Ha! Let me guess, dude. PL dad loving the easy bracket! Sure anything can happen.... Will it, playing a team like HMMS? No. Oh, and I'll go with SS to win bracket A!!
Please can you list revised top flight for Spirit?
Spirit is anything but high pressure this year. Brackets still need work. They'd be better off having only 2 only groups in the top flight for games to be more competitive.
Remember the Eclipse Tourney is this weekend seems like PDA didn't bother sending any teams to it like last year. PDA didn't win it so they don't go back typical mentality.
Give it another day or two. Top flight will improve, hopefully.
Ajax and BRYC deserve top flight far more so than at least 4 teams there right now.
Maybe it makes me a bad dad, but 11:23 is right on the money with his comments. I have never seen my daughter go to any game (home or away) and not give maximum effort. Love watching her play and the best thing is that it never requires me asking her to work hard. I'm sure many dads on here will say the same. I believe most girls don't see one tourney as a high pressure tourney and one as casual, the ones that play at a high level operate the same way in everything they play or do.Great conversation the last two days! Keep it going everyone.PL Guy (not the angry one)
Please post revised top flight.Thanks.
Angry PL dads huh? It's a U14 soccer blog. I suggest meds for anyone actually "angry" on here. It's all just opinions from a bunch of nobody's. Relax.
Can't pull up Spirit flights, says error.Can you post top flight?
PDA South NPL will be in the top bracket. They deserve to be based on their wins. No question. And PDA will get them there.
239 I disagree I think they should be punished since PDA tourney did not reward points. It's there fault they do not attend enough events and stay secluded. If they want to be top flight the next tourney let them win out at Spirit then the next one move up by the time Spring comes if they deserve it they will top flight.
So what teams did PDA South beat to earn the top flight. Not being a wise ass, just asking.
They attended enough events this spring and played plenty of games. They were a semi-finalist at NJCup (when all of the teams were in it, a finalist at Jeff Cup and were also at Delco and PDA tournament. They also played 24 league games. You just want to penalize them because they have PDA in their name. Let the best play the best.
What teams have HHMS beat, 1776, Yardley, Calvert, Medford. Are you kidding me?
Based on records and who they played, they are the top NJ team in the tournament.
It's a complete joke that HMMS, Boca, Medford, PA Classics and YMS are in that top flight. Crazy if they don't change that!
In the last 12 months, Ajax is 1-3 against teams that are currently listed in the top flight at Spirt (a win over Wildcats and losses to PL, South Shore and PF ECNL). I don't think that screams "deserving". But at the same time, they're 4-0 over the teams they played that are currently listed in flight 2 (SJEB, BRYC, PF NPL, and Pipeline). Whatever you want to do with that information, I'll leave it right here....
Those flights are far from final and will change a lot over the next month. PDA Guy, you still didn't answer the question. Who has PDA South have wins over? Because they played a lot of games means very little. Finalist at Jeff does mean something though (depending on the flight). All the teams involved play a lot of games and win or are finalist at some damn tournament. According to your logic, shouldn't all the PDA teams deserve top flight?
First of all I am not a PDA guy. A NJ guy though. Go to Got Soccer and the NPL NE web site to see who they have beaten. I do agree they are not a top flight team at say the Jeff Cup (they were in the 2nd flight and lost to World Class in the finals). They were also 3rd or 4th in NJ Cup with all of the top non-ecnl teams in the tourney. They should be ranked higher than the NJ Wildcats since they have beaten them. But the realty is that this tourney's top flight is not very deep. There may be 6 teams ranked higher than them but that is it.
I said they deserve top flight "more so than some of the teams there now" and yea I agreed they'll change. Just funny to see them there even for a few days!
1:36Are you referring to the guy who signed on as "PA Guy 2" yesterday? I was going to comment I didn't think he was from PL as someone suggested, but maybe you know better. Considering the way our team and club gets attacked on here , I thought we are usually a rather polite bunch!
3:10For the record YMS has wins last year over 2 F1 teams, Calvert & Legacy. Not a consistant team but plenty of talent and good coaching typical from that club. Classics had an excellent showing at Delco and deserve the chance to build on that as well. Ties against a solid NYSC team and Albertson ECNL, & wins against Bethesda ECNL & Greater Binghamton. HMMS is a different story as at least 4 of the top players left. I'd be really supprised if they picked up enough talent to be competitive in that division. 2-3 more changes and I think they'll have it about right.
A win against Legacy is good as long as it wasn't a fluke. Any bad losses for YMS? Calvert is over rated. Haven't been a top team in over a year.
1776 hasn't beaten anyone either. They got a ton of points for a Maps tournament last month but they really didn't beat anyone.
Where did the HMMS girls go? I luv how so many people on this blog have inside scoop of teams.
PL lost 2 to PF but gained 2 from HMMS. To me the only teams in PA that really did not change much is PA Classic and YMS. Congrats on your player retention.As for NJ I think every team gain/loss. To much of a merry go round hopefully my daughter is done after this year. Even if she plays on NJ ECNL squad.
4:24pm You seem to know a lot about PA teams how many did ECNL FC Bucks and CFC gain/loss?
You have to admit 4:14, that the soccer community is actually a small one (at least in PAE). It does seem that almost all teams parents and players that have friends on other teams. So it isn't that difficult to find out who went where and what player is practicing with a different team. I'm sure it's very similar in NJ and NY.
