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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1199 of 1199Vernon SC Storm? You have got to be kidding...
As we all know soccer clubs are about money. All Second tier academy u12 and up have 18 player rosters. Could it be u12 red has a poison as coach? Only 13 kids. Good job parents don't drink the red Kool aid.
Dont chase the Long Island folks away. I think we could benefit from their perspective.....
Long Island parents are actually quite amusing.
http://www.backofthenet.com/62rd/ubbthreads.php/forums/2/1/BOTN_Main_Message_Board
How bad will Force Crush beat freehold this weekend? Predictions.....
Force head & shoulders better than Freehold. Funny how the same Freehold & Jackson players play much better now that they get better coaching & training. Look @ Jackson's record in JAGS, EDP, tournaments & State Cup & you'll see where they're at even with our cast offs returning to them. Freehold will be even weaker now that more of their players want to better themselves. Both teams should merge together to make 1 giant train wreck. Jackson Attack claim to fame are a couple of ties yet how is your league play going this season? So sorry. Force over Freehold big!!!
Super Group:
Semis
NJ Force 3-0 Freehold
STA 2-1 NJ Crush
Finals
STA 2-1 NJ Force
Premier Group:
Semis
STA 2-1 Haddonfield
FC Copa 2-1 Middletown
Finals
FC Copa 2-1 STA
STA both make finals not too bad.
We played the force and I recently watched them play in state cup.They are no better then United or Attack,Bring in guest players at tournaments because you only have 11 players.We will see you down the road .
"Second Tier Academy"hasn't scored 2 goals in 2 years. No way they win 2-1. You must be be drinking the Kool aid.
If other teams didn't challenge themselves and put their teams into the premier group STA would have been out in the first round. Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.
Freehold all the way, both wins on PK's.
Oh great sage.
Freehold all the way,
both wins on PK's CAN you forecast
the score at the end of regulation.
I want to make an over/under bet.
I don't see any pda teams in semi's in either u-10,u-11 or u-12 ? Why??
The Jackson Attacks only claim to fame was beating the Sharks at last years Jackson Tourney. They are at MOSA Nat 1 team at best. Freehold is picking up a couple really good girls and they will dominate.
Dominate? Ok, I guess we can go back to hating Freehold again. They never learn, maybe their coaches teach the parents how to alienate people.
STA puts Red team in Super Group and White team in Premier Group, same at all ages boys and girls. Club rule.
White Teams at any age wouldn't do well in top group, but at least they play their own level of competition in Premier and do well... As do the Red teams in Super Groups!
Just don't brag about it.
NJ Force 4 -- Freehold 1
Freehold is not picking up anyone. Current players leaving for the Force.
How would you know? If you know FH isn't picking up players and the force is you have a connection to both
Force is the place be at u-13
Force all the way. The only people running back to freehold will be people that didn't make team in the past or dysfunctional families. Families leave freehold because they are thinking about there daughters futures.They could make a soap opera about drama this season. Is it a basketball team or a soccer team? Never productive if your key players are just playing soccer for fun, to stay in game shape for basketball.
Come on miss, how many teams has your daughter now been on? Sorry it didn't work out for you. Your daughter will still be rooting for Freehold.
FYI
STA white parent just "let" their daughter go to the Red team... And there were a couple of Red team rejects on the white team. Get your facts straight.
Stop making nonsense up
Go watch your kid play soccer
FYI my daughter has played for her team since the beginning. If i could my daughter would have left too. Good luck to the families that move on. I will miss them.
I'm believing now that STA coaches and parents are crazy!
"Red team rejects" on STA White?
Harsh words coming from a "close nit group!"
How are those scabs?
Hey Nit Wit
the nit in "close nit group" is "knit"
If you are going to insult, then at
least don't insult your own ignorance.
the big claim to fame is the TM
NJSA merging with Sharks will it help? NJSA is not a very good team but as for the Sharks I've never seen a team lose so many 4-0 & 5-0 games in a year as they have even losing to their own B-team 4-0! Someone said Jackson & Freehold should combine with all the kids that couldn't make the Force & can go back in MOSA & win National 1. Who would coach that team? Take you pick of out of touch unqualified coaches. They won't be around long as Force will continue to get better every season. We'll take your players & finally give them good coaching & training since they have never had that experience yet.
