Bahahahaha, yes So Cal Blues number 1, but remember this is TopDrawer, who are the biggest ECNL shills ever, besides the DA teams are split 01/02, just good to see them acknowledge OUR local clubs, and even if your daughter does not play for the 3 mentioned, these are OUR local clubs, so have some Region1 pride.
Sooo.. the ranking is bad because topdrawer is skewed towards ECNL.. but its good because they have 3 teams from region 1 in top 5?
You are high.
Even when you look at a mix of YSR rankings across U16 and U17 you'd get 3 out of 5 top teams in ECNL... and no team from NY or NJ. There is pride and then there is brutal objective reality that sets in.
Socal blues is by far the best u16 in the country and probably better than any u16/17 da. They all stayed ecnl even though they all could be on DA teams. Next year you can see how the so cal blues DA team is still #1 when they all go da. My daughter has played with them at camps and lives playing with them. They are skilled and play fast.
3:33 hate to pop the balloons being dropped but GDA is U17/U16 so really not a full U16 team to judge vs. other U16 teams. It's U19/18; U17/16, U15 and U14.
My daughter plays on 1 of the 3 local Da teams mentioned in the list, and honestly, none of us care about that. All we want is our daughters to be recruited by the best schools, that’s it. Just like other leagues, we are also hoping for success come DA Playoffs, since we believe that will be an optimal scouting environment. Best of luck to SoCal Blues, and all the others!
what is all this YSR stuff? just checked older age groups to see how other club teams rank and they aren't even listed. how reliable if not really reliable.
My daughter is going to the NYCFC evaluations on Friday, we saw them play against Oakwood, she was impressed, as was I, and that is very hard to admit.
4:35pm NYCFC parent looking to make his choice to play DA valid after seeing such a poor competition all year. Parents, players, coaches and college coaches all agree the level is below par.
Hearing a FREE DA and GDA coming to Central PA. If this is the case and Schulz is running the program you will NOT see players traveling to Baltimore and West Chester for GDA. It would also hit Classics very hard.
Rush has partnered with George Altirs and the ownership group in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to make its USL club the official professional team at the top of the Rush Soccer pyramid. The Harrisburg City Islanders, who have played in various versions of USL since 2004, will be rebranded as Penn FC beginning in the 2018 USL season, and the goal is for that club to serve as the first stop for players across the Rush soccer family.
“There’s now a professional path for our players,” Schulz told FourFourTwo USA. “The players currently there and the players who will get there from Rush, they are the role models for our 35,000 kids. … It’s a stepping stone for the players that are not quite ready for MLS or a team overseas. This would be a holding ground for our players at USL. One day, hopefully all of our players on first team will be from Rush clubs.”
“This is a great time to be a soccer fan in Pennsylvania,” said USL President Jake Edwards. “There is a lot of fantastic soccer history in Harrisburg, and the fans across the region have proven to be some of the most dedicated in the USL. Penn FC will build on the historic legacy of the City Islanders.”
Altirs, local owner Eric Pettis, and Rush Soccer — an international soccer organization comprised of 85 clubs in the U.S. and abroad — are a particularly exciting part of the new USL brand. Focused on player and product development, this group will elevate the level of professional soccer in the region and give Penn FC a unique position within the sport, putting the professional team at the top of the largest academy system in the world.
Led by Chairman Jérôme de Bontin, who previously served as Director of Ligue 1’s AS Monaco and General Manager at Major League Soccer’s New York Red Bulls, Rush Soccer has provided a major platform for players across the United States and overseas who will now have the potential to become Penn FC players of the future.
“It is difficult to imagine a professional soccer team without an academy — the academy is often referred to as the soul of the organization,” said de Bontin. “Rush Soccer has 40,000 members across the world, and by instilling their faith in us, Penn FC will have one of the largest networks in international soccer to scout from and hopefully develop into world class players for the professional team. Our President Tim Schulz and I have been pursuing a professional team for some time now, and have found it in Penn FC and George Altirs’ organization.”
Altirs will remain the majority owner of the club, but Rush aims to contribute financially in the future. For now, Rush gives Penn FC a wealth of youth partner clubs from which it can potentially benefit with “homegrown” players.
@11:15 am - was looking for older GDA teams. all of those teams have played over 10 games. all teams not listed. some still have their ECNL records showing. and that info is pretty easy to get. YSR doesn't seem to be able to find. that is what I found previously, teams listed several times under different acronyms or names. better than GSP, but YSR still holes in it as well.
They are being added as U17 but who cares. Since they will never play non-da teams so using YSR to flight them or compare them will never be an issue. They should never be included in any compare conversation unless you are using another GDA team. Agree 100%.
10:31 AM Hershey, PA training location for new Penn FC Rush program. Very easy travel for Lancaster, Reading, Lebo and Harrisburg area kids. Some of those kids are traveling to Classics, Continental and PF now. Free DA, it's over, Central, PA kids will stay in Central, PA and will draw kids from other areas.
4:37 wonderful. notice not trashing ECNL. see, you can exchange compliments without being passive aggressive about one another's league choices. enjoy CASL as well.
We are looking to finish strong tomorrow, and begin to prepare for DA Showcase. The fall season progressed quickly, and here we are at the last game. The team is coming together nicely, but there is more to improve upon. Not that it matters to most, but we have forged a path for others to follow, and while there are many detractors, we are happy to be part of they brave new world....
"We have forged a path for others to follow, and while there are many detractors, we are happy to be part of they brave new world...." I could have bashed you for the cheesy, melo-dramatic comments and completely living through your kid but decided to just focus on the "we" talk. Next time I will be more specific.
That's cool 7:48, we can't all be tragically poetic, like myself, but I am sure you can make a contribution to society, somehow. Just don't ask me for details, got nothing right now.
Dude Cedar Stars sucks! It’s PDA leftovers and girls that couldn’t get on PDA. They are equivalent to a Copa NPL team and always will be. NO ONE is getting recruited off of that train wreck.
It's the best team in the conference against the one with the worst record. What did you expect? PF has had a few 1 or 2 goal games with middle and top of the conference teams.
They have been easily winning the games against the much lower ranked teams. I just don't get the posts. This was an expected score I would think.
Disney only two NJ teams at U16? Looking at U17 few more up to 4? wow. Is it true coaches are not going? So CASL, Newss, and edp local events seem to be drawing Northeast teams. Disney is far and expensive, plus sacred holiday for all. usually family time. If playing at Newss that is different because Saturday Sunday.
We’ve been to Disney twice, its too expensive and way overrated, not that many coaches last year, CASL is better bet, NEWSS is a waste of gas, and EDP tourneys are 3-rate now.
There's obviously a clear distinction between the top teams and the lower teams. CSA not a whole lot worse than the other bottom tier. Give the program a chance...
Its possible that in a few years CSA will be more competitive, but by then, my kid will be in college, sadly we live in an instant gratification society. Clubs like PF, PDA and NYCFC will always draw the best talent, but its their job to continue to be successful, which as we all know is neither simple, nor easy.
Sorry to say, GDA came too late for most on these blogs...joining the DA teams now is a waste of time unless your daughter is already on the NT radar. Not everyone can drive to PF or PDA and join clubs that are top notch and will get the attention. Big pic is the female side of soccer does not provide much for the highest percentage of oour girls! Hell, you can be a boy and shoot to have Iceland and Senegal in the WC but not the US!!! Money grab is all this is....
How about if your kid has interest from colleges and she can't tell coaches whether she's on the roster for the game they want to observe? Have heard this more than once from different clubs...
