agreed. they give you a good game, but in u16/u17 standings VA teams are 3rd, 4th and 7th and in u18/u19 in standings VA teams are 3rd, 4th and 7th. why the cheerleading?
With GDA has there been any assistance in playing college soccer; anything more meaningful than scouts might attend games. Do GDA programs provide any assistance in finding a college that is a good fit for the players.
Soon all the ECNL families will be coming to their team practices, and although they will appear friendly, be forewarned, for the most part, these people want to see the GDA fail. It's not so much that they have to win everything, everyone else has to also lose, otherwise it's not a good day.
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National League starts with their Fall Showcase in NC on 12/1. All NL teams nationwide attend. This is a Thursday to Sunday showcase that runs along with CASL Showcase that runs during that weekend. The National League season starts in the Spring regionally.
To ask who the favorites are is hard to determine.
PA and NJ are sending three teams each this year. CA is sending four teams MI is sending three teams
Also have these teams been impacted by GDA as in lost players in particular impact players? All of this is based on last year.
Most teams were impacted by GDA either losing kids directly or kids leaving hoping for spots that didn't happen so others in those old spots. This goes for ECNL too.
Ask your DOC if GDA kids are allowed to attend College ID camps during GDA season. (they can during offseason).
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1:17 Just one correction "The National League season starts in the Spring regionally." is False.
December Showcase are also the first 4 games of the season. The remaining 3 will be played in either FL or NV. The Division champions advance to the National Championships in July and the top 3 qualify for next year's national league. The Eastern Regional league starts in the Spring with the top 4 teams advancing to the national league next season and the champion qualifying for the Region1 Championships.
I agree with your comment in regards to who the favorites are. Since Clubs accepted to the ECNL and GDA will now be sending their B teams or will be missing impact players. This is where the USYS NL dropped the ball.
2:13 - i'm 1:48. agreed. I would ask your club DOC. But, as some in our club have found, if the id camp does not interfere; then you can. for instance if you have a sunday game and camp is saturday, attend. if you have a sat game and sunday is camp, attend. and, college coaches are still recruiting. GDA isn't the conduit. The club is still the point of contact.
3:38 you may be right for some teams, but I believe there are some teams in National League that haven't lost players to GDA or ECNL and would be very competitive or likely beat must ECNL teams. Again I expect there to be less of these types of teams than in the past in NL
i think that is the argument too. the measurement of ECNL is an unknown as well. if the team you reference can beat ECNL if ECNL is watered down, then what is the true measurement this year of all teams. ALL of it is an unknown. Maybe it will flush out by the end of the season when roster adds and drops occur after try-outs. This year is going to be a wide open soccer season for sure.
Agree all three platforms are watered down now although the most "best" players are likely in GDA. ECNL and NL will have strong teams and players and some weaker teams. GDA has a couple of weak teams.
I agree these teams can't send their top teams or top players. Was Empire in the national league? or just the regional league
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So Scarpelli is not helping her CSA to win? Isn't she a national team player, doesn't that for like 3-4 players worth of talent?? Sorry for this tired old quote, but I just gotta, so what goes around, comes around....
Stop dropping names here. If she is on Nat Team or not - kudos to her if she gets same exposure but better Training. At this stage it should be about getting ready for the nat team competition and not making some dad happy with a win.
My #1 question would be whether PDA will make playoffs - it seems that on paper there are 3 teams that will end up above them in the division.
CSA is having tough time. NT player is out for next year with torn ACL. They have great facility with 4 lighted turf fields right off parkway. That is going to attract in future.
Well If you are counting LS, future Penn State superstar as the Nt player, she has played in 7 games and scored 2 goals according to the DA site. However, I think she's a centerback at least she was on the NT so that may be good production.
Please do not mention the names of a child here. Who knows why she moved, could be a very simple reason like being closer to home. Tremendous talent, but unfortunate that she moves every year or two.
Just posted final above for Bethesda. Great for Wildcats only team from NJ in the race with 14 flights. They had a real good 2017 that got them into this bracket.
1:53...how in the world are Loudoun and Beach FC not in the top bracket at Bethesda? Wildcats and Century V both didn't make it out of their group at USYS R1 championships in July. Beach FC was the R1 finalist and Loudoun won the championship. Beach FC beat Massapequa and Loudoun beat LVU there. According to GS, it looks like Loudoun also beat Bethesda ECNL last year when they played. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
Scratch that, never heard of Beach FC, or Loudon, or a Massapequa, and I don’t see them in the GDA national standings page, so I guess they are NOT relevant, anybody want to talk politics?
Wildcats are gritty winners. They are the great players from area resisting PDA and DA. Add fuel to fire NJ Wildcats Averbuch top bracket at CASL. They had decent year playing top teams in 2017 spring.
Resisting? More like they lack the technical skill to make PDA DA teams, but CSA will take anyone with a heartbeat, well maybe not anyone, let me rephrase, they will take anyone with a heartbeat and an old soccer ball, heard they were running low on both.
FC Stars ECNL U16 FC Boston ECNL U16 Connecticut FC ECNL U16 FSA ECNL U16 Albertson Fury ECNL U16 World Class ECNL U16 PDA ECNL U16 Match Fit Academy U16 FC Bucks ECNL U16 Continental FC U16 Maryland United ECNL U16 Bethesda SC ECNL U16 East Meadow SC ECNL U16
FC Maximus is in 2nd bracket from NJ. otherwise in top two brackets only wildcats and maximus. Maximus are now stallions. Been around long time and just merged.
Wildcats beat Maximus in both state cups winning 1-0 in the quarters in NJYSA and 2-1 in the Finals in NJ Club Open Cup State Final. Must be talking about Maximus winning a league game.
CASL looks like a big tournament. i wonder if they grabbed some of the Disney groups that didn't want to screw up a national holiday? our Club is still going to Disney, should be fun, but i'd be lying if i said i wish we hadn't.
Not affiliated with max or wildcats. At the end of spring they were very even (ranking), and the last game went to maximus. So, it all depends on how the coaches recruited. My assumption is that a some kids went to CSA GDA and to NYCFC GDA from each club.
Difference with wildcats and max is wildcats played at regionals and semi finals at nationals. likely pushing them into top bracket. Maximus is in great shape at 2nd bracket at Bethesda. believe me. Most players can only dream at U16 in being top two brackets. Their are 12 lower brackets.
Guys it's U16 which is the magic year for college recruiting. If you are in top flights in the big college showcases then it doesn't matter what league you are in because you will be showcased at CASL, Jeff Cup,ets in front of ALL the college coaches and programs in Region 1. Was there last year at CASL and at main site it was wall to wall college coaches for top flight games in U16 age bracket. Those who are still focused on results this year moving forward at U16 are foolish. The results mattered BEFORE U16 to get the resume up to snuff to have their team accepted and flighted in the upper flights this year. If your team is not there this year then it's probably too late for a major college offer. Much tougher to get ANY athletic scholarship offers next year at U17/Junior in hs as top 5 power conference schools are already finished with their classes at the end of that classes sophomore year in high school. If your daughter is looking at lower D1 or D2 or D3 then it's not as important as those schools wait for what's left after major D1 programs and Ivy League schools take their pick.
