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Thursday, October 2, 2014

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Anonymous said...

7:03 your comment shows how ignorant you are about the tournament. Stallions parents any comment about the EMBARASSING weekend? Your coach usually comes out with strong stats and history, where is now? For sure he can add to his curriculum also a 6-0 in a top flight tournament. I am sure it is a record too. Or maybe something behind the result? Heard some parent leaving the field saying at least no other Nj team makes the final... Nice

Anonymous said...

IGFA stop your whining. Bottom line if you truly deserved to make it to the final you should have beat WC. Instead you put your fate in the hands of another team...and when the results didn't go your way you cut up a bunch of 13yr old girls. Truly classless and not hard to understand why your club is bashed often on this blog.

Anonymous said...

Funny how karma works. Igfa benefited from odd tourney rules vs freehold earlier this season and they were at the field telling our coach to stop complaining to the tournament. Now they want it both ways.

Anonymous said...

IGFA

IGnorant
Football
Academy

Anonymous said...

Misunderstanding is different from breaking the rules!

Anonymous said...

No parent complaining about tourny rules. The issue is that many parents are upset. We know the rules. And it sucks. The are other underlying variables that lead to those outcomes . Those variables are not placing blame on refs, tournment rules or brackets. Factors that lead to winning and not making the finals comes from lack of experience. When inexperienced at playing high level,coaching high level and parenting at high level, emotions can get the best of all invovlved. In time with experince at these high level tournaments the group, if they stay together, will bemefit most whem it counts. Experience is a critical component and often overlooked. However as a unit we will continue to fail forward, progress and learn from all of our mistakes. The team will loose players and gain some new girls. With every loss their is a gain. What one decide to make of it depends on the will to win.
Yet they will continue to develop and improve. So while many of us chace or become tempted to chase ECNL club he remember who really cashes in on your MIA mind set. Most of our girls will grow and earn their respect on the playing field while other rely on dady's pay to play status to say hay look at me I'm ECNL and still not the next MIA.

Anonymous said...

7:58 please give us details because that is far from any truth. Nobody is whining girls did a good job and we are all happy. We just go back to work like we would have done if we were at the final. Congratulations to WC a solid good team. It was a good game the one we play last night. Now I am waiting for your freehold case 7:58

Anonymous said...

GFA played freehold once in a tournament and never were involved in any other competition together. They played them few weeks ago and won 3-1 we won the group without any rules to be checked so I do not know why you are referring me freehold parent 7:58.

Anonymous said...

Jus how many points are you trying to make in that opus Mr. Tolstoy?

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Anonymous said...

Even if you only count 5 of 6 goals from the the stallion game (both tie with 6 overall diff. wc=1+5 & gfa=3+3); gfa you lose on the next tie breaker, goal for (7 to 6).

Showcases should not have gs points anyway, its for player to be seen and coaches to allow as much time for each player as possible.

Anonymous said...

8:38 you are a troll like many others in here. Not a GFA parent. Please stop. Brick is top team and proved over the years. Also mr troll do not mention names because they are young girls and you should stop right now with trying to provoke some reaction or additional bashing.

Anonymous said...

No parents bickering about rules. NJ has some solid teams to compete in the region. Spring and Jeff Cup willxbe here soon. Let's see who will play in the top bracket. I know who will not? And let's go back to our early season projections to see which teams progressed, regressed or stayed floundering I'm stagnant nation. Lets see which team player better over their last 20 games and look at the quality of those games too.

Anonymous said...

8:38 Yes you have some very good points..however 8:45 is right. Dont do names and also dont be mean about it...maybe Brick didnt have their day. However, yes GFA is a good team and deserve it. And some things today were weird. But what you gonna do about it

Anonymous said...

Hint: If 1 def stops your team your not playing with numbers/ passing enough in the last 3rd of the field. 1 def beats k&r tactics as the def beats the off player to the ball.

Anonymous said...

WC is better then NJ teams. They beat Brick @ Stars if MASS, beat your State Champs badly & beat your top Club PDA by 3 goals this season in ECNL play so don't get hung up on a tie when you didn't play the full team & act like you are just as good. Shows the inexperience if you think a tie tells the story of who is better or that a tie means you are just as good. Play WC 10x and if you win 1 game if be shocked! GFA beat the NJ State Champs which are not good & New Hyde Park so I guess for that team that means something? Let's see how long you last in the top flights in the next couple of seasons. NJ teams spend too much time chasing points and bashing each other to see the big picture, not all NJ teams but most.

Anonymous said...

Nobody here is banging there cheat saying that GFA is better than WC. They played and tied. It was a great game that could of went either way. GFA enters tournaments hoping to get in the top flights so they can test themselves. They are a newer team and have to prove themselves just as all of these other teams had to do at one point. To say theyvayrt chasing points is a joke. You tell me.. How else are they supposed to play in high level tournaments, in the top brackets if they don't accumulate points? IS GFA the best team out there? No, but they are a dam good team and nobody can say differently. They will keep working and playing and no matter what they do or who they beat there will always be GFA haters. Oh well!

Anonymous said...

Oh well.... at least the conversation has stepped up to, "is GFA in World Class's class?"

Anonymous said...

Best teams in Nj:
Barons
Brick
MF
Pda
Stallions
Freehold
Copa

Anonymous said...

You need to stop.

Anonymous said...

Top NJ teams based on reputation, results & history are:
SJEB
Brick
PDA
Based in results from this season you would put GFA as the next team with MF.
Stallions won the States but lost to Brick & GFA as did Copa so they are outside the top 5 for now & you cannot put Freehold anywhere near the top 5.
NJ top 10:
SJEB
Brick
PDA
GFA
MF
Stallions
Real
Copa
NJ Crush
NJ Rush or Freehold

Anonymous said...

Wow a top 10 NJ list. Again. What's the point of this list. How about the top ten coaches talk to each other and make an NJ allstar showcase team for U15 out of their top girls. O wait thats ODP . Or is that TIPS. No it must be the ECNL teams.
Clearly its none of these as good players are scatter across teams forcing the coaches to fill out thier rosters with who they can get.

The list should be for the top 10 trainers.

Anonymous said...

If you go with that premise then NJ teams without the best players playing together still can compete with other States that I guess you're saying gets all the best kids to one team then NJ coaching & training must be very good to take these players that are not very good to compete with the best from other States. NJ does have it's talent spread out as they haven't bought into the ECNL nonsense & when these teams cannot beat these teams why would they leave their current teams just to pay more money & be on a roster of 24-30?

Anonymous said...

I don't knw, i feel lost on this Blog. i am more concerned with my daughter and how she is doing in any game than whether or not our team lost to a team by a goal. Nice to have a win but if my daughters not a significant contributor then it is all for nothing.


makes all this best team stuff just silly.-because it ends in a whisper at the end of u18 .

My only concern is if my daughter wants to play college soccer, is she being given the chance to develop so that she will be good enough to play.

