EVERYONE knows that team and understands the difference in talent level. Does not take a rocket scientist! BUT they have all contributed in some way in their success. Until you pass them with your own success, try to show some respect.
That was my first comment, not in this fight about your team and could care less. I just think u are an idiot and glad I'm not on your team. Do yourself a favor, go away.
Just desperate to put your ignorant ass into place. Please let us know why your team deserves more praise.
The problem is that they now look average as size does not matter any more. Girls have caught up with the physicality part of the game.
Funny you ask me to go away yet you were the one coming on here knocking a particular team. Shut your mouth until you prove something and have something of substance to write. Then there would be no reason for this back and forth.
So you get smoked 3-0 in the last two meetings and catch a 0-0 tie this time. That is what you are basing your comments off of? Really? Talk about desperate...... see you at the end of the seaon. Hope you grab some more ties on the way. Comical.
Good luck MF - you have some real nice parents - this guys must be a real pleasure on sidelines every week. I'm sure most of you know who he is by now - all class.
The only reason we tied is because my daughter and only five other girls are decent. When we cut the rest of these losers, we will start winning again.
Different parent here.NjX - I have watched your team numerous times in past two years. You can't honestly believe that your better days are ahead of you?Looking at the current soccer landscape, it is pretty apparent that your team has reached the " tipping point"Can you see it?When is the last time you were able to play keep away from a team. Ask yourself, if your team ever played keep away. This simple game requires skill.I will bet you your team has never done this before.That should tell you something.The team is athletic but exhibits very little skill on the field.I hope you can see that so that you can get to a place that improves your daughters skill level.I'm not hating on the NJX parents and kids, I'm hating on the coaches.Shame on them, wasting such talent.
Keep deflecting your comments of how this team is done. That is the main point here. The negativity. Stop the bashing and hate tough guy.The two blended MF teams in ecnl and ne npl will be in a much better situation than most come 2014. You guys will have a pool of 30 for each fighting to even get on a roster to get on the field next year. I know..... that is sooooo much better. Go stir the kool aid!
I agree this team will not last but that is the point. They accomplished more than just about all until now. The talent and teams withing MF will split next year and form two teams. All of these top teams are changing and or have already changed themselves. Why is it such a shock that this team will eventually go through the same thing? Not necessarily a bad thing, right?
Why I am reading "MY team" and 'YOUR team".Aren't our kids playing these u13 soccer games?
einstien-Your team and MY team is used the same way you would say Your Giants or Your Jets.My teams are :Giants , Yankees, Nets, and my daughters soccer teamI have more of a personal attachment to my daughters team than other team because my daughter plays for the them.They are my team.
I also have a favorite College basketball team.They are also my team.
Isn't is Giants Yankees Knicks? ??? How did Nets get in there?? Lol.biggest problem with the blog is the negativity. You can say your team is better and make your case but why do some feel the need to knock the others?? Makes no sense people.
9:59 hey pal never said I was a rocket scientist. But I am a soccer fan and my daughter's team is HER team not mine.
NE Pre-ECNLPenn Fusion SA 01 Pre-ECNL vs FC Bucks 01 Pre-ECNLAlbertson SC 01 Pre-ECNL vs East Meadow SC 01 Pre-ECNLContinental FC 01Pre-ECNL vs Match Fit Academy 01 Pre-ECNLWorld Class FC 01 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNLBoston Breakers Academy 01 Pre-ECNL vs FC Stars of Mass 01 Pre-ECNLNE NPLPenn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs FC Bucks 01 NPLAlbertson SC 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPLBoston Breakers Academy 01 NPL vs FC Stars of Mass 01 NPLWorld Class FC 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPLContinental FC 01 NPL vs Match Fit Academy 01 NPLDoes anyone have any scores? Heard that WC vs FC Bucks was rained out.
Sorry meant scores from last weekends games.Unofficial ScoresNE Pre-ECNLN/A Continental FC 01 Pre-ECNL vs Albertson SC 01 Pre-ECNL0-2 Penn Fusion SA 01 Pre-ECNL vs PDA 01 Pre-ECNLN/A Match Fit Academy 01 Pre-ECNL vs East Meadow SC 01 Pre-ECNLN/A FC Bucks 01 Pre-ECNL vs World Class FC 01 Pre-ECNLNE NPLN/A Continental FC 01 NPL vs Albertson SC 010-1 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL vs PDA South 01 NPLN/A FC Bucks 01 NPL vs World Class FC 01 NPL0-0 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs PDA North 01 NPL
worldclass 1 Penn fusion 1
Matchfit ecnl vs east meadow tied 0-0Matchfit ecnl vs albertson- 1-0 matchfitMatchfit npl vs albertson - 4-0 matchfit
NE pre ECNLContinental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL2 PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLFC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNLWorld Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLContinental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLEast Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLFC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNLPDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
NE NPLContinental FC 01 NPLAlbertson SC 01 NPL0 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL1 PDA South 01 NPLFC Bucks 01 NPLWorld Class FC 01 NPL0 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL0 PDA North 01 NPL FC Bucks 01 NPLPDA South 01 NPL4 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL0 Albertson SC 01 NPLContinental FC 01 NPLPDA North 01 NPLPenn Fusion SA 01 NPLWorld Class FC 01 NPL
NE pre ECNL0 Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL0 Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL4 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL1 FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL6 PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNLNE NPL0 Continental FC 01 NPL1 Albertson SC 01 NPL0 FC Bucks 01 NPL0 World Class FC 01 NPL0 FC Bucks 01 NPL5 PDA South 01 NPL0 Continental FC 01 NPL3 PDA North 01 NPL3 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL2 World Class FC 01 NPL
Look at all the inbalance and one sided scores in all these leagues.Soccer players and especially their parents are getting hosed.This is all about $$$ for academies and leagues as clearly best thing for development of the elite players is all the top teams by Track record, not club affiliation should be in the top flight of the same league as in this past springs EDP top division.the same way they flight tournaments.Show me a ecnl, npl or edl top flight with nearly the quality or balance of edp north and central last year.We are getting hustled big time.