Why would the sharks merge with NJSA?If they are going to pay academy prices at least go team that is good.NJSA stinks!The force thinks that they are an elite team.....Seen them play....No different then all the other teams! Its not a wise crack.Just be happy with who you are.AVERAGE!!!!!
Someone is looking in a mirror!
Why would the sharks merge with NJSA? Other than LC being able to get paid there is no benefit to LC. NJSA needs Jackson so they can rip off the taxpayers of Jackson and get to use the turf fields for free. And the Jackson soccer club gets a kick back for every Jackson player that goes to that team. The JSC can make more money with less expenses by having girls on the NJSA team As a former board member I can tell you its all about money. The Sharks are in the best position, very few in town players, the A Team of the age group, use of great fields, a board member as an asst coach
Wow there has been a lot of activity this week
-- lots of STA discussion
-- talk of Freehold as a basketball team not a soccer team
-- typical Jackson is a mess
-- more of the Force pounding their chests
Who would ever pay LC for what she provides??? Check her resume & the success of her teams & you can't find much to talk about positive. Isn't the Attack the A-team now after the beating they received from them. Pay thousands of dollars for a bad Mommy coach? I don't think so! They merge she'll be out & her kids will be looking for a new home.
How many current Freehold players are going to the Force
how many shark players going to Attack?
Nobody that will be missed , no impact players; filler
Any Attack players going to Freehold? How about Freehold players going to Wildcats? Who wont be missed? Is Freehold losing their center? Who will win the jump balls?
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF THE TEAMS THAT WILL BE COMPETING IN THE US CLUB CUP SEMI FINALS AND FINALS THIS WEEKEND!!! BOTH SUPER GROUP AND PREMIER GROUP
ENJOY THE GAMES, CELEBRATE THE TEAMS, ROOT FOR COMPETITIVE GAMES IT SHOULD BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF THE PLAYERS, IN THE END THERE IS ONLY ONE TEAM THAT WILL WALK AWAY AS CHAMPIONS, BUT I'M SURE IT WAS A FUN RIDE FOR THE TEAMS THAT HAVE MADE IT THIS FAR!
AGAIN, GOOD LUCK!
I'm glad you used all CAPS. Your comment would not have had the same effect without them, though a period now and then might help. At least it was a positive comment.
Prediction for the state cup, on Sunday May 12.
NJ Force Crush over Freehold Untied
2-1 maybe a tie,overtime, then to PK's.
If it goes to PK's then Freehold over NJ Force Crush.
If Force Crush goes to finals against STA,
STA over Force Crush.
NJ Crush Storm clearly the one behind the eight ball
nj crush storm playing a different style these days. It will be interesting to watch the result. The team is much more physical and direct. I don't know if it was part of their grand plan but team has changed.
They are a very different team from the past.
To the poster 6:50
My statement of the NJ Crush Storm was not meant as an insult just an observation, now that I think of it I haven't seen them play in a time.Please don't lump me in with the bashers that come on here....I'm not like that! Good luck Sunday.
WOW YOU PEOPLE HAVE BEEN A VERY ACTIVE BUNCH OF ASSHOLES FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.....YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES AND YOUR ISSUES THAT YOU ALL HAVE. THIS SHOULD BE A GROUP THERAPY BLOG FOR HANDJOBS, DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND GO FIND SOME ROPE AND HANG YOURSELVES. IT WILL BE A BETTER WORLD WITHOUT YOU WHACK JOBS AND NO I'M NOT DISFUNCTIONAL YOU ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL. BTW THE WAY DOES ANYONE NEED A GUESS PLAYER FOR ANY UP COMING TOURNAMENTS, I GUEST IT WOULD BE GOOD TO ASK NOW THAN LATER FOR SOME GUESS PLAYERS. YOU FRIGGIN FOLKS DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO OWN UP AND SHOW YOUR SELVES TO THE OTHER PARENTS YOU BASH.....WHETHER YOU'RE FROM PDA, STA, NJ FORCE, FREEHOLD, JACKSON, TOMS RIVER OR WHEREVER YOU MAY BE FROM, YOU NEVER HAS A SET AND YOU NEVER WILL.
