I disagree with you on that point. I have seen college scouts at Shore Conference games looking at selected players. They probably noticed them at club events first. It gives them some perspective on how players perform when everyone isn't the same age and size. The overall soccer isn't as good, but depending on the teams, the athleticism and physicality is better. The game gets rougher once you get out of the U## system. In my opinion.
While you may find an occurrence where a local college showed up to see a HS game the larger point is correct. By and large, Colleges don't use HS games when they are looking at players. Get your kid to the top flights of the right tournaments and go to camps. That's your best chance.
What teams in NJ are there that are pass the U18 category? Just curious to know since my son, most likely, will play beyond that.
GotSoccer has a U19 category - if you just sort New Jersey - there are a small number of teams - maybe 30 or so. Don't know about after that age. But once they get to college age it is tough to get them together for any meaningful play.
EDP Cup flights, have they been released? I cant find them.
Edp Cup schedule posted. Visit their site, flights/schedule right there.
60 minute games??
Should be 70 minutes!!!!
60 minute games are a joke
EVERYONE write into the EDP Cup organizer and demand a change. Only way change will happen is when the consumer stops buying a subpar product.
certainly hurts teams with big rosters. Shouldnt a showcase have enough time to do just that? SHOWCASE
EDP is following FIFA ethics. Shame.
8 yr olds w/ 8 player rosters play 60 minute games. Joke. Who do we complain to at EDP?
Good luck getting a change, it would mean getting lights. The last games start after 7pm as it is.
Club coaches and mangers should complain. Nothing will change this year but EDP will know this is not acceptable and maybe it will change in the future. EDP is charging a lot for this and it's not fair to their customers.
Is this really true? Are they really 1 hour games? seriously a joke if so.
How many minutes do you want your kid to play? Most will play 180 minutes, some will play 240 over the weekend. That's two full games for some and almost three for others. In most cases the kids will play 2/3 full games in less than 36 hours. Get your heads out of your asses!! I don't buy into most academy rules, but the one game and occasionally two a week rule works. These are 15-17 year old boys for the most part looking to play college soccer. Do you seriously think a kid playing the 115th minute of soccer is at his peak and is going to show well for the coach that happens to see him at that moment? Go play 60 minutes, stop for 3 hours (cool down). Then warm up again and play another 60 minutes. Oh yeah and do it again the next day. Get a grip!! I understand that a 60 minute game can sometimes balance the playing field in favor of a lesser team, but oh well. At this age we have to start separating winning games from getting your kids exposure. At this point ill take a healthy, rested player over winning games any day of the week.
Okay, Mr. EDP. Teams can bring guests and spread out more playing time than normal to the subs. 60 minutes is flat out too short.
I think that the priority for most coaches is winning (parents and players also) not show casing their players, They'll play exhausted starters whether it's a 60 min. game or a 70 min game.
Some games it takes 20 minutes for a kid to get into the flow of the game or even get more than a touch or 2 on the ball. That's 1/3 of the game.80 minute games for U16-U18 is appropriate. 10 minutes less would be tolerated. 20 less is outrageous.60 minute games does more damage to the boys mental health than 80 minutes does to their physical health. No question.
We will see how quickly EDP administrator change the rules back if the majority of teams boycott the tournament.
NYC Cup is a showcase.Each team is guaranteed 3x 80 minute games.BOOM. Drops the mic on EDP Cup.
Marlton 2 Stronghold 1 in EDP play today. Good state cup Final rematch.
How were the Stronhold parents behaving?
Mainly ok. A couple ugly comments by the 2 men. They are like the 2 old guys in the balcony at the muppets
How about the stronghold dad coach who barks at opposing players?
Was the game at Stronghold?
Game was at Marlton.
Call them. Tell them your thoughts and let us know what they say. You have an issue stop butching and do something about it
EDP heard your complaints and will revise to 70 minute matches.Yeah, right.
The comment was removed about EDP being greedy. Funny. EDP has become a huge machine with a monopoly. Will this post be removed?
60 minutes is not a good soccer decision but may be a good business decision. Where else you going?
Exactly! Monopoly! The D in EDP is for development. Now it's just a business.
Anyone have any thoughts on super u league for this age group?
Don't you mean Super Why?
