Full ride? Highly unusual.
Might be true. Loyola’s soccer program needs to do something to start drawing in better players with their fifth coaching change and only 3 wins last season.
Hey Blog Administrator - you remove items. How about BLOCKING the posts that promote foreign gambling sites and escort services. And then forwarding their info to the FBI? This is a youth soccer site. We have soccer crazies site already; don't need pervs. Block them as the posting rules dictate.Sorry gang. Let's keep it soccer real not really creepy.
It is full ride and 12:03 has a good point. Our Rage player got the same from Xavier and kind of the same situation, while another player from our team received 80% from another D1 that was a little more stable as far as wins and how long the coach has been there. The PF player also happens to be a great player, so I'm sure that helps too. Rage Parent
good for her. it does happen. Heard PF is staying in GDA. Guess they don't want to compete with the likes of PDA, Hawks anymore. Classics will pick up some of the scraps. They will dominate PA in a few years.
I feel like I’m seeing a lot of commits this week. Are players/coaches scrambling before April 25th? I expect the commitment scene will drastically die off starting in May until September. At least for current sophomores.
7:33 who will dominate? PA Classics? PF runs hot and cold. Lost last week to a good team and beat up a weaker team today. Some have said coach isn't a good game day coach, but is a good trainer. Maybe some truth to it.
Teams in general are hot and cold. Look at Top Hat, FC Dallas....each had a huh game in NC. Penn Fusion and PAC are no different as far as having good days and bad.
Not sure PAC will dominate but I do think they will continue to improve each year. They didn’t have the benefit of having ECNL prior to DA so it’s a work in progress. I don’t think in 3 years players from central Pa will be driving to Philly 4 times a week to play soccer when there’s a DA club so much closer.
I think 9:26 is on to something. PAC player committed to Youngstown State today. Congrats to the player and family.
What a "Spring Break!"Just visited 6 schools in 8 days and my daughter is left with her head spinning (just like my wife and I).Two were crossed off the list pretty quickly. A third was great but probably won't make the cut. Three others offered different elements, all of which were extremely appealing. One of these would cost a lot more money so that's a very realistic concern. The other two are relatively even from a financial perspective but are very different in both geography and culture.The fact that my daughter has at least 4 coaches from schools she like a lot who have strong interest in her is to her credit! A tough decision for sure. But a tough decision she's VERY fortunate to have.Wish I thought this much about college when I was deciding where I was going to go!!!
"Wish I thought this much about college when I was deciding where I was going to go!!!"Although I may well have landed in the same place I did all those years ago and really have no regrets!
Although the NCAA's new rule that will not allow college visits until Sept 1st of a players Junior year is full of good intention, it will end up being more costly for the parents. Colleges coaches hammer away at the idea that they must see your daughter at one their ID camps and often use the line "85% of our players have attended our ID camp". Taking away the sophomores visitation right only forces the player to attend and the parent to pay for what is sometimes horribly run camps. Personally I have found that if the coach is seriously interested in your daughter, they have already seen her in a number of games played. Along with that, the head and asst. coaches have already made their decision on whether she fits into their plans. The next two months will be pretty crazy with all the committing and switching, good luck everyone and remember, the end goal is in site.
hahaha..."end goal in site"; in this site or in sight?
10:31 of course teams run hot and cold. some kids can't play big in big games. and some coaches can't coach big games. the kids don't pick the players. the politics of all of it stinks. at least in college your teammates will play to win not play to showcase/promote herself.
11:22 I like that you got it.
yes in college anyone that doesn't play as a team will be benched. the jobs of the coaches depend on the success of the team; not the success of the individuals. in club, you may have a team that has a huge disparity in talent, you need to have everyone play as a team. you also need the coach to be realistic as well and put talented players on the field. magic is an illusion. it can't give a player skills or soccer iq.
yes, play catch with the keeper too much or continue to just shoot right at them, you'll see reduced playing time. in club, you get howls from parents (good shot); instead of why did you waste such a great build up when such and such was open for a pass, you were outside the 18? A few games back a coach was questioning his players who were dominating the game; why did you take that shot? made them accountable for bad attempts. yesterday, same coach, nothing. I was questioning; why did you take that low percentage shot and just turn over possession for no good reason?
as someone noted some kids can't play in big games either they lack the talent or choke and some coaches can't coach big games either. and some kids may be cross-eyed.
My favorite is the CM who wants to shoot all game instead of distribute.
CM or others. we have several on our team.
good stuff here. we have another challenge; many on my kid's team can't receive the ball on their left foot. so if a great pass is on the left; they aren't getting to it. they actually stop running. yeah. hard to watch. even harder to watch them pass it to their right so they can play it out. some teams, these kids would not even have try-out shirts. this team, they get playing time.
11:59 remember reading an article on Sam Kerr. The attribute for which she is most proud; assists. anyone can take a wild shot; not everyone can set up a great shot. I'd take the kid that looks to pass, first, any day.
The DA doesn't publicly document assists. I think that practice diminishes the overall quality of play as players are always trying to amass individual "stats". A players see a teammate get invited to national camp with one more goal and 20% her assists and the conclusion is, rightly, they USSF doesn't care about playmakers only goal scorers.
12:06 that's the m.o. for several kid on my kid's team. they usually set up the other team with a sweet pass usually right in front of the net too as they try to put it on their right foot and the opponent just swoops in and picks it off as they only pass from their right. oh and the coach just loves to play them in the middle or back. so, it's like a country song; oh we try, we try our best; but, we just; we just can't go left. At this point, it's a broken record.
12:23 - Agreed. ECNL records the assists.
12:23 and 12:36 - don't they keep a record of it; just not public?
Is it June yet?
With the PAC and Penn Legacy merger, they had created an interesting payment structure. If your kid makes the DA team or the Pre Academy or "Elite" team, the usual PAC price tag is applied. If your kid is picked to play on the 3rd tier team, payment is reduced to what Penn Legacy parents usually pay, which is $600.00 less a year. Is this the same structure PDA and PF uses as well?
