already changed again actually.....
Stronghold will jump over many of you with the NJYS points. Marlton will lose many points.
If only TSF had entered into NJYS state cup. You could've earned more pts. to prove you're great.
If that were the case maybe one of the 4 left wouldnt get their points either
Good luck to the 4 teams competing this weekend for the NJYS state cup. 4 quality teams, all can win it all.
NJYS, what the plan for the weekend?! The weather doesn't look good for tomorrow afternoon. Please tell us you have a plan.
Who cares if Friendship fields get beat up, oh sorry they already are.
All this Got Soccer discussion reminded me of a question I had when the Ironbound Navigators team suddenly showed up in the U17 rankings. The team seems to be a U16 team that plays up at U17? However, when they moved into the U17 rankings most of their points were from previous U15 tournaments and games (not U16 tournaments or games). I didn't understand how they got to use U15 points in the U17 rankings. Does anyone know how that works?
As long as you have a % of players from the folded team (believe it is 8) you can carry your points. Now should you be able to carry points from a different age group? Different question. With that being said, no one believe that Ironbound is a good team at this level.
Super Y league has started awarding got soccer pts. Most good teams don't even play in Super Y. Too many tournaments award pts.
You can give points to whoever you want too, the top teams just dont lose to the lesser teams. It is easy to predict.
Good luck Stronghold you deserve one. Two best teams are left standing
SDFC lost? Have they ever won a state cup?
MF goes back to back.
Heads up stronghold. Many championships and finals
EDP today, Marlton 3, Marlboro 2. Usually a good game between these two. Lots of respect for each other.
MF, thank you for your words but we don't need them. 3 State Cups in 4 years and 1 National Championship. Good luck to you in Regionals.
4 teams have played in the past 4 state cups in two years.Marlton vs match fit Marlton vs SscSsc vs MarlboroSsc vs match fitSays a lot about these teams
9:42, your post got my curiosity up. If you take the NJYS SC and the US Club SC for the past 4 years you have 8 possible winners. Here are the results I found:Stronghold 3 State ChampionshipsMarlboro 3 State ChampionshipsMatch Fit 2 State ChampionshipsStronghold may be the most impressive as they were in many finals games too. Match Fit newer to all of this after coming off academy status. Marlboro with 3 is the shocker, who knew. That leaves REALLY good teams like STA, SDFC, Marlton, SJEB on the outside looking in and I think we all know that they all are good enough to have won any one of these state championships.
MFA is the top team, but give credit to Stronghold, they just might be a very close #2
I'll agree with that if I ever see a convincing win by those two teams over any other top teams.
Ask yourself this, if your team is playing MF or SSC would you be the underdog in that game? No one is saying that teams cant lose. If you think that your team is better, let us know and provide facts to back it up.
MF played a great match, no doubt, but even they would have to agree that Stronghold had the better of play for much of the time. MF attempted a possession strategy but that was not the best plan in those conditions.
Really? On a very windy day hitting long balls high up in the air is the best strategy which is what SSC did all game. Keeping the ball on the ground and possessing it seems like the smart move to me.
SSC better of the play?! They had one shot on goal the entire game. That comment is just rediculous.
Matchfit strategy was to kick the ball from their backs to the one African American forward the whole game..
Bergenfield top 25 now. Don't sleep
Oh mighty and dominant MF, you won by one goal. You complained when you lost by one goal now you are blast emailing your title. Just remember you still don't have as many championships as us.
7 D1 commits so far. They must do something more than just kick the ball up to the African American kid...
Match Fit has two championships in two years. Will probably have three a year from now.
3 ACC🤔1patriot League🤔1 Big 10🤔 And many more... But SSC is better. Competed for club state cup for 2 years and won both. If the math adds up looks like a third to me.
Thanks for the info Greg
Yo you old angry dads on here racist af. African American forward? Racist AF. Well done MF. Stronghold tighten up all you do is whine and get red carded no one likes you no one respects you Cus you don't command respect...just bitch and whine.
How exactly is that racist?
