Someone will spend some extra time in purgatory...
Yeah, we are already. it's called youth travel soccer. lol
Try-out season! any teams looking to add players?
Every team is looking to add players.
I was surprised by IGFA v PDA result in us club nj cup. Was the game closer than the 3-1 score?
Wow 1:24 - thanks had to check - prior to this season this board was IGFA vs NJ kind of how the U14 board was last year with PDA vs NJ.I guess the 01 IGFA team not as bad as some said they would be after BYC and PDA South not as good as the NorthEast NPL is making them look.1 PDA South 013 Princeton SA IGFA 01 NPL
Neither team that good
8:47 Stop being silly, Princeton defenders are always tough and willing to knock people down. Not your normal NPL team
Hahaha. Knocking people down isn't soccer.
11:58Hmmmm. I guess all those guys ending up on their ass in the UEFA league are not playing soccer. Check out a D1 soccer game sometime and watch how many players get up off the ground. Soccer is a great technical game, but not everyone plays in the pansy and petunia league.
Playing tough and smart and using your body to move someone off the ball isn't intentionally knocking down. One shows skill and another shows lack thereof.
Just because a person wears the powder blue doesn't mean they are a good player
I just found out that PF GDA is taking 23 players. How many are other DA clubs taking? That's a lot of sitting and not even dressing for games. Can anyone tell me the substitution rules at this age for the GDA?
Only 18 dress. Max of 5 subs per game so 2 girls who dress are guaranteed not to play either. Can only sub on 3 opportunities and once you're out, you're done for the game. So a minimum of 6 girls will play 100% of every game.
They are taking 23 so they have room to add a few more that they feel can challenge for a starting role.
NYCFC is only Taking 18 per team. Oldest group may be made up of combined 01/00/99's
PAC is taking 18 from what I heard
Or PF is taking 23 for the $$$$ and to keep players from PAC
Chances are most will sit the bench next year too. Shame.
Someone doesn't want kids showing up to PF tryouts. They never said they were taking 23. 20-22 depending on the quality at tryouts. Some kids told they have a spot in the DA true, but others told maybe depending on the tryout. Yes there will be more bench sitting by some players in some games, but the coach will manage it. PF will be one of the best teams in the DA. They are getting the top attacking player in PA from the 99/98 ecnl team who always played up. probably will be a lot of games with big leads at half as the league takes shape i.e. PAC Players 12-16 on that game day roster will get lots of time.Also the Feds have not decided for sure if they will allow 5 subs like the boys or bump it up to 7. Also remember there is a 25% start requirement. Looks like the boys let those kids who will only start 25% get half a game in those games. Ussf are clear that they may alter any of the boys rules that don't fit best for girls. Check the FAQ list on the ussoccer website. That is specifically one of the rules they are evaluating. So yeah it goes back to does your kid want to play/ train on the best team possible or play more on a lesser team. Some kids rise to the challenge and experience a developmental sharp increase in trajectory Promoted by a desire to improve and in a competitive environment some achieve levels previously thought impossible. Others however, possibly not seeing the field in some games, languish in despair and with confidence decreasing experience a viscous cycle of poor performance and less time. If yours is the latter and not going to be a top 12 or 13 player at PF I am sure there is a spot at PAC
Or look at it this way. Train under a top notch coach or one who can't even win his current ECNL games because he doesn't encourage his favorites to play as a team. Just get the ball to Suzie! That's the CS way. Better off heading to CFC.
Sorry not clear the older age will not take 01/02 up because they will be packed with top talent. They 01/02 will not be diluted as will happen in other clubs. PF will be a force and will compete well in the da with the added tryout players (100 registered and no NPL players have been invited to tryouts). That's at least 60 kids from outside the club and there will be significant adds. Final rosters will be very interesting.
Well if your kid isn't an impact player they probably don't want her. They won't replace one role player with another unless there is a perceived higher ceiling with the newbie.
How exactly will final rosters be very interesting when most spots have already been given out? At this point it's just bench fillers all for the $$$.
You don't think that if the best kids from some of the edp teams show up to tryouts it won't be interesting? There are a lot of kids who have been told that the tryout will determine their inclusions. Yes some of the starters have been told they are in, but lots are on edge.
Oh, 9:04 did you get bad news about your kid not being GDA capable?
10:25 is correct. And, kids from other teams ( ECNL/Nat'l League) may be coming out as well. It's try-outs. Anything can happen.
9:41 - seriously? just using my thinking cap here, but if it was about the $$$, then PF would have have kept ECNL for girls. It's about development. You have to plan for kids availability (they are still students; things come up re school) and possibly injuries.
9:41 - incorrect re bench fillers. The roster spots are just that; spots. Of course a few have been offered already. They know the player and her capacity. These are kids that would be on most GDA teams, anyway. Same with bubble players, they know what the player brings or doesn't. If at this age, they aren't getting it as far as iq, technical and tactical, then why not for those spots have a pin in them. Playing time and roster depth will always be determined after new team gets together.
11:15 Tino is that you? Don't you have better things to do than be on this blog? Can't believe someone would use the words PF and development in same sentence. PF isn't giving up any dollars at all, simply applied the ECNL tag to the boys side and went DA with the girls. They only did this once they realized they would never have a boys DA team and the girls DA was there for the taking. So stop with this horseshit that Tino would possibly have the girls best interest in mind and its not a business decision. Tino's already making backroom deals with CFC parents regarding the DA, going as far as offering both DA play and HS play in order to get them to commit. But don't worry, I'm sure he's being honest and putting this all out front to all the parents before they start tryouts. Lets face it, PF's has realized that they will never be PDA and this is the new direction they are taking. Taking this path has nothing to do with concerns over development or the individual players at PF. Not a fan of PAC, but at least their tryouts will be halfway legit and their directors do care about the girls that play for them. Unfortunately like most clubs, just not enough quality coaches.