And look no further than the PDA Girls DOC/Rutgers head Coach to see who masterminded this swindle.
Unfortunately this year is a necessary evil for next year to happen. Once these programs get their final ECNL and NE NPL for next season, there will be plenty of balance. But as for this year, you are correct. Some good, some bad....
Did floaters play on PDA teams this past weekend? Sad that they don't trust girls on one team to win for that team they were chosen for. Have to borrow other girls to make the lower team look good? LOL I guess plenty of ball hogs then huh?
All the academies will have the floaters when needed.......
Thanks 12:50 I did not know they did that, learn something new every day.
But PDA will tell you they do not.... Lol!
12:46.It is obvious that your daughter plays for one of the town teams. Enjoy the experience.
Match Fit NPL players will not play with Match Fit Black and vice versa (excepting the one kid who plays with 3 teams)I dont expect it much from PDA either. I think the goalkeeper situation is an exception. Dont think you will see Storm field players with Dragons.
It's amazing how this MF Black team is suppose to be so good but in their first tournament they asked for the former GFA player to play with them. What is going on over there at MF? Seems to be a mess. She left GFA to be closer to home and now MF Black is after her.
so soo SOOO NOT true, next. 50 Mile NCAA guy are you out there?
LOL.. 2:40You need to get out more.Both players have significant limitations.Both have been cultivated by daddy Coaches and have a "me mentality" that does not translate to the more mature game.
Get out more, why?I make perfectly good jokes without stepping outside.Glad you laughed.
Agreed. ....Lots of wonderful unselfish players in the Region.I know of two right off the bat. I love their game.I would like my daughter to play more like them.And remember best players do not have to be offensive scorers. They can be defenders and facilitators with high IQs. Players that make the whole team better.
Hotshots midfielder is in a different class.
So what. Every team has a go to player from the pros to the average joes. I am a poet. LOLEM, GFA, Manalapan, RAGE, NJX , Crush and every other team has their hotshot. What is the big deal jealous parents? My kid was once the best player of her team and now there are 2-3 better players here. So what.
I disagree Daddy. Seen her play many times.Great skills - Low soccer IQ.She benefits from having been focal point of Daddy run team.Can name several girls I would rather have here in NJ , Pa and Massuchetts. She would not be my first choice or third choice if I was starting a team.But she does have some fancy skills!
No I mean she is in a different class. She goes to school in NY..
2:54 you are dead wrong about the East Meadow player. The kid passes quite well.But she knows how to finish and WHEN.
4;11I didn't say she couldn't pass the ball.She is a very good player she is just a Me first player that demands to be focal point in a daddy run system.She just not my first choice as a player that makes the whole team better.Like a said, I know player very well.
Just love this article I came across on the internet: "What do Argentina’s Lionel Messi and Diego Maradona and Brazil’s Pele have in common besides being international superstars and most likely in the Top 10 list of all-time soccer greats? They are all short.» Messi is 5′ 6.5″» Maradona is 5′ 5″» Pele is 5′ 8″I hate it when I hear coaches place so much emphasis on size and height. Emphasis on speed I can understand. I also think height is important for a goalie. But to dismiss or overlook a player because of his/her physical stature is a huge mistake. Size does not matter!Over the years, I have found many reasons why size is not important:» Shorter players have a lower center of gravity, making it much easier to dribble, make fakes and feints, and change direction.» Never underestimate the toughness of a short player. These players are usually tougher and more physical than taller players.» Before the age of 14 or 15, headers play a very insignificant part in a soccer game. Being able to out-jump someone for a header is of little value.Regarding headers; height does help; no doubt about it. But so, too, do timing and jumping ability." Wish this person was coaching or training here in NJ!
My kid has played against her many times and I think you are wrong. Kids is a player and the ball now goes through her because she creates. Has become way more unselfish now. She looked good at FC Stars. Not many others at this age group better than her right now......
4;30You have no argument from me .
Ask FC Atletico what they think of her, and her Dad...They probably want to play against the Hotshotz every week.she shoots,she scores!
