1107 which are the "quality clubs" across the Delaware to which NJ players should be looking to join?
Does anyone know anything about Continental? Not doing so well in the standings, but interested in the club, the coach etc.
Hi Eric above
I'm not sure if your talking to me but what's up.
What a perfect day for soccer! Damn!
Can anyone give real advice with no anger. My daughter plays for an NPL team in NJ. She is not the best player but not the worst. The coach has his favorites and plays them more time because he trains them privately and yes gets extra money for the training. I was thinking of moving my daughter to Pa club to get away from this ......stuff. Does this .....stuff go on across the river. I am happy with the time she plays she gets over half the game. Don't like much else about the team, She likes a couple of girls and dislikes some. Parents are pretty normal as well some we like some not so much.
Your assuming that he is playing the kids he personally trains more because they "pay him extra"? I would assume that your also saying that these kids aren't as good as your daughter but they are playing more and are his "favorites"? So when you spoke to the coach what did he say about it? What did the director of the club say about it if the coaches answer was not adequate?
Its unreasonable to assume that someone could approach all coaches about that problem without a vindictive response. The poster admits that his hild is not the best kid on the team. This discussion will likely bring only negative results. The DOC will probably be defensive too because his coaches behavior is a reflection on him. Also the DOC tends to hire coaches with whom they have a relationship and whom he knows will be loyal to him. Further, they are all very quick to assume the parents are all crazy-perhaps. You wont get anywhere with the above advice. I think YMS is very upstanidng in its behavior as is Penn Fusion. From your description, your child might not be a fit for YMS or Penn Fusion's top team. But you could bring her for an evaluation, if the situation bothers you enough to leave.
I have not even approached the coach. If he told me the truth he would be the first academy coach in history that did and not just a rehearsed line that he has given 3 times a month. Then My daughter would be sitting more due to some thing that he has started to see because I questioned his intelligence.The Coaching director is someone that he is very friendly with. Most people are ok with the coach as long as he is not disrespecting the child not very many will admit that they don't like him for fear of reprisals on the child.I was looking to just let her play soccer at a higher level without to much politics involved. Something not driven by money like the 23 person roster thing that is common place now in girls soccer. I would like to see the love of the game still grow and not worry about every practice and every play she doesn't make perfect at 14 years old. She doesn't mind competition but not every time she touches a ball.
What if the DOC is the coach?
FYI some if those 23 roster teams are not really 23. They are doing exactly what they should be doing. They play younger kids up where appropriate and b team players in a to give then a chance to prove themselves. These players often fill temporarily open roster spots due to injury. Many players when offered a spot on the top team are told that they may be moved down if they do not develop. That they will need to do more outside of training to catch up. If they don't then they are at risk. Call the coach to find out the true roster size and whether he is willing to add. Sorry though at the highest levels there is somewhat of a every training session and game are tryouts mentality. It's just the nature of a highly competitive beast. If you don't believe that the coach is good enough at identifying talent- that he knows when a kid isn't hacking- it then find another team. A good talent identifier knows that takes a lot more than one mistake to establish a trend. How the kid reacts to corrections is frequently telling for her future. Is she ready to move out of her comfort zone?
So where did the Div. 1 player go? What was the school? You can walk on at Div. 1 btw. That person can still state they played Div 1. Loyalty is a two way street. Judging from the number of kids at tryouts, there are a lot of girls who appear willing to kick their old club to the curb if they were offered a roster spot. Zero loyalty to the team and coach who "developed" the player. All of a sudden Mia's parents decide Mia is too good for her roots and will take the kid from, say, EB to FC Copa. Screw the old coach and teammates. This is America. Every man, woman, and (soccer) child for themselves. I say before you start complaining about loyalty, everyone should look at how they allowed their daughter to become disloyal when they took Mia to another club's tryout. Or took a roster spot on a new team. If you and your kid are entrepreneurial, then don't get pissed when elite clubs are the same way.
Only you know, I hope, if the team suits your daugther. Like the legend of the Phoenix All ends with beginnings.
Only 1 day left to register for FC Delco tourny. Over 500 teams have already applied. Application deadline is Monday, March 3rd.
ABGC Annandale beats NJ Stallions Stampede 2-1 in semi-finals at Annandale Premier Cup Girls Showcase. Was a good match.
I thought both of those teams were supposed to play at Manhattan tournament this weekend. How did the play in another tournament?
Once Manhattan was cancelled they were able to be put into the showcase down there.
wow. congrats to Elite tournaments and the ASL for perhaps the worst run epic fail of a tournament ever. You planned for 40minute halves with a 5 minute over time. then schedules a new game to start every 85 minutes. DUH of course you were way behind. Teams need time to take the field. Refs like to pee and get a drink. oh and yeah you ran out of refs today so you picked someone to do a flag who apparently never even watched a soccer game. At least when he wiped out and took out the corner flag we got a chuckle. Then in the middle of our game some big guy from Elite tournaments gets his bowels in an uproar. The great crime committed? Someone made the mistake of getting out of the rain by standing under their abandoned tent. What a jack wagon. I guess they forget who hires him. Imagine the money that could be saved by our clubs not using them. I think our club uses them for 4 tournaments. They need to realize they are there to make things go smoothly and coordinate a well run tournament. If you cant do that and screw it all up at least be nice. College coaches? Not Hardly. I did see Allegahny(sp) college. Their coach was laughing pretty good about how bad the refereeing was. Kind of hard to see a girls speed when the ref blows offsides incorrectly repeatedly. Worst over all ref crews I have ever seen. Mixed in was a few really good ones. Perhaps more extreme contrasts then normal. Not sure what I think of refs speaking Spanish and understanding little English. Just a very pathetic tournament. Hopefully we don't waste our money on it next year. And hopefully our club has the common sense to get rid of Elite tournaments and their disastrous planning.
9:29. This goes on at a number of clubs (coach(s) privately training team players for money). It happens at our club but it is not an issue the best players get most of the time. Every game is different and if a player is struggling or not giving 120% they take a seat. "Politics" is also everywhere you go so don't think that you are going to find an oasis in PA. If you daughter is a good player (like you said) they will not want to lose her so talking to coach might not be a bad option if you are already thinking about leaving. What do you have to lose. The bottom line is if your daughter is not happy look to resolve the issue. If she is happy with playing most of the game (which is a good thing) stay put and keep working hard.
Its tough when the coach does not want to believe in your daughter. Gets to the point of minimizing her by too much bench time. I understand benching, but when the girls playing the games are less or equal skilled to the one being benched all the time is just not right. Time to leave the team. Coaches make mistakes. When a coach chooses to not include your player you have to look at the situation closely. Talking to him/her is pointless. If he hasn't seen something by now , he/she never will. It's like asking somebody to please love you. Make a move for your daughter. There is always a spot for her somewhere.
