Thursday, January 23, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

If a tree falls in the forest...

Anonymous said...

Also the contacts and relationships your club coach has with college coaches is very important.
If he or she has sent many successful players to D1 programs over ma y years than his recommendation is highly considered and they will get a coach out to see that player if they are recommended by that club coach as a player who can play for them and is interested in their school..

Anonymous said...

No 5:26 you are the one who is misinformed.
the very top programs(UNC, Stanford, UCLA, Notre Dame) are recruiting almost exclusively from the youth regional and youth national teams, not just club ball.
For the vast majority of D1 programs, they don't have the time or budgets to just show up at events and wait for the very best players to jump off the field at them by their dominant level of play.
They can't waste their time running after players who may have no interest in their programs or may not be a fit academically.
These coaches from this majority of programs show up to events with a list of players by team, name and number and follow a preset schedule of what teams and players they will watch that is made up before they even get to the field.
this list is made up of players who have already contacted the coaches and made clear their program is on the players short list.
they also already have sent their academic info(GPA, class rank and SAT,etc) and usually the coaches have already viewed a highlight tape provided to them by the player and have usually already talked to their club coach or a coach from another club in the area or their ODP coach and got an independent evaluation of whether the player can actually play at their program from a professional coach.
At that point if still interested the college will send an assistant to view the player with their club team or an ODP event and if still interested the head coach will usually make a trip to see the player play before making an offer if the head coach is sold on the player.
the key is for the player and family to be proactive in researching the schools that are a fit for the player .
Once a short list of 8 to 10 schools who are a fit(usually include 1 or 2 reaches(either academically or soccer level) and 1 or 2 sure things and the rest should be schools that you have a realistic shot at getting into academically and a good shot at playing for based on your playing ability.You need to make sure they offer your intended major and are geographically a fit in distance, size of school and conference.
You should consult your club coach if qualified and/or another experienced soccer professional to help you decide what is realistic for you as a player.
You then need to start contact with the coaches of this school and send your academic info and where you will be playing in club and ODP events along with your team, number, position and schedule for each event.
You can call the soccer coach and if he or she is in and picks up you can speak to them but they cannot return your call so don't get discouraged if you leave a message and they don't call back.
Just showing up to events and hoping a school will notice you and come running after you is not realistic for 99% of club players.

Anonymous said...

11:01 here: also if you have a serious interest in a school consider attending their high school players ID camps.
this is a great way to get in front of the coaches of that school and to show your interest is serious.
Also set up an unofficail visit to the school and contact the coach in advance to see if they will be in the office and if you can make an appointment to come in with your parents and meet in person on campus.
this type of unofficial visit at the players expense is allowed at any age.
Freshmen or fall of sophomore year is best as by the end of sophomore year most of the athletic money available is already promised to others and their recruiting class for your graduation year is complete.

Anonymous said...

Very useful advice for a process that is very confusing and a little scary for those of us parents who will soon be going through this recruiting process for the first time with our child in a couple of short years.
this is obviously not your first rodeo.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Nice Kitty Kitty!

Anonymous said...

College coaches are lazy? Lol. What a crock.

Anonymous said...

6:37. You have no clue what you are in for. This is not a revenue generating sport like football or hoops. The soccer coaches want the easiest possible recruiting process. Yes, they are extremely lazy. The start where the numbers are greater (academies and ecnl) and then they will work there way down. Not sure how you do not see that. But good luck with that.......

Anonymous said...

First off smart guy, don't assume that your "juggling in the driveway Suzie" is the only kid playing on an ECNL team. Second, anyone who makes a sweeping generalization about a profession like you just did is a moron.

Anonymous said...

Thank you 11:01 and 11:06 for the good advice. Breath of fresh air on this blog to get valuable information instead of the continuous bashing of players, coaches and teams. Go away jealous people and get a life. Let your girls do what they love and leave them alone.

Anonymous said...

Long winded kitty v b breaking
Nutty. Kitty will talk you to death. Nutty keeps it short and stupid. Split decision to kitty by default.

Anonymous said...

Dude, please just grow a pair and say what you've got to say about the Wildcats. The kitty stuff is tiresome.

Anonymous said...

Relax kitty. The point is your 2-3 kids that may be able to play at next level will make the jump to ecnl program in a year or two. Then who will be coming to your games to look at your team play. Reality check is all we are saying. Stop getting so defensive.

Anonymous said...

My kid already plays for an ECNL team, you are just boring me to tears.

Anonymous said...

ECNL has been around for what 4 years? It't the be all and end all of youth soccer..

You can slap an ECNL label on a bag of crap and it's still a bag of crap.

Anonymous said...

Bitter boy. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Games at U13 will start in just a few weeks and we will see which teams and players are improving and developing the most.
You are on record as saying Cats have only 2 or 3 players who are good enough to MAYBE some day play at the next level.
We shall see.

Anonymous said...

Just so we're clear, you think a league wherein the following teams play each other 11 times in the fall and 11 times in the spring is crap? If so, could you please back that up with some facts that support your opinion?

East Meadow
Albertson Fury
Connecticut FC
SoccerPlus CT
Scorpions SC
FC Stars of Mass
Penn Fusion
FC Bucks
FC DELCO
Match-Fit Academy
PDA
World Class

Anonymous said...

Still no movement on the Spirit brackets. I can't believe they're going to leave Ajax out and Pipeline in. If they leave Pipeline and a depleted Rage team in Bracket C, I think you can write Penn Fusion into the semis in ink. Brackets B and D look the toughest.

Girls U13
Championship
Bracket A
CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)

Bracket B
FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)
GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)

Bracket C
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)

Bracket D
CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)

Elite
Bracket A
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)
COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE)

Bracket B
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)

Bracket C
ISA 01 NPL (NYE)
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)

Bracket D
VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)

Anonymous said...

I was referring to the Club with the label, not the league.

Anonymous said...

Let's use GS to see how the ECNL Northeast division stacks up with the National rank.

