Thursday, January 23, 2014

U12G / U12 Girls Youth Soccer

U12G  / U12 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...



Morris Catholic turf is like cement..they would be better going to Hazlet and make that their home base

Ocean Twp...really?

Anonymous said...

@331

Wrong person - been ripping on Crush for two years because of all your talking.
I feel bad for the people you are making false accusations about.

Anonymous said...

12:44
This is a U12 site
Why would you be looking at U13 Crush unless.....

Anonymous said...

3:58
Nice try

Anonymous said...

@ 10:54

Thought these mighty encl clubs used all the off the grid friendlies to figure stuff out. Now its league games and next it will be who cares if we ever win a game we are devoping-

Anonymous said...

4;43- I would think you being wrong is the norm. Don't beat yourself up.

Anonymous said...

@4pm
Because I figured Crush would do something like that - always makes me laugh. I also knew there would be no post about jeffcup.

Anonymous said...

Because we only post when we are being unfairly bashed. And what would you have liked us to post about jeff cup. How we were treated so unfairly like you would have said if it had been your daughters team?. Anyway we move on. Strong character on that team and you know it so back off We dont miss you

Anonymous said...

For a u 12 parent you seem to know a lot about a third tier u 13 team. Not too many people that could be

Anonymous said...

It might behoove all members of this forum to take a gander at the NJCRUSHFC.conm website, see what a great job they are doing not only with their teams but in the community and with college prep.

Really second to none in my eyes, though World Class also does it right.

If you have a daughter, U4 to U17 and are looking for proper instruction with no idiots (U4 thru U8 is currently free of charge), CRUSH is for you.

Anonymous said...

Someone has a Crush on Crush. I think you people made the right decision to move on - I have never seen anything about his club except on his blog.

Anonymous said...

When kids leave a team mid season you would think a red flag would pop up in coach's mind. When kids do it twice a BIG RED FLAG should pop up.

Anonymous said...

I want to throw up, move on CRUSH.

Anonymous said...

Have you ever heard that maybe Crush was more than happy to see certain individuals leave?

Anonymous said...

Okay, Uncle. Now go away please. I'm sure your DOC is happy to see all this trash talk.

Anonymous said...

Anybody know the result of tonight state cup game? I think PDA storm was playing

Anonymous said...

With a few soccer playing kids, our family has made a number of decisions to change teams over the years. We always did so with what we believed was the best interest for our children in mind. I suppose there were some who didn't appreciate it. Too bad.

This stuff going on here is really unfortunate and it would be best if those involved would cease and desist.

Anonymous said...

I agree, it's a family's decision to change teams but not all the time, Sometimes the team doesn't want the kid and sometimes the kid want's something else.

All you can do is check things out for yourself put your kid on the field they will tell you what they like and what they don't.

Sometimes the teams do better sometimes they don't. WHO CARES!!!

Anonymous said...



STA Tryouts U13G NPL 2014/2015

http://www.stasoccer.org/#!morris--united-sta-tryouts/c1cia

Tryouts will be held at new facility where team will practice and play their home games.

5/7 & 5/9

Central Park
91 Central Ave.
Morris Plains, NJ

Anonymous said...

Tell me how it is in the best interest of a child to leave her friends/team at ages 9,10,11 12. 4 consecutive years. How is it in the best interest of your daughter to drive 3hrs. To practice and games 3-4 times a week? This is all for the parents ego,

Anonymous said...

"Tell me how it is in the best interest of a child to leave her friends/team at ages 9,10,11 12. 4 consecutive years. How is it in the best interest of your daughter to drive 3hrs. To practice and games 3-4 times a week? This is all for the parents ego,"

I'd say your posts here are all about your ego.

Anonymous said...

Crush and Wildcats parents are out of control. We have had several kids leave our team to play somewhere else. Still talk to the parents and our kids still hangout. We look forward to seeing them at tournaments.

Leaving a team you know is never easy. Why would Wildcats and Crush parents come out here and attack their families and daughters? Obviously, the parents made a good decision to leave.

Anonymous said...

Holy.... Will this ever end? I hope the PDA brash are looking at this and take into consideration when Crush wants to play in their showcases. The Crush DOC should stop this, it's worst than the wildcat guy ripping on the coach. You all better hope your team does well going forward, life changes and you may want to make a change someday that will come back to haunt you.
These comments are down right obnoxious and pointed directly at families that made a simple choice in life. My advice would be not to go to crush, it sounds like a cult.

Anonymous said...

Ego??

My daughter started playing rec ball. She did well and wanted to try travel, so we went to a town travel team. She did well and wanted to play for a premier team. Now on the premier team she is still doing well. But I can only second guess myself. Would it have been better to start her off on the premier team from the start? My answer is YES, even thought it would have cost a lot more money, she would be further along than she is now no doubt!!!

