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Monday, September 9, 2013

U16B - Competition is thick, diverse and talented

What can we say? This age bracket attracts a lot of attention and several teams have very different rosters going into Fall 2014.

Better than ever.

Region 1 at this age bracket offers a lot of talent at the top of the rankings.
U16 Boys soccer is where the action is.

135 comments:

Anonymous said...

stronghold is pre-season favorite to win it all

Anonymous said...

Stronghold is the greatest. Just ask them!

Anonymous said...

Doubt if above posts are from stronghold, just the usual of someone trying to stir things up

Anonymous said...

I agree that they are all not from SSC, but to think that none of them are is naive. Stronghold does think they are at the top, just speak to them and they will tell you.

Anonymous said...

Any HS teams projected to be elite this year?

Anonymous said...

CBA is supposed to have a very good team this fall.

Anonymous said...

Gill St. Bernard should be a team that no one will want to play. Good talent, work well together.

Anonymous said...

Montclair High... Loads of SDFC and TSF players of all ages.

Anonymous said...

That makes sense 1:08, good luck to Montclair HS.

Anonymous said...

Montclair HS boys are doing so far this season 3-0

Anonymous said...

West Orange vs Montclair this Tuesday. Both are 4-0 I believe. Should be an interesting game. Both sides carry SDFC, TSF, PDA players....

Anonymous said...

What is the big deal about TSF and PDA non academy players? They are fine but nothing special.

Anonymous said...

They're good club players and when you put them all together, the results are interesting.

Anonymous said...

Depends if the coach plays them. Some HS coaches play Sr's and Jr's regardless of skill level. Some HS coaches play the big kids, some look for speed and dont care about footwork. Most HS coaches dont know where to play them and put defenders at forward. Comical.

Anonymous said...

True. HS soccer is very different from club. HS Coaches try to make up for lack of skill with physical play. I've seen good players get injured playing HS soccer.

Anonymous said...

Montclair High school boys now 5-0

Anonymous said...

Go Montclair HS!!!!

Anonymous said...

Regarding post above asking about tsf "non-academy" players. tsf isn't an academy - even if they use the term - so all their players are non-academy.

Anonymous said...

No kidding it says TSF and PDA non academy players.

Anonymous said...

They have great players but the coach is also excellent. He's had winning teams for about 20 yrs.

Anonymous said...

PDA is an official academy so they have academy players and non-academy players. TSF just pretends they're an official academy but don't let them fool you.

Anonymous said...

Who has great players? TSF or PDA Messi? IF they do have great players then they have coaching problems because neither team does anything well as a team.

Anonymous said...

I meant that Montclair HS has some good players but the Montclair HS coach is an excellent coach. He gets the best out of his players.

Anonymous said...

No such thing as a good HS coach.

Anonymous said...

You don't know him because if you did , you would know he's an excellent coach.

Anonymous said...

Really annoying. The stupid SDFC parents on here now talking about Montclair HS team. It's the same kids for the most part and neither team can win a championship in either league.

Anonymous said...

Why are you so annoyed and angry?...winning to me is the continuation of developing a player at this age, not just winning a tournament. I get it High School is not developmental, but SDFC is. Sometimes we take for granted the little things in life....let your child enjoy the moment wether winning or loosing, they both have learning curves.

Anonymous said...

The Montclair HS team isn't only SDFC. I recognize names from 5 different clubs on the roster.

Anonymous said...

Just let the boys enjoy playing and be happy for them.

Anonymous said...

11:13 "no such thing as a good hs coach".
What a very narrow minded thing to say, especially when some top club coaches happen to be high school coaches as well....St Benedict's coach has done PDA and now Cedar Stars, Seton Hall Prep coach does Copa teams, Delbarton coach has done FCNJ teams, Gill coach is the coaching director of Stronghold SSC, Pingry ast coaches , who run the show there, have done PDA, Mo- Beard coaches run Jersey United, Princeton Day School coach is director of Matchfit, MKA coaches involved at TSF, Franklin coach does PDA teams, Bernards coach does FC Berna teams, .....the list can go on and on........

