10:31 so you are saying the coaches only go to ECNL events? How big is your database per graduation year? How many events do you got?
lat post was for 9:53 and 10:31
Not even 1 Wildcats player going to Cedar stars or PDA.
College coaches typically go to watch "their players". The players who have expressed interest and who they might be interested in or who are comitted. They will see kids who are not committed and express interest (happens more earlier in the process) but for the most part it is to see players they are already aware of. If your kid is tier 3 with few committments on her team, unlikely to get many coaches at your game. Coaches don't have enough time to be wandering to find the diamond in the rough. Colleges do send multiple coaches to events because chances are they have multiple players in multiple age brackets playing at or close to the same time. How close you are to graduating/fitting into their line-up and how imprtant of a recruit she is normally determines which coach shows up (HC vs AC1, 2, 3).
A few years ago i had a kid play in the "showcase" level of u15 ECNL. They averaged about 60 top level coaches per game. More early in the week. There were no committed kids on the team. The team wasn't very good, but they had a couple top level kids on the team. maybe that was the draw. But there were many coaches from top 50 schools there at more than one game even to see a "poor" team. The flight doesn't matter at these events. the age groups and the presence of a couple name players are the biggest draws.
11:33 & 12:42 my question is simple -we are talking 9/10 graders.How big is a coaches db per grad year? 500? 750? 1000? 1500? 2000?If the coach has these many players in "their db" How many are they seeing at one event? How many events do they attend in a year? Do they just write off kids?10:31 am I write when I say you go see as many kids as you can at all the big showcases/championship events maybe 10-20 or more? Throw in your ID clinics and that's your real db that you trim to 6 or 7? What does a kid have to do besides emailing you to get you there? I doubt you only shop at ECNL events or maybe you do.
PS my grammar is horrible!!I'm sure if you get these types of a mistakes in an invite letter you trash it right away.
You wroat good. Dont' wurry abou't it?
1:51 PM A College coach will target specific players that are a match for their program. High level D1 programs are sometimes competing for the same players and their lists are full of NT pool kids. So at the highest level you may see a few top D1 coaches at the sidelines of the same games at U15/U16. As a side note parents commenting on this blog about "60 D1 Coaches at my daughter's U15 game) is most likely the result of 1 or 2 players, so check the roster of the other team if your team does not have a top ranked player. And the coaches are there to see that specific player, not to find the diamond in the rough. The reason the number of coaches dwindle at the older ages is top talent is usually committed by sophomore year. Some of the coaches will stop by games at U17/U18 to "Check-in" on players. The next tier on the coaches list is based on players who have interest in the college and have peaked the coaches interest as well. If you do the math based on any given weekend showcase a coach can get to maybe 2 games an hour so conservatively 10 games a day. but their list is specific (and not generated from any of the listing services). As far as writing kids off, I do think there are lower level programs that shine kids on and do not cut them loose. I have seen instances where kids are still getting invites to ID events at specific schools long after the recruiting for their graduating year is full for that school. This I think is more the fault of the automated email systems than it is a direct oversight by the coach. I also have not seen that a college coach will cut a player loose, they usually just stop responding or send out the kind, "Thank you for your interest but we have completed our recruiting for 20XX".
Each kid is writing letters to 5-7 coaches so just some simple math says in excess of 60 coaches easy for a game even with overlap, etc... U15 there aren't many commits but they will go see those who have expressed interest. Brackets arent everything but if you are playing third bracket you are most likely not getting looks from the top programs. D3 maybe. There are exceptions but no D1 college is just stumbling by a third level bracket in hopes of finding a kid, that just does not happen.At these showcases the coaches are trying to watch 15, 16 & 17's. Probably watching 15-20 serious players each grad year with the hopes of landing 5-7 for that incoming class (say 50 total). Roughly 2 coaches per college so if you split them up each coach is probably watching 25 partial games every day. If you guess they are watching 10 min of each game they are watch 4-5 hours of soccer. They just don't have time to wander around.
@3:41 and I have different math but get to the same point. College coaches are not wasting their time identifying anyone who hasn't expressed interest.Some big NT names can increase the draw but it's more out of curiousity than anything because those players go quick.
60 coaches at one game?At PDA event?Too funny.And no - the "math" does not say that 60 will come becuase each kid emailed 5-7 coaches. (Likely each kid did not, by the way)Enjoy the rideStop the madness with the extreme talkBe happy for others doing it a completely different wayPeace and safety, all.
Maybe your kids did not because they know no one is going come watch crap tier 3 games but yes kids do and yes 60 coaches come to these games. Generally 45-60. Three showcases this year and three last year, highest was 64, lowest was 45. Average was low 50's and I believe most ECNL parents can attest to it. And my daughter has played both National League and ECNL. No comparison and that is supposed to be the most comparable league.Madness? Madness is disputing facts you know nothing about. Your little snowflake is not getting found in her tier 3 kick and run games. Now if you werent so hostile you
Continued.......might open your eyes, do some research and find out the truth. It's liberating. Question now is whether the GDA does the same to ECNL that ECNL did to USYSA?
5:51 our 2001 ECNL team had 70 coaches for one of our games in Sanford and 50 plus for our first and last games. We had 40 plus for our first two games at PDA and 20 on Monday. We also saw big numbers at CASL too. All you need to do is go to an ECNL event and you will see. FC Bucks, Penn Fusion and Continental all had big numbers at their games and all have a good number of committed 2019 players. It has always been this way since the start of the ECNL. It will drop off now with the GDA.
ahhhh. there ya go40 is even a bit much but closer to trueThanks for clearing that up.6:28 - you are exhibit A for what I said - "be happy for those doing it a different way".Best of luck with the decision on a school. Biggest choice of her pre-marriage life - other than whether or not to drink/do drugs and to go out with that dude from the mall behind your back.
Did PAC Boys' DA not make the playoffs? Is that true? wow
10:18 - why do you care how many coaches? Clearly you or your team wasn't there. Otherwise, you would see for yourself. May want to just go and watch at one of these tourneys. They are amazing.
You may want to take your question to the boys blog. Doubtful many care here.
10:24Look at the standings. They don't lie.You're either trolling, love or hate classicsYes these will be similar results when the girls program takes off.Happy?
Continental Parent here. Ah, no there are NEVER 60 College coaches at one of our showcase games. I think someone is confusing parents wearing their Alma Mater hats/hoodies as a coach. We get lists as parents after every game and the most at a single game is between 15-25. Not to burst any bubbles but setting the record straight. Each pre season we have a coaches showcase at PG against another top club (with merger rumors last year it was PF and the year before it was PAC)- Mostly local schools but that reaches about 50 coaches. And the statement about many 2019s from Continental, Bucks and Fusion having commits... Maybe looks/interest but not commits.
7:56 is NOT a CFC parent, at least not at this age. That or they have no clue about the team their daughter is on. 4 of their starters are in fact committed D1. Georgetown, Army, Pitt. Numerous showcase games 50-70 coaches. PDA 40, 40, 20 sounds about right. I would guess teams with a better record or NT prospects fared even better. Not sure why someone feels the need to come on here and lie about a team they are not involved with.
