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Friday, October 17, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

Can't put Fusion above Legacy until Fusion avenges that 5-1 loss at Spirit. And AJAX was too high. I'd go with:

1. FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01
2. PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
3. PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL
4. WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
5. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NY NPL #2 & EDP #3)
6. PDA DRAGONS (NE NPL #1)
7. NEW YORK SC G01 (NY NPL #1, lost to NENPL3)
8. PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAGS #2)
9. PDA AJAX (NE NPL #3)
10. 1776 UNITED FC XTREMES (PAGS (PAGS #4)
11. CFC ARSENAL SKY (NE NPL #4)
12. SACHEM SPEED (no major league R1 Champs)
13. RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAGS #6)
14. NJCSA GALAXY (EDP #4)
15. PIPELINE BLACK (EDP #5)
16. PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (NE NPL #5)
17. HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAGS #5)
18. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (EDP #8)
19. CREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH BLACK
20. FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01 (VA NPL #2)
21. WORLD CLASS FC '01 HAMM NPL

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

Whoops. And World Class was too high, also.

1. FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01
2. PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
3. PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL
4. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NY NPL #2 & EDP #3)
5. PDA DRAGONS (NE NPL #1)
6. NEW YORK SC G01 (NY NPL #1, lost to NENPL3)
7. PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAGS #2)
8. WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
9. PDA AJAX (NE NPL #3)
10. 1776 UNITED FC XTREMES (PAGS (PAGS #4)
11. CFC ARSENAL SKY (NE NPL #4)
12. SACHEM SPEED (no major league R1 Champs)
13. RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAGS #6)
14. NJCSA GALAXY (EDP #4)
15. PIPELINE BLACK (EDP #5)
16. PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (NE NPL #5)
17. HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAGS #5)
18. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (EDP #8)
19. CREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH BLACK
20. FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01 (VA NPL #2)
21. WORLD CLASS FC '01 HAMM NPL

Anonymous said...

NYSC over World Class?

uhhhh.............no.

Dragons way too high.

Anonymous said...

11:49 since we are the only 2 yahoos that like this stuff and take it for what it's worth -a little fun with no harm intended.

Looks okay.

If Jefferson cup keeps things like in the past top flight will be 8 teams? I like the 4 divisions of 3 teams for 4 game max and 4 divisions of 4 for a 5 game max.

Anonymous said...

12:06 take the last top 8, who would your replace with who? only if you are a yahoo like the two of us that posted a list.

Anonymous said...

"NYSC over World Class?

uhhhh.............no.

Dragons way too high."

I'll defer to you on both of these. NYSC and Dragons are the only two teams in the top 10 that I have not seen.

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

4 X 2 gives a truer champion

In a 4 X 3 a team could be eliminated with a win and a well played tie, due to a silly tie break.

Win 2-0
Tie 0-0

Other team wins 3-0 vs team you beat by 2 goals

You are OUT!

Anonymous said...

12:09 here - I think Ajax should be ahead of NYSC a 6-0 beat down can not go unnoticed.

Not sure which of the 21 teams that are under Dragons should be higher. I don't think there is a big one or maybe I'm missing it

Anonymous said...

I believe last tournamnent crush entered they were in 3rd bracket and still no results.

Anonymous said...

12:11 yeah and it gives us yahoos more to talk about about - in regards to who was left out and who was included.

Anonymous said...

Some people just don’t understand youth soccer, and how results in August are completely irrelevant to any serious discussion about the quality of play, and the training a particular team is receiving. Or they have an agenda, either profession, or parental.

Personally, I find it rewarding that people are discussing my daughters team, good, bad or indifferent, it means her team is known, which in-turn will lead to attention at the older age groups.

As far as rankings go, they are hilarious, and without merit, but its fun to discuss.

Anonymous said...

11:38 then you and wildcats coach are in complete agreeement as almost all we do in training is work on 1 and 2 touch combination play and movement off the ball as well as checking to the ball, laying off and off the ball runs and speed of play, along with crossing and finishing.
It takes players a while playing together to master these skills and implement them together in game situations and cats had some turnover the first year with new coach at U12 to get the right pieces in place.What's more Cats played many of the top teams at U12 last year with only 11 or 12 players available due to turnover and injuries.Kind of hard to play a movement and possession game when most of your players to not get a blow all game.
Now with continuity and finally some quality depth(now 15 players on roster for first time and all who signed on in fall have stayed for spring) and many are interchangeable I think you will see marked improvement in possession play as players will not be asked to play so many minutes(3 middies played entire 70 minutes with no rest in 2-0 win over PDA Storm last april).
Also a bonus moving forward is the parents who were fighting with refs, engaging and arguing with the opposing teams parents and coaching from sidelines have all moved on at U13 so the chemistry is much better and the parents and players are all united. we look forward to continued improvement this spring.

Anonymous said...

12:36 of course they are hilarious that's what they should be used for -FUN. I agree 100%

I'll take it one step further besides having fun with the results - they mean nothing at u13 or any age unless you are playing in an international, pro, semi-pro, college game.

I understand that - but I am guilty of talking results on this board and take them for what they are worth team A beat team B on said date with the players that played but it's so much more fun when we generalize.

yes big time idiot here - I know it

Anonymous said...

Meant to say you always want to play quickly from back but playing to feet is a must

Anonymous said...

oh good, have been holding my breath....please stop apologizing, your embarrassing yourself and the team ; /

Anonymous said...

I don't think what the wildcats have accomplished over the last year is anything to be embarrassed about.
You should be embarrassed by your continued hatred and bitterness.
could it be you were so sure the cats would fold or at least take a step back when you guys left after the spring and when it turned out they didn't miss a beat and in fact "improved" and are also much happier without your diffusive presence and continued negativity that it has been very hard for you to swallow.
Isn't it strange that no one has mentioned your team for months on this blog and you still have to come on and try and disparage your old team? Actually to be accurate we should add one of your "many" former teams.
We have nothing to "apologize" for.
When your new team has a comparable resume then come back and we can talk.

Anonymous said...

Don't feel bad wildcats, they said the same thing about Ajax when they left our team before leaving wildcats.
Funny ins't how both teams are just fine without them.

Anonymous said...

"Also a bonus moving forward is the parents who were fighting with refs, engaging and arguing with the opposing teams parents and coaching from sidelines have all moved on at U13 so the chemistry is much better and the parents and players are all united. we look forward to continued improvement this spring."

Agreed. I've only seen them play once, but the parents were fine on the sideline.

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

The more these disgruntled ex-parents attack your team, the happier you should be that they have moved on.
Having played both ajax and wildcats a number of times I can vouch for the fact that both sidelines are much quieter and better behaved without those maniacs.

Anonymous said...

I am not a disgruntled parent and do think you are just not being honest. ALL have said that it is a good athletic group of girls. Just do not agree with the coaching to win at all cost as a way that will get you near the ECNL groups next year. It has been proven that it just gets you to a certain level. Not a bad level but not the top level. Which again, is not a bad thing. There is not much form on the field for that team. Heavily stacked in back and through ball to a fast forward is really the entire thing. The ECNL groups will move to a different level due to combined talent AND proper soccer coaching. Already starting as we speak.... They will move the ball much better which will pay off down the road. Just a disagreement in coaching styles I guess.....

