8:30 there is such a void of logic in that post that the admin should delete it...immediately.
The way to beat storm is the following: 1 choose a field that is small and narrow 2 make sure field is grass and is very bumpy(This will neutralize their passing game)3. Step to the ball with lots of pressure4. Be physical - soccer is physical but in this case be excessively physical. Donot be afraid to go through them to get to the ball5. Be good at set pieces and be ready to score on corners. 6 do not try to pass around them. Put the ball over the top as much as possible. This is how you beat any young technical team. But you have to do it in the early years of a teams technical ability. As they get older, these type of teams become so good that field conditions want matter. Whatever you do donot play this team on a pristine field with lots of width. You will wind up chasing the ball for 70 to 80 minutes.
Yep.. Thats just the way we did it.We actually played our home games on turf except when we played PDA.Chose the crappiest field we could find . Played every other team on turf.
9:00I prefer:Teach the team to contain and to mark well off the ball.
9:00A very good piece.
Will be hard for Storm to ever knock the ball around at will vs a team that presses high with 3 forwards is much quicker and more athletic, more fit and much more physical and tough in challenging for the ball on the ground and in the air. And being dynamic on restarts is always going to be an advantage and often the deciding factor in close, competitive games at any age.
Only hard int the early years, as the athletes come in that are technical fit and physical, well then you have your hands full. Like most of these PDA teams, half the kids want be here in next 3 years. It is Just a fact of life at PDA.Team just keeps adding and subtracting.
Top 5 teams total games played to just wins (g.s)Storm 28-19Ajax 39-22Cats 42-24NJX 38-21Matchfit ?
Meaningless stat. Not all games are on Got Soccer.
10:49 Same List - 2014/2015 (EDP,NPLs,GS)Winning % Team (GP-W)0.857 Storm (7-6)0.786 MF ECNL (7-5)0.750 Dragons (6-4)0.714 STA (7-5)0.667 MF NPL (6-3)0.667 Ajax (9-6)0.429 NJ Crush (7-3)0.333 Wildcats (3-0)
Teams this fall are completely different from their spring squads. Some have improved their roster and some have fallen off. It does not make sense to look at last years records. It also is too soon to look at this falls records.
7:55 I'm with you even though I posted this year's records to show how things are starting to shape up.Last year is just that last year - not all teams look the same way good or bad and this year well it's still September.
EDP CUP 2014 FALL [U12-U14] - Looking like a nice tournament.This gives us 2 tournaments to follow WAGS + EDP Cup.Top Girls U13 Flight????1. Atletico FC Girls '012. CES Calvert Crew White3. Council Rock United FC Bucks Esprit ECNL4. FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 015. STA Morris United NPL 016. TSF Academy 01/02GOther teamsHowell United SC OutlawsDoug Miller Soccer GU13 AcademyEastern Shore SC / Henlopen WhitecapsEdison United SA Lightning BoltsFC Copa Academy Lima NPLFSA FC U13 Girls NPL 01FSA FC U13 Girls Elite 01Global Premier Soccer NH Classics EliteHunterdon FC DynamoJersey Premier Soccer FlashJersey Shore Boca Jr FC FusionJersey United Spartans 02/03G Pre ASL WhiteMedford SC HurricanesMedford Strikers SC SoulNew Hyde Park NHP Wildcats Lady JaguarsNew Jersey Rush Hamilton Wildcats 01GNew Jersey Rush Highland 01G BlueNJCSA ElitePiscataway SC JaguarsPrimo FC U13 GirlsRamapo Valley SC Tornados '02Real Shore Lakewood FC CrewSABA Brooklyn CitySJEB '01G NPLSTA Morris United NPL 01 WStaten Island United HotshotsStaten Island United LightningThe Football Club of NJ 01/02GWashington United Fever '02Westfield SA FC Premier Coloccini
Using these 6 teams for EDP Cup. The projected flight value will be 9,000.15 Atletico FC Girls '0139 STA Morris United NPL 0140 CES Calvert Crew White73 TSF Academy 01/02G90 FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 01553 FC Bucks Esprit ECNL
Of course if FSA Elite is in the top flight over their pre-ecnl team the flight value goes higher.
or if they add FSA Elite and another team to make a flight of 8 teams not only does the flight value go up but points will be available for the 3rd and 4th best teams.Lots of GS points available if GS is your cup of tea.
Shouldn't it be?NJX/PDA NorthPDA SouthBocaWildcatsPDA Pre-ECNLMF Pre-ECNL
Has Boca ever lost to PDA South/North or NJX? I don't think so.
When do the EDP Open Cup games start?
Stop with the total games and total wins. Means NOTHING when some teams play town teams and other are playing legit programs every week. The days of looking at that to rank are over!
I agree that due to roster changes, it doesn't make much sense to use the old scores to determine rankings. Kind of like looking at the Giants and Eagles historical records to determine who will win this year.If you feel the need to compare, at least we'll get to see which of the PDA and MF Pre-ECNL teams does better in their NPL league. Similarly, we'll get to see which of Ajax, NJX, and PDA Dragons does better in their league.Wildcats are outside looking in this year. My guess is they are the driving force behind all these "ranking" posts. The other teams will be able to settle such questions on the field.
10:29 You are spot on here......
Wildcats looking in?Recent (since Memorial Day) wins vs Ajax, vs South Shore Elite, vs STA - and ties vs NJX and Calvert ......Very impressive(yes, I know they also lost to Ajax but just 3 losses since Jeff Cup.......(Ajax and Crew Juniors, Ohio - plus the one bad day vs Boca)
I guess you would have to if you were them.These are the TOP teams in their league. You kidding me??TSFLVUSJEBCan only image the talent level of the next group of teams......
