2:51 here's another nugget of truth. SDFC forfit in one of the State Cups to pursue the EDP cup. They would have certenly took that cup.
What the hell is going on here. Kids, go out and play and stop spreading rumors and lies.
So many lies. If that makes you feel better about yourself, good for you. Guest players at a National Championship being allowed is a joke. Maybe every team brought them, who knows, but it should not be allowed.I know SSC has already stated that one player came back, 2 were promoted and one is playing with them next year so it isnt a cut on them but a poor reflection of US Club policy.
Dont drag SDFC into this battle, we are enjoying our summer.
Did I just read that Marlboro had zero wins at the Nationals??? What happened and how did SSC go undefeated? Did they play the same division and teams??
Yea I read that also. I guess the cream always rises to the top. Congrats on a national cup and go NJ!!!
I am not a Marlboro cheerleader either but I am Italian. Let's keep the inappropriate comments out of this blog.
Stronghold sure does spend a lot of time on this blog. You really did take over for Marlton but to your credit you have taken it to new heights. Lying and pretending will only get you so far. On a bright note you did realize that the team you HAD was not good enough and you added new players. Hey if you cant train em recruit em.
If you people would like to get back to a real, factual conversation, I believe that SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, Marlton and maybe STA and SJEB will be great watches next year. Be proud that there are so many quality teams in NJ. Add in the NY teams and why travel anywhere.
"if you can't train them , recruit them" what an uniformed and ridiculous post. Every single player there has been trained by SSC for minimum two full years some since u 9. Even your so called guests , ringers, mercenaries, etc are players who started with falcons and have returned. Put us down all you want, it only strengthens our resolve.
Boy you people are NUTS
What most fail to realize is the fundamental difference between state and us club rosters . The NJ state roster is limited and frozen , while the us club allows movement and flexibility. Both serve different purposes well.
A guest player is from outside your club, not your team. Moving players within the club ranks is allowed even in the rhode island regional via a club pass issued by the state office. Every player SSC used started their soccer at our club . They're back, watch out!
It's been about a year since I checked this forum and nothing has changed. People are still fighting over rankings. Congrats to Marlboro for their double state cup win and congrats to SSC on wining a national championship and representing NJ!!
Regardless of the guesting issue, this division now goes by the motto on any given Sunday. Nationals were SSC's Sunday. Period.
Please understand that Stronghold is again the team that others will compare too. No NU or NY team will beat this Stronghold team in the upcoming year. Yes, that strong.
Any chance this forum could be changed to the SSC vs Marlboro forum and a new forum started that covers 99.99% of the rest of the U15 world? This is getting tedious beyond belief. What a pair of tools.
To SSC's point above, although absurd, it may not be that far off. Take a look at the top NJ teams (current rankings)MarlboroSDFCSJEBSTAMarltonHolmdelSSCGalacticosPrincetonTSFBocaForceHowellAfter Marlton #4, no one can even come close to beating Stronghold, so what Stronghold is saying is that they only have 4 possible competitive games in NJ to play.
Blah blah blah........ Any given Sunday is correct for U15 boys. All the teams are good and the competition is tight all around. It's great that we live in a area where soccer is so popular. With that being said the plain and simple truth is that championships are in this order. 1. State2. Region3. NationalWho ever advances the furthest is the most successful team of the year. My son is not on a team that has one any of the championships this year. However the year is coming to an end and we hope to next year. Until then congratulations to SSC on being the top NJ team. There is nothing else to say or argue...
I agree with 8:49. Be proud that a NJ team won the national championship! There is nothing to argue here.
The real National Championship is being played this week in Maryland and no NJ team U15 even qualified. The US Club National Championship is ok but since they allow floating rosters it isnt a true "team" championship. Sorry SSC and Marlboro, it just is not. It also isnt a true state championship as you can alter your rosters during the competition. Sorry Marlboro.If you want to use the logic that what ever team goes the furthest in a strict roster sense with no juggling or adding of players then that would have to go to Marlboro in NJ. NJYS state champions and USYS Regional semi finalist. If that diminishes what SSC did, sorry but that is how it goes. If SSC is what they say they are in the future they can win the correct state title, move on to regionals and the real National Championship tournament.