Funny how my comment was removed about the EDP sham. $1,100 registration per team, for three 60 minute games, and maybe a fourth. That's almost unbelievable. Again where is all the money going? Is EDP a non profit or a for profit organization? That's a legit question. Cool, we have our own version of FIFA right here.
If you have 18 on a team, that comes out to 20 per player per game. That includes fields/refs/medical care.
LOl. 9 flights at U 16 age. It's all about EDP making money. Showcase tournament. How many college coaches do you think are coming to watch the bottom half of 9 flights, especially when their time is so limited? It's laughable. The reason it's 60 minutes is to jam as many teams paying $1100 in as they can, nothing more. Rationalize all you want but it's insane.
It's difficult to get 18 players into a 60 min game.
No, it is impossible to get 18 players meaningful minutes in a 60 minute game. God forbid someone should get hurt, no added time at all.
Boycott EDP future tournaments if they are going to proceed with the unimaginable American created rules of freaking 30 minute halves. By the way parents, keep an eye open to see if college coaches are present. Most likely only one may be walking around.
Accept only the top teams in each age group and make the games 40 minutes. EDP cup just wants everyone's money. No need for lights if there's only a certain amount of teams. Plus they have so many other fields they don't use at tuckahoe. This is a showcase for top teams. The coaches are going to be at these top games anyway. Mine as well make them longer so the kids get more looks in front of the coaches. Like someone said before 60 minutes is a joke. EDP needs to change something but we all know they won't.
Any top EDP teams still holding tryouts?
Why complain only about EDP, check out the so called Embassy Cup. Organized by Bethesda Soccer Club, to be held on Father's Day weekend. That, is a joke. Everyone is in this to make money.
That's a new one and at least they are trying. Different scenario I think.
What's going on with SDFC at EDP cup they lost both games yesterday?
I saw their game against YMS and that and that team is big,mean, and physical. They just bullied SDFC off the ball.
Hahaha Marlboro is so bad
Keep the coaches, fire the kids. Sounds like a plan!
Since everyone was a flop at this paseds weekends EDP cup no one speaking up today hun!!! I guess the top 5/6 whatever you guys call yourselves, did not play like a top 5/6.
That's correct. It was a bad weekend.
Weekends are made bad by poor coaching. Why would any coach not start and sparingly play the most talented player on a team? Why would a coach carry players that he has no intention of playing and when he does he knows that they are not up to the same level as the others? Why would anyone believe that college coaches really go to a showcase when all they have to do is look at the empty coaches only car lot? Why would any coach register for a showcase that allows for a 60 minute game? The reality is that some players are realistically attempting to get into college and play soccer while most others think this will just come to them. Is your coach contacting college coaches for you? Is your coach reaching out to those in attendance? Is it part of what he does or is it a burden? How many teams were in attendance at a showcase this past weekend? They all have these issues and if you don't you are VERY lucky.
Hmmm, angry post.
Very few college coaches attend these showcase tournaments. And if they do, they all see the same handful of players and nothing comes of it. Complete waste
That may be your point of view and I do feel there should be more at the showcases but I know my son has received quite a few contacts from playing at these showcases. I dont know if he will attend any of these schools but he has emails with specific moments of matches so they must be there. Maybe you play at a low level? Maybe you play at a high level but are not getting noticed because of your play? Maybe they just had their back turned when you scored or made a good defensive play?
Maybe your son is so awesome that everyone notices him!
Even if that is so you just confirmed that if you are worth being watched you will be
Put yourselves in coaches shoes...seriously, do you think they have the time to watch mediocrasy players? They are interested in the high caliber players. If your child is not high caliber, don't waste your time filming them. Accept the fact that they are not first division players and are not scholarship category. I have.
90% of all NCAA DI - DIII soccer players are not high caliber players, so not sure what the comment above is getting at. There is not a single NCAA player on the entire U-20 USA men's national team. Not one. So that tells you about the caliber of college soccer. Can't even put one player on the national team.
Not concerned about my kid not making national team. Just want soccer to help him get into a high quality college. That's the end game.
The national team players should do well in life without a degree. Soccer pays so well in th US
The team referenced in 3:48 is shlock. Nothing more. Nothing less. Shlock.
MF wins EDP league. 3-2 win over SDFC last night.