756 is a Liar.There are a quite a few 2019 commits at PF -Duke, Northwestern, Dartmouth (2), Tennessee, Lafayette. There were over 70 coaches at a single game in Sanford. There was a "name" or 2 2019 who were uncommitted who may have drawn some, but there were quite a few there to see some other impact uncommitted 2019s. They will be there in Chicago too. Same with the 00 2019s. Long lists lots of opportunity
BS!!!I was at PDA this year and we only had 4 coaches standing in the corner.We were relegated to the "off site" fields so they could take our money but not showcase us to D1 schools.70 Coaches MY A$$
WOW. Get your daughter on a better team if you want her seen. Sounds like you are not an ECNL or NPL team. Town team or C-level academy team at best? I bet she starts and plays every second too. Try moving up, sorry not good enough.NO LETTER = NO COMMITTU-16s can't commit to anything yet. Talk only and talk is cheep!
True, everything is verbal but rarely do either side pull out prior to signing day.
I didn't believe it either until my daughter joined an ecnl team. Stand outside in cynical disbelief all you want, just more exposure for my kid.
There is no requirement for the coaches to be spread equally at every game, sorry. You got 4, others got 40 and still others had over 60. You don't hear the 40's calling BS on the 60's because they know it happens....all of the time. If you only had 4 coaches then you ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE, can't you see that? Unless your daughter is comitted then it's irrelevant. Is it easier to stick your head in the sand and say it doesn't exist then to accept that different levels, teams, events, get different levels of interest? I can confirm 50+ coaches at our first two ECNL showcase games, I wasn't at the last one and I deleted the email list with the numbers. Day 3 so I am guessing there significanlty less. Also there is never 50 at one time because they come and go and rarely stay longer than 10-15 minutes. When the volunteer hands out the player profiles they take the coaches name and we get a list afterwards so the player can write a "thank you" if they asked a coach to come watch. Don't hate the facts, they are what they are.
Except for jealousy, envy, vicariously living through your daughter, arrogance, pomposity, trolling and just plain bs...what are any of you gaining by lying or over-inflating the facts about college coach numbers at games?How old is everyone posting? Sounds like middle school aged at best.I've seen games with 5-10 and I've seen games with 30-50, end of story!
Again we don't stand on the sidelines and take a head count, our parents hand out player profiles to the coaches attending and get their names. We get a list of those coaches. And I can tell you for a fact they miss some so those numbers are actually higher.
Repeating the same posts about low or high numbers doesn't make them true or not...stop with the regurgitation. Who cares? If it's true to your story then let it go!!!
If you have 4 coaches watching and you get interest from a school that you WANT TO attend (howver you generated that interest) - and it leads to your attending that school - then you are NOT in the wrong place.Accept others doing it differently.ECNL volume can work well. But not the be all and end all...Frankly I like the ECNL for the level of play rather than the exposure.
Funny how it went down at pda this year. Last year there was a flight of mixed ecnl and non ecnl teams and the results showed that some of the non ecnl teams are just as strong. This year pda did not do that because they are trying to keep ecnl as happy as possible with the slap in the face of DA. Coaches were more plentiful in the two main venues regardless of what league you played in. THAT is a fact. So it wasn't about league it was about where these coaches could see the most prospects. Ecnl didn't last as the top level because they wouldn't allow some top teams in. Like it or not that is the truth. DA may end up succeeding in finally creating a league of elite players,but it won't be for a few years. As has been stated on here many times unfortunately for our girls they got caught in the crosshairs of all of these changes.
Ahhh there it is. Know how you've won an arguement? The other side starts name calling. You can't convince someone who cannot accept facts. You've seen 30-50? Math lesson, 30-50 > 4.
I'll jump in here...why is anyone trying to win an argument?What's wrong with just telling your factual experience?In other words, telling the truth, your experience.
@10:37 so all of your kids are being recruited by those 4 coaches? Maybe not the 1 kid being looked at but for the majority, they are in the wrong place. I absolutely accept you can do it differently, just some ways are easier then the others, that was the only point. The more coaches attending, the higher chance of getting seen and I do concede volume is not the be all end all.@10:49 I don't believe that is why the ECNl is no longer the top. USSF is trying to emulate the European academies that train 10 months a year with less games and more meaningful games. If anything the ECNL got too watered down and had too many games against lesser competition. It is true that not all the best teams are in the ECNL, but most are. It would be nice to see the national champs played by top of NL vs top of ECNL.
Top coaches will go to where the best players are. National team members got gobbled up by U-13. So for us it is ECNL/NPL this year and DA next year. College coaches will mainly focus their time at DA events next year because they don't want to miss on next new thing. Best players or not, US Soccer will get their way!There is still a ton of other colleges who need their ranks filled. ECNL will continue to be the avenue of others. PDA will only have 10,000 coaches at their next ECNL event, you will see.However, PDA will have 30,000 coaches at their DA regular season home games!!!
At PDA at all the decent ECNL games there were 30+ coaches for this age I'd guess (Did not count). Much fewer coaches at the younger ages, as you would expect. Did not see any U17 games, but I would guess those games had a ton of coaches as well.
Problem is the GDA is starting too watered down and will likely add from there. And if the USSF is emulating the Europeans, it's the men's programs. Not withstanding the fact that doing so on the boys side for 10 years has shown little to no improvement in our world standing, it ignores the fact the girls and boys are different. There is not and never will be $ in women's sports. To the vast majority of these girls playing in college, either for a school they couldnt afford, or getting an education at a school they couldn't quite get into with their grades is the ultimate goal. The ECNL was built to facilitate just that. The GDA will not only be a train wreck but will damage the future of us women's. soccer. The USSF saw $$$ and couldn't give a crap about 99% of the kids playing.
Don't bash it just because you aren't on it. We can't drive that far and hope south jersey (RUSH/SJEB maybe??) get a DA and we will jump as fast as we can. I am jealous of the GDA and see the writing on the wall.Our only saving grace is that this will have little to no effect on our age group. If we were younger I would be nervous.ECNL is the one getting watered down. Where do you think the DA girls are coming from. I personally know two who plan on making the long drive up.
11:34 is just a PDA mom trying to start trouble don't bite.
I own a limo/shuttle company and we were contacted by PDA for next year.They expect 43,000 coaches that will need to be shuttled from 118 hotels all across region 1. And the application fee to get in will only be $3200 to cover all our fees.Christy will personally make sure all the bridges stay open to any vehicle or shuttle with a PDA roof sign. You will have priority that weekend.
U15 list from last year at SanfordWingate Univeristy (Coach Peter Trask), St Louis Univeristy (Coach Vince Gentile), Mississippi State University (Coach Phil Casella), Providence College (Coach Sam Lopes), University of Wisconsin (coach Kristen Weiss), Drexel University (Coach Ray Goon), University of Pittsburgh (Coach Ileana Moschos), Western Kentucky Universtiy (Coach Will Bedding), University of Missouri (Coach Brian Blitz), Penn State Univeristy (Coach Tim Wassell), Fordham (Coach Kim Miller), Florida Gulf Coast Univesity (Coach Ben Boehner), Baylor University (Coach Chuck Codd), Iowa State University (Coach Tony Minatta and Coach Megan Kerns), University of Wisconsin (Coach Paula Wilkins), Lasalle University (Coach Ally Nick), Colorado State University (Coach Kelly Labor), University of Delaware (Coach Rachel Chupein), University of Pennsylvania, Lehigh University (Coach Eric Lambinus), West Virginia University, Virginia Tech (Coach Drew Kopp), University of Indiana, Towson Univeristy (Coach Greg Paytner), Syracuse Univesity (Coach Neel Bhattacharjee), Xavier Universtiy, University of New Hampshire (Coach Steve Welham), High Point Univeristy (Coach Kelly Grant and Coach Marty Beall) , Florida Atlantic University (Coach Jordan Reppell), Boston College, Georgetown University (Coach Lyndse Hokanson), Grand Valley State (Coach Jeff Hosler), University of Cincinnati (Coach Matt Cosinuke), University of Maryland, Baltimore County (Coach Leslie Wray), University of Miami (Coach Kate Dylag), University of Illinois (Coach Allie Osmundson), Bowling Green University (Coach Marsha Harper), Dartmouth University (coach Ron Rainey)
Finally, someone who is telling the truth.
