It does say on website that top flights and u16-u18Have turf fields as a back up, so they will at least get to play
They lost a lot of money last week, and canceling this weekend would be disastrous for them, that said, they may forgo all grass-field games, so u-10-u12 might not happen, but our games are on turf. It just shapes up as a miserable playing environment, such is a soccer-life!
Jeff CupTop bracket plays at Striker Park1 turf field there2nd bracket plays at Ukrops Park0 turf field3rd bracket plays at Stratton park2 turf fields4th,5th & 6th bracket plays at Dorey park0 turf fields7th bracket plays at Warhill SC GrassBu there are 7 turf fields there8th & 9th bracket plays at James county0 turf fieldsSo there are turf fields around to use if the weather gets bad but will they switch to them?
I think that at this point they should seriously consider moving all games to only turf fields, otherwise you are going to have some really sloppy games this weekend, and weeks of serious complaining on this board.
There has already been years of serious complaining here, why stop now. :)
I know, I know, but what happened to the positive and encouraging blog that one poster tried to start, it lasted like 2 hours, oh well.Personally, my daughter would be devastated to not go to Jeff Cup, she loves staying at a hotel and hanging with her teammates outside of the soccer field, especially since she does not go to school with any of them, its a chance to just a chance to be a young lady, and we all know that girls just want to have fun : )
To be honest, we are praying it's cancelled. My wife went last year and I have to go this year, can't stand the drive, especially Sunday coming home.
Yeah, the drive sucks, 7-8 hours for us, but what can we do, pray for rain? P.S. Please don’t.
Some of you may not be cut out for this.Theres no place on earth I'd rather be this weekend because nothing makes my daughter happier than playing soccer.
Thank you Mr. Soccer-pants.8:48, your daughter will not be so happy when she, and her team, lose to my kids team! So expect some “Daddy, I thought you said we were going to win?” on the drive home.
8:48Where did that come from?!?First, my daughter is mature enough to realize that success this weekend doesn't nessessarily mean going 4-0 and taking home a trophy. If your kids team can beat mine, good for them, they must be one heck of a squad and we will enjoy the competition. Second, anyone who is telling their kid they are going to win (I assume you are D1) is setting them up for disappointment. I told mine they will have 3-4 great, hard fought games against the best teams in the region. All are sklled and the winner will come down to who plays with the most heart 100% of every game. And as long as she plays her heart out, which she always does, we will have a great drive home together. Mr. Soccer-pants
I know you are into it 9:08, just jerking-your-chain.WTF, why not have some fun on this board, its always so serious, and self-important. I tell me kid the same stuff, play hard and play fair, and let the chips land where they may. TBH: I just want her to feel like she played well, and not worry about her weaker teammates, which she does occasionally, its not out of malice, its leadership in my opinion. P.S. Glad you wear the soccer-pants in your family ; )
Most often doesnt come down to playing with heartI think teams are pretty even in the WANT TO department
9:34, could not disagree more.Most of the teams in the top 3 flights in the tournament are all equally-skilled. They all train with intensity, and have learned their positions. The outcome of most of these pressure-packed games is based on who gives 100%, and who gives 99%.That, and luck.
9:39 I disagreeYou can give 100% all you want - sometimes that doesn't come close.No teams are equally skilled once we leave the top 1% of teamThey might all be athletic some bigger than others but it will come down to one of the below:Who chases the ball and leaves their spot open on? Who kills an attack because their pass doesn't have the proper weight? Who doesn't pass the ball to the open player because they have their head down and is not seeing the field. Who dribbles the ball half the field only to lose possession.I hate saying it but a team will win because of a mistake a player makes on the other team. These are u13 girls playing soccer, the pros make mistakes and so will these kids. The winners won't care, but you can only have one winner in every flight. So just enjoy and remember it's only a game.
10:05But that's just it, we are only talking about the top 1% of teams, at least in D1. I belive all these teams have tied each other some on multiple occasions this fall. All are equally skilled. And giving 100% means mentally as well as physically btw.
10:12 your assumption is that the teams in F1 are in the top 1%. They might be the best teams in this tournament but that doesn't put them in the top 1%. All these teams are good.
Regarding tryout registration through Got Soccer, anyone know if your current team/coach will see that you registered for tryouts at different club? It would show up on the players page as an upcoming event but does your current team see that?
wins only:a) one team clearly superior, knocks in a goal or 3 and wins- 35% of timeb) teams are equal and a mistake by the defense or a supreme offensive effort for the winner proves decisive- 55%c) team that wins was outplayed but opponent could not score and winner was off one quick counter, a restart or a sloppy misplay by the loser- 10%
10:21Are you kidding me? 7 of those 8 are ranked in the top 1% of the country and don't even try to argue PF isn't also on that level. Who else in Reg 1 is better? PDA and NEFC fell flat this weekend against inferior competition. EM, MF Pre-E?, maybe but have they beaten any of those teams to prove they are better?
10:53Nice made up statistics. I've seen hundreds of games from rec to premier to college to pro and I can probably count on ine hand the number of times I watched a team that played with more heart lose.
Who beat NEFC?