Unfortunately, the same will happen to these teams as it did with the olders, they will stop playing in many tournaments - since they will play 20+ league games plus ECNL Post season. Not a lot of room to get GS points (maybe a few events) to maintain these high ranks.

#1 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL
#7 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM
#11 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
#15 FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY
#20 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL
#32 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
#60 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL
#64 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL
#70 CFC WEST ORANGE
#84 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL
#332 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01
#633 FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL

Anonymous said...

10:14 I agree with you on Spirit, I'm sure that will change or maybe we have a Delco vs PDA feud?

Anonymous said...

Speaking of flights changing 1st Division Central
is starting to look good as well, now they just need to get FSA in. Can't wait to see the finished product and how this MF team does is this their C team or USYSA team?

NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)
FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)
NJCSA ELITE (NJ)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ)

Anonymous said...

I agree ECNL a good option for exposure by the way.
Never said otherwise.
But I am saying normally college coaches come to watch players who have already shown interest in their schools and programs,
and they will go watch them at whatever of the showcases they play in after seeing tape and/or getting a professional evaluation/recommendation from a club or odp coach, especially if they know that coach from previous teams he or she has coached and players he or she has sent on to college or the college coach has recruited in the past years. Point is if the player can play at a high D1 level, they are a well known player by many of the area's college coaches already through club and ODP, etc.
The point being missed is that there is not much random identification and recruiting by college coaches.
That is more likely if you are a top 50 player in the country(youth regional or youth national teams and all of the top 5 or so college programs are recruiting you)
It is much more often the college coaches following up on the players who have contacted them and shown a real interest in that college.
the most important thing to do as a player and family is to be proactive and do your research.
Make sure that coach knows you have a real interest in their school and program by making contact and staying in regular contact(email,phone, letters of recommendation and resume, academic profile updated regularly,your upcoming club and ODP schedules, getting out to see the college play)and by making an unofficial visit and meeting the coach and if possible attending the high school age players ID camps at some of your top choices to get yourself right in front of the coaches and to develop a bit of a relationship.
And make sure you are a fit academically. Remember most colleges admission departments only allow a coach 1 or at most 2 players per year to be considered who are below the level needed to be accepted academically if they were a non-athlete.
at many schools these players are called "chips" and are considered for admission through something like a probationary admissions program and they are given extra academic support and given a chance to show they can succeed academically.
Not every school allows this and remember these exceptions are usually made only for VERY STRONG players who are considered difference makers for that program and worth the gamble that they may not pan out and stay eligible academically.
No coach wants to recruit a player and especially waste precious athletic scholarship money on a player who may not remain eligible.
Again suggesting you try and pick mostly schools for your short list that you are at least borderline a fit for in your academic profile.
The most common mistake is players and their families not being realistic in their expectations of what level is a fit for their daughters as well as having unrealistic expectations of the amount of scholarship money that will be offered to their daughter out of high school.

Anonymous said...

Again good advice across the board.
Not quite sure the motive for attacking a person for passing along valuable info on a process that is going to be very important to all of us parents very soon.

Anonymous said...

Sound advice, thanks!

Anonymous said...

Looks like IGFA got relegated.

Anonymous said...

Relegated to what, AYSO?

Anonymous said...

2nd division edp

Anonymous said...

or maybe they put them in North..

Anonymous said...

10:44 - When is to early to reach out? Is it ever to early?

What do you do, if you don't believe in ODP? My daughter has played for two years and I think it's a waste of time, she will not be trying out this year. I'm not sure how players showcase their talents unless if you are a forward or a goalie. Most players hold the ball way to long ( i guess they are showing they can dribble) and or just kick the ball to open space (I guess they are showing they can win a ball and then play it forward) and hope someone with the same color jersey runs on to it. I am sad that these players are supposed to be the best and by now should know how to play the game. And what saddens me even more is that these players get looks based on coach recommendations. It wouldn't surprise me if they push their player into the region pools as well (wouldn't know because I didn't send my kid to RI)

I guess my kid will be a step behind when it comes to her soccer resume.

Anonymous said...

Too many of the so called "Top Players" hold the ball too long. you think 6-8 touches are going to be available in a high level game. I really don't understand how those are the players being recommended. Any offensive attack is brought to a screaching hault so Suzie can display foot skills while the other 5 or 6 girls are flat footed watching. It is disturbing.

Anonymous said...

11:32, if you can afford it, I'd keep your kid in ODP. I agree with all you say, and I ultimately think TIP and ID2 will be better training options than ODP. But as you note at the end of your post, coaches do still like to see ODP on a resume.

I'm no expert, but because ODP is so watered down (100 taken kids at both U12 and U13; 50 at U14), it almost is considered a baseline. It doesn't make you special to have it, but if you don't have it, it raises some questions. Granted, these are answerable questions, but why raise questions if you can avoid it?

I'd say that making state ODP is the baseline, and making regional pool is something that sets players apart. Years ago simply making state ODP set a player apart, because they only took about 24 players.

And FWIW, my kid did not make the regional pool, but she did get promoted to the ID field for a day or so, and was one of only about five players from her state to get on the ID field. As her coach was not there, she must've gotten that far based on merit. So it's not ALL politics at regional camp. If your daughter liked it, I'd stick with it.

Anonymous said...

Where are you finding the EDP brackets published? The website doesn't appear to have been updated since the Spring from what I see.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

11:46 Thanks.

That's my problem, my kid said she doesn't want to play for ODP - she's a midfielder and didn't get a chance to touch the ball much and felt like all she was doing was running back and forth supporting instead of playing.

I'm not worried about her making an ODP state team, regional well that depends on her time on the field for that period of time. She's a player can use both feet, knows when to pass when not to pass, moves without the ball, supports the Offense and the Defense depending on the roll she is assigned is super fast and has avg size.

I just don't want to do a power move on a 12 year old kid. I have to respect her wish. It's just sad to read your post and while most agree ODP is a waste it's needed for that resume.

