Wednesday, July 1, 2015

U14G / U14 Girls Youth Soccer

U14G  / U14 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

I'll ask the question again. If ECNL seems to put the most girls onto the top Division 1 teams, why wouldn't you play for them now? If PDA or MF become a DA why would girls decide now it's worth playing there when before it wasn't? It can't be just cost. Everyone on this blog, except for town teams, pays about the same to play today. I would even argue that it is more expensive to play for PL or Wildcats today then it is to play for PF or PDA given the amount of leagues and tournaments they do. So why would a "DA" make you make you switch teams next year if the better college choice is available to you today and your not taking advantage of it?

Anonymous said...

Boston Breakers’ youth club partnership with Scorpions SC dissolved
By News Desk / November 17, 2015

All that talk about FC Boston and NEFC combining teams.

NEFC does become ECNL -ELITE is ECNL and Premier is NPL.

I understand the player movement now

Anonymous said...

Because all the girls have dreams of playing for the NT.

Playing College ball has many different avenues to get that.

4:43 I'll ask you the question - how do you feel about NPL? ECNL will become NPL? Look at Disney vs NPL Showcase - NPL teams skipped on their own showcase to play Disney - same will happen to ECNL no loyalty.

Anonymous said...

4:43.

Ill give your question.

If your daughter can plays 40 minutes on an ECNL team or 70 minutes on a highly competitive showcase team. Which would you choose? If the coaching on an ECNL team is not the style in which your daughter would flourish e.i physical and more direct compared to one touch passing and working in pairs of 3's. which team would you choose. If the showcase team is on the same level or notch below the encl. team but participates in Disney showcase's and even gives the ECNL team all they can handle in a friendly. what team would you choose?. If some of the same college coaches that we have written to are some of same that the ECNL parents have wiitten to-And they show up to watch our daughter on the pitch to play as well- as part of their due diligence, which team would you choose?. If the showcase team have a roster of 17 and all girls taken get to play and a bond is forged is a special one. which team would you choose?

The question is a very simple one. which team gives YOUR specific daughter the best opportunity to play lots of minutes and get better and to be seen by the coaches that you have written to without the fear of being pulled after 15 minutes of play.

The answer to that question is ECNL for some and a high level showcase teams for others.


Soccer Nut


Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

Soccer Nut, I assume you would say the same thing about being one of 30 on a DA team and therefore playing less minutes. Or maybe not.

Your logic for your daughter is sound. However, I was referring to the posts that indicate that the DA is going to help their daughter who is currently not on an ECNL team. I don't see much of a difference. If she is good enough to make the DA team she would be good enough to not only start but see majority minutes on any ECNL team which would afford her the most exposure. Isn't that what you want for your kid?

Anonymous said...

3:00 Your visions of the DA becoming the Obama care of soccer are grand. Gee, I guess they'll be giving out soccer training vouchers, gas coupons, free cleats along with that Obama phone. Wrong, but a grand idea. The players that have been highly trained by coaches, that were in turn paid by parents who were willing to spend the money, will be the ones taken.
Some of our greatest athletes in this country will never even step on a soccer field because of:
1. Lack of accessibility to fields

2. The community they live in does little to endorse it

3. It is not look on as a glamour sport among peers.

4. Overall cost (time, gas, car care, travel, food, etc etc)

Until US Soccer figures a way to unlock the incredible resource that is our inner city athletes and families. Soccer will always rely on who can afford it and with that being said, many of those playing now cannot. There are parents that will forgo a mortgage or car payment in order to make sure the soccer payment is in. I do believe you have the right frame of hope for a DA program, but that's not the reality of what will be

The Grimm Reaper

Anonymous said...

Until there is incentive to make it about talent and not just talent that can afford to pay big bucks to play, things will likely stay pretty much as is. DA should look to address pay to play or is not much different than what exists right now. ECNL is a luxury league for affluent athletes not a National development program. THe DA will be the same if costs are not controlled.

Anonymous said...

How is ECNL for the affluent? I think most of these clubs are the same cost as any other club. Also, most of the clubs provide financial support for the families who can't afford to pay.

Anonymous said...

That is true. Only difference is travel may be more as ECNL teams generally fly 3x a year. My kid is at an ECNL club and I know what her friends at other clubs pay. Some in fact are more.

Anonymous said...

Until U15 the ECNL teams aren't flying 3x a year. They travel less than Soccer Nuts "showcase" team.

Anonymous said...

No difference between ECNL or any club that costs as much. The lot of them are for affluent athletes. IF there is a scholarship or two not enough to make any significant impact. If you think those programs serve talent of limited means you are not paying attention

Anonymous said...

I do not know any clubs that look to serve talent of limited means, except maybe local clubs that take on all comers. Clubs have no problem offering a scholarship to a talented player in order to keep them on, but would a lesser talent get that same offer? Up to U14, ecnl and non ecnl club cost is very similar. Its after U15 that it changes dramatically.

Anonymous said...

IF DAP does not look to control costs and serve a larger pool of talent it is not much of a national development program, just another pay to play academy for the same talent being served now.

Anonymous said...

12:23, your lack of knowledge of other clubs and your constant put down of the elite clubs is why you shouldn't be posting.

Anonymous said...

8:48 I am not putting down "elite" clubs. My daughter plays for one of them. I am just citing what is considered business as usual in the soccer world. Since you are not very bright and refuse to take off the rose colored glasses, I'll fill you in.

Now ask yourself (slowly of course, because your not very bright), Does having stronger players make for a better team?

Which is a bigger draw for players and parents when deciding on a team? A well coached team at the top of the pack or a well coached team near the bottom with players that just can't compete?

Is soccer a business where money is to be made? In any business do you not treat your best customers a little different from the rest?

Does it make sense for a soccer club to ensure it will stay near the top and continue to draw better players? And how does it a achieve that? By making sure its best players stay

Are many parents happy that their kid is on a good team, proud to tell other parents about it and more than happy to pay the check? And it turn getting more players to try out?

