And your point? How many can say they're still in it going into day three. That's all you can ask. Congrats on may making champions bracket
PF parent getting a little nasty, don't worry bro, you'll be able to go home on Monday!
Catching up here. Saw that Solar Chelsea crushed PF but have their been any upsets yet of the top team in each team bracket?
8:35, hahaha, yes the day did not go exactly as planned for PDA and Real Colorado, sorry 😐
Let's face it the Northeast cannot compete against the rest of the U.S. Between the ECNL, NPL, US Youth ERL, EDP the north east has become so diluted when they teams attend national events like ECNL playoffs they cannot compete.
Why is So Cal the best then? Not to mention several others who shine every year from that region. It's just as diluted along the southwest as the northeast. Could weather be that much of a factor?
There is a difference between diluted among competing clubs versus dilution among within the club. And sorry SW Conference is packed with what 11/12 good clubs playing year round in good weather. Northeast has what 14 clubs in ECNL, along with 10+ very strong clubs in NPL and US Youth then throw in Maryland, and DC areas. We in NY/North NJ are very diluted. Not to worry GDA will fix all of this with limited selection.
Congratz to World Class for finishing LAST in their group, see you on the golf course Jeff.
Haha, 1:53, good one, well at least you and Jeff can play together now!
Another loss for PF places them 3rd in their bracket. Poor Tino.
But, they made it to championship league and didn't finish last in their bracket. btw - plenty of coaches watching.
6:40sounds like someone got cut from team or not invited. ohhhh. wipe your eyes and blow your nose with your PAC of tissues. it will be okay.
oh i'm 6:50 talking about 5:54.
You're going to brag about 1 win and 2 loses. I'm sure those coaches saw plenty they liked.....from the opposing team. Oh and I'm MD parent. See you in the Fall!
Lol!!! Nice one MD parent!!
Not bragging about anything. Not on that team. I know being in Showcase was nothing like being in Champions League. Enjoy your ride back to MD.
7:39hey MD parent. didn't see a MD team in the Champions Division. See ya next year, too, when we join the U17's (U17/16). should be fun. btw - there were a lot of coaches watching champions divison.
just to clarify - when the current U16's become U17's and we become U16's as part of the U17/16 GDA team.
Guess it doesn't matter who Tino decides to bench in favor of his 03s they still can't win . How's that development going hahaha
9 goals against in 3 games. What kind of training do they do in PA? You kick it the ball the OTHER way!
ECNL playoffs done for East teams. time to start bashing the DA, ready, set, GO!!!!
Are you for real with this nonsense? Have you all lost your minds, chasing soccer to this level, spending 10 months slaving to it, and then spending your summer going to tournaments, ecnl, da, edp or otherwise? Spending $8 to $10000 a season? Insulting others, insulting kids insulting volunteer coaches and kids who love the sport, all in vane, all for your egos and 'the coaches on the sidelines." What about a job this summer what about putting limits on soccer and saying that working to make some money is important? or are you just going to buy them a car because they put all their effort into soccer, which cost you $10000 a year? Could you image telling your fathers 30 years ago that you wanted to be part of a $10000 soccer program annually and that he or mom had to drive you around the universe? Do your kids shovel the driveway when it shows ? do they do their own laundry? Take out the trash? clean up? chores?or is soccer their entire lives.The kids are awesome. But i'm sorry, some of you parents have lost your minds and are following these commercial profit seeking business down the path because they make you feel you have no other options. It ok if you feel like climbing MT Everest just for the sake of it. But don't go throwing rocks down on those who think you're fricking out of your minds.
10 06 no one threw "rocks" at you for your choices for your kiddo. it is you and those like you that are constantly bashing ecnl, DA, etc. to each his own friend, take care of your own house and i will take care of mine.
10:06 Does have valid points . Many parents letting their kids forgo their childhood in search of being the next Carli lloyd. I hope you realize the odds are not in your favor .
You are one of them, or you would never be on this blog.
2:54 Don't try to make yourself feel better by convincing yourself that I'm like you . My daughter actually has a life outside of soccer . Babysitting job , Volunteers 2x a week to help coach a u8 G team . Goes to the pool , mall , nail salon with friends . Goes to the beach , enters chess tournaments . Has many chores at home and basically enjoys a normal summer of a teenager . Can your daughter say the same ? Or is she still on the pitch waiting for her big break ?
Volunteering and chess tournaments are not "NORMAL" 14 year old girl things. Sounds like you push her outside of soccer too.
Those who think ECNL will be alone at 2nd tier below DA next year are delusional. First of all the majority of the ECNL players are just going to move up to be the DA Team at their club and the current NPL players at those ECNL Clubs will move up to their ECNL Teams. Have you seen the current NPL Teams from the ECNL clubs play. Other than PDA Ajax they are all weak, much weaker than the top NPL Teams out there. The college coaches go to the ECNL events now because they have the most elite players in one place. As soon as those girls move on to the DA the traditional big showcase tournaments(Jeff Cup, as well as the National League events(Disney, CASL, Vegas Players Cup), will draw the most college coaches outside of the DA events.
3:33 how is giving back to the soccer community and your formor coach by helping coach his younger daughters team not normal ? I would hope most girls when asked to help would say yes . My daughter has morals ,appreciation, and loyalty for those around her . I would hope yours does as well . As far as chess , it's something she enjoys for more mental stimulation . I'd rather have her doing that then out chasing boys around like some of these other girls .
