Personal Rankings: 1. Matchfit 2. SDFC 3. SSC 4. Marlton5. STA
The difference is 9:33, good teams find a way to win, no matter if they are having a bad day or not. That's why everyone is down on SJEB right now.
1. Match fit 2. SDFC3. Marlton 4. SSC 5. Marlboro
Gotta have STA in there.
1. Match Fit2. Marlton3. SDFC4. SSC5. STA
No one in their right mind would list Marlton over SSC and SDFC. Good try Marlton
Marlboro's not top 5. STA is.
Marlboro gave up 7 goals in 2 days. NOT good. They never give up goals, that is what they are good at. What happened to them.
Marlton is very good. No doubt about it. Curious as to how they have done at National Tournaments against the state cup winners and top teams from other states -- especially West Coast and TX teams. And of course, Penn Fusion, Loudoun Red, Baltimore, etc. Maybe they've done well. Just asking.
I guess we will never know. I do know they would have competed well.
Last year made both semifinals and lost, maybe could have done better in both. This year lost in both finals beating sta, Marlboro, matchift(in one of them), sdfc who are all the "power 6" of the state and lost in both finals to teams who are ranked top 25 in the country 2-1 and 1-0 in both very close games that could have gone either way. So to everyone doubting what they would do against other powerhouses, if we have all these great teams in nj and they are beating them... Idk they may be good
Marlton sounds like sour grapes. All I see is a bunch of second place finishes. Win something big in the state or national level then you will gain respect. Otherwise you are a stepping stone for the big boys to win championships.
Who are the big boys?
Don't listen to that jackass Marlton. Winning a state cup is an amazing accomplishment and anyone that has won one will tell you that you not only need to be a great team but also need good fortune. You did great and we look forward to playing you as they are always great matches
5:47 is a knucklehead. Marlton just played 2 full weekends of very tough soccer and played every game hard. Team has heart. NJ is a tough state to play in. I am sure you guys will keep your heads up and continue to improve. I know you have our team's respect.
3:46 funny comment. I had to read it twice to get it then I did. Quite witty
5:47 gets the idiot of the year award.
3:48. My son goes to school with some of these players. They made a change and it didn't work. It happens I guess.
I think 5:47 was pretty harsh but I have to agree kinda. Marlton has been ranting for months on here and came up short of two titles. The difference between #1 and #2 is everything. One team had the title and in the record books and the other team is forgotten. It's mean but what the reality is. I'm happy MF beat you guys so I don't have to hear about your success and tremendous accomplishments.
7:25 where was your team while Marlton was playing this weekend? Edp games? Golf? Sitting at home?
I disagree. Wish my team made it that far. I don't hear Marlton bragging.
My sons team (MF) was beating your sons team in the cup finals.
Imposter alert!!! Don't know anybody on MF dumb enough to say something like that!
OMG is it always about Marlton. Geeze find something else to do. We are all bored with hearing you guys cry. Win something already. We are all happy you guys lost both cups.
SDFC has been pretty quiet recently. I guess they are locking their wounds from their loss to Marlton
Just trolling along...
Haha Marlton had a lucky day. Let's leave it at that.
What tournaments are people playing in this weekend?
Delco. Top flight is packed!
Look out Marlboro, if the previous messages are correct you will be in trouble with these top notch teams.
The posers on this site amuse me.
Marlton you must win something first before you can brag. Just be lucky you are playing in a tough league and that you made both state finals. I will commend you for reaching both finals, but next time you at least have to win won.
If you are to bash us please learn how to spell.
3 out of top 10 teams in the country in the top flight at Delco
Marlboro has no shot.
National rankings on got soccer are a joke and very inaccurate.
Some teams are attending the Potomac Tournament!
If you are ranked #5 nationally on gotsoccer, does that is a joke? That means your team is not good? Ok maybe not the 5th best team in the country but lets say it is 5x off, so you are the 25th best team in the country.
