11:02not talking about the league just the training at the club!
On the heels of a very successful use of the Spirit United tournaments Flight 4 to work on tactics, it appears as if PDA Shore has found their way into the top flight of the STA event and a face off with Wildcats in the final. Wildcats gain a final with a 0-0 draw against the #36 team in NY and a 2-1 result over a NJ state #29.Wildcats should win the final as the state #1 but given PDA's masterful use of Spirit to prepare for STA, don't count those PDAers out.And the winner gets to earn all of those points....yippee!!!!!!!!!
Wrong wildcats team#1 in state is NJ Wildcats AVERBUCHThe old NJCSA Galaxy team is now NJ Wildcats GalaxyThat is who is in STA finalsAnd top flight wasn't hard to reach as there were only 2 flightsWith only 6 teams in top flight vs. 8 teams in last years U13 sta top flight.Seems slot of teams passed on this tournament this year.
11:37 you do know that's the Wildcats B team the Galaxy aka NJCSA Galaxy aka NJ Force
11:05 I guess your kid played for all the teams you mentioned? How else can you say the training is better? It all depends on the Coach and the level of training they have plus creds.
PS Don't say all teams play the same way. I have seen a 4 PDA teams play last year and they did not all play the same way
The 7 Defending Champions from u13 going into u14. yes they are the champions for a full year until someone else takes the crown at u14.NEFC - defending NPL champion and New England NPL ChampionPDA Dragons - defending North East NPL champion and NPL Semi-FinalistSTA - defending NYCSL NPL ChampionNJ Wildcats - defending EDP NPL ChampionFC Virginia - defending Virginia NPL ChampionSouth Shore Select - defending Region1 CL ChampionFC Frederick 01 -defending Region1 ChampionThis year NYCSL and NewEngland NPLs add their crossover cup to the mix.last year the top 4 teams would have been split into 2 groups with the winner going to IndianaSTA, NYSC, NJ Crush and ISANEFC, Oakwood, Seacoast, GPSGS 4 Life
Are you telling me with all of those championsites that are listed, the mighty match fit does not have a champion????. Doesn't match fit have national team players and the very best training? Oh that's right national team players left for pda and half of the match fit trainers and coaches quit or got fired. Smoke and mirrors. They absorbed very good town teams and now they are falling apart.
Successful use of F4 flight for use of tactical training? That's a pretty good one and you can almost here the coach yelling "kick it to the girl in the same colored shirt". And all that tactical bench conversation like "make sure to mention to your parents that club fees are due".
12:41 that's correct they did and the toxic got "toxicer" on that team. Enjoy pda! Hahahaha
I need to apologize to the spellcheck Nazi. I meant to say "hear" in post 12:44. Usta busta dumkoff Herr Spellchecker
This one is for you GS 4 StrifeWe are the champions, my friendAnd well keep on bragging till the endCause we are the champions, yes we are the champions,Of our world.... Music not necessary, but if it helps, go for it
Love it 1:53 and this one is for NEFC - the first in our age group to win a "treble'New England NPL ChampionsNPL ChampionsNational Cup Champions Some more results from today11 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS4 MASS CITY F.C. PREMIERSHIP1 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/020 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02GS 4 Life
Shame on NEFC for allowing Mass City to score four goals.
Morris United STA Fall Kick Off 2015 Final1 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)0 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
NPL Virginia Fall 2015Pts (GP)3 (1) FC VIRGINIA3 (1) VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER1 (1) CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION1 (1) PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER1 (1) CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC 1 (1) FC UNITED - (-) NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB- (-) RICHMOND KICKERS- (-) RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB- (-) VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB 0 (1) ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB0 (1) VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION
2016 D1 Commitments via top drawer (HS Seniors)NJ17 PDA16 New Jersey Stallions Academy12 Match Fit Academy FC4 World Class FC3 Winslow SC 3 New Jersey Rush1 NJ Crush FC1 TSF Academy PA9 Continental FC DELCO 7 FC Bucks7 Penn Fusion4 FC Philadelphia2 Pittsburgh Riverhounds1 FC Europa1 FC Providence1 FC Revolution1 Hershey YSA1 HMMS Eagle FCNY3 Albertson SC3 East Meadow SC3 Syracuse Development Academy2 Buffalo Soccer Academy2 Quickstrike FC1 New York SC1 NY Elite FCCT8 Connecticut FC2 FSA FC United1 Oakwood SC1 Academica FCVA15 FC Virginia3 McLean Youth Soccer2 Northern Virginia SC2 Prince William Courage2 Richmond Kickers SC2 Richmond United2 Virginia SA2 Braddock Road YC1 Davidsonville AA1 FC United1 Richmond Strikers
Way off on both MF and PDA who have close to 30 each.
