PDA who won nationals last year in Colorado is a completely different team who play in the club level
Completely different, agreed. Yet that PDA team has players on it that really aren't that good. Put the PDA and Marlboro posts together and you know who is writing them.
Huh? Clarify old cryptic one.
Good job DSA speed at FCNJ!!!
What is FCNJ? Is that a college?
DSA Speed? Yes congratulations on beating the worst possible teams that could be assembled in any tournament.
Is that shorthand for SSC?
To all of you SSC haters, you wont want to play SSC next year. Key additions made!
Will the additions be in attendance at the Pocono Tournament?
Otto is chasing those Gotsocccer points
Agreed, no reason to post a name but really Stronghold, the Pocono tournament? Maybe (if the above post is accurate) they are trying to implement their new players in time for Nationals that they backed into.
I see the old academy vs top club team debate stirring again. Clearly academy teams have an advantage in getting quality players and I would agree that an academy team would be favored to win the match vs a top club team for the most part. I guess the real question is, what is the actual gap? Would the matches be competitive, 1 goal games or would they be blowouts? What % would the academy teams win?
Here we go again. Once again a few club team parents flex their verbal muscles since their sons team has now won a NJ State Cup. You really believe your sons club team is on par with the academies- REALLY. You seem to forget that over 100 players from each of the 99 & 98 age group have left the club ranks to play academy ball. Thats over 200 quality players if you count both age groups that are now not playing U15B club ball ( RB, NY Got, NY Club, PDA, NJSA04, & MF ). I'm not saying these club teams aren't decent but there's a huge difference in how these teams prepare & play. If you actually watch both club and academy games you would know that .Who's really drinking the Kool-Aid here.
11:15, I dont see anyone flexing their muscles with the exception of you and your academy teams. What I read was that the academy teams would be favored to win. Did I miss something? Relax and enjoy your sons games.
Are you seriously saying that the 200 players who left are all very good soccer players? You need to get a grip and understand that there are many club players that are just as good if not better than many academy players. Go to a college ID camp and you will soon learn your lesson.
12:43 you said the magic words. "Go to an ID Camp" and you will see. No one is dismissing the positives of playing for an academy team but college coaches will find the best players for their programs. If you are just looking to say that you play for an academy team go to Match Fit as they are now begging for players.
Anyone know how EDP works? Will 1st division teams that didnt do well get moved to 2nd division?
Got to love this time of year at this age group. No player movement because next season is so far away. Nice and calm.
SSC wins first game 2-0.
Is the competition that poor?
It's better than I expected and I don't think this was their national team.
Marlboro Vs SSC rematch at nationals
Why is SSC in nationals?
SSC ties second game in a very good bracket. Need to win or they won't go to finals.
Am I the only one that doesn't care?
Why all the SSC updates
SSC won regionals and earned the right to go to nationals
sorry...how did i miss this...ssc was terrible this spring...they're at nationals? c'mon
How was SSC terrible? Get real
You're right. Not terrible. But not great. How'd they do in EDP, NJ CUP, and top tournaments (FC Delco, EDP Cup) etc. etc?
The US Club Regional Cup is like any other competition. Any team that can cut a check can enter and if you place well you can go to National Cup. That is how SSC got into the US Club National Cup. The format for entrance is not as strict as the USYS National Cup Series.
Shame they didn't earn it.
4 local teams in nationals. Be proud. HOTA, Brentwood, Marlboro and SSC. Good luck to all
I am still not convinced that SSC belongs there. Marlboro has earned their place in the finals. What am I missing here?
SSC played very well this weekend bur did not dominate like I expected. Hopefully they will reload and represent NJ well.
SSC participated in the Regional tournament. Winners advance to Nationals, SSC "earned" the right to represent NJ. Good luck.
BWG is the real team to watch in this region. Finals today.
Was it the spring version of SSC or the new version of SSC playing over the weekend?
SSC paid their way into the Regional tournament. Did not a spot based in performance. Marlboro will prove they belong there. SSC's 2 new additions are returning players that left last year for Red Bulls and were not offered a spot back this fall.
