Thursday, May 19, 2016

U15 Girls Youth Soccer

U15 young women players are not playing for fun, they are playing to win.

Best to step aside, because they are about to barrel through...

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Anonymous said...

Sounds like a complete break down. We've all had at least one along the way. Can happen anywhere: Hammonton, Disney, or Colorado. Glad to see PA represented.

Anonymous said...

9-1 is a tough one to swallow. They are mowing through everyone but you would expect a better showing in the semis.

Anonymous said...

Can someone from LVU post and give some insight of what happened there? Not looking to be negative about anything, just curious, like was there a red card or something?

Anonymous said...

For 7/17, 1:24 - Here is the link to where ODP ID lists are posted:

https://regioni.teamapp.com/schedule

Anonymous said...

Congrats to North Union United Wave for its Presidents Cup championship!

Anonymous said...

6:50 why not ask the guy who knew PDA South went to PKs.

Anonymous said...

Who the hell is North Union United?

Anonymous said...

6:50 hahaha, good one... did you crush baby-chickens as a child??

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen LVU play in a long time. But back in the day (2-3 years ago) they used to rely on their keeper to keep the games close and rely on the speedy forward to score all the goals. The midfield never seemed very effective. They've always been susceptible to the occasional 5-1 thumping based on whether the forward could be neutralized or not.

That all being said, they should be commended for making it as far as they did. Bravo!

Anonymous said...

LVU was a substitute team. Didnt even qualify

Better NPL teams were left home

Anonymous said...

So far the GDAs for NJ are PDA out of Bernardsville & Matchfit out of Morris Plains. Some questions:

- what uniforms will be worn?
- if your daughter makes team but no scholarship, dues get paid to whom?
- who will talent evaluators be?
- what is risk of poaching for non-PDA or non-Matchfit girls on team if they make it?

Anonymous said...

uh.........what?

Anonymous said...

11:41 Better EDP NPL team ran scared from NEFC and a chance to play maybe one of the best teams in the country. This is just my opinion NPL better option than National Cup just look at boys ECNL the NPL champions are in not the Nation Cup qualifiers and I believe this will also be done in the Girls ECNL next season this is why SouthShore Select joined the New England NPL.

11:55 for MF i would think a patch on existing uniforms for PDA I would think SkyBlue uniform. I think all the players not on scholarship are paying for the players on scholarship, coaches and other fees. The Club will evaluate their team and pick the players for their GDA team why would you ask curious? I still think NJ will get another club or 2. If you look at Boys DA 8 NY teams and 3 NJ teams, NY not as strong as NJ when it comes to girls soccer soif you look just at ECNL that's 5 clubs room for another 3. PA has 3 ECNL clubs with I believe 4 BDA clubs so at least 3 more added in PA also

Anonymous said...

Wow just saw the score posted for the NPL final. Another 9-1 result for NEFC. That is either very impressive for NEFC or there was some weak competition there. You are right, the Wildcats are better served going next week if they want to return with a trophy. I did see a bit of one of the NEFC games at the recent PDA tournament and I was impressed with them but these results are pretty crazy. I guess we know why Messi isn't playing for Argentina anymore. He must be in process of transitioning and now plays for the NEFC U14 girls team.

Now they need to set up a match between NEFC and So Cal Blues and stream it live That would be a good one.

Congrats NEFC.

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable run by NEFC for sure, but if Wildcats are to get a trophy they will have to beat Boston Scorpions who beat NEFC in the Mass state cup

Anonymous said...

Bottom line is Cats have to stand up now. how good are they really.

Anonymous said...

Scorpions grab any available top guest player they are allowed,

Wildcats needed to do the same

We'll see if they did

Anonymous said...

U13 NJ Rush (soon to be SJEB Rush u15) also super impressive with a 8-0 win in the finals and 23-0 throughout the entire tournament.

Sorry, NYSC Guy.

Anonymous said...

THEY USED GUEST PLAYERS, THE LAWS OF REAL SOCCER MEN, DO NOT ALLOW THAT, YES THEY ARE A GREAT TEAM, WE HAD A BAD DAY, AND YES I KNOW I AM TYPING IN CAPS. THANKS!

Anonymous said...

Well according to your post you had MEN playing, if you ask me, that's worse.

Anonymous said...

NJ Rush 02 NPL won the NPL Championship. Not NJ Rush 02 Blue (soon to be SJEB Rush) and not NJ Rush 02 Grey. A collaboration between both teams to play NPL together this season. Great partnership between two strong teams.

Anonymous said...

We clobbered SJEB 5-0 last time we played them. Was their NT player playing defense that day? Oh yeah, I remember her now, my daughter was helping her off the ground several times. She is very sweet that way, helping-up national team players, she is a good egg.

Anonymous said...

2:09 you'll see that next season in the ECNL as NEFC elite aka Boston Breakers will join.

NEFC beat LVU at the same PDA tournament in the Finals 4-0. LVU beat PDA Storm to advance. I don't think NPL was weak, NEFC want to repeat before going to ECNL and wanted to leave a statement which I believe they did.

Interesting FC Boston Scorpions beat NEFC in MA state cup. why does US club send some state direct to Nationals and others to regionals to play and team that enters?

Anonymous said...

PDA is not out of Bernardsville and MFA is not out of Morris Plains. Those are the addresses for some admin. Not sure if PDA DA will be out of Rutgers or at PDA. MFA DA I would assume will be in Denville. They both have a year to figure that out.

Anonymous said...

next up

National Cup XV Finals
Aurora, CO
July 22-25, 2016


Group A
Seacoast United Elite - Dr- 01/02
Lonestar 03G Red
ASA '01G ATLETICO FC
STA NPL 01G

Group B
FC Boston Scorpions u14 ECNL
Samba WOODBURY SOCCER CLUB
NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL
Pittsburgh Riverhounds Development Academy

Anonymous said...

followed by

US Youth Soccer National Championships
Frisco, TX
July 26-30, 2016

Group A
PSG MI Gators 02 Orange
CUP Gold 01/02
Florida Elite 01/02
BRYC 01 Elite

Group B
Greater Binghamton United FC
Tennessee SC 20
USA Stars 02
Waza FC East 02 Black

Anonymous said...

