Wildcats coach I'm sure played to win as that his is low level ability to understand how things really work as he is only looking to line his pockets with parents that are uneducated on the correct approaches. It won't last long as Cedar Stars will be taking all the better players & any coach decent enough to help get players to them. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Yeah right. We are all lining up to join those 2 Shysters on the girls side at Cedar Stars! Those 2 have been with every Club in the state of NJ between them. And a cloud of corruption has followed them from stop to stop.
Cedar Stars doesn't have any teams on girls side that will be in decent flights at showcase age groups U15-U17. Their U14 team last year, NJCSA Elite was a pretty good team, a flight 3 Finalist at Bethesda but all but 1 player from that team left this year rather than play for the new coaches and new DOC at Cedar Stars. It is a Catch 22 at the Showcase age groups. If you don't get good results you will be flighted low and if you want to play at a D1 School you need to be on a competitive Team that plays in the F1 or at least F2 or those coaches will not be at your teams games. The College Coaches at D1 Level want to see prospects playing against top level competition to get a realistic look at a player.
Cedar has team that left Cats and went to Cedar Stars, that team should be top or 2nd flight, depending on tournament.
And yes, those guys have been around the block for sure. but many kids love to play for them. They are passionate
There is no team that left Cats and went to Cedar Stars. Notice you didn't mention the age group?This is another example of the dishonest and dishonorable way you promote and run your soccer business.
There may be some players who love to play for them, but saying"players love to lay for them is false". There are many of us out there who have been burned by these 2 and wouldn't let our children go near them. Just ask around at any of the clubs they have worked for as well.
Please proof read comments to prevent typos from completely changing the meaning of your thoughts to something we hope you did not mean to say.
8:52We'd appreciate it if you could give some specifics on how players/parents were "burned" by Cedar Stars.Thanks
I think the poster was clear that these 2 have history of "burning" players, teams and clubs" and quick exits one step ahead of the Dog Catcher at their many previous stops. Clubs, Teams and players have been left to fold or dig their way out in the wake of their exits. Further proof that nothing will change is that the lying has continued in the form of these pipe dreams about players and teams all leaving their strong and highly flighted teams at U15-u17 showcase years to play for these weak and unproven Cedar Stars Teams. It is ridiculous to try and build their teams through lies and trying to mislead players into coming to them by false promises and making up stories about the players they have on board. What happens when these players who they do hoodwink into moving find out the truth about the make up and quality of their "new" Teams? The same thing that has always happened in the past, broken promises and the kids pay the price.
Well said. Couldn't agree more. Leopards don't change their spots.
With BYC, U15 is now a semi-showcase age group. Some tournaments have a U15 showcase format, some do not start showcase format until U16. In any event, U15s will not be a high showcase priority. Therefore, as always, team play remains important for team reputation as teams move forward to true showcasing at U16.
It's because the early recruiting has increased in U15 as well. The college coaches want to see showcases for the younger kids.
Yep. Just saw a 2020 ND commit (MN Thunder Academy) posted on the recruiting sheet/list. wow!
Team that "left Cats and went to C Stars" is NJCSA Elite (last year U14)
Yes, congratulations to the 9th - and even 10th graders that commit early (Rutgers just added a ninth grader, I believe)For the family that does commit this soon, you have to figure thata) there is a strong tie to the school aside from soccerb) MUCH money is being guaranteedc) both
The u14 Wild Cats Galaxy just moved to Cedars as U15. Girls U15 (2002) CEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2002 GALAXY. And we know the coaches very well. lets put it this way, with the younger kids, who do not care about winning they are not for them. For older kids who want to win they are good. They also do decent training.
All the Cedar Stars-Wildcats posts are nothing but noise. All I need to know is Cedar Stars is a member of the Girls Development Academy and my daughter will be at the try outs.This other nonsense that posters are carrying on about means absolutely NOTHING!!
Not talking about the Monmouth team, 12:14Cedar Stars bought up a slew of teams. Monmouth just one of the many. Nothing special there - I was talking about NJCSA Elite (The CSA stands for Cedar Stars, get it?)
@4:15, yes sir, very involved with situation, Cedar Stars etc. I like that CSA/NJCSA has DA, of course that should attract many top lady players all over. But can they win, can they beat PDA, MF, GFA, Wild Cats, Boca, NJ Rush, SJEB, that is the question. Lets see how many leave those teams for the DA at Cedars?
Correct me if I'm wrong 12:37 - but so what if they can't win as long as they play the right way - calm and under control - none of this STEP - WINDOW - SEND IT stuff. A team that plays like that with good soccer athletes can do well but that doesn't mean the players are better. The team might be better but so what I don't care besides talking about the results on this board.
MF is clear top team at this age,with the new girls they pick up,they can now score up top,look for them to be top team around
11:45 Have you seen the WC roster that is posted on the ECNL website? Looks like they picked up the top players from NYSC including the National team goalie. ECNL will have some great games this year
Again not true. last years U14 NJCSA Team left as a team and went to Boca for U15 last I heard rather than play for coaches at Cedar Stars. Only 1 or 2 players from last years U14G NJCSA Elite stayed on at Cedar Stars.
12:04Yes, World Class did a fine job in the offseason with their recruiting pitches/tryout turnout.But are players that go there getting better?
WC is always good, for several years. Always.
I guess we'll all see, but the WC girls that were there before the birth year split did win this conference 2 years ago, and the PDA team that won this age group last year were mostly 2000's. All the shake ups for all teams should be good.
"WC is always good"Sure. But in GOOD there are different levels.
Stallions U16 are solidBut I heard they amassed their point total using guest players (5th in NYCSL NPL but second in NJ?)
relax stallion dad,gfa moved on so you may win something this year.
Quite a few solid teams in NYCSL NPL at U16Should be a fun season(I will read now as you rip each team to pieces, 8:47)
8:47 so the GFA 01 team at CASL is not the good one? Ouch - they used the Good team's account and will probably placed very high. If they have a bad event (easy games for the other teams)they might not see another high flight again and GFA will have a black eye for trying to play the system.So either you don't know what you are talking about or GFA will hurt the 01s by putting them in a position to fail if what you write is true and the good GFA team is 00. Only time will tell.
Stallions u16 have never used a guest player for any event. They simply played too much soccer in the spring season with region 1 all the showcases and the npl. They will always be a strong team with their brand of soccer and will feature in the top brackets of all major showcases. This fall its surf, casl and disney. A great platform for those wishing to get top exposure for their kids.
Sure - just players that came in and arent there anymore
GFA top team went '00 but with some '01 playersTHe '01 NPL team is last year's U14 plus whoever was addedBUT....of course they will bring '01s from their team that is playing UP (the best team they have) when they attend CASL and other eventsWill you see some of them play NPL games as well? Maybe.
