Dedication issues? Not sure if that is correct, most of these guys love the sport. Scheduling will become an issue as the coaches try to schedule their games when they have their stars available, but that should not be any different then any other year.
Most players have committed by now, this is a very good time to reach out to colleges you are interested in, they may have openings due to the fact that they didnt get some players they planned on getting.
Another FDU signing, but this one is a good one.
You are correct good but not much above that. Let's be honest daddy.
YMS U18 Boys are looking to add 1-2 field players and a goalie for the spring season. Players could be 98's or 99's. Our season will run from now until mid-May and we will train 2 nights per week and play one game most weekends. We will compete in the Region 1 Eastern Regional League, Pennsylvania NCS State Cup, and the APL. Please contact Chris McDaniels (ASAP), head coach, if you are interested or have any firstname.lastname@example.org 254-5435
***SSC Parents**** timely post above so your kids soccer season won't be a total washout.
You left, we get it. We are fine thank you.
Grass or artificial turf, which do you prefer to play on?
Depends on how deep the grass is. If mowed properly I'll take grass. If it's 3-4 inches long then turf.
Grass every time for me.
Saw the NJ Cup brackets came out. STA 98 NPL seems to play no real threat, am I missing something?
You missed SSC's big MAPS challenge for the cup. Bye or BUY? How you merit a bye when you forfeited something like 5 games last season?
That is a very good point. Why would SSC be rewarded for their immature behavior last season? Too late now, and I guess it doesnt really matter but maybe they should not have been left in at all. Or, make them play MF every game this year, that will show them.
Leave MatchFit out of this. No dog in this fight, focusing energy elsewhere.
You're correct go back to your dailey activities.
What are you guys gonna do with yourselves next year??
Truth hurts. SSC was disgraceful last year. MF is the dominant team in this age group.
Oh boy! Somebody is looking to stir things up...
Sorry that was a typo meant to say Marlboro.
How is 1:21 "stirring it up"? You don't believe those are two truths? SSC did NOT honor the game last season, and MF is a dominant team. There are other teams that are very good and of course can beat MF on a given day but going into the game who is the favorite? MF
MF, Marlboro, Holmdel, STA are the four you know will be top teams in NJ this year. Stronghold is always good but they did lose an all-american to MF so that cant be a good sign.
Oh right, Marlboro beat Holmdel for the "National" championship. Forgot, my bad.
Not a big US Club state cup fan but who do you play for that would allow you to talk down to Marlboro and Holmdel? They played in the finals why? Because they beat the other teams to earn that right. Those teams were from all over the country, it just worked out that way in the final. So again, what team do you play for? Why werent you there?
Only someone that does not play these two teams would make such a stupid statement. Both have talented players and have the results to prove they belong where they are.
Taking these games and teams so seriously is ridiculous. Just let the kids play. Adults act like there's so much at stake here. They are youth teams. No team is "threatened" by any other. You win some you lose some. Have fun! A player is only all american because his HS coach gives him that honor. Maybe another coach wouldn't see it the same way.
Hold on a minute. Are you suggesting that a HS coach can simply hit a button and their player is an all american? There are no other obstacles in the way?
NO possible way. If that was the case everyone would be an all american.
Don't kid yourself for one second if you think those honors aren't political and it's who you know and who you blow. Just like those NJ.com player of the week where you can vote hundreds of times.
Someone is completely out of their mind. You may agree or disagree with such appointments but to state that all that has to happen is a coach recommend you is a joke.
Come on, HS soccer isn't serious. Everyone knows that. The coach sees the big kid who scores a lot of goals by running onto the ball as a great player. If you want to believe there's more to it, go ahead.
All-American is serious! Seriously.
All American is 70% serious and 30% fluff. Not all selections from NJ (and other states) are seriously not All American players. Seriously. There are kids who are All American who aren't even key players on their club team, but they were able to toe poke some goals against low quality HS teams and that makes them top in the country?
You forgot Marlton as a State Cup contender. Always a good team, this could be their year.
You can also say you forgot about 20 teams as contenders. With the age change no one knows who is playing on what teams. Could be a whole new group of top teams.
20 teams? Let's not get crazy. One of the top 5 teams will win the State Cups.
