Monday, May 2, 2016

U16G Girls Youth Soccer

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Anonymous said...

looks like the players that left are not replaceable as MF parents on this blog stated.

Anonymous said...

Where did they go and why, 6:35?

Anonymous said...

Match Fit lies, promises.

Anonymous said...

5:18 What's your problem? Little Suzie didn't make the team? Worry about your kid's team. EDP is not the end of the world.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe Little Suzie made the choice to leave and go to a more reputable club.

Anonymous said...

Maybe little Suzie left, but little Suzie's mom or dad should have the class to leave without bitching like a she was a jealous parent.

Serious question, what are the legitimate odds of little Suzie's team beating MF 2001 ECNL?

Anonymous said...

Did someone say odds? Using youthsoccer usa rankings

MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL [36.62]

SJEB would be a -1.86 favorite.
WC ECNL would be -1.78 favorite
PDA ECNL would be -1.60 favorite
PDA Madrid would be -1.06 favorite
NJ Wildcats Fury would be -0.78 favorite
NJ STALLIONS -0.14 favorite
JERSEY SHORE BOCA -0.13 favorite
MIDDLETOWN SC -0.09 favorite
WC NPL -0.03 favorite

MF favorite over all others (NJ)


The updated Region 1 scores 37+

1 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL [40.24]
2 MCLEAN YS ECNL [40.22]
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3 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL [39.62]
4 BETHESDA SC ECNL [39.12]
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5 PENN FUSION SA ECNL [38.92]
6 FC BUCKS ECNL [38.55]
7 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY [38.48]
8 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL [38.40]
9 FC VIRGINIA ECNL [38.34]
1o MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL [38.29]
11 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL [38.22]
12 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL [38.05]
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13 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC [37.80]
14 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS [37.79]
15 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL [37.78]
16 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY MADRID [37.68]
17 SUSA ISA NPL [37.60]
18 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY [37.55]
19 ARLINGTON SA RED [37.47]
20 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL [37.46]
21 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL [37.40]
22 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL [37.37]
23 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME [37.35]
24 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP [37.32]
25 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL [37.24]
26 CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD [37.22]
27 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK [37.15]
28 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL [37.05]
29 BEACH FC RED [37.03]

Anonymous said...

Eastern Regional League flights posted

37.80 D1 Greater Binghamton FC 01 Select
37.79 D1 Premier SC Navy 2001
37.55 D1 BRYC Elite Academy 01/02
37.47 D1 Arlington SA 2001 Girls Red
37.35 D1 1776 United FC Xtreme
37.22 D1 Century V 01 Gold
36.76 D1 NJ Stallions Academy 01 Freedom NPL
36.56 D1 FC Frederick FC '01
36.31 D1 Empire United SA Rochester G16 2001
36.13 D1 Harford FC United Thunder 01/02
36.06 D1 Pipeline SC Black
36.03 D1 Beadling SC Elite
35.84 D1 Loudoun Soccer 01G Red
35.64 D1 Empire United SA Buffalo G16 2001
34.50 D1 Davidsonville Dynamite
33.82 D1 Northern Steel Eclipse
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37.15 D2 Lehigh Valley United 2001 Girls Black
36.29 D2 HMMS Eagle FC 01 UNITED
36.22 D2 Fury Soccer Club Athletica
35.92 D2 Syracuse Development Academy 2001 ORANGE
35.56 D2 Severna Park Black Thunder '01
35.39 D2 Yardley Makefield Soccer Premier 01' Banshees
35.27 D2 PDA Shore Fusion
35.22 D2 LTSC 2001 Strikers (Purple)
35.11 D2 Hotspurs Soccer Club 2001 Blue
34.61 D2 Rochester Futbol Club Girls 01
33.47 D2 DMS Soccer 2001 Academy Black
33.40 D2 SAC Premier White 2001s
33.22 D2 Rochester Junior Rhinos 2001 Girls
00.00 D2 Foothills Power
00.00 D2 SCS United Elite

Anonymous said...

Some more YouthSoccer rankings- sorry couldn't do EDP -not sure which teams are in

Qualified for NPL Finals 2017
36.70 VIRGINIA RUSH

NorthEast NPL
38.05 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL
37.68 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY MADRID
36.65 WORLD CLASS FC NPL
36.33 CFC UNITED NPL
36.07 CONTINENTAL FC NPL
36.03 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY HORNETS
35.51 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL
35.37 PENN FUSION SA NPL
34.66 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NPL
34.17 ALBERTSON SC NPL FURY
33.87 FC BUCKS NORTH BLACK NPL
33.84 EAST MEADOW SC NPL
33.52 FSA FC NPL

NY Club NPL
37.60 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)
36.76 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM
36.24 MASSAPEQUA SC NPL COSMOS
36.21 PRINCETON SA IGFA
36.07 STA SOCCER MORRIS UNITED NPL
35.89 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE NPL
35.18 NEW YORK SC ELITE SKY
34.63 NJ CRUSH FC STORM
34.37 QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL
00.00 BRENTWOOD NPL FREEDOM 2001

NewEngland NPL
37.32 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP
37.05 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL
36.64 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS RED NPL
35.61 NEFC BREAKERS NPL
35.55 SEACOAST UNITED NPL
35.03 GPS MASSACHUSETTS NPL
34.82 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL
31.16 AZTEC SOCCER NPL

Anonymous said...

And the best for last the current top of the pyramid

40.24 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL
39.62 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL
38.92 PENN FUSION SA ECNL
38.55 FC BUCKS ECNL
38.40 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL
38.22 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL
37.78 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL
37.37 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL
37.24 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL
36.62 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL
36.54 FSA FC ECNL
36.54 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL
36.19 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL
35.75 WNY FLASH ACADEMY ECNL

Anonymous said...

National league recap

NL Black - FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO) can clinch a tie forvthe title with a win vs Nationals Union 01 Black (MI) or if the nationals win the door remains wide open for either Florida Elite 2001 (FL) or Fullerton Rangers 01 White (CA-S) toclaimthe title in Vegas. Nationals Union 01 Black has aspotlockedup in next year's National league with a MidWest Regional league Fall title already.

NL Blue - the Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI) can clinch a spot at nationals and in next year's national league with a win vs LFSA Select (IL)

NL Red - CUP Gold 01 (OH-S) wins the title and spot at nationals and next year's national league with one win in Vegas.

NL White - the current 1st place team EGA 01 Maroon Omaha (NE) has a spot clinched for next year's national league as the 2nd place Midwest regional league fall team but will likely not win this year's division title. Legends FC 01 Academy (CA-S) with 2 wins in Vegas can clinch the White division.

Anonymous said...

Region 1 Teams that have qualified

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2017 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships - VA
1. BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/02

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2017 NPL Finals - IN
1. VIRGINIA RUSH

Anonymous said...

@12:30 MF ECNL 2001 would outplay and outscore everyone of those teams...

