Monday, April 23, 2018

U17 (2001) Girls Youth Soccer

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Anonymous said...

Um it’s on the website?

Anonymous said...

i think it was sarcasm. why would the rest of us care?

Anonymous said...

Great wins for PDA DA teams today over PF!

Anonymous said...

PDA did win in a 2-1 in a slugfest. PDA scored on two free kicks, awarded by the center ref when his seeing eye dog barked twice to let him know there might have been and infraction. PF player that ended up with a fractured ankle and broken nose almost was awarded a penalty, but the seeing eye dog was urinating on the PF bench at the time and didn't see the play. PF had multiple opportunities, but couldn't put the biscuit in the basket.

Anonymous said...

9:51 Great wins and a great loss. Its all great, right?

Anonymous said...

Watch the game back. She went for a tackle and tripped herself up, there was no foul for the ref to miss. Nice try though.

Anonymous said...

8:47
Typical delusional PF parent . YOU LOST , get over it already !

Anonymous said...

But there was a foul called. On PF for the tackle attempt from behind! Penn Floppin players in general had a tough time staying on their feet that game.

Anonymous said...

@8:47

What game were you watching? Obviously not the same one the rest of us watched and the first goal was the result after a great passing sequence followed by an fantastic shot not a free kick.

Anonymous said...

It was a great game with PF having some great chances as well and some totally blown finishes. It was just kind of surprising to see the ref remove his shirt after the game and see a PDA shirt underneath it. No doubt though PDA deserved the win as they were definitely mentally tougher throughout the game, and have honed their flopping technique down to a science unsurpassed by any DA team. Superman would be proud of how they can catapult themselves like they were coming out of a cannon, and then land without putting their arms under them. That takes a certain amount of mental awareness and toughness the PF girls just don't have.
One thing I will never understand, is why only in NJ do the parents feel the need to line up across the whole field and yell instructions at their daughters? Those girls are some of the best players on our northeast coast and have an excellent coach, but it seemed like every ten feet there was a NJ parent lined up where their daughter was playing and yelling what to do. I am not a PF parent and was just there to watch the game with some friends and see the two best teams play. Actually asked one parent why he was way down with the PF parents and he simply stated "would you want to stand over there"? Is that it? Or is the umbilical noose that hard to break?

Anonymous said...

4:28
Tino is that you again ? You really need to stop posting excuses on here . PDA is the better club !

Anonymous said...

PDA is a great club and so is Penn Fusion. They both have great players. I do think the refing was questionable. I was watching as well no club attachment to either. In jorsey you get jorsey refs. nothing new and happens in all the leagues. USSF was supposed to be different.
Enjoy your Sunday evening before another snow storm comes in.

Anonymous said...

Penn Floppin hahaha like that! You got to admit it they would be better if they could stay on their feet.

Anonymous said...

4:28 here. Not Tino, but I am a fan of soccer and that was two very good teams going at it. The questionable reffing thing was brought up because at the Florida DA showcase, a DA administrator actually stopped one of the games in the first half and berated the ref because of the physicality he was allowing. Then preceded to talk to all of them at halftime and let them know that this is not what the DA wants from it's league. I know from seeing the west coast DA and ECNL teams play, that they are a little more technical and there's less physicality. Is that what the DA is looking for? Or do they really even know?

Anonymous said...

Physicality is needed.
Physicality does NOT equal dirty play, big difference.

Anonymous said...

9:03 Well said and true. But what happened at the Florida Showcase wasn't even a case of either team being dirty, and both sidelines kind of looked at each other kind of surprised. Good hard play without malice should be part of the game. Could of just been a case of an overzealous DA official also.

Anonymous said...

Penn FC announces partnership with PAC.

Anonymous said...

HMMS and Penn United is now the only holdouts in the area.

Anonymous said...

I guess a usl partnership is better than none?

Anonymous said...

I could see hmms but no way in hell is penn united partnering with classics

Anonymous said...

There some really good players on the Penn United team, but could you imagine all the red cards being thrown during negotiations between PAC and Penn United? In all seriousness though, PAC is really making some smart moves here. What they need to do next is merge with FC York and HMMS, I am told HMMS has some 02 players that are very solid impact players. Should be a huge spring tryout (numbers wise) for PAC this year and could really boost their DA team going into next year.
Rage Parent.

Anonymous said...

They already merged with FC York. Ballyhoo=FC York.

Anonymous said...

I agree. They are on the right path. Numbers should indeed be huge.

On another note, no change for the PF 02s next year. CS remains the coach. 01s finally get a new face.

Anonymous said...

3:09 Sorry, didn't know that they already merged. I'm thinking more about possible talent that may come in future years, than the present. SK and MH at PAC are really in the building mode.
Question for 3:09 Is it an actual merger like with Penn Legacy, where there will be combined tryouts with the goal of making the top team. Or is it just an affiliation type of thing? A total merger would bring in such huge numbers, PAC would end up with 3 teams at each age group.
Opposite end of the spectrum is our team, which is not even holding a tryout this year.

Anonymous said...

Why would a team not hold tryouts? Every team has areas they could look to improve in. Seems your coach is limiting potential.

Anonymous said...

https://www.soccerwire.com/notes/penn-fc-pro-and-youth-clubs-enter-ussda-partnership-with-pa-classics/

Anonymous said...

Wow - Penn FC is practically the west branch of the Cedar Stars - all under the same owner.

Altirs would now have 3 DA teams, 2 GDA teams.

Anonymous said...

PAC has already tried and failed at this. It was called PAC West.

Anonymous said...

5:24 I understand what you are saying about every team has areas it can improve upon, and we certainly do have those areas. Our coach would take a look at a player on an individual basis and see if it is a good fit for the team and the player. His goal this year is to make sure every player receives a maximum opportunity to be seen, and he is loyal to those that have been with him for the last few years. He is also a big believer that the continuity of the team can be just as important as the talent on it. Plus he doesn't like to carry more than 16 players if possible.
Rage Parent.

Anonymous said...

Self serving post for 7:23...
So are there players coach is looking to replace since he doesn't want additional players on roster??
My daughter has asked about your club...

Anonymous said...

7:31 Most likely after spring play our team will lose a few players as most teams do, and we currently sit at 16 players. I mentioned he likes to carry 16, but as we are heading into the U18/19 year, the coach understands he'll need to probably carry at least 18 this year, just to end up with 14 to 16 at tournaments. Either because they have already committed and parents don't want to make the trip, or simply because of injuries. Our teams is leaving for Las Vegas tomorrow morning and with two players down, only bringing 14 players (same as last year). I strongly encourage you to give him a call, and come to a couple practice sessions. It's better than a large tryout because then your daughter gets to see if she likes not just the skill level of the team, but the personality too. If you feel like it, Wikipedia EP, the Rage U17 coach and check out the coaching history. Hope to see your daughter at a practice session soon.

Anonymous said...

If you’re going to craft 3 ads in a row, at least add a link to the Wikipedia page and your team page in one if the posts - even if you’re faking an antagonistic response. People are lazy here.

Anonymous said...

Funny stuff 9:58

Thanks 9:04. I will talk to my daughter and contact your daughter's coach...or you, according to 9:58 :)

Anonymous said...

Sorry 9:58 I'm just not that clever or smart enough to do either (especially posting links). I'm barely intelligent enough to answer questions on here and not screw up grammar wise. Although I think I just did. That was a funny post though. Wikipedia Eric Puls, that is our coach and the length of my computer intelligence.

Anonymous said...


What is the D-I commitment list looking like for the Rage team at this point?

Anonymous said...

We have a few to some decent schools....
Stanford, Duke, S.Carolina, N.Carolina and Pennstate and a couple may sign while we're in Vegas...Princeton and W.Virginia

Your turn...how are D1 commits on your team?

Anonymous said...

Wow forget DA. Send your kid to Rage.

Anonymous said...

7:36 is obviously not a Rage parent as none of our parents are that much of a jackass (well, maybe one). We do not have any Power 5 commits like PF or PDA, but looks like we'll end up with 3 or 4 mid major commits and a couple D2's after Jeff CUp. We're obviously not a powerhouse, just a solid EDP team with some good players trying to catch a coaches eye like everyone else. Our outside wing is verbally committed with a full ride to Xavier, while offers are out for the others.
Rage Parent

Anonymous said...

Shout out to the honest Rage parent!!!

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion acquiring Western Lehigh

Anonymous said...

Jackass or good satire?
I just love the way our girls are only judged as good players if they commit to D1.
Like it or not, some girls actually plan out their future and pick the best school for their plans and not only by the soccer program.
Crazy right?

Anonymous said...

10:02 Whose judging good players by whether they go D1? Many parents would rather see their daughter not go D1, simply because of the commitment to the team versus academics. Great players, good players, average players, our daughters fall in that group somewhere and who know's what a coach is looking for? You need a blog title because your post always have a touch of bitterness and anger, especially towards any blogger that even hints his daughter or her club is having any type of success. I think we should go with "Angry Jack". I for one hope Angry Jack's daughter has tremendous success at whatever she chooses to do. Although it'll make him angry.

Anonymous said...

10:53, what would you suggest 10:14 was really asking?

Hangry jack

Anonymous said...

Not sure, other than the question that 10:14 posted. Maybe I'm a little to naive to read deeper into it (you'll have to tell me). 1776 has enjoyed just as much success as we have (if not more), so the same question could have been asked of them. You are right about girls planning their futures out and it doesn't have to include soccer, or at least not on a D1 or D2 scale, or at all. They all stop playing at some point.
RP

Anonymous said...

9:15 More impressive to me to get a great scholarship to a mid major than no scholarship/roster spot only to a Power 5. This is when parents need to step in and talk reality to their kids. First off, If they are committing for no money, will they ever see the field? That isn’t going to be so exciting in 2,3,4 years watching from the bench. Dream school or not. Next, unless money is no factor and mommy and daddy are ok footing the college bills for years to come that part won’t be exciting either. Coach list for Vegas is impressive. Good luck to the players.

Anonymous said...

