Think Copa dad woke up and realized his club is pimping out his personal wallet for Got Soccer points? Who goes out to a "Nationals" and wins 1 game? They could do that at home. Oh wait. Ft. Dix doesn't carry as many GS points as NPL Nationals. At least PSA-IGFA won all 4 games. Oh snap! Copa's playing in US Club Nationals too. Also in Colorado. Same place. Let's hope the two week investment gets Copa Dads DD's team more wins and GS points!!Roma is #4 in NJ right now. Those GS points will lead to some serious Copa bragging rights about NJ rank despite winning 1 game. There is something seriously wrong when the #4 team in NJ can only win 1 game at "Nationals."Better to cheer on the legit than the fake.
Gotsoccer points?FC Copa played 44 games vs PDA Splash and their 33 games.orFC Copa played 10 State/Regional/National games - PDA Splash 3 gamesFC Copa played 21 EDP games vs PDA Splash playing 24 ECNL gamesFC Copa played 13 Showcase games vs PDA Splash playing 6How is this a bad thing? I see their kids having many opportunities to play minutes.
Copa played very wellMaybe SCORES guy, instead of just regurgitating from other websites, can give some insight on how Empire and Oakwood advanced over Copa.thx
9:50 Yes, I was talking about you. Why didn't we get the Saturday night update with all the teams still alive and all the days' scores? Maybe because your team was eliminated again at the "Joke National Championship"?
#4 team in NJ only wins one game at Nationals and you think that is horrible? It is Nationals for a reason, the best teams play and it is easy to play well and win no games.
Copa only gave up 1 goal in 3 games at NPL Finals. They tied for first in their group with Empire. The semifinalist was determined by pks, Empire won 6-5 after 9 rounds.
6:54 am - Why are you comparing yourself to PDA? You're not in their league.
8:56 or maybe I was in old howard beach at my cousins party for his kids part, what's your beef with that pal?9:02 I agree PDA Splash only won 1 game at national why do they get a bye? Oh because they dominated their ECNL conf vs local ECNL teams, got it.9:19 thanks for the update.10:00 Why does it make you mad - that I already proved PSA & NJ Stallions are options in NJ and If I prove Copa is also - that would be 3 NON-ECNL teams in NJ that are legit. Oh don't cry. PDA had 17 teams that could win a national title with one title -Copa still playing for 2. Don't worry plenty of $$$ to go around always a parent willing to pay.
11:01 Nailed it. Copa about winning. PDA about getting players onto nationals teams and good Division I squads. Enjoy Colorado.
Thanks 9:19Again - nice showing by CopaHaving come in second after the PKs , how did Oakwood then advance as best second place team?Copa vs GFA would have been a nice show.
Flight winnersPSA 9 ptsNVSC 7 ptsEmpire SC 5ptsbest 2nd place teamOakwood 6ptsOther 2nd place teamsFC Copa 5ptsPDA 4ptsDon't sleep on oakwood - going to be good at U16. Their current u14 teams one of the better teams in the region
9:19 What you're missing is, they only scored TWO goals in three games!!! The team that represented their division in the semis got smoked 6-0, what does that tell you?
PSA 2-0 over Oakwood in the finals. Congrats, way to represent NJ. Not sure the 9-0 game was all that classy but congrats on the title.
Coach Genius at it again with GFA. Just a genius.
Didn't wildcats win npl,then drop out so copa could back in?cant even win in nj....joke
FEEE FIIIII FOOOOOO FUUUUMM what a season fun fun fun see you next year haters!!! Nappy nap time😘
GFA NPL champs......Bring on ECNL champs and have one world champ....
10:47 I would love to see a there can be only ONE event.The below should all play in an invitational event.ECNL ChampionNPL ChampionUSCS National Cup ChampionUSYSA National ChampionUSYSA President's Cup National ChampionSuper Y National Champion
Next upNational Cup XV FinalsAurora, COJuly 22-25, 2016Group ANEFC Elite U15 G00/01Classics Elite 01 GFC Copa RomaCleveland United WhiteGroup BBayside FC Bolts Red Npl 00/01OCYS 00/01g PurplePittsburgh Riverhounds Development AcademyManhattan SC Crew
New debate... NJ TeamsWho is the best coach that has worked in this age group? Past or present? If you asked your daughter who her favorite coach was ever... Who would she say? Put the team number below at the start of your reply. 1 - GFA2 - SJEB3 - STA4 - Stallions5 - Copa6 - NJ Elite 7 - Brick/WildcatsCoaches don't get enough credit... Let's hear it for the coaches!
Followed byUS Youth Soccer National ChampionshipsFrisco, TXJuly 26-30, 2016Group AFC Pride 01 EliteCUP Gold 00/01FC Salmon Creek Nemesis 00 EllertsonHBC Impact 00Group BMidwest United FC 01 RoyalSunrise Sting 00/01Dallas Kicks SC 01Campton United Navy
oh forgot 8. PDA9. Match fitLet's hear it for the coaches
Let's not start trouble with that. It is about the girls . You are just a troll with an agenda, you are trying to find an angle of attack. The administrator has been pay attention to all you write . Finally.
@July 19, 2016 at 8:15 AMThat'a great questions but here is my list based on what you have:NJ Elite- coach has had majority of those girls since U10 and are some of the top players in the age groupSJEB- same thing! That group has been together for a long time and has been one of the best teams in the state for a long time.COPA- coach seems to have a knack for finding and developing talent. They never slip too far in the rankings and always remain relevant.Brick/Wildcats- I put them in the same category as SJEB.STA- If it is the female coach I think she's great. Former player who understands the game and works well with the girls. Everybody who's ever had her as a coach never stops raving about her.Stallions- most of this team was the former Americans who had an excellent coach. Can't give this guy too much credit for developing anybody but this team is always relevant and very good.IGFA- this is the best team in the state regardless of what your opinion is but that man is not a coach. He cannot run training sessions and has always used trainers to develop those girls.
