I have an 02 daughter and would love to stay in northern NJ, what are my best odds next year. I would assume WC will be a good option, but how do we know how these other teams will end up? I don't want to have my daughter move to a u16 team with current club, they won't be strong. This is difficult to figure out and I know the clubs and coaches will BS me.
Some coaches should not be coaching. The PU coach is an example of one.
@2:05, so not sure what you mean. If you leave your house at 5pm from Toms River, arrive at Zarephath at 6:15 for training, done at 7:45, home at 9. Perhaps that is the better scenario. Or play local, leave at 6, train from 615 to 730, home by 745. 2:05, I know many players that do the first scenario, different towns, but same thing. We have players driving 45-1 hour for training and home matches. What can I tell you. So you waste essentially another 45-1 hour per night, say times twice per week, 4 hours per week, it starts to add up, then you add in gas and tolls. that is my point.
If your child is not playing at least 50% of a game, regardless of the reason or excuse, move teams. No child wants to sit on the bench and watch everyone else play. IF you play ECNL and do not start, get away for sure, you are wasting tons of money. The real progress and growth comes on the field at real speed of play with pressure.It is that simple people!
Really good conversation today without everyone ripping each other. Really liked the parents blog about kids on the "B" team, and then working their way onto the "A" team. It not only shows hard work being rewarded, but also shows club loyalty to all its players. I would like to know from ECNL parents that have been with their team for a couple years, if many girls get moved up or do tryouts always bring new players that keeps that from happening? PL has picked up 7 new players in two year without moving anyone up, so I'm not sure how often that happens with any club.PL Parent
Speaking of dirty teams Penn Legacy was accused of being just that, so tell us PL Parent, is your daughter one of these dirty players, or was somebody made at getting pushed around all day.
We played pl this season in league play, nothing dirty, they just crushed us. Very good team, possession play, many shots on goal.
@2:57 Now that, is the bottom line. And if a coach is not up front with player on why and not up front with parents on why, even worse.
The problem with labeling teams or players "dirty" is that most of what I here parents complain about is not even a foul.Most parents do not know the rules and as soon as a strong player plays the ball in an aggressive manner they think it is dirty.And yes our girls play very fast, very hard and very aggressive.Another PL Parent
Thank you 3:21
"B team dad" here.My oldest has played pre-ECNL at one club and is now playing ECNL at a second club (we moved-job change). At both clubs, there were/are previous B team players that made the A team. Granted, at the pre-ECNL club there was a shift from 8v8 to 11v11 and the enlarged roster benefited the previous B teamers. And I note that neither of these players made the ECNL team the following year.I think if a player is new, they may temporarily get the B team label at tryouts and then after few months it will become evident that the club made an error with their team placement. I have had the very small satisfaction of having two different DOCs tell me "I made a mistake" with both of my older kids.But if a kid has been on the B team at a club for a few years, I think it is next to impossible to shirk the "B team" label and move up to the A team. That being said, my oldest daughter's current ECNL team has one such player who gets significant minutes...and they are a very good squad. But I think the birth year change will not work to her advantage and she will be in jeopardy next year.
I thank 3:20 for the complimentary post. Its nice to see that even when you lose against a team, parents can still exhibit class in front of their daughters (or sons). In all honesty, I'm not sure if our group can always say that, but its not from lack of trying. In the past, our players have been accused of being a little on the dirty side, and I think part of that was that we were a bigger team physically. One of the things we lost when the three players went to PF, was their size (and their skill set). My own daughter has good size and girls do seem to fall down around her a lot, but is it being dirty or just two girls being intense and playing hard. To me, dirty is following through on checks after the ball is away, or a leg sweep from behind. I wonder what team out there would have the most vote for such an award as dirtiest team (Pipeline would have my vote).
Come on man how many times are you going to bring up PAGS playoffs and not congratulate the PAGS D1 CHAMPION - LDC UNITED Attack.A true Champion finished in 1st Place Regular Season and then won the Playoffs (I hate Playoffs).
3:21 I totally agree with you on this. If I knew that my daughter has given it a 100% effort to change her situation and nothing had changed, then it would be time to move on. Unfortunately, I thing some just accept that this is where they are and allow it to stay the same.PL Parent
I always felt YMS was much dirtier than PL. PL got a bad rep because of some yappy parents who would bring airhorns to games and chirp at opposing players. Wherever there was an intersect between PL and City Islanders or PL and FC United, those are parents I'm talking about. I'm guessing by his tone that PL Parent is not one of them.
Both my son and daughter came out of the FC Revolution fold. That club had such great coaches during its early years (both boys and girls)and they really concentrated on development. We had a keeper with a strong leg, but she was never allowed to punt and always had to work the ball out of the back, even when we were losing against teams that had better attackers. Wouldn't it be great if the lords of soccer banned any punting below the U11 level? PL Parent
@ 4:02You can call it whatever you want but didn't two of the top four teams elect to forgo the playoffs?
Both solid teams, but still not sure how PAC lost to YMS on Sunday, other than the early goal that YMS scored, game looked one-sided for PAC.
LDC did make a good recovery after not only losing their best player to PL the previous year, but losing to YMS and Warrington Bombers early in the PAGS season. The loss to Warrington had to be especially painful, as that team is such a bad team (loss to PL 9-0 in the spring). Can one of the NJ parents tell us PA guys what are the major leagues in NJ? We have PAGS, EDP and a few minor leagues. But I'm never sure what is equivalent in NJ.
In my opinion the closest thing NJ has to PAGS is probably the 2nd and MAPS divisions of EDP. I think from a talent and development standpoint that's probably the best comparison. I don't even know if JAGS still exists, which would have been a good comparison a few years ago.And with that, we're at 5,000 comments. See you all in a few days when the Admins get around to cleaning some of this up.
Oh yea, we are back! Anybody got something worth while to discuss?How about the NY Cup Final 16 teams, got this from another source:New York Soccer Club New York SC G01Ramapo Valley Soccer Club Tornados '02HBC Soccer Club SparksManhattan Soccer Club G'01 PrideAtletico FC Girls '01.Hauppauge Soccer Club Hot ShotzLevittown Soccer Club SupersonicsSABA Brooklyn CityQuickstrike FC QSFC Elite 02'sNew Hyde Park Wildcats Soccer Club Lady JaguarsFC Westchester FCWE 02 WhiteNew Rochelle Football Club RT PremierMassapequa Soccer Club Lil' RowdiesFCLI Alliance G01Asphalt Green Wave FC ArsenalLaGrange Soccer Club Rage
Latest NJ Top 5?1-PDA Storm- top NJ Team in ECNL just beat MF ECNL2-NJ Wildcats Averbuch -Bethesda F1 Finalist-beat Bethesda ECNL, BRYC,and Albertson ECNL3-MatchFit ECNL- Did not advance at Bethesda F1-lost games 0-2 to Bethesda ECNL and BRYC 4-PDA Dragons5-NJCSA Elite -NJCS Champs
STA might have an argument for #4 or #5.MF NPL no shot after not advancing in F4 at Bethesda.
ha ha, I thought I would check in once back to work on Monday. Only action I saw in NJ was in Mercer County. Boca lost to NJ Rush 1-0 in finals. NJ Rush is a nice up and coming team. Newws is next I like Wildcats from NJ, Albertson in finals? I don't know much about Manhattan, Oakwood has been strong for years.
