No schedules at this point is a joke.
Schedule is finally out and it looks like another winning weekend for the PDA teams.
Youth Soccer Rankings USA region 1 top 2540.04 MCLEAN YOUTH ECNL (VA)39.73 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION (MD)38.68 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 38.53 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE)38.43 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 38.42 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)38.39 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)38.38 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)38.33 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE NPL (NYE)38.15 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)37.78 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)37.73 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) 37.39 BEACH FC RED (VA) 37.38 SUSA ELITE (NYE)37.37 EAST MEADOW SC MEADOW (NYE)37.35 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)37.24 FC FREDERICK FREDERICK (MD) 37.21 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ) 37.14 EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER (NYW)37.11 NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE (NYE)37.08 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) 37.08 PITTSBURGH RIVERHOUNDS ACADEMY (PAW)37.06 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)36.99 VIRGINIA RUSH RUSH (VA) 36.97 NEW YORK SURF SC LI (NYE)
There is just no way to comment on these rankings. Dont know which players are where.But I will say it is a HOOT that NY Surf LI is ranked at all.
NEWSS should add some teams to these rankings as will CASL & NL Showcase the following week and PA Classics the week after that. Plus we still have NPL Showcase and Disney to name a few more. NY Surf is a pick-em vs every team below BRYC. Keep in mind a few of the rankings are a little lower because they have some 0-3 forfeits included based on the website.
And for those that like Gotsoccer below are your Region 1 top 25Keepin mind some teams used u14 accounts while others used u15 accountshard to say what we are looking at here. This will take 12 months to iron itself out1. BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/022. NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL3. PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) 4. SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACAD6. HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/027. NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS - DELETE8. STA 2001G NPL9. WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES 10. ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL11. SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP12. NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL13. GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT14. BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 0115. CENTURY V 01 GOLD 16. NEW YORK SURF SOCCER 18. SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA 200119. PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL20. SUSA ISA NPL G0121. SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT22. NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE23. SUSA ELITE G0124. PIPELINE SC BLACK25. MCLEAN ECNL
Just for the record any u15 account used from last season is illegal in my view. As no players born in 2000 can be U16 this season but they were on the u15 rosters that accumulated the Gotsoccer points. Gotsoccer dropped the ball here.
2016-17 National League - starts up in 2 weeksBlackNationals Union 01 Black (MI)Beadling 2001 Elite (PA-W)FCKC Academy Blues Elite (MO)Florida Elite 2001 (FL)TFA Elite 01 (OH-S)Fullerton Rangers 01 White (CA-S)SLSC Comos 01 Lawless (OK)PacNW 01 Maroon (WA)BlueGreater Binghamton FC (NY-W)FC Frederick 01 (MD)Michigan Jaguars 01 Green (MI)2001 Tennessee SC Showcase (TN)LFSA Select (IL)Legends FC 01 (CA-S)TFCA 01 Alliance (NC)La Roca Premier FD (UT)RedBRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA)1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)CUP Gold 01 (OH-S)Lonestar 01 TCL Composite (TX-S)Midwest United FC 01 Royal (MI)FC Elk Grove 02 Platinumn 1 (CA-N)United FA 01 Premier (GA)Celtic FC Premier SA (UT)WhiteKings Hammer Academy Red (KY)Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)Nationals Unions 01 Red (MI)FC Alliance 01 (TN)EGA 01 Maroon Omaha (NE)Legends FC 01 Academy 01 CSA Charlotte Predator (NC) USA Stars 01 (CA-N)
Got soccer did not drop the ball here. The rules were changed on them. The situation you describe with last year u15 earning points with 2000 players exists in all age groups. You can't just reset the entire system back to zero. Remember that points expire 12 months after the event took place so if you don't perform this year then points will go away and you will get poor results and all will be normalized in a few months.
