Wednesday, October 2, 2013

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Anonymous said...

We (brick) love you too (gfa) lets get back to bashing

Anonymous said...

I saw slick and the girl blogging from with the administrator from Copa's bench after poaching players from old bridge to complete The 100 man roster for match fit ecnl after that they both guessed played for Holmdale... And Rush simultaneously

Anonymous said...

6:05" "no bias No hindsight just honest research." Rankings blah bah blah-
this is soccer

You really must be new to this soccer scene, putting too much credence into "rankings" and points-we all know NJ has more points then the rest of the nation - ranking inflation very high here in NJ.
honest research shows- CES won spirit 2nd flight where both holmdel & FH played.
4 teams in the top flight were ranked higher than brick, so would predict the winner should have been one of those based on honest research.
Your theories have just been disproved.
All in fun my friend

Anonymous said...

The rankings are far from accurate. Numbers never reflect a current team. NJ faired well at WAGS!

Anonymous said...

Fared well, in what way.
Other age groups maybe

Anonymous said...

No NJ teams even made the semis @ WAGS so if that's fairing well then you have your expectations low.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he was looking at the chart upside down

Anonymous said...

Wow this age group got weak really quick,I guess all the top girls went to ecnl,the gap between the two is huge

Anonymous said...

Gap between who? There are at least 6 nj teams alone who could beat match fit easily. PDA has dropped off. Come out of your little bubble and play with us. Oh wait your not allowed .

Anonymous said...

Too many parent coaching the teams. That's what happens. Play time for the kiddies and playmates, less soccer.

Anonymous said...

How many parents coach Academy teams? Hummm!

Anonymous said...

Monday morning... Copa where are you guys? Would like to know about the weekend. All the " easy" stuff you were going to do. I thought you went to a tournament. Did you?

Anonymous said...

Othee than the Bethesda Team the ECNL did not show well at all in WAGS. More and more convinced the exclusivity has everything to with fear of losing. Kudos to the ECNL teams that did get out of the bubble. Bethesda truly an elite team and they showed it. ,. Others...not so much. Certain that if our two ECNL teams were down they would have faced as good of competiton as they do day to day They would have faced great competiton in the EDP cup as well.

Anonymous said...

7:17 AM

Do you really think that it is a Copa parent who always posts that crap? Come on, you should be smarter than that. Stop trying to stir the pot.

Anonymous said...

COPA had a tough weekend, yes. IF you were at the games you would know that a simple touch of the ball here or not slipping there would have ended the games in a different result. Does not mean COPA isn't very good, just means the breaks didn't all fall their way this weekend.

Anonymous said...

" IF you were at the games you would know that a simple touch of the ball here or not slipping there would have ended the games in a different result"

Wow, you just don't know when to stop do you? Excuses, excuses. After all the horn tooting on here? They are not a top 10 team in NJ, just accept it and please stop typing.

Anonymous said...

8:19 you are delusional! Maybe the first game with global that they lost last minute but with barons and GFA could have been 8 goals in Each game " if the touch of the ball" like you said is few Inches in.you guys have a really hard time admitting that at top flight you don't belong.barons did what they want Saturday. And they didnt make it to final!

Anonymous said...

I am a barons parent and in my opinion in our group GFA howed the best soccer at least with us. I thought it would be easier for us but they came out good and played same level.yesterday team from MD was not good to be in our group. Copa was very weak,no ideas and just kick and run with very little quality. At least in our game. Maybe they had a bad day as you said . Parents were the worst though . Very bitter and arrogant.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Barons were the better team that day. That day. Congrats to the Barons but you know you will see us again, and you know that it wont play out the same way.

Anonymous said...

After all the talk, and all the smoke and mirrors, at the end of the day Brick and the Barons are the top 2 teams in NJ. That's just the way it is. Everyone knows the Barons would have been in the finals if not for the red card 5 mins. In. Sure, GFA played good and took advantage, but it normally wouldn't happen. Kudos to them though.

Anonymous said...

Lmao @ 8:55! Every team was better that day! It's a good thing you got blown out of your own bracket, because you would have been outclassed and embarrassed in the finals.

Anonymous said...

8:58?????? Have you seem the game? Red card to the Goalie was five minutes before the End of the game and the score was already 4-2! I the Goalie didnt come out like she did it would have been 5-2! . have your information straight Please. And give credit to the girls. Barons is a great team and there is lots of respect but the game was played really well by GFA .

Anonymous said...

seen not seem sorry

Anonymous said...

Copa had a bad weekend but still a top level team, history says that. we parents were not upset because we saw the better soccer displayed by our girls. Brick is a kick and run team , barons and gfa got lucky they played us in a bad day and refs were horrible the entire weekend.Barons are going down and gfa is nothing compare to us.

Anonymous said...

Above HAS to be a player. If a parent is that delusional, it's time to stop procreating. You're polluting the planet with your genes.

Anonymous said...

Red card was at the end..it would have been 5-2

Anonymous said...

Freehold and Holmdel both seemed to do a nice job over the weekend. Congrats to both.

Anonymous said...

Add NJ rush to that and I will agree.

Anonymous said...

