Wednesday, July 1, 2015

U14G / U14 Girls Youth Soccer

U14G  / U14 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

11:02

not talking about the league just the training at the club!

Anonymous said...

On the heels of a very successful use of the Spirit United tournaments Flight 4 to work on tactics, it appears as if PDA Shore has found their way into the top flight of the STA event and a face off with Wildcats in the final. Wildcats gain a final with a 0-0 draw against the #36 team in NY and a 2-1 result over a NJ state #29.

Wildcats should win the final as the state #1 but given PDA's masterful use of Spirit to prepare for STA, don't count those PDAers out.

And the winner gets to earn all of those points....yippee!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Wrong wildcats team
#1 in state is NJ Wildcats AVERBUCH

The old NJCSA Galaxy team is now NJ Wildcats Galaxy

That is who is in STA finals

And top flight wasn't hard to reach as there were only 2 flights
With only 6 teams in top flight vs. 8 teams in last years U13 sta top flight.

Seems slot of teams passed on this tournament this year.

Anonymous said...

11:37 you do know that's the Wildcats B team the Galaxy aka NJCSA Galaxy aka NJ Force

Anonymous said...

11:05 I guess your kid played for all the teams you mentioned? How else can you say the training is better? It all depends on the Coach and the level of training they have plus creds.

Anonymous said...

PS Don't say all teams play the same way. I have seen a 4 PDA teams play last year and they did not all play the same way

Anonymous said...

The 7 Defending Champions from u13 going into u14. yes they are the champions for a full year until someone else takes the crown at u14.

NEFC - defending NPL champion and New England NPL Champion

PDA Dragons - defending North East NPL champion and NPL Semi-Finalist

STA - defending NYCSL NPL Champion

NJ Wildcats - defending EDP NPL Champion

FC Virginia - defending Virginia NPL Champion

South Shore Select - defending Region1 CL Champion

FC Frederick 01 -defending Region1 Champion

This year NYCSL and NewEngland NPLs add their crossover cup to the mix.
last year the top 4 teams would have been split into 2 groups with the winner going to Indiana

STA, NYSC, NJ Crush and ISA
NEFC, Oakwood, Seacoast, GPS

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

Are you telling me with all of those championsites that are listed, the mighty match fit does not have a champion????. Doesn't match fit have national team players and the very best training? Oh that's right national team players left for pda and half of the match fit trainers and coaches quit or got fired. Smoke and mirrors. They absorbed very good town teams and now they are falling apart.

Anonymous said...

Successful use of F4 flight for use of tactical training? That's a pretty good one and you can almost here the coach yelling "kick it to the girl in the same colored shirt". And all that tactical bench conversation like "make sure to mention to your parents that club fees are due".

Anonymous said...

12:41 that's correct they did and the toxic got "toxicer" on that team. Enjoy pda! Hahahaha

Anonymous said...

I need to apologize to the spellcheck Nazi. I meant to say "hear" in post 12:44. Usta busta dumkoff Herr Spellchecker

Anonymous said...

This one is for you GS 4 Strife

We are the champions, my friend
And well keep on bragging till the end
Cause we are the champions, yes we are the champions,
Of our world....

Music not necessary, but if it helps, go for it

Anonymous said...

Love it 1:53 and this one is for NEFC - the first in our age group to win a "treble'

New England NPL Champions
NPL Champions
National Cup Champions


Some more results from today

11 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS
4 MASS CITY F.C. PREMIERSHIP

1 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02
0 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

Shame on NEFC for allowing Mass City to score four goals.

Anonymous said...

Morris United STA Fall Kick Off 2015 Final
1 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
0 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)

Anonymous said...

NPL Virginia Fall 2015

Pts (GP)
3 (1) FC VIRGINIA
3 (1) VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER
1 (1) CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION
1 (1) PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER
1 (1) CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC
1 (1) FC UNITED
- (-) NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB
- (-) RICHMOND KICKERS
- (-) RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB
- (-) VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB
0 (1) ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB
0 (1) VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION

Anonymous said...

