Thursday, February 4, 2016

U16G - U16 Girls Youth Soccer

This page is focused on Under 16 girls youth soccer in Region 1.

Teams face increased competition for the top players, (who are increasingly attending college showcases).

More teams consolidate and the best teams--academy soccer, club soccer and high school teams--battle to attract and retain the right player mix.

Stay tuned. This is bound to be good.

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Anonymous said...

1155 I am pretty sure they will move. Once you have experienced the NT thing, you want more and Im sure the thought process will be if I play in front of the decision makers more often, I increase my chances.

Anonymous said...

12:11 PM
I belive that the DA will work the way ODP pools work now. THe DA team will be the local pool with teams playing the other DA teams in the region with national camps/tournaments, just being on a DA team does not gaurentee a NT camp invite. Agreed, if you have ever been to an NT camp you will want to continue to play at that level. There has already been movement within ECNL teams where the powers that be in US soccer have "transferred" players from one ECNL team to another so that they would be in the best environment. The other factor will be cost. If the DA training, uniforms and games are no cost except for travel it would be an easy decision.

Anonymous said...

1232

clearly being in the DA does not mean NT. But it certainly means the greatest opportunity to showcase your talent to NT directly.

you really believe that USSF have "suggested" players move? I call BS on that. Urban myth perpetrated by those with an agenda.

I don't see cost as a factor really. People pay ridiculous $$ now for ECNL. They wont stop.

Anonymous said...

2:14 PM
Check PDA/Matchfit Rosters from this season against NT pool and local ECNL club's rosters from last year. Not Myth, Fact.

Anonymous said...

214 you think its a fact because kids moved clubs? I don't consider that evidence at all. BTW, NT pool? What is that? Please point me to a location where I can see it.

Anonymous said...

7:36 AM

Link to NT Pool
http://www.ussoccer.com/us-under16-girls-national-team/roster#tab-1

Oh, and fact that it was based on the US Soccer "suggestion"

Anonymous said...

Sorry, first post was actual team call-ups here is the link to U17 pool
http://www.ussoccer.com/us-under15-girls-national-team/2013-player-pool

Not really updated properly but makes the point.
US soccer is sometimes cagy in the way they post updates to their site.

Anonymous said...

820/825 you have shown me the U16 roster AND the 2013 U15 one. Neither of which is relevant. It does not make the point at all. The only point it makes to me is that there is no official pool. I also don't see any PDA or MFit players on the current u16 roster.

Anonymous said...

11:38 AM

Trying to figure out your argument. ECNL is the current highest level of play for girls, EPA is not the hotbed of getting girls to NT rosters (mostly CA, VA.TX. CO). US Soccer wants a girls DA to "Discover and develop" top talent fot the NT program. If we look in comparison the success of the current girls development to Boys development we can see that ECNL (Mallory Pugh as an example) is working fine as it is. Someone got upset and decided to start their own thing (again) and now we have the proposed "Next Top Tier" of girls soccer, a selfish self absorbed DA model that currently does not work on the boys side. (incedentially the Girls DA will be run by the same diplomats).

I honestly think that FIFA has approached the US womens team directors and asked them to find a way to dilute the pool so that other FIFA countries have an opportunity to compete and in turn they will help bolster the US mens program.

As I said trying to find actual updated rosters is difficult, her is the latest US soccer link based on the 2015 ODP.
http://www.region1.com/Content/directors/upimg/dir8697/godp%20rosters/u15%20boca%20roster-2015.pdf

Anonymous said...

http://www.region1.com/Content/directors/upimg/dir8697/godp%20rosters/u15%20camp%20pool%202015%20v3.pdf

This is the full 2000 Region 1 pool roster. Some of these kids played their age group or playing/played with older ages groups at Boca and international tourneys. Not sure how we connect the dots.

Anonymous said...

again, that is ODP. Irrelevant. There is no pool at U16 that is public.You cant. Let me tell you what the poll is. It invented by parents whose kids are not in the current camp. Im sure there is a list of players, but the USSF certainly do not tell you and the def do not publish @ U16. They would be foolish to do so.

if your kid is in the current NT camp, congrats. If she has been and is not in the current one, still congrats and im sure she can be invited down the line. if she has never been, its not a great process, but I hope she gets a shot at being seen and evaluated fairly.

Anonymous said...

Got it. Much like life, right place, right time and plenty of luck; just keep working hard. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

So with tryouts coming up what is the concensus, is your player attending current club only tryouts or shopping around at different clubs. some seem to think that the age change may open spots at higher level clubs. As for my player we are putting all eggs in one baket.

Anonymous said...