8:41 I am not saying resetting anything. I'm saying this is a 2001 or U16 board. No results using 2000 players should ever be used by any tournament to compare to teams that used 2002 players 1 or the other.Look at this age group NJ Stallions, Premier SC and NJ Elite to name a few were nowhere near the top of last year's U14 rankings their results couldn't hold water. So by taking their older team's results and comparing them to the younger teams they look stronger. All the teams were unknowns and since they didn't want to start over pick ONE is all i'm saying no mixing and because they allowed mixing they dropped the ball in my opinion.I agree in 12 months all will be fixed but until then some teams will be in lower flights and others in higher flights based on the accounts they used potentially because there is no way to know what teams are today.
NJ Elite won their bracket in EDP Winter Showcase last year as well as their bracket in NEWSS. The team was made up of mostly 01s with a few very good 00s. They were in the top 10 according to Got Soccer by November of 2015 and have remained there since. If your team is playing in a lower flight because of this ranking system then they should be able to win the majority of those tournaments and gradually work their way back up. Look at IGFA 01 and 00 teams. IGFA was made up of mostly 00 that are now U17 but their 01 team who is currently ranked 15 according to Got Soccer will have to build their way up. Which I'm sure they will.
Rankings have zero meaning. Just play the game in front of you and things will work out in the end.
Makes sense 7:32But when results using totally different players (see Surf) are counted the entire system is flawed, so what's one more skewed factor?
8:12IGFA will use their '01s from the U17 to play in U16 games. Thus keeping both ranks high as possible.I have never liked his style - or we might be there right now. Good team though.
8:30Unfortunately lower rank could mean lower bracketTop brackets get more college coach's eyes, generally.
9:25 I'm not familiar with this situation, so i can't comment. If the team had turnover players leaving an new ones coming in -there should be no issue. My issue is with teams that used 2000 girls in their rankings. 8:30 I agree mean nothing - but for some events it does (and it really does). The software will place teams then the event will manually adjust - how do you manually adjust when every team is a unknown? You just let the software place teams and see who complains right?10:25 I agree9:34 The club must not be very strong and don't get a big turnout - I'm guessing they do that for every age not just 2001s. If it's just the 2001 good for them then. More games played more chances to be seen.
If you are playing UP, 12:37 (2001 playing with 2000s), you should stay up. Micromanaging game/tournament rosters is not god for the morale of the players - when a player from the team above takes their playing time.Teams using ECNL players for NPL games, but in the same age group is one thing. Playing across age groups is a differnt animal.
At this age it's all about showcasing yourself not winning and losing.
League games lead to berths in championships, so scores do matter for being "seen".
4:54 Yes and No.Showcase yourself 100% - playing to win 100% - no coach want's to see a player hold the ball to long and miss an opportunity to score just so they can do a step over and then give the ball away that leads to a goal going the other wayleague games like GDA/ECNL/NPL/NL/ERL or NCS and US Club state cups all lead to a championship so they all matter to be seen I agreeShowcase events are to showcase players - Some teams carry large rosters and give playing time to players who normally don't play to showcase - while other teams showcase their strong players because that's the only time they can. The better team that day always wins - only people looking to make an excuse bring up it's not about the results because that's what they are all about. Everybody knows a showcase is about the players.Teams using ECNL players to take away playing time from NPL players is just as wrong as players playing down in their level to take away time from someone. If this is a free no problems but when people are paying over 2k, the players at the bottom of a roster should should pay less since they don't play as much. But just like the soccer pyramid we have it upside down.
I find it foolish to think that your daughter playing on a crappy team doesn't play a part in recruiting process. Coaches are going to be drawn towards good teams. Your daughter MUST contact and definitely request coaches!!
I agree 8:26 but how do we translate "good teams"ECNL? National League? NPL? ERL? Super Y? Youth Soccer rankings USA? Gotsoccer? TopDrawer? so many teams so many opinions. ODP vs id2 vs Super Y ODP vs nextgen vs showcase teams that travel to europe. So many options? How do these coaches define a good team?I agree contact the schools and the rest is out of their hands. With all the coaches on the sidelines how do the team coaches know who's there and who are they there to watch and for how long? Are they on the field or are they getting a rest? People try to make it so black and white but there are so mmany other colors
It's not the coach's responsibility to know who is there. Team manager as well as other parents who hand out the team's pamphlets need to take down names of coaches.If a player emailed a coach and the coach is there to see a player, if they went through the effort to be there, they wont leave until they see that player. Maybe not for the whole game and probably only a half but interested coaches will stay to watch.Team manager says at the end of the weekend who was there to see the team and all players whether they contacted the coach or not can write them back.