It's very early in the season, try watching a team before you start trashing them. If you are going by stats in college showcases you are grasping at straws.

If they were to lose to any of those teams I would owe you a sincere apology.

A little objectivity goes a long way.

Anonymous said...

12:30 The numbers mean nothing right now... unless you need them to prove something that is simply not there.

Try having a shred of objectivity please...

MF would beat every team on that list, most games would not be close.

See the teams play before you launch a personal tirade.

College showcases are not much of a barometer.

Start your agenda when you have some actual real data, please.

Being petty and jealous is not a good way to go through life.


Anonymous said...

No agenda pal - those are the Youthsoccer rankings scores with the current team rosters, they are what they are, no excuses made or needed every team played showcase games. Objectivity? No need the data is the data. So is 3:50 and 4:27 the same person, because I'm 12:30 and all I have been posting are youthsoccer ranking scores the same for everyone no favorites and my posts are easy to identify no opinions just the results not selling anything.

Anonymous said...

The rankings are based solely on team results.

Every goal in every game is considered when calculating the ranking of each team.

Each team is assigned a score that is measured in goals.

To predict the goal difference when two teams play each other simply subtract the score of one team from the score of the other.

Wrong (Sjeb favorite by 0.88 o r1)
1 SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY [38.48]
2 SUSA ISA NPL G01 [37.60]

Correct (coin flip diff = 0.03)
1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME [37.35]
1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP [37.32]

correct (coin flip diff = 0.16)
0 BEADLING SC ELITE [36.03]
1 NYSC ELITE 2001 SAPPHIRE [35.87]

Correct (Pipeline favorite by 0.88 or 1)
1 PIPELINE SC BLACK [36.06]
0 NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SKY [35.18]

Wrong (Classics favorite by 1.32 or 1)
0 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 [36.28]
0 MERCER FC SPURS [35.06]

3 out 5 correct by using just the data (not bad)

Anonymous said...

@6:16 There isn't NEARLY enough data. And 3 out of 5 is 60%, that's not good.

Anonymous said...

8:37 That's 60% looking at a random 5 games I picked. If I was to look at the entire Disney lineup I'm sure it would be higher.

I like their stats and it's the only place the ECNL teams can't cry about not including all their results.

When you say not enough data who are you talking about teams from VA have played 20+ games?

Once again no agenda on my part just data not enough or just enough the data is what it is. Teams are what they are. To me these scores tell me that any team in the top 30 can compete vs each other with either one winning.

using MF since you like to defend them.

MF [36.62]

0:1 vs RICHMOND UNITED ECNL [37.46] - correct
2:4 vs LONESTAR SC ECNL [37.95] - correct
1:4 vs FC VIRGINIA ECNL [38.34] - correct
1:0 vs STA SOCCER MORRIS UNITED NPL [36.07] -correct
4:0 vs BEACHSIDE SC CT [33.69] - correct
1:1 vs ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL [37.37] - wrong because the diff is .75 and we round it to 1 if the diff was below .50 it would also be correct because we would round it to 0.



They are 83.33% correct when predicting MF games -Is that better than 60%?

Anonymous said...

12:18am - I am a fan of you! Glad you are able to prove to those MF parents that their team is just average.

Anonymous said...

12:18 This is 8:37 and 87% is pretty good.

Can't argue with you about that.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

10:19 Let's talk in June

Anonymous said...

Nice job NJ Wildcats win top flight at Disney Showcase.

Anonymous said...

@739

That shows as the Wildcats Averbuch team which is 2002 girls so they played up a year & won top flight for 2001 age group at a major national showcase tournament. Very, very impressive.

Anonymous said...

Plenty of '01s on that Averbush team, of course - but yes - a very nice job keeping their run going. Solid team. Never easy.

Anonymous said...

Adverbush was not at Disney. It was the fury team. Wildcat director playing gotsoccer games again. Averbush was on the wags applied team list but somehow fury was on the schedule. Same for CASL and now Disney.

Anonymous said...

2002 Girls are allowed to play up within the same club. It was a mix of players from Averbuch and Fury Teams within the Wildcats Club. Same as the other academies do it. At Raleigh they played in 2002 top flight so that was all 2002 team.

Anonymous said...

At some point, a team has to stop chasing points

Anonymous said...

8:26 - but if it gets them in the top flights, what's the issue? This one is on Disney -it's very easy to see when a team is manipulating GS. Just look at their history if you see u15 and u16 flights then you know they are guilty.

This is a reason why I prefer Youth Soccer Rankings USA over gotsoccer. Both teams are the same and GS had nothing to do with either team being F1, however if you look at GS there is a big gap. Tournaments will get smart or they just don't care.

37.47 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL
37.11 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL

Anonymous said...

PS. The Averbuch team GS was the right one to use for Disney as this had u14 results that should be used as U16 results. However, Disney should have then noticed that this account is now being used as a U15 account and should have flighted them properly further down regardless of their results at Disney.

Wait we'll see the same type of decisions/mistakes made in a few days by Jefferson.

PSS from my previous post you can see either team would be flighted the same based on their Fall 2016 results as their scores are about the same. However,Disney should have made an example of them for trying to play the system

Anonymous said...

But they won the higher division so what's the issue?
Why flight them lower? That would be chasing points....

Anonymous said...

Why didn't Wildcats DOC just have the Fury U16 team club register for the tournament & have some of the 2002 players from Averbush guest play as needed? That way the Fury would have benefitted from the GS points. Speaking of the latter, how does GS award points to the U15 team that used U16 players if that indeed did happen? & the "all other academies do it" excuse is lame.

Anonymous said...

9:04 Becasue they took a spot of a true U16 team (no smoke and mirrors) who could have also won the flight. Why not use the true U16 gotsoccer account (Fury)? Oh not as many point so a lower flight huh? Cheating the system but i don't blame them they tried and got over this one is on the selection people at Disney. Not major event ever played a team playing up in their top flights. But it is what it is.

9:36 and that is the problem - they should not be allowed to use the Averbuch GS account for 2002/U15 events now since they have new season results that included U16/2001 guest players. But GS won't catch that unless someone complains to them.

Ps. The other academies don't do it. It's called cheating and that's a sad thing this we are talking about a team with 15 year old players. So sad.

Anonymous said...

They can only get those points for one team or the other so the points are only benefiting one team, not both. And they did win the games and the flight so lets not lose sight of that fact. And they beat some strong teams to get there.
Top flight at Disney is no joke, very competitive and always has been. Just look at past years top flight winner.

Anonymous said...

What teams were in the top flight. And what were the scores?

Anonymous said...

So in the end, Wildcats are best at U16, with 02 players playing 01. Their is no issue because they kicked but and won flight. Now lets talk about wrong flight-ing in general? Bad refs etc. If they go in as Averbush and won who cares, they obviously earned it and deserved it. I would like to play Averbush truth be told. I have said it before, great things happening in Long Branch with this club. No games, small rosters, great players.

