8:34Great.....Maybe my kid will have a better chance.
I have an honest question - how are girls making commitments and such to colleges at this age (or in a few years)? Don't NCAA rules prohibit recruiting untl spring or summer of ther HS junior year?And no, this has nothing to do with my daughter, I am really just curious about how this whole process works when I hear of things like this.
If your daughter wants to receive any athletic scholarship money(even a partial athletic scholarship) to a D1 program, she will most likely have to verbally commit by the end of her sophomore year.That is unfortunately the current reality in womens college soccer.While verbal commits are not technically binding, in womens soccer(unlike mens basketball and football) college coaches usually all refuse to consider or recruit a student athlete who has verbally committed to another school.
So we get to try out for the team where those cool Dynamo Futsal Team girls and their parents play.We will all be there for sure!
The obsession of winning now at all costs is still keeping us way behind the soccer world. Too much money involved. Poster is correct when saying we have no creativity because if that player tries to be creative and costs that U13 team the game, they are scolded for it. Plain and simple to me why we cannot move forward.... We are the short sighted US soccer.
Honestly - I don't trust the organization. Would rather take my chances with WCFC. I don't like that Pda will have 24 girls - otherwise I would try that first.
10:44That stuff is available pnline4:06You are peddling untruths about the end of soph year thingBut I do expect the "my daughter is going to commit as a soph" to replace "my daughter plays for ECNL" as the top brag in a few years.
And what will happen if your D can't make WCFC? Every organization has its down falls but what do you want for your D?
8:01Have you experienced the college thing within the past few years. The trend is becoming exactly what 4:06 is saying. Personal knowledge. It's sad and crazy.
7:30I think it is more that the kids arent out trying moves, playing games on their own - where that type creativity would blossom.Practices are skills intensive but possibly too regimented toward team play.But kids can do the moves beautifully, score great goals on XBOX
8:06I think if you took that ECNL list that showed teh schools they are attending - the one US soccer was bragging about in the article...you'd see a good percentage of junior commits - and some seniors.I amnot saying soph commits arent all the rage. The initial post insinuated that if you are not soph committed you are in trouble. Couldnt be further from the truth.If you are talking about needing to get into one particular school, even 2 or 3, that could be your experience that particular year, of course.
I guess my question can be stated another way - how is it possible for a sophomore verbally commit to a college when they are not allowed to recruit players at this age? How do they get around the NCAA rules regarding that?
I think 8:13 if far closer to the "solution". Although I don't view it as if we have some huge systemic problem in women's soccer. If you watched our u-17s take apart the Japanese girls a couple weeks back you know what I am saying. Look in no other major sport most of which we dominate the world at do coaches de-emphasize winning. Anyone have a football coach who didn't care about winning but instead spent years working on "development"? Our high priced coaches have convinced us the only way to get better is through high priced structured training and really I think thats just the opposite of what they need at a young age.
8:17 you answered your own question.THEY are not allowed to recruit. THEY are allowed to tell the club coach (I believe) and the PLAYER is allowed to contact them and visit the school at the players cost. I know there is more to this just trying to make it simple. To the guys with experience or in the know am I close?7:30 I think it's okay to play to win the game is played that way. But I'm with you - the coach needs to sit back let the kids figure it out. that's also part of development instead of telling them where they need to be or what they need to do during play unless of course you are switching a formation. Let them play instead of being robots, same goes to the parents.
8:17Player can contact the coach first. Then the restrictions change a bit.If there is a fit as a sophomore a VERBAL offer can be extended/accepted (acceptance is termed a "commit") - but it is not binding on either side.
8:26 and 8:13 and why are the kids not trying moves? My guess is they are scared to or confused by all the in game instructions being provided. I agree you can see a shift - now you just need Ellis or who ever will be the coach to start playing some new faces and a different style like Sermanni tried. I disagree with you about our coaches. i think the coaches are doing the right thing when it comes to developing the kids from a technical point of view - now he kids need to make mistakes and learn from them but i guess when you are trying to win those mistakes can hurt. So you have players scared to make moves.This is why I like the 18+ roster size for ECNL only. If ECNL is to be a DA they need to be allowed to do what ODP has been doing keep the larger roster and allow the kids to compete for playing time. then they need to pass their test.I also think there should be no state cups or national title played before 16. NPL, ECNL, EDP, Region1 & National leagues have it right form a league and let them play meaningful games while they battle during the week at training to earn that right.just my opinion
8:17 Yes you are close.Some verbals fall through at times so some late money comes available to later commits, but for the major conferences probably 90% or more of the athletic scholarship money is gone after a classes soph year.As you say players must be proactive about contacting college coaches and visits on their own dime and a club coach with experience in the process and contacts among college coaches has been there with previous teams thru the process can be a big help in getting the coaches of the schools you are interested in attending out to your games at the college showcase events.
It is a very slow day so let's ask something different.Who are the top 10 club teams in NJ?Enough bashing of MF, PDA, Wildcats.
Let me pose this question - how many games is too much for a Spring/Summer season? Between league & tournament play what would you say should be max? Figure on season starting end of March/April. So that would be 4 months of play starting then & ending when U14 would start on 8/1. Are there any guidelines on max # of games & max number of practices a team should have per week?
According to GS here are your top 10:1. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 012. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL3. PDA STORM 4. PDA AJAX 5. NJCSA GALAXY 6. MF ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL7. NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 8. MF ACADEMY FC ECNL 9. TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 10.JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONBut I think it is more like:1. PDA STORM2. MF ACADEMY FC ECNL 3. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL4. PDA AJAX 5. MF ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL6. PDA DRAGONS7. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 018. NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 9. NJCSA GALAXY10.JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION
Thank you for the list 4:08. What I wanted to say is, who are the top 10 town club teams? We all know MF, PDA, WC will consist of the TOP 10, but I was curious to see what 10 town teams deserve some respect.
