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MF over gunners 2-1. gunners only have 8 good players with zero talent after first 8. Nothing on bench, and many will not even play due to state cup rules. MF will run and run and have a full bench that all will get real playing time.
Zero talent? Haha, funny.
State cup rules?
Kick and run is a funny statement that you hear all the time. I thought the PDA Gunners had a group of about 30 talented girls to choose from. Now you claim only 8. Wow thats a big difference. You are sounding somewhat hurt or something. Eitherway we are going to see if kick and run can out kick 8 talented and the rest of that team. I still pick the Gunners. You have 8 talented kids thats more than enough to win a game.
Gunners will win but 3:05 is kinda right, the less talented girls has trained with coach for years separately and he plays them regardless of talent and starts them over the better girls. About the all mighty dollar...again.
On the JAGS website is a listing of accepted teams. Looked through the U13 level and it is horrendous. Easy points if that is what you are looking for.
Well if that is true that is sad but I can't imagine that is true. I can only feel that, that is one's opinion which is fine this is a forum. You talk about the mighty dollar.......I was under the impression that youth sports are suppose to be free. There is not ONE "academy" whether its a true academy or not that is not about the mighty dollar so the question is not "What is your point", but rather Name ONE "academy" that is not about the "mighty dollar or is a totally FREE to play. Don't worry I will wait to hear this response. Although I pick the PDA Gunners to win, the game still has to be played and Matchfit is still very capable of winning this game.
Teams at this age are all very close in skill, despite what PDA parents think. Anyone can win on any given day. I do not recall gunners winning any tournaments this spring, but according to Got Soccer the following teams Ron or came in 2d in several tournies this spring; toms river (Jeff cup, manhattan kickoff); FC Copa (Msnhattan kickoff, PDA); rovers (their own tournament): stampede ( PDA).
The sad thing is that PDA will retreat to ECNL and not play any of these top teams anymore, and their B teams will also be playing in a "B" league only for B teams of ECNL clubs. So they will surround themselves with artificially created environments instead of evolving and playing other talented teams as they fight it out in the ranks of NPL and continue to improve. ( I find it interesting the comments by others about how "Gunnets have improved this spring"). I certainly hope so - what do you think all these other teams have been doing? LOL
I think you are correct and saying that all the teams are just as skilled. I totally agree with that. I will also say I don't think any teams run or hide from anyone. Its YOUTH SOCCER they don't need to hide and what for. This is not like boxing where you try to dodge a certain contender its youth soccer. You can not base a teams or players development on WINS and LOSSES thats just nonsense and futhermore "IN MY OPINION" STUPID. I don't think teams have "B" teams. I like to call them "second" teams. I think that a lot of parents look at these teams from the outside in and never really look at what their own club is doing or trying to create. Basically its the same thing but just on different levels. I am not sure if the PDA Gunners have improved or not but I can only imagine that all teams have and if not we wouldn't be here talking about them if I am correct. I find it odd when you have parents showing animosity toward Youth Soccer Teams. I guess its okay to be a monday morning QB and have all the answers to fix youth soccer. When you can say that you never charged a kid to train them or work with them you can then say problem solved. As long a money is involved Youth soccer will alway be in the state that its been in from what I see and thats parents going looney over teams that their child is not on or not considered in the "ELITE" which is also another bogus title lol.
11:36
I am truly sorry that your daughter didn't make the team you wanted her to.
I also suggest you find a bit more productive things to do with your day than to search Got Soccer to make a point. All so that you can justify the disappointment of not getting on the team you wanted.
second team? not based on winning and losing? Spoken like a true pda B team parent. Good luck.
Hey coach I play on the second team.
Practice squad for the 1st team. Not the same coach, ours is not quite as good, and the goalie stinks because the two best goalies are playing on the 1 st team, but really we are good.
No I think its spoken like someone with some common sense. If I am a "B" parent then great. I am proud of my kid and her abilities. I am very proud of what she is accomplishing. Michael Jordan was a practice player, Messi was a practice player, Henry was a practice player I could go on and on and you know what thats good company to be in. Matter of fact all the girls on this so called "B" team are very talented players and will someday achieve everything that they can dream of. Maybe unlike you being an underachiever or not as talented as these girls will every be you now deem them unworthy and all of a sudden "B" team labelled. What does it matter to you anyway. Maybe you should join and adult league somewhere and see live through your own accomplishments instead of whining about something that you have nothing to do with and that YOUTH SOCCER. I assume you probably never played at a level that even matters to understand that kids do and will develop regardless of A, B, C, D team etc. Regardless of the coach, regardless of their teammates. Players themselves do decide that they as an individual want more and want to be better and my friend there is nothing your whining can do about that.
These posts seem to be divided into groups of parents who believe the ECNL brain washing that ECNL is elite and therefore better, and NPL is for the commoners and not as good, which is rubbish. Any type of fabricated environment which is exclusionary is just that - exclusionary and nothing more.
And posters such as 1:39 can't make a coherent contribution to the discussion so they result to unpleasant innuendos. I could reciprocate and ask "how is unemployment treating you?" Or, "I hope your civil service job leaves you plenty of time to play solitaire since you obviously have no vocabulary and never read a decent book". But why? See how stupid it looks. Much better to keep your silence then prove yourself an idiot.
In the hysterical Spring Of the Academies, I for one am so proud of the way my daughters small town club team has resisted the flight to the 3 lettered jerseys. These girls truly love each other, and love to play soccer. They will play against any team out there and compete till that whistle blows. They have quietly put together an awesome spring and I believe that if placed anywhere else in the "random" brackets they would still be in the hunt today. They train hard and are well trained. But they are in the end just a great bunch of goofy 13 year old girls, who enjoy their teammates as much off the field as on it. And that is what is really all about isnt it. So my hat is off to this TR Everton group. Good luck at YMS and Delco. Lets see where the rest of this spring takes you...