Who at SJEB is a national team player ? I thought she went to PF last year.

Anonymous said...

154 is referring to players attending the 03/02 YNT pool training in CO this past month. That is only training.

The actually YNT's currently are U15,U17,U18,19,20, below is the U15 YNT that will compete at the 2016 CONCACAF. 3 from PDA

U15 YNT: http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/05/13/21/53/160513-u15-gnt-heads-to-the-northwest-for-third-camp-of-2016

As for the U17 YNT they head to the youth world cup. 1 from PDA

U17 YNT: http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/07/03/13/30/160703-u17wnt-heads-to-north-carolina-to-continue-world-cup-prep

All these info can be found on USsoccer.com

Keep up with the correct info.

Anonymous said...

Hey 2:11 since you want us to keep up with the correct info which link is correct?

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/05/13/21/53/160513-u15-gnt-heads-to-the-northwest-for-third-camp-of-2016

http://www.ussoccer.com/us-under15-girls-national-team/roster#tab-1

By the roster page we have
2 PDA
1 WorldClass
1 BRYC
1 MatchFit

PS. only because I want to bust your horns, is PDA Storm another club? Why is it that all the other players just say PDA but the u15s? Can you please keep us current.

Anonymous said...

And for those of you that like watching this age group


Live - 2016 Broadcast Schedule

2016 US Youth Soccer National Championships | Frisco, Texas*
*Subject to change

Tuesday, July 26
U14G CUP Gold 01/02 OH-S vs BRYC 01 Elite VA Field 6 LIVE
U14G PSG MI Gators 02 Orange vs MI Florida Elite 01/02 FL
U14G Greater Binghamton United FC NY-W vs USA Stars 02 CA-N Field 8 LIVE

Thursday, July 28
U14G Tennessee SC 20 TN vs USA Stars 02 CA-N
U14G Waza FC East 02 Black MI vs Greater Binghamton United FC NY-W

SEMIFINALS - Saturday, July 30
U14G TBD TBD
U14G TBD TBD

FINALS - Sunday, July 31

U14G TBD TBD

Anonymous said...

For this age group

ECNL national championships = 2 games
NPL national championships = 0 games
USYSA national championships = 8 games


Let's see how much does a game cost a team to purchase?
We again can see a clear picture.

USYSA has been under attack for a longtime but every time i compare they are always about the players from their ODP teams to their league pyramid and somehow they are always the gotsoccer chaser teams and their platforms stink

ODP State level teams participate in tournament that advances to regional semi-finals and national finals.

ODP regional teams play internationally just like the WNT teams do.

Regional Leagues are equal to if not more competative than some NPLS

National league same platform as ECNL

USYSA nationals might be the best national event out there eligible to ALL USYSA members if they qualify (win meaningful games).

Anonymous said...

Very lame that NPL did NOT film their finals, very lame, incredibly lame, super-really lame...

Anonymous said...

Absolutely lame. Even the semis should be streamed. It promotes the event. How difficult would it be

Anonymous said...

I have watched several USYSA live streamed games, including the regional championships and the Presidents Cup championship. Considering the players really are just kids, the play by play commentators are not bad and the video tracking of the flow of the game is actually easy to follow. They even use an instant replay, although it is not quite instantaneous. All in all, decent televised games to watch.

Anonymous said...

So was thinking about all these outside activities from the club that are available like odp and looked at region one. Only seems 1-2 girls from nj are repeat customers on the region one team. Not sure if comp got stronger or weaker. So i was hoping some peeps here could shed some light on cost time benefit to do the outside programs.

So we have odp state and odp region, red bulls training and showcase teams, pdp and pdp select, nextgen and nextgen showcase, id2, national training center, nt camps. Any i missed?

Would love to hear thoghts both positive and negative about these programs. Mine stopped going to odp trainings because the quality was so far below her team training.

She has liked red bulls a lot except for the fact that they play with boys who dont pass to girls.

Anonymous said...

My 2 cents on ODP

1. You make the state team you are eligible for region1 camp cost about $600 for 10 2 hour sessions or $30 per hour not to expensive for extra touches.

2. If State team is good team can advance to DE for semi-finals and or nationals pay for just travel.

3. Go to region 1 camp $600 same as most college ID camps plus transportation.

4. Make region 1 team pay for just travel and might play internationally vs other NTs/foreign clubs

5. Make NT pool and put your name on the "A" list for colleges.

ODP is not about the training in my opinion, more about the opportunities to showcase yourself, some states stronger than others.

ODP is what you make of it, might be really great or sub-par.

The one thing it is for sure is another avenue.

Anonymous said...

This comment is pretty fair. Cost is not that different from other high level training opportunities. Regional tourney costs about the same as any tourney you travel to once you figure in travel/hotel expenses (and I don't have to go if I don't want to so I can have my weekend); ODP camp is the same or cheaper than a college ID camp on a per diem basis and if she performs, will get her as much or more attention from colleges. The social aspects and confidence you get from ODP is beneficial too.

If your club is putting your kid up for ID2/PDP/NTC, then you probably don't need ODP but since all of those paths are based on what the club decides, ODP is a better option for those players who have the talent but the club does not promote.

Anonymous said...

The nice thing about ODP is that it is not the same old group of girls that you train with day in day, year after year. My daughter loves the opportunity to train with girls who are not necessarily looking to take her place. Although the region camp can be stressful with respect to the ID process, I think the girls realize that they are not really trying to knock each other out, but rather trying to standout. The evaluators also look for more than just skills. My daughter said that at camp she was sent off with a group of girls and told to have a kick around or 3v3 game. This was "free play". The other girls starting goofing off and my daughter tried to keep them on task. Little did they know, they were actually being evaluated on how well they handled themselves when left along.

