Dudes, id2 and ussf training centers are not sign up and show up - a coach needs to start the process and recommend the player. ODP is just another option to play and showcase your talents no guarantee the player will have an audience.College ID camps you have to pay for but the girls train in front of the coach and it also shows the players interest in the program. If they like they will reach out and open the door. If they don't try again next year or move on.The one thing the players need to do is be able to play the game with players they don't know and possibly in a position they normally don't play. Size and Speed helps, but a player with skill will stick out.just my "2" cents
Were Ramapo Valley and SJEB in top flight @ FC Stars? What a joke.
That was a good two cents worth.
Coaches use these camps first as money generators. You should know that going in. However, if you and your daughter have narrowed her colleges choices, you can indeed use these camps to your advantage.But I personally started a bitt sooner than Jr year.For us it was part of a process that included the camps. We did not think for one minute that our/her work was over just because she attended a camp and she got on the coaches radar screen But it can be the beginnings of interest especially if she a very good player playing in a lower profile league . I have seen some parents attend camps-several without narrowing down their colleges. I think personally that this is a time and money waster. When you attend these college camps you will be amazed how the coaches get around the no contact NCAA rules to let the player know that they have interest. And then the fun begins ( club coach contact etc)Of all the id options, i think the order of importance for 99 percent of us are the following.USSF training centers and ID2 camps are great exposure for our kids.However, they can be highly political. ( and free)You will see numerous players at these camps that just don't belong.The good news is that over the years kids will cycle in and out of these camps.But the chance to go can indeed be a political one.Specific College camps starting at Freshman and Sophomore Summers.These two should go togetherODP is the very long and expensive route to recognition and in the end you may be left with some exposure and good experiences but it will not be cheap. ( for me this process is not worth the money. Others may find value.I would rather spend my money on additional training and Specific College camps.Private ID organizations may offer some value but they are minimal ( From my experience they prey on parents need for their daughter to be recognized.I am a proponent of league play recognition. This is how it started for my older daughter.Play at the highest league where your daughter gets the most playing time and then you as a parent have to do the work.Tournaments are great way for exposure but make show she is in the top two flights.Soccer Nut
Thanks everyone for the input. There are so many money grabbers out there preying on parents hopes while reaching into their pockets.
Lots of good give and take these past two days. Not much bashing of teams or coach's or parents of teams. I'm sure the creator of the blog is pleased. Great to see how many states hop on here and chime in.
Mr Nut I like what you say, but unfortunately it sounds like you are talking to the 1% only as 99% of the kids that play high level soccer will never sniff a ussf or id2 camp. While these are free and political as we both said the truth is they are only for 1% of the players playing premier level soccer. So this is not really an option since the player doesn't control whether or not they attend and take advantage. Agreed that it is the best, but unfortunately for only 1% of the kids. So while ODP can be expensive it can also provide a similar exposure opportunity, some kids might need the extra exposure.I kind of disagree about the ID camps being a money grab first. I think the coaches use them to get around the NCAA rules first, the kids pay and they get to see all the kids interested in their program. From here they can see what shape they will be in and how much recruiting they have to do. Sure they can do it for less money, so I see how you can throw the money grab label here.I have no experience with private organizations and agree 100% with your final comments about kids playing in the highest league they can to get as much playing time as they can. However, unfortunately they don't control what flight their team is placed in."2" more cents.PS. Also love the input from VA, CT, NY, PA & NJ
From what I am finding out about the ID Camps, is that coach's do attend. But many times it is an assistant coach or one of even lesser stature. As long as the school is listed on the brochure or email, all they have to have is an attendee. Would parents spend that money if they knew that was the case? We have learned much today. 1. NPL team played the best version of "pure soccer" at the Stars Tournament, but went 0-3.2. Coaching ability is often shown by how they adapt to game situations.3. Try to have your daughter on a team that amplifies what she does well.4. Be careful with your selection of ID camps5. Not sure what 5 is
Below are the projected GS flight values as of today with most pre-season tournaments done and league play starting next week.Note: the following have made certain flights lowerSome teams have multiple accounts because GS could not identify ECNL/NPL team and have yet to merge them:1. WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL & WORLD CLASS FC 01 PRE-ECNL2. EAST MEADOW 01G PRE-ECNL & EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ3. PDA 01G PRE-ECNL & PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM4. PDA SOUTH 01 NPL & PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXSome Clubs don't have a ECNL or NPL account set up so GS created one:1. CONNECTICUT FC 01 PRE-ECNL2. CONNECTICUT FC 01 NPLPDA Tournament GS points taken Away from:NEFC-EliteMatch Fit Pre ECNLEast Meadow HotshotzPDA DragonsWORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNLTSF Academy 01/02GLVU 01PDA-Shore FusionFC Bolts-GreenEDP South 0% CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE1% PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F141% 1776 UNITED FC XTREME1% JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION2% PIPELINE BLACK GS Projected Flight = 9,500EDP Central 0% NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL1% REAL NJSC SOUNDERS1% PDA SHORE FUSION2% SJEB '01G NPL2% UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK GS Projected Flight = 9,000NYCSL NPL 1% STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 011% NEW YORK SC G011% NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL3% MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES3% MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL GS Projected Flight = 8,000New England NPL 0% NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS1% GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/022% SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/022% OAKWOOD SC4% BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02 GS Projected Flight = 7,650EDP North 1% NJ WILDCATS GALAXY2% RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '022% NJCSA ELITE-MANALAPAN3% HBC SPARK3% TSF ACADEMY 01/02G GS Projected Flight = 7,000NorthEast Girls NPL 1% PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL2% MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U143% PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS3% EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS7% FSA FC U14 GIRLS NPL 01 GS Projected Flight = 5,884ECNL North 1% FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL 2% FC STARS OF MASS ECNL3% ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL4% FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 018% EAST MEADOW 01G PRE-ECNL GS Projected Flight = 5,387ECNL South 2% CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '014% PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL4% MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U146% FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL6% PDA 01G PRE-ECNL GS Projected Flight = 3,567
After the last two weekends we have a better feel for how the teams in the DC area line up after FCV ECNL as all of the contenders have played in at least one tournament with their new rosters. Going into the weekend, teams in contention for second place included Bethesda ECNL, BRYC, FCV United, Frederick, Loudoun Red, Maryland United ECNL, McLean ECNL, and PWSI. At the DMV Premier Cup last weekend, PWSI beat McLean 3-0 in the finals, signaling that perhaps PWSI’s reign as a top team is not over yet despite the loss of several top players. However, how impressive the win over McLean was is subject to debate.This weekend, consistent with the club philosophy to travel whenever possible even when there are quality local tournaments, FCV United played in the Greensboro Shootout. Regardless of how poorly the games may have been officiated, they fared poorly against the NC teams they played, finishing last in their flight. However, against the team that beat them 3-1 in State Cup last year, they won 3-0, indicating they might be an improved team despite losing several players.The main action in the DC metro area was at the Olney Capital Cup. Frederick proved what people in the know already suspected, that their win of the Region 1 championship was a fluke, by finishing last in a weak bracket. Hope this team ends up in your flights as they provide easy GS points. McLean ECNL pulled out the bracket win but still has a ways to go to be a top flight team.Md United ECNL failed to step up and justify consideration as the #2 team in the area as they lost on a late free kick to an unnotable Davidsonville team. Virginia State Cup champ Loudoun Red gave up any claim for consideration as they finished last in their bracket.The two teams who showed they are the strongest teams in the area after FCV were BRYC and Bethesda ECNL. Their first game was a scoreless draw, with Bethesda the more dominant team. In the championship, BRYC pulled off a 1-0 win but again Bethesda was the more dominant team. And against their common opponents, Bethesda had the better results. However, results matter so BRYC has to be considered the second best team in the area, at least until they play Bethesda again, with FCV United and PWSI teams to keep an eye on.
