Thursday, May 19, 2016

U15 Girls Youth Soccer

U15 young women players are not playing for fun, they are playing to win.

Best to step aside, because they are about to barrel through...

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Anonymous said...

4:03pm So let me guess you went to a ID camp and a batch of PDA players were there also, and in your mind your daughter performed just as well or better than those campers. Again thanks for donating into the camp pool, your generosity is much appreciative!

Did you look at the latest roster of that school you attended and see where all the latest recruits came from? Did your club coach receive feedback from the camp afterwards? It's a paid tryout and yes you can get on the radar but it's rarity unless the club coach and school have talked and recommended.

Anonymous said...

I think we are good. But thanks for the concern.

Anonymous said...

There are a few good reasons for attending IDs.

It does not always have to lead to any big time interest from that particular school. Getting a look at a collegiate type workout - getting better, more comfortable in "tryout"-like sessions......

Even just seeing it as extra work - combines with meeting a few new mates........

Some will end up attending and playing at that school - yep - but it is not a zero - a total waste - for those that do not.

Anonymous said...

If D1 is the goal(at this age level), then ID camp is necessary and often a follow up to a showcase interest. Another person's experience....They get you on their turf where they can have more communication, per NCAA rules

Anonymous said...

7:49 totally agree ID Camp or any camp is primarily a follow up to showcase interest. As someone stated before there needs to be interest and you'll here from your club coach if there is any from a most recent showcase or game visit. If not it's just pay to play good experience for your daughter to see a college training or workout but how many are you as a parent willing to fork over knowing there is no incoming interest is what you have to ask yourself as a parent.

Anonymous said...

Attended in pre-9th and pre-10th grade summers

And I can say the positive is that before they didnt know her and now, clearly they do.

All depends on the player and how they approach the sessions, I'd say.

Anonymous said...

1:26 Any Offers?

Anonymous said...

No reason for us to move that quick, 2:08

Havent looked at 1/3 of the schools that we'd like to yet.

Anonymous said...

Offer does not equal commitment

Anonymous said...

10:17 Well it seems your moving pretty quick already going to camps and looking at 1/3 of the schools. Again to each their own, but remember many parents aren't or not working as hard as you are and will get to the same ending.

Anonymous said...

:)

Anonymous said...

My hope is that we ALL get the same ending, 10:12.

A school which is the perfect fit for our student athleten and our family.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Well said 1:53

Anonymous said...

Oh look, Disney Brackets are up:

https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=52947&GroupID=534813&Gender=Girls&Age=15

and yes, this is the ONLY flight that matters...duh

Anonymous said...

8:51 Seriously! NL Bracket doesn't matter. Come on now.

Anonymous said...

Thats weak. Pipeline has beaten all those teams.

Anonymous said...

interesting top bracket. I like Pipeline in 2nd bracket, well deserved. And SJEB are up and coming as on NJ team

Anonymous said...

All this on who comes out on top is irrelevant as there is no Trophy or Medal at the end of this tunnel and going forward at Showcase's. It's about a player putting out results so a school can recognize her, that's the most important thing here not on who comes out on top.

Based on my experience from my eldest daughter's older team this also seems the age period where parents from very strong youth teams tend to separate themselves. As feelings if a coach placing a player in a different position or play longer to showcase her for a school versus those parents that care about more about winning a game or complains about decrease playing time start as well.

Anonymous said...

Both Showcase flights are tops, no distinction, unless you are a Mom. If you are a Mom 11:19, by all means continue to talk about Pipeline, or as we say in the North Pipe-dream....

The North Remembers.

Anonymous said...

Although the guns of Fort McHenry were turned on Baltimore to compel the citizens to behave, Maryland did stay with the North.

Anonymous said...

Let's see which flight attracts more coaches!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but which flight has the hottest Mom's??

Anonymous said...

That would be the flight going to the Bahamas.

Anonymous said...

To 257 The flights with the most Florida teams.

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats Averbuch playing u16, they are 2002. The age change. Are they allowed to play up at a tournament. Averbuch was u14 prior to change.

Anonymous said...

11:10 Averbuch played u14 with 01s their results from last year can't be used for any 2002 event.

Anonymous said...

11:10 the problem is some clubs did one of the following:

A: used the u14 gotsoccer accounts for the correct age u16.

B: rolled up the u14 gotsoccer accounts to the next age U15 which is wrong but is the next age in sequence.

Anonymous said...

11:44 & 11:48 here again one last time on your post 11:10

So when the prior year U13s used the correct move for this year their team's account became u15 and are now being compared to u14 teams that just used the next age in sequence.

So we have results that had 03s and results that had 01s playing with 02s to determine 2002 flights.

Anonymous said...

Bottom line is GS is not useful for any team at U15 and above right now. To many teams just recently started fresh and rolled points over, it will take at least the end of spring to see true results on GS. Many are following YSR website right and so are many tournament directors to state a fact to help with playing history of only most recent 10 games played by each team. Sorry YSR trumps GS for now.

Anonymous said...

Not just for now - always did. That is the perfect tool for tournaments. GS dropped the ball. They rolled up every team the correct way and then let them change their age group and now you have what you have with GS - Garbage. They have game results but only their tournaments or what they put in manually.

YSR the way to go

Anonymous said...

YSR also has it's faults as it is a stand along system/person(s) adding the game results from different sources. some of those sources are still missed like the ECNL/NPL games recently played or the NL in NC. But yes I agree it's the a lot closer in accuracy than anything else.

Anonymous said...

Ten games is more then enough to gauge the strength of a team. YSR is the only rank to follow, even though they are not "global!!" Happy holidays everyone. If some of you are heading to Florida over the holiday good luck to the players and safe travels.

Anonymous said...

2:05 you are wrong ECNL League games, Showcase games (just look at the VA teams) are all included and so are NPL games. The ECNL and NorthEast NPL sites are not up to date so how do you expect YRS to include results not posted?

Anonymous said...

Doesnt YSR also use last year's results to judge teams that may look entirely different at this juncture?

Anonymous said...

4:11 nope - YSR only has games after 8/1/2016. No smoke and mirrors you are what you are.

Anonymous said...

Your Region 1 2002 top 10

38.42 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)
37.90 PIPELINE SC PLSC BLACK (MD)
37.78 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE)
37.78 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY BLUE (NJ)
37.57 PENN FUSION SA ECNL MUELLER (PAE)
37.50 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)
37.49 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE)
37.42 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA)
37.31 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM ECNL (NJ)
37.24 NORTH UNITED SC RUSH (PAW)

Anonymous said...

Until its not. Very small sample size.

Anonymous said...

4:36PM Where are you finding some of the teams you listed? I checked site and I am not able to locate a few teams listed.

Anonymous said...

7:37 of course it's a small sample size - but it's the current team only.
So basically if the BBA with their 38.42 plays North united with their 37.24, BBA is favorite by 1 goal, anything less than a goal victory and their score drops anything more and it goes up it will also be adjusted whenever North united plays more games - so the sample size means nothing it will adjust itself as time goes on and teams rack up the games played the score remains the same you are what you are. The perfect tool for tournaments correct approx 70% of the time, not bad.

