All of the leagues are a mess including NL. Some NL teams are now ECNL and GDA. Some top NL kids are in ECNL and GDA. No league is exempted from the mess that US Soccer has caused including GDA. some kids are not highest level but to fill spots they are on rosters. not sure how it will fix itself. may take longer than 5 years because of the greed.
5;38 you do know that The following teams are USDA/ECNL B/C/D teams right? 1. La Roca-FD 02 (UT) 2. Beach FC 02 (CA-S) 3. Michigan Hawks 02 (MI) 4. UFA 02 Premier (GA) 5. Nationals Union 02 Black (MI) 6. FC United 02 Pre Academy (IL) 7. Solar 02 Naizer (TX-N) 8. CSA North-Cab Predator (NC) 9. CDA Premier 02 (KY) 10. Legends FC 02 Academy (CA-S) 11.Eclipse Select 2002 Black (IL) 12. Solar 02 (TX-N) 13. Nationals Union 02 Red (MI) 14. Albion SC 02 Academy (CA-S) 15. PDA Shore Wave (NJ) 16. NCFC 02 ELITE (NC)
That's an excellent observation at 9:35. While ECNL definitely took a big hit US Youth Soccer and its National League was also affected by DA. Some of the best teams from NL last year are now in DA.
Of course the listing can also be a bit deceiving. For instance, the first team on your list, La Roca (UT) is actually the same team that played in NL last year, not a single player from that team is on the DA team. That's because of the mixed 01/02 division in DA- at La Roca that team all came from the 01 team.
There are still some excellent teams in ECNL and NL- and will continue to be for some time as things shake out. And one major reason is simply geography. There are some very large geographic regions without a DA team- and these areas will continue to produce fine players and excellent teams. ECNL is still missing from large areas as well. Some of the best US Youth Soccer teams are coming from those areas with little or no DA/ECNL presence.
Wow, that's a lot of info about a team from Utah, creepy. It's obvious that the DA is now the 800lb gorilla, so either you are with us, or against us, there is no middle anymore....
we used to play npl for years. And our dream was always to play against ecnl teams. We have been ecnl now for last year or so. And we definitely get better competition than in npl. And the teams we did play in NL were always good, but not great. For example PDA shore we always beat them. In open cup, in state cup play and also edp play. And we were npl team, or just EDP team. But remember that pda shore thing is still in infancy. Whenever we went to tournaments we loved playing ecnl, because they were the best most times. Penn Fusion, MF, albertson, FC virginia, PDA storm, that other ecnl team from NY. CFC. With DA you are not going to play DA teams unless lucky in a tournament or in DA. So I agree, in the end DA and ECNL will be place to be. Unfortunately what youth soccer guru's have done makes it like that. DA/ECNL, NPL/NL, EDP. That is current pyramid for sure.
For DA and ecnl you have to be in the area to play for those teams. That comes into play. Great players may go to pda shore or copa because DA or ecnl is too far, and parents or kids don't want to travel too much. And for some High School is still very, very, very important so DA is moot point
Perhaps a 16 year old might find hs soccer very very very important, but as an adult, and parent, you are obligated to help your daughter make decisions that will positively impact her future, hs soccer should not be part of that, ever.
I’m not listening to some 16 year old stranger, I don’t even listen to my own 16 year old stranger, even though she has the same last name as me...wisdom is often confused for confusion grasshopper, free your mind and the ball will follow....
7:34 Why - they seem to do right for their kids. the 17-18 season seems to follow the 16-17.
If it came down to playing on Copa or Sitting on the bench and not dressing for a good team - I would pick playing in 8 showcase events for my kid.
However, if my kid was a key player on a good team then I would take the good team with the lesser events.
2017-18 Showcase Events 1. PA Classics Winter College Showcase - Girls 2. Disney Girls Soccer Showcase 3. EDP Cup Fall Showcase 2017 Girls
2016-17 Showcase Events 1. NYC Cup - Girls Showcase 2. EDP Cup Spring Showcase 2017 3. Columbia Invitational Memorial Day Tournament 4. EDP Easter Showcase 2017 5. Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase (1998/99-2002) 6. PA Classics Winter College Showcase - Girls 7. NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer Showcase 8. EDP Cup Fall Showcase 2016 Girls
USYS andUS Club State/Regional events 1. National Championship Series 15u-18u 2. New Jersey Cup 2017 3. USCS Mid-Atlantic Regional
League/LeagueCup 1. EDP Spring 2017 2. EDP Open Cup 2017
Futsal league/state cup 1. EDP New Jersey Futsal 2017 State Cup 2. EDP NJ FUTSAL 2017 LEAGUE
Garbage no quality teams with garbage no quality coaches! When your teams are flighted in the Rec level divisions it’s a waste of time and money to travel to these tournaments! Sorry Copa your a joke!
what causes you to be ok with telling someone their children's sport they love, the game your own kid hopefully loves, is completely a waste of time and money, and that their club is a joke! Sorry copa, you're a joke! you realize you're talking to parents, who love their kids and want to see them happy same as you. karma is a real bitch. one day she'll come back and bite you hard.
4:18 Jeff Cup is the B league so who cares? The college coaches that will be there looking for talent for one. You seem to get a lot of personal validation from your kid playing in your perceived A league. Lots of DA players in our area are not better than players that will be in Jeff Cup. Probably should expand your world view.
settle down. this wasn't trash talking. it was merely inquiring. I think jeff cup is great and am just wondering if it has been affected by all this multiple league madness like other showcases have been. btw - if you always look for negative, you'll always find it.
no 6:45, I am he, 10:11. however you are a d. hopefully your coffee kicks in soon so you can go to the bathroom and be a better person after. try some fiber.
What happened to the Kitty Kats!! they lost their meow! I guess that merger was a mess, a weaker end product. And their coaches were outdated anyway, for for the top shelf events!
Its really amazing to see how this board has changed in the last couple of years, at u13 it was a really entertaining, and sometimes LOL funny, all the semi-serious insults and aspirtions would make my day, alas to every season turn, turn, turn
Someone mentioned to me that PDA is more likely to promote team or club results whereas WCFC more likely to promote individual talent. Is that true? It was just pure banter.
Haha suck. Now my friend your 2002 team averaged about 2.5 coaches on the sideline per game. What a disgrace and an embarrassment for the club. Parents pay all that money to travel to Florida for a showing similar to NEWS lmao. And what makes this whole thing even better is that the only commit on that team is a player he trained in her in her prime years.
The coach of World Classless-his name is Jeff! Not to be confused with Jeff Cup. Brag all you want about having 1 girl on the Nat team, doesn’t make your “team” any good!
Dear Matchfit Dads So sorry you're upset our coach is going out of his way to get everyone of our WCFC '02 ECNL players committed. It's crazy how he keeps putting the kids first, isn't it? I know it's hard to imagine a coach being more concerned about his players than his reputation, but I guess he didn't buy into that MF way of thinking. Don't worry though, your coaches will never change. See you in the Spring.
