Ironbound is this weekend, they do not cancel or at least have not in the past.
They've got to be worried. Maybe they can shovel all the fields but that's unreasonable. They probably use about 100 fields.
Shovel? Why not plow? Do they really use 100 fields? Seems like a lot to me.
Does anyone really care about the Ironbound warmup? Do competitive teams even go to it. No way they will clear their fields, they will lose money.
Ironbound teams are competitive. It's a good local tournament. Not everyone has thousands of dollars to spend on fees, hotels meals, plane fare, etc.
Low to midlevel teams at best.
No need for that comment. We all can read an applied team list.
To the poster above you only agreed with the post above yours. Question for you. Why would there be no need for stating it is a tournament for low to mid level teams? It is true and what is wrong with that type of a tournament?
I've been told it will be canceled Too bad for IB and players
So we know that Match Fit has most of their players committed to play college next year, what about the rest of the top teams in here. Do they also have a lot of college commitments?
nice trolling. of course the top teams do. Define top teams = top 5 teams, if you want to play in college you will.
I guess MF cant stand the feeling of people not thinking about them so they start the same conversation again. Good luck being backups.
Yeah, because most freshman go in and start right away. What a tool!!!
3:52, someone always bites...
"Yeah, because most freshman go in and start right away. What a tool!!!"Or better yet, never start at all. I went to a D1 match last fall in which 21 of the 22 starters were international players. And my understanding is that the 1 American starter (a goal keeper) was actually a back up filling in for an injured international.
21 out of 22? That's just stupid. Were you in the United States??
Looks like not all the NJ Cup games have been played. Likely that extensions have been given out due to field conditions. No real surprises that I see so far.
That's nuts. What were the names of the schools playing?
Check out a Rider/FDU/LIU/Adelphia/Georgian court (should I go on?) match. Easily can field an entire starting team of foreign players. Why is this such a shock to you?
I was at a Rider game when they played Nova. They do have a bunch of foreigners on their team. I think Rider had about 7-8 starters. Villanova had 1 or 2. To act like those 4 teams you mentioned are representative of what college soccer is like is a bit misleading.
Albany, St Bonn, Rhode Island, Stoneybrook. Just a few more.
I took a look at some of the schools listed, no so surprisingly they are mostly foreign players. I have a relative who is a staff member at Mercyhurst University and he tells me that their team is at least 85% foreign players.
Just for the heck of it I checked out last year's D1 final four teams. 10 foreigners total on all 4 rosters.
So US players are better!!!! I knew it!!!!
Ocean vs Holmdel in the next round. Do not be surprised at the result.
The US players are just as good as the foreign but college coaches recruit a lot overseas and these players are offered full scholarships. Not a great situation for US athletes.
Foreign players do have an easier time getting into D2 and some D3 schools as many of them don't have the academic history required by more competitive schools.
Wall upsets Marlton. Or is it an upset? Wall has flown under the radar for some time.
It is at the very least an interesting result. Marlton is a very good team that has never won a State title. Only one more chance.
What's upsetting is a self inflating parent whose little toe poker is on Wall is on here to tell us about thier first win out of MAPS. You probably dominated the MOSA Premier flights too...
Toe poker? Is that what you saw? LOL
#10 losing to #24 is not that big of a deal. Could happen to any team on any day. New rosters for most teams, I think you will see more so called upsets in the future.
I agree, there are going to be lots of upsets this year. This age group is going to be a real wild card. Kids are all playing for different reasons. Some to keep in shape, some hoping to possibly catch on with a college team, some for the fun of it.
Yeah. TSF over holmdel prolly not an "upset" either. Teams are stacked with players with a variety of reasons for playing at this point-as an. Earlier poster pointed out.
to keep in shape or for the fun of it wont work if you want to win
why is winning so important to you? It doesn't mean much at this stage.
Yes, the time for winning is kinda over. Years past you wanted to win so you can get to the top flights of best tournaments so you can be seen by college coaches. Pretty sure these 18-19 year old kids aren't looking for trophies and medals.
Do you seriously think that these players do not want to win when they step on the field? How do you think many of them go to where they are and will be (playing in college). No one said there was an end game of getting into better tournaments, but the will and desire to win a game is there.
I don't think that most players think winning is the most important thing. They play because they love the sport. If kids only motive is winning, they end up losing interest.
Yes, on some teams out there the parents want it A LOT more than the kids.
Top level athletes care about winning. That is how they became top.
Top level athletes care about winning but they know it's not the most important thing and that's what makes them top.
"winning doesn't matter anymore" Marlton.
It's all over in 3 months, what are guys gonna do??
Some will move on to their younger children, some will look for college forums, some will vanish.
"playing doesn't matter anymore" SSC
Is Stronghold bagging games again? If you cant give an example dont bring it up.
They bagged this Sunday's game vs. MF
For all you know there was a legit reason. Fields not ready maybe?
Turf. No snow at all. You would think after what the team did last year that would make it to early season games...
what? "that would make it to early season games"???? What are you trying to say?
Typo, THAT should've been THEY, you still should have understood my point. But I get it, you are trying to change the subject. I will be totally stunned if SSC plays all of their games.
Why wouldnt they play their games? What is their point, hey guys lets pay to join this league and I know how we will get them, we wont play our games. Now lets go show them!
That's what they did last year...
They didnt play their last 2 games, now why would they join a league and not play their games this year? That makes no sense at all, they all have money to throw around and just want to be a pain to the league? There is a reason they couldnt play their game, sorry it didnt work out for you but they are not trying to please you.
I am not upset, you asked for an example of SSC bagging games. I provided you with an example. Yet you feel compelled to defend them.
You have yet to give a reason as to WHY any team would do this.
Ask the SSC coach
I have no idea why, but I do know they have bailed out of their first league game. That's what you asked for. Since you seem to be part of SSC maybe you can tell me why they bagged the game this weekend.
Fear of MF, obviously.
Isn't MF playing in a different league than SSC? Any game was probably just a scrimmage. I'm sure no team is scared of MF unless they deliberately go out and try to hurt other teams.
What are you talking about? Scrimmage?? You have no idea what you are talking about. None...
Why league game was it then?
Edp games are changed all the time. Relax MF the game will get played
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