We are talking about current season and near future. Again, all you talk about are past results. You are a good team but you have to admit you are not playing talented teams this season to move to next level.... Just a reality.
What "league" are you referring to.
10:41The problem is your reality is no one elses.
Doesn't matter who you play a good team gets the results.WHY do you say TOWN Teams in a negative? The below Town teams should never have gotten a result going by the way you look at them.get off your high horse my friend. Maybe your world revolves around your kid and what's she's doing just like everybody else cares about their kid and what they are doing.ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 1-0EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 2-1EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 0-0SACHEM SPEEDPDA STORM (NJ) 1-0PDA STORM (NJ) 2-2JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASHPDA AJAX 2-1JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC 01/02New Jersey Wildcats 3-1 MEDFORD SC HURRICANESMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL 1-1SDFC SAMBAMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL 2-2
The reality is that poster 10:41 is PDA and unless they are in the league it's not strong enough.Have to wonder since they made the move away from EDP and they are the ones playing in very lopsided gamesBe careful what you wish for PDA
10:50 be more specific PDA plays is 3 different leagueNorth East Girls Pre- ECNLNorth East Girls NPLEDP 2nd Division.Which one are you calling out?
You can't be talking about Pre-ECNL and I doubt you care about 2nd Division EDP so your beef is with PDA North or South?
Wildcats are a tournament team right nowKnock their league all youw antI'd venture a guess they may be playing some unreported friendlies as well.
Like every other team playing friendlies.Yes, they need tournaments to keep up their game. But a comment like that is saying the team looks at their NPL as a walk in the park. Maybe same happened when they played Boca last year?
So what happened to Brentwood?ISA smacked them around and it looks like they dropped from the league? SO ISA lost their win.
Brentwood and HBC have never had the same team 2 seasons in a row in NPL. Sad. You dont want noncompetesBest for everyone if they are out, though it would then be just a seven game fall and a seven game spring.
Go to backofthenet.com - the Long Island board - maybe they can answer.
Any predictions for the cup games over the weekend?
I think there are only 3 games in Round 1 for the ChampionshipMARLTON SC STORM (NJ) HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNING MANALAPAN DYNAMITE (NJ) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACKJERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLUEHaven't seen these teams play yet this season, but based on previous years:MarltonMFBJPS
Didn't Manalapan knock MF Black (Jaguars) out first round last year?Wildcats, wake up its U13 now. Have you won any games at U13? Saw you lost to Ajax 3-1.
New York Club Soccer League - NPL DivisionThis week's Quickstrike FC vs New York SC will be a battle for first place.Yes this is only the 2nd Game of the yearbut this league uses a straight throughplay year 7 home/away games vs each teamsoevery game is super important. If they run it asprevious year's no second chances.Since it looks like the u13 Brentwood team bounced Intense SA lost it's 6-0 victory and is playing their 1st game against one of the favorites to represent the leagueat 2015 NPL Finals NJ Crush FC.Massapequa SC with a victory will keep them very much alive, they can'tlose any points to NY Rush who might be the doormat for the league this year. The league does cap the goal differential at 8 could get ugly when spring schedule starts. (W-T-L)1 Quickstrike FC NPL-01 (1-0-0)2 New York Soccer Club NPL-01 (1-0-0)3 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01 (0-1-0)4 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01 (0-1-0)5 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01 (0-0-0)6 NJ Crush FC NPL-01 (0-0-0)7 New York Rush NPL-01 (0-0-1)8 STA NPL-01 (0-0-1)
U13 Pre-ECNL (GP) (Pts/GP)PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 3.00Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1 3.00East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 2.33Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 2.33 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 1.33Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 1.00World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 2 0.50Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 0.00FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 2 0.00FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1 0.00Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0 n/aFSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0 n/aWith PDA, World Class, and the CT teams not playing, not too many good matchups this coming weekend. Best are:SaturdayEast Meadow vs. Penn FusionSundayBoston vs. Match Fit
Thank you 1:05 - I will do the New England NPl nextNortheast Girls NPLNortheast Girls NPL is also a straight through league. However, they do provide a second chance for Seeds 2, 3 & 4 as the top 4 make the playoffs. PDA South and World Class will not play any games until October while Boston and FC Stars join the party in September. The two Connecticut teams don't party until Oct/Nov. One important thing before we get into this week's matchups, the league does not cap goal differential, so you might see many lop sided games as teams try to avoid finishing in 2nd place since they will play 3rd place in the 1st round of the post season. Saturday Games:PDA North 01 currently in 2nd place on goal differentai tie breaker play Penn Fusion SA 01 who with a win will jump over PDA North in the standings.Boston Breakers Academy 01 will play their 1st game vs a non MA team Continental FCwhoarestill searching for thir 1st pointof the season.FC Stars of Mass 01 also playing their 1st game vs a non MA team Match Fit Academy 01. Unfortunately, for them the NJ Cupwinners are also the pre-Season favorites towin the league.Sunday Games:FC Stars of Mass 01 after a tough Saturday game gets a lighter Sunday game vs Continental FC 01.While the Boston Breakers Academy 01 get their shot at the NJ Cup Champion Match Fit Academy 01.Albertson SC 01 looks to bounce back after a trashing last week vs Penn Fusion SA 01 for the PA team 2 wins this week can put them in a good place.PDA North 01 draws FC Bucks 01 for their Sunday game who has given up the most GA if you don't count Albertson's meltdown last week to PDA North.PDA South 01 NPL (3-0-0)PDA North 01 NPL (2-1-0)Match Fit Academy 01 NPL (2-1-0)Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL (2-0-1)Albertson SC 01 NPL (1-0-2)Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL (0-1-0)FC Bucks 01 NPL (0-1-2)FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL (0-1-0)World Class FC 01 NPL (0-1-2)Continental FC 01 NPL (0-0-3)Connecticut FC 01 NPL (0-0-0)FSA FC 01 NPL (0-0-0)
Both MF teams traveling together to boston. Should be interesting to see. Looks like first game against FC Stars is at the same time and fields next to each other. Maybe the parents could have a BBQ together during the games and discuss which team should be the ECNL team.
