Loved the cute Boca mommies!!! Who was the guru of the blog that always injected wisdom from his previous experience when his older daughter played for PDA? He was always the voice of reason. This is kinda fun.
In memorium of Grammar Nazi..."Boca moms" no apostrophe unless you're referring to one mom's body part without mentioning....:) then it would be"Boca mom's..." fill in the blank
So If I said, "I loved two of the Boca mom's in their blue jeans", would that be correct?Or should it be, "I loved the way two of the Boca moms' wore blue jeans to the games"See guys, these are the important qualities of soccer that have been taken away from us by the stupid BYC.
Ah..we gals talk about the soccer dads too. Nice to see that we enjoy the scenery at games as well as the games themselves. Happy Holidays All!
Obviously when she writes about women enjoying the scenery, she's talking about me and not any of you balding, grey haired, paunchy sweat pant wearing bozo's. Great to see the Grammar Nazi is still here!Merry Christmas everyone. Former PL Parent
Hope all of you had a great day with your families yesterday. Question for you soccer nuts that have good memories regarding the previous year. Has the Penn Fusion Winter Showcase ever actually been played? I see it's held in the middle of February, which sounds like a recipe for a cancellation due to wind, snow or frigid cold weather. It does however, have some good schools attending and actually will have a DA bracket and some decent non-ECNL teams playing in it.
Thanks 9:39 - Big Shoutout to this event. There information is NOT TOP SECRET no big production. I like this approach the Here is what we the teams/schools that are interested either you join or you post on here that it's to cold like they have for the Manhattan KOC for years. February: 17-18, 2018 - Girls U17DA TeamsPenn Fusion SA DA 2001 (Scangarella)FC Virginia USSF DA 02/01Washington Spirit DAWashington Spirit Academy VirginiaNon-DA teams1776 United FC XtremeDelaware Rush '01 FC EUROPA 01/02 ELITEHarford FC United Thunder 01/02HMMS Eagle FC 01 United Match Fit Academy FC 2001 North East NPLPenn Fusion SA PreAcademy 2001 (Craigie)Penn United Force '01Reading Rage '01 MorganSJEB Rush 01 Girls NPLD1SchoolsBowling Green State UniversityCanisius CollegeColumbia UniversityFordham UniversityIona CollegeLa Salle University Lafayette CollegeLehigh University Loyola University - MarylandMount Saint Mary's University - MarylandNew Jersey Institute of TechnologyOld Dominion UniversitySaint Joseph's UniversitySeton Hall UniversitySUNY University at BuffaloUniversity of DaytonUniversity of Maryland - Baltimore CountyVillanova University
Trying to compare the Penn Fusion event to the MANHATTAN SC KICK-OFF CLASSIC 2018 which is a couple weeks after. Sorry not much help.No public team list so I can't compare.Girl D1 CollegesIona College
What a money grab. Thought DA teams only did DA events. Crock of sh@t. Let the non-DA clubs have their showcases like they have held for many years. Greed it seems.
How is it a money grab?I think the MSC KOC is more of a money grab than the Penn Fusion event.While both are a showcase events they also allow teams to prepare for the upcoming NPL/NL/ERL/ECNL seasons.One is up front you see the teams and the colleges attending. While the other doesn't show you your competition. Enter blind at your own risk to play 70 minutes vs the Penn Fusion event who may be even less.PS. The DA teams might draw more coaches by the way.All tournaments can be classified as money grabs but they serve a purpose for each team that enters them from convenience (local), the right price (able to enter an extra event), level of competition to top level showcase.
Wow! Great response and thanks everyone. But I really wanted to know if this tournament has ever actually been played? I know the Manhattan Tourney has been cancelled a few times. For a February Tournament, the college list is not bad. I would think the hot chocolate line would be long too.
Looks like a 1st time event. The below doesn't seem fair though,but at least it's up front.Fees Length of GamesNon-DA teams $1100.00 2x40 minute halvesDA $800.00 2x45 minute halvesSo Non-DA teams pay $300 more and play 10 minutes less?Penn Fusion event 80 minute games vs 70 minute games at the MSC event for about the same fee.Money Grabs? depends on how you look at it.@ PennFusion they charge Non-DA teams more and they play less. Maybe to payfor the club's DA teams. I like it and since there looks like a good college turnout at the same price as another - not bad and provides A-showcase potential.@ MSC teams play only 70 minutes at the same price as other events where teams play 80 or 90 minuted at this age. But you play local more a boys event draw but at least the girls have an event to warm up with before their seasons start that has B level showcase potential for Girl teams February events are always a roll of the dice when it comes to weather. Sucks for the fans but at least the players are running and keeping warm and that's all that counts.
FC Virginia DA vs Penn Fusion DA will be the top draw for coaches.All the other brackets should be pretty close without a clear cut favorite, other than maybe SJEB. Over/under on Penn United coach getting a red card by game #2 is even money at this point and 2/1 on fighting a parent in the parking lot. If he fights the 1776 mom, my money's on her (tap out on scissor leg choke hold). Doesn't feel like a money grab for Penn Fusion, and besides, Tino is all about what's best for the kids.
Hahaha okay so playing in the bitter cold and snow is all about the kids. Cha ching. The ball is like striking a rock. Hit that with your head; instant concussion. Also having played there, if games at USTC it will be 10 degrees colder and winder. Unless you are playing college in Alaska, why go? Most colleges would never play in those probable cold/snowy conditions; they would reschedule. And didn't PF and FC VA already played, twice. So let's do it again?
what does farmer's almanac predict for those tourneys? :)Doesn't ODP play during pres weekend too for those kids including younger that are doing it? if it's showcase 1st yr for PF, why not schedule around other tourneys?
Didn't Europa Cup cancel last year or prior due to weather? isn't it normally around this time of year also? i understand a showcase in a southern state, but pa or above? Why?
Not impressed with college list for the PF winter showcase. I am looking forward to seeing the list for the VDA College Showcase in Virginia that same weekend.
Waaaa! The ball's going to be to hard. Waaaaa! Its going to be windy. Waaaaa! The wind will be blowing up my skirt. You do realize PF's ECNL teams and PAC DA men's teams practiced and scrimmaged outdoors all through the winter the last two years (and they kick the ball kinda hard too)? I'm not sure how it's a money grab as I'm sure if it's unplayable conditions, PF will cancel it. Plus, there will be good colleges there watching and not many teams entered. Farmers Almanac predicts it to be sunny with temps in the mid fifties, with a gentle breeze from the southwest.
The poster is certainly correct about more injuries in colder weather. I do understand training in cold weather, wtf, why not. But playing competitive soccer in real cold weather is dangerous, and yes I have seen concussions from that hard rock ball hitting heads in cold weather, kids knocked out on field. Training you can do safely. And again, if the match day comes up and it is below 25 degrees games need to be cancelled for safety. It is common sense, professional and college soccer is different, this is still club/rec/whatever dream the helicopter parents have. soccer.
10:44 Have you ever seen a DA boys team scrimmage? Its ultra competitive because of the extreme fight for possible game minutes. There is very little concern about how cold the ball is or if its under 25 degrees.The Helicopter parents are pretty much done by U14 as the girls and boys start forming minds of their own. My daughter flat out tells me her goals and if they don't match up to mine, that's my issue.So you've never seen concussions happen during summertime games? Where the ball is warm and travels at a faster velocity when struck? You do realize the majority of concussions are from head to head contact?I'm not sure how we ever survived as kids, playing all those years outside playing in the snow and throwing snowballs at each other and falling while skating (it must have been soft ice). Some of us even played sports when the field was free of snow (God forbid it was sometimes tackle football with no helmets or pads).Your sentiments shows just how much of a protective shell we now encompass our children with, and the mentality we equip them with when they leave the nest. The first inventor of the bubble wrap uniform will be a millionaire.
12:41 - helicopter parents done by U14? hardly. they are worse as the kids get older and interest/offers start coming in. of course concussions can happen in the summer with a hard hit ball. however, you don't need a hard hit ball in freezing temperatures. you just need a hit ball as the ball is hard already. not worth chancing it over an event that has zero significance. you can't judge play if weather is bad. coaches will opt out as well.
12:41 you're a tool. people have learned too that smoking is linked to cancer since we were kids. it's call evolving. maybe you haven't. sure many of us played sports including football without the proper equipment. do you think the NFL just out of the kindness of their heart set up billions of dollars in settlements and funding for concussion syndrome (CTE) players and their families as well as research and it's known deadly affects? have fun at the ice bowl.
@12:41what are you saying? kids today aren't more protected, they are less protected than yrs ago. i don't ever remember been this overscheduled in sports as a child. i don't ever remember having to do my homework by car light as my parents had to drive me an hour or more each way to practice multiple times a week. yrs ago, most of us did township sports or school sports not club sports. club sports were rare. now, they are the norm. you are probably a coach who will be in their oversized branded coat coming down to your knees; with a heated knit hat; hand warmers under your ski gloves sitting on a cushion over the metal bench on the sidelines just trying to score some of those golden got soccer points to continue to feed your ego and make up for when you were on the bench and were not the stud you remember yourself to be. go play your playstation soccer and let it go. you can be the playstation champion; you really can.
848 - so if those teams practice in extreme weather what makes you think they would cancel? is there a rule in USYS that mandates?and I agree with other posters, practice is one thing. a game and actually multiple, consecutive day games w/o recovery after playing in extreme weather is a lot different. and you tout PF ECNL and PC boys DA for doing this. i have been involved in other clubs that have extreme weather too and practice indoors during these conditions. and these clubs have national championships under their belts unlike the ones you mentioned. so maybe the extreme weather practices don't do anything really beneficial.
