Yes, both teams!
Not sure you can put any blame on MF if they tried to play. I would have to think that SSC is to blame because they are always on here and if they had a defense we would have heard it.
Games were on the schedule, cancelled the day before. One team cancelled twice.
Well one team has broken up, the other could be in the stages of breaking up. Who knows?? But I agree, EDP league should fine the organizations.
Look in the mirror Marlboro. If you don't lose two games, you don't finish second.
Who complained about coming in 2nd? Top division forfeits for no reason is the topic of discussion. MF would have preferred to earn it also.
Holmdel one step closer to Nat's!!!!!
Holmdel, what tournament are you in that leads to Nat's?
Have to love it when a team with a roster over 20 cant field a team for a match in over 3 months. I am sure the parents spending all that money must be thrilled with the ROI.
I agree. It's ridiculous that they have to play the same starers every game or they won't play.
Trust me, MF was willing and ready to play. Not really sure of their reasons but we would have preferred the title the old fashioned way.
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Don't even need to play today.
How bad is FC Copa Inter? Seems like they lose 6-1 every match. I thought Copa was a good club, what has changed?
Holmdel looks like they didn't try today. Truth holmdel?
Awesome! You beat 3 less than average teams to go to Nationals, even though you lost in the state tournament. Quite an accomplishment!
Mid Atlantic Regionals is a tournament that leads to Nationals. The games were won, how would you suggest any wrong doing?
Nationals will be in Texas. Where will you be?
Actually Nationals will be in Colorado and Texas. Two different organizations, two different titles. MF will represent NJ in one and NJCSA Marlboro the other. Holmdel will now be allowed to attend, if they should accept.
MF is going to the real nationals. Cant compare the two, and NJ's best will be in Texas.
Normal Match Fit propaganda.
Match Fit has to get through regionals before they get to Nationals. They will have to beat teams that are ranked in Top 10 in the nation to get there. A little different than grabbing some guest players and beating teams ranked 10-20 in the State of NJ. Totally different challenge.
Have you looked at their schedule. When do they play teams ranked 10-20 in nj? Did you see their regional schedule? Easier then their Edp schedule. You speak of what you don't know
Hey 7:27. Next time you post, make some sense.
Prove me wrong
OK, what happens after pool play??
I said look at their schedule and their scheduled games are weak. Any more name calling me wrong again
Strange argument. MF does not have a very hard regional schedule but they always play great teams. They play a very strong Edp schedule where they lost one game to a team that has won 3 out of the last 6 state titles MF I hope you do well, NJ is on your side
MF wins again
MF through to the semis, where they will likely play a really good Loudoun team from VA. If they are fortunate to get through the semis, there will be one of four of the top teams in the country waiting for them. That's a tough road to Texas.
Yes, to pretend that this is on the same scale as US Club is just silly. Not only do you have to win the State, you have to get through regionals which has 5 of the top 10 teams in the NATION playing. Good luck to Marlboro and Holmdel though. We'll be pulling for you!
6:41 is right. Good for NJ to be well represented though. Holmdel has had a good year. Marlboro has had a good year. MatchFit has had a good year. These are 3 very strong sides.
Region 1 semis all set. Massapequa v Pipeline and Loudoun SC v MFA.
4 of the best teams in the country.
US club winner. MarlboroNJYS winner. Matchfitwhat would happen if they played?
The quality of the teams are similar. MF just has a bigger rep because they spend more time and money traveling to a lot of tournaments. The four teams mentioned are four of the best teams in the country but they also are four teams that spend the most money.
Tough way to go out but it is what it is
Not from MF, but quality of teams are not the same in US Club. Every top team enters NJYS, not every enter US Club. Agree more money involved in NJYS - part of Region 1 league and/or National league, but completion in those leagues are top notch. Do not want to diminish Marlboro - they are a great team and had a great season and are as good as teams competing in Regionals. But if each team is honest, they much rather make it to Texas over Colorado. Tough luck MF but congratulations on a terrific tournament.
Agreed, Texas is the preferred destination but that should not diminish US Club and their title. It is not as prestigious but the work and path is very difficult also. MF, SSC, STA, SJB, all had an opportunity to move on but didnt. MF is the best NJ club team and deserved to represent NJ in regionals but to get through to the semis in regionals was no great feat, I think even MF would admit that they were the better team in each game and should have won. Losing to Loudon does not make MF a bad team, just means they lost a game. MF would represent NJ very well in Nationals if given the opportunity, I am very sure of that. Marlboro will now have the same opportunity in Colorado, and if they win it all that still doesnt mean they are better then MF but it will mean they had a hell of a season. If they dont advance, it will not take away from their season either, if your team beat them this year you are one of the very few. NJ should be proud of the teams they produce. SSC, STA, SDFC, SJB, maybe even Marlton could all show well in a regional/national tournament.
Last NJ National Champion in this group = Stronghold.
Ancient history. Is SSC staying together or are they done?
Why would they be done? Do they have a lot of seniors?
SSC has no seniors, Team will be even stronger next year
That won't be hard
Question is will they show up to play their games??Who will coach? Can't have same guy back
All Stronghold experts I see. You don't know why anything happened and to be clear you most likely never will. Two State Cup finals matches this year and you want to say it was a bad year? Name another team that accomplished that.
SSC is a good team with some good/very good players. That doesn't change the fact that the coach is an ass and should be held accountable for his behavior.
Do the SSC parents and players have a problem with the coach? If not, then it is not an issue.
I don't know what league they will be in. I would think EDP is not too happy with the coach and the way the team folded up early this year.
So EDP wont take their money? Come on now
Edp will be so strapped for good teams next year, they might even have to take NJX.
