It takes a certain type (I am speaking about female players) to be willing to play soccer (exclusively) with boys. Girls rely on the social aspect more and that can be awkward. I think it can be very beneficial in development for the exceling female player, but they may not be interested or willing from a socail perspective...at least that was my experience with my daughter.
Agreed. Mime played with boys from 6-9yrs old.Was very willing and very competitive on the boys side at that age.At 9 it was time to move to girls team. mainly for social reasons.Was advanced compared to girls her age when she switched over.
Ajax plays great soccer? Congrats on the win but don't get confused. Can count the number of passes connected with both shoes and a glove on.
I am not surprised you feel the game wasnt pretty in terms of connecting passes. Rage are a tough defensive side.
Yes, true tough to play possession vs rage team. They will knock you off the ball if you hold it too long.
Anyone who was there have analysis of rage vs ajax game?
Be careful, other teams got bashed when answering same question from someone on blog.
My kids team plays possession soccer, but we are having a ahead time against kick and run’s, its just impossible to play good soccer against big, unskilled girls, who dump the corners, and run over you. The reason is every girl on the possession team needs to have a great first touch, and at this level some of them are still lacking, we have 4-5 that are great, but on the big field, you need 7-9 that will not lose the ball under pressure. So, what to do? We are going to stick-it-out, and even though we may lose games now, by u14 our team should be hard to match-up against, we shall see.
Looking for a team for my daughter, she will be u13 in fall. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Looking for a competitive team. She has been playing since age 5. Leaving town team . She is very skilled and definitely is one of the best on her team. How much are these club teams?
When questions are asked like the above post, you need to give some general geography, North, Central, South. That will help with any recommendations. Cost for the higher level teams is between 2000-3200 per year in general.
Careful with 6:47, may be another innocent sounding general question looking to set up a chance to bash another team. That has been his MO for some time now.Same person asks, then answers his own set up question.Same agenda over and over,tired and redundant.
Yes, let me even guess his answer ahead of time.Here are the ones to consider, but stay away from these.We are all on the edge of our seats waiting for him to grace us with his omnipotent knowledge of all the teams and clubs in nj. And then we will only consider the clubs he recommends.Especially considering his qualifications, track record and experience at the highest levels of youth soccer.And his anonymity.
7:50 I think you nailed/outed him.
yes, somewhere in nj, hiding deep down in his dark, cold, damp pit, and Evil Troll shudders with fear, at the thought he may have been discovered.
Happy Easter to all our soccer families! Let's all try and be kinder to each other this holiday season.
Very true in ODP, until U15 or so the children playing the same age club/ODP have a big advantage over the kids playing club one year behind ODP. By U15, that is generally evened out.
Did Crush win their EDP game yesterday???
Any games today? We have off and I am looking to take my daughter to watch some good soccer.
Dude, its Easter, no games today, go practice!
I would like to know Match fits thinking on the pre-ecnl and the ne npl situation they have brewing. Rumor has it the north team is the so called ecnl team and njx is the ne npl. If matchfit was going to put the best they have in ecnl, how can they be letting the team train up north? With the addition of njx along with all the talent down south, wildcats, force, pda defectors and others. Don't you think the talent would be closer to Raritan? Or are they going to allow some to train in the North and some in the south? Then just meet up for the games. Just wondering if anyone knows what they are planning before tryouts.
Flip side to that question would be, with all the talent up North from the clubs of Crush, World Class defects, North PDA defects, Parsippany, STA, SDFC. Would they allow them to train down south and lose all those North players?
7:35Your joking right? All those teams you mentioned are straight up B leveled teams. The Shore has the talent.
7:51 is exactly right. MF would build a much better team at Hazlet.
Yes 8:36. It will be an either or proposition depending on where the top team is based.Other players not accommodated will either stay on 2nd team with the leftover players or move on.
PDA North tryouts are after all others. What do parents do accept an offer from let's say MF, NJX, world Class, STA, etc... Than call back and say we are we are not accepting Your offer we are accepting PDA?
7:51 Coach does not provide any favoritism to his long time players. He does what is proper for Black team, this has been shown by his actions over the past 6-8 months.
From what I hear not the same for other ECNL team in New Jersey,
100% accurate regarding PDACoach will do make those actions that are needed
Will he cut his own daughter if appropriate? what are you smoking?Players and their families come to elite level soccer to get away from daddy coaches and nepotism.It has always doomed any high level team that has this situation.Even if not accurate the perception of favoritism will always exist as the talent on the gets better and competition for spots and starting positions and playing time becomes more fierce.And that perception will become the reality in the parents and players minds and will eventually be the teams undoing.
