daughter's teammate was invited to NYCFC DA. deservedly so. but for them, it was probably the #1 hold up as she would have really enjoyed having 12 weeks to play soccer with the girls she's grown up with before heading back to the top level stuff. mine is not at that level, but it seems so silly that US Soccer wants to ask girls to give up 9 months of their lives, but can't allocate them 3 months to enjoy being part of their schools, the love side of things. US Soccer is so stupid.
You call it a choices, but it's really not. If my daughters is top 5 or 10 in state and doesn't play for DA, her chance to make natl team rosters goes down to about zero. It's about college and if she isn't playing on the top team and getting that type of visibility, she gets hurt by not playing fo DA. You call this a choice? It's a choice with serious repercussions... The DA was a land grab and all they care about is their own agenda. Everyone hates it but a very, very select few. And they are the extremes that can have it and their kids too.
while the "non profit" clubs and for profit clubs will utilized their anointed status as a DA destination, US Soccer makes a massive mistake. Why do you presume that girls who are willing to give up high school ball, who have parents capable of paying the 6 to $8000 a year DA and ECNL cost, and then also have to live geographically close to one of these Clubs end up producing the very best soccer players? Maybe its the ultra athletic naturally gift kid who doesn't have the money, doesn't live near to Philly NYC South Jersey but is faster, more gifted, better thinking, calmer under pressure that could be leading our next national team. Pay to play is just that. you pay to play.
My daughter wants to have a summer job, so she can learn some damn fiscal responsibility, and it can look great on a college application, depending on where you work.
haha 12;12 if you're the same poster all day and could care less....why post it except that it's bs I do applaud the proper english usage of "could care less" though bravo!!
In the end there are thousands of scholarships given out per year for DI, DII and even DIII will use academic scholarships to get great athletes. Just like Ivy league does. I am sure your daughter will get something, somewhere, if she is really good enough. If you are currently playing at PDA, Jeff Cup, Disney, CASL, on any ecnl or da team. You should get some type of scholarship based on athletics in women's soccer, unless the parent botches it or the kid botches it by getting lazy or has an attitude. I know lesser talent girls at DII college with 50% scholarships. Be sure to play the mentioned tournaments and in the top 3 brackets and she will get something.
6:21 - I see a player who had very little time initially (when the team was playing much better I might add) and now getting more time. Her dad is manager. She isn't a bad player but certainly does not warrant the playing time given. Doesn't have very good soccer iq. Definitely a weak spot on the field when on it.
9:13 - that is why i don't deem it a choice, but a sacrifice. It comes with the territory of a high level player in any sport. I don't agree with USSF's view (you can play hs but...). However, that is what is going on.
Soccer Girl Probs (the Fairfield soccer girls that are making a killing now in merchandising and making fun of the pitfalls of the sport...hilarious videos) has a wonderful shirt..I'd like to but I have soccer. Something like that. It's what happens.
The girls should not have choose or sacrifice. Why not just start in November each year so they can play HS if they choose. Why is soccer special? The best youth basketball players in this country play HS basketball and when the season is over they play AAU. The same is true for other sports. KIDS shouldn't have to sacrifice.
4;39, totally agree, that’s why its more of a money-grab in my view. USSF is not stupid, they saw how much money Us Club was making and decided to pull rank.
I just would love for someone to explain the logic to me, the policy, the reason for the following at u14,15,16 age soccer in da/ecnl, : - not allowing kids to have 10, 12 fun weeks playing high school ball which probably is great for their fitness and strength since that is the only thing most high school coaches are qualified to really work on; - the substitution rules which minimize the # of kids who get onto the pitch and be seen and to show; i could imagine limiting subs to 5 occasions per half, but if refs hurry the substitutions along, it still wouldn't impact the game; - allowing more kids on the roster than the number can actually card and play in a given game.
its youth soccer, its not college soccer, for sure not pro soccer and all the above seems to inhibit growth, not promote it.
US Soccer needs to get their heads screwed on straight, or better explain the rationale and reasoning behind these rules.
Exactly USSF is pulling rank with DA replacing ECNL which they are going to run out of town. There is NO WAY USSF will allow clubs that go DA to also keep ECNL. Their whole purpose is to take over top tier and top tier players and $$$ that go with them. Also they have vested interest in returning USYSA events like State Cups, Regionals and Nationals as well as Regional and National Leagues to prominence at level below DA.US Club Soccer is on borrowed time along with EDP, NPL, etc. Once again the landscape of girls youth soccer will change again as it has done every 5 years or so over last 15 years.
Okay 11:01 and 11:16, choosing 01's for the 16/17 GDA squad is correct. Why is that such a surprise? That squad will be made up of 01's and 02's in accordance with US Soccer in ALL gda's.
And, speaking about PAC specifically, don't they have a decent team of 01's already competing as a team; hence the chemistry and continuity already in place. Makes sense.
4:39 - re your comparison to basketball. You know that an entire bb roster only has 11-14 kids, right? And MOST of those kids don't ever see the court in games. There are 5 kids needed to play. Five. And, I see many, many more well run high school basketball programs than soccer as far as funding, coaching, facilities, refereeing, even importance at the school. Many of the AAU coaches are high school coaches, too. Sadly, that isn't the case in soccer.
It's me, 7:11. I hear ya, as HS soccer starting in November would be great because the majority of better officials would be available as college is winding down. However, problem is starting in November means running into bad weather in the NE area and other places throughout the country.
B-ball is indoors so unless there is a state of emergency, b-ball games still go on in the winter season.
The bs was called out yesterday and it is in fact bs. Confirmed by actual classics people in the know. What do you gain by starting shit on this blog? Does it make you feel good to stir up people's emotions/anger? Have a great day teasing/abusing your pets at home...
Lighten up, my goodness. The whole blog is bs so if you are delusional enough to think otherwise then you have other problems I am sure.
...and for what I hope is the last time for the 2 year olds on this board. YOU HAVE A CHOICE. It may not be what you want to choose from, but IT IS A CHOICE. Choose what is best and move on. It is America, be grateful you have a choice.
Sometimes choices suck and require sacrifice but they are still choices people!! 6:52 yes there's alot of bs lately but I remember the days when there were intelligent discussions on here Nowadays is all "my daughter and her club are better than yours" Parents living vicariously through their kids
What is going on with Arsenal? We were told that they were merging with the Stallions, and then we get an email saying they are staying at the Superdome with the coach they have had forever. I know Coach AV and while I think he is a great fitness coach, I don't think he has the connections or personality to get kids into college. My niece played for him years ago at Seton Hall and he was their fitness guy, had nothing to do with soccer tactics. I thought the combination of AV and SC were the perfect match. Not so sure anymore.
for those who are playing nycfc da what kid of monies are they suggesting to budget for the year. not a loaded question just curious what they are suggesting parents budget for the entire thing
PAC will offer a solid squad regardless of age. Once you get to these older ages, age is less of a factor. 17 year olds on a national team... 15 year old freshmen need to compete against 18 year old seniors. the size curve flattens and they have it or they don't.
How will Cedar Stars compete vs all these strong DA Teams. the turnout at their first DA tryout of strong players was very sparse. Attended tryout but will not send my daughter there is chosen. They will not be competitive vs Elite DA Teams with that group.
Cedar Stars DA, and all these teams will be just fine. Hard to imagine they will be able to compete with NYCFC or PDASKYB or some of the other top top DA squads, but it will be good soccer.
Same as all these other programs that everyone seems to write off or dismiss that persist year after year. Cedar Stars has all the money, all the resources and will continue to gain tractions year after year and maybe be more competitive than the long standing PDA squads. Their boys teams are at the very top. Expect the girls DA to be there shortly.
My math: $3000 for the program $500 apparek, kit Travel to showcase by flight $700 flight (2tickets), $400 hotel, $400 misc expense, $1500 x 2 =3000 Travel, fuel, hotels for league play guessing $1500.00 Miscellaneous $500 My guess would be $8500.00 Id love to say it would be less, and i'm not saying that soccer should cost this much, but that's life. I'm ok saving and providing it. That's what it costs. If you think i'm off, id love to hear it, but i think the above figures are about right, give or take.
I actually did ask what was expected for price before committing to NYCFC. The tuition includes a full uniform kit, training kit, warm up, travel polo and backpack all for $2750. Travel to games will not be much different than our ECNL costs as, let's be honest, it's pretty much the same. All total I agree it will be about $7000. Probably a little less than we pay for ECNL as you have to stay overnight when you travel to places like FSA/CFC, the Boston teams and Western NY.
Whether or not CSE will gain traction on the girls side over the coming years remains to be seen. The point is that won't help my daughter next year on U16/U17 Team and the group at tryouts Sunday night were not DA players by any stretch.
Then you have college camps and clinics to attend yearly: $800-$1500
You can easily spend over 10k playing ECNL and doing all the additional things just so your daughter can receive partial scholar for college.
Now you see why I'd am for Girls DA those teams will not attend other showcases like CASL/Jeff cup or look for camps and other training it's all in for DA and the exposure will be there once schools take note where the best players will be.
359 Totally agree. How can a unfortunate talented player every get notice with those models ECNL or DA. I know where my daughter stands as a player but I've seen many athletic talents players in the right environment that would succeed placed in the right situation - there is no rags to riches story in the soccer world in the U.S.
2:31, so Kaz told you all that, or was it FG, probably the former. If so, you must be one of FG’s 01 players, so who is going to drive little Carly to all those practices??
10k per year! insane!! we are lost souls! US Soccer is so twisted to promote GDA or ECNL that the natural born athletes get passed over.
are you honestly telling me that if, when growing up, Lebron James or Kobe Bryant had the interest in being a top soccer player, do you really think they would rocket us to the top ladders? do you think some decent athlete playing center back is going to fend off Labron or Kobe going to goal just because some center back sent 4 days a week training on some private academies' perfect pitch. our Ronaldos play football or basketball. There were 10 athletes on the basketball floor and on a football field at any given time with more power, size, strength and speed than every single player on the US national men's team.
not enough money in soccer. 6000 was starting wages last year in nwsl. doubled this year. i think lebron gets paid like 20million a season. not sure id imagine the starting minimum salary in nba is 50x starting nwsl wages. more endorsements, more fans, more money.