Let me start off by thanking the administrator for maintaining this site. We all enjoy this site and it wouldn't be possible without your efforts. PL ParentBy the way, PL's U14 team won the U15 bracket at the Hempfield Fall Classic.
10:36 NJ Crush can make that claim before STA can - you check the NYCSL NPL fall results recently? and PDA Ajax is back they beat Dragons 1-0 and are in control of their own destiny. NJCSA Elite sorry but I don't buy it.1. MF ECNL (1st place ECNL division)2. PDA Storm (2nd place ECNL division can't be a head of them even if they won h2h)3. NJ Wildcats NPLThe next teams are all the same to me - I will list them in a who currently hot order according to me4. PDA Ajax 1st in NPL5. NJ Crush 1st in NPL6. PDA Dragons -beat both STA and MFNPL last time they played - results are similar7. STA8. MF NPL (Northeast)The next list of teams I think make up the next level9. TSF (EDP North Champ - beat NJCSA h2h)10. NJCSA Elite(EDP North 4th, lost to TSF, NCS Champ)11. NJ Wildcats Galaxy (EDP North 2nd - only 1 point above NJCSA)12. NJ Rush Blue13. Real NJ Sounders14. Jersey Shore Boca15. SJEBGS 4 LifePA people my attempt on PA1. PL EDP South Champ and domination of PF h2h2. PF ECNL3. 17764. YMS5. PF NPL6. CFC Delco ECNL7. LVU8. PAC9. Ukranians10. LDC United
Actually, you can thank me for sending him/her 2 emails about it, you’re welcome.
GS 4 life - Crush is top 5? Really?
MF ECNL lost by 2 goal differential and shut out by Bethesda ECNL and BRYC and NJ Wildcats Averbuch beat both those teams last week in the same F1 event.MF went home without advancing and Wildcats advanced to final in F1.So in past you down graded Wildcats for only dominating their EDP/NPL while claiming ECNL stronger and deeper league so until Wildcats stepped outside EDP/NPL and got quality winss ECNL or comparable teams they got no respect.Now by your own standards they have earned that respect and ranking above MF ECNL.
OK, guys - lets say it up frontDo these NEWSS games mean anything or are they just "showcasing" the girls?Make up your minds now - no need to hear later after a team loses that "we were playing other girls", "we didnt go all out to win", etcIf we all agree this is COMPETITION this weekend then you may have some answers on Manalapan (NJCSA) and Galaxy (NJ Wildcats)
They matter. Teams will of course be playing to win.No love lost between NJCSA and Galaxy.Competition is a full level below Bethesda F1 but good gage for separating teams at 2nd level.
Top 3 is right4 and 5 debatableCrush have to show up this weekend, get results, not just impress with their play (see State Cup PK loss and closely played L vs Penn Fusion)STA will be back fuller and maybe healthier in the springStill not a great believer in Dragons .
My opinion, just as it was yours but,PF should be ahead of PL. Just easily won top flight at Bethesda. Last meeting between the 2 is insignificant at this point-almost a year and half ago.LVU should probably be higher than CFC. YMS and PF NPL could go either way. I'd say the same with PAC. Those 3 teams would exchange results depending on the day.
I will take the bait for WildcatsNot such an easy win for PF that day. Good game. Apeared to be going to OT/PK much of the way
PF scored in last 5 minutes to break 1-1 tie with Wildcats. Game was 0-0 at halftime.Wildcats brought only 13 players and had to come back in final with only 90 minutes break after playing 2 overtimes vs BRYC in semifinal game.Can't argue with their performance at Bethesda in F1. Certainly proved they belong as a F1 Team in future events this spring.
Lol I guess a 3-1 is better than a 5-0 the first time around this year. I heard the Cats only beat BRYC by one PK to advance. True? Still want to know how that semi game even got to PK's.
Here we go!!!! The Wildcat excuses have begun!
This isnt about Wildcats. Nobody has attacked you, so best to lay low.
How is it that after every tournament the Wildcats have the same story full of the same excuses. I will give them credit for even making the final. Would it happen again tomorrow? No.
PROGRESS for Wildcats was in scoring a goal in each of their last three gamesFirst game vs Alby (3 goals) can be tossed, as Alby was playing second game of the day and WC were fresh
You could be right 12:23, but how can we say PF has improved and PL hasn't? It was a year and a half ago, but it was also a four goal differential. PF did beat the Wildcats at Bethesda, but the Wildcats have not beaten PL in the last three meetings. I think both teams have improved significantly, but until PF has a win that blows everyone away or beats PL, their still #2. Losing games 6-0, and 5-0 in tournaments like PF has done (something PL has never done), leaves a lasting impression. I think the PA list of the top five is right, although the bottom five could be moved around. Just my opinion.
Well since ECNL League leader MF ECNL got shut out by both very strong BRYC ANND Bethesda ECNL Teams I guess Wildcats scoring 1 goal in winning each of those games and scoring vs Penn Fusion in final is worth something no?Certainly not making excuses for playing tough Penn Susion to the wire in final.Not 1 person on this site picked them to even advance out of bracket much less beat BRYC and advance to final.. Good try in spinning their results last weekend but it doesn't fly sorry.As far as youyr prediction in what would happen tomorrow, pure speculation, conversely the results last weekend are very real.
You should probably keep results within the current 2015-16 year. Teams are different obviously.
Hey 1:33 so Albertson has excuse for playing 2nd game of day with 18 while Wildcats fresh with their 13 players playing 4 games in 28 hour span? Can't make excuses for one and not take other into consideration.
Anyone heading out to the US training center tonight in PA? Gonna be a cold one!
Is it true Wildcats Galaxy sent 3 of their players to play with Albertson ECNL Team against their own clubs Wildcats Averbuch NPL team in F1 at Bethesda?Bad form and will not be invited back next fall as affiliate team in Wildcats Club.Maybe NJCSA will take them back?
Yep nothing like a late evening drive out to cow country ;)
Regional combine next month.
Big mystery is how they pulled that off since Wildcats DOC did not receive request nor did he give apporoval online for Wildcats clubs players to play with Albertson Club.
Give it a break, MF ECNL attended Bethesda and played every player equally. Told parents tournament is just away to get girls extra time who do not play enough during league play. NJ Wildcats have to win these tournament where as PDA, MF do not care. Let's see how those teams play ECNL rules and ECNL teams when it mattersTop teamMatch FitPDANo one close after these 2
Seems FIVE players are on both the Wildcats Galaxy and Albertson ECNL rosters.If using different cards, its kosher. Not to say each team is OK with it.
Heh...2:04 relax palYour entire roster represents your club. You would rather divide your team by making such comments declaring your bench to be weak - instead of just tipping your cap to pretty good competition?Yes, we know - in a game that doesnt mean anything for advancement teams often dont give their best showing. Your team (in game vs Bethesda) was just one where this was evident. Dont put it all on the bench players. You are responsible for them as well.
2:04 just likely won "idiot of the day" award. There's still time though folks...
Did the combine emails go out yet?
2:04 give it a rest you are just digging a deeper hole.Your recent results don't justify your rankings just because you say so.Results speak louder than words.Your brand alone doesn't trump superior performance by another NJ team vs same teams in same F1 at same event.
2:04 The "we used bench players" statement has is a door that has been beaten off its hinges. I have to give credit to Penn Fusion and their parents with never coming on here crying that tune. I wonder if you make that statement in front of the bench players parents or kids? Or if you have heard it from other parents and they are staring at you and your kid?