8:51 Clubs might not place nice if you accept their offer and decline after accepting.PS. Who do such a thing anyway? Yeah lets break some others kid heart by taking a spot away from them and having them accept another offer only for you to go back and say thanks, but we are not accepting we got our 1st choice - then what, the chain reaction?
USMT- Coach had his child on team
Not to mention, for most Clubs (not all) your offer isn't "accepted" until you've given them a check for several hundred dollars, which you don't get back when you revoke your acceptance.- EE
Correct, plus if not accepted within a certain time frame. Your spot is revoked, offered to another child
8:51Yes, you do just thatProtect your own kid's prospects. Take what is offered, then move on with the better offer when you get it.It is certainly not your fault the tryouts are staggered as they are.
10:28A coach that has a daughter playing is helped greatly when the daughter is talented enough where that is not a question - where her slot on the team, while not guaranteed, is seen pretty much as a given, based on ability.A dad coaching a top level team HAS worked in the past. I dont know what Match Fit is planning.
Beware of ANY club that is pressuring you to choose right away. If they want money right away, then RUN.These clubs should be focused on their current team that is paying and has half a season to play.
STA Tryouts 2014/2015 U13G http://www.stasoccer.org/#!morris--united-sta-tryouts/c1cia 5/7 & 5/9 Tryouts held at new complex where team now trains and will play games. Central Park 91 Central Ave.Morris Plains, NJ
10:00 AM - I agree. The timing of these tryouts are silly. I don't understand the rush to get tryouts completed. why not wait until early june? the way things are moving, tryouts for Fall 2015 will be in March 2014.
I agree any offer that has a time limit on it asking for $$$$. They arent the best choice. RUN
That's not true about time limits. I have seen limits to accept spots on Town clubs. These are places of business that need to be able to field competitive teams in order to survive. If you don't put a time limit on an offer, how do you know what you have in terms of teams? How do you get your offers out to the next kids on your list before they take a spot on another team.
ALL teams, ALL tryouts should be after Memorial Day weekend. Finish the current season as a unit.
If your daughter stands out at tryouts I am sure they will approach you right away. At which point, you tell them you want to attend a couple more tryouts so you can make the best choice with your daughter.If a club doesn't understand this, they don't really care much about your daughter. This is the only time the parents have any control over the process. Take your time and make the best choice for YOUR FAMILY.Once you accept, they want you to shut up and pay.
These early tryouts put the pressure on the parents. My daughter will be leaving her town team this year. We have told most parents and everybody has been very good about it.She will attend some tryouts this week but the team tryouts she really likes isn't until May. Do you accept an offer now and stall until all tryouts are completed?
Take a step back and look at it from both sides.Yes you want to do what's best for your kidJUST like the CLub Team wants to do what's best for their team.Not About Money. If you were a coach and you had to fill a roster, do you wait for someones kid to make a choice and keep other kids waiting and chance them not accepting so not only would the team lose option 1 but they might lose options 2,3 and 4 while option 1 attends tryouts.However, of course if you are the parent you don't want to be rushed into a choice.PS. Regardless of when tryouts are held, they will never be held at the same time.The Bottom line is we all have a choice to make Accept a sure thing or Decline and hope the other coach see the same thing.I don't think it's about money at all - it's about fielding a team.
Question:Currently my daughter is on a competitive team, GS top 20 in Region 1, but I am unhappy with the amount of time she has had in an attacking position for her team (not showcasing herself enough), and I am not sure what to do. Part of me thinks that if i approach the club, they will consider me an ingrate, and not our type of family, but that is a deeper issue that I prefer to not get into. So my question is, should we leave for a similar team, or should be stick-it-out and trust that they truly do know what they are doing. I know we all need to have some form of trust, otherwise why even get up in the morning, that said, you only get one chance at this, I want to do the right thing, sorry Spike.
I think the Premier teams should always hold tryouts in April not after Memorial Day. Most times kids are looking to move to a premier team have them fill their rosters for the new season so this way all the kids that don't make the team no where they stand and can either stay with current club or look for another or if they are no longer in the plans of the premier team to start looking for other options.This is a horrible time - for everyone KIDS, coaches & parents.
12:21 If you want to control where your daughter plays, coach a town team and play her at striker all game. If you want her to be coached by a professional on a competitive team shut your mouth and pay the bill. Coaches coach, players play, parents watch.
12:55 Spot on
or walk away and hope for the best at the next location.
