Hey (4:41 Nov24th) - Where are you hiding, I thought you talked to UNC's coach lolYou are a true know it all but I guess people you talk to sway you the wrong way also on what to believe. I think there have been plenty of helpful posts proving you otherwise.
Long overdue that someone give Rutgers Women's soccer some love & I am going to be first one to do it. 19 wins, 3 losses & 2 ties so far this season. Only 6 goals scored against in the 24 games. First time ever in the Quarterfinals of NCAA tournament with next game against #1 seed Virginia on Fri 11/27 at 2pm. Will you be watching?
That's what happens when you can keep the local talent home. Go Rutgers!
21 of the 30 players carried on the roster from NJ, only 8 seniors. Kudos to Coach O'Neill, Coach Ryan & rest of staff. This run will do wonders for the program, their camps (the summer one is already one of the best in the area) & recruiting. Go Rutgers!
How many of thier players are from PDA? How many are committed to Rutgers?
1:44 - these are all just verbal commitments, nothing in writing. there were no official visits but could have been unofficial visits. Where you might have just run into the coach. Colleges can not contact the girls. The girls can reach out the coaches on the phone and they may talk. By the way, if anyone has ever been to UNC the campus is beautiful.
4:41 and 4:55 most likely spend a lot of time calling each other. One pretends to be the college coach and the other the important parent. I guess that UNC coach must have forgotten to mention it too you or didn't realize the degree of your importance. Its amazing how someone like you that thinks they know some much, really knows so little. You should call 1-800-JACK-ASS and their most likely be quite a few of your know nothing friends on that line.
These colleges also have camps. I think SoccerNut mentioned that if you want to go a certain school you go to their camps.
1:44 I'm interested in knowing why its obscene for a player that has committed so much of her time to this sport, to accept a verbal proposal? If it was a girl that excelled on the piano or cello, or a student that has excelled academically, would it still be considered obscene? Or is simply that a couple of you made really dumb statements trashing others on here and were wrong once again?
4:55 (Nov 24th) was right in calling me a maroon. Girl from Penn Fusion that committed verbally is 2018 grad (not 2019). I totally wiffed in thinking she was a 2019, but at least I got the club right. Got to give the girl her props and she must be a hell of a dominant player. PL Parent
Some Top 2019 players will start committing now but only a select few. And then before Sophmore year only the top players will we see committ. The bulk of players committing to top D1 teams commit any the beginning of Junior year.
The parents of those players must be elated when they not only see their child's hard work pay off, but justification for everything they put into it as well. Question for you ECNL parents. How late into the season will your kids be playing and practicing outside?
9:14All winter as long as the fields are clear.
Then inside. No break.
She is outside right now juggling, blindfolded.
There are so many of you who are hoping that your investment will pay off and using the experience of 1 kid at IMG as your bellweather. To quote another poster...what a maroon.While others are on here with the "don't burst my bubble and that of our child". See above.If you want to play in a league that promotes showcases for 14 year olds, have at it. Do your homework. Don't have others do it for you. You are free to call any of a dozen coaches in the tri-state area and ask if they are looking at U14 girls and they will either laugh or politely educate you to the contrary.Or you can continue to use the kid from IMG as the example that you feel reflects the norm and what is real for your kid.Ask yourself this question: Whose best interest is it to give off the "feeling" that U14 events are great showcase environments?The player? The parent? The club coach? The tournament company? Got soccer? The college coach?You well know that the answer in order is:1. Tournament company for $2. Club coach who wants to keep you on the hook.3. Gotsoccer for $ (Web traffic and related)4. The parent (Setting: Backyard barbecue among neighbors and friends. "Oh, our little darling just got back from the turf farm in south Jersey playing in a college showcase y'all."5. The college coach (They don't come to U14 events unless you feel that sending a grad assistant who lives nearby to come and walk the event is useful)6. The player. They'd be just as happy playing locally and then off to continue the day being teenagers.Go ahead. Don't be afraid. Call a coach. Any of them. Why not? Because maybe they will give you the truth you don't want to hear?Here's another tip. Go interview a dozen parents who came before you and ask them if in the end the hype was worth it. Pick a random sample. Not the dreamers and not the folks who are too ashamed to admit that they poured too much cash and time into soccer. They will all say, "Were I to do it again, I would not have gone down that road." Again, don't cherry pick who you talk to.Do your own homework.Make the call. Make it!