4:01 how about the coaching vacuum - who takes care of the kids once the ECNL coaches move to GDA?
If you look at the various scores at the ECNL playoffs, it's clear that the Northeast teams were very competitive against teams from other major soccer states. I thought my daughters team played well, and I have no doubt they will be back next year. Great season ladies, we are very proud, enjoy your summer!P.S. There were 80 top college coaches at our game on Saturday, which is pretty cool 😎
80 Top colleges wow! Let me get this straight Your game had 80 college scouts + the 20+ parents, and maybe another 15+ spectators. You had more attend than a NSWL league game. Hopefully they pull some girls right into the professional ranks and bypass college so those 80 colleges will not matter.
Not if you attend a Portland or Orlando Pride game. lol
Good luck to Rush and Wildcats at Region I this weekend. I put one of them, Pipeline or LVU in semi-finals. With FC Stars depending on the group Stars brings with them. It is locked roster.
We would kill both of those teams, just saying....
"We"??? Hope you're a player and not a parent living through their kid.
Here we go! GDA vs. ECNL. vs. Region 1 vs. NPL: Let the debates begin!
We, as in I take some credit for it, yes we. I saw at an early age, that she would be great. Don’t I get some credit???
As of today1. ECNL - Top level2. NPL - Top/Mid level mix3. Region 1 - Mid/low levelAs of the Fall 2017 (like it or not)1. GDA - Top level2. ECNL - Top for most (slight drop in play)3. NPL - Mid for most teams (slight drop in play)4. Region 1 = Recreation (large drop)
I agree with myself...
3:19 sorry but top Region 1 teams are stronger than NPL teams and leagues. They are just as equal to top ECNL teams.
3:22. Not so. They are equal to some mid ECNL teams, better than some bottom ECNL teams, but not equal to top ECNL teams such as Breakers, Stars, PDA, good PF teams.
The 80 college coaches were not there to look at your daughter and the 20 seconds they glanced her way, they weren't impressed. They have their list of targets unfortunately maybe next year for her , but she can always attend the ID camp for $395.00 and get to know the team chef and physio.Thats cool you went away for 6 days, several thousand bucks, and thought it was "cool" that 80 college coaches were there looking at specific other girls.We have differing opinions of cool.
I'll defend a little here. Coaches do go with "targets" in mind but end up walking away more times than you may want to believe with interest in another player. I've seen it happen many times over the years.
4:07 - well, didn't spend thousands and have been getting e-mails past several days from her club coach re interest and checked out some colleges while out there. And, oh, met some NWSL players at the event. My kid was thrilled. So yep, very cool.
The NPL teams that are affiliated with the ECNL teams are aweful. Top regular NPL teams are better than them.
Ah come on. we are planning on attending the Farmer's Market in Spotsylvania. bet you didn't do that?
Does U.S. Region 1 post the attending college scouts anywhere. Can't seem to find it?
Here is the list of college coaches attending the R1 championships in Virginia...http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2017-Region-I-Championships/coaches/
3:19 acting like another ECNL snob parent living through their kid. Plenty of strong teams in R1 championships, and the top half of them compete well against strong ECNL clubs and beat the weaker ones.
ECNL who? That ship has sailed.
Cleaning up2:39 We all live through our kids as well as living our own lives4:07 You're a doucheGood luck to local NJ teams at Region 1
Cleaning up. lol
4:07, you seem a little bitter, why the mocking? The poster was being honest, my daughter was also there, and he/she was not lying, its true, tons and tons of D1 schools. At this point, its imperative that more coaches means more chances, its that simple.Just like you, simple.
Region-1 (ERL) will be even worse next season. As teams slide into vacant NPL slots so will low flight ERL teams move up to top ERL flight. More town teams will enter ERL and quality will fall. USYS is on they way out and this so called "elite" league is a prime example. It just can't compete with ECNL. I am all for kids playing at their level and giving everyone an opportunity but lets not pretend it's something that is isn't. Too much travel to play subpar teams. Not for me but to each his own.
Would rather be in National League than NPL any day.
don't NPL teams compete in nat'l league, too, and state cups to compete in the regional tourneys? My understanding is the only teams that are restricted from competing in these are ECNL.
10:29 Only if they qualify.
Isn't that true for any team entered in these events including non-NPL? Only if they qualify? Or is this a pay your fee and you're in thing?
Certainly not pay and you're in. Found this for your lunchtime reading.https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/assets/1/15/NL%20TEAM%20INFO%20FOR%202017-18%20as%20of%205-9-17.pdf
Got it. All of these are by application not their league, right?Nat'l league/ERL, state cup winners and wildcards boys and girls are in from what I read. But aren't state cups where you pay a fee and get in for USYS and NPL teams if you play JAGS or PAGS or whatever the state associated qualifying league is?
Oh, forgot - Good luck to all the Region 1 teams, girls and boys.
US Soccer controls everything. They will do all they need to do to make it the premier league. they can never allow their DA to be a secondary league to anyone. they will alienate folks, they will push the limits. high school waivers will be a thing of the past in another year, tolerated now because they need talent. they'll allow these partnerships for a while, but that too will go away. what heavy weight ever wants to share dinner with another? There is no second best. you're either tops or be content doing it another way. Like the boys, GdA will be tops in short order.
