I wish the 8:00 (am) blogger the best, but his daughters team will be doing mostly developmental work at Jeff. Cleveland worked the kinks out at Wags last fall. And although Cleveland lost to Classics there, they atoned for it by crushing Beachside SC 4-0 (Beachside beat Classics) and tied the 02 (Texas North) Sting that ended up winning their bracket at Wags. Cleveland also won the Superior Bracket as U12's (11v11) at Jeff last year. This years bracket will be easy pickings for them.
ajax-nysc winner takes that half
Where is the link?
By 10:20 Saturday morning Ajax parents will be wondering what time the Golden Coral opens so it will brighten up the day. Cleveland wins 3-1. Try the strawberries dipped in the chocolate fountain. But all is not lost as PDA gets a solid tie in the following game. Sorry about the link, only 7:51 can give that info. That conversation is his.Seth the Soothsayer
I do not have the updated list of call ups, but of 36 ladies named in last years U15 call ups, we have players from:Defenders- Albertson Penn FusionMids Maryland United FC Match Fit Academy PDAFowards Penn Fusion PDAHats off to these driven players and dedicated parents also.Can someone please find 7:51 from last evening? This content is his baby and he is showing no class at all by not giving out the link. He must be on blogs of different ages, posting rules of each blog and when its proper to post.
How do they pick the girls that go to US National Camps?
Your club or team has to recommend you to go to any USSF Training centers, and its a huge responsibility since their credibilty is on the line. Once they send you, you represent them in all aspects, so the player sent not only has to be a great athlete, but also a sound ambassador for your club. In other words, the player cannot reflect poorly on your club with any attitude issues, otherwise your club will suffer with not getting any calls from USSF looking for players in the future.
Each region (like region 1) has an associate state head coach. That head coach also has qualified associates that helps in in the selection from players seen at Region Camps and ODP camps and players seen during ODP. These coaches will try to select what they feel is the top players to go from their region, although as with any tryout, certain coaches may be looking for a certain skill set. And a National team coach may have sent out instructions of what he's looking for. Since he or she is the one that knows what they want their team to be. There may be even more ways for players to be seen, but 7:51 still has not reappeared and will not pass on his superior knowledge in these areas. He doesn't even have enough class to give congrats to the girls that are already on the National Teams. Starting to look kind of like a loser 7:51
8:29Which team was she on if I may ask? We couldn't be there but saw a number of those teams play this winter, a lot of really talented kids
9:10, please tell me what state you are from, so that I can craft my answer to your specific needs.
Gee thanks 8:29. I know it took a lot out of you to post all that. Is it possible that a mannequin has a little better personality and easier to like (probably has more friend too)? Hey!! I hope I didn't just change the context of the blog. 8:29 hates that.
Crystal Ball says that 8:29 must have at least one friend. Based on the fact that there is always somebody more miserable. It has been written, it is now fact.Seth the Soothsayer
Sounds like the CRUSH guys claiming another Jeff cup result. Won't come right out and say it , because the last 5 tournamanets that he has talked, alas backfired...
what CRUSH team? There is so many of them.
Not for long - most of the girls are trying out for ecnl clubs.
Not sure where they would play
I would say World Class, since most live in Northern NJ...
How about that Albertson vs Pda game today?
Website says Albertson 1-0 over PDA PreECNL
How about PDA South versus Alberston NPL?
It's not a typo. Probably out coached out played or both.
PDA not going for the win. Strictly working technical and tactical with all players. Its why they have girls at all level on the National scene.
7:09That's bull. I hear things are not good over there. Players barely playing and many player sitting out. What happened to the UNDEFEATED Blogger who was talking all that smack last week. Not undefeated anymore pal.
While I am not sticking up for PDA, I think you will see some early upsets given the lack of playing outdoors and maybe even the lack of practice time. Those teams that have an indoor option could have an advantage. I think we will see some unexpected results at Jeff Cup.
You think things are not going well at PDA? Wait till the Wildbrats go 0-3 next week. Then you'll see some unhappy campers barking at each other. Althoughthey probably tie one game, maybe with Legacy.
Sorry to disappoint you, but unlike some, Wildcats parents and players are a very close and happy bunch.they just had a great team party to celebrate the beginning of another season together last night.And they ALL dress and play good minutes every game. so they don't have those issues with players barely playing and players sitting out.But hey, they don't claim to be the best of the best either, just a good competitive team who can hang with anyone.
The first pre-ecnl games are in the books and we can say see you later undefeated season to PDA Storm. After the great fall they start the Spring with a goose egg against the 3rd team from the bottom. Weather or no weather this should have been a W. WC also had an opportunity to make up for the fall but played to a scoreless tie vs EM who missed a golden opportunity to move closer to PDA. MD took care of business, played FSA and knocked them down and with the Albertson win they leap frog both FSA and WC in the standings.I read on this board to keep an eye on Albertson as they have improved, looked like they may have. Good job to all the girls playing today.0 PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL2 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Wasn't Albertson bottom of the table in Pre-ECNL in the past fall season?That is a horrible loss anyway you slice it. Early season or not still counts as a loss and opens up that league for a bunch of other teams to win it.
