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Friday, October 17, 2014

U13G / U13 Girls Youth Soccer

U13G  / U13 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

12pm post

Case closed. Lehigh Valley and STA are your big wins? Let's please move on. You got your EDP points and beat STA(another inflated point team) and that is really it. I give you some nice ties but don't you even see what we are talking about?? Good team. Kind of where most had them ranked on that list.

Anonymous said...

Cats back 4 has plenty of skill and speed and played combinations and wall passes all day vs MF sunday.
Don't think you have seen this team lately.
And while we agree storm is very strong as is MF A team please don't tell us dragons, ajax and mf ne npl will rise back up to top after this year.
Those teams will be picked clean by ecnl teams and will always be considered B Teams by the elite tournaments and wildcats will pick up the next spot in line.
As far as ecnl flights in tournaments, that only applies to tournaments run by the ecnl clubs.
Jeff Cup, WAGS, etc will all have wildcats in top flight moving forward as state champs and up at top or near top of gs rankings in nj.

Anonymous said...

^^^^where's your list???

Anonymous said...

We are not begging to be recognized....... You don't see that with all of those top teams combining A and B kids you will struggle against those newly combined B teams and not even sniff the A teams.... That is why you are where you are and will be moving forward. All good but the way it will be.

Anonymous said...

Second tier New Jersey banter:

Crush and NJCSA (#6 and 5, respectively) set to face each other at Bethesda

Anonymous said...

Recruiting -

at the higher levels there may not be room for an entire team of hard tackling, direct players

But there sure will be spots for that type player to mix in effectively (at the D1 level, yes) with the more technical talent.

A good mix at the youth level is desirable - cant have all shifty flower types - and at collegiate level as well.

Anonymous said...

who is playing this weekend

Anonymous said...

Re: games on the way up between the PDAs of the world and the non ECNLs......

The results wont seem to matter, if even or skewed against the ECNL club

We will hear how they "won the possession game" and were unlucky not to net one....etc.

Note to them ahead of time:

When a Barca loses, they lost. And the team that beat them CAN play at their level.

Anonymous said...

12:52
"not begging to be recognized"
That's the funniest thing I have heard. ALL we hear is about how elite you are and no other team can come even close.
How is that not begging to be recognized
that's not only arrogant, but down right obnoxious

Anonymous said...

who is playing this weekend

Anonymous said...

12:58 yes, and even more coveted at the collegiate level to have some of those "hard players".
Just read any of UNC Tarheels Coach Anson Dorrance says about those types of players in his books.

Anonymous said...

I like to use GS as a means to see a teams past experience, but it is seriously flawed.

Look at all the points that the Wildcats have from EDP league play, keep in mind they have never finished first in their league.

Look at their record at U13 vs top teams (which the Wildcats were always ranked higher than as per GS) they don't have any wins.

I think they ARE a top 5 team in NJ. They have beaten STA twice and Crush once, both of which I consider top ten in NJ.

I looked at the Dragons record, they beat Ajax on the road and tied MF NJX on the road (as per the NPL website)

Wildcats lost to Ajax at U13. I don't think thats a big PDA conspiracy theory to inflate the Dragon team over the Wildcats.

I don't blame Wildcats for thinking they are better, I just can't see how they can support it.

Anonymous said...

12:52 you assume all A team players who lose their starting spots to outsiders and all A team players who lose their roster spots to outside players will accept spots on B Teams at these clubs.
You also assume B team players who expect to make ecnl A team and don't will remain on diminished B Team at the same club. Only the most delusional expect that to happen.
Many will move on.

Anonymous said...

mo worries we have a poster that posts that - I believe they did already

Anonymous said...

11:17 didn't wildcats beat Dragons?

Anonymous said...

I mean 1:17

Anonymous said...

Another way to look at it. And some will move. I get you. But if talent level on the "b" team is very similar to "other" teams A team, why not? Can still prove yourself within and maybe get to A team. "Other" teams are mostly at their peak. No option to "bump up"......

Anonymous said...

1:24 I believe somebody said it was u12 unless they played a friendly.

U13 can be a totally different team.

PS. So players that get cut from ECNL teams in NJ should go to

Nj wildcats
Nj Crush
STA
TSF
NJCSA

Didn't they leave these teams to begin?

Anonymous said...

"2:58 yes, and even more coveted at the collegiate level to have some of those "hard players".
Just read any of UNC Tarheels Coach Anson Dorrance says about those types of players in his books."


yes but those tough players have tremendous skill as well. At the highest levels players have both.

That is who you will be competing against.

Not some u12 team that is trying to master their skills.


Seriously, are you that Stupid!

Anonymous said...

U12 Wildcats beat U12 Dragons 1-0 in a June summer tournament.

Think Wildcats are using U12 results again. Go Boca!

Anonymous said...

What happens when the small technical players catch up in size to the big players?Give me a small technical player who might not have hit a growth spurt yet over a big athletic girl who is not technical.I will take the small player all day.Size will eventually come.If you have a tryout and you only look for bigger girls.You are surely doing a disservice to the team.I will take a girl that can play soccer and wins the ball with her technical ability or her bulling girls off the ball.

Anonymous said...

You're maling assumptions about looking for big girls 1:58

And some of the little ones, when they grow, will still not be physical.

Growth affects each girl differently. Some get bigger - and yeah....slower.

Anonymous said...

PDA nor Matchfit have anything special going on. You can spend all day trying to paint them at a different level, but the truth hurts. They are NO BETTER THAN any other NJ top level teams (Including STA)

They are great at steering everyone away from the fact that they performed just as everyone else did at EDP cup (average at best), which was their MOST RECENT showing

So stop already with all the hype.

Anonymous said...

1:17

I may be misunderstanding

Are you asking if Wildcats is believing they are superior to PDA DRagons?

Thanks

Anonymous said...

201

Not the ones that are able to play at the high level leagues. By u15.. they will be big, fast, technical and willing and wanting to initiate contact . See the u15 teams in the ECNL..The difference is absolutely remarkable.. Skill and physicality and tremendous speed of play because of their skill.

You must first begin with skill. You can't begin with physicality and then try to build skill later.




Anonymous said...

Hmmm...I hadnt seen this

Wildcats going to MD a week early, get Calvert on 11/8

Anonymous said...

Skilled and strong players from non ECNLs have the option each year to make the jump

That many DO NOT (for various reasons) is the reason these non ECNLs remain viable.

Anonymous said...

2:10
What you are missing is that they will blend one more time to make their true A and B teams. Other programs do not have that..... Tops kids from current teams will be a beast. So you will be competing with the newly formed B teams and they will be as good as the ECNL teams are right now. ECNL will move up to another level by combining top kids.

Anonymous said...

No 2:10

I have seen the NJ teams play. They are better- by a lot.


Anonymous said...