Elite should be reduced payment too.You're not getting the training DA is getting are you?Won't they have 3+ teams at each group now?
Big $$, nice!I assume you include the da team in the 4?Are the tryouts done?
7:18? They charge the fees so the girls can do the events18 players x $600 = $10,8006 Showcase Events at $1,200 = $7,200There is no way Elite teams can play 6 showcase events @ $600 plus pay for indoor training facilities, outdoor facilities and a coach (don't we all want good coaches with an advance license training the kids)? The way you build your brand is by getting high number of kids into colleges to the point where it doesn't matter which of the 3 teams you play on.The bigger the player pool the more talent to develop when it comes to the NT all it takes is finding one that would have fallen through the cracks. The USDA (sorry like it my way better) vs the ECNL battle will be at the younger ages starting around U10. Our kids are to late in the game. Think about when our kids were that age it was ODP ("Olympic Development") that was the rage now the kids will have "United States Soccer Development Academy". Easy for parents just starting out to be pulled to the USDA.I think it's a healthy fight as long as the kids needs are put first.US Club ECNL >>> NPL >>> National CupUSYS >>> National League >>> NCSThe USSF USSDA (I called it the right thing this time) reserve teams, where will they play? Looks like not ECNL will they stay NPL? or will they support USYS and somehow leverage ODP also? What a crazy game this is.
8:16 or bipolar dude!Just say DA that way you don't need to worry about screwing it up every other sentence :)Showcases cost that much per team not per player...I believe showcases numbers drop with team level.
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Agreed. I think poster said 600 less than others, not 600 only
My bad - but since that was the only number listed I ran with it. Only $600 gives the team $3,600 to play with after 6 showcases if you double that to $1,200 the team budget went up to $14,400 after 6 showcases or if we triple it to $1,800 the team budget went up to $25,200 after 6 showcases10 months >> 40 weeks >> 2 training sessions a week @ $100 = $8,000.+ 6 showcase events @ $1,200 = $7,200.What's a good salary to pay a coach? for 80 training sessions? Let's use $30 per hour. 80 training sessions = 120 hours @ $30 = $3,600. Plus they travel to showcase events 6 events 12 nights at $120 = $1,440 plus travel another $1,000, that comes out to $6,000. So a team budget that pays the coach $30 per hour and plays 6 showcase events should be $21,200 divided by 18 players = $1,200 per player. I'm sure I am missing other costs. So teams that charge $2,500 more per player have $23,400 extra to pay coaches and play in more events or use for scholarships. Just some math.
$2,000 Elite 7 tourneys$1,500 Premier 5 tourneysUniform extra
Looks right the going rate for a college placement team.Perfect world:$12,000 Training facility fee $100 per hour (10 months)$6,000 Coach Fee $50 per hour for the coach (2x1 week = 3 hours) x 40 weeks$8,000 Event Budget$26,000 Total Team Budget.$1,484 per player (18 player roster)$250 Player Registration feed for carding and club.$1,750 Cost per Player.So I think $2,000 is fair for a club to charge. I can also see clubs wanting to charge more to get quality coaching/training (they will demand a higher price). So since soccer is not Football or Basketball when it comes to revenue, us parents are stuck paying the costs. Let's not forget 6 high level events (Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jefferson, PDA, Surf) would cost an extra$2,000 in hotels$2,500 in travel for two (500 per person)So the real cost is $6,500 per player per yearSo the Soccer College scholarship needs to be a minimum $13,000 (I doubled the 6,500 for the early years prior to HS) per year o payback all the money spent.
Mr List, Mr Stat and whoever else wants to chime in...So regarding 4:06, what are the stats for ROI in youth soccer to college soccer?I bet the number of girls that actually reap the rewards is very low...hence why this is such a huge money grab!!!
Here's our struggle..so realistically on a 1-10 scale, my daughter is probably a 7.Starting with the birth year change, her team has changed quite a bit.She has no interest in DA bc she loves her school team(her choice, not mine).Do I keep spending that magical $6,500 per year? She wants to play in college but it will be D3.There really are no other choices around that are any better, without going the DA route.ROI ain't happening here...she wants to and needs to keep playing as the school she will attend is highly ranked.
11:46 While I have had three kids play club ball and my daughter will be the last, I have never looked at as money spent versus money that could have been put towards college. Anyone going into it with that mindset is setting themselves up for failure and many will. What we have achieved as parents is keeping our kids with other a goal oriented kids, and more importantly, how to recover after failure of the moment. Even if players receive scholarship money, there is no guarantee they stay at that particular school or in school at all. We are guaranteed one thing for certain. That is being able to witness the great moments when our daughters have left the field with huge smiles when they have had success, and the moments when they have gotten in the car with tears in their eyes due to a team or personal failure. I count myself fortunate to built a relationship with my daughter while witnessing them both. It's been worth every dollar spent.
Agreed. Club sports are worth it for what they give a kid in terms of fortitude, pride, self-esteem, etc. Scholarship is purely bonus. Club is expensive and the ROI is relative to the family's ability to spend the money and should always be balanced with how well a kid can manage time (studies, social etc). Calculating value is dollars alone will only make you miserable.
2:30 is it worth every dollar spent? every dollar? surely you could have bought smiles elsewhere as well. every time the club says hey go to this place, but we're not taking the entire team or we are going to not bring some of the big players and let you struggle (but you are in championship bracket BECAUSE as an entire team you have success). How's that dollar?I would have rather donated that money to a really worthy cause. You know there are some of those and it's not GDA or club. They are hardly a worthy cause.
unless it's to get eye appointments for the cross eyed crew, right? hahaha that's a worthy cause.how about the cause for coaches; that care; that don't just dial it in. that don't hold trainings for multiple teams and only pay attention to one. do your homework people. it's your money. spend it wisely.
End of April; weather is getting better; season wrapping up; drove past the club field today on way home; all those u-littles = boque bucks. what a racket.