Yeah and like the boys DA has been failing. U.S. still can't compete against the world, and please don't say it takes time. Boys DA has been around for some time and U.S. men's teams are in no better shape than they were 15 years ago. When MLS realize they can make more money on there own they will branch out themselves away from DA just like the European clubs do. I can see in 10 years MLS clubs creating there own leagues within each club's surrounding area's.
10:04 I can see that. If you watched the FCC/Fire game on Wednesday/ESPN you were treated to a great game. You had the Fire probably the best team in the MLS if you like possession soccer they had about 80% of the possession and so many chances to score a goal. FCC playing at home in front of 30+ thousand fans (yes they are D2) played with 3 CBs kept their shape and countered or as many like to say kick and run they also had chances. Great goalie play kept the game 0-0 and PKs decided a winner and yes David won. Really was a great game, prior to this year we never had d2 teams put 30k in the seats. MLS has been around for over 20 years and just finally we are seeing how much soccer has grown in our country. Do not judge the Boys DA after just 6, we have plenty to learn and we are going down the right path.MLS just needs to relegate a few teams to have an 18 team MLS and an 18 team MLS2 this will expand the game create a great atmosphere like the one in Cincinnati on Wednesday for our kids to truly fall in love with this game. I also wish the NWSL becomes WMLS and all the MLS clubs put a team out there.
Are USYS Region 1 playoff scores real? FC Stars 10-0 win, Rush Blue 9-0, is this a joke?? I don't think my daughters ECNL team would lose that bad to Sky Blue FC, maybe over 3 games, but still, they will probably get more calls, for flopping. A total disgrace to the losing teams, NO one wants to drive 300 miles, and get clobbered like that. RI team dinner last night must of f been forgettable. 😭
Must be your first Rodeo 7:36. WV, ME, VT, RI are all notorious for getting hammered at Region 1. Waste of time playing those teams for the most part but i'm sure it's the same in R2-3-4.
7:36 perhaps the wildcats will be able to beat one of those.
Wildcats comIng home early. 0-2 after two days.
Kitty Kats falling to real teams once again such a shame. Kitty Kat parents just don't get it!
They get it moron, they are doing the best they can, look for better results at the National Cup, they might be a Finalist there, or even a champion. Crappy Massapequa team should fold quickly, hope wildcats finally succeed.
The #1 ranked team on the Globe goes down to LOUDOUN 02 RED (VA) 3-5, I am completely shocked, and Saddened. Oh well, maybe you guys can go to the NJ shore today, ahhhhh, maybe not, maybe stay in Maryland??
NJ Rush Blue lost to Loudin?
Yes, Loudoun Red VA beat NJ Rush today and will play Beach FC also from Virginia in the finals of USYS Region 1 championships tomorrow
Virginia soccer sucks, nuff said.
I read that Chris Christie was coaching the Rush team, figures.
5:39 Virginia soccer sucks? Could you be any more of a classless fool?
Sorry Christie was the whale on the now private beach that he closed - Island Beach, NJ so it had to be someone else coaching. Sorry.
Are they gonna bring back the old rage renegades coach?
Loudoun 02G Red are your Region 1 USYS Champions
Congrats, but no way do they beat my daughters ECNL team, no way, no how...
Either team will beat most ECNL teams
9:02, what do you base that on, any results against decent ECNL teams?
Is that the same Loudon 02's that PAC beat 4-0?
Memorial day weekend PAC beat Loudon Red 4-0.
Looks like Loudoun played two ECNL teams much earlier this year in the fall. Beat Bethesda and lost to World Class. Based on GotSoccer they beat Pipeline this spring and then went on a strong run to finish the year with wins over Lehigh Valley and NJ Rush Blue. The PAC loss looks like an anomaly.
Agreed. Those are good results. Bethesda ecnl a quality win for Loudin
Bethesda ECNL is NOT a decent ECNL team, they were 4-10-2 this past season, but given the stupidity of this thread, I will give them the benefit of doubt, good job Loudoun, enjoy your accomplishment!!
What other tourneys in Region 1 were taking place Memorial Weekend other than PDA and Delco?
1:50 Columbia MD
Rush blue coach will burn that team out. 31 games this spring plus whatever isn't shown on gotsoccer. That's an absurd number of games, especially for a team that has no clue how to control the pace of a game. It's 90 minutes of full speed kick ball. That just leads to overuse injuries and burnout.
Needham, up in Massachusetts...
Agree that 30-40 games in a season is too many and not healthy for the players, but wouldnt describe Rush blue as full speed kickball. Play more direct than some teams, but definitively have technical players. Can't win against strong U15 teams consistently like Rush does by playing kickball.
Have to give credit where credit is due, the Rush team has some extremely strong players. But, looking at the roster which I was not aware of is its a young team. Mostly 03's and even two 04's one of which is their keeper. Don't know the coach but he seems to be doing something right to win what they do with a younger team. Good luck next year. Fun team to follow.