Its just business and soccer is a huge business. Look at teams that have become irrelevant over the past two years because they have lost their best players. I'm not putting the "elite" clubs down, I admire their business savvy and on occasion have been the benefactor of such generosity.


The administrator should put an asterisk next to all your post so that everyone knows its a really stupid person posting and there is no sense in reading it.

Anonymous said...

Pointing out that elite clubs are not designed to serve talent of limited means is not a put down, it is a statement of fact. Or at least it is for the one I have experience with and I do assume the others serve a similar clientele. Pay to play is not a commonly mentioned problem with US soccer development over and over and over?

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Anonymous said...

@10:30 I am not a regular contributor, but I am a regular reader. If you're going to call someone stupid you should have a better command of spelling, grammar, and the fundamental use of the English language.

Anonymous said...

Heyyyy! The spell check and grammar Nazi is back!!

Anonymous said...

"No grammar for you!"
I miss Seinfeld

Anonymous said...

2016 Region I Champions League, U14 Girls

Elite Red

1776 UNITED FC XTREME
BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE
CENTURY V 0102 GOLD
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED
PWSI COURAGE 01G RED
RHINOS ELITE SC 01/02

Elite Blue

BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE
EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU14 (01/02 )
FC FREDERICK '01
GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECT
PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES

Premier Red

BEADLING U14 GIRLS PREMIER
DMS SOCCER DMS GU14 ACADEMY
EUSA EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO
HOTSPURS ELITE 0102
VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14
WNY FLASH ACADEMY WNY FLASH GIRLS 01/02

Premier Blue

ABBEY VILLA SC BARCELONA
HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO
KIRKWOOD ACADEMY 01/02
NORDIC SC NORDIC 14 PREMIER GIRLS
NORTHERN STEEL ECLIPSE
TCSC REVOLUTION

Anonymous said...

Go NYSC!

Anonymous said...

Go averbush!!
Go trump!

Anonymous said...

Ask yourself if you play for one of these so called non profit clubs how often you have seen them donating their time and knowledge training the local areas low-income and minority kids. Maybe 1 or 2 times a year to protect their "Non-Profit Entity" status? Whatever amount of your dues and other club income is left over after they pay the cost of running the teams and put some of what's left into facilities and upkeep of the site the rest(and this amount left over is a Huge Number$$$) they divvy up between the clubs owners, the DOC and Club Officers and Administrators.
They have to spend all of whats left on salaries otherwise if any of the clubs dues/income is left over at the end of the fiscal year they are by definition making a profit and no longer a non-profit entity. This is a prime reason why the DA is necessary and will be better serving of the families than ECNL as the top level of youth soccer. It needs to be about development and identification of the most talented youth players, not about the $$$ as the primary driving force. This is the only way to limit the politics and not favor the wealthy and connected families and their children. If you want to know how much they fear this information becoming commmon knowledge among you better read it quick because they will delete it right away even though it mentions no names or spcific clubs or breaks any of the sites rules. "This site is for information and education" my you know what. Big Brother is watching.

Anonymous said...

1027 And how do you get recognized for DA squads? Oh that's right your spending $$$ on their clinics and programs to even get a look or a parents is playing for high end club paying $$$ for them a coach to give recommendation. Rarely you see a town level travel player called into a DA squad with the boys.

Anonymous said...

Reminder that if and when girls DA is enacted, your daughter doesn't have to try out or may not even make it. There will always be an elite side to the club. DA also runs on even years...U16, U18. '01 girls would be looking at U18 by then...

Anonymous said...

The non-profit status comes from the "educational" nature of the program, not from helping out community members in need of financial assistance.

Anonymous said...

BS 11:19. You need to look a little closer at the laws for non profit entities.
And I am not saying there are not costs with training and developing on your own outside of team/club or even DA. Yes, all of these players who will be competiting for spots have put in the time on their own and their families have paid dearly in costs to support them in their soccer journey. Just saying "once you are chosen to be part of the DA Program", it will no longer be about $$$ and only those who are evaluated as deserving will be selected.

Anonymous said...

Took all of 30 seconds t find this:


7.25.26.2 (04-08-1999)
Qualification under IRC 501(c)(3) or IRC 501(c)(4)

Sports activity is not in and of itself an exempt activity under IRC 501(c). However, amateur sports organizations may qualify for IRC 501(c)(3) exemption under any of three different rationales.

An organization may be educational within the meaning of IRC 501(c)(3) if it teaches sports to youth or by being affiliated with an exempt educational organization. Such educational organizations may also provide facilities and equipment.

Anonymous said...

It does not say they must be low income youth, just youth. Tax free. Not about the clientele, the fees, the salaries, just that youth are taught to play a sport. (and there can be no "profit")

Anonymous said...

Would love to be in that Region 1 Elite Blue. Nice division.

Anonymous said...

This is not for everyone lot's of Travel - Soccer becomes a full time job for player and family and most of the clubs won't change. I bet most of the ECNl clubs will be offered a spot and then some of the Boy Academies followed by an Application process. Lot's of Non-ECNL teams will break apart some of the ECNL players may change to a club that is closer to home outside of that NO BIG CHANGE - all this talk about Free might be for nothing since they have a Full and partial scholarship program for players unless that's to cover travel?

Also please stop with this tax code stuff way to deep for soccer talk and has nothing to do with the game.

What is the Development Academy Program?

Academy club directors ->>> USSF ‘A’ License and must complete the Academy Director’s course
Academy club technical staff ->>> USSF ‘B’ license (minimum)

Development Academy clubs are required to train a minimum of four (4) days per week and rest one (1) day per week during the Academy season. Academy teams will play approximately 30 games per year.