Freehold should have been in the final. They had a better goal difference, which is the next tie breaker. How was that missed?

Where brackets are created for championship play, the following rules apply to Group Play:

4. In the event of tie between two teams, head-to-head results determine placement.
5. In the further event of a tie, goal differential determines placement, with up to plus-4 or minus-4
units awarded per game.
6. In the further event of a tie, accumulated goals scored with a limit of 4 per game determines
placement.
7. In the further event of a tie, accumulated goals against determines placement, favoring the teams
that allowed the fewest goals.

Anonymous said...

Just bad soccer in nj,after ecnl team no other team can win outside of nj....FACT...

Anonymous said...

10:32, can you read?

Based upon the rules you provided Holmdel was correctly placed in the Championship game. 4 goal max per match. Freehold scored 6 goals in one game, never to see the back of the net again.

Anonymous said...

Brick-kick and run and bully ball
Barons and gfa-move the ball well just no star power
Copa-lost coach,lost 2players to ecnl,can't move ball
FH-homdel- both just not good
Nj has nothing.....

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Anonymous said...

This is girls soccer. You may want to temper your expectations and lighten up a bit.

Anonymous said...

That was for 10:48.

Anonymous said...

POST 10:48 AM

OTHER THEN THE FIVE STATEMENTS YOU POSTED. WAS THER ANY POSITIVE MESSAGES YOU WOULD LIKE TO POST?
TAKE YOUR TIME...THINK ABOUT IT.
DON'T HURT YOURSELF,THOUGH !
WE ALL WANT YOU TO COME BACK UNIJURED.

Anonymous said...

Well, I hope you are happy 12:04, I did not "unijure" myself.

Anonymous said...

copa copa copa !!

Anonymous said...

10:47 sad. What's the matter? Team didn't show up again?

Anonymous said...

10:47 here, not sure what you are asking. Sad? Why would I be sad?

Anonymous said...

gfa is a nice group, coaches are good, they are very dedicated to soccer for the girls. But lets be honest, Brick U14 girls is becoming one of the best in the area and now nation. Lets see them continue to win, play against out of state teams, see how they hold up. But gfa was on point yesterday, good for them, they are back!

Anonymous said...

Brick one of the best in the nation?

Those new girls must really be something!

Anonymous said...

It isnt that difficult to be a top team.

Anonymous said...

It's only difficult for your team. NJ has only 3 top teams where other States in the a Region have more just an opinion.

Anonymous said...

what should we consider the top 5 teams in Nj?

Anonymous said...

funny how the tow teams where slick's daughter was playing end up being the best two teams of the weekend . both teams are better without her lol. sorry slick lol

Anonymous said...

rumors are that slick is in touch with Copa and they are in the middle of a big negotiation .Contract between best team and best player in the state is not easy.plus there is always this parent that every five minutes walks in the room shouting "copa,copa copa " and they have to start all over again.
keep you posted .

Anonymous said...

two not tow lol sorry.

Anonymous said...

End of fall will place top of NJ

Anonymous said...

Check the rankings again for laughs ; nationally -NJ has 3 in top 10 + copa & NJ Crush still in top 25.
Conceivably Brick could go to top with out ever leaving NJ, with recent tourney win, and potential runs for state cup, EDP league & then another NJ tourney win in november gainst the same teams, there is like 20K points in there.
That there would make them the best in the nation.

Hey anybody see Rutgers play & beat perennial powerhouse penn state on TV this past weekend. Played well &. roster mostly home grown

Anonymous said...

Congrats to NJX! Great weekend of soccer.

Anonymous said...

Where did NJX play this weekend?

Anonymous said...

EDP Cup

Anonymous said...

NJX should not

Anonymous said...

Best team in the nation,can't beat 11 poor little rich girls from Morris co. Lmfao

Anonymous said...

12:18
THANKS FOR POINTING OUT MY TYPO.
AFTER CHECKING OUT YOUR POST ONCE MORE I REALIZED YOU MUST BE AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

Anonymous said...

???

Anonymous said...

Brick is on a winning streak!
I've been telling them for months
to dress casual and finally they threw off their ties. lol
Just kidding gang
Congratulations for the EDP win.

Anonymous said...

That's actually a pretty funny reference. Congrats to all the teams who played well this past weekend.

Anonymous said...

Copa is stronger than GFA fact! And better than brick. Fact! This weekend will not happen again. We are out there to win now

Anonymous said...

Copa parents are the worst, at the tournament too, arrogant and bitter. In that aspect copa is number one for sure. And delusional.

Anonymous said...

Don't you have to consistently have to beat tens to claim you are better? Must be nice to live in la-la land. If you lose it's not about winning yet that's what the claims were not that they were confident they would win but the games would be easy which they were right except it was easy for the other teams to win vs Copa as the prediction of 0-3 almost came true as they finished 0-2-1. They have now been in the top flights of Rider Cup & EDP Cup & did poorly against those teams generally in the top flights & they even lost to Freehold who couldn't make the finals in the 2nd flight. Please just be quiet & go away as you look like a total joke now.

Anonymous said...

Meant beat teams.

Anonymous said...