In the spirit of Soccer-giving, I will list the top 5 reasons I am grateful this day:5. My daughter is healthy, and strong.4. She has grown both as a player, and a person.3. She has stopped listening to my soccer-advise, even though it has obviously helped her, obviously.2. To the club, and the coach, who have seen her potential, and rewarded her for it.1. My daughter is confident, and happy.Cheers!
10:03 go to the head of the class! All the right focus points. Not once did you use the words showcase, college commitments or scholarship on a forum for 14 year old girls.And it makes no difference if your daughter plays for PDA or a town club. You have the proper perspective for soccer involving 14 year olds.Or...as with some, they can search the web for quotes from one girl who left her home to go to IMG and use that as the roadmap or validation for the lunacy.Good on you!
11:13, thanks, she plays for NYSC, and she loves it....
I don't think its an issue of showcasing at U14, if its a necessary evil that needs to be done, so be it (my daughter is not an ecnl player). But I have done my homework as far as looking at college rosters and seeing the percentage of ECNL players that are on them. I'm not talking out west or in the south, but with the east coast schools. Take a look at big five schools like Temple or ones similar in stature to the Big Five that are dominated by ECLN players. Seeing this has given me pause and made me seriously think about going the ecnl route with my daughter as a U15.
Correct! At older ages.Each year the "I have to be seen" age goes down lower and lower. Soon enough moms will be pushing strollers in their high heels with babies in diapers like the Kennel Club dog show. It's too early at U14 and younger and only dopes fail to see that.If you are 15 and older, it becomes more relevant. But here too...if you are lacking a special ability to play, you are wasting your time. Schools are not scholarshipping back-up midfielders or third string keepers. If your kid wants to play soccer in college that much and if they are only average then try to find the right school academically first and see if that school might let you walk on.Net of it all is that there are only so many spots and face it. All of your darlings are not DI material nor high level DII or DIII. They just might be walk-on, "happy to be on the team" types.
I agree there are many "happy to be on the team types" on ecnl teams. But if it fills a need for both player and parent (especially the player), well, shall we say its their money to spend?
Yes 12:55. For most it's about spending the money and for many of those spending the money...they in fact DON'T have the money to safe to say it should be spent on a college savings plan or something else. But yes, its their money.And also yes...MANY of the ECNL and NPL players among the bloated rosters are "happy to be here types" forgetting the most important thing.IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING ON THE FIELD AND PLAYING THE GAME!!
8:39well said.Been there. Done that.There are so many dirty little secrets that these high level coaches aren't telling you.Soccer Nut
Some of you guys are crazy - correct me if I'm wrong - isn't youth soccer about the kid and the kid being happy?I don't follow telling someone that they are wrong to be "happy to be here types" and that this will make them happy "IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING ON THE FIELD AND PLAYING THE GAME"?If they are happy why do you care and why do you think what makes you happy will make them happy?10:03 right on brother8:39 I haven't read one post of someone hoping the investment will pay off. I started using the word showcase and ALL kids playing 50% of the games because my kid is a '01 and starting next year those are the only U16 tournaments they will do. Someone got all bent out of shape because this is a U14 board for '02s and '01s and must think that showcase tournaments are used to win games and not promote the kids. And to repeat I SAID leagues are used to compete and mins awarded to the players that work hard. SHOWCASE events are for the players that don't get regular mins in league games to play 50% of the game and showcase their talents. They all play and they play to win. My guess is that you coach or your kid plays on a team that will not play all it's player's 50% of the time because THEY MUST WIN. GS4 Life
GS 4 Life statement about the 01's going straight to U16 next year, brings up a question that parents must deal with. With this sudden change, there will be parents fearful of their daughters ability to keep up, especially if their daughter is already battling for minutes with 00's on their current team. Finding a good team and a good situation for an 01 player will be much tougher than it ever has been. Let me ask you bloggers that know or can see the bigger picture better than I. Will this new setup have an adverse affect on 01 sophmore's that will be playing in showcases next year, simply because they should be showing better skills than their 01's counterparts that are freshmen? I believe the percentage of players with different grad years will be much greater with this birth year change. PL Parent
NYSC guy - why wouldnt you take your daughter to Albertson (ECNL)? Is it strictly a logisitical thing - too far - too time consuming?