Anonymous said...

10:52 I said the point was they cheated to get a higher flight. After looking at the facts - YouthSoccer Rankings Score was close and so is their GotSoccer point totals. I was a fool for posting be fore I looked.

14442 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL
14439 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL

The teams are equal and would be flighted the same way

Anonymous said...

You are looking at the rankings today. In August when you had to apply to Disney averbush was ranked 1 in the country in got soccer with 24000 points and a state cup champion but fury was ranked 9th in NJ with around 13000 points. That is a very different profile. Only one is worthy of the top flight and the wildcat DOC knew it and tried to rig the system.

Anonymous said...

Both are flight 1 teams now. And U17 Wildcats Troutman also won last weekend in top flight at NPL Showcase. All 3 teams U15-U17 are now very solid.

Anonymous said...

But do they share players?

Anonymous said...

The last day of NPL games overlapped with 1st day of Disney games on Saturday so I don't believe players could be in 2 places at once. Troutman is a 2000 Team that looks much improved from last year judging by the teams results at EDP Cup in November and NPL results last weekend in Florida.

Anonymous said...

That 2000 team sent a few players to Disney and played with less players at the end of NPL. Also they pulled up a player from the 2002 team

Anonymous said...

Impressive. That is certainly making the most of their time in FL. How did work as far as logistics? I heard that the NPL games where a bit away from Orlando.

Anonymous said...

NPL field was weak so it didn't matter

Anonymous said...

Is top drawer soccer worth joining?

Anonymous said...

I would not pay for Top Drawer but I'm a member for now because we got a membership since my kid did a Top Drawer showcase. You may have noticed this already but everything they write is geared towards ECNL on the girls side (and DA on the boys side). $4 a month just to see who they think were the top players at some event, when they only watch maybe 3 or 4 games per day, just doesn't seem a good value.

Anonymous said...

There is enough free content for it to be useful as is.

Anonymous said...

But 5:26 if NPL brackets were so weak why didnt any of the 3 CSA Teams that attended(1999, 2000 and 2001 all attended) come out on top?

Anonymous said...

So my family comes back from Disney and tells me that we had several players from the team below and above us play with our team which cut many kids minutes. Other parents tell me I should be happy we won. But in the end we did not Aberbush did. We entered wags and casl as averbush and then were changed to fury but our DOC could net get Disney changed so in the end Averbush gets credit for the win not fury. On top of that I hear our captain stayed home for basketball and that one of the older girls mom was bragging how the wildcats will work around her basketball schedule and it's ok if she misses some so this is why she joined wildcats this year. Why are we rewarding kids who are not dedicated to the team? I could not make this up if I tried.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter about a "team" at this point. If you are a freshman or sophomore college coaches are watching individual players not teams. If your daughter played and played well that's all that counts.

Anonymous said...

5:14 and this is exactly what is wrong with this Fing world we live in - all about me who cares who I step on to get what I want. Great job as parents we did.

Anonymous said...

Soccer is a team sport and it's all about the team and how the player fits in.
Yes coaches are watching the players not how many step overs they do but how they connect with their team and how they play their ROLE on the TEAM. How can you say it doesn't matter about the team - Life is about fitting into a team either in a family or at work.


Anonymous said...

The girl who also plays hs basketball was in florida playing with wildcats. Is everything that comes out of your mouth a lie. Wildcat parent my eye. Everyone knows who you are and your attempts at mistepresenting yourself are obvious and tiresome. But trying to turn winning top flight at Disney into a negative is a stretch even for you.

Anonymous said...

I didn't intimate that the an individual player not be a team player. What I meant is that the college coaches coming to watch and recruit could care less of the team your daughter is on is the best team. They are only lookkng at the players as an individual. Of
Course she must be a team player among other attributes.

Anonymous said...

9:47 I don't know anyone from the Wildcats... But how can you be sure that it's a BS post?

Anonymous said...

12:33 so why even mention that - soccer is a team sport with players playing different roles. There should be no difference between practice, league game and showcase it's all the same as far as playing and being part of a team. So if the team doesn't why is their a top of the pyramid? F1, F2 and so on? Doesn't the team have to be good to get to F1? or is random pick out of a hat?

It's always about the team and playing for your team putting your body in front of a shot to help your goalie or sprinting back on Def to stop a counter when you are an attacking player. You said "It doesn't matter about a "team" at this point." College coaches were never looking at the team NEVER. So why say it. I'm talking about the parents that tell their kids to dribble and not pass the ball score the goals so you look good. How many times do I hear parents asking their kids how many goals did you score? Who cares if they stayed and watched they would have seen how good their kids played without scoring any goals.

My point is college coaches always come to recruit the player that is a given and has never changed and never will. But if they have free time to go watch a game - they will watch top flight games before bottom flight games any day of the week, I would.

Anonymous said...

Depends.

If a "not so top flight" (your description) team's player caught the attention of the coach at a clinic, even by e-mail - then the coach might forego a "better" (your word) game to see the "lesser" one.

GET their attention - that's the first lesson.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Where is list of accepted teams to Jeff Cup? Was supposed to be up 1/6/17

Anonymous said...

8:32 My bad - let me try again -

the college coach is free already saw all the kids that reached out in the AM now has some time to kill in between the next group he/she has to see in PM.

Next to him/her are two fields but he/she can only watch one - the top flight or the bottom flight (the event's description) who does he/she pick?

I already said i would pick the top flight. Stop trying to SPIN it's a straight forward question. Are you telling me you would pick the bottom flight since the team doesn't matter to you?

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup acceptance absolutely crucial for players on 2000 and 2001 teams. Along with pda showcase those are the 2 spring college showcases that every college program will attend.

Anonymous said...

2018's players need Jeff Cup. Not crucial for 2020's or 2019's.

Jeff Cup acceptance is absolutely crucial for non ECNL teams.

ECNL teams have the ECNL Phoenix event, which draws all the P5 schools. Top U16 teams get all they need in Phoenix.

ECNL teams get auto acceptance to Jeff Cup which is a nice thing. Many ECNL programs, U-16 to U-18, form composite teams for the players that are not committed. Results make no difference at Jeff Cup.

Anonymous said...

for 2019's jeff cup very important. Sophomore year is now most highly recruited year, not junior year. You are wrong as most power 5 conference schools have all their athletic scholarship money promised by end of sophomore year for that class.
Be careful of putting out inaccurate posts for those parents who need accurate info for their children.

Anonymous said...


What I am saying is the P5 will be in AZ. There are good teams at Jeff Cup, but many of the top teams don't attend, thus, not as many P5 schools. Jeff Cup does get some P5 schools to show, but it is mostly mid-majors and the focus of mid-majors are the 2018's and 19's. Sorry, but the P5 focus on the ECNL national events, which are much bigger events for recruiting and huge for the 2019's & 20's playing on U16 teams. ALL the P5 schools will be in Phoenix, but they won't be at Jeff Cup. Accurate.

