Kitty Cat parent no one cares you still suck and will lose.
4:27 dude it was better to not even acknowledge their cry for recognition...crickets, crickets.
12:30You'd do better to stop judging, scrutinizing so closely the players your daughter plays with and against.
Do you not understand my comment? The quality was crap, my kid was a lion among sheep, and that's putting it nicely.
Like I said - dont judge the others. It'll just leave you vain or bitter.Be happy for what you have.And we get it - camps can be trial and error. Dont judge all "mid major" events off one go round. Maybe you just ran into a down week.My advice would be to not do every camp that comes your way. Like the other dude said - was it even a school she wanted to attend - or did it just fit your schedule and seem to be the LEVEL you wanted her at?Cheers - best of luck down the pike. Ears open now....
July 23, 2017 at 12:30 PM "My daughter stood-out like a sore thumb, but not in a good way."Not sure I understand the comment. Did your daughter not show well against what you are considering lesser players? Are you indicating that due to the lower level of competition she did not play well? If she stood out like a sore thumb I am thinking you are trashing the camp and not taking into consideration that your daughter was not on par with the competition??ECNL reference not withstanding, recently have seen many commits to D1 programs that are not on current ECNL rosters. Be careful what kool aid you are drinking.
What I am saying is my daughter is a hyper-competitive kid, she was constantly frustrated by the lack of skill of her teammates in the scrimmage games they played. My kid would make a great through-pass, but the other girl would just stop running, or she could not handle the pass, or she could not understand what a give and go was. I guess what I am saying is my daughter wants to play with girls of her level, or higher. Problem is there not that many, especially at this camp. I say all this as a parent of a very skilled player, so pretend your daughter was in the same situation.
I think what you also have to understand is that while with her club team her teammates might LOOK FOR HER, understand her motives and motions since there is a familiarity - that this might not happen automatically with players she is unfamiliar with and are unfamiliar with her.At these events she might do best to hold the ball more - use more of her options both forward and back - and also KNOW that if she makes the proper read/play and her teammate "messes it up", the coach likely saw the benefit of what your daughter had just done.If you dont think they did then you might not place much value on THEIR ability to evaluate/teach/coach - and that can be a good thing to take out of a camp as well (as the other poster stated - to eliminate that school as an option)We had a situation - attending a school's camp, being recruited by one of the assistants but my daughter just couldnt get a good positive feel for the head coach. A bit of a tough call at that point....good school, good team, etc.... but.....Like I said - many stories out there to learn from. And so many do not get it just right the first go round - thankfully the transfer rules are liberal enough where the "career" can continue if the player wishes.
10:30 AM "Pretend Your Daughter..." Sounds like Penn State and UNC are missing out on your daughter. If she is on and ECNL team and is as good as you think/say and has not had a cadre of D1 coaches knocking down your door maybe it is something they see regarding her attitude?? Or her skills don't POP for the coaches. I have an older daughter and have seen a bit of what you are talking about, if your daughter is there without any of her teammates that familiarity can hurt, but coaches are looking for players that can integrate as when she gets to college she will need to play with a new set of team mates. Is the school one that has a good reputation and winning record in their conference. Was this a true ID session or a summer camp? Was she on the field with only U15s or was it rising sophomores through Senior's?
Dude. It sounds like you fell for the old "we saw your daughter play in phoenix" email that was sent to every ecnl player. These camps in general are the money makers for these staffs. You will know when a team wants her to be at a camp. Obviously wasnt the case here.
10:30 sounds like you and your daughter are very judgmental. It also sounds like she needs a whole lot of things around her to go right on the field for her to show well. If she is as good as you say, I am sure that she did fine at the ID camp. Coaches are looking for players that can handle adversity.
Yes, overall I think it is was a great experience, it was her first residential camp, so know she knows. Kudos and respect to all the players, it was really hot, and anyone that can go through that, gets a tip of my hat!!!
How do you know if an ID camp email is a genuine invite or bulk mail?
9:05, that is the magic question, with multiple answers. Anyone want to share their knowledge?
The easiest giveaway is if daughter gets this email after a showcase. If she reached out to the school first, then it could still be bulk, generic answer to email. Best case is if she didn't email coach first but gets this email after showcase. Of course, this should also include college coach communication with club coach at tournament.
9:3I'd think you would have gotten feedback OTHER THAN a camp invite - prior to the invite - otherwise you can assume it is just a mailing sent to many club players off a list.Have been to THREE. One was a school WE were interested in (went for 2 summers and got positive feedback)- and the other 2 showed interest first and our interest became mutual.Top 3 schools on our list right now at D1 level - though not being a junior yet it will be interesting to see what happens come Sept 1 when coach contact rules open up.
10;30 hopefully you don't talk like that around others and you're doing so just because its an anonymous site. read the article that was up yesterday about how coaches are scouting parents as well and you my dear sir are exactly what they don't want. i know you're just sharing the facts that you in your infinite soccer wisdom feel absolutely necessary to share with everyone in such an obnoxious way. UNC, USA, and every other top team can get just about any player they desire. they want size, they get size. want skill they get skill. What they are really looking for is the kid that makes everyone better. you only see your daughter through that canon camera. https://youtu.be/TiyuZhojev4here's an idea. Take up marathon running or track and field maybe swimming where she is on her own. that's the right fit.
8:37my older kid who is committed went to an id camp recently, too. coaches didn't put her with her other committed classmates. they put her with maybe some lesser talent to see how she would do and make them better. it was interesting for her younger sister U15 to watch the process. As someone noted, coaches test to see if you are a good teammate. They don't want kids that can't get along even with those not as skilled. And, they also want to see if your kid will raise the level, encourage and teach. Skill is only one item they look at. And, they probably already know skill level watching in other games. They want to see the person, how are they at breakfast; how are they in meetings; how are they at getting tips or giving them; do they yell; are they late to things; do they forget equipment; etc. Coaches want successful programs not just one successful kid. We were able to show our younger daughter just that. Good luck out there.
1:33 spot on.
@2:55 continuingoh and don't be shocked that you, the parents, are being evaluated too. Do you get along with other parents? Do you cheer or jeer? Do you encourage your kid to be a team player or fill her head with info that prevents it? They are the coaches. They don't want parents to be them too. It's their team, their job to make it successful and they make that quite clear.
9:57many mailing lists come from the various leagues and their electronic sites so we have been told. To weed out, pick the schools that interest your kid that may have reached out; ask your coach to reach out to several to find out if genuine interest or mass mailing. that's how we found the gems for our daughter.Then you may be able to whittle down the options even further and spend your money where you will get the most for it (actual interest from kid and coach; good coach and coaching style; good experience like learning nutrition; and expectations as a college student-athlete; dorm life; etc.).
So no updates from the Kitty Cat parents mean they lost I assume. Any info?
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