Ego? Wish it was about ego at least it would have benefited my daughter.

Anonymous said...

Happy Easter and Passover to Everyone. Here's hoping we can find a bit more kindness and happiness for ourselves and others in our hearts.

Anonymous said...

Talk about ego, didn't the team leave all their friends from a premier town team to go to crush and leave half the girls behind? Don't you now travel ten times more and spend five times more? What is the difference? Didn't you leave the friends behind to move to what you thought was better for your child? Let me guess, it was an ugly departure.

Anonymous said...

Thank You 11:54 for some perspective.
There is so much hate and deviousness on this board it is horrible. Amazing how far some of these people will go.

Anonymous said...

Some real pot stirrers lurk on this board

The poster posing as a Crush parent needs to find another topic.

The players that left Crush for Storm have been wished good luck. Players/parents always have their reasons for what they consider moving up or moving on

The only issue - as preciously stated - was the timing of it all on the familys' part

. And that PDA is seemingly recruiting players during their seasons with other clubs, rather than allow the player to finish the year, then welcoming the change


Have a nice day.

Anonymous said...

After the PDA GS points were applied below is what I have for the US CLub Leagues + top 5 teams.

Pre ECNL Flight = 10,000 GS Points

2 BREAKERS GU12ELITE
12 WEST CHESTER UNITED SCPREDATORS'01G
32 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
41 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED
42 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM

EDL Flight = 6,250 GS Points

35 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
53 NEW YORK SC G01
58 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS
98 TSF ACADEMY 01/02
203 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE

NYCSL NPL Flight = 6,000 GS Points

11 NEFC CENTRAL ELITE U12 GIRLS NPL
25 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI
94 OAKWOOD GIRLS 12 BLUE
114 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02
137 NJSA 04 NPL-01 CEDAR

NE Girls NPL Flight = 5,000 GS Points

16 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC
49 FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02
113 PDA DRAGONS
117 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM
124 BREAKERS GU12 PREMIER


With Delco, the MF Tournament, EDP and other Spring Tournaments still to be played the top 10s are shaping up as we expected or are they?

Anonymous said...

New Jersey GS top 10

1 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC
2 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM
3 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI
4 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH
5 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX
6 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM
7 NJ FORCE ACADEMY IMPERIALS
8 SDFC SAMBA
9 INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02
10 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH
========================================

New York East GS top 10

1 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ
2 NEW YORK SC G01
3 ATLETICOGU11
4 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON
5 SABA BROOKLYN CITY
6 WHITE PLAINS UNITED 02
7 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM
8 EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE
9 KOSMOS FC NIKH
10 MASSAPEQUA HURRICANES
=======================================

Pennsylvania East GS top 10

1 WEST CHESTER UNITED SC PREDATORS'01G
2 NETHER UNITED XTREMES
3 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK
4 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS
5 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01
6 FC EUROPA LIBERTY
7 FUSION FC UNITED
8 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA
9 FC REVOLUTION FORCE
10 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK

Anonymous said...

NJ Cup

3 teams through

NJ Force
Jersey Premier
NJX

Rage play tomorrow
PDA Storm play Friday
Other 3 games are Monday

Anonymous said...

I have been reading the various comments on this board since August, and the one theme that runs through all of the posts is the concept that my kid is better off at her club, than yours. So why complain, bash, and ridicule? Its a simple answer, insecurity.

Anonymous said...

Not sure if GS gives points to Semi Finals is events they manually enter.

NJ Cup Flight Value = 10,000 GS Points

PA NCS Cup Flight Value = 8,500 GS Points

NY Cup Flight Value = 7,000 GS points

Anonymous said...

Crush did not leave half the team behind when they moved from their town travel team. Three families made the decision to not move to Crush - each for their own personal reasons...they were not 'left behind'. All the families, and coaches, that moved from said team to crush are great individuals and solid families.

Anonymous said...

yes 12:29 it is insecurity. The fear of parents that the team they left will be better off without them.

Anonymous said...

1:21, hahaha, funny...

Anonymous said...

Most parents that move their kids in the middle of a season are setting up their kids for failure....they forget soccer is about the kids, not the parents trying to live thru them

Anonymous said...

1:27

Dr. Oz is in the house!

Anonymous said...

Check that 1:27, meant to say:

Dr. Phil is in the house!

Anonymous said...



A post from the U15 blog:


Now that tryouts season is upon us, I know we will not be going back to MF. What a complete waste of time and money. Promises not kept, lies upon more lies. According to website training is supposed to be 3x week. They can barely hold one. They only care about you if you are on the ECNL team so if offered an NPL spot, do not accept. Training was supposed to be together for both teams. They aren't at same time or even at same location. There was no reciprocity between teams either as promised. As for all those "affiliate teams" run, don't walk away from it. Just a cash cow for the club. Fair warning to anyone who might be considering a move to this club.
April 16, 2014 at 12:49 PM

If you are not part of that ECNL team beware is what it sounds like

Anonymous said...