I guess Albertson played to win while working on technical and tactical skills.
Can't have it both ways, coming on here bragging about undefeated league record in fall trumping horrible tiyrnemanet record, then losing to pre-ecnl league bottom feeder albertson and saying only playing for development, not a league win.
Dysfunctional Storm group ready to implode with many parents unhappy with lessened roles and at each others throats behind their backs. Much complaining about favoritism and trashing of each others children.This season they will be a prime example of what a brain dead idea these new expanded, bloated rosters are for U13 Girls teams. Their greed will come back to haunt them very quickly.
There are many ways into the national camps. ODP is definitely one of them. At 01 id happens at the ODP national camps. As they get older there are natioanl scouts at the ODP interregional at Boca Raton. The training centers are another way. The one in PA is odd. They have only asked 6 clubs (5 initially including a team with only 99 and 00) for players and excluded some obvious choices like YMS. They picked the 3 ECNL clubs and Penn Legacy along with CLassics. The Penn Strikers added a few 99 (now aged out) and 00. The head guy moved club association to FC Rev and they added a few from there as well. Hardly a comprehensive sweep at PA talent. Now there is a National training center "regional combine" in PA encompassing the Northeast region. Only a small fraction of NTC kids invited at each age. National scouts will be there. Time will tell if anyone gets added from these. In any case they are soccer resume builders.USSF Scouts also attend ECNL events. They will be checking out 01 in SC in May for sure. The ECNL coach submitts the names and numbers of kids that he considers to be national level talents. They get a look, but arent definitely in unless supported by the scout. There is some politics to the process for sure. The scouts go to Sanford and PDA among the other ECNL events. They also attend national league games looking for talent. So the ECNL doesnt have a complete lock, but there is definitely an advantage, Unless your kid does ODP, National League (when older), plays ECNL, or invited to national training centers, they are unlikely to be identified. Not the widest of nets for sure, but there still are multiple ways to be identified if the kid is good enough.
9:05 is PDA club hired infomercial to deflect attention from today's disaster vs Albertson.
if you put enough players in the box and kick the ball really far, you do hang with teams and earn a lot of ties, and sometimes it even feels like a win. Its not great for development of girls skills, but it is called soccer. But there is nothing wrong with that style as long as you are building towards your daughter playing high school soccer some day.
Wrong not pdaJust answering the poster who asked how a kid can get identified by the USSF for a national camp.
Really 835? Don't be so sure.
No objective observer should be suprised by that Albertson/PDA result. There is nothing in PDAs tournament results to suggest they are an elite team. Yes they had a good run in their fall league but as I said numerous times, most teams use league games for development and play tournaments to win. Storm claims they do the opposite which explains the league results. But I said when the other teams start focusing on winning like Storm does, the PDA parents would be shocked. I bet they are today. And tomorrow they have to play EM with the potential of being knocked out of first place. Things could get really ugly really early this spring over there.
8:29Would anything less than a tournament championship be viewed as a success to you? If the Wildcats went 0-1-2 with a 1 goal discussion against FCV(arguably the best team on the east coast) and 2 draws against PL and Tri-State(also 2 of the best in the region)would you call it a failure? Could your kids team as well? I doubt it.
If PDA was working on Development today, why did the weaker players only get a few minutes each half? It looked like they were trying to win today. Maybe their luck has just run out!
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I didn't think PDA had "weaker players". The whole squad is national team quality, right?
PL/GB game was postponed.
Stop with NJ Wildcats, do they get top flights of tournaments yes. They AVG 1.00 pts per game that's 1 Win and 6 ties out of 9 games Is that bad NO, is it good NO, For example WC has a 1.00 pts per game avg and they are currently in 9th place in the Pre-ENL flight. So the question is - Why are the NJ Wildcats any different than WC? WC has played 8 games vs PDA, EM, MF, Boston, FC Stars, PennFusion & CFC all F1 teams same as the NJ Wildcats 9 gamesI know I'm jealous my kid's team isn't in F1. Just pointing the obvious a 1.00 AVG is not worthy of top flight and either is Calvert with their 1.14 pt per game avg. Prove me wrong at Jefferson.Just like i said PDA Storm's Fall league record was impressive, I also called them out today and said they should have had the W vs Albertson. Keep playing strong girls and don't worry about the posts on this board, it's just a bunch of fools having some fun
No shame, PDAAs someone wisely said here, Albertson is a vastly improved teamOnward. Chin up now.
Thanks 10:30 Region1 site not updated yet.
7:09 First I am glad PDA is finally working on technical skills. Personally they need itNext, If your team was not trying to win today. Please explain to me why there was 5 minutes added for injury time, especially when there were no injuries. Your referee's tried to get your team back in the game. Fortunately, for us, it did not affect the result, the better team won today
10:01 is right on the money with being pleased if they can manage two draws and maybe a win against top flight competition. Legacy will head into the Jeff Cup without having the benefit of playing any friendlies and possibly not even getting on the big field. So for PL to come away with something similar against FC Virginia, Wildcats and NY would be a tribute to the girls ability. Good luck first game Wildcats, see you in the second one.
