PL Parents get used to PF placing higher than your team. your team won, who cares. Never going to get nod over an ECNL team
NJ CupWhy would NJ Wildcats, more so Match Fit NPL join this? NPL team will receive criticism. Look at teams that join thisGirls U13Club Team StateAmericans Rebels Holmdel FC Galaxy Hub Soccer of Denville Lightning Jackson SC Avalanche Jersey Premier Soccer Flash Jersey Shore BOCA Jr FC Fusion Match Fit Academy FC Black NorthMatch Fit Academy FC Blue NorthMatch Fit Academy FC North East Medford SC Hurricanes New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Grey NJ Crush FC Tsunami NJ Crush FC Tsunami White NJ Wildcats Averbuch Ocean Township United SA Hurricanes New JerseyParsippany SC Parsippany NPL PDA Shore Fusion SJEB '01G NPL SJEB '01G West TBAA Premier Strykers The Football Club of NJ 01/02 GirlsTorpedoes Soccer Club Torpedoes RedWall SC Wave Warriors SC Warriors-Kocela
ECNL does not mean better, it means they pay more money. So if that means they deserve top bracket, that's a shame all around. For them and for the teams who have to play them instead of better teams.
PL bitter parent, get used to this. ECNL indeed means better, to you maybe not, college coaches yes!
7:25Somehow I doubt that. I don’t know who you claim to have talked to, but as an actual Legacy parent I can assure you that is far from the majority opinion.8:34Did your research include the following:Against 4 common opponent this fall both PL and PF are 2-1-1 but PL has a better goal diff.+5 to +4. Each played 5 other top teams at tournaments this fall. The average national rank of Legacy’s 5 opponents was 61 while Fusions was 59. Slightly better but while Fusion went 1-2-2 with a GD of -2, Legacy went 4-0-1 with a GD of +11. Example, while Legacy tied Calvert(Nat #6) 1-1, Fusion lost to FCV(Nat. #7) 0-2and while Legacy beat Creeks Krush(Nat #57) 2-1, Fusion lost to Tennessee(Nat #58) 0-2. Fusion does play in a tougher league. GS would have the ECNL worth 10000 points while PAGS1 would only be worth 8500(higher than any league other than EDP Central, including NE NPL BTW), and although Fusion did squeak out 3 wins against good teams, overall they were 5-3-3 with a GD of +4 in league play as opposed to Legacy being 8-1-1 with a GD of +26. And lets not forget, the other 2 wins were against ECNL teams that wouldn’t even be accepted into PAGS1. Legacy is 3-1 overall vs. Fusion including this season 5-1 "demolishing”(to quote 8:12). And that 4 goal win is twice the margin of the so called top ECNL League team PDA Storm’s win over Penn Fusion.No, I think this was one ECNL club scratching the back of another. No bother, the last thing Legacy wants to do is travel to Jeff to play Calvert, Wildcats, and Fusion again. I don’t think CASL(ECNL) or UFA(DA with hopes of ECNL),(noticing a trend?), are all that either and the Richmond nod is a joke. FCV would have been a great game since its been over 2 years since we beat them last(aka SYA back then) but maybe next time. Looking forward to World Class, Tri State, Ajax, BRYC, since I think we’ve all beaten teams in the so-called “top" division, it should make for a great weekend.9:07Thank you for confirming what I suspected. I assume PF has by now also gotten used to being called the second best team in PA. Hope they enjoy the “top” bracket knowing they didn’t earn it on the field but rather paid for it by being an ECNL club. 9:45They aren’t as dumb as you think. Bloom is off the rose, it was a great idea, but too many weak teams and its becoming obvious you avoid top competition in favor of your little bubbles. Not the way to develop soccer in this country.And not bitter, loving every minute of it!!!
10:09 choice between 2 Penn teams for top flight could have gone either way.Close, but again choice was made by tougher slate of games, tournaments and league.
if Storm was playing Jefferson Cup they would be in the top flight representing nj not Wildcats. Just saying.
And they'd lose like usual. Just saying!
But they would be in top flight not Wildcats (who never win either). Just saying again.
But they're not. So while the Wildcats are playing the best teams in the country at Jeff Cup, the poor Storm girls will be at home, as usual. Sounds like fun!And oh yea... just saying.
10:30Yea, truth is, I wish Penn Fusion luck. Hope they represent PA soccer well down there. Our girls will do the same in division 2. Still hard to believe a team we beat 5-1 got top billing over our team, but I’ve been around long enough to to know how it works. And believe me, if it were up to the girls, they would have been at WAGS and Bethesda. But unfortunately, it wasn’t. Cant do much about the league though.
Hey, "Just saying" coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't cut it. You made your choice to be there, now live with it.Stop making excuses why your team hides behind their mama's skirt.Until they let you come out and play you have no right to say what you would do if they did.Talk is cheap.Come out and test yourself against all comers like we do every top tournament.And please no more excuses on why you guys are hiding.