Here we go again and debate about kick and run! Please stop at this age every team knows and has a style for success. Kick and Run to me is having a center back or goalie punt the ball into the opponent's side and having 3 forwards chase it. No way Rush or other teams are doing this every time they touch the ball as 9:35 just stated give credit where credit is due. Teams at this age mix up there style and maybe you see the kick and run once in while but having a young team like that move the ball well is all about coaching and chemistry.
@9:35 AM: We played Rush this Spring, they are a great team. The young keeper you speak of cannot be 04' she is the tallest girl on the team. God bless her if she is an 04' she is extremely good. Shut us out. Does anyone know where she will play in High School?
"kick and Run" is an excuse used by possession (indirect) teams who lose to a team who worked harder. Don't give me that "we lost but played soccer" crap.Sitting behind the ball and playing forward to a fast striker on counter attack is direct soccer. Aka Short-Short-Long. It is used by teams who have speed, power, size, and the fight to work hard. They may lack some skill but have the athletic ability to overcome it. It is also called American soccer. In Europe, they lack the talent pool and therefore lack the dynamic athletic ability at all 11 spots. They must play possession to make up for their own limitations. They spend much more time away from practice with a ball at their feet so their first touch will be much better across the pond. And it will be as long as basketball, softball, and lawn darts takes us away from soccer pick-up games. We are way more athletic and are better suited for indirect play. Trainers with accents are starting to figure this out now. Why make us play a system for the Dutch when we don't have to. You should play towards your strength. Stop whining and making excuses. I am sick of hearing it. The only determining factor of win or loss is who puts the most balls in the other teams goal!!!MNT, WNT, MLS, and NWSL all play very direct soccer!!!!
when a striker has to find where a ball is going, that's kick and run. kicking up the field without purpose is kick and run. i see it in high school too where a lot of kids are not soccer players. no soccer skill needed for this style.
it's like hitting a ball with a racket so it lands somewhere on the other side of the net and calling it tennis. not even close.
a long, direct ball isn't kick and run. but don't kid yourself. some teams do play kick and run.
I agree with 12:49. We should embrace mediocrity.
I heard the Rush GK was an 07, amazing, former circus performer! So eveyone loves SJEB Rush Blue, they are a great team, and this, and that, and we played them, and crap. If they are so great they would be going to Nationals, not Long Dong.
12:49 - Well put. I am tired of hearing we lost but we played better soccer. The goal is very simple. Put the ball in the net more times than the other team. Doesn't matter how you do it. I've seen Rush many times. They are very good team and well coached. We have jokers in NJ stealing money from parents who are teaching their kids how to dance with the ball, doing nut megs and useless step overs. All with their head down and then posting these videos on social media.
LOL. The North Koreans made us look silly last fall with our direct game. You can have elite athletes at every position and a very good possession/passing (Tiki Taka) team will make them look silly every time.
you are right, 1:50 long duck dong is still recovering with the geek and jake on sixteen candles. molly ringwald was at the game, too.
when you're not the strongest and the fastest - that useless stepover is the difference if you can put the ball in the net.
Let me re-check these scenario's again: Team A: Plays (Tiki Taka) soccer keeps possession with great skill players but can't put the ball in the net to win. Let's say they are Rank 100 on GS Team B: Plays a more direct game mixes it up with kick and run long ball and ball movement from the backs. Let's say they are Rank top 5 on GSTeam A parents spend $ to sit home and not get invited to big showcases for college to watch and Team A paying the same $ get's invited to showcases and has 10-20 scouts watching. Which team would you pick for your daughter. Bottom line it doesn't matter direct or not direct winning is winning and leads to exposure. Isn't that what you should be looking for at this specific age not a local tournament with a handful of D3 coaches coming to watch.
Looks like team A is the best, and worst, of both worlds....
523pm. Ha. Now that's funny. Watch a real game and see how many stepovers are performed. ZERO.
or maybe get them on an ECNL team and have 5 coaches at practices and 50+ at tourneys. btw - the ECNL team is probably ranked pretty low in GSP too as they don't use them.
8:14 watch any video of player of the year award - man or woman - and get back with your comment
I have been coaching soccer for 30 years at all levels and in my opinion you coach a system but also to the strengths of the players you have. There is a time for possession and a time for direct play. I have played against teams that definitely emulate the "Joga bonito" and other teams that use fast players on the wings and big legs in the back. Comparing ECNL possession teams to what some are calling kick and run non-ECNL teams is apples and oranges, because you can flip styles and have kick and run ECNL teams. With the different leagues and the crowning of multiple national champions throughout causes a pride of league and the nonsense that goes on here. I know my daughter is not in the elite top tier but she is a recognizable player in her position. Just like others I have seen play who weren't on the right team or with the right club. A lot of the speculation on this board is the same speculation that goes on building the teams. some clubs/coaches actually have a vision and select players based on their vision of play, other coaches just load up with recognizable talent and coach to win, and whether that is kick and run or possession doesn't matter. Recognition at that next level is based on relationship, reputation and ability. And yes being at the right showcase at the right time.
1043pm. Easy there Messi I mean Average Game. Watch the next USWNT game. Joke. Put the ball in the net and stop dancing with it with your head down.
