Thursday, January 23, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

Did FC Crush play their NPL game yesterday, does anyone know? There is no score posted against Rush Patriots, did they cancel because of state cup?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, 7-0, they just posted, close game?

Anonymous said...

PDA and MF going to have some growing pains this year as they try to identify the players they will keep going forward.

Both programs will have plenty of players to choose from and will experiment through the Spring.

Both programs strong and deep.
PDA Storm, Ajax and Dragons
MF Falcons and NJX.

Anonymous said...

6:40, so what is your professional opinion? Should every u13 female player not associated with these two clubs stop playing soccer? If so, what do you recommend as far as sports, LAX?

Anonymous said...

6:50 you are very sensitive...... Think the post was simply saying there is a fair amount of talent on those teams and will be interesting to see what they do with it. Nothing about other teams Mr/Mrs Defensive.....

Anonymous said...

Are the state cup semi and final on the same day? What kind of fields do they play on? Grass/Turf. I am assuming a neutral location in central jersey.

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Anonymous said...

I thought they tied,

Please - stop talking about players.

Anonymous said...

7:50

No

Grass

Neutral

Anonymous said...

7:52, really? I have no idea who you are talking about, but I feel like punching you in the throat, hard. Is that how you get your jollies? Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

MF parent here. Have to say PDA ajax should be embarrassed by their group of parents they have on the sideline. Over the top obnoxious. Not saying all of the parents because all the teams have some of those parents on the sidline. Just have to say it was enjoyable to see how quiet the loudmouths got after the third goal went in. Was it the third goal that did it or was it that your daughter got pulled.

Anonymous said...

NLP Standings only for leagues that have all scores reported this week. EDL still no update on clubs and my guess is their clubs don't even know or we would have had someone post an update.

NYCSL NPL
2.50 (4) 1: New York Soccer Club NPL-01
2.33 (3) 2: NJ Crush FC NPL-01
2.00 (3) 3: STA NPL-01
1.33 (3) 4: Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01
1.20 (5) 5: Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01
1.00 (4) 6: Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01
1.00 (4) 7: Quickstrike FC NPL-01
0.00 (4) 8: New York Rush NPL-01

New England NPL
3.00 (5) 1: NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
2.40 (5) 2: OAKWOOD SC
2.00 (6) 3: SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02
2.00 (5) 4: YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE
1.50 (6) 5: BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02
0.86 (7) 6: SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G
0.50 (6) 7: AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK
0.17 (6) 8: GPS-MA NPL

Virginia NPL
3.00 (5) 1: PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER U13G
2.60 (5) 2: VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB U13G
2.25 (4) 3: CHESAPEAKE UNITED SOCCER CLUB U13G
1.75 (4) 4: FC VIRGINIA U13G
1.50 (4) 5: RICHMOND KICKERS U13G
1.33 (3) 6: NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB U13G
0.80 (4) 7: RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB U13G
0.50 (4) 8: ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB U13G
0.25 (4) 9: CHURCHLAND SOCCER U13G
0.20 (5) 10: CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC U13G

3 NPL Leaders with GS State Rank (Nat Rank)
NY#6 (66) New York Soccer Club NPL-01
MA#3 (32) NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
VA#3 (77) PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER U13G

Anonymous said...

7:52- I don't know anything about the player but class and decency don't appear to be your strong point.

7:40- Agreed.

Anonymous said...

8:30, thank you!

Anonymous said...

I agree with earlier posts about major changes coming at MF. Right after your Bethesda tournament, they are coming and they are going to swift and great for the pre-ecnl team but very painful for the npl. Good luck, hope things fall into to place but highly unlikely

Anonymous said...

08:30 AM.. you are right on. Most obnoxious bunch ever. There are a few nice parents on that team who stand with the opposition parents so they aren't associated with them. All a bunch of parent/coaches.

Anonymous said...

Thought the one gentleman, lol looked familiar. Was he the old assistant for ajax at u9 or 10? He was obnoxious then as a coach and still is now on the parents side at u13

Anonymous said...

Were there any games played for the EDP Open Cup this past weekend?

Anonymous said...

Both these programs will be stronger in Spring.

Key will be coaching and who has the game changers.

Anonymous said...

I didn't mean actual coaches.. I mean they all coach from the sideline. I never understood paying 2500 to a club to have your daughter trained and coached by professionals and then screaming instructions to her during the game.

Anonymous said...

NJ NCS on 10/25/2014

NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)

TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)

Quarter Final GS winners should move these teams up.
MEDFORD STRIKERS SOUL (NJ)
THISTLE COMETS (NJ)
MANALAPAN DYNAMITE (NJ)
SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)

Champion advances to the 2015 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships | Barboursville, WV
Barboursville Soccer Complex June 25 - June 30

With a chance to advance to

2015 US Youth Soccer National Championships | Tulsa, Okla.
Mohawk Soccer Complex July 20 - July 25

All 4 are NPL teams and also have a chance to advance to
July 9-13, 2015 | Grand Park | Westfield, Ind.

Some nice overnight stays and 3 weeks of vacation if any team makes it to both National events.. Tell me again why it’s worth to play for both USYSA or US Club Soccer?

=====================

NJ State Cup on 10/25/2014

MILLSTONE UNITED TRAVEL SOCCER ROCKETS (NJ)
Quarter-Finals B Winner score not reported

MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ)
NEW JERSEY RUSH HIGHLAND 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)

Champion advances to 2015 Region I Presidents Cup
May 23-25, 2015
Slippery Rock, Pa.

With a chance to advance to
2015 National Presidents Cup
July 9-12, 2015
Overland Park, Kan.

Anonymous said...

I agree these teams MF and PDA have to start getting their teams ready for u14 ECNL starting in the Spring by calling up all potential ECNL players. for their JR ECNL event.
GREER, SC | MAY 9-10, 2015

PRE-ECNL U13 DIVISION

Atlanta Fire Pre-ECNL U13
Bethesda SC Pre-ECNL U13
Birmingham United Pre-ECNL U13
Carolina Elite Soccer Academy Pre-ECNL U13
Concord Fire Pre-ECNL U13
East Meadow Soccer Club Pre-ECNL U13
FC Virginia Pre-ECNL U13
GSA Pre-ECNL U13
Maryland United FC Pre-ECNL U13
MatchFit Pre-ECNL U13
Mclean Youth Soccer Pre-ECNL U13
Ohio Premier Pre-ECNL U13
PDA Pre-ECNL U13
Penn Fusion SA Pre-ECNL U13
Richmond United Pre-ECNL U13
West Florida Flames Pre-ECNL U13

Waitlist
Vardar Pre-ECNL U13

If these shake up include player movement with a far distance between the two.

Both Pre-ECNL teams will win in addition to MF North and PDA North - if any players get shifted to NPL teams with driving to South to much. Only time will tell.

