http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/assets/1/15/US%20Youth%20Soccer%20Birth%20Year%20and%20Season%20Matrix.pdflast week US Soccer updated/changed the Age Group Matrix for birth year. Now instead of a 2002 being U14 next year, they will be U15. They are saying that the original matrix was never wrong - you were just supposed to look at the year listed as the year the season ends. WHAT?!?!Why do they keep changing this? I guess it may make more sense than the original birth year matrix and it now lines up with what U-whatever ODP calls teams. This is a cluster.
You should come watch that NYSC team play, I think your kids would take notes on how development soccer is supposed to be taught.They may not win every game, but those kids can flat out play this beautiful game.
Has PDA storm ever played NYSC?Sounds like it would be a good exhibition of soccer.
11:49 wasn't I say that all along - the 2001s lose a year as they skip u15 and move to u16 while the 2002s move to u15? this is exactly what ODP does and the rest of the world.GS 4 life
10:54By next year at this time your club president will be residing over the largest rec club in central PA and he will never have to worry about got soccer points again. PA Classics and Penn Fusion thank both him and the board for their total lack of insight.
I thought edp open cup went to regional, I thought I read that somewhere, perhaps I am mistaken. GPS showing they are well trained no doubt. Now what is this with the birth year change by US CLub? Help?? this is why I come on this blog for information that matters, not to hear about hot moms from boca. thank you
12:12 As parents we have had multiple discussions on the clubs insight, and or lack of it. There are many things that PL does that parents appreciate, such as no guest players and no additional players at practices. On the other hand, they almost find a winning team a bother to them and in some ways goes against their program policy (almost a socialistic view). You may be right about next year, but parents often claim they'll do many things and then go in a different direction at the last moment (present company included). PL Parent
11:49, what's the issue with it? It will minimize the amount of Freshmen players trying to juggle club and HS ball.
Agree with 10:45. And please parents take responsibility for putting your daughter in this unhappy situation and don't blame PDA.They certainly wil take your dues if you are stupid enough to keep writing checks for your daughter to be demoralized and lose her confidence and belief that she is a good soccer player. If she is good enough to play regularly and earn good time or start then great situation, if not then you are subjecting her to child abuse and it is all about your ego and your child will pay the price in the long run.As 10:39 says, "The others learn by watching the better players play and show them how it's done". What happened to watching the Pros show our kids how it's done by watching games on TV and in person and then going out and trying what they learned in their own games?Now they don't play at all and are supposedly learning by watching their "better" teammates play?
And if I'm wrong then you won't see the Shills coming right back on blog trying to defend the indefensible and protect the new Golden Goose(parents who will pay full cost for their child being a practice player and occasionaly dressing and then only playing very limited minutes in less important events).
119 Sometimes failure leads to success! And sometime parents just want to know now if or not they need to continue spending the time and money.
I can't imagine anyone paying for their kid to be a practice cone so the good players have someone to train against. The only thing that this kind of "development" produces is the development of self esteem issues. Not sure if I missed a memo, but I thought we were supposed to avoid that sort of thing with young girls. Just my 2 cents.
I agree having 25 roster and 8 pretty much sitting and watch is not development it s $$$ grab. I hope parents realize things and not put there child through that type of agony and find a team where she will can play and become long time friends.
"I agree having 25 roster and 8 pretty much sitting and watch is not development it s $$$ grab. I hope parents realize things and not put there child through that type of agony and find a team where she will can play and become long time friends."I'm surprised this never comes up when discussing roster sizes, but has anyone ever bothered to look to see if any of the 25 players are also rostered on the B team? My daughter's ECNL team has a roster of 24, but six of the players are actually from the B team and are dual rostered in order to have then available for ECNL games when injuries to the 18 "ECNL only" players make it necessary. These six B team players also practice once a week with the ECNL team (in addition to the two times a week they also practice with their regular team).I find it hard to imagine that a team is collecting money from certain players and then those players never suit up for a game. They are probably playing on the B team.
The 24 players are all ecnl players.Yes it's stupid. And yes not all players are subject to the same scrutiny.
Guaranteed that there are a dozen or so Dads between MatchFit and PDA ECNL U14 teams who 1 year ago when their child was consistently dressing and playing at least 1/2 of every game were defending the larger rosters and extolling ECNL as the best option for all players interested in playing in college are now walking around in a daze wondering how their talented and once confident young soccer playing daughter is now so demoralized and lacking in self confidence that in the few instances when she is allowed on the field to make a cameo appearance in a minor event she is tentative, tight, looking over her shoulder for the ineveitable "hook" and unable to perform at more than a shell of her former level.I'm sure Stanford, princeton and Notre Dame coaches will understand when she invites them to watch her perform at an ECNL event next year.That is if she is even chosen to dress because if she is not that will be a very difficult call for her to make to that coach to try and explain why the coach will not see her playing that weekend.
