Monday, April 23, 2018

U17 (2001) Girls Youth Soccer

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Anonymous said...

Premier Cup in VA is no where near the level of CASL. Some groups had only one flight last year. Sounds like coach is looking for wins and not exposure to coaches.

Anonymous said...

11:51
So what you're saying is that attacking midfield and strikers that know how to defend in a formation to force the ball into where the defensive pressure sits isn't a skill set? Last time I checked most high level games are usually within a goal or two of each other. If I was a coach, I'd be looking for a player that can attack when the game dictates, and understand their role in a defensive formation when the game dictates as well. Playing good defense takes 11 players.

Playing a 3-5-2 is a perfect example, best way to attack it is to get the ball switched and up the flanks. Attacking mids and strikers need to make sure the ball doesn't go through the defensive center mid area, and make sure it has to go around them through the center backs (slow down the switching of the ball) and then outside mids need to take the outside lanes away so the ball has to be played into the center of the field in the attacking teams defensive half. It takes a whole team working together to do that.

Personally, I'll take the coach that showcases its players on both sides of the ball over a coach that just showcases one side of the ball and wins 5-3

Anonymous said...

And I just want to add, I'm not talking about parking the bus. I'm talking about playing with a defensive mindset that you are not going to put yourself at risk of letting the other team attack at you. Playing defensively still allows for a team to control the ball and get opportunities. Like I said, it's a different style of play, and just as important to the game of soccer. Youth soccer rankings doesn't allow for that style in its system, and is why you have to look a lot deeper than the ranking points to tell what a team is

Anonymous said...

I was not attacking your system if that works for you. I was talking about teams are content to set in when the game is tied or their ahead by one goal, watching their single high striker chase the ball back and forth between the other teams defensive backs. Are you telling me that the single striker constantly chasing the ball is showing a certain skill set? Although every once in a while she does get to show some speed while chasing the ball before the keeper picks it up and rolls it out to a back. Worst of all, these teams often end up losing because of the sheer volume of offensive chances they give the teams their playing.

I think you'll agree if you train your players right, you can have an open game and still end up with a 2-1 or 1-0 game. And guess what, your players now have shown everything they can do. My daughter's team plays a 4-3-3 and they allow very few goals, and sometimes they'll switch to a 3-4-3 to increase pressure. It allows coaches to see one touch soccer and the D-backs to show their ball skills as well. It also forces the wings to help back on defense and doesn't allow for standing and watching (I think coaches might like that too). But most of all, it allows everyone to be seen to their fullest potential as long as they taken the time to work on their game.
I do like the use of the 3-5-2, especially if you have strong attacking mids and obviously I'm not talking about teams that play this formation. The 3-5-2 is the perfect formation for teams that want to clog up the center and it does draw those center backs to the edges. Good luck at Disney or CASL

Anonymous said...

6:54 here. Meant to say the 3-5-2 is perfect for playing against those teams that want to clog up the center. I should prof read a little more.

Anonymous said...

The beauty of a 3-5-2 is if you want to play an attacking mindset you get your outside mids high, and your defensive center mids slide sideways to cover the space behind, or your outside back pushes into that space (and can make attacking runs as well), your center back slides wider, and your defensive center mid drops straight back.
It requires a lot of attention to what your defensive center mids are doing, and where they are on the field when turnovers happen etc.
It provides for a good amount of players forward at all times. It requires a lot of work from your defensive center mids.

In a defensive mindset, you just drop the outside mids deeper, and allow the 2 forwards and attacking center mid to cover more space up top, checking back and playing with back to goal to allow players to get forward, and still allows for 2 players up top to work off each other.

Good teams can feel the flow of the game and how it dictates to play during that time of the game, will even lull other teams into their more defensive mindset, and then just move the mids forward and all of a sudden have numbers forward without really doing anything different.

If both teams are playing a 3-5-2, then the team that will be more successful usually are the ones that can move the ball quicker in the middle of the field.

With all that being said, this style tends to produce less goals, especially when you play more defensively minded against a good team (say a team with 3 points more than you on youth rankings), and you choose your moments in the game to get one or both of your mids higher. You are still showcasing offensively/defensively, but your not allowing a team that for all intents if you run and gun with them will probably beat you, but has to figure out how to break you down (see earlier post about making them play the ball inward sooner than they want). In youth soccer rankings, it doesn't take any of that into account. You could play a 2-2-6, and win 11-8 against an even ranked team and your score will go up. If you play your style, and the game dictates and plays out to a 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 score, your score doesn't change hardly at all, and drops that 3point losing team back into the pack a little. That's where it's flawed, and why I go back to that a win is a win, it doesn't matter if it's 1-0, or 15-0. That first goal above the other team is the one that matters, and is why there's teams in the 50-150 range that are much better than their ranking shows.

Anonymous said...

somebody likes to give away their teams' playbook.

Anonymous said...

@7:33
Lol, soccer formations and how players move within them isn't hard to figure out. This isn't football, well it is, but you know what I mean

Anonymous said...

It is a real tough one. You should always play to win. Showcasing is important, but you have to learn to win to play in HS, league matches, state cups and of course college. Learning to win is a mind set of the team and coach. If the coach or girls are pessimistic and try not to embarrass themselves or coach thinks teams are too good and does the old 9-1 formation it is not good. Teams win with multiple shots on goal, not multiple shots on their own goal. Many corner kicks and shots on goal = goals. Keeping possession and being confident in your offense is a winning situation. Playing defensively and stressing out the D and goalie is not a good idea.

Anonymous said...

1:33 Agreed. But at least the coaches attending will get a good look at the keepers ability.

Anonymous said...

CASL Under 17 Girls
* my prediction to win the flight

Elite Gold Division
39.18* Mclean Ecnl
37.54 SUSA ISA G01 NPL
37.43 North Shore United SC 01
37.10 Richmond United Ecnl 01
36.87 World Class FC Ecnl 01 World Class FC - NY
36.52 FC Boston Scorpions Ecnl 01
36.50 JB Marine 01 Schneider
36.10 CO Storm 01 ECNL

Elite White Division
37.89* South Shore Select 01 AP
37.61 CRUSA FC Buck ECNL 01
37.36 Bethesda Union 01 ECNL
37.04 SJEB Rush 01 Girls Academy
36.65 DSC 01 Lady Gold Premier
36.51 MD United FC 01G ECNL
36.24 Tampa Bay United Rowdies 01G ECNL
35.58 Carolina Rapids ECNL 01

Elite Red Division
36.99* PDA Madrid (NJ)
36.90 Fury Athletica
36.65 NCFC ECNL 01
36.64 Continental FC 01 ECNL
36.44 Saltfleet Stoney Creek 2001 Black
35.68 Match Fit Academy NE NPL 01
35.47 01 Florida Krush Black
34.62 NC Fusion 02 ECNL

Elite Navy Division
36.94 Woolwich Wolfpack 01 Girls
36.44* Reading Rage 01 Morgan
37.43 CSA North-cab Predator G
36.33 LVU 2001 Girls Black
36.30 CSA Impact United 01G Nike MRL Black
36.28 NJ Wildcats Fury NPL
36.28 SUSA Elite 01
36.22 01 NCFC Elite G

Elite Silver Division
37.18 United FC 01G-GR
36.57 Hamilton United Elite OPDL 2001G
36.40* NJ Elite Flames
36.18 FCX 2001 Black
36.12 FC Stars NPL 2001
36.08 Beach FC Red 01
35.73 Beadling Elite
35.36 GPS MA 2001 NPL Girls

Anonymous said...

I would agree with you on two of the brackets. But of course I'll have to look over the teams myself and then give my expert analysis.

Anonymous said...

EDP Showcase Saturday, Sunday - top 2 flights

(top}

SUSA Elite
FC Copa Black
Princeton
PDA South

SJEB Rush
NJ Stallions
Rush Canada
HFC Ready

(second)

Vaughn SC CND
Alleycats
FC Bucks NPL
Cedar Stars Bergen West

Syracuse DA
NJ Wildcats Crew
FC Berna
St-Hubert Spatial CND

- bracket winners play a final (4th game)





Anonymous said...

thank you!

Anonymous said...

So Weak......wow what happen to this age? DA?

Anonymous said...

DA or the below?

3 games or 180 mins for $1,245.00
Games are two (2) halves of thirty (30) minutes each for ages U11 and older

30 minute halves vs others like Bethesda
U16/U17 $1,300.00
3 games or 240 mins for $55 more

Anonymous said...

Parents pay anyway. so now coaches are becoming penny watchers. sure.

Anonymous said...

Time to switch to softball

Anonymous said...

Switch to softball? Who doesn't like watching Women's College Softball? Always amazed how big some the pitchers are (legs like small oak trees).

Anonymous said...

don't knock it, softball, lacrosse and rugby seem to get television coverage on the sports channels. to get soccer games you have to crack a secret code.

Anonymous said...

So how many coaches on the sideline this weekend?

Anonymous said...

18 on the first day, 12 on the second.

Anonymous said...

What divisioon?

Anonymous said...

4th from top

Anonymous said...

which teams were playing behind or next to the DA games? stopped by to watch those games and could not help to watch the sidelines of the games behind and to the side.
way to celebrate parents. thought it was the World Cup being played; multiple chest bumping stations going on by parents. was surprised at the air some were getting.

Anonymous said...

Women's college soccer has actually been getting a good deal of coverage. My daughter and I were flipping back and forth to watch ACC, SEC and Big Ten playoffs. YES network carried a lot of SEC games in our area and at one point three networks were carrying games at the same time. One thing we talked about, was how difficult it was to not only score, but even to get quality shots. Teams like Duke just doesn't give any ground. Girls are fast and extremely tough, plus the refs keep the whistles in their pockets.

Anonymous said...

What about all the games that went to PK's or OT? And the upsets.

Anonymous said...

great weekend GFA

Anonymous said...

GFA could not field a team so they forfeited all games.

Anonymous said...

Sucks if your daughter is looking for recruitment and she's on gfa
Any other teams around she can play?

Anonymous said...

4:29 That's true. So many of the games were decided in overtime or by PK's at the end. The sad one was when a defensive player headed the ball in her own goal to end it in overtime.
On another note. How brilliant are the Disney Showcase marketing official? Charging $18.00 to get into the games to see your own kid play. You think they all got together one day and said, "listen guys, I still think we can squeeze a few more dollars out of these parent, but how?". Guess they didn't want to charge $20 because that would seem exorbitant.

Anonymous said...

So is IGFA PSA 01 done? Not enough players? How does a team that won so many tournaments last year fade away?

Anonymous said...

gfa/psa/wildcats. lol. The 01 group and many other players went to ECNL or DA. That is why the decline.

Anonymous said...

That has happened to many teams...but why the lol?
How would you feel if your daughter was one on those teams and didn't have many choices?

Anonymous said...