Then you picked the wrong insurance company, I mean soccer club. PDA has 24 girls on the 01/02 roster, but NYCFC has 17, sometimes you have to do some homework.
P.S. Stop bashing GDA, or I will banish from this blog, forever.
Disney, CASL, EDP and Newss. I agree Disney is over rated and CASL is better. It really depends on financial status and location of schools your girl may go to. If they are interested in Florida schools not bad option for Disney. Cost is ridiculous, including the entrance fee. At CASL you will get the college coaches, and many East coast schools because of location not being too far like Disney is. Also mid-west to CASL, again due to distance and cost for the recruiting process. EDP events are definitely 2nd tier, not 3rd tier. You still see some good teams, and great teams here and there. But since no ECNL or DA of course, it has become a low 2nd tier. BUT, still local, affordable and decent soccer, like league play. And fields typically pretty good at Tuckahoe. What a difference from 1-3 years ago when the top teams were at EDP tournaments. Newss is fine, I see ecnl teams and it is local for most of us, not too expensive, no flight. And northeast coaches all come to newss, that is a fact!
7:49 I agree, these other programs will get better in time. about the ones you named, it's easy when as you say they draw top talent. it's the kids don't let anyone fool you. the top talent would flourish anywhere. and all you need is a little success and kids/parents will appear.
8:40 sounds like a bubble player. that can be tough. may not see time unless score warrants or weaker competition. if you want more playing time, may need to move to different club where she may be the big fish in a small pond.
@12:16, the 2nd day they should cut them. agreed. I believe they cut on Friday. Then should cut again after games on Saturday or something. Because it is turf and well managed it grows quickly. I just think about the torn ligaments due to over use on the artificial turf.
Dude, you have your dates mixed-up, the Florida showcase is 12/6-12/10, in Lakewood Ranch, Florida. That is about 3 hours from Orlando. Please check with your coach, but try not to hurt his feelings...
5:01 there are other teams than DA.... Disney is this weekend for other girls who are not as good as your daughter! Happy thxgiving, I bet you're a joy at your gathering...if you were invited..
You guys, so easy to take the bait, relax, no harm meant. It's just competitive razing, similar to siblings in a way! All the best to our ECNL, NPL, and USYS friends this Thanksgiving.
haha. not the op. sad but true. although my daughter knows as well. good parenting and excellent teachers.
you're is a contraction for you are (you're right) and your denotes possession always followed by a noun. your name; your wife; your car. that must be a real challenge; reading the SAT essay responses from kids that communicate in either smiley faces or 140 characters +/-. terrible.
Anyone have any creative recruiting advice, such as when the coaches are at your games. Was thinking of slipping them a Benjamin with my kids name, any other great suggestions????
Just another club, nothing special, they are trying to glean success from the mothership in SD. I know the guy who owns the club, and while he is not a bad guy, the people around him are morons.
This is a crowded landscape, lots of options, NY Surf always knew the market was tough, between WC, NYSC, FURY, EM, and SUSA to name a few. NY Surf are a presence, and an option, they should merge, maybe buy SUSA, and get GDA, that would be huge.
Because that is exactly what is needed, another GDA in NY. Unfortunately, USSF gave the emblems out like they were handing out cookies in that area. No one was refused.
There has to be a second GDA in NJ. There are too many quality players, perhaps NJ Rush would field more competitive teams? You have to figure they have decent NL teams, not a stretch to see them switch, plus there is no conflict with ECNL.
Youth soccer is a billion dollar a year business with everyone clawing their way up no matter who they step on in the process. You talk crap about other clubs to help benefit your situation. Stop bashing other clubs, coaches, players, and leagues and be thankful that you child is healthy and that soccer has helped give your little one an opportunity for higher education with less student debt. All of our kids will need good jobs with great medical benefits to pay for reconstructive surgeries from years of chasing GS points.
CSA will stay no matter what you guys say because they have a national team coach on staff and deep pockets. They have 2 clubs in Boys DA and will probably add another GDA affiliate soon.
That being said, I agree the league is not a huge challenge, and I also agree about Florida being a great barometer.
I heard they had some injuries toward the end of the season* hopefully they will still remain competitive in the oppressive Bradenton humidity, love me some mosquitoes!
We, I mean they, have been very fortunate overall. The core of this team was decimated last year, had to bring-up NPL and EDP girls to fill slots, not good in the ECNL league.
2:15 why? So many posts on this 2002 board reference the GDA teams which are mostly 2001s this year. Next year it will be 2003s and 2002s and the 2001s will be with 2000s. This is why the GDA needs it's own board, but that will never happen. ECNL had their own board - but easier to recruit from main board. They want a closed league but don't want to post on their own league's board? Why? So they can recruit more of us dummies
who is using this board to recruit? it's about sharing information at this age group for all the leagues, including ECNL, GDA, USYS, US Club, etc. the paths are different but the end game is the same.
the families need to choose the paths/the leagues based on whatever fits their needs. but the universal discussions about college recruiting, academics needed, etc. are all the same.
yeah, right the newest soccer craze, league envy. hahaha what a crew. i agree. it's nice to see the differences and the similarities in all the leagues.
5:09 so if my kid is U16 and playing up in any league ECNL, USYS or NPL, i should find a different board? It's about the age of the player not where she plays. and that's not just GDA.
The 2001 and 2002 SJEB/Rush teams are no joke. Some serious players on both teams. Both did well in Florida this weekend. Nice warm up for NL Showcase in North Carolina starting this Thursday. These are games that count.
5:30 if your kid is playing U17 anything posted about the team should be on that forum, no? Why would you post her U17 results or how good a team is on a U16 board?
5:21 many use these boards to recruit. Don't be blind (maybe not you). Why post GDA stuff on a non GDA board when you have a DA board? You have more things in common with the BDA than the non GDA teams, except to show how great it is and how green the grass is. Keep pretending their are no shills.
the blog says U16 not U16 USYS or US Club. it's age specific not league. and it because the age groups share insight about what's going on re college recruiting and maybe add'l training and maybe upcoming tourneys. I could care less about bragging re the results. that's for her club to do.
Meanwhile over at the NEWSS tourney on LI, 2 ECNL teams, EMSC and WNY go down in the flight final to NPL teams, ouch....! I know these are not juggernaut teams, but still, the purge continues...
Massapaqua team who won nationals at U15 won Newss. Not surprised, obviously a great team. Otherwise big dissapointment for Jersey teams, Boca almost made it, but lost to that Rowdies team. Albertson lost players to DA, same as Wildcats and both of their demise continue.
Academy players and teams cannot play in any outside competitions without written permission from the Development Academy staff. This includes any other leagues, high school season, tournaments, State Cup competitions, ODP or All-Star events. There are two potential exceptions to this rule, provided they are approved by Development Academy staff:
Domestic and international tournaments: Domestic & international tournaments may be permitted if they meet Academy's technical standards of one game per day and elite competition. Examples of permitted events include the Dallas Cup, Surf Cup, Disney Showcase, and other International events
Possibility for friendly games: Academy clubs can schedule friendly games to provide players with a heightened development experience. The games must not be part of an organized competition (i.e. tournament, league or camp) as defined in the non-participation regulations, and all competitions must adhere to all Academy standards and guidelines."
It clearly says they can play other teams if the format and competition follows DA rules. Middle paragraph explicitly mentions Disney. We’ve all seen Surf results from the summer where some ECNL teams played DA teams.
