Thursday, May 19, 2016

U14G / U14 Girls Youth Soccer

U14G  / U14 Girls youth soccer seems to offer the most teams and the widest diversity of talent.

Where these players will end up is anyone guess.

Welcome to the ride.

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Anonymous said...

PF and Continental have their second try-out date on the same day. Should be interesting.

Anonymous said...

Not try outs! Birth Year ID Events !

Anonymous said...

No they don't.

Anonymous said...

No, 12:56 is correct. Tryouts for both are posted. Second tryouts are on same date. However, players are chosen (for ECNL) by then for the most point anyway. Am I wrong?

Anonymous said...

At least for 2002.

Anonymous said...

I agree 12:52 100% - the ECNL clubs will get first crack at it if they want a DA team. They won't take down the ECNL sign they will just add the DA sign and then can market as a Club that can offer a level of play for any player

Their own Pyramid, will be even more attractive - you guys with this USYSA vision are killing me.

If the ECNL clubs really wanted to end game - they should also put teams in National League.

Will use PDA for this example - you can swap any team you like with them

02/01 - DA
02 & 01 ECNL teams (North)
02 & 01 National League teams (South) will need to play in RCL
02 & 01 NPL teams (Shore)

Anonymous said...

1:36 - With your pyramid, wouldn't only the girls from DA and maybe North get D1 scholarships?

Anonymous said...

Exactly, 1:36. That's why I don't understand all the "ha ha, bye-bye, ECNL" stuff. Aside from the Commissioner and a few secretaries in the home office in Glen Allen, VA losing their jobs, I don't think most folks associated with the ECNL will really be affected. The players and coaches will just move on to the DA.

I suppose if this brings USClub down then their administrative staff in Myrtle Beach will lose their jobs, too.

Really looking for some clarity from 12:11 on this.

Anonymous said...

12:52 and 1:36 What you are missing is it will not be just a trade up from ECNL to DA. There will be far less DA Teams than there are ECNL Teams. There will be far less players overall making DA and the talent pool will not be diluted as ECNL has many weak teams that are not-competitive in every age group.The DA will not have B and C Teams and all the players below DA will be competing to be the tier below the DA, regardless of Club or Team. It will be a merit based system as it was before ECNL came along. ECNL League will disappear and US Club if it survives will do so in a diminished capacity.

Anonymous said...

The coaches can't all just move over to DA Teams as no college coaches are allowed to train or coach the DA players as DA will follow NCAA rules strictly, no contact with college coaches,unlike ECNL. Also all DA coaches will be required to hold an A license which many current ECNL coaches do not possess.

Anonymous said...

So you are saying the DA will be even more elite than the ECNL? I'm cool with that.

But I do think the DA clubs will still have B and C teams that will play against the B and C teams at other DA clubs. Whether they also play against the A teams at non-DA clubs is unknown.

Why do you say that ECNL isn't merit based? Is it because they don't play against non-ECNL teams except at tournaments? I think you are confusing merit with exclusivity. Merit to me means that a club takes the best players at tryouts and forms a team. Which is what every ECNL club does.

Anonymous said...

I don't profess to be an expert on the boys DA, but at my club at least one DA coach is also a college coach.

Anonymous said...

USSF had gone out of its way to exclude the ECNL higher ups from their new DA plans, to which it appears USYS was privy. What in the world makes you think think they will give deference to those clubs solely based on their former status as an ECNL club? Have they produced quality players? Have a boys DA? In a desirable location? If so then yes. There's nothing elite about the ECNL bench warmers mixed with the NPL players coached by some C level coach. As a league the ECNL is finished. On a positive note, the NPL leagues just got a lot better. Look, the ecnls draw was college coach attendance which will shift to the DA, top coaches which will shift to the DA and top level completion at practice which with all the top girls going to DA will also be gone. No one will pay top dollar for that, the money will quickly dry up and the league will fold. Of coarse PDA will get a DA, they should be first, but to think that there will also be a ECNL is just foolish. And why do you care? They had their run, such is youth soccer.

Anonymous said...

I don't care what happens to the ECNL, or even to the clubs that are currently in the ECNL. I was just curious why you were so aggressive about pointing out the demise of the ECNL over and over again.

Anonymous said...

Jealousy

Anonymous said...

Basically because I am baffled by the fact that you don't see the inevitability of it.

Anonymous said...

I think you're right, 2:10. Jealousy would explain why someone would be excited about making the top of the pyramid more elite. "If my kid can't make it to the top, I want to make sure that there are lots more kids that also can't make it to the top".

When the top of the pyramid is huge, and your kid can't hack it, then that's something to be jealous about. When the top of the pyramid is tiny, and hardly anyone makes it that high, then there's nothing to be jealous of.

Anonymous said...

2:01 there may be enough $$$ to go around to keep current ECNL clubs going

Let's use PDA as an example. They get a DA. Resources are spent on that. What do they have for the next level player? For those that just missed the DA cutoff? There may be athletic/latent talent there, so what would be the next best thing to DA?

It may very well be the ECNL league. Sure, it will lose a little off the top, but if there is parent demand for ensuring that the next Mia is discovered, they will come. Get a coach with an accent and they'll be happy to take your $2500 and schedule some games with the Matchfits and PFs of the world. Do you really think these clubs will fold if they don't get a DA? ECNL is sustainable, even for clubs that do get the DA.

Anonymous said...

I think lots of folks are just using "ECNL" as shorthand for "a league below the DA which is still competitive and offers a springboard for college, but not USWNT". No one cares what happens to the ECNL and USClub. But most of the people on this board do hope there will be a league that offers good competition just below the DA level.

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to get a handle on all of the money-grab accusations of ECNL. At least in Pennsylvania our fees are really transparent. We pay about a $300/year club fee, then the rest is all costs the we endure: turf fees, coaching fees, tournament fees.

We've been involved with other non-ECNL teams as well and they all had very similar pricing.

These clubs actually make their money off of running recreational programs and tournaments.

Also - while the DA will be more exclusive, it will also be more expensive. Just paying for the turf time for 4-practices a week instead of 2 or 3 will drive up costs.

Anonymous said...

2:23 - yes completely agree. I dont care what name you call it, I just want a competitive soccer league for the level right below DA!

Anonymous said...

12:17

What club does your kid play for currently? That may help explain things.

Anonymous said...

2:10

It's comments like that that typify what went wrong with the ECNL and why USSF wants nothing to do with it. You think everyone is jealous of you. it became a league not of elite players but of elitists. Could you imaging if all the top clubs in S America cost 10k a year to participate in? Would we even have someone like Messi or would we just be watching the spoiled rich kids of the few who could afford it play? Talk to anyone from around the world, they think we are crazy. Call me an idealist but I am hoping that soccer for the truly gifted in this country becomes free or is at least available to all income levels. ECNL was going in the wrong direction. Until then our sport will keep losing all the countries best athletes to football, basketball etc which cost a fraction to participate in. And 2:17 it's not that my kid can't make it to the top, she's already there, it's that I want to see that same opportunity for others. But you keep thinking your kids something special, I'll see you at the DA tryouts next year.