Was so close could have went either way. I like PDA's style and passing better, but I would say match fit had better scoring chances and possibly more chances. There two goals scored by the same girl who did it pretty much on her own and who played for match fit last season. I'm afraid if she is not in the game it's a one Goal game the other way. What I find interesting is how they play against other good teams. How was the world class, PDA game so close when match fit crush them 4 0.. match fit played East Meadow to a draw they seem to have serious issues with the breakers. I think it has a lot to do with matchups. Match fit has very fast wings, but they will never outrun PDA's defenders. Match fit really needs to be able to go with other options like attack from outside or go forward with numbers. When they got across pass off it seem like no one is there to receive it and at the other end players up front are right where they should be. Can't wait till their next match, good luck to both teams
You sound like you hate the ecnl. As stated before somehow this money making scam has gotten parents hook line and sinker. It's unfortunate for all those affected but all they have to do is say no. Soccer Nut
No one hates ECNL.It seems to be working pretty fairly in Penn and Mass.It's just the way the NJ clubs are handling it that uses players and their families to increase $$ at the families and players expense.
100 percent agree. Soccer Nut.
How great of a team could you PA people have if the top girls from Lancaster county all just played for PAC next year. It's a quality club, DA or no DA (yet TBD) Tell me if top girls from that county played together instead of splitting between PF, PL, PAC and even PU that wouldn't be a NEFC type team.
No, because none of the players have true talent, the natural ability to think about the game as it happens.
338 That would be an ideal team but to many parents are chasing the US National dream and ECNL dream of playing D1. I'm sure having a top team like that attending high level tournaments like CASL, Jeff, Disney Etc gives the same amount of exposure plus the entertainment value of competing in state cup, regional and national events. Makes you wonder sometimes doesn't it. I agree with the poster from a few days ago about marketing schema.
1:52 Which club are you from?Reason for asking, if your club plays in the NE NPL. you are only allowed 4 swing players the whole year.
Most EPA ECNL teams have a few girls from Lancaster county and/or Delaware and/or MD and/or NJ. You need to get over this little lancaster county fantasy bud.
When will Wildcats Galaxy go back to Mosa?? I thinking next Fall.
True 4:02 the "bench/practice" players from jStorm for the most part are not getting a chance to perform in games with Dragons or Ajax.They are just like the JV Team for Storm real players to train against.
Since we are so concerned about how other people's daughters are negatively impacted based on their playing time I have a request. My daughter is a goalie. I would appreciate it if other teams do not cheer and celebrate when a goal is scored against her. Please remain silent, I fear the cheering will cause her to lose confidence in her next save opportunity.
Well my daughter is a striker. When your daughter makes a save on her and you cheer, it coats me $2000 in sports psychological therapy.
Ok with the age criteria set to kick off next fall, I was curious of the current U14ECNL rosters and each Birth Year, will the change cause a power shift between teams come at U15. I did a comparison for NJ & NY teams added the PA teams as well for my research this is based on what was pulled on ECNL website as MF is not updated just used current roster.Club U14 ECNL 01's 02's Roster #'s Fall/2015 PDA U14: 15 9 24 Match Fit U14: 11 11 22 World Class U14: 11 7 18 East Meadow U14: 7 12 19 Albertson U14: 9 15 24 Penn Fusion U14: 13 5 18 CFC Delco U14: 7 11 18 FC Bucks U14: 13 3 16
3:38 We have talked about that recently. Not sure what the tryout numbers are for most teams, but PL averages between 45-55 per age group. I'm sure PAC must average something similar since they are also running an "A" and "B" team. I think Penn United gets between 25 and 35, although that could be a low number. You would be talking about close to 120 to a 130 players coming out to make one team. Its always pretty easy to select the first 10 players, but there would be some serious competition for those final 8 spots. And some seriously pissed off parents that daughters were 19 through 25. I don't know if it would be NEFC quality, it would take the training and ability of committed coaches to make it so. What you mentioned just may happen this spring, although it will be interesting to see who makes the trip to PF (first they have to make the team). Congrats to PF. It seems they have solidified their team and are playing well and the players they picked up must be solid contributors. PL Parent
My daughter is a bench warmer. We seldom get to cheer but when we do we cheer the loudest.
4:59, dude you are my hero.
Total respect for 4:59; again thanks for paying for part of my daughter's tuition. j/k - Best of Luck to you hopefully she will end up coaching herself one day from watching and learning all those game hours.
BOCA moms got it going on! Best environment in the state. No doubt. Might not win everything but the girls are stoked, moms are hot and the coaching/training is on par with anywhere else
We played Boca, and I did not see any hot Mom’s, however there were some hot Grandma’s!
Hey hey, nothing wrong with gramma being hot and having her wrap those jiggly arms around you.
Thanks 4:44 but that's only half the story.PDA 2001 U13 = 10 U14 = 92002u14 = 15U15 = 7Match Fit 2001U14 = 11U15 = 112002U13 = 8u14 = 11World Class 2001U14 = 11U15 = 102002U13U14 = 7East Meadow 2001U14 = 7U15 = 9U14 = 12U13 = 7Albertson2001 U14 = 9U15 = unavailable2002U13 = 9U14 = 15Penn Fusion 2001U14 = 13U15 = 92002U13 = 7U14 = 5u15 = 1CFC Delco2001 U14 = 7U15 = 72002U14 = 11U13 = 9FC Bucks 2001U14 = 13U15 = 8 2002U13 = 10U14 = 3
CorrectionPDA 2002 U13 = 10 U14 = 92001u14 = 15U15 = 7
Or we can look at it this way between 13, 14 & 152001PDA = 22 MF = 22WC = 21EM = 16Alb = 9 (incomplete)PF = 22CFC = 14FC Bucks = 212002PDA = 19MF = 19WC = 7 (incomplete)EM = 19Alb = 24PF =13CFC = 20FC Bucks = 13
This is just ECNL teams
Nice info to know glad some people are doing the research for me as I plan trying To make a move come Spring if roster spots open up
I would take the bottom 18 PDA ECNL players over any ECNL team.
