Tuesday, January 27, 2015

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

PRE -ecnl.

Anonymous said...

I stand corrected. so where are the results or standings for the PRE ecnl league for Fall

Anonymous said...

Sorry, not trying to be a smart ass, just pointing out this is actually an NPL league made up of teams that will be in the ecnl NEXT YEAR, and it doesn't hold the importance of a REAL ecnl league, well not to most!

Try this:

http://nplnortheastgirls.demosphere.com/schedules/2014-15/71265040.html

Anonymous said...

It has its weaker teams but please list ONE other league that is deeper and more difficult??????

Anonymous said...

Top teams in this age group play in the ecnl. Storm undefeated. Boom Boom!

Anonymous said...

When u move to the real ECNL next yr(if it still exists) these teams will be split in half. PDA will be with Matchfit and the 3 PA teams right? Compared to that, I will take Reg 1 Red Division anyday.

And you might want to wait till you actually win the thing to flap your mouth, you're only halfway(plus a playoff!!!) as of now.

Anonymous said...

@135.....You mean there are teams out there that play 5-6 defenders who just kick it far away? & there are teams that play for ties & in one case even count ties as successes? & there are teams obsessed with the top 2 clubs in NJ & come on here trying to stir the pot all the time? & there are teams that love to promote themselves after wins with coaches giving an entire game analysis but then describe losses as "meaningless"? & there are teams that play the same formation all the time no matter what circumstances are & have one dimensional players who play the same position game after game after game? & there are teams that never switch the field from the back nor use their goalie to accomplish this rare cosmetic feat in a soccer game?

Sorry, I'm not buying it. LOL

Anonymous said...

Obsessed much?!

Anonymous said...

Very few teams go undefeated in a season . Can you tell me another team other then PDA in any league in our area of Ct., Ny., Nj. Great job PDA keep up the development.



Anonymous said...

2:26 so bigger is better? First Why do you assume I'm with PDA?

One game a week? Come on man do your homework first.

PS. What good is it for Sachem Speed to be outside the bubble. They are the NYE NCS champs that advanced to the region1 Tournament and won it - and their reward was RCL D2 while a PAGS D2 team is RCL D1 - so I guess there is more than one bubble in Youth Soccer. The ECNL bubble that everyone sees and the invisible bubble of USYSA and Region1.

Anonymous said...

It seems wildcats may be a little jealous of PDA.

Anonymous said...

Disagree 4:43, not a little more like A LOT!

Anonymous said...

STA toruney cancelled

Anonymous said...

1:53 your so right, using guest players.

Anonymous said...

@3:42pm - In girls NE NPL both PDA north and Matchfit NPL are both undefeated for the fall, each have ties.

Anonymous said...

Yeah you're right. You can also find some undefeated teams in mosa and Morris county leagues. However we are talking about the tougher leagues.

Anonymous said...

4:43 Wildcats very much respect PDA and all the top teams in NJ. PDA and Matchfit have earned the right to play in ECNL. Best of luck in your soccer future

Anonymous said...

5:17 Good Point.

MF NPL and PDA Dragons area the subject of many jokes on this board. But as you pointed out they both went undefeated and as 3:42 not an easy task to do in a regional league

But so did the NJ Wildcats & NEFC let's not forget them either

Anonymous said...


F1
MA South Shore Select U13 Elite
MA NEFC SC United U13G
OH Crew juniors Elite
NY East Meadow Hotshotz
VA FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01
NJ Match Fit Pre ECNL
GA Tophat 20 Gold
GA UFA 02 Premier

F2
MA FC Bolts GU13-Green
NJ Match Fit NE NPL U13G
NY New York Soccer Club Girls 2001
NJ PDA Ajax
NJ PDA Dragons
NJ TSF Academy 01/02G
FL Weston FC U13
NY World Class FC '01

F3
NJ Academy Avalanche (2014 F4 Champ)
NY Albertson West
PA Beadling U13 Girls Red
NJ Match Fit Black
MA NEFC GU13 Central United
PA PA Crew Blue
NJ PDA Shore Fusion
PA Victory Express SC Premier GU13

F4
NY Alleycats Neko
NY Capital United U13 Blue Force
CT CFC U13 Girls Arsenal Orange
NJ Comets U13G
NJ FC Copa Academy Lima
NJ Jersey Premier Soccer Flash
PA LVU 01 Gold Girls
NJ NJ Crush FC Tsunami White

Anonymous said...

I'm 6:12 that's my best guess at PDA's flights. Really had a tough time with WC wanted to put them as F1 but this year's Fall league results stopped me.

Anonymous said...

Looks good to me.

Anonymous said...

6:12, good guess, you work there?

I would move one team to F1 from F2, but other than that, its solid. I also think that team might be moved up if they win Jeff Cup, so let’s see how it goes.

Anonymous said...

No, I wish I was involved with soccer. Just a parent that loves the sport and has a girl that's pretty good so I like to research youth soccer (I won many fantasy baseball, basketball and football title).

I looked at last year's tournament and based on this year's results tried my best. I know it's all for nothing - but it's fun for me.

PS. As I'm typing this and watching u17 concacaf mexico vs st.lucia (mexico just scored 2-0) so I really do love the sport.

Anonymous said...

UFA Georgia down, World Class up

Anonymous said...

7:22 i flipped flopped them about ten times and also looked at the PDA teams and wondered if they would place one of them. I think the 6-2 drumming of South Shore at Disney and being a finalist after dropping 1-0 to FCV is nothing to sneeze at, that's why I went with UFA

PS. 3-0 Mexico

Anonymous said...

Answer me this...

Homemade Cupcakes from a box with frosting from a can are absolutely delicious!

Why do cupcakes from bakeries suck?

Anonymous said...

I tried my best guess at FC Delco, big pool of teams made it a little more difficult. PF and PL is tough for me.

F1
Boston Breakers Academy GU13 ECNL
Braddock Road YC 01 Elite
CFC West Orange
Crew Juniors Elite
FC Virginia Pre-ECNL 01
NEFC Elite U13 Girls
Penn Fusion SA '01G Pre-ECNL
Tri-State FA Elite 01

F2
Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNL
Greater Binghamton United FC 01 Select
Maryland United FC 01 ECNL
NJ Crush FC Tsunami
New York SC G01
Penn Legacy FC 01 Black
Players Development Academy Ajax
World Class FC '01 Charlton

F3
Bethesda SC Academy 2001 Blue
CFC Arsenal Sky
Continental FC Delco Pre-ECNL '01
HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT
ISA 01 NPL
NJCSA GALAXY
PA Classics Academy 01
Seacoast United Elite - DR- 01/02

F4
Beach FC 01G Red
Beadling SC White
Harford FC United Thunder
Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies
PA Crew Academy Blue
Pipeline Soccer Club Black
Waza FC East 02 Juniors
Wyoming Valley SC '01 Girls

Anonymous said...

pretty good list. who is Braddock Road? Where do they hail from?

Anonymous said...

PA Classics would win F3 if that's how they were placed. They probably wouldn't win F2, but they would compete with all those teams (maybe 1-1-1).

