For a second there I thought the answer to 9:49's question was going to be NJ Crush!
11/14 -2:30 pm what Is ECNL Record now in Bethesda. Only 2 in final 4
ECNL. Record at BethesdaTeams=6Wins=5Ties=3Loses=4
Check your math there are 7 ecnl teams at Bethesda.
How many U14 PDA teams are there? Ajax, Storm, who else? Which is the ECNL team, NPL team, etc...?
Wildcats leading BRYC at half.
ECNLF1 0-1-1 (-1) BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD) 0-1-1 (-1) ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)2-0-0 (+4) MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)2-0-0 (+5) PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)1-0-1 (+0) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)F20-1-1 (-1) CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE) F30-2-0 (+0) COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE) NPLF1 2-0-0 (+2) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)1-0-1 (-1) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)0-0-2 (-7) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)F21-1-0 (+1) GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA) 0-2-0 (+0) SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)0-2-0 (+0) PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) 0-0-2 (-4) NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) F31-1-0 (+2) NJCSA ELITE (NJ) 1-1-0 (+1) MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)0-0-3 (-5) MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE) F4 2-0-0 (+7) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE) 1-1-0 (+5) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 (NJ) F51-0-2 (-1) CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F (LAZARES) (PAE) 5-5-4 (+6) ECNL5-3-0 (+11) NPL - EDP2-1-4 (-3) NPL - NorthEast 2-1-6 (-9) NPL - NYCSL1-1-0 (+1) NPL - NewEngland
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX - This team is not a F1 team their last 4 events have proven that. 1 Win with 6 Dropped games and a whopping -17 GD this is a team over it's head in F1.F10-0-2 (-7) Bethesda Premier Cup 0-1-2 (-5) Spirit United Kickoff Classic1-0-2 (-5) FC DELCO Players Cup F22-1-1 (+1) Jefferson Cup Girls Weekend
BRYC AND NJ Wildcats in OT.
11:35 here is your answer and how they did at majorsPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (ECNL)F1 - 2-0-1 (+7) FC Stars Cup 2015 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONSF1 - 2-1-1 (-2) NPL FinalsF2 - 2-0-2 (+2) PDA Spring KickoffF3 - 1-1-1 (+0) FC Stars Cup 2015 F3 - 0-1-2 (-3) Jefferson Cup Girls WeekendPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXF1 - 0-0-2 (-7) Bethesda Premier Cup F1 - 0-1-2 (-5) Spirit United Kickoff ClassicF1 - 1-0-2 (-5) FC DELCO Players Cup F2 - 0-0-3 (-3) PDA Spring KickoffF2 - 2-1-1 (+1) Jefferson Cup Girls Weekend PDA SHORE FUSION (EDP)F3 - 2-0-1 (-4) PDA Spring KickoffF4 - 4-0-0 (+11) Spirit United Kickoff ClassicF9 - 4-0-0 (+7) Jefferson Cup Girls Weekend
Bethesda Premier Cup Girls - 2015 FinalsF1 - TBDF2YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)F3EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU14 (01/02 ) (NYW)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)F4 - TBDF5SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)
What league does Ajax play in?
Wow, just wow! Any word on the other semi?
Penn Fusion 2-0 over Maryland ECNL
Ajax plays in Mosa Nat. 2
I can't believe 1776 didn't make it to the finals
Penn Fusion wins
congrats to FCV on winning VA NPL Fall league with a 3-0 win over PWSI. Mixed season for FCV and certainly not played their best all season but only conceded 2 all season in NPL and won their Region I Fall championship games
Never mind Bethesda. In the exciting world of PAGS playoffs, Penn United grabbed a 1-0 victory over FC Revolution. In the process of this great victory, the PU coach was red carded for swearing at the ref, gave the FC Rev parents the finger and tried to fight one of them. Second red card in a month for the Penn United coach. Heard he is a very good coach, but would this be what you would want your daughter to deal with on a regular basis.
Does anyone know of any clubs getting ECNL status in nj ... I was told nj wildcats might be getting ECNL from a friend ... How true is this .
Congrats to Penn Fusion. The confidence gained from winning this one will serve them well going forward. This is an 01 dominant team that will be one of few staying relatively the same, even with the birth year change. With a few additions at tryouts, could really become dominant again.
5:09 doesn't FCV still have to play VA Rush.
6:07 - Penn Fusion might be 01 dominant but they are u14 right now. With the birth yr change that team could be totally different because it will open tryouts up to the 1st 6 months of the year. That means girls that are currently playing u15. Teams will be changing next year for sure
6:32 - nope, FCV played Rush last weekend. A monsoon caused the game to be called 0-0 at half time (but result stands).
No way wildcats get an ECNL tag. There will be no more ECNL teams in the northeast for now. The product is already water down for the area
Bethesda Premier Cup Girls - 2015And the GS winners areF11st PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)2nd NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)3rd BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA) 4th MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD) F21st YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (PAE) 2nd PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) 3rd PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 4th SJEB '01G NPL (NJ) F31st EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU14 (NYW) 2nd NJCSA ELITE (NJ)3rd NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)4th MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)F41st LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS (PAE) 2nd DAVIDSONVILLE DYNAMITE (MD) 3rd MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 (NJ) 4th CENTURY V 0102 GOLD (PAW) F51st BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW) 2nd SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD) 3rd BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 4th HFC READY '01 (PAE)
6:57 I disagree NEFC get ECNL for sure if they want it and if that happens they will need another from MA, CT, NY, NJ or PA.
PS - can never be watered down if they (ECNL) become DA.With NEFCMA 3 teamsNY 3 teamsPA 3 teamsCT 2 teamsNJ 2 teams
PA Classics will get an ecnl tag. Solid club, great facilities, excellent track record on boys side. May need a few more top girls coaches but that will come. Geographically well positioned to expand the league.
There be no more NE ECNL teams and there will not be a DA on the girls side. I am not sure if ECNL can be taken from a club or ever has been? If this would happen then possibly NEFC before PAC for sure.