Chantilly Elite over ABGC in the VA tourney final today. Does anyone know why NJ Stampede Stallions only had one substitute player with them? I am guessing that squad was pretty gassed by the end of the weekend.
looks like there is a new #1 team in VA didn't someone on here before state that ABGC has not won a tournament in a few long time and most of there top players left for McLean ECNL ?
The ABGC players that left to McLean didn't help much. Looks like Bethesda beat them today 3-0. Even if ABGC can get their act together and displace the FC Virginia ECNL team, they still face the same fate. Poorly coached athletes who dominated when it was all about size and speed but due to poor training and too much parent involvement now have no idea how to play soccer. They get run off the field when they play a team like Chantilly who plays possession soccer. Chantilly is not even that good. Virginia missed the boat in this age group. The state has a decent crop of athletes who somehow made it to U14 with no idea how to do anything but play kickball (despite what JH and CH are trying to do at Chantilly)
8:41Very true but try reading what you type. I'm assuming you meant 5 minute halftime not overtime. Way to many variances between officials. Substitutions were allowed on any dead ball. Ok what ever. But refs were calling quick throws and quick restarts back for the other teams subs. That shouldn't be allowed and smart refs don't allow it. A couple of good refs that hustled and did their best. A bunch of old or obese refs that couldn't run 100 yards one time if their life depended on it. For a showcase? Watching another team play. I saw a girl laying on her back after she slipped trying to kick the ball in the goal. She was 4 yards out. She got kicked in the side and head as it bounced around but managed to score. The coach questioned it and was told "there is no rule that says you can't kick the ball when your laying down". Ok but it was obviously a dangerous play because she is hurt. The Ref assignor for Elite is a very good referee. Perhaps some proper evaluations and hopefully dismissals would help. Maybe not. When the founder of Elite tournament's is on hand to help orchestrate such a poorly run showcase it might be time to part ways.
1247 - Well said about VA soccer in general and specifically. I think the next year or so will be telling for the top VA teams. The teams that promote and develop technical players will thrive and the others will drop away. There is a reason that the ABGC coach's teams seem to drop off or just disappear in the older age groups. The high speed, high energy, athletic style of play (without good possession) just gets trumped by teams that play with good quality technique individually and as a group. It will be interesting to see who remains at the top.
8:41ASL is a league. Run by member clubs. If you guys don't like Elite get together and get rid of them as an organization. They have strong ties to Columbia but that's only one club.
All the games scheduled vs Stampede for spring EDP are now TBA. What's going on with Stampede?
TBA TO BE ANNOUNCEDI guess they pulled out edp
So where do VA kids go to play "soccer"? Sounds like there are a few coaches (CW at McLean, JH & CH at Chantilly, and Allie Kreiger's Dad at PWSI)worth playing for but limited options to learn soccer otherwise. Having seen my share of college games played kickball style, I guess there's a market for that kind of player. Just not sure that does US Soccer any good settling for that level of development. Bethesda has DG and HS coaching pretty possession soccer that is beating the Virginia teams on the younger age groups,(U13,U14,15). Maybe this is where the talented VA players are going. Anyone have any insight?
If Stampede pulled out of EDP where is the competition in that bracket then. Is Stampede still in EDL?
Bethesda practices at WJ HS (right across the potomac into MD) so any northern VA player interested, this is not a bad drive considering our late start times of 8pm. We also practice at Soccerplex which is in Gaithersburg (where Bethesda tournament is held). This is farther north but far from impossible. Many of the MD United players (other ECNL club in MD) should be trying out at Bethesda as well, especially considering they are currently in last place in same division, Bethesda is in first. I imagine some parents and kids are getting tired of the cost, losing, while at the same time not getting to the premier ECNL showcase champions league tournament. This is the age (upcoming U15) where the truly dedicated players start making moves. Bethesda has a great group of girls, a great coach and club program. We know many of the girls that play on the other top local MD / VA teams due to playing them in local league play over the years. They are all great kids as well and wish them the best wherever they play. Have a great spring season and let the warm weather begin!
Are you kidding stampede was definitely not the best team in edp santos,fc copa even njsa b team beat stampede last season . What is your point
TR EVERTON parents can you explain to me the advantage of join up with pda, you have a good team and with all your points you can play where ever you want. I remember when match fit took over holmdel they also were a good team but where are they now. Is pda promising somethong that i havent heard?
I agree not sure how tr everton/pda merge helps tr everton kids
Anyone know if maps tournament in hammomton,nj is still on for this weekend
Regarding PDA/Everton, you are probably right that there is little benefit to Everton, but no club makes a decision based on one team in their club. In 4 years all of the Everton kids will move on, but there will still need to be a viable club. Whether we like it or not, the landscape for soccer is causing a consolidation of clubs. Maybe the pendulum will swing back, but the Boards of these clubs are recognizing that these partnerships are necessary based on today's soccer environment.
U14 VA teams trying to play a technical, possession style of soccer (IMHO of course): CSC Elite, Herndon United, VYS Black, Richmond Kickers. I am sure that Mclean ECNL and FCV ECNL are trying to as well, but since they each just formed this year it is too early to say anything final about their styles. VYS has lost much talent in the last year. Herndon has a very short resume at this point and will need to show success against better and better teams to get into the elite discussions. FCV is short on talent and will need to develop existing players quickly or add some to make any noise. CSC has largely been together for a while with good talent and it shows. And Bethesda plays a good style over in MD as the recent poster noted. I may be missing on some, but this is a decent list. And as another poster noted, the VA talent is spread around with too many of the very athletic players on direct style teams, and their development is starting to stagnate.
Nice response for the merger written by a board member trusting PDA empty promises of development. Good luck to all the girls willing to leave their teams for such promises.
FC Bucks over Penn Fusion 3-1. This is a bit surprising. Was the difference the NT ringer?
Comments on the PA teams style? FC PA Strikers big, strong, fast and direct. Solid keeper. Bucks decent size with dominant fast, but light and highly technical striker. Mark her well and you have a good chance. YMS technical and quick. Tall strong physical striker.
1:58 Keep sticking your head in the sand with respect to the soccer environment. It's not just PDA - Highland tried with NJSA and now is trying with Rush, Council Rock did it with FC Bucks, Match Fit-Holmdel, Spirit United and FC Delco merging. You are fooling yourself if you think the environment is good for town teams to be successful in the long-term. There is a clear strategy by the larger clubs to consolidate talent. I have no clue whether they will be successful, but if the quality town clubs don't act, they risk being left behind. TR was smart, they did not get consumed by PDA, they formed a partnership which means they can break that partnership if it doesn't work out.
The TR Parents are just pissed because they spent so much time bashing the "three letter club" and now they have to wear those 3 letters on their shirts. It will be fun to hear those parents cheering on the sidelines, "Go PDA!!!"
2:46 you made the same point I made. "consolidating talent" not developing it. I think the last three or four partnerships have not been good for town teams that participated.
whoever says TR EVERTON is becoming PDA. Just cause PDA Shore is having tryout on girls side for teams in TR dont means TR EVerton is going to be part of it.