Marlton #4 in the State, ahead of SSC,STA and Marlboro.See rankingswww.youthsoccerrankings.us
Was the final a good match between Marlton and MFC, or one sided? 1-0 seems very close
Close in score only. MFA out shot Marlton 20+ to 5 and out cornered them 13-2. MFA also hit 5 post. Marlton keeper is exceptional (very bright future) and the kid up top is a handful if not Two. Marlton has played MFA very tough, but honestly the scores in all of the games could have been more lopsided (yes even their win). Definatley the best team we've played in NJ.
Where's the response from Marlton? Was that true?
Mr MF, and with those statistics we all know who it is, put the ball in the net. We all can say we come close.
3:35 Could not understand what you were implying!
And we all know who mr. mboro is too.
3:44, not implying anything, stating facts. Every team can say they come close, the only way to win is to put the ball in the net. To be honest, I am a bit tired of the Marlton negativity, Marlton should be proud.
Potomac is a loaded tournament, dont just look at Delco. Potomac has many excellent teams.
Potomac has a couple of good teams. Enjoy the drive!
So bitter and wrong at the same time. You must be a pleasure to be around.
Does anyone know if Penn Fusion and MFA have crossed paths? Would love to see that game.
I checked out Potomac, looks very good to me.
Hey 4:32, you didn't come to this blog to find pleasant people, did you?
SDFC get off of Penn Fusions Mutz already. We all know who posted that dum comment about them and MF. For the record Penn Fusion always beats SDFC
Hey Marlton. You just played SSC, SDFC, and MF. All tough close games. How would you rank the 3?
MF, SDFC then SSC.
Marlton Dad here.I would say SSC, MF and then SDFC. My reason is that SSC plays a very aggressive (in a positive way) offensive attacking game. Their strikers are very very fast and hard to contain. MF is pretty similar to SSC but plays the long ball up to to their Stryker. SDFC is balanced but becomes predictable after you play them a couple of times. All three were very good teams that offer different styles.Good luck this weekend to all the NJ teams.
Predictable in what way?
Predictable in the sense that SDFC plays the same format and seams to stick with what works for them. A team that always plays the same format makes it easier for their opponents to try and make a counter format to win. It's not a negative thing
Marlton Dad -- your team has only played SDFC once EVER...so how do they become predictable for your team? BS post dude.
And Mr. Penn Fusion above. "Penn Fusion always beats SDFC". Really? A 5 sec search on Gotsoccer (see below) shows that Penn Fusion tied SDFC 1-1 in Disney Showcase 2013 and SDFC finished first in that bracket and went on to the finals and Penn Fusion finished last in the same bracket.https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=98274&Page=2&History=yes&compact=Just fact checking your incorrect post
It's impossible to direct a question at a particular team because anybody can answer. For any team it is hard to rank the top teams in the state because on any given day each can beat the other.
You have to look at the entire season thus far. EDP and Region 1 games, state cup games and tournaments. Not just individual games. Do that and see what you come up with.
Here's another website that is out there. Something other than GotSoccer.http://youthsoccerrankings.us
Why do NJ teams want to go to Potamac tournament? Do you get more got soccer points for winning?
Play different teams Tired of playing the same teams over and over
It's a good question. A good team just played 3 good teams - and would be interesting to hear from them their thoughts. Who cares about rankings. Who did they think were the best. No right or wrong answer. Just an opinion from a team that has the most recent exposure to them. And yes, people just have to jump in....
OK so what teams are on the brink or have decided to close up shop?
I hear that SDFC is on the brink of disbanding. Lots of arguing amongst the coaches and parents. Parents are upset with how much it cost and they still don't have a championship.
What kind of radius does SDFC attract from?
That stinks SDFC was a good team to play. Arrogant management but a good NJ team.I would say they get most of their players from north central NJ
You seriously believe this? It is a joke.
Where there is smore there is fire. Look at the old Holmdel X team. The rumors hit the street and BAM! The team was already disbanding. I beleive it.
Not a chance, go back and read your bedtime stories.
Some will leave, most will stay. There aren't too many quality teams in the area. The players are happy. Some parents aren't.
Grass is always greener on the other side. SDFC is a top program, top team, top tournaments, top coaching. You will not find that easily. No one is leaving.