What will take the US to the soccer mountain top will be the continuing decline of American football, which coincides with technology taking exposure of the game of soccer to all new levels. With generation X, many did not have any understanding of soccer and supported no team, and could care less. In 2017, most kids, even those who do not play the sport, understand and enjoy it. They have a favorite EPL team, they know who Messi is. They may not play, but their kids will play soccer over football in many cases. We are probably 20 years out, but in 2040 or so, the US will compete on the global stage. When that happens, the EPL will probably expand to NY as the US will be a huge threat.
4:39 Not sure what your talking about. I asked the admin when I checked my daughter in. What I am paying MF right now is disgraceful. It was a welcome change to get answers from a club. I'm done with all the lies, should have left last year. And yes, I do know that you are a MF coach, but you'll have to wait to find out who I am.
10:31 Prove your point... I am 99.999% sure the MF coaches could give 2 f's about this asinine blog. Most of us know ADMITTEDLY that the WC coach and his team manager post on here as they have stated they do. One of the WC had the stupidity/ignorance of naming a bunch of their parents for no real reason on this blog, and when it came out that it was a 4th person, neither one of those 2 morally corrupt people had the class to apologize.
I heard that the ref had to repeatedly warn the MF coaches to shut up about demeaning WC players during the game, is that true? What kind of lowlife trash talks the other teams players during the game?
Weirdest thing are the MF parents who decided to pay for this disaster. When you meet them, all they talk about is how they are showcased and playing in front of coaches. When you talk to their kids, it's the opposite. No chemistry, team sucks, can't believe how parents made them sign up. Even top drawer mentions how, at the latest showcase there was 'little quality' other than in a handful of games.
and therein is the problem these days. I can respect pursuing your soccer dreams at all costs. But the problem is most of these kids are not wired that way. They get sucked into it by OCD parents, or programs that have to sell this laddered system for without it, how could they justify the $8000/year making $900 to $1000 per year per player. Of course they want an ECNL, NPL, EDP 1 , EDP 2 and Local league 3 depth at each age level. Do you honestly think that your child's development, success, happiness is priority A above all else at these clubs! Don't be foolish, you know it is 100% not the case. They walk you to the slaughterhouse empty your pockets and you go willingly because everyone else goes as well. I'm as guilty as the rest since my two kids are right there in these club programs. But lets not whitewash it either. Call it like it is.
Agreed. All these leagues and letters and multiple teams within the same club are to make $$$. The best thing for development would be to have a DA at top and then all other clubs playing in same league at tier 2 with promotion and relegation of top and bottom 2 teams in each flight as in all other competitive leagues in the world.
MF Parents and Coach Dom\Jordan know it all... thanks for your posts. This is why we are not coming back next year. Several new parents looking to exit as well already
Hard to tell for this weekend. I see that wildcats have not given up a goal since Jeff cup and 10 goals for. SJEB Blue is very good for sure. Has Ajax played since Jeff cup? I would never, ever count out PDA south AJAX though. Arsenal only lost to wildcats by 1. Anytime a game is decided by 1 goal anything can happen. I can guarantee the team that wants to win the most will win.
SJEB Rush to win it all this weekend. Very talented team with individual talent who can win a game against teams like Wildcats who just pack everyone behind the ball, hit it long and counter attack. If anyone sees Wildcats this weekend then watch how they play, embarrassing.
I know why some you hype up the NJ cup so much - because PDA can't play in NCS. US Club State Cups are pay to play. Some go directly to indiana some go to Regional event to play any team that fills out an application.
Say what you want -but the NCS is the best knock out tournament in the country.
1. You need to win your state cup. 2. You need to win your regional. 3. Four regional champs play 4 Division winners from the top USYS league.
if US Club did the same thing 1. Win your state cup 2. win your regional 3. regional Champs and ECNL division winners play - that would have blown away the NCS but as it stands US Club the NJ Cup and NY Cup are in a pay to play format both go to indiana for a national instead of playing each other and the state champs from PA, MA CT.
Semi-Finals A NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS GREY SJEB RUSH 02 GIRLS ACADEMY BLUE
Semi-Finals B PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE WAVE NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
NJ Wildcats vs SJEB Rush (coin flip) with winner advancing to Virginia to play other State Champs to play the below
Nationals Union 02 Black (MI) Legends FC 02 Academy 1 (CA-S) Cincinnati United Premier Gold (OH-S) La Roca-PO 02 (UT) Region 1 champ Region 2 champ Region 3 champ Region 4 champ
Clueless SJEB parents and Kitty Cat parents. Looks at the NPL site and Northeast Region standings. Ajax is going to wipe all of you off the field! Your teams are yesterday's news!
On another note teams that don't publish their rosters on GotSoccer are doing it for a reason!!! We are starting the recruiting cycle and schools should be able to see your rosters.... We just got invited to an ID camp at a great school due to fact that the assist coach saw what team my kid plays on.
7:54am Interesting, so colleges are searching rosters on GS to send camp invites? I don't think so. Camp invites are blast emails when coming from and assistant coach at a college. The list is usually obtained from various sources (mostly tournaments). A direct invite is usually a result of your daughter reaching out to the college and the coaches possibly seeing her at a tournament. Been through the cycle and most college coaches will tell you that they have enough interest from players that want to play for them that they do not need to search out players. While your daughter may play for a recognized club and the team has a bunch of GS points I do not think the coach will send invites based solely on her name being on the GS roster page. If she has played in any of the showcases in the spring that is where she most likely got the interest.
A suggestion which we learned from older child, have coach reach out if you/your daughter have interest to see if there is mutual interest before spending or wasting money on the numerous id camps/clinics that will reach out in their e-mail blasts. Notoriously, some are simply money makers for that particular school.
My experience with my older child is if your daughter is interested and it is somewhat local (driving distance with no hotel stay) then go to the camp and make an early impression (Sophomore year in HS), follow-up with the coach after and see if there is a personal or canned response and plan for next steps. My older daughter had invites to camps as far away as Oregon which we #1 determined she was not interested and #2 was a result of the West Coast ECNL playoffs. Still could not determine if there was interest from Oregon other then filling a camp spot. Then she received a few emails from local schools for ID clinics that were not readily listed on the College website, these we determined were interest from the coach, she picked a few that interested her as schools to see what the coach/team was like and was able to narrow down her choices (and our budget). More direct emails resulted from the ID clinics and we now know who is truly interested and who wants our camp money. The other rule of thumb is to see how many kids attend, if it's an ID event there should be no more than 30 kids as this provides 3 full teams to rotate for full sided matches. Resident camps are the entre in but are more for revenue than ID.
Our Coach got an email from UCLA for my daughter to complete a general questionnaire and included a flyer for the college soccer program. He wrote in the letter to the coach that he could not contact us directly or speak to the coach but was allowed to have us complete the questionnaire. I wasn't even sure if that was allowed
A coach we recently talked to said the rules regarding contact change each year. There are black-out periods when there can be no contact. A player can email a coach at any point to show interest but there are strict rules for how/when the college coach can talk to, email or text the player or her parents. Contact through the travel coach is still a grey area. With girls committing as young as 8th grade there must be some NCAA loophole that exists however.
NCAA recruitment rules are written in pencil. Anything and everything is done back channel. Just watch the parking lots at showcases. Amazing how all coaches "know" each other!
12:51 - unless you are speaking about lacrosse, the coach can reach out to your coach. So, i would tread cautiously with your $$ especially one warranting airfare to the west coast.
a suggestion - Have your coach reach out to find out if there is interest. Otherwise, this may just be a fishing expedition; throwing out a big net to see what they catch for the camp/clinic. I'm being cynical of course based on experience with older kids.
1:25 I agree. She is just finishing up her freshman year . We are not pursuing anything we have to pay to go see. Plenty of great schools on the East Coast.
Many of you ought to get your acts together! There is so much gibberish and nonsense up here I'm shocked at little you folks know about something you consider so important. Anyone with older kids can tell you that 90% of those camp invites are a fishing net approach to their recruiting. the NCAA defines the communications for both D1 vs D3 which are different. Aint no pencil unless a school wants to get a violation, lose scholarships all for your kid. sheep.
Contact rules are different for divisions as well as sports. But there are definite ways around it as evidenced from Sophomore commits to D1 schools. I also think as players rise through the National Pool system contact between player and colleges hits a gray line,
NCAA Division I •Coaches start sending recruiting materials on September 1 of your junior year (except in men’s basketball and men’s hockey where coaches can begin sending printed materials on June 15 after your sophomore year). •You can call coaches any time you want but in most sports they cannot call you until you are a junior (calls can start June 15 after your sophomore year if you’re a men’s basketball recruit).
NCAA Division II •Coaches can start mailing recruiting material, calling you, and making off-campus contact on June 15 before your junior year in high school.
NCAA Division III and NAIA •Coaches can send printed materials and call at any time.
Before the junior magical date, you can call D1 anytime and if they answer, you're good. They cannot call you back if you leave message. You can also go to the school and they can talk to you ad nauseam on campus. You can also email, don't expect a reply. But if you get a reply, it will be a very general email, inviting you to a camp/filling out recruit questionnaire. They will not answer a question like "my coach said you observed me last weekend and I'm curious as to what you think of my play?" The whole intent is to not have coaches intruding in students' lives.
12:51 okay let's say your kid wants to go to Princeton and they get a camp invite, do you care that it's an email blast? I wouldn't.
These schools are going to try and get as many kids as they can to their school to be seen while making a buck or two looking for that diamond. Let's not forget they are looking for maybe 5 to 6 kids per year and they get well over 100 at their camps this doesn't include the kids that reached out from top programs. Only one way to get in the door if not a top program - go their camp spend the money and have a great camp and who knows, otherwise you can sit at home bring your kid to training and play in those high level events and let all the kids doing the work grab up those spots. Blast email or not it's information what you and your kid do with it is up to you.
My rule with my older daughter and now applied to younger daughter is "would you/can you play there and can you get admitted there?" then you can go or not go Don't waste money on Princeton if daughter is less than 4.0 and not top 1-5 in her class. Can she get 1500+ on SAT. I know your point but you used a Ivy League :)
Grades are number ONE. If you have the goods you can go anywhere you want and play club soccer at the school if not for the 1st team. Grades get you in, soccer helps to move your application to a smaller pile and for a lucky few it helps with $$$$ (non-IVY).