12:25 That's kind of the reality check isn't it? The prestige of being on a great team but not playing, versus playing for a lesser school, getting your degree and actually being on field. Probably why women's soccer has such a high transfer rate and low freshmen retention percentage. So hard for most 16 year old's to really know what they want, so those options you mentioned need to be talked about.

Anonymous said...

Problem is much of the time parents are just as unrealistic. They want to pound their own chests. You see it on social media often. Awesome your kid committed to **** University! But....were they offered a scholarship? Are they likely to play?

Anonymous said...

you get 20k a year and walk way with 40k a year in bills.....wow great deal.....clueless....but me kid got a scholarship....lol

Anonymous said...

That was strange

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't pound my chest, but I would tell my neighbor who always ends up with 10 soccer balls in his yard.

Anonymous said...

3:34pm the majority of players at PF DA and Continental ECNL listed as committed to a Division I program have received a significant scholarship and will factor in to that programs future plans. This is how college recruitment works at the D-I level. It’s amazing to me that you are amazed by the possibility of player receiving a scholarship. This is the standard. If you are out of the loop then your club isn’t doing a good job or your daughter simply isn’t good enough for you to have an understanding of how the process works.

Anonymous said...

Not true

Anonymous said...

11:15 That is such a false statement and you should be ashamed of yourself for making it. I personally know some of those from PF and CFC, and they have said it's almost like walk on status and the coaches told them that they may get money the following year. I understand you are a club official and want to put the best spin on it, but to act like we don't know the parents personally is kind of insulting. Maybe if you didn't put the word "majority" in your statement, you would have been okay.

Anonymous said...

Love the anonymous blog...so much bs posted on here!

Anonymous said...

Good luck in Vegas RP.
And I agree 1776 is also a great team!
How many east coast/region 1 teams are out there?

Anonymous said...

9:00am Thanks. South Shore Select (MA). Baltimore Select Elite SC is all I saw on the list. In the National Division, which I think has to do with State Cup winners and all though they are not Region One, PAW Century, Cincy and Cleveland Futbol is out there. Last year there was 1776 parents on our same flights, so it made for a enjoyable trip as we got to know them a little better. We actually root for 1776 now and Mother Teresa (Big Red).
RP

Anonymous said...

Since Mr. List does all the important work keeping us updated on scores. I though I would help him out and list the Jeff Cup winners now.

Championship Bracket
1. Mclean
2. South Shore

Elite Bracket
1. Susa Elite
2. Az Arsenal Premier Teal

Superior Orange
1. Santa Monica United
2. NJ Wildcats

Superior Black
1. Beadling Elite
2. Watchung Hill NJ

Platinum Orange
1. Burlington SC Bayhawks (seeded way to low)
2. Seacoast United

Platinum Black
1. Yankee United
2. NEFC NPL

I think there are some teams that might be better than the teams listed as winners and runner ups, but their style doesn't lend itself to tournament play.

Anonymous said...

"but their style doesn't lend itself to tournament play"

What does this mean?

And this is showcase level right?

Anonymous said...

You might as well just pick the names out a of a hat. All the teams are capable of beating one another. As far as showcase, are coach showcases all the athletes equally. Equal time as well as equal time in starting. Good luck to all teams!!!!

Anonymous said...

1:51 These picks are chosen by a qualified professional that knows the sport inside and out. All known data is fed into a Quantum Super Computer, which takes in account such possibilities like ECNL teams finding less of a need to win, than maybe an EDP team would. Team formations and coaching tendencies in regards to whether they are in the lead or behind. Committed players that are stars playing less minutes. Any team can beat any other team no longer holds true. With our new Bloch Sphere design, increased superposition and reduced entanglement basically guarantees picking the winner of each game. It correctly picked the Presidential election results 9 out of 10 times, giving one win to Hillary based on the assumption that she could make then candidate Trump magically disappear.
9:58 Please see information listed above.

Anonymous said...

Well, McLean is clearly an amazing team - I will give you that. But while South Shore is very good, they are no lock for second place.

Anonymous said...

There are three groups that do not have a clear standout favorite. Arizona could finish ahead of SUSA, but travel time change will affect them.

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile in Vegas..

Reading Rage 0
FC Boulder 2

South Shore 2
Real So Cal 0

Anonymous said...

Not sure how strong the teams are they are going up against, but it's good to see the two Region One teams get a win.

Anonymous said...

Rage lost

Anonymous said...

Scratch that. It looks like they reported the score wrong. They now have Rage winning.

Anonymous said...

Rage won 4-1 over So Cal. Haven't seen the South Shore score yet. It's 55 degrees and windy in Vegas, must be a big advantage for the Region One teams.

Anonymous said...

What Real So Cal team is that?

Anonymous said...

Well it’s not the DA team. Real So Cal (Development Players League) and Real ask Cal Santa Clarita Valley are both out there.

Anonymous said...

So*

Anonymous said...

Why are we talking so much about Rage playing at a Showcase event? These games are played for the players with each playing a minimum of 50% of the game. Scrimmages for the college coaches (good luck girls)

In games that matter at the same event.
USYS National League games also being played.

Region1 teams

Red Division
BC United 01 (NY-W) aka Greater Binghamton Select already booked their spot to the USYS Nationals to be played in Texas.
With 3 other Texase spots up for grabs and 11 spots in next year's National League up for grabs. Lots of meaningful games to be played for the college coaches in attendance.

Black Division
Premier Navy 2001 (MD) sitting on 16 points with 1 game to be played should clinch a spot in Texas with a win against the ECNL B team from Tennessee (30 GA).

1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E) is scoreboard watching they are tied with Rebels, but a Rebels win vs Santa Clara knocs 1776 out of an auto bid for next year. They will need to win the ERL Elite title, or win PAE state Cup followed by winning the Region 1 title or apply for an Open spot
and leave it up to the committee. The same committe that took B teams from Tenn SC & EGA both giving up 30+ goals plus UFA who's at -17 GD for USDA B team.

Blue Division
Century V 01 Gold (PA-W) controls destiny to win an auto bid simply don't lose to Sting.

Arlington 2001 Red (VA) finished 7th out of 8 lucky for the UFA was in their division.

White Division
FC Frederick 01 (MD) is also scoreboard watching they need Celtic to not win vs Legends (USDA B team) who is currently in 2 nd place.

NJ Stallion Freedom (NJ) has been eliminated they sit in 5th and can finsih as low as 7th.


Side Notes
01 WHYFC White (NC) finished in 8th place in the White Division will be joing the ECNL next season.



Mr List.

Anonymous said...

USDA B team
SLAMMERS FC ECNL U17 (CAS)
LONESTAR SC LONESTAR 01G RED (TXS)

USDA/ECNL C team
REAL SO CAL-SCV G2001 WHITE (CAS)

ECNL A teams
MVLA 01G MILAN ECNL (CAN)
ARSENAL FC ECNL - GLENN (CAS)

Non-USDA/ECNL
READING RAGE '01 MORGAN (PAE)
FC BOULDER 01 GIRLS ELITE (CO)
MANDEVILLE LAKERS LPDL 01 (LA)

Anonymous said...

6:45 Even though Mr. List is tough on my daughter's team, I still enjoy the list and was kind of surprised by a couple of the finishes. There are always those teams that you respect, either because you played them or know the parents and players personally. Was hoping to see 1776, FC Fredrick and the Stallions fare a little better.
RP
Arsenal FC ECNL 1
Rage United 1

Anonymous said...

South Shore Select 3
West Coast FC ECNL 0

Third game score not reported.

Anonymous said...

RP not tough - happy your coach took the right approach for the kids. The team is not playing meaningful games (league/state cup) so he did the best thing for your kid, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Vegas, Jefferson and probably a few others. Love it.

But when talking meaningful games Leagues that advance their winners to regional/national events or State Cups that advance their winners to Regional/National events either you are playing or you are not.

Showcases should be played to showcase every player on a roster all 18 players play a minimum of 50% of the game, meaningful games have a short bench and are played to win a little more stress on the kids in addition to the showcases they do plus the schools that come to watch them play or sit on a bench during a meaningful game adds to the stress.

So I remember reading PL played all the kids on the roster equally regardless of the result - I applaud them even though players left. They had the correct formula for youth sports. None of this changes the fact that I like results and lists.

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Anonymous said...

Look at that. Mr. List made a list so we can get a loan. That Mr. List is a great guy!!!
That was a good explanation of "meaningful games", but kind of reminded me of Bill Clinton explaining his thoughts on what "sexual relations" actually means. That being said, I now understand your point and had a college coach explain to me why he likes state cup games and even high school playoff games (because of the stress of the one and done). So yeah, I think you won that round.
Speaking of the old PL team. I attended the PF vs PAC game today (9 ex PL players playing) and was treated to 1-0 PF win. Give PAC credit though, they battled throughout and went hard into every 50/50 ball.
RP

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Anonymous said...

2017-18 NATIONAL LEAGUE

Qualified For USYS National Championships Texas
Where they will play with the 4 Regional Champions
Premier Navy 2001 (MD)
FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
BC United 01 (NY-W)
TFA Elite 01 (OH-S)

Qualified for U18 National League via U17 National League
Premier Navy 2001 (MD)
Rebels 2001 Elite (CA-S)
FC Florida 2001 Elite Blue Predators (FL)
FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
Arizona Arsenal Teal (AZ)
Sting East Dunstan (TX-N)
BC United 01 (NY-W)
PacNW 01 Maroon (WA)
Nationals Union 01 Red (MI)
TFA Elite 01 (OH-S)
Celtic FC Premier SA (UT)
Legends FC 01 Academy II (CA-S)

Qualified via MRL Premier
FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO) becomes - OPEN
North Shore United 01 Blue (WI)
3.
4.

Qualified via SRPL
Charlotte SA North CABA (NC)
Lonestar SC 01 RE (TX-S)
3.
4.

Qualified via FWRL
PacNW 01 Maroon (WA) - becomes OPEN
2.
3.
4.

Qualified via ERL
1.
2.
3.
4.