This comes with the territory for any parent that wanted their kid playing for an ECNL program. Minutes are at a premium and the kids always need to be at their best - this will make some better while others don't do as well.

Anonymous said...

If anyone was at this PDA game yesterday, the PDA coaches (both coaches)yelling and screaming the whole time, referee went up to one of them during game (not sure why).

Anonymous said...

Now if that is not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.

Anonymous said...

9:09^^^^^^^

Anonymous said...

9:49>>>>>>>>>

Anonymous said...

9:17 and 9:26 it's probably the same Ajax parent who is always on blog claiming they should be considered one of top 3 teams in NJ.

Anonymous said...

9:44 which PDA game wasn't there two? If you are talking about Pre-ECNL or NPL - would you have rather they took the girls out of the game and limit their subbing the rest of the game?

Don't forget they can't take someone out of the game to talk to them and then put them back in the half subs are not unlimited.

Anonymous said...

Last spring Manalapan Dynamite parent/Nasty Disgruntled Troll was all over blog saying state cup was all that mattered and EDP league play was meaningless remember?
Now his Manalapan/NJCSA Elite team gets knocked out of state cup 3-0 yesterday and he comes home and goes right on blog at 8:35pm and 8:48pm saying state cup has watered down field, meaningless(he loves that word doesn't he?),GS shouldn't even award points, etc.
Wonder if he felt that way before they lost 3-0 to TSF yesterday?

Anonymous said...

In my experience, out of the four PDA/MF teams, the most yapping from parents comes from the PDA pre-ECNL team. Dads constantly shouting instructions to their kids: "Get wide! Get wide! Find the seam! Look for Katelyn!" (My apologies if there actually is a girl named Katelyn on that team. I just used that name for a made up example.) I can't speak for their kids, but personally, I cannot stand telling me what to do. Let alone someone shouting it at me. But hey, maybe their kid needs that to succeed.

Second worst was MF Pre-ECNL. Again, a couple dads getting as close the field as they can so they can chat to the players the whole time.

MF NPL are certainly not quiet parents. Lots of encouragement to their girls. But no coaching. Maybe they're more likely to get on a ref's back than the parents from the Pre-ECNL squads.

And contrary to the posts above, for PDA South I did not notice the parents at all. Which is a good thing. If it is only one parent that does the screaming, maybe they weren't there when I saw this team.

But the worst parents I've seen this fall are the ones from Continental FC Pre-ECNL. 18 coaches on the parent sideline constantly yelling. Unreal.

Best ones I've seen? East Meadow. No instructions to the players. Applauded both teams. Really nice group.

Anonymous said...

just curious, how do you know those posts are from the Manalapan coach?

Anonymous said...

Why is ok for PDA coaches to act likes idiots, then bash MF and WC coaches? I was embarrassed for my kids team this weekend. I sat on sidelines in disbelief. Mean while MF Coach was the total opposite, Stayed near bench.

Yes coaches have to yell and get there point across, I do think ours were a bit over board, plus why did not all our kids get in? MF played all players as ours sat! I am pissed.

Anonymous said...

That's a little transparent, 11:27. Nice try, though.

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Anonymous said...

Manalapan parent is the Nasty Disgruntled Troll, not the Manalapan/NJCSA coach.
The same Manalapan parent who knocks parents coaches, teams, results.
He has been repeating same refrains for over a year. Every win is "meaningless", ties don't count, edp just for "D" for Development wins meaningless. Blah , blah , blah,.

Anonymous said...

U13 Pre-ECNL
3.00 (1) Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
2.60 (5) PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
2.29 (7) East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
2.14 (7) Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.89 (9) Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.78 (9) Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.50 (6) FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.13 (8) Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.00 (4) World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
0.43 (7) FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
0.00 (9) Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
-.-- (0) FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Not Reported
FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
vs East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Anonymous said...

U13 Girls
3.00 (1) FSA FC 01 NPL
2.75 (8) PDA North 01 NPL
2.50 (8) Match Fit Academy 01 NPL
2.40 (5) PDA South 01 NPL
1.86 (7) Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
1.33 (6) Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL
1.00 (6) FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL
0.63 (8) FC Bucks 01 NPL
0.43 (7) Albertson SC 01 NPL
0.25 (8) Continental FC 01 NPL
0.25 (4) World Class FC 01 NPL
-.-- (0) Connecticut FC 01 NPL

Not Reported
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
vs Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL

Connecticut FC 01 NPL
vs Albertson SC 01 NPL

World Class FC 01 NPL
vs Match Fit Academy 01 NPL

Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL

World Class FC 01 NPL
vs Continental FC 01 NPL

Anonymous said...

EDP U13 1st Division North
2.25 (4) HBC SPARK
2.00 (3) TSF ACADEMY 01/02
1.50 (4) BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE
1.00 (4) SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT
3.00 (1) NJCSA ELITE
1.00 (3) SABA BROOKLYN CITY
0.33 (3) RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02

EDP U13 1st Division Central
2.40 (5) CES CALVERT CREW WHITE
3.00 (3) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
1.80 (5) PIPELINE SC BLACK
1.67 (6) NJSCA GALAXY
1.50 (4) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
1.25 (4) HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
1.20 (5) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS
0.25 (4) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH
0.00 (4) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK

Not Reported
NJCSA ELITE
SABA BROOKLYN CITY

TSF ACADEMY 01/02
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02

HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH

CES CALVERT CREW WHITE
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS

Anonymous said...

Several parents upset with play time and move up player.

Anonymous said...

My bad no sort, below with sort

EDP U13 1st Division North
3.00 (1) NJCSA ELITE
2.25 (4) HBC SPARK
2.00 (3) TSF ACADEMY 01/02
1.50 (4) BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE
1.00 (4) SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT
1.00 (3) SABA BROOKLYN CITY
0.33 (3) RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02

Anonymous said...

#2 can you give points earned so far and points still available for this weekends NJ State Cup?
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

11:48 Honestly they don't have the right to be upset. PDA is about ECNL teams and them winning. If your kid can help they will play if they hurt the team they will sit. Everybody knows this, so why all the tears. If your kid was on the "B" team you would want them to get the call wouldn't you, if they could help?

If playing time is so important request your kid be sent to the B teams - I'm sure North and South would take them. Oh but wait then your kid would be taking minutes from another, I guess that would be okay and those other parent's shouldn't be pissed because your kid is helping the team.

Come on this will happen at every ECNL Club.

Anonymous said...

@11:47
soccer standings not calculated by % "wrong sport"

Actual Standings
Pts.
NORTH 9 1 HBC SPARK
6 2 TSF ACADEMY 01/02
6 3 BEACHSIDE SC CT
4 4 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER
3 5 NJCSA ELITE
3 6 SABA BROOKLYN CITY
1 7 RAMAPO TORNADOS '02

CENTRAL
pts.
1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE 12
2 NJSCA GALAXY 10
3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 9
4 PIPELINE SC BLACK 9
5 STA MORRIS UNITED 6
6 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 6
7 HARFORD FC UNITED 5
8 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER 1
9 MATCH FIT BLACK 0




Baseball NUT


Anonymous said...