I hope this provides perspective Word to the wise, be careful if you think you daughter is the top recruit for a coach at her position. My older daughter was invited to camps and attended a few where she wanted to go to school and to see the competition level. Continued to receive invites even after the players needed were committed for her recruiting year. Based on our experience it looks like a coach will court several players at a position and have a depth chart, all will be recruited like they are #1 on the list until #1 commits to the school or commits elsewhere. It may be good to know where your player stands on the list so you also can have a depth chart. In an ironic twist it looked like she was #1 for the team where she committed as well as another team and was #2 for another. I will also say (my opinion) that being a 12-18 on an ECNL team may be better than 1-11 on any other league (DA not withstanding)
3:40 I'll bite why? But first congrats to your kid.
ECNL events are must win for the team to place in Champions league, no? I don't see 12-18 playing much in those games -what is the message sent by the coach -he doesn't trust them in important games, no? If they play 50% of the game and the starter plays 50% that's another story. I see Starters playing a minimum of 60 minutes in their league games am I wrong? Of course it's different from team to team. Now the others you speak of -what if the team plays in the national league at Disney and Vegas and qualifies for nationals are you saying that these players won't have an audience and since they start in important games some how girls only playing 20 minutes with something on the line will have an advantage sorry i can't see that happening and either can you if we are being real.
Now if they played head to head and the girls out shined them maybe. But all I read on these boards in the past when ECNL teams lost to non-ecnl teams it was because the stars didn't play in those games.
@11:34 - does your kid play ECNL? A lot of the teams do play many of the rest of the roster in league games from my experience. So when the coaches watch as they come to league games, too, they get to see them in action.
Blog predictions both wrong again. Both Arsenal and Wildcats win and move on to tomorrows final! Survive and advance like Jimmy V said! Congrats to both winners!
Who did Wildcats play? 7-6, that must have been a stressful deal for the kids and parents. Always seems unfair to see pks determine things. A terrible way to have to determine a winner. Hats off to the winner.
Whoever handled the stress better won today. That was it. 100% mental. In both games. That is something you cannot train for. keepers and girls taking shots. I agree maybe two 10 minutes?
Its official, Sky Blue FC is partnering with NYSC to establish a girls DA. I always knew they had a good chance of getting a DA, since they are not an ECNL club. Good for them, good luck to all...
WOW so NY now has 4 GDA clubs - interseting to see what happens on the Island - do the Brooklyn/Queens kids join either one? What happends to East Meadow and Albertson ECNL teams - who gets the goods GDA or ECNL on the Island.
who gets the Manhattan kids NYCFC or Sky Blue so the World Class ECNL team will also take a hit on this one with another GDA in town
Sky Blue - NYSC NYCFC - World Class Fury Long Island SC
Wildcats win 2-1 over Arsenal FC. hard fought State Cup Final Game with game winner in last 7 minutes on a great shot. 3rd straight year Wildcats have won a State Championship. Now it'son to National Cup in Indianapolis in July.
Wow and it was just a month ago we had the below poster writing the Wildcats obituary on this blog. Just got to love sticking it the haters faces. That never get's old.
Looks like the kitty kats are done. Guess the fresh blood just won't cut it. They'll never be the same. RIP kittens. March 26, 2017 at 7:32 PM
Saw the same watching my sister's kids collehe games. They come limping out of locker room to waiting family members after games. You can also add black and blue bruises on legs and strawberries on hips and butt from sliding especially on turf fields.
I did not see the game but I've seen enough of the pussycats to know their style or lack of it. Hacking, chopping, booting, dumping, no possession, no tact, no skillset, lob and dump. it leads to that hacking style of play. The parents evidence by their high class here have always been as low level as it gets. they are too low class to even know it.
Nice try Mom but your players were at our tryouts last week. Wildcats early tryouts drew players from many of the Academy Teams on this blog. No one is buying your baloney any more. At U16 next year, NPL parents want their players to play in Nationals//Jeff Cup/PDA/Disney/CASL and Wildcats are consistently at all of the above.
Yes need to play with a team that can qualify for those events and play in one of top 2 flights. That will get you in front of the college coaches multiple times at all important U16 year. Except for players who can play a major role regularly on DA or ECNL Teams this is best option to get seen.
Yes, and results at U14 and U15 are what creates the track record to get your NPL team into those showcase events at U16 when it counts. Unlike ECNL or DA where every team gets invited to their main events not every NPL Team get's in to the major showcases. That is why those who claim results are irrelevant to NPL Teams are missing the boat(and their players and their teams are missing those events and the wide exposure to college coaches the major showcases provide). If you doubt this just go watch games at PDA event in a few weeks and see if you don't walk away wishing your daughter and her NPL team would have had the chance to play there in the top Non-ECNL Flight(2nd flight).
I gather pussycats are good enough to beat pda and win against what seems to be a great team yesterday. pda went into penalty kicks. Who knows how many were shanked or kicked at goalie. In the end cats go to nationals again. And looking back they cannot lose lately.
Winning another State Title at U15 yesterday and already locked in to another trip to Nationals(3rd straight year they will have done both) all but guarantees Wildcats Averbuch will be accepted and flighted in upper 2 flights of any showcase event they are eligible to enter next year at U16. Results moving forward are really not that important for Wildcats. They have already done enough resume work to put their team in the best possible position for U16 and getting their players opportunities to find the best fit for college. Which is what really counts in the end.
agreed with 12:43. David verse Goliath this past weekend. David won. again. I understand Ajax parents not very happy with coaching or program to again lost to this small club.
It's funny how many NJ people are on this blog,do you ever hear this much commotion about NY, PA, MD state cups NO!. Great accomplishment and accolade for a player to have but how much weight does that have in college recruiting? With NYSC partnering with Sky Blue DA will SKY Blue DA and Pre-Academy teams draw the most talented girls among the NY area? I assume the bottom of the 20+ girls recruited to DA will overshadow any player chasing those state cups. LOL
But not nearly enough roster spots for every girl who wants to play in college to make DA or ECNL Teams. And many who do will languish on bubble playing rarely and often not even being rostered.
Seriously folks, any argument now that Wildcats Averbuch are #1 team in NJ? Can there even be a debate on this? Say what you want about the coach there, all he does is win year in & year out. BYC had zero effect on this team, in fact I think they are stronger now. The girls will run through a concrete wall for that guy, not many, if any, teams have that type of commitment. Hats off to him.
I have to agree with 1:24. While the top players on DA and ECNL Teams will certainly draw the most attention and offers, realistically how many players in a given year and graduating class in even the largest states in the region like PA, NY and NJ have both the academics and elite soccer level to be recruited to the few schools who are elite in both areas like Notre Dame, Stanford, Univ of Virginia, Duke, etc. maybe 3 or 4 tops in each class per state? There are many more of us who have daughter's playing NPL who are at that level or close academically but are not at that elite level as soccer players and we hope for them to go to a comparable academic school with a lower level of soccer where they can get a top flight degree and still continue to play the game they love competitively in college. Some examples are Colgate, Villanova, Bucknell, Lehigh, Amherst, Univ of Mass., and Lafayette to name just a few. There are also a high number of great academic schools that play ad D111 level in soccer such as John Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Swarthmore, Clark, Haverford, Fordham, Smith, Middlelbury, and many others just in Region 1 alone. Last time I checked this was the U16 girls soccer blog, not the elite players only blog. We all want the best for our girls.
1;43 Storm is ECNL and doesn't count they have their league and a title for only teams in that closed league this is for everyone else.
PS. Storm could have applied they didn't by choice they couldn't apply to NCS - not my number #1 but obviously yours. I thought results don't matter to ECNL teams it's all about college placement. You got that but Wildcats are NJ's number 1 team they applied to the tournament and backed their title with another.
ECNL and GDA are about player placement and since we can't talk about the kids - you are not relevant for this board -so scram since results don't matter
Wildcats Averbuch are better than PDA Storm, the BYC impacted Storm much more than it did Wildcats. I give Coach credit, he replaced top 2001 D1 talent with much less skilled players but they are developing quickly into top notch players. The results & commitment clearly showed this weekend. We will enjoy trip to Nationals while many rest of you continue playing & throwing away money at those tournaments in Ft Dix or Tuckahoe.
The reality is results do matter for NPL Teams. Without a strong resume they won't get their NPL Teams into the higher flights of the big, well attended showcases and National events where their team and players can be seen. The difference in ECNL is that in most of the ECNL events other than ECNL Nationals all the ECNL Teams get invited to the 3 big events per year. Not sure how DA will work but assume it will be similar format.
I agree Storm can get their players exposure without focusing on results. For the NPL Teams they must build their track record or they will be left out of the events that provide the necessary exposure. That is just the reality for the NPL Teams and they have to work within that system to qualify.
2:10 is not a Wildcats parent but a Troll/Poser/Hater looking to stir up trouble. Wildcats know we are not the equal of PDA Storm Team. They play at a different level and we wish them the best of luck. PDA and NJ Wildcats have an alignment now moving forward and we wish them and their teams only the best in the future. We hope some of our players can develop and make their DA team in the future.
Classy post. Let the game on the field, the players and your results speak for itself. We can all take a lesson from that. It's really all about the girls not the parents. Please leave all your hate, personal attacks, venom and jealousy off the blog.
Don't blame Trump for your liberal hate and non-tolerance for any other opinion from yours! Accept your wrongdoing, stop blaming others and good luck to your daughter if you're teaching her how to cry and stomp her feet wearing a vagina costume.
OH I think a lot of it is from nasty Mom's. Their Little Suzi get's beat on the field and they respond by personally attacking the other team the following day, their parents, players, coach, style of play, color of uniforms,etc. It's predictable and childish, and yes it's whining.
Are you saying real men don't act that way. Whining and sniping while hiding and slinking behind an anonymous keyboard. Isn't that sexist. Maybe these are men and they are just getting in touch with their feminine side.
Congrats to Arsenal for knocking off the #1 team in the universe. Did the Rush team get screwed by the SJEB merger, got a coach who can't keep them playing at the top level where they've been for so many years? Now they can't get past state semis? It's weird how they play, a few who dribble too much, a few who just boot the ball, no cohesive play. That comes from coaching, or lack of.
@1:22 Everyone knows who you are. Just embarrass yourself and your daughter more. The Arsenal parents now know as well...... Sorry Arsenal parents, he is your problem now. Best of luck.
