MAPS/EDP tournaments to end Fall - EDP Cup a home run for a local event. MAPS Cup not in bad shape just needs 3 strong GS teams to enter and join PA Crew (PAW) and Harford (MD)EDP CUP 2014 FALL [U12-U14]10/11/2014 - 10/12/2014TOP Flight ONLY – GS Projection = 9,500 pts4 PDA STORM (NJ)21 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE) 41 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)42 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 74 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ) 85 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)94 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT) 220 NJCSA ELITE (NJ) MAPS 2014 FALL CHALLENGE11/15/2014-11/16/2014177 SDFC Samba287 FC Copa Academy Lima NPL 629 FC Bucks Esprit ECNL798 Hub Soccer of Denville Lightning890 Washington United Fever '021840 Hunterdon FC Dynamo1860 Westfield SA FC Premier Coloccini2107 SDFC Tigress3038 Downtown United SC Girls Lightning4075 Cranbury SC ChampionsN/A Delaware Union U13G Navy N/A Stateline FC DynamiteMAPS CUP 2014 FALL [U11-U14 GIRLS]11/22/2014-11/23/201466 PA Crew Academy Blue76 Harford FC United Thunder 131 Jersey Premier Soccer Flash 153 Mercer FC Spurs258 STA Morris United 01337 Harleysville HFC Ready '01393 NJ Crush FC Tsunami White621 DMS Soccer GU13 Academy2161 Edison United SA Lightning Bolts2334 Medford Strikers SC Soul
It's old NJ Force parents still throwing stones after their old teams nasty breakup. Some bad blood there over that situation.
As an outsider they seem to have a claim. I did not see any of the games and could not tell you if they were s close as the scoreline.NJ Galaxy 2-0 LVUNJ Wildcats 2-0 LVULook the same to me. SHould be an interesting game when they play.
11:45/11:49: again, you accuse others of being classless while you sit on a soccer blog about 12 year old kids mocking another team's coach. Talk about sad. I'd stoop to your level and accuse you of being a human stain, but even stubborn stains come out with a little soap and water. Give it a try - shower today. And while you're cleaning up your act, ponder burying the hatchet with Frank. It's not his fault your kid didn't cut it with his squad. Look on the bright side- things have obviously gotten better for you and your child - stardom on new team, a new facility (soon), another team's points, and solid EDP status that goes with them. You even get to train on the side fields where we practice......Enjoy it rather than being bitter about the past. It's healthier. Focus on your kid's future!
EDP cup has some good match ups but looks like 9500 for PDA Storm. Bracket "A" is awesome.
9:42 not to be a jerk, but I have to correct you on the 9,500 you forgot subtract their 20%. should be around 5,000 pts if they win.I do agree that one flight should be nice - PDA Storm has a chance to play some teams from regionals again. I read on this board that Athletico aka Sachem (is this true) kind of like Manalapan and their alias NJCSA Elite. Why do teams do that? I don't get it is it the coach or is it just a bunch of players as secondary players for one.
Wow- so let's walk thru this based on 9:09's post:Former Force parents are angry with Wildcats coach, because before they broke up Force with their mid season mutiny to join forces with NJCSA coach and founder they tried to break up Wildcats to join Force and failed. That makes them angry because they had no "out" on that one and left objective observer shrugging their shoulders wondering how silly and manipulative parents can be when their perception is that organization is preventing their child from becoming the next budding Olympic star. It's no wonder they're vindictive here, and like their coach to be angry, too. I'd opine simply that life's too short. Just enjoy it.
What's more they stoop to lying about the other teams coach as he never threw any chair or received any red cards or reprimands.While their current coach has been banished as a player and removed as a coach from leagues, coaching jobs and clubs for repeated red cards and threatening behavior to the point where referee assigners in his former club refused to assign referees to any more of his games if he coached.Now you play for this coach currently with no problem while you lower yourself to make up lies and throw them out anonymously to attack your former coach(one of MANY former coaches for you guys) and even use the coaches name on the blog.You have reached a number of all time lows with this recent behavior.
EDP might want to sell tickets to the game when these two teams play. With all of the bickering and bad blood in the back and forth, it's going to be an Intergalactic Battle for the Mastery of Manhassett.Don King couldn't have asked for a better lead up. Let's get ready to rumble!.
Who's it gonna be-the ferocious felines of the jungle or the tenacious interplanetary starship troopers?
I guess the NJSA Galaxy people really are on the warpath because of a game day and time having to be moved.
They're not just angry- they're iinsufferable. They have accused the coach, the organization or the actual children playing on Wildcats (depending on how you read their sometimes grammatically challenged posts) of being afraid to play them. Crackpots that need to get on with their lives. If something is missing in their lives that warrants this, I'd suggest they try out for Real Housewives of NJ. I hear they film some in the Jersey shore area this year. Producers might find their nastiness ratings-worthy and they can have a purpose beyond 12 year old's soccer game.I for one will wake up tomorrow and go to a satisfying job and get home to a beautiful wife and smart & talented kids and the end of the day whether or not my 12 year old wins today. Is it that important?
