2:55 where does Quickstrike fit into this? Did FC Westchester break apart and team up with NYSC?
One of the Weschester clubs is now with SURF NYHadn't heard the other is with NYSX
I think 2:42 doesn't realize exactly what an ID camp is
3:01 because they don't want you to see how many they offered to.
IF that ends up being true (roster larger than 20), shame on liars.
3:02 I never said I have no ulterior motive in my post. You are the one who said it was obvious what it was. So, go ahead, do tell. I'll be waiting.
Well they did separate them from the beginning but they then moved some of them around. Not sure they were not looking for a couple of off radar kids to add.
At $3,500 that's just filling the pockets. On another topic Matchfit tryouts tonight should be interesting.
Quickstrike partnership desolved, they are now teaming up with Rush Patriots out of Yonkers NY. I think it's a smart business decision, with the age split there were many teams with weaker rosters, this merger gives the combined club a chance to recruit and retool. Personally, I always considered FCW peasants, but I guess now they are our peasants.
Oh yeah - this blog is so much more pleasant when it is the PA parents posting...
Those who post actual facts on this blog and their experiences with clubs is great in my opinion. I'm glad people who know things first handed share their experiences. I'm sure the clubs aren't always glad.
Maybe you could save us some time, 3:23. What is your ulterior motive? I'll make it easier on you. Please choose all that apply from:a) You're from CFC, PL, or 1776;b) PF has recruited some strong players from your club, leaving it a shadow of what it once was;c) Your daughter used to play for PF/WCUSC, and got pushed down from the A team as new, recruited players arrived; d) You hate the ECNL because the ECNL claims to be the best and your daughter's team does not get to play the so-called "best" because the ECNL clubs are walled off from playing non-ECNL teams; ande) Some combination of the above.
3:25 I believe Match Fit tryouts are tomorrow night, not tonight.
You're not getting off that easy. You said it was obvious but obviously it isn't. Thanks for playing!
Man I can't for the arrival of the DA next year so all you ECNL peeps finally shut it.
No way to prove this obviously, but I'm not the poster who said your motivation was obvious. Or at least not so obvious that I can't narrow it down beyond four possibilities.I'm actually not that curious about your reason, I'm more curious as to why you feel so wronged that you'd want to make that post about a club, but then act like you were performing a public service. Curious as to what difference you think it all will make. And why you acted like your motivation was to protect parents from the big bad club.I get that you were originally just looking to do an internet drive-by, and probably don't want to share. No worries if you don't reply.
Why do you say MF tryouts will be interesting? Is it because daddy coach is now 100% out of the picture so MF should expect World Class players looking to escape the daddy coach and daddy DOC double whammy?
5:02 On point... Daddy coach brings kids there that never come out of the game... If you get him as your coach, you should run to the nearest township team if you want to play more than 5 minutes per half.
You're correct in that not much will be done about bad clubs who have no problem lying to and breaking contracts with parents but I'm glad to see there are more clubs around to choose from. Parents don't have to fork over thousands to scamming clubs so their daughters can play their sport. Maybe it will force clubs to give better customer service.e
I've moved a few times so my kids have played for four different clubs: one small town team, one medium sized town team with big aspirations, and two different ECNL clubs.I am aware of instances of all four clubs intentionally misleading parents. They are all the same in this regard.Do your due diligence and don't be afraid to leave if necessary. And remember that the best choice for you is not necessarily the best choice for your neighbor.
6:41... and sometimes it's a particular coach that lies and stabs its parents/player in the back.
Match fit tryouts Wednesday
PDA is the place to be!
6:49 Sure does sound like an ecnl coach I know at this age group. Wonder if it's the same one. Guy will lie through his teeth over and over to his parents and players.
What 3:25 meant to say was disastrous. Interesting? You are extremely optimistic.
Some of you parents that are bitching on here are your own kids worst enemies. Take a look around you, if your kid is going to a team/club next year that is set up to excel good for you, you've done your job. If your scenario is turning to shit or the last year has been a disaster, then its on you, not your kid. Do something about it and don't blame anyone else. This whole landscape of club soccer we blog about every day is cut throat. The clubs, DOC's, coaches, parents, they all lie. We all see it time and time again. But certain individuals (btw its easy to tell who you are), feel the need to put the blame on everyone but themselves. Take a look in the mirror, maybe your kid will benefit from it someday.
I assume this is about MF as usual? How is it a parents fault if they are lied to by a coach? Naive maybe but It's only their fault if they continue to stay there.
I am a parent of an ECNL club, the coach I had the last 3 years had never lied to me. I did not agree with some of my coaches opinion's on my child. I have to say, I look back and this coach never provided me any information that was not incorrect. Coach actually was right majority of the time, I did not agree at the time since this is my little Suzie. Right now looking back, I have to say he put my child in the best situation, my daughter now is excelling due to his guidance and placement.