Qualified via Regional Championships in addition to qualifying for Nationals in Texas
East Regional Cup Rep to 2018 Nationals
Midwest Regional Cup Rep to 2018 Nationals
South Regional Cup Rep to 2018 Nationals
West Regional Cup Rep to 2018 Nationals

Barry Lynch said...

Calling all 2001 Boys & Girls
Liverpool FC Academy New Jersey is seeking competitive and committed players to join our club for the 2018-19 season our tryouts are posted and we look forward to seeing you on the field.

http://www.liverpoolfcamerica-nj.com/south-tryouts

Anonymous said...

Region One teams takes top two brackets in Las Vegas. Each finishing with 3 wins and a draw.

South Shore Select 1
Hawaii Surf FC Academy 0

Rage United 1
Slammers FC ECNL 0

Onto Jeff Cup
Where does Mr. List actually come up with his list? Intern research? Over hyped soccer mom at home? HS teacher using soccer info as a teaching tool?

Anonymous said...

6:09 pm - were the PL players all playing for PAC or were some on PF as well?

Anonymous said...

There are former PL 01 players on both.

Anonymous said...

12:39 All the four former PL players now playing for Penn Fusion are 02's. And actually six former Penn Legacy girls playing for PAC, only two of them are 01's and four are 02's. (although I may be off by one with PAC)
There was only seven 01's on that PL team and three are on Rage. Others went to Continental and Penn United.
Question for any NJ Wildcat parents out there. Our Penn Legacy team use to have some great battles against that NJ team, especially since it seemed like we always ended up in the same brackets. Did that Wildcat team break up the same was as ours did? Or did they stay with the organization and just move to their associated birth year team?.
Lastly, can we get some decent weather for Jeff Cup? This has been a brutal March so far.

Anonymous said...

Congrats Rage, good run!
Were there 2 DA games past weekend?
Sounds like PAC held their own v PF

Anonymous said...

Thanks 11:07 I stayed home, so missed the fun out west. Congrats to South Shore for winning their bracket as well (also 3 wins and a draw). Although I do think that playing four games in less than a forty hour time span doesn't always lead to the best display of soccer, and teams come away pretty beat up.

While watching yesterdays DA game between PAC and PF, you have to admire the grit that PAC shows, especially in their midfield. PF did catch a couple crossbars and the PAC keepers were kept very active, especially in the second half. Nice thing about that group of parents on both sides was that you never heard any coaching from the sidelines. Although the sideline refs gave everyone a few moments of head scratching.
Would love to catch a PDA Sky Blue game sometime, as I can imaging they must be fun to watch.
RP

Anonymous said...

So 1;18 you must be one of the ex PL or PAC parents?
PDA destroyed Saturday I hear...

Anonymous said...

First off, PF is a good team no doubt. PAC has shown after playing them 3 times that they are able to give PF a competitive game and make them work. PDA on the other hand is just too good!

PAC parent

Anonymous said...

PF is 1-1-1 with PDA this season.

Anonymous said...

1:25 You are correct. I am a former PL parent, and root for all the former PL players everywhere. Was on the PF side in the first half, PAC side in the second.

Anonymous said...

Let's talk Jeff Cup

Anonymous said...

You must have missed it. The results for the first five groups were already posted two days ago. More of a lock that Seth the Soothsayer could have ever predicted.

Anonymous said...

Ok, so let's talk underdogs

Anonymous said...

Hard to pick an underdog in the first bracket. Mclean is just so dominant. But for fun I'll pick FC Bucks.
Elite bracket underdog I'll take Loudun, with Rage a close second. But I still think SUSA is the obvious choice to win it.
The next three brackets are the really tough picks. What do you got??

Anonymous said...

@5:10
Catching up on this blog from the last few weeks and was fun to figure out who you probably are :) Your daughter is a great player!
Great job in Vegas and good luck at JC.

former PAC parent...

Anonymous said...

How accurate would it be if you used Youth Soccer Rankings USA to predict the outcomes.

Anonymous said...

YSR tells you how accurate it would be on the right hand side - 62.6%

You could make it more accurate if you were to include other factors.
- home vs away
- league vs tournament

Anonymous said...

Thanks 8:17 and isn't great to see all those former PL players doing so well? We often wonder what could have been if they could have stayed together?
8:24 Youth Soccer Ranking gives us a great tool to measure by, but 9:32 nailed it when he added the variables. Rage is listed #134 by YSR and I think they just beat the YSR #36 team in Las Vegas. There was constant 20 to 30 mph winds in Vegas at the fields, so ball had to stay short and on the ground to be effective. In addition, playing four games in a 40 hour time period takes its toll, so who knows how the outcome would be if it was just a one game setting.
I do like using Gotsoccer also, not for the rankings, but for the ability to see how teams played against common opponents.
Rage Parent

Anonymous said...

Lets talk Jeff Cup -

OK - pretty screwed up flighting at U17....

Anonymous said...

Will college coaches still be watching those "screwed up flights"??

Anonymous said...

Yes they will still be watching. So 10:44, which flight you think Jeff got wrong? There are some teams in groups that they are much better than. But the top couple seem pretty competitive.

Anonymous said...

I think many of the NPL teams are flighted a bit low.

PDA-named and some other big names seem to get flighted higher, without the history.

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Anonymous said...

3:18 PDA being who they are have kind of earned that right, especially when your putting that many teams into a tournament. It does seem like NPL teams have kind of taken an undeserved "hit" it some of the tournament placements this year. It's almost like the addition of the DA has affected their status too.

Anonymous said...

Did someone say lists? Rage in Vegas should have gone 2-1-1 instead they went 3-0-1.
Not bad YSR and good job Rage.

36.22 READING RAGE SC MORGAN
36.27 (2:0) FC BOULDER 01 GIRLS ELITE (CO)
35.86 (4:1) REAL SO CAL-SCV G2001 WHITE (CAS)
34.84 (1:1) ARSENAL FC ECNL - GLENN (CAS)
37:30 (1:0) SLAMMERS FC ECNL U17 (CAS)

Now onto the Jeff Cup

Championship
------ MCLEAN 01G ECNL (VA) 38.78
-1.28 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 01 (MD) 37.50
-1.46 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U17 AP (MA) 37.32
-1.48 SUSA NPL G01 (NYE) 37.30
-1.69 PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL (NJ) 37.09
-1.74 FC BUCKS 01 ECNL (PAE) 37.04
-1.81 BC UNITED SA 2001 PREMIER (NYW) 36.97
-1.82 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL 01 (VA) 36.96
-1.03 PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) (MD) 36.85
-2.02 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 36.76
-2.68 MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN) 36.10
-2.69 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 36.09

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup delayed. Cancelled. Changed. Getting snow? Any insider tips?

Anonymous said...

Finished up some more. I agree I think Jeff Cup dropped he ball - No problem with Championship. I think they have 19 teams higher than they should be.

Elite
------ FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL) 37.77
-0.90 AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL (AZ) 36.87
-0.90 CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC) 36.87
-1.00 SJEB RUSH 01G ACADEMY (NJ) 36.77
-1.40 WORLD CLASS FC 01 ECNL (NYE) 36.37
-1.52 CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (ON) 36.25
-1.55 READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE) 36.22
-1.60 MARYLAND UNITED FC 2001 ECNL (MD) 36.17
-1.68 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 36.09
-1.88 SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 35.89
-1.95 SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 35.82
-1.98 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA) 35.79
-2.05 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC) 35.72
-2.30 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) 35.47
-2.37 LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA) 35.39
-2.46 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 35.31

Superior Orange
------ FLORIDA KRUSH BLACK 01 (FL) 36.85
-0.32 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ) 36.53
-0.33 COLLIERVILLE SOCCER 01 LADY LOBOS RUSH BLUE (TN) 36.52
-0.51 WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON) 36.34
-0.51 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL (NJ) 36.02
-0.94 SANTA MONICA UNITED 01G (CAS) 35.91
-0.97 CENTURY 01 GOLD (PAW) 35.88
-1.24 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA) 35.61
-1.41 ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA) 35.44
-1.41 SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 35.44
-1.87 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) 34.98
-1.99 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) 34.86

Superior Black
------ FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT) 36.56
-0.13 FURY ATHLETICA (WV) 36.43
-0.33 DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC) 36.23
-0.41 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES (NJ) 36.15
-0.52 VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA) 36.04
-0.63 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 01G (PAE) 35.93
-0.77 EAST MEADOW 2001 ECNL DASH (NYE) 35.79
-0.86 BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW) 35.70
-0.99 PDA FUSION (NJ) 35.57
-1.13 PSA WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ) 35.43
-1.31 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 35.25
-1.50 NCFC 01G ELITE (NC) 35.06

Platinum Orange
------ LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE) 35.93
-0.08 BURLINGTON SC BAYHAWKS G01-OPDL (CND:ON) 35.85
-0.08 WILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS FC LADIES WHITE (NC) 35.85
-0.39 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD) 35.54
-0.63 PDA SOUTH SPURS '01 (NJ) 35.30
-0.70 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01G (VA) 35.23
-0.70 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 2001 (NH) 35.23
-0.85 STA 2001G NPL (NJ) 35.08
-0.92 SUNRISE STING 2001 BLACK (FL) 35.01
-0.95 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE) 34.98
-1.19 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 2001 (FL) 34.74
-1.21 NEW YORK SURF G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE) 34.72

Platinum Black
------ FC STARS NPL 01 (MA) 36.21
------ PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ) 36.21
-0.32 USA/MOUNT PLEASANT 01 PREMIER I (SC) 35.89
-0.46 CDA SLAMMERS FC G01 NICHOLS (CAS) 35.75
-0.49 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS) 35.72
-0.61 NEFC BBA 2001 NPL (MA) 35.60
-1.02 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 2001 NE NPL (NJ) 35.19
-1.05 HFC READY 2001 (PAE) 35.16
-1.13 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD) 35.08
-1.49 INTER ATLANTA FC 01G ELITE (GA) 34.72
-1.51 WESTSIDE BREAKERS 01 ELITE (CAS) 34.70
-1.55 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL 01 (CT)34.66
-1.64 PDA HORNETS 01 (NJ) 34.57
-1.74 FLORIDA FIRE JUNIORS 2001 GIRLS PREMIER (FL) 34.47
-2.06 SOCA ELITE 01 U17 GIRLS (VA) 34.15
-2.29 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT) 33.92

Anonymous said...