You guys are too funny.You do realize that Matchfit and PDA have older players that are on the National team that you never hear about because these parents are extremely discrete and they are surrounded with tremendous D1 players at the older ages.These players are integrated with the team and it becomes a team game.Right now what you are seeing is youth soccer where the father was the coach and put their daughters in the middle of the action.They are good players but lots of campaigning going on here. I suspect some by the parents.One day one or both Maybe national team players along with the few playing on other high level teams. But then again probably not. Too many bad habits that need to be brokenI have much more respect those players playing on elite teams that are not on this forum.I absolutely know of 3 players that these two players cant even touch at this age group.So please stop campaigning for your daughters.It is getting very tiresome.
She'll be carded more as she moves up the ladder - and has shown to be overemotional when she is carded/warned.I cant recall if she checks back well defensively. May be more striker in the future than center mid.
Only issues at MF comes from NPL teamGFA girl will end up playing for ECNL team, as she should.ECNL team competes vs higher level teams. She needs to be challenged, this is where she needs to play personally
Aren't we NOT supposed to be talking about individual players here? Grow up, people.Or maybe you should name your own kid, team and number and we can all take cracks at her too.
Didn't matchfit and east meadow just tie-0-0.Not so much offensive fire after all. Lets here it for the defense on both these teams.I am looking forward to the match-ups between Matchfit and PDA. and East meadow.
5:13.There is all this stuoid discussion about which players stands out on which team wheter it be matchfit or east meadow, etc, etc.And then there's PDA. An organization that is known for putting national team players at every age group.including on the womens national team.There is no boasting from these players or families.They are the real deal. The rest of this crap is BS.
And I repeat that there are and have never been any PDA position players playing up or down. Another silly comment. Goalies do back up each other when one is hurt or unavailable. That is not uncommon.
6:02 That's BS and you know it. They use floaters when they want to win because the teams below Storm need help. Admit it, I would respect you more. Don't be embarrassed, if you can get away with it, why not?.
Why would they flat out lie about that? If they did, I would be okay with it in some games, but they say they don't, so don't call bs unless you can prove it, can you?
I'm with PDA, the only time I have seen them do this is at older ages when they bring down some of their girls who play up an age in ecnl and they have big games. Other ecnl clubs do the same and why not? Every club would do the same if they could and had the players.
@6:51 can you tell us when this happened, u sound like you are in the know.
I think you mean 6:40. He can't find an example because it is not true. He is fishing against PDA all the time. He is the "50 Mike guy". And the "Ajax sucks" guy. Stop responding to his attempts to find anything he can against PDA.
Fact : PDA has 2 very good goalies at this age group. Instead of carrying 2 on Storm full time they are playing full games on either Storm or Dragons. Last Saturday the "Storm" goalie played with the Dragons and shutout NJX. The "Dragon" goalie played with Storm vs pre ECNL Penn Fusion and shut them out. This is a fact. NJX don't flatter yourself and think PDA is using better players to outplay you. It's called depth and development. You might want to google those 2 terms.
If you are going to call bs on someone, then back it up please. Most men do.
Funny stuff, where is 640 @?
Ignore NJX, they all got duped by Match Fleece. They were promised a lot of things and only 1 thing was true. Your next payment is due!!!!"Mama says Stupid is what stupid does". NJX got F Gumped!
Yes, NJX parents were sold a bill of goods and promised the world by Match Fleece DOC and their mommy coach swore to it because they told her she could stay on as coach if she kept them together through end of U13.All they wanted was another year of your dues $$$.
If I recall, PDA brought up a u11 player to play mf in the Srate Cup last fall. Desperately needed a central midfielder because they didn't have and player to do it. Did she go to regionals with you?
You recall well, could you do the same?No, because your u11 team blows and can not compete at town levels.
I see MF and EM tied. I would not say there was a lack of scoring punch. I would say 2 solid teams battling it out.EM dominated everyone up at FC Stars.Will be interesting watching Pre ECNLYou have BreakersMFPDAEMWC Penn FusionStarsbattling in this tough division
where is Rage playing?I have not heard sbout them in quite sometime.Would like to know how they perform this season and what league they are in.
No more Rage Freedom team. 11 girls gone. Rest playing with Rage Rampage and Rage Liberty as I hear it.
Pre -ecnl results for last weekhttp://nplnortheastgirls.demosphere.com/schedules/2014-15/71265040.html
Two most interesting games next week:Breakers vs. StarsWorld vs. PDA
New England NPL Action (week 1). 1 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY U13G0 AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 01 BLACK0 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY U13G5 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/023 OAKWOOD SC0 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/020 GPS-MA NPL6 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS
Development is letting your other goalie play in games for the experience. Not bringing in your top goalie to play for her...... Kind of sends the wrong message doesn't it? Go grab the kool aid for your response. Nobody has an issue with it. Just stop with the denial. They all do it, including your own club. Move on.....