3:45 poor guy. Can't live through your kid. Let it go. let it go.
Hey 3:45 here's a thought. Go outside with your kid; take a ball and practice. If you spent more time doing that instead of being on blogs, then maybe it would have worked out differently. Extra work only helps.
It's not just deals with CFC. Guess how many 'new' players will be at PF GDA and also play for the Westtown School? Hmmmm, I wonder if there is a connection there....
Sheeesssh 9:22. Only 4:48 is suppose to be on this blog. instead of debating any facts he just attacks the parent or the kids level of play (neither of which he knows). In fact the posting of any facts and mentioning their director in a harsh manner causes internal strife. I can see him now after hearing truism about his beloved Tino, clutching Tino's picture to his chest and rocking back and forth in a chair, sobbing........
Yes PF coaches lie. A lot. Most realize this or at some point will. Who cares though, if you like kool aid so be it, if not take your kid elsewhere.
10:22 - what makes you think I'm a PF member? I'm not. I just think loosers complain about coaches on a blog under anonymous instead of having face to face convos with them/him/her. It's called having soccer balls. Grow a pair.
345 MH and SK care more about the kids than CS TM and SS? Hmm. This isn't TW first time with PAC. years ago he coached the boys. I have no idea how anyone thinks a guy who was at best meh the first time around- favoring big and fast is some kind of huge upgrade over CS (say what you want about game day decisions, but pretty much all agree who have experienced him that he's a great trainer). Coaching at the d3 level (they will hire anyone not much there in the vetting process) does not offer any stamp of approval in my book. Unless your kid is a D3 prospect, why do you think he offers some holy grail on recruitment? The best 9th graders are well into the process if not sitting on offers while the 10th graders are done anyway.
Spoken like an arrogant fool who thinks the only way to succeed in life after college is to play D1!!!Best wishes to you daughter!
Who is talking about life after college? This is a discussion regarding GDA- D3 need not apply.Do you really think there is the same vetting process used for a D3 coach and maybe a single assistant managing a budget of $20,000 , versus a head D1 coach managing a staff including an associate, an assistant, a volunteer assistant, and a director of ops and an operating budget of $300,000? Do you think that the D3 head coach is paid the same as the P5 head coach?Some D3s set a kid up well for life after college, but I like the national university's alumni networks as an important key to success. I always here this rationalization defending D3s as superior in the grand scheme of life blah blah blah in these discussions. If your kid could go P5 they will unless they want a 100% then they might consider the midmajor. Lots of mid major D1 kids at 100% were offered lesser percentages at P5s that is true. Those kids won't look at D3. Sure the higher level D3 players could play lower level D1 but beyond that to P5...no way.
you sound like you're the marketing agent for PFthanks tinoonly one way to make it. all you players planning on d3, just quit now, it's not worth it
he doesn't care if all the D3 players quit actually. There will always be others who will backfill the rosters. But...They won't have to quit they can play Pre DA
TW at PAC has a better understanding of the college process than those at PF. CS and SS are high school coaches and were both less than average players playing at D3 college programs. TM couldn't tell you the difference between Delaware County Community College, Delaware State or the University of Delaware. But at the end of the day, none are these guys are at the level of other DA programs as trainers. Other than the GK coach, PF has a sad crew of DA coaches and it's not much better at PAC. Both clubs need to work to find better coaches. I'd give the advantage to TW at PAC. Also the future of the GDA leans towards PAC. PF will have the success early on, but in future PAC will end up having the better program.
Well said 8:41. Couldn't agree more actually.
I agree 8:41 . PAC will be the Pa. powerhouse in the future.
Remains to be seen...but perhaps good chance
I don't disagree that PAC has a very bright future as a GDA program which will also draw from Harrisburg. There is a lot of talent there not willing to travel to Philly, but will make it to northwest Lancaster.However, CS and TM at this point in time, have a lot more contacts with top D1 coaches than anyone at PAC has. TW's experience as a D3 coach does not give him any advantage in helping to manage the D1 P5 recruiting process. He will potentially gain experience as he gets some top YNT talent to work with and begins fielding calls from top D1 coaches, but as this point none of the top coaches know his name. He has no credibility with them. he can't call them and say, hey you should take a look at this kid in Sanford because i think she may be a good fit..They all know CS and TM and they can and do exactly that often leading to placements. So in time, yes PAC may develop into the top Girl's program in the state, but they have a few years of relationship building until that will potentially happen.
Perhaps you're not familiar with the boys DA?College coaches line the field at games. doesn't matter who you know...
I agree and disagree with some of the more recent posts.1. Currenty ECNL top of the pyramid2. PF solid teams at all ages.3. FC Bucks not solid at all ages4. CFC Delco not solid at all agesNew world for 17/18 season1. GDA will be top of the pyramid2. PF will continue to field strong teams3. Is PAC another PF or FC Bucks/CFC Delco4. ECNL still in play Bucks/Delco become stronger as PDA, PF, Breakers and Stars field GDA teams as their 1st team5. USYS National league also still in play (Vegas and Disney events among the best in the country)PAC can become great or they maybe another Bucks/Delco. Only time will tell
Yes they line the fields, but the top coaches have a few club coaches that they trust more than others. There are pipelines to these programs. TW and MH will need to develop these relationships. TM and CS already have them. Even for YNT kids trying for the top spots these relationships are helpful in sealing it up.