1 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON0 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (LADY FALCONS)
Some Tryout DatesApril 17thNJ ForceApril 21Match Fit Academy FC U13 Pre-ECNLMatch Fit Academy FC U13 NE NPLNYSCApril 23Match Fit Academy FC U13 Pre-ECNLMatch Fit Academy FC U13 NE NPLNJSA 04 NPLNJ ForceNj WildcatsApril 25thNJSA 04 NPLApril 27thJPSApril 28thNJSA 04 NPLNJXSJEB U13 Girls - NPLApril 29thNJ CrushPDA U13 NPL GirlsApril 30thWorld Class U13 Pre-ECNLNYSCMay 2 Match Fit Academy FC U13 Pre-ECNLMay 7thSTANJ WildcatsSJEB U13 Girls - NPLMay 8thWorld Class U13 Pre-ECNLNJ CrushMay 9thPDA U13 NPL GirlsSTAMay 11th JPSMay 13thPDA U13 Pre-ECNLPDA U13 NE NPLMay 15World Class U13 NE NPLPDA U13 Pre-ECNLPDA U13 NE NPLMay 19thWorld Class U13 NE NPL June 4thWorld Class U13 Pre-ECNLTuesdays & Thursdays Rage Freedom - EDP/Region I
I guess some of the MF questions will be answered tonight
Yeah like how long a drive it will be for the players up North when they change the location of the ECNL to Raritan
Or like, some will train north and some in the south and then we will meet at the game
How about your not going to find anything out until after they have your money. Including what team your on pre-ecnl, ne npl or C or D
I can tell you that no one from up North is going to Drive to Raritan week in and week out. Their ECNL U16 trains in Denville. The expectation is that the Pre-ECNL U13 team will train in Denville as well-with training sessions 2x per month in Hazlet. If that changes there will be quite a few open spots.
For the 2014-2015 season, will ECNL start at U13 or U14? Right now if you look at the ECNL website it starts at U14.I see some references to upcoming try-outs calling U13 Pre-ECNL and some calling it ECNL.
Get used to being confused if you end up at MF Only the beginning..beware
Currently ECNL begins at U14 - U13 is considered 'pre-ECNL' I would imagine MF will keep the Falcons as pre-ECNL and let them train up north. NJX will be the NE-NPL team for the U13 year and will train from Hazlet. After that is anyone's guess. Currently U13 pre-ECNL, U14 ECNL and I'm told U15 & 16 train from Hazlet. I can only verify that the current U13 and U14s train in Hazlet as I've seen it with my own eyes.3:08 is right - you will not find out which team your child is selected for until after training begins in the new season and after you have paid your dues. I've experienced this first hand in many clubs and in varying states on the east coast. Your child is selected into the POOL for her age group. Early training sessions are used to place kids into their proper team based on ability.
Straight from match fit. No information until $$$$$ in hand. You will be placed on the appropriate A B C or D team. Ka ching$$$$$$$
teams will be offered spots by team. Parents will have a choice based on team child makes
So much BS. MFA tryouts for ECNL and NPL are together. Those teams will be picked from the girls who tryout, and are very likely to be a mix of all their teams and some new players. Holmdel and MFA North Tryouts are separate. Where the ECNL/NPL teams train will be decided by the staffs once the teams are formed. As they do now, practice and games will likely be moved around some. Of course this is just a guess.
It will be a 3 card monte game after tryouts and you will know nothing more than that you have made one of the 3 teams without putting up an $800. non-refundable deposit.You will not be told what team you made only if you are in the "Pool" of 3 U13 teams.Only after your non-refundable $800. is in their hands will they tell you where you are placed.These are professional 3 card monte dealers and you will not be able to follow the hidden card.
9:11 is spot on.Watch and see the non-refundable deposit will be $800. How ridiculous is that.$$$$ Grab anyone!Line up to write your checks to play on b and c teams.!!!
Many of the teams MF has been bragging would lose many players to them at tryouts didn't pan out.
Any scores from tonight's cup games?Looks like Crush has both teams playing.
9:15 bad attempt at trying to disguise yourself, one in the same. We got it.
What about sdfc and igfa too?Thanks
Also looks like one of the Crush teams are going to be home for the Holidays!
Are you saying the $800. non-refundable deposit before knowing what team you are offered is not true?
Stop holding back, give us some scores please.I assume Crush beat PDACrush lost to tsfIgfa won
you assumed wrong
I only know GFA won 2-1 with Sdfc Any other?
Okay sorry, I was at least one for three.
Can someone who was at the mf tryout tonight enlighten us as to the accuracy of the claim that there will be a non-refundable $800. deposit due without knowing exactly which of the 3 teams your child will play on? I would think there would have been some type of explanation ff the tryout process, timing and cost communicated to the parents and players tonight.