9:15 you are an idiot and your thoughts are incorrect. Both championships are pound for pound equal. It's for the club to decide what route they want to take and that's it. It's obvious you son is on either Marlboro or SSC. Sorry that your son could not have one of the titles. LMAO still about your post
For the record Marlboro is the best U15 town team in NJ. It's amazing that they have put a solid program that can challenge the select clubs. I tip my hat to them.
9:26 if being 100% correct makes me an idiot then you must really be a moron. My son plays for a team that has played both over the past two seasons, not for either. Maybe what you are trying to say is that they are both accomplishments, and if so just say it. They are, but in my opinion and the opinion of every reputable soccer mind the USYS championship format far out weighs the US Club format.
Are they really a town team? Yes they play under the Marlboro name but where do the kids live? How is it run? Is it inexpensive compared to SDFC or SSC? Isnt Marlton a town team also?
It's Simple both Jersey teams were at the same nationals under the same rules. The higher ranked team could not beat the lower ranked team..Marlboro left winless.. SSC beat hota 2-1 in finals.. Until next year SSC has the bragging rights as National champions
There are no town teams at this level, no town in NJ can produce 15 - 18 players to compete at this level. The teams with the town label draw from outside their town as well, although maybe not as widespread as others.
915 you make sense til you state "correct" state championship as if playing in us club competition is the wrong way to go. There are two state cups , regionals, and nationals, and while I agree the one in MD is more prestigious , they are both accomplishments. No one should smear or tarnish what SSC did in NC. It was not easy and NJ soccer wins out in the long run.
Also stating you are 100% correct is a bit inflated as well.
Not inflated at all, 9:15 was correct in what they wrote.
Marlboro is a town team, the players come from many different towns. Is it harder for a named town team to attract players then it is for a program (SSC, SDFC, SJEB) to attract players? Most likely. Regardless, they have done a very good job, as has Marlton which is in the same boat. Take a look at the top teams, who is next that uses a town name? No one that is any good anymore.
Go NJ !!!!!!
The real National Championship???? Let's be real here. Both Cup's represent two organizations with two different methodologies. The are competitors to each other and both claim to be #1. The US Club was started to promote a more fluid roster to foster the highest playing level possible "just like the European leagues". The US Youth Soccer Cup believes in a locked roster. Both are great cups and I don't beleive one is better than the other. It's up to the club to join one or both of the organizations. The Academy's choose US Club do they can retool and build the best team possible for their regions.
Well said 10:52
Yes 10:52 you and the rest of SSC and NJ can rest on that belief as the real teams are playing in one hour.
10:56 it's 10:52 here. I'm not from SSC and my son has never played for him. I'm a South Jersey parent and have a clear head as my son was not fortunate enough to have played in any of the cups. Why come on here and spew hatred because two NJ teams did well this year. Shane on you. Any State, regional or National titles are prestigious and something all of the boys will remember if they are lucky to get one of the titles.Please grow up and keep this positive because I can assure you that boys from all over are reading these post and learning how immature adults can be.
Sorry if you feel that facts = hate. They are both accomplishments, just one is better. Simple. Hell, SSC got there on a rainout, imagine that. That is credible? I dont care that they both met in the finals, one should not have been there. Actually, neither as to have one weekend where ANYONE can pay to be in a tournament and use your "any given sunday" ticket to a national finals is plain stupid.
So 1119 anyone or anything that doesn't agree with your opinion is just plain stupid. Us club is plain stupid because they can't control the elements, any team that enters a competition that you don't approve is just plain stupid. Wonder how stupid everything would be if the tables turned and it was your son's team that won it. Bet you'd sing a different tune then.
No worries there, if my sons team won it, and believe me they never will.....I would still know that they did very well but didnt win the top National Championship. Being realistic is a good thing.
Yeah just ANYONE can win a national title on any given Sunday , so why don't you do it 11:19, instead of coming on here and putting teams and accomplishments down.