New England Premier League NPLI could not find any information in regards to the structure of the league.I'm assuming it's also a straight through league with a Fall/Spring Home/Away schedule - not sure if they will have a playoff or not. SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13GPlays it's two games this week vs OAKWOOD SC & YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01For Oakwoodit's an opportunity to keep on pace with NEFC who is on bye this week and killing everyone.SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 should claim soul possession of first place vs AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK this week who are looking for their 1st points. BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 are also looking for their first points vs GPS-MA NPL who are looking to stay in the picture.NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (2-0-0)SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 (2-0-0)OAKWOOD SC (1-0-0)SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA U13G (1-0-1)YANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUE (0-1-0)GPS-MA NPL (0-1-0)BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 (0-0-2)AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK (0-0-2)
EDL NPL still very much a mystery in regards to it's members. Assuming they lost the two NY clubs and did not replace them they will split the below 10 clubs (NJ Stallions doesn't look like they have 1 and Jersey united is using their u12 team) into 2 Divisions and have them play 4 games each with the winners playing each other to represent the league.FC Copa Academy (NJ)Jersey United Spartans (NJ)Lehigh Valley United (PA)Maryland Rush (MD)New Jersey Rush (NJ)NJ Stallions Academy (NJ)NJ Wildcats (NJ)Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)TSF Academy (NJ)
1:20 Great job previewing the games. Interesting to see how NJ teams do against out of state elite clubs.Just want to clarify:PDA South is AjaxPDA North is DragonsMF NPL is NJXMF Pre ECNL is the old black team, FalconsPDA pre ECNL is StormRight?
1:22, You’re funny, I like that idea, too bad the only thing on the menu will be MFA, well-done.
Bitter bitter is back...... If your kid had a shot to play on either of these teams this year and had a chance at being on either team next year, you would take it all day long..... I know, you would rather play in that insane EDL NPL league..... Come on.
1:50 I believe you are right - that's how I see them as well.
You are right..... It is so funny how easy you can spot the bitter bitter kitty kitty. Thin they see how they are starting to be left behind......
so many dopes on this board...
I heard that MF Jaguars had to pay for the bbq for the other two teams going to Boston.
I would sooooo rather be going to the Smithtown kickers this weekend.....
Hahaha, 2:13.and no I am not with the Wildcats...
OMG. Loved 2:13's comment. Have not laughed outright at a post in soooo long! Thanks for making my day!
1:22It's not a team issue. Don't think that's the issue at all. I believe the issue is about putting the best players on the ECNL team for u14. A lot of players in the MF program are being hidden because they are surrounded by good players. Just give every kid the opportunity. Nothing should be handed to anyone when people are spending thousands of dollars on these programs. I think that is why PDA is bringing in players throughout the age group now to see who can make their U14 ECNL team.
Is the difference between the way PDA and MF are going about integrating new players into their ECNL teams based the geographic expectations of the parents?I mean, the PDA ECNL team will play and practice in Zarapletatph. Everyone knows this. If you want to play on the PDA ECNL team, you better find a carpooling buddy who will drive half the time to practice from Tom's River or South Jersey. This is known and written in stone.And as far as the MF Falcons are concerned, it's the same deal for the MF ECNL. It will practice and play out of Denville, right? And is this what NJX was told? Or were they told that sometimes practice would be in Denville, sometimes in Holmdel? Because if they were told the latter, I can see why the club is reluctant to invite the best of NJX up to Denville. It would beg the question, "hey, when are you going to invite the best of MF Falcons down to Holmdel"?Based solely on what I have read on this board, I have no idea if the NJX kids were ever told they'd be leaving NJX to play in Denville.
Ajax is a very good team but for anybody to come on here and put down the Wildcats for losing a meaningless game at Delco is crazy. Penn Legacy tied Wildcats with a last minute goal to send them, Wildcats, and Calvert into a 3 way tie. After Wildcats lost in. PK's to Legacy. Legacy went on to totally dominate Fusion by a score of 5-1. Fusion who day before had beaten Ajax. The game was for nothing so the coach played around with his rotation. Wildcats have played Ajax 5 times in the last 12 months. Wildcats won 2. Tied 2. Lost once. Let's move on. Good luck Ajax you have a very good team. Best of luck in the future.
PDA the only club that will havemore than 1 ECNL team per age group and will have ECNL teams down at SHORE and at the SOUTH facilities per Mike O
Why does when Legacy scored matter? Are you picking on the Wildcats for having a mental breakdown when the victory was nearly in their grasp? That seems unkind.
3:47 is a bitter NJX parent who was told that MF ECNL will be in Raritan and then recently heard that MF is opening their own facility in the north. don't worry.... I'm sure PDA Shore would love to have you.
Classic. The kids probably don't care where they play. Honestly, most of the NJX parents are D-bags, so I find it comical that match fleece pulled a fast one on them.
Holmdel......Denville.....Just because both teams are Match Fit doesnt make the decision on changing teams any different than it is with a Wildcats or STA or Crush player deciding to go try out in Denville.ECNL Match Fit is in Denville. If you are not currently with this team and are considering trying out, no matter what team you are with now, teh distance to practice is a factorDitto all the Ajax kids, of which I have no idea any have designs on ECNL.....in going to Zarapheth to try out.You are HERE - and its 25 minutes each way to ptractice.Do you want to go THERE, where it is an hour each way?THIS is al;so why ECNL teams do not have the very best players in the state. Just isnt doable for some families And many are comfortable in their non ECNL locale.