1:24 hit nail on head. Wildcats have been great since U13 and earned this spot. And had one of their best years in last year or so. Also with Maximus. Maximus is very good and has been good since about U13 as well. And now Stallions Maximus. Of course you would have DA and ECNL events as well. But no doubt being in the top flights at Jeff Cup, CASL, Disney, Bethesda and PDA look real, real good on resume. And of course top coaches will look mainly at the top brackets based on invites from players in those brackets.
Yes and many of the ECNL Teams are in those same flights so that will only raise exposure of NPL teams in top flights who play them in these showcases as every college coach who comes to see ECNL players will see the players on the opposing teams play as well.
Agree about results no longer imperative(state cups, regionals, nationals, NPL finals appearances), that hay needs to be already in the barn at U16. It's all about exposure now
1. How does a team get into the top flight at these events? 2. CFC Delco or FC Bucks will be in the top flights at these events, if not why not? 3. So your kid is playing U16 again? Isn't the 2019/2020 age group the most important (Juniors and Sophomores? 4. Results are foolish? For GDA, ECNL, NL, Regional Leagues and NPLs results are very important. 5. Arent' these the teams in the top flights (the teams that win)? 6. Results mattered before Birth year Change but in year 2 they don't? 7. So only playing in top flights gets you a major college offer? 8. if college is the goal why do you value "power 5" more (that's how your post reads)
2:37 You agree? I disagree - College coaches care about the flights the kids they identified play in.
2:41 Why are many ECNL/NPL teams in those top flights? I argue that this is what's wrong with soccer in the USA. If what you say is true teams are in the top flights even if they are bad teams. So why isn't CFC Delco, FC Bucks, Brentwood, Quickstrike, TSF or Copa in the top flights? They are ECNL/NPL? Must be the coach connections?
2:46 How do you get this exposure? What criteria is used by these events to compare teams from all over the country if results mean nothing? Oh I forgot U13 results are used
Well I will try and answer some of your questions. First off I said results "moving forward'for NPL Teams are not very important because the resume in place are what determines the flighting for this current year and U16 is the most important year by far. for D1 recruiting. There fore my comment that the hay has to already be in the barn as far as results and resume by U16. Also you can disagree but it's a fact that for these schools in D1 (other than lower level d1 schools) the sophomore year is when the classes are filled in and the $$$ are promised out to the recruits. Classes are mainly completed by end of a graduating classes sophomore year for these D1 Programs. As far as criteria for flighting look at Raleigh they have a designation next to each team that is a state champ, regional champion, national finalist, etc because it raises the profile of their tournament so that answers your question about the main criteria for flighting for the NPL Teams. And yes the ECNL Teams also get a boost from being in that league. And of course coaches care avbout the flights you are in as college coaches care very much about seeing a potential recruit play vs the top competition as the lower the flight the less they can base what they see from a player as representative of what they could do vs the top level. for high level D1 schools they need to see you play vs other D1 recruits of it's not a realistic look for them.
Any designations that teams had will be re-evaluated this year. The teams got changed 2 years ago due to age group change, and then again last year due to DA. I'm sure coach's reputation and assessment means just as much as the results from previous year in these circumstances.
Coaches will come out disappointed. Even in the top 3 brackets at CASL quality of selection is suspect - there are many that belong, and many that do not...
What are these teams ?? in the top 3 brackets: Lonestar SC U16 DA Pilot - no results most likely a B team to a GDA team Penn Fusion SA Npl 2002 (craigie) - results against bad teams - also a B team to a very good GDA team FC Bucks - team that has a 1-19 ECNL record and allowed 100+ goals last season
College coaches will be at first day of National League on Thu and Fri. Then likely at CASL rest of weekend or at least that is what they usually do. You GDA parents need to get over yourselves. Coaches find talented players and there are players at NL and CASL.
We need a system like that in place to build world class players and need to stop being politically correct. The GDA is to find NT level players - if a player doesn't make the NT then they failed at that level.
You don't play GDA to get into college - you play GDA to play for the NT.
I think he is listing how many in each class are committed at time of casl but of course older classes have more commits. If you show 2019/2019 last year that includes almost all juniors and seniors. Naturally more players in junior and senior classes are committed in December than sophomores at that point. My point is U16 is getting the most looks and exposure because many juniors have already committed.
All he has to do is look on any recruiting sites stats and he will see most of top 150 juniors are already committed at this point. They are much more focused on sophomore class, (which is mainly 2002-U16) from now thru PDA Tournament.
Got a chance to watch the ECNL girls practice last week, ugh. It's amazing how much high school deterioates the quality of the players, good luck to all the teams headed to Phoenix and Bethesda...
Was at the National League Showcase last year in NC. It was a who's who of D1 school evaluating. Thursday and Friday were busy, Saturday was less coaches and Sunday was a ghost town. Very exciting for the players to see that. They are looking forward to it again at the end of the month.
So, given there are 300 div 1 schools its really not that surprising that nl tourneys would be loaded with div 1 coaches. What would be interesting to know is how many are power 5 or top 50 programs. At ecnl last year there were prob 20-25 top 50 coaches over the period.
what is bizarre is that it's the same time as the college cup, still. worked when college cup was in NC, but now in FL. And college cup is immediately before DA Showcase starts. So, will coaches be in NC at CASL or NL; or in Florida for College Cup and GDA? Or will they take in a day in NC and a day or two in FL to attend both showcase events?
This is what will be interesting. How was WAGS this year? A lot of coaches or not? Used to get a bunch. All of this is new even for the coaches. Thanks US Soccer.
7:02 is pretty close actually. Many coaches go based on invites. If they are invited by a few players on one team, or teams playing against they send someone. Most DI schools have a few coaches on staff. Be sure to invite coaches.
7:02 nice snarky GDA parent comment. No doubt the most top players are likely playing in GDA. But everyone said the same thing about ECNL last year and look at some of the team's ripping it up in the GDA this year...Nationals from Michigan a USYS team has won nearly every game. Cincinnati also from USYS is doing excellent in GDA. Bottom line is that there are excellent players and teams sprinkled across GDA, ECNL, and USYS/NL. Coaches will be at NL games and showcase tournaments for non GDA teams and not just sending "Coaching interns"
Of the NL teams updated U17 has 7% of it's players committed vs 3% for U16. The math doesn't support U16 as being the place to be (next year this age group for sure). Schools will pick from their list who they want to cover. If ECNL/GD/NL only has 2 players interested in their school and CASL has 15 then guess what they will be at CASL. Come on man, they don't just unless they have an interest and it's a two way street.