Anonymous said...

USSF will give $$$ to those clubs that will go DA remember. All those NTC may just go away as they are also costly for Turf time, coach time, and for US federation staff coaches to continuously travel too. DA will be the top of the pyramid and will showcase the best players for the national team pools and Power five college conferences.

ECNL will eventually go away and NPL for U.S. Club will just expand to compete with U.S. Youth National League.

Anonymous said...

Sure are a lot of know it alls on here today lol

Anonymous said...

Yup it's all the scared parents out there just talking. lol
Does anyone know who in the area's (NJ,NY,PA) US Federation Staff coaches are? I wish they would provide a listing of who are the area's US Federation Staff coaches are.

Anonymous said...

I don't Understad 1:50 you are saying ig PAC gets accepted to DA theycan only have 1 team no B and C teams in other leagues?

You are also saying the best way to find talent is by having less options (teams)?

or are you saying indiviidual teams will become DA basedon merit? I don't follow.

Using 2002 players in 2017 they will be on a team with 2001
in 2018 they will be on a team with 2003
in 2019 they will be on a team again with 2001s
in 2020 they will be on a team again with 2003s

The team gets no merit the player does. The club just offers the opportunity to the players to play on a DA team in the DA league.

help me understand your point.

2:01 USSF didn't go out of it's way - they don't answer to USYSA or US Club you got that backwards pal, they don't need to ask for permission - out of respect they sat down and talked with ECNL in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

3:21 here again - you do understand that teams don't stay together right?

2017 U16/U17 = 2002/2001
2018 U16/U17 = 2003/2002
2019 U18/U19 = 2002/2001
2020 U18/U19 = 2003/2002

GS 4 Life

Anonymous said...

2:23 Not sure what club your kids playing for, but those are town club fees. Almost all the premier clubs are in the range of $1500.00 (PL) to $2400 (fc Revs). At four hundred dollars a year, you should be happy if kids not being coached by someone that borders and eats dinner in your homes as partial payment. Do you guys have like a special night that you get together to make uniforms and knit socks?

Anonymous said...

3:21

If those planning the girls DA weren't told to keep quiet, ECNL whould have caught wind of the plans and not been completely blindsided, which they obviously we're). Yet USYS seemed almost prepared to embrace their new role,hm. Anyway, how many articles have I read about the close working relationship USSF and ECNL have? Guess not. And they met "out of respect"? No. ECNL officials begged for a meeting and then groveled at the feet of the USSF who was having none of it. How incredibly easy would it have been to just sanction the ECNL league as the new DA? A high # of the clubs involved will be the same no doubt. Nope, the federation told them what they had done wrong and sent them packing. My guess is this wasn't the first time these issues had come up but it will be the last. Look the new DA is a good thing, the ECNL was the best thing that came along until now. If the ECNL tries to continue as a competing top league it will just make a bigger mess of the sport. Walk away.

Anonymous said...

If the ECNL sends most of its players to D1 colleges and the DA will send most of its players to D1 colleges then what am I missing. Will be pretty much the same.

And don't the Red Bulls and LA Galaxy teams on the boys side have 2-3 teams each below the academy? Sounds like ECNL clubs. What am I missing?

Anonymous said...

What you're missing is common sense. Why would the top D-1 coaches even continue to frequent the ecnl(Now a B league) they will have 60-80 new girls DA teams to scout. The B league teams will get about as much attention as the current NPL teams do, with the exception of PDA is very little. The new DA teams will be picked clean like the current ECNL teams are, before the B league is even considered. the entire reason for the ecnl's existence just ended. Why not just move the ECNL subs down to the NPL teams and strengthen those leagues? Why even bother trying to keep going? I'm starting to think some of you know your daughters aren't making a DA and just can't bare the thought of them demoted to the NPL. There goes all the snooty bragging you've been doing in the lunch room eh.

Anonymous said...

Yes the coaches will scout the DA like they used to scout the ECNL. If you stop using ECNL maybe you will get it. Let's use PDA as an example. Today they have ECNL and 3 NPL teams (B,C and D if you like). Now assume PDA gets a DA they will have a DA team and 3 teams below (B, C and D). Call those teams anything you like. It is the same girls and the same structure. Girls will go to those B,C,D teams with the hope they will make the DA team at some point. No different than it is now. They will have 20-22 girls on these 3, non-DA teams at $2500/ player. Same as it is now.

Anonymous said...

If 90% of ECNL teams go on to play college soccer, there are still plenty of girls going to D1 - D3 teams from the non-ECNL teams today. This will be the same in the DA era. I don't see the difference. Whether they play for a DA club on a B,C or D team or they play for a team like PL or Wildcats. Plenty of opportunity to play in college

Anonymous said...

If the pool at the DA level is the same as the current ECNL pool, then D1 coaches will simply shift their focus to the DA.

If the pool at the DA level is smaller than the current ECNL pool, the D1 coaches will have to also look at the level below the DA (whatever it may be called).

Some folks are being way too black and white about this and taking glee in some kids not getting the exposure they think they were going to get.

Anonymous said...

Exactly they fear their purse will no longer have clout!

Anonymous said...

Yes I agree there will always be somewhere for everyone's little Susie to play.

Now can someone match and Compare which ECNL clubs have DA Boys and how many, little curious on that number as it may lay out the starting point.

Anonymous said...

Your kidding to think that only girls playing on ECNL play D1. There are plenty coming from non ECNL teams today. Go on any club websites and you will see this. It will be the same when there is a DA.

Anonymous said...

Yes there will still be girls who will play from tiers below DA as is the case now.
but there is certainly no reason for ECNL when DA is replacing them and filling their role of the elite showcase league and now adding the element of putting those who make the DA regularly in front of the USWNT coaching staff.

Anonymous said...

Agree but Why do any of us care?

Anonymous said...

Whether it's DA or ECNL won't mean much difference to the girls that play for those teams. And of your girl doesn't it will be the same as it is now.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. ECNL at the top or DA at the top, who cares? If the day comes where the DA gets displaced, will the same poster dance on their grave too? I don't get it. 4:22 has an agenda but I just don't get it.

Anonymous said...

He is the kind of guy who says has a problem with whoever is on top. He will be bashing the DA soon enough.

Anonymous said...

I think the 2nd tier teams will be stronger for several years.Parents i have spoken to really don,t want there kid practicing any more days.Most of our better girls want to play school ball,and other sports,so it seems to me the DA will really be 2nd tier for several years and the DA really won,t inpact my kid that much.My daughter told me she wants to try out to prove she can make it or not and then will be happy to take a step back. I never played this sport,but can see the politics have ruined the game for many kids.this is why so many leave the sport.

Anonymous said...

It is the pompous arrogance of some, not all, in the ECNL that makes this snubbing by the federation somewhat sweet. The ECNL trumpeted about their ties to US soccer and implied all over in their marketing how close they were with US soccer. This DA leaves those marketing claims exposed for the exaggerations there are (were I guess). It leads to all the other claims being suspect.