2:05 I noticed that the 5 players that were on Albertsons Roster at Betheseda Tournament last week from Galaxy Team were removed as of 9AM last Monday right after Bethesda.And it is the DOC and leadership of the club, not both teams in the club that have to be "OK" with it. If it's kosher, then wy were they removed by monday morning?And how were they issued the separate cards to Alberstson Team without approval from Wildcats DOC? Was Wildcats Clubs approval forged by Galaxy Coaces?There is not 1 club at this level whose DOC would have signed off on one of their teams sending players to play against their own Clubs NPL Team in a F1 event.It is what you did that is not "kosher".
If you take their checks and if they are on your roster, then they are part of your team.MF needed to beat BRYC to advance and they certainly gave their best effort and came up short 0-2. They were in fact clearly beaten by a better team that day.
MatchFit has told us previously that this years U14 ECNL Team combined the best players from last years pre-ECNL Team with the top 9 players from last year strong NPL Team so who are these 2nd tier bench players that kept them from giong through last weekend at Bethesda?One who assume the coach would want to rotate fresh players with that deep of a roster.
That would be respect. Not a lot of that on here unfortunately.
I think EDP uses different cards than ECNLAnd as a parent, you can do as you wish - play for both teams if you wantThus - "kosher"Now if one team says ADIOS to one or more of the 5 players, that is their choice, though I'd think some money may need to be given back
The entire team will not be asked back at the end of this soccer year/spring.The money only paid for 1 year as an affiliate and that year ends at the end of this spring Affiliate statue is a year to year commitment and has to be renewed or club can choose not to renew affiliate status for following year as happened when Galaxy was run out of NJCSA Club at the end of last spring.And it was not the parents who set up the deal with Albertson Team.The coach and his brother have trained there and it was an inside job by them to try to hurt their own clubs team to move their own selfish agenda forward at the expense of their own club. The only question remaining is to determine how they managed to forge the approval from Wildcats Club.
Agree the main blame cannot be put on the parents.A move like that could not have been perpetrated without the coaches involvement and approval.
If this info is true, it is a complete disgrace to Albertson, and I for one am not surprised. I did enjoy their parents watching our game against, whispering to each other about how could beat us. You wish Long Island pond scum.
Anyone still referring to U13 results have a specific bone to pick with said team. Welcome to U14, joining the party a little late though. Enjoy your break people. Spring should be very interesting.
My understanding (from talking to parents) was that albertson had 4 guest players at Bethesda
11:43 - I said 4-8 are the same to me,my order was based on who's hot now. Both PDA Ajaxand NJ Crush undefeated in league play Ajax beat Dragons and MF and Crush beat STA. Dragons beat MF and have not played STA - last time they played (April) Dragons won, if you want to list STA ahead of them go for it, both still fall in the 4-8 number for me.12:12 It's a showcase tournament to showcase all the players on your roster should play at least 50% of the game in my opinion.12:23 Thanksfor your opinion1:35 Thanks for your opinion1:41 you are right that was my bad,I justdidn't have common opponents, no excuses.Why is every one killing galaxy team? The 5 parents of the 5 players should be questioned, not the team. You don't need cards as a guest player just a birth certificate,if they didn't ask permission - that's a big no no - your kid belongs to the club for the year and if they don't want you playing for anyone else you shouldn't. 3:52 you saying I have a bone to pick with a team because I said Dragons are ahead of STA based on h2h game? So I can't use PL as Defending PA NCS champ because it was a u13 title or that they beat up PF the last time they played? GS 4 Life
I agree you have to leave U13 results in the 2014-15 years play. I know my kids team isn't the same. If there's nothing somewhat recent to compare to then it's all an opinionated guess. Nothing more.
Affiliate statue is a year to year commitment and has to be renewed or club can choose not to renew affiliate status for following year as happened when Galaxy was run out of NJCSA Club at the end of last spring.What is affiliate statue? Galaxy was not run out of NJCSA they left because the old Force fraud somehow had the goods on someone to get hired at NJCSA-Maybe some TR pics in the hot tub or too many free cleats given out?What happens when crazy coach's Wildcats only can field 9 next year?......
Not a matter of guest playing, GS4lifeThe players are ON THE ECNL ROSTER
"Enjoy your break, people...."Break? Funny.
on ECNL website? or GS?
ECNL website for Albygotsoccer site for GalaxyMaybe players left Galaxy already but gs still has them listedSeem that before.
4:52 Wildcats Club splitting up by birth year and will be holding tryouts for separate 2001 NPL team and 2002 NPL team next year. The teams as they are now constituted will be no more at all of the clubs in ECNL/EDP/NPL. It will not be possible to stay competitive at that level with mixed birth year teams remaining together with everyone else going to birth year.The players did not guest, they were rostered to Albertsons Team. Only 1 Galaxy player guested with Albertson Team last week and she had her Wildcats US Club Card, not a birth certificate, LOL(You are really reaching with that one).The other were on Albertsons roster.And no, they were not approved to guest much less card with Albertson Club by Wildcats Club.Who in their right mind would even think ANY Club at this level would approve of their coaches sending players to guest much less card with another club and play against their own NPL Team in F1 of a major tournament.The invetigation is ongoing but it doesn't look good for Galaxy coaches.
Meanwhile big games for Galaxy this weekendAre the Albertson players playing?
GS4life the Galaxy coachers brother coaches at Albertson and was the former coach of Galaxy.There is no way those 5 parents did this on their own and certainly not a chance in hell the 2 Galaxy coaching brothers were not aware of them playing with Albertsons Team last week against Wildcats.
6:26 The Galaxy Teams Players have already been removed from Albertson Teams roster(too late I'm afraid as the "Cat" is already out of the bag).All you have to do is ask Bethesda Tournament Director for the paperwork from Albertson Teams registration packet and you can determine how they managed to pull this scam off.To be fair guys there is a good chance that Albertsons DOC had no more of an idea of what was going on than Wildcats DOC.
They played this weekend also in ECNL competition
This entire Bethesda saga is sad, it shows contempt for the clubs, it shows disrespect for the players, and it is an embarrassment to the parents from both teams, off with their heads.
Well, that explains the victory over CFC this weekend, good job Albertson!At least my child’s club plays honestly, even if we don’t win as much as we want to, we do it the right way, at least our club respects our girls and the parents who support them.
So... PDA adds (poaches) players and is lauded for itAlbertson tries to keep up and is ripped a new one?Please.
But how do you explain everyone else's victories of CFC?
PDA would toss out any players from Ajax or Dragons who showed up playing for Albertson ECNL against PDA Storm. And the PDA coaches who facilitated the move without club approval would be out on their ears as well. I don't blame Wildcats a bit if they give them the heave ho at the end of the year.
7:04 I don’t give a rat’s ass about PDA we are with NYSC, and wrong is wrong.7:07 CFC= Connecticut Football Club
I agree those coaches did not act in an honorable fashion towards their own club.Also could have hurt Wildcats NPL teams chances to advance at Bethesda.What kind of coaches work against their own brand?
Player would be gone permanently from PDABut....Wildcats are not ECNL. So there is a smidgen of a difference.I am guessing the 5 plan on trying out with Albertson anyway, so if Galaxy wants to boot them.....Plenty of other teams around as well.
