Thursday, January 23, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

NJX will be lucky to be a finalist at FC Stars

Anonymous said...

EDP schedule is up. Really confusing. Don't see any NPL games. FSA Navy is in second division. Crush Tsunami isn't in any division, but has 4 crossover games.

Anonymous said...

6:51 EDP schedule isn't official until it's been published on there web page for a reason they are working on it.

Maybe what you see is the final product maybe it isn't. I though EDL is in the Spring and they split the teams up into two groups and play something like 4 games to determine their champs. You can only guess when the info is hard to find. I like the NYCSL web page - you can break down their NPL very easily. They play over 20 games - NE Girls NPL plays over 20 games - EDL plays 5 - something is wrong with this picture I agree.

Anonymous said...

Thanks captain obvious. It is published on "their" web page.

Anonymous said...

Oh-oh, the spelling cop is on the board, everyone hide.

Anonymous said...

Uh-oh

Anonymous said...

Luck?

I am hoping for competitive games. You may have never played the game. Soccer is a game of luck, mistakes and breakdowns. In a competitive tournament, any team can beat anyone. So yes I say getting to the finals in a major tournament requires some luck on your side.

Anonymous said...

i agree... anyone can win that thing. There are some dark horses in each bracket that can go on a run. You never know.

Anonymous said...

Delco Njx win over Crush was U11

You got hammered last year by West Chester and Breakers after not finishing for the title at U11

Anonymous said...

Cats or PDA wins Spirits

Anonymous said...

I think you did great at State Cup, by the way....though you almost coughed it up to 'm force

Just no need to take down other Jersey teams on a blog.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't that the last time they played in a game against each other? Think that was the point of the post. Were you at the friendly? If you were, I would find it hard to believe that you would be pumping your chest..... Good luck.

Anonymous said...

Wags has like 3 tough teams..... PA teams not near as strong as NJ and MA. Stars and spirit are both much deeper in talent than wags.

Anonymous said...

"PA teams not near as strong as NJ and MA"

Not near as strong? What are you basing that on?

If the four best in PAE are PF, PL, 1776, and Ukrainians, here are the most recent results playing against "good" NJ/MA teams:

1776/Nether: no recent results
Ukrainians: no recent results
PL: tied Rage 2-2 in April (presumably this is the old Rage team)
PF: tied Boston 1-1 and defeated NJX 2-0 at Delco Tourney

I don't see how you can look at that and say "not nearly as strong".

And as far as WAGS goes, I'm not sure I get your point about PA teams not being strong considering PF is the only PAE team in the top bracket.

Anonymous said...

"Were you at the friendly?"

Yes.

I have given NJX proper respect. Pulling for them vs Charlton next week.

Anonymous said...

If you go purely by the Gotsoccer National rank (which we know is not without flaws), the tournament ranking for top brackets would be:

Event Avg Nat'l rank
STARS 22.25
SPIRIT 46.42
WAGS 52.08

Spirit and Wags are close, but Stars is clearly top.

Anonymous said...

DELETE POSTS ADMIN

Anonymous said...

oh no.. you just wasted a post with that "delete posts admin" post...

blog closing down in 4

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Did crazy cat step down as head coach or did someone hack gs and put a pic of a new guy up for fun?

Anonymous said...

Match Fit Blue in S t a u14 isn't N J X, is it?

Anonymous said...

Good look at S t a and Match Black tomorrow in Modification

Anonymous said...

WOW, about time. This is site is live again. Delete more posts!

Anonymous said...

Saw wildkittens at spirit. not much improved. not as good. play defensive. no real threat going forward. will struggle to score.

Anonymous said...

Some good games when the NPL kicks off next week.

U13 Pre-ECNL
9/6/14
Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

9/7/14
Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

U13 NE Girls NPL
9/6/14
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPL
Continental FC 01 NPL vs Albertson SC 01 NPL
FC Bucks 01 NPL vs World Class FC 01 NPL
Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPL

9/7/14
FC Bucks 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPL
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs World Class FC 01 NPL
Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs Albertson SC 01 NPL
Continental FC 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPL

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

U13 NYCSL NPL (Week 1)
09/07/2014
New York SC NPL-01 vs STA NPL-01
NY Rush NPL-01 vs Quickstrike FC NPL-01
Brentwood YSC NPL-01 vs Intense SA NPL-01
Manhattan SC NPL-01 vs Massapequa SC NPL-01

Mr. NPL

Anonymous said...

Top 10 GS Rankings with re-vised points going away after this weekend going in this weekend’s tournaments. GS Rankings no longer about teams chasing points. With EDP giving points and PreEcnl + NPL getting points if GS can Identify the team. This a much more accurate Ranking system. MF played up in a weak Flight only getting 300 points from GS. Pre-ECNL teams will enjoy lost of points from GS at the end of the season.

1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (23,660)
2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (20,274)
3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (16,906)
4 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL (14,923)
5 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (14,355)
6 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (12,893)
7 NJCSA GALAXY (12,544)
8 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (11,403)
9 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (9,812)
10 PDA DRAGONS (8,305)

MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (6,577)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

1 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (16,774)
2 ATLETICOGU13 (13,650)
3 ISA 01 NPL (13,157) - Combined 2 NPL Blue Points -I think they have a 3rd
4 NEW YORK SC G01 (12,728)
5 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (10,675)
6 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (8,866)
7 SACHEM SPEED (8,276)
8 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (7,449)
9 MASSAPEQUA HURRICANES (5,200)
10 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (4,805)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

1 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL (15,940)
2 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (14,865)
3 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (10,542)
4 FC REVOLUTION FORCE (10,091)
5 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (9,609)
6 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (8,700)
7 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (8,416)
8 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (7,722)
9 1776 UNITED XTREMES (6,507)
10 LDC UNITED ATTACK (4,058)

Anonymous said...

What happened to PDA Ajax at Spirit? I thought they were going to win? Not looking good huh? Any new girls on team? Did not seem to be same team.

Anonymous said...

In Spirit top group
Crew Juniors won over Penn Legacy.

Wildcats tied the eventual finalist 1-1, had 2T 1 L
Ajax was 2w 1L
Penn Fusion was 2W 1L
Penn Legacy was 1W 2T 1L

Other Penn teams seem to struggle

Anonymous said...

Beautiful morning here in MA. Great day for soccer.

Anonymous said...

I took the GS NJ Rankings one step further. Instead of just accumulation - Below is he AVG GS pts per event they played in. Let's ee how this changes after the FC Stars Pt's get credited.

AVG GS Points per event - Team - (No Events)

3943.33 PDA STORM (6)
2487.17 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL (6)
2027.40 PDA AJAX (10)
1690.60 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (10)
1661.00 PDA DRAGONS (5)
1611.63 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (8)
1595.00 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (9)
1564.50 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (4)
1425.38 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (8)
1140.36 NJCSA GALAXY (11)
1090.22 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (9)

Anonymous said...