Copa set the record straight against Freehold the week after Rider Cup when it actually mattered... do your research before you start blowing the FH horn again.

Anonymous said...

Brick are only better this year because of the new players from Force. Last year they won nothing and it was very clear that other teams were catching them up or surpassing them.

Funny how an influx of talent that Brick did not develop can change everything and make them a top team again. They were in a bad decline last year. Couldn't even win 2nd flight at FC Stars this season... yet now are best team around?

Come on people. Any given day, any given weekend.

Anonymous said...

look at who you beat and tied,so stop blowing your horn, still 2nd tier

Anonymous said...

Not a Brick parent but 2nd flight at Stars was very good competition. FC Stars is the #1 rated girls tournament of the year.

Anonymous said...

Funny how people are so concerned with what Brick does. If they don't win playing in a top flight they are done then when they win there has to be a reason. A team that has been at the top since intact inception & only plays top teams can't win for winning. Good for them for being able to sustain over the years dealing with the town stigma & players changing over the years. Some teams are good for a year or two them are gone but whether you appreciate it or not it is impressive to see them everytime people claim they are done rise again. Good luck to them the rest if the season.

Anonymous said...

NJ top 5:
PDA
Brick
SJEB
NJ Stallions
GFA
Next 5:
STA
Copa
NJ Crush
Real
Freehold/TRIC/NJX/NJ Rush

Just my opinion & you could make the argument Brick & SJEB could be ahead of PDA but without them playing each other anymore are to compare.

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa!

Anonymous said...

This weekend we get real soccer back to nj pda vs MF the real #1 will be revealed

Anonymous said...

"This weekend we get real soccer back to nj pda vs MF the real #1 will be revealed "

LMAO! Keep dreaming. All that poorly spent money can't buy you the #1 title. Play some meaningful games some time. Neither team can beat Brick or SJEB now. So just stay in hiding.

Anonymous said...

"This weekend we get real soccer back to nj pda vs MF the real #1 will be revealed "

LMAO! Keep dreaming. All that poorly spent money can't buy you the #1 title. Play some meaningful games some time. Neither team can beat Brick or SJEB now. So just stay in hiding.

Anonymous said...

"Brick are only better this year because of the new players from Force. Last year they won nothing and it was very clear that other teams were catching them up or surpassing them.

Funny how an influx of talent that Brick did not develop can change everything and make them a top team again. They were in a bad decline last year. Couldn't even win 2nd flight at FC Stars this season... yet now are best team around?"

Yup, the biggest jackass award goes to you! Each and every year, all teams add and lose players, it's called sports moron. Last month it was "the girls Brick got aren't good enough to make a difference". Now, they're the only reason they are good again? Brick got the best players they could find and are benefitting from it. And these players parents were smart enough to choose the best TEAM and PROGRAM even though it's only a "lowly town team". Grow up and give credit where it's due. Enjoy paying your academy a ridiculous amount of money for nowhere near the same results and level of success.

Anonymous said...

If the parents were smart to come to Brick and a better program, then why bring all that baggage from the Force?

You posted when you were at the Force and brought all that negativity there and your doing that same thing at Brick.
Sure they (Brick) had gotten negative comments in the past just like all teams but now it is Brick that is in there sites.

Stop trying to steal your children's thunder, let them play soccer and enjoy the game. You can watch and support them, celebrate their wins,console their losses.
But your time is over!
Brick can be a good team,a respected team, if you just let them.

Anonymous said...

PDA and MF hide behind labels and are too afraid to damage their ecnl status because when they do and will fall to non-ecnl teams their status will be tarnished and the so called elite league will not have credibility and hurt their pay-roll.

Anonymous said...

Copa is in the top 3 in Nj. Now if you consider PDA and MF then these three are the best in NJ. If you thinking about making a move copa is the place to go. Teaching real soccer on a fantastic organization. In short time this team will show everybody the real quality. An unfortunate weekend doesn't change anything. We can beat brick or GFA or barons any day. Now is all about brick. Lucky they didn't play us. Soon we are going to play GFA in EDP league and you will see the real copa and all will be different. Barons will have a chance to meet you again all will be different. Copa is at top!

Anonymous said...

LOLOL!!! LMAO!!!

Choka Choka Choka!

Top 3? Maybe top 30...

Anonymous said...

"If the parents were smart to come to Brick and a better program, then why bring all that baggage from the Force?

You posted when you were at the Force and brought all that negativity there and your doing that same thing at Brick.
Sure they (Brick) had gotten negative comments in the past just like all teams but now it is Brick that is in there sites.

Stop trying to steal your children's thunder, let them play soccer and enjoy the game. You can watch and support them, celebrate their wins,console their losses.
But your time is over!
Brick can be a good team,a respected team, if you just let them."

You should have stopped drinking earlier. This post is completely nonsensical. But, so are most posts on here. No negativity here, just a happy, solid, winning team that is only getting better.

Anonymous said...

We has officially hit an all time low at this blog.Can we please rename the blog page silly soccer parents smack board. So when you come to read it you are given a heads up on what to expect.



Anonymous said...