** at the end of the day
WildcatsTotally classless since you need to hide to behind a screen to lie.how about this facts:Wildcats coach - F license known for intimidating his own players, throwing chairs, smoking cigars on the field, being a former parent coach who took advantage of his daughter's talent to pursue a business opportunity. What an example. doc - questionable reputation, kick out of a few places. With the most embarrassing being when he was shown the door at Freehold SC some years ago for overcharging parents basically stealing from the club.What a role model. Research parents research!Another fact njsa has 3 players from last season Wildcats squad that by the way barely had enough players to field a team at the of the season and had to sing several force players to be able to do so.This means Wildcats benefited from force falling apart. What you have for me cats I want facts, club names and league names not just speculations
Here is a recent example of the njsa galaxy coaches behavior.I will leave it to you to decide if it is inappropriate.as stated above the Galaxy U13 team now trains at manahasset park where the entire wildcats clubs teams train.They are the only njsa team that trains there.they practice early and finish as the wildcats teams are arriving.It's a free country so no problem right?well as some of the wildcats players arrived early for practice last week,the galaxy coach approaches the wildcats parents and players and invites them to join his training session and to put on NJSA shirts over their wildcats practice gear.After the wildcats parents and players declined and went over to tell the wildcats coaches what happened a wildcat rep goes over and tells the galaxy coach not to approach their players and parents and that it was not acceptable to invite their players to train with his and to suggest they put on njsa gear The Galaxy coach responded to the wildcat rep that they were not "your players" and that he approached the wildcat parents with the invitation to join his session, not the wildcat players and that he is allowed to do that.so the wildcats rep tells the Long Branch Rec Dept people on site who manage the park and they go over and tell the Galaxy coach that if he ever does this again his teams permit of use for the site will be revoked and they will not be allowed to train there anymore.You decide.
A nj force parent reached out to wildcats when their team folded due to players leaving mid season for galaxy.The parent said there were a few force players who tried to stay and keep the team together for the balance of the season but they did not have enough to field a team. Only then did they move to wildcats. That group tried to stay loyal to their force team and finish the season but the group that had already jumped to galaxy left them without enough to field a team, and only left when force was no longer a viable team to finish the season. Our coaches daughter finished her youth soccer career 15 years ago and he has been a very successful trainer and coach with multiple teams and players going on to great success ever since.
My daughter does not play for wildcats but she has trained many times with the wildcats coach since she was very young and I saw many outstanding players from the top clubs in his sessions with her.From what I saw the kids love to train with him and he is far from what you describe.Clearly you have an axe to grind with him.
My view is that the post from NJSA is from 1 parent who seems to have a vindictive personality and just won't stop. I know some of the parents and players on that team and they are nice people with terrific girls. The wildcat parents and coach should stop responding to the lunacy of this one parent. It is not worth it and quite frankly I and the rest of the blog are sick of hearing about it. Move on.
My daughter does play for Wildcats. She does training sessions (non team) with coach. Boys and girls from many clubs attend these sessions. None of them are coming to watch coach do what you accuse him of doing.
You're all dopes and both NJSA and Wildcats are playing you. First off, most of you on either team have had your daughters already on 2-5 teams where most of your kids are not yet 13. Second, your daughters are not that good. Meaning that they are average local level players who would be just as well off playing in your own town. Third, you have no reason to beef that one coach approached another team's parent because 90% of the players on both teams have parents who either enjoy being approached, suggest an openness to being approached or enjoy the notion that both NJSA and Wildcats employ coaches who are better at recruiting than they are at coaching. Those teams don't exist...your team doesn't exist without exactly this type behavior.Both NJSA and Wildcats are laughing at you while they cash your check.
Wildcats coach seems like a bad example for young girls. Glad he's not my daughters coach..
Just make sure you have that CASH for those extra training session, hope IRS isn't watching this blog.
1:20 yes, it's the same parents who have been on 4 teams in 3 years.they hate every coach and he is just their latest ex-coach .It will be someone else's turn soon.1:49 and 2:51 same thing.Also remember there is an ex manager of wildcats team who is an ex-freehold coach who still harbors great hatred and bitterness towards wildcats and their coach.He is now with one of the njsa teams and recent post alluding to wildcats doc and freehold club is probably him.Amazing after 18 months after leaving team he is still obsessed.
Meow meow here kitty kitty did you lose to Second Tier Academy today?Here kitty kitty....
4:48 who is a second tier academy? Which academy are you talking about?
that was the STA hater.It seems every team, coach and club has their haters.
What was result of STA vs Wildcats in EDL today? Big game for both as both of those teams are contenders in that division.
Wildcats 2STA 0
Yes 5:30pm it is only 12 year old girls soccer guys.The level of hatred from some of you is abnormal.You are obviously taking this way too personally.It's really sick and disgusting.
Yes, it must be something in the water in NJ that makes these parents so crazy..
The common thread in all the negative posting on this site is the wildcats. They attack MF, NJX, PDA Force and now galaxy. Every issue on this blog is Wildcats vs somebody.
What about Crush FC, any problems with them?
the Crush copter is circling as we speak!
what were the pre-ecnl and ne-npl results sat and today?
Can't wait to see that match up. Red card coach attacks the old guy in the chair during pregame warm ups thinking he's a soft touch, but the old guy surprises Red card by jumping up and smashing Red card over the head with his chair. Then he proceeds to burn Red card's left eye out with his cigar. Red card is rushed to a trauma center by the helicopter parents while the old guy gets signed by the WWE. That's entertainment!
Thanks for info. So besides MF and PDA. What are other options for u14 pre college club in area. Club to really help identify top talent next year for our girls.
Copa and NYSC & SJEB are excellent choices for college exposure. They are very solid Clubs, although the individual teams may suffer from lack of depth.STA and NJ Crush are not very good clubs.The PDA's and Match fits of the world have their own independent issues.
As a complete outsider who has witnessed both of these coaches in action multiple times and even had a conversation with one at a tournament, here is my opinion. The older guy who coaches the Wildcats is a bit gruff and draws attention to himself with his cigar chomping, yelling, and chair.The former NJ Force coach, aka P.T. Barnum is a complete narcissist.I'm assuming he is the "red card" coach. He acts like a total fool on the bench. I've looked him up on social media based on someone's advice here and was shocked to fiend him interacting with players on that medium. Totally inappropriate in my opinion. If my kids coach was commenting on her instagram, there would be a big problem. No axe to grind with either guy, just calling it like I see it.Neither team puts anything of quality on the field from a coaching perspective. Force team has never won a thing. Wildcats claim to fame is beating Storm once. I'd rather watch a team like STA play than either of them.