Consider yourself lucky. There are plenty of good coaches out there but just as many awful ones. All you can do is move on from him/her and do a lot of research on any potential future coach.
5:46 Agreed. Here's my opinion for what it's worth.If I am a player/parent at World Class, and I was getting the fired MF coach as the coach, I agree, get out of there immediately. Bad things are just getting started.Once a bridge burner, always a bridge burner.If you are still at WC, leave while tryouts are underway at other clubs. Take the best offer. You have no idea what is in store for your kid, it's not good on any level.
What age group is MF coaching at WCFC?
I find it very funny that MF fires a coach, then they come on this blog and tell the WCFC parents to get their kids off that team. MF is in first place in ECNL because of that coach they fired. Now all the MF players are following him to WC to an age group where WC is struggling. If my daughter was one of the better WCFC players, I would be thrilled that she would be joined by strong players. You act like he is bringing over the whole team. We all know PDA is picking up many of the MF players.
Here's my opinion for what it's worth. If you are a current parent on any MF team within the club and you decide to stay after this past year you need to get your head examined. What a complete joke of an organization. How this club stays in business is beyond me. If you are an outsider do yourself a favor and stay far away. If your daughter is an 02 and you are thinking you'd like to try her out because of their current national ranking don't be fooled. All of the players are leaving and the team will be a shell of what it once was. Training? Glad you asked. There is none. You're daughter will not learn a single thing. All sessions, which get changed week to week, are simply 90 minutes of scrimmaging. Zero technical work, zero. One coach, when he decides not to cancel, is coaching two teams and these two teams are sharing one field with multiple other teams within the club. You have a few weeks come check it out. Stop by but you better know someone in the club to keep you posted on not only time changes but which of the three locations it could be at. If it's at Morris Catholic you may need night vision to watch the training because any given team could be in a corner where one of the portable lights is out of gas, which by the way you could be filling up next year if you sign on the dotted line. Cost? Another good point. Last year 3100 just to sign. You pay separately for each tournament and the coaches get paid additionally for each tournament and each overnight when the team is traveling to away games. Your gotsoccer has new charges almost every week. These few points are only a tip of the iceberg. Now you have an idea of what's in store for your kid, it's not good on any level.
Wow so you are saying you think there may be some openings and opportunities for my 02?
Sounds like my kids ecnl club
6:52 Thanks coach. I am sure you'll be giving plenty of playing time to the remaining WC players. I would expect those kids, no matter how good they are, to rarely play. The kids that are coming over will never sit. Good for them, bad for the kids that are staying. The ECNL team are a top team because you are not coaching them. Good luck trying not to screw things up in less than a year. The post earlier is spot on, you can't change who you are.
Is the former MF coach going to be the 2001 or 2002 WC coach?
Everyone thinks the grass is greener. MFA is stronger than ever. Teams may need a year to rebuild, but club is strong.Good luck to you, but you are doing your kids a disservice. BTW, I doubt that there are any MFA coaches here, all parents. The kids from down south, I understand your situation and I wish you well. Those at 2002 following coach it may work out, but it's not a great idea. MFA relocates operations to Denville and people who live pretty close now want to drive 1-1.5 hours to World Class. They must have enjoyed the ride to Hazlet.
7:07LMAO, you hit the nail on the head
Can anyone verify this. I head the old match fit coach send his daughter and her best friend to ID camps. They were recommended by the world class coach, And the Old match-fit Coach recommended the world class coach's daughter for ID camp. LOL too funny
8:52Thats the dirty little secret of youth sports.It doesn't really matter though, most of this stuff is just window dressing and marketing but it is great for the kids!Soccer Nut
Everyday there are deals made with the devil...sad but as Nut says, it's the reality of youth sports...
Yes 852 I heard that same thing.SHE DID NOT LAST LONG, BUT IM SURE SHE TOOK THE SPOT OF SOME MORE deserving kids. The shame of this is that the coach couldn't wait till the end of the season.match-fit had no choice but to fire him before he poached all their players. I do hope the team finishes strong and I'm curious if they will have enough team members left to make the trip to California. The coach should be ashamed of himself if he stops that team from going to the National Tournament. He should be suspended from coaching for doing this during the season
We need a timelineWhat happened first in all this?Did Match Fit inform their U14 league leading coach that he wouldn't be coaching the team in '16-'17?
Enough already...are you trying to blog about MFers up to 5000 entries?
MatchFit, SmashFit - who gives a flip? Almost makes me want all those PF wanks to start posting again...