Right, PDA formed a partnership with TR but will allow teams to pick and choose which ones are part of the partnership, yeah that makes a lot of sense. You might as well start buying your PDA gear now.
So your saying that tr everton is not part of the merge?
Thats what match fit told the holmdel parentsSo i quess it makes sense
So then 3:24 why didnt that happen with Holmdel NJX Barca when match Fit went to Holmdel why didnt they automatically become Match fit. Why did they even have tryouts for each group if they were just gonna take existing teams? Maybe they want to form new teams with the best kids from tryouts regardless of what team you came from previously.
I think there is a political/business aspect to this, as PDA is not as open to clubs it sees as direct competitors for their talent base. Its possible that some clubs would not attend, therefore were not invited. I see a mini-series out of this, perhaps right after Modern Family?"I doubt PDA sees any club as a threat except maybe Matchfit. But even Matchfit as an organization ,needs time to become a bigger threat
Sorry got my age groups confused
11:48am Didnt say Stampede was best team in all of EDP said they were a strong contender in their bracket the 1stD Central, probably one of the best if not the best in that BRACKET. Agree Santos and FC Copa good and point was that all of those teams should have been put in the same bracket and playing each other instead of this North Central South thing. Without Stampede in the Central bracket now that bracket just got watered down and that wouldn't have been the case if all the tope EDP teams were put in the same bracket. Maybe with Premier League, EDL and tournaments Stampede thought they had more than enough games and no need to do EDP now, who knows.
Sorry mis read your post agree with everything you said about stampede
Why is fc bucks over Penn Fusion surprising. Penn Fusion at u14 has been weak since day 1. Bucks at that age has been always strong. In Pags they were d2 (PF) and d2(Bucks).
Please rate top 5 academies 1-5 for player development, i dont care about size or faciliities, for example i would not rate match unfit high because they recruit instead of develop
4:36 agree with you4:43 don't fool yourslf they all recruit.
Toms River Everton Is not becoming a PDA team. The parents and the coaches respectfully declined the offer. There was nothing PDA could offer us that we were not already doing . Our trainer is a college coach. We play some of the top teams in the nation week in and week out. And our mix of girls and parents is something we did not want to sacrifice for any reason. We are hoping to add a few quality kids and parents this spring to make a run at some of these great teams that we play. Numbers are the only thing we believe that separates us from them. So if you want your daughter to play with some quality girls who just happen to be pretty good soccer players, then come on down to the little tryout that will be next to the big rigermarole that will be TRFC/PDA Shore tryouts this spring. Not that this is a bad thing, but it just isnt the thing for us We would love to welcome them and you. Thanks.
1:51 - That's pretty much spot on.Some have hit the nail on the head with regards to what's wrong with youth soccer today. Player development takes a backseat and the focus is on results. Teams that have a high turnover rate never benefit the kids. When players are getting replaced every season or two because someone better comes along, who does that benefit?It takes time to develop players, so the push to win more than the next guy really does a disservice to the kids that are trying to improve. My kid's on a team where most of the girls have been playing together for 5-6 years. They aren't one of the top "ranked" teams, but I'll wager that from top to bottom they are more technical and understand the game better than most "elite" teams out there today. It's taken some time, but they are now playing at a level consistent with the top teams in the region, and it's all because the girls have developed into better soccer players. It's also been quite fun to watch the kids develop as a team, instead of wondering what team we need to try out for next season.
Thank for the info 8:34 how many kid does Toms River EVERTON have on the roster now and how many more are you looking for? Heard the team is also looking for a keeper. Done the academy thing and she love the keeper training she been gettn but can't afford the $$$ anymore when is you're tryout?
:) :) :)
The keeper decided to stay. But we could always use a back up. Come on down.
Check this video out, Its a player (Samantha Tran) who is on the National Team (U14 / and now U15) and plays for De Anza Force ECNL team. They won the U14 ECNL tournament last year. The video is of her last year as a U14 player, she is 15 now and already committed to Stanford… Very good stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqFCpBAobRk
Stampede plays Region 1 so no need to do EDP as well. It would be too many games
Stampede is not the only EDP or EDL team playing Region 1. Region 1 is only seven games over four weekends. Not that many games
As to whether academies recruit, recruiting by PDA South is one of the reasons for the demise of Real Force.
PRESS RELEASE03/06/2014For Immediate ReleasePDA Soccer ClubPDA Announces New Director of Coaching for the PDA Shore The Players Development Academy (PDA) is pleased to announce the hiring of Lee Pollard to the position of Director of Coaching for the PDA Shore program. PDA girls Director of Coaching, Mike O'Neill commented, "We are extremely happy to announce somebody of Lee's caliber to the director of PDA Shore position. Lee is someone we have known for a long time and he joins PDA Shore with a great resume and reputation of being able to get the best out of his players, while preparing them for the highest levels of soccer". O'Neill added, "The PDA Shore relationship with Toms River FC is very special to the PDA and with Lee in place we are excited to see the development of the players and the program".Pollard will oversee the development of the newly formed PDA Shore program for the U9-U18 girls age groups based in Toms River, NJ. "We are thrilled that PDA was able to appoint Lee as the Director of Coaching for the PDA Shore program. Lee has an outstanding reputation in the area and players throughout the Jersey Shore will benefit greatly from his knowledge, passion and teaching of the game", said Carl Leschinski the Elite Director at TRFC. Pollard joins the PDA with an extensive coaching resume including Director of Coaching for NY Red Bulls Regional Development School (RDS), Director of Coaching for Princeton Soccer Association, Region 1 ODP Coach, NSCAA Associate Staff Coach and Jersey United Soccer Club Head Coach. During his 6 years at Jersey United, Pollard helped build the girls side of the program working with the '95, '96 and '98 girls, helping place over 100 players into college programs across the US. On the collegiate level, Pollard worked as an assistant coach at Felician College and more recently as an assistant coach at Fairleigh Dickinson University where in 2010 he helped guide the women's team to its best ever season, winning the Freedom conference and finishing with 15-7-2 record. Tryouts for the PDA Shore will be announced by mid- March for the U9-18 girls age groups.For questions contact Lee Pollard at email@example.com,
WOW so i guess a Toms River board member really is on the blog. Wonder if one of their kids is even a Gu14 player.
PDA Girls College Showcase U14 - U17 Memorial Day Weekend May 24th - May 26th acceptance list. http://www.pdasoccer.org/tournaments/pdagirlscollegeshowcase/512211.html
So looks like the ABGC move to FCC Virginia is off. The contract drafted by the lawyer parent ceded too much control to the ABGC parents and not enough to the club. Must have asked for a no cut clause, no fees, and a liquor stipend for tailgating. The two or three decent players that remain on that team will probably head to McLean orBethesda. After the result last weekend my money is on Bethesda. Did not see the game but heard from one of the AR's it could have been more like 6-0. McLean not ready for prime time.
Hope the new PDA shore DOC is capable of forming clear, concise, and coherent sentences.