Sorry but this is too much. Lets look at quality not quantity. The MF kid is going to by far the best school out of the group. Say what you want but thats the fact jack!
Haha thanks for your input DOC now what makes that funny is you never post how many of your girls transfer after getting to your fantasy world schools because they don't play. Now that's a fact DOM!
Ah, now that's more like it, love the friendly interaction! I know a couple of parents on the WCFC 02 ECNL team, and they love the coach, not sure about anything else, but as far as getting girls committed, I hear Jeff is excellent. Good for them, some great people involved with that team, and look for them to have a great season!
Maybe..maybe not. Different now with the mixture of 2001's on the DA rosters. That will never happen because it would be a black eye for the DA club if they did win and the DA wouldn't allow it anyway. So why bother discussing that? Let's discuss what they're gonna do this year. Gonna be a fun season for the players and parents. Nice group of families
All the players, exactly the same?? Certain NJ families get special treatment, no doubt, but honestly I think it's like that everywhere, they are not alone with this type of drama.
NYCFC 01/02 would crush WC ECNL, and the age issue is not relevant since the ECNL girls just played against girls 2 years older in HS soccer. It's more like 2015 when 01/02 were mixed for most 01 teams. But, yes it's not important, but it's still fun to debate?
WC 02 is a solid ECNL team, they can play with anyone, but the question is...Does a solid ECNL team get all the players recruited? Yes, or history shows they should do well on that front. Most players and parents at this age group are in the thralls of finding a good fit athletically and educationally, end of story.
BTW: I know both teams, no chance WC could beat NYCFC, although it would be a really entertaining game!
1:59 why are you talking about last year? Last year, Patriots were World Champs too. Do you think that current team beats current PF team (that is GDA)?
Hahaha, revenge of the PF dad....not a chance, PF would clobber them. Just like you were trying to do to Crossfit Premier down in Bradenton, you guys were all elbows and teeth, and before you claim innocence, my daughter and I were there, killing time, and getting a good laugh at your guys being flustered, hahahaha.
BTW: Awful that the Pats were in the Super Bowl, again, more awful is that Philly won : (
Sorry, was thinking about my hot wife, and her crossfit training body....does one word really make such a big difference?? Am I wrong? If you lie America will know...and why aren’t you on top of a light-post screaming drunk obscenities at your fellow eagle fans??
Your LW was quite the aggressor that game, whoever that she she needs to play with honor, and not try to hurt the poor Crossfit girl, she looked like she was on crack....
I am confused, are we still talking about NYCFC. Sorry they are not as good as you think. This team is made up of 2001 WCCFC players that did not beat the 2002 team in scrimmages last year, what makes them better this year? New Jersey's?? Oh yes that's it.. The Jersey made them better players - Definitely drinking Freddie's Cool Aid. How much do you pay him privately??
Hahaha, you are a complete moron, my daughter plays for NYSC, but I know both teams, NYCFC is a far better team, not sure about this guy Freddie, but honestly anybody's is better than the WCFC coaches, hahaha
Not a pro, my daughter use to play for Jeff last year, and we played against NYCFC this past season, both teams are very good, but DA teams will always have the edge....but thanks for calling me a pro!
Someone had mentioned this already, if you look at all the public commits from the WCFC 02 ECNL team they are all his old players from Match Fit, so good job being a homer coach, keep NJ first?? Plenty of families are not happy about the perceived bias, just ask all the legacy WC families.
Please. "WC families" were looking around for the best spot as well. Not like they were just driven out by the Jersey kids and never would have thought to leave WC.
7:17pm- that is a very poor statement. Players who commit are player's who deserve to commit. No club coach is able to have a college coach take a player of theirs. the player's need to perform on the field. The players that have not committed, did you ever think they are not being sought after? Just an outsider- just using common sense.
Poor statement, hahaha? You just called 3/4 of the team not worthy to be recruited, what?? So the girls who have committed are the best players on the team??
I would believe what 8:58pm is claiming: that the players that committed- were being sought after by their future schools. The coach indeed helped in process, I would not claim that the coach had those players go first. The "3/4" of team will have their moment, just a cycle.
Not sure who Dom is, sounds like a former family, not surprised. The issue is there are current families who are not happy with the nepotism that is occurring on the WC 02 ECNL, it's very unprofessional, and this type of behavior also extends to a few chosen families, do your job Jeff and be fair to all the girls!!
If college recruitment is truly the end-goal for all the families, then every girl should play roughly the same amount of time. No way should some only play 20 minutes a game, no way. I have heard that some play the whole game, even the ones who are already recruited, while others not so much.
You play to win the game. Are people seriously questioning playing time at this level. Basically my argument would then be, no one should get a full scholarship, those players need to share with my kid. Plus she wants to attend Duke, then the coach should make room for her and have her play. COME ON MAN
Some of you parents clearly do not understand or have knowledge of the college process. Like all teams, including my daughters team. There are a few obstacles you as a parent have to understand. 1st- players on the team will all have their moment. The top player (s) will get the most attention at first; the top 3rd players will get some interest at the same time. This interest will only be of coaches reaching out and getting in contact with the player. Then continue to follow their growth as a player. Once the top players sign, colleges will pursue the next group of players on a team, so on and so on. The coach does not have any control of when a player will get recruited. My 2nd daughter happened to fall in the middle 3rd. We waited our time. Her package was not in the same ballpark as the players that committed earlier with some schools. The smaller D1s and D2s were able to put some attractive offers for us to consider. The poster from 6:58am, obviously has to be an unhappy parent or dislikes this coach, trust me, he does not dictate which players get sought after, the college coaches do! 2nd- many players get interest from schools. Since these schools are not the player’s first choice, these players do not follow up with them. By doing so, these players end up losing out on a possible good offer from a school that has expressed in a player. I have seen this too often. It’s too bad; those schools can offer you a great education. (Typically this faults on the parents, not a big time school in their eyes) I strongly suggest reaching out to all schools that expressed interest in your daughter. 3rd- I have am lucky to have 3 kids, 2 of them gone through this process, while last one is in the gist of process. You can go to a targeted school, small chance of players end up at their first choice; more importantly play soccer at your first few choices. You can go to a top school and pay for it, trust me I know. My first did this. I am still paying for it. She was happy to be at her school she wanted to be at, downside is she played one year, never saw the field and quit at the end of her freshman year. 2nd daughter, choose wisely, she picked a school that she had an opportunity to play as a freshman. She is having a great college experience while playing the sport she loves. She could have gone to a D1 school (Not get much money) but she choose to attend a D2 school. Happy Camper! 3rd one, waiting to see how this pans out!