2016 D1 Commitments via top drawer (HS Seniors)

NJ
17 PDA
16 New Jersey Stallions Academy
12 Match Fit Academy FC
4 World Class FC
3 Winslow SC
3 New Jersey Rush
1 NJ Crush FC
1 TSF Academy

PA
9 Continental FC DELCO
7 FC Bucks
7 Penn Fusion
4 FC Philadelphia
2 Pittsburgh Riverhounds
1 FC Europa
1 FC Providence
1 FC Revolution
1 Hershey YSA
1 HMMS Eagle FC

NY
3 Albertson SC
3 East Meadow SC
3 Syracuse Development Academy
2 Buffalo Soccer Academy
2 Quickstrike FC
1 New York SC
1 NY Elite FC

CT
8 Connecticut FC
2 FSA FC United
1 Oakwood SC
1 Academica FC

VA
15 FC Virginia
3 McLean Youth Soccer
2 Northern Virginia SC
2 Prince William Courage
2 Richmond Kickers SC
2 Richmond United
2 Virginia SA
2 Braddock Road YC
1 Davidsonville AA
1 FC United
1 Richmond Strikers

Anonymous said...

Way off on both MF and PDA who have close to 30 each.

Anonymous said...

3:41 what part of that was Top Drawers list didn't you understand? If they didn't register they wouldn't be counted.

Anonymous said...

5 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ
0 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL

3 LAGRANGE RAGE
3 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES

1 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EMSC NPL STARS
0 LEVITTOWN SUPERSONICS

2 FC LONG ISLAND ALLIANCE 01
0 NORTH BABYLON PATRIOT SC/ SCORE F.C. PRIDE

Anonymous said...

I met some of the NEFC parents in Indiana, and after spending some time talking about baseball, we got to the team, and after 5 minutes, I know why they run-up scores, its their nature. Of all the team parents that I have meet these past 3 years, this bunch not only has to win, but everyone has to lose. Not sure if we can, but we are going to try to knock them down a notch, wish us luck.

Anonymous said...

4 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS
1 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02

TBD
EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ
SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EMSC NPL STARS

u14 Tournament Records (NPLs+ ECNL + EDP D1)

PTS (GP)
21 (8) NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN
19 (8) PDA SHORE FUSION
18 (7) PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL
17 (8) PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL
12 (4) NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS
12 (4) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS
10 (4) NJ WILDCATS GALAXY
10 (6) CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F
09 (3) EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ
09 (4) FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL
09 (4) GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02
09 (4) BETHESDA SC STORM 01
07 (3) PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
07 (3) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
07 (3) HBC SPARK
07 (4) CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '01
07 (3) SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EMSC NPL STARS
07 (4) VIRGINIA RUSH GIRLS U14
07 (6) FC BUCKS SHOCKERS
06 (3) SJEB '01G NPL
05 (3) ISA 01 NPL
04 (3) PIPELINE BLACK
04 (3) MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES
04 (3) ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL
04 (3) WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL
03 (2) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL
03 (3) UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTER
03 (3) NJ REAL SOUNDERS
03 (3) HFC READY '01
03 (3) CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE
03 (3) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
03 (3) SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02
02 (3) 1776 UNITED FC XTREME
02 (3) AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL
01 (3) HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
01 (3) RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA
01 (3) MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL
01 (3) PDA AJAX
00 (3) GPS NJ FLASH U14G ELITE

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

u14 GS Points (NPLs+ ECNL + EDP D1)

TBD
Morris United STA Fall Kick Off 2015
NEFC Fall KICKOFF 2015
37th Annual East Meadow Soccer Tournament

GS Points @ U14
8496 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL
4729 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL
3850 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL
3335 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '01
2270 NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN
1475 SJEB '01G NPL
0626 CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F
0625 HFC READY '01
0325 PDA SHORE FUSION
0254 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (7 (4))
0158 HBC SPARK
0098 VIRGINIA RUSH GIRLS U14

Anonymous said...

Who said the Morris United Fall Classic had a weak field. It has 4 of the top 11 teams in the state of NJ. The#2, 7, 10 and 11 teams. Congratulations to the finalists PDA Shore and winner Galaxy.

Anonymous said...

You just stated what a weak field it was by your post. Four of the top eleven teams in NJ. After the top two, what is there to talk about. Not to trash NJ soccer, but most Region One states have a limited amount of top notch teams. The drop off after the top three is quite dramatic.

Anonymous said...

Not in NJ. They are all good.

Anonymous said...

Nj soccer looks like a pinball machine. Might as well be volley ball, the ball never touches the ground.

