Sunday, May 29, 2016

U16G - U16 Girls Youth Soccer

This page is focused on Under 16 girls youth soccer in Region 1.

Teams face increased competition for the top players, (who are increasingly attending college showcases).

More teams consolidate and the best teams--academy soccer, club soccer and high school teams--battle to attract and retain the right player mix.

Stay tuned. This is bound to be good.

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Anonymous said...

Re the commits listed, I would not rely, solely, on TDS as far as reporting commits. There are other websites that add to those counts. You have to do an overlay of information. Can't explain why, but it is what it is.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:01 - hahahaha. Not my kid's team. She's a keeper.

She saved/stopped probably well over 100 shots this year. Her team plays very aggressively (only drops 3 when she is in most times) regardless of the score. And, not all kids can play defense (including the keeper in the defense)in an aggressive system. Takes time to develop chemistry/trust and an understanding re organization/direction.

But, when you play aggressively, apply a lot of high pressure, and some kids don't drop, you will get shots, breakaways, all of it. So, she has had her share of circus saves. lol

If I can also lend an observation to the lack of scoring, not only are the keepers more skilled (less goals as most clubs are paying more attention to training for that position then ever before), but some kids get buck fever and just shoot without paying attention to where they are on the field. When you are in certain positions on the field, you shoot the ball differently (more pace, more curve, etc.).

Anonymous said...

FC copa U16 & U17 both finalists out in Colorado at the end of NPL playoffs. I'd say NJ soccer is alive & well for those age groups. Maybe a matchup is in order between O'Reilly & Celeste, and Gunners & Milan, for New Jersey bragging rights?

Anonymous said...

Seriously...
Colorado NPL "finals". B league. NEFC knows it as they are blowing through the competition and about move to the ECNL to play some decent competition.

Anonymous said...

....and some not so decent - lets be honest

Anonymous said...

Interesting how mainline schools have aligned with a certain club. Not only is the Elite Soccer world hoping to place girls in College, it looks like they are placing them (or getting them) from the preps. Mo Money.....

Anonymous said...

The northeast ECNL offers the most consistent competition in region 1. 2 teams out of 4 to Finals. Not huge GD. An on any given day... situation for the vast majority of games.

Anonymous said...

are parents paying for kids to be on outstanding teams or for their kids to get better individually? The metrics that parents use to measure success seem to revolve around how well the team does. Is that even relevant ?

Anonymous said...

12:38
Since you brought up the subject.
Northeast ECNL may offer the best competition in Region 1 but maybe not all the best teams.
You had a lowly NPL beat them in every game played against them. Quickstrike beat the 2nd place WC team, the 2nd place Alby team TWICE plus Penn Fusion. Add into that 2 wins over the first place Mid Altlantic champ Virginia FC. Pretty sure NEFC would have done the same.

Anonymous said...

1:01 PM
In order to be recruited you need to contact coaches, but some teams have what I call the vapor trail recruits. If the team does well or has a few Blue Chips then being aligned with that team does garner more attention.
My personal experience with my daughter. When we first came to an ECNL team we were under the impression that level of training would be up to the level of play. after two years and over $10K we found that was not the case. Training was lackluster most players/families are individuals and most teams buy players, which is to say that the teams are made up of individuals who play well, the training is focused on what 11 to put on the field that offers the best opportunity for the coach as well as the "booster" families. If your child is 1 of the booster 11 then you are happy. There are also relationships that keep kids on the field, not necessarily the best 11 or the best prepared (look at the ECNL standings for the 3 local PA teams across the age groups). Also in the cross league competitions (Jeff Cup/Bethesda etc) the ECNL teams will usually win more then they lose but usually not by much. The issue now is at U17 (Junior year) we make the decision to stay because of the traction we have. The Club will not be a GDA so read into that what you will, there are new coaches so maybe the training will improve. The investment is in maintaining contacts already made and staying where they know you are.

Anonymous said...