Let me ask something. Unless you are PDA where else will you be in the top leagues next year? Sounds like there are some bitter people out there realizing that their programs will basically end after this year as all of the top kids will be in ecnl and npl. When the academies divide up their in house talent, grab a select few from outside and drop some, that is going to be the place you want to be. Spin it all you want, that is where you want to be. The kids who get dropped will be playing for your club. So how can you possibly say taking a shot at making one of those top teams is a bad move?? Called someone that is bitter and wishes they had that chance. I know, you still think your team, with all the leftover kids, will be a better team...... Come on man!
7:35Development is about sending a message that no one gets a free ride and that everyone has a chance to play for the top team in the club, by switching off goalies and hopefully eventually some players, it sends a strong message that you have to earn your spot. You are competing for your roster spot. Just because you have been in that position for last 3 years, it doesn't mean, the position is yours to keep.So you will compete and in this case, you will compete against a player on the second team who is pushing for her seat at the table on the first team. Nothing wrong with that, It should happen on every high level team. Matchfit ECNL players will have to compete with the NPL team for their place at the table this year. When girls are asked to stay home because a player from the NPL team will be playing, all hell is going to break out.
Totally agree with you when NPL players are brought up to "push" ECNL but not the other way..... What message do you send when bringing ECNL down to NPL? Aren't you saying you are not confident at that position??
Goalkeepers is a different story but I dont think rotating players is properYou have a tryout and choose a team for a reason.A second team player should be doing some amazing things with the second team before any thought is given to adding her - and when they do it should be because there is an open spot.Now - Match Fit might have a unique situation, in that their "B" team was State Cup Champs and top ranked in the state. But still.....decisions made after tryouts should be binding. The first wave of players to vie for more playing time should be those that won out in the tryout to be on the team in the first place - and may not have been getting time early onTaking a B team player and giving her minutes over a sub from the A team is bad form.
8:48Bottom of any roster is interchangeable in talent with top 4 girls of second team. Therefore, to change players out during season gives top 4 of B chance to play on the A team and show what they can do.The message you send to these players is that your spot is in jeopardy and you are going to have to work for it if you want it.Nothing wrong with that, it called competition and life.Go put on you big girl pants and compete.9:39This is no longer you fathers soccer league.US club has a very flexible club structure in order to prevent kids from being locked in to any one team over the course of the season. It allows those girls that are not cutting it on the first team to be able to play during the season on the second team and allows those girls who deserve a chance to be on the first to be able to come up during the year and not have to wait a full year to show what they can do. Its a club structure not a team structure.If you want your daughters spot to be safe for the year then go play with Non ecnl clubs.You need to realize this before you join an ecnl club.I personally think the club structure mimics the way its done around the world. Elite level soccer is for competition.
Your theory does not work when top A team ECNL players are put in B team NE NPL spots..... It works the other way but not this way.
Penn Legacy was clearly better than Penn Fusion when they played in Spirit semi.I watched the whole game and Legacy dominated.Which league does that Legacy team play in?
Sure it does:Us club structure permits any player to play anywhere, so if a team wanted to bring a player who is playing up down to play with on age team then so be it. The girl belongs to club, not to anyone team.If your point is that its unfair , My counter would be it would only be unfair if the club they were playing against didn't have the ability to do the same thing.Us club is about club against club, not team against team.If you join one of these clubs and leagues you have to realize this. From a practical matter very rarely have I seen a top A player play down to same age B team. At least not in my club. There are clubs who have A team players at the plder age groups that are allowed to play with B team in showcase tournaments to maximize college exposure because they may not be getting enough time on A team.Most A team players that play down to B team is because their spot is in jeopardy. I have seen A players who play up come down to play on Age with on age A team.Nothing is unfair if all clubs are allowed to do same thing.
PDA should have a tryout every week to determine who goes where-one big lump of players. Four teams at avg of 20 players.Can send emails friday night what game to report to.What a joke. They are just stringing the second team girls along
11:01it appears from Got Soccer that legacy and fusion have beaten each other over course of competition.Could it have been a bad game for Fusion?
11:15Not if those second team players are beating your team. i would say, they are doing just fine for exposure.
Penn Legacy plays in PAGS. Didn't play last weekend. They are a very good team.If there are 18 players on a roster, I have no issue with players 12-18 on the A team playing down and players 1-6 on the B team playing up (not including goalies...its good for goalies to play in back of both strong and weak teams and thus they should move freely between A and B teams). But it makes no sense for the best players on the A team to play down. That's crap.But the notion that "we had a tryout and now the A and B teams are set in stone and rosters cannot be adjusted midseason because, like I said, we had two 1.5 hour tryouts and that is more than enough time to assess talent and players don't change much over the course of a season anyway" is crap, too.The problem is NJX and Ajax are not true B teams. They are regional teams with players good enough to make the MF Black and PDA Storm teams. You're being disingenuous when you show outrage when a NJX or Ajax player plays on their respective pre-ECNL teams.
11:20We are in agreement.
Fusion had a bad game. But the reason they had a bad game was...wait for it...because Legacy put a beating down on them.It happens. For example, Fusion (WCUSC) beat Legacy 6-2 in the same tournament the year before. Both teams have added players, but the cores are the same.FWIW (not much on an anonymous board), I am a parent of a Fusion player. Legacy deserves their due. They kicked our tails that day. Kudos to them.