This is like the looney tunes. Dragons, Ajax, stop. Tough to handle a team that plays like the Wildcats at U13. Rough and tumble out of the back, OK. Seen them play more than once. How about your middies and wing forwards? What are they doing that translates down the road? Storm middies at a different level.

Anonymous said...

They truly aren't, sorry!

Anonymous said...

"storm middies at a different level"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Anonymous said...

then WHY COULDN'T THEY WIN THE LITTLE EDP TOURNAMENT??????????????

Anonymous said...

that they entered last minute no less, thinking they would sweep through.
What have you won of substance?

Anonymous said...

Most of PDA ECNL league wins are bigger "in substance" than ANY of your wins. No?

Anonymous said...

No, they are not. what makes them of more substance??

Anonymous said...

More nonsense on this blog. This PDA and match fit team will be taken apart by u14.

why is everyone sweating this year when the personnel will not be the same?

Seems like a silly conversation.

Anonymous said...

I thought League was for development PDA?? Still no answer on your mediocore showing at EDP cup. You know, the inferior league that held a cup tournament the your elite academy couldn't win

Anonymous said...

2;43 go pick a fight with the U14 team. you will have the final teams to make your case on why your team is better and more special.

Anonymous said...

Give me ONE Wildcat or STA win of more substance than a PDA pre ECNL league win.

Anonymous said...

"PDA nor Matchfit have anything special going on. You can spend all day trying to paint them at a different level, but the truth hurts. They are NO BETTER THAN any other NJ top level teams (Including STA)"

You my friend may be correct. Their top teams right now at the U13 level playing other top GS teams may go either way. Happens in all top level sports. Now go to their websites and check out where their U18 girls went to play college this year. A wide variety of girls from all three, yes ALL THREE MF teams went on to play competitive collegiate soccer. The parents of ECNL teams are paying now for the last few years of high school to be in an organization that is going to get them the best looks. Any of the other teams have girls at the U16 level locked into college scholarships yet? MF has about 9 right now.

So to sum up your post 2:10, they may NOT BE BETTER than others now. Stay where your at and enjoy your ride. Great coaching and leadership from those two clubs will get them there, as seen year after year with their college choices. And no I am not the coach just a passionate parent so please..You can verify just check his twitter

Anonymous said...

In December we may have the first National champions at this age group crowned in PAE or NYE - NJ not represented at the Super Y League 2014 Finals

Group A
Gold Soccer Academy
Grand Rapids Crew Juniors
Patriot FC (PAE)
Annandale United Majestics FC

Group B
Northern Virginia Majestics
Rage SC (PAE)
Orlando City SC
DDYSC Wolves

Group C
Atlanta Fire United
WAZA FC East
VA Alliance
Long Island Rough Riders (NYE)

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats, I will say the same thing I said for NJ Crush, No one can argue with the Tournaments you play in.

These 3 Tournaments are tops for the Fall - no one can argue unless of course they are jealous. Your results while not great are also no bad for top flight.

(TBD) Bethesda Tournament
(W0, T3, L0, GF1, GA1) WAGS Tournament
(W0, T2, L1, GF3, GA5) Spirit United Kickoff Classic

Plus you stay local for EDP and MAPS tournaments to play top teams locally. You can not control who applies and who doesn't.

If you keep this selection of tournaments combined with selection of tournaments you did in the spring up Jefferson, PDA and Delco your kids will be seen and will also play a ton o games. Again no one can argue this. Just keep it Up.

I am curious how your team handles the Region 1 Championships and if you Qualify for the Nationals on the USYSA side, because you guys going to IN for NPL finals is almost a given unless EDL has some new clubs this spring that have strong u13 teams. I am almost certain you will qualify for the NJ Cup in the Spring and if PDA and MF skip that one as well you will go to nationals on the US Club side as well. Lots of trips in your future.

Good Luck. I am cheering for you, even though some of my posts don't have you ranked on top of NJ.

Anonymous said...

The problem will be when all these ECNL teams really kick in all over the Northeast next year, they will be the teams chosen for the top flights at these tourneys. They will NOT reference to Got Soccer as much come next year as there is a track record. Come U14 the ECNL teams go to a different level. Again, proven to happen year after year...

Anonymous said...

And that is why people are always trying to get on to these teams. Whether you like it or not....

Anonymous said...

Where did MF Pre ECNL play last weekend?
Did they have game on Saturday or Sunday?

Anonymous said...

NO ECNL players played.

There are black players that get moved up to play with ECNL players.

Anonymous said...

lmfao

Anonymous said...

5:12 shows how much you know and this blog

Anonymous said...

PDA tells NPL they dont care about the rules - reschedules game with EM.

Classy.

Anonymous said...

2:53

Look it up yourself

STA beat FSA pre ECNL

Anonymous said...

Beat World Class pre ECNL as well

STA definitely THE up and comer in this age group.

Kudos to Wildcats for getting through this tough team.

Anonymous said...

STA and Wildcats; You will not get the recognition you seek from this anonymous Blog.

Just play in the top tournaments and play good solid soccer where you are making more than 3 passes at a time.

Win a few in this manner and your team will be recognized.

Wildcats will have a chance to do it in the Bethesda tournament.

I will make sure , I come back here and congratulate them on a job well done.

The PDA team at this age group and the Matchfit team is a good team but not a great team.

By next year both teams will be significantly better as they prepare for the ECNL schedule.

Different players through out these teams will change the dynamics significantlyly




Anonymous said...

5:17 don't know what that's supposed mean but LMFAO even more...

Anonymous said...

Go Wildcats!

Anonymous said...

Congrats to the Fall Champions:

NPL Virginia 2014-15
PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER U13G

New England Girls NPL Fall 2014
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS



OTHER NPL Leaders as of today:
PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER U13G
NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
Orando City YS U13 Girls Pre-ECNL (FL)
MS Rush 02 Girls (MS)
Omaha Elite Girls Academy - NE U13
Connecticut FC 01 NPL
CROSSFIRE PREMIER '01 SCHMETZER
New York SC NPL-01
FC Portland Academy Pre ECNL - 2001 Girls
Eclipse Soccer Club Girls U13 (TX)
MVP Marauders Navy 01 (WA)

NPL Finals going to be great

Anonymous said...

Pags D1 playoffs should be interesting this coming weekend. Penn Legacy, by far the best team, has been injury stricken for the past 3 weeks. 3 starters out which has no doubt hurt them. Results will depends on the status of those injured in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Somebody posted something about top tournaments and their flights.

JEFFERSON CUP

Playing Format

The top playing level in every group is the Championship division, and in descending order also includes Elite, Superior, Platinum, Classic, and Premier.

The girls side also features a separate Elite Clubs National League (ECNL) bracket.

Anyone know when the ECNL Bracket play starts?

Anonymous said...