Actually they could. Technically SSC or anyone else could have had ZERO wins all year, applied to the regional tournament, and move onto Nationals. Is that a championship format? Again, dont look at the team but look at the format. If you are too blind to see the errors in that, well that is your problem. Dont take it personally just understand it is flawed. Now SSC has been on here night and day and they have an opportunity to prove me wrong. Win the real state cup next year, win at regionals and go to the real nationals. Good luck.
Everything in life has its flaws, except for you mr perfect
Mr pefect you must be that Marlboro parent everyone hates..
It's just a matter of time or days until got soccer updates the points, state, regional and national rankings. Marlboro you better take screen shots as this is the last time you will be on top.
Can someone please defeat Marlboro quickly? It stirring to listen to them all day long about who they are...ugh
Mr Perfect here. If you could read you would know that I am not even from NJ. Regarding 3:11, I suppose you cant read either. I can and all I see on here is SSC/Stronghold talking about themselves.
Marlboro Man and Mr. Perfect : there is no doubt that had Marlboro won the tournament, then you would proclaim yourselves national champs and the us club format would be just fine. You certainly were fine with it when it got you a second state cup. But now a rival wins the national cup, and now this format is not valid . Well, what were you down there for? A vacation ? Or just maybe you were also trying to compete for a national title?
If you are not from NJ, then you need to get a life, why even be on this site?
10:56 Many teams use the us club cards including USDA academy teams who would wipe up your real teams playing in the real national championship . That is the purpose of us club cards. To allow clubs to field the best team possible and not be locked into the archaic idea of frozen rosters. No other country in the world has these ridiculous carding restrictions. Rosters on youth teams worldwide change constantly allowing for player mobility and discovering new talent at any given time. Shouldn't we do what works worldwide in soccer ?
Again you cant read. This is not just a NJ Blog. NY and Pa also.NJ people sure are dumb.
I cant speak for Marlboro Man, but do you really think someone from a team would write what he wrote? Lets get real people, there are a lot of fake posts here.
Not everyone is an Einstein like you mr perfect,, wasn't he one of us dummies from nj?
Such a condescending person mr perfect, tell us what happened in your perfect life that makes you such a tool.
People that have an agenda and cant listen to logic have no room in my life. MP
Here is my two cents.. I beleive that this is all noncence and that SDFC is going to be the clear tip team next season. They have picked up a couple of quality players and going to be very tough to beat. They are also attending many tournaments around the nation this summer and next year.
So SSC and SDFC picked up top players? Where do they find these top players? SSC was fairly clear on their new additions. SDFC how about you?
SDFC didnt need to pick up any new players. Already better then SSC or anyone else.
We have one Red Bull player that is returning to SDFC and commitments from three additional quality players. At this stage of the game we our building depth on our team that will ensure quality and success. It's simple and upfront.
Rummor has it that SDFC is also negotiating with two Marlboro players. I think it's a smart move on their part.
5:51 answers 5:50's question. Top players come from other top teams. It's kinda funny but truest thing out there. I would not be surprised one bit to see the top Marlbro players join other clubs to get more exposure and college coach looks.
SDFC is doing just fine. No need to bring us into this mudslinging festival between SSC and Marlboro.WE are going about our business and will see you all on the pitch very shortly.
Oh yea what did SDFC win this season that's worth mentioning?? That's right a lot of second and third place finishes?
Experience. Regional and National level playing experience.Experience is what all clubs should strive to provide for their players.The wins and losses are part of process.
So if SDFC did not win any titles why are they considered one of the best teams? I don't see it and we all know that Got Soccer is inaccurate. Sounds like the parents are good promoters and make a lot of hype for their team.
Bravo 7:55!! Perfectly said about SDFC and their self promoting BS... Win something and stop trying to cause fights between other teams. We know who you are and what you are trying to do.
Well put 7:55. Got soccer is definitely inaccurate. This was very clearly demonstrated at the US Club Nationals where the #1 ranked team in NJ, Marlboro, played nasty and could not buy a win and the # 8 team in Nj ,SSC, took home the cup. SSC Strong!