If PA Classics numbers would be huge if they were to become an ECNL club. One of the major issues would be the length of travel for other clubs to get to their fields in order to play. As far as hiring better coaches, the Penn United coach should be available soon.
PDA carries a lot of clout and they would likely try and block another ECNL team from NJ. If anything, I could see NY getting another team.
Say what you want but there is a large gap between the MF and PDA ECNL teams and the rest of the state. Even their B teams are starting to separate themselves from everyone.November 12, 2015 at 9:47 AMAfter this weekends results it seems the separation is real but in the opposite direction from what the above poster foolishly proposed, LOL.
If you guys only knew intentions of those clubs you are referring to.
9:47 If your referring to a baby bird falling out of the nest and plummeting downward as separation, you are correct.
Dude, what is that 5 or 6 posts now? Can you say obsessed? Tryouts are in May, you can give it another shot.
Well MatchFit NPL did not advance in Flight 4 which was won in dominating fashion by Lehigh Valley of supposedly weak EDP.
LVU won 4th flight? So have we had enough of that NPL better than top half of pags or edp talk? Would have been interesting if PL was in this one and had to go up against PF. Could have been a good grudge match with PF looking to show which team has improved.
Seems obvious doesn't it?
True. PL does look like the better team and would probably beat PF much worse this time. Even PF's win at Bethesda did not comfort former PL parents, who though out tournament sat by themselves brooding over daughters' lack of playing time.
Do bitter parents live on this blog or what?! Too funny.
Yes, welcome. This blog is home to the bitter, the jealous, and the most of all the pot stirrers. You can either let it frustrate you or simply laugh.
So much for BRYC being all that.
East Meadow looked dominant out in Phoenix.
Not as good as PDA did.
Matchfit loses to BRYC and Bethesda ECNL? That surprises me. What happened there?
Hey mf whof was coach this week at ecnl????
For those that said on here no scouts would be watching U14 games at Bethesda. So wrong!
So being unhappy playing only 60% of games like everyone else, not always starting, and the positions the girls are asked to play, they move to a team where they're lucky to play at all, rarely start, and their primary position is bench warmer? Well can't say they weren't warned. Still, I feel bad fir the girls.
Nothing better to do than "try" to stir a pot? I feel bad for you. Get a life outside this blog.
7:41 that is every parent that thinks their kid is a prodigy. They move to a team and find out that their kid is not as technical as the others an the environment is ultra competitive so they don't take chances on the kid.So the parents now need to spend extra money on technical training so the kid can catch up to everyone since they are all athletic and are so unhappy they call it a money grab and so unfair. But if their kid was playing more than not then we would be hearing a different song.This is why I laugh at the wait until next year posts, then it's the same song just a different voice. Yes like any place like this the bottom 3 to 4 players on any roster get replaced by anew crop of players who if not at the same level become part of the same cycle the only difference is they are now older and no longer want to work so they just become part of stat kids who stopped playing -until this happens -it's always not my kid -my kid will never stop.
8:14 why are you calling him that? 8:25 here.They are realistic and know that if they made the same move they would be in the same boat. They just understand that and are keeping it real to their kid's ability.
So players don't move in order to get better training and competition if its lacking where they are at?? Come on man.
8:35 never said that - but if they lack the skill and are a work in progress can you guarantee they play? I'm willing to bet they don't and that's fine for a small percent that get motivated by that - but most are not in that boat MAN. How easy it is to play with the feelings of others.Can you guarantee they play more than they did? 8:25 here
Better training? Sure IF that were the case. Better competition? Only if you are on the field competing.
Well said 8:49
Pretty sure we have a blogger talking to themselves. LOL
9:10 you would be wrong. I guess you can't make the guarantee I asked for -so instead you spin. Nice job
East Meadow lost their last game.
8:49 That was a good one. You win that round with a jab to the nose.
739am What U14 game were you watching that had scouts watching. A little more brief would help with you blog.
NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer Showcase11/28/2015-11/29/2015Girls U14 Showcase RedBracket A NJCSA ELITE NPL -MANALAPAN (NJ)CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREW (MD)YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)Bracket BOAKWOOD SC (CT)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)
So Wildcats Beat Albertson ECNL, Bethesda ECNL, Braddock Road and in the final were tied with Penn Fusion 1-1 until final 5 minutes?
Welcome back Wildcat Coach
Yep, and so it begins again. Deep breath everyone. Its going to be an exhausting couple of day on the blog with Wildcat Coach.
Yeah, they are just a step below ECNL. Seriously, they are right there. Keep trying, keep working hard. Parents, keep yelling at them from the sidelines too, that will help.
They had a good tournament. Let him gloat!
11:23 - Hey coach, what's up?
"Congrats to Penn Fusion. The confidence gained from winning this one will serve them well going forward. This is an 01 dominant team that will be one of few staying relatively the same, even with the birth year change. With a few additions at tryouts, could really become dominant again."50% of starting lineup is '02. You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Their birth dates are listed on their website, you might want to check them for yourself.
I do not think ECNL teams at this age will change much at all next year as to why break up teams headed to U15-U18 as they are all playing each other any way at the HS level so size, speed and strength is a non-factor anymore when comparing UI5+ girls. Now at U14 and below as many girls would still be 8 grade or below next year and hitting maturity I can see a the shift change happening.
There's an unhealthy obsession going on here.
Well 11:32. Did you check???
MF ECNL loses 2-0 to BRYC and doesn't advance?MF NPL doesn't advance in Flight 4 won by Lehigh Valley EDP Team?Ajax goes 0 for in flight 1(again)?Can we please hear more about the domination of these 2 clubs?
12:27 you may need... a life.
