No, no, no......You wont see Match Fit Black players suiting up in NPL for Match Fit a/k/a CelticJust wont
Sorry folks. MF Black is too slow for NJX. Take the players off the field who shouldn't be playing and hands down, NJX is better. Too many gifts being handed out. Regardless of style, NJX would win. Too big, Too fast.
Set up the match for the MF Cup!
DOC and others are afraid to see what will happen. All the haters would realize that they are flat out wrong about their teams.
Gonna be a fun year! The You say, I say is at an all time high! And its all speculation, which makes it all the more fun!First couple of tune up tourneys are done, wins and losses being posted. No one stealing the drivers seat yet, but it wont be long!It amazes me how strong this age group is. Not the U13 age, but the talent in this pool of girls that this year are U13. Usually after U11 the amount of teams starts to diminish, but this group continues to stay strong. Multiple teams in all clubs. MF has 4 teams in this age group, amazing if you ask me!No one is quite sure why this group continues to stay so large and so strong, but there is a bigger picture here as well. This age group, since U9 to today, is one of the largest group of girl players in the Nation. There is certainly something special about this group, and mark my word, there are going to be a couple of special players coming from this 2001 group.Could this be your kid, absolutely! but only time will tell! The greatest players, at least on the girl's side, do not show their stripes or separate from the pack until the age of 15-17. It's an exciting time!Now for the sad/scary part of this post. U13 is the #1 age of the ACL injury / sports death for Youth girls. Why you ask, because most girls have reached their puberty, going through their puberty or are on their largest growing spurt. I am not sure if many parents knew this but there are many classes offered that teach your coach training in how to strengthen the muscles around the ACL that have been proven to reduce this possible injury.As a parent, you should take the time to talk with you coach. All it takes is 1 wrong step!Have a great, healthy and successful season!
9:04 If this happens what is wrong with this? PDA/MF are clubs and their number 1 goal is the club and it's success. I hate saying it, but club before team(s) always. Your kid should be feeling that as well as should we or we are in the wrong place, it should be every kid's goal to be the MVP for their Club. Look I think any parent that goes to these types of teams know very well that it could be a one and done for their daughter. I would expect the club to put a very competitive team on the field every time. If the players develop and the team develops but there are a few that develop at a slower pace, why wouldn't the club replace them with other players that can play at the same speed as the entire team. Why should the team suffer in it's development if some kids are not developing at the same speed? I know that sounds horrible and it could be my own daughter that sits, but that is what you pay for, isn't it? You pay for your kid to be on a super competitive team developing at a rapid pace and if she is holding the team back or another kid is holding the team back - we all know what comes with the territory with these types of teams. Sometimes it's just a tough pill to swallow if it's your kid? But need to be supportive regardless if this was the path we took and not Hate if something changes.
8:34 here - thank you 8:22
A girl on one of younger teams torn her ACL up at Stars of Mass torn, surgery yesterday, horrible. She is 11 years old, it makes me quezzy just thinking about it, but as said previously, we all live with the fact that this entire experience can be over in 1 second, its not easy to accept, and part of me still doesn’t.Good luck to all.
You may be a little melodramatic. While the injury is terrible and it's unfortunate that she'll miss some time, it's not "all over" for an 11 year old with a torn ACL.
ACL recovery with proper surgery and rehabilitation is nearly 95%.Lot of hard work and changes the mental toughness, for the better, of the player once she is back on the field.There are numerous players in college and on National teams at different levels that have torn the ACL more than once.Unfortunately , these tears are a fact of life.Most are torn without contact, some are torn because of contact.Friend's daughter going through this right now.helluva player.Pretty well known in Elite soccer circles. All I'll say out of respect for their privacy.Wish them well and speedy recovery for her.
Female athletes are 8 times more likely than boys of the same age to tear their ACL. Once an athlete has had 1 torn ACL the odds of another ACL tear to the same knee are MORE than 8x greater for female athletes than males. While there are exceptions in most cases after the 2nd ACL tear and reconstruction there are very few female athletes who can return to play at the D1 Level successfully.One reason is with females smaller bones there is often not enough bone density in the lower leg bones to graft(each graft includes a screw into the lower and upper leg bones) onto for a 2nd and 3rd ACL reconstruction to the same knee so the graft is less stable each time.What you should be looking for is trainers who are focusing time each session on the exercises that are recommended for strengthening the muscles in the leg and the connecting tissue and tendons that protect the knee to lessen the chances of this injury. As you mention there is a lot of research out there and programs in place such as plyometrics, agility ladder and other training methods that involve explosive jumping, landing, bounding,etc. that not only strength the legs but teach proper athletic posture and landing posture for girls.These exercises and programs have proven to lesson the possibility of ACL tears.
Quezzy? STFU 1. That isn't a word, 2. There are kids with cancer.
12:45, congrats, you have illustrated a perfect example of off-topic moronic after thought.Read the thread, who is talking about cancer, was discussing knee injuries.Thank you Mrs.Grammar, dolt.
I'm totally with 1245, great post & point well made.
2:21 you have to understand what you are dealing with 12:45pm and his like.Any post over 2 sentences in length he loses concentration and has little comprehension of what he just read.
come on with PDA, their Shore team lost this weekend to town teams, they should have won their own tournament at mickey mouse TRFC no?
Just a matter of time.
PDA Ajax did not place in top 3 either. How long do we have to wait to see these teams do well? I guess they have to get better players, what they have now is not cutting it. The PDA name is going down the drain huh? Stop paying that amount of money for little results.
6:09 the only other team that would had have a better result is PDA storm, which by your club bashing, your daughter is not on. Worry about your daughters team and I'm pretty sure Ajax would beat your daughters team!
You mean Ajax that is number 2 in NJ Got Soccer and ranked number 6 in the nation? Yeah they stink.
You mean the Ajax that just beat, & pretty handidly I might add, the Kitties 3-1 at Spirit?