Region 1 Top non GDA/ECNL teams
(+/- pts after Bethesda & EDP events)

37.83 (-0.11) SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA)
37.47(-0.03) SUSA FC NPL (NYE)
37.00 (-0.19) SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)
36.97 (-0.14) GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW)
36.96(-0.13) PDA SOUTH NPL (NJ)
36.86 (-0.15) FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV)
36.67 (-0.16) PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)
36.50 (-0.23) UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)
36.47 (n/a) VIRGINIA LEGACY SC CCL ELITE (VA)
36.46 (-1.01) PRINCETON SA WILDCATS (NJ)
36.41 (-0.03) FC FREDERICK (MD)
36.40 (-0.21) READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE)
36.37 (+0.03) NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES (NJ)
36.36 (-0.13) SUSA FC ELITE (NYE)
36.29 (-0.19) ROCHESTER FC (NYW)
36.29 (-0.17) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE)
36.24 (-0.25) NEW JERSEY WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)
36.13 (-0.22) PDA NORTH NPL (NJ)
36.07 (-0.52) FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
36.07 (-0.15) ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)
36.04 (-0.25) BEACH FC VA RED (VA)

Anonymous said...

Region 1 teams @ Disney Girls Soccer Showcase
BEACH FC 01 RED (VA)
FC COPA ACADEMY 01 BLACK (NJ)
PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)
NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ)
READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE)
VIRGINIA RUSH 01 (VA)
PDA SOUTH SPURS 01 (NJ)
WATCHUNG HILLS SA NJ ELITE 2001 FLAMES (NJ)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 0102 (MD)
LOUDOUN SOCCER 01 RED (VA)
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 UNITED (PAE)
GREAT FALLS 01 RENEGADES RED (VA)
NEW YORK SC ELITE 01 NPL (NYE)
STA 2001 NPL (NJ)
BALTIMORE CELTIC SC ELITE 01 (MD)
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER PREMIER 01 BANSHEES (PAE)
FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01 (VA)
BALTIMORE CELTIC SC NORTH 01 (MD)
SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER 01 (MD)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Region 1 teams @ National Elite Women's Soccer Showcase

ECNL
MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ)
ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)
EAST MEADOW ECNL 2001 DASH (NYE)
WNY FLASH ACADEMY WNY FLASH 01G ECNL (NYW)

Non-ECNL
PSA WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ)
MASSAPEQUA NPL '01 COSMOS (NYE)
YANKEE UNITED F.C. FLASH NPL-01 (CT)
SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS NPL (NJ)
ALLEYCATS 2001G NPL (NYE)
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTHEAST NPL 2001 (NJ)
CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE)
BRENTWOOD SC NPL BLAZE 2001 (NYE)
NJ WILDCATS CREW (NJ)
CONNECTICUT FC (CFC) CONNECTICUT FC NPL 01 (CT)
NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 EDP (NYE)
CLARKSTOWN 2001 ELITE (NYE)
NEW YORK SURF NY SURF G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE)
HAMILTON ELITE FC - ACADEMY AVALANCHE (NJ)
NIRVANA 360 INTRIGUE (NYE)
DENVILLE PREMIER SOCCER LIGHTNING (NJ)
NEXT LEVEL 01 GIRLS (NJ)
PENNSYLVANIA ALLIANCE SELECT BLASTERS (PAE)
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY HORNETS (NJ)
PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM (PAE)
GPS-NEW YORK ELITE 01 (NYW)
NORTHEAST ATTACK GIRLS 01 (PAE)
EAST MEADOW NPL EAST MEADOW/SMITHTOWN CRIMSON TIDE (NYE)
CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F (PAE)
ALBERTSON FURY NPL 01 (NYE)
BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)
JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 2001G NPL (NJ)
STONY BROOK BARCELONA (NYE)
CEDAR STARS ACADEMY BERGEN WEST 01 GREEN (FORMERLY NJ CRUSH STORM W) (NJ)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL (NYE)
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 RED (NJ)
LYNBROOK EAST ROCKAWAY SC SCREAMIN EAGLES (NYE)
LDC UNITED ATTACK (PAE)
PSC DYNAMO CT 02 (CT)
NY ELITE FC TIGERS (NYE)
ATHLETES FOR THE CROSS AFC UNITED (PAE)
STONY BROOK ESPANYOL (NYE)
VYSA EXPRESS (NYW)
STA 2001G EDP (NJ)
SUSA ELITE WHITE 01 (NYE)
NEW ROCHELLE RT PREMIER (NYE)

Anonymous said...

no ECNL teams at Disney from R1? They are going to Newss instead. Truthfully my daughter and her team rather play the ECNL teams instead of going to Disney to play league games.

Anonymous said...

Who plays league games at Disney?

Anonymous said...

ECNL is holding a tournament in January for all their teams. I think its in the second weekend.

Anonymous said...

Look at the teams at Disney. They are teams you would play in EDP DI. No ecnl teams. That is what I mean. In the past when you went to events you would play ecnl teams here and there, and mostly in top brackets.

Anonymous said...

this whole soccer landscape is screwed up anymore. thanks us soccer.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at the standings for the DA teams as of this week. There are three really good teams that can beat any team in the league and there are a couple average teams that can only beat the bottom three or each other. It strongly resembles the ECNL league of previous years, only now the Cedar Stars and Virginia Development Academy have replaced FC Bucks and CFC as the worst teams.
Even the current ECNL and EDP leagues will be the same as before, three teams at the the top, a couple in the middle and three horrible teams at the bottom. Just the names and the positions change as the players move from team to team chasing the carrot on a stick.
But if you have been one of those parents that have moved your kid three different times in three years, you have to ask yourself where the problem truly lies and who is the common denominator?
We can't just lay the blame with US Soccer and their insistence on putting new bigger, brighter shiny letters out there each year. We the parents are certainly a large part of the problem (present company included). So many of us put so a priority on winning even at the youngest levels, that we sacrifice proper training methods and judge our coaches ability by it. Only now that I have had two kids go through it and play in college and one still in high school, do I realize how silly some of it was and how many stupid mistakes I made. My second child has pretty much a full scholarship and yet never played above a third bracket in any tournament (think about that). Yet my first one which I spent great sums of money on, has received very little in the way of scholarship money and yet almost always played with better teams in top tiers all the time.
Should I blame US Soccer for putting the venues out there? Or myself for being the fool that didn't understand where my child needed to be? At this point I'm pretty sure I was the fool.

Anonymous said...

6:43 truth and conversation. With my daughter, here is the problem. She wants to play against the best of the best. She is not satisfied with 3rd bracket. My son is fine with that and does not care, and he is a great soccer player. I get that parents get in the middle, but usually for good reason. Yes you have the parents reliving through their kids. You also have the players that are hungry and making their own mark at this age grouping. They are becoming adults and making their own decisions. Where I strongly disagree with 643 is that US soccer has not screwed it up. it is actually ridiculous to have National League, ERL, EDP, JAGS, NPL, ECNL and now DA. This in itself is just a massive, massive problem. ECNL should have became DA or something like that. JAGS should go away, but 2-3 years ago in JAGS you played the current DA teams, or ECNL teams.

Anonymous said...

the GFA01 coach had a huge ego and ruined the team over time.

Anonymous said...

12:01
that is what us soccer allowed to occur; the emergence of the da without eliminating or consolidating the other leagues. it is the governing party of soccer in our country. it could or should step in and make the system a lot better. the pyramid is out of control.

Anonymous said...

agreed. as an above poster noted 2-3 yrs ago various leagues were relevant. multiple changes have occurred since then biggest being GDA. there is an oversaturation of leagues anymore.
just like us soccer mandated the move to birth year, it should mandate the consolidation of various leagues.

Anonymous said...

12:48 A BIG YES!!!

Anonymous said...

I disagree - I think, I don't think we need to consolidate, just be a little more organized when it comes to Elite soccer. I hate using Elite sorry.

I believe you need JAGS, PAGS, WAGS, NEP, EDP & CCL to name a few. Some teams just don't want to travel and there is nothing wrong with that.

I agree US Club and USYS should play nice.

Would love to see the below 12 teams duke it out at one event.
4 National league Division champs, NPL final 4, ECNL final 4

Oh yeah this event should be at a GDA event. This would give the USSF other options as well and be great for the Colleges.

Just my 2 cents.

Anonymous said...

12:01 (6:43 here) I fully understand that your daughter wants to play the best so she can be fully challenged. But do you think driving to Virginia to beat a team 6-0, or PF's beating the the Cedar Stars 8-0 qualifies as that? I didn't say absolve US Soccer of blame, they are a big part of this mess and of course will never own up to it (although they will most likely start another league). What I did say is that we as parents feed into it, often without thinking it all the way through.
12:41 posted a good point regarding consolidation of leagues, but what really is needed (but many parents would scream) is regionalization regarding how far a player may travel. I only say this because if you want US Soccer to step in and be tyrannical in its approach to consolidation of leagues and fix what was suppose to be a pyramid building system, it would also need to regionalize. 12:41 is correct in saying the pyramid is out of control, at this point it's just blocks thrown here and there.
Good stuff guys

Anonymous said...

Right now USSF isn't paying attention to anything other than hosting The Dating Game - USSF Pres version. Alliances are being built and courted while the numerous candidates make their way through the system. Talk about bricks all over the place.

Anonymous said...

So I've given some thought about what 12:01 said yesterday. Like his daughter, my daughter also looked forward to playing against better competition. But in attempting to do this, I have also found myself having her tryout for the best team possible even if it meant spending more money and traveling greater distances. What I found was that yes she were on an incredibly talented team that dominated almost all the other teams, but really the best competition was coming from their own team and possible three other teams in the league. So in reality, the only time we played against better competition was those three games and scrimmaging at practice.
My wife asked me once how I would handle it if we were in an area where she would be forced to play for one of the teams in the bottom of the league. It was a good question that I really couldn't answer and make's me wonder how "Regionalization could possibly work? It would bring some balance to leagues and teams, but imagine the kicking and screaming of parents that would be affected. It will never happen because the bottom line of clubs would be affected, but it is an interesting thought. Would have to be grandfathered in from the the U9 level too.

Anonymous said...

sometimes the bottom teams are that because there is a saturation of the product already. all teams have peaks and valleys and when the valleys hit, people leave. Some teams/clubs are directly competing for kids. PA had 3 ECNL teams all within an hour of each other. In NJ, two ECNL teams all within an hour of each other. CT same and MA same. VA was a little more spread out. MD still close to each other. NY only last year was western region included in ECNL. Why would that be allowed to occur? $$$ No other explanation. it was not about the soccer.

Like ODP has 1 team (or two maybe 3) per state depending on the size, GDA should be the same. Maybe the GDA teams are like the Regional teams in ODP.

Forgot to add those leagues as well; ODP. Another block in the pyramid. Other sports are not this complicated. I think it's intentional.

Anonymous said...

sometimes the bottom teams are that because there is a saturation of the product already. all teams have peaks and valleys and when the valleys hit, people leave. Some teams/clubs are directly competing for kids. PA had 3 ECNL teams all within an hour of each other. In NJ, two ECNL teams all within an hour of each other. CT same and MA same. VA was a little more spread out. MD still close to each other. NY only last year was western region included in ECNL. Why would that be allowed to occur? $$$ No other explanation. it was not about the soccer.

Like ODP has 1 team (or two maybe 3) per state depending on the size, GDA should be the same. Maybe the GDA teams are like the Regional teams in ODP.

Forgot to add those leagues as well; ODP. Another block in the pyramid. Other sports are not this complicated. I think it's intentional.

Anonymous said...

apologize. double post.

Anonymous said...