11:28 is a post meant to pose as a Marlboro post, but no one from anywhere other then Stronghold would know the 2nd part. Stop playing games.
SSC qualified through the mid-atlantic regional. Final was cancelled due to thunder storms so both teams were offered to go to finals. This is US club's practice as you can not reschedule finals when you have teams that are not local with travel plans. This has happened before in this tournament as well as the NPL finals.
True, no way a team from NYE could play a team from Northern NJ easily. Its not like that happens EVERY DAY.
HOTA would have wiped up SSC. SSC was lucky it rained.
Sounds like you are bit jealous for SSC.. And you sound scared of SSC
How do you jump to that conclusion
SSC, do you really think you would have beaten HOTA? Could you, of course you had a fighters chance but if a storm cancelled the game and you didnt have to play the game against HOTA to go to Nationals then you were in fact lucky.
An honest evaluation of SSC is that their defense is playing well but their forwards seem to be off. They allow too many teams to believe they can win against them that shouldn't.
Interesting post above. I do not believe it to be true but that is their opinion. Truth be known, we lost a few players that are top notch and yes it hurt. Coming back will put us in a better position to regain our form. SSC is a top program and and the Falcons are a top team. They may not win every tournament but will compete well in every match. Isn't that what we all want? Of the thousands of boys playing in the NY/NJ region SSC has some of the best as do the top 5 or so teams in NY/NJ. That says a lot.
If I am not mistaken, SSC is currently ranked #8 in NJ. Let's stop wasting time on this blog focusing on SSC. Who cares about SSC besides of course the parents. In all reality, had it not been for inclement weather, we all know what the outcome would have been. So please stop rationalizing and just be thankful that lady luck is on your side.
Do you really think that they are only the 8th best team in NJ? If you do, take your meds. There isnt a team in NJ that SSC cant beat, that is the truth. I hope that SSC does well and at the same time I hope my sons team beats SSC making the win sweeter.
When is the last time that SSC beat SDFC or Marlboro? It hasn't happened much nor will it anytime soon. I have seen how they play against less than mediocre teams. If beating SSC is considered a sweet win, you may want to reevaluate where your son plays next spring.
I dont know the last time SSC beat SDFC or Marlboro but I will tell you that those two teams are the #1 and #2 ranked teams. So if you are even saying they are competitive with them I think that says a lot about SSC doesnt it. SSC will reload and bring back players that left them last year and again they will be the team to beat. The Nationals that everyone is talking about on here is US Club, and US club allows you to bring guest players. SSC will bring their guests and show everyone what they should expect to see next year. My opinion is that they will be the best team in NJ once again.
Change of subject. Who can discuss SSC anymore :).Look at the top teams in NJ, the top currently are listed as MarlboroSDFCMarltonSJEBSTASSCafter that, what a dropoff it is. Do any of the teams listed after that put a scare into anyone? How did this happen?
Not really. Most are too inconsistent and have very little depth.
Not an SSC supporter, but it is unfair to say they backed in. They won a tough group and weather cancelled the final. Also unfair to automatically assume they would have lost to Hota. In other age groups, both finalists were invited to finals anyway, so Hota result would nt have mattered anyway. Great that they in same group with Marlboro, so that game will tell a lot.
What heepens to the Red Bull Academy 99 team? Their is no U15 age groug in the academy?Rumor is they are starting an RDS 99 team? Any insights?
Just a shift in Academy organization. Last year Academy, this year Development Academy.
SSC you should have confidence in your current squad and not be bringing guest players to US Club Nationals chasing after a result. Let the current squad gain the experience instead of bringing guest players to take minutes from rostered players that were committed the entire season. Focus on providing the current squad with this experience and development opportunity.
How do you know SSC is doing that
Here you go. Here is the Post from 8:27 am this morning:Anonymous said...The Nationals that everyone is talking about on here is US Club, and US club allows you to bring guest players. SSC will bring their guests and show everyone what they should expect to see next year. My opinion is that they will be the best team in NJ once again.July 16, 2014 at 8:27 AM
And your point. SSC will win or lose with who they have
The point being made is that SSC should bring the players that have been carded to the team for the entire season and not add additional guest players just to chase a result.