Top 5: Any game between the top three would be just phenominal to watch and no sure bet to win. Great work by the Kids, Parents and Coaches in being the top teams in the Country. MarlboroMatchfitHolmdel4-5 slots are: Very good teams that play with a lot of heart.MarltonSJEB-on the bubble StallionsI don't know the status of STA? If they are still in the age group I would put them at a solid 4 ranking. SSC's status is questionable as well, with the loss of key players to competing clubs, thier forfeiture of the remainder of last season and tournament participation, I'd put them in the 7-10 ranking however, they are unquestionably not in the top 5 at this time.
Not sure how you could know any of this for sure. Teams change, players leave, some have graduated and are in college at this point. Teams at this point can be very different from what you state and no one really knows how it will all shake out.
Regardless, the top team is MF.
Graduated and are in college in this age group? Sorry, but 99/98 teams either dropped down to 99 or they remained intact and play 98 (U19). So not sure how they could have graduated and are in college when they haven't graduated HS yet and the younger still have a year to go? It's an opinion-based hyposthesis partly derived from past performance and the top teams are and have thier rosters pretty much intact. So unless 4-5 teams merged thier best players then it's a possibility they might shake out somewhere but not as a top competetor in the state.
Most 98s have graduated high school and are now in college.
Carding was in August, those 98's were not carded and on the team at the start of this season. I give Marlboro the edge over Notfit.
I don't think you should be so confident about teams that haven't even had league play yet. You might be surprised. Every season is a new chance for teams to shine.
Keep knocking on MF, no one added...LOL
Surprised by what? There isn't one team outside the top 5 that can compete at thier level then or now. They had thier chance and face it you're not there.
I guess that begs the question 8:07, who is the top 5 in your mind?
Every team in the top flight of EDP is a good team and they can all compete with every other team in that division. That's about 30 teams.
That is not a top 5 though.
I never mentioned top 5 and I couldn't care less. All I care about is good competition for the boys. Keep living in your elite top 5 bubble!
So you are saying the top five are elite and then there is everyone else?
No, I'm saying elitists suck
Says the person not in the top 5
Maybe your child will be a greedy 1 percenter some day. I'm sure y.ou'll be so proud while you're bragging about it
You assume my son plays on a team in the top 5, when in fact top 20-25 would be the truth. I however do not have an issue with those top 5 teams and know they are better. I do not think being better makes you an elitist. You sound like a jealous person to me.
Good logic. I'm jealous of teenagers.
Season has started. Hudson with the win!!!
Premature with the self congratulations I see. Must have been cold out there.
Any upcoming tournaments teams will be attending?
Should U19 teams be playing tournaments? They are very costly and at this point those players that will be playing in college have already been identified. What would be the point?
They're playing for the challenge and fun of it. The cost is usually included in the club fees.
Really? What club fees pay for the tournament fees? What if you join many tournaments?
Tournaments at this stage are ok if you have the money to do so. No need to travel far, the only college coaches that will be watching you are the coaches you have already signed up to play for. The bigger question to me is what to do this summer? I know you should be conditioning, but are new teams formed to keep you sharp?
There are summer leagues for u20 or u23 teams. Look under leagues in EDP.
Summer should be used to rest.
NJCup is about to begin. Favorite to win? Contenders? Legit longshots?
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Snow anyone? Could hurt the state cup games that have to be played. Next week could be a mess
Saw a forecast for 3-6 tomorrow in Parsippany and another 8 plus on Tuesday. Fields? What fields.
15 inches tomorrow, how will fields be ready for any state cup games with deadlines coming close. I guess MSC is happy they got their tournament in already and Hammonton has none scheduled.
MSC was very lucky to get their tournament in after many previous cancellations. A lot of tournaments and games will be cancelled or postponed. Every spring there is a huge demand for turf fields with most grass being water logged.
Ironbound is this weekend, they do not cancel or at least have not in the past.
They've got to be worried. Maybe they can shovel all the fields but that's unreasonable. They probably use about 100 fields.
Shovel? Why not plow? Do they really use 100 fields? Seems like a lot to me.
Does anyone really care about the Ironbound warmup? Do competitive teams even go to it. No way they will clear their fields, they will lose money.