7:29, thanks Mom!
No moms needed. Would be the strongest ECNL team in NE.
For MF and East Meadow to have more than half the team younger they are competing well. I wonder is PF competing well because a larger pool of 01's on that u14 team. Thanks 444, 647 and 657 for the info.
PF is a .500 team.
Maybe so. But their wins are awesome!!
NJCSA Elite Destroys Wildcats Galaxy 5-0 Elite Advances. Lets hear Wildcats Excuses.
Must of been the same ref as EDP Cup!
To you your own words, "meaningless" win against the Wildcats Clubs B team.
2015-16 PDPsBoth the id2 Program and PDP have been granted Olympic Development Program status by the U.S. Soccer Federation and the US Olympic Committee.id2 Program staff are on-site at PDP events to scout players for potential inclusion in id2 Training Camps, and U.S. Soccer staff may also be on-site to scout players for potential U.S. National Team inclusion as well as conduct off-the-field lectures, seminars, coaching and other related discussions.US Club Soccer PDP, hosted by New York Club Soccer LeagueUS Club Soccer PDP, hosted by New England PremiershipUS Club Soccer PDP, hosted by Virginia NPLUS Club Soccer PDP, hosted by Gulf States Premier LeagueAdditionally, both the ECNL and NorCal Premier League, one of US Club Soccer’s NPLs, run expansive Player Development Programs for multiple age groupsECNL PDP - Northeast (Metro)ECNL PDP - Northeast (New England)
Congrats NJCSA Elite. The Galaxy team is the Wildcat A team. All Wildcat teams like to discard 5-0 losses as misleading.
7:29/7:52, knock it off we would not dominate.
Yes they would. I have seen them play and my daughter is not on the team. They beat PF with those girls. Easily.
My daughter is on the team. We would not dominate. We don't dominate now.
What was the score of that easy win over PF? Not many teams get easy wins anymore against them.
9:13: If your daughter is not on the team, why are you watching them play PF?
Should've only been 1-0 win to be honest if you saw the game.
You honestly think "curious" parents don't watch other teams play? Naive.
Against bottom 18.
All of a sudden it was not an easy win. Funny how that works when the truth comes out.
Easy win using the bottom 18. Was never close. Could have been 4-0
Only 18 players on most teams! What? Are you bragging about a roster of 24?
"Bottom 18." Are you for real dude? Stop while you're ahead.
11:40 You're talking about a 2-0 game where the second goal was gifted. Nevertheless a win is a win. Take it for that and stop with the nonsense.
Penn Fusion is lucky they are in a week division with WC, Bucks and CFC.They are no better than they were last year.
I think PF will need to roster more players to keep up with the other ECNL clubs. Next Fall would be a good time to implement rosters of 22-24 with the birth year change.
Congratulations NJCSA on a terrific win against the Wildcats Galaxy. 5 0 shutout! You were fantastic!
You know nothing, obviously. Whoever stated that no one has an easy game against them anymore is right.
6:45Yes! Definitely a great idea. Then they can be bashed like so many other ECNL teams for having half a team on the sidelines. smh
Congrats to NJCSA Elite for a Great Win against a Great Team. Neutral Refs so we cant blame it on th this time. I tip my hat to your girls and the coaching staff for a well played game. You guys came to win and we didnt. Excellent Ball movement. Congrats Good Luck in the Semi Finals.
Yes congrats to njcsa. Big win 5-0 and no goals from the girl that everyone believes should be playing ecnl. She controlled the middle of the field and distributed the ball around well. Also impressive game from your keeper
10:11 - I think stalkers without a lot going on in their lives watch other teams play. Get a life.
Why did PDA identify and send their worst 18 players to play an ECNL game?Do they have a policy where the 6 best players take a game off, even after going 0-1-1 to open the season?
Think about how idiotic it sounds to even say "the bottom 18" PDA is a top team in the US (admit it or not). Any girl on that team must be pretty damn good. Bottom 18... Ridiculous statement.
I think the poster was being tounge in cheek regarding those 18 players as the bottome 18. From what I have seen, there is a fine line between all of the players. None of them are bottom anything and are among the top players in NJ and the Region.
The way the poster said it makes it sound as if those girls are of a much lower quality. I'm sure he is a beloved parent on the sidelines!
1- PDA Storm2- MF ECNL3- PDA Dragons (2015 NPL Finals Semi-Finalist - 1st Place in league)4- STA (2015 NPL Finals - 2nd Place in league)5- Wildcats Averbuch (2015 NPL Finals - 1st place in EDP C)6 -NJ Crush (1st place in NYCSL NPL - best overall record)7- Wildcats Galaxy (WAGS F2 Champions but still in 3rd place in EDP N)8- MF NPL (2nd place in league okay at Stars pre-Season)9- PDA Ajax (3rd place in league - I'm close to dropping them)10 -TSF (If galaxy is in top 10 then the team in 1st place has to be also)Honorable mention both teams in NCS the further they go the quicker they jump in top 10 or wecan remove ECNL teams and we have our top 10.***Good job by 10/22 @ 4:42. Think this needs to be updated based on the last week.1. PDA Storm2. MF ECNL3. PDA North Dragons4. MF NPL (1-0 loss to Dragons)5. NJCSA Elite (5-0 win over Galaxy)6. STA NPL7. NJ Crush8. PDA South (Game vs MF NPL will tell where both teams are)9. GPS10. Wildcat Galaxy
Thanks for showing off the Top 10 teams once again in NJ. Sorry to say but you NJ folks need to understand it's regionally based now at this age. Who are the Top 10 teams in the region.