10:46 that's my point big diff between last year's u14 & U15 teams for GFA.Those 01 have to be magic because they will be placed in a high flight at CASL against top 01 teams and with BYC a bad showing will kill future top flights for any team not showing well. If the team is ready it's a spring board but if they are not they will go down the list of showcase flights when it matters the most.My point is be honest with your teams as this will be the most important time first look after BYC. So do you play to win or to showcase? The last thing you want is to lose 5-0 in a top flight 3 times.
Likely they are taking their top team to CASL, minus the '00s, of course.'01s from the actualy U16 NPL team will be sprinkled inGFA Princeton NPL U17 is not attending
are casl brackets out? should be
Just for U15
Forget CASL that's in Dec how about Bethesda? 20 days away
IGFA #1 .... Two age groups 00/01 .. Can't wait for high school season to be over .
everybody talks without knowing facts . yes 7:28 only time will tell.
Lol HS school is almost over and all the idiots are back already. Great.
GFA buried in lower bracket at casl.
11:30 Like I said before only time will tell. The teams in flights that don't belong will show it and it will be obvious to the Spring tournaments who belongs and who doesn't. The one thing college coaches hate more than anything is watching a game that's not close it's a waste of everyone's time.
12:29 absolutely right. This season is more meaningful as a learning to play together season than for results. In the spring we will see who is who. People on the u15 blog making assumptions based on scrimmages. Just plain stupid.
Thanks 1:06If you look at Discovery Cup you can see that McLean is a top flight team and 1776 isn't. Not because they won 2-0. But by what they did in group play 23-1 goal differential to 9-0. I hate saying it - but know more than ever if a team can drop a 10 to prove they are in the wrong flight they should do it. BYC is a do over and by crushing the other team there is nothing to discuss, look at NEFC last year they dropped double digits when ever they could. They should never try to stop scoring it's the the other teams job to stop them. No one benefits if you take your foot off the gas you just make the event people look bad as they wasted everyone's time.McLean won 2 games 13-1 vs the same teams 1775 played and beat 5-0. yes it's a showcase and everyone should play that why mcLean proved to be a deep top flight team while 1776 did not, in my opinion. No knock on 1776 as this was a warm up for their NL games wish them luck.Also adding Albertson was out scored 1-6 by mclean and 1776 not even sure where i would add them. They are lucky events like CASL will keep them away from some of the non-ecnl premier teams.1776 UNITED FC XTREME4-0 BETHESDA SC STORM 011-0 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL4-0 QUICKSTRIKE FC QSFC 01' NPLMCLEAN ECNL5-1 ALBERTSON SC8-0 BETHESDA SC STORM 0110-0 ELITE S.C. PREMIER
Teams use players that wont be with them the entire season. Thus early scores can be misleading.
misleading or not -you can't throw them away and give a team a bye are you saying Albertson should be given a bye for getting creamed and McLean's early dominance means nothing when you compare the two.So you would flight Albertson higher? BYC created a do over right now we don't know who's who. These early results will clear that up.McLean head and shoulders above Albertson and 1776 when you look at the Discovery Cup field of teams. Players make choices all the time to play or not to play a good team doesn't skip a beat and doesn't rely on a player or two.
Sorry to change the topic but I was wondering if any parents have used a good video editing software for putting together and highlighting clips? Ideally for apple. Secondly it seems like there are aton of college recruiting websites. Anyone really like any of them? They mostly seem like a waste of money.
9:23 I give you credit. Our first time around with HS soccer spiling to club after club spilled right into HS.Our kid will be taking it easy this winter and going forward only what club is doing in regards to training - no leagues and games.
7:36 - No credit due to 9:23. It's a spam post fishing for people willing to check out the link. Don't follow the link. I don't there is even such a league.
Meant to say, "I don't think there is even such a league."
is CaptainU a good site to invest in for recruiting?
What is the point to posting misinformation (also called outright lies) on a girls youth soccer blog? this is not a political blog . please be honest. if you don't have actual facts, don't post. Only the team members (and sometimes not even then) know the actual facts.
Facts? Cmon. This is the place for hearsay, rumors, and more.
EDP Cup Fall Showcase brackets are out, more teams than I thought are headed to this, in light of other Nov events to go to.
Agreed with fall showcase. Many team, but Betheseda is week before, and Newws weekend after, leaving this weekend open in a way. Plus hs is over.
Maybe I'm missing something I see the list of coaches attending the EDP CUP Fall showcase many are coming from Division 3 schools. I was told Division 3 schools cannot offer athletic scholarships so what is the point for them to attend showcase and recruit girls for the school? Doesn't that cost money to the school for those coaches to go away and attend and recruit.
Probably better for the D3 coach to know who is coming in, rather than just waiting for the first day of his tryouts, no?Yes, players do COMMIT to D3s, even with no money. And coaches plan ahead - using - in part - showcases.
Not always about the dollars it's also about getting into a school you wouldn't have gotten into with your grades.
4:56 makes a point 5:51 if you are saying soccer will get a child into a school of choice even without the grades does that justify the recruiting dollars spent on a girl wasting a school's funding trying to get recruit for D3 if she has below or average grades for that school. Would it be a school's objective to target a student with better grades that has a better overall chance to get $$$. Word of advice as I've had an older daughter go through the recruiting process soccer is soccer but no school will ever turn down a child for good grades.
Not sure about you guys (4:56, 5:51 & 10:37), but the schools on my kid's list accept less than 10% of the applications they get. This is where soccer helps out money or no money. All the kids that apply to these schools have good grades just like my kid. What makes 2 kids with a 3.89 GPA different? If one plays soccer and is good enough to contribute to the team, I would think she moves ahead. No?
Maybe less so in women's sports, then men's (a pragmatic observation not meant to be sexist), but team GPA is a valued statistic and there is always a need for studious benchwarmers that can contribute to the team GPA.
are you serious? Do you think coaches bring on a student athlete so they can boost a GPA with the intention of them never playing. A coach's job regardless of what division, is for the program to win. They recruit the best players to help the program. Their job security is based on the success of the program not necessarily the GPA. They are not mutually exclusive however.It is in the best interest of the Coach to have all the kids and the team to have a more than adequate GPA so no player is in academic jeopardy and no kid wants to be ineligible to play due to grades. Coach can help with monitoring grades, setting up student tutors and study groups, but they wont take kids as just benchwarmers/GPA padding.
224 Thank You for being a voice of reason and reality. Total agree coaches job is to put the best possible team together not get a 2nd rate players with a high GPA to average out the team's GPA that is absolutely non-sense. Sorry but like a previous poster said get great grades nobody turns you away.
Coaches look at GPA's (and classes taken) re potentially getting add'l help with money from academic scholarships available and also gives them assurance that the child should be academically eligible throughout playing career. GPA is important (and not just GPA, but SAT scores, PSAT, ACT, if applicable) for certain elite level athletic/academic schools like Stanford, etc.
358 No kidding most of everyone on here knows that stuff is important but the conversation is about Division 3 schools and you have great grades you'll get in with out soccer. So the point is does playing soccer really give a player a edge in getting acceptance .v grades?