Nothing is perfect. If distance is too far, PDA has a team in the North, South and East (Shore). Eventually they will have one West. All will be quality teams and all will be top 10 in the State. They will always have top coaches and your daughter will get plenty of recognition from colleges. Time to give in!
Real nice 4:56 PM poster, you don't know me from Adam and you call me D-Bag. I do hope that you don't kiss your daughter with that dirty little mouth, maybe your mommy should have washed it out with soap more often than she did. BTW define "most"since you know so much. Does it mean 17 of 18 are D-Bags or what? How many of us are,please elaborate.
Wildcats, don't embarrass yourself. Your the same team that slams PDA for saying any game is meaningless. You paid to play Delco, any didn't try in your only Sunday game? Your a joke. U12 is over, teams have improved. You got smoked by AJAX, what's your record at U13. Any wins? Good luck in the Town Team Cup this Fall. Go Boca.
Why must you call people names? Have they ever done anything personally to you? I know a few parents over at NJX and they happen to be decent people.
Dude, Ajax 3 Wildcats 1 does not matter. What matters is that Wildcats tied Legacy who smoked Fusion who beat Ajax:Wildcats 1 Legacy 1Legacy 5 Fusion 1Fusion 2 Ajax 0If you add it up, it comes to Wildcats 8 Ajax 2. THAT'S the score that matters.
6:45You too....oh wait that's right, you CANT PLAY IN THE STATE CUP!!!Too bad for you, BA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
You are all crazy! Going to watch the friendly between USWNT and Mexico with my daughter!!
Ajax team is different at every game. They borrow from Storm and Dragons, so we really don't know who the original team of girls are . Just call them PDA
Parents need to realize these girls are only 12-13 years old. Unless your child is a superstar or prodigy no college coaches are going to look at them.. We need to stop pressuring them so severely and build up their confidence and skill first! I recommend you go to a nice soccer environment where your child will develop their soccer ability!
I just don't get it college coaches aren't going to be looking at your kids at 12-13 years old. The only way that's ever happening is if your child is a prodigy and that's pretty rare. Find a nice competitive environment for your child to play. Then later on start to pick things up to much pressure. You want to build skill and confidence. Comment if u disagree.
Wildcats, what is your record at U13?
What's the New England Patriots' record? Who cares?
Did you tell all your parents that drove two hours, food, and gas that was a meaningless game, because I'm sure all the people paying for the team and all the extra training didn't think it was meaningless. Now you have nothing to hang your hat on, 0-1 vs PDA at u 13.
0 wins, 1 loss 3 ties
They have 1 win , 1 loss and 0 ties
Ajax please stop.You are not even the number 1 team at your own club.You sound insane.You do realize that new players are being picked to the north team over the girls who's parents been writing checks for years?More will come next year.New players will come next year and again your darling will be overlooked because there is a player who received far superior training.Again remember ajax you are not even the 1st team in your own club.So coming on here stating how much better you are than any other team is nuts.First start worrying about being the 1st team at your own club and not just there bank roll.
When the Wildcats can get enough interest in their club to form a B team they should hope they can bring it to the level of the Ajax team. Makes for a pretty strong club. You don't have to be number one at your club if you are from another region.
6:16 pm i would say about 75%, so you may be good.
11:50 really,?. Storm is #1 in the State and #2 in the Nation. Ajax is #2 in the State and #11 in the Nation. Good luck in the "Town Team Cup". Will they be using 6' Pugg goals?
PDA has 3 of the top 5-6 teams in the state. Even if the best girls from Ajax and Dragons are fortunate enough to move up to Storm (which has been going on every year), they not only still have good teams they have also gotten better. New girls have come to both of these teams. I think all 3 teams are much improved over last season. Again, even after their best players moved up to Storm.
The funny part of this whole thing is that when the college recruits come all the best players in the area could walk on to PDA Storm and will be taken in in a heartbeat and all of you chirpers are going to be broke and out in the cold.Wake up, good to great players can get great training and high level games at other academies/clubs for a fraction of the cost and will still be the ones to get the looks when it counts.So just because your players have PDA on their shirts doesn't make them the best around. Its just what they have for the moment.Once the better players jump on board in the 11th hour, the current players are toast.
8:34wishful thinking..Stats show lots of girls come to tryouts over the years but only 1 ,Maybe two are chosen--some years no body is chosen.Its u13.. we all know who the better girls in the state are at this point. There aren't that many that could crack starting line-up at this point. Maybe 3 or 4 in the whole state. Rest would not be taken.So unless you are one of the 3 maybe 4 . You have no shot.. Don't believe me.. Come on down give it a shot, we welcome the competition. After all we compete every day for our spots.
Who cares about college coaches, are you kidding? These girls are only 12-13 years old. No college coaches are looking now at them. You parents are delusional. I'm sure the PDA coaches told you that so they get your money. Wait another 3 years and maybe that will happen. Until then save your money and stick with TRAINING and don't worry so much about winning.
You are the delusional one.They are starting to groom the girls at U14 for college recruits and beginning to form soccer resumes and videosDon't believe me, just look at what all the id camps are doing and when they are doing it.and mark my words, the current PDA team will look completely different in two years
Tthe PDA teams will look different. New girls will come and others will develop over the next coup of years. But the teams will always be strong. There are no assurances given anyone on PDA. Most parents know that. As you said some are delusional. But that's is the case everywhere. So if you don't make the Storm, the other 3 teams will still be some of the best teams in the state and country. No doubt.