Brick is definitely a strong team. However, based on what I saw during the EDP cup tournament, SJEB looked more technical and consistent. Brick's defense is the key. Offense, not so much. SJEB's all formations are great.

Copa should not be even mentioned when talking about these teams. They are at least one division lower team...

I think PDA Splash would have a hard time winning against Brick or SJEB, and even other top NJ teams.

That's the main reason why they don't participate since there is a pretty good chance of loosing.

Anonymous said...

If you knew anything at all about soccer, you would know that the way Copa played was nothing more then working towards perfection. Just moving along in the direction we want too.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand how some people play for MF. They are never in any Tourn. they were off the last few weekends other then a practice or 2... Some kids never see the field... Very stressful.. Parents wake up your killing your kids.

Anonymous said...

What has separated PDA from the Barons & Brick over the years has been depth where they could play with PDA & beat them from time to time but when they subbed it was a different game but now both teams have with Barons losing a dynamic player & still a top 2 team with a win over PDA in the Spring & Brick adding the Force players which I believe makes them the 2 top teams in NJ. Don't know about MF as they are new & there is no body of work so we have to leave them out of the conversation for now at least. My top 3:
Brick
SJEB
PDA

Anonymous said...

Probably makes more sense to group the teams since they can beat each other any other day.

Top teams in my opinion:

1. SJEB, BRICK, PDA
2. GFA, NJ FORCE CRUSH, STA
3. COPA,REAL,TRICK,NJ CRUSH STORM,FREEHOLD

etc...

Anonymous said...

Good list, but force crush folded and is gone.

Anonymous said...

There is no Force Crush and Tric lost to Jackson and Wall. So I wouldnt include them.

Anonymous said...

8:20, you know nothing. Force? You are a dope.

Anonymous said...

"Brick is definitely a strong team. However, based on what I saw during the EDP cup tournament, SJEB looked more technical and consistent."

Not sure how you figure that. One one the tournament giving up only one goal (which was a PK), and the other lost to GFA who Brick handily beat in the finals. And didn't SJEB just get shut out 1-0 by Brick in State Cup? Brick appears to have the edge now. But, to each his own.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, a mistake on my end.

So, what's your list. I was also trying to make a point...

Anonymous said...

Good list but I think STA is going down and are in the third group. Also thing that based on what I saw this weekend GFA is growing into a very competitive team and can be part of the first group any day. Maybe barons and brick have more experience. PDA I do not know as I saw them six months ago. MF has the status and nothing else so far . Maybe if PDA and MF come out and play we can judge otherwise is just status. U earn your credit on the pitch not on advertising.

Anonymous said...

There was alot of talent on the teams this weekend. One thing for sure is the depth of the rosters. The winning teams were very deep.No drop off what so ever!

Anonymous said...

Saw STA play this past weekend and they are not close to what they were in the past.

Anonymous said...

AMEN!

Anonymous said...

Amen!

Anonymous said...

Was talking to one of the STA parents and they have some new girls and 3 of their starters out due to injury.

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa!!!!Best soccer in the state period.

Anonymous said...

9:03 thank you sta parent but please you know that the team is not top anymore. Still can be competitive with copa and freehold.

Anonymous said...

We are 3 months into the season. New player excuse is no longer in play. All teams have them.

Anonymous said...

"I was talking" hehehehehehehehe

Anonymous said...

"I was talking" hehehehehehehehe

Anonymous said...

Why do you insist on double entry every time? Have a little patience and your post will show up.

Anonymous said...

ok

Anonymous said...

ok

Anonymous said...

7:36 am
You had copied my complete post instead of time, first sentence in quotes.
You bore everyone with your tautological rant and you should be more laconic.
Your statement of three sentences two negative,one positive. That is a positive percentage of 30%...just like your win ratio.
I wish the girls well...you not so much!

Anonymous said...

GFA parent here, I agree with the list. We have some maturing to do and we know that high level experience is acquired overtime. There is still time to nurture it. The next 12 months are key to their tactical awareness. Great weekend.

Anonymous said...


U18 WNT - Roster

For all you nuts out there, only 1 player from NJ is in this pool................Oh yeah all of your daughters who play U14 soccer in NJ will get a D1 scholarship and play for the national team....Get a F'in life, stop living through your children.

Roster by Position:
GOALKEEPERS (3): Amanda Dennis (Slammers FC; Murrieta, Calif.), Mikayla Krzeczowski (Concorde Fire; Douglasville, Ga.), Ashley Orkus (Concorde Fire; Birmingham, Ala.)
DEFENDERS (8): Julie Doyle (San Diego Surf; Laguna Nigel, Calif.), Samantha Hiatt (Crossfire CD; Newcastle, Wash.), Courtney Jones (Ohio Elite; Carmel, Indiana), Julie Ann Mackin (Real Colorado; Castle Rock, Colo.), Tatumn Milazzo (Eclipse Select SC; Orland Park, Ill.), Taylor Mitchell (Real So Cal; Los Angeles, Calif.), Shea Moyer (FC Revolution; Wyomissing, Pa.), Mary Vignola (Ohio Elite; Terrace Park, Ohio)
MIDFIELDERS (6): Grace Bahr (Internationals SC; Broadview Heights, Ohio), Malia Berkely (Fairfield Optimist SC; Liberty Township, Ohio), Savannah DeMelo (Beach FC; Bellflower, Calif.), Jordan Harr (Dallas Sting; Sachse, Texas), Amanda Nhek (Braddock Road Youth Club; Gainesville, Va.), Tierna Davidson (De Anza Force; Menlo Park, Calif.)
FORWARDS (7): Jenna Bike (Connecticut FC; Trumbull, Conn.), Isabella Briede (Tophat SC; Alpharetta, Ga.), Eva Hurm (PDA; Upper Saddle River, N.J.), Mia Gyau (Bethesda Lions; Silver Spring, Md.), Madison Haley (Dallas Texans; Dallas Texas), Carly Malatskey (Slammers FC; Newport Coast, Calif.), Samantha Tran (De Anza Force; Tracy, Calif.)

