If LVU and Wildcats get to the finals they will play each other.
Yes they were told you will be warming the bench..... My guess, they didn't like what they started hearing.
I'd guess they made PAC or CFC, or somewhere else they felt more confident about landing a GDA team. Or maybe they just didn't like TM. Maybe both.
Really, I think the coach, CS, didn't want to carry all those numbers. I am sure the club wants the revenue, but it is a sin for the coach to have too many players. There are plenty of NPL players who would take a spot if offered so the cracks about getting DA or not liking TM are nonsense.
19 is a good number. Someone is always hurt so at least everyone gets to dress.After a decent but not extraordinary ECNL season, our team is now going with a "light roster" according to the coach. 16 or 17 players. He wants to focus on the best players while also leaving space for mid year additions.
19 is not a good number to the girls who don't dress in that spot for games.
We played over 35 games last year with a roster of 20. We had one game where we had two healthy scratches (to use a hockey term) and no games with one healthy scratch. 19 is a fine roster size. It's a rough sport. Someone is always hurt.
621 what team is that or give a hint, as many of May be looking come winter.
People will start looking as soon as clubs are named to be a GDA. Which I guess is anytime July through December.
Any other blank schedules you can post?
I thought GS was the enemy and PDA hated the? Your turn 9:48
NPL NortheastPDA South 01 vs #4Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs #2 or #3Still alive pts (gp)40 (22) Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL 37 (22) PDA North 01 NPL 35 (22) FC Boston 01 NPL This can go anyway with PF playing Boston this weekendand Dragons with Ajax still on the schedule. Some scenarios:PF beats Stars - clinches 2 or 3 seedPF beats Boston - PDA Dragons in with 2 ties or 1 winPDA Dragons - needs a win and a tie and they clinch #4 spot Boston wins both games needs PF to lose to Stars or PDA Dragons to not get more than 3 points from 2 games Boston wins 1 game and PDA drops both
NYCSL NPL Playoffs TBDMassapequa vs STANJ Crush vs NYSC--------------------Massapequa over STANJ Crush over NYSC - sorry :(Massapequa wins it all - still goin gwith my early season pickGS4 life
pts (gp) North6 (3) NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL (NJ)6 (3) NJCSA Elite (NJ) 3 (4) Albany Alleycats Elite Neko 01/02-NPL (NY)0 (2) TSF Academy 01/02G 0 (4) Jersey United Soccer Spartans 01/02G NPL (NJ)pts (gp) South15 (5) Lehigh Valley United 01 Girls (PA)6 (3) South Jersey Elite Barons '01G NPL (NJ) 6 (3) FC Copa Academy G01 NPL Lima (NJ) 6 (4) NJ Rush 01 Girls Blue(NJ)pts (gp) this week's games 6 (3) NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL (NJ)0 (4) Jersey United Soccer Spartans 01/02G NPL (NJ)6 (3) NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL (NJ)6 (3) NJCSA Elite (NJ) 15 (5) Lehigh Valley United 01 Girls (PA)6 (4) NJ Rush 01 Girls Blue(NJ)Still to many un scheduled games for playoff scenarios
GS4 Life,Interesting picks, very unorthodox, and probably border-line lunacy, but hey, I respect your audacity!
checked GotSoccer results there are 2 EDP league matchups between LVU and Wildcats Averbuch in the past 12 months:Nov 2015 Wildcats 6LVU 0May 2015Wildcats 5LVU 0Results pretty similar both times. don't think it was anything to do with injuries. also both games were played at LVU field.
10:43 I also saw that - would make for a very interesting EDP NPL game - Wildcats would go into game thinking they have a cake walk while LVU knows they have to step up their game this has all the making of a "trap game".My Region 1 NPL final predictions - teams going to CO.MassapequaNJ WildcatsPDA AjaxNEFC EliteGS 4 life
Sorry forgot my sleepersNYCSL NPL - NJ Crush, STA & NYSC - I think this one is wide open.EDP NPL - LVUNorthEast NPL - none - but if i had to pick one - PDA DragonsNewEngland NPL - Oakwood
PF NPL may spoil that party
But, we, I, ahhhhh, can we get an honorable mention, too?
GS4LIfe who are qualified so far for NPL Finals and National Cup? the 2 National Championships that will be crowned in Colorado this July.
I miss P? Parent's comments. Please let us know your new nom de guerre.
I can put together that for you give me a little timeAs far as national cup - only NJ Cup is done and NJ Wildcats will represent NJ Cup Champion. Let's not forget 1776, NJCSA and BRYC have qualified for West Virginia also (but I covered all that stuff (NL and NCS) a few days ago)
I was curious if you could list all teams from across the country who have qualified for NPL finals or National Cup so far for U14. Not just from our region 1.
...listed alphabetically by the color of their away jersey. Please include their historical GF, GA and GD and a small bio on each of their coaches and DOCs.
4:05 enjoy4:27 just for you- I would even deliver it personally - NY no charge - NJ/PA you pay for my gas and tollsCO - NPL Finals1. NEFC Elite U14 Girls (MA)2. United Futbol Academy 02G Premier (GA)3. Arizona Arsenal U14 Girls (AZ) 4. De Anza Force 01 Blue (CA)5. FC Florida 01/02G Elite Blue-NPL (FL)6. Eagles White (CA) ** Did not win league - champisnot NPL club7. FC Virginia (VA)8. Omaha Elite Girls Academy Maroon 01/02 (NE)9. Baton Rouge SC '02 Black (LA)10. Lonestars 02G Red SA (TX)11. Eastern Development Program - NPL Division12. New York Club Soccer League - NPL Division13. Northeast Girls NPL14. Northwest Champions League15. South Central Premier League---------------------------------------WV - Region1 Championship (NCS)1. NJCSA Elite-Manalapan (NJ)2. 1776 United3. BRYC4. CT 5. DE6. NYE 7. ME8. MD 9. MA10. NH11. NYW 12. PAW 13. RI14. VT 15. VA 16. WV -------------------------------------CO - US Club National Cup1. NJ Wildcats Averbuch NPL 2. Midwest Regional 3. West Regional 4. Northwest Regional 5. Mid-Atlantic Regional 6. Southeast Regional 7. Connecticut Cup 8. Florida Cup 9. Hawaii State Cup 10. NEP New England Regional Finals 11. New York Cup 12. NorCal State Cup ---------------------------------------TX - USYSA National Championship (NCS)1. Cincinnati United Gold 01/02 (OH) 2. Tennessee SC 20 (TN)3. PSG MI Gators 02 Orange (MI)4. Greater Binghamton United FC (NY-W)5. Region 1 Champion6. Region 2 Champion7. Region 3 Champion8. Region 4 Champion---------------------------------------CA - ECNL Champions League Qualification01. Ohio Premier ECNL U1402. So Cal Blues SC ECNL U1403. FC Virginia ECNL U1404. Michigan Hawks ECNL U1405. Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U1406. East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U1407. Washington Premier ECNL U14 08. MVLA ECNL U1409. Tophat Soccer Club Tophat SC ECNL U1410. FC Dallas ECNL U1411. Concorde Fire ECNL U1412. Match Fit Academy ECNL U1413. Eclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U1414. Arsenal FC ECNL U1415. TSC Hurricane ECNL U1416. Real Colorado ECNL U14
PS. yes i have no life and I live in my parents basement all 7 of us.;)
Ok, I'll stir the pot. When I look at Youth Soccer Rankings, which I am a big fan of, NJCSA is really not in the league as the other teams listed above. When looking at their GS standing as compared to the record of other teams, it really points out the problems with GS rankings. Note , I take nothing away from the blood sweat and tears those girls have spent. That said, for the purpose of discussion, how does NJCSA end up representing NJ as the state's best in the regionals? Is it simply the weird team alignment in leagues and the fact that NPL Northeast and ECNL don't do states? In many states, the state champion is....the state's proven best team.