8:53...You're the person who does a jigsaw puzzle over and over again and each time you put the pieces back in the box you lose a piece or two and over time your 500 piece puzzle is missing so many pieces you can't see the picture.You are assuming that most of these kids are actually happy with all of the commitment and travel and car rides on school nights. The reality is that most of them go from place to place in an almost zombie like trance as they fulfill their next "obligation" as prescribed be the PARENT who really wants this more than the kid. MOST 14 year old girls if asked and allowed to answer how they really felt would opt to play more minutes and not have to traipse all over the place for games. That's a parent and soccer business agenda that most kids could care less about.Funny thing is that the kids have little choice. Go ask your kid. Would you rather play a full match on a quality team or half or less than half the minutes on an "uber" team? Most if allowed to answer honestly would choose to play more. They just don't know any better because adults are telling them that the under team and 40% playing time is best for them.Think this through: There are only so many uber players in the area. But the "system" says that ECNL and NPL team are all uber. Ridiculous. And then each of these teams have 25+ players on each team with many of these kids getting garbage playing time. Do you really think this is good for the kid? If given a clear choice, do you really think they'd choose sitting over playing?As the other poster said...do your own homework. Ask them for yourself. Why not? You may find that if you really ask your kid and really allow them to understand the other opportunity out there (play more; drive less, etc.) and really tell them that you are fine with any decision they make that they might actually say, "Dad, mom...the thought of me playing more sounds great. The thought of me not spending 5 hours each week driving back and forth from practice sounds great. The thought of my decisions in the game and on the ball really mattering sounds great. Let's try that."Ask the question. What are you afraid of? The truth?
GS 4 life - why is your daughter playing u16 next year and not u15 if she is an 01?
Albertson is too far, and their training is inferior, NYSC has some the best youth training in the country. Besides, World Class and CFC are much closer to us, but we are really happy and don’t plan on leaving anytime soon. Even though the club does not have an ECNL franchise, we believe that the club’s reputation will garner college coach interest. However, before any of that, the girls have to turn great training into solid wins on the pitch. A .500 season is simply not acceptable to my kid, her coach, or the club.
Isn't the U15 team really strong? Have they been able to hold on to their best players?
9:02, are you asking me, 8:47?
With the birth year change, the 01's will be moved into the U16 age group. That is what GS 4 Life is talking about (my daughter is an 01 also).PL Parent
So you want me to write about another team? No thanks. How would I know, besides you are probably with that team, or you left that team, either way, its a lose/lose to discuss another team.
NYSC guy makes a strong case against top players needing the ECNLIts a tough call, but there is some fine training outside the "elite" league.I do disagree about Albertson. I think their U16s next year (2001 year) will be quite strong
I did not say anything about any teams, I said the training is inferior. I watched one of their games at Bethesda, and they have some impact players, but their tactical and technical was weak.As far as that team goes, sure they might be good, hope they are. I have read that some of the EM girls might be coming over, have you heard that?
At places like NYSC it isnt about holding on to all your best talentIts about keeping enough of them - and having a work ethic, a plan and a discipline to your program. Players will find you - and yeah, you will lose some pretty good ones - and yet survive just fine. Applause for those who buy into this and whose daughters develop just fine in the process
6:55 pick a side - I was talking about what you people call the "happy to be there" players and I said if they are HAPPY what's your beef with them, what odes that have to do with me losing pieces? I am sure at some point old age will catch up to me but I still have some quality years before then.If you are talking about girls that are NOT HAPPY then I am with you they should find a place they are happy. But I was talking about the label you guys used -HAPPY TO BE THERE" how can they be both they are either happy or not?No one is making any assumptions besides you pal and yes the kids have a choice and you are the same person that rips into them when they choose to stay. Can't have it both ways - pick a side - if the kid wants to stay back off.Dude you are late to the party - I had this talk already with my kid since USSF announced birth year change and that this will probably will be their last season together. She knows who she is as a person and that soccer does not define that regardless of her minutes played.As far as homework - I think I have that down - as far as playing the game -I also have that down - as far as being a fan of the game I have that down as well.GS 4 Life
I never believe or repeat rumors about player movement, 10:14. Did hear the coach may be coming back from Portland and may be coaching the U16 (that is the '01 birth years). For whatever this is worth to you.....