6:09. Love to hear what you think are better teams and organizations than PDA in NJ. Everyone at this level is paying significant money to play for their team. PDA puts a consistent product on the field. Just a matter of time when the Shore team gets there. PDA attracts top coaches and talented players.
How many players left PDA last Spring vs. how many came? Tryouts were packed, how many came to tryouts for some of these other so called top level teams.
PDA shore look good this weekend. Won 2 out of 3 gameswith starting goalie out with an ankle. I heard they're starting goalie is one of the best at this age. Their backup goalie looks very well trained. the dad I talk to really liked the coach and said the girls are playing better together each week. Give them a little time to gel and they will have a great team down there at the shore.
At this age , the focus should be on development and training, not how many wins you have, and not paying close to $3000 to get that training. Plus extras when travel and accomodations added. Standings really mean nothing at this age. Most of these girls won't be around at age 17. Paying that much money now seems ridiculous . I hope the training is worth the $3000 plus. You should put that money toward their college fund.
10:00 that's where you are wrong. If most of these girls won't be around at age 17 then standings and results are everything to them as they work on a National title. Why would they need development if they won't be playing beyond age 17?
Well said, 11:47. Many girls who will give up the game at a high level by age 17 will enjoy reminiscing with old teammates about how they won state cup at U13 or U14. No one will care whether they played kick and run or possession style. They'll just know that they enjoyed themselves.The friction between the "win now" and "we're focused on development" teams will always be there. Especially when a "win now" team beats a "we're focused on development" team.
As a parent of child who is currently on an apparnetly (more) development-based team, it is pretty frustrating to sit and watch. But I am a believer that in the long run, she will be better prepared to compete at the highest levels. We had a terrible weekend, the club is implementing new players, new plays, and new ways to execute the new plays, and its been rough. It began this past Spring, and is still evolving, as am I.I love you all.
7:01 Can you please tell the fan that shouts-out those deep, loud, and obnoxious hoots every time you guys score, to keep it down. The Ajax girls are use to it, but my daughter was like WTF was that, a whale?P.S. Of course if you tell him this, he will probably do it even louder, so forget that I ever mentioned it.
If you left everything to the here and now and did not concentrate on future development. US women's soccer would be doomed, because those few who do make it, were fortunate enough to be in an environment about development.
"We are focusing on development"Translation = PDA or MatchFit lost
Are you fishing to see what club 8:29 is from? If so, its completely irrelevant, since it can apply to any club, or team.Its the bought that matters, yes?
8:56 True Dat -How come when they win an important game or event they always bring that up and boast about the greatness of their clubs,never downplaying it as unimportant because after all they are focusing on "Development not wins"?Are some of you guys really that easy to fool?
Good luck to all the teams this weekend. Play hard, play smart and parents try to watch and enjoy the game and don't embarrass your kids by being that crazy parent on the sideline.
When a team that doesn't care about winning actually wins, that IS something to crow about.
@7:01. Relax Ajax parent. Wildcats have a lot of respect for your team. Your beat them once since U11. As your club loves to say Wildcats were trying out new things and girls in a meaningless game. Once they went all out and lost in pk's the third game meant nothing. You have a quality team. Let's keep it on the field and not on a blog. Good luck to all teams
implementing new plays? Pitch, sweep, slant???
And don"t" hit the hole"..try passing through the midfield!
please continue to bash each other and leave PDA shore alone. We have a great coach who is only focus is Development!!! We could have easily beat up on all the teams last weekend but the coach insisted on developing by building out of the back and getting the outside backs involved in the attack and he also required a certain amount of passes linked together before a shot can be taken and did not let the girls play otherwise. The results will come and we are ok with that but for now talk about someone else please
HehThat'll be easy
10:48, don’t tell the group what your coach actually did, it makes you look like a apologist, and no one really cares. You come across as a kook.
All teams develop when they practice. The players also need to work on skills during their own time. Now just because a team gets the results no one needs to feel bad about that - your coach is working with them during the week as they prepare for their test come game day. The kids now have to take what they learned in practice and apply it in real game situations to get the result. They will use what works and they shouldn't be made to feel bad if they get the results.Like I said any team that practices is developing. Some do it better than others.
PDA shore starting keeper is very good, from the previous Copa team I believe, they are progressing, beginning season tourney at TRFC hard to judge on. Keeper has been on team for several years, I think most, plus the PDA parents/coaches/players would rather have played in higher level tournament and not play town teams. Once you are doing local town team tournaments as an Academy you will be bashed for getting "easy" points, and God forbid you lose.....
So....about 15 girls on ShoreWhat is the breakdown of which clubs they came from, roughly?Just curious. Looking forward to seeing a 4th PDA team in action.Speaking of PDA, I think the ranks are legit. Ajax may in fact be able to hold that #2 slot in Jersey. Certainly a top 5/6 club when just ignoring the pointsAjax, Wildcats, MF, MFNJX, Crush and Storm
Curious. Why would you list Crush with that group???