So SDFC has 4 new players and trying to get two more. To bring on six new players they sure must have had some bad players
If you look closely at the last few tournaments that SDFC was in, they have been in the highest bracket and have been fairly competitive. If you lose 1-0 or 2-1 to a team ranked in the top five in the country, it is much more admirable than a win in a much lower bracket.
SDFC , you put yourself right into the middle of the mudslinging with your self promoting. Too late to proclaim innocence and to be left alone.
You know I have to agree with 2:06 that SDFC has done a lot of self promoting and have had no real results. OK you guys play in the NPL because several other teams declined the position because of the travel. So you got a shot and kinda hung in so you got invited back. That doesn't make you the best or a top team by no means. It makes you a good team that has potential is all.
Lets see what we have here. SSC, strong team, bringing back some quality players, won Nationals.Marlboro, won US Club SC, and NJYS SC, Semi finalist at RegionalsSDFC, played very well in Region 1 league, SC semis, consistently playing nationally ranked teams.Why cant we just applaud these 3 teams for a job well done. Good job you three, I hope you keep it up.
Well said 8 26 let's give credit to all these fine teams.
SSC falcons moved up significantly in rankings and deservedly so. Beat number 4 and 13 ranked teams in the country and tied 11. So much for it being a weak field of teams. They now 3 in NJ , 12 in region , 21 nationally. Their recent form is much higher than that . Hope it continues . Good luck to all NJ teams.
Nice Progress SSC.
Rumor has it that two Marlboro players have reached out to SSC and will be training in. I think it's a smart move on their part.
Did anyone really think they should have been ranked with the Sounders? #3 is a fair ranking based on last seasons record, I would suspect that they will be battling it out with SDFC once again for #1. No disrespect to Marlboro, but if they are adding "key" players you may have to do the same.
Marlboro's primary focus should be retaining the players that they have. It appears a few of their top players are out looking at different options for next year.
11:25 You have said that before and it is obvious you are just starting trouble. Stop the BS.
Im just reading this. I would be very smart for the top Marlboro parents to try and get their boys on the top Select Club teams like TSF, SDFC and SSC. Select clubs offer way more exposure that strong town teams and the select clubs focus is to get their kids college money. Not to win state championships but to qualify to play region and national championship tournaments for player college exposure. It would be nice for anyone to be state champions but remember the state cups are stepping stones to play in the real tournaments where the college coaxes are at.
Great honest post 11:51. Most of the select clubs and Academy clubs have already sent multiple boys internationally to play in tournaments. Marlboro does not have that exposure or experience and if their boys are good enough to make the select teams the time to move is right now! Don't get stuck on a strong town team that does not know the big picture and can not offer the next level to your kids.
SDFC and SSC, you keep paying to play overseas. Anyone can put a team together and do that, you dont even have to be good. If I am correct, Marlboro has qualified to play in Region one and just competed in Nationals. Marlboro and every other highly ranked team plays in the same tournaments as SDFC and SSC (not TSF as they dont qualify). Not sure why SDFC and SSC want more players based on the amount the allege to be bringing in. Sounds to me like you are trying to break up your competition.
My son does not play for any of the teams mentioned above, and I cant speak for all but I can tell you that we play in the same tournaments and our coaches help with the college process as well. To say that only a couple do, is plain ignorant. With that being said, I have been through this process before and YOU need to make the contacts with the coaches, rely on no one else but YOU. Not your coach, not your club.
Well said 12:20 and I have too been through this process with my older children. You and you alone have to get your child inform of the colleges that fit for your children. However, our coaches did play a major part in getting our children in front of the right colleges. They have many connections and the experience. Look at the kids that play for PDA/Pingry, SSC/Gill SB, Delbarton and CBA. They all have HS coaches that are involved in helping the players get into college. Hence the reason why parents fight to get their kinds in those schools and the associated clubs. This is not a hidden secret but the path informed and experienced parents take for their children. Its about how big of a network you can expose your kids to in order to increase their odds.Don't be fooled by local self proclaimed soccer coaches that are worried about their wallets and how much they can make off of un informed parents.
