Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah (catch my breath) hahahahahahahahahahahaha....Boca plays horrible soccer. Please, stop it already.
My EDP CUP PLATINUM predictionsFinalSJEB '01G NPL (NJ) SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT) 3rd placeNJCSA ELITE (NJ) NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)
3rd place game at EDP Cup is a nice touchI have NYSC in the finalI'll go with you on their opponent being S Central CT
1: NEW YORK SC NPL-01 (NYE) 7 5 2 0 17 3 17 2: QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL-01 (NYE) 7 5 1 1 16 5 16 3: MASSAPEQUA NPL-01 (NYE) 7 5 0 2 19 8 15 4: MANHATTAN SC NPL-01 (NYE) 7 3 3 1 12 5 12 5: ISA NPL-01 (NYE) 7 2 2 3 10 10 8 6: BRENTWOOD SC NPL-01 (NYE) 7 0 0 7 4 24 0Oh look, Massapequa is actually 3rd for the spring season, strange no? Oh my God, how did that happen?
Ok haters, start your engines! GS4 is almost correct. But not quite. Here is what really will go down:PA Classics, bitter and hating after their loss to 1776 in the state cup will amaze all by squeaking through Bracket A just above the Ohio team. The Wildcats will be second in the bracket, but this ain't horseshoes.BRYC, will stomp through what's left of the Legacy and Albertson, and LVU, though underrated, will have a very tough time in what is definitely the bracket of death.Yardley will wilt and Cleveland will be taking an early and long road home. SSS will feel over confident but will succumb to 1776 1-0 ( the same score they beat 76 in the Champions League playoffs). (c'mon 76 hater, that's your cue!)Not sure how they will compute the wildcards, but I am thinking 76 beat BRYC in the final. Bring on the hate!
&;%2 yeah that's for GS points which we all just talked about -how pointless they are. You see people killed EDP who did it right this time their fall season is actually different than their Spring season -two separate seasons.Now we all know NYCSL NPL is a straight through league fall and Sping count as one but what NYCSL NPL does for it's teams is split their season into two to give their teams double the points. So when people kill GS - it's not the tool it's the people that play the system that are to blame.NorthEast Girls NPL is a straight through league that get points just once, so all those NYCSL NPL teams have the bloated GS points can't blame EDP this time. NYCSL NPL Fall 2015http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=46997 (6,300 points)NYCSL NPL Spring 2016http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=48915 (8,500 points)Oh look the league made up 2,200 points some people just now how to cheat the system but GS has the black eye and GS made the NYCSL NPL do this right.The great thing about Massapequa is that they finished in 2nd and 3rd but yet 1st overall.
7:52 not &;%2 my keyboard stinks
YouthSoccer Rankings the vegas of youth soccer calls it like this with it's "Predictive Power".Bracket A34.99 TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) 34.82 WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (MI)34.71 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ) 33.24 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)Bracket B35.53 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)34.96 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE) 34.49 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS (PAE) 33.96 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) Bracket C34.28 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)34.23 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA) 33.83 CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL (ON) 33.28 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (PAE) GS calls it this way:Bracket A#12 TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) #15 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ) #40 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)#76 WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (MI)Bracket B#18 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS (PAE) #20 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)#47 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) #49 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE) Bracket C#2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA) #17 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)#36 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (PAE)#286 CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL (ON)
EDP CUP PLATINUMYouth Soccer RankingsGroup A32.97 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)32.74 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE) 32.68 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ) 32.65 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN (NJ) Group B33.15 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) 32.77 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ) 32.88 CALVERT ELITE CESC '02 (MD) 32.96 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA) GS calls it this wayGroup A#5 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN (NJ) #58 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE) #59 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)#98 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ) Group B#11 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ) #55 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) #137 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA) #222 CALVERT ELITE CESC '02 (MD) A poster said great tournament close to home.I would say an even tournament in regards to level of play with max GS points.Delco teams stronger by 1.51 goals.34.36 Delco Tournament32.85 EDP Cup
PDA ECNL Showcase and their Youth Soccer Ranking score no playoffs just 3 gamesGroup A36.37 East Meadow ECNL35.99 FC Virginia ECNL35.63 PDA ECNL35.43 Ohio Elite Soccer ECNLGroup B34.77 FSA FC - ECNL34.67 FC Boston ECNL34.63 Maryland United FC ECNL33.96 World Class ECNLGroup C 35.19 FC Stars - ECNL35.23 Match Fit Academy ECNL 34.50 Connecticut FC ECNL34.30 Bethesda SC - ECNLTournament YouthSoccer ranking scores35.05 PDA Showcase34.36 Delco Players32.85 EDP CupSo for the people that killed Delco the Youth Soccer score has it -0.69 goals vs PDA Showcase not to bad. Not as big agap as many thought I'm sureGS4
Delco Teams vs ECNL teams14 W6 T16 L45 GF52 GASOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE6:2 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)2:0 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)3:1 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)2:3 FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01 (CT)BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE4:0 CASL 01 ECNL (NC)1:2 PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)2:0 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)0:1 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)1:0 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC)1:0 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD) 2:0 MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U14ECNL (VA)0:0 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD) TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 011:0 OHIO ELITE ECNL (OS)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS0:2 CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)1:0 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 PRE-ECNL (MD)2:0 PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES1:1 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 PRE-ECNL (MD)2:1 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL0:5 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0:4 FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)1:1 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)1:3 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)1:0 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)3:2 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)1776 UNITED FC XTREME0:2 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)0:1 BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)3:3 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 012:2 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)1:2 ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)0:3 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC)PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F140:4 EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0:1 FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)1:2 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK0:1 OHIO PREMIER OP ECNL (OS)CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL0:0 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)1:3 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
McLean Youth Soccer - hold your head in shame! We know of several girls on the 01 ECNL team that were notified by a generic rejection email that they were cut. The coaches did not even have the decency to talk to the girls beforehand.What makes it even worse is that the rejection email did not go to the parents......it went to the girls email accounts the Monday they were doing SOLs.Outright disgusting - McLeans ECNL team sucks and is not competitive and I truly hope they reap what they sow (my daughter is not on that team but we know several girls who are).Absolutely disgusting and speaks volumes about that club and its coaches.
