OK, what happens after pool play??
I said look at their schedule and their scheduled games are weak. Any more name calling me wrong again
Strange argument. MF does not have a very hard regional schedule but they always play great teams. They play a very strong Edp schedule where they lost one game to a team that has won 3 out of the last 6 state titles MF I hope you do well, NJ is on your side
MF wins again
MF through to the semis, where they will likely play a really good Loudoun team from VA. If they are fortunate to get through the semis, there will be one of four of the top teams in the country waiting for them. That's a tough road to Texas.
Yes, to pretend that this is on the same scale as US Club is just silly. Not only do you have to win the State, you have to get through regionals which has 5 of the top 10 teams in the NATION playing. Good luck to Marlboro and Holmdel though. We'll be pulling for you!
6:41 is right. Good for NJ to be well represented though. Holmdel has had a good year. Marlboro has had a good year. MatchFit has had a good year. These are 3 very strong sides.
Region 1 semis all set. Massapequa v Pipeline and Loudoun SC v MFA.
4 of the best teams in the country.
US club winner. MarlboroNJYS winner. Matchfitwhat would happen if they played?
The quality of the teams are similar. MF just has a bigger rep because they spend more time and money traveling to a lot of tournaments. The four teams mentioned are four of the best teams in the country but they also are four teams that spend the most money.
Tough way to go out but it is what it is
Not from MF, but quality of teams are not the same in US Club. Every top team enters NJYS, not every enter US Club. Agree more money involved in NJYS - part of Region 1 league and/or National league, but completion in those leagues are top notch. Do not want to diminish Marlboro - they are a great team and had a great season and are as good as teams competing in Regionals. But if each team is honest, they much rather make it to Texas over Colorado. Tough luck MF but congratulations on a terrific tournament.
Agreed, Texas is the preferred destination but that should not diminish US Club and their title. It is not as prestigious but the work and path is very difficult also. MF, SSC, STA, SJB, all had an opportunity to move on but didnt. MF is the best NJ club team and deserved to represent NJ in regionals but to get through to the semis in regionals was no great feat, I think even MF would admit that they were the better team in each game and should have won. Losing to Loudon does not make MF a bad team, just means they lost a game. MF would represent NJ very well in Nationals if given the opportunity, I am very sure of that. Marlboro will now have the same opportunity in Colorado, and if they win it all that still doesnt mean they are better then MF but it will mean they had a hell of a season. If they dont advance, it will not take away from their season either, if your team beat them this year you are one of the very few. NJ should be proud of the teams they produce. SSC, STA, SDFC, SJB, maybe even Marlton could all show well in a regional/national tournament.
Last NJ National Champion in this group = Stronghold.
Ancient history. Is SSC staying together or are they done?
Why would they be done? Do they have a lot of seniors?
SSC has no seniors, Team will be even stronger next year
That won't be hard
Question is will they show up to play their games??Who will coach? Can't have same guy back
All Stronghold experts I see. You don't know why anything happened and to be clear you most likely never will. Two State Cup finals matches this year and you want to say it was a bad year? Name another team that accomplished that.
SSC is a good team with some good/very good players. That doesn't change the fact that the coach is an ass and should be held accountable for his behavior.
Do the SSC parents and players have a problem with the coach? If not, then it is not an issue.
I don't know what league they will be in. I would think EDP is not too happy with the coach and the way the team folded up early this year.
So EDP wont take their money? Come on now
Edp will be so strapped for good teams next year, they might even have to take NJX.
That certainly must have been a joke. Holmdel, are they even called NJX anymore, is a very good team and I guarantee you they will be even better next year as they are always contacting players and turning over their roster. Why would EDP be strapped for teams? STA, SJEB, Marlton etc wont play soccer anymore?
Okay, what 10 teams do you have in the top edp division? Also, do you have to play in edp in order to qualify for NJ state cup?
11:27, a question like that on a U17 soccer talk board does not require an answer, but you did make me laugh.
With the new birth year rules going into effect many teams are going to have issues. If they are made up of 99's and '98 they could easily come apart. The '98's are rising Srs. and if they are not recruited by colleges they may well decide to not play next year after the high school season is over. This could drive the '99 to play with the younger teams. There are also '99s that are rising seniors who may also decide to not play club after HS season is over. We are at that point folks.
