Yeah, LISC is pretty bad, they don't belong in this league, but I high doubt our coaches would run-up the score the way FURY did, its just low-class...
I was watching the champions league today and the keeper punted the ball! Ridiculous. They should get us development academy coaches to take these teams to stop this from happening.
I agree I'm okay if teams score a ton Fury was making a point - if you live on the island there is only one club you should think of if DA is what you want. Nothing wrong with that, at this level if you don't have the goods you need to leave or you will be replaced once someone comes along. Very curious to see what the USSF does with some of these clubs if they can't field competitive teams -do they drop them like a bad habit? We are talking NT will be very cut throat the rest of the way. Goalies need to stop shots, defenders need to stop players from taking shots, holding mids need to control the ball and act like the general shifting the other team around and attacking players need to attack.
I always hated the your running up the score talk. No one benefits from not trying to score plus you make the other team run around even more instead of them working on their defense. The benefit is you get to see which players stop playing and which have heart.
Agreed, PF is playing tough, PDA doing just as well, and FC Virginia close. The northeast is similar, top third, middle, and bottom, except our bottom is a bit of a drop-off. We have been discussing the very real possibility of these teams looking a little different come Spring, or even next time around, come Nov. Anyways, really did not know what to expect with GDA, we (as a majority voting block) are very pleased. From the practices, the game-coaching, and the entire atmosphere. Besides, the uniforms are pretty cool, too ; )
And mostly good refs, too. Facilities are very good as well. Nice turf or good grass. No fields yet with high grass or divots like playoffs last season.
DA is great. But what is happening to my daughter at her HS this season is just a miracle. I think should we hate to not be a part of what is happening to her HS team as they make run for titles this fall. And to have get on a bus or driver every other weekend 4 hours each way is definitely not what she wants to do as a sophomore.
You couldn't just leave well-enough alone, could you?? Can't speak for others, although I probably do, am happy for your amazing high school soccer season, it's especially great if the fire department throws you a little parade, when you come back with the state title, those are great moments, enjoy! For us, it's different, and you will never know....
1:58 it's wonderful for your daughter and her team. Glad she is enjoying it and is happy with her decision.
Do you wonder though, if they would still have success if the high level players were participating as well. Guess we'll never know.
I don't hear anyone talking about hs or missing it at GDA sessions. Even a mismatched GDA game is an overall way better match than any high school game I have watched this season, including the top ranked hs teams in my area.
Oh yes, congrats on the high school stuff. Glad she is enjoying it.
Reminds me of when my daughter's team won their league title. She and her teammates had to go through multiple teams that had multiple YNT players on it. Carried some club cred as well since these were girls well known throughout the leagues. Good stuff. But not missed.
I was a Goalkeeper in High school, and I was always ready to blame my teammates, if they deserved it, so it's hard to believe it was only the GK's fault. How about giving the Alby Fury girls some credit?? As well as giving the Fury coaches some grief for running it up 😦
Soccer is a team sport if the midfielders and forwards can't keep the ball then the defenders need to stop shots the goalie is the last line of defense. So when I see a big score that tells me one team couldn't keep the ball and couldn't defend well. Every player on the team has a role - easy to blame and to be negative.
The reality, is one team wasn't as good as the other. The Fury team should never stop playing their game. Their job is to keep the ball and score it'son the other team to stop them not the coaches. This is the USSF development academy. It's their job to get rid of clubs that can't field strong teams and replace them ones that can. Maybe Long Island shouldn't have 2 DA clubs. Fury did their part -made sure the parents on the Island know that there is only one club they should consider if their kids can ball.
3:27 why should they wonder and why would they care who isn't playing? Lots of posts about HS sucking and not missing it but yet first opportunity to throw a dig one is thrown.
Probably true but if the best players moved on to the DA, why would anyone want to be on the huge roster of the PDA "B" team? Or any ECNL team for that matter. Rather my daughter play 90 minutes, get great exposure at the top showcases and go against the best then wear a powder blue shirt and win on a "B" team. In a few years, all the DAs will even out as more and more people will realize that their daughters don't need to play at PDA to get the same opportunity for their daughter at another DA.
NYCFC won all 4 games yesterday against LISC, but the game was overshadowed by terrible officials, who almost let the game get out-of-hand. It was basically a HS team vs GDA team, where soccer skills take a back-seat to surviving-the-game-intact. Multiple non-calls for rough-play, which was too bad for LISC, because the team did not back-down, not 1 step back. Perhaps they forgot that every girl on this squad played HS soccer last year, too.
Sorry, Cedar Stars NT player was in and actually scored a goal! Just in the wrong goal. Then she went down with a mystery injury and left the game as usual. She was yelling at her players, at the keeper just ugly! She's a head case good luck to Penn State managing that mess!
Ouch, 10:09 calling it as he sees it, guess there aren't too many supporters on PDA?? Right now its mostly a 2-team race in each conference. Good luck to all....
ECNL teams will get exposure for sure....but league is much diluted with most top girls moving on to DA to be replaced with NPL. So PDA has enough talent to eke out a team, but who are they playing? Keep believing what they're selling you at PDA.
Hey, he started it, no one has said anything bad about the girls or the league, we have all moved on, and I wasn't being smug, I am being truthful, but don't let that get in the way.
10:09 let me this straight you are trying to talk smack about a girl going to Penn State to play Division 1 soccer? Maybe she wanted to win vs her previous club and let her emotions get the best of her? She's a kid, adults look like fools when they let their emotions take control.
Since it's about development, they put her in a different position, maybe they want her to develop there, too. The pieces are moving for all of these games. And, they will probably play each other again in the next couple of weeks. And, you'll probably see a different line up.
Problem of being on a team with so many good players (like PDA) is you dont always have a chance to stand out. The benefit is that you practice is probably more intense than the game on the weekend.
Other than that, CSA is just building a brand on the girls side, they have deeper pockets than PDA - I dont see them stealing the thunder in the next 1-2 years - i'm sure those who joined CSA will learn from their experience and use it in a positive manner.
11:07 and 11;14 agreed but do you actually see who is out there fr Cedar stars making phone calls and poaching players? if you look at their histories they are all rejected people from other places : stole money, weird social media relations with their players, cheaters , like the worst.
I can tell you a lot of truth in last few posts about CSA. It is a mess, but I am positive it will get better with time. the fields are very nice, just need to straighten out coaching and players. But again I repeat their is too much going in right now in general for our girls. You have HS, DA, ECNL, Nat league and regional league, NPL and then of course your standard Division One EDP. I mean anyone of these are going to attract great players. So many to choose from, all over the place. That is a real, real problem. And yes many great DI committed or even DI not committed playing HS right now. That is most definitely watering down this falls DA start.
Keep talking about low level coaches , because you really think that the majority of the girls that are playing DA right now will be recruited only by top level coaches ? Games are poor technically , half of the teams are mediocre NPL level, players are bad technically. With all these leagues and status the level of the teams went down. Look at the scores , is the same as a rec program . 5-0!!! 7-0 11-0 Are you guys still going to say " we are focusing on development " seriously? Better start to look down to some lower level colleges and be a little humble as most of girls will end up there and not much money in scholarship . Better focus on academic .
It's a shame you don't take your own advice and focus on academics. Your grammar is mediocre and bad technically. Better start to look down to some lower level colleges where they teach proper punctuation. Seriously, a space before everything! I can't imagine you ever went to collage or played soccer past HS yourself. You couldn't pass English 101 with writing like that. You should focus on personal development. Spend less time on this blog and more time hitting the books. Sit down, be humble!
6:54 I think you understand his/her post. Why attack the post and not the message? Maybe English isn't a first language? Maybe it's a 3rd or 4th,regardless who cares i don't.
2:24 Isn't development not caring about the scores? Lower colleges for who the teams scoring zero or the teams scoring 7 & 11? Are you attacking a certain club or the the league. Reads like you have a beef with a club. Just calling them out we are all adults and the kids are in HS
7:25 was at a game recently. several college coaches scouting. none of them low level academics and/or soccer. they definitely liked the speed of play, footskills and soccer iq.