11:15 Who is the second team girls? Ajax or Dragons? So when a girl tries out for say Dragons, that doesn't mean they will always play for Dragons they may be told Friday that they will be playing for Ajax? I hope the families are told this prior to getting their money when signing onto the club.
Fusion parent, i assume you expect your team to bounce back against them the next time you play them?Or do you think that they are the better team?
11:28Very few will switch teams and I have never seen B to B.
So you bring your ECNL goalie down to NPL for the NPL's first game of the season. The NPL goalie did NOT go up to play for the ECNL team. You are correct in saying if they did do that, that is common practice. But they did not. The first game out they play with ECNL goalie for both ECNL game and NE NPL game. That is the way to do it? Please explain how that is developmental? Again not illegal in any way but stop with the rationalizing.....
Sounds like Dragons wanted a result vs NJXThat's OK. Is what it isLike I said - likely just the goalkeeper.
11:33 you are incorrect, please have somebody read 9/9 8:35PM post to you.
Like most competitive teams, I expect Fusion to be pretty psyched up to play Legacy next time. They may not win, but I don't think they'll lose 5-1 again. In any event, hopefully Fusion will be better competition next time.
11:33Checkmate.Goalies were switched: Dragons goalie played against Penn fusion and Storm goalie played against NJX.Now which game do you think the club was more worried about?The ECNL game or the NPL game?A chance to give two very good goalies the opportunity to compete.Nothing more or less.
So Ajax doesn't have a goalie?
I was told that PDA North has 3 goalies and the full time Dragon goalie is hurt.
It's hard to find goalies at this age level. Storm lucky to find 3 that want to play. Girls still want to play field at these ages. May get more goalies about age 17. Hope Solo didn't play goalie until about age 17, was a field player.
So Storm has 3 goalies, Dragons have more than 1. None for Ajax? I guess Ajax does not mean much to the PDA club, just money huh?
^^^^^^somebody hates PDA!
If your daughter commits to an ECNL team shouldn't the team/club do the same for the year? Injuries are another story.Like dropping of a corvette for anthe oil chamge and the dealer giving you back a mustang. Not what you paid or signed up for.
Dragons keeper is hurtStorm lent out a keeper for the gameNow we are getting somewhere
lol: keep trying.
Like I said - is what it isUsing childish acronyms announces you clearly to the boardBe a big boy and have a conversation
12:37I believe the question was asked and answered.The rest is just stirring the pot;See 12:04 , 11:36 .How many ways would you like the question answered?Would love to see a new topic besides PDA and Matchfit.
Let's discuss a real topic instead of bashing teams. What is the effect of 40 minute halfs on teams? And once you are subbed out you can't go back in the game for that half? Could be a problem for those teams that don't carry the full 18 girls.
What's the effect of girls playing the full 80 minutes. Tired girls and losses. And goals scored against the tired girls in the closing minutes
Whats the effect of only carrying 1 keeper? And the keepers parents having the biggest opinion about the other players. Animosity
There was a disagreement. One said Dragone keeper is out injured. How then did she play vs Penn?I am on your side. I dont see the big deal. I support keeper rotation any way you'd like to handle it.Players down from top team wouldnt fly with me, unless it was someone truly not getting any field time with the A team.I'd guess there will be less in season phone calling and e-mailing to kids parents from other clubs now that there are so many players for you guys to choose from.....heh - maybe not.
It's just the first half you cannot reenter a game, isnt it?
12;26When somebody commits to an ecnl team/club the only promises they should get is a chance to compete for a coveted spot. Nothing More.If you are good enough ,no issues, if not, would you rather sit the bench if team is not satisfied with players performance.
my daughter is a keeper. they are unusual creatures. They have to be fierce, no fear, accept scars on their legs, kicks in the face, hands/fingers stepped on and some of the high level teams have their strikers coming in full force, with cleats up. Hence why very few GK anytime anywhere. my daughter is only keeper on team. she has been with GFA, NJCSA and also stint with NJ Force back in day as guest keeper. I have seen her, "save" games, so stop 2-3 break aways, perhaps a good penalty shot here and there, and lets be honest, anyone who can keep a ball out of the net for 60-80 minutes at age 12/13 against girls pounding them, corner shots et al. give them much credit. and true about Solo, but when you really think about it who won World Cup with the "Sweeper Keeper" the best keeper is your best shot at really being the best.
@1:1012:04 has it right.
Here is a different goalie question of sorts.My daughter plays for a high level non ECNL team.She is best goalie on team and one of best field player.The last couple of years she has been playing more goalie than field because coach needs her there.My daughter has decided that she no longer wants to play goalie. We have recently told the coach but he says that he needs her there.she get some playing time on field about 25% in strategic situations and she does great. is it ok to give coach ultimatum about field play or is this considered against the "team" concept.I am trying to balance having my daughter being a good team player vs. pursuing her own desires.How would you handle if coach doesn't want to move her?