3:41 what part of that was Top Drawers list didn't you understand? If they didn't register they wouldn't be counted.
5 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ0 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL3 LAGRANGE RAGE3 MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES1 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EMSC NPL STARS0 LEVITTOWN SUPERSONICS2 FC LONG ISLAND ALLIANCE 010 NORTH BABYLON PATRIOT SC/ SCORE F.C. PRIDE
I met some of the NEFC parents in Indiana, and after spending some time talking about baseball, we got to the team, and after 5 minutes, I know why they run-up scores, its their nature. Of all the team parents that I have meet these past 3 years, this bunch not only has to win, but everyone has to lose. Not sure if we can, but we are going to try to knock them down a notch, wish us luck.
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u14 GS Points (NPLs+ ECNL + EDP D1)TBDMorris United STA Fall Kick Off 2015NEFC Fall KICKOFF 201537th Annual East Meadow Soccer TournamentGS Points @ U148496 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL4729 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL3850 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL3335 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '012270 NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN1475 SJEB '01G NPL0626 CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F0625 HFC READY '010325 PDA SHORE FUSION0254 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (7 (4))0158 HBC SPARK0098 VIRGINIA RUSH GIRLS U14
Who said the Morris United Fall Classic had a weak field. It has 4 of the top 11 teams in the state of NJ. The#2, 7, 10 and 11 teams. Congratulations to the finalists PDA Shore and winner Galaxy.
You just stated what a weak field it was by your post. Four of the top eleven teams in NJ. After the top two, what is there to talk about. Not to trash NJ soccer, but most Region One states have a limited amount of top notch teams. The drop off after the top three is quite dramatic.
Not in NJ. They are all good.
Nj soccer looks like a pinball machine. Might as well be volley ball, the ball never touches the ground.
7:29. Who are these good teams in NJ that dominate when teams from other states are involved in tourney play? And I am not knocking NJ here and do believe NJ has two very good teams that can play with other states top teams. But as a region, we are not near as deep as southwest teams or pacific west teams. PA has maybe two or three good teams, NY about the same. DE and MD have well....hmmmm.
So, the judgment is that NJ only has 2 good teams, solely because you dont like the tactics employed by Wildcats?Okey doke.
PDA And matchfit. Great job in league play and last outside the region tournament.
No 8:33. I am strictly talking about results when our teams in our home states go and play teams outside of their region. Did I mention which teams in each state are the top 2 or 3 (Don't think so)? Funny that you rushed in about how the Wildcats play. Saying that four teams out of the top eleven makes for a strong showing in a tournament is pretty far from the truth. Unless your the parent of the 11th ranked team and want to group yourself with the top.
The NJ teams bring a lot of GS points to the tournaments.
I am one of the ones on here that appreciate GS for what it is. A tool to find teams and how they preformed against others. As far as the points system, its as misleading as a congressman under indictment. And I'm speaking as a parent that benefits from GS.
9:27You insult many NJ players who work hard at this game and make it a big part of their lives.A tenth ranked team in NJ is not supposed to defeat a 1/2 ranked team in another state. This doesnt mean they dont deserve to play that game, to have that opportunity.
9:27, totally agree!
11:12. I offer a simple garment of truth and you say it fits me perfectly. I not insulting any players or teams, or the fact that a lower ranked team should have the right to play higher ranked ones. Simply asking the poster not to claim top teams are in a league or tournament because of their rankings. Also stated Region One in general. not NJ. You should read all the subject matter before responding.