I've posted this beforehttp://www.d1soccerrecruiting.com/ecnl-and-the-college-recruiting-process-what-does-the-data-reveal/According to this article, ECNL is ultimately the place to be if you want to increase your odds of playing soccer in college.And yeah, my guess is that at least half of the current Storm roster will be displaced by U17. But for those girls that get cut eventually, they will reap the benefit of consistently competitive practice, and consistently strong competition in games. They will be better players than if they were facing lesser competition. They will have been pushed, which I think is a good thing.All players have a ceiling, but many will never get close to that ceiling without being pushed. Consistently tough competition is the best way to get near to that ceiling.
Wildcats 8 Ajax 2
Well said, 9:46This is why a team playing to a .500 record - or even sub .500 - but in highest flights/leagues - can be doing their players a tremendous SERVICE, moreso than a team winning more games but not playing the best competition.In the end the development does not always tie in directly with the win %This applies when comparing the PDA teams to other top tens in the state.Similar trainingSimilar dollarsSimilar competition (yes, non ECNLs play ECNLs in tournaments and friendlies)New Jersey soccer thrives across the board.
"an ECNL club is 5.82 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a goalkeeper to a D1 schoolan ECNL club is 4.14 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a goalkeeper to a Top 25 D1 schoolan ECNL club is 4.30 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a forward to a D1 schoolan ECNL club is 4.28 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a forward to a Top 25 D1 schoolan ECNL club is 5.73 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a midfielder to a D1 schoolan ECNL club is 6.26 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a midfielder to a Top 25 D1 schoolan ECNL club is 6.11 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a defender to a D1 schoolan ECNL club is 7.87 times more likely than a non-ECNL club to send a defender to a Top 25 D1 school"As per the stats in the article, EcNL is not the only way- It is just the best way. And I don't know of very many parents that would not want the odds in their favor.Play wherever you want-It's your money and your child, I am going to have my child play where she has the best odds.
Are there numbers for:Player getting 20 minutes or less per game on an ECNL team?How does this compare with a player getting near full time on a pretty strong NPL squad?In other words:Is it ALWAYS better to be ECNL? Arent there some midtier players who may not be better off at an ECNL program?Confidence breeds through time on the field.
10:03I will assume your daughter plays quite a few minutes.
THANK YOU 10:14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:14That is a good point. My point is for girls that get at least 50% playing time.Less than that then other options for developing to maximum potential may be necessary.I too am not a proponent of the 19-24 player roster.And my daughter plays all the time.
I'm the one who posted the link above, but I agree, playing time trumps being on an ECNL roster.I also believe rosters should be capped at 18. Move players up from the B team if you have some injuries.
10;30Good point as well.Using the second team as fill ins and ability to play in games because they have earned it, is a much better system for the club and gives the deserving few , a chance to show themselves.
Come on parents !! Best odds at what? You really think your daughters are getting a full ride scholarship at all? Just playing on ECNL team ? Be serious ! Maybe 1 or 2 girls will get some sort of scholarship for soccer. She will be better off getting an academic scholarship. All that money put out over the years for the brand clubs could pay for the college tuition for at least 2 years.
"Full ride scholarship" has been jettisoned as a proper phrase to use on this blogIt has been established that soccer will (potentially) help our daughters in getting into the school of her choice.If there are financial implications, all the better.
"All that money put out over the years for the brand clubs could pay for the college tuition for at least 2 years."So sorry, honey, rec soccer is only $125 a season, and we are saving for college, you know.I think we've long since established that people are free to spend their money as they see fit. If you want to say, "I like everything about it, but the price is too steep" then I respect that.
If I pay $2500/year for 6 years, that's $15,000. I'm sorry, my friend. That won't cover a SEMESTER at most colleges. If I have the disposable income to provide my daughter with this training, what does it matter to you? And I'm still not expecting that this is going to be an investment that I'll see returned back to me in the form of an athletic scholarship. If she gets any money at all for soccer, great. I'm counting more on academic money, anyway. Because not only is my daughter likely a better soccer player than yours, but she's likely smarter than your daughter, too. Doesn't it burn you up inside to know that there are people who have more than you? Why don't you tell us some more how dumb we are for wasting our money. I'll be over here not caring about your opinion.
People throw the $$ figures out there, but have you had any other children in other sports? Dance, hockey, and many others are more $$ than soccer.
Well said 11:48 ....And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hateBaby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shakeI shake it off, I shake it off
I think that person was talking about the "college recruits" comments, it was not directed toward all parents. Don't get your panties in an uproar. BTW I'm sure most posting on here are parents that have daughters playing on one of these teams so they are not playing rec soccer. Some postings are hysterical and people getting pissed off so easily is funny.
Wow 11:48..nice guy aren't you? Something tells me you're not giving any of that disposable income to charity at all. You also didn't account for the money spent on travel. You're so lucky to have so much disposable income to be able to shove it in people's faces. Bet you live in a nice big house, your non-working wife wears lots of flashy diamonds and you drive some big gas guzzling pretentious car. I wish I was you.
wow 12:37 what a presumptuous tool you are. Stop being so jealous.
If I had half of 11:48's money, I could throw my money away.
I'm 11:48am. My point is that what I do with my money and why I do it is truly, 100%, none of your business, and for you to speculate and comment on it says a lot more about you than it does about me. 12:37pm, I gather that you don't know a lot of wealthy people and form your opinion of them based on villainous characters in whatever campy soap opera you watch in the afternoon. Money doesn't equal heartless anymore than being poor would mean you're compassionate and warm-hearted.
Again! Well said 11:48/1:32
One of my kids does Karate, it's over 4K a year. Right now soccer all in is less than 3K. I told the one doink Karate, your choice college or Karate. jk.
