9:18 - Agreesitting on the bench is no fun. Playing the game is fun.
Well said 9:18So if little Mia isn't top 20%, better start looking away from ECNLECNL is for parents'ego most of the time
slow clap for 9:18!
I am sure that each girl and their parents have that conversation. And my guess is that most parents would advise thier daughter in what they think. And then they would let their daughter make the decision. If they are unhappy they will leave for another team. We have all read about girls leaving all the time from these teams. But if they don't mind sitting every 3rd or 4th game and playing 25-40 minutes a game (as well as practicing with what are supposed to be the best girls and trainers around) then they will stay. And I don't think it is any of our business what they decide.
ECNL is the master of monetizing insecurity and status seeking. The cost of this is not only in cash.
The very core of the idea of ECNL is exclusionary, perhaps that is why USSF passed on a partnership, you think??
Certainly would not be the best way to find and develop the soccer talent that is excluded. Is that important to the USSF? I guess that remains to be seen.
Sorry, how is the very core of the idea of ECNL exclusionary?
Really, you need an explanation? No thanks, I need to go to the bathroom.
10:32. Nice drive by. Very intelligent.
what most fail to recognize is that the ECNL is run by a few club heads that have tremendous say in the league. They care about the girls but not to the point where they think it's their obligation to develop hidden gems or some real talent that just needs the right kind of naturing. They are here to to win. And this requires them to pay attention to the best girls that fit INTO THEIR SYSTEM. This is not an altruistic endeavor to develop girls for the national team. This is first and foremost a business venture and your daughter may or may not be a causality of this machine. Girls become national team players in spite of this machine- not necessary because of some internal benevolent sense of obligation. The USSF-DA although not perfect by any means, have a different mission and although it may take some time to get right, their path will leave less bodies by the side of the road simply because of economics will not be their driver.Soccer Nut
ECNL is for talented players who can finance their development and inclusion in the league. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. Just do not pretend that it is otherwise.
Soccer Nut, that is dead on. Sad but true.
I am back from the bathroom, what did I miss?
10:38. Correct. Same as any other top team before ECNL came along.soccer nut is right, there is money and politics involved. But I think there will be also with DA. this idea that DA will be so benevolent and mission oriented is a bit hard to believe. still run by humans. And probably in some cases the same humans that currently run ECNL. you'll never get the politics out.
There is everything WRONG with that, you low-life republican douche.
10:42What did you miss? Perhaps you need more TP?
The boy's side shows effort to include some players regardless of limited income. We will see what, if any effort is put in place to address the income issue by the USSF for the girl's side.
should kids soccer be free? Government sponsored? Get a clue.
boys side has huge cash behind it. girls side does not.
I assume politics in every endeavor. The question one must ask is - what is the underlying mission. How will the DA be graded. Will it be by how much money they make or how the contribute to the development cause of the US. Soccer Nut
LOL 10:43 - so so wrong about that.This is a free country. The ECNL can have their country club, just like any other country club. They are not obligated to seek out and develop the soccer talent of this country. I hope the USSF has a different mission.
There is nothing in this country that is free.
There are non profit organizations that exist to provide support and opportunities to people or groups with low incomes. You may or may not choose to be supportive of these organizations and their missions.
Speech is and that is why you can type any rubbish you want here.
Opprotuniites can be financed by groups that choose to provide them. Who said soccer be free or government sponsored? If a group wants to help develop a talented player of limited means, they can. You don't have to be involved if you choose not to be.
Where's Spelling Nazi?
"who said soccer be free..."2 plus 2 be 4 yo
Any commenst on the content instead of the grammar?
...or the misspellings? lol.
Mosst clubz hav sum sort ov skolarship availuble for those who cant afford playing
Just to get away from the socialist rhetoric briefly, let’s talk about concussions. We had a player suffer a concussion in mid October, and she is still not back with the team. She has also suffered at school, where she has missed 70% of her classes and exams. I know we all live with the specter of injury, but this case has really shaken us. I simply cannot see how her parents would ever let her come to back to play, sad.
Do those scholarships travel costs to the west coast? That weekend alone equals the team fees for the year.
meant include travel costs
Having private organizations involved is the opposite of socialism. You can stay in the country club. Those with lowly bank accounts can play somewhere other than the country club. The government can stay out of it entirely.
I have a problem with these scholarships sorry :(If the club is paying for it out of their tournaments profit - cool then the entire A team should be free. I bust my horns for my kid to play this sport and the money I pay doesn't grow on a tree - I make the sacrifices needed to budget this for my kid not for anyone else. Call it what you want - but if you can't pay not my problem
Then you probably belong at a club that does not provide scholarships. They don't keep their scholarship policy a secret until after you join the team.
9:18 Here again. Do some of you really not see the handwriting on the wall or are you just so desperate to have the elite exclusionary ECNL continue that you are in complete denial.First off when US Soccer met with ECNL before the DA was announced a few months ago it was made clear that the Federation was not going to be club based or exclusionary in any way and would not be affiliated with ECNL.Then they announced the DA for 2017 with no partnership with ECNL.At that point it was clear there was NOT going to be both the DA and ECNL working in any way together as a Level 1 and Level 2 for elite players. When the ECNL clubs then had their own meeting last week they knew that going along with this new plan was the deathnell for their monopoly on the big money for elite players. Now they have decided to fight and evidence of that is their most recent announcement that ECNL will now be starting up an ECNL League on the boys side. They are now openly competing directly with the Federation and ECNL clubs will have to choose between remaining ECNL or dropping out if they want to be part of the DA.There is a possibility this is a maneuver by the ECNL Clubs to force the Federation to come back to the table and work in conjunction with the ECNL Clubs in the new format.The point is the ECNL Clubs realize they cannot continue to rake in the big bucks without the leverage that comes with excluding the non ECNL Clubs from the table.Once these clubs are all on a level playing field and the leverage is gone all the moves like bloated rosters,etc. will no longer work with the parentsd.Remember a monopoly is never good for the consumer.