PF is right there with MF and PDA is all the shady deals that happen to further the club and not worry about the kids. They made it. Now if US Soccer would announce who is getting the DA's some people who went to these clubs will be leaving because their daughter wants to play HS.
Timeline seems to be as follows: MFA announce coaching line up which does not include the coach in question. Then, Club told MFA players that they could not play with his summer program or any summer program but MFA's newly formed program if they wanted to be carded MFA in the Fall. Then there was the announcement that he was affiliating his club with WC. Then they told the teams who their new coach was for the rest of the season. (the weekend of San Diego.)At the end of the day, there is no poaching. Clubs don't own the players. The players - and the players parents - are actually the customers and the Clubs are providing a service. Some provide this service well, others do not. Some clubs don't even understand that they have customers or believe that there is a never ending supply of customers because they believe that another fool is born every minute. And in youth soccer, they are probably right!Parents will generally weigh options and do what is best for their children When you see a group leaving en mass, you have to believe that there is something else wrong. That they are leaving because they they were collectively unhappy with the service/product that was delivered. The fact that these girls that are moving together implies that they are thinking like a team. Something somewhat rare in ECNL soccer.
well said!Clubs never have the best interest of the kids in mind. Only parents have their own child's best interest in mind.You must assume that all clubs and coaches tell you what you want to hear. It surprises me when parents become outraged about some untruth that the club or coach told them before they signed on the dotted line.If they left, they left because the parents thought that that was best for their child.Soccer Nut
9:44 - just to clarify, the league leading ECNL U14 coaches are not leaving MF. This is about the NPL coach leaving for WC.6:52/All - I'm curious about your post that mentioned technical training/scrimmaging. We often have this debate with my daughter's team. What do you mean by technical training?... Individual skill development? team/game technical training? or something else. I asked for a couple of reasons. first, we debate that at this age/level of soccer (NPL for us, ECNL for others) individual technical skill work should be on your own time. I don't see the benefit of working on individual skills development in a team training session. i do believe that in team training sessions team/game technical training should take place in small groups, then moved to a game-like situation (scrimmages) to reinforce the concept. This isn't really about the non-sense going on at MF, just interested in others thoughts on the topic.
12 10In other high level sports programs both individual and team technical training take place throughout a child's youth career. why would you think that soccer should be any different. team practice twice a week and individual emphasis technical sessions would suffice with a 4th extra session for those that wish to pay for it. I have seen clubs practice 3 times a week and coaches spend no time correcting obvious technical mistakes. no 14-17 year old is a finished product. while parents should find outside Individual training sessions to supplement , it is still the responsibility to correct technical mistakes and to make the child a better individual player. The majority of the clubs just worried about the quickest way to a win. That includes ECNL clubs.Soccer Nut
I resent it when clubs have technical training sessions taking supplanting team training. My kid plays on her on with our garage wall for hours at a time and is technical very advanced in large part because of her own efforts. Why should she have to suffer through remedial technical training for kids who spend their time on other endeavors? Team training after u10 should be focused on initially small 1v1, 2v1, 3v2 tactical sessions moving into larger numbers and more complex scenarios as they age. Team training should take advantage of the fact that there is now a TEAM present and that training advantage should be maximized. let those whithout the time or inclination pay for technical training outside of regularly schedule team training after u10.
1:20, I have seen your daughter play, and she is no that good, perhaps get a better garage?
I agree with that Soccer Nut! Most clubs teach their players how to win the game and they don't care too much about technique.
How many players have left MF to go to PDA or WC? Looking at the rosters for each of the clubs, it looks like MF and PDA overload their rosters, while WC keeps 18-19 players on a team. I'd rather have my kid at a club where they commit to 18 and those 18 get play time Why go to an ECNL club when she has to sit out because there are so many players
Are we talking 2001 or 2002 players?
So...back to Match FitAre you saying the ECNL players (from Jefferson) are not among those going with the coach to World Class?
1:23 yeah right you have no idea...
9:37amI am a parent, I can tell you that the former coach is not dictating anything. I was not even aware of his situation until MF brought it to light. I have spent 2 weekends with him and sat next to him at games. Never once did he spills the beans on his next coaching gig.The word from parents on sidelines are MF made strong threats to players that annoyed many parents. If you do not sign with our club, you will not be on roster to CA or even league games. Personally MF handled this whole situation wrong. If this teams falls apart, it has to do with these demands.My kid is staying, she made the ECNL team. Maybe by default with many girls leaving, I am not a fan of business side of MF. No where else to go personally for me
Thanks for the info, 2:58.Tough situation for the parentsAre they asking for next year's money before California as well?I'd think the ECNL league higher ups could be addressed concerning a situation such as this. The CA trip is part of THIS season, not next. The girls are earning it - and no matter what they are doing next year they should be going.