IM SPEAKING UP FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GET BASHED ON HEAR...OH I MEAN ON HERE AND THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE. SHAME ON YOU AND GO SCREW YOURSELVES.......AMEN.
Well,if you're not dysfunctional, then you must be drunk.
NO.... SORRY GUESS AGAIN, JUST BEING TRUTHFUL. HURTS DOESN'T IT!
So sad to be you.
To May 10 10:24
Is Charlie Sheen your role model?
You have severe anger issues.
Help is there should you seek it out.
You must be either a Jackson Attack or Sharks parent. We can tell by that poorly written all caps diatribe. I am guessing you have the Lexile score of a 4th grader.
Someone may need to translate this to "Jackson-speak" since all of the Piney's in that town are illiterate.
10:24 May 10
Very classy, remember there are kids that read this blog too.
Hopefully the Blog Administrator will delete your post.
To Mr. Cap Letters,
Saying Amen at the end does not negate your profanity.
Help is on the way. Put down the drink, and the other drink. no, no do not finish it before you put it down.
So....everyone he is damning he sees, as a God,a deity or a religion.
Hell is going to look like a vacation spot to you when you get to the pearly gates.
• Definition of profanity (n)
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any cup scores?
State cup results
middletown over fc copa 4-0
Nj force over freehold
Sta white over haddonfield 1-0
Sta red over nj crush storm in pk (didn't see score)
Freehold was robbed by the refs!!
Freehold was robbed the refs!!
Thank you Freehold parent. I just
won a small bet that, that would be
your excuse.
I will truly enjoy dinner on you fools!!!
Ok force parent.... A game is won by a trick flip throw?? How about playing soccer?
I didn't see the freehold game, but it could be true
The one thing
That I have found watching these cup finals the last few years is that the refereeing is consistently, inexcusably bad. I don't know where they find these refs, but their calls ( or lack thereof) have been the deciding factor in a lot of games. Makes the whole idea of a championship a bit of a joke
STA Red over Force in PK's
Middletown over STA White 2-1
Trick flip throw?
Nice.
Can you describe the play?
Play was equal. Both teams very equal. Freehold should have won 3-1. Refs terrible.
You know, when the player gets the ball near the box,and quickly throws towards the goal and one of her own players touches the ball with foot and then takes one dribble and shoots and scores. That trick flip throw.
You suck
It ain't a trick.
Freehold had zero chances to score and only had a few dribblers to the goalie. Force had 4 or 5 opportunities and hit cross bar once.
Freehold should have won.
Not sure how you call a throw in a trick. Typically Freehold sour grapes......lost the game to the better team and losing their players to them as well. Force deserved the win.
Nothing worse than sore loser cry babies
Looking at Freehold's record lately I guess the refs have been robbing them a lot!! Lol
The game could have gone either way, why do we always need to bash the other team? Both teams should be proud to have made it to the semis.
Well done!!!
neither team won! STA won.Force is just the first loser!
Did anyone watch NJ Crush vs STA game was wondering if Storm had a chance and how the 2 teams played.
Crush totally out played STA
9:36 poster...not really. STA outplayed Crush and with only 1 sub. Crush did play well but STA had about 10 more chances on net. Fields sucked so neither team could establish any sort of possession with STA being the better "direct" team.
It came down to PKs at hats off to the STA coach who actually prepared the girls by practicing Pks. They looked very composed and smooth.
I seen both teams play.The difference between force and freehold is force has stronger fowards and freehold has better mids.Teams are even talent wise with the exception of " the trick throw-in".If your not expecting a girl to flip and throw it into the box it will catch the girls looking.If freehold knew about it and didn't have their tallest girl run at her as she is throwing the ball in, shame on them.The force need to try and justify spending academy prices.The facts are if you look at ALL of the games played in the cup from begining to end, most were decided by PK's or 1 goal.
Congrats to all the teams who competed yesterday and hats off to STA and Middletown who represented our age bracket well. Well done girls and coaches!
I've seen what you call a trick throw in...Although very impressive athletically and legal, should be banned in youth soccer.
@ 2:12 PM WHY?