You are a bit out of the loop my friendForce coach is not red card coach and Force coach is not NJSA coach that posts are referring toNJSA coach basically took the Force coaches players and formed his team that way.I really don't get the Wildcat Coach attacks. Have seem him twice and although he is very vocal to his team during the game, so was our coach. Saw nothing out of the ordinary.
8:03- You think its "normal" that a coach participates regularly on this site?. Constantly trashes other teams, clubs, parents and former players.
I absolutely do not agree with bashing teams, coaches or individuals on this blog, but that seems to be what everyone does on this blog. I am just going by what I have seen in person. Truth is,we don't really know who are behind these posts and probably never will, but the posts don't seem to match what I have seen, that is all I am saying.
This is an anonymous blog, and nothing on here can be taken seriously. Its really just a place to brag, or trash, depending on your mood. Its very similar to BOTN, but the responses are not real-time edited, although they can be deleted if found too negative, or personal. Its is what it is, a form of entertainment.
what happened with the EDP Open Cup Brackets? They were posted, now they are gone?
There are some very intelligent and insightful bloggers that bring a value to this site.#2- Did a great job but had to go into hiding after being accused of being a PDA Shill, now posts anonymousGS guy- Does an amazing job calculating GS points, rankings and breaking down big tournament brackets.ECNL/NPL guy- constantly updates league standings and highlights good games each weekend.The Wildcats are like the comics. The coach is cartoon character that barks, explains every loss as another bad break, and boasts about who they are playing as opposed to who they beat. I am rooting for them to win NJ State Cup. That will be some great posts. My favorite were the EDP Champions. They were the only team that weren't a champion and were excited to play another July tournament in Hammonton.
@ 12:50You want everyone to believe a couple township employees are enforcing a made up rule?...Where on the Long Branch field use form does it note your alleged "violation".Too funny :)
If you think real time editing prevents trashing teams, coaches and players, think again. Both is just as trashy as any other youth sports blog.Cheap, low level form of entertainment based on the jersey shore reality TV theory that people love to watch others behaving horribly. It makes people feel better about themselves that at least they do not act like that.The fact that is often at the expemse of children is disturbing. Even if the adults seem to bring it on themselves, leave the kids alone.
My guess on the EDP open cup is that teams got a look at the posted competition and saw that there are a few good teams there, but an easy tournament to advance in. So now there will probably be some late entries..ala PDA.
Yes, very inaccurate to assume you know who is responsible for each post on an anonymous blog.There are people who come on blog just to play you and pose and insert themselves into a conversation to stir things up. That is how some of them get their yuks. But they are just pulling your chain.It makes them feel clever to fool someone and goad them into attacking someone they think is responsible.
9:57 stop trying to stir it up again.Leave it alone so we can move on.
11:54 what are you basing your assessment on. Seems to me that it's your personal -edp based opinion.
well, 11:54 has one of those clubs right, and we all know which one, don’t we.
There will be plenty of openings at match fleece, very shortly. They already have 4 teams at this age group that are starting to crack. They only care about 1 team and they are up north. Northeast Npl will be a disaster next spring, not even the fall
Is there any chance the MF NPL team just leaves and goes back to NJX? That seems like it would make everyone happy. Did anyone on the team except the mommy coach want to merge with MF?
At 10:30.Are you asking because you are from one of the two teams that I do not recommend?-Soccer Nut-
3:09 what makes you think people are unhappy?I know a few girls that play for NJX and they are happy currently. Looking forward to play on ECNL soon. Do you have any insight?I would guess, strictly a guess here. Some players given an opportunity while others are not. I can see why some may be unhappy.
Is it the few girls that dont have to show up for practice and play 95% or 100% of every game. Or is it the select girls that have open dialogue with the coach and the rest can go scratch. They should be the happy ones.
4:14 who are you talking about
EDP cup brackets and schedules are upAnd look the same.
EDP Cup looks competitive, Calvert lucked-out to be in the B bracket. I think it will be Storm vs. Calvert, with Storm winning 3-1.
A rare chance to get a shot at PDA Storm in state. Would be shocked if they don't come out of there with a lot of GS points.
We are now back to an old topic and the answer remains the same. If you are a top player your best bet is PDA and MF. Proven track record here and the college coaches will come here first. Although many like to bash it is the truth. Not always the prettiest way but it is the best way. We have all established that to some degree... Then there are the next group of players. That is where your daughter needs to figure out where she fits in best. Then let it all play out......
Unfortunately for us parents it's a bit more complicated than that -Soccer Nut-
Bethesda Alignments are out. Have fun.
can you list the brackets for bethesda top flight?It is not yet up on their tournament website.Thanks.
Generation Adidas Bethesda Tournament-Girls11/14/2014-11/16/2014Accepted Teams 409 Total: Girls U9 Girls U10 Girls U11 Girls U12 Girls U13 PotomacBlue Green CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)BRYC 01 ELITE (VA) FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD) ChesapeakeBlue Green MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL (NJ)VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) EMPIRE REVOLUTION ROCHESTER 01/02 (U12) (NYW)NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ) PatriotBlue Green HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)WNY FLASH ACADEMY 2014 FLASH ACADEMY GU12 (NYW)NJCSA GALAXY (NJ)FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD)FC UNITED U13G ACADEMY (IL)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)ISA 01 NPL (NYE) LibertyBlue Green YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)STARZ '01 (MD)PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)GPS-MA NPL (MA) PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (NYE)BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U13 PRE-ECNL (VA) FreedomBlue Green PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)X-TREME SELECT SC X-TREME '01/02 SELECT - BLACK (ON)SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE)DC STODDERT BLUE METROS 01 (VA) CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED (VA)MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE (MD) AtlanticBlue Green MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK NORTH (NJ)PA CREW U13G WHITE (PAW)BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 WHITE (MD)CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL (LAZARES) (PAE) BEADLING SC BEADLING WHITE (PAW)THUNDER SC FURIA ROJA (MD)MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)CLEVELAND UNITED SC CLEVELAND UNITED WHITE (ON) Girls U14 Girls U15 Girls U16 Girls U17 Girls U19 10/6/2014 8:45:38 PM
Matchfit NPL is in second flight while Wildcats in first flight.?I
As it should be
Idiots. MFU would never put both teams in the same flight. Just not going to happen. Too much to lose.
