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Wednesday, October 11, 2017

U16 Girls Youth Soccer

U16 young women players are not playing for fun, they are playing to win.

Best to step aside, because they are about to barrel through...

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Anonymous said...

college coaches! ha. why cant they plug in college games into YSR - where the best team in NJ is ranked 21 nationally - yet still revered.

Anonymous said...

revered??
And YSR for college?? Unnecessary. NCAA takes care of it.

Anonymous said...

This board is no fun anymore, use to get a laugh when Wildcats would win, when PDA Storm was afraid to play them, when MF doesn't have coaches at practices, Crush had the crush-copter reposed, WC and their Daddy coaches, and good old dysfunctional Long Island USA, I miss those days...

Anonymous said...

5:50 i guess nothing has changed other than wildcats are PSA and crush is CSA.

The only thing that is a total surprise is that WC team stayed put and will dominate ECNL this year.

Anonymous said...

Oh no NJ people are upset!
PDA PDA PDA!!!

Anonymous said...

WC ECNL team should do well, I would say top 4, and another trip to champions league playoffs. The real question is can they score enough goals to beat teams, not so sure. They play a very conservative style, and wait to quickly counterattack, not sure that wins at the upper tier, they need to add more forward firepower.

Anonymous said...

Looks like PDA U16/U17 vs Virginia game will be streamed live at 11 by GDA this weekend. Lovers and haters will be able to share comments on this forum in real time.

Anonymous said...

How am I suppose to watch the game, when I am driving my kid to her DA game?? Can it be streamed into Waze???

Anonymous said...

My daughter has her permit. Time to let her drive and let me watch the game.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't let my wife drive that far, let alone my daughter, besides isn't your daughter playing in that game??

Anonymous said...

Yup
Driving is part of growing into a productive adult. Can't she drive to a game?

Anonymous said...

Productive adult? I would be happy with her picking up her laundry from the floor, now that’s a start.

Anonymous said...

You're the parent right?
Laundry on the floor= no training/game/phone/car/etc...
Teach consequences or our society will continue to feel entitled

Anonymous said...

Thanks 6:49, I knew you were the right person to ask....

Anonymous said...

Anytime for free advice
#bestparenthere

Anonymous said...

Saturday's outlook

Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17 1

FC Virginia U-16/17 4



PA Classics U-16/17 0

Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17 2



Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17 5

Virginia Development Academy U-16/17 1



Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17 1

Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17 1

Anonymous said...

10:45, if you’re going through all the trouble, at least list the A-league games...Northeast Conference.

Anonymous said...

Here's for the dude with small hands from NY

Empire United U-16/17 1

New York City FC U-16/17 1



Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17 0

FC Fury NY U-16/17 0



Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17 3

Long Island SC U-16/17 1

Anonymous said...

Those are pretty good picks/scores, but you are giving NYSC too much credit...even against LISC.

Anonymous said...

all the way to virginia to get pounded 4-1? or to tie 1-1.

mind boggling.

Anonymous said...

Why not? Teams do that already in other leagues and tourneys. They travel without knowing the outcome or even dreading the outcome.
And sometimes, the vegas lines were wrong.

Anonymous said...

Now that's funny...like you know the outcome of a game!! Every game is new and one never knows what will happen

Anonymous said...

We are not driving 4 hours each way to lose, if we do, no dinner for my wife!

Anonymous said...

Good luck to all my daughters past team mates, possibly future team mates at the DA this weekend for PDA, CSA and Spirit. I think at the least these girls and parents have made an all in commitment for soccer and must love the sport.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 10:09, aka Republican Party Speech Director, you can live through us, promise we will not judge you, too much....

Anonymous said...

Or an Oscar acceptance speech. "You like me; you really like me."

Anonymous said...

I heard Antifa will be at the DA games tomorrow....

Anonymous said...

Yes, but not for games in Virginia, those are covered by the other guys...

Anonymous said...

Yes, I forgot about the Asian confederate generals....

Anonymous said...

I am glad you have finally admitted it, the Chinese did not JUST build the railroads for free....

Anonymous said...

PDA 1-0. Fairly dominant, wore PDA uniforms with a Sky Blue patch.

Anonymous said...

NYCFC 4
EMPIRE UNITED 1

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion 01 DA 7
Virginia Dev Academy 0
what a joke !

Anonymous said...

why 7:0 the prediction was 5:1

Anonymous said...

6:49 So was it a joke to the 4 players who had to watch?
The benefit is that 8 players play the full game and 4 never enter the game.

Make no mistakes this benefits the players playing.

A roster of 24 girls has 6 girls not dressing and another 4 not playing.
make sure you have thick skin and don't wreck it for the girls playing.
Gone are the days of 7 subs per half for ECNL/NPL and unlimited for USYS.

I am a fan of less subs. You get to see the pecking order very easily.
For some this is worth 5k (if you are playing) if not like I said I hope you have thick skin and make the most of your minutes.

Anonymous said...

Some games will be easier than others until they work off the rust. What were other scores like for other teams?

Anonymous said...

I am sure there is some deadline when scores must be posted. nothing is posted. why blow the horns if you are not going to post the scores? let us see.

GDA management said...

The scores were so all over the board we decided they will not be posted for the first week.

Anonymous said...

Just saw that Empire United was outscored 27-2, ugh, just ugh....