Gda will be "the" top league,new this year so some clubs had advantage by moving their ECNL players over while others are expansion teams, within 2 seasons it will be top league with all the elite players targeting to be in. Elite Players stay the same, league name changes, Ecnl is now gda, ECNL is now made up of last year's npl players, etc. Clubs liked MF who gave up the gda vs making money will fall away just like their boys side did.no reason to pay the if they don't have a team in the top league.

You know it all about making money; youth soccer is a biz now.



Anonymous said...

Trying to get to Disney's schedule and scores is a joke. Does anyone have today's scores?

Anonymous said...

Starts tomorrow
Copa tops in this age.....

Anonymous said...

Disney tourney started yesterday. Here is the schedule link.

http://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=60326

Anonymous said...

11:47 Balance?

You have three models - and aaa bodies think theirs is the best.

USSF = GDA top of the pyramid league (think NT Pools/ODP/id2 - they just have club names). Will be solid in a few years at this age. Our kids were made to make some tough choices between playing HS and switching teams.

USYS = National League, you need to earn your spot in this league by qualifying for it. One bad game and you need to wait another year and we all know one bad game vs a solid team is possible at any time and this opens the door for some teams to qualify that have no business in a top league. But at least they have a chance and if they get pounded and they should, they either work on it or play lower level leagues.

USClub = ECNL/NPL, leagues are closed to it's members all clubs field teams at every age group. Some strong some not so strong, but they have the protection of the league and are guaranteed to participate regardless of how bad they are. Sounds very much like participation awards, which is okay because it guarantees security 11:47. Bottom of the league or not they are in the league.

and just like 1:28 and 6:31 said it's all about SHOW ME THE MONEY. We are just pawns in a very subjective game.

Just my 2 cents

Anonymous said...

Disney Girls Soccer Showcase
Region 1 team results in Girls U17 Showcase

1 BEACH FC 01 RED (36.06)
3 CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (36.45 ) (+0.39)
2 SO CAL RUSH SC 01 (35.83) (+0.32)
2 FC COPA ACADEMY 01 BLACK (35.51)

2 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (36.68)
1 BROOMFIELD BLAST SC 01 PRESTIGE (37.05) (+0.37)

0 VIRGINIA RUSH 01 (35.21)
3 READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (36.41) (+1.20)

1 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL (35.84)
3 BURLINGTON YSC BAYHAWKS G01-OPDL (36.61) (+0.77)

1 SUNRISE STING 2001 BLACK (34.90)
4 PDA SOUTH SPURS 01 (35.57) (+0.67)

5 WATCHUNG HILLS SA NJ ELITE 2001 FLAMES (36.39)
1 DISCOVERIES SC 01 GOLD PREMIER (36.66) (+0.27)

Anonymous said...

Just my 2 Cents
Obviously you are a GDA parent and very protective of it at this time. I wasn't attacking your daughters league, just the thought that quality ladder will change (which it won't). In our culture, winning begat's winning and parents will drive an extra hour to an hour and a half to have their kids play for a winner. How many families lived closer to CFC or FC Bucks and still traveled to PDA or Penn Fusion for ECNL? You think those parents that are coming out of the Harrisburg, York and Lancaster and playing for Penn Fusion's DA, are suddenly going to change their minds and play for PAC (especially with their success)? I know you believe it will balance out and teams at the bottom will be more competitive, but it won't. It will not because of our need to be on a winner and by that time, US Soccer will introduce another set of letters in two years, and everyone will flock to that. Fortunately for our girls it won't matter as they will be onto the next level.
The only way there would ever be balance would be if US Soccer introduce some form of regionalazation where you had to play for a club in you designated region (sort of like hockey uses).
You are correct about it always being about money, because it is. I originally was not a fan of the ECNL, but I do think they had the right concept at least in how to promote their players. But there again parents with kids playing in the ECNL told me that their league would balance out in a few years, maybe with some of the clubs removed from it, it will. Let's see what US Soccer does again in two years.

Anonymous said...

1:30 I think us soccer is fine with it's new toy. no add'l league will be introduced. DA introduced because something happened between USSF and ECNL; otherwise, they were perfectly happy supporting it as the next best thing. As I noted previously, USSF needs to consolidate &/or eliminate to make better. with they? probably not. every little kid that kicks a ball is another $ for USSF.

Anonymous said...

The showcase bracket games at Disney are garnering 30 to 40 college coaches per game yesterday. If that's the number their getting for teams not affiliated with ECNL or the DA, can you imagine what the DA showcase in Tampa will look like? They'll need a bigger coaches box. I was told that the team from Canada is one of the better ones, fast, skilled and extremely physical (sounds like an ECNL team), which might explain why coaches want to see them play.

Anonymous said...

Those are good numbers. The only numbers my kid cares about is of the 8 emails she sent how many of those 8 show up.

Verbals per Region 1 NL team going into 2017-18 season

3 = BC United 01 (NY-W)
2 = 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)
2 = Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)
1 = Premier Navy 2001 (MD)
0 = FC Frederick 01 (MD)
0 = NJ Stallion Freedom (NJ)

Anonymous said...

That's not accurate re: NJ Stallions

Anonymous said...

According to their team page it's accurate. The u18 team has 9 committed. maybe they should do a better job updating their team page.

http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2017-18-National-League/Team/46109/NJStallionFreedomNJ/

Anonymous said...

maybe

Anonymous said...

we are talking about this blog age group - u17/01 not 00. many teams have their 00's U18/U19's committed already.

Anonymous said...

That's why I said zero for this age group, but 5:06 seems to think different. I backed up my post with a link, and also gave you some U18 stats

3 = BC United 01 (NY-W)
2 = 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)
2 = Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)
1 = Premier Navy 2001 (MD)
0 = FC Frederick 01 (MD)
0 = NJ Stallion Freedom (NJ)
0 = Arlington 01 Red (VA)

Regional League 2018-19 National League qualifying spots

** FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
** North Shore United 01 Blue (WI)
2018 MRL Premier I Spring Champion
2018 MRL Premier I Spring 2nd Place

** Charlotte SA North Cabarrus Predator (NC)
** Lonestar 01G Red (TX)
2017-18 SRPL West First Place
2017-18 SRPL Representative

2017-18 FWRL Northwest Division Champion
2017-18 FWRL Desert Division Champion
2017-18 FWRL CRL-North Champion
2017-18 FWRL CRL-South Champion

2018 ERL Elite Division Playoff Champion
2018 ERL Elite Division Playoff Runner-up
2018 ERL Elite Division Playoff 3rd Place
2018 ERL Elite Division Playoff 4th Place

U18 Region 1 Committed counts:

9 = New Jersey Stallions Academy-Stampede (NJ)
5 = Beadling 2000 Elite (PA-W)
4 = Arlington SA 2000 Red (VA)
3 = LMSC Storm (PA-E)
3 = Syracuse Development Academy (NY-W)
1 = Century V Gold (PA-W)
0 = HBC Impact 00 (NY-E)
0 = Princeton SA (NJ) - no link

Anonymous said...

i'm with ya. U18/00 is a different blog i think. t/y for the U17/01 info.

Anonymous said...

The initial post said NO Freedom players have committed. I said that as incorrect - and then agreed that MAYBE they didnt update their page

I'd guess more than 9 '18s may be committed from Stallions as well - just not reported on their page. But still plenty of time for the noncommits

Anonymous said...

5:56 Do you think it's wrong for a team to mislead college coaches?

If they have players committed and don't report them? or does it no matter?

Why would teams make college coaches waste their time watching players that already committed? I think it's wrong, but those are my 2 cents.

Region 1 NL commits
2 = U16
8 = U17
25 = U18

Anonymous said...

do you think that happens? would give the club a bad rep for sure.
maybe as someone said, the teams just don't update the NL website but have the accurate information in a handout or something for the various games.

Anonymous said...

9:33 not sure - if it does it's just sloppy and causes players to be scheduled to be looked at that are already spoken for and takes away from others.

I will switch over to some rankings now (sorry).


Region 1 Top non GDA/ECNL teams
(+/- pts after NEWSS/Disney events going into CASL)

37.80 (-0.03) SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA)
37.60(+0.13) SUSA FC NPL (NYE)
37.14 (+0.14) SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)
37.07 (+0.09) GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW)
37.06(+0.10) PDA SOUTH NPL (NJ)
36.93 (+0.07) FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV)
36.89 (+0.22) PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)
36.62 (+0.12) UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)
36.56 (+0.10) PRINCETON SA WILDCATS (NJ)
36.55 (+0.15) READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE)
36.54 (+0.07) VIRGINIA LEGACY SC CCL ELITE (VA)
36.50 (+0.14) SUSA FC ELITE (NYE)
36.50 (+0.09) FC FREDERICK (MD)
36.50 (+0.13) NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES (NJ)
36.38 (+0.09) LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE)
36.34 (+0.05) ROCHESTER FC (NYW)
36.33 (+0.09) NEW JERSEY WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)
36.32 (+0.25) FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)
36.23 (+0.19) BEACH FC VA RED (VA)
36.20 (+0.13) ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)

New teams above 36.00
36.08 (+/- n/a) SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE (NJ)
36.05 (+/- n/a) NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM NPL (NJ)

No longer above 36.00
35.19 (-1.06) PDA NORTH NPL (NJ)

ECNL teams playing at CASL

39.17 Mclean Ecnl
37.68 CRUSA FC Buck ECNL 01
37.41 Bethesda Union 01 ECNL
37.13 Richmond United Ecnl 01
36.95 World Class FC Ecnl 01
36.88 FC Boston Scorpions Ecnl 01
36.72 Continental FC 01 ECNL
36.58 MD United FC 01G ECNL
36.34 Tampa Bay United Rowdies 01G ECNL
36.28 NCFC 01 ECNL
35.66 Carolina Rapids 01 ECNL
35.51 CO Storm 01 ECNL
34.80 NC Fusion 01 ECNL

Anonymous said...

Coaches are not looking at club websites to see who is not committed. They go watch games based on requests from the players, coach or club. At the games the coaches should be provided with some sort of profile sheet which would have info on each player including their committed status. In the end no ones time is wasted.

Anonymous said...

9:12 1st it's not a club website - it was the league website - the info they provide the coaches in attendance (the profile sheet you speak of). Do you think the coaches just show up or do you think they plan out their schedule to make sure they see the max? So player A is not listed as a commit - the coaches come watch her play 4 games because they like what they see they offer and find out she has a verbal already - is that right? or could they have spent time watching other players? Wasted time or not in my example?

Some more YSrankings for you guys.