Agree! 8:30 bottom line Team B puts the ball in the net what college coach wouldn't want that. You can find a million players that know how to dance with the ball, but if you can't put the ball in the net what does it matter. Just like any other sport you can catch a football but if you can't catch it in the end zone what does it matter, you can dribble a basketball like no other but if you can't shoot than what does it matter. Scouts look for girls that can play multiple positions and can drill that ball in the back of the net. Sorry but all that dancing leading to a turn over bugs me so much. Go to dance school then.
My daughter sat in on a college seminar and the coach said."Do not send me videos of scissors, step-overs, juggling, or trick shots into garbage cans. Those are the first I delete."Nobody cares is you can do a Maradona or rainbow at midfield with no defender on you. It is actually selfish and egotistical play that college coaches hate! To them, the see a problem in the locker room and training field with that kind of player. They want team players!
The movie Victory set our country back in soccer development! We still haven't recovered...
Are you kidding me!!!A entire generation of US kids introduced to some of the greatest players in the world. Pelé, Bobby Moore, John Wark, Osvaldo Ardiles, Kazimierz Deyna, Søren Lindsted, Paul Van Himst, Werner Roth, Mike Summerbee, Hallvar Thoresen, Russell Osman, Kevin O'Callaghan, Co Prins, Laurie Sivell, Robin Turner, Kevin Beattie, and Paul Cooper.The move came out in 1981. Just when soccer was starting to blossom in the US. We owe everything to Sly. He gave us hope with Rocky, pride with Rambo, and Soccer with Hatch.
HaHa the creation of DA has set us back for a years as well. Please tell how it has gotten the boys side better and many girls will flock away from it in due time.
The U-20 Boys made it to world cup quarterfinals. That is not too shabby!They also made history by defeating Honduras 5-3 on penalty kicks to earn the U.S. its first CONCACAF title at the U-20.System is working!!!
10 Best Soccer Movies Ever Made1. Maradona2. Football Factory3. Victory4. Mean Machine5. Looking for Eric6. The Damned United7. Mike Bassett8. Fever Pitch9. Zidane10. The Goal! Trilogy
That is a terrible list.You forgot Bend it like Beckham, Kicking and Screaming, and the Two Escobars.
Food for thought:The top 9 in the EPL table had the highest number of passes and the highest possession time and the highest number of goals. A successful team plays as a team, keeps compact in possession and exploits opportunities. While kick and run can put a few goals in the back of the net it's the players that can play steady and be patient on the ball while also thinking about the first touch and the next pass. College coaches are looking for these skills. The best ID camp my daughter went to (and the college she committed to) had the coach on the field during the games pointing out possession opportunities, correcting the decision to play a long ball out of the back to no-one and field awareness. At the start of the one camp a lot of the girls were playing dribble step-over cryuff moves, and losing possession by the end they were receiving and sending touch passes down the field. My daughter is a keeper and her style is distribute first, long ball second. This was fortunate as it was the method preferred not only by this coach but by others as well. It's great to have some footskills to get out of trouble and the occaisional "Oh $#!+" nutmeg is fun to watch, but trying this and losing possession will not get you too many looks.
"Silent September" for all South Carolina youth soccer matches. New rule for one month. "No cheering, no jeering." Parents get two warnings and then kicked out! (reported by CNN)Good Rule? It will keep more refs and more refs mean bigger pool to pick from for big games.Also, Pele: Birth of a Legend (2016) is a MUST see. It shows how robotic and stuffy non-creative soccer almost ruined the greatest player ever!
Some fair comments here. Sadly it seems like the kid on our team that is getting the most looks turns it over a tremendous amount. I think 80% of forward touches. Not sure what game our coaches and college coaches are watching but a top player needs to be able to hold possession and not turn it over on the vast majority of touches. Constant turn over at midfield just doesnt work. I think the maradonna at midfield is also an issue. These moves are great to have in the tool box but need to be able to use them functionally. I think there are only a handful in the state that can do this. Sadly the college system although changing still rewards the kick and run play. Just a few years ago unc was alone at the top bombing balls to their superior athletes. Now you are seeing more teams play better posession soccer and more teams that will win championships. Watch the national championship game usc vs wvu some great soccer played at both schools. But this is the exception not the rule.
I agree with all of this. If you cannot finish you are not that good. I have seen it many times and recently as well. you can dribble, be fast, but if you are hitting the post, shooting over the net, you are not a finisher and that is a big problem. With great goal keepers, technology, you have to crash the net and score many goals. I don't know how you accomplish that, each team would have to figure it out, but that is certainly a game changer. 2 to 3 goals in soccer is typically insurmountable. Look at the scores of games in our age group, and even look at Region 1 scores. Many goals scored.
11:13 - Kicking & Screaming...love it. and She's the Man; The Big Green and Air Bud - classics.
Oh and Ladybugs with Rodney Dangerfield. Hilarious!
Its going to be Solar Chelsea vs. So Cal Blues, both are aggressive and fast. We watched both play in Rockford, and honestly my daughter is just as tactical/technical as any of those girls, but she lacks flat-out beast-speed. So if you were a D1 coach, which would you take, and why?Same level of play, except exceptional speedSame grades/scoresSame extra stuffYou gets an offer?