8:41 i like your post I will take those lists and provide both GS and their YouthSoccer ranking score. 4:27 i take it back your request is to hard I'm not that skilled
WV - Region1 Championship (NCS)(#GS Nationally) - [YSR]35.49 (18) BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB YC ELITE 34.25 (58) UNITED FC 1776 XTREME 32.67 (5) NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN 
TX - USYSA National Championship (NCS)(#GS Nationally) - [YSR]36.20 (20) CINCINNATI UNITED SC CUP GOLD 35.66 (33) TENNESSEE SC 20 35.57 (2) PSG MI NOVA GATORS ORANGE 34.63 (30) GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC 
CO - US Club National Cup(#GS Nationally) - [YSR]34.67 (14) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL 
So my comment so far is that either NJCSA's numbers proves that YSR is crap or that GS is crap. Given some simple team vs team comparison, I think YSR is much more accurate. If you agree, then if you look at NJCSA vs other NJ teams on YSR, they can't be called the state's best. So is the state tourney for NJ broken since it doesn't really field the team required?
CO - NPL Finals(#GS Nationally) - [YSR]36.85 (4) NEFC ELITE 34.97 (82) UNITED FA PREMIER R3 NL 34.89 (34) ARIZONA ARSENAL SC PREMIER TEAL 34.58 (29) DE ANZA FORCE NPL  aka ECNL34.35 (128) FC FLORIDA ELITE BLUE NPL 34.12 (165) LONESTAR SC RED SA 33.72 (214) FC VIRGINIA 33.41 (103) ELITE GIRLS ACADEMY MAROON OMA 32.04 (371) BATON ROUGE SC BLACK 
Is it that NPL teams can't play in states? Why -- political reasons? I know ECNL cannot. Ultimately, there is a lot of business and politics that keeps teams from competing equally for a unified first prize. The sad part is that there are teams like NEFC, Wildcats, 1776, Oakwood, etc. who aren't in the exclusive clubs -- not to mention the PDA NPL teams who are better than many ECNL teams -- that have a hard time claiming ascendency because they are in the same mix as the NJCSA's of the world. Again -- no disrespect to the girls themselves and their very hard work.
CA - ECNL Champions League Qualification37.33 So Cal Blues SC ECNL U14 36.42 FC Dallas ECNL U14 36.35 East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14 35.97 FC Virginia ECNL U14 35.76 Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U14 35.70 Michigan Hawks ECNL U14 35.59 Concorde Fire ECNL U14 35.58 Real Colorado ECNL U14 35.43 TSC Hurricane ECNL U14 35.41 Washington Premier ECNL U14  35.37 Ohio Premier ECNL U14 35.31 Arsenal FC ECNL U14 35.27 Match Fit Academy ECNL U14 34.22 Tophat Soccer Club Tophat SC ECNL U14 33.80 Eclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U14 32.74 MVLA ECNL U14 
Honorable mention - teams not qualified yet or eliminated from National titles mentioned on this boardCT35.15 OAKWOOD SC (CT) 34.73 FSA FC ECNL (CT) 34.51 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) MA35.03 FC STARS OF MASS MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) 34.67 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA) 34.21 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ACADEMY ELITE (MA) MD34.62 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 34.27 BETHESDA SC ECNL (VA) 33.88 FC FREDERICK (MD) 33.44 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) 32.78 CALVERT SA CESC ELITE (MD) NJ35.63 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) 34.39 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ) 33.40 MATCH FIT ACADEMY NPL (NJ) 33.33 NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE NPL (NJ) 33.20 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI NPL (NJ) 33.17 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NORTH NPL (NJ) 33.00 MORRIS UNITED SA STA NPL (NJ) 32.92 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ) 32.73 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JUNIOR FC FUSION (NJ) 32.63 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS NPL (NJ) 32.54 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE FUSION (NJ) NY33.95 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE) 33.93 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) 33.19 ATLETICO FC ISA NPL (NYE) 33.09 NEW YORK SC (NYE) 32.74 MASSAPEQUA SC NPL (NYE) 32.71 MANHATTAN SC NPL (NYE) PA35.06 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE) 34.93 PENN LEGACY FC BLACK (PAE) 34.41 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED (PAE) 33.32 PENN FUSION SA NPL (PAE) 33.20 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) 33.20 PENN UNITED FORCE FC (PAE) 32.68 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL (PAE) 
Sorry got lazy and sleepy no GS numbers for the last 2 lists. But to answer your question - If you remove the 2 ECNL teams and NJ Wildcats and Ajax - NJCSA right there with all of them 33.40 vs 32.67 is less than a goal games can go in any direction. So all it took was the Wildcats getting knocked out and the NJ NCS became anyones game. let's see how hey do in West Virginia, I say they do better than DE, WV and some of those New England state NCS champs.GS 4 Life
9:51 Good luck NJCSA beating any team of any top quality. That just doesn't/has not happened, unless they get a few kids from Boca to guest for them. And even then it's a stretch.
appreciate the data!
They do have the boca players rostered for both NJYSA state cup roster and NPL roster.Those parents play all the angles and have full control of their kids soccer careers.
Wonder how that will work when they go off on their own away from home and Mommy and Daddy to play in college.
who says they will be playing in college?
Hi Mommy- Daddy Guy! Missed you!
Because they are the best players on whatever team they play...and if they don't make the team, it was a political decision...:)
Gs4 life. Can you do an overlay of u14/13 to look at the top 15 ranked from youthsoccer rankings. As you probably know the point score theoretically goes across age groups and gender so could be interesting preview to u15. Thanks
Well yes 6:40 and when they have to stand and compete on their own and the first time things don't go well then they will look over their shoulders for Mommy and Daddy who will not be there in college to fix things with the coach and pfft, they are on the bus back home.
@7:17 – I am not GS4Life, but I am a YSR follower and was intrigue by your question and looked into it. Looking at just Region 1, an overlay does not yield the type of result that I think you are looking for because the current U14 rankings are almost a full point higher than the U13 rankings. Only two U13 teams, PDA Crew and FC Stars would break into the top 20 of the U14 teams in Region 1. PDA and FC Stars are #1 and #2 at U13 with scores of 34.51 and 34.45 respectively. These scores would place them between #16 Connecticut FC and #17 LVU in the U14 rankings, which have respective scores of 34.51 and 34.41.A comparison between the top 20 YSR teams in Region 1 at U13 and the top 20 YSR teams in Region 1 at U14 yields just six clubs with top 20 representatives in each of the age groups. These teams are as follows: Team/Club U13 Rank/Score U14 Rank/Score #Change U13>U14PDA #1/34.51 #4/35.62 -3FC Stars #2/34.45 #9/35.03 -7PDA South #5/33.82 #18/34.38 -13PF #12/33.29 #8/35.05 +4FC VA #14/33.19 #3/35.97 +11FC Boston #18/33.02 #12/34.66 +6MD United #20/32.94 #14/34.62 +6From the comparison, it is evident that the ECNL effect kicks in at U14 with the ECNL programs moving ahead of the NPL and USYS teams/clubs.