"I assume Crush beat PDA"Ass out of u and me...
Anybody can tell the scores of crush vs tsf and crush vs PDA?
Doesn't look good for Crush. - they would have posted if good... Can some one just give us the scores please.
Congratulations to DRAGONS.Even game. Deserved win.- CRUSH
Crush parents aren't even home yet!!!
No WiFi on the crushcopter
Crushcopter was at igfa game with his prized possession watching game i was told .
Crush usually posts about wins from the parking lot...so
Mf will not give info in person. Tbey are too busy paying attention to the girls. Ha. You'll get your email stating congratulations, please make payment with credit card. Nothing in person. No info
Crush lose double header. Can set up a friendly with wildcats. Meow!!
Not a bad idea, actually, 8:09First PDA loss for this Crush team. Tough night.
Very good match between Dragons and Crush last night. Congrats to the PDA girls.I understand that PKs are a necessary evil. But that doesn't change the fact that they're an unfortunate way to determine a winner.
Tough evening for some clubs, tryouts will be low now.Time to look for a new DOC maybe? Triple elimination in early rounds by average teams. Not many of those so important GS points going your way.
I have heard that is totally true about MF and sending in your $$ and not knowing what team you will be on...no thanks looking elsewhere Have seen how it all plays out as well once on one of those teams...not very good
Non refundable is a funny termMatch Fit wouldn't keep your cash. They just want you to think you are locked in.I think most at tryouts would accept second team status anyway at least for one season
It's a very scary place to be, would rather play for a club like Crush and be average, but know where you stand.
NJ Cup has not updated their scores. But it looks like a 10,000 point GS flight for the teams that place. Assuming GS gives points based on the number of teams in the flight.10,000 minus their 20% for Champ5,000 minus their 20% for Finalist2,500 minus their 20% for Semi1,250 minus their 20% for Elite 8If the results are correct Congrats to the NJ Cup Elite 8PDA AjaxJersey Premier Soccer Flash PDA StormTSF AcademyHolmdel NJX CelticNJ Force ImperialsPDA DragonsInternational Girls Futbol Academy
9:03 There is nothing funny about Non-refundable when it's in an email from the coach. Maybe they would give your Cash back if you fought it, but you can't tell parents there is a non-refundable deposit and then act like there isn't one.
GS looks like it has the NJ top 10 just about right if we go by this board. Replace SDFC SAMBA with MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (LADY FALCONS) and add NJ CRUSH TSUNAMI to the below list and it looks spot on after NJ Cup points are added. Once the Fall rolls around those early points will fall off and the top 10 will shape up even better.14,268 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC13,285 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM9,982 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX More Info NJ: 5 Reg 1: 15 13-5-10 46.4%9,091 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM8,095 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS6,881 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-025,592 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH4,398 TSF ACADEMY 01/023,973 PDA DRAGONS
Below is 20% of each Team's GS points that we take off the prize. 2,854 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC 2,657 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 1,996 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 1,818 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM 1,619 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS 1,376 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 1,118 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH 880 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 795 PDA DRAGONS
9:31Are you in the Match Fit boat or just causing trouble?
What's the issue with the $800? I'm sure that gets deducted from the Annual cost.If you didn't want your kid to play for MF why go to the tryout? If you want them to play for MF you were going to pay the $800 anyway.This Pre-ECNL has nothing to do with ECNL this is u13 soccer. Girls will travel with the u14's and the non-Pre-ECNL girls will play NE NPL I am sure MF will use the upcoming Season to determine who will be u14 ECNL the following season and who they will double roster for both.
Like I said earlier - "non refundable" doesn't mean much if your plan is to be with the club.
9:41 here - I agree 9:42 if you had a plan to be with the club you were paying the $800 anyway.
9:32 Don't forget the Wildcats. Need to add them in also.
To 9:32 and 9:35 Why is Rage listed? They are not final 8. You have 9 listed in both lists.
I don't believe got soccer has it right.Rage is definitely not number two in the state anymore.
With 55 kids at Mf tryouts last night and more to follow on Wednesday, this is how it shakes outMf black pre -ecnl. Will add a few to roster. Couple kids leaving and to boost the incomeNjx Ne Npl will add a few as well to boost incomeMf jaguars region 1 will add some to boost incomeMf d team playing edp will add a complete team to really boost income
10:07 please give it a rest and I am sorry that your kid is not quite good enough to make one of the academy teams. It is expensive for ANY academy team. PDA, MF, WC, etc..... Has been this way forever. They are all within a few hundred dollars from each other in fees.