Anonymous said...

7:29. Who are these good teams in NJ that dominate when teams from other states are involved in tourney play? And I am not knocking NJ here and do believe NJ has two very good teams that can play with other states top teams. But as a region, we are not near as deep as southwest teams or pacific west teams. PA has maybe two or three good teams, NY about the same. DE and MD have well....hmmmm.

Anonymous said...

So, the judgment is that NJ only has 2 good teams, solely because you dont like the tactics employed by Wildcats?

Okey doke.

Anonymous said...

PDA And matchfit. Great job in league play and last outside the region tournament.

Anonymous said...

No 8:33. I am strictly talking about results when our teams in our home states go and play teams outside of their region. Did I mention which teams in each state are the top 2 or 3 (Don't think so)? Funny that you rushed in about how the Wildcats play. Saying that four teams out of the top eleven makes for a strong showing in a tournament is pretty far from the truth. Unless your the parent of the 11th ranked team and want to group yourself with the top.

Anonymous said...

The NJ teams bring a lot of GS points to the tournaments.

Anonymous said...

I am one of the ones on here that appreciate GS for what it is. A tool to find teams and how they preformed against others. As far as the points system, its as misleading as a congressman under indictment. And I'm speaking as a parent that benefits from GS.

Anonymous said...

9:27

You insult many NJ players who work hard at this game and make it a big part of their lives.

A tenth ranked team in NJ is not supposed to defeat a 1/2 ranked team in another state. This doesnt mean they dont deserve to play that game, to have that opportunity.

Anonymous said...

9:27, totally agree!

Anonymous said...

11:12. I offer a simple garment of truth and you say it fits me perfectly. I not insulting any players or teams, or the fact that a lower ranked team should have the right to play higher ranked ones. Simply asking the poster not to claim top teams are in a league or tournament because of their rankings. Also stated Region One in general. not NJ. You should read all the subject matter before responding.

Anonymous said...

11:12 - you mean the post insults many parents who work hard, then travel all over the place for their kids to play a game. These kids go to school, study, maybe play for their school in addition to club soccer and that's all they do with soccer. What % watch a game on their own? I'm willing to bet it's the same 1% that make it.

Anonymous said...

Great job pda and matchfit. Great showing! Two up and coming teams

Anonymous said...

Please can you stop talking about the old MF NJX/NPL as that team is no more.
Those players who carried that team to whatever success it achieved all went to MF ECNL team.
The current MF NE-NPL Team cannot be judged by the results of last years MF NE-NPL Team.
When they start playing this weekend and beyond we will have a track record to begin to track the strength of that team moving forward.

Anonymous said...

Week 1 in the books for the NPL Virginia Fall 2015 season. No more play for these teams. Well actually they get some tournament action next week before they return back to business with their Next games Sun, September 13, 2015.
With just one game under their belts no really big games this week except for VA Rush who play the Strikers in a game of knockout - one can knock the other a peg down and get the h2h advantage early in the season. Assuming nothing has changed in VA - our VA poster can shed some light here, the winner of the Fall clinches at least a 1 game playoff if they don't win the Spring season and can concentrate on some nice showcase tournaments in the Spring or the RCL if they are doing both.


3 (1) +3 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB
3 (1) +1 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB
3 (1) +1 FC VIRGINIA
3 (1) +1 VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER
1 (1) +0 CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION
1 (1) +0 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER
1 (1) +0 CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC
1 (1) +0 FC UNITED
0 (1) -1 RICHMOND KICKERS
0 (1) -1 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB
0 (1) -1 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION
0 (1) -3 NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB


VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION
CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC

FC UNITED
ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB

FC VIRGINIA
RICHMOND KICKERS

RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB
VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB

NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB
PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER

VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER
CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

US Club NY Cup 2016 Groups

A
FCLI United G01
New York SC G01
Ramapo Valley SC Tornados '02
Silver Lake SA Storm

B
HBC Sparks
Clarkstown SC 2002 White
Manhattan SC G'01 Pride
Rye YS Rapids

C
Perfect Touch SAG01-02
Downtown United SC GU14 White
Hauppauge SC Hot Shotz
Atletico FC Girls '01.

