Exactly the point I was trying to make. I love my daughter and want her to play soccer or whatever she wants. I just didn't think I would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars by the time she graduates high school to get her there. Not when I had a much easier road for my son. Doesn't seem fair, does it? Who's to blame? Hard to say.
Basketball is to Blame ! AAU basketball started the whole club process, and greedy coaches /trainers went from there. Parents spending to much money on trainers, when in FB we taught our boys how to play but most us would rather pay then then play/learn soccer. Then players on teams started playing for free with bigger clubs to attract and keep them. Sponsors now finance Basketball AAU teams with all kinds of back door deals to coaches and players, and soon they will come to youth soccer too. It will get dirty as these leagues keep expanding and hunger for money. What to do? My daughter plays on various teams for free.
But ice hockey is for equipment , ice time, etc. at least you know where a lot of the money goes. Also many of the good hockey teams are not from this area so competition is scarce. Travelling makes more sense. That's not so in our game. Great competition at our door. Soccer requires cleats and a ball.Period.
If there are u-11 teams in a league I still question the competition.NJ crush is playing u11 in both blue and white divisions. Personally I think EDP has many more competitive teams than NPL NY.
Won't matter because next fall NPL Northeast division will consist of 11 ecnl clubs, with the majority having good track records across most of their age groups. We'll see how the 20 game schedule pans out.
Agreed should be interesting. Playing for a team in the south , EDP is much closer for us. I am not one of those parents who,likes a three hour drive or a hotel stay for a Sunday game. Hope EDP remains competitive.
Won't matter because next fall NPL Northeast division will consist of 11 ecnl clubs, with the majority having good track records across most of their age groups. We'll see how the 20 game schedule pans out."
The truth of the matter is that the ECNL b teams will be playing in the NPL. and there is a big gap between the first and second teams. the second teams will have a tough time competing against other clubs A teams. ECNL hoping they will hang unto their players . It will be hard to do as other ECNL 1st teams are looking for good players and the pool of technical players become thinner and thinner.
With no real commitment to training the developmental team, This model will quickly fail!
And why would a college coach down the road come watch a b team. A player that can not make the 24 girl roster of the A team, and is playing against b team level competition.
The housing market did this a few years back, then the bubble broke.
Controlled humble expansion is good, out-of-control greedy expansion, busts.
the b teams will be watered down at the ecnl clubs. the better girls on the B team will leave if they dont make the top ECNL team.. no need to stay there if you can play NPL for a better club team or another Ecnl team.-parents aren't that stupid.
You will have a mediocre NPl league for ECNL clubs. that will not be able to compete. the ecnl clubs have to find a way of keeping the stronger girls who are not on the ECNL roster.
This matchfit B team talk is similar to PDA Hornets and Madrid parents who strut around saying their kid is on PDA which in reality is not true. Only true PDA quality team is the Splash
Not really sure what you are talking about (Splash didn't score)? I watched that PDA final between Splash and Bucks. Score was 1-1 and Splash lost in PKs. Good game both ways. Bucks is good team that will be in ECNL with Splash in a few years. We are not on either team, just waiting for our game to start.
Notice how quiet Jackson Attack & Sharks parent have been because there is nothing to talk about. Attack lost in consolation round of State Cup & haven't won a game in EDP as expected & Sharks doing just as poor yet they were going back & forth for who is the A-team in Jackson which doesn't really matter since they would be even Freehold's B-team. Glad they are gonme so we can discuss soccer.
The Sharks are doing better than the Attack. The Attack has not won a game since November 2012 I am sure their parents are not to happy. The Sharks are winning more games and are ranked higher than the Attack. The Attack are a kick and run team, the Sharks play soccer. Try outs are next week and the Sharks are in charge so they are the A Team. The Attack are the B Team in Jackson no question. If any of the good Attack players want to come to a winning team, they should speak up next week.
This blog is full of misinformation.The sharks are not in charge.The Attack is not the B team.The team has won since November.The sharks gave jackson the bad reputation by coming on here with garbage!
Wow sounds like the Jackson trash are out in force now. Looking at Got Soccer and JAGS it looks like the Attack have only won 1 game since November, not very good. The Sharks are ranked higher than the Attack on Got Soccer. The Sharks are the A Team as far as Jacskon Soccer web site, I really do not see much misinformation. I think we have a upset Attack parent, Don't get mad at the blog because you guys can't finish. This just shows the lack of maturity in your town.
Look again!First you stated they didnt win (not true).Then you stated they are the B Team (not true) check the site again.Upset Attack parent(not true)and who is the mature one?
Either way Attack & Sharks would be most Club's B & C teams. Attack & Sharks where are the wins in JAGS, EDP or State Cup??? Where have you won? Can we just make a new league & just put both of these teams in with Freehold & let them just keep playing themselves then they can have their own blog to discuss nonsense about how good they are & the fact that they don't just play kickball. Reality they are not well coached or trained, maybe some good players but you wouldn't know in the environment they are in & Jackson parents have such a bad rep that it would be surprising if anyone took players from there.
Freehold crap? Seems to me that Freehold is consistently in the semi's of the state cup comps. My daughters team has never played them so I cant comment on style or brand of soccer but it does seem like they do well.
Sharks are the A team in Jackson look at the tryout schedule,the A teams are listed first. The Attack have always been jealous of us. You Attack parents need to chill out there is nothing wrong with being the B team you guys are good This was the first time you guys played up with the good teams and you lost and tied a lot. Stop your bitching, try outs are next week. Address your weak spots cut some girls and look to pick up some new talent, that is what we will be doing.
Be nice to have a team that all they do is play tournaments. No league, but all tournaments. Lots of scrimmages with other top local teams, but just tournaments for gotsoccer points. Think about it, maybe two weekends of a month playing, with actual family time the other two. My daughter is on a great team and is a talented little soccer player, but we never see her, or her brother, and rarely have the whole family together anymore.
Even thinking of changing teams to make it all easier for everyone.
In case you missed it, there are tryouts in Jackson next week! Good Luck! Freehold made it to the semi finals of US Club New Jersey Cup, Someone bashed PDA again and mocked parents of the "b" team or Hornets. Blah, Blah, Blah....Is there ever an original thought or insight into this age group? If you are/were educated in this game you will know that the top teams consistently will change players from the U14/15 to U17, many but not all or the top players will seek to play there (or at least their parents will want them to play on those teams). Several years back PDA had only one team per age group and it was very difficult to wear that Jersey, now when you speak to many parents in the soccer community they talk about their child playing for PDA, when you dig deeper they are not on the top team. There is nothing wrong with this, however, their are many other teams that are far better than those teams. And regularly beat them and play a much better style than those teams. Begs the question, should you play for a better club team than paying to play in these so called top clubs? It depends, many will not be happy unless they wear certain jersey's, even if it is not on the top team, with hopes that they will move up the ranks. The norm is it will not happen, better players will enter the mix in older age groups, and then you realize, we funded the club, we really didn't gain much from this experience, all the daily travel, yikes, did we make the right decision? Makes you wonder doesn't it.
Not bashing anyone, just providing some points for thought and comment...
talked to college coach the other day, and he was complaining about his current players issues with grades and the parents position on the grades and possibly taking a semester off on soccer for better grades. blew my mind when he said, I am looking for better students now, so I can put the best team on the field and rely on them. No more head cases or boarder line students.