Just noticed MF ECNL/NPL + PDA Storm/Dragons played in 21 events between all 4 teams.

While PDA Ajax and Wildcats played in 20.

It looks like the NJ South teams live by GS

Which do you prefer, as a parent?

While more games helps soccer IQ, is it better to play 30 to 40 Tournament games plus another 20 league games in a season VS. 20 -15 Tournament Games plus 20 league games? If the Tuition is the same you get more games for your money if you play in more events for sure. But that goes against the USSF/DA 3:1 Training to game ratio.

Which do you believe is better?

As a parent I like the more games, but from a player development side the closer you are to 3:1 training to game ratio the better it is for our kids.

I guess I want my cake and I want to eat it.

Anonymous said...

Another thing I noticed the EDP teams will drop a bunch of points next week when their EDP points go away,

AVG GS Points per event - Team - (No Events)
2795.67 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (6)
2730.00 ATLETICOGU13 (5)
2216.50 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (4)
2192.83 ISA 01 NPL (6) - Combined 2 NPL Blue Points -I think they have a 3rd
2135.00 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (5)
2069.00 SACHEM SPEED (4)
1818.29 NEW YORK SC G01 (7)
1489.80 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (5)
1300.00 MASSAPEQUA HURRICANES (4)
600.63 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (8)

Anonymous said...

As you can see with NYCSL NPL & PL leagues getting points it has increased the GS Ranking points for the NYE east teams increasing their point accumulation.

Like I said with leagues like EDP, NYCSL PL, NYCSL NPL, NE NPL and Pre-ECNL all getting points if they can marry the teams with the leagues I think has given GS a lot more creditability - now they just have to figure away to not reward teams for chasing GS points which kind of goes against them making money.

Anonymous said...

AVG GS Points per event - Team - (No Events)
2277.14 1 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL (7)
1651.67 2 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (9)
1441.57 4 FC REVOLUTION FORCE (7)
1317.75 3 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (8)
1242.86 6 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (7)
1202.29 7 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (7)
965.25 8 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (8)
960.90 5 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES (10)
929.57 9 1776 UNITED XTREMES (7)
579.71 10 LDC UNITED ATTACK (7)

Anonymous said...

7/11 Looked better than Wildcats.

Anonymous said...

I took the top 10 teams from NYE, NJ and PAE below is the association's GS pt avg per event with number of events in ( )

1934.77 NYE (54)
1914.62 NJ (77)
1256 .87 PAE (77)

Anonymous said...

Live blog...FC Stars 1 MF NE NPL 0
2nd half

Anonymous said...

MF turning it up here in the late stages. Some great chances.

Anonymous said...

Penn Legacy is much better than Penn Fusion. Watch the game and they completely dominated them. Wildcats looked good against Calvert and Penn but then looked slow and outplayed against Ajax. Looked like two different teams. Must be the coaching.

Anonymous said...

Some Early FINALS from FC Stars

FC STARS OF MASS ECNL 1
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 3

NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 0
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS 1

BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL 5 NEW YORK SC G01 1

PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 0 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 2

Anonymous said...

Final..1-0 FC Stars MF many chances

Anonymous said...

11:52 Hard to say anything against that last 2 events


5-1 Win vs Penn Fusion
3-0 Win vs Athletico
1-1 Draw NJ Wildcats
1-1 Draw Calvert.

Region 1 will have a strong team this spring for sure with National League a strong possibility if they still play like this in the spring.

PA guy, if Penn Legacy and PA Classics merged their girls program would they be better than PennFusion, FC Continental & FC Bucks across all ages. I know they have a D2 Semi-Pro team in WPSL, can ECNL or NPL be in the future?

Anonymous said...

The further we get into the 2014/2015 season the more GS rankings will correct themselves. Below are the GS points to go away after 9/7/14 (2013 EDP Fall + NY State Cup). Penn Legacy will be the PA number 1 unless Penn Fusion gets some points this week or next week. NYSC, TSF and PDA Ajax will take a big hit also if they come up empty at FC Stars

6962 NEW YORK SC G01
3088 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
3058 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL
2930 SABA BROOKLYN CITY
2578 ATLETICOGU13
2247 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G
2066 NJCSA GALAXY
1547 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
1335 ISA 01 NPL / INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMY NPL-01 BLUE (only NPL pts deducted)
1154 MASSAPEQUA HURRICANES
705 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM
703 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
668 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL
628 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL
506 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON

Anonymous said...

TSF losing 4-2

Anonymous said...

Love the FC Stars Live Updates. Wish your kid Good Luck!!

FC STARS OF MASS ECNL 1
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 3

NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 0
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS 1

BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL 5
NEW YORK SC G01 1

PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 0
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 2

A2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK 4
TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 3

FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 0
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON 1

FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED 1
MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPL 0

SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 0
BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 0

Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the world class/STA game last week. Seems like a surprise win for STA.

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Anonymous said...

FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-NPL 2
ROCKY HILL CFC WOLVES 1

FC MASS U13 GIRLS SOUTH 1
WESTERN UNITED PIONEERS FC RED 2

NEFC SC UNITED U13 GIRLS 2
FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 2

FSA FC U13 GIRLS NAVY 0
CT RUSH SOUTHWEST 01/02 0

CFC WEST ORANGE 6
REVOLUTION UNITED 01 GIRLS 0

Anonymous said...

WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM 0
MERCER FC SPURS 0

NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI WHITE 3
GLOBAL PREMIER SOCCER NH CLASSICS ELITE 4

NSU 01/02-BETTENCOURT 5
FC WESTCHESTER ELITE 02 PREMIER 1

FC STARS OF MASS NPL 1
PTUSA FC COASTAL IMPACT 1

ALBERTSON FURY '01 3
BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE 1

BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 NPL 1
STARS OF MASS NH UNITED 0

Anonymous said...


BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL 3 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 2

PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 6
NEW YORK SC G01 0

FC STARS OF MASS ECNL 1
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS 2

NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 0
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 3


PDA Ajax, NJ Crush and NYSC when playing teams other than themselves W0, L5, T0, GF1, GA8.

PDA Ajax can get some GS points with a win over South Shore tomorrow NJ Crush and NYSC are eliminated.

East Meadow vs NEFC winner will play Boston Breakers for the grand prize.

Anonymous said...

Some more scores.
MF also on the outside need a win vs Bayside and a Seacoast loss to finish in the top 4 which might not get them a lot of GS pts either.

World Class with a win can put them in a great spot to play FC Stars of Mass North - I guess this is the Region 1 team for FC Stars? TSF with a win keep them alive as well for some GS points.

FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED 2
BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 0

SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 1
MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPL 1

Anonymous said...

2:52 Worldclass is simply awful. For real? Compared to who?

I think they started the 2014/2015 season okay.
W5, L1, T0, GF17, GA5


A2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL) 3-2
FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED (MA) 1-0
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 2-3
PDA DRAGONS (NJ) 1-0
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 W (NJ) 6-0
WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER (NJ) 4-0

Anonymous said...