NJ a little bit different with small divided by North and South Communities.
PL lost 3 to PF made no cuts and added 2 from HMMS. 1776 has 3 additions. PF cut several and picked up 5 new. Not sure about YMS. FC Bucks lost several players from what I heard. Maybe YMS picked up a few from there?
I believe FC Bucks's standout forward moved to Storm. A couple of their other players were rumored to be heading to CFC, if that's true FC Bucks ins in a world of trouble.
PA Classics picked up 2 girls off of PL White(B team) and demoted 2 to their B team. Also got a new coach. I doubt any team stayed 100% intact
Don't expect to see anything from FC Bucks and CFC. PF however is a different story. If PAC additions are from PL's B team I doubt they will do much. Spirit will be fun to watch but is so early and doesn't give teams who've changed much of a chance to gel. WAGS will be when we get to see what these teams have.
We have heard a lot about who the PA teams picked and which ones may have gotten stronger. The big question is...did the Wildcats pick up any game changing players this year? I know they get beat up on this blog, but we actually had a good time talking with the parents during our games. PL Parent
Such an angry, bitter human being you must be. I truly feel sorry for your daughter. Unless she's just like you, then I feel sorry for her team.
What does "Happy a great weekend!" mean?
and this is why certain teams are looked at the way they are....
Please do not make negative references about children on this board 9:25.
We should not bash 9:07 because of his "trash" remarks. Can you imagine the horrors he's gone through of watching soccer played at the lowest level and still having to switch teams year after year. Every year blaming the failure on everyone and never realizing who is the common denominator. The fact that you would address two teams of parents and 13 year girls as "trash", speaks volumes about you. Good luck to your daughter this fall in all she does and hopefully she finds someone to look up to (a coach maybe). PL parent
Hey 10:01, please spare me! We aren't talking about angelic little 9 yr olds anymore. By U- 14 many of these girls have taken on the personality of their parents. Loud and obnoxious, foul mouthed, disrespectful of refs, dirty players, even trying to intentionally injure others. And you can usually pick out the parents of the worst offenders. Exhibiting the same type of behavior stalking up and down the sidelines. Always putting down everyone and everything else to make them feel better about themselves and their kid. And that's how I pictured the poster, like dozens of dads I unfortunately see at games every season. I truly do feel sorry for the daughters of these guys. They must be humiliated at times. I hope many of them take after their mothers(though some of them are just as bad) But like they say the apple rarely falls far from the tree. So to all the girls that have to put up with teammates like that I feel sorry for them too.
This board has gone downhill fast. I think this will be my last visit to this site. Enjoy each other.
11:36, you'll be back. This site is like crack. Once you're on it, you just can't stay away!
I will not dispute that we may have or had a couple knuckleheads on our sidelines. I have been involved in premier soccer for 8 years and have found very few teams that do not have one or two. So every time I come across one or two of these parents, should I then decide that the whole group it "trash"? It is impressive that you have never had any parents on your daughters teams that acted like a fool at one time or another (or many). It is unfortunate that our parents get along so well with so many other teams parents, but not you or yours. Since I am willing to list my team on this board, why don't you list yours and we will make it a point to improve the behavior that you find so offensive. It would be a stepping stone for us to move from "trash" all the way up to "rubbish". PL PARENT
I am not 9:07. I would not call a team "trash". I hope your parents clean up their acts when playing all teams not just my kids.
11:13 I can recommend a good therapist if you'd like?
So put your team name down and I'll make sure to stand beside you and cheer both teams on during the game. Don't be like 9:07 and thrown remarks out there and hide behind you computer. Its easy to disparage someone or a team when you don't have to say "hey it me saying it". I'm even offering to stop at a Wawa after the game and buy you and your daughter sour grapes slushies (win or lose). Would you want your daughter to stand up and say what she believes in? And not be afraid to own it? You should too.PL parent
PL Peon,Go away. Sincerely,All of us
All I did was ask a question about the Wildcat tryouts and nasty comments came from what must be what you consider "all of us". This is a great blog with what had been great conversation for two day until "all of us" made a stupid comment. I'm done with that now, so how about moving on to your next insult and we'll hope the other the other bloggers pick up where they left off yesterday. It was a good read.Your new friendPL Guy
Spirit flights have changed again.
Looks better but I think there are others that belong in top flight before Harford and Rage.
Spirit you guys did good, love the first flights based on GS points good talking point. F1Bracket A BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)Bracket BSOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)Bracket CBOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)Bracket DPENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)F2Bracket A SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)PIPELINE BLACK (MD)Bracket BCONTINENTAL FC ECNL '01 (PAE)ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ)Bracket CJERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)Bracket DALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
Don't be surprised if those still aren't quite final
YMS deserves a shot at the top flight. Especially if RAGE is listed in there. YMS is the better team
YMS and Rage tied last year 1-1. That's a coin toss. YMS is a very inconsistent team.
True. But I think YMS has had wins against better teams. Although they have had some bad losses too. Just don't see RAGE jumping from F3 or F4 to F1. Just not enough quality wins
where are the spirit brackets found? are they officially up?
Is there any doubt that PF would come out on top in their bracket? At least as its listed now.
No not yet official.How did Harford make top flight?
Who said AJAX wouldn't be on top bracket?
Don't know how long Crush will stay at "#3" I heard they have lost at least half of their players between the 2 teams...