Handy Youth Soccer Talk Conversion Chart:1. DA = Elitist2. ECNL = Jealous3. Region 1 League = Not good enough4. Town Team = Scum of the Earth5. Coach = Always subs wrong6. Parent = Best scout of other kids non-talent7. DOC = Corrupt8. Referee = Always makes call for other team (even at home game)9. Soccer = Poor person sport everywhere but good old USA10. New Jersey = Kick and run11. Ney York = Wish they were from Jersey12. Pennsylvania = Lie and Cheat13. Player = The one with over use injuries who is burned out14. Blogger = Well informed soccer community member
haha love itCan I please steal this?Don't yo have a copy and paste coaches list to share with us?
If I were a college coach and wanted to put a GDA showcase on my schedule for next season, where would I look.
PDA PDA PDA PDA
ECNLu17 = 5u16 = 4U15 = 1Non-ECNLu17 = 3u16 = 2U15 = 318 Total Games per time slot300 Coaches~16 per game.So what are they watching like 10 minutes per game if some games were getting 60 and everybody was getting 30?
12:15Only set location is Florida in early December. Other ones move around, Indiana, Texas etc...
On US Soccer web page: http://www.ussoccerda.com/college-coach-scout-check-inCollege Coach & Scout Registration The registration to receive a hard copy version of the 2017 U.S. Soccer Development Academy Summer Showcase and Playoffs roster book (one per person) is here. Once you reserve a hard copy of the book, those can be picked up at the College Coach and Scout Check-in tent located in Lot E near the DA Headquarters upon your arrival to the event. The list of all registered college coaches for this year's Summer Showcase and Playoffs will also be posted here on ussoccerda.com by June 14, 2017. Event updates will be shared via the Development Academy Website, Facebook, Twitter,and Instagram social media channels throughout the Showcase. If you have any questions, please email us at firstname.lastname@example.org. The U.S. Soccer Development Academy has partnered with Coach Packet to provide an easier, more efficient way to recruit. Coach Packet puts the rosters, schedule, and video online and on your mobile device, allowing you to access side by side rosters on the sideline or off the field. Following the event, video of every game will be added to Coach Packet, allowing you to recruit virtually for any games you may have missed or want to review. To set up your free Coach Packet account for online access to the event schedule and game rosters, click here. More information will also be available at the Development Academy College Coach Check-in tent.Girls DA Showcase info will follow this same format.
"Early December" eh? OK, what dates and what city? And if the others move around, fine, I'm sure it's set for next year, right? Where is it and when?
If you're a college coach then you should have your connections for that info no?December 2-3And Disney showcase dates are changing so you should be good after ECNL
Disney is already changed...Event:Nov. 23-26, 2017Registration Opens:NowRegistration Deadline:Aug. 15, 2017
3 huge reasons kids not running to DA, who are very good and would probably make the huge roster!- Cannot play High School- Tons of travel for 14/15/16 year old kids who have to get up at 6am, do homework. Many of the DI schools want very, very high academics with the soccer in tow. They ask for transcripts first and if not top of class, all A's and Ap or honor courses just forget it. DO NOT sacrifice education for soccer.- Why leave a great situation at ECNL or NPL where you play majority of game and take chances to sit, or split as a keeper, or split center back position or whatever. At least not this first season for sure.
Only 2 days? So flying to Florida for 2 games? Or if you are on the bottom of the roster 1 game? Is that right? It would be one thing if it were winter break and you could at least make a vacation out of it.
You are absolute correct.Don't challenge yourself with difficult situations and decisions.Don't push yourself for huge reward when you can just cruse by in mediocrity.Don't try for academic and athletic success. Overcoming changeling situations will never set you up for success in life.Failure in a challenging situations doesn't build character and will never set you up for the real world.Let your kid play rec where everybody gets medals...
Because there are only 2 choices GDA & rec.
Your kids going to play half her games against teams Cedar Stars, PA Classics, Loudon(VDA), Empire United, and whatever teams The Washington Spirit manage to assemble with the rec clubs they are associated with and you think it's my kid who's not challenging herself? Ha, enjoy those 9-0 wins, or 0-9 loses if you happen to be with one of those teams.
I agree the DA won't be very consistent level next year. It may take time to build. But the ECNL will similarly be faced with inconsistency unfortunately for the kids caught in the crossfire.@1229 Where do you get 300 coaches. many colleges send more than 1 coach and there are 3 divisions. the top programs don't register with the tournament. They aren't inviting emails of kids they aren't interested in. Sorry but that's true. They know whom they are going to see way before the tournament date
None of these teams will be the same next year. So much movement between clubs and within clubs. Coaches moving too. If you are sure your team is staying the same, that is because you are not being told the truth. Wait till next season and then you will see who your real friends are. Good thing is now #9 and #10 are freed up for your kid to wear.
Maybe I am just being optimistic, but I think the NE ECNL will benefit from the GDA at least as far as leveling out the quality of the teams. The weakest club WNY Flash is out and being replaced by Bethesda and MDU. And PDA and FC Stars, consistently top clubs will be sending their B teams which themselves are on the level of many of the other clubs A teams right now. I think EM and WC teams may struggle as there's not enough talent on the island to field 2 elite teams per age non the less 3 but I would expect most of the games next year to be pretty close. And while The GDA will no doubt field the top teams, the disparagy between the those top teams and the bottom will be embarrassing.
Sorry, meant EM & Albertson.
10:49 drop the conspiracy theories. Maybe this year those non-ecnl teams are actually ecnl, now. And, maybe those ecnl teams had already completed their required showcase/national event attendances (only 2 needed) so games didn't count for or against league standings. It was the place to be and if you were there, congrats.
The level isn't consistent now with ECNL?! FC Bucks is comparable to PDA?? I'd like to see McLean play Continental. Look what So Cal did to PF 2 months ago!
Not taking anything away from FC Bucks, but i heard from PDA parents that they had kids not there due to SAT's and other things. having the same issues with our team, i understood completely.
But would be interesting, though, McLean. Didn't Continental play East Meadow on Sunday in a 5-1 loss. Was surprised.
McLean beat CFC at CASL 3-1 EM beat CFC in Sunday 1-0
Yeah and Albertson just smoked them 5-1.Help me understand something - how does playing in the showcase flight help these players playing vs other bad teams to land a college? Isn't it the same thing as being at a low flight at Jefferson? Has the narrative now changed that the flight really doesn't matter? just being at the event is what's needed or has it always been this way and posters just liked to say that being in the top flight is all that mattered to make themselves feel good?
As with most posts, you need to sift out bits of truth in the middle of much bs.No doubt highest bracket will attract most college coaches. However...this is mostly important if your kid is NOT communicating/inviting/emailing coaches prior to showcases.If that communication is there, then the coaches will come watch your kid whatever bracket he/she is in.Does your kid get noticed by other coaches just by being in top bracket? Yes of course but this not the end of story as many posters will make you think.
Coaches go to watch specific players not random teams. Not saying the flight is irrelevant but my daughter has 6 schools coming to watch her and not one asked which flight she is in. Most ecnl players simply play for the closest ecnl club, most do not have the luxury of having multiple clubs within a reasonable driving distance to chose from. You will find great players even on teams with poor records.