Anonymous said...

Could be a couple.

Dont tell any girl not to dream, especially if she has been having a very good level of success.

Anonymous said...

Could be a couple.

Dont tell any girl not to dream, especially if she has been having a very good level of success.

Anonymous said...

I'm not so sure STA is in for a major decline as they still have some talented players & if they are missing a few key players it's not easy to overcome. Thought they played well this weekend in the game I saw them play & differently then the past teams which I'm sure had to do with the coaching change. I saw GFA play too & was impressed with their energy as they did get better since the last time I saw them so good for them as it's nice to see new teams on the rise & sounds like that at least have a couple realistic parents on their team so good luck to them as well.

Anonymous said...

At u14 and up all the top girls have left for ecnl,that's why town teams win state cup,do your homework and look at past years and now this year...it only gets worse more girls leave and the talent level really drops off so keep telling yourself you are the best in the state.....

Anonymous said...

1:14 to prove if your statement is right you should have ECNL teams ( PDA and match fit ) playing these teams and see if it is true that the best talent is there. The few times they came out of their bubble it didn't look that great for them. Maybe it is you that keep believe in the dream they are selling you.

Anonymous said...

1:11 you will see how much energy gfa will need to play Copa in few weeks at edp league. first we take care of them then work our way vs barons and Brick. Copa will beat them easy. one lucky game doesn't mean anything . we are the team on the rise in NJ either you like it or not.

Anonymous said...

Thanks force dad we all know brick would be no where with out your kid ,you told us 5 times in the last 2 days
Just be happy your on a great team and keep your mouth shut

Anonymous said...

1:57 you must have a really sad life and i feel sorry for you. I cannot imagine the way you felt this past weekend when all these teams were playing for something and you were already done by saturday afternoon. what a waste, and thinking of all the crap you have been posting last week ,must be difficult now.But i appreciate your consistency, instead to learn the lesson and shut up ,you keep going. wow

Anonymous said...

1:28, I'm not 1:14 but please take any major D1 program and look at their clubs before they were recruited and I would say 98%are from ECNL programs. Obviously I am not saying every ECNL girl will be playing D1, but if you want to go that route it gives you the best exposure to top programs (regardless of who your DoC is or how many connections he says he has)

Anonymous said...

"Hey, Kool-Aid!"

Anonymous said...

What a line of crock... ECNL is filled with players and silver spoons. There are many girls that have the ability to compete at the highest level but don't have the means to do so. ECNL is soccer crack.

Anonymous said...

All kids good enough get the ECNL free ride. Sure there are lots of kids who can be role players on ECNL teams, but any impact players get offered a free ride. No arguing that many kids not in the ECNL can make a team, but most will not be impact players if they join after u15

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else see the freehold coaches and parents crying to the EDP staff that the posted rules of the tournament were just not fair.

You lost so just deal with it.

Anonymous said...

Oh, come on mom. We are talking soccer.

Anonymous said...

If you kid is not the "impact player" (4-30) you are just wasting your money & paying for the "impact player's" training...

this "impact player" would have been found anyway even if not for ecnl...

ecnl is a biz 1st period!! and is over priced for the services, creating false hope, most ecnl players will not go to d1 and will play with non-ecnl players if they continue D2-3

Better off just doing college camps save the $$ for tuition.

Lets talk after u18 so you can tell me I'm right.

Anonymous said...

There are free rides in EDP also just ask Copa

Anonymous said...

Your kid should pick a college they want to go to and use soccer to help them get in. If they play bonus.

Not let soccer pick the school. Very few careers in woman's soccer after college.

Don't waste the college years chasing a dream that will not feed you.

Anonymous said...

9:52 yes many people saw that. Manager of freehold is the one starting all of that. She is known for being an arrogant complainer. If the team loses she always looking for something to complain about with the hope of changing things. Worst manager of a mediocre team.

Anonymous said...

Actually the coach was the one raising he**!

Anonymous said...

Maybe us should look outside of the ecnl for some players so we can compete better.

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa!

Anonymous said...

You want to talk about different payments for different people try the Wildcats. The worst for that. Everybody pays something different.

Anonymous said...

Copa is going up in the ranking and all the so call Good going down! We are number 3 now!

Anonymous said...