6:11...
why do you think that your daughter and her teammates are any different than my daughter and her teammates? Just because my daughter made a "flight to the 3 lettered jersey"? suddenly that means that they don't truly love each other? they don't love to play soccer? they don't play against any team out there and don't compete till the whistle blows? My daughter trains hard, is well trained, and in the end is a goof 13 year old girl, who enjoys her teammates as much off the field as on it. You really think that the jersey makes a difference? There were reasons my daughter left her small town club. And those reasons don't make one bit of difference. Like most posters on this forum, you can't see the forest through the trees. all you care about is jabbing at someone else's jersey. I'm sure my daughter and your daughter would get along just fine, since they seem very much alike...but that would mean that you would have to get past my daughter's jersey. Sadly, most people don't seem capable of that.
Insecure people have to make excuses and put others down to feel confident. Confidence isn't walking into a room with your nose in the air, and thinking you are better than everyone else, it's walking into a room and not having to compare yourself to anyone in the first place.
6:11 s post was one of the nicer posts Ive read on here. There was not one put down of anyone elses daughter or team in it. If you chose to see put downs ,then it is you who are insecure. And if you dont think the whole academy thing this spring wasnt crazy, and didnt tear teams apart then you arent paying attention. Why cant a nice post be just that. Why are you looking for grumpkins among the trees in the forrest.
Why remove the MOMMA jokes, moderator don't you get it that its just in fun and the person that started it is just trying to make light of a sometimes a tense topic and just to bring laughter and a sense of fun. I have to put mine now.
Your mama so dumb she tried to climb mountain dew
It is ok to be on B team. Expectation are lower and training a little less stressed. Exposure is at most minimal, but playing B team has no aspirations anyway. B team girls lose and go have ice cream.
A team will probably be Republican, and B team, well you know.
LOL! Thanks for the chuckle!
10:09 very timely
just showed my office and everyone laughed.
B team jokes:
Hey Dad, I want to grow-up and be on B team.
oh oh got one
coach, come see me play, we are better then the C team.
Wow, I am just learning something. All this talk about B team and I thought it was just about BOYS team.
I did not realize it was just the second low level team.
Soccer mom
Holy crap you are all crazy! These are 13 year old girls. Come talk to us when they are 17 and not playing or better yet, they quit because you all pressured them into the game of Soccer. This is a small step in your girls lives, enjoy the moment, the day the year. It can all be snuffed out in the blink of an eye!
Who gets more upset? A team parents or B team parents. Answer:
poster 1:56 ok ok I have to admit I am a B team parent of a goalie, but her main sport is a top Basketball Forward.
10:09
I am not sure I understand the Rebublican/Democrat point. Based on the last election it seems your A team is dysunctional, out of sync, and out of touch, they can't communicate and lost hands down and got beat easily in the Senate and Presidential race and lost the popular vote in congress. While the socialist B team were all on the same page, stuck to message well, and were better coordinated and were able to recruit better players.
The B team won against an A team. I guess it is all in your perspective. Using your analogy, it makes sense that one club's B is an A team in another club.
9:38. Did your daughter really want to leave the friends she loved on her small town club? Or was it your decision so you could snob hob with all your soccer parent friends about her match fit jersey. Ask yourself and answer truly. Just be glad I didnt bring my daughter to take her spot. And her stupid jersey.
8:52
Ask yourself and answer truly. Your daughter wanted to tryout for a better club, but you couldn't face the embarrassment if she didn't make it of going back to the parents of your old club with your tail between your legs.
B team just wants everyone to get along. Everyone gets a trophy and a hand out.
Mr. Food Stamp President will take care of you. 22 million more Americans on Food Stamps in last 5 years. 3 million Illegals on USA Food Stamps. Princeton now accepting Illegals and giving scholarships to Illegals. Way harder for US tax paying parents to get their kids in major Universities.
In NJ, illegals are getting money designed for Home owners and tax payers that have had property for generations from Sandy Bill. Someone said where is the Sandy money going?
So unemployment is down to 7.5% with
less people working today by 3 million people then 5 years ago? Not sure how that math works , but probably get an A in public schools.
How can the rate go down with less people working.
the rate goes down when you stop counting people who have been unemployed for over XX months.
Back to B team jokes.
Hey coach, we play right after the A team, please stick around.
12:13 Too late. My burn was better than your burn.
Wow. Do you go back and read your posts to see how asinine they sound? A team, B team. You are all bragging about your 13 year old kids accomplishments. Since it is an anonymous blog, how about you tell me about your accomplishments, any, athletically, professionally, charitable. I guess if you did, it may reveal your identity.
Go find a league to play in. Kick butt or embarrass yourself. How many of you played anything competitively? I venture to guess not many. If so, you would not have to find your self esteem in your kids accomplishments. You sound like a bunch of arse holes.
Good luck to the teams still in club cup. Well done.
Be happy that NJ is a hotbed of talent and that there are many options for your girl.
Do the math, geniuses, 10 pretty competitive teams in NJ, maybe more. Each has about 6-8 very, good players, that makes 80 minimum that are comparable, if not better, than your kid. Each team will have 2-4 exceptional players, that can make any team any day. Ah, I forgot, all of you still believe that is your kid.
Who says things like " your lucky that I did not bring my daughter to try outs". Losers! JC grow up and find a way to find your own satisfaction from life.
Again good luck girls.
Can we find a forum that offers insight, opinions, options, without having to digress to the immature, arrogant, and childish behavior on this blog.
Your daughters would disown you.