D
Levittown SC Supersonics
SABA Brooklyn City
Albertson SC Fury 01
Albertson SC Lightning

E
FC South Shore 01-02
New Hyde Park WSC Lady Jaguars
FC Westchester FCWE 02 Navy
Quickstrike FC QSFC Elite 02's

F
FC Westchester FCWE 02 White
Commack SL FC Barracudas
New Rochelle FC RT Premier
SC Gjoa Raiders

G
FCLI Alliance G01
Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies
Nirvana Intensity
OGRCC Greenwich United Morgan

H
Asphalt Green FC Arsenal
LaGrange SC Rage
North Babylon Patriot SC Pride/Score F.C.
White Plains YSA United 01

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

GS 4 LIfe. If you can find it, can you throw out the teams that will be in the Region One EDP League? Or give a heads up on the link to find it? You seem to have knowledge of every league and tourney that has GS Points attached.
PL Parent

Anonymous said...

Forgot to say thanks
PL parent

Anonymous said...

Region I Champions League, 2015-2016 (RCL)

2015-16 Timeline

September 1, 2015 – Application Open

October 10, 2015 – Application Close

November 1 – Acceptances/Placements Announced

December 15 – Schedules Complete



EDP League
http://www.edpsoccer.org/page/show/2063578-edp-fall-2015-schedule-standings

1st Division North
BEACHSIDE SC CT
@@ HBC SPARK
JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH
** JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NP
NJ WILDCATS GALAXY
** NJCSA ELITE
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02
** TSF ACADEMY 01/02G
1st Division Central
** FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS
** NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE
** @@ NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
PDA SHORE FUSION
REAL SOUNDERS
** SJEB '01G NPL
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK
1st Division South
@@ CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE
1776 UNITED FC XTREME
BETHESDA STORM 01
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
HFC READY '01
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION
PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
@@ PIPELINE BLACK
RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA

** 7 NPL teams from 2014/2015
http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=43063&Gender=Girls&Age=13
Not sure what the 2015/2016 list looks like

@@ USA Champions League 2014/2015
http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=46427&Gender=Girls&Age=13


GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

Looks like a long time PDA Storm player joins Match Fit ECNL. Player listed on ECNL Roster

Anonymous said...

Central Division is the toughest one to get through

Anonymous said...

Wildcats a cut above all of those teams unfortunately.

Anonymous said...

MF stole a player from PDA?

Anonymous said...

Yes, those rosters are always in flux after ECNL starts at U14 with players constantly moving.
It's like 3 card monte with those 2 teams.

Anonymous said...

Wait till next year when they make the age change, will get really ugly. Especially for the older girls.

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats the new top NON-ECNL club in NJ with 2 in the top 10.
With PDA moving away from GS -The Dragons have dropped out of the NJ Top 3 leaving just PDA Shore, are they the new Ajax? Do they have a free pass to play in as many GS events as Ajax did? Remember those days when Ajax was in the top 5 now they are not even on Page 1- also lets not forget GS sucks. NJ top teams are not listed - well guess what those PDA/MF teams won'teven play in the NJ NCS but I'm sure most if not all of these teams will.

NJ just got a GS face lift as far as teams playing for NJ titles representing the other 99% - see ya PDA/MF enjoy ECNL and your NE NPL good luck and bring home a National title or 2 every year

New NJ GS Top 10
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL
REAL NJSC SOUNDERS
NJ WILDCATS GALAXY
PDA SHORE FUSION
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION
SJEB '01G NP
NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE
NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN

GS 4 life

Anonymous said...

Can I say something constructive about the Wildcats? Can you guys please change those uniforms, that logo is outdated and conveys a goofy approach to soccer. Try something more European, like a big WC, or something, your brand looks tired.

Anonymous said...

GS 4 Life, you just lost all credibility.

Anonymous said...

Couldn't say it better myself 11:16.

Anonymous said...

Never wanted credibility. PDA wan't nothing to do with GS so be gone. MF does they use the account they feel they want to push, both are out of the top 10. Be gone and good luck.

It's going to be interesting who the top non ecnl/ne npl team is in Nj

Anonymous said...

Pathetic 11:23, good luck to your team & leave ours alone.

Anonymous said...

2015-2016 NJ YOUTH SOCCER

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES

Sept. 8 Registration Deadline
Sept.12 Flighting
Sept 19/20, 26/27 Oct 3/4 Play Dates*
Oct 17 Round of 16
Oct 25 Quarter
Nov 7 Semi Finals
Nov 8 Finals

Anonymous said...