Anonymous said...

Then why post a 7-0 win for PF but not post a 1-0 win for spirit?
The 18/19s pf had 10-0 win!!!

Anonymous said...

Is US Soccer handling the posting of the scores or team managers? Does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

Not sure, I think the home team infrastructure (a human person) is suppose to list scores, and game reports...

Anonymous said...

I bet the parents of the 10+ players not playing for pf saturday were so thrilled!!!!

Anonymous said...

Do you really think US Soccer is going to micromanage youth soccer scores?
I thought the scores don't matter at the GDA level -that it was all about the players? I guess. If it was about the players, there would be no need to post results.

Anonymous said...

Scores always matter

Have to learn to compete

Last fifteen minutes of a 1-goal or tie game can show COOL, CALM or TREPIDATION.

That is if the collegiate folk arein attendance.

Otherwise - hey..... maybe you are playing to stay in the lineup. Competition for scholarship. Competition for playing time. It's all good.

(and yeah, score matters in that sense)

Anonymous said...

3:02 there is no need to post them or track standings. If it's about player development, every game should be played like it's a qualifier. Win the game no looking beyond the game at hand.

8 of the players will play a full game and they will be the players with the spotlight on them as they play your last 15 minutes.

Anonymous said...

What players development? What is it? One team wins 7-0 and there is player development? Are these the best girls? It looks like everybody is struggling to put complete teams on the field , constantly using younger players . And they are lucky they can combine two age groups together otherwise will be even worst . Some of you are writing like Da cannot do anything wrong , like ecnl until last year. I understand you cannot have your ego and status hurt . But please stop with is only about development . Scores do not matter , winning and losing do not matter, These girls like the other will end up their careee in college or in environments where the result is the only thing that matter like in every competitive sport. Stop the nonsense only to justify something that might be good in the future but right now is struggling for quality and quantity.

Anonymous said...

6:46 aren't all the leagues struggling for quality and quantity? or are you speaking about soccer in general? DA isn't the be all end all. How can it be if you have some of the same players that weren't even very good in ECNL or USYS and then suddenly an emblem makes them better?

And, same with some coaches. I have seen some very good teams gutted by coaches that thought they were better than they actually were, too. Just because you understand the game doesn't translate into coaching it, successfully.

It's a sport. And not one that even pays well professionally for most females anyway.

Anonymous said...

Of course score matters. GDA has playoffs just like any other league.

New question that no one addressed...where there any college coaches on the sidelines this past weekend?

Anonymous said...

If GDA was purely about development then they wouldn't limit games to 3 subs. All limiting subs does is make the coaches have to make tactical decisions. It doesn't help develop those late bloomers who would otherwise be given minutes elsewhere. Guess that's the parents decision next year when they realize they've paid x amount of money and their daughter has played 20 minutes all year....

Anonymous said...

3 subs is the essence of soccer at this level and going forward if aspirations of nt are involved, get used to it.
yes their will be parents and players who, in all the excitement, didn't realize where they stood on the roster food chain...

Anonymous said...

US Soccer is developing the top of the roster, not the bottom. If a kid is not good enough to start for their local DA team then they are not good enough to call up. The DA is not pretending to develop everyone who makes the team. They only want the best of the best.

The limited substitution rule is to align with international play. It is also to keep players from running until they need a rest and then sit on the bench until they are ready to run some more. These kids need to know how to play an entire game. You especially do a disservice to strikers and midfielders by letting them rest on the bench. Constant subbing hurts the flow of the game as well. It becomes effort based and not team tactic based. You see many coaches sub to hurt the flow of the apposing team and this is NOT in the spirit of the game.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. It is then up to the club to emphasize this (Ha! that'll happen) and the parents to be properly educated to not fool themselves.

Anonymous said...

I definitely agree with the sub rules impacting the flow of play, and preventing coaches up in a 1 goal game from time wasting. The other thing I noticed is the stats contain playing time similar to college, it will be interesting to see how the 0 start 0 play girls from week one fair in week 2?? Or eventually if the entire roster looks like there is some type of equivalent playing time. How does a girl earn a spot on the field if the 14 who play are consistent and continue to win or keep it close? Also, is there a 2 keeper system where games are split by halves? or true starter back-up? the latter would really suck for the back-up.

Anonymous said...

There will be nearly zero college coaches attending DA games this season because they have their own season to manage. I talked to a coach during the summer and he laughed about it. They will attend the December event and events going forward, but not games!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the U of Buffalo coach did not get your memo, could of sworn that was her watching our game on Saturday, these coaches need to focus on their own team...

Anonymous said...

no doubt it's the pf connection...

Anonymous said...

Just noticed that PDA has 24 girls rostered for their DA team, while NYCFC has 17, so what is wrong with this picture??

Anonymous said...

Two things...
1. PDA making money and/or
2. High roster but girls being pulled up to 18/19 team as needed?
Classics is currently experiencing the same thing

Anonymous said...

6:26 Don't take this the wrong way but NJ had way more stronger teams than NYE ever had. So maybe they just have a larger pool. Cedar Stars also has 17 in the 99/00 group.

The question is why does NYE have 4 GDA team's this is not the boys side. NJ has only 2 with stronger girl teams.