Grades really are a non issue when it comes to women's soccer. It isn't because they don't matter, it's just that the demographics of girls' youth soccer normally produces quality students. Obviously, the better the school, the better the hs transcript needs to be. The are more than enough quality female soccer players out their that are also stars in the classroom. If a school at any level is really interested in a player, more often than not she will have the grades to make it work.
PDA Hornets are improving. By U15 most of the NJ teams on this blog will not be able to beat them. Some current Splash players may move down, any new players trying out are trying out for the Hornets.
Don't believe it? Look at some of their older age groups. Their "B" teams compete in Region I Premier and National Leagues, with success. Several D1 college commits from those B teams.
The only thing that makes sense in your post. The hornets are a "B" team. Stop trying to justify why your daughter plays on a "b" team, you just want to say that your child plays for PDA...It is about you and not you child...That shines through very clearly to anyone that would read your comments
Too funny, I am not associated with the Hornets in anyway. I do understand and agree with the philosophy of having B teams, both from a club and player standpoint.
There are many different situations why people would be ok with being on a B team. I am sure there are some that fall into the category of only wanting to wear a particular jersey. But they are likely the minority.
Are you really so jaded that you think that a U12 B team player cannot work hard and develop into an A team player at some point? What about A team players that slip a little, and need to drop down? What about the player that is a great athlete but is new to the game of soccer, and will come up the learning curve quickly? What about the player that lives 5 minutes from a great club, but is at their B team level? Should they travel an hour to be on another club's A team, if the training is the same?
B team is A team wanna bees. Not good enough for A team. If you pay the same fees and get less, means you finance A team a little.
More teams means, you guest it. More money.
Getting fat from b and C teams, and now "development players" players on A team, but not rostered and do not play.Practice dummies, but paying practice dummies.
You are what we think you are. 2nd rate B team, practice dummies.
true for all teams with little exceptions. B team. what is it. Not good enough to make the 18-20 or in some instances 24-26 player roster. Not many colleges (except Comm College interested in the 20th something player. But when she quits soccer, only have to pay $5,000 a yr at Community College. We must see the good in everything.
You are all talking about 12 year old girls. Half of them will be playing another sport or hanging out with their boyfriends in 3 years. Why don't you all shut the hell up. You are a bunch of idiots.
Result speaks volumes!?! You were trashing TSF last week about how average they are, and now this result speaks volumes? Why because you beat a "less than average team" , I belive that was how you put it , WOW what a huge accomplishment!
15K, that the average salary of a family of 4 in Jackson. Is anyone going to Jackson Tryouts Monday and Wed? The posted on the nj.com boards that they have two top tier teams. How top tier are we talking?
If you read back nobody was trashing TSF. An old STA parent said the result would speak volumes (indicating TSF would have an easy win over STA White) and the current STA parent responded after the win over TSF.
Lots of idiots on here that don't actually read what people say.
"May 3, 2013 at 4:03 PM anonymous said... What are all your expectations for your daughters? College soccer? Scholarship?"
For those of you who's heard me say this, you know who I am. My daughter will never play for the USWNT. She won't be a pro like Marta (I want her to be a Physician) and the Colleges that will offer scholarship - what NC, Notre Dame? Maybe. We are shooting for Princeton, or Cornell, hell, maybe Harvard or Yale. Columbia is in NYC, just across the river, so is Cooper Union (in case she ventures into Engineering). She's a straight A student who will do well in one of the top High Schools that is an Honors and AP program and get a very good SAT score. Soccer is the icing on top of the cake, along with Music, Art and Community Service.
Any negative remark about your Siblings Training Arena and it's an "Old Parent" who is to blame. Get over it once and for all! Stop making your club and team look more pathetic.....
If you take the time to read back on April 30 @ 8 am the entire post was about how average the TSF team is and how if they beat STA it would be their only accomplishment. You my friend should read all posts before looking like an idiot, but that may be a lot to ask coming from Second Tier Academy!
STA was once a reputable academy club. Behavior of coaches and parents have made them unprofessional. Why they would come on here and draw attention to themselves is beyond entertaining.
STAY AWAY from Jackson. The Sharks and Attack have horrible reputations. The coaches care only about playing their own kids, they teach poor sportsman ship and all of Jackson teams play kick and run ball. Just read what the parents of these teams post, read about what people say about Jackson it is crazy. Most people in soccer circles will tell you to stay away from Jackson Sharks and Attack. You should look at the open NJ Force try outs coming up. Go to our web page and reach out, you will be very happy and if you make it you will be playing for the number 2 ranked team in the state. If you want to play for coaches who don't care about their teams, who mentally abuse their girls and only care about how far their girls can kick the ball than you should go to try outs next week. You will be sorry, just ask around.
WOW! werent your tryouts last week? I guess nobody showed up to improve your 11 person roster.Guest players can do wonders in tournaments but its not who you are...stop telling lies about Jackson!!!!
I wish we could arrange a meeting for all the dads that post on here...
We could all sit in a circle... Air our views in public...
Then I would beat the crap out of all of you.
Absolute losers. Shut up and just support your daughters team. They are 12...and all they care about is playing. You are an embarrassment to your child.
Lot's of talk on the sidelines at tryouts about teams and clubs. Sharks, Morris United STA and Attack have horrible reputations and everyone should stay away. This blog confirmed it!
The Attack should not be lumped in with the Sharks. We are a better team with better players who are like a family. You guys are just jealous that we have come so far in such a short timeframe. Our competition are teams like PDA not the Sharks The NJ Force are just upset that they beat us by PK's and we outplayed them both times. We are going to regroup over the summer and start the next season off winning the Jackson Classic again, after that we are gunning for PDA Splash; STA, Freehold and Force are jokes If you want to come to a top team that is a family come to tryouts this week and see just how good we are. And for all of the haters on this blog you should do something more productive with your life. GO ATTACK
Kinda of strange not seeing pda in any semis in u-11,12,13. Only entering B teams that get knocked out early? or are these the A teams losing too. Still do not understand the concept of a player playing B team, but certainly understand the club having other teams for money.
"May 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM anonymous said... I bow in the the presence of greatness. May we get your autograph. What a blowhard."
What - you do not want this for your daughter?
The main point is for soccer to be a happy end healthy sport for the girls. It doesn't matter if you play for a top tier team such as PDA or Match Fit. It's more important to have a good experience at the appropriate level. All thing being equal, it's her Academics that will determine her future.
If she's good player, it's an plus for her college resume. No one gets to Ivy League just because you're the best soccer player in the area.
Thanks for your advice, however I don't really need it. If I wanted my daughter to play for either Jackson teams or STA or even for PDA that would be none of your business.I won't bring my daughter to either Jackson teams,(to far of ride)but I am cosidering PDA and STA!
Please post your team, so I can avoid it as if it has a plague....which it does.....YOU!
STA parent no doubt! As no one else would compare the two clubs as even similar to one another. Since again you have drawn attention to yourselves, please tell me the difference between Morris United STA and Sone Training Academy?
NPL acceptence, full of college coaches and coaches that were professional in their home country, a brand new turf complex almost finished and ready to use, Red and White teams at all ages Boys and Girls...