Well, if they suck you have to appreciate that they are at least trying to get better
10:48 nothing to appreciate I agree with 10:39 down right disgusting. We know these clubs are trying to get better that's why they hold tryouts in with the new out with the old. But to treat a kid you coached for at least a year that way is a black eye to McLean. You see this is where boards like this come in handy. I only wish more VA posters could read and spread the word of how shitty a club that is. Yes the coach is an extension of the club.GS4
@8:01pm love it!!!1776 mom won't make it past the first game!!! She'll be dragged off the field kicking and screaming because her daughter will succumb to her own dirty foul play
Unfortunately, it is the way of youth soccer and ECNL teams are the worst. I think what is hard for parents to take is the cloak of creating a fake family type atmosphere when all the while parents and coaches are cut throat. Parents should understand that coaches do not have your daughters best interest at heart no matter what they say. if you don't understand that going in then you will fall prey to their double talk. and you do not owe a coach or a club anything. Soccer Nut
Soccer Nut -- I agree, but I am not angry about it. It is all in your attitude. When you graduate from town team soccer to NPL or ECNL, your daughter is now managing her own soccer career. All the girls playing these clubs are competitive and trying to be the best. They aren't there for social reasons -- that is secondary. That is why the quality of play is so good, but it is also a bit cut throat. But that also means that you don't have to take a coach's word on your abilities as the final word. I tell my daughter that that coach is managing a team and he is making decisions that he think will help him win. He is not looking to help each girl be the best she can be. It is totally subjective and he is only looking at the girls in relation to his team -- not in relation to that entire age group across all clubs. It is up to the parents and the girl to take a larger view of the world. They need to always keep their eye out for the best options. Once your daughter takes ownership over her soccer career, she will have much more confidence.
Well said!Soccer Nut
8:39 - I am an ECNL parent, and you win "post of the month" as far as I am concerned.
I agree soccer nut and unfortunately most learn the hard way.
9:07 I like 8:39's post also but that's not the issue to me. It sounds like no feed back was given that is what bothers me"We know of several girls on the 01 ECNL team that were notified by a generic rejection email that they were cut. The coaches did not even have the decency to talk to the girls beforehand."What ownership can a player take of this besides being blindsided. What does any of this have to do with graduating from town team to NPL or ECNL? This has everything to do with being upfront with your players!GS4
PS. How can anyone stick up for a club that does this? Like put the blame back on the kids and the parents well you should have know better you should have seen the writing on the wall. I'm guessing they payed over 2k - I guess it's true most of our kids are nothing but $$.
You assume fairness and decency GS4. But that is not how it works. If you impose your own beliefs then you will no doubt be disappointed when coaches and clubs play by there own rules. Soccer Nut
Good posts people. Here's a business comparison during a yearly evaluation period:If an issue is brought up that is a surprise to the employee, then the manager is doing a poor job. Issues should be dealt with throughout the year when they occur.Back to these players receiving emails...are they really surprised to get cut or is about the email instead of a personal conversation? As we all know, people very often hide behind texts and emails.If player is surprised of cut, then coach SUCKS
I'm surprised by McLean's treatment of their players. McLean like other ECNL clubs is very up front that players aren't guaranteed a spot year to year but that doesn't mean you shouldn't give a player a heads up, or that you shouldn't have the decency to give them the news face-to-face instead of a generic email. The head of the girls program has a good reputation but apparently the 01 coach hasn't learned how the handle the personal aspect of coaching. Although judging by the team's results and the games I saw, he really hasn't learned the coaching aspect of coaching either. I can only assume that McLean thinks the demoted girls can still make the B team since tryouts are still going on so the girls aren't being harmed. I agree with the comments that a player and her parents should have some idea where they stand, but a coach should also let a player know before tryouts that they may not have a spot. That's especially true at McLean as they have had birth year practices for several months now so the club should have had a good idea which players might lose a roster spot with the changes. To the McLean parent, you should also post your message on DCUrbanMoms Sports and Fitness forum as that gets a lot of attention DC area soccer.
I agree great posts9:32 coach is an extension of the club - the club sucks if the coach sucks they the club should know who their employees are and is paying them to represent the brand. For me it's not the cut that's business when you get in bed with a premier club - it's the being cold that gets me. Anyway i'm going back to results, last night I compared the Delco f1 teams to ECNL teams for the Delco sucks poster. Now i will do a reverse and compare the PDA showcase teams to the delco f1 teams head 2 head results. Not much of a difference. But i heard all these teams play like massapequa and play all 18 in the box while the ECNL teams weren't a full strength for what ever the reason PDA Showcase teams vs Delco F1 teams10 W4 T9 L31 GF29 GAFC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)2:6 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITEWORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)0:2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE3:3 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)1:3 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE0:2 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE3;1 CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYALFSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01 (CT)3:2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITEFC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)1:0 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE4:0 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL1:0 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)2:1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE0:2 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLSBETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD0:1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE0:0 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE0:1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL1:0 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEOHIO ELITE ECNL (OS)0:1 TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 PRE-ECNL (MD)0:1 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS1:1 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES2:0 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEEAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)1:1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL4:0 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL (MA)2:1 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14
So, GS4 - what is the recommended protocol for notifying a player that she has not made the top team?
I think my ability to empathize has been knocked out of whack by so many years of ECNL. Our club also did cuts via email (technically the email was an invitation to the B team, but that's the same thing), and I didn't think anything of it. That's just the way this coach rolls. Other coaches I'd be surprised to just receive an email, but for this coach it seemed appropriate.So part of me thinks some of the cut girls should have received a phone call instead. But I also remember in my youth coaches reading off a list of names at the last tryout ("The following players should report to our first practice next Tuesday...") or there being a list of who made the team for school sports. That very public humiliation seems much worse than receiving an email, and we all lived to tell the tale.
I think a phone call is the way to go. It requires the coach to man-up, and possibly deal with tears and angry parents -- something they don't like to do. But, in my mind, that comes with the territory of being a coach.
12:01 recommended? How about Mia it was great working with you this past year(s) - sad to say I no longer see you as a fit for this team, with tryout season on the horizon you may want to look for another team. What's so hard about doing this? It straight forward no gray just black and white. No reason for anyone to be upset as we all know cuts happen. In that post to find out after tryouts via an email is flat out wrong after you take the players money and then kick them to the curb like that. to me the club is nothing after something like that and this was an ECNL team the so called Academy of girls. Is this how it happens at the top?12:12 I think any girl should be told before regardless - going down to the B team or on the outs since when do we take away choice from the equation? The club will always field a team these players had their options cut in half if not taken away from them and that is flat out wrong.But yet most people on this board don't give a rats ass because it's not their kid so it must be okay that's how we roll right.