11:29 why because PDA Ajax, PDA Dragons, MF NE NPL, PDA Storm or MF ECNL are not in the GS NJ top 10. Don't cry PDA doesn't want Dragons to be at the top, Ajax is trying but can't place. MF NE NPL is not there yet, the ECNL teams will disappear this year, so I'm pathetic because i want to talk about PDA Shore and the other teams fighting for a NJ NCS 1st then a region1 Championship with an eye on the USYSA National Championship.

You know you are right I'll even stop with my NPL updates and flight projections do them yourself. Last post this should make you guys happy. I know I won't let the door hit me on my way out.

Gs 4 Life

Anonymous said...

GS 4 Life. Like yours I enjoy the posts on this blog. Now if you put GS aside what would your top ten NJ list be? Just curious..

Anonymous said...

A true top 10!would include all the teams he mentioned. You can not talk about teams that are not using GS "correctly" all you want. Those teams still have more talent and are better than the teams you talk about. College coaches will still take kids from these teams over the GS top ten teams. Not because of who they play for but because they have more talent.

Anonymous said...

Top ten:

PDA Storm
MF ECNL
PDA Dragons
STA
Wildcats
PDA AJAX
Crush
TSF
MF NPL
Jersey Shore Boca

Anonymous said...

Maybe Rush or SJEB gets in there somewhere.

Anonymous said...

GS 4 "get a" Life

Anonymous said...

BOCA, TSF, Rush, Crush need to do some more work before real top 10

Anonymous said...

Then suggest someone else. I went by last years results and what I know of these teams. I am sure the list will change over the next 6 months.

Anonymous said...

How does one successfully train/coach a top, elite girls soccer team who himself/herself has barely played the sport? Isn't that a fair question to ask? Going down that top 10 list I wonder which team has the coach who has the least amount of playing experience as a child or at collegiate level.

Anonymous said...

while I see where you are going I have seen many coaches in the pros with limited playing experience. And you can't discount his results whether you like him or not. My daughter does not play for him but he is a good trainer/coach. Move on.

Anonymous said...

146.

They don't. I have no idea who you are talking about so there is no bias here. But in general there are so many very average coaches making a living off of us that the percentage is extremely low that anyone of that resume would be qualified to teach your daughter the specific nuances of the game to really teach the specific skills.

And as you know winning is not an accurate measure.

Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

MFA stole a player from PDA that PDA actually wanted? Alert the media! I think that is a first!

Rumor has it that PDA takes MFA's top players that MFA coddles and caters to and MFA takes girls that- best case - are bench warmers on PDA A team but more commonly gets girls who were cut from PDA A team or on PDA B/C team...

Maybe this age group will be different than the others given the U-14 talent at MFA.

Anonymous said...

It is certainly a nice budding rivalry at this age level

Just have to look at the last tome the 2 teams played. If they played ten times I could see each winning three.

Anonymous said...

Matchfit has no shot against pda anymore. There best shot was last year.

Anonymous said...

1:05

Nice list. I'd have the PDAs a bit lower.....

Anonymous said...

As usual the Soccer Nut is right on the money again. His post about winning not being an accurate measuring tool regarding how proficient a coach is at teaching soccer skills, and not just teaching the team to get the ball to the best player. Clubs that have winning teams at younger ages will make you believe that your daughter is being coached at the highest level (been there). When in truth these teams simply have more athletes at that time and can overwhelm the competition. Its not until you move on to another club and find out your daughter is not as skilled as you thought. That's when you realize all those little medals won in F4 and F3 tournaments weren't really building a skill set, just the clubs bank account.
PL Parent

Anonymous said...

What's your list? I out it out there, just my opinion. Love to see others give it a shot.

Anonymous said...

5:31, while I agree with you and Soccer Nut, the truth is that the smaller club teams that had success at a younger age don't attract new talent or lose their best players to PDA, MF, etc. It's not that that the girls didn't develop but the team didn't pick up new pieces to keep pace with the stronger clubs. The stronger clubs primarily get stronger every year buy picking up new players not by just developong the ones they have. I think the training at Crush, Wildcats, STA, etc is very good they just lose their best players and/or don't pick up stronger talent.

Anonymous said...