12:41 Tackle football with no helmets and pads? OMG what a flash back, we would wait for these big storms (in Brooklyn if you are not a main road the plows don't come for days) and out of the woods works from blocks we would get together, by my block we had a row of garages that allowed for wider field.I agree back in the day I would take 3 buses to get to HS (not school buses - city buses with all the roaches - yuk don't miss those memories - you stand not because you are a nice guy (sometimes because of that) nut to avoid the roaches). See an occasional drug deal but that's another era my friend.Read the posts after your posts. Hello 1:13 practice gets you in game shape if you go 100% in practice then you are game fit when it counts. Meaningless tournament? Please define because anytime colleges show up to watch it's not meaningless. Schools from OH, NYC, NY, MD, NJ, VA and PA not bad to me even if it's none that my kid likes.1:21 I agree parents are worse as kids get older - it's an extra opportunity to play before coaches you play well you stand out in uncomfortable conditions if you don't well it was expected I guess. Every chance playing before coaches is a PLUS! 1:31 he is no tool - I'm the tool that blasts music and drive up your ass looking to pass the left lane jerks. That's a real tool - not someone who posts their opinions. PS when did they smoking was bad for you? You saying I can save some loot on those cartons?1:48 less protected? Where you from? give me some context for that comment? In the city it's the same, I guess i don't ride the bus or the subway anymore so kind of hard for me to comment - I live in the burbs and the kids are super protective. When we played RGMV little league we practiced 4 days a week and played 2 games a during the week. We would walk to practice cross the tracks when no trains were coming I remember the same amount of play, we played more outdoors than indoors in my neck of the woods though. Did you game a lot? We didn't. from the sounds of 12:41 didn't either.PS. I want one of those over sized coats can never find them where can I get one they look super warm.
2:38 That was a great post!!! You saved me the trouble of jumping on 1:31 for calling someone a tool just because they have a different opinion (hate those slow ass left lane riders too). 1:48 Are you forgetting there was a time when kids played three sports a year and with no concussion protocol? When there was actually smelling salts on the sidelines and HS coach's physically mistreated players? The choice to to homework in the car is a choice made by the parent and player, and so is the choice to travel an hour to an hour and a half to and from practice three to four nights a week. No need to disparage the choice to do so, some kids can handle it, some can't (mine couldn't)As 2:38 stated, "when there are colleges attending, it's not meaningless". My son played for PAC DA and I can tell you his winter practices were more fierce than many games (and it was extremely cold). Many boys had a ball rocket off his face and amazingly, no concussions, although there was a few bloody noses. My daughter does not play for PF or PAC, but I'm pretty sure both clubs are financially stable enough that they have no need to host "money grab" tournaments. If you want to spew venom 1:31, simply because you hate a certain club and then call me a tool, there's nothing really wrong with that. Now please just get out of the left lane once in awhile. I apologize to the Grammar Nazi for all my mistakes in this post.
5:04 playing 3 sports a year wasn't a problem because they didn't overlap. you could play 3 or more a year. my niece played 5. i played 4.you a sponsor maybe? or a coach from PF? PDA isn't going. yeah practice indoors. btw - my kid's ECNL Nat'l champ medal looks good in her trophy case. btw - you know drinking and driving wasn't illegal nationally until MADD got involved either. some thing were just stupid to do all along. have a great time. i'm sure i we'll see each other maybe when i perform your kid's ortho surgery. i'm not terribly expensive.
@2;38 - agreed. diving into snow is awesome. hitting the hard cement like ground in extremely cold conditions not so good. have seen a few broken collar bones and separated shoulders during those conditions. but there's no need to wait until jeff cup to showcase, right? all the college spots will be taken by then i guess.
FC VDA is having a showcase that same weekend? Is that info up yet?
238 - just because colleges have signed up to attend doesn't make the event meaningful. competition makes it meaningful. getting to play good soccer makes it meaningful. if the weather prevents this, it's then meaningless. my kid doesn't play for the college coaches, she plays for her team and club and to help them secure a win, if they can. she plays to get better.the people on the sidelines don't make it meaningful. the players on the field do.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/pa/West%20Chesterhere's the old farmer's almanac. predicting colder than usual for that timeframe (feb 2018) in west chester pa. see the graph at the bottom. what's VA like during that time?just throwing out there too. surely the schedulers take into consideration travel of the participants. if it's icy driving that's not good either. concussions on the field are one thing; serious auto accident another.
hey 2;38 isn't it 1;31's posting of his opinion too calling someone a tool. so, if he thinks someone's snarky remarks make him/her a tool then to the poster, he/she is a tool. sword cuts both ways. and driving up someone's hoot in the left lane does make you a tool unless you are driving too slow and preventing the functional flow of traffic. then you're the tool. see how it works?btw - i'm quickly going around all of you and continuing on my merry way.
6:35 So having practice everyday after school for 3 to 5 sports a year wasn't harmful in anyway, but playing soccer in the winter is?? And who gives a crap about your daughter's medals or who she won them with? I used my son as an example simply because it pertained to winter play. Be happier to hear that she was rewarded by a college for her exquisite style of play at PDA. And sorry Doc, we only use real doctors. Not ones that yell strange words and jump over a chicken with an eagle feather.I didn't realize that PDA had one of those indoor facilities with a large indoor ball pit to practice in (like Chucky Cheese). Surely anything else would be to hard to fall on and cause a boo boo. 6:44 For those with the 2019 grad year that haven't secured anything yet, any exposure is good exposure. Time is running out and soon even the smaller mid majors will be moving on. So yes it is a meaningful tournament.6:57 nail it. Our team has players already committed, but they still play their hearts out because they play for the team and to insure everyone gets a chance to shine. 7:06 htpps://scribble@##color.comThat,s the link to my kids coloring book which predicted that chicken little would come on here and say the sky is falling.6:57 Great post!
agreed. that poster said that if bad weather prevents good soccer being played by those on the field, then the event is meaningless. most posters have said this all along.
oh 8:14 - take a page out of your kid's coloring book. just not a difficult one. Henny Penny and Chicken Little and Lucky Ducky would be proud. Foxey Loxey says enjoy the ice bowl, though.
Funny 8:14 - 2019 grads have time. Kids decommit, money set aside for another player becomes available, things happen. Stop sounding the alarm.Now who is being Chicken Little and announcing sky is falling.
Yes VDA is having a College Showcase same weekend that will likely draw schools south of the Mason Dixon.http://www.pwsitournaments.org/Default.aspx?tabid=605511
It's good to see the blog so active again. Even though most of you jackasses don't know what your talking about. It's good to see you talking.BTW 9:06- The post read Mid-majors, meaning that the top ranked soccer schools (major colleges) have already locked in their 2019 recruiting class. So there are many mid major spots still available, which is why it is good to be seen wherever and whenever. There are still around 25 D1 schools without head coaches, although Pitt and Richmond named theirs last week, so the list dwindles. Again, be seen as much as possible and you never know who's in attendance. 9:00 Who is Henny Penny? And Lucky Ducky? Do they have those books near the PDA indoor ball pit 6:35 mentioned? The one where their very careful and no one gets hurt? Be careful because those book corners can cause serious injuries. Who cares about the VDA tournament? Its a frigging meaningless tournament anyway. Only college coaches will be there.
heehaw. just one of the jackasses. quick fable recap - Henny Penny and Lucky Ducky are friends of Chicken Little and all of them bought into the tale of the sky falling after chicken little hit on head by acorn. When they told Foxy Loxey, they were lured into the fox's lair and never heard from again. The fox out foxed them while they preached ultimate doom. btw - concussions had from the acorn falling out of the sky probably.And the posts say it will be meaningless if it's bad weather as some college coaches will opt out and wait for Jeff Cup or regular season games. Plenty of tourneys coming up. PF, VDA and Manhattan won't be the last ones. And that you can take to the bank.
Dates: February 17-19Fee: $895 per team for Non-DA Teams; $395 for DA TeamsVDA fees. why are DA fees a lot less for PF and VDA? VDA fees are a lot less overall.
1:00 I'm glad to see you have a good sense of humor and now I know the real story of chicken little. My point is that if one girl from our daughters team get a college's attention at that tournament, and ends up going to that college, how can it be considered a meaningless tournament? Probably one of the thing I really have to ask this board is: Why do NY drivers insist on driving in the left hand lane forcing everyone to pass on the right. I know both NJ and PA have a rule about slower traffic move to the right, so is it opposite in NY? Just because you doing 5 miles over the speed limit doesn't mean you stay in the left lane for 30 miles. Get the hell out of the way!!!
7:30 I agree (it's all states) - what gets me even more is that if you want to go around them they start to speed up or as you pass them they flash you or flip you off - I laugh so hard as I'm driving past. I also agree with your point as long as their is a school there and it leads to some potential funds for any player on the field it can never be meaningless even if it doesn't translate to funds at least the players had the opportunity.1:11 They must be using the difference to pay the tuition of the DA players at the club (free to play)? The non-da teams get the college coach audience in theory. Just a guess.1:00 if it's bad weather doesn't the event get cancelled? I think it makes sense for schools to see the players they are thinking of giving $100k-$150k play at the end of the day it's their job that's on the line. College tournament is in November and some places get really cold in November when it counts.
grammar nazi rip me apart.
8:48 isn't the granting of scholarship money to play DA need based?
8:48 Your right on the driving thing. I said NY because our of our friendly poster is from Brooklyn and I'm also originally from NY. Although there is a very good chance he's a Met's and Jet's fan and I'm the total opposite. As far as parents stating their safety concerns for kids playing in the cold and on a frozen turf, I get that and their concerns are probably legit in their eyes. But we once had our six year old daughter break her arm racing a boy across the yard in the summertime. So yes, injuries happen and each parent has a different level of concern in what they'll do to prevent them. Who knows who is right or wrong. The only person that's one hundred percent correct on this blog is the Grammar Nazi, and he doesn't even correct us anymore.
8:48 you aren't playing back to back games w/o recovery in college cup; in particular in extremely cold weather. not sure you are paying attention to weather predictions. we are supposed to have record breaking cold weather this year in particular in February.
oh and i'm the chicken little narrator posted above. and, i'm not from NY and don't like any NY (or fake NY that play in NJ) sports teams.
