Wednesday, October 2, 2013

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Anonymous said...

9:13 - you should go play 1v1 with the Copa coach and see if you have any skill.

Anonymous said...

Someone is doing something well at Copa... hard to believe a coach with no skill could take them through the year they have had.

However the idiot that keeps posting 'copa copa copa' just needs to shut up. They have been very quiet and have just been getting on with their season. Other teams bash when they have nothing to say/brag about themselves.

Just focus on your own daughters team.

Anonymous said...

My guess is an NJX parent or coach trying to steer talk away from them. Leave Copa alone.

Anonymous said...

Who IS Copa? It's a serious question, as I honestly do not know.

Anonymous said...

Copa takes ex-PDA players.

Anonymous said...

There is not 1 girl on Copa U13s that used to play for PDA. Try again... troll.

Anonymous said...

NJX NJX NJX NJX NJX!!!

Anonymous said...

STALLIONS STALLIONS STALLIONS #1 IN NJ!!!

Anonymous said...

NJX coach needs to let her daughter be coached by someone else. If it was an individual sport then it would be fine. But it's a team sport and the mom coach has to wake up and realize the detriments she is casting to her kid as well as the other players and their parents. The mom coach can always do private training with her daughter. At some point she needs to let go.

Anonymous said...

11:24 Can you deny Copa takes ex-PDA players?

Anonymous said...

Cops won the edp north division and the bracket of NPL they competed in. They will face the other bracket winner (probably Barons) for a trip to Nationals

Anonymous said...

"NJX NJX NJX NJX NJX!!!"

LOL,LOL,LOL, LMAO!!!!!

"STALLIONS STALLIONS STALLIONS #1 IN NJ!!!"

LMAO,LMAO,LMAO!!!

Anonymous said...

11:27 - I can deny that the U13s have any ex-PDA players. As for other age groups I do not know.

Doesn't everyone take ex pda players every year when pda cast off their unwanted?

Anonymous said...

9:13 - any balls to say where you are from? No? Thought so.

Keep quiet 'mate'

Anonymous said...

Do you people really think the players don't come on here and read this horrible blog? How do these girls feel when they read their coaches getting bad-mouthed and falsely portrayed?

These young girls idolize their coaches, love and respect them. We should ban all talk about coaches on here. Its just not right.

Anonymous said...

You have been stalking LC and her children for a number of years now!
Shouldn't you cease and desist?

Anonymous said...

That player turned down PDA,get it right,,,,,,

Anonymous said...

Let's be fair. None of us truly know a coach and what he/she is like unless we have played or are playing for them. We should refrain from commenting about coaches. They are helping our kids play the game they love, bottom line.

Anonymous said...

Dear MORON who said Copa won EDP north,

Pls check the records before you make statements that are false.

A-Copa has two games to play
B-New Hyde park is no push over.
C-If they win both, then tie breakers will determine.

SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU POST>.

I used caps to be sure you heard me.

Anonymous said...



you have to speak with a British accent for him to understand. The COPA coach will never learn, he lives on this blog. It is really a shame. Does he coach other teams? How can you survive in this state coaching a U13 girls team?

frank lentz said...

Heading to Jersey Shore Championship Cup from Central Pa. next weekend. No brackets posted yet that I can find? Figure we will be in top Bracket. All the other teams are from NJ. Who should we be worried about? Just curious....Thanks!

Anonymous said...

That tournament is a week away, and I can't find any flight or schedule info on it. Looks to be a local
Low level tournament though. I've never even heard of it.

Anonymous said...

thanks 11:04...We have never been there, but a bunch of teams from our club are going? Wall SC wizards have the highest rating, but that does not always mean anything. Not that we are world beaters either, decent team from Central PA....Was just curious as the folks on here seem very knowledgeable in regards to Nj teams...

Anonymous said...

All pretty mediocre clubs. Wall wizards probably the only team that plays tough competition, but they are usually down in the standings - fast, but inconsistent attack. Not sure what CASL team you are, but not really any tough challengers unless someone guests elite team players.

Anonymous said...

Oops. Meant to say Copa WILL win north. NHP can't get title and Copa can - motivation will prevail. With two wins, they'd get goal differential tie breaker because they should beat Force by more than one.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 11:15...we will see? hopefully a nice weekend

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Anonymous said...

For the last time, the coach does not come on here. All the parents read it, and one of us agrees to post on our behalf and is very fair as you have all seen. The people posting that we will win this and win that are again trying to stir trouble.

Our coach has us and another 3 teams in the club, and is by far one of the better coaches. We are very happy with him and with our team. As I said last week after Delco, we have a long way to go before we can compete at the next level, but we are very happy with the progress made this year, and the additions to the roster for next year.

You should all really focus your energy elsewhere. Bash us and the coach all you want, we are happy and you won't cause any rifts between anyone.

You have no right to speak about someone you don't know. None of you know our coach. Come watch him train, see him coach, meet him. We are lucky to have him. If he came on this blog he would be shocked at the things said about him as they are completely untrue, as I'm sure many things about other coaches are that are posted on here.

Leave us alone.

Anonymous said...

Gimme a break. Yeah Right

Anonymous said...

You said " None of you know our coach".

Not tue- you may think that, BUT

Anonymous said...

Nice story coach!

Anonymous said...

There really is some sad people on this blog. None of you would say a word to people's faces. Hide behind your computer. Cowards

Anonymous said...

@ 3:27 PM
For you to think that was the coach who posted at 1:09 just shows how stupid you really are. All you have to do is go onto the Copa website and you can see that he was coaching one of his other teams at that time.

For some reason this age group and the U12 Girls have the worst comments over any other age groups. It seems anytime a team does well there are always people trying to make stuff up.
Stop living your life through your daughter and just enjoy the game.

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Anonymous said...