Try BOTN (backofthenet.com)
Wow
Copa 5-4 over south in a second half comeback
PDA 8-1 over Matchfit with the one goal from a penalty
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Interesting games
"Kick , run and score will work.
MF over gunners 2-1.
May 8, 2013 at 3:05 PM"
Final Score: PDA Gunners 9, MFRovers 1. Only because they had a PK
Whadda you say bud?
MF tried hard to change the playing style of the Rovers, but due to a number of reasons, both political and technical, was unable to do so. Such a shame, they were a very competitive and athletic set of girls who played hard and played to win. Again, the parents screwed the whole thing up. It's always the parents. That's why 8 or so players left. It could've been different.
Well, the gunners won. 4-2
MF WON 2-1, IT IS POSTED ON WEB
LOSER GUNNER PARENT,MAKING STUFF UP
Semi final games:
Gunners over MF either 8-1 or 9-1
Milan over Pride 5-4
Final game:
Gunners came back from first half deficit to beat Milan 4-2. Milan scored an own goal which put gunners ahead 3-2, and gunners scored once again in second half. Milan ran out of steam and could not counter.
MF winning 2-1? Check your sources...
I think we can all agree that it's more likely that PDA won...
Sorry it was the other age group. pda lost again to Bucks at u-15. Bucks beat pda twice in last month. Looks like the only really good pda team is O'R.
You are on the wrong blog...this is for U13. Nobody cares about FC Bucks U15 beating PDA. Who have the Bucks U13 beat.
Seems like it was good games this weekend. From what I heard Matchfit had a depleted bench and not all their girls were there. I guess PDA South played a great first half and then the wheels feel off the bus. Good job to FC Copa for keep fighting. Lesson learned by both teams. Keep playing and never give up. I guess I expected the MF and PDA to be a bit closer but I guess with MF situation and kids not showing up made it a long game for them. Well for the girls that did show up I applaud you that your parents have given you a great foundation of finishing what you started regardless of the situation your dealt. I guess FC Copa either outplayed the PDA Gunners in the first half to have lead at half. I guess as some of us expected, the PDA Gunners won it in the end. Either way great weekend for New Jersey soccer and the young ladies for all teams that played. No wonder why New Jersey is such a hot bed for soccer. Thank you ladies for a wonderful Tournament.
Why can't the NJ Cup games be played on better fields? Let's face it, the games yesterday were marred by standing water and mud. Both teams had to play on the same field but the risk of injury should have been more important than the game itself.
Last year Maryland played on the worst fields for State Cup games except the Finals. All games were on those polo fields at Harford. Just awful, and short, with a thin layer of mulch spread over to absorb the water. Watch goalies punt the ball back and forth at u-13 because the fields were so short.
Many people complained and complained, and this year all games were at the Maryland Soccer Complex.All is good.
Suggestion: Stop with each other on this blog and start up with NJSA. How loud can you be NJ?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU !
I couldn't agree more. If you all stop the moaning and stand up to NJ Soccer and let them know your State Cup games should be played on great surfaces. Now that is worth complaining about.
Does anyone have any information on the NJX Barcelona team? Will it be an NJX team next year or a Matchfit team?
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Does anyone have any information on the NJX Barcelona team? Will it be an NJX team next year or a Matchfit team?
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Here is a better idea. Call the club yourself and find out then let us all know. Or I could make up something and be totally off the wall and have you believe me.
No more holmdel barca team 90% girls leaving for other teams because match fit doesnt have a clue! Obviously proven by the destruction at the hands of PDA. Nice job matchfit destroying a good top ten team.
That's a shame if true. That team had a lot of potential. Where are most of the girls going?
Thats too bad, that was a great group that was moving in the right direction. PDA, NJSA, NJ Wildcats and Freehold Celtic will be getting some good players and great kids!
That's crazy they were good!! What did MF do to screw it up!
So two good teams are losing girls because of Matchfit? Rovers and Barca? I thought Matchfit was supposed to draw the talent, not drive it away.
Heard they are chaning there name to match unfit ....unfit
The teams are just changing there names under the MF umbrella. Relax, most girls will stay with MF and some will leave. MF has attracted so many players recently in all age groups that it is adjusting to overwhelming volume. Things will settle in a few weeks.
I heard that Match Fitf is a disorganized mess and the club officials were not pleased throughout many of the age groups in the quality of girls they got. Many of the newly formed ECNL teams will not be competitive.
You relax, that is absolutely true 90% of Baarca players leaving for other teams
my kid got a 'callback' for the MF ECNL team when she never went to the original try out! That tells me that MF was unhappy with what/whom turned up at their try outs and were out fishing for more players.
Other than a few girls, beleive most of Barca was going to stay put, but given the mishandling of the tryout process by MF many of the girls tried out elsewhere just as a precautionary measure. Unfortunately due to the lengthy and mishandeled MF tryout process and lack of communication and timing concerns, families got concerned and nervous and many of the girls ended up having to commit to other teams. It's a shame for those girls that tried to hang in there until the end and stay with their team.
Not sure about Rovers or Revolution, but heard that as existing MF teams those teams made up the majority of the ECNL and NPL teams for next year with some additions to their rosters and minus some that left because of the long commute to Hazlet.
So it sounds like you are saying 90% of barca girls aare leaving and mf tryouts were a joke but in a nnice way.
Will MatchFit have a North team at all next year?
MF players aobut 20 aqree leaving due to lack of training and devlopment. Some were offered spots but decided to turn it down and go some place else.