4:44 Exactly my point aggressive, strong, fast and puts the ball in the net or win's 50/50 balls in the back or mid those girls will get over with any D1 coach than a dancer that likes to ball hog. This has been America's style and what has become a staple of success the last decade and half which led to Gold Medals, World Cups, etc. Why try to change it because the powers discussed with other countries and they put it in there heads the other countries are catching up, forget that let them keep chasing good ole U.S.A! Sorry I'm big believer don't touch what's not broke and stick with it until otherwise.
certain things can't be coached. they are genetic like speed, size, physical ability, athleticism, even iq. a kid can be taught technical skills and soccer iq, but you can't coach tall, fast and athletic if it isn't in their dna already. those kids always get chosen in any sport.
Just as 12:20 has a tall fast less-skilled kid, you 2:59 have a more-skilled, less fast kid, I hope you both find what you are looking for, unless you both have that right now, which I think you do, enjoy, and cherish.
And 5:19 is a ref.
2:59i wasn't dissing short people or their work ethic. genetically gifted can't be coached. you must have dwarfs in your family. sorry to have hit a nerve. btw - tall, fast and athletic kids can also have very good work ethics, too. it's called self discipline and motivation.
and never said this had anything to do with my kid. she happens to be quite skilled. if you are tall, fast, skilled and athletic you tend to get picked out pretty quickly.
and thanks 5:19 - count our blessings. no matter what, they will always be our little girls.
the ones who are not physically gifted, who don't have the D! body or the size or speed and quickness go to D2 or D3, just as in the other sports.It's a combination of the genetics along with the hard work and training you put in over the years. Every college coach at a big time program wants great athletes because that is what you need to win at that level. don't be a fool. Did you see the athletic freaks on the field in the College Cup final between USC and West Virginia.
Its not all physical Dr. D1. All great college programs need a field general or two to lead their team, to find the openings, to think ahead for their team, there is always a place for a player who is skilled, and smart, as opposed to the other amazons on a particular team. Every suceessful program has a mix of players that compliment each other, and can compete with other girls with similar skills.
Chew on this. Below is the list of WSNT roster height. 5-1 5-25-45-55-55-65-75-75-75-75-75-75-85-85-85-95-96-0
According to that chart my daughter would be the 2nd tallest player, and she is just as technical/tactical as any ECNL player I have seen the last 6 months, except for one ; )
You every think about giving up soccer to pursue lacrosse, field hockey, track and field? My daughters love the game, adore it. Sometimes i just wonder if they might enjoy another team sport, or maybe come to love individual sports like T&F, swimming, cycling, rowing.
Soccer is in her blood, its her heritage, all of her cousins play, besides she laughs at Lacrosse girls, she wonders why they always pull-up when they get to an attacking player, hahaha, good question.
SOCCER = LIFE
10:24 in lacrosse there is a shooting space rule. that may be why. yrs ago my female soccer player friends in college also played lacrosse in the off season if the school had it (before spring soccer came about as a must in most college programs). now field hockey, that is one i scratch my head. you are stopped for whistles more than you are playing, it seems. and, they play an entire game in a soccer half. Now, ice hockey is great girls.
*ice hockey is great for girls.
10:02agreed. there is always a place for kids who understand the game. but a field general will use her players to compliment her not try to fight the battle herself. i see too many girls that this age that once they get the ball, they try to do it alone. smart players create opportunities not think they are the only opportunity. that is an asset all coaches want to see.
I once heard a coach say that the further the feet are from the head the harder it is to control the ball. I have a tall daughter and she plays the appropriate position for her height and skills, keeper. She transitioned to the position later and was an admirable field player (leading scorer on her team through U15). Below is the breakdown of height for current PSU Squad:Height # of players5.3 25.3 45.4 15.5 95.6 65.7 46.0 16.1 1
And how real are those heights? Prob shave an inch off and its still a touch high.
1:12 PM They are rounded up. When I cut and pasted it actually provided the height in inches, I converted to feet via Excel. Slow day at work. I noticed watching the NCAA tournament games last year that a good number of the players were shorter with may 3 taller players in the middle. It even looked like some of the keepers were around 5'7" - 5'9". The difference is speed. I believe the move is to somewhat of a basketball model of quick feet, good handling and feeding the taller players in the middle. It goes back to the old mantra, beat one player ok, beat two players your good, beat 3 players your lucky. More direct play to the wings or over the top with speed to collect the ball and serve it back inside the box.
Thought only basketball team rosters lied about player height?
Congrats to all the local ECNL teams that made the top flight playoffs in Chicago. Big shout-out to FC Stars for making the quarter finals. Will be interesting to see how next year goes, since most teams have lost their best players to DA.
Which teams lost their players?
I tried to ask parents as much as I could, most said that some of their best had chosen DA, don't know the specifics, but our team lost 2 players, so we should be in good shape.
Yeah, I feel for those departing players as well. Grass is not greener. Hopefully they enjoy it. its an 11 month season, big expense, in a newly formed league with average competition. Enjoy.
