PF wants so bad to be like PDA.
10:25 You are spot on PF wanting to be like the PDA of PA but there only can be one PDA and they have been doing it and evolving with the changes for years. Bottom line they have the highest % of players playing in college v any club in the region.
PF doesn't have near the resources that PDA has.Recruit and boot.
The only way PF could be close to PDA is if CFC and PF merged.
1124 You never know USSF may ask a few clubs merge when GDA is established to minimize exposure locations to visit. I can see that happening as well for MF and World Class.
11:24... you are out of your mind with the MF and World Class suggestion... but i guess you never know.
Did clubs merge with the boy's DA. Not an insider but the info on the girl's DA seems to mirror many elements of the boys side. Obviously many differences,most notable being that many of the Boys DA clubs are no cost to the player and that is not the plan on the Girl's side.
Regarding the DA... if a non-MLS DA is providing reduced fees for their Boys DA. Will they need to provide the same reduced fee for the girls DA? I know that initially the plan was not for the girls DA to be funded, however it may open up clubs to discrimination lawsuits. Especially clubs that are not MLS funded. This has to be a major headache for clubs trying to figure out what to do and how to pay for it. Consolidation may be the only way that clubs can afford it.
Is it discrimination? Don't know but the boys and girls environment is very unequal so do the youth players have to be treated equally. There is money to be made from boys talented enough to go pro. That is simply not the case on the girl's side. On the girl's side, the money comes from the player's families.
I guess that's why PF is 3500 trying to bank now knowing DA will fall in line next year and coaches pay will be reduced.
Currently, there is no domestic training compensation or solidarity fees for youth clubs that develop MLS players. But I think they are working on it. So right now... it doesn't matter if a club is developing a male or female. They get nothing (expect for what the parent's pay).Remember the DeAndre Yedlin situation where Tottenham paid a fee and the MLS took the whole thing... Crossfire (his youth club) claims they were owed $60,000 in the deal. MLS kept it all. Not sure what the current status of this is?
@9:29 AM Spot on! No one knows what will be happening with any club, at any age group, in any state. Rankings, points, etc will not matter. It's a clean slate for all.
The Girl's DA FAQs seem to indicate reduced fees be made to families with financial need. Sounds just like the ECNL which always claims the same. Not a good environment for lower or middle income players.
No way GDA will be $3500! That's just a greedy club right there. GDA will be under $2000.
3500 for a year that begins in late Fall as opposed to late summer? or does that include a Fall season too?
No fall season, girls will be playing HS.Season starts in Nov.
Yes U15 - U19 start late Nov. and carry into June. So that leaves 3 or 4 months of no club soccer (Jul, Aug, 1/2 Dec, 1/2 Jan, many cancelled Feb. sessions due to weather). So a player goes from 10 months of club soccer to 8 months and the cost almost doubles that makes no sense. Hopefully GDA fixes this as they perceive to say and are correct that there are many players missed because of the pay to play system. No wonder why GDA did not want anything to do with ECNL.
Dear God, please make this person stop.
201 Seems like a lot of disgruntled parents on here today because of PF tryouts. I'm sure the folks that were selected have no complaints of the cost.
that was no try out that was a scrimmage for the new team.
Hate to say this but if you have been paying attn to what was being said on this blog, not only this spring but last, you would have expected that. For the 01's both CFC & PF have their first tryout next Monday night. Choose wisely!
if the kid made the team, 'wise investment'. kid doesn't make team, 'too much money, koolaid, corrupt conspiracy'
Enough with PA - PDA tryouts were this past week for 02's as well and they are not getting slammed glad this just shows the amount of angry parents in PA.
1:53U15-U19 usually have one session a week during the high school seasonJust an FYI
Everyone must have the next Alex Morgan out there if that's a wise investment.
2:36 - If you kid is playing HS how can they make even 1 session a week? HS is everyday and sometimes not right after school.
Everyone already knows about the shady "back room deals" at PDA, but people are surprised it's happening at other clubs now as well.
250 there is NO hidden back room deals at PDA they will be upfront with players/parents right away but everyone pays there dues. PDA tryouts were still mix they didn't group selected players together
Sometimes you just have to stop and enjoy the experience. Its only going to happen once for me, and I am very grateful to the wonderful and supportive parents on our team. We have had our ups and downs, but I know that my daughter is training with one of the best clubs in this area, and she has become a very solid footballer.