The MF tryouts were very well attended with a large number of girls and many very talented players. From what Ive heard and read above it seems that the process was drawn out and flawed. and at least as it related to Barca the uncertainty and lack of communication created a bit of a panic. but so it goes at U14 and U15 as parents try to secure the best situation for their daughters and unfortunately often have to base decisions on rumor as its the only information available at times
Sounds more like an ecnl problem. Another team/club to sit at bottom of conference at get hammered. How come 1/2 the ecnl teams have a negative GD? Some are even at -15 or -22 and more. Wow! what happen to the e in elite. Apparent the e now stands for everyone.
Granted , there are very good ecnl teams, but most are average at best.
Can not see development winning/or losing 5-0. But maybe those practice dummy players can finally get some playing time. Ecnl rosters can have up to 30 players, most at 22-24.
MF tryouts and selection process was the worst I've seen. Total chaos and uncertainty. MF officials not returning phone calls, and explanations of how the girls were selected did not make any sense at all. Lots of solid players not offered NPL, nobody will give a clear explanation of the selection process.
A bunch of players quit one by one over the Fall/Spring season as they were not being developed. Another dozen or so applied and accepted offers from other teams. Those that were left got screwed thinking there was some sort of "Loyalty", and their daughters left out. What a mess.
But this slow-moving trainwreck is not over yet. I bet a lot of parents offered ECNL do not fully realize what they are getting into, and will probably drop out once they realize the kind of commitment required(a 5 hour turnaround each practice day?- what about Schoolwork?)
Meanwhile, with NPL training at Hazlet, parents from the North are balking at the 50 mile drive during rush hour. So there's the rumor of forming another team up North (but what league will they play? USYS?)
So the MF drama continues. Glad we don't have to deal with that! Whew.
Toms River needs a quality girl. Great situation. Practice with GCU Head Coach Jim Moore is Tuesday At 5:30 ,Thursday 6:30. Shelter Cove Field,Bay Ave Toms River.
The tryouts couldnt of been that bad for MF since they ended up with 3 PDA Gunners A team It looked like they had over 80 girls at the tryout compared to the PDA tryout which had 65 but out of the 65, 52 were made up of Pda Gunners white, blue and atletica...what does that tell you. politics, money and greed and parents are sick of it
9:15 is right and they may not have a "B" team with players disgusted and leaving
Will the GCU coach be taking over the Toms River team next year? I heard they will still have the dad coach but not sure if that is true or rumor.
Girls received the I am the Boss speech tonight at practice. You can take that for what its worth. A college coach training your daughter for a fraction of the cost and BS. No brainer.
PDA may have internal issues but they are the most well respected and best place for development in the country. Hands down. Match Fit is a poser. THey take existing teams and slap the jersey on them and take the money. I don't think they are prepared for this entry into ECNL in several age groups including ours and u-12. They aRe disorganized at all levels. Prediction ; epic fail
PDA may be the best for development if you are on Gunners but I doubt any parent of an Athletica or Pride player would agree they are getting top notch development. Those teams will always be play (and pay!!) second and third fiddle to the mighty Gunners.
Slow down on the Gunner development verses the Atletica development. I always find those comments funny and allows me to see inside the person that is making those comments. I see that you see development as winning. not learning but winning and thats it. Also if you knew either of the teams you would to say that development is happening. Many of the so called "mighty" Gunners were Atletica players. These are the same reasons why the this country is so far behind in soccer and will always be. We preach to our kids or to the teams that we coach or train that we are not worried about winning but just getting better and developing. Well look at any so called academy or town team and read any mission statement of either and they will say the same thing. Its like they all cut and pasted from each other. I believe that all these teams say it because its sounds good but do they actually mean it....well I think they do but just have different ways about going about it. Soccer in the USA is not about developing but about winning and winning will make a team seem as they are developing. PDA will be fine as they always has. Matchfit will be fine and for those that are already dooming them and complaining about tryouts and how they handled it. Well hey cut them some slack ECNL is new to the club and although the process may have seemed bad this is something that they can build on going forward and making it better. I applaud them for joining a league that they have been trying to become a member of for some time. Now NJSA04 need to step up and get things going down in Jackson so that we have 3 teams in New Jersey in this "Elite" league. I am not a hater and I am just a fan of all young kids that want to make it big and something out of themselves. I don't care if its PDA MFC NJSA ASA MSC or whatever letters you want on your chest I am a Fan I would say keep your head up yound lady but I know kids don't post on here but to the parents tell your kids to keep their head up and keep HUNTING!!!!
Keep hunting for what? The next best team? Bettering yourself by joining one of these "elite" teams.? This is what's wrong with US soccer. Too many crazy. Parents ripping their kids out of great places and great atmospheres with the flalse promises of. Scholarships and college play. Only a select few, and I mean few, will want to or be able to, play at that level and they should be at PDA. . Ask your KIDS what they want without influence. Might surprise you.
See thats what I am talking about. I say keep HUNTING and you automatic think about switching teams. What I mean and will always mean when I say keep HUNTING is never give up on your dreams no matter what they are. You will have to take 1000 "NO's" before someone will say "YES" for my kids its life and all about life to keep HUNTING and never give up. Even girls that have left and joined teams that my child have been on I tell them to KEEP HUNTING. Sports is not fair at all and its only fun to kids if they are winning PERIOD.......There is nothing false about promising your child they will get a Scholarship. It is true they will get one. Now it may not be to the school of their choose and it may but its up to them and how they fit in to thats colleges coaches plan. I believe that EVERY kid playing soccer will have a place to play in college if they choose to play. Do you actually know how many school are in D1 Div 1AA D2 D3 Junior College. There are a lot of school out there. Will every kid play D1.....well thats up to the kid and how bad they really want it. Remember "RUDY" was a true story I know exactly what my kid wants without influence...thats a no brainer. If you are in touch with your children they have to trust you and you trust them that its okay to talk, argue and debate and at the end love each other just the same. So I am not surprised at all we are raising our children the way they should go and hopefully GOD will lead them to where he wants them to be.