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So i looked closely at nj. Looks like 5 u13 are in top 15. Pda galaxyRush blue u13 (better ranking than rb u14)Pda southSdfc ArsenalThe assumption would be that u13s gain a little strength and u14 would get a little weaker. Obviously pda and rush may field some super teams. Thought it was interesting. Region one too many top teams. Need to look state by state.
Why would the U14s get a little weaker? they are adding girls who have been playing u15.
U14 teams would be getting weaker because they are losing their oldest half while u13 teams could theoretically gain older players. Just think of next year as u14.5.
I'm quite shocked that somehow the discussion came back around to propping up NJ!!!
yes, njcsa is good using players from another team. It is legal, allowed and good for soccer over all. When boca two girls play with njcsa they are real good and they will be joining them I believe in WV. The 3 girls up front are lethal and score many goals. I believe njcsa has a 4th that is also very, very good.
Nice to be able to pluck another team's players for key eventsMore admirable to use your own.But good luck to them.
NJCSA's coach is a good used car salesman. He uses other teams players alot. Hopefully they are available to him next year after he loses a few of his core players.
Lethal! Perhaps they should be on the Storm!
Youth Soccer rankings top 10 NON-ECNL teams region1U1536.35 PRINCETON SA IGFA NPL (NJ) 36.23 ISA MIA NPL (NYE) 36.00 NORTHERN VA SC (VA) 35.89 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY HORNETS (NJ) 35.79 ARLINGTON SA COMETS RED (VA) 35.74 INTERNATIONAL SA HBC IMPACT (NYE) 35.63 NORTH UNITED ELITE (PAW) 35.46 CHANTILLY SC YOUTH ASSOCIATION (VA) 35.44 ISA INTENSE SA NPL 00 (NYE) 35.30 PREMIER SC STRIKERS (MD) 35.29 CENTURY V GOLD (PAW) U1435.49 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB YC ELITE (VA) 35.15 OAKWOOD SC (CT) 34.93 PENN LEGACY FC BLACK (PAE) 34.66 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL (NJ) 34.62 GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC (NYW) 34.41 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED (PAE) 34.39 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ) 34.25 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 34.21 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ACADEMY ELITE (MA) 34.11 EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER (NYW) U1333.98 NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) 33.87 PIPELINE SC PLSC BLACK (MD) 33.82 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ) 33.69 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ACADEMY ELITE (MA) 33.68 HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC (PAE) 33.50 SDFC 09 RAGE (NJ) 33.27 NORTH UNITED FC RUSH (PAW) 33.13 NORTHERN STEEL STORM (PAW) 33.12 GPS BOSTON MA NPL (MA)  33.09 SUSA FC LONG ISLAND (NYE) that U14 top 10 looks pretty spot on - who else can we work in? PS. NEFC was excluded as they will be ECNL next season33.88 FC FREDERICK (MD) 33.52 BEACH FC RED (VA) 33.43 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD) 33.38 SEACOAST UNITED STORM SC ELITE CS (NH) 33.33 NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE NPL (NJ) 33.32 PENN FUSION SA NPL (PAE) 33.24 GPS BOSTON MA NPL (MA) 33.20 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) 33.20 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI NPL (NJ) 
The U14 list is crapBut YSR has their process.....
2:05 NJCSA has a very good attacking forward and not much else on their regular roster... then they add Boca and others for tournaments. Keep in mind that they also usually play flight 3 teams/tournaments so they are selling success without being very good. Just like 3:09 said. If you are new, and joining that team for the fall... DON'T!
On the U14 list -- I think it is pretty accurate, though I think there are some teams that are trending in different directions this spring. Penn Legacy is trending down (see cup tournament), 1776 trending up, and South Shore should really be quite a bit higher. I think that Binghamton is trending down and I have a feeling that Oakwood may be number 1. In the second group, PF NPL and Harford are trending higher given their spring seasons. PAC is a tough one. They have not been great in the spring, though they did well in the State Cup tourney.
Having seen 8 of the 10 teams play at U14, I'd say other than having South Shore way too low, that list is very accurate. Oakwood vs. BRYC would be a good game but I'd take BRYC.
All that is left of PL is the legacy.
using the U14 top 10 list going to U16 for Region1 teamsNL = National LeagueNPL = National Premier LeagueSRCL = Region1 CLNational league teams get 7 games while NPL teams get 3 or 4 at the NPL finals which would be the equivalent to National League.The top 4 teams in the National league (2 from each division) will also getan additional 3 to 4 games at the USYSA National Championships. That is some great exposure for these teams.Would love to see USYSA and ECNL put aside their differences since we will have a GDA and send their champion and runner up to a True National event hosted by either one with an alternating scheduleNL = BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB YC ELITE (VA) NL = GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC (NYW) NL = UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) NL = SOUTH SHORE SELECT ACADEMY ELITE (MA) NPL EDP = NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL (NJ) NPL EDP = LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED (PAE) RCL = PENN LEGACY FC BLACK (PAE) RCL = EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER (NYW) NPL NewEngland =OAKWOOD SC (CT) NPL NorthEast =PDA SOUTH NPL (NJ) 
12:08 How do you have Wildcats Averbuch top 2 in EDP NPL when they have a loss already against Rush (4-2) Are you assuming they will be in second place at end of season ? Are they playing LVU ? If they beat LVU then maybe they will be second place. Check the standings so far you will see.
12:25 relax there pal - the breakdown is of the top 10 non ecnl YouthSoccerRankings broken down by league. Sorry but your NJ Rush NPL wasn't in the top 10 so they weren't listed in the top 10 but I still listed them as honorable mention a few posts back. The post was more about strength of league than the top 2.34.66 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL (NJ) 33.33 NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE NPL (NJ) PS. I know the standings I post them every week.
12:25 you did give me an idea - Using Youth Soccer rankings the top 5 from each league that advances their champion** Playoffs - every league that has a playoff the Final $ are in the top 5 - not bad Youth Soccer rankings not bad at all - now if you could just get rid of the duplicates and get the states right.RCL35.50** BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB YC ELITE (VA)  34.93 PENN LEGACY FC BLACK (PAE) 34.63** GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FC (NYW) 34.25** UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)  34.21** SOUTH SHORE SELECT ACADEMY ELITE (MA)  NPL - NewEngland35.15 OAKWOOD SC (CT) 33.88 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS SOCCER NORTH ELITE NPL (MA) 33.62 NEFC PREMIER NORTH (MA) 33.38 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE CS (NH)  33.24 GPS BOSTON MA NPL (MA)  NPl - EDP34.67** NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL (NJ) 34.41** LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED (PAE) 33.33 NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE NPL (NJ) 32.67** NJCSA ELITE MANALAPAN (NJ)  32.63 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS NPL (NJ)  NPL - NorhtEast34.39** PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ) 33.40** MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL (NJ) 33.32** PENN FUSION SA NPL (PAE) 33.18** PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NORTH NPL (MD)  32.95 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS SOCCER NPL (MA)  NPL - NYCSL33.20** NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI NPL (NJ)  33.18 ATLETICO FC ISA NPL (NYE)  33.09** NEW YORK SC NPL (NYE)  32.99** MORRIS UNITED SA STA NPL (NJ)  32.74** MASSAPEQUA SC NPL (NYE) NPL - Virginia33.72 FC VIRGINIA (VA) 33.04 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB (VA) 32.93 PRINCE WILLIAM COURAGE SOCCER (VA) 31.96 NORTHERN VA SC 31.81 CHANTILLY SC CYA COUGARS  GS 4 life
None of these lists makes sense, or is remotely relevant, since my kids team was not mentioned.So there!