World Class with an impressive comeback. Down 2-0 in first half and won it 2-3..MF NE NPL 1-1 draw in second game.

Guess the tournament directors weren't crazy.

Anonymous said...

Tragedy in south jersey today when four girls headed to charity tournament were hit by another car who drifted over the centerline. One girl very critical and not a very good prognosis.
Keep your perspective people. This is a time we should all enjoy our children playing a game they love.

Anonymous said...

First some good games today. Breakers were able to come back vs South Shore. Breakers are very strong, however gap has been closed vs them.

NJ Crush does NOT belong in top group, same goes for NY Soccer. It's a ashamed that director did not set up teams correctly.

TSF are a very good team, will only get better through out the season.

MF (NJX) loses and ties. Still too direct, as teams are getting older, bigger. They are not able to run through teams any longer.

World Class had a great day. Able to come from behind to win. Was able to watch World Class at STA as well. Solid team just on smaller side. Finals vs STA was given away by World Class in last 5 mins after controlling game.

After watching today and last weekend, I would strongly state that MF NPL should not be discussed again about being ECNL team next year. I will bet GFA girl will soon practice with ECNL Team. GFA girl played with both teams these past 2 weekends, will be interesting to see if she asks to be moved.

Anonymous said...

Aren't there others besides the new girl that deserve to play on ecnl team. Just curious. Will More go to matchfit team? or is it only the one player that is good enough?

Anonymous said...

MF-NJX is in second flight as the SC champ? While another NJ team is in top fight? Is this MF-NJX coaches not confident in their side and begging for flight 2 or tournament director knowing something about MF-NJX team's ability and level? Seems like an awful long way to travel for the B flight. After first two results, maybe there's something to this.

Anonymous said...

The crash was U15 girls

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Route-40-Crash-Teens-Hurt-273315991.html#ixzz3Bwe8cSuz

Anonymous said...

its because this is where they belong personally. Soccer starts at U13. Some teams can get away with just going long and direct. top teams can out play this style. Starting showing towards end of spring, start of beginning of this season so far.

Anonymous said...

Sunday, August 31, 2014

FC STARS OF MASS ECNL 3
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 0

EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 1
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS 0


Team W-D-L GF-GA

1: EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 3-0-0 7-1
2: NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA) 2-0-1 3-2
3: FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA) 1-0-2 5-5
4: NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ) 0-0-3 0-7

Anonymous said...

What happened to the Tsunami ?




Anonymous said...

Crush copter ran out of fuel and parents and kids had to walk miles to fields. No energy to play the games. Lucky the video broke.

Anonymous said...

Who won Breakers and Ajax game at FC Stars Cup?

Anonymous said...

8/30 1022- Amen, well said.

Anonymous said...

Favorites to win their NPLs and represent their league at the 2015 Finals place unkown.

NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA) = New England NPL
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) = NYCSL NPL
MATCH FIT ACADEMY NE NPL (NJ) = NE Girls NPL
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) - EDL NPL

Not a bad lineup from just the east coast.

Anonymous said...


World Class awful?

The game vs STA was good game by both teams and STA came out on top after going to pk's. That is why have to play till the final whistle

World Class playing very well up here at FC Stars as well.

Awful is pretty good these days

Anonymous said...

I meant their style of play is awful !

This teams doesn't pass the ball around anymore.

And they are now in second bracket of all major tournaments.

Anonymous said...

Sunday, August 31, 2014

BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL 2
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 1

NEW YORK SC G01 0
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 5

Team W-D-L GF-GA

1: BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY (MA) 3-0-0 10-4
2: SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA) 2-0 -1 9-3
3: PDA AJAX (NJ) 1-0 -2 7-4
4: NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) 0-0-3 1-16

No disrespect to the girls who probably gave it their all - but is it better to be in the wrong flight to get smocked or is it better to play competitive games? I don't know if any of the other teams would have done any better.

Teams in the GS Zone
EM or Boston to earn 10,000 & 5,000 less 20%.of their points.

NEFC and South Shore to earn 2,500 less 20% of their points.

Anonymous said...

Only way mfnjx is effective is if linesmen are blind, slow, lazy, incompetent or any of these combined. Play long right up the middle and hope striker who hangs about a step and half in an offside position can take off to goal and not get flagged. Absolutely no system of play regarding possession or build up.

Anonymous said...

Ajax doesn't seem to being too well this year. Can't seem to take home a win outside of NJ teams. Too bad

Anonymous said...



Shame World Class and MF/NJX are so bad because their style of play is not what some people like.

Some coaches adapt or adjust to the personnel they have.

What are the styles of play of the top teams in NJ,NY, PA ?

Anonymous said...

NJ crush will have tough time updating website, all teams did horrible. Club needs to stop the bleeding.




Anonymous said...

Mf/NJX has too many people at the top of their leadership with different agendas and different abilities to coach. Some with none at all.

This U13 season is the farewell tour as next year the better players will demand a change or more likely head to PDA and elsewhere. The lesser players will finally move to teams where their abilities belong. Some of whom waited for the chance to play but were sitting behind players getting preferred treatment. Others are simply more average players who are not suited to higher level play.

An expert job however of keeping the team together for what that's worth.

Anonymous said...

These clubs are selling inferior training to their kids for premium prices. by the time u13 and 14 come around, the parents finally figure out that their kids haven't been well trained after all.

The cycle begins again with the younger players(u-9) to u12 and then the same thing happens to these kids.

Parents really need to be able to spot an inferior product early on so that they can move on to other coaches and clubs and not get hood winked into paying top dollar for below average training.

Anonymous said...



Should have never joined up with MF.

Totally agree, too many so called trainers/coaches involved and looking ahead it is going to be a mess.

Anonymous said...

"What happened to Tsunami?"

No change from the spring. Some new arrivals but cannot mount a consistent attack.

Anonymous said...

"What happened to Tsunami?"

No change from the spring. Some new arrivals but cannot mount a consistent attack.

Anonymous said...

Ajax actually played quite well vs Breakers. Much better team than a year ago, no doubt.

They played the #9 and #14 teams in the nation. Having a "get a point or you failed" take is silly.

Anonymous said...

1:13 ONLY reason this is a mess in your opinion would be that is it not going YOUR WAY.

NJX you came into Match Fit with the hope of taking over ECNL team. Yes You guys won games and tournaments. Only problem is that you never EVER learn how to play. Your shield is starting to crack. I see it, YOU should as well.

I have seen Match Fit ECNL play last weekend, you guys can not play like this team or ever will. Will this team lose games, of course. After seeing a very evenly game vs WC U14 ECNL game last weekend (check U14 Blog as well)They are light years ahead of your team. FYI WC U14 made finals in 2nd flight at STARS.

We have played both teams, this would be the only way it is a mess. go cry your eyes out somewhere else. Go to PDA!!!