Oh 7:50, you must of been at my daughters game, Columbia, Fordham, FDU and Manhattan College all just happen to drive-by, and watch for 90+ minutes, did I miss you there??
9:49 - no i'm talking about MD, GT, GW, GM and a few others. Seems like the coaches are staying local to games near them while they are in season. Makes sense.
There are NO college coaches watching DA games right now they are all in season. If you say so show me some pictures of who they were and lost the schools and what games were they at! Don't be criptic, lost the location and games they were watching and full names of the schools!
Before I get called out by the grammar police the iPhone changed my words from LIST to lost FYI. No coaches are recruiting your little Susie in the fall. What club were they supposedly watching? I.D yourself and the full names of the colleges!
Of course coaches are attending these matches. Many colleges have multiple coaches you know including graduate assistants. No one is saying the head coaches were there in particular since they are in the middle of conference play now. But coaches have been going to these matches since day 1 of the DA.
Cool Aid drinkers here it comes. Chance at getting on US team less then .000000001%! Lol!! Keep thinking little Susie is going into the national team or pool!
YNTs are one thing. Full NT is another. The best way to get there has nothing to do with GDA unless you are a prodigy (then it really doesn't matter). That's like trying to be a Doc do they really care where you did your undergrad or do they care about the med School you graduated from? All D1 athletes will be on the NTs radar - the one's with the good stats and the defenders with the good rep get looked at regardless of what they have on their resume.
You obviously know nothing about the snobbery of medicine and sometimes how patients and/or hospitals pick them. Do you want the top of the class or the last in the class working on you or your family members?
exactly. the doors are opened a lot easier for someone who has the backing of pedigree for lack of a better definition (such as a degree from a top medical school or undergrad that certainly helps get into better grad schools) then those who don't. I would think that for soccer GDA is considered a pedigree.
All college coaches are in the season. If they have games every coach , including all the assistant coaches are at their game . They do not come to see your daughter game. That is a stupid statement .
You are incorrect. I saw a coach that had been recruiting my kid at a game, recently. You are one of those disbelievers. At some point, you are going to take your head of the sand and realize you are not all knowing. But then again, don't really care if you do. Btw - the world isn't flat, either.
Not hardly. You don't have to believe. I am just supporting the comments that college coaches are going to the DA games. Unlike yourself, I don't pretend to be all knowing in any of this. I can only discuss my family's personal experience. I am not the pied piper. And don't pretend to be either.
College coaches (head coach in some cases, assistant in others, are coming to DA games. Every single game we have had coaches. And I'm assuming the other games have as well. Believe it if you want, or don't. Doesn't change the facts either way.
So that means there have been zero for others, right? I was standing next to a few at one of the games in the pouring rain. And I am with a top team too.
@10:32 - GDA scores are on this site. Appears some still not listed. Does anyone know how they get loaded? Is it through US Soccer or the various clubs?
Agree with 1:04 that college coaches will attend DA games. College coaches will also attend ECNL, USYS national league, and top tourneys. Coaches go where there are talented players and right now there is a lot of talent dispersed across all of these platforms.
Looks like Washington Spirit Academy- Virginia learned something from their first encounter against PDA, nice win for them 3-0 over PDA over the weekend!!!
yup, Loudon and Beach, you know why? I was at regionals and saw them in July in VA. They kicked arse both of them and made that final as well. VA has some great teams!! Must be the weather.
Any DA fan boys have any insight on following the men's side. Is the goal to not only not win the world cup but not qualify? The ability to identify and develop soccer talent is something the Federation has not exhibited the ability to acomplish.
That is a long discussion, no time to type 3000 words, but a synopsis would be, if you don’t play like your life is on the line, you have little chance of success at that level.
Important games on Saturday for NYCFC, they will be recruiting future DA players from NYSC, should be very spirited. Look for NYSC parents to be making inquiries, before, during and after the games....
10:40 I'm still in pain. We don't deserve to go if we can't beat the last place team's second team.
10:00 I agree every game needs to be played that way.
6:33 The only world class player we have is a teenager that plays in Germany. I still believe we can be great we just don't have the coaches that grew up with the game (no disrespect to any coach). Look at the MLS teams that have foreign coaches Chicago (from last place to playoffs) Atlanta (expansion team).
My fear is that the same is going to happen with our girls as the rest of the world gets better we remain the same team (new faces) and play the same way.
The DA games are pitiful, honestly it is bad soccer. Many players on these teams were NPL players. Very low quality. I have seen numerous games, several of my daughters friends that are playing are asking the club to move back to ECNL
Best players in my daughter's club stayed with ECNL. Sour grapes are sorry. No college scouts, no showcases, bad games. No growth path in US Soccer. No leadership.
7:04 - Funny guy - Pay to Play has been the problem and it will never go away. You talk about that at your practice. I'm assuming your team's club has multiple teams? What is their tuition, $2k+ to play non-academy soccer? You keep thinking your kid is one of the best.
USSF - should have taken over the ODP program and made it Free to play. I like each state having their own team and they should have made USYS and US Club play nice.
D1 ODP A. National Championship B. 8 Regional leagues
D2 - used to scout players A 50 State leagues B Local leagues C Recreational leagues
Every player that makes ODP plays for free and the club that developed the player gets 5k per year as long as the player is on the ODP team and a higher amount if they make YNT, NT or play professional in the NWSL or UEFA or something similar to this.
There has to be one path instead of everyone looking for a buck
ECNL NL NPL 4 Regional leagues EDP and others ODP Super Y
I don't know any other sport that has such a variety of leagues from which to choose and all of them claim to be the best. I'm not saying they are; I'm just saying they claim. How do you streamline this? Clearly, it's money driving it.
Some great GDA games tomorrow, PDA Sky Blue (H) vs Penn Fusion, NYSC Sky Blue vs NYCFC (H), and FC Fury vs Boston Breakers (H), should all be great games. Good luck to all, especially my kids team!!!
Good article and sad to think what the Federation forced on the girls side. Wait until the full effect of the DA change comes to bear I fear it won't be pretty.
It is really ridiculous. I cannot wait for my daughter to be committed and done with this shite. Hopefully soon somewhere and then get direction from college coach where they want her to play.
9:54, I get it you don’t approve of the GDA, and I am completely cool about that, to each their own right? But don't bash just for the sake of self-righteousness, because no one cares what you think, not even your own kid, which is the real sad part....
Rumors are just premature facts..... Major grumblings today about the fate of the GDA as a whole. Hickey considering resigning due to weakness of national program direction.
This is a sinking ship no matter how you look at it.
Follow the leader and watch the sheep, Arena just resigned 3 hours ago and this is starting. Going to be a very interesting weekend of GDA, USMNT, USWNT, DA news.
Do you know Miriam Hickey? If not, how would you possibly know how she feels?? What does Arena have to do with success??? USSF is going through an embarrassing moment, completely on the mens side, the USWNT is as strong as ever, and please don’t mention the SheBelieves Cup as an example of their imminent implosion, its just not a fair. The Da system in this country cannot fail, because it answers to the top authority of the sport in this country, and its not US Club, not USYS, not all the colleges combined, and not even to God.
8:58am. I am glad your daughters team is playing. You do realize that the better players in the DA are playing HS like Boston Breakers. The teams like Fury, NYCFC, NYSC Sky Blue are NPL players at best. Not even top players in our region. Yes my child is on one of those teams. I am happy that she is playing, but please be realistic. My daughter and numerous of her teammates did not make a local ECNL team
Okay Henny Penny. Just looked outside, the sky isn't falling. Arena is a no brainer. Epic fail. M. Hickey just got started. GDA games only a month in. Doubtful she is even considering resigning and why should she. GDA is motoring along. It's not about the games, it's about the development; and that is happening. So haters, stop throwing your stones.