Frederick beat McLean 2-0, right, genius?A Sunday blip vs Montgomery aside, good show by the Region 1 champs.Easy points when Frederick are in your bracket? Guess again.
love the VA/MD talk.
This is a post on BOTNWhat happened to NYSC? Thought they were supposed to be so competitive and WC biggest threat. Guess not. Welcome to top ECNL comp, b*tches!This is the kind of hate we have to deal with, and we never brag or bash, complain a little sometimes, but never this kind of hate.
Moderator should clean that up. That languange towards a girls team, especially - is uncalled for
Larry Miller is a moron, doubt he cares, he probably approved it, that site is trash, and perfect for the LI crowd.
VA/MD posters - I did my best to match GS team name with team in league can you please correct the ones that are wrong.CCL(6) BEACH FC 01G RED(6) ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED(6) FC FREDERICK '01(6) BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE(6) LOUDOUN SOCCER 01 G RED(3) SOCA01-02GE (U14G ELITE)(3) VIRGINIA LEGACY SC VLSC CCL ELITE(3) MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED(3) POTOMAC SA HOTSPURS BLUE(2) LMVSC PATRIOTS 01 RED(1) FC RICHMOND FCR MYSTX '01(1) FREDERICKSBURG FC BLACK(0) MCLEAN 01 GREEN(0) ROANOKE STAR U14 PREMIER(0) SYA CARDINALS RED(0) DC STODDERT BLUE METROS 01NPL Virginia Fall 2015(3) VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G(3) RICHMOND STRIKERS PREMIER(3) FCV UNITED PREMIER ABGC NPL '01(3) VYS PHOENIX '01(1) CYA COUGARS 01(1) PWSI COURAGE 01G RED(1) CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC 01G PREMIER(1) FC UNITED U14G ORANGE(0) RICHMOND KICKERS YSC U14 G ELITE 1516(0) ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB (can't find)(0) VSA NPL ELITE 01G(0) NVSC JR. MAJESTICS 01
The fact that this NJ blog is pulling in people from VA, PA, MD, NY, Ct and MA is pretty impressive. Its great when you can post a question about and out of state tourney and and get relevant answers about out of state teams.
I do recall some talk last year at U13 board at BOTN where NYSC was touting itself as the NYE contender.Wasnt unwarranted, as NYSC did well in States againBut it comes back at you on message boards when you fail in an event.
Comes back at you?Calling us bitches is fair, is that what you are saying??
Under NPL, the FCV team is FC Virginia United Elite - http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=494765The Annandale NPL team is the one you have listed for FCV - FC VIRGINIA FCV UNITED PREMIER ABGC NPL '01 – which is a lower level FCV team filling in the Annandale slot.To the Frederick homer, the Region 1 champ won one game in a weak bracket of a second tier tournament; you lost to a team that couldn't score a goal at Spirit and to a team that couldn't win its division in WAGS league play. And yet you call that a "good show." Thanks for proving my point about Frederick being a fluke.
Thanks 11:31 - that's what I originally thought - but if you look at the one I have listed - they went to the NPL Finals.
if GS ever manually enters the VA NPLVA NPL 1% PWSI COURAGE 01G RED5% VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G6% FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 0114% VYS PHOENIX '0120% CYA COUGARS 01 GS Projected Flight = 3,335
11:31Stop talking about Frederick and the Capital Cup. You insult yourself.A desired result wasnt achieved Sunday - it went 3-2 the other way vs Montgomery - or Frederick wins bracket. It happens. And means little in the scheme of things.Credit Harford - and Montgomery as well.
NPL Northeast Girls LeagueSeptember 12, 2015PDA South 01 NPLEast Meadow SC 01 NPLSeptember 13, 2015PDA South 01 NPLPenn Fusion SA 01 NPL---------------------------------VA NPL September 13, 2015(0) VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION(1) CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC(1) FC UNITED(0) ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB(3) FC VIRGINIA(0) RICHMOND KICKERS(3) RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB(3) VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB(0) NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB(1) PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER(3) VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER(1) CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION---------------------------------New England Girls NPL9/13/2015AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPLBAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLSYANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUEGPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02OAKWOOD SC----------------------------------NYCSL NPL09/12/2015New York SC NPL-01Quickstrike FC NPL-01Manhattan SC NPL-01Massapequa SC NPL-01PSA NPL-01STA NPL-01NJ Crush FC NPL-01NJ Stallions NPL-01Match Fit NPL-01NY Rush NPL-0109/13/2015Brentwood SC NPL-01Intense SA NPL-01------------------------------------EDP9/12/2015UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACKLEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS9/13/2015JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPLBEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDERAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02NJCSA ELITETSF ACADEMY 01/02GGPS NJ FLASHHBC SPARKNJ WILDCATS GALAXYFC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMANJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPPDA SHORE FUSIONSJEB '01G NPLREAL SOUNDERSNEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUEBETHESDA STORM 01PIPELINE BLACKRAGE SC '01 ATJERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONCESC CALVERT CREW WHITE1776 UNITED FC XTREMEHARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
It's terrible referring to a team as bitches.. Especially when referring to a team of teenage girls. That being said, NYSC guy you are very transparent. Have been watching you play your games on this forum for about 2 years now, it's funny that you don't think people are on to you.
Lets not forget that poor NYSC guy never brags or puts down other teams although they were the only team that played pure soccer at stars!
Thanks 1:48, for the non-endorsement, you will forever be known as the That being said guy.2:27, I did not make the pure-soccer comment, although it was amusing, no such thing as pure-soccer in my book.and 1:48 again, I don’t give a rat’s-ass what anyone thinks of me, just don’t talk shit about the girls, they are innocent of these mind games, and don’t deserve to be called bitches by anyone.
NYSC club parent.I would be curious to hear what you thought of your girls this weekend and possibly the frustration and or dissatisfaction of not getting the results the club or the coach desired.I am more interested in what the coach had to say as I would like to understand the mindset.I am asking for selfish reasons as this may be a team we may target Soccer Nut
Why did you bring the BOTN stuff over here?Nobody here called the girls anything
Believe it or not, there people who visit both sites, and I wanted to share my shock with this group because I thought this group was more intelligent, and had respect for a fellow parent who travels and sacrifices so much for their child, guess I was wrong, plenty of haters here as well, probably some of the same people who troll BOTN.