Dream on. They are all reshuffling next year. The oldest 2 ECNL birth year ages will combine. All others will stand alone in a complete birth year reshuffle. The Penn Fusion 01 team has only 5 02s on the whole team. However there is one 02 playing up who is excellent and a bunch of 02 team 02s. The 01 team at Penn Fusion will benefit from half the 00 teams 01s. If the national player doesn't play up on 00 the 01 team will be amazing. It will be very good to excellent without her. Some of the current 01 birth year, 01 team players, will be NPL or at another club (exchange some PL kids?) when the 01s come down from the current 00 team. All the ECNL teams will look very differently next year when they all comply completely with the mandate to show good citizenship and ensure maximum competitiveness. Wouldn't want to look weak or anger the USSF when they might be thinking of how they will assign DA status...
Yup that LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS EDP team dominated their flightGive them credit if you are going to use their name. They proved they were in the wrong flight by a title and GD of +11.I'm sure they can't wait to play the NJ Wildcats NPL with something on the line like a trip to CO for the NPL finals 4:1 CENTURY V 0102 GOLD 5:1 LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER4:1 DAVIDSONVILLE DYNAMITE
Lehigh Valley just lost 6-0 to Wildcats in EDP/NPL league game 2 weeks ago,Be careful what you wish for.
10:01 I could but.. nah. Just wanted to tell the prior doubters they were wrong. What's new on this board though.
12:46 We've missed you Obie Wan.
Give some credit. The Cats managed to beat 2 good teams! Kudos.
12:39. No obsession here. Post started out as congratulations to PF for their win and how 01 dominant they are, and how good they'll be next year. Can't help some yenta feelings got hurt because her daughter is an 02. I positive that when her daughter gets into the game and plays her 20 minutes, she does very well.
Besides losing 2-0 to BRYC MatchFit ECNL also lost 2-0 to Bethesda ECNL while Wildcats beat both Bethesda ECNL and BRYC.
LVU won Flight 4. Stop gloating. You lost to Wildcats and Rush Blue in EDP League.
Good job also by SJEB beating GPS and tieing other 2 games in F2 at Bethesda.Also remember Lehigh Valleys F4 included MatchFit from NE-NPL which many on this blog were touting as superior to EDP league beacuse of strength of MF NPL Team and NE-NPL League overall as well as strength of Ne-NPL League current leader PDA Ajax.
Wildcats were just warming up. They'll dominate the Spring.
1:24 please school me on what exactly Wildcats and Rush got for those wins? 1st and 2nd place in league play that means nothing besides GS points unless that floats your boat. LVU won their NPL game vs TSF 4-1 and is getting ready for their NPL games -the ones with a birth to the Finals - just do your part. Just for the record Bethesda placed them in F4 and they dominated it showing Bethesda they made a mistake. Just took care of business that's how you prove a point - no gloating This would be gloating - this Fall they wereW-T-L17-1-3 GD +45
I thought I was dreaming when I saw the score of 1776's first game. Then I saw their next 2 results. Same story there.
1:38 If that makes you feel better by updating us on their accomplishments so far. I'm sure Wildcats and other teams can do that too. I am so proud of you. Is that what you want to hear? Come on u14 doesn't really mean much anyway. We won't remember next year what your record in fall was or really care. I was just stating you were making a big deal of winning Flight 4. Whoopy
BTW, LVU there aren't any good teams in NPL. Wow you beat TSF. YIPPEE
Honest question, no agenda. Why is 1776 such a target of ridicule for some of you? Or maybe it's just one person with an axe to grind repeatedly posting. I'm on this board more than I care to admit, mostly observing but occasionally posting, and I can't remember anyone representing the club overselling them. They're a good team with good, but inconsistent, results. They have trouble scoring. They have a loud mother. That sounds like pretty much every other team in the discussion these days, except they're not on here beating their chests. Which leads be back to the "axe-to-grind" theory. What did they do to you?
2:15. Why doesn't u14 mean that much ?
@2:20, because every year there is someone who's team is underperforming (or just not as good as they think they are), and they argue that the age group doesn't matter...it's NEXT year that starts to count. It's a defense-mechanism for their inadequacies...
That's every day on this blog. Good job pointing out exactly what it is though.
At least they didn't have problems scoring against Ajax!
Say what you want about 1776 but the 5-0 whitewshing of NE-NPL leader Ajax at Bethesda Tournament was eyeopening and a refutation of recent claims of NE-NPL being superior to EDP as 1776 is far from top team in EDP and PDA Ajax currently leads NE-NPL League standings.
Ajax didnt send their top players. They only sent their subs.
1776 is just an average team with average players. I don't know why anyone even talks about them at all
It must be tough being a top player on one of the PDA teams, according to this blog they never get to play in any games!
They only try in their NE-NPL league games because competition is so tough.
I'm assuming @2:57 was a tongue in cheek dig at a typical PDA response/excuse.But truthfully, Ajax didn't send their top players, AKA Storm players. They sent the real Ajax, and the real Ajax was exposed.
Exactly. As was strength of NE-NPL League..
Got back from Bethesda last night, and I have so many mixed emotions, its hard to accept some.Overall the team did not fair very well, we should of won our first game, got smashed in our second and won our third, the hotel sucked, they are having a soccer-mom swingers convention, but nobody told me, and if they did I would of passed. My issue is my daughter, and the obvious distance she is putting between herself and most of her teammates. Before you jump on me, I too have read about delusional parents thinking their little Carli is to good for their team, but I REALLY feel this team is just not a good fit, but I have very little to no better choice in my area, what am I to do??? As I watched her play against girls big and aggressive girls, I was so proud of her, she held the middle like a true warrior, not giving an inch, and made great passes to her teammate all weekend.Any advice?
Buy a Prius.....
Advice?Yeah - you'd be a fool to leave that team, 3:40.
Thanks 3:55, but can you please elaborate on why it would be foolish to leave??
If she's really that good move to NJ and have her play for Storm. You'll never have to worry about all those problems associated with playing tournaments again .
Relocate to SoCal.