Good job MF. MF did show they are the best in this tough EDP division but surprisingly MF although better was not much better as they are an academy team.
You see goal differential?
7.34I don't know what you mean. There's no team mentioned.
I do see the goals for and against. MF is the best team, in my opinion. Just thought that when I saw them I would be wowed, and I really was not.
I'm sure MF is the team with the pompous dad who says his son gets contacted by "quite a few" college coaches while putting down other people's children.
I object! Speculation, your honor.
Where did he/she put down anyone? If the facts disturb you then tell your son to be better.
Good job MF on State Cup and EDP. Excellent team
10.41Post 12.01You don't consider mocking a boy putting him down? Classy. You must be an MF parent too!
If you think 12:01 was mocking someone then you have some real thin skin or you are just upset because you are finally coming to the realization that this soccer stuff all has an end date.
Twist it anyway you like. It's somebody making a mean spirited comment and hiding behind anonymous.
Pathetic that you feel that way.
3 NJ teams in the nations top 5 on got soccer, good job NJ!! Great accomplishment for the boys and the coaches!
NJ is very good competition. Not a surprise here.
I agree that NJ has good teams but in last weekends EDP tournament, Pa and NY won the top flights.
There was only one top flight (9 flights) and yes a team from NY won it. What's your point?
EDP Cup U16 Boys top flight was won by a team from Connecticut. They beat a team from Delaware in the finals. We played the Connecticut team today, lost by 1 goal, good team but beatable. Was a good experience playing them, well mannered kids, parents and coach.
5:19The point is that NJ has good teams but no NJ teams dominated play in this tournament in top flights, not just the top one. Other states have good teams too.
It's been a good run for Match Fit so far, but all of that is going to come to an end. They're going to get schooled in West Virginia. Best of luck Match Fit, you're going to need it.
Why would you think that? Marlboro did well in regionals last year and MF is better
Why everyone mad about this MF team. They are just good
7:01 Have you seen the regionals schedule? What team is going to give Match Fit a hard time?
The team from Pennsylvania in their group, and if they are lucky enough to make it out of their group, whatever team waits for them in the semi's.
sounds like somebody got cut... enjoy your weekend playing video games.
Amazing how you have this blog figured out. You know exactly who is posting what... Your theories probably reveal more about you than you are willing to admit.
not a theory. Either an idiot posted it or someone looking for praise posted it. Either way it does reveal a lot about me, I have common sense.
Really? I just hear anger and cynicism.
So you believe that MF has not chance and will get schooled in regionals? If so you too are not too bright.
I am a well informed neutral and will tell you how Regionsls will go. Group A - Penn Fusion wins the toughest group because Arlington can beat any of these 16 teams on any given day.Group B - Baltimore Celtic will destroy this group as would the top 3 teams in PA, MD or VA. (The Marlboro group of last year)Group C - Match Fit's only competition is Arsenal (big and physical), but it's not enough. MF will easily win the other 2 games.Group D - Loudoun wins easily, but NYand DE will make them earn it... probably the most balanced group, but Loudoun clearly the class.Semifinal matches include 4 teams that could all make noise at Nationals and get to a final. I am confident about the groups, but this is TOUGH!Semi #1 - PF v Loudoun (both teams already punched a ticket to Tulsa for Nationals via National League) I'll pick Loudoun in a 1-0 game pitting some of the best coached teams around.Semi #2 - Celtic v MF (neither qualified for Nationals so a lot to play for) I'll take Celtic in a 2-1 battle.Final - Celtic v Loudoun (both now qualified for Nationals) Loudouns D and keeper (UVA committ) are the difference in a 1-0 win. That will put SDFC, Loudoun, PF and Celtic at Nationals - a testament to the quality of Region 1 soccer. That is all.
MF and Celtic are both high scoring teams, it will be a tough battle and a wonderful game if they do end up playing eachother
Thanks for the info, I know some parents are taking their sons there to tryout now.
Tryout where now?
If Matchfit plays Celtic, they will lose. Matchfit has proved That they struggle against top tier teams, such as 1v1 soccer from Canada.
True. One game is a history. Lol
So is SDFC and Stronghold not top tier? They may take offense to that haha
Definitely not at this moment! They know it too.