8:01 PDA has 22 players in the 99/00 age bucket and 24 in the 02/01 bucket.
Very Sad with only 14 playing game day. I'm willing to bet not all are playing for free. Talk about watering down a product. Classics is not experiencing the same thing they are not even in the same conversation when it comes to brand on the girls side. Classics just had more girls that were real with themselves and their game. Play HS since NT will never be in the cards, nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous said...

8:46, Are you saying that within a 50-mile radius, NYCFC could not build strong GDA teams? The only thing stronger in NJ is the stench on the Turnpike around exit 8.

Anonymous said...

8:46
Can I get your cell? I'll check with you before I post a conversation to make sure it's what you deem "part of same conversation"

Anonymous said...

Why all the hate?

All I said was that NJ has a bigger player pool than NYE and that there was no need for 4 GDAs in NYE. Didn't say anything about what NYCFC can or can't do.
PDA, MatchFit, CedarStars, SJEB, NJ Wildcats, PSA, NJ Stallions, FC Copa, STA just to name a few compared to World Class, NYSC, East Meadow & Albertson. Who did I miss, there is no team in Brooklyn or Queens that is strong.

10:06 So you are saying PA Classics girl's program is the same as PDA? or you trying to be a tough guy?

Anonymous said...

GDA has team size requirements

Minimum 32 players- maximum 46 players - full time

That's across both age groups combined '02->'99

So 24 + 22 is at the max now. No doubt some are playing HS

They can also add developmental players

Anonymous said...

10:42
I read it as the club comparison was snarky but the discussion was about the roster sizes. Not how good you think the club is.
Of course classics and pda are very different

Anonymous said...

This weekend's scores:


Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17 2

Virginia Development Academy U-16/17 0


FC Virginia U-16/17 3

Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17 1


Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17 3

Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17 1


PA Classics U-16/17 0

Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17 4

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars is gonna be a joke first off, 4-0 loss. PDA will not concede a goal for a few weeks if your lucky. If you watched their game last week they were dominating and should have been 3-0 if they had more shots on target. Stop predicting scores you dope!

Anonymous said...

Says the guy who probably plays every fantasy sport there is

Anonymous said...

I like the prediction score posting guy, he tries at least. The board is becoming very tiresome, I need some real animosity, will give my wife a call...

Anonymous said...

Funny 11:40...
Used to be a guy that always posted predictions and the mature people enjoyed the banter created by this.
Too many defensive people around these days...
Bets wishes to all the ALL the DA girls playing this weekend!!

Anonymous said...

5:55 and what's wrong with that?

Anonymous said...

These score predictions is all we're going to get. So far YSR is not tracking any of the DA games :/

Anonymous said...

I expect the PDA vs Wash Spirit VA will be more lopsided than 3-1. I predict 5-0

Anonymous said...

@7:14. 2-1 Cedar Stars

Anonymous said...

PDA 2-0 dominated the game 80-20. Cedar Stars played the weakest team, lets see how it goes.

Anonymous said...

NYCFC 3
OAKWOOD 1

Anonymous said...

Stars was quick. Tough in the back 4, though they showed some cracks second half. I like how the keepers targeted players, though I would not call it "playing out of the back". First keeper pretty much untested, second keeper had a real nice leg save on a 1 v 1. (VA goal on a PK)

VA team looked young. Keeper kept the score as close as it was, though she left a boxed cross in the middle of the field leading to the first CS score.. No dominant field player for VA. CS's #7 led the play.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn’t Cedar Mulch release their game reports, how lame is that????

Anonymous said...

I thought Mulch played well. Using the keeper under pressure, and I think neither team punted the ball once, all balls were played out of the back. Which is the way soccer should be played. Of course punting is a necessary evil at times. Their was a couple of players for Mulch that were dominant in defense and offense. VDA was pretty good I thought. But the ball was on that goal line another 2 times in the 2nd half and VDA got real lucky that Mulch could not finish those balls in front of the net. In the end the result was accurate. VDA only had one or two chances tops in 45 minute 2nd half. I think Mulch will have a decent first season from what I saw.

Anonymous said...

Cedar Mulch usually does well. All depends on the consistency and the weather.
Imagine a down pour...the mulch washes away and ends up in the lawn...

Anonymous said...

Not it you spread them out correctly, then it will stay stationary, just like most of their players.

Anonymous said...

The 6 moved fairly well

Didnt see the other 4 get much into the attack (something PDA does so well). Maybe down the line......

Interested to see NYCFC and Sky Blue-Westchester soon

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Other sounds awesome, too.

Anonymous said...

You guys have nothing else better to do with your time than go see someone else's 15 year old kid play soccer. Go spend time with your own family and stop being a creepy stalker...

Chris Henson was at the game looking for you.

Anonymous said...

Jim Henson was also there you muppet

Anonymous said...

my kid plays on one of the teams mentioned, you creep. nice to see where your thoughts go, immediately.

Anonymous said...

haha
i particularly liked the Sky Blue - Westchester comment. thought it was clever.

Anonymous said...

Used to be a guy around who got inside scoop on accepted teams at tournaments...are you out there fella?
Looking for early casl list...

Anonymous said...

Get your mind out of the gutter, 7:42

Anonymous said...

11:47, your kid plays for Carlos and the Magical Mayhem Machine??

My deepest condolences...