Ironbound teams are competitive. It's a good local tournament. Not everyone has thousands of dollars to spend on fees, hotels meals, plane fare, etc.
Low to midlevel teams at best.
No need for that comment. We all can read an applied team list.
To the poster above you only agreed with the post above yours. Question for you. Why would there be no need for stating it is a tournament for low to mid level teams? It is true and what is wrong with that type of a tournament?
I've been told it will be canceled Too bad for IB and players
So we know that Match Fit has most of their players committed to play college next year, what about the rest of the top teams in here. Do they also have a lot of college commitments?
nice trolling. of course the top teams do. Define top teams = top 5 teams, if you want to play in college you will.
I guess MF cant stand the feeling of people not thinking about them so they start the same conversation again. Good luck being backups.
Yeah, because most freshman go in and start right away. What a tool!!!
3:52, someone always bites...
"Yeah, because most freshman go in and start right away. What a tool!!!"Or better yet, never start at all. I went to a D1 match last fall in which 21 of the 22 starters were international players. And my understanding is that the 1 American starter (a goal keeper) was actually a back up filling in for an injured international.
21 out of 22? That's just stupid. Were you in the United States??
Looks like not all the NJ Cup games have been played. Likely that extensions have been given out due to field conditions. No real surprises that I see so far.
That's nuts. What were the names of the schools playing?
Check out a Rider/FDU/LIU/Adelphia/Georgian court (should I go on?) match. Easily can field an entire starting team of foreign players. Why is this such a shock to you?
I was at a Rider game when they played Nova. They do have a bunch of foreigners on their team. I think Rider had about 7-8 starters. Villanova had 1 or 2. To act like those 4 teams you mentioned are representative of what college soccer is like is a bit misleading.
Albany, St Bonn, Rhode Island, Stoneybrook. Just a few more.
I took a look at some of the schools listed, no so surprisingly they are mostly foreign players. I have a relative who is a staff member at Mercyhurst University and he tells me that their team is at least 85% foreign players.
Just for the heck of it I checked out last year's D1 final four teams. 10 foreigners total on all 4 rosters.
So US players are better!!!! I knew it!!!!
Ocean vs Holmdel in the next round. Do not be surprised at the result.
The US players are just as good as the foreign but college coaches recruit a lot overseas and these players are offered full scholarships. Not a great situation for US athletes.
Foreign players do have an easier time getting into D2 and some D3 schools as many of them don't have the academic history required by more competitive schools.
Wall upsets Marlton. Or is it an upset? Wall has flown under the radar for some time.
It is at the very least an interesting result. Marlton is a very good team that has never won a State title. Only one more chance.
What's upsetting is a self inflating parent whose little toe poker is on Wall is on here to tell us about thier first win out of MAPS. You probably dominated the MOSA Premier flights too...
Toe poker? Is that what you saw? LOL
#10 losing to #24 is not that big of a deal. Could happen to any team on any day. New rosters for most teams, I think you will see more so called upsets in the future.
I agree, there are going to be lots of upsets this year. This age group is going to be a real wild card. Kids are all playing for different reasons. Some to keep in shape, some hoping to possibly catch on with a college team, some for the fun of it.
Yeah. TSF over holmdel prolly not an "upset" either. Teams are stacked with players with a variety of reasons for playing at this point-as an. Earlier poster pointed out.
to keep in shape or for the fun of it wont work if you want to win
why is winning so important to you? It doesn't mean much at this stage.
Yes, the time for winning is kinda over. Years past you wanted to win so you can get to the top flights of best tournaments so you can be seen by college coaches. Pretty sure these 18-19 year old kids aren't looking for trophies and medals.
Do you seriously think that these players do not want to win when they step on the field? How do you think many of them go to where they are and will be (playing in college). No one said there was an end game of getting into better tournaments, but the will and desire to win a game is there.
I don't think that most players think winning is the most important thing. They play because they love the sport. If kids only motive is winning, they end up losing interest.
Yes, on some teams out there the parents want it A LOT more than the kids.
Top level athletes care about winning. That is how they became top.
Top level athletes care about winning but they know it's not the most important thing and that's what makes them top.
"winning doesn't matter anymore" Marlton.
It's all over in 3 months, what are guys gonna do??