9:47That sounds great. if PDA does win the Spring season,I am sure you will be the first person back on here saying that you were wrong.I am sure you have no personnel bias, right?
11:03 thanks and we also look forward to the great competition next weekend.Best of luck to you as well!Neither of our teams has anything to prove to these Yoyo's.
9:39 Yes, we are sure.You won't be seeing any of our players at your tryouts.Guess you will have to develop the ones you have. Good luck with that.
The Champions League Game between Legacy and Binghampton may never happen. Binghampton first refusing a Saturday Game and asking for a Sunday play, then refusing again because the drive time would cost them two players due to time of church service and that it would affect their overall game. I am all for supporting the beliefs of families and having their youth involved. Wouldn't this have been a great chance for Binghampton to get other players involved and enjoy watching girls rise to the challenge. Instead this is simply a case of one team wanting another to come to them and play on their fields with their refs. Until there is a true commissioner and a real penalty for not playing a game scheduled, this league will falter because teams are allowed to due as they please. Of course, Binghampton did say that Legacy may come to their place and play (which Legacy did twice last year). It a shame, because the concept from Region 1 was great, unfortunately the enforcement of play lacks teeth. Hats off to South Shore Select, despite all the snow (and they have been crushed with it), is still trying to make the games happen.
Very True 8:55pmMany Fall games our team squeak by with wins\ties, when our team should have lost. Parents are very unhappy, very unhappy. Coach now, what an EGO. Really pissing off so many parents
11:18 and it's only just beginning.Impossible for that team to be happy campers with those numbers at this young age.
ECNL website shows PDA has 21 players listed on the team. Assuming 2 goalies that would mean 19 position players for 10 spots on the field. I would want to be the in the bottom 3rd of that team.
9:54, perhaps the GB girls need some time at church to atone for their nasty play, forgiveness begins at home. Its a shame though, and really does reflect poorly on the league, and to be honest its a ridiculous distant to travel for 1 game, ridiculous. PL should of played in EDP, better competition and they could stay over-night with their Wildcat pals.
Why is everyone attacking Storm for 1 loss? I have no connection with the team, but after reading the posts I have to admit that some of the rhedoric is stupid, nasty, and more stupid. No need for any Storm parent to defend, no need for anyone to attack. I guess its the price of success. My daughters team has never played Storm, but if they ever do play, I am going to tell her that this is best team in NJ, so play your very best.
11:52 no one is attacking anyone.If I post that they had a great fall and beat some great teams I can't not post if the drop one they should have had. Albertson prior to game was 3rd from bottom out of 11 the win helped them leap frog WC and FSA and helped support the posts that said they were an improved team.
True, but we all know that at any level of sports a team can beat another, 1st vs. last has created some great drama throughout history, no? Albertson is a good team, they beat EM, STA and Atletico this past December, which is impressive. I am just tired of the constant negative crap on this board.
P.S. As far as parents not being happy, haha. Please find me one parent who is completely happy, and I’ll call him/her a liar. Its the nature of competitive parents to never be completely happy, and that includes school grades.
PDA comes on this board stating we are the BEST, we are undefeated. We have the best coaching.They lose a game, all of a sudden they are working on technical skills. Not worrying about winning. BSThis coach is not playing many players. He is focus on a select few only. Be on a bottom 3rd, not bad if you are playing. This is not the way at PDA.I have been saying this for sometime, this team is very dysfunctional. Parents do NOT LIKE EACH other.The World Class, Match Fit and even Wildcats parents get along
It is all a matter of being ready, 12:17STORM was ill prepared for the Albertson swarm.And you dont get league games back.They could still win it all. It'll be interesting.
12:30, were you at the game? What do you mean by swarm, did they press PDA? Its what all good teams must do, press, press, press, and that’s when the magic word comes into play, fitness. Its one thing to be fast, its another to be quick, but being fit is the most important factor if teams are equally matched skill-wise. If a team can press their opponent they will win the majority of games, because at this age, the girls are still prone to kick-away out of trouble, not hold and shield until a player becomes open.
Re: parents not liking each otherThe club creates such competition between players, rather than family atmosphereThey make it about getting ahead in the sport, about college, when the kids are so young.Long range goals are great but the air of always needing to know where your daughter stands in team pecking order leads to unrest
12:36Its a message board. Question and answer is down the hall.
12:41, you are right, I did get the message that you are an asshole last night, sorry that I forgot.
EM v PDA result ?
Or was it cancelled due to lack of fitness?
11:52.. Very best in NJ? How did you arrive at that statement. Don't get me wrong. PDA is a quality team but to say they are the best team in NJ is premature. Judge this team not the club. Can you make a argument to put them #1?
12:57, I have to admit that was funny, but you make light of my profound statement. If you don’t think conditioning and fitness deter the outcome of games then you have no clue about soccer. Go NYCFC!