But is not of great importance. As long as the enterprise is successful and the customers are happy, long live the ECNL, DA and any other league that succeeds.

Anonymous said...

It's pretty funny how many on here assume their daughter is getting the D1 full ride and will be in contention for national teams. Their are going to be a lot of disappointed parents.

Anonymous said...

"I'm not jealous. They're just arrogant."

Finally. Here is the agenda. Thanks, 6:30.

Anonymous said...

4:22 You are the smartest idiot that I've ever had the pleasure of reading on here. Your the same bozo that proclaims that non-ecnl players don't get scholarships and coaches only look at the ecnl players. Now your ringing your bell running through town yelling "the DA is coming"!!
Do the math on how many D1 schools are just in the east coast and and central states and then think about how many incoming freshman there are every year. Coaches will continue to scour the ecnl as it will continue to draw excellent talent. Talent that still wants to play at a high level and also be allowed to play school ball (yes that really happens).
I take back the part of what I called you in the beginning of this post, your simply an idiot.

Anonymous said...

I hear from many ECNL parents that they think the DA has gone too far. Thier girls want to play college soccer but not at the expense of a rigid DA program. It will be interesting to see if it works out.

Anonymous said...

It seems like just yesterday the ECNL snobs were acking like playing school ball was so beneath them. Nows it's there top selling point. Too funny.

Anonymous said...

"It seems like just yesterday the ECNL snobs were acking like playing school ball was so beneath them."

Cite please. Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

Anonymous said...

I think most ECNL folks have been vague about HS soccer up until now. Most U14s won't get their first chance to play in HS until this fall.

But middle school soccer was trashed by everyone. Both ECNL and non-ECNL.

Anonymous said...

Sorry guys, 4:22/7:31 here. My wife asked me what I was doing on the computer and I explained to her how I was gloating over the demise of the ECNL on an internet chat board. I reminded her how much it upsets me that we don't have an ECNL team close by us for our daughter to join, especially considering that we have other kids to get to activities as well.

She kind of gave me one of those looks like "I can't believe I married a guy who would act like this" and told me to act like a man and stop being such an a-hole. She kind of also hit me with a low blow by sarcastically saying how much my dad (who died a few months ago) would be sooo proud of the way his son was acting.

I love my wife and realize she is right. I just wanted to apologize.

Anonymous said...

Coaching announcements out for PF.

Anonymous said...

Ukrainians U14 coach jumping to PF U13

Anonymous said...

I thought she was staying to coach the 02's at Ukrainians

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Anonymous said...

Now people have been drinking seeing posts like that.

Anonymous said...

7:02 There is no more ECNL. Just let it go will you.
My goodness do you think continuing to state parents will still put up with the ECNL baloney of rosters of 25, kids not dressing or playing, claiming you lost because you let those same "Bench Players" play?Face it finally will you the DA is now the exclusive League, there is no need or purpose for an exclusive league for only "Elite Clubs" when those "Elite Clubs" will "be the DA Clubs now, not ECNL. There is no need for 2 separate levels of "exclusive leagues".
Look up the definition of exclusive will you, ECNL no longer fits the bill I'm afraid.
We know you are desperate to hold onto those dollars but it's over now. Try and move on with the new playing field because it's a here.

Anonymous said...

You continue to be delusional thinking ECNL coaches and executives are on this site. Just idiot parents with nothing else to do.

We don't care if it's ECNL or DA it doesn't matter to us. Enough already.

Anonymous said...

You ECNL haters do realize that the DA isn't starting up until 2017 right? What are you going to do? Have your kids continue to train at mediocre clubs and then expect them to make DA? If there ever was a time to get the best training for them it's over the next year. Relax on the hate.

Anonymous said...

She is actually a good coach and will challenge players by playing them in spots they are not comfortable with. Although the Ukies didn't show it by winning against upper tier teams, they probably were better off development wise individually.

Anonymous said...

7:49 My wife calls reminds me of what a moron I am and she never reads what I post on here.

Anonymous said...

But when will the girls DA clubs be announced? Are current ECNL players going to stay put during the tryout period or look elsewhere to where they think there might be a DA?

Anonymous said...

With not knowing who will get a DA your best bet is to go/stay where the training is. It's called preparation.

Anonymous said...

MF Coaching announcements made.

DOC and ECNL director will coach every team. Will never show up and miss games to attend Giants games.

Anonymous said...

MF is done. No DA for them.

Anonymous said...

9:56 many parents are doing just that. Going out and finding where their daughter will get the best training, even if its just for one year.
Obviously many PL parents are doing just that. PL Director of coaching held a meeting last week asking all parents from all teams to attend, not one PL U14 Black team parent in attendance. I would say that ship is sailing off into the sunset.

Anonymous said...

PF does not offer enough 'A' level coaches in their announcements.
No DA for them.

Anonymous said...

Wishful thinking 11:40

Anonymous said...

Isn't TM a U.S. Federation Staff Coach so should that give PF the edge to get DA. Also is that the reason why many girls have national status at PF because of the exposure that TM gives them?

Anonymous said...

Will ODP go away when the DA is up and running?

Anonymous said...

12:09 sounds like a PF parent lol !

Anonymous said...

The posts on here over the past couple weeks of weeks have ranged from paranoid, to delusional, to wishful thinking, to uninformed, to comical. The truth is we "the peasants" will have to wait until the lay of the land is laid out and then we will have to make the best decision for our kids. Posting scenarios on a U14 blog will not make something miraculously come true. The are 2 facts: that there will be a birth year change in fall of 2016 and there will be a new option of the Development Academy in the fall of 2017. Other than that, it is all conjecture. With chaos comes opportunity. There is so much money to be made out there that there will be options. ECNL haters want to say that it will no longer exist, but whether it is called ECNL or XYZ there will be a second level option and they will promote it and they will make money. Not all the most talented players will go to the DA just like not all the most talented players currently play in ECNL. That will continue to be true for various reasons. Post your thoughts, but that is all it is - your guess or wish. It is not known what the landscape will be 2 years from now - no one knows at this time. So just have fun with it.

Anonymous said...

Am I the only one who wishes they would have done both the DA and the BYC at the same time. Every team is going to change dramatically next fall and the again a year later when the top players go DA. I think both are good for the sport but I see the next 2-3 years being a mess of player migration and it's happening at a very important part of our daughter recruiting window.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely 7:09. It would have made the most sense. But they are not as organized as they might want us to think.

Anonymous said...

11:35 PM

DOC has no one but himself to blame. 5 years ago PAC had no real girls or youth(4-8) programs to speak of. They are now outperforming and out recruiting PL at every age group but our(and maybe the 97's but they graduate this year). And Classics is now a year away from getting a girls DA and when they do it will all over for PL. Its a shame, plenty of coaches, parents and even players have spoken to him but he seems content to run a rec club. So be it.

Anonymous said...