US Club Nationals - Day 1SSC Wins 2-0Marlboro loses 4-1
SSC how did you do.
SSC All stars and Marlboro tie.
competitive soccer being played at u15b level 3rd week of july? not buying it. dream on ssc
SSC wins 2-0Marlboro losses 3-0
SSC v NY Hota Thunder in the finals
to set record straight....SSC has no guest players at US club nationals in NC...every player carded on SSC ....and competition is great...Hota and Brentwood look especially strong...and SSC v Marlboro was a great match by both teams.
Why should they bring players from past spring squad? If these are the players they plan to go fwd with, then all the power to them. Based on results posted on us club national cup, they 'll be very strong once again. No goals allowed in three tough group games is impressive!
Hey 6:15: So someone posts that they bring guest players and you assume it's gospel? Fact is only one redbull player went to NC, and he has returned to team full time.
Won't be ranked # 8 for long, so get your bashing in while you can....
So much for the idiots who said SSC didn't deserve to be there. Please give us your theory on how SSC " backed" into the final.
Not bad for the # 8 ranked team in NJ. Shows you how skewed rankings can be.
SSC is ranked #8 for the team that they had, the results of this past weekend are from the team that they brought to this tournament. Please dont confuse the two. Are they guest players or players that will be on the team for the 2014/2015 season? If they are on the team in the future it certainly will help them. The US Club National Cup is not like the USYS National Championship that doesnt allow roster changes. Every team that went to Greensboro could have brought with them 5 guests. Sorry, that is not a National Championship format.
Competition in NC has been great, but a couple of points. I am pretty sure every team had guest players. I am very sure that the toughest game we have had so far was vs Marlboro and we play HOTA today. NJ/NY showing well at Nationals, lets leave it at that.
The US Club National Cup is the NIT of youth soccer..all of the secondary teams are invited..big deal! Former Red Bulls player = Cut!..good luck SSC and I hope that you do win but please put things in perspective.. In NJ, SDFC & Marlboro wil always be the best two teams.
12:04, your statements make no sense. If you think that the US Club National Cup invites secondary teams yet Marlboro was invited. BUT in your words they will always be in the top two?????????????? What are you saying?
Here are the facts. Stronghold DID bring guests, possible new players for next year, what ever you want to call them. We do not need to hide the fact that we did this, it is well within the rules. Congrats boys! NJ and beyond, LOOK OUT.
Congrats to SSC on your National Championship title. Any comments beyond that are nothing but sheer jealousy and petty sniping at them. NO, I'm not an SSC parent and the BOYS deserve the respect they earned.
To be clear the poster above is the only person we need to listen too. He knows all the facts
Marlboro, SDFC & the rest of NJ..we are back! SSC strong!
Not to dampen your mood but you still have not beaten Marlboro
I believe Marlboro has only beaten SSC once in the last 5 years. Any given Sunday team not jersey best. It confirms at nationals they left as losers...they play ugly defensive soccer.. If you can call that soccer..
SSC best team in NJ.....U-11 state cup finalist, spring qtr finalistU-12 state cup finalist, spring qtr finalistU-13 state cup finalist, spring finalist U-14 State champion, spring champion, regional semifinal U-15 state cup qtr finalist, Us club finalist U-15 regional championU-15 national champion
SSC, teams change every year so what was done in the past has no bearing on rankings or strength of teams today. As you well know, a few players can make the difference in a match (see new players brought to Nationals). What is ugly defense? I see SSC didnt score against Marlboro in their two matches this year.
7/21 12:04Are you saying Hota and Brentwood from NY, Marlboro and SSC from NJ , and the two teams from Cali are second rate? Who is first rate then? And how do you know about SSC Red Bull players?FYI: SSC Falcons had three players go to Red Bull, one stayed, one not asked back, another told the academy director months ago that he would play high school soccer this fall and he was asked to come back after HS season to be reevaluated ( that is what you call getting cut ) BTW the competition in NC was first rate. Just ask the Marlboro coach who told our SSC coaches that the California team that beat them on day one, was the best team they ever faced. Marlboro won their group in Rhode Island regional and advanced, so they are a great team. In US Club super group, they ran into some great competition and went 0 wins 2 losses , 1 tie, so based on that how second rate could the competition be?