11:25 AM Here is my take for the end of year ECNL "Championships" It provides a couple of incentives. 1) Champions level is just that the teams that accumulated the best records competing to crown a champion, incentive for teams to compete at a high level during the season. 2) it provides an additional showcase event for players to be seen in a central location. As far as College coaches sticking to the Championship flight for scouting purposes, I believe that is fake news. COLEEGE COACHES WANT TO SEE PLAYERS WHO WANT TO GO TO THEIR SCHOOLS. Yes it is possible that a coach will see a player who may catch their eye and reach out to see if their is reciprocal interest. But Players in lower flights who reach out to a coach WILL get the interest at least initially (U16) and will keep it if they perform will in any flight. To me that is the only "diamond in the rough" scenario - the myopic Top Flight parents need to realize that lower flight teams have players as capable as your darlings and Schools will watch them and make them offers.
Who doesn't want to go to nearly every power 5 if they are willing to go away from home anyway. They are all great schools.Sure there are tiersLike Duke, ND, UVA, UNC, Stanford, UCLA, Then Berkley, Michigan, Penn State, Northwestern, FLorida, and onBut any of the power 5s are great schools. Most if not all have honors colleges, and on the educational front what the kid makes of them. I would be thrilled if my kid went to any one of them.
Oh plus they all guarantee scholarships all 4 years
HahaKool aid drinking anyone?
You need to realize that much of this process has to do with the efforts of the players reaching out to the college coach and having a well connected club coach helping with the process. Often the club coach develops the recruitment for their players. Girls playing at the ECNL Showcase in Chicago will get big numbers of coaches out to see them play, regardless of the flight. Recruiting is not random, it's developed over time by formulating relationships with college coaches.
my kid isn't going P-5, has 4 yr guarantee. It's what you negotiate.
Too many want quick results. Fast food mentality.You have to look long termVery true 1:52
16-U GIRLS (2001s):with Youth Soccer Rankings scoreTo me this proves this tool is very accurate, ECNL scores have a higher value and since they play each otherif the games are close the values are close and will remain it will also separate the better teams and put the rest of the teams in the same category as the top Non-ECNL teams. I also listed the qualified NPL teams to show they are equal to the North American/Showcase teams and the actual player pool for the colleges is vast and some of these schools haven' t seen many player's interested in their program that will be equal or better than the players they are seeing at this event if they are looking at the North American/Showcase flights since this age group is filled with freshman. So what exactly is the long term value?2017 ECNL NorthAmerican Qualifiers37.21 FC Virginia ECNL U1636.91 Vardar ECNL U1636.85 Match Fit Academy ECNL U1636.80 Dallas Texans ECNL U1636.64 SC Del Sol ECNL U1636.60 Lonestar SC ECNL U1636.54 Challenge SC ECNL U1636.34 Albertson SC ECNL U1636.30 Arsenal FC ECNL U1636.28 Richmond United ECNL U1636.10 Maryland United FC ECNL U1635.85 Birmingham United ECNL U1635.59 Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U1635.45 Colorado Rush ECNL U1635.32 CASL ECNL U1635.24 FC Portland ECNL U162017 ECNL Showcase Qualifiers36.62 World Class FC ECNL U1636.49 Eagles Soccer Club ECNL U1636.45 San Juan SC ECNL U1636.22 Sporting Blue Valley ECNL U1636.18 FSA FC ECNL U1635.96 Internationals SC ECNL U1635.88 Crossfire United ECNL U1635.72 FC Wisconsin Eclipse ECNL U1635.57 Sereno Soccer Club ECNL U1635.51 Heat FC ECNL U1635.47 Pleasanton Rage ECNL U1635.27 Seattle Reign ECNL U1635.18 East Meadow SC ECNL U1635.09 Colorado Storm ECNL U1635.08 Weston FC ECNL U1634.88 Boca United FC ECNL U162017 NPL Finals qualified teams38.03 Davis Legacy SC37.05 Lonestar '01 Red36.65 NJ Wildcats Fury35.79 MSC Lakers '01 Elite35.77 Santa Monica United '0135.57 Campton United SC35.33 Tucson Soccer Academy35.21 IMG Academy34.85 Virginia Rush33.50 ISC Gunners
good stuff. however, just looked and YSR doesn't include all ECNL games such as ones this past weekend at least from NE conference. Other conferences may have been updated or finished before this weekend. so not as accurate as thought to be. aren't numbers are based on amount of games, too. so if you play more, you get more. which is the case in most USYS leagues. Kind of GSPish, although takes out the bonus stuff to pad numbers, too.Not sure if all NPL games are up to date, either.Let's circle back to this, i guess.
157 the point is that ALL P5 offers are 4 years. Its required. Some mid majors also require 4 year guarantees , some as you said can be negotiated, but ALL P5 offers are guaranteed. They actually have some independence from the NCAA and make some of their own rules like to COA allowance...
mwahhhhh wahhhhhhhhyeah, we get it, pal
yep and when they tire of you, don't play you and force you out, then the guarantee out the window. heard about those as well. had p-5 offers, turned down. but appreciate it.
6:18 - funny
6:41 - there is a very broad range from the top to the bottom in those conferences like any other conference. point is i would not suggest to go vanity plate shopping unless that is what fits your kid; regardless of the guarantee. Or you could just be collecting hoodies from different schools. but to each his/her own.
Is there a higher transfer rate out of p5 schools for soccer players than mid majors? You make it sound like its common knowledge that it is.
3:45 it will - sometimes it takes a few days and remember these are feeds from multiple data sources. Numbers aren't based on the number of games more the result. for example:when PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL [37.66] plays MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC [36.83] they are favorite to win by 0.83 goals. If they win by 2 their score goes up if they lose by 2 their score goes down. The scores are dynamic so every time one score is adjusted all the teams they played is also adjusted.Actually the USYS teams are hurt with Youth Soccer rankings as most teams are a 35 or 36 so for them to climb up to a 38 or 39 they need to win every game by 3 or 4 goals for them to climb up the charts or they need to play ECNL teams which they can't. If you look at the ECNL scores most of them are 37 and 38 for the good teams so a 1 or 2 goal win won't change much when they play each other.So when SJEB RUSH ACADEMY [36.60] played BETHESDA SC ECNL [36.99] and won 2-0 their score went up and Bethesda went down. since the game was a push. Same when SJEB played ALBERTSON SC ECNL [36.32] this game was a push also and since they tied 2-2 both teams remained the same.No bonus points for playing a ton of games. Just ECNL teams with a high weight as top of the pyramid to start the season - now the result speaks for it self.6:52 why do all the schools put their club or HS team accolades in the player profiles if they mean nothing?
YSR has its minor issues but much better than GS no dooubt
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9:30 - that would be some good info to learn. i heard some stories too and those schools definitely ruled out without a look as a result.
