Looks like a couple of grudge matches this weekend.1 -Pda Storm vs Match Fit in ECNL.2 -Wildcats Galaxy vs NJCSA Elite in NJCS.
I dare you to find a more balanced league than Pags 1st Division Penn United 3 wins 1 loss 1 tiePa Classics 3 wins 1 loss YMS Banshees 3 wins 1 lossWarrington 3 wins 3 lossesFC Revs 2 wins 1 loss 2 tiesHMMS Eagle 2 wins 2 losses 1 tieHulmville 1 win 1 loss 4 tiesLDC United 2 wins 2 losses SCPASA 1 win 4 losses 1 tiePA Rush 0 wins 5 losses 1 tieObviously a high level league that is very competitive
Don't really see it as a Grudge Match for Wildcats Galaxy vs Elite. Galaxy is the higher seated team. They are number one, they should win.
Very nice words from pl parent bought boca. It is an awesome team with good core and different weapons. When clicking we are good for sure. We are all learning quickly in this division and the girls are challenged. We have played NJCSA twice. They are a great team.
6:51High level? You're kidding right?
Maybe it's me, but I don't think the NJCSA Futsal girl should be playing, I mean are Futsal players allowed on the big field??
6:51 should attend an ECNL game. Try PDA vs Matchfit this weekend. You may change your thinking.
Two F1 teams in that league and YMS beat PL last spring. Those three teams are being challenged every week and have taken losses or ties from teams under them.
Yes, and stay near the MF parents, and you can see an episode of Modern Family without turning the on a T.V.
7:22 How about getting PDA or Matchfit to step into a tournament outside their safety zone and stop worrying about getting beat by a non-ecnl team? Funny how the other ECNL teams have no problem with doing so.
Matchfit ECNL is playing Bethesda actually
You will not see Storm outside ECNL again.They disappointed just about every time they did and club will not allow them to sully the brand anymore than they already have.
7:22 Match Fit NPL v PDA NPL are playing... probably 2 of the best non ECNL teams in the area.. IMO both teams are clearly better than any team on GS top 5.
They were last year. Nothing this year from those two teams should change that.
8:31 Both teams have taken big steps forward over last year... the only thing standing in either team's way is probably each other.
6:51 - LOL7:16 - you can't reason with stupid7:22 - 6:51 would think their daughters team could compete with PDA or Matchfit when in reality most of us know their daughters team couldn't beat the NPL teams 7:24 - their are f1 teams because more top teams are opting not to plat in as many tournaments they are playing in showcases instead.
True. ECNL doesn't focus on GS tournaments, they don't care about those. They focus on the league and showcases.
8:28 if you believe that those two NPL teams can beat teams like BRYC, PL or 1776 or similar teams, you truly are a stupid man. I believe those NPL teams are good teams, but now your sounding just like the Penn Fusion NPL parent.
I think they are on par with teams like PL and BRYC. 1776? Seriously?
So you are saying that those NPL teams could hang with South Shore, Breakers FCV. BRYC took FCV all the way to PK's. Think about what you are saying.
Didn't BRYC tie PDA Ajax? And they didn't beat FCV or South Shore. And they only tied Calvert. Need I say more?
Although they beat PL. So I say yes the PDA and MF NPL teams can hang with them.
Totally different BRYC team now and you need to say no more. The fact that you only tied Calvert (who PL just crushed 5-0) says all I need to hear. I do believe your teams would do well against many higher GS soccer teams, just not the ones (1776 included) that end up being F1 in tournaments. Please don't bring Ajax up again, how they do last time they showed up in F2. Although they do decent when they enter as the Ajax, but add better players and become the Stajax.
So the BRYC team that tied Calverts at Spirit is a different team?
In Calvert defense PL guy said they were out several players. Don't think that score is an accurate view. They aren't that bad.
And I am pretty sure that the poster who mentioned PDA NPL wasn't referring to AJAX.
I am still trying to figure out why BRYC and PL deserve a ranking above any NPL team?
I know he wasn't. But it was so much fun screwing with him.
MF NPL is a completely different team then the NE-NPL Team that won USClub state cup last spring.That MF Team was the old NJX Celtic Team and they are no more.the 9-10 top players from that Celtic team all went to MF ECNL Team.This MF NPL Team is the old MF Black/Jaguars Team with a few of the bottom players from the Celtic team who didn't make ECNL Team this fall and which has never won anything of note whether league, state cup or tournament so please don't insult our intelligence saying this current MF NPL was one of the best teams last year and no reason that shouldn't continue.Not the same team, not the same players, not even close.This type of dishonesty is exactly why MF has so little respect.
11:34 Gee. All them NPL teams are better, who knew. Some statements make people look dumb. That was you
11:39 How dare you come on here with logic and facts.
11:39 put down the bottle and call it a night.
11:39 - The post stated that today's PDA Dragons and MF NPL NE are on a different level that the rest of the non ECNL teams. I tend to agree with him/her. No matter how they were formed. And who cares how they were formed? I also don't think either team would lose to any of the teams with more GS points than these two teams currently have.
I really hope we are just talking about NJ teams here, Galaxy, Wildcats, STA. You don't really think even the top teams in that "B" league could match up against the top non ecnl teams from around the rest of the region do you?
I admit, you made me look it up, and I agree, the Dragons and MF NE NPL are tops in NJ. However, regionally (which should always be the method for ranking) they would be hard-pressed for total success, but would be very competitive.Anyone news on Bethesda?
During the game this past weekend, I was very surprised to see how many parents of the other team, were curious of our roster-size, playing time, and practice venues. We are not exactly lighting-it-up right now, but there were still questions.
NYCSL NPL teams, six of them, can play on an even level with top 3 NE NPL clubs out of NJIt's a pretty well balanced division if looking at just NY/NJ
Well 7:00 the point is Dragons have some quality wins and results in hand to make that argument, while MD NPL has not any wins or results this fall to back up that claim.Try and beat a few of the teams you claim to be "on a different level from".At this point you have only 1 sided losses to them.
7:56 of course they can.
You are delusional.
MF NPL played well in F1 at Stars of Mass. This tournament was stacked with great teams from the region. MF NPL is undefeated in league play. Based on U14 results, MF NPL resume good enough to be considered a top team in region.
