DA vs ECNL is very different by region. The best way to judge how is the competition within your division is to see what the division did in Florida vs teams from different regions. Our division had one team that was below .500.
It is clear that ECNL is weaker this year. DA is definitely pulling a lot of talent away but there are still some teams that are very strong that did not adjust their ecnl teams. SoCal Blues and Michhigan Hawks 02 teams are an example. I think you guys have sort of a recency bias or a region bias. The northeast has 2 real top quality DA teams. PDA and PF. Funny thing is they were the top 2 ECNL programs too.
One thing for sure is that the quality of play has gone down as the talent that was already too thin became even thinner esp in NJ.
I think DA should have been 20-40 teams. Nj should have one Nj/ny should have one and Long island should have one. All major cities should have 1-2 based on size and strength of region. But 70 is far too many.
They are the two best in the Atlantic after them its weak. North East is very weak. Southeast is strong. What I am saying is Ecnl beating north east DA teams is not that great. Neither are very strong because the spread the talent pool too thin. Pf and pda can beat any ecnl team on the east coast.
The midwest region is deep and strong. Socal is very deep norcal not so much.
Im using data from the Florida inter regional tournament not speculation. Im not sure any teams in the northeast were over .500. Only pf and pda in atlantic.
FC VA has kids that didn't play in the league games because they were playing hs. Didn't they win the DA bracket at the PF tourney? Would not count them out. This next round could be very interesting as hs kids are back on most teams.
11:36 i disagree. FC VA has several very good teams especially with kids coming back from hs. would love to see the mclean vs. FC VA matches. think many FC VA teams would win.
FCV DA is a good team, we tied them 1-1 this past season, PF also very good, tough and fast. And to the guy who is only using the Florida event to gauge talent, hope you don’t give financial advice in real life....
Its different for every family, but for us, it was all about the training. Her previous situation was not preparing her for D1 soccer, and she sure-as-shit is a D1 player. Her old team had lots of favoritism going on, and minutes were based on who you know, not how well you play. 0001. chance of you understanding this, and 0001. chance of me caring to explain anymore. ECNL parents simply cannot wrap their minds around the fact that they are now the B league, and all I can say is keep on wrapping...
3:00 PM Right on, Right on, Right on... Parents take a lot of sideways glances when trying to do what's best for your kid. It's about realizing potential and being honest with yourself. Sometimes the bold move is to stay and then support your decision. The problem is we all think we need to prove our decision by tearing down others. ECNL is not the B League, it's an option. But it's an option for Clubs to gouge more $$ from gullible parents. ECNL used to be the most expensive trinket on the soccer mom's Pandora bracelet, now that there is a new gem there's new bragging rights. DA/ECNL/NPL it's all alphabet soup that will eventually have you looking back and saying either, "I enjoyed the time with my daughter and the friends we made" or for the 99.999 % of dreamers wondering where it went wrong and why is my daughter playing soccer on Whichever State U or D3 just so you can validate the 30K you spent over the last 4 years.
Lol, keep telling yourself that DA is the A league. Our ECNL teams (s) are beating and tying our DA teams and our DA teams are top 3 in their perspective groups. My daughters DA team has a lot of outstanding “individual” talent but lack any team cohesion. It takes chemistry to make a team good not a couple NT players.
Its the A league around here, because our ECNL teams are not great, but I don’t care about teams, just my little princess, and she eats ECNL girls for lunch....
Do you know how I know the DA is the A-league? Because when the college girls come for supplemental training they play with our teams, not the ECNL B-league teams....
You guys sound kind of pathetic (specifically the DA dad). Was your own athletic career not what you had hoped so you have to argue about whether DA or ECNL girls soccer is better? Just enjoy your daughter’s experience as it will be over before you know it.
It's all about where you are...DA is good in some places and not in others. ECNL is good in some places and not in others. We choose as we see fit for our daughters, our wallet and our travel time. "my daughter's club is better than yours" is a little sad....
11:07 and 7:27, are you the same blogger? If not, you must be his clone. I am one of the old-guard here, and you both sound like gun-stealing, left-wing newbies, which is beyond insufferable.
As I mentioned previously, I have to deal with ECNL d-bags quite a bit, without cause they attack DA, maybe its because I have betrayed their trust, and did what was best for my kid??
3:26 one correction - shared cross league play for the champion of the USSDA division only. They will play club format - they only plays USSDA club teams in league play.
Tournaments it's just like everyone else - depends on your flight.
Don't forget ECNL and USSDA both have National events that have league impact in addition to being a showcase. You can't have these teams playing outside clubs.
5:15 I don't think it's a mess we are in line with the rest of the world when it comes to soccer (birth year) - there is a clear TOP of the pyramid league run by the USA Federation for talent. If players want to use it it's up to them. This won't be in an issue in 5 years.
After what happened at PDA tourney, if you don't see that ECNL Board (PDA, Stars, Hawks, etc.) just want it there way and control all of it. USSF/GDA wasn't giving it to them. Read the Pied Piper before next year, you'll see the similarities. Enjoy.
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5:15 the top 5 kids in the state want to have that chance. Once they move to a different team to have that opportunity the team is a totally different beast. The 2-3 players that switch the team: attract coaches to showcase, have the team play is a better showcase bracket, pull other kids with them
At this age MF is disappointing. Club seems to be doing well at other ages, especially 03 and 04 groups who showed big improvements. 01s also made the playoffs, so all in all a success I would guess.
The 2004 and 2003 kids switched to play GDA. The gains made by MF in those age groups are masked by the fact that they are playing B teams from WC, Albertsons, PDA, Stars. And also other top teams left the league - Breakers, Penn Fusion.
I am an ECNL'er, I will agree that the 2003 and 2004 age group did take a hit. I am curious to see how next year folds. I see many players coming back to ECNL for next year. Unsure how this will turn out tho
PDA will do well in 2003 but starting with 2004 they are DOA. Huge PDA-CSA rivalry this year with a number of PDA kids already moving to CSA.
Looking from ‘training’ perspective it’s the same amount of money for 33%-50% less training, plus PDA typically carries 22 players per team. Travel is worse, and local competition the same, but national competition and college exposure just pales in comparison.
MF congrats on making the showcase. You are ranked 15th in the showcase. This is a huge accomplishment. DOC and ECNL Director posting you guys are GOING to Seattle. Way to go. Great season!
MF dad are you not on blog anymore. did you jump off a bridge with all those broken promises? Hope you have time to jump ship and head to PDA like rest of your so called players you guys had.
i agree the Match Fit parents have nothing to blog about. so many months of negativity, how your team will win vs this team, how PDA and WC suck. Seems there has been some realization that you and your team suck!
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NY Da team vs 2001 team would be a slight edge to NYCFC. NY DA team vs 2002 ECNL, sorry no comparison. 2002 ECNL team is by far the best team in Orangeburg. Before you state I am from WC. I am not. From Long Island, know these teams very well
Hahahaha, they actually scrimmaged last week, for about 40 minutes, 2-0 DA, then practice ended, was fun to watch, both really good squads, good luck to all.