Not play club? If they are playing in college their coach will want them to play. If they are not playing in college it will be their last go around it will want to do it. Yes, you might lose a player or two but lets not get dramatic.
Tell that to SDFC...
SDFC will field a team, no need to worry.
I am sure they will try to piece something together.
anyone aware of any good tournaments this summer?
So i checked today to see who Marlboro and Holmdel will be playing at Nationals and I could not find a schedule. Is it out? Anyone have an idea of who is playing in that National?
How did Holmdel get into the National cup? I thought the winner of the State cup was the representative for that? Is there another way in?
Got in through winning the Regional tournament.
So you can lose the state tournament and then win some other tournament called the regionals - and get into the finals? Are the other state winners in the regionals? How do you make the regionals?
You send in a check and then you "guest up".
Please explain what you mean by "guest up...?"
Holmdel u did it fairly don't listen to this idiot. Good luck. U won regionals now u can move onto nationals.
US Club Nationals recognizes that by this time you have developed your team for the 2016/2017 season and does allow for those players to be added to your roster, in this case as a guest player. My sons team won Nationals 2 years ago by following those rules.
STA over Marlton despite the parents
How about cedar stars...whoa
Marlton is the worst
It's not fun playing in this hot,humid weather. I think it brings out the worst in people.
SDFC does not have their team for this tournament. Relax all
How many guest players are allowed? The teams have to be mostly the same players.
So let me take the best 4 off your team. What do you now have?
the same team because there are no superstars on my sons team. Every player is treated the same. Maybe your team should've moved down a flight if four players would change the team's results that much.
You are in denial.
I agree that every team has players on the top of the roster that are better then the players on the bottom of the roster. To suggest that they are all equal is crazy.
Take the best 4 off any team in any league all around the world...that team will struggle to get consistent positive results. Even if you were not at full strength and even though you were allegedly missing your "BEST" four players...it is an excuse. Rationalizing the fact you got beat by saying you were missing players is an excuse and weak minded. You have to compete with what you got when you got it and you won't always have your preferred starting 11. Tops teams have a ton of depth I thought???Win with grace and lose with grace my friends.
Marlboro or Holmdel....Which team goes further in Colorado?
Where does it state that the top four players were missing?
Field 8 is pretty far west so I guess Holmdel will go the farthest.
No one cares it's a fake national championship...stronghold won a couple years ago so anyone could win it
SDFC will not have a team next year at this age. Kids born in 99 can join the younger team. Kids born in 98 were told to find a new team. Doesn't seem fair for the older kids.
10:29, what team does your son play for? Did that team play in the NJ Cup? If so, would you be saying that if your sons team won? If not, then you are one of the very few as all the top teams did play in it with the exception of SDFC. SDFC has not won a state championship in any year so it seems they just have given up.
How many 98's does SDFC have on it?
9:20 MF didn't play In NJ Cup either. Leaving the door wide open for Marlboro to advance.
Actually MF did, they had a conflict so they forfeited. To your point however MF would have made it a more difficult path. However, MF and Marlboro did play this year, Marlboro winning 2-0 so maybe your point is not so great after all.
Did it help Marlboro that MF couldn't manage it's schedule? Yes, but you have to give credit where credit is due and Marlboro won the games they needed to win and beat a good SJB team in the semis and a very good SSC team in the finals to move on. Holmdel played in the regionals, as you all could have done, and they too did what they had to do. They earned their way into the finals also. MF had a great year, Marlboro had a great year, Holmdel fought their way back to relevance and had a great year too.
SDFC breaking up is not a surprise. Diva forward, commitment issues all around
That really isn't fair. A couple Diva parents maybe but the boys all are just fine together.
Diva parents mean diva kids. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Predictions for the 2 national tournaments:US Club: NYSCUSYS (the real Nat'l): Pipeline
8:46 I've seen both teams up close. Hard to argue.
They are both real. Good luck to all actually still playing
As nj wished the best for MF at regionals nj is behind holmdel and marlbiro now
Good for NJ. People say Nj is a top area for talent.
