10:30 Currently NJYS ODP has what 25 players? The rebrand to CSA and PDA will now create an opportunity for 50 players instead of 25. SJEB/Rush, PDA/Wildcats will make a play for the GDA they would be crazy if they didn't. This would create an opportunity for 100 players in NJ instead of the 25 that ODP provides or the 50 that the ECNL provided. So what does STA, matchFit and Copa do? Continue down their ECNL/NPL path or join/create a super club?
GDA = Is players first in theory Everyone else is club or team 1st.
Heard that all the NYCFC girls will be brought on-field before a game, and introduced to the crowd. Just think about all the conversations on the car-rides home for the any girls who were on-the-fence. #brilliantmarketing
If there are 4 DA in NJ, and it is PDA, CSA, PSA and NJ Rush that would cover all of NJ in many areas. So that could change it real quick. Then everything else would be 2nd tier for sure
The GDA is the top of the Pyramid no doubt and with 4 clubs in NJ - there is also no doubt all the top players will be playing GDA and because each of the super clubs will have various ECNL/USYS/NPL teams to develop other players that may or may not give them an opportunity to play GDA. If PDA thinks the kid is 2nd level, they can tryout at one of the other 3 for a shot one way or another they will have their answer as will the USSF in NJ few if any players will fall through the cracks at the younger ages is where it really matters.
And when you think about it, it becomes reserve teams. Just like professional soccer. You have reserves, that can come up, be relegated as rules allow.
There are other states that only have 2 or less as well and are bigger as far as square footage/population. Some have zero. VA only has 3; MD has 1; PA has 2 (0 in Western PA); GA has 2; NC has 2; etc.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-club-directory Keep banging your drum, but there are other areas that would be serviced by another DA or two as well. I think they are intentionally keeping the numbers down for now.
Boy Region DA CLUB DIRECTORY The Girls will look something like that Super Clubs and Rock Solid individual teams at the younger ages 35 Boy DA Clubs from Region1 compared to 16 on the girls side. Plenty of room to grow and add.
PS. A Development Academy can never be "diluted". It's about development. and more opportunities.
The part time clubs only younger ages with strong teams will move up to the National League after their better players move to a Full time DA club to continue giving the team a showcase since the ECNL is all about the club.
3:40 I agree - we will see some expansion next year.
On the boys' side USYS/NL is still a hot ticket. I would not compare girls and boys because girls' system has taken the pyramid route and boys' system has not. Boys - more like an hourglass as far as team participation (DA top; ECNL/NPL middle; USYS and similar teams bottom) instead of a pyramid.
3:47 i disagree. Any team can be diluted if the best players are not on it. That is what happened with ECNL and USYS in some areas. Some teams had too much gap between levels of players. Top development only works if top level skill and soccer iq are selected.
Here is what a big attraction to DA should be. First it should be little cost or free, why pay even $2,000 per year, if your kid can play for free. I don't care how much money you make. Every dollar in your pocket is better than someone else's. Second it should be at the least a team that is solid from 1-8 lets say? Always weakest link on all good teams, professional or not. Third it should get you the best competition and college coaches. So maybe 4 points then.
Realistically, how can it be free. Someone has to pay the trainers salary and overhead of running a club.
I am willing to pay a small amount now and pay much less for college later. For me it is an investment in my child's future. It is a risky investment but most high yield investments are.
It would not be entirely fair to make the lower level teams in the club carry the load of all the DA teams above them. USSF already makes it easy because they cover most of the DA costs and don't charge for their events.
The real question is why is there a drastic cost difference between the different DA clubs?
Go to the washingtonspirit.com and read through the GDA academy fees and FAQ.
Read what the fees include and what they exclude. Hard to compare to other programs which will exclude lots of things that are part of those fees. - uniform - supplemental training - medical screening - all coach/trainer travel - season tickets
washingtonspirit.com $5,000 per year for them. But you do get uniforms, 4x week training, goal keeper trainer on staff. I am positive now that DA from club to club is different pricing. They state it should be as close to free as feasible.
Im wondering how are the typical fees in the D.C. Area to start off that the club had to set up this FAQ. What about scholarships? I've heard GDA offers tuition as well as travel scholarships for those in need.
I hear that on here, a lot. Those in need of assistance, and in relation to this thread, please stop. There is zero-way that someone of modest means can participate in this madness. In a perfect world, in a galaxy far away, that could be the case.
5:53 i took the posting as sarcastic. A uniform? Did you pay for it because then add on to your 1/2 fees? Do you train at a facility and get classroom work similar to Spirit's? Do you have the same trainers and staff as Spirit? There's your difference.
6:32 I wasn't sarcastic. I repeat we get all that's mentioned including uniform etc... If you're telling me that your trainers and facilities are worth twice the price, then they're happy to have you as customer. "Ours is better than yours"?? Really? Everything is result oriented nowadays so let's just wait and judge teams by their record. allow them to play first? The same college coaches will be watching both teams on match day. Let them be the judges
I'ma Euro and have played my entire life - most of the coaches are the same - not worth the money we spend on them. If they use cones for pattern passing it's a waste of money.
As i said a few days ago to the Spirit guy...we pay less than half of the 5k they pay who cares....what is your daughter receiving and if you approve then go with it if you can afford it
Old world there was an ECNL board, but all the ECNL posts still came on this board putting down gotsoccer and any type of ranking. All the college recruiting came from the ECNL events all others were GS point chasers.
New world there is a DA board but the same posters will be on here saying how the GDA is the place to be and everything else is second rate.
Please help me understand why don't you guys share your DA stories with other DA posters. If we wanted the goods we would check out that board?
It doesn't bother me - but I can see why you would say that. Anyway back to rankings. Last Updated - August 22, 2017: United Soccer Coaches
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This board is no fun anymore, use to get a laugh when Wildcats would win, when PDA Storm was afraid to play them, when MF doesn't have coaches at practices, Crush had the crush-copter reposed, WC and their Daddy coaches, and good old dysfunctional Long Island USA, I miss those days...
WC ECNL team should do well, I would say top 4, and another trip to champions league playoffs. The real question is can they score enough goals to beat teams, not so sure. They play a very conservative style, and wait to quickly counterattack, not sure that wins at the upper tier, they need to add more forward firepower.
Looks like PDA U16/U17 vs Virginia game will be streamed live at 11 by GDA this weekend. Lovers and haters will be able to share comments on this forum in real time.
Why not? Teams do that already in other leagues and tourneys. They travel without knowing the outcome or even dreading the outcome. And sometimes, the vegas lines were wrong.
Good luck to all my daughters past team mates, possibly future team mates at the DA this weekend for PDA, CSA and Spirit. I think at the least these girls and parents have made an all in commitment for soccer and must love the sport.
6:49 So was it a joke to the 4 players who had to watch? The benefit is that 8 players play the full game and 4 never enter the game.
Make no mistakes this benefits the players playing.
A roster of 24 girls has 6 girls not dressing and another 4 not playing. make sure you have thick skin and don't wreck it for the girls playing. Gone are the days of 7 subs per half for ECNL/NPL and unlimited for USYS.
I am a fan of less subs. You get to see the pecking order very easily. For some this is worth 5k (if you are playing) if not like I said I hope you have thick skin and make the most of your minutes.
I am sure there is some deadline when scores must be posted. nothing is posted. why blow the horns if you are not going to post the scores? let us see.
Do you really think US Soccer is going to micromanage youth soccer scores? I thought the scores don't matter at the GDA level -that it was all about the players? I guess. If it was about the players, there would be no need to post results.
3:02 there is no need to post them or track standings. If it's about player development, every game should be played like it's a qualifier. Win the game no looking beyond the game at hand.
8 of the players will play a full game and they will be the players with the spotlight on them as they play your last 15 minutes.
What players development? What is it? One team wins 7-0 and there is player development? Are these the best girls? It looks like everybody is struggling to put complete teams on the field , constantly using younger players . And they are lucky they can combine two age groups together otherwise will be even worst . Some of you are writing like Da cannot do anything wrong , like ecnl until last year. I understand you cannot have your ego and status hurt . But please stop with is only about development . Scores do not matter , winning and losing do not matter, These girls like the other will end up their careee in college or in environments where the result is the only thing that matter like in every competitive sport. Stop the nonsense only to justify something that might be good in the future but right now is struggling for quality and quantity.
