Thursday, May 19, 2016

U15 Girls Youth Soccer

U15 young women players are not playing for fun, they are playing to win.

Best to step aside, because they are about to barrel through...

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Anonymous said...

Congrats to NYSC on getting the DA - as well as the Cedar Stars!

Anonymous said...

It's boys - but yes, congratulations are in order. Caertainlys eems as if everything is in place for a run at a girls GDA in time.

Anonymous said...

In Order? No. Its a freaking mess...trust me, I know.

Anonymous said...

Oh, well, screw you then.

Might learn how to take a compliment.

Anonymous said...

NYSC has not done anything on the girls side to earn a compliment, nothing. They continue to lose their best players year after year because they don't have an ECNL franchise. The GDA was their last, best hope, to retain some quality players, but it turns-out it was just a fantasy.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to the guy who used to post here whose kid got drafted today. I am sure you are very proud!

Anonymous said...

@2:40, what's wrong with you, why you telling the NYSC guy to get screwed?? Seems like he is unhappy, no need to he so rude!

Anonymous said...

Any updates on the almighty GDA? im hearing they may delay another year. Makes sense, no news and very little happening.

Anonymous said...

I agree, nothing being discussed re GDA. Maybe there will be more discussion at the convention re the status.

Haven't some teams had id camps already like Wash Spirit who has two teams (VA and MD)? Why would they hold these if not going forward? And, these are NWSL linked so you would think they have good intel re what is going on. #Mushroom treatment - kept in the dark

Anonymous said...

Screw me, is that the extent of your brain-power? Even though the club has taken many hits these past 12 months, I am more than happy with my little tiger’s progression. She has shown very well at our tournaments, and can compete with any girl, her own age, in this country. She is the mean machine.

Anonymous said...

President's Day Futsal U9-U14, HS, Adult Divisions. $175 one day event.
Convenient to NY/NJ, Philly, MD.

http://www.playbisc.com/soccer/futsal

Anonymous said...

Hey 1/10 @ 9:59 - ECNL tweeted -
Congrats to all of the #ECNLalums drafted tonight in the 2017 @NWSL Draft!
30 of 40 players are former #ECNLers

And, that is ECNL in its infancy, still. I guess this puts that debate to bed.

Anonymous said...

The post will say in 8 years: "congrats to the all the DA alumni that were drafted in the 2025 draft. 30 of the 40 are former DA'ers. "

Anonymous said...

The league won't be around in 8 years. The GDA will consume thousands of lives for a very select few to make the Natl team, maybe two on average per age year have a chance. Stick with npl and ecnl, get into a better college and enjoy high school, other sports and the rest of your families short time with kids. The over the top bunch can buy into the DA crap and then look back and regret their decisions.

Anonymous said...

Amen...

Anonymous said...

2:01 - Study cause and effect (or chickens and eggs) more closely. Does ECNL have more elite players because it is a center of aggregation (and perhaps aggravation) that attracts those players who would be elite anyhow wherever they play, or is it a place that identifies raw talent at an early age and develops that talent over the course of many years. Take a look at PF U15. If not for the uniforms, you might think you were watching last year's PL U14 team. ECNL players are expendable, so when a better prospect comes knocking, someone is shown the door. Of course, over time, this weeding process results in only the top players being left in the league. Essentially, ECNL is huge ID process, but training and development may be no different than anywhere else.

Anonymous said...

I agree and that's what I've been saying for years now. My kid does not play on an ECNL team (could she, I guess that depends on the coach, but an hour plus one way is not worth it to me when she has quality training at her club).

The top of the pyramid (currently ECNL to be replaced by GDA) is where all the kids that have NT dreams will go and that's what you want as a soccer nation. One league with all the top talent. This top of the pyramid league is to take these players to their next level some are more advanced so the next level will vary. Not only will the top of the pyramid be fore NT players but you will also have the top soccer colleges looking to fill their rosters (not the only place they look,but it will be the 1st place they look).

Development means different things to us when it comes to a club. I believe the player needs to work on individual skills on their own and the club needs to work on vision and tactical work (soccer IQ) and not waste time with individual training.

Just my 2 cents

PS. Does the ECNL also take the blame for the success of our younger NTs teams? If you watched any of those games we are in trouble as a soccer nation!

Anonymous said...

Nah - credit the other nations.

It will be cyclical. I like it better than when we just dominated. Competition is better and we will always be competitive.

Anonymous said...

Any updates from the PDA DOC about GDA?

Anonymous said...

Why is the 2002 Match Fit team ranked lower than their 2003 team on YSR? Are they really that bad?

Anonymous said...

Explaining the math is getting old. Theoretically you need a sample of 10 events minimum to have a ranking. Match fit 02s have only played one weekend so any rankkng you are viewing is not accurate. PDA storm as well. You should have early reads by mid april for those teams.

Anonymous said...

Awesome, so they'll be having tryouts for next year before anyone knows if they're good or not. Makes sense.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Go to the ECNL standings to get some insight for games played. While it may not have the non-ECNL events, it will show how they match up against other ECNL clubs, if that helps. And, I guess look at their Got Soccer record if they attended any events that are recorded on those pages. With new birth year, it's all still being worked out.

Anonymous said...

I recommend actually attending games of the clubs you may wish to try out for.

It doesnt always work with your own schedule and is some extra work but can be eye opening

Anonymous said...

7:32 - Good advice from a truly clinical or business like perspective. However, from the social perspective of a teenager, attending someone else's youth soccer game is sort of "creepy". Probably shouldn't be, but the girls don't necessarily see things the way the adults do.

Anonymous said...