3:40 As much as I had to laugh at the advice you received (drink heavily and buy a Prius), its is a tough decision on where to go next year. There have been some really good post on here regarding opportunities after high school and before you even think about moving to what is perceived as a higher level, you have to honestly ask yourself:1. Does my daughter really want to be pushed and can I accept it when a coach tells me her limitations and what she doesn't do well?2. Can my daughter and I accept that she might not be the star on the team and am I ok with her being one of the important parts that make up a good team? 3. You are already dealing with the time and cost of her playing. So I'm sure you are already aware of the upswing in that area. You have stated that there is nothing in your area, are you talking 30 minutes away? One hour? Most parents that have daughters on well coached teams drive about 45 minutes to and hour each way, some up to an hour and a half with kids doing homework in the car. The real question is, does your little Carly want to do more? Or is it your wish to see her do more?
and @3:40PM plays for.......wait for it.....NYSC.The scores match up, as does the long drive, the complaints about the quality of soccer moms at the hotel, and the quality of the hotel itself.The team is not F1. That was the first problem this weekend.
Actually, she plays for Albertson Fury ECNL, but nice try.
First question is what year was she born?If an 02 and she is a top player on her 01 team now and the team was in one of the top 4 flights at Bethesda might consider an ECNL team for next year if you are driving anyway. But really it depends on too many questions to really address here without a lot more info on location, level, commitment (of both of you) which is tied to what she thinks she wants out of her soccer, and birth year.
Albertson didn't get "smashed" in second game and didn't lose the third. They tied. It's NYSC.
A 3-2 loss to Wildcats is getting "smashed"?
If your NYSC how do you not have choices near you? Especially if your kid is that good.
Hmmmmm....if only there were another ECNL club located on Long Island, minutes away from you, for you to explore...."...little to no better choice..." in your area?
Complaints about the quality of soccer moms? Are we talking physical or mental abilities? Soccer moms drinking late at night at night during tournaments is always a loud occasion. Only made worse when they are wearing garments that should not be worn when gravity has taken sure harsh measures on the human body (see 11:32 here). But even with that, I would not even list that as a reason to stay or go.
We though about East Meadow, but the quality of training there is poor, and the club is on shaky financial ground, we also thought about ISA, not sure is we will fit over there.
My daughter plays for NYSC, and whoever posted that comment is not with our club. Its doesn’t take much to look-up scores, and exaggerate hotel accommodations. My child is very happy with her team and her development, but she is also very competitive, and hates to lose, which is an admired trait by the club. When she put her jersey on, she is committed mind and body to play the best she can, until the final whistle. Other than NEFC, we have not played a team that I thought outplayed us, although we have lost plenty this fall season, I am encouraged by my daughters commitment to her team, to her club, and to herself.P.S. To The Real Sounders Mom who kept yelling, “don’t let them push you around”, sorry lady.
MF NPL team should not be rated this fall season. They still have some of the lower level players from Holmdel-NJX on the roster. Gift spots that will not be available next year and its already the case that these kids are not good and not able to contribute. This is what happens when deals are made. MF has a plan to improve this team but it will be with many new players.
Lol mf always has a plan. And then plan b and then c. But don't worry their entire u14 team has verbal commitments
The player is with FREDERICK. She is very good, but the team is as well, which is why I said they should stay.Just one dude's opinion. I dont even know how far Frederick is from Maryland United, for instance.
FREDERICK lost first game 3-0.
What was the Frederick / Ajax score? Never got posted.
Hey "coach" you are a complete jack *ss. Seriously you take second place in one tournament and now it's time to bash mf and pda. All of the negative posts about both clubs are from you and everyone sees it. Your jealousy about them will never go away because you will never have the status of their name brand. You are a absolute loser. Your obsession with these two clubs and your posts are so obvious it's stupid. The coaches from those 2 clubs could care less about you or your team so why do you constantly go after them? I just love how you're mediocre during the season and the blog stays quiet and then all of the sudden you get a few wins in one tournament and you flex your muscles like a pompous a hole. You really need to get a life because if this blog is what you rely on to puff out your chest about u14 girls soccer I'd be interested to see your social life. But i do kind of get it because I saw you coach a game and it all makes sense..
Must've been coaching a winning game. And my team knows who the coach is
MFA is a great club, but they need to get some things worked out. They know it, and they will get it worked out.
New YorkClub SoccerLeague are the masters of GS malipulation - they blow EDP out of the water.Their teams get points for:NYCSL NPL U11-U14: FALL 2014 9/6/2014 - 11/23/2014NYCSL NPL U12-U18 Spring 2015 3/20/2015 - 6/25/2015NYCSL NPL U12-U18 Spring 2015 3/20/2015 - 6/25/2015So instead ofthe 2014 fall season falling off when the 2015 Fall gets posted they keep them all to stack up the points just like EDP.Don't mess with NY and NJ they know how to twist the rules and make their teams look really good when it comes to GS rankings.This next one is genius, they have one flight Value 6,300 taking the best 5 teams out of the 12 and then they award TWO 1st place awards off of the max points, 2 second place awards and so on. GENIUS!! you can't make this stuff up. EDP eat your heart out - BUT now you can take the best 5 teams from your North/Central/South and get the full 10,000 value and have 3 first place awards splitting the 10k - OMG NYCSL NPL Fall 2015GS Points awardedFlight Ranking Value: 63005284 (6 wins) ISA NPL-01 (NYE)3460 (5 wins) MASSAPEQUA NPL-01 (NYE)2724 (4 wins) MANHATTAN SC NPL-01 (NYE)1189 (4 wins) NEW YORK SC NPL-01 (NYE)1749 (4 wins) QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL-01 (NYE)0000 (1 win) BRENTWOOD SC NPL-01 (NYE)4189 (9 wins) NJ CRUSH FC NPL-01 (NJ)2198 (6 wins) STA NPL-01 (NJ)3500 (3 wins) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH NY NPL-01 (NJ)2669 (3 wins) NEW YORK RUSH NPL-01 (CT)1821 (1 win) PRINCETON SA NPL-01 (NJ) 0000 (1 win) NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY NPL-01 (NJ) GS 4 Life
Correction:NYCSL NPL U11-U14: FALL 2014 9/6/2014 - 11/23/2014NYCSL NPL U12-U18 Spring 2015 3/20/2015 - 6/25/2015NYCSL NPL Fall 2015 9/12/2015 - 12/20/2015
8:40 I agree with you 100%PDA did not bring all players to Bethesda, brought many players that are not often on a game day roster or play often. Good way to prove players additional playing time. Do I agree with this, no. As a paying parent, I would like the best team to travel. I also spoke to a parent that I have gotten to know over the past few years from a another club, this parent stated the same frustration I expressed, that their team did play to win of course to a degree. Every player was told that every player was playing equal playing time prior to attending this tournament regardless of score.Are we both happy about our clubs decisions, NO. We are not. It clearly shows that both our clubs focus on the league play results than they do to Tournament results. As a parent I would rather not go to these tournaments, if we decide to play this way
These teams play their leagues to win with best players at the time and then showcase the players that don't play as much during leagues games in tournaments. What's wrong with this?So the parents of those kids are not paying parents? What makes you so special?