Girls Development Academy
38.86 FC Fury NY U-16/17
38.82 Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17
38.34 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17
38.26 New York City FC U-16/17
38.25 Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17
37.81 FC Virginia U-16/17 (37.81)
37.14 Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17
36.88 Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17
35.86 PA Classics U-16/17
35.30 FC Stars U-16/17
35.13 Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
34.83 Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17
34.66 Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17
34.56 Empire United U-16/17
34.10 Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17
33.82 Long Island SC U-16/17

ECNL
39.57 FC Stars ECNL U17
39.17 McLean YSA ECNL U17
38.10 PDA ECNL U17
37.68 FC Bucks ECNL U17
37.57 Connecticut FC ECNL U17
37.41 Bethesda SC ECNL U17
37.18 Match Fit Academy U17
37.13 Richmond United ECNL U17
37.01 FSA ECNL U17
36.95 World Class ECNL U17
36.92 Albertson Fury ECNL U17
36.88 FC Boston ECNL U17
36.72 Continental FC U17
36.58 Maryland United ECNL U17
36.40 BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17
35.95 East Meadow SC ECNL U17
35.58 Pittsburgh Riverhounds ECNL U17
34.95 WNY Flash ECNL U17

Anonymous said...

don't most leagues have their own recruiting websites as well (similar to the NL site)? not every kid participates. it's not mandatory and sometimes costs an add'l fee. no free lunches in soccer. most coaches are watching someone because they have requested them to watch. if they see someone else, they may inquire about the player's status. i highly doubt they watch 4 games of a player without finding out more info.

Anonymous said...

Okay you win. NL site has no fee. The team updates player info. CaptainU, Gotsoccer and sincsports are free also you can pay to upgrade of course. But, I think you get my point. You see the options for your kid to select as do I in all these tools.

I can see a college coach building a database of players per class. I can see them trying to fit as many as possible before an event. Identify who is playing and try to schedule them in. Maybe I'm over simplifying things.

Just doesn't seem fair, as I said you win. I'm dropping this.

Anonymous said...

this wasn't a win or loose discussion and i'm not the only poster. so others obviously interested. it's an interesting concept, but i would think that most coaches know how to do their job as far as recruiting better then we could speculate. does anyone know otherwise?
is this how kids get enticed to decommit?

Anonymous said...

chiming in. are recruiting sites like those listed in an above post even worth it?

Anonymous said...

Worth it or not? The tournament uses them for their handbooks, so yes free version is worth it.

I know coaches can do their jobs. But think about it, how many emails are they getting? How many voice mails are they getting? Prior to an event I guess they use the tournament tool which ever to identify which of their kids will be there and at what time/field then come up with a plan to see as many as they can.

My point is player A goes to ID camp, and does well or player A invites coach and does well either way the coach liked what he/she saw. They move up in their class ranking. Player A gets a offer from another school that they like and accept verbally. If these tournament sites are not updated properly - don't they waste a school's time by not only having them come watch but by also having them ranked higher than other players they can actually recruit. As I said I just think it's unfair.

Anonymous said...

Coaches don't use league websites to decide who to go see play. Why would I waste time to go see a player on a team that I know nothing about who has not expressed any interest in the school. What is a wast of time are all these lists of teams.

Anonymous said...

So you don't use their tools that allow you to select players from your database to see a list of times and fields so you can plan your scouting?
You would rather rely on emails from players with dates and times. Yup your way is so much better.

PS. These lists of teams are for the fans that support their kids and like to have a little fun.

Anonymous said...

Isn't there a general NCAA commitments list? Many other sports have one so coaches don't waste his/her time. There used to be a Google one. Not sure if it's still being used.

Anonymous said...

That would be way cool 3:12.

I know that google site - hasn't been updated since January.

Anonymous said...

shame. it's a famous site. read about it in a recruiting tips book. specifically noted it as a go to site used by players and coaches.

Anonymous said...

https://bsbproduction.s3.amazonaws.com/portals/337/docs/pda-docs/2015-pda%20fields.pdf

So, ECNL composite event this weekend. PDA fields in FL it seems. May showcase event and now this. we are hamsters on the money wheel.

Anonymous said...

Why is this ECNL event being scheduled the same time as CASL? Is it at least near the College Cup in FL. How many coaches are attending this over CASL? Mind blowing how these tourneys/showcases don't work together and maximize not only the coaches attending but the players competing.

Anonymous said...

sorry. scheduled for early January not early December.

Anonymous said...

it's early January not early December.

Anonymous said...

isn't this the dead period though?

Anonymous said...

Dead period ends Jan 5


https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/web/News/Articles/June_2017/NCAA_establishes_recruiting_dead_period_in_Division_I_women_s_soccer.aspx

Anonymous said...

If a player is committed then the schools that were interested - and had communication - are notified - whether the name be ob a list or not.

Saying that college coaches are "wasting their time" in going to see a committed player is nonsense. You hear all the time how a player was found for a program by accident - by watching a game a coach was invited to by another player. No waste of time at these events. This is why coaches will stay an entire game after seeing what they need to see in THEIR recruit - they want to see some "surprise" talent as well.

HAVE A SAFE TRIP TO CASL, ALL

GO, NEW JERSEY! GO, NEW YORK EAST!

Anonymous said...

YUP! Go go go
And stay down there :)

Anonymous said...

10:42 By who? the athlete? There is no magical button that calls or sends emails when a player says I DO to all the other coaches? Actually there is minus sending the emails.

I agree about your comment about my comment of wasting their time in your scenario, 100%.

But let's say a coach has 10 players to see but because of field locations and times can only see 6 that they have identified. Of these 6 players 3 of them have verbals and no one was notified. So now this coach just picked 3 players to watch that don't want his/her school instead of 3 that still might - assuming they don't sign commit somewhere else. This is fair? how is it fair? All it takes is clicking on I made a commitment then select your school or the club coach marking that down when they register their roster with an event.


USYS NL scores

1 BC United 01 (NY-W - 3 Committed)
1 CDA Premier 01 (OH-S - 4 Committed)

0 FC Frederick 01 (MD - 0 Committed)
4 TFA Elite 01 (OH-S - 5 Committed)

1 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E - 2 Committed)
2 Premier Navy 2001 (MD - 4 Committed)

0 Arlington 2001 Red (VA - 0 Committed)
2 Century V 01 Gold (PA-W - 2 Committed)

0 NJ Stallion Freedom (NJ - 0 Committed)
0 Lonestar 01 TCL Composite (TX-S - 0 Committed)





Anonymous said...

Committed list you are looking at is wrong

Anonymous said...

Don't you know the guy who posts these stupid lists is never wrong.

Anonymous said...

hahaha must be nice to get lost in cybersphere where you reign supreme or at least think so. :)

Anonymous said...

New Jersey U17 (2001) at CASL

1st place

SJEB Rush Academy
Match Fit NE NPL
Cedar Stars - Monmouth NPL
Cedar Stars - Bergen NPL (Crush)
STA NPL
FC Berna Legacy

Second place

PDA Madrid
NJ Elite Flames
PDA South Spurs
FC Copa Black
PDA Shore Fusion

4th place

Wildcats Fury
PDA Hornets


Good show, girls

Anonymous said...

Still stuck on the result side of youth soccer...

Anonymous said...

Casl had ecnl teams playing which makes these results more interesting. The 3rd and 4th place finishes are bad though.

Anonymous said...

9:06 thanks.
9:06 4th out of 8?

9:19 like you don't keep score at your kid's game or maybe you don't even go.

Anonymous said...

I agree. 9:19's comment is sanctimonious holier-than-thou nonsense. These girls are competing to win and for many these are the last competitive sports years they will play in their life. Results do matter. That's why there is a score for each game. Most are not 'developing' for a future pro career.

Anonymous said...

17UG Standings Black
1. Premier Navy 2001 (MD) 12 points (College Committed 4)
2. 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E) 9 points (College Committed 2)

17UG Standings Blue
1. Century V 01 Gold (PA-W) 12 points (College Committed 2)
6. Arlington 2001 Red (VA) 6 points (College Committed 0)

17UG Standings Red
1. BC United 01 (NY-W) 10 points (College Committed 3)

17UG Standings White
5. NJ Stallion Freedom (NJ) 5points (College Committed 0)
6. FC Frederick 01 (MD) 4 points (College Committed 0)

Anonymous said...

I think some of you may reading these posts defensively.
I read 9:19 differently and assuming the recruiting process is more important than the scores.
I like seeing the true reports of college coaches attending games and the recruiting success of players following the showcases..

Anonymous said...

11:32 of course it's more important. Why do you think we are all on these boards posting? It's called having a little fun with no harm. There are many things that go into results but at the end of the day it's black and white you either won or you didn't. Since we can't talk about players recruiting is a little weird to talk about that's why i just post the stats from the website. So we can see how a team improves their YSR score and how many players get added to their commitment list. All fro a web site black and white in regards to what''s been published. So I guess that makes me right all the time since none of it is my opinion.

37.87 SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) [50 games]
37.65 SUSA FC NPL (NYE) [32 games]
37.19 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) [51 games]
37.11 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW) [39 games - 3 committed]
37.06 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH (NJ) [16 games]

36.99 FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV) [21 games]
36.93 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD) [42 games - 4 committed]
36.66 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) [44 games - 2 committed]
36.62 PRINCETON SA WILDCATS (NJ) [35 games]
36.61 VIRGINIA LEGACY SC CCL ELITE (VA) [18 games]

36.60 READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE) [44 games]
36.56 FC FREDERICK (MD) [37 games - 0 committed]
36.55 NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES (NJ) [48 games]
36.53 SUSA FC ELITE (NYE) [47 games]
36.42 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) [25 games]

36.41 ROCHESTER FC (NYW) [26 games]
36.38 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) [22 games]
36.38 NEW JERSEY WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) [41 games]
36.27 BEACH FC VA RED (VA) [40 games]
36.25 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) [41 games - 0 committed]

36.08 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM NPL (NJ) [42 games - 0 committed]
36.05 NORTH UNION UNITED SC WAVE (PAE) [24 games]
36.04 BETHESDA SC STORM (MD) [47 games]
36.04 SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE (NJ) [37 games]

Anonymous said...

Region 1 ECNL list

39.62 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) [37 games - no commitments posted]
39.22 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) [58 games - no commitments posted]
38.15 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) [31 games - no commitments posted]
37.73 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SA PA FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE) [27 games - 1 commitment (2019)]
37.63 CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) [35 games - no commitments posted]
37.47 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION (MD) [39 games - no commitments posted]
37.23 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ) [35 games - no commitments posted]
37.19 RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL (VA) [47 games - no commitments posted]
37.06 FSA FC ECNL (CT) [32 games - no commitments posted]
37.00 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) [31 games - no commitments posted]
36.98 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE) [51 games - 3 committed (2020/2019)]
36.94 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA) [31 games - no commitments posted]
36.77 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE) [33 games - 5 committed]
36.62 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) [37 games - no commitments posted]
36.45 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY 0 (VA) [50 games - no commitments posted]
36.00 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL DASH (NYE) [46 games - no commitments posted]

Anonymous said...

lol

Anonymous said...

4th out of 4 - not 8

Sorry - was that misleading?

They play 3 games, so a 4-team division

Anonymous said...

10:10

4th out of 4, not out of 8 - sorry if that was misleading

Anonymous said...

1:19 I thought they combined both when they determine placement, reason for my question.

for the guy that like recruitment any one familiar with topdrawer go for it.