Yeah, think about that, Albertson trains in the middle of Long Island, those Galaxy girls will commute to LI 3X per week from NJ, are you insane??What does that also say about the feeling towards PDA and MFA, if those parents want the ECNL route.
I think they were commuting to Galaxy
LI girls going to central NJ to play with Galaxy??Why would they do that? They could go to EM, ISA, or Atletico.
They are all core players for Galaxy. They are all Shore Area families. And they all played for NJ Force and for Galaxy Team when they were at NJCSA last year.The 2 brother coaches set them up to play for Albertsons when Galaxy was idle.You can't put the blame all on the families of the players.It was the 2 coaches responsibility to protect the brand of the 2 clubs they work for.Plese stop the spin.
Dude, I am totally with you, its the coaches who should get sacked. Can you imagine if one of the Averbunch girls was injured by a Galaxy player, while playing for Albertson???
It is also against ECNL rules, Alby may have broke a rule in ECNL for the last time.
what - adding players midseason? I hadnt heard that
Galaxy paid a fee for the access not to "join" the wildcats. No affiliation other than the name. Not sure what the stink is if your daughter didn't lose playing time. Back in the day you played whoever lined up across from you and if the other team tried to bring in a ringer or four all the better after kicking their a$$.And to revisit the Matchfit Bethesda disaster what kind of Coolaide is that club serving? A disaster of a showing in every way possible and a parent comes on here blaming the "subs".Pretty pathetic and not even accurate. Other than the best of the best ECNL teams the rest of them winning against a non ECNL club is a crap shoot at best as the results of head to head show. If the ECNL teams played more outside their ECNL bubble it would be even more evident how little difference there is talent wise versus the top non ECNL teams.
I'm still trying to grasp what the issue is. If a player within your ECNL Club is pulled up from a non-ECNL team and/or invited to play for the ECNL team (even for one game), the player must be added to the ECNL season roster for the remainder of the year. Yes, the player will count towards the ECNL Season roster maximum (30 players in all age groups). In saying that, the player is permitted to go back and play with her other team (non-ECNL team) during the season.GS 4 Life
NJ Elite 81. MF ECNL2. PDA Storm3. PDA Ajax 1st - Great season4. MF NPL 2nd place - strong weekend5. NJ Wildcats NPL6. NJ Crush 1st in NPL7. PDA Dragons Bad November8. STANot going to add EDP teams in here as they can't generally compete with above group.
You must be an Ajax parent to even think of listing that team that high.
GS4 Life The issue is also whether or not their home club agreed to them playing for an ECNL Team against their own club in a non-ECNL event and whether that is allowed without authorization from the home club. Are you saying an ECNL Club can card a player to their ECNL Team already carded to another NPL club without that clubs authorization?Also can a carded player guest with another club without the club and coach of the team they are carded to agreeing? Albertson Team had a Galaxy player playing with them as guest and a few that were carded to Albertson as well and Wildcats Galaxy as well.
Match Fit NPL too high as well
9:28 But the players were not brought up from within the Albertson Club.
Think NJCSA, TSF and Galaxy should be higher than Ajax, Dragons and especially MatchFit NPL as those last 3 have no wins outside of beating each other.
Is this the same Ajax team that got crushed at Bethesda? Please tell me that they are listing a different Ajax team? Because that team couldn't connect two passes at Bethesda and got crushed by a run of the mill PA team.
Not a Ajax parent, but i have seen all of these team play this year in person, Other that MF and PDA ECNL teams, they're next.Match Fit NPL is clearly #4. Saw a few others as well including NJCSA and they're not in anyone's top ten that's not a coach or a parent (or a parent-coach)
10:19 - You should refrain from commenting here after saying that NJCSA, TSF, or Galaxy should be ranked anywhere NEAR Ajax, Dragon, or especially Match Fit.... You talk like you took too many headers with a bowling ball.
Way I read Match Fit post, played all girls regardless of score. Starters did not play like they normally do.
@10:19 You think NJCSA, TSF or Galaxy would beat Ajax, Dragons, or MF NPL once if they played 5 games vs each other?The answer is no. If you think otherwise, you have been taking too many bowling ball headers.
10:37 You are in denial. Downing that KoolAid that they must be spiking with something unusually strong this week.Ajax results vs teams in F1 at Bethesda were not even comparable with Wildcats results.Wasn't Ajax shut out every game at Bethesda? Lost one game 5-0 to 1776 which is a middle of the pack EDP Team. Then lost 3 or 4 Zip to Maryland Red. Yet 9:56 says not going to rank EDP Teams as they generally can't compete?Truth is it is the NE-NPL Teams who can't compete when they step out of their cocoon this year at U14. Dragons will get their chance to step out at Jeff Cup but expect them to go home early as well.And MF NPL please stop, they couldn't even advance in F4, where Lehigh Valley team, another EDP Team won their flight 4 in dominating fashion.All the talk in preseason about how that MF NPL Team would be just as good without the players who moved on to MF ECNL Team was all smoke and mirrors from their coach.That is the same Lehigh Valley team that Wildcats just demolished 6-0 a week prior to Bethesda Tournament in deciding game of EDP Central League.EDP Teams had a big weekend at Bethesda while NE-NPL fell flat again.
Agree they are in denial.They sound like the Stepford Wives just regurgitating these canned responses regardless of what they do when they step on the field.
There it is again as post 10:44 is again March Fit throwing their subs under the bus.We lost becaause we let the subs play regardless of score.Does that mean your subs would not usually get in the game if you were "really trying".What happened to your stacked roster this year?They really are shameless.
NJCSA made finals in F3 while MF NPL did not advance in F4. What about those results last weekend make it unreasonable to rank NJCSA ahead of MF NPL?
Agree based on common opponents at u14 and comparing results would have to rank not only NJCSA but Galaxy as better than MatchFit NPL.GotSoccer Guy can you post comparison of results for Galaxy, NJCSA and MF NPL at u14.
Congratulations to the Wildcats for a good showing in Bethesda. Match fit didn't have the greatest weekend but I would say they are having a great season. They kept every game close this year, tied Boston Breakers who beat them 6-1 last season, and beat several teams this season who beat them last year. They had plenty of opportunities but are having trouble finishing. They can play with anyone at this point and are definitely moving in the right direction.
I think that Galaxy is a good team and can play well at times. But didn't they lose during the Mid-Atlantic Cup to FC Revolution? FC Revolution is a PAGS team that won all of two games and finished seventh in PAGS play. Just way to many bad losses that don't balance out the good wins. As far as AJAX ad MF-NPL, can't even see either of those teams in the top five, especially after Bethesda showing (and getting to F3 finals does not make you a top five). An easy for these two teams to get five wins is to play each other ten times, then argue over who's first or second.
based on the point distribution of Bethesda, the top 3 flight were not that far off from each other.Potamac-9000Chesapeake-9500 *that's interestingPatriot-8000Guess the 1st flight wasn't all that everyone is building it up to be.
Last season The Breakers had a very good striker who did most of their scoring. She now plays for NEFC. I believe match fit had some key injuries for that game also. Not saying bench players didn't play well, they did, just a fact bench wasn't as deep as it could be. I think that game was 1-1 at halftime and breakers scored four goals in the last 10 minutes. To me,late goals are very telling. Most of the top ECNL teams are very close this season. Now we get to shuffle the deck next year. Cheers
MF NPL having a great year even without 6 impact players due injuries
Really, injuries, can I use that to explain our sub-par fall season? Better yet, bad officiating, or better yet, new coach, or better yet, new players, or even better yet, bad luck....