The Academy blog is just about the boys, I think this blog has peaked, the glory days are gone. I miss the Wildcats comments, the Match Fit hater, the various characters, GS guy, PDA apologist, Crush copter, NYSC guy, yep u13 were the glory days....
Haha, maybe one or two, but the majority were real people, some them were really great, soccer nut was always the voice of reason, miss his opinions, alas such is life, hope he is doing well where ever he is!
peaked? this is U16. so much more to experience and many, many more tourneys to complain about. NL going on now, CASL this weekend and then DA next week.
The CASL list for coaches is bigger but there are many more teams playing, way more locations, and too many fields. The ratio is better at DA because it is all at one location with only about 20 fields. CASL does have a good number of D1 schools but most are small and not in top of national ranking. There are plenty of D2-D3 schools if that is what you are looking for. Every kid plays at a different level and every coach has different expectations. The biggest difference is that the DA event will have every US National Team scout (U-14 through U23) in attendance.
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at CASL 5. UCF 7. West Virginia 9. Princeton
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at DA 2. North Carolina 3. South Carolina 4. Duke 5. UCF 6. Texas A&M 7. West Virginia 9. Princeton 10. Penn State 12. Texas 13. Pepperdine 14. Notre Dame 15. South Florida 16. Florida State 18. Southern California 19. Florida 20. Tennessee
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at CASL 5. UCF 7. West Virginia 9. Princeton
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at DA 2. North Carolina 3. South Carolina 4. Duke 5. UCF 6. Texas A&M 7. West Virginia 9. Princeton 10. Penn State 12. Texas 13. Pepperdine 14. Notre Dame 15. South Florida 16. Florida State 18. Southern California 19. Florida 20. Tennessee
There is a NT (Great) player who plays ECNL at my daughters club, and I simply do not understand why, am I slow? The other night the ECNL team was practicing right next to the DA teams, and I saw her looking over to the DA side, as if she were distracted, was a little obvious, hahaha, maybe she was bored? I don’t know the family, but she looks too fast, and too sharp, to be on that side of the border.
Not exactly sure what kid/club you are talking about, but if its WCFC I know the family, and they chose to stay ECNL because her talent supercedes any USSF mandate to play GDA. And like someone has already stated, its a personal choice, wish her and the team the best!
1:43pm do add the level for GDA is not comparable to ECNL for the older girls. There is a major drop off. Younger age group's for GDA in my opinion my be better in a few years. Just not now
1:43PM do add the GDA level of players are not at the level of ECNL for the older age groups. I believe the younger GDA players will have a better option in a few years tho. You can debate this, listen to college coaches. when my daughter is being recruited all coaches are in agreement of above statement. My Kid does not belong to ECNL or DA, plays for a very good NPL team
4:44 not true in every conference. most high level kids are playing GDA in most conferences; not all, but most. read the rosters. compare with the high level kids out there. most are doing GDA.
Above not true we had notre dame wisc indiana georgetown and other major d1 coaches at our casl games in top flight. At main site over 50 overall at game. 6yesterday
For the parents on the GDA 02/01 and 00/99 consist of mainly 2nd tier players. yes there are some good teams at GDA but the overall product is subpar. You can post what you want, the overall conversations with coaches express same sentiments. I can use Albertson or FC Fury, this team barely qualified for ECNL Showcase, in the DA this team is a top of the standings. This point alone provides fact the league is subpar. My kid is on Albertson ECNL, we choose not to go for this reason. Plus I know our club and our neighbor club, the players on the ECNL are being heavily recruited and the GDA majority of them are not being contacted at all.
Until ECNL plays some serious ball, the coaches will be blowing smoke.
So far, based on Newss and Disney - it looks like NPL teams were able to catch up to ECNL. So, Albertson's 0-5 loss to Maximus suggests that it wasnt the 2nd tier players. Same thing with EMSC losses to Susa and Massapequa.
8:22. Definitely not talking about WCFC player. She nor any player on that ECNL team is looking at the GDA session "distracted" or "bored". You'll see why in June
8:22. Definitely not talking about WCFC player. She nor any player on that ECNL team is looking at the GDA session "distracted" or "bored". You'll see why in June
1:03 okay, sure. hit your alarm clock. you're dreaming again. you talk about your 00 team from last year. I am sure the GDA team has kids from your 99 team. that team was good. combine it with good players from 00 and you have a winning team. that's not hard to imagine. many teams are experiencing that. and, why would you doubt the success of your own club. only proves what a tool/hater you really are.
Sorry she is on the 02s team. No we are not the same club. We are treated separately. Look at the 02/01 girls on DA, not much traction from colleges. Our 2002 ECNL has traction. yes our team made the showcase barely, good to go yes. Same players, now in first. REally?
what are you talking about? I know GDA kids from 01/02 that are getting plenty of interest. i'm not saying you are mistaken about your ecnl team and interest, as I am sure there is interest there as well. but there are plenty of clubs that are getting very good interest with their GDA teams.
heard there are people that come on these boards to try to recruit to their leagues. sounds like that poster wants ECNL recruits. don't pick a league because an anonymous poster said it's the place to be. do your homework and pick it because it fits the needs of your child and family. that's my 2 cents.
834pm you are validating my point. Our team is average at best last year and this year. Somehow same players move to DA and now they are great. First place etc. nothing changed. Same training same players. Logical answer is league is not very good.
you sound bitter; in particular as you indicated that you/your kid's team isn't the same club because you're treated differently. classic, but your not bitter, right?
maybe they are playing better with a few new better players and don't need to play those mudders that stayed doing ECNL.
instead you say, well the entire league isn't good because you don't believe that kids can improve. enjoy your lemons.
just chiming re GDA over ECNL, my kid likes that there aren't wholesale substitutions of entire lines going on so there is less disruption as far as flow of play. the kids take it more seriously as far as training we have found. they seem closer as a team. maybe the extra trainings are doing it.
so, not finding GDA to be any worse than ECNL or USYS. her team has played some good teams, some very good teams and some not so good. but as another poster added, in most conferences the better or high level players are playing GDA.
I have to debate that. I know over an overwhelming high end players not playing DA. Problem is players on DA beleive they are the better players, players on the ECNL believe they are better. I have seen over 20 DA games, sorry I would lean towards ECNL right now. Could change in a few years by this time our girls are long gone.
overwhelming number not playing? right. check the rosters. most are playing GDA; SOME are not. you can believe whatever you want. btw the earth isn't flat either; although some still believe it is.
overwhelming number not playing? right. check the rosters. most are playing GDA; SOME are not. you can believe whatever you want.
if you're in a weak conference, i can understand. but if you've played pda, fc va, pf, mi hawks, cincinnati, orlando, tophat, courage, real co, etc. maybe you would think differently. i have seen about 20 as well with these teams and i think it's a good product especially in it's first year. i remember the first year for ECNL. very, very weak. this isn't weak because it has a lot of top players in it already. ECNL had to get the player's trust. GDA had the backing of USSF already.
its all pretty much the same except your DA costs are 6 to 7000 a year, you have to haul it 3 to 5 hours for many of these matches, and you can't enjoy playing high school ball something which is great for the college admissions office... other than that, its awesome.
Sorry to disagree, but her DA costs are less than the ECNL team, in both tuition and tournament play, about 3K less. However, there are some DA clubs like NYSC, who will gladly fleece their families.