Anonymous said...

Well said, case close.

Anonymous said...

Yes you are right, of the thousands of High Schools there are 10 quality coaches. Moron.

Anonymous said...

SSC has many playing on one team also, I don't recall seeing a SSC post about their great HS team. Why does SDFC feel the need to constantly be on this site pounding their chest? I just don't get it.

Anonymous said...

Why don't you make one? I'm sure you'll get lots of support. Nobody's trying to say that one high school team is better than the other.

Anonymous said...

SDFC

Some Day firstplace comes

Anonymous said...

Only moron is the one who uses it as a negative comment.

Anonymous said...

Seems like Montclair HS vs Gill would be an SDFC V SSC reunion match.

Anonymous said...

Reunion of what? Reunion of a regular season game? When have they played in a championship game?

Anonymous said...

It is a shame that one parent on SDFC scars all the others. SDFC is a very good team, very good. SDFC does not need the self promotion yet one person cant stop, and now they have taken the over the top posts to their sons HS team. Stay classy SDFC, this isnt _ _ _!

Anonymous said...

i believe SDFC and SSC have played in a few finals....state cup final at least twice both NJ and US Club, as well as some tournament finals.

Anonymous said...

Yes, love those U12 years.

Anonymous said...

SSC and SDFC still are the best two teams in the state and top 10 in the region.

Anonymous said...

Marlboro is right up there with them. A very strong team.

Anonymous said...

Not sure, but maybe. I still think SSC or SDFC would win the majority vs Marlboro but Marlboro would be a good opponent. I also dont know the changes that these teams have made, maybe they added, maybe they lost a player or two.

Anonymous said...

We'll see. Some people are so over confident. (SSC)

Anonymous said...

Of course we will see. We will all see after the games are played of course. Does not change the fact that the better rosters are SSC and SDFC.

Anonymous said...

Actually SSC doubled at U 14 , SDFC doubled at U 13, those U 12 years you love are NJX who doubled U12 and U 11.

Anonymous said...

I agree, both SDFC and SSC still have the most talented non academy rosters in this age group. But that does not guarantee automatic success.

Anonymous said...

Definitely no guarantee of success. Marlboro and Sounders are quality clubs as well.

Anonymous said...

Sounders???? Did I miss 11 new players going there.

Anonymous said...

Yes you did miss something. Players left and new players came in. Sounders are a different team now and i think u will be surprised at what you will now see.

Anonymous said...

Who did the Sounders get (not names but from where). SSC and from what I have heard SDFC and Marlboro added. I guess that is just the way at U16.

Anonymous said...

There are always good players around looking for teams. Anyone who thinks they know every player in this age group is wrong.

Anonymous said...

Of course no one knows everyone. If anyone knows of any player that is still looking and is a great player there is room on some top teams still available I am sure. Didnt tournaments raise the max player number to 22 now? I dont agree with it, why make 6-7 kids angry every game.

Anonymous said...

It's not only the kids, it's also the parents. You can end up paying a lot of money to see your child very sad because he never plays in the games.

Anonymous said...

If you don't play, move. Simple

Anonymous said...

Problem is some games he plays some games he does not. There is no consistency with it. Maybe this year will be different, but new players have joined so maybe it wont.

Anonymous said...

If you're not a starter and the team is 22+ players, you probably won't see much playing time but clubs wants your money so they'll tell you to stay.

Anonymous said...

12:08, that is not a true statement. What if you are player # 12-16? You will play a lot, wont you? If you are 18-22, what are you doing?

Anonymous said...

Maybe, but my son was on a team where the coach only played the starters all the time and subs only when the starter was injured or absent. He was a win at all costs coach and I thought his methods were awful.

Anonymous said...

How is a player supposed to know what # he is on the roster?

Anonymous said...

