Thursday, January 23, 2014

U12G / U12 Girls Youth Soccer

U12G  / U12 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

No field player from Force helps you get to next level. You peaked at U12. Not ideal in the big picture...... And only one whacky trainer to hang your hat on. Good luck getting to next level with that!!

Anonymous said...

You all make fun of your hopper yet any one of you would jump at the opportunity she has been given. Right?? Let me hear the BS answer to that??

Anonymous said...

Wildcats still haven't won anything. I guess they'll say they "deserve" first place because they beat Storm. Similar to the PDA tournament, they deserve to play in the finals with less points...there is a pattern. Their top players will move on and they will become a mid level town team.

Anonymous said...

They are already a mid level team in style of play.

Anonymous said...

They just win a few more games then most

Anonymous said...

In all fairness Wildcats have regressed in style of play. Get results because the girls work hard, they are in good shape, and they have team speed. Coach is below average regarding team tactics for this level. Should stick to technical training and leave coaching to professionals. New keeper will buy them some time, but hard to see them keeping the real good players later on. Leaving NJX or Wildcats for Storm is smart move. Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

Will sit the bench at storm.
Was not best player on njx or wildcats tonight.
A number of more impressive players on the field tonight.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats defense shut out storm, ajax and njx this spring.
I'd say that's a pretty high level already.

Anonymous said...

If Force had no good players how did they play all the top teams so tough and get the #6 ranking in NJ?
didn't they advance at spirit in top flight in august?
And didn't they give njx toughest game in njx run to spring state cup title? shootout in quarters wasn't it 0-0.

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Anonymous said...

Enough of talking about players! Not what the blog is for.
Also, I don't care how good a player may be, it's a team sport and shame on the adults acting like they are the 12 year olds that carry on going on and on. Go watch your daughter play and be happy for her and the rest of us should do the same. Leave these girls alone.

Anonymous said...

Can't believe the old Force crew will not give their keeper her due...... you are not a good team when you get outshot 20-1 and you tie or squeak out a win...... And that will not work at next level anyway..... We all like to knock the academies but they do have the best trainers moving forward for these girls..... I guess that is a big part of the draw.

Anonymous said...

Right on 5:54, I have been preaching that forever on this blog. NEVER mention any kids, #s, positions, etc.

Anonymous said...

Well another piss poor performance by njx, lucky to squeak out a draw. There were no skills shown last night by either team. Wildcats swarmed the ball, alot of credit to them. Hopefully mf figures out what njx couldnt for the last year. The kids that you think are superstars, really arent. Both teams have players that should be playing at lower levels. But I guess if mommy and daddy will pay and nobody else shows at tryouts? Good luck to both teams going forward in their future endeavors and new teams and trainers

Anonymous said...

Pretty funny post to a bitter Kitty parent that has never and will never surpass their nemesis. I feel quite bad for you that it means THAT much to you and your life. Have fun watching everyone but you go to the next level. Anybody who was at that game saw a sloppy wet game but to say Wildcats played better "soccer" is just not correct. Team regressed from the last time we all played each other. Truth hurts but no need to lash out. I guess it is all over and you will never beat that nemesis. What will you do with your life????? Sad.

Anonymous said...

is there a reason that all wildcat games were on turf except when they played storm. They choose a small bumpy grass field with no width.

i wonder why they did that?

Anonymous said...

Another piss poor performance by the STATE CHAMPIONS...... Toot a loo Kitty. You are basically done. We will keep tabs on got soccer and edp scores to make sure you guys are OK.....

Anonymous said...

Pretty sad if you are hanging your hat on a state championship of beating town teams and squeaking past force. If your happy with that, no wonder why there is no effort on the njx team. I would say let me guess who your kid is, but there is too many

Anonymous said...

Your guys shouldn't be upset at each other. Your anger should be aimed at the trainers.

Dont be so blind.


Anonymous said...

"Wildcats defense shut out storm, ajax and njx this spring.
I'd say that's a pretty high level already."

to get a shut out at this age you just need to tell your backs to kick the ball down field every time they get the ball and let the opposing team start over.


Does your defense have the skill to make a technical team, that's what you should be asking yourself.

Anonymous said...

The "Kickball Classic" last night sure lived up to the billing & that is for both teams. Can a defender just once maybe dribble the ball, try a 3 touch & pass it to a teammate. Why are these girls trained to just kick the ball? That is not soccer.

Anonymous said...

Not very hard to get a shutout at this level folks.
Wildcats were shut out by NJX, NJX was shutout by Force and Storm, Storm and Force were both shut out by NJX, Storm shut Ajax out. If you look at the schedule from EDP this spring, I counted 75 shutouts. WOW. out of 133 games. I didn't see not 1 pass out of the defensive third by the Wild craps! It was all about the kick and run with them. Not hard to stop 1 forward when you play like that.
Kitties had 3 forwards up and still couldn't score.

Anonymous said...

8:20

I haven't seen a defensive team in this age group continuously pass out of the back. Watched many games at Delco and there was not 1 team who did not clear the ball long out of the back. Even your most highly skilled so called technical skills had players "booting" the ball out of the back. The professionals do it more than you would think. Most of you people never have played the game and you think you can envision soccer and the way it should be played. Get your fat ass off the bleachers and try to play the game. It's not as easy as you think!

Anonymous said...

8:01

"Hanging your hat".... Sorry, it was just another tournament that your daughters team didn't or couldn't win. You play to win a tournament like that. Of course, you were never an athlete so you wouldn't understand. It's over, NJX has the bragging rights of winning it until someone knocks them out in that type of tournament. Same with the Storm. You are just clueless.

Anonymous said...

For the record, I was not sitting on the bleachers last night too uncomfortable.

Anonymous said...

So you were standing on the sideline with your fanny sack?

Anonymous said...

Pleas....folks

This portion of YOUTH SOCCER TALK has thrived in part due to a decent level of civility

Can we refrain from the wisecracking, the discussion of individual players and the venom?

Call teams by their proper name and add substance to the discussion. You can be negative about a team or its style without being so demeaning.

Lets take this group of hard working players to U13 with some class.

Anonymous said...

8:30

Most teams that are training their backs the right way will demand their backs to work their way out of pressure with short passes and mini triangles for support.

In the early stages of development( u10-u13) they would prefer this type methodology of training to build a foundation.

As the kids get older , they then incorporate the proper time to clear a ball.

If your team is clearing a ball more times then working out from the back then when are they expected to learn this skill. u25.

Yes the game is difficult especially if you are teaching the kids the correct way to play it from the beginning.

If you want verify this claim just bring your big strong defender down to a team like PDa and see if she has learned enough to make the squad. if she makes it, then I stand corrected.

Anonymous said...

This is why Wildcats are a second tier team. They NEVER win the big games. Look at their tournament results no Championships. Girls work hard but are out coached in every big game.

Storm- State Cup
NJX NJ Cup
Ajax- PDA Tournament. Same bracket as Wildcats.

I don't care much for EDP results but since the Wildcats have been putting such an emphasis on it this season.
PDA Ajax- EDP Fall 1 st Place
PDA Storm- EDP Spring 1st place.

Wildcats had a chance last night to win something, but failed again. No excuses, they made it very clear how important EDP results were. They are not a top team.

1.PDA Storm
2.MF Black
3.NJX
4. Ajax

Wildcats U12:
`Knocked out of SC by Storm
`Lost Fall EDP to Ajax
`Knocked out of NJ Cup by Boca 1st round
`Lost PDA 3rd bracket to Ajax.

