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Friday, October 17, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

I am from wildcats and I agree 8:25pm don't responding to the Ajax nutty parent who keeps repeating the same 2 scores scores from as far back as 2013(Boca) and the njx mommy ex-coach who constantly attacks us.
Let them talk.
No one is paying attention to them anymore.

Anonymous said...

Didn't know there was a VA/MD following, took my best shot see below

CCL (Club Champions League) - could this become an NPL?

1. FC Frederick '01
2. BRYC 01 Elite
3. Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
5. Beach FC 01G Red
6. DC Stoddert Blue Metros 01
7. Richmond United U13 Pre ECNL
10. Arlington SA Samba Red
11. Loudoun 01 G Red
13. McLean YS U13 PRE-ECNL

VA NPL
1. PWSI Courage 01G Red
2. VIrginia Rush GU13 Elite
3. FC Virginia United '01
4. NVSC Jr. Majestics 01
5. Richmond Kickers YSC U13 G Elite
7. Richmond Strikers Elite Orange

Could not find a league
FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01

Anonymous said...

FC Virginia has earned top spot in region 1.
WAGS Cup finalist, Bethesda premier flight champion, Disney Premier Flight Champion.
No other teams resume comes close.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 10:09, but I think the question was where did they play their league games, do you know? They are top flight for sure, there is no doubt about that.

Anonymous said...

Woohoo, I think they set up a game between FC Virginia and Chelsea FC, give me 2 goals and I will take the pride of the old south.

Anonymous said...

FC Virginia plays EDP

Some team called WEST MONT out of PA East tied them in the spring

PA guy, who is West Mont and was that spring 2014 game an 8 v 8?

Anonymous said...

Westmont is a club based near Limerick, PA. Their current U13 team played Div4 of PAGS this past fall. There is no way this club could tie FCV pre-ECNL. 0% chance. This must be a different FCV team that played Westmont.

The 01-02 Westmont team of yore did well in PAGS Div1 and was very tough to play, with four very strong players. But there was a steep talent curve for that squad and those four players have since dispersed to Penn Fusion (2), 1776 (1), and Ukrainians (1).

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

My understanding is that FCV just plays the U13 pre-ECNL teams of the same ECNL clubs that the their older teams play on a particular weekend. Doesn't show up on the ECNL website but the games still happened. Think that's what all the MD/VA pre-ECNL teams around DC do it.

Anonymous said...

And FVC pretty much plays all comers as a top flight team in many of the very best major tournaments in region 1 and beyond.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have the EDP Divisions for the Spring? Curious if anyone moved around.

Anonymous said...

Has FCV ever played an MLS team? You seem to think that they are the greatest team on Earth, do their feet even touch the ground?

Anonymous said...

"Has FCV ever played an MLS team? You seem to think that they are the greatest team on Earth, do their feet even touch the ground?"

Translation: I wish someone would talk about my daughter's team.

Anonymous said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgLDq9pTsdc

Looks at this propaganda video, I am misty as I post this message...

Anonymous said...

Obviously FCV can't hang with an MLS team. Now a professional women's team, maybe.

Sarcasm aside, FCV was probably the best U13 team I saw last season but it's not like they dominated everyone they played, and they had their share of ties and even a few losses. They also traveled to San Diego for Surf Cup and did alright out there. I give them credit for their consistent results in all of the tournaments they played.

Anonymous said...

An article from last Spring re FCV. Don't think it was posted on here.

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/fc-virginia-open-house-reveals-big-plans-despite-naysayers/?loc=psw

Anonymous said...

FCV Is a good team obviously. They would be fantastic if they could get a great striker. What they lack is the ability to score goals.

Anonymous said...

I think the difference as far as being the best team in region 1 coming out of the fall season is that they finished so strong, winning top flights at bethesda and disney, both were loaded with strong teams (Disney with top teams from inside and outside region 1). No other region 1 team has that resume or number of significant wins and championships thus far at U13.
When you throw in finalist at very strong WAGS Cup flight in october(again highest finish among region 1 teams at wags as they lost in finals 1-0 to Atalanta Top Hat from Region 3) the level of consistency is impressive.
As far as your comment about scoring goals where is the region 1 team who is scoring more vs that level of competition in tournament play?
Look at Storm in Chicago.
Or any other team when playing in these top flights at top tourneys.
Very few goals scored by any team vs that level.

Anonymous said...

I have seen them play. The last time I saw them they had many opportunities but just could not finish. They got several shots off, just missed.

Anonymous said...

3:29 Don't always finish their chances as with most good U13 Girls teams on this site.
That is why the polished strikers are so in demand.
Unfortunately too few of them to go around by a long ways.
Most of the coaches are looking for them.

Anonymous said...

3:29 saw a game

Dont argue with him. :)

Anonymous said...

So let's look at Calvert who alos played Disney and dropped all 3
close games, but when you look at 2 of the 3 gaveup 12 goals to Boston pre-ECNL.
So of CASL and West Florida are not at the same level as Boston what does that say about Calvert? Finished 2nd behind a good NJ Wildcat team with two drops, one to NJ Wildcats 2-1 and one to Pipeline 2-1. However, they do have ONE big win vs PDA Storm 3-2 with no other wins outside of EDP (with the exception of FSA NPL (#6 in NorthEast NPL). I bet they get top flight, becasue they played in 11 tournaments to accumulate all those GS points tosecure #1 in MD and #2 in region1.

For the record Calvert is a nice team just not a top flight team in my opinion yet, just need to see some big wins outside of EDP.


DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN) 1-2

CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC) 1-2
CASL lost by Boston 3-1 (#4 in NE pre-ECNL Flight) at the CASL Shootout

WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL) 0-2
West Florida who got crushed by Boston 9-1 (#4 in NE pre-ECNL Flight) at the CASL Shootout

Anonymous said...

I keep reading goals are hard to come by in the top flights then I see teams like South Shore a very good team get beat down 6-2 by a GA team. I don't want to bring up NYSC and their melt down in MA earlier in the year but I will. I agree goals are hard to come by but I see these crazy scores and I wonder did the tournament people get those teams wrong or was it just a bad day. Just never thought I would see top teams give up more than 5 in a game

Anonymous said...

Statistical outliers exist throughout life

Anonymous said...

Go NYSC!

Anonymous said...

"So lets look at Calvert"

Much of those points were from spring. Seems they cut back at least a bit in fall prior to Disney (which YES, was a pretty good showing taking on the elite - CASL game was payback for Calvert's spring win.)