USSF said 3:110 Fall League10 Spring League6 2x August Tournaments3 1x Columbus Day Tournmanet3 1x Novemebr End Fall Season3 1x March Tournament3 1x April Tournamant 3 1x May/June Tournament41 Scheduled Games (but I think you can add another 11 to reach 52)7 tournament x $1,000 (this is on the high side) = $7,000 3 t0 4 players on roster will covert this expense the rest goes to coach and misc club/team expenses. PS. I don't care how big the roster is 20 Leagues games for top 18 players in games that matter21 tournament games so every one else gets their 20 games since everyone pays the same amount. I think that's fair. And your in the 3 to 1 ratio
Professional men play a 34 game season, NCAA women its 24 games & same for the professional women. I think 25 max per season no more than 50 in a year. As far as practice/training - twice max in season. After month off, once per week during off season plus an exercise regimen. & yes that is what my kid's team does.
4:14 I agree if we are talking ECNL becomes next DA then those teams are out of the top 10 lists for good. They will have their league to concentrate on.1. STA2. NJ Crush3. NJCSA Galaxy4. New Jersey Rush5. TSF6. Jersey Shore Boca7. NJCSA Manalapan8. Medford9. FC Copa10. SDFC Samba
MLS Plays34 League games5 Pre Season games?3+ Lamar Hunt Open Cup games6+ CCL games2+ Summer Friendlies~50 games depending on how good your team is.EPL teams are different they have a huge roster to cover EPL, CUP and Champions/Europa league games.
No everyone is leaving that one. Post some others. The blue or black team or white team will be the Npl team by default
When are everyone's tryouts? What clubs are speculated to pick up even more talent and what clubs will suffer? Just curious what people think.
Match fit and PDA will trade some players.
MF is like the ginger bread man. Run run run as fast as you can. Its a Ponzi scheme
Why do you think MF is posting there tryouts already and holding them so early. Expecting a mass exodus.
I think they are expecting a mass showupNot sure the current players would be looking to go anywhereBut with a team where you know the slots are desired, I would think some team members would have a plan B
2015 NPL FINALS1. Maple Valley Premier (WA)2. FC Portland Academy (OR)3. FC Alliance (TN)The Florida Premier League will have the 4th team to qualify thisweekend for the Finals if JFC Storm 01/02 win they are in anything else West Florida Flames 01 Elite Girls goes throughGulf States Premier LeagueMS Rush 02 Girls will be in the playoffs, not sure if 2 or 4 teams play in this post seasonMidwest Developmental LeagueOmaha Elite Girls Academy (NE) is in if Michagan Hawks slip vs MO & IL St. Louis Scott Gallagher or they canwatch the hawks leap frog them to Indiana.Mountain Developmental LeagueArizona Arsenal (AZ)in the early drivers seat with the seasonto wrap up March 14thwhen they play the NM teams.New England Premier LeagueNEFC Elite (MA) is almost a done deal, Oakwood needs a miracle.Northeast Girls NPLPDA North (NJ) is the fall champion with PDA South, MF NPL & CFC NPL almost certain to join them in the Playoffs.Northwest Champions LeagueThe winner of Crossfire Premier vs Cascade FC will play Seattle United in the final on March 8th.New York Club Soccer LeagueNYSC (NY) is the fall champion, with STA & NJ Crush very much alive this spring.South Central Premier LeagueOklahoma Football Club (OK) in the drivers seat +6 points with 4 games remainingVirginia NPLPrince William Soccer (VA) clinched at least a one game playoff if they don't win the Spring league vs the Spring champion.No games PlayedEastern Development ProgramSouthern California NPL
For PA teams:I'm seeing mid April tryouts for most. I'm sure clubs will all try to keep these close together.PF may pick up one or two, will still be a solid team but behind Legacy. Classics not much change with Legacy so close by. Legacy will have the best turnout and become even stronger when they cut/add a few. Rage may get some FC Rev players and improve some. CFC roster will not improve.
Mass Exodus? Why? It's a solid age group Matchfit has. Why would people be leaving? I think someone is trying there best to sabotage this age group. Because your daughter isn't good enough to play there, you shouldn't bash the program and try to corrupt the minds of others. Parents, see for yourself what a program has to offer. Don't listen to thede fools.
Why are you sating PF will behind Legacy & Classics? when they will be ahead of ODP once ECNL becomes DA and could careless of PL and Classics same for CFC Delco and FC Bucks. Why is PA so blind?
7:34 Not the original poster but let me interject. 10:53 did not say PF will be behind Classics, re-read the post. Please try to understand 99% of these girls play soccer to win, that comes with assembling the most talented overall team, and that team then gets referred to as being "on top" by most rational observers, at least until they lose. By that standard PL will likely stay "on top" in PA next year. By your standard which is some arbitrary concept in your head, maybe not. And that's a big speculation you are making about the girls DA. Sorry but again, no way they put 2 in the same town of west Chester. Right now the ODP regional team trumps ECNL, id2, et al. IF some thing changes we can talk.
Where are you seeing that PF/ECNL will become a DA? That's just speculation!