Careful 1027. I was labeled a chauvinist for saying that last spring.
I agree completely though. Dreams and wishes are nice and worth fostering, but realistic views and seizing opportunities provided by soccer for the best long term success and happiness in life is the better goal.
Enjoy the competition and learn to work hard to achieve success - individual and as part of a team, but remember it is just a game and it is meant to be fun.

Anonymous said...

You stated that Freehold lost and that they have to deal with it. When did they lose?

Anonymous said...

Freehold lost the chance to make it to final. Period now ho away we are talking top teams here not rec. copa 3rd place! Going to be number one soon!

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa!

Anonymous said...

U14 Girls Youth Soccer is the blog name. TOP is not included. JACKASS

Anonymous said...

10:19.

Your statistics are significantly off with regards to ECNL players at the u17 & u18 Recruitment class.

It is very easy to verify that there are many more than just 4 players per team that will play D1 this fall and next.

You can easily verify this . If you have survived The ECNL environment into your JR and Senior year then you have a real shot at making a D! program.

many choose the better D2 school who may be able to play for a D1 because of academic reasons.

And yes lots of D2 & players from Ecnl as well.

I can see from your post that your daughter does not play for an Ecnl team. Your bias is obvious.

Please take a look at the graduating SR listof matchfit and PDA. It is available. you will see the number of D1 schools that these girls plan to attend and play.


Anonymous said...

It doesnt matter how much of a "impact player" you are, nobody is getting free rides at this age, you know why, partially because a previous poster was correct, there are 30 other girls willing to take that spot and pay full price.(I admit it's still a business) I havent seen anyone at this age score a goal EVERY time they touch the ball. Poster talking about "silver spoons" have no idea what you are talking about. Your information is probably from this blog and thats it. Why dont you truly get informed before spouting that ECNL is elitest and only for the rich. Maybe your perception because of a certain teams in your state or because they are geographically not convenient its all the sudden elitest, but not all ECNL teams across the country, trust me on this one. Yes, I am an ECNL parent and I know from tryouts that all your top players and team captains were at our club trying out.(mayeb thats why so many are angered, just didnt make the cut?) The girls that made the team are all top girls from a 40+ mile radius. What does that mean? depth of top players. Players all committed and focused only on soccer, girls not waiting for basketball or lax season to come. How many times have you been in a close game and the coach makes a sub and you can hear the mummbling and see they eye rolling because the talent level just dropped, or pissed that you go out of your way to make a practice in the winter (if you even practice in the winter) and half the girls are no shows because of basketball. Exceptions to all, but that doesnt happen in ECNL.

Anonymous said...

ECNL would be out of the question for a player of limited means. The lower/middle income talent is not at try outs.

Anonymous said...

Every ECNL player I am aware of personally is from a family that can easily pay.

Anonymous said...

Re: Freehold

6-0 and 2-0 wins

vs

5-1 and 3-1 for NJX

Yeah, they got screwed

But the posted rules favored NJX, somehow.......

The difference here is EDP Cup doesnt give extra points for shutouts - and favors goals scored (4 per game max) over goals allowed.....

Had Freehold been on top of it they'd have known they were not advancing, as unfair as the rule appears. And could have avoided a scene.

Anonymous said...

NJX paren here and the rules wee extremely confusing. We didn't think we advanced and freehold had a valid point. Wish they would stick to head to head then goals against. Much easier.

Anonymous said...

Based on those numbers Freehold would be the team that would make sense to advance. The rules however state differently. Bad work by EDP. If you are flighting the teams properly then eliminate the 4 goal differential.

Anonymous said...

We have all lost or won games on bad calls, rules we didn't know or understand.
Just take it on the chin and move-on! Next week there will be another game, another tournament.

Anonymous said...

"easily pay"...
a bit of a stretch. most clubs not just ECNL clubs have payment plans.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe COPA is not going to Bethesda. I thought they would want to compete against some very strong competition other than Brick, Freehold, SJEB, NJX....Sorry, reality is you can't / don't win when you play outside of NJ. #3 give me a break. Got soccer is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Ecnl-
They are not developing players though. Right or wrong they simply are. For instance Penn Fusion 98. Considered a good team by most. At one point last season it was something like 38/42 goals were scored by 3 players from Classics and Ldc who had come over. With out those 3 where would they be? For me the decision is easy. It's an hour drive. At my daughters age group Penn Fusion and Continetal are not very good. So why pay the money and why travel. We will continue to beat those Ecnl teams every time we play them. Also if your daughter is on a really good nonEcnl team. And she is top 1 or 2 on the team. And you beat the Ecnl teams. College won't be an issue. I don't need 300 coaches of which more then 3/4 are d2 or d3 to stoke my ego with attention. She knows where she wants to go. She has their attention so what's the point. If you want coaches stroking your ego and you want to pay top dollar to get beat by parents paying $1000 bucks a year have at it. Know that in 5-6 years you'll be wondering what the heck it was all for. Or it will be sooner when you finally talk one of us into coming over and knocking little Mia off the team. If it's so awesome and so worth it wouldn't you keep your flapper shut out of fear your daughter will get knocked off. There will always be someone better.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is not the only tournament out there guys. COPA!!!!