Some will move on to their younger children, some will look for college forums, some will vanish.
"playing doesn't matter anymore" SSC
Is Stronghold bagging games again? If you cant give an example dont bring it up.
They bagged this Sunday's game vs. MF
For all you know there was a legit reason. Fields not ready maybe?
Turf. No snow at all. You would think after what the team did last year that would make it to early season games...
what? "that would make it to early season games"???? What are you trying to say?
Typo, THAT should've been THEY, you still should have understood my point. But I get it, you are trying to change the subject. I will be totally stunned if SSC plays all of their games.
Why wouldnt they play their games? What is their point, hey guys lets pay to join this league and I know how we will get them, we wont play our games. Now lets go show them!
That's what they did last year...
They didnt play their last 2 games, now why would they join a league and not play their games this year? That makes no sense at all, they all have money to throw around and just want to be a pain to the league? There is a reason they couldnt play their game, sorry it didnt work out for you but they are not trying to please you.
I am not upset, you asked for an example of SSC bagging games. I provided you with an example. Yet you feel compelled to defend them.
You have yet to give a reason as to WHY any team would do this.
Ask the SSC coach
I have no idea why, but I do know they have bailed out of their first league game. That's what you asked for. Since you seem to be part of SSC maybe you can tell me why they bagged the game this weekend.
Fear of MF, obviously.
Isn't MF playing in a different league than SSC? Any game was probably just a scrimmage. I'm sure no team is scared of MF unless they deliberately go out and try to hurt other teams.
What are you talking about? Scrimmage?? You have no idea what you are talking about. None...
Why league game was it then?
Edp games are changed all the time. Relax MF the game will get played
Prediction: MF over SSC 5-0 easy with a 3-0 in the first half. SSC coach with a minimum of a yellow card for misconduct.
Is he still the coach? You have to question the parents who allow this fraud to coach their sons.
Wall wins again. Still sleeping?
No but you are putting us to sleep Wall...OK you're out of MOSA good job we got it.
Not the previous person who brought up Wall, but Wall has added some players and have improved an already good team. Are they great? IDK but time will tell.
New Jerseys top 3 play each other this weekend, any thoughts? and yes Wall plays as well.
Ok I will bite, who does Matchfit play?
Who are top three? There are a lot of games this weekend.
Top 3 in nj as per gotsoccer. NJCSA MarlboroMatchFitHolmdel Wall a close 4th
SSC, did you pay or will you have another forfeit?FINES1. A $250 fine will be accessed upon 1st forfeit.2. The club president MUST write a formal letter to EDP regarding the forfeit.3. The club will pay the fine within 3 business days.4. If the fine is not paid within the required timeframe, then that team’s succeedingweek’s match will NOT be played and the team will be issued a 3-0 loss. 5. Should a second forfeit occur within a Club in the same seasonal year, the matterwill be sent to the EDP league office to determine sanctions.6. If no score is reported 3 days following a completed game, the home team will beissued a $50 fine.
Wall in a close 34 spot in NJ Gotsoccer ranking. Best to piss on the porch like a puppy thinking big then go tangle in the yard with the big dogs and be reminded your a puppy.
SSC is in turmoil. The parents/kids have little/no committment. They can't even get 11 to a practice let alone a game.
All went downhill with SSC once they took on the NJ Nomad. Moves from team to team in hopes of stardom. Funny how every team that family moved too got worse with the addition.
Most of it stems from the favourtism of certain players with the revolving door with Redbulls, Daddy's influence with management and coach whose behaviour drives colleges away. I know who you are talking about and it's the parents, one left and one remains rostered. They are Queen's court when it comes to drama.
Their are favorites everywhere. If a coach believes a player can help him win, for the most part they will take that player. The coaches all talk a big game but push come to shove the win/loss record is what attracts new business to them. No coach is going to drive college coaches away, if that was the case very few players in NJ would be playing in college based on how the coaches behave.
Speaking of behavior, Holmdel plays Marlboro tonight in a revenge game.
Should be a good match, both good teams. Where is it being played?
Lots of state cup games this weekend, hope you have turf.
EDP has Marlboro 2 Holmdel 1. Assuming that is correct, the score would indicate a close match. Any insight?