If flights stay as is-CalvertSouth ShoreBreakersPenn FusionSouth Shore vs Penn Fusion in final
Wasn't AJAX in 2nd flight at Jeff? Where did all the Crush players head too? Half the team leaving means there must have been a lot of greener grass else where.
I know you guys want it to be a PA thing, I think ALbertson should replace Harford and CFC Delco should replace Rage as host and end the YMS rage debate both in F2 with Harford.Hey Ajax makes you feel better? You can sleep better at night now. The sad thing is they are .500 according to GS games and lost 3 games and tied 1 vs MF NPL and PDA Dragons - Dragons are not F1 and they are better than Ajax. But you have the PDA brand and it's an ECNL club hosting the event so what did you expect? You think you earned it? .500 teams are not F1 any way you slice it.
I do think Penn Fusion would win their bracket, but they have they improved enough to get to the finals? Have they been to a final since 8v8?
I know PF did win a tournament last month. But that was more like a scrimmage for them, since they had to play their own B team in the finals.
flipping through the channels how does pro arm wrestling get a spot on ESPN and the NWSL doesn't.
Speaking of scrimmages7 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS0 NORTH UNION UNITED 01F LADY CANNONSNJ Crush tournament has no scores updated to report on SO far @ u14PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)W4, GF18, GA1PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) W2, T1, L1 GF3, GA3HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE) T2, L1, GF2, GA7PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM (PAE)W2, T1, GF8, GA1FC BUCKS RED PRE-ECNL (PAE) W1, L2, GF4, GA5
My bad that's th u13 FC Bucks Pre-ECNL team not u14 should not have included them. Just going to cover EDP, RCL and NPL teams this fall on this board, will post my ECNL info on the ECNL board if you want fast scores in one place
PF's NPL team could beat many club's A teams. The club has depth. The ECNL team beat Breakers 6-1 in May and they have only improved their roster for this year. They have what it takes if they play well. Albertson I agree could replace Rage or Harford. Not so sure about CFC moving up.
Brackets still changingBRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
No 12:49, we want more NJ and NY teams. We play PA teams enough as it is and would rather face clubs from other states. I'm sorry 1:44, but PF NPL team is not going to beat clubs "A" teams. Maybe a a few of the lower ones in Pags, but thats it at best. I've seen their second team and they wouldn't be able to score. Evem the lesser clubs keep their stronger players on defense, hoping to score a breakaway or set piece. Not trying to slight PF's NPL team, but there is a reason there are where they are.
most of PF NPL are local girls. Granted they couldn't have made the ECNL team but they are still very good. Over 1/2 of PF ECNL team is not local girls. They come from 1 hr or so drive. To look at PAGS 1 this year I think the PF NPL team could win it.
Silly to think Calvert will win their bracket. They are isolated in a low population area and can't draw good new players from nearby teams because they just aren't any. They're stuck with what they have. Everyone can train players to improve but most other top teams will attract good players from nearby teams and improve even more that way. Calvert can't and has already peaked as a result.
3:28 you're right. I didn't say PF NPL should be in top bracket at Spirit. I simply said they were good. They could absolutely finish at the top of a league like PAGS.
Easy there PF. Last weekend your NPL team couldn't beat HMMS, a mid level PAGS team and now your talking about winning that league?
Bravo FC Stars Cup forbeing the first that I know for doing the below: U12-U14 teams are limited to 22 players identified at Registration (22 can dress per game).U14 Two 35 minute halves (5 minute halftime break) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++Spirit - this probably why the ECNL Clubs didn't come to PA??Big difference for the teams that carry more than 18 - they all play since theevents are viewed as they should be scrimmages ROSTERS: Teams may register a maximum of twenty-two (22) players A team may use up to five (5) guest players but any team utilizing loaned players is still limited to the player maximum (11v11)U14 Two 30 minute halves (5 minute halftime break)
6:14 please stop the events are viewed as scrimmage bull. Its funny how when we play an ECNL team at a tourney they just seem to play their top players so much of the time. Maybe its just everyone's imagination?
The only change is Wildcats and Ajax were flipped to each others bracket.Otherwise same as before in F1.
6:11 so sorry. They tied them. Then they went on to beat LDC, another PAGS D1 team. My point is that they are a good bunch of players and obviously can hang very much so with many clubs A teams. The club has depth, like it or not. Sorry that bothers you.
7:21LDC will be lucky not to finish at the Bottom of PAGS this fall(where they even D1 last year?). Beating them by 1 goal is a far cry from being able to win that league. And I hate to break it to you, it's not just that they "only" tied HMMS, with 8 of their starters having left, PF NPL, for all practical purposes just tied HMMS's B team from last year . So if you want to brag your B team is as good as HMMS's B team, go for it! But I can promise you YMS and PAC will beat what's left of that team handily. And if your NPL team isn't better than that they would have no chance of winning PAGS, even with most of the top teams gone. I'm just trying to keep you from getting your hopes up too high. Why don't you just wait until after they play a good team to tell how good they will be this season. YMS is in their bracket for now, let's see how they do.
Wow why are you so hostile? They are just saying the NPL team is a good bunch. Calm yourself.