You must be one sad bitter parent that got cut... Or didn't make it at their tryouts. STP - Second Tier Parent.
STA parent please don't waste your breath justifying your teams to some moron anonymous poster. My daughter has played against your red team several times and I've always been impressed by your girls style of play and especially your parents conduct on sideline. Quite frankly it's probably the most quiet sideline I have witnessed. I've also had nice conversations with both the red and white coach. Both are good coaches and pretty down to earth guys. The red coach is tough on them but it seems the girls respect and play very hard for him and the teams success speaks for itself. Ignore all the negativity and don't respond cause it just stirs the pot.
Predictions for state cup finals? Here's my two cents. Super group: force over freehold 2-1 in semis STA over nj crush 1-0 STA over Force in final 2-1 Premier group middlettown over copa 2-1 sTA over Haddomfield 3-1
STA strong defense and solid striker. Crush excellent midfield play. Both teams now play more direct which is helping them win games. Very little build up from the back. See the goalies punt the balls down the field.
not meant to disrespect either team, its just much easier to play this way. Less mistakes. Better chance to win the game.
Not very many teams at this age group play possession soccer anymore.!!!
Complex is off Ketch close to the middle school. I don't think it's STA but a shared town/Morris United complex. STA will have access to it. STA Red I agree has very good parents.
New complex for STA is at the site of the old Graystone facility, accessed by either Kotch Road or Stiles/Central Ave in Morris Plains. Paved the pedestrian walkways this week. Base/drainage lights all up. Fields all prepped. Last step is to lay the turf. Expected completion mid June. Four new lighted turf fields. Two of which are exclusively for Morris Utd/STA, the other two to be shared by Parsippany, Randolph and Hanover I believe.
For the record, I am posted 9:44, not 10:26. I have 2 kids that play for STA and both are extremely happy. That's my only goal, having them be part of a respectful, peaceful team and watching them progress in their development. Both of these things I've been very happy with on the two teams we are a part of over the several years we've been part of the club.
Obviously there's been a back and forth between 2 people, one of whom I believe is probably a member of STA Magic White and the other who was one of the malcontents thrown off Magic White. Obviously the "ex" is going to keep his diatribe going any way he can to tarnish the reputation of the rest of the club. I urge you current parent to stop engaging and stooping to his level. Otherwise you are no better.
@ 9:42am Hey coach you should read some of the comments on this blog. It seems your academy is full of hateful parents and coaches. I would be ebarrased with some of the comments I've seen posted on here if I knew they came from my club. You really should keep the inmates in check.
MF responses due just as PDA tryouts end. MF looking to lock players up with immediate money due prior to PDA getting offers out. It will only be $3K this year until it jumps to $8K at U14.
CLEARLY you are no better! Are you the one with the scabs on her knees? Get your facts straight! You should be embarrased for commenting on the girls that left the club.
We have all seen the threatning text that the STA coach sent to the parents. We have also heard the threatning taped phone conversation that the whaco coach stated he was going to ruin these innocent girls if they left him.
Glad your happy with your club. STAY THERE! We don't want crazy STA parents at ours!
I actually never said anything against the girls. Just referring to what I've heard about the specific PARENTS and you are definitely proving the truth to the rumors.
And one further comment before I disengage from this ridiculous conversation is that the only one who is going to "ruin your innocent daughter" with all this unrelenting hate is YOU.
No hate! Just facts! You have proven to be one of those crazy STA parents who goes along and produces the BS out of that club. My children never played for STA and never will with the display your club and coaches have put forth.
Worse than following a soap opera. If I understand correctly this is the STA white team and not the red team correct? I've always heard the red team is very close knit.
Most STA coaches are now being discredited for behavior pertaining to the issues on this blog. The Red coach has been quoted by a few of his parents to have been involved with the white coaches threats! A reputable club should have stopped this from going further.
No. It was pda that had to forfeit games because of carding issues and coaches card. It was pda that had a coach bolt from a tournament after arriving late and staying out late the night before and leaving for so called basketball with daughter. pda Daddy coach. But STA has it's own issues apparently too.
Red Coach needs to go back to Holland. Even his so called frienda, coach's bash him when he's not around. The red team parents are drinking Jim Jones kool aid.
Envy can be defined as a resentful emotion which "occurs when a person lacks another's (perceived) superior quality, achievement or possession and wishes that the other lacked it."
This blog is full of parents with envy that just can't move on when they leave a team or simply aren't good enough to stay on a team. They whine about cards,coaches and envelopes etc...... Let it go and worry about your own team.
Ok lets put things into perspective about these 'unprofessional' coaches. They both have online resumes on LinkedIn...check them out.
STA Red Coach Current :
- Assistant Coach Sky Blue FC Womens Professional Team
- Head Coach Jersey Blues FC (Sky Blue Reserve Team)
- Assistant Coach NJIT Womens Soccer (D1 College)
STA White Coach Current :
- Head Coach NJ Blaze Womens in the WPSL
- STA Small-Sided Girls Director
- Also Head Coaches STA U8G, U13G and U18G
Add to this many previous successful jobs in soccer and extensive qualifications... I would say they are both pretty professional!
If your daughter was in STA being coached by these coaches, you would be very happy. The only kids that have left these 2 teams in the past 2 years have been cut by the coaches for either not being good enough or problems with parents. No player has ever left either team by their own choice.
Only people outside STA bash STA, just like people outside Jackson bash them, outside PDA bash them, Brick, Force and all other teams.
STA have very good coaches throughout all age groups, and the U12 Red/White are just 2 of them. PDA and many other clubs have good coaches. Lets just respect each other and get on with supporting our own teams.
Hopefully we can move on from this. Good luck to all this Spring! (from an STA parent who is not crazy and actually wishes you all well)
As for the STA vs Crush Storm game. Crush has no good mids, the back is good and they olny have a few good fowards. STA is hit or miss. Anyone can win this one
At least 7 parents pulled their kids from STA because of Red coach. Meaning they just never came back for tryouts. A couple left in the middle of the season. Besides losing all that tuition $$$ they lose $$$ on supplemental training. The u12 team will be the last young team he will ever coach. Has ZERO communication skills with parents, kids, refs, other coach's etc... STA will rise again when coach is finally gone. How many kids on Red team? Can't even get 18 quality players. Just say'n!!!
18 quality players for U12? I prefer not to have anymore than 15 maybe 16. And please show me a U12 team that has 18 quality players. It's not possible. Sure they may be decent but most teams have a core of 8 to 10. Sounds smart to me to carry a smaller squad. More playing time for the kids and better development. If your daughter is on a team of 18 you might want to consider other teams.
There is no reason to play many games. The girls are growing and too many games will lead to injury. I agree you are better off with a small squad of consistent players that have potential rather than a big squad focused on winning games.
Games increases soccer IQ. Play many games and let the whole roster play to develop game confidence. Imagine train, train, train then sit on bench for most of game. Development? I think not.
Play 11 v 11 games, play 8 v 8, play outdoor, indoor, futsal. Play small 3 v 3 summer. Play one ,two, even three leagues.Play on age, play up. Guest play.
Coach must be doing something right, to be there after losing 7 girls.