355 Thanks coach for the inspiration no parent in the U.S. calls in their daughter a "footballer" that's a direct give away.
You need get out and meet some of the pretentious parents.
4:05, I was a coach once, does AYSO count?4:25, not sure what you mean, are you calling me pretentious?Sorry that my post was too positive for this shit-bag group...
@3:55 you do understand you can find great training without spending that type of money right? If you are wealthy then I'm sure you don't care but most understand what real purpose that kind of money can have. College savings to give just one example. 4 years of ECNL alone will cost you $40K. Think about it. Time goes fast and most these kids will have careers that don't involve a soccer field.
Just stop lying I know players from PDA who got deals to go there.Do you PDA people ever stop lying?
I have no idea if you are pretentious and I completely agree with stop and enjoy the experience. You did not leave it at that, you added your player is "training with one of the best clubs in the area". I don't know, maybe you are very humble.
5:02. I agree. I know people that went to PDA who got a reduced price to go there. That is because their parents made less than $65,000 per year and were eligible for financial aid. How dare they!
Good for them. If u make $66,000 oh well. High level youth sports is for the well off and for a few low income players that can get some assistance. Good thing there are lower cost clubs to serve most players in spite of the abuse they suffer on forums.
So who pays for the travel expenses(flight, hotel, food) for the unfortunate. I call BS on all that, didn't I read someone posting before you never hear a rags to riches story in the soccer world comparable to other sports.
If a couple thousand dollars is that big of a deal, you shouldn't be spending your time on a forum whining about it, you should be spending your time looking for a better paying/supplemental income.
My thoughts exactly, 7:33.Although I do appreciate everyone's concern that I am not getting full value out of my youth soccer dollar. It's very sweet.
Its not your dollar anyone cares about its a fascination factor with how much people are willing to pay for youth soccer.
Do you really want to be on a team with a parent/soccer club big wig like 7:33? And there are plenty more where he/she came from.
On a team with parents that don't whine about money? Or, more accurately, don't whine about other peoples' money? Sign me up!
Its called the ECNL. (and soon Girls DAP) Enjoy!
Any NJ Cup predictions? My guess Wildcats vs PDA final, PDA wins
They made much more than 65K. Please stop lying PDA., We all know it is used as a recruiting tool.
MFA made a nice hire today, Christie Welsh.
What?? She was not ECNL. How can she be any good?
9:08 I think Berna makes a run for it but PDA might get them in the finals.
9:32 I just checked the brackets to see who is left and Berna is not even in state cup anymore, you better predict differently lol. My guess PDA all the way! But do see BOCA was able to get into semifinals here too (also in open cup semis) which is impressive. Seems like they are on a run so I'm predicting them as finalists but they fall to Ajax in finals.
BOCA cannot lose right now, impressive yes 1-0 in pouring rain and under lights. PDA, and two Wild Cats left, plus NJCSA. I don't know about this Samba team, does anyone know them? I would think with two cats left, NJCSA and PDA, it will be interesting with those 4 in the mix. NJCSA or Galaxy cats will fall on 5/2, then once final 4 is set it can be interesting. Lets say Samba wins, somehow, doubtful, but you never know, again I know nothing about Samba. Then Boca can beat Samba? Go to finals versus PDA or NJCSA I would think. If, if, if. We will be done with this in next 10 days. Some great soccer coming up.
10:02 obvious BOCA parent, what do you see happening to your team with the age group change next year?
Nothing. They are all 02s except 3 (one is an 03 so lose 2)
So hard to tell NJ bloggers are back on here....Insults galore...
That explains a lot 10:26. Squad is just too young.Boca may do very well as U15s but cannot hang with the best as the division is now.Best of luck to you.
What will MF have left if some players leaving to WC and some to PDA!
Ajax two forfeits away from the cup. Will they hang on?.....
What do you care what MF, WC, or PDA have or doesn't have? sounds a lot like sour grapes.....
It's amazing what Match Fit ECNL has done at U14 after this forum had called so loudly for their underachievement.
when you ask about MF, are you talking about the 01s or the 02s.... with that said, and consistent with a post from yesterday, unless you know what 01s are staying or leaving, what 02s are staying or leaving, who they are adding to both age groups, and the addition by subtraction concept, how can anyone predict anything? and i agree with 9:48.... who cares.