Lol see? Expected. Ok now you put the question out and you answered . hope you are happy for having achieved the goal of your miserable day.lol
855amYou are clueless,can tell you are new.The best coach at this age was Big Bird,may have been a tool,but the best coach....
8:55 past or present... Not just present
Really?? The Wildcats in the same breath as SJEB? You must be thinking of the original Brick team, or you're nuts.
NPL is not close to the ECNL. GFA has no business playing the Slammers without getting through FC Stars, West Coast, Concrde Fire, Top Hat, PDA etc.
PDA has no business with the team's you mentioned. They did poorly in national ecnl finals.
Every coach above IGFA runs their own training sessions. They don't hire trainers. They personally have developed their girls. Can IGFA coach say the same? No! He's a manager, not a coach. If you think managing and coaching are the same thing then you need to learn about sports in general. Again, that post did not knock the IGFA team. It is a great team and probably best in state in that age group but the question was about who had the best coach. Not which owner spends the most money.
7:59 we got it, all good, you achieved your goal of the day. You can be happy , got your fix of the day. Now you only have to find another question so you can answer yourself to manage to trash that coach again tomorrow. I am sure you will find something. You always do. Unfortunately.
1. My daughter plays on IGFA. She has never been trained by anyone except the current coach with the exception of a very few practices that he has had to miss. She has developed into a player far beyond what we ever thought she had in her. He trains them and he coaches them as a team.I am not sure where you are getting your information.2. GFA plays in NPL because as we all know they are not eligible to play in ECNL. However they take every opportunity to play in tournaments where they face those top ECNL teams. Sometimes they win, sometimes they don't but the competition is always good.Look at the results of the PDA showcase. Say what you want, but this is a talented group, coach included. NPL is the best league for teams that don't have the option to play in ECNL. So this team won the national title for the league that they play in.That deserves criticism?3. If there was a one trick pony, they could not succeed in all that they do, often without key players. They are a team. More so than any team that my daughter has ever played on.4. No idea what your issue is, but the above are facts from the inside.5. No one knows for sure who will dominate next year. Remember, the current U16s will be losing their 99s. Regardless though of where GFA will fall, this coach has them hungry for the challenge. That's a huge win.
I have no idea why IGFA get slaughtered on here all the time. The highest league they can play in is the NPL...so they won the NPL National Championship. That is a good thing...no?? They are not eligible to play in the ECNL...but we all know how that goes. They do however play the top ECNL & non-ECNL teams all of the time at tournaments. And they win against those teams more than they lose. And yes...they have done this, for the most part...without all of their key pieces for these games. The coach does a tremendous job and the girls work hard and has shown depth. It should be applauded...not belittled. I listed some results against the "best of the best". Pretty impressive:PDA Splash - 3-1 (W)World Class ECNL - 1-0 (W)FC Stars ECNL - 4-5 (L)CASL ECNL - 2-1 (W) Cincinnati Cup - 0-4 (L)Bethesda ECNL - 1-4 (L)Dallas Kicks - 1-0 (W)Penn Fusion - 2-1 (W)Bethesda ECNL - 2-1 (W)Cincinnati Cup - 2-0 (W)and a 4-2 overall record against HBC.7-3 against those teams is not too shabby.
7:37 PDA has poor coaching at this age group. U16 coach is among the best anywhere.
12:56 Great list. Impressive. Congrats to IGFA. Great run and year!
Gotta admit those are pretty good results versus the supposed best of the best. In fact, of the three losses they have, they avenged them and beat the team the second time around. Pretty impressive.
12:56, 10:18, 1:46 = All the same person. Keep talking to yourself, Nobody else cares.
2:03...WRONG. I wrote one of them and not the other two.
PSA GFA self-bragging & delusional parents...
6:28 I don't brag and I am far from delusional. However, when you post inaccurate and offensive information/comments, I do defend. That's normal. You have the axe to grind and it is getting so very old.
July 21, 2016 at 7:09 PMMaybe you dont brag but you do post inaccurate information as it only show you playing HBC 5x not 6x with a 3-2 record with 2 straight losses. you posted you are 4-2 against them.
Yes cause won two games vs them, 4-1 and 5-2 and lost two games 1-0. And know that nobody cares . Apparently only you. So this is just to answer to your wrong statement .
Who cares, yesterday's news, new season coming up new rosters, a new pecking order will be determined and no one will care about 2016.
July 22, 2016 at 2:58 PMyou wrote something i checked it and you were wrong. the team is good on its own you don't need to inflate their record to make your kids team look better. Just for the record i couldn't find a 4-1 game, are you incorrect about that too?
10/19 4-2 ( you are right not 4-1)3/14/2015 Jeff cup 2-05/2/2015 5-1 ( you are right is not 5-2)Then two loss 1-0 the resent games.Again nobody cares , only you but you are right we need to have the right Infos.
July 22 @ 12:44. This is 7:09. For the record, I did not post the wins and losses
July 22, 2016 at 4:50 PMI'm sorry that I questioned you. why don't we just say that PSA is 100-0 against the uswnt? Funny that the "mistakes" you made were ones that made your team look better. I would have made the same post if you had mistakenly posted that you were 2-3 against HBC or what ever team and you were actually 3-2. The point is that you were intentionally inflating the stats to benefit your case and you got busted...DON'T DO THAT!
1:26 I am starting to worry that you are actually disturbed. "DON"T DO THAT" ? I really don't think that reporting on 4 vs 5 games is that big a deal. We get it, they lost that game. I don't really think that one game is going to change one person's opinion of PSA good or bad. I do think your obsession with it is more cause for concern.
