While we are talking about GDA for a second, did anyone hear that there was a 1 day summit held by US soccer in Chicago to talk about all things and hopefully answer questions for any DOC that have both GDA and ECNL at the same club...guess what...there was no one there to answer questions. The boys technical director was there, but no Jill Ellis, no April Heinrich. April was at a keeper/striker showcase, that I guess was more important *cough* or paid more money *cough*.Total mess, no alignment, no accountability...more clubs will follow Matchfit and drop GDA if they already have ECNL.
12:27 - Not true. Yes, and Springside Chestnut Hill, Agnes Irwin, Notre Dame, Lawrenceville, Villa Joe, Villa Marie, Episcopal, The Hill School, Wm. Penn Charter, Shipley, the Friends' schools, etc. are the same. And, are around the same as far as cost (give or take a few $$). There ARE kids on these teams (and the ones you named) that may opt out of high school ball for GDA. I doubt a school would bounce them for following a dream; in particular if the kid is a great student as well. That isn't how these schools work.
Oh and I am speaking of actual knowledge being a parent w/ kids in these schools.
1:31 - I think it shows how much the relationship between ECNL and USSF has declined.
@11:15 - I think a PF GDA would do well with a YSC GDA, if it should happen. The boys have Continental/Delco and Classics with DA's along with Union Academy/YSC as a neighbor. All of these DA's seem to do well and get along just fine. There is a lot of talent, players and coaches, in that area.
Disney Soccer Showcase (Girls)U16 USYS National LeagueAll divisions will still be up for grabs going into Vegas except for the Redwhich can have the title clinched if the first place team after Disney has 15 or more pointspoints - (goal diff) - teamBlack8 (10) FC KANSAS CITY ACADEMY BLUES ELITE 2001 (MO) 5 (1) NATIONALS UNION 01 GIRLS BLACK (MI) 4 (1) TOTAL FA ELITE 01 (OS) 3 (-2) SLSC COSMOS 01 LAWLESS (OK) Blue8 (5) MICHIGAN JAGUARS 01 GREEN (MI)8 (2) GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW)7 (1) LAKE FOREST SA 2001 SELECT (IL)1 (-10) TRIANGLE FUTBOL ALLIANCE 01 (NC) Red12 (9) CINCINNATI UNITED SC CUP GOLD (OS)9 (4) MIDWEST UNITED FC 01 ROYAL (MI)8 (3) UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA 01G PREMIER (GA) 6 (2) BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 0102 (VA)White8 (4) ELITE GIRLS ACADEMY 01 OMAHA MAROON (NE)5 (-2) NATIONALS UNION 01 GIRLS RED (MI) 4 (1) KINGS HAMMER ACADEMY KHA RED (OS) 3 (-3) CSA 01 PREDATOR GIRLS (NC) Region 1 ECNL teams that played at ECNL Phoenix4 (1) Richmond United ECNL U163 (-5) FC Virginia ECNL U16
http://www.ussoccerda.com/161223-wnt-jill-ellis-headlines-girls-development-academy-launch-meetingMerry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
Thanks for the post. Back at you re holiday greetings!!Saw this in the article, "Another aspect that Ellis touched on was how the Girls' Development Academy will be a revolutionary step towards de-emphasizing winning and losing. "This is not a league where it is about points and trophies," Ellis said. "This is a development platform, where it's about competing, growing and helping players get better. That base philosophy is going to send messages to coaches and the coaches will embrace it."Should be great!!!
• 10,700 Current players in the Development Academy• 1,544 Number of players to receive full scholarships from Academy ClubsGirls' Development Academy include more training, less total games, more meaningful games, international rules and standards. In other words a Team might have 24 players of which only 18 will dress for a game of which only 14 will play. The clubs will love this. MF and others that have moved away form the GDA might have moved away because of the higher standards and license requirements.ECNL "GOAL: The goal of the Elite Clubs National League is to change the landscape for elite female soccer players in the United States through innovative, player-centered programming and to enhance the overall experience by creating a better, more enjoyable, and more successful player, coach, and club development model". I will use the same example how is a roster of 24 creating a more enjoyable and successful player when 6 players don't dress?
PS. why did the post made on "December 22, 2016 at 1:31 PM" say no Jill Ellis?Why would you make up stuff? I know it's anonymous and all. Happy Holidays
You know this blog. It's whisper down the lane in print. Let's hope it was a mistake and unintentional.
@4:57 - I hear ya re some ECNL teams, but in some clubs, 6 many not dress for one game. Then the next day's game, another crew rotates out of a game and then on and then on.
5:30 do 24 players sit the same amount of league games and the same amount of showcase games then okay
@12/22 12:27RE: " All the areas top 2001 players of GDA quality will be committed by the spring if they aren’t already locked up now. So GDA isn’t needed for college exposure."My daughter has recently verbally committed...coach is adamant she push for GDA. Most good college programs are shooting for this level of play don't you think? Of course they want future players to receive the best training
7:24 what does that mean? She was given an offer as a Freshman in HS to play College Soccer D1? What did they say - hey come play for us we will give you ??$ if your grades are good enough for you to be admitted? I'm assuming the level of play cannot drop correct since a verbal is not a final offer?Never had the opportunity for some one to give some hardcore facts.Don't care about the school - just very curious how the offer was packaged?100%, 75%, 50% or was it a hard $$$
My kid has had two offers so far the first was packaged as a single percentage of all of the offer components: tuition, room and board, books, and cost of attendance. The other offer was packaged as 100% tuition, books, food (because all athletes eat free) but no cost of attendance or housing. One was fatter than the other but that school was in a lesser conference. Hope that helps
Thanks, my assumption she was given the coaches business card and she called. Good for her!!
Coach fell "in love" with her. She filled out early admissions application.Going down to visit school and meet the team soonNothing concrete yet but looking like 80-90%? Verbal is exactly that though...either one can back out until more concrete steps are taken
9:27 thanks - just picking your brain a little more. Did your child have contact with these schools prior to their interest? If so how was she identified at a game or an id clinic? I'm assuming D1 so the only way they talked was by your kid calling correct? My kid also received an early admission packet after attending an ID clinic just trying to gauge level of interest from this school or if this is normal every day stuff and what to expect next if anything. Once again thanks for sharing. Some scores from Wed December 28, 2016 - ECNL Florida1 Ohio Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U160 World Class FC ECNL U16 1 Maryland United FC ECNL U160 Tampa Bay United ECNL U161 WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U160 Sockers FC ECNL U16 6 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U162 SLSG - MO ECNL U16 5 Bethesda SC ECNL U161 Orlando City ECNL U16 1 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U161 Ohio Premier ECNL U16 0 FSA FC ECNL U166 McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U16 5 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U160 GSA ECNL U165 FC Bucks ECNL U163 FC Wisconsin Eclipse ECNL U16 2 Connecticut FC ECNL U161 D'Feeters Soccer Club ECNL U16 0 Lonestar SC ECNL U160 Albertson Fury ECNL U16 2 Solar Chelsea SC ECNL U162 PDA ECNL U16
Was observed at a "multi" school ID camp then again at a showcase. Yes she called and we were on campus for ID clinic where the conversation is a bit more "free"
Amazed at the results this morning. Great job by most of the local teams.
