Well said 12:20 and I have too been through this process with my older children. You and you alone have to get your child inform of the colleges that fit for your children. However, our coaches did play a major part in getting our children in front of the right colleges. They have many connections and the experience. Look at the kids that play for PDA/Pingry, SSC/Gill SB, Delbarton and CBA. They all have HS coaches that are involved in helping the players get into college. Hence the reason why parents fight to get their kinds in those schools and the associated clubs. This is not a hidden secret but the path informed and experienced parents take for their children. Its about how big of a network you can expose your kids to in order to increase their odds.Don't be fooled by local self proclaimed soccer coaches that are worried about their wallets and how much they can make off of un informed parents.
I second that!!! There are so many self proclaimed coaches out there that are only in it for the money and personal achievement. Look at the old NJX program, Marlboro, SDFC, STA, Marlton, etc.... They are really really great club teams with absolutely now proven record on getting their boys into colleges on a regular annual basis. Open your eyes and do what is best for your sons and get them surrounded with people that have gotten dozens and dozens of boys into the schools of their choice.
1:02 Are you saying that the clubs you mentioned have a track record of getting players into college or they dont?
I did not write the comment but 1:06 the private schools and associated clubs do have a proven record. The clubs mentioned in the later email have self proclaimed soccer coaches
I too agree with 1:14
Now you idiots are arguing over college placements. If you are a top rated team in the country, you will play in top rated tournaments. If you are at top rated tournaments college coaches will be there. SDFC, SSC, Marlboro are all ranked in the top 20 nationally. You do the math. They will all see a lot of each other. They will also see SJEB, STA and Marlton at the same.
While top level tournaments are important for college coaches to get a look a top talent, they are NY no means the end all . Summer ID camps at college campuses have replaced the tournaments. A coach can see a prospect over an extended weekend. He can see the player in both game and training situations, as well as seeing how they act off field in dorm, dining hall, among peers , etc. This is far more beneficial to a coach than the hit or miss aspects often associated with showcase tournaments. The tournaments are valuable in how a player handles pressures of time , space and opponent as well ad psychological pressure in high level matches. The most important aspects in college selection process is that 99 % of the players have to market themselves. Contrary to popular belief the coaches for the most part don't come knocking and calling for the players. Only the top tier 1% blue chip players can afford that luxury. Cast a wide net in your college search, keep at least semi regular contact with coaches of your top 6-12 schools and market yourself. Learn how to tactfully pat yourself on the back, because truth of the matter is not many coaches will do it for you. If you depend on that, you may end up disappointed .
Very well said.
Does anyone know anything about the EDP Champions League Cup being played this weekend down at Tuckahoe?
921Got to hand it to you. That may be one of the best posts I've ever read on here. Great advice.
Finally people are talking about college and real information.
Great post at 9:21
Bottom line with soccer is if you are looking to okay in college you have to spend more money on I'd camps to get noticed. Now not only are the local training companies fleecing you for 10 years but the college coaches have joined right in.
True, it's a great gig for them, instead of traveling to tournaments over and over, they can go to a select few prestigious tournaments, but spend most of the summer making money while they recruit at ID camps. Formula for money= put ID after your camps name, hire a couple of college ast coachesfor the week and rake it in.
7/25@1:42major DI college coaches will pay far more attention to the USDA games, regionals, and nationals, and less to where EDP teams play. No disrespect to these teams, that's just the way it is. That's why so many parents have drank the Kool Aid and are sold on the academy system.I do agree with you in that you'd stand a better chance at the major tournaments ( Disney Showcase, Dallas Cup, Surf Cup etc, as opposed to local MSSL college showcases).
7:26 sorry but I have been through this. ID camps are the singular best way. Period
That's your opinion, that's not fact. There are many ways to get recruited by a college coach.
Of course there are many ways but only one best way
The best way is the one that ends up working specifically for your kid. Different strokes for different folks.
What teams are going to the Disney college tournament in Dec besides SDFC? Seams like a great venue with great teams.
IDK? How about the yesterday's news State Champs Marlboro?
11:28 you answered your own question from 11:25. Very obvious since no one has posted a thing on here in quite some time. You can deny it all you want but it is obvious to all that SDFC has at least one problem parent/player. I would think that SSC/Marlboro/SDFC could all get into almost any tournament that they want to at this time. If SDFC is going then they chose to, nothing more nothing less.
That's just really funny that someone would answer their own post if true. Why is there so much bad blood between SDFC and Marlboro? I don't see the point.
I dont believe there is. It seems that one person has an agenda and non one else cares. When do they ever play each other? Not often. Is there a connecting piece between the two?