Anonymous said...

I have only sen the wildcats play once. The parents near me were coaching and yelling at their kids and teammates the whole game. Although, there were a lot of teams my daughters team played this year where that is true.
I would say it is true for my daughters team sometimes too. Parents will coach from the sideline. a fact.

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Anonymous said...

2:16 since you are not with our team you should just concentrate on coaching your own group and let's see what transpires.
Since when can you predict the future? What is your expertise and what have you accomplished that you can tell which teams players will move on to success at the next level and which won't or which teams will win at U14 and which won't?
Maybe you will be proved right and maybe you won't, only time will tell.
the difference is our coach has done this process successfully before with a number of other teams and players, so your prediction that his players will not develop based on history is without merit. If we want to go by past performance and coaches/ trainers resume's then the opposite is true.
So many players have reached success at D1 College Level under his training and coaching over the last 20 plus years that your prediction is without baseless based on the facts.
hey but that doesn't stop you from spouting anything you wish on this anonymous blog.
Anyone can make predictions, that doesn't make it so.

Anonymous said...

Again, why so defensive? Just a matter of opinion. That coach has nothing on the number of kids that other programs have sent off to school. And just do not think he has much to do with it. The kids athleticism has more to do with it. We will see. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

The reason they are attacking you is they fear you.
When they stop then that means you are no longer a threat to them.
The main goal for the ECNL Clubs is to keep any outsiders down so they can be the only game in town.
then they can impose their prices, rules, roster sizes,travel time and distance to club and training/games,etc. on the players and their families with impunity.
The idea that anyone can build a comparable team from outside their umbrella is anathema to them and they will attack you at all costs.
Just keep doing what you are doing as it benefits all of us in the youth soccer community to have options.

Anonymous said...

You are like that person who yells at the top of their lungs during an argument. Proven history of ECNL level jumping WAY above everyone else come U14. Proven.... You pay the same as any of the academies, if not more with all the tournaments. Again, just disagree with the coaching part of it and if you are one of the few girls that can jump to the academies, why wouldn't you? Or will you????

Anonymous said...

I would have to agree. The kids deserve the credit, not the coach. They are a scrappy bunch.

Anonymous said...

2:39 but if you are so sure yours is the only way to go, then why the need to attack this team is their recent rise is not a threat to your program.
why waste your time and energy trying to convince others that they will no longer be strong at u13, now U14, next year at u14 if they are still competing well vs top teams then you will be claiming they will fall by U16.
Fact is this coaches previous high level teams, also built outside of top 2 nj clubs, continued to compete vs the very best in the region all the way until the girls went on to college after U18 year, and most of the players stayed with the team and got very good college deals and most had very good college careers.
as far as ECNL being only way to go that has never been true and things continue to change all the time in youth soccer.
In 3 or 4 years their may no longer even be an ecnl if we really want to go by the history of youth soccer in this country.
there has been one constant though, if you develop into a good enough player to succeed in college, then you will be recruited, inside or outside of ecnl.

Anonymous said...

We will see in a few months I think.
If the wildcats top players stay then that means they are satisfied with the development, training and trajectory of their team.
If they go to try out for the new ECNL Teams forming for U14 then they are not.
By april/may we will know the score.
Everything else is just talk until then.

Anonymous said...

2:43 How hard a team plays , how "scrappy" they are, is ALWAYS a reflection on the coaching/training.
One of the most important qualities of ANY coach is how hard does his team play.
Always has been the case, always will be.

Anonymous said...

Scrappy without skill is crappy

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately it is at a point that these girls will not make an ECNl team.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats in fact have some of the most "skilled" players in NJ on their team.

Anonymous said...

I have seen them play a few times, and they have a nice mix of finesse players and hard nosed ball winners/tacklers/headers.
You will find the same on most high level teams.
You need a balance of both to make a complete team.

Anonymous said...

Are we really rehashing this all over again...and again? It has been beaten to death. Wildcats have a nice team. They do what they do in their style. They will win some, they will lose some and they will tie many. It is getting old already. Nothing else to talk about? Do that many people really care about their team or is it just their followers that play both sides in an attempt to keep them in the discussion

Anonymous said...

Wildcat coach posts most of the comments out here to keep his team relevant.

Anonymous said...

The team is not a skilled team. they have one player that might make an ecnl team. I don't expect anyone on that time to go anywhere.

In the style that they play, they are perfect for the coaches system.

They would not make the Match fit ECNL team nor the PDA team. If you have to play on Wildcats or Ajax. I would choose wildcats. Coach cares more.

Anonymous said...

rubbish

and trust me 0 I am no PDA backer

but Ajax coach is a keeper

Anonymous said...

I don't think the attacks on their team are coming from within their own camp.
Either ex-parents who are bitter or other teams parents or coaches.

Anonymous said...

Both ajax and wildcats are well coached, well organized teams.

Anonymous said...

Ajax plays a cleaner style of soccer. Not as many "athletes" as Wildcats but to say they do not play prettier soccer is just wrong. That to me is training and coaching that kind of soccer.....

Anonymous said...

Please do report back in the fall on defections to ËCNL ELITE clubs from the (supposedly) much less talented groups

Seems they take some on from these depths each season, doesnt it.

To say that a top ranked team in the state has no player worthy is just donkey dirt.

Anonymous said...

Amazing that a team without 1 player who could make the ecnl, team could still beat the ecnl team.

Anonymous said...

Yo coach you have bigger stones than I thought. Every time somebody offers up an opinion about your team that you don't like you go bananas and start bashing ex parents and such. Then you write a hundred posts about being attacked and what not. Like only some pissed off parent could possibly comment on your team, right? Nobody in their right mind or without an agenda could possibly say something that you don't like, right? Save the rhetoric for your own current parents. Stop with the tired ex parents routine and come up with a new schtick.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Amazing that a team without 1 player who could make the ecnl, team could still beat the ecnl team.

Anonymous said...

7:50 we can all do without naming individuals on an anonymous blog.
Try taking your own advice.

Anonymous said...

7:54.

Please make sure you tell the Ecnl coaches that one as she is trying out.

Too funny!

Anonymous said...

I think cat coach posts comments about his team(posing as a bitter hater)just so he can respond to his own post with 5 or so self promoting stories about his team.

Anonymous said...

8:40 nice try but I don't think anyone is falling for that one.

Anonymous said...

Can we all be adults and civilized on this board?. I come on here to learn about what is going on in the soccer world, but what I find is a bunch people always bashing and hating...so pathetic. Move on and let's talk about soccer and give some good advice. Otherwise this board is not worth a penny unless you love drama!!! Get real people and grow up!

Anonymous said...