Lets be honest the women's side isn't exactly stellar lately. Forget the SBC, try the Olympics. Soccer wire has not mentioned anything about Hickey, but thats not the only source of news. Of course, I wouldn't call it BIG news if the rumor was true. Another so called soccer Yoda will emerge and promise to make it all better. Where have we heard that before!?!?!?
Breaking News via Soccer Wire: This just in...... Carli Loyd has taken over command of the GDA and Alex Morgan has entered rehab alongside Harvey Weinstein.
As far as the Olympics, if Press and A Morgan make their pk's; US probably gold medal winners again. And Solo still on the team and USWNT merrily motoring along. If you recall the prior Olympics, it wasn't a cake walk. Canada gave them a hard time and gold medal game v Japan was not easy.
Face it. Soccer around the world is improving. The girls come to US colleges from around the world. Learn the US style and coaching, take it back to their teams and they improve. How many of the US girls are going to international colleges to learn their style?
But, don't we want the soccer around the world to improve? So, kind of in a quandary. Be careful about what you wish.
2:02 PM that was funny. Sad thing is, half of that could be true. Whats even more bizarre, imagine if Alex was in for the same issue Harvey is! Not sure what man would be upset if he was harassed by Alex though. High fives to all the soccer dads!
NYSC got their GDA too late to recruit and retain their players. There is no way anyone expected them to be top 3 in their league.
They have decent coaching, they should get more competitive as the season goes along. Keep working hard! Only look forward!
Questions for next season: - if ENCL implodes - they have a good chance of recruiting well - if CSA North or SUSA get GDA - their recruiting will be made difficult
ECNL will not implode, but they did get hurt pretty bad, not many teams stayed intact, MF, WC and CFC are the few that lost a few good players to GDA, but mostly retained their best players, bets of luck to all....
ECNL is playing in some conferences like Mid Atlantic, already. How's the competition? Would be good to find out if any differences apparent. Get an idea of the temperature out there about the upcoming season.
That is true, took a look at TopDrawer rankings last night and at u16, there is not 1 ECNL team listed in top 25. Now that might be because most of the ECNL teams have not started their season, but when a shill of a platform like TopDrawer is not shilling for ECNL anymore, well, that’s not good....
My daughter is a teenager so hasn't cared what I think for quite some time I would imagine. Has the DA shown what a great job they have done on the men's side of things? Pretty resounding NO so lets model the successful women's side after the helplessness (all age groups) on the mens side.
We all know its who you know and if you can you afford the pay to play. Michael Bradley is the best the US has to offer?
Where are all the DA is a waste of time people? Our u17 boys are putting on a clinic vs a strong South America Paraguay 5-0 with at least 12 mins still to go at the FIFA U-17 World Cup.
The problem has never been with the DA or our youth systems - it's always been about the people making the selections. I guess we now know why Klinsman went with a bunch of Germans and Euros and why Gonzalez never sniffed the field.
Arena selected the team so Arena was to blame no one else and he stepped down,same goes on the Girls side we have the players we just have selectors that like a certain style of play which fits a certain type of player in their opinions.
My daughter is not going to get a call-up to the National team, at least I don’t think so, but she is a better player because of the GDA training, much better than her former ECNL coaches could ever provide.
PS. The DA will make the players we have even better.
11:41 I think the DA is doing great on the boys side, as I said in my last post it's the people selecting the team that are the issue not the players they are doing the best that they can. Of course Bradley isn't the best, Dax would have been an upgrade and he was on the roster.
Two things. This pay to play business needs to stop. If Iceland can qualify in Europe with a population of a few million on the mens side there is no reason we can't find 20 players to advance past CONCACAF teams. The team that played just wasn't as good as we thought they were plain and simple.
Why did the womens side have all this success? Because we were the only country that had women/girl teams. Now UEFA and other regions are putting money into the womens side - You can say Germany/France/England/Sweden/Japan have passed or are equal to our girls right now - if we were in a group with these countries we might not win a game on the girls side.
The Euros and South Americans have soccer in their culture and have much better coaching that we do at our Elite clubs - forget about the other clubs
12:21 she is young and getting quality training. If she plays D1 soccer and does well she will be on the radar like every D1 college player that is doing well is. D2/D3 won't do this for your kids - but they will get them a very nice degree that will take them places in the real world.
Right now our kids need top training and confidence to play their game without the fear of making a mistake - once they get to college it's game on and making mistakes keeps you on the bench.
The problem with the MNT is the MLS. US Soccer is fielding MLS players over better YNT players to prop up the league. The DA is working, but the players aren't being called up. They are instead going with big names who sell tickets.
US Soccer needs the MLS to promote soccer to the youth. Football, Baseball, and Basketball is taking the best we have.
Until leadership changes and decisions are made to put the best 11 on the field we will be stuck in this system. Money is the driving force at US soccer.
1:47 I agree - they are missing the one biggest piece. MLS players are already getting paid. They younger player's are playing to make a name for themselves. The one thing we have in common with the rest of the world when it comes to soccer and the USSF can't even see it. Arena played Gonzalez instead of Miazga who went to Chelsea you don''t think he has something to prove. Besides he's a better player anyway. It's the same thing at the youth level. There are plenty of players that have been overlooked for others that were not head and shoulders better. They just had some pull and that's what goes along way in the states.
1:51 Agree 100%. This is why I get so pissed off when people "Football, Baseball, and Basketball is taking the best we have." (no disrespect 1:47). We have over 365 million people in our country compared T&T and there 1 million. But yet they were able to field a 2nd team that beat our 1st team.
It's not the players they played to their best, it's the selectors that picked those players expecting results they couldn't deliver.
The US plays to mediocrity in soccer. We have so many good players we overlook the great players. And the selection process is based on who knows who all the way up and making "known" decisions. I have seen this with ODP and now GDA. When you allow a club coach/DOC to be involved in Regional selections you get players that these people know and have worked with, safe bets, no issues, and good enough. Well, good enough really isn't. I think a rule should be that if you are a DOC or high level coach at a club you should not be involved in the selection process of regional team. Scouts for NT players should come from outside the area and be required to attend a certain number of games and practices. They select based on what they see and talking with players (get an idea of the personality) and talk with coaches. A coach from a DA Club team should not be on staff at a regional NT team.
there is nothing more opaque than the selection for any program like id2 or ntc. even when you make that selection - noone tells you whats next - what to work on, how to get to the next level.
We had 3 different NT scouts at 3 different DA games and 2 practices so far. These were people that none of us (players/parents) have ever seen before and collectively we know most of the regional soccer faces. One may have been Diane Drake but it was a bit hard to tell. They sat at midfield between the two teams and did not have any interaction with the coaches or players. Just a ton of writing and page flipping.
DA is taking it out of the coaches hands. They also evaluate the club itself twice a year.
from this article "NYCFC's Reyna calls for more humility, less arrogance in American soccer
"The problem isn’t with U.S. Soccer, it’s with soccer in the U.S., said New York City FC sporting director Claudio Reyna, who slammed “arrogant” youth coaches and called for a cultural change."
“You go to local clubs in New York or pick anywhere in the country and you speak to a U-14 or U-15 technical director and they have all the answers, they know everything,”
“We need to focus more on progress and a lot less on politics and power and these kind of things and who is controlling what,”
7:18 and that is what is weird. why not have interaction? Why not introduce yourself to all the kids? Tell them your role? Explain their role? It's bizarre. I can't imagine when these gals were coming up through the system that they were treated this way.
No wonder US Soccer is having such trouble at the top. Arrogance completely.
I completely agree the selection process is flawed, and this last post about arrogance, it is abundant in NJ. Arrogant coaches, arrogant DOCS. Then the coaches play favorites based on money and who they can get to go to their side training, winter and summer as well. Many coaches and docs push away talented players due to their arrogance.