I checked a couple of boys DA team rosters. They all seem to keep 32 players on the roster pretty much evenly split between birth years. So there are only 16 spots on each team for each birth year. Maybe girls will be different but my guess is not. Therefore there are less spots than current ECNLnteams carry. Add to that the girls from other clubs who will try out and it will be very competitive. That said, there will be plenty of talented girls to play ECNL, NPL, EDP or whatever the structure is like. And college coaches will have to see those girls as well. As they do now.

Anonymous said...

I take that back about even between birth years. The 2001/2002 teams are weighted more toward 2001 players at least 60:40. Also as you would expect a lot of birthdays in the January to April time frame for each birth year. Not always a fair system.

Anonymous said...

Not much different there is now with ECNL. But to the earlier post, would you rather be 1 of 20 to 22 girls on an ECNL with the chance for development or not one of the 12-16 on the DA. Interesting question. If it is all about development the answer is simple. But as we all know we and our girls don't always see it that way.

Anonymous said...

Goof Job Penn Fusion - clearly labeled your pyramid.

U15 GIRLS 2002
Wednesday 4/27/16 (6:45 PM - 8:15 PM)
Wednesday 5/4/16 (5:30 PM - 7:00 PM )
ECNL (ELITE)
NPL (PREMIER)
UNITED (A LEVEL)
EAGLES (B/C LEVEL)


U16 GIRLS 2001
Monday 5/2/16 (5:30 PM - 7:00 PM)
Monday 5/9/16 (5:30 PM - 7:00 PM)
ECNL (ELITE)
NPL (PREMIER)
UNITED (A LEVEL)
EAGLES (B/C LEVEL)

Anonymous said...

CFC Delco - good job getting your dates out there before everyone

U15 ECNL/NPL 2002
Monday, May 02, 2016
Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:30 - 8 PM

U16 ECNLNPL 2001
Monday, May 02, 2016
Wednesday, May 04, 2016

Anonymous said...

Nice PDA as well

U15 PDA Storm/Dragons 2002
April 26th
May 10th 6:30 -8pm

U16 PDA Splash/Hornets 2001
April 26th
May 10th 8-9:30 pm

Anonymous said...

8:02 The shame of it is that PL does some honorable things well that most clubs don't do. Not allowing the use of guest players during the year or even allowing outside players to practice with teams (even after tryouts).
But you are right, the DOC puts no stock in the idea that teams need to be flighted high in order to be seen. The only important thing to him, is that there are kids playing soccer and the level at which they play does not matter.
That fact alone makes its current U14 even more of an anomaly and some credit must be given to its previous coaches and even its current one. Not sure how well most teams would be able to do with subbing four to five players every eight minutes regardless of the score.
Hope the PL U14 team has enjoyed its ride.

Anonymous said...

Ok PL we all get it, it's been the same post probably 20 times now on this blog since Fall.

Anonymous said...

Lol you would think they are the only team changing after this year. News flash, every team is soon to be changed.

Anonymous said...

Continental also has a us federation coach. In fact, at the us training centers they are both there coaching. It's really a toss up between them, in my opinion. Continental has been successfully running the boys da, but penn fusion girl side stronger right now.

Anonymous said...

11:23 & 11:31

The difference is no one cares about your crappy team m(s) or where it's players wind up.

Anonymous said...

12:25 I'm not a PA parent so I don't hear any chatter except on this board but I wouldn't let your ego become too inflated by thinking others are on the edge of their seats hoping to see your players show up at their clubs tryouts. Most parents are only concerned about their individual player at this point and what's best for them. It's not U12 anymore.

Anonymous said...

Why is PDA always the last club to hold its tryouts?

Anonymous said...

smart coaches don't "hope" top players show up at their tryouts, they make sure the player knows how welcome they would be at a training session or two, and then have them committed long before tryouts start. Many avenues to this but truth is tryouts are often times just for show to give everyone the appearance of a fair/equal opportunity.

Anonymous said...

11:55pm PF has pre-ECNL and 5 ECNL head coaches.
Only one of them is a USSF 'A' license and it's their DOC, TM.
Two 'B' license coaches have two separate teams.
The pre-ECNL coach is an 'E' license working on her D.

Adding SB to their staff might help them get the DA, but they are going to need to hire more qualified coaches if they hope to get DA status.

Good luck.

Anonymous said...

DA Coaches = A License and cannot be a college coach.

Anonymous said...

1:17 You got to be kidding. Coaches are always hoping top players from other teams show up at their tryouts. Your team being middle of the pack at best, is exactly why your coach is forced to cater to some of his better players (no top players headed there).

2:35 Your post pretty much hit it right on the nose. Try to enlighten 1:17

Anonymous said...

CFC has 8 A's & 9 B's not incl the current U-14 coach who just came over from PF this year.

Anonymous said...

1:17 didn't say coaches, they said parents. I think the point was that the same parent(s) are always on here talking about the demise of their team/club. Most who read this blog do not give a shit. I assume your one of their parents.

Anonymous said...

Because we all know there are NO coaches on here!

Anonymous said...

No Ultimate Cup talk? I'm shocked. Richmond ECNL must be terrible.

Anonymous said...

3:55 PL, PF, PAC and PA parents are definitely crybabies and whiners, but assholes like you are even worse. You make other NPL parents on here look bad with your inane remarks. But good luck to your daughter and hopefully with the DA coming, she'll be able to make an ECNL team and find out what's its like to be on a team where everyone does give a shit.

Anonymous said...

A lack of coaches with top licenses was one of the things the USSF criticized the ECNL for in their meeting. Looks like PF has some hiring to do. Interestingly just a couple months ago USYS made changes to their requirements for their Regional(champions) and national league coaches. I believe it required at least 1 C licensed coach on the sidelines of every game this spring and will go "up" every year so that at the end of 5 there must be at least 1 A and no one with less than a C can even be on the teams sidelines. Now if we can just ban the "parent coaches" from the spectator sidelines....

Anonymous said...

APC Premier Cup 2016- Girls Weekend

Girls U14 Premier
PTS
4 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01 (33.59)
3 CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F (32.08)
1 PIPELINE BLACK (32.32)

4 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (34.24)
2 LDC UNITED ATTACK (33.58)
1 BETHESDA SC FORCE 01 (31.83)

Semi Finals
FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01 (VA)
LDC UNITED ATTACK (PAE)

MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)
CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F (PAE)

Some Sub plots from Day 1 EDP South #7 Pipeline who finished tied with Rage & Jersey Shore Boca in pts lost to the NorthEast Girls NPL #8. Also the PAGS champion not beating WAGS D1 #3 was also a little bit of a shock - reading this board I expected more from PAGS teams. youthsoccerrankingsusa predicted the ECNL team as champion. I put their U14 ranking pts in ( ) as a reminder.