Let the coach worry about the team and their rankings.

Why are you parents worried so much about the team?- when some of your kids may be coming off the bench.

Anonymous said...

Shouldnt this be a quiet site by now. No one is even playing.

Anonymous said...

The troll posting top ten is a jerk. But dialogue about development is key. Some girls develop with peaks and plateaus. Some girls grown incrementally and others no matter how much effort will not be able to match the level of play that is needed to play in top brackets. When the competition is tough individual weakness are noticeable then its back to training to tweak and strengthen the errors of the game. If the adjustment can't be made within a certain time frame then its time to reevaluate the player and adjust the training or the pick a platform that is right for the player. Rec travel..etc...if the player has not made it to the top brackets by now its over and there is a slim chance that the player will make it to compete at the highest level in a showcase.

Anonymous said...

How is an under 500 season good? Brick and sjeb can beat most teams in NJ ...PDA does not even compete so how is putting a team in top three based on reputation even a factor? Yankees have a great reputation bit are they the best team because flof their history? Your variable need to include W-D-L goals for and against then you factor in other constructs like schedule etc...

Anonymous said...

WC didnt even have their best player??? They didnt give up much and they scored a ton, what position does she play?

Anonymous said...

My daughter played for a team that played both World Class and GFA this weekend at NEWSS and since I have no dog in the fight I can give you my take on both teams. World Class is a very solid team that is good 1 through 18. No noticeable drop off but nothing that makes you say WOW either. The GFA starting 11 was leaps and bounds better than the World Class starting 11. GFA also has some quality on the bench as well...but 15 through 18 is where they lack. Both teams have great keepers. GFA keeper (top notch) was the better of the two..but WC keeper was great too. Both teams are very good and were the class of the tournament. Both teams have a bright future.

Anonymous said...

WC has a player that is on the National team & GFA does not have a player close to that level. GFA is a nice team but let's not compare them to a proven Club after 1 game where WC was not at full strength. If GFA was on the other side of bracket I don't think they would have won 2 games. Stallions & New Hyde Park are not top flight teams.

Anonymous said...

you are all full of sh&T.

South Jersey needs their own blog.

Anonymous said...

World Class - stop

It belittles you to see the excuse of a weekend roster problem.

For the most part on this blog you dont see the "so and so was hurt......so and so was at volleyball...." type statements.

Thats one thing I have always appreciated here. Lets keep it that way

Anonymous said...

Hey 3:35 PM - One girl does not make a team. If she does mean that much...that does not say much about the other girls on the World Class team. Which I think is a bit unfair...but would prove my point...no?? GFA starting 11 is better than World Class in my opinion. The HBC team has a national team player that guested for New Hyde Park this weekend. How did that work out?? Point proven again!!!

Anonymous said...

4:28

opinions are like ass holes- everyone has one and most of them smell!

This blog is polluted by GFA.

I would never take my daughter to this team and I am sure most feel the same.Parents always feel they have something to prove.

Anonymous said...

Heard GFA is going to Nationals for a team called the Valkyries for the Super Y League on Thursday in Florida. Now that is interesting!

Anonymous said...

4:39...LOL!! That is all you can come up with??? My kid played against GFA you clown...not for GFA!! You truly do represent what is wrong with this blog and youth soccer. Put the mouse down and go outside and play. You probably need the exercise.

Anonymous said...

As usual the blog is wrong again...according to the WC website the national player is on the U15, not the current U14.

Anonymous said...

I remember Super Y when it was relevant about 5 yrs ago. Why bother paying all that money to go to Florida to play against clubs that are at the level of your typical mosa team?

Anonymous said...

Hey slick simply because your not going to Florida does not mean its not worth while. Why worry about what GFA is doing and worry about how MF will never be as good ...or better yet why don't you stop knocking the entities you abandoned its all about exposure. So why nj ecnl parents keep inhaling that koolaid non ecnl nj teams keep creating opportunities. See you in the spring. If MF lets you play.

Anonymous said...

So either your daughter played for the Stallions who got destroyed or New Hyde Park who needed to bring in a ringer to keep the game close so hard to take our opinion seriously. GFA was the 2nd best team in a weak bracket.

Anonymous said...

You must be really clueless if you think the WC, GFA, New Hyde Park...was a weaker bracket. Anyone who saw the level of soccer played in these two brackets would instantly recognize which one was it. I think you just did not see it because you were already driving home nicely packed.

Anonymous said...

The weaker teams were figuring out how to poach players and buy into ecnl all weekend along. It won't happen. If nj players decide to go ecnl they should head to WC, BUCKS OR FUSION other than that why play with along MOsa standout in matchfit or splash

Anonymous said...

4:39 maybe your asshole smells but again seems you are an expert so you say most of them smells I am sure you know better. Keep your bitterness and your smelly asshole to yourself. There are lots of trolls here. One week is COPA then freehold then brick now GFA. Maybe you are upset because the troll is not talking about your team so why you take your nose off some ass and start one .

Anonymous said...

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Any id is good but which do you believe is more valuable to college coaches : 1) odp national camp attendee or 2) being on an ecnl team roster?

Anonymous said...

3:07 Nice critiquing from a GFA parent pretending to be an impartial parent from an opposing team. First 11 for GFA are great but 15 through 18 suck. Way to throw half your team under the bus. "GFA goalie top notch",... would that happen to be your daughter?

LOL

Anonymous said...

CHICAGO (May 27, 2014) – U.S. Under-14 Girls’ National Team head coach April Kater has called up 48 players for the first U.S. U-14 Girls’ National Team training camp of the year. It will be the first National Team experience for this group of players, all of whom were born in 2000 or 2001. The event will run from June 1-8 in Portland, Oregon. The U-14 GNT is scheduled for two more training camps this August and November, which should both feature 36 players.

U.S. U-14 Girls’ National Team Roster By Position:
GOALKEEPERS (5): Katherine Asman (Concorde Fire; Roswell, Ga.), Danielle Hansen (Colorado Storm; Broomfield, Colo.), Madison Murphy (FC Stars of Mass.; South Grafton, Ma.), Holland Stam (Aztec Soccer; Ipswich, Ma.), Cayla White (McLean; Arlington, Va.)

DEFENDERS (15): Kendall Bates (Dallas Texans; Melissa, Texas), Cameron Brooks (Lonestar SC; Round Rock, Texas), Isabella Cook (Chicago Magic PSG; Elmhurst, Ill.), Chai Cortez (Surf Hawaii; Wailuku, Hawaii), Madelyn Desiano (So Cal Blues; San Clemente, Calif.), Erin Hohnstein (Colorado Rush; Broomfield, Colo.), Anna Michelle Lawler (St. Louis Scott Gallagher Missouri; St. Louis, Mo.), Catiana Lychywek (Solar Chelsea Elite; Plano, Texas), Jenna Nighswonger (Slammers FC; Huntington Beach, Calif.), Ava Nkadi (San Juan Spirits; El Dorado Hills, Calif.), Hallie Pearson (Carmel United; Carmel, Ind.), Sarah Piper (Texas Rush; The Woodlands, Texas), Laveni Vaka (Bombers Elite; St. George, Utah), Mia Villegas (Davis Legacy; Sacramento, Calif.), Jillian Wachira (PDA; Plainsboro, N.J.)