Anonymous said...

I guess the Matchfit NPL team lost last game.

ecnl team much better than NPL team

Anonymous said...

1:20 No one said they played bad but they came up empty you can spin it any way you want to make yourself feel better. This is no rec or town ball anymore you play for a National Title don't you in NPL? Yes you use these events to try different rotations and stuff to see what works in League play like it should be and the only way to measure if it works is if you get a point, no?. You take what you want from my post.

The team played well according to you and that's all that matters still doesn't change the fact that they didn't place - no need to get defensive it is what it is.

PS. You mention the #9 & #14 teams in the nation. Going by the same rankings you are #11.

Lost
#14 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) 1-2
#9 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 0-2
#29 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 0-2

Won
#27 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) 6-0
#23 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 3-1
#114 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 3-0

Anonymous said...

Based on the games I have seen, NPL struggles with show this year. ECNL as much as I dont like to say. Is one best teams in NJ.

Anonymous said...

A2WES WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK 0
FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 0

TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 0
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON 2

FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED 0
SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 1

MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPL 2
BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 1



Anonymous said...



What happened to CRUSH and TSF?

Good Luck World Class in Final even though your awful and your style is awful.

Anonymous said...


Why don't the 2 MF teams play and lets see who is the better team instead of all the talk.

Anonymous said...

Its about style and direction DOC is looking for. One team that has it while other does not. Coach did not even coach his U13 NPL team. that says volumes

Anonymous said...

MF NPL team seemed to be placed in correct flight. What happened this weekend?

Anonymous said...



How come the MF ECNL team didn't play in Stars?

They could have played age appropriate and seen how they match up against some of the other top teams.

Anonymous said...

2:54 because they will play FC Stars/Breakers twice during the season home/away. Why show them what you have before the season.

2:16 Club always before team. I'm sure they will scrimmage a few times this year.

Anonymous said...

EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 2
BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) 0

NYE with a World Class & Albertson wins can come home with the three titles top 3 flights.

Mercer can give NJ a title and Alleycats can give NYE a possible 4 title at FC Stars.

Anonymous said...

Top ranked fc stars team was in same pool as MF NPL. Other pool had two very strong teams but more weaker teams(NYSC and Crush as example). When games are by a goal, it is good soccer. 4 goal margin games show when pools/flights are lopsided. Good all around talent for a tourney.

Anonymous said...


Looks like East Meadow is top team in NY,NJ,PA area

Looks like NYE making serious push with some top teams this year

Anonymous said...

Like to see these 3teams play this year to determine top team in metro area.

Matchfit ECNL

East meadow

PDA

Anonymous said...

Who then coached the MF NPL team if not the MF coach/DOC?

Anonymous said...

East meadow, MF NE NPL and penn fusion already played friendly few weeks ago. All these type of academy teams will be doing that this year. That is how they will all get better. Playing each other more.....

Anonymous said...

what about PDA?

Anonymous said...

What about the Matchfit ECNL team?

Anonymous said...


What about them

If they played this weekend in STARS guess we would know, but they didn't so for now after the first rounds of tournaments East Meadow is the team I would say especially on how they won all their games

World Class next

Just going by the latest tournaments before all the teams league seasons start.

Next round of tourney's will be Columbus weekend so we will see who plays who at that time

Anonymous said...

PDA Storm is the better PDA team. PDA Ajax is average. Until they can win top notch tournaments they will be average. Just because they have PDA in the name does not make them the best team. Players paying all that money for the name only

Anonymous said...

PDA Storm is the better PDA team. PDA Ajax is average. Until they can win top notch tournaments they will be average. Just because they have PDA in the name does not make them the best team. Players paying all that money for the name only

Anonymous said...


Seems a lot of people paying for name especially if it is Matchfit how many teams and town clubs can you have

Few years ago it actually meant something to say you play for MF

Now it's like WHICH ONE and where are you located

Anonymous said...

Actually 6:22.

It will be settled in pre ecnl.

East meadow will have there hands full. especially with PDA's pedigree

it was a great tournament for NY.

Go NY!

Anonymous said...

I think PDA dragons are the best of the three.

Anonymous said...

YesI am sure you are right. No need for them to clamor anymore to be on the ECNL team.

The PDA dragons and Matchfit/ NJX will live happily ever after.

Anonymous said...

Lol..WC is awful? They play a great game. Fast, skill, possession, strength.

Anonymous said...

They are in the second bracket for a reason.

News flash, any time ECNL put their own kind in second bracket while PDA Ajax(second team) is in first bracket. It should clue you in on what the elite group thinks of the team.

Anonymous said...

WHO CARES they won, MF NPL did not. PERIOD

Anonymous said...

What is with this blog? You rip Ajax for not winning in the top bracket, you rip WC for winning in the second bracket, and rip NJX for being in the second bracket and not winning. It was a high level tournament with very good teams competing. There were a couple teams that struggled this tournament but hopefully they will rebound. The folks making the comments weren't there to see any of the games and have nothing intelligent to add. A lot of good soccer played.

Anonymous said...

heh

4:04

Tha best FC STARS team (Stars - ECNL) was in the BLUE division with Crush, E Meadow and NEFC.

The team had been FC Stars United and now has players ffom 3 states after a heavily attended tryout.

The points matter little. The North team is good as well, yes. Just not the elite within that club at this time.

Anonymous said...

Great job today by East Meadwo,,,,,,

Breakers almost lost a second straight time to S Shore (down 2-0 I believe before pulling it out 3-2 on a pk)

Then they lose today to the roughnecks from E Meadow, who are poised to run roughshod over this division this season (very underrated defensive club since their offensive punch is so heralded)

Anonymous said...

I think east meadow had some issue in their own state with World taking EDP division. um, that was two months ago.

I think they'll find Matchfit and PDA will give them all they can handle in coming months .Both Matchfit and PDA have new players ,that will improve the teams considerably for next season.

Good luck with the "roughshod" and handling some of those new players.

Anonymous said...

No one is "ripping" anyone - Just giving credit to the champions East Meadow, World Class and Albertson a NY state of mind in the top 3 flights. In addition to these teams I also gave credit to the teams that placed. Never said anything bad about the event or the quality of teams. Not everyone can win and as much as this blog like to talk up PDA Ajax, NYSC, NJ Crush and MF NPL none of them placed.

I wasn't there and am only going by the results and the GS impact - nothing more - This has nothing to do with the quality of the games but everything to do with reality. The top 4 teams in each flight will get GS points that will move them up the rankings as others lose their GS points with none to take their place.

Most poster quote the GS rankings - Boston Breakers a great team that also played in a ton of GS events to accumulate all their points. So are they good or are they GS point chasers or are they both?

Big Winners EM and World Class.

Lets see what happens next week

9/6/14
Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL P

Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs
PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

and on 9/7/14
Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL


Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs
World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Some great games and if NPL is your cup of tea.