The problem with the $800 is you have to pay before you know what team you are on. Maybe the pre-ecnl and npl teams are worth the money and the commitment but the c and d teams are no better than town teams. Probably no better than average town teams. Thats the problem with $800 and the blind draw.
How is this any different from PDA and their 4 teams? Storm, Dragons, Ajax and soon to be PDA Shore. Youth soccer is a business, don't kid yourself. If a parent believes they are getting a quality return on their investment, why do you care what they do?
to 10:03:You clearly dislike Match Fit, since you choose to make claims that everything they do is about boosting income, and yet you somehow know exactly how many players were at tryouts last night. Were you there with your child trying out?Also, you predict they will make 4 teams with maximum rosters to boost income, yet there were only 55 players - that leaves them short about 17 players.- EE
some observations from MF tryouts last night. roughly 50 girls attended. my daughter daid they expected more girls to attend wednesday night. originally heard they expected over 100. ahve a hard time believing that there will be an additional 50 wednesday night... but you never know.girls were basically split into 4 groups: MF black girls that already made the team; MF black girls looking to make the team, NJX girls, all others.All MF girls seemed to have better foot skills than the rest.NJX girls were big, strong and fast. were also skilled, but as a group didn't seem as technically advanced as the MF girls.group of non-MF/NJX girls: didn't appear to be any lunks in this group. as a group, technical ability lagged behind the MF & NJX girls. with the exception of 2-3 girls, didn't seem like there was enough talen to bump anyone off of the current MF/NJX rosters.seemed to be alot of chatter on the sidelines and in the stands from, what i am assuming, are current MF and NJX parents. conversations overheard leads me to believe that neither group really cares at this point if they are pre-ecnl or npl, they just hope to keep their current teams together.also heard..."there's no way I'm driving down to raritan twice a week"as for my daughter.. she held her own. however if offerred a spot, not sure that MF is the place for her
$800 commits you to the club and presumably you've done your homework and believe that the club is or will provide your child with quality training. It would be unfair for a coaching staff to accurately assess 60+ kids at a 90 minute tryout and be able to appropriately place them on a level appropriate team. I wouldn't want to be a part of THAT club. I would personally prefer to drop a deposit and then let the staff assess kids through regular sessions over the course of a few weeks before placing anyone on a team. I guess that's just me though.
10:14You can get the money backMF just wants the cash available as soon as possible in the event you stay.Do you really expect a business of running soccer teams should state:"Please send a check for $800 - which is FULLY REFUNDABLE - to.........."?That's just silly talk.
10:19 - last night was only for the pre-ecnl and npl teams. tryouts for the other two teams are being held on different nights.
This is a classic sales tactic for Matchfit,- nothing more , nothing less.The draw for most parents is the ECNL not necessarily Matchfit the club. They will tryout for matchfit, PDA and World this year and take a spot if offered on any of these club's Ecnl teams first.Matchfit is trying to tie up the parents to commit before they tryout for any other ECNL club team.If ECNL is what you want for your child, you would have to be a fool to lock in without knowing what team your child will play on..further more, if you child is that good, you better believe that they are going to let you know early if your child will be on the ECNL team..There is no way they would take a chance on any ECNL type player balking at "pay now find out later". They simply would not want that parent to walk over to PDA and World and be on that team.So if they are not telling any NEW PLAYER that your child made the ECNL team, before asking for payment, your child did not make the ECNL team and they simply want to lock you in before you go to another ECNL teams try-outs.THEY NEED TO BUILD MASS FOR THEIR OTHER TEAMS!It's a classic pressure sales pitch.YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE STUPID TO FALL FOR THAT IF YOUR CHILD IS GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE ANOTHER CLUBS ECNL TEAM.If they are not good enough than the only decision you will need to make is if you want Matchfit the club or another Club.Remember boys academies will tell you if you are good enough for the academy right up front. No stupid carrot dangling sales tactics to prevent kids from going to other tryouts.In the Know.
to 10:28:Fair enough. I don't actually mean to defend Match Fit, but I don't believe the incessant bashing from some posters adds anything other than a sour taste to the entire blog.- EE
For anyone at last night's MF tryouts, was there talk of whom the coaches of these teams will be?
10:35 - ahh.. isn't that the $1m question. that answer could shape a lot of decisions.