I do think it is unfair to post some of the comments I have been reading regarding this coach. Our team has played a few of his teams in the past; I believe he does a good job with his players personally. But there is no way this coach has any say of which players will get recruited, the players control their destiny with their play. He does play an integral part of communicating with the players and coaches during their freshman\sophomore year.
Good stuff. But (and it is not about the coach being referenced here) my one daughters coach at u16 a few years ago definitely held the keys when it came to college coach interest. If a college coach reached out to him regarding interest in someone that was not at the top of his list the information did not get communicated. Or if it was from a school that was not prestigious enough to build his resume he would not pass it on. We came to find out that 4 players missed out on possible interest from schools they would have been interested in. My daughter was diligent and has successfully committed to one of her top 3 choices. Some girls are still waiting (2018 grads).
8:21 my oldest daughter had same experience. 2 mid-major D1 coaches were communicating with club coach and he didn't tell my daughter. 2 reasons possible bc he never owned up to it... 1. he was horrible at communicating and needed meds 2. didn't think she was worthy My daughter ended up at an ID clinic at one of the schools one year after being recruited and college coach remembered her and asked why she hadn't communicated interest back... PS she now attends that school and is doing very well.... Look out for your own daughter somehow...
I am a world class parent, our coach constantly sends out emails to me and others (we speak on sidelines ) when a college coach expresses interest in his players. I can speak on my own experience, received emails from smaller D1s and D3s. Nothing was omitted to me or my daughter, I know as some schools were nothing to brag about personally. I am very happy with our communication and guidance I am receiving.
I have noticed that some local DA clubs are beginning the process for 2018-2019, and according to DA guidelines, if you are already on a DA team, that you must ask your current club for permission to attend another club’s id sessions. Question is, how many will not, and should not, for obvious practical reasons, duh.
An honest club will stay honest. First question is usually "who do you play for now?" TM will also ask that but also likes taking players from other clubs, will be interesting to see how the DA rules come in to play.
Jeff Cup schedules are out. The U16 (2002) top flight is certainly going to be interesting. There are 6 ECNL teams and 6 USYS or NPL teams in the flight. Every single game is going to be an ECNL vs. USYS NL/NPL matchup. I really like seeing that, it's going to be a lot of fun.
You sir, are scrum troll. I see you posted the same garbage over on another site. Is it possible, given the national tragedy that took place yesterday, the loss of life of children, exactly the age of this forum, you'd think that decency would let you take a breather from this crap for a day or two. You're disgusting and an embarrassment to your family.
This is a soccer forum btw... But typical to react emotionally and want to take away rights. The person holding and shooting the gun is to blame!! FBI knew about this guy but we all know what they've been busy trying to do...
Guys at this age, I would hope the coaches would be playing all players evenly at these types of showcases. Results mean absolutely nothing. The players need an opportunity to be seen.
I did forget to mention in my post on 2:26 2/12. the players need to show an interest in a school by one of several communications. Email the coach, have your coach call\email the coach or even the player reach out to the coach via phone call. a college coach will not watch a player that has not expressed interest in their school. Time is too valuable to waste on players that do not show any interest.
TM is supposed to be notified if this happens. Soccer world way too small especially when the 2 clubs are 1 hour apart. Trust me, as soon as PF vehicle pulls up to PAC field, TM knows....
All the coaches brag about this stuff on the coach back-channel network. Its not unique to the GDA.
As long as it's an ID camp and not an official training session it's perfectly fine by the DA: --- If a player trains with another Academy team prior to receiving a release, he may not be permitted to transfer to that Academy club. Clubs wishing to speak to a player registered with another Academy club must state their intentions in writing to the player’s club, the Academy Staff, and their respective Technical Advisors. --- https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/ddh3x0fztgwufv8x1bc3dep1i97t0q5h
Sadly, she is not, playing in the B league with high school stars not the optimal system. She is a great player, she needs to get away from the David Koresh of North Jersey soccer..
The point is that the talent is spread across 3 platforms: DA, ECNL, USYS NL
DA is not the end all be all. Those were the only games I could find in the VDA and PF showcases that pitted DA vs ECNL. So it appears that PF didn’t play any ECNL teams.
VDA 01s playing Richmond’s U16s who are 02s to a draw seems to not be a bad result for the Richmond team.
Sam and her parents must disagree, I would tend to believe USA Soccer has no issue with her situation or they would have told her to move to another team. you play for DA so DA must be the better league. Keep telling yourself this, eventually others might believe it as well LOL
5:58am worried about another child's future on the blog? Seriously. I would focus on your own child, don't worry about a kid that is on US national team. This coach has been with her since she was 8 or 9. Obviously, this coach is doing just fine job with her.
"The point is that the talent is spread across 3 platforms: DA, ECNL, USYS NL"
Correct. And obvious. USSF should have started DA from the ground up. Instead they cannibalized 70 existing clubs and their staff. There is nothing special about DA right now other than a few more practices per week. Literally the same staff that was running ECNL/NL teams just last year. If they truly wanted to train the best of the best for possible inclusion on national teams they could have simply set up maybe 10 regionally based training centers and made it free. Instead it is just rebranding existing clubs and putting nearly 30% of all DA teams in California. Makes little sense.
Oh boy, here we go, just spewing the same old crap...blaming the same old Federation. Is USSF any worse than the US Congress? Personally, I could care less, just 2 more years and I am free, but in those 2 years, GDA is the platform that we have chosen. I have nothing against ECNL or RL, I wish you guys well, but don’t bash us. Every family has its reasons for going or staying, ours was simple...
P.S. To all the lovely ECNL douche-bags I have to deal with everyday, best of luck!
I heard the WC 02's scrimmaged last week as well during practice. Team split into two, I heard it was red pinnies vs yellow pinnies. Anyone hear how that one went?
Not affiliated with any of the mentioned teams. But if it’s a scrimmage- it’s to work on some tactical objectives and to learn from mistakes. Not saying that kids don’t give 100% - but that’s a space where my kids would try something new and different to see if it works. Also will not challenge in a hard tackle.
Just does not carry the same emotional weight. Sorry to all tribal parents out there.
10:48 seriously?? you really think you thump your chest over a scrimmage? I'm not with either team. in a scrimmage, you play kids in different positions; you try different things; you don't show your hand. it's a good practice; not a win. i chide my kid's parents when they try to brag about the results of a scrimmage. it means nothing and is useful as a teaching tool. get it....tool?
in a scrimmage, the score doesn't matter. in a scrimmage, you play kids from other teams (pulling up or over), you play kids out of position, you try new things. btw - 1 player doesn't a team make, either. it's a team sport not swimming. hopefully this is a troll stirring the pot. it's u16!!
What loser college coaches attend a scrimmage Jesus! They would be better off scouting high school games then those two teams. Let’s see what the weak Jeff Cup provides you for wins and loses. My bet is both teams get steamrolled!