7:56 Just for the record PDA Dragons, PDA Ajax and MF NPL would destroy PAC and YMS not even a debate,i saw them play at Jefferson and they play slow.PF NPL0-1 PDA Ajax2-7 PDA Ajax0-1-PDA Ajax(playoffs)3-4 PDA Dragons1-5 PDA Dragons0-1 PDA Dragons (playoffs)1-1 NF NPL5-2 MF NPL7:05 If your kid's team played in the National League, and Jefferson cup was two weeks before a NL event, you are telling me they wouldn't treat Jefferson as a scrimmage and try some new stuff out? or are you telling me that jefferson cup medal is the world??? I never said they don't play to win,they don't treat it the same as a game that gets them to Seattle, let me guess you still disagree
When you throw out scores from last year just remember, that was last year. Rosters have changed.
8:09Not being hostile at all. And they didn't just say they were good, they said they could win PAGS. Just saying not a chance. 8:10Which PAC game did you watch there? The one where they outplayed Albertson ECNL(who beat Storm), or the one where they beat Greater Binghamton(who tied MF ECNL)?
dude we are 8 games into the new season last year is all that we have. All i was saying is that this team PF NPL the "B" team played well against other "B" teams that would destroy every PAGS D1 team and this team held their own in 6 of the 8 games - 1 W, 1 T and 4 1 goal Ls, that's no fluke. So yes I believe that the PF NPL team the B team would beat most PA A teams.
5-0 GRAND RAPIDS CREW JUNIORS 02 PREMIER GOLD and they were lucky it was only 5. What tournament are you talking about?
YMS had some good ones at that event also4-1 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 01 BLUE 4-14-0 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01Wait did you just say PAC is as good as Storm and MF ECNL? okay you are a soccer guy for sure -i can no longer talk to you with my smoke and mirrors.PAC and YMS play slow - to many touches = slow
PAC tied Albertson 2-2 and beat GB in PK's. That was called a "good day" for that team. Let's not make them better than what they are. Their additions this year are from PL's B team and their own B team. Don't expect much.
Someone please get 8:40 some water and medicine quick. He's very delusional right now and can't see the forest through all the trees.PF's "B" team played very well against other "B" teams One win-One tie-four losses = the ability to beat RAGE-YMS-PAC-UKRANIANS-PL-1176I included PL and 1776 because YMS beat PL. So in theory his "b" team should be able to also pull out wins against PL and 1776. Simply using 8:40's logic here. 8:40 "b' team may be a decent team. But are they even as good as the NPL teams in NJ or NY? Some of those teams would do well in Pags. So he is correct there
No I was thinking of Delco, which unlike Jeff wasnt played in a swamp. Of coarse all the teams looked slow at Jeff, the ball was under water. And I never said they were as good as Storm or MF ECNL, but if they can beat and/or play even with teams who can do the same to those two top teams, they will certainly have no problem beating PF NPL.
We shall get some answers in two weeks and please don't play the pre-season cardPA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)vs SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)vs PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)vs ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)vs YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
PF's goal differential for their bracket will be at least a plus-6 after two games.
PF "B" team is a rec team at best, look at the results.
Stop it!! Your going to upset 8:40 and how he see's the team. But the "B" teams for all clubs do serve a good purpose. Girls keep playing soccer and some girls do move up, especially girls increase their skill level and gain size late. It was on this blog that someone said girls from PL's B team are now playing for Classics "A" team. The goal for the girls is good, but like the rest of us sometimes the parents see more than whats there. Now, how badly will South Shore beat up on PF?
A bunch of morons spending way too much time worrying about another clubs second team. Must not be much going on with your own kids team.-Not 8:40
Normally I'd say South Shore will beat Ajax and destroy PAC but I'd still love to know how they lost to FC Frederick.
If I had to rank the bracket strengths at Spirit i would say C is the toughest then B, A and D in that order.
Weakest bracket is clearly A,As A is the only bracket without a clear contender for title.There is no team that will come out of A bracket that will likely even make finals.South Shore, Breakers and Penn Fusion are 3 clear favorites going in.2nd best teams in B,C and D would all have much better chance to advance if they were in A bracket.
I don't know. Breakers lost twice to PF last Spring with the second game being a blowout. I know PL lost some players but I still think they may be able to manage a win there . Will be interesting to see that play out.
My Spirit Girls U14 PredictionsFinal Flights (released) Championship*** CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)*** SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)*** BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)*** PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)Elite*** SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE) or ***PIPELINE BLACK (MD)*** CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '01 (PAE)ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ)*** ISA 01 NPL (NYE)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)*** ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
EDP*** Super Clubs (17 teams)I'm really curious to see if the EDP super club is a tie in to NPL?1st Division NorthNJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)***(NPL) JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL (NJ)JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)***(NPL) NJCSA ELITE (NJ)***(NPL) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)*** BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)HBC SPARK (NYE) 1st Division Central *** UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)***(NPL) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)***(NPL) NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)*** LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)*** PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)***(NPL) SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)***(NPL) FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL (NJ) 1st Division South *** RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)*** PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM (PAE)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)***(NPL) MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01G (MD)*** SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)*** PIPELINE BLACK (MD)CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)*** BETHESDA STORM 01 (USA)Fall 20157 EDP games* Crossover games for NCS eligibility* Champions League (last year 8 teams at u14)* Total Games
Not bad 10:32. But in the Championship division. PDA and PL take their brackets, while in the Elite, there is no way Albertson wins that bracket. Also think Athletico wins their bracket too. There s a couple of really weak brackets yet, but most likely they will change a few more times.