Wildcats have been looking for a top tournament to prove themselves in - have at it, and good luck.
Match Fit have no control or say! If they did their NPL U14 team would be attending
Maybe Wildcats will win a game at this tournament. If not, probably just using their subs in more meaningless games.
They absolutely can say where to flight their teams or request. You have no clue if you are going to sit here and say the DOCs do not have say or control where their teams are flighted.
WOW wildcats in top flight.....they are gonna get slaughtered. And what no PDA teams in Bethesda...I wanna see this PDA Shore Fusion play in a top tourney. So far they play EDP 2nd div central and pretty much kill every one. Storm and Ajax have proven to be good teams but I would like to fusion in some competitive tourneys besides the TRFC Labor Day.
You obviously have no clue, if the DOC has all this power. Then explain to me how he is able to move teams at U13, but when it comes to his team at U14 he was denied to be moved up to top flight and denied when asked to accept his NPL team
Wildcats bracket in WAGS Cup Flight this coming weekend just as tough as Bethesda.Many of the same teams.In addition to FC Virginia the #1 ranked Virginia team they play Lake Forest the #1 team from Illinois in bracket play.Both are the pre-ecnl teams from those clubs.
Don't forget the 4th team in wildcats cup flight bracket at WAGS is Tri-State Elite the #1 team from ohio south.I think that bracket is maybe tougher than what they will face at Bethesda.They will be playing the best competition out there in both tournaments.
I believe tri-State just beat PDA Storm 2-0 in chicago tournament last month.They may just be the best U13 team out there at least east of the mississippi.
Nah-Tris State won one game at Eclipse tournament.Got Soccer doesn't have them Playing PDA at Eclipse
Funny 10:08. How did you do against that powerhouse Medford team this past weekend? You're in that 2nd division for a reason. Enjoy it.
Mf npl in second bracket again, lol. If you would have stayed njx you would be in the top for sure. Only thing holding you back is your own club match fleece. Hows that amazing training going for your guys have you seen much improvement? 1 trainer for 40 players, and half of those players aren't even matchfit players and they get more attention. The funny part is the ones mf is paying attention are going to wildcats next year. Guess they wont be getting another entire team. About time someone uses mf. Laughing all the way to the bank.
Not sure what MF NPL is complaining about. MF trainers aren't magicians. This team has ignored technical training for years.They are in the right bracket. They complain about unbalanced NPL league play yet they are going to finish 3rd or 4th in NPL this fall.
@4:45PM yesterday. I was talking about the EDP "OPEN" Cup. Brackets. Those were posted and then taken down.
No need to pick on or insult the mom coaching NJX-MF. She is a nice person but she is also managing from fear. Her kid is not an academy player. Her club does not fully support the MF deal. Most of the other players are not academy players. The MF leaders are milking her, the team and the club for money, fields and players. While doing so, the combined leadership of MF and NJX has not put this team in State Cup while asking them to play league games requiring a lot of travel. And lastly, some players get preferential treatment creating distrust and bitterness.Nice person, yes. Qualified leader, no.She should look to create a new team next year for her daughter and those who are not academy level players and stop selling the "let's play on Matchfits 4th team in the age group next year."She's the same as the Freehold guy. Nice people but in way over their heads. But they do excel an protecting their own child.Some people just love the logo.
Watching these kids play on both the ECNL and NPL team, it is pretty clear to me that these teams when combined will be average in the ECNL league next year.The issue is not the kids but the coaching and the training. What a waste !hey are destined to be like every other Matchfit team within the club. Nothing more than a stopping point for those kids that cant make the PDA ECNL team in NJ and for those that dont want to play on the NPL team.A few of the parents of the better players on both the NPL team and the ECNL team will smarten up after this year and make their way to PDA. The rest will be left to empty promises and their own parent's hubris that their child plays for an average ECNL team.
I give the Wildcats credit for always striving to be an Elite team without the PDA or MF backing. They do not shy away at playing the top tournaments or top teams. There is always 1 or 2 teams every year per age group outside of these ECNL teams who compete at the highest level. Some age groups it's Copa, SJEB, Crush, STA or some other teams. At this age group right now it is the Wildcats. I agree they have a ways to go but every year more top girls will come from other dysfunctional teams to play for them. The core girls on this team will not leave this coach. They will be a force at this age group for many years.
Sold out twice, once by njx and a second time from match fleece. Brought $30000 to mf to guarantee a starting spot and playing time for precious. Reality is half of the team brought over to mf are at the wrong level. Nobody backs baby into a corner. It was a nice run, time to move on. Stopper/ sweeper can only cover so much ground.
I could see players from NJX joining Wildcats next year when they are not the ECNL team.
At this point I've seen the MF pre-ECNL, MF NPL, PDA pre-ECNL, and PDA South teams play. I'm from PA, and have no dog in this fight, but here are my opinions as an outsider.The pre-ECNL teams and PDA South all appear to be coached to read the game, figure out the other team's weaknesses and then exploit them appropriately. The default is to build up from the back and play possession soccer, but when the opportunity arises, direct play and quick counterattacks should be used. MF NPL played directly, and when that was ineffective, they played directly some more. And when that didn't work, they decided to play directly. Granted, this was back when they were still NJX, so maybe they have changed their philosophy. I also noticed that they played with a very short bench: not much subbing going on.Playing against the pre-ECNL teams was an uneasy experience. I had the feeling that either team could score against us at any moment. They are dangerous squads. No lead feels safe against them, and when you are losing it feels like you have a mountain to climb.PDA South seemed very much like a PDA B team. Played nice soccer but just didn't have the horses to carry the day. But they stuck with the plan and did not resort to kick and run when they got down. PDA pre-ECNL did the best job in getting all their players adequate playing time. Easy to do as they appeared to have a deep team.MF pre-ECNL and MF NPL did the worst job getting their subs in. I did not notice how well PDA South did with getting everyone some minutes...which probably means they did a decent job with it.Like many others, I'd rank these four teams:PDA pre-ECNLMF pre-ECNLPDA SouthMF NPLHaven't seen Wildcats yet but hope to soon.