4:22Your mind works in a funny fashionAll here are appalled at the comment made on the other board, though one might say it was not directed at the players
Why does the NPL allow it's member clubs to not keep up to date info on their website? Below is the EDP page some teams left two years ago, how can a league be taken seriously if it doesn't care about it's own brand?The Eastern Development Program - NPL Division joined the NPL in 2011-12 with boys and expanded to include girls in 2012-13. The league is administered by MSSL / EDP. Currently, the Eastern Development Program - NPL Division offers U-13 through U-18 boys and girls divisions with the following clubs based in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia:Girls:1. FC Copa Academy (NJ)2. Jersey United Spartans (NJ)3. Lehigh Valley United (PA)*** MOVED to NYCSL NPL = Manhattan SC (NY)4. Maryland Rush (MD)5. New Jersey Rush (NJ)*** MOVED to NYCSL NPL = New York SC (NY)*** MOVED to NYCSL NPL = NJ Stallions Academy (NJ)6. NJ Wildcats (NJ)*** MERGED with East Meadow NPL = Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)7. South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)8. TSF Academy (NJ)
Just visited the other board NYSC guy mentionedMan - they are killing the NYSC parents. What did you guys do?
6:09, not sure, perhaps people get-off on attacking successful programs, and I usually ignore the stupid comments, but the bitches comment today just set me off, even if it was addressed at the parents as 4:51 suggests. Here is a classic:Now I'm laughing NYSC. Is it a mandate that you score only 1 goal a tournament and give up 10x that?Nothing against the kids, they played hard but the parents have to be the most obnoxious bunch around from start to finish.Actually, it was 7GA and 1 GF, the SS game was 3-0, ref. scored it wrong. The ref who refused to call bad throw-ins, because according to him, I don’t call that, go to a national event if you want that, I thought FC Stars was important?I am not going to respond to morons on BOTN, would prefer to just respond to morons here : )
Just a footnote: I guess its one of 3 teams parents Hotshotz, World Class or Atletico, but I am not sure. Some of my rebuttals don't even get posted over there, guess the moderators can see I am from Westchester, and they hate us also.
According to the ref? What are you doing addressing the referee?
Actually it was our coach that addressed his non-calls initially, but after he shouted his response for all to hear, even the FSA parents were laughing about it with us, it was ridiculous, but true.
For ECNL teams Stars is a warmup tournament nothing more so I would take the REFs too seriously.They are pretty bad at most tourneys
6:54 Obviously the PDA parent convincing himself their loss was meaningless, just a warmup tournament.Would have been singing a different tune all about how results prove PDA and ECNL superiority if Storm had won Stars event.
So true 8:27! PDA is very careful with their selections for tournaments and the possibility of looking bad in one. So there is no such thing as a warm up tournament, just a tournament that they didn't even make the finals. Come on PDA guy, there no shame in losing to the Breakers.
Naw, sorry to disappoint, it was just a warm up tournament and Im not a PDA, although I have slept at a holiday Inn Express.
Not a previous poster but I will add, for ECNL, it is in fact the league that matters to coaches. True story, like it or not.
Please stop with the "Not a previous poster" garbage. I love ghe disguises people post on here. It's OK that you lost to Breakers. You're still a good team. Not the end of the world.
Think whatever helps you sleep 11:49. My kids team didn't even attend Stars. I am looking forward to her playing PDA though. Not too hard to see that they are a great team. Some of you people are ridiculous! So full of anger, jealousy and hate. This region is lucky to have so many high caliber teams. If your kid is lucky enough to be on or play against the best teams here, enjoy the opportunities.
PDA will smack PF around just like they smack FC Bucks and CFC Delco around. We now know that CT FC doesn't get together until later in the fall this explains why they missed Stars. The PA teams were the only ECNL teams not to show up interesting.
6:49 is not an good example of an angry hater at all LOL
Angry :)Maybe you take this board a little to seriously :(I am the previous poster 6:49
He's just pouting because his daughters team didn't make the finals at Stars.
7:34 You are 100% correct - my kid's team didn't win a game at Stars.Well they didn't lose either and guess what no ties either. I guess you know exactly who I am. Since you know me so well, here is my gift to you, some ECNL standings, the first games played this year so we can talk about ECNL and nothing else.Southeast DivisionGP PT GD Team02 06 +4 Concord Fire02 03 +4 Tophat SC02 03 +0 Carolina Elite SA02 03 +0 Jacksonville FC02 03 -1 Birmingham United02 03 +1 Boca United02 03 -4 Orlando City02 00 -4 West Florida Flames00 00 +0 Atlanta Fire united00 00 +0 Georgia SATexas DivisionGP PT GD Team01 03 +10 Solar Chelsea SC02 06 +03 Dallas Texans02 04 +01 TSC Hurricanes01 03 +02 D'Feeters SC02 03 +02 FC Dallas02 03 +00 Challenge SC02 01 -03 AHFC 01 00 -01 Lonestar SC01 00 -02 Dallas Sting02 00 -12 Texas Rush
I find it quite ironic that the best team in region 1 is an NPL team, and not a holier-than-thou ECNL team. All this bluster about this is the place to play is just that, bluster. If you have a good team, you have a good team, and they will come to watch, end of discussion.
I'm curious What does a single good team have to do with the quality of a league. Is the team going to play themselves on Saturdays.
I would love to agree with the NPL parent on this, and kudos to his daughters team for fielding such a strong team. But speaking as a former PAGS team parent, I would rather see our team play tougher competition on a regular basis. I have no idea of his daughters team's schedule, so maybe they do play better teams. But our best games have come against ECNL teams (even when it ended as a loss). Traveling an hour to play in 5-0 games is a waste a time and money for all involved. Of course the soccer landscape is different for each state.PL Parent
Many ECNL games are also 4 or 5 to 0, as recent seasons results will show.More than half of the ECNL Clubs do not field strong, competitive teams at each age group.The issue of unbalance and weak bottom feeders exists in every league now unfortunately.This is a direct result of the rise of ECNL and club exclusive leagues instead of the best teams in each age group making the top flights of leagues as is still done in Region 1 Champions League where club affiliation is irrelevent.
NEFC is in with Oakwood and Seacoast, 9:02 - and play some tough crossovers ahead of the NPL FinalsOf course there are "patsies", like every league including ECNL
That is true. Even in the Region 1 Champions League last year, the Delaware Rush got roughed up on almost every game.PL Parent
Teams in this situation, 9"02 of course know that their best competition will come in tournament play. Just the way the land lays for top non ECNL clubs. NPL has taken measures to make the league more "competitive" - using crossover play and of course a playoff structure at years end. Matching ECNL's true 22-game schedule of import is likely not their goal. Their current agenda seems both BETTER than 2 years back and ON THE RIGHT TRACKcheers....
what do you think the likely hood that clubs like NEFC are petitioning to get into the ECNL based on their overall club results , fields and quality coaching?
11:05. Did you just say playoffs? Doesn't someone on this board hate playoffs?