"But yet most people on this board don't give a rats ass because it's not their kid so it must be okay that's how we roll right."This is from real life experience, right? Because I don't see any posts suggesting they don't give a rat's ass. It's been a pretty thoughtful discussion.
Our daughter plays on a top NPL Team, regularly in Flight 1 of major tournaments, at a non-ECNL Club.All of our teams players dress and play every game and in 3 years with this team I have not seen any player cut, much less cut without personal notice from coach.A few players have left on their own over those years because they were not happy, ususally with their role(not starting or sharing time,etc), while 1 left for an ECNL Team where I understand she now plays about 10 minutes per half on average(that is when she is picked to roster).It is definitely NOT all the same on all these ECNL and NPL Teams. Please just speak to your own experience with the teams and clubs your daughter has played for.
12:57 here. Also our parents look forward to going away to tournaments where the team and parents make a reservation and all go to the same restaurant between games and/or after games for a bite/beer/drink/dinner and many hang out together in the evening in smaller groups that they are friendly with, but not cut throat at all.
US Training Center - you find out you're cut when someone you know gets the latest invite and tells you your name is not there.
12:56 Why would you say that? My post is about the VA club and if you read this board you know why i said don't give a rats ass has nothing to do with this conversation.But to answer your question not real life by kid will be playing for the same club going on year 4. 12:57 & 1:03 I am talking about the post made about the VA club and those kids. I'm happy your team is close so good strong friendships have been made no doubt.
Yes many friendships and many good memories made with our team and still being made.Don't believe everything you read on here. You can play and train at a high level and play regularly, and the experience can be enjoyable and memorable for both player and parents.While there are always ups and downs with every team, I am so happy that our family has not had to deal with some of the nonsense I read about other children and their families enduring.
I agree, in fact I am real close to some of the other parents on our team, we attend swinger conventions often.
1:40 - laughing out loud. That was funny!
Guys RCL no more - it's ERL nowUS Youth Soccer Region I Eastern Regional League (ERL)Region I proudly announces the Region I Eastern Regional League. The ERL replaces the Region I Champions League.There’s more than just a name change. The ERL adjusts the age groups in accordance with the USSF mandate. The league plans to introduce additional changes in the coming weeksElite – ERL top flight; teams playing at this level can expect region-wide play. The Elite Division of the Eastern Regional League is for the top teams throughout the Region in the U-13 through U-19 age groups for both girls and boys. The competition is designed to allow the very best teams in Region I to play each other in a league format.Expected 2016-2017 TimelineSeptember 2016– Application Open
1:58's post not surprising as US soccer moves to strengthen their position via vis ECNL in their battle for control of the top of the pyramid.1:57, 1:23 and 1:58 expect more attacks and deflection like that from 1:40.Those who are benefiting from the status quo are desperate to keep you believing you have no choice but to sit still for their chicanery if you want your daughter to play in college.
12:56 read 1:40 & 1:55 and ask me again why I said most people on this board don't give a rat ass unless it's their kid?But to change the topic. For all the youth soccer guruswould a team that plays approx 30 games not counting Championship events attract players from an hour away?~ 4 games State NCS >>>>>>>>>>Region1 Championships~ 7 games USYSA National League>>USYSA National Championships~ 7 games Region1 - ERL >>>>>>>Region1 Championships & NL QualifierPlus Four tournaments1. CASL Girls College Showcase (December)2: Disney's Girls Soccer Showcase (December)3. Jefferson Cup - Girls (March)4. PDA Girls College Showcase (May)
3:17 here you can sub out ERL with NPL, NCS with US Club State Cups & USYSA National Championships with US Club National Cup
No reason why not. You will get plenty of exposure with that team. As long as your child has a fair chance to earn good time in that teams player pool it is a viable option for a strong player with eyes on the college level.
Chicanery, hahaha. Dear Lord, that word is almost as old as you, almost.
Continue to deflect from the points made with your personal attacks. It has worked up until now right? Fact is the ground is shifting and you are powerless to stop the coming changes. Your Golden Goose will soon be cooked.
Wow, I am not following any of these comments. Can try to apply some complete sentences and punctuation? I am no nazi -- just confused!
3:47, or whatever your name is, I am not deflecting anything, I am just making fun of your vocabulary. Your tiresome and boring post was only surpassed by your use of a word not used since 1910, sorry 1810.
Attacking the messenger individually is always a sign of ignorance.
MF coaches SUCK and continue to SUCK
You saw what happened to the Persian messenger in the movie 300....THIS IS SPARTA!!!!
My gift the ECNL parents even though GS means nothing to bad PDA Tournaments don't give GS points ECNL teams would be at the top of their states but I know GS is to blame for not being accurate.GS4 Projections as of today -these will be recalculated the day that GS manually creates the event.ECNL 2015/2016 Conference Standings8/1/2015 - 6/7/2016Flight Ranking Value: 6267 5,173 (100%) MATCH FIT ACADEMY ECNL U142,319 (75%) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM2,141 (60%) PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL2,344 (45%) WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL1,161 (30%) CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '010 (0%) FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNLFlight Ranking Value: 8000 5,622 (100%) EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ4,199 (75%) FC STARS OF MASS ECNL3,038 (60%) FC BOSTON SCORPIONS GU14 ECNL2,278 (45%) ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL2,088 (30%) FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 010 (0%) CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14Adjusted GS points (approx national rank)** Combined PDA and EM multiple accounts23,144 (#5) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM21,721 (#9) EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ17,723 (#21) FC BOSTON SCORPIONS GU14 ECNL16,967 (#29) ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL16,205 (#30) FC STARS OF MASS ECNL15633 (#37) PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL13153 (#57) CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '0110642 (#87) MATCH FIT ACADEMY ECNL U147639 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL7,287 FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 018,619 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U1420 FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL
Good number crunching!
stay away from TSF! They are so dishonest with players and parents and if you question them, they throw you out of the club. They don't care about player development, only lining their pockets and they'll say anything to do it!
stay away from [enter any team name here]! They are so dishonest with players and parents and if you question them, they throw you out of the club. They don't care about player development, only lining their pockets and they'll say anything to do it!FTFY
@951. I disagree. Most clubs are not that way. Most clubs try hard. Maybe they aren't the best but most try to train your players and those players have fun playing. Then there are some clubs. Who are looking for the money only. And your players success is only important to their rep not your daughters future Problem is you need to figure out which one it is. And sometimes. You should listen to a critique on this board bc it may be correct.