9:01 there is a click here button to show all unranked teams.

No excuses - most if not all games are included.

Anonymous said...

Only games from 8/1 on?

So teams that played in the summer, the '00s, '01s and '02s got an advantage for YSR over teams that didnt play til their first showcase in November?

Just curious

Anonymous said...

Does YSR list the team's schedule of games, like GotSoccer?

Anonymous said...

9:23 yes and it'seven better - they include ECNL league games, and ECNL showcase games plus gotsoccer events and gotsoccer non events your one stop shop for results.

9:22 Why would you think anyone has an advantage? I would say their scores are a little more true than a team that just played 3 games which can have some swings with a big w or a big L.

Like in my example if BBA wins by 4 goals their score goes up and Northern United goes down, if they played a bunch of games it's a smaller increase or decrease compared to if they only played a few games that small sample size. But if Norther United goes on a huge winning streak and bumps up their score not only is their score going up but so is BBA. If they drop games and their score goes even lower then BBA score drops for beating them up.

The only thing that doesn't change is the actual score of the game - as the sample size corrects team scores all the teams they played also get adjusted. Gotsoccer doesn't do that and gone is the quantity vs quality argument. Some will try to put weight on games and say a state cup game is worth more than another game - but at then end of the day it's still team A playing team B.

Anonymous said...

This is the current 2002 (U15) Region 1 top 10 from YSR. The list posted above on 12/19 4:36pm includes unranked teams. Those teams have not played at least 10 games this year and YSR does not rank teams that have not played 10 games (you can search and find a "score" for unranked teams that have played at least one game but less than 10).

1 PIPELINE SC PLSC BLACK (MD) [15] 37.92
2 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY BLUE (NJ) [18] 37.79
3 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) [24] 37.52
4 NORTH UNITED SC RUSH (PAW) [34] 37.26
5 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) [41] 37.09
6 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) [42] 37.05
7 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) [50] 36.97
8 GPS MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) [57] 36.70
9 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JUNIOR FC FUSION (NJ) [59] 36.65
10 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL (NJ) [63] 36.61

There has been a lot of movement since YSR resumed rankings, to be expected with a low number of games. Expect a lot more movement as currently unranked teams get to 10 games. As time passes the rankings will get more accurate although obviously nothing is perfect...

Anonymous said...

Lots of good teams in there but PDA and WC will be there in the spring. They will be at the the top of the tri-state area after the spring season. Outside of that remains to be seen

Anonymous said...

WC? Really? Why the sudden faith? Daddy coach is going to fix things? Perhaps he will play some girls other than his own kid, now that would be a very positive start, no?

Anonymous said...

World Class ECNL 2002 will be very very good this year. Nice recruiting job.

Anonymous said...

638 goes back to may points those ECNL/DA clubs don't develop they recruit!

Anonymous said...

They didn’t recruit shit, just a bunch of delusional parents who think their kids are super-stars.

News flash: They are okay, not great.

Anonymous said...

1045 A little bitter I see. What stinks is come spring they have 2 months of league games March & April then tryouts begin once again, and for those not pre-selected to DA teams they will be looking elsewhere once again.

Anonymous said...

Going back to YSR v GS! You know GS gives fluff now as CASL awarded 1st place points for 2 teams in each bracket. GPS-MA and NJ Rush Grey both receive 1st place where each field only had 3 teams to play. GPS-MA #2 in the country we all know in NY area there are better teams. Yeah GS is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Of the ranked team GPS MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) has a score of 36.67

Below is the spread vs the top 7 if they played head 2 head using YSR
-1.23 PIPELINE SC PLSC BLACK (MD)
-1.08 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY BLUE (NJ)
-0.82 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)
-0.57 NORTH UNITED SC RUSH (PAW)
-0.49 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)
-0.33 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE)
-0.25 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD)

I can see them being #2 in the nation. Looking at YSR they are a "pick-em" vs 4 of the 7 teams ranked ahead of them in the region. So if they play in enough tournaments that award GSP they will place and accumulate points. I think the #2 ranking lines up 11:17.

PS. I like YSR way more than GS.

Anonymous said...

Disagree no way they are #2 - Many Northeast ECNL teams better Boston, FC Stars, along with PDA, East Meadow are better. So yes GS is misleading but YSR still not perfect.

Anonymous said...

SJEB RUSH Blue is by far the best team on that list.

Anonymous said...

1:59 Don't forget GS is not a true ranking tool. They only rank teams that play in their events or in flights that they add manually. So with GSP being 1 of the top region 1 teams it is not a stretch to say that they place in most if not all those events that carry GS points. So yes they will be #2 in the nation. No one thinks that GS ranks the best teams by ability (you don't do you) - they are just very good teams that place and have accumulated some GS points more than every team but 1, that is no crime - it is impressive but that's all it is, I'm sure no one puts those rankings on their team web site that would be silly. But if they did it is an accomplishment and #2 in the nation sounds really nice doesn't it. PS.their YSR score is on par with those teams you mentioned.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of ranking tools, I think the Rush Blue Dad is a pretty big one.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahaha

Anonymous said...

2:38 - GSP has zero meaning as far as ranking. The college coaches know this as well.

It's a good tracker to show who played where and what and to help seed teams in various tournaments.

Anonymous said...

OK listening to people talk about heading down Florida next week for Disney Showcase. Let me understand this it's a showcase where player(s) need to fully be focus and rested so schools can observe and evaluate. New Year's Eve I'm assuming many girls will stay up and enjoy the New Year celebrations so how is that impactful to the player the next day unless it's a late afternoon game. Sometimes I feel those FL showcase ECNL or Disney are a way to grab money and for scouts to enjoy a mini vacation. Merry Xmas!

Anonymous said...

I called about that, and they graciously moved all of our games to 5pm, nice right?

Yes, we are special.

Anonymous said...

I disagree - none of these kids will be drinking. At that age not an issue at all. The coaches can stay in Florida from Dec 28 - Jan 3 and cover ECNL and Disney. The only money grab looks like the NPL showcase as it's 0ver 2 and a half ours closer to 3 away from the ECNL event where it's only 30 minutes away from Orlando.

ECNL Florida Dec 28-30
2016 NPL Showcase (Girls) Dec 29-31
Disney Showcase Dec 31 - Jan 3

Regardless it's a vacation for all and the girls just need to focus on playing soccer and enjoying their mini-vacation. The only people putting pressure on them is us the parents by making comments like your post (no disrespect). They are young ladies and they don't need reminders they need to be able to enjoy their life and a mini vacation in Florida for New year's eve. YES I AM JEALOUS and a little disappointed as my kid will be home.

Anonymous said...

226 I disagree been down there before, girls are not usually focus New Year's day after staying up late New Year's Eve. So yes it's a mini-vacation but also about the pressure and mind set of showcasing talent. At this age you still wont see 30+ coaches on the sidelines like the older age groups do so enjoy the weather for those attending.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Scrooge, so perhaps we should cancel our trip? Yeah, that’s it, you’ve convinced me. I would much rather stay at home and watch college football, or Dick Clarke’s Rocking New Years show.