I don't know the details, what problems arose, but coaches have different styles - and anything that is not abusive should be looked at with a less critical eye.
I believe the Red team has 13 maybe 14 players. Coach can!t get other parents to drink his kool aid. You know white team parents will never drink the red kool aid. And no parent after reading this blog will let their kids go to STA.
At least the Red team has a coach. My sons teams coach stepped down because he no longer wanted to coach, wanted to be a parent. Now his son is going to play somewhere else. The beginning of the end.
I would not put that past him. Why should he care about them now, he has chosen their replacements by now. More girls changing teams every year, they will be looking again next year.
PDA forfeited game because the coach had carding issues when questioned by ref at check in. Forfeited and did not play. Girls left out. old news , but seems to be a pattern with pda younger age coaches of disappointing the team. Need back ground checks, credentials checked, and please stop the Daddy coaches at so called academy coaches of teams. With so many other great options and coaches, why Daddy and open team up to possible issues/problems.
Why would a coach take a player back to a team after the player left and family bad mouthed the coach non stop for a year? I understand the player needs a place to play, but can a coach be that desperate? What message oes that send to the team?
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1223 Newer› Newest»I am the 5:14 poster, and not the original football dad. Just another football dad that sees his point.
I assumed he played locally because he said his son played Pop Warner and he only spent $1200 total for his son's youth career.
Sometimes things are as the seem, even on this blog. Not everyone is looking to deceive.
So right back at you, 5:30.
And yes, I stated what I think was his point in obvious terms, because so many people seemed to misinterpret it.
So even you can understand it, 5:30.
You're welcome, have a nice evening.
Exactly the point I was trying to make. I love my daughter and want her to play soccer or whatever she wants. I just didn't think I would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars by the time she graduates high school to get her there. Not when I had a much easier road for my son. Doesn't seem fair, does it? Who's to blame? Hard to say.
Basketball is to Blame !
AAU basketball started the whole club process, and greedy coaches /trainers went from there. Parents spending to much money on trainers, when in FB we taught our boys how to play but most us would rather pay then then play/learn soccer. Then players on teams started playing for free with bigger clubs to attract and keep them.
Sponsors now finance Basketball AAU teams with all kinds of back door deals to coaches and players, and soon they will come to youth soccer too. It will get dirty as these leagues keep expanding and hunger for money.
What to do? My daughter plays on various teams for free.
U R a jerk. Pay your way freeloader
Do you really think all that Pop Warner was free? Some one paid for
the equipment. Some one paid for the field? Some one paid for the refs?
Can you say equipment companies.
Can you say property taxes.
Can you say ...?
Can you say boys football is some how
subsidized.
Read This:
http://nationalpremierleagues.com/home/713988.html
20 game seasons? Home and home with every team in the league? Lots of hotel stays. Can anyone say HELOC?
And if you want to talk real money.
My brother is paying a fortune for
my nephew to play Ice Hockey.
My daughter's soccer is a fraction
of that amount.
But ice hockey is for equipment , ice time, etc. at least you know where a lot of the money goes. Also many of the good hockey teams are not from this area so competition is scarce. Travelling makes more sense. That's not so in our game. Great competition at our door. Soccer requires cleats and a ball.Period.
Did anyone go to the NJSA/jackson tryouts? Not hearing anything!
When there is nothing worth telling then you do not hear anything. NJSA.....yawn.
Re: Match Fit comp
The Lady Falcons are playing U12 B teams - and some U11s - in NPL.
The Match Fit U12s play the tougher U12s (NPL U12 Blue Division)
If there are u-11 teams in a league I still question the competition.NJ crush is playing u11 in both blue and white
divisions. Personally I think EDP has many more competitive teams than NPL NY.
Won't matter because next fall NPL Northeast division will consist of 11 ecnl clubs, with the majority having good track records across most of their age groups. We'll see how the 20 game schedule pans out.
Agreed should be interesting. Playing for a team in the south , EDP is much closer for us. I am not one of those parents who,likes a three hour drive or a hotel stay for a Sunday game. Hope EDP remains competitive.
Won't matter because next fall NPL Northeast division will consist of 11 ecnl clubs, with the majority having good track records across most of their age groups. We'll see how the 20 game schedule pans out."
The truth of the matter is that the ECNL b teams will be playing in the NPL. and there is a big gap between the first and second teams. the second teams will have a tough time competing against other clubs A teams. ECNL hoping they will hang unto their players . It will be hard to do as other ECNL 1st teams are looking for good players and the pool of technical players become thinner and thinner.
With no real commitment to training the developmental team, This model will quickly fail!
Match Fit and Crush will stay in NPL New York Division at U12
It'll be plenty strong.
Why are we discussing U11 teams?
1:58 agree
And why would a college coach down the road come watch a b team. A player that can not make the 24 girl roster of the A team, and is playing against b team level competition.
The housing market did this a few years back, then the bubble broke.
Controlled humble expansion is good, out-of-control greedy expansion, busts.
One reason they might go watch a B team is that they cannot get any players from the A team.
Are there enough A team players to fill all the college rosters?
Don't know, just offering another viewpoint.
And to clarify, I am talking about a B team for a high level A team, not some low level club.
the b teams will be watered down at the ecnl clubs. the better girls on the B team will leave if they dont make the top ECNL team.. no need to stay there if you can play NPL for a better club team or another Ecnl team.-parents aren't that stupid.
You will have a mediocre NPl league for ECNL clubs. that will not be able to compete. the ecnl clubs have to find a way of keeping the stronger girls who are not on the ECNL roster.
Could be.
But if the (B) team is playing a strong tournament schedule, could be you are mistaken.
If the (B) team is a team that has been together for quite some time, could be you are wrong.
It's really not much of an issue.
This matchfit B team talk is similar to PDA Hornets and Madrid parents who strut around saying their kid is on PDA which in reality is not true. Only true PDA quality team is the Splash
Hornets just the other night had a quality effort, I thought....
Not PDA?
Because they didnt win, I guess.
Dreadful thought process.
Hey coach, come see me play on the B Team. Not good enough to even make the non-playing roster of the 15th,16th players on THE "A" TEAM.
And our real head coach today is with the A team, just an assistant or glorified parent filling in today.
Splash lost their own tournament? fixed it to get to finals and then laid an egg. Splash couldn't even score.
Not really sure what you are talking about (Splash didn't score)? I watched that PDA final between Splash and Bucks. Score was 1-1 and Splash lost in PKs. Good game both ways. Bucks is good team that will be in ECNL with Splash in a few years. We are not on either team, just waiting for our game to start.
Notice how quiet Jackson Attack & Sharks parent have been because there is nothing to talk about. Attack lost in consolation round of State Cup & haven't won a game in EDP as expected & Sharks doing just as poor yet they were going back & forth for who is the A-team in Jackson which doesn't really matter since they would be even Freehold's B-team. Glad they are gonme so we can discuss soccer.
The Sharks are doing better than the Attack. The Attack has not won a game since November 2012 I am sure their parents are not to happy. The Sharks are winning more games and are ranked higher than the Attack. The Attack are a kick and run team, the Sharks play soccer. Try outs are next week and the Sharks are in charge so they are the A Team. The Attack are the B Team in Jackson no question. If any of the good Attack players want to come to a winning team, they should speak up next week.