I second that!!! There are so many self proclaimed coaches out there that are only in it for the money and personal achievement. Look at the old NJX program, Marlboro, SDFC, STA, Marlton, etc.... They are really really great club teams with absolutely now proven record on getting their boys into colleges on a regular annual basis. Open your eyes and do what is best for your sons and get them surrounded with people that have gotten dozens and dozens of boys into the schools of their choice.
1:02 Are you saying that the clubs you mentioned have a track record of getting players into college or they dont?
I did not write the comment but 1:06 the private schools and associated clubs do have a proven record. The clubs mentioned in the later email have self proclaimed soccer coaches
I too agree with 1:14
Now you idiots are arguing over college placements. If you are a top rated team in the country, you will play in top rated tournaments. If you are at top rated tournaments college coaches will be there. SDFC, SSC, Marlboro are all ranked in the top 20 nationally. You do the math. They will all see a lot of each other. They will also see SJEB, STA and Marlton at the same.
While top level tournaments are important for college coaches to get a look a top talent, they are NY no means the end all . Summer ID camps at college campuses have replaced the tournaments. A coach can see a prospect over an extended weekend. He can see the player in both game and training situations, as well as seeing how they act off field in dorm, dining hall, among peers , etc. This is far more beneficial to a coach than the hit or miss aspects often associated with showcase tournaments. The tournaments are valuable in how a player handles pressures of time , space and opponent as well ad psychological pressure in high level matches. The most important aspects in college selection process is that 99 % of the players have to market themselves. Contrary to popular belief the coaches for the most part don't come knocking and calling for the players. Only the top tier 1% blue chip players can afford that luxury. Cast a wide net in your college search, keep at least semi regular contact with coaches of your top 6-12 schools and market yourself. Learn how to tactfully pat yourself on the back, because truth of the matter is not many coaches will do it for you. If you depend on that, you may end up disappointed .
Very well said.
Does anyone know anything about the EDP Champions League Cup being played this weekend down at Tuckahoe?
921Got to hand it to you. That may be one of the best posts I've ever read on here. Great advice.
Finally people are talking about college and real information.
Great post at 9:21
Bottom line with soccer is if you are looking to okay in college you have to spend more money on I'd camps to get noticed. Now not only are the local training companies fleecing you for 10 years but the college coaches have joined right in.
True, it's a great gig for them, instead of traveling to tournaments over and over, they can go to a select few prestigious tournaments, but spend most of the summer making money while they recruit at ID camps. Formula for money= put ID after your camps name, hire a couple of college ast coachesfor the week and rake it in.
7/25@1:42major DI college coaches will pay far more attention to the USDA games, regionals, and nationals, and less to where EDP teams play. No disrespect to these teams, that's just the way it is. That's why so many parents have drank the Kool Aid and are sold on the academy system.I do agree with you in that you'd stand a better chance at the major tournaments ( Disney Showcase, Dallas Cup, Surf Cup etc, as opposed to local MSSL college showcases).
7:26 sorry but I have been through this. ID camps are the singular best way. Period
That's your opinion, that's not fact. There are many ways to get recruited by a college coach.
Of course there are many ways but only one best way
The best way is the one that ends up working specifically for your kid. Different strokes for different folks.
What teams are going to the Disney college tournament in Dec besides SDFC? Seams like a great venue with great teams.
IDK? How about the yesterday's news State Champs Marlboro?
11:28 you answered your own question from 11:25. Very obvious since no one has posted a thing on here in quite some time. You can deny it all you want but it is obvious to all that SDFC has at least one problem parent/player. I would think that SSC/Marlboro/SDFC could all get into almost any tournament that they want to at this time. If SDFC is going then they chose to, nothing more nothing less.
That's just really funny that someone would answer their own post if true. Why is there so much bad blood between SDFC and Marlboro? I don't see the point.
I dont believe there is. It seems that one person has an agenda and non one else cares. When do they ever play each other? Not often. Is there a connecting piece between the two?
I think is because Marlboro beat SDFC in the final (controlled most of the game) of this years state cup and finaly proved that they were worthy of the title.
Really who cares about a Marlboro / SDFC feud anyway? Are they even going to rank in the top five next season? It seams both teams are losing key players and will have to get new blood to stay up at the top.