Anonymous said...

@7:42 exactly the type of person who ruins this board. Must be arrogant, hated person in general. What is wrong with watching a DA game. His kid must be on MOSA team or want to be DA. And my kid was also on one of teams mentioned and yes I was there. Watching my kid. There was over 100 plus people at the game plus kids watching and waiting for next game. Go to the bar and watch your girls you creep

Anonymous said...

It is obvious that the person commenting on the two teams playing had no child in either club.

I say they are a creep because they are going to watch a bunch of 15 year old girls play soccer that they don't know. The fact that they took the time to drive to a far away field to watch other peoples children play raises many questions and red flags. I am in law enforcement and that fits the definition of type 4 predator behavior.

I am not talking to the people who were waiting for the next game or watching their own child.

Anonymous said...

How is that obvious? I am one of the posters and you are wrong. There were several teams discussed, btw. And, based on past experience playing one, i agreed and am with another one being discussed as an upcoming/potential one.

Anonymous said...

And i agree. there are weirdo's out there everywhere. but rest assured, based on my background in law enforcement, ones talking about the games and the kids with respect to their skill and ability on this site are not the ones you need to worry about.

Anonymous said...

This is classic about "written blogs". You get constant misunderstandings.

I vote for live social media blogs. We can all wear face masks to remain anonymous :)

Anonymous said...

I don't have a kid on a DA team and I was at Saturday's 10 AM game. I was curious of the level of play, having 2 daughters that may/may not play in the division. Actually got into a couple of good conversations regarding DA vs high school, etc.
Thanks for your concern for my well being, 11:16. And for protecting all the innocents. Sometimes giving off that persona is a good way to hide your own maladies.

Anonymous said...

11:16 is just crazy and I hope to God not in law enforcement. I do now of one mother who was going to watch because her daughter may try out, but that was actually for the 03 DA.

Anonymous said...

I would like to invite anyone who wants to see a great game to the NYCFC vs Boston Breakers game, Sat @3pm, bring the family, bring a holding chair, bring your girlfriend, or boyfriend, bring the nanny, bring granny, bring Peter, Paul, and Hairy Mary, see love the company!!!

Anonymous said...


Anyone know this clown and how low can you go?!

http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2017/09/ex-soccer_league_treasurer_accused_of_stealing_457.html#incart_river_home

Anonymous said...

12:32 and 12:37 here. i have background in law enforcement. i'm not 11:16.

Anonymous said...

Happy for LDC and Mt Laurel getting top flight nod at WAGS -go for yours girls.

LOUDOUN SOCCER 02G RED (VA)
BETHESDA SC FREEDOM 02 (MD)
LDC UNITED '02 (PAE)
NCFC YOUTH 02 ELITE GIRLS (NC)

CESC CALVERT-ELITE '02 (MD)
LMVSC PATRIOTS 02G RED (VA)
LAKE NORMAN SC 02 ECLIPSE ELITE (NC)
LA GALAXY OC PREMIER 02 (CAS)

SCOTTSDALE SOCCER 02G BLACKHAWKS RICHARDSON (AZ)
BEACH FC 02G RED (VA)
AFC LIGHTNING '02 GOLD - NPL (GA)
MOUNT LAUREL UNITED PRIDE (NJ)

Anonymous said...

Yes, agreed, great for those small teams. Now win the flight. Keep in mind that is a weaker top flight. No ecnl applications, all DA girls are playing DA. And many HS starters trying to make impact at HS level. I don't know the AZ or GA teams, but I give nod to Loudon and Beach

Anonymous said...

9:22
Are you congratulating teams and wishing them well or stressing the fact that your daughter is on a better team and not playing there?
You showed your true colors by using words like "small teams" "weaker top flight" "no ecnl teams" "no DA teams"
Pretty much a passive aggressive post.

Anonymous said...

"Now win the flight"

Relaxxxxx, pal.

We all know you can play well, play good constructive soccer and not come out on top.

Yes, small amounts (at least) of winning are necessary over the course of a season. But pinpointing and saying ou need to win a particular group is just silly childish banter.

Anonymous said...

Here is what I really think. It is a weaker top flight obviously. too obvious. But here is a chance for those teams to win at WAGS. So good for those teams. Now win the flight, or at least be semi-finalists. My daughter is not playing there, her club has not done this tournament for two years now. Last was at U13, same with FC Delco. We do CASL, Bethesda, Jeff Cup, PDA. Each to their own. Best of luck to those teams making top flight anywhere. Just play well and win the flight. Prove to me and mostly to everyone else why you are in the top flight.

Anonymous said...

I agree with last two posting. Win the flight is silly banter, but at least be in semi's to show belong.

Anonymous said...

9:22 they are playing for the coaches that show up and those coaches don't care about who's not there only if the players playing are a fit.

10:25 Win the flight applies to those teams if they want to be considered for top flights when more teams enter as 9:22 pointed out. Not the players,they just play and try to win regardless.

12:43 how is it silly banter? Wouldn't winning the flight help them at the next tournament they apply for?

Anonymous said...

NYCFC 3
BOSTON BREAKERS 0

Anonymous said...

NYSC 3
FC STARS 1

Anonymous said...

PDA-4
PA Classics-1

Anonymous said...

I would assume if Cedar Stars won we would have seen a post already.