For those attending the NPL Finals this weekend! Good Luck
11:52 has brought up 6 interesting points in order to make themselves feel better about not going to the DA. Lets take one at a time.1. "Grass is not greener" - It is because the DA fields are a new color turf with more green die. This color is only available through USA soccer to their DA clubs. Also, your grass can't be any greener with all the PISSING and moaning you are doing. Get it, piss kills grass.2. "enjoy it" - Thanks, we will all enjoy it because you are not there.3. "its an 11 month season" - Your daughter's season is 11 months long when you add HS + Club. However, DA will actually play less games and has systems in place to prevent overuse injuries. The training is also much better than your English teacher run program of laps and line drills.4. "big expense" - We have already dispelled the cost rumor. It is much less than ECNL for dues but a wash because the travel is a bit more. Travel is almost the same as the Region-1 league too. With the price of just one cup of coffee per day you can help a child get a scholarship. #spend$$2make$$5. "newly formed league" - Change happens. Embrace it and adapt or live in the past and keep using that flip phone you have. Also, the DA is not all new either. The successful boys program has been around for a few years now and the U-20 boys team is proof of the success.6. "average competition" - I like this one the best. If rosters are not set and not a single game has been played how could you know? Can you help me pick my fantasy football team? You seem to know how teams will do before draft day or the free trade deadline. If you take away most (not all) of the best ECNL players to make a new team, you just watered down ECNL and made DA the best. Please don't "Feel" sorry for us. My daughter is very happy and excited for this new experience. Your dead grass is making me sneeze. You know its an eleventeen month long season, big expense, once mighty league with newly lowered competition. Enjoy.
eye roll @3:06 and @11:52Does it really matter? Seriously? blah blah blah. My league is better. My team is better. My child is better. I am all wise and knowing. blah blah blah.And the world turns. Best wishes and much success to all your daughters, regardless of the league, club, or team.
Don't have a GDA club within 2 hours of us so not worth trying out.Sounds neat though.
I agree 100% 4:12 - but why are we on this board if not to be a fan of our kid's team? I am a fan and yes they are the best team around and she is the best player in the world in my eyes. blah blah blah.3:061. I agree2. not nice3. What do you really think matters to 99% of the players and yours - training or playing games? For my kid it's playing games.4. Who cares about cost - we all will pay any price if we think it's worth it regardless.5. Most of the top clubs are ECNL - so not so much new - just a new league for those A teams and some room at the table for some new clubs.6. I agree nobody can know - but the GDA is built for the younger ages - the HS age kids got the shaft to late in the game for them the benefit.7. I agree ECNL will rebrand and be the same as the Boys ECNL - NPL Champions and ECNL division champs playing for a title. Not weak though. My girl isn't ECNL or GDA or NPL but she has 3 offers made already - so their is plenty of opportunity for all - Just do what's right for your kid and your family if your kid can ball it will work out.11:59 - let's not forget stay safe with that crazy weather
Your 02 daughter has 3 commit-offers, and she doesn't play for any US Club based team? I WANT TO BELIEVE 💩
The better training and training methods in general being a USDA is going to benefit. I disagree strongly that they want to play more games. At this point most of our daughters have played several hundred matches, year round. They can now use proper training, proper techniques, qualified licensed coaches who follow USDA training rules. Which includes injury prevention, stretching, fitness, proper goal keeping training, proper defensive formations and offensive formations. Don't be stuck with a club that cannot provide this if you are really serious. They will explain we follow USDA training regulations, read about it online and join if you want. Now, to be clear, this is certainly not for everyone. Great example probably never for my son. Lucky if he can play EDP at U14.
Its really hard to turn chicken shit into chicken salad, just saying....
I guess you don't watch Top Chief or Chopped. I have seen it as a basket ingredient at some point. the judges loved it.
sorry we watch the bootlegged version, not top chef, top chief. lol anyway, you get my point. enjoy the food.
6:51 amlove the punctuation usage. :)maybe his kid plays for a USYS team. So, congrats. Hope your 3 offers are from schools/programs that fit your needs. great to get committed (if it's what you/she want) and move forward.
PDA South (AJAX) lose to Albany Alleycats 2-1, ouch.
At the NPL nationals it looks like 3 out of 4 teams from the northeast representing in the semis: Alleycats, PDA, FC Stars. Not too bad.
I'm not sure why its called "NPL Nationals" considering that the west coast teams have generally skipped this event. Out of 22 NPL Leagues maybe 12 participate per each group.
2:11 that speaks volumes to how the leagues are viewed on the other side.US Club top event is their National Cup the equivalent to the USYS top event the NCS.USYS top league the National League advances it's division winners to the NCS.for US Club you have the National Cup for all teams not ECNL -NPL is viewed as a 3rd tier title by the west coast why else not play in it.
Sorry you didnt qualify 2:11Must be killing you jusssst a bitBy the way, did you know NPL rules state that NPL management can invite non champions to fill its national bracket?Wondering this year why they didnt at U16, opting to go with unbalanced divisions (2 div of 4, 1 of 6 teams)
Not sure what your agenda is but yes 12-15 is usually the number to participate. Not all elect to go I would assume mostly cost and maybe thin rosters with injuries by seasons end. In the 02 age group the northern (FC Elk) and southern (SoCal blues) California teams participated. Who else did you want there to make it official for you?
If some teams opt out, it still has the same ending result (i.e., a national championship). Good luck to those participating.
Again why would teams want to travel to a event when they know scouts are not in capacity to come watch, that is the reason why teams opt out. Not about winning anymore folks.
You are correct some bitterness on here. The bottom line is great teams participated at this age group for sure.