Got Soccer Points - Thinking about how to improve the system.I do not think it is fair for a team that brings 2-4 guest players to earn as many points in a tournament as a team that does not. Chances are those players could be real ringers and the possibility of a 1/3 of your field players not normally be part of your team should DQ from earning full points. I am not against guest players I get that some teams may need to bring them...but again is that really the 'team' earning those points?Curious as to what other opinions are any other thoughts as to improve the rankings. Let's keep this constructive and not bash Got Soccer or any teams.
I think that some points could be deferred and if the guests is added to the primary roster within a month then the points should be awarded. I agree ringers should affect the points. But a guest who is being essentially given a tryout during a tournament should not be discouraged.
Why is it again that you care so much about the points? So your player is in a high points team but she is nit that good, that makes you feel better? The #1 FC Strikers just lost in AZ bad! So whats the point of the points? POintless imho
Points get you into good toutnaments playing in top level flights, lets face it for the most part gotsoccer gets it pretty close, top 5 teams should be where they are. Now a days where your teams plays league wise gets you points and if it doesn't your team is playing in the wrong place as far as subs wouldnt you perfer to go against the best team possible.
Take all of your ranked events (even ones that you received "0" points" in) and divide total points by number of ranked events your team participated in. Gotsoccer overweights teams that are "tournament happy". If a team plays in 6 events and wins 10,0000 points aren't they better than a team that played in 12 events and won 11,000? So the team that played in less events would score (after dividing total points by number of events) 1,666.66 vs 916.66 for the team that played in multiple events. When you play in a tournament and get a "0" it needs to be factored into the equation.
I agree got soccer gets it close not perfect but close in nj the top 10 except for mercer magic, egsa razzle dazzle and maybe westfield is pretty good but kudos for the coaches of the 3 teams i mentioned because they did a.good job of manipulating the system to be where they are
Yeah but even with all the factoring most of all the top ten tems should be there
Looking for legit reasons to leave where i am at and going to pda shore... any ideas to the advantages
Agreed that many of the top teams would still be 'top'. That is not the real question or point. These points effect getting into tournaments and where you are flighted. At this point some teams are being left out of consideration for tournaments purely because of Got Ranking points. Certainly a shortcoming.
Yes but in real soccer, a ranked 1 team does NOT endup 4 in a tournent if 4 teams. That just doesn't happen. Therefore the points dont mean much imho. Brazil or Spain ir Germany or Argentina will not finish 3 or 4 in a 4 team cup playing against I dont know : Honduras, or Swtizerland or Canada or Bolivia
The problem with the points is the variation. Our team plays 6 top ranked tournaments. We are always in the semi finals and often in finals. This is our choice to only play that many tournaments. Some teams play 15-20 tournaments per year. Some against weak teams. This can lead to a lot of points but does not mean it's a top team. If we get 15,000 points in 6 tournaments and you get 20,000 pts in 15 tournaments how does that make you a top ranked team. Not to mention all the teams with lots of points who have never played other top teams or beaten them. sjeb and Lvu are perfect examples.
The maps tournament is holding onto 250$ if you dont agree to there reschedule ....losers... at least the manahttan tornament guys gave.full refunds and what happened to there mails yesterday at 830pm saying everything was a go what happened?
Got Soccer points depends on the club. The big "Academy" Clubs do not need Got Soccer points because the they all want to get into the highest brackets of each others tournaments. For those clubs that do not have the pull of a name behind them, then the Got Soccer becomes important to get strong consideration at the big tourneys. The Gunners and Everton gets the second bracket. The first 2 levels look good in terms of strength and it will be a good weekend to test whether GS points are a good indicator or not of team strength. Based on rankings alone TR should be in the top bracket. It will be an interesting read once the Jeff Cup is over.
Why tryout fir the PDA shore version , when the Everton will still be the top team in the clubs age bracket. Makes no sense.
thanks for the advice coach.
4:54 dont understand your comment about Gunners, we are in the top bracket at Jefferson Cup? Yes after the fact it may be insteresting to compare actual performance at Jefferson Cup against Got Soccer performance and how did those with lots of points fare versus those without a lot of points.
7:06 PM, You've made my point which is that for the "Academy" Clubs, Got Soccer Points do not matter because the Gunners will get into the top rackets of tournaments regardless of their ranking. The Gunners don't chase points because they do not need to and it has no relevance to how they are ranked in tournaments. Toms River has a ton of Got Soccer points and is the second bracket. PDA can get into any tournament at a high level regardless of points. Toms River would not get a second look to be in the top few brackets if it were not for their ranking and points. Simply stated, GS Points are not relevant to "Academys but very relevant to town clubs."
FC Pennn Strikers has a ton of Got soccer point and is in the second bracket at Jeff cup. You need to be legit and they are not (FC Penn, TOMs River......)
The second bracket at Jeff cup is better than most tournaments top flights. Dont disparage these girls effort and work with snide comment about being "legit". They all work hard.
Totally agree 7:36, the initial question posed was about improving Got Soccer rankings...a tool that was developed to help things along...but there are obviously some flaws which need to be pointed out. I'd personally write the folks at Got Soccer myself.The intention is not to start calling out teams or to start up a 'legit team' list. I guess some people cannot help themselves.I for one refuse to take anything away from any coach, parent or player on any team. I enjoy the game.
Manhattan Santos 1-0 over TR Everton on Region Premier League
What a great game. Both teams looked great despite the long cold winter keeping them off the pitch. Great start to the R1PL season! Good luck to all at Jeff Cup!
I don't understand those comments about "O'Reilly Girls playing in the Gunners" or "ringers" moving from team to team to win tournaments. We're dealing with Academies - isn't that what they're supposed to do, build the best team from the pool of players to achieve victory? This line of thinking is really backwards and provincial. There's a reason for A, B and C teams. ever heard of a club named Barcelona? Check out how many teams they have at each level. You're paying that money to get training from a professional and maybe a shot at the premier team. Some people are willing to shell out $10,000 a year for soccer, that's their money. So what? I'd rather spend that kind of money and deal with professionals - and good, well behaved, classy parents unlike some of those parents my daughter's team has played against these past 5 years. You know who you are.
I will only answer because my question dealt with the way Got Soccer points are awarded. I don't think it is fair for a team to bring in 4 guest players (over a third of their field players) and earn the same amount of points as a team that does not have guest players. It effects team allowed into a tournament and where they are flighted.I'm not saying the practice of having guest players should be abolished.These are two different things and if you do not see it, you do not see it. I'm also not against academies and I agree the programs worth is ultimately determined by the purchasers. Fine by me. No, I don't think academy teams should just try and build the best teams as a first priority. They should develop the players and stick with those players. My only sticking point with academies is they sign you up but are quick to ship you out if a 'better' player comes along. It's a small beef but I'm not retreating from it.I like the fact that you bring up Barcelona. You see they have all of those teams and programs because they also invest real time and energy into players. They don't expect to players to pop by the time they are 14, 15 or even 18. That is an American mentality. How many American Coaches and programs would have shipped a young Messi off because he was too short/slow/ etc? More than you will probably admit but those of us around the game long enough know the real truth. I'm all for great soccer. I see most academies playing it and many town teams, at least many more than tend to be acknowledged on these boards, do as well. All good by me.