Some more scores2 Minnesota Thunder Academy ECNL U161 East Meadow SC ECNL U164 FC Virginia ECNL U161 Match Fit Academy ECNL U165 Continental FC ECNL U162 Atlanta Fire ECNL U16The only teams not winning were the NY/NJ teams they scored a whopping 4 in 5 games - I know it's a showcase and they wanted to show what they can do in front of those coaches. While the PA teams won all 3 and scored 16 goals in the process I know they played weaker teams.Sorry but have always had to listen about PDA/MF were NJ and EM was unstoppable. Along comes BYC and bam things are all out of whack FC Bucks was an ongoing joke but yet they outscored all the NY/NJ teams combined as did CFC Delco and PennFusion. With NEFC aka Boston Breakers and FC Stars looking like locks early on some of these big names won't be going to the playoffs (PDA/MF/WC/EM/Albertson). Lots of fun early on. Must admit did not see the PDA struggles (1 out of 4 .250%)
I am not sure, but a few weeks ago MF U16 beat the same team 4-0 in a similar showcase event in NC.
9:43 MF beat Beachside CT 4-0 at NEWWS - FC Virginia is another animal.Putting Youth Soccer Rankings to the test with today's results (60% accurate - Day 1)Correct: 91 Ohio Elite [39.02]0 World Class FC [38.17]1 Maryland United [38.04]0 Tampa Bay United [36.55]5 Bethesda SC [38.95]1 Orlando City [36.48] 0 FSA FC [37.14]6 McLean YS [40.19]5 FC Stars of Mass [40.38]0 GSA [36.35]5 FC Bucks [37.45]3 FC Wisconsin Eclipse [37.32]2 Connecticut FC [37.50]1 D'Feeters Soccer Club [34.99]4 FC Virginia [38.25]1 Match Fit Academy [38.03]5 Continental FC [36.83]2 Atlanta Fire [36.79]Wrong: 6 - 6 Penn Fusion [37.79]2 SLSG - MO [38.08]1 FC Boston Scorpions [34.75]1 Ohio Premier [38.93]0 Lonestar SC [38.04]0 Albertson Fury [38.17]2 Solar Chelsea [38.79]2 PDA ECNL [37.67]2 Minnesota Thunder [37.29]1 East Meadow SC [37.67]3 Richmond United [37.48]2 Boston Breakers [39.49]
These are the top teams in the region - Teams with a score of 37+ only.With ECNL, NPL showcases and Disney we should see a lot of change come January.1 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL [40.38]2 MCLEAN YS ECNL [40.19]3 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL [39.49]4 BETHESDA SC ECNL [38.95]5 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY [38.71]6 FC VIRGINIA ECNL [38.25]7 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL [38.18]8 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL [38.17]9 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL [38.17]10 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL [38.04]11 MATCH FIT ACADEMY ECNL [38.03]12 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS [38.01]13 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC [37.91]14 PENN FUSION SA ECNL [37.79]15 SUSA ISA NPL [37.78]16 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY [37.74]17 PDA SPLASH [37.67]18 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL [37.67]19 ARLINGTON SA RED [37.63]20 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME [37.59]21 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL [37.56]22 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL [37.50]23 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL [37.48]24 FC BUCKS ECNL [37.45]25 CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD [37.44]26 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP [37.44]27 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK [37.42]28 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL [37.33]29 BEACH FC RED [37.29]30 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES [37.19]31 FSA FC ECNL [37.14]32 NEFC BREAKERS NS ELITE [37.03]
Some scores from Thu December 29, 20163 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U162 Vardar ECNL U161 SLSG - MO ECNL U162 Ohio Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U160 WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U164 Minnesota Thunder Academy ECNL U161 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U161 Maryland United FC ECNL U161 FC Wisconsin Eclipse ECNL U161 FSA FC ECNL U160 PDA ECNL U161 FC Virginia ECNL U16 2 Sockers FC ECNL U162 East Meadow SC ECNL U163 Jacksonville FC ECNL U160 Connecticut FC ECNL U168 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U161 Internationals SC ECNL U16 2 NJ Crush FC Storm (NJ)5 VA RUSH 013 CFC UNITED NPL 011 PWSI Courage 011 Florida Krush White2001 2 PENN FUSION 01G NPL
Virginia is just good at all age groups. Penn Fusion at the least very good at U15/16. PDA continues to decline, but at least playing good teams and learning I hope. Just remember ladies and gents. Losing is sometimes good. Do you really think at U16/17/18 on and on that you can win every match? What are you learning if you win all the time 3-0, 2-0, 4-0 so on so forth. Lose once in a while, to a great team, no shame, no shame at all. When you think about it you want to play better teams to get better.
MF did not beat the same team, the composite event did not send their ECNL teams only MF did. FC Virginia ECNL team played at CASL that weekend.
MF loses again today 4-2. Way to go!
Some more scores.PDA 0-2-3 this season 3 Ls out of 5 with zero Ws. We are talking PDA and we all know this has never happened before at any ECNL age group previously for them. But you sell it the way you want, at least Madrid is winning and how about FC Bucks?0 Bethesda SC ECNL U160 Tophat SC ECNL U164 FC Bucks ECNL U160 Richmond United ECNL U163 West Coast FC ECNL U161 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U162 World Class FC ECNL U160 West Florida Flames ECNL U160 Continental FC ECNL U164 McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U162 Match Fit Academy ECNL U164 Lonestar SC ECNL U165 FC Dallas ECNL U160 Albertson Fury ECNL U16 0 SUSA G01 Elite White3 CONTINENTAL FC PREMIER '012 AFC Lightning '01 Gold2 FC Virginia United Elite 013 PDA MADRID 1 Riverhounds Development Academy0 FSA FC GIRLS 01 NPL2 LNSC ECLIPSE BLUE 022 PDA Florida 01G Blue6 WORLD CLASS FC '01 STYLES
It looks like the age realignment affected the Splash in a negative way. Madrid might have faired better. We all knew things were going to change. Let's see how PDA'S other team look moving foward.
Seems that way with Match Fit as well
Splash has not been good for about 2 years now. MF hurting obviously. Mclean is on fire. World Class and Dallas wow.
How is it possible for the Splash to have 40 players on the roster?