Don't lie about scores to make your team look better. Btw you want to include your pda games when you know both Bethesda and Cup had multiple top players away that weekend for other soccer commitments. You played shells of those teams. That will show when Cup beats HBC in the nationals. You have a good team everyone would agree, it's the dopey parents like you that make the team unlikable.
This person is really envious. Shell of a team? Really who are you really. It sad that you know more about Gfa then your daughters team. Players miss all the time. It's about how deap is your bench. Your the cunt who relentlessly begins the agitation and is not happy until Gfa breaks up as a team. Your fixated on everything this team does. All the chances to confront us to have a legit discussion yet you hide behind the blog over and over again. I'll be more than happy to rub some vagisil all over you to soothe your irittability.
Mod: kill 7:25 please. Offensive and clearly unnecessary word used. TY.
I have said time and time again that the team is a very very good team. I think a parent like you does the team a major disservice, due to your insecurity about the team, that you would feel the need to put fake or inaccurate stats out to inflate their standing. Their record spoke for them in a very high regard until you had to go cheapen the accomplishments by trying to make the record look better by lying. In doing so, you now open the record up to scrutiny. You seem to think the comments are in some way about the girls when in fact they have carried themselves very well. A previous poster stated that they handled themselves very well in defeat as well. The comments were directly related to your need to falsify a record that was damn good on its own accurate merit.
Winning the NPL is like winning the triple a baseball league. No one cares.
You are very sad individuals. What are you going to do after your child is done playing. You will have nothing to feed your superiority complex. You are extremely shallow and most of us pity your childish behavior. Your soccer life is nothing without your daughter and she is moving on in the very near future. You will need to get a grip on reality very soon - you have done nothing and you are not the superstar. If your daughter wasn't touring with the national team, neither is she no matter what league she is in.
Is this how it goes?"But mommy and daddy don't care if that's not the school that you want or if they offer your major - we spent so much money so we could brag about you playing division 1"
Couple points here. Bethesda top players were at PDA and played in our game.They left after the game and still made it to National training. We all have players missing at events, but we don't come on here to explain to you. Our girls are taught to win as a team and lose as a team. Until ECNL or any league figures out how to include all the top teams and weed out the less competitive, there will be other leagues that have strong teams. No one really argues that the ECNL league has the majority of the best teams and we grab every opportunity to face those teams. Win, lose or draw it is always a competitive game.We are not given the choice to play in ECNL, so we play in NPL. We win NPL Nationals. That's an accomplishment and pretty sad that you put that down. There are good teams and players in that league. Players choose to stay with a team and a coach or stay away from a team or coach.Some may not be geographically near an ECNL team, there are so many reasons. I believe you when you say that the UNC coach only mentioned ECNL, but I assure you he has NPL players on his radar. These coaches are at our games and that is a fact. I wish your daughter the best of luck and assure you mine is just fine and very proud that she just won a national title
Wrong, guess again. But doesn't matter who.Those are facts and valid points.
Can we stop talking about IGFA on this blog already? Their season is done and they are moving on to U17 so please continue this childish back-and-forth on the U17 blog. I am so glad my child is a 2001 so I don't have to read this trash anymore.
Once college is over PDA is Players Done Also. ECNL means nothing for your career and life especially if you focus on the wrong priorities. If you think NPL girls can't and won't bump your daughter, you are foolish - wake up. Arrogance and self centered talk will work against you in the long run. You have no idea what the coaches motivations and it needs are. Your daughter will always be challenged by those you don't expect.
ECNL is the problem behind US soccer. Money Talks. Everyone else walks. If you don't have money than you can't play.ECNL does have very good players. But it only includes those who can afford its hefty cost and travel expense. Until this changes ECNL only includes part of the talent in the USA . It's a system built on $$$$
So sick of psa/gfa .Let me ask a serious question to the owner or owners.IF you claim to be a great coach,why do we never hear about any of your other teams.I looked them up and it's scary how bad they are.To me doesn't say much about the owners.
Look at the PSA GFA travel for the last year and compare it to PDA. Do you really believe GFA parents paid less than PDA ones?
GFA coach has only been doing this a couple of years. To be clear, I am not suggesting it will become PDA, but you need to look back not that far to see when PDA did not even have teams at every age. Let the dust clear with the birth year and DA and let's see where this club is at in 5 years. I believe you will see a lot of strong players come out of there consistently. Time will tell.
10:34The 2 sisters who are forwards were not there. I was watching the game and talking to the parent administration for Bethesda. Once again you need to lie to make a really good team seem better. Why do you do that? You are not helping them in fact you are hurting them. DON'T DO THAT! You should put your crayon away and step away from your keyboard.
The DONT DO THAT poster has some serious issues. Jealous party of 1 your table is ready.
Self righteous and condescending come hand in hand with superiority complex. They are ECNL (actually their daughter is but whatever) and therefore they are Elite in every way.
Bethesda sisters played in the game vs GFA. Not sure what game you watched. The bigger question would be why watch a team that you do not like?
I said time and again I like the team very much! You are the problem with your kids team. Your head is spinning 1st you incorrectly assumed I was from hbc so you started bashing them. When you realized im not with them you jumped on the ECNL theory and once again your wrong. Maybe I am with a college and was asked to evaluate some parents to see if a certain coach would want to deal with certain players based partially on that kids parents behavior. You would really be hurting your kid.
Yes college coaches often hire crazy anonymous bloggers to guess (incorrectly by the way) who they are talking to and pass on a player based on a guess. As far as liking the team, you only recently changed your tune on that because you couldn't find support on here to trash the team so now you are onto the parents which is preferable anyway. Leave our hard working and respectful girls alone. I only defend on here when you try to stir the pot. Now can we move on from you freaking out over someone misreporting one stat that made all the difference in your mind to something more general. Can we talk about the National event in Colorado without trashing the teams and competition? Anyone have any feedback on ID camps?