Did QS beat a full WC roster? No. Too many people look at results and extrapolate to who is better than who. Clearly you can only play whomever is there and QS are a good team Im sure, but they are just not better that the bulk of the NE ECNL teams. I dont care how many they have beaten. Put then in the league and they would be in the middle of the pack. Not at the top and not at the bottom.

Anonymous said...

kept hearing how Tophat would dominate the ECNL. Never happened. Playing good teams, week in week out is a lot different than playing a weak schedule and then getting all excited to play an ECNL team. NE league play is a grind and all the games are competitive

Anonymous said...

202

it sounds like you are in the wrong Club.

Anonymous said...

2:19 PM
Yep. My daughter likes her teammates, which was split due to the Age reclassification. The new team is a mix of in club and newcomers where you can begin to see new allegiances with the new coach bringing in "his" players. There were also offers made where players signed a commitment but have not been level placed. Basically the club is dual carding ECNL/NPL and will decide on Game day which team/bench the girls should report to. Maybe great for inter team rivalries but cannot say it helps the players in their most important recruiting year.

Anonymous said...

2:16
I don't think you can downplay the QS team accomplishments against our ECNL clubs this year. I saw them play at Jeff Cup and they played several very good games against Alby and Va. I don't think many other teams in Mid Atlantic or NE are capable of that type of play.

Anonymous said...

Lets be honest, PDA is where it is because it created a monopoly, and has Nike to promote its marketing. The best CA clubs left ECNL by Year 2 because the ECNL competition was so weak, and now are in the National league. Don't you think the CA clubs are laughing their butts off about the recent articles claiming that US soccer can't exist without PDA? Yes, many of PDAs ECNL teams are very good, no denying it, but so are teams from all around the country. If I recall correctly, last year PDA only had 1 team vying for an ECNL championship, but MFA had more, and that's just here in their own backyard.

I thought the mission of the GDA was to break down the ECNL monopolies and let free market competition reign. No more ID2, with only ECNL girls being invited. Until those barriers are dissolved, US soccer will never be great.

Anonymous said...

248 . Please im laughing too hard.

Anonymous said...

Like I said ECNL most consistent competition. never said anything differently. Don't need you to correct me. Will be even more consistent next year with NEFC. Who will be left for Quickstrike play? The 2000 ECNL will sit the junior committed kids in non ecnl events and roster play-ups like they did last year. Is Quickstrike 00 or 99 next year anyway? Most of the NEFC super kids are 2000. Wonder if their best player will play up? She's also a star of the region 1 ODP team.

Anonymous said...

The blue chip effect is a real advantage for players 2- about 6 on the roster. There is a penumbra around the blue chippers. They draw coaches to the games. There are many kids who have been offered spots on rosters to decent scholarships because they got ID'd when a coach came to their game to see the blue chipper and player #3 had a great game. I wonder of coaches tell blue chippers to put off committing so that more and higher level coaches are recorded at the games to keep parents thinking they are seeing value from their investment.

Anonymous said...

Super kids? Seriously? The hype is just not consistent with reality. The top kids will be playing for a WC this year. The next level are in the national pool.

Anonymous said...

Yes exactly...
What I said, at this age which YNT kids are not ECNL? Quickstrike have some? FC PA? Nope...

Anonymous said...

What's your definition of a "blue chipper"? Mine is a player that top 10 schools regularly come to see when they are 8th graders through 9th grade and are usually committed with greater than 80% athletic (unless we are talking Duke or UVA which rarely offer 100%) by the middle of 10th grade. Yes they almost always have been to a national camp, have extensive id2 and/or regional ODP accolades, and/or are dramatically better than the other kids in some way- speed, goal scoring, ballskills-vision together. These latter types often find their way into a national camp as a late bloomer in later age camps U18 and above.

Anonymous said...

@1:22 - hi. Would like to chime in re Quickstrike and PF game played at CASL; the first game of the season for the brand new PF team who didn't have some players that were on Composite so kids were out of position.