1:20am

everyone on this blog are quick to say that injuries do not make a difference.

They don't want to hear that there are injured players.

they are quick to say," well we have injured players too"

It would not matter if those players are national players according to this Blog.

There injured players are always equal to your injured players.

It is take the win at all cost!


In the real world we all know that Injured players can impact a team, No matter how good that team is.

Parents just want to say, we beat Penn Legacy!

I am not just talking about teams that are making excuses, I am talking about real Injuries to impact players.


That is why this Blog and its parents are Full of you know what.

Good Luck to Penn Fusion!

I hope they prevail in spite of the injuries.

They are a dominant team.


Anonymous said...

Lies: And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them

Anonymous said...

Staying healthy is a skill, too, 8:49.

Anonymous said...


How many of top teams have the same roster week in and week out ?

They play with who made their team and don't use fill in players whether injuries or sickness OR need to have a certain game.

Anonymous said...

We lost because we were slower.

We lost because we were smaller.

We lost because we were less skilled.

We lost because we stayed up late eating cookies and watching movies.

We lost because we weren't healthy.

Anonymous said...

The above is proof of my post. If a team played with 8 players The other team will never mention that they will just take the win and walk away. It's up to third parties to point it out. So you get an honest perspective of the teams playing. Parents are full of ---- . They all think their little Mia's are superstars.

Anonymous said...

I certainly understand why a team would want everyone to know that one of the reasons they lost was because they were missing their best player.

But shouldn't we also take that team to task for relying too much on only one player?

Who designed this team with such a steep talent cliff?

How about next time designing the team so that if one player goes down it doesn't have such a huge impact?

Anonymous said...

::YAWN:: page 46 of the PDA excuse manual. Next year they will have an online tool to generate excuses on the fly. I hear there's an iPhone app in the works.

Anonymous said...

"The above is proof of my post. If a team played with 8 players The other team will never mention that they will just take the win and walk away. It's up to third parties to point it out. So you get an honest perspective of the teams playing."

I agree.

"Parents are full of ---- ."

Probably true. But I have no idea now it relates to your first point, above.

"They all think their little Mia's are superstars."

This isn't true at all. And again, I have no idea what it has to do with your first point. Are you saying that it REALLY burns your biscuits when a parent crows about beating, say, NYSC, but then they don't take into account that NYSC was missing players?

Anonymous said...

Page 48

We only gave our bench players a chance to play

Anonymous said...

10:58



Why are you bringing my point back to PDA.

I can't stand PDA!

What is your obsession with them.

I assume you have some inferiority complex about that club.

Anonymous said...

9:47, not sure how we got dragged into this, but since we are being referenced, let me elaborate.

Blaming a loss on injuries is something you can really only tell yourself, and even then its a delusional attempt to find closure. To come onto a forum like this and cry about injuries is lame, and an open invitation to ridicule, we will pass. The top clubs do not find excuses for losing, or winning, they play hard, and let the chips fall where they may.

Anonymous said...

11;29.


You may not comment but a third party can certainly say, NYSC lost today, tough for them, My understanding is that 3 of their best players were hurt.

Congrats to team A but would sure like to see that game played with NYSC 3 best players. Especially when NYSC handled that team in two prior occasions.

The fact that a third party has to say that, tells me that parents cannot look at another team objectively. They are so concerned about their team and their little Mia measuring up, that if their were 8 players on the field, they would just ignore it .

But anyone honestly assessing would say, those players being out makes a huge difference.

I hope Penn Legacy prevails, they are the better team.

Anonymous said...

"The fact that a third party has to say that, tells me that parents cannot look at another team objectively. They are so concerned about their team and their little Mia measuring up, that if their were 8 players on the field, they would just ignore it ."

In those parents defense, most of the time the winning team does not know if the losing team was missing players.

"But anyone honestly assessing would say, those players being out makes a huge difference."

Of course, but at what point does the team just own the loss and stop trying to put an asterix next to it? "We lost, but..."

My daughter's team has played almost every game this fall without one of their impact starters. They play PDA Storm while missing three starters, including their leading scorer and best midfield. And guess what? They lost.

Now I'm completely fine knowing that we'll give them a better game next time we see them. I don't need to share it with this board and justify the loss to everyone. I do not care if the board thinks her team is not as good as it actually is.

Anonymous said...

Page 63. To convince them, pretend you're not from PDA, or say you hate PDA.

Anonymous said...



Good question previously posted

How many teams use same roster of players week in and week out

Anonymous said...

You mean, the same 18 on the roster? Or the same starting 11?

Yes and yes.

Anonymous said...

Injuries happen especially at this age. Some of the girls play middle school and club, too much if you ask me. The problem with blaming loses on injuries is your bench players should be able to come in and play at a comparable level as the starters. (Especially with ECNL teams)This is not true for most teams I know that. (Not true for my daughters team) This is why a club like PDA is strong. They have bench players that can come in and compete at the same level as starters or closer than other clubs. If they recruit kids or whatever they do it shows in results. It doesn’t mean they will win every game, this is soccer and we are dealing with teenagers.

Anonymous said...

Play an injured team (that is obviously the better any given day) and beat them, great. Play them healthy, it'll be a different game. Just saying. PA Classics, YMS, 1776... Not in the same class. Decent teams but again, not in the same class.

Anonymous said...

Just looking at the Bethesda schedule. Boy the Potomac Blue group is stacked toughest group for sure with Cincy Gold, MF, BRYC and Badda Bing. Hopefully they don't beat each other up too bad and not have anything left in the tank for the finals. Cincy will be tough to get by.

Anonymous said...

"Play an injured team (that is obviously the better any given day) and beat them, great. Play them healthy, it'll be a different game. "

Well, duh. I think we can all agree on this. I thought the issue was whether folks should come the board and try to soften their losses by saying they were missing players.

I say, let them do it. I also say, let others jump all over them and call them "excuse-making whiners". Everyone wins!

Anonymous said...

At least 1776 is a skilled team. YMS at that age is lucky to have the size they do. YMS has few skilled players but lots of ability to push girls off the ball at this age.

Anonymous said...

Hey 12:01, guess you have a tough NY Cup game coming up with Atletico. Should I send my daughter over to Rockland county? She could really help, especially in the midfield...

Anonymous said...

Seems a bit early for Bethesda predictions, but I guess I'd have the Blue bracket finishing

1 Cinn
2 MF
3 Bing
4 BRYC

I've seen all of these teams play except Cinn.

BRYC's got nothing. Arguably should not be in the top flight. Bing is big and fast and may do well if they bring some guests. But MF is just better. Never seen Cinn, but they seem to be the class of this flight.

In the Green flight I got

1 Virginia
2 Wildcats
3 Penn Fusion
4 Maryland

Out of these, I've only seen PF and MD.