Calling for 1-3 inches in Richmond Virginia, so I think the show will go on. Someone posted about NPL teams being slighted by Jeff in the brackets.
Mr. List- Thanks for putting that out there, now lets see if perception equals reality in regards to Jeff Cup brackets. Also, is it just me or does it seem like there are more Canadian teams in the tournaments now?

Anonymous said...

My adjustments - much more even flights in my oppinion. YSR lookslike it would have worked great.

Adjusted Elite
------ FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL) 37.77
-0.90 AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL (AZ) 36.87
-0.90 CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC) 36.87
-1.00 SJEB RUSH 01G ACADEMY (NJ) 36.77
-1.40 WORLD CLASS FC 01 ECNL (NYE) 36.37
-1.52 CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (ON) 36.25
-1.55 READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE) 36.22
-1.60 MARYLAND UNITED FC 2001 ECNL (MD) 36.17
-1.68 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 36.09
-1.21 FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT) 36.56
-1.24 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ) 36.53
-1.25 COLLIERVILLE SOCCER 01 LADY LOBOS RUSH BLUE (TN) 36.52
-1.34 FURY ATHLETICA (WV) 36.43
-1.42 WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON) 36.34
-1.53 DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC) 36.23
-1.55 PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ) 36.21

Adjsuted Superior Orange
------ FC STARS NPL 01 (MA) 36.21
-0.06 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES (NJ) 36.15
-0.17 VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA) 36.04
-0.19 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL (NJ) 36.02
-0.28 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 01G (PAE) 35.93
-0.28 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE) 35.93
-0.30 SANTA MONICA UNITED 01G (CAS) 35.91
-0.32 SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 35.89
-0.32 USA/MOUNT PLEASANT 01 PREMIER I (SC) 35.89
-0.33 CENTURY 01 GOLD (PAW) 35.88
-0.36 BURLINGTON SC BAYHAWKS G01-OPDL (CND:ON) 35.85
-0.36 WILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS FC LADIES WHITE (NC) 35.85

Adjsuted Superior Black
------ SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 35.82
-0.03 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA) 35.79
-0.03 EAST MEADOW 2001 ECNL DASH (NYE) 35.79
-0.07 CDA SLAMMERS FC G01 NICHOLS (CAS) 35.75
-0.10 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC) 35.72
-0.10 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS) 35.72
-0.12 BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW) 35.70
-0.21 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA) 35.61
-0.22 NEFC BBA 2001 NPL (MA) 35.60
-0.25 PDA FUSION (NJ) 35.57
-0.28 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD) 35.54
-0.35 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) 35.47

Adjsuted Platinum Orange
------ ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA) 35.44
------ SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 35.44
-0.01 PSA WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ) 35.43
-0.05 LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA) 35.39
-0.13 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 35.31
-0.14 PDA SOUTH SPURS '01 (NJ) 35.30
-0.19 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 35.25
-0.21 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01G (VA) 35.23
-0.21 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 2001 (NH) 35.23
-0.23 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 2001 NE NPL (NJ) 35.19
-0.26 HFC READY 2001 (PAE) 35.16
-0.34 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD) 35.08

Adjsuted Platinum Black
------ STA 2001G NPL (NJ) 35.08
-0.02 NCFC 01G ELITE (NC) 35.06
-0.05 SUNRISE STING 2001 BLACK (FL) 35.01
-0.08 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) 34.98
-0.08 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE) 34.98
-0.20 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) 34.86
-0.32 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 2001 (FL) 34.74
-0.34 NEW YORK SURF G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE) 34.72
-0.34 INTER ATLANTA FC 01G ELITE (GA) 34.72
-0.36 WESTSIDE BREAKERS 01 ELITE (CAS) 34.70
-0.40 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL 01 (CT)34.66
-0.49 PDA HORNETS 01 (NJ) 34.57
-0.59 FLORIDA FIRE JUNIORS 2001 GIRLS PREMIER (FL) 34.47
-0.91 SOCA ELITE 01 U17 GIRLS (VA) 34.15
-1.16 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT) 33.92

Anonymous said...

You were close to being right Mr. List, but sometime intuition and good old fashion research wins out.

CHAMPIONSHIP
1. MCLEAN 01 ECNL
2. SOUTH SHORE
3. FC BUCKS
4. SUSA NPL
HARD NOT TO PICK MCLEAN FOR THIS BACKET

ELITE
1. AZ ARSENAL TEAL
2. WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK
3. RAGE UNITED MORGAN
4. FLORIDA PREDATORS
Woolwich Wolfpack could win this bracket. Wasn't sure about putting Rage even in the top four, but they have placed 3rd or better in almost every tournament they are in. Wildcard is Maryland United.
More excellent selections to follow




Anonymous said...

10:36 keep in mind the schedules since they are not balanced.

I just hope the games are good and all the teams can show well in front of the college coaches for the kids to get some interest!

My fear is that the below teams are way to high and might not be in an ideal flight to showcase their players. I hope I am wrong and they do well (which will improve their YSR score or it can take a huge hit if the games are not close)

-1.87 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) 34.98
-1.95 SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 35.82
-1.98 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA) 35.79
-1.99 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) 34.86
-2.05 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC) 35.72
-2.30 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) 35.47
-2.37 LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA) 35.39
-2.46 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 35.31

Looking forward to more breakdowns.

Anonymous said...

2018 Region I Eastern Regional League Elite (4 teams qualify for national league)

0 SCS UNITED ELITE
2 FC FREDERICK '01

3 PDA FUSION
0 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL

0 ARLINGTON 2001 GIRLS RED
1 PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS)

Anonymous said...

11:50 I think Charlotte, Loudoun Red and BRYC will be okay as they are more defensive minded and will keep the game close. New York Surf could take some lumps

Anonymous said...

NYCSL NPL 2017-2018 (league champion advances to CO)

1 New York SC NPL-01
4 Massapequa NPL-01

1 Quickstrike NPL-01
4 STA NPL-01

Anonymous said...

EDP - NPL Division 2017-2018 (league champion advances to CO)

0 DELAWARE FOOTBALL DEFC 01 GIRLS
2 BETHESDA SC STORM 01

3 SAC PREMIER BLUE
0 DELAWARE FOOTBALL DEFC 01 GIRLS

6 SAC PREMIER BLUE
2 MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G NPL

0 MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G NPL
3 SAC PREMIER BLUE

Anonymous said...

NPL Northeast Girls 2017-2018 (league champion advances to CO)

0 PDA North 01 NPL
1 FC Bucks 01 NPL

1 Albertson Fury 01 NPL
2 East Meadow SC 01 NPL

0 Continental FC 01 NPL
2 East Meadow SC 01 NPL

0 Continental FC 01 NPL
3 World Class FC 01 NPL

0 Continental FC 01 NPL
5 FC Bucks 01 NPL

0 Albertson Fury 01 NPL
4 PDA South 01 NPL

2 World Class FC 01 NPL
0 Albertson Fury 01 NPL

Anonymous said...

2018 Girls NPL Finals 17-U (2001) girls

Qualified:
FC Virginia (Va.; Virginia NPL)
Sockers FC Chicago (Ill.; NISL)
Sporting Omaha FC (Neb.; Central States NPL)

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup starting to cancel flights. U17 Premier flight cancelled so far, along with many of the U18 Flights

Anonymous said...

Aren’t they turf fields?

Anonymous said...

Not all and the email from Jeff officials stated fields would be to wet to play. It's a real shame for the U18's that are all getting cancelled. For some of those girls, it's their last real chance to be seen. They said they would be posting a revised schedule out tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

This happened a few years ago. They had to scramble for fields. Some were over an hour away from the original location. It was a mess. Coaches could not travel all over to see the kids. I agree about the older kids though; the ones graduating. They can't wait until May to get more info. PDA won't take everyone and it may be too late to play for a college in August.

Anonymous said...

PDA Spring event and Memorial Day tourney.

Anonymous said...

The real shame is that the PAC DA game against Cedar Stars will most likely be canceled. PAC DA teams could use a little boost right now, especially after giving up 33 goals and scoring none against PDA and PF last weekend. It's almost criminal to have to play the two best teams back to back on one weekend. PAC can rebound in the next four weeks though, with games against opponents they can handle.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand. I looked on AccuWeather.com and they are saying little to no accumulation in Richmond.

Anonymous said...

5/20/2017 compared to 3/21/2018
The GDA impact + or- YSR scores for non GDA teams
Only teams listed in that post

+0.88 (36.80) UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)
+0.70 (37.31) SUSA FC NPL (NYE)
+0.66 (36.21) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ)
+0.66 (36.90) PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)
+0.65 (35.87) CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD (PAW)
+0.62 (37.31) SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA)
+0.59 (36.42) FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV)
+0.56 (36.16) WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ)
+0.52 (36.09) FC FREDERICK (MD)
+0.52 (36.58) FSA FC ECNL (CT)
+0.49 (36.23) READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE)
+0.45 (36.98) RICHMOND UNITED ECNL (VA)
+0.38 (37.00) CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)
+0.35 (36.65) FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA)
+0.32 (37.53) BETHESDA SC ECNL (MD)
+0.32 (36.21) FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA)
+0.31 (35.72) BEADLING SC ELITE (PAW)
+0.23 (36.95) GREATER BINGHAMTON FC SELECT (NYW)
+0.22 (36.40) WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE)
+0.21 (36.59) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)
+0.19 (35.93) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE)
+0.13 (35.60) NEFC BREAKERS NPL (MA)
+0.12 (35.47) NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM NPL (NJ)
+0.11 (35.44) SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE (NJ)
+0.08 (36.03) NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)
+0.04 (37.07) FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE)
+0.03 (35.89) SUSA FC ELITE (NYE)
-0.02 (38.89) FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)
-0.14 (35.16) HARLEYSVILLE FC READY (PAE)
-0.18 (35.74) BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)
-0.22 (36.78) SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)
-0.23 (35.96) CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE)
-0.24 (36.12) ALBERTSON SC ECNL (NYE)
-0.28 (35.60) VIRGINIA BEACH TRAVEL FC RED (VA)
-0.32 (35.01) NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE (NYE)
-0.39 (34.97) WORLD CLASS FC NPL (NYE)
-0.42 (38.80) MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)
-0.46 (36.19) MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD)
-0.49 (37.11) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ)
-0.50 (35.20) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTHEAST NPL (NJ)
-0.52 (35.44) ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)
-0.57 (34.96) GPS MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA)
-0.65 (34.73) NEW YORK SURF SC LI (NYE)
-0.86 (34.58) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NORTH NPL (NJ)
-1.09 (35.44) PRINCETON SA NPL (NJ)

Anonymous said...