Manhattan santos -0 toms river everton
On the average, GS gives a decent representation of the soccer landscape. However, it is very easy to 'game' the system to earn points, and many teams do this. Is it fair for a team who hosts a tournament to invite a local highly ranked team to play for free in a mid-level tournament just to boost the point totals, then arrange the brackets so their team advances to the finals by beating some 2nd rate teams only to get slaughtered and earn a bunch of points? How does that reflect how good the team is? There's also teams that have earned a bunch of points but if you look at their record, haven't even won more than 50% of their games.Too many teams play in a bunch of tournaments and earn points by being semifinalists without ever winning a game against decent competition. Often our team has gone up against teams from other states that have over 10,000 points, but they would struggle in the 2nd or 3rd division of the league we play in.Soccer in College at least rates teams by comparing all their results (at least if they are entered), so that gives a decent indication of a team's strength.
Manhattan santos 1-0 toms river everton
Got Soccer is mostly irrelevant. Look at Toms RIver Everton, #1 in the state by playing low brackets, and haven't won in their last 6 Got Soccer listed events. What ranking system should let a team lose 6 in a row and remain #1. They are exactly what is wrong with the system because when they go up against the teams in the region that everyone knows are the true top 10, they struggle. I'll eat crow after the end on next weekend, but with such a strong second bracket the Jeff Co. the number 1 team in NJ will be lucky to go 1-2.
Well unless it was magic they must have done some winning before that. Got soccer is for fun. Get over yourself and stop bad mouthing little girls teams. We all know the academies and the ecnl teams and all the rest are all gods gifts. you keep telling us so how could we not. God give it a rest will you.
I have never once seen anyone from Toms River state on here that they were the best team anywhere. All I see is a club that has raised itself through the levels every year until they were ready to move on to the next level. So they have struggled against the best teams in the business , so what . Thats what its all about. How many other teams through the years have disappeared trying to attain higher levels. I commend the coaches for keeping at in in an age of the quick fix, and the easy way. I for one would rather play against the best and lose than to hang around the local and beat lesser teams. So get off of TR. Weve heard it all already. We just want to play soccer against the best teams ,win lose or draw.
Good weekend for nj soccer with PDA. Beating. FC.bucks. 2-0 and penn fusion 1-0 let the season begin
Yes and too bad the Gunners v FC Stars match isn't in NJ would be a great game to watch. Some good matches should be had at the PDA Girls Showcase in May.
Although the soccer was Gunners 1- Buck 0 and Gunners 2 Penn 0 nevermind the scores for this weekend. These were two games that both well played by all three teams. Just to see these young girls play the way they played shows that nevermind NJ soccer but USA soccer is continue to grow and some of these very young ladies that we see or saw this weekend maybe someday represent the bigger picture for us all. I will say that standing from behind my video camera all weekend that the Bucks and Penn players were so classy on and off the field. You can only give credit to the parents of these young ladies and their coaches. It was a pleasure to sit along side both groups and not only enjoy the games but to cheer for the kids on the field as both groups of parents did. Very classy parents and I would say a true pleasure for Youth Soccer. See you all again.
very nicely said 8:49 , you of course are correct ,but why do we keep score. Yeah, I know everybody gets a trophy blah blah blah!!
Nicely said 8:49! Very refreshing to hear about games well played and god sportsmanship from the parents and kids alike. Definitely how things should be!
I assume these were all Gunners this weekend and no O'Reilly girls, so all of the Ringers discussion can start to go away.
6:09/6:19 The come was not meant to be a criticism of TR, but it comes across that way because they are the poster child for what is wrong with Got Soccer Rankings whereby teams accumulate Got Soccer points in lower brackets of tournaments. Got Soccer does not give enough weighting to strength of competition.
Yeah I know the whole everyone gets a trophy speech lol lol but I tell you it was a very pleasant weekend with the parents from Bucks and Penn. Now I don't know how the other age groups were but I know at U14 I haven't met a parent group that I didn't like being around honestly. I mean seriously all week long we see people taking shots at young kids all week long and for what.....I will never understand that. Regardless who played on the Gunners rostered as long as they were age appropiate does it really matter........probably not but hey all I know is that my weekend was great and it had nothing to do with winning and losing because that is going to happen but the way the young ladies handled themselves is PRICELESS and that goes to the winners and losers just PRICELESS ladies and that I will BLOG about and be proud off. Believe it or not I am in the Pressbox on Sunday with guys from Penn Fusion and they were talking about their game with World Class the day before and all your heard was positive comments and great things and we got into the conversation of what parents talk about well what guys talk about and it was about the FOOD and how a great job World Class does with the FOOD. It was great lol lol....it was what youth sports should be about.......FOOD and plenty of laughter.
'Why tryout fir the PDA shore version , when the Everton will still be the top team in the clubs age bracket. Makes no sense".Because some here cannot comprehend that soccer is a money grab for theses "Academies"-especially those with three letters-and they will pay for Mia to wear that jersey even if the othernon academy team is head over heels better,cost less and has equal training. I know its a heaqd scratcher to me too
SMH @ 9:37am....The reason why one would tryout for PDA Shore is because of the choice that they choose. Instead of being stuck on the whole "THREE" letter bit why not focus on maybe the opportunities that may come for those girls that do make the team or do choose to go there. Remember its all about chooses and to me it seems that you are feeling that you have no choice and maybe you feel that you will either sucked up by this system or maybe you want to be apart of this system but just not this particular one. I don't think its about the letters on the chest of these players anyone, but more of the opportunity that may exist for one's child. Will the cost be higher.......certainly it will be. Is it worth it.....well that's all depends on how you and your family looks at it basically.
Looking to create an interesting, sarcasm- free discussion here on the topic of what are the pros and cons of playing on a 3rd or 4th PDA team. Using PDA as example because they have a 3rd (athletica) and 4th (shore) team. I will list cons first because they are obvious:1. Expense - $2500+2. Lack of a quality league to play in3. Not competitive with top 10 teams in state4. Would not qualify for any top college showcase (except PDA put them in their showcase anyway)5. Training better elsewhere - unlikely that quality coach will take in a 3rd or 4th level team?Pros:1. Can wear 3 letter game jersey2. Chance to be moved to NPL team? (Does anyone believe that?)Comments?
How much do you currently pay for your trainer, coach, league fees, referee fees, field rentals, tournament fees, etc.? How does it compare to the $2,500 mentioned above? Trying to weigh options and there is a lot to consider but just from the $ aspect curious to how the costs stack up.