See also Match Fleece Blue (Jaguars). What has MF done for this team,except fleece them for money. Jaguars pay the same amount as the Falcons?

Anonymous said...

Dont they play the same type schedule?

Anonymous said...

to me sounds like a parent that had their precious replaced by a better player.

Anonymous said...

I believe the dragons get the same type of treatment. According to this blog.

Anonymous said...

yes, both dragons and jaguars teams are treated as second class by their clubs although s stated they pay the same money.
they play far less games and tournaments and vs much lower competition in leagues and flights in tournaments.

Anonymous said...

PDA, Match Fit, Crush and so on

2nd team or even 3rd teams are considered cash cows.

As a parent that will not make the top team, I have been very happy with my daughters place. She is getting so much more with one of these clubs than if she stayed on her travel team.

Do I care if they win or lose, actually I don't. I care if my kid is improving, yes she is.

Call it a cash cow or whichever statement else comes out.

For me, I love the training.

Give a few more years and those so called cash cow teams will end up being top quality teams.

Anonymous said...



or you will just end up paying more to pay for the travel of the top team quality team or not

Anonymous said...

2:43- Exactly right.... oh wait....

Ajax was placed in a high bracket for Jeff Cup and Delco. Won their EDP division against great competition.
Dragons have lost 2 games since summer (NJX #1 GS NJ and Bing #1 GS NYW) and beat MF Blue.

Other than those minor details, very similar to MF Jaguars, LOL

PDA training far superior to MF, not even close.

Falcons and NJX/MF 2 very good teams. Would not play for any other MF teams.

Anonymous said...

Website has Dragons as the NENPL team. In other words that is equal to any NPL team NYSC, NJ Wildcats, NJ Crush, Oakwood and others.

They play in a league that sends it's Champion to a National Event.

Not sure about MF teams website does not break it down like PDA does.

Anonymous said...

So

NJ Wildcats or NYCSL win the EDL NPL

and

NEFC, NJ Crush or Oakwood win the NYCSL

and

Dragons win the NENPL

They all play at the Champions Cup vs each other.

The MF team that is NENPL also is in this boat either NJX or Jaguars

Same goes for WC Hamm

Not the same as NJ Wildcats, NJ Crush or any other 2nd team that does not play in NPL.

Anonymous said...

I am curious, if Dragons are the NENPL team and Ajax is also NPL are they in EDL NPL or is there a new NPL about to be announced?

Anonymous said...

What is the difference between NENPL and NPL?

Anonymous said...

Ajax should be EDL NPL. Geographically it makes sense, and even if there are new NPLs added I doubt they would encroach on this area as there are already a handful of NPLs. Someone said something in a previous post about a new NPL in Virginia. Obviously that's not a consideration.

I'm not speaking from any point of specific knowledge...just making my best guesses.

Anonymous said...

NENPL is the Northeast Girls NPL. It's essentially an exclusive NPL for the "B" teams of all of the northeastern-based ECNL clubs.

Also, regarding Ajax, PDA is not currently one of the accepted clubs in EDL. I'm sure that's easy enough for them to make a case for, but as it stands right now they're not a part of EDL.

Anonymous said...

Mommy mommy daddy daddy when you make me leave this team after spring season can you pick a team closer to home. I'm to tired to do homework after driving 1.5 hours. Please plese please.
Your Well Traveled Daughter.

Anonymous said...

NPL
National Premier Leagues

I think there are 17, they added VA but Oregon and Washington created a champions League so they are still at 17.

The winners of these 17 NPLs all play each other in a National Event.

EDP is not an NPL but the EDL is. NPLs are club based - the Club needs to be accepted by the League and Club Soccer and put a team in each Age Group - they follow USSF Academy Standards like the ECNL.

Anonymous said...

First we had the well travelled coach and now we have the well travelled daughter. What's next?

Anonymous said...

Thats it, no other team trashy enough to bash former player and parents like Crush and Wildcats

Anonymous said...

Dragons only lost 2 games, but they only played about 6 all year.

Anonymous said...

10:28 Try 19 Games played for Dragons via GS and JAGS
Come on Man that's all you got. Let me guess next your going to say they didn't play anyone right.

Anonymous said...

To build on the National Premier Leagues

The NPL currently consists of 17 member leagues
for the 2013-14 season from all across the United States:
The winners of each of the leagues will earn a spot at the
NPL Finals, July 10-14 in Greensboro, N.C.