USSDA - NORTHEAST (13 teams) MA: Boston Breakers Academy CT: Oakwood Soccer Club NY: Empire United NY: FC Fury NY NY: Long Island SC NY: New York City FC NY: Sky Blue - NYSC NJ: Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth PA: PA Classics PA: Penn Fusion Soccer Academy MD: Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour VA: Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia VA: FC Virginia
ECNL Northeast Conference (13 teams) MA: FC Boston MA: FC Stars CT: Connecticut FC CT: FSA FC NY: East Meadow FC NY: SUSA NY: World Class FC NJ: Match Fit Academy NJ: PDA PA: Continental FC PA: FC Bucks MD: Bethesda SC MD: Maryland United
ECNL Mid-Atlantic (11 teams) VA: BRYC Elite Academy VA: Loudon SC VA: McLean YSA VA: Richmond United VA: Virginia Development Academy NC: Carolina Rapids NC: NC Fusion NC: NCFC Youth NC: Wilmington Hammerheads SC: Carolina Elite Soccer Academy SC: South Carolina United
By just looking at the above list you can see why USSDA failed in season 1. Their map was based on the Boys side. They forgot the Boys side never had a league as strong as the ECNL already filling the void of top soccer.
1st - prior to USSDA the 3 NY ECNL clubs weren't the strongest - so they added another 2 - sorry but this isn't the boys side - NY just doesn't have the player pool for 5 Academy teams.
2nd Oakwood is nice but 3 top teams in CT? No way a CT team can pull away CFC and FSA.
3rd Look at the PA teams PennFusion is nice but they are already pulling from PA Classics territory - all you did there was create in-fighting. Instead of adding a PA team to an area not covered.
3:55 There is no U18 age in the ECNL. SO the clubs that have a deep Senior player pool will have 2 ECNL teams. Didn't know PDA was adding a 3rd. At least that will even out the teams from 13 to 14.
3:57 I don't think Arlington is Full, just younger ages.
There will be 2 ECNL teams at PDA North. Also in other ECNL founder clubs that left GDA - Eclipse, Hawks, Stars.
Moreover, PDA South parents reported in a different forum that they were also promised ECNL - right after the rumor of SJEB getting GDA surfaced. So it would be a crazy thing if PDA would just happen to add 2 ECNL teams in NJ after blocking applications from other teams for so many years.
SJEB Rush was granted DA for girls in the up coming year. Not sure what is going to happen if noone is interested. Are they going to be forced to play?
Maybe a bunch of PDA South kids will be motivated to join SJEB.
Not sure why people praise HS ball game. Play quality is good only if you are lucky to be in a large enough school district with rich people.
Based on my daughter’s results it has negative impact on academics as well - a full grade lower for classes at the end of the day when kids are pulled out to play a game - compared to spring. Injuries pile up without any rest as well.
Team spirit is very good. And in general club players get positive social status on the field and in school.
SJEB/Rush won't force them to play. DA already understands at this point 03,02,01 teams are already involved with HS soccer. The 05 and 06 teams will most likely be the DA for SJEB/Rush for this upcoming year. Any "03,02,01 players who show up for their ID session tonight and next week will be considered candidates for the DA program only. At this point any players who can play at a high level already are content with their present team. I would assume VERY light turnout for the ID sessions. No PDA players from the south team will be attending. But, if you were among one of the 200+ people who attended the PDA Ajax and SJEB/Rush game this past Sunday, a combination of those two teams would be scary. Truly great soccer was played on both sides. Game was 0-0 in reg, double OT, and 7-6 in PKs going to PDA.
Two things will dictate where kids end up. One is whether or not they want to give up ALL hs sports. Two is whether ECNL or the DA wins out with College Coaches. One would imagine the better all around athletes will end up at PDA South. The second factor is still working itself out... coaches are everywhere. Final note: Kids and parents prefer ECNL but the DA is being force fed to all.
So the country club is finally opening their doors to soccer low-lifes, how sad for you 6:11, so sad that your grip on the top league has vanished, so sad, I really feel bad, perhaps LAX is more your speed, its a little less physical, like you.
We had lots of coaches at both Florida and NC events, including coaches that were not even registered on the list. Each game had at least 40 (rain) and 80+ on a good day. Top D1 and Ivy coaches. Caveat is, we played very good competition. Some of our friends were not top billing and told us of 10-30 coaches per game.
Its under 500.. yes- overall for a club that is dealing with DA in their backyard. I am actually surprised of their record, much better than I would have guessed in beginning of year.
Your U16 team still not able to compete with their U16 team.
Group A has some very top teams including WC. I would like to see how that Group pans out
Who cares about the club. The club didn't get those kids committed. Bottom line is the WC team is better than MF and PDA 02's. I couldn't even tell you how the other age groups are doing at WC. Means nothing to my kid. Find something better than overall club record tongobat JE's team. Glad you were all left behind
Yes, WCFC has been a victim of GDA- flight, except the 02 ECNL team, heard only 2-3 left for GDA from that team. The other age groups are poor, no way around that, look for this to continue.
World Class younger teams will be fine. 06s are very good, 05s are very good plus the obvious of 02s. Will need work in other age groups tho.
With many of the clubs heading back to ECNL, the league will be much tougher. Teams like Match Fit benefited last year, will have a harder time this coming year.
Match Fit only qualified for Nationals for 04s and 03s, the 2 age group's that ended up being the hardest hit by DA this year. Next year, should change in those age groups with players heading back to ECNL.
Nobody is heading back to ECNL by choice, moronic parents are following their clubs, it’s not about listening to the families, it’s about not wanting oversight from USSF, that and why spend 10 months training when you can charge the same amount for 6...
It depends on who you ask, no? The DA families that I know are happy with the training, who cares about game results, its completely irrelevant to being recruited. The ECNL clubs were compelled to not charge more, as that is counter to the entire concept. If they could of, they would of...and honestly don't give a crap if you don’t buy it, as you sound like the douche who is always on here bashing GDA, probably the WCFC fat-ass, that walks around pretending to be important, but all you are is fat.
Actually I am a DA parent, I left to go back to ECNL. Personally I felt the level of competition was very poor for an elite league. I also disagree with the 4 days a week of practices. Typically 2 practices a week were basically just kids killing time with meaningless drills.
As far of kids not leaving for ECNL, is false. I know that many players that my daughter played against in early 2017 did head back to ECNL, with more not coming back next year.
Impossible, as there are NO fat DA parents, or you are asked to leave because of your disgusting obese self, either way, happy to be rid of you, enjoy Paramus HS soccer!
Believe what you like, but WCFC ECNL has a big problem, even with their younger teams, the better players are opting for DA. Those families can clearly see the difference at practice, and the quality of players being produced. Not sure how this is going to resolve itself, it’s a conflict for them, no doubt.
Believe what you want, NYCFC may not be in existence next year. I attended a session for my 2 daughters. 02/03 team did not have many players trying out. The 2006 team seems to not to have enough players for next year. Coach F is calling me continuously trying to sell me the world. From what I gathered, may only have 10 girls committed for next year. We are not looking to change to a DA format
Just heard that USSF is going to cover the additional costs, for hotel and airfare, for all teams that qualify or the quarter-finals. And they are also going to pay all expense for the 4 Finalists in July at GDA Finals in KC, Mo. Not sure about you, but that is pretty cool. My kid plays RL, so no personal interest, but ECNL should do the same, if not, not good.
Before anyone jumps for joy in this forum, please check the record of our local teams against seeds 9-16 at showcases. Remember, in groups stage teams from same division cant be in the same group.
So unless by some stroke of luck mid-atlantic plays against a northeast team - one of them is bound to go through. So let's wait until the draw. Maybe U16/17 PF also stands a chance. PDA lucky with 8th seed, but just too inconsistent losses to Spirit and Boston Breakers?)
In the meantime, the only bet I can place is on the U18-19 PDA team making in the quarters. The rest have inflated records based on sub-par division competition.