10:17While we would have loved to beat Marlboro, the objective at a tournament is to advance and we did. (2 wins, 1 tie 4GF : 0GA in group play). Marlboro v SSC always a tough game , and down in NC it was no different. Warriors had great goalkeeping, solid organized defense and a dangerous counter attack. Falcons had more of the possession and countless corner kicks, but could not find the back of the net in a game that was tense and tight for all eighty minutes. We look fwd respectfully to many more such matches with them.
Fact, Marlboro will need to upgrade to stay with the Falcons. As it is presently the Falcons are a bit better but not by much, both are quality teams. I would expect SSC, SDFC, Marlboro, Marlton and SJEB to all be very competitive with one another in the upcoming season. SSC is however the team to gauge your team against.
7/14@3:37" Hota would have wiped up SSC. SSC was lucky it rained"How fitting that the regional final at PDA which was called due to severe thunderstorm, was in fact played as the national US club final in Greensboro NC. NY Hota Thunder was a great team, but SSC Falcons pulled out a well deserved 2-1 victory!How does it taste eating your words now?
BTW comment above not directed at Hota but the 7/14 3:37 poster.
10:22- yes teams change every year, and what SSC had down at US Club nationals, is the core of what they will be moving forward with. I would expect even a couple more additions to put them at or near the top of this age group in NJ.
The simple fact is that it has taken the loud italian with the flowing hair on the marlboro sideline almost 7 years to teach that team how to pack it in and blast the ball out to their striker and then run marlboro run. Nothing pretty to watch there at all.
The simple fact is you are just trying to stir up trouble. Doubt that was posted by SSC. I am an SSC parent and while I can't speak for all, most of us are very respectful of all our quality NJ opponents ( Marlboro, SDFC, etc). Fact is the intense competition makes us all better teams. The Marlboro coaching staff has done a very good job with their team.
If you have played Marlboro you would know that they used to send the ball to the striker but rarely do now. They move the ball well and have more then a few skilled ball handlers. You would know that the team they played with this year had some new players, just like SSC is doing. Times change. Do I think SSC is better now, yes, but who knows what changes SDFC will make, or Marlton or Marlboro for that matter. We will see.
" SSC , do you really think you could have beat Hota ?"" SSC, lucky it rained"" had it not been for inclement weather, we all know what the outcome would have been"" you didn't have to play Hota to get to nationals,you were in fact lucky"I am not even from SSC, but boy did I enjoy them getting the last laugh on all the posts above!
Why cant you people be happy. Be happy for SSC. Be happy that NJ had 2 representatives at Nationals. Be happy that SDFC was right on their heels. Be happy that a team ranked 7 in the state won nationals. The 6 in front, be happy.
Gotta love all the posts, but none of you are from SSC. Just a lot of fans I guess.
It doesn't matter what anyone posted then or now, as they got the last laugh by winning the national tournament you all said they didn,'t deserve to be in. Then they win it and all of a sudden, it's not a good tournament, well then why did you post about it to begin with?HE WHO LAUGHS LAST, LAUGHS BEST!!!
Not a good tournament? Must have come from someone sitting at home and not at it. All very good teams. SSC prevailed.
So 12:54, where would you rank them after their performance in NC ?
12:04- SDFC and Marlboro will always be the top teams in NJ?Very bold statement. Care to make a bet who will be at U 18?
Not sure where I would rank them because I dont know who is on the team and who isnt. You also said they may add more so if that is the case then some that were there cant be on the list of 18.
Congrats to Stronghold, well done. You certainly did not wait long to rebuild.
I'm a marlboro fan, debate me.
Marlboro fan, debate you bout what?you were better at time of state cup, SSC better this past weekend, as for the future, only time will tell.