11:12 - you mean the post insults many parents who work hard, then travel all over the place for their kids to play a game. These kids go to school, study, maybe play for their school in addition to club soccer and that's all they do with soccer. What % watch a game on their own? I'm willing to bet it's the same 1% that make it.
Great job pda and matchfit. Great showing! Two up and coming teams
Please can you stop talking about the old MF NJX/NPL as that team is no more.Those players who carried that team to whatever success it achieved all went to MF ECNL team.The current MF NE-NPL Team cannot be judged by the results of last years MF NE-NPL Team.When they start playing this weekend and beyond we will have a track record to begin to track the strength of that team moving forward.
Week 1 in the books for the NPL Virginia Fall 2015 season. No more play for these teams. Well actually they get some tournament action next week before they return back to business with their Next games Sun, September 13, 2015.With just one game under their belts no really big games this week except for VA Rush who play the Strikers in a game of knockout - one can knock the other a peg down and get the h2h advantage early in the season. Assuming nothing has changed in VA - our VA poster can shed some light here, the winner of the Fall clinches at least a 1 game playoff if they don't win the Spring season and can concentrate on some nice showcase tournaments in the Spring or the RCL if they are doing both.3 (1) +3 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB3 (1) +1 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB 3 (1) +1 FC VIRGINIA3 (1) +1 VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER1 (1) +0 CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION1 (1) +0 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER1 (1) +0 CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC1 (1) +0 FC UNITED0 (1) -1 RICHMOND KICKERS0 (1) -1 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB0 (1) -1 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION0 (1) -3 NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATIONCHESTERFIELD UNITED FCFC UNITEDANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBFC VIRGINIARICHMOND KICKERSRICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUBVIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCERVIENNA YOUTH SOCCERCHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATIONGS 4 Life
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GS 4 LIfe. If you can find it, can you throw out the teams that will be in the Region One EDP League? Or give a heads up on the link to find it? You seem to have knowledge of every league and tourney that has GS Points attached.PL Parent
Forgot to say thanksPL parent
Region I Champions League, 2015-2016 (RCL)2015-16 TimelineSeptember 1, 2015 – Application OpenOctober 10, 2015 – Application CloseNovember 1 – Acceptances/Placements AnnouncedDecember 15 – Schedules CompleteEDP Leaguehttp://www.edpsoccer.org/page/show/2063578-edp-fall-2015-schedule-standings1st Division NorthBEACHSIDE SC CT@@ HBC SPARKJERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH ** JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPNJ WILDCATS GALAXY** NJCSA ELITERAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02** TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 1st Division Central** FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPLLEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS** NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE** @@ NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLPDA SHORE FUSIONREAL SOUNDERS** SJEB '01G NPLUKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK 1st Division South@@ CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE1776 UNITED FC XTREMEBETHESDA STORM 01 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDERHFC READY '01JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONPENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK@@ PIPELINE BLACKRAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA ** 7 NPL teams from 2014/2015http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=43063&Gender=Girls&Age=13Not sure what the 2015/2016 list looks like@@ USA Champions League 2014/2015http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=46427&Gender=Girls&Age=13GS 4 Life
Looks like a long time PDA Storm player joins Match Fit ECNL. Player listed on ECNL Roster
Central Division is the toughest one to get through
Wildcats a cut above all of those teams unfortunately.
MF stole a player from PDA?
Yes, those rosters are always in flux after ECNL starts at U14 with players constantly moving.It's like 3 card monte with those 2 teams.
Wait till next year when they make the age change, will get really ugly. Especially for the older girls.
NJ Wildcats the new top NON-ECNL club in NJ with 2 in the top 10.With PDA moving away from GS -The Dragons have dropped out of the NJ Top 3 leaving just PDA Shore, are they the new Ajax? Do they have a free pass to play in as many GS events as Ajax did? Remember those days when Ajax was in the top 5 now they are not even on Page 1- also lets not forget GS sucks. NJ top teams are not listed - well guess what those PDA/MF teams won'teven play in the NJ NCS but I'm sure most if not all of these teams will.NJ just got a GS face lift as far as teams playing for NJ titles representing the other 99% - see ya PDA/MF enjoy ECNL and your NE NPL good luck and bring home a National title or 2 every yearNew NJ GS Top 10 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLSTA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPLREAL NJSC SOUNDERSNJ WILDCATS GALAXYPDA SHORE FUSIONJERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONSJEB '01G NPNEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUENJCSA ELITE-MANALAPANGS 4 life
Can I say something constructive about the Wildcats? Can you guys please change those uniforms, that logo is outdated and conveys a goofy approach to soccer. Try something more European, like a big WC, or something, your brand looks tired.