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2016 Ultimate Cup (Girls Weekend)
6 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (34.15)
1 SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (31.90)
1 VSA NPL ELITE 01 (31.34)

4 SAC PREMIER BLUE (31.87)
2 NORTH UNION UNITED 01F WAVE (32.49)
1 RICHMOND UNITED U13 ECNL (0.00)

Semi-Finals
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)
NORTH UNION UNITED 01F WAVE (PAE)

SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)
SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)

Sub plots from Ultimate PAC as predicted by youth soccer rankings usa to have an easy time is living up to the prediction although them beating EDP South D2 champion by 1 goal was a disappoinment.

Anonymous said...

Maryland Utd ECNL should win easy.

Richmond ECNL is not that good. Seeing how bad they did at Ultimate Cup, just wait and see how bad they do Jefferson Cup. Not sure why their tournament=not director thinks it's good for that team to get stomped year after year.

Anonymous said...

I think the Richmond Utd teams are all playing up, not saying the are good, but those results are against older teams.

Anonymous said...

PDA can be last, the others can't. BTW, tryouts are a sham. Clubs only add a small number of kids and they know who they are before tryouts in 90% of the cases. Many clubs already have a ton of 16/17 offers out.

Anonymous said...

8:35 that team is u13 playing up - don't worry the u14 team will be ready

Anonymous said...

2016 REGION I CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Saturday, February 27, 2016
0 - LOUDOUN SOCCER 01 G RED
2 - 1776 UNITED FC XTREME 2

Anonymous said...

so I hear MF losing another coach, my friend is unclear what to do for next year. MF going from 3 teams to 2 teams at every age group. His daughter may be out or on a large roster. Sucks for him

Anonymous said...

Join FC Crush.

Anonymous said...

At PF birth year event today TM pulled aside all of the Legacy girls and had a separate conversation with them. Hhhmmm...wonder what was said. Most of those girls have also been to the Continental events as well.

Anonymous said...

He said "I'll take all of you except the one whose dad signs his blog PL Parent.

Anonymous said...

So do the PL girls all stick together and all go to PF? Do they all go to Continental because of possible DA? Or do they split up with some going to each?

Anonymous said...

He's going to tell families anything they want to hear until they register their credit card. Good luck after that.

Anonymous said...

Yea because Continental is getting the DA. It was decided. Smh

Anonymous said...

You're forgetting the club option that is much closer and who also may be getting a DA next year.

Anonymous said...

Those PF parents must be getting worried . Looks like their littie Mia's will be getting the axe !

Anonymous said...

What the PL girls decide could definitely swing the balance of power in PA.

Anonymous said...

Talk about being over dramatic.

Anonymous said...

Hhmmm why do I get the feeling we have some penn legacy parents on here this afternoon?? Talk your kids up some more. Its not at all transparent.

Anonymous said...

I don't think they need talking up , their talent speaks for itself .

Anonymous said...

No wonder why this blog calls you parents annoying. Good luck to the club that has to endure you.

Anonymous said...

2:56 and others. I agree there is way too much PL chatter on here. I'd rather see some tournament teams and league trash talk going on. Some good analysis from GS 4 Life and Soccer Nut on what's happening in the soccer world is always a good read too. With all the DA talk, have to ask of of you to look back and ask yourself how much did the DA impact the boys side? Mainly asking regarding scholarships and high level players staying with their original clubs?
PL Parent

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion has at least 7with A licenses now and 2 with B going to take the A license this year. I think they are probably better off than just about any other club there.
That said. No doubt PA Classics will get the GDA. Having been credited 9rightly or wrongly) with Christian Pulisic's development, they are an absolute shoo in.

The question remains who else gets it and what exactly does it mean. My older ECNL player says to me no way would I give up High school ball. But a seventh grader now, would never have experienced it, so may not know what they are missing. Has anyone talked to their kids about giving up high school soccer? Any guesses on the significance of the GDA?

Anonymous said...

FCV Elite 01 beat a very physical (dirty) Maryland United ECNL 1-0 in the APC final today.

The FCV girls are one tough bunch - they only had 14 fit players going into the tournament and 2 girls carried knocks into the final. Maryland took out 2 girls so FCV ended with only 1 half fit sub whereas they had 7 subs to choose from.

Very tough game and just hoping that the FCV team stays together next season as opposed to breaking up on the birth year changes. These girls are a great footballing side and really play for each other.

Hoping they carry this great start on to Jeff Cup and Nationals in Denver. Jeff Cup will be challenging with half the squad missing through injury, ODP Europe and vacations.

Anonymous said...

The arrogance is in full effect today. Have fun with that PA.

Anonymous said...

1776 vs Loudoun was a very close match. 0-0 at half and two late goals by 1776. Classic case of first team that scores will win. 1776 deserved the win but very similar teams.

Anonymous said...

FCV United Elite '01 is an NPL team?

thanks

Anonymous said...

Only way your kid gets cut is if she clearly does not belong, she is uncoachable and or a cancer, or the parents are problems.

Anonymous said...

Well 5:06 they definitely all could get bids but some will get them for the NPL team and just because some may make ecnl doesn't mean they'll be starters. Be careful with that arrogance.

Anonymous said...

Its kind of weird seeing tryout talk this early in the season. Are any of the NY, NJ teams hosting "pre-tryout birth year evaluations"? Or is just one PA team trying to beat the other to the punch?

Anonymous said...

When talking ECNL these clubs secure players they want before tryouts and tryouts are not that far away.

Anonymous said...

I am tired of hearing about how clubs have so many A license coaches.

Penn Fusion has 3 A licensed coaches on the girls side.

CFC has 4 A licensed Coaches on the girls side.

PAC is harder to figure out, they really do not list all their coaches and what license they have.

Stop counting the coaches on the boys side.

Anonymous said...

8:38 there are 2 posters - 1 claims FCV Elite is the NPL team and the defending champion and there was another that claims FCV Premier is the NPL team. Either way I believe google, see below FCV Elite is not the NPL team mr Anonymous

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=47190&GroupID=463519

NPL Finals 7/9/2015 - 7/13/2015
Girls U13

Flight Ranking Value: 10000
Champion NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (MA)
Finalist JFC STORM 01/02 (FL)
Semi-Finalist FC PORTLAND-01G-ECNL (OR)
Semi-Finalist PDA NORTH 01 NPL (NJ)

Additional Teams
BATON ROUGE BRSC 02 G BLACK (LA)
EAGLES WHITE (CAS)
ELITE GIRLS ACADEMY MAROON 01/02 (NE)
FC ALLIANCE 02G NPL (TN)
FC VIRGINIA FCV AUFC NPL '01 (VA)
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
OKLAHOMA FC OFC 02 (OK)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)

Anonymous said...

2016 REGION I CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
Sunday, February 28, 2016

2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
0 LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED

0 RHINOS ELITE SC 01/02
4 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE

5 1776 UNITED FC XTREME
1 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED

0 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES
0 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK

UNREPORTED:

2/6/2016
CENTURY V 0102 GOLD
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT

2/13/2016
CENTURY V 0102 GOLD
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED

SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK

2/14/2016
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT

2/21/2016
CENTURY V 0102 GOLD
1776 UNITED FC XTREME

SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE
FC FREDERICK '01

2/27/2016
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK
FC FREDERICK '01

Anonymous said...