All I am saying is why do we pay for professional coaching if they just line up the same way and play with the same gameplan and tactics every game regardless of the opponent and how the teams matchup. Not claiming to be a coach but I have watched college and pro soccer regularly for years and I see teams often change their formation and tactics to match their opponent. Otherwise if every team and coach all lined up and played the same way as each other every game wouldn't the most talented team just about always win? And we know that is not the case!!!
Why is this guy on a U15 blog? What a creeper. Probably gives out candy on the sidelines too. There is a blog for U18 you know. Oh, that's right. No one on it. Pretty telling why.
Not to make this a U18 forum, but looked at the GSP for the U18 teams in PA as the above poster noted re upcoming games. How do these work?
3 of the top 4 (eastern and western pa) played approx 22 games or less and are in the top 10 of the "universe" and another has played over 40 games. Over 40 games and counting. That seems like a lot of games in the same time frame. Is there a Youth Soccer maximum amount of games one team can play within a year?
10:02 Yes HS plays a lot of games it's more touches for those that did not make a DA team correct. Isn't that what many coaches preached since U8 the more touches the better for a player.
10:25am. Quality touches over quantity i'm afraid. HS is too much long ball, therefore limiting touches by all players and developing bad habits that become hard to break come recruiting season.
11:15 My kid's experience is different. She is the star and gets tons of touches. She gets to work on her first touch receiving bad balls to feet and not to feet. She gets to work on her dribbling and making the perfect pass so her team can handle it and she is only a freshman so all the upper classmen know who she is.
Are the games bad - yup but they compete vs each other.
So she get's quantity for sure and gets to work on her quality. It's easy whn you get a great pass - but it's much harder to control a bad pass and that can only help.
PS. she play vs girls 2 to 3 years older than her also a plus and of course seeing her stats recorded is another thing she loves.
But maybe you have a bad experience i just like to look at the positives
1:04 If I stayed in school instead of playing cards I would have typed it the correct way. Honey this is just another example you need to rock those grades.
So let me get this straight playing HS Lax, basketball, softball etc. Does the same thing goes for soccer if they play HS they get worst get real people. You those sports demanding no HS.
Touches are touches in any sport and 11:30 post is on point, if your kid is an incoming freshman/sophomore this year playing against older girls and your kid shines it helps with confidence, maturity, and leadership. Things not taught at the club, DA levels. It also seems downtime playing HS where all girls are playing as a team for there town vs club bickering.
And if you play HS and the coach is former collegiate player why would you complain about HS soccer type of play and training.
The only reason why many downgrade HS is because of scouts not coming to games. ECNL/DA never existed and the only avenue for scouts to see a player is HS no one would bashing HS soccer.
High has been bashed for years. Just because your coaching may be good, what about the opponent? What about the facilities that are mostly awful?
What about the terrible refereeing and the numerous assaults that occur (and I don't mean a hard body block; I mean an all out launch into another kid from the side landing head first on the hard, mostly dirt ground...no card...no warning, nothing and kid still has concussion symptoms).
What about the refs that stand in one spot because they can't run and just make calls and just let the games run wild?
What about the coaches that aren't licensed? I doubt many are as it's not a requirement to coach high school in most states and some are not even up to date as far as rules.
What about the back to back to back to back games and trainings without any breaks? What about playing 20+ games in 2 months?
4 pm Yada Yada Yada! What about making friends with elders classmen? What about being recognized in local and town papers? What about going to pep rally's and being recognized by the school? I can keep going just like you can on but ultimately I assume we are both on the same path for our daughters to play college I'm just giving her the down time to enjoy life vs driving 2 hours a day in a car.
Also doesn't college squeeze training and games into 3 months also. So get used to it.
7:15 - as far as college squeezing in games, they aren't back to back to back, better refs, and spring ball begins in the spring so training as well. Sorry, I have older gals that played. I guess that is why I have a different perspective as does my daughter. And, I am not discounting the positives of hs, too. And, some people live for that scrapbook stuff. It's what ever the kids want at the end of the road.
I think it is a badge of honor for some parents to say "My daughter plays at such a high level she can't play school ball" and that's fine. it's another form of scrapbook material. And until the GDA it was the parent making the call because every program allowed HS play and most leagues work around the HS season. Granted it is not the highest level and there are some pretty bad refs, coaches and facilities. But there are also some pretty good teams. And one of the things I have seen is the ECNL top level girls sometimes are not the favorite on the school team. One of the thoughts is the prima donna attitude of the parents and sometimes the player. The HS coach does not have to put up with the PITA parents. I have seen a few players who thought they were stars set the bench while their HS team went on to states, maybe they don't want to play because they are not asked to play?? I have also seen teams with 3-4 ECNL players have losing seasons, parents will say it's the coaches fault, other lesser players, or lack of commitment. My daughter likes the leadership role, playing with friends and having more than parents on the sideline supporting her.
The nightmare for scheduling starts this weekend with Saturday being a complete washout. Plus, with the amount of rain being forecast for the region, I can't imagine fields being playable on Sunday unless you're on turf, and thats even questionable. Going to be a mess......Ugh
I cannot hate high level players when my daughter is considered to be one. Now you don't know me or her and I could be blowing smoke. But what I consider high level is top team for club (Team others are always looking to join), top player in HS (meaningless All League awards). And committed to a college team. I just see the hollow bragging and like to call it out every once in a while. The people (anonymously) on this board have their opinions based on what they feel is the right way to get there. If you look across the commitment lists very few from the area commit to powerhouse teams, very few players in the area are on YNT pools let alone travelling rosters. Is my daughter better than yours, I don't really care, but I know she is better than she was last year and that's what counts. By the way, women's soccer is an equivalency sport No Full Rides to D1 programs and if your player falls out of favor, the soccer money dries up.
Your one of those that speeds past like you may get to the finish line faster but you end up at the same stop light as everyone else.
Your also probably the same bloke making fun of playing at Tuckahoe.
Having been around awhile and watching every level of play there are only a handful of girls if that "local" that would deserve your level of arrogance. 99.9999999999% of girls playing are all middle of the pack so to speak. My daughter included.
Can't wait for HS ball to start at least those parents have a clue what level the play is at. Travel parents are delusional.
how does matchfit even get away with this garbage? 27 kids on a roster? collecting money and shuffling them around? My husband and I are so happy to be done with this stupidity. BUYER BEWARE!!
All clubs have big roster or split teams into 2,3,4 etc. How are you going to feel when your starts playing college and rosters are 25-30? Feel free to research a division 1 school with only 18 rostered.
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 3538 Newer› Newest»daughter's teammate was invited to NYCFC DA. deservedly so. but for them, it was probably the #1 hold up as she would have really enjoyed having 12 weeks to play soccer with the girls she's grown up with before heading back to the top level stuff. mine is not at that level, but it seems so silly that US Soccer wants to ask girls to give up 9 months of their lives, but can't allocate them 3 months to enjoy being part of their schools, the love side of things. US Soccer is so stupid.
Thats why this sports a joke. The only sport where they discourage kids not to play HS. So stupid.
Choices people....no one is forcing you into anything! Stop whining!
PAC DA offers are out.
You call it a choices, but it's really not. If my daughters is top 5 or 10 in state and doesn't play for DA, her chance to make natl team rosters goes down to about zero. It's about college and if she isn't playing on the top team and getting that type of visibility, she gets hurt by not playing fo DA. You call this a choice? It's a choice with serious repercussions... The DA was a land grab and all they care about is their own agenda. Everyone hates it but a very, very select few. And they are the extremes that can have it and their kids too.
while the "non profit" clubs and for profit clubs will utilized their anointed status as a DA destination, US Soccer makes a massive mistake. Why do you presume that girls who are willing to give up high school ball, who have parents capable of paying the 6 to $8000 a year DA and ECNL cost, and then also have to live geographically close to one of these Clubs end up producing the very best soccer players? Maybe its the ultra athletic naturally gift kid who doesn't have the money, doesn't live near to Philly NYC South Jersey but is faster, more gifted, better thinking, calmer under pressure that could be leading our next national team. Pay to play is just that. you pay to play.
9:06
Do tell...is your daughter 02 or 01?
9:13 I do feel for you if she cannot make the DA and is top 5-10 but if she's not trying for DA, then she's choosing so correct?
9:06 I call bs
All I can say majority of the PAC DA players chosen were mostly 01's for U16/17 squad. No BS
I call bs too unless you want to share your initials or your daughter's, assuming your daughter is one of them.
No initials, pure bs
If mostly 01s, are you trolling this blog or is your daughter actually 02 or worse, are you a perv?
It's true
Offers are out for their DA.
And i still call bs
a classics parent told me they were going to have a 3rd tryout for da
the 2nd was yesterday
Seems Cedar Stars tryouts for DA was very sparse last night. Any strong players there?
The only truth is that offers are out for classics but not for 16/17
they're out for 18/19
bs on all of you
Not happening @11:50
Sorry but they are out for 16/17.
How do you find information about CS DA tryouts? Is it somewhere on their site? Or is it a generic tryout?
http://tshq.bluesombrero.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1513862
Cracking up...how different this blog would be if not anonymous!!
98% bs most of the time...
12:03...prove your comment...
Why bother proving anything to you? I could care less, you will see soon enough.
The GDA is for wealthy, and talented players, in that order.
My daughter wants to have a summer job, so she can learn some damn fiscal responsibility, and it can look great on a college application, depending on where you work.
FYI: Hooters does not look good on application.
They were at Monmouth CSE Fields last night.
haha 12;12
if you're the same poster all day and could care less....why post it except that it's bs
I do applaud the proper english usage of "could care less" though
bravo!!
I'm not but I am sorry your kid didn't make it. Maybe next year!
muahahaha
love it!!
In the end there are thousands of scholarships given out per year for DI, DII and even DIII will use academic scholarships to get great athletes. Just like Ivy league does. I am sure your daughter will get something, somewhere, if she is really good enough. If you are currently playing at PDA, Jeff Cup, Disney, CASL, on any ecnl or da team. You should get some type of scholarship based on athletics in women's soccer, unless the parent botches it or the kid botches it by getting lazy or has an attitude. I know lesser talent girls at DII college with 50% scholarships. Be sure to play the mentioned tournaments and in the top 3 brackets and she will get something.
11:56
Maybe they should notify players that the sessions are taking place.