All coaches build up their teams and players, and you parents always come down hard on the ones that do well. Maybe it's because the team you are at has coaching issues? Just because you aren't happy with your team doesn't give you the right to bash teams that are happy and doing well.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats 0-2 Force Crush today.

If Force beat Real tomorrow they should finish 1st in EDP South. They would need a win over Stronghold next week to guarantee it.

Would be a nice way to end for that team before they go their separate ways.

Wildcats 0 wins this season. Real 0 wins this season.

Anonymous said...

Time out.

Anonymous said...

Nice win for Holmdel today. One more to clinch. Good luck. Hope you can shut up all the clueless critics by winning your division.

Anonymous said...

Yeah the 2nd Division... and then the same thing will happen to you in the fall that's happening to Real now... win a poor second division with teams like 'Torpedos' and 'Watchung Hills' and you will move up to First Division and get destroyed... especially without the players that are leaving.

You will need that luck...

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Anonymous said...

I am usually one of her biggest critics because of all the history and antics, but I had to admit it was a nice win. They can only win what division they are in so if they do then yes I say well done. Cops moved up from second division last season and will finish very well in the first division so you never know. I don't think NJX is anywhere close to Copa in skill level, but that's next season. Well done for this season.

Anonymous said...

Hey wildcat parents, why don't you suggest that your coach try something new and maybe you can win a game. Maybe one of those bench warming source of donations could give the girls a much needed rest once in a while. Maybe the select few are overplayed, out of position, and just plain poorly coached. Feel bad for the girls - especially those that never play - but kinda glad that loser game up goose egg in the win column.

Anonymous said...

GFA also moved up from second division to 1st and finished with only 2 losses. They will take 3rd or 4th place.

Go NJX!

Anonymous said...

GFA will be middle of the pack which isn't saying much considering who is below them. Nothing special there. They benefitted by weak competition. They seem to choke in every tournament or pressure game. They can't beat a solid D. They are behind Copa in skill level for sure.

Anonymous said...

These people commenting on Copa skill level once again are not Copa parents, just to be clear.

However, brings up an interesting topic to discuss... Finally soccer for once. Which teams in NJ truly have the best SKILL level? True talented players. We all know the difference between an athlete and a technically skilled player.

I know GFA have some very skilled girls, as do SJEB, Copa and STA. some of the more faster athletic teams are Americans, Force Crush and Brick.

Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Team skill very different from having skilled girls.

Anonymous said...

This will be fun!!!!which team has had the best spring?should be easy !!!!!! But it won't be

Anonymous said...

Hey wildcat parents, why don't you suggest that your coach try something new and maybe you can win a game. Maybe one of those bench warming source of donations could give the girls a much needed rest once in a while. Maybe the select few are overplayed, out of position, and just plain poorly coached. Feel bad for the girls - especially those that never play - but kinda glad that loser game up goose egg in the win column.

I agree 100%. I'm not sure how this organization think that by playing the same 11 players and losing games they will get some place. First of all, they need to train all players not just the starting 11. Do they think that parents will continue to play 2,400 dollars a year to have their child warm the bench and not be trained properly.
I hear this problem through out all age groups so I'm sure parents are not making this up. Leave now before you warm the bench another year.

Anonymous said...

Your glad that young girls are finishing a soccer season with a goose egg record? Do you hear yourself?

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Anonymous said...

9:27 10:59 Same person?? Look at the messages. LOL

Anonymous said...

9:39, behind skill level of copa for sure? Really?
All the time is see them play copa I do not remember that , but if you say so ...

Anonymous said...

Copa is probably the best skilled team, thanks to good training and a coach that work the girls the right way. That is a fact

Anonymous said...

Seriously? Copa again so early in the morning? Now the same guy is going to step in and say the usual " it is not a Copa parent or it is not our coach and blah blah blah". This constant promotion is kind of boring right now.

Anonymous said...

Wow - interesting. Someone has a great tool to measure & compare COPA & GFA skills. Since I don't have it, I have to use the only one I have - look at the actual results.

GFA dominated COPA outside even if they did not have their full squad (roster) available - please check results.

GFA completely dominated COPA (all teams + U14) inside (indoor tournaments even playing up) - please check results.

By my measure, your comparison has no base. Others, make your own judgement.

ps:
please don't attack any team now. I just wanted to point out the facts and set the "objective" guy straight.

Anonymous said...

Surely SJEB are the most skilled? They have a roster full of talented players.

Anonymous said...

GFA and Copa have not played outdoors since September... That's a long time ago. And the score was 4-2. Hardly domination.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait for this blog to disappear one day.

Anonymous said...

good point. So, how you can compare current skills set? I am not saying you did it but the one who did must be a genius and "amazing" analysis skills set.

Anonymous said...

Who else would it be?? At least NJX isn't getting bashed for a little while! This blogged is disgusting..

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Anonymous said...

Hey Mr 8:31... How has your team done this spring? Won a tournament? Won 2 tournaments? NPL Final? Top 2 in EDP?

Thought not.

Anonymous said...

Look at DELCO. 2 ties and only one win. Destroyed in semis. How it puts you in the top?

Anonymous said...

Copa is one of the best team ( soon the best) in new jersey. If you guys are all upset about it , nothing we can do. Keep bashing but facts are facts.
We won everything that was to be won this season. Girls are very skilled and dominating most of the games. Coach is very prepared and experienced. Contrary to what most people say in this blog is very professional and respectful of all girls parents and opponents.

Anonymous said...

To be fair if I was on Copa id be happy with this season. They won the Jeff Cup, won at PDA, could win EDP 1st Divsio north, and are in NPL Final with a chance to go to Nationals. Also showed well at Delco before the Semi's, getting out of group play undefeated against very good competition.

Every tournament they have played they have been up against quality teams. They must be disappointed with going out of state cup so early and losing badly in Semi's at Delco, but that's soccer.