This is why I support Leagues that send their teams to a regional/national event. At least US Club Soccer has it's TIP/PDP/id2 ODP programs. These are id programs and you just hope that they id the right type of players and move them up the system. Yes these leagues are closed but they should follow the standards set by the USSF and if they push the right players they look great while if they push along the wrong players I hope the are punished. I can't speak on this process.

Any way thanks for the response.

Anonymous said...

12:14 are you asking so you can shut it down?

Anonymous said...

I don't like posting links because when I did or when other posters did those links became disabled shortly after.

It's not finalized because they haven't been published, so I'm sure they can change even more.

Anonymous said...

Can you at least publish all available brackerts? North South Central 1st and 2nd? I'm just curious who's where, who's been added, who left, etc. I know I can wait, but I'd rather just have a peak at how it's all coming together.

Anonymous said...

1st Division North
FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT)
BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)
SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)
ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE (NYE)
TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)
HBC SPARK (NYE)

1st Division Central
JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)
NJCSA ELITE (NJ)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)

1st Division South
STARZ01 (MD)
NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G (MD)
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE)
ESSC/HENLOPEN WHITECAPS (DE)
WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER (NJ)

2nd Division North
INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ)
PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL (NJ)
FSC FOUNDATION SC (CT)
LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE)
SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)
SDFC SAMBA (NJ)

2nd Division Central
ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)
MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)
MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ)
STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOT SHOTS (NYE)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 W (NJ)
WYOMING VALLEY SC (TRAVEL) WVSC '01GIRLS (PAE)
NEW JERSEY RUSH HAMILTON WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ)
PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)

Maps Elite Division
REAL SHORE LAKEWOOD FC CREW (NJ)
PRINCETON SA ATHLETICO (NJ)
EDISON UNITED SA LIGHTNING BOLTS (NJ)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH BLUE (NJ)
THE FOOTBALL OF NJ 01/02 GIRLS (NJ)
PISCATAWAY JAGUARS (NJ)
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
RAGE FC LIBERTY (NJ)

Anonymous said...

11:46 here again.

I must admit, during any kind of tryout I tell my daughter to be just a little bit more selfish in her play. Part of this is a reaction other kids ballhogging, but I also believe it is not enough just to play solid soccer at a tryout, she has to occasionally DO something out there in order to get noticed.

That is why it is much better to have your daughter observed by a college coach while playing with her team. You get more of an accurate representation of the player is all about when they are with their teammates. ODP and the other stuff just encourages kids to show off. Now the good news is that at regional camp many coaches had no problem with calling the kids out on it, and telling them in front of everyone to stop being such ball hogs.

Anonymous said...

Thank you! I agree, I suspect there will be a number of adjustments before the official brackets get published. Plenty on there that doesn't make much sense.

Thanks again.

Anonymous said...

I differ just a little - the only thing I tell my kid is play the game. You can't control what others do or what level they are at, if they don't make the pass - everybody sees it, if they play slow everybody sees that, if they are a ball hog everybody sees that, if you make or don't make the pass everybody sees it, if you don't finish or finish everybody sees that, if you play the ball to the other team everybody sees that, etc...

I tell her you are not playing rec ball anymore you are playing for for the same thing every other kid is playing for. The only thing you can control is who you are on and off the field everything else well sometimes life isn't fair.

Anonymous said...

12:47 I agree - it's preliminary and I'm sure they are shifting them as they get to the age group.

Anonymous said...

All coaches are looking for selfish players at tryouts. Fact

Anonymous said...

You are a dope. FACT.

Anonymous said...

Real Shore and BOCA in EDP play? Well I guess being devils advocate whatever - good for them, give it a shot, they played jags for a couple years with some success/tournaments, but omg.

Anonymous said...

If selfish = willing to take a player on one v one, I agree.

Anonymous said...

I think that's a 3rd division that Boca is in ..

Anonymous said...

That third division is not too bad with MF, Princeton, Jaguars. good for Boca and Real shore

Anonymous said...

No one is saying taking on a player 1v1 - that's a must.

But seeing the field and passing the ball on to a player making a run instead of holding the ball for an extra 2 to 3 touches and what that player isn't open anymore but they showed their dribbling skills. What nobody knows unless if they were watching is that they missed a golden opportunity to put a shot on net. How many times as that happened? How many times has the players supporting the attack make runs support and not get the ball only to spring back on defense in transition because those extra touches more times than not turn into turnovers.

PS. There is nothing wrong with being selfish if you are a forward that's what you get paid to do take the shot or feed the mids so they can feed you back and no in saying not to take on a player 1v1 but there is a time and a place for everything.

Anonymous said...

PS my keyboard and my lack of grammar skills stink

Anonymous said...

that's probably a U10 MF team playing up.. the MF way..

Anonymous said...

2:10 I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!

Anonymous said...

11:01/10:44 Here again-
11:32 I am responding to your question to me -by the way I am not 11:46 who jumped in and answered the question you posed to me, but I don't disagree with what 11:46 said in his answer, which seems to be based on his previous experience with his older daughter.
I agree ODP is absolutely not what it once was and is watered down significantly.
there are a number of other programs as mentioned that can all lead to identification and advancement to the regional and national youth pools so I was using ODP as a catch all but any of these ID Programs can get you the same chance at advancement in the youth regional/national pools as well as to the exposure to training and playing directly for college coaches which participation in these ID Programs provides.
Remember most college coaches, especially young assistants will sign up to be involved in coaching and training the regional and national teams which gives them direct access to these young players and helps greatly in the recruiting process.
I have spoken often to my daughter about this issue and she has told me her position coaching the Regional ODP Teams in Region 2 the last few years has given her a much better feel for who can play for her in the ACC as opposed to watching them play club ball from a folding chair at tournaments.
As I stated previously attending a few ID camps as a high school freshmen and sophomore also gives you this same chance to train and play directly for the college coaches of the schools on your short list. IF you do the research on their websites you will find that many of these college programs offer 1 day ID camps , usually one during winter break and 1 during summer so you can drive up or fly in and spend the day with about 40 other high school prospects(most college programs limit the number of these camps to about 40 attendees to allow the 3 college coaches to do all the training and coaching for the day.
I know that usually you get 2 training sessions, a session with the strength and conditioning staff, a session on the recruiting process and NCAA Clearinghouse eligibility, compliance and clearance issues, and then games in the evenings with each of the 3 college coaches coaching 1 team each. Of course they will also take you and your parents on a tour of their athletic facilities(always part of any unofficial or official visit).
I have referred a number of nj players to these 1 day ID Camps camps and the families told me they learned a great deal in that 1 day about both that particular program and the overall recruiting and college selection process.