Showcasing versus winning. Not playing to win. Listen, we play top bracket and have for years. Now U16 of course, and an 02. We were at FC Delco top bracket at U11. So been around the block. OF COURSE YOU PLAY TO WIN, EVEN AT A SHOWCASE, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The whole point is to win in college. Sure, be at top bracket and lost 3-0. If you are college coach what team and players do you want, the 3 or 0. Really think about it. It is always about winning at U12 and up lets say for any sport in travel.
10:56 I'm confused. This is a showcase event. Doesn't the coach control playing time?Players can write college coaches all they want the college coach still can't respond back to the players in this age group.
Thank you 8:30. You win for best post of the day. PDA teams are really the only teams with high rankings that could be considered legit. Even with the birth year change, the quality of their players at each age group will keep the teams playing at a high level.
Evening all.Just wanted to post our daughters experience in the College recruiting process so far - as much to show that you don't have to be on a top team to get the interest at college level.Our daughter is on the club's B team and has been emailing coaches from D1-D3 schools (she is a freshman at High School) and already has 5 colleges tracking her (1 D1, 1 D2 and 3 D3). At no stage, of the early, process has she been relying on the club or college coaches ot find her and has been treating the process almost like a job. Identifying and emailing coaches from colleges she is interested in.We have also put together a 2 minute montage of her play that she has emailed out and has attended 2 ID camps. The D1 school have told her followig the ID camp that they are very interested in her already and we have been invited for an unofficial visit in the New Year. they have been mightily impressed with her maturity, persistence and work ethic.I guess all I am really saying is that if your kid is diligent, hard working and with some talent good colleges are not just the remit of the ECNL/DA teams. But it does rely on the kids themselves being very proactive and initially casting the net far and wide.
12:30D3 can respond back
"If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?” - Vince Lombardi.
So a day before the tournament starts, PDA Shore Fusion moves out of the Elite Red Bracket down to the premier bracket (not that brackets mean anything at this point)? Just wondered why? Especially if no knows who's good and who's not.
Who did they swap with? You're giving half the story.
Some results for those that like results as these teams will now have youth soccer ranking scores.0 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE4 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL0 STA 2001G NPL 5 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL0 UNIONVILLE MILIKEN UMSC OPDL 010 YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS PREMIER 01' BANSHEES2 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES0 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL 2001 0 KING UNITED SC KING CITY ROYALS3 PRINCETON SA IGFA 01 NPL3 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTHEAST NPL 20010 LEVITTOWN SUPERSONICS 1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP3 FC STARS ECNL 011 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 ECNL 1 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 20010 NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NS ELITE 1 FSA FC GIRLS ECNL 01
Sorry forgot the surf cup2 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL1 BROOMFIELD BLAST 01 GIRLS PRESTIGE (CO)
Also, any reason why Boca-Manalapan pulled out of the Top Division (Red) even if it was the B bracket, all the way to the 4th Division (Elite White) and the also the B bracket? Obviously they believe they probably can't compete at the top level, but why not give it a try - you never know. Instead they drop SIX levels???Not what I want for my kid. Pretty weak in my opinion.
1:26 again only half the story - who replaced them? and what other changes were made - you pointed out PDA Shore and now Boca? Who replaced them, you must know since you know they went down? 37.59 Region 1 #20 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ)The #20 team is 1.69 goals better than Boca and 3.59 goals better that PDA36.10 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JUNIOR FC ELITE MANALAPAN (NJ)34.07 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE FUSION (NJ)The tournaments use Gotsoccer and Youth Soccer rankings to name a few. Nothing wrong with those teams being moved down. Colleges want to see close games.
