All you USYS guys are pretty funny, okay we get it, enough already, since there are a total of 2-3 of you, relax with the updates, and unsolicited comments already.
4:14 You not feeling it goomba. I'm 3:59 from NY and I responded to 3:38.
Who won region 1 semifinals.
4 BRYC 01 Elite (VA) 1 NJCSA Elite (NJ) This makes 1 of the 2 spots available for the NL open and also makes me 1 for 1.
Too easy for a regional semifinal game.
6:53 I agree - NJCSA had the luck of the draw and showed their true colors when they played quality.Since my boy doesn't like my USYSA posts, I put together a list of clubs that might be the next wave of GDA clubs.NEXT UP for GDA on our side of the mapNWSL & ECNLWestern NY (NY)WPSL, BDA & NPLFC Westchester (NY) /New York Soccer Club (NY)Seacoast United (NH)WPSL & ECNLFC BucksFC StarsWPSL & NPLNJ Wildcats (NJ)Richmond Strikers (VA)Yankee Lady FC (CT)BDA & ECNL ClubsBethesda-Olney (Bethesda, Md.)Richmond United (Richmond, Va.)Continental FC DELCO (West Chester, Pa.)World Class FC (Orangeburg, N.Y.)Albertson SC (Great Neck, N.Y.)BDA & NPL ClubsLehigh Valley United (Whitehall, Pa.)Prince William Courage (Woodbridge, Va.)NJCSA (Aberdeen, N.J.)Oakwood Soccer Club (Glastonbury, Conn.)UWS & NPL ClubsNew Jersey Copa FCTSF Academy ValkyriesECNL Only ClubsConnecticut FCEast Meadow Soccer ClubFC VirginiaFSAMaryland United FCMatch Fit Academy Mclean Youth SoccerBDA Only ClubsPA Classics (Manheim, Pa.)Beachside SC (Norwalk, Conn.)Baltimore Armour (Ellicott City, Md.)Cedar Stars Academy (Carlstadt, N.J.)Met Oval (Queens, N.Y.)BW Gottschee Academy (Queens, N.Y.)Everton FC Westchester (Scarsdale, N.Y.)FC Boston Bolts (Waban, Mass.)
GDA as of today1. Boston Breakers (Watertown, Mass.)2. Sky Blue FC-PDA (Bernardsville, N.J.)3. Penn Fusion SA (Westtown, Pa.)4. Washington Spirit (Boyds, Md.)If Boys DA is the model, we could see another 16 clubs before the 1st season? U15/16, U17/18EAST CONFERENCE10 teams NORTHEAST DIVISION10 teams ATLANTIC DIVISION20 teamsU13/U147 teams NORTH ATLANTIC DIVISION9 teams METRO DIVISION9 teams NORTHEAST DIVISION25on par with ECNLECNL12 teams Northeast Conference12 teams Mid-Atlantic Conference24 teamsWould love to see ECNL adopt the boys ECNL model allowing the NPL champions play ECNL.You see I can talk USYSA, US Club and DA and call it like it is in addition to posting results, GS rankings and Youth Soccer rankings
South Shore won on PKs after 1-1 game
657. Thank you! NJCSA is an awesome team who played phenomenally. So proud of our team! So nice of others to see this. You did mean that comment as a compliment , yes? Because I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't unless you are just a complete ass or a sore loser
Congrats to manalapan. Good to see you guys make semis. From the guy called pda shill, MF coach, your coach, Wildcats coach.
9:27 do you really need a translation of the 6:57 comment?
BRYC beats South Shore 1-0 in Region 1 final.
Yeah I just watched the game on Youtube, and BRYC forward pushed the SSS girl before her shot, that is a foul. Female Ref. was awful, really really awful.
Where is the link to the game
5:54You have never beaten us
PL i assume? Or should I say former PL? Hope your kid can hang wherever she went because there's more to the game than knocking players to the ground.
Wow! A bunch of Jersey girls going out West to the U14 National Team Camp. Very impressive.Good for NJ soccer.
928 Yes impressive representation by NJ. Still do not understand US federation concept of select picking girls at such a young age that not even in HS yet. Many things can change in the next 4 years of growth. They should of regionalized it not like ODP or anything but at least keep the pool large enough to not chase away girls/boys with future talent that may jump into another sport like Lacrosse because of dreams are not there anymore.
Sounds like someone is angry their non-ECNL daughter wasn't selected.
No it doesn't. Sounds like someone being realistic. Not all the girls selected were from ECNL clubs.
323 agree and many girls are still growing, developing, and maturing so the percentages they will be overlooked is higher now since they narrow down the pool every time they call girls over for training. They are chasing the less then 1% to early.
The likelihood of the girls in the current u14 NTC still being in these national camps come u18 for example is slim. Too many changes will occur between now and when it actually matters but still some very cool bragging rights!
22% of the U14 GNT were non-ECNL. In that mix is a non-ECNL Jerseyite. Congrats to her!
Where do you find the list of girls going to National camp, I want to see if my daughter's name is on it.
8 46 has to be a MF parent.
It's more than bragging rights. These kids are already on the top schools radar by virtue of this appointment. They will have a decided advantage I. The recruitment game. If they stick to u16 next cycle they have a golden ticket.
9 out of 36 from NJ-NY-CT. Something is being done right in our area. http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/07/01/12/46/160701-u14gnt-heads-to-colorado-for-36-player-camp
If you are going to include CT include all Region12 PDA1 South Jersey Elite1 Matchfit Academy2 East Meadow SC1 Albertson SC1 Penn Fusion1 FC Virginia1 South Shore Select1 Connecticut FC
9:44 The MF basher troll is now bashing on the MF parents... You have a few missing chromosomes.Maybe that parent needed some information, you took it upon yourself to dismiss it and to trash a group of parents that have nothing to do with you.I am sure you must have a lot of issues.