You know where you fall in the pecking order unless u are new. How don't u know

Anonymous said...

You know if a player is #16 or #18?
Wow, you are an expert. Is that # set in stone?

Anonymous said...

If you question it, then you are in the wrong place (if you want to play)

If you are there for development, different story.

Anonymous said...

Game time is also important for development.

Anonymous said...

I agree that playing in games is also important in developing a good player. I don't understand why some people insist that only practice matters. What kind of message is a player getting who never plays in games and how could that be helping his development? He might as well just quit now.

Anonymous said...

When you walk into a team, by the 5 practice/first scrimmage you should know where your son is on the pecking order. Come on, by this age you should know your kid's talent and where he fits best. I know we all think our little Johnny is the next best thing, but you should not take little Johnny to a team where most of the players are better than him. He may be good enough to make that team, but may not be good enough to crack the top 14 and if that is the case, have a nice time riding the bench. As parents we should do our research first, find out how good the team is, how many players they have and etc...

Anonymous said...

How can you research such a thing. For example, I think we would all agree that to be on the SSC roster you must be a very good player. With that as a fact, you now have 18 very good players! How do they all get substantial play time? They cant. Good team, good program, good coaching, not playing. What do you do?

Anonymous said...

There are really only a few rosters in NJ that "in order to play" you better be REAL GOOD. Other then SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, SJEB, Marlton and maybe Morris you should get plenty of play time on any other team if you have some skill.

Anonymous said...

8:14 go to gotsoccer.com and check the team profile, see how they have done is the last year, see how many players they have. Drive by one of their practices and see what type of talent you see out there, talk a parent whose kid is on the team while you are there, maybe even talk directly to the coach.

Anonymous said...

If a player is on a team where he's not getting a lot of playing time he should keep working hard for the remainder of the season. If his playing time doesn't improve by the end, then he should leave, He made the team fair and square. Nobody can predict the future.

Anonymous said...

HS season ending for some real soon. Time to gear up for some real soccer and not the send it BS I have seen.

Anonymous said...

It's incredible how poor the quality of high school soccer is. Long ball, selfish players with way too many touches who then get dispossessed, tons of dangerous tackles, etc etc. Can wait for it to be over and for real soccer to start.

Anonymous said...

HS coaches are to blame. Listen to the players they know who should play where and how

Anonymous said...

What is the first/earliest tournament for U16 teams to go to this year?

Anonymous said...

There's an EDP College Showcase Nov 22-23.

Anonymous said...

Is that the earliest tournament that is available for these boys?

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is coming up around the same time too.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is too far for my team, but thanks.

Anonymous said...

The Maps fall challenge is Nov. 15-16 at Fort Dix.

Anonymous said...

Why do some NJ teams go to Bethesda, MD for a tournament? There are plenty of quality tournaments here.

Anonymous said...

On that date? No. Now you know

Anonymous said...

5:43 Plenty of tournaments here? At what level does your team play?

Anonymous said...

Isn't Bethesda an ECNL club?

Anonymous said...

This is boys soccer.

Anonymous said...

A team is going to a tournament in Bethesda because they want to. It doesn't make your team any better.

Anonymous said...

In order to play" you better be REAL GOOD. Other then SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, SJEB, Marlton and maybe Morris you should get plenty of play time on any other team if you have some skill.
October 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM

The idiot who wrote this should get off his high horse. You obviously think your sons team is almighty. I guarantee you they will lose games against teams like IB, DOL, NJF and possibly others. The best talent is not just in those teams.

Anonymous said...

October 24 9:25 I totally agree with your comment!!!

Anonymous said...

9:25
Yes, you have a point, but if you think that Ironbound, Den of Lions or NJF would win more than 5% of the matches played against the other teams mentioned then you are not being honest with yourself. Could they win a game, of course, but most would be 2-4 goal differentials going to the power teams. Over time each has added a player or two each season and they have only become stronger. Wish it wasn't that way but it is.

Anonymous said...