I agree 100% it's about having the work ethic that's what the player brings regardless of level of play, the team brings the teaching tactical and technical. The girls are u14 and today's roster depth sometimes turns out to be tomorrow's impact players.Stay happy and work hard girls and don't listen to these poopoo people just do what you enjoy doingGS 4 life
I was asking the NYSC guy if the current u15 team is still together or did the better players go to an ECNL team. As I recall, they were considered one of the better teams at their age group. I say this cause it does appear that NYSC runs a good program in the early years and am curious if they can hold on their players in the later years.
6:55 you are drawing this picture of these unhappy kids doing forced labor. I think from U11 to U13 you might have a leg to stand on and parents may be way over the top on wanting their kids to play at a level their kids might not be able to reach (and children at this age still want to please). But teenage girls tend to let their feeling known and if they don't want to do something, not only will they tell you about it, but they just won't do it. My own daughter has asked me to find her a better challenge next year, and I'm sure there are many on here that have heard similar request. I sure there are still many that want to play where their friends are playing and stay in their comfort zone, but the really driven ones, are looking to excel against the best their parents can find.
11:20 right on man.My kid picked her club and din't care what team she played on -because in her own words they were better teams from top to bottom. She has started from day 1 and plays more than 50%. I spoke to her about next season and the challenge shew will be faced with as an '01. we talked about things remaining the same or her possibly becoming roster depth. She told me straight up she is where she want to be. Can she play for her old team and never come off the field, yes if that's what she wanted but she doesn't. So I might come across as a Kool-Aide drinking parent and that's cool because I know i do what I do for my daughter and she doesn't do it for me.PL - have you guys talked about your situation - no need to answer - wish your kid nothing but the best with what ever happensGS 4 Life
11:20 was PL Parent, just forgot to sign it as I was being forced out the door by a daughter that can't believe she's wasn't out shopping yet. Reading all this back and forth talk regarding player movement, showcases, college coaches and college rosters. I think we all can agree that we better really enjoy this spring when our girls are still playing U14 and for many, it may be the last time they play together (parents too). Its a shame that it gets so serious for the 01's so quickly. As for PL, we are like many others teams, parents searching for a way to keep the majority together, but unfortunately that may not mean what is best for the individual. And when we're talking U16 right out of the gate, you want to make sure your giving your daughter her best chance to succeed. A coach explained to me how almost every parent that has multiple kids in soccer, pancake the first one. He told me that most parents are not sure what to do the first time around and often burn out the player and can create an attitude where most won't want to deal with them. But the second time around parents realize they need to turn the heat down and the player turns out to be more well rounded as a player and emotionally, and often more desired. Just like a pancake.Its why I want my daughter to make the decision.PL Parent.
PL Parent, how would you describe the style of soccer your team plays?
When playing well, we possess the ball to the point where you can see defenders tiring from chasing. But like the Gambino crime family in NY, we don't always shoot straight, so its a good thing we get off a high volume of shots. We have been accused of being dirty, but big girls that play hard often get accused of that. Like any team, when you see our defenders on the offensive side of centerfield and making runs inside the 18 of the mids passes, you know its going well. Funny thing is, we always seem to not play well in the first 15 minutes of games, and then settle in after that. Does anyone else suffer from this affliction? When not playing well, we are usually really glad our defenders don't allow many shots and there is a great keeper in back. Becomes a good game of kickball.I wish we could play in the PDA tournament or the Stars of Mass in the spring, as it would be great to play some different teams of higher quality. See different styles and different formations play against each other is what makes the game so great. GS 4 Life, Soccer Nut and a few others. Sorry when I post something kind of dumb, you guys get lumped in with me and have been called elitist by an angry poster or two (I failed to acknowledge State Cup Champion recently). My references are often more based on personal experiences than actual knowledge of what the governing bodies of soccer put out there for us to know. Many on this board are extremely well versed in these areas and I appreciate your post as I do many others on here, especially when its great give and take.PL Parent
Rutgers advances to semi finals after extended pks over VA.
I heard EMSC in financial trouble and teams in general (albeit 01's) are sub par and half dozen including "superstar" are headed to Albertson come fall. With the age shakeup coming you hear new rumors each week on what families are doing to put their daughters in the best position they can for the future.
Congrats to Rutgers Womens Soccer !!!! Final Four, wow !!! Defense won it today.
Unusual things happen on Strange Island, and that one is no exception, maybe a combination of the best 11 from both teams will finally create a regional power, God knows they all need that.