Three years ago TM was running the rec league at WCUSC and CS was coaching little girl’s teams. PF ECNL was already well established before these guys came into the picture. The YNT pipeline and college connections weren’t developed by TM and CS. So if a German with rec league experience can pick up on how to assist players with college recruiting, a well respected guy with extensive college and pro experience will have little difficulty at PAC. TW at PAC has a better base knowledge of recruiting than both CS and TM as neither of the two had any background with college recruitment until recently. TW is also a better coach than any of the current staff at PF. TW will be just fine. He needs to improve the coaching staff PAC and not just with GDA. If PAC wants to do well in the DA they need to make sure they are doing a better job with player development with players 8U to 12U.
Except it isn't completely true.CS has always coached the 98/99 ECNL team since they were little tiny kidsTrue he picked up the 00/01s now 01s when they were left by CB at u14 and carried them onwards into the recruiting years where he has negotiated ACC and Big 10 deals for them.TM had the 97/98 team through its recruiting years, multiple ACC, Big 10 and SEC deals. He and had the 99/00 through u15 after which time he remained active in their recruiting while SS got his feet wet in the higher level arena. So where are your facts? Sure they still coach younger kids with the idea of bringing teams along. What's the issue? The CFC guys are starting to come back. Won't be many years until the merger works out. I think they are still working on it.
You must not know SK from PAC. His connections are golden. Get out of your bubble. PAC has been running a boys DA for years. They know what they're doing.
FACT. Female players from 2010 to 2016 were not placed by TM or CS. 2017, 2018 and 2019 are three years of TM and CS helping these kids with recruitment. The 2010's to 2015's and most of the 16's were not placed by TM or CS. The recruiting process started for the 2016's in 2012-13 year. TM and CS were not working with college placement during those years. Also, many of the PF girls placed at P5 schools from the 2016 to 2019 teams had already been on the radar of college programs through Regional and National teams. Most of these girls came from other clubs and were already being recruited by P5 schools.
How long before there is a NWSL team that has GDA? Coming soon from what I am hearing...
SK has never coached girls before so how are his connections to Women's soccer coaches so golden? Again, I don't have any doubt that PAC will grow to become a great alternative to PF. But for this year and probably the next, in the older age groups, they will have growing pains to which I would not want my child to be subjected. If I had a 12-13 year old with potential to be a P5 level kid, and I was living in central PA, I would assume that the growing pains and relationship building would be taken care of before my kid hit high school and I would be looking to the club for my child. But this year and next, they will struggle at 01.
word is 01 offers are coming outi think gda as a whole will be a building issue in the next few years, not just smaller clubs
1211 Do you even know any of these kids personally? because you are very mistaken as to the path they took and who beyond the obvious of themselves and their families, helped them gain their college acceptances. At least 2 of the kids who have been YNT campers started with the club at u11 or younger. Another 2 were at PF at u13 or 14. The late adds to the YNT mix started at PF as middle schoolers also if i remember correctly. TM negotiated the 2016s no idea why you would say otherwise.http://wcusc.org/tryouts/417367.html
PAC will be a great alternative for players who would be 12-20 on the roster at PF. They will probably start for PAC and would have been unhappy at PF. Not sure PF will have near the growing pains that PAC will have in the older age groups. PF basically a turn key DA as they roll a decent or better couple of teams into one DA team. PAC will be rolling comparitively weak teams together and then will have to fill with outside kids. Best chance for them is if the 02s from PL return "home" to Lancaster county.
@1:15 see you tonight at tryouts!!
This is humorous. Clearly some of this is PAC rah rah is having convos with him/herself. I'm not going to diss the coaches there. And, I happen to be a PF member. I will note for the conversation that one of my older kids who was not a soccer player in college (DI in another sport) has been offered several D-3 coaching positions as a soccer coach. Strange but true. Anyway, PAC should be fine. Do I think it warrants leaving PF? Absolutely not.
you should read the funnies on the u15 blog today!
To the same usual PA parent, relax already! Drop the if PL players return home comment already. You must be a parent of one of them.
@1:55 - of course this person is a parent. He/she is trying to get quality players to come over is how I am reading it. Eventually that may happen, but not in it's infancy. The GDA will have some kinks in it anyway, but will be worse at a start up team.
I think there are at least 4 Central PA 02s who are important to the success of that team. Wonder if they will keep driving? 2 I think are from Harrisburg.
Hahahaha. Important to the success???? You realize this is a new ball game. There are only 18-22 total spots on all of these GDA teams and there aren't many GDA's. How many are there between NY, NJ, PA, MD, VA? How many kids play soccer? Yeah, that's what I mean. At 02 if girls don't want to make the ride, other 02's will be able to step in and take the spots. Welcome to the top of the food chain. How it is.
More parents posting about their kid again. So obvious 3:05.
PF tryouts last night...Any real news? No made up fake bs....
Well basically all of the worries people had that none of the older kids would give up high school were put to rest. There were the usual PF 01s there but there were quite a few kids from lots of other clubs including from as far away as Bethesda. It should be a very competitive team. Are the PAC tryouts over? Will some kids who didn't make it get to tryout at PAC or other clubs?
Interesting but not surprising. Rumor was that most spots were already filled. I believe pac is done
This is a rumor board. Some on it are self-serving and intentionally mislead (i want to perserve my kid's chances so don't want many to show) and some are just misinformed. It's whisper down the internet. lol
pf girls were also at classic tryoutsweighing their options as tryouts should be...
Is this PAC rah rah still trying to get some traction? Seriously bud? From what I saw, PF can fill any spot pretty easily. Some very good players out there.