10:26 Do you know what team the 01 Boca mommies are headed too?
Did you check out the 2 new leaders of Girls side at Cedar Stars/NJCSA tryouts. Both have been with just about every club around and shelf life is 1-2 years at each stop.It's like a comedy team 1 of them lies and the other swears to it.The 1 just got fired again this time from Atlantic Club and again left under a cloud. I give this partnership 6 months tops to blow up.
@9:12 what do you mean too young? The whole team is only 02 and beating teams that have 01 and 02, and beating the best teams in the state this season. At quarterfinals for Open Cup and US Club. I am even more impressed once I hear that the whole team is 02. And I cannot believe the played last night in that rain, but soccer must go on.
Word is the current U14 NJCSA Elite Team is staying together and moving out of NJCSA/Cedar Stars Club, possibly back to Manalapan. Not sure if they will keep teams 2001 and 2002's together and play up as 2001 Team or just move forward with a 2002 Team. Didn't see even 1 of NJCSA Elites players at Cedar Stars tryouts for next years 2002 NPL Team. Also heard they might be combining their 2002's with Boca 2002's.
11:33 I am not 9:12 but may have read that post differently than you. I think what he saying is that they will be stronger next year playing against other teams that are all 02s. They are young this year in comparison to other U14 teams that are largely 01s and that shows in consistency. From posts several weeks ago they also have two 2003s playing up so yes they are young this season. Don't think it was meant as a knock against them so relax a little lol. Remember they struggled significantly at regionals vs top teams last year. And still drop to lower level teams sometimes as well. But the fact that they stay together and are "younger" will be beneficial to them going forward.
Thanks, 11:40That is exactly what I meantAnd frankly I dont see ANY top wins since they beat Manalapan in May 2015. They just dont play that type scheduleTSF? Maybe.
How did the SJEB Rush tryout go ? I heard last night there were no sign in sheet and no tryout number given out. I guess they already know who they want? hmmmmm There is another day May 3 for the 4th tryout. I guess I won't be taking my daughter there. I also heard Real coach is now SJEB asst coach, I guess his girls get first dibs at a spot. I thought the merger brings SJEB and Rush girls together, not Real Club.
I think they are combing the 3 of them now so they can be sure someone will bring the coaching credentials to the games. They have it covered.
To much going on in SJ area PDA South tryouts are tonight let's see how many show up interested flocking from other clubs.
I think 11:33 was referring to NJCSA Elite staying together and moving out of their new cedars Stars operation/club and back to Manalapan, not Boca.
There are two 11:33 posts, chap
12:13 Good one !!!!
@11:47 boca has a while to go of course. I do not think TSF win was a big deal, TSF has been declining. I would say their wins against NJCSA, FC Berna and STA in state cup are impressive this season. The CFC npl club tie in VA was also nice. And I see GPS in there twice in last year that they beat. And what can you say about PDA shore except they beat them twice last season. Is it true boca and njcsa may be combining top players? That could create a great team I think?
@12:01 Really, no sign in sheet, no numbers? Real is up and coming at this age group? NJ Rush is good team, with many teams (I think 3 teams at U14?) The merger should work well for all in South Jersey
Don't many of you realize that with the BYC many of the clubs already know who to pull back into their top teams within the clubs. The change is impact teams within the club and most of these top clubs will only pull in a few player from outside no need to move out players if they have not proven themselves in the new age change group yet.
9:48/11:09 you both care because your team is crumbling around you. We all have to accept that were staying or leaving and deal with the cards were given. Time will tell how the other local ECNL clubs will benefit from the crash up north. In the end we want our kids to be in the best position to succeed and even more important enjoy the entire journey. And that includes the parents being around other parents on the sidelines that aren't cancerous.
I just got wind of the tornado at Match Fit. Mass Exit in 2003, 2002 and 2001s age group.
5:02 - Not sure what your agenda is, but it is apparent. From everything I really know and hear that politics goes on at all clubs, it's the same everywhere. And if a parent decides to take their kid off a very successful program because of the politics, or what the have read here, you'll surely be walking into your own sh!t storm on a weaker team.Additionally, It's pretty sad when a deposed coach trashes a club for months that he's poaching from. It's so obvious and shallow. Do yourself a favor and stop making yourself look stupid, you're already untrustworthy.