And sometimes you should ignore the critique because it is coming from someone with an axe to grind.
Disregard the TSF postWithout details these rants men nothing at allAlways a good effort put forth by their outfit. But I will say I'd like to see more teams that have NO RIFT between supposed first and second teamers - where the playing time is doled out more equally.
sorry, playing time is "earned" at this level. equal time is mosa or rec. At the end of a game the players who are the sweatiest, bloodiest, bruised, bleeding are the ones who play the most.
Agree but hard to get bloodied sweaty and bruised if you're riding the pine for 90% of a game. Let's not pretend favoritism doesn't exist. Been on both ends of it. Unfortunately soccer isn't objective like track or swimming.
There are a couple of girls on my kids NPL team that are going to play ECNL this fall. All I have to say is, good luck with that, because if you think they were lacking minutes with us, just wait until you get a load of your team, sorry.Even if they were NT quality, which they are not, coming to a new club and expecting major minutes is moronic.
You want details about TSF's dishonesty. I have plenty, They say our players are so skilled. They get the beat training from our professional coaches. Our results suck but results don't tell the whole story. We charge the most fees of all the clubs for a reason. Every player will get their chance as long as our owner considers your parent to be a VIP customer. We'll mess with good players heads so they're convinced that they were never a good player to begin with then we'll play this player because we'll get a lot of business out of her daddy. TSF is not a professional soccer organization. They are a step above daddy ball and they try to justify their huge fees by lying to parents to cover up their money making scheme.
2:59 You can say the same about PDA,MFA and all the rest.
12:46There are no cripples on any of these top teams. Fine players are sent away from tryouts.There shouldn't be anyone getting 5-10 minutes per half unless it is for conditioning or disciplinary reasons.
You have said NOTHING, 2:59
you lost my business TSF as well as many others! Keep giving your ridiculous sales pitch to parents. Some buy it at first but then they will see
MF famous giving players 5-10 minutes or less a half.
The problem is not got soccer the problem is the tournaments. You had really strong teams in f2 3 4 at jeff cup. Why not make a 32 team bracket. This is how it works out west. Its much harder to get points. But any coach that asks to be in a lower division is doing a disservice to their players. You should want to see what better competition looks like. Check out surf cup. Vegas mlk cup among others.
7:26 not sure I am a fan of 5 games in 3 days. As crazy as this sounds i do like the 1 a day events.But to build or your suggestion. I think GS should set up their events in a different way. Teams will play tournaments regardless of the points they all look for quality. So my suggestion would be for them to create a pyramid for the "Major" events. For Example MLK, Jefferson, Delco, Surf, Spirit, EDP Cup, Stars, WAGS, Bethesda, Disney and a few others from parts of the country I'm not familiar with would be the major events. These events would be over 3 days with 32 team top flight to qualify as a major with max points for the teams that place. All other events would offer a fraction of the points and be used as qualifiers for these Major events. These games will become meaningful for the events and for GS as the tool of choice. You don't use GS that's cool but you get zero points and zero points for all leagues. ECNL clubs have their showcase events so they don't care anyway everyone else has qualifiers for the smaller teams trying to get into F1 of a major and for the teams that place in majors their points can be used for automatic spots or if they fall short of a threshold then they need to play in a qualifier. That would make chasing a good thing because you need the points to be accepted to a higher qualifier for a chance at a major where all the college scouts would be waiting (if you build it they will come to see quality)This doesn't get in the way of development because you can put limits on the number of events used for qualifying this would fall in line with the USSF for not overplaying and you would be playing meaningful games the term everybody loves to use these days (DA, ECNL, NPL, ERL, NL).GS4
why can't Match Fit hold on to their USNT players? this past year alone will be 3 players, over 5 years is 6-8 players. Any input?
12:38 The players left because they could and it was their choice to leave.
Is that true only 6 kids stayed at mfa?
yes...only 6 kids stayed..in the entire club. You people are ridiculous! Again, people should post fact not fiction. Those with an axe to grind should bow out gracefully and not post bs because their egos were bruised. Coaches and kids leave, get cut and new ones come in. It's the nature of the BUSINESS.Get over it and move along.
my daughter is u14, however my son was at a U11 tryout last night. My stomach was hurting watching this scenario. U11 pdashore girls team with 16 players. so yes, 7 players on the bench 9v9. Really? Is that what these players want? I know obviously the parents want PDA on the kids shirt, but how are they learning at 10 years old riding bench like that. That is crazy. I felt so bad for the girls and so bad for the parents that bought into that. No way you should have more than 14/15 tops on 9v9, right? That is certainly a crux to the issue.
If the BUSINESS was really player development, clubs wouldn't have huge rosters on their teams and then play the same starters every game and give the rest 5-10 min. If players and coaches were treated with respect why would they leave your successful business. Maybe your business plan has flaws.
This is strange, but it looks like Boca has lost it's mind. They have gone from the group of hope this weekend, to the group of death.Why Boca, why the madness?
Business plan very flawed, starts with lies, lies, lies, then more lies. wonder why people leave.
To be fair, most players get better through practice, not games.
Okay 7:09 let's be fair would you pay over 2k for less than 20 games played the entire season and in those 20 games your kid plays 20 minutes but you get 2 practice sessions a week in the Spring and Fall?Be straight up - your kid - you would be happy with this right?
7.09Great example of the lies coaches tell parents while doing damage to kids mental health and self esteem. Man up! Parents appreciate candor but you want their business. Big conflict of interest.