So let me get this straight? If all of these changes are coming about for say PDA and MF with their ecnl teams. Calling up the so called best kids to the ecnl teams to play for the all illusive national championships. What does that do for the so called b teams or Npl teams that on any given day can beat the ecnl teams. Those b or Npl teams might be going to the b team nationals without their better players? Doesnt seem fair or right, does it. Or are the so called game changers going to play for both teams. Do you think that information will be divulged prior to booking your vacations. I mean hotel reservations

Anonymous said...



Actual Standings
Pts.
NORTH
9 1 HBC SPARK
6 2 TSF ACADEMY 01/02
6 3 BEACHSIDE SC CT
4 4 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER
3 5 NJCSA ELITE
3 6 SABA BROOKLYN CITY
1 7 RAMAPO TORNADOS '02

CENTRAL
pts.
1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE 12
2 NJSCA GALAXY 10
3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 9
4 PIPELINE SC BLACK 9
5 STA MORRIS UNITED 6
6 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 6
7 HARFORD FC UNITED 5
8 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER 1
9 MATCH FIT BLACK 0

Anonymous said...

From what I hear, the playing time issue gets significantly worse once the girls hit U14.

I've heard some horror stories about players travelling to San Diego just to sit the bench all weekend.

The ECNL clubs will continue to recruit and recruit and recruit. It is still early, only U13, so I'd expect almost half the current starters to be bench players in two or three years. These are the players I feel bad for, as their minutes dwindle with the addition of each new recruit, but they are too good to get cut and play for the B team.

The current U13 bench players? They are the lucky ones because they'll end up starters on the B team.

I think this is where school soccer can fill a gap for many players. In middle school and high school they'll get lousy training but see significant game minutes. For their ECNL team they'll continue to get excellent training and face the highest level of competition at practice, they just won't play much in games.

Anonymous said...

The standings I posted were sorted by AVG pts per game played. The same formula I used for all other leagues. My sort was wrong though.

3.00 (3) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
2.40 (5) CES CALVERT CREW WHITE
1.80 (5) PIPELINE SC BLACK
1.67 (6) NJSCA GALAXY
1.50 (4) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
1.25 (4) HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
1.20 (5) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS
0.25 (4) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH
0.00 (4) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK

Anonymous said...

12:59 I don't think that will happen unless ECNL and NPL Finals are at the same time.

ECNL PLAYOFFS | Seattle, WA
ECNL National Finals U18 & U14 | June 25-30
ECNL North American Cup U15-U17
ECNL National Play-Offs U15-U17
ECNL North American Showcase U15-U17

ECNL FINALS | Richmond, VA | July 2015

NPL FINALS
July 9-13, 2015 | Grand Park | Westfield, Ind.

Anonymous said...

Please let us all know where you get excellent training. I know a large group of talented soccer players that need excellent training. They are currently paying thousands for training worse than school ball.

Anonymous said...

Does PDA Storm have tryouts or do they just take from their other teams? So basically you try out for ajax, dragons, or another lower team to be seen? If they don't they should have open tryouts like every other team and let new girls compete for those spots. Obviously they are looking for different players, since they are taking from b team Ajax to help out. They probably could find more talented players in NJ if they want to become the best in NJ.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to the National Championship Series (aka State Cup) Semi-Finalists. Good luck next week girls.

Anonymous said...

PDA teaches the same style or system to all of their teams. Therefore they can switch players around. If they North or South team loses a player to ECNL they play the next player.

MF a little different since they acquire teams at around U11 or U12. Some teams might be big and physical others fast and technical. I think they could struggle when they try to merge players from 2 teams with different style.

Both programs will have very talented players. You have to give the nod to the program with better coaching.

Anonymous said...

Who is the coach of Storm?

Anonymous said...

Same coach as last year at U12.
Bait and switch was pulled when team was struggling at the end of spring season before tryouts to keep some from bolting.

Anonymous said...

Just using GS as an event tool. How exactly have they struggled. I know GS stinks but they are #2 in the Country. With the same coach.
The placed in 6 out of 8 events. Not bad.

Games 32
W-D-L 20-5-7
Goals For 79
Goals Against 21
Win % 62.5%

Finalist -----EDP Cup 2014 Fall [U12-U14]
Semi-Finalist Eclipse Select Challenge Cup
Finalist ----- USYS Region I Championships
------- ---- PDA Spring Kickoff 2014
Finalist -----New Jersey Cup 2014
1st ---------EDP LEAGUE SPRING 2014
Champion --- Nj State Cup u11-u14
------- ---- Eclipse Select Challenge Cup

Anonymous said...

It appears No Justification is needed at all.

My advice is for PDA parents to just ignore the jealous.

So the blog can move along.

Anonymous said...

Best Guess at NJ CUP NCS flight value = approx 8,000

Champion 8000 less 20%
Runner Up 4000 less 20%
Semi-Finals 2000 less 20%
Quarter Finals 1000 less 20%

Below is what I used for the projections
30 (1%) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (20% = 3,335)
38 (1%) STA NPL 01 (20% = 3,098)
75 (2%) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (20% = 1,997)
78 (2%) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (20% = 1,950)
113 (3%) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH

Anonymous said...

Big points (#2 in nation) for Jersey teams beating up Jersey teams

That has been established

Anonymous said...

vs non NJ teams @ u 13 - I think they do okay as well - Why are you going to tell me the below stinks? Come on 1st you say they struggle - results history said no way - then you say they beat up NJ teams only- well it looks like they do okay outside of Nj as well.

I think we can move on. PS I don't think they'll miss any of the kids that sit or don't dress if they decide to walk. No one that plays or is part of the rotation will leave a team this solid.

W 8
L 2
T 1
F 34
A 9

CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) 2-3
ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE) 2-1
FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT) 2-2
CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) 0-2
STRIKE FC U13G PREMIER 1 (WI) 8-0
LAKE FOREST SA GU13 SELECT (IL) 2-0
OHIO PREMIER OP ECNL (OS) 2-0

2-0 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
6-1 FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1-0 Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
7-0 Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-

Anonymous said...

The loser of the Nj Wildcats vs STA game will get
0 GS points. The winner will need to win the Championship or settle for less than 1k GS points.

The winner of the Nj Crush / TSF will be in a GREAT position to rack up some serious GS points with a win combined with some FALL League Points from EDP and NYCSL NPL.

Anonymous said...

So two games versus not much talent and you are in the finals and getting points? Come on, you have to admit that is not much of a state cup. Regular state cup is like 8 games, right?? Why so few teams? I understand the top ones but what about all the others?

Anonymous said...

Stale Cup is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Look at the State Cup as a decent but not great tournament. Don't begrudge teams that are in it and will receive points. They deserve whatever points are available.