2020/2019 commitments from soccerwire
10 PDA
7 FC Stars of Mass
7 Penn Fusion SA
6 Bethesda SC
5 FC Boston Scorpions
4 FC Virginia
4 Richmond United
4 World Class FC
3 Connecticut FC
3 Match Fit Academy FC
2 Boston Breakers Academy
2 Manhattan SC
2 McLean Youth Soccer
2 Princeton SA
2 South Shore Select
2 Washington Spirit - Baltimore Armour
1 1776 United FC
1 Beadling SC
1 East Meadow SC
1 FC Bucks
2 FC Fury
1 FC Pennsylvania
1 Maryland United FC
1 NJ Stallions
1 NJ Wildcats
1 NY Surf SC
1 Rochester Rhinos
1 SUSA FC

2020/2019 commitments from USYS NL
4 Premier SC
3 BC United
3 Beadling Elite
3 Princeton SA
2 1776 United FC
2 Century V 01
1 Lower Merrion SC
1 Syracuse Development Academy
1 New Jersey Stallions Academy

Anonymous said...

97 region 1 players reported as committed

34 GDA
33 NON-GDA/ECNL
30 ECNL

Anonymous said...

TopDrawer wasn't very hard to put together - much bigger list.
Going off of their list 189 2020/2019 region1 players are committed.
Below is your club breakdown by list

Anonymous said...

81 ECNL
63 GDA
45 NON-ECNL

15 Bethesda SC
14 FC Stars of Mass
14 PDA
11 Connecticut FC
11 Penn Fusion
8 Match Fit Academy FC
7 FC Boston Scorpions
6 Boston Breakers Academy
6 Continental FC DELCO
6 Richmond United
5 FC Virginia
5 Maryland United FC
5 McLean Youth Soccer
5 WNY Flash
4 FC Fury NY
4 New Jersey Wildcats
4 Premier SC (MD)
4 Washington Spirit Academy MD
4 World Class FC
3 Albertson SC
3 East Meadow SC
3 Greater Binghamton United FC
3 NY Surf Soccer Club
3 South Jersey Elite Barons SA
2 Century United FC
2 Manhattan SC
2 New Jersey Stallions Academy
2 Pittsburgh Riverhounds
2 Princeton SA
2 Rochester FC
2 South Shore Select SC
2 Washington Spirit Academy VA
1 1776 FC
1 Braddock Road YC
1 Cedar Stars Academy
1 FC Pennsylvania
1 HMMS Eagle FC
1 Loudoun Soccer Club
1 Lower Merion SC
1 Massapequa SC
1 Medford Strikers SC
1 NEFC-Breakers
1 New York SC
1 Oakwood SC
1 PA Classics
1 Pipeline Soccer Club
1 Quickstrike FC
1 Rochester Rhinos
1 SUSA FC Academy
1 Syracuse Development Academy
1 Virginia Legacy
1 West-Mont United SA

Anonymous said...

Still way off

Anonymous said...

will never get full info. not everyone reports to TDS or Soccerwire. and some clubs don't report either. a general database would be nice. google site guy or gal; come back. you were fantastic.

Anonymous said...

5:46 prove it.

Anonymous said...

Regarding results at CASL, I can look at this from two perspectives. First, my daughter's team won their group which wasn't easy and was very important to them. So I'm very proud of them because winning is good!

And second, they had coaches from over 100 schools see them play over the weekend.

So I'd say they were winners in all regards.

Anonymous said...

Regarding results at CASL, I can look at this from two perspectives. First, my daughter's team won their group which wasn't easy and was very important to them. So I'm very proud of them because winning is good!

And second, they had coaches from over 100 schools see them play over the weekend.

So I'd say they were winners in all regards.

Anonymous said...

Regarding results at CASL, I can look at this from a number of perspectives.

First, my daughter's team won their group which wasn't easy and was very important to them. So I'm very proud of them because winning is good!

Second, they had coaches from over 100 schools see them play over the weekend so the opportunities to impress were plentiful.

Third, we all enjoyed a great team dinner on Friday night and all of the girls (and parents too) seem to truly like each other.

So I'd say they were winners in all regards.

Anonymous said...

Regarding results at CASL, I can look at this from a number of perspectives.

First, my daughter's team won their group which wasn't easy and was very important to them. So I'm very proud of them because winning is good!

Second, they had coaches from over 100 schools see them play over the weekend so the opportunities to impress were plentiful.

Third, we all enjoyed a great team dinner on Friday night and all of the girls (and parents too) seem to truly like each other.

So I'd say they were winners in all regards.

Anonymous said...

Regarding results at CASL, I can look at this from a number of perspectives.

First, my daughter's team won their group which wasn't easy and was very important to them. So I'm very proud of them because winning is good!

Second, they had coaches from over 100 schools see them play over the weekend so the opportunities to impress were plentiful.

Third, we all enjoyed a great team dinner on Friday night and all of the girls (and parents too) seem to truly like each other.

So I'd say they were winners in all regards.

Anonymous said...

Can you post again? I didn't understand the first 12 times :)

Anonymous said...

9:35 Agreed winning is important for the girls and many opportunities to show well is also very important. Did all the players on the roster get a minimum of 40 minutes on the field? If yes, you are in a great place from the sounds of it ECNL club or NOT.

Under 17 Girls Elite Gold Division
1. MCLEAN ECNL 9pts
2. NORTH SHORE UNITED SC 7pts
3. SUSA FC NPL 4pts
4. WORLD CLASS ECNL 4pts
5. FC BOSTON ECNL 3pts
6. RICHMOND UNITED ECNL 3pts
7. CO STORM ECNL 3pts
8. SPORTING JB MARINE 1pt

Under 17 Girls Elite White Division
1. SJEB RUSH 9pts
2. BETHESDA ECNL 6pts
3. MARYLAND UNITED ECNL 6pts
4. FC BUCKS ECNL 6pts
5. SOUTH SHORE SELECT 6pts
6. TAMPA BAY UNITED ECNL 3pts
7. CAROLINA RAPIDS ECNL 0pts
8. DISCOVERIES SC 0pts

Under 17 Girls Elite Red Division
1. NCFC ECNL 7pts
2. PDA SOUTH 6pts
3. MATCH FIT NPL 5pts
4. SALTFLEET STONEY CREEK SC 4pts
5. NC FUSION 02 ECNL 4pts
6. FURY SC ATHLETICA 4pts
7. CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 3pts
8. FLORIDA KRAZE KRUSH BLACK 0pts

Under 17 Girls Elite Navy Division
1. READING RAGE SC 9pts
2. WOOLWICH YOUTH SC 7pts
3. CSA IMPACT UNITED MRL BLACK 6pts
4. LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK 4pts
5. CHARLOTTE SOCCER ACADEMY NORTH 3pts
6. SUSA FC ELITE 3pts
7. NCFC ELITE 2pts
8. NEW JERSEY WILDCATS 0pts

Under 17 Girls Elite Silver Division
1. FC STARS OF MASS NPL 9pts
2. GPS MASS NPL 7pts
3. UNITED FC MICHIGAN 6pts
4. NJ ELITE 6pts
5. BEACH FC (VA) 4pts
6 HAMILTON UNITED ELITE SC 1pt
7. FCX SOCCER CLUB 1pt
8. BEADLING SC 0pts

Anonymous said...

League recaps going into the indoor season for most.

Mid-Atlantic ECNL (approx 9 games to play)
2.82 (11) Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U17
2.50 (10) McLean YSA ECNL U17
1.64 (11) Richmond United ECNL U17
1.60 (10) BRYC Elite Academy ECNL U17
1.20 (10) Carolina Rapids ECNL U17
0.78 (9) NCFC Youth ECNL U17
0.67 (9) NC Fusion ECNL U17
0.30 (10) South Carolina United ECNL U17

Ohio Valley ECNL (approx 17 games to play)
3.00 (3) Ohio Elite SA ECNL U17
2.33 (3) Ohio Premier ECNL U17
2.00 (2) Tennessee SC ECNL U17
1.00 (3) FC Pride ECNL U17
1.00 (3) Pittsburgh Riverhounds ECNL U17
1.00 (3) Internationals SC ECNL U17
1.00 (3) WNY Flash ECNL U17
0.00 (2) FC Alliance ECNL U17

2017-18 National League 17U Girls (3 games to play)
Black
12 Premier Navy 2001 (MD)
9 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)
9 Rebels 2001 Elite (CA-S)
6 FC Florida 2001 Elite Blue Predators (FL)
6 Santa Clara Sporting 01 Green (CA-N)
3 National Union Girls 01 Black (MI)
1 Tennessee Soccer Club 2001 Showcase (TN)
1 EGA 01 Maroon (NE)
Blue
12 Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)
9 FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
7 Arizona Arsenal Teal (AZ)
7 Sting East Dunstan (TX-N)
4 Fullerton Rangers 01 White (CA-S)
3 Arlington 2001 Red (VA)
3 Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI)
0 UFA 01 Premier (GA)
Red
10 BC United 01 (NY-W)
9 Nationals Union 01 Red (MI)
7 CDA Premier 01 (OH-S)
7 PacNW 01 Maroon (WA)
4 Cleveland FC 01 Royal (OH-N)
4 CSA Charlotte Predator 01 (NC)
4 Fever United 01 Guerra (TX-N)
0 Beach FC 01 (CA-S)
White
10 TFA Elite 01 (OH-S)
9 Legends FC 01 Academy II (CA-S)
8 Lonestar 01 TCL Composite (TX-S)
5 Celtic FC Premier SA (UT)
5 NJ Stallion Freedom (NJ)
4 FC Frederick 01 (MD)
1 01 WHYFC White (NC)
1 Galaxy 2001 Blue (IL)

Anonymous said...

9:35 Excellent post regarding players being on the field for no less than 40 minutes per game. If your daughter is not on for at least 40 minutes, your coach is either caring too much about the score or your daughter is not working hard enough on her own (if a player is lazy, why should the coach be blamed?).
My daughter has received a lot of great responses from Disney/Casl tourneys, my question to all of you is do you ever get irritated by the 50% that include the ID camp bullshit? I do realize that so many of these are generic and sent out to almost every girl at the tourneys, but are there really parents that still fall prey to these and think these are actual solo invites? So tired of seeing the Sister Mary Marcus of Enchantment loved my daughters style of play and would love to see her again at their camp for two hours at the cost of $110.00 (free tee shirt of course).

Anonymous said...

So when your daughter fills out recruiting questionnaires, she will automatically receive camp invites, part of the deal.
My older daughter still gets them after graduating HS and in her first year of college.
The other side could be your daughter hears nothing.
This is why it's important to pick schools your daughter has serious interest in so she can start sifting through the invites and you invest where you choose.
She actually attends a school where college coach observed her without her initial contact and then she researched on her own afterwards...
May I suggest an actual visit to the college in the days leading up to the ID clinic? This has worked for us...you meet the coach before the clinic and he/she recognizes your daughter when she's there.

Anonymous said...

The way I see the ID camp process is ...well - they have to have enough players to have a camp. And its never really a waste of cash, since you get the workout in. So I dont mind if its shenanigans. If you are at all interested in the school - and the player hasnt been overworked - go have a day. Cant hurt.

Anonymous said...

11:27 I don't like the "your daughter is not working hard enough on her own (if a player is lazy, why should the coach be blamed?)" part of your comment.

It's a SHOWCASE - if she is lazy it will show and has no reflection on the other players. It will hurt her chances -but she should not be denied the opportunity during a showcase. That's what they are for. The kids will play to win regardlessof who's on the field.

I agree with 10:04 - if it's a school your kid is interested in who cares. They build their database and send out blasts to get people interested in their program to show up becasue sometimes the kid playing less with her club has an opportuinty with a level playing field to impress the right people.