Anonymous said...

How many College coaches are at Region 1 Camp watching? Not too many if any. So is it better then a college ID camp?
Anyone that played ODP may pay and go to the Region camp , so like 10:57 stated there will be girls there that may not have the commitment your child does. So it is a waste for your child and even if your child was trying to stay on task she will now be lumped in with the girls goofing off.
At a college ID camp hopefully by this age all the girls there want a shot at going to the college to play soccer. So the commitment will be there.
I also think it is better to go to the ID camps not the sleep over camps.

Anonymous said...

ID2 is great if, as someone said already, your club promotes your kid. ODP remains the only ID venue where your kid can get in on her own. Despite arguments to the contrary, he politics are minimal at region 1 camps. No club coaches are regional coaches. The coaches of the regional teams are all college coaches so at a minimum, there are 9 or more college coaches watching your kid. This year, a UVA assistant was there and I think they all are D1 coaches.

The Boca interregional is very cost effective. It's a week long and there are a ton of coaches there. With only 2 games going on synchronously the coaches are pretty much lining the fields. USSF scouts are there also. My older one has been to several events and there is clearly shuffling of the roster from year to year. Some kids at Boca one year, not in the pool the next and in the pool but not Boca the next, for example. Some kids drop out after having not made it for a year after making it the year before. Sure there is a "core" of maybe 8-10 kids who have found the program beneficial to their development in some way who have been to Boca for several years, but the roster is not locked down from year to year.

Anonymous said...

8:36 - The one year my kid went to Region 1 camp, her coach was there and no he is not also a college coach.

Anonymous said...

There were some very good players in the 2001 group this year, the number of top players dropped from about 15 last year to about 4 or 5 this year. I think the word is out that NJ ODP is not what it is in other parts of the USA.

My daughter will not be going back, it's on her resume for a few years and that's it.

The Carli Lloyd story only goes so far...

Anonymous said...

From what I know this would be my ranking brackets regarding exposure and quality:

Nt camp

Id2

Region 1
Pdp select

Red bulls showcase
Nextgen showcase

Pdp
State odp
Red bulls
Nextgen


Anonymous said...

Not sure how many other clubs do this, but our club discourages any program other than USNT call-ups, that's it.
Is this common, does PDA or World Class not actively endorse their best players to outside ID platforms?

Anonymous said...

Match fit and pda had 3 girls at id2. Mf had region one kids. Not sure wc.

Anonymous said...

PDA encourages their kids to do whatever they can. MFA prohibits ODP, I don't think PDA does. they both encourage all of the ID/PDP stuff that the leagues they are in offer plus other stuff.

Anonymous said...

Nike does an ECNL event that I would put right below national team events.

Anonymous said...

Thats nike national training camp ecnl+id2. I would put that between national team and national camp. Good call.

Anonymous said...

Of the U14 (2002) Girls ODP Final Pool selects, the top three clubs with the most representation are East Meadow (x7), Empire United (x4), and PF (x3). This based on 2015-2016 rosters. A number of clubs including CFC, South Shore, VA Rush, BRYC, and FC Copa, have two representatives. PDA has one representative from Shore.

Anonymous said...

Where do you see this list

Anonymous said...

That is last years breakdown, they just picked a new pool for ODP. I'm not sure who made what and from what team yet as there was some movement around.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats having very tough go of it in Colorado, STA looking very good.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Wildcats are a huge disappointment as usual. Good regular season team but when it counts coach just can't get it done

Anonymous said...

National Cup XV Finals - U14

Group A
6pts +3 STA NPL 01G
3pts +1 Lonestar 03G Red
3pts +1 ATLETICO FC
0pts -6 Seacoast United Elite - Dr- 01/02

Group B
6pts +5 FC Boston Scorpions u14 ECNL
4pts +2 WOODBURY SOCCER CLUB Samba
1pt -2 NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL
0pts -5 Pittsburgh Riverhounds Development Academy

I agree STA looking good vs a u13 team and the 4th place team in the new England NPL with Long Island Atletico left to stand in their way. No disrespect to any of the teams but 6 of the teams are from region 1 with a MN and TX team thrown in not exactly what i would call a national event.

Anonymous said...

Isn't this supposed to be open to all the state champs? Where is everyone ?

Anonymous said...

I think there were more state champs there last week. Maybe that's why?

Anonymous said...

Wildcats lost today to top 10 team in country. I agree with poster talking about where are the teams? How is this national? I guess the npl was the one to be in last week?

Anonymous said...

Top 10? according to what ranking?

Gotsoccer has them at 667
http://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=1549323

Youth Soccer has them at 509
http://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=1549323

Am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

Sorry gotsoccer
http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team_prev.aspx?teamid=779576

Anonymous said...

Got Soccer #1 team in the country Jersey Shore Boca? Really?

Anonymous said...

It's the Boca and manalapan njsca elite parent coaches who are posting these idiotic posts. The fc Boston Scorpions team that beat wildcats 2 to 0 also just beat nefc in mass state cup final. And nefc rolled Lehigh Valley and Florida elite both by 9 to 1 scores in npl finals last weekend.

Anonymous said...

The scorpions are an ecnl team. Used to be called Boston breakers at u13.

Anonymous said...

10:34 if the 7:24 post is accurate then Wildcats played/lost to Woodbury. Scorpions or Breakers played Pittsburgh and won 5-0. They will have their chance with them shortly, but if they couldn't beat Woodbury, they may not want to face Boston. Waiting for some excuse.

Stop bringing up Boston beat NEFC. It was one game. NEFC's body of work over the last 12 months is nothing short of impressive. Better than Boston for sure. They are allowed to slip up occasionally. It would seem they just had an off day. Only other team to beat them was South Shore. What they did at the NPL finals very impressive.