And now the Freehold talk begins again. Back to sharks and Freehold Crap
Did mike wake up and get rid of that no CARD piece of ?
This blog is full of misinformation.The sharks are not in charge.The Attack is not the B team.The team has won since November.The sharks gave jackson the bad reputation by coming on here with garbage!
Wow sounds like the Jackson trash are out in force now. Looking at Got Soccer and JAGS it looks like the Attack have only won 1 game since November, not very good. The Sharks are ranked higher than the Attack on Got Soccer. The Sharks are the A Team as far as Jacskon Soccer web site, I really do not see much misinformation. I think we have a upset Attack parent, Don't get mad at the blog because you guys can't finish. This just shows the lack of maturity in your town.
Look again!First you stated they didnt win (not true).Then you stated they are the B Team (not true) check the site again.Upset Attack parent(not true)and who is the mature one?
Either way Attack & Sharks would be most Club's B & C teams. Attack & Sharks where are the wins in JAGS, EDP or State Cup??? Where have you won? Can we just make a new league & just put both of these teams in with Freehold & let them just keep playing themselves then they can have their own blog to discuss nonsense about how good they are & the fact that they don't just play kickball. Reality they are not well coached or trained, maybe some good players but you wouldn't know in the environment they are in & Jackson parents have such a bad rep that it would be surprising if anyone took players from there.
Freehold crap? Seems to me that Freehold is consistently in the semi's of the state cup comps. My daughters team has never played them so I cant comment on style or brand of soccer but it does seem like they do well.
Sharks are the A team in Jackson look at the tryout schedule,the A teams are listed first. The Attack have always been jealous of us. You Attack parents need to chill out there is nothing wrong with being the B team you guys are good This was the first time you guys played up with the good teams and you lost and tied a lot. Stop your bitching, try outs are next week. Address your weak spots cut some girls and look to pick up some new talent, that is what we will be doing.
Who the heck cares what is going on
in Jackson? Let Jackson be Jackson.
If they want to hang out their soiled
laundry, let them. Just ignore it.
Be nice to have a team that all they do is play tournaments. No league, but all tournaments. Lots of scrimmages with other top local teams, but just tournaments for gotsoccer points. Think about it, maybe two weekends of a month playing, with actual family time the other two.
My daughter is on a great team and is a talented little soccer player, but we never see her, or her brother, and rarely have the whole family together anymore.
Even thinking of changing teams to make it all easier for everyone.
You can say what you want about freehold but they find a way to win!
In case you missed it, there are tryouts in Jackson next week! Good Luck! Freehold made it to the semi finals of US Club New Jersey Cup, Someone bashed PDA again and mocked parents of the "b" team or Hornets. Blah, Blah, Blah....Is there ever an original thought or insight into this age group? If you are/were educated in this game you will know that the top teams consistently will change players from the U14/15 to U17, many but not all or the top players will seek to play there (or at least their parents will want them to play on those teams). Several years back PDA had only one team per age group and it was very difficult to wear that Jersey, now when you speak to many parents in the soccer community they talk about their child playing for PDA, when you dig deeper they are not on the top team. There is nothing wrong with this, however, their are many other teams that are far better than those teams. And regularly beat them and play a much better style than those teams. Begs the question, should you play for a better club team than paying to play in these so called top clubs? It depends, many will not be happy unless they wear certain jersey's, even if it is not on the top team, with hopes that they will move up the ranks. The norm is it will not happen, better players will enter the mix in older age groups, and then you realize, we funded the club, we really didn't gain much from this experience, all the daily travel, yikes, did we make the right decision? Makes you wonder doesn't it.
Not bashing anyone, just providing some points for thought and comment...
GRADES GRADES GRADES GRADES GRADES
talked to college coach the other day, and he was complaining about his current players issues with grades and the parents position on the grades and possibly taking a semester off on soccer for better grades.
blew my mind when he said, I am looking for better students now, so I can put the best team on the field and rely on them. No more head cases or boarder line students.
Grades really are a non issue when it comes to women's soccer. It isn't because they don't matter, it's just that the demographics of girls' youth soccer normally produces quality students. Obviously, the better the school, the better the hs transcript needs to be. The are more than enough quality female soccer players out their that are also stars in the classroom.
If a school at any level is really interested in a player, more often than not she will have the grades to make it work.
I don't know who you are poster 11:36 but I love you.
PDA Hornets are improving. By U15 most of the NJ teams on this blog will not be able to beat them. Some current Splash players may move down, any new players trying out are trying out for the Hornets.
Don't believe it? Look at some of their older age groups. Their "B" teams compete in Region I Premier and National Leagues, with success. Several D1 college commits from those B teams.
The only thing that makes sense in your post. The hornets are a "B" team. Stop trying to justify why your daughter plays on a "b" team, you just want to say that your child plays for PDA...It is about you and not you child...That shines through very clearly to anyone that would read your comments
1:57
Are you a PDA A team parent or from another club (no need to name the club)?
Just wondering...
thanks
Green eyed monsters and dirty laundry!
1:57
Too funny, I am not associated with the Hornets in anyway. I do understand and agree with the philosophy of having B teams, both from a club and player standpoint.
There are many different situations why people would be ok with being on a B team. I am sure there are some that fall into the category of only wanting to wear a particular jersey. But they are likely the minority.
Are you really so jaded that you think that a U12 B team player cannot work hard and develop into an A team player at some point? What about A team players that slip a little, and need to drop down? What about the player that is a great athlete but is new to the game of soccer, and will come up the learning curve quickly? What about the player that lives 5 minutes from a great club, but is at their B team level? Should they travel an hour to be on another club's A team, if the training is the same?
Stop trying to fit everyone into your paradigm!
Americans or STA?
SJEB or NJ Force?
Always root for the Americans.
Americans
SJEB
B team is A team wanna bees.
Not good enough for A team. If you pay the same fees and get less, means you finance A team a little.
More teams means, you guest it.
More money.
Getting fat from b and C teams, and now "development players" players on A team, but not rostered and do not play.Practice dummies, but paying practice dummies.
You are what we think you are. 2nd rate B team, practice dummies.
So which B team was your daughter cut from?
Sorry, it'll be ok!
What are all your expectations for your daughters? College soccer? Scholarship?
B team and college do not mix. Play B team and have fun and enjoy while she gets great grades and gets academic scholarship. Good plan.
True for town or low level club B teams, and probably A teams as well in those instances.
true for all teams with little exceptions. B team. what is it.
Not good enough to make the 18-20 or in some instances 24-26 player roster. Not many colleges (except Comm College interested in the 20th something player. But when she quits soccer, only have to pay $5,000 a yr at Community College. We must see the good in everything.
WOW ! lots of B team parents on this blog.
You are all talking about 12 year old girls. Half of them will be playing another sport or hanging out with their boyfriends in 3 years. Why don't you all shut the hell up. You are a bunch of idiots.
Any score for STA and Americans
STA 2-0 over Americans Yee-Haw
@ April 29th, 4:56pm
STA White 2 TSF 1
Result speaks volumes
STA Red and White in Semi-Finals of Super and Premier Group. Well done to both teams on a good Spring!
Premier Group? Really! Who cares
Its 8:15. Do you know where your trash talking daddy is?