Ooh, tryouts. The smell of future money in the air!
you get a DA patch, you get a DA patch, you get a DA patch. send me a check, first. yeah, not earned, just the american way - bought and paid for. explains a lot.
maybe this year some of the teams won't have to take the kids cut from their other teams to fill in the open spots. may actually have enough kids to complete a roster. maybe.
lots of bitterness out there
10:38 My daughter has never played for the GDA, so I'm not in a position to judge what those parents feel "is a dollar well spent". You are obviously upset with how things have gone and now you want pretend everyone's experience is similar to what you have gone through. Unfortunately for you, that's not the case for many. Somewhere along the line you must of had a lack of honesty either with yourself regarding the club or clubs your daughter has played for, or the club officials in regards to where they see your daughter playing. Or simply you have not had an honest talk with your daughter on where she feels she fits in on a team and what her goals are. Sorry you feel that your money has been "wasted", but somewhere down the line, your memories of watching your daughter will override the sense of loss.
Little mia loves playing and the memories that have been created with teammates and their families were worth the spending!I keep telling myself that every time I write a check btw:)
11:00 We need a new name for our daughters besides Mia or Suzy. Like Mercedes or Porche, something that sounds like you would put money into and not care about the price tag.
Love it!!Or perhaps I could've bought my 2nd Benz with soccer money :)
Any unexpected drama or unexpected call-ups to DA?We are definitely experiencing some f...d up situations at our club!!Love politics!!
What club? Give us a hint.
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Are the PDA Girls College Showcase flights out yet?
11:52 There are no politics in club soccer. Tryouts and calls up are strictly based on performance and merit, and the done under the calculating eye of highly trained coaches that know what's best for the team. Parents claiming coaches or club officials might be showing a bias towards a certain player or players, truly do not understand the game at its current level. If you do not understand the process, please send concerns to you local DA officials at DumAsses@withyourcoin.com
8:09 my kid has played and I agree as far as waste of money and she is considered an elite player and gets a bunch of playing time. unfortunately with too much disparity in talent and skill and iq on team has been a crap show for quite some time. and coach just plays to play everybody deserving or not. so the discussion was had. it was just lies, unfortunately.my kid wants to improve and so should the others on the team or should not be on the team. unfortunately, when politics prevail not always the case. so, yes, I would much rather donate money to a worthy charity and help sick children then continue to throw money into a system of continued failure. i don't care that some of the others can't play high level. i care that they were picked to be on my kids high level team. that's the bs i won't miss whatsoever.
just try to enjoy it. it's almost over.
7:55 who made the decision for your daughter to play on her current team? Did you look in the team or watch them play the year before. Ask around about the coach and how well he is connected with the college world? Is this a new team for your daughter or has it been multiple years? You sound miserable about you and your daughter's decision, but you are the parent and you do have the final say. There's a lot more than just your daughter saying "I want to play there dad, look how cool those uniforms are and my friends play there".
Second time around this for me. Two kids and two very successful efforts at college money. Sure, decent decisions about the right clubs and coaches may have helped. But in the end the it was my two kids' combination of talent and determination that really made the difference.Our role as parents is important. But only to a degree. The role our kids play in this process dwarfs us.
Love the sarcasm @6:25pm!!Waiting for the call for my daughter, I'll get back to you!Fruit basket was delivered yesterday.
@12:04The club name starts with a P
10:37 I can't speak for the OP, but I know with my kid after I saw the roster, I didn't want her to play GDA. Only a handful of very good kids the rest when they don't show, we are better off. it was her last season (yes I am on the wrong blog hit the wrong one) bearing it (not even grinning). had nothing to do with cool uniform. had to do with what she wants to do when she leaves youth soccer. eye on the prize. club has been a huge disappointment actually. I have seen what they haven't done for her. when she is surrounded by very good players she has done amazing things (select teams that have beaten very good international pro teams). I see how some of these other kids that have few complimentary players struggle. they will rise to the top in the next level when they have complimentary players that all understand the game; all have the skills and iq to get it done. however I agree. I would much rather donate my funds to a charity. I have donated enough to the organization. have no desire to continue to do so.
6:48 - don't several? PDA; PF; PA Classics, should I continue. And yes it does.
6:48 OP asked for a hint so i gave a hint...:)@6:53You actually saw the roster before you decided for your daughter?In our case, they wouldn't divulge the roster when asked during the acceptance call. Probably bc they knew what would happen...big disappointment in our case too.
So I will have to admit I was wrong about something. I stated on here before that there is very little recruitment value while playing for a horrible team. While my daughter and I were visiting at a college and a possible landing the spot this week, the coach told me how found his last recruit that had just signed (D1). He was attending a game to watch a player on a very good team that was going up against a team as he put it, "was offensively challenged". What he found was that the player he went to watch didn't impress him as much as the defensive center back that never stopped playing her heart out, despite being down 5-0 early in the second half. Congrats to the player and parents, who must of instilled that sense of never giving up and playing to the last whistle. So for the parent thinking it's all a lost cause, you never know.
Same experience...do not rule out anything.My oldest daughter was on a slightly more than mediocre team.Coach was watching really good opposing team(team should not have been in this division).He noticed her as center-mid in a very 4-1-4-1 game and the rest is history...
Acceptance call no roster disclosure. Prior to payment is when we learned and after verbal acceptance. After we saw the roster even after the verbal...it is a verbal...I suggested to her to rethink her decision in oarticular
Sorry in particular as we knew a couple players would change later in the season. We were told a few others in pre academy would be joining as well. Didnt happen.
College coaches dont care about the score. They really dont. It is no skin off them. It isnt their team. We care about the score and some of the kids do too.
But isnt that why we pay what we pay? For the product? Isn't that why the kids desire to go to one club over another? The success of the product?
My kid picked her team when no one wanted to be on it. They were last...buried...in their conference. She chose them because she knew she could make a difference and has. I just wish they eould
backing out of verbals...great lesson to teach your kid!
They would have invested the same effort in it as well. Instead they have kicked it down the road, relying on certain olayers to carry it. It has been a huge disappointment from a parents perspective. Happy it is almost over.