Do any of you that have daughters playing school ball and club ball at the same time, find that your child looks like the walking wounded? Only two games left in my daughters middle school season, but wish it was over now. One of the schools in our area have made it mandatory that sports can only be four out of the five days, I love this idea. Does NJ or NY have something similar to this?PL Parent
1035 Personally Middle School Soccer is pointless why bother with the over use of the body for something non-meaningful if you did it for school social activities should had your daughter sign up for other after school things. Your risking fatigue and injury on her and with 2 games left I would pull her out.
Oh my god already!!! These girls on not on the Womens' National Team.It is idiotic to not let a middle school child play school ball. The experience last 6 weeks tops and the memories last a lifetime. Do you really think that your daughter is going to remember that club game against the high GS point team she played on a random Sunday, or is she going to remember riding the bus with all her friends she grew up and having a team picture in the yearbook??? If your little Sally is run down, then sit out a school practice or game, but to speak like your daughter is Carli Lloyd and has to "save herself" for the next big game. Ridiculous!! Wake up already!!!It's also Flu season. Better keep her away from people so she doesn't risk being sick for the next big club game.
11:00 AM.Perfectly stated.
I echo that 1100 - PERFECTLY stated.
Is the argument that 1776 is a Top NON-ECNL team and MF NPL and PDA North are not at this level? Below are some results. Where is the Quality win? They have wins vs teams they should beat.1776 UNITED FC XTREME 1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER5:2 PIPELINE BLACK1:1 BETHESDA STORM 012;1 HFC READY '011:0 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA0:1 PENN UNITED FORCE '012:2 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT1:1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX1;1 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE1:3 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE
Please I agree with PL guy I'm assuming she is in 8th grade if so it is pointless to play middle school if she is playing with or against 6th/7th graders. 1100 I don't remember one team bus ride during my middle school days sorry maybe you have a fonder memory on a middle school team bus ride. HS team I remember story. Like the previous blogger stated if your looking for school memories do other after school activities do not risk the injury if you are playing high level competitive soccer and spending thousands of dollars our Little Sally.
11:29Wouldn't want to damage that expensive sports car by driving it in the rain, huh? Get a grip. They are young girls and like to play soccer WITH their school friends who can't make the same club team.Who cares what you remember?
MF NPL beat Albertson ecnl by 1 goal(same as YMS a mid level Pags team) beat Ramapo(who) by 1 and got smacked 3-0 by a mid level FC Stars ecnl team. You consider that doing well, ok fine. They are undefeated in a weak league, so what. The best team in NE NPL might be as good as a mid level pags team. The top 12 reg 1 non ecnl teams wouldn't even break a sweat.
11:00.I think school soccer has its merits, but you must be careful. if your daughter is extremely serious about this game and she trains and plays against the best competition during the year, You need to understand that those who are not as skilled will try and play another way to equal the playing field. If you see that the games are more brawn than skill then you are taking needless chances with your daughters dreams just to play a few middle school games.I am neutral on the matter but I have cringed many times watching the action on the field.Soccer Nut
My daughter did not play middle school ball this year. She has had zero regrets. I am glad she did not play due to it all being too much on her body. If a kid wants to play then they play. To each their own. Leave it at that.
11:47 let's validate your statement - who are these top teams in the region?your order not random order
What the Soccer Nut just stated is exactly what happens when my daughter is on the field. She is surrounded by 3 to 4 players even when the other team is losing. And girls of lesser skill will tend to foul when frustrated. But she wants to play school ball and I would not take that wish away, especially since it has taught her that one player does not always change the fortunes of a team. What concerns me more are the simple overuse injuries that pile up and can lead to a big injury. That is why I put that out there about Hempfield High School reducing play to four days a week (love that rule). It seems that every club parent I talk to has at least 3 to 4 girls out at this time. We just got one back Sunday against Calvert, but lost another one to bruised ribs on Friday in school ball. I sure you teams are suffering from a similar fate. Only two games left this week, the last one will bring a smile to my face.PL Parent
I would like to see 11:47's top 10 or 15 teams in the region. This will be an interesting list. I have a feeling it could be a little biased.
11:29You don't remember one team bus ride because you were not on the team. You were home making sure you were not over using your legs.
PAGs guy- Didn't Penn Fusion NPL win their Spirit flight with several of your PAGs team in it?MF NPL beat Penn Fusion NPL 3-1 this year.
Hey 12:30. No knocking the chess club
but hey, they get to be star every game!! That's worth those injuries! smh
12:57 you missed the point completely
No I didn't.
The more skilled players tend to be just as dirty as the "lesser high school player" (a silly term, yes - but this is the view of some on this board)If anything look at tiding up officiating at the HS level. More whistles, please - and more cautions surely needed.
Great topic about the middle school ball. Most on our team play, one or two do track, but majority play middle school ball. Out of the 5 ODP players 4 play with the school (please, I am not starting an ODP debate). Most of them started in 6th grade, so this is the swan song, can they be conference champions, undefeated? All the girls parents tell me how they love it, plus my daughter just loves it. They feel more comfortable, not so much pressure, also the one my daughter is on loves the coach, his thing is soccer. It is funny because she is playing against her EDP team mates in school matches, making it even better. And sure they are stars, start and finish the whole game and make a difference. My daughter walked off the front step one time and broke her ankle after coming home from FC Delco couple years back, she was fine all weekend at Delco, came home on Memorial day and broke her ankle on front step. That is how I sum it up, it is what it is, if they want to play, insist on it, I am ok with the risk at this young age. when she has a million dollar contract can re-evaluate. Soccer nut does this make more sense?
118 That's HS we are talking about Middle School and 1230 I wish I had the club ball environment when I this age and as those middle school team bus rides really I'm sure you remember them fondly because that's when you were an all-star for your local middle school days now your sitting here on a blog trying to live your dreams through your daughter. As I'm just providing her a direction and ability to hopefully fulfill her dreams.
Pags is a joke, give it a break already
Middle school soccer is simply for fun. My daughter plays out of position half of the time but has fun. She doesn't care if it's good soccer or not
and that's what makes our kids different players.
Your daughter must be a lot of fun to be around. My daughter is very competitive and is all about winning and improving her game with her club team. So what's wrong with her having a little fun for a month or so with school soccer?
You will all be having a tuff decision to make in a year or so when Girls DA is announce and for those are forced to not play Middle or HS soccer. So let's be fair Boys do it so how do you respond to a kid that plays for LA Galaxy or Seattle Sounders DA and he doesn't play HS I bet those parents aren't losing any sleep that their child isn't having fun their child is not playing middle school. If you are trying to keep your daughter from injuring herself or wear and tear on a body then as a parent you are just helping her by choice. Again this is middle school soccer we are talking about please move on.