Top 5 teams in Spirit are in 3 brackets.1.Boston Breaker (c)2.Penn Fusion (d)3.PDA Ajax (b)4.South Shore (b)5.Penn Legacy (c)Bracket A very weak.
Ajax not winning bracket over South Shore. Heard they lost a number of players, not sure who the replacements are but would expect it to take some time.
You have Ajax ranked higher than South Shore, are you completely off your rocker?
Based on last seasons tournaments: 1. Boston Breakers2. South Shore3. Penn Legacy4. Penn Fusion5. PDA Ajax6. NJ Wildcats7. BRYC8. Calvert In that order each has beaten every team below then that they played at tournaments. None have beaten a team higher in a tournament setting. I know PF beat BB in league play but we all know ECNL teams play tournaments and leagues differently. If they truly are 4-5 goals better than BB even before their new additions, Spirit will be a cake walk for them. We'll see
South Shore Boston BreakersPenn FusionNo order with these 3 since I think any could win it.Penn LegacyPDA AjaxThe results of these 2 depend on how the they look for the new year.
I'd throw NJ Wildcats in with PL and PDA. Depends on how they look this year.
I'll give you South Shore and Boston, likely playing for the championship, but looking over PF's tournament results from last year, Delco was only 75 days ago, I'm just not seeing it. Barely better than Calvert and BRYC, and some bad loses. Makes me think they lack the depth to play 3-4 games in a weekend.
That's last year. PF's roster has improved. Sounds like they'll be able to hang quite well. We will see in 2 weeks. Who knows what any of these teams will look like at the start of a new year.
Fair enough, and good for them. But last year is all I had to go on. Everyone thinks they improved their roster since last season. We'll all know soon enough.
For the most part all ECNL, NPL, and top GS teams got better I'm sure they attracted talent. Its just how fast do the players jell and build chemistry to succeed.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish, no? I will gladly trade some early season failures, for NPL Finals. That is our goal, that is the league, and GOD help anyone who gets in our way : )
8:32 I agree 100%. I could careless if my kid's team drops all 3 games in the pre-season (Spirit or Stars) or where they are ranked by GS. They need to figure out how everyone fits in. For me it's the league and advancing to the next level by winning your league, that is the primary GOAL for me.
Was that a glass that dropped and kool aid spilling? Somebody must have had a little to much of it.
How so? Because we have different opinions?
I'm sorry if it sounded so critical of your opinion. It is your opinion of what works for you and if it does, that's great, since it is your money and time being spent. Its just that I have been doing this for as long as the Soccer Nut (possibly longer), and have talked to so many parents who said the same as you, yet ended up so disappointed. Everyone believes the path their club coach/owner tells them, that its easy to forget that they are salesmen also. You stating that you don't care if your daughters team lose every game in tournament play, because the team goals are bigger, sounds exactly like coaches I've heard over the years. Its great insulation and protection from the parents being irritated at the coach and club after spending $500.00 on a losing weekend. But by the same token, winning should mean very little also and be brought up just as little as the losing is. I seen coaches play both ends and the parents follow along like lemmings jumping into the sea (present company included). Just my opinion, although it could be a wrong one.
NJ Wildcats pick up players? Lose players?
You misunderstood my post. I do care how my kid'steam does. They play in a league that advances the winner to a National Championship. For me her team winning this would make me a million times more happier than watching her win a medal at Spirit of Stars tournament. This has nothing with being sold the brooklyn bridge or getting drunk on kool aide as you like to call it. I understand the game and I understand my kid as long as her team is playing soccer and taking short cuts to win she will continue playing there as long as she wants to or as long as they want her and yes I will continue to pay the bill.
6:39 again post should read - not taking short cuts.
That's great that you have that vision 6:39, it is to be commended. And if that is the case and all your parents see it that way. Then there should never be any of your parents posting and complaining about what flight they are placed in at a tournament. What would it matter, since the tournament is unimportant anyway. So, can you truthfully say that you and your parents never bitch about where your team is placed? After all, for your team all tournaments are just glorified practices. I have yet to see a blogger on here say "we are happy to be in F5". But maybe you guys are the exception.
I have seen bad coaches who are teaching our kids nothing at all say " winning doesn't matter its about development".I have seen great coaches say "winning doesn't matter, its about development"I have seen winning teams take so many shortcuts because all the coaches care about is winning.I have seen winning teams who's kids are significantly developed in technical skills care about winning just as much as the next coach.It is up to the parents to understand which is which because the one thing they all have in common is that they always state that "their program is the best and you are making a mistake if you leave".They have to be salesman, it's their livelihood.Beware the coach that spends too much time on teaching the kids to be physical early on in development or to press and step at the early ages to force their opponents into mistakes to win games.Or concentrates on fitness for a half hour each practice.These are important factors once our kids are developed to a point of possessing the ball but many coaches leave out the possessing part and go right to the physicality of the game.Ask yourself objectively can my team hold the ball under pressure? if they can, there is a very good chance they have learned some great techniques in order to do so.Then the other parts of physicality and fitness get introduced to mold a complete playerSoccer Nut
My apologies for preaching, I was just asked to evaluate a coach for a friend and I was very disturbed in what he was teaching these young ladies. All under the cover of a "Soccer Academy"So i am in rare form this morning.Soccer Nut
Preaching is OK if it is worthwhile sermon. And the Soccer Nut was right on the mark. I felt his key line was "They are all salesman". No club wants $1500 to $3000.00 going to another club, so of course their way has to be the best way. Is there any better feeling that a coach telling you how great your daughter is doing or that she on her way to being a top player? Great sermon Soccer Nut.