Nobody can knock them for the season they have had. Respect where it's due. I wish my daughters team had their results!

Anonymous said...

Your girls definitely deserve some respect as they had a good spring season. But be careful when you ruined their reputation by making an artificial statement(s). Only time will show where your team will be. At this point, you have had good results but not superior ones (especially not in top brackets) that can make you a superior team. At least - not now.

Anonymous said...

We know how you feel, Copa parents. You are right.
NjX is always attacked too. Still one of the best team on new jersey and people cannot stand it. My suggestion is to relax and let them attack us. At the end we are still at the top

Anonymous said...

Brick will be strong this coming season.
New players coming in. Copa will be the team to beat next season and probably end up number 1 in state. That is my prediction as a parent by seeing how my daughter is improving with this group

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa copa copa copa!!!!

Anonymous said...

As always next year will be interesting. Players come and go from teams, some players develop and some don't, some teams start to click others don't, sometimes the ref gives you a call and sometimes he goes against you, and sometimes the ball just bounces your teams way.

I am going to enjoy this beautiful weather on the sideline today and do nothing but cheer for my team. I suggest you all do the same.

Anonymous said...

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work ...

Why don't you all take a rest on this seventh day!
Leave Copa alone. Leave them all alone. You are an absolute mockery of what people were intended to be...

You don't know anything about who these people are that you are bashing. You only know rumors and lies and shame on you for perpetuating them.

Anonymous said...

Question: Did the current Copa players start at Copa at U8?

Anonymous said...

Probably not. Have PDA, MF, SJEB etc players been at their respective teams since U8? Not with copa but I see your point. Academies recruit. Plain and simple. But that's nothing new.

Anonymous said...

Probably not. Have PDA, MF, SJEB, etc been with their respective teams since U8? I am not with copa, but I see your point. Academies recruit. That's nothing new.

Anonymous said...

The blog is like a train wreck, nobody wants to see it...but can't help but look.

To all the bashers....You better hope there isn't a God !
Your group will be one of the first to be judged.

Anonymous said...

Don't you people have games to go to?
Give it a break already!

Anonymous said...

13 of the current Copa team started with the team when it was formed at U11.

Anonymous said...

As I read through all the comments there are a few that come to mind....

1. no parent should ever be a coach on the same team their daughter or son plays on.....after rec ball there's no place for mommies and daddies to be coaching their own kids....I agree with the previous blogger...cut the strings, let your kid compete with everyone one and "oh yea".....make it a level playing field....so to speak.

2. Parents and players should be able to speak openly about their coaches....for those coaches who are really good and have nothing to hid and do right by the players and team there will never be anything bad said or written about them. But for those coaches who play games, lie, mislead, manipulate and cheat players of valuable time where it could be spent somewhere else...then they should be held accountable for those actions.

3. Every coach should have a moral obligation to do right by each player on his/her team....and I know from personal experience that is certainly not the case and that....my friends....is why this blog exists......there's a lot of behavior going on by coaches and clubs which shouldn't be allowed but very few people have the guts and determination to take them on......and the emotional blackmail that goes one by some coaches with parents and players is very, very sad and patheletic.

Anonymous said...

Bottom line is this...Don't just take what these coaches say to you at face value. If you think something isn't right, then say so and don't let them intimidate you. It's ridiculous when a coach or club tells you not to tryout somewhere else while they bring new players in to tryouts for their own team.

Anonymous said...

What the hell are you people crying about? If you're not happy somewhere then leave as there are many options in this age group but to complain about players coming in is ridiculous! If team doesn't do well them players will leave but if you bring in better players then players getting pushed to the bottom aren't happy but players at top won't stay if team doesn't compete. I want my kid on a good te with good training, coaching & players & if that means my kid has to work harder for minutes that's fine as that is life.

Anonymous said...

To 7:23 and 8:18 posts....you are absoluletely right. If something isn't working then you move on....glad there are some parents or coaches on here who get it...

Anonymous said...

Copa dos not have better or More skilled players than GFA. Copa has ways to go before they can match up skill wise. Lets see how they organize EDP for fall. GFA I've Copa on any given day.

Anonymous said...

Statement didn't make sense 1st time so not sure why it got posted 4x??? GFA is a 2nd tier team with dilusionsal parents!!! They don't & won't beat the big teams which puts them with the Freeholds of the world which is okay but not a top team. Copa will continue to get better where GFA will go away in a year.

Anonymous said...

I dont give a crap about gfa but I am sick of Copa copa copa copa. Btw. What what makes you the first tier team and the other one 2nd? What is the measure? If you would play the south division of EDP, you would have a thiner voice. Probably you would be somewhere in the bottom 3-4. I think you are the delusional one.

Anonymous said...

Copa, do you think you are better than sjb or brick? Ye...lol

Anonymous said...

Any predictions on who makes it to NC for the NPL finals?

Anonymous said...

8:18 you said a mouth full!

Anonymous said...

nobody has anything to discuss,pretty much the nature of this blog, if it weren't for the troll (copa, IGF, NJX) getting good traction, their aint much here for days.
Go Stronghold , Go Match Fit, Go Barons

Anonymous said...

June 1, 2014 at 9:56 PM

Calm down,just someone trying to create a problem. Ignore them if you can! I know it is hard,
"just one for the gipper!"

Anonymous said...

Manhattan, New Hyde Park, Americans and NYSC are just as strong as SJEB, Brick and Force Crush.

EDP North just as good as the south. Don't try and say the south is stronger. That's a ridiculous statement.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't look like Barons dominating lately only playing to draws against mediocre competition. At least so far this Sprng.

Anonymous said...

Barons have had some strange results this spring. Tieing NJ Rush, Wildcats, only winning 1-0 over Stallions. However they did beat Splash at the PDA Tournament and got to final of EDP Cup with a strong showing.