GS 4 Life, you just lost all credibility.
Couldn't say it better myself 11:16.
Never wanted credibility. PDA wan't nothing to do with GS so be gone. MF does they use the account they feel they want to push, both are out of the top 10. Be gone and good luck.It's going to be interesting who the top non ecnl/ne npl team is in Nj
Pathetic 11:23, good luck to your team & leave ours alone.
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11:29 why because PDA Ajax, PDA Dragons, MF NE NPL, PDA Storm or MF ECNL are not in the GS NJ top 10. Don't cry PDA doesn't want Dragons to be at the top, Ajax is trying but can't place. MF NE NPL is not there yet, the ECNL teams will disappear this year, so I'm pathetic because i want to talk about PDA Shore and the other teams fighting for a NJ NCS 1st then a region1 Championship with an eye on the USYSA National Championship.You know you are right I'll even stop with my NPL updates and flight projections do them yourself. Last post this should make you guys happy. I know I won't let the door hit me on my way out.Gs 4 Life
GS 4 Life. Like yours I enjoy the posts on this blog. Now if you put GS aside what would your top ten NJ list be? Just curious..
A true top 10!would include all the teams he mentioned. You can not talk about teams that are not using GS "correctly" all you want. Those teams still have more talent and are better than the teams you talk about. College coaches will still take kids from these teams over the GS top ten teams. Not because of who they play for but because they have more talent.
Top ten:PDA StormMF ECNLPDA DragonsSTAWildcatsPDA AJAXCrush TSFMF NPLJersey Shore Boca
Maybe Rush or SJEB gets in there somewhere.
GS 4 "get a" Life
BOCA, TSF, Rush, Crush need to do some more work before real top 10
Then suggest someone else. I went by last years results and what I know of these teams. I am sure the list will change over the next 6 months.
How does one successfully train/coach a top, elite girls soccer team who himself/herself has barely played the sport? Isn't that a fair question to ask? Going down that top 10 list I wonder which team has the coach who has the least amount of playing experience as a child or at collegiate level.
while I see where you are going I have seen many coaches in the pros with limited playing experience. And you can't discount his results whether you like him or not. My daughter does not play for him but he is a good trainer/coach. Move on.
146. They don't. I have no idea who you are talking about so there is no bias here. But in general there are so many very average coaches making a living off of us that the percentage is extremely low that anyone of that resume would be qualified to teach your daughter the specific nuances of the game to really teach the specific skills. And as you know winning is not an accurate measure. Soccer Nut
MFA stole a player from PDA that PDA actually wanted? Alert the media! I think that is a first! Rumor has it that PDA takes MFA's top players that MFA coddles and caters to and MFA takes girls that- best case - are bench warmers on PDA A team but more commonly gets girls who were cut from PDA A team or on PDA B/C team...Maybe this age group will be different than the others given the U-14 talent at MFA.
It is certainly a nice budding rivalry at this age levelJust have to look at the last tome the 2 teams played. If they played ten times I could see each winning three.
Matchfit has no shot against pda anymore. There best shot was last year.
1:05Nice list. I'd have the PDAs a bit lower.....
As usual the Soccer Nut is right on the money again. His post about winning not being an accurate measuring tool regarding how proficient a coach is at teaching soccer skills, and not just teaching the team to get the ball to the best player. Clubs that have winning teams at younger ages will make you believe that your daughter is being coached at the highest level (been there). When in truth these teams simply have more athletes at that time and can overwhelm the competition. Its not until you move on to another club and find out your daughter is not as skilled as you thought. That's when you realize all those little medals won in F4 and F3 tournaments weren't really building a skill set, just the clubs bank account.PL Parent
What's your list? I out it out there, just my opinion. Love to see others give it a shot.