WILDCATS _ WILDCATS _ WILDCATS _ WILDCATS
Only one player from NJ on the U15 Girls National team to compete in CONCACAF tourney in August. congrats to her, hope she plays well!
Now there's a dose of reality. One girl. That is a tremendous accomplishment and everyone in NJ should wish her well. I bet those ECNL elitists have an excuse why they didn't pick their daughter though. It's all coming to an end very quickly. Cherish the time and work on happy thoughts instead of petty jealousy and bitterness. You are not the best no matter what your team (yes it takes a whole team) has done. One girl. And a tougher road ahead as the age groups expand on the national teams. Stop the hate and fighting and speak out for the beauty of the sport. If you can't come here for a good debate and discussion, just go away and cry in private how you were robbed at the ID Camp. We won't miss you for a minute.
Its a rigged system!!!!!
Definitely rigged for those who have the money, networking and political connections to push and pull strings. It was and has never been about working and making a break through. It's now about who and what you know not about how you play. Her talents and abilities are equal to many players in Nj and across the region. If you want to congratulate the efforts of a rigged system then by all mean wish her well. But believe me I have seen her play and there is nothing that really stands out except Slick's connections and his ability to weasel around and get his daughter looks. The networking that all of us lack because we were never national soccer players. It's not to say that she is not talented but to say that she is the only NJ player capable of playing at the national is as bad saying that ECNL is the only route to D1 schools. Yes she is a great player from NJ but she is not alone.
I say it's Rigged also how can 2 players in Hawaii able to get identified with the lack of competition there unless parents have enough $ to fly back and forth to the states to attend training events with scouts there. There many players missed in the system for them to narrow it down to 18 at such a young age.
Wow - you're back?Flaming the Hawaii girls when you dont even know how good they are.Priceless.(By the way, if it was by association, more of a chance that they would be from Hawaii SURF, not the club they are with)
5:46If you are choosing the BEST New Jersey player at (last year's) U14, would it be her?Please - no need to name anyone else - just a yes or no.
Are any of us really an authority on choosing the best. So many nuances that no one on here even if you played 25 years ago in college are qualified to make. She is a great player and it is up to the national coaches to decide if she is what they need and if she possesses something that their #2 choice did not.
Speed, strength, poise, vision....Please add to the listCoachability, maybe.......There are 2-3 players I feel that could possibly challenge the mentioned player for top in NJ, using last year's U14 age cutoffLets not forget some U14s were playing up at U15
Like slick said a few post back,any number of girls from gfa could have made it,if given a fair shot.
The New Jersey kid is listed as a Matchfit player who is slick? And how is she attached to her?
Slick is the coach of the best team in in nj,just ask him
He's the Matchfit coach?
Slick is the dad of the player who made the u15 national roster. She was at GFA, then Matchfit now at PDA.
Superior now that's hilarious
OK, here is the college Division 1 athlete, 99% of the time:1 - Leadership skills2 - Does not mouth off, Yes coach, no problem coach3 - Works hard, shows up to practice on time4 - Does everything they can to win, every time5 - Decent grades, certainly not failing or C or below6 - Well liked, character, social skillsWhen we as parents watch a game, it is obvious who the player is on the field who is the best and does what they can to win each game as per number 4. The rest is figured out by talking with athlete, prior coaches, parents and seeing them train and work out with team at ID camp, ODP or within club. Everything else is BS, these are the top 6 that separates the packs. please let me know what you think and if I missed any Major points.
Its rigged against a team like gfa,we have far better players and coaching, look at the record,beat the top teams in region 1 and the country. ...slick
Nobody on GFA is in the class of Ms ScarpelliPeriod.I am not associated with any of their clubs.
By the way, the best GFA player may be one who just got there.
Why, because all the really good players left? If every running car on the lot is sold, the broken down junker is the best car on the lot.
If your DOC and club are not promoting you successfully to those that matter, who is to blame? Think logically. I have no doubt they are doing everything they can to be able to land a player on the national squad to be able to use it to promote themselves forever. The younger national team trainers and coaches also have a very vested self interest in putting the best girls on the field for their own future. Maybe it's just that your kid really isn't good enough to make the cut. Crying it's rigged is foolish.
not the previous poster but I dont think it's "riggged" but it certainly favors certain clubs and DOC's and it is "foolish" to say that doesnt exist. Do you think the kid in question would have been chosen or even discovered if she remained on her original team?(not even talking about GFA) If she's that good why did she feel the need to change clubs like a pair of socks until she got to wear the 3 letters and the light blue kit.Hasn't a main thread on this blog been about the exposure the ECNL gives girls? Last i saw (unlike the upcoming DA's)all ECNL clubs fees are 3-5K a season, and thats not including travel from Florida to San Diego to Pheonix to Virgina.(10-15K by the time the end of season comes) Does that not right off the bat doesn't that give a preference to those who can economically and geographically afford/locate such a club?
Agree with person posting the reasons above, very accurate about character and integrity, many girls at this age are skilled, have killer instinct, so how to separate. yes, NT player is going to Penn State, many parents on this blog I am sure know them, and/or daughter knows her. Full ride, so that is the end story with this player. Great education, great school, for free, take the $200K and buy a vacation home and Porsche.