Anonymous said...

Is the new style of play from STA to have kids carry the ball the length of the pitch with their head down then turn it over, or allow the opposing team to control possession for the majority of the match while defending inside the 18?

I saw a lot of both this past weekend.

Anonymous said...

Copa doesn't compete with the NJ teams either as evident from this past weekend. They are more suited to play Wildcats, NJX, Freehold, TRIC, Stronghold & Rush instead of the top teams in NJ or any State for that matter. They are legends in their own minds & have be one the but of jokes just like Jackson used to be before they finally did everyone a favor & fold. Couldn't even come on here & face the music after a weekend that really showed that you don't belong yet.

Anonymous said...

WRONG, COPA belonged, in some cased dominated play. Final score is not always indicative of the play on the field.

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Anonymous said...

Of course the ECNL will give greater visibility. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves. Boys side, Academies do the same. Does it mean the the best players are in ECNL or Academy, no, but it does make your job of getting into school harder if you arent in one of these.

My kids dont play in the ECNL or Academy. Doesnt mean I dont know the truth.

Anonymous said...

okay I need some help on this one. In the event of tie between two teams, head-to-head results determine placement. They tied so we move on to the next one.

5. In the further event of a tie, goal differential determines placement, with up to plus-4 or minus-4 units awarded per game.
Freehold had a 6GD (4-0 & 2-0) and NJX had a 5GD (4-1 & 3-1) over the two games Freehold moves on to final.

This tie breaker does not come in to effect as Freehold had a better GD.
6. In the further event of a tie, accumulated goals scored with a limit of 4 per game determines
placement. NJX has 7 Freehold 6

Freehold should have been in the final based on the second tie breaker rule posted on the tournament web site.

Anonymous said...

If that is off their website and I cant imagine that it isnt. EDP made a mistake. However, if it was argued as previously mentioned, how could they NOT have figured this out?

Anonymous said...

ECNL gives greater visibility for colleges and national team without a doubt. Can your kid get similar visibility if she is ODP regional team and national league? I believe probably. Region 1 league though probably not equivalent to ECNL. Do you think that the best couple of kids on a top 2 non ECNL team in any state in R1 who does not do ODP can get the same exposure? Maybe if NPL and id2 selected but otherwise my guess is probably not.

Anonymous said...

Someone official/or at least knows what happened going to respond to 1:56? If poster is correct, then what happened is just terrible. And EDP Cup officials should be ashamed.

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Anonymous said...

Yes it was.
http://www.socceragency.net/maps/2014/1410_edpcup/homepage.htm

http://www.socceragency.net/maps/2014/1410_edpcup/rules.pdf

Page 5.

Anonymous said...

2:27 why change the subject. I have zero affiliation with Freehold and I am interested to know why this decision was made. I am sure it wan not anti Freehold and pro Holmdel so keep that out.

Anonymous said...

freehold freehold freehold!

Anonymous said...

agreed. We can all say it doesn't matter because it was bracket two or that it is just for bragging rights. But actually, this is interesting. And it is a topic of conversation where there is a right and a wrong answer and we aren't actually bashing anyone. (Except potentially EDP decision makers and I assume that they are adults so if they made a mistake, they should own it!)

But don't forget there are GS points - which actually do matter to the non NPL or ECNL teams as they effect future tournament placement.

And if EDP screwed up, how do you fix this? Freehold lost out on a tie breaker to NJX who then lost the final in a shootout. Do they replay the final? Wow....

Anonymous said...

nothing will be done. My question is simple..........if the rules are laid out as simply as the above poster then how is it possible that Freehold and Holmdel accepted the answer they were given by EDP. Holmdel, what was EDP's explanation of why you were advanced ahead of Freehold? Freehold, what did they tell you? Something has to be missing.

Anonymous said...

Is the answer just as easy as "freehold didn't know or were mistaken on the tie breakers". Hard to believe as most parents know ever permutation that needs to take place for them to get into the finals...(i.e. we have to win by 3 goals and they have to lose by two goals for us to go through)

Anonymous said...

Ok. I went back read the rules myself. Seems like the person who calculated the second tie breaker up above as 4-0 and 4-1 made a mistake. It should have been 4 points to both NJX and Freehold as NJX won 5-1 and therefore gets the full 4 points bringing both teams to 6 points in the second tie breaker.

So NJX won on the tie breaker on goals scored and the correct team went through.

Obviously, we can all debate the merit of the rules as established (pretty terrible i think we can all agree) but much more interesting when it seemed like maybe someone had screwed up and sent the wrong team through.

We could have conspiracy theoried this to death...

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Anonymous said...

The fact that the PF '98 team collected such strong players from LDC and Classics (60-90 miles away) says something about the draw of the ECNL. Who is to say that these players might not be even better if they had been developed at West Chester. It is a fallacy that great training can turn an un athletic kid into a great soccer player no matter how passionate. Likely these kids got adequate training, but athleticism and drive made them into the players they are today. Also they are still developing and obviously their parents thought that PF brought the best combination of training, competition and exposure for them. How much do you think they pay...