Elite 8 womens soccer games not even televised? Sad.
Three of the teams that were in the Elite 8, Duke, Penn State and Rutgers have over 45 region one players on their rosters. Probably more if you count those on the Virginia teams. Great to see such a strong showing by region one players on top teams. Should give college coaches even more reason to stay within their region. The number of NJ players on a great Rutgers squad is an amazing testament to a college coach knowing their area. PL Parent
I agree - but don't sleep on the euros. I have been posting on here for some time that Europe is investing in the womens game. Florida State has 7!!!GS 4 Life
Thanks PL parent, that was a good description of the teams style, and I tip my hat to your desire to play possession soccer. It's not as easy as it sounds, so much so, that I am a little skeptical of your take on it. Haha, yeah I know that sounds weird, but I think you guys play more of a hybrid that incorporates possession, but is more press and chase, than any Dutch style, am I wrong?
How about we train them in the European style, instead of this over the top, direct style that all youth teams seem to play. Personally, I think it's all the English guys who come here and teach our kids lousy soccer, I mean how great is English soccer? Please 1966 was a long time ago, and I heard they bought that cup anyway!
5:56 it was streamed live. I watched the telecast. Virginia had the best of play but Rutgers did have a couple of very good scoring chances one right at the end of regulation ( 1 v 1 with the keeper who made a nice save). PKs started off bad for Rutgers. VA keeper stopped the first 2 and the the VA keeper used wasn't even the one who played the whole game. She came in off the bench just to defend the PKs. Rutgers broke through on PKs with their goalie taking the 3rd and finally putting one in.
You're both idiots
Who is an idiot?
I think 7:07 was just trying to break up the "love in".
I think I'm the idiot for spending my time reading this ridiculous board.
And thank you for that, 7:07 if that was your plan. If penn legacy and the got soccer boy congratulate themselves any more for their insightful posts I may puke.
6:50 yeah, your right. That's why I said "when we are playing well". But that's probably true of any team and everyone wants to proclaim we are a possession team. You used the term "press", which is actually a better description than I gave. You must watch a lot of soccer to know what style different nationalities play. When it comes to soccer knowledge, I always feel like an frigging infant on this board. PL Parent
Or just an idiotPL Parent
Just curious PL Parent, do the other parents on PL know you are 'PL Parent'?...or does everyone continue to guess it is different people on the team? No judging, just curious.
Fairly sure he posts on here more often than he lets on. Meaning doesn't always add the sign off name.
Good luck GS4 life today at newss. You guys are well overdue for a tournamanet win.
Thanks 8:05NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer ShowcaseCESC CALVERT-ELITE CREW (MD) ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)NJCSA ELITE NPL - MANALAPAN (NJ)YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT) MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)OAKWOOD SC (CT) GS 4 Life
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The "unofficial"visits are only that in name. The college coaches contact your child's coach usually through email. The club coach passes said interest on to your child. The email usually says something like, " I saw #10 super kid play at PDA and thought she did great things. Sometimes they detail the great things. We are interested in her. If she is interested in our super school please have her call me in my cell # xxx-xxx-xxxx. Kid calls the coach and the process begins. Our experience was that the coach saw the kid in 3 or so events before she was invited to a visit although that was variable. When she went to the first in the spring of her freshmen year, we found out how " official " these visits really are. The coaches can talk to your kid on campus. You drive/ fly to the school and meet them usually at their office. They have printed and sent you an itinerary for the visit. They introduce themselves and small talk your kid and you and start touring the field house, practice locker rooms, practice fields. Usually you meet and talk to the strength and conditioning coach at that point and he shows you all the cool workout technology they have and what the programs he works out for the kids look like. You usually meet up then with the academic support person assigned to the soccer team and she tells you about all the extra support the athletes receive. Then you do a campus tour usually in the coaches car or sometimes a van. More than one coach usually accompanies you. There might be another kid and her family also visiting. They tell you about the town but are not allowed to drive off campus with you. They know where the NCAA Considers the border of the campus and don't cross it. Usually you then leave the campus in you own car to go see a game. You probably stop and get something to eat by yourself along the way. You meet one of the coaches at the game venue a couple hours before the game. They tour you around the game facility and show you the swag the kid gets and the cool game day routine. Sometimes you sit in on their preface chalk talk. Your kid goes on the field during warm ups to watch. When the game begins she comes and sits with you in the stands because she isn't allowed on the bench. If the game is on a Sunday you see the game and then talk to the coach before you leave.