Anonymous said...

I'm bored, so please forgive some predictions before the flights are even finalized.

Stars of Mass Tournament
Flight i Premiership Blue
Bracket A
FC STARS OF MASS ECNL
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS

Bracket B
BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
NEW YORK SC G01
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE

Gotta go with an all Mass final for this one: Scorpions over Stars.

Flight ii Premiership White

Bracket A
A2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK
FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON

Bracket B
FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED
ALBERTSON FURY '01
MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPL
PTUSA FC COASTAL IMPACT

In this one I like MF NE (aka NJX) over World Class in the final.

Spirit
Bracket A
CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)

Bracket B
FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)
GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)

Bracket C
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)

Bracket D
CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)

Binghamton over Ukrainians in first semi. Penn Fusion over Wildcats in the second.

Penn Fusion over Binghamton in the final.

Elite
Bracket A
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)
COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE)

Bracket B
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)

Bracket C
ISA 01 NPL (NYE)
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)

Bracket D
VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)

Ajax over PHWM in first semi. ISA over Victory Express in the second.

Ajax over ISA in the final.

Anonymous said...

3:01 thanks

3:04 I'll play along with mine going off the brackets you posted.

Stars of Mass Tournament
EM vs Boston in Final - Boston wins coin flip.
World Class vs MF NPL - World Class wins coin flip

Spirit
Crew Juniors vs GB Select - Crew advance
PennFusion vs NJ Wildcats - PennFusion advance

PennFusion vs NJ Wildcats - PennFusion wins no coin flip

PA Classics vs PDA Ajax - PDA advances
HMMS vs JPS - HMMS advances

PDA vs HMMS wins no coin flip

Anonymous said...

Sorry PennFusion beats Crew Juniors no coin flip.

PS. I am still confused how Pipeline gets nod of Ajax in top flight. Regardless some easy point for them.

Anonymous said...

Is that the WC "A" team in Stars?

Anonymous said...

Yeah. Charlton is the A team. Hamm is the B.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the mighty A-team, in the 2nd flight.


Anonymous said...

charlton probably the best team in the Stars of Mass. They should have beaten Breakers at Delco but had numerous bad breaks. Stars tourney Director did not research these teams.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, evidently EDP didnt count for much

Anonymous said...

Ajacks becoming the new blog braggers. Mooooooove over cats.

Anonymous said...

Dear WC Charlton apologist,

Shut up, and stop moaning.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

go Boca and Real Shore

Anonymous said...

meeeeeeeooooooooooooooooow kitty kitty!

Anonymous said...

Real shore has mike Lyons as coach trainer.

Anonymous said...

(non PDA parent)

PDA Storm have won their bracket at ECLIPSE (Chicago), with consecutive 2-0 wins today. Through to the semifinal. Tuneup game tomorrow, semi 8 AM Sunday - likely vs Cincy (OH) Cup Gold or Tophat Gold (GA)

Teams they beat today were #4 in Ohio South and #1 in Illinois

Congratulations, PDA!

Anonymous said...

A win at Eclipse would be nice for New Jersey respect at this age group.

Is anything else going on local - tournaments or friendlies this weekend?

Anonymous said...

Oooooooooooooooow Nutty nutty

Anonymous said...

Why does PDA have to go all the way to Chicago to play in a tournament, when FC Stars has the best team in the country playing, should that not be the standard that all teams aspire to, to best the #1 team?

Anonymous said...

The Wildcats aren't playing at Stars of Mass.

Are you talking about NJ Crush?

Anonymous said...

Boston Breakers u13 ECNL

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, oh I get it, you are trying to be funny.

Har-har

Anonymous said...

The "area" teams come to the PDA tourney. Heading to Chicago, where teams are more athletic than skilled, gives them more experience with different styles of play.

Anonymous said...

Then why not go to California and play the best teams? The Cal South teams are physical, and skilled.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to PDA Storm team on very impressive showing in Chicago. Can't imagine what this team will look & perform like at mid-season form. They will be scary great. Haven't even started to peak yet with new/newer players contributing quite nicely already.

Anonymous said...

U13 Pre-ECNL Flight
Albertson SC U13 Pre-ECNL
Boston Breakers Academy U13 Pre-ECNL
Connecticut FC U13 Pre-ECNL
Continental FC U13 Pre-ECNL
East Meadow SC U13 Pre-ECNL
FC Bucks U13 Pre-ECNL
FC Stars of Mass U13 Pre-ECNL
FSA FC U13 Pre-ECNL
Match Fit Academy U13 Pre-ECNL
PDA U13 Pre-ECNL
Penn Fusion SA Penn Fusion U13 Pre-ECNL
World Class FC U13 Pre-ECNL

U13 Girls NE NPL Flight
Albertson SC NPL U13
Boston Breakers Academy NPL U13
Connecticut FC NPL U13
Continental FC U13
FC Bucks NPL U13
FC Stars of Mass NPL U13
FSC FC NPL U13
Match Fit Academy NPL U13
PDA North NPL U13
PDA South NPL U13
Penn Fusion SA NPL U13
World Class FC NPL U13

NYCSL NPL
1. Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01
2. Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01
3. Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01
4. Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01
5. New York Rush NPL-01
6. Quickstrike FC NPL-01
7. NJ Crush FC NPL-01
8. New York Soccer Club NPL-01
9. STA NPL-01

New England NPL
Aztec Soccer (MA)
Oakwood SC (CT)
Bayside FC Bolts (RI)
Seacoast United (NH)
Global Premier Soccer (MA)
Yankee United (CT)
New England Futbol Club (MA)

Virginia NPL
Annandale Boys and Girls Club
Churchland SC
Richmond Kickers
Arlington Soccer Association
FC Virginia
Richmond Strikers
Chesapeake United SC
Northern Virginia SC
Virginia Rush
Chesterfield United SC
Prince William Soccer Inc.