Yes, even for D3, if there is a school where it would be borderline on acceptance the soccer coach can inch things in your favor with admissions.Don't think just because you have good grades and good SAT or ACT any D3 is a shoe in...just like D1 there are different degrees of schools.D3 you could go to Ramapo College or Johns Hopkins.D1 you could go Rider University or Stanford.
It's no different than DI or DII in that respect. If the applicant has something special about herself that can help the school in other areas as well (athletics, theatre, band), then that child has a edge. Re athletic success, DIII coaches don't have the same pressure as DI who are giving out money to play/perform so they may not vet the applicant as much.
John Hopkinsaccepted 11.5% of 27k applicationsthat's 24k kids that were told NOThe average GPA was 3.9395% of the students were in the top 10% of their classSo I think soccer would help your kid get in if they weren't in the top 10% or their GPA was a little above 3, maybe I'm wrong and If i am so be it. at least I supported my kid doing something she loves.Some might want D1 and that's cool but not every body does.
520 Sorry if your daughter is not in the top 10% of her class and GPA is a little over 3 then schools like John Hopkins should not even be considered for soccer of education as she may struggle academically if she is trying to balance soccer and classes. I'm not saying it may not be a dream but many girls that are playing club right now are shooting for D1/DII option first then come Jr./Sr. year they look at other options at D3.
Soccer player gets in to elite academic school ahead of some kids that had better academic qualification.Player gets Cs, some Bs across her 4 years, treads water a bit but stays afloat - and eligible.Gets DEGREE from a great institution and really knows how to work as she enters the job market. The Cs and Bs dont matter.Believe it.
5:30 thats a joke. Lots of schools ivies stanford etc much harder to get in than to graduate. They really arent that hard unless you want physics/engineering. Why discourage kids from going to the best school they can get into?
9:10PM - unfortunately it is the reality. Top notch school is competitive, athletes or non-athletes. All those athletes applying to Ivy, or top schools are all good or great athletes, but they are also great in academics. If 2 players apply, one applicant is a bit better player but her grade is all B, C. Then another applicant is a bit inferior player but all A student, the school/coach debate which one they take. There is no way school take academically lower but better athlete without question. I saw some ECNL players trying to go to Yale, Columbia ID camps.. They are from my daughter's school. They are academically OK, probably B~B+ students with a few honor classes. I highly doubt school cares about them just because they are from competitive club, ECNL level. Schools like Ivy ultimately consider the academic aspect of students strongly.Yes, it is harder to graduate than get into those schools as you mentioned. But it is already harder to get into those schools as the competition for admission is already tough.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/sports/before-athletic-recruiting-in-the-ivy-league-some-math.html
4:27 poster here...I said the key word BORDERLINE.I didn't say trying to get into an IV or Stanford with C's.
Sorry maybe I was not clear. I think iv stanford etc are easier to graduate than to get in. So if you can be a 3.0 student and get into stanford because you can play there thats the ideal scenario. Unless you are a 2.5 student you can do well at any school. Use soccer to go to the best one you can. You can always transfer if really struggling. But better results to transfer from stanford than a b levelSchool.
Spot on, 11:13.Key also is be PREPARED to transfer (at some point) if playing is very important. It all has to factor in from the beginning of the process.Often a player falls back to a school as a transfer that had recruited him/her as a high schooler.
Lowest acceptance rates and they turn down some really smart kids.Soccera plus but so are those grades along with some other factors.5.1% Stanford University6.0% Harvard University6.3% Yale University 7.0% Columbia University 7.1% Princeton University 7.9% Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) 7.9% United States Naval Academy8.7% Brown University 8.8% California Institute of Technology8.8% University of Chicago 9.5% United States Military Academy
I had the rates a bit higher than that.What is your source? I will certainly go and read it.Thanks
Bethesda brackets out.
EDP Showcase also out
Below top two brackets at U16 Betheseda Showcase format. I like Navy in top bracket and McLean ECNL in B bracket. Alberston seems to be a good club in general, but somehow we never played them. Betheseda can be beaten as can Harford and STA, I am not sure about IMG. ALBERTSON SC BETHESDA SCNJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL NAVY 2001 (FKA S HARFORD FC UNITED IMG ACADEMY U16 MCLEAN ECNL STA 2001G NPL
Realizing this is a showcase and not a "competitive" tournament, the results may not show who's really the better team but with that caveat, Bethesda is overrated and shouldn't be in the top bracket. But it's their tournament so they are taking advantage of it. Navy and Fury did well in top flight at WAGS so no complaint there. Albertson is in just because they have ECNL behind their name.In the second bracket, Harford and IMG don't belong there. Harford has already lost to BRYC this year and barely beat McLean's B team, so I would say expect them to do poorly but they'll still finish ahead of IMG.Both BRYC and Maryland United have better claims to be in the top bracket than Bethesda and Albertson as BRYC and Maryland United both beat Albertson last time they played, and BRYC beat Bethesda last time they played.
3:08 What are you going off of? Last year's U14 or U15 results? We really have no idea who' good and who's not. While I normally would agree with the Showcase comment, I think the results are important this year when it comes to Jefferson Cup flights and events after that because BYC and the big unknown.
Funny stuff. What records are you going off of 3:08?I agree with the last poster, placement in other tournaments is at stakeOne caveat though...our team(and others I'm sure) is already accepted into Jeff Cup so...
Youth Soccer RankingsTeams are only ranked if they have played 10 games.39.67 MCLEAN YOUTH ECNL (VA)38.99 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE)38.20 ARLINGTON SA ARL RED (VA)37.94 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY (VA)37.69 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)37.04 BEACH FC RED (VA)36.63 VIRGINIA RUSH (VA) 36.57 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL (VA)36.46 LOUDOUN SOCCER RED (VA)36.32 MCLEAN YOUTH GREEN (VA)The below 5 would replace the bottom 5 above if they played min games required to be ranked38.46 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) [3 games]38.21 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD) [3 games]37.99 NEW YORK SURF SC LI (NYE) [4 games]37.87 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) [4 games]37.74 NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE (NYE) [3 games]
Arlington and BRYC have already played twice this season and BRYC has won both games. Rush has beaten Beach when they played. Seems like Youth Soccer Rankings is not very accurate.
Actually, Youth Soccer rankings very accurate. Your two examples: There is 0.26 points between Arlington and BRYC which means a close game will be played between the two not much separation and both times 1 goal was the difference.Beach is 0.41 points better than Rush which translates to another toss up -result was a 1 goal victory for Rush.From their site - Each team is assigned a score that is measured in goals. To predict the goal difference when two teams play each other simply subtract the score of one team from the score of the other.When BRYC played FCV Ashburn they won by 3, BRYC was favorite by 3.15 according to this site. Is it perfect hell no -but they are right more times than not and with such a small sample size of games that's not bad.So I would argue very accurate.