Or I have never been a MF fan. Don't like the parents, coaches, club. My boy got burned by this club. It's all the same on boys program to girls programs. MONEY MONEY MONEY
If you goto the U15 YNT out of 24 there are 10 from East coast.1 NYSC1 RIchmond United3 Tophat1 TN SC1 PDA1 PF1 FC Stars1 BRYSCIf you jump to the U16 YNT out of 26 only 3 from East coast.1 MF1 WC1 FC StarsIf you look at the U17 YNT out of 26 only 4 from east coast1 PDA1 PF1 Richmond UnitedAt U18 YNT out of 20 only 4 East coast1 NEFC1 NYSC1 FC Rev1 PDAWhat does this show? Maybe the weather has something to do with development? Warmer climate means more touches. I know even in the winter most of our teams go inside and practice but the girls have a tougher time doing work on their own. They cant just walk to a local field and practice shots or dribbling.
Manalapan is now GotSoccer's top-ranked team, just ahead of the team that trounced them 4-1. Gotta love GotSoccer
8:47 - Interesting analysis. Weather could definitely be the issue. Maybe Region 1 club coaches have more pull with national coaches at the younger ages to get players placed? Maybe our kids start training earlier and are more advanced than other regions early-on, but other areas catch up to us as the kids go through puberty? Maybe this trend with U14's will carry through and we'll start to see more Region 1 kids each year?
The last time the U15s got together there were 3 PDA kids there. There is a U15 CONCACAF cup in August at Disney. Team has not been announced I don't think.
8:47 & 9:31 I'll give you the GS4 spin.Maybe girls are going to clubs that have the connections earlier for placement but these clubs aren't as good at development as they are at placement so their development is lacking and they fall off.orMaybe our kid's as a state/region just aren't as good.
A lot of the girls are not developed on an ECNL team but ended up there. It will be much like the DA, girls will have to play somewhere in the years before they get to the DA. They will have to develop the skills that allow them to make the DA somewhere.
I'd don't live out West so I'm making some assumptions here but I'd argue that the larger proportion of Northeast girls on the younger national teams iss less about poor development and more that it's easier for those girls around here to be seen at younger ages. Given the population density, top tournament density, and relative close proximity of national training centers, ODP camps, PDP/ID2, etc., younger players are more likely to travel to the places where the national team selectors will see them. In other regions, many parents of skilled younger players might have to travel much further to reach the training locations and so might be less willing to make the trek at the earlier ages. As the kids get older, top teams will travel to further locations (showcases, etc.) where their top players are more likely to be seen, and parents have a better feel for their kid's skill level so may be more likely to invest the time/money to travel to NTCs/ID2 etc type events.
8:47, thanks for the list, and Go NYSC!
2015-16 National League U14 Girls Final 4R1. (OH) CUP Gold 01/02R2. (NY) Greater Binghamton United FCB1. (TN) Tennessee SC 20B2. (MI) PSG MI Gators 02 Orange------------------------------------2015-16 Elite Clubs National League U14 Final 41. (CA) So Cal Blues SC ECNL U142. (OH) Ohio Premier ECNL U143. (CA) Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U144. (GA) Concorde Fire ECNL U14--------------------------------------Next Up NPL Finals - July 14-18, 2016 | Aurora, COFlight ANEFC EliteFC Virginia United Elite 01Davis Legacy 02Space City FC Flight BMassapequa SC Lil' RowdiesFC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPLLVU 01 GirlsBRSC 02 Girls Black Flight CPDA South 01 NPL Claremont Stars SC Stars 01Lonestars 02G Red SA EGA Maroon 01 02
The population from DC to Boston is about 10% more than the entire state of CA, and the demographic is similar. You should see roughly the same number of players from these areas on these teams. I don't think there is any legit reason for younger or older teams to have any geographic bias unless there is a real bias or in these cases, the sample size is too small. Over time, there should be no difference.
I have a slightly different rationale. I have lived on both coasts and i think the west coast in general focuses more on team skills than individual skills. At the same time in nj at least there are a lot of international trainers that are bringing the individual skill level higher than the west coast. I think the more athletic girls are probably so cal but the most skilled are from the ny/nj area.
They don't play field hockey and lacrosse in CA to the extent they do in the Northeast.. The reason may be that there are more and varied sports played in the Northeast, which tends to dilute the athletic talent pool in any given sport.
Here are the state breakdown for YNTU15 5 CA4 GA3 NC3 NJ3 TX2 HI2 MI1 NY1 VA1 TN1 ILU16 4 CA3 WA2 CO2 NJ2 OR1 FL1 GA1 HI1 IN1 MA1 MD1 MI1 NC1 NM1 OK1 TXu17 8 CA3 CO2 MI1 KS1 IN1 MD1 WA1 FL1 GA1 NC1 NJ1 TXu18 7 CA2 WA2 MI1 TX1 OH1 NY1 OK1 MA1 NV1 CO1 PA1 NJ
I do think the FH and Lacrosse make a big difference.U15 and U16 both have girls from HI. What are the odds they stay on the team? What kind of competition do they get year round in HI?
944,not a MF parent,although sometimes I wish I was.Thanks to who ever posted the link.
Womens Soccer 375,681 High School Players 26,995 College Players7.2% Overall % HS to NCAA2.4% % HS to NCAA Division I1.9% % HS to NCAA Division II2.9% % HS to NCAA Division IIIand you guys are talking about92 Players listed in 2:02's post0.02% High School players to NT campsI get the facination with it, as we all think our kids are stars.But really - great for these kids - don't add pressure to the pressure they already have.Acknowledge and move on, let them enjoy as they try to maintain that level of play Since the NPL Finals are next upJuly 14-18, 2016 | Aurora, CONEFC, LVU and PDA South win their groupThe Wildcard is hard to call as 6 points will probably be what the team has but the goal differential is hard to call.IfI had to guess I will gowith my sleeper pick from NY Massapequa or LoneStars.I really don't see anyone standing in the way of NEFC defending their title before they move to ECNL next season.They beat PDA South at the PDA event 4-1 and also beat LVU at the same tournament 4-0. The altitude might play a role but that will play a part in everyones game no team can use that as an excuse.
Massapequa got lucky, they are no shot, they won’t win a game, their flights will get delayed, their hotel rooms will be given away, their cars will brake-down, they will get lost going to the fields, they will get drunk and fall down, they will use their LI accents to amuse the Colorado faithful, and finally, they will probably have a great time, good luck you bastards....