Its just my opinion 12:58, they seem to be the best based upon the strength of schedule, and no I don't really want to debate, I need to make my daughter run a few laps before it starts raining.
EM forgot to set their clocks forward, they forfeited the game, PDA will gladly take the win.
EM played World Class0-0 tieEM could have pulled within one point of PDA, who now has a 3 point lead on Match Fit (who won) and EM
Going to be some wacky results in early spring. Teams have had various levels of practice outdoors and indoors. My daughters team has only been outdoors once for practice and scrimmage. Very little indoor practice since January. Scores this weekend could be a reflection of this. Will make for a very interesting Jefferson Cup. Southern teams should have an advantage. Interested to hear how teams have been practicing over the past month. Couldn't have been much outdoors.
Anyone have some insights into Albertson? They seem to get blown out some games and are competitive in others. They lost to Storm in Fall 5-0.
1:15That was so yesterday!EM & PDA were scheduled to play at 10 this morning, but since PDA Parents were on here this morning, I'd guess that game was postponed.
Yes, postponed a while ago.....soooo yesterday, dudeBoth teams likley happy to not have 2 in one weekend this early
9:54 & 11:47That game will happen, the fine is high and a forfeit I believe eliminates the teams from both the regional bid and the national league berth, and that's the real prize IMO. Who is playing EDP that you think would have been better competition than Reg 1 league? THe driving is just the drawback to being an elite team.
I think 1:27 is right. My daughters team has had a decent amount of indoor practice but not much outdoors.
No one has had any outdoor practices, its all indoor, and we all know that you have to practice on the big-field to become use to spacing, its going to be ugly for a few weeks. But, if we play indoors we are good to go! 1:42 good one.
With Albertson - are they whole?In many of the results the past year that did not go their way - no - you didnt see the entire current roster at the gameSame for other teams? Yeah, thats fair as well.
Why wasn't the full roster there at every game for Albertson? Injuries? Or do some girls not travel?
PDA pulled another PDA move.Once they lost to Albertson yesterday, they decided to canceled game vs EM. Normal BS
I agree that is BS. If game could have been played it should have been played.
Storm could have worked on their technical and tactical skills today on a 49 degree temperature but they don't want their butt kicked by EM.
3:25 Yes, I heard they are cancelling the whole Storm season.From now on they will only train and play friendlies at PDA vs other pda teams or international teams.And no observers will be allowed at games and scores will not be posted.They will still play 40 minute halves and all 24 girls will be allowed to dress every game and all the 12 field subs will each play 3 minutes per half(36 minutes total) with the starters playing the remaining 4 minutes per half each so there is maximum development for all.Oh, and the keepers will split time. Once this was announced the GS and PA guys calculated that fully 15 minutes of that total of 40 minutes per half of playing time will actually be used by subs running on and off the field.Also the above system will be put into the USSF guidelines for all youth teams/players/clubs for maximum development.
3:50 Too funny!!
Yet somehow they will still send over 50 girls per year to D1 schools.
I thought that was funny. Peculiar funny. No need for the name calling.
Soccer fans 60k plus to watch a US pro league game.BRAVO Orlando. Watch out Seattle. We still don't have that kind of Support in the Mid-Atlantic / Northeast. DC United played a champions league game in front of no one. But Montreal packed in 30k+ I hope NYFC, Red Bulls, Philadelphia & New England do better. We need support then our youth will have a true passion for the game and as the league gets stronger the more creative players come over the more our kids will see first hand from the stands. Good Time
WC did what storm couldn't do - beat Albertson to reclaim 8th place.3 World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
You could have just called them pompous PDA Parents. That certainly would have been accurate.
Only issue PDA has now, Is Match Fit belongs to same league. I personally thought MF Commitments are more impressive than PDAsThey are not the only kid on the block any longer.Now they have to teach skills instead of stealing the better players. The biggest question that the whole soccer industry has, can they do this?I do not believe they can
Look for WC to win their bracket at Jeff Cup, with 2 tough games played, they will be tough to beat.
I see it's acceptable for PDA people to engage in name calling of that gentlemen. TSK, tsk.Or are you really as pompous as described.
So much for the theory that Albertson is just a much improved team.
I think its more about PDA not being as good as advertised than Albertson improving to new heights.WorldClass certainly proved that today if the 3-0 score is accurate.
The latest updates about girls youth soccer talks about the need for a DA and possible birth year changes coming soon. How will this effect current teams? Could be huge impact for the older girls. They also talk about the importance of girls playing up. Thoughts?
Another PDA infomercial to change the subject.
What does the above have to do with PDA ? gonaway troll.
6:21Is this a new statement? If so please provide a link. 6:32Don't be so cynical, the entire soccer universe doesn't revolve around PDA.
Would love to know if this birth year change will happen and if it will take affect this year. Game changer if so!
DA , age changes in youth soccer , playing up.What does this and PDA have to do with each other? Give it a break already. Storm lost a game and we all love it , now move on please.
Soccer AmericaWomen aim not to get run over No mention of PDA - so settle down trolls.