PDA and Matchfit have similar issues.Both are playing well but are always in close games because of trouble finishing.When in a close game the starters tend to stay in longer,lets face it they need to win to get the big numbers at try outs.With a 2 or 3 goal lead everyone would get there playing time.Kids leave these teams because the parents cant handle that Mia is no longer scoring every goal so they blame the coach.The best thing PDA did was move the Nat player to the back.She is very good back there and less gime,gime like she was on MF.I hope the coaches have been working on scoring at practice,Am i the only one that sees a problem when PDA ties CFC and MF wins 1 0 ,but FC Virgina wins 10 1. Do you play the kids equal time in a show case? Good luck to you both this weekend
LOL 7:09TSF told me that. Do you think your DOC would ever think it was OK if his children didn't receive plenty of play time in games?
Look, all. For whatever reason TSF had a crappy spring season. I saw them play at the Jeff Cup and I thought they were not very strong in connecting passes. So how do you fix it? New blood. Who gets cut? Thats's where the problem is. It is all up to the coach's judgment and, yes, in many cases that judgment is deeply flawed. Should the players on the bench get a chance and should you get rid of the starters? If this was the US men's national team, that might be an option as those are older players at the end of their run at that level, but that isn't how elite youth soccer team works. Please refer to:May 12, 2016 at 9:23 PMThey stuff new talent into the top of the funnel, and those who they perceive to be lower in the funnel (rightly or, in many cases, wrongly) get pushed out. Do they lie? Yes, sort of. They want to maintain the revenue and enough good players to field a lot of winning teams at a lot of levels. They say you can move up but you can't. You can only move down at this age. That is not because you are getting worse. It is because DOCs believe that whoever is new and shiny -- whatever they have't "seen" -- is better than what they have already passed judgment on. Their hubris is their total and complete belief in their past judgement.So what do you do? You go to a new club where YOU are the new and shiny. New Flash! Not all coaches think alike! Some coaches don't need [insert position(s)] and some do! Some coaches see your daughter as untapped excellence while others simply obsess on one perceived flaw. So TSF coaches are trash. Ok that's fine. But getting so mad at them gives them too much credit. Find a new team! Take control of your soccer career! Your daughter is no longer playing at the town team level where its all about fair play time and loyalty. Congrats! She is actually an elite player that is simply looking for the right team! For her sake, look to the future and stop bitching about the past!
@112 and @201Yes, new players come and others go, BUT, there was a mass exodus because MF only provided one practice session a week for a while. There was a host of other issues as well, but paying over 3k and barely practicing is a waste of everyone's time.PDA and WC don't lose that many players a seasoneven TSF doesn't lose that many!
11:10 Mass exodus (7-8 2002 players) because the fired coach promised a bill of goods to the girls he took to MF. Can't blame them for listening. Again, MF's rosters are full and saying no team loses that many, again is plain stupid. One year's kids left and they were all replaced, where do you think those kids came from? The practice thing is ridiculous. MF is at least 2x a week into practicing into July. No one left because of that reason.Overall your post, 11:10 is full of holes.. probably much like your head.
aren't ECNL teams supposed to train 3 times a week, with at least one training day being a combined session with other age groups?
MF Parent11:42 is completely off target. MF practiced once a week often, too frequent. IN addition, combined practices with 2nd team. No personal attention to players. Why Are you still bitter over the player exit? To far of drive to Denville, we are leaving. we move on, not bitching about next year.dont forget, 2 groups formed this current u14. Players that were brought in by North coach, players brought in by NJX coach. both groups have loyalty to former coaches. yes I am the parent that thanked them on the blog
8:23 I did not feel at all that that there were too many once a week practices. But i can't speak for others, much like others can't speak for me.And I am not bitter at all, who cares who left?All the kids will be happy next year wherever they are. The kids don't care who leaves, they are much more concerned about who stays.Be safe this weekend.
Unless you are one of the 5-10 core players who start and play most of every game then you are a fool to be on a team with a roster of over 18. Plain and simple you are being hustled by your club/coach.
10:08, I agree, but to a point. Hustled is a one-sided opinion of the process, and if your experience was such, I am very sorry. Speaking only from my own observations, its more that there simply aren't that many informed, and/or soccer-savvy parents. I am sure its the same in Baseball, or Hockey. That is where the real problem is, people are taken advantage os, and they are okay with it, until they are not. That is why i like this forum, it gives everyone a voice, that is mostly uncensored, its a good platform. Anyway, good luck in the future, cheers!
Nobody is OK with being hustled or suckered, it just takes awhile to see what's really going on. Some coaches will give you about 10 excuses. Just be patient, she's a good player. Shame on coaches who do this knowing your child will never play. They want the $$$. I think a lot of coaches are muppets being told what to do by management. I spent an entire season wondering why my daughter's team kept losing and the coach wouldn't change the lineup.
Yes it is parents ignorance they play to. They try and convince you that you have to stay and watch your daughter sit because it's all about the letters on the front of the shirt instead of letting you focus on your daughters happiness and Development. You only reach your potential if you are getting game experience and gaining confidence.
PDA wins win everyone plays somewhat equally. Look at Jeff Cup and San Diego Showcase. They temd to lose or tie games when they don't.
That's how it should be. Coaches picked these players, now play them. If you can't trust a player on the field, why is she on the team?
To be fair to the coaches, the talent level at PDA doesn't drop off much from players 5-20something. Not so at other clubs where the drop off is more pronounced
Of the U14s at MF, I believe more than 50% are coming back next year. Around that number, I believe. It's a big change moving to Denville so turnover was expected. Teams will still be good, and in 1-2 years Club will have adjusted fully IMO. The kids leaving because of the distance is understandable. Good kids, good players, good luck!
The MF saga was a foregone conclusion. What happens today is based upon the foundation of yesterday. The foundation of today defines what happens tomorrow.MF today is a result of the two dolts running Jefferson and NJX who did deals with MF. MF was wise to take the deals because they made money and had "insta"-teams to be able to compete. MF then broomed the NJX coach and most of their players were dumped to the tier 2 program. MF diddled with the Jefferson players moving them to and fro aimlessly and without a plan.You can only concoct stories for so long before even the dimmest parent gets a sense that they are being played the fool. And now the players are teens and they too are bright enough to sense the charade.No fault to MF. They are a for-profit business. And profit they did thanks to the dim bulbs who give away their teams; screw their players and then say "who, what, when, duh?" when asked how could you have been so stupid.Today is all about that.Now MF will create their tomorrow for this age group who have about 4 more years of soccer and paying big fees for predominantly kids who are not college material and would be better served on teams where they actually play more then they drive around the state for training and matches.