12:08 - Although it is yet to be officially seen, PL may not be eligible for the U16 RCL because it will most likely not be able to demonstrate the minimum 9 player continuity of roster from what was the U14 team. One requirement for RCL eligibility is that all teams must demonstrate a continuity of roster from the previous year to the current year. To demonstrate continuity of roster, a minimum of 9 of the players from the team's previous year roster must be on the team's current roster. This rule is prior to BYC, so perhaps it might be relaxed one time only in recognition of the BYC upheaval.
That's not quite right as they changed the rules to account for the BYC. The new rule is:Teams applying for the 2016-17 National League season must have competed in the 2015-16 US Youth Soccer National Championship Series competition and must have on their 2016-17 team roster no fewer than nine US Youth Soccer registered players that were on that team’s 2015-16 roster or from within a 2015-16 team roster from within their club. The National League application period opens around June 8 and closes on July 7.http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/us_youth_soccer_national_league_announces_allocation_spots_for_2016-17_expansion/?CategoryId=14499&Year=2016&pg=2So instead of 9 players carrying over from that team's roster, it only needs to be 9 players "from within their club." So if PL's u16 team next year consists solely of players from the current U15 team, that team would still be eligible for National League even though none of those players played on the team that actually earned the spot.
A true "Legacy" in the legal sense of the word.
Carli Lloyd appearance in Chatham in June? Where's Chatham?!
next to Morristown NJ
Next yearAny input on teams for next year for 2001sPDAMFWorld ClassSTACrushNJ Wildcats2002sPDAMFWorld ClassSTACrushNJ Wildcats
from what I am hearing2001sPDA will be strong, again its PDAMF decent team, Picked up new players to mixWorld Class decent teamSTA Will be Ok, lost several playersCrush did not hear muchNJ Wildcats Will not be strong, most players are 02s2002sPDA will be strong, again its PDAMF Lost players, replacements are not up to par. will be averageWorld Class will be strong wit additionsSTA Lost many players, picked up several 2002s. Middle of packCrush did not hear mcuNJ Wildcats will be strong with returning players
5:35 you can do better than that PDA has 4 teams, MF has 3 and so does World Class so which of these teams will be strong?
Why not play the games. Looking forward to an interesting fall for a change as the teams will be less same old same old.
why come to this blog if your answer is to wait and see? we are here for the polarizing predictions!
NPL Finals COU14 Qualified per NPL site:Arizona Arsenal (AZ)Baton Rouge SC '02 Black (LA)De Anza Force ECNL (CA)FC Florida (FL)FC Virginia (VA)Omaha Elite Girls Academy (NE)------------------------------League Champions not updated yetLonestars 02G Red SA (TX)Claremont Stars SC 01 (CA)United Futbol Academy 02G Premier (GA)Crossfire Premier ECNL G02 (WA)NEFC Elite (MA)Playoffs:South Central Premier LeagueLiverpool FC America (TX) vs Express SC (TX)Space City FC (TX) vs Oklahoma FC (OK)NY Club Soccer LeagueMassapequa (NY) vs STA (NJ)NJ Crush (NJ) vs NYSC (NY)Northeast Girls NPL PDA Ajax (NJ) vs PDA Dragons (NJ) or FC Boston (MA)Match Fit (NJ) vs PennFusion (PA)Eastern Development Program LVU (PA) vs NJ Wildcats (NJ) or NJCSA (NJ)NJ Wildcats (NJ) or NJCSA (NJ) vs NJ Rush (NJ) or SJEB (NJ)GS4 life
good post. that took some number crunching.
Is PDA Ajax aka South still NorthEast NPL next season? website does not say NPL
Congrats to Match Fit in making ECNL Finals.I personally would like to provide a special shout out to the Old NJX coach and the Old MF\Jefferson coach. These 2 special people are the cornerstones of this team and its success. I don't want MF to take credit for this team
Also congrats to MFA, and shout out to the club for delivering excellence on the girls side for 10 years plus.
MFA will always be second rate compared to Boca.
8:19 Club has no home grown kids. Please give it a rest on Mfa providing excellence. I almost puked in my mouth when I read that Blog
No congrats to MFA - Congratulate the players - they came to MFA trained and excelled despite the incompetence this past year at MFA. Hopefully it changes for all the new players coming in, bc my daughter and many others are leaving because of it. Good luck at Nationals and good luck at your new teams next year.
7:12 Coach, please stop. No wonder you were let go. Stop patting yourself on the back, it's obvious and terribly wrong. Before you go, you actually insist on posting stupidity about what you did, and that you are taking a handful of kids with you. Who cares, time for you to move on. The kids that go with you deserve better than you. They will win despite you because they are talented and driven kids... They're good despite you, not because of you. Get over yourself already.Let's see next season how MFA does BEFORE you say that they won't be good.Homegrown? Who has homegrown kids at u14? Boca can't shine MFA's shoes.. how many D1 athletes come from Boca, or WC for that matter? Idiotic post 9:00Giving credit to old coaches who recruited kids is like giving credit to Bryce Harper's success to the scout that recruited him. Another moronic post.9:35 MFA fired the incompetence, the players were trained properly, and professionally and they moved ahead.
NJ Crush has 38 points with STA having 2 games in hand, crush just gave STA a lifeline.Both teams beat the other 1-0 which brings us to the Goal differentail tie breaker.Crush is at +28 and STAis at +19 many would I hate to be the Stallionsif STA beats Quickstrike by as mall margin. IF STA can get wo wins with a 8+ goal differential they get 1 seed. What happened to all teams finishing on the same day?1. Head to Head2. Goal differential (maximum of 8 goals per game)3. Fewest goals allowed
NJ Crush score is wrong. Crush won 2-0
NJ soccer is always so angry!
Good to see Crush finally net a couple.
Thanks 10:50So Crush would then clinch the 1 seed. NJ Crush vs NYSC - their regular season game ended in a 1-1 tieMassapequa vs STA - Massapequa won 2-1 in the regular season
Stop with the no homegrown players. If you show up at a club at age 9-12 and leave there with a D1 scholarship at age 18, the club gets credit. I understand you are mad. Wish you the best wherever you are going.
Homegrown players are nice (MLS Clubs keep more money when they transfer them)The top of the pyramid doesn't care - see below requirement for GDA:"Please list any female player from your club since 2011 that has featured with the YNT or WNT. Please only include players that have played for two (2) or more years with your club."2 years is all that's needed at a club and it could be U17 and U18 to claim the player and i'm okay with this as long as the player is with the club or was the last club. I would have a problem if they had a player for U9, U10, U11 & U12 and then cut the player because they thought she wasn't good and then used her name for marketing if the player ever made it big.