Isn't it amazing how the people/parents on this blog act like they are in control of all of their club's playing destiny? Like they have direct input to their club's Board decisions and every tournament and league they'll play in. Your thousands are being invested into getting a coach you hope will elevate your daughters play and into a club that impressed you during the previous season. Anyone that talks about parents and players or even a U13 team "hiding" or 'looking to play certain teams", is either totally full of themselves or an idiot (maybe both). The only infuence you have on who or where your daughter plays is where you take her and your thousands. And the statement about college coaches seeing her? She is 13!!! Yes, you want the best exposure for your daughter, but whether its ECNL, PAGS, or NPL. All of these girls have three years of knee injuries, concussions, overbearing parents and boyfriends to avoid before it really gets serious. Lastly, for the bitter overbearing PL parent. Most of the PL parents and PF parents get along extremely well (probably why we are scrimmaging next month), and the PL parents I know are rational and would not have to go back two years in a vain hope to justify anything. So I am not misiformed when saying most of the PL parents are disappointed, but okay with PF going first bracket. You are the minority circling the beach on your tiny island, with the waves washing all your castles away.
Do the NJX Holmdel team tied to Matchfit pay their fees to MF or HolmdelNJX?
11:43, you do you care? If you were part of the team you would know, if not, mind your nosey business.
11:40The only one on an island is you here bud. You clearly think you know far more than you do.
I know that when your not attacking other clubs, leagues and tournament officials. Your busy attacking your own club, parents and other players that might be a threat to your daughters playing time. Yeah, your one of parents. You know, the minority.
A bit tightly wound 11:47. Perhaps you're drunk with all of the Wildcat talk. The 11:43 question was a simple question for a player new to the area who was told to consider the NJX team. Is this an NJX team or a MFA team seems to be all that they are "noseying" about.
MF club get's at least a piece of what NJX collects as part of the deal for affiliating. So far it has been a disaster as multiple teams from old NJX club are imploding this season.Seems everyone was sold on ecnl teams and just not enough slots for everyone.MF Club is scrambling trying to hold on to these teams and the income stream from NJX, but they are going to have a hard time doing that with their planned move up north to Morris County facility.
Sorry, was actually responding to 10:30 and the minority. He was busy ripping everyone and anyone and worse yet, displaying himself as the team dad on the side of righteousness and all thats fair. Puleeeezzzze
To say talent at Jeff cup is best in country is just comical. Good tourney but far from best nationally. This is where all you haters will have to come to terms with why ECNL offers the best national exposure. First off, the regular league plsy is by far the best and deepest. You have a few programs that are soft but 80% of your games are solid games. All other leagues, not so much. You have 1 to 2 good games and then the rest are against town teams. The ECNL showcase in May is a true National event. ALL the top ECNL teams from across the country compete. That is the difference and why you want to be in ECNL. Not saying you have to choose to do that for your daughter but you have to admit, not going to get any better. Just sayin.....
11:40Let me ask you this, if the majority of the parents feel their club is not allowing their daughters and their team to reach their full potential by limiting their exposure to top tournaments, you feel they should just keep their mouthes shut and keep sending the checks or better yet move their kid to another club huh? As I believe you said yourself, it was that lack of top level playing that kept PL out of the top division at Jeff Cup, not the quality of the team. So why would we not express that concern to our club in a hope to influence them? Much better to try to change clubs philosophy toward our team than having our girls move on to other clubs because they are not getting the best experience/exposure possible right?(although I know you are hoping for that). And coming from Penn Fusion, or Continental or FC Bucks for that matter you wouldn’t understand. Your top teams are accepted into the region’s top league and top brackets based on the reputation of the club and the letters ECNL, not merit a lot of times. We have to go out and prove ourselves as much as possible and even then sometimes its not enough. Again look at the bottom teams in your own league and honestly tell me they deserved to be there based on quality. We couldn’t play in a better league than PAGS1 in the fall, despite the critism we’ve gotten for doing so. We are not an NPL or ECNL club, and thats what the “can’t do much about the league” comment referred to. Don’t think the “hiding” comment was made by a Legacy parent, it didn’t apply to PF anyway, I didn’t bring up the college coaches issue either, but you should know there is an amazing 14 year old at your club who just committed to UNC as a freshman. If you think it doesn’t “really get serious” for three more years, you will have missed the boat.Truth is I know you weren’t “misinformed” because I know who you are speaking to. I don’t think any of us feel your daughters team doesn’t belong in the top bracket, they are a great group, just not above our girls. And I would be surprised if any of our parents felt otherwise as you seemed to suggest. And yes most of us do get along. Thats why when I saw one of your parents on here a couple weeks back accusing our girls of playing dirty when they last met, it surprised me. Its also why I wished you guys good luck down at Jeff Cup, which was certainly a nicer comment than: "PL Parents get used to PF placing higher than your team.”or"PL bitter parent, get used to this. ECNL indeed means better” Not sure why you think WE are “bitter”, just maybe alittle disappointed. Cant speak for the other 2 Legacy posters on here now, but I have no ill will or bitterness toward you guys. Looking forward to the scrimmage next month, as its always great to play a quality team like yours.I did like the whole "circling the beach”, “waves washing” thing though. Very dramatic!And P.S. 11:39 isn’t me. Maybe not even PL, lots of people on here just like to stir up trouble.
The NJX Holmdel deal is only a year or so old and already imploding? Details please.
1:48 the top flight at jeff Cup is loaded. And the overall number of strong U13 teams is very deep and will go down 3 flights this year.As good as any tournament except maybe Disney so far at u13.as far as ecnl the Richmond team is ecnl so let's face it, those are certainly not all top teams in ecnl.Looking at Region 1 Champions League top flight there are no "town teams" in that league as you state"are in every league other than ecnl".In fact, bottom half of your ecnl league is much weaker and closer to "Town League competition" than bottom half of Region 1 Champions League.
I have a question for blog:Do you have your daughter play with her current team or should she play with top team if asked to play a few games\tournaments? By playing with A Team, would cause this player to miss a few games with current team.