MD is like the Bing, big and tough but can be handled. Wildcats vs Penn Fusion will feature a consistent team (Wildcats) vs an inconsistent team with a high ceiling (PF). Consistency wins out. I'm putting VA on top by winning tiebreakers. I actually expect VA, Wildcats and PF to each finish with 2 wins and one loss.

Cinn over VA (or Wildcats or PF) in the final.

Anonymous said...

Thanks MF coach for your thoughts on Bethesda.

Anonymous said...

Hey 4:19, you replying to 1:37 or 2:00?

Anonymous said...

Thanks for calling me MF Coach. I will take that.

Anonymous said...

No sweat MF Dad.
You are the only one talking about the top flight at Bethesda and how it's so tough. Most people here do not care. It's only you trying to hype your flight and teams up. Can't wait to see you go up against the wildcats...that's if you can make the championship game.

Anonymous said...

I give Wildcats 1 point

But I will be rooting for them

NJX is who I am intrigued by. Sorry - MF NPL

They travel well - and should be a handful in second flight

MF Black in sixth flight only because they have no seventh

Anonymous said...

1 point? I don't think so. Isn't MF NJX the NPL team?
Why are you intrigued by them? Don't understand your post. Wildcats have been on a year. We are now #1 in Got Soccer and #1 in the State. Girls are playing great. You should be intrigued by them.

Anonymous said...

A team that has NEVER beaten that NJX team.... I know it kills you. And after this year that wildcats program will be in the rear view mirror. But please tell all the recruiters that you were good at U13..... Quite sad that you do not see it coming. Top girls from old NJX team will be on ECNL, some on NPL and some on your team..... Enjoy your swan song!

Anonymous said...

Whats really sad is that they don't see it coming.

I feel bad for the girls because the parents only want the best for them.

They don't understand that their script has been played over and over again. but to them this is there first time.

Igonorance is indeed blind and Bliss.

been there done that and did it with that coach many years ago.!!!!!!!!




Anonymous said...

Wed, November 5, 2014
0 FSA FC 01 NPL
3 Connecticut FC 01 NPL

3.00 (6) Connecticut FC 01 NPL
2.78 (9) PDA North 01 NPL
2.56 (9) Match Fit Academy 01 NPL
2.33 (9) PDA South 01 NPL
1.67 (6) FSA FC 01 NPL
1.45 (11) Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
1.18 (11) Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL
0.91 (11) FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL
0.67 (9) World Class FC 01 NPL
0.56 (9) Continental FC 01 NPL
0.55 (11) Albertson SC 01 NPL
0.45 (11) FC Bucks 01 NPL

Going into the weekend CFC controls their own destiny perfect in 6 games with 6 clean sheets. They get MF NPL and CFC Delco this week to stay on top of the table. From the looks of it we now know the top 4 teams and if the top 4 make the post season the rest of this fall and the spring will be a battle for seeding.

While over in the Pre-ECNL flight

2.50 (8) PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
2.44 (9) East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.91 (11) Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.89 (9) Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.82 (11) FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.67 (6) Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.64 (11) Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.00 (8) World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
1.00 (5) FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
0.91 (11) Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
0.30 (10) FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
0.00 (9) Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL

Anonymous said...

That Coaches whole team went D1 12 years ago.
You don't know what you are talking about.

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Anonymous said...

The only reason the Wildcats are #1 in NJ is they play in a bunch of gotsoccer events (49 games on the gotsoccer site) In Wags, Spirit and Delco that got zero points. Three of the bigger tourneys. At last yrs Jeff Cup they were listed as Semifinalists in the 2nd tier. They came in 2nd in their bracket.
GotSoccer is purely on a point system by ranking. As was said many times on this blog the ECNL teams will drop in ranking. They will not have time to play in all the little tourneys or will want to play in those tourneys unlike the Wildcats.
If the girls and the parents look at that #1 in NJ and #4 in the nation ranking and it makes them feel special then great it should. The girls still had to play the games to get to that point. The parents still had to drive the girls to practices and games. Although in the long run it doesn’t matter now.
TopDrawersoccer has a national ranking out for this age group. There are only 2 NJ teams in the top 25, PDA and MF, sorry Wildcats. The ranking doesn’t just include ECNL clubs it is everyone. Here is the link :
http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer/club-soccer-team-rankings/women/u13/1/452

Anonymous said...

7:59- The Wildcats were awarded the bulk of their GS points for playing in EDP. To this point, they have never won their EDP division. Finishing behind Ajax last Fall and Storm in the Spring.

They have not won ANY games at a U13 tournament. In fact, they have always been the higher GS ranked team.

Anonymous said...

I, for one, am intrigued by the Wildcats. And I hope to be able to finally see them play at Bethesda.

Just by reading this board, my guess is that Wildcats have some real athletes on their defense. They will swarm, cover for each other, and recover quickly. It's clear that they don't give up many goals, but I'm betting they also don't give up many shots either. My guess is the girls are physical, and arguably a little dirty sometimes. They will knock you down and then ask you get back up so they can knock you down again. If they get a ref that calls the game tight, they are in trouble.

I'm pretty comfortable with that assessment of their defense without ever seeing them play. What I have no idea about is how good their midfield and forwards are. This is what I am most curious to see. If they somehow get down a goal or two early, do they have the guns up top to get back into the game. Or do they have to move one of those athletic defenders up top in order to get some offense going.

So, yeah, I'm intrigued. I've seen MF NPL I felt it was a team that lacked ideas offensively. Much different than watching the MF pre-ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

8:00 PM MF Coach and MF Dad can be used interchangeably. I don't care how many teams he combines, no MF Squad, will beat this current Wildcat squad.

Anonymous said...

8:38, I too was intrigued to see the Wildcats play, since they get no respect on this board, but have shown a winning record, wanted to see for myself.

I got that chance at WAGS, and your assessment is spot-on, they are physical, and their defense is tough, especially their center-back, she is a stand-out on the field, bravo to her! My daughter had 15 minutes to spare so we watched, and after I asked her what she thought, and she said, they are good, but their midfield could not hold the ball long enough. That was an excellent point. Good luck to them, cheers!

Anonymous said...

Everyone on this blog always has 15 minutes to spare with their daughter to watch another team

Anonymous said...

We were playing on the field next to them at WAGS, do you not believe me? Here I am complimenting your team and you attack my credibility?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for reminding us it's an anonymous blog, 9:39. Very helpful.

Anonymous said...

Observation.

Every time someone downgrades MF NPL, there is someone jumping on to direct a comment towards ECNL. Hmmm which parent from NPL

Anonymous said...

9:54 Thanks but please stay off our side.With friends like you, -----!

Anonymous said...

lol.. we know which parent from ECNL it is for sure. He's been exposed.

Anonymous said...

TeamRank is the comprehensive team-ranking system devised by TopDrawerSoccer.com to provide an objective and common-sense approach to determining which elite youth soccer teams are the best in the nation.