Don't knock NJX or MF for what they are trying to do. They are just emulating PDA. PDA has 3 of the top teams in NJ. PDA achieved this by having consistent training and coaching and a proven track record. No other club has gotten to this point. MF is just trying to get there with having 3 or 4 teams. Maybe it will work or maybe it won't.
Folks relax. This plays out all the time with ECNL and NPL at this age. The move was good for the 5-7 kids that will be on the ECNL team. If you think the current pre ECNL and the addition of these kids will not be a very strong team you are delusional. This is always the way it goes here. You can't blame the ones that don't make it for trying to make it and coming over to MF. The girls that do not make it to ECNL will either stay NPL or join a team like Wildcats. Wildcats are a strong team now but the enhanced ECNL teams next year will be at a completely different level. Again, this is proven year after year when the U14 ECNL teams are put together.....
Wonder what will happen to the bottom players on the ECNL team.
Next year all this will be irrelevant. Wildcats will not be on the same page as PDA ECNL-Storm and MF ECNL-top Jefferson players/top NJX players. PDA knows what they have. Lets see if MF knows what they have to create the team.
Win or lose, our daughters want to play at the highest level of competition out there. In truth every one of us on this sight have daughters who want the same as well. Playing the best level of competition is the best way to get there, obviously.Always has been.Some parents and coaches from other teams who kept saying wildcats were done and were being left behind by own their childs teams and other NJ teams in other leagues and would play 2nd tier comp have found out the reverse is true. Maybe, just maybe, you were wrong and they will be just fine while others will travel as far or farther and will not be playing nearly as many elite teams when you compare overall schedules at the end of the season. If they are competitive in their games this weekend at WAGS and at top flight in Bethesda next month great, but either way they will have tested themselves against the best and will come out better for the experiences.Also they are 2-0 in their league and Calvert Crew has already lost to Pipeline while Wildcats just beat STA this weekend.Of course you will continue to attack us and predict our demise. You have done that for 18 months and predicted we were going to get smoked,demolished ,etc every tournament when we were in top flight. In the meantime our girls are working very hard, getting better, and are extremely happy with each And we couldn't be more proud of them.
Wildcats and Greater Binghamton the beneficiaries of increase in GS points.Former second flight teams headed to top flight in MD mid NovemberGood luck.Virginia FC and Cincy Cup Gold the class of that tourney's top flight but watch out for Match Fit pre ECNL.Second flight appears to favor NEFC Elite
Mf has done nothing but absorb entire quality town teams. Take three or four to their Ecnl team and let 3,4 or 5 leave and then get a few of pdas players that are unhappy to fill the holes. The 3,4 or5 that leave mf will go to teams like the wildcats. A couple of the better girls from wildcats and better town teams will tryout for match fleece and fill in the empty bank account for a year. Its the circle of life. I mean the circle of nj youth soccer.
Holy crap.. it's not even Wildcat Wednesday and there are non-stop posts about the Wildcats. Give it a rest.
Kudos to the wildcats for consistently playing in the top brackets and doing pretty well. Goes to show you when your team is committed to getting better and developing as a team and individuals.
hes 10:56 better worry about your own coach and your own daughters team.We are doing just fine on our own thank you.
Wildcats? How have you gotten better than last year? Who have you beaten this year that you did not last year? It ends after this season. Do you not see that? The ECNL will be at a different level. You are a good team that will be good for girls that do not make ECNL. That is a good thing. But to think it will be at same level is just not true......
will njsa teams and wildcats please not start up again.We understand there is some bad blood there from ex wildcats and ex force on both teams but let it rest.Move forward with your current teams or start your own private blog.some of the hatred displayed is ridiculous. If you are where you want to be then move forward and leave the past behind.The personal attacks have no place on this blog. Let it go.
You really think the top few players on MF/NJX team are going to travel and train with MF ECNL team up north? Or train with NPL team and play ECNL matches? I do not see that happening. Either they move to PDA ECNL team or as another said on here, go to Wildcats. MF ECNL will be fine, but the NPL team is another story. Yes, the majority of the team may be happy, but are you going to be happy playing in the second flight of tournaments behind your ECNL team? Last year you played in top flights and did well. Now you have to wait and see what tournaments your big brother plays in before playing the best flight. Just a mistake going to MF.
Yes, they will make it work to form a very strong ECNL team. The NPL level will be same level as what Wildcats will be playing next year so that will be a decision the parents and girls will have to make on their own....
11:57 - Your assumption is that PDA ECNL will take these players. This is a very strong team deep team and if they do take them there is a lot of competition for minutes are you sure they can handle not starting and not playing the minutes they have played in the past - not all kids can roll with that and not miss a beat.MF is taking a page right out of PDA's handbook. They will have their ECNL team play up North with an NPL team (Jaguars + wasn't Parsippany an okay NYCSL NPL team) that is going to be okay and compete with PDA North for players and in the South You PDA South and MF NPL fighting for players and both will travel with the ECNL teams.I
10:12 Like many others, I'd rank these four teams:We will get an opportunity to see how these teams matchup against each other and against the same competition.Both pre ECNL teams doing well - but EM looks like the team in the NE not Boston.PDA pre-ECNL MF pre-ECNLBoth these teams will play each twice in addition to the other PDA North - the other team. All the have done is matched the others blow for blow in NPL. The tied MF NPL and had similar results to PDA South. They will also play twice. I wouldn't put them as a top 5. But a 1-0 loss to WC Pre-ECNL and a 0-0 draw vs MF NPL tells me this team can ball.PDA SouthMF NPLI would agree with your top 5 in NJPDA/MF pre-ECNL, PDA South, MF NPL and NJ WildcatsI think PDA North, STA and NJ Crush would be my next 3 followed by NJCSA GALAXY & TSF to round off a pretty solid top 10 for NJ. NJ's top 10 much deeper than most if not all the states on the East coast.