- yawwwwwnnnnnnn -
10:13. Finally someone with a brain on here. Its by far the best ranking system.
I just searched for Players Development Academy and a few others on this Youth Soccer ranking system. Didn't appear. I guess doesn't include all teams, yet.
Saw this posting as I was going to post the same thing. Does the Club have to register its teams to be included?
Officially, a team must have 10 recorded games played to enter the YSR ranking. Remember, unlike GS, YSR zeroed out all rankings and started fresh with the BYC. That said, there are a few teams that have entered the rankings with a little less than 10 games played. It all depends if enough data is publicly available on a team for YSR to make a comparative assessment. Many teams do not yet appear in the YSR rankings because they have not been playing many recorded games either in tournaments or leagues.
11:03 How many games have those teams played that you researched? You can also display teams with less that 10 games played by clicking the option to display unranked teams. For the region 1 teams there are 62 teams playing this weekend at Bethesda to add 3 games to their totals (not all are region1).
Re: Bethesda"....it is a showcase and not a competitive tournament"It can be - and should be - both
As more teams start to play more teams will enter the top 10 and others will fall out.EDP, NEWSS, CASL, PA Classics, NPL Showcase and Disney and many others will change the Region1 rankings.As of today with the 3rd Bethesda day not listedbelow is the Region 1 Youth Soccer Rankings (teams over 36.00 only)39.50 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION (MD) [2 games]38.65 MCLEAN YOUTH ECNL (VA) [15 games]37.65 SUSA ELITE (NYE) [4 games]37.65 CONTINENTAL FC NPL (PAE) [2 games]37.62 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) [2 games]37.46 NEW YORK SURF SC LI (NYE) [4 games]37.17 EAST MEADOW SC (NYE) [4 games]37.12 EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER (NYW) [2 games]36.94 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) [3 games]36.91 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) [6 games]36.87 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) [14 games]36.77 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE) [2 games]36.65 PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) [2 games]36.52 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA) [15 games]36.40 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) [13 games]36.39 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE NPL (NYE) [2 games] 36.37 NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE (NYE) [5 games]36.26 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) [5 games]36.15 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD) [5 games]36.11 CEDAR STARS ACADEMY MONMOUTH (NJ) [2 games]36.02 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) [2 games] 36.01 BEACH FC RED (VA) [18 games]
link to those rankings please?
Hey, thank you. Is this just based on the games already played? So if your team hasn't played yet, they are not listed (which makes sense)?
Wheres GFA?They were great last year,i am sure they will be #1 in the end
That GFA team is playing U17Princeton IGFA does have a U16 but it is not the same makeup
NEWSS brackets are outTop flight isJersey Shore BocaAlbertson ECNLSTA NPLBeachside FCMatch Fit ECNLWatchung HillsCFC (CT) EDCNLUnionville (CAN)
interesting, remember Boca is old NJCSA/Manalapan team. CFC is always good, and not sure about this Canadian team. MF should be in finals at least.
What is link for NEWSS bracket?
Some changes already to NEWSS bracketWe may see more.I agree with the guy that said - just give us some decent fields and good health. Season is young.
@ 2:45 We know the old NJCSA/Manalapan was infamous for bringing extra players/ringers to tournaments. Even as this is a college showcase, I would not put it past them to make this into something it's not. That's just my opinion for what it's worth, which is not much.
Anyone know when they'll post schedule for Newss?They win the award for slow admin process
I guess no NEWSS is good news.
NEWSS schedule will be out no later than Black Friday. Saturday morning at the latest!!
A couple of more changes made to the bracketsGood to see they are taking input and being reasonable about moving teams where they will be most competitive
7:48worst part is you're probably right
No schedules at this point is a joke.
Schedule is finally out and it looks like another winning weekend for the PDA teams.
Youth Soccer Rankings USA region 1 top 2540.04 MCLEAN YOUTH ECNL (VA)39.73 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION (MD)38.68 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 38.53 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)38.43 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 38.42 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)38.39 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)38.38 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)38.33 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE NPL (NYE)38.15 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)37.78 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)37.73 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) 37.39 BEACH FC RED (VA) 37.38 SUSA ELITE (NYE)37.37 EAST MEADOW SC MEADOW (NYE)37.35 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)37.24 FC FREDERICK FREDERICK (MD) 37.21 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ) 37.14 EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER (NYW)37.11 NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE (NYE)37.08 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) 37.08 PITTSBURGH RIVERHOUNDS ACADEMY (PAW)37.06 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)36.99 VIRGINIA RUSH RUSH (VA) 36.97 NEW YORK SURF SC LI (NYE)
There is just no way to comment on these rankings. Dont know which players are where.But I will say it is a HOOT that NY Surf LI is ranked at all.
NEWSS should add some teams to these rankings as will CASL & NL Showcase the following week and PA Classics the week after that. Plus we still have NPL Showcase and Disney to name a few more. NY Surf is a pick-em vs every team below BRYC. Keep in mind a few of the rankings are a little lower because they have some 0-3 forfeits included based on the website.
And for those that like Gotsoccer below are your Region 1 top 25Keepin mind some teams used u14 accounts while others used u15 accountshard to say what we are looking at here. This will take 12 months to iron itself out1. BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/022. NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL3. PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) 4. SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACAD6. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/027. NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS - DELETE8. STA 2001G NPL9. WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES 10. ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL11. SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP12. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL13. GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT14. BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 0115. CENTURY V 01 GOLD 16. NEW YORK SURF SOCCER 18. SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA 200119. PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL20. SUSA ISA NPL G0121. SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT22. NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE23. SUSA ELITE G0124. PIPELINE SC BLACK25. MCLEAN ECNL
Just for the record any u15 account used from last season is illegal in my view. As no players born in 2000 can be U16 this season but they were on the u15 rosters that accumulated the Gotsoccer points. Gotsoccer dropped the ball here.
2016-17 National League - starts up in 2 weeksBlackNationals Union 01 Black (MI)Beadling 2001 Elite (PA-W)FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)Florida Elite 2001 (FL)TFA Elite 01 (OH-S)Fullerton Rangers 01 White (CA-S)SLSC Comos 01 Lawless (OK)PacNW 01 Maroon (WA)BlueGreater Binghamton FC (NY-W)FC Frederick 01 (MD)Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI)2001 Tennessee SC Showcase (TN)LFSA Select (IL)Legends FC 01 (CA-S)TFCA 01 Alliance (NC)La Roca Premier FD (UT)RedBRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA)1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)CUP Gold 01 (OH-S)Lonestar 01 TCL Composite (TX-S)Midwest United FC 01 Royal (MI)FC Elk Grove 02 Platinumn 1 (CA-N)United FA 01 Premier (GA)Celtic FC Premier SA (UT)WhiteKings Hammer Academy Red (KY)Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)Nationals Unions 01 Red (MI)FC Alliance 01 (TN)EGA 01 Maroon Omaha (NE)Legends FC 01 Academy 01 CSA Charlotte Predator (NC) USA Stars 01 (CA-N)
Got soccer did not drop the ball here. The rules were changed on them. The situation you describe with last year u15 earning points with 2000 players exists in all age groups. You can't just reset the entire system back to zero. Remember that points expire 12 months after the event took place so if you don't perform this year then points will go away and you will get poor results and all will be normalized in a few months.