6:46 aren't all the leagues struggling for quality and quantity? or are you speaking about soccer in general? DA isn't the be all end all. How can it be if you have some of the same players that weren't even very good in ECNL or USYS and then suddenly an emblem makes them better?
And, same with some coaches. I have seen some very good teams gutted by coaches that thought they were better than they actually were, too. Just because you understand the game doesn't translate into coaching it, successfully.
It's a sport. And not one that even pays well professionally for most females anyway.
If GDA was purely about development then they wouldn't limit games to 3 subs. All limiting subs does is make the coaches have to make tactical decisions. It doesn't help develop those late bloomers who would otherwise be given minutes elsewhere. Guess that's the parents decision next year when they realize they've paid x amount of money and their daughter has played 20 minutes all year....
3 subs is the essence of soccer at this level and going forward if aspirations of nt are involved, get used to it. yes their will be parents and players who, in all the excitement, didn't realize where they stood on the roster food chain...
US Soccer is developing the top of the roster, not the bottom. If a kid is not good enough to start for their local DA team then they are not good enough to call up. The DA is not pretending to develop everyone who makes the team. They only want the best of the best.
The limited substitution rule is to align with international play. It is also to keep players from running until they need a rest and then sit on the bench until they are ready to run some more. These kids need to know how to play an entire game. You especially do a disservice to strikers and midfielders by letting them rest on the bench. Constant subbing hurts the flow of the game as well. It becomes effort based and not team tactic based. You see many coaches sub to hurt the flow of the apposing team and this is NOT in the spirit of the game.
I definitely agree with the sub rules impacting the flow of play, and preventing coaches up in a 1 goal game from time wasting. The other thing I noticed is the stats contain playing time similar to college, it will be interesting to see how the 0 start 0 play girls from week one fair in week 2?? Or eventually if the entire roster looks like there is some type of equivalent playing time. How does a girl earn a spot on the field if the 14 who play are consistent and continue to win or keep it close? Also, is there a 2 keeper system where games are split by halves? or true starter back-up? the latter would really suck for the back-up.
There will be nearly zero college coaches attending DA games this season because they have their own season to manage. I talked to a coach during the summer and he laughed about it. They will attend the December event and events going forward, but not games!
Perhaps the U of Buffalo coach did not get your memo, could of sworn that was her watching our game on Saturday, these coaches need to focus on their own team...
Two things... 1. PDA making money and/or 2. High roster but girls being pulled up to 18/19 team as needed? Classics is currently experiencing the same thing
6:26 Don't take this the wrong way but NJ had way more stronger teams than NYE ever had. So maybe they just have a larger pool. Cedar Stars also has 17 in the 99/00 group.
The question is why does NYE have 4 GDA team's this is not the boys side. NJ has only 2 with stronger girl teams.
8:01 PDA has 22 players in the 99/00 age bucket and 24 in the 02/01 bucket. Very Sad with only 14 playing game day. I'm willing to bet not all are playing for free. Talk about watering down a product. Classics is not experiencing the same thing they are not even in the same conversation when it comes to brand on the girls side. Classics just had more girls that were real with themselves and their game. Play HS since NT will never be in the cards, nothing wrong with that.
8:46, Are you saying that within a 50-mile radius, NYCFC could not build strong GDA teams? The only thing stronger in NJ is the stench on the Turnpike around exit 8.
All I said was that NJ has a bigger player pool than NYE and that there was no need for 4 GDAs in NYE. Didn't say anything about what NYCFC can or can't do. PDA, MatchFit, CedarStars, SJEB, NJ Wildcats, PSA, NJ Stallions, FC Copa, STA just to name a few compared to World Class, NYSC, East Meadow & Albertson. Who did I miss, there is no team in Brooklyn or Queens that is strong.
10:06 So you are saying PA Classics girl's program is the same as PDA? or you trying to be a tough guy?
10:42 I read it as the club comparison was snarky but the discussion was about the roster sizes. Not how good you think the club is. Of course classics and pda are very different
Cedar Stars is gonna be a joke first off, 4-0 loss. PDA will not concede a goal for a few weeks if your lucky. If you watched their game last week they were dominating and should have been 3-0 if they had more shots on target. Stop predicting scores you dope!
I like the prediction score posting guy, he tries at least. The board is becoming very tiresome, I need some real animosity, will give my wife a call...
Funny 11:40... Used to be a guy that always posted predictions and the mature people enjoyed the banter created by this. Too many defensive people around these days... Bets wishes to all the ALL the DA girls playing this weekend!!
Stars was quick. Tough in the back 4, though they showed some cracks second half. I like how the keepers targeted players, though I would not call it "playing out of the back". First keeper pretty much untested, second keeper had a real nice leg save on a 1 v 1. (VA goal on a PK)
VA team looked young. Keeper kept the score as close as it was, though she left a boxed cross in the middle of the field leading to the first CS score.. No dominant field player for VA. CS's #7 led the play.
I thought Mulch played well. Using the keeper under pressure, and I think neither team punted the ball once, all balls were played out of the back. Which is the way soccer should be played. Of course punting is a necessary evil at times. Their was a couple of players for Mulch that were dominant in defense and offense. VDA was pretty good I thought. But the ball was on that goal line another 2 times in the 2nd half and VDA got real lucky that Mulch could not finish those balls in front of the net. In the end the result was accurate. VDA only had one or two chances tops in 45 minute 2nd half. I think Mulch will have a decent first season from what I saw.
You guys have nothing else better to do with your time than go see someone else's 15 year old kid play soccer. Go spend time with your own family and stop being a creepy stalker...
@7:42 exactly the type of person who ruins this board. Must be arrogant, hated person in general. What is wrong with watching a DA game. His kid must be on MOSA team or want to be DA. And my kid was also on one of teams mentioned and yes I was there. Watching my kid. There was over 100 plus people at the game plus kids watching and waiting for next game. Go to the bar and watch your girls you creep
It is obvious that the person commenting on the two teams playing had no child in either club.
I say they are a creep because they are going to watch a bunch of 15 year old girls play soccer that they don't know. The fact that they took the time to drive to a far away field to watch other peoples children play raises many questions and red flags. I am in law enforcement and that fits the definition of type 4 predator behavior.
I am not talking to the people who were waiting for the next game or watching their own child.
How is that obvious? I am one of the posters and you are wrong. There were several teams discussed, btw. And, based on past experience playing one, i agreed and am with another one being discussed as an upcoming/potential one.
And i agree. there are weirdo's out there everywhere. but rest assured, based on my background in law enforcement, ones talking about the games and the kids with respect to their skill and ability on this site are not the ones you need to worry about.
I don't have a kid on a DA team and I was at Saturday's 10 AM game. I was curious of the level of play, having 2 daughters that may/may not play in the division. Actually got into a couple of good conversations regarding DA vs high school, etc. Thanks for your concern for my well being, 11:16. And for protecting all the innocents. Sometimes giving off that persona is a good way to hide your own maladies.
11:16 is just crazy and I hope to God not in law enforcement. I do now of one mother who was going to watch because her daughter may try out, but that was actually for the 03 DA.
I would like to invite anyone who wants to see a great game to the NYCFC vs Boston Breakers game, Sat @3pm, bring the family, bring a holding chair, bring your girlfriend, or boyfriend, bring the nanny, bring granny, bring Peter, Paul, and Hairy Mary, see love the company!!!
Yes, agreed, great for those small teams. Now win the flight. Keep in mind that is a weaker top flight. No ecnl applications, all DA girls are playing DA. And many HS starters trying to make impact at HS level. I don't know the AZ or GA teams, but I give nod to Loudon and Beach
9:22 Are you congratulating teams and wishing them well or stressing the fact that your daughter is on a better team and not playing there? You showed your true colors by using words like "small teams" "weaker top flight" "no ecnl teams" "no DA teams" Pretty much a passive aggressive post.
We all know you can play well, play good constructive soccer and not come out on top.
Yes, small amounts (at least) of winning are necessary over the course of a season. But pinpointing and saying ou need to win a particular group is just silly childish banter.