651 exactly WHO knows nothing? Please be more specific
TSF has to be on par with NJCSA, GPS, and Wildcat Galaxy. They are at the top of the table in a division with all those teams in it having conceded only 2 goals all season.
10:13 Impressive list just shows how strong other teams are in the area, and I also agree we should be looking at the regional level or at least the NY, NJ, PA area not Top NJ teams, but if the NJ guys want to brag let them. I would actually switch PDA with FC Virginia and Penn Fusion with East Meadow.
PF should not be on the list
This is my attempt - 10:13 it looks like you have some knowledge of MD & VA or anyone else please add to my NJ/NY/PA attempt. Regional (NY/NJ/PA)1. East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14 (tied MF, beat PDA,ALBECNL)2. PDA ECNL U14 (beat MF, STA lost EM)3. Match Fit Academy ECNL U14(lost PDAECNL)4. PL (beat NJ Wildcats, PA NCS Champ))5. Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14(Lost MFECNL,lost PDAECNL, beat ALBECNL,NJ Wildcats)6. PDA North Dragons (beat MFNPL, beat PFNPL)7. MF NPL (beat ALBECNL, lost PDANORTH)8. Albertson Fury ECNL U14 (tied MFECNL,PDAECNL,PFNPL lost EM,YMS)9. PFNPL (beat YMS, tied ALBECNL, lost PDANorth, PFECNL)10. STA NPL (lost Galaxy, PDAECNL, beat NJCSA, NYSC)11. NJCSA Elite (beat Galaxy, beat NYSC)12. Wildcat Galaxy (lost NJCSA, beat STA)13. YMS (lost Galaxy, lost PFNPL, beat ALBECNL)14. PAC (beat Ajax)15. 1776 (tied Ajax)16. PDA South (tied 1776, lost PAC)17. NJ Wildcats (lost PL, lost PFECNL)18. NYSC (lost NJCSA, lost STA, lost MF)GS 4 Life
You are what your record says you are, I truly believe that, but the team is transitioning, and we will improve. These type of lists are always amusing, unless your kids team is excluded or ranked lower than expected. Then it becomes a pissing contest, and a real waste of time defending or attacking. GS4L does a great job listing the reasons why a team is ranked as they are, good job dude.
Best part about the list GS 4 Life put out, was that he actually had some facts behind the teams. I see you had PL ahead of the other PA teams, seems fair for now since they have yet to lose to those listed under them. Wildcats may be a bit low though, even with the losses shown. In the previous posters top ten, which Bethesda team is he listing in his top ten?
GS4L great post on region teams the previous poster probably means Bethesda ECNL and I know for a fact also FC Virginia is a powerful team as well. Either way you slice it I do like the regional talk shows how many good teams are truly out there. NJ guys you never see NY, PA rank their teams within the state, as they know it's meaningless unless you are up their in the region.
@10:13, not a bad attempt but I'd put South Shore ahead of Boston based on head-to-head results at Spirit, and put BRYC ahead of Bethesda based on head-to-head results at Olney.
11:30 Thanks and GS4L great job detailing it. As for the 9:50 person that called me Schmuck I'm awaiting your input or are you not aware of all these talented teams out there since you probably haven't played more than half of them outside of NJ.
10:24..was waiting for this boards daily PF hater. Kid either didn't make the team or just knows they'd have no chance. Glad you stopped by.
BRYC had one good weekend. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Let's see how they look at Bethesda.
PL at #4? NCS champ LAST year. Only beat Wildcats 2-1 this year. Haven't played PF since 8/2014. Haven't played YMS, PAC, 1776 since PAGS league Fall 2014. Has not played any other team on that list. Not the only team way off base just your highest rank one that's way off. Would like to see PL and PAC in particular play again this year. I think it would be a 1 goal game that could go either way. PL managed to stay within 1 of Boston at Spirit while PAC managed to stay within 1 of South Shore at Spirit.
BRYC beat Bethesda in the finals of Olney. BRYC lost on PKs to FCV in the finals of the WAGS top flight compared to Bethesda winning the third flight. So tell me again what Bethesda has done to be above BRYC? If winning a flight at WAGS is worth so much, should Galaxy (2nd flight winners) be ahead of Bethesda?
Ah I see MD and Virginia people have chimed in on this blog. Welcome to Regional blog. Agree Bethesda ECNL has not proved themselves thus the reason 10:13 has them on the bottom 5 of the her Top 10. But again it is stated the bottom 5 can switch at any point of the season.
10:41. How could any region list be credible with the 9th ranked team being the 6th place team in the region B league? Really?
Looks like the crush guy is back trying to get his team recognized in nj top ten. He also gets insulted easily.
If every single nobody put their own list out it would always look different. Relax.