"Wish it wasn't that way"
I think you're being dishonest with yourself.

Anonymous said...

I am 11:28, how am i being dishonest?

Anonymous said...

Do EDP schedules/flights go to coaches first? Anyone know when they normally get posted?

Anonymous said...

Edp Central group 1 is by far the most difficult and challenging, versus the south and north confrences.

Anonymous said...

Who is in that group?

Anonymous said...

FC EUROPA X-TREME CRUNCH 98/99
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 98 BOYS
MARLBORO SA WARRIORS BLUE
MARLTON SC JPS PREMIER 98
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 98/99 BLACK SDFC RANGERS
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '98
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 98
STRONGHOLD SC FALCONS YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER PREMIER '98

Anonymous said...

FC EUROPA X-TREME CRUNCH 98/99
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 98 BOYS
MARLBORO SA WARRIORS BLUE
MARLTON SC JPS PREMIER 98
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 98/99 BLACK
SDFC RANGERS
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '98
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 98
STRONGHOLD SC FALCONS
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER PREMIER '98

Anonymous said...

How is that any harder than the other top flights of EDP? They are all very difficult. A team (Howell) who won their EDP flight 2 was moved to a MAPS division. Teams have improved.

Anonymous said...

If Howell was moved to Maps, that must have been the coach's decision.
Maybe he lost a lot of good players.

Anonymous said...

Speaking in general, not just about Howell here, why would any coach drop their team that dramatically? If a team WINS their division, they should not be allowed to drop. Who cares what their reason is, it is not fair to the other teams.

Anonymous said...

Why isn't it fair to the other teams?

Anonymous said...

If an EDP level team is playing in MAPS, which is at a lower level, it wouldn't be fair competition. The idea is to have teams play equal teams in terms of quality.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they felt that Howell was just a Maps level team. In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter? They are flighted so low that it becomes more just for fun anyway.

Anonymous said...

Lol, as opposed to the higher level flights that aren't playing just for fun, they are playing for huge amounts of money and contracts, or to reach the Champions League. get a grip. Its all for fun - they are 15 years old. The only place it isn't for fun is at the real academy teams. And none of the teams on this board are that type of team.

Anonymous said...

So sick of the academy BS. Yes the academy teams have players that are very good, but not the entire roster is that great. There are MANY non academy players that could play on these academy teams but choose not too. If you feel that isn't so, you are flat out wrong. If the academy teams feel so strongly about themselves, why not play a Stronghold or Marlboro or SDFC. Might the academy team win, yes of course but I think you might be very surprised at some of the non academy talent out there.

Anonymous said...

The same goes for your "amazing" SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, Marlton. Other players would fit in fine on those teams. Players on these teams aren't the "chosen ones"
so get real. Soccer is a simple game, it's not that difficult for a good coach to get good results. If he knows where to play his players to get the most out of them and the team has been together for many years, you will see the results.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, 11:27 I suppose you have anger issues. Who are you arguing with? Yourself!!!!! No one said your little guy couldn't play on the top teams. Unless he tried out and didnt make it :)

Anonymous said...

EDP winter showcase is the first big tournament out of the box. Flights should be out soon.

Anonymous said...

Flights and schedules are out for EDP CUP/MSSL Showcase

Anonymous said...

EDP cup is not the first big event, I would say Bethesda is.

Anonymous said...

EDP is a top tournament, you dont have to go to Bethesda to get exposure. As EDP relates to NJ teams you have SDFC/SSC/Marlboro/SJEB in the top flight. That is 50% of the teams in the top flight alone. 2nd flight has Marlton.
3rd has Holmdel and Jersey Knights
4th has Jersey Boca, Howell and TSF. Not sure why Howell keeps getting the ugly stepchild placements.

Anonymous said...

They are the same weekend. I'm sure it'll be warmer in Bethesda.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean when you say 50% of teams in the top flight? You named 4 teams.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda and EDP are not on the same weekend. There are 8 teams in the top flight, 4 from NJ, equaling 50%.