Anonymous said...

1209 please get your facts straight. Wildcats did not lose to woodbury minn team friday. Wildcats led most of game 1 to 0 until woodbury got a penalty kick with 30 seconds left and converted to tie wildcats 1 to 1.and no one said anything against nefc they are a fantastic team. Probably best team in region 1. Point was to show scorpions ecnl team is also one of the top teams if they were able to defeat them recently as nefc has
blown out some very competitive teams at npl finalls.

Anonymous said...

Looks like wildcats just can't put the ball in the net this tournament. Better luck next year

Anonymous said...

Guess you are wrong again.Wildcats beat western pa 5 to 0 today. Finished 2nd in their bracket behind
F boston Scorpions ecnl.

Anonymous said...

What was Score of scorpions ecnl vs woodbury Minnesota today.

Anonymous said...

Didn't everyone beat up on Western PA.?

Anonymous said...

Minn beat them 2 to 0. Much closer game. Also wildcats 2nd in bracket so in 8 team bracket don't they receive semifinal points. That should keep you up tonight you sick fat ass bitch.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to STA. Up 2-0, Atletico battled back for a 3-2 leaf and had the lead for much of the second half. Somehow, inexplicably the ref added almost 7 mins to the second half. STA scores at the whistle to salvage the draw and advance. Never heard of that much time being added at end of game. Atletico would have advanced with the win. Tough way to go down. No knock on STA, they didn't give up but officiating was terrible. Good luck to STA IN FInal

ATLETICO Dad.

Anonymous said...

Why would the Wildcats play NPL if the prize for winning your league is NPL Finals?
Why would the Wildcats enter NJ Cup when the prize is the National Cup?

They should be punished for not representing their "league" in a national event.

If your league rewards it's champion with a chance at a National title why would a team to choose to enter a 2nd National event if they weren't prepared to play in both? That is all you need to know about this team. I could careless what they accomplished at the end of the day they turned their back on their league to play in a tournament that is only a national event in name only. STA or FC Boston will be National Champions just like North Union United from PA is make what you will of the title if National Cup is legit with it's Pay to Play format then the USYSA President's cup is legit also for the teams that picked the event just below the NCS.

If a team plays in NCS then Region1 tournament is the goal with Texas as the grand prize.
If team plays ERL then NL and Region1 tournament is the goal with Texas as the grand prize
If a team plays NL then NC, Disney and if they qualify for Texas are the prizes

If a team plays ECNL then the prize is the playoffs with the grand prize the championships

If a team plays NPL then the grand prize is the NPL Finals

If a team plays USC State Cup then National Cup is the grand prize
If a team PAYS for USC Regional event then the National cup is the grand prize

Why would a team enter multiple events if they have to plan to honor them? This is why the Wildcats will never have respect from me an anonymous poster on this board.

You don't shit where you eat and the EDP has been your league for years and has awarded many GS points to this team that has helped them get their F1 status at major events and then to slap the EDP in the face and not represent them at their major event in CO, well to me that's just wrong. Don't enter if you are not prepared to travel. Just go to the EDP website they posted your team as Champion going to the Finals because they were proud of their team.

Good luck STA I hope you win!!

Anonymous said...

Scorpions ecnl beat woodbury Minnesota 3 to 0 today to advance to final.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats would not have done any better than LVU in the NPL finals. They chose to do the lesser tournament for whatever reason. That is their choice. It would be a lot to ask for them to stay in CO for 2+ weeks.

5:42 are you really bragging about finishing tied for second out of 4 in a less than stellar field?

Anonymous said...

Btw if you beat a Pittsburgh team, they will embarrass themselves in a hotel! So keep crushing people!

Anonymous said...

What?

Anonymous said...

To answer previous questions from July 22 about ODP pools, the links to the ODP ID lists are now posted on the Region I website under the Programs and ODP tabs. These rosters only provide name and state association. The following club representation statistics for the U14 (2002) Girls ODP Final Pool selects are for the upcoming 2016-2017 season: East Meadow (x7), Empire United (x4), and PF (x3). These statistics are based on 2015-2016 club rosters. A number of clubs including CFC, South Shore, VA Rush, BRYC, and FC Copa, each have two representatives. For the U13 (2003) group about to become U14s, South Shore leads the way with 4 selects followed by Kirkwood with 3 selects. Many clubs have two selects, including PF, CFC, Richmond Strikers, Seacoast United, FC Boston, and Cherry Hill. The club affiliation information is not directly available. It takes an evening with absolutely nothing better to do and a little bit of research to match names with club affiliation through state association announcements, club announcements, and published rosters (e.g. Gotsoccer, NilNil, club websites, etc.). Because many of the 2016-2017 team rosters are not yet available, most of the above club affiliation information is based on where the girls played in 2015-2016. However, many 2016-2017 rosters are now posted and there is some interesting movement afoot.

Anonymous said...

Is it truly that difficult to make a regional pool? Considering so many top players dont even do ODP.

Anonymous said...

ODP has become has loss credibility the past decade, some states run it better than others and help identify regional players better particularly NY & VA who still run decent ODP programs. Many girls attending the US training centers do not even bother with it and I've heard of girls that have been invited to training centers and ID2 camps and not even get selected for state/region level ODP. It's just another avenue to be seen it's technically not ODP(Olympic) anymore just supplemental training if you want to spend the extra $. It's a good to place on your resume and that's about it, it's a rarity now that the program feeds the national youth teams. It would be smart if USYS revamps the programs into the girls DA league model and help identify players for DA instead of it's current model.

Anonymous said...

There were many players from the top level teams within ECNL clubs that were not selected for the Region pools. If the presumption is that your a "top player" if you pay ECNL, then I suppose that it is somewhat difficult to make a Region pool. It all depends on the definition of "top player". Not all players have the connections or the profile to be "invited" to a U.S. Training Center, but all youth soccer players can "choose" to participate in ODP. ODP is open competition, whereas U.S. Training Centers is closed competition.