It was a tough opening weekend having to play both PDA and PF but the girls know they gave PF a run for their money and that is a boost in itself.

Anonymous said...

9:10 The trouble I have with YSR is there are to many variable to accurately come up with any computations. The top 30 teams in the YSR no doubt belong there, but after that the numbers become inconclusive.
9:13 Absolutely and the U17 team fought well. At some point, they will have to figure out what their doing at the U19 level. They are getting crushed.

Anonymous said...

8:25

Yet they cut some divisions. Has to be some feeling some fields have been compromised.

Anonymous said...

9:58 the reason I like YSR.

1. All team results that are available in one area.

2. The team score is dynamic - it changes as the team plays more games and as the teams they played play more games.

3. Is it perfect no? VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA) is a 36.04 by beating up on lesser teams. But with this score earned the right to play better teams. If they start to lose by games by 2 or 3 goals their score will be reflected by adjusting to a lower score.

4. Look at PDA North. They have 3 teams YSR shows that over the last 15 months PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) had their score drop by -0.49 and PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NORTH NPL (NJ) dropped by -0.86 with the addition of PDA Sky Blue.

5. it shows PRINCETON SA NPL (NJ), something happened with this team since their score dropped -1.09. They lost players or are playing better teams?

6. SUSA NPL, Premier SC, 1776, NJ Elite, Rages among the hottest teams in the Region over the last 15 months. Either they added more players, are playing better, or the teams they are playing lost players to GDA teams and they are now the Big Fish?

Is it perfect No, nothing is when it comes to youth sports. But it gives you an idea - not the rank but the score - what a game might look like.

If 1776 (36.80) played Rage (36.23) = a win for 1776 in what can be a close game since the difference is 0.57.

If McClean (38.80) played Richmond (36.98) = an easy win for McClean since they favorite by 1.82

If PDA ECNL (37.11) played MF ECNL (36.59) = a PDA win in another close game 0.52. The closer the difference is to zero the more of a coin flip is the game.

YSR shows you who the top teams are and how huge the pool of teams is for the next tier. What variables don't they measure?

Anonymous said...

By using the scores as one of it's measuring sticks, it is also one of it's greatest issues. There are teams that simply win and games stay relatively close because of the coaches effort of playing everybody max amount of minutes. This is especially true in showcase situations, where players need to be seen.
Since you used 1776 and Rage as an example, I'd say that Rage scores have been nowhere near what YSR ranking would predicts and probably have been up and down both ways. 1776 has been playing great, but lost 4-0 to the Florida Predators and that is way off the YSR mark. It will be interesting to see how YSR plays out at Jeff, especially in the 2nd and 3rd brackets. I'm not totally debunking YSR results, but they work better at younger U13-U15 groups where there's little or no college coaches on the sidelines.

Anonymous said...

One of my example was Mclean vs Richomnd. if we look at the Sep 23, 2017 game YSR looked like it sucks. RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL won 3-1. However, if we look at the other 3 games - not even close.

RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL 6 - 0
RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL 5 - 0
RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL 4 - 0

teams are allowed an off day, YSR said McClean is a 1.82 favorite vs Richmond in 3 of the 4 games they played that was true.

Now onto Rage. Rage is a 36.23 so YSR is saying a coin flip game with any team that has a score between 36.73 and 35.73 (That's 25 region 1 Teams where the game can go either way).

vs teams with a score greater than 36.73, Rage won 0, tied 1 and lost
vs teams with a score less than 35.73, Rage won 30, tied 7 and lost 4
Note Vegas games are not listed. I would say Rage is exactly what their score said they are.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to conclude that if all things stay the same. Teams change. They pick up different players, players are still developing, injuries. ..... So I agree it's a good measuring stick but I wouldn't bet the house on it.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't bet the house on it either since it's Girl's youth soccer and there is a lot that goes into every game. BUT it is the best tool out there.

YSR Jeff Cup Championship/Elite flight Prediction
W = greater than +0.51
T = between +0.50 and -0.50 (game can go either way)
L = greater than -0.51
Any team above the line can win the flight

W | T | L | GD |

Championship
3 | 0 | 0 |+4.87|MCLEAN 01G ECNL (VA) 38.78
2 | 1 | 0 |+2.01| BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 01 (MD) 37.50
1 | 2 | 0 |+0.47| FC BUCKS 01 ECNL (PAE) 37.04
0 | 3 | 0 |+0.36|PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL (NJ) 37.09
0 | 3 | 0 |-0.15|RICHMOND UNITED ECNL 01 (VA) 36.96
1 | 2 | 0 |+0.14| 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 36.76
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 | 1 | 1 |+0.36| BC UNITED SA 2001 PREMIER (NYW) 36.97
0 | 2 | 1 |-0.93|SUSA NPL G01 (NYE) 37.30
0 | 2 | 1 |-1.36|SOUTH SHORE SELECT U17 AP (MA) 37.32
0 | 2 | 1 |-2.36|PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) (MD) 36.85
0 | 1 | 2 |-1.56| ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 36.09
0 | 1 | 2 |-2.33|MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN) 36.10

Elite
2 | 1 | 0 |+3.94| FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL) 37.17
3 | 0 | 0 |+2.35| CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC) 36.87
2 | 1 | 0 |+2.05| SJEB RUSH 01G ACADEMY (NJ) 36.77
2 | 1 | 0 |+1.74| AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL (AZ) 36.87
1 | 2 | 0 |+1.07| FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 36.09
1 | 2 | 0 |-0.45| WORLD CLASS FC 01 ECNL (NYE) 36.37
0 | 3 | 0 |-0.57| SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 35.89
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 | 2 | 1 |-0.13| CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (ON) 36.25
0 | 2 | 1 |-0.19| READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE) 36.22
0 | 2 | 1 |-0.45| MARYLAND UNITED FC 2001 ECNL (MD) 36.17
0 | 2 | 1 |-1.47| NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) 35.47
0 | 2 | 1 |-1.67| SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 35.84
0 | 2 | 1 |-1.97| BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA) 35.79
0 | 1 | 2 |-2.15| CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC) 35.72
0 | 1 | 2 |-3.18| LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA) 35.39
0 | 1 | 2 |-3.50| FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 35.31

Anonymous said...

Just to test out those YSR results
Las Vegas Scores
Rage United 2 FC Boulder 01 Elite -0
Rage United 4 Real SO CAL-SCV 01 White -1
Rage United 1 Arsenal FC ECNL-Glenn -1
Rage United 1 Slammers FC ECNL U17 -0

South Shore 2 Real SO CAL G01 DPL -0
South Shore 3 West Coast FC ECNL -0
South Shore 1 Strikers ECNL 01 -1
South Shore 1 Surf Hawaii 01 Academy -0

Anonymous said...

W | T | L | GD | YSR Prediction
0 | 3 | 1 |-1.11| READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE) 36.22
3 | 1 | 0 |+4.31| SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) 37.32

Actual Las Vegas Scores
Rage United 2 FC Boulder 01 Elite (36.28) -0
Rage United 4 Real SO CAL-SCV 01 White (35.87) -1
Rage United 1 Arsenal FC ECNL-Glenn (36.49)-1
Rage United 1 Slammers FC ECNL U17 (37.35) -0

South Shore 2 Real SO CAL G01 DPL (35.75) -0
South Shore 3 West Coast FC ECNL( 36.04) -0
South Shore 1 Strikers ECNL 01 (36.04) -1
South Shore 1 Surf Hawaii 01 Academy (37.12) -0

YSR predicted that Rage could win 3 of their 4 games. Rage actually won 3 of their 4 games. YSR predicted Rage would lose 1, Rage didn't lose a game but they did tie 1. YSR gets a PASS for Rage.

YSR predicted that SSS would win 3 games or might win all of their 4 games. SSS actually won all 4 games. YSR gets a PASS for SSS.

Anonymous said...

8 LV games

3 straight up wins - All Correct
1 straight up loss - wrong
4 coin flip games that can be a win,tie or a loss

Anonymous said...

South Shore didn't win all four, they also had a tie. Although can see your a believer in what your posting and you have to admire your devotion to it. I would just as quickly see what a ground hog says. If Jeff Cup proves true to your YSR beliefs, I'll be the first to say I'm wrong. Good luck at Jeff and have a safe trip down and back.

Anonymous said...

Rainman let the lists go. there are enough toothpicks in the box for your cheeseballs.

Anonymous said...

You have to admire his devotion to his list and YSR though, and I bet he's an excellent driver. In other news, make sure your daughter's update coaches on where they'll playing at Jeff. I know our team has had our times and fields changed for both Saturday and Sunday. Talked to a college coach earlier in the day and he said it is now officially a mess.

Anonymous said...

Rainman puts too much trust into YSR. Not accurate. Have seen instances where teams have multiple listings because for a few tourneys they use their full club/team name; another tourney may have a truncated one and then same elsewhere.

And have seen instances where combined GDA, ECNL, NPL and Pre-DA results are posted in some teams.

Great idea though.

Anonymous said...

8:17 - hahaha so only now it's officially a mess? when USSF added another league which is not competing, then it officially became a mess.