Yes, I hate Playoffs!!!Some more ECNL action this weekendSeptember 12, 2015McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U14CASL ECNL U14Maryland United FC ECNL U14Bethesda SC ECNL U14FC Virginia ECNL U14Richmond United ECNL U14September 13, 2015FC Virginia ECNL U14CASL ECNL U14
2015 REGION 1 FALL CHAMPION'S LEAGUEGirls U14 Girls DivisionBEADLING SC ELITE FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02
CASL should kill McLeanMcLean couldnt even beat that weak Frederick team:)
I love playoffs!Especially when the Mets are involved, go Mets!!!
PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02 Who is that? Where are they from??
Perfect Touch is NY East
NY Cup champs over Levittown Supersonics
NY Cup Silver flight winners, not the top flight, they are more like a town team. Just checked their history and they have 65 total GS points for winning three separate tournaments, what does that tell you?
That Frederick wasn't in those tournaments.
Is the WAGS Tournament brackets and schedule set? I see that everything is posted on there website.
Yes, schedule is out.http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=42906&GroupID=405474&Gender=Girls&Age=14
Those brackets can't be right yet, they will shuffle by Oct.
hehAlways an expert aboard wanting teams to move
Once schedules are posted it's pretty rare a tournament moves teams around. But what did you think was wrong with them?
Those won't change. Nothing crazy about the brackets.
Only mistake I see is Kings Hammer out of Kentucky being in the F3 bracket. That's pretty low for a team that's ranked #1 in their state. Any thoughts on which is the toughest bracket to come out of?
FCV is the obvious favorite in A with the best game vs Crew. B's best game will be Tri-State/Legacy. Not sure who I see winning here. FL and CASL will battle it out in C. I see FL moving on. FCV wins vs FL in final.
I see some teams in the 3rd bracket that should be switch with teams in the 2nd.
Thought F2 was pretty good call. Who would be switched to F3? FVC is the solid choice here. Toss up as far as TFA, PL or BRYC moving on from their bracket. Big question of the day is..... does the Wildcats take this one to the final?
does anyone know who is the coach for MF NPL team. Gotsoccer account's are not up to date. old pre ecnl coach or new coach.
Match Fit has two NPLs. Have to be specific.When we play them I will tell you who the coach was. Deal? Til then...... I dont know - relax, maybe?
TFA will move on. Wildcard-Crew.
Same coach the Black and Pre-ECNL teams had. Good coach, nice guy.
The MF staffing of coaches will be just as vague as the NJX-MF deal. Parent involvement on this day but not that day. Parent running team direction but telling parent group MF is running it. Then when MF sends a coach one day, it will be someone else the next day and justified with a "the girls need to hear different voices" chorus. When in fact the coach(es) lack any real connection to the players or team. To them, the players are pay checks and the teams are the conduit.2 of the current MF teams show 44 rostered players combined. You bring 18 to a game or 36 for 2 teams. What 13 year old girl needs to be one of the 6 on the back end? Are they really telling these 6..."keep trying Susie and one day you'll get on the field". This is a business of fools playing fools.
Neither one of these NJ ecnl teams have idea coaching or player situations.
But they keep attracting the best "Susies" around and will continue over the next 4 years. Don't bash you don't have a clue with your "Parent" this or different coach that. You're kids not one of the 44 and never will be.
Question is... not whether your one of the 44 players for two teams. Its whether your daughter is one of the 22 to 32 that will actually play some reasonable minuter? But at least you can keep telling your daughter "coach says your playing in the next game". But hey, she's a member of the team.
You guys are missing the point in my opinion. What makes a good team? Good players 1-18 with little to no drop off, correct? Do you really believe,these clubs are helping the top 3rd? The top 3rd can play on any team and can make a D1 program without these clubs, right? I think we all can agree on that.They are all about the middle class - how do you keep them giving 110% to help the team get to the next level at the same time developing their play?You stack your team with a bunch of mid to fringe top 3rd players some will rise to the challenge others won't, not because they can't!!! but because their parent's think there is a better road and only they know what that is if they leave.So while some players leave others come in all pushing the middle class to rise and help the team be the best that they can and maybe get some money for school.That's my 2 cents.
PS and make a few bucks while they are at it.
1024 you cannot rely on Gotsoccer for roster's and coaches for MF or any clubs belonging to an ECNL club. You see coaches and rosters on the ECNL website by choosing Member clubs and the club you are looking for. Here is Matchfit teams under U.S. Club are located on towards the bottom you will see both NPL teams their.http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/teams/club/62576988.html
9:19Very Astute. These clubs will always take care of the top 7 or 8 players. Because they can play anywhere. The rest are caught in the machine of competition. These girls caught in the middle have a different club experience than the top 8 at places like Pda And match fit. If coaches in Nj want to compete for these girls then a club like Nefc must be created here. Because we have failed to do so parents are reluctant to leave. Soccer Nut.
At Stars cup I was talking to a SS dad, and he told me that the rhetoric between the parents up there is worse than down here. The parents of NEFC, Stars of Mass, BB and SS all hate each other, and all think their program is the best. You have the 2 ECNL clubs BB and SoM bragging that ECNL is the way to go, while NEFC and SS continue to outplay them on the pitch. Someone mentioned that ECNL has better overall competition week in and week out, so with the theory when NEFC plays an ECNL team they should lose no? BTW: The NEFC coach told one of our parents that the best team they have played this year was NYSC, not FCV, or EM, or MF, or PF, or WC.
The Holmdel-NJX site used to feature the MF logo etc on the landing page, etc. No longer there. There are a few legacy teams that have MF in their name but it appears as if the MF-NJX Holmdel courtship is over. Bet on two things:1. You won't see a press release and 2. The parent coach who wanted the MF deal and then got dumped in this age group has moved to separate the club from MF but they will soft play the break-up.How long did it last?
Sat Sep 19PDA ECNL U14 vs Albertson Fury ECNL U14World Class FC ECNL U14 vs East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14 Match Fit Academy ECNL U14 vs FC Bucks ECNL U14Continental FC Delco ECNL U14 vs Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14 FC Stars of Mass ECNL U14 vs Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U14Sun Sep 20PDA ECNL U14 vs East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14World Class FC ECNL U14 vs Albertson Fury ECNL U14 Continental FC Delco ECNL U14 vs FC Bucks ECNL U14Match Fit Academy ECNL U14 vs Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14I love the below gamesPDA vs EM gameBBA vs SoMCFCD vs PF - battle for PAMF vs PF
10:17. You are correct that SS has beaten the BB this summer (one a keeper scoring in the last minute to tie). But let remember the this Breaker team had played all of 5 or 6 games together, since the current team is a combo of two teams. Lets see where they are by the end of fall. We have played both, and the Breakers technical play was much stronger and they were much more physical. And by the way, don't coach's always tell you what you want to hear?I was talking with the Wildcats coach and he told me that our team was the toughest team they faced in two years and then he sold me this great property in Florida and ..........
11:06, thanks for inspirational words, and let’s remember that NYSC has added 6 new players, and this was the first time they have played together, after 6 practices, so how do you like those banana’s??