Any club is welcome to apply, but admission is very selective. Applications will be evaluated holistically using the following measures:

National Team Coach Analysis based on U.S. Soccer's Development Philosophy

7 Key Performance Categories
1. Player Development Effectiveness
2. Staff, Leadership, Structure, and Qualifications
3. Style of Play & Philosophy
4. Training Environment & Personal Development
5. Facilities & Infrastructure
6. Respect
7. Resources

History of Youth National Team and professional player production

History of success in elite competitions

Geography Impact on existing Academy members

Each club must have a minimum roster of 32 full-time players and no more than 46 full-time players at the U-15/16 and U-17/18 age groups combined.

Seven (7) geographically-based divisions at both the U-15/16 and U-17/18 levels. Each team plays home and away games against the other teams in their division, plus games against non-division opponents from across the country during the 10-month season.

The U-15/16 & U-17/18 age groups will compete at the Academy Playoffs for one of eight spots in the Academy Championships.

The U-15/16 & U-17/18 age groups will compete in (2) National Showcase events throughout the Academy season concluding with the Academy Championships in mid-July.

Winter Showcase
Summer Showcase and Playoffs
Academy Championships

Anonymous said...

Only 2-3 decent teams in Elite Blue. South Shore only top notch team in it. You don't get to see many top level games do you 4:17?

Anonymous said...

SSS not that special, we played them, very direct, over the top, send it to the big fast girl, who cheats by pushing and pulling, like I said nothing special.

Anonymous said...

Uhhhh.... we play EVERYBODY, 5:53

Off your high horse now.

You dont know sh*t about the division.

Anonymous said...

Not in that league you dont.

Anonymous said...

Yet South Shore will clean up in that division with no issues. It's more a question of who will take second.

Anonymous said...

1. SSS
2. EUSA
3. PL

the rest

YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES
0:1 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY
0:1 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL
1:2 HMMS Eagle FC Spirit
0:1 HULMEVILLE Dynamo

UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK
0:1 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE
3:4 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE
1:4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
0:2 SJEB '01G NPL
1:4 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS
1:5 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES
0:1 SJEB '01G NPL

FC FREDERICK '01
0:1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
0:3 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL
1:2 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL
0:1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
0:1 TOTAL FUTBOL ACADEMY TFA ELITE 01
2:3 MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE
0:1 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER

Anonymous said...

I believe clubs need to make their intentions known asap after the NSCAA convention results/announcement.
This will in big part dictate where girls tryout in the Spring, if anyone wants to switch in preparation of DA coming...
In the meantime, sit back and enjoy the heavy frost on the ground....

Anonymous said...

Will the DA start at u12?

Anonymous said...

Good question. Find out soon enough,

Anonymous said...

Just a reminder on the boys side, they will now have independent U12, U13, U14 age groups. Expect the same thing for the girls.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup accepted teams and flights?

Anonymous said...

Boys academy has U12 born in 2004 next fall. So the following fall (2017) will U12 be born in 2005? The ages at academy seem to be different from the rest of the leagues.

Anonymous said...

I have seen chatter that it will start in 2016.

Anonymous said...

NSA chatter? :)

Anonymous said...

Championship

BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
CASL 01 ECNL (NC)
FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)
PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)

EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)
FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)

Anonymous said...

CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)
FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
NSA TWISTERS (IL)

1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)
GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
OAKWOOD SC (CT)
------------------------------

MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)
PDA AJAX (NJ)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)
YMS BANSHEES (PAE)

ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)
CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)

Anonymous said...

CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)

FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)
PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)

-------------------------------------

FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)
LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)

FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)
MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)
SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED FC 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)

Anonymous said...

BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)
HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)
NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA)

FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)
STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)

--------------------------

DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)
HFC READY '01 (PAE)
REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)
TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)

ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)
BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)
CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)
VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA)

------------------------------

HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
PIPELINE BLACK (MD)
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)

FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)
SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)
VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)

Anonymous said...

ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)
LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)
NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)


CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)
RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)
RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)

-------------------------------
CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)
DMS SOCCER GU14 ACADEMY (NYW)
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)

ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)
KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)
PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)

CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)
CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)
EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)

FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)
WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)

Anonymous said...

Poetic justice to PDA Dragons

NPL Finals and your own club takes away your GS points so instead of being top 25 via GS and maybe get a better spot they are F4?? PDA Ajax the true #2 it doesn't matter what they do.


Of course these might still be preliminary

Anonymous said...

http://www.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.asp?EventID=46791&ShowAll=&Gender=Girls&AgeFilter=14&ApplyFiltersButton=Apply+Filters

Anonymous said...

12:11, this year is 2016. 2017 starts 8/1/16. Girls DA is slated to start 8/1/17 or the 2018 season.

Anonymous said...

1:55, where did you get that list?

Anonymous said...

Would be looking at a PDA vs FCV final. Wildcats would also get to avenge last loss to PL. East Meadow and Florida Elite both finish last. 1776 would be the team getting robbed of the F1 berth.

Anonymous said...

I criticized JeffCup last year for their first attempt at flights (e.g., putting a very poor Richmond United ECNL team in the top flight) but this first attempt looks very good.

Anonymous said...

CASL v PL final
Where did these flights come from?

Anonymous said...

Are u sure that 2017 for dap does not mean the 2017 season?

Anonymous said...

Are those brackets accurate or an opinion? If they are accurate I'm surprised with a couple that made top flight....

Anonymous said...

CASL would never get past PDA. If these flights hold true, it would be an excellent job by Jeff Cup official. All of the first three flights are well done.

Anonymous said...

Lol 2:30. You must be a PL parent. EM and FCV are both superior. Not even sure who Id put money on in the Cats vs PL game.

More like PDA/FCV final although EM has the ability to beat FCV.

Anonymous said...

2:31, soccer wire story said expected to start "Fall of 2017". So assuming that is right, they need a full year to get organized. Makes sense to me.

Anonymous said...

Mark my words 2:47 and also watch me win the Powerball today
PL parent wannabe

Anonymous said...

Ajax may actually win this one. No overwhelming favorite in that bracket.

Anonymous said...

I can’t believe someone spent the time to cut and paste those flights together, terrible job Grandma.

Anonymous said...