Anonymous said...

that's a great question 8:26! And the bakery cupcakes cost so much more and the product is not near as good. What a minute, we are talking food here and not girls soccer? BTTW, the new twinkies suck too.

Anonymous said...

9:52

aka BRYC

Anonymous said...

thanks 10:21. I really feel kind of stupid now. Played them a couple times and only knew them by their initials. That being said, thought they were a good solid team, but not a great team.

Anonymous said...

Nj this Nj that. We are the best. This team is dodging all the top teams. Look at Nj soccer when they play outside of Nj. Pretty poor record. Nj keep beating each other up as everyone else gets better and laughs when they see a supposed top team from Nj with no skill , just kicking the ball as hard and as far as they can. Maybe someone will run onto that long kick.

Anonymous said...

What team has "won" out of New Jersey?

Anonymous said...

11:12 like that stoppage time goal last night that sent Montreal to the Semi-Finals past Pachuca from Mexico.

If you didn't see it it was awesome to see MLS fans going crazy 30k+ to watch a CCL game. I screamed with a huge fist pump

Anonymous said...

Last i checked, all those top pre ecnl that reside outside ofNJ were beaten by a NJ team called the PDA Storm.

Theses teams were from NY, CT , Massachussets, PA. etc, etc.

Anonymous said...

Our DOC came over to a group of teams, and asked the group if any girls were planning on playing LAX this spring. If so, they can plan on only playing LAX this spring, hahah.

Sorry, but I love that!

Anonymous said...

me too that is great.

Anonymous said...

Winning a handful of meaningless league games will be the highlight of your season, sad.

Anonymous said...

Spoken like someone who's kid plays in weak league.

Anonymous said...

Well it doesn't have powerhouses like FC Bucks and Continental in it, but it was fun watching them win it all the same!

Anonymous said...

Who said anything about ecnl? You assuming ecnl is the best. Or your reading this blog too much. How does Storm do in tournaments outside Nj

Anonymous said...

Funny that they are both from PA, I guess that's what PA has to offer. How about the other 9 games or should I say 18 games against EM, MF, WC, PF, CFC, FSA, Boston, Stars & Albertson?

You really think your kid's team would have the same type of luck? If you are from PA and it sounds like you are, PF didn't do so hot - middle of the pack but of course you think PAGS is equal.

or are you from MD/VA and play in EDP or CCL? Either one doesn't even come close to NorthEast NPl Pre-ECNL flight

Anonymous said...

I think US CLub Should send the below to the National Cup National Cup.

They have the best chance of unifying youth soccer.

ECNL Champion
NPL Champion
West Regional Champion
Northwest Regional Champion
Midwest Regional Champion
NEP New England Regional Champion
Mid-Atlantic Regional Champion
Southeast Regional Champion

Anonymous said...

All these parents are classic. They bash and bash. Their kids can't make a ecnl program like pda so they hide behind the "my team is better than your team " rhetoric.

I don't care who your kid plays for. Or how good your team is. Your kid probably can't make one of these programs. So you hide behind the nonsense of nj soccer teams are not as good. Blah Blah blah. My team may or may not be as good as your team but my kid can take your daughters spot any time any day. And that my friend is more important than team envy.

Anonymous said...

So PL can play in the US Club PA cup and if they win they go to the Mid-Atlantic Regional. if they win there they will go to National Cup and play ECNL champ and probably ECNL/NPL teams and Regionals.

NJ Wildcats can win their NPL and then win NPL finals to go directly to national Cup or they can win NJ cup and beat PL at Mid-Atlantic Regional to go to National Cup.

Us Club is so close to doing what all these posters want.

Anonymous said...

PDA just posted their list of 2015College Commitments. Pretty impressive.

Anonymous said...

So what is the all mighty storms record in tournaments outside of nj?

Anonymous said...

Or the all mighty MF ecnl or npl

Anonymous said...

2:38

Same as they do inside NJ, they NEVER won one.

Anonymous said...

2:40

No, the best that PA has to offer plays in the Reg 1 league. Of coarse the best that NJ has to offer does as well!

And tell me, next year when it's a REAL ECNL league who in it with you? It's PDA, MF, PF, FC Bucks, and Continental in the "metro" right?

Compare that to NJ Wildcats, Greater Bing, Legacy, and probably Sachem(remember them?) and YMS in Reg 1.

And all those other teams you mention are in the other ECNL division up north. Now who's in a third rate league? Oh coarse that's if the ECNL still exists, I have my doubts.

Anonymous said...

I dont understand why everyone is so worried about playing PDA or any ECNL team. Just play who you are put on the field against. ECNL teams for the most part play each other. Some play in 3 or 4 tourneys a year but for most part play each other only. They even setup friendlies against each other. It is just the way it is. Call them what you want elitist, scared or whatever. Nothing is going to change from anything said on this blog. If you think your daughter can play on an ECNL team take her to try outs.

Anonymous said...

"And tell me, next year when it's a REAL ECNL league who in it with you? It's PDA, MF, PF, FC Bucks, and Continental in the "metro" right?"

Yes and World Class but still play MA, CT and the LI teams. You did you research but not enough.

Are you kidding me with the Reg 1 being better?

Anonymous said...

Exactly....

PDA has pu themselves inside their tiny ECNL bubble, so n reason to discuss them

At least Match Fit. World, East Meadow go to non ECNL events and are open to friendlies. Really the more desired destinations for anyone thinking of leaving their NJ club.

The top non ECNLs will keep most of their kids though - in this division

Anonymous said...

Look at the 2015 College commitments. That is impressive.

Anonymous said...

2:54

Such blind foolishness, or just arrogance maybe. Not only could your kid not take mines spot, half my daughters team could join any ECNL team . You think all talent is confined to a few ECNL clubs. You've heard of Morgan Brian right?

Anonymous said...

3:45

You are such a Donkey. So who are you saying is the next Morga Brian? Your Daughter or is the whole team made of young Morgan Brian's?

Anonymous said...

3:35

So still 1 game against each oponent right? Where as the region 1 teams I mentioned play each other twice. Nope, not kidding, Reg 1 will absolutely be the better league.

Anonymous said...

3:49

A donkey? Wow that just hurt. Who knows watching a bunch of 13 year olds who will make it to that level. But to just assume she will come from an ECNL club shows your blindness.

Anonymous said...

Region 1 screwed Sachem Speed.

NYE NCS Champ and region 1 Champ in RCL D2.


Why is the DE NCS Champ in RCL D1 when they are a PAGS D2 team?

What does that say about the Region 1 selection committee?

Anonymous said...

Says they gave too much weight to state cup champs esp from weak states. Relegation next yr will sort it out. Sachem & YMS move up, maybe Calvert joins in.

Anonymous said...

3:58

if your daughter could make an ECNL club you wouldn't be on here bashing them. you would just be saying 'to each there own"

but continued bashing shows your insecurity in spades.

remember its just soccer.


Anonymous said...