Don't know about Duke, but Penn State might be there, since there are multiple recruits playing, on both sides. Villanova might drop by, they are pretty close, but Michigan will not, they will definitely be at your daughter's indoor practice, no doubt.
2:49 2/23 - hilarious. heard it was a nail biter. all kids on both sides verbally committed by end of the scrimmage. not a game. not a game you know. not a game. practice. (sorry, it's a philly/Iverson thing).
Jealousy rears its ugly head. Yes there were coaches. and they even had a three refs system. Aren't ALL kid's games really scrimmages? What's the point? Develop for and grab your spot with some financial "relief" in the next level. Whatever that level is for your particular kid's wants and abilities.
When coaches play to win, and talk ‘we want to win championships’ you know the GDA is a failure. When teams put 24 players on a roster and 3 Development Players and 10 players see no action on the field, you know that GDA is a total failure. When coaches of the GDA teams don’t have the certifications required and are the good old same ECNL coaches from last year - you know you are a sucker that switched from one money making scheme to another. Oh well 😔
News flash, a lot of the ECNL teams are beating and tying their own DA teams at many clubs! The DA is a weak system and the college coaches are noticing that. Would love for an ECNL vs. DA tournament to get setup! The DA teams would be scared.
11:02 - so surely you can go back. don't let door hit you in the arse. bet no one on your team would care either. and a ECNL vs DA tourney would be great. i think that is a good idea. USSF could care less about any of this. they caused it.
what certifications are you talking about? licenses? clubs don't get emblems without top licenses.
also there is a championship system in these leagues. the leagues set them. so why shouldn't they be the goal for teams? it is a business you know. success dictates in every league. would you send your kid to a team with a coach that didn't want to succeed?
3,538 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 3001 – 3200 of 3538 Newer› Newest»At least the National League is not a mess. Thats’s why it’s teams will easily get to the finals at JeffCup.
except it is a mess as well. teams are watered down. some teams are ECNL now. some teams are GDA. kids left for ECNL and GDA. All of it is a hot mess.
All of the leagues are a mess including NL. Some NL teams are now ECNL and GDA. Some top NL kids are in ECNL and GDA. No league is exempted from the mess that US Soccer has caused including GDA. some kids are not highest level but to fill spots they are on rosters. not sure how it will fix itself. may take longer than 5 years because of the greed.
5;38 you do know that The following teams are USDA/ECNL B/C/D teams right?
1. La Roca-FD 02 (UT)
2. Beach FC 02 (CA-S)
3. Michigan Hawks 02 (MI)
4. UFA 02 Premier (GA)
5. Nationals Union 02 Black (MI)
6. FC United 02 Pre Academy (IL)
7. Solar 02 Naizer (TX-N)
8. CSA North-Cab Predator (NC)
9. CDA Premier 02 (KY)
10. Legends FC 02 Academy (CA-S)
11.Eclipse Select 2002 Black (IL)
12. Solar 02 (TX-N)
13. Nationals Union 02 Red (MI)
14. Albion SC 02 Academy (CA-S)
15. PDA Shore Wave (NJ)
16. NCFC 02 ELITE (NC)
That's half the league.
That's an excellent observation at 9:35. While ECNL definitely took a big hit US Youth Soccer and its National League was also affected by DA. Some of the best teams from NL last year are now in DA.
Of course the listing can also be a bit deceiving. For instance, the first team on your list, La Roca (UT) is actually the same team that played in NL last year, not a single player from that team is on the DA team. That's because of the mixed 01/02 division in DA- at La Roca that team all came from the 01 team.
There are still some excellent teams in ECNL and NL- and will continue to be for some time as things shake out. And one major reason is simply geography. There are some very large geographic regions without a DA team- and these areas will continue to produce fine players and excellent teams. ECNL is still missing from large areas as well. Some of the best US Youth Soccer teams are coming from those areas with little or no DA/ECNL presence.
RedBall
Wow, that's a lot of info about a team from Utah, creepy. It's obvious that the DA is now the 800lb gorilla, so either you are with us, or against us, there is no middle anymore....
Blueballs
So what’s next, are you going to make fun of my brand of Depends???
That is just main mean....
First step is to admit that you wear them. So great job!
we used to play npl for years. And our dream was always to play against ecnl teams. We have been ecnl now for last year or so. And we definitely get better competition than in npl. And the teams we did play in NL were always good, but not great. For example PDA shore we always beat them. In open cup, in state cup play and also edp play. And we were npl team, or just EDP team. But remember that pda shore thing is still in infancy.
Whenever we went to tournaments we loved playing ecnl, because they were the best most times. Penn Fusion, MF, albertson, FC virginia, PDA storm, that other ecnl team from NY. CFC. With DA you are not going to play DA teams unless lucky in a tournament or in DA. So I agree, in the end DA and ECNL will be place to be. Unfortunately what youth soccer guru's have done makes it like that. DA/ECNL, NPL/NL, EDP. That is current pyramid for sure.
11:41 dream on
For DA and ecnl you have to be in the area to play for those teams. That comes into play. Great players may go to pda shore or copa because DA or ecnl is too far, and parents or kids don't want to travel too much. And for some High School is still very, very, very important so DA is moot point
Perhaps a 16 year old might find hs soccer very very very important, but as an adult, and parent, you are obligated to help your daughter make decisions that will positively impact her future, hs soccer should not be part of that, ever.
Thanks,
Blue balls
I’m not listening to some 16 year old stranger, I don’t even listen to my own 16 year old stranger, even though she has the same last name as me...wisdom is often confused for confusion grasshopper, free your mind and the ball will follow....
BBs
4:52 where do you want us to go? Facebook? the new place were the oldies go. then can't post with anonymity.
Copa? I wouldn’t let me dog play for Copa!
Gender is subjective, don't you this yet?
7:34 Why - they seem to do right for their kids.
the 17-18 season seems to follow the 16-17.
If it came down to playing on Copa or Sitting on the bench and not dressing for a good team - I would pick playing in 8 showcase events for my kid.
However, if my kid was a key player on a good team then I would take the good team with the lesser events.
2017-18
Showcase Events
1. PA Classics Winter College Showcase - Girls
2. Disney Girls Soccer Showcase
3. EDP Cup Fall Showcase 2017 Girls
2016-17
Showcase Events
1. NYC Cup - Girls Showcase
2. EDP Cup Spring Showcase 2017
3. Columbia Invitational Memorial Day Tournament
4. EDP Easter Showcase 2017
5. Jefferson Cup Girls Showcase (1998/99-2002)
6. PA Classics Winter College Showcase - Girls
7. NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer Showcase
8. EDP Cup Fall Showcase 2016 Girls
USYS andUS Club State/Regional events
1. National Championship Series 15u-18u
2. New Jersey Cup 2017
3. USCS Mid-Atlantic Regional
League/LeagueCup
1. EDP Spring 2017
2. EDP Open Cup 2017
Futsal league/state cup
1. EDP New Jersey Futsal 2017 State Cup
2. EDP NJ FUTSAL 2017 LEAGUE
Garbage no quality teams with garbage no quality coaches! When your teams are flighted in the Rec level divisions it’s a waste of time and money to travel to these tournaments! Sorry Copa your a joke!
what causes you to be ok with telling someone their children's sport they love, the game your own kid hopefully loves, is completely a waste of time and money, and that their club is a joke! Sorry copa, you're a joke! you realize you're talking to parents, who love their kids and want to see them happy same as you. karma is a real bitch. one day she'll come back and bite you hard.