It also didn't help that the refs would not let them change their jerseys as they were in white and Quickstrike was in very light blue; in the sun. There is a reason the teams wear stark contrasting colors. When you look up to pass, you may not see the player but the jersey. But, **it happens so it goes.

But, then, PF played Syracuse Development (another NPL team who has beaten Quickstrike several times; incuding at CASL). Beat them Syracuse Development 2-0.

Quickstrike is very good. But, they have off days, too. It's any given Sunday sometimes.


Anonymous said...

@6:57 - i think some YNT players in Cali or Region III area may dual roster with USYS and ECNL which is very rare, but happens. May not continue with the age group changes and all the other USSF changes. But, we'll see.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:16 - did QS play FC Stars (ECNL) and/or PDA (ECNL); two of the 4 in the ECNL Nat'l Championships from this region? Just curious as I don't know.

Anonymous said...

@952
The dual roster players were originally USYSA (mostly) players told by colleges and the USSF to bring up their competition level and they became "discovery players" for ECNL. Younger ages there are quite a few non ECNL national players. The only region 1 player above u15 that I know was SM at FC Revs and u18 YNT. She's discovery player now for PF. But she was playing up and coached by her father who is fantastic.

Anonymous said...

714

you have to define top 10 :)

can we say in no particular order(Soccer ONLY)

UNC,Duke,UVA,UCLA,Stanford,FSU,Penn State....not sure who else really.

Anonymous said...

USC, Clemson, Florida would round out my top 10. I am not sure Duke has been consistent enough soccerwise over the last few years. Yes CC finalist but 8th in the ACC almost didn't make the tournament. Total body of work was questionable over the last couple of years. But academically wow. So in combination would for sure put it in my top 10 for a kid looking to play in college. Clemson continues to rise and the school is more than decent. The SEC is pumping money into its programs so I think Florida addition is fair. the 2015 number one player went to Tennessee. USC is a great school with a great coach and on the rise. Another consideration would be Notre Dame. Some of the big 10s might be making a move like Michigan and Wisconsin both outstanding schools. Some of the top 5 don't give full scholarships to many if any players. Some choose "lesser" programs who freely offer 100% to the blue chippers. Can make the difference in choices.

I am using top 10 somewhat euphemistically. Blue chippers will draw coaches from the top 5 schools in the top 6 conferences. When you see the schools you and I have mentioned on your coaches list for a tournament, you know there is at least one blue chipper on the team.

Anonymous said...

9:35
Not having seen the PF came vs Quickstrike so I can't really comment on the jersey issue but I would think it would be tough for both teams. Someone else commented on whether or not they played Stars or PDA but looking at their history it does not appear they did. From what iI can see is it looks like they had a great stretch of showcases were they pretty much used the showcase events as an opportunity to show they have some very good quality players and proved against some the better Eastern ECNL clubs. I did look at the commits from the team and saw Notre Dame and 3 to Uconn. Maybe not top 10 programs but nothing to ignore, clearly they have some outstanding players who could easily fit into ECNL programs. 1-2 wins maybe a fluke but 6-7 is a mark of a very good team that must be well coached. Good for them and it just supports how many good programs exist in the Northeast.

Anonymous said...

925

Agreed. Especially re Duke. I only put them on there because i think others would. Your additions are fair. I guess its pretty clear to em that when you really get down to it soccer wise, the elite is a very very small group. I have always thought this. Schools like U Conn used to be, but have fallen off. No disrespect to anyone, but I am only overly impressed when I see players getting early offers from schools on that list because they really do seem to have their pick of the cream of the crop.

Anonymous said...

935

People mock this, but its true. Many ECNL teams use these non ECNL events to get PT for kids who they dont use often in the ECNL regular season. WClass top players did not even travel for NEWSS. I got nothing against QS, but you just cannot use showcase results vs ECNL teams as evidence of quality.

Anonymous said...