I love my B team!
STA white r u kidding. Still havnt scored in JAGS this season and scored one goal last season. Parents paying $2000 for what?
Result speaks volumes!?!
You were trashing TSF last week about how average they are, and now this result speaks volumes? Why because you beat a "less than average team" , I belive that was how you put it , WOW what a huge accomplishment!
$2,000?
No problem, you can find more than that in most of these people's couch cushions.
If they are really hurting, they just cut one of their $20K vacations back to $15K.
Everyone has to make sacrifices, after all.
15K, that the average salary of a family of 4 in Jackson. Is anyone going to Jackson Tryouts Monday and Wed? The posted on the nj.com boards that they have two top tier teams. How top tier are we talking?
What was the score of the TSF-Mt.Olive game today?
Count the state titles poor, piney , hick trash jackson high school has won in all sports over the years. Name your town , then compare, Thought so!!!
Who cares about the past. Today
is today.
You must be from? What was what town. I'm sorry you forgot to post your town. Again thought so !!!!
Nice accomplishment for STA, agreed
If you read back nobody was trashing TSF. An old STA parent said the result would speak volumes (indicating TSF would have an easy win over STA White) and the current STA parent responded after the win over TSF.
Lots of idiots on here that don't actually read what people say.
"May 3, 2013 at 4:03 PM
anonymous said...
What are all your expectations for your daughters? College soccer? Scholarship?"
For those of you who's heard me say this, you know who I am. My daughter will never play for the USWNT. She won't be a pro like Marta (I want her to be a Physician) and the Colleges that will offer scholarship - what NC, Notre Dame? Maybe. We are shooting for Princeton, or Cornell, hell, maybe Harvard or Yale. Columbia is in NYC, just across the river, so is Cooper Union (in case she ventures into Engineering). She's a straight A student who will do well in one of the top High Schools that is an Honors and AP program and get a very good SAT score. Soccer is the icing on top of the cake, along with Music, Art and Community Service.
I bow in the the presence of greatness.
May we get your autograph.
What a blowhard.
You STA parents are the idiots!
Any negative remark about your Siblings Training Arena and it's an "Old Parent" who is to blame. Get over it once and for all! Stop making your club and team look more pathetic.....
If you take the time to read back on April 30 @ 8 am the entire post was about how average the TSF team is and how if they beat STA it would be their only accomplishment. You my friend should read all posts before looking like an idiot, but that may be a lot to ask coming from Second Tier Academy!
The Jackson Sharks 0-Barron's-5 What is going on in Jackson
STA was once a reputable academy club. Behavior of coaches and parents have made them unprofessional. Why they would come on here and draw attention to themselves is beyond entertaining.
STAY AWAY from Jackson. The Sharks and Attack have horrible reputations. The coaches care only about playing their own kids, they teach poor sportsman ship and all of Jackson teams play kick and run ball. Just read what the parents of these teams post, read about what people say about Jackson it is crazy. Most people in soccer circles will tell you to stay away from Jackson Sharks and Attack. You should look at the open NJ Force try outs coming up. Go to our web page and reach out, you will be very happy and if you make it you will be playing for the number 2 ranked team in the state. If you want to play for coaches who don't care about their teams, who mentally abuse their girls and only care about how far their girls can kick the ball than you should go to try outs next week. You will be sorry, just ask around.
Didn't NJ Force lose to Haddonfield Red Bulldawgs a couple weeks ago in JAGS?
Second in the state... Really?
Who is the active coach of the Force
WOW! werent your tryouts last week? I guess nobody showed up to improve your 11 person roster.Guest players can do wonders in tournaments but its not who you are...stop telling lies about Jackson!!!!
I wish we could arrange a meeting for all the dads that post on here...
We could all sit in a circle... Air our views in public...
Then I would beat the crap out of all of you.
Absolute losers. Shut up and just support your daughters team. They are 12...and all they care about is playing. You are an embarrassment to your child.
Sounds like a Jackson parent.
Lot's of talk on the sidelines at tryouts about teams and clubs. Sharks, Morris United STA and Attack have horrible reputations and everyone should stay away. This blog confirmed it!
Don't forget the FORCE sideline.
The Attack should not be lumped in with the Sharks. We are a better team with better players who are like a family. You guys are just jealous that we have come so far in such a short timeframe. Our competition are teams like PDA not the Sharks The NJ Force are just upset that they beat us by PK's and we outplayed them both times. We are going to regroup over the summer and start the next season off winning the Jackson Classic again, after that we are gunning for PDA Splash; STA, Freehold and Force are jokes If you want to come to a top team that is a family come to tryouts this week and see just how good we are. And for all of the haters on this blog you should do something more productive with your life. GO ATTACK
Any thoughts on the final 4 of Club State Cup.
Nj force crush vs. freehold
sta vs. nj crush storm.
Has anyone seen these teams lately. Any changes in the strength of these teams.?
Great four teams in semis- NJ Crush Storm, NJ Force Crush, Freehold, STA
What happened to PDA and Brick?
True or false? STA now going to acting schools to find coach's. They just look for the best English accents and pay $10 an hr.
Kinda of strange not seeing pda in any semis in u-11,12,13. Only entering B teams that get knocked out early? or are these the A teams losing too.
Still do not understand the concept of a player playing B team, but certainly understand the club having other teams for money.
NJ FORCE over United 3-0. Interesting game considering several United players joining the FORCE after this season.
Crush over STA in PK's
"May 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM
anonymous said...
I bow in the the presence of greatness.
May we get your autograph.
What a blowhard."
What - you do not want this for your daughter?
The main point is for soccer to be a happy end healthy sport for the girls. It doesn't matter if you play for a top tier team such as PDA or Match Fit. It's more important to have a good experience at the appropriate level. All thing being equal, it's her Academics that will determine her future.
If she's good player, it's an plus for her college resume. No one gets to Ivy League just because you're the best soccer player in the area.
@ April 30, 2013 at 8:20 AM
@ May 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM
For a coach from Morris United STA to come on and post these sure proves that they are NOT a qualified member of a professional group!
"TSF :
Won any big tournaments? No
Ranking points? No
Do well in EDP? No
Ever play any of the big teams in NJ? No
Very average TSF.
If you beat STA B team in the second level of State Cup...congrats...that will be the biggest thing you have done yet.
Be wise TSF parents posting on this blog when you are very average and have done nothing yet to prove otherwise."
Then to come on the board and post this:
"STA White 2 TSF 1
Result speaks volumes
STA Red and White in Semi-Finals of Super and Premier Group. Well done to both teams on a good Spring!"
Well done as your accent has pointed you out. WOW and to only beat them by 1 point. No wonder your so proud!
You really need to get over your obsession with STA and move on. I'm sure your daughter has already.
STA Red has a good bunch of parents and kids. I've been around them over the years and can't say much negative about them.
May 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM
AGREE with you
Glad you agree with yourself.
STA Coaches don't post on this blog. It's the parents. I'd be surprised if any coaches post on this blog!
OK coach! Lesson learned that STA parents are crazy.........
Pot, meet kettle.
Really!?! No coaches post on this blog, you are a fool if that's what you really think. It's all about feeding their ego!
Fine then, STA Red parents are not crazy........but their coach is.
Hey buddy!