2:16 Those two post about teams pulling out of brackets are from two different posters (I'm the one from Nov 25). What does it matter who switched with them?With the birth year change, one is really sure of what team they may be facing anyway. Its not just that they switched out of the initial bracket (if they want to move down, that's fine), its just that all the other teams times were switched around on Friday. Is that fair to all the other teams in the bracket? First it took Newss forever to get the schedule out, then they change it on Friday to please two teams? Your sounding a little bit like a tournament official.
BOCA mommy and daddy manager and coach are worried about exits from their team. They looked ordinary at Hammonton last week. The age group change does not look like a good thing for that team. Mommy and daddy only worried about their kids anyway which is why they guest play with other teams and do things with a select few from the team "in secret." If you are not mommy or daddy's coach/manager kid are they really looking after your kid getting to college? Do these 2 know 100 college coaches? Will they be an advocate for your kid? NONONO
Wow lots of hate to the BOCA team ? I suspect this is the same parent who used to slam us before his kid was invited back to the team a few years ago. Big mistake then. The kid brought absolutely nothing to the game. Now that you once again were not invited back you are back to slamming us. Get a life. Your kid never was a good soccer player. Go join the swim team.
I'm just impressed that his kid is getting looked at by over 100 college coaches because their coach says they know that many. Psssst, hey buddy, I'be got these genuine Rolex watches for sale..........
Stallions may have played a weaker team by traveling the distance
What tournament are you referencing (the above scores)? Thanks!
2 COASTAL FC 01F (canadia) 1 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL 3 FC STARS ECNL 011 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY 2001 ECNL1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP0 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 20010 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 20013 FC STARS ECNL 018 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY 2001ECNL1 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 20014 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY 2001 ECNL2 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP1 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 ECNL 0 NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NPL0 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 20011 NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NPL1 BRUNO UNITED FC GIRLS 2001 RED 1 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL 0 BRUNO UNITED FC GIRLS 2001 RED1 FSA FC GIRLS ECNL 011 FSA FC GIRLS ECNL 010 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL
Updated region 1 Youth Soccer ranking scores (top 20) going into this big weekend in NC (CASL and the National League Showcase)40.83 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION (MD)40.66 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) 39.62 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)39.21 FC STARS ECNL (MA)39.14 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)39.14 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 38.88 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME38.86 FC STARS NPL (MA) 38.75 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS 38.71 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) 38.67 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)38.66 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)38.53 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) 38.41 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) 38.32 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)38.16 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) 38.10 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) 38.06 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE)38.05 PRINCETON SA IGFA NPL (NJ)38.01 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM NPL (NJ)
6:02 - - Nope, sorry - i don't know what or who you are talking about.Just noticed the big sidestep of a competitive group to a easy group.Seemed pretty pathetic.My kid played in the top bracket and yours didn't.
Boca/Manalapan/NJCSA. Did they win? I see in finals. And like I have always said. "What bracket are you in?" That makes a huge difference for sure at showcase events. Why would a coach bother with lower bracket teams. They are busy enough looking at 16-18 players in top brackets.
I am sure they would not have scored a goal, and they would have surrendered plenty in the top division.I am embarrassed for them, and if my kid was unfortunate enough to play there... I would be pissed off.
BOCA cosche and manager have their kids guest play at good tournaments so their kids will get looked at by colleges. Not worried about the rest of the team at all. If they are then what have hey done to try to help the rest of the roster. Have the team dropped to the fourth bracket?
Wow! A lotta BOCA bitterness here. Lol. Y'all sound like a bunch of liberals. Whaaaaa trump won, whaaaaaaa Boca's jerks whaaaaaa! Get over it. BOCA won. Had some guest players, all from within club, all playing up. What Do you care what others do? Worry about your own situation( which is probably not so good if your on here whining about others). Nice showing last weekend BOCA girls! Well done and well deserved finish. Fine play didn't go unnoticed I'm sure as there were quite a few coaches at games Sunday.
There were four coaches watching, two from each of the teams playing (team managers included).
Was Boca 2001 short players - or did the '02s take playing time from some of the '01s?Not real good policy.
What is the story with the flighting at CASL? Are there just the four flights (ECNL,Elite,Premiere,United)? Or Do the colors within those four categories have meaning to the flighting?
The colors usually don't mean anything.