7:28. Agree who cares about the fake feud but you keep telling lies. SDFC is just fine and I am sure Marlboro is also. Shut up already
Other teams are building also. Galacticos are one of them. State cup finalist and just got stronger.
Let son move to a better team, less game time or stay on present time and play almost entire game ?One team top ten, other top twenty.
10:10 do what's best for your son. Ask him toakebas the choice and support him in his decision.
10:10 - The better the competition the better your kid gets. That includes practices (which is where he spends more time).
Depends on what he wants out of it. To be honest, top 20 really means little as even some top 10 teams at this point really are not that good. If he is looking to get into college and be noticed he would want to take into consideration the visibility that will be made available (or not). Playing with better players will 100% make him better. On the flip side, if he does not want to play in college then play on a lower level team and be the man, have fun. Question for you. Why do you feel that he will play less on a better team? Maybe he will surprise you.
I would move son to 2nd team. Kids love to play in games. Games are exciting and you really get to test your skills Besides, not playing in games may damages confidence and self-esteem in a child.
That is the question, do you REALLY get to test your skills or do you lose the opportunity to really test yourself? Look at it this way, if he is on a team of 18 and the coach really only plays 16, make sure he is talent wise at least 14. Anything below that and you might be making too big of a leap.
So the team he plays for is very good but tends not to do many tournaments but plays is a high end league.(thus not many Got Soccer points) The second team is top 5. He good enough to start but comes in as the new guy. The coach made it clear that he would get play time and if he was not happy with the amount, he would play him in another postion also. He is confused. He does hope to play in college.
Not sure of the confusion. If the coach said he would play, and it is a step up then what is the question.
Your son cannot get better practicing with kids who aren't stronger than he is and will definitely not get better if he doesn't play in games. No game time means he plays against same kids over and over leaving little room to develop. Any coach that says otherwise is lying or just looking to collect a check.
Thanks for comments.
My son is a captain and starter on one of the best teams currently in NJ. He was a walk on player and worked his way to the top. Hard work and determination on the players part is very important. It took a couple of years but he was determined to be the caption and play at the highest level.Best of luck to your son.
What is a walk on player?
A player that contacted the club and asked to practice with the team to see if he would fit. No tryouts or offers from the coaching staff to join the team. Hence a walk on player.
Wow, he must really be good. To be able to just go to a practice and show that he belongs. Must be great.
Thanks he's just a hard working boy and worked his way up!
My son was also one of those kids, he didn't make the A team at first but worked hard kept going and is know a captain on one of the best teams in new jersey, he wants to play in college and does not know if to stay on his team or move to an academy to help his chances of being scouted. Any opinions?
Lots of captains out there.
I don't see the point in the academy's unless you have aspirations to try an go pro. No matter what you have been told it is not the best route but only one of many. My kids have played at both levels and my no academy son has received better offers from colleges.
Go pro.....HaDont forget your competition is the rest of the world.
Never say never! There's an MLS player from my town.
MLS, ok. IF you can live on 35k, go for it.
"College ID Camps have replaced tournaments." You are obviously clueless. Most coaches give a speech day one and head out on recruiting trips. Better option for a program this past weekend: A. Head to nationals and see several high level recruits on every field? B. Stay at "my camp" and watch kids who could shell out the coin play? College camps give you a preview of a campus... That is all.
I see you never had a child play in college. No problem, you can be ssen in different ways, and each option has it's flaws.
Question to a prior post. With SDFC and SSC in the area, why did you bring your son to the Galacticos? Not saying anything is wrong with them, just want to know what your thought process was.
12:29 - wow - and you are calling someone clueless? Pick the more attractive option: 1) stay home for 3 days and watch 300 players come to my place and perform for 3 days in ALL facets of the sport - not just play in a game - and find out if they can speak and write as well - oh - and make multiple thousands of dollars at the same time because they PAY for the campOR2) Pay travel and living expenses to go to some god forsaken place and watch games for 2 days (and by the way it is hard to watch multiple games at the same time) hoping I might all the players I need right there.Hmmmm - that is a tough choice.Sarcasm filter off - Anyway - 7:47 poster is correct- there are lots of ways and lots of things to be considered. Just going to national tournaments is somewhat narrow perspective.....or naïve.