You people are too funny. Again, you do not need to like it but you are out of your mind if you do not think ECNL is by far and away the best league to be in. People, just look at history. It is not even close. And look at the FULL team college commitments. Impressive. Again, you may not like it and want to bash, but it has worked pretty damn well. Region 1 will not even be close as these girls move forward and get older. That is just reality... So no need to bash as you really do not have any stats to prove otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Not bashing, actually think the ECNL was a great concept. Just trying to make you aware there is great soccer being played outside of your bubble, and it's producing some of the best players in the country.

Tell me this, do you really think the top 8 players from YMS couldn't walk into FC Bucks tryout and replace half their squad? 1776 and Continental, same thing. Think if the top of PL went to PF they wouldn't make it? Calvert and the MD ECNL teams. Sachem/Athletico the LI squads? I'd bet PDA and MF would take The top Wildcat players in a heartbeat. You're the one who said our kids couldn't make your precious ECNL team but you sound like a fool(unless you know who our kids are, in which case you would sound like even more of a fool). Of coarse you said your D could take mines place anyday. How would you possibly know that. I'm sure your kid could make our team but I've seen plenty of ECNL girls who couldn't. The arrogance you display is what turns many off from the ECNL BTW.

Anonymous said...

You should worry more about showcasing your daughter than how good your team happens to be.

I believe that was the context of the message.

And no I don't know who your daughter is and i am sure she is a good enough player maybe has been ID and has been playing up like my daughter but i doubt because those girls who have the goods, parents are more concerned about the next step for their daughter rather than how many tournament wins a team has outside the State of NJ.


Anonymous said...

Not arrogance..... Proven track record. How many people every year at U13 think the same thing you do as their team and new league and what always happens?? ECNL prevails as the top league. I do not believe that more than 1-2 players on any of the non ECNL jersey teams would make the current teams. PA is more even. It is just that ultimately, the ECNL is the league to be in and will have by far and away the best talent. Again, this is proven year in and year out..... And ZERO wrong with staying with current team. Just not right for you to come on here saying it is not the best league. Sorry, but it is!

Anonymous said...

Sachem has a history of playing down.

My guess is they dont mind

Anonymous said...

Gold, 4:43

Right on the mark

Anonymous said...

ecnl has only been around a few years.
You act like it has been around for a long time.
Just not true and youth soccer has always been fluid.
Just the latest craze.
I guess this is your first experience with youth soccer so you assume it has always been the same, but that is not so.

Anonymous said...

the comment by 4:52 might win the award for most idiotic comment on this blog. So you are saying the bottom six on your ECNL teams are equal or better than the top six on other NJ and PA teams, and that coaches wouldn't take them if they tried out? I'm not going to say anymore. Except try to think about how stupid that statement is.

Anonymous said...

Kinda says it all:

"PDA is proud to announce the graduating class of 2015 and their college commitments.
PDA is honored to be recognized by Top Drawer Soccer after being awarded the 'IMG recruiting title for 2015'. This is an award presented to the club that has the most recruits placed in DI programs from the IMG top 150 players. PDA is privileged to receive this award and will continue to provide the platform for our players to develop and progress to the college ranks."

Anonymous said...

Girls from PDAs ECNL and NPL teams.

Anonymous said...

MFA had 24 of 25 Kids on the U18 team get D1 scholies, and they went to great schools, Stanford, UNC (2), Virginia, Maryland, BC, Gtown,......

Anonymous said...

Also a good program. Just not as good as PDA.

Anonymous said...

8:32

Just looked it up, very impressive. I sort of doubt they all got $ though, at least not for soccer. Academics maybe, but hey if I'm wrong let me know I will be even more impressed.

Also if you and 9:00 are going to get in a pissing contest over which club is better, start listing Nat team players. I am curious.

And don't worry, we all know MF wins in the class category.

Anonymous said...

9:19pm

MF 12 girls received FULL Rides
MF 8 Rcvd 3/4 Rides, Academics for remainder
MF 5 1/2 and 1/2.

Anonymous said...

6;20

Yes the bottom 6 on my team would take the starting spots from the kids on your team.

Hard to hear I know- but no matter what you say, i know its true.

don't hate -appreciate!

Anonymous said...

And when they arrive at those top programs they will find that half their new teammates( all of whom are just as talented as they are) came from non ECNL clubs, and no one will care. A larger majority will have played OPD by the way. Really guys, get over yourselves. Truth is a year from now the ECNL will be history and the new DA program will be the top of the pyramid anyway.

Anonymous said...

Go on PDAs website to see list of National Players. Also very impressive. Just goes to show that it's the club and the teams year in and year out.

Anonymous said...

9:53

Are those the same bottom 6 you keep blaming all your tournament losses on? Not 6:20, but unless your daughters team is the u-14 Nat dev squad you are so full of bs it's pathetic. I've seen a number of ECNL teams this fall and none of them have 6 players I would trade our top non ECNL players for.

Anonymous said...

Sachem Speed was NYE State Cup Champs and Region1 Champs and was placed in D2 and you say ECNL is a bubble? I guess Sachem doesn't have any ODP coaches or Region1 ODP coaches. They should never have been placed in D2 and you call ECNL a bubble.

You really think YMS & 1776 have that many solid players? So they all must be ODP players? What do they do when ECNL becomes a DA? Still play ODP? How many of them make PF?

Anonymous said...

10:08

Please don't hate-Appreciate

Anonymous said...

10:21

I appreciate talented players no matter what club they play for. Shame you're not mature enough to do the same.

Anonymous said...

No one here doubts that ECNL has legitimate top level players and very good to excellent teams. Its your over the top spoon fed "I'm blowing so much money it has to be great" blindness that takes away from the good side of ECNL. Great players and teams never have to talk about how great they are, simply because everyone know its. You have built your ECNL wall so high that you can't see the outside. I'm not a 1776 or YMS parent and I'm sorry to scare you, but unfortunately some of the players would make an ECNL team. Of course they would have to carry your daughters bag for the first months, but eventually they would play.

Anonymous said...

PL in the Colonial league not PAGS.
Only wins came against lesser teams.

2-2 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ)
2-4 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
1-1 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
0-2 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)

4-1 DOUG MILLER SOCCER DMS GU12 STEALTH (NYW)
4-2 PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE (PAW)
7-0 DOUG MILLER SOCCER DMS GU12 STEALTH (NYW)

Plus going by GS and the results they used to rank PL
How is a team so stacked give up 4 or more goals 2 times
or 3 or more goals 4 times?
Do you really think PL wouldn't have the same record as FCBucks or CFC Delco?
I think Boston, Stars, EM, MF, PDA, FSA, CFC would feast on PL - your best chance would be vs
WC, PF & Albertson. I bet that GD would be a big minus number.

2-4 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
1-2 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)
0-1 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
1-5 FC REVOLUTION FORCE (PAE)
1-3 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)
1-3 YMS

Anonymous said...

10:34 why would you scare me? You must think I'm someone you know?

Anonymous said...

10:10

What is your obsession with Sachem Speeds placement. Can't believe a team that beat the might PDA only got placed in D2 of the Reg 1 league. I'm sure if Calvert applied they would have been in D1 if that makes you feel better.

Most of YMS could replace FC Bucks and most of 1776 could replace Cont. Or let me put it this way, most of the non ECNL players are better than the current ECNL players on those teams. So right there goes your theory of supposed ECNL superiority.