10:42 you keep pointing your finger to the coach. I wrote the post. I can assure you that I am not a coach, I am a parent on the sidelines. Credit is due to the 2nd old coaches for their time and work over the years. BTW I will thank them in person as well again when I see them
I agree they deserve credit, but so does the club. The old coach has his own club, and also is now the 2002 ECNL coach and NPL Director for World Class,so he landed on his feet. Some could argue that this was all in the works for some time. Probably from when the field deal blew up and they saw the writing on the wall.
Agree it is a bit unfair that MatchFit gets all the blame for these coaches that leave the club. The Ex-MatchFit guy now at Cedar Stars is said to have had serious personal issues.
PA ParentTypically in work field if employees constantly leave can be for various of reason's. Unstable environment, poor management, poor working conditions or has to do with money. I have no knowledge of MF, typically as an HR person, 95% of time it's internal causing poor work conditions and high turnover
SUSA FC Long Island have reached an agreement with Intense Soccer Academy LTD to unify the clubs under the SUSA FC club umbrella, effectively creating New York’s largest and most competitive soccer club. “SUSA FC Long Island is a team aligned behind a vision to change the culture of soccer on Long Island. SUSA’s youth soccer cultural shift has focused on three critical and necessary approaches to a NEW CLUB/ACADEMY MODEL:In view of the upcoming age group reorganization mandate announced by US Soccer, SUSA FC is now positioned to offer the highest quality birth year teams on Long Island. Consolidated lists of Tryouts will follow in the next week.10:57 I agree how about poor recruitment? MF at this age group took 2 top teams Jefferson/NJX thinking that by taking the best players from both they would have a super team. Unfortunately, many wanted their cake and they wanted to eat it as well. The club gave the ECNL/NPL opportunity to both teams for it's top players. Not knowing what really happened and just by reading the rants on this board it sounds like you had the Club MF, and the 2 teams fighting for control. The danger in taking an entire team instead of tryouts.Let's see how the NJ Rush/SJEB merger works. Did they transfer some players to SJEB already? Team results looking strong lately while NJ Rush results not as good.
10:42 Youre back.. here we go again. Really sad. You took a few weeks off and your blood pressure went way down. Now that the so called "ex" posted about his girls accomplishments, you start raging again. I really dont get it. Youre daughter will be fine next year. Sure your team is taking some steps backwards as most clubs are headed in the opposite direction. Give it a few years. Good luck in San Diego.
SJEB '01G NPL First 5 games +1 Goal differential 3-1-1last 4 games +7 goal differnetial 4-0-0 against some good teams at the same level0:2 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS4;3 NJCSA ELITE1:1 PDA SHORE FUSION1:0 REAL SOUNDERS2:1 WALL SC WAVE----------------------------------------1:0 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 015:4 UPPER 90 FURY2:1 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE5:1 NJ WILDCATS GALAXYWhile NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE NPL First 5 games +7 goal differential 4-1-0 lst 4 games +0 goal differential 2-0-22:0 REAL SOUNDERS2:2 UPPER 90 FURY4:2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL1:0 PDA SHORE FUSION2:0 WALL SC WAVE---------------------------------------1;2 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA3;2 ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL1;2 SJEB '01G NPL1:0 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY
SJEB/Rush merger does not take effect until 2016/17 season. At this point all games for both teams have been played by existing 2015/16 rosters.
Delco less than a week away, predictions?
There are things called injuries , that's why some teams lose. But teams have to deal with what they have left. Even the best teams lose at times.
why the comparison with Rush and SJE ? Who has a beef with Rush? SJE I assume? Well SJE is being combined with Rush B team next year, we'll see how well they do then. Plus SJE they are losing their 2002 players.
Any results from edp open cup?
Why wouldn't SJE be combining with Rush A team? And who said anything about a beef with rush? The successes of the teams seem to have reversed as the year went on, leading someone to speculate that players had already merged to one team (in this case, SJE, because their play seems to have improved, while Rush's seems to have declined, based on record and GD). Nobody is picking on anyone.In the last week, I've learned that at least one Rush parent is EXTREMELY sensitive.
Since we are discussing SJEB, any predictions (final results) for their Weekend games?SJEB vs NYSCSJEB vs PWSI COURAGESJEB vs CALVERT ELITEWould love to hear from the faithful, and the unfaithful....
12:54 you must be a SJE parent for posting only results of SJE and Rush games. That was why the comments. Is the merger making you made you had to post your results? Rush has injuries right now but by next season they will be back and kick your newly formed team. Not sure why the A team stayed together but who cares. I am a friend of the Rush team, who cares anyway. They have to grin and bear it for now. Hope your new team meshes well. We will see
Again, super sensitive. Nobody is trashing Rush. And nobody is mad you guys are (or aren't) merging. The results as the year has gone on, all that anyone is questioning. And it's not a stretch to ask if players moved from one team to another already when you see such an inverse shift for the two teams this Spring. Ok, we get it. Players are hurt. Question answered. That's a really big chip on your shoulder for someone who's not even with either club.
1:09 I've been linked to many teams, but if you read my post and the one before it where I said MF recruitment may have been and issue where u14 had a three headed monster all wanting control. Then I said we'll see how the SJEB/Rush merger goes and asked if the transferred a player or two already. Like 12:54 pointed out and my results show teams going in opposite directions.Injuries? Dropped a game to Copa has to be more than 1 player this was a F4 team at Jefferson or maybe we gave them to much credit? You want a negative post now you have one.1:29 I agree - but I gave him/her reason to be upset now. I just said they got dropped by Copa
NPL Playoffs winner goes to COLORADONPL Northeast1 PDA North 01 NPL vs4 PDA South 01 NPL 2 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL vs3 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL --------------------------NPL NYCSL E1 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01vsW2 STA NPL-01W1 NJ Crush FC NPL-01vsE2 New York Soccer Club NPL-01----------------------------NPL EDP - not set yet games remaining in ( )S1 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 01 GIRLS (1)vsN2 NJCSA ELITE (2)N1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (2)vsS2 SJEB '01G NPL (3)
12:47 do you know SJB 02 are leaving for sure? Where are they going?
6:29 Some are staying and playing 2002 birth year, I heard PDA for some. Not sure.
All 2002 left MFA... Only 4 2003 stayed...
Know for a fact not all 2002's left MFA. You should really post fact not fiction.
6:57 All 02's from MF are leaving... with the exception of the 6 who are staying
Well, how the hell is that ALL???
So what’s the story with NJ Crush losing to NY Rush, and STA losing to Quickstrike, are you guys for real???
Todays NPL north results up online:NJ Wildcats Averbuch 4NJCSA Elite/Cedar Stars 0Looks like LVU and Wildcats NPL will get top 2 seeds for semifinal games in NPL Playoffs.