Anonymous said...

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2016/12/27/ecnl-announces-new-contract-agreement-to-keep-ecnl-national-event-in-seminole-county-florida/

Anonymous said...

what is interesting to me is lack of NJ teams in all age groups. And I only see Rush for NJ at U15? Why is that? This is some kind of "big" tournament? no PDA?

Anonymous said...

PDA is at the ECNL event in Sanford FL, are you really that clueless??

Anonymous said...

224 is referring to Disney must be a newbie.

Anonymous said...

Okay how did PDA do today in FL? What they are not there no way.

Anonymous said...

PDA host's it's own ECNL national showcase the same weekend PDA's regular showcase occurs late spring, so no need for them to go down at this age group just yet. There are older PDA ECNL teams down there becuase they ECNL teams are required to attend 3 national events at U16 and above. So no jealousy here.

Anonymous said...

clueless, No. My daughter plays on a team that beats ecnl teams, so clueless, or newbie, no. And correct, I do not see Storm at event, so again who is clueless?? And yes I am talking about Disney showcase girls U15. I am shocked their are not more NJ teams at this event. But same with CASL. Very few NJ teams at CASL as well. Teams seem to draw more local like EDP events at Dix, Tuckahoe and News as well. I gather the traveling is an issue and expensive. any other thoughts on why so few NJ teams? Signed: Newbie and Clueless.

Anonymous said...

Many NJ teams were declined for CASL

Anonymous said...

Hey Clueless how can you say your daughter's team beat ECNL teams if they don't even play in the league and they only attend ECNL Events. PDA's teams just started and they haven't played outside the ECNL realm even CASL grouped together a ECNL bracket. So try again newbie as I'm sure your dd's team hasn't played any ECNL teams as they are just starting. I do agree many NJ teams tend to not attend long distance events.

Anonymous said...

You guys are dopes! PDA and Matchfit don't usually need to do all of these so called college ID tournaments! Why do you ask? Well because they are PDA and Matchfit. These clubs don't need to get their kids a lot of looks and tournaments where D2 and D3 coaches are at! These kids go to the college ID camps in the summers and their clubs contact the college coaches directly for the "LOOKS". You guys are ridiculous thinking clubs like the Cats or Copa are getting D1 commits! So go to every tournament you can drive or fly to pursuing that scholarship that the 100 or so kids on PDA and Matchfit will take from you. Keep chasing the dream, those two clubs kids will have first dibs on any of it, good luck with the scraps!

Anonymous said...

Thank you Chris Christie, perhaps after your term ends you can become the DOC of both clubs. Or, even better, you can convince the clubs to merge, now that would be pretty cool. Personally, I hate NJ parents, they are worse than PAE parents.

Anonymous said...

7:52

Total rubbish.

Anonymous said...

@5:37, we were at CASL. And beat ecnl teams at Bethesda, and many more in past. But I don't want arguments on New Years Eve holidays, but some comments are just rude. Tournaments is where we play ecnl teams for years, even Tuckahoe has had some ecnl teams we beat down couple years ago.
@7:52, I actually agree with this a little. Cats and Copa of course have many DI commits, and wildcats with few teams ratio is very good on girls side. Copa has many DI commits yearly. But of course PDA and MF will draw the coaches, the looks and when email goes to coach saying, I play for PDA Storm and Rutgers Coach Mike, I do believe they will get responses. And why not go to ecnl events as a coach. Especially now broken up, like at casl. So no we did not play ecnl teams at casl, but very good teams.

Anonymous said...

Less than impressive showings from all 3 PA ECNL teams in Florida.

Anonymous said...

Less than impressive showing for all Reg 1 teams(except NJ who were no -shows). Might have something to do with the fact that most if not all of Reg 1 plays school ball in the fall and the teams are just starting to play together while many of the teams they faced have been playing together all fall. Some of the Reg 3 teams for instance have played their full ecnl fall league schedule and done 1-2 tournaments as well.

Anonymous said...

10:21 - what are you talking about? You are U15. U16 and up get the most coaches as far as draw. And, when the recruiting changes go into effect, it will be less for U15 and under.

Anonymous said...

What recruiting changes?

Anonymous said...

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/09/21/ivy-league-announces-proposals-curbing-early-recruitment-athletes

Good idea.

Anonymous said...

It's not just the Ivy Leagues & not just soccer. Coming to vote at the NCAA's upcoming meeting.

Anonymous said...

Nothing will change. I think junior high recruiting is a joke and usually the psychol parent looking for bragging rights.
Ivy schools are always the last to commit, they have too wait because of grades and test scores. They should have zero say anyway without offering scholarships.

Anonymous said...

Yup agree nothing will come out of the meeting, plus if a child is attending an IVY league school you know there soccer is most likely 2nd in that kids mind by Sr. year of HS.

Another thought is a bigger push to commit early will start occurring since many of the power schools will recruit from the Girls DA first and many schools will be hoping to scoop them forcing other schools to scoop up as well. If a girl is playing GDA why wouldn't see be able to play college and get recruited early.

Anonymous said...

Rutgers has already committed two 8th graders this year so far. To early in my opinion. But hey to each their own. My daughter understands and will not commit till at least sophomore year.

Anonymous said...

I have been hearing that many of the college coaches want it as well.

There are too many transfers and decommits due to kids making early decisions as well as the other NCAA compliance issues/contact nightmares that the early recruiting has raised.

Anonymous said...

10:34 - the GDA will make the recruiting easier, but that is not my understanding as to why it is being formed. GDA is to develop a higher lever player - more training and less games. It is for development; recruiting is only an added benefit. I doubt the new proposed recruiting rule won't stop schools from contacting club coaches to let someone know they have interest.

Btw - having older children, girls and boys that were collegiate scholar/athletes (DI) this is how it was only several years ago - no contact until Jr. yr. The early commit madness is recent. If you think soccer is bad, you should be involved in basketball and/or baseball where a very good athlete can go directly into the draft.

Anonymous said...

Oh, 12:54 here - and by the way, I am in support of extending the contact time frame for recruiting having experienced it from both sides of the fence.

Anonymous said...

Ivy League got the ball rolling, 10:34. Other Leagues are jumping on board as well. As one of the other posters noted and I heard as well, many college coaches want this, too.

Think about it, they have to not only look at the new talent, but also check in on the talent they recruited to make sure they are still playing up to speed. These are verbals remember. Takes a lot of man power and funds.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm...true. Some of the older groups don't participate in tournaments the same time as the younger groups. It's has to be a logistical/financial nightmare.

Anonymous said...

By the way, three Ivies have 10th grade commits this year

Anonymous said...

12:54 it was always like this - you just never had so many outlets to report this kind of stuff before.

I think it's funny,they the college coaches are doing this -they should grow a sack and stand up for what is right regardless of what the NCAA does or doesn't do.