Here is what I really think. It is a weaker top flight obviously. too obvious. But here is a chance for those teams to win at WAGS. So good for those teams. Now win the flight, or at least be semi-finalists. My daughter is not playing there, her club has not done this tournament for two years now. Last was at U13, same with FC Delco. We do CASL, Bethesda, Jeff Cup, PDA. Each to their own. Best of luck to those teams making top flight anywhere. Just play well and win the flight. Prove to me and mostly to everyone else why you are in the top flight.
9:22 they are playing for the coaches that show up and those coaches don't care about who's not there only if the players playing are a fit.
10:25 Win the flight applies to those teams if they want to be considered for top flights when more teams enter as 9:22 pointed out. Not the players,they just play and try to win regardless.
12:43 how is it silly banter? Wouldn't winning the flight help them at the next tournament they apply for?
person posting NYCFC scores, you do realize that many of the players on Boston Breakers were granted waivers. Majority of top players (basically starting lineup) are playing HS and will resume DA after HS season is over.
I am the person posting NYCFC score, and my daughter plays for both Breakers and Stars of Mass, and high school, and field hockey, and she is tired of your dumb comments....
12:37, so should NYCFC vacate their results? Perhaps we should wait for some magical moment when all the best of the best of the best of the best decide they want to play? You need to spend more time (and money) on personal trainers for your daughter, since the ECNL season will be here soon.
P.S. No one is going to look at your comment and say, wow you’re right, they will see a bitter little person with a huge ax to grind, and that ax is still dull....
The one commonality I see in the posted DA scores is higher scoring. So no 0-0. 1-0. I believe the DA model is very smart, plays offensive minded and trying to score. If you score 2 or more goals in a typical match you will win. Especially if you are up 2-0. Soccer is a game that once you are up by 2 goals you can tighten defense and win games. And if it is 3-0 forget it, game over 99% of the time.
4:04, you are obviously soccer-savvy, and you know that if the other team does not pressure the GK she can basically stand there for quite and while and play pass to me with the back-line, its not pretty, but its good soccer.
Smart to play offensive minded? I kind of agree if it's offensive minded in a "chess" way. We need to teach our young players to play fast and relaxed soccer. We just can run up the field in a line looking for through balls that's bad soccer and only works vs weaker teams. When a team is organized on the defensive end and playing a counterattack game you need to know how to break them down. we lack that on both sides. We have skilled players, they just can't play chess which makes us very easy to defend.
I blame us parents for this - because we all love the fast attacking soccer and the coaches all look for players that can play this style. They don't look for soccer players that can play chess. Hopefully of the 70 GDA clubs they can find at least 1 per age group.
Ahhh yes, finally noticing the one of the big differences between ECNL and DA?? Clubs that can transition to a more technical and tactical style will be tough to beat. As I explained to an ECNL parent recently, DA is basically ECNL speed and toughness, but more cerebral....
12:52 of the 70 or so clubs how many have you seen play and which ones?
What ECNL teams are in your area?
Don't know if I agree with ECNL as the best option,but that's your opinion and that's cool. I agree GDA will benefit the younger kids and in 5 years hands down the best league if not sooner.
12:47 define struggled? Are you saying players that played with first team and struggled (I agree) or girls that played a few minutes with reserves vs reserves? Big difference, I don't think you can judge the girls that played just a few minutes with reserves (not easy to play with a short leash with other non-1st team players).
11:48 good to read that they are making the girls think a few moves in advance. This is why I love the #6 player the most, if you have a good one that can move the ball to shift the other team around before she hits her attacking players. By now girls should understand their role and function in a unit with any player
3:03, i'm 12:47 your first option, girls that struggled with 1st team players in ECNL. Why not play ECNL and master it instead? It will help with confidence, too.
12:52 some areas have too many DA's like some other areas were flooded with ECNL teams. I don't agree with the best bet ECNL at least in my area. Most of the good players are playing GDA. But, every area is different. Will be interesting to see the evolution of the leagues as early as next year. The switches that take place.
3:03 agreed, but knowing your role and being able to execute with regularity is a huge difference. so the unit may still struggle as a result. not all kids are plug and play. some are just plug.
I have noticed the two DA games I watched that keepers do not punt the ball. they play out of the back, which is top 2 smartest things you do to play proper soccer and not rely on a 50/50 ball to win games. Also they do not kick and run. So you never hear a coach yelling "clear it, clear it". Or a coach saying "punt the ball" to his keeper. Those two things are damaging to a soccer players future, and yes parents are to blame along with coaches. but again I will say you do what you have to do in the end to win games, but clearing the ball and punting is a no no, and for sure DA is not doing this.
8:12 I disagree you want to roll the ball out so teams press b/c once you get out of your back it's game on with tons of space. But I do agree every week is different as far as tactical.
4:31 the one thing I hat the most is the goalie punting the ball, instead of keeping the ball they play a 50/50 I agree with 4:17. When you have the ball the other team can't score but you can. 4:17 i'm okay will playing direct if you can score in 2 touches why not,I don't care that it's called kick and run
What is your keeper experience? My daughter is 2nd generation. And while I agree that punting is not always the answer I have to disagree with your dogmatic statement, I think you may have posted this before as well. I agree with the other poster who indicated that it is the keeper's choice, especially at this age. They have to read the field as well as the flow of play, sometimes under pressure a well placed punt can spring a fast forward if the keeper can read the other teams formation and back line. The keeper also can recognize the other keeper's tendencies and if a long ball from the back works to their advantage should play it. In games where a team is not pressing the keeper becomes an additional back, holding the ball at their feet and playing direct to maintain possession. I have also attended quite a few college games and you will see a fair amount of punts (both men's and women's) The bottom line is that with each play the keeper needs to make the decision on the best option.
It sounds like you may be the parent of a keeper who is not seeing time and critiquing the play of the current starter.
8:54 agreed. a smart keeper knows what to do in various situations. and nothing is off the board as far as what to use in the tool bag when situations arise.
also agree about your conclusion. sounds like a deflated ball err i mean ego.
On another note, read an article about Kansas City in NWSL and it's financial woes. I thought the league was doing better and looking to expand.
@8:54. no, more of a critique to coaches and teams that punt the ball all the time. Play the ball out of the back, keep the possession. Do not punt unless you have to. If the defender comes under pressure they can then kick the 50/50 ball.
@8:54. Being 2nd generation, wouldn't you agree the game has changed? When I played in the 70's and 80's, into early 90's we always punted, always. I really feel like only in last few years or so the keeper has become the most important player on the team, if they are good of course. Watch the German sweeper keepers, winning world cups. Also watch most pro and college games as the keeper is up high, communicating and organizing defense and really being the true 11th player. switching fields, and seeing the game. Hope Solo was really good at all that btw. And the Rutgers girl keeper Casey does this very well.
We are very lucky to have one of the best u17 Goalkeepers in this country, and yeah she does all of the above, but her greatest asset is her positive and encouraging personality, especially with the younger GK's.
8:54 here. I agree wholeheartedly. I actually distributed more than most back in the late 80's. Thank goodness the position has evolved since then. My offense to the poster was a lot of non-keeper parents do not often see anything beyond a shot stopper. As a keeper and the parent of one I realize that playing from the back, utilizing the 11th player to control aspects of the game and be the eyes down field make than as important as the striker and CB. There is also a coaching dynamic that may not have a strong CM to direct traffic but a strong Forward or OB that can consistently win 50/50 balls. Again, having a strong, smart athletic keeper is valuable commodity, as evidenced by the interest I have seen for my daughter over the past few years.
you all ought to stop dissecting and analyzing all this. you're parents. you know nothing about the sport and anything you do know is from the 1980s. who gives a rats ass what you think. all that matters is what her coach thinks and what the next coach in her pyramid thinks. i read all this academy, ecnl, nonsense from clueless folk who pretend to know the sport and know the landscape, as if ANYONE could tell you the landscape years from now. has it ever struck you that in your self-proclaimed wisdom you might just have it wrong! that you might be dead inaccurate about the best leagues, best teams, your own kids status (good or bad), whether punting or not punting makes sense. I'm sur eyou're aware a little known team called Barcelona rarely punts, and rarely serves up corners. while another fairly unknown squad called real madrid loves punts and loves corners and serving balls into the path of monster athletes like bale, #7, Benzema.
Point is...go spend time worrying about your kids education, what classes she's taking, what her grades are, her community service.