6:29 hs soccer is an advantage in college admissions? hilarious. keep shoveling it. if your application is being supported by the soccer team and athletic dept with admissions you only need good grades. the dog and pony show isn't necessary. and, pretty sure the soccer team and athletic dept would rather you have US Soccer DA than high school. hs is nice for your hs, but holds no real value in collegiate soccer. case in point, girls from CASL team (many committed to top programs) directed to play GDA and not hs. story on this a few months back. if I can find, i'll post for your review.
not saying don't do hs. it's a choice like anything else, but you certainly don't need it for college in particular any good college program.
agree with 6:55; have paid less for DA than ECNL and USYS (my kid's old USYS team did every tournament imaginable it seemed chasing stupid unnecessary GS point). Zero value in GSP.
but it's not for everybody. you have to go to the league that works for you and your family. and doing or not doing hs is part of it.
now that hs is over, some kids may be rethinking their prior choice.
food for thought. a club that has both and is well respected in the soccer world for boys and girls. lists the differences. considers DA it's top team and while girl can decide to play ECNL if picked for GDA, she can not decide to play GDA if picked for ECNL. kind of puts it into perspective what some top clubs feel about GDA and the type of player required. btw - if you know their top players, you would know they are doing GDA not ECNL.
they have a number of girls in the YNT camp this week that will be playing friendlies during the GDA showcase events.
further - NV - hawks - U18/19 GDA; ML - hawks - U16/17 GDA and more... just saying.... the above poster was saying most high level players not in GDA in particular in older groups. that is being disputed. and these findings only help to solidify it. it seems that more younger YNT kids may not be in GDA, but in the older groups, it seems most are in GDA vs not in it.
All these posts are great but all you need to do is post YOUR experience. Yours doesn't mean the other's is wrong, just different. Do we have children posting on here? Better hope your kid is not being recruited for the parents' maturity level....
Hawks had strong enough 01 to go all 01 at DA. They are struggling at the DA level. The biggest issue is that some teams are playing together for the first time vs teams that have been together a long time. Their 02 team is just ok I assume they lost a couple kids to other DAs although the nat team player that just signed with Duke is very good. For an 02 they will be challenged regardless because they are playing against a lot of 01s. Eyeballing the rosters looked to be 01 75%/25% 02.
My take is that there will be more very good teams on DA than Ecnl. But there will be more very bad teams in both. The average team in ECNL is weaker than last year (it cant possibly be better after losing some top kids to DA). But you still have some very good teams like socal in ecnl.
There are 4 types of DA teams
Giant clubs that try to do it all. All seem to be struggling somewhere. Ecnl teams that are now DA. National League top teams that are now DA. Other clubs that are now DA.
This week will be telling to see how good/bad the northeast DA teams are. I suspect that is the region with the most bad teams.
8:52 are you saying just because someone else posts factually incorrect information that it's okay to prop them up and give them a pat on the head and say, well, it's okay because it's your pov?
as someone has posted, some come onto this board with an agenda to boost one league over another. fake news needs to be pointed out for those that are looking for guidance.
You suspect? You suspect shit, there are other weak DA’s, such as Mid-America and Northwest, are both not exactly lighting-it-up. Personally, I take pride in the region 1, which includes you PF and PDA jerk-offs, so welcome to the club!
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hey, no probs, no offense taken. fugget about it!
Nice to see 3 local teams in the top 5 Nationally, PDA DA is ranked 23rd, sorry.
https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club/teamrank/?periodId=870&genderId=f&groupId=4&ageName=u16
As predicted, ECNL is still the best. #1 in u16!
Any commitments yet at this age group? Or too early?
Bahahahaha, yes So Cal Blues number 1, but remember this is TopDrawer, who are the biggest ECNL shills ever, besides the DA teams are split 01/02, just good to see them acknowledge OUR local clubs, and even if your daughter does not play for the 3 mentioned, these are OUR local clubs, so have some Region1 pride.
Sooo.. the ranking is bad because topdrawer is skewed towards ECNL.. but its good because they have 3 teams from region 1 in top 5?
You are high.
Even when you look at a mix of YSR rankings across U16 and U17 you'd get 3 out of 5 top teams in ECNL... and no team from NY or NJ. There is pride and then there is brutal objective reality that sets in.
Socal blues is by far the best u16 in the country and probably better than any u16/17 da. They all stayed ecnl even though they all could be on DA teams. Next year you can see how the so cal blues DA team is still #1 when they all go da. My daughter has played with them at camps and lives playing with them. They are skilled and play fast.
I watched them in Chicago, not impressed, but some had nice tans! There were also too many who stayed out in the sun too long.
3:33 hate to pop the balloons being dropped but GDA is U17/U16 so really not a full U16 team to judge vs. other U16 teams. It's U19/18; U17/16, U15 and U14.
hey dude. someone already sent the alert. thanks though.
Your daughter has played with SOCal??? WTF are you doing on here?
No blogging on the left coast?
poster said played with the kids at camps.
My daughter plays on 1 of the 3 local Da teams mentioned in the list, and honestly, none of us care about that. All we want is our daughters to be recruited by the best schools, that’s it. Just like other leagues, we are also hoping for success come DA Playoffs, since we believe that will be an optimal scouting environment. Best of luck to SoCal Blues, and all the others!
what is all this YSR stuff? just checked older age groups to see how other club teams rank and they aren't even listed. how reliable if not really reliable.
How many games did they play? if under 10 they won't be listed. Which team are you looking for?
My daughter is going to the NYCFC evaluations on Friday, we saw them play against Oakwood, she was impressed, as was I, and that is very hard to admit.
4:35pm NYCFC parent looking to make his choice to play DA valid after seeing such a poor competition all year. Parents, players, coaches and college coaches all agree the level is below par.
My daughter plays for Quickstrike, but believe what you want, this will be a step-up for her.
6:14, poor ECNL parent, still wondering if his kids team will face the same dilemma, #Republicandistraction
Hearing a FREE DA and GDA coming to Central PA. If this is the case and Schulz is running the program you will NOT see players traveling to Baltimore and West Chester for GDA. It would also hit Classics very hard.
Rush has partnered with George Altirs and the ownership group in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to make its USL club the official professional team at the top of the Rush Soccer pyramid. The Harrisburg City Islanders, who have played in various versions of USL since 2004, will be rebranded as Penn FC beginning in the 2018 USL season, and the goal is for that club to serve as the first stop for players across the Rush soccer family.
“There’s now a professional path for our players,” Schulz told FourFourTwo USA. “The players currently there and the players who will get there from Rush, they are the role models for our 35,000 kids. … It’s a stepping stone for the players that are not quite ready for MLS or a team overseas. This would be a holding ground for our players at USL. One day, hopefully all of our players on first team will be from Rush clubs.”
“This is a great time to be a soccer fan in Pennsylvania,” said USL President Jake Edwards. “There is a lot of fantastic soccer history in Harrisburg, and the fans across the region have proven to be some of the most dedicated in the USL. Penn FC will build on the historic legacy of the City Islanders.”
Altirs, local owner Eric Pettis, and Rush Soccer — an international soccer organization comprised of 85 clubs in the U.S. and abroad — are a particularly exciting part of the new USL brand. Focused on player and product development, this group will elevate the level of professional soccer in the region and give Penn FC a unique position within the sport, putting the professional team at the top of the largest academy system in the world.
Led by Chairman Jérôme de Bontin, who previously served as Director of Ligue 1’s AS Monaco and General Manager at Major League Soccer’s New York Red Bulls, Rush Soccer has provided a major platform for players across the United States and overseas who will now have the potential to become Penn FC players of the future.