Plenty of top wins in spring

Anonymous said...

Isn't it fairly likely that a bunch of nj teams will be playing each other in 2nd flight? Especially after last year beatings, there is no way they will be put in top flight again.

Anonymous said...

My bet is that PDA AJAx or Dragons and Wildcats will be in top flight


Anonymous said...

Ajax and crush were both embarrassed last year - they don't derserve another chance. I think dragons and wildcats should be second flight and crush and Ajax third.

Anonymous said...

Can't argue against Wildcats but are Dragons ready?

Anonymous said...

Finaling SC, winning an event and league standing help Crush, make no mistake

But indeed they will likely be 2nd flight.

I'd have Ajax there as well - and Dragons further down

Anonymous said...

Winning an event? What event was that? these guys know that nj state cup was a no show this year - funny you even mention it. Careful what you wish for - only hope is that you send a bunch of teams down there because pda won't take you guys in their showcase.

Anonymous said...

What happened last time dragons played crush in real state cup? Should they be down a level because they play less than half of what crush plays in GS events? And I believe at time of you had two of your most valuable players that have sinced moved on greener pastures.

Anonymous said...

@805.......It's already been established that last Fall's State Cup was meaningless. Something like 14-15 of the top 20 teams in the State did not participate.

Lets move on.

Anonymous said...

5:50 Spring was u12 - Yes good showing at Disney with no result (0 points) and like I said 2 of the Calvert couldn't score on gave up 12 goals to Boston Pre-ECNL. That's a top tier team, they out scored 2 of the teams Calvert lost to in Disney by a 12-2 margin. So my point - is Calvert a top tier team by dropping two games by a combined 1-4 margin when those same teams lost by a 12-2 margin to a top tier team in Boston. Just asking the question. To me that shows they are not at the same level of Boston but are close to CASL and West Florida when it comes to putting them in the correct flight.

5:44 I guess your right.

6:40 Not sure Dragons are ready,but they are the best u13 PDA team at Jefferson. They not only beat PDA Ajax head 2 head they also won the same league they were in (11 games played). What flight they are in, is up to Jefferson, but they should be higher than AJAX that's for sure. NJ Wildcats have done nothing to suggest they don't belong in the top flight and since one of their L's came to AJAX, maybe Dragons should get a chance.

Correct me if I'm wrong - but didn't Dragons beat NJ Crush in a State Cup game the last time they played.

NJ Team at Jefferson rank.

NJ Wildcats
PDA Dragons
PDA Ajax
STA (I can't see beyond Manhattan 3-0 loss and please don't say forfeit - that's the worst thing a team can do, shows no respect)
NJ Crush
NJCSA Galaxy
NJCSA Elite
PDA Shore
Atlantic United

Just one fools opinion -don't take it to serious.

Anonymous said...

This Spring State Cup looking to be the same. No PDA teams and no MF Pre ECNL. rumors are MF NPL will play.

Anonymous said...

Trying to stir things up?



Pass.

Anonymous said...

Dragons tied Crush

Dragons advanced on PKs

Anonymous said...

Please stop with Dragons/Crush. Last Spring and different teams.

Anonymous said...

Thank you!! From oh so many of us!

Anonymous said...

No acceptance for PA Classics in Jeff Cup. That had to be a huge blow to them. They did win the very bottom bracket last year, in a shootout, I believe. Guess it wasn't enough.

Anonymous said...

They took Atlantic United over Classics?

Strange

Anonymous said...

10:49 You have a problem when someone brings up Dragons/Crush spring results but no problems when Calvert does. I agree with you but be fair. That comment was made to prove a point.

We all know some teams lost key players and others added key players from u12 to u13. I saw the Calvert comment "Plenty of top wins in spring" with no one saying " Last Spring and different teams". Be fair

Anonymous said...

You just did.

Anonymous said...

I dont see any evidence Calvert is a changed team.

And I think Crush is getting back to form nicely, with depth and health

Dragons seem to be rising, but the next hurdle is a big one.

Anonymous said...

11:11 This why I am following the NYCSL NPL - It's a very interesting to me NYSC worked hard and put themselves in a great position and were given a gift when STA over booked their fall schedule while NJ Crush and ISA were off a little. No playoffs in this league they will play 7 games this spring an EVERY one is super important to these 4 teams if they want to book their spot to INDIANA to represent their league.

The NorthEast Girls NPL isn't high on my must follow list. I think there will be no change in the top 4 teams. They will play 11 more games and the seeds will be the only things affectedwhich shouldn't matter becasue all these teams have a big sister that can help out with depth once they start adjusting their roster for the u14 ECNL season. The hot team in June will represent this league - not necessarily the best team.

I am curious how NJ Wildcats & STA handle the Spring as both these teams are doing 2 leagues. Nj Wildcats are playing Region1 Champions League for a spot in West virginia which they already have as NJ NCS champion. They should have an easy path to INDIANA via EDP NPL, but I'm sure NJCSA & LVU will have something to say before the party is over. STA on the other hand will probably do EDP and NYCSL NPL again, they already made one mistake when it comes to scheduling, curiousto see how the Spring plays out.

New England NPL NEFC in control with Oakwood having an outside shot if Bayside and Seacoast can steal some points from NEFC.

Virginia NPL - three team race between PWSI, VA Rush and FCV

I think BRYC wins the Region1 Champions league Blue with PWSI and 1776 having a say
PWSI also maybe over stepped by playing 2 leagues in the Spring -we shall see.

I think red is the better flight as it has SOUTH SHORE, GREATER BINGHAMTON,
PENN LEGACY & NJ WILDCATS


Jefferson is the 2nd tournament of the spring season but beat MSC Tournament to the party by releasing their accepted listed first even thought it's 2 weeks after. Either way 2 nice tournaments to follow before the Spring Season kicks of with seats to INDIANA and WEST VIRGINIA on the line.

Anonymous said...

#JeffCup2015 top brackets will be released Friday 10 a.m (boys) and 1 p.m (girls) Booth 440 in Exhibit Hall.

Anonymous said...

Did he just say

"I think BRYC will win Champions League with 1776 and PWSI having a shot....."

right after telling us that WILDCATS are playing Champions League?

Good Lord

Anonymous said...

My bad - I see now he said BLUE

Anonymous said...

2:21 as he said there are 2 separate brackets of 6 teams each, then the top 2 from each side will make semifinals.

Anonymous said...