10:58 I will take you up on this challenge? What are you using to say 7 0 of the 8 teams are ranked in top 1%?is it apples to apples across all 50 states? Are you using GS? I hope not.For GS to be valid - every league needs to use GS,every tournament needs to use GS. AND we know that is not fact.Example.NYCSL NPL gives points for Fall and Spring even though it's a straight through league. So teams playing in this league bring higher points to any tournament they play in. On the flip side PAGS doesn't give GS points at all.Using your argument PAGS D1 would be a 9k flight. That would increase their ranking and decrease NYCSL NPL team rankings. Those are the two extremes - then we have NPL pre-ECNL flight also a straight through league giving points just once instead of twice one for fall and the other for spring That's 10k awarded to teams twice. This would also shift the balance of the top 1%. I'm not even talking about tournaments like the Pre-ECNL SC event - a 10k topflight that will go unnoticed. But yet you are going to quote GS and say 7 of the 8 teams are in the top 1%. I truly hope you don't believe that.
Match Fit beat Cincy Cup Gold....., 10:58
STORM vs top 8 in NJ, last 12 months.....2-0 vs Ajax1-1 vs NJXany others?
1 tie each with STA and MF ECNL.
Storm Lost 2-3 to Calvert Crew in November
0-2 vs wildcats last May
These 3 teams can not be considered top 1% They have played in top flights and their pts per game avg is under 1.50Are you going to tell me that a winning % under .500 is top 1%?Please stop. Good teams for sure - I couldn't tell you if they were top 1% and you for sure can't unless you have seen every team play in all 50 states to make such a claim.Top flights of major events or pre-ECNL leaguePF 1.38 Pts per game or .500 winning%Crew 1.14 Pts per game or .429 winning%NJ Wildcats 1.00 pts per game or .444 winning%Are you SAYING these teams are top 1%???
Is it true FCV has been practicing outside since early Feb? Haven't they had much snow on the ground down there?
storm vs. ajax.... you're really using that match-up? that's hysterical. would the PDA brass really put their 'A' team in danger of losing to it's 'B' team? losing to ajax wouldn't bee good for recruiting. I'm not saying the games are fixed... but I'm sure there are measures taken to ensure the "right" result.
11:09They entered the b level GPS tournament and failed to make the finals. On that level, yes, better, no.
On the flip side PL and FCV both have a pts per game avg over 2 and a winning % of .750 in top flights of major events.You still saying I have a thing for PL?Am I still looking to knock them or am I trying to be fair?As far as PDA - Isn't Storm A - Dragons B, Ajax C and Shore D?At u13 Storm is Pre-ECNL aka ADragons beat Ajax head 2 head and also finished higher in the standings of the same league, wouldn't that make Dragons B team? But I guess if you go by Jefferson Cup flights Ajax is B team and Dragons are C team. let's see what happens in NJ Cup and in Spring NPL both teams are in the same events. that's how an outsider sees things.
Top 1% of country is 56 teams. Assume half are reg 1 &2 that's 28. Pls name 28 teams, no order needed that are better. BTW, I would put MF on this level,but no team is truly "better".
Every team in top flight at jeff cup is in top 1%.They are all competitive at the highest level and have a chance to win vs ANY U13 team on any given day.They rarely lose games even to other top teams. Nobdy wins most of their games vs teams at this elite level.that is the whole point they are all very competitive and there are many ties between all of them when they play each other.the way you determine teams that are Not in that top level or 1% is that when the teams that do not belong play vs teams at that elite level they get blown out by 3-5 goals or go home 0 and 3.
No, 11:38Storm is AThe rest are "not the A"Why did one poster say CALVERT whe the list was of New Jersey opponents? I dont knowThe Wildcats games - yep, there is thatPoint is best team in NJ doesnt have to prove it often. And has a 30% or so New Jersey win rate....
PDA Storm also lost to Cup Gold, who Match Fit defeated.Wildcats and Match Fit have claims to best in NJI am fine with just listing a top 3 and having no order. STA knocks on the door, of course.
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Storm also 2-0 win vs NJCSA Galaxy (when they were Imperials)
Below are some of the states of region 3 & 4.WA and OR arenot big GS users either is the Southeast. I think we need to stop thinking our crap doesn't stink and open our eyes.Region 4 hasCA, WA & ORRegion 3 hasFL, GA, NC & TXWhen it comes to supporting SoccerNJ, NY, PA, DC & NE are at the bottomhaving said that.750 PL.750 FCVthese 2 belong in the top flight.500 PF.444 NJ wildcats.429 CalvertThese 3 teams should be replaced and looking at results no spin - I can see F2 or F3 teams getting a look in the future over these teams.
At this age Reg 1 teams consistantly beat the best FL,GA,and NC has to offer. TX is of coarse a different story but no match ups yet to compare. With the exception of 2-3 teams Reg 2 doesn't compare either. CA is likewise in a league of there own but OR and WA? Might want to consider AZ as well. And just because I'm looking at GS, don't think I'n so short sighted as to just see the point totals. You can get a pretty good idea of a team by looking over the record - MF vs STA for instance.
11:57That was a forfeitTeam already folded
12:14 just keep dreaming and rationalizing.That is the only way you will ever see F1 again with your team.They are NEVER going to put ECNL clubs B Teams in the top flights of these elite tournaments.Even your own clubs don't want that.
11:57.. That 2-0 win was a forfeit. The game was never played
12:14 is obviously a team from F2 or F3 at Jeff Cup and have to make a caseYour logic is just that, your own logic.
How do they expect to be moved up to F1 when they can't win the B and C flights?
12:14 -It's old NJX Celtic all along.they have grinded that axe down till it's dull.
Wow. dude - slow your roll with Penn Legacy. They are still in 11 v 11 diapers.