Not even touching that I believe it speaks for itself. ^^^
Come talk to us here in this board about PDA developing players when they stop cutting bottom third off of every team. Then we can talk about true development vs recruiting. Most of these other teams have no cuts - or cuts that amount to 1 or 2 children, who really weren't interested in continuing playing. That is NORMAL attrition. I live in the PDA north area and every single year here all about the 4-5 girls cut from small sided teams and the 7-9 girls cut from full sided teams. What do those type of numbers tell you? Either that the pda coaches don't know how to pick a team each and every year, OR which is most likely, that they are not interested in developing over the course of years, just switching out their teams for the next 9 best players.
I am sure PDA parents will now start posting about a core group of 6-7 girls who were on the team from U12 or U13. That is great for those girls. Unfortunately it stinks for the other 15-20 who got cut along the way. And yes I said 20 - go check the ECNL rosters which are online for all to see - PDA carrying some very large teams. 22-27 kids per roster.
I don't think the people running to ECNL know what they are getting into. ECNL teams can roster 30 players, and you never know from week to week whether you will play. There will be a lot of disappointed ECNL girls who think they are joining the nirvana of soccer but a good portion of the girls will never see/or see very little ECNL time because I think only 20 can be carded for games.
I understand your point about PDA and the developing of players and how the "Cut" the bottom 3rd (whatever that is suppose to mean). Name one team just one team that doesn't host TRYOUTS. They all do even the same town teams. Do they recruit....listen they don't have to. Kids come to them and the parents that are their do the recruiting of other kids to come to their kids team. PDA doesn't openly solicite kids or families. Well at least not mine lol. Now whether you cut 1 kid or 5 kids whats the difference. YOU ARE STILL CUTTING A "KID". Doesnt matter lol lol 1 or 5 or 10 for that matter you are still cutting and thats not developing and I dont care who you are or what club you are. As a "COACH" in my eyes you take the responibility of training a kid from the time they come to you till the time "THEY" decide that they want to go elsewhere. If you only want to coach the TOP kids then to me thats coaching and thats it. Now if you want to talk about developing thats something different. Its kinda like school I always use pose this question to my teachers. Do you want to be a teacher or an educator. Being a teacher is showing up on time and giving the lessons to the students and at the end of the day walking out and going home. Educating has no reference to time and when educating it will take a lot longer to reach every kid and make sure that every kid understands and learns what you intend for them to learn. Im my opinion as an educator my all the kids that come into my classroom should get an "A" and if not I am at fault because I failed them. Just as in soccer or sports lets say. If I have to cut a child then that is on me as a "COACH" its not the kid its the "COACH". Well like I said thats my opinion. I don't get into the core player nonsense. To me thats just to justify that you are part of the "beginning". The whole ECNL thing to me is funny but hey I remember when JAGS was the place to be lol now I guess its ECNL. JAGS is now what MOSA is and MID-JErsey. Before long it will be something else over time. What I like is that we are actually have a good conversation with different opinions but healthy. I always said that this age group of parents either are getting it or maybe they see what goes on these other age group blogs thats somewhat shameful. Nobody has bashed PDA or MATCHFIT or NJSA04 and so forth. Maybe had an opinion which is good but the conversation is healthy and most of all TASTEFUL.
ecnl allows up to 30 players on roster. Most have 22-24. Not so sure how playing time is adjusted, but sure know where all the money from carrying so many players goes.
Hey coach, come see me play, I might get 20 minutes this game.
Why is ecnl promoting Match Fit so much?
9:24
Many parents are "ripping the kids out of...." poor atmospheres.
thus the reason for the change.
POOR of course pertaining to their individual situation..
As a parent you should always analyze options.
If ECNL is promoting Matchfit I would imagine that its a good idea for them to do so. They want Matchfit to succeed as well as I do personally and I don't have a child there but some friends and I would want their kid to be of something great as well as mine if the opportunity presents.
So you think if your kid plays for Matchfit that is automatically something great that they've accomplished. Matchfit will find a spot for you just write the check. Can't make A team? Meet B team or my personal fave "developmental" team. Boy you are their fantasy soccer mom or dad for sure. Keepin em in business.
You are saying Match Fit doesnt make cuts?
So as a total novice any child can walk in and wear the uniform?
1:49 You are aware that PDA also is a big fan of your personal fave "developmental team" at almost every age group boys and girls. This is the same at all of the big clubs. If you like pudding then you will keep eating the pudding no matter the price
ecnl is backing MF with credit status to help secure fields and equipment. I understand MF now has a 100,000 line of credit with the help of ecnl. The issue behind the scenes was the Insurance which ecnl also helped with.
Little rumor has it that pda may pull out all together from ecnl after next year. Looking at and talking with some clubs from the West Coast to do some exchanges with.
Very cool idea, could do it and stay ecnl, but ecnl will get even more upset with pda.
Fasten your seat belts, this is going to be fun next year.
Yes I think Matchfit is great and PDA and NJSA and every other soccer team out there. Anyone who is willing to create some choices for kids that’s fine with me. No I never said that it’s the “BEST” place but it’s a good place. Sure they will cash the checks but so does everyone else. Even your club will cash the checks. Soccer is about business well sorry YOUTH SPORTS in general is about BUSINESS. I am a dad and trust me there is no fantasy over here just reality. But I do love all the teams we YOUTH SOCCER because without YOUTH SOCCER there is no High School, College or Pro Soccer. It all starts somewhere with a kid and a ball in my eyes and so what people are looking to capitalize of kids well I say if parents are crazy enough as you and I then its our choice no matter if we pay $5 dollars or $2500. I said it before and I will say it again, once you start taking money to “HELP” kids in my eyes you can never say you are in it to help them. You in it to help yourself first then if by mistake you help one …..You’re a genius I guess lol
10:50 nice write up. However I disagree that the amount of cuts do not matter. My position remains that losing 1-3 girls per year is normal and what happens to most teams or clubs. PDA is out in right field with losing 7-9 girls to cuts each and every year. And their rosters are huge. At that point I think they need to call it what it is - Player Recruitment Academy - no development going on there.