This site atleast is fun and funny when you're bagging on each other on the coaches . The minute it gets all serious about the tactics of play...its throw up material.
Okay Pep, will try not to talk about soccer again, how about Cricket?? Now that game is very under-rated, and its great for tailgating, lots of drunk wankers like yourself in attendance, telling anyone who will listen, that they don’t know anything about soccer, Go Man City!!
3:55 you are correct about funny and you are the joke as you are the only one who is taking any of this seriously. All I see is a bunch of parents shooting the breeze about soccer at their kids level and some others that have nothing better to do than trying to find a hot topic and since it annoys you i add my opinion below
#1 player on the field is the #6 (the quarterback) #2 player on the field is the #10 (the star running back) #3/4 players on the field are the CB (Strong,Fearless and Fast) #5 player on the field is the GK #6-11 are all role players.
All contribute to the success of the team the decades may have changed but the game is still played the same way my friend.
While I get your post chill man this is just a board talking about girls youth soccer not the rocket man and how close we are to life changing.
355 is just a loser, obviously, just a complete loser. I back and agree with 420 a about 355. It is a shame you have posters like 355 that really ruin this board. probably same person who says watching DA games is strange. Thanks to other posters for great conversation.
not 355 but thank you 420 for making her point! shooting the breeze!! thank you for laying out the field positions and position#s. i bet you're the parent who sits on the sidelines saying stuff like "man, i wish she would drop deeper, she's really playing more like a 6 than 4 or a 5! dang her SHES A 5!!! not a 6!!!! " thank you for shooting the breeze.
5:02, cannot tell if you're being nice, if not, you should try harder. I think your point was let the coaches coach, the players play, and the parents keep quiet. Those points he made are all valid, but most would not voice them out loud, more under-the-breath stuff. If you're daughter is playing DA right now, just enjoy the ride, life is stressful enough, let this be a pleasant distraction, cheers!!
PS. bad example with your 4, 5 & 6s though. You do know the 4 & 5s are CBs, right and the 6 is right in front of them? Your dig would have made more sense if you said the 10 was dropping to far back.
Sad that no one posts here anymore, this use to be a welcomed distraction. Miss the insults, name calling, and stupid predictions, those were good times, sigh.
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STA, MatchFit and Copa should merge for a GDA also. Their other teams continue playing ECNL/NPL and UYSY.
There you go 4 super clubs in NJ for the GDA
2002 = 40 players
2001 = 40 players
and each one of them have a pyramid.
This is what Soccer needs Clubs working together to benefit the kids 4 top teams in the GDA and the feeder teams continue playing whatever.
STA, Match Fit and Copa are already great feeder clubs to PDA DA and ECNL teams - why change the status quo?
Is it true that NJX crew lost there top players to CSA?
"there" players "here" players "everywhere" players
9:00 Are we in a time loop?
10:30 Currently NJYS ODP has what 25 players? The rebrand to CSA and PDA will now create an opportunity for 50 players instead of 25. SJEB/Rush, PDA/Wildcats will make a play for the GDA they would be crazy if they didn't. This would create an opportunity for 100 players in NJ instead of the 25 that ODP provides or the 50 that the ECNL provided. So what does STA, matchFit and Copa do? Continue down their ECNL/NPL path or join/create a super club?
GDA = Is players first in theory
Everyone else is club or team 1st.
GDA is club first. Just like ECNL and NPL
Very few small clubs and coaches are player first.
Heard that all the NYCFC girls will be brought on-field before a game, and introduced to the crowd. Just think about all the conversations on the car-rides home for the any girls who were on-the-fence. #brilliantmarketing
If there are 4 DA in NJ, and it is PDA, CSA, PSA and NJ Rush that would cover all of NJ in many areas. So that could change it real quick. Then everything else would be 2nd tier for sure
11:29 I agree I'm 9:13.
The GDA is the top of the Pyramid no doubt and with 4 clubs in NJ - there is also no doubt all the top players will be playing GDA and because each of the super clubs will have various ECNL/USYS/NPL teams to develop other players that may or may not give them an opportunity to play GDA. If PDA thinks the kid is 2nd level, they can tryout at one of the other 3 for a shot one way or another they will have their answer as will the USSF in NJ few if any players will fall through the cracks at the younger ages is where it really matters.
And when you think about it, it becomes reserve teams. Just like professional soccer. You have reserves, that can come up, be relegated as rules allow.
then the product become diluted. They saw that happen with ECNL. I don't see US Soccer doing that at least right away.
I just don't think ecnl was diluted? It was the best until DA. With only 2 DA in NJ, certainly not diluted. I think 4 for NJ is perfect.
There are other states that only have 2 or less as well and are bigger as far as square footage/population. Some have zero. VA only has 3; MD has 1; PA has 2 (0 in Western PA); GA has 2; NC has 2; etc.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-club-directory
Keep banging your drum, but there are other areas that would be serviced by another DA or two as well. I think they are intentionally keeping the numbers down for now.
Boy Region DA CLUB DIRECTORY
The Girls will look something like that
Super Clubs and Rock Solid individual teams at the younger ages
35 Boy DA Clubs from Region1 compared to 16 on the girls side.
Plenty of room to grow and add.
VA/DC/MD (8 clubs)
NH/RI/MA/CT (9 clubs)
NYE (7 clubs)
NJ (5 clubs)
PA-E (5 clubs)
NYW (1 Club)
PS. A Development Academy can never be "diluted". It's about development. and more opportunities.
The part time clubs only younger ages with strong teams will move up to the National League after their better players move to a Full time DA club to continue giving the team a showcase since the ECNL is all about the club.
3:40 I agree - we will see some expansion next year.
Boys didn't have a league like ECNL. Now that they do, some of these academies may go away to make it a pyramid.
On the boys' side USYS/NL is still a hot ticket. I would not compare girls and boys because girls' system has taken the pyramid route and boys' system has not.
Boys - more like an hourglass as far as team participation (DA top; ECNL/NPL middle; USYS and similar teams bottom) instead of a pyramid.
3:47 i disagree. Any team can be diluted if the best players are not on it. That is what happened with ECNL and USYS in some areas. Some teams had too much gap between levels of players. Top development only works if top level skill and soccer iq are selected.
Here is what a big attraction to DA should be. First it should be little cost or free, why pay even $2,000 per year, if your kid can play for free. I don't care how much money you make. Every dollar in your pocket is better than someone else's. Second it should be at the least a team that is solid from 1-8 lets say? Always weakest link on all good teams, professional or not. Third it should get you the best competition and college coaches. So maybe 4 points then.
Other than the free, hopefully, most teams meet those requirements you listed. But, i also agree. it should be free or pretty close to it.
Just saw the PDA DA roster, and it's stacked, good luck Mid-Atlantic Division, you're going to need it....
Realistically, how can it be free. Someone has to pay the trainers salary and overhead of running a club.
I am willing to pay a small amount now and pay much less for college later. For me it is an investment in my child's future. It is a risky investment but most high yield investments are.
It would not be entirely fair to make the lower level teams in the club carry the load of all the DA teams above them. USSF already makes it easy because they cover most of the DA costs and don't charge for their events.
The real question is why is there a drastic cost difference between the different DA clubs?
The larger tickets have the professional coaches (training and performance) and facilities. Isn't CSA free?
Go to the washingtonspirit.com and read through the GDA academy fees and FAQ.
Read what the fees include and what they exclude. Hard to compare to other programs which will exclude lots of things that are part of those fees.
- uniform
- supplemental training
- medical screening
- all coach/trainer travel
- season tickets
Steep price tag...
washingtonspirit.com $5,000 per year for them. But you do get uniforms, 4x week training, goal keeper trainer on staff. I am positive now that DA from club to club is different pricing. They state it should be as close to free as feasible.
Definitely...we pay half that and receive all that's mentioned.
We pay 2/3 and receive 1/2.
Im wondering how are the typical fees in the D.C. Area to start off that the club had to set up this FAQ. What about scholarships? I've heard GDA offers tuition as well as travel scholarships for those in need.
I hear that on here, a lot. Those in need of assistance, and in relation to this thread, please stop. There is zero-way that someone of modest means can participate in this madness. In a perfect world, in a galaxy far away, that could be the case.