You guys had better lobby for more forum space early. At this rate we will be at 5000 before the weekend
12:38 Like I said - you can spin or try to deflect however you like it still doesn't change the fact that a team with a winning % under .500 has their days numbered as F1. PDA Ajax, NJ Crush and NYSC just got knocked out of the top flight. NJX hasn't seen a top flight at a major this season.These winning% are fact at major tournaments ONLY (Spirit, FC Stars, Bethesda, WAGS). A sub .500 is not elite, but you can spin it that way.I believe Calvert was given the nod as they were the elite champions last year. The right decision they had to promote them. Without that no way they are F1..444 NJ wildcats.333 PF.333 CalvertTeams no longer in F1 of major events.500 PDA Ajax.250 NYSC.167 NJ Crush
This is the last 3 months for the old NJX. Enjoy it people. It was good while it lasted
ajax had their chance at top flight last year and were non-competitive at 0-3 outscored 10-1 at jeff cup in f1.I don't think they are lobbying to be F1 again anytime soon.
Have decisions been made?
1:36That is what he said
1:25 you haven't said who you think is more deserving for F1 in future than PF, Wildcats and Calvert.who are you promoting from F2 or F3 that is more deserving of F1 status?Who has a better resume in recent F1 or vs top teams overall than those 3 who are currently being placed in lower flights?
NJX was over the day they signed up for Matchfit. Why are we still talking about them. 2 different philosophies. NJX cared about their teams. Matchfit only cares about the individual players.
1:39Wouldnt that depend on this spring's results and also next fall?
NJX is what happens when the team leader and the club leader know that they are not capable and they look for the life raft in the form of MF. MF is what happens when they read the above and know that they have the team and club by the shorties and can walk in and take over the team, the money and the decision making.
1:39 I haven't looked into it that much, will look at it later. For Starters:PA Classics regular season PAGS Champs lost a PLAYOFF andas such were runners up (I hate Playoffs). STA NYCSL NPL number 2 team because of a forfeit plus some really good results vs pre-ecnl teams WC, FSA & PDA.I will look at it later for the teams to see if anyone else should get a shot in my opinion.
Don't really see any F2 or F3 teams that have better or even comparable overall resumes at this point than those 3 vs F1 teams so how does your argument make sense.Maybe close to a .500 winning percentage vs the best of the best is above the level needed to be in the top 8 or top 12 at these events.Logically only half the teams at most who are playing in top flights can be over .500 winning percentage so that only leaves a very few teams who would qualify under your calculations. Your data is therefore incomplete without showing those percentages and gf and ga as well as ties vs the teams in F1 regularly for those who you consider on the bubble as well as the 3 mentioned. After all your formula would show winning percentage as the same for a team with 1 w 1 loss and 4 ties as for a team with 1 w and 0 ties 5 losses. giving the same credit for a loss as for a tie is illogical.A tie is a credible result vs F1 teams much more so than a loss.Certainly the flight coordinators are giving more weight to a tie than a loss in their deliberations.Your date is therefore flawed and incomplete for flighting purposes.
You are correct.What 1:25 is doing is called spinning.Massaging the numbers until you find a way to present them in a manner that will provide the illusion of the results you want.
STA vs Top Teams above .500,Still not sure how this team isbelow Ajax, NJ Crush and NYSC.1-2 vs East Meadow ECNL1-0 vs FSA ECNL0-0 vs PDA Storm3-2 vs WC ECNL
There is only 1 formula for winning %and .444 & .333 is under .500 that means the team does not win half their games. Call it spinning if you like if it makes you feel better. But there is only 1 formula for winning % and it has nothing do do with anything else. it's black and white either you won or you didn't is that spinning?
Is 4-1-4 a good mark vs top teams?That's .444
1:55"For Starters:PA Classics regular season PAGS Champs lost a PLAYOFF andas such were runners up (I hate Playoffs)."You are funny. Who has PA Classics even played let alone beat? PAGS? Come on , that is a terrible league.
1:55There is no such thing as a "PAGS regular season champion" at u-13. Only on PAC's website will you find such a made up title. The league is staggered so not all teams play each other in the regular season. PAC avoided games with PL & YMS, neither of whom they would likely have beaten. And truthfully, if not for the phenomenal play if their goalie, and 1 bad call by the ref, the championship game could have been 6-0. Add to that they are losing perhaps the best coach in the club for next year and I just don't see them as a D 1 team going forward.
207 you should consider working for the Federal Government. They can use data spinners like yourself.
Classics beat Cleveland FCTies with STA, Crush and BRYCSolid wins vs PA East clubs
Last time Ajax played Wildcats they won 3-1. STA has lost last 3 games against Wildcats2-02-03-1That's why Ajax is ahead of STA.Quality team just not a F1 team
2:12 .444 is under .500 not sure what else you want me to say. it is what it is a sub .500 winning % - are you telling me this is F1 worthy?2:14 I agree about PAGS, but does that mean their door stays closed and we continue giving teams like PF and Calvert with their .333 winning % a run in F1 when is enough enough and give a new team a shot? 2:19 so why would PAGS make a 12 team D1 if doesn't have a balanced schedule. Why not just do 10 and everyone plays 9 games. That's a little bit of amateur league it sounds like. Regardless - Playoffs are nothing more than a second chance after you failed the first time around (I hate playoffs).
depends on who u play, pal
2:29 the 2-0 results are 2 games or is it one game that counts as twice that's such a NJ thing. NJ Wildcats are .444 vs top teamsSTA is.625 vs top teamsSo instead of giving STA who has an above .500 record vs top teams a chance we continue running a sub .500 team vs top teams? go GERMANY 3-1 taking apart Marta and Brasil
STA is a bit new to the elite tourney partyLets see how they do this week.