Did I just hear right? Marlboro just list their very talented center back and awesome goalie? WTH? Where are they going?
They are going to Marlton
Continuous lies on here. Nothing but lies. Not sure why people find it necessary to post things about SSC, Marlboro, and SDFC that are completely false. Someone has an agenda.
Why would they go to Marlton? Has Marlton lost a couple of players or just adding depth to their already strong bench. What is the other team going to do for a goalie? That's a pretty big loss at this age.
I have a question. Why is it that this age group has the nastiest postings compared to all the others? It's not even close. Seems like there are a bunch of very good teams at this age so why all the snarky, angry posts?
There is one idiot who just throws false information out there just to see what happens. Think about it, nothing against Marlton, but why would a Marlboro player make that move?locationplay timebetter teamcheaperHow would any of those be marked a yes? It is just a stupid remark made by an even dumber person.
Better team in state cups, edp not so much. Marlboro vs Marlton is always one of the best games in this age group if not the best matchup!
Yes, they are. Both teams playing similar style of soccer.
please...no one was talking about marlboro or marlton last year or year before. very good teams now but not necessarily over the last 3 + years
Actually they were both top ten..... Even then. Not sure what 3 years Ago means. 3 years ago NJX was a team. 3 years ago Hudson was good. 3 years ago Ironbound was good. 3 years ago was a lifetime ago....... And yes Marlton, Marlboro, SSC, SDFC, are still thriving. That says it all
While Marlboro and Marlton is a great matchup, in my opinion it falls far short of SDFC v SSC especially over the last three years.
Those 4 Teams are far the best in the state and I would say all are top ten in the tristate are and maybe in the region
I wouldnt keep Holmdel out of this picture, have done a great job of getting back to the top.
Are you talking about region 1? Those teams are NOT the top teams in the region. Be a little realistic while self gloating.
2:31, do you have a child that plays? If you dont consider those teams part of the top teams in Region 1 then why not? I dont believe that anyone said they were the best, did they? If your son is not on one of these teams chances are you would never have played the top teams so where do you get your opinion from? SDFC plays nationally.
3:00 I do have a kid playing soccer at this age level. SDFC would be your best bet at performing well against Region 1 competition. Marlboro has done well winning tournaments the past season. The other two teams are not ranked in the top 10 Regionally. There may be others besides you with some knowledge on what is going on at this age group. Why would you assume my sons team does not play top level teams?
Since rankings are tied to how many tournaments you enter, I don't understand why so many people get carried away with rankings. A top ten team can be competitive with a top 30 team that doesn't enter a lot of tournaments and doesn't collect points.
No top 30 team would compete with a too 5 team. If your son played on a top team you would know how good SSC is and better yet will be
good for you. go for it!
SSC will be #1 in the world someday. Those other teams aren't even ranked!
Yeah right!!! DOOMSDAY.
Rankings are flawed, yes, but they do mean something. You cant gain points without wins and you cant get in the top flights without points. So those of you without points, keep saying how they mean nothing and keep playing in the 3rd and 4th flights of tournaments.
There are plenty of out of state tournaments that aren't as competitive as in state ones but you get thousands of pts. for winning. It's such a game. If parents are willing to pay thousands of dollars for this , their son's team will move up in rankings. You don't even need to win. You get pts. for coming in 4th in a group of about 10 teams. Then your highly ranked NJ team goes to Dallas or Disney and gets destroyed by Mexican teams that aren,t ranked.
Please show us a history of out of state tournaments that arent competitive but get thousands of points for winning.
Look for yourself at Got soccer tournaments. There are many.
If you have little points then you can earn points at a lesser tournament but the top teams can not.
12:57 Really interested to find out about the tournaments you are talking about. Personally don't know of any and the Got soccer Tournaments are not like what you are implying. It is time now for the individual talent of the boys to come through and being on a good team playing high level games/tournaments is beneficial.