Yes, NJ soccer clearly the best on Earth.What’s next Mars?
yeah FCC, yeah you know me, yo FCC, you know me...
12:26 prove me wrong - what other state has a deep top 10?Oh I forgot ranking teams and making lists is so yesterday.CAS & CAN are the best on earth - NJ is best on East Coast.Wait you think PAE is better don't you? Come on give me any state on the east coast that has a deeper top 10?if you like GSNJ#10 = 114 (and this doesn't include MF PreECNL and PDA North)NYE#10 = 171PAE#10=179MA#10 = 181
12:24 Are you using U12 results? Can't be based on U13.
Sounds like the man is trying to keep you down!
I am the all-powerful Oz, I control everything, even girls youth soccer...and yes I am trying to keep you down, actually I am trying to prevent you from writing anything positive.
Yes, New Jersey has some solid teams, you want a medal? How about going out and winning a medal this weekend at EDP Cup or Wags?
PDA Shore is weak, as could be expected first season. See if the PDA platform can move this team into higher brackets and not lose to Thistle and Medford. They now have EDP Open Cup to contend with soon and not sure where they are playing this weekend if at all, dont see them at EDP Cup or WAGS - are they taking a break or something this weekend? Remember they took an existing very good TRFC team and sprinkled in some new players, but think about it, is that how you form a high level team?
Hey 7:00 AM I have no idea how it felt to lose 2-0 this weekend as my child doesn't play for the team you are referring to. Just stating I would like to see that program/team play in more competitive tourneys than the TRFC cup and Kirkwood. That program is just a bunch of glorified town travel teams where they overcharge so you can say I play for...
I wouldn't say a very good existing team.....a little above average yes. The only way they were gonna get players was through the agreement, nobody wants to play for them anymore either.
They are in Kirkwood this weekend....nobody goes there anymore, do they?
I have no problem with the rankings posts. And I also have no problem saying that NJ has a better top 10 than PAE:For the record, my top 10 PAE:Penn LegacyPenn FusionPA Classics1776YMSFC RevolutionHMMSRageUkrainiansLVU-PA Guy
Win at EDP cup.. didn't you read? The winner is already decided. All the other teams should stay home.
Really, seems like Fusion are hiding. Even town teams are doing EDP Cup and other higher level. very interesting.well the team was ok, certainly not a lower level team. PDA should keep it going I believe with the name alone. Many good talent in that area.
I am confused here. MF ECNL team that we played is very talented team, I see that they are doing very well currently within the ECNL division. As an outsider why would MF consider moving this team? The game vs our team, I believe they had 15 players o bench, I thought the 11 starters were very good. Striker plus 2 wings, Mid field and CBs were all very strong. Plus I recognized 4 of those players at the USA Training Center so these players where recognized by outside coaches as well, please explain this whole NPL\ECNL at MF.
1257 has been "PDA-tized".
12:38 not u12 results - I can't believe you made me post these results to prove my point.U13 NPL Results compare PDA North, PDA South and MF vs same teamsPDA North 4-3 vs Penn Fusion SA 01 NPLPDA South 1-0 vs Penn Fusion SA 01 NPLMatch Fit NPL 1-1 vs Penn Fusion SA 01 NPLPDA North 6-1 vs FC Bucks 01 NPLPDA South 5-0 vs FC Bucks 01 NPLMatch Fit NPL 5-0 vs vs FC Bucks 01 NPLPDA North 4-3 vs World Class FC 01 NPLPDA South 3-1 vs World Class FC 01 NPLPDA North – W 3 – GD +7PDA South – W 3 - GD +8Match Fit NPL – W 1 – T – 1 – GD 5+Looks about the same to me Plus head 2 headMatch Fit NPL 0-0 PDA North PDA North vs MF NPL results compareMatch Fit NPL 4-0 vs Albertson SC 01 NPLPDA North 5-0 vs Albertson SC 01 NPLMatch Fit NPL 4-0 vs Continental FC 01 NPLPDA North 3-0 vs Continental FC 01 NPLMatch Fit NPL 6-1 vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPLPDA North 3-0 vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPLMatch Fit NPL 5-0 vs Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL PDA North 5-2 vs Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPLMatch Fit NPL – W 4 – GD +18PDA North – W 4 – GD +16Also looks about the same. PDA North never did get much love on this board - but they are putting up similar number to PDA South and MF NPL that much is a fact.Like I said result compare is not that far off – I wouldn’t put them in top 5 but not far from it either if MF NPL and PDA South are in top 5 – throw in the PDA North 1-0 loss to WC pre-ECNL team some can argue they should be at u13.
Correcting my my math for PDA North GD not +16 should be +14
!:44/1:41- Thats how you support an opinion. Very impressive. Thank for taking the time
Thanks, 1:41. Nice post.So is it fair to say that in the NPLTop tier is PDA North, MF NPL, PDA SouthNextWorld Class, Penn FusionBottomAlbertson, MA teams, PA teams besides PFUnknownCT teams
2:03 I think PDA South and MF NPL for sure and I think PDA North based on results is saying they belong mixed in with the two. Again these are just results - but they are league results that sends it's champion to a National Event a little different than playing a tournament for a "medal".PennFusion can hang for sure - are they dual rostering pre-ecnl players? This team's results are way different than compared to their u12 results. Probably had a face lift as well. PA guy can speak to this much better than google can.World Class played the 2 PDA teams and lost both with a GD of -3 - that isn't to bad. So based on results I think you are right with your 2nd tier.We will find out more about the CT teams in October and where they belong so yes a big unknown for now. If ConnFC uses their 2014 Spring EDP (2nd Division) team they look like they will contend for a Post season spot. FSA is a mystery Soccer+ merger they have a large player pool I would imagine - might take them a little while to get on the same page might also contend. Not sure if we have any CT posters than can add something to this.Albertson, ConDelco and FC Bucks probably on the bottom. the MA teams can turn things around with some good results in October and maybe join the 2nd tier, both have large player pools, you never know what the Spring brings.