ECNL will not be the girls da, take it to the bank. Truthfully if the ECNL was doing such an incredible job why would the USSF feel the need to step in?

And you will find a number of players from all 3 PA ECNL teams who also play ODP,. If the ECNL has the best possible training and the best possible college placement why are they spending all that extra time and money?

Anonymous said...

Some Jefferson Predictions

PL will drop all 3
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01

Calvert will drop all 3
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL
CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD
BRYC 01 ELITE

NJ Crush will drop all 3
PWSI COURAGE 01G RED
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL

PDA Ajax wins 1 maybe 2
CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL
RICHMOND UNITED PRE-ECNL
NEW YORK SC G01

Anonymous said...

10:36

You want to go back to 8v8 ?

Let's compare the " best team" in the ECNL vs PL by common opponents this fall at 11v11


PDA 2 -PFusion 0
PLegacy 5- PFusion 1

PDA 1-Calvert 2
PLegacy1-Calvert-1

PDA 2-Athletico 1
PLegacy 3--Athletico 0

See a pattern?

Anonymous said...

Just showing you that Region1 is a bubble as well.
Yeah they beat PDA to win region 1 championship and then got accepted to a Region1 League D2 Flight.
Yes they also won the NYE State Cup (NCS).
What are you saying they are not good and deserve D2?
or maybe you just need to know someone to get D1?
You know like region1 Staff or ODP Coach

Just calling like I see it.

So you are telling me State Cup and Region 1 Champion is worthy of D2?

Anonymous said...

10:40. You are kind of a silly bird and I do not know you, but have seen and heard from many like you. There is nothing wrong with you daughter being a mid-level support player on a good team. And there is nothing wrong with you ringing the team bell and being the team mouthpiece. But you have drank so much kookaid you actually believe your ignorance is truth. I have come across many parents like you over the years of doing this, and your type always takes it the hardest when the bottom falls out your on the outside looking in. But don't worry, there is always a new shiny object to chase.

Anonymous said...

PDA Storm has never given up 4 or more goals and they play much tougher teams than PL.

Wait didn't you guys get number 1 billing by GS by using those 8v8 games?

So you beat them 5-1 after they beat you 6-2.

Okay so we are sticking to 11v11 how many wins vs top teams? 2? AND all of a sudden you have arrived.

Zero wins at Jefferson? If they have a good Jefferson I'll change my toon and support them but I need to see that first.

Anonymous said...

I doubt you have come across many like me, I know I'm a tool and admit it - but you got me tied to the wrong team pal - wrong state by the way. But if it makes you feel better I'll be that guy.

Anonymous said...

Those were PL's 8v8 scores 10:36. Can you do me a favor and look up Penn Fusions U10 scores? It will help us decide where they should have actually been placed for Jeff Cup. Teams like Ukranians and FC Revs have fallen off since going 11v11, while others that played 8v8 as a learning tool to get ready for the big field, have become stronger. Can you take a moment and look up some U9 NJ futsal results for us also? It help find out why those pesky Wildcats got placed so high.

Anonymous said...

I haven't got you tied to any team or state and do not care 11:11. You are thinking you are way to important, because nobody cares where your from. But you are not alone, every league and team has koolaid drinkers just like you. Its not a bad thing as all leagues and teams need someone like you.

Anonymous said...

First of all Storm has never played a team "tougher" than Legacy

Second, no that #1 ranking was achieved after Spirit U, that was 11v11. And don't act like any of us have bragged about it or anything , you brought it up

I believe just this fall they have played 10 teams ranked in the top 1% of the nation incl 6 state #1's. As far as wins, sorry they "only" tied Calvert and the Wildcats but considering both team beat the so called best team in the ECNL last time they each met, I think that was pretty good.

And what's with the "zero wins at Jeffrrson" comment. Last yr they went 4-0 with a +14GD and this yr hasn't been played.


Anonymous said...

Why is anyone still talking about 8v8 results at this point? Wake up! Different game, teams have grown. If your still searching records from 8v8 I'd suggest finding a hobby.

Anonymous said...

10:49, just curious, who do you think wins the Elite Orange Flight at Jeff Cup?

Anonymous said...

PL 6k+ GS points from 8v8 tournaments. So if we were talking GS and #1 PAE team, then 8v8 very
much part of the conversation since we can't pretend they don't have those points.

PS. I agree with you about 8v8 different game- still doesn't change the facts that those points are used from those results so now your rankings first (how they are made) before you tell someone to wake up.

Wait they didn't even win their state cup and are Region 1 CL D1? Do they have ODP coaches at PL? How did a non state cup champion get placed in D1 and Sachem Speed NYE State Cup champion and Region1 Champion get placed in D2?

2014 US Youth Soccer Region I
Champion

New York East State Cup 2014
Champion

ENYYSA Premier League
1st

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup games for Boys u16-u18 have been cancelled, and the younger groups this weekend are 50/50. Hopefully, the girls will not suffer the same fate, but its completely possible that all games on grass will be cancelled next weekend, ugh!

Anonymous said...

Dude, can you please shut-up about Atletico-light already, they are not a top team, NCS in NYE is a joke, and Sachem Speed have no forward momentum.

Anonymous said...

Answer me this question about Region 1 CL first?

So NCS is a joke? How did this team that won that joke of a league win the Region 1 Championships then? Is that also a joke of a tournament? Isn't that the prize for the champion of the Region1 Champions League?

Why are they D2? Keep deflecting - we know there is a secret club at Region1- helps teams and players don't pretend.

Anonymous said...

7:40

If you want to subtract off PL's 8v8 points then do the same for the rest of PAE as well. Fairly certain they will still be #1 but why do you care?

As far as Reg1, you will also see they dismantled the team that did win State champ twice since then. Pull with Reg 1 people, please? Certainly no where near what a club like YMS would have and they are still stuck in D2.

Face it, they deserve to be where they are, now go worry about your own team.

Anonymous said...

7:41

Thanks for the info. That stinks for those teams. Do you think they might cancel the younger boys due to the wet conditions? Sat high 47 and Sunday high 57 but the fields will very wet.
Next weekend high of 53 in Richmond but 60% chance of rain. They actually have a chance of rain everyday in Richmond next week. If the girls play next weekend it will be on very wet fields.
Most of the games are played on grass fields correct?

Anonymous said...

Girls will play next weekend
Forecast for rain means nothing now, need to wait until it get closer to determine rain %

If there is no snow on fields which there won't be then they will play

Anonymous said...

Who cares who is #1? Who plays who? What league you play in? Who is better then someone else?
Why can't we all just be proud of our daughters for getting to the level they have gotten to and to where they will get. Who cares if someone else is better then them, that is life. Always someone better then you. There is such much negative talk on this blog. we should all be supporting each other. Hopefully in the next few years on this blog there will be talk about college ID camps and talking to college coaches about playing at their school. Who cares how much money someone gets to play college soccer? Most of the girls will not be playing after college.

Anonymous said...

A sloppy muddy mess next weekend.
That means make sure you bring enough towels because the girls will bring that mud into your cars.

For a lot of the teams it will be their 1st outdoor games of the year.