PDA 16/17 will have it's YNT's back for the playoffs. Wonder if US Soccer will have camps during their playoffs like they did during ECNL playoffs making kids have to choose. Heard about some squads where some seniors are bailing out. Anyone else hear about that.
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12:39 Either you can't read or you're a crappy troll.
-- The PDP Northeast (North) is a makeup event and will be held on June 9-10, 2018, in Lancaster, MA at FC Stars Complex, with some of the best players from the following ECNL clubs in the Northeast conference: Albertson Fury, Connecticut FC, East Meadow SC, FC Boston, FC Stars, and FSA FC. --
The WCFC was a part of the event in March: https://docs.google.com/document/d/144GzSpMvW4I_VftpX1X3IsIjV1880iUJ87AZdDWcmNM/edit
Oops, sorry WCFC, thought you guys had some quality players, my bad. Btw my daughter is on the list, she plays for CFC, remember her, the one you could not mark, hahaha.
seriously? doesn't WCFC have a GDA? And you're talking about ECNL? okay. Congratulations to all the kids in post season in all the leagues; PDP events; continuing in cups or regionals, etc.
My daughter's is top. No my daughter is in the top league. No mine is. Find something better to discuss. If she's committed or close to getting committed then that's great.
I just heard that more DA Clubs ( 8-10 ) are announcing they are leaving after the playoff concluded. You can say that this is about the money blah blah, this had to reflect the overall level of play for these clubs to be pulling out. Oh Man, I am part of the DA, this will cripple the league for years personally. Not good
Clubs I heard Top Hat Real Colorado So Cal Blue FC Dallas Concorde CrossFire Premier West Coast FC San Diego Surf Eagles Soccer Club
Blah blah blah, exactly, it’s obviously less money for them, and too much oversight. Not surprised, in this country it’s not about quality, it’s about quantity. My daughters club is returning, but for us, it’s not for the best.
Who told you? It would be difficult to imagine as Most of the clubs listed have had tryouts for GDA teams. The clubs that left were all on the ECNL board/founding members.
Also nothing mentioned on the SOCal soccer forums which are typically legit.
Here we are, at the end of a historic inaugural season, the lull before the storm. It was the best of times, and worst of times, as my daughter continues her journey. Regardless of the results next week, we feel like winners, and given the totality of events, that is more than okay for us.
OH stop already. At PDA the ECNL teams tie and beat the DA teams regularly. In each group at each age there are only like 3 good teams. the rest suck! The DA is a joke! Now with the Barons and we hear Copa getting DA, even more of a joke! Good luck in SanDiego you DA dopes!
The 02’s, 03’s, 04’s DA teams lose or tie to their ECNL counterparts frequently! The 02 PDA South NPL team is better then the 01-02 DA team! DA is a joke, just keep telling yourselves the DA is the top league!
7:14 - hey PDA parent. you're funny. clearly you don't play GDA. you're ECNL teams are not very good as compared to your GDA teams. the game speed is much faster. but keep selling your wares. misery always likes company.
Why would you compare American youth soccer to any other place? Is there any other place where families have to pay in excess of 5000 bucks for the privilege of wearing the "colors"? Corrupts the entire environment and is not analogous to other places.
Of course the people on the board of directors for ecnl are going to tout ecnl. How do they justify the optics of their business decision to leave gda league in full otherwisw. It is like the fable. Guess those grapes arent good anyway. They won't tell you it is about $$$ not development. Sheep.
What a load of crap. Anyone that has ever been to the SoCal complex, can tell you that the fields: 16, 6, 5, 17 and 18 are the worst fields. https://www.socalsportscomplex.com/the-fields
PDA is already getting shafted by their management, and now PDA girls are getting screwed over by the USGDA. Thanks.
my daughter will, she enjoys her HS friends. More importantly playing for the better league come November. Oh yea, she will enjoy her college commitment after that
Which begs the question. If ECNL is a 2-3 division league - why bother going across the continent to play play B- teams at a pay-to-play showcase event. It’s possible more teams will leave in the future, but next year may be the decider. Again following the logic that clubs presented to parents ‘we are leaving because the division is weak’ but now have to admit ‘division is strong but league is weak’. Total nonsense.
I’ve heard PDA is also offering all year program for those who don’t want to play HS. I wonder what’s the extra cost of that program.
Beliefs are for the folks that try to sell you snake oil.
There is evidence that best clubs in current GDA are remaining in GDA. (15 top 20 RPI)
There is evidence that more D1 college coaches are attending GDA events than ECNL events (lists are out on respective sites for last 2 showcases)
There is evidence that the GDA divisions around north/east are the weakest with teams that should not be there.
- there are still lots of clubs/teams outside of ECNL/GDA that could compete within either league - there is no evidence that any of these organizations will cooperate
If 30-50 coaches are at your games during showcase events.. all is well. Regardless of the letters of your league. Why? - quality players are on the field. 02 kids need not worry about anything else. To compare the leagues if fruitless for these age groups.
6 colleges from PAC 12 and 4 from ACC (with just 1 head coach) @ECNL - if you are looking for "winning" colleges. Probably around 4/10 top 10 Colleges by eyeballing the listings.
So certainly the "winning" or "ivy" colleges are avoiding the ECNL showcase. Moreover, the assistant coaches that are listed on the ECNL site are also listed on the GDA site as being registered. They will either go to one.
8:11 am - 40+ schools at every game. Big 10, Ivy, etc. And for 99% of these kids it's the Academics that should matter. My point is once your beating teams at the top flights of tourneys on a regular basis coaches don't care which league your from. They want to win and want the best players. Kids want great academics and a competitive team.
You are aware that coach from a school needs to be at a showcase so your kid can be seen by that school? Otherwise you are being seen by a bunch of schools you don’t really want to attend, right?
Often a player finds a school they like after coach contact. Could be a school they have never heard of - or that they had the wrong impression about before visiting/researching. Comfort with the coaching staff also comes into play. So YES, those schools "you don't want to go to" could be where you go.
Just looked at the East Regionals aka Region 1 championships and noticed only 2 players both from Century are the only committed players in the tournament at U16. While at U17 there are 43 reported commits. Most impressive is the SJEB U17 team of the 21 players on their roster 17 have verbals only 2 2019s don't. Love them or hate them that's how it's done. Big roster, still winning and more important they placing their kids. This is why this club should have been awarded ECNL previously and GDA first time around.
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scrimmaged? Aren't those GDA teams in San Diego? Who would scrimmage in the middle of games? Sounds like fake news.
Congrats to the U18/U19's in the semi-finals today. Boston Breakers; LA Slammers; Solar Chelsea and Crossfire Premier.
Their age group completed bracket play yesterday and these 4 are playing for the hardware. Luckily they rested a lot of their top players for today since due to the amount of draws all 4 spots were clinched after the second game. I am surprised that there are back to back games like this in US Soccer playoffs? These games were very fast and physical. It was really amped up. I just got back.
On Friday the winner of the 1st GDA Playoff will be crowned. Like the league or not, we are witnessing history as far as girls soccer.
I saw really good games which is expected from end of the season and US Soccer. Only a few teams didn't travel with all or most of their Seniors, including Real So Cal that didn't have to travel very far. But all of the 4 in the semi's have their full squads including their natties.
Good luck to our Region 1 representatives Boston Breakers. And for all of you that support high school ball, many of their top players did play high school in the fall using the waiver.