We'll see, 5:09

Best of luck to both this weekend - maybe we see the first matchup of the 2 titans right away

Anonymous said...

Good point 5:38. Sometimes when the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence, it really is. But very often its greener because the bulls shit there. In PA Penn Fusion will continue to draw players from smaller clubs much in the way PDA does, its a choice of being a star on a smaller clubs team or on a team of stars and being challenged every day at practice. It is a challenge for smaller clubs to keep their players, unfortunately it puts a priority on winning.
PL Parent

Anonymous said...

Well said PL man.

Anonymous said...

5 :38

What do you personally use as a criteria for good training. I am curios and would like to compare notes.


Soccer Nutrition

Anonymous said...

Soccer is a team game. Lets play the games and see what happens. I will say I hate the PDA/MFA arms race that is going on. Both are great clubs, but this stuff doesn't make either look that good.

Anonymous said...

Funny. Spell check got in the way of that one

Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

Hey Soccer Nutrition, bring your daughter to a training session at one of these clubs to find out. And maybe you can give some pointers on the proper nutrition for a player.

Anonymous said...

Actually I have question for the Soccer Nutter and you experts out there. Some club refuse to have their players work on set plays (attacking and defending), until after the U15 age. These clubs will tell their parents that time spent working on set plays is time lost working on foot skills. Even at price of losing games to teams that do work on them. Any thoughts fellas?

Anonymous said...

As to the rankings I agree PDA Dragons too high at #3.
They lost top 4 players to Storm and a good coach who led their rise at U13.
Also STA lost their best player to Storm and not sure if they have the ability to pick up players of similar talent with all the ECNL comp up north from PDA, MF and World Class.

Anonymous said...

Until the Dragons play you don't know how good they are. Right now , based on last year, you have to keep them at 3. I would say the same about MF NPL although we know they changed significantly. We will see this weekend.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the coach of the Dragons and who is their new coach?

Anonymous said...

He was promoted to an older ECNL Team.

Anonymous said...

PL Parent nicely written, yes those clubs attract the top talent from smaller clubs but many in PA realize those players that Penn Fusion attracted playing on the US national level were groomed from other clubs vs. PDA many players do get groomed within that's the biggest difference.

That's why winning is not the emphasis at the younger levels it's about finding a training that is good on the individual player.

Anonymous said...

Any predictions for the Stars of Mass Cup?

Anonymous said...

818.


if you do not have a sound technical foundation, you cannot be taught the game. Most teams, even at u15 have had a poor technical Instructions so the ability for them to be able to hold the ball long enough and execute on the offensive side is generally out of the question.


Coaches can and will delay the tactical side under the banner that the team needs to get more technical when in reality the kids under their purview have not and will not be taught the technical side. So these kids will linger in "Soccer limbo" their games are more like high pressure soccer tennis with no tactical play except for some set play on corner kicks, some over lapping and coordinated defensive pressure.


For the few that are fortunate to have been taught a solid technical foundation, Real tactical concepts start as early as u12 in simple concepts of spacing and overlapping , switching the field, forwards running in a C pattern and defensive coordination. Your club should be introducing these concepts early on. first in fun games and then on the field. This is the foundation of more advanced tactical play at the older ages.

So if your club has not introduced any of these concepts to your group, then its safe to say that what you are being told is the old "we don't care winning" because the team doesn't win.


All advanced tactical work begins with foundation play that starts as early as u11-yes they are basic, but they are building blocks for the more advanced stuff. So you can tell early on if your club tis legit just by understanding the progression of training.


It would probably be beneficial if you read the USSF training manual for youth soccer that describes in great detail age appropiate training progression and compare it to what your club is doing.


Don't expect perfect adherence but it should be pretty close.


Soccer Nut




Anonymous said...

You mentioned U11 and U12 as the building block years and that is accurate (in my view anyway. It is why you see teams that are really strong in the 8v8 world, fall apart when they get to 11v11. An 8v8 team that has a few dominant athletes can hold their own with most teams, but a teams lack of those building blocks rear their ugly head on the big field. In PA, the Ukrainians and FC Revolutions team come to mind as a team that really dropped off. They were a very strong 8v8 team. PA Classics improved when moved up to 11v11
PL Parent

Anonymous said...