Anonymous said...

@ 4pm.

R you really criticizing the #1 club in the country.

With this clubs proven history and body of work.

Why even go there.

Anonymous said...

You are missing the point. Not the teams fault it is the system. It would be like two teams setting up a regular game and calling it a final to get points. Just bizarre that no teams are even in it..... Again, where are they all?

Anonymous said...

There are 4 top 10 teams in the tournament, the #3,,4, 8 and 9th ranked NJ teams. Yes, it is not all top 10 but a decent tournament. And for all of the teams not in it, including my daughters, you should have entered. There will be decent points to be had.

Anonymous said...

4:16

Some really not so great teams in that grouping - sorry.....

Losses to FSA Navy and Sachem from Jun/July should be included as well.

Anonymous said...

7:14.

Judging by the history of this club and players coming in, I don't think a snapshot in time at u12 or u13 has any bearing at all with this team.

Do you? Its pretty pointless post considering what they have now, what they have coming in and what they have in regards to injured players soon to come back.

This team will be a formidable one.

They will follow in the footsteps of their older teams.

Whether they win a National title or not is not the point. The ride will be a great experience & these girls will be the better for it after their youth soccer experience is over.

The same can be said for Matchfit



Anonymous said...

If that group is not so great, who is great?

Anonymous said...

Same can be said for many teams 8:01

Anonymous said...

When 60% of the top teams in a State don't enter a so called "State Cup" tournament, then it goes from being a GREAT tournament (last year) to a DECENT tournament this year. Its pretty simple concept to understand.

Anonymous said...

Putting a few letters in front of a team name doesn't make them any better.

Anonymous said...

8:40.

noted.

Anonymous said...

8:43.

Any better than what?

Not sure of your context?

Anonymous said...

where there only one player called up to play this weekend for the north or two?

Anonymous said...

@ 6:14

#3 played #105 in round of 8 is all that needs to be posted for your "decent tournament."

Billy Bob said...

What I saw yesterday was a pda storm parent having a meltdown because his kid wasn't in, just sitting against a fence post pouting but when the kid went in he got up and went to sideline. After heard him mumbling repeatedly I don't know what I'm gonna do ......etc.

Pda south has a parent that I would like to shove a tennis ball in his mouth and wrap it with gorilla tape just to shut his BIG YAP up. Just so obnoxious. His kid and another girl from MF were getting very physical out there with each other the whole first half but when his kid got knocked down a few times he went friggin ballistic but when his kid did it , it was ok. So funny, finally his kid lost the battle and didn't play the second half and big mouth was quiet as a church mouse. If any of you have played Ajax you know who I'm talking about, glad he isn't on my team.
Oh and Ol' Slick managed to slither on to the coaches bench for MFA pre ECNL team. Lol. Where wil he go next.....nobody knows!!!!

Anonymous said...

Who is Slick?

Anonymous said...

A certain players father who gets to watch game behind players bench.

Anonymous said...

Takes some nerve, unless he is actually on the staff.

Anonymous said...

Some GS top 5 rankings

NJ
NJ only has 1 true top 5 team out of the GS top 5. I think after they accumulate some Bethesda and Pre-ECNL Gs points they should move close to be included in the top 5 and possible in the top 5 after teams lose their Fall points if they don't replace them with some results between now and january.
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL

NYE
WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01
ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL
ISA 01 NPL

PA East
PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT
FC REVOLUTION FORCE
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01

MA
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE
FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL
NEFC CENTRAL UNITED U13 GIRLS

CT - If FSA didn’t wreck the CT rankings for u13 one could say that CFS and FSA both have their ECNL and NPL teams in top 5? But they did and now we have their 3rd team as the number 2 team in state. Great job FSA – you guys know how to stay on top of things.

CFC WEST ORANGE
FSA FC U13 GIRLS ELITE 01
CFC ARSENAL SKY
OAKWOOD SC
FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01

VA
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01
BRYC 01 ELITE
PWSI COURAGE 01G RED
VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER VYS PRIDE '01 RED
FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01

Anonymous said...

My bad I forgot MD top 5
CES CALVERT CREW WHITE
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL
PIPELINE SC BLACK
PHWM SC PUMAS

Anonymous said...

Scores still not reported Two days later. I guess the question is did they even play the games?

TSF ACADEMY 01/02
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02

HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH

CES CALVERT CREW WHITE
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS

Connecticut FC 01 NPL
Albertson SC 01 NPL

Anonymous said...

NorthEast NPL – u13 Pre-ECNL
2.60 PDA 01
2.38 East Meadow SC 01
2.14 Boston Breakers Academy 01
1.89 Match Fit Academy 01
1.78 Penn Fusion SA 01
1.71 FC Stars of Mass 01
1.50 Connecticut FC 01
1.11 Albertson SC 01
1.00 FSA FC 01
1.00 World Class FC 01
0.38 FC Bucks 01
0.00 Continental FC 01

This is a nice look at the future as this is sure to be a great division for many years once it turns to ECNL. This year 10,000 GS points less each teams 20% is the reward for playing some great games. Need to research the % in seed gets.

Going into this weekend’s games.

Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Anonymous said...

I have to say its painful to not be in top 5 in NYE, and we all know we are better than ISA, Albertson, and Atletico, and even Charlton, maybe. It is what it is, we did not place in 2 major tournaments, but we can play with anyone, our Kung Fu is better than yours.

Anonymous said...

up until this week, there was a lot of noise around all the drama at MF and how they are going to form their roster at u14. Now it seems that the real issues and drama area at PDA. 24+ roster AND they are pulling players from their other teams for big games? HA... only in PDA World!

Anonymous said...

Hey Billy Bob -- I have more respect for the PDA parent you are ridiculing -- at least he has the guts to be himself in front of everyone instead of cowardly hiding behind a computer to stalk other parents, coaches and their kids. Maybe you should worry about your own household. Your feelings of inadequacy are obvious and you are giving yourself away by the comments you make, when you make them and where you make them. And you don't seem to care if 13-year old girls are reading this blog, do you? Maybe your own 13-year old soccer daughter is reading it? Nice message you are sending.

Anonymous said...

That is unfortunate to read that a father was saying what am I going to do. That seems to be how the ECNL world works. Do what is best for your child if having her on that team is not best for her.

Anonymous said...

NYCSL NPL
2.50 (4) 1: New York Soccer Club NPL-01
2.33 (3) 2: NJ Crush FC NPL-01
2.00 (3) 3: STA NPL-01
1.33 (3) 4: Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01
1.20 (5) 5: Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01
1.00 (4) 6: Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01
1.00 (4) 7: Quickstrike FC NPL-01
0.00 (4) 8: New York Rush NPL-01

This week’s ganes
Intense SA NPL-01
STA NPL-01
This is a big game this week STA has a chance to move within 1 pt of NYSC who is on bye while ISA who was predicted to be a top player in the league has only won 1 game in 4 falling way behind.