Our girls that play for Clubs in these leagues will travle to
where ever the 2014/2015 Championships ae held. So save some money
if your kids team is good and plan for a July vacation somewhere in
the USA - San Diego anyone? The 2012/2013 event was held at
July 18-22, 2013 | Aurora Sports Park | Aurora, Colo.


Eastern Development League - NPL Division
Florida Premier League
Gulf States Premier League
Midwest Developmental League
Mountain Developmental League
New England Premier League
New York Club Soccer League - NPL Division
NorCal Premier League - NPL Division
Northeast Girls NPL
Northeast Pre-Academy League
Northern Illinois Soccer League - NPL Division
Oregon Premier League - NPL Division
South Atlantic Premier League
South Central Premier League
Southern California NPL
Texas Pre-Academy League
Washington State Premier League


Joining beginning in the 2014-15 season:
Northwest Champions League (Web page coming soon)
Virginia NPL (Web page coming soon)

Anonymous said...

MF Jaguars. Today at practice we are going to work on placement. Please report to the practice fields early and place easter eggs all over the soccer field for the Falcon players and families to find.

Anonymous said...

9:02 "First we had the well travelled coach and now we have the well travelled daughter. What's next?"

VERY FUNNY!

Anonymous said...

8:26 Don't get it sorry :(

Must be a YOUR club(s) thing.

Anonymous said...

8:33- Exactly right.

Crush mocks a girl and her family who left their team.

Wildcats mock a girl and her father for leaving their team.

Don't know why they target these people. No clubs lose more players than Crush and Wildcats.

Anonymous said...

Why is their an attack on the MF Jaguars?

Anonymous said...

8:59 see the 8:46

Someone making fun of some people that moved to that team from theirs no doubt. That's how the board rolls. I guess some Youth Soccer feelings were hurt.

Anonymous said...

To try and keep people from trying out there. NJX, Wildcats, Force all have players registered for MF tryouts. That could make for a very good team and cripple the others.

Anonymous said...

8:46

You've been asked kindly to stop misrepreenting others.

The forum and the sport need you to get over your obsession, if just for a little while

Thanks

Anonymous said...

My guess is the MF pre-ECNL will look different at u13 not sure about PDA but it sounds like they will have some players at their tryouts as well.

How about WC what's the buzz are they getting stronger?

Looks like EM and Albertson battle each other for the same players.

Westchester seems to be the team in PA but didn't make it to their State Cup Semi-finals. Does Delco and Bucks have a shot?

That covers the Northeast pre ECNL

The EDL looks like it's going to be NYSC and NJ Wildcats early on - saw LVU's 1st team at MAPS not very impressed with that team, didn't see MD Rush play.

NYCSL NPL - has some very good teams NJ Crush, STA, NJSA, Oakwood & NEFC - my guess would be NEFC and Oakwood with NJ Crush ast the favorites early on.

NENPL Lot has to do with the Pre-ECNL teams who they replace and who they add that will accept playing for their 2nd teams. My guess would be FC Stars or Breakers as the early favorites

Not sure about the Non-US Club Soccer teams.

Rage didn't do to good in the Region 1 Colonial League this spring, Penn Legacy?

I'm still waiting on the Ajax news to break - which NPL will they play in? - If it's a new one I can see clubs not currently in a NPL from the ASL forming one with Ajax maybe? If it's EDL they would join NYSC and NJ Wildcats as the top teams in my opinion going off of their u12 teams.

A lot can change but u13 looks like lots of fun with everyone playing 11v11

Anonymous said...

I noticed that there are no crush teams playing in the PDA college showcase, I wonder why? Maybe it's to close? Maybe they are above this kind of competition? Maybe they can't get in? Maybe the people that left asked PDA to reject them? Franklin lakes is a nice place to hold your own tournament that weekend. And your daughters won't be travelers.


Anonymous said...

What's going on with Rage still the same team?

Anonymous said...

10:10 Not the same team they were. Their size and power has been neutralized as other girls start to mature.
Good coach and program but not the same team from U10 and U11 when they were so much bigger and stronger.

Anonymous said...

Feel like Spring started and already getting ready for tryouts. Here are some of the top clubs (I think).

NJ South:
- Rage, SJEB, and PDA

NJ Central
-MF, NJ Force, and PDA Shore

NJ North
-MF, PDA, JPS and STA

If your on the fence or curious, you should go to as many tryouts as possible. They are free and you get to see your daughter compete with other good players.

Good Luck to everybody looking to move teams.

Anonymous said...

Can coaches/parents give me there thoughts on this.....I would like to move my daughter to a "premiere" team.I am not looking to make the move until u14 however.I wanted to take her to tryouts this year.Just to get a feel for the other team.If she is in fact offered a spot this year and we decline.Will that affect how she is looked at next year when she will be ready to make the move?I would appreciate thoughts and opinions.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't know, but wouldn't think so, We might think it was held against her if she isn't selected the next time around because that's the way most of us think.