Anonymous said...

9:22 your right of course, but that's a whole different kind of mess. Like the train that won't slow down even when it gets to the station, parents just are not to sure how to jump off and at what station. The trick is to jump off and be able to say "this is where I planned to be all along".

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Anonymous said...

YSR is not a crystal ball, but it is the best thing out there. The whole idea that difference between teams can be under a point indicates probability not conclusiveness. YSR really fails when it comes to unique match up issues. If the star striker didn't get enough sleep last night and happens to be lined up on the star left back, that difference alone could make up for the statistical difference between the teams on that day. But that is why YSR is so great -- those small differences should give hope to teams and stoke competitiveness -- you can beat the odds if you have that little extra push on one day -- you could be 100 and beat a 25 on any given day. I think that is what is cool about it.

Anonymous said...

STA had a win over Beach at Bethesda and a 1-0 loss to 1776 there. A win and two draws at Disney and won their group at CASL. Now they have two wins at the Jeff Cup and a chance to win their flight tomorrow. Not playing in the top flights for the most part, but they've been a tough team to beat regardless. Maybe a bit better than most seem to think?

Anonymous said...

I'll have to admit, my predictions for Jeff were not as good as I hoped. Managed to watch the team from Arizona play yesterday in what was a pretty even game. Arizona with some big girls that can wear teams down, but if it wasn't for some terrific saves by their keeper, that game could have ended in a loss for them. Real surprise was South Shore and Mclean ending in a draw, then 1776 hanging in there in what looked like it would be a tie, but losing in the last few minutes of their second game.
Good job by the Wildcats and good luck today girls as they are representing NJ well. BRYC played well yesterday, only to fall to a late goal. With such an unbalanced scheduled, I think I'll have to admit that YSR GUY...AKA..Mr. List was right about YSR as the only way to reference possible outcomes. Safe drive home everyone.

Anonymous said...

When looking for numbers to predict outcomes, YSR clearly offers the best approach to this. Doesn't matter that a team plays more competitions to offer themselves more "points" ops. GS has been good for youth soccer but their ranking methodology is dramatically flawed. And while YSR is far from perfect, it's a much fairer (and reliable) way to compare results.

YSR almost closed shop when the age change came into effect. So I'm really glad they managed to keep it going!

Anonymous said...

Congrats to all the girls that showed well and played hard at Jeff this weekend. Lots of coaches there and hopefully a couple looked out your daughter and said "I need that player". So many great players and you have to wonder how these coaches make their selections.
RP

Anonymous said...

Interesting bit of info I’ve been tracking for a while now for tournies and some leagues and it’s holdong pretty true to the percentage. If a team gives up 2 goals in a game, there is only a 6-8% chance of still winning the game.

If a team gives up 1 goal in a game the average increases to 25-33% for your chances to win the game.

I wonder how that holds true through college soccer stats, and if it goes along those same lines, wouldn’t it be best as a recruiter to find players that can work well within a system that defend well and then go at teams when they get the ball? (Like Bayern used to play before they learned to play Spanish soccer)

Great weekend at Jeff cup, lots of coaches scrambling around with the schedule change, and lots of great soccer for all to see

Anonymous said...

Just echoing the Jeff Cup sentiments from the previous couple of posters. A shame for those who got cancelled at the last minute but a very good weekend for those who got to play. Lots of coaches and plenty of good soccer. Saw one of the most exciting games I've seen in a long time today!

Anonymous said...

10:14 You bring up and interesting point. The field we (Rage) played on Sunday was right next to 1776, as both games started at the same time. You couldn't ask for more of a contrast in styles of play and you might think that a college coach would look at the players that would fit his style. Of course I could be totally wrong and maybe they only look at the skill level and athleticism of a certain player.
Hats off to 1776 as they only had 11 players available and still dominated the game they were in. It was also nice to see both sides rooting for each other during the games.
As 11:17 mentioned, there was a lot of coaches there, even on Sunday which is kind of rare.
RP

Anonymous said...

Props to Rage. If you look at who they have played in the last year (a lot of YSR 35s and 34s and below), they have done well but they really haven't been tested against the stronger teams. At Jeff Cup, they played some very strong teams and fared well. I am sure they would have like to have had less goals against, but they appear to be generating some good offense. This was not a team of note a couple of years ago but now are a team that seem to have momentum.

On the other hand I am surprised at how PDA Splash has struggled. To be sure, they have had a much tougher schedule than Rage, but really have a tough time generating goals. Like FC Bucks, they have been sputtering along and I wonder how much of this can be attributed to losing top players to DA?

Anonymous said...

12:29 I agree about Rage sorry RP. Nice team, besides beating up on lesser teams - no really WOW result besides a few on the negative side (vs FC Europa a 32 vs a 36 should not have been a 1-0 result regardless of how many missed attempts there may have been).

PDA Splash lost all impact players to USDA team - so PDA splash aka PDA Hornets with some players from other clubs). Still a very nice team regardless of the score adjusting in a negative way.

Below are the new YSR scores after Jeff Cup with + - change
Note: these score changes also impact the teams they played previously by adjusting those teams as well.

I used + - .20 as my marker - last list until next major flights announced (PDA event)

Flighted to low (based on unbalanced schedule)
36.72 [+.51] FC STARS NPL 01 (MA) 36.21
36.95 [+.43] COLLIERVILLE SOCCER 01 LADY LOBOS RUSH BLUE (TN) 36.52
36.54 [+.29] CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (ON) 36.25
36.38 [+.28] MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN) 36.10
37.14 [+.27] AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL (AZ) 36.87
35.96 [+.26] BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW) 35.70
36.80 [+.24] FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT) 36.56
36.40 [+.23] MARYLAND UNITED FC 2001 ECNL (MD) 36.17
36.75 [+.22] MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ) 36.53
35.76 [+.22] HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD) 35.54
36.20 [+.21] FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 36.09
36.03 [+.21] SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 35.82
37.52 [+.20] SOUTH SHORE SELECT U17 AP (MA) 37.32


Flighted to high (based on unbalanced schedule)
35.24 [-.20] SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 35.44
34.52 [-.22] TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 2001 (FL) 34.74
35.35 [-.22] PDA FUSION (NJ) 35.57
36.64 [-.23] CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC) 36.87
36.54 [-.23] SJEB RUSH 01G ACADEMY (NJ) 36.77
34.75 [-.23] NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) 34.98
36.80 [-.24] FC BUCKS 01 ECNL (PAE) 37.04
35.01 [-.24] BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 35.25
36.09 [-.28] WORLD CLASS FC 01 ECNL (NYE) 36.37
35.93 [-.28] PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ) 36.21
34.80 [-.28] SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD) 35.08
33.86 [-.29] SOCA ELITE 01 U17 GIRLS (VA) 34.15
35.01 [-.30] FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 35.31
36.85 [-.32] FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL) 37.17
36.01 [-.33] WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON) 36.34
34.39 [-.33] NEW YORK SURF G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE) 34.72
35.08 [-.35] PSA WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ) 35.43
34.93 [-.37] PDA SOUTH SPURS '01 (NJ) 35.30
35.46 [-.43] USA/MOUNT PLEASANT 01 PREMIER I (SC) 35.89
35.33 [-.55] SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 35.89

Anonymous said...

12:29 Thanks for the props. I think playing 7 games in 10 days finally caught up to the girls, especially the mids and defense that really do a majority of the work. Again though, I seen the enemy and it was ourselves. Sometimes our parents would love to see a nice long punt or some deep over the top balls late in the game, but that's not going to happen.
12:36 Really don't have a good answer for you. Girls have played at Bethesda, Disney, CASL, Vegas and Jeff since turning U17 and have yet to lose a game. All the while they have never been lower than third bracket and twice in the 1st bracket (winning it in Vegas). As far as the 1-0 game against FC Europa, I looked in the US Soccer Rules Handbook and it defines a win as the team that has more goals scored than the opposing team. Last week PF beat PAC 1-0 also, how did that relate to YSR?
I actually like the list you put out and think they have merit, and think they are a good indicator of possible results. That being said, the college coaches that have talked to our players (me and my daughter included) seem to never mention them or the scores of any game. Interesting that you would make an excuse for PDA Splash and losing impact players, but wanted to point out that hitting the crossbar cannot be used for Rage, although I think you are correct that it shouldn't be either.
Did anyone get to see the Arizona team? The 1-0 game they played in was fun to watch and had excellent players on both sides. Big props to those two teams (although I'm not sure where the YSR score would fall there either and maybe I shouldn't be giving props.
RP

Anonymous said...

Why do you deflect? I never said anything bad? Rage beat up on teams with lower scores and played really well vs teams that have a similar score but have not shown a WOW result? What's wrong with that? A 3-0 win vs 1776 would be a WOW result vs a 5-1 win vs HMMS, No? FC Europa has an even lower score than HMMS but the gals managed a 1-0 win only.

Why bring up the college coaches when we are talking YSR and results? PS. some of the greatest games were 0-0 draws agree 100% - I like to prove or disprove posts -

so when 12:29 said "Props to Rage. If you look at who they have played in the last year (a lot of YSR 35s and 34s and below), they have done well but they really haven't been tested against the stronger teams."

I looked that up and validated it using YSR.

12:29 also said "PDA Splash has struggled" "they have been sputtering along and I wonder how much of this can be attributed to losing top players to DA"
I also gave my opinion on this and supported the post with YSR.

River City is where all the coaches were, not saying the other sites didn't have. But if you played at River City chances are you had a ton of coaches and if your field was next to a big draw team you had some of them taking a look and I agree 100% with the coaches not carting about the results. But this us BSing on an anonymous board.

Anonymous said...

The North Carolina DA showcase is where all the coaches will be. Less than 2 weeks away.

Anonymous said...

I feel big name clubs will always be flighted higher. I watched a team dominate with possession and skill and still lost. The college coaches aren't there for the outcome of the games.

Anonymous said...

5:13 - not sure what you are responding to but flighting is usually based on rankings. There is no smaller club than 1776 and they were in top bracket.