Anonymous said...

Even politics gets some "invited" to the TC's. Parents go to their kids coach hounding them for one because they think their kid deserves it. Some coaches unfortunately do not have a backbone. Being invited back once there is where politics no longer stands a chance as their club coach no longer has a say. Definitely gives some of these parents a much needed reality check.

Anonymous said...

1147 US Training Centers are not closed competition there are non-ECNL players attending them as well it all falls if the club DOC has the credibility to promote a player there.

Anonymous said...

Okay, I am a parent who needs a reality check, and since my kids club apparently does not even participate in id2 or PDP, what am I suppose to do?? Should I write to them and say, hey, my kid wants a shot at more, or should we do it without their knowledge, knowing they might find out eventually. There is a bit of elitism going on between our club and these other programs, and I am not sure why, it should be a good thing that their players are playing at the top programs, no???

I am not the ultimatum type, but I have to be an advocate for my child, what should I do???

Anonymous said...

What does this mean, exactly:

Not all players have the connections or the profile to be "invited" to a U.S. Training Center.

Anonymous said...

2:00 rely on knowing that if her talent level is deserving of it that your coach would send in a recommendation (without feeling pressured). If you have to seek one out chances are what you see and what others see isn't at the same level. If you don't trust or value your daughters coach then I suggest finding a new one. There's always ODP and ID camps that as long as you're willing to pay for its at least a way for her to be seen.

Anonymous said...

I think 2:00 was intimating that their club or coach doesn't reccomend. I know that is the case with some clubs that fear parents will get pissed and leave even if they are the 8th best kid. Every parent over estimates their kids level so if they think they are top 3 and deserving even if they are really #8 its tough to have rational converstaions. At PDA its not an issue there are 2 kids for every open spot. At smaller clubs its tougher.

Anonymous said...

Talk about waste of money & time! Going out to Colorado to play in a "National Championship" that had nothing "national" to it & not even making it out of bracket, ouch!

Anonymous said...

Any TDS member care to share the 2020 top 150 list with the blog?

Anonymous said...

What crap, 2:52. Coaches and DOCs do not look after the best interest of every child on thier teams and you must be the delusional one if you think that is the case. Do you really live in a fairy tale world where the coaches always treat each player fairly and never play favorites? At our club, NTC recommendations are based partly on talent but as much or moreso on how long you've been at the club and how much you interact with the DOC, either kissing up or bitching about how your little Messi isn't being promoted enough. But I've seen firsthand and heard of other cases where a NTC invitee and a non-invitee have gone to an objective camp, e.g., ODP, ID clinics, non-club training, etc. and the non-invitee has been acknowledged as the standout. Not saying that's always the case but only a fool believes that it doesn't happen and you should just blindly trust your coach to take care of your child.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 2:52, and yes 3:16, my kids club only allows participation in NT camps or teams, apparently they don't send to id2 or Pdp, we really like the training, but I think their club ego is getting in the way.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 3:35, you are the devil on my right shoulder, the angel issue tells me to trust the club, that they know best, but this is our one and only time through this process, and she wants more....

Anonymous said...

2 PM

Yes, have a frank discussion with your daughter's coach. Ask if it is possible that she get put forward as a candidate for PDP

Anonymous said...

3:45, I will, but they don't participate in Pdp, don't want to do it secretly, stay tuned.

Anonymous said...

From U.S. Soccer about how to be invited to a training center:

"Players are identified by our scouting network and invited based on their performance with their respective club teams. Players must first prove they can be successful in a competitive club environment before being invited."

Not every player who is or could be a so-called top player plays on a top team or for a top club, or even a competitive travel team. Such players who do not have a high "profile" to be seen and scouted, or a "connection" through a coach, DOC, or club that makes recommendations, which some do not to avoid playing favorites, will receive an invitation.

Anonymous said...

STA loses 4-3 to Boston. Now that is a good game. Not 2-0 like Wildcats coach tried to spin his loss. Wildcats had much better season than STA but when it counted coach just can't win.

Anonymous said...

Good game, and good season STA!

Go NYCSL, except for Massapequa, they don’t count.

At least you guys got a chance to go to Colorado, heard the food was great, lots of good herbs

Anonymous said...

Great weather all week. Dry and cool at night. Low humidity. Heard it was a hot week for you guys back east. We loved colorado
Rocky Mountains here are really something.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like you guys had a blast.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely! I agree. I guarantee TC invites are sometimes influenced by kissing up to Coaches/DOC's. The invite won't keep them in it though. Oniy a players technical skill, soccer iq ect will. My kid attends the TC's and said it's not hard to tell who doesn't belong. If it's obvious to a player it's obvious to those national coaches. Those players are usually not there long. Same applies in other areas of advancement within the sport (ODP being one).

Anonymous said...

Averbuch, Averbuch, Averbuch. We cannot get enough bashing of the better teams in the region, I will not say nation, but in region. And in the state top 4 at the least? yes, Colorado did not go as planned, but they trained 4 times per week to prepare. They worked real hard, great training, great fitness, great coaching. They will continue to play top flights at CASL, Betheseda, just did at FC Delco and Jeff cup. What else you can ask for is beyond me. Wildcats Parent

Anonymous said...

Happy hour came early today...cheers!

Anonymous said...

03:38 AMEN BROTHER !!!!

Anonymous said...

Good stuff Wildcats parent. And if that is what you are looking for, then great. Just no need to bash the teams that play at the level above you. We are all paying the same for soccer. Everyone should be happy with their choice and live with it. Enjoy the summer.

Anonymous said...

I have one last thing to ask, please shut-up, and go away.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I know! But the training is better......

Anonymous said...