5:53 i took the posting as sarcastic. A uniform? Did you pay for it because then add on to your 1/2 fees? Do you train at a facility and get classroom work similar to Spirit's? Do you have the same trainers and staff as Spirit? There's your difference.
6:32 I wasn't sarcastic.
I repeat we get all that's mentioned including uniform etc...
If you're telling me that your trainers and facilities are worth twice the price, then they're happy to have you as customer.
"Ours is better than yours"?? Really?
Everything is result oriented nowadays so let's just wait and judge teams by their record. allow them to play first?
The same college coaches will be watching both teams on match day. Let them be the judges
Ok, in a totally anonymous way - what club is that?
Haha!! Club's name has 2 words in it and 20 letters total :)
6:44 so you are saying that you would not spend more for NWSL trained coaches, trainers and facilities and being able to train with them? okay.
Not 6:44 - never would i spend that amount.
I'ma Euro and have played my entire life - most of the coaches are the same - not worth the money we spend on them. If they use cones for pattern passing it's a waste of money.
Most DA players are paying about that 5k. Many partial scholarships and some full.
No, they are not, more like 2600...
As i said a few days ago to the Spirit guy...we pay less than half of the 5k they pay
who cares....what is your daughter receiving and if you approve then go with it if you can afford it
To Funny:
Old world there was an ECNL board, but all the ECNL posts still came on this board putting down gotsoccer and any type of ranking. All the college recruiting came from the ECNL events all others were GS point chasers.
New world there is a DA board but the same posters will be on here saying how the GDA is the place to be and everything else is second rate.
Please help me understand why don't you guys share your DA stories with other DA posters. If we wanted the goods we would check out that board?
Academy Soccer board:
http://youthsoccertalk.blogspot.com/2012/05/academy-soccer-new-may-11.html
This page is designated for questions, comments and sharing information related to youth soccer academies.
All age groups and boy / girls will be included here.
Nah, I am going to continue to post DA stuff here, only because I know it bothers you.
Thanks!
and there's nothing interesting on the da site
It doesn't bother me - but I can see why you would say that. Anyway back to rankings. Last Updated - August 22, 2017: United Soccer Coaches
RANK SCHOOL
1 Stanford
1 West Virginia
3 South Carolina
4 North Carolina
5 Southern California
6 Florida State
7 UCLA
8 Florida
9 Penn State
10 Virginia
11 Georgetown
12 Duke
13 Clemson
14 Nebraska
15 Rutgers
16 Texas A&M
17 Brigham Young
18 Utah
19 California
20 Auburn
21 Connecticut
22 Northwestern
23 Michigan
24 Notre Dame
25 North Carolina State
Thanks P5 College list guy, and yes my daughter would love to go to all of those....are any free???
Sorry forgot to mention, except Rutgers, because they suck.
So much for that verbal with Duke...There not even top 10
Screw that
Hoping I can get ahold of my daughter at scholl
college coaches! ha. why cant they plug in college games into YSR - where the best team in NJ is ranked 21 nationally - yet still revered.
revered??
And YSR for college?? Unnecessary. NCAA takes care of it.
This board is no fun anymore, use to get a laugh when Wildcats would win, when PDA Storm was afraid to play them, when MF doesn't have coaches at practices, Crush had the crush-copter reposed, WC and their Daddy coaches, and good old dysfunctional Long Island USA, I miss those days...
5:50 i guess nothing has changed other than wildcats are PSA and crush is CSA.
The only thing that is a total surprise is that WC team stayed put and will dominate ECNL this year.
Oh no NJ people are upset!
PDA PDA PDA!!!
WC ECNL team should do well, I would say top 4, and another trip to champions league playoffs. The real question is can they score enough goals to beat teams, not so sure. They play a very conservative style, and wait to quickly counterattack, not sure that wins at the upper tier, they need to add more forward firepower.
Looks like PDA U16/U17 vs Virginia game will be streamed live at 11 by GDA this weekend. Lovers and haters will be able to share comments on this forum in real time.
How am I suppose to watch the game, when I am driving my kid to her DA game?? Can it be streamed into Waze???
My daughter has her permit. Time to let her drive and let me watch the game.
I wouldn't let my wife drive that far, let alone my daughter, besides isn't your daughter playing in that game??
Yup
Driving is part of growing into a productive adult. Can't she drive to a game?
Productive adult? I would be happy with her picking up her laundry from the floor, now that’s a start.
You're the parent right?
Laundry on the floor= no training/game/phone/car/etc...
Teach consequences or our society will continue to feel entitled
Thanks 6:49, I knew you were the right person to ask....
Anytime for free advice
#bestparenthere
Saturday's outlook
Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17 1
FC Virginia U-16/17 4
PA Classics U-16/17 0
Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17 2
Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17 5
Virginia Development Academy U-16/17 1
Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17 1
Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17 1
10:45, if you’re going through all the trouble, at least list the A-league games...Northeast Conference.
Here's for the dude with small hands from NY
Empire United U-16/17 1
New York City FC U-16/17 1
Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17 0
FC Fury NY U-16/17 0
Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17 3
Long Island SC U-16/17 1
Those are pretty good picks/scores, but you are giving NYSC too much credit...even against LISC.
all the way to virginia to get pounded 4-1? or to tie 1-1.
mind boggling.
Why not? Teams do that already in other leagues and tourneys. They travel without knowing the outcome or even dreading the outcome.
And sometimes, the vegas lines were wrong.
Now that's funny...like you know the outcome of a game!! Every game is new and one never knows what will happen
We are not driving 4 hours each way to lose, if we do, no dinner for my wife!
Good luck to all my daughters past team mates, possibly future team mates at the DA this weekend for PDA, CSA and Spirit. I think at the least these girls and parents have made an all in commitment for soccer and must love the sport.
Thanks 10:09, aka Republican Party Speech Director, you can live through us, promise we will not judge you, too much....
Or an Oscar acceptance speech. "You like me; you really like me."
I heard Antifa will be at the DA games tomorrow....
Yes, but not for games in Virginia, those are covered by the other guys...
Yes, I forgot about the Asian confederate generals....
I am glad you have finally admitted it, the Chinese did not JUST build the railroads for free....
PDA 1-0. Fairly dominant, wore PDA uniforms with a Sky Blue patch.
NYCFC 4
EMPIRE UNITED 1
Penn Fusion 01 DA 7
Virginia Dev Academy 0
what a joke !
why 7:0 the prediction was 5:1
6:49 So was it a joke to the 4 players who had to watch?
The benefit is that 8 players play the full game and 4 never enter the game.
Make no mistakes this benefits the players playing.
A roster of 24 girls has 6 girls not dressing and another 4 not playing.
make sure you have thick skin and don't wreck it for the girls playing.
Gone are the days of 7 subs per half for ECNL/NPL and unlimited for USYS.
I am a fan of less subs. You get to see the pecking order very easily.
For some this is worth 5k (if you are playing) if not like I said I hope you have thick skin and make the most of your minutes.
Some games will be easier than others until they work off the rust. What were other scores like for other teams?
I am sure there is some deadline when scores must be posted. nothing is posted. why blow the horns if you are not going to post the scores? let us see.
The scores were so all over the board we decided they will not be posted for the first week.
Just saw that Empire United was outscored 27-2, ugh, just ugh....
Then why post a 7-0 win for PF but not post a 1-0 win for spirit?
The 18/19s pf had 10-0 win!!!
Is US Soccer handling the posting of the scores or team managers? Does anyone know?
Not sure, I think the home team infrastructure (a human person) is suppose to list scores, and game reports...
I bet the parents of the 10+ players not playing for pf saturday were so thrilled!!!!
Do you really think US Soccer is going to micromanage youth soccer scores?
I thought the scores don't matter at the GDA level -that it was all about the players? I guess. If it was about the players, there would be no need to post results.
Scores always matter
Have to learn to compete
Last fifteen minutes of a 1-goal or tie game can show COOL, CALM or TREPIDATION.
That is if the collegiate folk arein attendance.
Otherwise - hey..... maybe you are playing to stay in the lineup. Competition for scholarship. Competition for playing time. It's all good.
(and yeah, score matters in that sense)
3:02 there is no need to post them or track standings. If it's about player development, every game should be played like it's a qualifier. Win the game no looking beyond the game at hand.