Anonymous said...

Okay now I've also looked up the rules.
I read it like this.
Does the 4 goal cap count in the tie breakers?
If not
Freehold won 6/0 & 2/0
NJX won 5/1 &3/1
Freehold is plus 8
NJX is plus 6

With the 4 goal cap its 6/5 Freehold.
The first tie breaker was goal differential

Good thing this is not an election ballet.



Anonymous said...

Speed and size get you to D1 not ECNL

Anonymous said...

Enough already. Read the friggin tiebreaker rule word for word. Yes up to a maximum of 4. They did it right. You are out.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to guess that the classics 98 PF girl who is on the u17 national team and just played in China or somewhere over there would not be better coming out of West Chester. Big difference between National pool and playing on the team. They did see a draw and a reason to drive almost 2 hrs one way. On the other hand wouldn't her spot on the u17 team get her almost any college she wants? And she didn't need or use PF to get that spot.

Anonymous said...

If you read it correctly Freehold won 4-0 & 2-0 & NJX won 5-1 & 3-1 which is 8 goals scored to 6 goals. I agree with you the 8 goals should count for Freehold then the goals against would have eliminated NJX. Tough to not give a goal & not make the finals but that has been happening at all the EDP tournaments over the last year where teams can play for a tie on Sunday & move on because they scored 1 more goal even though they also gave up goals. Need to know the rules & adjust to them as Freehold needed to win 3-0 not 2-0 but I'm sure the coaches had no idea.

Anonymous said...

FREEHOLD madness:

Here it is in a nutshell:

The 5th goal for NJX counts when determining goal differential, since it still only took them to +4.

5-1 and 3-1 equals a +6, not a +5. Freehold was also +6 (+4 for the 6-0 win and +2 for the 2-0 win)

Next tiebreak is goals scored.

NJX now gets just 4 for the 5-1 win, but gets 3 for the 3-1 win. That is 7.

Freehold gets 6, since they get just 4 for the 6-0 win and 2 for the 2-0 win.

7-6, favoring NJX

Screwy, but it is there in print.

Had Freehold won 4-2, which I dont favor as a score to 2-0, they would have been in final (with 8 goals total)



Then in the next

Anonymous said...

Freehold won 4-0 & 2-0 & NJX won 5-1 & 3-1 which is 8 goals scored to 6 goals. I agree with you the 8 goals should count for Freehold then the goals against would have eliminated NJX.

You have to adjust the NJX 5-1 game to 4-1 and it was goal difference so its FH 6 NJX 5

Anonymous said...

By the rules they got it right. rules not rocket science the + or - 4 is per game;
Could only imagine reaction on this blog complaining about running up the score, bad sportsmanship.

Anonymous said...

Just bad rules

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Anonymous said...

I think the NJX coaches and Freehold coaches should have a 3v2 match. They are evenly matched.

Anonymous said...

"Bad rules" based on what? Rules were same for all. Been the same in these MAPS tournaments forever. Maybe +/- 3 previously. Not a peep before.
If you made it to the 7th tie breaker than shut outs win. What is harder in this game -to prevent scoring or to score ?? Rhetorical question. Easier to defend then score. I like a rule that encourages attacking ahead of defending . And also seems haven't seen those arbitrary next day shootouts- that occur often with that other rule system.
start a petition to switch rule 6 with 7.

Anonymous said...


Freehold also tied the runner up of the other bracket in the 3rd place match.

Anonymous said...

6:17

INCORRECT

It is NOT adjusted down to 4-1 since the goal DIFFERENTIAL limit is 4.

It IS adjusted with goal scored since the goal SCORED value for each game's limit is 4.

Differential - 4+2 for NJX
Differential - 4+2 for Freehold

Next tiebreak

Goals scored -

4+3 for NJX
4+2 for Freehold

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Anonymous said...

Are you speaking to miss manager? That should be her official tilt from now on bases on this whole affair.
Miss manager. I like that.

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Anonymous said...

They did play the best soccer

Anonymous said...

Best soccer? Lol go back to read the rules of the tournament because is to late to read about how to play soccer. Basketball season is coming soon

Anonymous said...

8:08 wow that is big...

Anonymous said...

8:08pm what are you getting at? How do you have this inside information? If true terrible what is going on there & everyone should leave the Club immediately.

Anonymous said...

Move on Freehold and pay attention next time. Or even better score more goals. I'm sure you didn't stop because you thought it was enough.

Anonymous said...

Let me explain to all of you about this NJX, Freehold controversy.

Once upon a time there was two soccer teams that went to the EDP Tournament in NJ.
Nobody had read the rules till they needed to see who would be in the finals.....bla...bla...bla.

Really people, lets try to act like grown ups.
Stop your gripping and remember,
"These are the good ole days"
Lets try to remember the positive.

Anonymous said...

9:01 is right these things are really bad and actions by parents should be taken immediately! Wow

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Anonymous said...

Copa Copa Copa needs to tell everyone the REAL reasons why their coach left.

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Anonymous said...

"That's what town teams provide - unskilled leadership that don't realize they need to pay attention to the rules."

Not EVERY town team...like the one that won the top flight.

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