EDL NPL - if it's still around, not sure of the lineup google can't help if the info is bad?

FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA NPL
Lehigh Valley United
Maryland Rush
NJ Wildcats
New Jersey Rush
Smithtown Kickers SC
SJEB '01G NPL
TSF Academy 13 Girls

Anonymous said...

EDL NPL teams in below EDP Flight? Any NEW clubs?


1st Division North
TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)

1st Division Central
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)

1st Division South
NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G (MD)

2nd Division North
SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)

2nd Division Central
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)

Anonymous said...

List guy,

Can you make a list of best parents? You know, the kind that don't yell at opposing players, curse the ref. and give dirty stares at other parents, you know normal parents.

Anonymous said...

or is that asking too much?

Anonymous said...

Your post makes you an annoying parent. What team are you with? We can start there.

Anonymous said...

Your post makes you an annoying parent. What team are you with? We can start there.

Anonymous said...

How did Storm do in Chicago?

Anonymous said...

Gotsoccer shows Storm lost 2-0 to Cincy United which happens to be #1 team in region & Ohio.

Anonymous said...

I guess PDA has some more work to do.

Anonymous said...

They have a hell of lot LESS work to do, than say your daughters team, no?

Anonymous said...

Lame attempt by 942 trying to stir the pot. Storm performed quite well this weekend. Team will takeoff with new premier players added to an already stacked team.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, I am an out-of-stater, and I have great respect for PDA Storm and Ajax, both quality teams, and the girls on those teams are on the right path, whatever that might be.

Anonymous said...

10am

I would not say PDA is stacked. They have good training and the girls have bought into thier system.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:49

So PDA worked on losing 2-0 more than my daughters team?

Anonymous said...

12:35, are you really that dense? I am not a PDA Storm parent, but apparently they lost 2-0 to a (very) high level team, one of the top teams in the COUNTRY. Unless your daughters team has done better against that kind of competition you really shouldn't have much to say...and even then it would still make you look like a jackass to attempt to disparage a team for competing at the highest level. Move on.

Anonymous said...

Very high level.. apparently

Anonymous said...

If PDA is stronger then the machine is moving right along as has happened with teams before. My only question is. Is all newer players getting significant playing time?

Anonymous said...

It's VERY expensive..

Anonymous said...

3:09 "My only question is. Is all newer players getting significant playing time?"

It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are the new players getting significant playing time, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.

Anonymous said...

That Storm team is solid. The only issue will be playing time for some. Keeping all happy will be tough.

Anonymous said...

Looking up at these leagues how can you deny that the ECNL and NE NPL leagues are not better competition than the others. Anybody who says otherwise is truly saying it just because they are bitter they are not involved......

Anonymous said...

3:12, time for rehab, your post is nonsensical.


Anonymous said...

NYCSL NPL is supeiror. Do you know how I know this?


Anonymous said...

superior, sorry

Anonymous said...

Well, I will tell you, my dog told me....

Anonymous said...

@ 1:42

Did they lose or not?

Anonymous said...

I believe that was already established. How many ways does it need to be said before it sinks into your sedimentary head?

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, it will never register, it does not compute.

Anonymous said...

3:44

Isnt NE NPL made up of ECNL B teams?

With Match Fit that still makes for a strong team. Other clubs - not so much

Anonymous said...

I am being totally impartial because I don't have a kid on either team. Am I the only one who thinks it's silly that Former NJX is considered a "B" team over Former Jefferson.


Anonymous said...

5:24 I am impartial as well. I do not think it is silly based on a few factors.

Team has been with Match Fit for 3 years. Personally improved every year from the games I seen vs my daughter. this is the only team I see that can play with PDA. Not saying beat, play like PDA

Anonymous said...

Top 3 teams in NJ bar none are PDA & the 2 Matchfit teams (one formerly NJX). Far drop off after that.

Anonymous said...

I assume the proper way to look at both teams is that they will both play tough schedules for this year and then next year the club will play mix and match between both teams and make one ecnl team and one npl team .

NPL will be for the players not chosen for the ECNL team

Anonymous said...

They will have to eventually mix these teams up. There are some quality players on the former NJX team that should easily challenge for spots on the ECNL team. Unless having the best possible team doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

I have a feeling that the winner in trying to mix NJX and matchfit will be PDA.

They will pick through Match fit's carcass and pick up a few quality players

Anonymous said...

WHy do people get so hung up on the team when playing for a CLUB in a club league?

There can be only 1 Pre-ECNL team and at least 1 NE NPL team. The ECNL team will have those letters in the team name and the other will have NPL - Who cares what the old team was - it's basically a new team.

The only difference and this is smart on MF part when it comes to GS points. GS is around and isn't going away, so by putting ECNL an NPL in their team names - when GS manually enters the league results and assigns points their teams will accumulate the points instead of GS creating a new team for those points. So MF pre ECNl will get GS points for their pre-ecnl flight league games and so will any other pre-ecnl team. Example Storm won't because GS isn't going to do the research to find out who the ECNL team is Storm Dragons, Ajax or Shore even though us local folks know Storm is pre-ecnl.

Anonymous said...

If NJX (Match Fit NE NPL) wins as much this year as last there will be little reason for any of the players to join ECNL Match Fit Black - unless maybe they want to visit relatives in Chicago.

Anonymous said...