1254, why do you harp on SSC ranked 7 in state, do you really think there are six teams better in this age group?rankings fluctuate as teams loose points when calendar passes a date where they don't repeat in winning state cup , tournament, etc. In time the good teams get most points back as SDFC has proven recently.Marlboro , the current number one team in NJ, didn't win a game down there, so the field of teams must've been strong. Have to give kudos to SSC for an impressive tournament win which should boost them in rankings anyway.
Marlboro man debate this: at the same tournament in the same flight SSC goes 2wins 0losses 1tie no goals allowed, Marlboro goes 0wins 2losses 1tie 7 goals conceded .Nothing to debate
Lots of crow and humble pie to eat for many anti SSC posters. Was poetic justice that SSC and Hota Thunder met in the final.
Hey 1204 let's see your team win the NIT of youth soccer. Maybe you'll find it's not as easy as you think.
2:48, SSC won the tournament and they deserve all the credit in the world. You, however are wrong as they played different teams in 2 of their 3 matches. SSC still better but they were not in the same flight.
SSC did not rebuild..they developed players. Winning nationals is the result...
Is it true that Stronghold brought new players? If so, why would a "championship" of anything allow this? Play with the team that got you there. If this is your team of the future, then I suppose all looks bright, but a championship tournament should be about the roster that you started with. IMO
SSC had to beat NPL semi finalist Brentwood aguilas who took BW gotchee to over time in the NPL semis. Gotchee beat Red bull academy in the regionals and claimed the NPL title a few weeks later..
So what you are saying is that the toughest game SSC had was against Marlboro? I find that hard to believe but I guess that is good for NJ.
323 all six teams were grouped together and top two went into the final. SSC finished second to Hota on goal dif, Marlboro finished fifth. Check the standings they were all in same group.
3:46, I was not there but it is easy to see that they did NOT play the same teams, so they were not grouped together. They took the top 2 teams overall regardless of which group of 3 they were placed in.
3:26. :FYI we did play with the team that got us there, same players we had at PDA for the regionals.
323We played each other to a 0:0 draw in a great game, you lost to Hota 0:3 , we beat them 2:1. Only other team you played was a good Sacramento team that beat you 4:1. Although we did not play them, Brentwood beat them and we beat Brentwood, so on that one you can only compare scores and draw own conclusions . I would agree with you that format and scheduling was not the greatest. Although SSC - Marlboro was a great game, we could have played it here many times. Would have been better playing other teams instead of each other.
I am the renown marlboro man, I speak here as a delegate for the warriors blue. While there performance at Nationals was below par, no one expected them to qualify in the first place. The team has grown, and will only advance further next year. For future SSC v Marlboro match ups you bet I'm putting my money on the Warriors
Wonder what would happen if the Marlboro Man and Crystal Ball were merged? Hmm.
424 so what's your point? Are you implying that SSC had an easier schedule or route to the final?
Marlboro Man: if no one expected warriors to even qualify getting there, then what does that say for SSC winning it all? Warriors have NJ bragging rights for now as it is truly impressive wining both state cups. But as SSC can tell you, it's difficult to stay there. Watch out and look over your shoulder.....SSC and SDFC are both gunning for you!
Actually Bang! Bang!
323. Is it true SSC took two players from their c team ( arsenal ) to the regionals and nationals? Did they play?
Here is the plain and simple facts! Marlboro's double state cup wins are in the past. The biggest news of the year for U15B soccer in NJ is that a NJ team won the National US Club tournament. Keep your comments current and let's all have fun.
Would you have won the Nationals if you played with the team you had on your roster when the US Club state level tournament took place? If the answer is anything but yes then the entire tournament is tainted.
SSC did take 2 arsenal players to regional and Nationals and they played at regionals and nationals..SSC played every player in the finals vs HOTA
Good job SSC, well done. People say that NJ soccer is within the top ranks of the country and you winning and Marlboro being there helps that case. HOTA and Brentwood from NY also at Nationals, that is great for the tri-state area. With teams like SDFC right on their heels the 2015 season will be great. Dont let the guest player posts bother you, they were allowed to come and you won. The other teams could have done the same!