11:11 So your the guy that keeps putting those pictures on the front of papers of the National Enquire and Rags like that. When you go through the checkout isle there's always those giant pictures of frozen people, and the headline always reads"Worst winter in history" or "27 feet of snow predicted". My prediction is that you'll make a silly baseless post in the very near future, but won't look quite as dumb as you did in your last post. Gee, an ortho doc and a weather man on the same blog. Both most likely using eagle feathers, jumping over chickens and chanting some Sanskrit. So if the chickens form a circle, does that mean rain?
only 8 Non-DA teams are accepted:PA's best two teams plus 6 others36.92 - 1776 United FC Xtreme36.57 - Reading Rage '01 Morgan35.70 - Harford FC United Thunder 01/0235.70 - Match Fit Academy FC 2001 North East NPL35.53 - Penn United Force '0135.51 - Penn Fusion SA PreAcademy 2001 (Craigie)35.49 - HMMS Eagle FC 01 United 35.29 - SJEB Rush 01 Girls NPL-----------------------------------------------------------34.55 - Delaware Rush '01 32.59 - FC EUROPA 01/02 ELITE
Which SJEB team is the really good one?
2018 Region I Eastern Regional League37.13 - BC UNITED SA 2001 PREMIER (NYW) 37.13 - PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) (MD) 36.92 - 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 36.89 - FURY ATHLETICA (WV)36.60 - CENTURY V 01 GOLD (PAW) 36.43 - FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)36.43 - LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE)36.34 - PRINCETON SA WILDCATS PREMIER ELITE 01 (NJ)36.09 - NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ)36.01 - ARLINGTON 2001 GIRLS RED (VA)35.90 - BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)35.70 - HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD)35.65 - PDA FUSION (NJ)35.29 - SCS UNITED ELITE (PAW)35.04 - GPS NEW YORK REGIONAL TEAM G01 (NYW)34.48 - EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER G16 2001 (NYW)---------------------------------------------------------------------------35.58 - NEW YORK SURF SOCCER CLUB G01 ACADEMY (NYE)35.53 - PENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE)35.49 - HMMS EAGLE FC 01 UNITED (PAE)35.32 - PREMIER SC PRIDE 01 (MD)34.70 - SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER '01 (MD)34.67 - RHINOS ELITE SC ROCHESTER JUNIOR RHINOS 2001 GIRLS (NYW)34.58 - HOTSPURS 2001 BLUE (PAW)34.39 - PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM (PAE)34.37 - BALTIMORE CELTIC SC ELITE 01 GIRLS (MD)32.69 - FC EUROPA '01 ELITE (PAE)N/A - FC EUROPA 01/02 ELITE (PAE)
EDP LEAGUE 2017-2018 (Top Division requests)37.14 - SJEB Rush 01 Girls Academy36.57 - Reading Rage '01 Morgan36.53 - NJ Elite 2001G Flames36.44 - NJ Wildcats Fury-NPL36.40 - SUSA ELITE G0136.34 - Princeton SA Premier Elite 036.03 - SJEB Rush 01 Girls Premier White35.99 - Bethesda SC Storm 0135.81 - PDA South Spurs '0135.67 - Harleysville Ready 200135.65 - PDA Shore Fusion35.55 - Maryland United FC Elite 01G35.51 - Penn Fusion SA PreAcademy 2001 (Craigie)35.46 - SAC Premier Blue35.46 - Capital United SC Blue Force35.29 - SJEB Rush 01 Girls NPL35.14 - FC Berna Legacy 01G Black35.08 - Maryland United FC 2001 Premier35.06 - New York Surf Soccer Club G01 Long Island Spark34.97 - Penn Legacy 01 Black F34.81 - Great Falls 01G Renegades Red34.51 - Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth 2001G Green 34.48 - YMS Premier 01 Banshees34.46 - South Central Premier Spirit34.39 - Philadelphia SC Coppa Blue Storm34.37 - Baltimore Celtic SC Elite 01 Girls34.26 - Thistle Comets34.18 - Clarkstown Soccer Club 2001 White34.03 - MD Rush Montgomery Rush '01G33.89 - OBGC Freedom Blue33.88 - LaGrange Soccer Club Rage33.86 - SUSA ELITE WHITE 0133.66 - Nirvana Force33.52 - Nirvana 360 North '01-'0233.07 - Penn United Force FC Crew '01-'0232.90 - Princeton SA Premier Elite 01 North33.26 - Beachside SC CT33.03 - Harford FC United Liberty 32.44 - NY Elite FC Tigers31.62 - Maryland Rush 01G NPLN/A - Black Watch Premier Girls 01/02N/A - NJ Wildcats CrewN/A - Delaware Football Club 01 Girls
would hope this was a gossip rag prediction, but it's not. Know anyone in Erie, PA? Erie had a record snowfall in hours; 6 feet. Record...in Erie...that is used to snow and a lot, but this was a record. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wind-chills-continue-plunge-east-lake-effect-snow/story?id=52023330
who doesn't practice medicine using an Eagle feather? Isn't that required under Obamacare?
Elite Development Program - NPL Division36.44 - NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL 35.99 - BETHESDA SC STORM 01 35.67 - FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK 35.46 - SAC PREMIER BLUE 35.29 - SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS NPL 34.51 - CEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2001G GREEN 32.97 - JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 2001G NPL 32.50 - TSF ACADEMY 2001G 31.72 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS NPL 31.62 - MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G NPL N/A - DELAWARE FOOTBALL DEFC 01 GIRLS New York Club Soccer League - NPL Division37.67 - SUSA FC NPL-0136.09 - NJ Stallions Academy NPL-0135.59 - New York Soccer Club NPL-01 35.50 - STA NPL-0135.50 - Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-0135.26 - Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-0135.15 - NJ Crush FC NPL-0134.61 - ALLEYCATS 2001G NPL 33.81 - Quickstrike FC NPL-0133.31 - Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01 Northeast Girls NPL37.15 - PDA South 01 NPL36.37 - FC Stars 01 NPL35.70 - Match Fit Academy 01 NPL 35.58 - World Class FC 01 NPL (3pts)35.11 - PDA North 01 NPL 34.83 - Connecticut FC 01 NPL 34.50 - FC Bucks 01 NPL34.22 - FC Boston 01 NPL33.82 - Albertson Fury 01 NPL 33.50 - FSA FC 01 NPL (0 pts)32.95 - East Meadow SC 01 NPL N/A - Continental FC 01 NPL
ECNL 2017-18 Northeast39.62 - FC Stars ECNL U1738.13 - PDA ECNL U1737.71 - FC Bucks ECNL U1737.64 - Connecticut FC ECNL U1737.46 - Bethesda SC ECNL U1737.24 - Match Fit Academy U1737.08 - FSA ECNL U1736.98 - World Class ECNL U1736.98 - Albertson Fury ECNL U1736.93 - FC Boston ECNL U1736.78 - Continental FC U1736.60 - Maryland United ECNL U1736.01 - East Meadow SC ECNL U17Mid-Atlantic37.39 - Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U17 (2.64)39.26 - McLean YSA ECNL U17 (2.58)37.33 - Richmond United ECNL U17 (1.85)36.29 - BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17 (1.46)34.46 - Carolina Rapids ECNL U17 (1.23)36.11 - NCFC Youth ECNL U17 (0.91)34.96 - NC Fusion ECNL U17 (0.77)34.73 - South Carolina United ECNL U17 (0.23)
2017-2018 Development Academy Girls U-16/17 Northeast 36.68 - FC Fury NY U-16/17 (2.267)36.76 - New York City FC U-16/17 (2.125)35.76 - Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17 (1.500)36.96 - Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17 (1.267)33.73 - Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17 (0.923)33.91 - FC Stars U-16/17 (0.867)32.53 - Long Island SC U-16/17 (0.429)32.90 - Empire United U-16/17 (0.308)Atlantic38.25 - Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17 (2.429)37.79 - Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17 (2.125)37.43 - FC Virginia U-16/17 (1.688)36.62 - Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17 (1.625)34.95 - PA Classics U-16/17 (0.846)34.23 - Virginia Development Academy U-16/17 (0.733)34.51 - Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17 (0.625)33.85 - Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17 (0.600)
Seems YSR doesnt factor in CASL games for the NPL teams.Why is this?
2018 Girls NPL Finals Aurora, COQualified:35.58 - FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01G-------------------------------------------------------2. Central States NPL3. Elite Development Program - NPL Division4. Florida NPL5. Great Lakes Alliance6. Gulf States Premier League7. Northern Illinois Soccer League - NPL Division8. NorCal Premier League - NPL Division9. NEP - NPL Division10. Northeast Girls NPL11. Red River NPL12. Southern California NPL13. New York Club Soccer League - NPL Division14. South Atlantic Premier League15. Texas Champions League16. Washington NPL2018 National Cup XVII FinalsAurora, CO1. Connecticut Cup2. Maine Cup3. Massachusetts Cup4. New Hampshire Cup5. Rhode Island Cup6. Florida Cup 7. Hawaii State Cup 8. New Jersey Cup 9. New York Cup 10. NorCal State Cup 11. Virginia State Cup Championship 12. South Central Regional13. West Regional14. Midwest Regional15. Southeast Regional16. Northwest Regional17. Mid-Atlantic Regional
The only list not posted is basement guys grocery list. This is just nuts.
gotta appreciate Rainman's work. it's better than counting toothpicks.how many are liking not traveling over the holidays for disney and ecnl in FL? very happy about the black out dates. t/y NCAA.
4:08 Not only required, but under ACT OBAM78.3741. All doctors offices must carry at least a minimum of 500 Synthetic eagle feather, or face fines of up to $5000.00 for the first offense, $25,000 for the second. All patients must take one home at the cost of $200, regardless of whether they want one or not or be fined up to $50.00 the first time, $500 the next and $1000 if there is a third occasion. Patients who are not a US citizen do not have to purchase one or pay a fine, but will have it paid by the next US citizen in line (ACT OBAM3097450.457NO/COIN43).
Not to beat a dead horse. But the list of coach's attending that meaningless Penn Fusion Tournament has now grown to fifty eight. 18 D1's, 8 D2's and 32 D3's are listed so far and I'm sure more will be added. With only 8 teams being accepted in the U17 backet (not including the DA bracket), that's a great chance to be catch the eye of a coach or two. I did drop a box a matches on the floor earlier and the way they were arranged told me that it'll be very cold today
32 D3's? dropping balloons? please. catch the eye of the school you want by going to their id clinic.
Hahahaha. Wonder what the VDA list will be like. Any thoughts basement/list guy? The uber hyped guy must be connected to the other tourney somehow? posts are a little over the top otherwise.