5:31, while I agree with you and Soccer Nut, the truth is that the smaller club teams that had success at a younger age don't attract new talent or lose their best players to PDA, MF, etc. It's not that that the girls didn't develop but the team didn't pick up new pieces to keep pace with the stronger clubs. The stronger clubs primarily get stronger every year buy picking up new players not by just developong the ones they have. I think the training at Crush, Wildcats, STA, etc is very good they just lose their best players and/or don't pick up stronger talent.
We'll see, 5:09Best of luck to both this weekend - maybe we see the first matchup of the 2 titans right away
Good point 5:38. Sometimes when the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence, it really is. But very often its greener because the bulls shit there. In PA Penn Fusion will continue to draw players from smaller clubs much in the way PDA does, its a choice of being a star on a smaller clubs team or on a team of stars and being challenged every day at practice. It is a challenge for smaller clubs to keep their players, unfortunately it puts a priority on winning.PL Parent
Well said PL man.
5 :38What do you personally use as a criteria for good training. I am curios and would like to compare notes. Soccer Nutrition
Soccer is a team game. Lets play the games and see what happens. I will say I hate the PDA/MFA arms race that is going on. Both are great clubs, but this stuff doesn't make either look that good.
Funny. Spell check got in the way of that oneSoccer Nut
Hey Soccer Nutrition, bring your daughter to a training session at one of these clubs to find out. And maybe you can give some pointers on the proper nutrition for a player.
Actually I have question for the Soccer Nutter and you experts out there. Some club refuse to have their players work on set plays (attacking and defending), until after the U15 age. These clubs will tell their parents that time spent working on set plays is time lost working on foot skills. Even at price of losing games to teams that do work on them. Any thoughts fellas?
As to the rankings I agree PDA Dragons too high at #3.They lost top 4 players to Storm and a good coach who led their rise at U13.Also STA lost their best player to Storm and not sure if they have the ability to pick up players of similar talent with all the ECNL comp up north from PDA, MF and World Class.
Until the Dragons play you don't know how good they are. Right now , based on last year, you have to keep them at 3. I would say the same about MF NPL although we know they changed significantly. We will see this weekend.
What happened to the coach of the Dragons and who is their new coach?
He was promoted to an older ECNL Team.
PL Parent nicely written, yes those clubs attract the top talent from smaller clubs but many in PA realize those players that Penn Fusion attracted playing on the US national level were groomed from other clubs vs. PDA many players do get groomed within that's the biggest difference. That's why winning is not the emphasis at the younger levels it's about finding a training that is good on the individual player.
Any predictions for the Stars of Mass Cup?
818.if you do not have a sound technical foundation, you cannot be taught the game. Most teams, even at u15 have had a poor technical Instructions so the ability for them to be able to hold the ball long enough and execute on the offensive side is generally out of the question.Coaches can and will delay the tactical side under the banner that the team needs to get more technical when in reality the kids under their purview have not and will not be taught the technical side. So these kids will linger in "Soccer limbo" their games are more like high pressure soccer tennis with no tactical play except for some set play on corner kicks, some over lapping and coordinated defensive pressure.For the few that are fortunate to have been taught a solid technical foundation, Real tactical concepts start as early as u12 in simple concepts of spacing and overlapping , switching the field, forwards running in a C pattern and defensive coordination. Your club should be introducing these concepts early on. first in fun games and then on the field. This is the foundation of more advanced tactical play at the older ages.So if your club has not introduced any of these concepts to your group, then its safe to say that what you are being told is the old "we don't care winning" because the team doesn't win.All advanced tactical work begins with foundation play that starts as early as u11-yes they are basic, but they are building blocks for the more advanced stuff. So you can tell early on if your club tis legit just by understanding the progression of training.It would probably be beneficial if you read the USSF training manual for youth soccer that describes in great detail age appropiate training progression and compare it to what your club is doing.Don't expect perfect adherence but it should be pretty close.Soccer Nut
You mentioned U11 and U12 as the building block years and that is accurate (in my view anyway. It is why you see teams that are really strong in the 8v8 world, fall apart when they get to 11v11. An 8v8 team that has a few dominant athletes can hold their own with most teams, but a teams lack of those building blocks rear their ugly head on the big field. In PA, the Ukrainians and FC Revolutions team come to mind as a team that really dropped off. They were a very strong 8v8 team. PA Classics improved when moved up to 11v11PL Parent
It goes to my point earlier whether it is 8v8 going to 11v11 or trying to maintain or increase the competitive nature of your team from U12 onward. It has a lot to do with continually bringing new talented girls and keeping the ones you have. Tough for teams to do to stay competitive. That is why you sometime see coaches from those teams on this site. They realize they need the perception of their team to be prestine in order to attract talent. Unfortunately, it is much easier for the ECNL clubs and their "B" teams as they are more organized and have proven track records.