Anonymous said...

NYCFC 3
FC STARS 1

Anonymous said...

CSA lost 2-0

Anonymous said...

person posting NYCFC scores, you do realize that many of the players on Boston Breakers were granted waivers. Majority of top players (basically starting lineup) are playing HS and will resume DA after HS season is over.

Top players from FC Stars playing ECNL

Anonymous said...

I am the person posting NYCFC score, and my daughter plays for both Breakers and Stars of Mass, and high school, and field hockey, and she is tired of your dumb comments....

Anonymous said...

I think I love you 1:09!!!!
Enough of the excuses!!!!

Anonymous said...

12:37, so should NYCFC vacate their results? Perhaps we should wait for some magical moment when all the best of the best of the best of the best decide they want to play? You need to spend more time (and money) on personal trainers for your daughter, since the ECNL season will be here soon.

P.S. No one is going to look at your comment and say, wow you’re right, they will see a bitter little person with a huge ax to grind, and that ax is still dull....

Anonymous said...

The one commonality I see in the posted DA scores is higher scoring. So no 0-0. 1-0. I believe the DA model is very smart, plays offensive minded and trying to score. If you score 2 or more goals in a typical match you will win. Especially if you are up 2-0. Soccer is a game that once you are up by 2 goals you can tighten defense and win games. And if it is 3-0 forget it, game over 99% of the time.

Anonymous said...

4:04, you are obviously soccer-savvy, and you know that if the other team does not pressure the GK she can basically stand there for quite and while and play pass to me with the back-line, its not pretty, but its good soccer.

Anonymous said...

Smart to play offensive minded? I kind of agree if it's offensive minded in a "chess" way. We need to teach our young players to play fast and relaxed soccer. We just can run up the field in a line looking for through balls that's bad soccer and only works vs weaker teams. When a team is organized on the defensive end and playing a counterattack game you need to know how to break them down. we lack that on both sides. We have skilled players, they just can't play chess which makes us very easy to defend.

I blame us parents for this - because we all love the fast attacking soccer and the coaches all look for players that can play this style. They don't look for soccer players that can play chess. Hopefully of the 70 GDA clubs they can find at least 1 per age group.

Anonymous said...

8:38 totally agree. many don't understand defense. i see coaches just plop players in the back as a default. stupid.

Anonymous said...

Ahhh yes, finally noticing the one of the big differences between ECNL and DA?? Clubs that can transition to a more technical and tactical style will be tough to beat. As I explained to an ECNL parent recently, DA is basically ECNL speed and toughness, but more cerebral....

Anonymous said...

So are you saying that kids that struggled in ECNL should not be playing GDA? I agree.

Anonymous said...

I have watched numerous DA games, nothing cerebral about the play or players.

Actually many players playing did not make ECNL teams in our area.

right Now ECNL still best option, DA about 5 years away from being top league. sorry

Anonymous said...

12:52 of the 70 or so clubs how many have you seen play and which ones?

What ECNL teams are in your area?

Don't know if I agree with ECNL as the best option,but that's your opinion and that's cool. I agree GDA will benefit the younger kids and in 5 years hands down the best league if not sooner.

12:47 define struggled? Are you saying players that played with first team and struggled (I agree) or girls that played a few minutes with reserves vs reserves? Big difference, I don't think you can judge the girls that played just a few minutes with reserves (not easy to play with a short leash with other non-1st team players).

11:48 good to read that they are making the girls think a few moves in advance. This is why I love the #6 player the most, if you have a good one that can move the ball to shift the other team around before she hits her attacking players. By now girls should understand their role and function in a unit with any player

Anonymous said...

3:03, i'm 12:47
your first option, girls that struggled with 1st team players in ECNL. Why not play ECNL and master it instead? It will help with confidence, too.

12:52 some areas have too many DA's like some other areas were flooded with ECNL teams. I don't agree with the best bet ECNL at least in my area. Most of the good players are playing GDA. But, every area is different. Will be interesting to see the evolution of the leagues as early as next year. The switches that take place.

Anonymous said...

3:03 agreed, but knowing your role and being able to execute with regularity is a huge difference. so the unit may still struggle as a result. not all kids are plug and play. some are just plug.

Anonymous said...

I have noticed the two DA games I watched that keepers do not punt the ball. they play out of the back, which is top 2 smartest things you do to play proper soccer and not rely on a 50/50 ball to win games. Also they do not kick and run. So you never hear a coach yelling "clear it, clear it". Or a coach saying "punt the ball" to his keeper. Those two things are damaging to a soccer players future, and yes parents are to blame along with coaches. but again I will say you do what you have to do in the end to win games, but clearing the ball and punting is a no no, and for sure DA is not doing this.

Anonymous said...

I agree, unless the other team is pressing your back-line, which some clubs just love to do (PF).... I leave it up to our GK, its her house.

Anonymous said...

Every game is different based on opponent. Same games you can roll ball out, some games you need to punt.

Example, you never roll ball out vs SO Cal Blues. High pressure with three tall, fast, skillful players.

A good team, good coach can do either one.

yes I agree, 5 years from now. younger kids will benefit.

Players born 2000,2001,2001,2003 personally will benefit in ECNL.

Anonymous said...