THANK YOU! Yes please move on from the ridiculous debate over middle school ball. You want your kid to play, awesome.
So MF NPL 0-3 loss to Stars of Mass at recent Stars of Mass Tournament establishes them as a top team in region 1?
Where is there any factual information pointing to girls actually getting a DA next year? It seems like a lot of speculation but nothing to back it up.
when there is a girls DA and my daughter is playing 'at the highest developmental level' for free, and they say no H.S. soccer, then we listen. That is an entirely different conversation than the one that is going on here. My daughter plays MS soccer because her best friends in school play and want her to play with them. she has had a blast and for the most part has remained injury free for the past 3 years. However, to minimize the chance of injury and overuse, my daughter does not go to all the school practices or games. she listens to her body and knows when it is time to take a break. since her priority is to her club team, which was made very clear to the coach day 1 of 6th grade, r&r is always in place of MS practice/games . she is also very smart and aware and will make every effort to avoid rough, uncontrolled play during a MS game. let's not discount the fact that our girls are no longer little kids, but are now intelligent young women that can think and reason for themselves.
Just like there was speculation about Calendar shift for years then it was announced a several months ago same suite goes with Girls DA. Now that the calendar year is taking place it will be an easy to transition for those clubs to move to DA system if selected as it will counter ECNL US Club system. Look they just moved the boys down to U12 Pre-Academy so I'm sure something is sure to follow. If it's free like many boys DA it will be fantastic and the under privilege that can't do your those special country club style Soccer teams will benefit.
Lol, you only pick the Stars of Mass game to use. Stars of Mass ECNL a very good team that also beat PDA Storm. The discussion was about best non ECNL teams in the region. I guess your desperate attempt means I am right about your weak PAGS league. Penn Fusion NPL and MF NPL would both do very well in that league.
To the person that knocked the NorthEast Girls NPL - can we please see your list so we can validate your claim or shoot holes in it. Very easy. NO? Like I said don't make it random - make it YOUR list your order.
There's no such thing as a 1-10 order, top teams can beat other top teams at any time. But if you insist on a list of top reg 1 non ecnl teams here goes. Start with NEFC because no one will argue, add South Shore who beat them twice, FC Frederick who beat SS, PL who beat FC Frederick, BRYC who beat PL, which brings us full circle back to SS who beat BRYC. See what I am saying about the futility of making an order? Anyway add to those in no order Oakwood, Seacoast(3-1 over PDA Dragons), Greater Binghampton, PA Classics(3-0 over PDA Ajax), No team in NE NPL is on the same level. B league B teams, comparable to Pags, weak.Ok have at it!
I don't have the time to go through all your teams but using your own argument of top teams can beat other top teams at any time. I will pick on PA Classics form historical record not much of a difference between the two. So what does that make PAC if they are equal to a B team? PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 013:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX2:2 NEW YORK SC G01 3:1 CFC ARSENAL SKY (NPL)0:5 GRAND RAPIDS CREW JUNIORS 02 PREMIER GOLD3:1 CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURUGNDY PDA North Dragons1:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX0:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX1:1 NEW YORK SC G011:2 CFC ARSENAL SKY (NPL)2:1 CFC NPL2:2 CFC NPL3:5 GRAND RAPIDS CREW JUNIORS 02 PREMIER GOLD1:1 CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURUGNDY
PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F142;1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL4;2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL2;2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH1:1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH1:3 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS3:2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXPDA North Dragons1:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX0:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX0:4 NEFC1:0 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE2:3 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX1:4 JFC STORM 01/02PDA North Dragons1:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX0:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX2:2 JFC STORM 01/02
So.....2:26Your daughter's middle school coach plays her when she shows up - over girls that attend every practice and game?How nice.
There you go this B team in a B league has similar results to those teams you mentioned. Going back to your own argument of top teams can beat other top teams at any time. What about this B team - no head to head but using common opponents i say your B team PDA Dragons would be a top team? Of course you will disagree.
PS. if you are looking to play them - I'm sure they will be atPDA SPRING KICKOFFand the PDA GIRLS COLLEGE SHOWCASEGo for yours.
4:49 of course she wants to play with friends forget the friends that practice with friends they will always be reminded they are rec players because club players want to play with friends. it's a ME world.
You Parents should listen to yourselves. You make the game of soccer so complicated for these girls. All they wanna do is play and have fun. They will make friendships that will last forever. No all your little princesses will be soccer pro's is a matter of fact the odds are very well against them. So just let them be girls. Let them have fun.
I dont know one parent that wants their kid to be a pro player.Of course this does not preclude the child from wanting/attempting to do so.
When I posted this morning about MS ball. It was more about the complications from overuse injuries and the frequency of it happening. The one poster said something about the coach letting his daughter pick her days off. We asked our coach about something like that and he said it wouldn't be fair to the other players that are there everyday. By this next Sunday my daughter will have played six games (two premier) and participated in three practices in nine days. But we can't bitch, because this is what my daughter has chosen. Once you make a commitment to a team, I believe you have to see it through. It is great to see all the different opinions though. I don't think any of them are wrong, each parent on here knows their own daughters abilities and by this age, when she's hurting mentally and physically.PL Parent
Region I Champions League Fall tournament is a joke. Perfect Touch seem to have imploded and forfeit their games and Binghampton look to have forfeited at least 2 games.FCV had to travel to Pittsburgh for 1 game as Binghampton pulled out of the game at the last minute.Seriously, youth soccer bosses need to take a good long hard look at themselves.
Is it any surprise that GB pulled out at the last minute? Might be one of the most classless clubs in region one.
Region 1 Top Fifteen 1. NEFC2. FC Virginia3. South Shore4. Boston Breakers5. PDA6. Match Fit7. BRYC8. Penn Fusion9. NJ Wildcats10. Penn Legacy11. Stars of Mass12. Penn United13. PA Classics14. 177615. Galaxy (NJ)I looked at this as if it was a fifteen team tournament and this would be the order of finish on Sunday.
With the exception of the top 2 that list is very screwed up.
Top 12 about right except Stars of Mass needs to switch with NJ Wildcats.
9:11 Of course with the talent level of the top five teams, that group could move up and down. I think its fairly accurate. Wildcats might be to high, especially with them losing to PL the last couple times. Was hard to list PF over PL, but Fusion's overall schedule was hard to ignore.