I definitely think the birth year opens up opportunity for current u16 00s but the change will close options for the 99 who have to make already established team of kids older and more experienced than they at 99/98. If my child was one of the best players in a high level travel type situation I would definitely consider having her throw her hat in the 00 ECNL ring. Last chance for a good deal.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone worried that the top 00s from their team will defect for one last chance at ECNL recruiting opportunities? If that happens will your team survive?

Anonymous said...

8:31

In the EPA area there are few teams below ECNL/EDP/NPL that compete at the U16/U17 level. Natural attrition may hurt more then girls looking to upgrade. With the ECNL tryout dates there may be some transfers among clubs. For a girl to break in to a U17 ECNL team she will need to be a strong player. Most of the ECNL clubs have 3-4 teams to pull from (2 ECNL and 1 NPL). Some ECNL clubs were adding to their NPL rosters right after PAGs short season. THe hopes of the girls is that they are in the club and hope to be leveled at ECNL based on the age change. Coaches are also fickle and know who is on the radar and are already talking to players who are interested in ECNL spots. Showing up without prior interest will be a long shot.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/04/13/17/19/160413-u16gnt-heads-to-italy-for-tournament-of-gradisca

Anonymous said...

12:10 there are plenty of strong players in non ecnl clubs that could potentially make the teams even without the age shift. I don't believe any ecnl coach would not take on a player that was stronger than any players on their npl team. If you think there is complete club loyalty I think you're mistaken.

That being said. Most strong non ecnl players aren't necessarily looking to get into the ecnl. If they had wanted to they would've done so already and probably choose not to do so for a variety of reasons.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Quickstrike in NY just committed another player from their U16. Defender heading to UConn along with forward to Notre Dame. Still plenty of top players from non- ecnl programs getting the same exposure. No ODP, no National camps, just high quality players.

Anonymous said...

Re:ODP roster / connecting the dots - the top players in that list were invited to Boca to train (about 1/2 of that list). all of those listed players are invited to train/play at an international location. Many locations changed this year due to security concerns abroad.

Anonymous said...

11:21 Agreed. Plenty of good players on that list. Region 1 does a great job.

Anonymous said...

any representative team that is pay for play is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Can any of the FC Copa parents out there Comment of the cost of tuition for the club?

Anonymous said...

If your child is like the 2018 Quickstrike players that have just committed they are aware of their options now. I do believe that there are some kids/families who expected to have several choices on the table at this time and for whom that has not become the reality. I am not saying that there are not ECNL players in the same boat please keep in mind. However, those non ECNL kids might be wondering if their chance of success would be enhanced if they switched now for a perceived last chance at the ring.

Having said that, I do not believe that ECNL teams will switch out the bottom 5-8 of the roster for an outside kid to come off the bench. I do however, think they would snatch up a player in a heartbeat that they see as "special" and would happily take any kid they see as a starter from the outside.

Anonymous said...

11:54 I don't think ECNL is the solution for the kids. More important is the coach or club being an advocate for the player. If your coach is not willing to work to get the college opportunities it is that much more difficult. So switching clubs will only help if the coach can assist. This is the issue with many smaller clubs and ill equipped coaches. Check his or track record of players playing in college. As a sophomore the door my be closing for the top college programs but is still wide open for the hundreds of others colleges and universities. Plenty of players do not commit until junior and senior years.

Anonymous said...

What does this mean ?

If your coach is not willing to work to get the college opportunities it is that much more difficult

with soccer being such a pay to play and therefore middle class sport, we seem to develop and indulge this attitude. Its up to the player and the parents to work hard to put themselves in a position to get eh best chance to get where they want to go. A coach should not market a poor player. By poor I mean a poor fit to the school in question. I don't know a single coach who will not look at a player who is a good fit. it is on the parents to be realistic an honest and put the game in perspective with regard to college plans.

I guess that is my first mistake. Most parents are not realistic.

Anonymous said...

Agree with your point about parents but having the right coach will certainly help a good player with aspirations. If you coach is involved in the process it helps, to think otherwise is very foolish. Communication between coach and schools is the main conduit for the younger players on the college radars.

Anonymous said...

1059am
Stay away from copa way to expensive, starts at 2200 then doubled at extras to many other options
S

Anonymous said...

5:38 I think that is a pretty common rate for premier non-ecnl clubs.

Anonymous said...

How about the disaster going on with Rush and SJE in south jersey? The building of a super club is falling apart as players are attending other clubs tryouts such as the new COPA south group. Nothing like walking your players through the front gates of your competition. Greed catch's up with all.

Anonymous said...