The rankings, updated monthly, are primarily results-based, with a nod toward the league and championship competitions that emulate how excellence is determined in leading soccer nations around the world.

Tournaments are also included but at a reduced value due to the many mitigating factors involving such events, including attrition and guest players.

A final layer of executive evaluation is provided to account for variables that often impact results, thus ensuring that the monthly lists are not subjective, but are not purely mechanical.

Anonymous said...

Every team seems to lack offensive fire power when they play each other. Haven't seen many teams that play on a higher level have great ideas on offense. I haven't seen it from, Storm, MF, NJX, Ajax or Wildcats.
Each one of these teams are lacking the offensive punch.
It's called GOOD DEFENSE!

Anonymous said...

I guess MF Pre ECNL stealing the GFA girl has given them offensive ideas. LMAO

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcat or MF Coach

People claim these bloggers happen to be a coach.

I am sorry, I know many coaches from by being a team manager for a long time. Coaches do not need to come on this blog, don't believe it one bit. Especially with posts that some point to MF. times just do not match. Plus no one is on here saying they are the best, etc

Now I actually do know many people that are on this blog. they do get a kick out of stirring the pot, pretending to be others. I have posting many of times, never bashing any team. Just provided some insight on games I watched.

NJ Wildcats for sure is a top 5 team. I would say Top 3 in NJ. Proved this over the last year and a half. They lost to PDA Ajax, one game this is all it was. One Game. How many Storm players guested that weekend? NJ Wildcats will make final

Anonymous said...

I've seen both MF ECNL team and Wildcats play this year. Both are strong teams but I think MF is better. Wildcats are aggressive, step to the ball, and have great defense and one or 2 fast wingers. MF all around plays strong and smart and the team 211doesnt let you get many shots off. They have some girls who are stronger than others, but overall MF is the best team I've seen (But I havent seen storm)

Anonymous said...

"I guess MF Pre ECNL stealing the GFA girl has given them offensive ideas. LMAO"

Ha ha! I am also laughing my a-- off, 11:44! Because what you wrote is so funny! It really made me laugh. You're a funny guy. We should hang out.

Anonymous said...

11:49 and 12:02 at least seem like objective opinions without ridiculous attacks that make no sense.
We can argue who is better among these fine teams that have proven themselves consistently by going toe to toe against the best competition out there without resorting to bitter attacks and name calling that have no basis in reality.
Maybe bitter disgruntled parents are behind most of these negative posts.
Ya think?

Anonymous said...

12:02 seems like a MF infomercial.

Anonymous said...

Some GS projections for leagues that have a flight value for those of you that like. Based on the following 8 Team Division % from EDP. I applied the same % to the below less each team’s 20% to come up with an approx. value. I cannot try and project Virginia NPL, NorthEast NPLs because I am not sure if they are entered one time manually by GS or if there will be a fall and Spring season entered.

100% 1st
80% 2nd
65% 3rd
50% 4th
35% 5th
25% 6th
10% 7th
0% 8th

=============================

NYCSL NPL U11-U14: FALL 2014
9/6/2014 - 12/15/2014
Girls U13 NPL
Flight Ranking Value: 7000

4860 1.NEW YORK SC NEW YORK SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE)
1645 2. STA NPL-01 (NJ)
1884 3. NJ CRUSH FC NPL-01 (NJ)
2537 4. MANHATTAN SC MANHATTAN SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE)
1984 5. MASSAPEQUA SOCCER CLUB NPL-01 (NYE)
1106 6. QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL-01 (NYE)
0 7. ISA INTENSE SOCCER ACADEMY NPL-01 (NYE)
0 8. NEW YORK RUSH NPL-01 (NYE)

============================

New England Girls NPL Fall 2014
7/1/2014 - 11/10/2014
Girls U13 NPL
Flight Ranking Value: 4625

GS PTS – Team

1328 1. NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)
2058 2. OAKWOOD SC (CT)
0 3. SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 (NH)
1717 4. YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (CT)
14 5. BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 (RI)
1049 6. SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G (NYW)
0 7. AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK (MA)
0 8. GPS-MA NPL (MA)

Anonymous said...

Wildcats now trying to compare there team to
matchfit ECNL and they haven't won a game against quality opponent yet.

I guess you can say anything on a BLOG.

Remember they are the number #1 ranked team In NJ.

Lmao!




Anonymous said...

yeah, keep saying they haven't beat a quality opponent.. ask Storm.

They will smack MF

Anonymous said...

Still holding on to PU Storm at u12..

LOL!!!!!

I love it!!

Remember you are the Number 1 team in NJ

LOL!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thanks 2:46!

Anonymous said...

Wildcats will Play Storm any day. No worries.

Anonymous said...

lol..."any day". like bragging on a blog makes your team a non kick and run.
i got news for you. you both have a lot of work to do.


Your team just has no technical skill.

Anonymous said...

just because you say it doesn't make it true.. We'll prove it on the field.

Anonymous said...

Keep chasing & buying points Wildcats as your defenders, all 5 of them (or is it 6? definitely 5 not sure if there is another one playing back all the time, probably is), continue booting the ball down the field.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats just ignore them.
It's bitter jealousy from the ones who left and thought we would fold up without them, NOT!!
Let's just stand on what we do on the field guys.Keep competing in the top flights of the best tournaments while they wallow in 2nd and 3rd flights.
We have nothing to prove to them.
Let them talk.
It's clear by this years U13 tournament flightings which teams have the respect of those who matter, and which teams don't.

Anonymous said...

4;52.

Actually you were able to get into the top level of this tournament because you are state cup champs and have garnished GOT Soccer points. The quality of those Got Soccer points are questionable. no believes you belong because of your style of play. You will have chance to prove you belong by doing well in the bethesda tourney.

Do well and the Naysayers will go a way(except the ones with an agenda) Do poorly and you will just confirm what every one thinks they Know about your team.

#truth#

Anonymous said...


Comparing NJCSA Galaxy and Wildcats in EDP Central League this fall:
w tie loss gf ga
NJ Wildcats 5 0 0 11 0

NJCSA Galaxy 3 1 4 9 11

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is same level of competition that Wildcats played last month in WAGS Cup Flight and they were 3 competitive games, all ties.
What do they have to prove?
Who are you anyway that you have any credibility?
Your opinion carries no weight with us or anyone who matters.
Wildcats ability to compete with the best has been shown consistently for the last year plus.
You need to figure out how to get your own team/daughter into these top flights.

Anonymous said...