The CRUSH guy is like the Hess truck, he is back and on a roll. Let's hope for his sake the teams does the same. Was hoping he was one of the parents who went to pda, guess not....

Anonymous said...

Crush is Baaack!!
Start up that Crush Copter!
And charge up the video camera!

Anonymous said...

What do you guys/gals think about youth soccer turning to Birth year rather than July/Aug split?

Is it better for soccer? never understood why we do that does anyone know why July/Aug split.

Never understood how a girl born in Aug would have an advantage over a girl born in Jan.

If this ever happens u13 becomes u14 for the girls born Aug-Dec.

Any thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter

Would just be a different group of girls at the younger and lower end.

Anonymous said...

You don't think it shakes things up a little?

I think it shakes up the teams a lot some girls will not be able to play up a year and may in jeopardy of losing a spot.

However, in another year or two when most of the kids are playing HS they will be playing with older kids if they play varsity, I see your point for the premier player it wouldn't matter.

Anonymous said...

No it would matter for the premier player. Take a club like PDA, you would be combining the girls from the U13 team born in the last 6 months 2001 with the girls from the u14 born in the 1st 6 months of 2001.
For the Premier player it makes no difference in high school. Usually on each high school team there is 2 or 3 premiere players only.


Anonymous said...

If you look at the US National teams, on women's side, it seems to make a difference what time of the year you were born in. I broke it out in 4 month intervals.
1st qtr = Jan to April birthdays

U20 team
1st qtr - 17 girls
2nd qtr - 12 girls
3rd qtr - 12 girls
4th qtr - 8 girls

U19 team
1st qtr - 20 girls
2nd qtr - 15 girls
3rd qtr - 6 girls
4th qtr - 13 girls

U18 team
1st qtr - 26 girls
2nd qtr - 20 girls
3rd qtr - 10 girls
4th qtr - 10 girls

I am not sure why the birth date seems to make a difference.

Anonymous said...

January-July birthdays would obviously benefit, theoretically.

The elite Aug-Dec player forced to play with some bigger, oft times better players, would eventually benefit as well, though some others would struggle

Anonymous said...

Although my child has a July birthday and would benefit from it, I don't see any good reason to change the birthdate cutoff. For the vast majority of youth soccer players, soccer is about playing with your friends,almost all of whom will be in your grade. So keep the current Aug.1 date because it more closely matches the school year cutoffs. Individual players always have the option to play up if they want more competition or for Aug. and Sept. birthdays, to play with their grade.

Anonymous said...

@January 14, 2015 at 8:29 AM: Is that being discussed or is this purely hypothetical?

Anonymous said...

11:10 Purely hypothetical - with an answer to come in days. The Boy's DA and I believe the Boy's NPL are all Birth year. NPL followed the DA.

If the girls get a DA - either a new one or if ECNL is sanctioned by the USSF as a DA then I think they will go to birth year there is no reason for them to be different.

US club did hire a new CEO with big time MLS experience and if US CLub becomes a big player on the girls side with their ECNL and NPL I can see this happening.

That's why I asked the question.

Anonymous said...

The Relative Age Effect (RAE) is very real in certain sports like hockey and soccer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect

That being said, wouldn't the current overall structure (league play has the Aug 1 cutoff while ODP and USSF training have the Jan 1 cutoff) help avoid the RAE? Under the current structure a player born in October is an older player for league play and a younger player for the birth year stuff. Sounds like a good mix to me.

If you are going to make league play also based on birth year, then they should consolidate the age groups into two birth years. I.e., instead of U9, U10, U11, U12, U13, etc., you would only have U10, U10, U12, U14, U16 and U18. This would have avoid the RAE, too.

Anonymous said...

11:37 I agree like the boys do -u13/u14 is one group, u15/u16 is another followed by u17/18. Less teams this will make the NPL teams even more important if ECNL is sanctioned.

I like that the College season will be Fall and Spring now. I also like that we have u12, u14, u16, u17, u19 NT teams also with 12, 14 & 16 being more the developmental ages before they get to play international CONCACAF games

I am also curious to see if they change the below. How many teams play like this or train like this?
This is what the USSF wants from our teams to develop our kids.

Offensive style
All teams will be encouraged to display an offensive style of play based on keeping possession and quick movement of the ball.

Quick transitions and finishing Speed of play, avoiding over-dribbling, looking for an organized and quick movement of the ball and finishing will be encouraged in all age groups.

Position specific
A team must be organized defensively, keeping their specific positions in the formation. However, players will look for spaces and movements to support forward when attacking by moving away from their original positions.

Formations
4-3-3 formation
Teams will use the 4-3-3 formation, either in its 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-2-3 variations. Teams in the advanced stage (U15 onwards) can also use a 4-4-2 formation with a diamond in the middle. This system
(4-4-2 diamond) provides more space in the wide areas of the field for the outside backs to move forward and join the attack.

TECHNICAL
Passing & receiving:
Passing the ball on the ground with pace from different distances and receiving the ball while keeping it moving will be encouraged in all age groups.

TACTICAL
Playing out from the back
All teams must feel comfortable playing the ball from the back through the midfield and from there to the final quarter of the field.

Possession & transition
All teams must try to keep possession of the ball playing a one-two touch game. Players will be encouraged to support and move, thus creating passing options. Once the possession game is consolidated the team must learn how to transfer the ball in the most efficient way from one area of the field to another.

Competitiveness
Competitive players will be rewarded for their effort and focus.

Anonymous said...

If US soccer has girls DAP will it be free like the boys? How will that be financed? Or it will continue to be for well-off kids in which case nothing really will change.

Anonymous said...

Free?? No way. There is no $$$$ incentive to develop girl soccer players. Families are on their own.

hitsoccer.com said...

All young ladies have the chance to learn the techiniques of football from a very yong age

Anonymous said...

Soccer Trolls, really, here???

Anonymous said...

I Posted a foundation to have some fun until tomorrow if you guys want.

STA beat World Class and should be #4, but they lost to Manhattan 3-0 or forfeit, Nj Wildcats twice, Atletico, Calvertt & NYSC which knocks them out of the top flight in my opinion.

1. FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01
2. BRYC 01 Elite Virginia
3. Cincinnati United Soccer Club CUP Gold
4. World Class FC '01 Charlton (beat Dragons)
5. PDA Dragons (beat Ajax)
6. PDA Ajax (beat Wildcats)
7. NJ Wildcats Averbuch (beat Maryland, Calvert)
8. Penn Legacy FC 01 Black (Tied Wildcats, beat PennFusion)
9. Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL(Tied Wildcats)
10. Tri-State FA Elite 01 (Tied Wildcats)
11. Maryland United FC 01 ECNL (lost Wildcats, Tied FCV, PennFusion)
12. CASL Juniors Ladies (beat Calvert)

Anonymous said...