Top 15 list obviously done by a PA fan. The NJ teams on the list other than the PDA and MF ECNL teams wouldn't be in the top 5 in NJ. Please!
7:57 LOL, I guess you didn't see 4:47 post. How can you possibly have Wildcats anywhere on that list?
MF NPL 3-0 loss to FC Stars, is only a partial story. Game was 0-0 with out 10 mins left. MF gave up a goal, missed a PK 1 minute later to tie. gave up 2 very late goals trying to tie game. Personally game was closer than score indicates
No love for PA teams, their all at the bottom of the list.
Shouldn't even be on the list.
Hard to compare ECNL teams with non ECNL period. Schedules are at a much different (higher) level on a week to week basis (FC Bucks your exception).
10:10 For the most part, most of the people that blog on here try to stay somewhat neutral and some try look at the topics in a rational way. By doing so, it shows a certain level of intelligence. Your post that no PA teams belong on the list just shows your ignorance, and the fact that if this list was a top 50, your daughters team might still not be on it. Very sorry your daughters team got blasted by a PA team and probably many NJ and NY teams also. Your low brow post reminds me of a certain Mr. Creepy that puts similar post out.
I think that is why most ECNL teams are at the top of the list. I do think there are a couple NY teams missing and PL needs to be above PF and Wildcats, since both have taken big losses from them.
I stand by my comment. On a top 15 list other than PL and PF I don't see another PA team making the list.
Please stop referencing back to game outcomes from over a year ago.
Big losses??? 2-1 is a big loss? That's what Wildcats lost to PL by just 2 months ago!
Any PA fan who puts Wikdcats on the list is just trying to justify why the PA teams are on the list. Wildcats haven't beat anyone in the last year.
Its funny how one mans list can get thinks going. Does it really matter after the top 5 or 6? Since the Wildcat fan was upset by the post that they should be below PL, can you let us know who the Wildcats have beaten in the last two or three months? Lord knows they got pasted at Spirit. I didn't notice, but did they win the last F2 flight they were in?
PF did destroy Wildcats 5-0 recently. They easily have the most competitive schedule. PL is a solid team but appear very inconsistent. PAC hasn't done anything impressive other than the fact that they were able to hang with South Shore at Spirit by a goal. The league they play in is weak. 1776 is not impressive at all. Penn United hasn't earned right yet, just haven't done enough and again a very weak league.
Ok. I heading to bed but have to ask about PL being inconsistent. Their only loss at both Spirit and Wags was to the team that not only went to the finals, but both teams lost in the finals during PK playoff. So it might be safe to say PL's was in the better bracket of F1. Our losses have been one goal losses to the ECNL teams that are at the top of the list (FCV, BB and SS). Our 3-1 loss to NEFC was the only time where our girls were simply outplayed. Sorry to bitch and split hairs with you, but these girls have been in every game and they have played against some great ECNL teams. PLus the have a habit of beating the teams they are suppose to. Not saying we should be higher on that list, but don't say we shouldn't be there at all. Have a good night guysPL Parent
More importantly who have they beaten at U13 or 14?
U13 year is irrelevant. We are 3 months into U14.
11:05While you say that PF "destroyed" the Wildcats at Spirit that game may not be the best assessment of the two teams. While the Wildcats we on their second game in the heat with only 13 girl)thats on their coach), PF had 18 incl 2 girls normally rostered with their 15's(i.e guest players) Wildcats looked spent from the opening kickoff but neither team looked impressive. Far too few passes strung together, too many long balls to no one, etc. PF capitalized on their scoring opportunities, Wildcats didn't. but neither squad looked impressive at all.
Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself with a lack of knowledge. Take it on the chin, move on.
Fairly sure 7:26 is actually not a Wildcat parent but rather someone that was hoping to see PF fail that game. Regardless i agree with the lack of knowledge part. Comical post though!
Trying to make a case that the Dragons are relevant in a conversation about the best teams in the region using 15 month old results is funny. Sure if you compare last years record vs. PA Classics the teams look similar but its not last year. PAC lost none of their top players and added depth to their bench while Dragon(at least according to this blog) lost 4 players incl their goalie) Even if thats not true just compare this falls results, Dragon played 1 tourn where they tied a marginal team at best, beat a rec team 4-2, and got beat 3-0 by FC Stars(but I know you outplayed them right?) In league play they have similar results to Ajax having an almost identical GD against common opponents. PAC smacked Ajax 3-0 at Spirit and would likely do the same to the Dragons given the opportunity. Between PAGS and NE NPL PAC is the only team i felt was worth mentioning among top teams, and even they would be at the very bottom. The rest of the teams in both leagues are mid level F2 at best. Both leagues are weak but at least those playing PAGS seem to know it. The NE NPL fans here are just simply delusional if they think they are playing quality teams each weekend. Actually, in a matchup of 1-11 vs 1-11 I'd bet PAGS would win 8 games but thats not saying much either.
Slow, uncreative, uninspired soccer. I stand by my assessment. PF is supposed to be a highly technical upper level encl. team and the wildcats a bully ball playing long ball kicking team with little skill but you would have been hard pressed to tell them apart if not for the names on the jerseys. And you know I'm right about those rosters, so feel free to tell me where my other "knowledge" is lacking.
Love it!! From now on any time my kids team loses a match by a landslide my excuse will be "but that game was not the best assessment."
PA teams are the kick-push-and run masters, good job Pennsylvania!
They had no trouble dominating Rage (5-0) that very same weekend? They had no problem playing a very tight match with PL (1-2) again that same weekend? Hmm..
7:48 opportunity - PDA has two high profile tournaments - go for yours. No need to make a case for Dragons just showed you the results were even. They proved last year that they were the top NON-ECNL New Jersey team and started off their NPL season better than they did last season. How is PAC doing in PAGS? Don't answer that as i already looked it up.For real - PAC top team? Since you called out Dragons Tournament results let'stalk about PAC and those great results. Let me guess the below 3 teams are rock solid and are region1 top 15 right? For real?0:2 PENN UTD FORCE FC '010:0 HULMEVILLE Dynamo0:1 NORTH UNION UNITED 01F WAVE
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PS. Since PL and Dragons both lost players according to this board and since your assumption is that Dragons didn't add we will make the same assumption for PL. Both Beat NJ Wildcats and PDA Ajax solid teams while both dropped a game to NEFC.BRYC on the other hand couldn't beat Ajax while Dragons could and Bryc got smoked by the same JFC that the Dragons tied at the NPL finals. Dragons played at a National Event and made Semi-Finals -FC Fred passed on their National EventHow quickly we want to dismiss a team that played at a National Event as falling from grace. Like I said PDA has two events in the Spring I'm sure you can find Dragons at at least one of them. Thir flight last season FC Stars West, MF NPL (NJX), STA, NYSC, SouthShore, WC ENCL and PDA Ajax of course if you think your team can do better like i said go for yours.