Middle School recruits -let the fools have them and the other schools should brand them as robbing the cradle teams and be done with them, it's all on them they know what they are doing and who cares if the Jones are doing it if it's wrong don't do it - it's that simple.

Anonymous said...

Commits can continue to be recruited. Its up to the coach.

Just saw a Boise State recruit switch over to UNLV (had committed as a tenth grader, now in 11th)

Anonymous said...

Don't call me out as I'm all new to this are these early commits getting full rides(Tuition, R&B, Books, Meals, et.) I thought that kind of stuff cannot be discussed until Sr. year?

Anonymous said...

I believe the main rule is Signing Day. If you look at the NCAA rules it is somewhat open as to what constitutes contact and whats allowed beginning at Freshman year in High School. Players can attend ID camps beginning as young as 7/8 grade. Mostly framed as "Training" by the schools. There are also a good number of Assistant College coaches Coaching in the ECNL. My daughter attended a local University's camp at 14 and continued to get invites (now a Jr. We received emails from numerous "coaches" once she was in the system to attend their camps as well. After each camp/training she always sent a follow-up email and most often received a response similar to thanks for attending, you played well, please continue to attend. The trick to sifting through this was getting the off cycle emails that asked about what tournaments she would be playing in, usually from an assistant coach. At present she has 3 schools that the coaches have actually reached out to her either after the camp or via phone to talk with her, ask her what she thought of the school, how are her grades and what is she looking for regarding a major. She also has had contact due to her travel team coaches being assistants at local universities. Within the past 2 months the contact has amped up as the 2017's will begin signing February 2nd (I believe). Up until this point a player can decide to honor their verbal and sign or do what the high level Football recruits do and make a circus of NSD with multipe schools hats on a table and select one in front of the cameras. Not really practical at the girls soccer level however.

Anonymous said...

11:00 glad to hear your success but the hardest part is like you said she if you dd is interested in a school but knowing they already have underclassmen verbal's the heartbreak of trying to still get in wearing on a kid that has potential that blossom late.

Anonymous said...

11:10
My daughter plays keeper. A very narrow road to college as Colleges start tracking early but make offers later. Unless your a national team pick or in the NT pool. The problem with early verbals is sometimes they are based on a stud at U15 who does not continue to mature or rests on their commitment. Also, a lot of work is needed to see what the team will need the year your daughter is being recruited. The things we took into consideration was #1 what were the best schools for my daughter's major, next what commitment was she willing to make to soccer in collge (after a few visits to D1 programs she decided that classes were more important then soccer) While we are still entertaining a few D1's she is more focused on D2/D3 and being able to play in her freshman year, as well as study and plan to graduate in 4 years. @15 there is plenty of time if your daughter is on an ECNL team, if she is at a lower level but the club has a good reputation (PA Classics for example) she will get to the right showcases. If the coach is chasing a lower league title (PAGS/JAGS/EDP/ICSL/NL) then she will need to do a lot for herself and possibly look at guesting for Jeff Cup and other Ranked tournaments. SHe should also start attending Camps offered by the schools she is interested in. Our experience was the tournaments lead to some invites, the camps lead to some interest and the next step was on my daughter to contact and talk to the coaches (following NCAA rules). We are still not set but I believe she has options that will allow her to pursure her goals for an education and to play soccer for 4 more years.

Anonymous said...

11:00 - that is what is going to be curbed with the new changes, including recruiting contact at ID camps at this age. Some are getting in front of this before it goes into effect in particular if they have already put in the evaluation time with some players. Most schools, in particular higher tier schools, don't just choose a child without a evaluation process taking place especially if they are offering 60% or more in funding.

Anonymous said...

11:22 - good for you and your daughter. She is making smart decisions it appears. I have an older daughter, too, that is a keeper and she verbally committed as a soph. And, agree with you , there are only 3 maybe 4 spots on a roster for gk's (college fresh to sr) where there are 20-30 spots (depending on how many the school carries) for field players (college fresh to sr). Most times they are only choosing 1 keeper per gradation year (some don't do that if they have only recruit keepers every other year).

And some programs are still of the old mindset and don't put a lot of value on that position. But we have found that most have come to the table in realizing that a good keeper will keep you in many games so while they aren't scoring the goals, directly, they are preventing goals, managing the game to allow their teammates/field players to possibly get one.

And, developing good soccer iq comes with experience and maturity in the position as well as respect and leadership. These are things that evolve for all of the positions as you play the game; as the game gets faster and stronger.

This is why it is hard to predict that a U14/U15 will be the same player (yet alone the same height and weight) at U17/U18. And, makes sense that there is discussion for the recruiting to hit pause.



Anonymous said...

12:32
My daughter and I have partnered with me doing some research and her doing the planning and executing. It would have been an ego boost for me if she accepted an offer (verbal) as a sophomore but she was looking at the long term impact and how much a program can change between sophomore and Senior year. Coaches have left a few of the schools so the (verbal)commitment becomes void. She also, as you pointed out, wanted to know the coaches philosophy regarding the keeper position. She realizes the mental stamina needed for the role and wants to align with a coach/team that plays a certain style from the back. She is looking for someone to coach her, not second guess her. And with 2-3 other keepers on the team there is always competition for that starting role. She told me that she will most likely make a decision before the end of spring.

Anonymous said...

12:49 - good luck. Sounds likes she is doing all the right things. Congrats!

As far as my daughter accepting as a soph, I thought it was too early for the entire process. I played devil's advocate the entire time.

It's a very good school & program and most importantly, she really likes everything about it; the school, academic (had her field of study; and will allow her to pursue it which is key, too), program, coaches (head coach is a soccer guru and not going anywhere unless decides to retire), location and the girls she met. We did our homework too. I learned that when it fits and it's what they want it doesn't matter where they are in the graduation process.

But no need to rush which is what it appears she is doing. Some kids just commit to under the pressure to commit. Good for her to weigh all the options; very mature.

Anonymous said...

1249 - Amen to the philosophy and style considerations. My keeper is currently having those issues at club level, not to mention what might be presented at the collegiate level.

Anonymous said...

1:34
It is hard to find a good Club Coach for a keeper. The key is to find a club that has Keeper trainers that support their keepers. It took us 2 tries but my daughter is at a club where the head coach played keeper up to the college level. He sees the game from a keeper perspective and coaches her well, he also has contacts with regional colleges which is key. The schools she is looking at also have assistants that were keepers at the college or pro level. I would also recommend TKI for training. My daughter attends sessions there and they have improved her tactical and technical skill immensely.

Anonymous said...

Amen.

Anonymous said...

Love the head coaches that have gk experience.

Hate the coaches that think they are better than they are and yell from the sidelines when they are not seeing the field in front of the player. Easy to say, go to your right or left when they are not seeing the opponent putting themselves in position to cherry pick.

Anonymous said...

Yep, this was our high school experience. It was quite frustrating.

Anonymous said...

Can you guys with these verbals help me understand something.

I know D3 can talk to your kid - Seeing that 1st hand.