Injuries and families leaving mid-season are BIG red flags.

Anonymous said...

Played PDA. Same stuff going on from their defense. Maybe their new coach will demand the players pass out of the back. I played the game, on a very high level, so I know that teaching the players to pass out of the back is the way to go. You can teach passing out of the back at any age. It's all about reinforcing it as a coach/trainer and making sure your players are doing it more often that not. You don't need PDA to teach it and you don't need to go to PDA to see it.

Anonymous said...

EDP

No reason it cannot be about the competition AS the development aspect is stressed

The FINAL FOUR thrown together by EDP was not just to give teams a couple of extra games in the heat

Given that, didn't Wildcats last night grab the point it needed to reach the Final Four?

Well played vs State Champs

CRUSH and World Class last night? If that was teams not concerned with competing, just "developing" then you are seriously mistaken.

Anonymous said...

Too concerned with winning a DEVELOPMENTAL league. These are the games these kids should be looking to pass out of the back and trying for the correct IQ soccer play. Problem is there will be mistakes. God forbid a kid tries to make correct play but mis hits the pass and a girl breaks in and scores. Parents would freak out. Reason why you are not a top program. No problem with playing to win in state cup and tournaments but these girls need the games to be told it is OK to make mistakes. Only way you get to next level. End of story......

Anonymous said...

I will hang my hat on winning state cup over PDA Storm every day and all day...... But you would not know how that feels so I will give you a pass.

Anonymous said...

Bottom line is the academy teams will improve with new players and better training and all others will level off. Statistics do not lie. You will always catch lightning in a bottle now and again with one team but if you want to play the odds, the academies give you by far the best shot at playing at the next level. Just the truth.....

Anonymous said...

The EDP's provides a higher level of competition for teams than is available to them locally to develop their players.

Anonymous said...

8:58, then we are in agreement about teaching kids to play out of the back... we just disagree as when to start.

I say you build it into their foundation from the start and then teach them to clear the ball when the field conditions and pressure warrant such actions.

You will never see a high level team clear a ball consistently unless the field conditions warrant such actions. even then I am not a proponent of clearing the ball every time. i say you just take your lumps and make sure next time the fields are playable enough to be able to pass the ball around your opponent . Unfortunately coaches get carried away by the moment.

Anonymous said...

9:27 I agree and before someone posts there are no Academies for Girls soccer. 9:27 isn't talking about the USSF DA system which only the boys have.

US Club Soccer's ECNL and NPL club standards try to mirror the USSF standards. So when I read Academy on Girls side I think ECNL or NPL Club

Am I wrong 9:27

Anonymous said...

If your top 4 is based off of style, I would say PDA Storm is number 1, Ajax 2. Have not seen MFB play much but I did not see any great ball movement like the PDA teams. MFB, NJX, WILDCATS and Crush are all similar to a certain degree. PDA is the only program with a great style of play.

Anonymous said...

Great game tomorrow @6:30 in Denville:

Match Fit Black vs. NYSC

Anonymous said...

9:29 I think the backs need to recognize when they need to play out of the back or just clear the ball. What the score is, approx how much time left in the game, field conditions, is the other team pressing or not, these are the things the girls need to understand and the only way for them to learn is to play make mistakes and understand what's going on. Not have a parent or coach yelling instructions to them. Let them communicate with themselves.

I hate when us parents get involved in the game, yes we want our kids to do well and WIN, but they need to play and communicate with each other. They need to ride players that are taking it easy. They don't need us shouting instructions. Just because you shout instructions doesn't mean you care more - you send the message that your kid doesn't know what to do. Let them play.

Just my 2 cents

Anonymous said...

9:41, who do you like in the game tomorrow?

Anonymous said...

NYSC moves the ball great.
If there were 1 game to win it all....bloggers choice...
Who would represent NJ? (NJ only)

Anonymous said...

MF would be the favorite going off this board's chatter - this is a good game for NYSC to measure where they are.

Both teams are solid from what I can see based on results and I know results never tell the entire story.

Sometimes a 1-0 game should have been 6-0 and Sometimes a 4-0 game should have been 4-3.

Should be a fun game to watch your kid play in.



Anonymous said...

9:41

Mistakes are to be made during practice and scrimmages. The game is the test! You cannot have players constantly making mistakes in games. At that point, people start to get frustrated and move on. That is the American way. Look at every player who has changed their team.....players move on because of the players that they were playing with as well as the coaches. My daughters team has a player on it who continues to give the ball to the other team...approx 10 times per game.....when the "F" is it going to stop? Oh I know, never, because we play the games to develop and winning is not important!

Anonymous said...

9:41. Agree 100%

9:45: I would choose Storm to play. There record in elimination games is very good. 1 loss in 2 State cup runs and NJ Cup.

Wildcats are a glorified town team. The players work hard but the coach and parents set them up to fail.

U12 is pretty much over as players move to new teams. Kudos to Storm and NJX for their cup wins.


Anonymous said...

9:55 I don't argue your point - I can't because you are right games are the tests.

Is she at least trying something? As long as she's trying to make the right pass, I would be okay with at the end of the day she is still 11 or 12. We don't know what's going on in her head, maybe the coach or her parents planted that seed and when ever she plays she plays not to make a mistake instead of just playing and when you play like that you play slow and you make mistakes. Don't fault the kids. I get it if we were talking HS age, but they are still to young and she be allowed to play and make mistakes until that light bulb goes on.

But as I said - I don't argue your point practice and scrimmages are the times to make mistakes, games are test time. But as I said there many variables that go into a test not just skill also mental, how much unneeded pressure is put on the kid if any.

Anonymous said...

Someone(The Bitter Disgruntled Troll) is desperate again.
Give it up. Wildcats have full roster loaded with talented players for next fall with outstanding keeper in state.
Glorified, scrimmages, glorified town team. You are being redundant again and outing yourself with your repetitive use of the same words.
You have spent a whole year of your time trying to convince players not to come to wildcats because of your obvious hatred of parents and coach. You have clearly failed as the team has had a GREAT YEAR! Come watch us in EDP Champions League Playoffs next month. You will have to buy a ticket though.

Anonymous said...

Why so many points in edp for teams that place so low?

It is really a joke to give 2000 points to 5th place teams.

Anonymous said...

EDP should do what UEFA does for wildcards.

Count only the games played against the top 3 teams (1, 3 & 4) in a division to determine your wildcard before you use any tie breakers.

This will kind of even the playing field taking out the easy 3 points.

Anonymous said...

8:50 just dropped some knowledge on all of you and you completely ignored it. That is by far the most accurate description of the correct developmental approach I have seen on this blog and a very, very long time.

As the parent of a daughter who's team struggles against the very best competition, I'm so much more pleased to see her team implementing this into training and games than I would be to see her winning big tournaments at u12 in a style that won't prepare her for bigger and better levels of play. Without outing my daughters team, any of you who really know soccer and have played against us should have no problem figuring out where we play.

Anonymous said...

"EDP Championship Playoffs" is a joke. Made up mid season. It will consist of 3 division winners and Wildcats.



Anonymous said...

I agree with Wildcats. My daughters team lost in both State Cups, never won a tournament we entered and never won our Fall and Spring league. Therefore, our team also had a GREAT YEAR.

Next year, when the PDA and MF teams are gone, we will also have a great year.