STA and Crush could play FIVE times in the spring

Anonymous said...

This blog should be separated by state
NJ you can you have your own since no one else exists

Anonymous said...

Going with Florida Elite in top flight

Dont think Ajax will final though they could earn points

Anonymous said...

Stop already, these are not the final brackets, NJ Grandma has been busy, no Bingo tonight Granny??

Anonymous said...

Florida Elite lost 2-0 to CASL and FCV at WAGS. No way they win that bracket, much less the flight. PL also has no chance. I'll agree with @2:28 except for the 1776 part. Bethesda would be my next choice for top flight.

Anonymous said...

What about the Florida Elite wins?

See the big picture

They had a GREAT fall season

Anonymous said...

Florida Elite has always been the bridesmaid and never the bride. They do get to the finals when the brackets are weak, but fold when facing tougher competition.

Anonymous said...

Are any of the teams they beat in the JeffCup top flight? And what are their big wins? beating the TopHat and CASL B teams? If all a team can brag about is beating PA Classics 2-1, then they should just be quiet.

Anonymous said...

Florida Elite (Creeks) is Region 3 Finalist, Florida State champ over recent state darling Jacksonville (beat em once, crushed em second time)

You cite their only 2 losses since June.

And leave out win vs TFA and best teams from Alabama, Mississipi and Tennessee

Anonymous said...

What is the highest ranked team they've beaten? by what score?

Beating up on 3rd and 4th flight teams doesn't mean you're ready to beat real top flight teams, especially when it was only a few months ago that you got your butt handed to you by two of the teams you'll be playing.

As to being the Region 3 finalist, so what? FC Frederick won Region 1 and they can't score a goal against top competition.

Anonymous said...

Aim higher 3:07

Anonymous said...

Not flight 4, PDA Dragons are in flight 8, Ajax in flight 3. there are 10 flights total all are 8 team brackets except flight 10.

Anonymous said...

Will do 5:00
I'll also play Megamillion

Anonymous said...

Question - I had heard (maybe on this blog) that there are no gotsoccer points coming for this spring's PDA tourney. Any truth to that? Appreciate any insight

Anonymous said...

551 Yup you are correct No GS points for Spring Kick Off U14 Invitational- Plus at age u15 it's a showcase umbrella under ECNL. So it doesn't matter anymore to many of those clubs chase points but matters a lot for those who want to be accepted at the older ages for showcasing.

Think about it at U15 a club applies to be in the showcase and gets denied why because the prior years you never joined because we didn't give out GS points. Reason why PDA is it's own island away from craziness of fulfilling GS rankings.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 4:37. The Creek team is a good team, but not good enough to get more than one win in that bracket. The win over TFA is a nice win, but TFA struggled playing against BRYC, PL and Fredrick in the fall.
I pick PAC to win their bracket, not allowing a goal along the way.

Anonymous said...

Albertson - again - much improved

Handles PA Classics, I'd say.

Anonymous said...

Hey - good one, Jeff Cup fake bracket guy.

NSA Twisters? Really?

I will let you all know when the brackets really come out

Anonymous said...

Even if these brackets are fake, they are better than the real ones Jeff puts out. It would be the best 1st and 2nd bracket in three years.

Anonymous said...

Eh needs tweeked a bit yet. Couple of teams need swapped to/from F1. When are the brackets announced on Twitter like usual? That's when you know they're real.

Anonymous said...

Not real brackets above. Next Friday at the NSCAA.

Anonymous said...

Only thing real are the accepted teams...84 of them
Website currently has 11 divisions allocated to the play. Of course that could change
http://events.gotsport.com/events/?eventid=46791

Anonymous said...

F1 wouldn't need to be adjusted, other than possibly PL or Wildcats dropping out of F1. Not much competition for them in F2 though.

Anonymous said...

Id agree with that.

Anonymous said...

Yea but both would have a very good chance of winning F2. Neither have any chance of winning F1.

Anonymous said...

And just to clarify what 8:20 has stated, he thinks that ______________ should not be in the 9th bracket, they should be in F1, just ask my wife...

1. They play a very European style of soccer, which looks cool anyway, wins are philosophical discussion.

2. They have the name _____________, which instantly gives them a 80/20 fouls against ratio, at games, tournaments, and inter-squad scrimmages.

3. We, I mean they, have 2 nice sets of kits, Orange and Light Sky Blue, I, I mean they, prefer the orange I think, just in case someone confuses them for ______________, which isn’t a bad thing, I guess.

4. Its a long way to go, and not win.

5. “Club” picks-up the costs, that would be a parent.

6. We have some hot Mom’s going on.

Anonymous said...

Keep it coming 9:05, you're very entertaining!

Anonymous said...

Jersey Shore and FC Copa get robbed again!
What are you thinking 7:46? PAC? For real?

Anonymous said...

7:37 I don't care if they are real or not gives us something to talk about because we know after the NSCAA no one will be talking Jefferson cup until we get tired of talking Girls DA.

So I'm going to have fun with it. NJ Wildcats should be replaced with World Class FC ECNL simple pro/rel. PL has owned the NJ Wildcats and I want them in to see how they do vs EM and FCV. I can even see Bethesda ECNL moving up to F1 to replace BRYC


Anonymous said...