PS. It's also smart that they gave the NJX team the NPL designation - to make sure their B team gets top flights.

Anonymous said...

It's actually backfired. If they were NJX they would be top flighted at STARS.

Anonymous said...

Ain't that the truth

Anonymous said...

I could hear the coach on the phone now. DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

Anonymous said...

It appears that GS points did not help NJX match nPL get into top top bracket at Stars. Go figure, they are afterall the #1 team in NJ

Anonymous said...

They are a thuper team..

Anonymous said...

You guys are looking to much into this. MAYBE FC STARS is just paying back NJ Crush (3rd time), NYSC (2nd time) & PDA Ajax (2nd time) for coming back to play. All 3 of them are NPL teams as well in addition to MF NPL dropping 9,460 GS points in AUG (that's a lot)

Anonymous said...

You guys are looking to much into this. MAYBE FC STARS is just paying back NJ Crush (3rd time), NYSC (2nd time) & PDA Ajax (2nd time) for coming back to play. All 3 of them are NPL teams as well in addition to MF NPL dropping 9,460 GS points in AUG (that's a lot)

Anonymous said...

The team that just dropped your precious GS points won the state cup and has now beaten top level teams already in friendlies and getting better. Unless you are PDA, you are looking up at this team. Keep trying to knock them. Maybe you can will your kids team to be better.....

Anonymous said...

No one is knocking them but FC Stars.

Last time we checked they are 2nd flight because the tournament people did their research and though they were a second flight team. SO I guess my GS points had a little something to do with it? NO?

Or Maybe people outside of NJ think NJ Crush, NYSC and PDA Ajax are better.

Will let you know if my kids team can do better in July 2015. Until then enjoy.

Your turn.

Anonymous said...

Crush????? That is funny. Called follow the money with the tourneys. It will all shake out in the end.

Anonymous said...

Crush is a breather game for those other teams. They can play all their players in that one and still win 3-0......

Anonymous said...

Well....Crush have done well vs the Mass teams, having handled Breakers in a friendly and defeated South Shore and Stars in other events....

Some forget Crush have wins over NJX and East Meadow as well, while making Ajax look quite ordinary every time they play.

Division title in NPL for 2013-14 doesnt hurt.

Crush's tough hurdle is to get by teams from other regions (Vardar, Cincy teams, etc) and some of the better teams in Region 1 (FC Va, Calvert, NEFC, Oakwood)

NJX doesnt play those last 4 I mentioned. Crush does. Take that statement as you like.

Anonymous said...

Gas up the CrushCopter folks! Gonna be an interesting fall!

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Newbie here. Whats with all the Crush hate? They compete in every game they play and often win and they are consistently placed in the top bracket of tournaments. Leave them be.

Anonymous said...

You’re not a newbie, if you were, you would understand,

HATE=RESPECT.

Anonymous said...

Crush peeps know the teams they have just played recently...... Not even at the same level as some. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

NJX over rated

Anonymous said...

NJX routed Crush in a scrimmage and played mostly subs. PDA and MF on different level. Crush does not have a win over these teams in years! Good luck.

Anonymous said...

I look on gotsoccer.... say all youw ant about this "riendly" or that....

Seems NJX quality wins in last YEAR were

1) PDA Storm (State Cup spring final)

2) World Class ECNL (Delco?)

3) Stars of Mass (last August, Spirit?))

Its a very good club, one I have been promoting. But starting with Labor Day we need to see more quality wins.

(Match Fit NE NPL - #1 in NJ = NJX, to remind everyone)

Anonymous said...

If quality wins are judged on what a team does against out of state competition, then I would say NJX is the best team hands down. The other so called top teams in NJ have not faired well against other states.
Storm is showing great things as they had a god showing in Chicago.

Anonymous said...

Stop talking crap and prove yourself on the field crush.

Anonymous said...

Have to wonder if NJX will bring guest players to STARS.

Anonymous said...

NJ Crush league standing
EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 = 5th
NYCSL NPL SPRING 2014 = 12th
NYCSL NPL FALL 2013 = 2nd

MATCH FIT NPL league standing
EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014 = 3rd
EDP LEAGUE FALL 2013 = 3rd

2014 Record (W-T-L)
MATCH FIT NPL (9-2-5)
NJ Crush NPL (8-5-11)

Lets throw in some others for 2014
NYSC (9-3-6)
PDA Ajax (10-1-8)
PDA Storm (13-3-6)
TSF (9-2-8)
NJ Wildcats (13-6-2)
MF preECNL (9-5-8)

Anonymous said...

More accurately, league play:

NJ Crush - 3rd in NPL, of 16 teams (1st in division)
9-4-4 record

5th in EDP, of 8 teams
3-2-2 record

Carry on.

Anonymous said...

It's getting hot in here.

Anonymous said...

It's getting hot in here.

Anonymous said...

Crush is not even in the top 5 conversation. Have fun playing nobody this year and having no resources moving forward come U14.

Anonymous said...

Playing nobody? Put away the bottle. Have you seen the Stars bracket?

Anonymous said...

EDP brackets fall 2014

North

FSA Navy
Beachside SC
SABA Brooklyn
Alleycats Elite
TSF Academy
Ramapo Valley Tornados
HBS Spark
South Central Premier

Central

Lehigh Valley
FC Copa Lima
NJCSA Elite
STA Morris United
Calvert Crew Wjite
Match Fit Black
Nj Wildcats
Harford FC United
NJSA 04 Galaxy
Jersey Premier Flash

crossovers

NJ Crush Tsunami
Alleycats Premier

Anonymous said...

are those final?

Anonymous said...

4:12 Probably not. Back of the Net seems to think that the Schedules will be released shortly.

FSA wins North easily.

Central looks interesting - my early season favorite would be the Wildcats.

Thanks 3:44 for not putting up the source.

Anonymous said...

Can someone answer what may be a dumb question? How does the EDL work if the various NPL teams in EDP are scattered across 5 or 6 different divisions? Do they still schedule to play each other regardless of North/Central/South and 1st/2nd Division?