MIDFIELDERS (16): Bianca Caetano-Ferrara (San Diego Surf; San Diego, Calif.), Cori Dyke (Colorado Rush; Littleton, Colo.), Sierra Enge (Carlsbad United; Cardiff, Calif.), Mia Fishel (San Diego Surf; San Diego, Calif.), Tatum Ireland (Team Boca; Boca Raton, Fla.), Madison Mercado (San Diego Surf; San Diego, Calif.), Samantha Neyman (FC Stars of Mass.; North Andover, Ma.), Nicole Payne (Concorde Fire; Birmingham, Ala.), Brianna Pinto (CASL; Durham, N.C.), Mackenzie Pluck (FC Bucks; North Wales, Pa.), Hailey Rydberg (Campton United; South Elgin, Ill.), Sophia Smith (Real Colorado; Fort Collins, Colo.), Natalia Staude (Tophat SC; Marietta, Ga.), Celiana Torres (Sockers FC; Chicago, Ill.), Maddy Vergura (FC Stars of Mass.; Concord, Ma.), Summer Yates (Pac NW; Pasco, Wash.);

FORWARDS (12): Croix Bethune (Concorde Fire; Alpharetta, Ga.), Caroline Conti (Carolina Elite; Greenville, S.C.), Kyla Ferry (Scottsdale Blackhawks; Phoenix, Ariz.), Abby Greubel (Slammers FC; Santa Ana, Calif.), Venicia Juarez (Crossfire Premier; Lake Stevens, Wash.), Nikki Lee (De Anza Force; Hillsborough, Calif.), Ariana Munoz (JFC Storm; Jacksonville, Fla.), Allison Schlegel (Colorado Storm; Parker, Colo.), Skylar Smith (So Cal Blues; Coto De Caza, Calif.), Alexa Spaanstra (Michigan Hawks; Brighton, Mich.), Jordan Taylor (Ohio Premier Eagles; Wadsorth, Ohio), Mallaika Tomar (Crossfire Premier; Sammamish, Wash.)

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I'm not a GFA parent...I'm not even from NJ you idiot. We played you earlier this year and I noticed the goalie was new and you had a couple of other girls you did not have last time we played you this fall. Guest players maybe? Just my opinion that your bench is your weakness. Since you know I'm not your goalies parent...you would not happen to be a parent of player 15 thru 18? Would you?? LOL!!

Anonymous said...

Yeah sure, and you're not a insecure parent trying to live vicariously through your little princess. You make a lot of funny assumptions. I'm not part of any team or have a kid that's part of any team. I just like to be entertained by the comments made by parents with the inferiority complex like you. you want to do something constructive? Then put down the cupcakes and jump on a treadmill and stop trying to project own dreams on your kid.

Anonymous said...

all this time, I finally had to google what MOSA soccer was. You South jersey people need a life...your own, not living through your daughters. I have a Senior in HS and stuff she did at U14 fell off her soccer resume long ago. develop now, showcase later.

Anonymous said...

I cannot eat remember seeing a top flight team get beat 3-0 & 6-0 in a tournament before which shows you they shouldn't have been there. New Hyde has also lost big in top flights before which shows you being a State Champion doesn't mean you are a top team. One side if the bracket was competitive & the other side of NEWSS was not with 2 games 3-0 & 1 game 6-0. Be interesting to see where these teams go from here. Winning a State Championship & getting all those points to get moved up to top flights will be there undoing like other teams before them that didn't belong. GFA played a right game with WC score wise but wonder how they would have done on the other side of the bracket? Time will tell about that team too. Enjoy the offseason & we'll see how things finish up in the Spring.

Anonymous said...

PARENTS..what we could do if they would just stay home.. and off this blog!

Anonymous said...

I think most of you people are insane. There are very few people on this blog that actually make any sense. I will go on this once in a blue moon to get a good laugh and never post anything, until now. I am a GFA parent. I think we are a very good team and are getting better every day. We work extremely hard and do the best we can every time we step onto the field. Sometimes it's great and sometimes it's not. Such is life.. That's why we continue to work. We are not the best team out there but for some of you to say that we're not good is pretty pathetic. WC is a great team and our game against them was great. Both teams played well. You can all tbink what you want about us, our future, who we beat who we lost to, where we will be in the next year or so etc. None of that matters to us and it shouldn't matter to you. We will continue to work hard and get better. The proof is in the results! Redults don't lie..

Anonymous said...

I always look for redults.

Anonymous said...

For the ECNL Haters and Doubters:

ECNL ALUMS DOMINATE AWARDS IN THE POWER 5 CONFERENCES
ECNL Alums Claim 118 Conference Honors Across the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12, and Big 12

http://eliteclubsnationalleague.com/home/850008.html

Anonymous said...

Kind of expected the NHP outcome but was kind of shocked to see the stallions results. We played them in the top bracket of wags which is arguably stronger then their newws bracket and although they didn't come out on top they gave us and the eventual champs a run for our money. Looking at their history on gotsoccer they don't normally give up many goals with the exception of the 2 WC games...they seem to have their number. Maybe some extenuating circumstances contributed to their poor weekend. Many injuries? Any stallions parent care to shed some light?

Anonymous said...

So we can understand the award picture, how many awards went to non ecnl players in the same conferences?

Anonymous said...

Brick and copa went away,now we have some new tools wc and gfa

Anonymous said...

Okay ECNL dominated awards in college but does that mean that your MiA will follow to be the next dominant player to earn the award? Possibly yes...probably no. The key is to find a way to get into a college that has a major of interest. What will these awards bring...a cure for cancer, a Nobel peace prize, world renowned recognition? Propaganda is sketchy? If the schools mentioned recruit from an ecnl base then it is likely that ecnl players will earn the award? Is that the case for all conferences? Probably different from region to region. So check your sources, and authors purpose then infer.

Anonymous said...

Stallions won a state cup that was the weakest of all times . Either than that they didn't do anything this season. The best move was to get the Americans points from previous year so they could play top flights .

Anonymous said...

Why it was weak? Brick was there. Their coach thinks they are the best in NJ.

SJEB was there as well.

I think it was just easy according to you so you can use your arguments and make fun of other teams...

Anonymous said...

Ok so tell me which teams stallions played to make it to the final and win. Let's see

Anonymous said...

Stallions had to beat the ones that beat the "best". If you think you are the best, you should have won against weaker teams, according to you. But did you?

Anonymous said...

Ok so TSF and Nj rush are the best out there. Ok all good so stallions this past weekend played 3 games got 10 goal against and score only one goal. Got an incredibly EMBARASSING 6-0 and got killed by two out of three teams BUT is a top notch team ok?