8:41 I am not saying resetting anything. I'm saying this is a 2001 or U16 board. No results using 2000 players should ever be used by any tournament to compare to teams that used 2002 players 1 or the other.Look at this age group NJ Stallions, Premier SC and NJ Elite to name a few were nowhere near the top of last year's U14 rankings their results couldn't hold water. So by taking their older team's results and comparing them to the younger teams they look stronger. All the teams were unknowns and since they didn't want to start over pick ONE is all i'm saying no mixing and because they allowed mixing they dropped the ball in my opinion.I agree in 12 months all will be fixed but until then some teams will be in lower flights and others in higher flights based on the accounts they used potentially because there is no way to know what teams are today.
NJ Elite won their bracket in EDP Winter Showcase last year as well as their bracket in NEWSS. The team was made up of mostly 01s with a few very good 00s. They were in the top 10 according to Got Soccer by November of 2015 and have remained there since. If your team is playing in a lower flight because of this ranking system then they should be able to win the majority of those tournaments and gradually work their way back up. Look at IGFA 01 and 00 teams. IGFA was made up of mostly 00 that are now U17 but their 01 team who is currently ranked 15 according to Got Soccer will have to build their way up. Which I'm sure they will.
Rankings have zero meaning. Just play the game in front of you and things will work out in the end.
Makes sense 7:32But when results using totally different players (see Surf) are counted the entire system is flawed, so what's one more skewed factor?
8:12IGFA will use their '01s from the U17 to play in U16 games. Thus keeping both ranks high as possible.I have never liked his style - or we might be there right now. Good team though.
8:30Unfortunately lower rank could mean lower bracketTop brackets get more college coach's eyes, generally.
9:25 I'm not familiar with this situation, so i can't comment. If the team had turnover players leaving an new ones coming in -there should be no issue. My issue is with teams that used 2000 girls in their rankings. 8:30 I agree mean nothing - but for some events it does (and it really does). The software will place teams then the event will manually adjust - how do you manually adjust when every team is a unknown? You just let the software place teams and see who complains right?10:25 I agree9:34 The club must not be very strong and don't get a big turnout - I'm guessing they do that for every age not just 2001s. If it's just the 2001 good for them then. More games played more chances to be seen.
If you are playing UP, 12:37 (2001 playing with 2000s), you should stay up. Micromanaging game/tournament rosters is not god for the morale of the players - when a player from the team above takes their playing time.Teams using ECNL players for NPL games, but in the same age group is one thing. Playing across age groups is a differnt animal.
At this age it's all about showcasing yourself not winning and losing.
League games lead to berths in championships, so scores do matter for being "seen".
4:54 Yes and No.Showcase yourself 100% - playing to win 100% - no coach want's to see a player hold the ball to long and miss an opportunity to score just so they can do a step over and then give the ball away that leads to a goal going the other wayleague games like GDA/ECNL/NPL/NL/ERL or NCS and US Club state cups all lead to a championship so they all matter to be seen I agreeShowcase events are to showcase players - Some teams carry large rosters and give playing time to players who normally don't play to showcase - while other teams showcase their strong players because that's the only time they can. The better team that day always wins - only people looking to make an excuse bring up it's not about the results because that's what they are all about. Everybody knows a showcase is about the players.Teams using ECNL players to take away playing time from NPL players is just as wrong as players playing down in their level to take away time from someone. If this is a free no problems but when people are paying over 2k, the players at the bottom of a roster should should pay less since they don't play as much. But just like the soccer pyramid we have it upside down.
I find it foolish to think that your daughter playing on a crappy team doesn't play a part in recruiting process. Coaches are going to be drawn towards good teams. Your daughter MUST contact and definitely request coaches!!
I agree 8:26 but how do we translate "good teams"ECNL? National League? NPL? ERL? Super Y? Youth Soccer rankings USA? Gotsoccer? TopDrawer? so many teams so many opinions. ODP vs id2 vs Super Y ODP vs nextgen vs showcase teams that travel to europe. So many options? How do these coaches define a good team?I agree contact the schools and the rest is out of their hands. With all the coaches on the sidelines how do the team coaches know who's there and who are they there to watch and for how long? Are they on the field or are they getting a rest? People try to make it so black and white but there are so mmany other colors
It's not the coach's responsibility to know who is there. Team manager as well as other parents who hand out the team's pamphlets need to take down names of coaches.If a player emailed a coach and the coach is there to see a player, if they went through the effort to be there, they wont leave until they see that player. Maybe not for the whole game and probably only a half but interested coaches will stay to watch.Team manager says at the end of the weekend who was there to see the team and all players whether they contacted the coach or not can write them back.
Showcasing versus winning. Not playing to win. Listen, we play top bracket and have for years. Now U16 of course, and an 02. We were at FC Delco top bracket at U11. So been around the block. OF COURSE YOU PLAY TO WIN, EVEN AT A SHOWCASE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The whole point is to win in college. Sure, be at top bracket and lost 3-0. If you are college coach what team and players do you want, the 3 or 0. Really think about it. It is always about winning at U12 and up lets say for any sport in travel.
10:56 I'm confused. This is a showcase event. Doesn't the coach control playing time?Players can write college coaches all they want the college coach still can't respond back to the players in this age group.
Thank you 8:30. You win for best post of the day. PDA teams are really the only teams with high rankings that could be considered legit. Even with the birth year change, the quality of their players at each age group will keep the teams playing at a high level.
Evening all.Just wanted to post our daughters experience in the College recruiting process so far - as much to show that you don't have to be on a top team to get the interest at college level.Our daughter is on the club's B team and has been emailing coaches from D1-D3 schools (she is a freshman at High School) and already has 5 colleges tracking her (1 D1, 1 D2 and 3 D3). At no stage, of the early, process has she been relying on the club or college coaches ot find her and has been treating the process almost like a job. Identifying and emailing coaches from colleges she is interested in.We have also put together a 2 minute montage of her play that she has emailed out and has attended 2 ID camps. The D1 school have told her followig the ID camp that they are very interested in her already and we have been invited for an unofficial visit in the New Year. they have been mightily impressed with her maturity, persistence and work ethic.I guess all I am really saying is that if your kid is diligent, hard working and with some talent good colleges are not just the remit of the ECNL/DA teams. But it does rely on the kids themselves being very proactive and initially casting the net far and wide.
12:30D3 can respond back
"If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?” - Vince Lombardi.
So a day before the tournament starts, PDA Shore Fusion moves out of the Elite Red Bracket down to the premier bracket (not that brackets mean anything at this point)? Just wondered why? Especially if no knows who's good and who's not.