1139 - thanks rainman. stick with the toothpicks though. it's rather balmy here in MD today.
never made a list, like our list friend above, but are there some schools that seem to go to every event? i wonder if some schools set up a notification to just default to it when it's a got soccer event or any soccer event? anyone else notice this? and do these schools actually show? is attendance taken? how do we know that the schools that signed up actually attend? just more fodder i'm throwing out there for discussion on a slow Friday afternoon.
hey 11:39 not sure if you're a shaman or work for the fake new york times, but the posts said it would be meaningless soccer if the weather is extreme. "just because colleges have signed up to attend doesn't make the event meaningful. competition makes it meaningful. getting to play good soccer makes it meaningful. if the weather prevents this, it's then meaningless." 12/17 @ 6:57 pm
I guess we can say that about the T&T games that we lost. All that talk about how much water was on the field before they played and we laid a goose egg. We lost the game before we even played a second.3:42 The heat or the cold is never an excuse for playing bad soccer. Good soccer can always be played regardless of the conditions - the execution might not be there but the runs, the movement without the ball and the correct decisions have nothing to do with the weather. That is good soccer in my opinion. PS. What was the Shaman hit song? Was it move any mountain? 3:19 Thanks had to provide all those lists if I wanted to be fair. it doesn't matter which league the team plays in the metrics is the same.I think that happens. I see a community college from CA on every list and Bowling Green also. Maybe they register and then wait to see how players contact them before they decide to show up or not? 2:55 I knew MD was in the house.
6:57 So Colleges attending an event does not make it meaningful? Only good competition makes it meaningful? So if one team is playing well and the the other is not, do the coach's in attendance automatically write everyone of and get in their car? 3:42 states it well. Good soccer in the heat or the cold. I often find it's the team that accepts and adapts to the condition that does well. 2:35 It'll be great to see you lose a little of that arrogance after you're about a thousand dollars into ID camps and still looking. But don't worry, even D3's have club teams to play on.
4:37 - committed di; multiple choices; only a handful of id clinics; but thanks for playing. not dissing D3 at all but the over the top gushing was a little much for me as well. and i'd rather have a good practices then travel to play in extreme weather. save the money and stay local. kids on team are very good so we have very good practice sessions.
4:16 - agreed. but ive seen teams not do what you detail in good weather. no need to travel, absorb more costs and see it happen again in extreme weather. you guys need pom-poms; cartwheels and splits not necessary.
5:51 I will play also. Committed to D1 from ID clinic or random coach at an event? Multiple choices from those handful of clinics or random events? Would you still want to stay local if your kid was a Junior with no offers? Is practice still better then? Do those players need more practice or do they need to be seen more? 5:56 same question to you if your kid was a junior with no offers you would rather put your eggs in at Jefferson and PDA? IF she has off days you go into Senior year begging for events right?It can never be a bad thing to play in front of schools regardless of the weather the schools wouldn't register for the event if they weren't serious.You don't think they would rather stay home? Nope they need to be out looking for plan Bs and Cs if their plan As go elsewhere.4:37 I agree about adapting those players will show something they can do that the players sitting at home can't. Assuming they play in bad weather.We have many 2001 Juniors with no home yet with half the season over already
Im not impressed with the Penn Fusion showcase coach attendance list at all. Glad my daughters team did not choose to attend that one. Sorry to those I offend, just my opinion.
12:40 okay - what's your background so we can add some value to your opinion?What if your kid's #1 school was there and her team wasn't? Would you still be glad even though your not impressed by the entire list?
6:16 - my kid was recruited based on play during league games (coaches would come to league games and watch) as well as ecnl showcases/post season play. if my kid was a jr and still not getting bites (and do you mean from any division?), i'd switch teams/leagues. too many opportunities out there to not get any bites.
1044 - your hypothetical has some holes. are you saying that #1 school choice doesn't attend any other tournaments where kid's club team not attending? that's why you go to the id clinic. you can't control where your team goes and if chosen if a very competitive tourney, you can appear at a clinic or two of that certain school.And, if the school is interested, they'll attend another tourney/game that your kid and her team is playing/attending. if they don't, they aren't interested.
10:44 - are you serious with that question? schools attend soccer events all year long. are you supposed to follow the school or have the school follow you? if interested, they will follow you at an event that you ARE attending. If they don't, they aren't interested. so if you want to go to that school and there is no interest, you should consider being a walk on, doing college club soccer or maybe pick a different sport if you desire to be a student athlete there.
5:59 Thanks - you would switch going into Senior year? I think I would ask my kid to stay put. So there is truth to the myth that coaches come to games and take stabs in the dark. I'm guessing they reached out to the coach or was she a junior and they reached out directly?6:03 in my hypothetical - Your kid is a junior and has not bites - her number 1 school is at this event (she's attended clinic previously). The school holds ID clinics but they are all conflicts with club team league/Showcase events except for Summer Camp going into senior year. Do you wish your kid was playing at this event or are you still happy? Thanks for playing6:19 Yes i'm serious. Schools attend events all year long - but will your kid's team be at those events and how many. I said her first choice so I would hope you follow the school. If your team isn't at the event they can't come watch even if they are interested. Remember we are talking about many Juniors and like 5;59 said they might find players at the position your kid plays at this event -so a double whammy.At the end of the day the player doesn't have any input in the tournament the team plays. If my kid had no bites - maybe i would consider asking her to look at one of these teams that play in many events the more events the more opportunities.Thanks all for playing and since I am the king of lists looking back at the 2017 Jefferson Cup - I put them in groups top = promoted, middle = same, bottom = relegated
2017 Jefferson Cup Girls ShowcaseChampionshipMCLEAN YS 01 GIRLS ECNL (VA) 28ptsFUSION SA ECNL 2001 (PAE) 26 ptsRICHMOND UNITED 01 ECNL (VA) 26ptsFC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA) 24ptsALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 22 ptsPDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL (NJ) 14 ptsBRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/02 (VA) 14 ptsSJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY (NJ) 14 pts---------------------------------------------------------------------SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP (MA) 14 ptsBETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 01 (MD) 12 ptsCASL 01 GIRLS ECNL (NC) 10 ptsTOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) 8pts1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 7 ptsNJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) 7 ptsCINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS) 2ptsUNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA 01G PREMIER (GA) 1pt Elite GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) 30 ptsFLORIDA KRUSH 01 BLACK (FL) 26 ptsDISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC) 25 ptsCONNECTICUT FC ECNL U16 (CT) 23 ptsMARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN) 20ptsOAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL 01 (CT) 20ptsBEACH FC 01G RED (VA) 18 ptsSYRACUSE DA 2001 (NYW) 17 pts-------------------------------------------------------PREMIER SC NAVY 2001 (MD) 17 ptsGPS-MA NPL GIRLS 2001 (MA) 16 ptsPA CLASSICS ACADEMY '01 (PAE) 16 ptsMARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL (MD) 16 ptsCHARLOTTE SA 01 PREDATOR GIRLS (NC) 12 ptsNJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL (NJ) 11 ptsMASSAPEQUA NPL '01 COSMOS (NYE) 9 ptsTAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 2001 (FL) 8 pts-----------------------------------------------------------STA 2001G NPL (NJ) 8 ptsFC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 7 ptsSUSA ISA NPL G01 (NYE) 7 ptsARLINGTON SA 2001 GIRLS RED (VA) 5 ptsHARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD) 5 ptsEAST MEADOW SC 01 ECNL STARS (NYE) 4 ptsCLEVELAND SA IMPACT 2001 BLACK (ON) 1 ptCLEVELAND FC 01 ROYAL (ON) 4 pts Superior SEACOAST UNITED NPL 2001 (NH) 26 ptsWATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES (NJ) 25 ptsSUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 23 ptsLEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE) 23 ptsCASL 01 LADIES RED (NC) 21 ptsPINECREST PREMIER 2001-G BLUE (FL) 20 ptsFC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 19 ptsPDA SOUTH 01 (NJ) 18 pts----------------------------------------------------------NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE (NYE) 18 ptsNEW YORK SURF SC G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE) 17 ptsSOUTH CAROLINA UNITED 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC) 15 ptsPIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) 15 ptsNEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NS ELITE (MA) 14 ptsHFC READY 2001 (PAE) 14 ptsLOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) 13 ptsSJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 12 pts-------------------------------------------------VIRGINIA RUSH 01G (VA) 12 ptsNASA-TOPHAT NTH TOPHAT-01 GOLD (GA) 8 ptsTRIANGLE FC ALLIANCE 01G (NC) 6 ptsJAYFC ARMADA WFC 01 ELITE (FL) 6 ptsYMS PREMIER 01' BANSHEES (PAE) 5 ptsPDA HORNETS (NJ) 2ptsSOCAELITE01 U16 GIRLS (VA) 2 ptsBEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT) 2 pts
PlatinumCAROLINA RAPIDS CR U16 ACADEMY G (NC) 27 ptsFC STARS CENTRAL UNITED 01 (MA) 26 ptsBETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 26 ptsREADING RAGE '01 MORGAN (PAE) 23 pts SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER '01 (MD) 20 ptsWORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL (NYE) 17 ptsSAC PREMIER BLUE (MD) 17 pts-------------------------------------------------------------OHIO ELITE ACADEMY (OS) 15 ptsWILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS LADIES WHITE (NC) 15 ptsMERCER FC 01 SPURS (NJ) 13 ptsEMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER G16 2001 (NYW) 12 ptsALLEYCATS 2001G NPL (NYE) 12 ptsVIRGINIA LEGACY CCL ELITE (VA) 12 pts--------------------------------------------------------------HMMS EAGLE FC 01 UNITED (PAE) 10 ptsCEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2001 (NJ) 10 ptsRICHMOND KICKERS U16 G ELITE '01 (VA) 9 ptsPDA SHORE FUSION (NJ) 8 ptsFSA FC GIRLS NPL 01 (CT) 8 ptsPENN UNITED FORCE '01 (PAE) 7 ptsFC STARS NPL 01 (MA) 5 ptsJERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC ELITE-MANALAPAN (NJ) 5 ptsSOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT) 4 ptsClassicCYA COUGARS '01 (VA) 26 ptsLAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC) 20 ptsPENN FUSION SA NPL 2001 (PAE) 20 ptsRICHMOND STRIKERS 01 ELITE (VA) 20 ptsCONNECTICUT FC NPL 01 (CT) 18 ptsSOCCER VISION ACADEMY 01/02 (ON) 18 ptsSHATTUCK-ST. MARY'S SABRES 01 (MN) 18 ptsFC RICHMOND FCR MYSTX '01 (VA) 14 pts---------------------------------------------------------------RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '01 (NYE) 8 ptsNEW YORK SURF SC G01 (NYE) 6 ptsTSF ACADEMY 2001G (NJ) 4 ptsOHIO ELITE GOLD (OS) 2 pts
Just want to wish everyone a Happy New Year and reminding you that the Penn Fusion tournament is just 48 days away, so spring is almost here.