Interesting Map considering the ever changing landscape. College teams with bigger budgets can do more, and if that means sending a scout to a lower tournament because there may be a top player they will find a way to get there. I agree that most college women's soccer coaches are not staying at 5 star hotels or eating steak every night (unless they are looking for the NCAA police to come calling), so they want to maximize their recruiting budget by catching as many players as possible that fit their 4 year plan. If this means making a decision over a busy weekend they will most likely choose wherever the players who are on the radar and have shown interest are. I also know that for the next few weeks at least the top programs are busy with the NCAA tournaments so the coaches focus is most likely on his current team. Bethesda will probably be missing quite a few scouts as this week kicks off playoffs.
11:27 - can't just post on U12. i can't tell you the amount of teams including older that still beat their chest or advertise about their Got Soccer Rankings. We learned years ago that it's a meaningless ranking when older daughter played. But it allows teams to crank up the schedules and go to a bunch of tourneys (some good and some not so good) just to get points that have very little value in the real soccer recruiting world.
12:36 - but you answered your own question, those teams aren't in NL anymore. they moved to GDA. i'm not trying to be snarky at all and not other poster, but it has to be very confusing even for the coaches where to go as the talent is all over the place.
1:16 I am not sure what is confusing about my post.
4:01 Agree with you that those teams moved to GDA and are not in NL anymore. Was trying to make the point that ECNL parents would come on this board last year and say that all the top players and teams were in the ECNL. As former NL talent moved into GDA and compete with former ECNL players this year they are doing quite well in many cases. I was making the same point as you that there is talent across all three leagues. Agree that it must be difficult for coaches.
3:58 They are right those results mean a lot if you read back a few posts. From u12 to U15 they set the team up for top flights. So all those points and wins do matter.
Anonymous said... 1:24 hit nail on head. Wildcats have been great since U13 and earned this spot.
people will always change their opinion depending on which side of the fence they are on.
10.37 they are not an ECNL club. Yes there are strong clubs that are not ECNL.
The 2017 Fall MRL season suports the u17 team not being as strong as the GDA team probably has more 01s than 02s since the 02 teamis still tops
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A word from the wise, those rural roads leading to the fields in Maryland all have speeding cameras, and they will catch you, and find you, stay compliant people.
Wildcats has many DI commits yearly. But so does PDA, Match Fit, Copa. Wildcats is great club for certain ages and girls. It is on smaller side and certainly worth look.
WC ecnl will be one of the top ecnl teams this year. Ecnl is a mixed bag with DA taking a lot of the star players away. I thought maximus was playing bethesda. Most ecnl teams are now b-teams so the ones that stayed intact will be much better this year. There are some stinker ecnl teams now. Especially in the 01 range with clubs that have affiliate DAs. Even match fit will be decent. I predict pda will be middle of pack ecnl this year.
816. First if you know the ECNL and DA landscape, you will know majority of top players did not go to the DA. yes a few did, but coaches are saying the DA games is a very low level, painful to watch. One club PDA does have majority of ECNL playing DA. But rest of country is not the case. ECNL at u15 and above has the better players playing.
10:08 - you have no clue. MOST did go GDA; some did not; in particular in most other parts of the country. stop trying to justify your decision to not go GDA by dissing those that did.
10:42. You obviously have no clue. Go search ECNL rosters and compare to last year, oh man wait .. Hmm so many teams stayed... Obviously not looking at teams no longer in ECNL.
PDA moved their best 01/02 players to DA, Penn Fusion and Breakers left ECNL completely, so what does that tell you? As far as the rest of the country, don't really know, and don't really care. Seems to me that the ECNL parents are a little nervous, and I can't blame them, so are we. Don't we all want our daughters to be seen and recruited? WC 02 ECNL is a good team, not sure if they are a great team, but only time will tell, but it was a great start, no more, no less. Pretty sure that poster was not with them, they realize that bragging on this forum is insecure, and moronic, besides it's not easy being a B team at their own complex.
word on the back of the net forums was that some wc, stars and east meadow teams/players tried to stick it out for 1 more year of ecnl. we'll see from the results.
for comparison, right now the u14 team for ecnl pda team has 5/10 wins - and non-gda teams (match fit and east meadow) are ahead on points. most of the old - pure ecnl teams (cfc/marylan/bucks etc.) still way behind.
Its very naive to think the best players stayed in ecnl. Yes certain teams llike socal blues stayed intact like world class and match fit as well. But also please remember that da is 01/02 and they will keep the best players they can which in general seems to be about a 75-25ish split. Plus DA is like a merger between top ecnl and top national league teams. Look at the midwest you have 3 top national league teams 4 ecnl teams and a newly formed teams. The east seems to have a lot of newly formed teams.
Ecnl is going to be very mixed as well. Many of the very athletic or very skilled have moved to DA. Assume on many teams top 2-6 players have moved on to DA. Then you have the ones that stayed together the ones that lost a few and the ones that lost most. Like in philly you pf was tge only good team. Now they are gone so its just continental and bucks. What does that say for competition.
This year 03 will be a joke in ecnl (da has 20+ 03 per team) as will 01. Next year if you are not DA you will see a major drop across the board. This is the last year ecnl will be solid in my opinion.
The players at these tournaments play equally or supposed to. It's a showcase, get players seen. However some teams do play to win and sacrifice the players time to be seen to win at all cost. I am glad our coach told our players that all will play regardless of score, all playing equal time. Good coaches in attendance
We had 13 at first game 11 at second game.american manhattan lehigh new hamphshire drew umbc njit gettysburg dickinson salisbury state albany stockton barton. Longwood. Desales mostly small D1 schools
LVU and Bethesda ecnl take top bracket. Congrats. Well deserved. McLean ECNL nice showing taking their bracket. STA and Cherry Hill not bad. Wildcats at least played great teams. But coming home 0-3 with no points. Psa finished off well. These teams are all so different from spring. At least a couple of top players per team went DA.
For those teams at Bethesda did the coaches get the memo about this being a showcase or were they coached to win with a short bench in close games instead of all players playing a minimum of half the game. If we are comparing apples to apples then great showing for all 5:54.
The post didn't say kids played at least 50%. It said everyone played. hopefully everyone did get ample playing time in order to be able to showcase. that's the purpose of those tourneys. scores don't matter. not all coaches or parents buy into that though.
Why would he/she post they played if it wasn't 50%? I don't think there are coaches out there that still do that, why would they? The results mean nothing and have nothing to do with future placements that's like common knowledge.
With State Cups, ECNL, NL, NPL and ERL for Region 1 teams there is enough to place teams. Every premier team falls into one of these categories am I wrong?
Some of you parents need to think of a few things: 1. this is not u12 anymore 2. reality check-very few girls will make top D1 teams 3. not all girls want or can do D1-your daughter is not the best, be real 4. get a life, stop living vicariously through your daughter
12:10 it didn't say played 50%; it said everyone played. getting in for 20 mins in second half isn't 50%. Playing 1 full game and not seeing field time the rest of the tourney isn't 50%. some teams do honor 50% playing time for all. some don't and value the points instead. these type of tourneys should have a percentage play rule.