When you arent given full information, there really isnt an agreement. So nothing to back out of. Both parties have to come to the table with good intentions...not just one side. So yes I teavh my kid not to be a sucker in the real world.
The info from our club was horrible so I totally understand 11;20.Girls truly had no idea what they were being sold.Many defectors coming up...
Defectors? Is there room with the political picks?
I really though PAC would be so much more successful this next season, but that is obviously not PAC's goal. A club like PDA can afford some form of arrogance when making selections, simply because of their tremendous track record. PF with their high number of commits can act in a similar way and get away with not being questioned about their thought process regarding tryouts. But for PAC to make the decisions they have and feel they are above reproach after the year their DA had last year? It doesn't even qualify as arrogance, just ignorance.
1:10PAC parent? You sound very close to the situation...Not disagreeing as I've heard similar thoughts from others there.2nd complaint to ignorance was their administration side of this...leaves a little to be desired.Makes no snese really since their biys side seems ok
The only constant in youth soccer seems to be it is a constant mess. Does she like lacrosse?
What I do not understand is why PAC is trying to put out a U18/U19 team. They simply do not have the numbers (again), and just had one of their better players decline the invite in order to play HS ball. Sad part is, the U16/17 team has actually lost their overall team speed.
1:10 Sorry your kid was cut. Try Penn United.
1:10, 6:52...maybe same person...PAC oldest age groups aren't finished with tryouts.Yes there are several 01s dropping out for high school ball but they are mostly existing juniors.(according to TW)With the merger, tryout numbers are very high, why can't they field a decent team?Will they pull up 02s?Are you telling me my daughter shouldn't bother with 2nd tryout date?
At the time 1:10 posted a PAC parent would only know the fate of their own child so obviously a disgruntled parent. Next years team roster was not disclosed yet. 1:10 should have waited to post if they didn’t want it obvious who they were. @6:36 no 02’s will be pulled up next year. That was made clear to parents and players so they will be filling the U19 DA roster with 01s and 00s. It is true that many to be seniors are returning to play school ball their last year of High School so yes there are spots to fill on U19 and that has hasn’t happened yet since second tryouts are Sunday.
some were lamenting about their experiences this year and prior years with how they felt dupped or after seeing didn't want kid to play GDA either for Classics or others. There is no way blind acceptances should occur. You don't look at a college program without investigating who else is already playing or possibly coming in. why is this handled differently? Club soccer isn't free or cheap.
6:54 PAC's 02's are actually the stronger and better players than their 01's, and the is why the U19 team will struggle even more. You can delusion yourself just like you did at the start of last year and keep on believing, but the results will be the same. You think the merger will help the overall team quality? Think about what your teams PAC just joined up with and then say that again with a straight face. And as those U19/18's change their minds and injuries add up, those 02's will be called up. 12:14 Thanks for the usual classy remarks made directly towards a player. I think some of PACs cut players might think about Penn United, but that team actually crosses midfield into the offensive zone sometimes and they might not be use to that. 6:36 You should absolutely go to the 2nd tryout. It's almost a guaranteed open spot and possible position of choice. If your daughter is an offensive player, there may be an issue later on, mainly that she'll be standing at midfield a lot waiting to see the ball. But if she's a defensive player, what better place to showcase her skills than at PAC's U18/19 team.
Clearly a very bitter former PAC parent on a mission this morning! Go get em Tiger!
6:36 hereI like honesty but should I be worried? How many PAC parents feel this way?So we're new to the area. My daughter is existing sophomore. She went on the DA website and did her homework. There are currently 14 juniors between the 2 oldest teams, 01s and 00s. This tells her there could be room for her.As I said she heard that some want to play high school their senior year.Other concern is she heard that the U19 team will only have 1 showcase? This bothers me since she'll be a junior.Is there a happy PAc parent who may post on here with facts?I now worry that the answers I've been given by clubs are hot air?Thanks
U19 roster will be filled. They won’t make that mistake again. Will that team be successful and full of true DA quality players? I would say no. Many players want to play HS soccer senior year. Can’t blame them. Not sure about how many U19 DA showcases there will be but I did hear a rumor there will be more next year.
8:03 I'll throw a couple questions your way. 1. What level of college play is your daughter hoping to achieve?2. What other clubs/teams that are within your accepted travel zone, that truly commit themselves to showcases?3. What level of success has those clubs had in showcasing their players?4. Of those teams, which offers the best opportunity to showcase your daughter at what she feels are her two best positions to play?5. Is your daughter willing to forgo high school ball or is that not even an issue?6. Lastly, college coaches only care about grad year and not the birth year, and games scores are meaningless to them. The money and time aspect is relatively all the same, regardless of whether its DA, ECNL, or EDP. each has its merit and its warts. My daughter plays EDP and because of the heavy tournament schedule, has done incredibly well pertaining to the college world. Friends of ours in both the DA and ECNL have daughter's who have also kicked ass. But those were the questions we asked ourselves before making our decision when the birth year change came into effect. Personally, I always thought the ECNL had the right idea as far as promotion of players for college, but can't argue with some of the DA's success either. Whatever your decision, good luck to your daughter.Rage Parent
Thank you. All questions we have either answered or are trying to get answers to.She wants to play best soccer available in the area. We're from NJ, left mid season so to speak but she was playing pretty good ECNL.Looked at PF, not sure we want to drive there. Your club about the same distance but we've heard great things.She doesn't care about school ball because of the new school so no attachment.She'll be meeting with school coach next week, maybe that'll change?D2/3 the most likely for her, due to the major she's considering.