Who did they swap with? You're giving half the story.
Some results for those that like results as these teams will now have youth soccer ranking scores.0 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE4 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL0 STA 2001G NPL 5 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL0 UNIONVILLE MILIKEN UMSC OPDL 010 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS PREMIER 01' BANSHEES2 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES0 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL 2001 0 KING UNITED SC KING CITY ROYALS3 PRINCETON SA IGFA 01 NPL3 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTHEAST NPL 20010 LEVITTOWN SUPERSONICS 1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP3 FC STARS ECNL 011 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 ECNL 1 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 20010 NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NS ELITE 1 FSA FC GIRLS ECNL 01
Sorry forgot the surf cup2 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL1 BROOMFIELD BLAST 01 GIRLS PRESTIGE (CO)
Also, any reason why Boca-Manalapan pulled out of the Top Division (Red) even if it was the B bracket, all the way to the 4th Division (Elite White) and the also the B bracket? Obviously they believe they probably can't compete at the top level, but why not give it a try - you never know. Instead they drop SIX levels???Not what I want for my kid. Pretty weak in my opinion.
1:26 again only half the story - who replaced them? and what other changes were made - you pointed out PDA Shore and now Boca? Who replaced them, you must know since you know they went down? 37.59 Region 1 #20 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ)The #20 team is 1.69 goals better than Boca and 3.59 goals better that PDA36.10 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JUNIOR FC ELITE MANALAPAN (NJ)34.07 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE FUSION (NJ)The tournaments use Gotsoccer and Youth Soccer rankings to name a few. Nothing wrong with those teams being moved down. Colleges want to see close games.
2:16 Those two post about teams pulling out of brackets are from two different posters (I'm the one from Nov 25). What does it matter who switched with them?With the birth year change, one is really sure of what team they may be facing anyway. Its not just that they switched out of the initial bracket (if they want to move down, that's fine), its just that all the other teams times were switched around on Friday. Is that fair to all the other teams in the bracket? First it took Newss forever to get the schedule out, then they change it on Friday to please two teams? Your sounding a little bit like a tournament official.
BOCA mommy and daddy manager and coach are worried about exits from their team. They looked ordinary at Hammonton last week. The age group change does not look like a good thing for that team. Mommy and daddy only worried about their kids anyway which is why they guest play with other teams and do things with a select few from the team "in secret." If you are not mommy or daddy's coach/manager kid are they really looking after your kid getting to college? Do these 2 know 100 college coaches? Will they be an advocate for your kid? NONONO
Wow lots of hate to the BOCA team ? I suspect this is the same parent who used to slam us before his kid was invited back to the team a few years ago. Big mistake then. The kid brought absolutely nothing to the game. Now that you once again were not invited back you are back to slamming us. Get a life. Your kid never was a good soccer player. Go join the swim team.
I'm just impressed that his kid is getting looked at by over 100 college coaches because their coach says they know that many. Psssst, hey buddy, I'be got these genuine Rolex watches for sale..........
Stallions may have played a weaker team by traveling the distance
What tournament are you referencing (the above scores)? Thanks!
2 COASTAL FC 01F (canadia) 1 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL 3 FC STARS ECNL 011 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY 2001 ECNL1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP0 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 20010 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 20013 FC STARS ECNL 018 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY 2001ECNL1 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 20014 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY 2001 ECNL2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP1 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 ECNL 0 NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NPL0 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 20011 NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NPL1 BRUNO UNITED FC GIRLS 2001 RED 1 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL 0 BRUNO UNITED FC GIRLS 2001 RED1 FSA FC GIRLS ECNL 011 FSA FC GIRLS ECNL 010 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL
Updated region 1 Youth Soccer ranking scores (top 20) going into this big weekend in NC (CASL and the National League Showcase)40.83 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION (MD)40.66 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) 39.62 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)39.21 FC STARS ECNL (MA)39.14 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)39.14 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 38.88 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME38.86 FC STARS NPL (MA) 38.75 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS 38.71 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) 38.67 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)38.66 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)38.53 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) 38.41 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) 38.32 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)38.16 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) 38.10 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) 38.06 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)38.05 PRINCETON SA IGFA NPL (NJ)38.01 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM NPL (NJ)
6:02 - - Nope, sorry - i don't know what or who you are talking about.Just noticed the big sidestep of a competitive group to a easy group.Seemed pretty pathetic.My kid played in the top bracket and yours didn't.
Boca/Manalapan/NJCSA. Did they win? I see in finals. And like I have always said. "What bracket are you in?" That makes a huge difference for sure at showcase events. Why would a coach bother with lower bracket teams. They are busy enough looking at 16-18 players in top brackets.
I am sure they would not have scored a goal, and they would have surrendered plenty in the top division.I am embarrassed for them, and if my kid was unfortunate enough to play there... I would be pissed off.
BOCA cosche and manager have their kids guest play at good tournaments so their kids will get looked at by colleges. Not worried about the rest of the team at all. If they are then what have hey done to try to help the rest of the roster. Have the team dropped to the fourth bracket?
Wow! A lotta BOCA bitterness here. Lol. Y'all sound like a bunch of liberals. Whaaaaa trump won, whaaaaaaa Boca's jerks whaaaaaa! Get over it. BOCA won. Had some guest players, all from within club, all playing up. What Do you care what others do? Worry about your own situation( which is probably not so good if your on here whining about others). Nice showing last weekend BOCA girls! Well done and well deserved finish. Fine play didn't go unnoticed I'm sure as there were quite a few coaches at games Sunday.
There were four coaches watching, two from each of the teams playing (team managers included).
Was Boca 2001 short players - or did the '02s take playing time from some of the '01s?Not real good policy.
What is the story with the flighting at CASL? Are there just the four flights (ECNL,Elite,Premiere,United)? Or Do the colors within those four categories have meaning to the flighting?
The colors usually don't mean anything.
So elite silver and elite red are comparable?
3rd is 3rd and 4th is 4thPretty simple.
3 ECNL flights then 13 other flights at CASL. So I guess that is 6x3 for ecnl = 18, plus 13 x 8 = 104, 122 teams for U16? I do know a couple teams that were not accepted. 122 teams, wow, right? times 16 players. A lot of ecnl. This is where the college coaches are. 18 ecnl teams with Freshman and Sophomores. Think about that if you were a coach. Then you go to 2000 and two ecnl brackets. Not as expensive as Disney, and for us tri-staters driveable lets say. I am sure NY had college coaches. But where PDA Storm is, I want my daughter to be this weekend at the least.
We're home - and half the teams aren't as good as us.Oh well, it happensThe no NCAA games thing would have really bothered me. Initially it looked like a fabulous weekend.