Anonymous said...

Is that the FSA A or B team?

Anonymous said...

Who are the NPL teams in EDP?

Anonymous said...

4:43 I guess they will get around to updating their website sooner or later. I hope they communicate better with their teams.

Anonymous said...

WAGS Applied List - DO you think Discover can compete with this.

Girls U13
Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue Maryland
Alleycats Soccer Club U13 Girls Elite New York East
Atlantic United Academy - Avalanche New Jersey
Beach FC 01G Red Virginia
Beachside SC CT Beachside Connecticut
Beadling SC Beadling White Pennsylvania West
Boca United Boca United 01/02 NPL Florida
BRYC 01 Elite Virginia
Capital United Blue Force New York East
CASL 01 CASL Red Ladies North Carolina
CDSA Glory Elite Delaware
Century V United 01-02 South Girls Elite Pennsylvania West
Cleveland FC Cleveland FC Royal Ohio North
Continental FC Delco ECNL '01 (Masuhr) Pennsylvania East
Crew Juniors Crew Juniros Gold West Ohio South
CSC Surge Virginia
CUSA Crew Juniors CUSA Crew Juniors 01 Gold Ohio South
CYA Cougars 01 Virginia
Delaware Rush DE Rush '01 Delaware
Express FC Express FC Ohio South
FC Europa FCE Force Pennsylvania East
FC Europa Liberty Pennsylvania East
FC Virginia FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01 Virginia
FC Virginia FC Virginia United '01 Virginia
Fredericksburg Area SA FASA Impact Elite '01 Virginia
Freedom Soccer Club FSC Premier Red 02 Maryland
Greensboro United Soccer Association GUSA 01 Navy G North Carolina
Gunston Soccer Club GSC Elite 01 Virginia
Harford FC United Thunder Maryland
HBC Barracudas New York East
HBC Spark New York East
HFC Ready '01 Pennsylvania East
Hulmeville SC Dynamo Pennsylvania East
Kings Hammer Academy KHA Red Kentucky
Lake Forest SA LFSA GU12 Select Illinois
Lehigh Valley United LVU 01 Girls Pennsylvania East
Loudoun Soccer LOUD01G Black Virginia
Loudoun Soccer Loudoun 01 G Red Virginia
mako soccer club 01 mako girls Florida
Manhattan SC G01 Pride New York East
Maryland Rush Montgomery Warriors 01 Maryland
Maryland United FC 01 White Maryland
Maryland United FC U13 ECNL Maryland
Mercer FC Spurs New Jersey
Miami Springs Soccer MSVG 01G BLUE Florida
Montgomery Soccer Club Blaze White Maryland
MRM Rush Nero '01G (aka Rage) Maryland
New York SC New York SC G01 New York East
NJ Wildcats Averbuch New Jersey
OP Fire OP FIre Red Ohio North
PA Classics PA Classics Academy 01 Pennsylvania East
PA Crew Academy Blue Pennsylvania West
Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL Pennsylvania East
Penn Fusion SA '01G NPL Pennsylvania East
PHWM SC Pumas Maryland
Pinecrest Premier 01/02- G BLUE Florida
Premier Angels Maryland
PWSI Courage 01G Red Virginia
RAGE FC Premier Freedom New Jersey
Rage SC '01 Athletica Pennsylvania East
Richmond Kickers YSC U12 G Elite Virginia
Smithtown Stars New York East
STARZ Soccer Club Power Maryland
STER FC Orange '01 Virginia
Sting Sting 02G Brown Texas North
Sting Sting Central 02G (Parker) Texas North
TCSC Revolution West Virginia
Tennessee Soccer Club Tennessee SC 20 Tennessee
Tophat Tophat 20 Gold Georgia
Tri-State FA TFA Elite 01 Ohio South
Victory Express SC Victory Express Platinum Pennsylvania West
Vienna Youth Soccer VYS Pride '01 Red Virginia
Vincent United F.C. Vengeance Pennsylvania East
VSA Heat Blue Virginia
Warrington Soccer Club FC Bombers Pennsylvania East
Yardley Makefield Soccer YMS Banshees

Anonymous said...

FSA NAVY is in EDP

Pretty sure that's the A


Anonymous said...

The EDL teams are as follows based on the NPL website:

FC Copa Academy (NJ)
Jersey United Spartans (NJ)
Lehigh Valley United (PA)
Manhattan SC (NY)
Maryland Rush (MD)
New Jersey Rush (NJ)
New York SC (NY)
NJ Stallions Academy (NJ)
NJ Wildcats (NJ)
Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)
South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)
TSF Academy (NJ)

We know that NYSC bolted of NYCSL, and I don't think there is Jersey United or NJ Stallions team at this age group. But the question still remains, how does it work when the remaining teams are spread across multiple divisions of EDP?

Anonymous said...

Fsa In ecnl

Anonymous said...


That WAGS tourney looks a bit average in talent level. Don't you think?

Anonymous said...

The pre ECNL FSA is not FSA Navy

FSA Navy is #1 ranked in CT. Pre EcNL is ranked #4

Sounds similar to MF Black and MF NPL (NJX)

Anonymous said...

Smart move - there is no need to have the ECNL take over the top account. It's better to have the B team takeover that account. It's about Club not Team and with the B team taking over that account they have a better chance of making top flights since they took over the game log history as well. Smart move. I thought WAGS looked okay, I'll look again.

Anonymous said...

Weird

Anonymous said...

Well, the pre ECNL coach is a former Irish national player...

I wonder if they have a blog up in CT where they discuss which players might move from FSA Navy to "White" (pre-ECNL)

Anonymous said...

FSA seems like a great club, but that White team was not very good last season, now they are Pre-ECNL

Anonymous said...

It's just a title folks to get through the pre ECNL season. Once next year rolls around, why would it matter about the b and a teams got soccer points. The ECNL will not need points. Just the letters in the title will put that team in the top brackets amongst other ECNL teams.
I really hope these teams start fresh so it can shut up the idiots who love talking about this gotsoccer points thing.