8:23Again looking at THIS years league results Ajax and Dragons about even. PAC smoked Ajax. Penn U beat them and won Discovery, Huhmville tied them and was a finalist at WAGS. Not F1 teams but yes solid squads, better than anyone Dragons have faced this year in their rec league oR tournaments except FCStars who beat them 3-0. And really stop posting last years results a lot has changed since then.
8:00Do you play many teams from Mass?
8:08You're making my point. In the early games Wildcats beat Rage 5-0 while PF only won 2-0. From the early results you would think it would have at least been a good game. But it appears wildcats expended all their energy running up the score and had nothing left. And while PF brought guest players Wildcats only brought 2/3 of a team. Going to make a big difference in a hot afternoon. No doubt PF is the better squad but they aren't 5 goals better. I just expected better soccer from 2 teams that are supposed to be very good and was disappointed, sorry. I'm sure they both played better the next morning after a good night ms rest.
9:04 You need to stop trying to defend a horrible loss. I was at that game and you guys were lucky the score wasn't 3-0 at halftime. When you lose 5-0, there are no excuses. It just makes you look like a fool. Lets face it, every time your team try's to step up and play a good team, they just don't do well. No insult there, its just time to step back and play some lesser talented teams.
I see breaking teams down by Tiers 1,2,3 kinda like GS method on ranking them Diamond, Premier vs the points people should look at that instead. But any given weekend those teams can beat or be beaten. Also the game is played at this level with coaching tactics and better matchups. If your team plays another team more often a coach will realize what works and what doesn't. Sometimes 2-30 minutes halves at a tournament is not enough time adjust your team's setup. I guarantee if many of those top teams in NJ/PA played NEFC/South Shore more often I'm sure coaches would find advantages and games could be won or be closer. With so many leagues, league separation many of these teams only see each other once a year at a tourney and you cannot judge the one game on what level that team truly is.
Wildcats Averbuck continues on with the excuses. So whenever they lose its one of --- meaningless game we played our subs, field was wet couldn't pass the ball, other team had guest player who scored all the goals, we were tired, heat, game started too early, game started too late, long road trip although I think that was used that for a game they actually won somewhere & so on. Don't forget somehow ties there always count as wins too. Well how about last Spring's State Cup & just few weeks ago getting eliminated by a much lesser ranked team? How about WAGS not getting out of second bracket while Galaxy your 'A' team won it all? & yet the parents there keep on buying & buying & buying.
Not getting out of the second bracket at Wags is probably a bigger definition of where you are as a team. Either a formation is not working or the abilities of the players are not put in the best position to succeed. I don't think the Wildcats physical abilities can ever be called into question, we have played them and the have both size and speed. Sometimes a team can become fractured and not play for each other, could that be it?
8:33 what exactly has changed?
9:04 you are the perfect example of ignorance. Worry about your kids teams. There's plenty to worry about there.
@904.....So you only had 2/3 of your team, where was the other 1/3? Expended all their energy on a hot afternoon while running up the score in an earlier game, really? & PF did not have any guest players, not one. Like someone else said, take it on the chin & move on. You lost 5-0.
9:04 Accusing PF of using guest players after a 5-0 loss? A third of your team missing? Girls tired from the first game? Wet fields? Bad refs? Is there anyplace left to lay blame? By the way, PF did not have any guest players playing in that game. Why would you even use that excuse if you were not a one hundred percent sure?
OMG Spirit tourney was a pre-season I'm sure many teams have made adjustments can't wait till Bethesda. Ok instead of ranking teams let's rank leagues in the region as I feel the stronger the league player the better the overall teams that come out of it for tournaments.
11:39 I agree Spirit was pre-season as was FC Stars for some teams. However, for some teams these tournaments are all they have to hang their hats on. let's look at all the EDP/PAGS teams what are they playing in this Fall for? Seriously? What is the reward for winning EDP/PAGS? Yup nothing. So they go to the 'major" tournaments and hope that their our college scouts there to watch their kids.Then we have the NPL teams playing NPL games in the fall Spirit and Stars are nothing more than high quality warm ups to their regular season as there is a prize for being number#1 The teams advance to a National Tournament the same way the 1st group of teams from EDP/PAGS use NCS to advance to regional/National events. So we can call a league a "B league" or a "weak" league but you still have to win and advance. For the board gurus What does PAC, BRYC, FC fed, PL & SSS have to gain by winning their leagues? SO they play the tournaments as their"Big Prize" events, am I wrong?Do you think NYSC cares about Stars tournament the same way SSS does? or Do you think NYSC has their eyes set on the NPL League title?
11:52That was quite a rant. I am glad you feel comfortable in you league and see it as money well spent. So what do think happens to all the better players playing in Eastern PA that do no play in NPL leagues? Do you just assume they never get looked at and offered nothing (I assume you do). Thank you for letting me know there is no reason for my daughter to continue on. I will also inform Legacy and let them know its time to shut down. Also will have to let the U18 player know that the full ride she is going to receive from Delaware is probably going to go to your daughter. How did they ever find her anyway? Some college official must have thought your daughter's team was going to be there. By the way, what team is that?PL parent
PL the point of the post was not that they won't play college ball. The need those majors for that reason, SIMPLE. I think you agree with statement. But the fact is that EDP/PAGS do not advance their winner to anything beyond EDP/PAGS, is this false? This has nothing to do with players moving on to college. My bad English is not first language so yes somethings don't come out the way I want them to.When i read people putting down a league that sends their winner to a national tournament well I have a beef with that - just as I posted in favor of Super Y I will stand up for NPL. You can not argue with a Champions league format can you? because it sounds like you are? This is not a champions league within a league, these are the champions from 19 different leagues playing each other. Do I care that PL isn't in one, do you really believe I think they have no chance if they don't play NPL?All I am saying is that NPL/ECNL teams do not play in these tournaments (Aug, Sept, Feb, March) for anything more than HIGH QUALITY warm ups yes they play to win just like any game but they don't value these games the same as their NPL/ECNL league games. No rant there, just a fact.