Two good teams. Both had chances. Refs were questionable but seemed to wear orange underwear
Wall wins and moves on. I know, MOSA is your comeback
Matchfit why don't you say you pulled out of the first schedule game last season vs SSC, all because it was to windy....matchfit you are a bunch of crybabies.. you only want to play when it's favorable to you..you complained last year when you lost to Marlboro saying the grass was to high..big crybabies
I would say MF is doing just fine for themselves Too team in NJ that no one wants to olay
The crybabies now have 18 D1 commits. Congrats to the latest UPenn commit. I would name the rest of the schools, but I'm sure you already know them. Good luck to all at the next level.
I don't and why do you think anyone cares? Some of your players get to play D1. Good for them, it's what they worked hard for and paid plenty. Those players are moving on. Their coach just stays in the same place. Please stop being so self obsessed!
I think it is great that MF has so many D1 commits. For those of you that play them you know they are a very good team with some very skilled players. You might have also noticed that they may or may not be better then your son and that the main reason they get the D1 exposure is because their coach WORKED to put them in the right places at the right times and made the proper calls. If you think your son is as good as some at MF that are playing D1, and your son is not, well you might have a point. Maybe your coach should have done something, done anything. These college coaches do listen.
Playing for uPenn is not a big deal.. they are a crappy team that most top 3 div colleges would beat..great school.. not a great soccer program
Nice how misfits change the conversation quickly
Did you mean matchfit
Well, I wish my son could play on the crappy UPenn team.
Looked up MatchFit on gotsoccer, as expected they are doing very well and rarely lose. Just lost to NJCSA Marlboro but that was 1 vs 2 so I am sure that can go either way. Personally I hope all of the players that are qualified to play in college get a chance to do so. I played D3 and we played 2 D1 teams every year. We won some, lost some over the years but they were always close and the difference was not what you might think.
You must be tool talking like that about UPenn. Who cares about how good the team is. At this point, it is all about the college/education. Where is your kid going? LOL. BTW, I am not a Match Fit parent.
Why would you find it funny that someone is going to a less prestigious school then UPenn? Lets take a leap here, your son does't go to UPenn or any other Ivy school. Do you laugh at him?
Why do you say it's all about the education? Maybe playing quality soccer is equally important to some kids.
You are a moron
Some of you are really this dumb? They play soccer because they love the game. It helped some get into schools that maybe they would not have gotten into otherwise. Now they start all over again and fight for playtime, some will get it others will not. While all of this is going on they will be working towards the end goal...........getting a job.
NJCup sweet 16NJCSA Marlboro vs Excel RasenNot sure who Excel Rasen is, where they play out of or anything. I think they are a newly formed team which could be dangerous if they put a team together of all stars. Marlboro is the #1 ranked team in the state and country so I have to believe they are stronger and will choose Marlboro to win this game.SJEB 99 Academy vs Wall EliteSJEB is a strong 99 team while Wall is a mid level 98 squad that has added some players. Wall will have the size advantage, SJEB will have the skill level needed to knock off Wall in PK'sHolmdel NJX vs Mainland UTDMainland UTD has had an easy ride so far and this will be a punishing defeat. Holmdel is too talented to allow this to be a close game.TSF academy 98/99 vs East Brunswick UTDTSF has a nice track record and East Brunswick shouldnt stay close in this one, but somehow I see a close game. TSF 3-1TSF Academy 99 vs Cedar Stars 99Cedar Stars is a dark horse in this tournament to win it all and TSF just doesnt have what is needed to win this game. CS will win 4-1Stronghold Falcons vs Go Soccer WembleyBlowout city. SSC will not take this seriously and if past performance means anything they will have players missing for no legit reason. Yet, they will win handily vs the Go Soccer team that doesnt even know how they are still playing.SJEB 98 Academy vs Toms River NewcastleAt first sight SJEB should have no issues here but Toms River has a history of hanging tough and I wouldnt be surprised if this was closer then people might think. SJEB will pull it out.STA 1998 NPL vs Hudson UTD With the top STA team in this age group knocked out this is STA's last hope. Hudson will win this game and move on to play SJEB.
That is a solid post and pretty accurate in the sweet 16. Prior to that post, 1/2 of the Freshman class won't even see the pitch thier first year and the other half may tip 100 minutes played. Then figure that only 2-5% of the freshman or so will still be playing as a senior.