8:12 I disagree you want to roll the ball out so teams press b/c once you get out of your back it's game on with tons of space. But I do agree every week is different as far as tactical.

4:31 the one thing I hat the most is the goalie punting the ball, instead of keeping the ball they play a 50/50 I agree with 4:17. When you have the ball the other team can't score but you can. 4:17 i'm okay will playing direct if you can score in 2 touches why not,I don't care that it's called kick and run

Anonymous said...

September 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM

What is your keeper experience? My daughter is 2nd generation. And while I agree that punting is not always the answer I have to disagree with your dogmatic statement, I think you may have posted this before as well. I agree with the other poster who indicated that it is the keeper's choice, especially at this age. They have to read the field as well as the flow of play, sometimes under pressure a well placed punt can spring a fast forward if the keeper can read the other teams formation and back line. The keeper also can recognize the other keeper's tendencies and if a long ball from the back works to their advantage should play it. In games where a team is not pressing the keeper becomes an additional back, holding the ball at their feet and playing direct to maintain possession. I have also attended quite a few college games and you will see a fair amount of punts (both men's and women's) The bottom line is that with each play the keeper needs to make the decision on the best option.

It sounds like you may be the parent of a keeper who is not seeing time and critiquing the play of the current starter.

Anonymous said...

Well my little Susie is Hope Solo Jr. and she's the bomb!! Lol, you guys are funny!

Anonymous said...

8:54
agreed. a smart keeper knows what to do in various situations. and nothing is off the board as far as what to use in the tool bag when situations arise.

also agree about your conclusion. sounds like a deflated ball err i mean ego.

On another note, read an article about Kansas City in NWSL and it's financial woes. I thought the league was doing better and looking to expand.

Anonymous said...

9:39 - hilarious.

Anonymous said...

@8:54. no, more of a critique to coaches and teams that punt the ball all the time. Play the ball out of the back, keep the possession. Do not punt unless you have to. If the defender comes under pressure they can then kick the 50/50 ball.

Anonymous said...

@8:54. Being 2nd generation, wouldn't you agree the game has changed? When I played in the 70's and 80's, into early 90's we always punted, always. I really feel like only in last few years or so the keeper has become the most important player on the team, if they are good of course. Watch the German sweeper keepers, winning world cups. Also watch most pro and college games as the keeper is up high, communicating and organizing defense and really being the true 11th player. switching fields, and seeing the game. Hope Solo was really good at all that btw. And the Rutgers girl keeper Casey does this very well.

Anonymous said...

We are very lucky to have one of the best u17 Goalkeepers in this country, and yeah she does all of the above, but her greatest asset is her positive and encouraging personality, especially with the younger GK's.

Anonymous said...

2:36 PM

8:54 here. I agree wholeheartedly. I actually distributed more than most back in the late 80's. Thank goodness the position has evolved since then. My offense to the poster was a lot of non-keeper parents do not often see anything beyond a shot stopper. As a keeper and the parent of one I realize that playing from the back, utilizing the 11th player to control aspects of the game and be the eyes down field make than as important as the striker and CB. There is also a coaching dynamic that may not have a strong CM to direct traffic but a strong Forward or OB that can consistently win 50/50 balls. Again, having a strong, smart athletic keeper is valuable commodity, as evidenced by the interest I have seen for my daughter over the past few years.

Anonymous said...

you all ought to stop dissecting and analyzing all this. you're parents. you know nothing about the sport and anything you do know is from the 1980s. who gives a rats ass what you think. all that matters is what her coach thinks and what the next coach in her pyramid thinks. i read all this academy, ecnl, nonsense from clueless folk who pretend to know the sport and know the landscape, as if ANYONE could tell you the landscape years from now. has it ever struck you that in your self-proclaimed wisdom you might just have it wrong! that you might be dead inaccurate about the best leagues, best teams, your own kids status (good or bad), whether punting or not punting makes sense. I'm sur eyou're aware a little known team called Barcelona rarely punts, and rarely serves up corners. while another fairly unknown squad called real madrid loves punts and loves corners and serving balls into the path of monster athletes like bale, #7, Benzema.

Point is...go spend time worrying about your kids education, what classes she's taking, what her grades are, her community service.

This site atleast is fun and funny when you're bagging on each other on the coaches . The minute it gets all serious about the tactics of play...its throw up material.

Anonymous said...

Okay Pep, will try not to talk about soccer again, how about Cricket?? Now that game is very under-rated, and its great for tailgating, lots of drunk wankers like yourself in attendance, telling anyone who will listen, that they don’t know anything about soccer, Go Man City!!

Anonymous said...

3:55 you are correct about funny and you are the joke as you are the only one who is taking any of this seriously. All I see is a bunch of parents shooting the breeze about soccer at their kids level and some others that have nothing better to do than trying to find a hot topic and since it annoys you i add my opinion below

#1 player on the field is the #6 (the quarterback)
#2 player on the field is the #10 (the star running back)
#3/4 players on the field are the CB (Strong,Fearless and Fast)
#5 player on the field is the GK
#6-11 are all role players.

All contribute to the success of the team the decades may have changed but the game is still played the same way my friend.

While I get your post chill man this is just a board talking about girls youth soccer not the rocket man and how close we are to life changing.

Anonymous said...

4:20, I disagree, the most important player is the player with the ball....

Anonymous said...

