order also

Anonymous said...

Where did you get edp schedule from?

Anonymous said...

Where did you get edp schedule from?

Anonymous said...

WAGS is the best. And then whether you like Spirit or Stars better largely depends on whether you like PAE or MA teams better.

Boston and Penn Fusion have recently played to a 1-1 tie. Any other PAE vs. MA results out there?

Anonymous said...

5:06 regarding EDP schedule like the other guy posted earlier, it's not "official" or on a public link yet so I am not going to post the link.

I would assume it will be posted for real on the EDP site in a few days.


Anonymous said...

I'm surprised the below didn't get more attention here. Maybe it did & I missed it. What say all of you? Coaches?


"Chastain and two of her teammates on that 1999 team, Cindy Parlow Cone and Joy Fawcett, have stepped onto a soapbox in the middle of this World Cup. They are trying to get the word out to parents, coaches and governing bodies that players shouldn’t head the ball the until they are in high school, in order to limit the possibility of brain injuries in younger children. In soccer, heading is the leading cause of serious injuries, like concussions.

Those women have teamed up with the Sports Legacy Institute and the Santa Clara Institute of Sports Law and Ethics for a campaign called Parents and Pros for Safer Soccer, which on Wednesday morning will announce guidelines calling for the elimination of heading the ball by players younger than 14."

Anonymous said...

I tell my daughter not to head a ball under any circumstance during crosses or any ball hit with pace in the air. Ok to head a ball when it is lobbed in air just make sure arms are out to keep others out of your space.

Anonymous said...

I support that completely. I told my daughter, no heading unless it hits the ground first or is a soft lob (i.e. bouncing off someone, etc.). NO need at this age to be heading the ball...period.

Anonymous said...

I would support that. The two concussions I've witnessed in our age group have occurred when the ball struck the top of the head, not from proper headers.

Anonymous said...

Heading off of a punt is dangerous, especially if they don't do it correctly, I tell my kid to use your foot to deaden the ball, works just as well, but its a very hard technique to master, most girls just lose the ball attempting the maneuver, but lets be realistic here.

If your daughter aspires to be one of the best players, she needs to not be afraid of the ball, and yes that includes being willing to head the ball, its just part of premier soccer, like shooting with both feet, making hard sharp ground passes, and not being afraid to go to the body to win a ball.

Anonymous said...

Yes but High school seems to be the best time to master your heading technique.

A lot of trainers don't spend too much time teaching heading at this age.

Anonymous said...

Trainers should spend more time with neck strengthening.

Anonymous said...

I'll bet you have a strong neck...

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

Good Lord folks - get out of the gutter

Anonymous said...

Chastain and company could never play for kitties. Their coach is oblivious to this issue. They try to head everything from sky high punts to fluttering balls that should be brought down and controlled. Another example of old school being old fool.

Anonymous said...

back to soccer - get off the blog with these childish comments. great tournaments coming up for all. with middle school soccer and team play will be busy for all our girls.

Anonymous said...

My daughter also plays the flute & sings alto in the school chorus so she will be even busier!

Anonymous said...

2:09, you know her soccer is suffering because of all the music crap, better get to kicking, stat,

Anonymous said...



Middle school soccer seriously?

Go home and do your schoolwork and then get ready for your club practice.

Anonymous said...

8:24 while I agree with you, both of us need to check ourselves. My daughter loves it when her classmates come out and cheer for her and her team in what ever they are doing.

We know what's good for them when it comes to soccer but they know what's good for themselves when it comes to happiness and if they want middle school soccer then we support - don't we? I mean thy are playing for themselves and not for us right?

Anonymous said...

If your daughter plays high level club soccer, Middle School soccer is a mistake. If your kid needs to dominate playing against inferior competition then I guess she is in the right place.

There are other things they could do to participate in school activities. Alternate sports, music, chorus, plays, etc.

Anonymous said...

9:29 I agree with you that's what we would do.

But what if they want to play in front of their friends and classmates? So what if they dominate?

What if THEY want to play no what YOU or I want for them? Is that such a wrong thing?