8 of the players will play a full game and they will be the players with the spotlight on them as they play your last 15 minutes.
What players development? What is it? One team wins 7-0 and there is player development? Are these the best girls? It looks like everybody is struggling to put complete teams on the field , constantly using younger players . And they are lucky they can combine two age groups together otherwise will be even worst . Some of you are writing like Da cannot do anything wrong , like ecnl until last year. I understand you cannot have your ego and status hurt . But please stop with is only about development . Scores do not matter , winning and losing do not matter, These girls like the other will end up their careee in college or in environments where the result is the only thing that matter like in every competitive sport. Stop the nonsense only to justify something that might be good in the future but right now is struggling for quality and quantity.
6:46 aren't all the leagues struggling for quality and quantity? or are you speaking about soccer in general? DA isn't the be all end all. How can it be if you have some of the same players that weren't even very good in ECNL or USYS and then suddenly an emblem makes them better?
And, same with some coaches. I have seen some very good teams gutted by coaches that thought they were better than they actually were, too. Just because you understand the game doesn't translate into coaching it, successfully.
It's a sport. And not one that even pays well professionally for most females anyway.
Of course score matters. GDA has playoffs just like any other league.
New question that no one addressed...where there any college coaches on the sidelines this past weekend?
If GDA was purely about development then they wouldn't limit games to 3 subs. All limiting subs does is make the coaches have to make tactical decisions. It doesn't help develop those late bloomers who would otherwise be given minutes elsewhere. Guess that's the parents decision next year when they realize they've paid x amount of money and their daughter has played 20 minutes all year....
3 subs is the essence of soccer at this level and going forward if aspirations of nt are involved, get used to it.
yes their will be parents and players who, in all the excitement, didn't realize where they stood on the roster food chain...
US Soccer is developing the top of the roster, not the bottom. If a kid is not good enough to start for their local DA team then they are not good enough to call up. The DA is not pretending to develop everyone who makes the team. They only want the best of the best.
The limited substitution rule is to align with international play. It is also to keep players from running until they need a rest and then sit on the bench until they are ready to run some more. These kids need to know how to play an entire game. You especially do a disservice to strikers and midfielders by letting them rest on the bench. Constant subbing hurts the flow of the game as well. It becomes effort based and not team tactic based. You see many coaches sub to hurt the flow of the apposing team and this is NOT in the spirit of the game.
Agreed. It is then up to the club to emphasize this (Ha! that'll happen) and the parents to be properly educated to not fool themselves.
I definitely agree with the sub rules impacting the flow of play, and preventing coaches up in a 1 goal game from time wasting. The other thing I noticed is the stats contain playing time similar to college, it will be interesting to see how the 0 start 0 play girls from week one fair in week 2?? Or eventually if the entire roster looks like there is some type of equivalent playing time. How does a girl earn a spot on the field if the 14 who play are consistent and continue to win or keep it close? Also, is there a 2 keeper system where games are split by halves? or true starter back-up? the latter would really suck for the back-up.
There will be nearly zero college coaches attending DA games this season because they have their own season to manage. I talked to a coach during the summer and he laughed about it. They will attend the December event and events going forward, but not games!
Perhaps the U of Buffalo coach did not get your memo, could of sworn that was her watching our game on Saturday, these coaches need to focus on their own team...
no doubt it's the pf connection...
Just noticed that PDA has 24 girls rostered for their DA team, while NYCFC has 17, so what is wrong with this picture??
Two things...
1. PDA making money and/or
2. High roster but girls being pulled up to 18/19 team as needed?
Classics is currently experiencing the same thing
6:26 Don't take this the wrong way but NJ had way more stronger teams than NYE ever had. So maybe they just have a larger pool. Cedar Stars also has 17 in the 99/00 group.
The question is why does NYE have 4 GDA team's this is not the boys side. NJ has only 2 with stronger girl teams.
8:01 PDA has 22 players in the 99/00 age bucket and 24 in the 02/01 bucket.
Very Sad with only 14 playing game day. I'm willing to bet not all are playing for free. Talk about watering down a product. Classics is not experiencing the same thing they are not even in the same conversation when it comes to brand on the girls side. Classics just had more girls that were real with themselves and their game. Play HS since NT will never be in the cards, nothing wrong with that.
8:46, Are you saying that within a 50-mile radius, NYCFC could not build strong GDA teams? The only thing stronger in NJ is the stench on the Turnpike around exit 8.
8:46
Can I get your cell? I'll check with you before I post a conversation to make sure it's what you deem "part of same conversation"
Why all the hate?
All I said was that NJ has a bigger player pool than NYE and that there was no need for 4 GDAs in NYE. Didn't say anything about what NYCFC can or can't do.
PDA, MatchFit, CedarStars, SJEB, NJ Wildcats, PSA, NJ Stallions, FC Copa, STA just to name a few compared to World Class, NYSC, East Meadow & Albertson. Who did I miss, there is no team in Brooklyn or Queens that is strong.
10:06 So you are saying PA Classics girl's program is the same as PDA? or you trying to be a tough guy?
GDA has team size requirements
Minimum 32 players- maximum 46 players - full time
That's across both age groups combined '02->'99
So 24 + 22 is at the max now. No doubt some are playing HS
They can also add developmental players
10:42
I read it as the club comparison was snarky but the discussion was about the roster sizes. Not how good you think the club is.
Of course classics and pda are very different
This weekend's scores:
Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17 2
Virginia Development Academy U-16/17 0
FC Virginia U-16/17 3
Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17 1
Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17 3
Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17 1
PA Classics U-16/17 0
Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17 4
Cedar Stars is gonna be a joke first off, 4-0 loss. PDA will not concede a goal for a few weeks if your lucky. If you watched their game last week they were dominating and should have been 3-0 if they had more shots on target. Stop predicting scores you dope!
Says the guy who probably plays every fantasy sport there is
I like the prediction score posting guy, he tries at least. The board is becoming very tiresome, I need some real animosity, will give my wife a call...
Funny 11:40...
Used to be a guy that always posted predictions and the mature people enjoyed the banter created by this.
Too many defensive people around these days...
Bets wishes to all the ALL the DA girls playing this weekend!!
5:55 and what's wrong with that?
These score predictions is all we're going to get. So far YSR is not tracking any of the DA games :/
I expect the PDA vs Wash Spirit VA will be more lopsided than 3-1. I predict 5-0
@7:14. 2-1 Cedar Stars
PDA 2-0 dominated the game 80-20. Cedar Stars played the weakest team, lets see how it goes.
NYCFC 3
OAKWOOD 1
Stars was quick. Tough in the back 4, though they showed some cracks second half. I like how the keepers targeted players, though I would not call it "playing out of the back". First keeper pretty much untested, second keeper had a real nice leg save on a 1 v 1. (VA goal on a PK)
VA team looked young. Keeper kept the score as close as it was, though she left a boxed cross in the middle of the field leading to the first CS score.. No dominant field player for VA. CS's #7 led the play.
Why doesn’t Cedar Mulch release their game reports, how lame is that????
I thought Mulch played well. Using the keeper under pressure, and I think neither team punted the ball once, all balls were played out of the back. Which is the way soccer should be played. Of course punting is a necessary evil at times. Their was a couple of players for Mulch that were dominant in defense and offense. VDA was pretty good I thought. But the ball was on that goal line another 2 times in the 2nd half and VDA got real lucky that Mulch could not finish those balls in front of the net. In the end the result was accurate. VDA only had one or two chances tops in 45 minute 2nd half. I think Mulch will have a decent first season from what I saw.
Cedar Mulch usually does well. All depends on the consistency and the weather.
Imagine a down pour...the mulch washes away and ends up in the lawn...
Not it you spread them out correctly, then it will stay stationary, just like most of their players.
The 6 moved fairly well
Didnt see the other 4 get much into the attack (something PDA does so well). Maybe down the line......
Interested to see NYCFC and Sky Blue-Westchester soon
Agreed. Other sounds awesome, too.
You guys have nothing else better to do with your time than go see someone else's 15 year old kid play soccer. Go spend time with your own family and stop being a creepy stalker...
Chris Henson was at the game looking for you.
Jim Henson was also there you muppet
my kid plays on one of the teams mentioned, you creep. nice to see where your thoughts go, immediately.
haha
i particularly liked the Sky Blue - Westchester comment. thought it was clever.