Get a job
Sorry, you took that because you were better on your knees! How are those scabs??
Post 5-6-8:17 AM
Thanks for your advice, however I don't really need it. If I wanted my daughter to play for either Jackson teams or STA or even for PDA that would be none of your business.I won't bring my daughter to either Jackson teams,(to far of ride)but I am cosidering PDA and STA!
Please post your team, so I can avoid it as if it has a plague....which it does.....YOU!
just another B team player, but we need your money.
May 6, 2013 at 4:37 PM
STA parent no doubt! As no one else would compare the two clubs as even similar to one another. Since again you have drawn attention to yourselves, please tell me the difference between Morris United STA and Sone Training Academy?
Or are these both clubs we should stay away from?
STILL....you have not posted your daughter's team!
The people that post on this blog
are telling the truth.....
just like all the people in jail are innocent!!!
Second their academy "STA" white actually scored a goal in JAGS this week, congratulations I believe that's you now tied your fall total.
Second Tier Academy??
NPL acceptence, full of college coaches and coaches that were professional in their home country, a brand new turf complex almost finished and ready to use, Red and White teams at all ages Boys and Girls...
You must be one sad bitter parent that got cut... Or didn't make it at their tryouts. STP - Second Tier Parent.
Fusion Elite wins 1-0 in overtime! Onto the semi finals...
STA parent please don't waste your breath justifying your teams to some moron anonymous poster. My daughter has played against your red team several times and I've always been impressed by your girls style of play and especially your parents conduct on sideline. Quite frankly it's probably the most quiet sideline I have witnessed. I've also had nice conversations with both the red and white coach. Both are good coaches and pretty down to earth guys. The red coach is tough on them but it seems the girls respect and play very hard for him and the teams success speaks for itself. Ignore all the negativity and don't respond cause it just stirs the pot.
Predictions for state cup finals?
Here's my two cents.
Super group: force over freehold 2-1 in semis
STA over nj crush 1-0
STA over Force in final 2-1
Premier group
middlettown over copa 2-1
sTA over Haddomfield 3-1
Final: Middletown over STA in PKs,
STA and Crush should be a good game.
STA strong defense and solid striker. Crush excellent midfield play. Both teams now play more direct which is helping them win games. Very little build up from the back. See the goalies punt the balls down the field.
not meant to disrespect either team, its just much easier to play this way. Less mistakes. Better chance to win the game.
Not very many teams at this age group play possession soccer anymore.!!!
STA has a new complex?
Looking forward to seeing it.
What town is that in?
Complex is off Ketch close to the middle school. I don't think it's STA but a shared town/Morris United complex. STA will have access to it. STA Red I agree has very good parents.
New complex for STA is at the site of the old Graystone facility, accessed by either Kotch Road or Stiles/Central Ave in Morris Plains. Paved the pedestrian walkways this week. Base/drainage lights all up. Fields all prepped. Last step is to lay the turf. Expected completion mid June. Four new lighted turf fields. Two of which are exclusively for Morris Utd/STA, the other two to be shared by Parsippany, Randolph and Hanover I believe.
Second teir academy. Will your new fiends have goals? May be your teams can learn to shoot and score more than one goal a season. Just say'in
The only "goal" I'm concerned about is keeping hateful people like you out of the club.
so you can be the "king hateful"
person in the club?
"Second teir academy. Will your new fiends have goals? May be your teams can learn to shoot and score more than one goal a season. Just say'in'
Spell much? I thought this location was too far for Jackson.
9:34am
Please come and introduce yourself to all of us this weekend and tell us what your problem is with STA.
You will find both our Red and White teams at the US Club Cup Semi-Finals.
Oh wait... You won't be there. Maybe next year.
For the record, I am posted 9:44, not 10:26. I have 2 kids that play for STA and both are extremely happy. That's my only goal, having them be part of a respectful, peaceful team and watching them progress in their development. Both of these things I've been very happy with on the two teams we are a part of over the several years we've been part of the club.
Obviously there's been a back and forth between 2 people, one of whom I believe is probably a member of STA Magic White and the other who was one of the malcontents thrown off Magic White. Obviously the "ex" is going to keep his diatribe going any way he can to tarnish the reputation of the rest of the club. I urge you current parent to stop engaging and stooping to his level. Otherwise you are no better.
NJ FORCE will Crush Freehold "United" this weekend.
@ 9:42am
Hey coach you should read some of the comments on this blog. It seems your academy is full of hateful parents and coaches. I would be ebarrased with some of the comments I've seen posted on here if I knew they came from my club. You really should keep the inmates in check.
MF responses due just as PDA tryouts end. MF looking to lock players up with immediate money due prior to PDA getting offers out. It will only be $3K this year until it jumps to $8K at U14.
May 7, 2013 at 10:35 AM
CLEARLY you are no better! Are you the one with the scabs on her knees? Get your facts straight! You should be embarrased for commenting on the girls that left the club.
We have all seen the threatning text that the STA coach sent to the parents. We have also heard the threatning taped phone conversation that the whaco coach stated he was going to ruin these innocent girls if they left him.
Glad your happy with your club. STAY THERE! We don't want crazy STA parents at ours!
I actually never said anything against the girls. Just referring to what I've heard about the specific PARENTS and you are definitely proving the truth to the rumors.
And one further comment before I disengage from this ridiculous conversation is that the only one who is going to "ruin your innocent daughter" with all this unrelenting hate is YOU.
No hate! Just facts!
You have proven to be one of those crazy STA parents who goes along and produces the BS out of that club. My children never played for STA and never will with the display your club and coaches have put forth.
Wow the last 10 or so posts have made me think "Go Haddomfield and NJ Force!
Most of the games have been decided by 1 goal! Anyone can beat anyone!
Worse than following a soap opera. If I understand correctly this is the STA white team and not the red team correct? I've always heard the red team is very close knit.
This is about STA in general. People seem to have a problem with 2 things :
The White team overall
The Red Team Coach
Red Coach is fine, has control of the situation and will continue to be that way.
White team rarely scores. Doesn't win much. Not fun. Typical B team
Most STA coaches are now being discredited for behavior pertaining to the issues on this blog. The Red coach has been quoted by a few of his parents to have been involved with the white coaches threats! A reputable club should have stopped this from going further.
Can we talk on the field soccer for a bit? Days of our lives channel 4 at 100 for the drama,
It wasn't the white coach with these text/phonecall threats. Red coach lost a player to PDA Splash and ruined relationship with that entire family.
Nothing to do with White team.
No. It was pda that had to forfeit games because of carding issues and coaches card. It was pda that had a coach bolt from a tournament after arriving late and staying out late the night before and leaving for so called basketball with daughter. pda Daddy coach. But STA has it's own issues apparently too.
Not just Red coach,STA white coach as well very unprofessional.
5:42pm
Why?
The carding situation happen last season......
Can’t you just leave it go???
No matter what STA coaches have done... Nothing tops the names in the envelope by NJ Force coach!
Red Coach needs to go back to Holland. Even his so called frienda, coach's bash him when he's not around. The red team parents are drinking Jim Jones kool aid.
I happen to like kool aid
Envy can be defined as a resentful emotion which "occurs when a person lacks another's (perceived) superior quality, achievement or possession and wishes that the other lacked it."