11:05
Certainly some truth to what you say but also hard to ignore that many wins. ECNL should have enough depth to beat NPL teams. Need to be very careful as people used the same approach with the PDA win over Colorado at the recent Championships. Do we put an asterisk next to that win? This is not any different.

Eric Harris said...

11:05 I know its for sake of conversation but PDA beat Real Colorado at full strength out in San Diego on April 2 with a score of 1-0. Now to be devils advocate lets just say Real Colorado got better since the last meeting. Well lets look at the numbers or the course of the next few months until they met again in the finals Real Colorado went 6-0-2 and PDA went 17-0-3 until meeting Real Colorado. When Real Colorado played PDA the first time Real Colorado was already in there season and at the end of their season which in theory you would say that they were as good as they were going to get at that point in time of that first game. PDA was just starting their season really so they had room to get better and grow. PDA beat them at that point in time and when the second meeting took place in the Finals and not to take anything away from Real Colorado because they are a talented bunch of young ladies but no matter if they were missing kids the results would have been the same if they were there. Look at the numbers and against lets say TOP Talent......PDA has not given up ONE (1) goal to any of the so called top players in the country not one (1). So again the (*) would never apply or could lol lol lol.

As far as QUICKSTRIKE......I seen them at Jeff Cup play and they are the real deal I don't care what anyone says they are legit as well as NEFC they are really good. They could handle any team in the ECNL and do very well against any of the competition including PDA.

Eric Harris

Anonymous said...

no one said the couldn't. What was said was they are one of MANY good teams, but not the best. Not sure what the Real Colorado stuff has to do with it.

Anonymous said...

I quote

2:16
I don't think you can downplay the QS team accomplishments against our ECNL clubs this year. I saw them play at Jeff Cup and they played several very good games against Alby and Va. I don't think many other teams in Mid Atlantic or NE are capable of that type of play.

i disagree. I think there are many competitive teams on the east Coast. SO no, I dont put NEFC or QS in a special category and if they were in the ECNL the results would probably bear that out. As far as Mr Harris being able top predict results basis who is or is not playing, i leave that alone.

Anonymous said...

Original poster probably was referring to Non ECNL clubs

Eric Harris said...

Sorry but I didn't predict any scores.....If I did I am sorry. What I meant to say or show is a FACT.....lololol No prediction there just FACT

Eric Harris

Anonymous said...

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not to take anything away from Real Colorado because they are a talented bunch of young ladies but no matter if they were missing kids the results would have been the same if they were there. Look at the numbers and against lets say TOP Talent......PDA has not given up ONE (1) goal to any of the so called top players in the country not one (1).

F Catiana Lychywek, Solar Chelsea SC U16 - Lychywek might have scored the game of the weekend. She brought down a free kick with her chest and then scissor volleyed it home from 15 yards out for the equalizer in the final minutes of the game. It was a downright audacious attempt for that stage of the game, and she converted. A tremendous amount of skill and athletic ability had to go into that moment, but she showed those same qualities throughout the game.

??

I guess not a top player then.

Anonymous said...

Hey Ed
How's the 2000 PDA team looking? If all your 00s are playing on age I am going to be shuddering when my kid has to go up against your girls. Please tell me some are playing up...

Eric Harris said...

K, lol lol lol like I said "TOP" Talent and those aren't my words I think every kid is TOP talent but I know how you TopDrawer junkies read into those stats but when I talk about TOP Talent I speak of those young ladies in our national pool or teams as the girls that were missing during our final. Like I told you and our other brother I think Solar Chelsea is LEGIT and a great team but also at that dinner I told you that PDA was the best team in the COUNTRY and you guys begged to differ but I stuck to that and I guess I was right lol lol but certainly there are some very talented kids thoughout this country that aren't considered TOP Talent but in my honest opinion as a country whoever is picking that TOP TALENT is wearing in my opinion some rose color glasses.

Eric Harris

Anonymous said...