I like the list, but Galaxy last two losses 7-0 total against, no goals scored. They are way too new to this to be considered top 20 in region. Maybe keeper was out or something, but a top 20 in region cannot be losing to these teams they lost to and be top 20 in region. Much soccer to play, couple tournaments in November, all will have their chance to make this list end of November, but looking at it nothing is surprising, Wildcats, NJCSA, PDA, MF, PL, PF, the two Alberston EM from NY.
Hey Shmuck, it's me again. I have no idea about all the teams in the region therefore I would not try to rank them. I am very familiar with NJ teams so I will list and discuss them. As for your list, it sucks. Boston beat PDA ECNL at Stars of Mass. How can they be ranked behind PDA?
CRUSH are still top 5/6Nothing has changed
10:41Very poorDragons and Albertson especially too highBy thee way what is with US Club and Got Soccer?
Congrats to the State Cup semi-finalists! And a special congrats and thanks to them (except for a couple recent NJCSA posts) for doing it the classy way and not pounding their chests and praising themselves on this board. Maybe we can all learn a little something from them. Predictions for semis and finals anyone?
2:24 too high, yes sir - But I left my opinion out of this. Feel free to edit In regards to us club and GS why don't you ask soccernut - he posted something that was 7 years old, he might have some insight - i asked twice with no response.GS 4 Life
2:43 how do you know they don't post?
1:01 sounds like a PAC parent. Classics is having a tough time of it in a weak PAGS league, so I was actually surprised they even made the list. Classics came within one goal of SS because they played their 18 weakest players. Plus they knew their competition and played their defenders on offense. Great job GS 4 Life, don't mind the quacks that will put a list up and then not put a name or team behind it. Penn United Rules
243 is a wildcats Galaxy parent. No surprise there.
3:08 you're more like a PL parent. Why would PU bash PAGS when they play in it.
2:06 It just shows how classy you are and yes I agree Boston beat PDA at Stars and PDA tied and lost their weekend of ECNL league play but it was just a matter of time they would start playing together. I guess we'll find out this weekend when PDA plays Boston, oh my fault you don't pay enough attention to other teams outside your precious Top 10 NJ teams. You better read the other blogs as it seems many on here know a lot about teams in the region something you may want to take note. Signed, The Schmuck
What team are you with GS 4 life?
Unfortunately, I can not speak of all the teams in Region 1. I am glad I was able to help you create an appropriate signature. I would rank teams on what did happen, not what might happen. If Boston beats PDA in league play I will UPDATE my rankings. Not sure how you are able to track all the teams in Region 1 but I look forward to reading your opinions. Have a good night Schmuck.
That makes ZERO sense 3:08. Must be breathing all that manure 24/7.
2:43 is the NJCSA girls DOC.His handwriting all over todays posts and rankings. Same MO as when he was with NJ Force.Posts and then poses to answer his own posts. That guy is always predictible and way too funny.
3:43 I'll refer to the Schmucker going forward.lol When you play in a high level league and at high level tournaments the past year you tend to see the bigger picture region wise - Yes my daughter plays for one a ECNL team and the region is talented with players and teams. Glad you did some research looked up Boston, but again please don't just stick with your NJ thoughts as it is not the best picture. Good luck with your daughter and her team. Signed, The Schmuck -(World Class)
Of the three Lancaster teams, Penn United has the best coaching by far. Much better at teaches technical and tactical than the other two. Penn U club officials doing a disservice to the players by playing in PAGS.
The aptly named "Stepford Dad" poster from PDA claming Storm used "bottom 18" players and still beat PF handily is in fact a PDA Storm parent as well as one of the teams assistant coaches. These types of posts defending and promoting PDA are part of his job there.
Don't forget that Penn U beat up on Classics a little over a month ago in Pags play and then knocked off 1776 at Discovery. Not much left for them in PA to achieve except make up for a 2-0 loss to PL last year. Club should of had Penn U play in EDP and at least get challenged.
My starter Regional top 25, feel free to comment on let's get a real top 251. FCV (beat BRYC,Calvert,Oak)2. NEFC (beat oak,Sea, FSAECNL)3. East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14 (tied MF, beat PDA,ALBECNL)4. SSS (beat NJCrush,MFECNL,Ajax,NYSC,BBECNL,BRYC,PAC lost FSAECNL)5. BBECNL (beat StarECNL,PDAECNL,STA,PFeCNL,PL lost SSS)6. PDA ECNL U14 (beat MF, STA lost EM)7. Match Fit Academy ECNL U14(lost PDAECNL)8. BRYC (beat PL,1776, tied calvert, lost fcv,sss)9. PL (beat NJ Wildcats, PA NCS Champ))10. Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14(Lost MFECNL,lost PDAECNL, beat ALBECNL,NJ Wildcats)11. PDA North Dragons (beat MFNPL, beat PFNPL)12. MF NPL (beat ALBECNL, lost PDANORTH)13. Albertson Fury ECNL U14 (tied MFECNL,PDAECNL,PFNPL lost EM,YMS)14. PFNPL (beat YMS, tied ALBECNL, lost PDANorth, PFECNL)15. STA NPL (lost Galaxy, PDAECNL, beat NJCSA, NYSC)16. NJCSA Elite (beat Galaxy, beat NYSC)17. Wildcat Galaxy (lost NJCSA, beat STA)18. YMS (lost Galaxy, lost PFNPL, beat ALBECNL)19. PennU (beat 1776,beat PAC)20. PAC (beat Ajax)21. 1776 (tied Ajax)22. PDA South (tied 1776, lost PAC)23. NJ Wildcats (lost PL, lost PFECNL)24. NYSC (lost NJCSA, lost STA, lost MF)25. OAk (beat Calvert, lost NEFC, FCV)GS 4 Life
From the PA side, I like the list and thinks its pretty accurate. I don't think PA Classics does have to be higher on the list though. They have been an F1 team and have won games in that position. If they were F2 in their last tourney they probably would have done well. Pretty thorough list for a region wide 25 teams. I would totally screwed that up.PL Parent
GS 4 Life Great list! Oh "The Schmuck" thanks for starting this convo. interesting to look at how many teams didn't even think about FC Virginia and Bethesda as they are literally just as close to PA teams than North Regional teams like Boston, NEFC, East Meadow. I'm sure that list will change come season end. GS please save this posting.