PS. of course if your team doesn't play in a league that advances it's winner you don't get it.Just look at it as NCS, why does PL play NCS is a NCS game more important than EDP or Spirit? I would bet yes, why? because you advance to regional event same as NPL, no difference. PL values NCS, Tournaments, EDPPAC values NCS, Tournaments, EDPBRYC values NCS, Tournaments, EDPNYSC values NPL, tournamentsDragons/Ajax value NPL, tournamentsAs you can see no difference here, just keep it in context.PL parent would you rather your kid win NCS or Jefferson? Them playing in college is a given.NPL teams would rather win NPL than Stars
DE seriously? The top ECNL kids are shooting way higher than that. If your kid is really that good better call TM. Your world needs to expand.
12:55 I am not arguing with you over the validity of your league or how it can lead to a "National Championship Tournament". But you are basically saying that girls that do no play in your superior league and do not have a chance to attend a "National Championship Tournament", are wasting their time. My question to you. How are these girls that are wasting their time playing Pags and EDP type leagues still finding college recruiters contacting them and offering college dollars (because they are)? Sorry if I came off a little personal in my last post, but I have been in the travel sports game a long time and seen about every money grab there is. I have posted on here that I do agree that ECNL has its advantages and gives its better players a distinct advantage in the recruitment system. But in your post it seemed you took a broad brush and started painting one picture, when in fact there are many. Let me ask you a question. Do you really believe that if your daughter traveled to San Diego or Seattle to a tournament at U14, do you believe that some college coach from the West coach is looking at her and saying "I got to have that girl"? Think about how strong soccer is from California into Texas before you answer that. Also think about how many great colleges there are in the east coast that would be great to have your daughter attend.I respect your opinion here, so please give me a good answer.PL Parent
A quick look over PF's commitments over the last couple years, shows a number of girls going to DE. What's your problem? Also many going to Marshall, F&M, e town, Penn state branches and a number of state schools like west Chester, millersville and ship, kutztown etc. all places our 97's and 98's are also committed to right now. Yep no one from PL is going to unc or UVA, but I bet your daughter isn't either. Oh and our cost for a whole year incl 6 tournaments, travel, uniforms, summer/winter training, futsol etc etc. is less than I hear PF is spending for 1 national trip this spring. Is it really worth it?
Good question PL. I heard somewhere that 90% of these girls will play college ball within 100 miles of home.
Sorry to say but look at the numbers let's say the previous Top 15 teams poster and say on average each team has 18 girls per team. That's 270 girls playing U14 right now, based on statistics only 9.1% will play college. That's only 24-26 players from those Top 15 teams. Come on people let's enjoy their last few years of playing the game before they hit that peak and say mom and dad, "I had enough I'm not going to play soccer this year"
1:10 You would seriously trash a full scholarship. I feel very sorry for you daughter and the disappointment that may come her way. I wanted to say you are arrogant, but your obviously just a fool. I hope your daughter fulfills her dreams and ignores yours.
1:50Well like most things in life you get what you pay for. I'm sure that discount training is AMAZING. Worry about your wallet not mine.
1152 EDP league has an NPL division that clubs will need to apply to get in they are crossover games between the Non-NPL teams in EDP league. So the winner of EDP's NPL division advances to regionals and nationals as well. Northeast NPL is not the only NPL league series in the region. So your Rant is way off but either way keep drinking the Red/Grey/White kool aid.
Thanks for the numbers 2:01. But lets be generous and say 15 percent of the top 15 teams make it. And only ECNL teams, because non ecnl teams have no shot according to the previous poster (one wouldn't even accept a full schoolarship). Without doing any math here, how small a group is that? These are 14 year old young ladies playing soccer at the best level their parent can either afford, make time for, or know the existence of. Its great to talk smack on here, but I like to think most of us know very few are getting that magical full ride. I'd like to think that the simple fact that my kid may have it much easier than I did, is the greatest reward. Good luck at the "National Tournament Championship". May there be 50 or 60 college coaches leaving messages on your phone when you get home.
All non-ECNL teams are "B" teams. Stop fool out yourselves.
222 I got the 9.1% from this link previous posted several months ago. 9.1% is the number found in statistics at the end of 2014. This link also give an idea by each college of % of scholarship given as well. http://www.scholarshipstats.com/varsityodds.htmlhttp://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
2:14 no one is worried about you or your wallet. Just your poor daughters mental health and how happy she'll be once she gets away from you. She probably does enjoy her training though, simply because its a sane adult in her life for a little while
2:19Where does 11:52 even indicate what club they are from?? Did I miss it? Seems like you have a chip on your shoulder.
242 It's seems like a PF player as the all the other bloggers pointed out DE university recruits and mentioned the club's DOC initials "TM"
2:30Might want to tell NEFC that!
The fact that TM & his staff know our players and would replace half his roster with them tomorrow tells you exactly what our "discount training" is buying. Oh, you thought those were the only 3 offered spots? Free tuition? Starting lineup? ID recommendation? Ha ha ha, wait till tryouts next year! Never mind , they won't even have to try out.
It's great you are happy with your club and all you are offered there. I'm sure all players will stay next year.
1:45 where do i say they are wasting their time? All I'm saying is that the league doesn't advance a winner.As far as your question goes travel to San Diego or Seattle in July is a vacation. My kid would play her soccer in addition to a few days of vacation.If she like a school out West they would know of her interest, and her participation in this event if they would want to come and watch her same goes for any other tournament - how I got dragged into a college conversation is beyond me. All i said was EDP/PAGS does not advance to a National Championship while the NPLs/ECNL/SuperY's do and the teams that participate in these leagues view tournaments a little different than a EDP/PAGS team.
2:19 I never Said EDP NPL did I? I said EDP and only 10 of the EDP clubs have this opportunity.
PS last time I checked EDP NPL is a NPL league not part of EDP even though they use crossover games and play only 4 games
Accepted, 2:30What else you got?
301 What are trying to say are outside players already picked for next year's PF team?
2:19 what makes you think you know me and what I drink? If you know what IS 93 is and the pick up games we had back in the days then you know exactly who i am and what I drink and it ain't Kool aide brother.
No 3:30. 3:01 THINKS they know things. It best to just let them keep thinking...