FINALLY! 10:46 has correctly summed it all up! I know first hand the "promises" of PDA, the B, C, and now D teams will always be just that. But at least you get to pay the same amount of money as the A team, that evens it all out!
Oh the sarcasm is well excepted but hey let me take the bait and answer. 1. The 2500+ expense.....I have to laugh at that. When you think about that expense to lets say for giggles...."HIGH LEVEL" teams outside of the PDA's of the world. Look at the amount of money those teams spend for the amount of tournments they attend. Oh I forgot all those charges are voided and paid by the town clubs right lets do the math on that and lets get back to that. 2. Lack of quality league.....You are too funny. Name one, just one quality league. Well if you say ECNL.......WRONG AGAIN. All the leagues are simular with a fair amount of good teams and a fair amount of teams that haven't developed as fast as the others. 3. Not being competitive with the top 10 teams in the state......VERY LAUGHABLE and obvious those GOT SOCCER POINTS got your mind blurry. GOT SOCCER POINTS are just to sell folks like you that your childs team is great or your childs team is not so great.....WHATEVER. If a team has played 50 games and a team has played 10 games.....how do you even compare that or rank that. Just for giggles PDA Gunners BLUE have a total of 10 games played and they are ranked #5 in the state.......LOL LOL LOL how is that possible. Oh and the PDA GUNNERS WHITE (which is the same team PDA BLUE) is ranked #10 in the state. So you mean to tell me that you have the "SAME" team and trust me its the same team (my daughter is on it) Not for nothing but and nothing against GOT SOCCER but are we seriously talking apples to apples here. 4. So those teams would not qualify for a top college showcase.....and a high level town team would.......I THINK NOT. Nothing against Toms River because if you ask me they are one of the top teams in the country in my opinion without the GOT SOCCER POINTS. That team plays tough against anyone regardless.5. Training is better elsewhere.....Thats an opinion and no agruement there. You have to see what style or what person best fits your childs personality or skill set. PRO's.......YOU got it right it right....those 3 letters mean a lot to those girls that wear it or have wore it and wish to wear it. A chance to move to an NPL team.....once again that is your opinion and yes sarcasm. Another Pro to be wearing those "THREE LETTERS" would be the fact that I can say and be proud that my daughter plays for PDA. See I can say that and not worry about it because I am proud of "OUR" decision as a family to have her be a part of the club for now. I am proud as a parent to say that this is YOUTH SOCCER and my daughter belongs to the PDA club and feels she is in a healthy environment. I am proud to say that through these years my family have met hundreds of people and my daughter has various associates on many different teams outside of the PDA walls that she met THROUGH the PDA soccer club. Your right thats something to be proud of. Your CON: You are too ashamed of where your child is and who your child plays for and you know that that is SAD...........maybe you can stop worrying about NPL, ECNL's EDP etc and more worrying about if your child is happy then thats the REAL name of the game and you could never put a PRICETAG on that.
11:39 stated it well, but I have a simpler view. It's a free country and PDA has the right to set up new clubs, my child has the right to decide to play there, and I have the right to pay. Its a decision we make as a family and if we are happy about that decision than that is the only Pro that matters.It's also a market economy and if PDA is wrong about the Toms River area and kids' desire to wear those 3 letters than they will fail. I also suspect that PDA is not simply focusing on the U-14 age group and has good reason to believe it will be successful.
Very telling that the only happy PDA parent commenting on here has a daughter on Gunners...never hear from Pride or Athletica parents.
Wow looks like 11:37 is very defensive but 11;50 stated it well. Family preferences should be added to Pros column as an intangible.But back to the Cons column - can anyone argue with a straight face that JAGS at U14 is a quality league? It's ok if you play in it - that's certainly a family choice - but at least call a spade, a spade. None of the teams in JAGS are going to Jeff Cup anytime soon. I think what would make more sense is for PDA to reduce their fees for 3rd & 4th level teams. Typically the $2500+ price range is justified by clubs as paying for entrance fees into a couple of top tournaments and top trainers. If PDA is not providing that, it would make sense to change fees accordingly.
I heard that matchfit has started a 3rd team at U15 age out of Morris County, which will also play NPL. Is PDA playing Athletica and Shore in a NPL?
Nice article from October on GotSoccer Ranking 9 and 10 year olds, but this quote is indicative of this blog:"I am not naive enough to think that this does not happen already. We all know that youth soccer has stopped focusing on children competing against other children. We all know it’s often focused on adults competing against other adults through their children. A hyper-competitive, win-at-all costs mentality has already taken over youth soccer down to the U9 age group in many places. It is causing many talented, developmentally focused coaches to quit rather than make sure their U10 team wins all its games. "
Here's the link:http://www.socceramerica.com/article/54328/gotsoccer-insanity-ranking-9-year-olds-really.html
My take is ,if you have a to be u15 daughter that you feel is exceptional, get down to the TR Evertons open trainings this spring. There is an opportunity to make a pretty darn good team over there. A couple of good kids and they will be a complete squad. Why gamble on the unknown,when a proven commodity is right there. Waiting.
Thinkn abotu moving my daughter from another town team. How many players are TR Evertons looking to replace and how much does it cost each year? Thanks
Well tryout season begins soon. This is the year that more than a few good players leave the game forever. With the academy level clubs hording talent on 23 player rosters and coaches playing favorites and Town teams being pushed to the side as if they don't matter. I would just like to say how sad it is and I hope that most of those players listen to their hearts and find a place to play inspite of the clowns they call coaches that just manage talent. I know my daughter will miss some of her friends from the game that are going to be replaced and possibly leave the game forever. I say to them stay strong and play for yourself you are soccer player.What people don't see is that soon there won't be enough players to make 23 player rosters and it will suffer the same fate as pee wee football. Good luck to all.
You may not like it, but the Academy system and merging of clubs is very disruptive to the soccer environment. High level clubs that do not adapt will not be able to compete. TRE may be an exception because they have an established team at an older age group that isn't prepared to move, but TR as a whole recognized that that they would continue to lose kids so they signed an agreement with PDA. There is a land grab for kids, and TRE staying in place and maybe continuing to be successful is good for them, but doesn't in itself sustain a club.
Can anyone explain why Match fit is not participating in the PDA tournament in this age group?
Jeff Cup predictions for this weeekend? its tough but here are some uneducated guesses.Top flight finals between Charlotte and PDA with PDA edging out for the win.Second flight group A tough between FC Pennsylvania and United but pick FC Pennsylvania.Group B NJ StallionsGroup C CincinnatiGroup D AnandaleFinals FC Pennsylvania against NJ Stallions with FC Pennsylvania edging out the win.
I'll give you Charlotte on the one side of top flight although Santos might put up an argument. On the other side my friend, you have it all wrong. PDA will be heading up 95 before Lunch on Sunday after going 1-2-0 for the weekend. NEFC or Bethesda takes that side. Charlotte looks good for the whole thing. We'll see who nails it and congratulate on Monday. Game On! :)
If your daughter isn't "exceptional" but is looking to develop into a nice player there are a host of local town teams in Ocean/Monmouth that could be a good fit too. There are a few gems out there you just need to do your homework. I've seen the teams first hand but will not mention, lest I be accused of cheerleading. More than just TRE (who are obviously very good). Best case is to watch the team play a game. You'll know if they are being trained well. Many of thee players on those teams are the same kids that will be playing next to Academy players in school/college. Believe it!