using last year's jefferson Cup pts
CASL 01 ECNL (NC)
FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)
PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)
EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)
FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)
PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)
F2 32 points WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)
F2 23 points BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)
------------------------------
CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)
NSA TWISTERS (IL)
RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)
F1 9 pts NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
F1 6 pts BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
F1 5 pts CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
F2 23 pts 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
F2 22 pts PDA AJAX (NJ)
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ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)
CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)
F2 16 pts PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
F2 14 pts STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
F2 13 pts FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)
F2 13 pts PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
F2 13 pts NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
F2 10 pts MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)
F2 9 pts YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
F2 8 pts PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
F3 30 pts STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)
F3 28 pts DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)
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FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)
F2 5 pts CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)
F2 5 pts NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
F2 0 pts NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
F3 22 pts LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)
F3 21 pts MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)
F3 20 pts FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)
F3 20 pts OAKWOOD SC (CT)
------------------------------------
ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
F3 18 pts PIPELINE BLACK (MD)
F3 17 pts HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
F3 14 pts FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
F4 35 pts PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
F4 34 pts UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)
-----------------------------------
ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)
F3 12 pts HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
F3 11 pts RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
F3 10 pts BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
F4 27 pts PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)
F4 26 pts VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA)
F4 22 pts TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
F4 19 pts FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)
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TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)
SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED FC 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)
SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)
NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA)
F3 5 pts ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)
F3 1 pt CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)
F3 0 pts CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)
F4 14 pts GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)
------------------------------------
HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)
HFC READY '01 (PAE)
REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)
BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)
F4 2 pts CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)
F4 0 pts LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)
F4 o pts RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)
--------------------------------------
FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)
SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)
VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)
RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)
-----------------------------------
CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)
DMS SOCCER GU14 ACADEMY (NYW)
ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)
KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)
PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)
CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)

Anonymous said...

11:09 Owned??? Are you serious? Jokes aside they are two pretty even matched teams.

Replace BRYC out of those listed? No way. Not before at least 3 others.

Anonymous said...

While these flights may be preliminary, they're not "fake" as they're showing up on GotSoccer. There might be some tweaking of the teams but except for one major screw-up, this is a very good first attempt, much better than last year. The obvious mistake is NSA Twisters in the 2nd flight. I'm not sure how they even got accepted. How does a team that plays in the third level of the Region II league get into the 2nd flight? My next change would be in the third flight where Richmond ECNL is still a little too high but it's their tournament so it's their choice to have their team outclassed once again.

While I think PL will end up beating Wildcats, Wildcats have had the better Fall season so I have no problem with Wildcats in the top flight. World Class has only done ok this Fall - finalist in one tourney but 4th place in their ECNL division - so they have an argument to be in over PL, but it's a toss-up.

BRYC has played Bethesda twice, tying them one game and beating them the second time. BRYC also finished above Bethesda in both tournaments they played in together so BRYC gets the nod over Bethesda.

PAC vs. Albertson will determine winner of that bracket with my money on Albertson.

Anonymous said...

Albertson? You mean the Fury West from White Plains? I heard that they are better than the ECNL team : /

Anonymous said...

12:20 I will use my favorite compare on this board.

Ajax vs Dragons since NPL League play started
head 2 head 1-1-1, both teams won 1-0 and tied 0-0
Dragons won NPL flight @u13 Ajax finished 3rd.
Ajax leads NPL flight this year with Dragons in 3rd both in line for a post season spot. No difference between the two on any day either can win. However Jefferson prelim has Ajax F3 and Dragons F8. That's a huge difference, so either they are both good or they both stink.


Anonymous said...

There's no doubt that the Wildcats and PL could be replaced in F1 by better teams. Both are fairly solid teams but can't get past the top ones and won't again if they stay. In F2 they both have a good chance to win as someone earlier said.

I'd love to see an underdog win it though! The FCV championship wins (although always by a hair) are getting boring.

Anonymous said...

It is a toss up between PL, Wildcats and BRYC. I would go back and look up which team did better against the teams they might be facing. I do think at least one of the above mentioned teams moves down to F2.

Anonymous said...

12:16 Don't you have to beat a team at least once in order to say they are evenly matched?

Anonymous said...

Wildcats take F1

Anonymous said...

FC Copa move up to F4 and take that

Anonymous said...

BRYC doesn't belong in the conversation about teams potentially moving down. They beat CASL and PL head-to-head, and did better against common opponents than Florida Elite (beating CASL and tying FCV). If anyone moves down, and I don't think anyone will, PL is the first choice. I'm still waiting for a good argument for another team to move up to F1, other than PL and Wildcats don't have a chance to win it.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats just beat BRYC Elite in semi at Bethesda in top flight a month ago. They also beat Bethesda ECNL at same Bethesda tournament last month. Based on recent form then how can Wildcats be relegated to F2 for Bethesda ECNL to move up to F1 in their place?

Anonymous said...

Bethesda ECNL tied Albertsion ECNL and lost to Wildcats in 2 bracket games at Bethesda event.
BRYC Elite beat MatchFit ECNL and Cleveland FC in bracket games then lost to Wildcats in semifinals at Bethesda. Wildcats beat Bethesda ECNL, Albertson ECNL and BRYC Elite at Bethesda Tournament.

Anonymous said...

2:10 below is how your ECNL teams shape up.

2.78 FC Virginia ECNL U14
2.20 East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14
2.11 CASL ECNL U14
2.00 Bethesda SC ECNL U14
1.82 PDA ECNL U14

1.73 Maryland United FC ECNL U14
1.64 Albertson Fury ECNL U14
1.42 Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U14
1.33 Atlanta Fire ECNL U14
1.13 Connecticut FC ECNL U14
0.80 Richmond United ECNL U14
0.73 World Class FC ECNL U14
0.22 McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U14
0.00 Continental FC Delco ECNL U14

Anonymous said...

ECNL blah blah blah
Go Averbuch

Anonymous said...

vs jefferson cup teams

PL
0:2 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)

6:0 PIPELINE BLACK (MD)
6:0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
5:0 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
3:0 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
3;2 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
2:0 HFC READY '01 (PAE)
2;1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
1:0 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)

BRYC
1:2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
0:1 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)

0:0 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
0:0 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)
0:0 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)

3:1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
2:0 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
2:0 MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U14ECNL (VA)
1:0 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)
1:0 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC)


NJ WildcatsNPL
1:2 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)

6:0 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)
6:1 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
5:0 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
4:1 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)
3:0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
3:2 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)
3;2 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)
2:1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)
2:0 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
2:0 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
1:0 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)


FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE
0:2 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)
0:2 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC)

4:0 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
2:1 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
1:0 CAPITAL AREA SOCCER 01 LADIES RED (NC)


NOT bad - okay I'm sold

PL
BRYC
NJW NPL

join

FCV
EM
CASL
PDA
Bethesda

FL Elite down to F2

Anonymous said...