10:10 one more post - I am sure you have done this already. Below are the PA top 20 or so teams with their YSR score. I used YSR and the Delco and PDA accepted lists to provide a list of the showcases they played in. I did not do that for GDA and ECNL clubs since you are from an ECNL club and are familiar. GDA ClubsPENN FUSION SA (1st team)35.49 PENN FUSION SA PREACADEMY CRAIGIE (2nd team)PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (1st team)34.27 PENN LEGACY BLACK (2nd team)33.93 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ELITE (2nd team) ECNL Clubs - No 01 teams36.31 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SA PA FC BUCKS ECNL 34.27 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SA PA FC BUCKS NPL35.75 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 30.68 CONTINENTAL FC NPL USYS Teams36.62 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME PDA GIRLS COLLEGE SHOWCASEUS Youth Soccer 2017 18 National LeagueJefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003Penn Fusion Girls Winter ShowcaseBethesda Premier Cup Girls 20172017 WAGS Tournament36.34 READING RAGE SC MORGAN (will not be an 01 team)Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003Players Showcase 2018 GirlsPenn Fusion Girls Winter ShowcaseDisney Girls Soccer ShowcaseBethesda Premier Cup Girls 201735.23 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK PDA GIRLS COLLEGE SHOWCASEJefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003CASL Girls ShowcaseBethesda Premier Cup Girls 201734.90 HARLEYSVILLE FC READY EDP Easter Showcase 2018Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003PA Classics Winter College Showcase GirlsEDP Cup Fall Showcase 2017 GirlsBethesda Premier Cup Girls 2017WAGS Tournament 34.58 NORTH UNION UNITED SC WAVE Loudoun Soccer College ShowcaseUltimate Cup Girls WeekendPA Classics Winter College Showcase Girls 34.29 PENN UNITED FORCE FCJefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003WAGS Tournament 34.23 HMMS EAGLE FC UNITED Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003Penn Fusion Girls Winter ShowcaseDisney Girls Soccer Showcase33.61 PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM Coastal ShootoutFlorida Coast Cup Soccer ShowcasePA Classics Winter College Showcase GirlsNEWSS National Elite Womens Soccer ShowcaseHershey Cup33.45 PENNSYLVANIA ALLIANCE SELECT BLASTERSPA Classics Winter College Showcase GirlsNEWSS National Elite Womens Soccer ShowcaseJack Walsh Memorial TournamentPenn Fusion West Chester 29th Annual Summer Classic 201733.43 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER PREMIER BANSHEES FC DELCO Players CupMANHATTAN KICKOFF CLASSIC Disney Girls Soccer Showcase
Intersesting, YSR does not have CASL results but for one team. I went to the website and could not find the archived results, so I then did the next best thing. I used Gotsoccer but they only had the elite flights.I can only update36.34 READING RAGE SC MORGAN (will not be an 01 team)Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase 1999 00 2003Players Showcase 2018 GirlsPenn Fusion Girls Winter ShowcaseDisney Girls Soccer ShowcaseCASL Girls ShowcaseBethesda Premier Cup Girls 2017I thought EDP also had a memorial day weekend event - couldn't find that one. So my apologies the list I posted is incomplete.
Penn United also did CASLThanks for the list, interesting.
11:21 (Maybe Mr. List) As usual, an awesome job with the list. Only miscue is that Rage does have an 01 team, but we are playing U19/18 this fall. The 01's are currently carrying 10 juniors and 6 sophomores, but they are all 01's. 10:10 Welcome to PA and good luck!Rage Parent
My guess he meant not an 01 team for fall.Are you adding 00s? If so, you have to officially go with oldest age and be called 00/U19If still all 01 players then all good.
12:09 - 12:21 is right - I went with previous posts that Rage was going 01/00. So in theory your new team will not be u18 next season you guys will be U19. See below current YSR top u18 teams (no GDA or ECNL teams in this list) 1 FC COPA COPA NJ ACADEMY BLACK (NJ)  37.122 CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD (PAW)  36.973 QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL (NYE)  36.774 SUSA FC NPL (NYE)  36.675 PRINCETON SA ELITE (NJ)  36.656 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH PRIDE NPL (NJ)  36.627 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY STAMPEDE NPL (NJ)  36.558 PIPELINE SC PRE ACADEMY (MD)  36.449 SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA)  36.4110 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)  36.3511 LOWER MERION SC STORM (PAE)  36.2712 HBC SC IMPACT (NYE)  36.15
April 24, 2018 at 2:30 PM"...I have had three kids play club ball...I have never looked at as money spent versus money that could have been put towards college."Thanks for a great post! Sorry to see there are those who disagree.The fact that our family has ended up with a "positive ROI" for both our kids is a nice bonus for sure. But we paid for our kid's soccer because they love the game, work very hard to get better and we were fortunate enough to be able to afford it. The real tragedy is the families who can't.Sure, I've wondered about costs at times. But they are what they are. And the "breakdowns" I've see here lack a full understanding of the depth of club costs. For example, do you really think coaching is the only personnel cost for a club?I guess my point is that, if you think it's just a "money grab," why are you taking part in it? That seems pretty stupid to me.
11:21No got soccewr points at CASL, but for the lofty flightsWhy?Whothehellknows?A glitch in GS and YSR point system, surely
7:10 Thanks for the comment on my previous posting a few days ago. Your comment about families paying for this that really can't afford it, rings a common bell. I know families that have skipped mortgage payments and similar payments to ensure their kid made a trip to a tournament. It becomes a lifestyle that envelopes us and we are so willing to feed the monster. But I personally have enjoyed the journey and part of me will miss some part of it when it's over.
12:15 AM,A lot of life for our kids is learning about responsibility. And I suppose that's still the case for parents. Missing a mortgage payment for a soccer event doesn't show a very good sense of priority to me. And so I'd say soccer is a bad choice for those who face this kind of choice.We sure ain't rich and there have been times when the money's been tight. We've definitely sacrificed vacations for soccer. But then again, who has time for vacations with a couple of club players in the house?Tough choices for many. Soccer can be great if it's within the budget. But if it's not or you think it's a rip off, find another way to help your kids.How much do piano lessons cost these days anyway?