Someone struck a chord there. It's all good my friend. Don't be so angry. It's just a blog. The kids will all be good. Go Trump!
I'm not naming my club or year but it's not the coach complaining. The club is falling apart and parents like myself are just upset at how they were scammed. Believe what you want but just beware that there are car salesman and there are snake oil salesman. You pick who you want your daughter to play for.
Same guys at Cedar Starts/NJCSA now. Snake oil salesman.Buyer beware there as well.
Its a beautiful day for soccer, so go out and enjoy with your child. Be positive, be encouraging, and set an example for others to follow. Good luck to all, play hard, play fair, and as you are watching her today, take a moment to be grateful.
Only one worse. Hillary.
MFA emerges from these changes stronger as a club. Understandable that some parents are unhappy about some of the changes, but that is life. Will they lose some kids and maybe not be as strong over the next couple of years, maybe. You know how many good soccer players there are in this state, lots? They are stronger as a club already because of the changes they have made.
11:09 Which is worse? A club that is doing a little scheming and scamming to get players to join? Or a club like PL that simply doesn't care and not one player is returning as an o2 or 01?
Neither! If those are my only options, I'm out!
Go Trump! His oldest daughter is an awesome role model! Hillary is a horrible role model!
What are Final Four Matchups for NJ Cup? Anyone have scores for NJCSA vs Galaxy or Wildcats vs Samba? I believe Boca and PDA Ajax are already through to semifinals.
NJ Wildcats Averbuch won 3 - 0 over Samba Friday night in quarters. Don't think Galaxy played NJCSA yet in other quarterfinal.
Are we seriously even mentioning the term "role model" in the same sentence with politicians? Stop being silly and stick to soccer talk. I'd rather have a conversation full of bad spelling and grammar with the Spell Check Nazi. Now there's a real role model.
Please stop with the politics and get back to Trashing MF.it's tough being on top.
Not role model. Representative. No business representing my young female athletes Embarrassing that it is even a possibility.
Yea Trump!Boo MF!Happy now! Plotics and soccer!
Spelling Correction- politics
9:01 Thanks, I think. We should go out for a few drinks... we may have already.. who knows?
NJ state cup Boca versus wild bunch 11am this Saturday. Cats should win, but something is going on with Boca and I believe they only have one loss all season in two cup play and 2nd division. Galaxy to play Wall. Galaxy should win, but Wall seems to be playing well and depending on what teams show up tomorrow we will have a galaxy versus Ajax at 11am next Saturday?
Where do you get Galaxy playing Wall? The schedule shows them playing NJCSA Elite-Manalapan. Is that the team you are calling Wall or is the posted schedule wrong?And does anyone know where/what time that game is being played?
watch an see mf downfall pda will be the ones on to nationals
It will be tough with only 3 games left and 6 points separating them
So both teams won today?
PAC defeats PL in state cup semi final today.
2:19, is that US Club State Cup or USYS?
No one in PA plays US Club
That team sure isnt going out in style in any way, shape, or form! So much for that "legacy."
Lot of teams check out when there is going to be a lot of moving around.
Yeah, look at MF.
All teams are changing. I doubt most are checking out.
Only the ones whose players are going to different clubs.
The girls have not checked out, coach has.
Players ultimately control the game. A great team consists of a solid bench and players able to play various positions. If you can't say that about your kids team then she's not on a great team.
With PL now out of state cup and not in RCL playoffs the season and team is pretty much over. Where is everyone going? I've heard the goalkeeper is going to PF. How many others? Any going to PAC or CFC?
You sound like a PL parent 6:11. Thanks for the update.
unless the bench players receive adequate playing time, they're not going to stay good players for too long.
3 midfielders/forwards, 1 center back and keeper all going to PF from PL. All got spots offered late February-early March.... Multiple others are headed PAC way from PL
Quite a statement about what parents think of the direction of the club itself, when not one player is returning out of 16. Must have been that "no practicing set pieces" directive that was issued.
6:58 is talking about 02's not 01s
PF better prepare to practice finishing with those pl mids/forwards. Scoring seems to be a problem for them.