Used to be a guy around who got inside scoop on accepted teams at tournaments...are you out there fella?
Looking for early casl list...
Get your mind out of the gutter, 7:42
11:47, your kid plays for Carlos and the Magical Mayhem Machine??
My deepest condolences...
@7:42 exactly the type of person who ruins this board. Must be arrogant, hated person in general. What is wrong with watching a DA game. His kid must be on MOSA team or want to be DA. And my kid was also on one of teams mentioned and yes I was there. Watching my kid. There was over 100 plus people at the game plus kids watching and waiting for next game. Go to the bar and watch your girls you creep
It is obvious that the person commenting on the two teams playing had no child in either club.
I say they are a creep because they are going to watch a bunch of 15 year old girls play soccer that they don't know. The fact that they took the time to drive to a far away field to watch other peoples children play raises many questions and red flags. I am in law enforcement and that fits the definition of type 4 predator behavior.
I am not talking to the people who were waiting for the next game or watching their own child.
How is that obvious? I am one of the posters and you are wrong. There were several teams discussed, btw. And, based on past experience playing one, i agreed and am with another one being discussed as an upcoming/potential one.
And i agree. there are weirdo's out there everywhere. but rest assured, based on my background in law enforcement, ones talking about the games and the kids with respect to their skill and ability on this site are not the ones you need to worry about.
This is classic about "written blogs". You get constant misunderstandings.
I vote for live social media blogs. We can all wear face masks to remain anonymous :)
I don't have a kid on a DA team and I was at Saturday's 10 AM game. I was curious of the level of play, having 2 daughters that may/may not play in the division. Actually got into a couple of good conversations regarding DA vs high school, etc.
Thanks for your concern for my well being, 11:16. And for protecting all the innocents. Sometimes giving off that persona is a good way to hide your own maladies.
11:16 is just crazy and I hope to God not in law enforcement. I do now of one mother who was going to watch because her daughter may try out, but that was actually for the 03 DA.
I would like to invite anyone who wants to see a great game to the NYCFC vs Boston Breakers game, Sat @3pm, bring the family, bring a holding chair, bring your girlfriend, or boyfriend, bring the nanny, bring granny, bring Peter, Paul, and Hairy Mary, see love the company!!!
Anyone know this clown and how low can you go?!
http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2017/09/ex-soccer_league_treasurer_accused_of_stealing_457.html#incart_river_home
12:32 and 12:37 here. i have background in law enforcement. i'm not 11:16.
Happy for LDC and Mt Laurel getting top flight nod at WAGS -go for yours girls.
LOUDOUN SOCCER 02G RED (VA)
BETHESDA SC FREEDOM 02 (MD)
LDC UNITED '02 (PAE)
NCFC YOUTH 02 ELITE GIRLS (NC)
CESC CALVERT-ELITE '02 (MD)
LMVSC PATRIOTS 02G RED (VA)
LAKE NORMAN SC 02 ECLIPSE ELITE (NC)
LA GALAXY OC PREMIER 02 (CAS)
SCOTTSDALE SOCCER 02G BLACKHAWKS RICHARDSON (AZ)
BEACH FC 02G RED (VA)
AFC LIGHTNING '02 GOLD - NPL (GA)
MOUNT LAUREL UNITED PRIDE (NJ)
Yes, agreed, great for those small teams. Now win the flight. Keep in mind that is a weaker top flight. No ecnl applications, all DA girls are playing DA. And many HS starters trying to make impact at HS level. I don't know the AZ or GA teams, but I give nod to Loudon and Beach
9:22
Are you congratulating teams and wishing them well or stressing the fact that your daughter is on a better team and not playing there?
You showed your true colors by using words like "small teams" "weaker top flight" "no ecnl teams" "no DA teams"
Pretty much a passive aggressive post.
"Now win the flight"
Relaxxxxx, pal.
We all know you can play well, play good constructive soccer and not come out on top.
Yes, small amounts (at least) of winning are necessary over the course of a season. But pinpointing and saying ou need to win a particular group is just silly childish banter.
Here is what I really think. It is a weaker top flight obviously. too obvious. But here is a chance for those teams to win at WAGS. So good for those teams. Now win the flight, or at least be semi-finalists. My daughter is not playing there, her club has not done this tournament for two years now. Last was at U13, same with FC Delco. We do CASL, Bethesda, Jeff Cup, PDA. Each to their own. Best of luck to those teams making top flight anywhere. Just play well and win the flight. Prove to me and mostly to everyone else why you are in the top flight.
I agree with last two posting. Win the flight is silly banter, but at least be in semi's to show belong.
9:22 they are playing for the coaches that show up and those coaches don't care about who's not there only if the players playing are a fit.
10:25 Win the flight applies to those teams if they want to be considered for top flights when more teams enter as 9:22 pointed out. Not the players,they just play and try to win regardless.
12:43 how is it silly banter? Wouldn't winning the flight help them at the next tournament they apply for?
NYCFC 3
BOSTON BREAKERS 0
NYSC 3
FC STARS 1
PDA-4
PA Classics-1
I would assume if Cedar Stars won we would have seen a post already.
NYCFC 3
FC STARS 1
CSA lost 2-0
person posting NYCFC scores, you do realize that many of the players on Boston Breakers were granted waivers. Majority of top players (basically starting lineup) are playing HS and will resume DA after HS season is over.
Top players from FC Stars playing ECNL
I am the person posting NYCFC score, and my daughter plays for both Breakers and Stars of Mass, and high school, and field hockey, and she is tired of your dumb comments....
I think I love you 1:09!!!!
Enough of the excuses!!!!
12:37, so should NYCFC vacate their results? Perhaps we should wait for some magical moment when all the best of the best of the best of the best decide they want to play? You need to spend more time (and money) on personal trainers for your daughter, since the ECNL season will be here soon.
P.S. No one is going to look at your comment and say, wow you’re right, they will see a bitter little person with a huge ax to grind, and that ax is still dull....
The one commonality I see in the posted DA scores is higher scoring. So no 0-0. 1-0. I believe the DA model is very smart, plays offensive minded and trying to score. If you score 2 or more goals in a typical match you will win. Especially if you are up 2-0. Soccer is a game that once you are up by 2 goals you can tighten defense and win games. And if it is 3-0 forget it, game over 99% of the time.
4:04, you are obviously soccer-savvy, and you know that if the other team does not pressure the GK she can basically stand there for quite and while and play pass to me with the back-line, its not pretty, but its good soccer.
Smart to play offensive minded? I kind of agree if it's offensive minded in a "chess" way. We need to teach our young players to play fast and relaxed soccer. We just can run up the field in a line looking for through balls that's bad soccer and only works vs weaker teams. When a team is organized on the defensive end and playing a counterattack game you need to know how to break them down. we lack that on both sides. We have skilled players, they just can't play chess which makes us very easy to defend.
I blame us parents for this - because we all love the fast attacking soccer and the coaches all look for players that can play this style. They don't look for soccer players that can play chess. Hopefully of the 70 GDA clubs they can find at least 1 per age group.
8:38 totally agree. many don't understand defense. i see coaches just plop players in the back as a default. stupid.
Ahhh yes, finally noticing the one of the big differences between ECNL and DA?? Clubs that can transition to a more technical and tactical style will be tough to beat. As I explained to an ECNL parent recently, DA is basically ECNL speed and toughness, but more cerebral....
So are you saying that kids that struggled in ECNL should not be playing GDA? I agree.
I have watched numerous DA games, nothing cerebral about the play or players.
Actually many players playing did not make ECNL teams in our area.
right Now ECNL still best option, DA about 5 years away from being top league. sorry
12:52 of the 70 or so clubs how many have you seen play and which ones?
What ECNL teams are in your area?
Don't know if I agree with ECNL as the best option,but that's your opinion and that's cool. I agree GDA will benefit the younger kids and in 5 years hands down the best league if not sooner.
12:47 define struggled? Are you saying players that played with first team and struggled (I agree) or girls that played a few minutes with reserves vs reserves? Big difference, I don't think you can judge the girls that played just a few minutes with reserves (not easy to play with a short leash with other non-1st team players).