MF lost to more teams then 1v1, how about YMS, Marlton, Marlboro, STA? They also win a lot more then they lose. MF will do just fine at Regionals while everyone else is at the beach.
Good luck MF. All things considered, and having gone to a regional in the past, I would rather be at the beach. LOL.
Thanks! You're probably right!!
MatchFit wins 2-0 against PA West in it's first regional game!
New day. New challenge. Prepare perform perfect
You are right, we can't win
You're awesome MF. Please keep us all updated. Good luck!
Matchfit wins the second game against Massachusetts team 3-2 and are now through to the semi finals.
tough competition so far...PA West -- they're barely top 20 in Region 1. And a Mass team? MA is almost the worst on the east coast...just ahead of NH, VT and ME. But credit to you...you won. Let us know when you beat some real footballers.
Pathetic post above. Sitting in nj
10:45, classic knucklehead who is doomed to spend his life rooting against other teams rather than for his own. Let me guess, you are an Eagles fan too.
So I guess there are no good football teams here in NJ. Please don't tell all of the college coaches that are watching our games!
There's good and there's very good.MF good.Celtic very good.Sorry, but you're done tomorrow MF
If you believe the got soccer rankings, MF is the better team.
Giant fan actually. Still doesn't change the facts
What do you do when your not living vicariously through kids from other states?
What do you mean? Nobody said anything about kids from other states or are you trying to say everyone in NJ should be rooting for MF? Maybe everyone would if you were a little more down to earth!
What have I said that is not down to earth? I am just commenting on you. Apparently I hit a nerve! I apologize.
Another year, another NJ team advances to semis but just comes up short. Good try MF.
Great effort MF and outstanding season. Must have been a tough game. Would have liked to see you advance to Nationals. Regionals is a tough tournament.
MF bites the dust of Celtic, not enough quality players. Thats why they are recruiting.
Getting to the semis is not what you wanted I am sure. Still a very good accomplishment. However, you profess to have major college players on your team and more than a few. Maybe you should have advanced a bit more.
There were at least a dozen college coaches watching the semifinal of the regionals. How many were watching you or your kid playing FIFA? That game could have gone either way. It was won on a penalty kick for a handball in overtime. Good luck, Celtics!
That sucks, feel bad for that kid he will unfortunately never forget it.
It was tough, but he will be fine. He also saved a goal earlier in the game.
Good, I hope he remembers that.
Hey 1:03, Celtic has 3 kids who have already committed and a bunch more that will be playing in college. No shame in losing a great game to those guys (no way a good ref makes that call). Should be a great final tomorrow between them and Penn Fusion. Have to admit, not too upset about not going to Tulsa.
1:02. No need for us to recruit, plenty of kids looking to come.
You don't recruit? Is that what you are saying? I don't care if you do, everyone does, just don't hide from it.
Nobody is hiding anything. If everyone does it then why does 1:02 seem to take exception to it? It is not the first time this "recruiting" issue has been mentioned on this blog. An open tryout was held a few weeks ago, maybe some kids were encouraged to attend. If that is recruiting, then so be it. All current players have been offered roster spots for next year. End of story. See you guys next Spring. Best of luck to all in their High School seasons.
Exactly. Again, I don't care if you do it and even if you did it wouldnt mean they got a spot on the team. The only negative is the sign you are sending current players on your team. I like the way MF plays and I think you are a very good team, just not as good as some on that team think you are.
Whatever, it's all about college recruiting now. All of our kids are getting ample opportunity to do that. We have accomplished our main goals and should be in top flights of all showcases next year. I hope every kid, including other teams get to play at the next level if that is what they want. Good luck to all, I really mean that!
PDA just one step away from Nationals.
Not the real nationals, right?
How many nationals are there?
It's real. SSC won it last year.
It is real and some good teas get to go.
Only bogus because you can simply play in a mid level tournament and if you win go to nationals. Smells wrong.
Actually you don't even have to win. Blues going to nationals
Happy 4th to all.
NYC Cup has a good number of colleges attending. My team is not playing. Anyone need a guest player?