What a complete crock 9:35.How many times do we have to hear these same tired excuses.
Remember when PDA lost in league play and they claimed they only try to win in tournaments and state cup play and league play is for development.
Coach they're not excuses. Not everyone takes the same approach as you at the tournaments. You have to win because that's your bread and butter. "Little man's disease". It's what happens when you always have something to prove. These tournaments are always critiqued more than league games as well so I see why your napoleon complex is flaring..
9:35Since you know...what criteria did PDA use to choose who travelled to Bethesda?Did any AJAX players need to be in Arizona instead?Thanks
8:21Frederick lost first game to Crush 2-1 - this is the one they think they should have won, I assumeGot handled easily second game vs eventual champ 3-0And I assume they beat Ajax
Ajax didn't bring any of their regular players.They took 18 players off the local rec team to Bethesda.
So when you don't bring in ringers from another team and you actually play all your players you can't win games? OK, got it.
Yea all the regular Ajax players were up in Conneticut playing in place of storm, who needed the day off from their busy playing schedule. That would also explain that loss up there too I guess?
But wait 10:40 didn't they just claim all their efforts went into league play?Then how to explain Storms performance vs middle of the pack CFC?I am getting dizzy from all the spin.
I am hoping all the AJAX post are people just stirring up the pot to have some fun. No self respecting PDA parent would put out excuses like the ones posted here. Ajax got crushed this weekend and no need to cover it up with the old party line of "our real players were elsewhere". No other team uses that excuse even when its a bad loss. PF got crushed in earlier tournaments, yet not one PF parent posted that they were using the bottom of the roster. Why would anyone embarrass their team and players with such childish remarks?
Are you really that naïve to think Ajax is posting that?
They dont. It's not PDA.Why would adults bash U14 soccer teams/players? Jealousy is the root of most of the immature and ignorant remarks on this board for one reason or another. No one will admit that of coarse. PDA is one of the best soccer clubs in the US. People love to watch failure from anything they are envious of. Ajax will rebound from this weekend. Don't worry.
PDA did not bring all players to Bethesda, brought many players that are not often on a game day roster or play often. Good way to prove players additional playing time. Do I agree with this, no. As a paying parent, I would like the best team to travel. I also spoke to a parent that I have gotten to know over the past few years from a another club, this parent stated the same frustration I expressed, that their team did play to win of course to a degree. Every player was told that every player was playing equal playing time prior to attending this tournament regardless of score.Are we both happy about our clubs decisions, NO. We are not. It clearly shows that both our clubs focus on the league play results than they do to Tournament results. As a parent I would rather not go to these tournaments, if we decide to play this wayNovember 16, 2015 at 9:35 PMSure sounds like an Ajax parent.
These girls are now U14 not U9.In the next year and 1/2 they will be showcased for the college coaches and have to show their stuff.Anyone who claims that any player or coach at this level is not trying their very best every time they step on the field at one of these major tournaments is full of baloney.College coaches are already evaluating the freshmen and already has ratings for the freshmen class that play in this age group.
There is a great article on soccerparenting.com by ex-Notre Dame keeper Skye Eddie Bruce about the negative psychological effects on a player 14 or under who is playing less than half a game for her team.All soccer parents shuld read this article. It is very insightful and includes a true story from current USWNT member Megan Klingenbergs parents about what Megan went through when she was in this situation as a young player and it's effect on her.
After pulling up soccerparenting.com website just click on "blog" and the article"Who is to blame when your child is not getting enough playing time" will come up.Definitely worth a read for all of us youth soccer parents.
MFA is not the place to be at. Wrong Academy! I saw their games this weekend both ECNL and NPL,just awful!
okay coach, tell us what they were doing wrong, since you spent so much time analyzing their games.
7:35... I agree
A quote from the article"You have to play. You can’t develop unless you play the game…I played a (ECNL) game recently when the first sub from the other team was in the 39th minute of a 45 minute half. So what development are those kids getting? I honestly believe a player cannot develop to their full potential unless they actually play. You can do all the training you like and train against your teammates and you can make training competitive but at the end of the day it’s not as competitive as when you step across the white lines and there is an opponent that you don’t know that wants to beat you just as badly as you want to beat them.”Amen!!Thank you for the great read.Teams like PDA do your kids a great injustice because of moneySoccer Nut
@101..... Good read, thanks for sharing. Here is an even better article & it's not from any blog it's written by expert titled "Coaching Abuse: The Dirty, Not-So-Little Secret in Sports". Scroll about halfway down excellent bullet points on traits of the abusive coach contrasting with traits of a good coach. How would you rate your daughter's coach? Go to:https://www.competitivedge.com/%E2%80%9Ccoaching-abuse-dirty-not-so-little-secret-sports%E2%80%9D
How about this quote Soccer Nut from the coaching abuse article:"Unfortunately when coaches subscribe to this creed, when they put their needs to win in front of their athletes’ well being and learning, then serious problems develop. Interactions with coaches who believe that the end always justifies the means, that the outcome of winning is far more important than the process of teaching and playing, do significant, long term damage to young athletes. When winning is more important to the coach than the experience of his/her athletes’ participation, then EMOTIONAL and sometimes PHYSICAL ABUSE are the end result."What do you think?