Although there are always a couple of teams from each state that reamin competitive. Not always the same team so I have to assume the coach has a lot to do with that at the age group. At this age group I see it as PL an PA Classics from PA, Wildcats and STA from NJ, NYSC and GB from NY.
I am not in agreement with your nj choices but it is only my opinion. Soccer Nut.
I appreciate your opinion so please provide the teams you think should be there. I still think they are the top two teams in NJ with the exception of the PDA and MF teams. Maybe that changes this year, maybe it doesnt.
Good call 9:41. PL has added 9 players in the last three years and the 8v8 coach was a great "building blocks" coach. Many parents were ready to leave when it was announced that he was not returning.
You will see PL drop and PA Classics over take them either this year or next yr. Just not enough talent in the area to support 2 competitive teams. Same problem in the reading area with FC revolution and Rage. If the clubs would join up the teams would be much better but it is starting to get watered down. Just like there is not enough talent in the Phila area to support 3 competitive ECNL teams. Although some of the better girls from EPA have parents willing to drive to PF, CFC or FC Bucks in hopes that their little mia gets better coaching and better competition.
Problem with some of these players that hop around is they hop for a reason..... Some are big time headaches! one of them in particular is and the acting of being hurt when you get shut down is starting to get old. All the girls will need to step up this season and come together as teams...... Sometimes difficult with the wrong individuals..... Good luck and we will see.
11:02. Did you happen to notice how the earlier post in this discussion remained neutral in regards to teams. You have an obvious ax to grind and its pretty clear where your from (and your daughters former team). Don't worry, your daughter will do just fine where she is. By the way, Rage is doing just fine.
12:22 - No most of the teams I mentioned were brought up. PL, PAC, FCR, ECNL teams. Only one that wasn't was Rage. So if you are a rage parent and take offense to something I said sorry. It was not a put down on your team just my insight. I feel if teams from smaller markets would join they would be better then splits the girls up between 2 teams. I hope Rage has a great year.I truly do.
Any thoughts on lack of set plays in practice, you ask?Yeah -let the coaches coach
Guarentee many parents are already planning their move for next year as the birth year roster comes into effect. Current stronger teams like PL will most likely no longer be strong at all. My guess is half will go to nearby PAC while a few of their better players may decide to make the trip to PF.
@2:52You have to do better than that!You must be a coach.
So we are on a top 5-12 team lets say, and we never do tactical training, it is all ball movement, small grids, passing, one touch. At times we will do some tactical movement up to the goal and take shots, but very rare. We usually do running for first 15 minutes then work on moving the ball. We never practice corner kicks, penalty shots in or out, crosses ever. I can see in the matches it affects without a doubt our winning chances. The girls have no idea almost how to handle corner kicks, again, on defense or offense. Also when we take penalty shots outside 18 it is usually a disaster, it sails over the net, to right or left. No set play to lob ball into strikers to score or header. We do have a well known coach/trainer in the area with good rep. It is very interesting because we never say anything, we are afraid of the coach, lol. Soccer nut great information. however we are top 10 current and have been for about 1 year now, so we win, against D1 EDP teams, I guess the real answer is if you win or lose and are you really developing with win or lose in mind. My old man opinion is this after watching several hundred matches: The set play, corner or outside 18, can be the one goal you need to win, or on defense it could be the one goal you need to stop. So spend a little time on it, just a little. But I could certainly be wrong.