2:48 just having some fun - I just put out F1 results of major tournaments and said 3 of the local teams are sub .500 and should not be F1. I have been accused of spinning winning % of top flights of majors to make these teams look bad. .444 & .333 is the same any way you try and list it. You played X amount of games and won Y amount of them. Simple math.Is STA new to elite party? I don't know they look like GS point chasers.Get Spring/fall points for NYCSL & EDP plus 10 tournaments. Is that elite? or did they just accumulate a bunch of points because they had more opportunities than everyone else. But when you see that they beat FSA and WC ECNL teams plus tie PDA ECNL only to lose by 1 to EM ECNL team. How do you not give them a shot - F3, really because PDA Ajax beat NJ Wildcats who beat them. If we were going to play that game why aren't Dragons in F2 and Ajax in F3? Didn't Dragons beat Ajax straight up? Didn't Dragons finish ahead of them in the standings? Dragons are not F1 ready they have played no one but F2 why not they beat Ajax this year? YMS beat PL 3-1 and lost 3-5 to PL outside of that haven't played anyone really but why not F2 chance? They showed they can hang with a F1 team scoring 6 goals against them.How do teams move up if you don't allow them by running the same sub.500 teams?I will drop this and give you the last word.
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2:45. 2 different games on two different days
I think you are talking to yourself 3:15
12:14..wish we could all move to fair weather states to train outside all year round!! Sounds like the ticket to me.
3:30 Yeah looks that way. I may have got everyone to dizzy with all my spinning
All of the NE teams would get smoked by California and Texan teams.
Have you seen any of the Texas or California teams play in the age group? I doubt it! How many National Championships have PDA won? I am not a PDA fan or parent but you have to understand that in the next few years, when all the top players find a true home, we as NJ, will be stacked. It's either going to be at PDA or MFA. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK. That team will compete with TX or CA.
But I do think you should review the current national ranks for the U16, U17 and U18 groupsYou may have been misled.
1:25 and 2:07 Let me see if I can break it down another way that you can understand.According to your winning percentage formulaA team that goes to jeff cup and plays in top flight and ties all 3 games gets a .0 winning percentage in your formula.also at jeff cup this weekend another team in the same top flight loses all 3 games and also gets the same .0 winning percentage.According to you the team with 3 ties should receive no more consideration from the flight coordinators for next years top flighting then the team that lost all 3 games.In ANY tournament or League that plays soccer ties ALWAYS count for positive points, while in ANY tournament or league losses ALWAYS get you 0 points.If your formula makes no differentiation between losses and ties than it is FLAWED as a measure of results. Do you really think that like yourself the flight coordinators will only look at number of wins ?there are normally more ties than w's or ls when top teams square off at these events.
5:42Which rankings do you go by?
5:48 Yes, of course they look at the entire body or work.also remember that a loss couled be by more than 1 goal and a sign of being non-competitive in F!, as was the case with NJ Crush or Ajx last spring at jeff cup.A tie on the other hand shows a team played very competitively vs another F1 Team. How can 3 or 4-0 shutout losses count same as ties?
Good point 6:31. But I'm sure you have also seen ties that have been absolutely dominated by one team. A game where one team is keeping possession and firing away, but either the keeper is standing on her head making saves, or there is so many in the box that outside the eighteen possession is all that's there. If a coach knows he doesn't have the horse's to play full field, packing the box and hoping for a set play score is their best option. And I think we all have seen this many times.
STA will only implode just as their U14 team.
A tie is better than a loss no matter how you slice it.and a tie gets you a point while a loss gets you 0 points.therefore any formula that doesn't give a tie more credit than a loss is clearly flawed.Most of the ties I saw in the F1 games were the result of competitive games, not from 1 team playing everyone back and never mounting any attack of their own.Plus as many of the ties have been 1-1 as have been 0-0, so your example does not hold water across the board.
9:11i have seen this with wins and loses as well.So your point has no merit.
First it's not my formula - it's the formula every body uses.A Loss = 0.0A Tie = 0.5A Win = 1.01W, 1T, 1L = .5000W, 3T, 0L = .500What's your complaint?1W, 6T, 2L = .444 it's a losing record. No spin - not my formula - just a fact.
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Is someone really argueing STA over NJ Wildcats for a spot in D1? Against the rest of the D1 field NJW is 1-5-1 with a GD of 0 and the only loss a one goal game against FCV, possibly the best team on the east coast. STA is 0-3 with a GD of -6(all games lost by 2 goals) 2 of which were to the wildcats. Come on!
Oops, that would be bad. Sorry I meant 1Win, 5 Ties, 1Loss for wildcats.
Teams are in top flight because they should be.Your team is not because they obviously shouldn't be.Here's the formula for that:F1 = 8 teams minus your team which equals too bad for you
No one said Wildcats. I just said NJ Wildcats, PF & Calvert are all F1 teams with a losing record playing F1 teams at major tournaments. Can't put that any way but one - these teams have a losing record - sub .500.I was asked to give a team that should get a shot. I said STA based on winning record vs PDA, EM, WC and FSA ECNL teams W2, T1, L1. What did I say that was a stretch?10:41 don't forget 2 goal loss to PDA Ajax. So you believe F1 should have teams with sub .500 records? instead of giving another a shot? That's cool. I think you know where Istand
11:02I didn't firget Ajax, the D1 field I was referring to was the one a Jeff Cup, my #s are accurate, thanks.