So puts a dent in Stars and PDA's reason for returning to ECNL. It's not about high school. It's about the money people. It's about the money.
circling back as my kid is still playing out there in the U16/U17's, our Region 1 teams including U15's are doing well too. will update on those later.
PDA vs NYCFC game yesterday was phenomenal. They are a very talented squad, congrats to them! We only had 3 subs, and one of them was injured before, and during the game. PDA had an entire bench of subs, and at this time of year is a gigantic advantage. We played with 10 girls for the last 15 minutes, and left everything on the field. Good luck going forward, until next time!
Say what you want, but I give all the GDA players and their families huge credit, and respect. Most could of stayed on the safe side and played with their former teams, ECNL, NPL and USYS, but they chose the hard path, the path of uncertainty, and ALL have gained from this, especially my daughter. She has committed to a great D1 school, loves her team, and club, and can’t wait for September, when they do it all over again!!!
What's wrong with posting on facebook and giving credit or even bragging? Seems like some people are a little jealous? Who cares if they tweet, facebook, snapchat, instagram or whatever - like it or don't and move on. The people who have issues with that are usually the people who wish they can post the same stuff but can't.
This is going to be a very important year. the 2020s that don't get their offers this upcoming season, will not want to practice as much because it's no longer fun. It's easier to stop playing than admit they weren't as good as their parents thought. The parents will look for excuses blaming everything and everyone under the sun. The small clubs will not field teams the following season because these players will no longer want to play leaving the better 2021 players scrambling for a new team. If your kid is at a big club with many teams you are safe with a roster spot but look out for all these kids looking for a new team
PDA South is treated better than Guv Murphy's mother club. They got to take the corporate jet to Nationals and stay in the corporate ski chalet. All comp first class.
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why are you on this blog (02) bragging about 04's? that's great but why do we care?
Because you care, too...more than you know.
okay? didn't know that austin powers was on the blog; the international man of mystery.
10:42 well i care. that's great. is the list posted somewhere? want to see if i know others on it as well.
DA vs ECNL is very different by region. The best way to judge how is the competition within your division is to see what the division did in Florida vs teams from different regions. Our division had one team that was below .500.
It is clear that ECNL is weaker this year. DA is definitely pulling a lot of talent away but there are still some teams that are very strong that did not adjust their ecnl teams. SoCal Blues and Michhigan Hawks 02 teams are an example. I think you guys have sort of a recency bias or a region bias. The northeast has 2 real top quality DA teams. PDA and PF. Funny thing is they were the top 2 ECNL programs too.
One thing for sure is that the quality of play has gone down as the talent that was already too thin became even thinner esp in NJ.
I think DA should have been 20-40 teams. Nj should have one Nj/ny should have one and Long island should have one. All major cities should have 1-2 based on size and strength of region. But 70 is far too many.
3:33, you keep telling yourself that, PDA and PF are there top DA teams, just keep repeating to yourself....
isn't fc va in there as well?
They are the two best in the Atlantic after them its weak. North East is very weak. Southeast is strong. What I am saying is Ecnl beating north east DA teams is not that great. Neither are very strong because the spread the talent pool too thin. Pf and pda can beat any ecnl team on the east coast.
The midwest region is deep and strong. Socal is very deep norcal not so much.
Im using data from the Florida inter regional tournament not speculation. Im not sure any teams in the northeast were over .500. Only pf and pda in atlantic.
Check the DA website.
FCV DA teams are decent but not really that strong. McLean ECNL would likely beat all but one of FCV’s DA teams.
FC VA has kids that didn't play in the league games because they were playing hs. Didn't they win the DA bracket at the PF tourney? Would not count them out. This next round could be very interesting as hs kids are back on most teams.
11:36 i disagree. FC VA has several very good teams especially with kids coming back from hs. would love to see the mclean vs. FC VA matches. think many FC VA teams would win.
FCV DA is a good team, we tied them 1-1 this past season, PF also very good, tough and fast. And to the guy who is only using the Florida event to gauge talent, hope you don’t give financial advice in real life....
#blowme
.0001 of a chance for your kid to make it to a national team camp! Tell me again how DA is better then ECNL when they can beat and tie the DA teams?
Its different for every family, but for us, it was all about the training. Her previous situation was not preparing her for D1 soccer, and she sure-as-shit is a D1 player. Her old team had lots of favoritism going on, and minutes were based on who you know, not how well you play. 0001. chance of you understanding this, and 0001. chance of me caring to explain anymore. ECNL parents simply cannot wrap their minds around the fact that they are now the B league, and all I can say is keep on wrapping...
3:00 PM
Right on, Right on, Right on...
Parents take a lot of sideways glances when trying to do what's best for your kid. It's about realizing potential and being honest with yourself. Sometimes the bold move is to stay and then support your decision. The problem is we all think we need to prove our decision by tearing down others. ECNL is not the B League, it's an option. But it's an option for Clubs to gouge more $$ from gullible parents. ECNL used to be the most expensive trinket on the soccer mom's Pandora bracelet, now that there is a new gem there's new bragging rights. DA/ECNL/NPL it's all alphabet soup that will eventually have you looking back and saying either, "I enjoyed the time with my daughter and the friends we made" or for the 99.999 % of dreamers wondering where it went wrong and why is my daughter playing soccer on Whichever State U or D3 just so you can validate the 30K you spent over the last 4 years.
Lol, keep telling yourself that DA is the A league. Our ECNL teams (s) are beating and tying our DA teams and our DA teams are top 3 in their perspective groups. My daughters DA team has a lot of outstanding “individual” talent but lack any team cohesion. It takes chemistry to make a team good not a couple NT players.
Its the A league around here, because our ECNL teams are not great, but I don’t care about teams, just my little princess, and she eats ECNL girls for lunch....
5:43 - name of club perhaps? so we ask to scrimmage your ECNL instead of DA.
Do you know how I know the DA is the A-league? Because when the college girls come for supplemental training they play with our teams, not the ECNL B-league teams....
You guys sound kind of pathetic (specifically the DA dad). Was your own athletic career not what you had hoped so you have to argue about whether DA or ECNL girls soccer is better? Just enjoy your daughter’s experience as it will be over before you know it.
11:07, guess you were up late last night, Mom...
It's all about where you are...DA is good in some places and not in others. ECNL is good in some places and not in others.
We choose as we see fit for our daughters, our wallet and our travel time.
"my daughter's club is better than yours" is a little sad....
11:07 and 7:27, are you the same blogger? If not, you must be his clone. I am one of the old-guard here, and you both sound like gun-stealing, left-wing newbies, which is beyond insufferable.
As I mentioned previously, I have to deal with ECNL d-bags quite a bit, without cause they attack DA, maybe its because I have betrayed their trust, and did what was best for my kid??
Shocking, I know.
3:26 one correction - shared cross league play for the champion of the USSDA division only. They will play club format - they only plays USSDA club teams in league play.
Tournaments it's just like everyone else - depends on your flight.
Don't forget ECNL and USSDA both have National events that have league impact in addition to being a showcase. You can't have these teams playing outside clubs.
5:15 I don't think it's a mess we are in line with the rest of the world when it comes to soccer (birth year) - there is a clear TOP of the pyramid league run by the USA Federation for talent. If players want to use it it's up to them. This won't be in an issue in 5 years.
After what happened at PDA tourney, if you don't see that ECNL Board (PDA, Stars, Hawks, etc.) just want it there way and control all of it. USSF/GDA wasn't giving it to them. Read the Pied Piper before next year, you'll see the similarities.
Enjoy.