Are you speaking from experience 1:11?? Are you frustrated about the drive, hotel fee, and crappy dinners with parents you truly dislike? Yeah, me too, but in 2 years you will look back at these days, and be saddened, not because of the events mentioned, but because the process is over.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
1. Correct not U12 anymore - showcase events are SHOWcase events for ALL. 2. Correct so why don't we let the D1 coaches be the judge of who is or who isn't, why are you so worried? 3. Correct, study and bus rides plus training and passing exams are not for everyone 4. What exactly are you doing posting on a youthsoccer message board? Aren't you living your life through your daughter, she's playing and you are posting.
Just 2 ways to see things - go ahead you can say your way is the right way, I opened the door
Cedar Stars players are running for the exits.Players are calling other clubs to secure place on teams for spring. Another very shady coach who got fired from PDA years ago for history of inappropriate behavior with his minor players, including a suspension from coaching for drinking with players in hotel room at away tournament just hired by CSE. Guess that fits the profile of what they have on that staff on girls side.
He should of gone to World Class, some of the older ECNL girls have already started their drinking games at tournaments. Yes, this story is true, sad, but true....
you're welcome 8:23 8:32 - i'm the epcot reference poster and don't have to give myself a digital backpat. i have other interests. may want to read something other than youth soccer blogs.
let's not poke that bear this early in the morning (male vs female athletes and accountability). look at how long it has taken for Elliott to be suspended.
1:27 I was relating my comments to the posters who trash tournaments if those perfect D1 schools aren't there. Too many parents misjudge their daughters' potential. I read and post on here bc sometimes there are mature conversations...although very little anymore.
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agreed. they give you a good game, but in u16/u17 standings VA teams are 3rd, 4th and 7th
and in u18/u19 in standings VA teams are 3rd, 4th and 7th. why the cheerleading?
Because it annoys you, that is why I cheer-lead, want some more?
Not annoying at all. plenty of empty barrels out there. continue with your senseless babbling.
Hey site administrator - can you update your filters to block these unrelated posts?
when do the national league and regional league (is there still one?) games begin? Any early favorites?
The USYS National and Regional leagues have both folded, RIP.
With GDA has there been any assistance in playing college soccer; anything more meaningful than scouts might attend games. Do GDA programs provide any assistance in finding a college that is a good fit for the players.
Yes 2:23, I am on a conference call right now with Duke, Stanford, and Harvard, how about you guys?
Tab Ramos connects with college coaches at CSA.
Kaz knows dozens of college coaches, but talent and effort is what gets attention, NOT who you know.
Well, except, maybe in your case....
GDA insists that college soccer is incompatible with US Soccer. They do not allow players to contact colleges and to attend ID camps
#Fakenews
#Getalife
#Ecnlshill
Soon all the ECNL families will be coming to their team practices, and although they will appear friendly, be forewarned, for the most part, these people want to see the GDA fail. It's not so much that they have to win everything, everyone else has to also lose, otherwise it's not a good day.
If I must choice between War and Righteousness,
I chose Righteousness
-TR
National League starts with their Fall Showcase in NC on 12/1. All NL teams nationwide attend. This is a Thursday to Sunday showcase that runs along with CASL Showcase that runs during that weekend. The National League season starts in the Spring regionally.
To ask who the favorites are is hard to determine.
PA and NJ are sending three teams each this year.
CA is sending four teams
MI is sending three teams
All these States are sending teams, are these State-best teams?? Also, do they know where they are sending them, do they have directions??
Also have these teams been impacted by GDA as in lost players in particular impact players? All of this is based on last year.
Most teams were impacted by GDA either losing kids directly or kids leaving hoping for spots that didn't happen so others in those old spots. This goes for ECNL too.
11:05pm what team told you this? It's false.
From GDA FAQ Page:
http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq
Ask your DOC if GDA kids are allowed to attend College ID camps during GDA season. (they can during offseason).
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Can Academy players participate with non-Academy teams during the season?
Full-time Academy players are only permitted to participate on their Academy team, and National Team duty.
Which teams participate in 10-month programming and do not allow high school participation?
The entire Academy program does not participate in high school programming.
How does participating in the Academy affect players being seen by elite coaches?
Academy competitions provide ideal opportunities for coaches to scout players in their natural environment. Over half of all Academy matches are observed by a member of the National Team scouting network. During the 2015-16 Development Academy season, for example, over 1,849 games were scouted by our expansive network of technical staff and scouts.
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1:17 Just one correction "The National League season starts in the Spring regionally." is False.
December Showcase are also the first 4 games of the season. The remaining 3 will be played in either FL or NV. The Division champions advance to the National Championships in July and the top 3 qualify for next year's national league. The Eastern Regional league starts in the Spring with the top 4 teams advancing to the national league next season and the champion qualifying for the Region1 Championships.
I agree with your comment in regards to who the favorites are. Since Clubs accepted to the ECNL and GDA will now be sending their B teams or will be missing impact players. This is where the USYS NL dropped the ball.
8:15 is there a history of learning disability in the family?
2:13 - i'm 1:48. agreed. I would ask your club DOC. But, as some in our club have found, if the id camp does not interfere; then you can. for instance if you have a sunday game and camp is saturday, attend. if you have a sat game and sunday is camp, attend. and, college coaches are still recruiting. GDA isn't the conduit. The club is still the point of contact.
5:25 - hilarious.
3:38 you may be right for some teams, but I believe there are some teams in National League that haven't lost players to GDA or ECNL and would be very competitive or likely beat must ECNL teams. Again I expect there to be less of these types of teams than in the past in NL
i think that is the argument too. the measurement of ECNL is an unknown as well.
if the team you reference can beat ECNL if ECNL is watered down, then what is the true measurement this year of all teams. ALL of it is an unknown.
Maybe it will flush out by the end of the season when roster adds and drops occur after try-outs. This year is going to be a wide open soccer season for sure.
Agree all three platforms are watered down now although the most "best" players are likely in GDA. ECNL and NL will have strong teams and players and some weaker teams. GDA has a couple of weak teams.
Some of the top non ECNL clubs that used to do national league joined GDA. At least 5 clubs that I can spot. They cant send their GDA team.
Like Empire Disjointed, is that a top USYS non ECNL club???
I agree these teams can't send their top teams or top players.
Was Empire in the national league? or just the regional league
Nationals Union 02 Black
Nationals Union 02 Red
Michigan Hawks 02
FC United 2002 Pre-Academy
Solar 02 Naizer
Solar 02G Grado
CSA-North/Cabarrus Predator
United Futbol Academy 02 Premier
La Roca-FD 02
Legends FC 02 Academy
Beach FC G02 DPL
Albion SC G02 DPL Academy
Cats top bracket at Bethesda. Again.
Cats LOL really dude!!
If your little Susie isn’t in ECNL by now especially with the DA then give it up! Cough Kitty Cat parents!
7:57 definitively NL teams and players that have lots of strong D1 program/coach interest. ECNL and DA not the only path.
CSA lose again, this time to PA Classics, 3-0, really????
didnt fc virginia sweep their games too?
i think Penn Fusion did as well. How did the spirit teams do?
just checked the scores on us soccer website. nothing posted yet. what takes these so long to post? anyone know. does us soccer post?