If the top teams in the ecnl league this fall, Match Fit and PDA Storm, do not win when they step outside of ecnl competition(Match Fit ecnl finished 4th of 8 in top flight of Bethesda Tournament and PDA lost in semifinals in Eclipse event in Chicago to a Non-ECNL Club Team(Cinn Cup Gold)and tied STA and lost to Calvert Crew, both non-ecnl teams at EDP tournament in October), then how can you knock quality of top flights in tournaments like Jeff Cup when they have the same teams that beat you guys in top flight as Jeff Cup does in Cinn Cup Gold, Calvert, BRYC., etc.?
2:06, that is a very tough call. First, tell no one about it, no one, cannot trust anyone.Second, yes let her play, but be very sneaky about it, say you have a family emergency, or something.Third, pray that no one hears about it, especially the parents of the new team, who sometimes love to rub it in the face of the old team.Good luck.
And what you are saying about ECNL would hold true and have merit, if all the girls were of similar talent and in a perfect world have the same chance to advance beyond HS soccer. But you know that no more than five or six on your present team will have that chance. Some players are willing to be a support player and enjoy the adulation of their mom and dad seeing them do well in that role. Others have parents that are willing to spend the money to see their daughter be part of a winning team and that is enough for them. This goes on and happens with every club and every team, no matter what the league is. There is nothing wrong with loving the league your in or the club and team your associated with. And NJ soccer has very good teams with talented girls playing it. But put down the free bowl you receive with your first ECNL payment and get back to reality.
Free bowl, hahaha, are there any more??
I agree with 2:41 go for itHey 2:41 what do you do if this happens within same club?I would still go if in same club
Biggest difference for ECNL clubs vs others.When attending these tournaments, the PDA\MF,WC etc. Do not have to win unlike the clubs like PL, Wildcats etc. Its a win or nothing attitude or NON ECNL clubs to maintain position to be a top team. ECNL clubs, know they will add talent every year
NJX is now part of an academy ECNL/NE NPL program. Please explain how that is a problem. Unless your daughter was not ready for that level and you have sinced moved on..... Please,do not be bitter and find a good fix for your kid.
Can you please tell me how many kids on your clubs u18 roster are playing college soccer next year? I know my daughters club has 100 percent. Can you guess which club?
NJX is not a part of any academy. Some of their players are moving there. 7 other players right now training with and looking for other teams. Some players are already gone. NJX is gone and soon the MF team will combine for one team and the rest of the NJX players will be gone. 7 are auditioning right now. This was a bad hand played by the Holmdel club for the benefit of no one but the parent coach.
3:25Talent always flocks to top teams every year, in most areas those top teams are not ECNLBut thank you for making my point. Some teams like my daughters have to continually earn the right to be in top brackets, others get placed there based on their clubs reputation or affiliation, be it ECNL, US Club, etc. how is this benefitial to the game? And BTW, we never play "win or nothing" soccer. These girls are 12, that's not the way to develop.
4:23Here's alittle secret, every decent club can say that. If your daughter can still make A team at a good club at 18 there is a college for her. Big issue is D1 vs D2 etc. Theres a club in PA who puts ALL their girls into D1, and ALL got $. Can you guess which club? Here's a hint, it's not an ECNL club.
NJX imploding at multiple age groups.same deal as you describe with 7 players trying out for other teams on U12 and U14 team.Best players have already moved on or are trying out elsewhere.Affiliation with MF was a disaster for NJX Club. They were building a strong base before affiliating and now the worm has turned and they pushed all their chips in the middle with MF and lost.
Someone is bitter. All top players have moved up within MF at all ages. Just because you have moved on does not mean it did not work out for others.....
I know its none of the big mouths on this blog;Wildcats,Crush, STA,
I disagree 2:41 why tell no one? Who cares what other people think? your priority is your kid and that's understood!!!!
4:23 That is a bold statement. I would like to know how you know that info? To know that each girl went D1 is one thing but to know that they all got money is another.
"Multiple teams from NJX are imploding this season"You mean not winning at a rate that you would find acceptable?I have news for you - nobody cares what you see as acceptableSoccer a-hat
He DOESNT know, 7:35
NJX U12s seem to be fineEven the 14s had some quality efforts thru the fallTalk about the U13s is just speculation. Still a very solid club, Match Fit affiliation or not.I dont think the move to affiliate changes anything. NJX players would always have had the option to try out for MF ECNL (FALCONS) or to stay where they are....Did NJX lose an opportunity to RECRUIT by affiliating?Hmmm..........not sure on that one. But were they looking for players anyway.....truly?
Real bad advice about playing for a new team while leaving current team in a lurch.If they expect you to do this, RUN far away from that program.
Why are NJX- MF NPL losing players and not adding players. Hear teams are adding players all winter long, Is it just people do not want to play for this NJX team?
The all winter long thing is NEWWhen soccer was a more gentlemanly endeavor on the youth level you had players finishing out full seasons (fall and spring) ahead of making any decision for the following yearKilling a team for adding nobody between fall and spring is such folly
Players have left multiple NJX teams this winter offseason.More defections imminent as Matchfit moves their operation up north to the Morris county Facility.