Hey 3:30, they were picked before tryouts this year weren't they?3:53 just because you're not privy...Go ahead, tell me every girl who showed up at tryouts had a real chance of making the team. If YOU know anything you know the answer. Which makes me wonder how much the NPL team is paying? Are they "getting what they pay for"? When girls are coming from clubs paying half to a third, being offered roster spots prior to tryouts, and the girls who have been paying all that $ for years aren't even getting a second glance? That was my point. It's not always "you get what you pay for", sometimes it's"a fool and his money"...But who knows about next year with the whole birth year changes. But I will say this, a lot of you who think your daughters spot is secure because you've been shelling out all this $ to a certain club for years are fools. There's still a lot of talent out there playing for non ecnl teams and contrary to some people on this blog they are getting excellent training. Everyone knows the best college exposure is playing ecnl, there are reasons some have not yet made the jump(even though offered). Spring should be interesting, but for now let's enjoy fall.
PL dad/mom, you obviously concern yourself very much with PF. Are you upset you didn't go that direction last year? Worried she won't make the ecnl team? Not sure what the root of your bitterness is but make sure you keep it out your way in the Spring. After all sounds like you have quite the package deal there. You should be happy. Every parent has a choice where to spend their money. What others choose to do is none of your concern. Not your money. Not your kid. Let the blog posts move beyond your hate now, please.
Yes 2:50 NEFC and SSS are exceptions to the rule. No other team that comes on this site is at that level.
Poster 3:01 is correct . TM at PF is known for scouting players and making deals. It's not exactly a secret that his main interest is in the building of the PF brand .
Add in BB and FCV and you have hands down the top 4 in region 1. "A" teams. Everyone else is at least a step down incl the rest of the ecnl , maybe 12- 18 "B" teams who can compete but will usually lose by a goal.
But to my point, in NJ the best of the rest is found at PDA and MF. Maybe that is not so in PA or VA. Those 2 clubs have not only built a strong ECNL brand but also a strong NPL brand. This allows them to see talent develop at the "B" and "C" teams and move them up or down. Has proven to be very effective.
Don't get me wrong but they also recruit the best players from other teams.
Point conceded, but not so in PA. While PF is an exception team(see no hate!), the best of the rest are not on their NPL team or at either of the othe two ecnl clubs. They are scattered among a number of clubs, often different at different ages, no super clubs outside of PF. Might be geography. LV and PA Classics getting ecnl teams would certainly consolidate the talent spread across the rest of PAE. Of coarse if Cont. were smart they would move their ecnl training to central PA, don't think they will ever catch up to PF and having another ecnl on their western flank would pretty much doom them to mediocrity.
301/429 is being a bit "in your face" about it, but I think he's got this mostly right. Players are invited to PF winter practices for evaluation and penciled in before tryouts. And some are probably so well scouted beforehand that they probably don't even need to attend the winter practices. It's RARE that an unknown can show up at any tryout (not just PF, but any ECNL team) and have a chance of making the team.I can't speak to any of financial offers that have been made, but I know for a fact that they initially give players some perks to switch clubs. "Sure, we'll let you play up a year...and once we have you in the fold we'll put you in proper age." "We are very interested in your daughter...but not nearly as much as we are with two of her current teammates. Make sure they're at tryouts, too."But where 301/429 is wrong is that the parents at that club are so naive that they don't realize that their kids are easily replaceable. I guarantee you that every parent on the U14 PF team knows exactly where their kid stands with the coach and club. The bottom third of the roster knows who they are and how vulnerable they are. It's bad enough that they are vulnerable, I don't think you need add insult to injury by suggesting they are too stupid to know it.
Boston has lost 2 of the last 3 games to PDA. Why are they better
My original point, and don't take this the wrong way, is that PF will steal the best players from the other PA teams effectively making the other teams their B team
6:55It was great to see the ECNL's get turned down by a few top players this past summerA and B level? Eh - all thing considered - not totally
Steal? You're taking about kids here. Give these parents who opt to switch clubs and go there some credit for being smart. They know if their kid has talent ECNL is the place to be. Most aren't looking for their kid to be on the USWNT roster in a few years but rather to be looked at by D1 colleges. I guarantee a few months from now players from surrounding non ecnl teams will start showing face. Even some of those who's parents currently love to disparage them.
7:21 Do you believe everything people tell you? Don't be naive.
That's true, 7:25. Which is why the folks who used to argue that ECNL was an unnecessary waste are switching the argument from "ECNL vs. non-ECNL" to "join ECNL at U15/16 vs join ECNL at U13/14".Put another way, they're saying "you may have been right about about ECNL being the place to be, but you joined way too early, wasted your money, and my kid is going to steal your kid's spot anyway".
I really think that most parents would like to see their kids try the ECNL route, but most can't concede the three things it takes to go that route.1. Money- I know we have discussed this before2. Time - Lets face it. If you a PAE parent, there is really on one option on who to play for. And that team requires a lot of driving time for some.3. Ability- Many think they are good enough, But PF's tryouts are long after most non-ecnl teams. Does the parent take a chance on turning down a roster spot on a non-ecnl team, in order to go to PF's tryout and hope to make that roster.Unfair as it may be to the bottom third of the roster, in talking to PF parents, all of them know how it works. As the Godfather once stated "Its just business, nothing personal". This birth year change could make PF a huge draw, making handshake agreements not needed.PL Parent
The problem with waiting until U15 is that a player wont be used to high level competition on a regular basis and it can be a shock to them once they experience it. A player may be top 3 on their very good non ecnl team now but that wont mean anything if they can't handle the speed of play an ECNL pitch presents.
when most of you finally come to the realization that little mia isnt national level material, maybe not even D1 (have you seen actual top level D1-type kids? let me tell you they dont just rise up a bit over the rest, they are light and day above the others, the top top 1,2 on the field. And then you realize that school and academics should come first, and there you went and pissed away all the fun and enjoyment of the sport filling her ear car ride after car rdie with the virtues of D1 and how important it is for her to show well at a tournament.Meanwhile, the rest of the soccer loving world is going about loving the sport, dealing with being told how much better ECNL is, digesting that horrible reality that there might be a league out there, a set of players out there stronger than them, but offsetting it with having the best time, learning the sport and maybe just maybe allowing that love and freer spirit to let them snag the "d1" opportunities when your Mia is burned out and passed over.stop stripping the fun and love out of the this sport.have you run the math on scholarships? you are probably spending more money going after that scholarship than the scholarship will provide. and while Mia is flying around the country playing those highest level D1 games in front of 800 fans, others iwll be getting great grades and playing D2 or D3 soccer in front of 200 fans. Are you looking to have a pro soccer player for a daughter?wake up folks. wake up.