Us club is the real nationals.. We all play most of our games and tournaments under us club cards..the other nationals have a ton of mickey mouse rules with sub par leagues and nobody uses their cards but to qualify for state cup under meaningless games. Who ever uses their cards for tournaments where you have to ask permission to travel. The academies only use us club cards and they are above both nationals.. Odp which is under NJ youth soccer is a Joke they charge parents almost $2000 a year for subpar competition..in the future us club will be the only tournament that most teams will want to attend.. Not the other mickey mouse nationals..
You are wrong but let me tell you why. At the beginning of the US club tournament you provide a roster. Throughout the tournament you can change your roster as much as you like. Now, you win and go to Nationals. You can now add more players to your roster. US Club allows you to add players because you already had tryouts and some were cut and others added. By the time you get to nationals you can have a completely different team. Even if they are not added to your roster you can bring them as guest players. That's right, guest players at Nationals. Stupid.
Yeah don't be silly, 1:43. Look at the ranking of the teams involved and it will tell you all you need to know. Anybody can apply to the regionals and "guest up". Have fun in Indiana but please, anyone can sign up.
Anybody hear anything about the new EDP Super Club model for next year?
No but why would that surprise anyone. Just keep coming up with new names and charge more.
All of the teams in the USYS Nationals would beat the teams playing in the Club final rather easily. Just look at the process to get to the finals... The NPL teams are decent sides, but PF, Loudoun, Celtic are on a different level.
Totally correct. And the CA and AZ teams. Even higher level.
It's obvious from your tone that you're the clueless guy that anonymously talks trash... look at the National League results and see how this U.S. Club team did against the USYS top west coast competition (Albion, Surf or Pateadores) or just look at the NYC team that is average on a good day did all year. (Hint: they do very poorly... Like 0 wins between the 2 poor.)
SDFC beat MF today 4-1. What happened MF? You lost both games at the showcase.
SDFC tuning up for Nationals where they will play 3 of the most talented teams in the country and try to get to a National Championship. While MF is finishing out a season where they missed qualifying for that tournament by an incredibly slim margin so are probably not as sharp. The result makes sense when you take context into account. The top 3 NJ, MD, PA and VA sides can all beat each other on any given day... even Barcelona lose several games a year. Chill and just enjoy a really fun and competitive age group.
seriously -- chill. Teams win and lose. Look at the results over a season of play. Every time a top team loses...someone here asks what happened. Stupid question and an even worse way to follow and evaluate soccer.
MF puts a target on their backs because they brag so much about how fantastic they are. They really need to come down to earth. They enjoyed crushing Boca Shore 7-0 and then boasting to everyone about it. Everyone knows Boca is not a top team. MF won. No surprise to anyone . Now MF had a big loss to top team but no one is supposed to notice.
Mf > Barcelona
New players create new problems
What's the problem?
New ways to work together was meant.
Yup. Looks like MF checked out at NYC Cup. Nice tune up for SDFC for Nationals after a tough Spring. Good luck SDFC, make NJ proud!
How do 16 year old boys "check out"? There has to be a different reason. Missing players etc.
They don't check out.
After playing for awhile with a lot on the line, it is tough to get up for a tournament that just doesn't matter. They are a great team, this tournament meant nothing at the end of a very good Season.
I would think that the players would want to impress college coaches. What is more important for kids who want to play in college?
@4.53It sounds like you agree that MF checked out, See you nest spring.
Again. Kids don't check out. Not kids at their level.
Burned out maybe?
Perhaps, but those scores show something worse. Missing players? New players not up to the same level?
HS soccer on the way. Any teams that are supposed to be tops this year?
St. Benedict's. Always #1. All of their academy players seem to get a special allowance to play high school.
NYRB 4 - Chelsea 2. Looks like even the very best can check out.
MF now comparing themselves to Chelsea. To continue the comparison are you saying that you didnt bring your top players?
Have to exclude St. B, cheating the system wont count.Harrison will be very good this year.
Harrison just lost to Cliffside Park in the Bergen's Best summer tournament, and CLiffside Park is not the same team as in the past years. So how good is really Harrison???
Isn't Ranney supposed to be pretty good this year?
Gill St Bernards and Princeton should be a top team
7:56, how in the world can you transfer that onto MF? Get over it, it's time for you to move on.
Has Ranney ever done anything in soccer? Seriously, I am just asking...
Where is Ranney even at? Why are we talking about Ranney?
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