part 2 just trying to be helpful and share experiences I wish we had with the first one. I did this in response to the kooky guy who acts like a scholarship is never going to happen. They happen for many kids who want them. Just might not be their top choice school if the soccer match or academic match isn't there. If they can get in without a soccer nudge then I guess they make a decision.After the game if a Friday usually your kid spends the night with freshmen in the dorm. This was exciting for my kid. They were gracious in asking we parents if we were ok with that. My kid has had a blast at these sleep overs. You stay in a hotel. Then you pick the kid up in the AM feed her a bagel or something and meet the coach. Sometimes they make an offer at this point. Other times they are pretty frank about where she stands as far as how many more times they need to see her, what she needs to work on, even that they think she will be the number 2 kid recruited for that position that year. I was a little miffed the first time they told us our kid was not their first choice for a position because we had flown to the school and I kind of felt the situation was misrepresented to us. After that I was more aggressive to find out where she stood before we spent the time and money to visit. They had to tell us that they did not already have an offer out to anther kid for the spot they were looking at our kid for. Couple tips: try not to dominate the visit. Try and sit back and let your child take center stage. Do however get your questions answered. I always try and stay back from my child but I felt that the coaches in general really wanted to talk to me too. They were usually very inviting. They are selling you the whole time. The kid definitely drinks the kook aide. You will have to figure out your child and how to help her identify what's most important to her in the school which should not necessarily be a major since she may be 14 when you are having this conversation. We went with a big school that has a solid academic reputation and leaves pretty much all options in future study open to her. She isn't there yet and in the last 2 years has changed her mind several times in what interests her. It is ridiculous that they make you go through this with a mere child, but you get this sense, for most of us with human children, that if you don't move you will lose opportunities. Honestly we felt more than a little anxious through the process but really tried to keep it fun for our child. She defintiy enjoyed the visits and the process once she got used to calling coaches on the phone.
10:34 - Great stuff. Thank you for posting.
Couldn't agree more 10:3910:34 & 10:37 thanks for your posts.GS4 Life
CRUSH wins 2 - 1
Since you guys seem to appreciate the first hand information I will tell you a little about the offers themselves. That seemed to be a taboo area when talking to other parents so if your child's coach isn't helpful you might be confused during that phase. Hope this helps:The offers themselves were very variable in, timing, time to decision, and amounts. One offer, definitely to a less competitive RPI school, but excellernt academics, was made over the phone immediately after one of those big summer ID camps my kid went to prior to 10th grade without her even visiting the school. They said they wanted us to know they were serious when we brought her in. Another big conference school said they needed to see her 8 times before they would extend an offer (never happened). One school gave us 6 months to decide, several said 30 days and one only said, if and when she makes our super school her number one choice, give us a call (we didn't). One very well organized school submitted to her a very generous offer and graciously agreed to wait until she had visited several other schools she already had on her schedule. They said they didn't want her to come having any regrets. That's the one she ultimately took actually and their gracious approach we felt refected well on them as people to whom we were going to essentially hand over our child. Another school seemed to put on a grand show of loving the kid and then as we were winding up the visit offered only books. No offer that she received was 100%. I know that national players do get those kinds of offers, but not every kid invited to national camp is on a 100% scholarship. They have since changed the rules and now can, and do, offer all athletes food with a roster spot. Seems that books, fees, tuition and then housing is what's covered in that order. Our child had a couple offeres for partial tuition, books and fees. The most generous offer was everything but housing and was guaranteed for 4 years. Interestingly too, the relative competitiveness or power ranking of the school did not coorelate perfectly with the generosity of the offers. It seemed some coaches simply liked my child more than others and some seemed to really need her position for her year(she is an attacking field player). It's posible also that they had already been refused by their top choices and were feeling kind of desperate.They started tracking her at U15 fall events. She was a freshman at the time. It all really heated up by the fall of her sophmore year. She made most of her visits from the spring of freshmen year through the summer ti the winter of sophmore year. That was 3 years ago and I know having spoken to her future coach recently that they are currently making offers to 2019s and almost done with 2018. He confirmed the earlier recruiting is becoming the norm and more 8th graders are getting looks and added to tracking lists than ever before. You might not hear from them while they are tracking her.Most kids get the first forwarded email in ninth grade; save the u14-15 YNT kids.