Anonymous said...

You need to go "mobile" to see the acceptances for Jeff Cup
Same every year
https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?eventid=53446

Anonymous said...

Yes and I am sure they will be focused on the 2017's as you claim. You are a misinformed ignorant person. Many of the Region 1 ECNL Teams are playing at Jefferson Cup you fool. And all the college coaches from Region 1 will be there as they were at Raleigh for CASL event and as they will be in Vegas for that event the week before Jefferson Cup.

Anonymous said...

So 1:17 let me get this straight, all the top ECNL Teams wont be at Jefferson Cup? did you bother to even look at Champiosnship flight? Its as strong or stronger as any tournament flight I have seen this year. Including the ECNL events.Even flight 2 is fill with strong teams and the ECNL Clubs are ALL represented. Also tell us again how this springs tournaments are the biggest recruiting events for 2018 junior class, not 2019 sophomore class. You are an absolute Buffoon!

Anonymous said...

Well, they are certainly big recruiting events for those 2018 players that are uncommitted.

Anonymous said...

But their is no athletic scholarship money left for 2019's now in the spring of their junior year for major conference programs. Those schools have finished their recruitment of the 2019 current hs junior class and are now wrapping up the 2020's sophomore class this spring and will begin looking at the 2020 frosh class as well. If you are an uncommitted junior/2019 class then you are looking at mid majors at this point if you expect to get ANY athletic money.

Anonymous said...


You don't get a high turnout of coaches in Vegas. Just does not happen anymore. Coaches of those teams will tell the players and parents to justify the cost of the trip, but it's not ECNL AZ, although club coaches will try to spin it that way.

You do get the highest turnout of coaches at the ECNL events in the spring. ECNL AZ and NJ have all the P5 schools and they will be focused in on the 2019's and 20's.

Jeff Cup and CASL are good events, but still not at the level of the ECNL national events. Jeff Cup is still great for the 2018's.

FALSE. There is still money out there for 2019 players.

Yes, there are very good teams playing at Jeff Cup, but not as good as the ECNL national events. That is why the two biggest events of the spring for recruiting will be ECNL AZ and NJ.

Name calling is fine with me. In the end, you will see that I am correct. All the best in Vegas...

Anonymous said...

@12:55

2017- current seniors
2018-current juniors
2019-current sophomores
2020- current freshmen
Just sayin

Anonymous said...

1:55 - hahahaha, you beat me to it.

Yes, 2017's are the current seniors; and 2018's are the current juniors; and 2019's are current sophomores. 2019's are not juniors as an above poster proclaims. So, school are STILL recruiting 2018's very heavily.

Anonymous said...

No power 5 schools are still recruiting hs jumiors and look at jeff cup all region 1 ecnl teams are there. Every one. You are mistaken. Jeff Cup has best of both ecnl and non ecnl teams. That is why all the colleges will be there. They can see everyone.

Anonymous said...

Correct 2019 yes.But for 2018 major college programs are done with juniors.

Anonymous said...

2:53 - many know that most ECNL teams won't play commits. So, not getting a true peek at the regular team and how kids really play within the soccer systems from which they are recruiting as some will be in different positions, etc.
Just hoping the weather is good and all the participants have a good showing.

Anonymous said...

Plenty of Fall 2016 commits to D1s (SENIORS) from 2017 class.

Anonymous said...

There are plenty of soccer spots out there. Don't panic.

Anonymous said...

I love how this blog talks about kids being recruited in their sophomore year! Stop dreaming! As of right now only 2 kids playing fro respected teams have been committed to top D1 schools and your isn't one of them.

Anonymous said...

Message to the mature parents out there...we are now parents of 2001 girls, stop trying to make your daughter's team out to be the best by destroying others, get a life.
Be a parent, help your daughter do her best to help her succeed in life.
Lots of bullies and trolls around here, still stuck in the U12 years, living vicariously through their kids because they missed out on opportunities when they were young.
Oh...and Obama is done and Trump won, get over it!
Why not offer some helpful hints for those parents who are new to this showcasing instead of being pompous asses?

Anonymous said...

What's the definition of a "respected team"? W-L record? Coach's attitude? Players' attitudes? League? I thought recruitment was all about the player's ability, not the team's. Plenty of good players out there, that for one reason or another, do not play for a "brand name" or so-called respected team.

Anonymous said...

True. I agree with poster after looking at jeffeson Cup acceptances. those top 3 flights are very strong indeed. Couldn't figure out why someone was trashing Jefferson Cup on here. Then I went through the list again and realized for some reason MatchFit decided not to send their teams. so it is most likely Matchfit trying to run down Jefferson Cup as unimportant and Arizona event as the place to be as that is evidently what they tried to sell their parents.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup flights are horrible. There is no organization whatsoever. The tournament needs to stop following GotSoccer. The better teams don't go after the GotSoccer points therefore they're in the lower flights.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what PDA will do as far as ECNL once the GDA is up and running next year? I can't imagine that they'd stop playing in ECNL.

Anonymous said...

9:24 I guess I need to get a life, because i love talking best teams or maybe I should say quality teams and I use results the only metric you can use to avoid opinions and being bias. Now if the results (which we have no control over but our girls do) destroy a team or pump up a team why is that taboo?

My kid wants to play in college and she has filled out D1 questionnaires, attended D1 ID clinics, talked to D3 coaches and visited schools on a list she prepared with no input from me.

If we don't talk results what do we talk about? it's not right to talk about kids, I think the college thing has been talked about with no new information to be discovered.

12:13 I don't see why they wouldn't. They have a great set up, the DA just set up a u15 age so know we have u13,u14 and u15 single age groups, cha ching. The have the brand and people will do anything to have their kids be on one of their rosters even if they are the 24th player.

12:07 teams (parents) that might be upset they are not in the top 3 (Championship, Elite or Superior flights) are listed below.

11:12 genius move to some how drag MF into this. No disrespect but i would take Arizona over Virginia as a tournament location any day of the week (my kid happens to want to go out west)

F4 Platinum Orange
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC ELITE-MANALAPAN (NJ)
PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ)
PENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE)
READING RAGE '01 MORGAN (PAE)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL (NYE)
FC STARS NPL 01 (MA)
PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)

F5 Classic
CEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2001 (NJ)
NEW YORK SURF SC G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE)
PENN FUSION SA NPL 2001 (PAE)
TSF ACADEMY 2001G (NJ)

Anonymous said...

8:52 - clearly you don't have access to The List. There are many more than 2 top level sophomores verbally committed to top level programs. I know of more than two personally. And, my older daughter committed late in her soph year. It happens. Just don't rush it and make sure all the stars align.

More importantly, as the poster noted, there are plenty of soccer spots out there; don't panic.

Anonymous said...