Copa are playing well. Some good results like tieing NYSC, beating Americans, and a couple nice tournament wins. Seem to be playing with a lot of confidence.

From what I have seen, Barons have a very strong defense and Copa has a very strong offense. The midfields are both skilled and should have a good battle.

Will be a close one. Experience may win and Barons might take it. .

Anonymous said...

8:47pm - Slick is back! It's been a while. Nobody has been talking about you because you haven't really done much since losing to STA in state cup...

Anonymous said...

Watch out for Stronghold in the fall. We tied GFA, tied SJEB, and we just beat Freehold today 1-0.

We are coming for the top teams!

Anonymous said...

10:52 there was never a slick and nobody is back , only some usual haters that want to cause trouble like you.
Please let Copa parents enjoy their great team and leave everybody else alone.

Anonymous said...

COPA COPA COPA, everybody will go away in a year and COPA will continue to grow! All the way to number one ( we are already better than Barons)
COPA COPA COPA!!!!

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Anonymous said...

11:23 are you really that dumb to think Copa parents are posting this stuff?

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't call it dumb you moran.....just calling someone's bluff.

Anonymous said...

Moron is spelt M-O-R-O-N. Not 'moran'.

Dumb...

Anonymous said...

SLICK IS BACKKKKKK (and GFA parents have already jumped to his defense)

Anonymous said...

it way a typo.....yes I know how to spell moron and a lot of other words.....do you always focus on the little stuff or aren't you capable of seeing the bigger picture......

Anonymous said...

Slick is back.....time to make the donuts



Anonymous said...

So 11:23, 11:29 and 11:34... what's your point?

If you are that switched on then you would know its never parents of teams that big-up their own team on here. Its those sad little people we call trolls.

Copa, GFA, NJX, and whoever else gets destroyed on here, so so because of sad parents that don't even belong to those teams.

Anonymous said...

Point is that I think it's someone from COPA.......funny how the comments went cold after you ask somone to actually back up their comments with some shred of information.....

Anonymous said...

Back up what comments?

Anonymous said...

Reason nobody from Copa is backing anything up... is because nobody from Copa is saying anything in the first place.

Anonymous said...

all their blather....maybe it's time to say goodnight gracie.....

Anonymous said...

"Watch out for Stronghold in the fall. We tied GFA, tied SJEB, and we just beat Freehold today 1-0.

WE ARE COMING FOR THE TOP TEAMS!"

You are? Yet another over-excited up and comer huh? The only decent thing in there is the SJEB tie. What have you done against the REAL top teams. Because even bothering to mention IGFA and Freehold is a joke. But hey, if you're happy I'm happy! ;-)

Anonymous said...

You people that think the top teams will stay the top teams year in year out are delusional. There will always be excited up-and-comers. Soccer is always evolving and changing.

Gone are the days of just STA, Splash and Brick like it was at U11. There are more fish in the pond. Enjoy it! Embrace it! Get used to it!

It might be GFA, Copa, NJX or Stronghold now. Next year someone else, then again the year after. Teams get better, face it.

Anonymous said...

How bout we just be happy for everyone. Some teams will return in the fall and progress. Others played their last games together this weekend and are going seperate ways after playing together for a long time. Good for you Copa-they were young and they had eachother who could ask for more. Good for you NJX. But bull. Nobody is innocent on this blog. Freehold, yea you won some games and you think your sh*# don't stink but it's teams like yours and NJX and Brick that can only bring you so far. There is nothing to offer these young girls for continued developmental play. How many Division 1 scholarships has Brick gotten for their players? Does NJX have any record like that or contacts with college coaches? I'm not talking about playing at just any college either. Brag all you want now. You will break up very soon and in the next two to three years the other loser teams will have stayed together. Music and passion were always the fashion at the Copa, they fell in love.

Anonymous said...

"Gone are the days of just STA, Splash and Brick like it was at U11. There are more fish in the pond. Enjoy it! Embrace it! Get used to it! "

Those days are gone? There may be a few more fish in the pond, but it's not the ones that keep telling us they are on here. Quite a few small dogs with big bark syndrome actually. Seen em' come and seen em' go...

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa copa copa!!!

Anonymous said...

8:17 you are a sad, pathetic loser. Just go away.

Anonymous said...

You are doing really well in your spelling lessons.
Keep up the good work we are very proud of you.. ;-)

Anonymous said...

After NHP game this weekend it will be a new chant - Choke-a, Choke-a, Choke-a, Choke-a. Repeat the same after the Barons game.

Anonymous said...

Everyone seriously needs to drop it now. It's getting way out of hand.

Anonymous said...

Among the poor spellers of the world, here is just a few..Einstein, Churcchill, Hemmingway, Ben Franklin and Faulkner.
You may be in good company and I'm sure there is a number of others.
If that is the worst you commited on this blog then ...not to worry!!

Oops...better check my spelling I may have made a few errors. lol

Anonymous said...

1248, Copa? can we see the list of D1 scholarship & actual dollar amounts (not just commitments as most of these usually have no $$ associated for soccer) so we can determine ROI? Also the club & age in which these girls came from prior to joining yours? Let the data speak for itself!

My bet nothing will be shown. PDA, Wildcats, MF, NJSA and others also welcome to state their case.

Anonymous said...

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

Anonymous said...

STA lost again this weekend, how many players actually left, did they go to MF and stay together as a group?

Anonymous said...

STA lost a total of 7 kids since the winter. No one left as a group.

Anonymous said...

7 is a lot of kids to leave 1 program, if that is true. Also in North Jersey there are rumors of big shake ups to Americans, NJ Crush, TSF and as we heard Stallions. Any news/details from the cabbage patch?

Anonymous said...

Anyone care to predict the fall setup,for edp,north and south first division? Several team collapses and some teams woefully out of thier league.

Anonymous said...