10:14 The article post said ECNL"CLUB" not "TEAM"
Top Teams from WAGS and EDP October Tournaments using GS Rankings WAGS CUP Flight 12 Teams9 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)20 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)25 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) 35 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)45 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA) 46 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) 49 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)56 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)74 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)76 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) 100 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN) 109 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)WAGS Flight A Top 866 PA CREW ACADEMY BLUE (PAW) 68 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 75 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE) 89 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE) 95 VICTORY EXPRESS SC VICTORY EXPRESS PLATINUM (PAW) 105 ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ) 106 MARYLAND UNITED FC U13 ECNL (MD) 116 PHWM SC PUMAS (MD) EDP CUP Top 8 GS Teams15 Atletico FC Girls '0130 FSA FC U13 Girls Elite 0139 STA Morris United NPL 0140 CES Calvert Crew White73 TSF Academy 01/02G83 SABA Brooklyn City90 FSA FC U13 Girls Pre-ECNL 01118 Jersey Premier Soccer Flash
11:48/1:32 no money doesn't equal heartless but obnoxious bragging comments do!
I have asked this before, what does STA stand for?In relation to the soccer club, and please no stupid second tier comments, I am begging you.I just want to know, cannot find an answer on Google.
Sonesoccer Training Academy.
You might hear some say, Skill Technique and Attitude.. but the name of the club originated from Sonesoccer Training Academy.
What does the NFL and MFA have in common?
Spend your money however you want. The only push back you will get from me is if you imply that a place on an expensive sxclusive team makes your child a better player than a talent that cant afford it. Money cant buy talent motivation and grit. If only it could.
7:12- Both are cash generating machines??
Since you have so much money to just throw away why worry about getting a college scholarship?You said yourself you have money to burn.There should be no reason to worry about getting recruiter looks.
Town Team State Cup Rules1. A parent from each team will be required to bring a team snack2. The coach will be allowed on the field with his/her players.3. They will use Pugg goals. (Please keep your kids from hanging or playing in the goals).4. All players will be required to wear cleats and shinguards.5. This event is about having fun. Everybody will be declared State Cup Champion.
7:36The only thing that comes to mind every time you post those stupid comments is that it is really killing you that your daughters team is not in it. I really don't get your animosity towards the cup line up. Who are you trying to offend and why?? Your posts are coming off as childish jealousy. Leave it alone. It's nobody's fault that your team is not in it for whatever reason but no need to put down the others.
Sorry I meant 7:56
8:06- Your right.... I wish my daughter was 5 yrs old playing soccer again. Thank you for helping me realize where all the anger is coming from.Have fun at Chucky Cheese for your team party, wish I was going.
You prove my point perfectly!Stupid is as stupid does!
8:15. We will !!!!!Remember, You have to be in it to win it!Later loser
@1225...."You have to be in it to win it!"Can you please define "it"? You think winning a State Cup with a severely diminished field of top teams will be some sort of major accomplishment? How do you even call that a tournament? The PDAs, MF's of the world have long moved on & thankfully my daughter is on that ride right now.
Yeah it really seems liked you've moved on. All you do is post and post some more about the cup. Later loser
Enjoy the "it" tournament !!!
& try not to get knocked out in first round like you did in Spring, that wasn't good & lit up this blog for weeks. Rest of us who have moved on don't want to go through that again. Thanks! LOL
Now I get it! You have it out for one team. Really showing your weakness. Do they bother you that much that you have to monitor and put down every move the team makes. Not to be redundant but that is such a loser move.
Just for the record a state cup is a state cup - there is never a disclaimer *** State cup winner but these teams never showed up. A state Cup is a State Cup Title regardless of who played. All your kids can control is who they play. They can't control who thinks the state cup is great or not.I agree you are not in "it" then don't knock it down the winner of this year's state cup will go down as a State Cup winner in he record books and that's all that matters to those kids playing (and parents)
Oh yeah, then they advance to the Region 1 Tournament and a shot at a USYSA National Title.Easy road or not they still have to play and they still need to win.
NO NPLS scores posted on the sites yet. Below are some Pre-ECNL scores.4 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL2 FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL11 Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 2 FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNLEast Meadow vs PennFusion not reported.
Teams like CRUSH live for this. The only tournaments they have chance of winning and will post it everywhere if they do. Still have the 2011 indoor state cup tournament on website like it was a real state cup. Sad, but true.
11-0 ouch, don't feel so bad anymore.
East Meadow 0 Penn fusion 1
Yo, bitter white-guy, why you be hating on Crush, they are nice peeps!
S0 4:49 you don't display your kid's medals? If she does, do you tell her they mean nothing to her face?They should display them on their website and they should be proud of their girls. They played and came home the best that day.
That Breaker teams scored 19 in 2 games. Did they add players, does anyone know? I thought the FC Stars team was solid and they dropped 8 on them last week. I bet this one could have been worse than 11-0.
After Saturday's gamePTs (GP)10 (4) MF Pre-ECNL9 (3) PDA Pre-ECNL7 (4) East Meadow7 (4) PennFusion6 (2) Boston6 (4) Albertson1 (2) WC0 (4) Continental FC0 (3) FC Bucks0 (2) FC StarsN/A FSAN/A Connecticut FC
Saturday's NPL Action4 PDA North 01 NPL3 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPLLooked like a battle and PennFusion very much alive for the Post Season.0 Boston Breakers Academy 01 NPL0 Continental FC 01 NPLCFC from PA got their 1st pts.1 FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL 6 Match Fit Academy 01 NPLNJ Cup Champion keeps rolling.PTS (GP)10 (4) MF10 (4) PDA North9 (3) PDA South6 (4) PennFusion3 (3) Albertson2 (2) Boston1 (3) FC Bucks1 (2) FC Stars1 (3) WC1 (4) CFC (PA)N/A CFC (CT)N/A FSA
How many teams in post season for npl and pre ecnl?