8:33 You are correct, I didn't see the period. My bad :(I don't argue PL being at the top of PA ranks. I am just saying "IF" and it looks like it will ECNL becomes Girls DA in goes straight past ODP are you saying this is False if this happens? and if it goes past ODP I think we both agree that will change the landscape in PA.Since I was bored below is the Delco split by league with their GS nat rankings. For those that like this enjoy.ECNL8 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 019 World Class FC '01 Charlton23 Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNL33 Boston Breakers Academy GU13 ECNL37 CFC West Orange63 Penn Fusion SA '01G Pre-ECNL174 Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue207 Maryland United FC 01 ECNL304 Continental FC Delco Pre-ECNL '01NorthEast NPL30 Players Development Academy Ajax87 CFC Arsenal Sky373 World Class FC '01Hamm NPL797 Penn Fusion SA '01G NPL1204 Continental FC Barca '01F NPL3386 Albertson Soccer Club Fury 01 NPLNYCSL NPL49 New York SC G0151 ISA 01 NPL82 NJ Crush FC Tsunami109 Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies330 Quickstrike FC EliteNew England NPL12 NEFC Elite U13 Girls18 Seacoast United Elite - DR- 01/02EDP NPL52 NJCSA GALAXY131 New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue155 Smithtown Stars159 Alleycats Soccer Club Elite Neko 01/02President's Cup State Champions164 Medford SC Hurricanes687 Beach FC 01G RedRegion1 D1 Blue34 BRYC 01 ELITE141 CENTURY V 0102 ELITE Region1 D1 Red22 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK26 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECTRegion1 D2 Red79 PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE334 CAPITAL UNITED BLUE FORCE442 DMS SOCCER DMS GU13 ACADEMY512 BEADLING SC BEADLING WHITEEDP D1 North148 LAGRANGE RAGE347 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI WHITE EDP D1 Central115 PIPELINE SC BLACK186 WYOMING VALLEY SC '01GIRLS195 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASHEDP D2 North144 Alleycats Premier Mayka 01/02EDP D2 Central359 HFC Ready '01OTHERS4 Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite44 Tri-State FA Elite 0153 Harford FC United Thunder143 Waza FC East 02 Juniors Michigan225 Maryland United FC 01 Red276 Hauppauge Hot Shotz434 Boston Breakers Academy GU13 Royal437 Thunder SC Furia Roja510 X-Treme Select SC '01/02 Select - Black636 Bethesda SC Academy 2001 White689 Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite II939 Mount Laurel United Fury1027 RI Strikers FC 01/02G-Bowden1044 PA Rush PA Rush 011172 Herndon Youth Soccer Hooligans1311 AFFC SWAG1494 Rage United Soccer Club Comets1901 North Babylon Patriot SC Pride2033 Vincent United F.C. Vengeance2132 ESSC/Henlopen Whitecaps2308 Pipeline SC RedN/A Premier Angels
Speculation -for sure based off of the below:NCAA changes to Fall/Spring ScheduleGulati has a good relationship with ECNLECNL is US Club's Top YOUTH leagueUS Club Soccer adds PAyne who "For many years held key positions with U.S. Soccer, serving on the board from 1999-2014 and still maintaining his position as board member and vice chairman of the U.S. Soccer Foundation."
early tryouts and pressure kids to commit before they have a chance to go elsewhere.
9:51 why pressure? If your kid is offered a spot after tryouts ask your current coach if your kid has a spot -if they can't answer that then you know they are on the chopping block if better kids come along your kid is gone. It's how the game is played. If your kid is a major part you will know that as well.If you are worried about having your kid "commit" before a chance else where -then you are on the wrong team and you need to leave.Just this yahoo's opinion.
Best to just go to the tryouts where you will accept a spot. But true - if the current team's situation is murky you may have to ask them some questions on where you stand.Nobody wants bad news (demotion, cut) to come after all the tryout sessions for other clubs have taken place
If you go try out for another club, your current club will find out about some how. Better to either stay with your club or try out for a club you are willing to go to, if offered.
If your going to tryouts other than the team your on, you might as well pack your bags because you are gone from your current team
Or when other players find out it will start a frenzy and everyone else will start going to other tryouts which could cause the team to fold.
No it doesn't mean that! Geesh
a kid should be free to tryout anywhere without retribution from the team.. teams bring in tryout players all year, they don't turn kids way at tryouts.. what's the difference?
2:35 I agree with you 100%.The difference is and this is just this yahoo's opinion.Some parents try to do it on the sneak tip all hush hush. I believe, if you tell the coach why you are doing what you are doing they will never have a problem with what you are doing as long as it's not negative and you don't put them on the defensive.Crazy time of year, where girls that are ready or think they are ready will try to make a move so they can improve themselves and their new team. Unfortunately, someone gets the short end of the stick and they are usually really good soccer players,it just happens that sometimes kids that are better come along. No stress - just business as usual - there is always a level and a team for every kid.
There will be late movement after early tryouts are over after existing players from pre-ecnl teams are dropped to B teams due to new out of club players taking their spots.Others will see that while they are offered a chance to stay on team it will be in a reduced role and maybe even result in often not dressing for events due to expanded rosters so many will move for that reason as well.Their will be more movement overall at this years tryouts for U14 than at any other year.
Problem is non ECNL teams are mostly full, even overly so.....There are more and more families each year entering the club soccer experience.
Maybe but a girl not already playing premier soccer by this age likely isn't good enough to make the top team at a premier club. So they're just placed on a B or C team. Won't affect the top teams. only players on top teams moving to another club team will make any difference.
4:36 you are wrong.their are top players on many teams who could step right in and earn a spot on the A Teams. Some who haven't even stepped away from their local teams yet but are outstanding prospects and athletes. Yo wold be surprised it's only U13 and their is still much time left to develop players.
PDA about ready to get Match Flecce troubled player this fall.
4:36 is not wrong. unless your talking about a premier team that has lost a lot of its skilled core players, and has accepted that it will be a developmental year with good athletes. You then have to have parents that are willing to pay the price and commit the time of having their daughters play with girls that are learning on the fly. FC Revolution went this route and brought their whole "B" team up. It is why its skilled players left last year, and more players are leaving this year. Parents like to see their daughters challenged at practice by other top level players. There is nothing wrong with having a team full of club level players that are overly physical and can kick the ball really far , sometimes the Wildcats do well with it.
Oh....the e-mails and phone calls have started, eh, 6:06?
6:12 your fixation with wildcats is really annoying. I believe your slip is showing.It's time you go get some meds for that obsessive condition.You don't have to suffer anymore!
Is it match fleeced ecnl or npl problem child. Both have been threatening to leave for the powder blue for years. They have been running the show with their threats for a while now. Problem is, they probably won't make powder blue. What goes around, comes around.
Mf ecnl already in powder blue.
He means the real powder blue!!!!
I am confused, which players are you talking about?GFA girl?NPL girl from TR?