Didn't Obama administration just signed an order to ignite corporate competition I guess this goes for non-profit(HaHa) Organizations like ECNL v USSF. I just don't understand why university coaches aren't more involved in these meetings between USSF and ECNL. Shouldn't that be the goal first just like other sports adhere too basketball/football to play college first then they should determine play professionally. Simple fact USSF recruit and developme from the college ranks I'm sure you'll find many gems there like women's soccer has.
All you need to know about how spot on that post is will be answered when you see how savagely it is attacked by those at the ECNL Clubs who are desperate to keep the status quo in place and also want to keep us in the dark.
This youth sports thing is big big bucks. tht's all yo need to ignite competition. Hope it is good or the customer for once. Let's have a few high level leagues get into a price war!
So at this point with teams not formed, bye, etc. most of us don't know where in the roster rank our daughters will fall. Any thoughts on going with a big roster club and then mid way through fall if girl ends up 16-22 leaving club and going elsewhere (or focusing on different sport) etc?
I missed something here. When has any player ever been denied the chance to play ECNL?
1:08 keep in mind mid season for the 2016-17 year will be Jan/Feb with most clubs not really starting up until November. You would already have paid out the years fee by then and come March the debacle of tryout season is already in gear.
1:29 ECNL is exclusionary in that it allows only certain clubs into their league.Therein lies their monopoly and their leverage to influence players to take spots on ECNL roster even when they are between 15-24 and not usually in the mix for enough playing time to develop the necessary game experience ad confidence.Without ECNL players in those spots would just go play for a slightly weaker but still strong team who would play in the same showcase tournaments and the player would be part of the top 15 and get the necessary time to develop.As tournament play has shown there are a few teams in each of the populated states outside of the ECNL teams who can compete. If all the clubs were in the same boat those teams would draw those payers on the outside on their ECNL teams and those teams would be even more competitive.
1:29 is just trying to muddy the waters. He is not that stupid.
As I read through all of this, here is my strong opinion. I would much rather, have my daughter play 30-40 minutes, of an 80 minute game with the highest level, than play 70-80 minutes with another lower level team, it just makes sense at this point, meaning U14/15. Expose them to the best now. If not that is fine, JAGS, MOSA and lower level EDP is available, but if your girl is truly good enough, not the best, but good enough to "work with" put them with the best for as much time as you can. And remember they will be training with the best as well year round. what more can you ask for.
April 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM - Not a doctor, but a parent experienced dealing with the injury. There are varying levels of concussion severity, and the effects are very dependent on the health, conditioning, and simply unique bio-chemical makeup of the individual. Often, the injury does not heal because it is not being treated properly. Other than the blow or contact itself, the cause of the concussion symptoms can be elusive. The shock of the blow may target whatever is the weakest functioning part of the brain at the time of the blow. There may or may not be cumulative effects of cumulative concussions. Based on my experience and research, UPMC is a leader in concussion therapy.
1:45 - if you are a bench player on an ECNL team you are lucky to get 30 min a game. It is more like 20 to 25 min a game. Then now there will be those weekends or games when you dont even suit up and play. Like it has been said before here. Is it better to be 16 to 20 on ECNL and play 25 min a game or be 1 to 5 on a non-ecnl team and play 70 to 80 min a game?
Depends on the club and team. I have seen ECNL teams where players 20-25 got D1 offers. That is rare though.
I suggest you read more carefully, 1:41.Has any player, I repeat, PLAYER, ever been denied the opportunity to play ECNL?
I have no qualms with the arguments that ECNL excludes certain clubs and teams. After all, it's very true. And if the exclusion of certain clubs and teams gores your ox, I can see why it would be upsetting. I don't understand why the plight of non-ECNL clubs is your passion, but if it is, I can see why you'd be upset.But the ECNL does not exclude players. Anyone can try out. If players were denied access to the top league, that is something we could all get behind and be outraged about.But why the need to defend a non-ECNL club? Why the outrage? After all, if you want your daughter to play against ECNL players, there is a pretty obvious solution, play for an ECNL team. It will be the same when the GDA comes along. Certain clubs will join the GDA, most will not be part of it. And again, individual players will have the choice of trying out or not. No player will be excluded, but many clubs will be. Will you still be outraged? Why not?
Then why did yous ay it again. 2:17?What is your opinion?I think it is based on particulars myself. There are a few non ECNLs that are very worthy. ECNL-like, if you will. Playimng more on that type team might be better. On a much lesser team, maybe not. Nobody likes struggling as a team.
How about under the DA the 2nd level is open to all teams.And the most exposure goes back to top tournaments like Jeff Cup, Bethesda, Disney, CASL,etc along with USYSA Regionals and Nationals as far as exposure to the college coaches.And the admission process and flighting at those major tournaments and the ability to qualify to play at Regionals or Nationals would be based solely on the quality and track record of each individual team not the letters on the front of your shirt.Now some may say that ECNL has the best teams, but while certainly some of the best teams are in ECNL in each age group, it is also clear that the teams below the top teams in each of our 2 ECNL Leagues in Region 1 are inferior to the top Non-ECNL Teams in Region 1.Does anyone doubt that for instance South Shore of Mass is not better than the majority of ECNL Teams? Or that they have players who are superior to the players at the ECNL teams in the bottom half of the 2 ECNL Leagues in Region 1. This would be a benefit to all of our players and parents and only a dteriment to the $$$ made by the ECNL clubs. You would also see all the top teams below the DA go back to max 18 player rosters as players would gravitate to teams where they would regularly play good minutes and always dress out.