pda shore is basically the old U12 Copa team from TRFC, been contending for years in Ocean Cty. Girls have been together a long time, I do understand they picked up from Jackson, but not sure where else. as you say give them time, good players in that area of Ocean, TRFC puts out a great product with boys/girls for few years now, pda is a huge plus for our area of Ocean
Going back to Jefferson. If you remove the following games 8 -wins that should have been wins, if we are talking top teams, Agreed?8/30/2014 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) 6-08/23/2014 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 3-06/8/2014 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ) 7-06/7/2014 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS (NJ) 1-05/24/2014 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE) 4-25/5/2014 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ) 1-04/13/2014 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ) 4-03/29/2014 TSF ACADEMY (NJ) 3-1I don't think a team that's 5-1-11 with 22 GF and 36 GA can be held so high, unless of course your kid plays for them.WON = 58/24/2014 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 3-15/25/2014 SACHEM SPEED (NYE) 3-15/20/2014 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ) 3-14/13/2014 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) 1-04/12/2014 NEFC SC UNITED U12 GIRLS NPL (MA) 5-0TIED = 14/12/2014 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 1-1LOST = 11 8/31/2014 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA) 1-28/30/2014 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (MA) 0-28/23/2014 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 0-26/1/2014 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL (NJ) 0-25/24/2014 MARYLAND UNITED FC NORTH 01 RED (MD) 1-25/18/2014 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 0-45/10/2014 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) 2-34/27/2014 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ) 1-33/16/2014 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) 0-43/15/2014 BREAKERS GU12ELITE (MA) 1-53/15/2014 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD) 0-3
Looking at the NJ top 10 plus MF ECNL according to GS.STA the only team not to lose a game.NJ Wildcats and TSF the only teams not to win a game.PDA Ajax,NJ Crush and TSF only teams to drop 3 or more.1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM W3, L1, T0, GF12, GA22 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX W3, L3, T0, GF13, GA73 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH W0, T2, L1, GF3, GA5 4 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 W4, L0, T0, GF12, GA35 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL W1, L1, T1, GF3, GA36 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI W3, L4, T0, GF6, GA13 7 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM DNP8 NJCSA GALAXY W1, L1,T1, GF3, GA2 9 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G W0, L3, T0, GF3, GA810 PDA DRAGONS W2, L1, T0, GF5, GA1N/A MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL W3, L1, T0, GF8, GA3
3:44 I am not from Ajax or affiliated, but your logic is quite flawed. First, to arbitrarily remove game history because they are "supposed to be wins" is a very poor way to present a case. Second, the losses listed are against some pretty heavy teams. Let them be, or why don't you build a case for teams you feel are better. I bet the list is pretty small.
STA has not played anybody. So only team not to lose does not really mean as much, right?? Another GS flaw..... You can gain points and never really play a top level team. Why GS does not mean much from here on out. Ajax is a solid team people. And I am not a parent. A competitor.
4:24 you are right, if we add them back W13, L11, T1.I will build a case but before i do - how can you say this is the number 2 team in the state when they are a .500% team Going back to Jefferson and so far in the new 2014/2015 season.
No one didn't say they weren't solid but number 2 in the state for real? You can't be .500 and at the top.
4:24 here. I did not post they were number 2 in anything. Just stating that the list of better teams will be small.
PDA Ajax vs GS top 10 (NJ Only)W5, L4, T1PDA Storm 7-2-0NJ Wildcats 7-1-3MF NPL 6-2-1STA 2-1-0MF ECNL 1-0-1All have a better winning% The sad thing is you are right the list is small. What does that say about NJ soccer when a .500 team is top 5?
STA just beat World Class.
I can another list to see how these teams did vs ECNL teams
Saw STA play and they are solid. Will see how they do this year but definately a top 7 team. I have to say that Storm, Ajax, both MF teams and wildcats have earned a top 5 spot. STA, TSF, Dragons and Crush could fight for the next 4 spots.
NJ vs NE ECNL teams (W-L-T)W9, L25, T6PDA Storm - 0-2-1PDA Ajax - 0-7-0NJ Wildcats 2-0-0STA 1-0-0MF NPL 2-3-1NJ Crush 1-5-3Rage 0-1-0NJCSA 0-1-0TSF 0-3-0PDA Dragons 1-1-0MF ECNL 2-2-15:17 I don't argue your point, but the only way to measure top teams is by their results simple - no style points for how they play. PDA Ajax at best is a .500 teams - I just don't see how this team gets so much love. I watched the NJ Crush video, didn't see anything special but you are right we will see this year.Again I am just looking at the results not letting my feelings have a say in this.
What am i missing? I can't say they play better than most teams because I didn't see most teams play.W-L-T13-11-1 Spring 2014 to Fall 20143-3-0 2014/20150-7-0 vs ECNL
So all of the NJ teams suck against ECNL teams. That is why, with the exception of Storm and MF Black (because they will be ECNL teams) they should try to be the best NPL team they could be. Thier goal should be to win an NPL national championship and stop comparing yourselves to ECNL.
Ajax hasn't won anything. To be called number 2 is ridiculous. I saw them play several times. Nothing to write home about. A few good players, like every other team, that is all. Let them start winning against high competitive teams then we will talk.
Ajax Last 12 months from GSRanked StatisticsGames 36W-D-L 21-3-12Goals For 77Goals Against 51Goal Ratio 1.51Win % 58.3%Not horrible. I can see if you don't feel it is worthy of top of the top and you can make a case for that but it's not like they are doormats.
Again many of you are too caught up with the win. I would rather battle and lose a close game in ECNL against a solid team than beat up on sub par edp NPL teams. You are only going to get better by challenging yourself and playing the top teams. If you lose some on the way, so be it. At least that is what the top players should be doing.....
Your right, 7:42, if you are on an ECNL team. The rest of you should focus on being the best NPL team. Your not all going to make ECNL. But if your NPL team wins a National Championship your kid will get plenty of college exposure.
I am 5:17. I never said Ajax was a #2 team. I said they were top 5. Maybe they are 5th. I have seen all of these teams play in the top 9 I mentioned. STA and Dragons have a chance to get to top 5 instead of Ajax. Need to see how fall plays out. Crush is a big question mark and I don't think TSF is worthy of top 5.
8:00 I know - My stats about Ajax were directed at this comment."Speaking of PDA, I think the ranks are legit. Ajax may in fact be able to hold that #2 slot in Jersey."7:42 S0 you would rather your child play 22 hard games a year and miss the ECNL playoffs every year? How do top players benefit from this?Good teams are going to win and there is nothing wrong with wanting your kid to win a National title. Since when is winning taboo? Nobody is saying winning over development. I am with everyone that believes development is the primary goal. But when talking about teams and how good they are there is only one metric.
7:42 you would rather do that, but would your daughter rather play a close game and lose or win?