Reminder to the bs posters...today is May 1 not April 1
haha
fake news everywhere, not just cnn
Dumbasses
6:21 - I see a player who had very little time initially (when the team was playing much better I might add) and now getting more time. Her dad is manager. She isn't a bad player but certainly does not warrant the playing time given. Doesn't have very good soccer iq. Definitely a weak spot on the field when on it.
9:13 - that is why i don't deem it a choice, but a sacrifice. It comes with the territory of a high level player in any sport. I don't agree with USSF's view (you can play hs but...). However, that is what is going on.
Soccer Girl Probs (the Fairfield soccer girls that are making a killing now in merchandising and making fun of the pitfalls of the sport...hilarious videos) has a wonderful shirt..I'd like to but I have soccer. Something like that. It's what happens.
The girls should not have choose or sacrifice. Why not just start in November each year so they can play HS if they choose. Why is soccer special? The best youth basketball players in this country play HS basketball and when the season is over they play AAU. The same is true for other sports. KIDS shouldn't have to sacrifice.
4;39, totally agree, that’s why its more of a money-grab in my view. USSF is not stupid, they saw how much money Us Club was making and decided to pull rank.
The cry babies are out
You can't protect your daughter from sacrifice at time
Great lesson or let's change entire soccer world for her!
I just would love for someone to explain the logic to me, the policy, the reason for the following at u14,15,16 age soccer in da/ecnl, :
- not allowing kids to have 10, 12 fun weeks playing high school ball which probably is great for their fitness and strength since that is the only thing most high school coaches are qualified to really work on;
- the substitution rules which minimize the # of kids who get onto the pitch and be seen and to show; i could imagine limiting subs to 5 occasions per half, but if refs hurry the substitutions along, it still wouldn't impact the game;
- allowing more kids on the roster than the number can actually card and play in a given game.
its youth soccer, its not college soccer, for sure not pro soccer and all the above seems to inhibit growth, not promote it.
US Soccer needs to get their heads screwed on straight, or better explain the rationale and reasoning behind these rules.
Exactly USSF is pulling rank with DA replacing ECNL which they are going to run out of town. There is NO WAY USSF will allow clubs that go DA to also keep ECNL. Their whole purpose is to take over top tier and top tier players and $$$ that go with them. Also they have vested interest in returning USYSA events like State Cups, Regionals and Nationals as well as Regional and National Leagues to prominence at level below DA.US Club Soccer is on borrowed time along with EDP, NPL, etc. Once again the landscape of girls youth soccer will change again as it has done every 5 years or so over last 15 years.
Okay 11:01 and 11:16, choosing 01's for the 16/17 GDA squad is correct. Why is that such a surprise? That squad will be made up of 01's and 02's in accordance with US Soccer in ALL gda's.
And, speaking about PAC specifically, don't they have a decent team of 01's already competing as a team; hence the chemistry and continuity already in place. Makes sense.
4:39 - re your comparison to basketball. You know that an entire bb roster only has 11-14 kids, right? And MOST of those kids don't ever see the court in games. There are 5 kids needed to play. Five.
And, I see many, many more well run high school basketball programs than soccer as far as funding, coaching, facilities, refereeing, even importance at the school. Many of the AAU coaches are high school coaches, too.
Sadly, that isn't the case in soccer.
Problem is the PAC thing is bs
Most players so far are 02s for 16/17
That's why it's bs
Not mostly 01s
May 1, 2017 at 7:11 PM - Yes I know that. It still doesn't mean the DA can't start in November each year and let the kids enjoy the HS experience.
It's me, 7:11. I hear ya, as HS soccer starting in November would be great because the majority of better officials would be available as college is winding down. However, problem is starting in November means running into bad weather in the NE area and other places throughout the country.
B-ball is indoors so unless there is a state of emergency, b-ball games still go on in the winter season.
The bs was called out yesterday and it is in fact bs. Confirmed by actual classics people in the know.
What do you gain by starting shit on this blog? Does it make you feel good to stir up people's emotions/anger?
Have a great day teasing/abusing your pets at home...
Lighten up, my goodness. The whole blog is bs so if you are delusional enough to think otherwise then you have other problems I am sure.
...and for what I hope is the last time for the 2 year olds on this board. YOU HAVE A CHOICE. It may not be what you want to choose from, but IT IS A CHOICE. Choose what is best and move on. It is America, be grateful you have a choice.
Sometimes choices suck and require sacrifice but they are still choices people!!
6:52 yes there's alot of bs lately but I remember the days when there were intelligent discussions on here
Nowadays is all "my daughter and her club are better than yours"
Parents living vicariously through their kids
FACT: PAC DA roster is out and almost all 2002's.
WCFC DA will be, oops, I mean NYCFC will be mostly 01’s with at least 3 NT players, how do you like me now?
What is going on with Arsenal? We were told that they were merging with the Stallions, and then we get an email saying they are staying at the Superdome with the coach they have had forever. I know Coach AV and while I think he is a great fitness coach, I don't think he has the connections or personality to get kids into college. My niece played for him years ago at Seton Hall and he was their fitness guy, had nothing to do with soccer tactics. I thought the combination of AV and SC were the perfect match. Not so sure anymore.
Arsenal Team will be going separate ways.
Seems Arsenal is playing well, made it to the semi's this upcoming weekend for cup.
NYCFC DA squad will be competitive. Hard to imageine NYCFC not fielding a solid unit.
for those who are playing nycfc da what kid of monies are they suggesting to budget for the year. not a loaded question just curious what they are suggesting parents budget for the entire thing
i know two going DA guessing $5000 for the whole thing.
PAC will offer a solid squad regardless of age. Once you get to these older ages, age is less of a factor. 17 year olds on a national team... 15 year old freshmen need to compete against 18 year old seniors. the size curve flattens and they have it or they don't.
Hard to say without a schedule, no?
Its more about the travel costs, do the boys pay for travel and board??
11:11, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, funny.
11:11, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
dick
How will Cedar Stars compete vs all these strong DA Teams. the turnout at their first DA tryout of strong players was very sparse. Attended tryout but will not send my daughter there is chosen. They will not be competitive vs Elite DA Teams with that group.
Cedar Stars DA, and all these teams will be just fine. Hard to imagine they will be able to compete with NYCFC or PDASKYB or some of the other top top DA squads, but it will be good soccer.
Same as all these other programs that everyone seems to write off or dismiss that persist year after year. Cedar Stars has all the money, all the resources and will continue to gain tractions year after year and maybe be more competitive than the long standing PDA squads. Their boys teams are at the very top. Expect the girls DA to be there shortly.
My math:
$3000 for the program
$500 apparek, kit
Travel to showcase by flight $700 flight (2tickets), $400 hotel, $400 misc expense, $1500 x 2 =3000
Travel, fuel, hotels for league play guessing $1500.00
Miscellaneous $500
My guess would be $8500.00
Id love to say it would be less, and i'm not saying that soccer should cost this much, but that's life. I'm ok saving and providing it. That's what it costs.
If you think i'm off, id love to hear it, but i think the above figures are about right, give or take.
More like 7K, but good guess, depends on where you stay, and how you eat??
Just a quick question
If your daughter makes DA, why high school soccer?
Who are we trying to appease here?
Please - step up and be counted.
11:18 seems sensitive. Blow your nose with your PAC of tissues.
I actually did ask what was expected for price before committing to NYCFC. The tuition includes a full uniform kit, training kit, warm up, travel polo and backpack all for $2750. Travel to games will not be much different than our ECNL costs as, let's be honest, it's pretty much the same. All total I agree it will be about $7000. Probably a little less than we pay for ECNL as you have to stay overnight when you travel to places like FSA/CFC, the Boston teams and Western NY.
Whether or not CSE will gain traction on the girls side over the coming years remains to be seen. The point is that won't help my daughter next year on U16/U17 Team and the group at tryouts Sunday night were not DA players by any stretch.
Cost will go up next year for ECNL, GDA should be cheaper. ECNL requires 3 showcase events(FL, TX or AZ, and NJ) + June Illinois trip for playoffs.
Tuition: $2800-$3000
3 ECNL Showcases: $2500-$3000 for 2
1 Playoff: $1000-$1200
Additional showcase CASL/Jeff Cup: $500-$600
Uniform: $200-$250
Coach Travel Expenses: $200-$300
Misc Expenses Winter, strength and conditioning: $300
Then you have college camps and clinics to attend yearly: $800-$1500
You can easily spend over 10k playing ECNL and doing all the additional things just so your daughter can receive partial scholar for college.
Now you see why I'd am for Girls DA those teams will not attend other showcases like CASL/Jeff cup or look for camps and other training it's all in for DA and the exposure will be there once schools take note where the best players will be.
And, the memories and debt - priceless. Soccer has given us something else, a new Mastercard commercial. lol
359 Totally agree. How can a unfortunate talented player every get notice with those models ECNL or DA. I know where my daughter stands as a player but I've seen many athletic talents players in the right environment that would succeed placed in the right situation - there is no rags to riches story in the soccer world in the U.S.
2:31, so Kaz told you all that, or was it FG, probably the former. If so, you must be one of FG’s 01 players, so who is going to drive little Carly to all those practices??
10k per year! insane!! we are lost souls! US Soccer is so twisted to promote GDA or ECNL that the natural born athletes get passed over.
are you honestly telling me that if, when growing up, Lebron James or Kobe Bryant had the interest in being a top soccer player, do you really think they would rocket us to the top ladders? do you think some decent athlete playing center back is going to fend off Labron or Kobe going to goal just because some center back sent 4 days a week training on some private academies' perfect pitch. our Ronaldos play football or basketball. There were 10 athletes on the basketball floor and on a football field at any given time with more power, size, strength and speed than every single player on the US national men's team.
not enough money in soccer. 6000 was starting wages last year in nwsl. doubled this year. i think lebron gets paid like 20million a season. not sure id imagine the starting minimum salary in nba is 50x starting nwsl wages. more endorsements, more fans, more money.
What will take the US to the soccer mountain top will be the continuing decline of American football, which coincides with technology taking exposure of the game of soccer to all new levels. With generation X, many did not have any understanding of soccer and supported no team, and could care less. In 2017, most kids, even those who do not play the sport, understand and enjoy it. They have a favorite EPL team, they know who Messi is. They may not play, but their kids will play soccer over football in many cases. We are probably 20 years out, but in 2040 or so, the US will compete on the global stage. When that happens, the EPL will probably expand to NY as the US will be a huge threat.