The fact that you have no specifics speaks volumesJust loudmouth mythology
The FC Pennsylvania Strikers club only produced a team every couple of years. This allows them to focus on one team at a time. Of the three teams that have graduated, 60 girls total, all but one went on to play D1, and she went to a great academic D3, so possibly by choice. Incredible since most of the best clubs in the country are “only” at about 50% D1 each yr. You can verify the college placements by checking their website but you would need to know someone in the program to know about $. It seems that not only do their teams experience the highest quality training and competition, including numerous national championships, the coaches consider it a goal of theirs to get every girl from #1-#20 a college scholarship. Mind you I didn’t say full ride, nor do I know if many are getting money for academics. But I find it amazing that a club works so hard for the future of these girls when its not about making money…Oh yea, did I mention the parents of the girls don’t pay to play there? Truly a model of how youth soccer should be. But again without the profit motive, I don’t see many other clubs following suit.
FC PA Strikers is great if you have a daughter in the age group they are creating or currently have. Which right now is U15, so they doesnt include any of our girls. Their site says they have fielded 4 teams over the last 16 yrs. So the coaches they are doing this truly are doing this for the love of the game. This would be great but just is not realistic.
The MFA Affiliate program as shown on their own web site is next to nothing other than a rolling logo list of the 5 clubs that if you click on it just sends you to that clubs home page. Surprised that they don't also include a Paypal link for where these 5 clubs can send their money.What besides being able to say "we're an affiliate of MF" are these clubs getting? Seems like a desperate attempt to say "we have a program for advanced players" when the reality appears to be that there is really no there there.
The MF NJX program adding players. Unfortunately not your kid. Time to move on. Life is too short.
What is the MFA "Morris County Facility" that was referenced? I heard some time ago that they may be building in Wharton, but nothing in a while. Pretty sure most of the stuff is out of Morris Catholic, but the ECNL teams move around. Biggest variable seems to be where the coaches live. Their coaches live in like 5 or six different counties.
the MFA affiliates receive MF coaching - to some degree. Don't forget, this is a business model set up for MF to sell their training and to provide MF with an insider's view on players that could potentially help their 'elite' teams (ECNL, NPL, etc). Many organizations operate this way -STA and TSF are example of a couple more in north jersey. This is a business for heads of these organizations and they want to make money. Not every club is fortunate enough to have a billionaire that is passionate about soccer and funding its operations.
When are the other brackets getting announced for the Jefferson Cup???
MF is moving most of their operation up north now that they are using Morris Catholic as their base.
Jeff Cup announcing lower brackets today on their website.
If someone could put a link up when they are released that would be great.
Jeff cup has all the brackets together except U13...
Interesting they went out of order.
Must be a lot of back room negotiation going on.
Seems there is some squabbling going on re: U13
9 groups of 8........as I figured
How are u seeing these?I go to schedules and results and only brings up 2014
12:18 you need to know how to manipulate the gotsoccer URL using the event ID which you can grab off of the accepted teams list.
here is a linkhttp://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=39085&Group=Girls_13
Don’t understand what the hold-up is with the u13 group, can it be that complicated?
When the current PA strikers team is college bound, do they form a new team? What age group do they begin with?
I think the current team started playing together at U-13
1:04 they are waiting for the bribe checks to clear.
It's a bank holiday today. That's why we sent cash!
They must still be waiting for the money order
I heard they were redoing the Championship division.
It wouldnt surprise me if they do that.
Oh, where did you hear that, your wife?
Crush may get put way down like their older teams - not sure I would want to go being in 5th bracket.
and just like that ... brackets are gone
PDA crying and trying to pull strings to get one of their teams in top flight.
PDA crying to tournament committee to get one of their teams moved up.
If you don't put all of our teams in top flight we won't bring our teams to your tournament anymore.Integrity of tournament is on the line here.Can Jefferson Cup Tournament be bought???
No way is it PDAThey know Ajax is better off lower.....
4:19 - don't count your chickens.
Lower flights of U13 Girls never posted so why would it have anything to do with Crush? has to do with someone in U13G making power play for top flight who was left off friday when top flights announced.
Whee are lower flight listed?couldn't find it on richmond strikers site.
Heard something coming down with regards to Da on girls side.Will not be current league but will be USSF will sponsor Girls DA.This could be death knell for ecnl.Ground shifting under our feet as we speak.
Championship flight didn't change. Interesting placements for the other levels.
Yes, we did it - we made second bracket..see everyone at Jeff cup! And we did it by playing ten events a year and you can do this too... Just need a lot of time and money.
Feel like an idiot now, 4:19?heh
Second FlightMaryland UnitedCRUSHWorld ClassPenn LegacyPDA AjaxNew York SCCleveland RoyalBRYC
Legacy vs BYRC in finals
Nope. You will get crushed like every other event you play in. Careful what you wish for, I will bet you you go 0 and 3 like every other year and every other tournament you play in.
Other NY/NJ3rd flight - none4th flight - PDA Dragons, NJCSA5th flight - Atletico6th flight - HBC Spark7th flight - none8th flight - NJCSA B team, Manhattan SC9th flight - PDA Shore10th flight - Atlantic United, TSF
Sounds right, 9:05 (PA guy - heh)
CRUSH should be in first flight, they are much better than their record shows. They almost won every game they lost.
Elite OrangeGroup A I guess we see how good Penn legacy is and how bad World Class is as the number 9 Pre-ECNL team. We also see what NJ Crush can do in a nice spring warm up for them. WIDE OPENGroup B NYSC must have thanked the Jefferson Soccer gods for putting them in the same group as Ajax - I bet they have that game circled - a little revenge? I know nothing about Cleveland, so i will pick BRYC to win this Flight (I had them as a championship flight team) just my opnionMARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)PDA AJAX (NJ)NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL (ON)BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
Every year we go through the same thing with FC CRUSH and Jeff Cup build up. I would have thought they would have been a little more on the low down this year, after past results.