Anonymous said...

8/51 is right. Might be a little too harsh, but good points. Coach is always screaming negative stuff and yells directions to players while they have the ball. Just listen to him for 5 minutes and you'll understand. I can't believe any parent would put their child in a situation like this. The trolls need to stop attacking the Wildcats. They are 12. The coach is a grown man who gets paid, so fire away.

Anonymous said...

Great year at a completely different level of play..... Which is fine but you need to know there will be an entire level of play above that level. Just calling it as it is. Everyone will have to figure out what level they can play at. If 2nd level is where your kid is at, so be it. Nothing wrong with it.
Disagree with practices and scrimmage as the only place to develop. The girls need to attempt the correct play, even though it may cost them if they mess up, in game situations because they need to do it under pressure with something to lose. So short sighted to not see that...

Anonymous said...

Force gear for sale on eBay or contact the new JSA soccer academy coach. Currently it's an academy for 4-5 year olds. Mommy and daddy's paying up early. Imagine that guy will start a U5 blog.
If ya don't pay ya bills ya get evicted!

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Anonymous said...

Let me guess, NJX?

Anonymous said...

10:44

So short sided.....to see that doing the same continuous mistake is hurting the team. That is the issue. There is no issue with trying to implement the training you have received during regular games. No one is saying that at all. I guess you feel it's ok for the same player to keep drilling the ball out of the defensive third to the other teams mid fielder without any repercussions. What about the same mid fielder who keeps Turing the ball over in the midfield because she will not pass the ball sooner. Training and scrimmages is where all these mistakes can be repeated. Game time, is the test. Limit your mistakes and do what you are comfortable doing to get the result. End of story.

Anonymous said...

What^ ?????

Anonymous said...

What^ ?????

Anonymous said...

The better talent plays more. Just because you "show up" all the time does not mean you should play more. It is life. The cream rises to the top at this level and top talent will play more. That is it..... But I am sure the ones complaining are the parents of the kids that are not as talented. That way in any sport.....

Anonymous said...

The comment about the girl in the middle and the favortism shown to some while not others is gutless. You come on here as an NJX parent (and that you are) but what have you told the person running the team? Nothing. Because you're scared of retribution. Your comments are correct. There is favortism. So either walk away with your feet or stand eye to eye with the parent coach and trainer and say what you have to say.

All of these posts from yesterday's game between NJX and Wildcats are from parents and not the players. Gutless each of you. And if you are getting the short end of a favortism deal, then you are both gutless and a chump. Just say'in.

Anonymous said...

So wildcats came up short once again......same old same old. Hope the newbies realize what they stepped in with that coach/team. Hope you don't play multiple positions or are better than the $ payers cause it wont take long to get frustrated.

Anonymous said...

And I will take a feisty scrappy kid in the middle any day of the week. They all need to release ball quicker but that kid hustles like nobody else on the team.... Like the last post said, worry about your own kid and bring it up with the trainer. Would love to hear who you think deserves time over a girl who wins 85% of her 50/50 balls. Just sayin.....

Anonymous said...

Are you joking! You can say whatever you want, but I have not seen ANY of these team's you call TOP TEAMS, play the ball from the back.

I am not going to name drop a club, because ALL of your teams, EVERY ONE OF YOU do the same thing!

Your goalie Punt it out 95% of the time, not even looking for a back. That's right, out of 10 times your goalie has the ball, 9 of them the ball is being punted!

This also goes to all your backs, your defenders that are supposed to be the start of a play, a strategy to move the ball up. During a game, your backs play KICK BALL! EVERY ONE OF YOU!

Now you can bitch and moan, disagree and complain, but here is my challenge to you:

Post a video, anywhere! Someone show us that in 10 minutes of a game, the backs didn't just kick it up, the goalie looked around and passed to a defender in the back, rather than running to the 18 and punting it!

Yes, my daughter plays against all these top teams and yes she is on one of them, and yes we Punt and boot the ball from the goalie and Defense. JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF YOU!

Do you want to know why European Youth dont play in leagues? Because the emphasis is on honing in their skill's that they learned and continue to perfect them. They play Friendlies, tons and tons of Friendlies. The wins and losses are not documented, there is no champion at the youth level!

Then why dont we follow? Training in America has changed so much, trying to follow the European methodology in learning. More touches, Smaller fields at an older age, the importance of 2v2,3v3,4v4, etc..., and even the formation changes at a younger level teaching players different strategies. This is all very impressive, and as far as training goes, we are getting there, we really are!

Now back to league and game play. We play leagues and official games for YOU! That's right, for the parents! We want something out of the exorbitant amount of money we pay. And there are people out there banking on it.

I guarantee that if it was acceptable for one of these real trainers/coaches to speak honestly, they would tell you that they would prefer to play Friendly matches all year long, against competition of their choice.

Ok, a tournament here and there.... Everywhere on the planet is guilty of that!

Anonymous said...

And that is why the academies go to that friendly format moving forward. Totally agree that the "games" are a waste of developmental time because here in the US, it is all about the W. Especially with you whacky parents!!

Anonymous said...

LOL! Good post! I am one of those wacky parents. But I do agree that the way our kids train and practice is different from when they play in games. The clubs want to win, they have to win! And in return our trainers and coaches are different during a game then they are in practice. My child is so much more creative and willing to take that chance in a practice, whereas during a game, there is the fear of making that mistake.

When our coach sets up friendlies, you can see the difference in both the coach and the players on the field.

Good post!

Anonymous said...

To take it one step further about playing time..... The biggest problem with last nights two teams is that neither has a bench player that should be at this level. Even a few starters that do not belong at this level...... That will and should change moving forward. Most of the parents complaining for playing time should stop being so blind and put their kid on the appropriate team a level down. They are over their heads at this level..... The kids know it but you do not. That is the sad part.....

Anonymous said...

I'd rather win ugly then lose pretty. Just sayin'.

Anonymous said...

11:29

I agree with you. Just like I said in an earlier post. I have not seen a team continuously play the ball out of the back.

Anonymous said...

12:03 That is why youth soccer is where it is today..... Just sayin....

Anonymous said...

12:03, I'm glad you're not responsible in any way for the training or development of my daughter. Good luck with that going forward. And please, in 5 years remind us how many games daughter's team won at u12 as if it matters even a little bit.

Your daughter's team's success does not reflect on your own personal self worth. Please remember that.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:27 true but wouldn't it be easier if the team played to feet and didnt have so many 50-50 balls to begin with. Every pass is a 50-50 ball-wildcats played a different style in fall and got progressively worse as the system took hold.

Anonymous said...

Agreed but show me a team that does that consistently. Please do not say Storm because they don't. They do until game gets tight or not going their way. Then they panic and fall back to kick and run. I have seen it many times.... Again back to playing in more of the friendlies where the girls will not FEAR Mom or Dad or the final posted score. I really think they will attempt the right play under pressure but not worry about a posted loss that was due to her mistake.....

Anonymous said...

Once new points calculated new gotsoccer rankings should be :
NJX #1
Storm #2
Wildcats #3
#2 guy can you verify?
Match Fit-hard to rank accurately due to disappointing spring edp north season(probably end up 4th place out of 7 teams - ouch), not entering state cup and poor result at FC Delco. Only representative result indicative of a top #5 NJ team was semi final finish at Spirit tourney back in august.
but topped that off by being blown out 5-0 by Breakers in final.
Rage and Crush falling off and look to be non factors at U13 year.