I don't think both PDA teams get into the top flight, and I would switch-out World Clueless.

Anonymous said...

1:15 a joke right?

Anonymous said...

With who?

Anonymous said...

1:37 What's funny - besides yours post. Replace who with who and why?

Anonymous said...

Keeping with the teams listed above, the groups could look like this:

Bracket A Group 1
FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01
Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
Maryland United FC 01 ECNL

Bracket A Group 2
BRYC 01 Elite Virginia
PDA Ajax
Tri-State FA Elite 01

Bracket B Group 1
NJ Wildcats Averbuch
World Class FC '01 Charlton
CASL Juniors Ladies

Bracket B Group 2
Cincinnati United Soccer Club CUP Gold
PDA Dragons
Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL



Anonymous said...

1:50 That would be some flight, yes the list isn't perfect and of course Jefferson will probably have different teams Since I kept it simple just using GS and head 2 head games.

If you want to replace a team tell us who will be the new team and why.

Anonymous said...

I would move Dragons and WC to second flight, and I would move in __________ and _________!

How’s that, better?

Anonymous said...

What ever dude - I was talking show your stuff like below, right or wrong. Anyone can do what you did, but I guess that's what makes you special and me a yahoo


STA beat WC head 2 head.
But the reason I have WC ahead is below.

WC has 7 Ls
STA has 8 Ls

vs Common Opponents
WC 1-0-2 GD -1
STA 0-1-2 GD -2


STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 2-3
ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE) 1-0
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-1
PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-1
Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-3
Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-6
FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-2
Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-2

PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 0-0
ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE) 0-1
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 1-2
MANHATTAN SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE) 0-3
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 1-3
ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE) 0-1
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 0-2
CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) 0-2
NEW YORK SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE) 2-3

Anonymous said...

Relax Mr. Yahoo, just pulling your chain...

I think FC crush should be in top flight, they need a team that wears orange.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup likes 8 team brackets so I’ll go with a top flight of

Bracket A
Tri-State
Calvert
Penn Legacy
Wildcats

Bracket B
FCV
World Class
Cincy
Penn Fusion

Based on their performance at Jeff-Cup last year, I would put in Tri-State (winner top flight 11v11), Cincy (top flight 11v11 runner-up), and Penn Fusion (winner top flight 8v8). And yes, last year is different from this year, but it’s a good tiebreaker and if for Jeff Cup, it rewards teams for a good performance in my tournament and makes them more likely to return. Between STA and Wildcats, went with the State Cup champ. Between Calvert and BRYC, picked Calvert to get a Maryland team in. While Calvert did poorly at Disney, BRYC did poorly at CASL.

Anonymous said...

Assume you mean CASL not Calvert. Either way, I'd put them in(CASL) in 2nd div and keep BRYC in top. Agree with the 8 team bracket though.

Anonymous said...

I meant Calvert. I don't see any reason why CASL would be considered before Calvert Crew.

Anonymous said...

You will find out tomorrow when real flights come out.

Anonymous said...

My bad, no one was mentioning Calvert before you and I didn't see them as I glanced the accepted list, only CES. Should have known. So yea, 100% agree. Planning on watching live tomorrow, guess we'll see.

Anonymous said...

PA bozos taking over the board today

Bad enough bot Penns were in a 12 team first flight. Second bozo has them both top 8

Anonymous said...

Well said, 4:12. Good luck refuting that, Bozos!

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, no love for the Keystone cops?

Anonymous said...

OK Mr. Cranky,who would you replace them with then? I would argue PDA's A team doesn't deserve top bracket, so hard to see their B and C getting in. I guess you could make an argument for BRYC but who else?

Anonymous said...

I know this sounds lame, and it probably is, but if we don't get into the top flight I don't even feel like going...

Anonymous said...

World Class Hamm!

Oops, they did not get accepted, sorry my bad.

Anonymous said...

3:31pm again. People on here are funny. Calling me a bozo but they're too lazy/incompetent to form a reasoned response. And I'm not from PA and my daughter plays for a team not on my list but judging by other lists, a team that a lot of people on here thinks should be in the top flight.

But to answer your snide but otherwise useless comment, yes, I have two PA teams. One is clearly the top team in PA right now and the other one won a top flight at Jeff Cup last year. If you disagree, either back it up with reasons or shut up.

To the one who suggested BRYC instead, here's my logic: BRYC and PF tied at WAGS (0-0) so that didn't help. Since they were in the same flight at Jeff Cup last year, I picked the winner of that flight, Penn Fusion.

Anonymous said...

Dude - get current

No way in ---- BRYC isnt it top bracket

Anonymous said...

BRYC? Maybe but that poor showing at CASL does stand out and 11/8& 9 is pretty current. And frankly there are some ties and one goal wins to some rather weak teams earlier this fall. Looks like they hit their stride at bethesda so they have that. And I'm the guy who said you could make an argument FOR them, but who would you replace? We're talking nothing but top teams here.

Anonymous said...

If you move BRYC in I would move World Class out.

Anonymous said...

Give me 10 to 1 and move CRUSH in

Anonymous said...

"that poor showing at CASL"

This team has 3 titles and 2 seconds for 2014. (I may be light by 1)

Are you jumping at, cherry picking certain scores to go against this?

Anonymous said...

.....and before you downplay the competition level, look at quality wins in their team history. Then compare it to some other teams, such as Fusion.

Anonymous said...

CALVERT

L's
DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN) 1-2
CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC) 1-2
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL) 0-2
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 1-2
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 1-2

W's outside ofEDP
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 3-2
FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01 (CT) 3-0


BRYC
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 0-1
FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA) 0-2
JFC STORM 01/02 (FL) 1-4
CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS) 1-2

Big W's
GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) 2-0
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ) 2-0
MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 1-0
BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD) 2-1

I would pick BRYC -
I'm sorry Calvert has done little for me to be a top flight team.

Anonymous said...

Not picking on Calvert I think they are a nice team 2nd flight for sure. They won 12 games as a u13 team and lost 5
and also have 2 ties. Not exactly a top flight team in my eyes. If you look at them out side of EDP they are sub .500 in 6 games played. Not top flight.