Did you already file?
For your viewing pleasure
http://files.leagueathletics.com/Images/Club/2195/Roberto-Aguas-2015-FC-Copa-Academy-Headshot.jpg
That looks like my lawn-guy, does he have 2 jobs?
Yes. How do you think he makes 200K
Are you sure? That's a lot of freaking lawns..,
Time to make the dounuts.....i love these guys from PA
7 of 12 U16 teams in championship bracket at Jeffcup are from Tri state area. Some good potential matchups. Any idea when brackets will be posted?
Jeff Cup is now the B league, just like ECNL and RL, so who cares??
B League is the Best League for queen bees 🐝
4:18 Jeff Cup is the B league so who cares? The college coaches that will be there looking for talent for one. You seem to get a lot of personal validation from your kid playing in your perceived A league. Lots of DA players in our area are not better than players that will be in Jeff Cup. Probably should expand your world view.
Come on bro, lighten-up, was just jerking your chain. It's all good, and I am happy for all...
How many teams normally attend Jeff Cup? Are the attendance numbers down with DA now up and running? Is rainman in the house?
Trash talking Jeff Cup over a few DA teams now not part of it, really?
settle down. this wasn't trash talking. it was merely inquiring. I think jeff cup is great and am just wondering if it has been affected by all this multiple league madness like other showcases have been. btw - if you always look for negative, you'll always find it.
Post was for the 4:18 doouche
11:05
I know you are, but what am I...
wow!
that's all
Its you’re going to call people names, at least spell it right, it makes you seem less stupid.
got it 11:05. I am 10:11 - not the rest. thanks for the clarification.
You're not 10:11, I am 10:11, liar, you must be a republican douche.
wow!
Are the kids blogging from school?
no 6:45, I am he, 10:11. however you are a d. hopefully your coffee kicks in soon so you can go to the bathroom and be a better person after. try some fiber.
https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/01/25/14/42/20180125-news-u16gnt-u15gnt-girls-youth-national-teams-kick-off-2018-with-florida-training-camps
a couple of girls from Region 1 (MASS, NY, VA) on these teams.
You mean you are she, its obvious you are a girly-man, keep taking that estrogen Caitlyn...
oh hahaha good one. better than being castrated like you.
What happened to the Kitty Kats!! they lost their meow!
I guess that merger was a mess, a weaker end product. And their coaches were outdated anyway, for for the top shelf events!
Its really amazing to see how this board has changed in the last couple of years, at u13 it was a really entertaining, and sometimes LOL funny, all the semi-serious insults and aspirtions would make my day, alas to every season turn, turn, turn
Yup
The immaturity is rampant. Are kids posting?
Congrats to Samantha Kroeger WCFC ECNL 02, and Julia Dohle NYCFC 01/02 for their selection to the U17 USWNT.
Good job ladies!
Go WCFC, and our sister-club NYCFC!!!
NO PDA, MF, or SJEB Rush players selected, ouch...
Someone mentioned to me that PDA is more likely to promote team or club results whereas WCFC more likely to promote individual talent. Is that true? It was just pure banter.
Well, can the whole stupid PDA club be selected for the National team?
That was USSF that posted the 9:58 message, they told me....
Good to see some local girls representing the Stars & Strips, don't think anyone is taking a knee on that team.
Everyone has to pay the bills at the end of the day. No judging!
World Class and Jeff still suck no matter what
Hahahaha, having a hard time disagreeing....
Haha suck. Now my friend your 2002 team averaged about 2.5 coaches on the sideline per game. What a disgrace and an embarrassment for the club. Parents pay all that money to travel to Florida for a showing similar to NEWS lmao. And what makes this whole thing even better is that the only commit on that team is a player he trained in her in her prime years.
4:13, who are you talking about? Can't quite understand your statement...
The coach of World Classless-his name is Jeff! Not to be confused with Jeff Cup. Brag all you want about having 1 girl on the Nat team, doesn’t make your “team” any good!
He did not write that, I did, I am a WCFC parent, not sure what your beef is, but he is a good guy, no need to bash him here.
4:13 is about Much Fraud the Morris Catholic dibachary. 1:40 and 2:20 both dads still pay for that shit show
Dear Matchfit Dads
So sorry you're upset our coach is going out of his way to get everyone of our WCFC '02 ECNL players committed. It's crazy how he keeps putting the kids first, isn't it? I know it's hard to imagine a coach being more concerned about his players than his reputation, but I guess he didn't buy into that MF way of thinking. Don't worry though, your coaches will never change.
See you in the Spring.
A VERY HAPPY WCFC PARENT
Sorry but this is too much. Lets look at quality not quantity. The MF kid is going to by far the best school out of the group. Say what you want but thats the fact jack!
Haha thanks for your input DOC now what makes that funny is you never post how many of your girls transfer after getting to your fantasy world schools because they don't play. Now that's a fact DOM!
No sadly I dont work for a club and my kid doesnt play for MF. But I wouldn’t want those schools on my resume.
We’re so damned lost. Where the hell is innsbruck austria?
What schools?
What player on the 02 MFA team has committed? I only see one player listed on TopDrawer, but she isn't even on their ECNL roster
Were talking about World Classless you dopes not Match Fleece! Will you idiots get your heads outta yo assess!!!
Ah, now that's more like it, love the friendly interaction! I know a couple of parents on the WCFC 02 ECNL team, and they love the coach, not sure about anything else, but as far as getting girls committed, I hear Jeff is excellent. Good for them, some great people involved with that team, and look for them to have a great season!
Your first tournaments went soooo well. Good luck WC!
1-0 ECNL league
2-1 ECNL national
1-0-2 Bethesda
4-1-2 is pretty good in my book....
#2 team in Region 1 according to YSR
Yes, but that is a lower threshold, DA teams at another level, no way Jeffs ECNL team could ever beat PDA, PF, or NYCFC 01/02....never.
Maybe..maybe not. Different now with the mixture of 2001's on the DA rosters. That will never happen because it would be a black eye for the DA club if they did win and the DA wouldn't allow it anyway. So why bother discussing that? Let's discuss what they're gonna do this year. Gonna be a fun season for the players and parents. Nice group of families
WC tied PDA, beat PF last year. Can never say never.
But I agree with 1:56pm, no one cares. I am just glad coach is reaching out to schools for all the players.