Anyone know of any teams attending the VDA College showcase?
PA soccer blows away NJ soccer
I'm from PA and my daughter plays for a PA team, but I'm not to sure about 3:19's post. PDA, SJEB, and a few others not mentioned have beaten up on some of our PA teams. Before the birth year change and the introduction of the DA, I thought PA was a notch above, but the field has been leveled out. How many really good PA teams are there anymore?
Using YSR PA/NJ teams with a score of 36+Not sure where you are getting your results from 4:51PDA and SJEB have played no teams from PAPA is W 4, T 1, L 2 vs NJ38.12 PDA ECNL37.70 FC BUCKS ECNL37.23 MATCH FIT ECNL 37.15 PDA SOUTH37.14 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY36.92 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (W vs STA 1:0)36.78 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (W vs NJ Wildcats 2:0)36.56 READING RAGE SC MORGAN (T vs NJ Stallions 1:1)36.53 NJ ELITE FLAMES (W vs LVU 4:1)36.44 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (L vs CFC Delco 0:2)36.43 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (L vs NJ Elite 1:4)36.33 PRINCETON SA WILDCATS 36.09 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM (T vs Reading Rage, W vs HFC ready 1:0) ) 36.03 SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE (L vs HFC Ready 0:2, L vs PF NPL 0:1))
Those ranking must be pretty outdated if since they are still listing PDA as an ECNL team. I know you don't like Gotsoccer, but if you look there you'll see that SJEB and RAGE faced each other twice last year. One game was a 1-1 draw and the other a 2-1 SJEB win. You need to check the fall tournaments and EDP league schedule where teams played as U17. As far as PDA, they lost 3-1 to PF and tied 1-1 in DA play. Since we are now in 2018, please try to at least get the 2017 numbers correct. Out of the top six brackets at CASL this fall. Top Dogs were1. Mclean2. SJEB 3. PDA (Madrid) (Continental Last Place)4. Reading Rage (Wildcats Last)5. FC Stars (Beadling PAW last)6. Penn United (PDA Spurs 2nd place)I know you like to use your points method developed by Nikola Tesla, but it's nice to see how they play against each other as well. You have LVU listed and they haven't won anything since U16 (lost to Watchung Hills Elite 4-1 at Bethesda). Try looking up the U17 results before putting up an outdated list that is still going off U16 results that are also pre-DA. This is why I stated that the field has leveled out or might actually be in NJ's favor at this point. Other than PF's DA team, Reading Rage and 1776, not a lot out there for PA.
3:40 my numbers?The 2017-2018 season (U17) starts Aug 1 of every year. I wasn't looking at U16, that's last season. Come on man, no spin please. USDA teams don't count. That is like comparing AAA to the majors. Dude, PDA still has an ECNL team. You didn't know that? WOW and yet you post like you know it all. My post has nothing but facts U17 games played no opinions. Top 6 brackets at CASL? Check your facts pal. There were 5 Elite flights with 2 divisions each. So the top 10 flights looked like below.Elite Goldno NJ or PA teamsElite White1A. SJEB Rush2B. FC BucksElite Red2A. PDA South1B. MatchFit Academy 4B. CFC DelcoElite Navy1A. Reading Rage 4A. NJ Wildcats2B. LVUElite Silver2A. NJ EliteLVU was listed because their score is over 36+, didn't I say they lost to NJ Elite?You tell me to try looking at U17 when that's all I referenced - you dropped U16 not me. Why did you add Rage? Gotsoccer? No you didn't? Please say you didn't? They weren't even in their own state's NCS Final 4. 1776 plays national league and is the PA NCS state champ.Where did you dig up Penn United they weren't in any of the Elite flights at CASL.
Can’t lump in DA teams with teams like Rage. DA and EDP league are hardly comparable.
Oh yeah, I forgot how great the Cedar Stars, PAC and similar DA teams were. Comparing AAA to Majors??? How could I possibly lump any teams in with them? There's PDA and PF at the top and the rest is all a shit show. The DA even tried to put teams like PAC and the Stars and similar ilk in a bottom bracket in their Florida tournament and it still didn't help. Colleges coaches say it for what it was and went to the Brevard County Zoo instead. I managed to watch four DA games (two of PF's), and the speed of transition compared to the others was night and day. It's why their so dominant. When I'm at tournaments, I watch a lot of games and actually get to see these teams play. ECNL still serves the best purpose for its promotion of players and that's even if the teams are not very good. Continental was horrible at CASL, no offensive continuity, but their Dbacks played strong and the college coach's were talking about just that. SJEB is a fast well coached team that counters quickly, as is RAGE, with both clubs having players that have received full D1 rides. 1776 is limited offensively but might have one the best game day coach's that get more from his players than others would (also has college commits). So you can blast EDP too, but someone is watching. Maybe instead of staring at your numbers, you should watch some of these teams play and see which ones are actually talented. Makes me wonder if you measure your children the same way.
Last time I checked, 1776 beat SJEB 3-0 and it wasn’t really that close.
PAC is holding their own, not sure why the attack. PF only beat PAC 2-1 and 2-0 and yes PF top players were in 90 minutes. They aren’t doing bad for a team from the area they have to pull from (unlike teams near Philly, DC, and NY) and a team that wasn’t ECNL prior to DA. Once they establish more chemistry and the coaches sort some things out they’ll be fine. They have talent on that team. Most importantly the girls are being scouted not just at showcases but division games and even practices. Its hard to complain too much. After all, for most players that’s what this is about.
Does anybody know of any ECNL teams in the Northeast that could not make down to Florida due to the weather?
PAC is holding their own??? You do realize that when PF plays lesser teams, they play the players that don't normally get starting minutes? Kind of like a boxer that tries to carry his opponent for a few rounds. I guess as long as you take a half empty glass and pour it in a smaller one, its looks full. By the way, the real first day of spring is only 41 days away as the Penn Fusion tournament draws near. Temps in the 38 to 54 range all weekend with blazing sunshine.
That is absolutely not true. Check the game reports. It’s all right there. PF top players saw 90 minutes both games. Maybe for VDA and Cedar Stars that was the case. PF is a good team. My point is that all considered PAC is in fact holding their own.
hey 12:29 are you Pux Phil the PA groundhog? It's supposed to be bitter cold like this weekend/week. Lost vacation days and such with Classics showcase.
Hey 244 dont let taunts get to you. Pf had ecnl team as foundation. Pac is holding their own. Pf played same kids in pac and pda. Probably a troll.
PAC parent was pretty cocky before the season started about PAC becoming a powerhouse, but maybe he meant powderpuff. PAC did hold their own and managed three big wins in doing so. Even managed so goals against those other three powerhouse teams that also ended with three wins each. My money is on the Cedar Stars being the most improved next season. PAC did give up the least amount of goals (27) out of the four bottom dwellers that each had three wins each, as the other three gave up a combined 122 goals. Just goes to show that if you pack your defense in enough and limit opportunities, you can be the best of the worst. Or make it look like your holding your own.
I agree with 11:26. Ignore. You can’t argue with stupid. They obviously have a hatred or bitterness for PAC. Maybe daughter didn’t make DA or sits the bench for PF because PF definitely has their obvious bench warmers and non starters. Great development!
@ 5:14 Relax. These teams have played one season in the DA. Not every club had an ECNL team to transition straight to DA.
The power of truth carries a terrible sting. If you want to be an arrogant ass before the start of the season, at least be man enough to handle the truth after it's done. Before the season started I stated that PAC was going to be to slow to contend with the better teams, and oh how the PAC parents clanged the bell of insanity. Never stated that the PAC players weren't skilled, as they are extremely skilled, just not fast enough transition wise to cause opposing teams to lose their shape.Just so you can say you saw it here first, this spring will be even worse for PAC. Not only will teams like PF have some of their better players back from playing HS ball, but disillusioned players have already checked out. This is true for some PF players as well, but PF has the numbers to handle it as do a few other DA squads. I like how some of you want to attack my daughter individually and what she may or may not be (to which your completely wrong). I at no point attacked any parents daughter, only his previously arrogant point of view. It's unfortunate that has to be the level you stoop to as a last defense. Kind of sad actually and shows where your moral compass really points.
I’m not any of the previous posters here but you seem very angry so I see why people are assuming the things they are.I assume you are a Penn Fusion parent since you seem to know a lot about what’s going on there. I’ve always read less than stellar things about that club on here. Thanks for proving it to be accurate. Good luck to your daughter in that lions den. In the end it doesn’t matter how good their club team was just how good she was. College coaches are looking for their ideal player, not team.
What a show. so parents were hopeful that a team would be better than it is. so what? some of the bell clanging was to probably get kids to join. maybe some of the disilusioned have done just that. and maybe with other kids and other coaches, they thrive. and don't college coaches also want kids that thrive in a unit? that are team players as well? so while it's about the invididual play, it's also about how they fit into each team situation. a team sport requires chemistry on the field as well and no coach wants a kid who refuses to be all in for her team.