Dear Soccer Nut,Let me know if your start a soccer-religion, I will be your first congregant.Interesting about the coach being super positive, my kids club is very tough on the players, both mentally and physically. When you are elected for a roster, you are expected to not ask for praise, not in a bitter way, but more like, you are a club member, its a given you are good, now we want to make you better. Its simple but very effective, to me anyway. My child has been with this club for 3 years, and she has become (and is becoming) a strong, multi-skill player, and is more importantly, is beginning to read the game much better, beginning to see passes before they are served, and at this level, its deadly. All of our players strive for greatness, its a mandatory preoccupation. Cheers!
Mr Nut you are right - the funny thing is that you also hear the parents screaming the same things to the kids step. I can't speak for everyone - but I understand the game (love it) and laugh when I hear the sales pitch. They all do it - for some it's real for others it just that a sales pitch.
Not sure if this was already posted...WAGS flights are posted.http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=42906&Group=Girls_14
Brackets are coming outCould someone explain to me how Calvert Crew and PA Classics are in top flights at Spirit and WAGs? I really do not think they belong. I guess they will get a chance to show they do.I wonder if this bracket will change with results from Spirit?
WAGS looks weak this year overall.
No idea why WAGS would be so quick to post flights. At the same time, why hasn't Stars of Mass released flights yet? Supposedly today.
PAC will do nothing at either tournament. NJ Wildcats deserve top flight at Wags far more than PAC. Hopefully Spirit results will change Wags brackets.
Why would WAGS post so quickly? Why wouldn't they? It's not top secret - it's youth soccer.Let the parent'shave some fun with the build up BRAVO WAGSWAGS is a month after FC Stars and they released while STARS is still top secret.Cup Flight FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)CREW JUNIORS ELITE (OS)CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)OAKWOOD SC (CT)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)TOTAL FUTBOL ACADEMY TFA ELITE 01 (OS)FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC) ########################A Flight RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)CENTURY V 0102 ELITE (PAW)NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED (VA)MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 PRE-ECNL (MD)REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)D'FEETERS 02 (TXN)KINGS HAMMER ACADEMY KHA RED (KY)
B FlightBSA CELTIC CELTIC 01 GIRLS WHITE (OS)BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE (PAW)SEVP BLACK THUNDER (MD)TRIANGLE FUTBOL ALLIANCE TFCA 01 ALLIANCE G (NC)PINECREST PREMIER 01/02- G BLUE (FL)MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE (MD)OP FIRE 01/02 RED (ON)VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 (VA)CLEVELAND FUTBOL CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL (ON)CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE)CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '01 (PAE)HBC SPARK (NYE)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)BEADLING SC BEADLING WHITE (PAW) #######################C FlightMARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD)VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER VYS PHOENIX '01 (VA)WARRINGTON FC BOMBERS (PAE)DC STODDERT BLUE METROS 01 (VA)HFC READY '01 (PAE)FC WESTCHESTER ELITE QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE (NYE)CYA COUGARS 01 (VA)PITTSBURGH RIVERHOUNDS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY (PAW)BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02 (NYE)DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 GIRLS (DE)MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01G (MD)FREDERICKSBURG FC BLACK (VA)UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT USA/MP 20 PREMIER (SC)VSA HEAT BLUE (VA)
Is it about letting parents have some fun with the (two month) build up? Or is it about getting it right and allowing more evaluation of the 2015/16 teams to make sure the flights are as accurate and competitive as possible? Could they have waited a month and would nobody have questioned that? Absolutely.But hey, at least you get to enjoy the buildup. Bravo to you.
Getting what right u14 youth soccer? Most teams are not an apples to apples compare so they will never get it right. WAGS has always published their lists way before anyone - and we have always had fun with them - sorry if that's not your cup of tea.
Gee I wonder who will win WAGS? Tough one.
FC Virginia wins in a walk
Since I picked Virginia also, I'd like to know how good is Oakwood SC from CT? Can they know off PL? Pl does tend to find a way to get to the semifinals in tournament play (and it ends there). Any picks from the other two Cup bracket?Florida Elite maybe???
I like CASL from North Carloina, they are an ECNL team, and have beaten Virginia.
Nj crush wins it all
They always do, and always will, Go Crush!
Best up and coming club in nj, as long as you are loaded.
Fire up the Crush copter!
Was talking to a Crush parent last season, we were discussing how Vrush has a hard time keeping their best players. World Class steals a surprising number of players, perhaps it's a proximity issue, and the magical ECNL tag, who knows. When I pressed him about whether he would leave Crush, he smiled and said, only if she makes PDA.
If she is good and is a 2002, may have a shot.Why doesn't crush play anymore?
Hey Admin - what does this board become if birth year goes into effect? Is it a 2002 board or a 2001 board? The 2001 girls will lose a year of soccer with this change, they go from u14 straight to u16, that stinks.