11:01 I will be at home next weekend.But that still doesn't change the fact that NJ Wildcats, PF and Calvert are all sub .500 teams vs F1 teams.But you can take another shot at me if you like if it makes you feel better.
STA will be lucky to win their group, please give it a rest. Also could you list the teams that are + .500 this fall against Other D1 teams?
You are right to be fair - I have listed every team that played in F1 at the below tournamentsWAGS Spirit BethesdaDisney CASL DiscoveryFC StarsI think this is all the majors. This Spring we will have Jefferson, PDA & Delco. Let me know If missed any majors and why you think it should be included fora little more fun. 1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.833 DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 MICHIGAN WOLVES-HAWKS 02 (MI)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.643 CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL)0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.500 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)0.500 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)0.500 GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA)0.500 LTSC STRIKERS (MD)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)0.333 MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL)0.333 ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS)0.333 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC)0.333 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.333 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.250 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)0.167 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL)0.000 BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
Just teams from NY,MA,NJ, PA, MD & VA1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)0.500 LTSC STRIKERS (MD)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.333 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.250 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)0.167 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
iduals that are in fear of their playing time. Except for a few that have been playing the entire games because parents threaten to leave every time Suzie is taken out. Wellll done Coach.
Looking at Jeff cup F1 by winning%.Group A looks wide open while Group B should come down to FCV and PL. A few more days to go good luck all.Group A 0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) 0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)Group B0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)
PDA Tournamnet possible F11.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.889 CREW JUNIORS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)2 of these 30.667 FC STARS OF MASS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)This is a sick F1 if it happens this way.FC Delco possible F1 0.889 CREW JUNIORS GOLD WEST (OS)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)
7:25, that is a pretty funny statement, sorry. We all suffer with the specter of playing-time for our child, but threatening to leave the team is extremely petty, and self-centered. If a family on our club did that, they would be shown the door. Plenty of families in our area would jump at the chance to play for our club. Not important what team you are with, it happens to many teams. Good luck to you.
Dear stats man,Is your daughters team playing at Jeff Cup this weekend?
Where is PDA Storm in those lists????Plus, I think you stated you will not be at Jeff Cup this weekend. Hmmmmm, could this be a disgruntled PDA storm cronie.We will never know, but sure looks that way.
Unless all teams have played the same opponents and the same number of games under the same conditions then your stats are useless and basically comparing apples to oranges.Sorry dude, just not buying it.
What you're asking the guy for is impossible, same conditions? Come on!
field conditions for grass fields will be sloppy this weekend at Jeff Cup. Teams from the Northeast at a big disadvantage as they haven't been able to get outside and play large sided all winter. Good Luck
7:44 - No8:14 - Storm didn't play in any of those major tournaments on the east coast - I can't just throw them in for shits and giggles. So now I'm with Storm because I'm talking about tournaments they didn't play in? Hint - you are the one that brought up Storm - not me.8:28 - Don't be a tool - there can only be one tool on the blog and I hold that title. I've been saying that all along. But since there are posters that like to throw around being in F1 of major tournaments is end game. I played along and posted all the F1 teams and their winning % from only the major tournaments. You can never compare apples to apples because we have 50 states with thousands of teams so who's trying to spin? Not I my list is simple Major tournaments and F1 only.Sure I would look for ways to say the data is flawed if I was under .500. I wanted to include EDP Cup and NEWSS
Here since you think I'm with PDA I'll give you some more data to feed your fire.Some posters said NJ teams can't win in F1 of majors, are they right? it looks that way.0.500 PDA AJAX (NJ)0.500 MF PRE ECNL (NJ)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ) 0.333 NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)How about PA?0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.667 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.250 UKRAINIAN BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)or NYE1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)or VA0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)or MD0.500 LTSC STRIKERS (MD)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.167 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)or MA- hands down the best.0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)
Incorrect formula above0 wins, 3 ties and 0 looses is not .500It is .333That is 3 points from 9, using the proper vernacular.Or 1.00 points per game, using the formula that pre ECNL NPL currently uses.
"Hmmmmm, could this be a disgruntled PDA storm cronie."I'm sorry this is to funny to let go. I post stats of major tournaments on the east coast - Include every team that played in these tournaments calculated their winning% at these events only with NO MENTION of PDA STORM or ECNL- putting just the tournaments and all those great teams in the spotlight to compare them. AND I'M DISGRUNTLED?? I didn't give any opinions.Just gave everyone the major Tournaments and their F1 results I can't make those up, but yet I'm DISGRUNTLED? No I'm not - a tool yes- disgruntled no.
9:28, how does my daughters team get into this stupid conversation? We don’t bother anybody, we don’t complain about being portrayed as subpar, all we want is for our children to enjoy their young lives, and be part of a club and team that trains hard, plays fair, and strives to improve themselves both as players, and young people.
No the formula is correct(wins + ties*.5)/GP is how every major sport calculates winning% MLB, MLS, NFL, NBA & NHL.So if a team never won a game and never lost a games in 3 games played how are they anything but .500?
9:44 did your kid's team play in F1? that's how - no one called them sub par but you. They are what they are when looking at F1 results of majors.
But, but, but we had injuries, and a new coach, and my daughter did not play, and the other teams cheated, and the turf was too rough, and the ref was against us, (they are always against us) and, and, and...
Why didn't you mention1 -Tri-state = .3332 -BRYC -.444they are also top flight at jeff cup and all below .500 same as wildcats, penn fusion and calvert using your formula.so should we just give the jeff cup medals to FCV and not bother ton play the games as there would be no one left to play in top flight if you were the flight coordinator(Yikes).