Those who said gotsocer rankings get more accurate at end of soccer year because larger body of work considered look correct.

Anonymous said...

True read for the season but got soccer really means nothing next year as the academy teams will do more of the friendlies discussed so less events with points. Got soccer kind of done for us.

Anonymous said...

Very true, played storm twice this year and when we high pressed them their backs panicked and cleared the ball first time the rest of both games.
pda coaches calling out other teams for doing the same thing are just trying to keep selling their parents and others they would like to recruit that they play a different style.
Very difficult for ANY U12 Girls team to have the composure to play out of the back vs high pressure.
I have yet to see one do it in nj this year at U12.
Keep selling it though. It seems your parents are buying it.
I agree about the game tapes and I have them for both games and have watched them multiple times. Within first 5 minutes storm backs were clearing everything first time in both games and the results were 50/50 balls played into midfield. Have to keep working on it in practice, scrimmages and in certain games where the other team plays low pressure and allows a little more time and space and over time backs gain confidence and composure to do it consistently and eventually vs the top teams.

Anonymous said...

Got soccer awarded points foe EDP results weeks ago. Originally awarded Wildcats points for 1st, oops. They have since adjusted.

Anonymous said...

Any idea why Storm is now listed with the U13 under Gotsoccer?

Anonymous said...

Folks if you care this much about Got soccer you may as well go back to playing MOSA. I mean really?? Follow the money trail..... Ridiculous and a non factor after this season. It is over people......

Anonymous said...

11:27

I think you are talking about the wrong player.

Anonymous said...

Champs!

Congratulations to NJ Crush Tsunami for taking the BLUE and the WHITE divisions of NYCSL NPL (victories of 2-1 and 4-1 vs Yankee United Sunday sealed it)

And to NJ Crush Tsunami WHITE for winning NYCSL Premier Division 2

Anonymous said...

11:29

We don't live in Europe

Here we count EVERYTHING! (Kevin Costner - For Love f the Game)

:)

Anonymous said...

If MF Black combined their accounts they would be 7th in the state. GS
still has to update the points - but they awarded the Northeast Girls NPL G13 5th place points of 1195 to another MF team. If this is MF black and someone knows the team manager it's points that the girls earned that should count towards their team.

EM racked up points this Spring by playing in both EDP and NYCSL PL.

I wonder if more NJ US Club teams are going to use EDP instead of JAGS for their NJYSA league so they can play in the state cups.

I like following GS - but keep it real when it comes to their rankings. It's a good tool that can use a few tweaks to be the complete tool, but it has some gaps, but still very easy to use if you want to compare a few teams.

Anonymous said...

For this year yes, got soccer is an OK tool. Not the same next season as many will not play near as many "points" games.

Anonymous said...

I think you are right the "pre" ECNL teams fall out since they will travel with ECNL teams and play games that are not part of any league. Maybe NE Girls NPL should add a pre-ECNL flight as it's D2.

But at u14 it's back to business since ECNL league games and Events are included in GS.

Anonymous said...

Dear Crush guy,

Any successful back-passes on Sunday?

Anonymous said...

Wildcats coach is obsessed with size. No doubt a totally different style of play in the spring. Out went possession and in came power ball. Watch that team play and its all heart and hustle but no creative play. Its like the guy is playing a video game out of his chair.

Anonymous said...

12:45 U13 teams have have played in some point heavy events.. 6 of the top teams have 20K plus points

Anonymous said...

The ECNL and NE NPL are playing against a completely different level of play. Coming in 5th in a division of that level is better than first in most others below. That is where the miss is with GS moving forward.

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Anonymous said...

If you only knew, 2:06

Anonymous said...

So coach wildcat you had an out of body experience at the game last night and saw yourself sitting in a chair?

Anonymous said...

2:25 I smell BS.

Teams do it now.

I just saw a game where the team was running around trying to get the ball with big girls and lots of pressure.

The results was that the Big athletic girls got tired and the other team had about 90% of possession.

No need to mention the names of the teams.

I',m not here to call out a specific team just to say I have seen a technical team control a game from start to finish with just technical skill and make the other team wish they were playing on a small bumpy grass field so that they could impose their will.

Saw it with my own eyes so I know first hand that there are a lot of excuses being made here. When you say u12 teams are not good enough, what you really mean is that your u12 team is not good enough.

Anonymous said...

Enough with the Pre-ECNL. It means NOTHING!!!!!

If they are making the commitment to travel with their Older ECNL teams, then U-13 should start a JR ECNL league. It's not that difficult, they just have to register it with USClub!

However, the only negative side is they will have to follow the rules as if an ECNL team. Trade in restrictions etc...

You want to see some youth soccer, go watch the ECNL finals online... Absolutely unbelievable!

Want to laugh... They dont play much from the back either!

Anonymous said...

10:20 is drinking his club's Kool Aid! It goes like this "Don't worry about Wins/Losses. We are teaching you daughter the correct way to play soccer. At u14 we will be beating everyone because we will be technically sound".

There's a balance that has to be achieved in learning how to play AND learning how to WIN. Losing all the time creates a negative environment and a culture of losing. The mind set of a player that is on a team the perennially loses is much different than the player who is on a team that wins. Their approach, attitude, willingness to try new things, etc are all impacted by their desire to NOT lose the game. Losing sucks and will negatively affect a player. Winning is fun and will without a doubt postively affect a player.

So, in my mind, there comes point where I want my daughter's coaches to focus on strategy to win a game. As a competitor, I want my daughter to see how her approach, even mid-game, may needs to change to get that 'W'.

Anonymous said...

They don't play much from the back in college either. The only ones who are talking all this smack about teams are parents who have never played the game at a high level. Youth soccer 25 years ago doesn't cut it folks. So many wannabes on this blog. So many phonies who watch the Premier league and think they know the game. A F-ing joke.

Anonymous said...

@250.....Your commentary is right on. These so called "top level NJ teams" have defenders who close their eyes & kick the ball as far & hard as they can hoping a forward or striker will get to it first. So little possession/passing not only from the defenders but from middle of the field attackers. This is not soccer. & yes I HAVE played & coached soccer. & yes I have seen this from many of the top teams. I believe this explains why out of state teams have dominated NJ top teams all year long for this age group. Even u11 teams from out of state have been competitive with our top U12 teams. That is just fact & long been complaint of mine.

Anonymous said...

3:01 and 3:06 so right.
a lot of selling of a certain program from parents who don't have a clue. Your team did not control the game technically in either game we played. One game on a huge field and one game on a smaller field.
Both games very close and decided late in 2nd half each time.
1 win each team.

Anonymous said...

2:50 a pda parent talking about njx vs pda storm in edp game a few weeks ago. Was different result in state cup finals a few weeks before.
Teams who win a big tournament(especially state cup with long single elimination format) often have emotional let down in first few games after winning that big event.
teams that lose the big game(Storm) also have an emotional advantage when playing a rematch over the team that beat them so soon after state cup final.
could have been a significant factor in that rematch.
see this at all levels of all sports.
didn't same slump happen to Storm right after winning fall state cup when they dropped a few games?
I believe so.

Anonymous said...

3:15

If you don't see the difference then I suppose we have nothing else to debate.

Good luck to you and your daughter!

Anonymous said...

3:11. Which team are you referring to? That team that won your division last fall and beat you at PDA tournament this spring or the team that knocked you out of SC, won SC and won your division this Spring?