All the players, exactly the same?? Certain NJ families get special treatment, no doubt, but honestly I think it's like that everywhere, they are not alone with this type of drama.
NYCFC 01/02 would crush WC ECNL, and the age issue is not relevant since the ECNL girls just played against girls 2 years older in HS soccer. It's more like 2015 when 01/02 were mixed for most 01 teams. But, yes it's not important, but it's still fun to debate?
They would not win and the coach would not play the ECNL team. That's not a debate it's a fact
Based on YSR the WCFC 2002 ECNL would be a 1 goal favorite over NYCFC DA 2001 team
Ah World Class dada you guys are drinking Jeff’s cool aid. Long season ahead guess we will see where your at come Pda showcase.
WC 02 is a solid ECNL team, they can play with anyone, but the question is...Does a solid ECNL team get all the players recruited? Yes, or history shows they should do well on that front. Most players and parents at this age group are in the thralls of finding a good fit athletically and educationally, end of story.
BTW: I know both teams, no chance WC could beat NYCFC, although it would be a really entertaining game!
1:59 why are you talking about last year? Last year, Patriots were World Champs too. Do you think that current team beats current PF team (that is GDA)?
Hahaha, revenge of the PF dad....not a chance, PF would clobber them. Just like you were trying to do to Crossfit Premier down in Bradenton, you guys were all elbows and teeth, and before you claim innocence, my daughter and I were there, killing time, and getting a good laugh at your guys being flustered, hahahaha.
BTW: Awful that the Pats were in the Super Bowl, again, more awful is that Philly won : (
That’s ‘crossfire premier’ you freaky stalker dad.
Sorry, was thinking about my hot wife, and her crossfit training body....does one word really make such a big difference?? Am I wrong? If you lie America will know...and why aren’t you on top of a light-post screaming drunk obscenities at your fellow eagle fans??
Your LW was quite the aggressor that game, whoever that she she needs to play with honor, and not try to hurt the poor Crossfit girl, she looked like she was on crack....
‘Crossfit’ is just one word away from ‘matchfit’ - hence the general panic!
Hahaha, funny, it's actually Crossfire, but who cares?
I am confused, are we still talking about NYCFC. Sorry they are not as good as you think. This team is made up of 2001 WCCFC players that did not beat the 2002 team in scrimmages last year, what makes them better this year? New Jersey's?? Oh yes that's it.. The Jersey made them better players - Definitely drinking Freddie's Cool Aid. How much do you pay him privately??
4:28, Is that you Coach?
Nope, WC Parent that is tired of hearing this same parent of NYCFC over and over. Not a fan of Freddie.
Hahaha, you are a complete moron, my daughter plays for NYSC, but I know both teams, NYCFC is a far better team, not sure about this guy Freddie, but honestly anybody's is better than the WCFC coaches, hahaha
your the pro, you know both teams. Ok, you are the expert. seems you have tunnel vision.
Can’t be a pro unless you know MF too. Very few people are ‘leet
Not a pro, my daughter use to play for Jeff last year, and we played against NYCFC this past season, both teams are very good, but DA teams will always have the edge....but thanks for calling me a pro!
Someone had mentioned this already, if you look at all the public commits from the WCFC 02 ECNL team they are all his old players from Match Fit, so good job being a homer coach, keep NJ first?? Plenty of families are not happy about the perceived bias, just ask all the legacy WC families.
Please. "WC families" were looking around for the best spot as well. Not like they were just driven out by the Jersey kids and never would have thought to leave WC.
7:17pm- that is a very poor statement. Players who commit are player's who deserve to commit. No club coach is able to have a college coach take a player of theirs. the player's need to perform on the field. The players that have not committed, did you ever think they are not being sought after? Just an outsider- just using common sense.
Poor statement, hahaha? You just called 3/4 of the team not worthy to be recruited, what?? So the girls who have committed are the best players on the team??
I would believe what 8:58pm is claiming: that the players that committed- were being sought after by their future schools. The coach indeed helped in process, I would not claim that the coach had those players go first. The "3/4" of team will have their moment, just a cycle.
12:59. Dom looks like you make your way from this blog to Back of the net often. All you do is try to bash World Class. Let is go man.
Not sure who Dom is, sounds like a former family, not surprised. The issue is there are current families who are not happy with the nepotism that is occurring on the WC 02 ECNL, it's very unprofessional, and this type of behavior also extends to a few chosen families, do your job Jeff and be fair to all the girls!!
Spoken like Dom
If college recruitment is truly the end-goal for all the families, then every girl should play roughly the same amount of time. No way should some only play 20 minutes a game, no way. I have heard that some play the whole game, even the ones who are already recruited, while others not so much.
You play to win the game. Are people seriously questioning playing time at this level. Basically my argument would then be, no one should get a full scholarship, those players need to share with my kid. Plus she wants to attend Duke, then the coach should make room for her and have her play. COME ON MAN
Some of you parents clearly do not understand or have knowledge of the college process. Like all teams, including my daughters team. There are a few obstacles you as a parent have to understand.
1st- players on the team will all have their moment. The top player (s) will get the most attention at first; the top 3rd players will get some interest at the same time. This interest will only be of coaches reaching out and getting in contact with the player. Then continue to follow their growth as a player. Once the top players sign, colleges will pursue the next group of players on a team, so on and so on. The coach does not have any control of when a player will get recruited. My 2nd daughter happened to fall in the middle 3rd. We waited our time. Her package was not in the same ballpark as the players that committed earlier with some schools. The smaller D1s and D2s were able to put some attractive offers for us to consider. The poster from 6:58am, obviously has to be an unhappy parent or dislikes this coach, trust me, he does not dictate which players get sought after, the college coaches do!
2nd- many players get interest from schools. Since these schools are not the player’s first choice, these players do not follow up with them. By doing so, these players end up losing out on a possible good offer from a school that has expressed in a player. I have seen this too often. It’s too bad; those schools can offer you a great education. (Typically this faults on the parents, not a big time school in their eyes) I strongly suggest reaching out to all schools that expressed interest in your daughter.
3rd- I have am lucky to have 3 kids, 2 of them gone through this process, while last one is in the gist of process. You can go to a targeted school, small chance of players end up at their first choice; more importantly play soccer at your first few choices. You can go to a top school and pay for it, trust me I know. My first did this. I am still paying for it. She was happy to be at her school she wanted to be at, downside is she played one year, never saw the field and quit at the end of her freshman year. 2nd daughter, choose wisely, she picked a school that she had an opportunity to play as a freshman. She is having a great college experience while playing the sport she loves. She could have gone to a D1 school (Not get much money) but she choose to attend a D2 school. Happy Camper! 3rd one, waiting to see how this pans out!