Some non encl. teams fared very well against PDA during the PDA tournament.. Even if you discount that some storm players were not there, its hard to argue that this storm team did not have a tough time against a decent long island NPL , losing 2-0.If being at practice with the best without playing that often is supposed to be better then getting more minutes with an NPL team, then surely this storm team should have handled this team rather easily.Maybe just maybe the marketing is just better ?Soccer Nut
"The first time my kid got left off the roster, she didn't get out of bed for the entire weekend. It is brutal and unhealthy".Amazing a parent who wrote this still has his daughter on this team.If your child is getting demoralized to that degree by her participation in youth sports don't you think she should move? If it is as you say a brutal and unhealthy situation then don't you as a parent have a responsibility to step in?They are only 13 or 14 and not always able to make the best decision for themselves at that age. The definition of child abuse and her own parent as enabler.
FC Delco tournament flights have been updated
Alternatively, 3:01, the GDA teams will have their own second teams, who will play in their own leagues, own showcases, etc.Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
3:35 - Right!! It's funny that people think the big bad unfair ECNL will be replaced by the perfect GDA, where players are sought out at their local rec teams to make it big on the national stage. It's the same thing with a different name (and mission - nod to soccer nut).Also, just a question. How does the previous poster justify the statement that ECNL is a money grab, but then say that they exclude deserving clubs. If it's just about money, wouldn't they want all the clubs that they could get? More players = more kids at events = more revenue right?i'm not saying ecnl is perfect. nothing is. but the hate is really overblown.
Don't hate the ECNL. I just call a a spade a spade. It a luxury youth st is not designed to be the home of all the great soccer playing girls. It is for the ones that are in a position to buy it if they have the talent and the means.
Meant a luxury youth sports league with luxury youth sports teams.
3:45 because it's about a small number of clubs divvying up the money.If it was all about the best teams than many more clubs would have 1 or 2 teams at that elite level and ECNL wouldn't control the showcase events and the money they generate.Also there would be no more bloated roster of 19-25, don't discount how much of a cash cow that has been for the ECNL clubs.Who would sign up for that if they could get on a team that plays in the same showcases and gets the same exposure and they are now playing and dressing every game on a roster of 18 or even less?You are being disingenuous my ECNL friend.
But why is better for Richmond Soccer Club (which controls Jeff Cup) or Disney (which controls Disney) to control the showcases rather than a conglomerate of the 70+ ECNL clubs?Did ECNL invent bloated rosters? Didn't Spirit and FC Delco back in the day (pre-2009) roster more than 18? I personally would leave a club where my kid did not dress every game and did not play half the game. But many parents don't feel that way. Are we to blame ECNL for separating them from their money?I have no data that says that practicing 3X/week against ECNL competition, but then sitting the bench, is better for development than practicing 3X/week with a non-ECNL team, and then playing 75% of every game. Sitting the bench so much is not for me, so I would choose the latter, but I'm also not so hung up whether my kid reaches 100% of her soccer potential or not. I'd sacrifice some development for more minutes, personally.
FC Pennsylvania Strikers current historical roster sizes99/00 - 20 players93/94 - 2388/99 - 1686/87 - 19This a free club, so at least one club exists where the bigger roster size (>18) is not a money grab.It's an easy argument to make that ECNL players 18-22 are only rostered to make more money for the club, but clearly there may be more to it than money.
Travel baseball "Consider the cost, which can range from as little as $500 to as much as $6,000 per year, not including travel expenses for motels, food, gas and tolls. Weigh that total cost versus the value of the experience and training. The more participation costs the more you should expect the program to deliver. The number one reason so many independent teams fold is that they don’t represent good value. Families are quick (maybe too quick) to vote with their feet these days. Ask whether it might make more sense (and cost fewer cents) for your child to continue playing in a “house” or local program but supplement his training with private instruction."Same story different sport - nothing is for free should it be? Soccer doesn't have the same structure as baseball or does it make the same amount of money - so how do you want these clubs to pay their employees for their time? They have families also so they should train our kids for free?If you can pay your kid can enjoy playing at a high level just like if you can pay you go to Atlantis or you go to Rockaway.GS 4 life
Sorry that's Beach 116th Street for those of you not form NY.GS 4 Life
The anti-ECNL crowd wants access to playing against the best ECNL players and teams, without footing the cost of paying ECNL money (although many non-ECNL clubs are just as expensive as ECNL). ECNL players also want to play against ECNL quality players, so they...wait for it...actually join the ECNL. The anti-ECNL passion comes from always hearing that ECNL is the top league with the best players and best college exposure, and yet their child is not a part of it. It gets under their skin.But no one will be honest and say this. So instead we get a load of "I'm so worried about players 18-22 on the ECNL rosters. I'm so worried about them, and how it affects overall soccer development in this great nation of ours."BS. What you want is for your kid to play against the top of the pyramid. And your hope is that the DA will come along and prune off the top 5%, and leave a nice broad, non-club based second level for the next 20% where your kid will likely land.Which is fine. I'm ok with that outcome. But it might be nice to mention your self interest instead of wrapping yourself in the altruistic cloak of concern for development of players 18-22.
The players that can do it are very fortunate and I assume are having a great experience or they would not participate. If affordable options are arrogantly maligned as being for inferior players, there will be push back as there should be.
@3:59 why do you think the DA will be any different than the current ECNL model of a finite number of clubs controlling the elite players? The GDA will be exactly the same as the ECNl with a slightly different governance. Actually has larger potential rosters and more limited subs. Players 12-15 will struggle to get time. Even better for players 6-11 than exist now as far as exposure and play time but alot worse for players 12-18. yes there is a guaranteed something like 25% start, but they pull alot of the lower roster level kids "starting"a game really early. Talk about demoralizing. Many kids travel and don't play. Yes at this age there is dilution of talent and it is not uncommon for a non ECNL teams to be better than ECNL teams. However the talent will largely consolidate- Just the way it happens. Possibly a few kids get left out due to finiacnial limitations, but they don't have to travel to flight level places and many actually do not. I don't buy the fussing. If you want your kid to play, and she is good enough, top 5, she won't pay. If she isnt a top 5 the local team will serve her purposes and the USSF wont be interested in her anyway. If the travel is too much for your family she will showcase at drivable level places. Oh and Florida is drivable for most of region 1.