People need to stop equating ECNL with PDA. PDA is a top club in the country like it or not. There are many weak ECNL clubs that are not respected a few of them in this area. Everyone seems to think ECNL is a golden ticket and it simply is not. Do some research outside of PDA where 2016 and 2017 players on these other ECNL teams have committed. Not so impressive
What are you saying?Of course PDA is equated with ECNL, when your DOC is on the board of directors why wouldnt they be.When there has been a long rumored history of Mike O'Neil himself blocking other NJ clubs of joining the ECNL so PDA would be the one of the few Golden tickets of youth soccer in the area, why wouldnt they equate the two?By admitting "weaker/less respected clubs in the area" doesnt that make his own clubs stock rise as a result?Youth soccer is a huge business and is as corrupt as any other.BTW, anytime you can get school paid for by playing a sport...yes, I think that is impressive. Not everyone wants to play for PSU, UNC or UVA. If your kid has other goals(after the 4 years of college soccer), who are you to say their college choice are not impressive?
The point is that most ECNL parents believe it is the only way into these top programs. My point is not to commend the DOC at PDA but simply to state the fact that PDA has clout and that they are a top ranked club nationally like it or not. To that point all other ECNL teams ride the coattails of that reputation when in reality they are not necessarily well respected and do not have any more pull with top college programs than many other clubs outside of ECNL. To your point that some girls do not want the top programs, I agree but the majority of parents at ECNL clubs are there looking for a way into the top college programs. Just read these posts for back up on that. That was my point
What non ECNL clubs in region 1 are consistently sending kids to YNT camps and Power 5 conferences?
ECNL clubs do not send players to YNT and Power 5 Conferences. Players with the talent for YNT and Power 5 Conferences pass through ECNL clubs on their way to their destination. If ECNL did not exist, the same players would still be going to YNT and Power 5 Conferences.
Ah but then why do they all "pass through" as you say? Why go there at all if other teams provide the same development and exposure opportunities. If there is no advantage to ECNL participation for these players then why aren't they more evenly distributed across teams. Why do many of the non ECNL players become DP on ECNL teams? The answer is that they are directed both by the USSF in the case of national players and their college coaches after they commit for the other top players.
Its not the same guy
If you have the time to be on this board, you have the time to watch it. You might even learn more watching to than reading here.
GFA still the best team in the state
And you are just the idiot troll that wants everybody to trash this team . And as usual you want to provoke a reaction with your stupid statements. Grow up and focus on your daughter. You are an idiot but still a father.now go ahead and provoke some more. We all know your game. Boring.
Season is now done. Time for all teams to change an adapt to new age groups next year. Now go enjoy the rest of the summer, pray none of our daughters get hurt during the terrible high school season and then let the games begin again in November under the new format and by April 2017 we will know who the best teams are in the new age group.
Happy New Year! Welcome 2002s. Unfortunately, there isn't much of summer left. Classes start in three weeks for many. School ball practice starts in less than three weeks for many. And, Spirit Kick-off is three weeks away for the U15s, and it looks like a packed field.
Dude I think you are on the wrong page. YST didn't roll forward yet and when they do the u14 board becomes u15 - they should just rename their boards to the birth year
Good luck to those attempting to do high school and club simultaneouslyIt was worth it, but not easy
I don't know which is worse - a long boring off season or a high school season. Can't help but look forward to "games" but then get so disappointed at both the level of play and stupidity of the so called tactics. Such a let down every time.
8:16 - So because your kid plays club soccer, you're now some sort of soccer genius who knows everything about tactics? Some of you people are so laughable.
9:06 must be a high school coach. Nothing wrong with high school soccer as long as you realize the vehicle that it is. Something that is there to instill pride while playing with peers from your own district. Night games are fun as parents cheer when your daughters name is announced and even more so if they win. Yeah the level of play is not good, but its a rite of passage, so enjoy it.
Some of it is good. Much of it not so much.Some of these kids mature incredibly within 3-4 months.
11:11 - Nope, just funny to sit back and watch some people make fools of themselves on this blog thinking they actually know more about soccer than the people that coach it, most of whom played their whole life including college. Some admittedly are in over their head but most know the game and are only working with what they have. On one hand a person will complain that the talent level sucks in HS and then in the next sentence say the coach doesn't know what he's doing. Maybe it's because he/she is playing with the roster he has and there's not much they can do about it. The funny thing is, the complaining is more than likely coming from a parent of kid playing for a top level club which they think automatically makes them a genius of the game.
SAME LOSER LAST 15 POSTS CHRIST GO GET A BREAKFAST SANDWICH OR SPANK YOUR HAM YOU ARE A WEIRD CREEPER.
6:14 is a perfect example of the lunacy on this board.
Hey Admin roll up your boards or start them from scratch - it's turning into the wild west - nobody knows where to post. Anyway I want to defend GS for a second to all that call it a joke. It's going down the right path and has manually created the below. It looks like the only events they haven't created are the events that have asked to be excluded. Leagues manually created:2016 Club Champions League 2016 Region I Champions League ECNL 2015/2016 Conference Standings Tournaments manually createdUSYSA National Championship 2016 2016 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships 2016 US Club Soccer National Cup USCS Mid-Atlantic Regional USCS Southeast Regional2016 ECNL National FinalsNPL Finals
Got soccer does not manually create the tournaments. If the tournaments want to use their own software to manage tournaments they can but if the tournament wants to be reported in gotsoccer as well the tournaments must submit he information to gotsoccer in their format. Gotsoccer will not proactively go out and create tournaments in their software.
So is this the 2001 board?
12:11 wait one second - are you telling me the ECNL wants to be included in GS by submitting the data in their format? WOWWhere are all the ECNL doesn't need GS people now? So I guess then GS is not so evil after all.WOW great info 12:11
There will max 2 DA's in each state. You crap clubs thinking your getting a DA is a joke. PDA has one already and MF the other, everyone else is looking in from out!
False. CA has more than 2.