I think is because Marlboro beat SDFC in the final (controlled most of the game) of this years state cup and finaly proved that they were worthy of the title.
Really who cares about a Marlboro / SDFC feud anyway? Are they even going to rank in the top five next season? It seams both teams are losing key players and will have to get new blood to stay up at the top.
7:28. Agree who cares about the fake feud but you keep telling lies. SDFC is just fine and I am sure Marlboro is also. Shut up already
Other teams are building also. Galacticos are one of them. State cup finalist and just got stronger.
Let son move to a better team, less game time or stay on present time and play almost entire game ?One team top ten, other top twenty.
10:10 do what's best for your son. Ask him toakebas the choice and support him in his decision.
10:10 - The better the competition the better your kid gets. That includes practices (which is where he spends more time).
Depends on what he wants out of it. To be honest, top 20 really means little as even some top 10 teams at this point really are not that good. If he is looking to get into college and be noticed he would want to take into consideration the visibility that will be made available (or not). Playing with better players will 100% make him better. On the flip side, if he does not want to play in college then play on a lower level team and be the man, have fun. Question for you. Why do you feel that he will play less on a better team? Maybe he will surprise you.
I would move son to 2nd team. Kids love to play in games. Games are exciting and you really get to test your skills Besides, not playing in games may damages confidence and self-esteem in a child.
That is the question, do you REALLY get to test your skills or do you lose the opportunity to really test yourself? Look at it this way, if he is on a team of 18 and the coach really only plays 16, make sure he is talent wise at least 14. Anything below that and you might be making too big of a leap.
So the team he plays for is very good but tends not to do many tournaments but plays is a high end league.(thus not many Got Soccer points) The second team is top 5. He good enough to start but comes in as the new guy. The coach made it clear that he would get play time and if he was not happy with the amount, he would play him in another postion also. He is confused. He does hope to play in college.
Not sure of the confusion. If the coach said he would play, and it is a step up then what is the question.
Your son cannot get better practicing with kids who aren't stronger than he is and will definitely not get better if he doesn't play in games. No game time means he plays against same kids over and over leaving little room to develop. Any coach that says otherwise is lying or just looking to collect a check.
Thanks for comments.
My son is a captain and starter on one of the best teams currently in NJ. He was a walk on player and worked his way to the top. Hard work and determination on the players part is very important. It took a couple of years but he was determined to be the caption and play at the highest level.Best of luck to your son.
What is a walk on player?
A player that contacted the club and asked to practice with the team to see if he would fit. No tryouts or offers from the coaching staff to join the team. Hence a walk on player.
Wow, he must really be good. To be able to just go to a practice and show that he belongs. Must be great.
Thanks he's just a hard working boy and worked his way up!
My son was also one of those kids, he didn't make the A team at first but worked hard kept going and is know a captain on one of the best teams in new jersey, he wants to play in college and does not know if to stay on his team or move to an academy to help his chances of being scouted. Any opinions?
Lots of captains out there.
I don't see the point in the academy's unless you have aspirations to try an go pro. No matter what you have been told it is not the best route but only one of many. My kids have played at both levels and my no academy son has received better offers from colleges.
Go pro.....HaDont forget your competition is the rest of the world.
Never say never! There's an MLS player from my town.
MLS, ok. IF you can live on 35k, go for it.
"College ID Camps have replaced tournaments." You are obviously clueless. Most coaches give a speech day one and head out on recruiting trips. Better option for a program this past weekend: A. Head to nationals and see several high level recruits on every field? B. Stay at "my camp" and watch kids who could shell out the coin play? College camps give you a preview of a campus... That is all.
I see you never had a child play in college. No problem, you can be ssen in different ways, and each option has it's flaws.
Question to a prior post. With SDFC and SSC in the area, why did you bring your son to the Galacticos? Not saying anything is wrong with them, just want to know what your thought process was.
12:29 - wow - and you are calling someone clueless? Pick the more attractive option: 1) stay home for 3 days and watch 300 players come to my place and perform for 3 days in ALL facets of the sport - not just play in a game - and find out if they can speak and write as well - oh - and make multiple thousands of dollars at the same time because they PAY for the campOR2) Pay travel and living expenses to go to some god forsaken place and watch games for 2 days (and by the way it is hard to watch multiple games at the same time) hoping I might all the players I need right there.Hmmmm - that is a tough choice.Sarcasm filter off - Anyway - 7:47 poster is correct- there are lots of ways and lots of things to be considered. Just going to national tournaments is somewhat narrow perspective.....or naïve.
Did I just hear right? Marlboro just list their very talented center back and awesome goalie? WTH? Where are they going?