CASL has always been strange about the teams it accepts. They seem to accept teams at 3 different levels -- Elite/ECNL, Premier, United (this is the first year they've sequestered the ECNL teams to their own flights) -- so there are certainly some very good teams that applied that are sitting at home because there wasn't enough room in the Premier flights and those teams were too good for the United flights, or not enough room in Premier flights and those teams weren't quite good enough to make the cut for Elite. Give them credit for trying to keep the games competitive and giving all levels of teams the opportunity to play at their showcase.And, yes, the colors mean nothing.
CASL is a nice tournament, the coaches are much more likely to scout the ECNL Composite event in Greenboro Dec 2-4 than the CASL event. Of course if they're looking at a particular NPL player they'll go to CASL to look.
National League games are going on in NC this weekend and there are tons of colleges coaches at those games too.
Can someone explain what an ECNL "Composite" event is?
It's a combination of ECNL and NPL players that make up the roster.
7:20, ECNL Composite refers to "composite" ECNL rosters made up of two different age groups, not a combination of ECNL and NPL players. One age bracket was comprised of 2001 and 2002 ECNL players, the other of 2000 and 98/99 players.
No Disrespect to your composite argument - but using PDA as an example Splash/Storm and Madrid at CASL what 01 - what is this composite team made up of if PDA sent a team? Glorified scrimmages unless the results are listed for the public. I know and the NPL florida event is a top tournament.No politics below just results enjoy.To Recap this weekend's results.Just records lots of region 1 teams in action.Lots Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores to changeRankings to start taking shapeAnd yes for those keeping score D1 coaches show up to the Premierand United flights. 2016-17 National LeagueW-T-L (GD)2-2-0 (+2) Greater Binghamton FC (NY-W)1-3-0 (+2) BRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA)1-2-1 (+1) Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)1-1-2 (-3) 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)1-0-3 (-13) Beadling 2001 Elite (PA-W)0-2-2 (-2) FC Frederick 01 (MD)CASL - ECNL2-1-0 (+5) FC Stars ECNL 20012-1-0 (+4) McLean 01 Girls Ecnl2-1-0 (+3) World Class FC Ecnl 012-0-1 (+2) Albertson Fury 01 ECNL1-2-0 (+2) FC Virginia ECNL 20011-1-1 (+1) MARYLAND UNITED FC 01ECNL1-1-1 (+1) STA Morris United NPL 011-1-1 (+0) Bethesda Union ECNL 011-1-1 (-1) FC Bucks Ecnl 011-0-2 ((+2) East Meadow Soccer Club Ecnl 011-0-2 (-4) Penn Fusion SA '01g Ecnl0-1-2 (-2) PDA Splash0-1-2 (-3) Continental FC 01 ECNLCASL - Elite (D1)3-0-0 (+6) SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY2-1-0 (+4) South Shore Select U16 AP (2001)2-1-0 (+4) NEFC - Breakers 2001 NS Elite2-1-0 (+2) SUSA ISA G01 NPL2-0-1 (+2) Arlington 01 Red2-0-1 (-1) LOUDOUN SOCCER CLUB 01 Red1-2-0 (+1) NY Surf G01 LI1-2-0 (+1) FC Copa Academy G01 Black1-1-1 (-1) Massapequa NPL 01 Cosmos1-1-1 (-2) NJ Stallions Academy Freedom0-2-1 (-2) Manhattan SC G01 Pride NPL0-2-1 (-3) GPS-MA NPL0-1-2 (-2) PIPELINE SOCCER CLUB Black 01G0-1-2 (-4) DAVIDSONVILLE Dynamite0-1-2 (-5) U16 NYSCE 2001 Sapphire0-0-3 (-4) HFC United ThunderPremier (D2)3-0-0 (+8) SUSA ELITE G013-0-0 (+7) PDA Madrid (NJ)3-0-0 (+6) LVU 2001 Girls Black2-0-1 (+4) Riverhounds Development Academy2-0-1 (+4) Syracuse Development Academy (NY-W)2-0-1 (+2) Delaware Rush 012-0-1 (+2) FC Stars NPL 20012-0-1 (+1) Princeton sa igfa012-0-1 (-1) Yankee United F.C. Flash NPL-011-1-1 (+2) VAR Rush 01G1-2-0 (+2) Bethesda Storm 010-1-2 (-3) FC Richmond Mystx '010-0-3 (-5) PWSI Courage 01G NPL
Sorry added STA to ECNL breakdown instead of Elite
There are only ECNL players on the Composite Rosters - no NPL players.Kids can play up, that's it.
I guess isn't the same team it use to be?
What Composite event are you talking about? All the top ECNL clubs had their 01 and 02 teams playing at CASL getting ready for the start of their ECNL season on the 10th. So all the main players were playing together unless you want me to believe that the ECNL season means nothing to them and they just mixed players up for development and could careless about the games that really matter to them.Youth Soccer Rankings USA top 25(1) 40.62 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) (2) 40.33 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)(3) 39.74 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)(4) 39.59 BETHESDA SC MD UNION ECNL (MD)(5) 39.32 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)(6) 38.75 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) (7) 38.67 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA) (8) 38.47 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)(9) 38.41 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)(10) 38.40 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE) (11) 38.38 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)(12) 38.37 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NY)(13) 38.29 FC BUCKS ECNL (PA) (14) 38.23 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) (15) 38.18 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA) (16) 38.15 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)(17) 38.09 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)(18) 38.07 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW)(19) 38.06 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL (RI)(20) 38.04 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)
Let's put Youth Soccer Rankings USA to the test.using this weekend's start of the ECNL Season35.13 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U1640.62 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U16(Stars -5)37.05 Continental FC ECNL U1637.96 PDA ECNL U16(PDA -1)38.40 Albertson Fury ECNL U1638.03 East Meadow SC ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.37 diff)37.46 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U1638.29 FC Bucks ECNL U16(Bucks -1)38.15 Match Fit Academy ECNL U1638.37 World Class FC ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.22 diff)37.73 FSA FC ECNL U16WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U16(N/A - WNY has no score)38.04 Connecticut FC ECNL U1639.74 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16(BBA -2)38.04 Connecticut FC ECNL U16WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U16(N/A - WNY has no score)37.05 Continental FC ECNL U1638.37 World Class FC ECNL U16(WC - 1)38.15 Match Fit Academy ECNL U1637.96 PDA ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.19 diff)37.73 FSA FC ECNL U1639.74 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16(BBA -2.)
Thanks for the link Region 1 had 2 teamsFC Virginia was at both CASL and this event - they also have a roster of 26 so they dress 16 for CASL the remaining 8 combine with some 02s play at this event I can see that MF has a roster of 22 I can see them using 8 of their players combined with some 02s.Just scrimmages - recruiting done for the older ages. Some coaches probably hit all 3
What happened to the Splash. I guess the age realignment didn't do well for them.
You know that it's a showcase event. It counts for nothing other than playing time, girls getting to know each other (that have not been in season yet) and coaches showcasing ALL the kids for the college coaches. If teams don't show well in league play, then I would ask what happened. Until then, I would just wait and see how all of this plays out before jumping to conclusions.