@2:50 - is that how you read it re the GS Points and ECNL? That ECNL will be relying on the GS tally system?? I read it that any tourneys that they participate in that also use GS, then the ECNL will also use that system of tallying, too. I highly doubt that ECNL will give a second thought about GS. Unless it is anticipating using it when the DA rolls around as some NPL teams will be moving into ECNL.Several yrs ago one of the USSF coaches that was present at an ID camp my kid was invited to attend told the parents that they don't give a hoot about GS points and neither do high level soccer programs. And, in my experience, I have found that to be true. Then, some club coaches and parents (and kids) use GS points as a measuring stick...well we should beat this team because they aren't ranked as high as such and such. Then, they get beat and think they didn't play well. No. No everyone cares about GS points. In prior years, maybe had merit, but now, not so much. I know kids in teams that are ranked very high in either in their state, region or nationally via GS. Guess what? Can't get the top coaches to their games. I know teams that are ECNL and have not very good GS ratings (because in showcase tourneys the objective is to get everyone playing time and also in different positions to show versatility...not a win). These teams (in ECNL) have coaches from top programs coming and watching their practices and regular league games not just showcase. As a fellow soccer parent, I would suggest that you spend your money wisely. Go to good tournaments where many coaches will have interest in attending; not just tournaments to collect points. It's your money; make sure it is well spent. Coaches want to see good soccer with good teams and good development. The wins are not as important as the overall play and style of play.
If a team doesn't win they're not going to be at a any good tournaments or at least not in good brackets. GS is a tool. It's far from perfect but it can be used carefully. What other options are there?
1:19 Well if the previous post is valid - the only way the ECNL league and playoffs gets into GS is if they the ECNL format their feed the way GS wants it. That would mean the ECNL does acknowledge GS as a ranking tool. If they didn't give it a second thought they would do what PDA is - none of their tournaments are in GS getting points.Of course the coaches don't give a hoot about GS points they care about the players they need to fill positions. Why would anyone think they would care? GS is a measuring tool to measure the team results. Now if you have teams that have multiple accounts see PDA, EM and a few others and tournaments see PDA that don't want to be included of course the numbers are skewed, but by no fault of GS. I bet these kids that can't get coaches to their games as you say still go to college and play for good schools and get an education out of it also, you are not saying only ECNL does? are you?As a soccer parent we don't pick the tournaments, we just pay the bills and rack up the miles. The kids play where they are wanted - some have choice and some don't. I don't think Bethesda, WAGS, CASL, Disney, Jefferson & FC Delco are tournaments that you play to rack up points. So if teams go to these events do well at them get GS points that is a bad thing right? How is that a bad thing? Most top ECNL teams are at these events it's not the team that wins fault the ECNL team's didn't. It's not GS's fault the ECNL showcases don't provide a feed.What gets me is that you think because a team is ranked high by GS they don't play good soccer and that doesn't surprise me since putting a label as a point chaser on a team makes them less attractive right? and the parents on those teams should look to move their kids to an ECNL club since they don't chase points and play at the same events they just don't place to get the points otherwise they would be GS point chasers.My kid plays club soccer within the region with a chance to play nationally if they do well. The team plays in high level showcase event and ODP is there also that offers a regional and national track. So yes I will spend money and throw it away on the track that kid is a part of just like you do for your kid. PS. Our kids might even be on the same college team that's the funny thing.Enjoy because they will be on their own in another year or two far from home
I am not saying ECNL is the only path to college for soccer players. Not at all. Each kid needs to find where they want to be.But, I am saying that GS points are not the way to judge a team. And no parents should buy into hey we have to go to this tournament to get points and up our ranking in Got Soccer. Years ago I read an article that said that sometimes mediocre teams can seem better because they have garnered a lot of got soccer points. Surely there are holes in the system. I just don't see ECNL buying into GSP (as someone above stated). It's completely unnecessary for their current business model.I am saying spend your money wisely. Go to good tournaments.
@3:56 - i can only go by what I have been told by the parents of the teams as far as coaches not coming to games. I am just saddened for them.
Rumor has it that Cedar Stars girls were granted the u16 and u18 GDA. Is that true??? This was from an online article on 8/4 relating to Cedar Stars' Tinton Falls facility.
7:04 isn't that what I'm saying - a team goes to WAGS, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jefferson and Delco if they are good they will be in the top flights and place meaning they will rack up the "GSP" how does this make them a bad team and a got soccer point chaser? and why does this mean they can't play soccer? How is this money not spent wisely?You say go to good tournaments - I just listed a bunch that top non-ecnl teams go to. So they shouldn't place this way they are not labled GSP chasers by posters like you?
9:47 - I am not trying to get into a thing. I am saying, I don't see ECNL getting into GSP. And, as far as those tourneys, i am not talking about them. I think they are nice tourneys. And, yes, points earned are points earned (as provided by the tourney). And, as I explained how ECNL views many of those tourneys. Many send teams that are not the full team (playing with composite teams, where they sit their commits, or where they play kids in different positions or give many kids playing time that may not see as much otherwise). I think it is a great thing. And, as GSP don't matter. So, hardly a GSP chaser. My kid's team didn't go to WAGS, Bethesda, Disney or Delco. We go to the ECNL events. And as someone pointed out, none of them use Got Soccer as a ranking system (PDA, Stanford, Texas, San Diego [Seattle last year], MD, etc.). All of the results go into the overall league tally and as a result of those, it is determined where the teams will play at nationals, if eligible. And, eligibility is based on overall records/head to head play. This is why I don't see ECNL going GSP. It doesn't fit their model.
Please know I think that teams that enter those tourneys, play in the top brackets and do well are very good. I am not saying they are a bad team at all. Quite the contrary. I was with a program yrs ago that would look for tourneys to enter just for points. Totally not worth it.