Isn't it funny that DB is listed as the head coach for just about every MF team...Then they have a second coach listed whose investment in that team is virtual zero. And then they list the parent coach.It's like a marital circus. First the engagement ring. Then the wedding ring. Then the suffering.
11:29. You're clueless if you believe the garbage that you type. The info is bad that is on got soccer.com. Please be quiet until you actually have facts. And what you typed shows that you don't.Don't be jealous because your kid couldn't make MF.
Mf npl,better the ecnl, lol
Adding 6 new players and losing 6 is ........a matter of semantics, I guessGood luck as you gel, NYSC
Gel lol. You have to practice together along with good training first. Your right good luck with that
NYSC will gel. Sort of the way dirt and water does when you mix it together. Makes great mud pies. But who knows, maybe it'll become bricks for a great foundation to build on. And after that, a coach will say that NYSC was the ...... ever. And then he said that they ........ and ....... Then there was this one time they almost won, but the girls were not use to each other yet.
No NJ in top bracket at WAGS, I guess at EDP Cup that weekend? Makes sense, should be decent competition at that as well and local. what say all the experts about that? Why travel to W when you can travel 1-1.5 hours tops and play all top level? I guess it depends on entries really.
11:47Look at the MF site and the ECNL site and you will see DB listed as coach of many teams. Look before you yap.They give the illusion that he's involved in all of the teams. This is all about illusions. NJX created an illusion and it went bye bye. Now MF has convinced many of their illusion. How are the bottom 3 NJX players making out at MF now with 20+ teammates? They are getting no time and the mom is stewing.
It does depend on the entries 1:43. It would suck to go to Washington to play the same teams that you face all the time. But if your in a bracket that has teams from Ohio, Texas, Kentucky and such, its not a bad thing.
11:29 Speak for yourself, you must have a terrible partner!!!
Can most of you out there agree the NJX thing was old 2 months ago? It's OK to hate MF but put that one behind you. There's enough ripping on MF here that you can let that one go and add to the other MF topics. Those 3 have a great coach though. And a great group of players around them. That's my 2 cents..
1:33, hahaha, that was good, thank you!
You don't think the MFA players and parents know who is coaching their teams? Do you think they care that some website has the DOC listed as the coach? As a parent I can assure you they don't. Your fixation with that club is so transparently caused by someone they booted. In my experience the easiest way to get booted from that club is to be a problem. They don't have time for players or parents who are bad teammates. If your kid works hard and is a good teammate, and you aren't a nut, they have a place for your kid.
It's not to common for clubs to put a coach as a figure head for teams. South Shore Select does it as the coach is labeled on each high level teams for all age group as well as PF having some sort of acknowledgment the DOC is involved with each team. I also agree with 2:38 MF/NJX thing is old it's a new season and newer players on each team lets move one and I wish everyone good luck as for many this will be the last time there daughters will be playing club ball in the fall. Mr. Nice Guy!
Mr. Nice Guy? Did your wife give you that title? I like it, enjoy!
Mr. Nice Guy! Well said as there to many Mr. Mad Guys in here but yes you did point out a big factor this will be the last time my daughter will be playing Fall soccer as well and I'm going to enjoy every moment of it.
Has anybody heard anything about Crush? Very very quiet...do they still have 2 teams? Still playing tournaments? I saw they won the FC Copa last weekend, seems a far cry from FC Stars, played there for the last couple years.
Your suggesting we go to EDP Cup and play the same teams we play in league play?Don't think so, our team looks forward to seeing new teams from out of state and region and on our team the players and parents enjoy the weekends away together.
1. NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS2. SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITENEXT 18 NO ORDERWAGS F1CESC CALVERT-ELITE CREWOAKWOOD SCBRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITEPENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14FC FREDERICK '01PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01PWSI COURAGE 01G REDWAGS F2NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLNOT @ WAGSSTA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01NEW YORK SC G011776 UNITED FC XTREMEGPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02PENN FUSION SA '01G NPLFC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECTMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONSWho did I miss besides PDA AJAX, EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER, FCV United and one of the CFC teams?
EDP Open Cup Projected F1 = 9,000 GS points21 (1%) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 0128 (1%) NEW YORK SC G0146 (1%) JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION59 (2%) SJEB '01G NPL90 (2%) PIPELINE BLACK103 LAGRANGE RAGE109 GPS NJ FLASH U14G ELITE127 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G135 BEACHSIDE SC CT144 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA145 SDFC SAMBA157 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01
8:45I too enjoy seeing the girls play against teams that our not in our leagues and from other states. And who doesn't enjoy a weekend getaway.
Crush checked outThey havent been treated well here2 teams, yes, is what I see. Second team is in EDP second flight
Has ANYONE ever really been treated well here??
The crush team that won at copa was the second team - the first team is now called tsunami npl.
Not us, and we love everyone!
7:55By here, what do you mean? Are you talking about this blog? Because no one is ever treated badly on this blog. Our own comments are treated with rational thinking and fair and objection reactions to those comments. No one here holds any grudges or carries a dislike or disdain for another team due to bad losses or poor sportsmanship during games. This is as close as it gets to a Utopian society. Don't ask such stupid questions.
Sep 20th Match up - Jersey Shore Boca @ Penn LegacyDoes Boca take this one?
Sorry, didn't realize that Boca's first victim is Calvert on the 14th. Looks like NJ's most technical team will be off to a 2-0 start.
Is NJ's most technical team still using guest players at tournaments?
Its not against the rules and it gives the guest players to see how soccer should be played.
If they play less than everyone else or do they play more than others kids on the team so the team can get the result?
NJ's most technical team? That seems improbable, since the ECNL teams still play send-it soccer. Is there any video proof of said technical play??
The last tournament I witnessed that they played in, the most technical team in NJ had 2 very good players in their lineup that played 90% of the game. Post game, I spoke to a Boca parent who's kid played most of the game and asked about it... He said: "This is a sore point, the parents and the kids are not happy about this"I know for a 100% fact, that one of the 'guest' players was never, ever going there to play. just to help them win.
8:15, you realize how ridiculous that sounds, right? A u14 ringer, just to win a tournament, I guess its possible, but if so, is just plain sad.
Boca also sends their best players to guest with NJCSA Elite in NPL games, NPL playoff games and some tournaments if Boca doesn't enter that event.They also have a roster of 25 players.It seems a Quid Pro Quo between the parent coaches of Boca and NJCSA Elite.The 2 parent coaches kids play pretty much the whole game for both teams though.
8:15 - NJ's most technical team does it, and does it regularly... while paying, rostered kids sit and watch...
Yes, those 2 teams are latest examples of why parent run/coached teams are to be avoided at all costs if your plauyer aspires to be an elite player.Sooner or later nepotism rears its ugly head(usually sooner rather than later) and sometimes even without realizing it the program is run by the parent coach to benefit the coaches child and decisions are influenced by this factor more than whats best for the other members of the team.Watch how these decisions about bringing in guests and ouside players for big games/playoff games/ tournaments never seem to affect the playing time of the parent coaches kids(Coincidently the outside "Ringers" never seem to play the same postion as the coaches kids).