“It is difficult to imagine a professional soccer team without an academy — the academy is often referred to as the soul of the organization,” said de Bontin. “Rush Soccer has 40,000 members across the world, and by instilling their faith in us, Penn FC will have one of the largest networks in international soccer to scout from and hopefully develop into world class players for the professional team. Our President Tim Schulz and I have been pursuing a professional team for some time now, and have found it in Penn FC and George Altirs’ organization.”
Altirs will remain the majority owner of the club, but Rush aims to contribute financially in the future. For now, Rush gives Penn FC a wealth of youth partner clubs from which it can potentially benefit with “homegrown” players.
You might as well put the free DA and GDA in the middle of Death Valley, sorry, middle PA is worse than DV....
@11:15 am - was looking for older GDA teams. all of those teams have played over 10 games. all teams not listed. some still have their ECNL records showing. and that info is pretty easy to get. YSR doesn't seem to be able to find.
that is what I found previously, teams listed several times under different acronyms or names. better than GSP, but YSR still holes in it as well.
6:14 11/15 - ecnl parent i presume? how was Bethesda?
10:58 no need to use YSR for GDA. GDA is top of the pyramid they have a playoff system in place.
of course it does. But any errors can be fixed by anyone - just report the error and YSR will make the change.
How would ysr handle the multi year issue? Are the da u17? Or a new category. Not really apples to apples.
Agreed 12:24.
They are being added as U17 but who cares. Since they will never play non-da teams so using YSR to flight them or compare them will never be an issue. They should never be included in any compare conversation unless you are using another GDA team. Agree 100%.
10:31
You win the award for the stupidest thing I've read on here.
11:02 Couldn't have been better. Good warm-up for players. Lineup is solid
10:31 AM
Hershey, PA training location for new Penn FC Rush program. Very easy travel for Lancaster, Reading, Lebo and Harrisburg area kids. Some of those kids are traveling to Classics, Continental and PF now. Free DA, it's over, Central, PA kids will stay in Central, PA and will draw kids from other areas.
Yes, the LISC of Pennsylvania, enjoy!
4:37 wonderful. notice not trashing ECNL.
see, you can exchange compliments without being passive aggressive about one another's league choices. enjoy CASL as well.
Impressive coaches list from Lakewood Ranch, better than I had hoped...
We are looking to finish strong tomorrow, and begin to prepare for DA Showcase. The fall season progressed quickly, and here we are at the last game. The team is coming together nicely, but there is more to improve upon. Not that it matters to most, but we have forged a path for others to follow, and while there are many detractors, we are happy to be part of they brave new world....
Thanks for the update, cool DA dad.
Someone remind 12:53 that he is not actually "on" his daughter's team, lots of "we" talk
pays the bills. can "we" all he wants.
if his shrink says its healthy. who are "we" to argue.
That's all you got? Bashing me for saying we, really? That was the final straw, no more mister nice guy, we we we we, there.
"We have forged a path for others to follow, and while there are many detractors, we are happy to be part of they brave new world...." I could have bashed you for the cheesy, melo-dramatic comments and completely living through your kid but decided to just focus on the "we" talk. Next time I will be more specific.
Lets all be honest, if you are on this blog, you are living through your kid period. Including me hahahaha.
That's cool 7:48, we can't all be tragically poetic, like myself, but I am sure you can make a contribution to society, somehow. Just don't ask me for details, got nothing right now.
Oh, almost forgot, we are a farcbetter team than you guys, no doubt.
And yes farcbetter is a real word, look it up!
12:53 did you invent something or cure cancer, holy crap what an ego.
Soccer = Life.
GDA Showcase schedules are out, best of luck to all the clubs!
Cmon Mr. GDA it's not good luck to the club's it's good luck to the kids for recruiting right? Isn't that why they are there? Just ask you
No, I represent the corporate soccer club trust and loan, my only interest is the perpetuation of profits.
I want a CSA DA parent form the 01/02 team to chime in here. How does the team allow PF drop 8 goals on you????
Not from either team, but isn't CSA suffering from injuries to big players on that team?
Yes, and my dog ate my homework, again....
Why cant they bring in girls from other CSA teams. They have a ton!
In CSA's defense, PF has been tough to beat with most teams.
Dude Cedar Stars sucks! It’s PDA leftovers and girls that couldn’t get on PDA. They are equivalent to a Copa NPL team and always will be. NO ONE is getting recruited off of that train wreck.
I agree, PF is probably best team in Region1, but still 8 goals, is hard to defend, pardon the pun, ugh.
OTOH CSA U14 exceeds expectations every week. Other teams seem to be in the Meh category, though.
Go cedar star !! Is she recruited yet??? Lol
It's the best team in the conference against the one with the worst record. What did you expect? PF has had a few 1 or 2 goal games with middle and top of the conference teams.
They have been easily winning the games against the much lower ranked teams. I just don't get the posts. This was an expected score I would think.
Seems like more posters dislike CSA than they do PF.
Correction, I hate PF more, just for the record...carry on!
Curious...what is the main point for the gda for your daughter?
10:06, isn't it obvious, its to mock people like you, and your stupid questions, duh.
Disney only two NJ teams at U16? Looking at U17 few more up to 4? wow. Is it true coaches are not going? So CASL, Newss, and edp local events seem to be drawing Northeast teams. Disney is far and expensive, plus sacred holiday for all. usually family time. If playing at Newss that is different because Saturday Sunday.
If you're not top bracket, don't bother going
We’ve been to Disney twice, its too expensive and way overrated, not that many coaches last year, CASL is better bet, NEWSS is a waste of gas, and EDP tourneys are 3-rate now.
PF's crushing of VDA and CSA is not impressive. If they can pull out wins in Florida that will be impressive.
CSA is not impressive. Really? Not impressive? Lol they suck!! Worst team . Players and coaches are the worst around .
" not impressive " lol
There's obviously a clear distinction between the top teams and the lower teams. CSA not a whole lot worse than the other bottom tier.
Give the program a chance...
Its possible that in a few years CSA will be more competitive, but by then, my kid will be in college, sadly we live in an instant gratification society. Clubs like PF, PDA and NYCFC will always draw the best talent, but its their job to continue to be successful, which as we all know is neither simple, nor easy.
Sorry to say, GDA came too late for most on these blogs...joining the DA teams now is a waste of time unless your daughter is already on the NT radar.
Not everyone can drive to PF or PDA and join clubs that are top notch and will get the attention.
Big pic is the female side of soccer does not provide much for the highest percentage of oour girls!
Hell, you can be a boy and shoot to have Iceland and Senegal in the WC but not the US!!!
Money grab is all this is....
But no more money than the other leagues and clubs. Same or lower fees, similar or less travel. Just a different name.
How about if your kid has interest from colleges and she can't tell coaches whether she's on the roster for the game they want to observe?
Have heard this more than once from different clubs...
Then you picked the wrong insurance company, I mean soccer club. PDA has 24 girls on the 01/02 roster, but NYCFC has 17, sometimes you have to do some homework.
P.S. Stop bashing GDA, or I will banish from this blog, forever.
Disney, CASL, EDP and Newss. I agree Disney is over rated and CASL is better. It really depends on financial status and location of schools your girl may go to. If they are interested in Florida schools not bad option for Disney. Cost is ridiculous, including the entrance fee. At CASL you will get the college coaches, and many East coast schools because of location not being too far like Disney is. Also mid-west to CASL, again due to distance and cost for the recruiting process. EDP events are definitely 2nd tier, not 3rd tier. You still see some good teams, and great teams here and there. But since no ECNL or DA of course, it has become a low 2nd tier. BUT, still local, affordable and decent soccer, like league play. And fields typically pretty good at Tuckahoe. What a difference from 1-3 years ago when the top teams were at EDP tournaments. Newss is fine, I see ecnl teams and it is local for most of us, not too expensive, no flight. And northeast coaches all come to newss, that is a fact!