Some EDP Action TodayPts (games left)D1 North 20 (0) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL16 (1) SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT16 (0) RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 12 (1) BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE ------------------------------------RELEGATION ZONE6 (2) ALLEYCATS ELITE NEKO 01/02-NPL4 (4) NJCSA ELITE4 (3) HBC SPARK 3(2) GPS NJ FLASH 0 (3) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G------------------------------------D2 North------------------------------------PROMOTION22 (0) FC BERNA LEGACY 01G------------------------------------18 (1) STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOTSHOTS17 (1) CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE11 (1) LAGRANGE RAGE 10 (2) STA MORRIS UNITED 01 10 (2) SABA BROOKLYN CITY 9 (1) NHP WILDCATS LADY JAGUARS8 (1) SDFC SAMBA 2 (1) PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02 0 (4) JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL
Some EDP Action TodayPts (games left)D1 Central19 (0) SJEB '01G NPL14 (2) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS 13 (2) NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE 10 (1) REAL SOUNDERS 9 (1) NJ WILDCATS GALAXY 8 (2) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 ------------------------------------RELEGATION ZONE6 (0) PDA SHORE FUSION4 (1) WALL SC WAVE 4 (1) UPPER 90 FURY------------------------------------D2 Central------------------------------------PROMOTION ZONE17 (2) WARRINGTON FC BOMBERS14 (1) MERCER FC SPURS 13 (3) JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION -----------------------------------13 (1) HUB SOCCER OF DENVILLE LIGHTNING13 (0) WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER '02 10 (0) HADDONFIELD SC LIGHTNING5 (4) FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA4 (4) NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREY4 (2) THISTLE COMETS 2 (3) OCEAN TOWNSHIP UNITED SA HURRICANES
Did NJCSA Cedar Stars bring their ringers from Boca today to stack their team for seeding and NPL Playoffs?
Some more EDP Action TodayPts (games left)D1 South15 (0) PIPELINE BLACK 12 (0) RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA11 (1) HFC READY '01 10 (0) BETHESDA STORM 01 9 (0) CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE 7 (0) PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM 5 (0) PHWM SC PUMAS 4 (1) SEVP BLACK THUNDER ------------------------------------RELEGATION ZONE6 (0) PDA SHORE FUSION4 (1) WALL SC WAVE 4 (1) UPPER 90 FURY------------------------------------D2 South------------------------------------PROMOTION ZONEPENN LEGACY1776 UNITEDHARFROD UNITED THUNDER18 (0) LTSC STRIKERS 01/02 (PURPLE) 17 (0) SAC PREMIER BLUE -----------------------------------13 (0) SAC PREMIER WHITE 12 (2) MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01G 10 (2) MONTGOMERY BLAZE WHITE 6 (0) LDC UNITED CREW 01-02 5 (2) ALLIANCE SC ARSENAL4 (3) FREEDOM FSC PREMIER 02 1 (1) PIPELINE SC RED
Just updated1 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE5 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS
Recognized 3 Boca girls from last weeks state cup semi playing with NJCSA/Cedar Stars today.Didn't make a difference. Wildcats just play a much faster game on turf fields.
8:51Quickstrike is on a winning streak. Crush did not lose - the score was misreported.
#1 team in NJ. NJCSA
10:46 - Obviously you're being sarcastic. I think their party is over, no one bought into GS point accumulation, except for some of the players and most of the parents. When they can't compete with a good team, with guests, it has to be time to move. This would be the age to attach your kid to a good club and without 3 parent-coaches.
All the 02s are leaving MF except for the 14 that are staying...:) hahhahahahahahahahahahaha
predictions for Delco?
Yes, I have a prediction, EDP Cup better tournament, with less travel, better fields, good competition, and more GS points. I love points.
So much wrong with that statement, I'll leave it alone....
PDA Storm:Division 1 coach: joke3 u15 national team invitees: curious selections?Multiplie ID camp invitees. Curiou selections?Multiple NTC players. Huh?And Storm can't win a division over a MF team in disarray.Doc needs to look in the mirror and fire himself. Maybe let that wonderful selection of fall coach lead the team. Ha!!Bring home the national trophy MF!!!
7:10 So EDP Cup is more than than 10,000 pts?Sounds like NJ BS
Less competitive, yes
Its actually 500,000 points, and a new car! South Jersey is sooo beautiful this time of year, and so close to Camden!
Did someone really just say "more GS points"? Got Soccer is entertaining and all, but it doesn't cover all league games of the top teams and over-values tournaments that (gasp!) purchase its software! Nobody serious about soccer takes it seriously. For proof of its total lack of accuracy, I give you its 5th best U14 team ,IN THE NATION: http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=747479
I don’t know about that, the team photo looks pretty good, especially the coach on the right, he looks very serious, and a real soccer guy. I also like the uniform colors, although most girls are not big fans of green, as a general rule. I salute them for being #5, salute, salute, salute!!!
25 girls listed on roster. Everyone talks about ECNL bloated rosters.
9:26 That about sums it up. They might not be 5th best team in Central NJ.
I don't see anywhere on this blog that they ever claimed to be. Seriously don't understand all the hate. It's a nice town team that had a good year. They have no delusions of thinking they are a top tier team at all.
Just relax dude, no one is throwing hate at the team, we are all just ribbing you a little, no point in getting your girdle bunched-up, take it as a sign of relevance, besides be grateful your kid doesn’t play for SJEB.
A shame those parents held their kids back. They are clearly falling further behind players they were competitive with a year ago. Parents have to learn to step aside when their child reaches a certain level and stop trying to control every aspect of their soccer career. It certainly doesn't prepare them to step out on their own later on.
#1 Jersey!!!! That's all that matters right?
#1 in Jersey baby!!! That's what counts baby!!
It is a good photo
Truth is they made every shady move to garner those points, even using 2 team names to max points for a year and then combining the 2 teams points to one team last year to shoot up the rankings. Then you have the roster moves to not card Boca for NCS State Cup so you were able combine players from both teams to win in the fall. Now after all that effort to get the false high ranking you want to claim you never aspired to be highly ranked team? Stop with the BS.You gamed the system and now that you have been exposed as a fraud so you want to be left alone?
It isn't about the team or the girls. I agree -- they have done well! The point is that valuing tournaments based on how many GS points you get is a bit silly. Those GS points are fun but aren't really worth much in terms of a ranking and measure of how good you are.
Now we're going to start trashing SJEB out of no where? My guess is that's Angry Rush Parent again.In the last 6-7 months, NJSCA has lost to Galaxy, who lost to SJEB, who lost to Boca, who lost to Rush, who lost to Copa, who lost to Mercer, who lost to Denville, who lost to Randolph, who lost to TBAA, who lost to Cherry Hill, who lost to East Coast Premier Soccer. So ladies and gentlemen, I argue that the #1 team in NJ is now ECPS.
How did I know that a request for Delco predictions would turn back to a NJ blog fest?
10:16So why take it out on the girls. Be angry at the adults all you want.
@10:34 because nobody cares about talking up your team
9:26 I won't let you just say that witha counter.You say it doesn't cover all league game? As you can see from the below once theleague is over GS manually creates an event so teams can get points you claim they don't.NPL Northeast Girls Leaguehttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=42278ECNL 2014/2015 Conference Standingshttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=42284Then you said tournaments are also excluded, that is also not true. The only tournament excluded is the PDA tournament and that is becasuewt hey removed it. GS added it twice only to be removed both times, doubt GS removed it. Wellanyway below aresomemanually entered GS tournamentsNPL Finalshttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?eventid=471902015 US Club Soccer National Cuphttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?eventid=471912015 ECNL National Finalshttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?eventid=47120 USCS Mid-Atlantic Regionalhttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?eventid=47148CASL Girls Showcasehttp://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=49835Then you go on about (gasp!!) purchasing their software? Yupifyoupurchase thesoftware you get the bonus points for winning games. How else do you expect them to make money? of course they should do it all for free regardless of the software used right?No one takes it seriously, you say?What's the difference betweenBeing #1 on GS - playing in 6 tournaments and placing in all 6.Winning US Club national cup - when you can pay an application fee and play in the same regional that State Cup winners play in? What qualifications?Then you make funofa team for winning the NJ State NCS which qualified them for the Region1 Championships in West Virginia.their points6,868 NJ NCS Champion690 NJ Cup2,007 EDP League11,419 6 tournaments which included NEWSS, Bethesda & Spirit.GS4 Life
@10:39, not GS4LUnless it's your NJ team that can only get accepted at EDP Cup?