Like a dentist hitting a nerve while drilling out a cavity 7:51? That kind of annoying? I think if we all listened closely, we would of heard a rattle being thrown after your post. As far as wishing we could be proud wearers of the powder blue? isn't that the San Diego Chargers colors also? Hmmm, another team that does well sometimes and never wins the big games. Thanks for bringing up the parallel though. I am from none of those teams you mentioned and still trying to figure out how "your slip is showing" applies to my comments. But lets just say we ended in a tie ( so it will be just like a win for you).
6:12You bring up a good point"Parents like to see their daughters challenged at practice by other top level players"What are you to do if this is what your team is facing? Only 2-3 players that can challenge one another. Is it time to look elsewhere is terms for your own daughters progress, or do you stick it out and for how long?
Training in a team setting is only as good as the weakest links. It's why town based teams all break apart at some point. The good players and their parents understand this and leave.
9:12 Believe me we all know the team and club you are from.It's the team that was at the top but now has fallen so far, and has only bitterness and jealousy for those who have replaced them.
Why are you so obsessed with another team?? Only thing I would be worried about is if your team did NOT get additional players that wanted to be on your team. Staying the same will get old and the ones that made adjustments will move on to a higher level of play.
Again, not about how it goes U13. The short sided programs ALWAYS fall behind when it counts.
Sorry guys, but FC DELCO players cup is the only major with it's applied list public, so this is the only one I can have some fun with. For the GS people - I know points don't mean anything but it is a little fun to talk about. Below are the GS top 5% teams and how many points they bring to their bracket as of today. Of course this will change a lot as NY CUP & NJ CUP will be done, PA NCS will be done, JEFF CUP& PDA will be done. I see 8 teams that will bring 10,000 to their flight and they are not top flight teams. looks like it's going to be a deep tournament with only one more week to apply we might not see to many more top teams applying with the EDP Cup also that weekend. 4,027 GS Ranked Teams##################10,000 POINT TEAMS top 1%##################4 Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite8 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 019 World Class FC '01 Charlton12 NEFC Elite U13 Girls18 Seacoast United Elite - DR- 01/0222 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK23 Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNL26 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT30 Players Development Academy Ajax33 Boston Breakers Academy GU13 ECNL34 BRYC 01 ELITE37 CFC West Orange44 Tri-State FA Elite 0149 New York SC G0151 ISA 01 NPL52 NJCSA GALAXY53 Harford FC United Thunder#################7,500 POINT TEAMS top 2%#################63 Penn Fusion SA '01G Pre-ECNL67 HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT79 PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE82 NJ Crush FC Tsunami87 CFC Arsenal Sky#################5,000 POINT TEAMS top 3%#################109 Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies115 PIPELINE SC BLACK131 New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue#################3,250 POINT TEAMS top 5%#################141 CENTURY V 0102 ELITE 143 Waza FC East 02 Juniors Michigan144 Alleycats Premier Mayka 01/02148 LAGRANGE RAGE155 Smithtown Stars159 Alleycats Soccer Club Elite Neko 01/02164 Medford SC Hurricanes174 Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue186 WYOMING VALLEY SC '01GIRLS195 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH207 Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
Delco looks a bit light in talent this year. Is there a reason for that?
I dont think its light - other than no real out of area powers. Could be we see them come in at a later time. (speaking FLA. GA, NC, MI, maybe TX types)
Only 1 more week to apply top flights look like this to me as of now with only JEFF CUP to be finished before flights are released: That top Flight is MONEY blows JEFF CUP out of water and I think the second flight will be better as well. So what do you mean by light no STA, NJ Wildcats, EM, Storm, MFE CNL, MFNPL maybe they'll play in the EDP Cup with Calvert and FSA?F14 Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite8 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 0112 NEFC Elite U13 Girls33 Boston Breakers Academy GU13 ECNL34 BRYC 01 ELITE37 CFC West Orange44 Tri-State FA Elite 0163 Penn Fusion SA '01G Pre-ECNLF29 World Class FC '01 Charlton18 Seacoast United Elite - DR- 01/0222 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK23 Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNL26 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT30 Players Development Academy Ajax49 New York SC G01207 Maryland United FC 01 ECNLF351 ISA 01 NPL52 NJCSA GALAXY67 HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT82 NJ Crush FC Tsunami87 CFC Arsenal Sky115 PIPELINE SC BLACK143 Waza FC East 02 Juniors Michigan174 Bethesda SC Academy 2001 BlueF453 Harford FC United Thunder79 PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE109 Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies131 New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue141 CENTURY V 0102 ELITE 148 LAGRANGE RAGE159 Alleycats Soccer Club Elite Neko 01/02186 WYOMING VALLEY SC '01GIRLS
I think flights 2 and 3 will see some adjustments
Division actually seems stronger compared to last year's entrants
Defending Delco champs, for the record:Breakers - Flight 1Greater Binghamton - Flight 2PA Crew Academy Blue - Flight 3NJ Crush Tsunami White - Flight 4FC Revolution - 8 v 8 Flight 1STA NPL - 8 v 8 Flight 2STA NPL White - 8 v 8 Flight 3
I'm sure even with the top flight - I kept PL out of it because I think PF did better vs F1 teams than they did in my opinion. That can easily change if PL has a good Jeff Cup and PF doesn't.For me NYSC, PDA Ajax can easily slip to F3 and I'm sure CFC Delco pre-ECNL can be placed in F3 or F4. Plus we still don't have some of the PA top teams 1776, PA Classics, Rage and YMS to name a few.The top 2 flights look like they will be max 10,000 point 8 team flights and if YMS and Rage also apply Flight 3 will be close to 10,000.By no means is that light from a GS perspective and from a quality of teams they all look good as well
What stinks about GS is that they will not include a top tournament like the Greer Jr ECNL event in the beginning of May That's 10,000 GS points that go to no one plus the NE NPL pre-ECNL Fall season left another 10,000 points to go to no one as they will probably give points once instead of twice for Fall and Spring like NYCSL NPL and and NE NPL does.Greer top flight?EMFC VirginiaMFStormPFVardar
Apples to oranges my friend....