For the 2002 age group, about 25% of the current players returned. Currently NPL team looking for 6-8 players.For the 2001 age group, about 80 % of the current players returned.
What makes you such a pro? What is your field of study to make you such a pro?You said " predominantly kids who are not college material" the kids are 14 and yet you have determined they are done improving. WOW you must be a coach or someone with mad soccer and education experience, teacher?The problem here from an outsider on this board was a three headed monster. MF thought they could take two top teams then take the top players from each team to make a super team. But unfortunately, it sounds like both coaches want their team to be the "A" team to use their subjective opinions to fill the team. MF had other plans and feelings were hurt from coaches to parents and bam you have all these posts. MF did their part they put a group a very good players together and gave them the ECNL option for them to show what they could do. AND guess what they did they won their division and are going to the FINALS in the BEST league. But people like have made judgments that at 14 it's now or never for something. I'm just calling it like I see it and how it reads.GS4
SPOT ON GS4. Now if only fact would be written rather than fiction, it would be ok. That's not likely to happen as everyone loves the drama and there would be no fodder for this blog.
The earlier poster does not appear to be a teacher nor are they saying anything about a player not improving. The point being made is a good one and shared by many. Parents who are entrusted to manage their teams and players have fallen prey to the academy siren and they and their player have paid the price.
Teacher's get paid to teach our children and are qualified to make such a statement. I am not, I can give comments on the game I love and no way is a 14 year old done. That's flat out wrong.I do agree with 5:00 on many have "fallen prey to the academy siren and they and their player have paid the price."GS4
Yes MF won the division, won't do well at nationals. Play horrible soccer. East meadow has best chance to win it all
East Meadow man, Are you serious about KG and the gang winning it all, no really. They lack toughness, and I don't mean nasty play, they have plenty of that, I mean the kind of spirit that overcomes adversity, no matter the score. They are a bunch of complaining crybabies, I wish them failure!Have a nice weekend folks.
May 26 11:42 PMSo, where DID the new Match Fit players (the '01s for 2016-17) come from?Or is it just a combo of what was left of the U14 '01s and the U15 '01s?Any '02s playing up?Thanks
4:06 No offense, but who are you calling a dolt? You have NO CLUE as to the quality of the teams that are left. ZERO.Maybe the dolt coaches bought into Match Fit, that's on them.The MF coaches that are there are far superior in every way to the coaches that were jettisoned, this is a consensus opinion.I am sure that 9 out of every 10 athletes that goes to college from Match Fit will go to D1, that is why it's expensive, you get what you pay for.If you think these kids are not college material, you are sad, and sadly mistaken.
the NJ bitterness on this blog is getting a bit tiresome. Can we get a two week break from talking about MF?
MF 2002 will finish next to fc Bucks next year
10:36 I doubt it coach.. you couldn't con them all... they'll be better than you think, and much, much better in the long run.
Thanks for calling me coach first time in long time. Brings me back to the early days.Our team will win the national finals, as stated MF is now playing ugly soccer.
MF parent and PF parent, you guys have an issue with either your doc or former coach. You guys or gals need to man up have a convo with your respective person. Hiding behind this blog shows neither of you are true men or women
11:26 Who the fk are you? How do you know that didn't happen?
Fc delco flight 1. Wildcats averbuch 3. Waza east 2
affirmation comes from the inside not from the outside
East Meadow 1FCV 2PDA 4Ohio Elite 0MF 2Bethesda 3
PL over BRYC 2-1. I guess they had a pep in their step today.... What happened?
BRYC felt bad for them.
Forget Delco PDA showcase is where the teams are.
Yeah only ECNL teams are at PDA Showcase closed country club to others.
1:41 how many non-ECNL teams this year compared to last year?What happened to the ECNL b and C teams at this age group? Last year they played and the older b and c teams are playing this year? What'sup with this age group? You have to know the answer this question since you are the supreme poster with all the inside info that knows all the teams. What exactly does that say about the quality of soccer these teams play? That's a black eye to the NorthEast NPL.But going back to Delco all close games in this hear but one. PAC what's up? 4-0 shoes not F1 material. I hope 2nd game is better although NJ Wildcats or the MI team will not be an easy assignment.
Does it matter who's F1 anymore now? The new year with all its changes is here. Good luck to all amidst the new battles. Enjoy some summer first!
Another close one..Nj Wildcats 1PAC 0
Why wouldn't it 3:48? Next season is next season, 6 months away - I don't want fast forward 6 months maybe you do.
Most teams are done for the year after this weekend though and won't be the same come Fall.
PL loses to LVU?
any pep they had didn't last long!
PL felt bad for them.
South Shore should have no problem winning it all.
How is storm doing
Your 1 stop for scores by GS45/28/2016Delco Girls U14 Championship4 TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)0 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)2 WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (MI)1 WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (MI)0 TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) 1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)0 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)2 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)1 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)1 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)2 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)1 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)0 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)3 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)1 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)0 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)0 CLEVELAND FUTBOL CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL (ON)0 CLEVELAND FUTBOL CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL (ON)2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)2 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)2 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)EDP Cup0 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED1 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN1 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO2 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT0 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN1 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT3 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO4 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED 3 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION2 CALVERT ELITE CESC '020 SJEB '01G NPL5 NEW YORK SC G01 2 CALVERT ELITE CESC '021 NEW YORK SC G01 5 SJEB '01G NPL1 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONPDA Showcase4 Maryland United FC - ECNL 142 World Class FC - 01 ECNL 2 FSA FC - ECNL U140 Scorpions SC - FC Boston U14 ECNL3 Bethesda SC - Express 01 ECNL2 Match Fit Academy - ECNL U142 FC Virginia ECNL U-141 East Meadow Hotshotz ECNL4 PDA US Club U14 - Storm - ECNL0 Ohio Elite Soccer Academy - ECNL U143 Connecticut FC - CFC United ECNL U-140 FC Stars - ECNL 01/021 Ohio Elite Soccer Academy - ECNL U147 FC Virginia ECNL U-142 East Meadow Hotshotz ECNL2 PDA US Club U14 - Storm - ECNL1 World Class FC - 01 ECNL4 FSA FC - ECNL U144 FC Stars - ECNL 01/021 Bethesda SC - Express 01 ECNL0 Match Fit Academy - ECNL U140 Connecticut FC - CFC United ECNL U-14 Summary games that a team gave up 3 or more goals3 out of 12 games FC Delco F14 out of 8 games EDP Cup F17 out of 11 games PDA Showcase games that a team gave up 4 or more goals1 out of 12 games FC Delco F13 out of 8 games EDP Cup F15 out of 11 games PDA Showcasegames that a team gave up 5+ or more goals0 out of 12 games FC Delco F12 out of 8 games EDP Cup F11 out of 11 games PDA Showcase
FC Virginia is 2-0 and plays Storm tomorrowStorm is 1-0-1, tying East MeadowEast Meadow with a loss and a tieScorpions lost to FSA
Doesn't mater who wins anymore. It's all about how your daughter did when college coaches are watching.