12:06 they won’t play against each other - but this week is the first set of crossover games for Atlantic division so you will get an indirect comparison
Thanks 5:19, we live pretty-much right in the middle of the two, and my daughter is enamored by GDA, we hope to make the jump over the winter, if they accept her. Lots to do on our end, but she wants a change from her ECNL team...
i here ya re the NTC interaction. but why not let all the kids, from the youngest to the oldest, in the GDA know what you are doing; the purpose of the league; just a hello. not during games, but at the team trainings. Even the Pope shakes hands. And pretty sure he is well above US Soccer on the food chain of things that really matter.
i find it silly that they haven't handed out DA shirts to all the girls or little shoe/ball bags. It's marketing. ECNL learned.
Non GDA parent here with a question for GDA parents. We chose not to have our daughter play DA this year but will re-evaluate each year. I have heard from a few GDA parents that their teams' players (and parents) are struggling with the big decrease in the number of games. Players are used to playing so many tournaments in the past. Especially for a number of players that might get 35 or 45 minutes in a GDA game only to then have to wait another week to maybe play 25 minutes the following game. Have heard that some players are finding GDA a little "boring" because there isn't more game time, even for those that play a lot of minutes. GDA parents, is this at all true in your situations? My daughter's non DA team still plays way too many games in a year but I wonder if GDA play too few.
Too few games?? Really?? Look, the DA is not for everyone, especially if you crave 2 games per day, it's just not for you. Personally, my daughter loves playing for her DA team, she is a starter on a winning team, life is good. Best of luck!
My daughter is playing DA and loves the format. It works for her and us. I know it is not everyone cup of tea.
11:52 To answer your question, she plays every min and likes the recovery time between games. It might be a different story if she was a sub. She was starting to get burned out because of all the ECNL games and tournaments but now with the DA she has a new attitude and excitement for playing. We grew very weary of overuse injury caused by all the league and showcase games. She doesn't mind the extra training associated with the DA or missing HS. Her words not mine!
1:41 The girls were told all about that scouts that were at the games and practices. Also the parents were told at a team meeting what was happening and what to expect. No arrogance or weirdness. My point was that the evaluation was independent of the clubs.
My daughter's non-DA NTC experience, was first invited about 3 years ago at her coach's recommendation and kept being invited back for about a year and a half, sessions about once a month. Only about a weeks notice of when training would be and she would need to be over an hour away by 4:15 on a school day (so they really do expect you to drop everything to get her there). No coach interaction or feedback. Then the invitations just stopped. Was recently invited back, this time her coach was not consulted so we assumed the scouts saw her play somewhere, who knows. The list of girls included about a third DA, third ECNL and a third other clubs. Again, no feedback, except the coach obviously knew one girl and it seemed like he was her coach. Lots of girls with good foot skills but no soccer IQ, lots of dribbling, no distributing. Next round daughter not invited back, but lots more DA girls on the list (were DA parents complaining for not being invited the first time, since DA is advertised as pipeline to National team?) With no feedback, not sure what they're looking for, you're pretty much kept in the dark.
ahhhh growing mushrooms. kept in the dark and fed a lot of sh*t. are we sure they aren't a new government branch? executive, legislative, judicial and us soccer. :)
We have our cross-over DA games this weekend, should be fun for the girls. Virginia teams are always ready to play, but so are the girls, hopefully a good time will be had by all...
The girls and parents are informed exactly who will be attending their games and practices, and what their involvement with US Soccer is, usually the week before their attendance. Last night was the first NTC for the 2003 and 04 players. I was told that there were 4 ECNL girls, 1 non ECNL player and the remainder were DA players. I believe this was only for the NY area though
6:30 am No need for the condescending attitude. Believe it or not, there are some players that have chosen not to play GDA and are plenty capable of starting on any of the local DAs. So yes, it is not for everyone (at least in year 1)
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Okay, well, I guess you get an opinion, but my view is the only one that matters, no??
Stupid prediction for this weekend:
Close games from Cedar Stars at U14 and U15, and no contest at the 2 older age groups.
CSA is doing fine.
OK. Another prediction. NYCFC will outscore their opponent by at least 17 goals.
Yeah, LISC is pretty bad, they don't belong in this league, but I high doubt our coaches would run-up the score the way FURY did, its just low-class...
I think at that level teams should score at will.
In time the team (LISC in this case) will get better - or dissolve.
I was watching the champions league today and the keeper punted the ball! Ridiculous. They should get us development academy coaches to take these teams to stop this from happening.
You know 11:11, you are one of the funniest guys I know, please don't leave your day job....
4:58
Better to play a real game than to turn to keep away. This is not rec league any more.
9:57
THIS is the poster's day job. lol
I agree I'm okay if teams score a ton
Fury was making a point - if you live on the island there is only one club you should think of if DA is what you want. Nothing wrong with that, at this level if you don't have the goods you need to leave or you will be replaced once someone comes along. Very curious to see what the USSF does with some of these clubs if they can't field competitive teams -do they drop them like a bad habit? We are talking NT will be very cut throat the rest of the way. Goalies need to stop shots, defenders need to stop players from taking shots, holding mids need to control the ball and act like the general shifting the other team around and attacking players need to attack.
I always hated the your running up the score talk. No one benefits from not trying to score plus you make the other team run around even more instead of them working on their defense. The benefit is you get to see which players stop playing and which have heart.
Lets jump ahead to Oct 14th and the match-up between PDA and PF. Any over-unders - any age group?
Thanks 2:01, will give it a try!
PDA is OVER rated
PF is UNDER whelming
Is that okay?
I got Penn Fusion winning that battle.
2:44 - glorious!
Agreed, PF is playing tough, PDA doing just as well, and FC Virginia close. The northeast is similar, top third, middle, and bottom, except our bottom is a bit of a drop-off. We have been discussing the very real possibility of these teams looking a little different come Spring, or even next time around, come Nov. Anyways, really did not know what to expect with GDA, we (as a majority voting block) are very pleased. From the practices, the game-coaching, and the entire atmosphere. Besides, the uniforms are pretty cool, too ; )
Agreed.
And mostly good refs, too.
Facilities are very good as well. Nice turf or good grass. No fields yet with high grass or divots like playoffs last season.
DA is great. But what is happening to my daughter at her HS this season is just a miracle. I think should we hate to not be a part of what is happening to her HS team as they make run for titles this fall. And to have get on a bus or driver every other weekend 4 hours each way is definitely not what she wants to do as a sophomore.
You couldn't just leave well-enough alone, could you?? Can't speak for others, although I probably do, am happy for your amazing high school soccer season, it's especially great if the fire department throws you a little parade, when you come back with the state title, those are great moments, enjoy! For us, it's different, and you will never know....
1:58 it's wonderful for your daughter and her team. Glad she is enjoying it and is happy with her decision.
Do you wonder though, if they would still have success if the high level players were participating as well. Guess we'll never know.
I don't hear anyone talking about hs or missing it at GDA sessions. Even a mismatched GDA game is an overall way better match than any high school game I have watched this season, including the top ranked hs teams in my area.
Oh yes, congrats on the high school stuff. Glad she is enjoying it.
Reminds me of when my daughter's team won their league title. She and her teammates had to go through multiple teams that had multiple YNT players on it. Carried some club cred as well since these were girls well known throughout the leagues.
Good stuff. But not missed.
Is the Team LI goalkeeper that poor?
Even in a blowout a gifted keeper doesn't allow close to 11.
I was a Goalkeeper in High school, and I was always ready to blame my teammates, if they deserved it, so it's hard to believe it was only the GK's fault. How about giving the Alby Fury girls some credit?? As well as giving the Fury coaches some grief for running it up 😦
7:00 Soccer 101.
Soccer is a team sport if the midfielders and forwards can't keep the ball then the defenders need to stop shots the goalie is the last line of defense.
So when I see a big score that tells me one team couldn't keep the ball and couldn't defend well. Every player on the team has a role - easy to blame and to be negative.