Enjoy these

U13 NE Girls NPL
9/6/14
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPL
Continental FC 01 NPL vs Albertson SC 01 NPL
FC Bucks 01 NPL vs World Class FC 01 NPL
Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPL

9/7/14
FC Bucks 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPL
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs World Class FC 01 NPL
Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs Albertson SC 01 NPL
Continental FC 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPL

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

U13 NYCSL NPL (Week 1)
09/07/2014
New York SC NPL-01 vs STA NPL-01
NY Rush NPL-01 vs Quickstrike FC NPL-01
Brentwood YSC NPL-01 vs Intense SA NPL-01
Manhattan SC NPL-01 vs Massapequa SC NPL-01


AND YES all these NPL results will matter in addition to the quality of the games as the winners fight to represent their league in a National event.

Anonymous said...

The below 3 are my favorite match ups.

Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs
PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL vs
World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

But also wan to see how NYSC NPL responds after a not so good week against STA NPL who had a great event last week. Don't know much about NE NPL teams but it looks like MF NPL and PDA South should be the favorites - let's see how they respond to a so so week of results.

Anonymous said...

My Predictions Standings after first weekend - I know who cares besides me - but you give an idiot like me this platform and I will post this stupid stuff.

Pre-ECNL
PDA 2-0-0
MF 2-0-0
World Class 2-0-0
East Meadow 1-0-1
Albertson 1-0-1
Continental 0-0-2
PennFusion 0-0-2
FC Bucks 0-0-2

NE NPL
ML NPL 2-0-0
PDA South 2-0-0
PDA North 1-0-1
Continental FC 1-0-1
World Class 1-0-1
PennFusion 1-0-1
Albertson 0-0-2
FC Bucks 0-0-2

NYCSL NPL

STA 1-0-0
ISA 1-0-0
Massapequa 1-0-0
Quickstrike 1-0-0
NYSC 0-0-1
NY Rush 0-0-1
Brentwood 0-0-1
Manhattan 0-0-1

Anonymous said...

Any Got Soccer updates?

Anonymous said...

I think NJ goes 1,2 and 3 in NE NPL. Too much talent for other states B teams. I think they could beat most ECNL teams.

Anonymous said...

Many problems at Mf. Starting with, who is the coach or trainer. Many promises made to get this team over and committed to Mf. None of the promises have come to fruition as of yet.
Power struggle going on between Mf and old coach. Parents are not happy with all the promises and lies and little suzie not playing the position they think she should. Parents are complaining to old coach who used to do whatever the squeaky wheels would want. Problem is Mf is in charge, not the old coach.
Style of play is way to direct always forward no matter what. Ño possession. Mf plays 5 or 6 girls the entire game who try their best but can not play an entire game. Perfect example is Mf goals they let up are always in the last 5 minutes of the game. Mf better straighten things out fast or its gonna be a long season and your gonna be minus a team. Its apparent they are grooming a select few for the ecnl team and keeping stringing the rest along with promises which quickly turn to bold lies.

Anonymous said...

Pretty sure they (NJX/MFNPL) will be fine

Every team has its logistical issues. And a time when it needs to change its tactical play.

Nice squad. And a decent start to the fall campaign.

Anonymous said...

Both sides are in on it. Old coach protecting her personal interests. MF not attached to this team beyond the paycheck. Bank on this to continue as the Holmdel area kids not likely to travel to Jefferson team's training and same goes for Jefferson team.

So the old coach will continue along having parents just where she wants with few options and likely to stay put. MF happy to keep the check.

Ain't youth sports just grand!!

Expect a few players to leave at year's end if not sooner.

Anonymous said...

They are leaving sooner. Thats for sure. You get what you give. Mf not committed to team and team is not committed to getting better. Perfect match. DOC stated he was going to be the trainer and is listed as the trainer on GS. Hasnt been seen or heard from.

Anonymous said...

Playing catch up here, as the blog was full the week after Spirit, and then I was away on a short vacation.

I'll try to reply to PA relevant posts below.

"Penn Legacy is much better than Penn Fusion. Watch the game and they completely dominated them. Wildcats looked good against Calvert and Penn but then looked slow and outplayed against Ajax. Looked like two different teams. Must be the coaching.

August 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM"

Agreed, with the caveat that the first half was played pretty evenly and ended 1-1. I don't know what the PL coach told his players at halftime, or what adjustments they made, but they destroyed PF in the second half. Four goals scored in one half is a lot at this level. GS rankings and ECNL membership aside, you have to pass the "Best in PA" label to PL after that performance.

The other PA teams at Spirit (1776 and Ukrainians) did not provide any evidence that they are ready to play at this level (both lost twice and then tied each other in a consolation game). I saw the 1776 vs. Greater Binghamton game and I'd give a slight edge to GB. Although it may have been one of those situations where a bigger team playing direct soccer (GB) was booting the ball deep over and over again.

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

"PA guy, if Penn Legacy and PA Classics merged their girls program would they be better than PennFusion, FC Continental & FC Bucks across all ages. I know they have a D2 Semi-Pro team in WPSL, can ECNL or NPL be in the future?

August 30, 2014 at 12:08 PM"

After beating PF 5-1, it's kind of hard to argue that Legacy is not already the best team in PA.

Legacy would not gain much from a merger with Classics. Many of the players on Classics are either former Legacy players who left when playing time was reduced. There are not too many players on Classics that would make the Legacy team.

The best thing to happen in PA would be to dissolve Con FC and move it west to the Lancaster area. This would put an ECNL team near Lancaster, leave Penn Fusion to recruit in Delco/Chesco, and leave FC Bucks north of Philly. As it stands now, Penn Fusion and Con FC are too close to each other.

My current PA tiers:

1
PL
PF (top tier, but currently behind PL)

2
Ukrainians
1776
FC Revolution

3, 4, 5
Take your pick of LVU, Hulmeville, HMMS, YMS, etc.

6
Classics
Con FC
FC Bucks

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

8:18

We were told (maybe by you) that NJX players were leaving THIS year.

Give it up already.

Anonymous said...

"My Predictions Standings after first weekend - I know who cares besides me - but you give an idiot like me this platform and I will post this stupid stuff.

Pre-ECNL
PDA 2-0-0
MF 2-0-0
World Class 2-0-0
East Meadow 1-0-1
Albertson 1-0-1
Continental 0-0-2
PennFusion 0-0-2
FC Bucks 0-0-2"

Could very well happen. Only chance for a PA team to win will be Penn Fusion. They've played WC pretty evenly in two friendlies (a one-goal win and a one-goal loss) and then tied them 0-0 at Delco. This will be PF's first time playing against PDA Storm.

Couldn't find the post, but someone else mentioned that the PA teams will struggle in the NPL league. I agree. PF ECNL has managed to beat both Ajax and NJX 2-0, but the PF NPL team will get destroyed by these two teams. I don't even want to think about how the FC Bucks and Con FC NPL teams will fare as even their ECNL teams would not be able to hang with Ajax or NJX.