4:39 Not sure what your talking about. I asked the admin when I checked my daughter in. What I am paying MF right now is disgraceful. It was a welcome change to get answers from a club. I'm done with all the lies, should have left last year. And yes, I do know that you are a MF coach, but you'll have to wait to find out who I am.
Coach Dom and Coach Jordan post on here and other Age blogs.
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10:31 Lets hope they post. They are definitely not coaching to save their club or their players.
10:31 Prove your point... I am 99.999% sure the MF coaches could give 2 f's about this asinine blog.
Most of us know ADMITTEDLY that the WC coach and his team manager post on here as they have stated they do.
One of the WC had the stupidity/ignorance of naming a bunch of their parents for no real reason on this blog, and when it came out that it was a 4th person, neither one of those 2 morally corrupt people had the class to apologize.
I heard that the ref had to repeatedly warn the MF coaches to shut up about demeaning WC players during the game, is that true? What kind of lowlife trash talks the other teams players during the game?
Weirdest thing are the MF parents who decided to pay for this disaster. When you meet them, all they talk about is how they are showcased and playing in front of coaches. When you talk to their kids, it's the opposite. No chemistry, team sucks, can't believe how parents made them sign up. Even top drawer mentions how, at the latest showcase there was 'little quality' other than in a handful of games.
and therein is the problem these days. I can respect pursuing your soccer dreams at all costs. But the problem is most of these kids are not wired that way. They get sucked into it by OCD parents, or programs that have to sell this laddered system for without it, how could they justify the $8000/year making $900 to $1000 per year per player. Of course they want an ECNL, NPL, EDP 1 , EDP 2 and Local league 3 depth at each age level. Do you honestly think that your child's development, success, happiness is priority A above all else at these clubs! Don't be foolish, you know it is 100% not the case. They walk you to the slaughterhouse empty your pockets and you go willingly because everyone else goes as well. I'm as guilty as the rest since my two kids are right there in these club programs. But lets not whitewash it either. Call it like it is.
Agreed. All these leagues and letters and multiple teams within the same club are to make $$$.
The best thing for development would be to have a DA at top and then all other clubs playing in same league at tier 2 with promotion and relegation of top and bottom 2 teams in each flight as in all other competitive leagues in the world.
MF Parents and Coach Dom\Jordan know it all... thanks for your posts. This is why we are not coming back next year. Several new parents looking to exit as well already
Anyone want to call the NJ Cup this weekend?
semi's: SJEB Rush v. Arsenal
Wildcats v. PDA Ajax
finals: Any thoughts?
Champ: ?
SJEB vs Wildcats in finals
2-0 SJEB Final.
SJEB Rush v. PDA Ajax
SJEB Rush 3-0 winner
Hard to tell for this weekend. I see that wildcats have not given up a goal since Jeff cup and 10 goals for. SJEB Blue is very good for sure. Has Ajax played since Jeff cup? I would never, ever count out PDA south AJAX though. Arsenal only lost to wildcats by 1. Anytime a game is decided by 1 goal anything can happen. I can guarantee the team that wants to win the most will win.
SJEB Rush to win it all this weekend. Very talented team with individual talent who can win a game against teams like Wildcats who just pack everyone behind the ball, hit it long and counter attack. If anyone sees Wildcats this weekend then watch how they play, embarrassing.
I know why some you hype up the NJ cup so much - because PDA can't play in NCS. US Club State Cups are pay to play. Some go directly to indiana some go to Regional event to play any team that fills out an application.
Say what you want -but the NCS is the best knock out tournament in the country.
1. You need to win your state cup.
2. You need to win your regional.
3. Four regional champs play 4 Division winners from the top USYS league.
if US Club did the same thing
1. Win your state cup
2. win your regional
3. regional Champs and ECNL division winners play - that would have blown away the NCS but as it stands US Club the NJ Cup and NY Cup are in a pay to play format both go to indiana for a national instead of playing each other and the state champs from PA, MA CT.
Semi-Finals A
NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS GREY
SJEB RUSH 02 GIRLS ACADEMY BLUE
Semi-Finals B
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE WAVE
NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL
NJ Wildcats vs SJEB Rush (coin flip) with winner advancing to Virginia to play other State Champs to play the below
Nationals Union 02 Black (MI)
Legends FC 02 Academy 1 (CA-S)
Cincinnati United Premier Gold (OH-S)
La Roca-PO 02 (UT)
Region 1 champ
Region 2 champ
Region 3 champ
Region 4 champ
Clueless SJEB parents and Kitty Cat parents. Looks at the NPL site and Northeast Region standings. Ajax is going to wipe all of you off the field! Your teams are yesterday's news!
I doubt it. They were in lower bracket a Jeff cup. Also have not played any matches?
Don't come crying with excuses after they beat you down just saying!
On another note teams that don't publish their rosters on GotSoccer are doing it for a reason!!! We are starting the recruiting cycle and schools should be able to see your rosters.... We just got invited to an ID camp at a great school due to fact that the assist coach saw what team my kid plays on.
7:54am
Interesting, so colleges are searching rosters on GS to send camp invites? I don't think so. Camp invites are blast emails when coming from and assistant coach at a college. The list is usually obtained from various sources (mostly tournaments). A direct invite is usually a result of your daughter reaching out to the college and the coaches possibly seeing her at a tournament. Been through the cycle and most college coaches will tell you that they have enough interest from players that want to play for them that they do not need to search out players. While your daughter may play for a recognized club and the team has a bunch of GS points I do not think the coach will send invites based solely on her name being on the GS roster page. If she has played in any of the showcases in the spring that is where she most likely got the interest.
809 Let those parents fall into the trap of generic Camp or ID invites if they think Gotsoccer was the source of contact, let them learn the hard way.
A suggestion which we learned from older child, have coach reach out if you/your daughter have interest to see if there is mutual interest before spending or wasting money on the numerous id camps/clinics that will reach out in their e-mail blasts. Notoriously, some are simply money makers for that particular school.
11:28, some are money makers, hahaha, yeah more 90%....
My experience with my older child is if your daughter is interested and it is somewhat local (driving distance with no hotel stay) then go to the camp and make an early impression (Sophomore year in HS), follow-up with the coach after and see if there is a personal or canned response and plan for next steps. My older daughter had invites to camps as far away as Oregon which we #1 determined she was not interested and #2 was a result of the West Coast ECNL playoffs. Still could not determine if there was interest from Oregon other then filling a camp spot. Then she received a few emails from local schools for ID clinics that were not readily listed on the College website, these we determined were interest from the coach, she picked a few that interested her as schools to see what the coach/team was like and was able to narrow down her choices (and our budget). More direct emails resulted from the ID clinics and we now know who is truly interested and who wants our camp money. The other rule of thumb is to see how many kids attend, if it's an ID event there should be no more than 30 kids as this provides 3 full teams to rotate for full sided matches. Resident camps are the entre in but are more for revenue than ID.
what are the rules about being allowed to contact coaches?
Our Coach got an email from UCLA for my daughter to complete a general questionnaire and included a flyer for the college soccer program. He wrote in the letter to the coach that he could not contact us directly or speak to the coach but was allowed to have us complete the questionnaire. I wasn't even sure if that was allowed
A coach we recently talked to said the rules regarding contact change each year. There are black-out periods when there can be no contact. A player can email a coach at any point to show interest but there are strict rules for how/when the college coach can talk to, email or text the player or her parents. Contact through the travel coach is still a grey area. With girls committing as young as 8th grade there must be some NCAA loophole that exists however.
NCAA recruitment rules are written in pencil. Anything and everything is done back channel. Just watch the parking lots at showcases. Amazing how all coaches "know" each other!
12:51 - unless you are speaking about lacrosse, the coach can reach out to your coach. So, i would tread cautiously with your $$ especially one warranting airfare to the west coast.
a suggestion - Have your coach reach out to find out if there is interest. Otherwise, this may just be a fishing expedition; throwing out a big net to see what they catch for the camp/clinic. I'm being cynical of course based on experience with older kids.
1:21 - hahahaha - pencil. love it.
1:25 I agree. She is just finishing up her freshman year . We are not pursuing anything we have to pay to go see. Plenty of great schools on the East Coast.
Many of you ought to get your acts together! There is so much gibberish and nonsense up here I'm shocked at little you folks know about something you consider so important. Anyone with older kids can tell you that 90% of those camp invites are a fishing net approach to their recruiting. the NCAA defines the communications for both D1 vs D3 which are different. Aint no pencil unless a school wants to get a violation, lose scholarships all for your kid. sheep.
Contact rules are different for divisions as well as sports. But there are definite ways around it as evidenced from Sophomore commits to D1 schools. I also think as players rise through the National Pool system contact between player and colleges hits a gray line,
NCAA Division I
•Coaches start sending recruiting materials on September 1 of your junior year (except in men’s basketball and men’s hockey where coaches can begin sending printed materials on June 15 after your sophomore year).
•You can call coaches any time you want but in most sports they cannot call you until you are a junior (calls can start June 15 after your sophomore year if you’re a men’s basketball recruit).
NCAA Division II
•Coaches can start mailing recruiting material, calling you, and making off-campus contact on June 15 before your junior year in high school.
NCAA Division III and NAIA
•Coaches can send printed materials and call at any time.
Before the junior magical date, you can call D1 anytime and if they answer, you're good. They cannot call you back if you leave message. You can also go to the school and they can talk to you ad nauseam on campus.
You can also email, don't expect a reply. But if you get a reply, it will be a very general email, inviting you to a camp/filling out recruit questionnaire. They will not answer a question like "my coach said you observed me last weekend and I'm curious as to what you think of my play?"
The whole intent is to not have coaches intruding in students' lives.
12:51 okay let's say your kid wants to go to Princeton and they get a camp invite, do you care that it's an email blast? I wouldn't.
These schools are going to try and get as many kids as they can to their school to be seen while making a buck or two looking for that diamond. Let's not forget they are looking for maybe 5 to 6 kids per year and they get well over 100 at their camps this doesn't include the kids that reached out from top programs. Only one way to get in the door if not a top program - go their camp spend the money and have a great camp and who knows, otherwise you can sit at home bring your kid to training and play in those high level events and let all the kids doing the work grab up those spots. Blast email or not it's information what you and your kid do with it is up to you.