Anonymous said...

11:27 So let me get this straight. You have players on a team busting their ass during their training sessions and working hard on their own. Then you have a player or two that for whatever reason, just are not into putting in the work and are just happy to be one the team. Yet your saying that it would be unfair for that player to not get as much time as the others?Your talking about players and parents that know these are college showcases and know now is the time to put the work in and shine your best. Should the coach hand out a participation trophy after the game also?
PF lost 3-2 in an extremely challenging game today and had players coming off the bench with only 20 minutes left. Should the coach have simply pulled players earlier and said "I'm not rewarding you girls for the work you put in or the skill you have shown"? Whatever happened to the idea of out working the player in front of you and earning your minutes?
10:04 I have kids in college playing soccer, so I get the camp thing. I have attended many of these "camps" and many are not a good bang for the buck, even as a workout. Both my kids are playing at schools where they never attended a single camp. I was talking about parents that haven't been through it yet and not realizing it's money easily thrown away. 3:23 said it best "make sure it's a school you kid is interested in".

Anonymous said...

Players coming off the bench are often difference makers iin a game that is running stagnant.
PF yesterday is a good example.

Anonymous said...

9:33 - this is how I see it.

"Yet your saying that it would be unfair for that player to not get as much time as the others?"

Girls play at different speeds and have different skill levels. Because a player is not as fast or not as technical doesn't make her lazy. Just because a girl is busting her ass doesn't make her better.

"Should the coach hand out a participation trophy after the game also?"

No The coach shouldn't offer a roster spot to these players - I'm sure they can find better use of their money than chasing a dream they don't have a shot at since the coach doesn't believe in them. These are HS kids that want to play college soccer not just practice players. The teams traveling to these tournaments add an additional cost over $1k per family per event give or take a few bucks and they all want to play college soccer. These SHOWCASE tournaments mean nothing in the standings or in future placement at
other tournaments. It's for the schools to find players for their programs since these games are glorified scrimmages for the coaches to see players play in their comfort zone (their club team) they ALL should play a minimum of half the game.

"Should the coach have simply pulled players earlier and said "I'm not rewarding you girls for the work you put in or the skill you
have shown"?"

No the coach should be smart enough and good enough to work all is players in and continue growing them as individuals and as a team, not creating a class system. But at the end of the day that's how they get paid. Less players on the roster equals less money in their pocket and the clubs pocket.

"Whatever happened to the idea of out working the player in front of you and earning your minutes?"

I'm saying since the coach has a TRYOUT for a College placement team (these teams that travel to Disney, CASL and others) and since they gave a roster spot to these players IT's ON THEM to show them at these showcase events.
The parents are fronting the same amount of money. These teams play in Leagues like ECNL/NL/NPL/ERL and state cups where you reward them for earning their minutes. Those are leagues that winning is important so if a player is not at the same level they play a different role.

Whatever.

Anonymous said...

10:51 I found your post pretty intresting and reasonable
You didn't need to end it with "whatever" though, took away from it:)

Anonymous said...

Good luck to my stepsister's cousin's daughter at the showcase this weekend!

Anonymous said...

Is this DA showcase like their league games only 3 subs or can everybody play? If limited subs then not really a showcase in my opinion.

2017 Development Academy Winter Showcase Schedule

Region 1 GDA teams:

December 7th = W 1, T 2, L 11, GF 12, GA 45, GD -33
December 8th = W 3, T 2, L 4, GF 9, GA 15, GD -6


4 Eclipse Select Soccer Club U-16/17
0 PA Classics U-16/17

0 Empire United U-16/17
4 SC del Sol U-16/17

2 FC Dallas U-16/17
1 Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17

0 FC Stars U-16/17
4 West Coast Futbol Club U-16/17

3 LAFC Slammers U-16/17
2 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17

7 La Roca Futbol Club U-16/17
1 Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17

2 Orlando Pride U-16/17
0 Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17

2 PSV Union Football Club U-16/17
5 Long Island SC U-16/17

3 Reign Academy U-16/17
1 Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17

3 United Soccer Alliance U-16/17
0 New York City FC U-16/17

3 Beach Futbol Club U-16/17
0 FC Virginia U-16/17

0 FC Fury NY U-16/17
6 Lonestar SC Academy U-16/17

2 Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17
2 Lamorinda Soccer Club U-16/17

0 Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
0 Sockers FC U-16/17

0 Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17
5 LA Galaxy U-16/17 Game Report

0 Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17
2 Legends FC U-16/17 Game Report

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2 Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17
1 Portland Thorns FC U-16/17

2 Dallas Texans U-16/17
0 Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17

1 FC Virginia U-16/17
1 Lonestar SC Academy U-16/17

1 Legends FC U-16/17
1 FC Fury NY U-16/17

6 Michigan Hawks U-16/17
0 FC Stars U-16/17

0 Nationals U-16/17
2 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17

0 Real So Cal U-16/17
3 Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17

0 Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17
3 Los Angeles Premier Futbol Club U-16/17

0 Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
1 Placer United SC U-16/17

Anonymous said...

Is this DA showcase like their league games only 3 subs or can everybody play? If limited subs then not really a showcase in my opinion.

2017 Development Academy Winter Showcase Schedule

Region 1 GDA teams:

December 7th = W 1, T 2, L 11, GF 12, GA 45, GD -33
December 8th = W 3, T 2, L 4, GF 9, GA 15, GD -6


4 Eclipse Select Soccer Club U-16/17
0 PA Classics U-16/17

0 Empire United U-16/17
4 SC del Sol U-16/17

2 FC Dallas U-16/17
1 Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17

0 FC Stars U-16/17
4 West Coast Futbol Club U-16/17

3 LAFC Slammers U-16/17
2 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17

7 La Roca Futbol Club U-16/17
1 Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17

2 Orlando Pride U-16/17
0 Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth U-16/17

2 PSV Union Football Club U-16/17
5 Long Island SC U-16/17

3 Reign Academy U-16/17
1 Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17

3 United Soccer Alliance U-16/17
0 New York City FC U-16/17

3 Beach Futbol Club U-16/17
0 FC Virginia U-16/17

0 FC Fury NY U-16/17
6 Lonestar SC Academy U-16/17

2 Oakwood Soccer Club U-16/17
2 Lamorinda Soccer Club U-16/17

0 Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
0 Sockers FC U-16/17

0 Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17
5 LA Galaxy U-16/17 Game Report

0 Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia U-16/17
2 Legends FC U-16/17 Game Report

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2 Boston Breakers Academy U-16/17
1 Portland Thorns FC U-16/17

2 Dallas Texans U-16/17
0 Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour U-16/17

1 FC Virginia U-16/17
1 Lonestar SC Academy U-16/17

1 Legends FC U-16/17
1 FC Fury NY U-16/17

6 Michigan Hawks U-16/17
0 FC Stars U-16/17

0 Nationals U-16/17
2 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy U-16/17

0 Real So Cal U-16/17
3 Sky Blue - PDA U-16/17

0 Sky Blue - NYSC U-16/17
3 Los Angeles Premier Futbol Club U-16/17

0 Virginia Development Academy U-16/17
1 Placer United SC U-16/17

Anonymous said...

NO sir. Only 3 subs can be used per game in DA competition.

Anonymous said...

Interesting that PF still has 3 players that have not played one minute after two games played. Got to admire that type of commitment being shown by those players and families, going down to Florida and at least have their daughters' on the sidelines. Anytime a team carries 24 players, someone will be sitting and some not even rostered, at least these families understand the process.
10:51 So if a player is struggling and getting beat over and over again, watching her lose even more confidence in herself is a good thing? Keeping her in the game where that is happening is really impressing those coach's sitting on the sidelines.
Of course the scores don't matter in Showcase games, but showing off your players talents does. Teams find the weak link that make their girls look good, they use it and will keep doing so until there's an adjustment (usually a change in personnel). If the ball is constantly being lost on one side of the field, how are the players on the other side showcasing any of their skills? College coaches don't stay for the whole games, you have a short window to catch their attention. Was the PF coach wrong not to bring in one of those three players on Friday or Saturday? That's a decision the coach made based on what he's seen so far. Should we criticize him for it? How do we know what conversations he may have had with the parents or player. So far PF has ten 01 commits, so they are doing something right.

Anonymous said...

No 10:29, what will impress the coaches is how she adjusts her game. Getting yanked will hurt confidence more than not giving an opportunity by her coach to figure it out in front of coaches she may have invited to watch her play.

They are showing their skill by being in the right place and having a positive attitude when things are not going right and maybe even trying to pick up the player that is having a tough time. She wouldn't be on the team if she wasn't any good, wood she? Agreed coaches usually stay at least a half or leave earlier if they saw what they needed or got tired of waiting for a player to get into a game. I've also seen coaches stay the entire game.

PF wrong or not it cost those families some serious money, but it wasn't the coaches money so why should he/she care if players sit and watch the coaches they invited wonder why they didn't enter the game.

No they aren't if they have 10 2001 commits then those are the players that should be sitting so they can SHOWCASE the rest of the team the other 14.

Anonymous said...

11:57 So you know more about a girls mindset than her coach that has seen her play for over a year or two? In addition, how long do you think these coaches stay at each game? Her coach might just be helping her by allowing a college coach to see her play with more confidence during the next game or tournament.
All the parents pay serious money to go to these tournament, which is why its important for the player to train for success and a chance to be seen. It is even more important that the parent allows their daughter to play on a team where she will be successful. To many parents set their kids up for failure by doing just the opposite.

Anonymous said...

Have to say - I preferred my daughter play DA this year - but after hearing the accounts I wonder if she'd have been happy with her minutes. Food for thought for the upcoming tryout season.

The entire process tough to figure sometimes. Should we be more involved, verbally - politically - in team selection process at youth level - and in recruiting - or sit back and hope the players' ability shows enough where your player ends up in a deserved role (again - youth and college)?

Luck is involved, no doubt. Showing up places counts, surely. But what else - on a parent's part?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Anonymous said...

3:20 I am no shrink and each school is different in their evaluation process as far as how long and how many times they see a player. Not sure about how I feel about your last comment. Is a parent setting up a kid for failure if the kid makes the team after a tryout or is the coach?

I love the GDA and the 3 sub rule - since we are talking about creating elite level international players. Still very subjective,this is why we need more GDA teams. if only 14 kids are playing there are 10 others that can play on another team since 24 made this year's team. My problem is with the SHOWCASE teams that don't play every kid the minimum of 40 minutes. The GDA showcase is just called a showcase - I think they are really league games which should not be treated as a SHOWCASE event.

5:31 Ask your kid and layout every scenario and story you read and see what they want to do all we can do is support.

I don't have a problem with my kids PT,but it breaks my heart when i see other kids waiting and waiting then I'm thinking the parents are there to support their kid not mine and you can tell they a hurting because their kid is hurting. The coach needs to layout the plan at tryouts We plan to roster 24 players some will play a lot and some not so much. Anyone accepting the spot at least was warned by the coach not an anonymous blog,

just my 2 cents, see no whatever this time :)

Anonymous said...