You kidding? With such bland unexciting names like "Legacy" or "Maryland United". Who would want and the "CRUSH FC TSUNAMI' in one of their upper brackets. It lets the other teams know theres a big name team in there.
Have you been under a rock 9:59?
How strong is PDA AJAX? Have never seen them play but team did play against PDA at the Penn Bubble two weeks ago. Wasn't sure if that was their team or not and indoor is such a different game.
Apologies for the 9:07 postMissed STA in 3rd flightThey could win that.ACFC Arsenal SkyFC United (IL)FC CarolinaTFA EliteBSTAAtlanta FireCharlotte PredatorsPrince William (PWSI - VA)
New Jersey Cup Applied Girls U13Well it looks like only Storm, Dragons and MF Pre_ECNl are missing. We won't see Storm and MF Pre-ECNL because they have out grown state cups. Let me add I would also like to NJCSA Galaxy and TSF enter then you will have your top 10 non-ecnl teams battle it outThe TopMatch Fit Academy FC North East NPLNJ Crush FC TsunamiNJ Wildcats AverbuchPDA AjaxSTA Morris United 01Jersey Shore BOCA Jr FC FusionJersey Premier Soccer FlashMatch Fit Academy FC Black NorthSJEB 01G NPLPDA Shore Fusion Americans Rebels Holmdel FC Galaxy Hub Soccer of Denville Lightning Jackson SC Avalanche Match Fit Academy FC Blue North Medford SC Hurricanes Mercer FC Spurs New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue NJ Crush FC Tsunami White Ocean Township United SA Hurricanes Parsippany SC NPL Randolph SC Storm SJEB '01G West STA Morris United NPL 01 TBAA Premier Strykers The Football Club of NJ 01/02 Girls Torpedoes Soccer Club Red Wall SC Wave Warriors SC - Kocela
Thank you 10:25 Group B looks pretty tough not sure STA can win it, but I will go with last year's Championship finalist from OH S to win this Flight. hey Jefferson people, one quick question how do you relegate your 2014 Championship runner up TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS). If all the teams that have a beef they HAVE ONE.Elite BlackGroup A CFC ARSENAL SKY (CT)FC UNITED U13G ACADEMY (IL)FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS) Group B ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)CHARLOTTE SA PREDATOR 01G (NC)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
Cant disagree 10:36Flipping Ajax and TFA would make some sense
If Dragons enter you would have 3 of the four semi-finalists from last year.
Njx u12 is falling apart. Some kids moving up to u13 MF team. Most leaving going to wildcats. MF u14 team has 24 on roster and kids are leaving thereas well. They are doing as much shuffling as they can to make things look as normal as possible. Lots of kids looking to leave, damage control in full effect. Doesn't look good when there is mass exodus. It is also true several kids are training else where, even though according to MF you are not allowed
"...kids are leaving there as well"Seems to me that MF U14 is an up and comerThe NJX U12 and U14 has been strong.Players come and go. I wouldnt be so quick to kill an entire program
Too each their own, up and coming or money grab. Two ways to look at it. $2500 x 24 players. Only 11 can get play at a time. Or you look at as 13 think the training better at MF then to play somewhere else. Nobody is killing the program.The njx u12 and u13 teams were both state cup winners and now are shells of what they were
This from the NJX website:Like all high level programs, winning will certainly be a goal but will be kept in perspective. NJX roster sizes will be managed so as to increase available playing time for enhanced development opportunity for each player. Unlike many alternative programs, rosters will not be maximized to generate revenue. Per player costs will be relatively low and will be all inclusive of the entire year-round program, so absolutely no surprise fees.
10:03 that mission statement went out the window when they affiliated with MatchFit. Now it is all about maximizing dollars whether at MF or PDA. No playing time is promised.
Well no playing time is promised, but they sold that tournaments are not about winning, its about development. That went out the window as well when 8 kids play 50 of 60 minutes. Great development for those 8. Last time I checked it was still unlimited substitutions in the tournaments. So if its not about the development then it must be about the amazing training. Guess that's out the window as well when there is one trainer training u13 14 and 16 all together at the same time. Approximately 40-60 kids to one trainer. I guess that leaves the money grab issue. I assume if it wasn't very profitable, they wouldn't be doing it for the loveof the game. Or because they just want to help.
Then maybe it's time to update the NJX web site and remove the NJX program language and insert MF language. Most of the academy model clubs do indicate in writing that there are no guarantees or expectations to be had re playing time.
From NJX web site:March 2013 they announce deal with MF without details.March 2014 they announce the MF/NJX Academy as follows: With the introduction of Match Fit Academy NJX, these players will now experience the unique training curriculum of Match Fit Academy and provide a seamless pathway to the USSF Development Academy & Elite Clubs National League at U14 and beyond. MF is no longer in the DA on the boys side and from appearances, it is vague at best the migration path of girl players from NJX to ECNL save for MF will take the better NJX players and leave the other 90% left to the remains.Not very well thought out from Holmdel.
I'm sorry for stupid questions, but what does DA stand for?
Development Academy, as in USSF Academy on the boys side.