Anonymous said...

7:52 Doesn't Region1 CL have pro/rel??
So why isn't the
NYE State Cup Champion
Region1 Champ
EPYSA Premier League Champ
in D1, didn't the girls earn that? If they are over their head then they get relegated to D2 and if YMS wins D2 they replace them?

PL not a state cup champ
Region1 Colonial 3rd place (this is below Region1 Championships) how did they get D1?

No opinions here just facts based on results. Call me what you will - but lets not pretend Region1 doesn't have their own bubble.

I we are compare common opponents between PL and Storm- How Did PL get D1 and Sachem D2?

Anonymous said...

Why are you looking for some grand conspiracy my friend. You need to look no further than Sachems fall record. What was reg1 supposed to do with that? Again your not from Sachem, your kid doesn't play Reg 1, why do you even care?

Anonymous said...

PL and PF are the only two who could contend for best in PA. Both solid teams that probably will always flip flop results. Fact is, right now, PL deserves that top spot. You must be a PA dad who's daughters team was beaten by them and still haven't recovered. Take her to their tryouts if it bothers you so much.

Anonymous said...

Okay I will stop with Sachem Speed -
I think you see the point I was trying to make. Fall record has nothing to do with anything as NJ is the only state that had their NCS in the Fall - so Spring very much a factor. Why were they overlooked? The girls deserved the shot they played who was in front of them and won even beat a Pre-ECNL team.

some Jeff Cup Predictions:
Feel free to rip them apart or just ignore them

###############
Group A
1. CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)
2. BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
3. PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
4. CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)

Group B
1. FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
2. TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)
3. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
4. PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)

FC Virginia wins Flight

###############

Group A
1. WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (NYE)
2. PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)
3. MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)
4. NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)

Group B
1. CLEVELAND FC '01-'02 ROYAL (ON)
2. PDA AJAX (NJ)
3. NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
4. RICHMOND UNITED PRE-ECNL (VA)

World Class wins Flight

###############

Group A
1. PDA DRAGONS (NJ)
2. CFC ARSENAL SKY (CT)
3. GRAND RAPIDS CREW JUNIORS 02 PREMIER GOLD (MI)

Group B
1. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
2. YMS BANSHEES (PAE)
3. BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 01 BLUE (MD)

Group C
1. FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)
2. NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)
3. 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)

Group D
1. PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
2. CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURUGNDY (NC)
3. FC UNITED U13G ACADEMY (IL)

STA wins flight

#################

Group A
1. ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)
2. BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
3. CASL 01 RED LADIES (NC)

Group B
1. HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
2. FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
3. DISCOVERIES 01 LADY GREEN (SC)

Atletico wins flight

#################

Group A
1. HBC SPARK (NYE)
2. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
3. STORM SSA 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)
4. DC STODDERT BLUE METROS 01 (VA)

Group B
1. CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)
2. PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
3. EMPIRE REVOLUTION SA ROCHESTER 01/02 (U13) (NYW)
4. FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01 (VA)

CFC Delco wins flight
##################

Group A
1. OAKWOOD SC (CT)
2. MICHIGAN BURN 02 BLACK (MI)
3. RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
4. NVSC JR. MAJESTICS 01 (VA)

Group B
1. MCLEAN YS U13 PRE-ECNL (VA)
2. LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)
3. OP FIRE GIRLS U-13 RED (ON)
4. ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)

Oakwood wins flight

Anonymous said...

Is 7:40 obsessed with PL or what? He just can't let it go! Now he's asking about the coaches credentials, should that be something only the parents should be concerned with? Or do want the Parents background checks too. Let it go 7:40! All this just because your worried that some Pags, NPL or some other ECNL player will take your daughters spot. Don't worry, she's safe where she's at. All high level player's need support players. But you keep doing your PL and YMS research. Since this is your new hobby, could you look up Classics and Rage. They have moved up a lot since going 11v11 too. I suspect foul play here.

Anonymous said...

Cleveland Rocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSW-OM8h8c

Anonymous said...

I was going to stop but as 8:44 is trying to deflect I will jump right back in?

Do they have ODP coaches at PL? Simple question.

Fact
PL did not win state NCS
PL finished 3rd in Region1 Colonial
PL is Region1 CL D1

Fact
Sachem won state NCS
Sachem won Region1 main tournament
Sachem won EPYSA Premier League
Sachemis Region1 CL D2.

What does your claim about me have to do with the above Facts. But you can deflect and attack me for pointing out these girls from Sachem appear to be out of the Region1 bubble.

Anonymous said...

But if you must know 7:40. Here is PL coaches credentials.
Started playing in England at Nottingham Football Club
Played on England Schoolboy's U18 National Team.
Upon coming to the United States was a two time All-American
NSCAA Master Coach and USSF National "A" Ranking
Can't remember what kind of car he drives, but I think he drinks his coffee black. I will try to get you his eye color and shoe size later so you can add to you PL collection. Is there anything else you need regarding PL?
Of course all Legacy teams have two coaches, so I will try to make sure you get more info on the other also (you don't need pics do you).

Anonymous said...

If you insist on bringing up last year state cup (8v8), Let's understand they were 11/12 year old capable of one bad day. They lost 2-1 to the Ukrainians. PF also lost 2-1 to HMMS in that same state cup run. Could those teams compete any other day with PL and PF? No way. Look at other past results from when PL played Ukrainians. It was no competition. So yes, bad days happen. PL and PF had to eat humble pie and watch 2 lesser teams compete for the State title. Move on.

Anonymous said...

Who is Sachem? ....Seriously.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I heard the Russians are taking over the Ukrainians, pretty quick.

Anonymous said...

9:00 Does PL as a club have ODP coaches ("Do they have ODP coaches at PL"). Didn't ask about your team's coach but thanks for sharing. looks like a good coach. So does the CLUB have ODP coaches? and you can share the other information as well if you like.

9:00 I am bringing that up because that appears to be a criteria region1 used.

I did move on - but you keep dragging me back in.

leave it and i will leave it. So don't answer my question about ODP coaches at PL.

PS. how does it feel to have all these posts about PL? The same way others feel like when they have to read NJ Wildcats, MF & PDA rants?

Anonymous said...

9:00

Its amazing that the excuse of 11 and 12 year old girls and any given day gets thrown around as an excuse( which i agree with you by the way) But on this blog PDA and Wildcats get no Mercy for losing or a tie of a game on any given day.

I know we want to grasp things as absolute but nothing is ever absolute in Any Sports at any age.

The best we can do is assign a rating for a top team as being a top team in the region.


And in my book these teams are top teams in the region

PL
PF
Matchfit
EM
Matchfit
Breakers
Virginia
Wildcats
NEFC
Crew


All of these teams have great players and can become monster teams in next two years if the right girls come into the program and if you have the right coach.


And yes-any given day between these teams


Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

my apologies for leaving out PDA

Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

9:13
I am a Pa parent and I enjoy the Wildcat, MF and other rants. When its just good back and forth ranting regarding soccer and with some wit attached, its good reading. Thank you "soccer nut" for always being the voice of sanity on here when it borders on the point of being pointless to go on. I just wish 9:13 would hate (just appreciate).