Yes, njcsa playing Galaxy tomorrow night, made mistake, not Wall. it is us club state cup
Yes wall only remains in EDP Open cup
PL 01 and PF players to PAC FYI
So Penn Fusion is losing '01 players to PA Classics? '01s from the current U14 team or U15 team?
PF is losing some 02s from the 01 team to PAC, who still plays in PAGS
PAC is PA's obvious choice to get the DA.
02s from the U14 team playing up with U15 (I know of one) or 02s from the u13 team playing up with the u14 team (I know of one)?
9:20Exactly A little thinking ahead
More like you know (nothing.) Have to love false information on here.
8:28 The next time the PL mids and forwards practice finishing, will also be the first time. Anyone that watched that State Cup semifinal today got to see a great game of kickball between the two teams.
9:25...you're saying both?
3:22pmwhat's going on at Match Fit?
9:30 Huge for how long?as a parent this club is a disaster
former coach left to coach at another club, all players following him that he had ties to.
9:37 helping to fill that big ecnl roster. The coaches vacation..I mean travel expenses need paid somehow. Of coarse they are all superstars. Well until tryouts are over.
Eastern Development Program - NPL DivisionNorthG-W-T-L-F -A (PTS)2-1-0-1-10-4 (3) NJCSA ELITE2-1-0-1-10-6 (3) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL1-0-0-1-2-3 (0) ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL1-0-0-1-2-8 (0) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G1-0-0-1-0-7 (0) JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPLSouthG-W-T-L-F -A (PTS)2-2-0-0-6-0 (6) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS3-2-0-1-8-6 (6) NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE2-1-0-1-4-5 (3) SJEB '01G NPL2-1-0-1-2-5 (3) FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMAWith top two teams advancing tothe EDP NPL post season getting interesting fast who will book their flight toDenver? NJCSA, NJ Wildcats, LVU, NJ Rush.
Appears the PL parents are in disarray as well as the team.
Wow,, what is going on here? I seem to have missed a lot
Admin must be 1776...
Have to admit, the biting part was funny, but he was probably referring to another 1776 legend.
George Washington Suarez?
The Elite Clubs National League U14 Northeast Conference has come down to a race for 2 teams in the Metro Division with East Meadow needing just 1 point to clinch. PennFusion was considered a darkhorse by some on this board until they played Storm. I saw the score but didn't read any posts about the score. My guess is that it wasn't much of a game - so PDA had nothing to say and PennFusion had nothing to defend. MatchFit controls their destiny all they need are 2 wins out of 3 if PDA runs the tableMetro Division41 (19) Match Fit Academy ECNL U1437 (19) PDA ECNL U14New England DivisionEast Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14
Thanks for the update Hotshotz Dad!
Winner of the race gets to spend another 2k on a trip to SD with a team that will be splitting in half.The loser gets to move on to their new team. Which is better?
Only $2K? You must've gotten some good deals. I came home with $3K less to my name lol.
12:39 - spot on. save the cash for next year.
I think I'll save it for her college tuition.
A forced vacation in CA is always better than VA or MD or MA - we are going to pay the tuitions anyway -travel soccer = $$$$$. So why not stay an extra couple of days and make it a vaction as well? Oh yeah you would rather spend that money on yourself who you kidding with the save that money
Better hope those games are early morning ones and not mid afternoon if you plan to do anything else.
Why is the blog administrator deleting all the posts which weren't bad?
What were they?
Anyone care to fill us in what was deleted?
They were not bad but had a coaches initials. Would imagine that's why. They were talking about a national coach who joined the PAC staff.
Anyone at PF 01 tryouts tonight?
Former coach is the blog administrator.
NJ state cup. Galaxy versus Ajax. Boca versus Averbuch. In the end the best 4 teams are there that entered. NJCSA has lost much this spring. I believe missing injured keeper and other injury. I am pretty sure you will see Ajax verse Averbuch on Mother's Day. Either way congrats to all 4 teams. You could have a cats verse cats also. Monopoly type of thing. Have to hand it to boca, getting relegated to D 2 then making it to semi finals in both Edp open and state cup. But once you breach the top 5 in PA NY or NJ that is really great teams. The 6-12 spots drop dramatically in higher level play mostly due to lack of bench.
10:50From which club?
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