We all have had to make some type of sacrifice in order to do this. Personally I've had to give up having my two Saturday evening Bloody Mary's at my favorite dining establishment, and settle for a draft Miller Lite. The transition hasn't been easy, but I'm willing to do all the little things to make my daughter happy.
families make many decisions and sacrifices. maybe the family not paying their mortgage is doing so because their child has opportunities they never had (maybe going to or finishing college), maybe they have another child that isn't as healthy or gifted, maybe they are caring for a sick parent or relative. sitting in judgment re these items doesn't make sense. none of us walk in others shoes.however, if we aren't getting what we paid for; that's another issue. we are consumers and pay for certain goods and services. there is accountability there. piano lessons can still be had at a reasonable rate from the music teacher at school. they need to be a certain level to teach. the state requires their accreditation. not so much in club. so yes, it can be a money grab.
There's no debate that many of us have to give up some things for the benefit of our children's appetite for soccer. But sacrificing for our kids is the very nature of parenting. Vacations and Bloody Marys are missed for sure but pretty "easy" to live without in the big picture. But missing a mortgage payment for a soccer event doesn't seem to be in any child's best interest to me. I think this is well beyond extreme. I see little value in trying to secure a child's college future while the bank is foreclosing on their current home.Anyway, I'm glad soccer only cost me some nice vacations (and a few Bloody Mays too!)
PAC head is senile. He's always trying to cover up. Cliques of parents have learned they can coordinate complaints about their kids' rivals and praise of one another's kids. Then, each meets with him individually saying the similar things in a short time period. He just acts on it, so he looks likes he's all there mentally. That's where the bassackwards team selections and playing time comes from. The club doesn't have enough lights, fields, coaches for girls.
Yeah but other than those issues, it's a well run club and SK and MH really know what's going on. So what's the betting line on PAC's goal differential this next season? I'm thinking the 02/03's will improve on theirs, simply because they will not have to play Sky Blue. That's a 14 or 15 goal pickup right there.
They’ll improve because they made the appropriate cuts and will have a consistent roster next year.
"Anyway, I'm glad soccer only cost me some nice vacations (and a few Bloody Marys too!)"And it's only fair to mention that many (if not most) of us have enjoyed the ride as well. What's the value of 10 years of family soccer to watch?
10:15 ummmm.......yeah about that..PAC needed dynamic players in order to become consistently better next year. Have you seen the roster? Notice any dynamic players added? PAC has actually lost a couple players that were very good 01 mids and added a player that they cut last year. So I'm not totally sure how appropriate cuts will change much. You can keep right on believing that consistent roster promise, right up to the fourth game of the season when it will be broken. I have no doubt the players will play their hearts out and the parents will be faithful to the teams, but in the end the PAC officials are to blame for pushing a product they weren't ready to sell.
No one has seen the roster yet so nice try. Not sure what your hopes are to come on here and bash the club. I’m assuming your daughter didn’t make the cut so it’s really no concern of yours is it? Cheers.
maybe the poster has inside intel. it amazes me how some people have some pretty sensitive club stuff. I'm not in the know and don't need to be, but it's pretty gossipy in the world of club soccer. I am constantly doing a double take...what; really?
Any scores to report?
you know people are burnt out of this stuff. even the state cups aren't a topic anymore.
1:51 You are seriously misinformed, lying, or simply not important enough to be given the info. Always love that last parting line about a someones kid must have not made the team. Doesn't matter what team it is, but there's always that parent that throws that out there as a last defense. Didn't 10:15 say "they'll improve because they made the appropriate cuts"? So does that poster that is obviously a PAC parent, also have info you don't have either? My guess you are either a PAC official or a parent that is so disliked by the other PAC parents, that no one talks to you. Most likely the latter.
Did someone say scores?This weekend's results.1 East Meadow SC ECNL U173 Match Fit Academy U171 Maryland United ECNL U171 World Class ECNL U170 Continental FC U173 FC Boston ECNL U174 Bethesda SC ECNL U170 Albertson Fury ECNL U170 FC Bucks ECNL U173 FC Stars ECNL 2 FC Bucks ECNL U171 FC Boston ECNL U171 Bethesda SC ECNL U170 World Class ECNL U176 Maryland United ECNL U170 Albertson Fury ECNL U170 JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 2001G NPL4 ALLEYCATS 2001G NPL1 Massapequa NPL-010 Brentwood NPL-010 Manhattan NPL-014 SUSA NPL-010 East Meadow SC 01 NPL5 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL5 PDA South 01 NPL0 Connecticut FC 01 NPL1 FC Bucks 01 NPL4 FC Stars 01 NPL
4 SJEB Rush White0 Philly Coppa Blue3 Reading Rage United1 Penn Fusion Pre Academy
Any scores from NJ State Cup?
Hey 4:38 (aka disgruntled parent/hater) no one cares. You don’t like the club, leave. Your kid didn’t make it, try another club. Your kid doesn’t even play for the club, get a life. Pick one.
SJEB over Flames 2-0
PDA over Stallions 2-1
6:30 Not a hater at all. We poke fun at each other all the time on here and it looks like your use to mommy burping you and saying everything is okay (with your blankie of course). Your upset because I've stated a couple facts that actually are true, and so this is your best response? Don't be upset about the facts, be upset with the decision you made to change clubs every year and burnt every bridge along the way (just a guess here, but it seems to fit your temperament). Wishing your daughter a healthy strong season playing in front of a lot of coaches, and that your mommy remembers to wash your blankie now and then.
Just imagining the poster above hitting the "Publish Your Comment" button with a "HMPH! I JUST TOLD YOU" attitude.Both funny and sad at the same time.
I agree with 6:30 here. Give it a rest bud, have a beer and send some angry emails to the DOC or something. That’ll make it all better ;)
No angry emails needed 8:00pm. SK and MH at PAC are fine people that try their best, and most of the parents are normal people just trying to do the best for their daughter. It's just parents like 1:31 that likes to attack the player I lash out at. Mainly because its the just how he is one the sideline also. But 7:39 is right, the beer is cold and tasty.
I’ve never seen or heard any PAC parents like you describe and I’m there most weeks. Some who isolate themselves and aren’t exactly overly friendly but not any that lash out, especially at players. What PAC team are you talking about?