6:58That has nothing to do with PDA!!! Not everyone on this board cares about PDA!!! Wow
I'll say it here. Wildcats will win thier bracket and will be in finals at Jeff Cup with a good shot of winning it all.
.S. Soccer is exploring three initiatives that it hopes will strengthen the women's program:-- residency program for girls;-- development academy for girls; and-- summer program for college women."I think it is quite likely that at least a couple of those programs will be implemented relatively shortly," said Gulati, "and we'll look at all three."-Soccer America
I hope they do - because a 1.00 PTs per game AVG in F1 is not very good and those days at F1 might be numbered.
Lot of rain coming in Richmond.Not looking good for Jeff Cup.
7:39 ECNL makes the most sense to me for DA followed by USL W-League as the summer program for college women as it is D2 for NWSL and since MLS and USL also have a relationship.That would be special College Soccer going to a full year - Starts in Fall Ends in Spring but continues with a summer program. VERY NICE.
Hell NO, letting PDA get off. Not a chance. After hearing this team is undefeated all winter long. They lose. They need to hear about it.Especially how a loss brings out the parents whose child did not play much. Many players will be at MF, WC tryouts
7:39 still trying to stir up trouble.He is not from wildcats.Wildcats will be happy to hold their own in that tough bracket.FCV definitely has earned the favorite role on that side of bracket.Would say Cincinnati slight favorite on other side of bracket.FCV odds on to win it all based on recent past performance.Very strong side.
At this age group, Is PDA truly a better ECNL choice than Matchfit I am not so sure as this age group is strong at match fit Both teams are good teams but only one can go to the playoffs next year at u14.I think it gives the kids and parents who want to play in the ECNL some real solid choice.PDA may have the pedigree but i believe they dropped the ball at the u13 level.Thoughts?
Thoughts?I think they are a quality team. What else is there to say?Have no idea what the turnover to U14 will look like
To be honest, tough call. I see Match Fit is doing very well to date in all age group (same as PDA) with exception of U14 (neither PDA or MF fairing well here)I am not a PDA fan, I was never a fan of all things they do to tilt things in their favor.
Rain prediction for Jeff Cup only getting worse. Not looking good.
It does say on website that top flights and u16-u18Have turf fields as a back up, so they will at least get to play
They lost a lot of money last week, and canceling this weekend would be disastrous for them, that said, they may forgo all grass-field games, so u-10-u12 might not happen, but our games are on turf. It just shapes up as a miserable playing environment, such is a soccer-life!
Jeff CupTop bracket plays at Striker Park1 turf field there2nd bracket plays at Ukrops Park0 turf field3rd bracket plays at Stratton park2 turf fields4th,5th & 6th bracket plays at Dorey park0 turf fields7th bracket plays at Warhill SC GrassBu there are 7 turf fields there8th & 9th bracket plays at James county0 turf fieldsSo there are turf fields around to use if the weather gets bad but will they switch to them?
I think that at this point they should seriously consider moving all games to only turf fields, otherwise you are going to have some really sloppy games this weekend, and weeks of serious complaining on this board.
There has already been years of serious complaining here, why stop now. :)
I know, I know, but what happened to the positive and encouraging blog that one poster tried to start, it lasted like 2 hours, oh well.Personally, my daughter would be devastated to not go to Jeff Cup, she loves staying at a hotel and hanging with her teammates outside of the soccer field, especially since she does not go to school with any of them, its a chance to just a chance to be a young lady, and we all know that girls just want to have fun : )
To be honest, we are praying it's cancelled. My wife went last year and I have to go this year, can't stand the drive, especially Sunday coming home.
Yeah, the drive sucks, 7-8 hours for us, but what can we do, pray for rain? P.S. Please don’t.
Some of you may not be cut out for this.Theres no place on earth I'd rather be this weekend because nothing makes my daughter happier than playing soccer.
Thank you Mr. Soccer-pants.8:48, your daughter will not be so happy when she, and her team, lose to my kids team! So expect some “Daddy, I thought you said we were going to win?” on the drive home.
8:48Where did that come from?!?First, my daughter is mature enough to realize that success this weekend doesn't nessessarily mean going 4-0 and taking home a trophy. If your kids team can beat mine, good for them, they must be one heck of a squad and we will enjoy the competition. Second, anyone who is telling their kid they are going to win (I assume you are D1) is setting them up for disappointment. I told mine they will have 3-4 great, hard fought games against the best teams in the region. All are sklled and the winner will come down to who plays with the most heart 100% of every game. And as long as she plays her heart out, which she always does, we will have a great drive home together. Mr. Soccer-pants
I know you are into it 9:08, just jerking-your-chain.WTF, why not have some fun on this board, its always so serious, and self-important. I tell me kid the same stuff, play hard and play fair, and let the chips land where they may. TBH: I just want her to feel like she played well, and not worry about her weaker teammates, which she does occasionally, its not out of malice, its leadership in my opinion. P.S. Glad you wear the soccer-pants in your family ; )
Most often doesnt come down to playing with heartI think teams are pretty even in the WANT TO department
9:34, could not disagree more.Most of the teams in the top 3 flights in the tournament are all equally-skilled. They all train with intensity, and have learned their positions. The outcome of most of these pressure-packed games is based on who gives 100%, and who gives 99%.That, and luck.