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If you look gotsoccer for PAE after the Jeff Cup things could change. PL and PF will lose Jeff Cup points from last year. If neither of those teams make any points at the Jeff Cup but Rage or YMS does then they could move ahead of PL. There could be a new top team in PAE. I wonder if one of those teams moves up to #1 on gotsoccer will they promote it on their website and interview the coach about it?
On the other hand, if PL were to win Jeff Cup, which I think all 8 teams have a legitimate shot at, they would not only be #1 in PA, but Reg 1, and I think the country as well.
Hey 11:16. you have no idea of what club I am from. Everything you described is exactly opposite of whats going on in my daughters soccer world. She is with one of the top clubs and has to be at her best at each practice, which is what happens when you don't bring "B" players in, or athletic girls with littls soccer skills that can kick the ball really far (sound like what you use to seeing?). Amazingly, your guesswork is even lower than you soccer knowledge. Take another guess and ring your cowbell and show how smart you are (again). You could try the "Are you smarter than a fifth grader game" You might do well there.
1:36 No way dude no one takes GS rankings that seriously. PAGS fall league no GS points Top flight around 9k).North East girls NPL no GS points for fall top flight 10K.As a previous poster said to me apples to oranges is 100% correct.Some day they might get it right.
I agree with 3:32. Taking GS points that seriously would be a huge mistake. GS can sometimes be fairly accurate for the first couple teams ranked. But after that its a total crap shoot, with teams getting points in crap tourneys while using guest players to help win them. GS ranking are fun to look at and some clubs will use them as a marketing tool or to show progress to team parents.
2:57 Top teams/clubs have A kids coming to their tryouts to get on their team. Don't think that is going on at your club.....
But coach, we did beat PDA at U13 once...... The sort sighted club.
2:57 If you are as happy as you say with your daughters situation and team then why are you so bitter and hateful towards another team? Why not just enjoy the great team and training and your daughter playing with all those A List players. Someone in such a great situation would have no need to throw stones at others me thinks.Seems your slip is showing again my dear.
Or paw is showing....... Meow.... I demand respect! All these other clubs that we tie stink!
Wait 432, you mean the place where ties count as wins & where 2 goal losses count as meaningless? Too funny.
The best part about this is that you and your junior partner (4:24) have no clue what club I'm from or what state. But it is Friday night and you two will be able to discuss it at your usual sausage fest party (don't eat to much). Its even funnier that I could absolutely care less where your daughter plays (and I'm sure she's a very good player), but it's bothering you tremendously. But because I don't agree with your slant on what must be in the soccer world, you know exactly where my daughter plays and at the ready to criticize. Parents must really gather around you during practice to hear your pearls of wisdom that are occasionally dropped. Horses pretty much drop the same pearls of knowledge that you spew here (just out of a different end). What we need is Seth the Soothsayer to come out and help you with your guesses. By the way, where is PDA located anyway? And is one team an "A" and the other a "B". Would like an answer from someone other than the sausage boys.
It seems the illiterate Ajax parent is back on the blog.
Yes, 4:52 has outed him.Just when we thought he was gone for good.
Wow!! So far PDA and AJAX parents not very well thought of. Must be a NJ thing. By illiterate, do you mean they can't read and spell very well? Or that they just don't agree with you? We played against both teams and the parents might not be able to read and spell, but they were extremely classy during and after games. Except for the one parent in the powder blue wildcat sweatshirt, screaming at his wife that she drove him to the wrong game and that these stupid teams keep passing and can't kick the ball really far.
Sausage fest, PDA has a sausage fest?At first I thought that was funny, now its kind of creepy, wonder what kind of meat they are talking about?
12:04, you are a jack-ass, happy now?
5:15 They are pissed because they are in the lower flights.Just ignore their ignorant jealousy.they desperately want their daughters and teams to be where yours are.
Thanks dude, my kids team does not get much respect on this board, but that’s fine be me. This is the best club in my area, and my daughter is one of the best on her team, so its all good. But sometimes it just rubs me the wrong-way, it should not, but it just does. Occasionally, someone says something positive, which I appreciate, but all this negativity is really tiresome and repetitive. The girls try to improve themselves at every practice, and as long as my daughter wears her current uniform I will constantly support her, and her club.
thanks 5:20 -It is pretty obvious isn't it!
All negativity comes AFTER your claws come out against another program. You always seem to forget that..... Just deal with the fact that this is your ceiling. Will it be good enough to get you to U15-16? We will see.
Great post 5:29. This PA parent is happy to see your comments regarding parents mainly concerned about supporting their daughters in what they love to do. Your post has inspired me to quit needling the the two tweedles and stay more positive. I truly admire the parents that are there for every practice and every game cheering their daughter on, even though she might be more of a support player and not receive as much time or very little at all. I often wonder if I could do the same. I will even stop annoying the Wildcat parent that thinks I'm from PDA. I'm sure he loves to see his daughter playing soccer as much as I do. Most players in any sport hit a ceiling at some point, our wish as parents is to give them a chance not to hit it.
Thanks 6:11, 5:29 here, we are from NY, but it doesn’t matter where we play, we are all equal when it comes to loving our child, and we all support them, and we all care about their experience, since its our experience also. I have smiled with my daughter when she won, and I have shared sadness with her when she was heart-broken, but its my job to keep her positive, and to make sure she still wants to compete with the regions best. No one knows when this journey will end, but we all want this to be a trip of fond memories, thoughts that will carry her through her life, and perhaps someone when she is old she will remember her crazy Dad, and the times they shared together.
And she will. I have been through this with two older siblings. They still talk about things they saw during our endless drives to many different destinations. I feel better already now that I'm being positive. Come you wildcat parents, we can be friends now. Hell, you may even find out you like PA parents, PDA parents and MF parents.
5:45 This is our ceiling why because you say so?I have done this before have you?Where does your expertise come from on our team?What is your experience and track record with elite level teams and players.