NE NPL posted. Looks like both PDA teams and MF will battle it out for the division. Not much other competition except possibly the Connecticut teams who haven't played yet.
Crush have won a tournament each year they have played......Facts.
I think Crush are the only team to have beaten (if they have played) every one of the supposed top 5.
Stay of other clubs websites. Its downright creepy, given that you are a grown man and these are very young girls.Thanks
It sounds like the orange are living in the past, no?
Only thing creepy lady is that you would have those thoughts. Go check yourself into a mental ward.
Wow! PDA and/or Matchfit parents very bitter that their clubs didn't enter state cup and allow their daughters a chance to win the cup and advance to regionals.But shouldn't you comp[lain to your clubs?Why are you blaming the clubs that entered the competition.After all the teams that entered are prepared to play whoever else signs up to play.Kind of strange for the teams who don't put themselves on the line and enter the competition to attack the teams that do. As the man said you have to be in it to win it.
12:17 I agree and weren't those 2 teams the same ones telling us in the spring that state cup trumps league games, tournaments and everything else?Now winning a State Championship and a trip to Regionals is a joke?Why because you didn't enter.Pulease!
Dopey. Ecnl playoffs a little bit of a different level than state cup. Relax and enjoy it. Should be fun for your kids now that the talent has come down a level.
Stop already, you are the same team you were 3months ago playing the same teams you have played in league and tournaments and just because you throw some letters at the end of the team name doesn't make you Ivy League Get off your high horse dude. Your arrogance and narrow minded thinking is a bad combination.
I think the comments posted are seemingly directed at the Wildcats in anticipation of them having success in this years sc. That feud is constant and will continue forever... much to our boredom.My daughters team is unfortunately one of the teams not participating and it is disappointing that all the top teams will not be in it. I was the original poster who said the field is thin, but not to take anything away from who eventually wins just making an objective observation that the cup will not have the beef it has in years past. If you are not in it you can't complain and really give up your right to criticize. The teams in it can only play who is in the bracket and the winner will be state champs.Good luck to all. It should be wide open but a few favorites should represent in the semis.
As per the State Cup rules. Winners will be decided by the following criteria:1. Most team spirit2. Best costume3. Biggest pumpkinRemember, everyone is a winner in this years State Cup.
Its now official, no Match Fleece or PDA in the State Cup.Two Match Fleece teams knocked out of SC in the first round. Manalapan beats the Jaguars again in a first round matchup..
You have mastered the ecnl superiority complex well. But you are forgetting you should not sully yourself by posting on this silly little blog. You have more important and serious things to do.
Simply stating that the talent pool in the state cup is way inferior to the last few years. A simple and true statement. Why get so defensive?
Are you aware of the distinction between "simply stating" and obnoxious mockery?
Really looking forward to seeing the Boston v MF result today. Maybe a MF parent could post their thoughts too?In the "I Told You So" department, the PA ECNL teams are in over their heads, with the exception of Penn Fusion. ConFC has not scored a goal yet. -PA Guy
PDA and MF are not stand out by any means.Can't wait until Boston shows them how it's doneEcnl that !
Wildcats SWEPT PDA in spring.3 shutout wins to boot.Not surprising they didn't enter.Doesn't look good when a TOWN TEAM SWEEPS your superior talent.HEY PDA ANY TIME, ANY FIELD, ANY of your TEAMS. Just call and we will will be there.Better tell your little Suzies to strap in on tight though.We won't hold our breath.If you opt out of playing state cup you can't very well throw stones.
Problem is you have no access anymore. Sorry. And the teams are another level up since then..... Sorry.
The SC in the Spring had the best teams in NJ fighting for a championship. All of them. No league last year had all the best teams.
Remember wildcats, no matter what happens in next few years. You had them at u12!
0-1 this year
Boston not same team from FC Stars. Added many studs, they were dominate on field yesterday
Wildcat parents are great, last season whenever everyone pointed out beating Wildcats was irrelevant since it was last season and teams change, now those same Wildcat parents are grasping onto PDA wins from last season, while choosing to ignore they got beat by Ajax 4 weeks ago....Priceless
I believe Match fit will be playing them to day. It will be interesting to gauge how good they are against this team.
9:41 from South Shore?, NEFC? They just don't come out of thin air, do you know?Don't worry Wildcats just win your EDL NPL and you'll have a shot at MF or PDA South/North NPLs is they win theirs and of course they will say it's an easy road for you, but at the end of the day you will be at the NPL Finals - just play your game and don't overlook anyone.PA guy, it's not that ConFC and FC Bucks that over stepped they are doing the right thing putting their teams in the right leagues- it just looks like PA is more about the individual teams - kind of the town team mentality with okay coaching. We don't need that Stinking ECNL when we have PAGS and ODP and then go down south to WAGS and JEFFERSON plus DELCO and SPIRIT in our own back yard, right. You would know better.I also agree with 8:39 yes some of the Bigger brand teams are not in the event this, but so what does it really matter?I also want to see that MF vs Boston result, we know MF parents/coaches are on the board - please share your thoughts on the game if you like or that Boston team - looks really good 19 in the back of the net in 2 games and who knows how many they missed?
Wildcats are the favorite to win SC. But don't count out STA. A much improved team from the Spring. And TSF is capable if bearing those teams as well.
I'm just calling it like it is. Here we go, lets try to understand this. Of the top 20 teams in NJ for u13 girls, per Gotsoccer points, only 7 are in the State Cup National tournament this fall. ONLY 7 OUT OF 20. That says it all...