I understand that every team can't be in the top fllights but some of the teams listed in top 3 flights have to know they shouldn't be there. It's quite obvious. The Jeff Cup people definitely dropped the ball this year.

Anonymous said...

These are some teams I think are to high, but i wouldn't replace them with any of the teams I listed previously.

These tournaments brag about their 1 goal games. Destroy the teams that you play other events will take notice as tournaments hate one sided games as it's a waste of time for the colleges and negative press.

FC FREDERICK '01 (MD
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD)
STA 2001G NPL (NJ)
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)
PDA HORNETS (NJ)
SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS PREMIER WHITE (NJ)
SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE)

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what happened to Freehold, Jackson, and Wall? It has them at U17 but no games have been played?

Anonymous said...

You can probably find them on youtube
They all disbanded...

Anonymous said...

President's Day Futsal U9-U14, HS, Adult Divisions. $175 one day event.
Convenient to NY/NJ, Philly, MD.

http://www.playbisc.com/soccer/futsal

Anonymous said...

Dude if you're going to advertise on here, at least pick the right age group

Anonymous said...

They do note high school (HS) which would include U16.

Anonymous said...

Honestly these futsal tournaments and indoor tournaments are a waste of time at the HS ages even the younger ages in my opinion. Just train with the team and relax on the weekends before Spring kicks into gear.

I remember back a few years posters were trying to sell some futsal national Championship in CA and the Wildwood event as the place to be - where are they now, since the posts stopped? Oh it's about the individual these days right? Always has been.

Anonymous said...

Psychologically, competition (indoor events, futsal) is good.

Dont just look at the technical.

Anonymous said...

Did all the futsal tourneys with my kids.They are better players today because of them.My oldest daughter really misses it and so do I.

Anonymous said...

My kid did futsal. She's a GK. Kind of dangerous for a GK. Saw one break an arm diving onto the floors. Not something we do anymore.

Anonymous said...

4:55 Let me understand your kid is a better player because of the futsal tournaments and not the futsal training?

I love the training could careless about the games, most of the games played were not vs very good teams and the skilled players did a bunch of 1v1 and long range shooting. Kids will be kids. But to each their own, happy your kids love it.

Anonymous said...

BRYC Elite Academy to Join Boys ECNL & Girls ECNL for 2017-18 Season

Anonymous said...

If a club now has GDA and the coaches are all the same, what has really changed? USSF is only an influence
Club coaches were good or bad or in between already

Anonymous said...

Kids will be different. They will be able to sift out the kids that won't have the ability to play at that level for the kids that want to play GDA. So, coaches will have kids that get it and can execute it.

Anonymous said...

So we will have 10 girls from 2002 and 10 girls from 2001 with only 18 dressing for games and of the 18 only 14 playing. Yup some girls will get it and some will practice 4x per week and sit more than they play. But at least we have showcase events for them to play in right?

What ever makes you happy. If your kid is DA and you are paying you are not one of the players getting the push and PT will not be guaranteed. Not sure paying over 2k is worth training 4x with limited PT.

Anonymous said...

I dream of it being 2K

We'll see.

I do think the training will be well worth it, especially if what is being put forth re: college coaches attending sessions rings true.

Anonymous said...

Where does it say college coaches will attend?

Anonymous said...

**BEWARE** PDA Splash coach JB is a miserable human being. Do NOT bring your daughter to PDA. He had 6 new players at practice last week because the team is losing. He knows nothing about soccer, and less about developing players. Don't let him berate your daughter. Worst coach in NJ

Anonymous said...

7:45 I respect your opinion. But as an outsider I see your post as follows:

A. Players being looked at because half the team moving to GDA next season and tryouts are around the corner.

B. Players probably contacted team once tryouts were announced by PDA/SKYBlue for GDA.

C. Not all players respond the same to a coach and his/her style.

D. Players need thick skin and parents even thicker they are not little girls anymore. They are teenage athletes.

E. Your opinion of the coach is your opinion.

Anonymous said...

For those of you that like commitments using soccerwire and topdrawer

Class of 2020
Bethesda SC (MD) = 1
Richmond United (VA) = 1
NEFC / Breakers Academy (MA) = 1
PDA (NJ) = 1

----------------------------------------
Class of 2019
FC Stars of Mass (MA) = 8
PDA (NJ) = 6
Bethesda SC (MD) = 4
Penn Fusion (PA) = 4
FC Boston Scorpions (MA) = 3
NEFC / Breakers Academy (MA) = 2
Richmond United (VA) = 2
Connecticut FC United (CT) = 2
Albertson SC (NY) = 2
SUSA FC (NY) = 1
World Class FC (NY) = 1
South Shore Select (MA) = 1
FC Pennsylvania (PA) = 1
FC Bucks (PA) = 1
Match Fit Academy (NJ) = 1
Continental FC DELCO (PA) = 1
Princeton SA (NJ) = 1

Anonymous said...

Do u have a link to see that information?

Anonymous said...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IbB3V_l4dzMu1PnuLIjX9bJyT9r9zn2voE_qefyFYko/htmlembed?gid=6&widget=false#

And, top players listed here. Can cross reference re college, grad year and club? Great source.

Anonymous said...

STAY AWAY from PDA Splash until they fire this coach. No they are not looking at new players for GDA. The coach is terrible and doesn't develop players. He's knows nothing about soccer and loyalty. They haven't won a game since June. Last year he brought new players in for the playoffs after getting a top seed and they couldn't get out of the first round. JB is the worst coach in NJ. Bring your daughte elsewhere if you want to further her soccer skills. Beardsley is awful.

Anonymous said...

Someone doesn't want their daughter to have competition at tryouts this year......

Anonymous said...

Or maybe just calling out an A-hole coach.

Anonymous said...

I have heard nothing of the sort - and we have players there that we know well.

Please - stop slinging mud - or at least be specific so the issues can be more directly addressed.

Teams of that calibre are always bringing in new talent so the 6 new player thing rings a bit hollow

I notice one-two players that left the team - have there been more the past 12-18 months?

Anonymous said...

The Beard is the worst coach in Nj. Stay away from PDA Splash. He will sell your daughter for a win. Too bad he has no wins this year! He only cares about himself.

Anonymous said...

Just one question if this coach is so bad why are you still there? I guess you don't mind that bad if you are keeping your kid there.

Anonymous said...

Here is a question for everyone.

If you daughter will be a Jr in HS next year, is the DA really worth it for her?
Lets say she has not committed to a college yet.


Anonymous said...

Yes
Unless she is already with ECNL and it's beneficial to her

Anonymous said...

@1/26 9:22pm
Look at info for boys DA. It talks about the college coach exposure
http://www.ussoccerda.com/overview-program-benefits

Anonymous said...

What if her ECNL club is going DA but keeping ECNL? So, ECNL would be 2nd tier at that club.

What if you are already committed to a college, would it still be worth it?