If you are on an Internet forum for girls soccer for teams that are graduating in the next couple years, and have to sit there and take the time to rip other teams you are the epitome of the classic meathead, dumb as a box of rocks, have to rip those very rocks out of your skull and throw them at glass houses, buffoon. Stop attacking other teams, everyone here is in the same boat, and most of our daughters are playing at a very high level, or they aren’t. Most are getting college interest, some aren’t. It is what it is, be happy your kid is playing and leave it at that. What are you going to do when you don’t have any more kids that are playing sports, come on the forum for your grand kids and defend their honor?Wahhh, I said pa classics wasn’t going to be good enough, and their parents said they would be and I proved them wrong!! I was right and they were wrong, see I told you I told you I told you. Go get a lollipop and stick it where the crap is spewing out of, you can figure out which hole that is hopefully. By the way, not a pa classics parent here
4:26 Love the end comment, "By the way, not a PAC parent". Sort of the same way racist always first clarify "By the way, I'm not racist, but.....It's funny how some of these guys on here love to dish it out, but can't take it, especially when it has that painful ring of truth. What bothers you is honesty and I'm not afraid to be honest about my own kids ability either. Already said I have two in college, one very good on the field and plays for free and one does a lot of watching and does not play for free. So I kind of have an idea of how the system works.Funny that you only coming running to the rescue when a DA team is being criticized and are nowhere to be found at any other time. Others have posted comments ripping ECNL and recently the little value EDP teams have and you were quiet as a mouse. Maybe you could have that drawstring removed from your back that only gets pulled and speaks when a certain club is mentioned. All of these girls will end up playing somewhere at the level their skill and speed of play allows. Your kids feelings aren't getting hurt on here, just yours.
I think it’s hilarious that people brag about how great their daughters team is and are set on disparaging others. Your kid doesn’t have to play for PF or PDA to get D1 interest. If that’s even what a player wants because not all do. I make it a point to focus solely on my child and guiding her through this process the best I can as a parent. You people who spend so much time playing this whole my kids team is so much better than your kids team is ridiculous. Who cares? If your daughter is succeeding and getting interest from colleges that’s all you should be concerned with.
11:01 Dude everyone does the same thing, everyone only cares about their kid. Unless you are with a team or club trying to make the other guy look bad you know better for business model - Even if that's the case like you said who cares, it's called having a little fun with your kid's team and the teams they play. Geeeez.Since you guys and the EDP parent love results so much - will post YSR scores after the 3rd games are posted.ECNL GU17 McLean YS ECNL U173:1 vs NTH - Tophat ECNL U174:0 vs Eclipse Select Soccer Club ECNL U17+6---------------------------------------------Bethesda SC ECNL U173:1 vs Minnesota Thunder Academy ECNL U173:3 vs Vardar ECNL U17+2---------------------------------------------Maryland United FC ECNL U172:2 vs BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17 3:1 vs Carolina Rapids ECNL U17+2---------------------------------------------World Class FC ECNL U17 1:1 vs NCFC Youth ECNL U172:0 vs FC Alliance ECNL U17+2---------------------------------------------BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17 2:2 vs Maryland United FC ECNL U171:0 vs Sunrise SC US Club U17+1---------------------------------------------FC Bucks ECNL U172:0 vs Sting Dallas ECNL U171:2 vs Richmond United ECNL U17+1---------------------------------------------Match Fit Academy ECNL U171:0 vs Michigan Hawks ECNL U170:0 vs SLSG - MO ECNL U17+1---------------------------------------------Richmond United ECNL U171:2 vs PDA ECNL U172:1 vs FC Bucks ECNL U17+0---------------------------------------------East Meadow ECNL U170:1 vs Elite Girls Academy ECNL U17 2:2 vs Florida Elite ECNL U17-1---------------------------------------------PDA ECNL U172:1 vs Richmond United ECNL U170:3 vs Minnesota Thunder Academy ECNL U17-2---------------------------------------------Continental FC ECNL U17 0:2 vs FC Wisconsin ECNL U170:3 vs Internationals SC ECNL U17-5---------------------------------------------Albertson Fury ECNL U172:2 vs Florida Krush ECNL U170:5 vs Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U17-5---------------------------------------------
11:01 It's good to see someone on here with a sense of humor, and someone not holding their favorite stuffed animal against their chest sobbing uncontrollably. Thanks for the updates. Could you also post the over/under on the possible parents heading to PAC DA or CFC ECNL after PF starts playing their five players that didn't play in the fall (one goalie and four field players)? Not sure of field players positions, so that could change the over/under. I'm putting that number at seven.
A goalie, a forward, a 3 defensive players are back for PF this season. All very good players who will see major time.
And four of those five have played for the Coach for a number of years. But with 24 players on the roster, there will be plenty of opportunity for the best players to shine. In house scrimmages will be as intense as any game and the cream will rise to the top. Downside is that the pre-academy team players will always be just that. 11:01 Let us know when the helicopter you use to hover over your daughter is up for sale. I know a few more parents just like you that focuses their entire life on every moment of their daughter's soccer life. The cutting of that umbilical noose is going to be a struggle for you.
10:38I’m not racist, I equally hate everyone. I was quiet as a mouse because I have nothing to do with any of the leagues that you mentioned above. They all have their place in the soccer world, as well as other leagues. Go on carrying your Pom poms that are the colors of the club that took your daughters to the promised land. I’m sure the pa classics parents that you rip can do the same exact thing. My pom poms are a different club color and I’m sure they’ll work just as well. I rarely post on here, you just seemed pompous enough to be worth commenting about. Cheers!
Many basement dwellers posting on here for sure.Having been around this soccer world all these years, some learn sooner than others to find their own lives and quit being dicks on here.
Is it pompous to be brutally honest? Of course in this culture where everyone is a winner and no hurt feeling, I can see why it would seem as such. My daughter and my daughter's teams has been trashed on here many times and it doesn't hurt my feelings. But I do expect those that do are also willing to accept the same (except I won't disparage their daughter). Sorry for the spilling of tears on your carpet floor.
That's because yur daughter's team is always in the lower divisions!!And the carpet is green shag, thank you very much
Ouch, thems are fightin words...On another note, does anyone know anything about VDA showcase?
Hey 10:13 I suggest a hobby outside of youth soccer blogging. You appear to have an obsession.10:38 VDA showcase should be releasing teams and college coaches soon.
Thanks 11:15I think coach missed app deadline anyway...With DA teams going, coaches could be decent...
10:13 When the conversation measures outside of your mental yardstick, you always attack the kid. I have never mentioned where my daughter plays or her ability level, although I did mention the two that play in college. It's funny how causing the introspection of a parents decision (such as yours) on where their daughter is playing, causes one such as yourself to make a statement like you just did. I think we all know by U17, what our daughter's do well and what part of their game they are proficient at, and what may be a struggle, flawed or not possible due to physical capacities. Our goal as parents is to find the best fit within that structure. That's not saying a player cannot improve due to good training and hard work, but the birth year change took away precious time from many of the 01s. More so if a player hoped to be recognized by a top ranked D1 school, as they tend to identify their recruits so early. Who doesn't want to see every player of every parent on this board achieve their dream (although 10:13 hopes for others failure)? My issue is that kids don't set themselves up for failure, but many parents with illusions of grandeur often do. With 14 years of being involved with this sport, I have witnessed the illusionist and the illusioned. Unfortunately it always seems to be the kid that first realizes the illusion, but see how proud Dad is they are on a certain team, so they carry on.10:13 Since you so interested in my daughter, she is a very, very good player (not great) and plays on a team that has never been in less than a second bracket at any tournament since U13, (out west,Florida, Disney, CASL, ETC). Good luck to your daughter and may she achieve all of HER goals, despite your need to live vicariously through her.
When I read the posts, I see much tongue in cheek...are some you too defensive perhaps?How in the world would anonymous posters know your daughter?maybe I'm missing something...10:13 is being a dick...just ignore him...
1:24 Yeah, you are right. And to be honest, most of what I post is tongue in cheek. 11:13 doesn't know my daughter, but his last defense is always the same (attack the kids ability). What can you say except small minds think small.You are right about the defensive thing as well. I'm defensive when it comes to parents putting their kids in positions to fail, instead of positions to succeed. In such situations the burden of blame falls on us the parents, yet many want to deflect and say "the coach isn't playing her in the right position", or "the coach is giving her any time because he has favorites". When in reality, we as parents have favorites, which of course is our daughter's. That line of thinking is what I get defensive about.
Non pa classics parent here againWith the talk of leagues and eastern PA teams/nj teams, it reminded of thoughts on everything that has transpired over the last few years. There were a few strong teams in the area, and when ecnl started, fc bucks, Continental (who was just forming), and PDA were given ecnl status. PF stomped their feet because they were afraid of talent leaving the club for continental. Penn fusion 01/02 was already a very strong team, which had the talent to compete in ecnl, PDA as well. The other 2 teams were watered down because of how close 4 ecnl teams were, and the lack of want to leave the other strong teams in the area. I think ECNL should of done a better job of spreading the teams out, to make the ecnl clubs “go to” locations for everyone. Highly talented players had to make a decision. Go to a ecnl team that was watered down, and hope that other skilled players come too at some point, drive the distance that is beyond a reasonable sacrifice to go play at PF or PDA, or stay with a team that is closer that can play at the same high level as the “big league” teams. And now we have the DA. Same thing, let’s put 2 clubs that are within an easy driving distance of each other in the DA, and leave a big scope of area that makes it unrealistic for players to make the travel to the 3 DA’s in the area. If the goal is to create these top leagues, US Soccer needs to do a better job of strategically placing these soccer environments so that all players can make the choice realistically to go to these environments. (I say environments because as long as they stay as “clubs”, it will continue to be a political mess). I think all local clubs should have a USDA registration cost, and that money goes to the DA, which gets fed with players from locally geographic clubs. If a club is known for creating USDA players, it will still be just as strong of a club that it is now, will still be able to do tournaments and seen by colleges etc , much like it was before ecnl came along and the whole system went to crap.
Well that was weird, it reposted my old post......
Are you saying that sometimes it isn't the coach ever? First, it was the coach that picked those kids that are not cutting it. What does it say about that coach's ability as well? Or was it the lure of the add'l fees to balance the expenses? I am not the other posters that you have been addressing, and agree with you that kids and parents need to live in reality but so do the coaches.
4:55 - ECNL started in 2009 and until only recently, FC Bucks was one of the strongest in the league at all ages groups. When my older daughter joined ECNL a few years ago, they were the team in first place in conference play.
and, my recollection is that only several years ago PF lost nearly an entire team to PDA. The point is that all of this is cyclical. One day you are top of the mountain and the next you aren't.