History proves itself Itself my friend!!! Just look at your programs track record. Can your team be the diamond in the ruff? Of course. But I will take the proven road..... Good luck.
that happy thought of opposing parents liking each other lasted 133 minutes. Almost a new record for this blog.
Penn Fusion is scrimmaging Legacy today and teams are playing in the Europa Cup this morning. Good luck girls, keep moving and try to stay warm. I think as players the girls are committed and as parents we should just be committed to the nearest institution.
Question: Do PF and PL compete for the same player pool, are they close enough to each other?Also, what is the relationship like between the parental groups, do they respect each other?Thanks!
7:55You might want to check your calendar before heading out for that scrimmage today
Quite a few scrimmages and some indoor stuff going on today, I would imagine.
So... the Greer event...that's exclusive, right?No chance for teams outside the bubble to take down a power?Just eat each other and claim you are better. Funny.
I do not think players from Fusion would come to PL, but a PL parent and player willing to give up a lot time (4 hours combined practice and drive, for three nights a week), might make the trip to PF. Really good relationship between the clubs, with parents and players from both clubs getting together for indoor and futsal events. I guess that hour and fifteen minute drive between clubs is a good buffer zone. As they say. Great fences make great neighbors. Classics and Legacy only two miles apart...Hmmm.
2 miles, yikes, haha, no not good at all....
you can also just hitch up the trailer and move closer
oh no, you didn’t, hahaha.oh yes, you did...zonks!and don’ forget the beer, and granny.
Yes indeed, don't forget granny? Although I think she's dead now. But wait!! We could just put her in a powder blue uniform and lean her up against the post. It would simply be one more Wildcat defender in the box (although that would make it twelve). Of course someone else would have to come along and kick it really far. But with everyone in the box that shouldn't be a problem. Wildcat dads hitting on granny would be a problem too. At least they would finally find a willing partner that they don't have to pay.
Wow 4:11 this is a YOUTH SOCCER blog.Your illness has progressed to the point where it is no longer remotely funny.You have become hateful, evil and foul.Your posts have become inappropriate for this forum.You have no place on this blog.
This weather is pulling the plug on everything. Teams will be less prepared for Jeff Cup than ever. That is if Jeff Cup even happens at this rate! Frustrating.
4:11 stay off this blog.
We all know some of the girls go on and read this blog.To suggest such things about a teams parents is beyond the pale.
Not defending 4:11 at all but why do you let your kids on this blog? Why do they even know about it??
Mine don't, but to think there are not players going on this blog is insane.They hear about it and check it out.Count on it. It's the U13 girls youth soccer blog and they are the U13 girls soccer players.The point is some of the obsessing and hating about other teams has become personal, unrelated to soccer, and inappropriate in mixed company.This is after all, just sport.It's no wonder some of these girls act out inappropriately on the field.And it will only grow worse as they get older if you keep modeling such inappropriate behavior as a parent.As always, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Link to Region 1 results?
Maybe the admin can do us a favor and delete that nonsense.
Games from yesterday's Region 1 league were postponed.
Bravo 6:25!Classless parents raise classless children.
Any GS point value predictions for Jeff Cup?Elite OrangeElite BlackThanks!
Jefferson Cup projectionsChampionship = 10000 pointsElite Orange = 8150 pointsElite Black = 9000 points
For those NPL teams - the 4th team booked their spot at INDIANA 2015.OR#1 FC Portland Academy Pre ECNLFL#2 JFC Storm 01/02TN#2 FC ALLIANCE 02G NPLWA#13 MVP Marauders Navy 01looking forward to covering the Pre-ECNL, NPL and Region1 CL this spring.Most of the Region1 CL games were cancelled. Not sure if the below 2 were played will keep an eye on them.DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 GIRLSSOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACKSOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITElet's see how good South Shore is vs 2 PAGs teams.
Ok, but keep in perspective DE Rush was 2-4-2 in PAGS Div. 2. If they played, this should not have been a tough day for S.S.
Anybody know when PDA will announce their accepted teams lists for the Spring Kick-off?
4:53 So how is a PAGS D2 team in a higher flight than PAGS D1 teams? They must be better than what you said to qualify for D1?
Hardly, they seem to have placed the state cup champions in D1. But just because you are the best team in DE, or ME, WV, or VT for that matter doesn't mean you will be competitive against any of the top 5 or so teams from NYE, NJ, PAE, or NYE.
Sorry meant VA, NJ, PAE, or NYE
2 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK4 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITEWe have our first recorded league game.The region1 CL kicks off with South Shore going 1-0 and from the sound of it DE Rush will be a doormat. The funny thing is Region1 put the Delaware state champ from last year in D1 and the NYE State champion and region1 Defending Champion Sachem Speed in D2. Is this how teams outside the bubble are treated?
Reading y14 blog, sounds like Crush u14 team seams to be imploding...sad. Only 2 or 3 will have any chance of making pda or WCFC ecnl teams and they have to make move this spring before high school starts. I think the ones that leave early are the smart ones, I know it's hard, but if your D has it, move her sooner than later.
The Top 4 teams from the U14 thru U18 age groups in the New England NP will compete against the Top 4 teams from the NYCSL NPL. Teams will be competing to advance to the National Cup during this Crossover Cup Event.They should have asked EDP NPL and NorthEast Girls NPL with each league sending their 2nd and 3rd place teamsBased on Current StandingsBelow go to NPL finalsNYSCNEFCPDA NorthEDP ChampBelow go to crossover cupSTANJ CrushOakwoodSeacoastPDA AjaxMF NPLEDP 2ndEDP 3rdWould have made a much better Cup in my opinion.
6:57 stop stirring up trouble. I just checked out the u14 board and there is one post where someone claims to have seen a few crush u14s at WC practice. That is hardly reliable evidence that the team at u14 is imploding.
PDA Accepted Listhttp://www.pdasoccer.org/tournaments/pdaspringkickoff/600530.html
Top GroupCrew Juniors EliteEast Meadow HotshotzFC Virginia Pre ECNLMatch Fit Pre ECNLNEFCTophat 20 GoldUFA PremierWorld Class
No PDA Storm.Further evidence of separation of the ECNL team.Not even in their own tournament!