Shows that NJ GDA teams are just not as good as NJ residents think they are. Go Tino!
Spirit won all their games as well. Didn't think it was going to happen?
Cedar didnt get enough top players interested.
That may/may not change in a year's time.
11:15
clever. they played each other (va and md) so a spirit team won in each age group.
So Scarpelli is not helping her CSA to win? Isn't she a national team player, doesn't that for like 3-4 players worth of talent?? Sorry for this tired old quote, but I just gotta, so what goes around, comes around....
Stop dropping names here. If she is on Nat Team or not - kudos to her if she gets same exposure but better Training. At this stage it should be about getting ready for the nat team competition and not making some dad happy with a win.
My #1 question would be whether PDA will make playoffs - it seems that on paper there are 3 teams that will end up above them in the division.
Better training, at CSA?? Hahahaha, please, bunch morons running that place, more-rons...
CSA is having tough time. NT player is out for next year with torn ACL. They have great facility with 4 lighted turf fields right off parkway. That is going to attract in future.
Really, ouch, sorry to hear that, like I said earlier....and lighted turf fields only attract moths at night.
Well If you are counting LS, future Penn State superstar as the Nt player, she has played in 7 games and scored 2 goals according to the DA site. However, I think she's a centerback at least she was on the NT so that may be good production.
Bethesda Top Flight:
CLEVELAND FUTBOL CLEVELAND FC 02 (ON)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 02 GIRLS BLACK (PAE)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
WORLD CLASS FC '02 ECNL (NYE)
BETHESDA SC ECNL THREAT 02 (MD)
CENTURY V GOLD (PAW)
CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '02F (PAE)
MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES NPL 2002 (NYE)
WC
BETHESDA
WC 2-0 F
Please do not mention the names of a child here. Who knows why she moved, could be a very simple reason like being closer to home. Tremendous talent, but unfortunate that she moves every year or two.
Massapequa versus Cleveland. guaranteed
Just posted final above for Bethesda. Great for Wildcats only team from NJ in the race with 14 flights. They had a real good 2017 that got them into this bracket.
Massapequa? You think they are better than Bethesda ECNL, are you from Massachusetts, getting going early on the recreational weed up there?
1:53...how in the world are Loudoun and Beach FC not in the top bracket at Bethesda? Wildcats and Century V both didn't make it out of their group at USYS R1 championships in July. Beach FC was the R1 finalist and Loudoun won the championship. Beach FC beat Massapequa and Loudoun beat LVU there. According to GS, it looks like Loudoun also beat Bethesda ECNL last year when they played. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
Scratch that, Beach FC did not beat Massapequa in regionals. That was wrong, but Loudon beat Massapequa at Jeff Cup
Scratch that, never heard of Beach FC, or Loudon, or a Massapequa, and I don’t see them in the GDA national standings page, so I guess they are NOT relevant, anybody want to talk politics?
Lot of scratching going on...fleas?
Wildcats are gritty winners. They are the great players from area resisting PDA and DA. Add fuel to fire NJ Wildcats Averbuch top bracket at CASL. They had decent year playing top teams in 2017 spring.
Resisting? More like they lack the technical skill to make PDA DA teams, but CSA will take anyone with a heartbeat, well maybe not anyone, let me rephrase, they will take anyone with a heartbeat and an old soccer ball, heard they were running low on both.
Here are the u16 ECNL NE teams, any predictions?
FC Stars ECNL U16
FC Boston ECNL U16
Connecticut FC ECNL U16
FSA ECNL U16
Albertson Fury ECNL U16
World Class ECNL U16
PDA ECNL U16
Match Fit Academy U16
FC Bucks ECNL U16
Continental FC U16
Maryland United ECNL U16
Bethesda SC ECNL U16
East Meadow SC ECNL U16
Maximus top 3
Maximus top 3 of what? Npl?
What is Maximus? Sounds like a condom brand, do they sell extra large??
Where are the rackets posted for CASL? Not on site?
brackets
Top of the pops! Decent parents, great coaches, splendid facilities.
Better than most ECNL teams.
What is better than most ECNL teams, your uniforms??
great comment by 3:23 we are on some sort of same page. In the end those teams plus pda shore are go to teams in shore area's for higher level?
casl brackets =
http://socer.sincsports.com/TTTeamList.aspx?tid=CASL3&tab=11&sub=0
FC Maximus is in 2nd bracket from NJ. otherwise in top two brackets only wildcats and maximus. Maximus are now stallions. Been around long time and just merged.
Maximus beat Wildcats last year
Wildcats beat Maximus in both state cups winning 1-0 in the quarters in NJYSA and 2-1 in the Finals in NJ Club Open Cup State Final. Must be talking about Maximus winning a league game.
CASL looks like a big tournament. i wonder if they grabbed some of the Disney groups that didn't want to screw up a national holiday? our Club is still going to Disney, should be fun, but i'd be lying if i said i wish we hadn't.
is there a real difference in teams between any of the elite brackets?
Disney will get plenty of good teams same as CASL always does. Some will enjoy a weekend at Disney almost a vacation. They both look fun.
Not affiliated with max or wildcats. At the end of spring they were very even (ranking), and the last game went to maximus. So, it all depends on how the coaches recruited. My assumption is that a some kids went to CSA GDA and to NYCFC GDA from each club.
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=1920131
Difference with wildcats and max is wildcats played at regionals and semi finals at nationals. likely pushing them into top bracket. Maximus is in great shape at 2nd bracket at Bethesda. believe me. Most players can only dream at U16 in being top two brackets. Their are 12 lower brackets.
Believe you? Maybe, but its really the B league now, or C league, depending on who you ask.
Guys it's U16 which is the magic year for college recruiting. If you are in top flights in the big college showcases then it doesn't matter what league you are in because you will be showcased at CASL, Jeff Cup,ets in front of ALL the college coaches and programs in Region 1.
Was there last year at CASL and at main site it was wall to wall college coaches for top flight games in U16 age bracket.
Those who are still focused on results this year moving forward at U16 are foolish.
The results mattered BEFORE U16 to get the resume up to snuff to have their team accepted and flighted in the upper flights this year.
If your team is not there this year then it's probably too late for a major college offer. Much tougher to get ANY athletic scholarship offers next year at U17/Junior in hs as top 5 power conference schools are already finished with their classes at the end of that classes sophomore year in high school. If your daughter is looking at lower D1 or D2 or D3 then it's not as important as those schools wait for what's left after major D1 programs and Ivy League schools take their pick.
1:24 hit nail on head. Wildcats have been great since U13 and earned this spot. And had one of their best years in last year or so. Also with Maximus. Maximus is very good and has been good since about U13 as well. And now Stallions Maximus. Of course you would have DA and ECNL events as well. But no doubt being in the top flights at Jeff Cup, CASL, Disney, Bethesda and PDA look real, real good on resume. And of course top coaches will look mainly at the top brackets based on invites from players in those brackets.
Yes and many of the ECNL Teams are in those same flights so that will only raise exposure of NPL teams in top flights who play them in these showcases as every college coach who comes to see ECNL players will see the players on the opposing teams play as well.