Way to go SSC!!! It's great to hear a NJ team won the national Championship!
Looks like SSC is the clear top U15b team now! Congrats in representing NJ...
How so I get my win to guest or tryout for SSC? Is the roster filled?
You can lookup any team on Got Soccer for team contact info.
Looks like Marlboro couldn't stay on top for even a couple of months. Let's say they had a once in a lifetime lucky season.
10:43, you could say that or you could also say that they are still the #1 ranked team in NJ and all of this BS is because they lost to the #6 and #9 ranked teams in the country. They did not lose to SSC. Perhaps Marlboro could have brought guests to Nationals also, would that have changed anything? What would that say to the current player? When Stronghold beats Marlboro then you can chirp.
Marlboro you are being a sore loser.nationals proved you could not beat SSC a second time..looking at the standings you needed to win to stay alive in the tournament..instead you allowed your bitter rival to send you home..
Krystal ball foresees that you'll be hearing lots of chirping in the future.
What makes you think that Marlboro is writing these? Are you aware of how easy it is to act as if you are someone else on this forum? I am sure there are some but be realistic. My congrats go out to both teams as they have shown NJ can play soccer. I also would add in SDFC, SJEB and yes Marlton as the next 3 that can win it all next year.
Let's set the record straight on all this guest player nonsense. I was there and there were four players who were not on Falcon spring roster. Straight off there were two lads from SSC Arsenal who are being looked at for upcoming squad ( good development to promote up from your own ranks ). One midfielder from Red Bull, who had been a Falcon since U9 and is now returning to the team. ( He was there for first two games only, having to leave for Beijing Cup in China). Lastly, a player who left World Class and signed with the Falcons. ( he is transferring to Gill St Bernards where 7 of the Falcons play for former Falcon Coach, so it is likely he will stay with Falcons for years to come). BTW we were missing two regular starters who committed to the Beijing Cup earlier and we're not "crazy" enough to come down for only two games like our center mid did.
Hey 1051 would nt you chirp if you beat hota a top ranked team? This is just the first note you becoming old news
11:45 that is very interesting since yesterday you posted that you had NO guest players.
Comments that say "teams got lucky" is what really ticks me off on this forum, every single team deserves credit for every season, i can almost guarantee every SSC kid worked for that title, no luck. I can also almost guarantee every kid on Marlboro worked for both state cups and to be #1 in NJ, no luck. Most of you are very immature and sore losers when your kids team doesnt do well or even when they do well you still have something negative to say. The ones who do this are probably the ones who werent good at sports when they were younger and were always last pick. Why cant everyone just keep their mouth shut and let the players and coaches do the talking, ON THE FIELD, not on a computer. We have to realize this age group is by far the most talented out of past and future years to come and bad mouthing teams and certain players is pathetic. they are 15 year old boys who just want to have fun, competetive soccer and advance in their game so they can play college ball and perhaps even go pro. Congrats to SSC on the national championship, congrats to Marlboro on their very succesful season, and personally i cannot wait for next season to see who will stay on top and who wont.
12:48 well said. All the top teams will look to add players. Some kids leave to pursue other sports or just lose the soccer passion. Next season will be very competitive with about 5-7 teams having a legit shot at winning a state cup. I suppose that is what made Marlboro's winning both this year so special to them, as it was to SSC, SDFC, and NJX in years past.
I can not wait for any team to defeate the current PAPER Stare Cup winners. Boo to SSC on losing to them!!
1:52 sounds like you really hate marlboro...
The kids are all great but the Marlboro parents are horrible. We cringe every time we have to play them and listen to them.
I second 1/58 we try to avoid them also.
Let's not forget the little Italian coach. The stuff that comes out of his mouth
Wow, you guys sure are bored. Marlboro has one parent that is annoying to listen too. To be fair, don't we all have one or two parents that we could do without? My sons team plays them a lot, and I have had many good conversations with them, even while the game is going on.