9:06 - that was funny! Noo Yawk ....
Supposedly next batch of GDA clubs being announced today. Predictions?
Yes, Go NYSC!
World ClassNobody else local
World Class sucks, terrible coaching, crooked CEO, no integrity, but otherwise great!
thanks MF DOCwhen you point the finger, remember 4 are pointing right back at you
12:16 if that was MF they would have bragged about being GDA.Where is my boy that thought this would be different than the ECNL?Boca United (Boca Raton, Fla.) FC Stars (Acton, Mass.) San Juan Soccer Club (Rancho Cordova, Calif.)Charlotte Soccer Academy (Matthews, N.C.) FC Virginia (Chantilly, Va.) Shattuck-St. Mary’s (Faribault, Minn.)Clay County Soccer Club (Fleming Island, Fla.) IMG Academy (Bradenton, Fla.) Sting Soccer Club (Addison, Texas)Dallas Texans (Plano, Texas) Jacksonville Armada Youth Academy (JFC) (Jacksonville, Fla.) TSC Hurricane (Tulsa, Okla.)LA Galaxy San Diego (San Diego, Calif.)Davis Legacy (Davis, Calif.) LA Premier FC (La Canada, Calif.) Virginia Development Academy (Woodbridge, Va.)Eagles SC (Camarillo, Calif.) Legends FC (Chino, Calif.) West Florida Flames (Brandon, Fla.)East Meadow SC (East Meadow, N.Y.) Lonestar Soccer Club (Austin, Texas) Weston FC (Weston, Fla.)Eastside FC (Preston, Wash.) Match Fit Academy (Morris Plains, N.J.) World Class FC (Orangeburg, N.Y.)Eclipse Select (Oak Brook, Ill.) Midwest United FC (Grand Rapids, Mich.) Washington Spirit-Maryland (Boyds, MD.)
Our region1 GDA as of today.53 clubs to date.1. Boston Breakers (Watertown, Mass.)2. FC Stars (Acton, Mass.)3. East Meadow SC (East Meadow, N.Y.) 4. World Class FC (Orangeburg, N.Y.)5. Sky Blue FC-PDA (Bernardsville, N.J.)6. Match Fit Academy (Morris Plains, N.J.)7. Penn Fusion SA (Westtown, Pa.)8. Washington Spirit (Boyds, Md.)9. Washington Spirit-Maryland (Boyds, MD.) 10. FC Virginia (Chantilly, Va.) 11. Virginia Development Academy (Woodbridge, Va.)
They also said -The 28 clubs will join the Girls’ Development Academy along with the initial group of 25 clubs that were announced on June 30 with more announcements taking place in the near future
Non-ECNL/NWSL/MLS GDA teams out of 531. Beach FC (Torrance, Calif.)2. Lamorinda (Moraga, Calif.)3. Davis Legacy (Davis, Calif.) 4. LA Premier FC (La Canada, Calif.) 5. Legends FC (Chino, Calif.) ----------------------------6. Clay County Soccer Club (Fleming Island, Fla.) 7. IMG Academy (Bradenton, Fla.)8. Weston FC (Weston, Fla.)-----------------------------9. Eastside FC (Preston, Wash.) 10. Cincinnati Development Academy (Cincinnati, Ohio)11. Shattuck-St. Mary’s (Faribault, Minn.)12. Midwest United FC (Grand Rapids, Mich.) 13. Charlotte Soccer Academy (Matthews, N.C.) 14. Virginia Development Academy (Woodbridge, Va.)
Surprising Match Fit.
Well done......Myabe they have a field leasing agreement in place
The 1st Washington Spirit DA was Washington Spirit VA. It will be run by a collection of 4 clubs: Arlington, BRYC, Loudoun Soccer, and SYA. Today's Washington Spirit DA will be based in Maryland.
MF was surprising because they said they didn't want to be part of the DA. Not surprising they would get one.
Maybe all the girls who left MF will now want to come back?
Previously PDA and Match Fit were the class on NJ before these announcements. Now they both have really separated themselves by a very wide margin.It's not even close.
You expect an argument?
And they aren't done yet. More coming folks.... Wiping out ECNL as we know it.
4:19 No, but feel free. People like to argue here.
MF gave up their boys DA. I don't know why they want girls DA.
4 06, no as long ecnl Director and doc is there, then there will be no training of any sort
5:36 My daughter's best training in her short lifetime has come from the DOC, and ECNL director from MF... after those two coaches the drop off is immense.You can hate all yo want, but those guys are as good as it gets.
5:11 girls soccer is a cash cow. ECNL tested the waters with the big rosters and found parents will pay. ECNL made nice with GDA no one wants to pass on all that money and now they have the USSF backing them cha ching.There will be some other other clubs asked to the party - as so many have said previously nothing will change we will just call it something else and i am curious what the tuition will be? 3,500 per player?GDA top of the pyramid for 02/01 girls in year one. I hope no bridges were burned. ECNL & USYSA NL = level 2NPL & USYSA ERL and other regional leagues = level 3EDP, CCL & NEP plus others = level 4
Let’s talk about pending HS season, ugh. Our varsity team is participating in a summer-type of league, its laid-back, but it is a pretty good barometer of what can be expected, ugh again. At first, I though I was over-thinking this, and seeing things that were not there, sadly they were real. The perfect vindication for this was my humble wife’s reaction to watching a game recently, bascially she wondering what sport they were playing, uber-ugh.
Sorry bro, but ECNL is above USYNL, again I am truly sorry, don't blame the messenger.
East meadow is now SUSA FC Academy.You are so right, I'm sure those players on those teams could do better than play in NC 45 mins from CASL, Disney & Jefferson for showcases and their own national championships plus other showcase events and league games. I agree 100%
5 40. As Cris Carter would say. Come on Man
Sorry, ISA is now SUSA not EM, come on man....
6:59 - not in the loop?http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team_prev.aspx?teamid=263223
So does that make SUSA FC Academy a GDASUSA, ISA and EM - should be a strong team no?