Anonymous said...

824 and 929 is bitter as you can plainly see. Look back in my own history and other professionals, OF COURSE they all played in school. They played in school as you say to be together, have fun, train everyday for free and do something besides eat potato chips and watch tv after school. 6th graders playing on A team with 8th graders is a great place for that 6th grader if they can do it, mine can, she thoroughly enjoyed it, learned much and played two years up with 8th graders. it is a very good thing to play for your home town school, very good!

Anonymous said...

My kids middle school team would beat any u13 team in nj,do your homework,,,,

Anonymous said...

what middle school?

Anonymous said...

what middle school?

Anonymous said...

Let's set it up

Anonymous said...

There will not be a response to "what Middle School?" because it doesn't exist. Middle School soccer is so poor it hurts to watch...which I did last year.

"Playing up" as one post said, doesn't mean a thing if you are really playing down. Have at it and enjoy! It will just be a process to forget the bad habits formed. It's called schoolyard ball for a reason.

Anonymous said...

11:47 I am defending the quality of soccer. But isn't one of the biggest complaints about soccer in the states that we don't have pick up games? Do you expect these pick up games to be high quality if kids are playing with their friends? or do you think high quality players will choose not play with their friends on the corner because they are not at the level?

Even though I might be coming across as a rambling idiot (which I am). I don't care about the quality of soccer being played as long as she is playing for the love of the game. It's her coaches job to keep her focused when she plays for her club.

Anonymous said...

11:59 here - typo alert - Not defending - I typed defending. As I said I am a rambling idiot.

Anonymous said...

Predictions for Spirit? Schedule posted yet?

Anonymous said...

Here's my prediction 1219 for this weekend - you will be home watching your daughter play that flute & practice singing alto while I will be in PA watching my daughter & her team compete in a very high level soccer tournament, first of the new season with bunch of new players on board.

Anonymous said...



My 6th grader was good enough to play up with 8th graders on school team

That is classic blog



Anonymous said...

Spirit tourney is for chumps, and the women's hi constantly undermine them, enjoy the hotel pool...

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Anonymous said...

Spirit is not the top tournament in the country, but it is pretty respectable with: 5 / top 25 in the country (Bing, Ajax, Calvert, Penn Fusion, WC) and 15 / top 100. Better than most. Can't claim to be the top tournament, but can't knock it either. If you win it, you deserve some props.

Anonymous said...

Turns out, putting down tournaments simply because your daughter is not playing in them is for chumps.

And please don't tell me how to spend my money or my time.

Thanks.


A
OS#2 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
MD#2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
PAE#7 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)

B
MA#5 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)
NYW#1 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
PAE#2 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)

C
PAE#1 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
NJ#3 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
MD#4 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)

D
MD#1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
NJ#4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
PAE#4 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)

A Crew Juniors
B Greater Binghamton
C Ajax
D Penn Legacy

Bing over Crew Jrs
Ajax over PL

Ajax over Bing in finals

Anonymous said...


FC STARS Tourney is loaded

not in it or Spirit

I have to say they need to put NJX/MF in top bracket and move Crush in their slot

Anonymous said...

Both tourneys are loaded. Better NJ teams in Spirit. OS/NYW teams from Spirit are a push with the NYE teams from Stars. MA teams from Stars have an edge over MA/MD teams from Spirit. And then Spirit also has the best PAE teams.

Reasonable minds may differ on which tourney has a slight edge over the other, but to say one is loaded and the other is for chumps is just dumb.

And WAGS looks better than either of them.

STARS
NJ#3 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
NJ#5 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI

NYE#1 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
NYE#2 NEW YORK SC G01

MA#1 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL
MA#2 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
MA#3 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE
MA#4 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL



SPIRIT
OS#2 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)

NYW#1 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)

PAE#1 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
PAE#2 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)
PAE#4 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
PAE#7 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)

NJ#3 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
NJ#4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ

MD#1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
MD#2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
MD#4 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
)

MA#5 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)

Anonymous said...