That is so U13
Playing to WIN this weekend - sorry, 8:42Its a nice atmosphere to have my daughter in - learning to compete, to lead, to set goals and achieveBe well now
Live in the here and now and try to enjoy your kid. Tomorrow will be here soon.enough
Anyone who thinks the results matter in a college showcase has many screws loose.If you think the scores are important, you are a parent of a goalie.Otherwise, you are clueless.
11:56 Are you that silly? All that matter's is that our kids are happy and they get what they want out of soccer enough said!!!This is a youth soccer board talking about u14 girls soccer teams and issues with youth sports -what am I missing?So quick question what does that say about the quality of those ECNL teams if you had so many goals against? And the goalie isn't to blame. Educate me please if the ECNL showcase is about quality attacking players don't they offset that with quality defenders? Seven out of the 11 games had one team giving 3+ goals. Is this what the college coaches are after?
11:56 I forgot I have one more question for you why do they keep score at a showcase event? If the results don't matter and everyone is about showing what they can do individually, why keep score?Oh is it because the teams till plays to win and players get to showcase what they bring to the table to help their team get the result? Really why do they keep scores if they don't matter? Are you saying the results don't matter because the entire roster is playing and if it did matter only the best players would play? I'm not following,because I thought they play the game to win?
PS. I'm watching the Astro game and it's a commercial break so I figured I would post a little.
12:35 Have you ever seen a NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL, or East/West NCAA game? These are showcases... nothing you can say matters. No one cares about the score, just who stood out.
So an "All-Star" game is the same as a youth soccer showcase event between Manlapan and Boca? So the player that stands out gets what exactly if they have an audience with a coach that needs a player at that position?
12:48 I can tell you one person who cares about the score and that's my daughter who's playing. So I made the connection that any player playing a competitive sport always wants to win when they are on the field so the scores matter maybe not you and your kid. No wonder we have so much selfish play in youth soccer lots of parents telling their kids they need to showcase their skills. Maybe not you but it makes sense, just watch a game how many players could have passed to an open player for the score instead of taking a shot, but then they wouldn't be the player that stood out.I guess the scores really don't matter, in my house they do because they matter to my kid
9:19 here I agree 9;17 enjoy the ride and don't stand in the way.
Wildcats tie 2 to 2 vs tfa to win flight 1 bracket at delco. Team showed great heart played 3 games im stifling heat with 1 sub.
IF your daughter want to play fora coach that is impressed with for showboating shots over quality passing, then she should absolutely play that way and try to catch the eye of such a coach.
I think the point is that quality passing leading to goal scoring is valuable when playing soccer. Wasted shots on goal that do not find the back of the net and risk loss of possession are not.
Correct me if I'm wrong youth soccer gurus.But if a coach was interested in an event wouldn't they want to see two teams in a battle for the result and since it's a showcase the bench is not short so every players gets to play in a very competitive game.Or do you think these coaches want to see 'All-Star" games where the result doesn't matter and it's all about the individual skill?To me a showcase just means every player plays at least 50% of the game, the games still has to be super competitive.Anyway some scores from GS42 TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01 (eliminated)2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (A1)1 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (eliminated)3 WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (19 pts current wildcard)1 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (eliminated)1 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (eliminated)1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (eliminated)2 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (B1) The SouthShore vs 1776 will determine C1 and possibly the wildcard.No other scores updated.
Wow edp f1 stands tall at delco with lvu and cats both in semifinals
What exactly is meant by a showboating goal. I will tale any kind of goal. They all count the same if you put It in back of the net.
I didn't say the playing to win doesn't matter. I said that saying you team is the best team doesn't mean that much. There is a difference.
Hey 1776 hater. Turns out they knocked South Shore out and are moving on to semis. Have a great weekend watching TV!
Who said anything about showboating goals? Give me the goals! Useless showboating shots are not. Successful passing leading to scoring opportunities is more impressive.
Well Delco has had some of the weirdest scores I've seen.... South Shore out and LVU kicking butt?
12:35 Have you ever seen a NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL, or East/West NCAA game? These are showcases... nothing you can say matters. No one cares about the score, just who stood out.11:05 assuming you are 12:35 you said nobody cares about the score, if that is true then the game is meaningless- the goal is to have the kids always playing meaningful games and by reading your post about nobody caring well then the kids don't care and that tells the college scout nothing. A showcase is to have your roster depth payers also playing in meaningful games not in games that nobody cares about. So yes the score counts in every way to make these events meaningful. Now the question is what does the coach do? You play to win with your entire roster playing a min of 50% of the game vs girls not playing at all when the game counts. Big difference pal one can argue that the team that wins the showcase events are better teams since their entire roster is playing.NJ Wildcats vs LVU a preview to the EDP NPL final. 1776 vs Waza to U16 National league teams.If you look back to my post on overrated and underratedmost overrated:MA - SouthShore did not qualify for Delco Final4 F1PA - YMS did not qualify for Delco Final4 F1 zero wins last placemost underrated:PA - LVU - Qualified for Delco F1 (with BRYC& PL in same group)NY - Massapequa Qualified for Delco F3 final4 notgiving up a goal
12:39 here I have to give credit to the 1776 posterI saidNJ Wildcats - rightWaza - rightBRYC - wrongSouthShore - wrong (I hate myself for calling them overrated then picking them win50/50 - just like flipping a coin, Jimmy the greek I'm not.
Looks like the 2 PF players 1776 picked up helped .