9:19 Let's just enjoy those cold beers like 7:39 suggested, because either your being an apologist, naive' or your daughter is one the ones being ripped on, so no one tells you. Brutus was a better friend to Caesar than this guy is to anyone on that sideline.
Who cares about one parent on a sideline and if they’re a good person. Is his kid a good teammate? Is she talented? This is isn’t about parents it’s about the kids.
4/28 6:35All I can say is "wow"Senile?Political decisions, reactionary...yes but senile? really?4/29 12:43I guess I now know my daughter didn't make the cut since you know the roster already.There are many girls who are quitting da to play their senior year in high school. Yes many decent players are leaving...
PA NCSLVU over YMSPenn United over North UnitedHoping for the entertainment of a Penn United v 1776 final!Cmon Big Red, get crazy coach red carded!!
Do some crawling up MH’s ass like some parents do every damn day and you too can know it all!!!
3 questions for you 7:321. Must you be a soccer mom to do this or does a dad work?2. What have you gained from doing this? 3. Daughter on a better team? If true, it doesn't say much of MH
new ECNL Clubs for 2018-19, with all this expansion and PDA, Stars and Michigan going ALL IN - did the USSF tell clubs they can't do both?Regardless with the ECNL expansion and EDP running 4 USYS NL conferences now for the smaller clubs/strong individual teams what happens to the NYCLS NPL? Do the NJ teams stay in both? do the LIJSL top teams join the EDP how about the NYCLS PL do those teams all come to USYS. There is a battle for sure. 1. Arizona Arsenal 2. FC Prime 3. Indiana Fire4. LA Breakers FC5. Loudoun Soccer6. Oklahoma Celtic7. Pacific Northwest Soccer Club8. Scottsdale Blackhawks9. Seattle United 10. SUSA FC11. Virginia Development Academy12. Wilmington Hammerheads
Some clubs already have both. Mu guess is $$$ rules this.Did you not get the memo? This is angry PAC parent blog currently...
7:32 "do some crawling up MH's ass like some parents do". Now there's something TM at Penn Fusion can be proud of. His pedestal at PF is so high, that no one could ever get there. 6:56 It will definitely be a red card moment for the Penn United coach, as that game won't even be close. 1776 is just a lot more talented and as they proved at CASL, can score goals. Something Penn United cannot. All smiles on the sidelines for Big Red as she dances to an old Irish ditty.
No but CS’s isn’t high at all.
CS would never play favorites when it comes to who starts or who gets more minutes. It's more about doing what's best to encourage the success of each individual player. Teaching how to gain tactical advantages before games and making intuitive line and formation adjustments during the games. Only the shackles of the DA substitution rule keeps CM from totally out coaching the opposition.
Very Curious to see the layout.Clubs to date1. Beachside of Connecticut (CT)2. Connecticut Rush (CT)1. Albany Alleycats (NYE)2. Atletico F.C. New York (NYE) 3. Lakegrove-Newfield Soccer Club (NYE)4. Levittown Soccer Club (NYE)5. Massapequa SC (NYE) 6. New York Stars Premier (NYE)7. New York Surf (NYE)8. Smithtown Soccer Club (NYE)9. Stony Brook Soccer Club (NYE)1. Centercourt FC (NJ)2. FC Berna (NJ)3. FC Sportika (NJ)4. FC USA (NJ)5. Ironbound Soccer Club (NJ)6. NJ Crush FC (NJ)7. NJ Rush Soccer Club (NJ)8. NJ Stallions Academy (NJ)9. PDA Soccer Club (NJ)10. Princeton Soccer Association (NJ)11. SJEB NJ Rush (NJ)12. Soccer For Life Club (NJ)13. Torpedos Soccer Club (NJ)14. WHSA NJ Elite (NJ)15. Washington United (NJ)1. FC Europa (PAE)2. FC USA Pennsylvania (PAE)3. Future Player Academy (PAE)4. Harleysville FC (PAE)5. HMMS Soccer (PAE)6. Keystone FC (PAE)7. Lehigh Valley United (PAE)8. Lower Merion Soccer Club (PAE)9. PA Rush Soccer (PAE)10. Penn Alliance Select Soccer (PAE)11. Penn Fusion Academy Soccer (PAE)12. Philadelphia Soccer Club (PAE)13. Reading Rage SC (PAE)14. Ukrainian Nationals (PAE)15. West Mont United SA (PAE)16. Yardley Makefiled Soccer (PAE)17. 1776 United (PAE)1. River Soccer Club (DE)2. Henlopen SC (DE)1. A3 Soccer (MD)2. Arundel Soccer Association (MD)3. Baltimore Bays Soccer Club (MD)4. Baltimore Union Soccer Club (MD)5. Bethesda Soccer Club (MD)6. BRAUSA Futebol Club (MD)7. Calvert Soccer Association (MD)8. Freedom SC (MD)9. Harford FC United (MD)10. Maryland Rush SC (MD)11. Next Level Soccer (MD)12. Premier Soccer Club (MD)13. Pipeline Soccer Club (MD)14. Salisbury United Soccer Club (MD)15. Shore FC (MD)16. Soccer Association of Columbia (MD)
@11:40 I just spit my drink out reading that thanks.
Yes thank you CS!!
CS is more than just a coach to the girls. He's a pre college mento and first rate go between for almost any college contacts. He is also a life coach with lessons that will stay with the players the rest of their lives. Lessons that the players will want to pass on to their children some day and so on and so on.
Vielen dank mein Herr!
1:55 Yep there went my drink as well!
Have you ever been told about his sideline/bench talk? Where he bashes his players during games to TM but loud enough for the other players on the bench at the time to hear? He’s a real gem alright.
2:13 Those are life lessons part that will last a lifetime for the players. As far as the bench bashing, you think those college coaches are going to worry about hurting little Mercedes feelings? CM is getting them read for the college atmosphere as well. Great job pointing out what who CM gets these girls ready! So many coaches treat these girls like porcelain dolls and then they get to college not prepared emotionally. Great job CM!!