11:48 good to read that they are making the girls think a few moves in advance. This is why I love the #6 player the most, if you have a good one that can move the ball to shift the other team around before she hits her attacking players. By now girls should understand their role and function in a unit with any player
3:03, i'm 12:47
your first option, girls that struggled with 1st team players in ECNL. Why not play ECNL and master it instead? It will help with confidence, too.
12:52 some areas have too many DA's like some other areas were flooded with ECNL teams. I don't agree with the best bet ECNL at least in my area. Most of the good players are playing GDA. But, every area is different. Will be interesting to see the evolution of the leagues as early as next year. The switches that take place.
3:03 agreed, but knowing your role and being able to execute with regularity is a huge difference. so the unit may still struggle as a result. not all kids are plug and play. some are just plug.
I have noticed the two DA games I watched that keepers do not punt the ball. they play out of the back, which is top 2 smartest things you do to play proper soccer and not rely on a 50/50 ball to win games. Also they do not kick and run. So you never hear a coach yelling "clear it, clear it". Or a coach saying "punt the ball" to his keeper. Those two things are damaging to a soccer players future, and yes parents are to blame along with coaches. but again I will say you do what you have to do in the end to win games, but clearing the ball and punting is a no no, and for sure DA is not doing this.
I agree, unless the other team is pressing your back-line, which some clubs just love to do (PF).... I leave it up to our GK, its her house.
Every game is different based on opponent. Same games you can roll ball out, some games you need to punt.
Example, you never roll ball out vs SO Cal Blues. High pressure with three tall, fast, skillful players.
A good team, good coach can do either one.
yes I agree, 5 years from now. younger kids will benefit.
Players born 2000,2001,2001,2003 personally will benefit in ECNL.
8:12 I disagree you want to roll the ball out so teams press b/c once you get out of your back it's game on with tons of space. But I do agree every week is different as far as tactical.
4:31 the one thing I hat the most is the goalie punting the ball, instead of keeping the ball they play a 50/50 I agree with 4:17. When you have the ball the other team can't score but you can. 4:17 i'm okay will playing direct if you can score in 2 touches why not,I don't care that it's called kick and run
September 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM
What is your keeper experience? My daughter is 2nd generation. And while I agree that punting is not always the answer I have to disagree with your dogmatic statement, I think you may have posted this before as well. I agree with the other poster who indicated that it is the keeper's choice, especially at this age. They have to read the field as well as the flow of play, sometimes under pressure a well placed punt can spring a fast forward if the keeper can read the other teams formation and back line. The keeper also can recognize the other keeper's tendencies and if a long ball from the back works to their advantage should play it. In games where a team is not pressing the keeper becomes an additional back, holding the ball at their feet and playing direct to maintain possession. I have also attended quite a few college games and you will see a fair amount of punts (both men's and women's) The bottom line is that with each play the keeper needs to make the decision on the best option.
It sounds like you may be the parent of a keeper who is not seeing time and critiquing the play of the current starter.
Well my little Susie is Hope Solo Jr. and she's the bomb!! Lol, you guys are funny!
8:54
agreed. a smart keeper knows what to do in various situations. and nothing is off the board as far as what to use in the tool bag when situations arise.
also agree about your conclusion. sounds like a deflated ball err i mean ego.
On another note, read an article about Kansas City in NWSL and it's financial woes. I thought the league was doing better and looking to expand.
9:39 - hilarious.
@8:54. no, more of a critique to coaches and teams that punt the ball all the time. Play the ball out of the back, keep the possession. Do not punt unless you have to. If the defender comes under pressure they can then kick the 50/50 ball.
@8:54. Being 2nd generation, wouldn't you agree the game has changed? When I played in the 70's and 80's, into early 90's we always punted, always. I really feel like only in last few years or so the keeper has become the most important player on the team, if they are good of course. Watch the German sweeper keepers, winning world cups. Also watch most pro and college games as the keeper is up high, communicating and organizing defense and really being the true 11th player. switching fields, and seeing the game. Hope Solo was really good at all that btw. And the Rutgers girl keeper Casey does this very well.
We are very lucky to have one of the best u17 Goalkeepers in this country, and yeah she does all of the above, but her greatest asset is her positive and encouraging personality, especially with the younger GK's.
2:36 PM
8:54 here. I agree wholeheartedly. I actually distributed more than most back in the late 80's. Thank goodness the position has evolved since then. My offense to the poster was a lot of non-keeper parents do not often see anything beyond a shot stopper. As a keeper and the parent of one I realize that playing from the back, utilizing the 11th player to control aspects of the game and be the eyes down field make than as important as the striker and CB. There is also a coaching dynamic that may not have a strong CM to direct traffic but a strong Forward or OB that can consistently win 50/50 balls. Again, having a strong, smart athletic keeper is valuable commodity, as evidenced by the interest I have seen for my daughter over the past few years.
you all ought to stop dissecting and analyzing all this. you're parents. you know nothing about the sport and anything you do know is from the 1980s. who gives a rats ass what you think. all that matters is what her coach thinks and what the next coach in her pyramid thinks. i read all this academy, ecnl, nonsense from clueless folk who pretend to know the sport and know the landscape, as if ANYONE could tell you the landscape years from now. has it ever struck you that in your self-proclaimed wisdom you might just have it wrong! that you might be dead inaccurate about the best leagues, best teams, your own kids status (good or bad), whether punting or not punting makes sense. I'm sur eyou're aware a little known team called Barcelona rarely punts, and rarely serves up corners. while another fairly unknown squad called real madrid loves punts and loves corners and serving balls into the path of monster athletes like bale, #7, Benzema.
Point is...go spend time worrying about your kids education, what classes she's taking, what her grades are, her community service.
This site atleast is fun and funny when you're bagging on each other on the coaches . The minute it gets all serious about the tactics of play...its throw up material.
Okay Pep, will try not to talk about soccer again, how about Cricket?? Now that game is very under-rated, and its great for tailgating, lots of drunk wankers like yourself in attendance, telling anyone who will listen, that they don’t know anything about soccer, Go Man City!!
3:55 you are correct about funny and you are the joke as you are the only one who is taking any of this seriously. All I see is a bunch of parents shooting the breeze about soccer at their kids level and some others that have nothing better to do than trying to find a hot topic and since it annoys you i add my opinion below
#1 player on the field is the #6 (the quarterback)
#2 player on the field is the #10 (the star running back)
#3/4 players on the field are the CB (Strong,Fearless and Fast)
#5 player on the field is the GK
#6-11 are all role players.
All contribute to the success of the team the decades may have changed but the game is still played the same way my friend.
While I get your post chill man this is just a board talking about girls youth soccer not the rocket man and how close we are to life changing.
4:20, I disagree, the most important player is the player with the ball....
One of the top 20 or so, 2:42
Hahaha, top 20......you have no clue, but that's okay, neither does your President.
355 is just a loser, obviously, just a complete loser. I back and agree with 420 a about 355. It is a shame you have posters like 355 that really ruin this board. probably same person who says watching DA games is strange. Thanks to other posters for great conversation.
Finally we have a TRUE President..
3:55 is probably a coach who punts all the time and wants to start trouble all the time
not 355 but thank you 420 for making her point! shooting the breeze!! thank you for laying out the field positions and position#s. i bet you're the parent who sits on the sidelines saying stuff like "man, i wish she would drop deeper, she's really playing more like a 6 than 4 or a 5! dang her SHES A 5!!! not a 6!!!! "
thank you for shooting the breeze.
5:02, cannot tell if you're being nice, if not, you should try harder. I think your point was let the coaches coach, the players play, and the parents keep quiet. Those points he made are all valid, but most would not voice them out loud, more under-the-breath stuff. If you're daughter is playing DA right now, just enjoy the ride, life is stressful enough, let this be a pleasant distraction, cheers!!
FC FURY 11
LISC 0
Great to see a nice close game!
5:02 I wouldn't be a fan if I didn't.
PS. bad example with your 4, 5 & 6s though. You do know the 4 & 5s are CBs, right and the 6 is right in front of them? Your dig would have made more sense if you said the 10 was dropping to far back.
I think the poster ran out of toes when counting. lol
CEDAR STAR , what a great team ! LOL
Sad that no one posts here anymore, this use to be a welcomed distraction. Miss the insults, name calling, and stupid predictions, those were good times, sigh.
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