9:39 I disagreeYou can give 100% all you want - sometimes that doesn't come close.No teams are equally skilled once we leave the top 1% of teamThey might all be athletic some bigger than others but it will come down to one of the below:Who chases the ball and leaves their spot open on? Who kills an attack because their pass doesn't have the proper weight? Who doesn't pass the ball to the open player because they have their head down and is not seeing the field. Who dribbles the ball half the field only to lose possession.I hate saying it but a team will win because of a mistake a player makes on the other team. These are u13 girls playing soccer, the pros make mistakes and so will these kids. The winners won't care, but you can only have one winner in every flight. So just enjoy and remember it's only a game.
10:05But that's just it, we are only talking about the top 1% of teams, at least in D1. I belive all these teams have tied each other some on multiple occasions this fall. All are equally skilled. And giving 100% means mentally as well as physically btw.
10:12 your assumption is that the teams in F1 are in the top 1%. They might be the best teams in this tournament but that doesn't put them in the top 1%. All these teams are good.
Regarding tryout registration through Got Soccer, anyone know if your current team/coach will see that you registered for tryouts at different club? It would show up on the players page as an upcoming event but does your current team see that?
wins only:a) one team clearly superior, knocks in a goal or 3 and wins- 35% of timeb) teams are equal and a mistake by the defense or a supreme offensive effort for the winner proves decisive- 55%c) team that wins was outplayed but opponent could not score and winner was off one quick counter, a restart or a sloppy misplay by the loser- 10%
10:21Are you kidding me? 7 of those 8 are ranked in the top 1% of the country and don't even try to argue PF isn't also on that level. Who else in Reg 1 is better? PDA and NEFC fell flat this weekend against inferior competition. EM, MF Pre-E?, maybe but have they beaten any of those teams to prove they are better?
10:53Nice made up statistics. I've seen hundreds of games from rec to premier to college to pro and I can probably count on ine hand the number of times I watched a team that played with more heart lose.
Who beat NEFC?
10:58 I will take you up on this challenge? What are you using to say 7 0 of the 8 teams are ranked in top 1%?is it apples to apples across all 50 states? Are you using GS? I hope not.For GS to be valid - every league needs to use GS,every tournament needs to use GS. AND we know that is not fact.Example.NYCSL NPL gives points for Fall and Spring even though it's a straight through league. So teams playing in this league bring higher points to any tournament they play in. On the flip side PAGS doesn't give GS points at all.Using your argument PAGS D1 would be a 9k flight. That would increase their ranking and decrease NYCSL NPL team rankings. Those are the two extremes - then we have NPL pre-ECNL flight also a straight through league giving points just once instead of twice one for fall and the other for spring That's 10k awarded to teams twice. This would also shift the balance of the top 1%. I'm not even talking about tournaments like the Pre-ECNL SC event - a 10k topflight that will go unnoticed. But yet you are going to quote GS and say 7 of the 8 teams are in the top 1%. I truly hope you don't believe that.
Match Fit beat Cincy Cup Gold....., 10:58
STORM vs top 8 in NJ, last 12 months.....2-0 vs Ajax1-1 vs NJXany others?
1 tie each with STA and MF ECNL.
Storm Lost 2-3 to Calvert Crew in November
0-2 vs wildcats last May
These 3 teams can not be considered top 1% They have played in top flights and their pts per game avg is under 1.50Are you going to tell me that a winning % under .500 is top 1%?Please stop. Good teams for sure - I couldn't tell you if they were top 1% and you for sure can't unless you have seen every team play in all 50 states to make such a claim.Top flights of major events or pre-ECNL leaguePF 1.38 Pts per game or .500 winning%Crew 1.14 Pts per game or .429 winning%NJ Wildcats 1.00 pts per game or .444 winning%Are you SAYING these teams are top 1%???
Is it true FCV has been practicing outside since early Feb? Haven't they had much snow on the ground down there?
storm vs. ajax.... you're really using that match-up? that's hysterical. would the PDA brass really put their 'A' team in danger of losing to it's 'B' team? losing to ajax wouldn't bee good for recruiting. I'm not saying the games are fixed... but I'm sure there are measures taken to ensure the "right" result.
11:09They entered the b level GPS tournament and failed to make the finals. On that level, yes, better, no.
On the flip side PL and FCV both have a pts per game avg over 2 and a winning % of .750 in top flights of major events.You still saying I have a thing for PL?Am I still looking to knock them or am I trying to be fair?As far as PDA - Isn't Storm A - Dragons B, Ajax C and Shore D?At u13 Storm is Pre-ECNL aka ADragons beat Ajax head 2 head and also finished higher in the standings of the same league, wouldn't that make Dragons B team? But I guess if you go by Jefferson Cup flights Ajax is B team and Dragons are C team. let's see what happens in NJ Cup and in Spring NPL both teams are in the same events. that's how an outsider sees things.