The reality, is one team wasn't as good as the other. The Fury team should never stop playing their game. Their job is to keep the ball and score it'son the other team to stop them not the coaches. This is the USSF development academy. It's their job to get rid of clubs that can't field strong teams and replace them ones that can. Maybe Long Island shouldn't have 2 DA clubs. Fury did their part -made sure the parents on the Island know that there is only one club they should consider if their kids can ball.
3:27 why should they wonder and why would they care who isn't playing? Lots of posts about HS sucking and not missing it but yet first opportunity to throw a dig one is thrown.
PDA taking Cedar Stars apart 4-0 right now. Stars yelling at each other ugly soccer. Punts and long ball for the loss.
Hey now. Communication is part of Soccer.
PDA's ECNL teams would beat Cedar Stars DA teams. I don't think anyone who knows the players can argue with that.
Probably true but if the best players moved on to the DA, why would anyone want to be on the huge roster of the PDA "B" team? Or any ECNL team for that matter. Rather my daughter play 90 minutes, get great exposure at the top showcases and go against the best then wear a powder blue shirt and win on a "B" team. In a few years, all the DAs will even out as more and more people will realize that their daughters don't need to play at PDA to get the same opportunity for their daughter at another DA.
Was CSA NT player in that game? If so, hard for me to believe they did not fight hard, if not that explains everything pretty much.
NYCFC won all 4 games yesterday against LISC, but the game was overshadowed by terrible officials, who almost let the game get out-of-hand. It was basically a HS team vs GDA team, where soccer skills take a back-seat to surviving-the-game-intact. Multiple non-calls for rough-play, which was too bad for LISC, because the team did not back-down, not 1 step back. Perhaps they forgot that every girl on this squad played HS soccer last year, too.
Please Cedar Stars poster/PDA hater. PDA ECNL teams will get more college looks and more committed kids then any CS DA teams. Keep living the dream.
Sorry, Cedar Stars NT player was in and actually scored a goal! Just in the wrong goal. Then she went down with a mystery injury and left the game as usual. She was yelling at her players, at the keeper just ugly! She's a head case good luck to Penn State managing that mess!
Ouch, 10:09 calling it as he sees it, guess there aren't too many supporters on PDA?? Right now its mostly a 2-team race in each conference. Good luck to all....
PDA
PF
10/14/ H-to-H
NYCFC
FURY
10/7/ H-to-H
ECNL teams will get exposure for sure....but league is much diluted with most top girls moving on to DA to be replaced with NPL. So PDA has enough talent to eke out a team, but who are they playing? Keep believing what they're selling you at PDA.
WC ECNL wil be very competitive, they mostly stayed intact, they only lost 3 players to GDA, which compared to others is pretty low.
Btw, an ECNL parent smugly asked me the other day if we could beat my daughters previous ECNL team, no I said, we would destroy them.
5:21 you sound pretty smug yourself. Don't live your life through your kid.
Hey, he started it, no one has said anything bad about the girls or the league, we have all moved on, and I wasn't being smug, I am being truthful, but don't let that get in the way.
10:09 let me this straight you are trying to talk smack about a girl going to Penn State to play Division 1 soccer? Maybe she wanted to win vs her previous club and let her emotions get the best of her? She's a kid, adults look like fools when they let their emotions take control.
Yes 8:06, you got it straight, its a wonderful world.
10:04 - please. Rutgers doesn't count. CSA will get attention, too.
Not sure why Cedar took the #7 out of the midfield for this game, frankly.
Since it's about development, they put her in a different position, maybe they want her to develop there, too. The pieces are moving for all of these games. And, they will probably play each other again in the next couple of weeks. And, you'll probably see a different line up.
But NOT a different result!
Problem of being on a team with so many good players (like PDA) is you dont always have a chance to stand out. The benefit is that you practice is probably more intense than the game on the weekend.
Other than that, CSA is just building a brand on the girls side, they have deeper pockets than PDA - I dont see them stealing the thunder in the next 1-2 years - i'm sure those who joined CSA will learn from their experience and use it in a positive manner.
I think Cedar did a lousy recruiting job - if they recruited at all.
11:07 OMG. Their front office has no idea how to fix their site/email and promote anything.
11:07 and 11;14 agreed but do you actually see who is out there fr Cedar stars making phone calls and poaching players? if you look at their histories they are all rejected people from other places : stole money, weird social media relations with their players, cheaters , like the worst.
Cedar Stars tried poaching PDA girls by offering them FREE tuition and goodies! Want to talk about desperate!
I can tell you a lot of truth in last few posts about CSA. It is a mess, but I am positive it will get better with time. the fields are very nice, just need to straighten out coaching and players. But again I repeat their is too much going in right now in general for our girls. You have HS, DA, ECNL, Nat league and regional league, NPL and then of course your standard Division One EDP. I mean anyone of these are going to attract great players. So many to choose from, all over the place. That is a real, real problem. And yes many great DI committed or even DI not committed playing HS right now. That is most definitely watering down this falls DA start.
Not even regulation size soccer fields at Cedar......
I heard that they practice on the shoulder of the NJ Turnpike, near exit 8, no?
They actually train on the Parkway, right on it, they use the lines on the parkway to delineate fields.
Well 10:06, that must be why they are struggling right now, I would talk to the coaches, or leave come winter-break, you have options.
More sour grapes
Last game is on Vimeo- not the cube
PDA too fast, CSA had some girls who were either injured, or should not be playing at this level.
Bethesda acceptance out. 7 Jersey teams. Two ECNL teams only. Comments. Suggestions.
You would think low college coach turn out for Bethesda at U16. No ECNL or DA attending. Disney and CASL will be good ones.
Keep talking about low level coaches , because you really think that the majority of the girls that are playing DA right now will be recruited only by top level coaches ? Games are poor technically , half of the teams are mediocre NPL level, players are bad technically.
With all these leagues and status the level of the teams went down. Look at the scores , is the same as a rec program . 5-0!!! 7-0 11-0
Are you guys still going to say " we are focusing on development " seriously?
Better start to look down to some lower level colleges and be a little humble as most of girls will end up there and not much money in scholarship . Better focus on academic .
17 minutes ?? Lol
2:42,
It's a shame you don't take your own advice and focus on academics. Your grammar is mediocre and bad technically. Better start to look down to some lower level colleges where they teach proper punctuation. Seriously, a space before everything! I can't imagine you ever went to collage or played soccer past HS yourself. You couldn't pass English 101 with writing like that. You should focus on personal development. Spend less time on this blog and more time hitting the books. Sit down, be humble!
7:38 how does that compare to last year?
6:54 I think you understand his/her post. Why attack the post and not the message? Maybe English isn't a first language? Maybe it's a 3rd or 4th,regardless who cares i don't.
2:24 Isn't development not caring about the scores? Lower colleges for who the teams scoring zero or the teams scoring 7 & 11? Are you attacking a certain club or the the league. Reads like you have a beef with a club. Just calling them out we are all adults and the kids are in HS
7:25 was at a game recently. several college coaches scouting. none of them low level academics and/or soccer. they definitely liked the speed of play, footskills and soccer iq.
Oh 7:50, you must of been at my daughters game, Columbia, Fordham, FDU and Manhattan College all just happen to drive-by, and watch for 90+ minutes, did I miss you there??
6:54 is College not Collage. Guess you were in the same low level school.
Weimar colleges were not low class, buddy.
9:49 - no i'm talking about MD, GT, GW, GM and a few others. Seems like the coaches are staying local to games near them while they are in season. Makes sense.
Its all good 12:23, build it, and they will come....
There are NO college coaches watching DA games right now they are all in season. If you say so show me some pictures of who they were and lost the schools and what games were they at! Don't be criptic, lost the location and games they were watching and full names of the schools!
Before I get called out by the grammar police the iPhone changed my words from LIST to lost FYI. No coaches are recruiting your little Susie in the fall. What club were they supposedly watching? I.D yourself and the full names of the colleges!