Use whatever excuse you like, that's why they call it your opinion
Did Match Fit NPL get some HS players back for the Bethesda and Mass trips? Pretty good show up north vs Breakers and Stars (NPL)
You're talking about tournament play where anything goes as far as a roster... Please stop.In nobody's twisted logic can anyone with a clue say NJCSA, TSF or Galaxy would beat Ajax, Dragons, or MF NPL even on a bad day for PDA or MF?You should be embarrassed by even suggesting it.
Mr Absolute, and cranberry?Actually, its brilliantly juvenile at its core, let’s see how many react...
Ajax, Dragons and MF NPL have taken the quickest nose dive towards crash and burn that I've seen in awhile. I don't blame you for trying to keep them in the conversation, but the truth hurts. Not even contenders anymore.They are B level at Best. Sorry.
9:30 AMYou are way way off, pal.Enjoy the holidays.
9:49 Their plans for an inside job on the club, were transparent all along, they fooled no one with their treachery and now went too far with their disloyalty at Bethesda.
8:10 amEYE TEST would have told you that first and second brackets at Bethesda were nowhere near identicalCheers.
Hahaha, that's the stupidest post! Ha ha ha ha
There were 6 ECNL teams in 12 team F1 at Bethesda.Plus some of the best non-ECNL Teams in the Region and you are saying YMS, Penn Fusion NPL and SJEB in F2 were comparable? The only reason the GS points were similar is the ECNL Teams as we know don't play enough events that provide opportunities for GS points, FCV and Penn Fusion ECNL Teams being the exceptions.Flight 1 and 2 competitve levels were not even close.
whatever you say EYE TEST HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
9:56 PDA made it's line in the sand when they took down their tournament from GS stripping all the winners of their GS points awarded by GS- I don't think they care and either does MF as clubs. They have their leagues and the teams are at the showcase event age where results don't matter at the events it's all about playing all the kids at least 50% of the games -they will get into every event and give all their rostered players an opportunity to be seen by the coaches win or lose. They play for their ECNL and NPL national titles to win the showcase events are just that player showcasesGS 4 Life
9:56 Don't be sorry, you would have to be completely dillusional to suggest that the previous post was wrong. 2nd tier LOL obviously your kid couldn't make PDA or MF. Jealousy is apparent. Sorry for your convoluted thought process.If anyone watched PDA or MF they would have seen great 1st touches, accurate passing, and far superior footwork than any of the other clubs mentioned. Please stop with the 2nd tier stuff, you're embarrassing yourself.
ZZZZZZZZZZZ!Soooo incredibly old and boring.
I would think players playing WELL in showcases, even if you are not trying to win, would be a goal of a top club.And playing WELL would often lead to wins.Not such a separation when you think about it. Kids are out there competing, showcasing their skills vs the players from other clubs, who are ALSO showcasing.Players in the showcase are also pushing to get more playing time. Whty are you painting a "showcase" as being a non compete situation? Its absurd.
Don't misunderstand what I'm saying the 18 girls on a game day roster are playing to win - all 18 are playing a min of 50% of the game at the ECNL clubs. Are the teams playing them doing the same or are they trying to win by playing with a short bench like the W is going to help the players? Playing well is going to help the players the college coaches won't care who wins if they are looking for a CB, the coach cares the parents care the players care but the college coaches could give a rats ass who wins, they have a need and they are looking to fill that need regardless of who wins.NJ NPL teams that are all in the same boat some just play less gamesPDA Ajax (play 24 league games)PDA Dragons (play 24 league games)MF NPL (play 24 games)NJ Crush FC NPL-01 (16 league games)STA NPL-01 (16 league games)Match Fit Academy NPL-01 (16 league games)Princeton SA NPL-01 (16 league games)NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01 (16 league games)JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL (6 league games)NJCSA ELITE (6 league games)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (6 league games)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (6 league games)FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (6 league games)SJEB '01G NPL (6 league games)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREY (6 league games)Penn Fusion NPLCFC Delco NPLFC Bucks NPLLEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS All these teams are playing for the same title.
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Can you post all of the teams in Region 1 Champions League?
11:33 Excellent post - thank you for sharing.
Never mind Bethesda. In the exciting world of PAGS playoffs, Penn United grabbed a 1-0 victory over FC Revolution. In the process of this great victory, the PU coach was red carded for swearing at the ref, gave the FC Rev parents the finger and tried to fight one of them. Second red card in a month for the Penn United coach. Heard he is a very good coach, but would this be what you would want your daughter to deal with on a regular basis.November 15, 2015 at 5:23 PMI was just told about this blog last night. Unfortunately, the person posting the above information is incorrect. The PU coach did not give anyone the finger. He did not swear at the referee. The FC revolution parent approached the coach in the parking and threatened to hit him right AFTER that same parent threatened to punch a 16 year boy in the face. The person posting neglected to say that the PU coach was asked to leave after numerous fouls were not called. The last being that a PU player was placed in a choke hold and lifted off her feet by an FC revoultion player. The poor girl could not breath and had to come off the field. That did not draw a card or a warning. Would I want a coach like that coaching my daughter? The answer is absolutely. I appreciate any coach who will stick up for his players and protect them from abusive players and the referees who show up to collect their cash, refuse to control the game, allow the dangerous play to escalate, and could care less if any child gets hurt. I would hope any coach would question the referee if they witnessed any player being choked on a soccer field during a game. If they get carded and kicked out because of it... so what? The bottom line is the coach spoke up because of the dangerous level of play.
11:33 Problem with your ridiculous post is that there are NO COLLEGE COACHES watching at U14.Showcasing starts next year at U15. That is why the older age groups who are being showcased only play 1 game per day so everyone is fresh and at their best for each game. And everyone plays their subs at this age and level or they wouldn't put them on the team so what kind of excuse is that. You guys just can't admit when you are outplayed.Your players and coaches tried their best and your ECNL Team was shut out twice and didn't advance. And your NPL Team that you sold as "separating themselves from the other teams at the Non-ECNL clubs" showed they are nothing but another B level Team from NE-NPL. And no more than middle of the pack in that sub standard league.
12:46 - Were you at the game? Anyone that was there knows that is a lie. The below is the truth:In the process of this great victory, the PU coach was red carded for swearing at the ref, gave the FC Rev parents the finger and tried to fight one of them. Second red card in a month for the Penn United coach. Heard he is a very good coach, but would this be what you would want your daughter to deal with on a regular basis.Before you ask, yes I was there.
@12:46, referee's have been terrible this season, at tournaments etc. It seems as if they do not know rules and things like that. keep that in mind with everything we talk about. I cannot believe the lack of calls in certain games and the calls in other games. And the lack of knowledge of the game is incredible. On continuous serious note: 1 - do refs get periodic eye exams, required to? 2 - Are refs re-trained, up-trained, whatever you want to call it, or did they learn at 25 and now 45 with no up/re- training. 3 - Are refs ever watched by a boss? Watched and critiqued at all during real matches? all of those would solve tons of problems, it takes money, I get it, but their is so much money at this point in youth soccer it is sickening, plenty to go around to fix this horrific issue. You all have to understand this is a serious, serious issue at this level. At U11, U12 MOSA etc. who gives a f*** but now it has changed
@ 12:46Ask your daughter how the coach "motivates" them to play. I wouldn't want my daughter playing for that coach despite your fairy tale story. I have seen him in action and he is verbally abusive to the team. I was a witness to it so don't try and act like I am providing info passed on by my third cousins long lost twin sisters aunt from another marriage.