Come on.... Where are all the July 1 and July 2 posters saying there's no way MF gets a DA.... Hello? You there?
Just watched BRYC and SSSE play sorry but actually a little faster pace than the MF vs MI game was a little surprised to see that type of game after reading this board - yes some long balls but both teams tried to play and connect passes also. With both these teams in the NL I would say the quality is right there.I agree 7:48 where is all those that smack talked this team, I hope they didn't burn bridges. This just means they will get lots of interest come next season. PDA can only take what 12 per age group. let's see if there will be some additional comp from other clubs. I can see NJ having at least 4
7:48 I never thought MF would get it. well I was wrong. Who will be the first club to lose this status?
6:59- I'm not sure but I think only the hotshotz team from east meadow is now Susa- the whole east meadow club did not merge with Susa- the best as club merged with Susa. That hotshotz team has been together with that same coach forever and didn't want to separate by birth year
So you're telling me the Hotshotz parents gave up ECNL to join SUSA, so that they can stay together as a team, are you for real?
Sorry, I got autocorrected. I meant to say above that as far as I know only ISA And SUSA merged. Not east meadow.
10:23. I don't know for sure. But ECNL is not as highly respected on Long Island as it is in NJ. Also Many of these girls are already identified and don't need the "help" of the ECNL.
MFA has very close ties to the national teams. They were vocal about the ECNL, but that was emotion. Had heard some other rumors, but we'll see about those.
10:32 do not follow your post
Here is what I mean. Over the last 5-6 years for the size of the club they have put as many kids on national teams as anyone. They recently hired a national team staffer as a coach. The ECNL they are very passionate about and had said they were riding that horse. Something obviously changed their minds. Which is fine. Good luck to them. As far as rumors, there are always good ones in this business.
First 53 GDA Clubsthe Impact152 - A license coaches100 - B license coaches217 - Full Time Coaches580 - YNT/WNT players166 - Pro players--------------------------$4.69 million in scholarshipsor758 full scholarship playersor14 full scholarships per clubor 4 full scholarships per club per age group.---------------------------
Are the scholarships for the best players or for families in need of them?
That is the million dollar question and the credibility of the program weighs in the balance of the answer. Likely it is a grey area at best.
South Shore Select announced they are joining NENPL.
Best of both Worlds for SSSEUSYSA National League 7 games (NC & Disney)USYSA ERL 7 gamesNew England NPL 7 gamesThat's 21 league gameswith potential for NCS, Region1 Championships, USYSA National Championship games and NPL Final gamesPlus any warm up showcase events like Bethesda, Jefferson and PDA/Delco to name a few a very busy Nov- July.Say what you want 6:13 7/9 as the messenger but if i had a team in the area doing this vs one doing ECNL I would pick the SSSE model vs ECNL unless of course your kid makes the GDA team.
why did MF walk away from Boys DA but now has girls DA? Must have something to do with money
@748 "Anonymous said...Come on.... Where are all the July 1 and July 2 posters saying there's no way MF gets a DA.... Hello? You there?July 9, 2016 at 7:48 PM"right here absolutely shocked, and I put no credence in the GDA application process because believe me if MF got it, absolutely no one investigated the club before the supposed "award", NO ONEbecause even the DOC was looking for other jobs
3:32 The fired coach is back complaining about MF.WC got one too... why are you complaining?Unless they're already unhappy with you... That's my guess.
Yes Political power struggle in play not by club but at USSF GDA v ECNL league. Trying to make to force stronger ECNL clubs what direction to take as none of those clubs will say no once accepted. Smart move by GDA corner the ECNL market of strong clubs first to force the ECNL it's hand. Again you have PDA, MF, WC less than 1 hour from each other makes no sense of geographically.Question will be which will drop ECNL from their programs? Doubt they will they will go teams of GDA/ECNL/NPL - can only see PDA holding those 3 groups with branches down south and at the shore.
Sounds like too many games 12:40
It is clear, 3:32 - that DA was meant to be a volume leagueThey arent being as choosy as they could/were expected to be.Good for the clubs that were on the fence - or below it.
You don't join the NENPL, they are obviously supplying the Breakers B team this year. BTW, some clubs have already announced that this is the last year of the NENPL. Unclear if it's going away. If I count right, these clubs have not been admitted to the DA: Bucks, Continental, Albertson, FSA FC, Conn, FC Boston, WNY Flash.
MFA and PDA are in ECNL as long as it exists. DA is a small number of kids and many will not give up HS. ECNL still a strong league. I don't think they feel NENPL is viable.
3:44...at your next tournament or soccer event, introduce yourself to ANY 2002 World Class parent, that didn't follow the ex-MF coach, and get their thoughts. I've already ran into a few at tournaments this summer with my younger daughter. it's funny stuff. I wonder how much longer the head DOC at WC will let the girls DOC run their girls program into the ground. My guess is that he has one year left. I can't imagine the DA will allow these programs to continue operating with parent coaches and parent DOCs.
4:01... i agree, but i'm starting to doubt the "DA is for a small number of kids". Where are all of these new DA level kids coming from? So just talking about our area, PDA, MF, WC,EM were all granted DA's. They are all also ECNL clubs with arguably the best kids in their respective areas... yes, there are some girls out there not currently on an ECNL team that are worthy. but there aren't a ton and the older our girls get, the thinner and more concentrated the pool. so what i essentially see happening is a rebranding of the the ECNL teams to DA, and the NPL teams to ECNL. yes, i understand there are combined age groups - that will positivley impact the level of the team right below the DA.
DA will attract some kids that were either a firm NO or a MAYBE when it came to ECNLFigure the makeup of the teams to change just a bit, maybe by close to half the rosters (10-12 being new)Just a hunch
Teams on average will have 12 kids per birth year. ECNL teams roster 25. There are still good players at other clubs, so my guess is that in year 1, these DA teams are roughly 75% current ECNL kids, and the rest will come from other clubs and the rare NENPL kid that develops above the curve. So let's use for Example the PDA 2016/2017 2001s. Of those 25 kids, 8-10 will be in the DA. The other 15-17 stay on the ECNL team and that team adds 8-10 players.