NPL - EDP
3/22/2015 - 5/17/2015
Girls U13

North Division looks to be a close race to the 1 game playoff if the league follows the same format as last year to crown a champion.
Nj Stallions are affiliated with NJCSA who have 3 teams at u13 while the Stallions do not have one. I'm curious to see if the stallions use their u12 team or take either Manalapan or the Galaxy. Outside of that question mark in the North, TSF should be the early season favorite based on a better GS rank,but in reality this flight is wide open

105, NJ#9 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)
149, NY#12 SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)
151, NY#13 ALLEYCATS U13 GIRLS ELITE (NYE)
161, NJ#16 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)

NJ Stallions 13G (NJ)

South Division looks like it will the NJ Wildcats as the early season favorites, while it looks like LVU has a shot as they played the wildcats to a close 2-0 game coming up empty in EDP play this fall. SJB and MD Rush look like they might be a little over matched. The big question mark here is what NJCSA does along with NJ Rush as they both have 2 teams

#11, NJ#2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
99, PAE#8 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
242, NJ#24 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)
#353, MD#10 MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G (MD)

NJCSA 13G (NJ)
NJ RUSH 13G (NJ)

Possible teams playing in EDL NPL and some might be players in the hunt for INDIANA

53, NJ#5 NJCSA GALAXY
115, NJ#10 MANALAPAN NJCSA ELITE

118, NJ#12 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE
174, NJ#18 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREY

Jersey United also does not have a team in this age group. I am very curious to see what happens here as well, will they affiliate and take over a team or will they have a good turn out and form a new team at tryouts.

Anonymous said...

8:33

What advice do you need? No shortage of experts here

heh

Anonymous said...

re: EDL

Total joke to play 5 games and qualify for Nationals

Anonymous said...

Agreed, its a disgrace, NPL should follow the NYCSL format, all games matter, points accumilate over both the fall and spring season, and no playoff, unless there is an actual tie.

Anonymous said...

Totally think it is Wildcats coach doing all the banter. Who else cares that much???!!!
EDL such a joke. Play 1-2 tough games and then you advance. All about saying you got to nationals I guess.....

Anonymous said...

This is easily fixed for 2015 - just dont hand out the bid to EDL winner

I think it deserves a letter. Iĺl let you know if I get a response

Anonymous said...

11:02

I like that, so much a straight through season with a balanced home/away schedule is the best the only way to crown a true champion. Every game counts the same, you don't have the luxery of a playoff to save you if you don't finish in first.

They should come up with a Atlantic Coast Champions NPL

For example at u13 the NYCSL NPL, EDL NPL, New England NPL, NortheastNPL & Virginia NPL send thier champions to the NPL Finals in addition to that the top 2 teams qualify for a new NPL that will have these 10 teams playing 9 games in addition to their regular NPL schedule at u14 to send their champion or next team in the standings if their champion has qualifed via original NPL to the NPL finals.

The new NPL will have different teams every year possibly, for u14 it would have the below teams (just a lit of 10 yeams) playing each other for a birth to the NPL Finals at u14 and eliminate the need for playing 3 tournaments (9 games) to get quality games.

NYSC
STA
NJ Wildcats
TSF
NEFC
Oakwood
PDA North
MatchFit NPL
PWSI
FC Virginia

Anonymous said...

The above makes too much sense.... Would be great and the right way to do it.

Anonymous said...

Below are the number of league games each NPL plays in the current season.

22 Northeast Girls NPL
18 Virginia NPL
14 New York Club Soccer League - NPL Division
14 New England Premier League
12 Washington State Premier League
10 Oregon Premier League - NPL Division
9 South Central Premier League
8 Northwest Champions League
7 Florida Premier League
7 Gulf States Premier League
5 South Atlantic Premier League
4 Midwest Developmental League

No Schedules Updated:
Eastern Development Program - NPL Division
Mountain Developmental League
Southern California NPL

Anonymous said...

11:14, Thanks, good info, and lots to ponder. I know our club is putting a priority on winning NPL. There is no better advertisement for the club (or the team) than competing at NPL Nationals. In my opinion, all the tournaments we will play this spring will be warm-ups for that. Its simply a much better gauge of type of competition we will encounter, if we are fortunate enough to represent our league in July.



Anonymous said...

Sorry, 11:41 ; /

Anonymous said...

I agree.

I wish the NCS was an open event also like the US Lamar Hunt Open Cup.

You can only participate in this event if your team plays in a league that uses player passes from 1 of the 55 member associations. This excludes all the US Club teams, so US Club made their own State Cup in a few states. Have on state cup open to all teams and leave the politics out of it.

Anonymous said...

In doing my research the only PDA/MF Pre-ECNL and NPL teams could have played in NCS would have been to play in JAGS or EDP under the CJYSA umbrella. They all played around 18 games this fall. I think it would have been to much to play another 8 games just so they can participate in the NCS which could add up to another 5 to 6 games in NJ State Cup (additional 13 games). So for PDA and MF they would have to play some where around 30 games just in the fall - way to much. But that's just my opinion

Anonymous said...

2:07 so if you are correct then they will certainly put themselves on the line to play us club state cup this spring as they are already eligible and would not need to play any additional qualifying games.
If they don't enter this spring's US club state cup then your argument holds no water and they are clearly avoiding the in state competition.

Anonymous said...

I agree, they are obviously trying to avoid FC CRUSH.

Anonymous said...

Nobody cares why a team doesnt play ¨fall cup¨ or ¨spring cup¨. Play or dont. Just keep your comments in check if you are not in the competition.

Anonymous said...

There are no teams that "avoid" the state cup so they won't play NJ competition. Clubs have other reasons, right or wrong.

Anonymous said...

and of course the Wildcats.

2;17

you say avoid. I think they have moved on from competition.

it will be up to each coach to determine if they want to do state cup.
As these teams become more skillful, they have no desire to play less technical teams that try to even the playing field by being over the line physicality.

A lot of these clubs try to earn their bones by demonstrating how well they can do against these top clubs. Some of these teams will play so hopped up with physicality that these games can get out of hand quickly, they quickly become a game about might rather than skill.

Why would any ecnl coach in their right mind risk their assets against teams looking to prove themselves anyway they can. if there is a great team that emerges from non ecnl club,This team will be invited to many friendlies and scrimmages throughout the years and will enjoy a healthy competitive rivalry with these clubs.

You always need to follow the money.

ECNL bread and butter is outside of State cup.

All who are not part of ECNL team, which can include NPL teams, will actively participate in
State cup as a state championship is something to leverage from a business perspective.

I hear Matchfit/ ECNL( They had conflict last year) may participate this year, not confirmed but I would think if so, this would be their last year in the event.


PDA ECNL would probably not do it again but always up to the coach

Anonymous said...

"...they have no desire to play less technical teams that try to even the playing field by being over the line physicality."

Before folks start jumping in with all the Wildcat comments, let me just say that Wildcats are emphatically NOT a physical team.

Athletic? Yes. Physical? No.

Keeping in mind that I do not wish to imply that "physical" means "dirty", here is my ranking of physical teams I have seen this fall:

1. PWSI
2. Penn Legacy
3. World Class
4. East Meadow
5. Penn Fusion

Anonymous said...

Agreed on PWSI, EM and WC, not sure about the Penn teams, but if they are anything like YMS guess they are hacks too, oh and EM are a bunch of divers, I saw it firsthand at FC Stars.