At U14 coaches are reaching out, my kid has communicated with 2 so far and I am very aware of one being offered a spot at another school. Being at the right club matters!
1:31 and your point is what exactly? at U14 ABC is the best team but at u15 it doesn't matter?No one is saying anything or at least i'm not saying what you think i'm saying. My post is simple - I want my kid on a team that plays meaningful league games (why I added the (NPL and RPL teams) and then showcases their players (ALL). No you can take that post how ever you want. If my kid was on a B team playing NPL games to qualify for a national Event and play team like NEFC, NJ Wildcats and STA to name a few I'll take it any day of the week. At U14 my kid is not a NT level player and if the coaches think she is not an ECNL level player I would be happy with NPL.Answer me this one question -why would a B team be in F1 if they weren't good?
There are no college coaches watching (for the purposes of scouting for college) ANY U14 players. You are a moron in you think otherwise or you are getting sold by one of the expert coaching your kid. A U14 player has at least 4 more years of high school soccer. College coaches at most are looking at next year's class and maybe one beyond. THEY CAN'T EVEN BE SURE THEY WILL EVEN HAVE THE JOB IN 4 YEARS.Further, they can't make any commitments of any kind to any U14 player. It is against the NCAA rule and against the stated and written policies that exist within the athletic departments of most colleges. No coach that you'd want to play for would risk their job and NCAA sanctions on a commitment, non-binding I might add, on a player who just reached puberty. You are simply a moron to believe this. Could a college coach say to a kid, "Hey, based on what I see and in a few years and if I'm still coaching at XYZ U., I'd love for you to wear our colors." Possibly.Sounds like the kind of stuff a place like MF is selling.
2:02 what is your beef exactly?I want my kid playing on a team that plays NPL, RPL, National League or ECNL and I want this same team playing showcase events to showcase their players min 50% of the game regardless of their age who they are playing and who may or may not be at the event. Why am I being sold anything if this is what I want. If it's not like this I know where the door is. What are you selling exactly?
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1:59 they were obviously misflighted in F1.I beleive the same thing happened at jeff Cup 2 years ago when they were misflighted in F1 and got outscored 10-0 and blown out all 3 games.They got the beneift of the doubt becasue of club affiliation but performance eventually trumps that as you have to perform in those flights at U13-U14 to be in them when it counts at U15 and up.Would be shocked if you see them in F1 at Jeff Cup this March.
2:15 help us all out here. Do you have a daughter or a pony?The only thing that is being showcased at U14 is your bill fold. And it is shown in a brilliant light as the notes float out of yours and into theirs.Nayyyyyyyy...Nayyyyyyyyy
1:51 - So were you there? I see you are from WV getting the info from your third cousins long lost twin sisters aunt from another marriage. That is a long was to go to watch a PAGS game but we are talking PAGS .. My daughter doesn't play for PU so not sure if she could tell me how he movtitates them. The only U14 girls that are getting any kind of looks from college are playing on older teams and/or on a YNT. There are U14's out there that are verbally committed but 95% fall into the categories above
2;25 Big sister gets top billing at Jefferson Cup and I agree they were mis-flighted at Bethesda - All I'm saying is that they are a B team always have been a B team and played in F1 multiple times, that's not on accident. So when someone is trying to make a point by using "B" team as a negative - well I can't let that go if the facts don't support the claim.
Ajax is AStorm is ELITEDifferent way to look at it. Keeps Ajax lumped in with the best of the NPL, on an A level.Do some non ECNLs ever jusmp to ELITE? Sure, we see it with NEFCDo some ECNLs have questions to answer on why they do not appear more elite? Yes sir. Indeed at times they do. As you would thinkt he ECNL designation wouyld make it easier to attract families. Something is amiss at some of these places.
Storm not going to Jeff Cup and you are delusional if you thinkDragons are making F1.And if by some miracle they do it wil be a long weekend for Dragons girls.That team has clearly fallen back. they are not even as good as Ajax this year looking at their results.
You, 228, are a nut. I am not the same poster whose kid is talking to coaches. However, there are several 2019 kids committed already. The process is a dance and it happens over at least the course of several months. Those 2019 were contacted when they were u14 eighth graders. Sorry your kid isn't getting blue chip interest but others are and all your garbage screaming otherwise doesn't hold up to the facts. The infamous NYTimes article further supports that eighth graders are being courted. You are way behind the times. The early recruiting is accelerating.
Softball freshman gave a verbal last yearWhy couldnt it happen in soccer?
8th graders are being recruited in the revenue sports where getting the kid for instance who plays hoops at LSU changes your program and puts 10,000 butts in seats.And yes, I'm sure you have one kid who plays soccer that is a true standout at the international level and who has been touted by colleges and that becomes your as per normal. You are a clown. A sucker. And you are a shill.Do this. No kids names. Just colleges. Which college has made an offer to an 8th grader in girls soccer? Fail to answer and prove my point. Provide the name and I will call that coach and ask him/her to tell me about the 2020 and 2019 recruiting class and the scholarships already offered.I bet that there will not by any names given.
Verbals are nothing. Written is the only thing that matters. Don't get that, you da fool brotha.
2:40 who said anything about Dragons? and I would agree with your post results say they are not as good. But since you brought them up I will be their voice for this post - they are still the league defending league champion that made it all the way to the NPL Semi-Finals and lost to NEFC 4-0 that would be something NJ Wildcats NPL and STA NPL can't say they did, not only did Dragons beat them during the season h2h but also advanced further at the Finals. They can beat their drum until there is a new league champion, I think they earned it.PS. You sure Storm isn't going to Jefferson Cup? I think they are and I think they will have top billing like I said - Ajax will be F2 like last year and Dragons will be F3 unless they are in the same flight.3:16 what's with the name calling you my friend are the only shill on this board.
Did anyone get a training center combine invite yet?
Never said different 3:17But I will say this -MOST verbals lead to the eventual signing
In speaking with the Penn United parents after our game against them, all them said that their daughters love the coach. I do think he is an excellent tactical coach and can get more from his roster than some other coaches. How he screams and yells at his own players and whether its appropriate or not is entirely up to the parents of those players. But his behavior towards refs and his lack of respect towards other teams is an issue that should not be condoned by anyone, especially Penn United parents. In the last game that Penn United played PL, a game which PL had won, but a game in which Penn United played extremely hard right up to the end. A PL parent in passing said "good game coach, your girls played hard", the response from the PU coach was "you only won because your team has more athletes". Even if the coaches statement was true, anyone with any class would not make it. I was not at the PU/FC Rev game, but every person I spoke with described the PU coach as the aggressor, not just towards the refs, but towards the FC parents also. I do agree that sometimes a coach has to step out and even take a card if its to protect his players, but Coach Costa is renown for this display at almost every game that his team is not dominating. Coaches are often teaching more than just soccer, life lessons are often taught during the development of these players. Would you want your daughter to treat people in the same manner? Your defense of Coach Costa is noble, but let make sure who is the common denominator in each of the situations that have come up during the Penn United games.PL Parent
3:16Of course they cant offer scholarships at these agesDont tell us something we already knowA verbal commitment is non binding but occasionally occurs at young ages (no, parents - dont freak if you havent been "noticed" yet). And coaches accept the verbals for what they are - non binding displays of extreme interest that will most times lead to an offer of scholarship and an acceptance
3:19expand on that. What's the training center invite all about?We didnt - but did get our usual invite to Thanksgiving dinnerthanks
The only players on the college coaches radar at U14 are the freshmen, and they are on the radar from US Youth National and Regional Camps.If you haven't noticed their are no college coaches at the U14 tournament games yet.