MAPS CUP 2014 FALL [U11-U14 GIRLS]
11/22/2014-11/23/2014
Teams Applied

NJ Wildcats Averbuch

Greater Binghamton FC 01 Select
Harford FC United Thunder
PA Crew Academy Blue

Americans Rebels
DMS Soccer Academy GU13
Edison United SA Lightning Bolts
Harleysville HFC Ready '01
Jersey Premier Soccer Flash
Jersey Shore Boca Jr FC Fusion
Lower Merion SC Herricanes
Medford Strikers SC Soul
Mercer FC Spurs
New Jersey Rush 01 Girls Blue
NJ Crush FC Tsunami White
STA Morris United 01

Anonymous said...

It really doesn't matter what you do with those with an obvious agenda.
Every success you have they will just move the marker out further.
Believe me no one is paying attention to the haters.
Everyone who is honest knows you guys are a very tough out.

Anonymous said...

For those who want to brag & boast about shutouts, & I know this has been brought up in past, so far in EDP Central 1st division a total of 27 games have been played. 20 of those games have had a shutout. So, there is almost a 75% chance that every game played will be a shutout. So please don't come here boasting about how great your defenders are & will be having college scouts looking at them soon. You sound foolish doing so. Just saying!

Anonymous said...

Wildcats Parents, coach or whom ever comes on here.

Don't defend your team on this blog, more you type more they will come after you.

Your team belongs in the top 3. Can you beat PDA or MF yes, Can they beat you Yes. Who cares. You have a nice team. Leave it alone

Anonymous said...

Sorry I like the post talking about Generation Adidas Bethesda Tournament-Girls Tournament. I think with these big tournaments we can talk 3 Flights deep maybe more. I will stop at 3 for this tournament.

A Flight: I agree it will come down to MF ECNL and Cincinnati, I will go with the home town team as winner of a coin flip. I think FCV, PennFusion and NJ Wildcats is a tough flight equal to 4 Pre-ECNL league games. For me it will be FCV or PennFusion playing in final. All 3 will beat Maryland and NJ Wildcats will have a say on who plays in the final in my opinion.

1.MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)
2.CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)
3.GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)
4.BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)

1.FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
2.PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
3.NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
4.MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)

CHAMPION = MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)
======================

B Flight: I think HMMS has a walk in the park and I am still scratching my head on how the undefeated PAGS D1 team is in the 3rd flight and HMMS is in 2nd. Talk about no love. PA, your 1776 (you like this team) will win one game and will not come close in the other 2 NEFC best team in flight


1.HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)
2.HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)
3.BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)
4.EMPIRE REVOLUTION ROCHESTER 01/02 (U12) (NYW)

1.NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)
2.MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL (NJ)
3.1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)
4.WNY FLASH ACADEMY 2014 FLASH ACADEMY GU12 (NYW)

CHAMPION = NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)
======================

C Flight: I will pick Rage to win their group in a tune up for the SUPER Y National title played in December. I went PA Classics because they are in 1st place and were shown no love by the tournament people. Although I think NJ Crush can very easily win this flight.

1.RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)
2.NJCSA GALAXY (NJ)
3.MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 RED (MD
4.VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW)

PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
ISA 01 NPL (NYE) FC FREDERICK '01 (MD

CHAMPION = PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)

Anonymous said...

Wildcats will smack MF?

Anonymous said...

Not promoting MAPS, but find it very funny that 3 teams from Bethesda Tournament - 2 from top flight are playing in a local NJ tournament - one is the topic of hate these days and no other big NJ teams wants to take a shot at the NJ State Cup Champ?

Yeah, much better to come on a board and and say they stink instead of playing them.

They don't look scared and if they are just a GS chaser who doesn't deserve top billing, this should be some easy tournament with a bunch of GS points to be had . Let's see if anyone steps up? or are we just going to throw stones from a distance?

Anonymous said...

542

You lost me at "Not promoting", check that. You lost me at "Not"!

Anonymous said...

Note:

In teh second flight those U12 teams ARE in fact U13s.

Anonymous said...

5:53 You don't find that funny? All these people ( r u 1) saying all this stuff about Nj Wildcats. All I did was put everyone on the spot. They are playing in NJ and no one is stepping up but everyone has some trash to talk.

Walk the walk don't just talk the talk

But no one will.

Anonymous said...

For those that like to follow tournaments like I do - or I guess promote them - let's not forget this one this week.

CASL Girls Shootout

A Flight
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES U13 Pre-ECNL
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 Pre-ECNL
01 CASL Juniors Ladies G
Boston Breakers Academy

FC Stars Gu13 North United
BRYC 01 Elite
Michigan Hawks 02
JACKSONVILLE FC Storm 01/02

=========================
B Flight
PWSI Courage 01G Red
SC UNITED FC- MOUNT PLEASANT 01 Elite
TRIANGLE UNITED SOCCER U13 Gold
Pipeline SC Black 01

TRIANGLE FUTBOL CLUB ALLIANCE
Real Colorado Olympico
BEACH FC 01
DISCOVERIES SOCCER CLUB 01 Lady Green

=========================
C Flight
GREENSBORO UNITED SOCCER Navy G
01 CASL Red Ladies
FCV United '01
FLORIDA KRAZE KRUSH 01/02 Black

Richmond United pre-ECNL
PITT GREENVILLE SOCCER Stars G
MD United FC 01 Red
STORM SOCCER ACADEMY 01 Girls Black

Anonymous said...

ANother good one to promote.

Is it me or does CASL and Disney look stronger than Bethesda?

Disney Junior Soccer Showcase – 2014

JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)
SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)
UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)
WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL)

ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS)
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA)
MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL)

BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)
CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL)
SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC)
TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)

CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)
CES CREW WHITE (MD)
DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN)
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)

Anonymous said...

Hey 5:53 got one more to promote. You know me so well. Anyway

MAPS and NEWSS both look nice to end your season but only one has your NJ WIldcats

NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer Showcase
11/29/2014-11/30/2014
Teams Accepted

Girls U13
East Meadow HotShotz
Atletico FC Girls '01
STA Morris United NPL 01
TSF Academy 01/02G
Yankee United F.C. Blast NPL-01 Blue
Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNL
Glen Shields FC G01 (Canada)
Albertson Soccer Club FURY WEST
Atlantic United Academy – Avalanche
Capital United Blue Force
DE Union Orange '01
LaGrange Soccer Club Rage
Manhattan SC G01 Pride
Massapequa Soccer Club Lil' Rowdies
Mercer FC Spurs
Perfect Touch Soccer Academy Girls 01-02
Ramapo Valley SC Tornados '02

Anonymous said...

November always a Big Tournaments Month to end your Fall.

How about Spring what are some big ones? I feel like I'm missing a few.

Jefferson
Manhattan
Match Fit Academy FC Invitational 2015
PDA
DelcoDallas International Girls Cup
Surff Cup (summer)

Anonymous said...

Hey "just saying" is giving you away dude.
You have a tell.
Focus on your new team.
Stop looking up our statistics.
It makes you look even more obsessed than you are.