Top 1% of country is 56 teams. Assume half are reg 1 &2 that's 28. Pls name 28 teams, no order needed that are better. BTW, I would put MF on this level,but no team is truly "better".
Every team in top flight at jeff cup is in top 1%.They are all competitive at the highest level and have a chance to win vs ANY U13 team on any given day.They rarely lose games even to other top teams. Nobdy wins most of their games vs teams at this elite level.that is the whole point they are all very competitive and there are many ties between all of them when they play each other.the way you determine teams that are Not in that top level or 1% is that when the teams that do not belong play vs teams at that elite level they get blown out by 3-5 goals or go home 0 and 3.
No, 11:38Storm is AThe rest are "not the A"Why did one poster say CALVERT whe the list was of New Jersey opponents? I dont knowThe Wildcats games - yep, there is thatPoint is best team in NJ doesnt have to prove it often. And has a 30% or so New Jersey win rate....
PDA Storm also lost to Cup Gold, who Match Fit defeated.Wildcats and Match Fit have claims to best in NJI am fine with just listing a top 3 and having no order. STA knocks on the door, of course.
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Storm also 2-0 win vs NJCSA Galaxy (when they were Imperials)
Below are some of the states of region 3 & 4.WA and OR arenot big GS users either is the Southeast. I think we need to stop thinking our crap doesn't stink and open our eyes.Region 4 hasCA, WA & ORRegion 3 hasFL, GA, NC & TXWhen it comes to supporting SoccerNJ, NY, PA, DC & NE are at the bottomhaving said that.750 PL.750 FCVthese 2 belong in the top flight.500 PF.444 NJ wildcats.429 CalvertThese 3 teams should be replaced and looking at results no spin - I can see F2 or F3 teams getting a look in the future over these teams.
At this age Reg 1 teams consistantly beat the best FL,GA,and NC has to offer. TX is of coarse a different story but no match ups yet to compare. With the exception of 2-3 teams Reg 2 doesn't compare either. CA is likewise in a league of there own but OR and WA? Might want to consider AZ as well. And just because I'm looking at GS, don't think I'n so short sighted as to just see the point totals. You can get a pretty good idea of a team by looking over the record - MF vs STA for instance.
11:57That was a forfeitTeam already folded
12:14 just keep dreaming and rationalizing.That is the only way you will ever see F1 again with your team.They are NEVER going to put ECNL clubs B Teams in the top flights of these elite tournaments.Even your own clubs don't want that.
11:57.. That 2-0 win was a forfeit. The game was never played
12:14 is obviously a team from F2 or F3 at Jeff Cup and have to make a caseYour logic is just that, your own logic.
How do they expect to be moved up to F1 when they can't win the B and C flights?
12:14 -It's old NJX Celtic all along.they have grinded that axe down till it's dull.
Wow. dude - slow your roll with Penn Legacy. They are still in 11 v 11 diapers.
You guys had better lobby for more forum space early. At this rate we will be at 5000 before the weekend
12:38 Like I said - you can spin or try to deflect however you like it still doesn't change the fact that a team with a winning % under .500 has their days numbered as F1. PDA Ajax, NJ Crush and NYSC just got knocked out of the top flight. NJX hasn't seen a top flight at a major this season.These winning% are fact at major tournaments ONLY (Spirit, FC Stars, Bethesda, WAGS). A sub .500 is not elite, but you can spin it that way.I believe Calvert was given the nod as they were the elite champions last year. The right decision they had to promote them. Without that no way they are F1..444 NJ wildcats.333 PF.333 CalvertTeams no longer in F1 of major events.500 PDA Ajax.250 NYSC.167 NJ Crush
This is the last 3 months for the old NJX. Enjoy it people. It was good while it lasted
ajax had their chance at top flight last year and were non-competitive at 0-3 outscored 10-1 at jeff cup in f1.I don't think they are lobbying to be F1 again anytime soon.
Have decisions been made?
1:36That is what he said
1:25 you haven't said who you think is more deserving for F1 in future than PF, Wildcats and Calvert.who are you promoting from F2 or F3 that is more deserving of F1 status?Who has a better resume in recent F1 or vs top teams overall than those 3 who are currently being placed in lower flights?
NJX was over the day they signed up for Matchfit. Why are we still talking about them. 2 different philosophies. NJX cared about their teams. Matchfit only cares about the individual players.
1:39Wouldnt that depend on this spring's results and also next fall?
NJX is what happens when the team leader and the club leader know that they are not capable and they look for the life raft in the form of MF. MF is what happens when they read the above and know that they have the team and club by the shorties and can walk in and take over the team, the money and the decision making.
1:39 I haven't looked into it that much, will look at it later. For Starters:PA Classics regular season PAGS Champs lost a PLAYOFF andas such were runners up (I hate Playoffs). STA NYCSL NPL number 2 team because of a forfeit plus some really good results vs pre-ecnl teams WC, FSA & PDA.I will look at it later for the teams to see if anyone else should get a shot in my opinion.