It's camp invites that are hard to understand.

I know if you attend once you are in the database for future camps
I know some schools just send blasts

It's hard to figure out the invites from schools that watched your kid's game - is it a blind blast or did they like what they saw?

I feel funny telling her to ask her club coach to reach out to the school
since there was a few that were at games and then a camp invites followed.

Anonymous said...

Don't feel funny. That is part of what the club coaches do to support the kids. Most love to help. Find out if there is interest before heading to multiple camps. Travel, hotel, food, etc. - it's not cheap.

Saw this and thought I would share it
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ken-reed/club-sports-hurting-young_b_13896180.html?

Remember those days???

Anonymous said...

Just got back from Disney, and my 14-year old daughter was offered a starting spot on the USMNT, jealous?

We said no thanks, boys are stupid.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

802 doesn't matter anyway players are starting to look to play outside of the States anyway look at Alex Morgan and Dunn they are going to start trend of players moving overseas similar to boys and that will ruin the NWSL. The CBA for women's soccer better do something about pay scale or NWSL will go bye-bye.

Anonymous said...

I see that as an upcoming trend re the younger girls looking to play overseas. And, it seems like the international clubs are gearing up to receive US players as well. How funny is that?

Some schools load their rosters with international players instead of giving scholarships/roster spots to US players and now they may not get the chance to get the US kids they keep rejecting.

Anonymous said...

League stays solvent if top players can play half a season

Opens up some NWSL playing time for some others, upstarts and vets alike.

Dont forget - more foreign players are also coming.

Anonymous said...

Again it's about audience at games for NWSL if well known players leave people wont come watch. Go ahead and ask you daughter what foreign players they know and wanna go watch. I totally agree if this trend continues it's going to put a dent on Women's soccer.

Look how much $'s those NWSL teams that lost Morgan and Dunn will take a hit.

Anonymous said...

MWSL 2016 Attendance: http://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2016-nwsl-attendance/
Some are saying are the lowest numbers since the league's induction.

Anonymous said...

12:19,
I agree about Colleges and Foreign players. I believe that NCAA should put a cap across the board on the #of international players that can be on scholarship across all schools/teams/sports. Make US Soccer Great (Again??)

Maybe with Klinsman out as Head USMNT coach we may see opportunities opening up for US players again.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Maybe this is another recruiting change put forth at the upcoming NSCAA meeting and NCAA meeting. US wonders why other countries are catching up. Hmmmm...what can it be? How many international goalkeepers have played or are currently playing at US colleges? And, that is just one position.

Anonymous said...

Some of the problems with attendance at NWSL games may be that they conflict with youth soccer events and MLS as well. I wanted to go to a couple of games and then had tourney conflicts.

Even some W-League games conflicted with NWSL games. The leagues should certainly work together.

This is what is going on with the WNBA, too. But, NBA supports so they do work around things a little better.

Anonymous said...

http://www.excellesports.com/news/crystal-dunn-chelsea-position/

Discusses her decision to play overseas and how the men's and women's Chelsea team work together. MLS are you watching?? Share the venues, share the benefits, share the advertisers, share....build the sport and attendance. It's a win/win.

Anonymous said...

1:03 What are you talking about? The USSF pays WNT players to play for the WNT and they also pay their NWSL salaries. Stop blaming the federation. The problem is nobody goes to watch! The sad thing is you are talking about players not teams. SKY Blue is a NJ team and NJ should support it but they don't it they have the lowest attendance in the league - I think my kid's HS team had more people watching now that is sad!

Colleges are taking more foreign players because they are better quality, just watch our YNT play it's pass the ball to the F and watch them try to dribble around 4 defenders, we all talk the game and then we shut up when our kid's team plays the same way. Robotic we are not developing world class players -we are developing college players.

3:21 THE ECNL complains about players going to NT camps instead of their events and you want them to support the game - they care about their brand and their $$$.


Anonymous said...

Totally agree 4:29, maybe that’s why the Feds decided that we needed a GDA, because college soccer obviously a glorified version of H.S., its quite sad, but this is the 98% of female players. We went to Disney, and I was hoping to see some good play, but the only team that tried to play like the boys was our team, and we were 0-1-2. Bigger, faster, and predictable, the holy grail of college soccer.

Anonymous said...

4:29 - 3:21 here. I support the players. The NWSL and W-League players are worth seeing. I don't go to watch just the NT players. Some become NT players through NWSL/W-League, etc. It is great to see a budding talent get better and better through their play on these teams.

And, my kids can name some of the international players that participate in NWSL. I was saddened to see the never give up talent of Kim Little leave Reign (saw her in play locally and in Seattle).

These girls (NWSL/W-League, etc.) play because they love the game and their effort certainly shows it. THAT is what I am supporting.

Anonymous said...

Oh and I agree with you, the kids should not have had to make a choice between NT and nationals in ECNL. That was the shot across the bow that their cushy relationship (USSF and ECNL) had come to an immediate end.

Anonymous said...

Whitney Engen is a good example, 6:11

And there are several this year out of NWSL (with no NT experience)

Anonymous said...

I was an original SOB (Sons Of Ben) and worked with the group that encouraged the MLS to add a team in Philly. When my daughter got involved in soccer and the original Philly Independence started up I asked the question why they were not somehow tied to the Philly Union. The response was that there is not enough interest in the Women's side and the men's side has such a small margin for profitability that aligning would jeoprodize the men's team. The women also wanted to stand on their own (I guess that may be why they chose the name they did ). I think the isuue is sustainable vs profitable. The MLS turns a profit, the WPSL is barely sustainable. The target depth for a female youth soccer player is college and possibly a shot at the national team but the economics of maybe 30 spots for 1M players??

Anonymous said...

8:20 what's up brother - we also loved the cheese-stakes and were sad when they folded. We were there for almost every home game at weidner, we did our part to support the game by buying jerseys - but when you have only a few doing this we have what we have. The W-League folded, the WPSL is joke, USWA is not at the same level. I'm reading at least half the MLS teams will have a NWSL team this will allow them to have an academy and be part of the cash cow of girls youth soccer,

6:11 I'm with you we support the players, we support MLS and NWSL (even though SKY Blue was the enemy). It's sad that they can't even draw 2k per game, all you read about on these boards is how strong NJ soccer is blah blah blah and yet SKY Blue struggles. I agree with 8:20 we look at the game differently. I see kids supporting barca, madrid and pick your EPL team but yet they don't support what is ours. I love the game and so does my kid and we support MLS and NWSL because this is ours.

Rank Team Average
1 Portland Thorns FC 16,945
2 Orlando Pride 8,933
3 Houston Dash 5,701
4 Seattle Reign FC 4,588
5 Western NY Flash 3,868
6 Washington Spirit 3,782
7 Boston Breakers 3,472
8 FC Kansas City 3,162
9 Chicago Red Stars 2,926
10 Sky Blue FC 1,982
TOTALS 5,585

Anonymous said...