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

This isn't 818, but he or she hit the nail on the head. If you have one girl playing on 3 teams in 2 age groups, what does that say for your program. What does that say to the kids who did not make the roster on those three teams. It says thank you for your deposit and come again. Girls will be practicing in raritan and playing for jefferson and the ecnl team. Its happening now. Another example of Match Fleeced

Anonymous said...

Just be happy we are not part of CRUSH NJ, maybe no drama, but not a single winning team in the club.

Anonymous said...

11:45.

ECNL is a very competitive structure. There is no fairness associated with any high level team in any sport. Each child will be treated differently depending on how important the organization deems your child to be their success. Loyalty just because you played with the organization is non existent.

It seems that your expectations are too high. You need to see high level teams for what they are-not as you wish them to be.

It is the organization's responsibility to keep your team together while choosing the few girls they need to strengthen their ECNL team. In order to do that the organization has to be very careful what they communicate to parents;otherwise, there would be a mass exodus. This would be delicate for any Elite organization:


Proper communication starts with the following:

1)Give the parents hope and communicate the possibility of their child making the ECNL team by
Creating a visual scenario that is very positive for the most players-This is called the carrot.

2) Demonstrate importance of players on 2nd team by promising that only the highest level coaches will train this group.

Club may not be able to live up to this because every team wants the highest level coach and the coach that has been promised may not have time .

Once parents start to question commitment

make future promises that the parents can hang unto- to that you create a paralysis culture (parents don't know what to do because they don't want to leave too early if indeed some of these things promised may come true in the future.

3)Llimit opportunities by limiting options for the players. (this can be done by keeping players in their place until most ECNLl teams are filled and coaches only need a position or two to fill their roster.


Then you take the few players that you need for ECNL while convincing the rest of the team that this NPL situation is better than that NPL situation.
After all, here the players will be with her friends, over their, she'll be starting from the beginning.
Here she has a chance to make ECNL team next year. Over their, she won't have a chance.

The biggest currency parents have at this point is time. Elite level clubs try to spend that currency by holding out "carrots" to keeping players as long as possible until opportunities become limited.

This is the way it has alway been done.

A matrix of sorts that only a few of the more intuitive parents see through from the start.

I have no problem with this, as my expectations about any elite sports organization is for them to protect the organization at all costs.









Anonymous said...

12:57

I agree the elite club will protect the club first and as a result of this Players will benefit. Not all players, but the players that work hard will benefit first team or not.

If they have that "carrot" in front of them regardless if they get it or not they will work hard to try and get it making them the best player they can be. Sometimes that's not good enough.

Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

The difference between many of these top clubs is depth. Some are balanced. Others like MF NE NPL are not. The top of this team is the reason they compete at this level right now. That cannot sustain much longer....... Combining top of north pre ECNL and old NJX teams will make for one very deep team. Patience people, patience.......

Anonymous said...

Wow, well said. You summed it all up very nicely. Sounds like you were a part of one of thes3 organizations or had to deal with them. Mf is all smoke and mirrors or the carrot as you say. Big question is, if you pull your kid, where do you go?????

Anonymous said...

Wow, well said. You summed it all up very nicely. Sounds like you were a part of one of thes3 organizations or had to deal with them. Mf is all smoke and mirrors or the carrot as you say. Big question is, if you pull your kid, where do you go?????

Anonymous said...

1:19

You are off topic.


No doubt there is some residual value for some that stay, but only if that player is given the Proper Coach.

Point made is that sports organizations communicate in such a way to protect their organization and for those parents that have intentions of bigger things for their child, they must not rely on the "kindness of strangers"

Anonymous said...

Why would any parent compare their child to another? All you can do is ask your kid to give it their best. Your kid is who she is and you as a parent get to pick where she plays as long as it's a two way street between club and player. There will always be players certain coaches like, doesn't mean they are the best but they are the best for that coach. Nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous said...

Problem is the ones who think they are the top are very far from it. So patience for what??? There may be 3 players deserving of a ecnl opportunity.

Anonymous said...

1:19 here - 1:26 I agree always read in between the lines. Sometimes we won't like what we see, but sometimes it's not a bad thing either (depends on the organization).

Anonymous said...

1;27.
Parents should choose where they want their kids to play but not based on future promises.

Anonymous said...



Where do you go if not going to be part of ECNL team is a good question?

Guess things that factor in are:

Level of team
How daughter meshes with girls on team after attending sessions
Coach
Facilities
Distance
Cost

Anonymous said...

NJ top 10 with September points going away in ( ), will do NYE after FC Stars Event give points. I don’t think any of the NJ teams earned any points.

23660 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (-8,000)
20274 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (-3.088)
16906 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (3,447)
15305 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (-951)
14673 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL (-3,576)
12913 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (-1,578)
12893 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (-1,623)
12544 NJCSA GALAXY (2,066)
9812 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (-4,178)
7510 PDA DRAGONS (-983)

Going into Columbus Day using these numbers.
Your NJ top 10 with events in ( )

17186, PDA Ajax (8)
15660 PDA Storm (5)
14354 STA NPL (9)
13459 NJ Wildcats (8)
11335 NJ Crush (8)
11270 Rage FC (6)
11097 MF NPL (5)
10478 NJCSA Galaxy (9)
6527 PDA Dragons (4)
6258 MF ECNL (4)

Anonymous said...

Give Match Fit(NJX) North East NPL time to figure it out. New coach (or coaches maybe) and new system.

As for the lies. Yep, there will be a lot of those along the way. And smoke and mirrors too. The MF DOC doesn't even know what the truth is as he makes it up as he goes along. Lots of the same promises being made between Raritan and Jefferson... Eventually everyone will know how it shakes out.

I think it will be interesting to watch the MF NE NPL team and how they come out at the end of the meat grinder that they are in. Hopefully most will be happy with the direction that they have gone in.

But don't think that the best player who works hard will always prevail. Players that are as good as the perceived top players will get spit out of the system for a variety of reasons including style of play or style clash with coach or what have you.

Anonymous said...

MF played good this weekend considering most players were playing different positions.

Anonymous said...

Match fleece is a joke as a club. Maybe has one or two good age groups. Just a PDA wannabe club. Good luck just sew your pockets closed.

Anonymous said...

1;22: 1:19 here

It certainly is a tough decision, it may be true that your daughter is in the right place, even if that means the current NPL team.

If you think she has a shot at a higher level team then you have to ask yourself ;where will she be in the pecking order on a roster of 25.

If she is 1-6 then she is in right place as long as she meshes with coach.

7-11 will have more pressure in holding on to their starting spots but still an excellent situation.


12-16 is tough call because they will get plenty of playing time but may not be starters and will have to take a step back and check their ego's.

As the player matures, these players may switch with 7-11.

Also 15-18 will have to be handle being asked to stay home for certain games to give other players the chance to play. They may be in a rotation of on and off games.