NJ Cup predictions for this weekend? I give nod to Averbuch. I think Averbuch - Ajax final. I have seen 3 teams play, Galaxy, Boca and Averbuch, but never Ajax. Does Ajax have a shot against Averbuch? Lets be honest Averbuch is just so good, they score many goals to overcome goals against, running through this season pretty well. I just do not know about Ajax. I think Boca and Galaxy will put up good fight, but in the end Ajax verse Averbuch Sunday.
2:58 I heard the opposite from a reliable ECNL MF parent. "We are all a family until the last game is over. but once you're gone, you're gone".I hear different things my my own kid when she tells me what was said.
The MF coach had every opportunity to stay on with the organization. The truth of the matter is the coach also runs a soccer training company and MF felt there was a conflict of interest there. MF told him if he wanted to stay on he would have to give up his other business. The coach decided that he wanted to keep his training company so he told MF that he would be leaving at the end of the season and they were fine with that.A couple of weeks ago the coach decided to send out an email to all of his teams letting them know that he was leaving at the end of the season. In the email he mentioned where he was going to and he encouraged everyone to come and tryout at WC. Once MF got wind of this they decided to terminate him right then and there.
3:22 Averbuch having a tough time this season. Check standings. NPL standings , they lost to NJ Rush 4-2. Ajax beat NJ Rush 2-1 , with a goal in last 2 minutes. NJ Rush goalies not good though. You never know what team you are going to get with PDA when you play them. FC Copa has different girls at their games also, taking after PDA it seems. So who knows who will win. I think Averbuch though. They have the same girls there pretty much every game. PDA will have girls from Storm play to make sure they win (hoping they don't)
Storm cleared their schedule this weekend and told Ajax, thanks and they will take it from here. Gotta love big sisters. So My money is on Storm over Averbuch. Not sure if Storm or Ajax will go to nationals TBD.
3:22 Why are you bringing up FC Copa? Did you just say that Copa has different girls at their games? If you meant to say that then you have no clue and you lost all credibility as Copa's U14 team has never used players from any other team. They beat the Rush with several girls not there and their striker breaking her leg during the game.And before anyone chimes in, I am not trying to jump on a Copa bandwagon or even talk about beating the rush. I just don't like when people say things they don't know anything about.
Lots of people have given info about the matchfit side of tongs. No one seems to know anything about WC . Which WC teams does this affect and how many girls (approximately) are going from MF to WC ? Thanks
I can't wait to see hundreds in attendance at MatchFit tryout tonight as per our coaches.
3:45 half of your story is correct. He never told or emails parents about trying out at WC. MF was unhappy about the training company and that's why they let him go. Get your facts straight before blogging on here
3:45pm stop providing lies. Provide this so called email. You won't be able to as it does not exist
3:23 My daughter's on the team and she told me exactly the same; we're family until the end of the season and your decision won't be held against you. Some of the things I read on here about MF are crazy and it's mostly BS. Is MF perfect? No, but name one club that is. There are none. At the end of the day the ECNL trainers treat the girls well, they're fair, my daughter's improving as a player, and she always leaves training with a smile on her face.
4:48 and 4:55 There certainly was an email. The email said "We at SCP are proud to announce we have partnered with WC Football Club...". The email goes on to say that SCP players will have access to the highest level of play (ECNL) and closes with " see you at tryouts ". Signed by said coach. So there's your email.
4:55 you're right. there wasn't an email. but check your twitter feed to see the date when you made your WC partnership announcement and compare that to when the ECNL team was in SanDiego.to answer a previous poster's question: this primarily and directly impacts the 02s at WC.
4:10 Rush had 1 sub to FC Copa 6 subs. Your 4 coaches were horrible, screaming and yelling at refs. The refs were horrible , gave Copa the game. The one goal your girl kicked the ball out of the keeper's hand. The refs handed you the game. Your girls were tackling from behind and several ( at least 9) hand balls that ref did not call. Big difference in team from September when Rush beat you 5-1. Not all the same players. Copa playing the ball from the ground. A horrible game all around. The center ref was just an idiot. The girl that got injured ran into the goalie, did not stop when goalie had ball. Horrendous injury. Feel sorry for that girl.
This upheaval of the MF team appears to have bothered them last weekend. They ended up with 2 ties against relatively weak completion.
1:44 what are you smoking? That coach did nothing but create and hostile playing environment with his favoritism. He didn't lead this team to first place. He could barely win a game. Look at last years team record in the npl. Sorry, but you are wrong. Not a good coach at all.