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
FORDHAM UNIVERSITY
FAIRLEIGH DICKINSON UNIVERSITY
MANHATTAN COLLEGE
NYCFC VS. BOSTON BREAKERS, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 3PM EST.
YOU WANT ME TO POST THEIR PROFILE PHOTOS???
Idiot Columbia had a 4 PM game! No way was any coach from Columbia missing their game to watch your little Susie!
Manhattan played at 7 still doubt they were there!
Ok I retract the statement. They had games this past Saturday not the 16th. Good luck with little Susie! You weren't from World Classless were you?
Of course coaches are attending these matches. Many colleges have multiple coaches you know including graduate assistants. No one is saying the head coaches were there in particular since they are in the middle of conference play now. But coaches have been going to these matches since day 1 of the DA.
Retract this, you toad....
why? truth hurts, tadpole?
Confucius say, man writing checks for number one daughters team, might be in need of a loan....soon.
US Soccer scout at DA games and practices too. Some kids were pulled for ID session already.
Cool Aid drinkers here it comes. Chance at getting on US team less then .000000001%! Lol!! Keep thinking little Susie is going into the national team or pool!
Just being invited to id2 from us club, or NTC from GDA is pretty good stuff on resume for college.
YNTs are one thing. Full NT is another. The best way to get there has nothing to do with GDA unless you are a prodigy (then it really doesn't matter).
That's like trying to be a Doc do they really care where you did your undergrad or do they care about the med School you graduated from? All D1 athletes will be on the NTs radar - the one's with the good stats and the defenders with the good rep get looked at regardless of what they have on their resume.
just my 2 cents.
You obviously know nothing about the snobbery of medicine and sometimes how patients and/or hospitals pick them. Do you want the top of the class or the last in the class working on you or your family members?
exactly. the doors are opened a lot easier for someone who has the backing of pedigree for lack of a better definition (such as a degree from a top medical school or undergrad that certainly helps get into better grad schools) then those who don't. I would think that for soccer GDA is considered a pedigree.
9:42 or realizing money spent wisely.
Preaching to the choir dude, I write those checks too, its all good in Orangeburg...
All college coaches are in the season. If they have games every coach , including all the assistant coaches are at their game . They do not come to see your daughter game. That is a stupid statement .
You are incorrect. I saw a coach that had been recruiting my kid at a game, recently. You are one of those disbelievers. At some point, you are going to take your head of the sand and realize you are not all knowing. But then again, don't really care if you do. Btw - the world isn't flat, either.
It must be Mickey Mouse University then.
Not hardly. You don't have to believe. I am just supporting the comments that college coaches are going to the DA games. Unlike yourself, I don't pretend to be all knowing in any of this. I can only discuss my family's personal experience.
I am not the pied piper. And don't pretend to be either.
Some people are a waste of key-strokes, they must of graduated from Troll U.
Or Mickey Mouse University; agreed.
College coaches (head coach in some cases, assistant in others, are coming to DA games. Every single game we have had coaches. And I'm assuming the other games have as well. Believe it if you want, or don't. Doesn't change the facts either way.
2nd round of GDA selections coming soon. What will be the new GDA clubs?
There have been zero college coaches at the games I have attended and it was top team games so.
So that means there have been zero for others, right? I was standing next to a few at one of the games in the pouring rain. And I am with a top team too.
And saw others at other games as well. And coach I know from interest gave me a nod when we passed on the sidelines.
No scores from today's games?
College coaches are most definitely attending DA games. My daughters coach has already received calls with interest.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/regevent/index.php?containerId=MzgzNDM0MA%3D%3D&partialGames=0#filter-table
@10:32 - GDA scores are on this site. Appears some still not listed. Does anyone know how they get loaded? Is it through US Soccer or the various clubs?
Agree with 1:04 that college coaches will attend DA games. College coaches will also attend ECNL, USYS national league, and top tourneys. Coaches go where there are talented players and right now there is a lot of talent dispersed across all of these platforms.
Agreed. Coaches at WAGS despite being in season.
Whoever predicted Loudoun and Beach at WAGS was on the money
Looks like Washington Spirit Academy- Virginia learned something from their first encounter against PDA, nice win for them 3-0 over PDA over the weekend!!!
yup, Loudon and Beach, you know why? I was at regionals and saw them in July in VA. They kicked arse both of them and made that final as well. VA has some great teams!! Must be the weather.
VA teams getting some love in these blogs. I have an older gal, too.
Any DA fan boys have any insight on following the men's side. Is the goal to not only not win the world cup but not qualify? The ability to identify and develop soccer talent is something the Federation has not exhibited the ability to acomplish.
That is a long discussion, no time to type 3000 words, but a synopsis would be, if you don’t play like your life is on the line, you have little chance of success at that level.
Important games on Saturday for NYCFC, they will be recruiting future DA players from NYSC, should be very spirited. Look for NYSC parents to be making inquiries, before, during and after the games....
utter disgrace to not qualify for wc
arena should be a fired
10:40 I'm still in pain. We don't deserve to go if we can't beat the last place team's second team.
10:00 I agree every game needs to be played that way.
6:33 The only world class player we have is a teenager that plays in Germany. I still believe we can be great we just don't have the coaches that grew up with the game (no disrespect to any coach). Look at the MLS teams that have foreign coaches Chicago (from last place to playoffs) Atlanta (expansion team).
My fear is that the same is going to happen with our girls as the rest of the world gets better we remain the same team (new faces) and play the same way.
agreed. who are the top NWSL players? internationals. marta and kerr
agreed and steph catley, kennedy, sinclair and daley too.
When connections and $ mean more than talent the results are pretty much what you see with US soccer.
Reality is the best players aren't being taken for many many reason and don't see it changing.
6:40 I agree - proof is most of the clubs that that expanded roster size to collect more money were rewarded with GDA.
The DA games are pitiful, honestly it is bad soccer. Many players on these teams were NPL players. Very low quality. I have seen numerous games, several of my daughters friends that are playing are asking the club to move back to ECNL
Best players in my daughter's club stayed with ECNL. Sour grapes are sorry. No college scouts, no showcases, bad games. No growth path in US Soccer. No leadership.
6:40, 9:01,10:05, 11:09, thanks for your input, we will discuss tonight at practice, and then disband the league.
Good article....
https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/10/11/us-soccer-sunil-gulati-president-usmnt-world-cup-qualifying-failure
7:04 - Funny guy - Pay to Play has been the problem and it will never go away. You talk about that at your practice. I'm assuming your team's club has multiple teams? What is their tuition, $2k+ to play non-academy soccer?
You keep thinking your kid is one of the best.
USSF - should have taken over the ODP program and made it Free to play. I like each state having their own team and they should have made USYS and US Club play nice.
D1 ODP
A. National Championship
B. 8 Regional leagues
D2 - used to scout players
A 50 State leagues
B Local leagues
C Recreational leagues
Every player that makes ODP plays for free and the club that developed the player gets 5k per year as long as the player is on the ODP team and a higher amount if they make YNT, NT or play professional in the NWSL or UEFA or something similar to this.
There has to be one path instead of everyone looking for a buck
ECNL
NL
NPL
4 Regional leagues
EDP and others
ODP
Super Y
Just my 2 cents (previous posts 9:01 and 11:30)
8:33, I have a great book to recommend, its called The Idealist, US Soccer vs. the America People.
Oh, and another one: Pitch Archeology: The Search for ODP in the Modern Era...out of print....
This the problem in itself......
DA
ECNL
NL
NPL
4 Regional leagues
EDP and others
ODP
Super Y
High School
I don't know any other sport that has such a variety of leagues from which to choose and all of them claim to be the best. I'm not saying they are; I'm just saying they claim.
How do you streamline this? Clearly, it's money driving it.
I don’t think it can be streamlined.
Some great GDA games tomorrow, PDA Sky Blue (H) vs Penn Fusion, NYSC Sky Blue vs NYCFC (H), and FC Fury vs Boston Breakers (H), should all be great games. Good luck to all, especially my kids team!!!
http://www.yanksarecoming.com/following-qualifying-failure-us-soccer-requires-change-from-gulati-and-beyond
Good article and sad to think what the Federation forced on the girls side. Wait until the full effect of the DA change comes to bear I fear it won't be pretty.