Looking at the NYCSL NPLSTA NPL-01 & NJ Crush FC NPL-01 both using EDP to get their NJYSA cards so they can play state cup at the the same time try some different things in a league that has some good teams with nothing on the line but GS points. These teams will move up the GS charts as they get Fall EDP and NYCSL NPL points in addition to their tournaments.I think they are both in the top tier with New York Soccer Club NPL-01 who bolted from the EDL and Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01The 2nd tier is Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01& Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01While Quickstrike FC NPL-01 & New York Rush NPL-01 round out the league.
New England NPLNEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS clearly the dominant force in the league. While I think SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 & OAKWOOD SC belong in the top tier. while YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE & BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 are 2nd tier. AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK, SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G & GPS-MA NPL round out the league.
So looking at the 3 NPLs I just posted some comments on have some very solid teams in their top tier that will battle for a spot in Indiana at the nationals.MF NPL, PDA South & PDA NorthNYSC, STA, NJ Crush & ISANEFC, Oakwood & SeacoastEDL will join in the fun come Spring, what teams are in the top tier, your guess is as good as mine - based on their outdated club list - I would say NJ Wildcats for sure are the favorites. I thought LVU might be a player, but their EDP results tell a different story. TSF is not a bad team but I think NJ Wildcats can handle them, the rest are EDP 2nd Division teams - I don't see any of them making a run yet, will some add some players who knows. ALso, who did EDL replace NYSC and Manhattan with if Any? Calvert, Pipeline, NJCSA, Parsippany???Virginia NPL is a big question mark for me as I have to get familiar with all these teams. I know we had a VA poster on here once, not sure if they are still around and can shed any light on these teams.EDP & PAGS sorry guys - I'm sure you have some great games vs some great teams - but at the end of the day you win the league and you win a medal - you don't advance any further. I don't like following leagues like that they are a dime a dozen.Region I Champions League (RCL) - Division 1 is also a big question mark - is this replacing the Premier/Colonial/Northeast Leagues this Spring? They will be using Pro/Rel which is interesting.
Ecnl vs. Npl very big gap in quality of teams.
PDA North, isn't that World Class, hahaha!
I disagree, NPL is just as competitive, it's all good.
There are 2-3 NPL teams that could compete in the ECNL and there are several ECNL teams that would be better served in NPL, but the ECNL is clearly higher level. It is designed that way. Not even worth the discussion.
Not worth a discussion? You sound like my Mom, when I was 15! Everything rational discussion has some form of worth, perhaps not to you, but ultimately an opinion-based statement cannot by itself be of no worth. You dig me?
Yes, yes, I know, you’re Kung Fu is strong, but my Kung Fu is strong too, and I have the element of surprise, little one.
Calvert Crew is already in EDL this fall.
Obviously top NPL teams can't compete with ECNL or they wouldn't be the NPL team in their club. None of the NPL teams can beat their own clubs ECNL.
You are fishing, keep fishing FisherKing.
4:11 Just going by google. Calvert Crew is in EDP.EDL can be found at the below link:http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/easterndevleague/index_E.htmlLast spring EDP crossover games counted as EDL NPL games.Of course the teams in the league no better than us - Since EDP or EDL or MAPS or MSSL - well let's just say their website is a little outdated.I do agree Pre-ECNL is tops no doubt - but I also agree with each NPL having a few teams that can hang and even win against the lower level ECNL teams 80% of the time.The NPL finals will have 15 strong u13 teams. Some of which are Pre-ECNL teams from out west.
Good Lord - why are they posting results vs FC Bucks NPL, World Class NPL and Albertson NPL as if they have any meaning?Those are not the strongest of teams.....
4:24 is correct.. EDL isn't until Spring. Here is the schedule/results from this past spring. http://npleastern.demosphere.com/schedules/2014/66131451.html
So PDA Storm became PDA Shore in the EDP Cup? I thought Storm was listed in a previous release or am I mistaken?
Nope.. Storm is in EDP Cup not Shore.
4:40 you are probably confusing EDP Cup with EDP Open Cup. 2 different events. EDP Cup is this coming weekend in HammontonEDP Open Cup occurs between now and May. It is played over time like the State Cup.
....while other top teams are playing STALWARTS in friendlies.....But they're NOT chasing points, all. It's about DEVELOPMENT
PDA shore u13 is playing in Kirkwood not EDP cup. PDA STORM is playing in EDP cup. Got it.
PDA a oldest soccer pyramid scheme in NJ soccer. LOL
PDA's North and South NPL teams are not considered as strong as Storm. But they are not that far behind. The 2 NPL teams would compete well with the Pre-ECNL teams and would most likely end up middle of the pack.
How is PDA a pyramid scheme? No one is promised to be on any team and yet they always put out a great product.
EDP OPEN CUP brackets released again... THOUGHTS???https://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=40107&GroupID=398570&Gender=Girls&Age=13
How can they be playing friendlies if PDA Storm is in EDP Cup this weekend?Oh you must be the matchfit koolaid drinking guy from NJX.
PDA South > North NPLNot close
Yes -Matchfit will win it all.Calvert Crew has outside chance
What are you smoking 9:36. Obviously not from a PDA parent.
4:57 nailed it.
No one is chasing points these days.major leagues all get GS point - major tournaments all get GS points.GS not going away eventually will determine the flight your kid's team plays in.PS. It's always about development -but at some point you have to start playing the game to get a result and stop hiding behind the word "development".
8:16- LOL, thats funny.