Gymnastics coming to your local field
I used to defend FH, no more. You lost, move on quietly and congratulate the opposing team.
poster May-12-13
What an eloquent command of the English language.You should become a writer of short stories.
what post??
The win for STA Red puts them #1 in NJ and #2 in the Nation on GotSoccer!
Great to see so many NJ teams in the top 25 in the country on GotSoccer. Shows that we compete well at tournaments.
Congrats STA Red
How come Jackson Soccer is pushing this NJSA team when their two town teams Sharks and Attack are playing in higher flights than this "Elite" NJSA team?
How come Jackson Soccer is pushing this NJSA team when their two town teams Sharks and Attack are playing in higher flights than this "Elite" NJSA team?
May 14, 2013 at 7:19 AM
Answer to your post.
Any Soccer Club including Jackson wants all the players to reach there higest level. This club is offering a place where players can do that with out going out of town to play else where, many player have done this in the past.(PDA,Matchfit,Wall etc..)
The issue is not about playing in higher flights, it's their not winning in those higher flights.
Both those two teams think they are high level and their not. The Sharks and the Attack have been around for some years and have done well, but they are both at a wall where they are not progressing.
The club should 1) step in and combine both teams to make them one really good team at that high level. 2)have the coaches incourage players to move to an elite level where the training is very good and better then what there getting now. (both team records reflect that)
I know Jackson Parents and Coaches, I am a Head Coach in the
Club and have see these isses before.
Hope this answers your question.
Great answer 813AM is it a shame it is a work of fiction. The reason for the NJSA/Jackson partnership is all about money. NJSA gets use of the town fields for the same low cost as the soccer club. Previous to this partnership NJSA paid the town a premium to use the fields now with the partnership they pay next to nothing (soccer club get fields for dollar a year) So NJSA is now saving a ton of money to go and help pay for tad ramos and don green to buy that second bmw they keep talking about. Do you really think they will lower tuition? Jackson soccer club gets a kick back for every kid who joins. The club makes more money on a kid that goes to njsa than they do as being part of the soccer club. So the NJSA/Jackson soccer partnership increased revenue and lowers expenses for both groups. But on the flip side they are both technically committing fraud against the township of Jackson and that lost extra revenue the town use to get from NJSA will be replaced by a higher tax rate on Jackson families.
Good answer to the above question. Informative & fair and I'm sure the idea of staying in Jackson before the better players leave is worth it to work with NJSA.
I think the truth lies in between the two above comments. I am sure there are some altruistic people in NJSA and Jackson Soccer but I agree that youth sports has a money component that can't be ignored. The guys running NJSA are running a business and if I can increase revenue and decrease expense as a business owner you would be stupid not too. I think there is a fine line between smart business sense and fraud and NJSA Jackson partnership is really coming close to fraud but it could go either way. It all depends on who wants to make it an issue.
As far as merging the sharks and attack, while they could make a really strong team both coaches are legends in their own minds and would never come together unless the club made them, but if that happened they would take their teams at BOM.
Jackson is and has been a mess in this age group for years and until both of those teams implode you will continue to have this dysfunctional mindset.
Sincerely, A Former Board Member and Coach of Jackson.
More Jackson Board members on this blog. No wonder your club is a joke. Do you have any good teams left?
How did Freeholds tryouts go last night? How many current team members didn't show and are leaving? Will they be able to field a team next year?
2-4 leaving. Still leaves enoug to play 5v5 basketball.
They havent hit a wall, they are developing! NJSA team in this age group could hang with either team.As far as training,NJSA couldn't come close to the training our team gets!If you want to throw your money away, be my guest....Teams like Jackson, Brick, and Freehold must be doing something right.They are competing with the academies and not shelling out 3 grand a year!!!!I can only speak for our team. Great kids, coaching, training, and parents.Never had a player leave for greener pastors because there arent any! Good luck to all....
WHere are freehold girls going?
Unless ECNL becomes ETNL(Elite teams national league) it is doomed to failure by its own exclusionary nature. The majority of clubs cannot field ECNL quality teams throught their age group, Already several top teams in Va are pulling their top teams from the league. Not a good sign,
What's Jackson's records against PDA, STA, Americans, NJ Crush, SJEB, Brick & NJ Force? Where are they competing? Not in State Cup, tournaments, JAGS or EDP. It must nbe in their own minds they are competing. At least Freehold has beaten a top 5 team before, can't say that for any Jackson team. NJSA is on the smae low level as Jackson.