4:14 I think that's the point of the DA - not small but large group of kids to avoid kids falling through the cracks.
US Soccer DA website:Anyone interested in playing for a Girls' Academy club will need to contact the club directly for specific information regarding the player selection process. The Girls' Development Academy firmly believes that the traditional open tryout is a highly flawed and ineffective model for player identification and evaluation. The expectation is that Academy clubs move to using a more systematic scouting model to identify and recruit new talents and invite these players to trial for an extended period with the current player pool.US Training Centers will have a huge impact here. Far more than the team they play for.
3 44 why are you tripping on ex MF coach. Get over it already that he did ask your little Suzie to play for his current team. I wasn't asked, not end of world. Happy to be at my current club
9:44 That's like being upset that NAMBLA didn't ask you to join. I am 100% positive no one is upset that suzie wasn't asked.
PA ParentReading posts from outsider point of view with no ties to Match Fit. My findings would point to a parent getting burned and attacking ex coach at every moment he or she can. Very obvious.
9:54 If you think it's one parent, you would be mistaken.
Thanks, 6:40You too, 4:57. I had forgotten 2 birth years will be playing together.So, do you guys think it will be harder to attend multiple DA tryouts than in the past (ECNL), given the info 6:40 provided?
Here is my view of what the DA will do to the ECNL. The top girls on ECNL teams will move to the DA. If a girl didn't come to ECNL then most likely they will not goto the DA and for go HS soccer. If the top girls go to the DA from most of the ECNL teams then the girls on the B team gets moved up. I dont care if it is only 8 girls, they were put on the B team for a reason. So, if there is a girls ECNL in 2018 it will be so watered down. There will be people willing to pay the huge price tag for ECNL. Which will now have the 2nd tier coaches because all the top coaches at a club will be coaching the DA teams. If the DA is free at clubs it is only because people are willing to pay $3000 a kid to be on the ECNL team. Most of these clubs, PDA, MF, WC , PF, all have 3 to 4 teams at this age group. So the money will role in to help make the DA free possibly at those clubs. Dont forgot ECNL knew all these was going to happen so they started a Boys ECNL league. Which I thought they were going to try and start up in 2017.
4:06 I am a WC parent, been there for years. Sorry majority of parent or parents do not show that same sentiment feeling that you expressed. I have 2 daughters in the program, This club shows high committment to its players and parents including the DOC.
7 22 Crush Parent here. As I wish my daughter (s) team (s) beat World Class. Many of our parents have respect for your club.This parent who posted this is a former Crush parent that left 2 clubs for the oldest child and is at MF. This individual loves to stir the pot.
I don't think PDA or Match Fit non ECNL players are paying $3,000 per year. From what I have read on this blog, most of the top non ECNL teams charge on average over $2,500 per player. I don't know why an argument continues about whether these teams "B" teams are money grabs for the club. They charge nothing different than other clubs. Find a different argument!
8:09 I'll play along with you on this - I'll take the other side based on what I read and my research.PDA/MF teams charge 2,500 for 3 events and league play with no state cupsOther Clubs charge 2,500 for 8 events and league play which includes both USYSA and USClub State cups.Does PDA/MF have rosters over 18? If they do they play less games and a portion of the roster plays even less?Are you saying this is the same? and this should be over looked?Oh - the teams that play in more events chase GS points so they are evil forget that they give their players more games to develop their skills.
PF now charges $3600 for league play and 3 to 5 events.
11:19 but you can't talk about this because it's an old argument?PF NPL17 NPL Games15 Showcase games (5 events)0 State Cup games32 games for $3,600 and 2 practices per week?What is the cost for 1776? Below is what they did this year (HS team). Showcase events 7 Region1 league games27 showcase games (9 events)3 State Cup games (NCS)37 games for $???? and 2 practices a week. If they charge $2,500 you save $1000 for 5 games more
7:08. As was pointed out, each DA team is going to have the equivalent of 4-5 Full scholarships. The DA cost is roughly 6K. Most money provided will be need based. The great majority of players in the DA will be paying more than they are now.
http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/ecnl/its-bullst-let-the-girls-play-real-colorado-coach-rips-ussfs-ecnl-scheduling-snub/I think this article really sums up a lot of what I'm feeling about USSOCCER right now.
PF NPL 26 league gameshttp://nplnortheastgirls.demosphere.com/teams/78887602/71130003-78887666/TEAM.html
Great article I wish more people at this level would speak out. Things are getting out of control. My daughter will be an easy pick for ga, but I'm not looking forward to it. If it's really 6k, that may help in decision. Plus if my daughter is better than others getting scholarships, that says it all.
12:10 - I know girls that will in the DA that are no where near need based. Most of the girls playing on ECNL teams in NE are not need based girls.
12:15 my bad i thought we were talking about 2016/2017. The days of playing in AUG-OCT are gone so I took the older PF team 17 league games plus 2 post season games if they qualify
12:12 you and that coach need to check yourself first.Country before CLUB!!!!!!!!!! Anytime.Everybody knew the 2016 FIFA Under-17 Women's World CupU-17 WNT September 30, 2016 - October 21, 2016was this year and the team needs to prepare as many times as they can.Could they have played another week in July? When exactly when their are so many national Championships going on? he doesn't care about that does he as long as it's not his ECNL right?That's whats bull these girls are picked to win a spot on the roster to play in a world cup I think that trumps your league title game pal any day of the week.The USSF should run the top of the pyramid league in the country and honestly I don't care what the ECNL and USYSA did prior to it who cares really. They still have their leagues and their brands.This is the USA and for our premier athletes that's what matters and that's their dream to where the red/white and blue in a world cup game not play in a ECNL league final.Ask any player if they would rather play in an ECNL game or train for a chance to play in a World Cup. I think we all know what they would pick.
Sorry for the grammar errors - maybe as a naturalized USA citizen it means more to me to play for your country than a league game.