"Old angry dads", "racist" the liberal indoctrination of another of our youth...
Sounds like the recruits will go to schools that play the same style as MF, kick to the atheletic African American forward...I don't think those schools have won anything at the college level.
What other top teams have division 1 players? Anyone, sdfc, ssc, Marlton, Marlboro, sta?
Are you both serious? 7:47, you sound like a complete tool. 8:21, do you really think that MF is the only team that has/will have D1 players? You may also want to get a grip on the D1 BS. Do you know that there are D3 schools that can offer a better education, can play as well as some D1 schools and can offer more money to get you to go there? If you don't maybe it is time to do your homework. Players, don't get caught up in the D1 trap, it is great for some but not good at all for others. Please remember that you are there for an education and soccer WILL take away from effective study time. Not everyone can handle it.
A voice or reason at 8:36. Be careful people might learn something.
I'm intrested to see where all the top players from top teams are going. I've heard of match fit players and sdfc player, where are marlboro, sta, Marlton, sjeb, ssc players attending? Also there is a difference between the divisions, d1 and d3 are different styles of play.
Maybe you have heard of the MF players because they run this board and they are the only one's shouting it out. Regarding your question on difference of D1 vs D3 style of play, I am not sure what you are getting at. D1 schools have the same style of play as a community college or maybe they dont have the same style of play. The worst D3 school could very easily utilize the exact same style of play as Maryland does, what is your point.
So besides match fit and sdfc is anyone playing in college from the top teams?
No. No players will be playing in college. The college system will crumble and the sport will no longer exist. MF, because you want to share your successes that does not mean everyone feels the same way. Worry about yourself and your players may or may not see them on the pitch for another 4 years.
A lot of these kids will be playing in college. Most have not even applied yet. Many will choose to focus on academics and play club. Some might choose not to go to college at all and see if they can make it as a professional player. I heard of kids leaving the US to play in Europe or Latin America. If the goal is to play professionally, why even go to college?
It is a stupid question asked by GD. Just egging you on.
Not sure why we are fighting over kids going div 1 or div 3, I bet boys from the top 6 teams will end up as teammates in college..
Well if we knew where people are going we could find out? Any insight of where kids from Marlboro, ssc, Marlton, sjeb or sta are going?
Got to love the tenacity of 8:05. He just keeps rephrasing his question in the hopes that someone will be as gossipy as he is.
Will MF start playing the players that are not committed now to give them a chance to play in college?
Probably not. Winning is too important to them
Just intrested to see where the top players of the top teams are going besides match fit and sdfc.
You know your MF players and you know where one SDFC player is going. It is killing you because you just need to know
MF wants everyone to think they're the best because they have the most college commits. Bravo MF, Now give it a rest!
Actually, the only reason college commitments came up was because one of you knuckleheads, who knows nothing about soccer, said all MF does is kick the ball up to the "African American forward". Just pointing out how pathetically stupid that remark was. BTW another commit today, #8.
Then you are dumber than I thought. Did you really take that comment as credible? Only an idiot would write what they did and you went right for it. Do you really think that people believe MF is not a good team? Do you really think that people think MF plays kick and run? You should have just laughed at the idiotic comment and moved on.
Question for you guys that know it all, how good would MF be without the African American strikers? Who would be your target player? Please enlighten us
Every good team has fast, athletic strikers. Race doesn't matter.
12:42 I hate to take MF side here but you are clueless if you really think that one player makes that big of a difference. They are a talented group of players. There are other strikers that are as good and SDFC would say much better. Personally I would say the teams they play on are better for having them but they dont make the team.
12:42 just to show you how much progress I amMaking, I will simply laugh off that idiotic comment...
Marlton has two seniors on their team. One is committed to La Salle. The other is committed to Cabrini. Several of their players have multiple options that are in process and already on the table with more on the way. I'm sure the other top teams have numerous players in the same boat, which is great. Not going to say any more than that. Not appropriate while discussions and decisions are still in the works. It's still early fellas. Very confident that many players from the top teams will see each other in college and that should be fun for them....while they focus on their education.