I think it is very rare to have a female u13 player who is both a good GK and good field player, that said, if she can, and wants to, she should play where she wants, you will probably have to leave the team, and start fresh.
What is Crush waiting until 9/21 to have their first NPL game, are they busy on a soccer world tour?
@1:55Should that apply at all positions or just the goalie?If Your daughter is an equally effective striker but Coach plays her as a defender and girl doesn't want to play defense, should she leave the team?When is team more important than the position your daughter wants to play?
Easy, the team is NEVER more important than your child.and anyone who says otherwise is being jerky.
2:03- When the team offers you a scholarship.
Being a field player is different than being a goalie. You are still developing as a field player if you are at center back, but not necessarily so if you are in goal. Had a similar situation with my daughter. Started out as a field player but was brave and tough at an early age and had great instincts. More and more time in goal became the norm. Was in the top half of the starting 11 as a field player as well according to coach but he needed her in goal. She absolutely hated goalie. Couldn't stand it. Finally had to tell the coach that he decided where she played on the field but I decided if she played for him. Team wasn't happy but in the long run, they were better off because they ended up getting a girl who wanted to be goalie and wanted to invest.
Your daughter CAN be a good field player and good goalie. 1:55 you must not know many athletic kids then. A true athletic child can play what ever position she is put into , AND be very, very good at them all. I have a son a daughter that is good at all positions on the soccer field and other sports. It is innate at times.
"Let's discuss a real topic instead of bashing teams. What is the effect of 40 minute halfs on teams? And once you are subbed out you can't go back in the game for that half? Could be a problem for those teams that don't carry the full 18 girls."We carry about 15 or 16 field players on our team. I think three of them played 80 minutes this past weekend (center defenders and a midfielder). The rest got variable time. About four other different players played 1.5 halves. Everyone else's minutes were 25 (starters) or 15 (bench) minutes per half.More than the fatigue issue is the substitution pattern issue. We are pre-ECNL, but we are not yet at the point where we roster 16 field players who are interchangeable as starters or bench players. We have 10 starters, one or two who could start, and then some bench players.We currently start our "starters". And then at about 25 minutes five bench players come in. Which is fine. Hasn't hurt us yet. But I'd still feel more comfortable if the coach started some bench players, gave them their minutes, and then subbed them out in order to have a more balanced lineup out there.Yeah, I know. I sound like a d*** for placing "starter" and "bench" labels on the kids. But I'm trying to make a point about balancing the lineup, and there is no other way to make that point.
Our team is very specific as they say the organization is more important then any player. You pay your money and they decide what to do with your daughter. if you don't like it, you are more than welcome to leave.I think thats the way it has to be because otherwise every parent would want their child playing striker or midfielder.
I loved my daughter playing almost exclusively defense her first few years, because I think good defenders naturally learn to play with their head up. Once she got a professional coach she has played more midfield and with good results.
Well said 3:14. I have seen the same on my daughters team.
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Crush plays half the games they did two years ago, looks they they are going the way of all their older teams - no where. Should go back to torpedoes team. Go to WC if you can before to late.
ajaxs new players being invited to play with the ecnl team.While girls who have been on the team and have been told they will move up keep writing checks and drinking the b team kool aid.You will get the coaches look one day.
10:20 the best players get invited to pre-ecnl teams new or old. This is no secret. It's okay your kid is still a great player. No need to add extra pressure to her plate.
I am not sure if you are having an issue with the process or the fact that someone other than your daughter has been given an opportunity? It sounds like the system is what you want, just not the result you wanted. At my daughter's club, which is not ECNL, but the B team is part of the process and opportunities are available for those that work hard. Keep working, if it doesn't work there, always choices.
10:20 you are absolutely right.
10:20 and 7:41. Sounds like angry parents there at Ajax. Did the new girls start showing their ball hog skills yet? Looking for that scholarship. LOL Tell your daughters to be a team player not a "me" player and she will definitely stand out
7:41 is not an Ajax parent. Not even in the right state pal.
I guess this is how these teams get stronger and stronger. They keep adding depth. Add the best 2 or 3 players to storm roster and the team will get even stronger. Only team that has chance to compete with this team is matchfit.
EDP schedule for the weekendHBC Spark vs Ramapo Valley Tornado South Central Premier Spirit vs Beachside SCPipeline SC vs WildcatsSTA vs Calvert CrewLehigh Valley vs Harford SCJersey Premier vs Calvert Crew
10:20 sounds like Storm parent trying to muddy the Ajax waters.Ajax an up and coming team, a real player in this division. Players/parents have no need to look elsewhere. They should value where they are at.
9:48 Why would Storm parent muddy the waters with that comment? What advantage do they get by trying to make someone feel bad? Besides being a bad individual just like Ray Rice.1 - hits a women2 - picks on 12 year old girls who didn't get a look with the first team.While I get one is a crime both are bad individuals that don't care about the feelings of others.
There are no EDP(L) NPL games until the spring.
10:11 Like last year 4 or 5 games?Why wouldn't they play a balanced Home/Away schedule?
I think he said EDP
EDL schedule is out for fall.teams have them.