These stats really expose some teams - I think that is where most of the pushback is coming from. We know these teams make most of the posts - especially before the big ones happen. But it's really all about the experience. Sure it is.
Here's a thought. Put away your little calculator and lets just let the weekend happen.players move teams, teams fold and join others. You can post stats all day, put its skewed no matter how you try to explain it.All of it was yesterday's news. Lets look ahead to the spring season.Good luck to your daughters where ever they play.
Good post 10:26, and to you too!
Compare your win% against gotsoccer's win%'s. Why are you not holding the teams responsible for all of their games? Chelsea still has to beat QPR. PDA loses and ties in fall EDP Cup so you don't use that as an F1 event but you use Discovery? I'd argue 2nd even 3rd divisions in some of your tournaments are stronger then 1st in others you have listed.
Indeed 10:26If you look back on this board 9 months ago STA was being BURIED. Just one example.
9:48This is soccer. We have tablesAnd no win percentages (this is a gotsoccer-dreamed production)
and...Gotsoccer uses wins/games played
Weather for Virginia not good at all. Today chance of showers, tomorrow is a washout. Thursday partly cloudy skies then Friday temperature dips & another washout. Saturday lingering showers but bit warmers. Getting quality playing surface on real grass is going to be a huge challenge.
Crush poster is upset that they have been exposed and at the bottom of them all. they need to recruit and this doesn't help the cause. U14 team are all scrambling to get on ecnl teams - jump while you can. WCFC is a great option for you - u14 team is trying hard to go there now.
10:12 I gave my opinion below:Anonymous said...Looking at Jeff cup F1 by winning%.Group A looks wide open while Group B should come down to FCV and PL. A few more days to go good luck all.Group A 0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS) 0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)Group B0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.333 TRI-STATE FA ELITE 01 (OS)####################10:26 But today is Tuesday and if we weren't talking about this we would be talking about?PS. I am looking ahead to Spring - what makes you think I'm not - because i posted some stats we haven't talked about and some teams look bad? That makes me a bad guy and a trouble maker? #####################10:37 But If I do that i would be adding 8v8 results - got killed when i did that. I wanted to include Fall EDP Cup and NEWSS but is FSA NPL a F1 team I decided not to? Sorry I thought Discovery was a Major. Do you want me to remove Discovery? I'm okay with that.
nobody cares what you do
Okay I don'tt hink anyone will argue that these are the MAJOR EastCoast tournaments WAGS Spirit BethesdaDisney CASL FC StarsTook only F1 from these tournaments:1.000 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE)0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.833 DALLAS TEXANS 02 DALLAS (TXN)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 MICHIGAN WOLVES-HAWKS 02 (MI)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.667 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)0.667 CREEKS 01/02 KRUSH ELITE (FL)0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)0.500 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.500 TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN)0.500 LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)0.500 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD (OS)0.500 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL (NJ)0.500 GOL SA 02 PRE-ECNL (GA)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.333 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS)0.333 MIAMI SPRINGS SOCCER 01 BLUE (FL)0.333 ARSENAL FC SD SD 01/02 (CAS)0.333 SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 ELITE (SC)0.333 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL (MA)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.167 1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE)0.167 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)0.000 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)0.000 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)0.000 WESTON FC 01 PREMIER BLACK (FL)0.000 BOCA UNITED 01/02 NPL (FL)0.000 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
Okay so you don't like by team how about by state association?0.765 GA0.700 OS0.654 MA0.550 NYE0.538 VA0.405 NJ0.342 PAE0.341 MD
Dude, are you some kind of Hotshotz groupie? Every time you make a list you out them on top, whats up with that, is your daughter on that team, are you coach Dan??
To the poster who posted the winning percentages. Good job. My daughter plays on a team that is below 500. Never thought her team is the best but we are going in the right direction. She knows what it takes to play teams in the f1 and plays with more intensity. I personally don't see a huge difference between F1 and F2. All teams deserve credit for the high level of play. Good luck to all region 1 teams. I can't wait for this weekend. Let's go outside and enjoy all the games.
I have a question for the MF pre-ecnl team, is the girl who got the u15 National team call-up really the best player on your team, or was their more to that decision?
So is it Storm or HotShotz?They have the best winning%WAGS Spirit BethesdaDisney CASL FC StarsOkay I'll put a min games played of 5 to show teams playing in 2 or more only if it makes you feel better.0.889 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)0.833 TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)0.800 UNITED FA 02 PREMIER (GA)0.769 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)0.750 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (MA)0.667 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (MA)0.667 SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE (MA)0.571 CASL JUNIORS LADIES (NC)0.500 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)0.444 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)0.429 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)0.417 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)0.417 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD)0.417 JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)0.400 BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)0.389 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)0.333 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)0.250 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)0.167 WEST FLORIDA FLAMES EAST (FL)
What would really make me feel better is to know what team your daughter plays on, care to tell us?
I didn't post my comment to make you feel better. Now it seems you are just bored at work and are trolling.
11:34 I agree with you 100% - The talk has been that playing in F1 at majors is what counts. I don't argue that I wanted to run with it and to build on it.It show's who doesn't play at majors - if your not ECNL and think you are good you should be playing in majors.It shows all the teams that these events thought were really good by placing them in F1 to play really good teams. It's no slap to be in f1.It supports claims made that teams are elite or it exposes those claims as false.I personally, agree that the top two flights in these majors should be used,but then I would get called out for trying to include a team that doesn't belong.
11:39 Why does it matter?11:43 not trolling just adjusting the list to your complaints. Maybe that is trolling? or maybe you want to talk about what 11:35 want's to, go ahead I will stop.