Are you really bringing up U13? Because this year they're in second place. Oh and you forgot to call him a daddy coach, yawn. Its been a few hours since we all heard that. And its funny that you say "hostile playing environment". There wasn't a team on the planet that was more dysfunctional than this years ECNL team. Why is that? Because there was no discipline amongst the coaching. Team travels to San Diego and the team splits into two groups where neither would hang with the "other" side. No one there to hold the kids accountable for making mistakes on the field. Kids calling out one another on the field during play and arguing during games. That NEVER happened on his NPL team. He put together a bunch of nice players and families alike over the last two years who all got along very well, and most importantly have improved together as a team. You've been beating him up the past two days and thats fine. Its an anonymous blog. Good luck to your little Mia
Ready these posts have been entertaining. Seems to have a disgruntled parent kid was not asked to go world class. Get over it, maybe your kid was not that good, may have to face the facts.
Big turn out at 2002s MF tryout!30 kids for 2 teams.
5:15Sounds to be a generic email. Your post made it seem it was a pesonal email address to individuals. I see no problem with a generic email, part of doing business.
8:41 are you serious?
Here is what happened in order: First some background. Two MFA coaches have a side business SCP which is another full fledged club. They do trainings, but also field full teams for spring/fall and have a large summer program that many MFA players have historically played with.1. MFA announces they are having a summer program and if their players want to play in the summer it has to be with the club.2. Coach A send out an email to most of the MFA parents slamming MFA for starting a summer program. This coach is terminated.3. SCP sends out an email saying they are no longer affiliated with MFA and will have a new affiliaton announced soon.4. While MFA teams are in San Diego, SCP announced new affiliation with World Class. Also during same time, coach B tries to secure field time in the fall at Morris Catholic. Coach B is terminated.5. Coach B starts calling players parents to encourage a move to World Class. Some parents agree, others are livid.6. MFA will field teams next year and life goes on. I am a parent and this is what I know. My child is happy at MFA, we like the coaches, and we have no plans to leave. The coaches who left are good guys, but they left the club with little choice IMO
6:06 I do agree with you that the center ref was horrible. With that being said not sure where you get 4 coaches from as there were only 2 there. The goal that you are talking about, the goalie clearly dropped the ball and the girls then kicked it in.Don't get me wrong, I am definitely not saying that Copa is a better team as they are not, but on that particular day they were. As for your different players comment, once again they do not have different players. They have had the same players since August. By the way yes it was a very bad injury as the player broke 2 bones in her leg.
5;15, sounds good the projected unity. But explain the scores from last weekend. Those are teams you beat easily in the fall
At 7:48That's funny. You seem to know a lot and have a lot of faith in your "daddy day care", ooops, meant coach. Wonder why the team was split up????? Is it because someone created that hostile playing environment? YUP. Just like what the one blogger said hours before. Shady business. Putting his daughter and her bff in camps when it wasn't deserved. Sorry, but you seem to be blind of the fact that things were bad because of this character.
Everyone guns for the top and seems to play their best vs. this whole MF vs the former coach and kids staying and leaving took a toll on the players performance as well as which players were rostered and playing. That's no secret. I would be shocked to see if MF can bounce back from all the turmoil.
10:34 Breathe and relax. We all know who you are. Obvious, everyone loves the coach, well except you.
Unity? California should be fun.
9:31 yes that's all that was there. About 35 kids for 2001 age group. Poor showing.
11:10 we just got back and there was well over a hundred kids combined. I took a picture because I know there would be some tool that would say there was a low turnout.
The Coach that MF fired obviously had a strong following, or there wouldn't be all this turmoil, right? It sounds like they will be losing a lot of players. Usually when a team is doing well in their league, everyone wants to stay. It leads me to believe that MF may have angered a few parents
We all dislike refs that do poorly. Take a deep breath and run some statistics. A bad ref very rarely is to blame for a game loss. The closest you can get to this would be a tie game with 20 seconds left and the ref calls a horrible PK call which wins the game...Oh and injuries, no subs etc....really? STOP! You lost! Quit trying to come up with excuses!!!
10:22 The ball was kicked out of the goalie's hand. We take pictures at every game and that was one picture that was taken at the time it was kicked and it is clearly seen what happened. Pictures don't lie. Give me your email address and I will send it to you.