EDP W10, L2, T1, GF24, GA7
NON-EDP W2, L3, T1, GF9, GA9

Anonymous said...

Penn Legacy Top Flight? Beside Penn Fusion beat down Creeks win, no other big wins - Why is this worthy of top flight?

CREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH ELITE (FL) 2-1
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 5-1

CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS) 1-3

CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) 1-1
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 1-1


ATLETICOGU12 (NYE) 3-0
NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ) 3-1
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 4-1
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE) 5-1
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS RED (PAE) 5-0
FUSION FC STRIKERS (PAE) 4-0
HEREFORD HER-RICANES (MD) 6-0


PAGS
RAGE SC '01 Atheltica 2-0
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS Blasters Black 3-1
PHWM Pumas 7-1
HULMEVILLE Dynamo 7-0
FC REVOLUTION Force 5:1
YMS Banshees 1:3
1776 UNITED '01 2:2
LDC UNITED Attack 2:0
YMS Banshees 5:3
PA CLASSICS Academy 01 3:1

Anonymous said...

Going back to your list

Bracket A
Tri-State
Calvert
Penn Legacy
Wildcats

Bracket B
FCV
World Class
Cincy
Penn Fusion

Calvert Out
Penn Legacy Out

BRYC, CASL (beat Calvert head 2 head),either PDA team can make a play for top flight.

Anonymous said...

9:37

Maryland United and Bethesda Blue are not " Big W's"

You were fine with just mentioning GB & MF Pre-E, don't push it!

Anonymous said...

My bad I thought I read on here that Maryland was used as a big win. Just wanted to be consistent.

I take back Bethesda you are right.

Anonymous said...

I guess i listed them because I listed FSA NPL for Calvert. I think they both are better than FSA NPL

Anonymous said...

You guys are daft

Of course Maryland United counts

Look at who THEY have defeated - and soundly.

As with Match Fit ECNL in NJ, dont get fooled by MDFC's rank

Anonymous said...

9:53..

Guess we will see tomorrow at 1:00! My question would be "why exactly is that NOT deserving???"

Anonymous said...

9:57

You must be from PDA. Too funny!

Anonymous said...

Didn't wold Class beat PDA Dragons this fall?
They also played in much stronger pre -ecnl league.
No way Dragons make top flight over them.

Anonymous said...

10:35

I did look, some impressive ties over the last 6-7 months, no wins against elite teams(unless you count PA Crew which I wouldn't) but also a couple ties with not so impressive teams. Wouldn't say beating MDFC would qualify a team(BRYC in this case) to be in top division, other wins more impressive, like I said. They(MDFC) are a very good team, should be second division and have a great chance to prove themselves.

And to whomever said they didn't want to go if their kids team wasn't top division is crazy, Assuming these divisions are 8 teams, second division is going to be stacked as well, with every one playing to prove they deserved to be in first. Going to be some great soccer!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I was the moron who said I did not want to go to JeffCup unless we were not top flighted, duh! Why am I complaining? I guess it's a competitive creature by nature, and my child's success is paramount to me, but sometimes her ultimate happiness suffers. I am weak that way, I am a victim of my own imagination. My child won't even ask what flight they are playing in, they just want to compete, and of course win.

Anonymous said...

7:27 at least you are honest about it.
Yes, it's about your own ego for you and not about your kid.
You are not alone as there are many other moron parents like you out there in youth soccer.
You are the ones who are devastated by losses and complain about your teams coaching and training and always looking to move your daughter to greener pastures and the latest and greatest, while in the meantime your kid is probably already thinking about where she is going to eat and what she is doing tonight on her way home from a loss in the car, while you can't let go.
Then you come home and attack the other team, their parents, coaches,style of play etc. on the blog when you get back home to get even for them beating your kids team.

Anonymous said...

Many of us have egos, but its not one or the other. It can be YOU enjoying the ride - AND doing what is best for your daughter as well.

Enjoy the success of others - yes, even opponents along the way. So much more rewarding this way, socially and in terms of the mental health of player and parent.

Anonymous said...

ahhhh, 7;27 am here, and while I always appreciate an honest response, you have taken it way too far.

I am never devastated by a loss, if sucks, but it happens.

I have only moved my daughter once since u11, for the much better might I add.

We never discuss the game, win loss or draw, unless she brings it up.

Finally, I do not attack anyone on this blog, and while I may poke a few teams, its all done with goodness in my heart.

So there.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry but I laugh at comments like 12:25 & 12;32 telling 7:27 what he needs to do or thinking they know what he/she does.

I'm with 7:27 I want what's best for my kid and don't need anyone to be PC with me.

PS. What makes anyone think this guy/gal isn't having the time of his/her life watching a kid become a young lady and a soccer star.

I am obviously enjoying the ride for as long as it lasts since I found this board to post with other nuts, shills, crazies, coaches, yahoos and yes maybe some kids.

Anonymous said...

12:34 so that makes you a better parent?

How can you say you never attacked anyone but you say that you poke fun at a few teams - this is an anonymous board and you can never tell how some takes your post, what if they take it as an attack?

I'm all about talking soccer from GS, to results to development to clubs BUT NEVER about what someone should do with their KID talk about taking it to far.

I got your back 7:27

Anonymous said...

I'm with 12:34. &:27, like so many others on this board, attacked someone over an honest post about exhibiting behavior many of us share to some extent.
And so what if someone sometimes pokes fun at a few teams? I'm not going to worry about whether someone might take some good-natured ribbing as an attack. I'd much rather have open and honest conversations instead of having to worry about whether some wimp has his feelings hurt by an innocuous post.

Anonymous said...

Isn't that what 7:27 did honest post attacking no one.

So 1:15, you are with 12;34 & 27 which attacked him, but yet don't see it that way. You don't care if feelings get hurt by attacking a team (another kid's child) by poking fun at them. Wonder how you would take it? Let me guess it doesn't bother you because you don't talk about it with anyone you just post about it.

Anonymous said...

jeff cup announcing top flights for girls as we speak.
Will someone post top flight for u13 when it is announced.
thanks.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Wow, really???!!!???

Anonymous said...

Yes. Really.

Anonymous said...

I’m sorry, but if Ajax gets into the top flight, I am going to throw-up.

Anonymous said...

They didn't but that is the least of it

Anonymous said...

One teams u12 one never played before?

Anonymous said...

Calvert, Wildcats penn fusion, UGA

Anonymous said...

Richmond United, cinnC

Anonymous said...