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5:15 the top 5 kids in the state want to have that chance. Once they move to a different team to have that opportunity the team is a totally different beast. The 2-3 players that switch the team: attract coaches to showcase, have the team play is a better showcase bracket, pull other kids with them
It’s a huge difference.
At this age MF is disappointing. Club seems to be doing well at other ages, especially 03 and 04 groups who showed big improvements. 01s also made the playoffs, so all in all a success I would guess.
Anyone know the WC CFC score from today?
MF 01s only made the North American cup. Not top playoffs.
The 2004 and 2003 kids switched to play GDA. The gains made by MF in those age groups are masked by the fact that they are playing B teams from WC, Albertsons, PDA, Stars. And also other top teams left the league - Breakers, Penn Fusion.
I am an ECNL'er, I will agree that the 2003 and 2004 age group did take a hit. I am curious to see how next year folds. I see many players coming back to ECNL for next year. Unsure how this will turn out tho
PDA will do well in 2003 but starting with 2004 they are DOA. Huge PDA-CSA rivalry this year with a number of PDA kids already moving to CSA.
Looking from ‘training’ perspective it’s the same amount of money for 33%-50% less training, plus PDA typically carries 22 players per team. Travel is worse, and local competition the same, but national competition and college exposure just pales in comparison.
MF congrats on making the showcase. You are ranked 15th in the showcase. This is a huge accomplishment. DOC and ECNL Director posting you guys are GOING to Seattle. Way to go. Great season!
I hope that’s sarcasm?
Depends.. For DB and JR, it is a huge accomplishment. Going to Seattle. The email blast sent out by marketing is proud of this accomplishment.
For MF parents, has to be a disgrace especially since WC qualified for Top playoffs again.
as an outsider, I like the ECNL platform. I do not believe teams should pay that kind of money for meaningless games.
MF dad are you not on blog anymore. did you jump off a bridge with all those broken promises? Hope you have time to jump ship and head to PDA like rest of your so called players you guys had.
How many Fresh MF dads can you get in one season?
read these posts regularly.
nice entertainment..
i agree the Match Fit parents have nothing to blog about. so many months of negativity, how your team will win vs this team, how PDA and WC suck. Seems there has been some realization that you and your team suck!
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Guess that guy knows the rule. 3 strikes and youre out.
Sometimes I wonder how NYCFC would do against a combined WCFC 01-02 team, any predictions?
With all players available................
DA - easy.
NY Da team vs 2001 team would be a slight edge to NYCFC. NY DA team vs 2002 ECNL, sorry no comparison. 2002 ECNL team is by far the best team in Orangeburg. Before you state I am from WC. I am not. From Long Island, know these teams very well
Hahahaha, they actually scrimmaged last week, for about 40 minutes, 2-0 DA, then practice ended, was fun to watch, both really good squads, good luck to all.
In your dreams maybe they scrimmaged. Neither Kaz or Freddie would ever allow that to happen
I do a different kind of scrimmaging in my dreams, ask your wife.
NYDA Kaz and Freddie would never allow 2002 ECNL team to scrimmage the NY DA Teams.
Just heard that Albertson has lost their ECNL license, hahahaha. PR trying to spin it as an evolution, hahaha, big winners are EM and SUSA.
So they end up in the new Eastern NPL. Not a bad league.
Might be better than playing uphill in current ECNL
USSDA - NORTHEAST (13 teams)
MA: Boston Breakers Academy
CT: Oakwood Soccer Club
NY: Empire United
NY: FC Fury NY
NY: Long Island SC
NY: New York City FC
NY: Sky Blue - NYSC
NJ: Cedar Stars Academy - Monmouth
PA: PA Classics
PA: Penn Fusion Soccer Academy
MD: Washington Spirit Academy - Baltimore Armour
VA: Washington Spirit Academy - Virginia
VA: FC Virginia
ECNL Northeast Conference (13 teams)
MA: FC Boston
MA: FC Stars
CT: Connecticut FC
CT: FSA FC
NY: East Meadow FC
NY: SUSA
NY: World Class FC
NJ: Match Fit Academy
NJ: PDA
PA: Continental FC
PA: FC Bucks
MD: Bethesda SC
MD: Maryland United
ECNL Mid-Atlantic (11 teams)
VA: BRYC Elite Academy
VA: Loudon SC
VA: McLean YSA
VA: Richmond United
VA: Virginia Development Academy
NC: Carolina Rapids
NC: NC Fusion
NC: NCFC Youth
NC: Wilmington Hammerheads
SC: Carolina Elite Soccer Academy
SC: South Carolina United
By just looking at the above list you can see why USSDA failed in season 1. Their map was based on the Boys side. They forgot the Boys side never had a league as strong as the ECNL already filling the void of top soccer.
1st - prior to USSDA the 3 NY ECNL clubs weren't the strongest - so they added another 2 - sorry but this isn't the boys side - NY just doesn't have
the player pool for 5 Academy teams.
2nd Oakwood is nice but 3 top teams in CT? No way a CT team can pull away CFC and FSA.
3rd Look at the PA teams PennFusion is nice but they are already pulling from PA Classics territory - all you did there was create in-fighting. Instead of adding a PA team to an area not covered.
4th Virginia/Maryland is loaded with clubs.
Someone mentioned 3 PDA ECNL teams (incl PDA south) based on parent meetings
Also rumor of SJEB getting a GDA.
Plus confirmed Arlington
Sea coast united in NH also in GDA
3:55 There is no U18 age in the ECNL. SO the clubs that have a deep Senior player pool will have 2 ECNL teams. Didn't know PDA was adding a 3rd. At least that will even out the teams from 13 to 14.
3:57 I don't think Arlington is Full, just younger ages.
4:06 Didn't know that.
There will be 2 ECNL teams at PDA North. Also in other ECNL founder clubs that left GDA - Eclipse, Hawks, Stars.
Moreover, PDA South parents reported in a different forum that they were also promised ECNL - right after the rumor of SJEB getting GDA surfaced. So it would be a crazy thing if PDA would just happen to add 2 ECNL teams in NJ after blocking applications from other teams for so many years.
ECNL is the new EDP
Says the fail Cedar Stars parent. PDA South will NOT be ECNL in 2019, but rumor has it will be in 2020.
PDA North will have 2 ECNL teams for 2018-19.
PDA South will have ECNL FOR 2019-20 season.
SJEB Rush was granted DA for girls in the up coming year. Not sure what is going to happen if noone is interested. Are they going to be forced to play?
Maybe a bunch of PDA South kids will be motivated to join SJEB.
Not sure why people praise HS ball game. Play quality is good only if you are lucky to be in a large enough school district with rich people.
Based on my daughter’s results it has negative impact on academics as well - a full grade lower for classes at the end of the day when kids are pulled out to play a game - compared to spring. Injuries pile up without any rest as well.
Team spirit is very good. And in general club players get positive social status on the field and in school.
SJEB/Rush won't force them to play. DA already understands at this point 03,02,01 teams are already involved with HS soccer. The 05 and 06 teams will most likely be the DA for SJEB/Rush for this upcoming year. Any "03,02,01 players who show up for their ID session tonight and next week will be considered candidates for the DA program only. At this point any players who can play at a high level already are content with their present team. I would assume VERY light turnout for the ID sessions. No PDA players from the south team will be attending. But, if you were among one of the 200+ people who attended the PDA Ajax and SJEB/Rush game this past Sunday, a combination of those two teams would be scary. Truly great soccer was played on both sides. Game was 0-0 in reg, double OT, and 7-6 in PKs going to PDA.