By the way the 8 MF that are committed is worthless as of now..are only verbal by both.. School can change their mind due to a better prospect or an injury.. The athlete could also change his mind and decide for a better school or simply decide not to play soccer.. Marlton is correct is to early for the Juniors..
Holmdel is not lighting it up in the second division as predicted. So much for their claim to getting screwed by EDP.
relax, Holmdel is a very good team just like the others. Still say NJforce should not have been moved up. They of course have proven that.
4 games played minimum in top division: Force, Morris, Europa, SJB, SDFC, YMS at 7 points or under. plenty of good teams not lighting it up but still have plenty of games to earn points and jump up in standings.Holmdel has played 4 games: 8 points. 2W-2T-0L in 2nd division which is not great but I wouldnt pick against them to finish top of the table.
The top teams have not played many games at all in the top division. They have not had the opportunity to light it up. Holmdel, you should be crushing that flight and you are not. Whether you win it or not does not change that fact.
Marlton players even that good haha? Don't think they are no offense, never impressed me.
when you say ha ha you mean offense. Offense intended.
Most of these players on club teams are going to play D3 if at all. Reality is D1 teams are full of academy players and foreign players. MF is an exception since they played academy and many colleges still consider them academy quality.
Match fit you are not perfect, you have players that are great and going to college everyone knows that already. Marlton has a D1 player, Sdfc has a D1 player(s). Other top teams have d1 players not just you, the comment of d1 schools have academy or foreign players I'm sure the kids from sdfc or Marlton aren't foreign and haven't played acadamy.
I think 11:42 is talking in general terms, of course there are always exceptions. Still not sure why D1 is such a point of emphasis. There are some exceptional schools that play very good soccer and happen to be D3. There are not a lot of quality D2 choices in NJ but in other parts of the country there are. LaSalle has been named as a landing spot for a player and good for him, he gets to say he is playing D1 soccer. LaSalle however is not a top D1 team and there are D3 schools that can easily compete with them. Worry about choosing the right school first.
I said most and I'm not from MF. Just reality. Just look at D1 rosters. They also favor big players.
There's a lot of hype about foreign players, academy players, huge defenders. The assumption by college coaches is they're better players. I heard of college coaches not even seeing foreign players play, they just call up the coach on the phone and take their recommendation. Almost all of athletic scholarship money is going to these players and they haven't even heard of US development academy. My son is stuck in this D1 nonsense and I'm trying to convince him that many D3 schools are very competitive.
Schools generally don't withdraw their commitments. Some do but they are in the minority. If schools backed out of commitments on a regular basis it would get around and kids wouldn't commit to them. That said, it is still very early in the process for the kids graduating in '17.This summer and next fall will be when the bulk will commit.
Big, Foreign, Academy. Why do coaches lean this way? Job security! I cant be wrong they are big and from Spain. I cant be wrong they played for Red Bulls. Coaches have to make a living too.
To 1:10 I agree that you need to choose the school that fits especially with major and athletic abilities, you need to feel at home or comfortable where you go. I also feel that if a school offers you a large scholarship and they compete with schools such as Villanova, Temple and Rider in the Atlantic 10 or Big East wherever they play, the school is a good for especially for a non " Acadamy or foreign player". It may not be a Virginia or Syracuse such as other but it is a Division 1 school that competes. Taking nothing away from the kid but don't see him playing big minutes early. Also don't see how you say D3 schools can compete with D1 schools, different styles of play.
Why do some people put quotes around certain words? What does that mean? Are you poking fun or think it's a lie? "Foreign Players" "Academy players" They are what they are. I find it annoying when people use Quotes around words.
@2'23Please explain why you think there is a different style of play between divisions.Have you watched a lot of college soccer games at D1 and D3 level? I don't think anyone could really make a general statement like that in reference to every D1 or D3 game. I have heard youth coaches tell kids and parents that but they never explain why they think that. What about European players playing on the same team with US players. What's the style of play?