My bad - not that anyone cares14,268 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC9,982 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX More Info NJ: 5 Reg 1: 15 13-5-10 46.4%9,091 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM8,095 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS6,881 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-025,592 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH4,398 TSF ACADEMY 01/023,973 PDA DRAGONSADD NJ WILDCATS, RAGE and NJ CRUSH to the Above 8 and you have NJ's top 11, is GS off by a mile?GS only awards placement points for Quarter Finals if even use their software. Based on my Calcs below is what each team would get.Eliminated in Semi-Finals0 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC504 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX682 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM881 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS1,124 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-021,382 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH1,620 TSF ACADEMY 01/021,705 PDA DRAGONSFinalist2,146 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC3,004 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX3,182 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM3,381 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS3,624 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-023,882 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH4,120 TSF ACADEMY 01/024,205 PDA DRAGONSChampion7,146 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC8,004 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX8,182 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM8,381 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS8,624 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-028,882 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH9,120 TSF ACADEMY 01/029,205 PDA DRAGONS
10:16 whats the difference between MF and PDA?!. PDA has all 3 teams in the SC, MF B team knocked out in first round against Manalapan.2. PDA not demanding any money until after the tryout process is complete and you know what team you are on.What has MF done for the Jaguars except take their money and throw a patch on their game jersey?MF Club is no better than Crush, STA, Rage, SJEB or Copa. IF your not on the ECNL team your getting robbed!NJX a great team before MF.
STA U13G NPL 2014/2015 Tryouts http://www.stasoccer.org/#!morris--united-sta-tryouts/c1cia 5/7 & 5/9 Tryouts at new complex where team practices and play their games CENTRAL PARK 91 Central AveMorris Plains, NJ
10:07How is anyone getting robbed? If you as a parent are trying to put your kid in a top Academy or Semi-Academy, you should be expected to pay a minimum of 2500 with travel included. My club team was about 1500, not including travel. How stupid are you? I think you are a hater and trying to cause trouble by being deceitful.
great point 10:40, how long have the jaguars been trained by MF?PDA has 3 teams in the Elite 8.
You all are still to worked up about NOW.... It is about getting these girls ready for U14 and up. MF training is solid. So is PDA. Kids will keep coming to both over the next few years to enhance all of their teams. And yes, some bubble kids that make these teams now, will be bumped. Just the way it is at this level. You just have to be realistic as to where your own kid is in the big picture.....
Is the MF jaguar team trained by MF coaches or is it being trained by the Jefferson coach who brought them over to MF? If that is the case, you can't blame MF for training this team.
10:45, Listen you lamb, if you are dumb enough to pay $800 dollars and not know what team your on your a dope!Who said MF was a top academy? Are the Jaguars a top team? I agree with earlier posts NJX was good before MF, don't try and take credit for that.
Wow already saying "I'm not driving to Raritan 2x a week " Can't wait to see how this all works out So the poster that asked who is coaching these teams...have they decided to make changes ? I thought the MF Black coach was coaching them. Will they let him coach the pre-ECNL if his daughter makes the ECNL team or will they assign him to some of the other teams? I could see that being an issue with some even if she is good enough to be on team you know it will always be some kind of problem for some parents.
10:52you need to stop justifying taking parents money before they know the product they are buying.Its simple,before they pay, they should know where they are being placed. Parents aren't buying the "I'm just happy that matchfit choose my child.The only way you can get away with that nonsense is if Matchfit was paying the bill.
You can't even begin to compare Jaguars to Dragons. PDA Ajax is PDA, but might as well be totally separate from Storm/Dragons being where they are located. Yes a very good team with the PDA name. Looking like the training at PDA might have the edge over MF
10:55- so your saying that MF doesn't train or coach their own teams?I realize most stuff out here is false, but is it true you have to pay $800 to MF before you know what team your on?Does anybody know how many kids MF will put on each team?
I seem to remember seasons past on this blog where Dragons and Ajax got creamed about how stupid the parents were for paying a lot of money to be on a B or C team. Dragons and Ajax were not always successful, it takes time to build a successful team. If Jaguars have been with MF for only a year, there is still time for them to develop into a competitive team.
10:07 is a parent that kid left the program to go elsewhere (my choice) or a parent that got cut.for me, its the first choice. No one would continue to call a club Fleece unless your child could not hack it. Ger a life.PDA has the exact same format
lol jaguars have been with matchfit as long as the falcons
which is how long? I ask because I don't know. I thought Falcons became MF just this past fall.
I can't see Jaguars getting any better. I think if you are not on top MF team you might as well look at other clubs, especially if you are a player that just missed making the top team.
Didnt PDA Dragons get better by some PDA Storm players dropping down this year?Same could happen with MF Falcons players joining Jaguars in the fall.