Hey 8:17 don't start a bad thing...let's keep it anonymousMia's dad
Region 1 TOP 10 ECNL teams39.41 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)39.35 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)39.10 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) 38.04 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ)38.02 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE) 37.57 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) 37.42 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)37.40 BETHESDA SC ECNL (MD)  37.02 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ) 36.98 ALBERTSON SC ECNL (NYE) Region 1 TOP 10 Non-ECNLteams37.33 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA)37.08 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)36.89 PRINCETON SA NPL (NJ)36.88 SUSA FC NPL (NYE)36.86 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL (CT) 36.86 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 16U SELECT (NYW) 36.60 PREMIER SC NAVY (MD)36.52 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY 0 (VA)36.47 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)36.44 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) Anything under 0.50 is a push.#1 ECNL favorite by 1.39 vs #5 ECNL#1 ECNL favorite by 2.08 vs #1 Non-ECNL#1 ECNL favorite by 2.43 vs #10 ECNL#1 ECNL favorite by 2.55 vs #5 Non-ECNL#1 ECNL favorite by 2.97 vs #10 Non-ECNL#5 ECNL favorite by 0.69 vs #1 Non-ECNL#5 ECNL favorite by 1.04 vs #10 ECNL#5 ECNL favorite by 1.16 vs #5 Non-ECNL#10 ECNL underdog by 0.35 vs #1 Non-ECNL#10 ECNL favorite by 0.12 vs #5 Non-ECNL#10 ECNL favorite by 0.54 vs #10 Non-ECNL
ECNL#1 SO CAL BLUES ECNL (CAS) 39.69#5 FC DALLAS ECNL (TXN) 38.83#10 SOLAR SC CHELSEA ECNL (TXN) 38.05National League#1 NATIONALS UNION BLACK (MI) 38.20#5 LEGENDS FC ACADEMY (CAS) 37.28#10 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 16U SELECT (NYW) 36.86Under 0.50 is a push#1 ECNL favorite by 1.49 vs #1 NL#5 ECNL favorite by 0.43 vs #1 NL#10 ECNL underdog by 0.15 vs #1 NL#1 ECNL favorite by 2.41 vs #5 NL#5 ECNL favorite by 1.55 vs #5 NL#10 ECNL underdog by 0.77 vs #5 NL#1 ECNL favorite by 2.83 vs #10 NL#5 ECNL favorite by 1.97 vs #10 NL#10 ECNL underdog by 1.19 vs #10 NL#1 NL favorite by 0.92 vs #5 NL#1 NL favorite by 1.34 vs #10 NL#5 NL favorite by 0.42 vs #10 NL
Hey rainman - may want to take your probability assessments to vegas or closer to atlantic city. put me down for some $$$
Yeah, gotsoccer put me in the poor house - youth soccer rankings has made me win it back to break even :)Seriously, the reason I showed this was to show that there really isn't much of a difference once you remove the top say 10 teams in the country @ 18 players per team x 10 = 180 current freshman/sophmores. The ECNL events are nice because you have all those teams in one place but by no means do those players have an advantage on any Non-ECNL player. There is quality all over the states - it just comes down to being good and showing well when the spotlight is on you
agreed. however, the advantage in the ECNL is that is where the coaches go. like it or not. and, that is the ultimate goal.
Next season the might ECNL will be second to the DA.PDA PDA PDA PDA PDA PDA
And therein lies the problem " the ultimate goal". When my daughter first laced up her cleats at 7 I told her this was to get her to play in college, not to have fun and be active etc. Much like when I sent her off to kindergarten. The ultimate goal was not the education and the experience but getting her accepted into Harvard.
mine too. see you there.
6;58 why is that term "ultimate goal" a problem? aren't most kids playing at this age in particular in high competitive soccer trying to play in college as well? very, very few are playing just for fun at this level anymore. even multi-sport kids had to pick one by now, sadly.
My daughter plans to play in college but she is enjoying the ride and each game. She is happy and nervous at the big events where there are coaches but she truly loves to play. So it's not exactly her " ultimate goal" so much as a nice opportunity that she has, given the high level she has worked hard and been fortunate to play at.
And this is exactly what colleges coaches struggle with. They want the players that love to play and compete... not the ones whose entire goal was to use soccer to get into/pay for college. Those kids that don't truly love it hurt their college programs.
3:55 - i doubt there are many of those out there. this game is too physical on the body to think that is what a large majority of kids are doing, in particular at the higher levels. there is still a love for the game, too. most coaches in my kid's recruiting process as far as college didn't just make a one a done evaulation, either, to get a real feel of the kid's desire and heart. now, with the rigors and demands of college being what it is as far as academics and athletics (it's like having two jobs at once; having had older college scholar athletes), that can test a kid's love for the game and that college as well. so the love of the sport may still be there, but the inability to juggle all of the high pressure demands can become too crushing.
understood. and welcome to the reality of coaches that aren't coaching multiple teams to pay their bills. this is it, one team, one goal, to win. their job depends on it. and if you don't perform, your playing time or longevity with the team depends on it. and professors who don't give a rat's butt that you are an athlete, too as far as assignments and tests.real life 101.
PDA parents must be on vacation without wifi or cell connection...
No, they just started their summer jobs to pay the crazy prices that PDA demands. I hear they charges $5,000 not counting travel expenses, winter league, or uniforms. While other PDA players play for free. Is this true?
@2:36, here is what I can tell you about all of this. Clubs will reduce costs or allow players to play for free if it makes the team or club better. You never hear about this because the parents or player is not going to reveal this and cause problems. it is done behind closed doors and in the end benefits everyone. Goal Keepers or a great Center back or forward may get this for example. or even a great center mid
It benefits everyone except the parents who pay extra to cover the cost of the free rides. The money is coming from somewhere.Let's use PDA at $5,000 per player example with 4 girls getting a free ride on a 24 player roster. If everyone was to pay the same it would only cost $4,166.66 per family.Who would ever want to pay over $800 to support another family. Especially when the kid shows up to practice in a Lexus and you are working two jobs.
Lmao...complete garbage. There are kids who receive scholarships or some form of assistance but it is not picked up by the other parents. And tuition is not $5,000. People who aren't happy with their station in life are generally the ones who criticize others.
And it is based on financial need not the quality of the player. You really think PDA needs to pay for players? hahaha hilarious
Travel is extra and the ECNL has a crap setup. If any of the teams make the final four in Chicago get to go home and then to San Diego. Why would you stay another couple of days and see it through when you can spend more money for tickets and a new round of hotels. Such a rip off. Oh and I am the previous poster. I am not thrilled with the ECNL but I do want to point out lies when they are spread on here. let's hope GDA is better from this perspective. and for arguments sake, maybe the club keeps a little of the annual tuition from all players and put this in a scholarship fund, this could be possible. but it's the same tuition year over year and only changes with age groups...not exact but along the lines of 9-11 is one price 12-13another, 15-16, 17+ etc...
My guess is PDA will have to pay for one player
Since these are the only 3 states that have posters on here I only used them.NY-NJ-PA top 20 teams 37.99 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL37.96 PENN FUSION SA ECNL36.96 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL36.95 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY 36.91 ALBERTSON SC ECNL36.86 PRINCETON SA IGFA NPL36.84 SUSA FC NPL36.83 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL36.36 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL 36.31 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL36.26 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME36.25 SUSA FC ELITE36.22 READING RAGE SC MORGAN36.03 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NORTH NPL 36.01 NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES35.97 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK35.76 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY35.74 NEW YORK SURF SC LI35.73 NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE 35.73 SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITEAnything under 0.50 is a push. and teams are considered equal.#1 vs #5 favorite by 1.08#1 vs #10 favorite by 1.68#5 vs #10 favorite by 0.60#1 vs #15 favorite by 1.98#5 vs #15 favorite by 0.90#10 vs #15 favorite by 0.30 #1 vs #20 favorite by 2.26#5 vs #20 favorite by 1.18#10 vs #20 favorite by 0.58#15 vs #20 favorite by 0.28Rainman
35.74 New York Surf FC - Long Islandhehtotal joke
Rainman @ 3:18 I would like to tell you how wrong your list was, but unfortunately its pretty frigging accurate (couple changes maybe). Good job.