7:49 I agree, these other programs will get better in time. about the ones you named, it's easy when as you say they draw top talent. it's the kids don't let anyone fool you. the top talent would flourish anywhere. and all you need is a little success and kids/parents will appear.
8:40 sounds like a bubble player. that can be tough. may not see time unless score warrants or weaker competition. if you want more playing time, may need to move to different club where she may be the big fish in a small pond.
12:01 fields were terrible. grass is nice, but it was too high to play good soccer. was like being in chicago with the slow fields.
@12:16, the 2nd day they should cut them. agreed. I believe they cut on Friday. Then should cut again after games on Saturday or something. Because it is turf and well managed it grows quickly. I just think about the torn ligaments due to over use on the artificial turf.
12:07
Not a bubble player, she plays but coach has this "thing" with not publishing who will play more than 1 day ahead...control thing
Best of luck to the players heading to Orlando this week for the showcase.
12:48 so if she plays and is not a bubble player then should be playing a lot of minutes and games so not sure why the complaining.
Dude, you have your dates mixed-up, the Florida showcase is 12/6-12/10, in Lakewood Ranch, Florida. That is about 3 hours from Orlando. Please check with your coach, but try not to hurt his feelings...
12:48 is complaining because his kid plays for NYSC, and if I were him I would be in tears already....
5:01 Disney is this week, in Orlando.
5:01 there are other teams than DA....
Disney is this weekend for other girls who are not as good as your daughter!
Happy thxgiving, I bet you're a joy at your gathering...if you were invited..
You guys, so easy to take the bait, relax, no harm meant. It's just competitive razing, similar to siblings in a way! All the best to our ECNL, NPL, and USYS friends this Thanksgiving.
Here is a special prize for you all 🥉
Nice try...you're just a clueless pompous ass
Speaking of ass, you’re wife sure has a nice one!
Now now children, settle down
"your" not "you're":)
Happy turkey day!
Only 3 out of 10 Americans would know that, are you my old English teacher??? You should be about 90 by now, how is the arthritis treating you?
haha. not the op.
sad but true. although my daughter knows as well. good parenting and excellent teachers.
you're is a contraction for you are (you're right) and your denotes possession always followed by a noun. your name; your wife; your car.
that must be a real challenge; reading the SAT essay responses from kids that communicate in either smiley faces or 140 characters +/-. terrible.
Anyone have any creative recruiting advice, such as when the coaches are at your games. Was thinking of slipping them a Benjamin with my kids name, any other great suggestions????
Anyone have any insight into NY Surf Club on the girls side?
Thx
Yes, I have extensive insight into NY Surf, and from my professional experience, they suck ass, a lot.
@2:26
ah, ok.
Whats bad about them? anything good? or best to go to other clubs in the area?
thx
Just another club, nothing special, they are trying to glean success from the mothership in SD. I know the guy who owns the club, and while he is not a bad guy, the people around him are morons.
This is a crowded landscape, lots of options, NY Surf always knew the market was tough, between WC, NYSC, FURY, EM, and SUSA to name a few. NY Surf are a presence, and an option, they should merge, maybe buy SUSA, and get GDA, that would be huge.
SUSA is building a nice little base on LI, how great would it be to see Surf banners flapping there??
Because that is exactly what is needed, another GDA in NY. Unfortunately, USSF gave the emblems out like they were handing out cookies in that area. No one was refused.
Your, or You're, point is vague, write slowly...not getting a feel
LISC would have to fold first Professor, and I really really really believe there needs to be a rival for Peter Paul and Scary.
Have to blame the parents all but one or two players on that team dont belong on a DA team.
There has to be a second GDA in NJ. There are too many quality players, perhaps NJ Rush would field more competitive teams? You have to figure they have decent NL teams, not a stretch to see them switch, plus there is no conflict with ECNL.
Youth soccer is a billion dollar a year business with everyone clawing their way up no matter who they step on in the process. You talk crap about other clubs to help benefit your situation. Stop bashing other clubs, coaches, players, and leagues and be thankful that you child is healthy and that soccer has helped give your little one an opportunity for higher education with less student debt. All of our kids will need good jobs with great medical benefits to pay for reconstructive surgeries from years of chasing GS points.
The girls will be fine, but I think you are the one that needs some surgery, after all the food you ate yesterday, have you no decency?
CSA will stay no matter what you guys say because they have a national team coach on staff and deep pockets. They have 2 clubs in Boys DA and will probably add another GDA affiliate soon.
That may be true but cedar stars lacks the talented players and the quality coaching staff that they have on the boys side.
Local GDA grades:
PF A
PDA B-
NYCFC B+
CSA F-
NYCFC plays in a marshmallow division. Difficult to judge until the showcase playing well with the cards they got so far.
I got a fish, hello little fishy, hello!
That being said, I agree the league is not a huge challenge, and I also agree about Florida being a great barometer.
I heard they had some injuries toward the end of the season* hopefully they will still remain competitive in the oppressive Bradenton humidity, love me some mosquitoes!
*Little bird told me....
Yea. All teams go through injuries.
We, I mean they, have been very fortunate overall. The core of this team was decimated last year, had to bring-up NPL and EDP girls to fill slots, not good in the ECNL league.
Tough to post the 2001 in a 2002 forum. But... Congrats to SJEB for besting 3 GDA teams at Disney in the 2001/2002 age group.
http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=60326&Gender=Girls&Age=0
2:15, totally agree, except they only played 1 DA team, and tied that team 1-1, but other than that great job!!
2:15 why? So many posts on this 2002 board reference the GDA teams which are mostly 2001s this year. Next year it will be 2003s and 2002s and the 2001s will be with 2000s. This is why the GDA needs it's own board, but that will never happen. ECNL had their own board - but easier to recruit from main board. They want a closed league but don't want to post on their own league's board? Why? So they can recruit more of us dummies
who is using this board to recruit? it's about sharing information at this age group for all the leagues, including ECNL, GDA, USYS, US Club, etc. the paths are different but the end game is the same.
the families need to choose the paths/the leagues based on whatever fits their needs. but the universal discussions about college recruiting, academics needed, etc. are all the same.
yeah, right the newest soccer craze, league envy. hahaha what a crew. i agree. it's nice to see the differences and the similarities in all the leagues.
5:09
so if my kid is U16 and playing up in any league ECNL, USYS or NPL, i should find a different board? It's about the age of the player not where she plays. and that's not just GDA.
The 2001 and 2002 SJEB/Rush teams are no joke. Some serious players on both teams. Both did well in Florida this weekend. Nice warm up for NL Showcase in North Carolina starting this Thursday. These are games that count.
5:30 if your kid is playing U17 anything posted about the team should be on that forum, no?
Why would you post her U17 results or how good a team is on a U16 board?
5:21 many use these boards to recruit. Don't be blind (maybe not you). Why post GDA stuff on a non GDA board when you have a DA board? You have more things in common with the BDA than the non GDA teams, except to show how great it is and how green the grass is. Keep pretending their are no shills.
Same goes for the ECNL teams
the blog says U16 not U16 USYS or US Club. it's age specific not league. and it because the age groups share insight about what's going on re college recruiting and maybe add'l training and maybe upcoming tourneys. I could care less about bragging re the results. that's for her club to do.