Only 1 of PFs ECNL teams will have an A level coach next yr, while 3 of the NPL teams will. Strange. But the 2 B's could have their A's before tryouts next year so probably not a big deal. It is fair to discuss liscences club wide though. It's not like a coach is limited to boys or girls teams only.

Anonymous said...

On the PF site there is only one coach listed on both the boys and girls. So it sure seems to me that at PF coaches are limited to either boys or girls. Also, the boys and girls games are totally different. So they will be coached differently.

Anonymous said...

Boys and girls need to be coached differently but the game they play is not "totally different". When we talk about elevating the girls game we mean faster speed of play, better technical ability, and more creativity. In other words more like boys. Of course we can say US men's team also needs to improve on those to be competitive with the top Countries in the world. If your thinking was true there would be a Girls A License and a seperate Boys A License. There is a rule against younger male coaches coaching older female teams. Other than that's it's just a matter of the individual coaches ability to deal with girls vs boys. Some can, some can't.

Anonymous said...

Top 10 u14 Tournaments over the past 12 months - only Delco & EDP left that's open to teams, NJ Cup for NJ teams and ERCNL for ECNL teams only

1 Surf Cup
2 Jefferson Cup - Girls
3 Spirit United Kickoff Classic
4 Players Showcase
5 FC DELCO Players Cup
6 WAGS
7 EDP Open Cup
8 US Club New Jersey Cup
9 ECNL National Finals
10 Vegas Cup - MLK Weekend

Anonymous said...

Women's soccer isn't broke why is everyone chiming or changing the model. Sorry but since the days of Mia Hamm U.S. has always drew strong U.S. players to the sport unlike on the Men's side. Face facts if the men's team does not advance in this summer Olympics and the WNT medals many will question the current model once again. I hope U.S. Federation pays very close attention this summer.

Anonymous said...

2/27 7:59
Looks like a good start for PAC this past weekend.
GF 15, no goals allowed all weekend

Anonymous said...

How come no NJ teams doing Region 1 Champions League this Spring?


Another P? Parent

Anonymous said...

10:10
Ban on NJ soccer moms

Anonymous said...

Coaching licenses in this discussion are relevant because they are one of the key components of a CLUB's bid for the GDA. The USSF won't care whether the coach is currently coaching boys or girls all of the licenses will be considered in the application. Further, no doubt the two prominent PF B license coaches are already signed up for an A course and notes will be made on the anticipated date that license will be awarded to those 2 guys. PF in in a good position to offer a strong application but...

Though CFC boys DA program has struggled, it is unclear how much weight a poor boys DA club position will carry in the evaluation process. Could actually be a negative. Penn Fusion has a great history of developing little boys and then passing them off to Union DA. DA actually posts the boys "developmental" club on the website. I would think that relationship with Union and a strong history of also developing boys would tilt the scales in their favor.

That said PAC is a no brainer to get GDA. Having been credited with developing Christian Pulisic, the Mallory Pugh of the men's side, they will be the first club admitted. Their little girls program is adequate. The older girls programs are terrible because they let them deteriorate in the face of building the boys side during Pulisic's ascendancy. But they have tried to make a difference there for this year in a brilliant hire of TH. TH is the primary PAE scout for girls for the USSF. He runs the NTC where his second in command is TM. He is the most powerful PA girls side player with the USSF and now is a PAC '00 coach for 2016. Smart again Steve.

Anonymous said...

11:28
Now this is why I read this blog.
Good information with solid credibility

Anonymous said...

Cue the guy who hates PA soccer in 3, 2, 1...

Anonymous said...

Despite what 7:48 says, there were two FCV teams playing in the Virginia Premier League last year. The one playing in the FCV slot, FCV Elite, won the league and went on to play in the National event. This team still plays in VPL and has already secured a spot at the NPL National event in Denver, as stated in the 6:34pm posting yesterday.

So yes, FCV's B team, which plays NPL, beat the Maryland United ECNL A team.

There was a second FCV team playing in VPL last year under the umbrella of the Annandale UFC. They did not do well in the league. For some reason/mistake, they were listed as the FCV team playing at Nationals (see how the team listed in 7:48's post has AUFC in the title) but they did not qualify for Nationals . However, people like 7:48 continue to believe that they made it. You can check the VPL standings yourself to verify: http://virginianpl.demosphere.com/schedules/Spring2015/75463040.html

FCV Elite is a very good team and with their win over Maryland United, I'd ranked them as the 4th best 01G team in DC/Maryland/Virginia area right now, behind FCV ECNL, BRYC and Bethesda ECNL.

Anonymous said...

What other clubs developed talented players at a younger age to which moved to an ecnl club over for their high school years?

Wouldn't some of those clubs have a chance at GDA?

Anonymous said...

11:28 just clueless

http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/academy/u14
http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/academy/u16
http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/academy/u18

I see 3 PF players across those three teams.
More PDA, Real NJ, and Nether players are on there.
I see 15 CFC players there.

This is information that anyone can look up, so to spin this off like some bad Ted Cruz jargon is just asinine. Downright embarrassing.

And if you want to point to the girls side, PF has 7 players from West Chester across their oldest 4 ECNL teams. Across those same teams, they have 14 out of state players. You can easily look this up. PF does not have a stellar history of developing their players. They are #1 when it comes to recruiting, though. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Hmmm

Thanks for the FCV clarification.

Seems Jeff Cup didnt flight them correctly and we should expect that they sail through the division.

In a few weeks you should be properly vindicated, 12:41. And FCV Elite will be one to watch in Aurora.

Anonymous said...

With a full roster, FCV Elite should easily win its flight but with player absences and injuries, I wouldn't bet on them winning their brackets.

Anonymous said...

I wont worry about them for nationals then either

Anonymous said...

7:48 here - I posted a GotSoccer link showing that team in the Finals, another poster making an argument for FC Frederick said the same exact thing. Until we see this year's link from Denver - FCV AUFC are the defending VA NPL Champions. Dude just calling it like I see it.


Anonymous said on January 29, 2016 at 3:41 PM
"FCV United Premier
88th ranked team in Virginia
EIGHTY-EIGHTH"

Anonymous said...

9:53 Isn't it amazing how well PAC does when they are in tournaments with the level of play being similar to PAGS?

Anonymous said...

1:55 here

2016 Ultimate Cup (Girls Weekend)
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (34.15)
SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (31.90)
VSA NPL ELITE 01 (31.34)
NORTH UNION UNITED 01F WAVE (32.49)

According to Youth Soccer rankings USA in 4 games they should have a +11 GD
they did good by winning by +15 exactly what they were supposed to do. I've been hard on them recently bu they did what they had to do.


Anonymous said...

Wrong 1:19. At least 30 or more on top four PF ECNL teams are from West chester area. You know you can actually live in a nearby town with a different name but play your whole soccer life with a club in west chester, right?

Anonymous said...