Saw this in the U18 blog and thought it was very interesting re potential post season play in GDA and ECNL. Thoughts?"...comments talk about 00 kids on NT's and DA that haven't played any DA games yet like Pinto for Tophat. S Smith and J Howell from Real Col have played a few for their DA squad. But how many is enough? But how does that work? Are they allowed to show up for the end of year games? Do you have to play a minimum amount of league games to be eligible for end of year games? Anyone know the rule? ECNL lets kids that graduated early come back to play post season games. MI Hawks last year had girls that played spring ball at college come back and win ECNL championship. Did this change?What is to prohibit a club with DA and ECNL from sending kids to ECNL if they fail to qualify for post season in DA?"
5:12 You do have a point in regards to coach's can also be the part of the blame when it comes to picking players, and in turn either not developing them correctly or simply taking away playing time. With that being said, I think predominately happens at the younger age groups and mostly before U14 (when bodies drastically change). I'm sure just as I do, you know many, many coach's that coach U15 on up. Almost to a man (or woman), they will tell you they would rather have one less on the bench, than have one to many and have to be creative in order to find a player playing time. No coach wants that Monday morning call from a parent on why Gretta only played 60 minutes total in three games. The directive to take more than 16 players comes directly from the club. Case in point, I'm pretty sure the PF coach did not want the headache of having 24 players on his roster. This is where the parent has to be honest with themselves and their kid on not only what the parent thinks is best, but what the player really wants to do. Doing some homework and knowing not only the clubs track record, but also the coach's, goes a long way. For the most part, it's inherent in all kids to want to please their parents or make them proud. Sitting on the bench and not playing is a direct path away from both the former and the latter.
6:10 Good question. My son played for his club team after finishing a semester in college and I'm still no sure how or why. He said it was because it was due to the lost year during the Birth Year Change, but not sure how that affected it either. Need someone like GS 4 Life on this one.
it's like a 5th year senior on the team. as long as they haven't aged out, they can participate. don't know about GDA, but that is how it works (or worked) in ECNL. Should be same for the boys' ECNL as well.
9:26 I guess we will find out soon.7:39 I agree, I also believe coaches want smaller benches. But since the Clubs are not for profit, that extra 12K per team is going somewhere? since they do less events these days and train about the same. Coach Salary, DOC Salary? That's a lot of money for a not for Profit team anyway you slice it want the players or don't want the players -someone is making money.6:10 as long as the players are on the roster or eligible to be added to the roster they can do what ever they want within the rules. As they should, play by the rules.5:26 PF lost an entire team to PDA? I doubt that. Did you mean CFC Delco since they were partners at one point?5:19 I agree - but players change, some get better while others don't and so on. This is the plus for a Club based league. Your team plays regardless of how good they are - it is also a huge negative at the same time. I like the idea of the ECNL being the top league for NPL clubs. League champions qualify for the ECNL same as on the USYS side with NL and their Regional leagues.5:12 why take a player if they will have no impact on the team besides practice. They are playing with that kid's future and that's wrong anyway you slice it coach/club. The parent's bring their kids to the teams that accept them. Why would they not support their kids and look for the best option. If the kid isn't good enough it's the club/coach that need to tell the kid your not good enough for our team not the parents, never the parents.4:56 I will piggy back on your idea. I think all teams that play Regionallyshould be USDA teams - if not accepted by the USDA they are not allowed to play in regional/national events. Much easier to police coach/team/club this way and easier for the tournaments in regards to acceptance.3:40 I agree with you - it's an anonymous board why get crazy for no reason and why attack kids. However, I think the teams in general are fair game, the results are the results regardless of who plays or doesn't play. Sorry
2:48 Really good rundown on all the post. Only wish what you recommended to 4:56 would be put in play. Only place I disagree is where you say never the parent. And up to u14 I would give you half hearted agreement. But after two years of watching our daughters play on the big field, you know who your daughter matches up well against and who she doesn't. In addition, a lot of tryouts are done on smaller fields and played in tight space where coaches see the skill set, but not at full speed. How many players look great in small spaces or indoors, but fail to get to enough balls when the field gets big? The other issue is that look that a coach gets during tryouts is not always the looks they get once a girls makes the team. Parents have watched their daughter for many years and know how much fight is in the dog (metaphor of course), a new coach doesn't.
5:03 thanks. Of course we all know how they stack up. I just don't think the parent should ever limit their dreams/goals. They tryout if they don't stack up they are not offered a spot very easy in my opinion.Is the player that impresses at tryout is given an opportunity to impress with the team - I'm sure they can show the same stuff. many times these players have to earn their way,which is okay. All I'm saying is if these players were given 80 minutes to figure things out, I'm sure they will. It's a lot harder when you have to play to not make mistakes (thinking to much slows you done) then just playing making mistakes and learning from them. I thought the USDA was going to solve for that but it looks like it's the same old story from what I read. Just my 2 cents
Reading what you posted brings to mind the old soccer adage, "boys need to play well to be confident, where girls need to be confident to play well". Sounds kind of silly till you see it on the field. I think many thought the same thing about the USDA, and it may yet work out the way work itself out. It does seem however, that every soccer pyramid get turned over and becomes a funnel for cash. What we need is something new with more letters, something with at least six letters, because three and four doesn't seem to work.
All but two ECNL teams had now have lower YSR scores after the Florida event.The scores didn't drop much because all the ECNL teams have high scores. Will be interesting to me to see the changes after Jefferson Cup for all teams above 36+ +0.10 - Richmond United ECNL U17 (37.43)+0.04 - East Meadow SC ECNL U17 (36.05)-0.01 - FC Boston ECNL U17 (36.92)-0.03 - Bethesda SC ECNL U17 (37.43)-0.04 - BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17 (36.25)-0.09 - McLean YSA ECNL U17 (39.17)-0.09 - Maryland United ECNL U17 (36.51)-0.10 - Match Fit Academy U17 (37.14)-0.14 - FSA ECNL U17 (36.94)-0.22 - World Class ECNL U17 (36.76)-0.23 - FC Bucks ECNL U17 (37.48)-0.28 - Connecticut FC ECNL U17 (37.36)-0.30 - FC Stars ECNL U17 (39.32)-0.31 - Albertson Fury ECNL U17 (36.67)-0.36 - Continental FC U17 (36.42)-0.37 - PDA ECNL U17 (37.74)
Non-ECNL Region 1 teams above 36+ going into Jefferson Cup1 - SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) 37.782 - SUSA FC NPL (NYE) 37.583 - PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH (NJ) 37.074 - GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW) 37.045 - SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 37.046 - PREMIER SC NAVY (MD) 37.037 - UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 36.838 - FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV) 36.809 - CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD (PAW) 36.5210 - VIRGINIA LEGACY SC CCL ELITE (VA) 36.5211 - READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE) 36.4812 - NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES (NJ) 36.4513 - LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) 36.3714 - FC FREDERICK (MD)36.3515 - SUSA FC ELITE (NYE) 36.3316 - NEW JERSEY WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) 36.3217 - ROCHESTER FC (NYW) 36.3018 - FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) 36.2919 - BEACH FC VA RED (VA) 36.2320 - PRINCETON SA WILDCATS (NJ) 36.2321 - NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM (NJ) 36.01
Accepted teams posted? I only saw the championship brackets and sorry to say my daughter is not in top. Hoping 3 or 4
All posted now.Check again
surprised to see Splash in top bracket? no? also never heard of these teams, but these are the teams to worry about if never heard of them BC UNITED SA 2001 PREMIER (NYW)MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN)second bracket NJ teams make sense. FC Copa getting their wish to come true and in top brackets. Rush and Stallions have earned it over the years. watch out for the AZ and ON teams
Our team has played two Canadian teams this past year and both were very physical teams. One very skilled and one not so much.
PA Classics and Penn Legacy announce partnership. This deal should’ve been sealed years ago.
My sentiments exactly.This is about 10 years late. So much fracturing has occurred in the area, I think it's too late except for the toddlers who are just learning how to walk now....I can only see a very long term goal in mind.Possible apprehension with Penn FC plans in and around Harrisburg too...
Penn Legacy had to do something. They had become the biggest rec club in PA after making some really bad policy decisions regarding practice and game time play. The one left out in the cold here is Penn United. Good coaching, but limited facilities to train. It's too bad they didn't join in the mix.
Huge issue would be fitting in the main Penn U coach into the merger..."Mr Belligerent, I get red carded every game" doesn't exactly fit in with the other 2 club philosophies.
That’s the truth
Agree that the Penn United coach is a red card waiting to happen. The real shame is that he is actually a good coach as far as teaching the game. Just an emotional train wreck once the game starts tilting in the other teams favor. It could be a good thing for Classics DA program as far as having some greater numbers hoping to move up the pyramid. Although I'm not to sure if Penn Legacy has any players that will bring an immediate impact. There are still three smaller clubs in the Lancaster area which should consider consolidating with Classics also, PA Strikers, Lititz Elite and of course Penn United.
In the written announcement put out by PAC, it's good to see that they are allowing Penn Legacy to keep their "future's program", which is the 4 to 8 year old program. And the agreement also allows PL to retain all their men and women's rugby teams and leagues. Looks like more of a takeover than a partnership.
1.10 @248Yes pf lost almost full team 3-4 yrs ago to pda. Daughter on team for both. 1 yr college left.
friend's daughter. having trouble with keyboard. anyway, they went to pda, delco and bucks my recollection. some P5 commits. only remarking about peaks and valleys of club soccer. you are only as good as your last season. if well, kids flock to you. if not, they leave. some don't wait to see future developing if immediate greener pastures around.
If Slick gets his top wildcat girls,they are the team to beat....
Only 34 more days until some nice sunny weather and Penn Fusion Tournament. Really should be considered the true first day of spring.
VDA showcase will be warmer since it’s south. Just sayin.
College coach list fairly unimpressive at VDA as of today...You'd think the DA teams would attract more?
You would think that, except that two of the better DA teams are playing in the Penn Fusion Tournament. For Tri State college coach's, why drive 6 hours and deal with beltway traffic, when you can drive one or two hours to PF's tourney? Plus, PA has a Wawa every two miles.