Ecnl excellent for players 1-6

Ecnl very good for players 7-12

ECNL good for players 13-15


Ecnl becomes less appealing for players 16-18


and in my opinion not a good situation for players 19-25.


If 19-25 can play significant playing time on a High level second team(NPL) then you run to that team because these girls will get significant exposure on the right team and some of these second level teams will beat other ECNL teams.

Here again coach is the major consideration for your choice.-and quality of play




Anonymous said...

1:22. I meant to say 12:57 here.



Anonymous said...

3:45 - you are so right about the coach being the most important factor. Of course we all want a coach who knows what they are doing and has strong training. And that is hard enough especially when we also nee to avoid coaches who either (1) don't appreciate what my daughter brings to the table, (2) doesn't have the right coaching style to motivate her or her teammates or (3) forgets that she is only 12 years old and bullies her and her teammates. And yes, I have one of those. Can you give me some insight into which clubs in this age group have qualified coaches who are not overgrown children themselves? I was thinking that was at MFA and PDA. Is that wrong? Supposedly, there is some quality control there.

Anonymous said...



So leave team if being bullied, why put up with if your daughter feels that way.

If it's you that feels that way then need to talk with daughter and see if she feels same.

Then would go through the process of going to 2/3 other clubs and see which daughter feels most comfortable.

Don't just assume MF and PDA are right for her. Explore your options

Anonymous said...

4:18 3:45 here.

Where are you located. just give approximate and how far are you willing to drive?

Anonymous said...

DOC's at both MF and PDA promised they would coach/train storm and celtic to keep those teams from losing players due to unhappiness or uncertainty with coaches at end of spring/tryout season.
Only very foolish ever believed those promises.

Anonymous said...

Promises will be made regardless of where you go. Same thing happens at PDA. All about where you kid fits in and if THEY are happy. We use the academies as much as they use us. I had an older daughter who I am not paying college for...... Not saying same thing will happen for this one but will USE their connections and the exposure all day every day..... Again, you need to know your kid and if this is what they want to do.

Anonymous said...

Latest GS update has NJX falling outside the top 10 to #13. And can anyone confirm if Rage is or isn't a team anymore? If some for of them still exists, where are they playing? And if they don't, can we essentially ignore them in the rankings until they officially drop off?

Anonymous said...

...some *form* of them...

Anonymous said...

5:19

Who cares about GS points? GS is only good for researching the history of a team.

Anonymous said...

The spring teams are rising to the top of GS points. All three PDA teams and STA have made the biggest moves. All 4 of these teams improved their talent this Fall.

Anonymous said...

First off if you are using GS to rank a team you are not on a top team. Show me how the Spring teams made a move??? All this is are points falling. The top 5 will now will still lose more. Just about when it will happen. Example, Storm loses 8,000 on 9/21. At this level you need to rank based on head to head. So many playing stronger talent than others. Very though for GS to give you a clear picture.....more important for your daughter to be enjoying herself on the team that challenges her the most based on her skill set.

Anonymous said...

All teams will lose points in the fall. The ones with Spring points and those who earn points this fall will be on top. Teams like Rage, Crush and others lost talent In the Spring and did not accumulate many points. The others that I mentioned did. Of course, if you want to stay on top or get back on top you need points this fall.

Anonymous said...

You are correct 635, some teams are going to take big steps backward come December. It started with Spirit as I predicted. Too many high quality players gravitated toward the PDA & Matchfits of the world & this is really going to continue. Teams who lost players will end up losing games, being less competitive & their top shelf players will end up moving on. Has become a frequent occurrence come u13 - u14 age group in NJ.

Anonymous said...

When a team promotes, advertises or represents that a certain person will coach and/or train the team and that person is materially absent, then minimally a con has been committed if not outright consumer fraud.

DoC might stand for "Depositor of Checks".

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna take a wild guess & say that 7:22 is the 50 mile NCAA rule guy from the summer. Am I right? You're too funny by the way.

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna take a wild guess & say that 7:22 is the 50 mile NCAA rule guy from the summer. Am I right? You're too funny by the way.

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna take a wild guess & say that 7:22 is the 50 mile NCAA rule guy from the summer. Am I right? You're too funny by the way.

Anonymous said...

4:18 - I'm with 4:29 leave if you haven't already. While a good coach is great a Bad coach for that kid can take the passion right out of a kid.

The only thing about PDA and MF while great clubs they are looking out for number 1 - win titles to keep the Brand special to keep kids coming. If your kid can play and you don't mind being on the NPL team these are good places to be in my opinion. You have a "carrot" in ECNL. Doesn't mean your kid will ever get it but you have something to motivate them if they are not at that level yet. But if they are at that level they will compete every day for their minutes which will make them an even stronger player. If your kid doesn't want soccer beyond college then other options do exist that will get them into a good school. Which one is for you and your kid - go to their games and watch how the coach is with the team attend training sessions who cares if the coach finds out what further damage can they do?

Your kid is number 1 and if they are in an environment that stinks get out. They will find a replacement without thinking twice about your kid just as you can find a replacement and shouldn't feel bad about it.

Anonymous said...

Re: the "con" committed and the absentee coaches

Are you really that locked into a trainer rather than a program?

Can your daughter really NOT take to instruction from many different sources?

Anonymous said...

NO 8:22 I know 7:22 is not the 50 mile guy.
Maybe that means that at least 2 parents are now awake and have opened their eyes a wee bit to the lack of integrity of those two.
Bad news for those 2 DOC's if more parents catch on.

Anonymous said...

If the instruction is the same from all the coaches and trainers, than why did MF have to "sell" the DOC as the new coach and trainer to keep the Celtic players and parents on board.
Why not just tell the truth and let everyone make an informed decision based on the real "new" coach and trainer?
As has been obvious all along MF and their DOC's goal was to keep both teams full and parents paying dues as long as possible by any means necessary, damn the truth and the kids.

Anonymous said...

Celtic players were never going anywhere. Of course with a new club sometimes comes a new coach. Other teams have dont it - the full team move - but kept their coach.

Could NJX have said NO to the MF deal and just kept Celtic in their club? I dont know. Maybe you can tell me. What WERE the options put forth? And what were the perceived benefits of being with MF?

Anonymous said...

Further...

Can they go back to being NJX?

Anonymous said...

Always going to be people not happy with new coaching..... Training is much better than before and they will play strong talent all year. Everyone needs to worry about their own club. As said in past, you would have been a fool not to go to MF if you were with NJX. No matter who wants to bash, the academies all have the strongest connections. Before people come back, I know others do, but not like the academies.... Just the truth. Not going to be for everyone though. The kids and parents who can't hang, and there are some, will fall out of program next season.

Anonymous said...

10:36

when your daughter goes to her school. Are there teachers in the school that you prefer over other teachers for your child.