Yes I would agree the training is top notch for the A teams. (Training not development - development implies long term training aimed at improving player at a point into the future). B teams, training not so good. PDA unfortunately does NOT reinvest a B team players $ back into that B team - that $ is going to fund the boys DA. B team players make do often with part time coaches making very little $ and who do not have the time to devote fully to the B team.
And yes I know for a fact that PDA recruits. Two good friends of mine had children who were actively recruited by the same coach, but many years apart. It involved haranguing for a full year and secret early morning workouts so that child's current team would not find out. Is this stuff laughable in the context of youth soccer? For sure. But people please do not kid yourselves that its not going on.
And the last topic that no one is bringing up, is the burn out factor. There is way too much pressure being out on young kids. Burn out does occur, as does major injuries. That's the next chapter in the story.
Thanks for the comment but to continue I still say that cutting any kid is wrong. Knowing what I know about PDA I really think it’s rumor that EVERY team U8 thru U19 cuts 7 to 9 players each season. I will say that this year was the biggest turnover and mainly because one team went from 3 teams down to two teams in the age group and the loss of kids in that process I understand. Does it make it right HECK NO but I understand. Also with the ECNL coming to Matchfit which I think is great is going to give more girls opportunities to play on the ECNL platform. If you look at the NJO website and look at the YOUTH TRYOUT section….now that is recruitment. Just look at the Tryout forum on that page and you tell me how many times you see PDA listed asking for kids to come to tryout. Then look at the list and see how many clubs or academy’s are listed multiple times and constant. That’s recruitiment. PDA is PDA It’s a name as anyone else can have or makeup. Do they develop players…..yes they do but so does the rest of NJ. People get caught up on the name instead of what they are doing. They are doing what every other club is doing. Making money and helping the few that they can. Will they be able to help everyone…no but they will be able to help the majority and everyone else has and can. Your second paragraph seems to be spot on with where the money is going because with the likes of Red Bull and their “FREE” to play hurt PDA in the beginning and PDA I believe HAD to do something or they were going to lose more and more talent to the RED BULLS. Now as far as low training for “B” teams I would disagree because the coaches are coaching two types of style in children. Most girls on the B teams are girls that haven’t grown as players and kids yet. Will they of course they will. When you look at the A teams and B teams on any club the A team always look like bigger fastest kids as the B team where kids aren’t the fastest and not the tallest compared. Technically they are all very close in player but size and speed are what coaches look at which is funny because some of the best players in the world in this game of soccer are small, When you say that your friends kid is actively recruited and that early morning sessions are made so that this kid can get a look I say this and I say this only………its not that your kid is that much better but your pockets may be a little deeper and CASH RULES EVERYTHING AROUND US SCREAM………get the money DOLLAR DOLLAR BILL Y’all.
That is my opinion and I am just saying does it happen HECK YEAH it does. Is it right NOPE but it does happen. If you think that only happens at so called PDA then you are in a sleep world cause it happens in all of sports. As long as people keep having babies and kids are available people are going to make money off them. I tell my kids If I have to pay a coach for you to get on the field then your butt will be sitting the bench. I am from the old school where sports were free and I will continue to believe that and let things for my kids to work out the way they are suppose to. PDA doesn’t make or break a kid. It’s the kid that makes or break themselves. If a kid wants its there is nothing a coach or club is going to do to stop them. All coaches have favorites and I know that and its cool with me but that’s not going to stop my kids because it will be left to them to decide (meaning my kids).The burn out factor is fake and I have always believe that players don’t burn out. What happens is they feel that they are not longer the big fish in the little pond and some kids just can’t take that and then the excuses come about how they are tired of playing or its not fun anymore. That’s not burn out to me that you are tired getting your but kicked. I tell my older son who someday may be a pro well the way it looks he is pretty much on the path but not in soccer, but football and I tell him all time someday someone that is bigger, stronger or faster is going to step right into where you want to be and if you are not ready to fight for your livelihood AKA JOB basically you might as well stop now cause its going to happen and I don’t wanna hear anything about BURN OUT cause you’re not burned out. I tell my kids that they can stop when ever they want and I am ok with that. This is what they want to do, not me I can just support them and make sure that they are always fighting and hunting and learn that sport is about life. Its not fair and its not fun if you are not winning. That’s the bottom line winning is fun, losing is not fun and learning is not taking place.
you left out the part of being the coaches favorite and/or paying his services to train and start that player because hes getting paid dolla dolla bills y'all and I dont care how you say it, if your mediocre and you pay the coach for extra training (which I think that a coach should never charge his/her own players for training) do you think that player is going to sit or play? let me answer Play because the player is now the coaches cash cow. unfortunate but true
I didn't realized that academy coaches made extra
Money by traing their own players on the side??
No way that is allowed!
Early morning workouts? Get real. PDA has no problem bringing in new competition during every practice. It motivates the current players and shows all that they are always looking to get better.
Standard practice at PDA South.
Meant to say academy coaches getting paid to train their own players on the side is standard practice at PDA South!
They are not full time coaches. Do you really expect them to train your daughter on a different day for free?