It goes to my point earlier whether it is 8v8 going to 11v11 or trying to maintain or increase the competitive nature of your team from U12 onward. It has a lot to do with continually bringing new talented girls and keeping the ones you have. Tough for teams to do to stay competitive. That is why you sometime see coaches from those teams on this site. They realize they need the perception of their team to be prestine in order to attract talent. Unfortunately, it is much easier for the ECNL clubs and their "B" teams as they are more organized and have proven track records.

Anonymous said...

Although there are always a couple of teams from each state that reamin competitive. Not always the same team so I have to assume the coach has a lot to do with that at the age group. At this age group I see it as PL an PA Classics from PA, Wildcats and STA from NJ, NYSC and GB from NY.

Anonymous said...

I am not in agreement with your nj choices but it is only my opinion.

Soccer Nut.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate your opinion so please provide the teams you think should be there. I still think they are the top two teams in NJ with the exception of the PDA and MF teams. Maybe that changes this year, maybe it doesnt.

Anonymous said...

Good call 9:41. PL has added 9 players in the last three years and the 8v8 coach was a great "building blocks" coach. Many parents were ready to leave when it was announced that he was not returning.

Anonymous said...

You will see PL drop and PA Classics over take them either this year or next yr. Just not enough talent in the area to support 2 competitive teams. Same problem in the reading area with FC revolution and Rage. If the clubs would join up the teams would be much better but it is starting to get watered down. Just like there is not enough talent in the Phila area to support 3 competitive ECNL teams. Although some of the better girls from EPA have parents willing to drive to PF, CFC or FC Bucks in hopes that their little mia gets better coaching and better competition.

Anonymous said...

Problem with some of these players that hop around is they hop for a reason..... Some are big time headaches! one of them in particular is and the acting of being hurt when you get shut down is starting to get old. All the girls will need to step up this season and come together as teams...... Sometimes difficult with the wrong individuals..... Good luck and we will see.

Anonymous said...

11:02. Did you happen to notice how the earlier post in this discussion remained neutral in regards to teams. You have an obvious ax to grind and its pretty clear where your from (and your daughters former team). Don't worry, your daughter will do just fine where she is. By the way, Rage is doing just fine.

Anonymous said...

12:22 - No most of the teams I mentioned were brought up. PL, PAC, FCR, ECNL teams. Only one that wasn't was Rage. So if you are a rage parent and take offense to something I said sorry. It was not a put down on your team just my insight. I feel if teams from smaller markets would join they would be better then splits the girls up between 2 teams.

I hope Rage has a great year.I truly do.

Anonymous said...

Any thoughts on lack of set plays in practice, you ask?

Yeah -

let the coaches coach

Anonymous said...

Guarentee many parents are already planning their move for next year as the birth year roster comes into effect. Current stronger teams like PL will most likely no longer be strong at all. My guess is half will go to nearby PAC while a few of their better players may decide to make the trip to PF.

Anonymous said...

@2:52

You have to do better than that!

You must be a coach.

Anonymous said...

So we are on a top 5-12 team lets say, and we never do tactical training, it is all ball movement, small grids, passing, one touch. At times we will do some tactical movement up to the goal and take shots, but very rare. We usually do running for first 15 minutes then work on moving the ball. We never practice corner kicks, penalty shots in or out, crosses ever. I can see in the matches it affects without a doubt our winning chances. The girls have no idea almost how to handle corner kicks, again, on defense or offense. Also when we take penalty shots outside 18 it is usually a disaster, it sails over the net, to right or left. No set play to lob ball into strikers to score or header. We do have a well known coach/trainer in the area with good rep. It is very interesting because we never say anything, we are afraid of the coach, lol. Soccer nut great information. however we are top 10 current and have been for about 1 year now, so we win, against D1 EDP teams, I guess the real answer is if you win or lose and are you really developing with win or lose in mind. My old man opinion is this after watching several hundred matches: The set play, corner or outside 18, can be the one goal you need to win, or on defense it could be the one goal you need to stop. So spend a little time on it, just a little. But I could certainly be wrong.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like it's time to club shop 3:24. Why is your kid there?

Anonymous said...

@3:24

It sounds very much like your coach is giving you half a meal.

Anonymous said...

That training has all the earmarks of the inferior Crush training. They did the same thing. Terrible training.

Anonymous said...