Lol paper state champs I agree and love it. Haha
I know for a fact that Marlboro reached out to a SDFC back and a former SSC mid and invited them to the nationals. Both said no thanks!!! They have a bad reputation like the guy that used to film all the NJX games.
Dosent the SDFC player live in the Marlboro area? It's crazy that the best local players will not join them because of the coach and parent nonsense.
2:45, be very careful in what you say is a fact. This board is made up facts and you have just added one. FACT is, you cant know it for a fact and I cant know you are wrong as a fact and both be right. Yet you are wrong.
Paper champs, meaning what exactly? On the field they won every game they played in two state tournaments. I would call that field champs. We used to be jealous of NJX, then SSC, now Marlboro, and back again to SSC. Crazy all of you.
2:49 you are wrong and invites were offered to both. That is a fact. I wouldn't allow my child to guest for you guys either. It's funny when the truth comes out and you can not handle it.
2:51 here's another nugget of truth. SDFC forfit in one of the State Cups to pursue the EDP cup. They would have certenly took that cup.
What the hell is going on here. Kids, go out and play and stop spreading rumors and lies.
So many lies. If that makes you feel better about yourself, good for you. Guest players at a National Championship being allowed is a joke. Maybe every team brought them, who knows, but it should not be allowed.I know SSC has already stated that one player came back, 2 were promoted and one is playing with them next year so it isnt a cut on them but a poor reflection of US Club policy.
Dont drag SDFC into this battle, we are enjoying our summer.
Did I just read that Marlboro had zero wins at the Nationals??? What happened and how did SSC go undefeated? Did they play the same division and teams??
Yea I read that also. I guess the cream always rises to the top. Congrats on a national cup and go NJ!!!
I am not a Marlboro cheerleader either but I am Italian. Let's keep the inappropriate comments out of this blog.
Stronghold sure does spend a lot of time on this blog. You really did take over for Marlton but to your credit you have taken it to new heights. Lying and pretending will only get you so far. On a bright note you did realize that the team you HAD was not good enough and you added new players. Hey if you cant train em recruit em.
If you people would like to get back to a real, factual conversation, I believe that SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, Marlton and maybe STA and SJEB will be great watches next year. Be proud that there are so many quality teams in NJ. Add in the NY teams and why travel anywhere.
"if you can't train them , recruit them" what an uniformed and ridiculous post. Every single player there has been trained by SSC for minimum two full years some since u 9. Even your so called guests , ringers, mercenaries, etc are players who started with falcons and have returned. Put us down all you want, it only strengthens our resolve.
Boy you people are NUTS
What most fail to realize is the fundamental difference between state and us club rosters . The NJ state roster is limited and frozen , while the us club allows movement and flexibility. Both serve different purposes well.
A guest player is from outside your club, not your team. Moving players within the club ranks is allowed even in the rhode island regional via a club pass issued by the state office. Every player SSC used started their soccer at our club . They're back, watch out!
It's been about a year since I checked this forum and nothing has changed. People are still fighting over rankings. Congrats to Marlboro for their double state cup win and congrats to SSC on wining a national championship and representing NJ!!
Regardless of the guesting issue, this division now goes by the motto on any given Sunday. Nationals were SSC's Sunday. Period.
Please understand that Stronghold is again the team that others will compare too. No NU or NY team will beat this Stronghold team in the upcoming year. Yes, that strong.
Any chance this forum could be changed to the SSC vs Marlboro forum and a new forum started that covers 99.99% of the rest of the U15 world? This is getting tedious beyond belief. What a pair of tools.
To SSC's point above, although absurd, it may not be that far off. Take a look at the top NJ teams (current rankings)MarlboroSDFCSJEBSTAMarltonHolmdelSSCGalacticosPrincetonTSFBocaForceHowellAfter Marlton #4, no one can even come close to beating Stronghold, so what Stronghold is saying is that they only have 4 possible competitive games in NJ to play.