For boys, they state over 50% of all academy games are scouted. I am not sure in the beginning of the GDA it will be the same.

Has anyone heard if the GDA will prohibit HS play or not?

Anonymous said...

7:11 my 2 cents -

GDA is for serious players that want quality training 4 days a week so they can compete for a spot on a YNT or maybe even play pro some day. College is a given since these player pools should be the best of the best and will be a place to recruit.

ECNL is for the serious players that also want the above but have no GDA near them and for the players that did not make the GDA team at their club. College is a given.

That's the problem i think you guys are missing committed or not committed the GDA is for players that have national team dreams. If they don't - don't go and stop trying to change the GDA - it's an ACADEMY system for serious soccer players not players looking for scholarship money.

Anonymous said...

Thus players should not play DA unless they want to play for a national team? What about the superior training and exposure?

Anonymous said...

10:49 - well said. GDA isn't for everyone and it is being set up that way intentionally. Go to the level that best suits you/your child whatever it is.

Anonymous said...

12:35 what about it?

DA is set up for that purpose. Of course it will have everything you said and of course anyone can tryout and participate it's an Academy to create soccer players and I would guess this is for the players and parents willing to sacrifice. Money, travel, time away from school so if college is your priority maybe it's not the place for your kid if they are good and going to get NT looks.

Go NT camps in CA (a few times)
Play tournaments outside the US
this is in addition to the 4 days of training and tournaments they play with their academy club.

So if the girls are talking HS soccer then an Academy is not for them. Stick to ECNL or any other team preparing their players for College. Yes Academy players will go to top programs as not all will play NT - but they all want to play NT in the Olympics not HS soccer.

I agree 2:05 go to the level for your kid and be happy with it, the number of years our kids are going to play soccer can almost be counted on one hand unless of course your kid wants to be a pro - then I wish her good luck.

Anonymous said...

Can we have a good luck wish just for collegiate soccer?

Thanks.

Players often become "national team" - and even pros - by surprise. I wonder if you knew this.

Anonymous said...

much GDA bashing for an entity that hasn't even begun

Anonymous said...

And many kids burnout even before they finish high school. A lot of talk about training days and overuse injuries, but not much talk about psychology. Or, is burnout part of the development process, and those who cannot handle the mental side of the training pace and competition as an adolescent drop by the wayside leaving only the mentally strong for college and beyond?

Anonymous said...

Especially if you play for that weasel at PDA Splash - The Beard! He's lower than a slug. As slimy too. Beware don't take your daughter to him!!

Anonymous said...

You obviously have some agenda against the PDA Splash coach. Why are you still there?

Anonymous said...

We have no choice to play for this A-hole JB until the season is over.

Anonymous said...

***Warning*** Parents - stay away from PDA Splash until the Beard is removed. He is unfit to be around young women.

Anonymous said...

So your daughters have been pulled from his team right?
If I felt that way about coach, she wouldn't play....

Anonymous said...

always more than 1 choice, just choose wisely

Anonymous said...

1:50 PM

That is too thoughtful a post for this board - please dumb it down next time :)

PDA mom/dad

I feel for you in this situation. I don't know the details but it must have been pretty horrific - something other than simple playing time issues - for you to be so aggressive toward this coach.

I hope you guys end up in a good place.

Anonymous said...

LOL...PDA is and always has been, all about who you know and how much you can suck up. If you've made the team you're obviously very good, but what sets you apart from then next girl is how much of the coolade you drink, or how much your parents can suck up. With very good knowledge of that team, there are girls on there that are elevated to National pool/team status and getting verbal commits (1 to Rutgers, no surprise)that are quite FRANKly not very good.
How does one player go from not cracking the starting 11 with a previous coach to getting a YNT nod?

Anonymous said...

Love NJ and NY bloggers :)

Anonymous said...

9:31

You are on crack.

Anonymous said...

PDA is no different than any other Elite team (without going into the fact that they don't develop talent there), coaches will have favorites and those girls for whatever reason that they don't like. The chosen girls will play more and get a push while some will not play much. That all being said, some parents just know how to play the game much better than others.
I just happen to know the girls whose gotten the push there and they are not any better than anyone else, which opened my eyes to the old saying It's not what you know, it's who you know.
11:37, I'm assuming you know who I am talking about, so can you explain to me how a player can ride the bench with the head coach in the last age group and miraculously get a verbal from RU and a Natty pool invite?
One trick pony...how many times can you cut the ball back.
and just a hint, I'm not even talking about the girl who came from matchfit.

Anonymous said...

you sound like the cry baby from igfa

Anonymous said...

Wow, you have completely lost it. After attacking the PDA coach, now you are attacking its players. Looks like you don't like the competition - the sign of weakness.

Anonymous said...

Hillary lost. Get over the butt hurt

Anonymous said...

Actual outcome for an organization that decided to advance girls' soccer...
http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/over-1000-ecnl-class-of-2017-players-commit-to-ncaa-div-i-programs/

Anonymous said...

**Don't take your daughter to PDA Splash while the Beard is there! He is a disaster. Never developed any player. Just brings in different players if it doesn't go his way!! Don't get sucked in.

Anonymous said...

We all new PDA Splash would fall off with the new age realignment. 90% of last year's team was 2000. The strength in PDA isn't up north anymore in this age group. It's at the Shore.

Anonymous said...

If you're going to PDA for development, that's your fault. By this age group, your daughter better be an almost finished product.

Anonymous said...

If she is you are in trouble

Anonymous said...

1:04
I'm going to assume you meant that at this age, high percentage of the development has occurred...
However, not one college coach will want to hear "my daughter is a finished product" :)

Anonymous said...

From here on out its whats between the ears

Anonymous said...

You have no choice with that A-hole coach of the Splash! He's too in love with himself to develop players.

Anonymous said...

6:29 is your daughter playing for Beard?

Anonymous said...

Hoping and looking for some factual answers and experiences..
My daughter wants to tryout for DA at PF. We technically could drive to Classics or Spirit instead.
Other than travel expenses to the club, can I get pros and cons from any PF, Classic or Spirit parents?

Anonymous said...

haha good one
Can't wait to see those answers from parents that are worried their daughter will lose her spot to an outsider :)

Anonymous said...

PF hasn't announced the coaches for the DA. But I would guess the 01 coach will coach the 01/02 team. He is an outstanding trainer. All kids improve under his tutelage. His downside is he has clear favorites. Maybe this is just human, but he wears it on his sleeve. If your kid is among them then she will love it at PF. If not, she will have to work a little harder to win his favor. All training sessions are well organized and happen on time. Venues are excellent. Competition excellent. Have been with the club for 4 years. Not considering a change. Kid not interested in high school soccer.

I don't know much about PAC. This advice could apply to both clubs:

Maybe look on got soccer to see how they did against known competition. Go to ID sessions if they have them to gauge the player level and try to imagine how your kid will fit in. Watch a training session run by the named coach to get a feel of how he manages training and the kids. Ideally watch a game in March to see the coach and team in action. That's pretty much what we did when our kid wanted a change.