At least you would know if she wasn't selected that she is not at that level regardless of what you may think. But if she is they won't turn her away if she can help and is alot better than the girls on the roster.

I think the only thing you give up is the benefit of the doubt. it will be a lot harder for a girl to lose a spot to a girl that is not a prodigy.

Anonymous said...

10:43 I respect your opinion - but I disagree with it.

Could careless about the NJ Wildcats u12 coach you said CLUB not TEAM how does a club that has a W-League (you know division 2 right under NWSL) team, not as a top club?

Please explain, I am curious or are you one of those posters?

Anonymous said...

11:20. My opinion was on clubs, not leagues they play in. I don't think a club that allows its coaches to post on blogs is a good club.

Anonymous said...

12:06 I don't think you are the admin of this blog, so how would you know coaches from the clubs you mentioned are not blogging away?

Yes but if it's on clubs - what's your criteria for a good club?
Training? Team Colors?

ALL you did was list them. What makes them special in your opinion? You seem to have covered all of NJ I am curious to see what these have that others don't?

I used Wildcats and W-League for an example - how about Parsippany and their Super Y avenue then? Why are they not in your list?

What makes Rage, SJEB, PDA, MF, NJ Force, JPS and STA so special?

I think you showed your colors with your last post that you are one of those posters. I guess what ever floats your boat.

Anonymous said...

12:30 a little angry?? Relax , most posts are peoples OPINIONS

Anonymous said...

Angry? Still didn't back up your opinions besides throwing NJ Wildcats under a bus. Just deflecting I see.

What makes those clubs so great - you seem to have NJ covered?

Anonymous said...

You made two posts without giving your opinion on those clubs? Why?

Oh, you don't have to - you can just list them because you are you. got it.


Anonymous said...




STA Tryouts 2014/2015 U13G

http://www.stasoccer.org/#!morris--united-sta-tryouts/c1cia

5/7 & 5/9

Tryouts at new complex where team will practice and play games

Central Park
91 Central Ave.
Morris Plains, NJ

Anonymous said...

Rage appears to have a lot of weak players this season. Time to make changes, I would think. Word has it that their top player did not make ODP.

Anonymous said...

I am surprised there too play did not make odp.I know the coach was having extra practices for the players that were trying out.Doesn't say much about his extra practices.

Anonymous said...

Yes, because original poster did not list Wildcats they have an agenda against you. Do they have an agenda against the other 50+clubs in nj not listed?

Can't go a day on this site without Wildcats or Crush self promoting. Give it a break, it makes you look desperate.

Everybody else, enjoy this great weekend

Anonymous said...

The older U12s are actually playing ODP with the U13s.

Tough sort of playing up and trying to be among best in state.

Anonymous said...

crush is a great club and a great team . we finally got rid of problems and now we are a better team. that is a fact and you will see during the season. still number one!

Anonymous said...

1:01 you are seriously losing it! Step away from the edge ! It's only 12 year old soccer

Anonymous said...

I'm confused. I thought ODP was separated into birth years. 2000 and 2001 were only trying out for their birth year. Did they have 2000 and 2001 together competing against each other? Or did you see some girls that you thought were u13 because they play up? It's okay, your daughter can try out next year. Don't make excuses why she was not good enough this year.

Anonymous said...

2:14 That's false. Could care less about the Wildcats, I'm the PDA shill!!

But I bet your the same poster.

Do they have an agenda against others? No they/you just made the list so others can say what about this team and what about this team.

Come on man grow up - Let see I said 2 posts without backing up your opinions and out come the Crush and Wildcat posts.

Step away from the edge To Funny - I see you like posting about u12 Soccer just as much - geez you got NJ covered by knowing the top Clubs must of took some serious scouting - and I need to step away from soccer.

Anonymous said...

Agree odp is separated by birth year.Some of the girls may have been playing u13 but have the birth year of 2001.Odp is done by year of birth so your daughter was competing with girls her own age.She did not go up against girls a year older.Try again next year.Maybe look for a better trainer.

Anonymous said...

2:51 sorry to throw in my rants in between your posts.

Are you a fan of the birth year requirement?

I think youth soccer should adopt this across the board - if you were born in 2001 - you play against others born in 2001.

Do away with the Aug 1st start.

Anonymous said...

yes gotta love how 2:14 gives lists, says have a great weekend, then throws in nasty snipes against wildcats and/or crush.He is soo slick and clever! Not!
So obvious after all this time the same act. Dude has OCD.

Anonymous said...

Do you agree with the below?