Anonymous said...

Forgot about YMS...

1. PWSI
2. Penn Legacy
3. YMS
4. World Class
5. East Meadow
6. Penn Fusion

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I should have said I would love to see that, why teams play or don't play is none of my business.

I just think it would be nice to play for a state cup open to all teams regardless of pass and then represent your state if you win it all at a Regional followed by national event in addition to winning your league and representing your league at a National event or qualifying for a national event via league results. To me that would be special - but that's just me.

Anonymous said...

only was answering 2:07 who claimed the only reason ecnl clubs teams did not enter fall state cup was due to not wanting to add more games that would be necessary to qualify.
if that is true then that excuse does not exist for them this spring in us club state cup.
If they just don't want to put themselves on the line to play the other strong teams in their own state for any other reason then fine, just don't use the "not eligible" excuse.
ndn please stop with the "these teams are dirty" and might hurt our players baloney.
That is just not true and is very weak.

Anonymous said...

i didn't mean wildcats

Wildcats may emerge as one of those special teams that scrimmage the ECNL teams all the time.

It just a business thing and a protecting of assets.

Anonymous said...

2:57 I get your post - but that's what makes a tournament like the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup so special, you can have a PDL team play an MLS team a once in a lifetime thing for most of the players on the PDL team, will they be juiced sure do the MLS players have more to lose, sure - but it's a great concept,give the little guys a shot, it's up to the big guys as far as who plays for them against the little guys.

Again that's just me, my roots are from europe and you played your league to qualify for UEFA tournaments and you played the country cup.

Uefa had

Champions Cup - only champions played
uefa cup - other than champions
cup winners cup - cup champions

Then money ruled UEFA - and comments like Man U can play the champion of Latvia who would pay to see that - so they changed to current world champions league and stuff like that.

I get it. Why ECNL teams don't play state cups.

Just wanted to say I wish they did, not just ecnl team but all teams starting with rec teams vs town teams to qualify for the next stage. Then have those winners play the 2nd tier academies - then have those winners play the top non-ecnl and ecnl teams all for free.

Anonymous said...

Parents and players get so hooped up, when they can't keep up technically they resort to playing an over the line physical game that puts the assets of these clubs in needless peril.

When and if your daughter joins an ECNLl team, you will see this first hand. It is everything to these clubs to beat an ECNL team. They will cross over the line as often as the ref lets them.

I have seen an ecnl team beat a very physical team 5-0 and the coach of that ecnl team vow never to play that team again because of the danger that their players were in during the game.

Do you think the ecnl team was afraid to play that team again because they are afraid to get beaten?





Anonymous said...

Thank You Jefferson Cup for your list as you promised.

Girls U13
Club Team State
CFC Arsenal Sky Connecticut
EUSA Empire Revolution Rochester 01/02 (U13) New York West
NJ Crush FC Tsunami New Jersey
Richmond United U13 Pre ECNL Virginia
Tri-State FA Elite 01 Ohio South
YMS Banshees Pennsylvania East
CASL 01 Red Ladies North Carolina
CASL CASL Juniors Ladies North Carolina
1776 United Xtremes Pennsylvania East
Arlington SA Samba Red Virginia
Atlantic United Academy - Avalanche New Jersey
Atletico FC Atletico FC Girls '01 New York East
Aztec Soccer 01 Black Massachusetts
Beach FC 01G Red Virginia
Bethesda SC Academy 01 Blue Maryland
BRYC 01 Elite Virginia
Carolina Rapids 01 Burugndy North Carolina
Century V United 01-02 South Girls Elite Pennsylvania West
CES Calvert CREW White Maryland
Charlotte SA Predator 01G North Carolina
Cincinnati United Soccer Club CUP Gold Ohio South
Cleveland FC '01-'02 Royal Ohio North
Continental FC Delco ECNL '01 Pennsylvania East
CYA Cougars 01 Virginia
DC Stoddert Blue Metros 01 Virginia
Discoveries Soccer Club DSC 01 Lady Green South Carolina
FC Carolina Alliance Green North Carolina
FC Frederick FC Frederick '01 Maryland
FC Milan 1 Virginia
FC United U13G Academy Illinois
FC Virginia FC Virginia United '01 Virginia
FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01 Virginia
Gol Soccer Academy GSA 02 Pre-ECNL Georgia
Grand Rapids Crew Juniors 02 Premier Gold Michigan
Harford FC United Thunder Maryland
HBC Spark New York East
HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT Pennsylvania East
Lake Norman SC 01 Eclipse Blue North Carolina
Loudoun 01 G Red Virginia
Manhattan SC G01 Pride New York East
Maryland United FC 01 ECNL Maryland
McLean YS U13 PRE-ECNL Virginia
Michigan Burn 02 Black Michigan
New York SC G01 New York East
NJ Wildcats Averbuch New Jersey
NJCSA Elite New Jersey
NJSA 04 GALAXY New Jersey
NVSC Jr. Majestics 01 Virginia
OBGC Freedom Blue Maryland
OP Fire OP Fire Girls U-13 Red Ohio North
PA Crew Academy Blue Pennsylvania West
PDA Ajax New Jersey
PDA Dragons New Jersey
PDA Shore Fusion New Jersey
Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL Pennsylvania East
Penn Legacy FC 01 Black Pennsylvania East
PHWM SC Pumas Maryland
Pipeline SC Black Maryland
PWSI Courage 01G Red Virginia
Rage SC '01 Athletica Pennsylvania East
Richmond Kickers YSC U13 G Elite 1415 Virginia
Richmond Strikers Elite Orange Virginia
STA Morris United NPL 01 New Jersey
Storm Soccer Academy SSA 01 Girls Black South Carolina
Tidewater Sharks Tidewater Sharks U13G Virginia
Triangle FC 01 Alliance North Carolina
TSF Academy 01/02G New Jersey
UFA 02 Premier Georgia
Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Black Pennsylvania East
Vienna YS Pride '01 Red Virginia
VIrginia Rush GU13 Elite Virginia
Weston FC 01 Premier Black Florida
World Class FC '01 Charlton

Anonymous said...

Which team was described as dirty? Physical is not dirty.

Anonymous said...

If they have the following flights
That would be 72 teams divided by 6
would give us 12 teams per flight.

Championship
Elite
Superior
Platinum
Classic
Premier

Anonymous said...

3:48 no in that particular case.

Anonymous said...

3;55


A physical team will always resort to more physicality when they can't keep up with a technical team. They will do anything to level the playing field.

A pretty good indication of a physical team that is crossing over the line can be measured by the number a times a good referee blows the whistle. You will see a good physical team cross the line by raising their hands to push the players. They start to attack the player first before the ball on a 50/50, they will also go through the player to get to the ball.
Lots of players on the ground. lots of pushing and shoving.

Anonymous said...

I will give you a perfect example of that, this past season we played a team from LI, and they were very chippy, but we had a responsible official who called them on it. The foul ratio was 18-2, but it did not help them, after scoring first, on one if these rough plays, they lost the game 3-1. because we kept our cool, and wore them down with combination passes, and a quick counter-attack.