You assume that these clubs have some club wide mandate on how to teach the game and every coach is of the same quality.

when in-fact club wide philosophies that are marketed to parents are from what goes on in realty.

Each coach-especially the senior coach's with significant pedigree make a huge difference in the development of your child.


The club structure helps with quality control but does not ensure that your child is getting the best teacher.

Easy example is that here in the US, a club like PDA and Matchfit will put some of their younger least experienced coaches with the children of younger age groups. This is the most important time in development of a child's skills but these kids will be taught by some of the least experienced coaches in the club.

So yes, who coaches(teachers ) your child matters even at a "quality controlled organization"

Anonymous said...

Just to add, not every coach is right for every child. I am not talking about tactical aspects of the game, but communication, motivation, etc.

Anonymous said...



LOL "fall out of the program" is that what they call it at MF



Anonymous said...

11:06 said "Training is much better than before and they will play strong talent all year."

Do you consider the B teams of these ECNL teams strong talent? The strongest 2 teams you will likely play are both from NJ. Many of the teams you will travel to play against are extremely weak. Not buying that.

Anonymous said...

You were obviously not up in Mass. Plenty of NE NPL talent. Also practicing and playing against ECNL teams within the program and plenty of friendlies against other pre ECNL clubs. It is all good. Please show me where you are playing better talent. Again, you don't always need to hate what you are not a part of.....

Anonymous said...

Not a hater, just being objective. I think the ECNL is very deep. Tell me where the high level NPL teams are in this region. Not from PA and not from NY. Are they in CT & MA?

Anonymous said...

Yes. CT and MA. But you are missing the numerous friendlies and training aspect to all of this which is the MOST important. I will take banging against older teams within a program over a regular game all day every day....

Anonymous said...



Hope your not talking about going against the U14 team.

They seem to be a team on lower end in club

Anonymous said...

I am not familiar with the NPL teams from CT and MA so OK we'll see. But even if they are high level, that makes the league very average at best with half being below.

Anonymous said...

Again, what other teams are out there that are going to be any better???

Anonymous said...

1st division EDP is strong

Anonymous said...

Breakers and FC Stars teams are likely quite good. I see Breakers lost 1-0 to Albertson A team in Stars Cup

Interesting that NE NPL is designating these teams as U13 pre-ECNL........

Anonymous said...

12:15 it's 2 flights.

Pre-ECNL Flight
plus NE NPL flight

Anonymous said...

The 5-6 area ECNL teams, NJ Wildcats, Binghamton, Penn Legacy, etc.

Anonymous said...

Sorry 12:28 was in response to 11:56

Anonymous said...

Assuming GS can identify the Pre-ECNL and NPL teams like we do.

The Flight Value

NE Pre-ECNL = 10,000
EDP Central = 9,500
NE NPL = 7,500

Those are a bunch of GS points going to these teams as I said assuming GS can identify the Pre-ECNL and NPL teams.

Now that GS includes all the top Regional leagues.

NE pre-ECNL
NE NPL
R1 Premier
R1 Colonial
EDP
NYSCL NPL
NYSCL PL
NEP

The best teams that travel in the region will get those import league pts in addition to their Events.

For those that stay at home in JAGS and PAGS well you'll be a few steps behind when it comes to being flighted down the road

Anonymous said...

12;31

ecnl teams like PDA do not need GS points. They will always be slotted in top bracket of every tournament.

You will note that the ecnl teams at PDA wil have a very low ranking on GS.in the future.

To me this is why you join a top notch ecnl organization.






Anonymous said...

GotSoccer is also going to include JAGS this year and allocate points. Might be Thanksgiving before they get it working, but that's the word.

Anonymous said...

OI never said they need them - But they will be getting them. Since you brought up PDA - if they have the best record in the Fall they will get 10,000 GS points less their 20%.

If they also have the best record in the Spring they will get another 10,000 points less their 20%.

If they win theirPDA tournament they will get another 10000 points less their 20%

If they win Nj Cup they get another 10000 points less their 20%.

So even though they don't need them or care for them, they will accumulate them and they will be ranked accordingly by GS.

I would still like GS to do moreof an average when it comes to rankings instead of straight up accumulation.

My point is hate it or love it GS is part of the Youth Soccer landscape regardless if you need it or not.

Anonymous said...

EDP as strong as pre ECNL and NE NPL? Please let me know what teams you are looking at??
Problem with GS is the pre ECNL and NE NPL will play more top teams than others. Like EDP. EDP will get you two good games and then it falls off the map. So you only need to win two top games and you are cruising to the points. Just not the same depth of talent.

Anonymous said...

The top 4-6 kids will card with both pre ECNL and NE NPL teams for their club. They will float back and forth for league games. Makes both teams tough for regular league play.

Anonymous said...


That will sit well with everyone on both teams NOT

The MF mess only the beginning

Anonymous said...

It will certainly cause some frustration and chaos. Are you saying the top from NPL will play both and the bottom of ECNL will play both? Because if the top from NPL are rostered for ECNL, then someone from ECNL is out. Do they go to NPL?

Anonymous said...

3:15 Dude!! Relax - I'm not saying it's as strong as Pre-ECNL. When you have to play EM, WC, MF, PDA, Boston, FC Stars, FSA, CFC twice it doesn't get any better. Even FC Bucks, Continental FC and Albertson will get better.

EDP has some strong competition as well, I think NE NPL is still stronger but it's not bad comp. Don't be closed minded, there is a level for everyone and some of those teams have some big wins against the Pre-ECNL teams.


Anonymous said...

MF will only bring an NPL player up when ECNL rooster is short. However, when their ECNL players need more playing time or NPL team needs wins, then MF will bring ECNL player(s) down.

Anonymous said...

4:59 that will make the NE NPL even better if more clubs do that.

Anonymous said...

ALL academies have the "floaters". That is why people from the outside do not realize how deep the talent will be in both pre ECNL and NE NPL....

Anonymous said...

PDA does not have floaters.

Anonymous said...

How would pr-ecnl or ECNL team be "short"-they carry more than enough extra bodies/$ without bringing up an NPL player. And if my kid is on NPL and u bring down an ECNL kid for playing time that wouldn't float either. Why should that kid get playing time the NPL kid earned and parents paid for?

Anonymous said...

There are no floaters at PDA.

Anonymous said...

Again: this is something that they academies sell to parents but in practice, it is very rarely done.

An occasional player will play for a couple different teams but its more the eception rather than the rule.

But these ecnl teams will market this to their parents for that carrot of hope.

Anonymous said...

There are no ECNL players playing on NPL teams. Except maybe a goalie if a goalie is hurt.

Anonymous said...

PDA have no floaters??

Are you kidding me, PDA is known for bringing down ECNL players down to State cup teams, Region 1 teams, and NPL teams. They did this heavy last year, which prompted NPL to changes rules this year

Anonymous said...

are you forgetting the PDA Stragens,aren't they a combination of the dragons and storm.no problem we'll play whoever you put on the field.

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