3:38 Yeah right, there are 3 PDA and 2 MF teams that are better than the wildcats... i might be missing a team or two.

Anonymous said...

You still in colorado? Pda has one team. Mfa 0 teams that can beat averbuch.

Anonymous said...

5:03. You must be counting PDA Shore as one of the 3 teams better than Wildcats because if I remember correctly didn't the Wildcats beat Ajax to win state cup. Yes the same Ajax team that ran away with the NPL division

Anonymous said...

First off PDA Shore beat Wildcats in EDP play recently I believe. Storm hasn't played Wildcats in awhile but we can assume they could beat them. That leaves Dragons and/or Ajax. Dragons seemed to have a down year so I wouldn't count them. Ajax and Wildcats went to overtime in state cup so sounds pretty even in their only match recently. Small samples so hard to say with 1 game to go on, but likely all could win on any given day.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats beat pda shore 6 to 0 in their only head to head game at u14. That was in edp league play this year.

Anonymous said...

Top 8- next year teams

1 PDA ECNL
2 PDA South
3 PDA NPL
4 STA
5 Wildcats
6 Jersey Shore BOCA
7 Match Fit ECNL
8 Galaxy

Anonymous said...

Is that 01 or 02

Anonymous said...

7:30 My apologies, You are correct it was 14 months ago at U13, 2 weeks after losing to the Dragons in the State cup. Sorry for my confusion and inaccurate post.

Anonymous said...

9:30 - - You're lost... 1 & 2 are '01 PDA ECNL and '01 MF ECNL. Having MF ECNL at #7 shows you know nothing about soccer at this level.
Those 2, by far, will dominate all the rest of the teams you have on the list.

What have you been sniffing?

Anonymous said...

Don't sleep on nj rush their 02 team will be one of the best sides next year.

Anonymous said...

Not sure how strong mf 02 ecnl team will be. They had mostly 01 players on u14 ecnl team.Pda 02 will be better next year.

Anonymous said...

You NJ people just need to go to the beach and give it a rest!!
Take a break for God's sake! Stop living vicariously through your daughters from whatever campground you're drinking at!

Anonymous said...

3:38 - Do you think practicing 4 times at the end of a long year really helps the girls? According to gotsoccer this team played roughly 41 games over the past year. After playing that many games then going to 4 days a week practices is a good way to burn girls out.

I have seen this team play in person, lost to my D's team everytime. Coaching is not great.So I wonder how the training really is. By Fitness I wonder if you me running? That is not what you do. You dont run the girls to get them in better shape. You do fast drills to get them moving. Running is a HS thing. That is what HS coaches do.

Anonymous said...

PDA Shore picked up very strong players from outside and inside the club.The team should be a top team.

Anonymous said...

9:30 your list is for 2002 or 2001?

I'll have some fun with it but need to know which age group you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

So is this a 2001 or 2002 blog, I need to know which teams to anonymously critique, for no apparent reason.

Anonymous said...

New top 10 for 2002 NJ soccer:

1 Crush
2 Boca
3 STA
4 Manalapan
5 GGG
6 Rush
7 PDA Ecnl
8 MF Ecnl
9 Princeton IGA
10 Stallions

Anonymous said...

Sorry it's way to pre-mature to rank 2002's or 2001's. Many teams will not even see other especially the ENCL clubs. Also why are we just ranking NJ shouldn't we look at the region NEFC, FC Mass, East Meadow will be as strong or stronger than many of those top 10 8:39. Remember schools don't recruit by only one state!

Anonymous said...

Sorry but the top 3 '02 teams in NJ next year will be Rush, PDA ECNL and PDA South. Not sure what order until we see them play.

Anonymous said...

7:47 thanks for your expert advice but our trainer forgot more than you know about soccer specific conditioning and fitness, LOL.

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Anonymous said...

I like the 9:30 post: This will be accurate I believe, 02 girls we are talking about. PDA shore changed completely for 02, cause U14 went 01. NJ Rush Blue is not 02? and remember great PA teams are out there as well.

1 PDA ECNL
2 PDA South
3 PDA NPL
4 STA
5 Wildcats
6 Jersey Shore BOCA
7 Match Fit ECNL
8 Galaxy

Anonymous said...

And remember top 4 at state cup, Boca, Galaxy, Ajax and Averbuch. And if you do not enter state cup just shut up. And if not in top group for state cup shut up. STA tied Boca recently and lost to Boca in state cup play. Otherwise remember all these pda teams and MF teams are hard to play. Galaxy has new make up, so does Averbuch, Boca lost couple of players, MF and PDA storm lost a couple as well. Things will change for sure.

Anonymous said...

221 Remember great NY teams as well (World Class, NEFC, East Meadow) NJ Rush Blue merges with SJEB 02's so I would put them right up there in the top 10 in NJ as well.

Anonymous said...

Pda storm and rush blue will be one and two.

Just watched first half of rush blue vs socal blues. I saw the 5-0 score line and was disappointed because i thought nj could compete better. So here are some initial thoughts.

Skill wise i thought rush was superior to the blues. Athletically the blues were tough to match up with but nothing ridiculous.

3 goals on corners. One on a long ball to run. Obvious they practice these plays and had a serious advantage.

The long ball aspect of the blues was disappointing. These kids are not that good skill wise and once the athleticism evens out they will no longer be valuable players. Not impressed.

Blues suprised rush with physicality.

Blues defense plays really well.

Blues well trained to execute system but not good foot skills creativity or flare.

Proud of rush for sticking to their game plan. A lot of skill on that team.

Surprised that rush talent was that evenly distributed. Did not notice any real standouts or weak links.



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Anonymous said...

9:30 here that was for 2002

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Anonymous said...

3:30, 3:40 having convo with himself.

I just heard MF lost another player to pda for 02 team. Why are people leaving MF.

Pa parent

Anonymous said...