Little confused which team your attacking.

Anonymous said...

**you're attacking

Anonymous said...

2:25 is right on "As far as playing out of the back, trying to do that with U12 girls when playing against 3 forwards who apply constant high pressure to your back line as soon as the ball is turned over will get you beat 3 or 4 to zip.
Then you would be killing the coaches for not adjusting to the game conditions."
Daughter's team attempts to play from the back, switches the ball a lot, plays back to keeper and they make a lot of mistakes when pressured. When things are working it looks beautiful, when you lose games due to your own mistakes it's not nearly as fun.

Anonymous said...

Learning correctly is not always fun.

Anonymous said...

It's a tough balance to teach the girls to play with skill while getting decent enough results to build your team and hold onto your players.
In reality very few parents on this blog will sit idly and be happy when team gets poor results while "always playing the right way".
If not why are so many the parents on these teams so animated on the sidelines during games frantically calling out instructions and yelling at their daughters and others on their teams.

Anonymous said...

4:34 correct and have seen it from parents on EVERY team on this blog.
Most of these same parents who complain about style of play and want the girls to make decisions right or wrong are the first to bolt when results are less than expected.

Anonymous said...

This blog is crazy today. You have kool aid drinkers, a coach who lives on here talking a good game and posting every other post and pretending he's someone else, some ex players who know the deal, and some guy who keeps trying to talk up Ajax. Very entertaining.

Anonymous said...

Good bye Njx. You might have won a State Cup but you sure havent improved. As your most recent results prove. With regards to the better players getting more playing time. Maybe thats the case at your club. And winning 50/50 balls, half of them are caused by their own mistakes and perfeƧt passes to the other team.

Anonymous said...

RIDER CUP 2014

Girls U12 U12G MAPS

Bracket 1
FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)
MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)
NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)

Bracket 2
MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (NYE)
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (PAE)

Anonymous said...

6:08 unless you are from PDA, go scratch! Nobody else can talk smack against this team. They keep getting better and will with better training. They will have the best training available to them. Unlike the other non academy teams. Give me ONE non academy club that will have better trainers than PDA and MF for next season..... Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to PDA\Match Fit

NPL Playoffs
PDA 5 teams
Match Fit 4 teams

ECNL Playoffs
PDA 5 teams
Match Fit 3 teams

Anonymous said...

6:08 is clearly storm knocking njx.
Saying only reason njx won state cup was high grass field and no contest on pda turf in rematch in edp game.

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

Yep, they're in need of few more subs, 22 25 28 players but whose counting? Team chemistry, who cares? Team camaraderie, what is that?

Anonymous said...

Dear Camaraderie,

What is that, is right. Its becoming increasingly clear to me that we have no true friends on our super-competitive team, and I don't mean the players. Some of the megalomaniacs on our team make this entire experience suck, its sad, but true.

The more I see, the less I know....

Anonymous said...

Not about subs

NJX players would best some Storm starters/finishers, as the CRUSH player will

Anonymous said...

Funny to hear everyone on this site claiming it's all about development and letting the girls play and make mistakes, yet you viciously attack the teams any time they don't win a tournament or get a result.
Even advancing in a tournament not good enough.
And if god forbid, they don't win a game it's the end of that team, they are on the way down, etc.
Hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

What was so wrong with that post that was taken down. I didn't write it but I saw it. I didn't think that was a bad post.

Anonymous said...

Seems like all the lies are kept on the blog and the truths are erased by an administrator. Why is that?

Anonymous said...

9:10, you are spot on.

Anonymous said...

9:10 you nailed it.
the ones who have an agenda and hate on a daughters ex-team or coach will try and knock those teams/coaches either way.
They can't win with these nutcases.
Their repetitive negative posts about a team/coach do get obvious after a while to any person with at least a bit of intelligence as nothing the team being attacked does is ever enough.

Anonymous said...

Yep = if a team has a few wins, they are not playing to develop, too focused on winning, GS points, entered easy tournaments, etc.

If a team draws or loses a few games, even with a close margin 1-0, they are washed up, no talent. Enter a tough tournament and don't advance, they are done for good on this board.

And I love how these posts talk about how WE played, YOU didn't do a damn thing except sit at the computer, the 12 year old girls played and all deserve some credit for all of their hard work, sacrifices, and dedication.

Anonymous said...

If it's any consolation it's only a few who are behind the personal attacks and sowing all the anonymous evil while hiding behind their typewriters.. Probably 1 attacker each from njx(maybe 2) and 1 or 2 from pda knocking others and each other.
Also disgruntled former freehold coach,former wildcat manager, former manalapan parent, current njsa something or other is still bitter and crazy after all these years.

Anonymous said...

8:05 what was removed post 8:05 about?
It was taken down before i got up this morning. Sorry.\ just curious why everyone is upset it was removed.
What was the subject?

Anonymous said...


Funny how NJX gets bashed for having no technical skills all the time especially recently on here and if I remember correctly someone said that MF has been training them for awhile.

Hmmm maybe it should just be PDA who has the better trainers

Anonymous said...

Can someone please calculate the flight value of the Rider Cup Maps Group, thanks!

Anonymous said...

10:34 There is one person who can do that, but he's on strike - something about having the PDA Shill tag removed. Not sure what that's all about.

Anonymous said...

10:34 There is one person who can do that, but he's on strike - something about having the PDA Shill tag removed. Not sure what that's all about.

Anonymous said...

They should be posting it next week, I am impatient, and obviously a moron, sooo....

Anonymous said...

He said okay since you twisted his arm.

1% NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
4% MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)
5% N/A: MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (NYE)
6% FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)
8% SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ)
11% YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)

"Teams in the top 1% contribute10000 points.
Teams in the top 2% contribute 7500 points.
Teams in the top 3% contribute 5000 points.
Teams in the top 5% contribute 2500 points.
Teams in the top 7% contribute 1250 points.
Teams in the top 10% contribute 625 points.
Teams in the top 25% contribute 313 points.
Teams in the top 50% contribute 156 points.
Teams in the lower 50% contribute 78 points. "

10,000 + 2,500 + 2,500 + 1,250 + 625 / 5 = 3,375

Anonymous said...

MF Invitational

1% NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
3% PDA DRAGONS (NJ)
4% STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
10% CAPITAL UNITED BLUE FORCE (NYE)
10% MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC LADY JAGUARS (BLUE) (NJ)
33% COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (PAE)

10,000 + 5,000 + 5,000 + 625 + 625 / 5 = 3,750

Anonymous said...

Dear arm-twister,

Thanks, but shouldn’t there be 6 teams points listed in your breakdown, I just count 5?

Anonymous said...

Only the top 5 count to determine the flight value

Anonymous said...

10:09 your mom

Anonymous said...

Wildcats heavy favorite against not much talent this weekend. Maybe they could get a championship?

Anonymous said...

Dont know Capital United

STA should put up a very nice fight. Dragons have shown well lately.

The PHA team? Again...dont know.

I will assume teams may use some guests.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 11:44, although after calculating its pretty much not worth the gas, ugh.

Why isn't the might Match Fit Black playing in this tournament???

Anonymous said...

Looks like ecnl teams are starting to separate from the masses. They will be very choosey about the teams that they play going forward.





Anonymous said...

MF Black is playing in the u13 NE Girls NPL Semi-Finals same weekend

Anonymous said...