The cost is just not that different, 7:54.Honest question. Has anyone tried out for ECNL, received and offer, and then changed their mind after seeing the cost? Has anyone been on an ECNL team, and after one year changed teams due to cost?I'm not saying it never happens, I just honestly don't know of anyone who's ever done either of these.
I meant, 7:57, not 7:54.
Tis the season of complete Bull***t! Gotta love it and feel for the parents that buy into the crap they are spoon fed before paying...I mean "accepting." No one knows where their kid will rank on next years rosters yet despite what some annoying egotistical parents may think. If your kid plays ECNL they better truly be damn good or they'll sit-end of story. The exception to that is politics and oh hell is there plenty of it! Make sure you're being realistic. If not you'll be a very unhappy parent and so will your kid while they sit the bench feeling embarrassed and getting no development. All for only 10 grand!
My kid may be smart enough for Ivy League, but I may only be able to afford state school for her.I would never begrudge Ivy League's right to exist and charge whatever they want for access to their product. Or imply that those who choose Ivy league are wasting their money.The teachers may be just as capable at the state school, and the subject matter is largely the same, but attendance in the Ivy League will give better access to a connected alumni network, and the name of the Ivy League school will be a draw for employers.In the end, I'd make an economic decision to not send my kid to the Ivy League school. But I'd never bitch about how the Ivy League is exclusionary and over hyped and costs too much and is great for the top students but the bottom students would be better off at a lesser school where they could stand out. Or that folks who can afford the Ivy League are arrogant.
8:00PM you need to reread my posts.I said that everyone BELOW the DA should all be in a level playing field with each teams track record and not club affiliation determining who gets into the best showcases and how they are flighted. The DA will do their thing but there is no reason for still having ECNl below them when ECNL is not open competition for all teams and its events are exclusionary.How does that and the larger rosters of ECNL teams make sense for level 2 when open competition will eliminate all that. My point is open things up and everything below the DA will be open to all teams who can earn entry to those events anAlso elimination of ECNL will restore USYSA State Cup winners, and Regionals and Nationals as another great avenue for exposure for those teams who can earn their way there.Same thing would be true for identification. Remove US Soccer Center and all the other Id outfits that are all watered down with a lot of mediocre talent and get back to ODP with 1 avenue where all the best players try out and only the best make it to Regional and National Teams.
boca on to semi finals in edp open cup. 1-0 versus Barons.
8:20 I disagree strongly.... You have just described what is wrong with both ECNL and our educational and economic system. It is not acceptable for highly skilled players or highly intelligent students to be denied success based on the amount of money they have. Could be why we lag behind most first world countries in both soccer and education. Your post is the very definition of elitist.
Delco flights are a joke. GS is a joke as well.
We lag in soccer because our best athletes do not play soccer. As they are measured, the US probably does lag behind many countries. But the fact is we are the most innovative country in the history of the world. I can teach a monkey calculus, but innovation takes more than that.
The ECNL is bush league compared to the status seeking that goes on at an Ivy league school (or better yet, an Ivy league reunion). Not bitching about the arrogance is fine but it won't make it disappear. These people are better than you - you need the right credentials to make eye contact.You will also find some amazing people of extremely fine character.
8:11Yea? I'm sure plenty have. Silly question. Many parents just don't know what they are getting into.
PrincetonFull-ride (including tuition plus room & board) for families making $54,000 a year or less. Free tuition for families making less than $120,000 a year.StanfordFull-ride (free tuition, room & board) for families making less than $65,000. Free tuition for families making less than $125,000.DartmouthFree tuition for families making less than $100,000.So Yes, a family making less than 125k or 100k a year can get a full ride at some top schools.Player A, B, & C - identical skill size when it comes to soccer and all three are 3.98 studentsPlayer A - parents can afford ECNL andany schoolin the country.Player B - parents can afford ECNL but make to much money to go to princeton for free sothey have to go to a state school.Player C - can't afford ECNL but can get a free ride to princeton based on family income.Player B parents are the same ones that get killed with this scholarship programs payand pay more so player C can play. Player A has not a worry in the world.let me go back to one of my previous postsSoccer was not going to get my kid into her school of choice her grades will then she will walk on and make the soccer team no strings. But in order to do that she has to mentally tough. GS 4 Life
It is no joke out there. These students should use their valuable time and energy wisely in college as they look to the future. Have a great player but the reality is, IMHO, her time will be better spent pursuing other opportunities in college than more soccer. I know many feel it is important and my player may ultimately decide it is important as well. We will see.
I believe many of these ECNL programs subsidize families who can't afford the tuition. They do not turn down the truly talented.
Yes, 9:52within reason
And it's not from the players 18-24. They hold fund raisers for that exact purpose.
Well I am glad you are so sure, 2:54. Considering I know no one who has done this, or even he's d of anyone who has done this, I am not sure at all.
You would have to out of your mind to turn down an ECNL spot. It is so incredibly amazing and worth every penny. Impossible that there could be a better choice for your player.
So often it is logistics, 11:03Longer drive can be tough on families, more so than the $$.
Longer drive can definitely be a reason along with you have to be nuts to just shrug off paying $10,000. That's not chump change to most people.
I was gently mocking the thought that no one turns down the ECNL. I guess it did not come through on line. There are several reasons a family might decide it is not the best choice n the end. Time,$$$$, distance, travel. You try out for some teams, evaluate your choices and make the best one. Best option might be the ECNL or a different team. Depends.
When will we know what clubs got the DA? Anyone have a timeline on that?