When NJ most technical team goes 2-0 in the next couple weeks, then we'll hear a different tune. Watch and learn fellas
Elite Clubs National League 2015-20160 McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U142 CASL ECNL U14NPL Northeast Girls League 2015-166 PDA South 01 NPL0 East Meadow SC 01 NPL
Northeast NPL...keep trying to sell that "tough competition week in, week out" line. Ajax 6-0 over East Meadow sounds like a nail biter.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of history are bound to repeat them. The Freehold coach gives up his team to Wildcats and gets dumped as "coach". The NJX coach gives up her team to MFA and gets dumped as "coach". What did these coaches think they were signing up for?What was their reaction when they learned they were being played the fool?Yesterdays news some of you will say. Not so.Today and tomorrow many players being sold this same baloney and for sure tomorrow there will be another coach who does a deal with Wildcats or MFA and get dumped soon after left to scratch their heads.The Doobie Brothers had a great hit..."What a Fool Believes".
EDP 1st Division Central 1 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK4 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSNYCSL NPL 2015-20161 Match Fit NPL-01 aka (MF NPL BLACK 01)0 NY Rush NPL-01 (aka CT RUSH SOUTHWEST)Elite Clubs National League 2015-20166 FC Virginia ECNL U140 Richmond United ECNL U140 Maryland United FC ECNL U141 Bethesda SC ECNL U14
NYCSL NPL 2015-20164 New York SC NPL-011 Quickstrike FC NPL-01
It is amazing how far the Ukrainians have fallen since being one of the better 8v8 teams during the U10-U11 years. There was truly a team that was all about winning and not development of players at that level. On the PA side, FC Revolution and the Ukrainians probably were hurt the most by having a win first directive.
7:59 PA Guy or PA Dude or PA Someone elseIs that because they didn't develop or because players left for PF, FC Bucks or CFC or other teams?In my opinion the teams that were good when they were younger that are not good now is usually because of turnover either at their team or the teams that are beating them. This Ukranian team tied the NJ Wildcats in RCL league play who crushed LVU in EDP league play. What gives? Did one lose players or did one add players?
NYCSL NPL 2015-20160 PSA NPL-01 (aka PRINCETON SA IGFA 01-02 NPL)1 STA NPL-01
The Ukrainians still have their same top players they've had since U9 so it's not that. Their current coach is in her 3rd year with them now. Doesn't seem to be doing a great job from the looks of it.
It is the illusion of development perpetrated by those whose wish to make a buck off of those parents that are ignorant about the skills needed for future success. It is essentially a canned club formula at the younger ages that focus on winning with some very good athletes in key small sided positions.The club wins and keeps the parents happy while advertising "best in GS" at the early ages, which in turn attract more parents willing to pay for more winning until reality hits at about u14. All of a sudden the party is over.These clubs feast on parents ignorance.WorldClass suffered from this disease, so did NJX, so does Wildcats. Now these teams can barely put a pass together.Parents are left scratching their heads trying to figure out what happened. And the clubs are blaming it on the players.
NYCSL NPL 2015-20162 NJ Crush FC NPL-010 NJ Stallions NPL-01NPL WESTPTS (GP) GD - Team3 (1) +2 NJ Crush FC NPL-013 (1) +1 Match Fit Academy NPL-013 (1) +1 STA NPL-010 (1) -1 New York Rush NPL-010 (1) -1 Princeton SA NPL-010 (1) -2 NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01NPL EAST3 (1) +3 New York Soccer Club NPL-010 (1) -3 Quickstrike FC NPL-01
8:27 is correct. The Ukranians do still have the same top players they had on the small sided fields. And they still seem to have good athletes on the team. It just seems once they get down (even a goal), they don't have any fight left. We play them a lot and their parents and players are really good people, just seems like a whole different mindset from 2 years ago. Still feel they could be a very good team.PL Parent
Thanks PL parent - so from the sounds of things and the early beat down this LVU team might have improved from last year and might give the NJ Wildcats a run for their money in the Spring when results really matter and a spot at the NPL finals is up for grabs. The rest of the EDP NPL is a little foggy in regards to the clubs that will participate. Again the assumption is this age group for LVU joins the other teams from the club and participates based on last year.The NYCSL NPL West looks like it might be closer than most thought or at least from what I thought. I expected STA to win by more than 1 coming off of FC Stars playing what appears to be teams not as strong. Hey NYSC guy you must excited as we are only one game into a long season but it looks good for the girls so far.PDA Ajax guy - team had a good showing yesterday and now have an early season battle vs a very hot PF NPL - this game will go a long way to determine the league's top 4 - as 5 teams will battle for 4 spots or maybe 6 FC Stars NPL might be #6.VA guy - today is match day 2 for the league - let's see how FCV does in their attempt to defend their title this year.CT dude - not sure what club you are with and it doesn't matter just keep giving updates. NEFC looks to repeat and defend their title while GPS, Seacoast and Oakwood try to take it away. Today's GPS vs Oakwood game goes along way.RCL looks a little light for the fall - not sure how this plays into the pro/rel and Spring season only time will tell.ECNL people enjoy the ride as it starts this year with ECNL Showcase events playoffs, Finals and major non-ecnl tournaments for some.
Wow 9:51, whatever you put in coffee, can you send me some? Its a long season, and team is beginning the long mud-pie process, and as you know, when you make mud-pies, you have to get your hands a little dirty.Cheers!
Of Course it's along season - EDP, NYCSL, VA NPL look wide open.The NorthEast Girls NPL has PDA North, South, MF NPL, CFC, PF NPL and maybe FC Stars, when only 4 make the playoffs every game is a playoff game when they play each other week 1 or week 20. That's why today's PDA South (Ajax) vs PF NPL is huge.Same goes in the New England NPL, since NEFC is a force Oakwood, GPS & Seacoast can't drop 2 or 3 points when they play each other,they need the full 3 so you can preach it's a long season all that you want you know what I say is true, these teams will beat up on the others and won't drop any games it's just a matter of how many they will score and for this reason the Oakwood vs GPS game is also huge.NYCSL NPL people did you guys get word if the crossover cup will be used again this year since their are already 16 NPLS at u14?
No official word on Crossover Cup, if it happens, it will be a spring event, I think.