Anonymous said...

And please do tell which round of the state cup your daughter's team lost in? For such a self proclaimed weak tournament would you not also label that as EMBARESSING?

Anonymous said...

English please

Anonymous said...

As opposed to?

Anonymous said...

Realize that this info about total awards domination comes directly from the ECNL web site. Would like to see the info about how many awards were presented in total and what percentages went to ECNL vs. other leagues. WOuld like to understand how the sward winner are chosen.

Anonymous said...

And what about the high level of representation on the various age group national teams?

They making that up too?

Just Soccer said...

ECNL is an idea. A format in which the most recognizable and historically successful academies (not individual teams) could showcase there players. There attraction isn't better coaching or better techniques, but the idea that your daughters could play in the "major leagues" of girls organized soccer. Because of this, parents send their daughters in flocks to try out for these teams. in turn, giving these teams a larger pool of players to select from. It also creates "some" bloated egos from the coaches, the parents, and the players. It's like belonging to an exclusive country club. You'll find some good golfers and some bad ones. In conclusion, ECNL is part propaganda, part hope, and all business.

Anonymous said...

9:42

Since you seem to have a great understanding of the big picture of American girls youth soccer, what is your proposed vision for how things should be organized and run?

Just Soccer said...

I might be wrong but I'm going to assume that you're an ECNL parent. The problem with these exclusive leagues is that they exclude. The majority of kids won't be able to compete in them. Not because of lack of talent but perhaps because lack of funds or location of the ECNL club. We always look to try and organize things better, even when those things can't possibly be organized. These are not professional players were talking about. They're just kids. Teams don't pay for them to play or pay for their travel expenses. I personally would like to see more regions than the standard 5. Maybe just 4 or 5 states in each region. Teams from those states can play each other all year with a big tournament at the end, that each state could could take turns hosting. I'm not unrealistic. I know this could never happen because a lot of people and tournaments would lose a lot of money, and none of these people would ever slaughter their cash cow on purpose.

Anonymous said...

Christ

entire chunks of disappearing prose......

Anonymous said...

Ecnl is for the haves that systemically exclude the have nots for the simple reason of not wanting their Mia loosing their spot to a more able Mia who can't afford to take her spot. It would be interesting to collect data on the demographics of ECNL players I bet the income is 100k or better...without a doubt exclusionary.

Anonymous said...

The truth is that any so-called "high level" travel soccer is exclusionary.

There are many non-ECNL clubs that are more expensive than ECNL clubs.

The real cost is in the travel.

Didn't I read that GFA is going to Florida? Who is paying for that?

What are the fees to play at Copa?

Anonymous said...

ECNL is another league to get players to where ever their next soccer destination is...maybe college. I dont know why everyone talks like the end all be all is D1 or better yet the national team. There is plenty of good quality soccer destinations besides those two.
Here's a couple of questions for you.
Can you get a job with "firm XYZ" if you went to a state university via jr college first? Of course. You work hard, keep your eye on your goal and be ambi you can. Can you get to the same job with XYZ if you went to a IVY league school? Of course, maybe things will be easier (maybe not), maybe networking will be easier(maybe not), maybe your future boss will be impressed with the name on your diploma, Ivy school will be more exclusionary due to price and location, but should we water down the Ivy's or add schools to the ivy's so its more fair and even? Probably not. Not everything is fair, nor does it have to be. All leagues are not equal, all leagues are not the same price, all leagues do not have to be by your home, and not all leagues play will have similarly talented girls. Just because they are not does not mean its just a money grab or a sham or hoax. It's just not for you, that's fine. If you want everything to be equal, lets all play rec, everyone plays all positions at some point in the game and we can get our participation medal after every game. Sound good?

Anonymous said...

Good arguement however when you talk about IVY all kids have equal acess. School, books etc...equal playing field. Ecnl is not providing equal playing field. They exclude. Schools reach into every area of a neighborhood to provide an equal chance. So your comparison does nor fit. Sounds ligit but it not equal which acceptable for ECNL because they could care less about children as a whole. The repsonsiblity lies with the ECNL umbrella but they won't waste there time reaching into underprivileged communities because they can't make money that's the bottom line. It is a league for the haves not the able and willing. Its unfortunate thatbyou believe that the unequal is okay but that is usually the mentality of the privileged. Selfish.

Anonymous said...

Yes, actually it is the middle class that is excluded by the Ivy's.

Too poor to pay full price, too rich to qualify for aid.

Anonymous said...

4:34

The parents and some fundraising are paying for GFA'S Florida trip.

Copa's fees are $3500/$4000.

Anonymous said...

10:10 I think it is their own business how they pay, like is their own business how the ECNL parents are paying for all the traveling for just one game every weekend.

Anonymous said...

Yikes $3,000-$4,000 for Copa!

Anonymous said...

Copa is 5000$ times 3: 5k5k5k! (Copa COPA COPA!)

Anonymous said...

But at least you get a nice black jacket with a BIG C on it

Anonymous said...

@5:25 Ivy's give all kids equal access? Are you insane? Is there anything more exclusionary that IVY leagues? Harvard tuition 58K, Rutgers 28K...how is that equal. Why is up to ECNL to make things equal, because yes in the end they are a business, so are Universities last I checked. Not only do I think its OK that things are not equal, I think that is the reality, until people like you cry that things aren't fair. How is ECNL unfair? You try out, your good enough you make it. Just like school. If its too expensive deal with the debt, just like school. Do your kid a favor and explain to her that she may not go out with the cute football QB, she might not score in every game, she might not make every team she trys out for, she might not have the nicest car or biggest house. Life is not fair. Im a realist, not selfish. If you disagree, take your participation trophy and go home.

Anonymous said...

It is because of people like you selfish in mind heart and soul that leads others into thinking that having inequalities is part of life and dealing with is a natural struggle. However no matter how you slice if you don't have means for school you still have access through hard work and student loans. With ECNL you don't have an equitable playing field even if your good enough to play. So once again take a look at the demographics in ECNL its not equitable and no its not okay. You put that same program with in reach of a community where people who have the skill and access through a sliding scale tuition your Mia will not be not be on the field. So by design ECNL clubs establish themselves as far as possible to protect their upper crust oligarchs from the better athletes. So all of the silver spoons can be grouped together not by ability but by income. Hence why your u14 program is in the toilet. All money and some skill.the real talent has yet to be tapped and in jersey it will never happen because people like you feel that unfair is equal Mr. Fergussan.

Anonymous said...

Fees area all similar at COPA, PDA, MF, Barrons, Wildcats, Stronghold, Stallions, NJ Crush. The difference becomes travel. The more your team travels the more cost to you.

Anonymous said...