Storm playing in Region 1 Championships I think next weekend.

The NJ "pre" ECNL teams just have stuff to do.

Rider looks like a Nice EDL warm up with a different PA team.

MF Invitational has ECNL and NPL teams.

PS. It's always worth the gas if my kid is playing, just love watching her play.

Anonymous said...

10:32 NJX does not have MF trainers. They attended Winter session ran by MF DOC. this is the only connection to MF at the moment

Anonymous said...

Like I said rider looks like EDL warm up.

I like the MF Line Up

We have

ECNL = FC Bucks
EDL NPL = NJ Wildcats
NYCSL NPL = STA
NE Girls NPL = Dragons

I am very curious to see how the results will look.

Anonymous said...

NJX will never turn the team over to MF staff 100% as MF staff will not allow favortism for parent coach kid.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats bringing a mix of returning players and guests from younger wildcats team.
Colts neck and other schools have mandatory field trips out of state this weekend.
heard dragons nd other teams also have players missing due to Holiday Weekend Plans, Family events, etc.
Looking to enjoy ourselves over the fathers day holiday so please Trolls try and stalk another team this weekend.
I'm sure every team is in the same situation and treating this like the offseason summer tournament that it is meant to be.
After the grueling gauntlet of EDP Central and Champions League qualification hope to take some of the pressure off our girls and enjoy the Fathers Day Holiday with our families.Weather looks good all weekend, high 70's and dry.
Happy Fathers Day to all the soccer Dad's.

Anonymous said...

2:30 So is that what bugs you? You think the coach is showing favoritism? You think your kid is better and should play that position or should play more? Okay Cool

Anonymous said...

Everyone drive safe this weekend!
Leave your house early for your games so you don't have to rush because there will be heavy traffic going south down the shore this weekend.

Anonymous said...

Is Mf going to allow a parent coach to continue running NJX at U13?
Or is this team being fully turned over to MF coaching/training.

Anonymous said...


EDP Central
1 PDA STORM 6 1 0 18
2 NJ WILDCATS 5 0 1 17
3 HOLMDEL NJX 4 2 0 13
4 PDA AJAX 4 3 0 12
5 RAGEFREEDOM 2 2 2 8+?
6 TSF ACADEMY 1 4 1 4+?
7 NJ FORCE 0 4 3 3
8 IGFA 01-02 0 6 1 1

Standings are final with one game remaining (best Rage can do is 11 points, best TSF can do is 7 points).

There were some surpises, but overall a very tough group. Despite their win over Storm, Wildthings not better than Storm on their best days, and maybe Ajax not better than NJX or Rage at their best, but the standings are pretty reflective of the level of play at U12. At U13 there will be separation. Wildcats have already displayed their team changes. Not sure what to expect yet from Storm, NJX and Ajax and it sounds like Rage will be at best a shell of their former selves.

Anonymous said...

2:34 GREAT POST. Agreed, let the girls play soccer and have fun. Seasons over. Let the Dads (and moms) enjoys the weekend.

I think each team should be responsible to bring a different beer on Sunday. Them we can sample them all... a couple times.

Drive safe and have fun!

Anonymous said...

final game 0-0 tie monday between njx/cats must be added to each of those teams final record.
edp site not yet updated from that result. anyone know when e. meadow vs world class makeup game scheduled?
that game will determine final spot in EDP Champions League Post Season Playoffs form EDP North.
final four will be very strong top to bottom.
How will they be seeded?
Record only?
Assume #1 plays #4 and #2 vs #3 on saturday, then winners play winners sunday for overall EDP championship in Region 1 and semi losers play for 3rd place overall in region 1 EDP also sunday.

Anonymous said...

2:58 Wildcat coach, relax! Spend some time with your family, dog, or neighbor.

Take 2:56 advice, please.

Anonymous said...

2:34 agreed. Take back this site from the miserable, bitter, Trolls who only sow evil and hate.
Get outside in the sun this weekend while they hide in their dark, cold, damp holes typing away while cowering in fear that they might be identified by their posts.

Anonymous said...

238

gotta wait and find out, like everyone else

Anonymous said...

Hey 3:02 I'm Not a coach, just enjoy having #2 back and all his informative posts.
Just would like him to update us on how seedings will be done if he can.
My daughters team is going and I am interested.
Is that OK with you or is this not an appropriate site to ask for info on Champions League?

Anonymous said...

Prediction is Wildcats will finish second to some other team this weekend. Must not be any action on this tournamentis or the coach wouldn't be so mellow today in his daily posts.

Anonymous said...

Points were updated but the records were not (this also includes the Force/Ajax result not yet posted). So the order is final but one game points to be awarded for the final Rage/TSF match.

EDP Central
1 PDA STORM 6 1 0 18
2 NJ WILDCATS 5 0 2 17
3 HOLMDEL NJX 4 2 1 13
4 PDA AJAX 4 3 0 12
5 RAGEFREEDOM 2 2 2 8+?
6 TSF ACADEMY 1 4 1 4+?
7 NJ FORCE 0 4 3 3
8 IGFA 01-02 0 6 1 1

Anonymous said...

@234 most certainly is the coach trying to downplay the tournement this weekend. justifying already, covering bases, just in case team doesn't perform well. but if they do, then it will be how he was able to coach a team that was so short handed with 11yr old guest players. sad, we know you all too well & your ssshtick got old long time ago. & you wonder why?

Anonymous said...

3:08, LOL.. since they are making up the "Champions League", hahaha , as they go along the format is probably not determined.

Should be called the Champions and Wildcats League.

Anonymous said...

@338.....Very funny!

Anonymous said...

hysterical, and also really mature...

Anonymous said...

2:34 Really?

Anonymous said...

MF Black Playing this weekend to qualify for the u13 NPL FINALS.

Teams Qualified
South Jersey Elite Barons
Tampa Bay United SC
Mississippi Fire
Michigan Hawks
Santa Clara Sporting
FC Salmon Creek Nemesis
Eclipse SC
FC Golden State
Lake Washington Premier FC

League Champions TBD
Mountain Developmental League
New York Club Soccer League
Northeast Girls NPL
South Atlantic Premier League

We can say what we want but if the NYSC rumors are true of them bolting for the NYCSL NPL the EDL should be the Wildcats to win unless the SJEB new additions make a difference.

Anonymous said...

National Cup XIII Mid-Atlantic Regional

NJSA 04 01/02 Galaxy
Atlantic United Academy Avalanche
Century United FC Elite
FC Copa Lima
PDA Ajax

Anonymous said...

Which 13u PDA team is MF Black playing?

Anonymous said...

OK I see now it is PDA Madrid, #16 in NJ but #1 in NE NPL

Anonymous said...

EDP results

Match Fit Black 3-0 NY Soccer Club

Match Fit Black can finish in 2nd place in EDP if WC beats EM

Anonymous said...

NY State Champs lose? NY parents, can you provide feedback on this game

Anonymous said...

Team just not that good

Like I sid - didnt have to go through WC or EM in their State Cup

Welcome to the NPL, NYSC

Anonymous said...

no doubt nj soccer dominates ny.

Anonymous said...

NY has a good top 2 or 3 but NJ has 5 or 6 teams. It would be interesting to see NJ/NYs 18 best players play. Problem is they wouldn't be able to train to get familiar with each other. For example, trying to get girls from Rage and IGFA to the same training together would be rough. ODP tries, but it doesn't have the 18 best.