They are going to Marlton
Continuous lies on here. Nothing but lies. Not sure why people find it necessary to post things about SSC, Marlboro, and SDFC that are completely false. Someone has an agenda.
Why would they go to Marlton? Has Marlton lost a couple of players or just adding depth to their already strong bench. What is the other team going to do for a goalie? That's a pretty big loss at this age.
I have a question. Why is it that this age group has the nastiest postings compared to all the others? It's not even close. Seems like there are a bunch of very good teams at this age so why all the snarky, angry posts?
There is one idiot who just throws false information out there just to see what happens. Think about it, nothing against Marlton, but why would a Marlboro player make that move?locationplay timebetter teamcheaperHow would any of those be marked a yes? It is just a stupid remark made by an even dumber person.
Better team in state cups, edp not so much. Marlboro vs Marlton is always one of the best games in this age group if not the best matchup!
Yes, they are. Both teams playing similar style of soccer.
please...no one was talking about marlboro or marlton last year or year before. very good teams now but not necessarily over the last 3 + years
Actually they were both top ten..... Even then. Not sure what 3 years Ago means. 3 years ago NJX was a team. 3 years ago Hudson was good. 3 years ago Ironbound was good. 3 years ago was a lifetime ago....... And yes Marlton, Marlboro, SSC, SDFC, are still thriving. That says it all
While Marlboro and Marlton is a great matchup, in my opinion it falls far short of SDFC v SSC especially over the last three years.
Those 4 Teams are far the best in the state and I would say all are top ten in the tristate are and maybe in the region
I wouldnt keep Holmdel out of this picture, have done a great job of getting back to the top.
Are you talking about region 1? Those teams are NOT the top teams in the region. Be a little realistic while self gloating.
2:31, do you have a child that plays? If you dont consider those teams part of the top teams in Region 1 then why not? I dont believe that anyone said they were the best, did they? If your son is not on one of these teams chances are you would never have played the top teams so where do you get your opinion from? SDFC plays nationally.
3:00 I do have a kid playing soccer at this age level. SDFC would be your best bet at performing well against Region 1 competition. Marlboro has done well winning tournaments the past season. The other two teams are not ranked in the top 10 Regionally. There may be others besides you with some knowledge on what is going on at this age group. Why would you assume my sons team does not play top level teams?
Since rankings are tied to how many tournaments you enter, I don't understand why so many people get carried away with rankings. A top ten team can be competitive with a top 30 team that doesn't enter a lot of tournaments and doesn't collect points.
No top 30 team would compete with a too 5 team. If your son played on a top team you would know how good SSC is and better yet will be
good for you. go for it!
SSC will be #1 in the world someday. Those other teams aren't even ranked!
Yeah right!!! DOOMSDAY.
Rankings are flawed, yes, but they do mean something. You cant gain points without wins and you cant get in the top flights without points. So those of you without points, keep saying how they mean nothing and keep playing in the 3rd and 4th flights of tournaments.
There are plenty of out of state tournaments that aren't as competitive as in state ones but you get thousands of pts. for winning. It's such a game. If parents are willing to pay thousands of dollars for this , their son's team will move up in rankings. You don't even need to win. You get pts. for coming in 4th in a group of about 10 teams. Then your highly ranked NJ team goes to Dallas or Disney and gets destroyed by Mexican teams that aren,t ranked.
Please show us a history of out of state tournaments that arent competitive but get thousands of points for winning.
Look for yourself at Got soccer tournaments. There are many.
If you have little points then you can earn points at a lesser tournament but the top teams can not.
12:57 Really interested to find out about the tournaments you are talking about. Personally don't know of any and the Got soccer Tournaments are not like what you are implying. It is time now for the individual talent of the boys to come through and being on a good team playing high level games/tournaments is beneficial.
12:57 and 12:03 (same person), show your brilliance and give us an example. It will work if you are not highly ranked but once you get highly ranked you have to play teams as good or better to earn points. I have seen very good teams play in mid level tournaments, win the championship and get ZERO points. That is factual unlike your statement.
For those bashing SSC they have been the most consistent team since u-11 In these age group and now they are national champions.. I see lots of sdfc parents patting themselves in the back but no titles to show for..Marlboro deserves credit they won both state cups and did well at regionals but came home with zero wins at nationals.SSC is the best team in this age group..
Yet SSC cant beat Marlboro. Just saying.
Marlboro beat SSC once in 5 years. SSC has good track record vs Marlboro I believe they knock them out of state cup two years in row in the last three years.