NYCSL NPL 2015-20161 Manhattan SC NPL-01 1 Massapequa SC NPL-010 Brentwood SC NPL-014 Intense SA NPL-01Week 1 is in the books. While we all agree that the race to claim the league title is not a sprint it's a marathon. I'm still going to post my stupid commnets. This year the league is using a different format and they are using playoffs, I hate playoffs just for the record. STA the defending champion started their campaign with what appears to be an unimpressive win but it's still 3 points. As we still don't have official word (thanks 1:36) on the crossover cupi won't touch that. Good luck and enjoy.NPL WESTPTS (GP) GD - Team3 (1) +2 NJ Crush FC NPL-013 (1) +1 Match Fit Academy NPL-013 (1) +1 STA NPL-010 (1) -1 New York Rush NPL-010 (1) -1 Princeton SA NPL-010 (1) -2 NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01NPL EAST3 (1) +4 Intense SA NPL-013 (1) +3 New York Soccer Club NPL-011 (1) +0 Manhattan SC NPL-01 1 (1) +0 Massapequa SC NPL-010 (1) -3 Quickstrike FC NPL-010 (1) -4 Brentwood SC NPL-01
NPL Northeast Girls League 2015-164 PDA South 01 NPL 2 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPLWith this league's first week alsoin the books, PDA South starts it's season with 6 and 3 came from PF NPL in the league's first big game of the season (2nd game of the season)6 (2) +8 PDA South 01 NPL (NJ) 1 (0) -2 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL (PA)1 (0) -6 East Meadow SC 01 NPL (NY)
Ok, can we stop no with the PF NPL team being considered anything more than what it is. A "B" team that might have 3 or 4 starters (mid level at the extreme) that would start for others "A" teams. Not looking to tear into them, just can't live with a mud pie being called a brick.
2:34 You can call them what ever you want. Last year they were given a gift and advanced to the NorthEast girls NPL post season (I hate playoffs no matter how write it) but they held their own vs the league champions PDA North 1-0 and 1-0 vs PDA South. So yes in a league full of "B" teams they are very much alive. And yes this "B" team is fighting for a spot at a National Event give PF something no other PA team can say - It hurts I know - I can read it in your post. Oh yeah they can give 36 players @ u14 a shot at a National Event ECNL/NPL. Can YMS or PAC or any other PA team say that? CFC Delco and FC Bucks can but their teams are not in the conversation for league titles.
2:34 oh yeah these B teams battled STA, NJ Wildcats, NEFC and other "A" teams for a National Title. Let me guess, if your kid played for PDA Storm and they were cut you would rather move them to STA and NJ Wildcats (A teams) rather than play for the B team Dragons who beat both those teams and advanced to the NPL finals with both those teams but were the only one to advance to the semi-finals or if they got cut from MF ECNL to play for MF NPL who happened to win the NJ Cup and advanced to the National Cup also to play NEFC in the FinalI can see PF becoming the PA version of NJ's PDA/MF. But what do I know besides GS.Now back to some more scoresSome EDP Scores1st Division North2 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '021 NJCSA ELITE1st Division South0 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA1 HFC READY '012 BETHESDA STORM 013 PIPELINE BLACK
1st Division South1 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION4 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE
Are we talking about a "B" team national event? Sort of like the Special Olympics of soccer? Hey, I'm all for that since I have a niece that is involved in such. Congrats to all those teams and remember that your soccer players too. I think participation trophies are fine, go NPL.
You calling NEFC a "B" team? I guess we know how much you travel and your background.PDA B team played NEFC in semi-final of National Event (NPL finals)MF B team played NEFC in final of US Club Soccer National Cup
Some more scores - Sorry but I love the guy that puts down B teams. Probably the same guy who that claims the ECNL is not the top league and PAGS and EDP are equal if not better just look at GS.NPL Virginia Fall 20155 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION0 CHESTERFIELD UNITED FCNew England Girls NPL Fall 20150 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL4 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/02EDP 1st Division Central0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
Wrong on that one Zippy. ECNL is absolutely the top tier in Soccer right now. And other than maybe two teams, PAGS is barely above "B" level. You guys just hate having to hear that your little Jenny might be playing along side some other little Jenny's, who just happen to be a little bit slower and have a little less skill than some others. Not a big deal though, she's still playing soccer and make the "A" team someday. And if not, so what. You have enjoyed watching her play all those years and at most the money spent might have bought a nice boat, who needs that.
Not sure about that skippy. I just pointed out some facts. You didn't answer the question are you saying NEFC is a B team? I think you are the one that can't deal with players opting to play for B teams rather than play for you or with your kid and the fact that you still post the same stuff you did last year is comical.NPL Virginia Fall 20153 (2) +4 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION3 (1) +3 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB3 (1) +1 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB3 (1) +1 FC VIRGINIA3 (1) +1 VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER1 (1) +0 CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION1 (1) +0 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER1 (1) +0 FC UNITED 1 (2) -5 CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC0 (1) -1 RICHMOND KICKERS0 (1) -1 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB0 (1) -3 NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB New England Girls NPL Fall 20153 (1) +4 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/020 (1) -4 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL
When are the SC brackets out?
Wow Ramapo posts a big EDP win over NJCSA Elite.
way to go Boca. make Calverts parents drive 4 hours for a blowout.
Boca and NJCSA both playing on same day didn't allow them to combine players on 1 team like they usually do and you see the results.
EDP 1st Division South1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME 0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDEREDP 1st Division South3 (1) +3 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE3 (1) +1 PIPELINE BLACK3 (1) +1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME 3 (1) +1 HFC READY '010 (1) -1 BETHESDA STORM 010 (1) -1 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER0 (1) -1 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA0 (1) -3 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION 0 (0) +0 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
Boca and njcsa lol really ... Both coaches on these teams are jokes ... Very unethical guys lol ... They fit right in parents fall for there bs ... Jokes on them .
2 peas in a pod. Both very average teams at best.
Boca trying to move up and play higher level teams, takes time. They have some skill but defense and gk very poor against any kind of speed. Defenders small and pushed off ball easily. Takes time to move up and compete, they will need many adjustments. But, Calvert a team to watch out for!!!
Funny guy Skippy.
5:58 pm stop, just stop. I know for a fact that BOCA has a 16 or 17 girl roster and does NOT use anyone for league play EVER. they had various injuries last year and used ONE player from NJSCA who is a friend of players on team for a tourney; never league. Not sure why you are even attacking BOCA? They are a small south NJ team trying to learn and challenging themselves to compete with higher level teams vs chase points. It won't come right away but imo better they get blown out by good teams then blow out town teams. They have good parents, good coaches, and respectful players. Identify yourself so we can analyze your team too please.
1st Division North2 HBC SPARK2 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY1st Division Central0 REAL SOUNDERS3 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE0 PDA SHORE FUSION2 SJEB '01G NPL 3 (1) +3 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS3 (1) +3 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE3 (1) +3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL3 (1) +2 SJEB '01G NPL0 (1) -2 PDA SHORE FUSION0 (1) -3 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK0 (1) -3 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA0 (1) -3 REAL SOUNDERS
8:49 Don't worry, nobody takes anything to seriously on here (except nippy the "B" team parent). I respect the fact that Boca is willing to push their players to perform at a higher level. They have PL next week, so it should be another good challenge for them. Its not only good for the players, but good for the parents as well.
Had to look at some game history. This is best part and common sense way to see and review teams performance. BOCA has beaten. PDA shore, SJEB, NJCSA, HFC Ready, Ramapo within last 6 months. Same team. No guest players for these past matches mentioned. And the first 4 were shut outs. Ramapo was 4-1. So they belong in D1 unless feeling is all 5 of these teams don't? Calvert is 12 in nation they are very good. Next week boca plays PL. as far as parent coaches it is true and sad and causes issues. Eventually the parent has to back off or move player. Slick is perfect example leaving GFA as coach and handing off to MF/PDA- national team.