Post 12:59pm how do you know how much it costs at these other places? Some of these teams do a lot so there is cost inmvolved maybe not to the tune of $3000 but must be some cost. Talk about what you know what you think you know.
Didn't someone point how many 4-0 & 5-0 losses Jackson Sharks have had & you call that competing??? Wake up & deal with reality that the Sharks are an avergae team with below average coaching & training. Players could be good players but you'll never seee that until they upgrade. Attack is a kickball team with a crazy coach so don't see them ever taking the next step. How's their season going? Exactly! Even Freehold is better but they suffer from the samething except they have a player or 2 that on another team could be real good.
The Attack is not a kick and run team we play solid soccer and our coach is not crazy he cares about the team and the girls he and his brother are saints who are amazing coaches and trainers. They give everyone one of the girls an opportunity to shine. We have gone from a MOSA team to being ranked 16 on Got Soccer in the state of NJ. We beat the Sharks, everything people said we could not do we did. We are regrouping and coming back strong. We are in the same league as PDA and STA but what we got is a family they got a bunch of hired guns. We will be a team playing at the top of the group for years to come while PDA, STA, force and Freehold go thru new girls every year. We are the top team in Jackson and every other team wants to be us.
Go pay all that money to be on an Academy team, we play the same tournaments as they do but we hold fundraisers and parents who own local businesses support our team no need to pay 3000 dollars. If you want your daughter to play with a great group of girls who area a family and not have to pay for trainers since we have the best in Cliff and his daughter than come to tryouts Wed night and show us what you got. Coach Colin is always looking for talented girls.
I was the one that posted about 5-12-13 and I failed to put the time of (his-her) post. duh!
The date and time I should have entered was 5-12-13 7:15 PM so I'll just copy and post so there will be no need to scroll back
Anonymous said...
You suck
May 12, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Anonymous said...
MY POST
poster May-12-13
What an eloquent command of the English language.You should become a writer of short stories.
May 13, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Just wait till this blog gets the skinny on the fact that PDA is coming to Toms River! Now there is a partnership.
If you are such a tight family then nothing can come in between you and your team/families. Nothing that is unless you come to tryouts and show our great coach that you are better then what we currently have. If that is the case we will take you and ask our soccer sister to leave. Some family.
Attack didn't do well in the 4th flight of PDA. Also didn't do well in the MAPS Cup & Frederick Cup. Ranked 16 by Got Soccer. Nothing to brag about. Sharks are ranked higher!
How did Jackson Sharks do at Epic Tournament this past weekend? Does anyone know?
If Jackson Attack are such a family, why are they having tryouts? So the players on the end of the bench are expendable, just saying....some family....
Never even heard of the Attack except on this blog bragging about beating the Sharks.
Attach does not cut or let players go. Attach actually adding 2 players for Summer and Fall Play
Is the team called The Attack or The Attach? Anonymous 6:48PM?? I seem to like the name Attach! So we have the Jackson Attach, The NJ Farse, Freehold Not_United, Jackson Guppies can we come up with any other good names?
If anyone on the board is thinking about going to the Attach, I would read this board sounds like a disfunctional family. Also, to the Attack parent who thinks their team is go great and such a family, you need to get a life and stop living via your daughter. Go find a hobby.
The only thing dysfunctional is someone who would bash a 12U soccer team...
I am not sure what is worse, the person bashing the Attack or the Attack parent who wrote that mini-novel at 4:09PM. My vote right now is the Attack parent speech more because it is written like a person who did not get out of the 3rd grade. Which parent on the Attack didn't finish high school or college, find that person and you will find the author of that post. I think that after you find the person you should give them a book on grammar!!
NJSA will never grow in Jackson, they charge $2400+ uniforms, my daughter plays for the Sharks and it costs maybe $600 for the year and we play in 2 leagues at a high level and about 10 tournaments a year.And the coaches are very good to the girls.
Will freehold have a team next year?