10 Step plan for Soccer Success in SE PA
1 – Be well off
2- Attend private school or live in one of the following school districts
CONESTOGA
PENNSBURY
PENNRIDGE
CENTRAL BUCKS SOUTH
QUAKERTOWN
NESHAMINY
STRATH HAVEN
SPRING-FORD
DOWNINGTOWN WEST
WEST CHESTER HENDERSTON
DOWNINGTOWN EAST
3- Play for one of the following clubs
Penn Fusion
PA Classics
Continental
YMS
FC Bucks
PDA
4- Donate to the Club (time and Money)
5- Have talent
6-ODP by 12 (preferably on a team coached by one of your Club’s coaches)
7- When offered a spot on a higher level team take it (need to be on ECNL/DA by u15)
8- Get to a regional Camp
9- Attend every extra training offered by your DOC
10- Play a secondary sport

Anonymous said...

Our 10 steps.

1. Start playing rec soccer.
2. Enroll in footskills (extra training)
3. Classic travel (local town teams)
4. Tryout for ODP
5. Premier club (regional/national travel)
6. Make mini vacations out of every road game/tournament
7. Play High School soccer
8. Attend some school clinics (on her list)
9. High School Graduation
10. Attend as many college games as I can

Anonymous said...

12:41

Are you at step 10 yet?

Anonymous said...

12:41 - are you attending the games to watch your child or just attending? Also, why isn't having talent a step in your process, too? And, don't they all start out on rec leagues? And, are you implying that kids on some of the Club teams you noted from SE PA are paying more than the club fees for their spots?

Sounds like soccer envy going on?

Anonymous said...

In Jersey its easier,

Step 1-9: Start and finish @ PDA

Step 10: Get partial soccer scholarship at Rutgers!

DONE!



Anonymous said...

1:15
Prettu much encompasses 2-9 :)
There is a lot of Alignment with PDA and Rutgers. (Mentioned PDA as one of the clubs to be at as well!)

Oh and there is some fate involved.

Anonymous said...

8:20 - MLS is looking at the same; profitability vs. sustainability. That is business. Some MLS markets are bigger and better supported than others, too.

Soccer in the US is still growing as far as professional sports. Isn't it now the #1 sport in the world? There are more boys that play than professional or NT spots, too (internationally and domestically). That is the sport for both genders.

Do you think the numbers turned out to the Linc over the summer to see just the US MNT or Messi and crew as well?

I am optimistic that the numbers in MLS, USMNT, NASL/USL & USWNT, NWSL and WPSL all improve in the upcoming years. Go US Soccer!

Anonymous said...

1:35 - alignment? Nicely put. Surely you know that the DOC of PDA is the Head Coach at Rutgers?

Anonymous said...

1:43
Yes I am aware. Just like the other ECNL teams (FC Bucks, PF, and CFC) all have college coaches as assistants or head coaches of the girls u15 and up. The one factor I have seen as an ECNL parent is that the good players with no additional contacts and average income get weeded out a bit. As CFC is nearer to the city there are some really good players that stay on regardless of their socio-economic status. Youth soccer to college player is a marathon and not for the weak hearted or small pockets.

Anonymous said...

12:49 - I am at step 8 - very proud of my little lady.

1:09 - to watch of course and answer questions or provide feedback if she has any. My kid played rec ball U6-U9, she asked to play travel - so we moved her up one level (this was after training on the side). It didn't matter that she stood out because of the extra training -she had to ask to move up - her game her life pal. I didn't mention any teams. Soccer envy? Think what you want.

1;15 Sounds easy enough- PDA has what 4 teams? So that's 80 kids in each age group. That explains the low turn out for SKy Blue games.

1:40 MLS is expanding to 30 teams and they could do even more if they were smart and created an MLS2 with pro/rel almost every club is in the green now and the franchise fee is well over 100 million. I'm with you 100% GO US SOCCER. PS. NASL is in trouble, MLS should take it over and rebrand to MLS2. Go to 30 teams - two 15 team conferences - 28 conference games. Take the top 8 teams from each conference to play some type of a post season single elimination or world cup format and relegated the bottom 3 teams in each conference every year. Also forceeach team to have a NWSL first team to share stadiums.

1:58 I agree - big part of the problem and because there is SO MUCH $$$$ in it nothing will ever change.

Anonymous said...

1:58 - You don't care much for facts, do you.

Anonymous said...

New Steps when GDA kicks off.

Step 1 U8-U11: Play Travel (EDP, NYSCL League)
Step 2 U12-U14: Move DA Club (Participate in top league, state cups, big tourney's, etc)
Step 3 U15-U18: Play DA team (Get Scouted and Recruited by Freshman/Sophomore years)
Step 4 Play College: (On Full Ride)
Step 5 Play Professionally(WPSL) for 25k or find a job making 40k and become trainer at a local club for extra cash.

Great 15 year plan I think. I'm laughing really am!

Anonymous said...

1:58 - wow are you jaded. My kids plays on one of those clubs you listed and we have had a completely different experience. We are not well off, either. We are hard working, like my kid.

Anonymous said...

1:58 - college coaches are involved in most ECNL clubs.. I am not sure how many are head coaches at top tier soccer colleges and DOC's through the League. Would be interesting to find out. Anyone know?

Anonymous said...

3:31 - Step 6: Play internationally and/or coach domestically or internationally (club level, college or academy)

Anonymous said...

Players in the NWSL that are not allocated by the United States and Canadian federations
for the six-month season get paid:

2016 $7,200 to $39,700
2015 $6,842 to $37,800.
2013 $6,000 to $30,000.


or for 2016

low end (bench players) = $1,200 per month or $300 per week
high end (starters) = $6,617 per month or $1654 per week

Remember these are the non allocated players.
So how does one expect Sky Blue to pay more if they don'teven get over 2K per game

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Need to up the numbers for Sky Blue. New location needed. Getting to Rutgers in the summer traffic is a nightmare.

Anonymous said...

And, more sponsors/advertisers needed. It's the t.v. time w/sponsors that supports the other professional sports. It was great to see some of the teams utilizing halftime on U-tube for advertising.

NBA is supporting WNBA even when numbers are not up in some markets.

Anonymous said...

833 What TV time sponsors would invest $'s into a game that runs 90's minutes with literally no stoppage times except half time. Come on look at NFL football(1hr) actual play time but 3.5 hours to televise or Basketball(48 min) actual game time but 2 hours of TV time. Face it MLS in America does not get major TV time sponsors because of this you think the women's league would. TV Sponsorship is a huge business but they are smart of enough where to invest for the return Super Bowl Commercials for example.

Anonymous said...

Like the news networks have, a live run underneath the game as it's being played. And, before game, half time, stoppage time (before overtime), and at end of game before interviews; in between games.

There are sponsors during the WC games. Use the same format (in particular since there may be a few games being broadcast on the same channel; like football). Sponsors in the live footage of the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. didn't just get where it is now without hiccups and tests runs.

"Can't" means "won't." I say "let's see how!"

Anonymous said...