Boys, they could not be more stupid....

Anonymous said...

Bracket A
Calvert
CASL (NC)
Wildcats
FCV

Bracket B
UFA (GA)
Cincinnati
Penn Fusion
Richmond

Anonymous said...

cASL, fcv, and UFA sorry

Anonymous said...

Richmond United. What a joke! Just on results and skill (ignoring GotSoccer), they're not in the top three of Virginia, maybe not even the top 5. The only reason they made the top flight is because it is a Richmond Strikers tournament. It's shameful that Jefferson Cup is playing favorites with its club team.

Anonymous said...

Calvert in

Good luck, Wildcats. Enjoy the process.

Seems we all overlooked the home squad

Anonymous said...

Bracket A
Calvert #1 MD #6 Nat
CASL (NC) #1 NC #131 Nat
Wildcats #2 NJ #11
FCV #1 VA #7

UFA (GA) #2 GA #83
Cincinnati #2 OH # 41
Penn Fusion #4 #63
Richmond #22 # 849

Anonymous said...

No one overlooked the home squad, its just that they don't belong in the top flight, and probably not even in the second flight. It just goes to show that all of the tournament's talk about their careful selection process is a load of crap.

Did you see what was the team's qualification listed in JeffCup's twitter post? "training for first ECNL season" That applies to every pre-ECNL team in the country but at leasta lot of those other teams have played in and won tournaments. Richmond United has done nothing.

Absolutely disgraceful.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know when the other brackets will be announced, and I have to agree, Richmond getting the nod over many other more deserving teams is a complete disgrace.

Anonymous said...

The Georgia team wasn't even listed in the accepted teams.

Jeff Cup has really screwed this up.

Anonymous said...

Richmond who?? Over Penn Legacy who beat Penn Fusion 5-1?! Wow... Speechless.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup Girls U13 Championship Flight
Projected Flight Value 9,500.

GS Rank
6 CES Calvert CREW White
7 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01
11 NJ Wildcats Averbuch
41 Cincinnati United Soccer Club CUP Gold
63 Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL
131 CASL CASL Juniors Ladies
4020 Richmond United U13 Pre ECNL
83 UFA Premier (Not on Accepted list - ooooppps)

Calvert and Richmond I would have not picked, Congrats to all the teams and Good Luck, curious to see how this plays out.

For the GS lovers 2nd Flight and 3rd Flight to carry a bunch of points unless another Richmond type selection happens.

Anonymous said...

Dude, that’s just the top flight, relax....

Anonymous said...

Anyone's daughter have experience with Next Gen USA programs? What do you think? What have you heard?

Anonymous said...

2:56, get out of here with that, we are all complaining about Jeff cup!

Anonymous said...

So Richmond United is a combination of Richmond Strikers and Richmond Kickers. Last year, the Strikers’ A team won one game in State Cup before losing 4-1in the semis. The Kickers A team lot in the quarterfinals 5-2 to the same team who later beat the Strikers. And yet we’re supposed to believe that a combination of two mediocre teams now belongs in the top flight of Jefferson Cup. What a crock.

Anonymous said...

This will not stand, I am calling my Congressman!

This is madness...THIS IS SPARTA!!!

Anonymous said...

really Good teams - to be placed in flights together, so they are not in the championship flight, they will get some good games played and equal GS points if not more than the top fligt.

CFC Arsenal Sky
NJ Crush FC Tsunami
Tri-State FA Elite 01
1776 United Xtremes
BRYC 01 Elite
Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
New York SC G01
Oakwood Soccer Club
PDA Ajax
PDA Dragons
Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
STA Morris United NPL 01
World Class FC '01 Charlton

Anonymous said...

Yeah Jeff Cup Conversation more important. Waste of time if your team is not in the top 2 brackets what is the sense of traveling down there to compete in 3/4 brackets.

As for Next Gen if not selected for the free TIP program don't waste the money they ask to pay for camps other programs within the umbrella to support salaries. Bunch of guys that got greedy and walked away from a huge pool of kids in the EDP league to develop. They are looking for a bigger pay day which is not happening.

EDP TIP to College was just announced and will evolve more into the EDP league and universities connection.

Anonymous said...

Now mind you, I am partial because my kids team did not make the so-called top flight, but I am hopeful that after looking at this list, she will have a great and competitive time with some of the best teams on the East Coast of these United States...

Anonymous said...

Bracket A looking a lot harder than Bracket B, IMHO.

Anonymous said...

Assuming JeffCup goes by quality and results (and not club connections again), the second flight should be worth more GotSoccer points than the top flight – STA, World Class, BRYC, Ajax and Tri-State should make the flight worth 10,000 points.

Anonymous said...

@3:29, they're probably trying to give Richmond United a chance to tie a game, so their choice would look quite so pitiful.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know when the other flights will be announced?

Anonymous said...

Bracket A
Calvert
CASL
Wildcats
FCV

UFA
Cincinnati
Penn Fusion
Richmond

I disagree
Cincinnati is a top team rankings aside Top Drawer has them as 14 ahead of FCV. PennFusion is a solid Team and UFA beat SouthShore 6-2. Richmond oh well.

FCV top Region1 Team followed by a strong Wildcats team both will beat CASL and CES. I think CASL beats CES again who will drop another 3 games in my opinion. FCV vs Cincinnati in the Finals. But of course they have to play the games this game is not played on paper or in some yahoos mind.

Anonymous said...

For my GS friends - all you need is 5 of these 12 teams in the same flight and you will have a 10,000 max flight. So Both 2nd and 3rd in addition to having great comp should have max GS value - consider this a gift for some teams that missed the Championship Flight. Honestly the 4th flight will probably carry some serious points as well if GS is your cup of tea. From a comp level - I don't think Jeff will disappoint.

5 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
8 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
22 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
29 BRYC 01 ELITE
31 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
37 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA
44 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01
47 NEW YORK SC G01
51 NJCSA GALAXY
54 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
55 OAKWOOD SC
55 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS

Anonymous said...

3:36 agree.
Other than choosing their own clubs home team for top flight,(they did this in the other age groups and let's face it PDA does same thing) the jeff cup did a very good job of choosing the best 7 teams.
Jeff cup did not go by just Got Soccer Rankings and most on this site are constantly saying that is not most important characteristic of true ranking so you can't argument there.
It's obvious they only took 1 team per state other than grandfathering in their own Richmond team so if you disagree with top flight you have to argue that for instance, Penn Legacy deserves to flight over Penn Fusion or TFA deserves top flight over Cinn.
Cinn clearly correct choice over TFA(although TFA very good team) and Penn Fusion plays better comp than Legacy so better resume overall.
Other than good showing at Spirit top flight back in august when did Legacy test themselves vs top comp?
No other top tournaments entered and weak league.