Anonymous said...

Yes they do 9:13. Several actually.

Anonymous said...

6:20pm yesterday... You are really out there if you think 6 kids from your team would make any top ECNL team right now. The only kids making those teams from outside clubs are the top 2 that would make any difference. May be tough to swallow but yes, only 2. And who cares about how much money these PDA and MF kids got to these schools. In the end they will have degrees from Stanford, Duke, UNC, BC, Princeton, Dartmouth, Georgetown, etc.... Who cares about the soccer after the 4 years of school. Stop being meathead soccer parents and get your kid in to the best academic school possible and move on....

Anonymous said...

I tell you what Soccer Nut, I'll stop criticizing mercifully when those teams you mention stop their antics of coming on this blog advertising their wins but making excuses for their losses.

How's that?

Anonymous said...

6:20 Here

Tell me 10:26. do you consider Penn Fusion a top ECNL team or is it just PDA and MF in your little mind? Answer me that first and I get back to you.

Anonymous said...

PF is a middle of the road ECNL team right now. You must be a PA parent, probably a PL parent. I do not think PL has 6 players that would go to PF and make the team.
If so, then why not take the girls to try outs. If they make the team then great the girls will get to play against better competition which will only make them better.

Anonymous said...

PF beat MF this fall right? I will answer correctly and without your blind predjudice, of course PF is a top ECNL team. Kindly ask the PF parents on here whether or not PL has 6 girls who would make their team. One of ours made it and turned them down BTW, another was s starter and left another ECNL club to play for PL. Our kids don't leave because they are happy fool!

Anonymous said...

PF beat MF, Boston and EM. But had bad loss to Albertson and ties to Conn teams. so they were very inconsistent. They fizzled near the end of the season.

Why did the girl try out and then decline? Just to prove she can make it? Starter from another PA ECNL team? I think everyone can agree that doesn't mean anything.
So 1 to 2 girls can make the switch.

Anonymous said...

PF held there own dispute some of their top players being injured this fall, I would not be surprised if they made a play for the league championship this spring

And nope that players been with us from the beginning, won't speculate her motives, not my kid.

You've never seen us, have you? So your contention that only 1-2 of our girls would make it is pretty much just you talking out your ass as usual huh?

I will tell you we have a goalie, 3 defenders, 2 middies(one regional team), at least 2 wings, and the best damn forward in the game that would START on any ECNL team you name, the day they got there. And at least 3-5 more who would make it. You really know nothing, do you?

Anonymous said...

...and I hear they just gave Sky Blue a beat down in a friendly. Got to go see this wonder team play.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she realized the grass isn't always greener. Maybe her parents thought about driving over an hour 3 times a week to practice. U15 is where things start to matter, right? That's a big commitment to make before things start to matter. Who knows. Worry about your own kids.

Anonymous said...

I love how all these teams full of girls who could not possibly make an ECNL roster keep beating the ECNL teams. Weird? Maybe, just maybe, there's some talent out there that isn't in a ECNL uniform?

Anonymous said...

So you're saying if we had a group of 8 girls who could start on a u-13 ECNL team, they could put a beat down on Sky Blue. Either SB stinks or you are a fool!

Anonymous said...

PF had a pretty good defense. I am not sure you are right about the defensive players coming over. Do you only play 1 GK? All the ECNL teams play 2 GKs at this age. Does your 2nd GK let the goals in? Although, PF seemed to stop scoring goals so something happened there.
You do make it sound like you have an All-Star team. Too bad your girls will never be pushed against good teams when they older. They will never play PDA and only get 1 or 2 chances against other ECNL teams. So you better live on those games if you can beat them.

Anonymous said...

Your win now mentality has been proven year in and year out as the wrong way to go for the future. It is about where you will be when it counts. And the proven road is ECNL. Again just a small fact. Nothing wrong with winning now and if that is what you are looking for you will find a few good teams to play on..... BUT, you need to be prepared for what has been proven over and over again. ECNL is and will be by far the deepest league in talent to play in.

Anonymous said...

Are the ¨win now¨ players not improving?

What is your point exactly?

Anonymous said...

Not at the same pace as the others will. Again, just do not bash unless you can come on here and show proof that ECNL is not the best and always is by far and away the best come U15-17. You can always claim a win over one of these teams now but where do you want to be come U15-17. ECNL is the crystal clear spot as of right now.

Anonymous said...

so let me get this straight. If you team wins, its only in the name of development and you as an ecnl parent on this blog would never use it as a guide to gauge where your team is at? And most likely you yourself have never mentioned on here about your teams win over another (because its all about developmental at this age). So ECNL has this proven track record over 10 or 15 years? or is it more than that? ECNL is a very good program and a great idea as long as its sustainable and it very well may be. But top talent is top talent and in today's age of being able to market yourself through so many different avenues(video, recruiting services, etc). Its much easier to be found. If it was a top team only league, would they have excepted FC Bucks and Continental? Or is just a matter of ECNL trying to build a base in PA in the hope that more will follow, thus creating a separate league. I mean if they are willing to take add two bad teams, why wouldn't they four more that can't win either? Mo money, mo money, mo money.

Anonymous said...

Soccer Nut and anyone else (see not killing PL with this post)

I took your list of teams and took results at Major Tournaments
Disney, Spirit, Bethesda,
WAGS, Surff Cup, FC Stars
Discovery, Eclipse, CASL

Plus I took h2h match ups vs each other at Pre-ECNL League, EDP Cup, NEFC Kickoff. If anyone feels I missed teams please let me know and we can see how they did in F1 at these events.

I think from your list these teams deserve F1 billing for sure.

AVG 2.25 GP 08, W6, T0, L2 NEFC
AVG 2.13 GP 08, W5, T2, L1 PL
AVG 2.11 GP 09, W6, T1, L2 PDA
AVG 2.06 GP 16, W9, T6, L1 FCV
AVG 2.00 GP 08, W5, T1, L2 EM
AVG 1.85 GP 13, W8, T0, L5 Boston

However, I don't think any of us consider an avg of ~ 1.00 per game top teams. This is why I think these teams should be replaced with others. They had their shot now it's time for others. Although MF only has 3 games played that's not enough to take them out of F1 the others, I don't see them as F1 but i don't make the flights at these tournaments. I just post crazy comments

AVG 1.38 GP 13, W5, T3, L5 PF
AVG 1.14 GP 07, W2, T2, L3 Crew
AVG 1.00 GP 03, W1, T1, L1 MF
AVG 1.00 GP 09, W1, T6, L2 Wildcats

Must admit - prior to this exercise, I always had PF ahead of PL and it appears I was wrong. But Sachem should still be D1 :) over DE Rush. But they are not and life goes on.

Anonymous said...

Money is all the same so don't hide behind that. You pay just as much as an ECNL club if you add it all up... Just look at the commitments. EVERY kid on roster going to play. Speaks for itself. Can you do it on your own these days? Of course. But again, how do you knock the ECNL way. Black and white.... Good luck with your way and sorry to say but if your girls gets the nod one of these years to go to ECNL club, I think you will take it.....