Don't really see any F2 or F3 teams that have better or even comparable overall resumes at this point than those 3 vs F1 teams so how does your argument make sense.Maybe close to a .500 winning percentage vs the best of the best is above the level needed to be in the top 8 or top 12 at these events.Logically only half the teams at most who are playing in top flights can be over .500 winning percentage so that only leaves a very few teams who would qualify under your calculations. Your data is therefore incomplete without showing those percentages and gf and ga as well as ties vs the teams in F1 regularly for those who you consider on the bubble as well as the 3 mentioned. After all your formula would show winning percentage as the same for a team with 1 w 1 loss and 4 ties as for a team with 1 w and 0 ties 5 losses. giving the same credit for a loss as for a tie is illogical.A tie is a credible result vs F1 teams much more so than a loss.Certainly the flight coordinators are giving more weight to a tie than a loss in their deliberations.Your date is therefore flawed and incomplete for flighting purposes.
You are correct.What 1:25 is doing is called spinning.Massaging the numbers until you find a way to present them in a manner that will provide the illusion of the results you want.
STA vs Top Teams above .500,Still not sure how this team isbelow Ajax, NJ Crush and NYSC.1-2 vs East Meadow ECNL1-0 vs FSA ECNL0-0 vs PDA Storm3-2 vs WC ECNL
There is only 1 formula for winning %and .444 & .333 is under .500 that means the team does not win half their games. Call it spinning if you like if it makes you feel better. But there is only 1 formula for winning % and it has nothing do do with anything else. it's black and white either you won or you didn't is that spinning?
Is 4-1-4 a good mark vs top teams?That's .444
1:55"For Starters:PA Classics regular season PAGS Champs lost a PLAYOFF andas such were runners up (I hate Playoffs)."You are funny. Who has PA Classics even played let alone beat? PAGS? Come on , that is a terrible league.
1:55There is no such thing as a "PAGS regular season champion" at u-13. Only on PAC's website will you find such a made up title. The league is staggered so not all teams play each other in the regular season. PAC avoided games with PL & YMS, neither of whom they would likely have beaten. And truthfully, if not for the phenomenal play if their goalie, and 1 bad call by the ref, the championship game could have been 6-0. Add to that they are losing perhaps the best coach in the club for next year and I just don't see them as a D 1 team going forward.
207 you should consider working for the Federal Government. They can use data spinners like yourself.
Classics beat Cleveland FCTies with STA, Crush and BRYCSolid wins vs PA East clubs
Last time Ajax played Wildcats they won 3-1. STA has lost last 3 games against Wildcats2-02-03-1That's why Ajax is ahead of STA.Quality team just not a F1 team
2:12 .444 is under .500 not sure what else you want me to say. it is what it is a sub .500 winning % - are you telling me this is F1 worthy?2:14 I agree about PAGS, but does that mean their door stays closed and we continue giving teams like PF and Calvert with their .333 winning % a run in F1 when is enough enough and give a new team a shot? 2:19 so why would PAGS make a 12 team D1 if doesn't have a balanced schedule. Why not just do 10 and everyone plays 9 games. That's a little bit of amateur league it sounds like. Regardless - Playoffs are nothing more than a second chance after you failed the first time around (I hate playoffs).
depends on who u play, pal
2:29 the 2-0 results are 2 games or is it one game that counts as twice that's such a NJ thing. NJ Wildcats are .444 vs top teamsSTA is.625 vs top teamsSo instead of giving STA who has an above .500 record vs top teams a chance we continue running a sub .500 team vs top teams? go GERMANY 3-1 taking apart Marta and Brasil
STA is a bit new to the elite tourney partyLets see how they do this week.
2:48 just having some fun - I just put out F1 results of major tournaments and said 3 of the local teams are sub .500 and should not be F1. I have been accused of spinning winning % of top flights of majors to make these teams look bad. .444 & .333 is the same any way you try and list it. You played X amount of games and won Y amount of them. Simple math.Is STA new to elite party? I don't know they look like GS point chasers.Get Spring/fall points for NYCSL & EDP plus 10 tournaments. Is that elite? or did they just accumulate a bunch of points because they had more opportunities than everyone else. But when you see that they beat FSA and WC ECNL teams plus tie PDA ECNL only to lose by 1 to EM ECNL team. How do you not give them a shot - F3, really because PDA Ajax beat NJ Wildcats who beat them. If we were going to play that game why aren't Dragons in F2 and Ajax in F3? Didn't Dragons beat Ajax straight up? Didn't Dragons finish ahead of them in the standings? Dragons are not F1 ready they have played no one but F2 why not they beat Ajax this year? YMS beat PL 3-1 and lost 3-5 to PL outside of that haven't played anyone really but why not F2 chance? They showed they can hang with a F1 team scoring 6 goals against them.How do teams move up if you don't allow them by running the same sub.500 teams?I will drop this and give you the last word.
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2:45. 2 different games on two different days
I think you are talking to yourself 3:15
12:14..wish we could all move to fair weather states to train outside all year round!! Sounds like the ticket to me.
3:30 Yeah looks that way. I may have got everyone to dizzy with all my spinning
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