6:25 As you know, many times players make teams as the 16th through 18th player (I personally feel 16 is enough). The coach takes these players based on that they may be athletic, but not as skilled as the rest. Or that they have a good skill set, but unfortunately doesn't get to see if they have it game (or lack of) in a game situation. I'm sure you have been involved in this game a long time as I have, how many times have you seen a player that looks great in a tryout, but is a different player in a game situation? This is where I feel a parent knows their kid better than any coach and also I feel it is up to them to set the kid up for success, not failure. Why have her tryout for a team that you know falls outside his or her abilities? Is it parental pride and the the ability to boast that "my daughter plays on this great team"? When in fact its 'no, your daughter is playing minimal minutes on that team".
Then we have the "I want my daughter to play against the best", or "my daughter wants to play against the best". Just check out the bottom brackets of the GDA tournament, where the four teams combined came into it with five wins total. Is that truly the best against the best or a parents vindicating their own sense of self worth through their daughter?
Wouldn't the best scenario be for a player to be on a team where they actually play major minutes? To me, that is how a parent helps their child enjoy this great sport. Watching a game on TV from the comforts of home is enjoyable, watching your team from the sidelines and not being part of it is not. 6:25 is correct about kids deserve playing time, but us parents know in our hearts about on what team they would get it and why their not on their current one.

Anonymous said...

Would like to hear from some of the DA parents about the level of competition this weekend? It seemed like the DA did a great job as far as keeping the brackets competitive, and that the 03's garnered more coaches watching than the 02/01's? If so, that's good news for the program moving forward.

Anonymous said...

Did they list the coaches attending each game? Where is this '03 vs '01/'02 info coming from? Thanks

Anonymous said...

No official list was provided from the event for who attended each game but a list of registered coaches was available weeks before. A team parent went around and unofficially counted an average of 20 high ranked D1 coaches, 10 lower level D1 coaches, and 3 local D2-D3 coaches at each game. The younger the age group had more coaches in attendance. Not bad for first event.

The true test is what the next event looks like after the coaches all talk to each other.

Anonymous said...

hope all are okay in the city. Be safe!

7:34 some teams 16-24. If the coach is offering roster spot isn't his/her duty to develop the players or at least try by giving them plenty of time to work through issues and nerves? Players that do great at tryouts go into them with confidence and if they become different players well something happened? usually they are thinking to much instead of playing. Parents do know their kids and what they can do, sometimes it is the coach and not the player that is the problem. If the kid makes the team the parent was right in regards to level of play it's that simple no parental pride, I never met a single parent that boasts about the team. Every parent thinks their kid'steam is great they wouldn't be a fan if they didn't.

What if the parent wants to move the kid but the kid doesn't want to leave,because they want to prove the coach wrong? Should a parent tell their kid you stink we have to leave or do they watch with joy (maybe not so much joy) their kid fight for what they want?

Sometimes it's not about the parent. Soccer is a very subjective sport.HS coaches like certain types of players. Euros like certain types of players, latinos like certain types of players and so on. Depending on where your kid falls is what it is. It still doesn't change the fact that all kids should play a minimum of 40 minutes at a college showcase regardless of what the coach thinks of them if they were offered a roster spot and they payed full tuition That is their right not a participation award in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Top 01/02 teams had 80-100 schools represented by more than that number of coaches (many schools had head coach and an assistant at same game) on first two days.

Anonymous said...

8:34 I am agreeing with you that a player deserves 40 minutes of time to be seen. What I'm putting out there is why it doesn't always happen. As for the part where you don't believe parents live vicariously through their kids in this sport, all I can say is that sometimes when you can't see an issue, it's because your part of the issue.

Anonymous said...

Where the heck is the PAC parents that were on this site before the DA program started playing games? I know it hasn't been rainbows and butterflies since they began or at last weekends tourney, but it would still be great to let us know your thoughts. Everyone knew it would be a rough go for the first two years for the PAC DA and that possibly PF would take players away initially. With PF carrying so many players and giving committed players the majority of minutes last weekend, it only helps the PAC cause next year.

Anonymous said...

So you want parents to come on here and lament the results of the season so far?
As I said back in the day, just because you call a team a different name, doesn't mean it's the best soccer all of a sudden.
Top notch coaching changes would have helped.
They brought in one new coach but I understand he pretty much follows the club guideline in his coaching style.
Rumor is many girls will not return next year...

Anonymous said...

12:12 thanks for the back and forth and anyone else that chimes in. I can tell you I my daughter's number 1 or 2 fan (my wife has a say). I have always supported her choices when it came to soccer even though I may not have agreed with some. All I can do is layout my point of view at the end of the day it's her choice and so far she has a few schools interested in her doing things her way. If that's being part of the problem then I am part of the problem. PS I also like posting results and rankings and that's part of the problem for sure but I enjoy it sorry.

9:47 - my daughter's team also had 80 coaches on Day 1 at CASL with another 60 or so (only 11 from previous day) on Day 2. Day 3 I think it was close to 10 a few repeats. I think all these high level events will have the same number coaches. I think the GDA post season will be different higher number.

12:21 I think the GDA is a different animal when it comes to showcase since college placement isn't the priority. However, I do agree with you if PAC provides playing time over PF why ride the bench when you can start in the same league as the PF starters? NYE has 4 academies, I think the GDA should add 2 more in NJ and another 2 in PAE. This will give you 12 Academies to showcase approx 60 players per state.

Anonymous said...


NY-E
FC Fury NY - 34 points (+31)
New York City FC - 34 points (+21)
Sky Blue - NYSC U - 12points (-17)
Long Island SC - 6 points (-48)

PA-E
Penn Fusion Soccer Academy - 34 points (+34)
PA Classics - 11 points (-13)

NJ
Sky Blue - PDA - 34 points (+21)
Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth - 10 points (-27)

Anonymous said...

12:43 Lamenting the results sounds so dour. Your daughter is learning about life's decision making process. Regardless of whether its a boon or bust success wise, she'll be even more introspective when it comes to making future decisions. I see this as a precursor to making a college based decision, similar to going D1, D2 or D3, choosing freshmen playtime as a D3 versus possible sitting as a D1 or D2.
You mentioned players many girls will not return next year. Remember that the boys DA suffers over a 30% turnover rate after the U16 year. So the numbers will probably be somewhat similar, although I suspect it will be higher on the girls side.
12:46 Good back and forth debate without animosity. I just wish there was more of it on here. Good luck to your daughter.

Anonymous said...

so if you add those, what will happen to ECNL?

Anonymous said...

Thanks 7:23.

Also thanks for the turnover rate - didn't know it's that high.

Anonymous said...

Good convo, like it!
Regarding PAE, there are changes coming to Harrisburg USL and Rush/Altirs conglomerate taking over. Rumor is they may bring in academy soon.
PAC would take a hit or have to make major changes to not lose players.

http://www.pennlive.com/cityislanders/index.ssf/2017/03/george_altirs_named_owner.html

Anonymous said...

6:46 My personal experience is with the boys side of the DA, but a big part of the high turnover rate probably based on two things. One was the club rostering many players (as many as 22), and frequent coaching changes. Playing meaningful minutes at the DA level is important and must be earned in the coaches eyes. So when a player finally becomes a starter or is playing greater than than half the game, it sucks when a new or guest coach is brought in, or a new player comes in and coaches fall in love with their shiny new toy.
I mentioned the girls side being higher because parents tend to be a little more protective of daughters, and it also seems HS is a probably a little more important the girls than boys. I have talked to quite a few current DA parents and they actually admitted their daughter missed playing with their friends. Not sure if it means it'll cement their decision to leave, but this was something I was surprised to hear.
I really thing the ECNL had the right idea when it came to promotion of its players regarding college showcasing. What I'm not sure of is how both the DA and ECNL will do going forward. The DA obviously took talent away from ECNL teams, to the point where even at CASL you had non-ecnl teams beating ecnl teams.
Just one idiots opinion, but it's a shame that PAC didn't get an ECNL appointment and not gone DA. I think they not only would have kept some of those top players in their area that went to PF, but would have garnered some top EDP players that are still out there as well.

Anonymous said...

Girls program has always been an afterthought at PAC.
No way ECNL was considered once they had boys DA.

A few years ago, they had the opportunity to merge with another local/strong program at the time and it never happened. This would have grown both boys and girls programs equally...

Anonymous said...

8:56 Doesn't PF have a boys ECNL and a girls DA program? If PAC had received and ECNL sanction. Those York, Harrisburg and Lancaster players currently at PF probably would have stayed closer to home. In fact, even top players from Berks county and local EDP teams would most likely have tried out.
As far as the merger that almost happened between Penn Legacy and PAC, that comes down to one person and that's Gary Rossi. He started PAC and then moved onto Penn Legacy (or was moved) and Rossi couldn't check his ego, even if it was for the betterment of youth soccer.
Rossi is basically Tino, just with an Irish accent instead of German. At least Klein at Classics has some class and will give a parent a straight answer.

Anonymous said...

It is a good convo. None of us is going to fix the problems with youth soccer. too many don't want it fixed so that is why it isn't.
how many of us would loose their jobs or clients if we treated customers that way?

Anonymous said...

12:40
Egos always get in the way in youth soccer, that's the problem. SK also has a decent ego. TM uuuuge ego but great at marketing his club.
Not sure where you got the facts for your post though. I don't believe GR part of start up at PAC.
He always did a great job with the girls side and this would've been a good merger.
Will be interesting to see what happens in Harrisburg, although this doesn't affect this age group by then.
I strongly feel DA only benefits if player starts at early age and is able to stay in the program.

Anonymous said...

3:43 You mean if we took money from our clients and told them we know know what we're doing, so don't ask any questions? But you right, we are not going to fix the problem. The European model would never work in the US, mainly because we as parents would never want to give control of our children's path. And we like to believe our dollars at least have some influence, even if it's not true.
I do have a question for the parents whose kids are involved in the DA Program. What is the mission or ultimate goal of the DA program?

Anonymous said...

Here you go 8:01. Now you know...

"The Academy Program focuses on positively impacting everyday club environments to assist in maximizing youth player development across the country. The Academy values individual development of elite players over winning trophies and titles. The Academy sets the standard for elite environments for youth soccer clubs nationwide and is a part of U.S. Soccer's global leadership position in youth soccer that will impact thousands of players."

Anonymous said...

Thanks 8:07

That is crazy - they say "The Academy values individual development of elite players over winning trophies and titles." But yet they keep standings and have a post season to determine a Champion. LOL goes right back to 8:01's post -why we will never fix the problem.

The European Model is great. The problem is the size of the USA. I think each state should have 4 club DA teams that feed 1 State team. The state team participates in the league not the club teams. This will allow for lot's of player movement. Non-DA clubs move top players to DA Club teams to replace Injured and players cut. Each club team should have a max roster size of 15. In summary 60 players play on 4 DA club teams in every state. 15 of these players move up to the state team picked by USSF scouts. The DA clubs will then add players to replace these. The job of the Non-GDA teams is to develop players for the GDA teams and showcase them via ODP and PDP.

Just my 2 cents

Anonymous said...

8:01 here. Whoa 10:22!!! How dare you come up with a sensible plan like that. Not sure where you got the four teams feeding into one, but that is a great idea! By using the four teams as a feeder system, for the most part you would end up with the best players making it to the final team. As with any system, there would be arguments over who the final two or three players would be, but that's is better than what's their doing now.
To even think about something like that, you would have to have a governing body that would be able to convince league official to relinquish control. And that's really what it really comes down too, club officials and league officials really wanting to do what's best for youth soccer and not their account balance.