Anonymous said...

Alrighty, lets get this party started. Who should be in the top Flight at JeffCup? Can someone create the same list, but add national rankings as the basis?

Anonymous said...

I will put a list ranked just by GS and then we can have fun from there.

Anonymous said...

BRYC
FC Virginia
STA
Cincinatti Cup Gold
World Class
CASL (NC)
Wildcats
Calvert Crew

Anonymous said...

World Class? Hahaha, the dirty, I mean physical team?

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure who the earlier poster was talking about but I would nominate Greater Binghamton as physical AND dirty.

Anonymous said...

Good one. Yes. GB is very physical.

Anonymous said...

Need to look at the list a little more but the below sticks out

Remove
STA
World Class

Add
Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01

Anonymous said...


STA
The below tells me they are not ready for tier

ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE) 0-1
ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ) 1-0
MANHATTAN SC MANHATTAN SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE) 0-3
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE) 1-1
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) 1-1
ISA INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMY NPL-01 (NYE) 1-0


World Class
Some not so good results
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 2-3
Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-0
Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-6
Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-0
FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3-2

Anonymous said...

Remove top team in NJ and in NYE?

I dont think so.

Anonymous said...

I am fine with Penn Legacy in for Wildcats

Anonymous said...

STA gave up 3 goals in the 5 games you say were weak

I guess you are just impressed by goal scorers

(Manhattan game needs to be discounted)

Anonymous said...

remove yourself from STA and look at it from my eyes

Albertson, Atlantci, LVU, Harford & ISA are not TOP FLIGHT teams and you are telling me I should say that a 4-3 GD +1 is worthy of TOP flight?

Also what do you think about forfeiting a game? That's a top team's quality? Do you think Jefferson Cup will just not count it or hold that against STA?

Same for WC, CFC Delco, FC Bucks, Albertson and yes STA are nottop tier teams so how should any one view 7-5 GD +2. You are telling me this is worthy of Top tier.

Don't speak with your heart - look at it as an outsider.

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats are a top tier team. First in league play (EDP) and NJ NCS State Champ in addition to playing top tier flights in other majors and holding their own. PennLegacy didn't even win their PAGS regular season it took a playoff.

Your friendly neighborhood shill

Anonymous said...

P.a. Classics "the team that won PAGS during reg season" didn't play Penn Legacy or YMS during "regular season".

Anonymous said...

If we go with 12 teams per tier here are my teams below.

STA #5 National #1 NJ
Calvert Crew #6 #1 MD
FC VA ECNL #7 #1 VA
World Class #8 #1 NYE
Wildcats #11 #2 NJ
Penn Legacy #22 #1 PAE
BRYC #29 #2 VA
PDA AJAX #31 #4 NJ
Rage #37 #2 PAE
Cincy United #41 #2 OS
Penn Fusion #66 #4 PAE
CASL #132 #1 NC

Not perfect I know

Anonymous said...

Can’t we all just get along??

Anonymous said...

What do you guys think of this?

Is it better to play in the second flight of Jeff Cup, and have a better chance of winning, or in the first flight, where the chances of winning are less, but the rewards are greater?

I would take the first flight, better competition, even if we don’t win, the girls will be tested.

Anonymous said...

Yes, at U13 you need to start establishing yourself as a consistent top flight team in these tournaments.
Then your team will be top flighted in 2 years when it matters.

Anonymous said...

7:59 This is why I don't like an unbalanced schedule. However that's how the league set up their regular season and they didn't win it. They both played 1776 and PA classics got the 3 while PennLegacy only got 1 point the loss to YMS did PennLegacy in though.

8:24 then it would be a perfect world and we all would agree with everything. So much more fun treating our kid's team like a pro team well to me it is (yes I know they are 13 and most won't be playing in a few years going by the stats).

8:01 I don't like PDA Ajax and Rage in top flight. Curious why Ajax over dragons when they play in the same league and Ajax came in 3rd and Dragons in first?
also PA Classics beat Rage 5-1 and Rage also lost to YMS and Ukranians not top tier teams

I think the following teams need a good look

TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01

UNITED FA UFA 02 PREMIER(beat CASL and beat SouthShore 6-2)

PennFusion ECNL finished ahead of WC in pre-ECNL league

PDA Dragons if picking putting 1 PDA team in top flight. Since August (u13) Dragons beat Ajax head 2 head and won the league they both played in.

I already said how I feel about STA and WC.

Calvert beat up on EDP teams if you look at them out side of EDP (Disney & Spirit) W1, T2, L3, GD -3 plus a loss to Pipeline can not keep this team in the top flight.

Good stuff -I give these Tournament people some cred not easy -they will get some things wrong and that's okay.

Anonymous said...

8:28 I agree -

I think doing well in Championship will go along way but winning the Elite will also help a team out the next time

Anonymous said...

8:28 - I feel playing the best comp out there and losing is better then beating lesser comp.If the girls play better comp and lose then they will know they have to get better.

Top flight better then 2nd

Anonymous said...

8:28 here, yeah I am torn about it, not sure what I would prefer. If I ask you know who, she will say that she wants to win, even if its not the top flight, just something to feel good about. After all, you wants to drive 8 hours each way for a big fat, we’ll get them next time speech on the way back???

Anonymous said...

most of the girls, if not all, want to win every game they play. Although they also have to realize that they will not. No matter who you are, you just do not win every game you play. Soccer is a team sport, your daughter could play the best she ever has but the rest of the team doesnt so you lose.
I also feel it is good to lose sometimes so the next time you play that team you have something to play for.

Anonymous said...

Sorry I disagree with you guys a Tournament like Jefferson goes deep you will get good comp which ever flight you are in. There are at least 20 teams you can make the argument for

STA
Calvert Crew
FC VA ECNL
World Class
Wildcats
Penn Legacy
BRYC
PDA AJAX
Rage
Cincy United
Penn Fusion
CASL

going off of your list the below teams need to be included as they had good results against the teams on your list and I can make an argument for them

TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01
UNITED FA UFA 02 PREMIER
PDA Dragons
1776 United Xtremes
Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
New York SC G01
Grand Rapids Crew Juniors 02 Premier Gold
CFC Arsenal Sky

Add these teams to your list then give them a good look and come up with 8 followed by an additional 4.

I know some of you guys don't enjoy this and I am sorry but it's fun.

Anonymous said...

10:54, I totally agree, 2nd or even 3rd flight at Jeff Cup will provide great competition for your daughter, and her team. We don't care where they place us, although top flight would be nice, as long as the girls play well, and ready themselves for their NPL season. Nationals are the tournament we are targeting, and it begins at Jeff Cup.

Anonymous said...

When will flights be posted?

Anonymous said...

To be honest, I really don't want the girls to play teams that they have already played, or might play, or will play in the spring. I want them to play teams from other states like Michigan, South Carolina and Florida. It makes the games far more exciting, and isn’t that the reason for all this?

Anonymous said...

Agree. I have seen teams pull out in the past because they were playing the same teams from NJ or PA.

Anonymous said...