Where are you seeing a coach list for VDA? I do not see one even listed yet on the website.
Are you saying the list for PF is impressive? It’s mostly D2 and D3 schools.
The Penn Fusion coach list is ok I suppose for those looking to stay close to home (PA NJ NY). It’s not ideal for any player looking south of the Mason Dixon.
8:42 Washington Spirit (both teams) and FC Virginia both opted to drive to PA instead of staying in VA.That speaks volumes to me, PennFusion made their team list everything for the coaches to see and plan. VDA did not and will suffer.VDA D1 College List:Mount St. Mary's University Virginia Military Institute PennFusion D1 College ListBowling Green State UniversityBucknell UniversityCanisius CollegeColumbia UniversityFordham UniversityIona CollegeLa Salle UniversityLafayette CollegeLehigh UniversityLoyola University - MarylandMount Saint Mary's University - MarylandNew Jersey Institute of TechnologyOld Dominion UniversitySaint Joseph's UniversitySeton Hall UniversitySUNY University at BuffaloTemple UniversityUniversity of DaytonUniversity of Delaware University of Illinois - Urbana/ChampaignUniversity of Maryland - Baltimore CountyUniversity of Maryland - College ParkVillanova University9:18 PennFusion list blows away VDA list. So impressive, yes when compared to VDA list.
PF, as a club, performs very deliberatelyVDA seems like an afterthought.My guess is you'll lower tier DA going there...classics etc...
The only reason FCV is doing PF is to get redemption.
Nothing is going to compare to NC. However it is a month away yet and the dead period did just end. I think you all need to relax.
11:07 I think it speaks that VA colleges can easily scout FCV and WSA games regularly so why not travel a bit out of area for the girls who want looks from some NY/NJ/PA schools. Don’t over think it.
1:02 I get it but1. Weather is better in VA than PA in Feb.2. Why make parents pay for an overnight stay (b/c they don't care)Not over thinking, just seems a little odd. I know they are the enemy and take away from the player pool. Kind of like the MatchFit/PDA ECNL rivalry in NJ prior to GDA. Just seems a little much for February games.11:41 Redemption? I thought this was the DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY? all about the kids - like I said before I guess not all about business as usual.11:37 Just so I understand the PA talk. PA Classics and Penn Legacy are merging? Penn Legacy has a strong team (sophomores) at this age and Classics had a strong team (juniors) prior to the age split. Players left Penn Legacy to drive over an hour to play for PennFusion will continue to drive that long instead of playing in their back yards and giving their kids 2 hours of their life back? I get it if they burned bridges but if they didn't USDA is the USDA. Same showcase events regardless of the tier system you like to make. The coaches go to the event to see players not teams.
All too late...Burned bridges or not, classics cannot compete with the pf marketing machine.DA label did not change anything
1:55 All you stated was basically correct, except the part about Penn Legacy having a strong sophmore class. They lost not only all their 02's and 01's from the strong team they had as U13 and U14 (all 16 of them), but they also lost their best 01's off of the U15 team which are now juniors. I'm not even sure if PL even has an impact player to add to Classic's DA program.
I just don't get all the hub bub about the PF and/or VDA tourney? seems like people on the board want to drum up teams to attend. there are plenty of teams that will attend VDA tourney as well if the weather looks promising. many are still in a deep freeze still.
I agree too. who cares about a tourney in the artic in a month? and classics will be fine too. they have good coaches. with some add'l kids coming aboard, they should recover local kids that travel. as a previous poster noted, one day you are the place to play and the next, you're not. and it only takes a couple of very good kids to make a difference.
3:59 So all of a sudden the kids not playing major minutes for Classics, won't improve and make a "difference"? Way to throw the rest of your daughter's teammates under the bus! Which is it? Classics has good coaches that will coach kids up and that'll make a difference? Or they'll get better players than they now have and that'll make the difference? Coach Klein and Henning are excellent coaches at PAC, but if your thinking the PL merger is going to help their DA program, that's at least five years out. 3:40 Funny thing is that if your daughter's team had been invited or accepted for either, you'd be talking about how many great coaches are going to be there. Or maybe your club president thinks that attending PAC tournaments and one's like the Charlotte Moran Showcase is enough. Like Clint Eastwood said "a man has to know his limitations", and so does a club president when it comes to placing his teams.
5:12 - i was generally speaking. my comments weren't classics' specific as far as kids. it just soccer in general. my kid isn't on classics. and yes, new kids can make a difference. you realize that there is a threshold on development. not everyone gets better even with very good coaching.
Oh and my kid's team is going.
and for what it's worth, if i lived closer to classics i certainly would have had my kid consider it. why not?
3:59Why are you assuming that’s a CL parent? I didn’t get that impression. I agree with 6:23. Why wouldn’t you? Come down off your high horse please 3:59.
agree with you 6:14. some kids max out in playing ability on the field and what they can grasp as far as soccer iq. not many teams that have full roster of kids that have the full package.
ahem...7:003:59 doesn't seem to be on a high horse. read again. 5:12 does.
What is a CL parent?? Is that the new name?? Classic/Legacy? I didn't realize calling both PAC coaches "excellent", would be considered a high horse thing. Next time I'll just say they are "good coaches". You guys are like Woody on Toy Story, pull the string and the same five sayings come out every time. On here is always "someone poisoned the water hole"!!!
Actually 5:12, CS called TW and asked him to bring his DA team to the PF showcase (neither game vs CL was a blowout after all). TW declined due to attending another DA showcase. Sorry to prove your theory wrong.
Sorry 7:00 post meant for 5:12
7:05 and i think of buzz lightyear to woody when reading your posts: You are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity.
ut oh, 7:13, you are using facts on this blog. may be enough under the guidelines for blog administrator to take down your post. tread lightly. :)
Dang it. I was hopeful PF and PAC would have merged. Would be great for boys and girls as far as development and choices.
1:11 This is what happens when you stay up late watching Bill Nye. No more coffee for you after 6pm.By the way, 32 days until the Penn Fusion Tournament!!! It's great that all the crappy weather is happening now and will be over and done with by the time Feb 17th rolls around.
The irony is that my daughter IS going to VDA and the list of coaches so far sucks big...I have no problem admitting that this is a bad choice, should've done PF...Oh, your mother called...breakfast is ready, but watch the 2 middle steps coming out of the basement, they're wobbly.
Eh...not all coaches register. I bet you will get a lot of VA and MD coaches there especially if they receive invites from the players. I agree it is better than sitting at home!
I want my daughter to be seen...but I can find other ways to spend $500 hotel plus eating out for 3 days....
It’s 2 days for DA. One could manage with one night at a hotel so to many it’s worth it.
I have a question for you guys/gals. We make fun of GS point chaser teams on this board,but are they really good for your child? I make the argument that they are.The below teams are the only Top 50 GS teams in with more than 30 games played in a year.38 GP FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK34 GP READING RAGE '01 MORGAN 34 GP PDA FUSION33 GP ALLEYCATS 2001 NPL32 GP NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL32 GP SUSA ELITE G0131 GP WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMESThis shows me that they play a lot and while chasing these points as some like to call it, but they are playing games in front of coaches. Yes not the sexy schools most of you like but they are playing games.So now i ask myself the question, why is the term GS so bad? If these teams are playing more games in front of schools for their players.
College coaches will be lining the fields at our indoor facility. No need to go outdoors yet!
30+ games this season?? So since August? Including playing school ball? Sounds like a little too many.GS points still have their importance, like it or not. They will be heavily considered in the acceptance factor at a showcase....
It was refreshing to see 10:45's honesty. Unfortunately we can't control all of our club's decision and have to trust their judgement in most cases. 12:17 does have a point regarding college coaches not registering, and some don't even sit on the coaches side. 1:50 I will be honest here and admit that my daughter plays for one of the 7 teams mentioned in your post. It is a lot of games, but our coach put out the schedule he intended even before tryouts, just to insure the parents and players knew what they were getting into. Strangely enough and although we were critical of his decision at the time, his decision to have the girls play in Vegas last year turned into a great one. It got the team noticed, with one player receiving a full D1 ride and it looks like at least two more will be receiving the same. But whether it's D1 or D3, isn't the goal to make sure they end up where there happy to be and they'll get a degree that matters? 2:05 is correct in mentioning that there was a heavy wear factor playing that many games. By the time CASL was over, our players were a physical therapist dream. I don't think any of the players played indoor this year for the first time ever.Have to admit, I was always critical of ECNL teams playing out west, but didn't realize how many east coast teams are out there watching also. So for all my smart talk, turned out I was the idiot (again).
one of those teams has commits to Georgetown,Duke,Rutgers and Maryland to name a few
Well why the hell is my kid playing DA?? Apparently EDP is where it’s at!
3:26 here. I think we all have taken our daughters to where we believe she either has the best chance to shine, or where the system played best fits her abilities. Whether that's DA, ECNL, or EDP is up to the believer. For me personally, it was because I knew the previous success the coach had finding not only college placements, but college money for his previous teams and players. But probably the fact that my daughter wanted to play HS ball played just as big a part. But even as an EDP team parent, I still think the ECNL probably promotes their players better than any other league, and gets the most looks for them. They also do a better job in preparing players to talk with coaches during written and verbal contact. From talking with many parents whose kids play DA ball, the Florida tourney was packed with coaches all four days and coaches do come to individual games (something which is not happening at an EDP league game). As far as those seven EDP teams 1:50 mentioned, most of them were probably in the top three brackets at either Vegas, Jeff, Bethesda, Disney and CASL or maybe even Dallas if they got accepted. Otherwise, the chances of being seen drops considerably. Unlike DA and ECNL teams. EDP teams are somewhat limited on their options where to go and if your team is one of the better teams, finding quality matches may only happen at tourney's. I was surprised not to see 1776 not on that list though. Very good EDP team with multiple college commits so far and an excellent coach. I know PF had their first practice tonight (unless the snow cancelled that idea), and so the season starts. Let's hope for a healthy season for all involved as this is a huge year for our girls.
10:53 as an EDP player has your daughter found success in getting looks and having D1 level schools in particular reach out to her (or her coach about her).
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