"It starts with being a cultural issue with our sport. The key period of development for a young player is at an early age, when their acquisition of technical skills is so important. But in this country that is not emphasized at the appropriate age or time in development. There are so many good people out there right now, a lot of very experienced coaches, but what happens in youth soccer is that the better coaches coach the best teams. When you go down to the lowest age levels, where the coaching is really important, you have fathers and mothers who don't know the game and who know more about basketball or [American] football."

Anonymous said...

How about the below

"The priority has to be development over winning. I think you can win and develop players, but in order to do that you have to have a philosophy. A process, an approach, or some kind of a method is the most important thing at younger ages. In a country like Mexico, you watch their U-17s, you watch the U-20s, you watch the full senior team: They all play the same way. You see that even rub off on the clubs. Overall, you can tell there was at least an idea within the country of the way they want to go about things. It's difficult because there are all these different ways to play, but if it starts with U.S. Soccer and we say, 'Hey, this is how we're going to play as a country,' that will help youth academies follow that lead."

Anonymous said...

Just posting some thoughts about Youth Soccer in the USA that I was able to find

"We need to identify the players that are more skilled and have more technique rather than always spotting the biggest players. I think Barcelona has made people think a little bit more about the importance of a technical player and not seeing only the importance of a great athlete. The perception of the player is slowly evolving, but it hasn't completely changed."

Anonymous said...

I like this one

"The next component, which is very important, that we're also not doing enough -- you look at the rest of the world, most teams train four or five times as a team, as a group, but also then have two individual trainings, which are really geared towards positions. We still get players that don't know how to play a position within a certain system well. We have too many players without a position."

Anonymous said...

"The other thing is we need to use the resources we already have. Club soccer and MLS discount college soccer because it's different than the way it's done in Europe and South America. But colleges have a budget of a million dollars for their soccer team when you add it all up, and sometimes people try to discount that. We need to make the money that's already available for soccer work better for us. We need to take stock of resources that are there and use them in a more efficient manner; rather than throwing away the facilities and the abilities that those organizations have, we need to use them better."

Anonymous said...

People kill ECNL for this one. But they believe in more practice.

"It starts with coaching. A lot of players in the United States from this generation or the generation before that didn't get to meet up with good coaches until they were 18 or 19, at which time they went to the MLS and then all of a sudden their education and development started at a later age. You can say what you want about developing players, but if they don't have good coaches, they're in trouble. A player has to be able to realize what he's done wrong, and when you don't have someone on the sideline able to tell you what you're doing wrong, how to develop and how to change that, you're in bad shape.

"I see logistical problems in the United States and [NCAA limitations on practice time in college soccer] make it difficult. It all goes back to repetitions, hours and hours and hours. Kids from 18 to 22 are only practicing a few hours a week -- and these are some of the top players in the United States? That's ridiculous. If you see what we in Holland put in for hours and what the United States puts in, it's not even close."

Anonymous said...

We continue talking about Wildcats, Crush, PDA, MF which kid left where and what coach did what are we can talk about soccer, I posted some quotes I found about issues with Youth Soccer in the US.

Do you guys/gals agree or disagree maybe you don't even care. Anyway I hope you at least enjoyed the read.

Anonymous said...

Howell United Outlaws Fall U13G will hold open tryouts on May 7th & 14th at Soldier Mmemorial Park in Howell. These are our home fields and are some of the best grass fields in Monmouth & Ocean County.

We will play JAGS in the fall and play in 3 or 4 high level tournaments.

We have a non-parent coach
Please show up 15 minutes early to complete paperwork

HUSC Outlaws U13G tryouts
May 7th & 14th 5:30
Soldier Memorial Park450 Lakewood Farmingdale Rd, Howell, NJ 07731

Anonymous said...

3:36pm

This is exactly the reason why I like a vocal coach. Over the past 2 years I have brought my kids over seas. During this time, they attend camps and many youth games. Each time the coach on the sidelines, were\are very vocal. I recalled saying to myself, this would never fly in USA.

We have some vocal coaches in NJ, unfortunately these coaches on this board get ridiculed. (we hear let the kids learn on their own, you give to much instruction, I can go on)These so called loud coaches are providing correct information, I like this style. Same style over seas. we need more of this

Anonymous said...

4:19 because us parents don't like to hear our little ones getting ripped into, but yet we want them to play high level soccer. Kind of like having our cake and eating it.

You know back in the days, someone raises their voice or is a wise ass you are ready to dance. Now you have to sit back and watch it happen to our little ones. Drives me crazy. My wife always has to put me in check and remind me that it's 2014 and it's okay to be a PDA shill.

While I would prefer the coach that lets the kids play the more I think about it - it's more for me not having a cow than my kid not being able to handle it.

Anonymous said...