@ 8:31 - I don't see them mentioned. http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/06/30/19/42/160630-development-academy-us-soccer-announces-first-25-clubs-for-girls-development-academyhttp://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/07/09/01/09/160709-girls-development-academy-wave-2
Nothing official about Cedar Stars Girls getting DA, but this is what I came across.http://tworivertimes.com/soccer-academy-coming-to-tinton-falls/
from that article "At NJCSA, parents do not pay anything for boys on the U-18 and U-16 academy teams. NJCSA has applied for the Girls Developmental Academy, so starting next year U-18 and U-16 girls academy teams at NJCSA will also be free. This does not mean that every team within NJCSA is free, there are still a number of pre-academy boys teams, and girls’ teams outside the Development Academy and parents can expect to pay around $1600-$2400 for the entire season."If this is true why did the Manalapan team leave?
@8:22 That is interesting.
NJCSA did not get an academy status on the girls side. Only PDA/Sky Blue and Match Fit on the girls side in NJ.
The article in two river times is just about the facility. The will not be part of the girls academy group in the first go round, maybe in the future.......
Gotta love it. The article only states that it was applied for (GDA). However, it does not appear it was granted.
More GDA spots will be awarded/announced soon.
I thought the final round was coming out early next year/end of this year. Good to know.
Mfa doesn't have their own facilities. How did they get da?
Well, obviously you have been misled.Have you ever seen in print, "an organization cannot be a develppment academy unless they have their own complex"?No. Just that facilities are considered as part of the process.Where will Match Fit Academy DA practice/play? Do you even know?
We played MFA at a local college facility. Many do that. Played FC Mass Stars at BU, and CT FC was at Yale. I think that they need to have access to very good facilities. And, they do.
Where are the people that killed the teams that scored a bunch of goals?U.S. U-15 Girls National Team routs Trinidad & Tobago 22-0
I'm not one of them, but I think it's ridiculous to have run the score up like that. Only a 1-0 result today against Mexico, so clearly the scoring at will doesn't translate over against a better team. I guess they all got their goals while they could....
Why crush like that especially T&T? Those girls have very little support from country already. If the overall objective is to not only train the US kids, but grow the sport internationally, then this is not the way to get that to happen. And, these are kids and young ones at that not pros. After 10 were scored, maybe just practice possession, patience and other technical items.
Whoops, sorry. I thought it was a friendly.
Yeah, but still...
Now that NJ.com has closed their Soccer Boards, where is everyone going to post tryouts, training, people looking for teams etc.?
http://www.njyouthsoccer.comMight want to start here? Maybe reach out and explain your concerns. Surely, they will help the NJ teams find a new home for posting informative soccer items.
A lot of debate between ECNL and non-ECNL being the best path or equal paths. As someone who has seen it from outside ECNL as well as inside ECNL there also seems to be a wild card. And I know I will get grief but there is also a High School link. If you look at the recruiting websites that list college commits in the area the younger the commit and the higher the College you will see that the player attends one of the more elite private schools. And ECNL teams are beginning to align with these "Main Line" academies. You will also see assistant ECNL coaches that are assistant or even head coaches at colleges around the region. GSP in some way are legit in that the points are awarded based on the supposed level of competition. If there are at least 4 flights and your team plays in the top flight the points received are legit. But College coaches are not specifically looking at that. And for the most part you will not see and ECNL team compete in Non-ECNL events. The exception is CASL/Bethesda/PDA which have ECNL specific flights.
PDA is an ECNL event opened to non-ECNL teams as well. The non-ECNL teams complete against each other. Nothing is reported for GSP as it is an ECNL event. If I can add re another not accurately stated item, I happen to have a daughter in the ECNL and attending a private academy (on the Main Line), there is no aligning with ECNL. It is that my daughter (who happens to have a genius iq) opted to go to a college prep school, too. She likes the challenge of high level soccer and high level academics.
August 11, 2016 at 8:22 PMReally, that is your argument against a noticed trend? People like you are why team synergy fails. I guess she has her IVY already on speed dial?
She was recruited by the Ivy's, too, yes. I meant to add that there are others on her team that are not ECNL. So, because kids that want to play high level soccer at high level programs (many of which require very good grades, too), how is that a trend?
And, her teams (club and high school) have wonderful chemistry & synergy. They all seem to respect each as players and people.
I agree with the above poster. There is no exclusivity with prep schools and soccer [girls and boys/no ECNL in boys' yet]. Many prep schools have great athletics in other sports too, including boys (no ECNL in boys, yet) such as lacrosse, field hockey, tennis, golf, swimming, diving, baseball, football, squash, water polo, and more. Usually the facilities at a prep school are high level as are the academics.
If your daughter is playing ECNL and going to a Main Line prep school, the trend is that other affluent parents like yourself will do or are doing the same thing. If your daughter is playing for Continental and going to a Main Line school, its probably more about her intelligence and your money and not really about her soccer ability. But hats off to the parent that can do it and they are to be admired.
Sounding more and more like npl public school kids even with great grades and sats should just bag it Why bother?
Well, never said Continental, did I?
Nonetheless, any STUDENT (in a prep school or otherwise) that can handle actually juggle high level soccer (ECNL, NPL, USYS) and high level academics should be admired.
1st major WAGS Applied list Girls U16PA/NJ/NYE teamsCapital United SC Blue ForceLaGrange Soccer Club RageNew York SC Elite G01 SapphireFC Bucks North Shockers NPLHFC Ready 2001Hamilton Elite FC - Academy AvalancheNJ Wildcats Fury-NPL
And, like other soccer programs, Continental has many wonderful players in many prep school/academies, too.
August 11, 2016 at 9:30 PMHopefully they will get the coaching right.
August 11, 2016 at 8:59 PMPay to play.....
9:55 - of course. I'm @8:22; etc. Although, my daughter doesn't play for Continental, they are still a good club with good players.
9:04 - How about PF and Westtown?