My view on all this insanity has changed a lot over the past year. So much political crap I have seen occur it's nauseating. I paid just about $10K last year because I bought into the crap like so many. Yes it really is that much. The end game, wasn't worth anywhere near that kind of money. I now look at it this way, my kid is good, I know it and any coaches who see her play know it. She will be fine and good colleges will want her. All the money some of these clubs require is insane. No more. No thanks. Hoping the DA is not a money grabber like ECNL is because if so we'll pass on that too. I'll make sure she is seen and with my money in my pocket, not theirs.
U.S. Soccer covers many of the costs for clubs so they can reinvest these funds into their Girls' Academy Club and players. There are no referee fees for league games, showcases or playoffs. Clubs are not charged any event or showcase fees to attend. In addition, Clubs are provided with Nike Balls for training and games and receive Powerade coolers and beverages among other corporate partner benefits.
"Country before CLUB!!!!!!!!!! Anytime"Give me an f'ing break. With views like this regarding youth sports no wonder we have the crisis we have.
2:13 exactly - my comment is wrong with youth soccer.But exactly what was wrong with that comment? The parent's of those 2 kids should have passed on the WNT camp for the ECNL league title?or maybe you think the USSF should have checked with the ECNL before setting up their camp?My point was the ECNL knew this was a world cup year and should have checked with the USSF before setting their dates hence country before club comment The coaches rant was just that a rant but yet you agree with it right?
Didn't this happen years back when Athletes were jumping from HS straight to Professional sports, to me USSF has been headed the wrong direction worry about developing our youth to pre-teens vs. nit picking and choosing players for DA and youth NT's. Those other sports are now mandated to play college first before turning pro which is the right thing to do. Many boys/girls in HS should be steered to wanted to play college first after the development years then worry about representing the Red/White/Blue.Prime example even the youngest player on the WNT has chosen college vs. turning pro. Yes she is on the NT but that's the 1 special exception out of millions out there.
It's about letting the kids play. The odds of the these girls even starting on a U.S. Nat team are still very slim and they may never get a chance to play for a natl title, that's all he was saying. Let the kids play soccer, that's what they love to do, not go to practice camps. Even high school could be their best years ever, playing in front of their school, their friends and family. What the f is wrong with that? The U.S. Nat team will be just fine the way it is, it's not broken. You guys are over the top, My kid is one of the best in the state and has natl team potential, but I think it sucks. She can play any other sport just as well, that's what athletes can do and we probably will make the change.
My main issue with US Soccer is that they do not have our daughters best interests in mind. And I think that that article captured that. By allowing 53+ teams there will be at least 3180 girls part of the program. However, the DA is really only created for the elite 100-players in entire country. If the DA works out the way US Soccer wants, it will be become a primary recruiting ground for colleges and that will drive the players.However, for the thousands that are not part of the youth national teams, the DA is being force-fed to them. If that want to play top level college soccer... or even mid-level maybe, they will need to give up other high school activities and play DA. Players will live 2-hours from a DA site and feel that they MUST play on that team in order to amount to anything in soccer. US soccer just isn't looking at it through the players perspective at all.
So for all the complainers about too many DA in north jersey area i would say the entire metro ny area is way too low. 4 teams so far i believe with a population of roughly 20m. Socal has a similar population and has 8. I think nj could use 3 more 1-2 north 1 shore and still not dilute the talent. Long island could have at least 1 more as well. And Ct should have one too.
The talent will be diluted don't fool yourself. There will be more teams in the DA. Talent will be spread thin. A college coach has already told my daughter they are not sure what is going to happen or how they, college coaches, are going to interact with the DA's. He told my daughter they are worried. This is a coach from a P5 conference.
Does anyone know how many more rounds of clubs are being accepted by USSF? I'm estimating at least 75-90 clubs.
I agree talent will be spread instead of stock piled on a bench. Agreed.More elite players will play more minutes and be allowed to develop. Nothing wrong with having options.College coaches are super happy don't fool your self. Forget our kids they are to old to benefit. take U13 these girls will practice 2 more times a week with quality trainers and top notch talent. In 3 years they will be more advanced then our kids and be the development academy for our NT teams. Club soccer stops at U19 then the kids play College Soccer. Why do you think College soccer is going to a fall/spring schedule? Think big picture - everybody wins and most of the parents are still going to pay.4:02 I think over 1004:42 How is the GDA different than the ECNL? GDA trains 2 more times a week with A & B licensed coaches and no HS soccer and this scares college coaches? I think this scares ECNL parents as they will now be paying for their kid an the scholarships.Girls ECNL will adopt the boys model and rebrandThe ENPL will include both member clubs and member leagues (NPLs), providing club- and team-based entry into the competition. Member clubs will qualify teams into the ENPL in all five age groups each year, while member NPLs will qualify individual teams in all age groups based on performance in their respective NPLs the prior season.This will be their attempt squash the USYSA and grow the NPLs to have all the top teams in the nation.
Maybe ECNL taking a different approach (just read this)After initiating this review process, and in discussions with leadership of top performing clubs, the ECNL has approved the membership of the below listed clubs at this time, and each club has re-affirmed its membership in the ECNL in both the 2016-17 and 2017-18 seasons. The ECNL will continue to review other clubs’ eligibility for membership.
What happens to the HS girls playing on scholarship to attend private schools ?
LOL. Nice of US soccer to pay the refs fees wich run about $3 per kid per game or $100 per year. With the DA your training costs are 2X. I have seen the cost for the DA projected at 6K per player. Scholarships will be both need and talent based, but 60-80% of players will pay the full freight. In 3 years the DA will be great, next year the ECNL teams will still be better. Also, unlike the ECNL players will be moved off teams when warranted by skill or commitment.
5:23 - I had read that too. It looks like some clubs that take the DA, ECNL will still allow in the league. It dooesnt look like every ECNL team that took the DA. I did notice in the 1st group listed by ECNL, PDA and Stars were the only 2 clubs in our area listed. A Club like PF, that was listed on the 1st round of DA, ECNL did't list right away. There is 2 other ECNL clubs in philly, CFC and Bucks. If PF only has the DA, then the girls that do not make or want the DA but want to play top soccer will move to CFC and Bucks. That will help both of those clubs. If all the chips fall that way. Same in NJ, it could really hurt MF if they only get the DA and not back in ECNL.There is still a lot of time left in this chess game between US Soccer and ECNL. http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/home/920431.html
US Club Nationals Super GroupAtletico (NYE)FC Boston Scorpions (Mass)Lonestar Red (TX)NJ Wildcats (NJ)Pittsburgh Riverhounds (PA)Samba (MN)Seacoast United (NH)STA (NJ)Premier GroupFC Stars United (NH)Fusion (MN)Hawaii Rush (HI)NEFC Premiere South (MA)Three Rivers Black (WA)GPS ME Phoenix (AZ)
5:27They play HS, for nowLater - the player/family needs to make a choice, I'd think.Interesting question
ECNL did exactly what the DA did list the top clubs to encourage other to recommit.