2015 Spirit United Kickoff Classic - Girls Weekend8/22/2015-8/23/2015PROJECTED FLIGHTS Girls U14 Championship (PROJECTED = 10,000)7 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)9 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)17 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)24 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)30 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) Elite (PROJECTED = 8,500)42 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)48 MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ)57 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)69 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)81 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)Platinum (PROJECTED = 4,564)52 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)74 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)151 NJCSA ELITE (NJ)381 HFC READY '01 (PAE)403 CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F (PAE)
FC Stars flights out - I hope they don't change. PDA kills their Dragons by removing their event from GS. The Dragons didn't make a Premiership flight even after making NPL finals. One would wonder if those lost 8,000 points would have made a difference, probably not since MF Black (the new NPL team), Ramapo Valley (EDP D1) & Two teams they beat at the PDA tournament get nod over them in Blue. White has SJEB (EDP D2) getting the nod and NYSC who they tied at the PDA event. Well you asked for it - you got. We all knew Storm wouldn't get hurt, and after the Ajax cry fest at Spirit it's know the Dragons turn.Premiership - Blue (PROJECTED VALUE 8,500) 74 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL u15 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM37 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED142 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL137 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL91 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '0211 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 0183 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL ============================= Premiership - White (PROJECTED VALUE 9,500)3 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS 79 SJEB '01G NPL 46 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 65 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL 7 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE134 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL30 NEW YORK SC G01204 FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01
Hahaha, I know these are preliminary, but putting Ramapo in the top flight just made me fall off my chair, funny!http://www.starsofma.org/FCStarsTournaments/StarsCup/889270.html
8:16 Why would you say preliminary? They look final to me - why wouldn't you use the GS tool for flights. They took the time to create a document and my guess is put some time into it.
The only teams with a 100+ GS score in the premier flights are the ECNL teams, all other teams are under 100. All the teams under 100 are in a premiership flight. I said it when Spirit came out and I'll say it again now for Stars. Bravo for sticking to GS and I'm okay with the ECNL teams getting nods as i was with CFC Delco at Spirit.
831 since your with CFC how are they looking as I'm hearing large roster changes made. How are the PA ECNL squads looking Penn F, and FC Bucks.
8:54 couldn't tell you
Looks like they went strictly with Got Soccer as the MFA NENPL team somehow has more points than the ECNL team. That's like putting your head in the sand though.
If those are the final flights at Stars Cup, then the White group has superior teams, and will provide some crazy-fun soccer, I personally cannot wait, we get another shot at 2 teams in our group...
None of this makes sense though. It's not GS based and it's not talent based. How is a team like NEFC, that is now cemented as arguably the best team in the region, and with the GS points to back it up, not in the top flight?
These are not final, or Stars of Mass hates NEFC so much that they would do anything to lessen their appeal to prospective players, and DO hate them very much.
No way they are final brackets and whoever is posting continuously about GS should be the do all, be all in ranking for tournaments really doesn't have a clue. Spirit adjusted and so will Stars. There are better teams in the lower brackets that will move up regardless of GS.
Yes agreed tournament directors will do there job, no way they just follow GS points as they are very irreverent based on how many GS events a team has attended. Wish GS would put another algorithm for events per attendance. If a team is attending 10 tournaments and are receiving points in 2 league play then some out there in this intelligent soccer world will put that that in the equation vs. a team that strong and doesn't attend as many maybe 4 tournaments a year and play in 1 league.
We have to assume that PDA does not want Dragons in top flight where they might do well or perhaps play the Storm. As for MF NE NPL, from what we have read on this blog, they are a brand new team that has not even played together before as a whole. Seems unfair to place them in top bracket over Dragons or a team like NEFC. Also nice of Stars to put themselves in weakest bracket of the division.
Also why is South Shore in 2nd flight?
Maybe if PDA didn't remove their event from GS, when looking at the GS historythe event would have seen that the Dragons had the below results at that event. Poetic justice.Dragons vs1-0 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED3-2 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 010-0 NEW YORK SC G01PS. South Shore was also in the 2nd flight at PDA and didn't place.This is why you have to love this board - Spirit and Stars flights make it all worth it. The soccer people know why they are doing this, we are just having fun with it.
8:54 We scrimmaged CFC two weeks ago and from what we saw they are well coached. Almost never lost their shape as a team and filled space really well. Also liked that their keeper rarely punted the ball, choosing instead to work the ball out to their backs. Don't know who the coach is, but encouraged and instructed instead of yelling and hollering. They could use a few more athletes, but the same is said about many teamsPL Parent
Stars of Mass did the same thing last year. They had top teams playing in the so called second flight. I honestly do not think there is a top flight for Stars. I said this last year and people said no way and that the Blue flight was the top flight. I honestly think that the Stars of Mass intends on putting teams who haven't played against one another in flights as long as it looks like it will be competitive. It is good to play different teams and have different challenges. JMO.
CFC will again be a non factor. They didn't get any game changers at tryouts which they needed. Their goalie even left for Penn Fusions NPL team. The areas top players seem to head to Penn Fusion. Don't see that changing.
This will sound like a knock but it is not meant to be. SJEB and MF NE NPL will not win a game or score a goal in the tournament if they stay in the brackets where they are. Every team wants to be in the best bracket but not if you can't be competitive.