One of the top 20 or so, 2:42

Anonymous said...

Hahaha, top 20......you have no clue, but that's okay, neither does your President.

Anonymous said...

355 is just a loser, obviously, just a complete loser. I back and agree with 420 a about 355. It is a shame you have posters like 355 that really ruin this board. probably same person who says watching DA games is strange. Thanks to other posters for great conversation.

Anonymous said...

Finally we have a TRUE President..

Anonymous said...

3:55 is probably a coach who punts all the time and wants to start trouble all the time

Anonymous said...

not 355 but thank you 420 for making her point! shooting the breeze!! thank you for laying out the field positions and position#s. i bet you're the parent who sits on the sidelines saying stuff like "man, i wish she would drop deeper, she's really playing more like a 6 than 4 or a 5! dang her SHES A 5!!! not a 6!!!! "
thank you for shooting the breeze.

Anonymous said...

5:02, cannot tell if you're being nice, if not, you should try harder. I think your point was let the coaches coach, the players play, and the parents keep quiet. Those points he made are all valid, but most would not voice them out loud, more under-the-breath stuff. If you're daughter is playing DA right now, just enjoy the ride, life is stressful enough, let this be a pleasant distraction, cheers!!

Anonymous said...

FC FURY 11
LISC 0

Great to see a nice close game!

Anonymous said...

5:02 I wouldn't be a fan if I didn't.

PS. bad example with your 4, 5 & 6s though. You do know the 4 & 5s are CBs, right and the 6 is right in front of them? Your dig would have made more sense if you said the 10 was dropping to far back.

Anonymous said...

I think the poster ran out of toes when counting. lol

Anonymous said...

CEDAR STAR , what a great team ! LOL

Anonymous said...

Sad that no one posts here anymore, this use to be a welcomed distraction. Miss the insults, name calling, and stupid predictions, those were good times, sigh.

Anonymous said...

7:44 - totally disagree

Anonymous said...

Okay, well, I guess you get an opinion, but my view is the only one that matters, no??

Anonymous said...

Stupid prediction for this weekend:

Close games from Cedar Stars at U14 and U15, and no contest at the 2 older age groups.

Anonymous said...

CSA is doing fine.

Anonymous said...

OK. Another prediction. NYCFC will outscore their opponent by at least 17 goals.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, LISC is pretty bad, they don't belong in this league, but I high doubt our coaches would run-up the score the way FURY did, its just low-class...

Anonymous said...

I think at that level teams should score at will.

In time the team (LISC in this case) will get better - or dissolve.

Anonymous said...

I was watching the champions league today and the keeper punted the ball! Ridiculous. They should get us development academy coaches to take these teams to stop this from happening.

Anonymous said...

You know 11:11, you are one of the funniest guys I know, please don't leave your day job....

Anonymous said...

4:58

Better to play a real game than to turn to keep away. This is not rec league any more.

Anonymous said...

9:57
THIS is the poster's day job. lol

Anonymous said...

I agree I'm okay if teams score a ton
Fury was making a point - if you live on the island there is only one club you should think of if DA is what you want. Nothing wrong with that, at this level if you don't have the goods you need to leave or you will be replaced once someone comes along. Very curious to see what the USSF does with some of these clubs if they can't field competitive teams -do they drop them like a bad habit? We are talking NT will be very cut throat the rest of the way. Goalies need to stop shots, defenders need to stop players from taking shots, holding mids need to control the ball and act like the general shifting the other team around and attacking players need to attack.

I always hated the your running up the score talk. No one benefits from not trying to score plus you make the other team run around even more instead of them working on their defense. The benefit is you get to see which players stop playing and which have heart.

Anonymous said...

Lets jump ahead to Oct 14th and the match-up between PDA and PF. Any over-unders - any age group?

Anonymous said...

Thanks 2:01, will give it a try!
PDA is OVER rated
PF is UNDER whelming

Is that okay?

Anonymous said...

I got Penn Fusion winning that battle.

Anonymous said...

2:44 - glorious!

Anonymous said...

Agreed, PF is playing tough, PDA doing just as well, and FC Virginia close. The northeast is similar, top third, middle, and bottom, except our bottom is a bit of a drop-off. We have been discussing the very real possibility of these teams looking a little different come Spring, or even next time around, come Nov. Anyways, really did not know what to expect with GDA, we (as a majority voting block) are very pleased. From the practices, the game-coaching, and the entire atmosphere. Besides, the uniforms are pretty cool, too ; )

Anonymous said...

Agreed.

Anonymous said...

And mostly good refs, too.
Facilities are very good as well. Nice turf or good grass. No fields yet with high grass or divots like playoffs last season.

Anonymous said...

DA is great. But what is happening to my daughter at her HS this season is just a miracle. I think should we hate to not be a part of what is happening to her HS team as they make run for titles this fall. And to have get on a bus or driver every other weekend 4 hours each way is definitely not what she wants to do as a sophomore.

Anonymous said...

You couldn't just leave well-enough alone, could you?? Can't speak for others, although I probably do, am happy for your amazing high school soccer season, it's especially great if the fire department throws you a little parade, when you come back with the state title, those are great moments, enjoy! For us, it's different, and you will never know....

Anonymous said...

1:58 it's wonderful for your daughter and her team. Glad she is enjoying it and is happy with her decision.