WHAT,
4:34. So all the Coaches have to say to any of their players "I think you need to work on your shooting and OH I am just the trainer to do it" My fee is $300/hr. As the player you are now left with a dilemma do I train with my coach and go broke or do I decline and never see the field again. This is why most clubs have this written in their By laws as do PDA not to have their coaches train their own player...Conflict of Interest.
4:34 you must be one of those coaches...lol the coaches I know will work for free for their team
If you don't think coaches play their favorites over better players then your a moron.They always have built in excuses ...I was Letting her develop. Or the other way ..she is just not developing at the pace we would like.....or she needs to work on some things. To develop a player or team you have to find what they do poorly and work at it...period. Just playing the game does help but you can see bad habits that are being learned.
PDA does not develop at all. They run some drills that you can see at every practice of a decent team. Then scrimmage. So why are they good ..because they recrut NOT DEVELOP. Parents want their child to get more playing time so they find extra training to help them outside the team. That way only their child gets better.Sometimes a couple will go together but not to many because then they will all get better and then no one gains an advantage.PDA calls it compitition...the rest of the world calls it fear of getting behind or replaced.For that you pay about $4000.00 a season. Plus the training to get your child ahead or at least even.
Before the Brainwashed PDA parents come out ...no I don't have a daughter that plays for them or ever did. It was a friend of my daughters. I just listened to it and can't believe it goes on.
Cant believe what goes on?
Believe it. Can't wait to see this blog after next season, big changes to teams and even bigger disappointments. Never believe what you are told by your child's academy coach. They are always looking for the next best thing. Today's superstar is tomorrow's benchwarmer.
Never believe what you read on an anonymous post of someone saying "it's not my child" or "it was a friends kid."
Last week was Match Fit week, it looks like we are entering PDA week. My guess is that PDA named their teams this week and all the parents who loved PDA last year but didn't make it this year are coming out to write.
Yes well there are lots of them 7-9 x every full sided team. And 4-5 x every small sided team. Unfortunately.
Right so all the Match Fit and PDA ECNL parents, you've signed the deal with devil, you shouldn't come back on this blog in a year complaining about the club when your daughter is not playing on a roster of 30 and there are 11 kids getting the majority of time.
Are there really rosters of 30? That really cant be true. Name 3 teams that have a roster of 30.
You can do your own research on the ECNL. ECNL teams can carry 30 players, and most carry 25 plus. My oldest daughter played for a Pennsylvania ECNL team that carried 26. I think only 18 can be carded for a game. So even at the low end of 25, 7 kids are not carded every weekend and then 4-5 are not getting a lot of time, so you have 11-12 kids at a minimum who play very little soccer unless they play down on another club team. You can freely contact the ECNL or an ECNL coach and verify everything that I have said. Up until this year, there has been only one ECNL club and now there are 2. We will see how many kids they roster. My point is, if you have an average ECNL player, you will have a lot of parent management on weekends.
from what i've heard, PDA Gunners is trimmed to 19 players and MF will carry 22. now that may expand to 26+ over the course of the season, which is what we've seen at PDA with players getting promoted from Atletica if they are playing well. the point is - these ECNL teams,above all NEED to win. so forget about development - if your daughter is not measuring up to their standards, she won't play
Congrats to the u13 PAE state champsions. FC Bucks Fusion. Best of luck at regionals.
NPL teams that have booked a ticket to the Champions Cup so far.
Eastern Development Program TBD
Florida Premier League Jacksonville FC
Gulf States Premier League Chicago Fire Juniors of Miss.
Midwest Developmental League TBD
New York Club Soccer League TBD
NorCal Premier League TBD
Oregon Premier League EMFC Athletica Blue
Pacific Developmental NPL TBD
South Atlantic Premier League TBD
Southern California NPL FC Golden State
Washington State Premier League ISC Gunners A
Hey milan,jueventes and barcelona lets pull out pf matchfit i dont know the politics of it but with enoigh parents involved we can get the fields taking away from those vultures
As a Rover parent i am also displeased with Matchfit
7:19 - as a Rover parent, you are "displeased" with Match Fit?
LMFAO - that is hilarious. MFC brought your town team that had a lot of athletic and determined players (minus the skills) into the Academy in the hopes of creating a team that plays the game properly. Then you sabotage the best intentions of the club by booting the trainer and insisting that "kick and run" is the way to play. Why do you think you lost a third of your player pool halfway through the season? I feel for your girls and all that wasted time, but if you don't understand the game, get out of the way and let the pros handle it. That's really what you're paying for, right? The girls just want to learn, play and have fun - it's always the parents that screw it up.
Please name me one team in the u-12 u-15 age group that MF has actually developed.? Not impressed.
MF and Pros in same sentence must be a clerical error.
Matchfit 2-0 loss to NJSA yesterday hope thats not there encl team.... cant remeber the last time they won anything
The customer is always right! You should maybe listen to what they are saying, parents are taking there kids elsewhere maybe you havent noticed. Pros ! Lmao!
JUST goes to show you its not about the money, both rosters are full. Money cant buy your way in as the teams get older ,its about skills.
Yes, I mean Pros as in Professional. Not just MF, but PDA, NJSA, World Class, etc. These people teach train soccer players as their job. I am comparing them against parents like you(well, not all of you, but you know who you are) - who never played the game, never seen one La Liga match don't know what "playing the advantage" means. Yeah, those parents who cheer loudly when their daughter boots the ball high up in the air towards the opposing end for no particular reason and without any purpose. Yeah, that's you - who screw up the environment because of your ignorance. If you want your daughter to participate in high level soccer, then educate yourself. That is all.