I do think it is unfair to post some of the comments I have been reading regarding this coach. Our team has played a few of his teams in the past; I believe he does a good job with his players personally. But there is no way this coach has any say of which players will get recruited, the players control their destiny with their play. He does play an integral part of communicating with the players and coaches during their freshman\sophomore year.
February 12, 2018 at 2:26 PM
Good stuff. But (and it is not about the coach being referenced here) my one daughters coach at u16 a few years ago definitely held the keys when it came to college coach interest. If a college coach reached out to him regarding interest in someone that was not at the top of his list the information did not get communicated. Or if it was from a school that was not prestigious enough to build his resume he would not pass it on. We came to find out that 4 players missed out on possible interest from schools they would have been interested in. My daughter was diligent and has successfully committed to one of her top 3 choices. Some girls are still waiting (2018 grads).
2:26 great post. How dare you use facts? :)
8:21 my oldest daughter had same experience. 2 mid-major D1 coaches were communicating with club coach and he didn't tell my daughter. 2 reasons possible bc he never owned up to it...
1. he was horrible at communicating and needed meds
2. didn't think she was worthy
My daughter ended up at an ID clinic at one of the schools one year after being recruited and college coach remembered her and asked why she hadn't communicated interest back...
PS she now attends that school and is doing very well....
Look out for your own daughter somehow...
I am a world class parent, our coach constantly sends out emails to me and others (we speak on sidelines ) when a college coach expresses interest in his players. I can speak on my own experience, received emails from smaller D1s and D3s. Nothing was omitted to me or my daughter, I know as some schools were nothing to brag about personally. I am very happy with our communication and guidance I am receiving.
Aren't we really all world class parents?
Humor is good for the soul....
That DOC can care less about your kid, he is just worried about who is bringing the beer to the hotel lobby
HAHAHA, you must know him really well, cheers!!!
I have noticed that some local DA clubs are beginning the process for 2018-2019, and according to DA guidelines, if you are already on a DA team, that you must ask your current club for permission to attend another club’s id sessions. Question is, how many will not, and should not, for obvious practical reasons, duh.
An honest club will stay honest.
First question is usually "who do you play for now?"
TM will also ask that but also likes taking players from other clubs, will be interesting to see how the DA rules come in to play.
Jeff Cup schedules are out. The U16 (2002) top flight is certainly going to be interesting. There are 6 ECNL teams and 6 USYS or NPL teams in the flight. Every single game is going to be an ECNL vs. USYS NL/NPL matchup. I really like seeing that, it's going to be a lot of fun.
Who is TM??
If I were a WCFC 02 ECNL parent, I would not be happy with that draw, no ECNL teams, and LHV really, again????
OMG!!! TM will be upset if you don't know who he is!!!
February 15, 2018 at 8:27 AM
You sir, are scrum troll. I see you posted the same garbage over on another site. Is it possible, given the national tragedy that took place yesterday, the loss of life of children, exactly the age of this forum, you'd think that decency would let you take a breather from this crap for a day or two. You're disgusting and an embarrassment to your family.
The 2nd amendment is the national tragedy....and anyone who supports it, like all of Pennsylvania.
This is a soccer forum btw...
But typical to react emotionally and want to take away rights.
The person holding and shooting the gun is to blame!!
FBI knew about this guy but we all know what they've been busy trying to do...
CNN reporting that the USgov is going to begin confiscating all firearms in the United States, legal or otherwise, problem solved.
BTW: Fuck your gun-rights, if you want to hunt, use a bow.
Guys at this age, I would hope the coaches would be playing all players evenly at these types of showcases. Results mean absolutely nothing. The players need an opportunity to be seen.
I did forget to mention in my post on 2:26 2/12. the players need to show an interest in a school by one of several communications. Email the coach, have your coach call\email the coach or even the player reach out to the coach via phone call. a college coach will not watch a player that has not expressed interest in their school. Time is too valuable to waste on players that do not show any interest.
My daughters team has been getting some PF DA players showing up at their practices recently. Wonder what TM would think about that ?
DA? ECNL? Neither? Age group?
NPL? EDP? AYSO???
TM is supposed to be notified if this happens. Soccer world way too small especially when the 2 clubs are 1 hour apart.
Trust me, as soon as PF vehicle pulls up to PAC field, TM knows....
Wow February 15, 2018 at 2:40 PM,
Speaking of mental issues...hope you don't have a gun...
At a U15 DA training? Non have showed at U17’s DA training but if there was to be some why is TM to be notified? That’s ridiculous.
none*
All the coaches brag about this stuff on the coach back-channel network. Its not unique to the GDA.
As long as it's an ID camp and not an official training session it's perfectly fine by the DA:
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If a player trains with another Academy team prior to receiving a release, he may not be permitted to transfer to that Academy club. Clubs wishing to speak to a player registered with another Academy club must state their intentions in writing to the player’s club, the Academy Staff, and their respective Technical Advisors.
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https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/ddh3x0fztgwufv8x1bc3dep1i97t0q5h
Congrats to Sam Kroeger for scoring a goal yesterday for U17 USWNT!!!
Its time to play DA Sam, either PDA or NYCFC, your country needs you....
only if she wants to play with lesser competition. Obviously she is getting the training needed to play up an age for USNT.
Sadly, she is not, playing in the B league with high school stars not the optimal system. She is a great player, she needs to get away from the David Koresh of North Jersey soccer..
Richmond United U16 ECNL 6 - VDA ‘02s 0
Richmond United U16 ECNL 0 - VDA ‘01s 0
McLean U15 ECNL 1 - FC Virginia DA ‘03’s 1
McLean U15 ECNL 3 - Wash Spirit DA - 1
Richmond United U15 ECNL 2 - VDA ‘03s 1
Richmond United U15 ECNL 5 - PA Classics U15 DA 0
Richmond United U14 ECNL 1 - VDA ‘04s 0
Not a good showing this weekend by region 1 development academies against region 1 ECNL teams
What's your point? VDA and PAC DA are not strong, how did they go against PF??
Actually, Richmond not being able to beat VDA's 01 team is slightly shocking, sucks when your stats bite you in the ass??
The point is that the talent is spread across 3 platforms: DA, ECNL, USYS NL
DA is not the end all be all. Those were the only games I could find in the VDA and PF showcases that pitted DA vs ECNL. So it appears that PF didn’t play any ECNL teams.
VDA 01s playing Richmond’s U16s who are 02s to a draw seems to not be a bad result for the Richmond team.
ECNL outplayed DA in across those matches.
Sam and her parents must disagree, I would tend to believe USA Soccer has no issue with her situation or they would have told her to move to another team. you play for DA so DA must be the better league. Keep telling yourself this, eventually others might believe it as well LOL
Actually, my daughter plays for MF ECNL, but we know how lousy the coaching is on that team, just thinking about her future.
Of course you are, MF disgruntled parent.
5:58am worried about another child's future on the blog? Seriously. I would focus on your own child, don't worry about a kid that is on US national team. This coach has been with her since she was 8 or 9. Obviously, this coach is doing just fine job with her.