6:34 My sub comment was to 4:10 who said " several girls weren't there" They had 6 girls sitting the bench for subbing. How many were they missing ? And yes a ref can throw the game for a team. It wasn't an excuse, I was stating facts. Copa coaches were screaming about every call even a father on side lines freaking out at the calls, who I assume was a father. The girls seemed like they were playing rugby, not soccer. They were taking our girls down from behind, not even going for the ball. Just dirty playing, big change from fall. I guess they are taught this way. If you keep it up , more girls will be injured in future. I hope not though. (There are pictures too)
7:05I agree with you on those types of games and I as a parent get fired up and want to blame the ref at times...if he's that bad then he sucked all around and it was 50/50. Of course if your girls were fouled during a goal scoring opportunity...perhaps you have a case. Just watch what your definition of a goal scoring opportunity is :)
Let's face facts, most of these "premier" clubs are run by coaches who have essentially become small business owners. It may have started with a passion for soccer, but now it's business, if your paying $3,000 for a season, and maybe not even getting into a game, it's a business. This board has been taken over by MF parents from their second team who spent all this money and now have a different coach each week that doesn't even know your girls names. News to you.... the second, third, fourth, etc teams are revenue streams, your girls aren't providing the national highlights to those clubs. MF made a "business" decision.. Your a patron of that business, not an owner. If they cared about the development of your girls, a new coach would have been immediately hired. Loyalty should be to your child. Do what makes them happy to play soccer. Stay or leave, let's get back to complaining about refs, bad fields, and ugly uniforms.
Wouldn't call it a strong following. Just the teams and players that he already had with his partner are following. Some are staying so that should tell it all.
The discussion about the monetization of youth sports is more interesting than uniform comments. I will say that the youth sports uniform and accessories business seems like another very lucrative venture we all should have pursued.
The real issue was predicted last year. The girls from up North don't want to travel down to Hazlet. The girls from down south are not happy traveling up north to Denville. They can't keep everyone happy so they made a business decision that upset half the team, the Old Coach leaving upset some loyal players he has been coaching since they were 8 years old. Ironically now some of the people who wouldn't drive down south will now Drive two world-class.Good luck to all.
The money is in reality TV. How great would this have been after Friday Night Tykes. MF is tv gold!
I think there is a difference driving to a facility that is your own with a nice club house to driving to Hazlet for rented fields.
Yeah and I wish I had invented the paper clipwhy is there not a "soccer moms" reality show? It'd be awesome!!!Imagine all that spandex
9:35!!!Really!!! Who cares if they're rented fields if they're nice fields. Stop living vicariously through your daughter for goodness sake!!!!
It's yoga pants for these mom's. Football mom's wear spandex.
Yoga pants and spandex are a privilege not a rightTell your women please
How does world-class feel about all this going on. It was a big turnout at tryouts last night maybe some of them were from world class. They do have a great facility more comfortable for the parents viewing of the game. No difference for playing the game however
This is a girl's soccer forum. Keep your sexist comment to yourself. Wear what you want girls!
NJ State Cup. PDA Storm combines with PDA Ajax, is that a joke?
10:07Yayyyy for cottage cheese!!!
You got that right! None of you would have these awesome soccer playing girls if not for those mom bods.
Happy Mother's Day!!
That's what she said
There was several PF 01's at CFC Delco's tryouts last night, what is going on did they move girls out already I guess many people are correct they don't develop players just scavenger hunt for them.
Welcome to ECNL
Go hang out on some loser trump forum if you find value in "pretty". This forum is for soccer playing girls not misguided models.
10:36PM "Shocked to see MF recover from all the turmoil"? The people that followed the coach will be disillusioned with the lack of their progress soon enough. MF does not need to recover, they have clearly moved ahead.MF will be better than ever with a clear upgrades in coaching and decorum. And who gives a rat's ass if the facilities are rented or not, you're grasping there.
He has the best car and the prettiest girl friend! This is real power dope, not president of the senior class.
Corporate America is losing out today! We should get back to work.
10:18 - lots of turmoil and drama with the BYC. Maybe some aren't buying the sales pitch
10:18 - how many girls did CFC get at 01 try outs?
Yup PF kids who didn't make the ECNL team coming to CFC tryouts. I think that speaks more to the level at CFC than to Penn Fusion's weaknesses. The 00 and 01 teams from this year enjoyed some of the best coaching in the area. If the training was so poor, would there have been an influx of quality kids to Penn Fusion to result in widespread cuts? Once an ECNL Player all other leagues fail in comparison. Like having to accept liverwurst instead of pate. Myth: cutting kids reflects a failure in development. Truth: some kids are better than others. Some have perceived ceilings higher than others leading to their being selected over existing players. 01s have 3-4 years of youth soccer left. Really at this age puberty has taken a toll on some players' athleticism and some have developed outside interests usurping their time, taste, and energy for soccer development.
11:03 - thanks Coach/DOC
"liverwurst instead of pate". LOL. That's the whole thing in a nutshell to use another food metaphor. ECNL is for the pate crowd for sure.
10:22Says the guy with the 175lb keeperGo Bernie!!!
You could have just tweeted a picture of your pretty player next to an unflattering picture of mine to make your point. Pretty girls are better and worthy because they are pretty, we get it.