Do you wonder though, if they would still have success if the high level players were participating as well. Guess we'll never know.

I don't hear anyone talking about hs or missing it at GDA sessions. Even a mismatched GDA game is an overall way better match than any high school game I have watched this season, including the top ranked hs teams in my area.

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, congrats on the high school stuff. Glad she is enjoying it.

Reminds me of when my daughter's team won their league title. She and her teammates had to go through multiple teams that had multiple YNT players on it. Carried some club cred as well since these were girls well known throughout the leagues.
Good stuff. But not missed.

Anonymous said...

Is the Team LI goalkeeper that poor?

Even in a blowout a gifted keeper doesn't allow close to 11.

Anonymous said...

I was a Goalkeeper in High school, and I was always ready to blame my teammates, if they deserved it, so it's hard to believe it was only the GK's fault. How about giving the Alby Fury girls some credit?? As well as giving the Fury coaches some grief for running it up 😦

Anonymous said...

7:00 Soccer 101.

Soccer is a team sport if the midfielders and forwards can't keep the ball then the defenders need to stop shots the goalie is the last line of defense.
So when I see a big score that tells me one team couldn't keep the ball and couldn't defend well. Every player on the team has a role - easy to blame and to be negative.

The reality, is one team wasn't as good as the other. The Fury team should never stop playing their game. Their job is to keep the ball and score it'son the other team to stop them not the coaches. This is the USSF development academy. It's their job to get rid of clubs that can't field strong teams and replace them ones that can. Maybe Long Island shouldn't have 2 DA clubs. Fury did their part -made sure the parents on the Island know that there is only one club they should consider if their kids can ball.

3:27 why should they wonder and why would they care who isn't playing? Lots of posts about HS sucking and not missing it but yet first opportunity to throw a dig one is thrown.

Anonymous said...

PDA taking Cedar Stars apart 4-0 right now. Stars yelling at each other ugly soccer. Punts and long ball for the loss.

Anonymous said...

Hey now. Communication is part of Soccer.

Anonymous said...

PDA's ECNL teams would beat Cedar Stars DA teams. I don't think anyone who knows the players can argue with that.

Anonymous said...

Probably true but if the best players moved on to the DA, why would anyone want to be on the huge roster of the PDA "B" team? Or any ECNL team for that matter. Rather my daughter play 90 minutes, get great exposure at the top showcases and go against the best then wear a powder blue shirt and win on a "B" team. In a few years, all the DAs will even out as more and more people will realize that their daughters don't need to play at PDA to get the same opportunity for their daughter at another DA.

Anonymous said...

Was CSA NT player in that game? If so, hard for me to believe they did not fight hard, if not that explains everything pretty much.

Anonymous said...

NYCFC won all 4 games yesterday against LISC, but the game was overshadowed by terrible officials, who almost let the game get out-of-hand. It was basically a HS team vs GDA team, where soccer skills take a back-seat to surviving-the-game-intact. Multiple non-calls for rough-play, which was too bad for LISC, because the team did not back-down, not 1 step back. Perhaps they forgot that every girl on this squad played HS soccer last year, too.

Anonymous said...

Please Cedar Stars poster/PDA hater. PDA ECNL teams will get more college looks and more committed kids then any CS DA teams. Keep living the dream.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, Cedar Stars NT player was in and actually scored a goal! Just in the wrong goal. Then she went down with a mystery injury and left the game as usual. She was yelling at her players, at the keeper just ugly! She's a head case good luck to Penn State managing that mess!

Anonymous said...

Ouch, 10:09 calling it as he sees it, guess there aren't too many supporters on PDA?? Right now its mostly a 2-team race in each conference. Good luck to all....

PDA
PF
10/14/ H-to-H

NYCFC
FURY
10/7/ H-to-H


Anonymous said...

ECNL teams will get exposure for sure....but league is much diluted with most top girls moving on to DA to be replaced with NPL. So PDA has enough talent to eke out a team, but who are they playing? Keep believing what they're selling you at PDA.

Anonymous said...

WC ECNL wil be very competitive, they mostly stayed intact, they only lost 3 players to GDA, which compared to others is pretty low.

Anonymous said...

Btw, an ECNL parent smugly asked me the other day if we could beat my daughters previous ECNL team, no I said, we would destroy them.

Anonymous said...

5:21 you sound pretty smug yourself. Don't live your life through your kid.

Anonymous said...

Hey, he started it, no one has said anything bad about the girls or the league, we have all moved on, and I wasn't being smug, I am being truthful, but don't let that get in the way.

Anonymous said...

10:09 let me this straight you are trying to talk smack about a girl going to Penn State to play Division 1 soccer? Maybe she wanted to win vs her previous club and let her emotions get the best of her? She's a kid, adults look like fools when they let their emotions take control.

Anonymous said...

Yes 8:06, you got it straight, its a wonderful world.

Anonymous said...

10:04 - please. Rutgers doesn't count. CSA will get attention, too.

Anonymous said...

Not sure why Cedar took the #7 out of the midfield for this game, frankly.

Anonymous said...

Since it's about development, they put her in a different position, maybe they want her to develop there, too. The pieces are moving for all of these games. And, they will probably play each other again in the next couple of weeks. And, you'll probably see a different line up.

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