You play.... To win....the game!-herm
I thought with ajaxs new pick ups they would have improved.They should have stayed with there core group of girls.Dont think there pick ups were strong.After seeing them over the weekend.But I do believe in years to come better girls will flock to pda and they will make adjustments.
My daughter made first round ODP. Is the money worth it? Or should she wait until she's older.
How many new girls on Ajax? Didn't one girl from Rage go there? Not doing well huh?
10:07 from experience, if you have another 2g to spare then yes, good interaction with new and talented girls and possiblity to selected to regional camp!!!!!!Saw my daughter put on a uniform with NEW JERSEY on it , very proud. Lovd it. But to be honest Not wasting my money for that showcase of ball hogs that don't pass or play any D at all . I'll stick with my club instead
Soocer is a team game and trust. There is NO I in D1 soccer There is NO I in WNST There is NO I in EPL etc......
Game is simple play smart play D pass and move
It seems many times the ones who attend and progress through the TIPs and ODPs are the selfish (ball hogs) players that have the skills but are not great teammates who play the game correctly. Great players make other players better around them in team sports. Is this where this country is headed for USWNT?
There are a few of those with very high soccer IQ's that make the players and the team better. They are not ball hogs and they will go the furthest in this game of soccer. They stand out on the field but also try hard to blend into the team.Goals scored are not the end goal for these players.If they decide to stay with the game they will go far.and then theres the next level down, I call them the "look at me players" great athletes will try to score but will never make the players around them better. Most of the girls at ODP are those kinds of players.
12:20 I agree - my daughter played last year and did well I was a little surprised that she did not want to tryout this year. Lots of ME players in ODP - good for them and some of them will go far maybe it changes the older you get - remember we are talking 11/12 year olds.One thing is for sure ODP will not miss my daughter and I was happy to hear my daughter won't miss ODP even thought she won't have ODP for her soccer resume.
Re: Ajax comment"....a few good players but that is all"Some folks have a weird way of looking at a game. Yes, a player or players can stand out in spots but you shouldnt be evaluating the PLAYER, then adding it up in your head to get a total account of the teamWatch the TEAM. Are they tough? Does the ball move well? Is the defense giving up easy opportunities en masse? Do they communicate? Do they play east/west (change fields well)? Do they play south as well as north? Do they have leaders?Is the staff affecting the game in a positive manner (in game adjustments)?
Okay Ajax parent. You are obviously trying to talk up your daughter's team. These responses on this blog are not meant to hurt anyone's feelings, I believe it all comes down to how much money ($3000 plus) you are paying for a mediocre team. Also when you take on more players , they should really be assets and make team better. If they don't I think that's why people are commenting. No one is saying Ajax doesn't know how to play the game.
News flash! If your kid is on any of these teams you are paying very close to the same money. You are lying if you say differently. And yes, I would rather my daughter be challenged at the highest level possible in ECNL every weekend than win more in NPL. They will become better players for it and THAT is why the coaches will pick from ALL of the ECNL pool before getting to the NPL champion team.
Ajax is clearly a better team than 9 months agoThat would signal 1 or both of:- current players developing well under coach's tutelage- new players integrating well
Plenty of "challenge" everywhere, 9:16Please, please dont put us through a season long blog battle between 2 PDAs........Enjoy one another's success until you face each other.
Ajax hasn't won anything to prove they got better. I watched them play and there is not one girl that stood out. Average team so far. PDA name means nothing. Some clubs do not charge that kind of money, not all are about the money. News flash !
With the amount of tournaments the teams play, it costs money. If you are not paying 3K, you are paying 2.5K. Throwing the money thing out there just shows bitterness. The pre ECNL and NE NPL are deeper leagues. You have solid games EVERY week. The other leagues have talent but you will only get 2-3 solid games. Then the talent pool falls off the cliff. That leaves the majority of your games against inferior talent. You will have way more 4 plus goal differential wins. Not a good thing in my book. I would rather have my kid playing tough games ALL the time. That is why the college coaches live there. They want kids who have to grind it out every week. Again, not for everyone, but you cannot deny that this is the way it is.....
Now youn are just being ajerkAjax recent wins over Wildcats, NYSC, Atletico (Sachem) and NJX/NE NPL MFClose losses to top 2 teams in Mass (2-1 and 2-0). Yeah, genius - those count.
You still didn't answer my question."I would rather my daughter be challenged at the highest level possible in ECNL every weekend than win more in NPL."My question was would you rather have your kid challenged every week and miss the ecnl playoffs every year, where your college coaches will be?It's a simple question. It's okay to admit results matter, go ahead it's okay.Leave money out of the equation because every non-ecnl top player pays more when you add up Tuition/Tournaments (if you are doing 8/10 a season) + let's not forget the ODP season and must attend Region 1 camp.I love the sport and I think development trumps all, but I also know when you are playing the game you will do anything to get the ball to a position to score sometimes direct works sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes keeping the ball away and moving the ball works sometimes it doesn't. At the end of the day as one poster said you play the game to win and because of that you love it
Any updates? Should be over by nowPenn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
You are always better off being on an ECNL team. But if your not there are one plenty of ways to get noticed at the NPL level.
And stop with the "your wasting your money" at any of these teams. They all cost about the same. It is a ridiculous argument still being used on this blog and it has to stop.
And stop with the Ajax is not that good. Who is better. Storm, both MF and Wildcats can make that argument. They are a good team and so are the other so called top 10. Most kids should be happy to be on any of them. If you think you are better than your team move on.
Any scores from today?
Ajax speaking about all the college coaches that will be coming to scout there girls because of the league they play in.Reminder ajax you are not even the A team of your club.But yes I am sure the college coaches will be flocking to your team. Even after they continue to pull the better girls off your team.You are the money maker for the clubs first team.Try to think about that when you rip a league others are playing in.