Great teams? Relax soccer-daddy, great is reserved for the So Cal Blues of the world, 29-0 ECNL National Champs, that is great.
there number of coaches participating at the npl finals was 1/3rd of what you can see at fort dix. great facility tho.so cal blues (baker) will be plating at the surf cup in 1 1/2 weeks.
There weren't a ton of coaches but anytime you can have Notre Dame watching your game is a trip well spent.
1/3 of coaches and 1/32 less games. Ratio is better at NPL!And yes the facility was great too. The experience was worth the cost in our minds. My most favorite family vacations as a kid and Mom have been at far off soccer fields. My kids agree!!!
NPL Finals: 10+ college coachesECNL Playoffs: 80+ college coachesTake out a calculator if you must.
This year's NPL finals = next year's ECNL playoffs!!!
4:58 https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/collgecoachattending.aspx?eid=356there were over 200 coaches registered for the ECNL playoffs and not all register. We had over 80 at one game alone.
Scout breakdown argument.This is the age where you need to realize your daughters potential and opportunities and set her expectations (and yours). As the father of an older daughter who came late to the ECNL party I have been able to read the tea leaves. Top women's college soccer programs will recruit top u15 players, if your daughter is on the radar for the top 25 you will know it, if not and you keep receiving camp/ID offers because the ECNL sells your info try this. Attend one of the camps or clinics, email the coach after and invite them to a game, if they show up talk to your coach to see if he had a conversation, if so pursue, if not move on. Please don't think because "80" college coaches showed up to a game your daughter played in that all 80 have her on their recruiting sheet. maybe 60 of those coaches were there for one girl, on the other team :)
9:15. I agree with you if your kid is 2020 but also know that some coaches are having success with late recruiting. As far as 2021 if you are in the mix I think you are just starting to get specialized contact from coaches. Agree not all 80 care about my kid but some coaches will notice other kids than the special one they are coming to see. So its great exposure for 2021s to have 80 coaches and get on the early look list for next year. For the poster who thinks ecnl will be npl next year I think this has injected a lot of uncertainty into the process and they will cover both at least for next fall. If the ecnl product remains strong they will continue longer. Which stinks because here ecnl plays hs in fall. So we are a bit reliant of the spring hs teams performance.
First of all, I would love for my daughter to win a state cup, go to nationals, or npl finals at the least. I recently sat next to a mother who told me I cannot afford to play any type of travel soccer. So her daughter just plays high school because free. And she is a great player who I am sure with training and coaching would do very well in travel. So going ecnl, or npl, or anything beyond any town team is expensive. Many single parents cannot afford even $1,000 extra per year. So they may be on a town team btw and very, very good. it is what it is. And again if they contact coaches, send emails with videos I am sure they can get into something, somewhere. You just have to be a great player. Step to ball, finish if striker, give 100% all the time and have heart.
12:11 Yes you are spot on to every 1 GDA/ECNL/NPL type of player there are probably 5 other girls/boys similar with the right training and atmosphere would be a great player. This is what's broken in youth soccer system in the U.S., asking parents to pay $'s at 8 years old and above is just wrong for the sport.
My point of reference for this is skewed. Is AAU free? what about the Flag football and leagues leading up to middle school? I do not believe the pay to play is unique to Soccer. And I have seen recognition in our area for inner city kids getting into the preps (2 girls specifically to a 25K a year school). From there they were offered spots on ECNL teams which I am thinking are subsidized. The parents are very grateful for these opportunities which are also leading to college opportunities. I don't think pay to play is the issue per se, I see a bigger issue with nepotism and favoritism. For some kids no matter how much you pay you may never see a lot of field time. Although I know some parents with disposable income are happy to have their girls where certain teams uniforms for the cache.
Is it the parents or the kids who want that cache? just crazy. there are plenty of other sports out there where they may excel. shame.
AAU is in fact FREE for many inner city (underpriveleged) youth.Would an NPL or ECNL club give a full scholarship to a gifted player whose parents cold not pay a dime?I bet they would - in many instances.
1:20 PM to me it's an interesting situation. If a club is willing to underwrite the cost of fees, travel all or part it is up to them and in certain cases is warranted (most clubs have a financial aid policy). But here is also the situation where a player/parent signs up based on the quoted cost and due to added fees, mandatory club programs and other incidentals the cost starts to increase, they can stretch to afford it but it is not easy. I have been on teams where parents were individually "fund-raising" which was against club rules ad was brought to the attention of the club when the parent was soliciting other parents on the team. Basically her daughter was selling something that was contributing to her soccer fees. Another thing that is popping up is the "Help send my daughter to Nationals" where people blatantly set up a go fund me site to solicit funds. Maybe in some cases after the loss of a parent or true hard times it is applicable but often it is just asking for an unnecessary handout.
1:20 correct the inner city kids that play for free are ballers and are given the free ride based on what they can do on the court.Soccer will do the same thing for the gifted - the issue with soccer is that there is not a lot of separation between the kids that play high level. Some just have a longer leash and appear to be better because they play more minutes and can get into a groove
There is a ton of competition for charitable dollars asking for travel soccer $$ must be a tough ask. It is not like a kid is fundamentally deprived if they don't play club soccer. It seems like every week at school there is a fund raiser for a different serious medical condition. Travel sports do pale in comparison.
spot on. good reminder - if you are not visiting your kid constantly in a hospital, you are already ahead of the game. anything else can be worked out.
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