My rule with my older daughter and now applied to younger daughter is "would you/can you play there and can you get admitted there?" then you can go or not go
Don't waste money on Princeton if daughter is less than 4.0 and not top 1-5 in her class. Can she get 1500+ on SAT.
I know your point but you used a Ivy League :)
I agree 1,000% 11:08
Grades are number ONE. If you have the goods you can go anywhere you want and play club soccer at the school if not for the 1st team. Grades get you in, soccer helps to move your application to a smaller pile and for a lucky few it helps with $$$$ (non-IVY).
I hope this provides perspective
Word to the wise, be careful if you think you daughter is the top recruit for a coach at her position. My older daughter was invited to camps and attended a few where she wanted to go to school and to see the competition level. Continued to receive invites even after the players needed were committed for her recruiting year. Based on our experience it looks like a coach will court several players at a position and have a depth chart, all will be recruited like they are #1 on the list until #1 commits to the school or commits elsewhere. It may be good to know where your player stands on the list so you also can have a depth chart. In an ironic twist it looked like she was #1 for the team where she committed as well as another team and was #2 for another. I will also say (my opinion) that being a 12-18 on an ECNL team may be better than 1-11 on any other league (DA not withstanding)
3:40 I'll bite why? But first congrats to your kid.
ECNL events are must win for the team to place in Champions league, no? I don't see 12-18 playing much in those games -what is the message sent by the coach -he doesn't trust them in important games, no? If they play 50% of the game and the starter plays 50% that's another story. I see Starters playing a minimum of 60 minutes in their league games am I wrong? Of course it's different from team to team. Now the others you speak of -what if the team plays in the national league at Disney and Vegas and qualifies for nationals are you saying that these players won't have an audience and since they start in important games some how girls only playing 20 minutes with something on the line will have an advantage sorry i can't see that happening and either can you if we are being real.
Now if they played head to head and the girls out shined them maybe. But all I read on these boards in the past when ECNL teams lost to non-ecnl teams it was because the stars didn't play in those games.
I wish all girls luck.
Thanks Rush Dad, hope it all works out for you.
@11:34 - does your kid play ECNL? A lot of the teams do play many of the rest of the roster in league games from my experience. So when the coaches watch as they come to league games, too, they get to see them in action.
Cats win in PK's 7-6 after 3-3 game. Rematch of njysa game for final tomorrow in us club. Arsenal versus Wildcats.
Blog predictions both wrong again.
Both Arsenal and Wildcats win and move on to tomorrows final!
Survive and advance like Jimmy V said!
Congrats to both winners!
PDA PDA PDA PDA
Who did Wildcats play? 7-6, that must have been a stressful deal for the kids and parents. Always seems unfair to see pks determine things. A terrible way to have to determine a winner. Hats off to the winner.
wildcats vs pda ajax was 3-3 regulation and 2 overtimes after Ajax tied it late in regulation. PKS were 6-5 wildcats.
They hit 6 of 7 PKS.
SJEB vs Arsenal was also PK's in the other semifinal.
What was Arsenal/SJEB score going into shootout?
Whoever handled the stress better won today. That was it. 100% mental. In both games. That is something you cannot train for. keepers and girls taking shots. I agree maybe two 10 minutes?
it was 3:1
Its official, Sky Blue FC is partnering with NYSC to establish a girls DA. I always knew they had a good chance of getting a DA, since they are not an ECNL club. Good for them, good luck to all...
WOW so NY now has 4 GDA clubs - interseting to see what happens on the Island - do the Brooklyn/Queens kids join either one? What happends to East Meadow and Albertson ECNL teams - who gets the goods GDA or ECNL on the Island.
who gets the Manhattan kids NYCFC or Sky Blue so the World Class ECNL team will also take a hit on this one with another GDA in town
Sky Blue - NYSC
NYCFC - World Class
Fury
Long Island SC
NJ & PA still with only 2 each.
Now 4 DAs? And this is for development of the national team? 3/4 of these DAs will suck. There will be 10 good DAs in the country only PDA here.
Wildcats win 2-1 over Arsenal FC. hard fought State Cup Final Game with game winner in last 7 minutes on a great shot. 3rd straight year Wildcats have won a State Championship.
Now it'son to National Cup in Indianapolis in July.
Wow and it was just a month ago we had the below poster writing the Wildcats obituary on this blog. Just got to love sticking it the haters faces.
That never get's old.
Looks like the kitty kats are done. Guess the fresh blood just won't cut it. They'll never be the same. RIP kittens.
March 26, 2017 at 7:32 PM
Wow dude, did you cut and paste that one and send the the Wildcats team, did that motivate them??
Good job cats, enjoy tornado alley!!
Yes, they have used the haters as fuel for the past 3 years and 3 straight state titles. Nothing sweeter than answering critics on game day.
I heard there were some girls rugby college coaches closely watching the games this weekend. Think they were scouting. Bet some offers will go out.
Wa wa waaa they played too rough. Better buckle up for college soccer.
True that. After division 1 college games I have seen player after player leave the locker room with ice bags strapped to ankles knees or shoulders.
Saw the same watching my sister's kids collehe games. They come limping out of locker room to waiting family members after games. You can also add black and blue bruises on legs and strawberries on hips and butt from sliding especially on turf fields.
This is a pointless thread, yes soccer can be rough, especially for boys.
NYSC - fake news
NYSC & Sky Blue not fake news. New partner.
http://sport.thenet24h.com/387925/sky-blue-nysc-named-inaugural-member-us-soccer-girls-development-academy.html
I did not see the game but I've seen enough of the pussycats to know their style or lack of it. Hacking, chopping, booting, dumping, no possession, no tact, no skillset, lob and dump. it leads to that hacking style of play. The parents evidence by their high class here have always been as low level as it gets. they are too low class to even know it.
Nice try Mom but your players were at our tryouts last week. Wildcats early tryouts drew players from many of the Academy Teams on this blog. No one is buying your baloney any more. At U16 next year, NPL parents want their players to play in Nationals//Jeff Cup/PDA/Disney/CASL and Wildcats are consistently at all of the above.
Yes need to play with a team that can qualify for those events and play in one of top 2 flights. That will get you in front of the college coaches multiple times at all important U16 year. Except for players who can play a major role regularly on DA or ECNL Teams this is best option to get seen.
Yes, and results at U14 and U15 are what creates the track record to get your NPL team into those showcase events at U16 when it counts. Unlike ECNL or DA where every team gets invited to their main events not every NPL Team get's in to the major showcases. That is why those who claim results are irrelevant to NPL Teams are missing the boat(and their players and their teams are missing those events and the wide exposure to college coaches the major showcases provide). If you doubt this just go watch games at PDA event in a few weeks and see if you don't walk away wishing your daughter and her NPL team would have had the chance to play there in the top Non-ECNL Flight(2nd flight).
I gather pussycats are good enough to beat pda and win against what seems to be a great team yesterday. pda went into penalty kicks. Who knows how many were shanked or kicked at goalie. In the end cats go to nationals again. And looking back they cannot lose lately.
Winning another State Title at U15 yesterday and already locked in to another trip to Nationals(3rd straight year they will have done both) all but guarantees Wildcats Averbuch will be accepted and flighted in upper 2 flights of any showcase event they are eligible to enter next year at U16. Results moving forward are really not that important for Wildcats. They have already done enough resume work to put their team in the best possible position for U16 and getting their players opportunities to find the best fit for college. Which is what really counts in the end.
agreed with 12:43. David verse Goliath this past weekend. David won. again. I understand Ajax parents not very happy with coaching or program to again lost to this small club.
It's funny how many NJ people are on this blog,do you ever hear this much commotion about NY, PA, MD state cups NO!. Great accomplishment and accolade for a player to have but how much weight does that have in college recruiting?
With NYSC partnering with Sky Blue DA will SKY Blue DA and Pre-Academy teams draw the most talented girls among the NY area? I assume the bottom of the 20+ girls recruited to DA will overshadow any player chasing those state cups. LOL
But not nearly enough roster spots for every girl who wants to play in college to make DA or ECNL Teams. And many who do will languish on bubble playing rarely and often not even being rostered.
Seriously folks, any argument now that Wildcats Averbuch are #1 team in NJ? Can there even be a debate on this? Say what you want about the coach there, all he does is win year in & year out. BYC had zero effect on this team, in fact I think they are stronger now. The girls will run through a concrete wall for that guy, not many, if any, teams have that type of commitment. Hats off to him.
No #1 NPL Team. Storm still has to be considered #1 overall.
I have to agree with 1:24. While the top players on DA and ECNL Teams will certainly draw the most attention and offers, realistically how many players in a given year and graduating class in even the largest states in the region like PA, NY and NJ have both the academics and elite soccer level to be recruited to the few schools who are elite in both areas like Notre Dame, Stanford, Univ of Virginia, Duke, etc. maybe 3 or 4 tops in each class per state? There are many more of us who have daughter's playing NPL who are at that level or close academically but are not at that elite level as soccer players and we hope for them to go to a comparable academic school with a lower level of soccer where they can get a top flight degree and still continue to play the game they love competitively in college. Some examples are Colgate, Villanova, Bucknell, Lehigh, Amherst, Univ of Mass., and Lafayette to name just a few. There are also a high number of great academic schools that play ad D111 level in soccer such as John Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, Swarthmore, Clark, Haverford, Fordham, Smith, Middlelbury, and many others just in Region 1 alone. Last time I checked this was the U16 girls soccer blog, not the elite players only blog. We all want the best for our girls.
1;43 Storm is ECNL and doesn't count they have their league and a title for only teams in that closed league this is for everyone else.
PS. Storm could have applied they didn't by choice they couldn't apply to NCS - not my number #1 but obviously yours. I thought results don't matter to ECNL teams it's all about college placement. You got that but Wildcats are NJ's number 1 team they applied to the tournament and backed their title with another.
ECNL and GDA are about player placement and since we can't talk about the kids - you are not relevant for this board -so scram since results don't matter
Wildcats Averbuch are better than PDA Storm, the BYC impacted Storm much more than it did Wildcats. I give Coach credit, he replaced top 2001 D1 talent with much less skilled players but they are developing quickly into top notch players. The results & commitment clearly showed this weekend. We will enjoy trip to Nationals while many rest of you continue playing & throwing away money at those tournaments in Ft Dix or Tuckahoe.