Anonymous said...

Everyone always looks at CFC or Bucks as examples of bad teams that play in the ECNL. You dont kick a club out of a league because of a down year. These clubs are better at older ages. Does that mean kids come to these clubs at U15 or higher? Does that mean the girl that went and made PF at u13 but decided not to play comes back at u15 and stays?
Every league has bad teams but not every league has the top teams in the nation.

Anonymous said...

Hey 1:27

Maybe we should start intentionally losing games so our girls can develop as fast as these other teams?

Sorry, winning is the result of proper training. Not inspire of it. You think PL has a win now mentality you don't know jack. Unlike most of your teams who have good starters who play almost the whole time at set positions, PL just rotates starters, plays the kids in multiple positions, and let the chips fall. They win anyway!

But their probably right, I'msure all those girls playing in the us youth national league and on reg ODP teams will never get into a decent college. Too bad, my poor kid will have to rely on her brains instead I guess.

Anonymous said...

I don't think its just money with parents, although that is a big consideration. The time commitment is a huge thing and more important than the money factor (at least for us). No one is knocking Continental or Bucks on their performance. The question was would ECNL be willing to adopt four more teams with similar fortunes in order to expand the league further into PA? Even though the ECNL overall product would be diluted by taking teams that will struggle to find respect in a tough league. Your thoughts???

Anonymous said...

ECNL would take the whole Club not just a team. So at every girls age group they would play in the ECNL and have a NPL team. Just because PL at u13 is good, that doesnt mean their current u16 they would beat PF, CFC or Bucks.

Anonymous said...

Good point 3:10. And most age groups on most clubs do differ in play level. But I could see a club like Rage joining the ENCL. They would not have the driving issues other teams would have as they are close enough to all major highways out of Reading. It would still be a considerable drive for them, but nothing like teams west of them. And they are an improving club, especially their U13.

Anonymous said...

Rage? That club isn't going anywhere.

Anonymous said...

and you know because????? How many competitors are in there in their surrounding area? If FC Revs goes under, where are those girls going? Very few will be willing to make the commitment to Fusion, and that's only the best ones. So is your statement of Rage not going anywhere carry the same weight with Bucks and Continental because their U13's struggled. Rage is the club that would benefit the most from joining the ECNL. They would be on the outer fringe but the label would garner them many top players. I am not a Rage parent, but don't you think it would be a great fit for them?

Anonymous said...

Please. People have been talking about FC Revs going under for years now. Look up the qualifications needed to be an ECNL accepted club. Rage doesn't have those qualifications. Their U13 team is decent, not great, by the way.

Anonymous said...

Rage Soccer Club is delighted to announce that we have signed a new 6 year contract with Adidas

ECNL is with NIKE.

How far is Reading from the Lehigh Valley? They play NPL.

Anonymous said...

I believe you about the qualifications and Rage not having it. Just stating it would be a great fit for them. As a former Rev yourself, you know how precarious that situation always is with that club. Last year they had to combine there "A" and "B" teams in order to have a enough to play. Their U11's through U14's won a total of 4 games in Pags. Despite your obvious dislike for Rage, they will keep getting better simply because the other option is so bad. I'm bored with PA talk,Where the hell are the NJ Guys? We haven't had any rip your heart out soul destroying comments in a while.

Anonymous said...

Not a former or current Rev parent but I've heard the same banter for years now about them going under.

PA talk boring? If people have to keep reading PDA and Wildcat bashing discussions this blog may become a ghost town because THAT has become painful to even skim over at this point.

Anonymous said...

U13 Girls Super Y teams so far

Empire United Soccer Academy
Rochester Rhinos
Long Island Rough Riders
Football Club NJ
Patriot FC

Real Maryland F.C.
Maryland Rush
Washington Spirit Academy MD

Washington Spirit Academy VA
Annandale United Majestics FC
CYA Soccer Premier
Northern Virginia Majestics
Northern Virginia Majestics Blue Travel

Anonymous said...

Should be a lot of snow removal going on in Virginia this weekend, or else Jeff will end up just like the Annandale Boys tourney that was just cancelled. Since I've already picked the bracket winners, there is really no need to play Jeff other than for developmental reasons. Obvious picks here, the rest are just playing for second place.

Championship Bracket- Virginia over Fusion

Orange Bracket- Cleveland FC (Not just the heart of Rock and Roll anymore)

Black Bracket- YMS (This was easy)

Superior Orange- Athletico (Pulled it out of a hat)

Superior Black- Continental FC (because somebody has to win)

Anonymous said...

Why is it that everyone always complains about a dribbler being a ball hog? We need to nurture our potential creative #10s not turn them into 1 touch robots. I always hear derogatory comments aimed at creative players who are strong on the ball both on the field from players and from parents on the sideline. However interestingly rarely from the coach. I think at u13 it is important to consider the number of turnovers created as a benchmark for some success but also consider the number of scoring opportunities created as equally important. It seems that no one really pays attention to the first. At u13 and below a 50-50 ball launched from the back with no intention that loses possession is more aggregious than a turnover in the attacking half resulting from a 1 v1 attempt. Before quashing creativity consider the overall result and let the coaches do their job.

Anonymous said...

Its ridiculous that you would think that a coach would know more that a parent. Secondly, some teams love to launch balls from the defensive backfield, to the point that its even part of their identity. But then there is the opposite side of the coin. A offensive player can shoot and miss 3 or 4 times in a row and parents will shout "Good Try" each time. But when a defender gets beat or a keeper misses a ball, your can hear the crickets chirp.

Anonymous said...

No problem if an offensive u13 player misses 3 or 4 times if she scores a goal a game...she is hugely successful.

Anonymous said...

8:44

Your view on the matter is a bit incomplete.

Nothing wrong with a girl who dribbles and is creative in the last third, The issue is- that very same girl may have a low soccer IQ. and her dribbling, know matter how good, comes out of selfishness rather than creativity. there is an easy litmus test to evaluate such a player. As she is dribbling , watch how her teammates have appropriately checked into space and are open to receive the pass. does she pass it then or still hold and begin to miss opportunities and slow down the game, until she is in trouble and then decide to pass not because she see's the chance to further the play but because she is in trouble and now looks to get rid of the ball and possibly put one of her teammates under pressure. This is not being creative, This is a ball Hog with a low IQ that is in love with her dribbling skills.

Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

further,

Parents never see all the missed opportunities as their daughter is making one move after another, they only see the dribbling.


Soccer Nut

Anonymous said...

8:23

So your predicting that Penn Fusion, a team I see on here described as a " middle of the road ECNL team" is going to win their bracket? To do so they will need to beat Cinn who beat PDA this fall 2-0 and Calvert who beat PDA 3-2, and BRYC who beat MF 2-0. If they do do, it's safe to say they are far better than middle of the road.

Good luck to them BTW.

Anonymous said...

2:59

The problem with expanding into PA is that the current clubs apparently hold veto power. Only a few worthy I can think of, YMS, and no way FC Bucks lets that happen and PA Classics. A few years back PAC and PL planned a merger and applied for ECNL status as a joint new club and were turned down. The merger then fell apart. Too bad really. The clubs have different priorities that I think actually would compliment each other and end the competition for top players. Anyway, watch for PAC to be a player in the girls DA for just the reason you mention, expanded geography. They have a very successful boys DA program and a solid and improving girls program as well.