The predictions weren't bad -- SSS and BRYC have been unstoppable-- but it just shows that despite all the hot air on this blog, all these teams are pretty similar in quality.
Such agendas for some. MFA at PDA up to date, 4 wins 3 losses and a tie. Would they prefer to win every game, sure.
EDP Cup Flight 1 predictions?Final- NYSC over South Central CT3/4- Calvert over NJCSA
NYSC and Calvert didn't advance.
So 1776 beat South Shore...even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time. They then reverted to form and crapped the bed in the semi's. Congratulations.
Wildcats vs Waza in finals . Not LVU
Wildcats won semi 3 to 0 vs Lehigh valley
Rematch of bracket game.
3:59 just saw that. Some crazy matches this weekend, it was a hot one!
So, 1776 hater -- what happened to you? How did you get your feelings so hurt by a team of 14 year old girls?
How did Wildcats other U14 team - Galaxy - do at Delco? They were there, correct?
I guess bitter haters sure can't pick on wildcats averbuch anymore as they adbanced to finals at 2 flight 1 majors Bethesda and delco in last 6 months so now they will hate on wildcats galaxy.
Is a team still rewarded when it has guest players? Results would be different
Who had guest players? In what tournament?
Certainly not wildcats they had 2 out injured and played with 12
Your 1 stop for scores by GS4 3 Bethesda SC - Express 01 ECNL2 Connecticut FC - CFC United ECNL U-142 FC Stars - ECNL 01/026 Match Fit Academy - ECNL U142 FC Virginia ECNL U-141 PDA US Club U14 - Storm - ECNL2 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN0 HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO0 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT0 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED0 NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION 5 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT3 SJEB '01G NPL0 CALVERT ELITE CESC '021 SJEB '01G NPL1 NEW YORK SC G01 2 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION0 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME0 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES1 CLEVELAND FUTBOL CLEVELAND FC 01-02 ROYAL0 1776 UNITED FC XTREME3 WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK 3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL0 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS Finals setF1NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (MI)F2TBDF3MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE) SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G (NYW) F4EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE) PHWM SC PUMAS (MD) F5WNY FLASH ACADEMY WNY FLASH GIRLS 01/02 (NYW) AFFC SWAG (PAW) F6LOWER MERION SC HERRICANES (PAE) SUPER NOVA FC 01/02 G (PAE)
And with no goalie
Wildcats are just amazing, what more can you say about them. And short bench, no goalie. Thank God some team from NJ is good these days. LVU playing well to make to semi versus cats, then cats smokes them 3-0. njcsa made it into 3/4 versus Boca. CT team takes all at Edp cup, beating up on barons 5-3. I am not sure how Barons gave up 5 goals, but against nysc they also lost 5-1, it happens. Boca got beat up on by Barons yesterday, then comes back with strong win against nysc today allowing only 1 goal, Calvert had tough weekend, not normal for them. I do think the heat and the teams in better shape, physically fit, hydrated properly, subbed properly, got enough rest, tents and vice-versa can explain lop-sided scores like that.
Looks to be battle royale tomorrow at Delco for all the marbles in U14: Waza vs. Wildcats. Lots of tactics and turf tasting possible. Who wants it more?!
Not a Wildcats fan, but my money is on them. Waza is not pretty soccer and Wildcats have been too strong this tournament. The Cats coach may just bust a blood vessel on the sidelines though.
They have already built in there excuse if things don't go well, no subs, no goalie. Just play the game and win or lose enjoy the ride.
Weather calls for rain all night and into tomorrow. Which team can better adjust to wet field may decide game.
MFA correct overall standings 6 wins 8 loses 1 tie
12:04 - Yet your kid wasn't good enough to play on MF... Too bad for her.
Ha! You deserved that, 12:04. What is wrong with you? Go to the mirror right now and say "I deserved that".
Wow dude no way u14 played that many games this weekend.
Just the ECNL Teams U14 1-1-1U15 2-0U16 1-1-0U17 1-0-15 wins 2 losses, 2 ties. 3 games leftNot sure what the NPL teams did, but that is the ECNL record to start today. So whoever posted the above record can't be correct.
And enough with this garbage that teams don't care about winning the games at the showcase. I watched several games and every one of the teams were giving 100% and making every effort to WIN THE GAME.
And enough with the posts saying nothing matters cause it's all going to change next year, 2 years, 5 years, blah, blah, blah. It matters now and now is all anyone has control of.
Of course they care about winning the game. You miss the point. Win or lose you are there to showcase your talent. College coaches there are not looking at the team. They are looking at the players.
That is understood, but there were numerous posts saying the teams don't care about results which is not true. They may not have any impact on standings or for a trophy but they are all trying to win. My daughter's team tries to win scrimmages. They are geared to play to win. Not something you can easily turn off/on.
10:21 PM - Don't insult the Wildcats with your "built in excuses" nonsense. Unfair to these amazing kids and their coach. While your kid is eating a hot dog in your backyard after losing on day one in Flight 3 somewhere, while you hate on their success and your child's failure, these kids will be playing a final at top tournament down two starting players, many kids playing out of position, with a healthy bench of one. Their goalie for the entire season is a field player who stepped up when goalie got hurt in Game 1. These are not excuses - it's reality that reflects the courage, determination and grit that makes a high quality team - and makes this high quality team special. They don't need excuses for where they stand. Now go pass the fruit salad to one of your party guests, hater!
8:51- while your sentiment is good, Wildcats play hard and win and shouldn't be criticized for it, thevway you said it is just as bad as the people you are scolding. Kids in F3 of delco play hard, are very good in the scheme of things, want to win, and deserve tour respect too. And no, my daughter was not in F3, she was higher up too.
Yss let'.all show a more positive attitude these are hard working girls.
8:51 all teams have injuries you are not unique but every tournament you have to remind everyone and it's old. Your team is not disliked because the kids work hard or from any success they had, they are disliked because of the parents and you didn't disappoint with your ignorant post. Rock on Wildcat parents, you just keep re-enforcing everyone's opinion.
Can I get an amen 10:14
The only thing that bothers me is when people post how hard a team works like no other team works that hard.
You both rock on yourselves 10.14 and 10.20 just as long as you respect what our girls do on the field we can deal with your personal animosiry. It's all about the team.
Amen to that.it's the girls and the teams Not about the parents.
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