So elite silver and elite red are comparable?
3rd is 3rd and 4th is 4thPretty simple.
3 ECNL flights then 13 other flights at CASL. So I guess that is 6x3 for ecnl = 18, plus 13 x 8 = 104, 122 teams for U16? I do know a couple teams that were not accepted. 122 teams, wow, right? times 16 players. A lot of ecnl. This is where the college coaches are. 18 ecnl teams with Freshman and Sophomores. Think about that if you were a coach. Then you go to 2000 and two ecnl brackets. Not as expensive as Disney, and for us tri-staters driveable lets say. I am sure NY had college coaches. But where PDA Storm is, I want my daughter to be this weekend at the least.
We're home - and half the teams aren't as good as us.Oh well, it happensThe no NCAA games thing would have really bothered me. Initially it looked like a fabulous weekend.
CASL has always been strange about the teams it accepts. They seem to accept teams at 3 different levels -- Elite/ECNL, Premier, United (this is the first year they've sequestered the ECNL teams to their own flights) -- so there are certainly some very good teams that applied that are sitting at home because there wasn't enough room in the Premier flights and those teams were too good for the United flights, or not enough room in Premier flights and those teams weren't quite good enough to make the cut for Elite. Give them credit for trying to keep the games competitive and giving all levels of teams the opportunity to play at their showcase.And, yes, the colors mean nothing.
CASL is a nice tournament, the coaches are much more likely to scout the ECNL Composite event in Greenboro Dec 2-4 than the CASL event. Of course if they're looking at a particular NPL player they'll go to CASL to look.
National League games are going on in NC this weekend and there are tons of colleges coaches at those games too.
Can someone explain what an ECNL "Composite" event is?
It's a combination of ECNL and NPL players that make up the roster.
7:20, ECNL Composite refers to "composite" ECNL rosters made up of two different age groups, not a combination of ECNL and NPL players. One age bracket was comprised of 2001 and 2002 ECNL players, the other of 2000 and 98/99 players.
No Disrespect to your composite argument - but using PDA as an example Splash/Storm and Madrid at CASL what 01 - what is this composite team made up of if PDA sent a team? Glorified scrimmages unless the results are listed for the public. I know and the NPL florida event is a top tournament.No politics below just results enjoy.To Recap this weekend's results.Just records lots of region 1 teams in action.Lots Youth Soccer Rankings USA scores to changeRankings to start taking shapeAnd yes for those keeping score D1 coaches show up to the Premierand United flights. 2016-17 National LeagueW-T-L (GD)2-2-0 (+2) Greater Binghamton FC (NY-W)1-3-0 (+2) BRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA)1-2-1 (+1) Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)1-1-2 (-3) 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)1-0-3 (-13) Beadling 2001 Elite (PA-W)0-2-2 (-2) FC Frederick 01 (MD)CASL - ECNL2-1-0 (+5) FC Stars ECNL 20012-1-0 (+4) McLean 01 Girls Ecnl2-1-0 (+3) World Class FC Ecnl 012-0-1 (+2) Albertson Fury 01 ECNL1-2-0 (+2) FC Virginia ECNL 20011-1-1 (+1) MARYLAND UNITED FC 01ECNL1-1-1 (+1) STA Morris United NPL 011-1-1 (+0) Bethesda Union ECNL 011-1-1 (-1) FC Bucks Ecnl 011-0-2 ((+2) East Meadow Soccer Club Ecnl 011-0-2 (-4) Penn Fusion SA '01g Ecnl0-1-2 (-2) PDA Splash0-1-2 (-3) Continental FC 01 ECNLCASL - Elite (D1)3-0-0 (+6) SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY2-1-0 (+4) South Shore Select U16 AP (2001)2-1-0 (+4) NEFC - Breakers 2001 NS Elite2-1-0 (+2) SUSA ISA G01 NPL2-0-1 (+2) Arlington 01 Red2-0-1 (-1) LOUDOUN SOCCER CLUB 01 Red1-2-0 (+1) NY Surf G01 LI1-2-0 (+1) FC Copa Academy G01 Black1-1-1 (-1) Massapequa NPL 01 Cosmos1-1-1 (-2) NJ Stallions Academy Freedom0-2-1 (-2) Manhattan SC G01 Pride NPL0-2-1 (-3) GPS-MA NPL0-1-2 (-2) PIPELINE SOCCER CLUB Black 01G0-1-2 (-4) DAVIDSONVILLE Dynamite0-1-2 (-5) U16 NYSCE 2001 Sapphire0-0-3 (-4) HFC United ThunderPremier (D2)3-0-0 (+8) SUSA ELITE G013-0-0 (+7) PDA Madrid (NJ)3-0-0 (+6) LVU 2001 Girls Black2-0-1 (+4) Riverhounds Development Academy2-0-1 (+4) Syracuse Development Academy (NY-W)2-0-1 (+2) Delaware Rush 012-0-1 (+2) FC Stars NPL 20012-0-1 (+1) Princeton sa igfa012-0-1 (-1) Yankee United F.C. Flash NPL-011-1-1 (+2) VAR Rush 01G1-2-0 (+2) Bethesda Storm 010-1-2 (-3) FC Richmond Mystx '010-0-3 (-5) PWSI Courage 01G NPL