Match Fit lost all 3 games to all middle\lower level ECNL Teams. Ouch!Lost 1-4 FC Virginia (Team Record 6-3-4)Lost 2-4 Lonestar (Team Record 6-4-4)Lost 0-1 Richmond (Team record 4-7-2)
I just don't think teams have actual ratings anymore. 90% of most teams are at least 50% changed. I think the bigger clubs will continue to move players around from within there own club. The clubs with large numbers in the same age group will have an advantage. This upcoming spring season will be telling!
Looks like Match Fit could use last years defenders. This is a result of not appreciating what you once had.
looks like the players that left are not replaceable as MF parents on this blog stated.
Where did they go and why, 6:35?
Match Fit lies, promises.
5:18 What's your problem? Little Suzie didn't make the team? Worry about your kid's team. EDP is not the end of the world.
Or maybe Little Suzie made the choice to leave and go to a more reputable club.
Maybe little Suzie left, but little Suzie's mom or dad should have the class to leave without bitching like a she was a jealous parent.Serious question, what are the legitimate odds of little Suzie's team beating MF 2001 ECNL?
Did someone say odds? Using youthsoccer usa rankingsMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL [36.62]SJEB would be a -1.86 favorite.WC ECNL would be -1.78 favoritePDA ECNL would be -1.60 favoritePDA Madrid would be -1.06 favoriteNJ Wildcats Fury would be -0.78 favoriteNJ STALLIONS -0.14 favoriteJERSEY SHORE BOCA -0.13 favorite MIDDLETOWN SC -0.09 favoriteWC NPL -0.03 favoriteMF favorite over all others (NJ)The updated Region 1 scores 37+1 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL [40.24]2 MCLEAN YS ECNL [40.22]------------------------------------------------3 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL [39.62]4 BETHESDA SC ECNL [39.12]------------------------------------------------5 PENN FUSION SA ECNL [38.92]6 FC BUCKS ECNL [38.55]7 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY [38.48]8 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL [38.40]9 FC VIRGINIA ECNL [38.34]1o MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL [38.29]11 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL [38.22]12 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL [38.05]------------------------------------------------13 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC [37.80]14 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS [37.79]15 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL [37.78]16 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY MADRID [37.68]17 SUSA ISA NPL [37.60]18 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY [37.55]19 ARLINGTON SA RED [37.47]20 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL [37.46]21 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL [37.40]22 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL [37.37]23 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME [37.35]24 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP [37.32]25 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL [37.24]26 CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD [37.22]27 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK [37.15]28 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL [37.05]29 BEACH FC RED [37.03]
Eastern Regional League flights posted37.80 D1 Greater Binghamton FC 01 Select 37.79 D1 Premier SC Navy 200137.55 D1 BRYC Elite Academy 01/0237.47 D1 Arlington SA 2001 Girls Red37.35 D1 1776 United FC Xtreme37.22 D1 Century V 01 Gold36.76 D1 NJ Stallions Academy 01 Freedom NPL36.56 D1 FC Frederick FC '0136.31 D1 Empire United SA Rochester G16 200136.13 D1 Harford FC United Thunder 01/0236.06 D1 Pipeline SC Black36.03 D1 Beadling SC Elite35.84 D1 Loudoun Soccer 01G Red35.64 D1 Empire United SA Buffalo G16 200134.50 D1 Davidsonville Dynamite33.82 D1 Northern Steel Eclipse------------------------------------------------------37.15 D2 Lehigh Valley United 2001 Girls Black36.29 D2 HMMS Eagle FC 01 UNITED36.22 D2 Fury Soccer Club Athletica35.92 D2 Syracuse Development Academy 2001 ORANGE35.56 D2 Severna Park Black Thunder '0135.39 D2 Yardley Makefield Soccer Premier 01' Banshees35.27 D2 PDA Shore Fusion35.22 D2 LTSC 2001 Strikers (Purple)35.11 D2 Hotspurs Soccer Club 2001 Blue34.61 D2 Rochester Futbol Club Girls 01 33.47 D2 DMS Soccer 2001 Academy Black33.40 D2 SAC Premier White 2001s33.22 D2 Rochester Junior Rhinos 2001 Girls 00.00 D2 Foothills Power00.00 D2 SCS United Elite
Some more YouthSoccer rankings- sorry couldn't do EDP -not sure which teams are inQualified for NPL Finals 201736.70 VIRGINIA RUSHNorthEast NPL38.05 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL37.68 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY MADRID36.65 WORLD CLASS FC NPL36.33 CFC UNITED NPL36.07 CONTINENTAL FC NPL36.03 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY HORNETS35.51 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NPL35.37 PENN FUSION SA NPL34.66 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NPL34.17 ALBERTSON SC NPL FURY33.87 FC BUCKS NORTH BLACK NPL33.84 EAST MEADOW SC NPL33.52 FSA FC NPLNY Club NPL37.60 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE) 36.76 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM36.24 MASSAPEQUA SC NPL COSMOS 36.21 PRINCETON SA IGFA36.07 STA SOCCER MORRIS UNITED NPL35.89 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE NPL35.18 NEW YORK SC ELITE SKY34.63 NJ CRUSH FC STORM34.37 QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL00.00 BRENTWOOD NPL FREEDOM 2001 NewEngland NPL37.32 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP37.05 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL36.64 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS RED NPL35.61 NEFC BREAKERS NPL 35.55 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 35.03 GPS MASSACHUSETTS NPL34.82 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL31.16 AZTEC SOCCER NPL
And the best for last the current top of the pyramid40.24 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL39.62 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL38.92 PENN FUSION SA ECNL 38.55 FC BUCKS ECNL 38.40 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL 38.22 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL37.78 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 37.37 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL37.24 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL 36.62 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL36.54 FSA FC ECNL36.54 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL 36.19 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL35.75 WNY FLASH ACADEMY ECNL
National league recapNL Black - FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO) can clinch a tie forvthe title with a win vs Nationals Union 01 Black (MI) or if the nationals win the door remains wide open for either Florida Elite 2001 (FL) or Fullerton Rangers 01 White (CA-S) toclaimthe title in Vegas. Nationals Union 01 Black has aspotlockedup in next year's National league with a MidWest Regional league Fall title already.NL Blue - the Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI) can clinch a spot at nationals and in next year's national league with a win vs LFSA Select (IL)NL Red - CUP Gold 01 (OH-S) wins the title and spot at nationals and next year's national league with one win in Vegas.NL White - the current 1st place team EGA 01 Maroon Omaha (NE) has a spot clinched for next year's national league as the 2nd place Midwest regional league fall team but will likely not win this year's division title. Legends FC 01 Academy (CA-S) with 2 wins in Vegas can clinch the White division.