The next few weeks will solidify the top 6 or move PDA up to number 3 as Boston and East Meadow are on their schedule.NEFC is Number 1 in my book after that it's a tossup.
Agree with PL Parent, very nice list. I'd try to work Bethesda into the bottom ten, and expect CFC to show they belong in the list now that Connecticut HS soccer is over and they're starting their ECNL season
List needs some teams switched around. PL being one, but I won't call anyone a schmuck, just disagree.
Bethesda ECNL that is, correct? I've seen Storm, their B team, play and was not impressed.
Personally I like #24, a lot, think they should be #1. We, I mean they, play soccer the right way, not like you peasants, they are the standard by which all other teams should be judged. Let’s face it, even when they lose, they look great.
When we bring a flat ball to a game, the other team takes air out of their balls, just to match ours.The referee asks our players if that was actually was actually a foul, before he calls it.The soccer Moms on our team are almost as hot as the soccer Dads.They are, the most interesting team in the world.Thank you.
sorry about the grammar, it not easy being funny.
I actually screwed up my last post. I meant to say the PA Classics should be a little higher on the list because of what they have done as an F1 team. That is what happens when the wife is ready to go and your still banging keys and not proof reading. I think PL, Classics and Penn United are close right now, especially with Penn United having the best tactical coach (a little crazy perhaps). Hopefully we will get to play each other soon and have some very fired up games.
You have to get NYSC out of there. They are in second to last place in NYCSL NPL and are not showing much. Maybe injuries have played a role who knows but they will have to work their way back in the top 25. Maybe CFC ECNL, Athletico, Seacoast to replace them.
9:25, don't be like that, try to look at the bigger picture, it's about development, not winning all the time, silly rabbit.HahahaP.S. Don't for one second think the parents are happy, it's a funeral.
We know it's about development in the big picture - but we are talking about the now and not the next year or when they are freshman in college. Don't be upset - I'm sure the girls will work their way back and if they don't that's okay as well.
In the EDP 1st Division North - my TSF ACADEMY 01/02G pick to round out the NJ top 10 is looking really good as all they need to do is beat jersey United who has dropped all their games (6) and has -35 goal differential to clinch the Division title. This should be enough to drop Nj Wildcats Galaxy and NJCSA Elite out of the region 1 top 25 opening the door for CFC ECNL from CY and the Bethesda ECNL team.The EDP 1st Division Central can also be wrapped up with a NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL win. They will have a tougher timeas they play the surprise 2nd place team LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS for the fall crown. An LVU win and they will take the NJ Wildcat spot in the region1 top 25.Because of the schedule the EDP 1st Division South won't be decided until next week unless PL drops 1 of their 2 games this week. next week's match up between 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEand PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK will probably decide the division. GS 4 Life
NYCSL NPL 2015-2016 has some big matchups as well this week, ISA and Manhattan are both ready to jump into the Region1 top 25 with NYSC on their way out. NYSC with a must win game this week if they want the Spring to be their come back season. With STA slipping twice prior to the matchup with NJ Crush, I think a NJ Crush win here not only wraps up the fall for them and puts them in a good spot for playoff seeding I thinkthey go ahead of STA in the NJ rankings and move up the Region 1 rankings.(9) New York SC NPL-01(16) Intense SA NPL-01(15) Manhattan SC NPL-01(12) Quickstrike FC NPL-01(14) Massapequa SC NPL-01(3) Brentwood SC NPL-01(21) NJ Crush FC NPL-01(17) STA NPL-01(3) PSA NPL-01(6) NY Rush NPL-01(0) NJ Stallions NPL-01(6) Match Fit NPL-01GS 4 Life
GS 4 LIFE,What team are you associated with?
GS 4 life,How come you don't mention anything about the PA teams dropping the top 25 in the South Division of EDP. It seems you mentioned it in North and Central, but didn't address it in the South.Who from PL or 1776 should be dropped out of 25.
Top 25 should be a combined league/tournament results. ex: Coming in 2nd in a league and winning tournaments should have more weight than a 1st place league win and losing tournaments. Just my opinion.
What happened NYSC? Lose players or new coach? You are usually proclaiming your beautiful soccer style was better than the thuggery of kick and run you lost to.
On their way out? Harsh GS4L, very unsportsman-like dude. Out? Where are we going, down the tubes, into oblivion, a long walk off a short pier, the last good-bye, que sera sera...Whatever will be, will be, but we ain’t dead yet, intensive care might be a better description, but we have good insurance.