Anonymous said...

Just trying to figure out the relative strengths THIS SEASON of the 2 FSAs, if that's OK with you.

There's a bigger, longer range picture for all of us.

But we still like to follow the competition each season.

Anonymous said...

get over the points already. You will see more and more ECNL \NPL teams not chasing points.

Anonymous said...

When( NjX/Matchfit NPL) loses their 8000 points in next two weeks and it knocks them down to Number 4 in the state , would they have any chance of getting into top brackets in major tournaments? Also if the pre ecnl team and the NPL team enter the same tournament, doesn't it automatically mean that the pre ecnl team would be in the top bracket while the NPL team has to play in the second bracket?

I don't think this is a very good deal for the better players that play on NJX.

Anonymous said...

What points do they lose and what points stay?

Anonymous said...

Points earned within a 12 month window are used.

example: Once Spirit rolls around and points are earned, last year's Spirit points go away.

MF NPL will lose 9,400 points in August, that drops them down to #7 if they don't add any points back.

What GS points aren't important now?

Storm will drop 8,000 for their State Cup run in September and MF NPL will lose another 2,900 points as well plus anyone else who earned State Cup points in September. EDP points will also go away in September, so PDA Ajax will lose 3,800 plus all other teams. So yes the landscape will change and PDA will have the top two teams in the State love them or hate them - love GS or hate it - it will be around for a long time until something comes along that is better.

Anonymous said...

Thanks

Anonymous said...

The same happens to all teams when their tournaments roll up this season. Points go away. Everyone loses points. Not sure I follow you. So you are saying that the teams that will have more points are now better than them until they themselves lose points. Once again, you are obsessed with knocking the top teams. You can't knock them until you beat them kitty kitty...... Points are for the lower non academy teams. Have fun analyzing GS points this season.

Anonymous said...

PDA south barely over .500. Good not great. Settle down.

Anonymous said...

What happened to WAGS??? Used to be a top tourney back in the day. Looks like mostly glorified town teams in this thing.......

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Anonymous said...

Once MF NJX loses those gift points from that fugazi STA tournament that will be a much more accurate measurement as to where they lineup against the other top teams.

Anonymous said...

Isn't State Cup a good measure bitter boy?? Teams can always play a boatload of tourneys to gain points to try to look better than they really are.... Sound familiar kitty kitty.....

Anonymous said...

STA looking good locally next weekend. WC, PDA, MF, NY teams, Cedars. good local talent pre-labor day. WAGS is weaker this year, but early?

Anonymous said...

WAGS is another C tourney where the lesser teams try to gobble up GS points. Let me know if GS points help out much in the recruiting process...... AS someone else stated, 95% of the top kids will be in an academy situation come next year. Then what happens?

Anonymous said...

Win the State Cup before you speak about where teams teams measure. Only 2 teams can talk about being in the top 3 who deserve it. Eventually PDA and MF will lose major points due to the ECNL. Will that make them any less of a team? Stop hating and enjoy your kids development and career.

Anonymous said...

meh.. State cup isn't that hard. You can get lucky draws.. then it comes down to one game.

Anonymous said...

Has your team won it, or did you get upset by Boca?

Anonymous said...

No recruiting talk here, 9:25.

Anonymous said...

Like I said.. one game doesn't make or break a team.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't but you have to go by a teams history and history repeats itself with certain teams more often than not.

Anonymous said...

What up Njxty nutty

Anonymous said...

I am loathe re-hash this argument, but someone actually ran the most recent recruiting numbers for ECNL and non-ECNL teams:

http://www.d1soccerrecruiting.com/ecnl-and-the-college-recruiting-process-what-does-the-data-reveal/

Anonymous said...

State Cup's just another tournament.

Anonymous said...

Yup, just another single elimination tournament featuring, for the most part, the best teams in the state. Dime a dozen.

Anonymous said...

Enjoy your town team tournament. Long drive to grab points.... I guess that is all you really have now. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

What's a town team tournament?

Wait - actually many State Cup wins are vs town teams, aren't they?

All may enter

Not exactly an invitational

Anonymous said...

"An ECNL club is 8.81 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a 2016 recruit to a D1 school
an ECNL club is 11.28 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a 2016 recruit to a Top 25 D1 school"


enough said!


Those that think that it doesn't matter should read the article.

Anonymous said...

I dont think there has been a State Cup at this age group where ALL the top teams played.

Maybe that changes this fall.

Anonymous said...

Again. Wrong. EVERY top team was in this past cup. Now the academy teams will not be in it due to the ECNL schedule. State cup now will not mean as much. Top guys will be out of it. But good luck.

Anonymous said...

you're wrong Every TOP team was NOT in state cup. MF didn't play.

Anonymous said...

Oh, good - no ECNL teams. Now our daughters - who cannot walk and chew gum at the same time - might make a Cup Finals. I'm so excited.

Anonymous said...

lol

Anonymous said...

lol

Anonymous said...

Exactly. Without the top 4 teams in the state playing in state cup this year, your team may finally be able to win it.....

Anonymous said...

Why would the non Pre ECNL teams of ECNL clubs not be playing in state cup, if all they are is NPL teams. There are a lot of NPL teams that aren't associated with ECNL clubs that will be playing. Your NPL may be more competitive than mine, but we're all NPL teams. Don't kid yourself into believing that you're and ECNL team just because you wear the same letters on your jersey.

Anonymous said...

NJX guy enough already. You sound so bitter. Take your fight to the wildcats. Leave us all out of it

Anonymous said...

The difference is the depth of talented teams you will play in season. You will be playing top teams in Boston for a weekend. One team Saturday, the other Sunday. Same with PA. Same with NY, etc... Much more talent week in and week out than a regular NPL league. Just the truth....

Anonymous said...

I am an NJX hater but I have to say, seems like non academy teams that are barking and stirring the pot here......

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