It is really ridiculous. I cannot wait for my daughter to be committed and done with this shite. Hopefully soon somewhere and then get direction from college coach where they want her to play.
9:54, I get it you don’t approve of the GDA, and I am completely cool about that, to each their own right?
But don't bash just for the sake of self-righteousness, because no one cares what you think, not even your own kid, which is the real sad part....
Rumors are just premature facts..... Major grumblings today about the fate of the GDA as a whole. Hickey considering resigning due to weakness of national program direction.
This is a sinking ship no matter how you look at it.
Follow the leader and watch the sheep, Arena just resigned 3 hours ago and this is starting. Going to be a very interesting weekend of GDA, USMNT, USWNT, DA news.
Do you know Miriam Hickey? If not, how would you possibly know how she feels?? What does Arena have to do with success??? USSF is going through an embarrassing moment, completely on the mens side, the USWNT is as strong as ever, and please don’t mention the SheBelieves Cup as an example of their imminent implosion, its just not a fair. The Da system in this country cannot fail, because it answers to the top authority of the sport in this country, and its not US Club, not USYS, not all the colleges combined, and not even to God.
8:58am. I am glad your daughters team is playing. You do realize that the better players in the DA are playing HS like Boston Breakers. The teams like Fury, NYCFC, NYSC Sky Blue are NPL players at best. Not even top players in our region. Yes my child is on one of those teams. I am happy that she is playing, but please be realistic. My daughter and numerous of her teammates did not make a local ECNL team
Okay Henny Penny. Just looked outside, the sky isn't falling. Arena is a no brainer. Epic fail. M. Hickey just got started. GDA games only a month in. Doubtful she is even considering resigning and why should she.
GDA is motoring along. It's not about the games, it's about the development; and that is happening. So haters, stop throwing your stones.
Lets be honest the women's side isn't exactly stellar lately. Forget the SBC, try the Olympics. Soccer wire has not mentioned anything about Hickey, but thats not the only source of news. Of course, I wouldn't call it BIG news if the rumor was true. Another so called soccer Yoda will emerge and promise to make it all better. Where have we heard that before!?!?!?
1:49 - troll university i presume?
Soccerwire??? Really? that is where you get your soccer news? Haha. Says it all. Have found many errors in their reportings. Good source; not great.
Breaking News via Soccer Wire: This just in...... Carli Loyd has taken over command of the GDA and Alex Morgan has entered rehab alongside Harvey Weinstein.
As far as the Olympics, if Press and A Morgan make their pk's; US probably gold medal winners again. And Solo still on the team and USWNT merrily motoring along. If you recall the prior Olympics, it wasn't a cake walk. Canada gave them a hard time and gold medal game v Japan was not easy.
Face it. Soccer around the world is improving. The girls come to US colleges from around the world. Learn the US style and coaching, take it back to their teams and they improve. How many of the US girls are going to international colleges to learn their style?
But, don't we want the soccer around the world to improve? So, kind of in a quandary. Be careful about what you wish.
2:02 - exactly. :)
1:49, stop smoking pot, or share with the others....
2:02 PM that was funny. Sad thing is, half of that could be true. Whats even more bizarre, imagine if Alex was in for the same issue Harvey is! Not sure what man would be upset if he was harassed by Alex though. High fives to all the soccer dads!
Good luck to all the NYCFC teams today!
Oh, and good luck to PDA too, and although I hate them, still want them to beat PF....
PF too strong for PDA.
Score of the PDA vs PF game??
PDA lost
3-1 PF win
NYCFC sweep all 4 GDA games against NYSC, was a little sad to watch....
NYSC got their GDA too late to recruit and retain their players. There is no way anyone expected them to be top 3 in their league.
They have decent coaching, they should get more competitive as the season goes along. Keep working hard! Only look forward!
Questions for next season:
- if ENCL implodes - they have a good chance of recruiting well
- if CSA North or SUSA get GDA - their recruiting will be made difficult
ECNL will not implode, but they did get hurt pretty bad, not many teams stayed intact, MF, WC and CFC are the few that lost a few good players to GDA, but mostly retained their best players, bets of luck to all....
ECNL is playing in some conferences like Mid Atlantic, already. How's the competition? Would be good to find out if any differences apparent. Get an idea of the temperature out there about the upcoming season.
9:32 based on ysr scores - teams in ecnl are regressing in their rankings
That is true, took a look at TopDrawer rankings last night and at u16, there is not 1 ECNL team listed in top 25. Now that might be because most of the ECNL teams have not started their season, but when a shill of a platform like TopDrawer is not shilling for ECNL anymore, well, that’s not good....
ECNL is a sinking ship. Get out now before it's too late!!!
10/13 @ 11:33 am-
My daughter is a teenager so hasn't cared what I think for quite some time I would imagine. Has the DA shown what a great job they have done on the men's side of things? Pretty resounding NO so lets model the successful women's side after the helplessness (all age groups) on the mens side.
We all know its who you know and if you can you afford the pay to play. Michael Bradley is the best the US has to offer?
Where are all the DA is a waste of time people? Our u17 boys are putting on a clinic vs a strong South America Paraguay 5-0 with at least 12 mins still to go at the FIFA U-17 World Cup.
The problem has never been with the DA or our youth systems - it's always been about the people making the selections. I guess we now know why Klinsman went with a bunch of Germans and Euros and why Gonzalez never sniffed the field.
Arena selected the team so Arena was to blame no one else and he stepped down,same goes on the Girls side we have the players we just have selectors that like a certain style of play which fits a certain type of player in their opinions.
My daughter is not going to get a call-up to the National team, at least I don’t think so, but she is a better player because of the GDA training, much better than her former ECNL coaches could ever provide.
PS. The DA will make the players we have even better.
11:41 I think the DA is doing great on the boys side, as I said in my last post it's the people selecting the team that are the issue not the players they are doing the best that they can. Of course Bradley isn't the best, Dax would have been an upgrade and he was on the roster.
Two things. This pay to play business needs to stop. If Iceland can qualify in Europe with a population of a few million on the mens side there is no reason we can't find 20 players to advance past CONCACAF teams. The team that played just wasn't as good as we thought they were plain and simple.
Why did the womens side have all this success? Because we were the only country that had women/girl teams. Now UEFA and other regions are putting money into the womens side - You can say Germany/France/England/Sweden/Japan have passed or are equal to our girls right now - if we were in a group with these countries we might not win a game on the girls side.
The Euros and South Americans have soccer in their culture and have much better coaching that we do at our Elite clubs - forget about the other clubs
12:21 she is young and getting quality training. If she plays D1 soccer and does well she will be on the radar like every D1 college player that is doing well is. D2/D3 won't do this for your kids - but they will get them a very nice degree that will take them places in the real world.
Right now our kids need top training and confidence to play their game without the fear of making a mistake - once they get to college it's game on and making mistakes keeps you on the bench.
12:30, isn’t that what I just said??
The problem with the MNT is the MLS. US Soccer is fielding MLS players over better YNT players to prop up the league. The DA is working, but the players aren't being called up. They are instead going with big names who sell tickets.
US Soccer needs the MLS to promote soccer to the youth. Football, Baseball, and Basketball is taking the best we have.
Until leadership changes and decisions are made to put the best 11 on the field we will be stuck in this system. Money is the driving force at US soccer.
I agree!
T&T had their younger developmental players on the pitch when they bested the States.
USA U20's men could beat MNT Senior team!!!
12:21 and???
1:47 I agree - they are missing the one biggest piece. MLS players are already getting paid. They younger player's are playing to make a name for themselves. The one thing we have in common with the rest of the world when it comes to soccer and the USSF can't even see it. Arena played Gonzalez instead of Miazga who went to Chelsea you don''t think he has something to prove. Besides he's a better player anyway. It's the same thing at the youth level. There are plenty of players that have been overlooked for others that were not head and shoulders better. They just had some pull and that's what goes along way in the states.