Certainly makes sense to try to reward the teams that had impressive fall campaigns. Since there are a few Connecticut teams mixed in with the Jeff Cup brackets I will simply mention that most if not all of them now have added multiple kids back into their rosters that were ineligible to play during high school season. For the most part it was all 2002's playing in the fall and now the 2001s are back on the rosters. How that shakes out may be a little team specific but I anticipate CFC (Connecticut) United probably will be the most improved by the returning players although Oakwood also upgraded at a few spots and even the non-impact players can provide some depth in a weekend tournament setting.

Anonymous said...

PL vs Wildcats

2-1
4-2
2-2
1-1

No major domination by PL. Previous poster mentioned that Cats just completed a better looking season and I'd agree. So PL first to move down. Bethesda ECNL up. BRYC took FCV to PK's at Wags. Beat PL 2-0. BRYC deserve to remain in F1.

Anonymous said...

All the listed results for PL vs Wildcats were prior to current U14 year except 2-1 PL win at preseason Spirit Tourney in August.
While all U14 results should be considered(and only U14 results, not U12 or U13)hard to argue preseason 1 goal win 6 months ago trumps recent season ending results at premier event like Bethesda Touurney in F1.
Teams current form and any demonstrated improvement over course of U14 year thus far should trump all.

Anonymous said...

Tournament directors put absolutely no weight on results from previous years.
Only results from current year are considered.
All these teams rosters undergo changes each year, often major changes.

Anonymous said...

No better example of above than PL, whcih lost 3 impact players to Penn Fusion ECNL between U13 and current U14 year.

Anonymous said...

I think they should set up a scrimmage prior to Jeff Cup to determine where they should be in what flight? Wildcard game. I know that would certainly help us out.

*Jeff Cup Rep.

Anonymous said...

3:33 (or Wildcat coach) You are right, PL had a horrible fall season. They barely won their fall league with a paltry plus 26 goal differential (if only they hadn't allowed those two goals). Those goals against is why I would leave PL in the first bracket. They never just start giving up bad goals, something the Cats have been guilty of when things go downhill. Even when PL is not playing well, they have a habit of keeping the game close and giving themselves a chance. Good teams don't lose by 3 goals or more in tournaments, unless your playing Cincy (Then you have an excuse). Its why 1776 should never be a F1 team, they just give up after being down 2 goals. Enough talk about those two, the big question is whether East Meadow would win that bracket? I think BRYC was a one trick pony at WAGS and they'll return to the team they showed at Bethesda.

Anonymous said...

So BRYC won the top local tournament in their area with three ECNL teams in the field, took FCV to PKs in the WAGS final, were only a missed pk from being in the finals at Bethesda, and lost in the semi-finals at Spirit to the 2nd ranked team in the country and you call them a one trick pony.

Please tell us what team you're with and how they had a better fall season.

Anonymous said...

4:10 Yea they won their EDP division. By beating what top teams???? None!

Anonymous said...

Surprised Boston, NEFC, SS, PF ECNL, and MF ECNL not on the attendance list.

Anonymous said...

Who's the NFL defending champion 3:53? So what does Spirit and FC Stars use to set their flights? you talk like 25% of a team's roster changes from year to year? if that's true for your team your program is horrible because the assumption is you are losing players. is that message that is sent? 75% of a good team is not really good they were just carried by the 25% that left.

That's just away to wipe away bad results. I wish our kids can say their freshman year grades shouldn't count on their transcript if they had a bad year.

Anonymous said...

I actually think PL is still strong than PF-ECNL that's why PF was scared to come down to Jeff Cup! LOL

Anonymous said...

The focus for BB, PF, and MF is San Diego.

Anonymous said...

PL lost impact players?

Anonymous said...

Great. You got the PL parents worked up people. Here we go...

PL you're a good team, you deserve to be in F1, you will win F1. Feel better?

Anonymous said...

4:23 From FC Uranus. Does anyone on here every say what team they are from? BRYC couldn't even get to the finals in a watered down tournament at Bethesda. The fact that the Wildcats made the finals tells you all you need to know (where they of course lost badly). All I was saying was that it would be better to keep a team F1, if they showed that they can hang with FCV and similar top teams. If not, you become the team that ends up with the ugly minus 5 goal differential.

Anonymous said...

The big question is can we actually have a Jeff Cup weekend without any rain?

Anonymous said...

Impact Players Please! If they were Impact Players they wouldn't be look and chasing the other ECNL teams above them in there league. Again a Impact players puts a team on whole other level. To me PF is just above average.

Anonymous said...

Oh hey again PL parent!

Anonymous said...

I hope they do stay F1. See how much we hear from them after playing a few of the top teams in the country at Jeff Cup, because they certainly didn't face any in EDP and then there is Spirit and Wags where they couldn't even make the semi finals... This may be the tournament that takes them out of future F1 contention.

Anonymous said...

5:45

So what you are saying is if they were "impact players" they probably wouldn't be spending 90% of the game watching from the bench of an average team?

Anonymous said...

Ignorance;

The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

Synonym: stupidity

Anonymous said...

6:42

PL "failed" to make the quarterfinals at Spirit and WAGS for the same reason Storm and MF ECNL failed to make the quarters at FC Stars and Bethesda, they had a better team in their pool. At Stars Storm lost by 1 goal to BB, same as PL did at Spirit, and at Bethesda MF lost by 2 goals to BRYC, same as PL did at WAGS. 2 losses this fall to 2 excellent teams and it's a failure eh? BTW, what team does your daughter play for?

Anonymous said...

Denial;

a psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead

Anonymous said...

Gotta love the "adults" that bully/attack children on this blog. Says a lot about you.

Anonymous said...