8:49 - I think your BOCA team is getting crap here is because one of your parents/coaches is calling them "NJ's most technical team". He's asking for it. Not sure what that person is thinking, that's a clear target for anyone who ever read this blog.
You are correct 9:24. Those five teams are D1 in some leagues, just never F1 in any tournaments. Nice win by the Wildcats this weekend. Really validated the standing of the NPL teams that beat them.
10:08pm. I would agree. However, I'm pretty certain when I say that is not a Boca parent or coach but rather just somebody trying to stir the pot.
NOt 1 but a few players from Boca team including coaches daughter played with NJCSA Elite in NPL games and they each use guests from each other in some tournaments as you yourself just admitted.Whether they are friends of some of the players on the other team as you say is not the point. Whether it was "only" 1 guest player was not the point.Guest players at this level take playing time and starting spots from players who are paying a lot of money and dedicating a lot of time to play on a team at this level. It also skews the results and rankings if done regularly as your 2 teams do. Also as the earlier poster pointed out the trading of players always includes the 2 parent coaches kids playing for the other team and again this is a quid pro quo, why, because each parent coach takes care of the other teams parent coaches kid( much playing time for the other teams coach's kid when they guest).And of course this is all at the expense of the regular players on the team who usually get the playing time at that position.And you are correct this is much more the case of the Boca coaches kid and other Boca players playing with NJCSA than the other way around, but NJCSA has over 20 players and no amount of injuries would leave them with a need for all those outside guests for NPL games/events.
NPL doesnt allow guest players
Your right 10:39. And PDA Ajax never uses other players during tournaments. Lies, lies, all lies.
But those are two totally unrelated situations, everyone uses guest players, except my daughters team.
"Also as the earlier poster pointed out the trading of players always includes the 2 parent coaches kids playing for the other team and again this is a quid pro quo, why, because each parent coach takes care of the other teams parent coaches kid( much playing time for the other teams coach's kid when they guest)."I do not know why any kid would play for a parent coach.At this point it is beyond my comprehension Even at the highest levels Parent coaches favor their kids and always put the team in jeopardy.Ever notice what positions these parent coaches put their kids in. It is always in the middle of the field.Any player that plays for a team that has a parent coach deserves the consequences.
Is there a list anywhere for the teams in the Discovery Cup?
I appreciate how the organizers of the State Cup are allowing for sufficient time to schedule games for this coming weekend. Come on already! If we're playing Saturday I'd like to know who, when and where before Saturday.
11;10, sounds like your little Mary was cut by one of these "parent coaches". Do you not realize at this age, even the "parent coached" teams have trainers who do all of the training, and during games these "parent" coaches should have enough knowledge to get through a game. Also, have you noticed most of the parent coached teams, the coaches daughter is one of the best girls on the team. I guess the coach has some idea of what they are doing. So again 11:10 poster just because your precious daughter probably was cut by a "coach" who is not a paid trainer, sorry you feel this way. What are you going to do when your daughter does not get the playing time you like in HS. Where that coach is probably less qualified than any "parent" coach.
11:46 is a "parent coach" and is extremely offended. His daughter will play where he thinks she is best fit to showcase her skill set. Doesn't he give enough time to the team to deserve this? After all, how could he explain anything else to mommy when the day is done?
"Also, have you noticed most of the parent coached teams, the coaches daughter is one of the best girls on the team. I guess the coach has some idea of what they are doing. " lmfao That is hysterical.
While you are technically correct that NPL doesn't allow guest players, NJCSA and Boca have gotten around this as Boca is not an NPL Club/Team so the coaches kid and a few others from Boca are carded to Boca Team for EDP games and state cup and carded to NJCSA Elite for NPL games. The Boca parent coach recipricates by allowing the NJCSAj parent coaches kid to guest withg Bioca so "she can play with her friends". This allows the 2 coaches daughters to play often the whole game for both teams, while the regulars who play the EDP league, State Cup, etc. games for NJCSA give uip their position/playing time for NPL games for Boca kids while Boca regulars step aside for tournaments when NJCSA coaches daughter guests with Boca.Really don't see your point of "parent coaches daughters are usually the best players so the parent coach must know what they are doing". The point is most plarents will find a way to use their power and control as coaches to benefit their daughters, even at others expense and this is the situation we have here.That is why at this level parent coaches are discouraged.There is just too much time and money invested at the elite level as compared to town teams/clubs where often there is no interest in spending the money necessary to hire a full time paid professional coach for all the training and games.
Boca is having something happen that never if rarely happens to their club, they have a top 10 team, at any age. I think some of the boys side had some success, however to be ranked within top 10 at Boca is rare. At Boca you have an unusual sample of parent coach, coach is highly qualified, played semi-pro, is well involved in the league. I understand all the previous posts about not having a parent coach and how it can harm others. I think it really depends on who the player is on the team with the kid. It may not matter to most of the players, while only mattering to few minority. Same with the guest issue, if you are using guest players legally, who cares, US Club allows it for some reason. If Boca players feel slighted they should just leave or bring it up with coach, it is that easy. If they begin to lose playing time, just leave, plenty of places to play, remember, my daughter has to be happy, that is the key. Just ask them on the next 2 hour car ride, talk with them, make them open up, be a great parent. If she is happy leave it alone, if not fight to the death.
You are right on the mark 12:53. Anybody allowing their kid to be coached by a parent coach from this point on is asking for problems and heartache. Asking a coach to disregard his kids best interest for the sake of the team would require a totally selfless person. Not many of them around and certainly not at the higher levels. The person that stated that the parent coaches kid is the best player "so he must know something", deserves that coach. What a dumb statement.
1146. So tired of our parent coach. Pda has one and it is an awful situation when he is on the side line.
11:46 In high school you cannot decide who the coach is, qualified or not. That rule does not apply when it comes to club ball. Your are correct in that most middle school and high school coaches are not the most qualified, simply qualified because their work schedule allows them to be at the school at 3pm to start practice. It is the number one qualification of all high school coaches and first question asked when applying for the job (can you be there at 3pm). Having one that can teach some technical skill and know how formation changes affect the game, is sauce for the goose.PL Parent
haha.. PDA has about 18 parent coaches screaming direction at every game.
Anonymous said...haha.. PDA has about 18 parent coaches screaming direction at every game.September 14, 2015 at 2:10 PMBut those mom's are soooooooooo good looking. Are YOU going to be the one to tell them to be quiet???
Not sure if this has been touched on re parent coaching but a huge element to whether a parent coach can be a good situation is if the player of the parent coach is a top tier player among those teammates. If she is, then there is little to no need for favortism. You also are less likely to be victimized by the parent coach of a weak player who spends her time looking for the fault in other players to in some way say "see, other kids are not good too. Not just my kid." This is a very common coaching flaw with parent coaches whose own kids are weak and it served to be the ill that killed one very prominent team in this age group among other reasons.
3:56 Even a top tier player of a parent coach gets preferential treatment... PK's. corners, playing time, players in other positions 'coached' to get little Susie the ball. In no instance is this a good situation, spin it anyway you want.
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