Fees are not similar that's hearsay. The list of NPL-Nonecnl clubs just listed are not equitable too. The same concept of rigorous training can be applied as nonprofit but greed trumps the idea of providing a similar product at a fair rate that is feasible for all. The same energy that is geared to generate a successful program at the ecnl, npl etc...levels can be applied to all but then it provides access to athletes that are systemically excluded. Take the silver spoon out of your pocket and your less then average ecnl player would not have chance. Many academies promise the world but never share an honest opinion that a players just wont cut it."oh yes with training and additional training and camps she will go from jags, EDP,npl, ecnl and will land a chance to compete blah blah..20 grand and 6 years later no progress, scholarship, not even a thank you for lining their pockets.

Anonymous said...

Did a poster really suggest taking on debt to play in the ECNL? Very irresponsible post. Do not do that!! ECNL is a youth soccer league. It is not of any value that would justify taking on debt.

Anonymous said...

Play for a team your family can afford. You are not jeopardizing your child's future if you cannot provide her with high level soccer. It is not education or health care.

High level expensive youth sports are a luxury product. It is a very nice activity if you can afford to indulge but is hardly a necessity. Do not get wrapped up in the unfortunate attitude of superiority that accompanies some of of this youth sports insanity. Just find a good spot for your girl and move on.

Anonymous said...

Not the previous poster, but I believe the he/she was continuing to make the IVY school analogy. Even if something seems out of reach, wether its a school or a soccer club, if you want it bad enough there are ways to work for your goals, besides just saying its unfair change it.
I think playing at a high level, players and parents have to understand there will be sacrifices; travel, social , money spent, vacations.
I think seeming to think that everything should be equal is just not realistic.
Btw, one of the main reasons there are no ECNL teams in urban areas is they demand that clubs own their own fields. I know in my area fields are booked from early morning till well after dark, to have my club join ECNL and have them occupy the fields for a whole day or weekend is not feasible...and bad business for our town.

Anonymous said...

I would say making an ivy league education analogous to participation in a particular youth soccer club or league equally irresponsible. Even if the soccer product is high quality that is a silly comparison. The education can provide a student with an expertise from which she can earn a living.

Anonymous said...

As part of the occupied space the big club should work with and give back to the community through opportunities. It not about crying unfair its about inclusion not exclusion.

Anonymous said...

the comparison with Ivy started because a previuous poster called it elitest and exclusionary. Similar to how people percieve Ivy's, obviously not to what can be gained from it in the end.
I just dont know how ECNL is excludes, open try outs are just that, open to all. If you are good enough for the coach and your Mia fits his team's needs you will be offered a spot. i dont think the coach is making decisions on where you live or how much you make. If it's location is inconvienient for you and you want something closer...that's pretty much the definition of selfish.

Anonymous said...

Life is not about what you gain or how you live its about the imprint that is left once you move on. Realism as someone posted earlier is what we as society make of it. So why not give back where it matters most to those in need. Exclusionary clubs are profit driven a luxury is right its crazy how society accepts the despairity that exist among children.

Anonymous said...

OK..I agree that both Ivy league (and many other elite educational institutions) and ECNL are elitist and exclusionary.

IMO, the ivy league (or any other top notch university) game, as rigged as it is, would be worth making significant sacrifices to try to play. The quality of the education if you take advantage of it, could lead to real future economic gain.


As far as the ECNL, it is exclusionary by income but it is just a youth program so, oh well. There is no significant life advantage to participating in ECNL over a lower cost option. You may get a better soccer education, better competition, maybe better connection to college programs if you are interested...worthy of minor, not major, sacrifice to play.

Anonymous said...

Wow a soccer blog with social commentary.
Look were not talking about a kid of upper class globe trotting to games(however that is measured these days) and someone on the poverty line who is a natural talend only if given the chance. Assuming all the previous posters are playing more that rec soccer (because no rec soccer parent is on a U14 soccer blog). Were talking about the difference in your elite travel league and my elite travel league.

Anonymous said...

My "elite" travel team costs $1150 per kid per year (fall, winter spring) including ALL costs (even tacked on the $50 in raffle tickets). Not insignificant and out of reach for many families of course but much more affordable than and ECNL type team.

Anonymous said...

Let me guess, coaches are volunteers and fields belong to township?

Anonymous said...

News flash: there are no super studs out there playing school-ball only who are "deprived" of the elite soccer experience and who are waiting in the wings for a sugar daddy to fund them into the ECNL where, with their amazing skills developed on the playground, they will usurp your child. Might be true within the recent immigrant population, where there may be a soccer culture among males, but girls are not included in that group's soccer culture.

Anonymous said...

Coaches are paid for practices and games but fields are not owned by club. My 3 kids are having a great time with this great sport. They are not weak players..2 are strong, one ok. 2 also play summer select team for another $400 each

I am sure the high level clubs have beautiful facilities, nice uniforms, quality instruction, competitive tournaments, etc, etc. I don't begrudge it to any kid.

But IMO, I don't see the wisdom of a sacrifice for youth sports over other important priorities. Especially with multiple kids playing.

Anonymous said...

All "super studs" play elite soccer regardless of income.

Anonymous said...

No one will be usurping your ECNL player's place. There are no better players available outside of that league.

Just Soccer said...

I think my post was taken out of context because it started a debate about social injustice. My point was that ECNL is not a better brand of soccer or the major league of youth soccer. Because your daughter belongs to an ECNL team doesn't mean that she's the best of the best, getting the best of the best coaching, with the best of the best facilities. In fact, there's a couple of girls on these teams that get a break on team fees. maybe they get to play for half the price or maybe in some occasions they play for free, depending on how good the coaches in the organization think they are. That bit of information might bother a couple of parents are paying full price, but it's just a part of reality in this type of system. Naturally every parent wants the best for their child. My point is that perhaps looking at the "elite" league format closer and understanding that they're not going to get your child into college scholarship any faster then other leagues that just can't get into that exclusive ECNL club.

Anonymous said...

The cost of the travel involved adds up to more than the club fees.

Anonymous said...

I didn't say there are no better players outside of the league, although when it comes to my child that is a truth :),I said there is no kid currently either not on a team at all or in ymca/ rec type free programs who is better. I believe that because she hasn't gotten the training or played hours on the playground with older better players who are mostly boys. Further, I do not think there are many, if any, players who aren't playing at least in the top 2 flights of major tournaments who are poised ready to break into the ECNL. Haven't played with and against enough competition to develop into ECNL players. Because I doubt the reading comprehension abilities of many in this readership I will say this another way: If your child is one of the top players on a team who is usually seeded in the top 2 flights of at least regional level (newss, pda, jeff cup, spirit, fc delco etc) tournaments she probably could break into an ECNL team at this time, especially in NJ.

Anonymous said...

But I am also saying that I don't think there is an unknown Mia out there unless she has been playing her whole career on a boys team. Most of us know the ones that are currently playing up

Anonymous said...

Say.............

a phenom tennis player or golfer who has vbeen playing just that sport her entire life

Or someone who committed at age 7 to softball or basketball year round

That player - a "natural" - couldnt mix in with an ECNL team at this age? Just on natural ability?