As a side note, I wish the format of this blog was response-based so you could at least have a continuous cpnversational string. So often I think there is a lack of understanding because it is so hard to track conversations.

Anonymous said...

Easy 4:41 Not sure what I was deflecting. I'm pretty sure I said we are a good team, not great. I like that you said "if we happen to be next to a team that was a big draw coaches might have seen our girls". That's awesome and hope your daughter does well, because you just kind of showed yourself. You did earlier, but now I know where your from too and I understand you need to self vindicate. Good luck the rest of the season and at the PDA tournament. After all, we are just BSing on an anonymous blog.
RP.

Anonymous said...

7:00am any truth to the rumor that Big Red was screaming at the Rage players to step up their game? Or was it actually an RP?

Anonymous said...

1:35 can you get that soccer rule book to the parents. sounds like you have some groundbreaking stuff there.

Anonymous said...

So how will PDA tourney (the Memorial Day one not the Spring event) fare this year when even it's own top teams will be elsewhere for sat games. will be strange I think.
Is Delco still have their Cup that weekend as well?

Anonymous said...

Stat guy here again, did a little more statting for our age group at Jeff cup

42% chance if you score 3 or more goals (3-2,3-1,3-0)
56% chance if you score 2 goals (2-1, 2-0)
47% chance if you score 1 goal (1-0)

8% chance if you give up 2 goals (3ormore-2)
33% chance if you give up 1 goal (2ormore-1)
48% chance if you give up 0 goals (1ormore-0)

This is going off the base of it is what a team had to do to secure a win. It kind of shows that it doesn't matter what you do offensively, but goals scored against you directly correlate with a huge down slide with your chance to win the game. It also shows that scoring 3 goals or more is less likely than scoring 2 goals through the tourney (percentage drops because 2 goals was more common and the third goal was not needed). Side note that I found interesting is that this pretty much held true through all flights in our age group

Anonymous said...

4:41 Easy what? My deflect comment was about bringing up college coaches and recruitment into a results conversation. Okay you said you were a good team and I said you were a nice team? self vindicate? okay if that makes you feel better. I will post PDA list once flights are out.

Moving on to league play with the very important AZ event for many

ECNL Champions League Qualifiers
1 Mustang SC ECNL U17 3.00
2 So Cal Blues SC ECNL U17 2.83
3 Florida Elite SA ECNL U17 2.78
4 Ohio Elite SA ECNL U17 2.60
5 Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U17 2.57
6 Davis Legacy ECNL U17 2.55
7 McLean YSA ECNL U17 2.53
8 Washington Premier ECNL U17 2.50
9 SLSG-MO ECNL U17 2.48
10 Tennessee SC ECNL U17 2.42
11 Solar SC ECNL U17 2.32
12 Alabama FC ECNL U17 2.23
13 Vardar ECNL U17 2.22
14 Heat FC ECNL U17 2.20
15 Sting Dallas ECNL U17 2.14
16 TSC Hurricane ECNL U17 2.09
17 Minnesota Thunder Academy ECNL U17 2.00
18 Crossfire United ECNL U17 2.00
19 Bethesda SC ECNL U17 2.00
20 FC Pride ECNL U17 1.92
21 Elite Girls Academy U17 1.87
22 Slammers FC ECNL U17 1.82
23 FC Nova ECNL U17 1.79
24 Ohio Premier ECNL U17 1.75
25 Richmond United ECNL U17 1.70
26 Florida Krush ECNL U17 1.69
27 Challenge SC ECNL U17 1.63
28 Maryland United ECNL U17 1.50
29 NTH-TopHat ECNL U17 1.50
30 FC Bucks ECNL U17 1.40
31 East Meadow SC ECNL U17 1.20
32 PDA ECNL U17 1.14

Anonymous said...

Also some regional leagues will wrap up that weekend also with U18 national league spots on the line.

Far West Regional League Desert Premier League (1 spot)
1: FC BOULDER 01 GIRLS ELITE 13 points - 1 game remaining vs 8th
2: HEAT FC 01 NM NATIONAL 11 points - 1 game remaining vs 7th
3: AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL 10 - 1 game remaining vs 6th

Far West Regional League CRL Premier League (1 spot)
1. Rebels Soccer Club - G01 Elite 18 points - 3 games remain
2. SGV Surf G01 SB/HH 15 points - 4 games remain
3. Real So Cal-SCV - G 2001 W 13 points - 4 games remain
4. Legends FC G01 Academy II 9 points - 4 games remain

Far West Regional League CalNorth Premier Leagues (1 spot)
1. USA STARS ACADEMY USA STARS 01G 18 points - 1 game remaining vs 5th
2. SANTA CLARA SPORTING 01G GREEN 15 points - 1 games remaining vs 7th

Far West Regional League Northwest Division (1 spot)
1. PacNW 01 Maroon (WA)

SRPL East Sub-Region (1 spot)
1. CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR

SRPL West Sub-Region (1 spot)
1. LONESTAR SC LONESTAR 01G RED

SRPL Central Sub-Region (1 spot)
1. COLLIERVILLE SOCCER 01 LADY LOBOS RUSH BLUE

SRPL (1 spot)

Midwest Regional League Fall (2 spots)
1. FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
2. North Shore United 01 Blue (WI)

Midwest Regional League Spring (2 spots)

Eastern Regional League (4 spots)

National League Qualifiuers
1. FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO) [OPEN]
2. PacNW 01 Maroon (WA) [OPEN]

3. Arizona Arsenal Teal (AZ)
4. Sting East Dunstan (TX-N)
5. BC United 01 (NY-W)
6. Nationals Union 01 Red (MI)
7. TFA Elite 01 (OH-S)
8. Celtic FC Premier SA (UT)
9. Legends FC 01 Academy II (CA-S)
10. Premier Navy 2001 (MD)
11. Rebels 2001 Elite (CA-S)
12. FC Florida 2001 Elite Blue Predators (FL)

Anonymous said...

8:01 Love it Stat guy - not to be confused with Mr list. I was going to do the same thing for Jeff Cup - got side tracked.

Anonymous said...

You can list stats all you want, when you have a strong defense, being bombarded by scoring opportunities by very good teams, it's not fair to put even more weight on them. Having an offense that can't score goals, creates a defense which can't afford to make one single mistake. That's not fair. Things have to happen at both ends of the field. A good defense can only withstand so much. Without the opposite end of the field doing its job, you end up with a 0-0 tie or a loss, unless you have a midfield that steps up to the plate and puts some points on the board. It's a team sport. Everyone should being doing their jobs, at this level. If they can't, try a new position. Every player should be contributing something, depending on where they are on the field.

Anonymous said...

7:16 That is total truth. Big Red, or Mother Teresa as we at Rage affectionately call her, came over at our request to inspire the girls. I know she is totally over the top and she know it too, but away from the game she has the ability to laugh at herself and what faults she may have. It's more than some of us can do or are willing to. In addition, her kid are great players coached by and excellent coach.
On a side note, both times she came over and yelled at our Rage players (they were cracking up), we scored. So maybe there's something to it.

8:01 Of all the stats that are put out on here. I like those ones the best. Very similar to baseball and the percentage of games won when giving up 3 runs or less. Good Stuff.
Rage Parent

Anonymous said...

10:31 Well said and very true. But in the end it all comes down to is the player comfortable playing where they are at and in the system their in.

Anonymous said...

Players are going to take the field where ever the coach puts them just to get playing time. Should they be on the field is the big question. Some kids are really good in practice against kids they know and shrink on the field in games. How do you coach that?
While the score are meaningless, as most on here post anyway, everything as far as league play says otherwise. Wins matter.

Anonymous said...

10:31 - you are assuming that only a couple players are playing defense. A defensive system is 11 players, playing in that system, including players up top that are a release valve, that can hold the ball, and allow other players to get forward to create a counter.

What’s real fun is when you get both teams scared to open up, and you can watch the chess match on the field of the midfielders trying to get more into an attacking position without giving themselves up defensively.

Anonymous said...

4:24 I like the opposite of that, when both teams are not afraid to open up and are constantly challenging each other. The communication from player to player has to be excellent and because of the energy being used, the bench plays a vital role also. Even games like this can end in a lower score if each team limits quality shot on goal. Back in the U14- U15 days, I use to love watching East Meadow ECNL play. Always thought the transition of all their lines was so complete and that they were very well coached. Whatever happened to that group. We thought we were a good team until we played them.

Anonymous said...

10:31 I agree with some of the other posts, it takes all 11 to score e a goal. A goalie that knows when to punt the ball and when to keep possession. Defenders that are not scared to kick the ball out when under pressure or just up the field. They need to find each other and the midfielders as the ball moves up the filed to the forwards. Same goes on defense the forwards need to back tackle and help the midfielders who are helping the defenders help the goalie. Some teams do this better than others and more times than not they have an entire roster playing in college others not so much and as a result have only a few playing in college. Results are just based on the variables of the day and are just simple to talk about. Did a team win? should they have won? was it an upset or an expected result? Who was rostered? The ref? The field? The weather? So many variables play a role in the result but the result is the result.


Mr List.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is playing EDP this weekend. We've never been there but are making up for canceled tournaments.
Any experience from anyone on this?

Anonymous said...

At least you'll have some decent weather and won't have to wear a winter coat.

Anonymous said...

It's a sod farm so most of the fields are nice but on the small side. Bring a jacket,it's usually windy and cold.

Anonymous said...

Anything other than the weather and the scenery? :)

Anonymous said...

No!

Anonymous said...

4:24 I'm not talking big picture. I'm talking defense when in the defensive third (no matter how the ball got there) as opposed to offense in the offensive third (no matter how the ball got there). In those situations, when you have the defense stopping 95% (conservative) of scoring opportunities (at a high level with only 3 in the back... to give more of an offensive push), with an offense that can't get a shot on goal, even when given opportunities where they're 1v1 with the keepers, can't blame the defense for a loss. Also, when most of your goals are scored by midfielders, maybe it's time to switch up some positions.

Anonymous said...

4:24 Most of the EMSC ECNL are now with the DA program or playing for Albertson ECNL. The old EMSC team folded about 2 years ago.