Anonymous said...

Does this leave CRUSh in first place still?
That was the talk last week from them as I recall.

Anonymous said...

Also, ODP goes by your birth year. So we still wouldn't be able to see this. ODP should become a summer program.

Anonymous said...

No way a daddy coach can be objective and fair. True story

Anonymous said...

Your one stop shop for anything Region 1, NYCSL or EDP. Sorry since the PA teams stay away it would be difficult to compare them to the NY/NJ teams.

Going into this weekend.

Happy Father's Day!!!

EDP
1st Division North
1) WORLD CLASS FC 16
2) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK 13
3) EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 13
4) CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE 12
5) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 11
6) ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED 5
7) NEW YORK SC G01 4
8) SDFC SAMBA 2

2nd Division North
1) CFC ARSENAL SKY 18
2) FSA FC U12 GIRLS WHITE 15
3) WORLD CLASS FC 14
4) MANHATTAN G'01 PRIDE - RED 11
5) RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS 9
6) BEACHSIDE SC CT 7
7) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLUE 5
8) EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE 5
9) SMITHTOWN STARS 5


1st Division Central
1) PDA STORM 18
2) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL 17
3) HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC 13
4) PDA AJAX 9
5) RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 8
6) TSF ACADEMY 4
7) NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS 3
8) IGFA

2nd Division Central
1) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH 17
2) FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA 11
3) PITTSGROVE SC RUSH 01/02 11
4) WWPSA SPURS 11
5) ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY 10
6) SJEB '01 9
7) NJSA04 CEDAR 8
8) NEW JERSEY DYNAMO '01 0

1st Division South
1) CES CALVERT CREW WHITE 24
2) PIPELINE SC BLACK 10
3) FUTURE MONARCHS BLACK 10
4) MARYLAND RUSH 01G 4
5) FC MILAN 01G 1

=====================================
JAGS
ELITE
PDA Dragons 15
PDA Galaxy 13
SI United Hotshots 10
Toms River FC COPA 01/02 9
Manalapan Dynamite 5
Washington United Fever 5
Stronghold SC Fury 2
=====================================
NYCSL NPL

BLUE
NEFC 01 51
Oakwood Soccer Club 01 49
NJ Crush FC 01 31
Parsippany Soccer Club 01 30
Yankee United FC 01 28
STA 01 27
Seacoast United SC 01 27
Mass Premier Soccer 01 25
NJSA 04 01 25
Massapequa Soccer Club 01 24
Intense Soccer Academy 01 20
Brentwood Youth Soccer Club 01 17
North Rockland Sting 01 12
Aztec Soccer 01 11
New York Rush 01 2
HBC Soccer Club 01 0

WHITE
Oakwood Soccer Club 01 34
NJ Crush FC 01 33
NJSA 04 01 30
Intense Soccer Academy 01 29
STA 01 27
North Rockland Sting 01 26
NEFC 01 21
Massapequa Soccer Club 01 18
Yankee United FC 01 16
New York Rush 01 10
Brentwood Youth Soccer Club 01 10
Parsippany Soccer Club 01 9
HBC Soccer Club 01 3

NYPL D1
East Meadow Soccer Club Hotshotz 25
Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Red 18
SABA Brooklyn City 13
Atletico FC Girls '01 11
East Meadow Soccer Club Sky Blue 11
FSA FC FSA FC GIRLS U12 NAVY 9
FC Westchester FCWE G02 9
White Plains Youth SA Fury 02 Premier 7
F.C. Transylvania Red Storm 02 4
Everton America CT U12 NYCSL 3
===================================
Region 1
Colonial League
1: BRYC 01 ELITE 15
2: GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT 8
3: PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK 8
4: PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE 6
5: RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 5
6: DOUG MILLER SOCCER GU12 STEALTH 0

Anonymous said...

7:44 Great Job

Top 3 NJ Teams.
1. PDA Storm
2. NJX
3. MF Black





Anonymous said...

MY TOP THREE

NJ
PDA STORM
MF BLACK
NJX

NY
EM HotShots
WC Charlton
Albertson Red
NYSC
Athletico

CT
OAKWOOD
FSA Blue/Soccer+
FSA White/Soccer+
CFC West Orange
CFC Arsenal Sky


I really wanted to to a top 3 but I couldn't exclude NJ Wildcats, NJ Crush and Albertson - I think they are all very good teams and there are a bunch of very good teams I didn't list.

Anonymous said...

My bad top 5

NJ
PDA STORM
MF BLACK
NJX
NJ Wildcats
Nj Crush

NY
EM HotShots
WC Charlton
Albertson Red
NYSC
Athletico

CT
OAKWOOD
FSA Blue/Soccer+
FSA White/Soccer+
CFC West Orange
CFC Arsenal Sk

Anonymous said...

Feedback, yes I have some comments, if you really want to hear them, or would you just prefer to gloat?

NYSC has had an inconsistent spring, as have many teams at this age group, we win as a team, and we lose as a team, because we are a team. We do not throw our players, or coach, or club, under-the-bus every time we come up short. We have respect for every team we play, and I cannot find a comment where we have trash-talked, unlike many other commenters on this board.

Hats-off to Match Fit Black, best NJ team we have played so far, and we wish them luck.

Please let me know if that will suffice, or would you prefer more in-depth analysis.

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Pretty good job with the lists

I like Yankee United in top 5 CT. You have a couple of B teams in there

Anonymous said...

9:05 I was going to add Yankee United, but went with the two CFC teams since they usually have a big draw and deep teams I think. I also went with both FSA teams because of the FSA Soccer + Merger.

If you've seen them play you know better than me - I just went of of some results and recent news.

I'm very curious to see how all the teams do at u13 do they move up the charts? NJSA, SJEB, STA, AJAX, DRAGONS, TSF/IGFA merger, FSA/Soccer+ merger only time will tell.

I think these 8 will continue to get better WC, EM, MF, STORM, Breakers, FC Stars, CTFC and PennF. I can see Albertson and FSA/Soccer+ making it a very Strong ECNL division - I feel sorry for the other 2 PA teams, their results didn't look so good. Well at least we get to see FC Bucks play some teams this weekend to compare.

Also these teams will make strong 2nd teams to play in NE Girls NPL and sometimes a strong 3rd team which is sick.

NYSCL NPL - NJ Crush, NJSA, STA and maybe NYSC if they join could be the teams making a run at the NPL finals next year.

The NE NPL will have all CT and MA teams in the same league, so many good teams tough to pick Oakwood and NEFC favorites?

EDL NPL has NJ Wildcats maybe and Improved SJEB team plus NYSC if the rumors of them leaving are false plus a wildcard from PA. LVU had some decent results looking at GS history tied NJX 8v8, beat Ajax and Wildcats 8v8, tied JPS and lost to NJ Crush more recently playing 11v11.

Just my thoughts on this age group. No I don't know it all, I actually don't know much - just a fan that enjoys talking about an age group his favorite player plays in.

Anonymous said...

My top 3

Match Fit Black
PDA
NJX

played all 3 three. have to give edge to MF over PDA, plus they beat PDA last time they played head to head

Anonymous said...

Top 4 from PA remains the same. In any order:

Penn Fusion (formerly WCUSC)
Penn Legacy
Nether (state finalist)
Ukrainians (current state champs)

With the roster shift this season from about 12 to about 18, all four of these teams have added some impact players, at the expense of some other PA clubs.