True The post only mentioned some pf girls were at other tryoutdefensive much or can't read?
Neither one. Just stating truth as well. Can't you read?
settle down tino
You are clueless. He's too busy.
Funny part is me/my kid is not a member, yet. But you probably were. Thanks for the spot.
Sure kids went to both PAC and PF should that surprise anyone? Question is, do you think anyone expecting to start on PF refuses the offer to instead play for PAC? I see non starters looking to classics because of the sub rules. Will be interesting to see if I am right.
Agreed. The other poster was trying to be a pf dick..
So forget the back and forth crap...has pf set their roster now?Do they have any other dates or just call TM to check in? Daughter is interested after the fact..
Email him. Eail on the website and express interest. They are always adding impact players
Pretty soon the music will stop and so many will be without chairs to sit in. I do feel bad for those player, but they will recover much quicker than the parents that will have to go to option three or four. All the time in total disbelief and denial over their daughter not being selected. In a few days if you listen closely you will be able to hear the tears dropping. So very sad.
Things will never change - it's just where you move your kid. Our kids wouldn't know about the GDA if we didn't mention it to them.GDA games will be playedECNL games will be playedNPL games will be playedNational League games will be playedRegional League games will be playedState Cup games will be playedand many more games will be playedand all those kids and parents are having a blast supporting their kids and their kid's club regardless.so 8:39 The music will never stop my friend.
Anyone attend any recent ECNL team try-outs? Was wondering how they fared in all of this.
Our girls will be Sophomores and Juniors next season, why they would move this late in the game is beyond me. Good luck to those moving.
Good point. I agree, but some clubs opted out of ECNL to go GDA.
Does anyone know what going on with Boca - manalapan and NJX-holmdel. Multiple kids from each team seen at tryouts.
Both are done.
9:14 You are correct that soccer may continue for many of us, but for some the game already has. Although our country's overall number's are still incredible, participation itself is down by almost 1.5 million kids. Now of course everyone has their own set of numbers to go by and reasons that that there is such a decline. Beau Dure has written some good articles regarding youth soccer in general and although I do agree with everything he points out, I do agree with the general gist. Dure ask these question?Is playing the game itself the best coach?Is US Soccer constantly trying to fix what isn't broken?Has youth soccer become too player-centric?I do not know about your area or where your daughters' played, but I do know some local clubs have disappeared from our surrounding area. Is it just that larger clubs are swallowing up these clubs or that kids are finding other sports to play. Or are parents steering them towards something with a lesser cost?For some the Music has stopped
Sorry, meant to say "do not agree with everything he points out". Next time i'll reread my post before I submit.Good luck to all at tryouts
Interesting. Here are my responses re the questions:Yes;Yes;Yes;Yes & no. Yes, some local clubs have been eaten by the bigger entities. No, I don't think kids are find other sports, entirely. I also think that kids are being steered to the bigger entities as they have the one-stop-shopping attraction. Such as better facilities, more coaches, more levels of player/playing, specialized training, soccer snob appeal.No. I think parents are steering them toward more expensive then less expensive options thinking that is the answer. Not saying they are accurate, but these are just my POV.
11:21Those are good points and good answers to those questions (especially liked snob appeal). I think a lot of it has to do with the transition in field size when players hit U13 (U12 in some states). On the smaller field, local teams only need a couple star players and a fast defender or two and they can at the very least, compete with other clubs. That local team competitiveness evaporates once the field gets big and weaker players get exposed. As you mentioned, that is the point the mom and dads of the better players look else where. I'm sure many that are on this board have looked more for a coach whose system fits his daughters style of play than the club itself (especially from U13 to U15). This upcoming year is a huge year for our daughters, hopefully everyone finds a good fit.
Honest question...Is PF 02/01 GDA team roster finalized?
that is a good question. There was only four spots left as of last week, and that's coming from the man himself. PF's DA should be really strong during their first year, where as it looks like Classics will be getting crushed on a regular basis. But the training will be great regardless of the outcomes.
@8:10 As of last week? So before the Monday "tryouts"?I'd think it's full now then.My daughter wants me to call. I know...a little late...I contacted classics and they said they are full. I guess your comment means you know the team..."crushed on a regular basis"
8:10 First of all, grow up. Second, is it really about team results at this point or getting your daughter top training and seen by scouts? It's not u14 anymore.
If your child is a sophomores or junior next season, is it a good idea to move from an NPL team to an ECNL team at this juncture?
Didn't Penn Fusion just get CRUSHED 9-0? Then go on to lose the last two games as well?
Both club's 02 rosters are stronger which should help when combined. I agree though, focus should be on the training and hoping your daughter is on the field and not the bench.
The best attacking 01 PF kid is just coming back from an ACL. Hoasnt played competitively this year. Combined with the excellent 02s the PF 01/02 will compete better with the west coast next year.
Too bad she's playing up with the u18's.......
Maybe...Maybe notKid hasn't even practiced yet who knows where she's at now. That 00/99 team will have several other national camper types in attacking and midfield roles. Time will tell where she settles in.
I'd agree that PF will be stronger than classics but I won't trash any team moving into this new venture of GDAI agree with poster that it's all about exposure now more than ever.