Because matchunfit could not compete in pda it woild be embarasing
TRE has 15 girls when healthy. Need to be 18. When i said exceptional i only meant they dont just want bodies, they are looking for the right fits. Lots of girls have come to the open sessions but so far none have been right. Training sessions are always open. The girls are always friendly to anyone who comes. Call the club. come on down. :)
whats the approximate annual cost for toms river everton?
For those heading to Jeff Cup, a friendly reminder. Most of you know how bad traffic is on 95 south heading towards Richmond passed 495/95 intersection. That traffic will be worse now that the HOV lanes on 95 south are under construction and closed down. I wold like to recommend a good time to leave but lately there have not been any great times, but will say earlier tends to be better…Since I'm only 2 hours away I'm heading down at night.
4:50 I thought the score was 1-0 the last time PDA played Matchfit? Doesn't sound like gunners were that much better.
especially when you consider the MatchFit ECNL team was a newly formed team last season. I would be concerned if I were PDA
2:40 PM Do you realize how ridiculous of a comment that is commenting an a single game that you likely did not see? If you judge a team or a person on a single event, that we would mean we'd have to judge the entirety of your last year on your single comment which by itself makes you look really foolish.
The ECNL records are listed on the ECNL website, that certainly gives a more complete picture.
6:00pm Things that make ya go hhhhmmm??
This site would be better served by sharing positive information relating to youth soccer. Tryouts, tournament info, club info, positive stories about players and their achievements etc. To hear the same old same old about who's team is better or PDA sucks and cost too much is boring. I posted a video link showcasing a U14 national team player that anyone could use as a teaching tool (or reference) to show their kids. Not one comment? If you post that PDA lies to their B, C, D, E, F teams you get 2 days of gibberish. I know I know its a U14 youth soccer blog what do you expect...
The id² National Selection International Tour concluded March 10 after an 11-day trip that included four matches against Italian youth academy teams and a thorough immersion into a different culture.Three video journals are availablehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVY9Kz9nRGo&feature=youtu.beThe id² National Selection team was also exposed to former professional soccer players, including two members of the traveling party: Head of Delegation Mike Sweeney and U.S. Soccer Scout Tony Meola. Sweeney, who is a current member of the US Club Soccer Board of Directors, has a decorated soccer background, including the honor of being named to the All-Time Canada XI men’s team. He is a CONCACAF champion, Olympian and Canadian Soccer Hall of Fame inductee. Meola also enjoyed a thoroughly successful professional career. As a former U.S. goalkeeper, Meola’s soccer resume includes three FIFA World Cups and numerous MLS and collegiate records and awards. Nigel de Jong, a midfielder for Italian Serie A club AC Milan and a member of the Netherlands national team, gave a pep talk to the aspiring young professionals after the id² National Selection’s game against FC Inter Milan.
Thanks for the post.
3:59I wasn't going to post it since it's not positive. But since you commented on the lack of comments I'll give my two cents. I put the video on the big screen and showed my 3 teenage daughters. I hadn't watched the video. With out and parental input my 14yr old GK daughter said wow those goalies are awful. Followed by her sisters saying she is fast and has good moves, but the defense is slow. The goalies either stand there until the last moment or come out sliding to early. Gk daughter wonders why the the goalies avoid contact. They likened the highlight video to premier player vs d3 defense and GK. Defenders stabbing, jumping in. Zero surfing or containment. We play some top ECNL teams who are good. If this was my first view of ECNL I would be scratching my head at their development plan. She is good I'd just like to see her clips against better players. Hard to totally judge.
The girl on the video was fun to watch. Aprox. 1600.
I agree on the keepers.
What can anyone tell me about the Greater Flemington Strykers team?
"This site would be better served by sharing positive information relating to youth soccer. Tryouts, tournament info, club info, positive stories about players and their achievements etc. To hear the same old same old about who's team is better or PDA sucks and cost too much is boring. I posted a video link showcasing a U14 national team player that anyone could use as a teaching tool (or reference) to show their kids. Not one comment? If you post that PDA lies to their B, C, D, E, F teams you get 2 days of gibberish. "My Friend, It was saved to my daughters favorites. She is a young forward and she has watched it before every pre season scrimmage.It has made a big difference!..Thank you I know I know its a U14 youth soccer blog what do you expect...
5:24,I totally agree with your assessment of the goalkeeping and defending. My daughter plays both outside back and forward and her first comment was where is the defense? That said, I showed it to her as (1) a reference to the talent level of a national team player and (2) the mindset of a high level forward. Regardless of the less than stellar goalkeeping and or defending I wanted to show her this girls relentless attacking style - which you need as a forward. She was constantly attacking the defender and going to goal, which you need to do as a forward. My daughter plays for an ECNL team and you don't see many forwards like her. I have not idea if the video is of ECNL events only or maybe it is mixed with local tournament and talent. I do know that when they played in the Champions League (top 16 ECNL teams) her team won it and they scored 14 goals in 4 games. They put 3 on PDA O'Reilly to win the championship (U14) and that PDA team is good.
11:44, It has changed how my daughter now plays forward. She is a good player that can play a couple of positions (forward being one). That said she never truly understood the mindset it took to play forward at high level. It has helped a lot. Glad your daughter liked the video.
Could you post the link again? I missed it the first time.
Great video!1. That player is the real deal.....She gets it!2. The team as whole plays smart soccer.3. No one hogging the ball. Great movement without the ball. 4. They know when to deliver that precise pass to theirTeammates. 5. The forward knows when to be selfish & when to deliver that final pass for easy tap in for teammates.The answer to someone's question about how comeThere is no defense & what are the goalies doing?Simple, They are being exposed & broken down by aBetter skilled team.This video should be viewed by all girls playing competitive soccer.More teams need to play like this.
Greater Flemington Strykers is my daughters team. I like what the coach does during practice. He is very knowledgeable about soccer and transmits instructions very well. The assistant coach and the club manager are aware of what's needed and resolve things right away. There is positve energy flow when players are together. We are looking forward to have a very good season. Fair Play. Respect.Enjoy the sport parents. Let the coaches and players do what they enjoy doing while training, play soccer.See you on the fields.
Toms river gets destroyed at Jeff cup?????
NEW JERSEY SO CALLED TOP TEAMS GET DESTROYED AT JEFFERSON CUP SOUTH JERSEY BARONS LOST 4-0TOMS RIVER LOST 7-1MERCER FC LOST 6-0PDA PRIDE LOST 1-0FC COPA LOST 1-0PDA BLUE WON 2-0NJ STALLIONS WON 3-0NJ RUSH GRAY TIED 0-0
It may be a hard thing to swallow for some, but maybe the Gunners are the best team in NJ with or without their "ringers"
The Gunners had 2 very nice wins today against some very tough teams.