GS4Life those points in tournaments were all gained by advancing in 2nd and 3rd flights.If there is a knock on GotSoccer I would say it is that a Team playing in Flight 1 of Bethesda, Jefferson Cup, etc. that plays the best teams by far and does not advance out of bracket gets 0 points while a team that goes to semifinals or finals in F2 or F3 and plays much, much weaker teams gets a few thousand points.
A good, true coach, will enter team where there's good competition, not searching for most points. This is why GS has created a dilemna, points DO place you in tournaments...
Agree with 10:48 point. Has to be some way to not benefit teams who play in lower flights to get points. I know coaches who admit they purposely ask for F2 or F3 so they can win some games and have a chance to advance as they know they can't compete in F1. It really makes no sense that those teams can be #1 in their states without ever playing the other top teams in tournament play.that is the biggest issue with Gotsoccer rankings accuracy and is the main reason wy teams are ranked much higher than deserved.
GS is a JOKE
10:48 So why are they at fault because the tournaments put them in lower flights? How is that a knock on them? You can only play the teams they put in front of you and if you place good job.I'm not saying GS is right I like Youth Soccer rankings better, but to blame a team for beating the teams the tournament put in front of them is not right they don't control the flight they are put in. I agree 100% teams using the GS tool should go 100% GS rankings for their flight and if a team that is highly ranked does poorly it should adjust for that also to true up their rankings. So WAGS, Bethesda, Spirit, Disney, Delco, Jefferson & Surff Cup to name a few have bad competition shame on them for using GS and attracting so many good teams that their lower flights also carry many GS points. Shame on you!!
I am sorry but their ranking system of awarding points based on the value of flights and tournaments is fundamentally flawed as it is still reliant on a human judgement call for team placement. And points are held onto way too long. Another example. Take the state cup tournaments. Teams get points for winning state cup as a prize but actual game to game performance is ignored. GS tries to make up for this by awards arbitrary points for ties and beating better teams -- but even those point allotments are subjective values. And the fact is that when you have U14 teams in a state that do not participate in the tournament (ie ECNL), then you cannot use tournament points to rank those non-ecnl teams over the Ecnl teams -- or you would have to add more value to the ECNL league games. Which GS does not because it is not in their best interest to promote league or tournament play that does not benefit them. Matchfit ECNL is the best team in Jersey (besides PDA which pulls itself from GS) and everyone knows it. Wildcats are maybe second. The fact that GS does not reflect this means GS is broken. PF NPL is ranked higher than PF ECNL in PA? No way. GS is broken. East Meadow ECNL is nowhere in the regional top 25 of GS U14 but Wildcats Galaxy is? Ridiculous. GS is broken.And yes, I am sorry to say that you shouldn't rank teams if you are financially benefitting from those teams ranked directly or indirectly. Can you imagine if the NCAAs relied on a private company whose customer was the Rose Bowl to be the judge of the rank of a team who was in the Rose bowl and the judge of a team who was not playing in the Rose Bowl?! It is a simple conflict of interest. Law school 101.
DELCO is a JOKE
I'm always the first to admit that GS is flawed, and I don't think there is anyone who will try to tell you it's 100% accurate, but the teams that play consistently in F1 and don't advance maybe shouldn't be in F1. And teams that win lower flights in most tournaments get far fewer points for those wins, and sometimes only equal to a 3rd or 4th place team in a higher flight. Point being, you need to win a lot of F3s and F4s to equal the teams that win occasionally in F1. And most people can look at the two teams and know that one of them is unquestionably better, so why are you worried?The top three teams in NJ are PDA and MF (I really don't care in what order), then NJ Wildcats Averbuch, then about 10-15 other teams that could all beat each other any given day. Stop worrying about it.
Prediction for Delco tournament...1776 will fail to advance out of their bracket in a major tournament...again.
11:10 I agree team placement kills everything. Also ECNL don't participate by choice - I can provide you with links that show ECNL teams playing in State Cups. ECNL can not play in NCS because they need USYSA State cards. However, they opt out of their US Club State Cup by choice. So then again we kill the teams that play the teams in front of them.How many times has MF or PDA ECNL teams beat NJ Wildcats this season? So you think they are better? The only way we know is if they play and don't win. NJ Wildcats beat LVU 6-0 who beat PDA Storm 2-0 - to make a claim that it is a given that a team is not better before they even play well that shows what exactly?Why is PF, PDA, MF and EM not in the top 25? may be because they have multiple GS accounts? They don't care to check them so why should GS care if they are not in the top 25?11,891 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ4,208 EAST MEADOW SC EAST MEADOW 01G PRE-ECNL15,875 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM4,950 PDA 01G PRE-ECNLOnce the ECNL season is over they will get their ECNL Conference points and if they place at the ECNL finals they will get those points as well.So how do you feel about the US Club Regionals being pay to play instead of qualifying for them like on the USYSA side? is this a conflict of interest or is this not pay to play for a national Title? something about that just sounds wrong what's your take on this 11:10?
Wow -- the 1776 hater. PAC parent? What's your grudge? Why the venom?
11:10 here. My issue with GS has more to do with those parents and coaches who believe that it is the true measuring stick. It is not. YSR is much more accurate and you can see it on the field. GS has two main problems. The "points award" concept and the conflict of interest. The points award system is a blunt instrument that simply is not granular enough to track performance on a game to game basis. The conflict of interest is the other. Why can YSR rank all the teams mentioned but GS can't? (yes, I know YSR has inaccuracies, but at least he tries to fix them!) It isn't because the teams aren't doing their housekeeping on rankings. If you are going to rank teams, it IS your job to make sure the data is accurate regardless of how much love you think you get from a team. The reason GS does not provide granular, complete coverage on a game to game basis and does not clean up their data on top 25 teams is that they are only motivated to help teams and tournaments that help them. I get it's a business, but that's my point. If you are ranking teams, you have to be unbiased by definition. If the ECNL made a deal to run GS software at all its games and tourneys, you would see a complete change in the GS rankings -- and that is the problem.As for pay-to-play for a National Title, I agree that as long as NPL and ECNL, and anyone else, are not playing in a unified tournament, you will always have an asterisk by your name. BTW, ECNL is equally flawed because of the assumption that families will always gravitate toward ECNL clubs and the judgement of those coaches on who is worthy is without fault. The fact is that teams like 1776, NEFC, Oakwood and the Wildcats all prove that assumption is flawed.
Thanks for the back and forth 11:55, you won't get an argument out of me supporting GS - I'm supporting the teams that play in those events and to say their accomplishments are flawed because of the tool well that I don't buy and we can go back and forth on this. PS. the tool should not impact the rankings in any way i agree - the tool is for scheduling and many other things it makes easier. I think they got greedy $$$ when they saw how much people love their rankings. now back to our scheduled trash a team posts, what's our flavor today PAC, 1776, NJCSA, Wildcats, PF, CFC Delco, MF, PDA, Boca, SJEB/NJ Rush
12:19, its obvious, NJ CRUSH!