Manhattan SC NPL-01
NY Rush NPL-01
Manhattan should get 3 and move up the charts as NY Rush has not started their u13 campaign the way they would have liked.

Using NYSC NPL top 5 teams ranked Nationally to try and project their Flight Value:
Currently they have STA and NJ Crush still alive in NJ NCS to possibly move them up.

38: STA NPL-01 = top 1%
64: Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01 = top 2%
66: New York Soccer Club NPL-01 = top 2%
75: NJ Crush FC NPL-01 = top 2%
176: Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01 = top 4%

Projected flight Value 7,350

Anonymous said...

8:26 Wildcats and TSF both had meaningless state cup games so they probably didn't play edp this weekend

Anonymous said...

Virginia NPL
3.00 (5) 1: PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER U13G
2.60 (5) 2: VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB U13G
2.25 (4) 3: CHESAPEAKE UNITED SOCCER CLUB U13G
1.75 (4) 4: FC VIRGINIA U13G
1.50 (4) 5: RICHMOND KICKERS U13G
1.33 (3) 6: NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB U13G
0.80 (4) 7: RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB U13G
0.50 (4) 8: ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB U13G
0.25 (4) 9: CHURCHLAND SOCCER U13G
0.20 (5) 10: CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC U13G

This week’s ganes
ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB U13G
FC VIRGINIA U13G

PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER U13G
NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB U13G

CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC U13G
CHESAPEAKE UNITED SOCCER CLUB U13G

RICHMOND KICKERS U13G
CHURCHLAND SOCCER U13G

RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB U13G
VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB U13G

I still have a long way to go to familiarize myself with these teams and VA soccer in general. Before I can project flight values Would love some input from VA posters (I know you are out there). Getting a little bored talking about the same stuff, the hang ups some posters have with certain clubs/teams other kids/parents. But I guess it’s good for the blog – keeps the traffic high.

Anonymous said...

I love when an anonymous poster calls another poster a coward for posting anonymously.

Anonymous said...

Just my opinion of course, but pointing out the obnoxious behavior of parents and coaches, with the hope that they'll change their ways, is about the most useful thing this blog is for.

Anonymous said...

I love when an anonymous poster mocks another anonymous poster for calling another anonymous poster a coward for posting anonymously.

Anonymous said...

Yes, that is funny.
What is not funny is the wacky behavior of these parents at pda now that they are finding out it meant nothing to drive up there and spend all that money and time all these years as now players from outside their team and club who have played close to home for much less money and invested much less time in their cars sitting in rush hour traffic are
taking their little suzies playing time.

Anonymous said...

that's the way the ball bounces.. there are a lot of clubs that will take their money

Anonymous said...

State Cup Draws no different than the walk to semifinals pda storm received in last falls draw and in previous year. The draw has always been a big factor.

Anonymous said...

Game time is fun. Why would you not join a team where your child will play in the games?

They are not going to be pro players and committing to college sports makes sense for only a certain type of student. I would very wary of saddling my kid with such a big commitment beyond academics in college and she is a very good player. She will attend college to educate herself for survival in the real world first and foremost.

Anonymous said...

Yeah 9:54, we know you are all about the positive.

Anonymous said...

10:13 It's because for many of these parents, it was never about what is best for their child but about their own ego and living through their kid.
Of course it makes no sense that it could possibly be in the best interests of their child to remain on a team where they don't even dress for all the games and play sparingly when they do dress or not at all.
They are supposed to ENJOY their experience in youth sports and have an experience that will help them grow and develop as soccer players but also as well adjusted young people.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 9:36!

Anonymous said...

Makes you think if your team is rostered for 25, but only bring a select few plus bring up one player from your other team to a regular season game. You have to see that poaching must be really happening behind the scenes and your child might have minimal to none playing time.

Anonymous said...

They should cancel all games besides MF and PDA. Anything else is meaningless

Anonymous said...

Yes...hope they get media deal to broadcast them soon so we can all benefit from watching.

Anonymous said...

They could make a reality show like Dance moms filming the PDA parents.. It would be a huge hit. I know someone who pulled their kid off the team because the sideline was TOXIC.

Anonymous said...

There must be a youth soccer reality show in the works some where.

Anonymous said...

If I had the $$$ I would produce it. Would not even need to engineer the script, drama is already out there!

Anonymous said...

10:13
I agree with you. Why keep your daughter on a team when she barely plays and sometimes does not even dress for the game?
Some will say, she gains alot out of training with the top girls. Yes, that is true, but at 12 years old, doesn't your daughter want to play in a game? Most likely if your daughter is 18-24 on the roster, she is not coming back next year. Go to a good team where she can play more.
And worse case, if you think your daughter is getting a free ride to college, wake up. That will be MAYBE the top 1-3 girls on the top teams in the state. MAYBE

Anonymous said...

10:03- The only thing sadder is coaches from inferior programs continually blogging out here.

Anonymous said...

@ 10:10- PDA had a cake walk to the Finals last Fall.

Anonymous said...

It's really pretty basic:

This very thing has happened for my older daughter's team once upon a time.

....Now is the time to put together the pieces for the ECNL team.

Players will be judged on how they fit with the team.

Two players of equal ability can be viewed very differently by the coach. and a different coach can easily flip the script on the same two players.

All any player and parent can ask for is:

1) Did their daughter get a fair shot?

How much bias is in the process of choosing who gets to play and who gets to sit.?

2) Is the coach making the choice going to be the final coach making the choices or will the new coach make a new choice? ( disruption from inconsistency can kill the spirit of a team)

Parents can live with a one consistent voice but if too many people are making decisions then chaos can occur.



3 How are these decisions about playing time communicated.

This goes a long way!


Also Its more than a parents ego that keeps these kids at these high level organizations.

The child has forged friendships and bonds.

From my experience , many kids that have not gotten playing time at one establishment have gone on to flourish at another.


I Don't give Coaches that much credit in their choices. They are extremely subjective and different eyes see players differently.

Find the eyes that love your daughter and will let her play.

-Soccer Nut-





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Anonymous said...

PDA couldn't beat MF you mean

Anonymous said...



Which organization has more to prove!

Anonymous said...

And over and over and over.........

Anonymous said...

I'd like to hear some more about these toxic sidelines and parents who shout at their kid the whole game. Any one want to admit that they do this?

I used to do it all the time, until a couple years ago I was viewing a video of my daughter's team and I could actually hear myself on the video. It was awful. I stopped cold turkey after that.

Anonymous said...

yeah the video is great. I filmed a yelling coach once and sent him the video so he could watch the "high lights"

Anonymous said...

How about the parents who abuse the officials constantly.. every offside call etc

Anonymous said...

or the parents who follow their precious forwards up and down the field and annoy the spectators on both teams.

Anonymous said...

I think the mentality is that getting on the ref's back will eventually get their team an advantage. Kind of like how in the NFL it is shown that home teams are penalized less because the refs subconsciously want to please the crowd.