My son, who plays right back, o attended an ID clinic at D1 Villanova and the coach told him they play with a static back four. He doesn't play like that so he was not too interested. High School soccer is played that way. He also attended a clinic at D3 Scranton. Nice possession style. He likes that team and coach.
Same $ each school. Go to nova and get the education.
Any good drama from this weekends games? SSC coach get tossed out of another game or what?
Stop being an ass
EDP 1st division central, which is a beast of a division has only one team without a loss. Match Fit.
We all know that GS has some major flaws, but it's interesting that 8 of the 11 "Diamond" teams are in R1 - definitely a competitive hotbed here in the NE.
For those worried about Holmdels demise in the 2nd flight, all good.
who is playing in what tournament this weekend?
Really? Just look it up, pretty simple
Marlboro 2, Matchfit 0
It would be a nice gesture to cut the grass before play begins. You can't really expect us to bring our clippers do you.
Interesting result. MF resting players for a big tournament or was it played full out?
Grass was a bit long but give credit to Marlboro, they had more chances and outplayed on this day
What? Matchfit lost? I thought it was said that no one can compete with them. You know, with their roster full of D1 commits how could they fail.
Smart to slow down a fast team by keeping grass high. If they did it on purpose, that is smart. Home field advantage should be just that.
Teams that play on public fields have the pull and power to have them cut exactly on the day that they want them cut. Oh, no they dont. I cant believe that a team would use grass as an excuse. Didnt they both play on the same field? We all play on different surfaces and field sizes, we all have to adjust and play the game. Seems one did and one didnt.
Long ball to African American does not work on long grass..duh
Late to the show folks, just saw the two NJ State Champions played this week. Must have been a good game.
Holmdel showing first division ability
Holmdel holmdel Holmdel
Holmdel in the finals tomorrow at Delco vs. Bryc elite from VA
Let's do it
Holmdel wins it! 2-1
Doubt us. Ridicule us. Just can't beat us
I know it's the lower level State Cup and no one is allowed to care about it but that Cape May team won the Region I championship for President's Cup in Maryland and will rep NJ and Region I in Oklahoma in July. I know people will downplay if but anyone representing NJ nationally should be cheered on. They probably should have played in the National Chamionship series as I think the kids get more out of playing better competition and losing than beating slightly better than average teams. How much does their coach want that State Championship next to his name vs what's best for the kids has to be asked.
You are right. No one cares
That's true. No one cares. They should've played up. Good for the kids though who can only play who the coach puts them on the field against.
GL in Oklahoma. There are some people in NJ who still want to see other NJ teams do well.. Well done cape may. Well done holmdel. NJ soccer is very strong
Cape May played at the appropriate level. They're a good team that needed to prove themselves, Nobody on this board took them seriously until they had good results. Now you're saying that they should be challenging themselves more. Why? They've accomplished plenty and they are proud of that.
Cape May would have NO chance of winning the National level state cup, the players knew it, the coach knew it and the parents knew it. They did the only thing they could do, play bad teams and win the tournament. They still get clothes that say state champions, no one will know the difference. This was the last year to really show where you have progressed as a team, the coach failed to show anyone anything.
They did progress as a team. They won! Good for them and if you feel threatened by them, too bad! Good Luck Cape! You have many supporters.
Threatened? To be threatened wouldnt you first have to play in the correct tournament? Until you choose to play the top teams no one will be threatened as per your choice. I understand that tournaments wont put you in the same flight so the only chance you had to prove yourself was in the state cup competitions. You failed to take on the challenge. I see the value of what you did, my sons team had barely a shot at winning the state cup also but his coach decided to challenge them. Your players will never know, or do they??
I'm sure your son would've loved to be on this team but he was challenged. yea!
Why would anyone love to be on a B level team. A team that plays in the NIT of NJ soccer. You are correct that it is an accomplishment but you are incorrect to think it is a great accomplishment. The Presidential level should not even exist for a State Cup tournament. It only does because they know that teams that play at that level would not apply if they had to play the top teams, they would save their money. Money, that is why it exists, so the soccer organizations can get your money. Add on the hotels and travel expenses you now have and you see why it exists. That and for coworkers and grandparents of course.