Let me make this perfectly clear to everyone:YOU DO NOT NEED ECNL or NPL to be noticed for College! If you daughter is a top 1/2 player for the top 25 teams in NJ, there is a school for your child. Division 1,2 or 3, you child will find a school, and yes you skeptic fools, I am GUARANTEEING it!Now for the other side. I dont care if your daughter plays for ECNL or NPL, or whatever... You have a better chance of finding a bag full of Cash on the side of the street, than your child has of even getting $1 their freshman year in scholarship money!Ok, now bring the stories... I know a girl that was picked up their Sophomore year, she got a full ride and a Mercedes... Blah, blah, blah..Dont listen to the crap, you are in the wrong sport for scholarship money as a freshman!
True, but since better players are graviating toward ecnl. what ever money is given out will be given out disproportionately to these girls compatred to girls in other leagues. by the way did you see the stats about percentage of ecnl girls playing D! compared to other leagues.It's through the roofI am saving for college the old fashion way.and hope to get some academic money.. Everything is gravy but I'll take it if offered.And the ECNL is a very elegant experience for my daughter. she loves it.
PDA Dragons Tied MF NPL (NJX) 0-0, PDA should have won. They hit post 2-3 times. Sinking ship!
Just goes to show that Matchfit/npl playing at right level.I believe that boat is differently taking on water.
Score for Ajax and Penn ?
Parents on sidelines complaining about NJX team, it was comical. One Dad was willing to speak to anyone that would listen.NJX MF NPL parents are seeing where their kids actually stand vs other players in NJ.
Here come all the rumors. Bottom line is...the coaches are trying to figure out where everyone fits and when they do this, it will be a "wrap"....MF/NJX, b-team, whatever you want to call them these days, totally outplayed, out shot and pretty much handled PDA today. 1 post shot by dragons, not 2 or 3. Dragons played tough today and both teams need work on finishing.
Dragons are the 3rd team at PDA. I believe AJAX is the second team.
STA Parent here.I would give the better play to PDA Dragons. I did see PDA hit post 2 times, not sure about 3rd.Regardless if coach is moving kids around, I have seen this team many of times, kids are playing same POSITIONS.
How many will jump to ecnl team?
Jump to what ECNL team?
I am not into arguing but I do think I know the positions my kids teammates have been transitioning to. Sorry STA parent. Because you see 2 defenders playing the same position doesn't validate how many times you have seen this team play. Not buying it. Amazing how people come on here to start trouble and tell lies. Don't know what game you were watching today if you think Dragons had the better play. But, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Hey 9/5/14@11:46 PMThere is no " I " in team only ME and some of these kids are "ME" players. This seems to be taught at the parental level most of the time. Just thought you would get a kick out of that saying.I agree with your post, soccer is a team sport and if some of these kids would knock that crap off, many of these teams would be more successful and have greater overall player development as a team.
Wow. So an STA parent went and watched a B team play a C team when 2 of the most hyped up teams were playing about 200 yds away at the same complex. Sounds like an infatuation or a lie. Who would waste their time going to see these 2 teams play in a regular season game? Only a wannabe....LMAO
By the way. It was a Match Fit home game in Morris Plains. Long way to travel for a home game. And in the backyard of STA so I could see how an STA parent was there. But the question would be why?
The Dragons are a much improved team from the Spring. Will be interesting when they play AJAX in NPL.
B or C teams. It can be argued that the 5 teams from PDA and Matchfit are in the top 6 or 7 teams in the state.
These ecnl clubs are a magnet for the better players in the state. Those that don't make the ECNL team gather at the next level, which is pretty darn good as well.Great for kids, others will continue to join.
Why a STA parent would attend. Live only 8 minutes from complex. Our team played Black team just 2 weeks ago and I was very impressed with this 3rd team. Went to watch NJX team and caught some ECNL game. As I am very happy with my team. Wanted to see what options I have.I do not believe my child is ECNL level player at the moment. Yes our team won vs World Class, realistically we were lucky. That's my opinion. I truly feel our team is better than NJX team. I can say this, if MF tries to have this team play, parents will bolt because this team will lose before getting better. I believe the Black team is just as good as NJX team that we just played. I would rank our team in the top 7 after watching most of NPL team.Yes I was there as some of you had seen my younger daughter wearing her STA shirt up on grass.
Any team starting a new system, will have changes and go through the ups and downs. Has nothing to do about how good a team is. All these teams who are switching over to new coaches and Academies are going through the same thing. Give them time to adjust.
Dragons have 6 new players and coach. Adjusting just fine. Will only get better.
Excuses ExcusesPDA are looking good with their new system and new players.
Any scores from yesterday?
PDA Storm 2 Penn Fusion ECNL 0PF had the better of play for the first 20 min or so, and then it was pretty much PDA the rest of the way. Fun game to watch, lots of speed and skill out there. Kids were melting in the heat though. Can't verify this, but heard Ajax beat PF NPL 1-0 on a very late goal. Didn't see game.
Keep in mind MF/Dragons game played on turf. Grass is Kryptonite to PDA teams.
Same 5 or 6 superstars played their usual posrions for mf/ njx and played the entire game. Hows that been working? You fade in the 2nd half of every game and every goal you let up is in the closing minutes of the game. Better get those 5 or 6 in better shape to play the whole game. But they would have to show up at practice to get in better shape. Show case your supposed superstars, its a business. And pretend you sell a good product. Stick with us, I'll get you a scholarship.