Agree about results no longer imperative(state cups, regionals, nationals, NPL finals appearances), that hay needs to be already in the barn at U16.
It's all about exposure now
1:24 I disagree - and I have some questions?
1. How does a team get into the top flight at these events?
2. CFC Delco or FC Bucks will be in the top flights at these events, if not why not?
3. So your kid is playing U16 again? Isn't the 2019/2020 age group the most important (Juniors and Sophomores?
4. Results are foolish? For GDA, ECNL, NL, Regional Leagues and NPLs results are very important.
5. Arent' these the teams in the top flights (the teams that win)?
6. Results mattered before Birth year Change but in year 2 they don't?
7. So only playing in top flights gets you a major college offer?
8. if college is the goal why do you value "power 5" more (that's how your post reads)
2:37 You agree? I disagree - College coaches care about the flights the kids they identified play in.
2:41 Why are many ECNL/NPL teams in those top flights? I argue that this is what's wrong with soccer in the USA. If what you say is true teams are in the top flights even if they are bad teams. So why isn't CFC Delco, FC Bucks, Brentwood, Quickstrike, TSF or Copa in the top flights? They are ECNL/NPL? Must be the coach connections?
2:46 How do you get this exposure? What criteria is used by these events to compare teams from all over the country if results mean nothing? Oh I forgot U13 results are used
Well I will try and answer some of your questions. First off I said results "moving forward'for NPL Teams are not very important because the resume in place are what determines the flighting for this current year and U16 is the most important year by far. for D1 recruiting. There fore my comment that the hay has to already be in the barn as far as results and resume by U16.
Also you can disagree but it's a fact that for these schools in D1 (other than lower level d1 schools) the sophomore year is when the classes are filled in and the $$$ are promised out to the recruits.
Classes are mainly completed by end of a graduating classes sophomore year for these D1 Programs. As far as criteria for flighting look at Raleigh they have a designation next to each team that is a state champ, regional champion, national finalist, etc because it raises the profile of their tournament so that answers your question about the main criteria for flighting for the NPL Teams. And yes the ECNL Teams also get a boost from being in that league.
And of course coaches care avbout the flights you are in as college coaches care very much about seeing a potential recruit play vs the top competition as the lower the flight the less they can base what they see from a player as representative of what they could do vs the top level. for high level D1 schools they need to see you play vs other D1 recruits of it's not a realistic look for them.
How many of Maximus' players left. I spot a few on DA rosters
3 left in the spring. They were very shorthanded by the end of last year.
Any designations that teams had will be re-evaluated this year. The teams got changed 2 years ago due to age group change, and then again last year due to DA. I'm sure coach's reputation and assessment means just as much as the results from previous year in these circumstances.
Coaches will come out disappointed. Even in the top 3 brackets at CASL quality of selection is suspect - there are many that belong, and many that do not...
What are these teams ?? in the top 3 brackets:
Lonestar SC U16 DA Pilot - no results most likely a B team to a GDA team
Penn Fusion SA Npl 2002 (craigie) - results against bad teams - also a B team to a very good GDA team
FC Bucks - team that has a 1-19 ECNL record and allowed 100+ goals last season
We loved playing against FC Bucks, it made us look like Barcelona, ah good times!
National league showcase this month same dates as CASL and in spring ERL same dates as Jefferson. Where will college coaches go?
To their nearest GDA game!
College coaches will be at first day of National League on Thu and Fri. Then likely at CASL rest of weekend or at least that is what they usually do. You GDA parents need to get over yourselves. Coaches find talented players and there are players at NL and CASL.
We need a system like that in place to build world class players and need to stop being politically correct. The GDA is to find NT level players - if a player doesn't make the NT then they failed at that level.
You don't play GDA to get into college - you play GDA to play for the NT.
Maybe someone should of told the Syracuse coach that, before he drove to our game, or did he get lost on the way to grandmas house?
Oh, one more thing, have been reading this blog for 3+ years, and that might just be the stupidest comment ever!
Congrats!
You can keep the world class players at world class, while the college bound kids moved on with the coaching staff to NYCFC. Thx buddy.
10:03, you are obviously with WC, and a pathetic troll. Thx buddy.
Some stats
D1 D2 D3 NAIA Total
2018 = 1015 105 39 17 1176
2019 = 577 15 3 2 597
2020 = 188 1 0 0 189
2021 = 24 0 0 0 24
18/19 were u17 last season - 1773
19/20 were u16 last season - 786
21/22 were u15 last season - 213
Stats don't support u16 being the age group to see sorry.
above are stats of what? Just go to the games on Saturday at around noon and see which age groups top flight games has the most coaches watching.
I think he is listing how many in each class are committed at time of casl but of course older classes have more commits. If you show 2019/2019 last year that includes almost all juniors and seniors. Naturally more players in junior and senior classes are committed in December than sophomores at that point. My point is U16 is getting the most looks and exposure because many juniors have already committed.
All he has to do is look on any recruiting sites stats and he will see most of top 150 juniors are already committed at this point. They are much more focused on sophomore class, (which is mainly 2002-U16) from now thru PDA Tournament.
9:15, so true dude, but you meant the GDA Playoffs in June, not the lousy PDA Tourney, so shut-up with that already!
Ciao Bella!!
Got a chance to watch the ECNL girls practice last week, ugh. It's amazing how much high school deterioates the quality of the players, good luck to all the teams headed to Phoenix and Bethesda...
9:15
Except the "top 150" juniors aren't really the top 150.
Plenty of juniors still to sign with top collegiate teams.
Was at the National League Showcase last year in NC. It was a who's who of D1 school evaluating. Thursday and Friday were busy, Saturday was less coaches and Sunday was a ghost town. Very exciting for the players to see that. They are looking forward to it again at the end of the month.
^^^ is there a list of coaches attending?
at CASL?
So, given there are 300 div 1 schools its really not that surprising that nl tourneys would be loaded with div 1 coaches. What would be interesting to know is how many are power 5 or top 50 programs. At ecnl last year there were prob 20-25 top 50 coaches over the period.
what is bizarre is that it's the same time as the college cup, still. worked when college cup was in NC, but now in FL. And college cup is immediately before DA Showcase starts. So, will coaches be in NC at CASL or NL; or in Florida for College Cup and GDA? Or will they take in a day in NC and a day or two in FL to attend both showcase events?
This is what will be interesting. How was WAGS this year? A lot of coaches or not? Used to get a bunch. All of this is new even for the coaches. Thanks US Soccer.
They will be at both.
Head Coach to FL
Assistant Coach to FL
Intern Coach to NC
7:02 is pretty close actually. Many coaches go based on invites. If they are invited by a few players on one team, or teams playing against they send someone. Most DI schools have a few coaches on staff. Be sure to invite coaches.
http://www.soccerwire.com/blog-posts/hummer-addiction-to-gotsoccer-stifling-youth-soccer-progress/
10:23, thanks for the link, and I agree GS is a flawed measure of success, but that link belongs on the u12 thread.