Top tier spending the same money. You can say that this entire youth soccer system is all about money. Parents spend it. Kids enjoy the experience. I don't think any of it matters that much. Soccer clubs make money, Tournaments make money, then you pay college tuition so your child can continue playing in college.
Yes, they are spending the same money, but if there was only one tier only half the money would be spent. See the difference? Second tier was established to get your money.
No I don't see a difference. 1st tier was also established to get your money.
You dont get it because you dont want to get it. If there was only ONE level of competition in the state cup only half the money would be made. But you keep on being blind.
Sorry for the delayed response, I was cutting the grass so we don't have to hear the tear (pun intended) one team cry this weekend when we play.
Oh I see. Top tier would get 50% off if there was no second tier. I wonder why rosters keep getting bigger? Could it be more money is being made?
Some serious points Holmdel picked up. Sorry SDFC.
Happy for them, the better the teams are in NJ the better the competition is for all in NJ
Nice words for once
With just a few league games left for most teams...do we have any predictions for who finishes top of the tables? Tight races.
Matchfit and holmdel
Matchfit 11-0 over iron bound.
wow MF Overkill!
Cute effort TSF, better luck next time :) Matchfit over TSF 6-3
Scoring 3 goals against a top 5 team in the country isn't bad. Why do u have to be such an ass. Was it a cute effort when Marlboro beat u 2-0?
Marlboro to finish ahead of Cute mf
I wouldn't be so sure of that. MF has more games to play.
Lot of games with little margin for error...
Iron bound lost 2 games combined 21-0. Sjeb and MF both showing a lot of class
That Ironbound team is useless
Ironbound has had a really tough season. They didn't win many games. Not useless but wrong flight.
Oh, so then it is ok to win by 11 goals. Sorry I stand corrected.
I don't think teams should humiliate other teams but it's up to the opposing team's coach to call it off.
True. This will be the second time this year that the Barons have done something like this.
MF has done it before too. To beat up on another team is not showing good sportsmanship. Everyone should remind themselves that this is youth sport not professional.
Looking at the EDP standings looks like Holmdel is in very good shape to win their flight. Big loss for Marlton and their quest for a title, Marlboro won again and Stronghold apparently will play all of their games in one day. Not sure how they are going to get the games in, teams are closing out their seasons. Maybe that is their plan, make other teams forfeit.
Back off. Stronghold will play the games and you might not like the results.
SSC could actually still win the division. It seems they have all the games in hand and play the right teams. I would not be surprised.
When are all league games supposed to finished again...?
What I meant was, there is a tournament this weekend. Schools are all but finished and summer is right around the corner. It doesn't seem right that these games haven't been played yet. What happens to teams who have players not available due to summer vacations? Has SSC played 2 games each weekend of this current season? How can it be possible to have not gotten these games played? State cup isn't a good enough excuse I believe that atleast some of these games could have been scheduled and played by now....what was the hold up???
not sure the reason, but Stronghold is on here all the time I am sure they can answer as to why.
Also not to beat a dead horse but if you go to the edp webpage and click on 1st division central "Misconduct" how is it that a SSC team official has 3 yellow cards and 1 red card in 3 games played in edp!!!!???? This guy should be held accountable like players are and suspended. Its Crazy
Maybe he was and thats why they couldn't get the games played in a timely manner
they should all be forfeits. The matches should have been played by now, maybe have 1 or 2 left. They are asking teams to play them when players will be out of school and on vacations. He is a jackass anyway.
Wow, I didnt know what u were talking about (Strongholds schedule), but something is weird with that. Injuries maybe, but this should be unacceptable to EDP as they constantly send out reminders that games have to be played on the date scheduled. Bad leadership allows this.
Stronghold staying quiet on this subject. We finally found something they wont talk about. When they won their State Cups this year, oops they were quiet then too.