There are some parents who not only like to insert themselves into the game as much as they can, they feel it is their responsibility to do so. Like they'd be letting their kid down if they didn't. It's crazy.

Anonymous said...

"or the parents who follow their precious forwards up and down the field and annoy the spectators on both teams. "

Dear lord this drives me nuts. Stay opposite your team's bench on that side of the midfield people!

Anonymous said...

Wondering what PA guy could have against MF Academy pre ECNL.

What happened at the game, PA guy? Fess up.

Anonymous said...

That PA dude is not me. He said he was at that field to watch football, and just so happened to watch two or three girls soccer games, so clearly his PA cred is suspect.

Plus, us PA folk know better than to get in the middle of an NJ flame war.

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

PA Guy is Matchfit/NJX guy.

Anonymous said...

That hurts. You are besmirching my "PA Guy" brand with that accusation. I am the one who posts the PA Updates and sometimes ranks the top PA teams.

For example, 1776 will be missing one of their starting defenders for their big matchup against Penn Legacy this coming weekend.

See how that works? That's how the PA Guy rolls.

-PA Guy

Anonymous said...

Roll PA Guy, roll..

Anonymous said...

PA guy:

Take the Bethesda PA teams and rate them 1-8 (or whatever it is)

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Did PDA have a tryout this past weekend? I heard that somewhere. Are they getting rid of kids? I thought all teams were full

Anonymous said...

Come on rookie...... Teams are NEVER full if the right kid comes around.

Anonymous said...

New England NPL
3.00 (5) 1: NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
2.40 (5) 2: OAKWOOD SC
2.00 (6) 3: SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02
2.00 (5) 4: YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE
1.50 (6) 5: BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02
0.86 (7) 6: SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G
0.50 (6) 7: AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK
0.17 (6) 8: GPS-MA NPL


AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK
BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02
Both teams to win to either move up the charts or hold their currents spots as this is their last game of the fall. They will join Syracuse as they re-group for the Spring.

GPS-MA NPL
OAKWOOD SC
Oakwood should have an easy 3 while GPS ends their Fall hopefully with a high.

NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE
Both teams still have another game to play. NEFC looking to clinch first or at least their share of first with a win while Yankee would like to leapfrog Seacoast in the standings

Using New England NPL top 5 teams ranked Nationally to try and project their Flight Value:

22: SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 = top 1%
31: NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS = top 1%
100: OAKWOOD SC = top 2%
108: BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 = top 3%
128: GPS-MA NPL = top 3%

Projected flight Value 7,500

Anonymous said...

Won't matter who 1776 is missing . They are a good team but nothing exceptional . Penn Legacy is a much better team .

Anonymous said...

What we are seeing is:
1 - at least 50% of what determines which players will reach the top level/teams at U14 and above is the natural athleticism, innate physical characteristics and body type that is part of their genetics that they are BORN with and has nothing to do with where they play..
2 - There are a number of clubs and trainers who are properly developing these talented young players outside of the big clubs. If not, then the homegrown pda and mf players would not be losing their spots to players from outside their won clubs.

Anonymous said...

You are right of course, it is clear enough, but your premise will be attacked by the big 2 as they desperately want us parents to continue to cling to the idea that driving up there from U9 on will somehow give us an in house advantage come U14.

Anonymous said...

8:14- Agreed the NJ top 5 close but needs MF ECNL

1. PDA ECNL Recently ties MF ECNL, but used ECNL as a tie breaker
1a MF ECNL-
2. MF NPL
3. PDA South

Anonymous said...

North East NPL
3.00 Connecticut FC 01
3.00 FSA FC 01
2.75 PDA North 01
2.56 Match Fit Academy 01
2.40 PDA South 01
1.78 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
1.57 Boston Breakers Academy 01
0.86 FC Stars of Mass 01
0.63 FC Bucks 01
0.56 Continental FC 01
0.38 Albertson SC 01
0.17 World Class FC 01

Connecticut FC 01 NPL
FC Bucks 01 NPL
CFC after just 1 game played is on top of the table with a perfect 3 and they should add another 3 to their total vs FC Bucks

FSA FC 01 NPL
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
FSA also started with a perfect 3 will play a tough PennFusion team in a very important battle for one of the top 4 spots.

FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL
World Class FC 01 NPL
Both teams need a win to keep them in the picture

Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL
PDA South 01 NPL
Boston to try and continue current hot steak vs PDA South in another battle for one of the top 4 spots.

Albertson SC 01 NPL
FC Bucks 01 NPL
FC Bucks has the edge based on previous results.

FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL
PDA South 01 NPL
PDA Sou†h can end their MA trip with 6 pts while FC Stars in a must win situation

FSA FC 01 NPL
FC Bucks 01 NPL
FSA should add 3 points to their total after this game.

Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL
World Class FC 01 NPL
Boston in a very good spot this week to get 6

Connecticut FC 01 NPL
Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
This is an early season make or break CT trip for PennFusion. CFC trying to establish themselves as one of the top teams in the league early on.


Using North East NPL top 5 teams ranked Nationally to try and project their Flight Value:
I had to guess at the CFC NPL team. I took 2nd highest GS total.

16: PDA AJAX aka PDA South = top 1%
31: MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL = top 1%
76: CFC ARSENAL SKY = top 2%
91: PDA DRAGONS aka PDA North= top 2%
260: FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01 = top 6%

Projected flight Value 7,385

Anonymous said...

I agree, 12:37. PL is going to crush them. Especially after PL lost one last week.

Rank the Bethesda team?

1. PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)--wildly inconsistent (have beaten three teams above them in NPL standings, and lost to two teams below them in standings), but even when their game is off they are better than everyone else in PA except for Penn Legacy

2-6 can arguably go in any order, but this week I'll go with:

2. YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)-can beat almost anyone, right mix of physical and skilled

3. HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)--to borrow a phrase someone else used to describe an NJ team, "they play very organized defense". But is not pretty soccer.

4. 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)--I'd normally have 1776 higher, but they crapped the bed in back to back weeks against HMMS.

5. RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)--I want to believe in PA Classics, but I just can't shake the image of when I saw them play a year ago.

6. PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)--Yes, I have the first place team in PAGS ranked 6th. Too many one-goal wins.

7. CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (MASUHR) (PAE)--not a good team, but they gotta be better than the bottom two.

8. CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL (LAZARES) (PAE)

9. SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE)


Anonymous said...

12:52

PDA South's (ahem) effort vs MF's 3rd team is not cause for alarm?

I think maybe you leave STA where they are, add Averbush and kick Ajax to the curb

Anonymous said...

Banshees #2 is all I need to know - thanks, PA guy

Anonymous said...

1:25 Very surprising. I can't ignore the fact that PDA South beat Wildcats 3-1 this year.

I agree after PDA South you could have 3 to 5 teams in any order. Was trying to avoid that circus.