Ecnl parent here. In a nutshell, for your kid to play here you have to have thick skin, money to spend and a lot of it, and a ton of time to devote. Oh and connections help. A lot.
What kind of connections???
Another academy player signs in Europe with Schalke. I believe that's 4 now who have rights owned by major clubs - Borrusia, Arsenal, Chelsea & Schalke. Keep saying the boy's DA is a failure.
Thank you, 12:21. That's the most honest assessment I've seen on here. Folks have tons of legitimate reasons why ECNL is not for them. And if they had the choice, they'd prefer that ECNL did not exist so that their child could play against the ECNL players, instead of those players being walled off in the ECNL. And if they did say that, the ECNL folks would likely say "I hear you, and I'm sorry about that. But at this time ECNL is where my kid will most consistently face the toughest competition as well as having the best visibility with college coaches."But the non-ECNL folks never say that. Instead, their pride f---s with them and they end up attacking the ECNL instead. But the arrival of the GDA will not change this appreciably unless the GDA accepts a lot less players than the ECNL did. More players equals more money so I don't see this happening.
The gda will sell their wares like all the others. If they have enough satisfied customers they should be able to make a go of it. Certainly seems to be no shortage of customers for high level girl's soccer.
BDA Clubs U15/U16NORTHEAST DIVISION & ATLANTIC DIVISIONby (Girls League)of all the clubs that have a girls team 10 belong to a club league and 3 are individual. Which do you believe the GDA will go with? Ig your club is not ECNL or NPL good luck unless you are the PA Strikers who will get an invite 100%(ECNL) Albertson SC (Great Neck, N.Y.)(ECNL) Bethesda-Olney (Bethesda, Md.)(ECNL) Continental FC DELCO (West Chester, Pa.)(ECNL) Players Development Academy (Somerset, N.J.)(ECNL) Richmond United (Richmond, Va.)(NPL) Everton FC Westchester (Scarsdale, N.Y.)(NPL) Oakwood Soccer Club (Glastonbury, Conn.)(NPL) FC Boston Bolts (Waban, Mass.)(NPL) Seacoast United (Hampton, N.H.)(NPL) NJCSA (Aberdeen, N.J.)(RCL) Empire United (Rochester, N.Y.)(EDP) Beachside SC (Norwalk, Conn.)(PAGS) PA Classics (Manheim, Pa.)(n/a) BW Gottschee Academy (Queens, N.Y.)(n/a) New England Revolution (Foxborough, Mass.)(n/a) Montreal Impact FC (Montreal, Quebec)(n/a) Baltimore Armour (Ellicott City, Md.)(n/a) Philadelphia Union (Wayne, Pa.)(n/a) D.C. United (Washington, D.C.)(n/a) New York Red Bulls (Harrison, N.J.)
Just wondering did PDA play today and how did they make out?
@ 6:48 PMI'm not trying to be rude but why do you care if they played today or not?
I always hated people who answer a question with another question.
NJ Wildcats Averbuch loses to NJ Rush Blue 4-2
PDA played Bucks, so I assume they won easy.
Any PA State Cup games today? Still can't believe the Wild Bunch lost to the Rush. Wildcats must have been missing some key players today.
You mean Rec Cup?
No we we weren't missing players. We take our losses and move on. NJ Rush was better.
11:37 talking some truth. NJ Rush is and always will be a great team. I am sure home field for Rush helped today. Something is wrong because looks like Wild Bunch have given up about 15 goals this season in their last 5 games. Maybe they are trying something different with defense or moving players around. Everything changes in about 3 months anyway with birth years. We will see where all of these teams fall out when we meet in November in showcases. I am positive many of these teams will be different. Many teams still do not know what they are going to do. This spring is sort of tune up for November when you think about it and the showcase season. And most teams will have 5-10 new players.
NJ Rush Blue is a big strong team that is tough to play. It looks like they gave Ajax all they could handle this week in SC (0-1)and have some nice wins at U14. They play out of different locations, what do you mean home field advantage?
Daughter not still on that team.
If they would combine the NJ State Cup with the PA State Cup and make it all one event, then it would a true REC CUP.
Good morning NJ a..holes
8:13, why do you hate people who answer a question with a question?
Rush merging with SJEB should make for some impressive teams next year, both '01s and '02s. Look at the teams from each club that will be combining, Current u13s to u15s all contributing talent.
Wildcats struggling without injured keeper. Giving up some soft goals. That has affected confidence of defense lately. Still have to play the games and find a way to overcome key injuries.Good lessons for the players to learn from this. Everyone has to step up and do more.Rush played very tough and physical game and they wanted it more today.Hats off to them.
Agreed. Rush played extremely hard today. Congrats to them..
RUSH and SJEB combining forces should at the very least make them a legitimate F3 team in most tournaments (maybe even an F2). Probably an F1 in a roller derby contest.
Your sarcasm is thick. Your ignorance even thicker.
NJ Rush Blue defeats PDA Shore Fusion at PDA field1-0
5:14 Big accomplishment?
STA out of state cup with loss to Jersey Shore BOCA today
5:10 What is the highest bracket the Rush have played in and won? And I'm not talking the NJ Recreational Cup Championship. A tournament where their not playing the Cherry Hill Chalupa's or the Mt. Holly High Fivers.