Anonymous said...

12:27 I agree with some of ur post, but formation and systems out of each formation differ so much. We run a 4-3-3 and our two outside strikers rarely enter the box (weakside does on a cross). The idea is to make the defenders stay wide and let the attacking mids run through. So our mids do a majority of the scoring. Another coach may run the same formation and use it entirely different.

Anonymous said...

12:27

Playing with 3 in the back doesn’t necessarily mean there is less defensive players. In many cases it is more of a defensive formation. In a 3-5-2 you can drop your outside mids and be playing with 5 defenders. You can add your defensive center mids into that mix and you’re now playing with 7 back working defensively. And just as easily, switch it that those players start getting higher up the field, and it allows the extra midfielders to move into created space from off ball movement.

Personally it’s what I love about a 3-5-2, it allows you to play differently depending on how your opponent is trying to play you, without having to change the formation

Anonymous said...

sometimes when some of the defenders are weak, you are better off playing 3 in the back. when you have to babysit your teammate(s) in a tough, tight game, it never works out well.

Anonymous said...

That makes no sense. If your coach went to a 3 back set either the midfield or the forwards aren’t getting the job done. Problem is when the midfielders, especially the weak side wing, become lazy and don’t get back, leaving your back line to defend 5 on 3 over and over. I think that’s what the earlier poster was lamenting, not that a 3 back set is “wrong”, like 3:48 said it can have its advantages, but if your midfields aren’t putting in the hard work, no matter how strong your 3 backs are, they are in a tough situation.

Anonymous said...

6:16 sounds like it time to go to the bench and find a midfielder that will put in "hard work".
7:11 comments to make sense though. With 5 midfielders controlling more of the action, some of the pressure is taken of of the back line. In reality though and when it's in motion, your almost creating a four line formation and it end up being a 3-2-3-2.

Anonymous said...

6:53

It’s a 3-2-3-2 if the outside Mids are staying high, that puts more pressure on the defensive center mode to slide sideways to fill that space, or outside backs to come forward, center mode to drop straight back, and center backs slide to cover the outside backs space.

If the outside mids stay dropped more it becomes a 3-4-1-2

Anonymous said...

With about 10 games left in the U.S. SOCCER DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY season, the post season is starting to shape up

Northeast East Division
37 | 2.32 | +34 | FC Fury NY U-16/17
40 | 2.11 | +26 | New York City FC U-16/17
30 | 1.76 | +21 | Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17
22 | 1.22 | -05 | Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17
17 | 0.94 | -16 | FC Stars U-16/17
13 | 0.81 | -25 | Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17
08 | 0.47 | -46 | Empire United U-16/17
07 | 0.44 | -55 | Long Island SC U-16/17

Atlantic East Division
46 | 2.42 | +43 | Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17
43 | 2.26 | +28 | Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17
31 | 1.72 | +21 | FC Virginia U-16/17
33 | 1.65 | +14 | Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17
11 | 0.73 | -19 | PA Classics U-16/17
13 | 0.72 | -25 | Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17
11 | 0.61 | -37 | Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
09 | 0.50 | -40 |Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17

32 Teams qualify for Playoffs

GIRLS U-16/17 PLAYOFFS POOLS
5 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17
10 FC Fury NY U-16/17
13 Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17
15 New York City FC U-16/17
20 Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17
21 FC Virginia U-16/17

GIRLS U-16/17 WILDCARD POOL
26 Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17
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47 Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17
50 FC Stars U-16/17 East U-16/17
53 Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17
54 PA Classics U-16/17
55 Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17
60 Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
62 Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17
63 Empire United U-16/17
64 Long Island SC U-16/17

Mr List

Anonymous said...

ECNL Mid-Atlantic has wrapped up
37 | 2.64 | +56 | McLean YSA ECNL U17
37 | 2.64 | +22 | Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U17
24 | 1.71 | +11 | Richmond United ECNL U17
19 | 1.36 | -08 | BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17
19 | 1.36 | -08 | Carolina Rapids ECNL U17
13 | 0.93 | -20 | NCFC Youth ECNL U17
10 | 0.71 | -18 | NC Fusion ECNL U17
06 | 0.43 | -35 | South Carolina United ECNL U17

Next year ECNL Mid-Atlantic Newbies?
Virginia Development Academy
Wilmington Hammerheads
Loudon Soccer Club

Champions League Qualifiers (Top 32)
7 McLean YSA ECNL U17
19 Bethesda SC ECNL U17
25 Richmond United ECNL U17
28 Maryland United ECNL U17
30 FC Bucks ECNL U17
32 PDA ECNL U17

North American Cup Qualifiers (Top16)
1 FC Boston ECNL U17
2 World Class ECNL U17
3 FC Stars ECNL U17
14 BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17

Showcase Qualifiers (Top 16)
10 Match Fit Academy U17
12 WNY Flash ECNL U17
14 Continental FC U17
27 Pittsburgh Riverhounds ECNL U17
29 Albertson Fury ECNL U17
31 Connecticut FC ECNL U17
32 FSA ECNL U17

Mr List

Anonymous said...

9:05 But if you can keep those outside mids high and trust the defensive movement to cover, a breakout turns into a serious offensive advantage. But those poor center mids are getting a hell of a workout.

Anonymous said...

2018 - U17 Girls NPL Finals @ Aurora, CO

FC Virginia (VA, Virginia NPL)
Sockers FC Chicago (IL, NISL)
Sporting Omaha FC (NE, Central States NPL)

The below Region1 leagues also send a rep to the Finals
Elite Development Program - NPL Division
New England Premiership - NPL Division
New York Club Soccer League - NPL Division
Northeast Girls NPL

Anonymous said...

two schools of thought. "if they cannot score, they cannot win" So do you play for the 0-0? That puts a lot of pressure on keeper and defense. Remember once the keeper is diving, jumping, slide tackling. That weakens your keeper, rattles their heads and leaves it open for an easier goal for sure. If you crash the net, apply high pressure and become the team rattling the opposing keeper, especially at this age, that is your best bet if you ask me and several others. Multiple shots on goal, crash net, go for the 3-1 win, 3-2 win. Trying to keep it at 1-0 is crazy, it rarely works.

Anonymous said...

"crash net"

Funny.

This isnt hockey, bro

Anonymous said...

Hey Stats - I like your stuff - I took your idea and applied it to 3 teams.
All 3 are really good teams

Team A (W-T-L)
0 goals against (39-0-0) = 100%
1 goals against (13-3-2) = 78%
2 goals against (3-2-2) = 57%
3 goals against (0-0-1) = 0%
1 or less = 94%
2 or more = 50%

Team B (W-T-L)
0 goals against (20-2-0) = 91%
1 goals against (5-0-0) = 100%
2 goals against (1-3-2) = 42%
5 goals against (0-0-1) = 0%
6 goals against (0-0-2) = 0%
1 or less = 96%
2 or more = 28%

Team C
0 goals against (25-2-0) = 96%
1 goals against (3-7-0) = 65%
2 goals against (1-4-8) = 13%
3 goals against (0-0-2) = 0%
4 goals against (0-0-2) = 0%
1 or less = 88%
2 or more = 18%

Anonymous said...

That's funny, we're always telling the girls to "crash the net on a shot". Is there some snowflake term we should be using like "push the ball in softly but don't hit the keeper"?

Anonymous said...

1:52 - how does that compare with the stats from Jeff cup? Am I right in saying for the most part, if you give up 2 goals your chances of winning go extremely down hill?


I love when a shot is taken from 25-30yds out and the keeper bobbles the ball for a second and everyone screams that you need to be crashing the net. By the time a player would come from an onsides position the keeper could do 5 jumping jacks and still pick up the ball in time.

Anonymous said...

5:08 So you've never seen keepers give up rebounds off their hands and girls following the shot put them in? Because we had at least 3 of those put in by the same girl last weekend and two of them were shot from the 18. Why? Because she always heads to the goal on any shot taken and looks for that to happen. She is awesome at "crashing the net". Some call them garbage goals or token shots, but you have to be persistent to get them.

Anonymous said...

PDA U17 Acceptances by State...
CA : 16
NY : 10
NJ : 9
PA : 7
MD : 6
CT : 5
FL : 4
MA : 4
OH : 4
VA : 4
WA : 4
NC : 3
TX : 3
MN : 2
NH : 2
ALA : 1
AR : 1
CO : 1
IN : 1
MI : 1
NV : 1
SC : 1
WV : 1

Anonymous said...

New York PDA U17 Teams...
Albertson Fury ECNL U17
BC United - 01 Girls
East Meadow ECNL U17
Massapequa Soccer Club - NPL 01 Cosmos
Quickstrike FC - QSFC 01' NPL
SUSA ISA NPL G01
Syracuse Development Academy - 2001 Girls
WNY Flash Academy ECNL U17
World Class FC - 2001 NPL
World Class FC ECNL U17

New Jersey PDA U17 Teams...
NJ Elite - Flames
NJ Wildcats - Fury-NPL
PDA ECNL U17
PDA North US Club U17 - Hornets - NPL
PDA Shore US Club U17 - Fusion
PDA South US Club U17 - Madrid - NPL 
SJEB Rush - U16 01 Girls Academy
STA  - MUSC 2001G NPL

Pennsylvania PDA U17 Teams...
1776 United - 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme
Century United - Century V 01 Gold 
Continental FC ECNL U17
FC Bucks ECNL U17
Lehigh Valley United - LVU 2001 Girls Black
Penn Fusion SA - NPL 2001
Pittsburgh Riverhounds ECNL U17

Connecticut PDA U17 Teams...
Connecticut FC -  - United ECNL U17 Composite 
Connecticut FC ECNL U17
Connecticut FC NPL 2001
FSA FC ECNL U17
FSA FC NPL U17

Anonymous said...

Corrections to the above...

11 teams from NY (not 10)

Match Fit Academy ECNL U17 should be added to the NJ list

(sorry for the sloppiness!)

Anonymous said...

Stallions U16 and Copa U15 were accepted. But both U17 teams are curiously missing.

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