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Thus far the NJX teams are still at small numbers
Unique training curriculum????? That must be during the off season which costs another $250. Your sure as hell not getting during the year. You never know who your trainers is or what time training is. I guess you can call that unique, lol
The last comment obviously from a parent that is no longer with or never was with the programHow they could then have that knowledge? I have no idea.I think its time they just STFU
NJX and MF obviously would appreciate it if we all just STFU and continued to write checks like the lemmings parents have been the last few years at MF and PDA that allowed them to put these bloated over sized rosters scams over on us in the first place.Now that some of us parents are finally waking up and smelling the coffee(because their own kids are sitting out games or playing little), they don't like that we are finally speaking up.Too bad I say.Their attitude is if you don't like it F---Off.
The chickens have come home? NJX/MF parents who do you have to blame? No one said that making the right decision was going to be perfect, as clearly it was not. Do your homework, ask around, go to some games, and pick a team that your child truly wants to play for. ECNL is not the only course to success, NPL is just as important, and just as prestigious. Good luck!
No it's not. But nice try.
If your calling the Boston college coach and you want her to come watch you - would you want to say you play for Pda o Reilly or a team like crush charge npl. Keep in mind - Pda is actually less expensive to play for so keep money out.How many times to you think that coach and 100 others have watched the o Reilly's play?
Everybody writes checks, 1:26. Doesnt matter where you play - or what sport/activity
Depends on the player, 1:56
STFU????? Must've hit a nerve or some truth. Or maybe a little of both
Comparing PDA to MF crush or anyone else is not a comparison. Anyway you look at, business aspect, development wise. No comparison. Like a Mercedes to a beater car
Haha, bad analogy loser, because Mercedes have the most reported problems of any over-priced car, hahaha...
Has crush ever committed a single d1 player in history of club
Do you keep your Mercedes tucked away in your garage only going out under perfect conditions? Are you terified of getting a little scratch on it? Do you like to talk about how many races it could win if only you took it down to the track? But of course you don't. Do you like to taunt other drivers who don't have Mercedes not acknowledging you did nothing to acquire yours and it could stop running tomorrow? Do you make fun of the way other people drive when yours keeps crashing? Do you make excuses when it frequently breaks down by the side of the road? Do you realize the people driving past you in there beater cars are laughing at you?
Young club 2:50, but I believe so, yes.
Boy, it's clear they REALLy want us top keep buying in to these over sized rosters.Now they are saying you are better off not dressing for half the events/games than playing regularly and for major minutes on a top NPL Team?Come om now!You have to play to develop as a player, both physically and mentally.the college coaches went to the ecnl, npl and regular events at Disney last month.If you stood out and could play at the next level, you were seen, and the word got around as it always does.
And on a more interesting note, tonight is the live-draw for the quarter-finals of US Club New York Cup, its got the feel of a Champions League event.Teams that have qualified:EM HotshotzWC CharltonMassapequa RowdiesIntense Soccer AcademyManhattanNew York Soccer Club4 teams to play for final 2 spotsWC Hamm vs. AtleticoLaGrange vs. Yankee UnitedGood luck to all the ladies!
1:26 sounds like a bitter parent who is part of a group looking to get out of the NJX/MF mess. Curious to see how many girls from the original NJX team will be around at U14. Does the Wildcats and PDA dragons benefit from this?
They would be better off going to PDA Shore.
NJX is just the old club teams who now use the NJX name. The original NJX team in this age group is no longer a part of the NJX they helped form and they are being eaten alive from the inside by MF. Sadly, any dim bulb saw this coming.
MF and PDA cost less than many other clubs in NJ.2nd I am not familiar with MF Training down south. I am familiar with North program and North coaches. Our age group coach does all the same technical training offered outside to outsiders are provided during our regular sessions. No need to pay additional. they are at every practice and at times coaches assist with others during training sessions. It is great atmosphere
Yes, go to PDA Shore and play in the 9th flight at jeff cup.
If you bring the whole NJX team you will be a top 5 team in the state. And with PDA you will always have a good coach and training.
Can't njx team is no more
NJX players are training with other teams.
good for them, they should leave now why wait?
Where are they going to play?
You have to find your team a coach and your club a DOC that does not play to win and importantly communicates this philosophy aggressively. There are in fact parents looking for this type of environment. Our coach always briefly speaks to the team after a game win or lose. I would include the parents in this post game meeting so they all have the right script for how to use each game for development.
2015 NY Cup Quarter-finals: East Meadow SC Hotshotz World Class FC WCFC '01 Charlton Intense SA ISA 01 NPL Manhattan SC G'01 Pride Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies TBA Yankee Blast NPL-01 vs LaGrange Rage (PO) New York SC New York SC G01 TBA WCFC '01 Hamm vs Atletico '01 (PO)
Some can say the Final will be played when EM/WC battle with the winner taking it all. Since I love youth soccer and I hate when teams play to win - I am going to make my predictions anyway because the kids do play to win and because that is how the game is played. Thin line. EMISAYankeeNYSCIf the above is the semi-final match up - I can EM playing NYSC in the final with EM as Champion. This is one yahoo's opinion the kids still need to play the games. Good luck to your kids.
8:30Interesting predictions, and I agree that players (and parents) at this age should not be obsessed with wins and losses. However, as you stated the games do count, and a winner is always revered, I will select WC and NYSC and WC as the finalist.The final is a toss-up, with an equal mix of skill, execution and good luck.Just another yahoo’s opinion...