1:27 & 1:29

I agree with both. I dont want to drive 4 to 5 hrs and spend all that money to play teams that are less then 1 hr from us. That makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

probably 6-7 hours

Anonymous said...

6 or 7 hours is on the light side

Anonymous said...

then fly

Anonymous said...

Yes. Take the crush copter to lose every game like every other year.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats have proven not to be ready for top bracket in good tournaments. They stack the box and play for the tie.

1 win in 10 games. They play tough, but can't win in these tougher groups. Anybody can play not too lose by much.

Anonymous said...

So much for it being the wildcats causing trouble.
Please give your obsession a rest.

Anonymous said...

4:49.... WOW!!!!! what a loser

Anonymous said...

Does FC Crush really have a helicopter, how can they afford that, is it a new one?

Anonymous said...

Probably, and if so they can afford it because they sure don't spend anything on fields, haven't you played against them on the dirt field? It was not enjoyable.

Anonymous said...

Now that you mention it, we did play them on a crap field, why would that happen? Does Crush not have access to any turf fields in NJ?

Anonymous said...

LOL

Sign of the times - teams that crave turf

Anonymous said...

No, I prefer grass, not dirt, rocks and holes. Really bad.

Anonymous said...

5:23- Exactly right, Wildcats only played 9 tournament games and they won 1. Get your facts straight 4:49.

Anonymous said...

How many have they lost?

Anonymous said...

PA person always positive towards Penn Legacy. Obvious part of this team.

Yes Penn Legacy a nice team, not a great team. You beat Penn Fusion, Penn Fusion better team, will become stronger over years

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup
PDA Dragons
PDA Ajax
PDA Shore
Where's PDA Storm?

Anonymous said...

I am a little tired of the Penn Legacy cheerleader as well. Will see how they do in the spring. But how do you say Penn Fusion will be better over the next couple of years? Does Penn Fusion have the same "pull" as say PDA does to constantly bring in better players?

Anonymous said...

How many ECNL teams are in Jeff Cup outside of the VA teams?

Anonymous said...

8:29

Actually I think the " PA person" you are referring to is from Penn Fusion. When your team is as good as they(PF) are and you watch another team (PL) take them apart, you tend to respect them.

Anonymous said...

You be the judge of NJ Wildcat tournament record.
W1, T6, L2, GD -3

2014 Spirit United Kickoff Classic - Girls Weekend
8/23/2014 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) 1-1
8/23/2014 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE) 1-1
8/24/2014 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 1-3

2014 WAGS Tournament Presented by the NSCAA
10/11/2014 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) 0-0
10/11/2014 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL) 1-1
10/12/2014 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 0-0

Generation Adidas Bethesda Tournament-Girls
11/15/2014 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 1-2
11/15/2014 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 0-0
11/16/2014 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD) 1-0

Anonymous said...

Again, it is about how you play yhe game now to get to the next level. If you are obsessed with your ranking you play not to lose. But unfortunately if that is your style it keeps bodies back to prevent goals against, that means you do not have enough up front to develop legit scoring chances. All you really have is a long through ball. Many teams do this at this age because they feel the girls like being ranked. Coaches like it so they can sell that ranking. So do you give up those developmental chances at scoring just to prevent being scored on..... Short sighted I believe.

Anonymous said...

You're making a fool of yourself. Please stop!

Anonymous said...

The ex wildcat guy is the most obsessed person I have ever seen in the sport - go away u loser.

Anonymous said...

I have never seen the Wildcats play but their record is both impressive and puzzling. They don't give up many goals and appear to be in every game against good teams. From the outside I would venture to say that they must have very good backs, good mid fielders but weak forwards. If not, then they must play a style of play designed to keep games close and not lose. Am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

10:05, that sums it up pretty well, they are tough team that doesn’t let the opponent out-muscle them on the 50/50 ball, so what you have is a game played mostly from the top of each box. Its a back-and-forth version of soccer, which means competitive, physical, and boring as hell.

Anonymous said...

8:29

Oh please do enlighten us on who the "great" teams are then!

Anonymous said...

its a style of soccer that have been played by many teams at this age group before the wildcats ever played it.

the North Rockland rowdies from New York was the last team to be successful in this style of Play.

They are now u15 and the team has gone from a regional powerhouse to a more mid level team a lot of the better players have already jumped ship. History repeats itself time and time again. But all parents of these type of teams think that their team will be different History always repeats itself,

Anonymous said...

10:11 and 10:22 summed it all up. History repeats itself all the time with this..... Is what it is....
Now let's move on.

Anonymous said...

10:22 question is if you are so sure of your predictions based on "history will repeat itself", "this is what happened to this strong team or that strong team". why the need to constantly repeat your mantra.
Why wold anyone who is with a team they are so sure will soon surpass or has already surpasses Wildcats spend so much of their life and valuable time on this bog trying to convince everyone wildcats will soon fall from elite level.
I try to take into consideration your limited intelligence and demonstrated lack of soccer knowledge and experience, plus your clear handicap of such a limited vocabulary, which causes you come across as ridiculously redundant, but every time Wildcats team is not being discussed on the blog for a couple of days, you feel the obsessive need to bring up your same tired predictions.
Now it seems you are trying to induce wildcats players to move on?
Just recently you claimed that there are no players on their team capable or "skilled" enough to make an ECNL Team. Now you seem to be suggesting we need to "jump ship".
Please stop, we are very happy with our situation and would certainly not run to any team you are a part of. If your dysfunctional personality is indicative of what exists among parents and coaches of the ECNL Clubs than you are welcome to it my man.
get yourself some help before it's too late.

Anonymous said...

10:05 if your team ever gets to play in a top flight of one of these elite tournaments like those listed above, or even if you go on their website and look at the complete results for these top flights, what you will see is almost ALL the scores of all the games in these flights are 0-0, 1-0, 1-1, 2-1, just like wildcats results listed.
for example FC Virginia won the wildcats bracket at WAGS Cup with 2 ties both 0-0 and a 2-1 win, then went to the finals.
1 win 2 ties, 2 goals scored and 1 goal allowed and they won the bracket and went on to the finals.
Since WAGS, that FC Virginia team has gone on to win the top flights at both the Bethesda Tournament and the Disney tournament. I don't think you would knock them as not belonging in top flights.
Penn Legacy won wildcats bracket and made semifinals at spirit tourney you listed after 2 ties in their preliminary games then survived shootout wins over calvert and wildcats to advance.
For anyone who has been there they know that ties and low scoring games are the NORM at the top flights of these elite events. Goals are hard to come by against nationally ranked, very organized teams at any age.
That is one of the ways

Anonymous said...

(Continued from above)you continue to be chosen for these top flights. Watch what happens to the teams who were flighted highly previously and then blown out 4 or 5 to 0 in games at these events.
Out of state teams complain and won't come back to that event if they have those experiences.
Everyone wants to play close games vs teams that are difficult to beat when they travel great distances to events.

Anonymous said...

Didnt Match Fit shine while not being part of ECNL for years?

Look at Beat, Colchesters, United. those teams were heavily recruited

Anonymous said...