I would tend to disagree with you about your opinion of match fit. The game I saw I could not believe they ended up losing. They definitely have some issues to address though. I thought they had many opportunities to score but are lacking a strong finisher most of their shots seem to come from the outside positions at bad angles. Defenders got out run on a breakaway and I don't recall the goalie coming out to challenge. Otherwise I thought they played hard, look good at times but still have a ways to go to beat top teams. But good luck
Can someone explain to me the difference between competitive soccer and recreational soccer is? They are both played to win.
Lack of speed in the back can hurt - we see that across this and other age groups.
I found it interesting that Terry Foley, the head of FVC, an ECNL Club, chimed in on the importance of playing on average around half a game or you are not getting the minutes necessary for real development of an elite player.Maybe every ECNL Club doesn't buy into the larger rosters and players sitting out.Also found it fascinating that a player like Megan Klingenberg wenrt through this at a young age. Sure shows that there are late bloomers and we shouldn't accept that just because a coach doesn't think enough of a player to play them real minutes in meaningful games that it is hopeless for that player to develop.Find a coach who thinks your player has potential and is willing to let them play and develop their talents.
If you seen MF NPL, please tell state on what field and when. If actually saw the games you will know why I am asking. If you do not respond it will clearly show you were not in attendance
Great conversation, I see it on both ends having 2 sons and daughter, U14 of course daughter and 2 younger sons. I cannot believe how much time players sit on our team, if you read this article about 4 players at minimum should leave our team immediately at age of 13. Their playing time is a joke, parents consistently complain, I cannot see why they don't play more, but I am just a fat parent, not an expert coach. I am one of the 12-13 lucky ones who's daughter plays almost all the time. Thank goodness I don't have to deal with that issue with my daughter, now my one son is another story, on mosa team and only plays about 1/2 game. What a world of difference, I at times feel like that parent with my son, looking at my phone for time, asking my wife what he did wrong and why is he not starting after scoring winning goal at last game. Can we please keep this conversation going. Now of course on mosa team you are talking about parent coaches. And I do know some of our daughters teams competition have parent coaches, that is a major, major issue at this age???????
Well, its clear Match Fit NPL is not as strong as they were - but who expected them to be?The ECNL team is still a very tough foe to handle. I was surprised to see the Bethesda FC (second place vs second place) result, though I'd be quicker to credit Bethesda than to knock MF in a game where teams didnt need a win to advance.
"Can we please keep the conversation going..."Sure.Dont any of you pull for the TEAM your son/daughter is with? Are you actually watching the BENCH for your child to get up to enter after ten, fifteen minutes, not watching the action?Unless it is a blatant situation where she/he doesnt play even close to half the games - or where there are players out there tripping all over themselves and getting FULL time - I'd think you might want to be more of a team first parent.I think I see where lack of competitive greatness comes from on these soccer fields - where lack of true EFFORT in games begins. It is at HOME. Worrying more about minutes and less about what is done with the minutes......WOW - its so obvious in reading some of this stuff.
I think this blog is an obvious example of our extreme obsession with winning.It is this obsession that makes coaches play the kids that they feel with help them win that day. The winning blinds us from thinking about development. We only care about development for the our kids that are starting. We DO NOT want to develop the bench warmers if it threats our chances of winning. This is very sad, but very true.
I guess 10:17 didn't bother to read the article.Try this quote:"How can a coach claim they are earnestly concerned with the development of the players if they are propelling them into a mental situation where they are likely to be stressed and nervous and lacking in confidenUnderperformance"It does not matter what level your child is playing, whether it be on a U.S. Developmental Academy Team, an ECNL Team, a US Club or USYS Team or a recreation team– if they are not getting an opportunity to play enough in games they will begin to lack confidence. A well-sited study by Hayes et all (2009) found that, as we can assume empirically – when an athlete is experiencing a low level of confidence the result is underperformance. Once kids finally do get in the game, they underperform because they are so nervous and feel as though they have something to prove. Or, worse yet, they are insecure and feel as though they don’t belong.""This is NOT an article about building resiliency. Of course, if your child doesn't play a lot in a game or two, then the appropriate parental response to your child is something like: "Well, you need to work harder in training.""This is an article for the parents who have kids who are regularly, over the course of an entire season, not playing more than a half of a game."
Or this:"How can a coach claim they are earnestly concerned with the development of the players if they are propelling them into a mental situation where they are likely to be stressed and nervous and lacking in confidence and therefore will underperform?""Coaches – if you make a commitment to a player by inviting them onto your team, HONOR YOUR COMMITMENT!"I think reading this article makes it clear it is not our childs fault if they are attending practice and working hard they should be allowed a chance to play and develop or they should not have been chosen for the team(and of course that would mean the club would have to choose not to accept their dues checks $$$) in the first place if they were not good enough to contribute meaningful minutes that allow them to develop and gain confidence and experience.
Ask yourself if you child is playing for a team/coach who is so quick to pull her or hesitant to give her a chance to play meaningful minutes in a close game that when she is put out on the field she is too nervous and anxious to perform to her normal level because she is looking over her shoulder for the "quick hook".
7;35 - you must have not seen MF NPL at all... Saying things does not make them true. In YOUR opinion, you can bash a team you have a personal issue with. but in fact... They won 5-0 and in their 2 ties... One in a disgusting muddy field... They outplayed and out shot their opponents 13-4 in both ties... Give credit to the group winner, they played for a tie and got it.