Kick and run is done. Big is done. Smart and technical is the now at u13 and above. Bye bye MF/NJX
STA parent – smart move – some of us on this board always say see for your self. ECNL we all know what you are going to get there or think we do. It’s better to see the NPL teams (2nd teams Dragons/Ajax/MF NPL) and the EDP play first hand. This way if you make the move for your kid you kind of have an idea of what the team looks like in a game situation.Looks like we have some posters that saw the MF/PDA NPL game. Which side of the field was most of the game played on? Was even or did one team pin the other and was just unlucky? How did the set plays look?Also PennFusion/Storm reporter – if you are a PA parent was this the first time you saw Storm? You have to be extremely pleased with the NE Division of ECNL Storm/MF/WC/Boston/Stars/CFC/FSA and Albertson/Delco/Bucks? Just from reading the posts on this board the kids playing in those games will be extremely lucky to train 2/3 times a week and then play those quality games.Also, if the 0-0 & 1-0 score lines are true NE NPL looks like a good place to be as well for these clubs.One more question for STA parent – since you are an outsider, were you impressed with the level of play – speed, toughness, and movement by both teams as a whole. No need to break down the individual teams just as a casual soccer fan watching a game?Unofficial ScoresNE Pre-ECNLN/A Continental FC 01 Pre-ECNL vs Albertson SC 01 Pre-ECNL0-2 Penn Fusion SA 01 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 Pre-ECNLN/A Match Fit Academy 01 Pre-ECNL vs East Meadow SC 01 Pre-ECNLN/A FC Bucks 01 Pre-ECNL vs World Class FC 01 Pre-ECNLNE NPLN/A Continental FC 01 NPL vs Albertson SC 010-1 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPLN/A FC Bucks 01 NPL vs World Class FC 01 NPL0-0 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPL
Kick & Chase....another idiot on the blog claiming to know soccer. I haven't seen any team at this age group yet, stay away from the long ball. It's called playing over the top Einstein or playing the long ball!
Whatever you want to call it. It doesnt work. Only created chances were from dragons
Working the ball over the top because there is space available high because the opposing team is trying to compress the team with the ball to take away the short term passing options is a great tactic. A ball over the top keeps the defensive team from pushing and compacting space.. But if most of your balls are played over the top into space, and not to feet, so that your forwards are running on to them then you are playing kick and run. It is easy to recognize the difference between the two.Your midfielders should be getting the most touches on the team and there should be a link up between the backs and midfield.NJX plays kick and Run. They play with physicality to make up for skill. The team is done.
As usual the NYCSL NPL the only NPL on top of it's game. Here are some updated scores from today.ISA, NYSC & Quickstrike have the early lead for the fight to a National Title.NE NPL late to the part updating scores and EDL is not even in the race. They still have NYSC and Manhattan as member clubs.3 New York SC NPL-01 2 STA NPL-010 NY Rush NPL-011 Quickstrike FC NPL-010 Brentwood YSC NPL-01 6 Intense SA NPL-010 Manhattan SC NPL-010 Massapequa SC NPL-01
Is that the score from the STA dad who was out scouting other NPL teams?
9:13, please explain this "stragon" thing. There are no storm players ever playing for the Dragons and visa versa. Are you the same guy constantly picking on Ajax? Don't you have something better to do than continue to spew nonsense?
Nope not a STA dad - just someone who is following NPL, Region1, ECNL and National League for this age group. But since there are only NPL games being played this fall with some pre-ecnl games there you go.What I'm not allowed to do that? I have to have an interest?
7:29Storm GK made some incredible saves yesterday vs MF NPL. Don't say Storm players do not go up and down to the NPL aka Dragons team.
So I guess the NPL GK played for Storm? Isn't that a good thing for the GKs?
The Stragons were a team that played at Rutgers Futsal tournament. Combination of Storm and Dragons apparently.
Any npl or ecnl scores?
Stragons were a Bunch of friends playing futsal during their down time,
The "stragons" guy & the "50 mile NCAA rule" guy are one in the same.
Why is is such a big deal to draw against the Dragons? The Dragons are a quality team.
Are Dragons better than Ajax?
Relax people..... Did PDA win? No. The problem with the NJX team is they are not a true academy team where #1 is even close to #16. They have 5-6 top tier players and their bottom 4-6 would not even stand out on a town team. This year they will have to work on technique and soccer but they cannot possibly expect much when the coaches try to mix in the bottom players as much as some of the others. The talent level falls off the cliff. Some of these other teams may not have the top 5-6 like this team but are more consistent from #1-#16. BTW.... PDA does have floaters....
"floaters". Girls are rostered to all PDA teams even though they were chosen say, to play Dragons, they can play for Ajax and Storm? Because they play in different leagues? ( NPL, ecnl, edp, etc...)
Get it and it is fine.... Just that other posters were claiming PDA did not do this. That is all. You will see pre ECNL players in NE NPL games for all clubs. Including PDA....
And that is a good thing. Reason why you want to play in either of these leagues..... You will see the best players.
I don't think it's a big deal to draw against the Dragons. But I've been following this board for some time and when PDA was talked about it was usually Storm then Ajax. Dragons were always tossed to the side, but from reading this board and doing my own GS research. In this early season Dragons based purely on results have played two top (strong) teams WC Charlton and MF NPL and have a loss and a tie with 0 GF and 1 GA. That isn't bad for a team that was always tossed to the side. It will be very interesting when the two PDA NPL teams play each other both are second teams with a little bit more on the line than just an inter club scrimmage when they play against each other twice and maybe a third time in the playoffs for the right to play for a National Title.PS. Wasn't PDA and MF killed for not giving their NPL players a chance to play with Pre-ECNL teams? But from reading this board it sounds like they do - so why would people say these teams don't use floaters? Isn't that what you want if you come to a PDA/MF? Giving your kid a chance to earn some quality minutes with the First team?Also, people on this board always tell people to see for themselves what the teams are like before you make a move to compare. SO we had a STA parent do just that and yet the guys was killed for that. I say good job STA parent you got a good look at two NPL teams for two NJ clubs.PS. 8:23 I agree with you 100% the really good teams dress 18 starters per game. However, only 11 can start the game. But they don't lose a step when they make a move for fresh legs. Putting the PDA/MF talk a side for a second. From the NYCSL NPL's first games. With NJ Crush on bye I would say ISA looked good doing what they had to do against a team not at their level winning by a 6-0 scoreline and NYSC beat STA by a goal. I think it will between these 4 teams battling for the right to represent their league at the Nationals. Without knowing who's in the EDL and just going by an outdated web source - I think Nj Wildcats are the favorites to represent the EDL. If they run things like last year they will play 4 or 5 games in the Spring, the Wildcats should be able to hold their own unless some new Clubs have joined.