My daughter plays for an EDL club, and I've seen no such EDL schedule, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. There's an EDP schedule, but that's not the same as EDL, which, from what others have said, doesn't begin until the Spring.
Never forget this date. Most of our daughters were not even born 13 years ago today. Every day we bash other teams, girls, coaches. Today is a day to remember. Also remember that soccer is only a game, and 99% of our daughters are not going to receive scholarships, so let them play having fun.
@9:48I am Not sure if I understand your post.Why would any player refuse to play for the 1st team,Maybe lack of playing time or distance., otherwise most should appreciate the invitation and run to the other team.
That EDP schedule looks like a MAPS schedule....... Nothing wrong with that but PLEASE do not say that those teams are playing similar competition that ECNL and NE NPL.
AT 1234 like you say "lack of playing time" if your son/daughter is on a team playing only 20-30 minutes, but go to a lesser team and play 50-60 minutes it may be best thing, no? Who knows why coaches do play and dont play one player over another, coaches do not always agree on substitutions. players leave yearly and/or in middle of year due to this lack of play time, then they go to another team and have the same issue, or not.
Yes but you have to give it shot to know where you stand if you are invited. At least thats what i teach my kids.
Assuming these teams apply for Region 1 Premier -What do you guys think? Honestly? Better road than ECNL or NPL?USYSA Region 13 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 6 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT 7 ATLETICOGU13 8 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED 15 BRYC 01 ELITE 16 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK 19 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE 1:09 I'm going to throw this out. Which would you rather have for your child if your kid was not the best player on the best team in the region. A) Play 20-30 minutes with kids that know how to pass, receive a pass, play their positions on both sides of the field.B) Play 50-60 minutes,maybe more individual play because not all the kids can make a pass to the right foot or maybe have a not so good first touch can hurt when playing high level soccer.C) Same as B, but level of soccer is a lot lower and your kid is a SUPER STAR
D) Play with the club you have come to admire and respect -then let it EVOLVE into a, b or c
1:51 I guess,but what does that have to do with 1:09 and the "lack of playing time"?
GS is now ranking the Super Y league as well if the teams have a GS account. Flight Ranking Value: 2125 PTS1506 = RAGE SC (PAE)1275 = PATRIOT FC (PAE)N/A = VALKYRIES FC (NJ)1594 = LONG ISLAND ROUGH RIDERS (NYE)190 = SABA NYC CITY (NYE)0 = PARSIPPANY SC (NJ)I'm still not sure why you don't have more teams doing this league looks legit - USL manages USL Pro3, PDL and W-League. Its a summer league with a National final in Nov/Dec always in Florida, nice spot for a vacation.Not the flavor of the month?
at 132 it is a tough one. you hate to see your kid sit, ever, right? I hated sitting when I played, especially when you are trying your best and not really that bad, but other kids on team are little better or favored for whatever reason, you never know what a coach is thinking, Solo was sat at one point...... but great point about only playing 20 with the best, or playing 50 with a MOSA team lets say and never sitting. here is where I am with my U10 son, playing Maps and sitting a lot, while on his MOSA team he plays, starts and rarely sits except to rest legs as a mid-fielder - now my U13 daughter never sits one minute of any match for several years current on EDP team. how hard is it to see your kid sitting there, when you know he can play all the time, is it an age thing, so at U10 it is ok and by U13 it is not. as a great parent it just hurts my stomach
Broccoli rabe hurts my stomach more than watching a kid sit on bench for an entire game, just saying...
I don't know 4:36 I'm 1:32 about my tummy hurting watching my kid sit.But it doesn't come close to watching her hit the floor and crying in pain. While you have to watch from the side lines while you wait to get the everything is okay or you get called out on the field. I don't wish that on anyone. PS. Broccoli rocks!!
PS. My keyboard stinks, so does my grammar and my spelling. Thank god my kid doesn't ask for help with her HW.3:12 you are right my tummy hurts also.
Answer to sitting might be to double cardI know all clubs dont allow it but playing with a lesser second team gives minutes and builds confidence.
That's what Middle School teams are for.
What PDA just did, isn't that what matchfit haters/parents hope for and are complaining about. Yo AdrieanWhat up RockYOU CANT'T WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ 8:58 So what your telling me is that the top 4 best teams in the state( Matchfit and PDA) are going to take their entire clubs top 20- 26 girls and make an ECNL team for each club . Wwwwwwhhhhhattttttttttt!!!!That sounds absolutey crazy. I have never heard of such a a thing in my entire life. What will we have to talk about . I might have to pick up a hobby. Idk like maybe care and watch my daughter play soccer with her friends and hopefully have fun.
Could be some of the Ajax players choose Zaraphath. We'll see.Good team, so some of them are worthy.
Draw for the Fall NJ State Cup & National Championship Series takes place tomorrow morning. Anyone want to definitively identify teams they know that are NOT going to be participating this year?? With the changing landscape and the movement to other leagues, I'm wondering who's in and who's out.