NYCSL NPL 2015-2016 Season StandingsScores Not PostedNew York SC NPL-01NJ Crush NPL-01Manhattan NPL-01Princeton NPL-01Quickstrike NPL-01Match Fit NPL-01PTS (To Be Played)24 (5) Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-0123 (4) Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-0122 (3) Intense Soccer Academy NPL-0117 (5) Quickstrike FC NPL-0116 (6) New York Soccer Club NPL-01ELMINATED- Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01-----------------------------------------33 (5) NJ Crush FC NPL-0123 (5) STA NPL-01ELMINATED - Match Fit Academy NPL-01ELMINATED - New York Rush NPL-01ELMINATED - Princeton SA NPL-01ELMINATED - NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01
Eastern Development Program - NPL DivisionScores Not Reported#7799 NJCSA ELITETSF ACADEMY 01/02GNorth0 (0) +0 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL0 (0) +0 JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL 0 (0) +0 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 0 (1) -1 NJCSA ELITE0 (1) -2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL---------------------------------------------South3 (1) +2 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS3 (1) +2 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE3 (2) -1 SJEB '01G NPL0 (0) +0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA
In case of boca they are just getting better and better stronger and stronger. Paid coach is winning important cup games. Edp open and state cup. The girls have been together for years. They are hard to score on this season looking back to Jeff cup. NJCSA and now STA npl have lost in important single elimination. Averbuch is missing keeper and trying to figure it out. And they will. Wonder how they did today. I think shaping up for boca versus Averbuch in state cup if I am not mistaken once Averbuch gets through their next round if they do. I believe boca will play well against Averbuch and field player as keeper. Averbuch gave up 8 goals in last two games. Hard to blame on keepers but you never know with super keepers out there here and there. Averbuch played Ramapo today.
NPL Northeast Girls League 2015-16Scores Not ReportedFSA FC 01 NPLAlbertson SC 01 NPLPDA North 01 NPLFC Bucks 01 NPLFSA FC 01 NPLEast Meadow SC 01 NPLPDA North 01 NPLPenn Fusion SA 01 NPL------------------------------PTS (games to be played)47 (5) PDA South 01 NPL (NJ)36 (5) Match Fit Academy 01 NPL (NJ)29 (4) World Class FC 01 NPL (NY)29 (6) PDA North 01 NPL (NJ) 24 (7) Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL (PA)23 (7) FC Boston Scorpions 01 NPL (MA)24 (6) East Meadow SC 01 NPL (NY)22 (5) Continental FC 01 NPL (PA) 17 (8) FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL (MA) 15 (8) FSA FC 01 NPL (CT) 13 (7) Connecticut FC 01 NPL (CT)7 (8) FC Bucks 01 NPL (PA)ELIMINATED - Albertson SC 01 NPL (NY)
NEW ENGLAND GIRLS NPL Spring 2016Scores Not ReportedYANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUESYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14GNEFC ELITE U14 GIRLSSEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02------------------------------PTS (GP)0 (0) NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS 6 (2) OAKWOOD SC 6 (2) SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02 6 (2) GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 3 (2) FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NORTH U14 ELITE/NPL 3 (2) BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/020 (1) YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE 0 (2) SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G 0 (3) AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL
2016 REGION I CHAMPIONS LEAGUEScores Not ReportedHMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER------------------------------*** = ClinchedPTS (games left)Red*** BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE15 (1) 1776 UNITED FC XTREME 7 (3) CENTURY V 0102 GOLD ELIMINATED - HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDERELIMINATED - LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED ELIMINATED - PWSI COURAGE 01G RED ELIMINATED - RHINOS ELITE SC 01/02 ELIMINATED - HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT Blue12 (1) PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F149 (4) SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE 9 (2) BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE7 (3) EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU14 (01/02 )6 (3) FC FREDERICK '01 6 (3) GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECT ELIMINATED - YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES ELIMINATED - UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK
Champions to join NJCSA Elite (NJ) in West Virginia---------------------------------------ENYYSA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP CUP 2016FINALSTATEN ISLAND UNITED HOTSHOTSWEST ISLIP WILDCATS--------------------------------------EPYSA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP CUP 2016Quarter Finals2 Penn Legacy '01 Black0 LDC United AttackPA Classics Academy 01Penn United 010 Ready '01 1 Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Black0 LVU 01 Elite2 1776 01 Xtreme
Champions go to Denver------------------------NY CupNew York SC New York SC G01 Quickstrike QSFC Elite 02'sManhattan G'01 Pride HBC SparksSABA Brooklyn City FC Westchester FCWE 02 WhiteNew Hyde Park Lady Jaguars Atletico Girls '01.-------------------------NJ CupJersey Shore Boca Jr. FusionFC Berna Legacy 01NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPLTSF Academy 01/02 or SDFC SambaSJEB 01PDA AjaxNJCSA Elite-ManalapanNJ Wildcats Galaxy--------------------------PA Cupno U14 Flight
5:52 you sound a little bitter, Did Rush beat your little daughter's team ? Rush is playing in tournaments when they are able. Some reconfiguring within last year. Always some injuries. They played today against PDA with no subs, they had one sub until one got injured. The whole second half ,while PDA Shore had at least 6 subs sitting bench. 2 girls out injured. The remaining girls played their butts off to compensate. And yes I was there. Possibly a parent, who knows ? LOL
Keeper should be back for semifinals and finals weekend but you never know.Still have to get past quarterfinal round with field player in goal. No sure thing.
Elite Clubs National League 2015-2016 Regular SeasonU14 Northeast ConferenceScores not reported:PDA ECNL U14Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U14Continental FC Delco ECNL U14FSA FC ECNL U14East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14FSA FC ECNL U14Albertson Fury ECNL U14PTS (games left)Metro Division33 (6) Match Fit Academy ECNL U1427 (7) PDA ECNL U1427 (6) Penn Fusion SA ECNL U1417 (7) World Class FC ECNL U14ELIMINATED - FC Bucks ECNL U14ELIMINATED - Continental FC Delco ECNL U14----------------------------------------New England Division31 (9) East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U1427 (8) FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U1423 (8) FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U1421 (9) Albertson Fury ECNL U1417 (10) FSA FC ECNL U1412 (9) Connecticut FC ECNL U14
7:02 Daughter's team has never lost to Rush, but have lost to the Wildcat's before. Sorry if I hurt your feelings being sarcastic. Must have been the coffee.
So was the entire thread from yesterday erased???