10:11I feel horrible because I worry about my kid over the team.Let the coach worry about the team and winning.( Are you a coach?)I worry about the development of my child.I don't pay x amount at this age so my child can play with the best team and sit, I am looking for development and that means contributing and playing often with the best team I can find for her.When you ease up on the winning aspect then all you have left is the purpose of development.And that means the development of the player starts and ends by playing major minutes.And for parents that means player over team with no apologies necessary!If that doesn't happen then I as a parent have to take control and remove her from that situation.Soccer Nut
Meant for 10:17Soccer Nut
10:30 I do believe there is some merit to your post in certain situations and unfortunately some parents are way over the top. However, would you admit that there are players on every team that work much harder at their craft than others on that same team might? As I was told by a coach once "fair time does not mean equal time". I not even talking about one player being more physically gifted than another, because that will always happen at any age or level. But the simple fact that some players put a lot of extra time into what they do and some simply go to practice. My daughter is on a team where the coach makes a dedicated effort to play the girls equally and shifts out four to five players every eight minutes. It does cause a lot of consternation among some parents and I have to admit, sometimes gets me pissed, especially if your daughter is doing a lot of work on her own and playing well in the game. If you think its sad now with how competitive parents are about minutes, wait until they are at the real showcase age and being out on the field becomes imperative in order to be seen. I know it sounds horrible, but from this point on, it about being on the field. You can't show your skill set from the bench, so you really can't blame parents that are so vested in this to not want whats best for their daughter. It is a team game, but coaches watching often don't come to see who wins. Every wants their daughter's team to win, but most want their daughter on the field while its happening. PL Parent
PL Parent, that's interesting on your coaches subbing style. I honestly dont know which is better - maintaining equal play by rotating players every 8-minutes or the subbing rules for ECNL where once you are sub'd you cannot go back in until the next half. What some of the ECNL coaches end up doing is waiting until the last 15-minutes or so in the first half to sub (we play 40-minute halves). For example, a typical game starters could play 25-minutes, subs play 15. Some starters will play the entire 80-minutes. I think the game is designed to be played in large blocks of time, I think at least 20-minutes for the kids to get into a flow and really figure out how to play against their competition that day. But it would also be nice to have all of the players get at least half the game.
I did not watch the NPL team, so cannot give you my opinion on them. Both match fit teams looked horrible. The team I watched in my opinion outplayed the other team, but had trouble scoring. They had several set plays and numerous corner kicks that no one even touched. But in my opinion overall play was better from match fit. When I said Defenders we're outrun Ino means that they were bad players or slow. I think the player who scored is an exceptional fast player. I also saw her score in there other game. Just one person's opinion.
I am also one of the lucky ones whose daughter plays major minutes.I believe their is an obligation for a coach to play his best players as the objective of every game is to win. I feel for those players and parents whose kids are not playing much and it is a difficult decision to stay on a competitive team or maybe drop down to a lower level to get more minutes. Lets not kid ourselves,we all want development but we all want to win. Lets also not forget, like it or not, youth soccer is big business and winning programs bring more business.
If your child's team comes off the field after a big leagiue or tournament win and all yous ee is a drooping face because she didnt play enough, that's a problem - and one not solved by your coach simply giving her more time.There's a divide there between individual and team. And likely you have had a hand in creating it.I am not saying there is no room for a comment like "I'm sorry you didnt get to play more, honey", but that should be secondary to being happy for your child's SUCCESS, as evidenced by her TEAM's victory (yes, all players are EQUALLY part of this team and their wins/losses, no matter the amount of time out there that day)As the previous poster said - it will always be a tough decision to leave a team that is succeeding, for playing time/positional or other issues. Some are tough calls, others easier, due to the details of the particlar situation.Question: Have you seen instances where a player has gone from getting the less desired 50% or lower game time - but in a year to 18 months time is now getting 75-80% or greater, by hard work, circumstance, whatever...(not to include bi**hing from parental units)?I have.Sometimes staying, being a solid teammate works.
11:14 you bring up a good point. Some leagues allow free substitution and some do not. I think it is easier to get a player playing time in a free substitution situation. Tougher when you can't. Especially for the teams who's bench players aren't close to as strong as the starters.
Soccer Nut"....and that means contributing to and playing often with the best team I can find for her"So many parents are on that bubble, between teams. Would we be better off at Team X? Much to consider.But while the player is WITH their current team, I think attitudes can change to HELP that team - and to help your son/daughter with the HERE AND NOW, while you decide on the WHEN AND WHERE of the future.
I will give an examle:The player is seen by the parent as being played out of position. Discussions in the car, around the dinner table, at family functions center around this - how Susie should be playing striker, playing in midfield, what have you....Susie is never encouraged to accept the coach's decision and become what is best for the CURRENT SITUATION, become the best player at that position that she can be. There is too much noise about where sge SHOULD be playing and you have her believing that she can ONLY excel if given that spot.Never mind that learning the new position might make her a better player in the end when she does go back to her desired spot - or that some players make the position change against THEIR judgment but become GREAT players at the new spot.Dont overparent. Let the coaches coach - at least for a reasonable amount of time
11:49Nonsense. You can show good graces for a team winning and privately have a conversation with coach about her contribution. Nobody is talking about showing bad form over teams success.You are only one introducing this hypothetical in order to muddle a s pretty straight forward article and conversation .Soccer NutSoccer Nut
11:56I certainly agree with that.Oone can always control handwork and attitude.Handle the situation with grace.But understand what the politics are around you and what the goal of the club is. Don't make the foolish decision of thinking that" giving it all you can" and sticking it out when youth soccer is a game of politics and extremely bad coachesSoccer Nut
I am just appalled at the thought process that says the players on my daughter's team who dont get more than 50% of the playing time - and sometimes get less - are not developing as players and as young women - that somehow these parents are wasting their dollars and that there are "better places" for this player to continue her soccer and life education.Anyone ever hear of Swen Nater? Didnt play much at UCLA. Played plenty vs a guy named WALTON in practices. Became a pretty good PRO.Yes. Value the practice sessions, encourage your son/daughter to take MORE from them.