Anonymous said...

Coach easy with the bitter ex parents and such. You come across as paranoid and awfully presumptious. The people killing your team for fun on here are mostly parents from MF, Celtic, Storm, Ajax, and Dragons. You sound like a screwball when you keep bringing up the Manalapan guy and the people from NJCSA. You want it to be them but its not. Its the people from the academies breaking your stones.

Anonymous said...

^^^^and you know this how?

Anonymous said...

There is nothing more truly pathetic than the following.

Take some girls from 1776, some from PF, some from FC Rev, PL...give them a "fun" name, enter them in the typical mediocre tournaments and let them demolish their competition. Then to finish it off pose for trophy pictures with that "team." Oh wait that's already being done. They're called the Twisters. The puppet master/dad of that "team" should be so proud! Get a life. That is not a team. That is a joke. Focus on your daughters Pre ECNL team, really...

Anonymous said...

some really good tournaments

Bethesda Top Drawer Ranking

CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) #14
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ) #15
GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) N/A
BRYC 01 ELITE (VA) #12

FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) #22
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) N/A
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) N/A
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD) N/A

Disney Junior Soccer Showcase – 2014

JFC STORM 01/02 (FL) #5
SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA) N/A
UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA) N/A
WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL) N/A

ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS) #21
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) #22
GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA) N/A
MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL) N/A

BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL) N/A
CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL) N/A
SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC) N/A
TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA) #11

CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC) N/A
CES CREW WHITE (MD) N/A
DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN) N/A
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL) N/A

CASL Girls Shootout

A Flight
WEST FLORIDA FLAMES U13 Pre-ECNL N/A
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 Pre-ECNL N/A
01 CASL Juniors Ladies G N/A
Boston Breakers Academy #16

FC Stars Gu13 North United N/A
BRYC 01 Elite #12
Michigan Hawks 02 N/A
JACKSONVILLE FC Storm 01/02 #5

Based on Rankings, Bethesda has 3 teams ranked in top 215 in same bracket.

Anonymous said...

8:02
Match Fit Tournament as a top tournament in the spring?
Too funny. Too Easy.

Anonymous said...

So i guess the others okay and you don't have any to add besides removing MF tournament.

I'm okay with that.

Anonymous said...

10:33 Bethesda also has the #8 team in the country according to Top drawer in the 2nd Flight. Great chance for MF NPL and 1776 to possibly sniff Top Drawer rankings.

Wouldn't that be something one club with 2 teams in top 50? MF NPL Strong NPL league play record then knocking off #8, might get some love?

Anonymous said...

BRYC at Top Drawer #12 is a mistake. They are lucky to be in top flight at Bethesda. NEFC would have been a better choice.

MD should also not be in top flight. MF NPL would have been better.

Anonymous said...

PAGS D1 playoff predictions

Saturday Semis
1776 2 PA Classics 1
Penn Legacy 3 YMS 1

Sunday Finals
Penn Legacy 2 1776 0

I'm not that high on 1776 of late, I just don't believe in Classics.

I fully expect body parts to be left on the field after the Legacy/YMS game. How banged up Legacy gets in the semis could affect how they play in the championship.

Anonymous said...

7:57 I think Classic holds off 1776.
You keep trying to push this team as a strong team. You made me look them up 4th place in PAGS D1 combined with the below doesn't paint your picture. Sorry :(

1776 W1, T2, L3, GF5, GA7
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE) 0-2
CREEKS SOCCER 01/02 KRUSH (FL) 1-1
LTSC STRIKERS (MD) 3-0
UKRAINIAN BLASTERS BLACK (PAE) 0-0
GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 (NYW) 0-1
FC STARS OF MASS NORTH (MA) 1-3

vs PAGS d1 top teams
PA CLASSICS Academy 1-2
HMMS Eagle FC Spirit 0-0
PENN LEGACY 01 Black 2-2

I also think PennLegacy beats YMS, but YMS did beat the almighty PennLegacy 3-1 in league play. Let's see what PennLegacy does when they want to win a game like you said.

Anonymous said...

Some good tournaments to end the Fall Season for MA,VA,MD,NJ,PA

CASL
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 Pre-ECNL
Boston Breakers Academy
FC Stars Gu13 North United
BRYC 01 Elite

Bethesda
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)
BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)

Disney
SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)
FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)
CES CREW WHITE (MD)

Anonymous said...

You're right. 1776 does not win the big games. But I like the way they play. I guess I need to take the blinders off.

Anonymous said...

Twisters hater- you seem to be harping on a non-event. What is wrong with a group of good girls and friends getting a chance to play soccer when it doesn't interfere with their real team's schedule. Everyone on here knows that good players get asked to play in events outside their primary teams..does your daughter not get asked to do extra things? Can we now get back to real soccer issues and discussions?

Anonymous said...

8:38 so you say it's wrong to attempt to identify individuals on an anonymous blog and then you do exactly that.
You may be right about some of the joking.
But there are a couple ex parents with an agenda.

Anonymous said...

For PAGS D1, does anyone find it odd that PA Classics didn't have to play 2 of the other 3 playoff teams? The scheduling gods were kind with no games against PL or YMS.

When you look up their GS history, they don't play in many quality tournaments. Only two tournaments worth 7500 or more and they did not even place. One for 6000 in which they were semi-finalists. All their championships come from <4300 competition.

Yes, they beat 1776 2-1, but perhaps that was a game that could have gone either way. Comes back to the argument of always wanting to face better competition. When the competition is light, hard to really get a gauge of what your team can do.

Going 21-3-4 with 10000+ GS points doesn't mean as much as going 10-9-9 against pre-ECNL or NPL teams and having 1/4 of those points.

If it's a coin flip game, that's probably in both teams best interest.

Anonymous said...

Once again we are seeing how GS has been exposed. Leagues are manipulating the GS system with giving out points. You look at these teams in these flights but when you look at top drawer, they would have gotten it much better. More of a non bias ranking method.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Classics played a soft schedule. And even with that soft schedule, half their wins were still only by one goal. I don't mean to pick on them as they don't control their schedule, but it makes me wonder if they really are better than the other three playoff teams.

Anonymous said...

Like I said, TopDrawer has gotten BRYC all wrong (they were #3 at one point), but they are getting some teams right, like Boston, who has lost some of their shine after this Pre-ECNL season.

Anonymous said...

Now wondering if PA Classics requested to play in the lower bracket at Bethesda.

Chasing 'trophy pictures'???

Anonymous said...

PAGS D1 playoff predictions

Saturday Semis
1776 0 PA Classics 0 - PKS 3-2 PA Classics
Penn Legacy 5 YMS 2

Sunday Finals
Penn Legacy 4 PA Classics 0

Penn Legacy shows who the better club is in Lancaster.