3:18 Please stop touting Dragons accomplishments at U13 as they have a much different roster with losing 4 players to Storm and are not nearly the same team as last year.
@3:55 They are not the same team, but they're head and shoulders above NJCSA, TSF or Galaxy, and someone here had the audacity to think that any of those teams could ever beat the Dragons H2H.And almost any player on any of those other teams would jump to be the PDA Dragons... I am not a PDA parent.
3:26 you are full of beans and you know it. There is no evidence that there are lots of verbals made to 14 year olds nor any evidence that were there any let alone a lot that they lead to signings. You are delusional.I agree with the other poster. Name one college giving verbals to 14 year olds. One! Get ready for silence.
2019 Commitments per Top Drawer Soccer: Again these are most likely Verbal only a same if you filter 2018's. http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/search/?query=&genderId=f&graduationYear=2019&positionId=0&playerRating=&stateId=All&firstCharName=&pageNo=0&area=commitments
409 Thx for the Link, seems like many of you naysayer's have been proven wrong. Of many of those girls are NT quality and on ECNL clubs I notice.
You are correct 3:26. I believe a U15 player from Penn Fusion has already given a verbal to North Carolina (I may be wrong on whether its north or south Carolina). I often wondered if a college would pull back the offer if there is a serious injury, but recently a player from my daughters school blew out her knee and the school did not take away the scholarship offer (says a lot about the school and the coach). To receive such an offer as a U15 player, that player must be incredible driven and talented. Not to mention there must have been some great coaching involved. Those parents must have put a little time in too.PL Parent
So instead of naming just one, he gave you a list. Any chance you can quit acting like a know-it-all now? And if you look, one college has made an offer to a 13 yo.
4:02How is it you know so much about the strengths and weaknesses of NJCSA, Galaxy and TSF?Dragons? Well, one win in 3rd flight at Stars is better than losing them allLeague play - appears mixed. 7-0-1 start but then lose 4 of 5Any friendlies or other events we dont know about?
We will see about Dragons when they step out at jeff Cup.Not expecting much different from Ajax showing at Bethesda.
4:14 You must be the schlmiel to the other guy schlamazel. Are you that dumb to use the TopDrawer site to validate your claim about "commitments"???There is no vetting or oversight on TD. You can write whatever you want. That's not a confirmed commitment from anyone to anyone by anyone. And go see for yourself...of the 7 kids shown and not one of them is 5 stars. One has no stars. Most have 3 stars. You really think that a college coach is going to give a meaningful and contractually binding commitment to a 14 year old 3 out of 5 star kid? Are you that soft in the head?Try this as I just did. Call up any of those coaches that allegedly gave commitments and ask them yourself. I called 3. Got one on the phone. I asked 2 questions: #1) I have a top notch U14 player who would like to play for your school and is eager to get a commitment right now. If you liked her enough after rating her, would you commit. The coach was heard belly laughing before offering a resounding no. #2) Have you ever made a firm and binding commitment to any players as early as U14. Answer: No. Not allowed. The coach then asked me why the questions: I said there are some NJ parents who are running their mouths about how showcase tournaments are necessary at U14 so that their kid can get looks and commitments. The coach said 2 things: 1 That's NJ soccer for you and 2. Showcase events are 90% money grabs. Most coaches rely on trusted sources and seeing the player play when the player does not know the coach is there. Interesting point made is that players play differently at showcases and in most cases not for the better feeling as if they have to perform rather than play.Do your homework people and stop listening to the dummies.
More for dummieville.Go to PennFusion web site. They have a scrolling news window with the 10 most important and gee whiz things going on at PF. No mention of UNC commitment to a U15 player.They also have an entire link right on the tool bar "College News" where they highlight all of the PF players who were placed via PF. And funny enough, know announcement that a U15 player has signed with or received a commitment from UNC or USC.Hmmmm...you think they would keep that a secret?What a maroon!
3:28 Your daughter has to currently receive US training center invitations for an opportunity to be invited to the regional combine being held in December.
Oh there it is. More from the misleading file. This topic is about college commitments for U14 player 80% of which are 8th graders. The girl shown committing to UNC is a 10th GRADER. You think there's a difference between 8th grade and 10th grade??So you have a dummy here playing up the importance of showcases for 8th graders who then get commitments while in 8th grade using as an example a girl in 10th grade.
She is not verbally committed yet.
My guess is UNC and said girl were in contact prior to 10th grade seasonDorrance has said he doesnt like to start the recruiting process this young but feels he needs to to keep up with the comp. Do a web search - you may find the pieceCheers, pal. Take a pill or something.
Enough with the college talk at this age. NO college coach is going to give any type of commitment, verbal, written, blood whatever. The truth is coming out with most of you. You are pushing and pushing your daughter for the all mighty dollar. It is so sad how these girls are pushed so hard so their parents can get tuition money back. I would bet that more than half of your daughters do not want to play college ball. Of that number another 50% will not make a college team. You can give me all of the numbers you want for how many of the top teams placed girls into D1 schools, whatever. I want to see the numbers that show how many played all 4 years of college.
Oh there are plenty of 2016 Sr.s/2017 Jr's Graduates with zero to 3 stars committed per Top Drawer link that was sent so that stars are meaningful for their ranking but is not always the case for recruitment and commitments. Please go back and filter by 2016/2017 graduating years. At least someone was smart enough to provide some proof and I'm not a NJ parent. Again it's some proof and if you TDS is not credible go ahead and contact them.
The top girls will start getting commitments before their Sophmore soccer season. That means that they are watching the Freshman girls play now. And as you know, there are Freshman U14 girls.
And the best of the rest commit before their Junior year. And therefore there are Sophmore U15 girls
534 & 536 Totally agree the top players are actually being looked at now at U14(8th/Fresh) keeping tabs on them until Sophomore year then most likely a verbal offer will be made, and letter will be signed Jr. year. If you read some of the stories of the 2018 class on TDS you can see proof is within the pudding. And for the guy that says he called the coaches I'm sure they picked right away I guess you have a direct bat line to them. LOL
Coaches phone numbers available on the web site either next to their bio or within the directory of contacts withing the athletic department. But why call the actual coaches when you can listen to the resident Einsteins on this blog. No bat phone required.
I like the fact that you called me a maroon and not a moron!! I'm a big bugs bunny fan too. Sorry your website search was not productive and gave you the info you hoped. By the way, why are you so angry all the time? To the poster that said crazed parents are pushing their kids to hard. I think you are describing a very small group of parents, and you are right that it would result in pushing a player right out of playing soccer. But if your daughter asked you to find her a place where she would be challenged and she loved what she is doing, would you say no? I'm not sure we can criticize the parents here about wanting the best for their daughter, when we know nothing about the relationship or the drive their daughter may have. If your daughter wants to have fun and play soccer with friends, whose to criticize that either?PL Parent
Thanks for predicting our kids' futures, 5:23Now STFU :)For the record - I dont know yet if my daughter will/wants to play collegiate soccer but we do know where she would like to attend school. Shouldnt be the other way around, as you know - should pick the school for the SCHOOL, mot the athletics - though if a full ride came along its tough to pass on. Lets face it - none of us is that rich.Yes, lets discuss something else
Good idea. Let me ask a question maybe you smart fellas can answer. Why did governing bodies of US Soccer decide to put out a mandate that youth soccer players should not be heading balls at practice, but it would still be allowed during games? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Is there a common sense issue that I am missing here?