7:02 nice snarky GDA parent comment. No doubt the most top players are likely playing in GDA. But everyone said the same thing about ECNL last year and look at some of the team's ripping it up in the GDA this year...Nationals from Michigan a USYS team has won nearly every game. Cincinnati also from USYS is doing excellent in GDA. Bottom line is that there are excellent players and teams sprinkled across GDA, ECNL, and USYS/NL. Coaches will be at NL games and showcase tournaments for non GDA teams and not just sending "Coaching interns"
Of the NL teams updated U17 has 7% of it's players committed vs 3% for U16. The math doesn't support U16 as being the place to be (next year this age group for sure). Schools will pick from their list who they want to cover. If ECNL/GD/NL only has 2 players interested in their school and CASL has 15 then guess what they will be at CASL. Come on man, they don't just unless they have an interest and it's a two way street.
12:36 so now it’s best ECNL and best NL teams from last year that are in GDA? What are you trying to say?
12:49 PM
Interesting Map considering the ever changing landscape. College teams with bigger budgets can do more, and if that means sending a scout to a lower tournament because there may be a top player they will find a way to get there. I agree that most college women's soccer coaches are not staying at 5 star hotels or eating steak every night (unless they are looking for the NCAA police to come calling), so they want to maximize their recruiting budget by catching as many players as possible that fit their 4 year plan. If this means making a decision over a busy weekend they will most likely choose wherever the players who are on the radar and have shown interest are. I also know that for the next few weeks at least the top programs are busy with the NCAA tournaments so the coaches focus is most likely on his current team. Bethesda will probably be missing quite a few scouts as this week kicks off playoffs.
11:27 - can't just post on U12. i can't tell you the amount of teams including older that still beat their chest or advertise about their Got Soccer Rankings. We learned years ago that it's a meaningless ranking when older daughter played. But it allows teams to crank up the schedules and go to a bunch of tourneys (some good and some not so good) just to get points that have very little value in the real soccer recruiting world.
12:36 - but you answered your own question, those teams aren't in NL anymore. they moved to GDA.
i'm not trying to be snarky at all and not other poster, but it has to be very confusing even for the coaches where to go as the talent is all over the place.
1:16 I am not sure what is confusing about my post.
4:01 Agree with you that those teams moved to GDA and are not in NL anymore. Was trying to make the point that ECNL parents would come on this board last year and say that all the top players and teams were in the ECNL. As former NL talent moved into GDA and compete with former ECNL players this year they are doing quite well in many cases. I was making the same point as you that there is talent across all three leagues. Agree that it must be difficult for coaches.
6:49 are the former NL teams you are referencing that are now GDA the former NL teams entirely? Or are they combined with former ECNL kids too?
3:58 They are right those results mean a lot if you read back a few posts. From u12 to U15 they set the team up for top flights. So all those points and wins do matter.
Anonymous said...
1:24 hit nail on head. Wildcats have been great since U13 and earned this spot.
people will always change their opinion depending on which side of the fence they are on.
10.37 they are not an ECNL club. Yes there are strong clubs that are not ECNL.
The 2017 Fall MRL season suports the u17 team not being as strong as the GDA team probably has more 01s than 02s since the 02 teamis still tops
17UG Standings
Prem I Div
1. FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
2. North Shore United 2001 Blue (WI)
3. Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI)
4. Nationals Union 01 Black (MI)
16UG Standings
Prem I Div
1. Nationals Union 02 Black (MI)
2. Sporting OFC 2002 Elite (NE)
11:27 hit a nerve ?
Can’t wait to see the colleges the Kitty Cat kids will get into!
Rutgers, Seton Hall, Monmouth, and Drew.
My kid wants to be in the top bracket and they are. Best competition for sure.
A word from the wise, those rural roads leading to the fields in Maryland all have speeding cameras, and they will catch you, and find you, stay compliant people.
1:49 PM
One of the best comments in years!!! And I concur as I was a victim a few years ago.
Barney Fife (Mayberry)- digital version. Oh gosh, Andy. :)
Sorry 1"08 and 1:24 wrong again. Top Averbuch Kitty Kat already committed to Univ of Illinois(Big Ten) with nearly full athletic ride.
Wow the jealous Wildcats Hater continues to step on her dick. Oops I meant his dick.No her dick. Aw whatever.
Also the 2001 Averbuch girls who moved up after birth year s;lit all committed, 1 to Lehigh.
Wow Illinois and Lafayette
Oops Lehigh
Very good schools. Excellent academics at both.Good luck to those girls.
Wildcats has many DI commits yearly. But so does PDA, Match Fit, Copa. Wildcats is great club for certain ages and girls. It is on smaller side and certainly worth look.
No thanks.
Doubt it is a full ride. Very very few get full rides in girls soccer
My daughter is getting a full-ride for fencing, soccer is just something she does for fun!
Agree but she is o
Ne2 of the few who did.
10:12, how old are you dude, 12?
10:41 u hittin' on me?
Actually, I would like to hit you, with my foot up your arse you wanker.
Any update on kittens at Bethesda?
There are many ways to skin a cat, just ask WCFC, 4-1...
WC ecnl will be one of the top ecnl teams this year. Ecnl is a mixed bag with DA taking a lot of the star players away. I thought maximus was playing bethesda. Most ecnl teams are now b-teams so the ones that stayed intact will be much better this year. There are some stinker ecnl teams now. Especially in the 01 range with clubs that have affiliate DAs. Even match fit will be decent. I predict pda will be middle of pack ecnl this year.
816. First if you know the ECNL and DA landscape, you will know majority of top players did not go to the DA. yes a few did, but coaches are saying the DA games is a very low level, painful to watch. One club PDA does have majority of ECNL playing DA. But rest of country is not the case. ECNL at u15 and above has the better players playing.
Dude Bethesda is a weak tournament. See what happens in Sanford before you open your trap!
1019. I am not talking about bethesda. Not even there. Just pointing facts about DA and ECNL teams.
10:08 - you have no clue. MOST did go GDA; some did not; in particular in most other parts of the country. stop trying to justify your decision to not go GDA by dissing those that did.
10:42. You obviously have no clue. Go search ECNL rosters and compare to last year, oh man wait .. Hmm so many teams stayed... Obviously not looking at teams no longer in ECNL.
And the WC poster thinking a 4-1 win over the weak Kitty Cats your going to get stomped on. Enjoy Bethesda see you in Sanford.
PDA moved their best 01/02 players to DA, Penn Fusion and Breakers left ECNL completely, so what does that tell you? As far as the rest of the country, don't really know, and don't really care. Seems to me that the ECNL parents are a little nervous, and I can't blame them, so are we. Don't we all want our daughters to be seen and recruited? WC 02 ECNL is a good team, not sure if they are a great team, but only time will tell, but it was a great start, no more, no less. Pretty sure that poster was not with them, they realize that bragging on this forum is insecure, and moronic, besides it's not easy being a B team at their own complex.
Yes pda ecnl team is mainly old dragons which was their c team below storm and ajax.