"Great job pointing out how CM gets these girls ready" is how it's suppose to read.
Who the hell is CM and what life lesson? That some people at just plain assholes.
Sorry 4:29 It should read CS, but TM and CS are so closely linked to the betterment of youth soccer in America, that it became CM. After all, it is TM that does the behind the scenes orchestrating, and it's his coaching profile, high moral character and commitment to the players that ends up leaves a lasting imprint on CS. TM is the axle for which PA soccer revolves around and CS is the hub.
I’m just glad my kid doesn’t play for any of this bull#%*+ over the last page!!
But CS can get your kid committed to a Big 10 for a spot on their bench! Bet your kids coach can’t do the same 7:25!
Another PF 02 committed today, and to West Virginia no less. WV was probably impressed with the tactical knowledge the player has shown, which of course was gleamed from the mind of CS. Can't give CS credit for the technical part though, as all three of the 02s that committed in the last two weeks, came to PF from Penn Legacy. Give the parents credit for bringing their daughters where they had the best chance to be seen. Congrats to the three of them.
Hopefully they play
PF parent, you should just make a fan page dedicated to CS at the rate you’re going.
What would possible make you think I'm a PF parent? Sometimes the opposite of juvenalian satire is the worst criticism of all.
There are some very disturbed individuals on here.
Wow...just wow!We went from PAC angry parents to PF angry parents.Has everyone received their phone call?
It’s tryout season! Bitterness everywhere LOL
Remember to ask your kid how she feels about her play and experience at her club. Observe and try to keep your opinions to yourself. Encourage, be a life coach but don't forget that very few of us are soccer experts.Youth soccer is a complicated monster!
At least everyone at PDA is happy. It's got to be that clean NJ air, very little traffic and moms that never bitch.
PDA is the BEST!
yayGo PDA ecnl!!!!
PDA ECNL on Sunday - they didn't get outplayed, they had 3 goals called back that were called offsides... I didn't have a good angle so I am not sure if they were all called properly.The 3-1 loss was not as bad as the score may indicate.
Having three goals called back is one thing. You still let three in.
7:44, that may be true, but I prefer my kids coach to not go from throwing temper tantrums, to being frustrated, to quietly sitting on the bench pouting when things don’t go their way.......
It was 2 offsides on goals not 3 just for the record. They were called right in front of the side ref who must have had the best look.
Well there goes my NJ clean air makes them happy theory.
Is PDA losing any players from the club due to leaving DA? Wondering about the national team players/hopefuls.
The best players were always on ECNL.
4/30 at 2:18 - funny part is parents talk about them as well and what they are doing wrong. it's not all roses there a lot of thorns too. like any other club.
8:02 so says an ECNL player parent.
8:02 keep on telling yourself that!
When GDA parents tell you that they wished they were on the ECNL team you know it’s true. And when the club says we’re all in, what other proof do they need?
8:02 - sure looks that way. I have never seen a PDA team in he Showcase flight that's usually reserved for FC Bucks and CFC Delco. The question is will they use GDA players this year?Showcase 10PDA ECNL U17GP: 8 W: 2 L: 5 T: 1 GF: 6 GA: 14 GD: -8 PTS AVG: 0.88
To the posters who complain about offside calls.Soccer is offside without the "s' on the end.Football is offsides with the "s"
It will be nice to see PDA strong again (next season) at top level of ECNL.
8:02 Not anymore!
Brilliant how MF was able to poach some key players in the last 2 months and turn their season to gold. Sucks if you’re being sent to the NPL team and paid for ECNL.
It's not poaching if the player and parents want to come on board. Give props to Mis Fit for getting the job done.
Some come on board. Some come off board. Works out for the club. Standard move - every year.
6:56am You know I'll do my best. He's fairly easy, to be honest. That guy makes me look like I hold my pinky finger out, while sipping my tea. I may be crazy, but the things he says to those kids, are absolutely unforgivable.
I agree Big Red, keep on shining!Anyone have info on PAC?Do they have a roster for the U18/19 team for fall?
They do have a roster out. It's called bring up at least six 02's and we'll have 12 or 13 players and watch how competitive we are.
That's a shame, everyone expected all the mergers to add players. Do the 02s know this? Heard no one was happy about the playing up that happened this year already...You said "we"...does that mean you're a PAC DA parent?
No PAC 02’s are playing up next year people. They only took 18 players for U17 DA. They filled the U19 DA roster so stop with the fake posting.
8:20 Who's really the fake poster here? The U19 DA roster will be depleted by the fourth game of the season and games will be even uglier than last season. MH did not give a 100% certainty about not pulling 02s up, only that "we're probably not going to". There is no issues here with your daughter playing DA and all of us hope she has a great season, but what's that old saying about fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
I can only scratch my head at the last couple posters.The way you write, you could first assume you are both PAC parents of existing DA players who are actually teammates!!!!Why in the f... would you bs each other???Of course on this blog you both could be neither and are both full of s...
8:33 if your a PAC parent and so unhappy and can only be negative leave the club and STFU. Nothing worse than whining parents! If you aren’t a PAC parent and just want to stir the pot I suggest finding a hobby. Try cliff diving.
Hahahaha! We have a dad who walks the sideline every game looking for any ear he can find to listen to him complain. If that parent knew what the rest of us thought about his incessant complaining and how much we all would like to point him in the direction of the parking lot...
screw you 9:57. I was going to buy drinks Saturday!
10:57 just buy the drinks before the game so that the buzz will drown out those complaint outbursts. Let love rule!
On it. If you didn't already know, I'm always buzzed at games. That's why i go around bitching. My wife allows this only on soccer days because she doesn't go to games but makes me spend the $$ for this damn sport.
PDA shore tryouts have many CSA girls going.
TBH the best player and only real goal scorer on the 99/00 is a junior who went out in the fall with a bad injury. She will be back and the 18/19 will be fine. Middle of the table at least.
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