That is strange. Their was a lot of stuff about boca, pda shore, wild cats, perhaps admin did not like that? I think? Admin can certainly play dictatorship and post and un post anything they want. It is their blog. lol go Copa!
Very strange. I've never seen several days worth of posts deleted. Usually they do a pretty good job of only deleting specific posts.
Maybe the 1776 Mom heard about it, and came down to the hosting service, and set them on fire?
U12 and U13 boards were also censored.Thanks Obama!
no doubt the NJ/NY posts caused this...
This is what happens when you go doubting the validity of the Delco flights and what a really good team YMS has been.
2:52- you made me lol
Hard drive failure and they had to restore from a previous day? Probably more likely that then they selectively deleted stuff.
DELCO flights suck. They have no idea what is going on. What a joke!
NYCSL NPL 2015-2016 Season StandingsEAST26 (3) Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-0124 (5) Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01--------------------------------22 (3) Intense Soccer Academy NPL-0120 (4) Quickstrike FC NPL-0117 (5) New York Soccer Club NPL-01ELIMINATED - Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01WEST34 (4) NJ Crush FC NPL-0123 (5) STA NPL-01--------------------------------ELIMINATED - Match Fit Academy NPL-01ELIMINATED - New York Rush NPL-01ELIMINATED - Princeton SA NPL-01ELIMINATED - NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01
2016 REGION I CHAMPIONS LEAGUEGirls U14 Elite RedCLINCHED - BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE 15 (1) 1776 UNITED FC XTREME---------------------------------------------7 (3) CENTURY V 0102 GOLDELIMINATED - HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDERELIMINATED - LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED ELIMINATED - PWSI COURAGE 01G REDELIMINATED - HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT ELIMINATED - RHINOS ELITE SC 01/02 Girls U14 Elite Blue12 (1) PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 9 (4) SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE--------------------------------9 (2) BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE7 (3) EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU146 (3) FC FREDERICK '016 (3) GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 01 SELECT ELIMINATED - YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEESELIMINATED - UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK
3:58 what would you like to see in addition to your team in a higher bracket?
Hey the CRUSH truck is back. They are winning their tough division and in the highest bracket of the almighty DELCO. Why is anyone even bothering with this tournament, the teams are all breaking up and it's a beach weekend.
Does anyone have a idea or know what clubs will get DA status ... Nj teams .
Nobody knows yet. If I had to guess for NJ I would say PDA and Cedar Stars
Hey 1:26, I hope you drop dead you douche, and I am not even with Crush.
NJ Wildcats open tryouts for their new 2002 NPL Team begin tonight and continue for the next month. Tryouts are Tuesdays and Thursdays from 5:45pm-7:45pm at Manahasset Creek Park in Long Branch.This is our Clubs home facility for all training sessions and home games and has 3 full sized field turf fields and 1 small sided field turf field in a waterfront location at the Shore. The current Wildcats Averbuch U14 team has 5 2001's who will be moving on to play with our new 2001 NPL team so there are multiple spots open for next years 2002 NPL Team.The 2002 NPL team will play the major college showcases plus all NPL only showcase events as well as NPL Flight 1 and EDP Flight 1 for league play next year.
When you say cedar star are you talking about NJCSA ... So will the DA program be free like on the boy side ... What will the roster size be for the DA girls program .
Hey 318 , sure you are not with crush. You have lived on this blog for years and post every win they have, including keeping us up to date on your shit league. I knew you would respond like that and all I said was that your are winning a tough division, did I hit a nerve?
I thought it was GS 4 life that does the league updates
9:52 you are correct I do post ECNL, NYCSL NPL, EDPNPL, NorthEast MPL, New England NPL, CCL, VA NPL, RCL and National league plus you name the tournament.But it sounds like these guys know each other or think they do.
Can anyone tell me what the years cost is for Continental FC? I know Penn Fusion is $3500. Also will team likely train at PG or USTC?
If you switching clubs now, I'd go where DA will be next year...
8:57Boys' DA is usually only "free" when the club has partnership with pro club that sponsors everything...
CFC and PAC have the best chances for PA.
PF will get it.Building two new turf fields, already have a good number of kids at national training, a few players at national camps, and quality coaching.No reason for them not to get it.
**Renting 2 new turf fields and they may not even apply for the DA from what I heard due to the high school soccer conflict.
True. They themselves put that out there at a public meeting.
Continental costs the same as PF. About 3100 or so. The ECNL and NPL teams train at proving grounds
Cuz high school soccer is so important for college prep...haha!!They know they won't get DA...
Again those are not the true cost of those clubs maybe tuition but add in the travel cost you can easily spend over 6 grand a year just to be an ECNL player.
Anyone interested in ECNL...pick a team, go on their website, see schedule, add up travel expenses to games/location/hotel then add the "big" ECNL tournaments.9:47 is correct, tuition is probably only 1/3 of total costs
PF is applying. The metrics for selection are strongly in their favor especially the national camp kids. That is a very important discriminator in the process. PF is putting out the kinds of kids that the national coaches find attractive. That is the purpose of the DA and they are the PA team currently providing that to them. I agree PAC is a shoo in because of Christian Pulisic's huge success. Great timing for them. Having a boy's program especially with an ignored and weak girl's program does not inspire confidence.For the record most facilities are under long term lease by clubs including the PAC fields. They lease the land and then either have the leasor build in the costs of building the fields or contract themselves to build the fields. Comparison CFC to PF at all ages ( I can't remember all years NT so might be underestimating a few older camp attendees):age CFC PF standings NT players standings NT players14 6/6 0 3/6 115 6/6 0 2/6 216 6/6 0 2/6 017 4/6 1 3/6 418 4/6 1 5/6 2I think also that the PF teams have been hit by their top players frequently being away at National camp. Mixed blessing there.
good post 10:00Actual facts matter? :)
Yes but with the announcement of ECNL going with boys and adding a few clubs with NWSL league Girls DA is in for a battle and a those clubs like PF and PDA may not even bother with it. It's gonna be 1v1 battle for top league, and many will want to stay ECNL for the fact their daughters or sons are multi-athletes just like many of the current national players and will worry about success at the college ranks before moving on to National Status just like any other US sport. Yes I agree 947 ECNL is costly tuition is 1/3 of the cost just like 957 stated.