I Dont doubt it, SDFC has no titles since u-13. Thats a long time for a team that considers to be one of the best teams in NJ
Seems the kool Aid is not sweet any more. Tastes like sour grapes..
SDFC cost is equivalent to other programs in Jersey considering they have a dome which allows practice sessions in winter. As far as this team is concern, you have multiple different talent. Some are academic and some are recreational status. Coaching remains simple, non aggressive conduct which at this age group becomes obsolete. Either you have a competitive group of boys or you play all because they pay. Therefore, you win some and you loose some.
ALL BS. Could there be a parent that isnt happy, sure. Show me a team where all are happy. This is all BS.
11:33 it sounds like someone hit a nerve at The SDFC camp. Like the previous post says. Where there is smoke there is fire. I hope you can keep the ship afloat longer than the X team.
Bickering, self centered parents will put an end to any team. Your kids get hurt in the end. Coach gets tired of listening to them.
Self centered how?
Thinking about your child, wanting to put him first, he deserves more playing time, the team would win more if he's kept on.
So with your definition 99.8% are the issue
It is not about self center parents nor one individual player getting more playing time . It is about consistency on the players part on the field at all time. It is not difficult to determine how teams like the academy Red Bulls , play talent and don't have to worry about paying parents. That is all. It is obvious that you will have more consistency with outcomes, wether you win or loose. Just saying.
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
I wonder where the SDFC players will go?
Nowhere as they aren't breaking up. Stop the insanity
Looks like all the sdfc trolling finally got a strike. Just keep throwing the chum and they will come.....
SDFC has benefited from setting up shop in a geographic area that really does not present many other quality soccer club options--especially since IB has gone downhill. Sure, there is TSF, Stallions, Hudson, DOL--but none of these clubs ever really stay at the elite level. Now, however, CSA has moved in and I think they will increasingly attract players who previously would have simply gone to SDFC as the obvious elite club in northern NJ. It's already happening at the younger age levels.
Where is CSA located? Practice fields?
Cedar Stars is in Bergen County and they don't have a u16 or u17 team so their not going there.
Because CS would not take their money and form a team.
Cedar Stars has done really well. They're only a few yrs old and they already have academy status, They're growing like crazy but mostly at the younger age groups..They have a Bergen County division and a Newark Division.
They have academy status because of Tab Ramos, take him away and so does the status.
Why? The deal is done.
From what I can see, USSF is only opening up U14 academy teams. I think they are trying to identify players earlier. After U14 they want the selected kids to go to the MLS academy teams (RB, Union). So they will keep those feeder academies (MF, CSA, NYSC etc) alive. Eventually PDA will have same status as the feeder academies. Just my theory...
Tab Ramos is at NJCSA. CSA has their own management, They got their foot in the door by buying NJSA but now they're a separate academy.
They are NOT an academy.
They're listed on USSDA so they are
are they listedhttp://academy.demosphere.com/
Yes, under u13/14. Their club is only 4 yrs old, they'll be adding more academy teams as their players get older
Sorry, the list provided encompassed all academies. Not listed.
Matchfit isn't listed under clubs either. Don't they have a u13/14 academy team? Believe what you want. You sound pretty narrow minded and opinionated anyway
Cedar Stars does have the Tab Ramos Academy (not sure why the link above doesn't show it). Capelli paid a lot for it. It was at NJ Stallions for approx 1 yr and then Capelli bought it. Younger teams are okay -- not great just yet. Biggest threat that CSA Academy (or whatever it will be called) is not to SDFC, but PDA. There are a fair number of kids north of PDA who don't want to play for RB (or don't make the cut) who play for PDA and who will opt out of the 1 hr drive south to Zarepath and play w/ CSA in NWK or wherever they set up shop in the area north of Zarepath
Just to correct 12:10 on CSA--they do have a U17 team in Newark that is made up of u17 and u16 players. And they are very good. CSA Newark at the older age groups is largely comprised of St. Benedict's players. The relationship between CSA and St. Benedict's basically makes this an academy-like environment--in that it offers true year-round very high-level soccer. I hear that there will be a U17 team next year and it will be interesting to see how they compete against the current top teams in the U16 (rising U17) group.