Most parents want to blame the coach or team for the kids not developing but the truth is they need to practice on there own. There is a reason why teachers give you home work, same applies in soccer. Your 400 doller driver sucks if you cant hit the golf ball. In this country you people just go buy another club.
For 11:38am
I would agree with you on the point that you make but that has been happening for years in not just soccer but other youth sports. The whole thing that everyone is a winner and everyone has to have fun is not for the kids but more for the parents and that the parents feelings aren't that their son or daughter's wasn't as good as the other team. America as a whole has watered down sports and instead of teaching or kids how to fight and push through we want to soften the blow and disquise the true lesson of what sports is about and what it will teach you as a person and team. No we don't want to hear the truth of those words..."You were not good enough today"..... or "Sorry but your team lost today" its like Taboo and if a child hears those words they will automatically melt right on the spot. What parents don't realize is that by sometimes losing or getting your butt whip you as a player will learn something from that, but what do we do now we put a cap on the score and for what....well we call it SPORTSMANSHIP, but the real reason is to ease the blow to the coaches or parents ego that they just got blown out by a better team. We as a sports community are doing nothing to prepare these young kids for the REAL WORLD with the methods we are using.
Yes, agreed, the whole political correctness in youth sports in the USA is pure BS.
My beef is that at least 50% of parents (esp the Dads) and their daughters, don't even watch football (MLS does not count, okay?, so it's Football). So how will these girls understand how the game is played and what is possible? Didn't you all watch MLS, NFL, NBA and NHL and imagined those plays? How can you emulate proper play when you don;t know what it is?
The biggest problem with what you said about the Kids have to practice and develop on thier own is then what are paying the "pro" coach for if the kids have to develop by themselves. That is the most expensive babysitter I have ever seen. My other favorite line I heard on a side line from a coach to a parent "I am not worried about winning now that will come later I am looking to develop for the future".To which the poarent replied," If they still aren't winning later do I get the money back i spent to get here?"
Now that is perspective.
10:53, Please tell me you are not soccer educated because below U14 these kids are developing and should not worry about winning. If I had a very good coach/trainer with a mediocre team, I would take that any day over a coach/trainer that cant handle a ball or a team for that matter. After U13 its a different story
It sounds like you payed for some abc on a soccer shirt and your daughter dident play. Im sure you left you town team like most parents do a little to early. A athletic kid will always shine and be the best on the team at a early age. The true perspective is soccer is a skill that take years to develope. THERE ARE NO SHORT CUTS. DO YOUR HOME WORK.
amen 9:29am
Delco predictions??
9:29 has it right, my daughter has played for an "ABC" team for several years and if I had to do it all over again I probably would have stayed at a town team and invest some of the ABC cost into private training or group skill training. Girls go through so much change through 13/14 that it is not easy to see what kids will emerge and what kids won't. We have all seen the big physical kid that dominated for so long that is no longer an effective player at the higher level. The ABC teams have girls as young as U-8. ABC prices and professional coaching makes no sense at those ages. Quite frankly, it is the delusional parent that thinks otherwise, and I was one of them. My daughter has been fortunate to emerge with skill, but I have seen way too much turnover of kids at young ages to think that it is a worthwhile investment.
World Class
Everton Elite
Premier Thunder
Arsenal FC
Back to matchfit! Since they havent been able to develop a good team even in npl no way will they be able to recruit one for encl. They should have taken best girls from rovers and homdel maybe some top revolution girls and developed a good team. Lets face facts the rovers and homdel teams wete top ten teams in the state
Apprently the pros at MF were to confifent in their developmeny powers.
What a tool you are. YOU are a parent from holmdale whoes little sally got cut. IT was so clear who the top 20 girls were. AS far as those teams being a top 10 team that means nothing. Stop reading got soccer and those silly points. If the girls from Holmdale were top 10 why did they all leave. And whare did they go.
Did i make a matchfit pro sad? Now ,now
If i were a tool, i would like to be a hammer.
then i could hammer in the morning , hammer in the evening, hammer all day and night,hammer about the love between.....you know how it goes
any other Delco tourny predics??
In Bracket A this is a tough Bracket to pick being that I feel 3 of the teams are very close and it could swing eitherway. I would have to give the swing to Bethesda in this one. Manhattan could prove to be very good and run away with it. If Manhattan can put together two halves of good soccer they can be the team to beat in this bracket. FC Penn really hasn’t been tested on the waters but could call for an interesting Saturday if the weather holds and they are able to get off to a good start. Beachside, Va will have a tough weekend I believe.
Pick: Bethesda
In Bracket B looks like World Class will be the Class of this Bracket. With the talent and skill this team has it will be teams playing to finish in the wildcard spot if World Class make it though. Although FC Europa can show signs of good soccer, they simple don’t have enough to take down the likes of World Class. Quickstrike will suffer from this bracket as YMS and FC Europa will be a game that would swing either way. It should be a great game and with Semi Finals in the grasps for one of them.
Pick: World Class
In Bracket C looks as it will be a physical bracket with the likes of North Rockland and ABGC who both play a physical style game but are very good at playing soccer. Council Rock and PDA Pride will fight it out for bragging rights but one will finish without a win in this bracket. Although ABGC can be very good North Rockland can be ice cold or really hot. If North Rockland scores first game over, and goals only bring out the best in this team. ABGC will play its stellar defense and slowly try to put teams to sleep before they put them away. PDA Pride will try to use their procession style of play to them to the back of the net but I think they will fall short on that both ABGC and NR’s defense is far more superior than most and FC Bucks will try to use their athletic mids and strikers to outrun but in the end the road will begin and end on Saturday with 2 losses and possible a third on Sunday if they don’t get up for PDA Pride which will be a play for whoever finishes 0-3.
Pick: ABGC Premier
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