Weird that the 2002/2003 GDA coach is the same as current 2002 coach, right?
Two things will dictate where kids end up. One is whether or not they want to give up ALL hs sports. Two is whether ECNL or the DA wins out with College Coaches. One would imagine the better all around athletes will end up at PDA South. The second factor is still working itself out... coaches are everywhere.
Final note: Kids and parents prefer ECNL but the DA is being force fed to all.
So the country club is finally opening their doors to soccer low-lifes, how sad for you 6:11, so sad that your grip on the top league has vanished, so sad, I really feel bad, perhaps LAX is more your speed, its a little less physical, like you.
PDA parent here.
We had lots of coaches at both Florida and NC events, including coaches that were not even registered on the list. Each game had at least 40 (rain) and 80+ on a good day. Top D1 and Ivy coaches. Caveat is, we played very good competition. Some of our friends were not top billing and told us of 10-30 coaches per game.
It would be interesting if PSA or Stallions got GDA in North Jersey.
Both have facilities (does waldwick count?) and certainly a track of assembling high performance teams at a national stage.
Keep dreaming Slick
It’s a good dream!
These are the combined points for each NE ECNL CLUB
Stars 50-14-8 158 pts
CFC 42-17-14. 140 pts
MD 37-16-19. 130 pts
PDA 39-22-11. 128 pts
M Fit 36-20-16. 124 pts
EM. 34-23-15. 117 pts
Beth 34-28-10. 112 pts
Scorps 30-34-8. 98 pts
Bucks 28-36-8. 92 pts
FSA 20-41-11. 71 pts
Delco 19-43-10. 67 pts
WC. 14-43-15. 57pts
Albert 9-51-12.
Good job WCFC, next to last!!!!
WC is toast at Nationals you see their group!
Joke is on you - Albertson is ‘all out’ of ECNL
Hey Match Fit dad,
World Class overall record is 35 - 55- 25.
Its under 500.. yes- overall for a club that is dealing with DA in their backyard. I am actually surprised of their record, much better than I would have guessed in beginning of year.
Your U16 team still not able to compete with their U16 team.
Group A has some very top teams including WC. I would like to see how that Group pans out
World Class Overall record for NE
27-46-21
Match Fit
44-30-21
PDA
58-23-15
Not wasting my time with all the other clubs.
Who cares about the club. The club didn't get those kids committed. Bottom line is the WC team is better than MF and PDA 02's. I couldn't even tell you how the other age groups are doing at WC. Means nothing to my kid. Find something better than overall club record tongobat JE's team. Glad you were all left behind
Yes, WCFC has been a victim of GDA- flight, except the 02 ECNL team, heard only 2-3 left for GDA from that team. The other age groups are poor, no way around that, look for this to continue.
World Class younger teams will be fine. 06s are very good, 05s are very good plus the obvious of 02s. Will need work in other age groups tho.
With many of the clubs heading back to ECNL, the league will be much tougher. Teams like Match Fit benefited last year, will have a harder time this coming year.
Match Fit only qualified for Nationals for 04s and 03s, the 2 age group's that ended up being the hardest hit by DA this year. Next year, should change in those age groups with players heading back to ECNL.
WC is gonna get crushed by PDA Blue next season are you kidding me!
MF 04 will be even better next year as they will be the current SDFC 04 team following their coach, correct?
Nobody is heading back to ECNL by choice, moronic parents are following their clubs, it’s not about listening to the families, it’s about not wanting oversight from USSF, that and why spend 10 months training when you can charge the same amount for 6...
Not buying it. If it was a money issue they would just charge more for the 10 months training...if it was soooo much better it would be worth it, no?
It depends on who you ask, no? The DA families that I know are happy with the training, who cares about game results, its completely irrelevant to being recruited. The ECNL clubs were compelled to not charge more, as that is counter to the entire concept. If they could of, they would of...and honestly don't give a crap if you don’t buy it, as you sound like the douche who is always on here bashing GDA, probably the WCFC fat-ass, that walks around pretending to be important, but all you are is fat.
Actually I am a DA parent, I left to go back to ECNL. Personally I felt the level of competition was very poor for an elite league. I also disagree with the 4 days a week of practices. Typically 2 practices a week were basically just kids killing time with meaningless drills.
As far of kids not leaving for ECNL, is false. I know that many players that my daughter played against in early 2017 did head back to ECNL, with more not coming back next year.
High School is pretty much 4 days of practice and 2 games.
Which team did you leave?
Impossible, as there are NO fat DA parents, or you are asked to leave because of your disgusting obese self, either way, happy to be rid of you, enjoy Paramus HS soccer!
Believe what you like, but WCFC ECNL has a big problem, even with their younger teams, the better players are opting for DA. Those families can clearly see the difference at practice, and the quality of players being produced. Not sure how this is going to resolve itself, it’s a conflict for them, no doubt.
Believe what you want, NYCFC may not be in existence next year. I attended a session for my 2 daughters. 02/03 team did not have many players trying out. The 2006 team seems to not to have enough players for next year. Coach F is calling me continuously trying to sell me the world. From what I gathered, may only have 10 girls committed for next year. We are not looking to change to a DA format
Then why did you attend?
We attended for options.
Option A ended up being the best option based on what I saw
Hahahahaha, oh man, so now you’re an expert?? Perhaps you should stop double-dipping on NYSC?
NJ state cup semis and final scores:
8-5
7-1
9-1
Whhhaaat? Did they play without goalies?
Or the teams suck and are filled with rec level players. Was Copa one of those teams?
Just heard that USSF is going to cover the additional costs, for hotel and airfare, for all teams that qualify or the quarter-finals. And they are also going to pay all expense for the 4 Finalists in July at GDA Finals in KC, Mo. Not sure about you, but that is pretty cool. My kid plays RL, so no personal interest, but ECNL should do the same, if not, not good.
from my understanding, ECNL does cover expenses for finals. Never made it to the final 4, not able to provide you more information
10:38 I'll be surprised if any local team in any age group makes it into quarterfinals.
That will be for Californians vs Texans so I would not be concerned about it.
I think the North Korean team will win it all....they all look like boys anyway.
Good point on ECNL maybe paying for a Cali team to come to Richmond for Final 4. Would be a nice touch
Ah 1:45, if a local GDA team does make the quarters, can I come to your house and punch you in the face, please?
Nycfc 16/17 to quarters? Sure its possible. Do they play 8 groups like ECNL? Group winners to quarters?
Group winners to quarters.
Before anyone jumps for joy in this forum, please check the record of our local teams against seeds 9-16 at showcases. Remember, in groups stage teams from same division cant be in the same group.
So unless by some stroke of luck mid-atlantic plays against a northeast team - one of them is bound to go through. So let's wait until the draw. Maybe U16/17 PF also stands a chance. PDA lucky with 8th seed, but just too inconsistent losses to Spirit and Boston Breakers?)
In the meantime, the only bet I can place is on the U18-19 PDA team making in the quarters. The rest have inflated records based on sub-par division competition.
7:16 - or perhaps one team his very good. Best SJ players stay in the South. 4 DA's/ECNLs within 50 miles of each other up North = diluted pool.
PDA 16/17 will have it's YNT's back for the playoffs.
Wonder if US Soccer will have camps during their playoffs like they did during ECNL playoffs making kids have to choose.
Heard about some squads where some seniors are bailing out. Anyone else hear about that.
How did SJ Rush do at PDA tourney?