So at the end of the day NJ might have 3 teams in the NPL finals in 2015NYSC NPL - NJ Crush or STANE NPL - MF NPL or PDA Ajax or even PDA DragonsEDL - NJ WildcatsI think the NE NPL teams will have a tougher road which will make their teams a little bit better because of the speed of play they will be playing at.Good luck all
Guessing the STA parent is from the STA B team and is looking at another option for his daughter and went to see other teams.Nothing wrong with that..if want to go to a stronger team than your current team and do not think will have the option or opportunity to move up to so called A team within current club then a good move and smart by the parents.
8:23Looking through some rose colored glasses huh?5 or 6 top tier players on njx? Must be from a parent that has been taken care of for awhileor from a parent whose kid does not have to compete for a roster spot by default. You have 1 kid that plays on 3 teams that desrves ecnl. Other than that its a crap shoot, level drops drastically after that. Sorry to disappoint the 4 or 5 top tier parents
All I know is Dragons look pretty good. They have a huge roster. 22-23ish players. It seems like the coach does a good job rotating players.
Point was they have 6 solid players. The difference with that team is the talent drops way off after that. Parts of the field that can be exploited big time. Other teams at this level are WAY more balanced in overall talent.... All about setting up your own kid for next year anyway....
9:59 is cluelessTo say 1 kid deserves ECNL. So every kid on whatever team you are from deserves ECNL? Doubt it. I am sure 5-6 players from that team can start on any u13 pre ECNL team in the North East. Must be a parent who's kid is about to get bumped. Love the Hate.
There are obviously 5-6 parents from old celtic team who cannot let go of belief that their child will make ECNL team at NF next year.Unfortunately the lack of skill training the last few years for those 5-6 players has caused them to fall back tot the pack.
Absolutely correct, lack of skill training. Thats what happens when you change trainers every month or so because certain top tier parents didnt like suzie playing a certain position or suzie is not getting the right amount of playing time. Change trainers or Im leaving attitude. It's going on now at mf. No accountability for players or trainers or parents. Team hasnt had a trainer in a year and a half? Why?
If they want good training be best to change clubs.
For one thing MF gave them a fish story before tryouts that DOC would take over training and coaching team this fall to keep on lid on team breaking apart and losing dues $$$. Never was in the cards for him to take that team.Those parents Fools Gold from Match Fleece.
if you want good, effective, individual training, seek it outside of you club team. some kids are lucky to have parents that can provide this at home. it is another expense that the rest of us have to take on.
Suckerzzzz!!!! Start looking. Couldn't have happened to a finer bunch
Yeah but Match Fleece collecting about 30K in dues this current year by stalling that team breaking up another year.
Anyone doubting MF B Teams regression in last 12 months just look at history vs pda dragons.Last 2 times they played in last year it was 3-0 Celtic and Dragons were non competitive.Now 0-0 tie and sounds like dragons were woodwork shot away from winning.MF Parents are in denial.
Provide at home?Better to seek outside club and home They need to hear different voice besides their club coach and mom or dad for it too sink in every now and then
i posted 1:01... i agree with you 1:06 that it probably is best to get if from outside club and home. my point was that at this point in the game, you are not going to get sufficient skills training with your club team. it's all about the team now.
DOC is gonna take over right after the Stars of Mass tourney. Remember that one. Week1 of Npl season is over and?¿???? Maybe next week. Maybe October. Maybe November. Thank you come again
"The game is about glory. It’s about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom." Danny Flowers, now this being said back in 1972 is still the same today, YES if you lose it sucks, YES Danny is correct. I think the best saying is this one "Winning is not everything, BUT trying to is"
MF is doing a good job with the NJX team. They are pplaying better and have regressed at all. Lies and rumors are being told by someone who has a personal vendetta against this team. MF is still trying to figure out where to play these players and anyone who is affiliated with this team knows that. The line ups are different from last season and the coaching is different. give it time and I am sure this team will be back on top of things.
Sorry, playing better and have not regressed at all.
1:39 Sounds like Mommy Coach desperately trying to put her finger in the holes and plug the leaks. There are not enough fingers I am afraid.Clearly not the same team thi past weekend that Dragons played 2x at U12 lastyear.
Of course the scores will be closer between the Dragons and NJX when the Dragons have the so called "FLOATERS " from either Ajax or Storm to make it closeYou don't know what team your going to face when playing teams like PDA or MF with girls playing for more than 1 team within the club
Love the bitterness. Why would they go anywhere???? Where else is better? The trainers are pushing them to play better soccer and they are. They just do not have strong #'s from player 12-17. That will change next year. Am I missing something? SPRING state cup champs. Played three good games in top tourney up in MA. 0-0 Tie and a 4-0 win first weekend in NE NPL. People below always want to knock the top. Too funny....... Outside of Storm, no other team has had as much success. How does your team stack up to this?? Again, too funny. Keep knockin.....
I think it's a cry baby from that team. Someone is real salty!
My team is the ECNL team of same club and we have had more success and that is why we are ECNL
MF NPL Team parents are in hopeless denial of teams obvious regression.Dragons are a marginal team and the result speaks volumes.
The pre-ECNL teams were playing 40 minute halves with college substitution rules (once you go out in the first half, you cannot return until the second half; and once you go out in the second half, you are done for the day). Were the NPL teams also playing this way?
2:05You are obviously a dedicated parent of the team.Nothing wrong with that at all.When you say "no where else to go"Aren't the better players on your team going to play for the Matchfit ECNL team? What will that do to NPL team team. Will the team weaken considerably?