Nice try 3:35

Not happening

CRUSH is established and will remain top tier

Maybe NIX should improve their strength of schedule, earn more quality wins

Anonymous said...

Spirit prediction:

A- Crew Juniors
B- Greater Binghamton
C- PDA Ajax
D- Calvert Crew

Finals Crew v Calvert with Calvert taking it.

Anonymous said...

NJX toyed with Crush in Delco and the last friendly. Not even close. Crush will be in the deep end for fc stars...... enjoy.

Anonymous said...

Are ANY academy teams going to wags?

Anonymous said...

Any quality wins for Crush last year or even last season?
Don't all respond at once.

Anonymous said...

NJX will be lucky to be a finalist at FC Stars

Anonymous said...

EDP schedule is up. Really confusing. Don't see any NPL games. FSA Navy is in second division. Crush Tsunami isn't in any division, but has 4 crossover games.

Anonymous said...

6:51 EDP schedule isn't official until it's been published on there web page for a reason they are working on it.

Maybe what you see is the final product maybe it isn't. I though EDL is in the Spring and they split the teams up into two groups and play something like 4 games to determine their champs. You can only guess when the info is hard to find. I like the NYCSL web page - you can break down their NPL very easily. They play over 20 games - NE Girls NPL plays over 20 games - EDL plays 5 - something is wrong with this picture I agree.

Anonymous said...

Thanks captain obvious. It is published on "their" web page.

Anonymous said...

Oh-oh, the spelling cop is on the board, everyone hide.

Anonymous said...

Uh-oh

Anonymous said...

Luck?

I am hoping for competitive games. You may have never played the game. Soccer is a game of luck, mistakes and breakdowns. In a competitive tournament, any team can beat anyone. So yes I say getting to the finals in a major tournament requires some luck on your side.

Anonymous said...

i agree... anyone can win that thing. There are some dark horses in each bracket that can go on a run. You never know.

Anonymous said...

Delco Njx win over Crush was U11

You got hammered last year by West Chester and Breakers after not finishing for the title at U11

Anonymous said...

Cats or PDA wins Spirits

Anonymous said...

I think you did great at State Cup, by the way....though you almost coughed it up to 'm force

Just no need to take down other Jersey teams on a blog.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't that the last time they played in a game against each other? Think that was the point of the post. Were you at the friendly? If you were, I would find it hard to believe that you would be pumping your chest..... Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Wags has like 3 tough teams..... PA teams not near as strong as NJ and MA. Stars and spirit are both much deeper in talent than wags.

Anonymous said...

"PA teams not near as strong as NJ and MA"

Not near as strong? What are you basing that on?

If the four best in PAE are PF, PL, 1776, and Ukrainians, here are the most recent results playing against "good" NJ/MA teams:

1776/Nether: no recent results
Ukrainians: no recent results
PL: tied Rage 2-2 in April (presumably this is the old Rage team)
PF: tied Boston 1-1 and defeated NJX 2-0 at Delco Tourney

I don't see how you can look at that and say "not nearly as strong".

And as far as WAGS goes, I'm not sure I get your point about PA teams not being strong considering PF is the only PAE team in the top bracket.

Anonymous said...

"Were you at the friendly?"

Yes.

I have given NJX proper respect. Pulling for them vs Charlton next week.

Anonymous said...

If you go purely by the Gotsoccer National rank (which we know is not without flaws), the tournament ranking for top brackets would be:

Event Avg Nat'l rank
STARS 22.25
SPIRIT 46.42
WAGS 52.08

Spirit and Wags are close, but Stars is clearly top.

Anonymous said...

DELETE POSTS ADMIN

Anonymous said...

oh no.. you just wasted a post with that "delete posts admin" post...

blog closing down in 4

Anonymous said...

3

Anonymous said...

Did crazy cat step down as head coach or did someone hack gs and put a pic of a new guy up for fun?

Anonymous said...

Match Fit Blue in S t a u14 isn't N J X, is it?

Anonymous said...

Good look at S t a and Match Black tomorrow in Modification

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