I am not saying that they get superbowl commercial $$$, yet. I am saying try it. The superbowl only became nearly a holiday event in the last 20 years. It evolved into the pomp and circumstance it is today. Half time was extended for the performances for instance.

Soccer like football is a one game win and in sport. When the WC is going on, large television screens pop up at various venues. It could happen.

Anonymous said...

Dudes it doesn't matter - Red Bulls avg 20K and Sky Blue not even 2k sticking to NJ. That is your problem. When you have boys saying they want to go to a Sky Blue game then maybe instead we have dads taking their girls to a red bulls game the women get no love and that is a fact and why it will never grow. There I said it.

Anonymous said...

Red Bulls and Sky Blue should be packaged together as a NJ thing not NY Red Bulls or PDA Sky Blue a"NJ" thing. NJ Strong right? much easier to back.

Tickets start at $30 for Red Bull games or $20 if you come early for the NWSL game and you get a double header.

Anonymous said...

7:08 - that is correct. MLS should be working with/aligning with NWSL (like NBA and WNBA). Same arena; and same day if possible.

And, 7:00, I agree that is what is going on currently. Gotta figure out a way so all teams benefit, like the alignment of the women's teams with MLS teams.

It's a win/win for the sport and for soccer in the US.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 9:04, MLS is talking about having half the teams with a NWSL team.
My perfect USA soccer world.

MLS - tier 1 - 32 teams (2 conferences of 16, each team plays 30 games vs conference - top 4 teams advance to post season and play 6 games vs other conference teams, then we seed teams and play single elimination)

NASL - rebrand as MLS2 with 32 teams and follow same structure as MLS. Then use Pro/Rel between MLS and MLS2 with some type of profit sharing plan that will allow teams to get back their expansion fees, once all teams get back expansion fees the money goes to the league to do as they wish.

USL - remains D3 - developmental league for all MLS teams (64)

NWSL - teams rebrand as MLS women teams and follow the same structure.


Youth Soccer
GDA - top tier for USSF and Colleges to pick players.

Rebrand ECNL as a US CLub and USYS league. Still a club league but allow champions from NPL and USYS Regional league leagues to play the following year.

EDP, CCL, NEP and other regional leagues continue giving teams a pathway to develop players for them to either move up the ladder with their team or individually.

I believe this will make us a soccer nation that develops world class players as we open the door for so many more players to play meaningful games to show what they have.

It much easier to support the NJ Red Bulls or NJ Sky Blue than the NY Red Bulls or Sky Blue PDA -you remove the I hate PDA element even though it's the same staff. people can be funny. I said it we go to Sky Blue games but will always be a CheeseSteak at heart - I hope the Union can bring back the Independence. However, Tasha Kai makes it so much easier.

Anonymous said...

Agree with your perfect soccer world. Hope it happens. Not sure ECNL will ever rebrand itself though. But, I hope it allows for true chamionships with all the leagues and their top tier teams competing.

Looking forward to an Independence comeback in the Philly area. Fingers crossed!

Anonymous said...

Do you guys really think the new DA will be that strong?
Half of the strongest players and their families on our ecnl team are 50/50.


Anonymous said...

NJ Red Bull?

Dude - I am not sure you understand business too well.

Anonymous said...

4:53 - we are not talking moving the Jets from Shea and they keep NY in their name or the Giants before them.

We are talking taking a team that plays in their own Harrision NJ statdium NJ.
I think they increase their fan base by r-ebranding to NJ they could open up selling jerseys to central and southern jersey soccer fans. Not sure about you but I don't know any NY red Bull fans - all my buds (Brooklyn/Queens) support either NYFC or the Cosmos (D2).

Devils vs Rangers is a nice sell NJ vs NY - Rangers vs Islanders that's a Long island vs the City thing. Red Bulls vs NYFC has nothing to do with NY.

Sorry I don't buy into calling the team NY Red Bulls will generate more money than NJ Red Bulls. Just not sold on that.

Anonymous said...

I feel the same way 3:50. It's 50/50 with our club as well.

Anonymous said...

From what I am seeing (reading), if you are not already on the inside of a club that will be GDA, then you will have a hard time breaking in. So, even setting the 50/50 issue aside, will the GDA really have the best players, or just the best connected? Unless there is some significant outside oversight of the selection process, GDA just becomes another rebranding. Then there is always the question of what happens to the outstanding soccer player from a place like State College, where there is no GDA, ECNL, etc. Based on the commentary on this blog, that player gets passed over because of the lack of opportunity/access.

Anonymous said...

What is the closest DA to State College?

Anonymous said...

I believe the perfect soccer world exists up to college for girls, Now hear me out. There are more then enough players to fill college rosters. The path to D1 - ECNL
D2 - NPL/EDP/USYS
D3 - Those players who want to play and have shown succeess at the PAGs/NPL/EDP level
THe Girls DA will be a conduit for existing clubs players with some outside girls getting an opportunity. What may happen is current ECNL/Pre ECNL teams will most likely promote their players to DA, new girls showing up at tryouts will be aligned with ECNL/NPL with younger ones being told "Now that you are in our program you will have the chance to move to DA". It will be similar to the shopping around parents did with the age change and another reset, Then knowing US soccer as more of creating a revenue stream then a competitive soccer program will reset with something else in 4 years.

Anonymous said...

A State College player could be a discovery player at an GDA (PA Classics) or ECNL discovery player for PF or CFC.
They are allowed to play in maybe 6-events.

Anonymous said...

Go back to sleep, 8:22

Check in with us later.

Anonymous said...

8:25
Why should I go back to sleep.


I think there are paths for current girls to play college if they want to. I also think the system is rigged and based on a fiscal proposal rather then a develoopment one. Clubs that are both DA and ECNL will continue to sell their product to families promising D1 scholarships and NT stardom. In this area you may see 3-5 player ever make it as far as possible u17, u20 International games. Look at the rosters of current NT teams, look at the coaches and look at the connections. Some of it is also based on areas where outdoor soccer can be played year round.

Most new name call-ups are also direct calls from coaches to Ellis or her assistants from regional coaches with clout. That network is strong and unless you are on the inside taking your daughter blind to a tryout at a new GDA may get her local and some college exposure but is a long way from ever seing regional or national camp experience.

Anonymous said...

Have you ever been PROMISED D1 and/or NT?

Anonymous said...

9:35 AM
Maybe PROMISED is a strong word, Are you an ECNL coach/DOC/Marketing Rep???
I like how people try to defend their decision when they are most likely questioning it themselves. Numbers are numbers and facts are facts. If your daughter is still on and ECNL team in her senior year of high school and does not have a verbal commitment with her selected college you really need to start thinking about the "promises" you were made by your club/coach/DOC. Doesn't have to be D1 but your daughter should know what her options are by January 1 2017 if she is graduating this spring.

1 East Coast ECNL Player on the U20 Roster as of 12/3/16
1 East Coast ECNL Player on the U18 Roster as of 12/17/16 (Both PDA)
Interesting.........

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have any feedback from the ID camp at Penn State this past weekend?

Anonymous said...