I personally am against the GS points collector teams for this age and up. Look Girls DA is approaching shortly and if you compare the boys side can you say all those boys MLS academy teams are inferior than the top 10 GS teams NO. GS is great for U12 and under, it's like keeping track of the little world series of baseball but as they get older it's a none factor as many of your better players will eventually flock to clubs that will showcase your dd for college recruiting. Feel free to go look at the Top 2 GS teams at U17/U18 in NY/NJ and I bet it's less than 10% of those girls moving on to play college.
@11;11Sorry your team didn't get accepted at Delco
Boca won't get out of their bracket at DelcoOh wait...they're not playing there
Disney showcase is a joke!!!!Plus I doubt our team will be accepted...:)
boca is playing top bracket at EDP cup this weekend. They are playing some decent teams, then finals could include NYSC, Calvert, pwsi. all great teams in their states and country. I commend Boca for playing top bracket with 4 brackets for U14. boca considered delco but backed out, why drive so far when local action is this good. Teams are coming to NJ from MD, NY, VA. why go to them? Smart of Boca, NJCSA and Barons to luckily slip in top bracket.
Serious question - how much will team performance at Delco and PDA be affected by the team movement that has already been decided. Will there be players who aren't rostered b/c they'll be switching teams? How common is it for a player to decide to guest play with their new team i/o sticking around to help their old team?
12:40 So you are against teams that play Spirit, WAGS, Bethesda, Disney, Jefferson & Delco?So these teams should play in less tournaments? not these tournaments? Explain so if a team is not at this level they shouldn't play in any tournaments? Teams should use different tools that also have their own ranking system? Explain GS Collecting teams. Should teams not place in the tournaments to avoid collecting GS points? What do these points have to do with anything but acknowledging the teams that accumulated points?yes so if the kids are not going to play college they should stop playing now right. Becasue you and the 99% guy say it a waste of time. The only people on here even bringing up college is you guys.We all know shocase events are where to be and it doesn't matter who wins those events. But the games are still played to win and their will still be a prize for the team that wins regardless of who plays in college on a NT or the NWSL.Geez already. We all know the GS top non academy teams can't touch the MLS academy teams and we know the MLS academy teams can't touch the UEFA academy teams so what's your point?
1:20 -- In most cases, I think girls will guest play with new teams IF their old teams are not playing. In general most girls still bond with their old team and wouldn't switch out before they have completed their commitment simply because of the bonds they have with their teammates. I am sure there are exceptions.
1:20 any girls that plays will play to win. Teams will only bring in new players to guest at Delco (I hope for the below reasons)1. If they always use guest players2. They have injuries3. Players left the team and they are short.I don't see a team not dressing a player for a new player and if they did I would leave in a second regardless of who the players are because that means they are for self and not your kid.
@122 sorry let me restate my comment I believe there is a team for every player to play on. What I mean for GS collector teams are those teams that seem to enter all those tournaments you mentioned plus all state cups, region 1 league, NPL Leagues(NY/EDP), and other GS events etc. Those are fine at the younger ages and exciting to parents and pre-teens but as they get older u15+ the parents that are looking to showcase their child will move on with clubs with less endeavor to chase GS points and that will do the bigger showcases like CASL, Disney, PDA or they just will move to an ECNL team.My point being is the back and forth battle about GS points will become irrelevant in the coming years and to the coaches that chase them now will end up losing out as players/parents will become burned out. GL to all this weekend at EDP or Delco as it will be our last hoorah for many with their current teams.
The GS discussion above leaves out the checks and balances built into GS point accumulation. First, points are only good for one year, then they expire. Second, the better a team does, the harder it is to accumulate points because a team's point total is a factor in how many points it is awarded. The bottom line, the GS system is devised to require a team to keep winning at higher and higher levels in order to keep accumulating points. A team may be on top one season, and unless it betters its results the next year, it will fall back in the rankings the next year. True, this system does favor quantity over quality of play just because the law of averages at the higher levels presumes you can't win them all, so a team must play as much as possible to continue to maintain or acquire points. YSR is more quality based, but does rely on a quantity of performance to establish its ratings.
1:38 I agree with everything you said - truth be told all results are irrelevant at all ages prior to college or WPSL, WUSA, NWSL or Internationally the only time results matter. All these leagues use meaningful games blah blah blah it's just away to set up an "impact", "core" and "roster depth" label for players so they can showcase the players they want. But we all buy into it all. GS is a for fun tool that has your rank plain and simple who doesn't like to see they are number 1 or who doesn't want to win a state/regional/national title regardless of the team pool.2:00 Agree 100%. I do like the YouthSoccer ranking score better - but they need to fix some duplicates and get teams listd in the correct states, once that is done the scores will be even better. But I also love the GS tool, they could do the same thing it they wanted but the way they do it doesn't bither me because as you stated NJCSA Manalapan currently is at 20,000 points so you deduct 4,000 points from any flight value right from the start. If they play in a 10,000 pt flight their max is 6,000 if they win, 3000 if they are a finalist and 1,500 if the flight has more than 8 teams. If they play in non major events where the flight value is 6,ooo their max for winning is only 2,000,
Question for the board...most overrated PA and NJ team...most underrated PA and NJ team?
most overrated:MA - SouthShoreNJ - NJCSAMD - HarfordPA - YMSNY - Atleticomost underrated:CT - OakwoodPA - LVUMD - FC FrederickNY - MassapequaNJ - STA
Massapequa? You have got to be a parent on that team, because only a parent would be brain-washed enough to think that they are underrated, please. Their noble style of play has created a team of 20 defenders, no creativity on the ball, not even the lone striker, who looks like a defender, get out of her with Massapequa, please.
Yeah add massapequa to my list of teams at least you got the state right but long island? that's almost as bad as westchester or staten island. You asked for a list so i gave you a list. So they can't play possession and create, I see they still win and played Storm to a tie, the other team still has to break them down with passes in tight spaces right, quick one touch passing? maybe the teams that can't aren't as good as they think they are? This team knows what it is and plays to it's strength what ever that may be, why should they play to another team's strength? Aren't you as good as the stats say you are 2:53? I see NYCSL NPL East #1 seed - who would have said that at the beginning of the year? I picked them as my sleeper and got flack then as well probably from you. My pick to win it (NYSC) at least made the playoffs so I'm still aliveGS4
11:35Please, that could be a parent of a few dozen teams.
GS4, how is Crush doing these days, you guys ready for Delco?
"Gotsoccer is a joke"YSR has issues as well
NYSC is just bitter they lost to Massapequa for the NPL East crownI wonder if they beat Mass on a hand ball goal.
By the way - of course PDA is a better team but when you call the PDAs and Match Fits of the world, its hard for a team like Manalapan to get a friendly
Crush is the #1 seed in the NYCSL NPL West division and will play NYSC in a semi final game. Of course I have NYSC winning this and playing Massapequa in an all NY final with a trip to Colorado on the line.Okay not sure if it was you but someone has tried to get us talking about Delco - so i will start with my can't miss predictionsmy Final4sChampionshipNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)WAZA FC EAST 02 BLACK (MI)BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE (MA)EliteNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)PremierSEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02 (NH)MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE NPL (NYE)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)GS4
NJCSA girls should start guesting for Bocca. Bocca is a much better team and play better soccer
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