I can have a lot of fun with this list. But it is very accurate. Even at U15 you sort of have the same clubs, so not surprising.
National Cup XVI Mid-Atlantic Regional winner advances to theNational Cup XVI FinalsGrand Park | Westfield, Ind.July 21-24, 201735.24 FC Copa Academy G01 Black35.17 GPS MA 2001 NPL Girls35.03 PDA Shore Fusion34.92 STA Morris United NPL 01----------------------------------------------------2017 NPL FinalsGrand Park | Westfield, Ind.July 13-17, 2017 Qualified so far38.27 Davis Legacy SC37.48 Lonestar '01 Red37.06 Oakwood SC Attack '01 NPL36.36 NJ Wildcats Fury36.20 MSC Lakers '01 Elite36.17 Santa Monica United '0136.15 IMG Academy35.99 Campton United SC35.77 Tucson Soccer Academy35.41 Virginia Rush34.89 Space City FC34.21 ISC Gunners
SUSA has qualified out of NYCSL
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Who is susa?The hat company?GFA much stronger
10:19 You say PRINCETON is stronger, okay.Youth Soccer rankings puts them at even36.86 PRINCETON SA IGFA NPL36.84 SUSA FC NPLBut when they played the hat company won 2-0, that would not support your claim
You are talking about two different gfa teams
I am talking about the 2001 Princeton NPL team - which other could it be in this age group?
Serious question, how many NPL players at this level are committed? I'm not looking to debate which league is better I am just considering options for my daughter. NPL is much closer so if girls are getting looks then no need for ECNL. And is there anywhere I can see how many for ECNL, NPL, etc... Thank you in advance.
So Princeton GFA NPL 2001 is better than SUSA - yet SUSA allowed ZERO goals in league play (9 games)Gotcha.
1:30 your assuming that information is public. Most parents/players don't make it public unless a website is asking for the information to be provided. I doubt once a kid gets a verbal the first thing they do is email soccer wire or topdrawer of their commitment.If a team wants to travel to national events like some leagues make their teams. Top teams have the Surf Cup, Players Cup (Vegas), Disney, CASL, Jefferson & PDA all take NPL teams. Plenty of opportunities for all players. The question is what event will the team play in. Plenty of other events that are loaded with D2 and D3 schools also.At the end of the day it comes down to the player. Players get coaches to their games and those coaches talk to their club coach (FACT) - it depends on what they do at these events all on the player.
I can only speak from my experience. My daughter plays region 1 league and EDP. This was really her first her first year showcasing. Did some tournaments PDA, Jefferson Cup, NEWSS, and a couple of EDP tournaments. So out of all the tournaments there has been 11 schools expressing interest. 3D1, 5D2, and 3D3. IDK if this helps
Interest is nothing without the offer. What is your club coach doing to change the interest into a verbal offer. Our coach calls the college coaches and helped 4 of our girls get verbal offers so far. And nobody cares about the region 1 league so I wouldn't brag about that.
I'm not bragging. Why would you think that?
Hold out for a car,if she is that good
This is footyball not american football.
1:44 no one said that. Princeton played some NPL games with the national league girls and some without. The national league players were in Delaware on the day of the Susa game so certainly they were not playing with a complete team.
Dude, this is a 2001 board Princeton was not in the national league.Not SUSA's problem Princeton can't field a team to compete in 2 age groups on their own. That's speak's volumes about the club actually.
Dude!! You must be new to this blog this year so let me bring you up to speed. Prior to the birth year change Princeton had a very strong team that was a mix of older 01s and younger 00s like every other team at that time. When the birth year was implemented the team split into the two birth year teams and fielded teams just fine. Since they had qualified for National League and had won high level tournaments with that group, that team stayed in tact for national league and those tournaments. in addition those players also played NPL and certain tournaments with their birth year. Same for the 17s. So in fact those 01 players were not there for the susa game as well as other games. As I am sure you know npl dates are rarely allowed to be moved which is part of the reason for not playing npl going forward. Now Im sure you will have some criticism of their structure but at least you have the facts straight and unless you are going to play there it is really none of your business anyway dude
Not new at all - this is a 2001 board could careless about the 2000 team and their national league game drama. As far as the 2001 team goes NY got the better of them pal 2-0 and that's all that matter SUSA FC NPL 01: 25 pts in 9 games with 0 GA while Princeton SA NPL-01 a close 2nd 21 pts in 8 games with 6 GA vs the same teams.YouthSoccer rankings has them as a push PRINCETON SA IGFA NPL (NJ)  36.84SUSA FC NPL (NYE)  36.83SUSA has bragging rights pal as of today. They played and they lost those are the FACTS dude.
Lol ok Susa won npl . Good job Susa . Susa is the best .Happy Father's Day . Go and enjoy your daughter and relax . Lol .Crazy people . Lol
Well if Youth Soccer rankings says so it must be so Pal. You won NPL congratulations yippeeeeee. Maybe you should look for a scrimmage with Princeton's full U 16 team in tact. I'd come to see that
Princeton on the down now that their best player just left for PDA. That little girl had he most skill on that team and they won't be able to replace her.
Agreed gfa a one trick pony, with out that girl it will be a long season.party over Slick...good luck in edp....lol...why did gfa get kicked out of npl?
Hey SUSA remind us how you guys did in Disney
Talented player and a good kid but attendance was poor. The team won plenty without her sorry to tell you. Lots of talent there whether you want to accept it or not.
good luck in EDP....you will look strong if you can get past copa...lol....sad but long overdue
Sad sorry loser
Did PDA really need her? She's a midfielder and i thought they had lots of bodies.
2:28 I think this is where the disconnect is - forget PDA the way we knew them this would apply to any GDA club. This is a bout the player and player's desire to play YNT and maybe someday 1st team NT. The best way and the easiest way for that is to play in the GDA.Playing college is second fiddle since that is going to be a lock for most of these kids if not all. So if they roster 24 kids those kids all probably have verbals already or serious interest from schools.It speaks volumes for any player that is a regular starter on a GDA team. like it or not that is the way of the future - nothing any league can do about it, nor should they want to. This is not about club or league it's about the player and wanting to play for the USA and since the GDA is the USSF it's one step below in the pyramid. The GDA is what ODP wanted to be and what the ECNL couldn't be. I say this because the ECNL was in place all they had to do was play nice and it was a done deal maybe they did play nice since most of the clubs are ECNL clubs.My 2 cents Rainman
I agree 100% that GDA is the way of the future. Again, "future" and will only aid the younger age groups. Our U16s are already in the pipeline and the GDA won't be fully on its feet in time to help us. If it happened the same time the boys got their DA we would be having a much different discussion. We are ECNL now and decided to stay with know rather than switch to unknown in the most crucial 2 years. A better offer could have come if we moved, but we are happy with the verbal we just got. I am glad we dodged the entire GDA bullet. This soccer crap is changing every day and I can't keep up.I don't blame any for taking a chance and moving to GDA. Lets check back in 2 years and see who made out the best. I bet all will be very equal.
PDA DA yes CS DA no
It is PLAYER development not TEAM development. All are equal in the eyes of US Soccer. College Coaches don't care about the score, just the player.