Anonymous said...

PDA Storm couldn't beat STA. What was that name people had for STA last year?...lol

Anonymous said...

1:25 I have to agree with you on this. I've looked at their results history and seen some tough games but a .500 team. Then when I read on this blog that MF Black beat them 4-0, wasn't the big piece for me because it was a friendly, but when I read they were missing 2 players that's why they lost 4-0. A top 5 team in a state is a well rounded team that is deep and can play players out of position to handle a lesser team, not a team that depends on 2 players to hammer a lesser team.

No disrespect to MF North. But PDA Ajax or PDA South what ever we want to call them based on GS should have had an easy time. 4-0 is a beat down anyway you slice it.

Anonymous said...

Like you, 1:40, I am also laughing out loud. I am laughing out loud because of what you wrote. It was very funny. Laugh out loud funny. Good one.

Anonymous said...

1:42 I have no idea about that friendly. That MF Jaguar team is horrible, look at their GS and EDP results.

Maybe Ajax/South had to wear blindfolds?.

Maybe PDA trying some new Jedi swamp soccer training.

I can't use a score from a "friendly", regardless of the teams.

I try to use head to head in tournaments or league play when applicable.

Anonymous said...

1:50 I get - I'm with you the 4-0 scoreline didn't bother me beat down or not.

But I can't hold a team to a high standard if they depend on 1 or 2 players. If you remove those players they become an average team - that is not a top 5 team in any state. That is an average team with 2 very good players.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you, 1:57. The poster who mentioned the two missing "impact" players and the poster who has been complaining about the call ups to the Storm (yeah, probably the same person) has been doing more damage to PDA South's reputation than anything I've seen posted about other teams on theses boards.

I suspected that that poster is just a very clever troll, but no one has come on to deny that it wasn't a PDA South parent...so maybe it is true.

Anonymous said...

Where are the quality Ajax wins after Wildcats?

Anonymous said...

Storm played STA? When?

Anonymous said...

2 weeks ago at EDP cup. They couldn't even put a goal in. (I am sure they will say injuries, bench players etc, but trust me, they were there to WIN)
Calvert beat them in the finals.

Anonymous said...

My daughters team has played a lot of friendlies. She plays for a team often mentioned out here. I have NEVER seen a score posted. Believe me, they have "lost" to teams that would light this blog up if posted.

Its a desperate measure by the Jaguar parents to get some attention. I agree with earlier post. Look at their gotsoccer and edp results .

Even if Ajax doesn't show up, I would expect a 0/0 draw with that Jaguar team.

Anonymous said...

PA DUDE. Is a dad that is divorced, had 3 boys and 1 daughter. I live in PA, mom lives in NJ. My daughter plays for PA club. No suspect here.

As stated, I ended up watching 2 soccer games plus my sons game.

Anonymous said...

Be honest. Was it a game where they were pounding them but could not score???

Anonymous said...

2:03- Don't know, don't care. I am not that guy. He does a great job researching past results.

I apologize for typing the word wildcats. The day was going smoothly and enjoyable out here today.

Appreciate PA guy and the NPL guys updates today. GS guy always does a great job determining flight values.

Anonymous said...

STA was doing the pounding. Missed some glorious opportunities. They should've won.

Anonymous said...

Take the PDA and MF ECNL teams out. Its a 5 team race. Any can win or lose against each other on any given day.

Thats not an insult, thats called good and balanced soccer.

Anonymous said...

Why would you take out Storm and MF. They can both lose to any of the next 3-4 teams.....

Anonymous said...

Right now. Not next couple years. They will get stronger and stronger.

Anonymous said...

A number of folks posted that bench players on PDA should go to other teams. Where would you suggest they go?

Anonymous said...

3:10 To there team of course. Why else would anyone care about another team.

Anonymous said...

Their team - what an IDIOT i am - not there team

Anonymous said...

2:34 you got it all wrong.

Another posted as many results as he could from a bunch of friendlies played.

I for one appreciated it

Anonymous said...

Teams playing Bethesda from leagues mentioned n this league. Should get some combo play and get an idea how teams stack up to each other. Just keep in mind this is a tournament with unlimited subs. When a Pre-ECNL and NPL team subs in league play that player can not come back in for the half and some teams will use Guest players

NYCSL NPL
ISA 01 NPL
Manhattan SC G01 Pride
Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies
NJ Crush FC Tsunami

New England NPL
GPS-MA NPL
NEFC Elite U13

Pre-ECNL
Continental FC Delco ECNL '01
Match Fit Academy FC Pre ECNL
Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL

NorthEast NPL
Continental FC Barca '01F NPL
FC Stars of Mass NPL
Match Fit Academy FC NPL

EDP D1
Harford FC United Thunder
Match Fit Academy FC Black North
NJ Wildcats Averbuch
NJCSA GALAXY
Pipeline SC Black

PAGS D1
1776 United Xtremes
HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT
PA Classics Academy 01
PHWM SC Pumas
Rage SC '01 Athletica
Yardley Makefield Soccer Banshees

Anonymous said...

I love the fact that people come on this blog and blast kids and their parents for being bench players for PDA and suggest they are wasting their time and should go somewhere else to play. Give me an idea of where these kids are better off going to? Let's look at the top 10 teams. Obviously if the could start for MF Pre ECNL they should go there. If not the what's left are the PDA and MF B teams, Wildcats, STA, Rage, NJSCA, Crush or TSF.

which one would you suggest? And why?

Anonymous said...

I am sure there are miserable bench players at every one of those teams you listed. Can happen anywhere

Anonymous said...

Find a team with a coach you respect and where she looks forward to practice and enjoys her teammates. If game time is important, find a program where she will get it.

Big bonus for some friendly parents that share your philosophy of youth sports whatever it is.

Anonymous said...

::golfclap::

Anonymous said...

Yes, if she is miserable in her situation then you need to move her, period. Find a place where she will get time and be happy with her soccer experience.

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Anonymous said...

NJ has one of the densest concentrations of soccer clubs in the country. Draw a 15 mile radius circle around your home, check out all the clubs in it and choose the best fit. Your not choosing a career, a spouse or a tattoo, it is just youth soccer.

Anonymous said...

4:47 the only people saying the kids are not happy are the parents from the outside or a coach or two trying to get kids to leave :)

I'm sure every parent that moved a kid to PDA or MF has thought about everything from their kid being able to play at that speed to how she will handle little to no playing time. You don't make that kind of a move to a club like PDA or MF in NJ unless you think about that.

I think if they wanted their kid to be the best on a team they wouldn't have moved. They just felt it was time to challenge their kids to see what happens either they stick with it or they take a step back. If that was a true story about the parent thinking to himself what do I do. The answer is simple talk to your kid and see what she wants if she wants to stay then let her work and don't expect a lot if she want's to leave then you run for the hills. I know it's a family decision when it comes to funds and time - but only one opinion should matter the most and that is your kids.