The reality is results do matter for NPL Teams. Without a strong resume they won't get their NPL Teams into the higher flights of the big, well attended showcases and National events where their team and players can be seen. The difference in ECNL is that in most of the ECNL events other than ECNL Nationals all the ECNL Teams get invited to the 3 big events per year.
Not sure how DA will work but assume it will be similar format.
I agree Storm can get their players exposure without focusing on results. For the NPL Teams they must build their track record or they will be left out of the events that provide the necessary exposure. That is just the reality for the NPL Teams and they have to work within that system to qualify.
2:10 is not a Wildcats parent but a Troll/Poser/Hater looking to stir up trouble. Wildcats know we are not the equal of PDA Storm Team. They play at a different level and we wish them the best of luck. PDA and NJ Wildcats have an alignment now moving forward and we wish them and their teams only the best in the future. We hope some of our players can develop and make their DA team in the future.
Classy post. Let the game on the field, the players and your results speak for itself. We can all take a lesson from that. It's really all about the girls not the parents. Please leave all your hate, personal attacks, venom and jealousy off the blog.
Without the hate, personal attacks, venom and jealousy, there would not be a blog : )
That is only true for the sick jealous and bitter among us.
Welcome to Trump's America!
Don't blame Trump for your liberal hate and non-tolerance for any other opinion from yours! Accept your wrongdoing, stop blaming others and good luck to your daughter if you're teaching her how to cry and stomp her feet wearing a vagina costume.
Pretty sure you don't have the balls to show your post to your wife, if you did, the garage would be your new bedroom.
How about if I'm a soccer mom? Can only men have a backbone? Many women find the whining incessant and bitchy!
You’re not a Mom, women are not allowed on this forum, scram.
OH I think a lot of it is from nasty Mom's. Their Little Suzi get's beat on the field and they respond by personally attacking the other team the following day, their parents, players, coach, style of play, color of uniforms,etc. It's predictable and childish, and yes it's whining.
Are you saying real men don't act that way. Whining and sniping while hiding and slinking behind an anonymous keyboard. Isn't that sexist. Maybe these are men and they are just getting in touch with their feminine side.
Are you saying if they are men they fight like girls?
Screw you, you hurt my feelings
I will fight back by my passive-aggressive comments
stay tuned biotches!!!
Hahahaha. Good stuff all. like the lively banter.
btw - I am a soccer mom and not a fan of snowflake parents or kids.
Congrats to Arsenal for knocking off the #1 team in the universe. Did the Rush team get screwed by the SJEB merger, got a coach who can't keep them playing at the top level where they've been for so many years? Now they can't get past state semis? It's weird how they play, a few who dribble too much, a few who just boot the ball, no cohesive play. That comes from coaching, or lack of.
Arsenal U18 VS West Ham U18
This Saturday!! Great game!
@1:22 Everyone knows who you are. Just embarrass yourself and your daughter more. The Arsenal parents now know as well...... Sorry Arsenal parents, he is your problem now. Best of luck.
All I am saying is why do we pay for professional coaching if they just line up the same way and play with the same gameplan and tactics every game regardless of the opponent and how the teams matchup. Not claiming to be a coach but I have watched college and pro soccer regularly for years and I see teams often change their formation and tactics to match their opponent. Otherwise if every team and coach all lined up and played the same way as each other every game wouldn't the most talented team just about always win? And we know that is not the case!!!
Why is this guy on a U15 blog? What a creeper. Probably gives out candy on the sidelines too. There is a blog for U18 you know. Oh, that's right. No one on it. Pretty telling why.
1:39 - where can i find the info re this game?
Not to make this a U18 forum, but looked at the GSP for the U18 teams in PA as the above poster noted re upcoming games. How do these work?
3 of the top 4 (eastern and western pa) played approx 22 games or less and are in the top 10 of the "universe" and another has played over 40 games. Over 40 games and counting. That seems like a lot of games in the same time frame. Is there a Youth Soccer maximum amount of games one team can play within a year?
Continuing from above, Is this what ECNL prevents? What about GDA? They won't have as many games, either, right?
http://www.arsenal.com/fixtures/academy
A typical HS team will play more games in 3 months than a GDA team in 10.
Let's rename it as soccer w/o soccer.
10:02 Yes HS plays a lot of games it's more touches for those that did not make a DA team correct. Isn't that what many coaches preached since U8 the more touches the better for a player.
10:25am. Quality touches over quantity i'm afraid. HS is too much long ball, therefore limiting touches by all players and developing bad habits that become hard to break come recruiting season.
11:15 My kid's experience is different. She is the star and gets tons of touches. She gets to work on her first touch receiving bad balls to feet and not to feet. She gets to work on her dribbling and making the perfect pass so her team can handle it and she is only a freshman so all the upper classmen know who she is.
Are the games bad - yup but they compete vs each other.
So she get's quantity for sure and gets to work on her quality. It's easy whn you get a great pass - but it's much harder to control a bad pass and that can only help.
PS. she play vs girls 2 to 3 years older than her also a plus and of course seeing her stats recorded is another thing she loves.
But maybe you have a bad experience i just like to look at the positives
11:30, I have seen your daughter play, can I recommend Lacrosse?
OUCH!!!
Thanks 11:30 I will pass that along to her assuming she hasn't read today's posts.
PS. thanks for some of your other posts always bring a smile. Some people take this a bit to serious.
you to 12:57
I think you both meant to write "too"
1:04 If I stayed in school instead of playing cards I would have typed it the correct way. Honey this is just another example you need to rock those grades.
So let me get this straight playing HS Lax, basketball, softball etc. Does the same thing goes for soccer if they play HS they get worst get real people. You those sports demanding no HS.
Touches are touches in any sport and 11:30 post is on point, if your kid is an incoming freshman/sophomore this year playing against older girls and your kid shines it helps with confidence, maturity, and leadership. Things not taught at the club, DA levels. It also seems downtime playing HS where all girls are playing as a team for there town vs club bickering.
And if you play HS and the coach is former collegiate player why would you complain about HS soccer type of play and training.
The only reason why many downgrade HS is because of scouts not coming to games. ECNL/DA never existed and the only avenue for scouts to see a player is HS no one would bashing HS soccer.
High has been bashed for years. Just because your coaching may be good, what about the opponent? What about the facilities that are mostly awful?
What about the terrible refereeing and the numerous assaults that occur (and I don't mean a hard body block; I mean an all out launch into another kid from the side landing head first on the hard, mostly dirt ground...no card...no warning, nothing and kid still has concussion symptoms).
What about the refs that stand in one spot because they can't run and just make calls and just let the games run wild?
What about the coaches that aren't licensed? I doubt many are as it's not a requirement to coach high school in most states and some are not even up to date as far as rules.
What about the back to back to back to back games and trainings without any breaks? What about playing 20+ games in 2 months?
So, yeah, there is this.
4 pm Yada Yada Yada!
What about making friends with elders classmen?
What about being recognized in local and town papers?
What about going to pep rally's and being recognized by the school?
I can keep going just like you can on but ultimately I assume we are both on the same path for our daughters to play college I'm just giving her the down time to enjoy life vs driving 2 hours a day in a car.
Also doesn't college squeeze training and games into 3 months also. So get used to it.
7:15 - as far as college squeezing in games, they aren't back to back to back, better refs, and spring ball begins in the spring so training as well. Sorry, I have older gals that played. I guess that is why I have a different perspective as does my daughter.
And, I am not discounting the positives of hs, too. And, some people live for that scrapbook stuff. It's what ever the kids want at the end of the road.
I think it is a badge of honor for some parents to say "My daughter plays at such a high level she can't play school ball" and that's fine. it's another form of scrapbook material. And until the GDA it was the parent making the call because every program allowed HS play and most leagues work around the HS season. Granted it is not the highest level and there are some pretty bad refs, coaches and facilities. But there are also some pretty good teams. And one of the things I have seen is the ECNL top level girls sometimes are not the favorite on the school team. One of the thoughts is the prima donna attitude of the parents and sometimes the player. The HS coach does not have to put up with the PITA parents. I have seen a few players who thought they were stars set the bench while their HS team went on to states, maybe they don't want to play because they are not asked to play?? I have also seen teams with 3-4 ECNL players have losing seasons, parents will say it's the coaches fault, other lesser players, or lack of commitment. My daughter likes the leadership role, playing with friends and having more than parents on the sideline supporting her.
The nightmare for scheduling starts this weekend with Saturday being a complete washout. Plus, with the amount of rain being forecast for the region, I can't imagine fields being playable on Sunday unless you're on turf, and thats even questionable. Going to be a mess......Ugh
750 hates the high level players...
What average npl like team do you play for?
@1:30 - or pay for. lol
1:30
I cannot hate high level players when my daughter is considered to be one. Now you don't know me or her and I could be blowing smoke. But what I consider high level is top team for club (Team others are always looking to join), top player in HS (meaningless All League awards). And committed to a college team. I just see the hollow bragging and like to call it out every once in a while. The people (anonymously) on this board have their opinions based on what they feel is the right way to get there. If you look across the commitment lists very few from the area commit to powerhouse teams, very few players in the area are on YNT pools let alone travelling rosters. Is my daughter better than yours, I don't really care, but I know she is better than she was last year and that's what counts. By the way, women's soccer is an equivalency sport No Full Rides to D1 programs and if your player falls out of favor, the soccer money dries up.
@ 1:30
Your one of those that speeds past like you may get to the finish line faster but you end up at the same stop light as everyone else.
Your also probably the same bloke making fun of playing at Tuckahoe.
Having been around awhile and watching every level of play there are only a handful of girls if that "local" that would deserve your level of arrogance. 99.9999999999% of girls playing are all middle of the pack so to speak. My daughter included.
Can't wait for HS ball to start at least those parents have a clue what level the play is at. Travel parents are delusional.
Whats going on at PDA South ? Two teams of 16 is the rumor. Both EDP or not?
how does matchfit even get away with this garbage? 27 kids on a roster? collecting money and shuffling them around? My husband and I are so happy to be done with this stupidity. BUYER BEWARE!!
All clubs have big roster or split teams into 2,3,4 etc.
How are you going to feel when your starts playing college and rosters are 25-30? Feel free to research a division 1 school with only 18 rostered.
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