Wow Crush defeats Glaxy and Albertsons beats NJCSA Elite easily 2 - 0.Both galaxy and NJCSA far weaker than they were claiming a few shot weeks ago after WAGS.A bit different when you play vs better comp.Neither team is ready for prime time.
It's more like,Boca. it's not njcsa. Bunch of guest players.
I thought Galaxy and Albertson shared players?
Easily???? Did you even see the game. Not much difference between the 2 teams. And if the njcsa was missing a few players, even more impressive.
0 CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREW (MD)1 YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)0 NJCSA ELITE NPL -MANALAPAN (NJ)2 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)2 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)1 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)1 OAKWOOD SC (CT)3 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)1 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)0 CSU U14G NEP ELITE (MA)0 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)1 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)2 LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE)3 EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)0 ALBERTSON FURY 01 NPL (NYE)4 QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE NPL 02 (NYE)
Wow NJCSA Elite loses 2-0 and calls it impressive.Aren't they the ones who wanted credit for winning NJCS?
@3:19 So much for that brain-dead NJCSA mom or Dad saying anything about them being in the same conversation with MF NPL (Or PDA) Even with your usual group of guest players you couldn't beat a team that MF NPL won a decisive game against this fall. Please do not mention it again as it's not worth discussing. Hope is not the same as facts.
12:13 There is no such thing as a 4 year guaranteed Scholarship. Period. You don't mention what level student your kid is. You state that things started U15. Fine. And that assumes your kid is a standout player at the high regional or national level. There are no 8th graders or 9th graders going on official visits. None! You can freely visit a college any time you like but (except for that one in a million kid) there are no college coaches hosting 8th and 9th graders. You talk a good game but since you don't ID yourself or the schools involved you lack credibility. Getting money for books is a joke. Offers over the phone are not credible and they are used all of the time as a way to see how eager you are about their school. 99% of verbal offers never get to paper. Real offers NEVER give you 6 months to decide unless you're Mia Hamm. The offer is not real if they have the time to give you 6 months.So tell us, what school did your kid go to? There are 30 kids on most rosters. we'll never know your true ID. Come on, tell us.
Guest players are just fillers. Most starters are hurt or elsewhere
Please 6:25 you had the Boca players in state cup this fall.And you just lost your 2nd shutout game of the day 1-0.You knock Galaxy for losing 2 today but as least we scored a goal.
They are a 2nd tier, parent run team.No serious players will ever go there because of the politics.The 2 pets, one of the coach and one of the DOC monopolize the ball.Now throw in the Boca coaches daughter who plays with them as often as not and you have about the worst polital situation in the Region.Those 3 only pass to each other if you have watched them play.
Ok then they are 2nd tier. Then you have nothing to worry about.
5:47 you are wrong on the 4 year scholarships, I know first hand and several conferences are offering them now. You are also wrong about the 9th graders going on visits. I cannot confirm 8th graders on visits, but I can confirm 8th graders getting contacted through their club coaches by colleges. That phenomenon is also verified in the NYtimes articles. I can confirm "unofficial" visits that are hosted for two days as I previously detailed. My older child has not been invited to national camp. I will not identify myself, and expose my children.Readers can use the information that I provide as they would.
NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer ShowcaseU14 Showcase Red6 (+4) ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)6 (+2) YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)0 (-3) CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREW (MD) 0 (-3) NJCSA ELITE NPL -MANALAPAN (NJ)6 (+3) MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE) 3 (+0) OAKWOOD SC (CT) 3 (+0) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)0 (-3) NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)U14 Showcase White6 (+3) MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)3 (+0) BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)1 (-1) CSU U14G NEP ELITE (MA) 1 (-1) RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE) 4 (+1) EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)4 (+1) ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)3 (+2) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)0 (-4) LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE)
The reason you guest play is so kids can play. The tournament allows it. Players can leave team if not happy. And they lose with the guest so even worse. I always see Guest players.
That is such a crock.No other Jersey teams use guests at this level.You don't need guest players unless you don't have enough on your roster.And that is not the case with NJCSA.
@1:47 Looks like that state cup win is as worthless as the NJSCA roster credibility.If I were a typical NJSCA parent, I would go out of my way to stop talking, because every word that comes out is either an excuse, or a lie.
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