Anonymous said...

9:37

the word on the street is PF and CFC are merging.

If she can really make the DA then PF is the place to take her. PF is ready for DA, especially of they merge with CFC.

If it is a toss up that she can make PF then take her to PAC. She will be able to make the DA at PAC. They cant compete with ECNL teams right now. The PAC teams cant beat the NPL teams so they will need girls that can compete.

Both clubs will be holding DA ID Clinics soon enough. You will be able to take your daughter to those and see how she stacks up. You could just contact the clubs now and take her to practices.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info
We are going to meeting at PF and I've been doing my gs research
I haven't seen any info on PAC site since the original message regarding ID
They have our info, hoping to hear something

Anonymous said...

"They cant compete with ECNL teams right now. The PAC teams cant beat the NPL teams so they will need girls that can compete."
ECNL teams don't even play them do they? Many tournaments keep ecnl on their own

Anonymous said...

Merger won't happen for 201718 if at all. Talks are ongoing, but not happening for this next year.

Anonymous said...

I don't see merger happening soon if at all
PF has successful ecnl and now probably successful gda

Anonymous said...

Hasnt it been posted that it is a money thing - that CFC would be helping in that regard?

Mergers always tricky (coaches, where based, etc)

Anonymous said...

:) so PF needs money? That's a little funny and incredible

Anonymous said...

12:29 - If they cant beat the ECNL B teams , then they cant beat the ECNL teams.

12:53/1:28 - Do you guys know something? Rumors are merger will happen before DA.

1:55 - I think it is not so much money but fields for the DA. If PF merges with CFC they will not have to rent fields from them anymore.

Time will tell with everything

12:16 - Good luck to your daughter, I hope everything works out for her.

Anonymous said...

PF cannot have both GDA and ECNL.

In order to maintain cash flow, they will have to charge GDA players roughly the same price as ECNL, which kind of defeats the purpose of a DA.

PF GDA is essentially their PF ECNL.
Ultimately, this helps TM climb up higher on the US Soccer ladder...

Anonymous said...

"which kind of defeats the purpose of a DA" :)
So this is a program for the disadvantaged?
PF will end up with sheep shuffle, I don't think they will add teams but instead split up existing ones.
Where are all these new players coming from?

Anonymous said...

I feel a lot of girls will not want to stop playing HS soccer to play DA, if they already started HS.

It will be easier for the younger girls to skip HS for the DA.

Anonymous said...

Then play HS
Nothing but a choice

Anonymous said...

12:11 - 01 coach may be in for the 99/00's. He coaches 98/99. As you note, very good.

Anonymous said...

2:12 - he is very well respected by USSF and other DOC's already. But, thanks for playing.

Anonymous said...

What rentals? PF has it's own facilities and stadium. New fields installed at a common facility belong to each of those respective clubs. Both have a lot of players under their umbrella (boys and girls - all levels).

Anonymous said...

2:12 - who is saying that? That isn't what I am hearing. Did you read the soccerwire article? Rumor.

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that JB from the PDA Splash is going to be replaced.

Anonymous said...

Good that idiot shouldn't be coaching anyone.

Anonymous said...

Ah so the Great Blog has spoken. For the person bashing, you got your wish.

Anonymous said...

Is it for fact or just a rumor? Where do you get this info? I don't actually believe it is real...

Anonymous said...

The source is credible.

Anonymous said...

PAC haven’t done a very good job to date with their girl’s teams. The 98, 00 and 01 teams are weak and the club seems to be hiding the teams. They haven’t played in any high level events and their recent results vs. low level teams haven’t been very good. The current staff doesn’t seem to be suited for coaching talented female players. If PAC wants to become the top GDA they need to start making changes. If PAC improves the coaching staff, brings in a DOC that understands female players and grows the club by doing right by the female player, they shouldn’t have a problem keeping the Central PA players at home and drawing players from outside the area.

PF are doing a poor job developing homegrown female players. Recruiting has been the key to keeping things together at PF and without recruiting they would be in big trouble. Roster turnover at PF is huge and every year there are fewer players from the PF area on their ECNL rosters. Players don’t get better at PF; they just get replaced with other players that have been developed at other clubs. This isn’t a sign of a quality club and is a big part of the problem within girl’s soccer.

Right now 2001 players (2019-20 grads) and older don’t need the GDA for recruiting or getting on the national team. Players currently playing at the ECNL level should be identified by the ECNL NJ (PDA) recruiting event. There won’t be a reason to leave their current club team. For the players 2002 and younger, GDA will become the highest level for players. Of course it won’t be the only way to get college exposure, but it will be most direct path. Both clubs need to improve in a big way or they will quickly fall behind the rest.

Anonymous said...

You clearly have a problem with PF. I'm in the organization and say you are wrong. My daughter is doing extremely well there. You probably have another motive; to get kids to move. Competitor or looking for spots for own/others. Not everyone posts with good intentions.

Anonymous said...

@10:26 - Are you saying that all Clubs don't take kids that have talent that they can develop further? Are you also saying that some kids don't hit a ceiling? Rubbish. It's called athletics and it happens as kids get older. Happens all the time in all sports.

Anonymous said...

You say turnover at PF is huge. Like the poster above, I disagree. Many stay at PF. Plenty of the kids in their Club are the same. The fact the same kids keep returning is what you need to look at . And, they do.
I am sure the same with many Clubs. Oh, and my kid did come into PF from another club a year or two ago where she was not developing. She has been flourishing under their direction. So, you say they recruit. I say they provide opportunity. She sought them and hasn't looked back.

Anonymous said...

Considering a large part of the PF '02 team were playing for PL last year, there is some evidence that PF recruits over development, at least at the middle/high school break point.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely agree. The collection of players at the perceived "best" team has been the case for years before the ECNL/DA. Rosters experience some turn over for year to year as early developers hit their ceiling and/or lose interest and the success of the team and reputation of the coach attracts the better players from the area. There is nothing new there. I actually think that PF has an unusually large number of players who were original WCUSC kids present in their older age groups. In the older 3 age groups with the age change there was very little roster turnover. I am not sure the 99/98 and 00 even added any new players.

The 01 coach is one of the best trainers in the NE. If your kid can play for him you should be thrilled.

Regarding PAC. I think you are being too hard on them. MH is a good coach. The 00 team isn't terrible and the 01 team at least tried and went to Disney. I think, and this is just my opinion I don't have insider info, they will bring in a new coach with an A license to coach the 99/00 team and MH will take the 01/02s. Possibly the opposite. Although I think SK coaches both older boys teams so MH may coach both. That would not be a bad thing. The real question is will they have any movement back from PF of the Central PA kids (a lot of the 02 team was Penn Legacy and one excellent 01 started at PAC) or conversely, will the best kids from HMMS, LDC, PL, Pipeline, premier strikers come to PAC and augment their top players to create a competitive team in the DA?