1107 since when can a coach or doc write as well as that?
11:03 Thxs coach, but didn't the U15(01s)& u16(00s) CFC teams just recently beat PF in ECNL League play. So please explain your statement "that speaks more to the level at CFC than to Penn Fusion's weaknesses". It's also shady when you offer current players potential rosters then retract them after who comes to tryouts.
11:37 - do you know for a fact that girls were offered spots and then retracted? if so, that is very shady. Sounds like trying to get girls to miss other tryouts so they stay and play NPL
10:08, where do you get this information. You obviously made it up.
4 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U140 Continental FC Delco ECNL U145 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U140 Continental FC Delco ECNL U142 Penn Fusion SA NPL U140 Continental FC Delco ECNL U141 Penn Fusion SA NPL U140 Continental FC Delco ECNL U141 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U150 Continental FC Delco ECNL U151 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U152 Continental FC Delco ECNL U15
How dare you use facts to back up your statement?
This is an anonymous blog, facts are strictly optional
1137 did mention just recently for 01s and 00s. But thanks for providing the facts as 1103's statement doesn't necessarily hold truth. Win/Loss by 1 goal still shows talent is right there for either groups U15/U16
Can we get back to MF talk, PA is a different world. Who will come out stronger next year out of MF to World Class debacle? Where will those MF South girls go if they do not want to make the trip up north?
10:13 yea you right! Watching soccer in my active wear :)
12:24, the MF girls down south will go to Wildcats of course.
So expect NJ Wildcats teams to become stronger due to this.
PF 01's second tryout is not until next weds so it wasn't girls that didn't make the team. If you know any ex PF players or a lot of current ones, you know why they are trying out elsewhere, and not just at CFC.
11:51CFC's ECNL teams went 2-2-1 against PF ECNL teams this spring with the only blowout being against the U-14 squad. Yes they have been a weak group in comparison. We will see how it all shakes out with BYC. Not sure I would take B team results into acct. If your kid is happy at PF, great. There are many who are not but feel it is their only option.
Too soon to judge MFA and the girls that they will have for next year. They are waiting for PDA to finish their cuts so they can pick up the leftovers. MFA's rented FIELD - note the singular here - FIELD - is/was a very old high school field. But it worked just fine as long as the janitor remembered to turn on the lights. Someone alluded to the night vision situation at Morris Catholic - No joke. Hope that they will get real lights soon. Nice new fields though.
Yep - Morris Catholic is quite nice - and also quite accesible.
I guess the real question is which girls followed and which girls stayed at MF. We all know if it's the 3 strongest players on that team, MF is done.
@12:42. BOCA perhaps as well. Great environment and showing results. You could certainly do worse than join a tight knit group with excellent coach and trainer that is ready to take that next step with an influx of more talent. They are probably the least affected club by the BYC upheaval as well.
2:19 I know you don't want to take B team results since PF NPL team or B team won twice vs CFC ECNL team
Who cares what Penn Fraud is doing !
maybe you do 4:00? - let me guess your kid is an 01? Since the u15 board has some negative PF posts now are you the they recruit not develop guy/gal? 3:58 I agree yaaaawwwnnnnn
I want to take a poll.How many people are on this blog in NJ that their daughter does not play for PDA, MF, Wildcats or BOCA? 99% of the posts are about them. This is a U14 Girls blog, why all the talk about them. And I laugh if someone talks about a team that is not in the top ten, or a lower level tournament people comment or dismiss it like it doesn't count.
4:28 you're obviously a PF parent . Keep drinking the Kool-aid .
This is no surprise, 4:39. The higher the level of soccer, the more likely the players' parents are to visit a soccer blog.But I agree, only a loser would shout down a post about a lower level team or post "who cares?" about a club.
What is it you don't like about PF again? The high prices? Uncertain playing time? The constant recruiting that threatens roster spots?Welcome to the ECNL. It ain't for the faint of heart.
Oh, boy.Cue the "but these are just 14 year old girls!" argument in 3, 2, ...
And the DA will be no different
It is no longer about youth soccer. From here on in it is about college. There are u14 9th graders already accepting colleges and having colleges come watch them play.
4:28 love it add another one to my list, we started with NJ Crush, STA, NYSC, man who sleeps in orange, PDA shill, PL, EM, NJ Wildacts both, NJCSA, some guy slick on the u15 board and even a IGFA lady. Add PF to my list of teams that I have inside info on - man I get around. For the record 4:28 wrong state, all i'll say is OZ if you are from that state you know where i'm from and probably who I am and I don't drink kool-aid but i do drinkI agree 4:49 - GDA will be even more cut throat - because you have players who will go through some tough times for the first time and the parents won't know how to handle it.I agree 5:28
Everyone on here who think their little Susie is getting the full ride to college are in for a rude awakening.