Academy like is not academy
Seems like you hit a wall. End of story
4.29How is it possible that CSA has a u14 academy team on the academy league schedule and not be academy?
Sounds like SSC is trying to prove that they're as much of an academy as CSA is.
Did MF and Marlton show up at Delco tournament with key players missing?
SSC also went down in Potomac..not just MF and Malton. 3 of the "big 6" goin down in the first games. Ouch
Add Marlboro to your list of power 6 NJ teams going down in opening games
Marlton not trolling?
When your team plays in the top flight of a top tournament against the best that Canada can bring then please let me know. Until then enjoy your empty victories over subpar teams
That should not mean you get blown away. MF, you are a top NJ team. Should do better, and how good were they? Must have been an excellent team. No disrespect to MF.
Did any NJ teams have a good showing?
Define showing I assume you mean win which shows how shallow you would be if so. A team can win 3-1 and have the lesser of play.
True. A good showing isn't defined by just a win or a loss. Tournament play is a different story altogether though. You enter with the hope to win so a positive result (good showing) would be a win, a tie, or a low scoring loss. Especially for teams playing in top 1 or 2 brackets with very good competition.First games can set the tone for the rest of the weekend. It becomes more difficult (not impossible) for teams who lose to advance.To go deeper shutouts, GF and GA become major factors if you don't win out?3 goal deficits hurt. IMO any team who scraped a win or tied had a pretty good showing if they are in top 2 maybe even top 3 brackets.
MF was bragging that they will wi9n the tournament. Maybe, you spoke too soon.
Why is Marlton playing in a lower bracket at Delco? Why not the top bracket?
Can someone tell me how holmdel can play without s carded coach.
Marlton got dropped out of top flight to make room for 1v1.
Shut up Howell you know you are wrong
Howell has 1 pt and Marlton 0. Not sure why Howell has to shut up.
Holmdel needs to be disqualified. No coach on the sideline after getting thrown out.
^^ your crazy. There was a coach. There wasn't a referee but there was a coach. You have no argument. Game could have been 10-0. Just stop it an be proud you only lost 3-1. That's quite an accomplishment in itself.Move on to whatever it is your going to move on to after this tournament Howell.
Ohhhh holmdel sending out secret information. Nice
SDFC, MF, Marlboro all knocked out at Delco
Very true. Great level of teams participated
SSC out of Potamac tournament
Why all the negativity. These teams are all real good. We lost to a Canadian team that was as good as I have seen from top to bottom. Beat s good Marlboro team that we were fortunate we weren't 2 down at half. Tied a good east meadow team but we completely outplayed them just didn't finish. At this level anything can happen.
What's negative about saying you're out of the tournament? If you won, you'd be shouting it from the rooftops.
Why are you following us. Envious?
No, but if you won Id be impressed
I don't think MF would say they were fortunate to not be down 2-0 even if it was true why would they say it idk just my opinion
Why not maybe it is true. They won so it is easier to be truthful maybe??
MF parent. Fortunate might be a stretch but they could have had 2 goals. We could have had one first half goal too. They collapsed we didn't
Nice showing by holmdel. All the way back power 6. Wish you were playing monday?
Way to go Holmdel! One NJ team is playing a final!
2nd tier team winning 2nd tier flight.
Marlton was in that flight and they're considered a top team.
MF parent here. Good luck Holmdel!
SSC played in the 3rd tier flight. Why hate on Holmdel calling them 2nd tier? Good on them. Good luck Holmdel.
too bad this forum can become so weak with all of the back and forth negativity. to quote the blog guidelines, "Keep the discussion informative, lively and engaging not negative"--so why not try discussing some actual issues instead of always firing petty shots at Matchfit, SSC, SDFC, Marlboro, and Marlton? how many parents on this board have sons who are talking to college coaches? what is that process like so far? who thinks that they have a son who will play at say D1 or D2? What do you all think matters in the profile of a player who wants to be recruited at a competitive college program? Just some examples of informative and useful conversation topics.Does anyone know of a comparable blog for NJ youth soccer that has more consistently meaningful discussion?