There is no real synergy there. Westtown is the closest private school to PF. They have great facilities and are expensive. There are several Westtown school kids who play for PF, just as there are several from DT west/east and from all three of the west chester public schools. Throw in GV and local catholic schools, and probably you have a third of the ECNL kids. Yes there might be a tie-in to financial ability, but logistics explain most. I can tell you Penn Fusion wants kids that can play first and pay a close second; many of those kids not by sheer chance, attend the westtown school.
9:04 - nope. There are many ECNL gals that play in private schools as well as non-ECNL gals and same for non-private schools. When my daughter started private school, she was not in ECNL. So, no great strategy to get ECNL kids into private schools. Just like playing in the different leagues are choices, so are school settings.
Oh and by the way, in the Main Line & Philly/suburban area, there are a bunch of private schools. More private schools than public or catholic. It is rich with great education opportunities. That is the driving force, not soccer or more specifically, ECNL. I could care less if my kid played high school ball.
So you pay school taxes and tuition? Geez public schools in PA are that bad
Not saying that, but private schools have other options that most schools (public or catholic) in any state don't have; including outstanding athletic facilities.
Some of these schools have been in the business of education since the colonial times. You are speaking about the area that was the capital of the country; back in the day. A lot of tradition needless to say. So, we see it as a lot of opportunities in education.
And so do most colleges (which is what started this exchange). None of it has to do with ECNL. It's just a coincidence that young commits in soccer happen to be connected with some of these schools.
Agree with this poster. The kid in any educational setting has to get it done in school and in their sport if they are looking to continue it at college. Plenty of great private schools in other states, too.
Oh, and the storied alumni & support is a added bonus for future professions, etc.
2:56 Can you describe the "outstanding athletic facilities" that these private schools have over public schools? Since almost every high school now has a turf field or multiple turf fields, along with modernized workout facilities that rival a Planet Fitness. Public schools may not have teachers with the great pedigree of private schools (the real advantage of private schools), but spending millions on updating fields, gyms and workout centers is never a problem.
Very large indoor field houses.
LOL - have you seen some of the public school fields in Jersey?A joke.
1:21 A joke they may be. But can't argue with the results that NJ public schools get. Currently there are 19 NJ Women playing soccer for Ivy League Schools. Out of those nineteen women, eleven of them are from public schools, two from Catholic schools and six from prep schools. It should be noted that there are over 50 players from California, which must suggest that those girls are all near the genius level (similar to genius kid poster) or practice in similar crappy public school facilities. My guess is that majority of the women in these Ivy League schools are prep school grads, but that majority does not transcend onto the playing field. So much for extremely large fieldhouses.
These look a list of teams in alphabetic order, including ECNL (which do not compete for state cups). Not sure the relevancy of the list. But, thank you for posting.
Gulp. Sorry, wrong item. As you were...
8:44 - well my kids' school has a pool just for the crew team to practice indoors; as well as a diving facility and indoor pool for the team; they have a water polo team; they have multiple squash courts; multiple tennis courts; grass fields and turf for lacrosse, field hockey and soccer (boys and girls, each); baseball and softball fields, a basketball gym for games only (a practice gym, too); a stadium for football; an indoor and outdoor track; a field house (for when it rains and practices are indoors); and work-out equipment (with full time trainers that are on staff) that rival upscale private gyms; not planet fitness; a nutritionist; and more. Should I go on??? I've been to colleges that don't have the same facilities. AND, the pedigreed (as you called it) teachers; semesters abroad-in high school; and more. It's really pretty cool. There are more than just Ivy's that show interest. Top schools like Duke, UVA, Stanford, and others that require great grades come acourting, too. And, you are reviewing a current list of current Ivy players top 50 program players. These kids are commits currently. Still in high school as freshman, soph, jrs.
Now, I can't speak for everybody, just my kid's experience. However, as someone attempted to point out, there is a pattern. But, I can assure you it is not an ECNL strategy with private schools. It is a choice, like ECNL. Every very good soccer player who is a very good student will likely have the same experiences. And, she does have a genius level iq. Again, that is documented and all her. The school district had her tested a few years back. Not something she/or we boast about. It was however the reason she wanted to to attend the school of her choice. She was invited to visit many schools and picked one that was HER best fit. She is doing the work so she has to have the right fit.
Oh 8:44 meant to add. These are privately funded items that have been added to the school by the school through alumnae, etc. No taxpayer funds used.
3:29That's really great that they have all that, but I though we were talking about how the facilities help raise the level of your daughters game in regards to soccer (my mistake). But if she's into water polo, high diving and squash instead of playing soccer, nothing wrong with that. 99.9% of all players stop playing the game at some point. Fencing is a great sport too.
Not saying the school facilities raises her level of soccer at all (and she has committed to a college to play soccer). She did that through training and playing outside of school. The facilities were a lure because she could play on grass and turf (not just one or the other) and the grass isn't full of divits and always well maintained; the fitness items are great so I don't have to worry about her overdoing something with a weight or two as they have trainers on site (well versed in all the sports) to prevent this; that she is going to get a well balanced option for lunch, snack and maybe something after practice. They do tape anaysis in the tape room. She has professional athletes, olympians and national team players in other sports at her school, currently, and that are alumnae. She is part of that community. And, having that mindset and support for her scholastic environment doesn't hurt.
But none of the facilities mattered if the academics would not help her reach her goals. Despite being big in supporting sports, we are an academics first family.
4:27I appreciate your daughter's abilities (both mental and physical), but you have shown no proof of any common thread between ECNL, Prep School and D1 College soccer.Take the latest schools you just listed (and I'll add a few similar schools).Duke, University of Virginia, Florida State, Florida and Penn State. Out of these five D1 schools there are eight extremely talented and no doubt very intelligent ladies playing for them. All eight are from NJ public school systems. Please do not take this as me railing against prep school, as I truly believe it is the path to a better education and better college preparation.
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