PA parent. Yeah right. The level of hatred spewed by PDA towards MatchFit and Wildcats is beyond the pale. If this is an example of the type of class of PDA parents and coaches than you deserve each other.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or would the level of sense contained in that post be unregisterable on a micrometer?

Anonymous said...

As you can see they lack even the decency to be embarrassed by their behavior.

Anonymous said...

I am PA Parent

Yes I am curious why a player would leave one ecnl club for another. Seems that I hear top players leave for pda for match fit often. Why?

Anonymous said...

Just as often players leave PDA for MatchFit as vice versa. Why do you think they leave?
Playing time always.

Anonymous said...

Come on pda guy,oops I meant pa guy you should know the answer to your own question.

Anonymous said...

Seems top players leave match fit for pda, lower level players leave pda for match fit

Anonymous said...

9:35 - What are you talking about? Where are your facts? That's simply not true.

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Anonymous said...

More times you see non ECNL players displacing ECNL players on ECNL rosters - not so much the jump from one ECNL to another

I will use STA and Crush players as examples - and understand those teams had players STAY that could have made the jump - in addition to those that did jump to ECNL for fall 2016.

Anonymous said...

11 35pm, last year 2 National players on U14 left MF. Now PDA picked up striker.

Anonymous said...

If you drive from the shore area past PDA to MF practice a few times a week soon it will enter your mind why drive an extra hour to MF.I would think if MF moved to Hazlet some people would have stayed.Both teams will still be strong.

Anonymous said...

For those that live in caves, MFA relocated ECNL teams from Hazlet/Denville to all Denville. In addition, the previous coach at this age left for WC. Of course, there will be change. I don't know the details but I understand quite a few kids stayed at the club and they have added some really talented kids at 01-03 from other clubs. We shall see.

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Anonymous said...

Blog admin, please create a NJ only page
Thank you!

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Anonymous said...

IN NJ they eat their own. Any NJ team that starts to have some success will be immediately be attacked.

Anonymous said...

Ahem, you can include Long Island on that noble list, but Westchester NY is different, we love everyone!

Anonymous said...

None compare to nj. Some of these jersey sickos sound like oj on those 911 tapes.

Anonymous said...

I don't think we will be hearing from NJ RUSH much more, they were handed a beating the last three days.

Anonymous said...

Where were they playing.

Anonymous said...

6:25 - that's because the "who has the better Surf" teams (LI or Westchester) hasn't started yet. :)

Anonymous said...

No, you are right 10:26, the surf people are busy defending their brand from the SUSA, EM and ALBY fans. Seems like everyday some cynic has something negative to post, but the Surf infantry is very quick to counter, and try to shame, but that is hard to do on an Anon board. Not much about Surf being discussed here, because until they win, they are irrelevant. However, if the Surf teams to succeed, look to have many wonderful and moronic posts, enjoy your quiet-time.

P.S. Surf has not done a great job recruiting the best players in Westchester, but Suffolk branch might be competitive, good times ahead?

Anonymous said...

Boca lost 2 players to age and added 2 strong players. Plus seemed to stabilize and strengthen keeper position with an upgrade. PDA Shore merger of teams will make them stronger as well.

Anonymous said...

9:47 That's so awesome!!! I can't wait to see them play.

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Anonymous said...

Region top 10 for 2001

1. PDA ECNL
2. NEFC/ Boston Breakers
3. FC Stars
4. East Meadow ECNL
5. GFA Princeton
6. FC Boston
7. Penn Fusion ECNL
8. World Class ECNL
9. Match Fit ECNL
10. HBC Impact

2002 list

1. East Meadow ECNL
2. PDA ECNL
3. World Class ECNL
4. NEFC Boston Breakers
5. FC Stars
6. Albertson ECNL
7. PDA South
8. PEnn Fusion ECNL
9. South Shore
10. FC Boston

East meadow and Albertson may have kids playing up age group which would hurt them in rankings.


Anonymous said...

Pda 01 not nearly as strong as their 02 team next year. Bogus list.

Anonymous said...

Boca will always be a great team (good coaching and training), they had some issues lately, losing to Wall town team 3-1 and giving up many goals in recent play. Yes dad is well known of new keeper, but the keeper is certainly up to par. Pda shore I thought only sent one player to Boca? I think rest of pda shore stayed intact and moved to U16 01 birth year. Anyway, defense is the key and scoring many goals is the key, a keeper can only do so much depending on pk's, defense, so on and so forth. boca normally can score a few goals and defend well, so they should be ok. Beating Calvert and NYSC was a big coup for them in May. And again I have said before that parents, coaches and docs are crazy and a shame that kids get the brunt of that, give the new keeper a break and feel sorry for her. It is not her fault about her dad.

Anonymous said...

Which boca team?

Anonymous said...

2001 team for PDA is very good

Anonymous said...

Just saw this on Foxsoccer, what a damn disgrace:

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/two-youth-teams-apparently-fixed-a-match-at-a-tournament-072916

Damn disgrace.

Anonymous said...

All of you USYS guys better shut up about that league, because I have lost all respect for it, ALL....

If that was my kid out there I could not face her after the game, I would be mortified.

Anonymous said...

8:54 Didn't Surf Westchester take teams intact? Any new players added to those teams? Did you draw anyone from the boroughs or from
the space between you and Alleycats?

Surf could do well in the area but it's hard to break into a market chocked full of clubs.

Anonymous said...

That Foxsports Article just put a bigger dent in USYS, I'm sorry but you don't travel hours/miles for a fixed match even if it's just one game. With DA approaching, ECNL in it's glory right now followed by NPL. USYS should be a ashamed of this and should address it immediately. That National Championship has lost all credibility now and feel sorry for Syracuse Soccer Academy in our region.

Anonymous said...

Is this the same Boca team that lost to Warrington in spring EDP? What a powerhouse.

Anonymous said...