Anonymous said...

haha Thanks 10:57. I'm okay with clubs still making their money and they need to unfortunately just not a lot of money in Girls soccer.

Four teams so they can scrimmage each other. The USSF will oversea their league and the player selection to the state teams. Each state team is that state's NT team the clubs have no say in the selection process of the state NT teams. The Club DA teams do business as usual and are subject to relegation if they don't produce players for the NT teams. USYS will run state leagues for the DA clubs to scout and US club will run the regional/national events. Everyone can still make their money and the players have a clear path.

Anonymous said...

I like it 10:22!!
15 roster a little low though, I think 18 still best. I think we all have seen how quickly you can lose players to injury or illness.

The caveat however is...what is the end goal here? Developing players for their $20K average salary in the NWSL :) (unless WNT players)?

Changes need to start at the top for women soccer.

Anonymous said...

I went with 15 - 2 GKs and 3 subs so everyone plays but the backup goalie (which would be a free sub if starting GK is injured). Remember this is a state NT team so they can call up players when ever they want from the DA club teams Their roster can change as much as they like.

End goal? Creating international elite players, most of the players on the state NT teams will be committed players since we are talking the best of the best from all age groups (HS age only).

My vision.

College Path
State League (3 divisions - D1, D2, D3) managed by USYS
Regional Championships (12 Regions to minimize travel) managed by US Club
National Championship managed by US Club

International path (also a College pat
50 GDA each state has NT team max 15 roster - managed by the USSF
Each state has 4 Club DA teams max roster size 15 managed by the individual clubs

All College path Regional/national games video taped and GDA State NT games video taped - Colleges provided access to pay for the fee to video tape games.

All major showcase tournaments to provide live feeds to their HS age games for college coaches to access at any time with teams being penalized for not playing players the minimum 50 minutes. The live feeds will draw the top teams for the top flights -so the college coaches can concentrate on the other teams at the events since the top flights are recorded and can be accessed at anytime.

Gone will be the days of players falling through the cracks and everybody still makes money. Unfortunately, most parents will continue to pay.

Anonymous said...

11:20 has a good point regarding Women's salaries. Not all of them are Alex Morgan an can receive $100,000 for bikini pics. Something has to be done in that area and the DA should be totally free if you can make one of the four teams. US Soccer was reportedly carrying a 62 million dollar surplus coming into this season. So there's no reason that end couldn't be worked out.
12:13 must have had a lot of time to ponder all of this.

Anonymous said...

To trail off of the 62 Million comment, I have seen an uptick in Facebook posts by US Soccer asking for donations to help sponsor youth players. Based on the current environment and all that is going on in this country I believe US Soccer asking for donations is like JP Morgan Chase asking for subsidies. US Soccer is making top level people rich, should not be considered a non-profit and garners sufficient fees, advertising $$ and additional profit from licensing and products to not be asking for donations on FB.

Anonymous said...

To trail off of the 62 Million comment, I have seen an uptick in Facebook posts by US Soccer asking for donations to help sponsor youth players. Based on the current environment and all that is going on in this country I believe US Soccer asking for donations is like JP Morgan Chase asking for subsidies. US Soccer is making top level people rich, should not be considered a non-profit and garners sufficient fees, advertising $$ and additional profit from licensing and products to not be asking for donations on FB.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. a joke. let them tap into their multi-millions to fund their projects. It's like the FIFA guys are in the US as far as funds and what they do with them.

Anonymous said...

US Soccer still uses the upside down pyramid when it comes to money, so basically it's like a funnel that's extremely wide at the top. That way it's easier to collect from the masses and funnel's down to a select few. The Non profit tag is such joke used by so many today. For instance, the NFL has a Non profit designation. Yet the league office generates of over million income per year. Would love to know how the designation is granted and what is the benefit of the designation? Any tax guys out there?

Anonymous said...

How many clubs are non-profit, too? Joke. How about the IRS enforces these designations which they seem to be handing out like candy?

Anonymous said...

Most soccer clubs carry the non-profit designation. By definition, a non profit is an organization that pays no taxes on monies receives through payments or donations. But in doing so, its members, officers, or directors receive no part of that income.
That being said, there are almost 30 different type of non profit designations and I'm sure all the clubs stay within the confines of their designation. There is no cheating in soccer.
I do tend to wonder though, how these teams handle the surplus of dollars they tend to build up as non profits?

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I have to input on this non-profit chatter.

But I can give you some USYS National League stats

% Committed
30% of 601 players U18
10% of 575 players U17
2% of 409 players U16

% of position committed
20% of 361 players Forward
17% of 506 players Midfielders
15% of 456 players Defenders
14% of 134 players Keepers

% of class committed
45% of 241 players 2018
18% of 620 players 2019
5% of 520 players 2020
1% of 159 player 2021
0% of 8 players 2022

Best teams
13 committed players Campton united 1 2000
12 committed players Nationals union 2000 black
12 committed players Sunrise Sting 2000
11 committed players Princeton SA 2000

Most Active Colleges
10 Utah Valley University
6 Seton Hall University
6 University of Iowa
5 Eastern Washington University
5 university of Cincinnati

Anonymous said...

ECNL
80 teams u18
80 teams u17
80 teams u16
240 total teams - approx 4,320 players

GDA
70 teams u18/u19
69 teams u16/u17
69 teams u15
208 teams - approx 3,744 players

USYS National League
32 teams u18
32 teams u17
24 teams u16
88 total teams (16% of 1,585 players are committed) - 18 players per team

Anonymous said...

And your point is? How about how many top teams left USYS/NL for ECNL or GDA or ECNL for GDA from last year to this year?
The least amount of kid participate in NL because...the least amount of kids participate in NL anymore.

Anonymous said...

What is point of post?
How about how many top teams left USYS/NL for ECNL or GDA or ECNL for GDA from last year to this year?
The least amount of kid participate in NL because...the least amount of kids participate in NL anymore. Most have left for ECNL or DA.

Anonymous said...

apologize for double posting. didn't initially appear so didn't think it posted.

Anonymous said...

Just some stats. You make what you want of them.
They are just numbers that can tell a story.

Anonymous said...

okay - so fill in the blanks I guess? what are commitment percentages for other leagues?
what are the numbers for U15 for ECNL and USYS/NL? Only supplied for GDA. overall numbers will change, then.

Anonymous said...

No idea 5:45. USYS NL made it easy to get. ECNL will release their numbers.
later in the year. The 2017 class for the ECNL was 1,671 Total Players Playing Collegiate Soccer: 1,391 is an impressive 83%, I'm not sure what the NL 2017 class looked like. I;m sure no where close. But their 2018 class is 45% right should go over 50% which isn't a bad thing either. I'm curious to see the GDA/ECNL splits actually.

I like the USYS site since you can look at their commits in many different ways as I outlined. It wasn't a shot at any league or trying to pump them up. Just easy to look at the numbers a few different ways. basically 1 in every 5 forwards playing in the NL 3 age groups has a verbal. I don't know what the numbers are in the ECNL since they only give you a high level. Just a different spin on the numbers.

Anonymous said...

8:36 Thanks for putting the numbers out there. Question regarding DA and ECNL commits and who claims them. Teams like PDA and PF and those ECNL clubs that switched to DA this year, had O1 commits from the previous year as ECNL players. Does the DA claim those players as their successful commits too?

Anonymous said...

My prediction is they both will that can.

Anonymous said...

Yes they tell a sad story. Time to move out of your moms basement.

Anonymous said...

Someone sounds a little jealous?? I think 10:41 has a crush on your mom and wants you out of the way. That or he only wants conversation on the subjects he cares about, or one's that sheds zero negativity on his daughter's club or organization.
There was something once said about "only small minded men avoid conversations in regards to criticisms". Might have been Franz Von Papen right before being removed from office by Hitler and his wonderful diverse group.
Before the birth year change, this blog was a good read with a lot of back and forth banter and with people chiming in from 3 or 4 different states. Now it's just a few post by a couple people, and ones like 10:41 that's upset over the decision they made last year. I just don't know why 10:41 is so morose about his decision and possible results, as their is nothing wrong with D3 schools.

Anonymous said...

Wow, glad I stopped by here before lunch...
10:41 may have issues but 11:30 you come across like an arrogant POS.
Neither is better
So you miss the talk about the 1776 mom don't you??

Anonymous said...

I do miss the banter about Big Red (who is actually a sweetheart away from the field). As for the last comment, it was meant to come across as arrogant. Just because the topic being discussed is not pertinent to 10:41's emotional needs, doesn't mean he needs to disparage the person posting.
Who doesn't miss the Wildcats being called the "awful bunch"? And NJ parents and the parents from "Strange Island" ripping PA Lancaster County teams and their stinking cows. Oopps, gotta go, my moms wants to use the computer.

Anonymous said...

So how are the NL and USYS these days? Saw some games at the turf farms recently. Thought they were world cup games from all the chest bumping. A little much.

Anonymous said...

12:29 not sure what you are talking about.

1:10 what does Staten Island have to do with Lancaster?

1776 mom?

USYS NL qualifiers 2018-19

2017 MRL Premier I Fall Champion and Runner Up
1. FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)
2. North Shore United 01 Blue (WI)

2017-18 SRPL East First Place
3. Charlotte SA-North/Cabarrus Predator (NC)

2017-18 SRPL Central First Place
4. Lonestar SC 01G Red (TX-S)

Anonymous said...

As of now below teams are also in (3 games to play)

1. Premier Navy 2001 (MD) 12pts
2. 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E) 9 pts
3. Rebels 2001 Elite (CA-S) 9pts
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4. Century V 01 Gold (PA-W) 12pts
5. FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO) 9 pts
6. Arizona Arsenal Teal (AZ) 7 pts
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7. BC United 01 (NY-W) 10 pts
8. Nationals Union 01 Red (MI) 9 pts
9. CDA Premier 01 (OH-S) 7 pts
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10. TFA Elite 01 (OH-S) 10pts
11. Legends FC 01 Academy II (CA-S) 9pts
12. Lonestar 01 TCL Composite (TX-S) 8pts
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Anonymous said...

4:47 You don't understand any of those post because they were part of the pre birth year change chatter. Back when feeling didn't get hurt so easily, safe spaces and security pillows were not needed as much. But I do know that the 1776 mom would never require a safe space. I kind of admire her.

Anonymous said...

slick still#1

Anonymous said...

Things you no longer see on this blog:
1. Slick going to another team
2. NJ Wildcat haters
3. Penn Legacy parents
4. Odds on Big Red fighting a bear
5. Penn Fusion NPL parents defending their decisions
6. Futsal League standing (thank God)
7. PAC DA parents trash talking about being a powerhouse
8. Value of playing tournaments on the West Coast
9. Sid the Soothsayer

Anonymous said...

Great points!!! Made my day and had me reminisce the good old days of trash talk!!! Go PAC!!!!
Spent some good time partying with big red in the hotel lounges!!!

Anonymous said...

Forgot about the Grammar Nazi and the Got Soccer Parent, (what was his title)?

Anonymous said...

GS 4 life

Anonymous said...

What about the cute Boca mom’s?

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