8:44 what should we talk ablout if not u14 my friend? Training can cover that in one post, seen by scouts, everybody knows the different options they have.So what should we talk about if not results?Why does the GDA have a National title?Why does the ECNL have a National title?Why does the NPL have a National title?Why does USYS have a National ChapionshipWhy does US Club have a National title?Why does the Super Y have a National title?u14 is when these teams can start playing for titles while being seen by scouts.The coach trains the players the best way he/she knows. It's then up to them to take what they learned and apply in meaningful games so the scouts can see who fits their program. Then they get to see players at their ID clinics. This is youth soccer my friend.A girl doesn't make a D1 program because she can do a move.The coaches like to see how they react when under pressure, when they have a lead or when the game is out of their hands. All part of a soccer palyer.So yes Results matter -f PA classics doesn't make Nationals they are at home while maybe PennFusion is playing at nationals where all the top scouts will be. Who has the advantage then the team with the good results or the one saying results don't matter anymore.2017 NPL Finals - Qualified teams so far:Davis Legacy SCCampton United SCVirginia RushTucson Soccer Academy
10:47There will be plenty of scouts at league games and the showcases. Not just Nationals. Calm down Mr. Competitive. A successful team is a bonus yes but the only way they'll get seen? Get realistic. Any player on the field playing for a Development Academy team will be more than fine with getting looks regardless of what side of the scorecard they are on. It's the kids on the bench that it will be hard on.
Any team that is close to a big city will have a bigger player pool to draw from. It would be pretty bad if Penn Fusion wasn't able to get the win. Does that mean Central PA parents should bypass a closer DA club to take them to a further one? Seems ridiculous to me personally. There are so many areas in the US no where near a DA club. Count yourself extremely lucky if you have one within 30 minutes of your house.
1:33 Okay Mr Closed Mind - plenty of scouts at what league games? I'm talking about everybody not a small group in GDA, ECNL, NL or ERL. There are so many other leagues that will have kids playing in college expand your mind my friend. In regards to your development Academy - So you think scouts will just show up with out an invite to watch a PA classics vs PF league game? I'm saying if they win they will have a ton at their National event big difference. To be seen will require a lot of work from the player invites and of course playing well and attending clinics am I wrong?I agree 2:00 so many options for our kids and their is no blanket right answer just the right one for the kid we are talking about what ever it may be. For any team and their are plenty not in a GDA or ECNL the teams need to win to be flighted high and to advance to their national events to maximize exposureYou can call me Mr Competitive - I'm just calling it like i see it right or wrong.
College coaches are commonly present at PF league games now...
3:03 wow - coaches not from PA or South Jersey that's impressive.
2:50 College scouts come to Boys DA games. Why would they not come to girls DA games? This is a new level we are talking about with the Development Academy. The most important thing is for your child to be on that field during these games. Along with the training of coarse.
8:52 Good come back on the 9-0 PF loss to West Coast. Now think about the coaches watching that game and what do you think they were able to write in their notes about the PF attackers during that game? Almost nothing because West Coast was on the attack on a continual basis, unless they wrote down that the PF attackers look strong standing and waiting for the ball or came back on defense well. Which is exactly what may happen with your PAC DA team for the first year or two, since there will be many lopsided scores. Not trying to piss you off, but you just don't want to accept that you don't have the drawing power that other DA's have at this point. The DOC at Classsic's will build that program up as he truly cares about the program, but it will take time. Congrats to your daughter making the team and hopefully she's on the defensive side of the ball so she'll make and impression.
3:19 - yes. Not OP, but just chiming in. They come from PA, NJ, DE, NY, DC, VA, NC, MD, TN, MA and more. Don't they come to your league games? Some have come to practices as well.
5:16 - why are you making this a pissing match? I'm a PF member, not the prior poster and I wish PAC success, too. Why not? I wish the kids I know on Bucks and Continental success, too. These are kids. I want them to succeed. Why are you wishing some kids don't? That's just wrong.
Why do you think PF parents have the rep that they do? Not all I'm sure fit the bad rep but many do because of parents like the above. What a great opportunity for PAC. Having both a boys and girls DA now and a great coaching addition to the program. Well on their way I'd say.
and by above I do not mean 5:31. I agree with you. Congrats to all these girls and I wish them success.
Most PF parents are obnoxious . Bet they are worried now that they know PAC will be the dominate club in PA in the near future . People are getting tired of Tino's BS. It's time for a change .
5:31 Did I not say the DOC at Classics truly cares for the program and will build it up? Not quite sure where the "pissing match" reference is coming from, but I do wish all the players well as these are all young ladies working their tails off. Do you disagree that in lopsided game, one sides attackers don't get to show off their skill set like they would like too? The plus side is that the defenders and keepers get to show their skills. 5:31 You do realize this is a board where you allowed to debate soccer related issues and sometimes put an opinion out there? Just checking. I think every post I put out there I said congrats to the girls and good luck to those heading to tryouts. Pop another Xanax and have a good night
5:25 They do if the team plays ERL and National Leagues since those league games are in a tournament format.
11:15 - ohhhh you hurt my feelings...lol. And, yes this is a blog. And my opinion matters as well. and in my opinion, you are delusional if you think your comments were positive. But, luckily you found this blog to give your life some meaning. Hang in there pal, hoping your shock therapy treatments occur sooner than later.