Looks like NJ Cup next games should be done by Monday, 4/21. What happens if a game is not played by the deadline?
I hope this question is not perceived as a slight against Wildcats.

Anonymous said...

4:19. It depends on who's yelling. Has the coach played soccer at a high level? What are their qualifications?

To be fair, I don't care if they are a former Olympian, I don't want to hear a coach belittle their players on the field.

Anonymous said...

I have seen just about every coach mentioned on this blog, only one coaches belittles his girls. W**Cats

all others provide information, guidance, and most importantly providing insight of how the game should be played for that team

Anonymous said...

The 2001 u12 players are at a disadvantage when they play against the u13 odp players and that is a fact. Very difficult for them to make the team because they are actually playing against younger players. Soccer needs to be based on your birth year again.

Anonymous said...

They are the same age!I have no idea what excuse you are trying to come up with why your little girl didn't make it.At the end of the day she went to tryouts with girls are all the exact same age......spin it how you want!

Anonymous said...

His Point is that a girl born in January 2001 plays u13 Soccer, while a girl that was born in December 2001 plays u12. Big difference.

However a girls that was born in July 2001 is 13 while a girl born in August 2001 is u12 NO difference.

I think.

Anonymous said...

I prefer the TIP program over ODP it's free for those who make it which takes the money motivation out of it when 50 to 70 players make ODP at this age you have to wonder if they are really looking for the best talent when they take that amount of players at $700 to $1650 per player for one state when TIP includes the best of multiple states

Anonymous said...

832 if you don't mind me asking which year is your daughter in and how many girls are in her year.Thanks!

Anonymous said...

She is currently U12 birth year 2002 .tryouts for uppers already happened and lowers are on Monday
But after hearing from parents of older players, ODP doesn't pay off until u14/U15 when they make the select team of 18 players , should she make that then I will be willing to shell out $1650

Anonymous said...

I think his point is my daughter is use to being one of the bigger players on her team and in this league (because she is on the cusp).Now she is being forced to play against girls her age and she is not the biggest.Now it's hard for her.Save it those girls were her age.It's not like she is use to playing 8v8 and the other girls are playing 11v11.Then there is a difference.

Anonymous said...

Just look at the numbers of players that make ODP in early years 2000,2001,and now seeking 2002. Count the numbers and you will see it's between 50 to 70 players in the pool with 5 to 8 goalies . That doesn't seem very selective to me

Anonymous said...

916...is she a TIP player?

Anonymous said...

Yes, she is

Anonymous said...

How many TIP players are in 2002?

Anonymous said...

8:27

You have a brain. Someone else doesn't seem to have one. Take PDA Splash for example. How many of the u12 players could actually make that team? How many could make SJ Elite? The fact is, my daughter did make ODP and I am happy for her. She plays u12. The talent level is way better at u13. So the players who have players u13 for many years now, have an advantage over the u12 players. Different competition and better skilled players a year up. That is why it is difficult for the younger players to make ODP. Rage player is good but she is probably a little behind the u13 players.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the outcome of Rage /Ajax state cup game??

Anonymous said...

Ajax 1-0

Anonymous said...

Congrats Ajax!

Anonymous said...

Yes, congrats to Ajax on great win. When NJX-Force playing next round State Cup?

Anonymous said...

Heading for a PDA Storm vs PDA Ajax semifinal. Nice.

Anonymous said...

Quarterfinal round games must be played by May 5th

Anonymous said...

To the person complaining about the U13s having it easier than the U12s for ODP ... and your daughter has had it easier at the Club level ever since she started, compared to the girls born in the late Spring and Summer. The Autumn births get more training attention and playing time for the first several years as coaches view them as bigger and more mature than the late Spring/Summer births. And now that she suddenly has to compete against girls who are at most 8 months older, you whine about it being unfair just because those girls get to at a higher level with the club team? Then play up, if she's good enough. My daughter is a late Spring birth, and definitely not big ... yet she played up one year with a team, then the team played up one year during several tournaments, so she was actually competing against girls up to 33 months older.

Stop your whining how "it's not fair".

Anonymous said...

The whining is because they are used to their daughter being the biggest on the field and now she is not as effective playing against the same size or bigger girls.

The size window is closing. Time to develop the skills and soccer intellect.

Anonymous said...

Just about ALL the whining and bashing on this site is from parents and coaches whose teams and dear daughters got beat on the field, or didn't get what they wanted from their former teams.

Anonymous said...

I dont think anyone is complaining about their older U12 daughter and her ODP prospects

It was just pointed out that one particular player didnt make the squad - and a reason was given - that she was a U12 in with U13s.





Anonymous said...

11:50

You are better off having your "playing 33 months up" daughter play for a much better team and on age.

Anonymous said...