Chill out folks, there's no right or wrong path, only a right or wrong path for EACH GIRL, to be selected by her and her family only. For some it's ECNL, for others it's not. Plenty of girls play D1 from non ECNL clubs. Of course they do. ECNL provides a very high degree of exposure to those coaches too. So you're all right in one way or another. It's not that important to prove that your choice was the better one, is it?
9.1% is for boys. Girls are at 10.1%. These numbers are based on varsity players... The statistics aren't based on club players. I would like to see the statistics for ECNL/NPL players that go on to play college soccer. I have a feeling that is a much bigger number than 10.1%.
Someone give 8:09 a C and L and a U. Hopefully he'll find himself an E somewhere.
8:458:09 is 100% correct.
Look at PDA website for U17 ECNL team. Over 80% have committed to schools. Others probably waiting to commit to Ivy schools.
9:10 PMBut none of them had fun, right? It was all a complete drag, driving around, not being on their local team with their friends, right? Right?
My daughter has a blast traveling with her teammates and making memories. Never have I seen or heard her make it out to all be a drag. I guess if you travel alone then maybe it would be different but I don't know any that do.
Wow, lots of activity! Some very good dialect and bantering. Two things stand out that need some serious correction...1. If you don't think there are girls playing in the "B" leagues who are coming to take your spot on an ECNL roster you are crazy. Go ask a U16 or U17 parent at PF, PDA, MF etc... how many were on the team at U13 or U14. Not only do they come they often start in year 1.2. Wildcats... the heat, really? It barely reached 85 the weekend of spirit with moderate sunshine and low humidity. It was a beautiful weekend.
10:44 #2 ...but the Wildcats were under a magnifying glass so it was much hotter.
Former MLS exec Kevin Payne’s appointment to USCS’s chief operational level brought a level of prestige to the organization, and its recent announcement of its Players First initiative caused some ripples in the developmental pool. Payne likened it to a ‘Good Housekeeper’s Seal of Approval,’ raising the standard for clubs by setting a series of benchmarks - training, coaching education, safety standards - for clubs to meet. USCS has been decisively club-forward instead of organization-forward especially since Payne’s hire. This follows that metric. “We want to make sure that everybody knows that by being in NPL, you’re able to control your calendar, your finances, where you go to showcases,” said NPL General Manager Leo Garcia, who enters his second full season at the reins. “You’re able to control your player development opportunities. I think we need to do a better job at disseminating that information out to the parent level, who ultimately is our consumer along with the players.”Flexibility helped the NPL carve out a unique corner of the development market in the U.S. Where it goes from here is now the biggest question.Below are our Region1 NPLs playing this fall. As I said previoulsy these teams are playing their league games for something (chance at a National Title every game counts). While PAGS/EDP are playing league games to prepare for their tournaments and this year's NCS.NYCSL NPL 2015-2016 PT NPL EAST14 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-0113 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-0112 Quickstrike FC NPL-0111 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-016 New York Soccer Club NPL-010 Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01PT NPL WEST18 NJ Crush FC NPL-0116 STA NPL-016 New York Rush NPL-016 Match Fit Academy NPL-013 Princeton SA NPL-010 NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01---------------------------------------NPL Virginia Fall 2015PT NPL16 FC VIRGINIA16 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER 12 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB11 CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION9 VIRGINIA SOCCER ASSOCIATION7 FC UNITED7 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB6 NORTHERN VA SOCCER CLUB6 RICHMOND KICKERS5 VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER3 ANNANDALE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB1 CHESTERFIELD UNITED FC ---------------------------------------New England Girls NPL Fall 2015PT NPL12 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS12 OAKWOOD SC9 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS U14G NPL 01/025 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U14G5 YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE4 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/021 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/020 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 NPL---------------------------------------NPL Northeast Girls League 2015-16PT NPL15 PDA North 01 NP14 PDA South 01 NPL13 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL13 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL10 World Class FC 01 NPL8 Continental FC 01 NPL7 FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL6 FC Bucks 01 NPL6 East Meadow SC 01 NPL5 Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL0 Albertson SC 01 NPL- Connecticut FC 01 NPL- FSA FC 01 NPL
Wildcats always have an excuse for every loss or tie. Coach must get his head examined also some of the girls especially the hair puller.
8:13, is she new, did she come from the Hotshotz, or perhaps they are related?
"Is it fun for 13 year olds to brag about being in the top 20 of GS rankings (and for some parents)? Sure!"Why I dread the day my kid ever wants to play on an ECNL team. SKill, talent, drive are no problem but but are sorely lacking in the "bragging is fun" department. That environment is a major negative.
That's pretty serious stuff 813, I never once heard nor seen anyone from that Wildcats team do anything dirty on the field. Physical? Yes for sure. The occasional foul on a bang bang hustle play going for the ball? Yep, seen lots of that. But hair pulling? Never.
I agree you don't need ECNL at U14, but u15 is a very important year for recruiting the "blue Chip" players. Yes there were u15s committed and several others offered scholarships during their u15 seasons who have chosen to hold at this time. I can't remember if it was PL parent or not, but someone was describing his daughter as being double and triple marked etc indicating a high level player. I think players at the top of ECNL rosters benefit greatly from its exposure. If you think your kid may be good enough for Virginia, Duke, UNC, etc, rhwn she pretty much doesnt have a chance outside of the ECNL. Yes there are mid major and DE like committs coming out of the ECNL teams, but those kids are not at the top of the rosters. The top 5 off the rosters are all going to top 50 rpi schools with heafty if not full scholarships and some are some of the best academic schools as well. Sorry, but short of a top performing national league team, and those are also disappearing as tophat and JFC hit the ECNL with some of the others like la roca probably soon to follow, the exposure for top players outside of the ECNL is inferior. That said if your kid will not be at the top of the roster, no real advantage is extended to her. The bottom roster parents know exactly where their kids stand and it sometimes can be uncomfortable. The parent groups are not nearly as close as non ECNL groups in general because of the constant hierarchial reminders and players coming and going. But the training, competition and exposure from U15 on can't be denied.
And I am sure there are some humble kids and parents on those teams. The arrogance of some of the ones (kids and parents both) I have come across so far is comical in small doses, but on a regular basis would not be so amusing.
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