The player profiles is an eighth grader:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/sports/committing-to-play-for-a-college-then-starting-9th-grade.html?referer=Also there is a spreadsheet that is accepted as the most accurate reflection of committments for women's soccer. It is incomplete but the information, though entered most often by a parent is overwhelmingly accurate. I have a daughter in one of the older age groups and we live in PA. The Penn Fusion 2018 was being wss being tracked by many schools and made many visits in her freshman year. She began talking to coaches as an eighth grader she has been top drawer #1 and is still top 10. There are at least 4 PF 2018 that are committed. The spreadsheet is accurate for all of them. 2 have been to national camp. The entire pen fusion portion of the spreadsheet is accurate. If you go on the website and click on teams they have committments listed for the players. I do t know how often they update the web pages: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AriynKqmGsRwdGUyR1ZrSFFUbHFZblNCMnBNZnNqc1E&f=true&noheader=true&gid=0http://pennfusion.org/girls/99GIRLS/index_E.htmlAnd 2 of the 2018 are playing 98 that are committed. The 2 national players. My child started talking to coaches in the winter of her 9th grade year. I think this is pretty typical timeline for good but not great players.
I personally know of U14 players who have had contact with coaches from big schools, ACC, SEC, in these cases. No offers, but relationship building with the kids and parents.
Where does Penn Fusion ECNL do their training?
wow 7:05AM, all should read this, particularly this quote “In women’s soccer, there are more scholarships than there are good players,” said Peter Albright, the coach at Richmond and a regular critic of early recruiting. “In men’s sports, it’s the opposite.”Rare we hear this, typically I hear their is nothing out there, it is a pipe dream. This is a profound statement and great news for our daughters.
That article is also almost 2 years old(1/2014) and it was written when the girl was in HS-Sophomore as she is a Jr. now per Top Drawer Soccer. So it's a little misleading as it states as an 8th grader but truly she must of been a Sophomore last year. Plus why is the NY Times writing something about a girl in Texas I know there are rare occasions out there but truly it's the less than 1% change a girl truly commits and knows what to do in 8th grade / Freshman year.
What's misleading about this 2 year old article is that it understates the current early recruiting climate. This trend of early recruiting is accelerating greatly. The PF 2018 UNC committ was the number one topdrawer recruit when the 2018s were first listed and she only committed as the first UNC committ, and one of the very first if not first 2018, in the winter of her freshman year. She had been to many visits to colleges in the summer between 8th and 9th and in the fall of ninth. Now there are 2019s already committed which means they likely started the process about 6 months earlier!. Big soccer has a thread on the trends in early recruiting and their stats are alarming. Personally, I would like the NCAA to remove the loopholes and disallow any contact at all before 9/1 of the players junior year.
1053 your math is incorrect. It was written when she was a freahman 1/14 would be 2 grades ago. Now a junior, then a freshman...
12:46 - Were you at the game? Anyone that was there knows that is a lie. The below is the truth:In the process of this great victory, the PU coach was red carded for swearing at the ref, gave the FC Rev parents the finger and tried to fight one of them. Second red card in a month for the Penn United coach. Heard he is a very good coach, but would this be what you would want your daughter to deal with on a regular basis.Before you ask, yes I was there. November 24, 2015 at 1:43 PM I was there as well. I am not creating a fairy tale. Only speaking the truth. If Kosta was such a terrible person towards those kids, they would not be playing for him. He also would not be coaching for as long as he has. Easy to judge when you are on the outside looking in. You may have a problem with the PU coach, but those of us that witnessed the Revolution parent yelling the F word and threatening to punch a 16 year old kid in the parking lot during the game has other problems to worry about. Too bad several young children got to witness that event. Why were the Revolution parents in the parking lot during the game anyway when the PU coach was getting into his car to leave? Maybe if the parents had been watching the game, they would have an accurate assessment of what really did take place during the game. Happy Thanksgiving!
WowMuch more info neededYou were there? Lets hear it all. Why was the parent yelling threats at the 16 year old? Was it a player's brother?What got the official to issue a red card? Did it have anything to do with the parent or was that separate?
Yes the recruitment process is starting earlier and earlier each year and with the Title XI in place of making sure girls have equal amount of scholarship money handed out to boys it makes it simple for coaches to figure how much they can hand out come graduating year. Another Freshman committed where is the loud mouth guy who keeps negating and calling coaches for proof that recruiting doesn't start at U14. Hello are you still on here or did you take your holiday break already. LOLhttp://www.topdrawersoccer.com/high-school-soccer-article/girls-commitments:-heading-east_aid38446?utm_source=TopDrawerSoccer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9d2b4cc86d-Genera_11_25_1511_25_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8340315a79-9d2b4cc86d-31353657
Just got this emai: http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/high-school-soccer-article/girls-commitments:-heading-east_aid38446?utm_source=TopDrawerSoccer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9d2b4cc86d-Genera_11_25_1511_25_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8340315a79-9d2b4cc86d-31345341
Interesting as this link below at TDS.com gives you by state how many Sophomore's already committed to D1. I count 142 girls graduating 2018 committed already so someone explain to me how colleges are doing this prior to the girls mid Jr. year. Can someone give me the loopholes how girls can make official visits and so on. This is obscene we are seeing many girls choose a school before even taking their SAT's. lolhttp://www.topdrawersoccer.com/commitments/state/women/2018
Maycee Bell, Defender, Sporting Blue Valley AcademyIMG Academy 150: #4 Class: 2019 Commitment: North Carolina While North Carolina’s 2015 season came to an end last week, another top player recently committed to join the program. High school freshman Maycee Bell, a defensive standout for Sporting Blue Valley, is the second player to commit to join the program in 2019. “After visiting UNC, I just knew that I was supposed to be a Tar Heel,” Bell told TopDrawerSoccer. “The opportunity to be a part of the history and tradition that UNC women’s soccer offers is something that I have always dreamed of." Bell, who recently began the conversion from playing up front to a center back role, immediately hit it off with Head Coach Anson Dorrance and the rest of his staff. Maycee Bell “I believe that the coaches at UNC know me very well as a player and what my long term goals are and will help develop me to be the best player I can be,” she said. “I am excited to be able to play with some of the amazing players that have already committed there as well.” A fixture in U.S. youth national team camps this year, top Division I programs around the country began recruiting Bell. Playing for Dorrance was obviously a big part of her decision. “To have the opportunity to play for a coaching legend like Coach Dorrance and a program that has won so many national championships and sent numerous players to the full national team is hard to pass up,” she said. “I believe that all the coaches along with the competitive environment that is part of the culture at UNC will help me to reach my goals and develop me into my full potential.” The North Carolina location also factored in to her choice. “Chapel Hill is beautiful,” Bell said. “UNC has everything I need academically and athletically to be successful. I am so excited for the new soccer facilities that will be completed by the time I arrive at the University. Their new facilities will be one of the best in the country.”
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