PDA Storm hasn't cut or dropped a player in 3 years.
Match FitAnswwr to the coaching question could "shape a lot of decisions"?I thought it was ECNL thatw as the draw. What would the coach have to do with that?(This in response to 10:35 and 10:40)
OK, thanks, 11:30
11:33 - ECNL is a big draw, however unless your daughter has learned everything there is to know and has reached full development by age 13, i would imagine you would want a coach/trainer that can teach and develop her. - no?
"PDA has the exact same format"Nope! not correct.You are told what team you are being assigned to before you have to pay.And their try-outs are much later so they couldn't care less about locking in parents before they go to other try-outs.
Match Fleece will be featured on American Greed next Fall. Please make yourselves available for interviews.
When my daughter tried out for PDA you were able to choose:1. Storm only2. Dragons only3. Either Storm or Dragons.
If a girl was at Dragons tryout but they liked her and thought she could fit a spot on Storm, she would be offered Storm spot. It is still a "pool" of players. No matter how you call your tryouts......
Its a pool tryout because they are on the same field at the same time but you are told what team you have been assigned to and then you pay.You are a dope!
"How is this any different from PDA and their 4 teams? Storm, Dragons, Ajax and soon to be PDA Shore. Youth soccer is a business, don't kid yourself. If a parent believes they are getting a quality return on their investment, why do you care what they do?"-Pda Ajax and Pda Shore hold their own tryouts. If you go to these tryouts you know exactly what team you are trying out for. -The Storm and Dragons tryouts are held together but you can select which team you want to be on.-PDA doesn't collect ANY money until the current season is over.- You know exactly where every team is going to practice and play there games.There is no comparison between PDA and MF.
The best thing MF did was convince NJX parents they needed MF. Once MF gets NJX for 1 year, they will tear that team apart for the good pieces. Then they have to either drive an extra hour or leave and tryout somewhere else and start all over.Well played MF, well played my friend!
You guys are clueless, after tryouts your child- actually the parents will get an email stating Congratulations your child **** made the pre- ECNL team or NPL or what ever it is.This is exact same way PDA runs its practice. I have 2 older kids in programs- one for each. Stop feeding misinformation.You hate Match Fit for a reason, maybe your child was just not good enough
12:38 Whats the story with the $800? Funny, how MF is so desperate to show they are the same as PDA. Why would somebody choose a knockoff. If you want to be like PDA, why don't you just play for PDA?
Okay , let's move along.We should be talking about SC and the final eight. All the best teams in the state are alive and well, should be some great matches. And wildcats and nj crush are on the sidelines with no voice.
12:54 LOL, thats a great point.
My kid did attend last night. I attended just as 10:22amYes about 50-60 kids attended.My child did ok, they pitted her vs Black girls towards end. I could say her team barely had the ball.I have to agree MF Black girls skills were far superior. Very calm on ball, movement off ball, awareness, I enjoyed watching girls from Black team. Several girls in Green in first half had to be top players from Black team, they were outstanding in every aspect.I openly spoke how impressed I was with skills of Black girls, one parent that had a U14 girl trying out stated, coach hits technical skills all the time. He attends many of his practices so his daughter can improve.After watching, I see 4 girls that can make the ECNL team, 2 of those girls came late, Again being nosy, they came from Up North from what I was told. Coach recruited them. add those girls with current players should be a nice team.my daughter will head to Wednesday with hopes of making NPL with NJX players. If they lose 2-3 players to Black, this will open up some roster spots.
"And wildcats and nj crush are on the sidelines with no voice."& isn't that a wonderful thing? the self promotion, game analysis (only after wins of course) & criticisms of other teams get boring after a point.
Leave Crush alone - any chance the PDA Dragon/MJ Crush highlights get posted before PDA tryouts?
Bracketology Posted:March 20, 2014 at 3:47 PMNJ CUP (6 out of 8)Holmdel NJX CelticNJ Wildcats AverbuchPDA DragonsInternational Girls Futbol AcademyRage Premier FreedomJersey Premier Soccer FlashPDA StormTSF Academy==============================NY CUP (7 out of 8)Atletico FC Girls '01East Meadow Soccer Club Sky BlueWorld Class FC '01 CharltonEast Meadow Soccer Club HotshotzMassapequa Soccer Club Lil' RowdiesAlbertson Soccer Club Fury 01 RedIntense Soccer Academy BrazilNew York Soccer Club G01==============================PA NCS CUP (1 out of 4)WCUSC PredatorsFC Revolution ForcePenn Legacy 01 Black FPA Classics Academy 01
1:45, who wins NY Cup, and why?