I don't agree with running up the score. In this case it's hard to feel bad for Ironbound. They beat a team from Cherry Hill in the early spring 10-0. Funny, no one was blasting them then. You reap what you sow.
So you found an excuse. So if iron kind jumps off a bridge..,,,,...,,,,,,,,,,,,
Does anyone have advice on the mid atlantic regionals for US Club. Is it a good tournament and is it worth it? It is at PDA but not sure what teams normally play.
Windy day on Sunday and the matches played were hardly played well. No EDP games were played so no further clarity on the final standings.
Why? Are there teams with a lot of seniors?
the lights went out on this blog a long time ago.
Problem is that MatchFit is laying low until they win their EDP title, and they will win out to do so. Without Matchfits constant bragging there is little to debate.
Cedar Stars topped Holmdel to deny Holmdel from clinching first all by themselves.
Other than Holmdel, who else is playing in the Mid Atlantic Regionals tournament?
Here you goPDAJersey United SpartansESSA UnionHolmdelSTA MorrisGPS MAParsippanyCedar Stars Academy Newark
That looks like the list from the fifth flight of the Jefferson cup.
HolmdelSTA MorrisGPSall top quality teams.
MF will win it all
^Maybe? Especially if your kid runs his feet as much as you run your mouth.
Match Fit with another EDP title this year.
Congrats to MF on winning EDP. Clearly the best team of a good group
shame they lost to the 2nd best. Clearly they're not that far ahead of the pack.
Win by a forfeit. Why not play your games in a timely manner so you have enough players. EDP is too blame for allowing this
MF was ready and willing to play both teams on multiple occasions, they chose to not play us. I guess it happens at this age group, teams are breaking up as we speak.
Both teams? MF received two forfeits? SSC decided to play 2 games in the first 2 months of the season. The reasons dont matter, that is what they did. They should be relegated to the second division.
Yes, both teams!
Not sure you can put any blame on MF if they tried to play. I would have to think that SSC is to blame because they are always on here and if they had a defense we would have heard it.
Games were on the schedule, cancelled the day before. One team cancelled twice.
Well one team has broken up, the other could be in the stages of breaking up. Who knows?? But I agree, EDP league should fine the organizations.
Look in the mirror Marlboro. If you don't lose two games, you don't finish second.
Who complained about coming in 2nd? Top division forfeits for no reason is the topic of discussion. MF would have preferred to earn it also.
Holmdel one step closer to Nat's!!!!!
Holmdel, what tournament are you in that leads to Nat's?
Have to love it when a team with a roster over 20 cant field a team for a match in over 3 months. I am sure the parents spending all that money must be thrilled with the ROI.
I agree. It's ridiculous that they have to play the same starers every game or they won't play.
Trust me, MF was willing and ready to play. Not really sure of their reasons but we would have preferred the title the old fashioned way.
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Don't even need to play today.
How bad is FC Copa Inter? Seems like they lose 6-1 every match. I thought Copa was a good club, what has changed?
Holmdel looks like they didn't try today. Truth holmdel?
Awesome! You beat 3 less than average teams to go to Nationals, even though you lost in the state tournament. Quite an accomplishment!
Mid Atlantic Regionals is a tournament that leads to Nationals. The games were won, how would you suggest any wrong doing?
Nationals will be in Texas. Where will you be?
Actually Nationals will be in Colorado and Texas. Two different organizations, two different titles. MF will represent NJ in one and NJCSA Marlboro the other. Holmdel will now be allowed to attend, if they should accept.
MF is going to the real nationals. Cant compare the two, and NJ's best will be in Texas.
Normal Match Fit propaganda.
Match Fit has to get through regionals before they get to Nationals. They will have to beat teams that are ranked in Top 10 in the nation to get there. A little different than grabbing some guest players and beating teams ranked 10-20 in the State of NJ. Totally different challenge.
Have you looked at their schedule. When do they play teams ranked 10-20 in nj? Did you see their regional schedule? Easier then their Edp schedule. You speak of what you don't know
Hey 7:27. Next time you post, make some sense.
Prove me wrong
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