I think the EDL/NPL teams should be in their own division and play all the other NPL teams home and away between fall & spring and let all those games decide the team that hoes to nationals.
Other than that, if all the rumors hold true with both force teams and Americana dropping out, all the divisions will suffer. Maybe just one EDP first division without npl teams that has brick, freehold, gfa, toms river, nhp, holmdel, & stronghold maybe. Freehold could be dropped down and maybe a south team instead.
Also depends on who else makes the move in or out of edp.

Anonymous said...

Couple problems with that. Too many bad npl teams that would keep losing. Second thing is teams came to edp to play good teams. If you pull NYSC or barons out, the better non npl teams are shortchanged. They all want the chance to prove npl designation is meaningless. The home and home could still work with how it is now anyway. Npl matches are add ins if needed.

Anonymous said...

Those teams were just examples - not saying they are the only good ones.

Anonymous said...

not the previous pot stirrer, but I heard a bunch of the americans are going to Stallions. IMHO, stallions will have to break into two teams and the top team will fair pretty well.(in top tourneys but mid flight)

Anonymous said...

EDL very weak after NYSC Copa and barons. Teams such as jersey united , smithtown, , tsf, stallions simply bad,. Wildcats ok -not much better. Thes teams would be better off in EDP ....much better compettion.

Anonymous said...



Some better posts recently on this site. Still the person that keeps trying to stir the pot. Just sad.

What I find most annoying with this age group is the lack of loyalty, but it is expected, when people pay a lot of money for their child to play a sport any sport the expectations are very high. And the way most people voice their opinions on here, they judge everything on wins, bottom line. Don't be surprised when you begin to see a new wave of players at U15 - U17 that have developed and prospered on teams you didn't think were good. Many from town type teams, many from other so called academies. They are there and getting better, that is a fact. So I do agree when people state that teams will get better and some will go the other direction. Whether it be from acquiring new players from other teams or from good training, hard work and believing in a system. And many players (a lot) even very good players will walk away from the game, to pursue other interests or they may just be burned out. Of course, I am speaking in general terms, so please don't over react. Just points for debate not bashing.

The soccer world shrinks drastically over time. So good luck to all players may they all play to their potential and above. And hope they get to play at the highest level that they seek to compete in over the next several years.



Anonymous said...

Copa numero 1 !!! You will see!

Anonymous said...

7:25 another idiot clearly not from Copa. We actually started good conversations today and stopped being stupid for once... then here you are again.

Anonymous said...

Any one else smell the crap through the electronic medium???

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa copaaaaaa!

Anonymous said...

At first the COPA posts were funny now the COPA troll is just plain annoying. Not sure what COPA did to him to make him so bitter.

Anonymous said...

Get it Copa troll? We are all bored.

Anonymous said...

How about some soccer talk? What are some good summer soccer residency camps for our age?

Anonymous said...


If you want to stay in NJ, Princeton Soccer: breaks campers up into age groups

http://www.princetonsportscamps.com/camps/girlssoccer.html

All the PA colleges have good camps
St Joes & Penn are good options

Anonymous said...

Lots of chatter about teams that lost players. How about teams that picked up quality players. If so many players have left good teams, where did they all go?

Anonymous said...

Any thoughts on Region 1 odp tourney this weekend?

Anonymous said...

Based on the results from the "top NJ teams" this year in the big Tournaments I doubt we will see many in the top 2 flights next year. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

You will find that the top team in nj will not participate in these tourneys.


only ecnl.

and this team beats up on teams outside of nj.


great pre ecnl record this season


Anonymous said...

Penn Camp: Age wise U13 would be in the Advanced Academy

http://www.pennsocceracademy.com/

Villanova Camp: U13 girls would be one of the younger ones there.
http://www.totalcamps.com/VWSA

Penn State Camp: offers different age groups

http://www.gopsusports.com/camps/w-soccer-fee-registration.html

Anonymous said...

I heard yms gunners in PA. are done. It's a shame that happened. The DOC "The skipper" and his little sidekick Gilligan have all their eggs in one basket. And that basket is getting old. Spend some time with all the age groups and especially the ones thy need your attention. It's safe to say you 2 morons have no idea how to run an organization. Time to pack up and go home.

Anonymous said...

Where can I find pre ECNL results from this past spring and fall season?

Anonymous said...

The ECNL doesn't want you to know the results. You might not pay again.

Anonymous said...

What's up with NJSA 0-6 in 14th place out of 15 teams with only 1 goal scored all season & 26 against? The 1 goal they scored was against Parsippany which has given up 40 this season yikes!!!! Paying a lot of money for no improvement. You are behind Parsippany enough said. Remember when NJSA was going to compete with PDA where has that gone? NJ Force team lasted 2 years as will all these fly by night so-called academies. Match Fit is suppose to be a challenger but do far all they have done is charge more for considerably less. Wake up people as you pay for these coaches vacation & get nothing back in return but big bills. Wildcats again in 8th place with no wins for the 2nd time in the 1st division of EDP & only finished in 5th place in 2nd division last season but people but into that college full ride they promise? There should be a kvass to educate these parents & players that are being taken for a ride before it's too late. Teams like NJX, Freehold etc get bashed but they aren't charging nearly what these places are & are better!

Anonymous said...

Add Brick and TRIC to that too. I agree. Waste of money for nothing in return. Coach needs inground pool this year? Lets make the roster 22! LMAO. Gullible people.

Anonymous said...



Get your facts right, if you knew the age group, you would know that neither the Brick coach or the TRIC are paid coaches. They may grow the roster size to 22, but not padding their pockets. They will have to deal with how to keep all players and families happy with playing time, that could get ugly in a hurry.

Anonymous said...

I think you misunderstood the 9:11 post. I think it was meant as a compliment. To add Brick and TRIC to the 9:00 post about basically how town teams are better than rip-off academies. Read the last line of the 9am post, then I think you'll get it.