Region 1 Teams that have qualified------------------------------------------------- 2017 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships - VA1. BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/02-------------------------------------------------2017 NPL Finals - IN1. VIRGINIA RUSH
@12:30 MF ECNL 2001 would outplay and outscore everyone of those teams...It's very early in the season, try watching a team before you start trashing them. If you are going by stats in college showcases you are grasping at straws.If they were to lose to any of those teams I would owe you a sincere apology. A little objectivity goes a long way.
12:30 The numbers mean nothing right now... unless you need them to prove something that is simply not there.Try having a shred of objectivity please...MF would beat every team on that list, most games would not be close.See the teams play before you launch a personal tirade. College showcases are not much of a barometer.Start your agenda when you have some actual real data, please. Being petty and jealous is not a good way to go through life.
No agenda pal - those are the Youthsoccer rankings scores with the current team rosters, they are what they are, no excuses made or needed every team played showcase games. Objectivity? No need the data is the data. So is 3:50 and 4:27 the same person, because I'm 12:30 and all I have been posting are youthsoccer ranking scores the same for everyone no favorites and my posts are easy to identify no opinions just the results not selling anything.
The rankings are based solely on team results. Every goal in every game is considered when calculating the ranking of each team. Each team is assigned a score that is measured in goals. To predict the goal difference when two teams play each other simply subtract the score of one team from the score of the other.Wrong (Sjeb favorite by 0.88 o r1)1 SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY [38.48] 2 SUSA ISA NPL G01 [37.60]Correct (coin flip diff = 0.03)1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME [37.35] 1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP [37.32]correct (coin flip diff = 0.16)0 BEADLING SC ELITE [36.03]1 NYSC ELITE 2001 SAPPHIRE [35.87] Correct (Pipeline favorite by 0.88 or 1)1 PIPELINE SC BLACK [36.06]0 NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SKY [35.18]Wrong (Classics favorite by 1.32 or 1)0 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 [36.28] 0 MERCER FC SPURS [35.06]3 out 5 correct by using just the data (not bad)
@6:16 There isn't NEARLY enough data. And 3 out of 5 is 60%, that's not good.
8:37 That's 60% looking at a random 5 games I picked. If I was to look at the entire Disney lineup I'm sure it would be higher. I like their stats and it's the only place the ECNL teams can't cry about not including all their results.When you say not enough data who are you talking about teams from VA have played 20+ games?Once again no agenda on my part just data not enough or just enough the data is what it is. Teams are what they are. To me these scores tell me that any team in the top 30 can compete vs each other with either one winning. using MF since you like to defend them.MF [36.62]0:1 vs RICHMOND UNITED ECNL [37.46] - correct2:4 vs LONESTAR SC ECNL [37.95] - correct1:4 vs FC VIRGINIA ECNL [38.34] - correct1:0 vs STA SOCCER MORRIS UNITED NPL [36.07] -correct4:0 vs BEACHSIDE SC CT [33.69] - correct1:1 vs ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL [37.37] - wrong because the diff is .75 and we round it to 1 if the diff was below .50 it would also be correct because we would round it to 0.They are 83.33% correct when predicting MF games -Is that better than 60%?
12:18am - I am a fan of you! Glad you are able to prove to those MF parents that their team is just average.
12:18 This is 8:37 and 87% is pretty good.Can't argue with you about that. Thanks
10:19 Let's talk in June
Nice job NJ Wildcats win top flight at Disney Showcase.
@739That shows as the Wildcats Averbuch team which is 2002 girls so they played up a year & won top flight for 2001 age group at a major national showcase tournament. Very, very impressive.
Plenty of '01s on that Averbush team, of course - but yes - a very nice job keeping their run going. Solid team. Never easy.
Adverbush was not at Disney. It was the fury team. Wildcat director playing gotsoccer games again. Averbush was on the wags applied team list but somehow fury was on the schedule. Same for CASL and now Disney.
2002 Girls are allowed to play up within the same club. It was a mix of players from Averbuch and Fury Teams within the Wildcats Club. Same as the other academies do it. At Raleigh they played in 2002 top flight so that was all 2002 team.
At some point, a team has to stop chasing points
8:26 - but if it gets them in the top flights, what's the issue? This one is on Disney -it's very easy to see when a team is manipulating GS. Just look at their history if you see u15 and u16 flights then you know they are guilty.This is a reason why I prefer Youth Soccer Rankings USA over gotsoccer. Both teams are the same and GS had nothing to do with either team being F1, however if you look at GS there is a big gap. Tournaments will get smart or they just don't care. 37.47 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL37.11 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH NPL
PS. The Averbuch team GS was the right one to use for Disney as this had u14 results that should be used as U16 results. However, Disney should have then noticed that this account is now being used as a U15 account and should have flighted them properly further down regardless of their results at Disney. Wait we'll see the same type of decisions/mistakes made in a few days by Jefferson.PSS from my previous post you can see either team would be flighted the same based on their Fall 2016 results as their scores are about the same. However,Disney should have made an example of them for trying to play the system
But they won the higher division so what's the issue?Why flight them lower? That would be chasing points....
Why didn't Wildcats DOC just have the Fury U16 team club register for the tournament & have some of the 2002 players from Averbush guest play as needed? That way the Fury would have benefitted from the GS points. Speaking of the latter, how does GS award points to the U15 team that used U16 players if that indeed did happen? & the "all other academies do it" excuse is lame.
9:04 Becasue they took a spot of a true U16 team (no smoke and mirrors) who could have also won the flight. Why not use the true U16 gotsoccer account (Fury)? Oh not as many point so a lower flight huh? Cheating the system but i don't blame them they tried and got over this one is on the selection people at Disney. Not major event ever played a team playing up in their top flights. But it is what it is.9:36 and that is the problem - they should not be allowed to use the Averbuch GS account for 2002/U15 events now since they have new season results that included U16/2001 guest players. But GS won't catch that unless someone complains to them.Ps. The other academies don't do it. It's called cheating and that's a sad thing this we are talking about a team with 15 year old players. So sad.
They can only get those points for one team or the other so the points are only benefiting one team, not both. And they did win the games and the flight so lets not lose sight of that fact. And they beat some strong teams to get there.Top flight at Disney is no joke, very competitive and always has been. Just look at past years top flight winner.
What teams were in the top flight. And what were the scores?
So in the end, Wildcats are best at U16, with 02 players playing 01. Their is no issue because they kicked but and won flight. Now lets talk about wrong flight-ing in general? Bad refs etc. If they go in as Averbush and won who cares, they obviously earned it and deserved it. I would like to play Averbush truth be told. I have said it before, great things happening in Long Branch with this club. No games, small rosters, great players.
10:52 I said the point was they cheated to get a higher flight. After looking at the facts - YouthSoccer Rankings Score was close and so is their GotSoccer point totals. I was a fool for posting be fore I looked.14442 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL14439 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLThe teams are equal and would be flighted the same way
You are looking at the rankings today. In August when you had to apply to Disney averbush was ranked 1 in the country in got soccer with 24000 points and a state cup champion but fury was ranked 9th in NJ with around 13000 points. That is a very different profile. Only one is worthy of the top flight and the wildcat DOC knew it and tried to rig the system.