Anonymous said...

Hope that the division on u16b 2nddiv. central changes a lot. Better teams in the maps elite north as far as head to head competition and rankings. Ironbound and Hudson should not be there and Den of Lions and Stallions should replace these 2 teams. Not sure what the director is looking at...

Anonymous said...

Agreed, it almost looks like some teams asked to be placed in lower flights.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is this weekend, going to be cold. Glad now my sons team is not going. Good luck to the NJ teams but what I looked at wont be easy for them.

Marlboro placed in the top flight and drew the #1 team in the country.

SJEB highly placed and no easy games.

STA highly placed, but a bit of an easier road.

Marlton placed a bit too low and should win their group

Anonymous said...

Agreed that Marlton is too low. They should be higher and I expect will show that after the weekend.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the schedulers know Howell better then you all do. 1 game and they are out of the EDP cup.

Anonymous said...

To all u Howell haters ... Tournament won!

Anonymous said...

Howell, that cant be you can it? No way you are bragging about beating those teams are you? I understand you played and won but those are barely travel teams.

Anonymous said...

I watched the final waiting for the next game. It was a good competitive final. Good soccer, slightly too small field, and ref called it a little too soft. Was good game to watch if you like high school age soccer. Not sure why the derogatory remarks about the teams - they all had some good physical players. This board is so stuck back in the "when they were 12 years old" mentality.

Anonymous said...

Good and competitive compared to what? Let's start with this, if your son is U16 and is playing at the Howell tournament then we know the teams are neither good nor competitive. Howell tournament is a step above rec. Howell I am sure didnt want to be there.

Anonymous said...

Looks like jersey teams did poorly at Bethesda.. Marlboro and sjeb came in last in their groups

Anonymous said...

3:06 thanks for the update. Did you look at the NJ teams closely. Lets start at the top.

Marlboro, played 3 games, scored 3 goals, gave up 3 goals. Played 3 state champions one of which is the #1 team in the country.

SJEB, playing in a very high flight didnt seem to do great but lets be honest, those are top National teams.

STA, went 1-1-1 in the next flight scoring 3 goals, giving up only 5.

Marlton, 1 win, 2 ties, came in 2nd in their group. This was too a very tough group of teams.

So, it is very easy to dismiss the NJ teams but you should look at the facts.

Anonymous said...

The facts is the NJ state champions could not compete with other state champions, last place in their group is the fact. Stop making excuses for the team that represents NJ as state champion.

Anonymous said...

Wow what a dunce you are. They played 3 games, best the flight winner and lost tbe other two by 1 goal. If you think that us a bad weekend then go ahead. Did your team go? If they did then they were looking up at them. If you didn't go to the top tournament then you have other issues. I hope you are not from my sons team because if do you should know that is what we aspire to do

Anonymous said...

Please do tell us your sons team

Anonymous said...

Sounds like marlboro Man is posting again.
Welcome back

Anonymous said...

I am 9:13, not from Marlboro and I stand by my statement. SDFC, SSC and Marlboro get crushed on here when they lose, but what people fail to realize is the level of competition is far greater then any other team in NJ is playing. People are either clueless or outright evil in what they are saying, someone has to speak the truth.

Anonymous said...

And it begins again. I can tell you this first hand as my son's team has scrimmaged some of the top ranked teams recently. The top 5 are in fact ranked that way for a reason, they are good.

Anonymous said...

None can touch MF. Now that MF will be playing them all will see the truth of soccer balance. Until then, Happy Thanksgiving

Anonymous said...

BS alert! Nobody I know at MF would be silly enough to post something like that. Happy Thanksgiving!

BTW, watched the first half of Marlboro against Arlington. Thought Marlboro had the better of the play although they were down 2-1 at halftime. Soccer...

Anonymous said...

Why would you watch the first half?

Anonymous said...

Ummm, I had time to kill.

Anonymous said...

No PDA College Showcase this year.