US Youth Soccer Region I Eastern Regional League (ERL)Qualified for the US Youth Soccer2017-18 National League 17U Girls (2001s)1: FC FREDERICK '01 2: NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL 3: GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT becomes an OPEN spot 4: ARLINGTON SA 2001 GIRLS RED 5: Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI)6: Greater Binghamton FC (NY-W)7: 2001 Tennessee SC Showcase (TN)8: CUP Gold 01 (OH-S)9: BRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA)10: United FA 01 Premier (GA)11: Legends FC 01 Academy (CA-S)12: EGA 01 Maroon Omaha (NE)13: Nationals Unions 01 Red (MI)14: Florida Elite 2001 (FL)15: Nationals Union 01 Black (MI)16: Fullerton Rangers 01 White (CA-S)17: [OPEN] Nationals Union 01 Black (MI)18: [OPEN] EGA 01 Maroon Omaha (NE) 19: Fever United (TX-N)20: Sting East 01 Dunstan (TX-N)21: PacNW 01 Maroon (WA)22: AZ Arsenal 01 Premier Teal (AZ)23: USA Stars Academy 01 (CA-N)24: Rebels SC 01 Elite (CA-S)25: 2017 MRL Premier I Division Spring Champion26: 2017 MRL Premier I Division Spring 2nd Place 27: 2016-17 SRPL Premier East 1st Place 28: 2016-17 SRPL Premier East 2nd Place 29: Region I Cup Representative to 2017 Nationals 30: Region II Cup Representative to 2017 Nationals 31: Region III Cup Representative to 2017 Nationals 32: Region IV Cup Representative to 2017 Nationals for you 8:39 Go PDA!!!!!!
In another league where results matter.Winner goes to IndianaNPL Northeast Girls League 2016-2017Sat, May 6, 2017 results not postedContinental FC 01 NPL vs FC Stars 01 NPLMatch Fit Academy 01 NPL vs FC Boston 01 NPLPTs GP19 - 9 PDA South 01 NPL15 - 6 World Class FC 01 NPL 14 - 7 PDA North 01 NPL10 - 5 FC Stars 01 NPL9 - 4 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL 8 - 6 Connecticut FC 01 NPL 7 - 5 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL7 - 7 FC Boston 01 NPL 7 - 5 Continental FC 01 NPL 4 - 6 FSA FC 01 NPL 3 - 4 FC Bucks 01 NPL1 - 5 East Meadow SC 01 NPL 1 - 5 Albertson Fury 01 NPL
Who won us club games today?
NYCSL NPL 2016-2017 05/07/2017STA NPL-01 vs Princeton NPL-01SUSA NPL-01 vs Manhattan NPL-01 NJ Crush NPL-01 vs Massapequa NPL-01Brentwood NPL-01 vs New York SC NPL-01NJ Stallions NPL-01 vs Quickstrike NPL-01Pts GP 15 - 5 Princeton SA NPL-0112 - 4 SUSA FC NPL-0110 - 5 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-016 - 3 NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01 6 - 4 STA NPL-014 - 4 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-014 - 5 NJ Crush FC NPL-013 - 4 Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-011 - 3 New York Soccer Club NPL-010 - 5 Quickstrike FC NPL-01
3:01 I just hope you found your safe space and your partner managed to get in touch with a grief counselor to work with you. As for the girls that play the game, they will be fine with or without us throwing blind darts on here.
EDP NPL NPL NorthPts GP9 - 3 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK 4 - 2 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL 3 - 3 ALLEYCATS 2001G NPL 3 - 3 CEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2001 0 - 2 TSF ACADEMY 2001G 0 - 1 JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01G EDP NPL SouthPTs GP9 - 3 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 9 - 4 SAC PREMIER BLUE 4 - 2 SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS PREMIER WHITE 1 - 2 MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G NPL 1 - 4 NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS WHITE 0 - 1 PIPELINE SC BLACK
8:56 no disrespect but US Club is pay to play.NJ Champ goes directNY Champ goes directOthers Champs have to play in regional event with any team that pays the application fee.USYS the only legit National Championship for State winners.NJ Champ goes to Region 1NY Champ goes to Region 1other Champs go to RegionalsRegional Champ goes to nationals to play other Regional champs and the Division winners of the USYS National league.We don't see ECNL champs playing US Club champs? Oh yeah results don't matter for ECNL and GDA teams that's why I didn't post their standings in this one stop shop for results.But since you asked I would have this one time but they aren't updated.
9:26 no disrespect taken. I guess that means the two PDA teams that got knocked out will have to pay to play
Scores just posted in the game being played this second NJ Wildcats Fury-NPLvsPrinceton SA IGFA 01 NPLfor the NJ Cup title and a spot in Indiana for the National Cup (not a fan of this title - but it is a National title).Good luck to both
EPYSA State Cup Final (NCS) set1776 United FCvsPA Classics Academy '01 NJYSA State Cup (NCS) semi-Finals setNJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ)STA 2001G NPL (NJ)SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY (NJ)NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL (NJ)Wow - NJ Wildcats going for the double in NJ
Thanks Wildcat Mom
I guess IGFA 2001 still tops in NJ - Wish they would have done a USYS league also to compete in the NCS.NJ has some options that's for sure.What is going to happen to the North East Girls NPL next season?World Class, East Meadow and Albertson are going to have weak ECNL teams with NY having 4 GDA clubs now. There is no way their NPL teams are going to be strong. I can see SJEB becoming NJ's 3rd GDA with the Red Bulls and the Philadelphia Union joining forces with clubs to give the MLS two more GDA clubs who fits?CFC Delco backed out out deal with Penn Fusion to keep ECNL teams and gaina GDA under the union flag (I like this rumor). I can see the Red Bulls and MatchFit joining forces.Where are all these 2nd team GDA teams going to play since ECNL looks like it's not an option? NPL? I doubt that. I see USYS winning here.Kids are going to have many options.GDAECNL or USYS NLNPL or ERLEDP, CCL, NEP, NY PLPAGS, JAGS, WAGSUS CLub State CupsNCS State Cups.Is this better 3:36?
3:17 PA NCS1776 for the kill
hats off to PSA-IGFA. Great coaching, tough group of young ladies. Great soccer game. Rough, tough, heart wrenching weekend in all. Congrats to them. Wildcats played hard and gave a great game and competition.