Both are flight 1 teams now. And U17 Wildcats Troutman also won last weekend in top flight at NPL Showcase. All 3 teams U15-U17 are now very solid.
But do they share players?
The last day of NPL games overlapped with 1st day of Disney games on Saturday so I don't believe players could be in 2 places at once. Troutman is a 2000 Team that looks much improved from last year judging by the teams results at EDP Cup in November and NPL results last weekend in Florida.
That 2000 team sent a few players to Disney and played with less players at the end of NPL. Also they pulled up a player from the 2002 team
Impressive. That is certainly making the most of their time in FL. How did work as far as logistics? I heard that the NPL games where a bit away from Orlando.
NPL field was weak so it didn't matter
Is top drawer soccer worth joining?
I would not pay for Top Drawer but I'm a member for now because we got a membership since my kid did a Top Drawer showcase. You may have noticed this already but everything they write is geared towards ECNL on the girls side (and DA on the boys side). $4 a month just to see who they think were the top players at some event, when they only watch maybe 3 or 4 games per day, just doesn't seem a good value.
There is enough free content for it to be useful as is.
But 5:26 if NPL brackets were so weak why didnt any of the 3 CSA Teams that attended(1999, 2000 and 2001 all attended) come out on top?
So my family comes back from Disney and tells me that we had several players from the team below and above us play with our team which cut many kids minutes. Other parents tell me I should be happy we won. But in the end we did not Aberbush did. We entered wags and casl as averbush and then were changed to fury but our DOC could net get Disney changed so in the end Averbush gets credit for the win not fury. On top of that I hear our captain stayed home for basketball and that one of the older girls mom was bragging how the wildcats will work around her basketball schedule and it's ok if she misses some so this is why she joined wildcats this year. Why are we rewarding kids who are not dedicated to the team? I could not make this up if I tried.
It doesn't matter about a "team" at this point. If you are a freshman or sophomore college coaches are watching individual players not teams. If your daughter played and played well that's all that counts.
5:14 and this is exactly what is wrong with this Fing world we live in - all about me who cares who I step on to get what I want. Great job as parents we did.
Soccer is a team sport and it's all about the team and how the player fits in.Yes coaches are watching the players not how many step overs they do but how they connect with their team and how they play their ROLE on the TEAM. How can you say it doesn't matter about the team - Life is about fitting into a team either in a family or at work.
The girl who also plays hs basketball was in florida playing with wildcats. Is everything that comes out of your mouth a lie. Wildcat parent my eye. Everyone knows who you are and your attempts at mistepresenting yourself are obvious and tiresome. But trying to turn winning top flight at Disney into a negative is a stretch even for you.
I didn't intimate that the an individual player not be a team player. What I meant is that the college coaches coming to watch and recruit could care less of the team your daughter is on is the best team. They are only lookkng at the players as an individual. OfCourse she must be a team player among other attributes.
9:47 I don't know anyone from the Wildcats... But how can you be sure that it's a BS post?
12:33 so why even mention that - soccer is a team sport with players playing different roles. There should be no difference between practice, league game and showcase it's all the same as far as playing and being part of a team. So if the team doesn't why is their a top of the pyramid? F1, F2 and so on? Doesn't the team have to be good to get to F1? or is random pick out of a hat?It's always about the team and playing for your team putting your body in front of a shot to help your goalie or sprinting back on Def to stop a counter when you are an attacking player. You said "It doesn't matter about a "team" at this point." College coaches were never looking at the team NEVER. So why say it. I'm talking about the parents that tell their kids to dribble and not pass the ball score the goals so you look good. How many times do I hear parents asking their kids how many goals did you score? Who cares if they stayed and watched they would have seen how good their kids played without scoring any goals.My point is college coaches always come to recruit the player that is a given and has never changed and never will. But if they have free time to go watch a game - they will watch top flight games before bottom flight games any day of the week, I would.
Depends.If a "not so top flight" (your description) team's player caught the attention of the coach at a clinic, even by e-mail - then the coach might forego a "better" (your word) game to see the "lesser" one.GET their attention - that's the first lesson.Cheers.
Where is list of accepted teams to Jeff Cup? Was supposed to be up 1/6/17
8:32 My bad - let me try again - the college coach is free already saw all the kids that reached out in the AM now has some time to kill in between the next group he/she has to see in PM. Next to him/her are two fields but he/she can only watch one - the top flight or the bottom flight (the event's description) who does he/she pick?I already said i would pick the top flight. Stop trying to SPIN it's a straight forward question. Are you telling me you would pick the bottom flight since the team doesn't matter to you?
Jeff Cup acceptance absolutely crucial for players on 2000 and 2001 teams. Along with pda showcase those are the 2 spring college showcases that every college program will attend.
2018's players need Jeff Cup. Not crucial for 2020's or 2019's.Jeff Cup acceptance is absolutely crucial for non ECNL teams.ECNL teams have the ECNL Phoenix event, which draws all the P5 schools. Top U16 teams get all they need in Phoenix.ECNL teams get auto acceptance to Jeff Cup which is a nice thing. Many ECNL programs, U-16 to U-18, form composite teams for the players that are not committed. Results make no difference at Jeff Cup.
for 2019's jeff cup very important. Sophomore year is now most highly recruited year, not junior year. You are wrong as most power 5 conference schools have all their athletic scholarship money promised by end of sophomore year for that class.Be careful of putting out inaccurate posts for those parents who need accurate info for their children.
What I am saying is the P5 will be in AZ. There are good teams at Jeff Cup, but many of the top teams don't attend, thus, not as many P5 schools. Jeff Cup does get some P5 schools to show, but it is mostly mid-majors and the focus of mid-majors are the 2018's and 19's. Sorry, but the P5 focus on the ECNL national events, which are much bigger events for recruiting and huge for the 2019's & 20's playing on U16 teams. ALL the P5 schools will be in Phoenix, but they won't be at Jeff Cup. Accurate.
You need to go "mobile" to see the acceptances for Jeff CupSame every yearhttps://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?eventid=53446
Yes and I am sure they will be focused on the 2017's as you claim. You are a misinformed ignorant person. Many of the Region 1 ECNL Teams are playing at Jefferson Cup you fool. And all the college coaches from Region 1 will be there as they were at Raleigh for CASL event and as they will be in Vegas for that event the week before Jefferson Cup.
So 1:17 let me get this straight, all the top ECNL Teams wont be at Jefferson Cup? did you bother to even look at Champiosnship flight? Its as strong or stronger as any tournament flight I have seen this year. Including the ECNL events.Even flight 2 is fill with strong teams and the ECNL Clubs are ALL represented. Also tell us again how this springs tournaments are the biggest recruiting events for 2018 junior class, not 2019 sophomore class. You are an absolute Buffoon!