6:42 I agree this could be the last chance for the PL girls to show well. Unfortunately, with all this change coming from the BYC and the possibility of a DA program being instituted as early as 2017. This years Jeff Cup and the tournaments following will only serve as bragging rights, and even that will be short lived. My hope is that both the Wildcats and PL end up in the same bracket, both our games last year were physical, tough and well played games.
Don't think the Penn Fusion comment was a PL parent, we know many of their players from playing indoor tournaments together and they are exceptional.
PL Parent

Anonymous said...

You consider that bullying and attacking? Wow, I hope your kid has thicker skin than you do Mom.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment about impact players. There good, great players but an impact this age is most likely a goalie that prevents 0 GA on 10-15 shots on goal or and forward or attacking mid that scores on average. Those to me are impact players thay help a team to the next level. 90% Playing time does not justify an impact player.

Either I hope Jeff Cup places these great NJ/PA teams in the right bracket because I'd rather see good close games v blowouts.

I think the next big tourney we need to consider is PDA's spring invitational. Which I bet we some very strong teams from New England area like NEFC, SS, Boston.

Anonymous said...

So if my kid is an outside back she's not impact? I would've maybe said if your kid is a regular at an NTC, that's an example of an impact player. Guess I'm wrong. Bummer.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure you kid is an impact player at outside back and at any position she plays. An you are an impact parent without a doubt. You impact those parents around you by driving them as far away from you as possible. Sort of like a snake in the high grass.

Anonymous said...

Angry blogger alert.

Anonymous said...

http://www.soccerwire.com/blog-posts/u-s-soccer-will-have-to-get-girls-development-academy-perfect-in-order-to-improve-on-ecnl/

Anonymous said...

In a few months most teams will be completely different! Worry about your kids training and development. That's all that really matters with the BYC. Lots to talk about in a couple of months!

Anonymous said...

Its what makes this blog so great! The parental emotion of a helicopter parent going over the edge (not to be confused with Crush Copter parent, he's worse). The Wildcat's coach trying to defend his teams honor. The raw stats put out by GS 4 Life and Soccer Nut's acknowledgment of how great PDA is. The vile spewing back and forth between clubs parents and everyone's love of hot moms(go Boca). The Spell Check Nazi and Mr. Creepy (might be the same person). PL's frigging annoying parents (including PL Parent) and crazed 1776 mom. Then throw in PF's overprotective parent (sounds like a mommy protecting her cub).
What a combination of Elitist, Snakes, Whiners, emotional crybabies and cynical jackasses that constitutes the makeup of the blog. I enjoy reading this thing. Thank goodness the administrator has a sense of humor.

Anonymous said...

Where else can cowards hide behind their words? Pretty much anyone who frequents this blog needs to get a life, including myself, although thankfully I find myself on here less and less as time goes on.

Anonymous said...

Interesting article. Author is on the board of an ECNL club. I think it would have been stronger if she had acknowledged some of the problems with the ECNL rather than avoiding them. Agree that the lack of information available about this DA does not inspire confidence, particularly after the information released about the age change guidelines was so poorly managed.

Anonymous said...

Hopefully more info to come regarding DA at the NSCAA next week.

Anonymous said...

I actually agree with PL Parent, all the spring season is for is bragging rights. A lot of these teams will change next year due to the BYC . Most of us know what our club is going to do next year. I think that smaller clubs might keep teams together as much as they can. I think larger clubs will adhere by the law.

Is this blog going to go to a U15 or U16 board next year? Either way that will probably lose half of us.

Anonymous said...

I think they should create a 15.5 board, keeps things confusing...

BTW Our club has not advised on BYC rosters for next fall, but they should by tryouts time, no?

Anonymous said...

11:05pm
"It's" what makes...
"Wildcats' coach"..."team's honor"
"club parents"

Spell Check Nazi

Anonymous said...

At our club we were told information will be coming parents way later this month although I agree with above. Larger clubs (ECNL) will adhere to the changes and divide.

Anonymous said...

Not adhering to the BYC and trying to keep a team together would hurt the '02 players.
If a top '02 girl plays up with '01 but ends up on the bench a lot of the time, she's better off on the '02 team
Of course, the size of the club and rosters are important...
I think most teams are close to 50/50 '01/'02 and it all works out in the long run.
PL Parent...how many of each on your team?
Wildcat coach, how many on your team?

Anonymous said...

I forgot to ask 1776 Mom and Spell Check Nazi how many of each?

Anonymous said...

I have heard from a parent on at a large clubs, ECNL , will adhere to the rule.

I heard from a parent on at a medium size clubs will adhere to rule some what. There will be more exceptions at these clubs then the ECNL clubs.

I heard from a parent on at a small club, 1 to 2 teams per age group, that they will try not to change teams from u15 and up.

This could really hurt the small clubs if they must adhere to the rule. I was told there has to be a % of girls on the team with the correct Birth year. I never knew that.

Anonymous said...

Unofficial leak...
LVU/YMS to create partnership
U16 (2016-17 season)
Tryout 1- 3/20
Tryout 2- 3/27
Tryout 3- 4/3 by invitation only

Preparing for girls' DA?

Anonymous said...

Field time is far more important than playing up if they're sitting the bench more. A top '02 is better off playing age unless she's GNT worthy. In that case field time certainly won't be an issue. Can't be scouted from the bench.

Anonymous said...

That certainly is a DA coming. Same with PAC. I expect something there is brewing.

Anonymous said...

Okay, let’s just vote, for an 02 would it be more beneficial to get?

A. 60% of game minutes on a u16 team

or

B. 100% of game minutes on a u15 team

I will be first in this historic YST vote 2016, A.

Disclaimer: Since no one can predict the future, lets say that both will be very competitive.

Anonymous said...

8:48, PAC already has boys' DA
Are they partnering with someone?

Anonymous said...

Pennsylvania Youth Soccer Talk
-------------------This way out>>

Anonymous said...

New Jersey Youth Soccer Talk
Kiss my big hairy------

Anonymous said...