Boca keeper is new to area competition. Been playing up with the boys. Many teams with the dad is the one they upgraded from. When their keeper play is steady and strong, they compete well. When it's been inconsistent, they fall to teams like warrington. We'll see how it goes. Very unaffected by the birth year change.

Anonymous said...

3:01 Brain Dead

2001 #1 is PDA ECNL, Match Fit ECNL or NEFC

#4 is way, way behind the top 3

I am guessing your little princess is on GFA

Anonymous said...

2001 MF will be good, sorry not top 3.

Anonymous said...

What were the player adds/exits from Match Fit?

Until we know this, we know little

Anonymous said...

8:54 I can tell you this about Surf. May take a year or 2 to become a great team but the club itself is head and shoulders above the alternatives In Suffolk County Long Island. The Long Island Surf is made up of mostly Atletico and Isa players as well as a few Albertsons. How they mesh on the field remains to be seen. They will def be competitive. Most of the Coaches they are hiring are college coaches with "A" certifications. If Surf can deliver half of what they are saying, we as parents will be ahead of the game. Choices are limited In Suffolk County. Glad Surf showed up. Now we just wait and see how it plays out. Have a feeling there will be alot more players at tryouts next season.

Anonymous said...

Don't see pda 01 nearly as strong as pda 02 sorry.

Anonymous said...

Whatever age group the majority of u14 nefc team are will be best team by far. No comparison. They were head and shoulders above all others at u14. Mass has most depth of talent at u14 with nefc south Shore and fc Boston.

Anonymous said...

Also FC Stars had pretty strong side this year.

Anonymous said...

Where is BRYC 01 Elite (VA) on your list they are in the Finals of the USYSA Nationals a "true" national championship.

1. Best 4 teams from the national league (equivalent to USC ECNL)
2. Win Regional league (equivalent to USC NPL)
3. Win State then win Regional for a shot at a title (teams not in national League or regional leagues)

Teams that can hold their heads high as the beat BRYC head 2 head (only 6 out of 31 games)

3:0 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)
2:1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
2:1 PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)
2:1 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)

BRYC vs ECNL
0:1 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)
1:2 PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)
2:0 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
3:0 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)
4:0 CASL 01 ECNL (NC)
2:0 MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U14ECNL (VA)
1:0 CASL 01 ECNL (NC)
1:0 BETHESDA SC ECNL 01 (MD)

I think they should be on your list

Anonymous said...

Your first games of the new season: SD Surff Cup

U15
3 LEGENDS FC 02 ACADEMY II (CA)
0 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI NPL (NJ)

U16
1 GPS 01 GIRLS NATIONAL TEAM NORTH (MA)
1 EASTSIDE FC G01 RED (WA)

Anonymous said...

8:14 - If you don't know anything about MF 2001, I would expect them to be the same.. without any new data.

They're top 1 or 2... write it down... they added top players and lost one starter.

Anonymous said...

2001 MF added a few players from PDA Hornets, Stallions and NPL 14 team. PDA players could not crack top team, how would that be an improvement. Still rank them towards bottom but in top 10.

Pda 2002 team good, have a few good players from storm, added MF player. In top 3, east Meadow, pda, world class in any order.

Anonymous said...

10:30 Time will tell, I think you're way off.

Anonymous said...

Shame - Stallions had it going pretty good

Another example of parents lured by ECNL

Anonymous said...

Match Fit lost one starter?

I thought the NJX contingent scattered

Anonymous said...

2 NJx players stayed at Mf

Anonymous said...

Crush in the lowest bracket too..

Anonymous said...

Only 2 NJX players stayed at Mf? Such a shame and I've heard top ones had left.

Anonymous said...

Its the Crush '02s in San Diego.

Glad to hear Match Fit kept the 2 NJX players. Quality team. Strong decision on their part to stay.

Anonymous said...

NJX gave up its team to MF. 2 years later MF says adios. And there are only 2 NJX players left at MF with the others scratching their head.

Anonymous said...

Who is coaching crush 02 team?

Anonymous said...

NJX Parents and Coach drove that bus off the cliff themselves. Stop blaming MatchFit.

Anonymous said...

I think only 2 stayed, 11:33. Others decided to leave.

There shouldnt be loyalties on the club's side at this age - as players from other clubs filter in to tryouts.

NJX players shouldnt have been kept just because they had made the bold move to merge in a past season. Its still a tryout

But again - I was under the impression some of them left voluntarily - and to repeat - glad 2 of them were wise enough to stay on.

Anonymous said...

Heard those that stayed tried to go to pda but were turned down.

Anonymous said...

10:09 you are correct - but did you also notice West Coast ECNL and Crossfire Premier in the same flight? 2 of the 3 teams PDA played when they went to CA, what's up with that 10:09?


San Diego Surf Cup

U15
0 SEATTLE UNITED G02 (WA)
0 GPS NATIONAL TEAM NORTH (MA)

0 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI NPL (NJ)
3 LEGENDS FC ACADEMY II (CA)

0 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI NPL (NJ)
0 PACNW 02 MAROON (WA)

U16
1 GPS 01 GIRLS NATIONAL TEAM NORTH (MA)
1 EASTSIDE FC G01 RED (WA)

1 SANTA ROSA UNITED 01 ECNL (CA)
2 GPS 01 GIRLS NATIONAL TEAM NORTH (MA)

Anonymous said...

I am a NJX parent, yes I left. Had nothing to do with ex coach or coaches. I took my kid elsewhere because of MF. Won't air my issues.

Anonymous said...

I am a NJX parent, yes I left. Had nothing to do with ex coach or coaches. I took my kid elsewhere because of MF. Won't air my issues.

Anonymous said...

The Rush and PDA shore parents must be sniffing glue about being top teams for the 2002's! Guess we'll see come the winter tournaments see you on the pitch! No tears or screaming and yelling please!

Anonymous said...

Have fun with rush parents. They are a very big people and very obnoxious when things don't go their way.

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