Marlboro will play a very good team today. I will be surprised if they come out with a W
Really?!, a really good team. They play a team that is ranked 1,140 in the country today. Yesterday they dominated a team the is ranked 789 in the country. I know these rankings can be off a bit, but that's way off. Let's stop comparing the two national championships. There is no comparison. NONE! Ps holmdel plays a really good team today. One of very few in the tournament.
Tougher tournaments played at Tuckahoe Tirf Farms...
You would know!
Competition at nationals has been great. Better then region1 regionals, not even close
We went to nationals two years ago and the level of play was great. To the point above region 1 has weak teams in their regional play also. Who can't beat Maine NJ NH Vermont WPA WV. Don't get caught up in gotsoccer points with us club as these teams are usually mega teams formed with multiple teams. Just a different venue and experience
Congratulations Marlboro for winning and Holmdel for great showings. NJ soccer is tops
Just saw this. Good work by NJ
Marlboro came back with 20 minutes to go to tie it up and ended up winning in penalties... Brutal
How is that brutal? Did they comeback from 3 goals down?
Nice job by both teams. Not the US soccer nationals but still a great achievement by both. Still a state tournament that my sons team entered and didn't win
Holmdel didn't win the state tournament either. Never realized you could go to the nationals after losing your state tournament. Very odd. Yes they are a good team - but they basically proved again by losing to Marlboro that they weren't the best team from NJ. I bet there are some other NJ teams that would have liked a second chance.
Are you kidding. Every team had the opportunity to advance through regionals. Some tried and failed others failed to try. Holmdel beat a great team from California to earn the right to be in the finals. Played to a tie and lost in penalty kicks. Great play from Holmdel and Marlboro. Who do you play for?
If MF didn't drop out they would have gone to nationals for NJ. Marlboro would have lost to them.
Why didn't MF play in the regional tournament? If you they that, they would've gone to club nationals and competed. Is there a rule saying a team can't enter both USYS and US club nationals?
MF so full of yourselves. Marlboro bring atleast 4 NJCSA Academy players. Congratulations NJCSA!
Must be rough to be one of the kids who played all year long and didn't get invited to go to Colo.
Marlboro won. Every team at nationals brought guest players as new teams are formed by July. It is natural, common and expected. No Marlboro player lost a starting position or lost playtime due to guest players Can that be said for the other teams? Rules for each competition are laid out in black and white To the MF poster I think you need to take a step back as you couldn't even beat Marlboro without a guest player I think they took care of business as needed
Baltimore Celtic, Loudoun SC, Pipeline and SeattleCOPA. Now that's a great group of teams. They're competing in the usys semi finals. How in the hell can you, Marlboro or holmdel compare yourself to any of those teams?! Really, you just come off as foolish trying. Marlboro, how can you say that kids weren't effected by you loading up your team with 4 guest players? Better than 20% of your roster was changed. Teams don't change in July, really?! Justify it all you want, that tournament is a farce.
At least Holmdel beat a really good Golden State team. Marlboro and it cast of guest really beat nobody worth talking about. I've seen both play. Marlboro has a win at all cost attitude and doesn't care about development AT ALL. Holmdel has a much better team, it's not close.
Yet they lost and you are still whining
Everyone chill. Both teams did well and both deserve respect. When you get out of regional Matchfit let us know
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The reason you bring 4-5 players to guest player during any tournament is because you simply don't believe the guys you have are capable of getting the job done without help. Maybe you bring guests who are looking to try out for your team. Or you bring players that you know will never suit up for you in any season because they are carded at a better higher level. It's a flawed system to allow this to happen. Disagree with my opinion all you want but I believe it to be sad and borderline embarrassing to win knowing that 4-5 players will never commit to the team. It's shameful on behalf of the actual team players who have worked as hard as they can year after year to be pushed to the sideline so effortlessly in their biggest moment. Congratulations on your national championship Marlboro...great job pulling in the reinforcements necessary to win.