Who did PSA roster for this game? The U16 NPL team or all eligible players ('01/'02)?Just curious.
They had eligible players on the roster. This board had so much IGFA hate last season just like U14 had all the Wildcat hate - in all honesty it was great that they played each other - teams changed but they still did what they did prior to this season and that is get the results. In NJ they are the team to beat at this age where results matter.
Answer the questionDid the 2001 NPL team play the game or not?
10:42 How the hell do I know?Who else would have played the game?
Answer the question . Lol wow very bossy.NPL 2001 is the same team that play the state cup . Do not even know why you ask.Is wildcats team the NPL team ? Did nj elite played with eligible players ? Stupid question and as usual looking at some angle of attack but you got the answer boss. Lol
Someone living vicariously through his kid...
Anyone playing in the Challenger tournament? first time for our team..."just want to play some games" we were told...
Never heard of the challenger tournament. Is it new? When is it?
I only heard of the classics challenger tournament.I know nothing about it
IGFA can not play us youth championship series with 2001 because his better players are 01 and they supplement 2000... Which is why the 2000 were destroyed verses COPA. Their national league team play as 2000 but 90% of the roster are 2001 players. Evident they only have one team with a ligit chance. They have only team in championship series because they lack the depth to have two quality teams at each age bracket. A 2-1 win over the wildcats is nothing to bang your chest on. Soft field of play.
Wildcats lost with only 10 players. Ref was totally against us and red carded our player who did nothing.
Does anyone know which teams have try outs this week??
Pick the team you want to try out for and email the coach. Teams are always looking for players. They will see you.
PDA has tryouts today. Info on website.
PDAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!Should I go to north or south?
PA Classics is still looking to fill spots for their DA, so you could try out there.
10:22 which team?I wanna call bs but I'll wait for your answer first....
It depends how far you want to drive. Up north, central, or the south.
Do everyone a favor and go to off Florida.
How did you know?My daughter just verbally committed to FSU!!Traveling there soon!
Where's "off Florida"?Which island do you recommend pda mom?
10:22 Not at all true. Wherever you are getting your information, I recommend finding a new source.
Come on 1:23. What DA team takes 3 players off their 01 "B" team just to fill spots? They have had a large number of girls decide not to take the DA positions offered and it has surprised them. I do give Classics credit for taking players from their "B" team as it's something PF would never do, but is that really DA worthy? You want to dispute the "B" team players now on the DA team 10:22? My source is multiple DA families that are about to take part in that hot mess. If players with serious ability turned up at Classics, they'ed be on the team. Think about where your roster is at now and how much room there still is, why is that?
Hahahaha...think what you want. Those "b" team kids as you called them are VERY good. Must be nice when you have that many choices. With DA too many for certain positions at certain age groups. Enjoy your long ball.
And my source is my kid who can't wait.
My misread. I apologize. I thought you were talking about another team/club. I can't comment as to Classics as I have no idea. As you were...
11:08 So let me get this straight. Those "b" team players were not good enough to make a very average 01 team last season, but surpassed over half the players from that team this year and other 01's that showed up for tryouts?You are correct that the Classics DA team will not be playing long ball, mostly because they will be on defense the whole time and won't be able to clear it. That first PF vs Classics game will be fun. We'll chat again after that game.
Wildcats May 9-your player did nothing? doubtful. Seen you play. Overly physical
Ref was totally against us. Who red cards a kid in a final? We were the better team and that put us at a major disadvantage.
Curious...no skin in the gameDescribe the events leading up to the red card being shown. Straight red or yellow first etc...
7:26Your post was becoming valid and seemed objective until you threw in the PF game. Now you're just a PF parent or fan with an ax to grind perhaps bc your daughter was affected?
Normally I'd say with PF having the location they do, enabling them to draw in more talent, yes the score may not be pretty but we are talking about a team with CS as a coach who is a horrible game day coach. So who knows! There may be 11 strong enough to keep that game quite interesting. They definitely have a better coach. Don't get too cocky. Remember that 9-0 loss recently? Bet you went to your car and hid before the final whistle blew didn't you?
His daughter probably plays for PF but in actuality doesn't really "play." I'm sure she helps the team out with those 6 minutes each half though!
10:37 you are talking about their u18 GDA team. Many of the current u17 Academy players have decided they want to finish out their HS years playing school ball. Most are committed already. Makes sense. The u16/17 GDA team had no issue filling their roster with quality players. 7:26 My suggestion, focus on YOUR kid, help her get into a good school, and stop living through her like you're the one out there playing the game. Parents like you are disturbed and well, just plain creepy.
Straight red card. Our player was fouled and then shoved by GFA so she shoved back. It simply a foul and nothing else. Not sure why other team was not carded. Their goalie went nuts in the ref and only got a yellow earlier in the game and should have seen red for her actions.
10:40You have inside info? So classics is not grandfathering their seniors? I've heard of clubs doing this bc of numbers...Shoving will and should always be a red card. My guess is there was some other actions during the game, wasn't her first
1014 Game day coaching prowess will be less of a factor in GDA play with the limited 5 subs and no re entry. PF will blow away classics in the older age groups
10:00 - i thought so too. However, I am not the poster you referenced but with all the throw-downs re these newly minted GDA rivals, I can't wait for it, either.
Hey 10:14, I'm not the prior poster, but just so you are aware, that Cali team in that game is undefeated. Saw them play before. They could probably beat some college teams, already. They are that good. And, they beat Col Rush 10-1 and Serreno 9-0. They have 95 goals scored and maybe10-15 against in only 17 or 18 games. They are a machine. You clearly are not a fan of PF or their coach. But, do you really think the new PAC team would have fared better? Seriously?