PDA Bash. BTW it's NJ Farce
I agree about NJSA & for the cost Jackson is a better alternative but let's not say you play at a high level. JAGS 2nd flight & most likely EDP 2nd flight next season looking at your record. The coach may be nice to the girls & that is important but take the team for what it is which is a cheap alternative with a coach who is nice that makes it about her girls pretending to be a top team & convincing only the people on the team that they are. You can't lose as many 4-0 & 5-0 games & still believe you are a top team.
If Jackson Sharks cost $600 then why has the coach told a new player it will cost them $2000? Are they paying for someone else's child?
Maybe paying for her 2??? Sounds fishy!
Who is losing 4-0,5-0 games?
I think that 2K goes to pay for the LC Taxi service. The club really should ban having teams having bank accounts outside of the club. It is really wrong that money is not being reported and audited. I know most teams have two accounts the one that the clubs manages and a separate one that is managed by the coach. What is really funny is the parents are too afraid to ask for a listing of spent money because they don't want to upset the coach.
Our local club travel team breaks down every penny and sends us a budget via email regularly. Every penny accounted for.
$2000 for LC? Wow, some parents are really drinkin the cool aid.
final predictions anyone on who will win EDP South and who will win EDP
north?
8:55am post Jackson Sharks have lost many 4-0 & 5-0 games this year. Just look up their record in tournaments & league play.
EDP North & South teams that finish with the best record will win the divisions. It won't be a team from Jackson that's for sure.
How does edp mp,scoffs work? Are there wild cards? If so how many?
Sorry should have read EDP playoffs
EDP North looks like Manhattan if they tie or beat NYSC. If NYSC beats Manhattan then runs the table they would win.
EDP South looks like Brick as all they need to do is tie or beat Freehold. SJEB if they run the table & Freehold beats Brick would win. Freehold is the dark horse as they need to win their last 4 games which include SJEB & Brick so very unlikely.
Why is Jackson B-team in North? There are more South teams than North & looking at the teams they should make a 2nd flight for South & put the bottom teams in there.
Does anyone know if only the top two teams in EDP make playoffs? I know NPL has wild cards?
Instead of guessing who will take 1st let's guess who will take last & what will their record be?
North has to be the Attack as they don't belong in EDP. Side note would have thought the Americans would have done better.
South will be the Rage but Sharks will be towards the bottom with the NJ Wildcats to make up the bottom 3 of 9. They also don't belong clearly.
North will play the South in a playoff game.There will not be two flights in each division next year.The North has stronger teams in my opinion so I will predict the North taking the playoff game.
EDP U-13 does have 2nd flights. Not sure of this playoff game you speak of? Did they play one in the Fall? I don't see it listed on their website.
PDA raising fees and will make a coach rotation next year. Who's your coach? and, Whats in your wallet?
re: playoff game
How else would they determine who goes to Nationals?
IN EDP, are standings kept across fall and spring (as in - they arent separate)?
Thus division winners (2) have a game - and winner goes to the tournament.
NYCSL (also NPL) doesnt have divisions, thus it's just the first place team that goes.
Any corrections on this, folks?
Nationals start @ U-13 NOT U-12. There will be a North U-12 & South U-12 1st place teams just like in the Fall.
So EDP separates the seasons?
Thanks
There is a Fall champion & Spring Champion. Fall North champion was NYSC with STA 2nd & Fall South champion was Brick with SJEB 2nd. You receive pts after each season the top 3 teams I believe get points or that's how it was done in the older groups with some getting pts for up to 5th place depending on how many teams in division.
Thanks
It might make sense for all NPL divisions to award points the same way. Maybe they will fix that.
There are 28 teams at u13.If there are that many teams there would have to be another division.
May 8, 2013 at 10:38 PM
anonymous said...
SC storm will be a top 10 powerhouse by October 2013
Let me take this one step further:
They will not be a powerhouse until October 2014. The coach only got rid of his worst players now to make room for players from a team that is folding. He kept the others, who were barely better than those he let go. By tryout time next year, he'll have gotten rid of the rest and then they will be one of the top teams in this age group.
What team are you talking about? When you say the team name without the Club & no one knows who you are that says about where the team is in the landscape of this age group.
Vernon is the answer, and yes my daughter got cut.