Why did Trump agree to stop our war games exercises with SK, whats the point of having an army group there, if they can’t practice bombing the shit out of the NK???
6:28 They played one 50 minute game lost 0:1 to SSS. What a showcase that was.
Lack of top college coaches in Seattle is frightening. Please tell me that next year's showcases will be held of different dates from GDA events?
There is still time for coaches to book. Maybe they are splitting the events.
Typically coaches register 2 weeks to 1 week prior of event.
Great to see all the Amazing young women at the NE ECNL PDP. especially all the WCFC players, congrats!!!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1740u94xl22PP9siCq8rfH7n7D3-WWFBr7ktF2rM7ti4/edit
12:39 Either you can't read or you're a crappy troll.
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The PDP Northeast (North) is a makeup event and will be held on June 9-10, 2018, in Lancaster, MA at FC Stars Complex, with some of the best players from the following ECNL clubs in the Northeast conference: Albertson Fury, Connecticut FC, East Meadow SC, FC Boston, FC Stars, and FSA FC.
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The WCFC was a part of the event in March:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/144GzSpMvW4I_VftpX1X3IsIjV1880iUJ87AZdDWcmNM/edit
12:39 Go back to your hole...Obviously your daughter wasn't invited or you would have known that
Oops, sorry WCFC, thought you guys had some quality players, my bad. Btw my daughter is on the list, she plays for CFC, remember her, the one you could not mark, hahaha.
seriously? doesn't WCFC have a GDA? And you're talking about ECNL? okay.
Congratulations to all the kids in post season in all the leagues; PDP events; continuing in cups or regionals, etc.
4:01 pm are you referring to the game that WC sat all its starters? was a meaningful game from my knowledge.
Meanwhile in the Top league, the playoffs groupings have been created, PDA in same group as NYCFC, hahahahahaha, can’t wait...
PDA and PF have gotten an easy draw. Best of luck! Hope you make the quarterfinals.
My daughter's is top. No my daughter is in the top league. No mine is. Find something better to discuss. If she's committed or close to getting committed then that's great.
where is the link for the groupings?
The DA Dad has to keep saying this out loud, so he and others may believe that this is true. we all know which way the DA is going. South
I just heard that more DA Clubs ( 8-10 ) are announcing they are leaving after the playoff concluded. You can say that this is about the money blah blah, this had to reflect the overall level of play for these clubs to be pulling out. Oh Man, I am part of the DA, this will cripple the league for years personally. Not good
Clubs I heard
Top Hat
Real Colorado
So Cal Blue
FC Dallas
Concorde
CrossFire Premier
West Coast FC
San Diego Surf
Eagles Soccer Club
Blah blah blah, exactly, it’s obviously less money for them, and too much oversight. Not surprised, in this country it’s not about quality, it’s about quantity. My daughters club is returning, but for us, it’s not for the best.
Who told you? It would be difficult to imagine as Most of the clubs listed have had tryouts for GDA teams. The clubs that left were all on the ECNL board/founding members.
Also nothing mentioned on the SOCal soccer forums which are typically legit.
Maybe will leave eventually but not next year. They already formed gda teams.
Like in a year or a hundred years.
Texas and Cali in 100 years. The others in one year.
Here we are, at the end of a historic inaugural season, the lull before the storm. It was the best of times, and worst of times, as my daughter continues her journey. Regardless of the results next week, we feel like winners, and given the totality of events, that is more than okay for us.
OH stop already. At PDA the ECNL teams tie and beat the DA teams regularly. In each group at each age there are only like 3 good teams.
the rest suck! The DA is a joke! Now with the Barons and we hear Copa getting DA, even more of a joke! Good luck in SanDiego you DA dopes!
Which PDA team? Didn’t 2002 ECNL scrimmage 2003 DA a couple of times? Or 2001 vs 2003 DA?
The 02’s, 03’s, 04’s DA teams lose or tie to their ECNL counterparts frequently! The 02 PDA South NPL team is better then the 01-02 DA team! DA is a joke, just keep telling yourselves the DA is the top league!
12:31 sounds like a decent human being, unlike you ECNL douches, who are like school in summer, no class!
02 PDA NPL South is probably one of the top teams in the country. Too bad it’s stuck in a useless league at this point.
@2:13 - clubs you "heard" were leaving; it's fake news. They are actually adding clubs. Thanks PDA parent desparate for ECNL defectors. stay tuned.
7:14 - hey PDA parent. you're funny. clearly you don't play GDA. you're ECNL teams are not very good as compared to your GDA teams. the game speed is much faster. but keep selling your wares. misery always likes company.
With adoption of DA one thing I never envisioned was sniping between members of the same CLUB over which team within the club was superior.
God - Americans suck. Have pride in your colors. For PDA ECNL parents to not get behind Sky Blue PDA DA teams is absurd conduct. Ditto WC with NYCFC.
That's all.
Why would you compare American youth soccer to any other place? Is there any other place where families have to pay in excess of 5000 bucks for the privilege of wearing the "colors"? Corrupts the entire environment and is not analogous to other places.
11:56 It’s not PDA ECNL teams that are taking swipes, it’s the entire club - coaches, management, NPL teams.
GDA Schedules are out, Tuesday 6/26, PDA vs NYCFC 1:45, field #17, be there!
Of course the people on the board of directors for ecnl are going to tout ecnl. How do they justify the optics of their business decision to leave gda league in full otherwisw. It is like the fable. Guess those grapes arent good anyway. They won't tell you it is about $$$ not development. Sheep.
What a load of crap. Anyone that has ever been to the SoCal complex, can tell you that the fields:
16, 6, 5, 17 and 18
are the worst fields.
https://www.socalsportscomplex.com/the-fields
PDA is already getting shafted by their management, and now PDA girls are getting screwed over by the USGDA. Thanks.
What are you complain about?
Are you going, no?
So shut the fuck up.
If you are going, shut the fuck up and enjoy!
I experience the DA. Glad not going back.
Glad to not have you back, enjoy kick-ball in September, Woo-hoo High School Musical....
my daughter will, she enjoys her HS friends. More importantly playing for the better league come November. Oh yea, she will enjoy her college commitment after that
I must admit, my daughter would have it very easy in HS soccer, too bad she doesn’t do easy.
Locally - perhaps it will be a better league, but nationally a much weaker league. Check RPI rankings of clubs that are leaving.
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/2017-2018-gda-club-standings.4188/page-8
Which begs the question. If ECNL is a 2-3 division league - why bother going across the continent to play play B- teams at a pay-to-play showcase event. It’s possible more teams will leave in the future, but next year may be the decider. Again following the logic that clubs presented to parents ‘we are leaving because the division is weak’ but now have to admit ‘division is strong but league is weak’. Total nonsense.
I’ve heard PDA is also offering all year program for those who don’t want to play HS. I wonder what’s the extra cost of that program.
YOu will believe DA is the better league
I believe ECNL is a better league
My cousin who coaches D1 along with his colleagues believe the ECNL is the better league.
Watch how many will not be showing up to DA showcase going forward
Oh yeah, my brothers half-sister’s 2nd cousin, knows a d3 coach, actually she just runs into him at the gym, but you get my drift.
Beliefs are for the folks that try to sell you snake oil.
There is evidence that best clubs in current GDA are remaining in GDA. (15 top 20 RPI)
There is evidence that more D1 college coaches are attending GDA events than ECNL events (lists are out on respective sites for last 2 showcases)
There is evidence that the GDA divisions around north/east are the weakest with teams that should not be there.