Sounds like it's time to club shop 3:24. Why is your kid there?
@3:24It sounds very much like your coach is giving you half a meal.
That training has all the earmarks of the inferior Crush training. They did the same thing. Terrible training.
Great input, however poster 3:24 clearly states they are winning in division 1 and top 10. So is there come merit to this type of training? Crush is top 10 btw, so again a top 10 doing this type of training could work.
@412. Make sure you tell the college recruiter that even though your daughter has no other skills. That she was on a winning team. I am sure that will go over well.
College Recruiter: Sorry Mr. Miller but we are rejecting your daughter Miya's application to attend Notre Dame.Mr. Miller: But Miya's team won the NJ State Cup in 2013, 2015 & 2016.College Recruiter: Sorry, doesn't matter.Mr. Miller: But Miya runs a 6 minute mile backwards blindfolded.College Recruiter: Sorry, still doesn't matter.Mr. Miller: Miya also kicks the perfect "through ball" & can chase one down too. Her coach always had her do this in games, it was insane how good she got at it. College Recruiter: That's good for her but not for us. Mr. Miller: Did you see that her team was #1 every year from 2008-2016 according to GotSoccer.College Recruiter: Sorry, we don't care about that.Mr. Miller: Her team was always talked about on this Blog in New Jersey, my wife & I were obsessed with it because we knew everyone was talking about Miya's team because they were so jealous of us. College Recruiter: Good bye (& hangs up). Mr. Miller: Sir? Mr. Miller: Sir?
Its looks like Mr. Miller needs a Miller High Life....
I wonder where Miya ended up? & what club she played for? LOL, that was a good one 504!
She became a crush coach.
Dear 2:54. Its a shame that you feel the need to decree the sky is falling for PL. You made a solid decision having your daughter join PF, and since Penn Fusion needed support players for their better players, it will work out well the both of you. You mentioned the better players leaving PL for Penn Fusion, if that holds true, it will the first time.
Not too sure who you think you are talking to but you sound quite bitter. There was no insult meant to your daughters team. There will certainly be many more teams in the same boat. My "opinion" is that many will look to PAC next year. Some to PF. If I am wrong, which I don't think I am, when the time comes it will be nothing more than a failed "opinion." Relax and have a cold one.
Wasn't looked at as an insult, just a challenging your "insight" a little bit. This blog is all about putting a thought out there and watching it get torn apart. Its what makes it so great. Your vision of next year just seemed a bit jaded. Enjoy your drink.
Got to love the over-sensitive parent. You know your kids team is in trouble when....... On a more interesting note, looking forward to Stars Cup this weekend. No predictions going on? Greensboro ShootoutU14 Beach 01g CR Burgundy Rapids G FC Virginia United Elite '01 NC Fusion 01 ECNLU15 CR Burgundy Rapids FC Virginia ECNL 01 NC Fusion 00 ECNL VBTS Beach FC 00G RedInteresting that FCV ECNL skips out on both Spirit and Stars yet plays up in a weak tournament.
FCV is in Wags. Most likely will be the top team there. Unless the Crush is there too
5:35Let it go already. Life goes on.
FC Stars in 2 days. Any predictions?
Winner of Boston v PDA storm game will win the top bracket.
Does crush play anymore?
Looking back to yesterday. 3:24 is your daughter getting a lot of playing time?
I like the WHITE bracket better among the top flightNEFC or East Meadow vs Match Fit or South Shore
Blue Bracket - PDA vs FC StarsWhite Bracket - East Meadow vs MFFinals: PDA ovre EM
That would be newsIsnt it like 2 years since PDA won a final?
At least they are playing in a tournament and taking the chance of looking bad. Its easier to send the Ajax and add a couple players, win a flight and proclaim its all in the development. PDA does ok but gets knocked out before the finals. SS WINS
Man, you guys are dense, they don't even play each other, different flights!
Same flight, different color
Every year Stars has a Blue and white..Both are strong.
Yeah, nothing but strong teams in those flights. While we're talking, I got this genuine Rolex and this beautiful patch of land in Florida and if you don't believe that .............
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