Hey Ed,

In regards to top talent. National pool is a beauty contest hosted locally and eventually true talent from the small pool rise to the top. What I mean to say is that until now, and I really do not think it will change with GDA, girls selected localy are selectd based on familiarity with the selectors. If you look at ODP over the years the local ODP coaches choose from within first and then round out the teams with club reccomendations, most ODP teams are built prior to tryouts and I believe similarly the 2017 GDA teams already have at least 10 names on each roster. I am not saying that most of the girls don't deserve the opportunity but I am saying that other girls who do not have the connections are just as talented. It also goes to the push into less affluent neighborhoods and selecting players to give them the opportunity. There is either a fovritism link or an agenda that helps build these teams. Add to that the eventual coaches style of play bias and you have a system that pretty much locks out 99% of the rest of the players. One other exception to getting in the pool is what I call the booster parents that have aligned with coaches to get their kids an edge. Then there is the tie in to parents of notariaty (wink) - ex-Athletes themselves that suggests a strong upside.

Anonymous said...

Had the displeasure of being at a game with Riverhound parents. What a classless act. Not surprising given their coach getting tossed from the game. Yes, the officiating was terrible but it went both ways.

Anonymous said...

834. What are you talking about? NT pool has zero to do with ODP. GDA is not NT either. Of course a coaches play style is going to influence every team selection. The whole favoritism, bias, booster parents etc is just a non issue to me. This goes on in every single walk of life where there is a selection and opinions. All I can say is that some kids have absolutely paid their dues and gone through a lot to get noticed and selected without any of the so called advantages you mention, and all of the kids deserve credit for making the best they can of a system that will always be imperfect.

Anonymous said...

11:13 AM

In your opinion how is the Girls/women's NT built? Where do they pull players from??

Anonymous said...

11:13 - I agree with you, but do think that ODP still helps for recognition. At recent ODP matches, US Soccer was at every game.

Anonymous said...

They have scouting network. The bottom of the pyramid is/was the National Training centers. These run till U15. Any coach can recommend his players and there really is very little check or balance at this stage to the initial recommendation. From there kids start to build their resume. There are other ways including club games, id2, ODP etc. Scouts attend many of these events. do they miss players, sure. Its a big country. Very little of the selection is done on the say so of ONE coach. Is it fair ? define fair. Is it perfect? no- what is? We have this fantasy that NT selection should be perfect in the eyes of every onlooker. No way it ever will be. Practical considerations make it so, but every kid selected is deserving

Anonymous said...

Here is the path path based on 2012 standards:
file:///C:/Users/rweiler/Downloads/US_W-YNT_Program2012.pdf

Anonymous said...

A lot has changed and more will change given DA. Look at the recent team selected for U15 CONCACAF tournament. One kid from NJ is PDA. Coach Carr explains it very well

“I want to congratulate the whole pool of players that we’ve worked with through this cycle over the last 18 months,” said Carr. “It was not easy to narrow down the roster to 18, and that’s a credit to the depth in this age group. Moving forward, I know that the future is very bright for all of these players who are just starting their journey in our National Team programs.”

That is the way I see it.

Anonymous said...

The future of soccer in the US is bright at all levels. This sport has taken off. It is very impressive to see these gals and their level of talent and commitment already. It will be interesting to see how the college game closes in gaps in the various conferences too. All good things for sure.

Just wanted to throw this website out there: Informedathlete.com Offers some info re various levels of this crazy recruiting process and what to expect even after they are in college on scholarship.

If others have similar suggestions and could share, that would be great.

Anonymous said...

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/roster-announced-for-ecnlid2-national-training-camp/

Anonymous said...

10:57 AM

So out of 100 players named Grand Total of 8 from the "Region" and really only 1 from PA. congrats to the FC Continental player but it looks like we need to come a long way to get some recognition.

Albertson Fury 2
East Meadow Soccer Club 2
FC Continental 1
MatchFit 1
PDA 2

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