Hmmmm...

not buying it.

I think all of our daughters benefit from the "everyone is not doing it" advantage.

Anonymous said...

Not in today's world of youth sports.

Highly specialized training starting at a young age in all sports.

I won't say there aren't any, but extremely rare for a girl to kick a ball around a playground or on a rec team for years and be able to step into ECNL at this age or any other high level league for that matter.

Anonymous said...

If you want to see what it looks like when your basketball or track superstar tries to play soccer, go to a high school game. HS teams always have those types.

My daughter's high school team had a girl who was a track star with incredible speed. Against less skilled teams she looked like a soccer stud.

But her first touch and ball skills were awful. When she played better teams, she was very easy to shut down.

Of course I always wondered what she could have been if she had started proper training at a young age, but it was nothing more than "what if".

Anonymous said...

You can find all of the above just simple by playing for Copa

Anonymous said...

5:02

Its rare that it happens

Not having anything to do with whether it could happen



Anonymous said...

Yeah, and I'll take the odds that you will get struck by lightning three times in the same week over a softball stud stepping onto an ECNL or other elite league team without any training.

Anonymous said...

Do I need to delete internet cookies and temporary files after I post on this site?

Anything else?

Anonymous said...

Why?

Anonymous said...

Is there a sport a soccer stud could take up with? success

Anonymous said...

My son doesnt play soccer

He could make the PDA team right now

Anonymous said...

On the girl's side he would not stand a chance, Maybe he would do fine with the boys.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad we are talking about issues outside of chest pumping. How about the possibility of champions from leagues throughout mosa, northern counties, cjysa, mnjsya EDP, npl play a championship round robin tournament not for points but to assess how each league is progressing?

Anonymous said...

Forgot ecnl..from jersey too.

Anonymous said...

question - on academy teams, or teams where coach is paid, do you give a large team gift or any team gift for that matter? just moved my daughter to an academy level team, and was unsure what was appropriate. or does a card suffice?

Anonymous said...

D&D card or Starbucks should be suffice...with a card...gift card from Dick's or Sports Authority

Anonymous said...

I wouldnt think its frowned upon to not give a holiday or end of season gift.

Many teams do it as a unit. If on your own, fo what is comfortable.

Anonymous said...

Our rules specify no gifts to trainers

Anonymous said...

A sport a soccer stud can't take up and succeed is track and field.

Anonymous said...

9 22
you can t be serious. You must of meant , track to soccer, like someone mentioned earlier.
Track & field, pure athleticism for most events. The cross over to the 400 is easy for many elite soccer players.

Anonymous said...

Track and field at high level has technique and strategy that must be learned, practiced and mastered.

Anonymous said...

I meant can succeed!

Anonymous said...

Anything good out of annandale this past weekend?

Anonymous said...

If fa continue their march towards being national champions.

Anonymous said...

GFA on fire in Florida, keep winning and winning, this is the real stage now girls, great job coaches, trainers and to the girls who make it happen

Anonymous said...

National Championship? ECNL, NPL, USYS, US Club & Supet Y all have them but don't include all teams so it's just a title which means nothing unless you have gone through your State, then Region then to face winners from other a Regions can you claim you are playing for a National Championship so relax.

Anonymous said...

San Diego Surf are the National Champions having win their State Championship, Region & Nationals. Look it up as you will see you don't play teams like them & won't see them in Florida playing the very antiquated Super Y which hadn't been relevant in years just another money grab. MAPS Challenge & Super Y? Team needs some real guidance.

Anonymous said...

Nothing is good enough for you. Even GFA won against the winner of the Wags tournament-top bracket. But that's ok. We have fun in Florida while you are sitting in your fat chair.

Anonymous said...

One minute WAGS is ligit then its not? So the champ of the top Bracket at WAGS are not so good??? BTW doubt a GFA parent is banging their chest. It is a troll responding to self.

Anonymous said...

Long Island rough riders and Valkyries got to represent region 1 in Tampa fla in super y these teams are from tri state area . They have played very well in Tampa against many girls that play ecnl . I wish Valkyries good luck i wish we were playing you in the finals the Orlando city game was a tough game for us . Long Island good job girls we are proud of you all .

Anonymous said...

Super Y is a summer league which ECNL teams do not compete in... So not sure where GFA have played ECNL teams in Florida...

Anonymous said...

Do you sick bastards realize you are talking about 13 & 14 year old girls?? I mean get a life already!! The girls from all the teams you speak about on a regular basis play the game for one reason...the love of the game. They are all good players and should be applauded for the hard work and dedication they put into the game. I do not care if you are playing ECNL, NPL, EDP or JAGS!! Support the kids...they deserve it!!

Anonymous said...

Super y is a summer league but they have ecnl players playing on teams stop hating . Long island and valkryies represented tri state are well .

Anonymous said...

Orlando city ia an ecnl team.

Anonymous said...

Hey slick stop hating. Worry about your MiA not ours. You didn't care before so why care now.

Anonymous said...

ecnl is only place to play,the rest a waste of time and $$$

Anonymous said...

Champions League should be interesting.....

No need to compare. Teams dont have a choice to play ECNL. They play in the top league and tournaments for which they are allowed.

ECNL braying is silly. You're a top league - and we play the top competiton which we are allowed to face. Pretty simple.

Anonymous said...

GFA #1 in NJ for a split second & ECNL team back at the top. SJEB are now below GFA which must not make them happy. Stallions dropped as expected as the only success they had on their own was this years State Cup. Copa still hanging in but will need a much better Spring to stay in the top 5-8 teams in NJ. Spring will be interesting for a bunch of teams now that their players won't be playing HS & Middle School ball which should cut down on the injuries & give a real look into what their teams will look like. Happy holidays to all & good luck to all teams in the Spring.

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to all that big talk from Wildcat DOC & parents? If they didn't win the 2nd flight of EDP a flight only valued at barely over 4,000 pts they wouldn't even be ranked 21st. I guess that's why they have been quiet. Need a big Spring or players will be leaving there as didn't the keepers Mom say she was a top 5 keeper?

Anonymous said...

Igfa will win the EDP north division this weekend easily over TSF.

Anonymous said...

I hope so as TSF is not a very strong team. Commack should have won the flight who beat GFA.

Anonymous said...

If GFA finishes with more points than commack than how "should have" commack won? the flight?? Makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

3-1 win over GFA enough said.

Anonymous said...

Interesting logic. It is sufficient to win a single game to proclaim the league championship. There are more games to play to prove it not just a single success. What's your logic on the fact that GFA won against New Hyde Park 2:0 and 3:0 (Newss) while Commack lost 2:1. Also, what about the HBC matchups? Have an objective prospective and hide your subjective view so you dont look like a fool.

The win in a single game means only that on that day you scored more goals - congrats. It doesnt make you the champ.

Anonymous said...