Penn Fusion has some recent 11v11 results against NJ/NY teams in Delco Cup. I think all four teams will likely be at Spirit Tournament so we'll see some more interstate results then.

I think a previous poster made a point in regard to comparing NY and NJ teams which also applies to PA. In PA, the best players (clearly there are some exceptions) seem to have consolidated on only four teams, while in NJ the talent is spread out over 6 or 7 teams. May make a difference when comparing interstate results.

Anonymous said...

NY York soccer parent- I agree they are best NJ team. What did they do to take you out of your game?

Anonymous said...

I agree with your NJ top3. There are about 5 teams you can put in the next tier.

-Rage and Crush both lost a lot of players and are still rated heavily on past success.
-Wildcats can't win big games against better teams. -Ajax and Dragons also fit into this second tier. Ajax could be better next year if they added good players from Rage.

Anonymous said...

ll this talk about best team in NJ,

whether it's Matchfit or PDA doesn't really matter.

They wii be facing each other shortly and the proof will be on the pitch.



I assume both teams have changed since last they met.




So good luck, either way, you can't go wrong if you are on either team.






Anonymous said...



So both NJX and MF Black have parent coaches ?

Which parent gets the "Pre ECNL" team?

The DOC needs to take that team or there will be all kinds of uproar with a parent coach don't care how good coach either of them are. That would be a mess waiting to happen

Anonymous said...

10:18
If you only knew what goes on with these parent coaches. For the money we are paying for this so called level, you would think mf wouldnt want the headache of parents being involved in any way. Parents should not be involved at this level.

Anonymous said...

NJX has a new coach.

Anonymous said...

10:30- EVERYBODY knows these teams have parent coaches. If you went to tryouts and paid your deposit you are the fool.

I enjoy people who make the decision, then expect the club to change.

Anonymous said...

Top 5 in NJ
Storm
MF
NJX
Wildcats
AJax

Anonymous said...

Correction: There are teams where the parent coach says they will be passing the team on to a non-parent coach but magically, that doesn't happen AFTER the check has been given by the parent to the team. Or the parent coach hires a paid coach to stand next to them to give the appearance of having a real coach and no daddy/mommy ball but that parent coach still controls everything.

Anonymous said...

Yes, in whatever order that is top 5. Rage, Force, and Crush move down or folded and the teams above are improved come fall due to defections from Rage/Force/Crush.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Seeing this for 1st time. What happened to Rage/Force/Crush? Which ones have folded?

Anonymous said...

Daddy Coach, Mommy Coach blah blah blah. Which is ECNL team which is not blah blah blah.

I think we can stop the MF and Storm talk as part of NJ - let's start measuring them against the rest of the ECNL Division. When talking about State top teams lets leave out the ECNL teams and compare them to themselves.


BREAKERS GU12 ELITE (W7, T2, L0, GF25, GA5)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 2-1
WEST CHESTER UNITED SC PREDATORS'01G (PAE) 1-1
FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (MA) 2-0
CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE (CT) 5-0
WORLD CLASS FC '01 STRIKERS (NYE) 1-0
FC STARS OF MASS NORTH UNITED (MA) 2-0
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC LADY FALCONS (NJ) 5-0
FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (MA) 3-3
FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (MA) 4-0

EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (W6, T2, L3, GF15, GA8)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 0-1
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 0-0
ALBERTSON SOCCER CLUB FURY '01 RED (NYE) 2-1
ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (NYE) 1-0
WORLD CLASS FC WCFC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 4-2
CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE (CT) 2-0
FSA FC FSA FC GIRLS U12 NAVY (CT) 1-0
World Class FC U12G 0-1
Match Fit Academy Black 0-1
CFC West Newtown U-12 Orange 3-0
PDA Storm 2-2

WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (W7, T2, L4, GF18, GA12)
ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (NYE) 3-1
WEST CHESTER UNITED SC PREDATORS'01G (PAE) 0-0
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 1-2
CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE (CT) 2-0
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 2-4
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 1-0
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-1
East Meadow Hotshotz 1-0
Albertson Fury '01 Red 2-1
Match Fit Academy Black 1-1
CFC West Newtown U-12 Orange 0-1
PDA Storm 3-0
CFC West Newtown U-12 Orange 2-1

MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (W5, T4, L3, GF12, GA12)
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 1-0
CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE (CT) 2-3
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-0
ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (NYE) 1-0
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 0-1
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-5
FC BUCKS 2001 ECNL (PAE) 3-0
Albertson Fury '01 Red 2-2
CFC West Newtown U-12 Orange 0-0
World Class FC U12G 1-1
East Meadow Hotshotz 1-0
PDA Storm 1-0

FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL (W2, T1, L2, GF5, GA9)
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 1-0
FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT) 1-0
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-2
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 3-3
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-4


PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (W0, T2, L0, GF1, GA1)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 0-0
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 1-1


PDA STORM (W1, T2, L3, GF8, GA9)
FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (MA) 0-1
FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT) 1-1
Albertson Fury '01 Red 5-1
World Class FC U12G 0-3
Match Fit Academy Black 0-1
East Meadow Hotshotz 2-2


CFC WEST ORANGE (W4, T1, L6, GF11, GA17)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 3-2
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 0-2
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-5
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-2
ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (NYE) 3-0
FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT) 0-1
CFC West Newtown U-12 Orange 0-0
World Class FC U12G 1-0
East Meadow Hotshotz 0-3
Albertson Fury '01 Red 3-0
World Class FC U12G 1-2


FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (W1, T1, L5, GF3, GA7)
ALBERTSON SOCCER CLUB '01 RED (NYE) 1-2
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 1-1
EAST MEADOW SOCCER CLUB HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-1
FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (MA) 0-1
EAST MEADOW SOCCER CLUB HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-1
CFC WEST U-12 ORANGE (CT) 1-0


ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (W1, T1, L8, GF8, GA23)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 1-3
FSA FC FSA FC GIRLS U12 NAVY (CT) 2-1
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 1-2
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-1
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 0-1
CONNECTICUT FC WEST ORANGE (CT) 0-3
PDA Storm 1-5
Match Fit Academy Black 2-2
World Class FC U12G 1-2
CFC West Newtown U-12 Orange 0-3


FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (W0, T0, L1, GF0, GA3)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC LADY FALCONS (NJ) 0-3

Anonymous said...

However, since you made me look and since the NEW coach for NJX is MF. I would have to include their numbers since this does muddy the waters in regards to which will be the ECNL team - I take back my blah blah blah.

HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (W2, T1, L6, GF6, GA14)

BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-3
WEST CHESTER UNITED SC PREDATORS'01G (PAE) 0-2
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE) 2-1
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 2-0
FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (MA) 0-0
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 0-1
FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT) 1-2
FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT) 1-2
BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 0-3

Anonymous said...

My top 5

1. World Class
2. MF Black
3. EM Hotshots
4. PDA Storm
5. NJX

Anonymous said...

does anyone know if PDA Shore was able to get a team together at U12 going u13? We gotta make a move and cant stay in Monmouth county any longer

Anonymous said...

My top non ECNL 3 teams.

NJ (I think a few teams can make a claim to be included but I only listed 3)
NJX or MF Black which ever is not ECNL
NJ Wildcats
NJ Crush

NY
NYSC
Athletico
Manhattan or SABA or Staten Island or Westchester

Anonymous said...

Will Matchfit be merging their top 20 players for u13?

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