I think the NJ Cup in the Spring will have a bigger draw. Basically, it''s your EDP, JAGS and other NJ League teams participating this year.ECNL teams aren't carded for USYSA and either are NPL teams. I think that's why NJ Crush is doing crossover games so they can participate in the Fall State Cup and this is why STA and Nj Wildcats are doing EDP. Just a guess.
Yes, I believe it will be a rather thin showing for the Fall SC
So what you're saying is that no matter who wins, they're going to get ripped apart because they didn't have to beat anyone.
what they are saying is that PDA isnt going to be in the cup this year so it will be a "thin showing"comical
Not comical but correct. You are taking 4-5 of the top teams out of the cup. Would still be nice to win SC but really? How can you say it is same if those top 4-5 are not in it??
I posted 12:02. No one said anything about ripping anyone for winning. The point is that without MF or PDA that is conservatively 5 of the top 10 teams in the state are out. To me that is a thin showing, yes and I am not from either. It should be wide open for someone to step up.
12:02 I agree it will be thin. But this is an opportunity for the NON ECNL/NPL teams to win State Cup and go to Regionals with a chance to go to Nationals or National League.I wouldn't understand why an ENCL or NPL team would also take this road, it would only lead to conflicts down the road. Unless of course they were the club;s USYSA team.
Plenty of opportunities for teams to be National Champs. In no specific order.1) ECNL2) NPL3) US Club National Event4) USL Super Y5) USYSA National Champions6) USYSA National League7) USYSA President's CupAs many of us said previously many different levels, all will crown a National champ - which one is for your kid - well that's your choice since you pay the club tuition.And for the teams not playing in leagues or events that lead to one of these we have local leagues with ODP as a supplement. Plenty of opportunities.I just like talking ECNL/NPL because I buy into the club model over the Individual team model. Just my opinion.
Is Boca playing in the fall State Cup?
I know of one team that is on edge of their seat hoping NOT to see BOCA in their bracket! Too funny, great post 115!
The next big eventWAGSBracket 1BRYC 01 ELITE (VA) CREW JUNIORS GOLD WEST (OS) PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE) TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN) Bracket 2FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA) LAKE FOREST SA GU12 SELECT (IL) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) Bracket 3HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA) TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)
12:31 Comical?Last Spring Final Four was 3 PDA teams and MF/NJX.So yes, think its a "thin showing".
Fall state cup placement is for seeding at future eventsAnd of course the further you get the more games you get to play
All this talk about play time versus sitting. Why is your kid "playing" soccer if not to play? Was told by a friend of mine who is also a top college coach that my kid needs to be on a team where she get at least half the game. I want her to play at the best level where she can get half the game.
What's comical is if any ECNL/NPL teams entered the USYSA State Cup. I can see non- ECNL/NPL teams entering that is the the only road they have.But why would a ECNL or NPL (NYCSL, EDL or NE Girls NPL) team enter?I can see STA and NJ Crush use their white teams for this event since their first teams are NPL. I am curious to see if any NPL/ECNL teams entered the USYSA event when they have their own US Club Soccer event in the Spring.
2:30 I agree they play so they can play. But what is the end game?1) Just playing for Fun.2) Trying to be the best she can be to play in HS3) Trying to be the best she can for college4) Trying to be the best she can for college and beyond.If your kid is number 4, then they need to train with and play against other kids that want the same things, to me ECNL will be for kids that want this option. They will have to push themselves at every training session to earn minutes and sometimes it takes a few months to earn those minutes. In the end it will make that player better. The kids that have their minutes will need to work just as hard to fight off the kids wanting more minutes. Nothing wrong with this the kids win- regardless if they play in games or not, they will learn to give everything they have all the time.I think 1-3 can be had in manny different ways, see my 1:11 list.
2:30 I have one question for you. If your child was selected by the USWNT to train with them with an opportunity to play in events. Only XI can start and only 18 can dress, aren't' you still happy if she is in this pool of players if she plays or not? or if she was a dual citizen she would start for sure with her other nationality, but will the level be the same? would it matter?Just trying to put a different spin on the same question.
Boca team invited to come and watch Cats play in the WAGS Cup Flight listed above post 1:23.
No thanks 250, won't get much out of watching scoreless ties.
Hey Wildcats will your game with LVU count as an EDL NPL game? or is it just a Fall EDP Game?NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSI'm guessing you guys have some insight to this league? Since at u13 It actually matters who wins the league to represent them at the NPL Finals.Did any teams replace NYSC and Manhattan? If not You guys should dominate.
EDPGirls U13 1st Division NorthNJCSA ELITE 1 HBC SPARK 0 Girls U13 1st Division CentralJERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH 1 NJSCA GALAXY 3 DID Parsippany, NJCSA & HBC leave NYSC NPL to join EDL NPL?
Easy road with ZERO challenges. Will be interesting to see how they stack up against later on against the others that will have had a full season of battling every week. Think the battling is going to make these others stronger. But you never know.....
believe wildcat tied 1-1 with both penn legacy and calvert crew at spirit last month, not 0-0.
Believe Wildcats did not win any games and were destroyed by Ajax?
That's correct 809.
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