1:10 PM
Was your daughter an invite or unsolicited walk on? What grad year. My understanding is they are looking at the 2017s and will communicate directly with those that they have an interest in. I don't think evals were promised across the board. Underclass may recieve follow-up if they have been on the radar (2018s) and younger may just receive the email blast for camps.

Anonymous said...

We rocked that camp and are considering committing

Daughter is a 2022. May choose Duke or Idaho State or Stony Brook instead but commit will be early, surely. That is what looks best.

Anonymous said...

HaHa 1:27 Penn State is not looking at 2017's anymore unless that player is above and beyond the 6-7 players already ready to sign their NLI. They may also be done 2018 as well and as 2019. 10-12 verbally committed already for 2018/2019. They are looking at 2020's now have one of the top players in the country verbally committed graduating 2020. So please refrain to comment if you did not do the research and observed and saw the camp yourself.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup acceptances are out.

Anonymous said...

That can't be, my daughter is a top 2020 and she has not committed to PSU, she is having trouble with Algebra right now.

Anonymous said...

Woohoo, we got into Jeff Cup, Waffle House here we come!!

Anonymous said...

12:10 am - closest GDA's from State College, PA, area are PA Classics and PF. PF has some kids that travel to it from State College already that play ECNL.

Anonymous said...

Also, don't feed the troll. He/she will move on.

Anonymous said...

4:42 - they may be looking if someone decommitted or isn't going to play freshman year. I heard that is happening for some 2017 spots on a few squads.

Anonymous said...

Keep trolling people....no way PSU is looking at anything but 2020 and younger, maybe 2019
Sorry your little Mia who "rocked the camp" won't make it

Anonymous said...

https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=53446&Group=Girls_15

Anonymous said...

2h,15m one way State College to PAC; 3h one way State College to PF; pretty taxing on both parent and student-athlete to do four days a week.

Anonymous said...

There are large parts of the country where there are no ECNL clubs. These areas produce excellent soccer players who have no trouble finding good teams and getting into college. There will be large geographic areas without access to DA. Players in those areas will no doubt be at a big disadvantage getting onto National teams, but they will still find elite teams to play on and getting college scholarships will not be difficult.

Anonymous said...

Well if you and your daughter was a true fan of women's soccer and are paying attention to the upcoming NWSL draft on Jan. 12th. You can see many of those college players did not come from a GDA/ECNL club. Here is the link to the eligible players and what college and youth club they played for. So yes there is a path to college soccer and possible pro without GDA/ECNL.

http://nwslsoccer.com/nwsl-reveals-preliminary-list-of-eligible-players-for-2017-draft

Anonymous said...

Looks like PDA Storm is getting a chance to play with the big girls at Jeff Cup. Should be very interesting. Championship Group B will come down again to Pipeline and SJEB. PA Classics will run group A. I think Classics has a shot to win it all.

Anonymous said...

Thanks PA Classics Mom, keep drinking lady!

Anonymous said...

I'm a father of a D1 prospect thank you very much!

Anonymous said...

Everyone on here are have prospects of D1 player and national type player I assume. Either way glad Jeff didn't follow CASL and group all the ECNL teams together hopefully it will show who the true region 1 teams are.

Anonymous said...

Well the players chosen for U16 GNT all 2020/2021 grads have been already been chosen already. Two PDA players and one World Class player representing NJ.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/01/09/18/54/20170109-u16gnt-kicks-off-2017-with-training-camp-in-san-diego-roster-release

Anonymous said...

Any player whose parent wrote a check could attend PSU clinic

Anonymous said...

9:59 - Good players. Should be a great draft.

Not trying to burst any bubbles here, but you realize that these gals were part of the infancy of ECNL; before it became what it is today. There are many stories on the impact of ECNL on the current college atmosphere.

Don't give up the dream where ever you play, but just be fully informed.

Anonymous said...

9:59 - I would not say many didn't come from ECNL. Most of those clubs listed are ECNL (they just don't have the league/ECNL after their names like some do). But do agree with recent blogger about not letting anywhere you play stop you from a dream.

Anonymous said...

250 Agreed anyone that paid for PSU clinic can attend 8th graders as well. I know there were some that went for free!

Anonymous said...

Congrats to PDA u16 NTC players .
Looks like no one from a Pa. team could make the cut .
Not surprised .

Anonymous said...

Inertia is a wonderful thing.

Anonymous said...

There are many states not represented in this group. Why are you noting just PA? Apparently, "These players are all age-eligible for the 2018 U-17 Women’s World Cup, which has an age cut-off of players born on or after January 1, 2001," Good luck to them. Go Team USA.

Anonymous said...

Message to the mature parents out there...we are now parents of 2002 girls, stop trying to make your daughter's team out to be the best by destroying others, get a life.
Be a parent, help your daughter do her best to help her succeed in life.
Lots of bullies and trolls around here, still stuck in the U12 years, living vicariously through their kids because they missed out on opportunities when they were young.
Oh...and Obama is done and Trump won, get over it!

Anonymous said...

haha, agreed!
How about making this a forum to help guide some of the parents that are new to the showcase experience? Of course, try o skip the part where you mention your daughter is the best and all P5 colleges are signing her up

Anonymous said...

I have an appropriate Parental Guide this forum:

A) Pennsylvania soccer sucks
B) New Jersey Soccer sucks
C) See A) and B) for further details.

Anonymous said...

You may want to learn proper English and sentence structuring if you're going to be a dick. Sorry you didn't get your GED

Anonymous said...

8:48 I assume your a NY guy please signature your comments "NY Guy" so we all know your comments are not meaningful at all. If NJ soccer is bad how come they have 3 girls representing the U16 WNT. Along with many former NJ players that have played on the NT.

Anonymous said...

Good idea
Plus if he signs "NY guy", he doesn't need to sign "douche"

Anonymous said...

Yo 12:40 NY is (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx) - they can be a LI guy for long island or SI guy for Staten island or Upstate NY guy for everyone else. Of course then PA can sign as Sticks guy and NJ can sign as bridge and tunnel guy since we all know NY is the place to be just ask the Red Bulls they have nothing to do with NY but say they are from NY.

Anonymous said...

I thought that was pretty funny, you guys need to lighten-up, this is an anonymous blog, it could if been Donald J., and you would never know. Back to the bloggers comment, if the object was too yank-your-chains, I think he/she did a great job. We all know that PA/NJ does not suck, its average at best.

-Your Mother

Anonymous said...

haha
the donald tweets
stop retiring in PA then you NJ and NY douches :)

Anonymous said...

Now, now children.... Let Jefferson Cup decide who sucks and who does not. NY, MD, PA, and NJ are all represented in the Championship Bracket.. Minus MD, they are all represented in the Elite Orange bracket as well. Bragging rights should be earned! If you get smoked at a tourney then take your verbal beating and move on. Its hysterical to read though. To guess who will win the Championship brackets is a huge toss up.. It almost could be each one of those teams.

Anonymous said...

The only time I would retire in PA is when I get a flat-tire, heard labor is cheaper.

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