Thank you!! I see this whole "my kids DA will be better than your kids DA" all the time on here. Scouts don't take notes on the team or the final score, they watch the PLAYER. Coaching matters, competition level matters, and playing where scouts will be watching matters. A team win is a bonus.
yea I agree....but the DA added way to many bad clubs to effect this age group,they should have stayed ECNL at this age
hahaha. yeah, i think those way too many bad clubs will be just fine; pretty sure US Soccer does as well.
The year hasn't even started yet and the ignorant are pegging clubs as bad. If a club was bad US Soccer wouldn't have chosen them for the DA!
agree heavily with 1:15PM. in the end it is the club and coaches responsibility and trainers as well to have the team win matches. You cannot blame that on 13/14/15/16 year old kids or parents. Many times I hear from coaches, "it is the parents fault" And yes I have been around the block like a penthouse model has.
Switching back to what really matters the kids playing games.What happens after HS is another story.Play hard kids and enjoy (but remember my kid's team is the best)ECNL National Playoffs | Rockford, IL | June 22-27, 2017ECNL Champions league (teams 1-32)ECNL North American Cup (teams 33-48)ECNL Showcase Event (teams 49-64)Region I ODP Tournament | June 24-25, 2017National Cup XVI Mid-Atlantic Regional | Somerset, N.J. | June 26-29, 2017US Youth Soccer Region I Championships | Spotsylvania, VA | June 26-July 4,2017ECNL National Finals | San Diego, CA | July 7-8, 2017NPL Finals | Westfield, IN | July 13-17, 2017National Cup XVI | Westfield, IN | July 21-24, 2017US Youth Soccer National Championships | Frisco, TX | July 24-30, 2017
PS. I will provide youth soccer rankings after each event, to annoy you all.Rainman
Top 5 teams as of todayECNL teams1 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)  39.312 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)  39.253 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)  39.014 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ)  37.945 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE)  37.91NPL teams1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA)  37.492 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL (CT)  37.033 PRINCETON SA NPL (NJ)  36.794 SUSA FC NPL (NYE)  36.795 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)  36.16USYS teams1 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)  36.912 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 16U SELECT (NYW)  36.863 PREMIER SC NAVY (MD)  36.504 FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV)  36.275 SUSA FC ELITE (NYE)  36.23
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COPA will dominate Mid-Atlantic Regionals!!!COPA COPA COPA
So COPA is not going to VA for regionals? Where are they going? Are they going to Indiana? why are they at PDA regionals? What did they win to get into that or did they pay their way in? Copa has some very, very good teams, but not at U16 folks.
The mid Atlantic regional is an open invitation so every team in that tournament paid to participate. There is no path to qualify for this regional. Why the hate?
Come on 5:032:58 talking smack and that's way cool.3:54 wanted to dance and had some come backs.All in the name of fun, why you trying to make something out of nothing.Some Region 1 team scores todayECNL U16 - Champions League 0 Penn Fusion SA ECNL 20010 Solar Chelsea ECNL U16 1 MVLA ECNL U162 Bethesda SC ECNL U163 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U161 TSC Hurricane ECNL U16 1 Washington Premier ECNL U161 Connecticut FC ECNL U16 0 Michigan Hawks ECNL U162 PDA ECNL U16 3 FC Stars ECNL U160 SLSG - MO ECNL U163 McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U160 FC Bucks ECNL U167 of the 16 games had a team score more than 3 goals.ECNL U16 - North American Cup 2 FC Virginia ECNL U161 Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U162 Match Fit Academy ECNL U160 FC Portland ECNL U16
The first 2 ECNL playoff games and it's affect on the Youth Soccer rankings1 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) is now the #1 team as they wentup 0.09 pts based on the below results to a new score of 39.34. Basically these scores were expected vs these teams3:0 SLSG - MO ECNL U164:0 Real So Cal ECNL U16 2.MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) went up by 0.01 to 39.32 but it wasn't enough tokeep the #1 spot. These scores were also expected3:0 FC Bucks ECNL U162:0 Real Colorado ECNL U16 3 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) went down 0.05 to 38.96, so they won their 2 games but should have did better in regards to the scores since their score actually dropped. 3:1 TSC Hurricane ECNL U162:1 Bethesda SC ECNL U16 4 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE) remained the same 37.94 no change they did exactly what YSR though they would.0:0 Solar Chelsea ECNL U162:0 Slammers FC ECNL U165 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) also had no change 37.94 results were expected. 2:0 Michigan Hawks ECNL U161:2 Ohio Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U16
Hawks are a very good team. nice job by PDA. FC Stars is very good and will continue to be. not much soccer up there so they go to FC or Boston
Stars of Mass is like PDA on steroids. There are so many branches within the state of MA of Stars, that all those best players of those individual teams are promoted go to the ECNL team.(historically anyway)There are so many layers to get through to get to the pinnacle team.To start and stay on that team is Uber competitive.
ECNL U16 - Champions LeagueGm#1 6/27/2017 8:30 AMCrossfire Premier ECNL U16Concorde Fire ECNL U16Gm#2 6/27/2017 8:30 AMFC Dallas ECNL U16Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16 Gm#3 6/27/2017 12:30 PMTophat Soccer Club ECNL U16Mustang SC ECNL U16 Gm#4 6/27/2017 12:30 PMEclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U16FC Stars ECNL U16-----------------------------------------------ECNL U16 - North American CupGm#15 6/27/2017 12:30 PMSC Del Sol ECNL U16Dallas Texans ECNL U16-----------------------------------------------ECNL U16 - Showcase CupGm#15 6/27/2017 12:30 PMColorado Storm ECNL U16FSA FC ECNL U16
National Cup XVI Mid-Atlantic Regional2 GPS MA 2001 NPL2 PDA Shore Fusion1 STA Morris United NPL 011 FC Copa Academy G01 Black------------------------------------------------2017 NPL Finals qualified teams1 Tucson Soccer Academy2 NJ Wildcats Fury3 IMG Academy4 MSC Lakers '01 Elite5 Oakwood SC Attack '01 NPL6 Campton United '017 Davis Legacy SC8 FC Stars9 Campton United SC10 ISC Gunners11 SUSA FC NPL '0112 Space City FC13 Santa Monica United '0114 Virginia Rush15 Lonestar '01 Red----------------------------------------------2017 REGION I CHAMPIONSHIPSGROUP APremier Navy 2001 (MD) Fortis FC (MA)SJEB Rush 01 (NJ)1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E) GROUP BDE Rush 01 (DE)FC Stars (MA) Vermont Elite Futbol 2002/2001 Rock Stars (VT)Fury Athletica (WV)GROUP CBRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA)South Central Premier Spirit (CT)FC Frederick 01 (MD)Lynbrook/ER Screaming Eagles (NY-E) GROUP DNJ Stallion Freedom (NJ)Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)SAC Premier Blue (MD)Greater Binghamton FC (NY-W)
PDA gets what they deserve. They take girls from the outside the club and claim as theirs instead of promoting within the club. These girls come and get what they can't get from their original club then move on. Way to go PDA!
PDA and Halks played the best soccer. What happened? Physicality won over soccer. High wind, small fields, thick tall grass helps the ones who blast the ball and run. And these are the winners. PDA 7 Halks - nice soccer. Unfortunately, it is not enough when it doesn't matter much.
In the end, it's a game to be won. You figure out how to adapt your style of play to the conditions and the opponent. Kudos to those that can figure that out and come away with a win.
10:26 Penn Fusion does the same thing . No development going on there . Explains why they can never get the W
Are you calling Ohio Elite a kick and run team?Maybe they pressed PDA's defense and it broke - as is what occurred when Match Fit beat PDA earlier in the regular season.Just guessing. I am sure the Ohio team has its share of technical players.