Anonymous said...

Depends on the cutoff for the top points. I put it at the 47th ranked team, so I doubt the third flight will get max points. Should still be alot of points though.

Anonymous said...

4:01 agreed. Same reason BRYC didn't make it as FCV was choice for top flight from Va.

Anonymous said...

I really like that 47th ranked team, don't you?

Anonymous said...

It's not that I like the 47th ranked team. It's that GotSoccer lists 4668 U13 teams and a team has to be in the top 1% to contribute 10,000 points to that tournament points.

Just in case you still can't comprehend the logic, 1% of 4668 is 46.68. I rounded up to 47.

Anonymous said...

60 deep will get you max GS points since there are 4,020 ranked u13 teams.

Anonymous said...

@4:01, you can't say that they took the best teams and then also say "t's obvious they only took 1 team per state." If they truly took the 8 best teams (or 7 if you allow for the travesty of picking a mediocre club team), they would have picked teams regardless of home state

Anonymous said...

From http://home.gotsoccer.com/support.aspx?content=support&section=Rankings&HelpID=118

"Teams in the top 1% contribute 10000 points."

By your count, would have to be top 40.

Anonymous said...

Full brackets out on Monday 1/19, in case anyone was wondering.

Anonymous said...

4:17 I am not saying they only took the best 7 teams.
I am saying they they took the best team in their opinion when there were 2 teams from the same state in consideration for the top flight.
This is true of many of these tournaments as they want a diverse group of teams so that teams that travel to come to the tournament will not play the same teams as they play in their own state .

Anonymous said...

Cinncinati Cup gold and FC Virginia look like the 2 favorites in Top flight.

Anonymous said...

60 / 4020 = 1.4925% 0R 1%

Anonymous said...

4:37 I am okay with that if you look at leagues you still have the below and there are still more quality teams

CCL #1 = FC Frederick
PAGS #1 = Penn Legacy
Virginia NPL #1 = PWSI
NYCSL NPL #1 = NYSCL NPL
NYCSL PL#1 = Atletico
NE Girls NPl #1 = PDA Dragons
NE NPL #2 = Oakwood

Plus Pre-ECNL
Continental FC Delco ECNL '01
World Class '01 Charlton
Bethesda SC Academy 01 Blue
Maryland Utd. 01 ECNL
Ohio Premier Fire Girls U-13 Red
McLean YSA U13 PRE-ECNL

Anonymous said...

"......and there are still more quality teams"

Right. This is the beauty of this event. First flight or fifth you are getting 3 excellent games.

Anonymous said...

Unless you're playing Richmond United, then you only get two.

Anonymous said...

You dont assume they have a decent club?

Do you really think they would put themselves in a position to go 0 goals for and 12-15 against?

Anonymous said...

Is that the same Richmond United team that finished as finalist in the third bracket at the CASL Shootout?

Anonymous said...

Richmond United is 849th in Nation and 22nd in VA yet they were placed in the top division at Jeff Cup. Insane.

Anonymous said...

Defeated MD United Red, who soundly defeated Ajax and a few others.

BRYC likely better - we'll see

Anonymous said...

You mean Dragons and Ajax didn't get in top flight at Jeff Cup.
PDA, you have some esplaining to do.
Didn't they say their B Teams would be Competing in the top flights of all but the ecnl events?
Guess there is not as much respect s they thought for their B Team league, NE-NPL.

Anonymous said...

They'll be there next year. Don't worry. They will be taking your teams place. Hard to be seeded at the top this year when you haven't played the top tournaments or have been trolling for Got Soccer points. This tournament is the beginning.

Anonymous said...

Better start making that Kool-Aid you serve up there a little stronger.
Those brackets were not decided by Gotsoccer points.

Anonymous said...

Older groups top lights at Jeff Cup are the same as U13 top flight.
A mix of teams from both non-ecnl and ecnl clubs.
There is no monopoly for the ecnl clubs.
Best teams are chosen regardless of club.

Anonymous said...

Richmond United beat Md United's B team at CASL, not MUFC's pre-ECNL. Trust me, there's a big difference between the two.

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt Richmond Strikers are in as a homer.
But they did the same thing in every age group by putting their ecnl team in every age group in the top flight.
Just another example of ECNL teams not being the be all end all.
some very weak teams in ecnl.

Anonymous said...

Yes 6:13

It was never stated otherwise.

The MDU B team had quality wins under its belt, as was said.

Anonymous said...

I think teams will speak up if they feel they were improperly flighted. Adjustments could be made.

Lets see what Monday brings.

The U11 seemed a bit screwy as well.

Anonymous said...

Georgia team beat CASL at Dismney, lost 1-0 in final to FC Virginia

Anonymous said...

Dragons might get 1 win in 4th or 5th flight....

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Anonymous said...

Someone has an infatuation with PDA. Not healthy. Worry about your own team and their lack of winning.

Anonymous said...

Teams not in the top flight

League Finish:

CCL #1 = FC Frederick
PAGS #1 = Penn Legacy
Virginia NPL #1 = PWSI
NYCSL NPL #1 = NYSC '01
NYCSL PL#1 = Atletico
NE Girls NPl #1 = PDA Dragons

plus teams in the top GS National 60

5 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
8 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
29 BRYC 01 ELITE
31 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
37 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA
44 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01
51 NJCSA GALAXY
54 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
55 OAKWOOD SC
55 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS

Plus Pre-ECNL Teams
Continental FC Delco ECNL '01
Bethesda SC Academy 01 Blue
Maryland Utd. 01 ECNL
Ohio Premier Fire Girls U-13 Red
McLean YSA U13 PRE-ECNL

That's 21 teams if they keep it 8 teams per flight a strong 2nd and 3rd for sure.

Anonymous said...

Second and third flights will be quite good

Anonymous said...

Yes , the 2nd and 3rd flights will be also strong. It's so nice to stay positive. It's the stats that you have in front of their names that is obviously not relevant as to what flight they are put in. If you look at "those" numbers they are higher than some of the ones that are in top bracket. 11:53 and 12:53 did your girls make the top bracket?

Anonymous said...