NSCAA launches Showcase Integrity Program to combat fraudThrough the Showcase Integrity Program, college coaches can report instances when and where showcase events are using their name or school name without approval. The NSCAA will then take steps, up to and including legal action, to have the showcase remove that information. This service is available starting immediately to NSCAA College Services members, an institutional membership that gives men’s and women’s college soccer programs a range of benefits including legislative support, specialized national awards, national rankings, and other services.
Does anyone have any insight (other than they can) on why you have to pay to see your kid play in the Disney Showcase? It's not cheap to go and then they bang you for ticket $ to watch your kid play just for fun?! Pretty much has sealed my decision that our family not attend.
That sure rubs me the wrong way. Should be given a family pass - at least one. It's called captive audience and a bit of price gauging...ba$tard$.
It's obnoxious that you have to pay , my guess is that it helps pay for field maintenance
I went to the first Disney Showcase 16 years ago.Even then it was $9. for each member of the family to attend. Even young children had to pay.
Wildwood does it also for futsal.Youth sports is all about the money and you guys had beef with my country before club comment but it's okay for everybody to have their hand in the cookie jar.I call out the ECNL for not checking with the USSF before they set their postseason schedule during a world cup year and I'm what's wrong with youth sports. Not the coach who goes on a crazy rant even though his ECNL is to blame. Remember the ECNL answers to the USSF not the other way around.He tried to paint the picture that it was more important to play for a league title than a chance to represent your country in a world cup. yeah i'm the crazy one for not agreeing with the article and calling him out
Its about Money and Power.The USSF has done almost nothing to demand respect from the youth soccer world. So I will continue to have issue with Country before Club.The USSF are pseudo govt supported entity run by a bunch of boozo's. They kept making mistake after mistake. Now that the second batch of GDA teams was announced, its quite obvious that the DA will be more watered down than the current ECNL. They have let in some very questionable team in California.... and then letting in World Class and Match Fit is quite questionable as well. There are several other ways USSF could have implement and elite program and their basic premise is misguided.Look at the working conditions of the NWSL... they are dismal. Again, this is supported/run by the USSF. Throw in the birth year fiasco. Sure the top end kids will all be fine. But it is really sad the number of mid or lower level players than have been left without a team and are deciding to quit soccer altogether.
Why would you throw MFA and World Class together? For the most part the World Class teams have been non competitive in the ECNL. MFA on the other hand is always competitive and I believe has the 3rd most wins since they joined after PDA and Stars.
7:43 do you have a ting against authority? Seems to be popular these days.USSF doesn't need respect they are the federation that sets the rules when it comes to soccer in the USA. They don't need to ask for permission to do anything. Why do you keep saying water downed when more kids are included and will have an opportunity to be seen and evaluated?The DA would have been implemented earlier, remember the MLS is only 20 years old and the DA is only 7. Please say you are not calling the DA a mistake. The USSF pays the WNT salaries not the NWSL owners - the owners pay $6,000 to the other players. How is the USSF to blame that Sky Blue gets less than 2,000 fans per game and the Independence are no longer around?They are trying to keep a pro league for the women to play and you blame them? If they didn't pay and they don't have to do you still think the NWSL would be around or would we have another WPS?The world uses Birth year as does ODP and Super Y so this is not a new concept in the states. If you read this blog many posters said that players will stop playing by U16 and to enjoy your kid's instead of results but now we blame the USSF for this also.I like what they are doing maybe I stand alone on this1. College soccer will be played in the Fall and Spring instead of just the fall thanks to USSF to allow for further development.2. Changed player registration to birth year.3. Will run the top league for youth soccer for both boys and girls before they hand off to college4. And my favorite because of more teams and spreading the talent more players and many more minutes to go around.5. no re-entryThe USSF or our NTs should always come before any club like PF/PDA/MF/Real Colorado.
Shout out to PA's North Union United Wave representing Region I this weekend in the USYS National Presidents Cup championship in Tulsa. The Presidents Cup offers teams from smaller clubs or less intense programs the challenge of experiencing different types of play by competing from state to regional to national levels. The Presidents Cup provides teams with a progressive, competitive experience that highlights competition, camaraderie and community.
7:43 you said Now that the second batch of GDA teams was announced, its quite obvious that the DA will be more watered down than the current ECNL. The math doesn't add up to support your comment it's the opposite, which should make you happy but it won't because this will force top players to look for starting positions instead of sitting on a benchto provide depth. Also with no re-entry this will not water down the league just provide more quality minutes for the top players which will improve the college game and provide more polished players for our NTs as they will have an entire season to train and improve while going to collge instead of playing all their games with little training in 3 months.Currentlyone age group U14 ECNL 75 clubsortwo age groups U14/U15 ECNL 150 teamsor1650 starting players two age groups------------------------------BDAcurrently 97 clubsor1067 starting players
In NJ more clubs will be added.ECNL PDA/MF = 66 starting players currently U13/U14/U15GDA PDA/MF = 22 starting players 02/01
NYCSL Girl NPL Clubs2016/20171. Brentwood SC (NY)2. Manhattan SC (NY)3. Massapequa SC (NY)4. New York SC (NY)5. NJ Crush (NJ)6. NJ Stallions (NJ)7. Princeton SA (NJ) 8. Quickstrike FC (NY)9. STA (NJ)10. SUSA (NY)No MoreMatchFit and NY RushChampions.2014/2015U13 - STA (NJ)2015/2016U14 - Massapequa SC (NY)
2016 NPL Finals - U14 Girl5 NEFC Elite0 Space City FC1 FC Virginia United Elite 011 Davis Legacy 02
2 Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies0 BRSC 02 Girls Black3 FC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPL2 LVU 01 Girls
1 PDA South 01 NPL0 EGA Maroon 01 020 Claremont Stars SC Stars 015 Lonestars 02G Red SA
Day 2 previewI don't think anyone is expecting NEFC to slip in group play. The PDA south vs Lonestars is a huge game and can go along way to determine the wildcard.Florida and Massapequa with wins might clinch spots depending on the results in other games.