This blog is full of parents with envy that just can't move on when they leave a team or simply aren't good enough to stay on a team. They whine about cards,coaches and envelopes etc...... Let it go and worry about your own team.
What happened with the envelop???
What does that mean???
Ok lets put things into perspective about these 'unprofessional' coaches. They both have online resumes on LinkedIn...check them out.
STA Red Coach Current :
- Assistant Coach Sky Blue FC Womens Professional Team
- Head Coach Jersey Blues FC (Sky Blue Reserve Team)
- Assistant Coach NJIT Womens Soccer (D1 College)
STA White Coach Current :
- Head Coach NJ Blaze Womens in the WPSL
- STA Small-Sided Girls Director
- Also Head Coaches STA U8G, U13G and U18G
Add to this many previous successful jobs in soccer and extensive qualifications... I would say they are both pretty professional!
If your daughter was in STA being coached by these coaches, you would be very happy. The only kids that have left these 2 teams in the past 2 years have been cut by the coaches for either not being good enough or problems with parents. No player has ever left either team by their own choice.
Only people outside STA bash STA, just like people outside Jackson bash them, outside PDA bash them, Brick, Force and all other teams.
STA have very good coaches throughout all age groups, and the U12 Red/White are just 2 of them. PDA and many other clubs have good coaches. Lets just respect each other and get on with supporting our own teams.
Hopefully we can move on from this. Good luck to all this Spring! (from an STA parent who is not crazy and actually wishes you all well)
you mean that the girl that went to the splash was cut.
you want to try that one again.
As for the STA vs Crush Storm game. Crush has no good mids, the back is good and they olny have a few good fowards. STA is hit or miss. Anyone can win this one
A true professional not only has a strong résumé but also should have the character to back it up.
Misinformed information again. Getting old.......
Maybe now all coaches can post their LinkedIn now that STA has.
Crazy, Crazy, CRAZY!
@May 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM
This is why STA's new complex is at Graystone!
9:11 poster
Save the bait
Wow sounds like STA is just as disfunctional as Jackson. Anyone here anything about Jackson tryouts anyone of interest show up?
If you got cut by STA white,give up on soccer you suck,try something else you are a loser.....
If you posted on May 7th at 11:29pm... Give up on soccer you suck. Find something else YOU are a loser!
May 7th @ 8:44pm -
YouTube 'Being Liverpool Envelope'
Force Coach did that to his players. Terrible.
And NJYS still allows that Force Blow Hard coach to be carded, that's rediculous the envelpe deal.
Nice spelling 6:53 AM. Lets all take a guess where you are from and maybe where your daughter used to play.
At least 7 parents pulled their kids from STA because of Red coach. Meaning they just never came back for tryouts. A couple left in the middle of the season. Besides losing all that tuition $$$ they lose $$$ on supplemental training. The u12 team will be the last young team he will ever coach. Has ZERO communication skills with parents, kids, refs, other coach's etc... STA will rise again when coach is finally gone. How many kids on Red team? Can't even get 18 quality players. Just say'n!!!
People have absolutely left the STA Red and white teams because they wanted to.
18 quality players for U12? I prefer not to have anymore than 15 maybe 16. And please show me a U12 team that has 18 quality players. It's not possible. Sure they may be decent but most teams have a core of 8 to 10. Sounds smart to me to carry a smaller squad. More playing time for the kids and better development. If your daughter is on a team of 18 you might want to consider other teams.
unless your team is very busy playing many games!
There is no reason to play many games. The girls are growing and too many games will lead to injury. I agree you are better off with a small squad of consistent players that have potential rather than a big squad focused on winning games.
Games increases soccer IQ. Play many games and let the whole roster play to develop game confidence.
Imagine train, train, train then sit on bench for most of game. Development? I think not.
Play 11 v 11 games, play 8 v 8, play outdoor, indoor, futsal. Play small 3 v 3 summer. Play one ,two, even three leagues.Play on age, play up.
Guest play.
Why did pda forfeit games?
STA Red is the team in the semis?
Coach must be doing something right, to be there after losing 7 girls.
I don't know the details, what problems arose, but coaches have different styles - and anything that is not abusive should be looked at with a less critical eye.
I believe the Red team has 13 maybe 14 players. Coach can!t get other parents to drink his kool aid. You know white team parents will never drink the red kool aid. And no parent after reading this blog will let their kids go to STA.
Having only 14,15 players means everyone is getting a wonderful opp to play a lot. Playing soccer means actually playing soccer in games.
A lot of money wasted on being a bench number. I was going to say player, but players play.
Maybe practice dummy is better or even player donation giver.
Right because all parents and players come here to decide what team they play for.
At least the Red team has a coach. My sons teams coach stepped down because he no longer wanted to coach, wanted to be a parent. Now his son is going to play somewhere else. The beginning of the end.
Plenty of solid coaches out there
Dont hang your child's hat on any one coach......
Soon it will be HS and he/she will need to change gears, get used to a new voice.
May 8, 2013 at 6:53 AM
Good old JS at it again. LOL, you went on your way and your still trying to stir the pot! I wish you and your daughter good luck!
JS?
Did D.F. of Force really tell the girls that he thinks 3 of them will let the team down?
I would not put that past him. Why should he care about them now, he has chosen their replacements by now. More girls changing teams every year, they will be looking again next year.
PDA forfeited game because the coach had carding issues when questioned by ref at check in. Forfeited and did not play. Girls left out.
old news , but seems to be a pattern with pda younger age coaches of disappointing the team.
Need back ground checks, credentials checked, and please stop the Daddy coaches at so called academy coaches of teams. With so many other great options and coaches, why Daddy and open team up to possible issues/problems.
What carding issues did the pda coach have to cause a forfeit?
Forfeiting is major issue isn't it?
Is he/she still coaching at pda?
And that Daddy coach at Dragons, is he still coaching at pda after leaving the team at a tournament?
New Academy Rule:
All coaches must have no children, and must be sterilized prior to carding by either vasectomy or tying of tubes.
Daddy coaches should not be at any high level team coaching his daughter. Can coach up two years or below two years. Seems simple.
Cards and credenials should be reviewed every season as well as background check once a year.
Thuggery is DEAD
I guess Mia Hamm will never coach her
kids under your proposal.
Oh, Mia is a Mommy so will she be ok.
Bob Bradley coached Michael. USMNT.
Still plays under Klinsman.
No high level teams in New Jersey, so you are all ok.
NJ teams are legends in their own minds.
Relax. Has nothing to do if the coach is great or bad. The perception from all around on a day to day bases by little girls and big Daddy/Mommy.
pda Dragons coach is just a bad and unreliable coach.
According to the May 8 -5:21 poster
NJ teams are legends in their own minds.
Only a moron from Long Island would
make such a moronic comment. NJ
beats Long Island repeatedly-so take
a hike.
Who are the dragons? I never heard of them.
SC storm will be a top 10 powerhouse by October 2013
Why would a coach take a player back to a team after the player left and family bad mouthed the coach non stop for a year? I understand the player needs a place to play, but can a coach be that desperate? What message oes that send to the team?
10:43- what team?
Bitter? Hard when your child is in danger of losing a spot on the team! Causing drama won't help your little Mia
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