InterestingAtletico will want some payback on NYSC. And if Atletico were to advance to play East Meadow... .same scenario, with EM looking for the revengeI will go with an ISA-Yankee final, mix it up a bit. Like both those teams flying under radar
What I lovE about this is we are having fun with this- and the girls probably couldn't care less about all the sub-plots. I think they just go out on the field or pitch and enjoy playing a game they work so hard to get good at with only one outcome needed, they seem to get over it very quickly if it doesn't go as planned.
9:29, that is a bold prediction, I like your audacity!But before Atletico can get shot at NYSC they need to get past WC Hamm, at home, with much to prove to their club. They are not a bad team, they just need some better coaching and strategy.ISA to upset either EM or WC is also a long-shot, but not impossible.
I like what the NYCSL & NEP did. I believe they used their Fall season to promote 3 teams from each league into spring flight. Is this correct? Was EDP invited to this party? They could have sent their North, Central & South Champions.1 Atletico FC Girls '012 FC Long Island Alliance 013 FC STARS OF MASS NORTH UNITED4 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED5 Hauppauge SC Hot Shotz6 WESTERN UNITED PIONEERS FC RED
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Major changes at Jeff Cup!3 teams moved up to where they belong.
Praise the Soccer gods!Looks like the crazy Penne Legacy guy got his wish, and now he can troll the sideline when, or if his kids team play Penne Fusion. Happy Pasta day!
Penn Fusion would have to make finals. That won't happen. Cincinnati vs FCV
Actually looks like the "Crazy Penn Legacy guy" wasn't so crazy after all. Looks like Legacy along with BRYC did deserve to be in the top bracket like I said. Maybe Jeff cup committee should have taken a little more time with their selections instead of trying to rush the championship brackets out in time for the convention. All's well that ends well though.
"Crazy Penn Legacy guy" here again. Actually I do think penn fusion has a chance to make the finals. And nothing would be more enjoyable than an all PA championship game. Hope it happens, Best of luck to both teams
So it looks like I only missed on one team from what I guessed on January 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM.They went with BRYC instead of World Class, a judgment call you can't really argue with. Hats off to Jeff Cup for doing the right thing.And to the guy who questioned my selection of two PA teams in the top flight, suck it.
Agreed, 2:10. I'd have given the nod to Legacy over PF, but it's great to see both teams in the top bracket. Hopefully the scrimmage on 2/28 will be a preview of the finals on 3/15.
where is "Mr.Know it all" that questioned two PA teams in the top bracket? Must be cleaning that egg off his face (hope its egg). "Legacy Crazy Guy" and "Mr. Know it all" would be great to see nezt to each other at Jeff Cup.
Since I love giving my opinion and playing the prediction game.1st I am happy to see Tri-State and BRYC moved up that's the right call.I still can't believe that PDA Ajax got a higher flight than PDA Dragons since Dragons did beat them head 2 head and won the league they were both in. Dragons this should be your lesson, you can't play locally you need to travel to play your tournaments NE NPL isn't worth what you thought it was Jefferson Cup has spoken and others will follow.============Championship============Group A BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)Group B FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)Cincinnati vs FC Virginia in the Final=============Elite Orange=============Group A MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)Group BPDA AJAX (NJ)NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL (ON)RICHMOND UNITED U13 PRE ECNL (VA)World Class vs NYSC===========Elite Black===========Group A CFC ARSENAL SKY (CT)GRAND RAPIDS CREW JUNIORS 02 PREMIER GOLD (MI)PDA DRAGONS (NJ)Group B STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 01 BLUE (MD)YMS BANSHEES (PAE)Group C 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)Group D CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURUGNDY (NC)FC UNITED U13G ACADEMY (IL)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)CFC Arsenal beats STA to play PA Classics who beats NJCSASTA vs PA Classic in Finalnot mr know it all just a regular yahoo guy.PS. What' the over under for the number of wins the PA teams get combined 1? PennFusion over Calvert?Just a little fun Congrats hope your kids enjoy the experience
Jeff Cup needs to rethink how and when they announce the brackets. This really makes Jeff Cup look bad.Our age group is not the only group that is having teams moving around. I heard the friendlie in PA maybe cancelled now. They dont want to show too much to each other if they do meet in the final.
Typo CFC vs PA Classics in the Final. I'm just a stupid yahoo guy.
2:41 I disagree I think Jefferson did a great job. It's impossible to get everything right. It show's how great a tournament it is always working to get it right. They said Flights are not final until schedules are released.Stupid Yahoo guy is fan -not sure that's a good thing for you guys. GOOD JOB!!
2 deserving teams upLegacy up because GA team dropped out
Well not really... Same could be said for Bryc or tri state. None the less a deserving top bracket! Games will be exciting and competitive all around!
Since I did well guessing the top bracket, I’ll push my luck and guess the finals too:Championship: Cincinnati over FCVElite Orange: PDA Ajax over World ClassElite Black: (assuming A vs B C vs D): FC Carolina (who beat PA Classics) over PDA Dragons (who beat STA) vs.Superior Orange: CASL over HMMS (CASL should be up a bracket)Superior Black: Empire over HarfordSuperior White: Athletica (but look to Michigan as the upset) over McLeanPlatinum Orange: Century over BlastersPlatinum Black: PDA Shore Fusion Platinum White: PA Crew (Crew should be up a bracket)
Legacy and Fusion cancel because they don't want to show to much? seriously? I think they know each other pretty well already. Of course it may give Legacy a chance to figure out Fusion's triangle passing game with an outside mid overlap.