All of the teams in the top 2 flights belong. You can argue in favor of many teams. The system isn't perfect but get used to it. This happens in all aspects of life. All they can do is play the best they can on that given day
11:49 if you read my post I never complain once. I even said you did a good job. Like I said before I don't think my daughters team is the best and would be happy to play any of the top teams in this or any tournament. Builds character and shows what they have to improve on
Opinions will likely change after this weekend. Look at Spirit D1, some of those teams will never see F1 again. Other than FCV who would be given one pass, any D1 team that goes 0-3 at Jeff can expect to be in D2 at the next Major. Whoever wins D2 will be D1 like NEFC will be. These committees are trying to place teams in divisions based on 6-12 month old results, and they get it right more often than not. We'll see who put the work in this winter and who didn't.
Hot Shotz groupiehehConveniently leaves out Delco CupGlosses over losses in their own event and at NEWSS (to ALBERTSON - hey, I wonder where that guy got the idea that ALB. was an up and comer?)See the field, folks.Excellent team, of course, by the way. And a "local" that HAS won an out of state event (STARS)
I agree with 12:01. I think that Jeff Cup picked the right 8 teams for top flight (with World Class having a case to be in it), but I also think that 5 or 6 of those teams (including my daughter's) might be out of the top flights of the next round of tournaments with a poor showing this weekend. I'm not sure what to expect given how little practice many of these teams have had due to the weather.
F1 Teams?ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE)ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE (NJ)At NEWSS they were -IF I included this _ would have to include many others and honestly I'm good but I don't have that much time on my hands.F1 Teams?ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)FSA FC U13 GIRLS NPL 01 (CT)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)AT EDP I would have to include these teams.Kill me on the board and call me a groupie.11;51 You just gave me an idea - I will run a separate list list of F2 teams at these events.PS. I am used to it - it is reality - that'swhy i'm on this board having some fun. Not once did I give my opinion about the order of the list, just posted stats.11:58 - I'm with you - I think more kid's should have an opportunity to play that level. I'm a soccer guy and love pro/rel - if you don't win you get relegated and give someone else a chance to get promoted.12:01 Agree12:06 Why would I include Delco and exclude 8v8 from Delco? I though 8v8 was so yesterday? Not all top teams played 11v11 at Delco. See my comments above about NEWSS I left it out for a reason not becasue I'm a groupie. But whatever floats your boat. PS. You ever hang on hempstead Turnpike, Francis lewis blvd or 231 when you were younger? How about Astoria Park or in Bensonhurst?
I didnt say include NewssI prefer your model disappears altogether
The GS page shows Bucci as the NJX-MF coach. Is he the coach or are they just using his likeness to foster the ruse?
MF did the same thing last year to keep them from bolting club. then he never coached a game.
He coached them this weekend. If you are not on the team, why do you care??
What do you get when njx merges with MF? No top flights in tournaments. More losses in the last year then the previous 3 years. Beat FSA 5-0 in the fall and squeak by 2-1 this weekend. Transformed a team to a bunch of individuals. Me me me
He doesn't coach even when he does show up. He's busg socializing instead of coaching
That's not socializing silly. That's coaching. Don't you know that.
717 - are you kidding? I will tell you this and I have never seen her play, she blows your daughter away. Go away you tool.
@7:17 let me guess , your daughter played with her at one point and she kept the ball and didn't pass to your D. And now you can't stand that she is so good. You always thought you daughter was just as good, but she didn't pass to her and she got all the glory. Time to move on and give the kid credit and tell yours to step up her game, these people who chose her know way more than you ever will.
6:16 I was there. No longer buying!
If you call texting coaching????
So what I haven't seen yet is the predicted order of finish for each bracket in the top two flights (or even three). Its kind of easy to pick FCV and BRYC in the final, but how will the brackets look on Sunday afternoon? I do not see anyone going 0-3, also think there could something similar to Spirit with teams tied at the end (but not a three way PK playoff)
I will pick All the games for you tomorrowRight after the priority tasks of organizing my soups and vacuuming the cat
Remember a couple days before Bethesda, most of this boards "brain trust" had Cinn a lock to win, mostly because they beat Storm 2-0 at Eclipse. Back then FCV wasnt really on the radar because they had just gone 1-1-2 at WAGS and didn't get out of their pool. My prediction is the best predictions are going to be wrong. That's why this game is great. Man is it Saturday yet?!?
MF NPL correct does not have a constant coach. This is correct. This team seems to be playing soccer. Only issue, it looks this way vs lower level teams. When playing more elite teams. This team struggles. Unsure how this team will do vs top teams.
The MF NPL team could do the same thing the top teams in the pre ecnl are doing. It's just a matter of being in the right program with the right coach who has the dedication to improve on what they have done. But it's ninsense to keep bringing this team up. Let them be. This is the last dance for them. Players will be moving on after this spring.
F1 A Bracket B Bracket1. BRYC 1. FC Virginia2. Penn Fusion 2. Wildcats3. Cincy 3. Penn Legacy4. Calvert 4. Tri StateChampionship- Virginia over BRYC*Calvert may go 0-3 in their bracket*Originally had picked Fusion, but loss of two very good players will affect them. *First game loss to Virginia will shake Legacy's confidence and carry over to Wildcat game.F2 A Bracket B Bracket1. World Class 1. Cleveland2. NJ Crush 2. PDA3. Maryland U 3. NY SC4. PWSI Courage 4. RichmondChampionship- Cleveland over WC*Maryland U might flip flop with Crush. *Cleveland will dominate their bracketSeth the Soothsayer
Seth can pick games but can't blog it correctly. Looked much better on paper. Virginia winsCleveland winsLegacy faltersPDA run over by ClevelandWildcats don't tie in every gameBRYC comes close (again)
Wide open in F1. Would love to see some upsets! All great teams!