You just took the words right out of my mouth.
Yet 4 of those teams are ECNL. They aren't afraid to play!No, I said 3 months ago Storm wouldn't play their own tournament. Going 0-3 at your own tournament would be bad for recruitment. Still even I'm alittle surprised to be right.
10:48.If PdA loses a game. do you think that that would be the determining factor on recruitment.?Just curous?
They have bigger fish to fry.Coach is trying to build a national champion.
10:52A game no. But going winless like last year, on top of EDP and Eclipse this fall? How many top players are flocking to teams that never win anything? I just couldn't imagine my daughter enjoying that experience.10:55Same could be said of many ECNL teams, and dozens of teams that aren't, but no one else avoids top tournaments like this team/club. And if the performance at regionals last year is any indication, thats not a fish he's trying to fry, its a whale. You think FCV doesn't want a national championship? Yet there they are playing top teams, getting better with every tournament.No this club focuses on marketing which leads to recruitment which leads to their real objective $$$!Losing is bad for the bottom line, so they play as little as possible. Their incredible college placement will eventually bring in the top girls that the lack of player development and lack of winning don't. Too bad a lot of the current players won't be around to see it.
I'm curious what team your daughter is from 1134? Or is it that you are a coach somewhere? In either event, stop reaching for straws as you are making no sense. Focus on your team & we will do same with ours.
PDA Storm has NPL (Pre-ECNL) games scheduled those daysvs Fc Bucks & PennFusion.PS. In regards to FCV they have to travel to play top teams.The Northeast is loaded with top teams at this age group.Not many strong top teams in VA and MD at this age group.The rest of the PDA field with my best guess.U13 GirlsCFC U13 Girls Arsenal Orange CTCrew juniors elite OHEast Meadow Hotshotz NYFC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01 VAMatch Fit Pre ECNL NJNEFC SC United U13G MAWorld Class FC '0 NYTophat 20 Gold GAPDA Ajax NJSouth Shore Select U13 Elite MADragons NJMatch Fit NE NPL U13G NJUFA 02 Premier GAWeston FC U13 FLNew York Soccer Club Girls 2001 NYFC Bolts GU13-Green MATSF Academy 01/02G NJVictory Express SC Premier GU13 PAPA Crew Blue PAMatch Fit Black NJShore Fusion NJBeadling U13 Girls Red Team PACapital United U13 Blue Force NYAlbertson West NYAcademy Avalanche NJAlleycats Neko NYComets U13G NJFC Copa Academy Lima NJJersey Premier Soccer Flash NJLVU 01 Gold Girls PANEFC GU13 Central United MANJ Crush FC Tsunami White NJ
So called #1 girls program in the Nation and they won't even put their top team in the top bracket of their own tournament. Are they that afraid? Most of the teams who are entering that tournament have changed their schedules for that weekend. Why couldn't Storm? Losing my interest in this team.
The Northeast IS loaded with top teams, but PDA won't play most of them either. Guess thats why they go to Ill. and hide inside their bubble so no one can make an apples to apples comparison. And play against other NJ teams who they compete with for player pools, no way! But they never seem to miss a chance to claim how much better their program and teams are do they? HA! Oh, and you can keep those straws you think I'm reaching for, use them for your Kool-Aid.
7:57, good guess on the flights, but teams might move depending on how they do at Jeff Cup, would not be surprised if there is some movement.
The same thing is being said about PDA in the 14's, 15's 16's 17's.It appears they have same formula throughout the age groups.And all they keep doing is winning National championships and are ranked top Girls club in the country .i understand the grasping for straws but winning or losing in a tournament to other teams has no meaning for this club. Unlike the small clubs, their objective is on a different planet.I know as parents you want to say they are afraid but they just have no time for what you find important.unfortunately, that seems to be the truth and the rest is just grasping for straws.
They have 3 teams in this tournament already would you rather them put their 4th team and then we could read posts about how they shouldn't be in the top flight and the only reason they are in the top flight is because it's their tournament.OR if they put them in the 2nd flight then we would read they are avoiding all the top teams to rack up GS points.Which is it? Could they move their schedule around sure, it looks like they didn't so - what's the beef that top flight is Money - I out WC there but they will probably be a 2nd flight team - wasn't sure on the 8th team.
PS. SS could be 8th?0 DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 GIRLS 3 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITESouth Shore goes 2-0 with a 7-2 differential to start the RCL
There should be no excuses by PDA is not playing in their own tournament. Planning for future, pure BS. Just nervous about being shut out in their own back yard. If you are planning for the national picture, you first start with the local picture, and build from there. Beat everyone in your tournament, end that chapter and move on.
10:40PDA does whatever they wan to do. If you are a worthy opponent in the area, you will be invited to many scrimmages. If not you won't ever play this team again. You seem very upset that you won't get a chance to play this team.-Why?
"If you are a worthy opponent from the area"."Their objective is on a different planet".Do you guys really eat this stuff up?Shy then did your superior program/team not dominate these "lesser opponents". when you played them on the field.
10:51I am not upset because my daughter's team won't get a chance to play PDA, I believe that if you boast you are the best in the state, and have goals to be the best in the nation, you should first play and beat the best in your backyard, especially if your hosting the party. If I am the coach I want to play MF, Wildcats, etc, to test my team before league play.
**you'reboast about grammar
So who does PDA consider to be worthy opponents? Why only other PDA teams naturally. So Ajax dragons shore and the u 12 team? Really testing yourselves there aren't you? Feel free to correct me by telling me the other high caliber teams you guys test yourselves with the scrimmages.I guess with all those girls on your roster you could actually scrimmages your selves full sided. At least all your girls Will get to dress for a change that way. Yeah you guys are on another planet alright!
11:49 great stuff!Really enjoyed that, spot on.
11:49.Only worthy opponents in NJ is Matchfit.