Sjeb loses 0-7Stallions lose 0-4NJ soccer may have a lot of GS points but that equals nothing on the field
3:18 3:47 How about instead of trying to bring down teams made up of girls trying to compete and playing their hearts out. Didn't your mother ever teach you that if you having nothing good to say, don't say it at all?
You forgot to mention that NJ clearly has one of the best teams in the region, but of course it would pain you to mention that.
No what pains me is any parent who let's there kid play 14 + tournaments and leagues a year to get points. Shoots there mouth off, gets acceptance to a big tournament and isn't competitive. Not even close. How do you ever give up 7 goals. Maybe a red card or 5 and your down a couple players but even then. Back to the drawing board. How about 6 quality tournaments next year don't worry about points and train more.
I agree wholeheartedly with chasing points. But for all of the bashing of PDA and the TRE team gloating about not joining the PDA Shore. Their top team beart two teams that some on this blog said they would never get past and the Pride competed hard but couldn't find the net. Everyone wants to bash PDA when it doesn't go well but gives no credit when it does. Yes, I am a PDA parent and yes I am very proud of how our club is competing. People are quick on this blog to bash where things are not going well, but give no credit where it is going well.
I do admit, I did not expect the Gunners to do that well as they did today. However, congratulations to the gunners, who I bet worked hard to beat two very tough teams. And I'm not a gunners parent. So stop complaining that we're not giving any credit when it's due.
pda gunners 2 bethesda0pda gunners 2 nefc 1 in the jef cup
i guess the gunners will be staying past 12 after all for those no believers
Yeah, that Gunners team are just average without the 3 O'Reilly girls. Oh sorry that was my bashing in the Fall. Give me a day or two, I'll figure out a reason to argue that today was not a good day for the Gunners.
FC COPA MILAN LOST 6-0 WHAT IS GOING ON?
Every other nj team will be coming home before 12:00 tomorrow!!
Jefferson Cup Standings:http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=32803&Gender=Girls&Age=14
Seriously 7-1 and 6-2!
gotta make a change anyone know if their is a webiste for PDA Shore coudnt find one or when there tryouts are?
ALL NJ TEAMS DID AWFUL IN JEFFEROSN CUP. THEY ARE ALL COMING BACK HOME EARLY AFTER A HORRIBLE PERFORMANCE. PDA GUNNERS ARE THE ONLY NJ TEAM STAYING FOR THE FINALS.TOMS RIVER EVERTON LOSES 6-2 TO YMS PRIDE!!! GOOD LUCK GETTING GIRLS COMING TO YOUR TRYOUTS AFTER THAT PERFORMANCE. YOU ARE NOT A TOP LEVEL TEAM!!!
11:45 you might want to check out South Jersey Academy FC too maybe another option for players in that area to consider for next year.
Tryouts for the PDA Shore will be announced by mid- March for the U9-18 girls age groups.For questions contact Lee Pollard at firstname.lastname@example.org,Lou Santa Cruz at 732-501-437 or Carl Leschinski at 732-241-3646
toms river got smoked at jeff cup!
tr gave up 13 goals in two games!
South Jersey not a good option. They got beat barley as well. Fc Copa the same.
seems like a lot of $$$$ for all those tournamanets and travel and cant be much less than the academies can it? Toms River has only won 1 of its last 14 tournament games and applaud them for getting out there and trying at these tournamants but maybe its time to take a different approach. Maybe time to stay home and spend all those $$$ on better coaching and training and train more instead of so much tournys.
its not SJEB its something else
What happened down at toms river? We played them in years past and they were a descent team with a full 18 girl roster. they struggled a bit offensively but had a good defense. did they loose that center back who was really good or did their goalie get hurt or something or did kids leave?
Why is everyone jumping on the PDA Shore bandwagon? PDAS B team Pride played in the third flight and could not score any goals. Give TR a break.
Congratulations to the Gunners for playing in the Jeff Cup Championship game.Now who won? Would like to also extend my congratulations to the wining team
CSA 99 ECNL wins u14 championship!
Congratulations to Charlotte! What was the score?
tr waa better with a 18 girl rooster but believed it would be bstter with 13. They still have star center back but if she was smart she would move on to better team. The also have star forward but she cant do it all. Other than those two the rest of girls are average. but with small rooster of average players that get no rest they cant compete.
Yea what was CSA/PDA score? Would have liked to stick around for that one.
Wow. I know who posted that. Shame, shame.
I posted it and trust me you don't know who I am, I'm "anonymous". I just want to know what the score of the CSA/PDA game is, its not posted yet to the Jeff Cup site for some reason. I also want to know how NEFC and Santos game went. Trust me there is no shame in that…
Why aren't the scores posted?
I was referring to 4:49
7-1 JK NEFC 1 Santos 0
Is it me or did all of these nj teams getting smoked have anything to do with not being in shape because of the lack of outside time. Seems like the florida and southern teams did disproportionately well as the northern teams did disproportionately bad. Were some of the teams playing their first games of the year outside? I know teams such as the gunners and the strikers play all over all of the time so it is not a problem. But the Barons,Stampede,TRE, FC Copa etc etc probably were stuck as to outside field time because of snow and cold. To be so bad can only be an anomolly to me. Just a theory.
Overall weather was poor and did make it a little more diffuclt than usual but there were a few nice weekends within the last month and a few nice days to also get outside during the week and all of these teams have been training indoors all winter and should have been getting outside at every chance and there were enough days. Even with the snow most cleared their turf fields and got out there.
The game was 3-1, and yes, it was a really intense and competitive game. Both teams looked very sharp, and it was really fun to watch. All the goals were scored in the first half.
Thanks for the scores. Well it looks like CSA is on a roll, won this thing the last 2 years. Hats off to all the players and the hard work they put in this weekend. Fun to watch - good luck this spring.
8:58 is right and some other teams from cold and snowy climates fared pretty well so not sure your excuse holds up 8:30. NEFC did well and theyre from Massachusetts, PDA cleared their turf fields and got out there, Manhattan Santos did well, Cincinnati made it to the semis, Quikstrike is from New York state and won their flight, Beadling made it to the finals and their from Pittsburgh.........
Congrats to ALL the teams that participated in Jeff Cup this weekend. Many teams don't even make it there. Good tournament to kick-start the season and get rid of cobwebs. Without seeing the games I would not dare knock a group of 14 year old girls. Keep up the good work kids. Good luck this season!
Lack of outdoor practice time is no excuse. The same can be said for the VA teams, and there were some that fared quite well. They have had hardly any time outdoors this season. What I saw was not kids that were out of shape, I saw just plain poor soccer from teams from NJ, PA, VA, and NY. Lots of kickball soccer - no real organization or attempts at possession, and from both ECNL and USYSA teams.
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