- there are still lots of clubs/teams outside of ECNL/GDA that could compete within either league
- there is no evidence that any of these organizations will cooperate
USSDA is trending toward USYS as their official partner, that is bad news for US Club, and their precious encl.
If 30-50 coaches are at your games during showcase events.. all is well. Regardless of the letters of your league. Why? - quality players are on the field. 02 kids need not worry about anything else. To compare the leagues if fruitless for these age groups.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/20180618-nine-clubs-to-join-girls-development-academy-2018-2019
Still waiting for SSS and PSA to join something.
5:27 The letters that count are the college leagues. That's where the difference comes in. 3 ivy leagues? Assistant coaches?
You sound like a guy who has never won anything, and you come from money, not yours.
6 colleges from PAC 12 and 4 from ACC (with just 1 head coach) @ECNL - if you are looking for "winning" colleges. Probably around 4/10 top 10 Colleges by eyeballing the listings.
So certainly the "winning" or "ivy" colleges are avoiding the ECNL showcase. Moreover, the assistant coaches that are listed on the ECNL site are also listed on the GDA site as being registered. They will either go to one.
8:11 am - 40+ schools at every game. Big 10, Ivy, etc. And for 99% of these kids it's the Academics that should matter. My point is once your beating teams at the top flights of tourneys on a regular basis coaches don't care which league your from. They want to win and want the best players. Kids want great academics and a competitive team.
You are aware that coach from a school needs to be at a showcase so your kid can be seen by that school? Otherwise you are being seen by a bunch of schools you don’t really want to attend, right?
Often a player finds a school they like after coach contact. Could be a school they have never heard of - or that they had the wrong impression about before visiting/researching. Comfort with the coaching staff also comes into play. So YES, those schools "you don't want to go to" could be where you go.
ECNL sucks!
Thanks for reading!
LOL, DA sucks!
Enough said!
Correction!!! Meant to say LOL, PDA sucks!
Where is the autocorrect when you need it!
Best of luck and safe travels to all the GDA players and families, play hard and stay true!
Just looked at the East Regionals aka Region 1 championships and noticed only 2 players both from Century are the only committed players in the tournament at U16. While at U17 there are 43 reported commits. Most impressive is the SJEB U17 team of the 21 players on their roster 17 have verbals only 2 2019s don't. Love them or hate them that's how it's done. Big roster, still winning and more important they placing their kids.
This is why this club should have been awarded ECNL previously and GDA first time around.
Heard NONE of the PDA south girls showed up to tryouts and you
Guys barely had enough to enough form a team! Any comments or corrections
about that?
They were all pulled up to ECNL and GDA playoffs. It’s all good.
Tuesday is the GDA moment if #truth
2:36 SJB = ECNL playoffs???
Is it working? I thought the rosters were closed.
2:36, what do you mean moment of truth??
2:36 has my vote for vaguest most useless post yet 4 people responded. It is either brilliant or superior ignorance. You decide.
I guess not vague if people responded; like I am to your's. Cheers!
No info being posted. Are all the posters on the West Coast?
PDA scrimmaged against NYCFC.
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scrimmaged? Aren't those GDA teams in San Diego? Who would scrimmage in the middle of games? Sounds like fake news.
Congrats to the U18/U19's in the semi-finals today. Boston Breakers; LA Slammers; Solar Chelsea and Crossfire Premier.
Their age group completed bracket play yesterday and these 4 are playing for the hardware. Luckily they rested a lot of their top players for today since due to the amount of draws all 4 spots were clinched after the second game. I am surprised that there are back to back games like this in US Soccer playoffs? These games were very fast and physical. It was really amped up. I just got back.
On Friday the winner of the 1st GDA Playoff will be crowned. Like the league or not, we are witnessing history as far as girls soccer.
I saw really good games which is expected from end of the season and US Soccer. Only a few teams didn't travel with all or most of their Seniors, including Real So Cal that didn't have to travel very far. But all of the 4 in the semi's have their full squads including their natties.
Good luck to our Region 1 representatives Boston Breakers. And for all of you that support high school ball, many of their top players did play high school in the fall using the waiver.
So puts a dent in Stars and PDA's reason for returning to ECNL. It's not about high school. It's about the money people. It's about the money.
circling back as my kid is still playing out there in the U16/U17's, our Region 1 teams including U15's are doing well too. will update on those later.
how about ECNL. any updates?
PDA vs NYCFC game yesterday was phenomenal. They are a very talented squad, congrats to them! We only had 3 subs, and one of them was injured before, and during the game. PDA had an entire bench of subs, and at this time of year is a gigantic advantage. We played with 10 girls for the last 15 minutes, and left everything on the field. Good luck going forward, until next time!
I heard it was a good game. Great job to both teams. I heard that pda wasnt going but so much for the fake news.
What PDA age group are you talking about. This blog page is U-16 and the DA and ECNL are on the West Coast?
12:06, 01/02 GDA Playoffs in Oceanside CA, PDA 2-NYCFC 0, was a nonstop battle from first to last whistle, bravo to both!!!
Wow. Congrats to PF and FC Virginia on making the final 8 at U16/17 GDA playoffs!
Yes, congrats to both clubs, great competition here, no small feat. Both clubs are all-in for GDA, no time for ECNL bullshit.
Competition overall was good, many teams in my opinion here due to weak divisions.
From BOTN:
Say what you want, but I give all the GDA players and their families huge credit, and respect. Most could of stayed on the safe side and played with their former teams, ECNL, NPL and USYS, but they chose the hard path, the path of uncertainty, and ALL have gained from this, especially my daughter. She has committed to a great D1 school, loves her team, and club, and can’t wait for September, when they do it all over again!!!
Yes let's all give credit...blah blah blah. Go post it on Facebook
5:17 I guess your daddy issues explain your never ending desire for attention...Facebook.
Facebook envy obviously.
5:01 is probably more of a snap-chat kind of guy, you know, like the girls...
What's wrong with posting on facebook and giving credit or even bragging? Seems like some people are a little jealous? Who cares if they tweet, facebook, snapchat, instagram or whatever - like it or don't and move on. The people who have issues with that are usually the people who wish they can post the same stuff but can't.
This is going to be a very important year. the 2020s that don't get their offers this upcoming season, will not want to practice as much because it's no longer fun. It's easier to stop playing than admit they weren't as good as their parents thought. The parents will look for excuses blaming everything and everyone under the sun. The small clubs will not field teams the following season because these players will no longer want to play leaving the better 2021 players scrambling for a new team. If your kid is at a big club with many teams you are safe with a roster spot but look out for all these kids looking for a new team
1:44 I think you just made their case and are exactly the Facebook tool they are talking about. If you need Facebook to brag you are a weenie.
Not Facebook envy, weenie envy. Now it makes sense.
Congratulations to PDA South! They had an amazing year.
Great job by PDA south girls. Maybe they should call a few up to the big team....
https://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/07/hey_gov_murphy_fix_your_disgraceful_sweatshop_of_a.html
Anyone here knows where do the MF kids leave to? Seems like a constant exodus. Anyone left from 2 years ago?
yes, they all went to WCFC ECNL to continue their losing ways....
PDA South is treated better than Guv Murphy's mother club. They got to take the corporate jet to Nationals and stay in the corporate ski chalet. All comp first class.
no kids left from 2 years ago team.
So PDA Ajax won the u16 NPL championship??
3 years ago that would of been impressive, these days...meh.
ECNL all America team named, 1 MFA, 1 CFC, no girls from WCFC, surprised their little Asian girl not selected??
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