One quick question to the posters killing Storm and PDA today.Do you think the below teams come to the PDA tournament to play Storm or to play the quality of teams this tournaments attracts? The top 2 flights will be very strong.F1CFC U13 Girls Arsenal Orange CTCrew juniors elite OHEast Meadow Hotshotz NYFC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01 VAMatch Fit Pre ECNL NJNEFC SC United U13G MAWeston FC U13 FLTophat 20 Gold GAF2PDA Ajax NJSouth Shore Select U13 Elite MADragons NJMatch Fit NE NPL U13G NJUFA 02 Premier GAWorld Class FC '01 NYNew York Soccer Club Girls 2001 NYFC Bolts GU13-Green MA
Some good gamesPDA F1??4 Crew juniors elite10 WORLD CLASS FC '019 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 0111 Tophat 20 Gold12 NEFC SC United U13G13 East Meadow Hotshotz40 UNITED FA UFA 02103 Match Fit Pre ECNL NJDelco F1???4 Crew Juniors Crew Juniors Elite9 FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 0112 NEFC Elite U13 Girls33 Boston Breakers Academy GU13 ECNL35 BRYC 01 ELITE37 CFC West Orange44 Tri-State FA Elite 0163 Penn Fusion SA '01G Pre-ECNLJefferson F18 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE9 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 0114 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH22 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK35 BRYC 01 ELITE38 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD 44 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 0163 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL
Let's turn this around... PDA Storm doesn't scrimmage anyone in their backyard (NJ, NY) because THEY aren't invited. and it's not because anyone is afraid of them... it's because the people running their club aren't liked by anyone.
i'd rather get a root canal than watch a game with the intolerable d-bag storm parents.. yeah I'm talking about you dad, who has to stand on the goal line and switch sides at half time.
Right now the top pre-encl team is MF.From what I understand there will be some quality players jumping to them.PDA encl teams better look out.The MF girls teams have excelled tremendously in the last few years. Colchesters dominated there age-group the last 5 years.
Not sure how that claim can be made right now? You would need to finish in first place in your league to make that claim. Right now MF is 3rd within striking distance. They have 11 games to change it.
Actually it's only the 10th and 11th games that will really matter. I love playoffs!
What coach in his right mind would scrimmage a team from PDA? Their coaches are just there to scout his players and steal his top talent. Talent many of these coaches have put their heart and soul into developing. JAGS anyone? It's this type of unethical BS that has made PDA so hated in the state.
Playoffs!!!! I hate playoffs :)
2:39 If PDA is the best and the parents that go there believe that.Why would any coach not want the best for their players if they want to leave?
Obviously the parents that leave perceive the PDA situation is better than where they are or why else would they go? Otherwise there should be no threat. Parents will go wherever they want. Each season it is a free market. There is always another program out there that might seem enticing so if there are any unhappy parents, they always have options. Its called America.
Girls in north certainly will go to World, not PDAThis is why PDA is starting a north facility/program. Sell the competition on switching.
Obviously the parents that leave believe"that PDA...........Billofgoods....defined
3:39I never said PDA was the best. That's a pretty subjective term, based on the individual goals of a player and her parents. Not every kids biggest dream in life is a partial scholarship to play soccer at Rutgers.Surprising(actually not) how quickly people defend the practice of coaches recruiting off of other teams active rosters, an unethical practice so frowned upon it could result in a coach losing his license.Often these coaches promise the moon and stars to players/parents, starting position, playing time, college connections, reduced or no club fees, etc. to get them to defect. By the time they realize half of that was just B.S. they've already burnt the bridge. And let's not forget, many players and sometimes entire teams also leave PDA every year as well. They obviously view the situation elsewhere to be better too, works both ways. And 2:02 is right, while PDA has spent years developing bad blood with most of NJ,MF has been developing positive relationships with surrounding clubs. PDA is living off a reputation they earned years ago when they held an all but monopoly on well educated coaches and quality facilities. Not the case anymore.
Why are you missing the biggest topic here.Does this blog believe PDA will not have one PDA team in top bracket in their own tournament? I think not, PDA Ajax will occupy this spot PEOPLE
Even when they go 0-3 at Jeff? Glad I'm not driving 300 miles to play PDA's B team. Or will it be mostly Storm players while the Ajax girls ride the bench?
4:48Pda was just ranked top girl program in country and the same coach of the storm has won 3 consecutive national titles. What are you talking about. Living on past reputation. I guess this is true if the past is six months ago. Another idiot seeing what sticks on the wall.
Ajax is flighted lower in every top tournament after their debacle at Jeff Cup last spring(0-3 outscored 10-1).If pda puts them in top flight it will be another travesty and hurt their brand with those who come from far to play at pda tourney.
Am curious - MF or Wildcats, lets use those clubs as examples. How many national championships for girls in any age bracket last 5 years have you won? Stop the nonsense.
5:28There are like 7-8 national championships now right? I assume you mean ECNL. In the last 5 years I see 1 team won back to back. No other PDA team has had that success since And those girls are in college now right? And who ranked them "best" and on what criteria? Best at expanding the sport by providing quality soccer training to as many kids as possible regardless of income? Best at providing these girls with a positive experience they will look back on and cherish? Best at developing top quality national team caliber players? Best at developing teams who can be successful on a national stage? Or best at recruiting quality players developed by other programs, many who already have made reg/nat team or have college commitments, and then using them as marketing tools to recruit the next batch of fat wallet suckers, um I mean well meaning parents? Again, " best" is subjective.
We have won 0 titles but at least we have something to strive for.
didn't MF win NPL Championship last year?
yep you're right perhaps your team and club are. Highly ranked in all you describe. Tell me what team and club you represent. I would like to do a head to head comparison.
Of coarse no club is the "best" at everything. That's the point, it's a redicullous title! Every kid is different and what club fits them best varies. It's just most of us aren't on here claiming our kids team is on some different level than everyone else. What a joke.And by the way, our club hasn't won a national title either, but at least all our kids play every weekend.
5:55. You are right. PDAS is best at all of those. Both good and bad.
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