Anonymous said...

NJSA is a joke! All players who couldnt make it anywhere else. Just another money grab. The team is horrible and getting worse. They lost there best players and replacing with less qaulity players.

Anonymous said...

I didnt know NJX was a town team? I thought it was a low level academy?

Anonymous said...



Sorry, yes misread the post. NJX is the Middletown Fusion Red team, they moved over to the other club. Not a pure town team, maybe 6 - 8 from original team at best, maybe less next year.

NJSA or NJCSA (new name) will be better over time. They have a very good coach/trainer. They have maybe 2 or 3 good players. Rumor has it the best player is leaving.

If people are willing to pay the fee's, which are less than most teams, who cares, that is their business.

Anonymous said...

NJX is under the Holmdel umbrella. Holmdel has a town travel league and thier NJX teams are above that. They have good boys teams as well.

Anonymous said...

If you are not ECNL ,nobody cares....2ndstring.....

Anonymous said...



SJEB SJEB SJEB SJEB SJEB

BRICK BRICK BRICK BRICK BRICK

NJX NJX NJX NJX NJX NJX

TRIC TRIC TRIC TRIC TRIC

OLD BRIDGE OLD BRIDGE OLD BRIDGE

STA STA STA STA STA

PDA PDA PDA PDA PDA

MATCH FIT MATCH FIT MATCH FIT MATCH FIT

WALL WALL WALL WALL

TSF TSF TSF TSF TSF

BOCA BOCA BOCA BOCA BOCA

JACKSON JACKSON JACKSON JACKSON

WILDCATS WILDCATS WILDCATS WILDCATS

FREEHOLD FREEHOLD FREEHOLD FREEHOLD

STRONGHOLD STRONGHOLD STRONGHOLD STRONGHOLD

BRIDGWATER BRIDGEWATER BRIDGEWATER BRIDGEWATER

REAL REAL REAL REAL REAL

NJ RUSH NJ RUSH NJ RUSH NJ RUSH

FC BUCKS FC BUCKS FC BUCKS FC BUCKS

LVU LVU LVU LVU LVU

NJ STALLIONS NJ STALLIONS NJ STALLIONS NJ STALLIONS

NJ CRUSH NJ CRUSH NJ CRUSH NJ CRUSH NJ CRUSH

Anonymous said...

Is this in response to Copa Copa Copa? Very random.

Anonymous said...

11:06 - great post LOL!!! Levity is good!

To the comments about "academies", note that there are only 4 true "academies" in NJ, as designated by US Soccer:

PDA
NY Red Bulls
NJSA04
Match Fit

Red Bulls doesn't have a girls team, and NJSA04 (now merged with Cedar Stars) is allegedly dropping girls (I can't substantiate that).

So there are truly only 2 academies in NJ that offer girls programs. All the rest are just clubs - town or non-affiliated. The word "academy" is a marketing ploy to make one believe that it's better than a town team. In some cases, that may well be true, in other cases, not so.

Don't be lured by the word. "Academy" is meaningless unless you are referring to the US Soccer Developmental Academy.

Anonymous said...

Why would you believe NJSA will be better? Same trainer for a while & no results. Best player on a team that scored 1 goal is leaving & how would you tell the difference? Maybe they scored the only goal vs Parsippany? How can they possibly be selling people on stay the course & by U-18 we will win games.

Anonymous said...

Match fit already ran boys program to the ground. Horribly run organization from top to bottom. Give it 3-5 years will do same with girls. They Had this age group for three years and still can't win. How is this called great training? You can put lipstick on a pig-still a pig.,

Anonymous said...

NJSA results:
18-40-8 Got Soccer games
Fall 8th place value only 3,250pts
Wall Fall Classic semis value 1,500pts
Bethesda semis value 625
NEFC no semis value 1,750pts
Delco no semis value 2,000pts

Anything lower than 8,000pts means you aren't playing top competition so when you play at these very low flights & still don't have success how can you charge people money & convince them they are getting good training??? Clubs B teams play at these level of tournaments & do better for a lot less travel & money.

Anonymous said...

There are no academy programs on the girls side at all. PDA is part if te BOYS academy program. The US academy program wants nothing to do with the girls side which is why PDA invented ECNL.

Anonymous said...



Not using NJSA as an example. Got Soccer is a trap and kind of set up poorly. So the teams that in the top will always be in the top, the reason is that the tournaments look at these points as gospel for the most part. So it is very hard to accumulate points.

The boys side uses the academy system to separate the top players, but there are flaws there because most are pay to play. That is a major issue. Much like the ECNL, all pay to play.

Some teams will seek points by entering a lot of tournaments to acquire points the best they can, for example NJX, they played a lot of tournaments and gained points. yes they had to perform. But I think a better question is "at what cost"? to the players, too many games can put players at high risk for injury.

The boys academies only allow one game per day max, much like the PDA showcase. Are we asking to much from our daughters, tournaments are a big drain on the players

NJ Cedar Stars are not walking away from girls teams, some older teams are leaving for other organizations, probably a factor of not knowing what the future held for the girls side.

Anonymous said...

NJX & Frehold better at what else other than cost.

Anonymous said...

Post 11:54 AM

Where have you been? I'd like to say I missed ya! But I would be lying.

Anonymous said...

Question was for 9:00am, but maybe missed you too could answer.
Ya know we all be looking for BETTER ...

Anonymous said...