MF fat boy is a joke
The Branch Davidians speak, protecting their glorious leader.
"The point is that the talent is spread across 3 platforms: DA, ECNL, USYS NL"
Correct. And obvious. USSF should have started DA from the ground up. Instead they cannibalized 70 existing clubs and their staff. There is nothing special about DA right now other than a few more practices per week. Literally the same staff that was running ECNL/NL teams just last year. If they truly wanted to train the best of the best for possible inclusion on national teams they could have simply set up maybe 10 regionally based training centers and made it free. Instead it is just rebranding existing clubs and putting nearly 30% of all DA teams in California. Makes little sense.
"VDA and PAC DA are not strong"
! Exposing yet another problem with the entire DA concept.
How many scholarships have been offered in the last 5 years by ECNL and NL? They are an aggregator for skilled rich kids.
Oh boy, here we go, just spewing the same old crap...blaming the same old Federation. Is USSF any worse than the US Congress? Personally, I could care less, just 2 more years and I am free, but in those 2 years, GDA is the platform that we have chosen. I have nothing against ECNL or RL, I wish you guys well, but don’t bash us. Every family has its reasons for going or staying, ours was simple...
P.S. To all the lovely ECNL douche-bags I have to deal with everyday, best of luck!
everyday??? do tell.
Heard LVU had a scrimmage against WC ECNL, anybody know the result??
Tell me you're serious asking about the result of a scrimmage. What a complete tool box. Another jealous WCFC 2002 hater hahahahaha
6:59, guess it did not as planned?
hahaha, no shame bro, LVU is a very good ERL team...
We love the haters. You know what it means to be hated right? Oh yeah!! Tooooool boxxxxx
Some real douches on here...
So now I’m curious, so who won the scrimmage? Heard PDA ECNL tied their 01/02 DA a few weeks ago in a scrimmage!
I heard the WC 02's scrimmaged last week as well during practice. Team split into two, I heard it was red pinnies vs yellow pinnies. Anyone hear how that one went?
It is a scrimmage. Who f-ing cares? A practice...get it?
LVU 4
WC ECNL 0
wha wha whaaaaaa.....
WCFC 02 + No NT player = 0 goals usually....
She was busing scoring for the USA, hahahaha
The "who gives a f#$2k guy"....so it's just a scrimmage?
That's not a short drive for "just a scrimmage"
I bet the girls cared about who won.
Not affiliated with any of the mentioned teams. But if it’s a scrimmage- it’s to work on some tactical objectives and to learn from mistakes. Not saying that kids don’t give 100% - but that’s a space where my kids would try something new and different to see if it works. Also will not challenge in a hard tackle.
Just does not carry the same emotional weight. Sorry to all tribal parents out there.
Did a little search and found that they played each other at Bethesda, 0-0, AND they are playing again at Jeff Cup, hahaha....
BAN THE AR-15, forever, those initials mean death to innocence...
Wrong url for bleeding hearts....
10:48 seriously?? you really think you thump your chest over a scrimmage? I'm not with either team. in a scrimmage, you play kids in different positions; you try different things; you don't show your hand. it's a good practice; not a win. i chide my kid's parents when they try to brag about the results of a scrimmage. it means nothing and is useful as a teaching tool. get it....tool?
11:33 hahaha...please report the results of the jeff cup meeting. 10:48 may need tissues and a therapy session.
11:35 - agreed.
I'm offended and I will cry to my state reps to make new laws to ban this kind of mean posting.
Was that the real score 4-0 LVU??
Wow that is pretty good against a mighty ECNL team, with a NT player.
Good job LVU!!!
STOOOOOPPPPP. The score doesn't matter!!!!
The only time the score truly doesn’t matter is when you lose, everything after that is spin....
in a scrimmage, the score doesn't matter. in a scrimmage, you play kids from other teams (pulling up or over), you play kids out of position, you try new things. btw - 1 player doesn't a team make, either. it's a team sport not swimming. hopefully this is a troll stirring the pot. it's u16!!
#spin
You should have seen all the D1 coaches there
Definitely more than any Match Fraud showcase game
9:04
Less than zero...
True story...we had a scrimmage and there were several coaches there watching...
#fakenews
What loser college coaches attend a scrimmage Jesus! They would be better off scouting high school games then those two teams. Let’s see what the weak Jeff Cup provides you for wins and loses. My bet is both teams get steamrolled!
maybe they were there along with easter bunny, santa and two unicorns.
7:49 Why would Santa be hanging out with unicorns and the Easter bunny? They aren’t real like Santa.
Jesus actually does attend scrimmages..because of people like you posters that need him desperately!
Heard that NYCFC is heading down to PF to play some friendlies tomorrow, somebody please report back with scores!
#fake news
Believe it, or not, it's true....
It’s not fake news. They are scrimmaging.
I heard Duke, NC, Georgetown, Penn State and Michigan coaches are going to watch these powerhouse scrimmages!
Don't know about Duke, but Penn State might be there, since there are multiple recruits playing, on both sides. Villanova might drop by, they are pretty close, but Michigan will not, they will definitely be at your daughter's indoor practice, no doubt.
#FortheCity!!!
2:49 2/23 - hilarious. heard it was a nail biter. all kids on both sides verbally committed by end of the scrimmage. not a game. not a game you know. not a game. practice. (sorry, it's a philly/Iverson thing).
Great game, sorry, scrimmage today, both teams came to play, good luck to PF this spring!
Jealousy rears its ugly head. Yes there were coaches. and they even had a three refs system. Aren't ALL kid's games really scrimmages? What's the point? Develop for and grab your spot with some financial "relief" in the next level. Whatever that level is for your particular kid's wants and abilities.
When coaches play to win, and talk ‘we want to win championships’ you know the GDA is a failure. When teams put 24 players on a roster and 3 Development Players and 10 players see no action on the field, you know that GDA is a total failure. When coaches of the GDA teams don’t have the certifications required and are the good old same ECNL coaches from last year - you know you are a sucker that switched from one money making scheme to another. Oh well 😔
News flash, a lot of the ECNL teams are beating and tying their own DA teams at many clubs! The DA is a weak system and the college coaches are noticing that. Would love for an ECNL vs. DA tournament to get setup! The DA teams would be scared.
Thanks for your comments, I will forward to USSF...so they can be scared too 😂
11:02 - so surely you can go back. don't let door hit you in the arse. bet no one on your team would care either. and a ECNL vs DA tourney would be great. i think that is a good idea. USSF could care less about any of this. they caused it.
what certifications are you talking about? licenses? clubs don't get emblems without top licenses.
also there is a championship system in these leagues. the leagues set them. so why shouldn't they be the goal for teams? it is a business you know. success dictates in every league. would you send your kid to a team with a coach that didn't want to succeed?
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