Ha! Glad you dug deep there for the 2 other blowouts vs So Cal. Most games are not massive blowouts, not with a 9 goal differential basically. Only vs weaker ECNL teams will you see that.
In a nut shell if your team is down.No worries you will play Albertson, East Meadow, WNY Flash, Continetal and FC Boston Scorpions to rack up some goals and some confidenseIs that 1/3 of the teams? There is a reason why some of our teams look strong and then when they play teams from outside we can't get a win.Perfiect Example is PDA Splash look great in their divisionGP8 Division 5(w) 2(t) 1(l) +13(gd)6 Non-Division 1(w) 3(t) 2(l) -1(gd)6 Tournaments 1(w) 2(t) 3(l) -1(gd)20 Total games 7(w) 7(t) 6(l) +11(gd)League2-2 Solar Chelsea SC ECNL U16 0-1 FC Virginia ECNL U16 1-1 Concorde Fire ECNL U16 1-2 West Coast FC ECNL U16 1-1 Slammers FC ECNL U16 1-0 Orlando City ECNL U16 1-1 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U164-1 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U16 4-0 East Meadow SC ECNL U16 4-2 Albertson SC ECNL U16 3-1 Continental FC ECNL U16 0-2 Match Fit Academy ECNL U16 4-0 Connecticut FC ECNL U160-0 FSA FC ECNL U16Tournaments1-2 South Shore Select AP 1-1 Braddock Road YC 02 Elite4-2 CUP 02G Gold 1-2 Concorde Fire ECNL0-0 Charlotte SA ECNL 011-2 NTH Tophat 01 ECNL
Did some one say PennFusionGP7 Division 4(w) 1(t) 2(l) +8(gd) 6 Non-Division 4(w) 1(t) 1(l) -2(gd) 6 Tournaments 4(w) 0(t) 2(l) +1(gd)19 Total games 12(w) 2(t) 5(l) +7(gd)League2-0 FC Bucks ECNL U16 3-3 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16 2-0 WNY Flash Academy ECNL U16 0-1 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U16 0-2 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U16 4-1 East Meadow SC ECNL U16 4-0 Albertson SC ECNL U16 6-2 SLSG - MO ECNL U16 1-1 Maryland United FC ECNL U16 1-0 Ohio Premier ECNL U16 1-0 Washington Premier ECNL U16 1-0 Orlando City ECNL U16 0-9 So Cal Blues SC ECNL U16 Tournaments2-0 South Jersey Elite Barons '02G1-0 UFA Forsyth 01G Premier3-1 Braddock Road YC 02 Elite2-1 CASL 01 ECNL0-3 MUFC 01G ECNL0-2 Mclean Youth Soccer Mclean 01 G
Can't wait for that PDA/Penn Fusion game!
2:09 - didn't have to dig deep. They have 95 goals. And, not trying to say anything other than that So Cal team is the team to beat. Hands down.
Sounds like poor Tino is still crying in his bowl of Wheaties
Maybe hard to beat but at least try to score one or keep it under 5 GA! How does a team accomplish such a loss?
Having CS as a coach is all that's needed lol
Why are you talking about a team out west, We have no idea how the teams they are playing are. I don't. As you can see very impressive record. let's see if they win the title.SO CAL BLUES ECNLGP 31W 31T 0L 0F 138A 11GD +127I will throw out a Region 1 team that also has a super impressive record - but goes under the radar. MCLEAN YS ECNLGP 35W 31T 3L 1F 142A 17GD +125Then we look at the darlings of this board they get hate and they get love as people call them the best. Their results don't even come close.PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ)GP 20W 7T 7L 6F 34A 23GD +11PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE) GP 19W 12T 2L 5F 33A 26GD +7
@7:24 I am playing devil's advocate... Could it be that there is very bad competition?
Have any of the top NE conf teams played McLean? they would be good games, too.
7;24 - are you using all of the games the teams referenced have played, including non ECNL? The ECNL Champs League standings show different stats. Where are you getting these?
10:40 was obviously a trollI enjoy posts that have meritPosting fake news without any credibility whatsoever is so childish
Another weekend of rainy weather. Hey, Mom Nature, this isn't Seattle. Btw - Happy Mom's Day to all the soccer mom's out there. Here's to ya!
Games still on this weekend in this mess?
games are on for state cup http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/Content/directors/upimg/dir5106/rain/national%20championship%20semi%20finals%20&%20finals%20(rain%20plan).pdfhttp://www.njyouthsoccer.com/Content/directors/upimg/dir5106/rain/njys%20presidents%20cup%20semi%20finals%20&%20finals%20(rain%20plan).pdf
10:40 If they had no trouble filling their roster, then why take three "B" team players? And I am talking about the U16/U17 team and I know all three players from the "B" team that made it. They are extremely proud to have made as they should be. However in this case, oranges are being placed with apples and being called apples. Please stop making a fool of yourself simply because you don't know all of your daughters team. Let's pick up this conversation later in the year and we'll talk about which team was choosing top players and which one hoping to get some. May your daughter have a strongly played healthy end to this season.
Going to butt in here. I also know the (2) B team players and they are both very strong players. Will they be starters? Unlikely, but as players off the bench they will be able to hold their own. At least their coaches saw the potential they have and gave them a chance!
10:27's kid is obviously from the clubs current top team who didn't make the DA. Hey at least you know the club will give your kid a chance next year if she works hard!
MFer coaches finally won a game. Could they actually pull off going to the championships?
Ecnl won only because they faced a weaker team. Npl couldn't pull a win again
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