FC Stars has 2 top flights
Non-factor how can you say any team is a non-factor I'm hoping the coach and team show up this fall and get better as we all want better teams around the area so other top teams around the country will come our region to play vs. traveling to Eclipse, FC Stars, Jeff Cup Etc. Imaging we had the top 10 GS teams in the county just in NY,NJ,& PA and all attend PDA's tourney, Spirit, and Delco that's 3 tournaments that are drivable to 90% of the area and I guarantee it will attract the top teams in the other regions to come play. The more we have quality teams in the area the better. Build it and they will come. lol
Well said 12:25. Wouldn't it be great to attend a top tournament that had teams from all over the country in, and then drive home after your two games on Saturday were played. Or at least not have to drive 6 hours on Sunday when those games were over.
won't happen GS is evil don't forget
1225 I like what you said, would love to have a less than 2 hour drive every weekend playing top notch teams. Let all that major traveling of 6+ hours or more happen when they play collegiately.
11:26Which CFC did you scrimmage?
I believe CFC will surprise a few people this year. They did get upgrades all around. They have a good bench player from PF last yr then starts for CFC. The new coach was a coach at PF last yr. I believed he coached the u13 NPL team. I heard the CFC gk that went to PF NPL team was actually cut from CFC. Why would you leave an ECNL team to go to a NPL team? That makes no sense.
CFC did pick up players several players are from Bucks ECNL team and a few from NJ. So they are attracting players but will probably take a few months to get on the same page but I say they are above FC Bucks but a notch lower than PF. Yes the coach was from PF he has the last years U13>14 NPL and U14>15 ECNL teams. --PF
All this Penn soccer talk is making me very tired, could it be that underwhelming??-PU
Btw, Connecticut calls themselves CFC as well. Confusing
We scrimmaged Continental FC. Couldn't get the other CFC to drive 6 hours for a scrimmage. As mentioned, they do many things the right way. It was tough for them to generate much of an offensive push, but will come for them in time too. They have a good coach.PL pareent
Hey 2:48. Made sure to give the Penn United parents word about this blog. They should be conversing with you sometime in the near future about how your daughters team will do against theirs. Anything for you bud.
Why would anyone refer to Connecticut FC on this blog as it's more the NY, NJ, PA. LOLSorry but I still think PA is diluted with to many ECNL clubs in one area, so many regular Region 1 non-ECNL teams will still be stronger like Penn Legacy, YMS, HMMS, PA Classics, Etc.
I'm looking forward to seeing how much PF has improved, and how much their starting lineup changes from last year. They gained six players of starter quality (3 from PL, 1 from HMMS, 1 from LVU, and 1 from PF who had been playing ECNL a year up).But they lost one starter who is now playing up at PF U15 ECNL, lost another starter who is now playing ECNL in California, and lost the gymnast, who would have started if she were around at all last season. The other players who left are starting for CFC, PF NPL, or are playing in MD.So the bench has definitely improved. And I think a lot of the new players play forward and in the midfield, so PF should score a lot more this year. It'll be fun to watch. I think they win Spirit in a cakewalk.
Thanks 3:50, will make sure to up my meds, like the entire bottle.Sweet dreams, and I missed geography class, what state is between NJ and Ohio, Kentucky?
For the coaches on here. How do you handle players jumping around from team-to-team? I am a parent, but have also coached on the club level, but it's not part of my livelihood. At this age I know there has been some serious movement that without knowing the details, you shake your head. In some sense the kids most likely to move are the ones who moved before. Easy come, easy go I guess. Must be hard to deal with though, especially when they move to a rival.
406 It's U14 last year before HS for most, kids will change teams no matter what those parents will never be happy so what is there to handle just move on and support your child the best you can.
4:06. You are right in some ways. It is a tough decision for the parents and player, especially if they have been with a club and a group of parents for a long time. But most of these girls have friends on almost every team, either from playing 3v3's or summer teams together. So its not like their moving to a team of total unknowns. Of course then you get the family that is on three different teams in three years, yet always complains that there was something wrong with the last team.
@3:50, that would be pretty impressive, going from not winning a game at Delco to incorporating 6 new players in just three months, and winning the whole thing at Spirit. You do know that other teams in the tourney have added quality players too, or do you really think that Penn Fusion is the only team that can attract new players? Let's see if you can even get by Wildcats and get out of your brackets, but I don't see you beating Boston Breakers or South Shore.
If your child is being developed in the position that she is most talented at, why change teams. If your child is being developed at a position that is not her best position but it helps the team than you should go ahead and change teams so that your child is being developed at a position that gives her the most upside.Does anyone have a problem with this philosophy?.
It is development of your child vs. the good of your team.
I agree, 4:37, it will be impressive.
Development sorry folks at U14 if your child is playing top level she should be near or peaking out on the development side, it's all building soccer IQ now and understand different coaching concepts and formations. If your child isn't individually development on her skill level than they need to move or get training for it as they are behind. Many coaches on the top level are looks for a girls playing movement with and without the ball along skills they bring on the table already.
5:24 don't believe the hype
Put Another way.Your daughter is a great striker and good defender. she has been playing on a team for two years. Defender leaves. team and team decides to put second best striker on the team in your daughters position and move your daughter to defender to help the team. Your best position is striker and has this position has most upside but playing defender fills the hole vacated and allows the coach to put best 11 on the field.Do you leave for a team that will play your daughter in her best position for development purposes or do you stay with team that is now playing your daughter on the defensive side.Assume for this example that she is the best striker on the team.Note: There nothing wrong with playing defense and you can reverse the example if you like.Assume also you spoke with the coach and he has said that he is doing this because it is best for the team.Your daughter would like to go back to her natural position but is willing to bite the bullet for the team.Anyone?
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