"Can't be scouted from the bench". So true, but many are still banking on it.

Anonymous said...

8:54 A of course

When evaluating your players, it is important that you don’t confuse your players’ biological age with their ‘soccer age.’ Each player’s “soccer age” is unique to the individual.

Anonymous said...

9:02, at least try to be original, stating the obvious is not much of a surprise.

Anonymous said...

http://www.pennfusion.org/home/903789.html

Is this :
1) PF attempting to obtain DA status
2) PF knowing they will miss out on DA status
3) nothing to do with DA

Anonymous said...

8:54 I would vote B, but ask to train with U16s

Anonymous said...

Why don’t you Penn guys just get together at a truck stop off of Rt 80, and exchange email info.

Why are you laughing....

Anonymous said...

B. More time on the field. Ask any recruiter.

Anonymous said...

A. She will not improve by playing against equal, or mostly lesser opponents.

Anonymous said...

9:08-Wildcat coach
Sunday-Thursday is NJ talk/whining/bs
Friday-Saturday is PA talk/clarity/wisdom

Anonymous said...

If it was obvious why so many still on teams where they are often sitting out events and most of games on bench when they do dress?

Anonymous said...

9:14
Rehearsing D1 career?
Obviously poor team placement

Anonymous said...

With ECNL defiantly B. There's plenty of challenge there on age. Being on the field is #1.

Anonymous said...

9:06
I sent Tino an email
Will see what he replies
Need tryout dates

Anonymous said...

PAC has in the past fielded PAC-West teams on both the boys and girls side in order to more easily bridge the Susquehanna River. So, it would not be a surprise if PAC partnered with a club on the west side of the River, which would also open better access to the Baltimore and DC Metro areas. It's an easy drive to Pipeline or FC Frederick from York or Harrisburg.

Anonymous said...

Tino will have to do
What is best for Tino himself
And U.S. Soccer image

Anonymous said...

9:52 and sorry NJ peeps
Who's on the west side of the river?

Anonymous said...

If the team is staying together why would a current -02 player playing up to U16 next year "end up on the bench".

I think most clubs reorganize and there wont be much playing up, but the '02s is where it might actually make sense to start doing so (first year HS)

I wonder if some teams use a hybrid system, take just some of the '02s up, with parental consent.

EX: Current U14 with 6 '01s.

Those '01s go to U16 next fall

Of the 11-12 '02s, 4 otr 5 also go. So we are at 10-11 players. The remainder of the team comes from current U15s who dont want to/are not capable of playing to U17.

Anonymous said...

10:13
An existing '02 player on U14 may be a top player now. U16 then will have "young" existing 01s, U14 now along with the older 01s, existing U15. This is how the benching occurs...young 01s and old '02s, wanting to play up, have to prove themselves against the older girls
make sense?

Anonymous said...

I think people forget that it's not about BYC anymore this coming fall it's more about Grad year. The BYC is more attainable for National Recognition as a parent you want to have your child play with the majority of a group that is graduating the same year. Does that make sense?

Anonymous said...

No it doesn't make sense

Anonymous said...

No, 10:19

Not if the club is keeping the U14 team intact

It will only have younger '01s

That is why I gave the second scenario, where only the BETTER '01s, those who WOULD get the playing time regardless, advance and mix in with - from your example - the younger '01s who had been playing U15

Its a very interesting dileemma/discussion for all clubs. Our club has thus far been noncommittal - and by doing so may force some into attending multiple tryouts

Anonymous said...

sorry - OLDER '01s who had been playing U15....

Anonymous said...

11:19
If team stays intact, that could be high % of girls playing up. Most teams I've seen are 50/50. I can't imagine that would be allowed. I can see 3-4 girls out of 18 playing up...

Anonymous said...

Lets make sure to remember the clubs are going to do what's best for the clubs financial pockets. A few of the non-profits like PL simply won't care whether their teams are competitive or not, as long as they field teams. But many will try to put the best product on the field, if that means bringing up an playing 02's over 01's, so be it. Those players running around on the field look like girls to us, to the club they are three thousand dollar bills running around.

Anonymous said...

$3000??? Crazy - what club is that?

Anonymous said...

9:08 is not wildcats cioach- He is funny though.

Anonymous said...

12:06
PF +
Must be PL hater, Wildcats coach...

Anonymous said...

OMG what are tournaments going to do with BYC they will all be new teams who's D1 now?

Anonymous said...

12:32
Clean slate...rendering GS points obsolete...as they should be

Anonymous said...

Boston Breakers affiliation with NEFC has nothing to do with Boston Breakers ECNL now FC Boston Scorpions. Check ECNL site name was changed, NEFC is just affiliated with Professional club and Professional did not renew contract with Scorpions club.

This will not affect ECNL clubs, these clubs will have not ties to each other.

Anonymous said...

10:10 - To answer your question: Top five PAE clubs west of the Susquehanna River and south of Blue Mountain (to intentionally exclude North Union) based on composite GS rankings between U12 and U17:

HMMS - Cumberland County
FC York - York County
Keystone FC - Cumberland County
South Central - Adams County
Panthers United - York County

PF, PL, PAC, CFC DELCO, and others including the Dauphin County clubs all currently pull in players from across the Susquehanna.

Anonymous said...

If PF is $3K what's the tuition for a team like PAC?

Anonymous said...

At PAC its $2000 + 1 average cow, or 2 large sheep....

Anonymous said...

Only $1K more is worth it for top training and showcase opportunities ECNL gives a player.

Anonymous said...

12;38 So how would you pick your Jefferson flight if this was the 1st event after BYC??

Anonymous said...

How could one answer that until we see player movement after tryouts?

Anonymous said...

1:32 - But you can continue to milk the cow and you can shear the sheep to make the kits, but I bet they would be rather hot during the summer months. Now, if the cow were actually a bull, the club would have a supply of BS to pass around.

Anonymous said...

How is any tournament going to know the player movement on every team in the country?

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