WC without NT player this weekend right? Missing other players in their HS state games. Ouch Cats, what happened?
word on the back of the net forums was that some wc, stars and east meadow teams/players tried to stick it out for 1 more year of ecnl. we'll see from the results.
for comparison, right now the u14 team for ecnl pda team has 5/10 wins - and non-gda teams (match fit and east meadow) are ahead on points. most of the old - pure ecnl teams (cfc/marylan/bucks etc.) still way behind.
Its very naive to think the best players stayed in ecnl. Yes certain teams llike socal blues stayed intact like world class and match fit as well. But also please remember that da is 01/02 and they will keep the best players they can which in general seems to be about a 75-25ish split. Plus DA is like a merger between top ecnl and top national league teams. Look at the midwest you have 3 top national league teams 4 ecnl teams and a newly formed teams. The east seems to have a lot of newly formed teams.
Ecnl is going to be very mixed as well. Many of the very athletic or very skilled have moved to DA. Assume on many teams top 2-6 players have moved on to DA. Then you have the ones that stayed together the ones that lost a few and the ones that lost most. Like in philly you pf was tge only good team. Now they are gone so its just continental and bucks. What does that say for competition.
This year 03 will be a joke in ecnl (da has 20+ 03 per team) as will 01. Next year if you are not DA you will see a major drop across the board. This is the last year ecnl will be solid in my opinion.
10:30, thanks for the update WC Dad, just wait until you guys play London, I heard they are from England!
WC dad how did you do vs Lehigh Valley this morning
WC dad how did you do vs Lehigh Valley this morning
It was a tie 0-0
A tie against a NPL team that’s as weak as Copa! ROFL!
I watched 20 mins of the LVU vs WC game today. Not a parent from either team. Very even game with a slight advantage to Lehigh
Oh and Kitty Cats are doing awesome!
Wildcats lost 2 1 to Cleveland FC in top flight game on late pk. Very competitive match. Tough call.
A slight advantage to Lehigh. Now that's funny
10:34 am - wait what? are you moonlighting on another forum? thought we were your enlightened group?
The players at these tournaments play equally or supposed to. It's a showcase, get players seen. However some teams do play to win and sacrifice the players time to be seen to win at all cost. I am glad our coach told our players that all will play regardless of score, all playing equal time. Good coaches in attendance
9:42 why is that funny?
Good coaches in attendance, where? From the list Bethesda provided, it's The Who's Who from Whoville.
We had 13 at first game 11 at second game.american manhattan lehigh new hamphshire drew umbc njit gettysburg dickinson salisbury state albany stockton barton. Longwood. Desales mostly small D1 schools
7:46, I would feel a little better if you lied, not a lot, just a little, just enough to justify the gas money.
Oh my god Salisbury Steak University is there!!!! Damn it!!!!
Sure, you laugh now, but I heard SSU has a great meal-plan, and that is half the battle, and tuition.
Some different D1 coaches at our game today george mason towsend st marys and campbell
Not every player can play in big ten or acc. Its all about the right fit.
I take it US Soccer was not in attendance?
World Class goes 1-0-2 against non ECNL teams, with 1 goal in last two games, ouch...
Good job PDA DA team, a tie against PF is as good as a win these days, enjoy the moment.
I thought PF won? I must have misread.
LVU and Bethesda ecnl take top bracket. Congrats. Well deserved. McLean ECNL nice showing taking their bracket. STA and Cherry Hill not bad. Wildcats at least played great teams. But coming home 0-3 with no points. Psa finished off well. These teams are all so different from spring. At least a couple of top players per team went DA.
Albertson ECNL showed well in their bracket. They also lost players to DA
4:16 - PF vs PDA scores; U16/17 - tied. And US Soccer was at those games we heard. Good job NY & NJ teams at Bethesda
U14 DA: W 3-1
U15 DA: L 0-2
U16/17 DA: D 1-1
U18/19 DA: W 3-1
For those teams at Bethesda did the coaches get the memo about this being a showcase or were they coached to win with a short bench in close games instead of all players playing a minimum of half the game. If we are comparing apples to apples then great showing for all 5:54.
Our coach played everyone each game.
Nice 10:03 everyone played 50% of the game.
The post didn't say kids played at least 50%. It said everyone played. hopefully everyone did get ample playing time in order to be able to showcase. that's the purpose of those tourneys. scores don't matter. not all coaches or parents buy into that though.
Why would he/she post they played if it wasn't 50%? I don't think there are coaches out there that still do that, why would they? The results mean nothing and have nothing to do with future placements that's like common knowledge.
With State Cups, ECNL, NL, NPL and ERL for Region 1 teams there is enough to place teams. Every premier team falls into one of these categories am I wrong?
Some of you parents need to think of a few things:
1. this is not u12 anymore
2. reality check-very few girls will make top D1 teams
3. not all girls want or can do D1-your daughter is not the best, be real
4. get a life, stop living vicariously through your daughter
12:10 it didn't say played 50%; it said everyone played. getting in for 20 mins in second half isn't 50%. Playing 1 full game and not seeing field time the rest of the tourney isn't 50%. some teams do honor 50% playing time for all. some don't and value the points instead. these type of tourneys should have a percentage play rule.
Are you speaking from experience 1:11?? Are you frustrated about the drive, hotel fee, and crappy dinners with parents you truly dislike? Yeah, me too, but in 2 years you will look back at these days, and be saddened, not because of the events mentioned, but because the process is over.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Time to die.
12:33
1. Correct not U12 anymore - showcase events are SHOWcase events for ALL.
2. Correct so why don't we let the D1 coaches be the judge of who is or who isn't, why are you so worried?
3. Correct, study and bus rides plus training and passing exams are not for everyone
4. What exactly are you doing posting on a youthsoccer message board? Aren't you living your life through your daughter, she's playing and you are posting.
Just 2 ways to see things - go ahead you can say your way is the right way, I opened the door
Cedar Stars players are running for the exits.Players are calling other clubs to secure place on teams for spring. Another very shady coach who got fired from PDA years ago for history of inappropriate behavior with his minor players, including a suspension from coaching for drinking with players in hotel room at away tournament just hired by CSE. Guess that fits the profile of what they have on that staff on girls side.
Hahaha, guess things are a little shaky at CSA?
He should of gone to World Class, some of the older ECNL girls have already started their drinking games at tournaments.
Yes, this story is true, sad, but true....
Where do they think they are Epcot?
Good one!
I don't get the Epcot reference, but you responding to your own post doesn't help, either.
Google alex morgan epcot
you're welcome 8:23
8:32 - i'm the epcot reference poster and don't have to give myself a digital backpat. i have other interests. may want to read something other than youth soccer blogs.
Hahaha, oh, that was only a story because it was a female player, if it was a male it would not of made the news.
let's not poke that bear this early in the morning (male vs female athletes and accountability). look at how long it has taken for Elliott to be suspended.
1:27
I was relating my comments to the posters who trash tournaments if those perfect D1 schools aren't there.
Too many parents misjudge their daughters' potential.
I read and post on here bc sometimes there are mature conversations...although very little anymore.
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