I think the guy who commented on the low scores having meaning such as the team must be "packing it in" just isn't aware of what the games at these events are like.
It's not like league games at all.
Once you lose a game in bracket play you are basically out of contention to advance(go through to semifinals).
This is another reason games are low scoring at these tournaments.
If yu tie on the first day you are still alive to advance and get get the needed win in the next game.
also some times you may go into your last game needing only a tie to advance based on the results of other teams in your bracket.
It becomes a bit of a chess match between coaches and also different tie breaker formats at different events factor in as well.

Anonymous said...

1:32 very good point.
Many who are relatively new to this level of youth soccer weren't around a few short years ago when that was the case.
At that time those MatchFit Teams and other were in the same position as Wildcats.
The difference now is that MatchFit has an ECNL spot so they have conveniently forgotten that those teams and players were successful at this high level youth soccer as well as sending those players on to successful college careers and are now fully on board the "ECNL is the only way if you want to play in college" bandwagon.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats basher is from NJX. Period.

Anonymous said...

1:50pm -I think you are right.
No team has been impacted more negatively by Wildcats emergence than old NJX Celtic Team.
They are right in each others backyard.
Could it be the "Old Mommy Coach"?
She is NJX Club and has the most to lose. Those clubs go after the same pool of players.

Anonymous said...

Have players gone from NJX to Wildcats and visa versa?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like to me that the Wildcats are playing for a tie which gets you invited back next time. Is that your point?

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter. It kills NJX that they became MF B team while Wildcats became best non ECNL team in NJ.

Anonymous said...

Are you upset that wildcats are now a regularly top flighted team and you are now a B flighted team as in bethesda.
Why don't you take responsibility for your situation and the decisions you made instead of obsessing about our team.
And no there are no players who are on wildcats from njx or vice versa.

Anonymous said...

How did joining MF benefit NJX? ECNL team remains up north. You don't have to be on NPL team to tryout for MF ECNL. What exactly was the point? Long ride to practice if you make it.

Anonymous said...

They would still probably be a top flight team if they hadn't combined.
too bad.

Anonymous said...

You talk as if they aren't still a top team in NJ. The players are still the same, they won the Spring State cup against all of the NJ teams and they have done well this fall.

Sounds like someone has an infatuation with them not the other way around.

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats or MF NPL

Maybe the New Jersey Cup 2015, will answer that question

Anonymous said...

Thank you Northeast girls NPL forthe update this answers many questions.

Winners of the Northeast Girls NPL playoffs qualify to the 2015 NPL Finals, slated for July 9-13, in Westfield, Ind.

DATE AND LOCATION:
June 13-14, 2015
Orangetown Soccer Complex
Orangeburg, N.Y. 10962

The top four teams from the U-13 Pre-ECNL Division will also participate for a league championship but are unable to advance to the NPL Finals.

Anonymous said...

Lets see who benefited from the merger with njx?
MF got use of njx fields and access to all of the njx teams and players. How many njx teams have folded or are folding since the merger? MF got one of the best teams in the state if not the region, njx Celtic. MF is taking the so called top 4 from Celtic to their ecnl team.

Njx got promised the best training?? Parents bought into the scholarship and ecnl bs. Guess what your not the ecnl team. Mommy got her daughter to play at a level that she would never make on her own accord.
How is that training working out. You have more losses in 6 months since MF took over in the last 2 years and the level of competition has dropped drastically. Currently flighted as a b team. Wait till next year. Looks like 4 players benefitted with promises of ecnl aspirations and another player treading in very deep water. How many kids left that team already, 4 or 5? And more to come.
So the used car salesman got sold a Lemon. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person

Anonymous said...

Wildcats got smoked 3-1 by Ajax this season. Best Non-ECNL team? Wildcats would finish 3rd or 4th in NE NPL.
Wildcats have accumulated a lot of GS points, not any wins. Don't be confused.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't call 3-1 smoked. Just saying

Anonymous said...

I would. I quote your earlier post

"For anyone who has been there they know that ties and low scoring games are the NORM at the top flights of these elite events. Goals are hard to come by against nationally ranked, very organized teams at any age"

Smoked.

Anonymous said...

Very bitter parent I guess and assuming you are one that left. Your kid was in over her head anyway. The bottom half of that team was there to enjoy the ride. Be happy your daughter had that experience and move on quietly. The move to MF worked for most and the ones that did not make the pool for either of the two teams for next season were exposed. Reality is your daughter should not have been at this level in the first place.

Anonymous said...

Lose an argument, attack a 12-13 year old kid. Sick and very sad!

Anonymous said...

You seriously need to let it go. Way to long to be hanging onto the same digs. I agree with poster who said that the parent screwed up by jumping teams and little Sally is the one that paid the price so instead of blaming everyone else, get yourself together and do something productive to get your daughter in the proper place. Then maybe, just maybe you will find some peace and won't find the need to constantly attack on this blog. It's getting you no where to focus your energy here. Just trying to give some healthy advice. Let go and put your energy into your daughter.

Anonymous said...

Dear Smokie,

Only you can prevent stupidity.

Anonymous said...

So an adult is donating her time and you have the balls to criticize her for trying to give your daughter the best chance possible at getting into an academy club. Now that she did not make the cut you find the need to lash out. I am going to guess that you are one of those parents that NEVER donates their time for anything..... Get your daughter on a team that suits her level and stop attacking people that actually contribute to youth sports.

Anonymous said...

New Jersey u13 soccer needs some antibiotics, stat.

Anonymous said...

Always tough to hear your kid is not as good as you think. I get that. But to blame others is just foolish. Goes for all of you on here.... Worry about your own and let others be. Does anything good ever come out of it??

Anonymous said...

I just think the negativity is so juvenile. It is like if my daughter's team lost to Wildcats. Should I now go on here and post negative comments about their coach? Or maybe just say it was a good game and we lost this time...... Or my team lost to Storm. Should I now come on here and bash that PDA has too many players on their roster? Or just say they played better soccer then us that day...... Worry about your own! We will all be better off.

Anonymous said...

I think everyone is worried about their own. That's why we are here. Your always gonna have pissed off parents.

Anonymous said...

I not worried about my daughter, she is getting the best youth training in the United States, and she is getting better every session.

Anonymous said...

3 magic beans

Anonymous said...

Bottom half of that team was over their head? Really? So if there was 18 on that roster your saying 9-18 were over their heads. Wow you just bashed 9 girls, I hope your not still on that team. If you are you should leave now, their is no I in team. I would consider my daughter in the bottom half. You won't have the balls to say that at practice

Anonymous said...

Some sick parents(many of them live on this site) when their Liitle Suzie loses and she or her team are exposed as not as good as they thought or claimed to be, are frustrated and try and get even by attacking the opposing coach personally(he is too loud, he is too quiet, not animated enough, too demonstrative on the sidelines,trains his players outside of team training, is political,they don't play with enough skill, too direct, parents are not well behaved on sideline, kids played too rough or fouled too much,etc.).
All this is very simply an attempt to deflect attention from what happened on the field(they lost).
sometimes when their team loses to a team they can't accept losing to, this behavior continues for as long as many months.
It's also a form of denial.
Often afflicts most those who are the most avid KoolAid Drinkers.