Talking to D1 or D2 coaches? They can't talk to you right?And good luck holmdel
Coaches can talk to you but you have to contact them. They can't reach out to you until the summer after your junior year. There can certainly still be contact now, just not from coach to player, rather from player to coach. This is my understanding as conveyed by a coaching staff.
Parents of those players on top teams that their sons come off the bench. Does the team have an established policy on how much time these players are told they will play. Before my son joined, I ask the coach not to take him if he was not going to see significant playing time off the bench. I assumed he would not start since many came before him. He said that was the case but in reality the coach lied and he sees very limited time regardless of his play. The coaching staff seems to do this with all the bench players. Regardless of how they are playing, they are pulled out after 10-15 minutes. I must say that at times some of the kids coming off the bench are contributing more to the win then the starters but regardless, they are pulled off and some times not played the next game. Totally frustrated at the club for bringing my son on under false promises.
Which team is your son on?
MY son was in a similar situation where it was understood that he was not a starter but told in writing that EDP is a development league and playing time would be evenly spread out among all players. Most games he would receive 10 min in 1 half and 0 in the other. I came to the conclusion that there was a set number of minutes designated to subs and it was not going to change any time soon due to club politics. We lost all trust in that club and we're now at a new club.
No way I would name the club. I would move him but that means he starts all over at U17 and the chance of being seen by colleges them would be thru his high school team. That won't happenMy son says he will work it out with the coach but each time he speaks to the coach, the coach says be patient; you will get your chance. Twenty games played with 8 left.That coach should be ashamed of how he lied to one of his players. Especially a 16 year old. I would talk to the Director of the club to get him fired but my son keeps thinking that the coach is being honest an I should stay out of it. Any good advice out there
It's a tough call. Changing teams now is not easy. Especially if you are trying to move to a better team, but it's not impossible. Next year is a very important year for these kids. Hopefully your coach will understand that a college showcase is for just that, giving colleges a chance to see your kid. College coaches don't care whether the team is winning or losing, I bet they want to see how you handle both. If your team is on track to be playing in the upper flights of the right showcase events you should probably stay. You need to reach out to college coaches that you are interested in. If they are going to be at the tournament your team is playing in then your coach should make a concerted effort to get your son a decent amount of playing time. None of the other stuff matters now. It is all about getting kids exposed to college coaches if playing in college is what the kid wants to do. Also get your kid to camps. Your coach can't not play him then.
Try to arrange a meeting between you, the coach and his manager so you're all on the same page. It sounds like your son is the one who will be hurt in the end.
Get better. Coach wants to win and I he feels you will elf then minutes will come
Why was SSC playing in the 3rd flight at Potomac?
@12:27I think you should wait and see what happens between now and the end of the season. If your son's playing time does not improve, find a new team next spring. College Coaches will still be interested in a good player regardless of what team he plays on.
Significant playing time off the bench......? They are pulled after 10-15 minutes regardless of how they are playing you say. Maybe your son just isn't any good find more time on a lower level team. Most benches for top teams have 4 guys who could be starting. Those guys play. if 18 can suit up an be brought the last 2 guys won't contribute as much as the first 4 off the bench. 10-15 minutes is great for the last kid on the bench.If players don't want to compete for time on a good team then they can always give up be a star on some low maps team. They will play more but they won't get any better. College coaches aren't interested in kids who can't play at the youth level. Sorry be realistic with your kid. Play for fun.
If that was the case. He has come into three games and twice made the pass to allow for the winning goal and once made the goal to win the game. He was pulled off the field after his 15 minutes and didn't play rest of the game. He has come in several games and shut down the others team offense and than pulled out after 15 minutes. I have been fairly objective over the course of my son's playing history. That fact he was offered a spot in a top team says he has quality. That is too strange for me to understand
There are so many variables with playtime issues. Does the coach have a relative on the team? Does the coach play people who pay for extra training? Are there a lot of mids (if he plays mid as an example)? Are the defenders ever sub out? What is his attitude like, maybe the coach just doesnt like him.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The coach probably just trusts the other players more. You can't put your head down. When given the opportunity to play even if it's only 10-15 make it count. Continue to assist like you said he has, continue to shut opposing teams offense down. Continue to play positive minutes and more should come if the player produces the coach will recognize that. It won't happen over night. Hard work and patience is the right attitude.