2:23 That's just incorrect. Nearby places like Malvern, Exton, Newtown Square, Downingtown, Glen Mills, Garnet Valley, etc., have local town clubs that offer youth soccer leagues. It is very rare that players at U9 start off at West Chester, unless they had an older sibling on a team.

But let's take a look at some not quite so close clubs that wouldn't have played their youth soccer at WC : Carlisle, Gilbertsville, Mechanicsburg, Lititz, Allentown, Dillsburg, Royersford, Doylestown, Leola, Bryn Mawr, Blakeslee, Lancaster, Drexel Hill Manheim, Orefield, Camp Hill, Reinholds, Yardley, Ardmore, Collegeville, etc.

You can look all this up.
Your number of 30 may be true for being recruited at the ECNL level, but no, they most certainly did not play their 'whole soccer life' at WC. They have been recruited.
Don't preach development and 'A' licenses that just aren't true. Your day of reckoning is almost here..... so have a nice day!

Anonymous said...

Shut up already about this subject please!!

Anonymous said...

The level of hate from CFC to PF lately is high. Disgruntled parents? Coach? Who knows but the attacks keep coming, from field rentals, to number of coaches with A license, to now how many kids played for PF and for how long.

Anonymous said...

1:55 here again even though GS has a different FCV team I believe our poster
and have updated my access db for tracking - love this stuff
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Qualified for Denver
Omaha Elite Girls Academy Maroon 01/02 (NE)
De Anza Force 01G Blue (CA)
FC Virginia United Elite 01 (VA)
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The NPL Northeast Girls League starts up this weekend, with a 1 vs 2 match up. PDA South can move 10 pts ahead
with 2 wins this weekend. A MF win keeps them very much in the thick of thingsin the attlefor seeding. For PF NPL it's now or never as they play a key game vs FC Boston who might just start playing more of their ECNL players with the NPL team now since NEFC will be the ECNL team next season.

PTS
7 FC Bucks 01 NP
21 FC Boston 01 NPL

18 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
14 FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL

32 PDA South 01 NPL
28 Match Fit Academy 01 NPL

7 FC Bucks 01 NPL
14 FC Stars of Mass 01 NP

18 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL
21 FC Boston 01 NPL

15 Continental FC 01 NPL
32 PDA South 01 NPL

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Eastern Development Program - NPL Division

No games scheduled

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New York Club Soccer League-NPL Division

No games scheduled

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New England GirlsNPL

No games scheduled but they did add
FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NORTH U14 ELITE for the Spring.

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Anonymous said...

223 I don't think it's necessarily hatred between both PF and CFC parents, as both are inside look out are most likely happy. It's more parents outside looking in that are trying to decide and just can't get there facts straight.

Curious was there any current player roster attending other ID events between both clubs?

Anonymous said...

The transformation of this blog from 90% NJ to PA, FC Frederick and CT not sure which club and it doesn't matter and maybe 10% NJ like it should be regional. Keep at it guys

Anonymous said...

ECNL players are not allowed to train with other ECNL clubs. There were CFC NPL players at the Penn Fusion event.

Anonymous said...

There were PF players at the CFC event as well. Likely NPLs trying to make an ECNL. I think one of the 2 websites says NO ECNL players from other clubs. I am guessing neither club really cares too much though.

Anonymous said...

Elite Clubs National League Under 14

PF ECNL has 2 huge games they need at least 4 pointsthis weekend out ofthe 6.
EM ECNL should add to their pt total while the MA teams battle PF this weekend.
CASL needs 6 this weekend and 3 have to comefrom bewthesda whoalso needs the 3 to stay in the picture as thehunt for the post season gets closer


PPGAVG

Sat, March 5, 2016
1.64 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14
1.64 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U14

2.20 East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U14
1.13 Connecticut FC ECNL U14

0.30 FC Bucks ECNL U14
1.82 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U14

1.73 Maryland United FC ECNL U14
0.73 Richmond United ECNL U14

2.00 Bethesda SC ECNL U14
2.20 CASL ECNL U14

Sun, March 6, 2016
0.30 FC Bucks ECNL U14
1.64 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U14

1.64 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U14
1.82 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U14

1.73 Maryland United FC ECNL U14
2.20 CASL ECNL U14


4:49 their web page said no ECNL players - but the NPL rules say no NPL players with other NPL clubs. It's okay rules don't apply to PA - but I agree none of the clubs care who leaves unless it makes them look bad.

Anonymous said...

CFC really hitting it hard. For the fussy pants non PA people skip this one.

This is a discussion of the relative strength of PF application versus CFC. The only advantage CFC has over PF is the boys program, which through no fault of their own but with PAC competing to the west and Union to the east struggles most years. The significance to the USSF of having a boys DA is uncertain.

Remember also that the USSF has relegated programs for poor performance.

ECNL standings currently

CFC PF
14 6/6 3/6
15 6/6 2/6
16 6/6 3/6
17 3/6 4/6
18 6/6 5/6

CFC has one team that is not in last place in an admittedly tough conference. PF performance is better but not nearly comparable to PDA and Matchfit. Why? of course the answer is dilution of talent. Hence only one of these two, CFC/PF, has any chance at being awarded Academy status.

USSF Criterion-Coaching licenses: both solid- draw
USSF Criterion-facilities: draw
not big enough of a difference to tip the scales
USSF Criterion: national players PF
No contest Penn Fusion over CFC. One Penn Fusion kid is starting on the 17 wc team and has been a west Chester player her whole life. But of course while the development club question is interesting, the recruitment over development arguments made to diminish the club are non starters. Why do the national level players come to Penn Fusion around u14? No doubt for the best development and NT exposure. Look at the YNT rosters over the last year- I admit I may be slightly off since I didn't actually check the rosters so this is from memory to some extent:
U15 PF1 CFC0
U16 PF1 CFC0
U17 PF2 CFC1
U18 PF1 CFC0
U19 PF2 CFC0
No question who wins the national player game. PF has some very talented younger players coming up that are being noticed in the combine etc. There are more in the pipeline and they are already on the USSF radar. The one CFC national player attended a single camp while all of the PF kids were invited to more than one camp. But for an injury, PF would have had 2 kids on the 17 wc roster.

Politics: not official criterion but often important. TM is well known to the girls NT and NTC programs as producing NT quality players. Not sure there is an equivalent at CFC. PF just started up an NWSL team I am sure to strengthen their development platform for their DA bid.

PAC a definite in, but awfully close between CFC and PF. My money is on PF with 3:1 odds.

By the way this is just for fun. I don't know why someone would get so bent about 13 year old soccer. Keep your kid at CFC if you think she's best off there. I for one am looking around for my child. By the way CFC does well as the Union "previous" club status, but much weaker as the "development club" (as does its predecessor Spirit United FC Delco started at u12) suggests to me that the boys aren't satisfied there. Not sure that's a plus.