I agree with 8:01 TSF and NJ Wildcats Averbush has not shown well in tournaments. A 1st place league win should not be the only factor.
Its still is 8:02, have you played against us? Yes, or No?
When did we move from Top 10 to Top 25 Region. Keep in simple Top 10 or I'll even go Top 15. Who cares about a team people ranked 25th. Do you think a year or two a collegiate coach cares about the 25th team in the region think about it people. LOL
Just my 2 cents, but FC Fred should be included in that list. They beat SS, and Tied BRYC, and Tri-state. They are reg 1 champs of a competition about 10 of those teams entered.
We played NYSC at U13, not U14. Do you have a different team this year?
Yes, we brought in a bunch of European girls with student visas, I think its a language thing.
NYSC guy is not making excuses for hos team, though I am sure he could.I expect a very good NYSC team in November and certainly in the spring.But...... soon they do need to learn how to get over the hump and earn results, not just play the pretty brand, as taught by esteemed trainer. As we sometimes see, maybe some players begin to get to that next level of making individual plays that positively affect the final score line.
8:29Its just for fun - relax. When you follow possible future opponents closely it adds some to the process. You go in with some sense of what a team is about.The rankings some of you post also show biases, which can be interesting.
The reason I ask 8:02, is if you did, you would of seen what they are trying to do. NYSC does play the typical send-it soccer that so many teams do. They play soccer from the individual player improvement perspective, and it takes time for every player to reach the level required. Some are struggling, some may never achieve the level required, but a few are exceptional. NYSC plays a Dutch-style of football, which is possess, create, and attack. The success the club has had on the boys side will eventually translate to the ladies, and since we are a youth affiliate with NYCFC, our coaches get some of the best training from clubs like Manchester City FC.
Thanks 9:12, where should I send the check??
GS 4 life - nice updates on NYCSL NPLI see a possible run here in the East for MASSAPEQUA, as it could go for this week:Massapequa win over Brentwood - MASSAPEQUA to 17 pointsThen a win or tie for Quckstrike and NYSC over Manhattan and ISA respectively, leaving Manhattan at 15 or 16 nd ISA at 16 or 17.In short, this week Manhattan and ISA NEED to win.
ISA, you mean Atletico incognito?
8:40 Interesting argument about FC Fredrick. At Wags they lost to PL and looked bad in doing so. But tied BRYC, which was a team PL looked bad against. I can't remember what they did against TFA (a team which PL tied), so your point is valid. Its funny how some teams just don't match up well against others. Is it formations, physicality, speed or one coach out coaching the other?PL Parent
How bad could they have looked in a 1 goal game? And they tied TFA btw. Not saying they should be in top 10 but they are 1-1-1 against those 10. Certainly have to be considered better than a number of those lower teams on that list. And no I'm not with that team, thought reg tourn was a fluke but they had a solid showing at wags, deserve alittle respect.
Frederick is not a top 25 team. Talk about a team with one good weekend. They came in last in their bracket at Olney and last in their bracket at WAGS (not even scoring a goal). Both Maryland ECNL teams (Bethesda and Maryland United) are better than Frederick, and based on their games, so are Montgomery Blaze and Harford. Add in Calvert (who can't score either) and there's a good case Frederick isn't one of the top three (five?) teams in Maryland. What's the story on Lehigh Valley? I had not heard of them before WAGS but based just on that tournament, I could see them moving past several of the PA teams listed near the bottom of the Top 25.
All games should count in rankings but if comparing teams in same league and also play head to head in league play than final league standings are first criteria,then head to head league game then compare tournaments, as sane league results are apples to apples comparison over full season or full year. Comparing tournament results is always apples to oranges because teams even if in same tournament and flight don't both play same teams so draw is a factor.
Lehigh Valley good showing at WAGS. They are currently 5 wins 1 loss(lost 1-2 to NJ Rush) in EDP Central league play.If they beat NJ Wildcats Averbuch Sunday they will finish in 3 way tie with Wildcats and NJ Rush at 6 W 1 L. Wildcats win EDP Central with win or tie sunday vs Lehigh Valley.
The NYSC excuse making at EDP cup was disgusting. The coach bashing was worse than anything I've heard.
LV had a good WAGS F2 showing. I don't think it was a very strong flight, but evenly matched. They lost to NJ Wildcats Galaxy (A team) in a good finals. LV will play a league game against the NJ Wildcats Averbach (B team) this weekend for first place in EDP. LV likes to move the ball and build the attack. Team appears to be playing better under new coach. Wildcats want to run you over and kick it long to forwards. Will be interesting to see who wins. I think Wildcat Averbach physical style will prevail.
Coach bashing, please explain.
10:10 To answer you question, they had one shot on goal and almost never crossed the midfield line. I'm not sure if it was their coaches intention or not, but they did play a lot of girls behind the ball. Our girls simply could not put the biscuit in the basket. PL looked similar in their loss to BRYC, we didn't intentionally play behind the ball, but it sure looked like it. At the F1 level where it is so hard to score, it is amazing how a single call or mistake can decide your weekend. It did seem like the Fredricks coach decided going into the tournament that his team was not going to give up goals, and it worked for the most part.PL Parent
I'm loving this. Everyone is going around and around about how the teams should be ranked and apples to apples, etc. Basically you are all reinventing the wheel. Looks like Got soccer is already doing what you are spending all this time trying to figure out. LOL!!!!!!