1:51 Agree 100%. This is why I get so pissed off when people "Football, Baseball, and Basketball is taking the best we have." (no disrespect 1:47).
We have over 365 million people in our country compared T&T and there 1 million. But yet they were able to field a 2nd team that beat our 1st team.
It's not the players they played to their best, it's the selectors that picked those players expecting results they couldn't deliver.
5:07,
The US plays to mediocrity in soccer. We have so many good players we overlook the great players. And the selection process is based on who knows who all the way up and making "known" decisions. I have seen this with ODP and now GDA. When you allow a club coach/DOC to be involved in Regional selections you get players that these people know and have worked with, safe bets, no issues, and good enough. Well, good enough really isn't. I think a rule should be that if you are a DOC or high level coach at a club you should not be involved in the selection process of regional team. Scouts for NT players should come from outside the area and be required to attend a certain number of games and practices. They select based on what they see and talking with players (get an idea of the personality) and talk with coaches. A coach from a DA Club team should not be on staff at a regional NT team.
@ 8:32 nailed it. Plenty of talent but the selection process is horribly biased.
there is nothing more opaque than the selection for any program like id2 or ntc. even when you make that selection - noone tells you whats next - what to work on, how to get to the next level.
We had 3 different NT scouts at 3 different DA games and 2 practices so far. These were people that none of us (players/parents) have ever seen before and collectively we know most of the regional soccer faces. One may have been Diane Drake but it was a bit hard to tell. They sat at midfield between the two teams and did not have any interaction with the coaches or players. Just a ton of writing and page flipping.
DA is taking it out of the coaches hands. They also evaluate the club itself twice a year.
Is NYCFC better than PDA-SB??
from this article "NYCFC's Reyna calls for more humility, less arrogance in American soccer
"The problem isn’t with U.S. Soccer, it’s with soccer in the U.S., said New York City FC sporting director Claudio Reyna, who slammed “arrogant” youth coaches and called for a cultural change."
“You go to local clubs in New York or pick anywhere in the country and you speak to a U-14 or U-15 technical director and they have all the answers, they know everything,”
“We need to focus more on progress and a lot less on politics and power and these kind of things and who is controlling what,”
7:18 - that's still subjective as someone said. even the evaluators have club connections. how do you overcome the politics?
7:18 and that is what is weird. why not have interaction? Why not introduce yourself to all the kids? Tell them your role? Explain their role? It's bizarre. I can't imagine when these gals were coming up through the system that they were treated this way.
No wonder US Soccer is having such trouble at the top. Arrogance completely.
I completely agree the selection process is flawed, and this last post about arrogance, it is abundant in NJ. Arrogant coaches, arrogant DOCS. Then the coaches play favorites based on money and who they can get to go to their side training, winter and summer as well. Many coaches and docs push away talented players due to their arrogance.
12:06 they won’t play against each other - but this week is the first set of crossover games for Atlantic division so you will get an indirect comparison
Thanks 5:19, we live pretty-much right in the middle of the two, and my daughter is enamored by GDA, we hope to make the jump over the winter, if they accept her. Lots to do on our end, but she wants a change from her ECNL team...
7:18 Yea. Asked my kid about any interaction from the observers - and the answer is not during the GDA games, but yes during NTC training.
i here ya re the NTC interaction. but why not let all the kids, from the youngest to the oldest, in the GDA know what you are doing; the purpose of the league; just a hello. not during games, but at the team trainings. Even the Pope shakes hands. And pretty sure he is well above US Soccer on the food chain of things that really matter.
i find it silly that they haven't handed out DA shirts to all the girls or little shoe/ball bags. It's marketing. ECNL learned.
Non GDA parent here with a question for GDA parents. We chose not to have our daughter play DA this year but will re-evaluate each year. I have heard from a few GDA parents that their teams' players (and parents) are struggling with the big decrease in the number of games. Players are used to playing so many tournaments in the past. Especially for a number of players that might get 35 or 45 minutes in a GDA game only to then have to wait another week to maybe play 25 minutes the following game. Have heard that some players are finding GDA a little "boring" because there isn't more game time, even for those that play a lot of minutes. GDA parents, is this at all true in your situations? My daughter's non DA team still plays way too many games in a year but I wonder if GDA play too few.
Too few games?? Really?? Look, the DA is not for everyone, especially if you crave 2 games per day, it's just not for you. Personally, my daughter loves playing for her DA team, she is a starter on a winning team, life is good. Best of luck!
My daughter is playing DA and loves the format. It works for her and us. I know it is not everyone cup of tea.
11:52 To answer your question, she plays every min and likes the recovery time between games. It might be a different story if she was a sub. She was starting to get burned out because of all the ECNL games and tournaments but now with the DA she has a new attitude and excitement for playing. We grew very weary of overuse injury caused by all the league and showcase games. She doesn't mind the extra training associated with the DA or missing HS. Her words not mine!
1:41 The girls were told all about that scouts that were at the games and practices. Also the parents were told at a team meeting what was happening and what to expect. No arrogance or weirdness. My point was that the evaluation was independent of the clubs.
I know. That, That....
My daughter's non-DA NTC experience, was first invited about 3 years ago at her coach's recommendation and kept being invited back for about a year and a half, sessions about once a month. Only about a weeks notice of when training would be and she would need to be over an hour away by 4:15 on a school day (so they really do expect you to drop everything to get her there). No coach interaction or feedback. Then the invitations just stopped. Was recently invited back, this time her coach was not consulted so we assumed the scouts saw her play somewhere, who knows. The list of girls included about a third DA, third ECNL and a third other clubs. Again, no feedback, except the coach obviously knew one girl and it seemed like he was her coach. Lots of girls with good foot skills but no soccer IQ, lots of dribbling, no distributing. Next round daughter not invited back, but lots more DA girls on the list (were DA parents complaining for not being invited the first time, since DA is advertised as pipeline to National team?) With no feedback, not sure what they're looking for, you're pretty much kept in the dark.
ahhhh growing mushrooms. kept in the dark and fed a lot of sh*t. are we sure they aren't a new government branch? executive, legislative, judicial and us soccer. :)
We have our cross-over DA games this weekend, should be fun for the girls. Virginia teams are always ready to play, but so are the girls, hopefully a good time will be had by all...
The girls and parents are informed exactly who will be attending their games and practices, and what their involvement with US Soccer is, usually the week before their attendance. Last night was the first NTC for the 2003 and 04 players. I was told that there were 4 ECNL girls, 1 non ECNL player and the remainder were DA players. I believe this was only for the NY area though
Is there an unwritten rule to weed out non GDA kids from NTC?
7:04 am Thanks for the thoughtful answer
6:30 am No need for the condescending attitude. Believe it or not, there are some players that have chosen not to play GDA and are plenty capable of starting on any of the local DAs. So yes, it is not for everyone (at least in year 1)
http://www.soccerwire.com/notes/mclean-youth-soccer-announces-2016-2017-travel-coaching-staff/
4:03 yes it seems like reps from US Soccer are making it more difficult to get into NTC if the player is not at a DA
Are the NTC lists public? How do you know which leagues are invited?
When you receive the invitation the list is attached so it's not public, only those invited see it.
Anyboby want to share the link, would like to see the format.
Thanks?
Schedule:
http://www.ussoccerda.com/calendar-training-centers
Info:
https://www.ussoccer.com/us-under14-national-development-program/training-centers
I've heard its impossible to get into and stay in. Kids get invited for a single even and then never again.
Isn't this 2002 board and this training center process is no longer in place for U16?
Brackets for CASL out yet?
CASL has been cancelled, too many hurricanes, wildfires and moron Presidents.
CASL is on but I've heard of a boycott from NCAA to protest.
Didn't realize Obama was still in the pic.
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