Who the hell are Vernon? Never seen or ever heard of them before. I'm sure next year I won't hear about them either.
That long drive up to Vernon will get even longer for losing every game and being coached by a daddy. Out of town players will last less than a year.
Coach Vernon? Is he still around?
Hope he is a little quieter now.
So why would Mt. Olive fold to go to a team that isn't any good?
Welcome to the fray, Vernon
Not sure why that poster feels there cannot be a new team come on the scene.......
Good luck.
Mt Olive isn't even near Vernon, and who cares this blog is supposed to be about Jackson.
Personaly I am sick and tired of hearing about Jackson. You people
are have tunnel vision and severe
cranial rectitus. Get over Jackson and move on!!
If Stonewall were alive today, you wouldn't
dare say what you do.
Vernon is a quality team, we played them over the fall. They move the ball very well. Definetly had a few holes on the team , but sounds like they may have filled them.Im not sure how far the players are traveling but they will be playing at a beautiful facility.
Good Luck !!
To the poster whose daughter was cut from Vernon, Mount Olive has tryouts tonight, I beleive there are about 12 openings
Take a look at Vernon's gotsoccer record since the fall. They got destroyed by poor teams at DTS Spring Tournament. They are not a good team at all... And definitely weren't in the fall!
Vernon merging with Mt. Olive? That won't make them a good team either. Funny how these teams come on here bragging yet they have nothing to brag about. We have seen the Sharks, Freehold, Attack & Mt. Olive come on here bragging then you look at their records or lack of accomplishments & can't figure out what they are talking about. Better to keep quiet like when Old Bridge bragged for a day got killed & they were smart enough to not mention anything again & therefore having been killed on this blog. If you are going to promote your team on here you better have a resume worth talking about. They won't become a big team as that # of teams will dwindle as they get older & maybe 5-6 really good teams will be around while the rest will be average.
Mt olive made it to state cup final 4 or better three times in a row at u10 and u11, no other team accomplished same record at higher flight
Silly statement as PDA won US Club @ U-10 & NJYS State Cup U-11 & U-12. They folded because they had major problems on & off the field.
This team that team the new team will be ECNL U14 MATCH FIT PDA. Girls soccer is moving so fast you better have good personal training and be a year ahead When you go to a ECNL tryout you will se that im right.The girls better have good foot skills because they dont care about speed or how many goals you score. Please dont tell me which clubs are good or bad because at u14 they will find 20 good players from all over the state. These teams will be outstanding due to the talent that your daughters bring to the team. GOOD LUCK TO ALL
What a tool. By the time our girls reach college the next "it league" will have already happened. Hopefully it's better run and managed than ECNL. Most clubs can't field top teams in all age groups" you wil have declining status because games and competition will be lopsided in many matches. Exclusionary leagues don't work for long. They are swallowed by their own bravado and greed.
Or at least that is what you hope.
Spoken like someone who is on the outside looking in.
So let me ask, do you now hate Matchfit as much as PDA, or will it take some time to develop that level of hatred?
Unfortunately I have been on the inside looking out. Daughter at a much better club now that is run with development in mind not dollars. And she was not cut from the blue uniform, she left.
Perfect example is the U-15 MSC coyotes. National champs from a smal club that could never field quality teams in all age groups. But they stayed together and are now national champs. But can they play any of the GOOD ECNL teams? nope. Excluded. And why? ECNL excludes smaller clubs. Money talks.
Stop worrying about U15, half of these girls wont even be playing by that time.
YOU keep reading and calling people names, its all ok.
Money always talks. Soccer is no different tha baskball,,,softball or swimming.
Actually TSF can still win EDP north.
Someone on my daughters team received 2 yellows in her last game. Does she need to sit a game or is that only if you receive a direct red?
Yes must sit out next game.
That is what I thought but I was told I was wrong. Is that rule anywhere to be seen?
I think you are wrong. Don't have to sit with yellow.He should have given her a red.But he didn't!
yep TSF
2 yellows, had to leave the game. Don't 2 yellows = a red?
If two yellows were given, the red should have immediately followed.
Probably depends on the league as to requirements to sit next game?
EDP rule 9b says a red card = a 1 game suspension.