Yeah but else are we going to do on a Wednesday? Actual work? What a waste of a day that would be.
NJCSA parents posting the 5 goal win, not bragging about it. Let's see, is that because you used BOCA players again so that really isn't your win?!?! Please confirm that BOCA players didn't help you AGAIN?!?
11:36 hahaha, thanks!
Come on Marzapan parent, what is coach bashing?
GS for life is the CRUSH guy.
I agree, GS4L is from Crush.The down the tubes reference about NYSC is the give away.
11:45 BOCA was not in NJYS state cup which would make me assume they are not NJ carded and only USCL carded. That makes any of their players eligible to be on ANY OTHER TEAMS NJ roster. So who's the IDIOT now?
12:24 has a point. They would be eligible if BOCA isn't NJ carded which I don't know. So the question is back to NJCSA. Did they play with you (regardless of whether they are technically on the roster, did any girls that play BOCA also play with you in state cup)?
Personally, I thought BOCA played better soccer than NJCSA, but that’s just me.
Good catch and all the insight about nycsl npl upcoming weekend. Very familiar to the crush guys comments leading up to all the tournaments they end up losing. I hate when people get exposed.
The ghost of BOCA still haunts the Wildcats.
7:39 who ever you want me to be with.7:59 I think PL is safe - However 1776, isn't they have one big win PDA Ajax and that's not a big win any longer.8:01 I tried to use head 2 head games, it's not perfect. Just my "spin" on things.8:05 for real? On the way off of my list. You said all the rest, I didn't.8:06 To me unless they play 1 game a day - tournaments don't tell who the best was - who recovered and was ready to play a 2nd quicker game usually won not the better team 50% of the time.9:17 Thanks it is for Fun or at least it should be.9:24 I agree the East turned out to be very interesting, any word on the Crossover Cup? Will there be one is it the top 2 from each?9:35 they are listed as ISA, you know more than I do.9:46 I wanted to include FC Fredirick what big wins did I miss at u14. PS. Even though they won Region1 didn't they pass on national tournament? 11:05 because as mush as i love GS it has it's issues. Like teams that play 10 events are usually ranked higher than a team that plays 5. Teams that play in leagues that award GS points twice also have a huge advantage. It's a great tool but you have many savvy managers/coaches that have learned how to use the system, so we blame GS for this. Also what else would we do?11:53 if you want me to be - you can think that.GS 4 Life
Good catch last year NJCSA carded Boca players for NPL playoffs and Boca Team only played EDP as they are not an NPL Club.This year they got even more tricky and will use Boca players for both NPL events and NJYSA State Cup as Boca didn't card NJYSA this year and didn't enter state cup this fall.How does that work when the boca players come over and take spots and time from your own players?
As long as the parent coaches from NJCSA and Boca's kids both play the whole game what do they care?
You talk about Soccer Nut not answering the question you asked him twice... What's the big secret?
12:58, hahaha, yeah that might be true about the comment. But its more like you over-heard, or was blatantly eavesdropping, which is a little creepy. One thing for sure, were sure were ref. bashing, which was very unusual, but he was the absolute worst, ever.
GS 4 Life. Keep your team identify to yourself. If everyone here had to post the team they were affiliated with, would the posting contain much more team bashing or less? Or would some not post at all, knowing they might have not have room to rip other? Part of the fun of this blog is trying to figure out who the poster is affiliated with. I'm on the boring side so I just let them know. PL Parent
12:58, well that is a problem too often. It is for my kids team. Parents on a weekly basis sit there and imagine what our record could be if our coach would wake up and stop making choices always based around his favorites and instead make decisions based on what would work best for the team. Politics will always be involved though.
PL parent, which team are you with?
Good question.GS 4 Life
I wasn't eavesdropping. Our fields were back to back on the Sunday afternoon game. She was setting up her tripod and wasn't being very quiet.
That was for post 1:03 not 1:15GS 4 Life
Hahaha, I know who you are talking about, she is not happy these days, it happens. Not everyone is as great as my daughter, such is life.
I think GS 4 Life and PL Parent should co-blog with a BF's 4 Life sign off.
You bastards are always hurting my feelings. Its a good thing I'm not an emotional person. Makes me want to run away with the circus or have my daughter play for FC Revolution.PL Parent
Dude, if you live in Lancaster County, how could things possibly be worse?
So this is my top 10 list - Although I think if we do a top 10 it should be 2 lists a top 10 ECNL and NON-ECNL since most of the ECNL teams will only play each other. Someone else can take a crack at it, so I can comment.1. FCV ECNL2. NEFC3. EM ECNL4. SSS 5. BB ECNL6. PDA ECNL7. MF ECNL8. BRYC9. PL10. PF ECNLGS 4 Life
Being too nice to your friend at PL
2:05 must prefer smog and traffic to scenery. Should be 2 lists. Ecnl teams do not play non ecnl enough to accurately judge.
I agree also. PL hasn't won any games vs top teams since U13 year. Only losing by 1 to BB probably their best game current year. That's not enough to make them top 10. Didn't even reach semis at Spirit or Wags. Not hating just being honest. PL parent, will your team be doing Bethesda? Maybe that'll help.
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