Great input, however poster 3:24 clearly states they are winning in division 1 and top 10. So is there come merit to this type of training? Crush is top 10 btw, so again a top 10 doing this type of training could work.

Anonymous said...

PL?

Anonymous said...

@412.

Make sure you tell the college recruiter that even though your daughter has no other skills. That she was on a winning team. I am sure that will go over well.

Anonymous said...

College Recruiter: Sorry Mr. Miller but we are rejecting your daughter Miya's application to attend Notre Dame.

Mr. Miller: But Miya's team won the NJ State Cup in 2013, 2015 & 2016.

College Recruiter: Sorry, doesn't matter.

Mr. Miller: But Miya runs a 6 minute mile backwards blindfolded.

College Recruiter: Sorry, still doesn't matter.

Mr. Miller: Miya also kicks the perfect "through ball" & can chase one down too. Her coach always had her do this in games, it was insane how good she got at it.

College Recruiter: That's good for her but not for us.

Mr. Miller: Did you see that her team was #1 every year from 2008-2016 according to GotSoccer.

College Recruiter: Sorry, we don't care about that.

Mr. Miller: Her team was always talked about on this Blog in New Jersey, my wife & I were obsessed with it because we knew everyone was talking about Miya's team because they were so jealous of us.

College Recruiter: Good bye (& hangs up).

Mr. Miller: Sir?

Mr. Miller: Sir?



Anonymous said...

Its looks like Mr. Miller needs a Miller High Life....

Anonymous said...

I wonder where Miya ended up? & what club she played for? LOL, that was a good one 504!

Anonymous said...

She became a crush coach.

Anonymous said...

Dear 2:54. Its a shame that you feel the need to decree the sky is falling for PL. You made a solid decision having your daughter join PF, and since Penn Fusion needed support players for their better players, it will work out well the both of you. You mentioned the better players leaving PL for Penn Fusion, if that holds true, it will the first time.

Anonymous said...

Not too sure who you think you are talking to but you sound quite bitter. There was no insult meant to your daughters team. There will certainly be many more teams in the same boat. My "opinion" is that many will look to PAC next year. Some to PF. If I am wrong, which I don't think I am, when the time comes it will be nothing more than a failed "opinion." Relax and have a cold one.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't looked at as an insult, just a challenging your "insight" a little bit. This blog is all about putting a thought out there and watching it get torn apart. Its what makes it so great. Your vision of next year just seemed a bit jaded. Enjoy your drink.

Anonymous said...

Got to love the over-sensitive parent. You know your kids team is in trouble when.......

On a more interesting note, looking forward to Stars Cup this weekend. No predictions going on?


Greensboro Shootout

U14
Beach 01g
CR Burgundy Rapids G
FC Virginia United Elite '01
NC Fusion 01 ECNL

U15
CR Burgundy Rapids
FC Virginia ECNL 01
NC Fusion 00 ECNL
VBTS Beach FC 00G Red

Interesting that FCV ECNL skips out on both Spirit and Stars yet plays up in a weak tournament.

Anonymous said...

FCV is in Wags. Most likely will be the top team there. Unless the Crush is there too

Anonymous said...

5:35

Let it go already. Life goes on.

Anonymous said...

FC Stars in 2 days. Any predictions?

Anonymous said...

Winner of Boston v PDA storm game will win the top bracket.

Anonymous said...

Does crush play anymore?

Anonymous said...

Looking back to yesterday. 3:24 is your daughter getting a lot of playing time?

Anonymous said...

I like the WHITE bracket better among the top flight

NEFC or East Meadow vs Match Fit or South Shore

Anonymous said...

Blue Bracket - PDA vs FC Stars
White Bracket - East Meadow vs MF

Finals: PDA ovre EM

Anonymous said...

That would be news

Isnt it like 2 years since PDA won a final?

Anonymous said...

At least they are playing in a tournament and taking the chance of looking bad. Its easier to send the Ajax and add a couple players, win a flight and proclaim its all in the development. PDA does ok but gets knocked out before the finals. SS WINS

Anonymous said...

Man, you guys are dense, they don't even play each other, different flights!

Anonymous said...

Same flight, different color

Anonymous said...

Every year Stars has a Blue and white..Both are strong.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, nothing but strong teams in those flights. While we're talking, I got this genuine Rolex and this beautiful patch of land in Florida and if you don't believe that .............

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