Kind of silly to cancel the friendly. The players on PF are a known quantity to the other PA teams, and there's nothing PL would enjoy more than showing you all their cards and then beating you anyway.
3:32Don't worry, our 9-0-1 formation in setup to counter that exact style of play.
Thank you 2:40, its nice to see that at least one person thinks we have improved enough to make the flight final.
2:11went with Legacy over WC - Bryc was a no brainer
3:25 I think we are the only two that like to play this game. My FINALS CHAMPIONSHIPCINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) Elite OrangeWORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) Elite BlackCFC ARSENAL SKY (CT)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) Superior OrangeATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) Superior BlackSTORM SSA 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)Superior WhiteOAKWOOD SC (CT)MCLEAN YS U13 PRE-ECNL (VA) Platinum OrangeNJCSA ELITE (NJ)VIRGINIA RUSH GU13 ELITE (VA) Platinum BlackPENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)Platinum WhiteATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
4:26, The other day I was looking something up in a dictionary, and I got to the word retard, and lo and behold your picture was next to the definition, strange?
you are not allowed to use the word retard anymore. Its viewed as hurtful and small minded. Using a phrase like "those retarded Wildcat parents", is now considered unacceptable.
4:26 was bored(yawnnn) because there was something other than juvenile personal insults and negativity on the blog and his attention span was wavering.
Jeff Cup Championship BracketRecords vs. each other this fallFC Virginia 3-0-2 GD+4 Penn Legacy 1-0-2 GD+4NJ Wildcats 1-1-5 GD 0BRYC 0-1-2 GD-1Calvert Crew 0-1-2 GD-1 Tri-State 0-0-2 GD 0Cinncinnati 0-0-1 GD 0Penn Fusion 0-2-2 GD -5Total 5 wins, 5 losses, 18 TIESNational GS Rankings#7 Calvert Crew#8 FC Virginia #12 NJ Wildcats #20 Penn Legacy#25 BRYC #40 Cinncinnati#45 Tri-State #64 Penn Fusion
Why is it when people bring up the dirty dealings and lies that so called academy's promise it is called juvenile personal attacks. Comments are obviously peoples experiences with that club. And in my experience of having 4 kids go through several different programs because you have to find the right fit. Most of everything that is stated is true to some extent. And it all goes on at every level and at every program. This blog is for informational purposes if you want, but everything should be taken with a grain of salt. Broken promises, politics and back door dealings are a common occurrence in every aspect of life, why should youth soccer be any different. But you should expect some sort of professionalism from the academies. Hopefully the DA comes to fruition and eliminates the top dogs from their perches looking down on everyone. Karma is a bitch and every dog has their day
Dear GS Guy,Can you please project GS points values for the Championship, Elite Orange, and Elite Black flights at the Jefferson Cup?Thanks!
@6:20 WELL SAID
Dear GS Guy,Can you please project GS points values...I'm not you regular GS poster but I think I've got this right.Championship: 10,000Elite Orange: 7,500Elite Black: 8,000So the 3rd flight looks to have a high GS point total than the 2nd.
They are both "Elite" flights.. You would think that the different color Elite, Platinum and Superior flights would all be similar level.. or is it 1-10.
All this talk about clubs relative to one another - Legacy vs WC for instanceReally should explain why you think so , beyond a couple of resultsLets hear about the teams. What makes their play effective?For instance it has been noted here that Wildcats adheres more to a system earlier on in age than other teams who still spend most of their time on skills
@7:35am, who do you have BRYC losing to? I assume FCV but that was actually 0-0 through overtime. BRYC lost in the shootout.
@10:02, if you look at the quality of the teams, it's clear that the flights are all tiered 1 through 9.
I'm not a huge TSF fan but I've seen them play and I don't think they belong in the bottom bracket. They were in second flight of FC Stars along with WC! Sure they lost every game, but still... They seem misplaced to me. What would have been the Jeff Cup logic in putting them there?
Because TSF is plain horrible. That is why.
72 good teams
TSF aren't whiney b's about their flighting....
"Why is it when people bring up the dirty dealings and lies that so called academy's promise it is called juvenile personal attacks. "Because of the bias. It comes across more as someone having something to gain by the academy's demise, as opposed to investigative journalism.
What are you referring to?
10:18 I just went by what got soccer had. I also know that penn legacy beat both Calvert and the New Jersey Wildcats in shootouts after their 2 ties as well and they could argue they are 3-0-0 but I was consistant with GS, no * beside the results. Besides I didn't post that as some kind of ranking but rather to show how evenly matched these teams are. 14 games this fall, 9 ties, 12 decided by 1 goal or less, only one blowout(which probably won't happen again). There are about 4600 u-13 teams out there that wish they could take FC Virginia to a shootout, or BRYC or any of the rest of this bracket as well. Ties and one goal losses at this level or nothing to be ashamed of, all 8 should be proud of the work they put in to be where they are. These teams are all very evenly matched. Anyone of them could win the bracket. It will just come down to who's playing their best soccer that weekend.
Wow 9 of the 14 games between teams within top flight were ties.Only FCV, Legacy and Wildcats had any wins among top flight head to head.Interesting that Penn Fusion 0 wins in 4 of those 14 games among those teams in top flight and -5 goal differential stuck out among the teams at that level.Of course 5-1 Fusion loss to Legacy skewed both teams Goal differential as none of the other games between teams in top flight were one sided.FVC clearly is the favorite although nothing for sure based on close games and their many ties vs these teams head to head.
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