Fc Delco (CFC predecessor for those who don't have older kids) has a storied history on the boys side, with many very accomplished alumni. Hence they were a lock when the boys DA applications were made. SK was very smart on getting in on the ground floor when he did. PAC didn't even have boys teams at every age just before the DA announcement. They are a perfect example of what can happen to a club's success after being recognized by the USSF. That's why these guys are scrambling to submit the best application they can at this point.

If you have a talented kids now's the time to go shopping.

Anonymous said...

All of this Pennsylavania soccer talk is reminding me of the Cracker Barrel off of route 78.

Anonymous said...

If the Pa. players were that good , they would be at PDA.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they just can't hack the smell on that side of the river.

Anonymous said...

The best ones are.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like somebody's daughter wasn't good enough to make the team .

Anonymous said...

Funny how PDA and MF are much stronger than any of the PA teams maybe if PF/CFC were smart they would merge and so both club's benefit and dominate the NorthEast region.

Anonymous said...

Would love to see last years tournament history between PA and NJ clubs. Although not having any teams in the Champions League will avoid that embarrassment. PDA's broad shoulder at least give the other clubs a place to hide behind, except when their trying to stick a knife between them.

Anonymous said...

2.5 hours from Harrisburg or Lancaster to PDA. Do you think that's reasonable? 1-1.5 hours from Central PA ro West Chester or Downingtown. maybe all the best from Bucks and montogomery county, but central PA nope.

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion is certainly on Match Fit's level - and knocking at the PDA door. Impressive team.

Anonymous said...

YMS
0:1 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
0:0 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)

1776
0:0 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
1:1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
5:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
4:0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)

PL
2:1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
6:0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)

PF ECNL
0:2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ)
2:3 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
3:1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
5:0 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
3:1 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)

PF NPL
0:3 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
2:4 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
1.3 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 (NJ)
0:0 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)
1:0 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)

LVU
0:6 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
1:2 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
1:2 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
3:0 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)
4:1 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
7:1 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
2:0 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)
3:1 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)

PAC
3:0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
2:0 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)

Anonymous said...

So?

Anonymous said...

So what? 10:16 wanted to see it

Top PA teams vs NJ teams

W-T-L
0-0-1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ)
0-0-1 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
0-0-1 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
0-0-1 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 (NJ)
0-0-1 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
0-0-2 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
3-0-1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
3-1-0 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)
2-1-0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
2-0-0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
2-1-0 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)
1-1-0 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
1-0-0 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
1-0-0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)

Anonymous said...

NJ parents don't like facts, they like trash talk...and squeaky obnoxious mom voices

Anonymous said...

You did't beat any of the top teams. Unlike PA, NJ has bought off almost completely with the ECNL/NPL concept which are the stronger teams. PA talent is more dispersed. That is what the above shows.

Anonymous said...

Yeah and..and...our best players were injured or at a birthday party...

Anonymous said...

My daughter plays for an NPL team now. Is ECNL existing? Will NPL become second tier? If NPL will become third tier, where should I have my daughter tryout?

Anonymous said...

For comparison purposes:

Harrisburg to MDU (Bowie) - 2 hours
Harrisburg to FCV (Chantilly) - 2 hours

Much shorter from York to MDU, or Gettysburg to FCV.

Potential future, Harrisburg to Frederick - 1.5 hours.

Anonymous said...

9:05 Are you seriously stating that NPL is top tier? All you bought into is that if you spend enough money you'll be able to say your daughter's almost on an ECNL team (year after year). I can't believe there is not more outrage over how ECNL clubs consistently fail to reward from within their own ranks and bring girls up. Instead they just bring in the best talent from other teams. Keep thinking that NPL is second tier, that comes from looking down while running the race and never see who's ahead of you (look mommy, I finished in second place).

Anonymous said...

Like I said. It works in NJ. I don't see that in PA. And if you believe what is reported on this site, this year MF brought up 8-9 players from NPL to ECNL and PDA brought upwards to 5-6.

Sounds like the "I hate everything ECNL" guy.

Anonymous said...

And their NPL teams are amongst the best of the non ECNL teams in NJ. Top 5 or at least top 10. Sounds like it works to me.

Anonymous said...

10:09 sounds like the Donald Trump of the U14 blog. Just keep saying something and eventually he hopes people believe it's true.

Anonymous said...

Agree PDA/Match do have a talented pool from there NPL teams and girls do get brought up more occasionally to get seen unlike PA ECNL teams where girls on there NPL teams have a small % to make there top team and are overlooked.

Anonymous said...

The only way PA NPL girls have a chance to make ECNL is if PF girls go to CFC or Bucks. There is no PF NPL that is ever getting promoted to ECNL. Most of the time they get dropped down to a 3rd tier team because new girls push current ECNL girls down to NPL.

PA ECNL is what all the NJ people say it is. PF knows they are the best and recruit the best talent. Some parents of the better girls do not want to join the machine so they stay on the local teams. Which is probably a good move for them and their child.

Anonymous said...

Being "Top 10" in a state is no longer something to brag about.

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Anonymous said...

So why don't you just admit it, you love your ECNL more than the other one. Its pretty obvious, just admit it, you will feel better, and its the first step toward recovery.

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Anonymous said...

Question for the group:

Are there any benefits to scrimmaging a boys team, does it help the girls in any way??

Thanks.


Anonymous said...

no

Anonymous said...

If the team is older, there could be injury concerns in 'competitive' play.
So long as it's the same club, it can work well.

Anonymous said...

Not for the boys.

Anonymous said...

12:32 Never in the history of this blog has someone been more wrong. The top 3 NE NPL would win 95 out of 100 games vs EDP. What games have you been watching? Obviously you're wishful thinking has nothing at all to do with reality.

Anonymous said...

Now the same NJ teams vs PA teams
W-T-L
3-0-0 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ)
3-0-0 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U14 (NJ)
3-0-0 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)
3-0-0 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL U14 (NJ)
3-0-0 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)
2-0-0 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)
4-0-3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)
3-1-2 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)
3-2-2 SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)
2-1-1 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)
1-1-1 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)
0-1-1 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)
0-1-2 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ)
0-1-5 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)

Anonymous said...

NE-NPL is the weakest league of all the NPL Leagues this year at U14.
MF NPL is a shell of their team last year and Dragons have fallen off considerably.
Clearly Ajax is the class of that league and their performance at Bethesda last time outside of their league says it all.

Anonymous said...

11:34 How do you know this? Dragons have have played 1 pre-fall tournament and MF NPL also played 1 pre-fall tournament and 1 fall tournament. So these 3-6 games is enough body of work for you to make these claims? Ajax is currently in first and has the inside track. So you are an NPL parent from one of these teams I guess, since that's the only way you could have seen all 3, If this is true then I will believe your post - if you are an outsider what do you base your comments on? Beating Ajax?

Anonymous said...

Agree Ajax is now currently in 1st place as you say so they are top team in NE-NPL.
If you look at Ajax recent results at Bethesda when they stepped out of their league in Flight 1 then you have answered your own question.

Anonymous said...

It stands to reason that if MF and PDA NPL lost many players to ECNL then they may have gotten weaker. It all depends on who replaced the players that moved up.

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