1:27 pm

If I needed your advice, I'd write down my request for it on the back of my national coaching license or the back of either of her offer letters from the only two ECNL teams in the state.

Anonymous said...

Congratulations to Ajax! Big win for them. Should be a very good game vs JPS in quarterfinals. 2 very quiet teams on blog. Maybe just a good soccer game without any trash talk beforwe or after? Could it be?

Anonymous said...

1:33

That doesnt contradict what I said. She is "better off" (read my post) playing with one of those she got the offer from.

Good coaches - even the ones with national licenses - never stop learning

Recently just in the area we have seen quite a few "playing up" talents come back on age.

Have a nice day, pal.

Anonymous said...

2:27 And did I say she didn't accept one of those offers? She happens to currently play for one of those two clubs. The playing-up experience was valuable to her at the time and helped her get to where she is now.

Anonymous said...

According to UNC Head Coach Anson Dorrance girls should always train and play up at the highest competitive level they are capable of competing successfully at, including playing and/or at least training with boys as long as they can hold their own.

Anonymous said...

Anson's comment is not wrong, though I wouldn't necessarily tie it to age or gender. In general, the concept is that players need to play at whatever level challenges them significantly, but does't overwhelm them. That may mean simply moving up to a higher level team, or it may mean playing up, or playing with boys ...

- EE

Anonymous said...

2:18. Great point. Ajax a good team that plays great soccer. Played them several times and they are very consistent . Like the fact they don't come out here boasting about wins.

Ajax vs JPS will be a very good game.

Anonymous said...

Yep.

U14 in town vs top 5 U12 club.

Take the latter.

Anonymous said...

2:45 agree with you that there are different ways to stretch yourself as a player but Anson did say specifically that most top players at the elite level played with boys at some point in their early development and he feels all had a surge in their early development from that experience technically, tactically and physiologically. I saw this first hand with my older daughter.

Anonymous said...

It takes a certain type (I am speaking about female players) to be willing to play soccer (exclusively) with boys. Girls rely on the social aspect more and that can be awkward. I think it can be very beneficial in development for the exceling female player, but they may not be interested or willing from a socail perspective...at least that was my experience with my daughter.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Mime played with boys from 6-9yrs old.
Was very willing and very competitive on the boys side at that age.
At 9 it was time to move to girls team. mainly for social reasons.
Was advanced compared to girls her age when she switched over.

Anonymous said...

Ajax plays great soccer? Congrats on the win but don't get confused. Can count the number of passes connected with both shoes and a glove on.

Anonymous said...

I am not surprised you feel the game wasnt pretty in terms of connecting passes. Rage are a tough defensive side.

Anonymous said...

Yes, true tough to play possession vs rage team. They will knock you off the ball if you hold it too long.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who was there have analysis of rage vs ajax game?

Anonymous said...

Be careful, other teams got bashed when answering same question from someone on blog.

Anonymous said...

My kids team plays possession soccer, but we are having a ahead time against kick and run’s, its just impossible to play good soccer against big, unskilled girls, who dump the corners, and run over you. The reason is every girl on the possession team needs to have a great first touch, and at this level some of them are still lacking, we have 4-5 that are great, but on the big field, you need 7-9 that will not lose the ball under pressure. So, what to do? We are going to stick-it-out, and even though we may lose games now, by u14 our team should be hard to match-up against, we shall see.

Anonymous said...

Looking for a team for my daughter, she will be u13 in fall. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Looking for a competitive team. She has been playing since age 5. Leaving town team . She is very skilled and definitely is one of the best on her team. How much are these club teams?

Anonymous said...

When questions are asked like the above post, you need to give some general geography, North, Central, South. That will help with any recommendations. Cost for the higher level teams is between 2000-3200 per year in general.

Anonymous said...

Careful with 6:47, may be another innocent sounding general question looking to set up a chance to bash another team. That has been his MO for some time now.Same person asks, then answers his own set up question.
Same agenda over and over,tired and redundant.

Anonymous said...

Yes, let me even guess his answer ahead of time.
Here are the ones to consider, but stay away from these.
We are all on the edge of our seats waiting for him to grace us with his omnipotent knowledge of all the teams and clubs in nj. And then we will only consider the clubs he recommends.Especially considering his qualifications, track record and experience at the highest levels of youth soccer.
And his anonymity.

Anonymous said...

7:50 I think you nailed/outed him.

Anonymous said...

yes, somewhere in nj, hiding deep down in his dark, cold, damp pit, and Evil Troll shudders with fear, at the thought he may have been discovered.

Anonymous said...

Happy Easter to all our soccer families! Let's all try and be kinder to each other this holiday season.

Anonymous said...

Very true in ODP, until U15 or so the children playing the same age club/ODP have a big advantage over the kids playing club one year behind ODP. By U15, that is generally evened out.

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