US soccer announces sricter requirements for the development program on the boys side. Here is the kicker......they say stricter girls requirements coming in early 2015.....ECNL can say goodbye to Highschool soccer


http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/12/08/10/43/141208-ynt-coaching-initiatives-rel

Anonymous said...

GFA CANT BEAT BRICK ,WHO CANT BEAT FREEHOLD,WHO CANT BEAT SJEB,WHO CANT BEAT HOMDEL,WHO CAN BEAT COPA,SO THAT MAKES ECNL #1 IN NJ

Anonymous said...

Logic is at the end of the season where maybe Commack has injuries they struggled against New Hyde Park but doesn't mean Commack isn't better then GFA just means they ended the season with a bad loss that opens the door for a lesser team to win the division. There are always teams that will be bad match ups based on how they play or how familiar they are with certain teams. Overall you look at quality wins & GFA has SJEB but little else this season. Take the top teams in the Region which SJEB is one of them & that is the only team they have 1 win over no others. GFA needs to show they can beat them again & beat other top teams before they can be considered one themselves. Beating New Hyde Park & Stallions who are not strong State Champions isn't much. A lot of teams beat those teams this season convincingly as well.

Anonymous said...

Is someone forgetting to their muzzle on their kid. Too much ECNl is detrimental to their ego which will damage their psyche...if that's the case MF and PDA should bebat the bottom since they have not played anyone from Nj at all...I'm sure they'll get embarrassed at their tournemnta come spring. It never fails.

Anonymous said...

5:05 your logic is well.. Your logic. Last season COPA won even less than that and everybody saying they were great. Hbc is a bad team? Tie with WC is that bad? Keeping consistency in the EDP league is bad? A team plays whoever is there to play. Are u sure for facts that commack lost players due to injuries? Can it be that ( looking at their recent performance also at NEWSS) that commack just happen to have a better day in that game?
Anyway you have the right of your logic and everybody has their right to hate. I understand it might bother somebody but I think IGFA is having a good season. Good for them. Only thing to do is keep working.
Now haters please go ahead with your list and stuff to prove that a simple statement like " they are having a good season" is wrong. My daughter plays for sta by the way and definitely we didn't have a good season.

Anonymous said...

GFA has been invited to the World Class - invitation only tournament with very strong teams. Why? Because the coach is not afraid to be challenged. He saw the GFA playing at the NEWSS and probably believes the team is strong enough to compete against his group.

Looks like WC doesn't care about its ECNL status but it does about the development. The coach probably wants his girls to be challenged as it is a great way to develop and improve players' skills.

WC goes out and gets challenged. GFA tries to do the same. It is OK to lose for these teams. Is it for others?

Anonymous said...

Thanks for bringing the note to our attention.
Interesting and positive moves by US Soccer.
However 9:57 is just stirring things up by talking elimination of girls high school,soccer and stricter what ever. go read it yourself , makes a lot more sense than any of the misinformation you ll see on this site.
and now back to our regularly scheduled program
ECNL vs NPL vs Town Teams
LOL

Anonymous said...

Hi,

December 11, 2014 at 5:05 AM,

don't you think you look pathetic?

This alibi can be used by everyone. What makes you think that GFA was in full power when they played you that day or the whole season? Do you think the GFA team had a magic blessing from God to be always in full power and 100% healthy with no injuries.

Btw., everyone can use this excuse. So, please be more careful when you use such silly arguments to make your point.


Anonymous said...

Point I think is other then 1 win over SJEB who has GFA ever beaten? They won a tournament that no one was in & made 1 final with their win over SJEB but tied a depleated Copa team too. There are a decent team that may be on their way to being a top team but they still have a ways to go. Let's see if they play SJEB 4 or 5 more times what their record will be.

Anonymous said...

3:21 lol ok whatever you say. funny how you mentioned a tie with copa but not a 4-0 few weeks later. it's ok

Anonymous said...

Still waiting to hear the list of wins over top teams from the Region by GFA. Crickets exactly.

Anonymous said...

Hbc: 4:2 Splash 6:1 SJEB 4:2 WC 0:0 .......

Anonymous said...

Splash 6-1?

Anonymous said...

Someone mentions where are the WINS over top teams other then the 1 win over SJEB & you come back with a tie, a win over a solid team & some indoor win? Just shows you where you are really at if that is all you can come up with. Granted they probably have not faced a lot of top teams since this was their 1st season even getting in top flights but you need to have some wins against top teams to be considered one yourself. Based in the top teams from Region 1 what is you overall record vs them? Need to see a lot more before we'll believe the hype. EDP North was not strong this season with NYSC not in it. Let the Soring season play out before you make claims of being something that the future seasons may prove you are not ie Jackson, Freehold, Wildcats & Copa.

Anonymous said...

5:17 you are absolutely right. Trolls please leave IGFA alone and focus on the REAL great teams. IGFA would like to keep working in SILENT .
Blog please ignore them , they are not good. Let's focus on important teams.

Anonymous said...

LOL. There are no "important" U14 soccer teams.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately teams can't pick and choose who they play. GFA enter tournaments hoping to get flighted in the highest bracket and play the best competition that is available at that time. They played in a very competitive EDP league and did very well. Let's not forget, GFA has only been together for 1.5 years. For anyone to say what they have done over that time frame is anything short impressive is dilusional. Take the last 25 games that GFA played, 17wins, 5 ties and 3 losses.. Not too bad in my opinion. I don't care who your playing. Like i said, you can't pick and choose who you are going to play. GFA won't win every game they play but they will definitely be competitive in every game they play!

Anonymous said...

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: having serious meaning or worth : deserving or requiring serious attention

: having power, authority, or influence


Anonymous said...

This blog doesn't determine who is good or bad but the results. Since GFA is only 1.5 year around, let's give it some time (+ spring) to see where the team stands. Based on GFA's GotSoccer ratings, the team will be placed in the top level flights in the upcoming tournaments. It will have to show how strong/weak they are. So, stop chasing them, hating them, give the team time to make your subjective evaluations more objective.

Wish GFA well or any other team that works/train hard, if you are really a soccer supported.

Anonymous said...

at u8, it doesnt matter
at u10, wait til you get to the big field then it matters
at u12, dont worry we are just developing it really starts at u14
at u14, we are just getting better and positioning ourselves for when it matters at U16
at U16, i know the college coaches dont really care about you sophomores just yet, we just need to make sure we do well so we are in position for when it matters at U17

yes coaches and trainers......you said it

Anonymous said...

Say it ain't so!

You've mean I've been getting strung along all these years, living through my daughter's accomplishments, getting fleeced, and there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

Anonymous said...

12:54, brilliant

Anonymous said...

I really do hope that the troll just goes away. Blast your team. Who is ? We really don't care but it seems not much is happening there since you are so worries about others.....that's why you were passed by because you are more focused on judging other when you should be judging yourself. Nonetheless. The top 15 of region 1 teams are ligit. And BTW a win over Florida Sting is a quality win. 2-0. Over time they will have more while your team has what??? Zilch!!

Anonymous said...