Agreed. Anything can happen at this level of play. Keep in mind it will be raining Saturday. The more technically skilled team may suffer.
Can anyone provide a fair comparison MF Pre ECNL vs MF NPL, vs PDA Storm or PDA teams
I am going to predict that not 1 of those 16 teams ends up where Seth has them.
10:44i will try and only answer specific questions
10:56 I have not seen MF Pre ECNL. hear good things tho. Just never seen them play. Seen NJX play as NJX, not as MF NPL. Seen PDA teams play. Really looking for feedback. I know its personal opinion. Just curious
Mf Pre ECNL has chance to be best team in NJ if club doesn't screw it up. u14 year is a big year for this club to see if they get it right.main issue will be transition of coaching-which although addressed, nothing is ever guaranteed.They will have a nice pool of players to choose from but like any other club that will go through a transition year of putting the players together, you will first have a "Storm" before the calm of moving forward . There will be some upset parents but team will ultimately be in a better place. It is possible that the club could screw this up but there is reason to believe that team will come out the other side just fine.
FCV did get out of their pool at WAGS.Won bracket and lost to Atlanta Top Hat Gold 1-0 in final.
are we all this naive to think that most of the posts on here are not coming from coaches from PDA, match fit, Penn fusion, bucks, East Meadow, etc looking to get kids to come to their programs. No parent in their right mind would post anything that entices kids from any other club to come and try out for the team their child is on and potentially take their child's spot. We are not fools.
true. Seems like posts that prop up any club and how great they couldn't be are coming from within. Who else would have that kind of knowledge.
Sorry, meant "could be"...
indeed. No doubt posts are placed here to get the peons ready for cuts that are coming, changes that are coming, new kids that are already guaranteed spots that are coming. Etcetera.this blog is a joke. Most of the info blogged here is from those with incentives to improve their own position.
This is 11:18. Perhaps you have a question you would like me to answer about another ecnl club to give equal time.
11:48Actually we are both wrong. FCV went 1-0-2 in pool play and did in fact advance, but they lost in the semi finals to Tophat. I knew they weren't in the finals, forgot there were semis there, should have looked it up. Fact remains, just about every prediction on here had Cinn winning, and I wouldn't be supprised to see teams no one is expecting in the finals.
How many of the pre-ECNL teams have players playing up in age? I thought this wasn't allowed. Must be a damn good player to be playing up. I don't see too many players on the girls side playing up like I see with the boys.
Has JeffCup actually informed teams yet that some flights may be cancelled due to wet fields, or was that just educated speculation on here?
I think that the East Meadow Hotshotz will win the top flight at Jefferson Cup!
Speculation. Rain today in Richmond. Dry the next 2. Rain Saturday. Might try to get teams on turf. 8v8 games may be cancelled. Lower 11v11 flights may go as well.
NJXMF coach does not train the team. NJXMF coach still does not know the names of all of the players. NJXMF coach does coach with cell phone in use. All in the name of keeping the manager in the game and for "one more year".
Has MF announced who will coach the U14s? The information on the tryout link does not mention coach name.
@136 , yes they can play up and everyone knows that. Most so called players - playing up happen to have a late birthdate, August , September for their school year , but are in the same grade as everyone else and really the same age. Im sure there are a few that truly play up , when they are clearly a year plus younger than everyone else and in the lower grade. When they change the age brackets , some of the ones playing up could end up two years down from half the team they currently play on.
7:56. It appears that there are some 9-2002 playing with a lot of 9-2001's. Isn't that a year gap and truly playing up. ?
Meaning. Playing up goes by biological year and has nothing to do with grade. If your kid plays at an age group where other girls on the team can be a year or more older than her then she is playing up even if girl is in same grade. That girl is at a biological disadvantage against some of the older girls in the league. Worrying about grade originated with town teams and was once a concern during the recruiting years for showcasing. That is no longer the case.
What percentage of U13 are 8th graders? Maybe 20%?
I would say there or less. A lot of late birthdays 8 or 9 2001's stayed back to 7th grade. Also some 10-2001's and younger skipped a grade.
If a kid misses the cut off by a few weeks that is a cusp kid and not really playing up as in a kid significantly younger but too talented for their own age group.On my own kids team, the three best players are technically "playing up". They be not be appropriate players to play on age as they are very strong with playing with their grade. When they get the chance to play with the grade older team, that is when I consider them "playing up" even though that is technically two years up.
9:14"What percentage of U13 are 8th graders? Maybe 20%?"Yes I agree. On my D's team there is only 4 8th graders out of 18 kids. They are technically playing down because of their birth date. When these girls go to ODP they have to compete against mostly U14's. Our national teams, at least on womens side, are made up of girls mostly with 1st half of the year birth dates.
Up down. It does not matter. The truly talented will develop. Just play with s great coach. And a great bunch of kids for your age group
At what point is daddy coach should still be allowed to coach his daughter in a club?
11:13, Is that team successful? Does the coach, coach the team the same as a trainer would? Also, what level of play are you talking about? I do not see it being a problem IF the daddy coach knows the game and coaches the team the same way a trainer would
Not when he coaches. Perhaps he insist on playing his daughter than the rest.
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