9:11 I agree and this is the problem. If the kid asks the parent to move then you move. The parent taking the kid and trying to sell the kid on a move - well that's not what I would do.

I believe the ECNL was the place to be for years, but my kid doesn't want to move. She has a good coach and good training, so end of story. If she doesn't want it why should I?

Anonymous said...

9:11 - soccer is a huge expense. It's not just a pair of cleats and a ball anymore. So, you check it out.

What if your child doesn't like the coaches' demeanor and playing style? What if you don't? You are the consumer and should do your homework which may mean going to a game or two. Nothing says to stay the entire game, but see how the team clicks, the coaching, the fields and facilities; all of it.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, exactly

I meant the parent going to check out the potential of a club, not the player

Anonymous said...

Keep in mind with ecnl. What if you live in central/South jersey. PDA or MF is it. so you drive 2-4 hours round trip for ecnl? that is majority of reason most dont join. it is similar in pricing I hear? But I cannot subject my kid's to that type of drive. It is actually insane. But obviously if 30 out of 40 is ecnl.

Anonymous said...

@4:39 I guess your a Newbie. PDA is not 2-4 hours round trip from major hotspot in SJ. There is also PDA south branch that has affiliation with PDA's Main ECNL/GDA teams. SJ players also flock over to PA for ECNL/GDA at Penn Fusion as well.

Signed: GDA-Mom!

Anonymous said...

Agreed. btw - Is your child on a GDA already? Or do you just support it?

Anonymous said...

The sample of 3 games for MF 2002 may be accurate - they lost to a couple of teams that played 10 games that were ranked at ~35. Since the scores didnt change from game to game - that ranking will stick for the few months before they even hold tryouts.

The ranking of same age group teams in Cali South shows MF 2002 would not even make the top 20. That will also show you the difference between the DA and ECNL in the future.

Anonymous said...

1014. Thats just silly. You have no understanding of how the math works. Yes 30% of the first ten games is registered but 70% is not and as you get to games 11-12-13 thise first three games lose weighting as the most recent ten games are more heavily weighted. But to simplify if they averaged 35 for first 3 games and 37 for next 7 they would have a 36.4 score.

But in all honesty this system was truly powerful with 30-40 games to compute a score.

The other flaw is the big scores. If you beat a mediocre team 34~10-0 it gives you a 44 score for that game. So the sensitivity by using a sample of only 10 games will create issues. Over 40 games those should be smoothed out.

And if you are using these to gauge tryouts you really dont get it.

Ysr is great to gauge the strength of team you are playing. Good for tournament organizers. But to choise your club based on that. Again silly.

Anonymous said...

10:14 That's a lame analysis for as MF 2002 lost players and are still rebuilding it will take time for the newer players to build chemistry. 10 games is still not enough to gauge rankings as well in my opinion a full season is more adequate. We will all see where everyone stands come summer. They may not be as strong a GDA squad next year but will still compete in the ECNL and will still move girls along to college.

Also you can't even compare DA to ECNL look at the boys side. DA clubs like Red Bulls are not even visibly ranked on GS or YSR. They are in there own world that cannot compare to any outside team. Same will occur on the girls DA side we will not be able to compare any of the GDA squads to outside teams.

Signed: GDA-Mom!

Anonymous said...

Play 3 games, excellent plan to build chemistry with the new players.

Anonymous said...

3 games?? Teams are lucky if they can gel within 10 games. Has anyone noticed that the better the players the harder it is to gel? Elite players who come together on average come from teams where they were the star. Stars don't share very well. This is where the coach comes in, knocks all the diva garbage away and rebuilds.

Anonymous said...

@5:18. pda south, Ajax is not ecnl. The only two ecnl teams in NJ is PDA Storm and MF - right? That is up in north jersey. I am not sure what you mean? To play ecnl in NJ you have to go to one of those? Unless sure, you want to go to PA or Long Island.

Anonymous said...

10:26

MF may be able to compete in ECNL if other ECNL teams take away 1/2 their squads and more them to DA teams? Analysis is not lame, its just weird how MF cant retain talent any more, and are struggling against EDP teams.

10:19 Big scores are not an issue - its variance and consistency in team play. if a team is constantly beating other teams by a high margin - they will continue to do so and their rankings will adjust based on level of competition. if a team narrowly loses consistently to similarly ranked teams - their will continue to drop. and you are correct - latest results - bigger weight.

Anonymous said...

7:08 I agree and they the rankings are dynamic also - As the teams you played play more games and become stronger or not their scores will also adjust the score of the teams they played previously. So if MF score increases that will also increase the score of the teams they played or decrease some scores.

Anonymous said...

Enough with MF bashing can we just move on from them.

Anonymous said...

Initial EDP flights are out -- let the bashing begin.

https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?eventid=57134

Anonymous said...

I'll be the first to bash what's the point of creating 4 brackets of division 1 play among 4 states (NY,NJ,PA,MD). At this age worrying about placing teams that play a short distance from each should not matter. No way 31 teams in Division 1 brackets should be there it's a injustice for the league. Many games will be a waste of parents weekend, didn't U.S. advocate more training with more meaningful games.

Anonymous said...

I agree 12:29 - EDP should have a top of the Pyramid.

D1 NPL (NPL Schedule)
D1 Non-NPL (10 teams 9 games)
Championship top 2 form NPL and Non-NPL

D2 10 Teams (top 4 teams replace bottom 4 from D1 Non-NPL)

D3 and lower Regional Divisions - the 4 regional winners replace D2 bottom 4
more pro/rel with lower flights.

Anonymous said...

Wow dude you’re organized, can you come a fix-up my closet?

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