I do believe that SSC is the better of the two but SSC you cant have it both ways. You cant continually come on here telling people that the past doesn't matter and that you are the team of the future AND not go by this years results. Again, I believe you are better then Marlboro but my facts have it that they beat you and tied you and you have not beaten them in recent events. Why recent? Because teams change every year and they have to be taken that way. Hell, from what you said on this blog your team changed during this year right? You brought 5 guest players to Nationals right? Again, your words.
well said 4:32, well said.
Correction SSC posted 1 returned from Rec bull, and 1 rejoined team from world class.. Not 5 guest players
Marlboro was scared of SSC at nationals they defended with 10 in the box and only played the counter attack with 1 attacker
No SSC. You said Red bull, WC and you brought others from your other SSC teams. Those are guests you said you had. You SSC posters should get your stories straight.
SSC has the best results this year. National champions
I know this is late but reading these comments are hilarious, where did the rumor of the two Marlboro players leaving for Marlton come from...HAHAHA Hilarious rumor
Reality is they are going to NJSA team
Time now for SSC to get asphyxiated by the actual National Champions. If you don't know who they are, do some research and spend some $ and go play them.
SSC club players are not guest players. SSC always moves players around from their 3 teams
Ok SSC. U can swing it any way u want. U won a tournament U r good. Keep tooting ur own horn. SDFC will still win and u know it. If u were secure u wouldn't have to brag.
stronghold guested kids, those kids are retuning back to academy. I'm not saying the tournament is easy but its very easy to get in to comparing it to npl finals.
btw njsa is a very bad academy team. only reason why they are still in the academy league is because of money and tab ramos
The SSC kids are returning to Red Bulls? Since when! So much false information on here.
Enough about the top teams, SDFC, Marlboro, SSC will all be competitive again. Lets talk about the next tier and did they do anything to make a move on those three. SJEB, Marlton, Holmdel, STA, or anyone else make additions that will help? These teams are right there and one player may tip the scale.
I know this May be a stupid question but recently watching the mls all star game they should do that for youth players, I know odp is basically the but somethig cheaper and for only a game or two vs other states teams. If that were to happen which it probably won't were would the players come from Marlboro, SSC, sdfc and Marlton ???
Sorry, do what?
Make an all-star team
Who would be on the selection committee? Not a bad idea.
Yeah no favoritism at all.
odp is a waste of time
So why do SSC players tryout.
If there was an Allstar team for New Jersey the players would come from SSC , sdfc Marlboro and maybe 1 or 2 from Marlton. Who would be on te selection commite is a good question?
The best "teams" was not the question. The best players.
1:37 seems to understand that best players is what matters right now, not only your kid being on a good team. Reality will hit soon. College recruiting will get serious next season.
For the most part, almost all of the players on SSC, Marlboro, SDFC, Marlton, SJEB will all be able to play in college.
The reason these are the same teams spoken about time after time after time is what? Training? Recruiting? Ability?
All of the above.
Consistency with winning in general and I would say player/coach development too. The good coaches know how to build a team rather than the socially inept ones who find themselves constantly rebuilding.
what are you saying 2:06? Your coach needs to be social with the parents?
Not talking about the parents. A good coach will motivate and grow the passion for game. A bad one will often make the player seek that trait elsewhere regardless of what the parents think. I think SSC Marlboro and Marlton do a great job in this respect and it translates onto the field.
Dont you think that many other coaches "grow" their players passion for the game also? Maybe it doesn't show because they dont train properly.
Or, maybe they don't have the talent. Can still love the game.
What is FC Berna?
Strongholds quest of pretending to be an academy.
12:36 Good sense of humor. Really FC Berna!!!!
OK I have been reading this forum for awhile. Here is a reality check. Bethesda Academy..all 18 players on the U18 committed to a D1 school. Most of them top tier schools. How many of your players will play for Big 10 ACC Schools?http://www.bethesdasoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=280004
1% probably. All this banter is actually pointless. Boy's should be focusing on education. That is the only thing which will matter for the vast majority of these kids.
FC Bernal is another established club that SSX merged with. Not an attempt to act like a academy
If so good in development why merge
They merged because they now have a feeder program and doubled their age groups....momoney
True That program is great
Great program? Where? Who? please advise
Stop the SSC hate please. My son plays and it is a good program. Yes, they added players. Yes it will be difficult for some to get play time now, but isnt that what you want? Competition will bring out the best in all. We hold no ill feelings toward SDFC or Marlboro unlike the earlier posts would suggest. Both are excellent teams and will challenge us. Again, isnt that what we want.
I dont think anyone ever said that SSC wasnt a good program. The issue is that they claim to develop and really what they do is add players from other programs. See merger. It isnt wrong, just understand who you are. Good luck to your son, and hopefully he isnt pushed out as they keep bringing new players in.
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