Clueless you are. Don't know the facts but that is ok. No one complained about the 4 players not able to attend. No one complained about the fact that every team has new players. Keep crying
Agree with 314. If you have players who can't come you bring guest. Did the other teams bring guests. I wish my team had this problem we would have done the same thing
An all region 1 final in the real national championship. By far the best region in the country.
Crazy how MD played MD in the semis yet this is the real championship lol
2 of the top 10 teams in the nation. Bunch of D1 players on both teams.
Agreed both very good teams but it doesn't change the idiotic statement of why are there two NJ teams in the finals in Colorado. Point being it happens when they play the best.
Congrats to Marlboro and to Holmdel also. For those that choose to be negative,well your jealousy shines through. NY would be thrilled to have 2 teams representing us in any national tournament
A lot of good teams in the NY/NJ region. Congratulations to all.
Louden- VA not MD
Hey, July 28th at 6:38. Let us know if you ever make it to regionals. But you won't, we play in that tournament. Last year we lost in OT to eventual National champs and this year lost in PKs to National finalist. Region 1 is fantastic, those teams are really good but you wouldn't know that, you've never played them.
MF just cant let it go. We all know, no one is better then you are. Region 1 is great, and there are many teams that can, have and would beat you. No one ever said you were not a great team, you just can help but saying it yourself too. Remember, you went undefeated in nothing you did.
Get over yourselves at matchfit please. Please learn to accept that others have found success where you have not as we understand that you have success in other venues. As it is now you just seem like jealous SOB's.
Is 9:15 a jealous MF parent that can’t get over the fact that your team has been bitten by the National Cup Champion Marlboro (actually twice in the last 14 months)? Please don’t forget that very recently MF was a really bad academy team which dropped to club level to look somewhat decent. If you are so desperate for fake recognition I suggest dropping another flight where you might look like real kings.
Looks like the dailey rhetoric continues at Match unfit.
I heard that SDFC's coach went to Cedar Stars. What's happening with their team for next year? Has the team broken up?
Stronghold losing many players also, might be difficult to field a team.
Why is Stronghold losing many players? Where are they going?
Hopefully they are going to college and getting on with their lives. Do you want them to play 60 minute games on small sided fields forever? LOL.
what does that mean. small sided for 60?
So do these college players play high school soccer and then stop playing competitively until their college season starts months later. High school ends then forget about winter training, spring games and start playing with your college teams end of summer? Players won't be in top condition or form to contribute in college unless they play games. So why are all teams folding out of existence and college is the reason? I don't understand...
Some 98's have graduated HS and are moving on. Even if they didn't' they may have committed to colleges by next spring. They're finished with youth soccer and if their playing in college, the teams have their own preseason conditioning. A lot of youth tournaments are played on small fields with shortened games which is a disappointment to players, parents and coaches. Many of my son's practice sessions were on small patches of fields shared with other teams. We're glad to move on. Not hard to understand.
Are you a college coach? If not, don't speak for them. I talked to many college coaches and not one said anything about playing in the summer.They're only concerned with their team.
I can't begin to tell you how wrong you are. That's ok though keep living I Rec soccer world
You're a youth coach who wants to keep the pay checks coming in as long as possible. Keep living in your pay to play world.
My brother plays college soccer. I think I know the facts
College players do play in the summer. Who says they don't?
It is very common that while you are in college you play on a U23 type team in the summer. While you are visiting colleges and speaking to the coaches most will ask what you plan on doing in the summer months and will speak specifically about it. Not sure where you got your information but you should look more deeply into it. You also sound very bitter as you attacked a poster who seemingly was just trying to help.
Where was the trying to help part? It must've been in the comment that was removed.
Any coaches fielding calls from SSC, Holmdel, and SDFC players? Seems teams do break apart at this level.
Holmdel has received calls from a number of players some SDFC and Players from other clubs, will cap team at 22 players most likely. Some players are done after many years of playing, some don't want the commitment, others looking to play a competitive schedule. It's all good.
Why would anyone come to you if you have 22 on the roster? Can only roster 18 for a game and all 18 cant get real playtime. There are many teams out there, no need to pay and not play.
Top level EDP players are ripping it up during the HS season. Good luck the rest of the way.
I hope so or all the money and time spent on club soccer over the years would be a for nothing.
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