Anonymous said...

To pile on, PF finished last in their bracket at WAGS with another team in their group at JeffCup. Don't see them making the final.

Also, didn't see a all-world forward when we played them, wish I knew her number.

Anonymous said...

The all world foward being described is a great player, but not all world. But is healthy for the first time in a long time. The PF you saw in the fall was a battered group that had lost confidence in themselves. BYRC will not be the team coming out of that bracket.

Anonymous said...

Soccer Nut I would love to frame your 10:30 and 10:50 posts and add 1 more comment, over time the other players will not appropriately move into space to receive. They begin to stand around and watch. This shuts the whole process down.

Anonymous said...

PF didn't finish well either.

Anonymous said...

This years Jeff cup is wide open I feel. The weather has not helped any team. Most teas have not been able to get outside and practice too much if at all.

Championship - FC VA over Cincy
Elite Orange- MD United over Cleveland
Elite Black - STA over FC United
Superior Orange - Atletico over HMMS
Superior Black - FC VA over Harford
Superior White - Rage over Mclean
Platinum Orange - Manhattan over NJCSA
Platinum Black - OBGC over Boston
Platinum White - PA Crew over Richmond


Anonymous said...

Can someone please show me some results that indicate that this Cleveland team is premier? Unless its the same guy always posting, why are they being picked to win the Elite Orange Flight?

Anonymous said...

who is your pick to win that bracket?
The person above picked MD united to win not Cleveland.

Anonymous said...

My daughter’s team, duh.

Anonymous said...

PDA Ajax?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your list 9:14.
the teams you mentioned are all first rate and while they can all win or lose on a given day the fact they they are arguably among the top 10 in the region is proof of their success.
Now it's a matter of maintaining that lofty status over the next 2 years.
If these teams add even 1 or 2 outstanding players at tryouts to what they have on hand they will remain among the best out there.

Anonymous said...

Here is a question from anyone that might be able to shed some light on the subject for me.

How do they pick the girls that go to US National Camps?

I was looking at the U16 team. They do not seem to get the best girls by ranking. I am looking at topdrawersoccer ranking of the girls.

They list 6 forwards there. Out of them the highest ranked forward is #6. Some are not ranked or are even out of the top 20.

I mean good for those girls that are getting a chance but is this system purely a who you know situation?

Anonymous said...

9:06 No, NY state of mind.

Anonymous said...

Speaking USWNT, there is a MF girl who was selected to the u15 team the other day. You know the one, the former GFA girl, love her, hate her, does not matter, she is a great player, and the only 2002 from NJ selected to the 36-player roster. Good luck to her!

Anonymous said...

She's a 2001, not 2002.

Anonymous said...

However, there are 6 Pl girls that can take her spot and one is a regional player - lucky MF isn't in PA.

Anonymous said...

9:06 - No Ajax
At FC Stars and Spirit
W3, T0, L3 = 1.50 pts per game.
Not an elite team not even the 2nd best team at own club.
Lost to Dragons in NPL action at u13.

CLEVELAND FC 01-02 is the OH North GS #1 team Had some good results and close games vs very good teams
previously and is the u12 Jeff Cup Superior defending champ.

Anonymous said...

Pda has three practice fields open for weekend.
But then again - they don't train any of their own.
Anyone else have fields open?

Anonymous said...

FC Copa will manage the official Sky Blue FC Reserve Team in a co-branded agreement, which will play a season concurrently with the full professional side.

Anonymous said...

Does that make FC Copa more attractive? maybe a future USSF DA now that they are in with NWSL??

Anonymous said...

WOW 12:17 are you saying NJ had warmer temps and PDA didn't train there teams?

Anonymous said...

their teams

Anonymous said...

Speaking of Sky Blue, nice friendly schedule announced where they play 4 collegiate clubs including Rutgers, St Johns and North Carolina

see website

Anonymous said...

Getting called up to national team combine camp is impressive, keeping your spot and getting called back is not easy. Good luck to the 2001 group. 2002 group has not been identified yet.

Anonymous said...

I do believe they have several 2002 s invited as well.
They like taking the younger ones with promise and they can keep them longer. If you are a younger one invited - much more promise of staying.

Anonymous said...

Dude, what ever happens from this point on is gravy. All those kids are great and only a few can say they ever went to one of these camps.

BRAVO called back or not - these kids are winners hands down.

Anonymous said...

Is what you are referencing through the US Soccer dev camps?

Anonymous said...

Nah

I wouldnt expect '02s in U15 camp

Anonymous said...

Yes @327. US Soccer Dev camps for 2002s have been going on since last summer.

Anonymous said...

Most GS point accumulation in the Fall NYE
PTS - # - PTs per Tournament - Team

10635 (3) 3545.0 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
9442 (2) 3147.3 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL
7763 (2) 3881.5 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
4922 (5) 984.4 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL
4558 (4) 1139.5 HBC SPARK
4498 (3) 1499.3 NEW YORK SC G01
4453 (3) 1484.3 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02
4222 (4) 1055.5 LAGRANGE RAGE
4171 (3) 1390.3 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC STARS
3047 (5) 609.4 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01

Anonymous said...

Come on 8:00. Show Cleveland some love. The previous poster didn't pick Cleveland to win, but he does know they will end up there. Who else would you pick out of that bracket? Look over the bracket and you say "yeah, lets go with Cleveland". If Seth the Soothsayer says it, its a done deal.

Anonymous said...

I predict my daughters team will win the Elite Orange Flight, that’s pretty bold, right??

Anonymous said...

You must be from Cleveland.

Anonymous said...

I can't even spell Cleveland, so how could I be from there? No my friend, not from O-HI-O, nor would I ever be from O-HI-O, be I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once...

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Anonymous said...

Who is playing down a national call up? It frigging awesome and I'm extremely sorry I jumped into the middle of your conversation. All of us wish our girls might receive the same someday. My mistake not knowing protocol and we were not allowed to move off topic until it was declared done. For now on I will sit in front of my computer so I can answer an to question that is posted within seconds, and be sure not to seem as I am maligning someone else's moment. Is there a certain keyword that signals when is okay to post? Super awesome expialldoshious to her for getting the call up, and to the parents for seeing all their time given also rewarded. Wildcats Forever (that my keyword)

Anonymous said...

And lets not forget to say congrats to the current group already on the U17 and U18 national teams. I'm not sure if I can print the names, 5:51 can you help me with proper protocol here?
U-17 Defender (Penn Fusion)
Forward (PDA
U-18 Goalkeeper (PDA)
Midfielder (FC Revolution)
Forward (FC Virginia)
congrats to the parents of those players and the commitment they have put out in order to give their daughters a chance to be where they are.
Seth the Soothsayer

Anonymous said...

Where is the link to see players invited to U15 camp

Anonymous said...

Have to ask 5:51. This is his subject matter. He very protective of it.

Anonymous said...

Amen, 7:06

And you are correct - no names....

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