To show you my point, see it and judge it yourself - https://youtu.be/_roBddxB9_4.
Geez.... so much chest pounding going on here. Having 6 daughters, all playing competitively, most of the comments on here are incredibly arrogant & immature. The DA didn't exactly work out the way they planned it to.... as in, weren't as many GREAT players interested in giving up thier lives completely. So, older DA teams had to pull younger players, as well as mediocre (at best) outside players (I know quite a few) just to field teams. Anyway, the end result is, the ECNL & DA have killed each other.... both watering each other down & not exactly fielding the best teams/players, especially in PA, where ECNL was already watered down. It's so horribly nauseating, for me, watching this stuff happen. If you're good, guess what....YOU'RE GOOD! Stop insulting each other. Love & Peace, Mom of a player at a decent D1 university, who stayed loyal to her higher level mediocre club team for 13 years. She was discovered at an ID camp. The first compliment the coach gave her, was that he was impressed by her loyalty to her team, even though, she could've left to showcase herself more. Stop bashing each other, and start giving advice.
This is just an observation from an old (very old) futbol guy..and this may be rhetorical. But what makes 1 style of play better than the others? I don't doubt that if your on this board your daughter probably plays at a high level and is probably technically skilled. Individual skill are what the scouts are looking for.Unfortunately maybe to everyone's detriment, when our girls were at a formidable age the best team in the world played this tiki-taka, quick, possession style soccer and oh yea, they had one of the best players of a lifetime that could penetrate and score when needed, they also had two of the best midfielders in Xavi and Iniesta..ever. But is this what we hold as the gold standard of good soccer?Kick and run is a horrible description, used at U8, when that was literally how it was played.If you were playing your little pass around in midfield and there was a turnover andthe ball was played into space on the wing, a speedy winger would run onto the ball and create off a scoring chance off that counter...is that kick and run? would you call the Sir Alex era at Man Utd, kick and run? Would the Serie A league be too boring and not exciting enough for y'all because it's defense first...would you just label it as "parking the bus"?Got news for all you parents that think the beautiful game will be played in college...have you ever watched a D1 soccer game...tell me where physicality doesn't win 9 out of 10 times. Scouts are looking for an individual, never a team.Leagues, no matter what 3 or 4 letters they represent are for the parents and so are wins and titles or that matter.Ever see your daughter an hour after a crushing loss, probably laughing and hanging out with her teammates while mommy and daddy are still fuming, complaining that we had possession but got beat by a kick and run team.
9:12 I agree with everything you said but the last statement - why do you generalize? how long does a fan talk about their team's loss? probably about as long as any parent. For someone who calls himself an old guy - shocked you don't see parents as fans and nothing more when it comes to soccer and parents when they need to pick their kid up because of the environment of youth soccer if needed (playing time issues and hurt feelings some take a loss bad before they hang with their friends not team)With ECNL wrapping up 2016/2017 season.ECNL U16 - Champions League FINAL 4Tophat Soccer Club ECNL U16FC Stars ECNL U16FC Dallas ECNL U16Concorde Fire ECNL U16ECNL U16 - North American Cup ChampionSC Del Sol ECNL U16ECNL U16 - Showcase Cup ChampionFSA FC ECNL U16Region 1 RANKINGS via Youth Soccer Ranking Scores1 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)2 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)3 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)4 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ)5 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE)6 CRUSA FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE)7 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)8 BETHESDA SC ECNL (MD)9 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)10 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)11 ALBERTSON SC ECNL (NYE)12 FSA FC ECNL (CT)13 RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL (VA)14 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE)15 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY 0 (VA)16 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA)17 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE)18 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD)19 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE)20 PITTSBURGH RIVERHOUNDS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY (PAW)
Yea. What is in the water in MA?
How do NJ elite lose to MT Laurel in the lower bracket of the mid-Atlantic regional?
What is the Mid-Atlantic regional?
I think this is in the US Club Soccer/League.
MA has always been known for its soccer. Lived there years ago and every kid always had a soccer ball it seemed. There are soccer fields everywhere. Helps that they also get kids from VT, RI, NH and Maine as they have no ECNL clubs in those states.
Sounds like NJ elite is missing their coach and players that left
Don't know about that but they did lose
NJ elite coach left for STA
Where did the players from flames go? STA? The coach is a cry baby! Begs for calls all game long!
Yes he has cried for Years
The US Club Soccer Mid-Atlantic Regional was some great stuff. Congrats to FC Copa on a tiebreaker win (after all four teams ended up tied on points).A bunch of good soccer from NEFC, STA and PDA Fusion as well this week in Somerset. Thanks to all the players for putting on a great show!
CEDAR STARS baby!!!!!!
I'm sorry, 6 of the top teams on gotsoccer from NJ? Look at what they do. They go to big tournaments, play in tiers other than the top usually, grab points, and then take them back to NJ and they just feed off of each other with edp and both state cups. I guess you could say I'm hating the player and the game.
And that is why college coaches don't pay attention to got soccer points. Heard that years ago with my older daughter directly from coaches.
8:24 besides you nobody even looks at gotsoccer anymore. Youth Soccer Rankings is in - if you like to see lists. Complete game results for all teams. Much more fun - you can also use it as a vegas line.PDA ECNL favorite by 1 goal vs SJEB RushSJEB Rush favorite by 1 goal vs PDA North NPL37.85 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL36.88 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL36.88 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY36.74 PRINCETON SA PREMIER ELITE36.12 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL35.94 NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES35.93 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NORTH NPL35.68 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY NPL35.66 SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE35.61 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPLPS. 11:41 College coaches care about one thing and that's their team, they will fill spots with the best available options.Curious what's the PDA ECNL verbal count? SJEB is at 5 I believe for this age group.
With NEFC now the Boston Breakerswe will have a new NPL champion.NPL Finals 2017 - 2001 GirlsFlight ASUSA G01 NPLFC Stars 2001 NPL IMG Space City FC 01G NavyFlight BLonestar SC 01G RedOakwood SC Attack NPL 01Virginia Rush 01GISC Gunners G01AFlight CSouth Shore Select U16 APNJ Wildcats FuryMSC Lakers Elite 01 GirlsTucson Soccer Academy 01 Girls Red Santa Monica United FC G01Campton United 01 NPLMy Final 4SUSALonestarSouthShoreNJ WildcatsSouth Shore vs SUSA in the finalwith NY being the champion
What weekend is that?
Why are there just 14 teams?NPL states that they reserve the right to add teams in order to fill bracketsWhich teams said NO - leaving it at 14, rather than 16 teams, which would be perfect?NPL could strive for closer to perfection...
11:49 of the 22 NPLs with a girls division for the 2016-17 season the below are not represented.Lake Highlands Girls Classic LeagueMidwest Developmental LeagueMountain Developmental LeagueNorCal Premier League - NPL DivisionSouth Atlantic Premier LeagueUnited Soccer Clubs Champions LeagueWashington State Premier League
7:51 Granted youth soccer rankings takes into account for ecnl, and some other things, where gotsoccer falls behind with ecnl teams, youth soccer rankings has just as many teams scattered through the rankings that don't belong where they are. Saying one is better than the other is like arguing what creamer for your coffee is better. Personally, I prefer to look at both sites and try to get a feel for where teams stand. That and gotsoccer makes it easy to look at the big tournies where ecnl plays against non ecnl and you can get a feel how teams stack up with each other. With all that said, it's still any given Sunday.
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