12:02 love that response. The girls play to win and the team uses the girls on the roster. Why does it matter that it's a showcase event? We all know it's a showcase event - all teams showcase their players and some teams even use them as warm ups for their league. These are not all star games where no one plays defense these games are played at the highest level because of the audience - but it still doesn't change the fact that the games are played to be won.If Splash played MF would it matter that it was a showcase? or would the girls give it a little more? This is the reason why ECNL teams want to play only ECNL teams right? Non-ECNL players would be jacked up to play vs an ECNL team and since the ECNL team wants to play all their players they would be a little exposed. It would be the perfect environment for the bottom of the roster players to get some real game action instead of playing teams that use their bottom of the roster players,but i guess it makes them look better and deeper or at least we excuses for when it doesn't go as planned.
Does anyone think that the ECNL clubs that will be moving to the DA next year will show badly next yr? The DOC's and coaches will be looking toward getting everything in order for the DA to be run smoothly. The girls will be thinking , I am going to move to the DA or stay ECNL? All these clubs had changes this yr with the BYC and will have changes next yr due to the DA's.
12:54 - I am not a PDA parent, but was commenting on my experience with showcase tourneys (with my older kids). Do you play to win? Of course. However, because it is a showcase tourney, it is not critical in league standings so coaches (and college coaches in particular) don't care about the score. They want to see how kids react even when placed in situations with girls they don't normally play around. So, in league play, those kids that may have gotten 20 mins per half to play or even the full half, but are not in the top of the roster, may not even see the field (depending on the game and the opponent). It's just the way it is. Not an excuse, just an explanation. So, as I explained previously, see how it plays out during the league season before jumping to conclusions.
Here's my 2 cents...older daughter's experience at showcases.she plays with 2 teams, one her age group(many new players, no chemistry) and one secondary, older age group with 75% return players.2 coaches watching her:"we are looking at her play, no matter the team. How does she respond to different teammates around her? She should continue to play her game and place the ball where it should go, even if her teammates aren't necessarily where they should be"They've observed her on both teams with different outcomes and they have not changed their interest.
Exactly. Score doesn't matter. Can't get parents to understand that re showcase tourneys (ECNL and non-ECNL). If you are collecting GSP, maybe you/coach care. Otherwise, it has zero significance in the recruitment process.
Tight balancing act for U15 and U16 thoughThe GS points do help place team in better brackets following tournaments etc...better brackets, better coach visibility
Get that. I guess teams need to earn them in state cups; non-showcase things, if that is possible. There has to be a better way for teams that rely on GSP for tournament placement to continue to be placed appropriately. I know there are some teams that participate in 10+ tournaments (and league play) through out the season to continue to get GS points and some that only participate in 5/6. And, they finish as semi finalists or above to continue to earn GS points to allow them to get into good tourney. And some just want to get their teams in everything to use this as some sort of ranking system when reaching out to college coaches. To find other options re this so that the kids are allowed to be showcased (and not worry about outcome) and the clubs still have opportunity of getting into various tournaments which rely on GSP would be ideal.
8:03 future tournaments look at the results for placement showcase or not. So results are important for the team to be placed in the flight for as you said for the coaches to see how the players react in a competitive environment.What in the world does a coach see when a player that normally plays 20 minutes plays against another player that normally sees only 20 minutes?To me the kids play and the coaches watch - the better team that day wins simple no excuses.8:43 two teams play and one wins for this board it matters since we can't talk about the kids and everybody knows a showcase is about the players.12:28 I agree to a degree but saw first hand your placement means nothing my kid had 12 D1 schools and another 18 D2 and D3 schools watching them play this fall. It's not taboo to be on a good team that wins games and also plays a bunch of games since when has this become a bad thing? So her team gets GS points and 30 schools watching them why should a parent feel bad about that? Because they got 10k in GSP?3:32. I like youth soccer rankings a lot more, I posted the ECNL spreads before lets see how it does with just showcase games played. How about getting their kids seen as much as possible? The only people calling them chasers are the ones wishing their kids played as many games. PS in order to get those points you have to be good and win more times than not.
Here you go Youth Soccer Ranking scores every game matters since Aug 2016 After BYC. No bias I even split the ECNL teams and Non-ECNL teamsRegion 1 ECNL Top 1541.02 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)40.46 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) 40.26 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)39.02 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD)38.79 BETHESDA SC MD UNION ECNL (MD) 38.47 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)38.39 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) 38.36 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)38.30 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)38.24 FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE) 38.06 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE) 37.91 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SPLASH (NJ)37.89 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)37.77 FSA FC ECNL (CT) 37.71 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE)Region 1 Non-ECNL Top 1539.22 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 38.24 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)38.23 SUSA FC ACADEMY ISA NPL (NYE)38.21 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) 38.11 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL (RI) 38.09 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)38.06 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)38.04 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW)37.99 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA) 37.89 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)37.87 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 37.82 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED FC BLACK (PAE)37.75 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ)37.68 BEACH FC RED (VA)37.65 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL (CT)
These are all 01/U16 teams, right?
12/6 @7:34 - some ARE GSP chasers. There are some clubs that convenience their parents that they have to do this tourney to get points (sometimes it's not a challenging tourney) and this one and this one. My kid had been on one of those. If you have 12 DI coaches looking at your kid, ask them. They don't care about the points. The points are just to get into tourneys. It's a money grab. And, my kid, committed (top DI school; as a soph), plays ECNL so points don't matter. Speaking from my experience (and not saying it works for everyone). We left a very good premier team that, in my opinion as I paid the bill, chased GSP. Showcase tourneys need to showcase kids not become a point chase.
11:30 and this my friend is the disconnect. First congrats to your kid. How about the kids on that very good premier team? How do they commit? Just go to ID camps? How about all the kids on premier teams go to ECNL teams, wait the numbers can't support that. Should they play on a premier team that doesn't play as much less opportunity to be seen and of course they don't have GS points? or should they play on a premier team that plays at WAGS, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jefferson, Delco and maybe an EDP event or 2 that would be 8 opportunities for the players to be seen by their school's of choice. Now if this premier team was good they would place and win lots of GS points that's just the nature of the beast so tell me again how playing these 6 events are a bad thing plus the 2 lower level events to get some D2/D3 schools in the mix? How is this a bad thing? Don't forget they can't go to the ECNL events. Open your eyes what worked for your kid doesn't work for every kid and every kid is important even on those teams you call chasers.So play Bethesda, CASL, Disne, Jefferson & Delco and you are a point chaser if the team does well and wins, wow.
PS. If I ask these D1 coaches about money grabs do you think they will say their id clinics and camps are also? Multiple clinics fora few spots at over $100 per kid and playing tons of games is now also a money grab.Let me see my kid plays 30 games and trains twice a week for less money and is on a roster of less than 18vsmy kid playing 15 games and trains twice a week and is part of a roster in excess of 18 and doesn't get the minutes your kid did - which is the money grab?
Post a Comment