Blah blah blah........ Any given Sunday is correct for U15 boys. All the teams are good and the competition is tight all around. It's great that we live in a area where soccer is so popular. With that being said the plain and simple truth is that championships are in this order. 1. State2. Region3. NationalWho ever advances the furthest is the most successful team of the year. My son is not on a team that has one any of the championships this year. However the year is coming to an end and we hope to next year. Until then congratulations to SSC on being the top NJ team. There is nothing else to say or argue...
I agree with 8:49. Be proud that a NJ team won the national championship! There is nothing to argue here.
The real National Championship is being played this week in Maryland and no NJ team U15 even qualified. The US Club National Championship is ok but since they allow floating rosters it isnt a true "team" championship. Sorry SSC and Marlboro, it just is not. It also isnt a true state championship as you can alter your rosters during the competition. Sorry Marlboro.If you want to use the logic that what ever team goes the furthest in a strict roster sense with no juggling or adding of players then that would have to go to Marlboro in NJ. NJYS state champions and USYS Regional semi finalist. If that diminishes what SSC did, sorry but that is how it goes. If SSC is what they say they are in the future they can win the correct state title, move on to regionals and the real National Championship tournament.
9:15 you are an idiot and your thoughts are incorrect. Both championships are pound for pound equal. It's for the club to decide what route they want to take and that's it. It's obvious you son is on either Marlboro or SSC. Sorry that your son could not have one of the titles. LMAO still about your post
For the record Marlboro is the best U15 town team in NJ. It's amazing that they have put a solid program that can challenge the select clubs. I tip my hat to them.
9:26 if being 100% correct makes me an idiot then you must really be a moron. My son plays for a team that has played both over the past two seasons, not for either. Maybe what you are trying to say is that they are both accomplishments, and if so just say it. They are, but in my opinion and the opinion of every reputable soccer mind the USYS championship format far out weighs the US Club format.
Are they really a town team? Yes they play under the Marlboro name but where do the kids live? How is it run? Is it inexpensive compared to SDFC or SSC? Isnt Marlton a town team also?
It's Simple both Jersey teams were at the same nationals under the same rules. The higher ranked team could not beat the lower ranked team..Marlboro left winless.. SSC beat hota 2-1 in finals.. Until next year SSC has the bragging rights as National champions
There are no town teams at this level, no town in NJ can produce 15 - 18 players to compete at this level. The teams with the town label draw from outside their town as well, although maybe not as widespread as others.
915 you make sense til you state "correct" state championship as if playing in us club competition is the wrong way to go. There are two state cups , regionals, and nationals, and while I agree the one in MD is more prestigious , they are both accomplishments. No one should smear or tarnish what SSC did in NC. It was not easy and NJ soccer wins out in the long run.
Also stating you are 100% correct is a bit inflated as well.
Not inflated at all, 9:15 was correct in what they wrote.
Marlboro is a town team, the players come from many different towns. Is it harder for a named town team to attract players then it is for a program (SSC, SDFC, SJEB) to attract players? Most likely. Regardless, they have done a very good job, as has Marlton which is in the same boat. Take a look at the top teams, who is next that uses a town name? No one that is any good anymore.
Go NJ !!!!!!
The real National Championship???? Let's be real here. Both Cup's represent two organizations with two different methodologies. The are competitors to each other and both claim to be #1. The US Club was started to promote a more fluid roster to foster the highest playing level possible "just like the European leagues". The US Youth Soccer Cup believes in a locked roster. Both are great cups and I don't beleive one is better than the other. It's up to the club to join one or both of the organizations. The Academy's choose US Club do they can retool and build the best team possible for their regions.
Well said 10:52
Yes 10:52 you and the rest of SSC and NJ can rest on that belief as the real teams are playing in one hour.
10:56 it's 10:52 here. I'm not from SSC and my son has never played for him. I'm a South Jersey parent and have a clear head as my son was not fortunate enough to have played in any of the cups. Why come on here and spew hatred because two NJ teams did well this year. Shane on you. Any State, regional or National titles are prestigious and something all of the boys will remember if they are lucky to get one of the titles.Please grow up and keep this positive because I can assure you that boys from all over are reading these post and learning how immature adults can be.
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