Prejudging something as a disaster before it even starts, that's funny. Yes, a lot of people are upset because they have to find a home for their kids, and it's tough on the U-16's because they will likely never see the benefit, but having strong clubs in the South is likely good for the up and coming kids. Does any one really believe that there is a strong club system in the South? At this age are the Barons or the Rush really very competitive clubs?

Anonymous said...

Isn't PDASouth the best club in south NJ? All their girls are verbally committed, most to Rutgers of course.

Anonymous said...

Need to thank those who posted previously re tips with respect to commitments and suggestions about what can be expected as far as money, housing, food, books, etc. Your assistance is great. Was not sure what to expect, but these have been very good tips. Keep up with the helpful posts.

Anonymous said...

8:28- I am with you. I am the one who asked the original question. It would be nice if people would share anonymously, of course, just so others had an idea of what is a reasonable expectation. I have heard things and it ranges from full ride to books. I would just like to know what would be considered a fair offer.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have an idea when PDA posts schedule for showcase for Non- Ecnl teams?

Anonymous said...

Its hard to answer your question. Example: Take a top tall and or uber fast CB(I think that's the position you said your child plays. Let's say she is on a champions league level ECNL team or alternatively on a team where she is clearly the reason that they hang in games, against top competition (ECNL or top two brackets of national level tournaments). Also premise that she has not been to national camp and doesn't participate in ODP. I think she could get 50-75% (say VaTech) in general to a top 25 school if they really need a CB and think she would play a lot and pair well with existing personnel. Same kid could demand 100% on a top level mid major (ex JMU)team or 90% (rarely do power 5s give 100% to non national or even international kids) on a lower ranked power 5 school say Syracuse or Maryland. A lesser CB playing top competition could easily get a 50% from a mid major in a lesser conference (lets say Seton hall for example) that is fully funded. Just talking athletic money by the way.

Anonymous said...

By the way I used real examples but changes the schools although I picked similar schools in similar (or the same) conferences.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. Very helpful. 8:59 am.

Anonymous said...

Do ECNL teams have tryout rules among each other? Friend's daughter wants to try out but is on another team. How does that work?

Anonymous said...

335pm
They can tryout for any team after may 1st. Although it is not always greener :)

Anonymous said...

Question, what is the proper amount of communication with the coach as a parent? As my daughter has gotten older I have pretty much been a consumer of the information sent out by the coach and team manager responding to requests for information directed at parents but letting my daughter respond to questions from the coach regarding availbality or if she will need to miss a practice due to a school or family event. But on the other hand I understand that there is a texting protocol where the coach is directly reaching out to players for information that I may want to be aware of. There is also the stigmatism that I want to avoid where I become "That" parent while at the same time feel that my teen daughter may not always have the presence of mind to respond accordingly.

Anonymous said...

What PA East teams would be an option for a '99 next year. Assuming this list could be a mix of current U16 or U17 teams depending on the direction they take going into next year.

Anonymous said...

706am

What level are you looking for. At '99 some clubs are combining the 99/98 birth years so there will be a high number of players. Most current clubs will be fielding teams at that age. The '99s are the most impacted by the birth year change.

Anonymous said...

A top level team-. hearing that some teams will "play up" while others will stay. I have to imagine that there will be moving parts based on what teams do.

Anonymous said...

Top Level Teams are subjective. If you are looking for good college exposure the ECNL teams are where to be. FC Bucks, Penn Fusion and Continental FC. PA Classics is a good team as well. Harleysville may or may not be an option for you. the best thing to do is research through EPYSA Cups to see what teams at that age made it deep into the cup run (NCS) Got Soccer offers some insight but the numbers can be skewed as not all teams play the same agressive schedule to get points (meaning some teams will enter lower level tournaments to build up their numbers) the better indicator on GS is the head to head against better teams).

Also based on what team your are with now could play a factor on how open a coach at a higher level team will be. at 17 a player should already have a reputation across the soccer landscape with interest coming to you. Has your player been asked to guest with any teams or attend training? showing up unannounced at a tryout may not put you on the radar when few spots are availbale. The team we are with has been entertaining "guests" at training since March 1.

Anonymous said...

Yes it's tough on the 99s
My daughter, sophomore now, will most likely be on a team with 50/50 juniors and seniors; seniors mostly committed to a school
It will be all on us (my daughter) to contact coaches to be seen at showcases. Not too many coaches will randomly watch a team with that many older girls except that the club name behooves it

Anonymous said...

8:34 AM

For what its worth, if your club merits looks from College coaches is your concern that with so many committed already the coach/manager will not plan to attend showcases? Another avenue is have her attend a few ID camps at the schools she is interested in this summer. If she performs well there it gives the College coach a reason to come watch her play next year.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 8:43
She has attended a couple by invite and we're sifting through others to decide where to spend the money :)

Anonymous said...