Well, they are certainly big recruiting events for those 2018 players that are uncommitted.
But their is no athletic scholarship money left for 2019's now in the spring of their junior year for major conference programs. Those schools have finished their recruitment of the 2019 current hs junior class and are now wrapping up the 2020's sophomore class this spring and will begin looking at the 2020 frosh class as well. If you are an uncommitted junior/2019 class then you are looking at mid majors at this point if you expect to get ANY athletic money.
You don't get a high turnout of coaches in Vegas. Just does not happen anymore. Coaches of those teams will tell the players and parents to justify the cost of the trip, but it's not ECNL AZ, although club coaches will try to spin it that way.You do get the highest turnout of coaches at the ECNL events in the spring. ECNL AZ and NJ have all the P5 schools and they will be focused in on the 2019's and 20's.Jeff Cup and CASL are good events, but still not at the level of the ECNL national events. Jeff Cup is still great for the 2018's.FALSE. There is still money out there for 2019 players. Yes, there are very good teams playing at Jeff Cup, but not as good as the ECNL national events. That is why the two biggest events of the spring for recruiting will be ECNL AZ and NJ.Name calling is fine with me. In the end, you will see that I am correct. All the best in Vegas...
@12:552017- current seniors2018-current juniors2019-current sophomores2020- current freshmenJust sayin
1:55 - hahahaha, you beat me to it. Yes, 2017's are the current seniors; and 2018's are the current juniors; and 2019's are current sophomores. 2019's are not juniors as an above poster proclaims. So, school are STILL recruiting 2018's very heavily.
No power 5 schools are still recruiting hs jumiors and look at jeff cup all region 1 ecnl teams are there. Every one. You are mistaken. Jeff Cup has best of both ecnl and non ecnl teams. That is why all the colleges will be there. They can see everyone.
Correct 2019 yes.But for 2018 major college programs are done with juniors.
2:53 - many know that most ECNL teams won't play commits. So, not getting a true peek at the regular team and how kids really play within the soccer systems from which they are recruiting as some will be in different positions, etc. Just hoping the weather is good and all the participants have a good showing.
Plenty of Fall 2016 commits to D1s (SENIORS) from 2017 class.
There are plenty of soccer spots out there. Don't panic.
I love how this blog talks about kids being recruited in their sophomore year! Stop dreaming! As of right now only 2 kids playing fro respected teams have been committed to top D1 schools and your isn't one of them.
Message to the mature parents out there...we are now parents of 2001 girls, stop trying to make your daughter's team out to be the best by destroying others, get a life.Be a parent, help your daughter do her best to help her succeed in life.Lots of bullies and trolls around here, still stuck in the U12 years, living vicariously through their kids because they missed out on opportunities when they were young.Oh...and Obama is done and Trump won, get over it!Why not offer some helpful hints for those parents who are new to this showcasing instead of being pompous asses?
What's the definition of a "respected team"? W-L record? Coach's attitude? Players' attitudes? League? I thought recruitment was all about the player's ability, not the team's. Plenty of good players out there, that for one reason or another, do not play for a "brand name" or so-called respected team.
True. I agree with poster after looking at jeffeson Cup acceptances. those top 3 flights are very strong indeed. Couldn't figure out why someone was trashing Jefferson Cup on here. Then I went through the list again and realized for some reason MatchFit decided not to send their teams. so it is most likely Matchfit trying to run down Jefferson Cup as unimportant and Arizona event as the place to be as that is evidently what they tried to sell their parents.
Jeff Cup flights are horrible. There is no organization whatsoever. The tournament needs to stop following GotSoccer. The better teams don't go after the GotSoccer points therefore they're in the lower flights.
Does anyone know what PDA will do as far as ECNL once the GDA is up and running next year? I can't imagine that they'd stop playing in ECNL.
9:24 I guess I need to get a life, because i love talking best teams or maybe I should say quality teams and I use results the only metric you can use to avoid opinions and being bias. Now if the results (which we have no control over but our girls do) destroy a team or pump up a team why is that taboo?My kid wants to play in college and she has filled out D1 questionnaires, attended D1 ID clinics, talked to D3 coaches and visited schools on a list she prepared with no input from me.If we don't talk results what do we talk about? it's not right to talk about kids, I think the college thing has been talked about with no new information to be discovered.12:13 I don't see why they wouldn't. They have a great set up, the DA just set up a u15 age so know we have u13,u14 and u15 single age groups, cha ching. The have the brand and people will do anything to have their kids be on one of their rosters even if they are the 24th player.12:07 teams (parents) that might be upset they are not in the top 3 (Championship, Elite or Superior flights) are listed below.11:12 genius move to some how drag MF into this. No disrespect but i would take Arizona over Virginia as a tournament location any day of the week (my kid happens to want to go out west)F4 Platinum OrangeJERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC ELITE-MANALAPAN (NJ)PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ)PENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE)READING RAGE '01 MORGAN (PAE)WORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL (NYE)FC STARS NPL 01 (MA)PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ) F5 ClassicCEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2001 (NJ)NEW YORK SURF SC G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE)PENN FUSION SA NPL 2001 (PAE)TSF ACADEMY 2001G (NJ)
8:52 - clearly you don't have access to The List. There are many more than 2 top level sophomores verbally committed to top level programs. I know of more than two personally. And, my older daughter committed late in her soph year. It happens. Just don't rush it and make sure all the stars align.More importantly, as the poster noted, there are plenty of soccer spots out there; don't panic.
I understand that every team can't be in the top fllights but some of the teams listed in top 3 flights have to know they shouldn't be there. It's quite obvious. The Jeff Cup people definitely dropped the ball this year.
These are some teams I think are to high, but i wouldn't replace them with any of the teams I listed previously.These tournaments brag about their 1 goal games. Destroy the teams that you play other events will take notice as tournaments hate one sided games as it's a waste of time for the colleges and negative press.FC FREDERICK '01 (MDHARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD)STA 2001G NPL (NJ)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)PDA HORNETS (NJ)SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS PREMIER WHITE (NJ)SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE)
Does anyone know what happened to Freehold, Jackson, and Wall? It has them at U17 but no games have been played?
You can probably find them on youtubeThey all disbanded...
President's Day Futsal U9-U14, HS, Adult Divisions. $175 one day event.Convenient to NY/NJ, Philly, MD.http://www.playbisc.com/soccer/futsal
Dude if you're going to advertise on here, at least pick the right age group
They do note high school (HS) which would include U16.
Honestly these futsal tournaments and indoor tournaments are a waste of time at the HS ages even the younger ages in my opinion. Just train with the team and relax on the weekends before Spring kicks into gear.I remember back a few years posters were trying to sell some futsal national Championship in CA and the Wildwood event as the place to be - where are they now, since the posts stopped? Oh it's about the individual these days right? Always has been.