12:54 - BEST COMMENT EVER.
Every coach from every club - it's universal!

Anonymous said...

GFA is so good they should just make them the U14 national team already!! Who gives a Sh!+ . Your good your bad you 14 your hurt your whatever.

Anonymous said...

Enjoy the holidays.

Anonymous said...

Igfa will win EDP north easy today over their current training partner which will demote TSF down a division. Interesting dynamic with these two teams as they prepare for merge at u15.

Anonymous said...

What happens at u15 with tsf and igfa? Do they make one team and drop the rest of the girls ?

Anonymous said...

GFA is a good team. I am not a troll or a GFA parent. But look at them. They have been together for 1 year ONLY. Their last 25 games is 17 wins...4 ties...and 3 loses. They went to Florida last week and got 2nd place. Won at Maps Tournament...thats a lot to accomplish in 1 year. Also they beat Copa 2 times and tied once. They also beat Splash 2 times (6-1 and 2-1) They tied with World Class. So yes...they still have to be competative and all and keep working. But give them some credit. They are a good team. They deserve it.

Anonymous said...

GFA is a good solid team so let's just stop there. 2 wins over PDA you have to stop because it makes you look silly & they are not the benchmark anymore as they are struggling this season as teams have caught up & passed them. I'm not even sure they are the top team in NJ anymore either. Let's let the Spring play out for all the teams before we talk about who is on the rise & who is on the decline.

Anonymous said...

I don't see those GFA wins over Splash on their schedule. Can somebody tell me where to find them?

Anonymous said...

Stop finally.

Splash has had declining performance and its clear based on its Pda Showcase + State Cup very close wins against average teams + Ecnl games that the team struggles.

GFA has been progressing but has ups and downs which proves immaturity. But to say the team is weak shows lack of respect or simply pure ignorance.

Manhattan Tournament + Jefferson Cup + Pda Showcase + NJ State Cup in the upcoming spring will clearly show where both teams stand.


Now, enjoy your weekend.

Anonymous said...

So after all this GFA talk of winning easy did they beat TSF yesterday? No score is posted.

Anonymous said...

The game wasn't played.

TSF wasn't AV to play...

Anonymous said...

Some parents and coaches are delusional. It is clear as day that when their children are in the level play drops significantly yet they are the only ones who do not see it. The players see it, parents see it, other spectators see it. And the only one that dose not it is them. They blame other factors like the starters. Not the fact the player dribbles with their head down the whole time, or that their first touch bounces six yards from their feet, or that their daughter is clearly ineffective at 50/50 balls gets caught from behind on breakaways, or plays scared more than half the time, or less than half the size verses the opposition. What should parents do? Deal with it? Look for a new team? Or should they voice their opinion?

Anonymous said...

If you feel like it's not the right fit for your daughter you explore other options at the end of the season. Hard for a parent to tell a coach who they should play just because you think there are better options when you don't know what they base the playing time on. At this point if your daughter cannot play 25 mins a game at least then maybe that's not the right team for their level of play? Most of the parents that complain are the delusional ones they just don't see it in their child just everyone else's. If the player is happy, being treated fairly & is getting better then that should be all that matters to you not her position or how many minutes they play compared to another player as that just causes disharmony on any team. Unless the player is not happy there isn't really a reason to switch teams.

Anonymous said...

Should 17-20get more minutes than 12-12-16?

Anonymous said...

How about when the bench players are not as skilled yet they still get minutes? Isn't that Rec. Mentality?

Anonymous said...

Club and DOC philosophy should be clear before kid joins team.

If philosophy is stronger players get the playing time, then the stronger players should expect toa lot play more.

If the philosophy is to develop the skills of all the team members and not focus as much on the win /loss record, stronger players should not expect a lot more playing time.

Know the philosophy of the organization you put your kid in to avoid disappointment after the fact.

Anonymous said...

not focus on the win is the way a bad team sells it.

Anonymous said...

So join a "good team" that plays the strong players as policy if that is what you want.

Anonymous said...

By U14 it should be clear what type of environment you are looking for. Don't understand all the complaints.

Anonymous said...

would PDA be a club that would play the strongest players? Looking at their A team.

Anonymous said...

13 kids play most of the minutes, I believe

Real good team

Anonymous said...

If you are on a good team that plays to win then is u14 the end of the developmental phase? When does change from development to competing to win? There has to be point in the process were the better players are carrying the team to the top and the rest support at the right times, right? If not then PDA is the right fit because they put a lineup to win and let the development take place at practice or against softer competitors. As much as I bashed ECNL maybe that is a true platform. Guess that's why by u16 all the dead weight is left behind and the better players leave the town mentality after being held back by let's share minutes philosophy regardless if the drop in play puts a loss in the column.

Anonymous said...

Problem with this thought is without game time experience it's hard for a player to really get that much better just from training. I have seen over the years players that were not the best on the team over time become one of the top players & that came through training, game experience & encouragement from the coaches by continuing to give those players minutes in games that maybe hurt the team at that time but benefitted the player & team down the road which is true player development. For the players it was the best situation for the other players at the time who were better then maybe they felt like it wasn't. Sometimes the best players now won't be the best players down the road so it's a good idea to develop the rest of the team on the way.

Anonymous said...

As a result of the better player getting less minutes, they begin to regress. There is a time and place for every player and the balance of playing time for any player may not always fit the game. Therefore is it appropriate to play 17-20 when the game counts for placement or advancement? Is it worth risking the efforts of 1-11 and 12-16 because of sharing time? The factors that you mentioned are valid about game experience but when the dynamic of the game has shifted in favor of the other team should 17-20 be left in? As a result other players on the field have to use more energy, take more risk, and sacrifice leaving their mark to continuously cover the gaps left on the field because 17-20 can't keep pace with the demand of the game.

Anonymous said...

All players playing every game or strongest playing to win should not be a mystery.

You sound like you are of the play to win philosophy so look for a team that plays to win and will not play every player if the result would be at risk.

Anonymous said...

I don't feel that accepting a lesser role on a team is appropriate at the youth soccer level. Kids need to play and gain filed experience in order for their games to fully develop.
Accepting a role on a team is fine for high school or college, not for youth soccer. I don't understand how parents keep their kid in a situation where they are not playing very much. That can't be very valuable for anyone, regardless of what the coach or doc are preaching to you. Find a level where your kid is playing at least half the game, even if it is not a so-called top team. She will have much more fun and most likely gain confidence in herself and her game will improve.

Anonymous said...

It is not accepting a lesser role. Its called natural selection. Eventually some players will not be able to compete at the higher level. So why should the higher level players suffer if the DOC has made it clear that some players are just not there yet.

Anonymous said...

The players do not dictate the club philosophy. The players should seek out a club that suits what they want.

It seem you are playing on the wrong type of team. You should seek out the right fit for your player. You cannot expect the club to alter their developmental / business model to accommodate your needs. You are the customer and should research and buy the product you desire.

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