12:22How about if we value both?Soccer Nut
I suppose you can put me in the "trust in the coaches" camp on this issue. I have three daughters who play. Two have been placed on the B team at tryouts and then eventually became starters on the A team. While I disagreed with their placement on the B team, I told both of them to work hard and eventually it would sort itself out.Midseason, one of those two daughters went from being an ECNL starter to sitting the bench (minutes dropped from 65 per game to less than 20 per game). Coach gave the feedback that she needed to be more aggressive and "bring it" at every practice. She is slowly starting to get more minutes each week (40 last week...yes, I keep track).But eventually one or both of these two kids may find themselves as players 16-18 on the roster. And no amount of hard work will get them more minutes. If it reaches this point I think I would seriously consider moving them to the B team.My third kid is very good. I'd laugh at any coach that suggested she should be placed on a B team. :)
12:22 You are talking about a college players sitting behind a great player and waiting their turn!Try and read the article again and abosorb that they make clear that they are talking about 14 years old and younger players(like ours) who need half the game on average to develop.Using fully grown 19-23 year old college players is not a good analogy to still developing 12-14 year olds who in many cases are just now going thru puberty and their growth spurts(and often competitng against early developers who are fully grown and physically mature and at a huge temporary advantage over late physical developers) and all that entails with respect to growing into their bodies, regaining their body comntrol, agility and coordination and filling out).I agree with soccer Nut you are intentionally trying to muddie the waters instead of dealing with the issues in what is a very straight forward article.I think we are all wise enough to know we cannot expect our daughters college coaches to be focused on long term development.Their job is to win, our current coaches and clubs (as they always are quick to tell us) are supposed to be interested in long term development over short term results.And as parents that is all we want. If you pick the girls for your team coach, then they are good enough to play meaningful minutes, otherwise don't pick them and don't take their money dishonestly if you are not willing to let them play enough to develop.
Exactly what any parent wants and should expect if they make a team at tryouts.Very well said!
Well, the discussion of players under U14 should really be taken to another board, 1:08Now, do you have a response to the other posts?
I have seen guest players playing instead of rostered players, I have seen parent coaches, and hear many toxic parents on side lines. I was at a tournament in late spring 2015. Here is what I heard parent say "I cannot believe he did not play her even 5 minutes" So a girl on a team in a tournament did not play at all. U13 at that time, by the way the parent was much more nasty than the way I put it when speaking to another parent, I just overheard this. What a nightmare. Here is a huge problem that another poster put up recently. Where do you play at edp level or above in the Ocean and Monmouth areas? Their is not much, just go to got soccer look at top 10-20 teams, think about how far pda is, mf, sjeb, if you are in Ocean or Monmouth now your pain, time and money is much more to get things accomplished for little Susie. now you are home at 9 instead of 8, you leave at 5 instead of 6, and gas and tolls.
Agreed as and you can see from 1:17's posts, those who are perpetrating this on us and our children are desperate not to have this discussion see the light of day.
Funny, after one of Match Fit's games this weekend, I heard one of their parent complaining that their coach should not play any subs at all, as if that was the reason they lost. There's been times in close games that I have wished the coach had played the starters longer but I've never wished that any player sat on the bench for the whole game. But given how dirty their kids played the game, I'm not surprised by the classless attitude from the parents.
Again 1:17 is spinning and muddy the waters as Soccer Nut so aptly described.The article says at age 14 years old and younger, which of course means U15 and younger right now.The article did not say "younger than U14 as you so dishonestly imply.
So which team are you talking that played dirty? MF gets bashed all the time which is fine but state the team and why you felt they were dirty? I've heard a lot of negative things but not dirty.
Leave sat 5, home at 9, more gas?Are you serious?
This is the problem and this is not new this year, it may be new to some parents. It doesn't matter because the only people that will leave are the players not playing and they will be replaced by a new crop that will have the same dose of reality in addition to some new players not playing that previously did. It's wrong but you won't have parent's of kids that play move their kids or speak up as their kids will benefit from the machine and that's what we all want for our kids for them to play and be in a good place. Until kids stop trying out and we all know that won't happen it will be business as usual. All you can do is go to the younger boards and give people a heads up like we had previous posters doing with us.Nothing is going to change but the players looking for more playing time and these are players that are expected to change.GS 4 Life
Can anyone repost the #'s per team at U14,U15 that are 01's, 02's. I remember a few weeks ago someone did there homework and established which ECNL/NPL teams where carrying more 01's and 02's.
Soccer NutI could not agree with you more:"But understand what the politics are around you and what the goal of the club is. Don't make the foolish decision of thinking that" giving it all you can" and sticking it out when youth soccer is a game of politics and extremely bad coaches"So what would you do in a situation where there is plenty of club/parental politics going on that result in playing time and positional preference? Where the coach is weak when faced with overzealous parents? Do you move your child to a somewhat lesser skilled team but better political environment with playing time based on performance/hard work? When the initial 'political' club has the better connections for college minded players?
Man, you are swallowing the bait.....Better connections for colege minded players...What is that?You have to do much of the work, identify schools that fit her educationally, not wait for some mythical magical college coach to contact your grand high exalted and connected club coach.
Never mind Bethesda. In the exciting world of PAGS playoffs, Penn United grabbed a 1-0 victory over FC Revolution. In the process of this great victory, the PU coach was red carded for swearing at the ref, gave the FC Rev parents the finger and tried to fight one of them. Second red card in a month for the Penn United coach. Heard he is a very good coach, but would this be what you would want your daughter to deal with on a regular basis.November 15, 2015 at 5:23 PMJust wanted to reply to this since the recent conversation has turned on playing time/coaching style etc.My daughters team recently played PU and post the game this coach said things to his team that if it were my daughters team/coach there would have needed to be LEO involved. I get it that they didn't play as well as he had hoped but the personal/vindictive/cutting things he was screaming at them it's a wonder there are any girls left to field a team.My kids have had a few coaches bordering on this type of behavior and it wasn't all that difficult a decision to find another place to have them play. NO reason whatsoever to subject kids this age to the poison coaches like this are spewing with the win at all cost attitude.
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