The northeast ECNL is putting together "composite" 00/99/98 teams for competition in 2016-2017. They will do 2 showcases. We don't know yet for sure, but likely there will be league play too. They will be most likely made up of largely 99 juniors. Possibly 00 juniors who are committed or are bubble u17 00 players and whom the coaches think the u17 00 team can do without and remain competitive. The teams will probably be about as competitive as the current ECNL99/00 u16 teams are now. They will be looking for solid 99s to bolster these teams. They will make up some of the 99/00 ECNL team or DA team for 2017-18 and the clubs will treat them right to keep competitive the following year or to field a strong oldest level DA team.

Another consideration would be the PA Strikers. They will keep their 99 national league spot and would be happy, I am sure, to garner a few more older players to compete at that level.

PA Classics' best 99s already went to Strikers. The 99s won't pick up much there because the DA that they will likely be awarded will be behind the 99s.

Anonymous said...

9:25 AM

I would challenge your statment regarding the combining of 3 age groups for an ECNL team. Looks like 99/98 will make up the top age for ECNL, I have not heard or seen from any ECNL club that they will include 00 birth years as part of that level. ECNL will also still mandate the 4 showcases (Florida, San Diego, PDA and Championships. DA will not be an issue but will be split birth years (reverting back to the change to single birth years estblished for 2016) for 2017/2018. Also, are you suggesting that PA Classics is getting the girls DA Badge???

Anonymous said...

9:25
"PA Classics' best 99s already went to Strikers. The 99s won't pick up much there because the DA that they will likely be awarded will be behind the 99s."

Really?

Anonymous said...

Question,

Do you think a coach would informa a player where they stand when seleted at tryouts? for example "we would like to offer you a starting spot on the team" of "we would like to offer you a spot on the team, we have a strong group of starters and feel you can compete for a spot".

Based on the age change and fluid nature of tryouts it still seems like the clubs/coaches hold all of the cards. If a player is looking at 2 teams it would be nice to know if one has them slotted higher.

Anonymous said...

No harm in asking...nothing to lose

Anonymous said...

I have heard rumors regarding at least 15 clubs being mentioned as DA Possible teams in this area alone. Pretty sure it will be about 3 in the tri- state at most. Sure gonna be alot of disappointed clubs. I would believe if any clubs had a real inside track we would hear more concrete rumors. I would venture a guess that it might include Tab Ramos' club, Only because of his involvement on the National level. It will be his reward for pushing forward the recent soccer directives. It will also support the notion that soccer at the highest level is still about who you know and nothing more. Will be interesting.

Anonymous said...

There has been an ECNL announcement about a second ECNL team at 99/98 called the ECNL "composite" team. there is talk of adding 00s. Again this team is in addition to the 99/98 U18/19 ECNL team and the U17 00 ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

Oh and yes I think Classics will get the DA because the USSF is well aware of their famous progeny Chrsitian Pulisic. And yes I think the PA Classic u17 team was badly affected by the three kids who are now strikers and the u16 team is very weak.

Anonymous said...

Any thoughts on Development Academies being offered to those clubs which have been committed and loyal to USYS such as PA Classics or FC Copa.

Anonymous said...

Yes my thoughts are why would usysa have any influence on the decisions of the USSF? The USSF runs its ore academy organization through us club soccer. Why would they show any preference to usysa clubs?

Anonymous said...

Application for DA starts 5/2, be patient....
Many clubs are forming "composite" 99/98 teams due to sheer numbers...
The shame in all of this is that the 99s are definitely the "losers" in this birth year change...

Anonymous said...

I don't think you understand. This ECNL composite team will participate in ECNL showcases and the northeast ECNL league as an additional team. Not just a hodgepodge thrown together. It will have ECNL coaches coaching it and will not be treated as an afterthought.

Anonymous said...

9:46 AM

Or it could be another ID2 team. Not sure clubs can support a '00, 99/98, and 00/99/98 team for an entire season.

Anonymous said...

ECNL teams certainly have the numbers for all three. But I don't know what you mean by id2 team?

Anonymous said...

@9:46.. Has this been officially announced by ECNL? Our DOC said 2 teams for 98/99 was a possibility, but we haven't heard officially from the club. If it is official, will there be 2 divisions at that age or all teams in the same division?

Anonymous said...

Offcially announced at PF

Anonymous said...

PDA south relegated to lower bracket for PDA showcase. Breakers and Athelica in first bracket. Guess the hierarchy is once again verified. Bit disrespectful.

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