People, you are all missing the point about Academy teams. Do you realy honestly think the PDA/MFA/NJSA/COPA/Wildcats/NJ Stallions DOC's/coaches care about wins in EDP/NPL at U12-U13? It is all about team/player development through competition. All of these Academies are building towards U15-U18 were the games and college showcases mean a lot more for these teams and players! It has been proven over the years that these players get placed into college for soccer but also based on club reputation as well and the DOC's relationship with all of these college coaches and connections. Do you think a college coach is going to talk to Mom/Dad coach or a DOC of a club about players which already has a good reputation for sending players to play in college? Does Brick, Freehold, NJX, GFA, have any older teams that are established and proven? Wake up people as you are very ignorant or blind/jealous and just don't understand....Really, winning at U13 is that important? You will all see what happens to the town teams in the next year or two. They will not exists or will be diluted of player talent as most will leave for the Academy teams that are serious about playing in college. If you are happy about Suzy/Tom winning games now, great but the real competition and preparing for the next level starts at U15. Town teams need wins now and GS points to elevate their status/ranking and try to place in high level tournaments because that's all they can sell to their parents right now! You can bash the Academies all you want but these are the players that colLege coaches will be looking at in a few years! Again, a lot of it has to do with reputation of the club and these DOC's which most of these college coaches know and talk to on a regular basis about players! Nobody is talking to the likes of Brick, GFA, TR, NJX, Freehold, as they are not proven clubs at the older age groups! If you want to look for yourself, checkout each of the town teams I named and go to the club website...You all need to educate yourself and worry about your own child and do what is best for them moving forward. This is why PDA/MFA are ECNL teams and Copa/NJ Stallions/Wildcats/SJEB/NJ Rush are EDL and members of the National Premiere League....You don't get this recognition/status unless you have quality/proven teams/club in the U14-18 age groups. Bottom line!

Anonymous said...

Tournaments, just one of the many flaws of U.S. youth soccer. You guys talk about the "academies" being about the money? Tournaments are ALL about the money, even at the risk of our daughters' well being.
There is absolutely no developmental benefit to playing more than once in a day, other than to justify ridiculous tournament fees.
Go ahead, keep chasing those points. They'll lead you right to the emergency room.

Anonymous said...

The "club status" model is flawed and doomed to fail. Clubs cannot field competive teams in all age groups. (See the ECNL... all age groups for lopsided scores. ) Region one premier type models are then only models that actually work. TEAMS are evaluated season to season on how they do and if they will be accepted next season. You don't
perform -your out. ECNL/NPL rewards clubs- not effort. That stinks of money and payoffs to me.
As far as colleges only looking at girls from those academies ....horse manure. It is up to YOU to recruit little Sally by sending her to camps of schools she has interest in and contacting the coaches themselves. and attending college showcase tournaments (both ecnl and non ecnl have these)Even then only the top .01 percent wll get full scholarships. The remainder will get nothing or partials that have to be reevaluAted year to year. If your in this for a scholarship there is a high likelihood you will be disillusioned. By the time you realize it , it's too late. Get a tutor, not PDA.

Anonymous said...

Tournaments aren't good for the kids - but they are fun. The kids like them and it is a real team building experience. I remember thinking they were awesome when I was a kid and wishing that we could do more.

But playing 5 or 6 tournaments in a season? That is silly and irresponsible. What Got Soccer should do is average your points out - if you play 6 tourneys, they should take all points earned from those tourneys and divide by 6. That way there is no reward for putting the girls on a dangerous path... but if you do well, you still get the benefit. But Got Soccer gets paid by the tournaments to use their system - so that will never happen.

Anonymous said...

Perfect example of tournament chasing and GS point is NJX. They have not beaten 1 team in NJ Top 10and won the 2nd division of EDP and actually think they are a top 10 team in NJ. If they played in the 1st flight of EDP this spring, they would not win a game. Now with players leaving this team will drop come next year along with NJ Force team done, STA players leaving, Americans merging with NJ Stallions etc... NJX lost to GFA in the fall 7-2. I did not see a score worse than that I believe all year! That is horrible to loss 7-2. The rankings are flawed and teams chasing GS points in mid-tier tournaments of course will gain points and need them as well but does not mean by far your are a "TRUE" top 10 team in the state.

Anonymous said...

NJX did get 11pts for making finals of Marlton tournament(insert laugh track), 6th place in 2nd division EDP in Fall & finalist @ Spirit with a low flight value if 4,500pts. Not much better than NJSA they just do a lot more low flight tournaments to convince themselves they are a top team. GFA is better & they are never in a top flight except EDP South division which they may finish 5th & they destroyed NJX with those players that are leaving so Got Soccer doesn't tell the whole story. Same top teams have been for the last couple of years due to coaching, training & experience playing against top competition in the Region.

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Anonymous said...

Sorry to burst the bubble but NJX has beat or tied EVERY team in the top 10 except Force and IGFA where they totally crapped the bed no excuses. Brick, NJ Crush storm , wombats, freehold,Copa (lost 2-1 this season..beat or tied otherwise) sta, real galaxy ( As Medford too) . As far as tournaments go, who cares how many they play, they have to perform to get points.
NJX not where we want to be yet, but had a good spring and working hard to improve. Leave it be and focus on your own teams,

Anonymous said...

Scholarships?

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

Those who think academy play guarantees you... are Suckers. Especially 12-26.

Just go to college camps, most of these girls will be walk on's anyway. Just because you have "academy" on you shirt does not make you a college player.

Anonymous said...

"Clubs cannot field competitive teams in all age groups"

Why not, given time?

Anonymous said...

When have NJX beat the Barons or STA?

Anonymous said...

12:23 Freehold Soccer League is actually a pretty successful club with many players who have gone on to play in college. You just won't see it on their website because they are not looking to make a profit!

Anonymous said...

That is true but you certainly get a lot of creditability with the colleges by a being a starter on a PDA ECNL team.
And if your daughter is an impact player on one of these teams then the match is made in heaven.

While your advice on the acadamies me be appropriate for a lot of good players , it is not appropriate for the first 13-14 players of a PDA team.

These girls are going be just fine playing where they are and the experience and atmosphere of playing with a great club where the girls are learning to compete daily is priceless.


Anonymous said...

Rebuttal to Perfect example of tournament....