Psychologically, competition (indoor events, futsal) is good.Dont just look at the technical.
Did all the futsal tourneys with my kids.They are better players today because of them.My oldest daughter really misses it and so do I.
My kid did futsal. She's a GK. Kind of dangerous for a GK. Saw one break an arm diving onto the floors. Not something we do anymore.
4:55 Let me understand your kid is a better player because of the futsal tournaments and not the futsal training?I love the training could careless about the games, most of the games played were not vs very good teams and the skilled players did a bunch of 1v1 and long range shooting. Kids will be kids. But to each their own, happy your kids love it.
BRYC Elite Academy to Join Boys ECNL & Girls ECNL for 2017-18 Season
If a club now has GDA and the coaches are all the same, what has really changed? USSF is only an influenceClub coaches were good or bad or in between already
Kids will be different. They will be able to sift out the kids that won't have the ability to play at that level for the kids that want to play GDA. So, coaches will have kids that get it and can execute it.
So we will have 10 girls from 2002 and 10 girls from 2001 with only 18 dressing for games and of the 18 only 14 playing. Yup some girls will get it and some will practice 4x per week and sit more than they play. But at least we have showcase events for them to play in right? What ever makes you happy. If your kid is DA and you are paying you are not one of the players getting the push and PT will not be guaranteed. Not sure paying over 2k is worth training 4x with limited PT.
I dream of it being 2KWe'll see.I do think the training will be well worth it, especially if what is being put forth re: college coaches attending sessions rings true.
Where does it say college coaches will attend?
**BEWARE** PDA Splash coach JB is a miserable human being. Do NOT bring your daughter to PDA. He had 6 new players at practice last week because the team is losing. He knows nothing about soccer, and less about developing players. Don't let him berate your daughter. Worst coach in NJ
7:45 I respect your opinion. But as an outsider I see your post as follows:A. Players being looked at because half the team moving to GDA next season and tryouts are around the corner.B. Players probably contacted team once tryouts were announced by PDA/SKYBlue for GDA.C. Not all players respond the same to a coach and his/her style.D. Players need thick skin and parents even thicker they are not little girls anymore. They are teenage athletes.E. Your opinion of the coach is your opinion.
For those of you that like commitments using soccerwire and topdrawerClass of 2020Bethesda SC (MD) = 1Richmond United (VA) = 1NEFC / Breakers Academy (MA) = 1PDA (NJ) = 1----------------------------------------Class of 2019FC Stars of Mass (MA) = 8PDA (NJ) = 6Bethesda SC (MD) = 4Penn Fusion (PA) = 4FC Boston Scorpions (MA) = 3NEFC / Breakers Academy (MA) = 2Richmond United (VA) = 2Connecticut FC United (CT) = 2Albertson SC (NY) = 2SUSA FC (NY) = 1World Class FC (NY) = 1South Shore Select (MA) = 1FC Pennsylvania (PA) = 1FC Bucks (PA) = 1Match Fit Academy (NJ) = 1Continental FC DELCO (PA) = 1Princeton SA (NJ) = 1
Do u have a link to see that information?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IbB3V_l4dzMu1PnuLIjX9bJyT9r9zn2voE_qefyFYko/htmlembed?gid=6&widget=false#And, top players listed here. Can cross reference re college, grad year and club? Great source.
STAY AWAY from PDA Splash until they fire this coach. No they are not looking at new players for GDA. The coach is terrible and doesn't develop players. He's knows nothing about soccer and loyalty. They haven't won a game since June. Last year he brought new players in for the playoffs after getting a top seed and they couldn't get out of the first round. JB is the worst coach in NJ. Bring your daughte elsewhere if you want to further her soccer skills. Beardsley is awful.
Someone doesn't want their daughter to have competition at tryouts this year......
Or maybe just calling out an A-hole coach.
I have heard nothing of the sort - and we have players there that we know well.Please - stop slinging mud - or at least be specific so the issues can be more directly addressed.Teams of that calibre are always bringing in new talent so the 6 new player thing rings a bit hollowI notice one-two players that left the team - have there been more the past 12-18 months?
The Beard is the worst coach in Nj. Stay away from PDA Splash. He will sell your daughter for a win. Too bad he has no wins this year! He only cares about himself.
Just one question if this coach is so bad why are you still there? I guess you don't mind that bad if you are keeping your kid there.
Here is a question for everyone. If you daughter will be a Jr in HS next year, is the DA really worth it for her? Lets say she has not committed to a college yet.
YesUnless she is already with ECNL and it's beneficial to her
@1/26 9:22pmLook at info for boys DA. It talks about the college coach exposurehttp://www.ussoccerda.com/overview-program-benefits
What if her ECNL club is going DA but keeping ECNL? So, ECNL would be 2nd tier at that club. What if you are already committed to a college, would it still be worth it? For boys, they state over 50% of all academy games are scouted. I am not sure in the beginning of the GDA it will be the same. Has anyone heard if the GDA will prohibit HS play or not?
7:11 my 2 cents -GDA is for serious players that want quality training 4 days a week so they can compete for a spot on a YNT or maybe even play pro some day. College is a given since these player pools should be the best of the best and will be a place to recruit. ECNL is for the serious players that also want the above but have no GDA near them and for the players that did not make the GDA team at their club. College is a given.That's the problem i think you guys are missing committed or not committed the GDA is for players that have national team dreams. If they don't - don't go and stop trying to change the GDA - it's an ACADEMY system for serious soccer players not players looking for scholarship money.
Thus players should not play DA unless they want to play for a national team? What about the superior training and exposure?
10:49 - well said. GDA isn't for everyone and it is being set up that way intentionally. Go to the level that best suits you/your child whatever it is.
12:35 what about it? DA is set up for that purpose. Of course it will have everything you said and of course anyone can tryout and participate it's an Academy to create soccer players and I would guess this is for the players and parents willing to sacrifice. Money, travel, time away from school so if college is your priority maybe it's not the place for your kid if they are good and going to get NT looks.Go NT camps in CA (a few times)Play tournaments outside the USthis is in addition to the 4 days of training and tournaments they play with their academy club.So if the girls are talking HS soccer then an Academy is not for them. Stick to ECNL or any other team preparing their players for College. Yes Academy players will go to top programs as not all will play NT - but they all want to play NT in the Olympics not HS soccer.I agree 2:05 go to the level for your kid and be happy with it, the number of years our kids are going to play soccer can almost be counted on one hand unless of course your kid wants to be a pro - then I wish her good luck.