Wall will not lose, big and skilled for those that don't know.
If your toe pokers run thier feet as much as you run your mouth you might have not have to get to Pk's.
Why do you call them toe pokers?
in prior postTSF Academy 99 vs Cedar Stars 99Cedar Stars is a dark horse in this tournament to win it all and TSF just doesnt have what is needed to win this game. CS will win 4-1Result Cedar Stars 99 5-0 over TSF Academy 99As much as I predicted a 4-1 win for CSA I am still a bit surprised at a 5-0 result. CSA may have gone form a dark horse to Stallion after this one.
Any reports from that game? TSF is good team. Seems crazily lopsided but that happens. Curious to hear what the game was like.
Cedar stars coach used to coach SDFC 98 boys...he's a good coach with good players but to say cedar stars now is a stallion in the race might still be a reach. They still need to get through strong 98 teams including SSC ((if they show up)) and most likely SJEB or STA....those matchups will be interesting to say the least.
Do you think there is a difference between a 98 team playing a 99 team? 99's can still have seniors on their teams too. I guess it is hard to gauge because they do not play one another anywhere else.
Good question. I would say it would depend on the team. There could be a bit of a size and maturity difference but overall a 99 team should be able to compete with a 98 team. IMO
Competing vs 98 and 99s will be different experiences depending on different teams strengths and weaknesses. I'd say 99s can absolutely compete and will be hungry to prove a point against the older guys and the older guys may even take them lightly...every game will be different but I'd still give the edge to the 98s To big brother the 99s
1 more day until Wall proves it again.
Prediction:SJEB 98 Academy vs Toms River NewcastleAt first sight SJEB should have no issues here but Toms River has a history of hanging tough and I wouldnt be surprised if this was closer then people might think. SJEB will pull it out.Result:SJEB 98 1-0 win over Toms River Newcastle. Result = prediction.
2 for 2 Mr predictor. Tonight you will be wrong, Wall will win tonight.
Me predictor you are wrong. Wall 5-0 That SJEB team is supposed to be good? Anyway, onward Wall, more teams to slay
Just kidding mr predictor. Wanted to see if anyone would bite. You were still wrong but not to that final score. I have been saying for a few weeks now that Wall is underappreciated and are a much better team then anyone gives credit too. Has a few really top level players and many good to very good players on it. Excellent coaching and has added some key players now. Again I say do not sleep on Wall. SJEB was a decent team but really the better team won and I think even SJEB would admit that to be true. ONWARD WALL!
Wall winning isn't a great surprise. Above average 98 beat a good 99.
I missed one, Wall with a victory over SJEB academy 99. 2-1 so far with the predictions, congrats to Wall with what seems to be an upset.
Look at Wall doing its thing. I see an upset blooming on the horizon! Marlboro (NJCSA) whatever you call yourself now, you better watch out, that is, if you beat Excel.
Of course anything can happen but if you are looking at past performance Marlboro plays thoroughbreds while Wall has beaten one good 98 team, Marlton. Is that enough to go on to say that they will beat Marlboro? To your point we do not even know if they will play Marlboro yet. Marlboro is ranked the #1 team in the country, they got there by winning games. Wall from what I can tell is playing well against average teams. I would be very surprised to see a Wall victory if this even materializes.
The new kids on the block against the number 1 team in the nation. It has the makings of a good game; if it happens.Good luck to both!
Wall is not a team worthy of a new kids on the block title. This team has been around since U8, ok some different players I am sure but not a new team in any sense. They have no chance of winning a state cup, none, zero. They can win a game on any day but complete the whole tournament no way.
Never say never. New players = new results.
Why do they have 0 chance? Have you seen the team play? Are their uniforms not fancy enough? Do the families not pay enough in fees? Are the coaches not up to your standards?
Yes, uniforms are the reason. I dont know what they pay and the coaches are reputable so it has to be the uniforms.
The coach of the 98's is an excellent coach. He's on the coaching staff at Monmouth University.
Wall HS soccer had a good season and some of those players are on the club team so you never know
Yes, let's bring in HS soccer to the equation now. Hey, everyone is saying you never know but no one is saying they will.
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