Meanwhile over at the NEWSS tourney on LI, 2 ECNL teams, EMSC and WNY go down in the flight final to NPL teams, ouch....! I know these are not juggernaut teams, but still, the purge continues...
why are you judging based on leagues? as you said not juggernaut teams. a weak team is a weak team; league notwithstanding.
Massapaqua team who won nationals at U15 won Newss. Not surprised, obviously a great team. Otherwise big dissapointment for Jersey teams, Boca almost made it, but lost to that Rowdies team. Albertson lost players to DA, same as Wildcats and both of their demise continue.
Mass is not a great team, So Cal Blues is a great team, Mass is good, but thats it....
Eagles are great. Steelers are good, that's it...
Yes, except they are both from Pennsylvania, so they both suck.
haha okay. so, it's better to have NY teams that practice & play in NJ. The NY Jets and Giants; home field NJ.
I thought gda teams were not allowed to play non gda events. Am I wrong?
Yeah, I thought that too, maybe because its a sanctioned National Tournament, but honestly have no clue.
I was wondering as well:
http://www.ussoccerda.com/overview-academy-structure
"Outside Activity/Competition
Academy players and teams cannot play in any outside competitions without written permission from the Development Academy staff. This includes any other leagues, high school season, tournaments, State Cup competitions, ODP or All-Star events. There are two potential exceptions to this rule, provided they are approved by Development Academy staff:
Domestic and international tournaments: Domestic & international tournaments may be permitted if they meet Academy's technical standards of one game per day and elite competition. Examples of permitted events include the Dallas Cup, Surf Cup, Disney Showcase, and other International events
Possibility for friendly games: Academy clubs can schedule friendly games to provide players with a heightened development experience. The games must not be part of an organized competition (i.e. tournament, league or camp) as defined in the non-participation regulations, and all competitions must adhere to all Academy standards and guidelines."
DA teams cannot play ECNL teams or other showcases outside the DA
Yeah, well maybe someone should of told FC Virginia that, because they played against non-DA teams last weekend.
It clearly says they can play other teams if the format and competition follows DA rules. Middle paragraph explicitly mentions Disney. We’ve all seen Surf results from the summer where some ECNL teams played DA teams.
reading and comprehension - just wasted on some it seems. thank you for clarifying.
Reading, writing and comprehension are a beautiful thing...
Hey 3:16..."should of" or "should've", abb for "should have"...?
did everyone move to talking soccer blog?
no some moved to academy blog on this site.
The Academy blog is just about the boys, I think this blog has peaked, the glory days are gone. I miss the Wildcats comments, the Match Fit hater, the various characters, GS guy, PDA apologist, Crush copter, NYSC guy, yep u13 were the glory days....
5:59 - it was one and the same split-personality person that discovered meds.
Haha, maybe one or two, but the majority were real people, some them were really great, soccer nut was always the voice of reason, miss his opinions, alas such is life, hope he is doing well where ever he is!
peaked? this is U16. so much more to experience and many, many more tourneys to complain about. NL going on now, CASL this weekend and then DA next week.
Is it me or is the CASL college list at least 2x bigger than the GDA showcase?
https://soccer.sincsports.com/TTCollegeList.aspx?tid=CASL3&tab=10&sub=2&sYear=2017
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTqx10q4Zl8INgJ2lrCdc53RasxpzmGuv9jdoObWbHJVbNzGKKVzzTwVMMSFK3tJrIBXJvSoIFGOEWg/pubhtml?embedded=true%20headers=false#
It's you.
11:44 Don't let numbers fool you.
The CASL list for coaches is bigger but there are many more teams playing, way more locations, and too many fields. The ratio is better at DA because it is all at one location with only about 20 fields. CASL does have a good number of D1 schools but most are small and not in top of national ranking. There are plenty of D2-D3 schools if that is what you are looking for. Every kid plays at a different level and every coach has different expectations. The biggest difference is that the DA event will have every US National Team scout (U-14 through U23) in attendance.
You are comparing apples to oranges.
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at CASL
5. UCF
7. West Virginia
9. Princeton
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at DA
2. North Carolina
3. South Carolina
4. Duke
5. UCF
6. Texas A&M
7. West Virginia
9. Princeton
10. Penn State
12. Texas
13. Pepperdine
14. Notre Dame
15. South Florida
16. Florida State
18. Southern California
19. Florida
20. Tennessee
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at CASL
5. UCF
7. West Virginia
9. Princeton
Top 20 NCAA Women's Soccer D1 at DA
2. North Carolina
3. South Carolina
4. Duke
5. UCF
6. Texas A&M
7. West Virginia
9. Princeton
10. Penn State
12. Texas
13. Pepperdine
14. Notre Dame
15. South Florida
16. Florida State
18. Southern California
19. Florida
20. Tennessee
There is a NT (Great) player who plays ECNL at my daughters club, and I simply do not understand why, am I slow? The other night the ECNL team was practicing right next to the DA teams, and I saw her looking over to the DA side, as if she were distracted, was a little obvious, hahaha, maybe she was bored? I don’t know the family, but she looks too fast, and too sharp, to be on that side of the border.
#Thedarksideawaits
8:22 personal choices
Simple
She likes school ball and made a choice.
Its a good thing that there are 5 open spots on a roster. Never too late to change your mind.
Not exactly sure what kid/club you are talking about, but if its WCFC I know the family, and they chose to stay ECNL because her talent supercedes any USSF mandate to play GDA. And like someone has already stated, its a personal choice, wish her and the team the best!
1:43pm do add the level for GDA is not comparable to ECNL for the older girls. There is a major drop off. Younger age group's for GDA in my opinion my be better in a few years. Just not now
1:43PM do add the GDA level of players are not at the level of ECNL for the older age groups. I believe the younger GDA players will have a better option in a few years tho. You can debate this, listen to college coaches. when my daughter is being recruited all coaches are in agreement of above statement. My Kid does not belong to ECNL or DA, plays for a very good NPL team
you have to compare GDA to Sanford ECNL. CASL is just a showcase tournament. Not a major event like GDA or ECNL
4:44
not true in every conference. most high level kids are playing GDA in most conferences; not all, but most. read the rosters. compare with the high level kids out there. most are doing GDA.
Above not true we had notre dame wisc indiana georgetown and other major d1 coaches at our casl games in top flight. At main site over 50 overall at game. 6yesterday
I am a head-coach of a major D1 University, and my staff, and I, are only scouting GDA players.
7:58 doesn't mean good coaches won't go to CASL style events, too, especially in this first year. means that some may not.
Stanford v UCLA in Sunday's College Cup final.
For the parents on the GDA 02/01 and 00/99 consist of mainly 2nd tier players. yes there are some good teams at GDA but the overall product is subpar. You can post what you want, the overall conversations with coaches express same sentiments. I can use Albertson or FC Fury, this team barely qualified for ECNL Showcase, in the DA this team is a top of the standings. This point alone provides fact the league is subpar. My kid is on Albertson ECNL, we choose not to go for this reason. Plus I know our club and our neighbor club, the players on the ECNL are being heavily recruited and the GDA majority of them are not being contacted at all.
Until ECNL plays some serious ball, the coaches will be blowing smoke.
So far, based on Newss and Disney - it looks like NPL teams were able to catch up to ECNL. So, Albertson's 0-5 loss to Maximus suggests that it wasnt the 2nd tier players. Same thing with EMSC losses to Susa and Massapequa.
I don’t believe you’re with Albertson, but if you are, my condolences.