The USSF will not mandate that the clubs pull out of the ECNL in fact all DA clubs have many teams participating in US club programming. Even the "pre academy" off year teams are administered through US club soccer. It remains to be seen whether US club/ECNL decide that a team with DA cannot participate in the ECNL. Currently in the bylaws of the ECNL it says that the participating clubs must enter their top teams into the ECNL. That would present a conflict with clubs also fielding DA teams. Which is the "top" team in that case?
Figure $8-10K easily if you're interested in ECNLMy guess is PAC and CFC. PAC is an easy one. Another new turf field, top coaching including national coach TH, and a successful boys DA in place. Someone said on U13 blog there was 90-100 players at 2002 tryouts. They know.
Penn FusionWest Chester, PA 1938213 games in PA2 games in NJ2 games in NY2 games in CT2 games in MA3 games in CA4 games @ Bethesda Premier Cup Girls - 2015 3 games @ 2015 Spirit United Kickoff Classic - Girls Weekend 2 games @ West Chester 27th Annual Summer Classic 2015 aprrox addon $ for travel5 overnight stays (12 days @ $125 per day = $1,500)1 flight ($400 per person x 3 = $1,200)aprrox $2,700 add on to tuition to play PF with no ECNL Playoffs and Finals.-------------------------------------------1776Wallingford, PA9 games in PA2 games in VA1 game in Pittsburgh, PA3 games in MD1 game in NJ4 games @ Nether United Spring Invitational Powered by Adidas 4 games @ MAPS / MSSL 2015 Winter Classic [U14-U17 Boys & Girls] 3 games @ 2015 Spirit United Kickoff Classic - Girls Weekend 3 games @ 2016 Jefferson Cup Girls Weekend (U10-U14) 3 games @ Bethesda Premier Cup Girls - 2015 4 games @ Discovery Cup 2015 aprrox addon $ for travel7 overnight stays (10 days @ $125 per day = $1,250)0 flight ($400 per person x 3 = $0)44 - PF games played36 - 1776 games playedPF $1,500 for 8 games more and flight to CA for 3Sorry give me PF any day of the week
1217 Yes Heard the same thing PAC with that many girls trying out are front runners especially with TH involved.
12:40Not quite$160/night hotelsFoodRental carUniformsGas/tolls Only $2500 additional would be nice though!!!
1240 How are you only getting 5 Overnight Stays between CT, MA, CA also 1776 does PA State please show your true cost. As I'm hearing tuition $3,500 + approx. $2,500-$3,000 in travel fees. As next year 2 showcase events CA & FL trips are required during U15 years of ECNL. Also what is the point to go to CA as there is a less than 1% chance a girl attends a school out there.
12:58 only 40 at your kids clubs tryouts I assume?
Good point 1:05. I forgot about Florida. Yea you need $10 grand. No way around it.
12:40 You can't travel on games days so your hotel stay total is not accurate. Double that for the away league games.
$125/night? Maybe at a Holiday Inn?$150/$160 is what you'll pay per night.
Any word on how the FC Bucks tryouts? Any call backs or roster spots given already? Yes I'm curious as I took my dd there.
Don't forget the $30 parking fee to park your car at the fields in CA!!!! LOLLook long story short, its a lot of freaking money! I know because I'm a fool that pays it.
144 Thx for admitting the facts but like you said we are all fools that pay for it.
Not me :)
Is there ever a story of Rags to Riches in the Soccer world in the U.S. like the other major sports have. NO! Just my point.
If tryout numbers have anything to do with it then PF it is - they had over 100 at each tryout. Cfc and fcbucks had abysmal turnout.
Tryouts have not even happened yet for u15 and u16 at PF.
Um only Bucks had tryouts so far 241. Get on the right blog.
Was considering taking daughter to PA Classics second tryout. Was it really that many and have they already offered some spots for the team? Thanks to anyone who knows.
Yes that many
What age 254?
haven't you people beat the "ECNL is expensive" to death? we get it, who cares?
12:40 - you are way off. 12 overnight stays and team dinners the cost for PF is well over 10k PF is not staying at motel 6's , they are PF All that and your child may not even play every game because they are carrying 22 players. She may not play but will have to travel.
1:051 - NY (East Meadow & Albertson)2 - CT (CFC & FSA)3 - MA (BBB & Stars)4 - Bethesda Tournament5 - CA ECNL Event.1:03 so you are going to nickle and dime me for $35 a night - okay if it makes you feel better add on $350.Food? So what you don't eat if you don't travel. Rental Car for 3 days is what another $100? Uniforms - stop it everyone pays for uniforms. Gas/Tolls everybody pays for that. 1775 covers more mileage than PF if you take out the CA trip.1:08 to funny.Hotel stay is based on friday and saturday nights only. Again a lot depends on game times.1:43 another nickel and dime guy okay okay another $350 which is chump change when we are talking this much money.2:22 soccer might be the cheapest - apples to apples travel vs travel baseball is more expensive.3:43 12 overnight stays? Wow and like i said $35 bucks for a hotel room is not a big spread. I love the scare tactic withthe 10k - what's your take?
Let them rant, 4:58. Shrieking "$10K! $10K! $10K!" makes them feel better about their own decisions.After we're done judging folks about how much they spend on soccer, we're going to focus our attention on how much some folks spend on take out food.
Look everyone spends there $'s and makes decisions on there own. The real question is are some of the top players getting free rides or discounts to stay with a club. Let's see how many respond to that.
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