I think that's how all NPL games are played.Does NYSCL NPL use the sub rule as well?This week's match upsNE Pre-ECNLPenn Fusion SA 01 Pre-ECNL vs FC Bucks 01 Pre-ECNLAlbertson SC 01 Pre-ECNL vs East Meadow SC 01 Pre-ECNLContinental FC 01Pre-ECNL vs Match Fit Academy 01 Pre-ECNLWorld Class FC 01 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNLBoston Breakers Academy 01 Pre-ECNL vs FC Stars of Mass 01 Pre-ECNLNE NPLPenn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs FC Bucks 01 NPLAlbertson SC 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPLBoston Breakers Academy 01 NPL vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPLWorld Class FC 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPLContinental FC 01 NPL vs Match Fit Academy 01 NPLNYSCL NPLNO GAMESEDL NPLWebsite not updated
NYCSL NLP NYE teams are participating in the 1st round of the US Club/New York Cup.
MF Jefferson has not accomplished anything.... You don't think MF knows that.. This year means nothing and makes it easier on them. There is a reason we will be seeing you for practices next year down in Raritan.....
college sub rules are no re-entry in 1st half when you are subbed out, but they do allow for 1 re-entry in 2nd half if you are subbed out in 2nd half.don't know if ecnl rules follow that exactly or not.
"college sub rules are no re-entry in 1st half when you are subbed out, but they do allow for 1 re-entry in 2nd half if you are subbed out in 2nd half.don't know if ecnl rules follow that exactly or not."Thanks. Didn't know that.
Rule 3.9Substitutions. Once an ECNL Registered Player is substituted in one half of any ECNL Competition, such ECNL Registered Player may not re-enter the game for the duration of the half. Once an ECNL Registered Player is substituted in one period of overtime of any ECNL Competition, such ECNL Registered Player may not re-enter the game. There shall be a maximum of seven (7) substitutions in any half or in overtime of any ECNLCompetition.
Regarding the EDL and the website not being updated, it appears, based on the schedule and standings from last year (http://npleastern.demosphere.com/schedules/2014/66131451.html) that all of the EDP games that counted toward EDL were played in the spring, and teams could be from 1st or 2nd division. Did NYSC and Manhattan run to the NYCSL for the fall since there were no NPL implications, and will they return for the Spring to try and challenge NJ Wildcats and whoever else threatens for an easy trip to the NPL finals?
MF Jeffersonsince joining MFFinished 2nd place in NY Soccer Club NPL- Played upWent undefeated in Jags in Fall 2013- 5 wins 3 ties2014 North East NPL Champions- played up2014 made U13 NPL FinalsHumm- looks pretty impressive personallyDOC is VERY impressed with this team. Team is technically sound. You will be in for surprise when only a few will be selected to this North base team
4:08 I have to agree with 5:07You can say you won State Cup etc.Now its time to play soccer. This coach has been teaching this team for years how to play, worked on technical aspects. After playing your team this past weekend, sorry there is no comparison from your team to the current ECNL team.Our Club keeps an eye on North team, this says a lot. Your team is never mentioned by upper management
5:41 Like you have a clue what your club is thinking..... Relax. Your team has done far less than both MF teams. We will see how it shakes out. Again, you have done nothing so far......
And you brought floaters to boot. Talk when you have done something..... All else is just talk.
I dont understand why there is even a debate. The ECNL team is the north team. The team will continue to build by adding players to its current roster. You can expect the same roster as the current u14 team.This means that some of the NPL kids will join the team. You can also expect a couple of players from the outside to join the team. The 24-26 players will be competing for the first 11 positions.This will mean that some of the current starters will find themselves on the bench but will get plenty of playing time as ECNL teams are supposed to be deep.The DOC will take this team and they will play in North.This is the way it will be.Anything else said is just made up stories that are being perpetuated by both sides.
There will be falloff from that North team. bottom 6-8 will mix in with others on NPL team come U14. The way it works.
Who cares. Just play the damn season. Most of us are headed to a secret club that no one knows about or talks about here. Screw ECNL.
So Dragons are 22-23 deep but they needed to borrow the Storm keeper against MF? Yikes.
lBoth keepers get a chance to play for both Dragons and Storm.What a great club ! Giving a chance at development to both players!
Please post scores of npl ne and pre ecnl games this weekend.
Yeah right....... Any game worth anything that Storm goalie is playing. Keep telling yourself development.
MF Celtic parent saying storm keeper playing with dragons is the reason for going from 2 easy 3-0 wins over dragons at U12 year to evenly played tie at best for Celtic?come on that is a stretch.
Truth is MF NPL B team has hit the wall. best days are behind them.Physical advantages create a temporary dominance for players and their families who don't get with a skills program when they are still young.Counting on continued dominance based on physical advantages is just shortsighted in soccer. Always a waste and sad to see.
Who is saying that???? Many from the all mighty PDA came on saying that no way does PDA allow floaters. This proves that they do. The game was more the new coaches not truly knowing the girls in game situations yet and the fact that the celtic bottom 6 are not even close to the rest of the team. Something that will eventually change. That is what was said......
Sorry your kid is not physically on par. The core top girls from Celtic will be mixed with MF north. Then it will be lights out. Have fun in NPL Dragon Mom with ZERO chance of getting on Storm......
And that top team of yours..... The Storm. That is the team we beat with basically 6 top tier players. Next year will be fun.
Nice comments - sounds like a dad who thinks there are only 6 decent girls on team and his is one of them. Get a life dude - u are a loser and people like you always end up with kids like u.
A loser tries to knock a team that has proven themselves over the last two years at the highest level. Prove yourself first before you come on here knocking them. For you to pound your chest about a team that has accomplished nothing and continuously berate a team that has accomplished so much, is total BS and disrespectful. I am tired of it. Very simple. Try to say it is anything more than that and once again, you would be lying to all of us.... Deal with your own, prove something and then maybe come back and explain why your team has earned some respect.
YES-Please stop putting down the rest of the girls on the team.Makes you sound a little desperate.
Desperate for respect.
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