Water is wet.
2:48 I am certain MF 2002 is not done. That is truly an asinine comment. One of the two local top organizations that has no daddy-ball a MUCH better place to be than a daddy-ball team with a 2nd (or lower) rate coach.Their newlywed period will end much sooner than expected, sorry to say.
6:21My little susie is getting a free college education------------------because I'M paying for it.
6:25pm this individual has some issues. You just love to keep throwing rocks. HOpe it makes you feel better. You and your daughter obviously was not asked to attend World Class, it is so obvious how you constantly post and post. Bro just move on. MF will be fine, your team will be fine and hopefully you will be as well
Isn't MF in an ECNL showcase this weekend. Should be interesting at the hotel bar after all the posts on this site.
No. This is great theater!
Kind of like the PL disintegration
Is it the 01 team or the club you are happy to see disintegrate?
Neither. It's the drama discussed here.
Difference is MF ECNL is a whole different level of a team PL. They actually win top level games and are about to head to Nationals.
Wake me when the conversation gets interesting
8:43 Sorry to inform you but I don't post here much, there are several posters that obviously feel the same as I do. If you think it's one person, it's probably a dozen. Any kid that was not asked to go the WC, I'm sure saved the coach from hearing a few choice words that would be a 'declination' of that offer.If that coach didn't ask a girl, I am sure he absolutely knew what the answer would be, or he didn't think she was good enough. Either way, it's a win-win not to be asked to go into that situation for whatever reason.Good luck all the families that are going, I sincerely hope it works out for everyone.
Applications for the girls DA are now being submitted. When will we start to hear the acceptances?
My daughter already accepted
10:43 That winning at a high level and going to nationals seemed to really have paid off for Miss Fit parents and players (really bonded well this season)
Rolling admissions, finished by end of the year.
As an outsider reading this blog, the difference between PL and MF seems more about the effects of BYC. It helped bring to a head some issues with coach along with having small pool of players being attracted to the small club.MF sounds like a shady deal at best, depending on who you want to believe on here. NY and NJ everyday happenings...
http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-development-academy-application-process-faqsMay 2, 2016 - Club Applications Open OnlineMay 3 - 19, 2016 - Webinar Information Sessions for Interested ClubsJuly 1, 2016 at 11:59 p.m. CT - Last day to submit an application. Clubs will be selected on a rolling basis throughout the remainder of the 2016 calendar yearSeptember 1, 2017 - Start of the 2017-2018 Girls' Development Academy season
So after July 1 we could start hearing of acceptances I assume.
MFA possible merge with PDATrying to get early acceptanceJust sayin
Any update on how many girls showing up for PDA and MF tryouts? 2001 and 2002?
There was about 100 or so, rough weather... Let's see how it goes next week
Webster's definition of "100 or so" by geographic region:NJ/NY- between 35 and 85VA- 80-120PA/MD/DE- 60-80CT/MA/RI- uuge turnout
Just merge all the clubs and then the players will basically be playing intramurals which is probably better for development.
9:30 Maybe so, but I can count to a hundred. I posted earlier this week. I did take a picture because I thought under the circumstances the weather had to play into the attendance. 95-110 is the right number range.
9:36 Isn't that what the ECNL already is, merger of clubs playing intramural soccer among each other. No outside clubs permitted.
Almost. When all the players nationwide just try out for PDA teams it will be complete.
Now that tryouts are almost all over, lets see everyone's opinion on next years top 10 2001 and 2002 teams in the Region only! Please don't post by state as we are entering in showcase years now I can care less if your #2 or 3 in a state as coaches are search region/nation wide now not specific at a specific state.
Showcase years. Stop focusing on teams and focus on players.
My daughter has been to several tryouts the past couple of weeks. From South Jersey to North Jersey. SJEB had the largest number of girls attending. Not sure if they were all 2001 or not. But I have to say as far as quality of players I have to give it to PDA. I believe most clubs still have one more session.
As always the strength of the division depends on how many that could play for PDA/MF/WC chose not to attend the tryouts there.I expect 12-15 solid teams at EACH - U15 and U16 beginning in September
The strength of the division depends on the strength of the teams in the divisions. This depends on the strengths and weaknesses of the players, the quality of their instruction, injuries etc. Not every strong player is saying I could play for the ECNL but I don't want to. A strong player can say I want to try out and play for whatever team they want to for whatever reason they want to. If you are a strong player that is not focused on college soccer, why would the ECNL be such a great home?
My kid isn't thinking ECNL. She is already thinking DA.
My kid likes ECNL a lot, and will probably pass on the DA due to the no HS requirement.
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