8:22. Definitely not talking about WCFC player. She nor any player on that ECNL team is looking at the GDA session "distracted" or "bored". You'll see why in June
8:22. Definitely not talking about WCFC player. She nor any player on that ECNL team is looking at the GDA session "distracted" or "bored". You'll see why in June
I sure hope there were a lot of coaches at the top U16 group at CASL to see the kitty Keats and McLean match. Ouch :)
Kats
LOL Kitty Cats!!!! Yeah your kids are getting recruited!! 10-0 what an embarrassment!
1:03 okay, sure. hit your alarm clock. you're dreaming again. you talk about your 00 team from last year. I am sure the GDA team has kids from your 99 team. that team was good. combine it with good players from 00 and you have a winning team. that's not hard to imagine. many teams are experiencing that.
and, why would you doubt the success of your own club. only proves what a tool/hater you really are.
Sorry she is on the 02s team. No we are not the same club. We are treated separately. Look at the 02/01 girls on DA, not much traction from colleges. Our 2002 ECNL has traction. yes our team made the showcase barely, good to go yes. Same players, now in first. REally?
what are you talking about? I know GDA kids from 01/02 that are getting plenty of interest. i'm not saying you are mistaken about your ecnl team and interest, as I am sure there is interest there as well. but there are plenty of clubs that are getting very good interest with their GDA teams.
U need to esplain why the 02 ECNL team sucks first. Then u can trash GDA.
heard there are people that come on these boards to try to recruit to their leagues. sounds like that poster wants ECNL recruits. don't pick a league because an anonymous poster said it's the place to be. do your homework and pick it because it fits the needs of your child and family. that's my 2 cents.
834pm you are validating my point. Our team is average at best last year and this year. Somehow same players move to DA and now they are great. First place etc. nothing changed. Same training same players. Logical answer is league is not very good.
you sound bitter; in particular as you indicated that you/your kid's team isn't the same club because you're treated differently. classic, but your not bitter, right?
maybe they are playing better with a few new better players and don't need to play those mudders that stayed doing ECNL.
instead you say, well the entire league isn't good because you don't believe that kids can improve. enjoy your lemons.
just chiming re GDA over ECNL, my kid likes that there aren't wholesale substitutions of entire lines going on so there is less disruption as far as flow of play. the kids take it more seriously as far as training we have found. they seem closer as a team. maybe the extra trainings are doing it.
so, not finding GDA to be any worse than ECNL or USYS. her team has played some good teams, some very good teams and some not so good. but as another poster added, in most conferences the better or high level players are playing GDA.
I have to debate that. I know over an overwhelming high end players not playing DA. Problem is players on DA beleive they are the better players, players on the ECNL believe they are better. I have seen over 20 DA games, sorry I would lean towards ECNL right now. Could change in a few years by this time our girls are long gone.
overwhelming number not playing? right. check the rosters. most are playing GDA; SOME are not. you can believe whatever you want. btw the earth isn't flat either; although some still believe it is.
overwhelming number not playing? right. check the rosters. most are playing GDA; SOME are not. you can believe whatever you want.
if you're in a weak conference, i can understand. but if you've played pda, fc va, pf, mi hawks, cincinnati, orlando, tophat, courage, real co, etc. maybe you would think differently. i have seen about 20 as well with these teams and i think it's a good product especially in it's first year. i remember the first year for ECNL. very, very weak. this isn't weak because it has a lot of top players in it already. ECNL had to get the player's trust. GDA had the backing of USSF already.
its all pretty much the same except your DA costs are 6 to 7000 a year, you have to haul it 3 to 5 hours for many of these matches, and you can't enjoy playing high school ball something which is great for the college admissions office...
other than that, its awesome.
Sorry to disagree, but her DA costs are less than the ECNL team, in both tuition and tournament play, about 3K less. However, there are some DA clubs like NYSC, who will gladly fleece their families.
P.S. Pushing HS school soccer as an advantage smacks of stupidity and desperation.
6:29 hs soccer is an advantage in college admissions? hilarious. keep shoveling it.
if your application is being supported by the soccer team and athletic dept with admissions you only need good grades. the dog and pony show isn't necessary. and, pretty sure the soccer team and athletic dept would rather you have US Soccer DA than high school. hs is nice for your hs, but holds no real value in collegiate soccer. case in point, girls from CASL team (many committed to top programs) directed to play GDA and not hs. story on this a few months back. if I can find, i'll post for your review.
not saying don't do hs. it's a choice like anything else, but you certainly don't need it for college in particular any good college program.
agree with 6:55; have paid less for DA than ECNL and USYS (my kid's old USYS team did every tournament imaginable it seemed chasing stupid unnecessary GS point). Zero value in GSP.
but it's not for everybody. you have to go to the league that works for you and your family. and doing or not doing hs is part of it.
now that hs is over, some kids may be rethinking their prior choice.
http://realcolorado.net/ecnl-and-the-us-soccer-da/
food for thought. a club that has both and is well respected in the soccer world for boys and girls. lists the differences. considers DA it's top team and while girl can decide to play ECNL if picked for GDA, she can not decide to play GDA if picked for ECNL. kind of puts it into perspective what some top clubs feel about GDA and the type of player required. btw - if you know their top players, you would know they are doing GDA not ECNL.
they have a number of girls in the YNT camp this week that will be playing friendlies during the GDA showcase events.
Michigan and so cal national team players playing ecnl
saw a Hawks/GDA game where AS & IV (YNT) - u18/19 active gda rosters - played. so not sure about others, but i know older gals are doing GDA.
2002 players are on ecnl
2002 national players playing ecnl
further - NV - hawks - U18/19 GDA; ML - hawks - U16/17 GDA
and more...
just saying....
the above poster was saying most high level players not in GDA in particular in older groups. that is being disputed. and these findings only help to solidify it.
it seems that more younger YNT kids may not be in GDA, but in the older groups, it seems most are in GDA vs not in it.
All these posts are great but all you need to do is post YOUR experience.
Yours doesn't mean the other's is wrong, just different.
Do we have children posting on here?
Better hope your kid is not being recruited for the parents' maturity level....
Hawks had strong enough 01 to go all 01 at DA. They are struggling at the DA level. The biggest issue is that some teams are playing together for the first time vs teams that have been together a long time. Their 02 team is just ok I assume they lost a couple kids to other DAs although the nat team player that just signed with Duke is very good. For an 02 they will be challenged regardless because they are playing against a lot of 01s. Eyeballing the rosters looked to be 01 75%/25% 02.
My take is that there will be more very good teams on DA than Ecnl. But there will be more very bad teams in both. The average team in ECNL is weaker than last year (it cant possibly be better after losing some top kids to DA). But you still have some very good teams like socal in ecnl.
There are 4 types of DA teams
Giant clubs that try to do it all. All seem to be struggling somewhere.
Ecnl teams that are now DA.
National League top teams that are now DA.
Other clubs that are now DA.
This week will be telling to see how good/bad the northeast DA teams are. I suspect that is the region with the most bad teams.
8:52 are you saying just because someone else posts factually incorrect information that it's okay to prop them up and give them a pat on the head and say, well, it's okay because it's your pov?
as someone has posted, some come onto this board with an agenda to boost one league over another. fake news needs to be pointed out for those that are looking for guidance.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/2017-girls-club-map#northeast
12:00 - agreed. and wasn't sure which clubs were considered northeast so found and added link for reference. seems like it's NY, CT, MASS, etc. clubs.
You suspect? You suspect shit, there are other weak DA’s, such as Mid-America and Northwest, are both not exactly lighting-it-up. Personally, I take pride in the region 1, which includes you PF and PDA jerk-offs, so welcome to the club!
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