But running out of time. Next year is a big year.
Academy teams have a 20% start rule. Why don't club teams?
It's a privilege to be on a good team. Playing time is not your right because you are on the team.The player has had almost a full year to prove his worthiness to the coach and hasn't done enough to secure a more meaningful role.Look at the players whole body of work. Has there been noticeable progress in his work at practice, in games and with what he does on his own to improve everyday.If you believe that he has worked hard enough off the field an produced enough on the field to earn his spot without a reasonable doubt than you have an argument.You the parent would know if the player is honestly doing everything he can to play. If he shows up to practice twice a week and games once he is doing the bare minimum. Think about it, and be honest with yourself not this anonymous blog
If you really want to be honest, VERY FEW will really play considerable college soccer at a big program. If I am correct, and I am, move to a team where he will play. You only have 2 years left.
More will play, there are a lot of good NJ teams and players.
Looks like my kids team will no longer be one after this season. What top 20 type teams in Monmouth/Ocean counties are looking for players? Can play defense and mid.
Holmdel, Howell, Marlboro are the first that come to mind.
Howell is the team breaking up.
Thank you for the information but I was hoping someone would know for a fact that they were looking for players. I guess Howell is out of the question. thank you.
Wait. You do not need to jump at a team right away. Do your research, go to practices.
You could also go the NJSA or NJCSA academy route. I dont know how the break it down, they are not classified as U17 next year. I dont know if they still go by birth years but it is an option.
Boy, this blog has died.
LVU wins big against Marlton in EDP game today! Wondering if LVU are that good !
Top flight of Edp are all good. Don't get caught up in scores they don't tell the story
Marlton 0 - 3 Europa crunch At delcoMatchfit 7 - 1 Europa crunch. Edp What's the non story with this one??
The story from this post is MF is really arrogant and they like to put all other teams down because MF believes they should still be playing academy,
If they are so good then why recruit players during the game? Yes it is happening.
They recruit players so maybe next year they will beat the 1 v 1 Canadian team
Just like I recruited your mom
Never takes much to get the MF haters worked up. Tough Spring for you guys...
SSC b team is better than the A team. Seriously. In practice, or I'm told, the b team wipes the floor
Funny. I guess your son didnt move up to the A team.
Don't all teams recruit? No big deal if MF or anyone else is recruiting. Are there even any roster spots available on MF? Why would they be looking.
MF recruiting, that's funny. U14, 15 and 16's are the best in the state if not very close. If the end game is college for your child, you should be recruiting MF.
According to MF of course.
so how do you recruit during the game? Is there an agent there with a contract running up and down the sidelines trying to get a kid to sign? Is the coach sittin on the other teams bench talking to kids?Jeez. Matchfit has proven that for the most part, kids getting trained at an academy level in terms of numbers of sessions, year round investment in time, etc are better then town teams that dont. Wow - amazing news. Alert the media. Best in NJ? Compared to what? Are you better than all the other academy teams that are still academy teams? If Red Bull U16 decided they weren't an academy anymore and joined the mix would you beat them like you beat Marlboro? Two more years - then everyone has to play with the grownups in college - then we see how good they really are. But then again - the really good ones wont be playing in college - they are already on their way to a professional career. So all you top U16 players in NJ, that think because you won a state cup you are at the highest level.....guess what.....you are multiple levels below the top level.....even in your own age group. So keep it real.
Which is why my son is moving to the academy level. Been to some practices and the top academy players are very good but for the most part the academy teams offer depth where the club teams do not. Enough of the coaches who think they know everything but really are just cashing in.
Good for him. My son will continue to play at a high level in club, play with his friends and classmates in high school, continue to excel in academics, get accepted into some great colleges as a result, and probably end up playing soccer for one of them while getting his degree and beginning his career in the world of grownups. And if all that happens, I will have done my part and he will have done his.
No need to play in HS any longer. Grades are most important and the HS you choose is just as important. HS does nothing but get you hurt, it gives no college exposure.
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