1:49, what is your point? Are you actually trying to justify the selection process of the Jeff cup committee? Are you for real? Everyone knows that some of those teams are NOT top flight material, please, go back to your rock, and take another nap.


Anonymous said...

11:38 here - My kid will not be playing Jefferson.

They used hat was important to them (it looks like u12 events as well).

I respect their decision - I would not have included Calvert, PennFusion & CASL based on u13 results, but that's my opinion. I'm okay with the Homer selection it is their tournament.

Anonymous said...

Answer the question...did your daughters make top bracket? We really do appreciate the pep talk.

Anonymous said...

2:09 what part of 2:07 don't you understand? If they are not playing they can't be in Top Flight? Does that make you fell better?

Penn Fusion in 3 u13 tournaments not their own - 4 Ls, 3 Ts an a win over Ajax and Pipeline.

Calvert in 2 tournaments outside of EDP and their inflated GS values - 3 Ls, 2 Ts and a win over Pipeline

CASL lost West Florida twice who went 0-3 at CASL with a - 10 GD in top flight and 1-2 at Disney with only win vs Calvert. But they are in 3rd place in NPL league

Anonymous said...

Calvert was in second flight last year and made a joke of it

8 goals for 1 against

Anonymous said...

Then again same could be said for Penn Legacy - in 8 v 8

Second flighted - 11 goals for 0 against

Anonymous said...

Other than home teams selection there is not 1 team in top flight that you can say another team from their state should have made it above.
jeff cup did a very good job .
Never gonna plaease everyone but unless rhey were willing to take 2 teams from the same state(bryc and fcv, wildcats and dragons,sta or ajax, cavlert and maryland untied,TFA and Cinn Cup Gold, Penn Fusion and Penn Legacy),
they decided to split the top flight among the best entrants from each state, and they did a great job in every case of picking the best team from those applied from a given state.

Anonymous said...

Yes

That should end discussion

Thanks, 5:23

Anonymous said...

These flights and the 2nd and 3rd flights when they come out on monday tell you where your team really stands in the minds of those who make the decisions that matter, like flighting at major tournaments.
The opinions of parents as to their own teams ranking/status are meaningless.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I said they will have a tough decision before they made it and will probably get some wrong.

My only problem is if they took u12 results and tournament placements that would be wrong for this age group at u12 half the states played 8v8 and the other half 11v11 so any top flight wasn't a top flight because only half the entrants were eligible.

So going by u13 results you can't with a straight face say Calvert is the best in MD or maybe you can. PennFusion can't be the best in PA with the results they had plus the beat down they got from Penn Legacy.

But it is what it is - just don't come on here and say "Answer the question...did your daughters make top bracket?" that's bush.

Anonymous said...

6:09 You can certainly say calvert is best in maryland by u13 results so far. Maryland united doens't have a comparable win to match calvert win over storm.
After all they have a win over pda storm in nov.
Also other than spirit tournament legacy just hasn't played any good teams so penn fusion has played the much tougher opponents(spirit, bethesda, wags, pre-ecnl league and probably got a slight nod based on that. Legacy will get thir chance to prove themselves in region 1 league this spring with many tough games.
Same argument you had in college football final four picks.
Strength of schedule has to play a part in the process to be fair.
Teams that enter all the top tournaments like calvert and penn fusion get a slight nod for playing so often vs top flight comp and holding their own vs the best teams out there on a regular basis.

Anonymous said...

The Legacy parents I have spoken with feel the Fusion nod was a legit choice. Fusion was in the Jeff cup bracket above them last year and most likely should have been chosen first. Legacy needs another strong spring to prove they belong with the top teams. Winning games in the Champions League will help.

Anonymous said...

6:39 I agree with what you are saying, i just have a different opinion thats' all - my kid isn't playing in this tournament, so I really am just offering my opinion on how I see things - no feelings one way or another. Take it for what it's worth one yahoo's opinion nothing more.

PS. I don't think it's right to give a team top flight just because they played Spirit, WAGS, Bethesda, FC Stars or any other major event. Call me crazy but I am one that sees things as simple as this. Penn Legacy wins their League and beats Penn Fusion head 2 head by 4 goals in addition to having better tournament results but don't get the nod because PennFusion's league is stronger? But if we look at PDA Ajax they get the advantage because they played in more major events than PDA Dragons, but PDA Dragons have beat them head 2 head and finished ahead of them in the same league, I am willing to bet they will finish behind Ajax because they played in local tournaments to prepare for their league instead of playing at Spirit, WAGS or Bethesda. Something is wrong with this picture.

Like I said I do understand what you are saying - I just have a different opinion which happens to be a minority on this board.

Anonymous said...

Having played Calvert and MD United, Calvert is better.

Anonymous said...

I respect that and I respect the Jefferson top flight as well. Just gave my opinion which was a little different.

Will have fun with the rest of the flights once released and then move onto the MSC.

Anonymous said...

Legacy beat, no, demolished PF. Beat Creeks, tied Wildcats, and tied Calvert. That's not enough to prove worthy of top bracket? Far more worthy than Richmond and AT LEAST as worthy as PF!

Anonymous said...

On a side Note - Shaping up nice so far

16th Annual FC DELCO Players Cup
5/22/2015-5/25/2015
Teams Applied Girls U13

Top teams in my opinion:
Boston breakers Academy GU13 ECNL
Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite
Greater Binghamton United FC 01 Select
Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
Waza FC East 02 Juniors

Honorable mention:
Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue
NJCSA GALAXY
Pipeline Soccer Club Black
Seacoast United Elite - DR- 01/02

Followed by:
DMS Soccer GU13 Academy
Hauppauge Hot Shotz
Alleycats Premier Mayka 01/02
Alleycats Soccer Club Elite Neko 01/02
Beach FC 01G Red
Bethesda SC Academy 2001 White
Continental FC Barca '01F NPL
Quickstrike FC Elite
Herndon Youth Soccer Hooligans
LaGrange Soccer Club
Maryland United FC 01 Red
Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies
Medford SC Hurricanes
RI Strikers FC 01/02G-Bowden
Smithtown Stars

Anonymous said...

8:12 I see your point - However, since you made me do more research I have changed my opinion on PennLegacy and PennFusion.

Penn Fusion has some really big wins vs Region1 heavy weights and also tied Wildcats. I can see why they got the nod. But I do agree Richmond should not be in the top flight - they took a spot from a team that deserved it just because they are the host. But the host always gets a bye into the tournament - World Cup, Olympics so why not Jefferson.

1-0 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
2-1 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
3-2 Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

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