OK, but do 2 yellows equal a red or are they just two yellows and you are out of the game.
If a player gets 2 yellows they should be shown the red card after the 2nd yellow and they should leave the game an their team finished the game a man down. If the ref did not do this or mark it down properly on his game report this player might have gottne lucky and will be allowed to play.
I have heard many different versions of what should be done. It is a good question, is there a specific rule in place. One that can be seen and end all the possible outcomes.
Red card infractions are normally sent to the league and once it gets to that level, then the player has to sit out a game. It sometimes takes a week or more for it to get addressed by the appropriate person. The player might get lucky and continue to play in a game or two now and then have to sit later.
I don't know the answer. I looked, but I don't see a specific rule to go by.
Many different versions.
Funny.
Ref may have erred. If he did, club should hold her out anyway.
What I find funny is that NO ONE can give a real answer.
Post 5/16 12:22pm how could TSF win EDP North? Even if they win out & NYSC beats Manhattan they still finish behind Manhattan due to losing to them head to head.
EDP has a rule regarding red cards so we know what the answer should be. We do not know what the ref put down on his game card and that is key to understanding if the player will have a suspension of 1 game. Basically if EDP does not contact the club then there is no issue.
Put down on the card? Why would that matter? Either 2 yellows = a red and you have a one game sit or not. Which is it, and where is the proof?
I don't know how this subject came up but now I am intrigued.
8:44
Manhattan vs FSA game is (strangely) not on the schedule. That would be Manhattan's 6th game and potential second loss.
Thus TSF, at (potentially) 5-1, could come in first....
8:28
The answer has been given
Maybe you are searching for something more to your liking
Red card (in this case deserved, whether shown or not) is 1 game sit and should be the next league game.
What is so hard to understand. Club should sit this player.
Club should sit the player is different then club must sit the player. See the difference?
Manhattan tied FSA 1-1 & for some reason is listed under EDP South? So if Manhattan does lose to NYSC & TSF wins out they can win it but odds are it will be Manhattan or NYSC who won it in the Fall.
Not sure what all the TSF talk is about. They will be luck to win 1 more game let alone all 3.
Greater chance Manhattan ties or beats NYSC to win division than TSF winning their remaining games when 1 is against NYSC.
Why should a club need to WAIT for the league to tell them to sit the girl
Any player that does not sit the next game following the red should face further sanction.
What is so difficult to understand?
The league does it different? Well. ...then they are idiots - and when you think about it they could be subject to legal action
EX: Girl is red carded for physical play. Plays the next game and breaks an opponent's leg.
OOPS.
TSF would need a lot of luck. Look
at what they have left to play.
Ex. Two minor yellows. Now what
My son is a Grade 7 ref. (Not 7th Grade, he's 19). Card info is sent by ref to ref assignor, usually on line within 72 hours of game. Assignor contacts the specific league, who then sends sanctions down to the club, who in turn, would notify the coach. If the coach tells the club right away, they can make the player sit, which they should, but most wait until they get the offical notification. They league often imposes a fine, which some clubs make the parents of the player pay.
This yellow red card thread demonstrates the level of ignorance of this blog-from the lawyers "OOPS", coaches & parents here, is there anyone that knows how to read; the rules are available on every league's web site, ain't that complicated.. thanks for the entertainment though.
two encl teams=one great National League team.
Check out ecnl scores and schedules and get ready to laugh. More then half the teams have a negative GD.
Some have -18,-22 and even a -35.
Can't find the E in Elite anymore, all these teams automatically are back next season. What?
Awful lot of money to travel and either win 6-0 or lose 0-6.
along with the elite I think they lost development. I guess they mean develop charter and how to win big or be a good loser.
Go TSF
Mount Olive ended 2+ year run beating Crush 2-1. Wish all our teammates and opponents Good luck in the future. Have met some real nice parents and players we will follow going forward. You will see our players on Splash, Hornets, Vernon, Match Fit and STA.
which Crush-nj force crush or nj crush storm. ? good luck to the athletes. much success going forward!
Mt. Olive didn't do well in EDP 1-4-1 or JAGS this season so is that why they are disbanding? Players seem to be going all over the place spread out over a lot of places not so close.
nj force crush of course
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