I believe this is the 2nd or 3rd time you brought up the NJX loss of 7-2 I am not one to cry sour-grapes nor make excuses however I need to put some info out there that maybe some may not be aware of. All but three of the NJX players had come from playing a school basketball game.
GFA and NJX played that game on 11/30/2013, that particular day the temperature was 24 degrees (record low for that day) wind 7 mph wind gusts up to 18 mph. Few, if any wore under armor both IGA and NJX. It was bitter cold that night and if I had been the coach I would have looked to postpone the match.(not a judgment on either coach)
Yes its true ....that they didn't perform as maybe they should have, or up to your high standard.
One question for you though...were you at this game?
I watched the whole game from my car as did many others. Too cold for me, burr and I worked my whole life outdoors.
I for one commend all the girls that played in the game on that night!

Anonymous said...

NJX beat Bricktown

Also beat a number of top tens from PA (including a #1), MD and VA

Anonymous said...

Mr.1226...you have no clue. Luke earlier most kids walk on at college and tryout very few come from academy development. You have no idea what connections coaches from smaller clubs have with colleges. PDA might have a label. But if calculate the number of girls that play at pda and those that actually play in college D1 the percentages are low. Keep drinking the koolaid sucker!!!

Anonymous said...

Daddy

Please stop posting. Mom has agreed to stop. You don't know that you are taking about with your posts, and everybody knows your posts by now. It is embarassing. So please stop.

Anonymous said...

"If you are not ECNL ,nobody cares....2ndstring..... "

really? Pathetic as most of the top EDP teams would trounce most ECNL teams. Just the facts.

Anonymous said...

NJX NJX NJX NJX NJX

oh yeah

COPA COPA COPA COPA COPA

who cares?

so you lost 7 - 2 on a cold night?

Who cares?

so you have beaten another team?

Who cares?

I guess you do, but why so much? they are just games? why do you takes things on this blog so personally? don't waste your time listening to the rants of JackA$$eS. You only get placed in the same boat as them.

Fast Forward 15 years, and maybe your daughter has been married for a couple of years and is expecting her first child. Your are having dinner with her and the conversation goes to soccer. It would be great to hear, "thanks for all the good times driving me to and from practices, games, etc..", "I love you MOM or DAD and I hope I can experience the same with my children". My guess would be that you wouldn't hear, "remember when we beat that team blank to blank May 28, 2014". But the way some of you seem to be living through your child's soccer experience. you will state, "yes you were the best U13 team in NJ you beat everyone, in fact, I still blog about it everyday, I'm obsessed with it!" Mom to be response, "get over it, it was fun and I enjoyed it, I don't remember our record, I had great teammates we worked hard, but we had really great times." That is the reality.

Anonymous said...

College should be academic and athletic, yes. Having the benefit of a director of coaching involved in the college process is something my daughter and I look forward to. Can't knock any team. Everyone has different plans. Town teams as they are called can only go so far with those at the wheel. Brag about their wins and their points and the number of tournaments they played in. There is nothing to offer in the upper ages so parents will do the college apps and contact coaches resulting in a mediocure school acceptance. Maybe it's me, but I'd rather my kid be sitting in a lecture hall at Princeton then Georgian Court. You are what you eat!!!

Anonymous said...

"a lot of creditability with the colleges by a being a starter on a PDA ECNL team."

I agree with this 1-8, they may get an "extra few looks" at the college camp but for most on these so called "academies" including pda encl 12-26 (most didn't play much on their town team that is why the paid to be on an academy to show the town team that they are really top player),pda b & c teams are no better than being on one of the top town teams. Imo

Also many of these u13 girls have older sisters, brothers or friends of these who may already been thru the youth soccer process, yet I never heard a story about all these scholarships? C'mon blogger lets hear some stories.

Anonymous said...



Princeton to Georgian Court. wow apples to Oranges. If you are going to Princeton your are there because your are brilliant, it starts and ends there, bad argument. You obviously didn't graduate to an ivy league school

Anonymous said...

Suzie is a soccer star and a genius. Don't you see that?

Anonymous said...

Really 4:27? So Princeton doesn't take athletes? There is much endowment at that university for the well rounded student. I'm sorry what did you say your scholastic history included? I was making a point. If you want the best for your child you do your best to put them in the situation to achieve it. DOC's=college contacts and if your child is an above average player you are going to do well. It's not gonna happen for everyone.

Anonymous said...

When you prayed for her to get your brains, you should have asked god to leave at least a little behind for you to use. It's all benefit to cost analysis. What's it going to cost - time, money, social, family relations? What are you going to get - spot on a team at no assistance, 1/4, 1/2?
Take away too much from study and becoming a well rounded individual and the other side of the equation and application suffers. More academic assistance is available, but miss the minimum scores and it probably costs more in the long run.

Anonymous said...



Didn't say they don't take athletes, but if don't have the grades or academic achievement, it doesn't matter how good of a soccer player you are, period!

now you really show how clueless you are!

Anonymous said...

She can study in the car by flashlight if necessary during our quality time traveling so far to games and practices. Friends are overrated too.

Anonymous said...

Please do,yourselves a favor and read this article belfre ypu get lost in your fantasy world of college scholarships.

http://files.leagueathletics.com/Text/Documents/2674/39833.pdf

Anonymous said...

Copa copa copa!!!

Anonymous said...

Again people get facts straight... 3 left NJX... 2 for another soccer team and 1 to bball.. But again why do you care?? Get a life!!

Anonymous said...

don't find much here of use but thank you 5:17
for tha t very informative link.
hope people can take a break from their bashing & basing or debasing & read that .
looking forward to that discussion

Anonymous said...

dad

stop


I know when you are posting.

You talk about it. And then it shows up here later.

Anonymous said...

When did NJX/Holmdel ever beat Medford? Not that it matters because it surely doesn't...I'm Just curious

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