That certainly must have been a joke. Holmdel, are they even called NJX anymore, is a very good team and I guarantee you they will be even better next year as they are always contacting players and turning over their roster. Why would EDP be strapped for teams? STA, SJEB, Marlton etc wont play soccer anymore?
Okay, what 10 teams do you have in the top edp division? Also, do you have to play in edp in order to qualify for NJ state cup?
11:27, a question like that on a U17 soccer talk board does not require an answer, but you did make me laugh.
With the new birth year rules going into effect many teams are going to have issues. If they are made up of 99's and '98 they could easily come apart. The '98's are rising Srs. and if they are not recruited by colleges they may well decide to not play next year after the high school season is over. This could drive the '99 to play with the younger teams. There are also '99s that are rising seniors who may also decide to not play club after HS season is over. We are at that point folks.
Not play club? If they are playing in college their coach will want them to play. If they are not playing in college it will be their last go around it will want to do it. Yes, you might lose a player or two but lets not get dramatic.
Tell that to SDFC...
SDFC will field a team, no need to worry.
I am sure they will try to piece something together.
anyone aware of any good tournaments this summer?
So i checked today to see who Marlboro and Holmdel will be playing at Nationals and I could not find a schedule. Is it out? Anyone have an idea of who is playing in that National?
How did Holmdel get into the National cup? I thought the winner of the State cup was the representative for that? Is there another way in?
Got in through winning the Regional tournament.
So you can lose the state tournament and then win some other tournament called the regionals - and get into the finals? Are the other state winners in the regionals? How do you make the regionals?
You send in a check and then you "guest up".
Please explain what you mean by "guest up...?"
Holmdel u did it fairly don't listen to this idiot. Good luck. U won regionals now u can move onto nationals.
US Club Nationals recognizes that by this time you have developed your team for the 2016/2017 season and does allow for those players to be added to your roster, in this case as a guest player. My sons team won Nationals 2 years ago by following those rules.
STA over Marlton despite the parents
How about cedar stars...whoa
Marlton is the worst
It's not fun playing in this hot,humid weather. I think it brings out the worst in people.
SDFC does not have their team for this tournament. Relax all
How many guest players are allowed? The teams have to be mostly the same players.
So let me take the best 4 off your team. What do you now have?
the same team because there are no superstars on my sons team. Every player is treated the same. Maybe your team should've moved down a flight if four players would change the team's results that much.
You are in denial.
I agree that every team has players on the top of the roster that are better then the players on the bottom of the roster. To suggest that they are all equal is crazy.
Take the best 4 off any team in any league all around the world...that team will struggle to get consistent positive results. Even if you were not at full strength and even though you were allegedly missing your "BEST" four players...it is an excuse. Rationalizing the fact you got beat by saying you were missing players is an excuse and weak minded. You have to compete with what you got when you got it and you won't always have your preferred starting 11. Tops teams have a ton of depth I thought???Win with grace and lose with grace my friends.
Marlboro or Holmdel....Which team goes further in Colorado?
Where does it state that the top four players were missing?
Field 8 is pretty far west so I guess Holmdel will go the farthest.
No one cares it's a fake national championship...stronghold won a couple years ago so anyone could win it
SDFC will not have a team next year at this age. Kids born in 99 can join the younger team. Kids born in 98 were told to find a new team. Doesn't seem fair for the older kids.
10:29, what team does your son play for? Did that team play in the NJ Cup? If so, would you be saying that if your sons team won? If not, then you are one of the very few as all the top teams did play in it with the exception of SDFC. SDFC has not won a state championship in any year so it seems they just have given up.
How many 98's does SDFC have on it?
9:20 MF didn't play In NJ Cup either. Leaving the door wide open for Marlboro to advance.
Actually MF did, they had a conflict so they forfeited. To your point however MF would have made it a more difficult path. However, MF and Marlboro did play this year, Marlboro winning 2-0 so maybe your point is not so great after all.
Did it help Marlboro that MF couldn't manage it's schedule? Yes, but you have to give credit where credit is due and Marlboro won the games they needed to win and beat a good SJB team in the semis and a very good SSC team in the finals to move on. Holmdel played in the regionals, as you all could have done, and they too did what they had to do. They earned their way into the finals also. MF had a great year, Marlboro had a great year, Holmdel fought their way back to relevance and had a great year too.
SDFC breaking up is not a surprise. Diva forward, commitment issues all around
That really isn't fair. A couple Diva parents maybe but the boys all are just fine together.
Diva parents mean diva kids. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Predictions for the 2 national tournaments:US Club: NYSCUSYS (the real Nat'l): Pipeline
8:46 I've seen both teams up close. Hard to argue.
They are both real. Good luck to all actually still playing
As nj wished the best for MF at regionals nj is behind holmdel and marlbiro now
Good for NJ. People say Nj is a top area for talent.
Marlboro will play a very good team today. I will be surprised if they come out with a W
Really?!, a really good team. They play a team that is ranked 1,140 in the country today. Yesterday they dominated a team the is ranked 789 in the country. I know these rankings can be off a bit, but that's way off. Let's stop comparing the two national championships. There is no comparison. NONE! Ps holmdel plays a really good team today. One of very few in the tournament.
Tougher tournaments played at Tuckahoe Tirf Farms...
You would know!
Competition at nationals has been great. Better then region1 regionals, not even close
We went to nationals two years ago and the level of play was great. To the point above region 1 has weak teams in their regional play also. Who can't beat Maine NJ NH Vermont WPA WV. Don't get caught up in gotsoccer points with us club as these teams are usually mega teams formed with multiple teams. Just a different venue and experience
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