Anonymous said...

They are 12, some younger, they deserve some parental guidance in their choices.

Anonymous said...

5:07 - I agree - but this is a game that they play. You don't want them playing for us instead of playing for what they want? I want my kid playing where she want to play. All I can do is talk to her and let her know what I think is best for her to follow her dreams. BUT it is her choice where to play if the club/team wants her.

Anonymous said...

As long as her interests and the chosen team/club's interests are in alignment, I agree.

She cannot be expected to fully appreciate the business side of youth sports. As a parent, I know my child best. It is my responsibility to help her match her strengths/weaknesses with a team/club that will benefit her.

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's called being the parent/adult.
Your child is a child and is not always going to know what's the best decision in life.

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Anonymous said...

Why do you care how many coaches they had? PDA had 3-4 as well. How does that impact your daughter?

Anonymous said...

Blog mad that neither team lost. So we will attack coaches, bench players and refs.

Anonymous said...

MF had 4 coaches? Ok was one the DOC? Did coaches stay after there prior game? If yes, this happens all the time

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Anonymous said...

Two daddy coaches on MF?

Anonymous said...

"Obviously if the could start for MF Pre ECNL they should go there. If not the what's left are the PDA and MF B teams, Wildcats, STA, Rage, NJSCA, Crush or TSF. "

If she cant make another ECNL team, I would play games for the second team at PDA and practice with the first team

I would also look into NYSC, FC COPA, Jersey United,

It would depend on the coach for these age groups.

These would be the choices for my daughter.


Anonymous said...

Would a kid go from PDA or MF Pre ECNL teams to their B teams if they are cut or they are in the bottom 4-6 players? Hasn't really happened in the past.

Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't they? As you can see PDA and MF combined have 5 teams in NJ top 10 conversation. All Five teams are guaranteed to play for a National Event. ECNL has their events and NPL looks like it also has a Florida and California Showcase event.
These are good things, can be expensive but are good things.

When I read "B" teams I don't think of very solid teams. However, these 2 clubs have "B" teams that can beat most "A" teams including ECNL Club A teams and are very deep.

No other team that we talk about has a "B" team that gets as much press than these "B" teams. Show me another club that has a strong "B" team in NJ

Anonymous said...

I read the posts on this blog all the time and very very rarely write anything, but the post above saying that MF & PDA "B" teams are that good are complete nonsense!

There is no comparison between the Pre-ECNL teams and their next teams. And I am sorry to say, when you are on the lower team, you are fed the lies that there is a chance for your child to make the top team... I promise you, I swear, Your child has NO CHANCE!

Now there will be someone that writes, well we had a girl come up from the "B" team and is now playing for the "A" team. What that means is they are warming the bench 60 minutes of an 80 minute game so the starters have somewhere warm to sit for their 5 minute break.

Parents, please, if this is you, find your child a good NPL, EDP team, let you kid get a fair amount of play time and base your decision on the smiles your kids have after the game.

Anonymous said...

So I ask you, what teams should they go to? Specific names should be mentioned not generalities like "what is best for the girl".

Anonymous said...

Best is in the eye of the beholder.
You really need to look at each program and choose for yourself.

Anonymous said...

I think you need to be careful here.

You need to choose the coach and not necessarily the program.

The coaching ranks at u13 is pretty thin. There are teams with lots of wins but the quality of coaching is a bit suspect. As such the technical quality a bit weak and play has been masked by athleticism.

Perhaps I can help you but first I would need to know:

How far you would be willing to travel and what would be your area of preference.

Do you value a particular style ?


-Soccer Nut-


Anonymous said...

09:33 Depends on a lot.
1. What's your budget
2. Where do you live and how far are you willing to travel for training, league and tournament play
3. What's important to you in a club? Winning at all costs, training, nice uniforms, playing time, acronyms?
4. Are you ok going to a team with Daddy/Mommy coaches?

Anonymous said...

Soccer Nut,

I disagree with you about the coach aspect. If a club has an excellent structured program for their teams, then the coach becomes more of a program conveyor, than creator. Don’t get me wrong, a great game coach is still very crucial, but a club should be able to move coaches around teams and still maintain the high level of training. Its all about the training, the fast, sharp, tactical training that very few clubs can offer, its also more like a professional club, which can only help the young footballer later in life.

Anonymous said...

The above is true in theory, but even clubs with structured program have coaches who are very different in personality, tactics, game day, roster decisions, etc.

Anonymous said...

I agree the coach is very important, but a coach can leave at any time - be moved to a different age, leave the club for another, go back home...

so may be better to look more at club???

Anonymous said...

My daughter is on b team .she needs more playing time any suggests on teams. Top 10 teams roster sizes are to the max .ive checked teams 10 -15 any suggest on any of these teams.thank you .

Anonymous said...

Put her on a town travel team?
Middle school soccer. If she isn't getting enough playing time on a B team, maybe she isn't playing at the right level, or competing hard enough.

Anonymous said...

So no one has an actual suggestion for the bottom 4-6 players on PDA Pre-ECNL teams and where they should go? A prior poster suggested the other top 10 teams in NJ: PDA and MF B teams, Wildcats, STA, Rage, NJSCA, Crush or TSF.

None of these seem appealing to someone at that level.

Anonymous said...

@10:17


I only wish that was the case.

My experience is a bit different.

Even at the highest level of clubs with a structured program, often the quality of coach varies significantly. No matter how well intentioned the curriculum, coaches will coach in the style that they played the game. It is the attention to detail that makes a great coach not a club manifesto. If you go to Clubs like PDA or Matchfit , you will see varied coaching styles and different quality of training. You only need to look at the 14's and 13's of each club to see the difference. What you might be able to hope for with in each club is a certain floor on the quality of coach because these clubs have standards but a brilliant coach that pays attention to details will cut through the ordinary like a Knife.

Having said this, I will also admit that there is value to a strong club structure and this must be weighed in your decision making. But first, who specifically is training your daughter.

-Soccer Nut-




Anonymous said...

I would stay where you are. None of these teams and coaches are better options.

Anonymous said...

Good club options depending on location are:

South- PDA South/Ajax or SJEB

Central- PDA Shore, MF NPL, NJCSA

North- PDA North/Dragons, STA, FC Copa, Crush, TSF

I know I am going to get slammed for recommending all the PDA teams but they all train the same way. MF teams style of play varies by team. Remember MF takes over existing teams.

I think the teams I listed in the North will all get stronger with players leaving PDA or MF as playing time is reduced or outright cut.


Anonymous said...

@ 9:00

You may be right about most programs and this age group. However, MF is in a different position. Seems like they have quality players on 3 teams who are better than PDA's players. At u14, MF ECNL team will look very different. I think MF will have players coming from all over to try out. Seems like people are losing interest in PDA and contacting MF coaches.

Anonymous said...

"quality players on 3 teams who are better than PDA's players"

Needs clarification

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