Anonymous said...

The 00 team isn't terrible and the 01 team at least tried and went to Disney???

The PAC 01 and 00 teams have had poor results against low level PAGS teams. There is nothing now or in the history of the PAC girls program that shows they should be in the GDA. So if the leadership couldn't do right in the past what is going to make it change now?

So will bringing in players from other places be the solution? Baltimore Armour or Pipeline are going to get GDA when it expands. I don't think you should count on building your future with players from Maryland. Transform the PAC girls program now and you won't have to worry about players leaving Central PA, because if you don't change the program players will continue to go to other clubs. PAC shouldn’t be like the other club, PAC should build their own players first and bring in players from other places to supplement rosters second. It should not be the other way around. It can be done.

Anonymous said...

They tried and went to Disney?
What does that mean?
They went, played well and lost championship game in pk shootout

Anonymous said...

Um, I think the poster was trying to say essentially that PAC was trying to get the players seen on a more than regional basis in going to Disney. Would not be bragging about a finalist in one of the lowest brackets. Just take the compliment. You just weakened his point.

Anonymous said...

Seriously why in the world would you think Unerarmour and pipeline would get a girls DA spot. They aren't even close.
Like it or not the GDA will be a big draw. maybe not next year while some take a wait and see position, but soon.It happened with the boys and it will also happen witht he girls. The USSF will attract the best hoping for YNT camps and the next tier of hopefuls will follow. No doubt in a few years, maybe after our kid's time, there will be a clear winner.

PAC does poorly because the best kids leave the area for the ECNL. Now that they have the same draw, since PF will keep GDA, they will regain those kids unless they provide a terrible coach and team. Unlikely to happen. PAC just got a big boost.

Anonymous said...

There will be kids that stick around PAC area and some that still travel to PF. The PF kids have been playing ECNL for years. Kind of an advantage already. I am not dissing PAC at all. I think they are a good organization, good coaches and players. There will be a some hiccups, but it should be fine.

Anonymous said...

Local girls will still travel to PF
Only caveat is if the club announces list of new trainers or new girls DOC that attracts PF girls to stay

Anonymous said...

800 I agree for the last couple of years and before PAC gets its act together, the local kids wont leace PF. My point was in the future, maybe as early witht he PL 02, PAC won't lose those kids to PF any longer and will probably compete for the Harrisburg kids too. Reading more than likely also. If they put together an equivalent or better program they will keep the flood eastward at bay.

Anonymous said...

From time to time PAC has established a "West" team, which has catered to kids west of the Susquehanna. These teams seem to have had more of an affiliated relationship or special circumstances, but if PAC institutionalized such a program with "East" and "West" teams, and perhaps merged with one of the Harrisburg area clubs, it could dominate the Central PA market.

Anonymous said...

MH is an excellent coach. Best I've seen and I've seen a lot. His 02 team is very good. They do very well in the top bracket at all of the top tournaments. PAC 01 coach is not comparable to him. May be the problem there. If Lancaster and Harrisburg area girls travel to PF next year so be it. Their loss if MH is coach.

Anonymous said...

The poster that said the PF 01 coach plays favorites is spot on. He is a good trainer however come game time he likes who he likes and those are the players that get the most play time. He is also very well known for telling parents/players anything they want to hear, not necessarily the truth.

The decision for my daughter will come down to Coaching. ANY DA club is going to get your child great exposure.

Anonymous said...

Not my experience re that coach. I find him to be refreshingly frank and extremely well respected in the soccer world.

Anonymous said...

9:51
MH has been a constant for girls side
Haven't heard much negative for 01 coach, team seems decent
Many hope to see him playing a big role in GDA
The addition of a "new" girls DOC would do wonders

Anonymous said...

MH grabs the perceived most talented teams. Although most of the powerful coaches and DOC do the same everywhere. I would expect him to be named girls DOC. He took the 99/00 team at U13 when he thought they were going to be good and then kids left for PF leaving him with a weak team so he gave them to NH and they were lost. This year the 00 team was supposed to go to TH, not sure what happened there, but the MH stepped in because he had the 00/01 before anyway after he swapped out the 99/00. Wonder if he's still in the picture for PAC next year. He's obviously tied into the USSF as the MTC guy for the EPA area.

I would expect MH to take at least one of the older DA teams if not both. I can't remember for sure but I think AR brought the 02/01 up through U-littles. He is a phenomenal U-little coach. PAC has good bones. With a little fleshing out could easily dominate Central PA. Expect the Harrisburg clubs to consider some partnerships to stay relevant beyond u-littles.

PF 01 coach is a good guy. A teacher and well trained. He does wear his favorites on his sleeve and that is his weakness. He is an outstanding trainer. One of the best.

Anonymous said...

EPA and CPA are blessed to have such great options for the most talented girls now and in the future. I suspect that CPA will be relieved to be able to stay out of the Philly traffic.

Anonymous said...

11;15
Heard similar things from an ex-PAC parent whose daughter went to PF
There have been a few other unplanned coaching changes, not sure what happened. I also heard birth year changes were not kind to the club.
If TH is still involved, one would think this would attract players.

Anonymous said...

There will no longer be a reason for Central PA players to travel to Penn fusion now that the DA is there. Equal ground with the exposure now being at the same level and PA classics has some very good coaches, MH being just one.

Anonymous said...

Certainly should catch the attention of the my kid should be at YNT camp crowd. But in all reality the USSF definitely has its eye on PAC as the "birthplace" of Pulisic. Would think a special player coming out of that club would have an edge with the feds.

Anonymous said...

for a player searching perhaps but I don't see an existing pf player returning "home" if established at pf with good standing. That is not player 16-24 on the roster....

Anonymous said...

Uh..travel expense, travel time which affects school work/studying, extra time away from family...Would make a difference to me if there was a DA 10-30 minutes away compared to 1-2 hours away!

Anonymous said...

12:47 - That's what my daughter says, and it is her decision. She says that she does not want to spend her life in the car, even if it means playing for a so-called "lesser" club. The player needs to buy into and own the process, not the parent. The parent guides, the player decides.

Anonymous said...

12:57
Existing top PF player or not? Makes a diff
Other wise i agree

Anonymous said...

Exactly and it won't be any "lesser" of a club starting this year. ECNL member importance goes out the window as it now becomes all about DA.

Anonymous said...

Well not necessarily. Some of us driving our kids, paying for gas etc and/ or trending academic performance and teenaged angst may decide for them if travel 1-2 hours is not feasible for the family or child. Even assuming they want the further option.

Anonymous said...

1:05
So I have a Plymouth Cruiser and just put a Porsche logo on it. Is it now a Porsche? Just slapping a DA emblem on a club is the beginning...
ECNL label has been leader for girls side, not just fading away

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