The Wildcat crowd too funny & frankly embarrassing themselves once again. @ 901 are you being serious? What happened in Ajax game at Spirit? From what I heard & read your team was totally outplayed. & lets not forget BOCA last Spring in State Cup, ouch!
Definition of selective memory:"reception or retrieval of only some of the events in an experience."Hmmmmmmmmmm. LOL.
All the ecnl teams care about is the ecnl. It is that simple.Parents are happy their kids play for this league.The experience is great for the kids.NPL shares the same experience
Ajax was consolation game.wildcats played their subs whole game after jumping on top 1-0 early over ajax.You are too clueless to even understand what happened in that game.As far as Ajax, they are much improved with a few new players from Rage and will be a tough out for everyone this year.We look forward to competing with their fine team again soon.The REAL games at spirit were the bracket games on saturday, and the semi's and finals for the teams that advanced. Wildcats tied for 1st in their bracket, and lost a chance to advance sat morning in a shootout vs legacy,while ajax lost saturday and ware eliminated saturday .As far as playing strong competition and being left behind let's examine that:Funny so many of the top teams from around the country, including MANY pre-ecnl teams are in Cup Flight at WAGS with Wildcats.Funny FC Virginia and the other pre-ecnl teams haven't stopped entering the traditional high level tournaments.could it be PDA and MatchFit are the only ones trying to get away from playing their non-ecnl competition among the top teams.Face it pda and matchfit, with Storm and Falcons your club leadership will avoid wildcats at all costs.Falcons were listed in Matchfit tourney applied teams this spring until Wildcats applied then they mysteriously drooped out.No one is fooled.Seems these other states ecnl clubs don't have the same fear to compete.If you are really better, prove it on the field, not by claiming you are moving on and avoiding your in-state competitors because you are too good to play them. Come on man, not 1 of the 3 pda teams had a winning record vs wildcats in the last year, none of the matchfit teams either, Wildcats are.500 or better vs all of the pda and MF teams this past year.Wildcats 3 bracket games at WAGS Cup Flight and league matchup with calvert constitute tougher 4 games than anything ne npl will offer celtic, ajax or dragons this spring.Why didn't those teams enter WAGS and challenge their teams to best teams from in and out Region 1 like Wildcats are doing. After all those 3 teams are not playing pre-ecnl.Oh yeah I forgot, pda dragons are too busy attending RANDOLPH Tourney Columbus Day weekend.I am sure that will be very challenging and great for "Development", LOL.Main thing to pda is no out of state travel and no expemnses for coaches hotel, gas, tolls and food leaving more dragons dues to use for more storm scholarships to recruit players from outside the club.Keep writing those big checks and believing all the bs they are blowing your way weekend.
Storm parents to wildcats: not we will "get you next time", but "ha ha we will not play you again"?Oh that really hurts.
Does anyone know about NextGenUSA or the ETC and TIP programs affiliated with it?
Everyone just play and the cream will rise to the top. It always does.
PDA doing plenty of travel to play Pre-ECNL and NE NPL teams. Wildcats are a good team, nobody denying that but don't come on here complaining you can't play them. Play your games and some point you will meet up with them again. But be careful what you wish for. All three are much improved from last season and getting better. And will be better next year and so on.
Didn't MF head to NPL finals same weekend that you are referring to?
Well said 114, couldn't agree more...
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agreed wildcats are much improved with some significant pickups since last season , as are 3 pda teams. Don't know if celtic and falcons improved their rosters since last spring.Yes, anyone of those teams could win on a given day. Just don't understand the bragging that you are not going to play them anymore.How does that prove you are better team? It can only be settled on the field.
Ajax 3-1 win this season proves it!
Hold on to that because it's all you've got. Will be watching PDA to see if they can back up all this talkBetter not speak to soon or too often about how great you are.
Clearly Wildcats are frustrated, can not accept fact they are in rear view mirror & are faced with a must win in every State Cup tournament this Fall with 13 of the State's top 20 teams not even participating. Very good team I admit, but so much non-sense, baggage & silly bravado.
You mean the nonsense and bravado That is clearly coming from you. You are the one that can't seem to drop the SC topic and are living off a consolation gameToo funny!!!!
Ajax 0-3 in Jeff Cup Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Usually teams that want to claim status as best in their state want to take on all comers and prove it on the field.PDA and MF seem to take pride in not having to play against and challenging themselves against the competition by avoiding playing against them.Then bragging about how they sidestepped that challenge and team.Not sure how that proves anything.
ne npl teams say they don't need WAGS Cup Flight and other top tournies because they will face plenty of tough comp in npl.Other than the 2 games vs each other who will ajax, dragons and celtic play other than B teams in npl from clubs who don't have a strong B team.
not to worry wildcats you wont be playing any of pda's new additions.The north already scooped them up.Even though girls on the team for years have been told they will be movin' on up.Maybe next year.Thats IF new better players don't come over.Everyone knows what team pda looks out for and sadly its not Ajax.But parents please continue to send in your checks.Since the new talent is not paying a dime and our coaches still need to paid.
12:35. Beating PDA means way too much for you and your program to take that game as serious as any important tournament game. Stop with the "consolation game" crap. It's insulting to anyone with intelligence. You played, you lost, move on.
9:14 AMMatch Fit Falcons did not play spring State CupIt was therefore "watered down" - and an empty crown - sorry
Let's just see how the fall league and tournaments turn out. Then we will talk. Until then Good Luck!
NYSC goes to 2-0 in NYCSL NPL Division.Team to beat til they falter.....(3-2 over STA, 1-0 over Quickstrike)
NYSC has not played Crush yet, the favorite to win the division.
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