Can we have a good luck wish just for collegiate soccer?Thanks.Players often become "national team" - and even pros - by surprise. I wonder if you knew this.
much GDA bashing for an entity that hasn't even begun
And many kids burnout even before they finish high school. A lot of talk about training days and overuse injuries, but not much talk about psychology. Or, is burnout part of the development process, and those who cannot handle the mental side of the training pace and competition as an adolescent drop by the wayside leaving only the mentally strong for college and beyond?
Especially if you play for that weasel at PDA Splash - The Beard! He's lower than a slug. As slimy too. Beware don't take your daughter to him!!
You obviously have some agenda against the PDA Splash coach. Why are you still there?
We have no choice to play for this A-hole JB until the season is over.
***Warning*** Parents - stay away from PDA Splash until the Beard is removed. He is unfit to be around young women.
So your daughters have been pulled from his team right?If I felt that way about coach, she wouldn't play....
always more than 1 choice, just choose wisely
1:50 PMThat is too thoughtful a post for this board - please dumb it down next time :)PDA mom/dadI feel for you in this situation. I don't know the details but it must have been pretty horrific - something other than simple playing time issues - for you to be so aggressive toward this coach.I hope you guys end up in a good place.
LOL...PDA is and always has been, all about who you know and how much you can suck up. If you've made the team you're obviously very good, but what sets you apart from then next girl is how much of the coolade you drink, or how much your parents can suck up. With very good knowledge of that team, there are girls on there that are elevated to National pool/team status and getting verbal commits (1 to Rutgers, no surprise)that are quite FRANKly not very good.How does one player go from not cracking the starting 11 with a previous coach to getting a YNT nod?
Love NJ and NY bloggers :)
9:31You are on crack.
PDA is no different than any other Elite team (without going into the fact that they don't develop talent there), coaches will have favorites and those girls for whatever reason that they don't like. The chosen girls will play more and get a push while some will not play much. That all being said, some parents just know how to play the game much better than others. I just happen to know the girls whose gotten the push there and they are not any better than anyone else, which opened my eyes to the old saying It's not what you know, it's who you know.11:37, I'm assuming you know who I am talking about, so can you explain to me how a player can ride the bench with the head coach in the last age group and miraculously get a verbal from RU and a Natty pool invite?One trick pony...how many times can you cut the ball back.and just a hint, I'm not even talking about the girl who came from matchfit.
you sound like the cry baby from igfa
Wow, you have completely lost it. After attacking the PDA coach, now you are attacking its players. Looks like you don't like the competition - the sign of weakness.
Hillary lost. Get over the butt hurt
Actual outcome for an organization that decided to advance girls' soccer...http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/over-1000-ecnl-class-of-2017-players-commit-to-ncaa-div-i-programs/
**Don't take your daughter to PDA Splash while the Beard is there! He is a disaster. Never developed any player. Just brings in different players if it doesn't go his way!! Don't get sucked in.
We all new PDA Splash would fall off with the new age realignment. 90% of last year's team was 2000. The strength in PDA isn't up north anymore in this age group. It's at the Shore.
If you're going to PDA for development, that's your fault. By this age group, your daughter better be an almost finished product.
If she is you are in trouble
1:04I'm going to assume you meant that at this age, high percentage of the development has occurred...However, not one college coach will want to hear "my daughter is a finished product" :)
From here on out its whats between the ears
You have no choice with that A-hole coach of the Splash! He's too in love with himself to develop players.
6:29 is your daughter playing for Beard?
Hoping and looking for some factual answers and experiences..My daughter wants to tryout for DA at PF. We technically could drive to Classics or Spirit instead.Other than travel expenses to the club, can I get pros and cons from any PF, Classic or Spirit parents?
haha good oneCan't wait to see those answers from parents that are worried their daughter will lose her spot to an outsider :)
PF hasn't announced the coaches for the DA. But I would guess the 01 coach will coach the 01/02 team. He is an outstanding trainer. All kids improve under his tutelage. His downside is he has clear favorites. Maybe this is just human, but he wears it on his sleeve. If your kid is among them then she will love it at PF. If not, she will have to work a little harder to win his favor. All training sessions are well organized and happen on time. Venues are excellent. Competition excellent. Have been with the club for 4 years. Not considering a change. Kid not interested in high school soccer. I don't know much about PAC. This advice could apply to both clubs:Maybe look on got soccer to see how they did against known competition. Go to ID sessions if they have them to gauge the player level and try to imagine how your kid will fit in. Watch a training session run by the named coach to get a feel of how he manages training and the kids. Ideally watch a game in March to see the coach and team in action. That's pretty much what we did when our kid wanted a change.
9:37 the word on the street is PF and CFC are merging. If she can really make the DA then PF is the place to take her. PF is ready for DA, especially of they merge with CFC. If it is a toss up that she can make PF then take her to PAC. She will be able to make the DA at PAC. They cant compete with ECNL teams right now. The PAC teams cant beat the NPL teams so they will need girls that can compete. Both clubs will be holding DA ID Clinics soon enough. You will be able to take your daughter to those and see how she stacks up. You could just contact the clubs now and take her to practices.
Thanks for the infoWe are going to meeting at PF and I've been doing my gs researchI haven't seen any info on PAC site since the original message regarding ID They have our info, hoping to hear something
"They cant compete with ECNL teams right now. The PAC teams cant beat the NPL teams so they will need girls that can compete."ECNL teams don't even play them do they? Many tournaments keep ecnl on their own
Merger won't happen for 201718 if at all. Talks are ongoing, but not happening for this next year.
I don't see merger happening soon if at allPF has successful ecnl and now probably successful gda
Hasnt it been posted that it is a money thing - that CFC would be helping in that regard?Mergers always tricky (coaches, where based, etc)
:) so PF needs money? That's a little funny and incredible
12:29 - If they cant beat the ECNL B teams , then they cant beat the ECNL teams. 12:53/1:28 - Do you guys know something? Rumors are merger will happen before DA. 1:55 - I think it is not so much money but fields for the DA. If PF merges with CFC they will not have to rent fields from them anymore. Time will tell with everything12:16 - Good luck to your daughter, I hope everything works out for her.
PF cannot have both GDA and ECNL.In order to maintain cash flow, they will have to charge GDA players roughly the same price as ECNL, which kind of defeats the purpose of a DA. PF GDA is essentially their PF ECNL.Ultimately, this helps TM climb up higher on the US Soccer ladder...
"which kind of defeats the purpose of a DA" :)So this is a program for the disadvantaged?PF will end up with sheep shuffle, I don't think they will add teams but instead split up existing ones. Where are all these new players coming from?
I feel a lot of girls will not want to stop playing HS soccer to play DA, if they already started HS. It will be easier for the younger girls to skip HS for the DA.
Then play HSNothing but a choice
12:11 - 01 coach may be in for the 99/00's. He coaches 98/99. As you note, very good.
2:12 - he is very well respected by USSF and other DOC's already. But, thanks for playing.
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