Looks like the Region 1 area teams had a good showing today. NEFCVAMassapequaPDA SouthThe only blemish was the 3-2 loss by the EDP runner up LVU.
And LVU will bow again to Massapequa in the morning.PA teams overrated
What happened to the Wildcats? I thought they were going to Colorado?
Across all 6 age groups, no local teams lost. Goal diff was lopsided. Very impressive.
Missed LVU. Only loss in like 17 games.
Wildcats are going next weekend to Colorado for National Cup. They couldn't go 2 weeks in a row so they passed on going to NPL Finals again this year and LVU, who was their runner-up in NPL Finals went in their place this weekend.
Wildcats will be National Champions this year I predict. Or at least runner up.
The NPL National Cup is not a national championship, you are delusional. Wildcats coach took a look at the NPL finals line-up and realized that NEFC was there, no point in going to Aurora to loose.
10:31 I was curious about their selection. They picked a crazy one that sends certain states to the finals and others to Regionals to play any team that pays instead of defending their league. I guess it shows how much they believe in EDP.I would have thought they would go back to the NPL finals and try to get out of the group this year.To each their own. I agree I would put the USC national Cup at the same level as USYSA President's cup. Sorry. USC doesn't send their best teams like USYSA does.
3 BRSC 02 Girls Black6 FC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPL4 LVU 01 Girls0 Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies---------------------------------------U14Flight B FC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPL 6pts +4Flight A NEFC Elite 3pts +5Flight C Lonestars 02G Red SA 3pts +5WC LVU 01 Girls 3pts +3Still Alive:Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies 3pts -2Eliminated:BRSC 02 Girls Black 0pts -5
What about PDA South?
Or maybe WC had 2 players up in Rhode Island at ODP Regional ID Camp this week and also the extra week of rest will hopefully allow one of their injured players to return by next week. But hey it's more fun to bash.
10:55 care to retract your post? Maybe they posted your entry on the LVU locker room wall before the game :)
What takes precedence NPL nationals or ODP regional camp?
2016 NPL Finals - U14 GirlsFlight A Pts W T L GD5 GF5 GANEFC Elite 3 1 0 0 5 5 0FC Virginia United Elite 1 0 1 0 0 1 1Davis Legacy 02 1 0 1 0 0 1 1Space City FC 0 0 0 1 -5 0 5Flight B. Pts W T L GD5 GF5 GAFC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPL 6 2 0 0 4 8 5LVU 01 Girls 3 1 0 1 3 6 3Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies 3 1 0 1 -2 2 4BRSC 02 Girls Black 0 0 0 2 -5 3 8Flight C. Pts W T L GD5 GF5 GAPDA South 01 NPL 6 2 0 0 2 3 1Lonestars 02G Red SA 3 1 0 1 4 6 2EGA Maroon 01 02 3 1 0 1 1 2 1Claremont Stars SC Stars 01 0 0 0 2 -7 0 7Still pending 2 A bracket games
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1 Lonestars 02G Red SA2 PDA South 01 NPL 2 EGA Maroon 01 020 Claremont Stars SC Stars 01----------------------------------------U141. FC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPL 6pts +42. PDA South 01 NPL 6 pts +23. NEFC Elite 3pts +54. Lonestars 02G Red SA 3 pts +4Still Alive:LVU 01 Girls 3pts +3EGA Maroon 01 02 3pts +1Massapequa SC Lil' Rowdies 3pts -2Eliminated:BRSC 02 Girls Black 0pts -5Claremont Stars SC Stars 01 0pts -7
0 Davis Legacy 027 NEFC Elite2 Space City FC0 FC Virginia United Elite 01Going into day 31. NEFC (6pts +10)2. FC Florida (6pts +4)3. PDA South (6pts +2)4. Lonestars (3pts +4)still alive5. LVU (3pts +3)6. EGA Maroon (3pts +1)7. Massapequa (3pts -2)8. Space City (3pts -3)
Just to recap; major summer Tournaments since you love the posts so much.ECNL FINAL 41. So Cal Blues SC2. Ohio Premier3. Eagles Soccer Club4. Concorde FireUSYSA Region1 FINAL 41. BRYC 01 Elite2. South Shore Select Elite3. Empire United Soccer Academy - Rochester4. NJCSA EliteNPL Finals - FINAL 188.8.131.52.USYSA National Championships184.108.40.206.US Club National Cup220.127.116.11.
NPL Final 41. NEFC2. PDA South3. FC FL4. LVU3 out of Region 1 Not bad
Interesting. Did PDA and LVU bring 3 guest players? How was the competition? Seeing how little resistance NEFC had, it seems they had an easy bracket to advance through. They would also seem to be the favorites and they are likely well rested.
They are the favorites because they are by FAR the best team.If they lose it will be to FLA
Jersey showing proud at ODP Region 1 camp. 7 Jersey girls made the team including two of the four keepers! Go Jersey!
9:16, great job NJ. although only one girl made team, other 6 made pool.
^^Oh, and go NY!
Pool or team does it really matter and NY sucks by the way!
ODP team and Pool for what exactly? Not familiar with ODP. Where exactly can it take you?
Is there a link to team/pool for region one?
9 NEFC Elite1 LVU 01 Girls2 PDA South 01 NPL3 FC Florida 01/02 Elite Blue-NPL
NEFC looks invincible. FL might be spent after the semi final battle that went to PKs. Hopefully they will have something left in the tank to put up a good fight, but NEFC should prevail.
Go NYSC G02, in the NPL final against NJ Rush, Go NYSC!!!
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