12:57 and 12:03 (same person), show your brilliance and give us an example. It will work if you are not highly ranked but once you get highly ranked you have to play teams as good or better to earn points. I have seen very good teams play in mid level tournaments, win the championship and get ZERO points. That is factual unlike your statement.
For those bashing SSC they have been the most consistent team since u-11 In these age group and now they are national champions.. I see lots of sdfc parents patting themselves in the back but no titles to show for..Marlboro deserves credit they won both state cups and did well at regionals but came home with zero wins at nationals.SSC is the best team in this age group..
Yet SSC cant beat Marlboro. Just saying.
Marlboro beat SSC once in 5 years. SSC has good track record vs Marlboro I believe they knock them out of state cup two years in row in the last three years.
I do believe that SSC is the better of the two but SSC you cant have it both ways. You cant continually come on here telling people that the past doesn't matter and that you are the team of the future AND not go by this years results. Again, I believe you are better then Marlboro but my facts have it that they beat you and tied you and you have not beaten them in recent events. Why recent? Because teams change every year and they have to be taken that way. Hell, from what you said on this blog your team changed during this year right? You brought 5 guest players to Nationals right? Again, your words.
well said 4:32, well said.
Correction SSC posted 1 returned from Rec bull, and 1 rejoined team from world class.. Not 5 guest players
Marlboro was scared of SSC at nationals they defended with 10 in the box and only played the counter attack with 1 attacker
No SSC. You said Red bull, WC and you brought others from your other SSC teams. Those are guests you said you had. You SSC posters should get your stories straight.
SSC has the best results this year. National champions
I know this is late but reading these comments are hilarious, where did the rumor of the two Marlboro players leaving for Marlton come from...HAHAHA Hilarious rumor
Reality is they are going to NJSA team
Time now for SSC to get asphyxiated by the actual National Champions. If you don't know who they are, do some research and spend some $ and go play them.
SSC club players are not guest players. SSC always moves players around from their 3 teams
Ok SSC. U can swing it any way u want. U won a tournament U r good. Keep tooting ur own horn. SDFC will still win and u know it. If u were secure u wouldn't have to brag.
stronghold guested kids, those kids are retuning back to academy. I'm not saying the tournament is easy but its very easy to get in to comparing it to npl finals.
btw njsa is a very bad academy team. only reason why they are still in the academy league is because of money and tab ramos
The SSC kids are returning to Red Bulls? Since when! So much false information on here.
Enough about the top teams, SDFC, Marlboro, SSC will all be competitive again. Lets talk about the next tier and did they do anything to make a move on those three. SJEB, Marlton, Holmdel, STA, or anyone else make additions that will help? These teams are right there and one player may tip the scale.
I know this May be a stupid question but recently watching the mls all star game they should do that for youth players, I know odp is basically the but somethig cheaper and for only a game or two vs other states teams. If that were to happen which it probably won't were would the players come from Marlboro, SSC, sdfc and Marlton ???
Sorry, do what?
Make an all-star team
Who would be on the selection committee? Not a bad idea.
Yeah no favoritism at all.
odp is a waste of time
So why do SSC players tryout.
If there was an Allstar team for New Jersey the players would come from SSC , sdfc Marlboro and maybe 1 or 2 from Marlton. Who would be on te selection commite is a good question?
The best "teams" was not the question. The best players.
1:37 seems to understand that best players is what matters right now, not only your kid being on a good team. Reality will hit soon. College recruiting will get serious next season.
For the most part, almost all of the players on SSC, Marlboro, SDFC, Marlton, SJEB will all be able to play in college.
The reason these are the same teams spoken about time after time after time is what? Training? Recruiting? Ability?
All of the above.
Consistency with winning in general and I would say player/coach development too. The good coaches know how to build a team rather than the socially inept ones who find themselves constantly rebuilding.
what are you saying 2:06? Your coach needs to be social with the parents?
Not talking about the parents. A good coach will motivate and grow the passion for game. A bad one will often make the player seek that trait elsewhere regardless of what the parents think. I think SSC Marlboro and Marlton do a great job in this respect and it translates onto the field.
Dont you think that many other coaches "grow" their players passion for the game also? Maybe it doesn't show because they dont train properly.
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