As far as PA Classics playing in the 3rd tier at Bethesda, this goes for all the NON-ECNL teams. How do you get girls to come to your club by winning. Some parents just look at the wins and loses. If PA Classics wins Bethesda maybe some parents will look at that and be impressed enough to bring their girl there never look at who they played. This is why Clubs play in so many gotsoccer events. Parents look the site and see XYZ team is #1,2 or 3 in a state and automatically think they must be good.
Lets not forget the girls on every one of these teams have no say in where they go and play. It is totally up to club. The girls go onto the field and just plays who lines up against them. They still have to beat those teams to get the trophies.

Anonymous said...

Top Drawer Soccer at the older ages only ranks ECNL teams. Not a single NPL team etc. can get close to bring ranked. Not because they aren't better (which a lot are!) but because TDS is biased towards ECNL. Again it's another ranking system with a big flaw.

Anonymous said...

11:18 of course
top drawer is subjective boys club of ecnl coaches who talk on the phone and 1 of them ranks each age group.
total cronyism .
At least GS while not perfect is objective,you earn your points by who you beat.
the only reason we are seeing top drawer rankings hyped now is because the 2 nj ecnl teams and their npl teams have dropped in gs rankings. No mention of top drawer when they were ranked highly.

Anonymous said...


Really give us a break with the Top Drawer Rankings.
they should be on an ecnl only blog.

Anonymous said...

Enjoy your NON ECNL Clubs!

We hope your daughter has a great experience.

We love our choice.

Anonymous said...

11:46am is the type of person who says "my car is better than you car"

Anonymous said...

11:48.

You seem to have some insecurities about what other people are saying about your car.

Anonymous said...

11:46 great, then start your own blog for ecnl clubs.
We are not interested in subjective rankings that are for ranking ecnl clubs only on this bog.
this is a U12 girls soccer blog, not a U12 girls ecnl clubs blog.

Anonymous said...

sorry U13 blog

Anonymous said...

I don't care about either ranking. I just care about how my daughter is progressing.

That will determine how good she is as a soccer player not my teams ranking. Let the coaches worry about that crap.

What about you?

Anonymous said...

Guess 12:01pm does not have a daughter playing up anymore.

But, keep chasing those trophies.

Anonymous said...

Right. Let's all remember the rules people!

It is ok to talk about individual teams.

But it is not ok to talk about groupings of teams, for example, ECNL teams. Talk about them individually, but do not compare them as a group.

Got it?

Anonymous said...

Let’s see, on my kids team we have the following cars:

Mercedes-Benz (6)
Audi (2)
Range Rover (2)
Jeep
Subaru
Tahoe

and one helicopter ; )

Anonymous said...

i must admit, i'm abit jealous about the helicopter.

Anonymous said...

What kind of car does your coach drive?

Or is there a designated parent that is responsible for driving them wherever they need to go???

Anonymous said...

Oh hey there "coach" (or T parent....) "Real soccer" my point exactly. Thanks for the help. Would much rather discuss and only SEE real soccer! Play crap indoor leagues all you want just stay out of tournaments. True teams want to win/lose/tie to REAL teams!

Anonymous said...

Who should stay out of tournaments? What did I miss???

Anonymous said...

Maybe there should be a ECNL and non ECNL blog?

Anonymous said...

Hey there Mister non-Twister: If you can't beat it, knock it. Nobody on this NJ soccer blog asked or cares about your opinion of some 12 and 13 year old friends primarily from the Lancaster and Reading area having fun and playing some extra soccer together.

Anonymous said...

hello experts. Help few of us out here with all your knowledge as you always do and what blog should be for. Can a girl play for two separate EDP teams and be double carded for that matter? thanks

Anonymous said...

Agreed, 1:54. There have been some monumentally stupid posts on this board, but complaining about friends playing some extra soccer outside of their club team may be the stupidest.

Anonymous said...

NJ Blog? Well my mistake! Are you for real?

It's a Blog!!! Didn't know only MF or Wildcats could be discussed??!!

Anonymous said...

Ha! Agreed!

Anonymous said...

2:08 Two separate teams on the same club?

Like U12, and then play up for U13, or 2 different teams in EDP divisions.

Anonymous said...

How about if these girls have time off from their clubs all you parents give their legs a break? Poor kids. Run them into the ground at 12/13.

Anonymous said...

Some play U12 club ball, some play U13 club ball. They come from about four or five different clubs to form a team for the odd tournament in the U13 age group. They played Ajax last winter at an indoor tournament at U Penn, FWIW.

Sounds like someone in PA is tired of losing to them.

Anonymous said...

How about you mind your own business and worry about your own kid?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like someone didn't get invited to the party and is felling a bit left out.

Anonymous said...

feeling

Anonymous said...

Rather it sounds like you're that parent who runs their 12 year old into the ground maybe??

Anonymous said...

Hey obnoxious know it all, no, actually my kid has never played against them. I hear other annoyed parents talking about this joke and happen to agree.

Anonymous said...

My kid played against them last summer in a tournament with her Union Summer Select team...got pasted pretty good, but since we were essentially a tournament team too, I can't do too much complaining about it.

Anonymous said...

Good NPL game tomorrow, any predictions?

FC Crush vs. NYSC

Anonymous said...

The Twisters hater needs to focus on his own daughter and her team. Which I hear hasn't played too well in their last 2 games .

Anonymous said...


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Anonymous said...

Bottom line is The Tournaments are linked to gotsoccer points, not top drawer ranknings. The acceptances and flightings to the tournaments are determined to a large degree by gotsoccer points and rankings.
And that is what affects us and our kids. That is our system, it's not perfect, but at least it is objective and not subjective.
If you want to move up you can enter events that offer major points if you can perform well enough to advance.
But you can't get points unless you advance.

Anonymous said...

I am really curious to see what happens in the PAGS u13 playoffs. Penn Legacy's top five or six can play with nanyone, but they have a serious drop off from there, especially with some of the newer girls. I truly think 1776 is the team to beat. YMS and Classics have had good years, but both are a year away from competing with those top two teams in a big game.

Anonymous said...

You are saying Penn Legacy only have 5-6 on roster who can play anyone? No way. Definately not giving them enough credit. 1776 has a good passing game and some very technically good players but are way too inconsistent and lack size. I agree with you about Classics and YMS. The 2 that deserve a spot in Sunday's final are Penn Legacy and 1776.

Anonymous said...

7:25 your so right.







Idiot

Anonymous said...

You are right that PL has more than five or six good players. But what I was saying is that their top five or six are THAT good. Not taking anything away from the next five or six, who are still good, but not as good as the first few. Where they have struggled is when they've had some injuries and have had to go deeper...

Anonymous said...

So 3:50- you are saying that this dopey dad and collection of girls played Ajax last winter in a game at Penn? That must have been fun to watch Ajax teach them a lesson in front of the folks from Penn!

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