Calvert Crew will win what? EDP Fall League - don't think so - NJ Wildcats will - Calvert Crew will win EDP Cup,maybe group but will get smoked in the final or they will earn some respect (PS. The Girls all earned respect, talking about the team as if they were a NWSL team even though they are u13)The below results tell me this team is not as strong as people think.PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 1-2JPS FLASH (NJ) 1-0STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 2-0NJSCA GALAXY (NJ) 2-0MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (NJ) 1-0Also the reason FC Bucks and others were used to compare teams - is because those are the teams all 3 teams played, you know apples to apples no one said they were the best in the league.
Lol. Columbus day weekend is the biggest tournament weekend. Teams know where they are playing in August. For PDA to sneak into EDP cup AFTER brackets were published is nothing but point chasing.
8:28 Agreed. Calvert Crew a good team, but not a top team like they were at younger ages.That EDP central will be a very balanced schedule. 1 and 2 goal differentials for most of the games.
Can somebody explain NJCSA Elite vs NJCSA Galaxy. Is one an A team and the other a B team? What teams merged to form each team?
8:41If you look at PDA Storm's schedule, They have been off for quite some time. Possibility a tune up before they begin up again next week. ?Lotsa gaps in those ECNL schedules
yeah, possible tune-up. The number one club in the universe didn't have anything planned for Columbus day weekend. STFU.
One is Elite, and the other is Galaxy
Calvert was B flighted a couple of times - Jeff Cup an example - and then lost 2 tournament finals in the springFirs was to World Class pre ECNL (Charlton), second to their local rival Harford.Still a very very dangerous team2-1 loss to FSA in spring EDP Cup cpuld also be seen as a final, as theyd have won the tourney if that went the other way.Was in that weird three way tie at Spirit and didnt move on after 2 1-1 ties (same as Wildcats)Take Calvert lightly at your own risk
@9;22Why would you think that PDA needs the points?They are already in top flights of every major tournament in the country.Points are not needed for this club to enter top flights. And they showcase their older teams in the ECNL? What would be the reason for the point grab?
9;54This the team thats gets blasted for not entering very many tournaments:And now its ego.You really have to do better than that.
Cherry picking a tournament after brackets are published is total BS. It's not like Columbus day was a surprise this year.
this is the team that says EDP competition is inferior. You have to do better than that.
It is a little odd that at their level they would be going into EDP cup rather than a highly competitive tournament against top national talent.Doesn't seem they are getting much diversity or high level competition with the ECNL games as have been posted.It's a contradiction to boast about how ECNL is the best but enter an EDP cup . Isn't that beneath the almighty PDA
^^^what he said
It seems like more laziness on the part of the coaching staff more than anything else.I wouldn't think anything more of it then it was the closes tournament to get some games in.They probably don't want to travel.
yes, lazy coaches. Didn't know that there would be a break in the schedule on Columbus day weekend.
"It's a contradiction to boast about how ECNL is the best but enter an EDP cup . Isn't that beneath the almighty PDA"Club looks darn good to me : life is full contradictions.Ain't that bitch.
If they are so dam good than have them compete outside of NJa very recent post just said that ECNL gets them into top flights of tournaments and this is what PDA chooses to enter! LOLLazy coaches?? For the money shelled out to that academy how can anyone make that statement like it is no big deal that they are basically taking the easy way out and jumping into a tournament that you and others have ridiculed.Life is full of contradictions, starting with YOU!!!
Calvert Crew is very strong still.They came up on a team bus and played 4 of their nj EDP league opponents on the same weekend 2 games saturday and 2 games sunday. Not surprised the games were pretty close.They got the 4 wins they came for.1-2 league result to pipeline may mean pipeline better than they were last spring.
10:56, are you a Calvert parent?
EDP Open Cup predictions first round= NJCSA beats MF blue. Flash beat MF. Copa, SJEB, Real Shore and Medford win first round. see if correct possibly.... mark it down. PDA Shore playing Real Shore, I think that group loses to Real Shore. And BOCA will lose to SJEB, just too good of a team for BOCA, but BOCA may have slight chance. In this open cup high ranked teams will show weakness and lower ranked teams have chances ie. Medford, BOCA, Real Shore.
What's up with December games for the EDP Open Cup. I hope they get in gear and these games are played early.
10:55I will let management know what a disappointment they are to you. I'm sure they will be heart brokenI will also let them Know that a Chicago trip , and trips planned way outside the state in near future, just aren't enough.Why are you so quick to put down the EDP teams?Looks like some very good teams in this group.Are you an ECNL snob?I'm not- There are Great teams inside and outside the ECNL.Please tell us what is the issue with a team playing in a home town tournment
the last minute entry after the brackets were published is an issue. It's called Cherry Picking points.
They are bringing more points than anyone else. The other teams should be grateful. I know if my daughters team were playing in it I would be happy. Bring the points and a chance to play them? I am there. WTF is with this blog?
and the fact that you run your mouth about how great everything is at "your level" is an issue the second PDA goes into what we all along have known is good competition your viewed jumps from "watered down State cups, and meaningless development leagues" to "are you an ECNL hater" and "what's wrong with a home town tournament"The issue is your pompous attitude and how you bend everything to make it sound OK for PDA but not for others.Looking forward to your "out of state" results
11:23Why does PDA need points?They don't need it for top bracketing.Yep sounds like a good way of just getting the work in against some very good teams .Nothing more , Nothing less.
11:35You seem AngryIt's just a simple tournament- with some very good competition.Perhaps you would like to talk about it.
I think we all have the PDA nonsense down
I think there is a term for it, it is called PDNV.
Great- Perhaps we can move on.
11:45, Very clever.
You are all overlooking to classic rematch to be played SundayPDA was denied a regional title last season by ATLETICOIts also overlooked that the three games in bracket are vs class competition - STA #1 team, FSA #1 team and Atletico, curently #3 in NYE and slayers of the mighty East Meadow, not once but twice4th game should be against Calvert.PDA in the tougher half by far, if you are wondering
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