How do they determine Home Field for State Cup?Ajax and JPL were both home for 2 out of 3 games, but Ajax has home field for Quarter finals.
1;23 whose daughter was at tryouts any truth to the 800 non refundable???
Great game between Crush and PDA Dragons last night. Very evenly matched, both teams had opportunities and great defensive plays. Unfortunately, one team has to lose but should feel proud of their effort and execution.Parents for both teams were very supportive and cordial to each other. Good luck Dragons moving forward.
Did they give the Dragon parents a tour of the CrushCopter?
To me the winner of WC/EM (pre-ECNL showdown) will win the NY Cup.NYSC in EDP action vs WC/EM/Albertson is 0-1-2. They don't look to be in good form currently (results).Albertson lost to WC and didn't play EM because EM backed out according to JAGS website.What do you think?
Funny that you should ask, but my winner is going be....
At MF tryouts there was no conversation/discussion with the parents at all - and I don't believe deposits and such were discussed with the 12 year old girls.at this point, I putting the $800 non-refundable deposit concept in the 'urban myth' category.
out of the 8 team what is your prediction about New Jersey cup?
Storm vs AjaxDragons vs NJXStorm vs NJX Final. This time NJX goes out with a bang and wins it
I think PDA will win all three girls brackets they entered -11, 12, 13 and that wil be impressive. Storm needs to pull itself together and start playing some better soccer to pull it off.
IGFA, and the best u12 player in the state!
Maybe its discussed when an offer is made. The 800.
Its true NYSC is not having a good spring, but they have 4 games left in EDP, and they also have NY Cup, so its important for them to finish strong. I would not count them out of a top 3 finish in EDP, and a finalist in the NY Cup...
Igfa website tryouts talks about girls being selected into the ecnl?
The best u12 player in NJ is a defender.
IGFA best girl will be wearing a uniform with different letters very soon
Yes and they have best player in state
where do you see that on the IGFA web site? Half of the content was stolen from World Class anyway..
No wonder NYSC guy has been so quiet.. he was out of control in the fall. lol
http://www.intergfa.com/index.htmlLook under tryouts , hard to find , but talks ecnlTell me I'm crazy
right from the IGFA website: IGFA is hosting tryouts for Girls from U10-U12 to join its travel soccer programs for the 2012/13 season. Players will be selected to participate in our Elite Clubs National League.
If the best player in NJ is a defender, well that’s just sad, and unusual.
Anyone go to ODP tryouts last night? Your thoughts??
how was ODP ?
My honest opinion was that there were way too many girls there who were marginal players at best. Probably a third of the group had any higher level soccer experience. I assumed maybe that the tryout schedule forced a lot of girls to miss ODP? Either that or ODP is definately on the steep side of a downward spiral.
Odp is scary. Why would you need this if you pay and play at a premiere club? Is it really another 2k a year? When does it end?
The top 50 in the state do not need ODP, its a waste of resources, but the 51-100 could gain from this experience, its too bad its so expensive.
"IGFA, and the best u12 player in the state!"Yes Mom, whatever you say.If she went Matchfit or PDA, she would be just another good player.She would of course be a nice fit for either team.
Unless she was replacing your kid, you would love to have her on your team, dope.
I know PDA highly discourages odp. They believe it is up to the club to provide the right avenues and visibility for their players. Injuries come directly from this type of over abuse on the body too. You can say what you want about PDA, but this is where the time and money actually start to make some sense.
ODP is on the down in my opinion. With US Club soccer's ECNL, NPL and PL leagues that's a bunch of PDP programs and TIP that all go down the id2 path and cost a lot less.ON a side note - I think this is the year ECNL talks Relegation. The original plan was 3 clubs a year - does NPL change that?
Regrettably I know first hand about ODP & agree it's a waste of money & time. Take your money, find yourself a good trainer & you will be far better off if you seek more soccer for your kid outside current team. I know few people who went this year & hearing same that less of the top players are going ODP route nowadays. So many more options available today vs. 10 years ago when ODP was "the place to be" for elite players. That is no longer the case by far.
3:34 why you calling that cat a dope?Can't you read?PLEASE do not disparage or insult individuals by name or initials. Keep the discussion informative, lively and engaging not negative. Sincerely, Youth Soccer Talk
I think it's about time the Admin starts to block IP addresses or makes everyone register.
Our club promotes ODP and half our players go there. I have always thought it was over the top and havnt seen any results from it. I'm glad we chose not to participate, but we get pressure to.
Yes Njx goes out with two bangs, state cup loss and the team implodes at match fleece.
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