Anonymous said...

11:49 Yes, it's called childish behavior and a form of denial.
Like when our girls were very young and they lost and they were mad so they would claim that after the game one of the opposing girls spit on their hand before shaking with them.
This allowed them to try and get even by taking the focus off losing and deflect credit from the other team.
Infantile, vindictive parents who can't accept that their Dear Daughter can ever fail, hear the word no, or face any adversity without Mommy or Daddy jumping in to fix it often do the same thing in ways like those you mentioned.
They are a joke.
These are often the parents whose kids I have seen so often over the years, even when talented enough to get an offer to play in college, end up back home by October because they don't have the tools to handle any of the adversity which they all face at the next level.
The MOST important attributes that determine success at the next level are mental toughness, perseverance, self confidence and self belief, and work ethic.
Everyone is talented, athletic and skilled at the D1 level.
The intangibles often makes the difference between who plays and stays, and who sits, gets disgruntled and is back at JC by the end of their freshmen year, often with a jacket that makes them radio active to college coaches at many of the programs they are interested in transferring to.
A shame so many parents set their own child up for this failure down the road.

Anonymous said...

Nobody is bashing the kids on here. We are all making fun of YOU, the parent who cannot read the situation correctly. Please let you duaghter find HER way on to a team that suits HER level of play and let HER enjoy herself. Not about you big guy.....
So many still trying to relive the glory days.....

Anonymous said...

^ Listen to the coach for he is full wisdom, or at least full of something.

Anonymous said...

Yes 12:06, and see post 12:05.

Anonymous said...

12:10 you are a great example of exactly the parent depicted.
Just too dumb to realize it.

Anonymous said...

^ Yes all knowing one, I am just too dumb.

Anonymous said...

Why not then refute what you disagree with in the posts instead of attacking personally?
Attacking the messenger is always a sign of ignorance.
It is a weapon wielded by those who lack the intelligence, knowledge of the subject or experience to engage in a reasoned discourse.

Anonymous said...

^Drop your weapons. Cease the attack.

Anonymous said...

8:00 am, 2 girls have left MF Npl of course more will leave and come as the years go one,that is to be expected. If your a parent who left, go do what's best for your daughter. No need to bash the girls/parents who have chosen to stay.

Anonymous said...

If you leave a team during the middle of the year, that is a sign of weakness, if you come on here and bash the team you left, that is a sign of weakness. That shows a lot about the person you are. WEAK.
Shame because you have just taught your daughter a trait of weakness. Pick up and run when things get tough.
That is a sign of a weak-minded individual.

Anonymous said...

More important than the bashing that's going on. I'm sure the same is going on at every club. The big question is can the wildcats the best non ecnl team win the top bracket at Jeff cup?

Anonymous said...

1:42

No. NJ doesn't have what it takes to win a power house event. Not 1 NJ team in this age group has won anything major. Not until the best players end up on 1 team will they have a chance.

Anonymous said...

1:42 You continue with your wildcats obsession.
The fact that Wildcats are already considered by you to be in the top bracket before they even flight the teams is telling.
And truth is, that is all that matters.
The goal is to be among the teams who play at the highest level.
And to be able to be competitive vs those teams.
All the teams on this blog are aspiring to do that, as that is where the best development and also the exposure is.
To go into the top flight of events like Jeff Cup and say they have to win it all or it is a failure is ridiculous.
Although the fact that you continue to raise the bar for your expectations of their team is also telling.
Not so long ago you were predicting they would lose every game in the top flight of similar events("I will eat my hat if Wildcats don't lose every game in top flight"- "Wildcats will get smoked in top flight").
We haven't forgotten.
Still waiting to hear how that Hat tasted going down.

Anonymous said...

But they might tie every game. Lol

Anonymous said...

Didn't the 2 nj teams in top flight at jeff cup last year, both PDA Ajax and NJ Crush go combined 0 and 6 and each get outscored like 10-1 or worse. I think so.
3 ties would be a huge improvement for NJ this year.

Anonymous said...

When will Northeast NPL post fall GS pounts? Or will they?

Anonymous said...

Wildcats can'y have it both ways:

They want to ignore losses to Boca in last Spring SC and loss to Ajax this season. Yet, point out win against PDA Storm last spring?

EVERYBODY recognizes their coaches posts.

Anonymous said...

Who is talking about win over storm other than yourself?

Anonymous said...

5:25 "When will Northeast NPL post fall GS pounts?

Northeast NPL has nothing to do with that. That's a GS thing, when will the GS people manually enter the NorthEast NPL flights?

However, what they do control is when it their PDP? or will they not have one?

PDP aka ODP sessions US Club Leagues. ECNL has them, NYCSL NPL has one, NewEngland NPL has one and so does the new Virginia NPL, i don't remember them having one last year, will they this year?

Anonymous said...

The NEW 2015 Pennsylvania Cup
Winners from each age group earn automatic slots to the
National Cup XIV Mid-Atlantic Regional,
June 29-July 2, in Somerset, N.J.

Champions from all six National Cup XIV Regionals
qualify to the National Cup XIV Finals,
Grand Park in Westfield, Ind., July 17-20.

Anonymous said...

Creeks, FC Virginia, Cup Gold

Try running that gauntlet when shorthanded, 3:11

Anonymous said...

No excuses 8:13. Isn't that what you always say?
Besides what do you expect in the top flight other than the best teams.
And please don't tell US about playing shorthanded.
We did that all last year.

Anonymous said...

Leagues we talk about on this board.
Team list @ Jefferson by league placement. I am curious to see how important league play is vs tournament results.

NorthEast Girls Pre-ECNL
6. Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL
9. World Class FC '01 Charlton
11. Continental FC Delco ECNL '01

NorthEast Girls NPL
1. PDA Dragons
3. PDA Ajax
4. CFC Arsenal Sky
5. Penn Fusion SA '01G NPL

NYCSL NPL
1. New York SC G01
2. STA Morris United NPL 01
3. NJ Crush FC Tsunami
5. Manhattan SC G01 Pride

New England NPL
2. Oakwood Soccer Club
7. Aztec Soccer 01 Black
8. GPS-MA NPL

EDP Central
1. NJ Wildcats Averbuch
2. CES Calvert CREW
4. NJSA 04 GALAXY
5. Pipeline SC Black
8. Harford FC United Thunder

EDP North
1. HBC Spark
3. NJCSA Elite
5. TSF Academy 01/02G

EDP Central D2
2. PDA Shore Fusion
4. Atlantic United Academy - Avalanche

PAGS
1. Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
3. YMS Banshees
4. 1776 United Xtremes
5. HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT
6. Rage SC '01 Athletica
8. Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Black
9. PHWM SC Pumas

NYCSL PL
1. Atletico FC Atletico FC Girls '01

Anonymous said...

8 losses for Ajax since March events

3 for Wildcats

Anonymous said...

Thanks 8;21, good list!

Anonymous said...

What league does FC Virginia pre-ecnl and maryland red ecnl play in

Anonymous said...

I was on your side wildcats...but you won't stop too.

Shut up for a few days.

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