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Wednesday, July 20, 2016

U17G - U16 Girls Youth Soccer

This page is focused on Under 17 girls youth soccer, primarily in Region 1 but everyone is invited to share and post.

Teams face increased competition for the top players, (who are increasingly attending college showcases).

More teams consolidate and the best teams--academy soccer, club soccer and high school teams--battle to attract and retain the right player mix.

Stay tuned. This is bound to be good.

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Anonymous said...

Okay so re the WAGS info posted. t/y. Is that only 1 ECNL team attending? VA part of the host club?

Anonymous said...

1250. you keep trying to make it about MY kid. its about what is fair. Would you have a different view on my opinion if my child was a YNT player and is developing nicely?

Anonymous said...

Doesn't mean you will be successful in your AP class, though. You could get a failing grade or withdraw. So just because you did all the right things to get in the door, doesn't guarantee anything except that you will get all the materials (practice sessions). The success of the child depends on the child and how hard he or she wants to work. No guarantees. This is exactly the point.

Anonymous said...

Probably the YNT kid is doing the extra work; hence the playing time; the recognition and the continued development.

Anonymous said...

126. Maybe the kid at the bottom of the roster is doing the same. Point is, playing is part of what you pay for. to think otherwise is crazy to me. So if the YNT kid is your yardstick, that means she should never come off the field right?

Anonymous said...

There seems to be a disconnect here. If the child/family of the child at the bottom of the roster is not complaining, then why are you? If they were promised something and it isn't happening, then THEY should take the necessary steps to remedy it (i.e., having a meeting with the coach; finding out if there is anything to do to help the situation; or leave or don't and as someone said "suck it up.").

As previously asked, who would that crush the child or the parent, if they moved on? Is this kid on the only team in the state?

Are you saying this child at the bottom of the roster is as good or better than the YNT kid? If that is the case, then there is a real issue on this team as far as talent recognition, including by USSF. Otherwise, I would not begrudge the kid who has been recognized for her special talent, but be happy that she is part of my team and helping to raise the level of play on it. Pretty sure my kid would feel that way, too.

Good luck in this process.

Anonymous said...

in youth soccer, withdrawal etc is also possible, BUT that should be by mutual acknowledgement that the coach made an error in assessment and the kid is overmatched. Failing for a player should be repeated failure to perform- WHEN GIVEN A FAIR CHANCE. You cannot fairly assess players in practice ONLY and you need to give players enough game time to show what they can do. if a kid is an AP class is struggling she goes back down , she is not just left there to rot and not taught.

Anonymous said...

2:38 No one is complaining - but you can't possibly be saying it's right? are you? They promissed development and if you read the webistes they all say play meaningful games, one might even call that false advertisement.

What makes the YNT player a YNT player? Playing all those minutes with the first team - I'm saying you don't know if the bottom of the roster player can do equal or better simple as that and either can you, because if they had reps with first team playing 50 minutes who are you to say they won't improve and the coached wouldn't know that either we are talking teenagers?

Anonymous said...

Yes, and they are called scrimmages or friendlies. Surely your clubs has those as well, right? Wouldn't they be good assessors, too? And, like AP after that assessment, if this kid is struggling with that particular team, then she should go to another team within or outside the club.

Anonymous said...

Where do you play that you have games already? Or is some of this speculative for the upcoming season? Exhausting for sure.

Anonymous said...

238 a fair well run team benefits ALL. it creates a positive environment. When the best players are quite willing to cede PT to others because they understand that everyone is working towards individual AND team goals that is the ideal. They realize that kid number 13 is working just as had as kid number 2 and they all deserve a chance to be recognized on game day with PT. So yes, it does impact my child. Kid #14 s effort can be an inspiration to kid #3 who may have more natural talent. I dont begrudge ANY of the kids PT, it sounds like you do.

You keep missing the point tho. In reality the difference between player 5 and 15 on many of these teams is negligible so the 30m minimum in a 80 m game is by no means compromising the result most of the time. The promise made should be implicit, not explicit.

there is no process, its just a discussion and so far a respectful one. My kid is just fine. ,I feel for families who dont get a fair shake on game day. its jut wrong.

Anonymous said...

3:09 - you realize that a good amount of YNT kids are seen outside of their club environment, too. USSF goes to all the various events (ODP, Regional games, etc.). And, I don't think they do a one and done assessment. They go to several.

I am not saying kids shouldn't play, but if you are told ahead of time and buy into it, then that's what you get. If you were told otherwise, then you can get out of the bill of goods sold to you.

Anonymous said...

3:20 - I don't begrudge any kid PT at all. I think it's silly to be on a team and not play, but some are okay with it.
It's not my job to interfere, if they are okay with it. I don't like those who say yes to something just to get on a team and then become disruptive because it is actually working out that way. That harms the entire team.

Anonymous said...

What about the kid who asked to be placed on a team that she and her parents were told would be great for her development as far as training, but very limited playing time in games? There was a full disclosure made. Now, game time comes around and the parents are making comments on the sidelines about lack of playing time and all of that. Is this fair for the rest of the team to be associated with this type of behavior? Is this fair for all the kids including that child because mommy and daddy are acting out? Surely the better option would have been for the child to be on a different team for playing time and the parents given muzzles.

Anonymous said...

I don't have an issue with anyone and their PT.

I just hate when kids get labled so young - My point is if take players 12 - to 18 based on the coaches evaluation and give them 50 minutes a game and allow them to make mistakes becasue that's how you get better right? You would see growth and development and some of them might even replace 1-11 the coach initially thought. But taht wouldn't be fair and i am cool with that. All I am saying is give 30 minutes 15 a half and allow them to grow. Instead we label these kids and it hurts me as a parent to watch - I almost feel guilty that some of them don't get a fair shot and they have skill (based on my soccer knowledge - i am a euro who grew up with the game).

The problem is rosters over 18 and i get it the club makes money for the same work. heck if the parents pay why not. I get it. But there is no way that creates a positive team environment you can say what ever you want. We are talking teens not college kids or Pros that get paid to sit.

Anonymous said...

3:50 - or you are on the US WNT and you don't get paid to play or sit. Sorry, had to throw that one in there. Carry on.

Anonymous said...

Scrimmages are not meaningful games. 30 m is not a lot to ask for. parents who accept that deal should ask for a discount in cost. They pay the same after all. Mom and Dad acting out is quite often because the so called arrangements you speak of are not clear. It is more evidence as to why a deal like that is in NO ONES best interest. Coaches and Clubs need to be held accountable for providing the service we pay for AND for producing results. That means making player 14 better as well.

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