Sorry added STA to ECNL breakdown instead of Elite
There are only ECNL players on the Composite Rosters - no NPL players.Kids can play up, that's it.
I guess isn't the same team it use to be?
What Composite event are you talking about? All the top ECNL clubs had their 01 and 02 teams playing at CASL getting ready for the start of their ECNL season on the 10th. So all the main players were playing together unless you want me to believe that the ECNL season means nothing to them and they just mixed players up for development and could careless about the games that really matter to them.Youth Soccer Rankings USA top 25(1) 40.62 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) (2) 40.33 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)(3) 39.74 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)(4) 39.59 BETHESDA SC MD UNION ECNL (MD)(5) 39.32 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ)(6) 38.75 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) (7) 38.67 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA) (8) 38.47 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE)(9) 38.41 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)(10) 38.40 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE) (11) 38.38 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)(12) 38.37 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NY)(13) 38.29 FC BUCKS ECNL (PA) (14) 38.23 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) (15) 38.18 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA) (16) 38.15 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)(17) 38.09 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)(18) 38.07 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW)(19) 38.06 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL (RI)(20) 38.04 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)
Let's put Youth Soccer Rankings USA to the test.using this weekend's start of the ECNL Season35.13 FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U1640.62 FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U16(Stars -5)37.05 Continental FC ECNL U1637.96 PDA ECNL U16(PDA -1)38.40 Albertson Fury ECNL U1638.03 East Meadow SC ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.37 diff)37.46 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U1638.29 FC Bucks ECNL U16(Bucks -1)38.15 Match Fit Academy ECNL U1638.37 World Class FC ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.22 diff)37.73 FSA FC ECNL U16WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U16(N/A - WNY has no score)38.04 Connecticut FC ECNL U1639.74 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16(BBA -2)38.04 Connecticut FC ECNL U16WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U16(N/A - WNY has no score)37.05 Continental FC ECNL U1638.37 World Class FC ECNL U16(WC - 1)38.15 Match Fit Academy ECNL U1637.96 PDA ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.19 diff)37.73 FSA FC ECNL U1639.74 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16(BBA -2.)
Thanks for the link Region 1 had 2 teamsFC Virginia was at both CASL and this event - they also have a roster of 26 so they dress 16 for CASL the remaining 8 combine with some 02s play at this event I can see that MF has a roster of 22 I can see them using 8 of their players combined with some 02s.Just scrimmages - recruiting done for the older ages. Some coaches probably hit all 3
What happened to the Splash. I guess the age realignment didn't do well for them.
You know that it's a showcase event. It counts for nothing other than playing time, girls getting to know each other (that have not been in season yet) and coaches showcasing ALL the kids for the college coaches. If teams don't show well in league play, then I would ask what happened. Until then, I would just wait and see how all of this plays out before jumping to conclusions.
12:02 love that response. The girls play to win and the team uses the girls on the roster. Why does it matter that it's a showcase event? We all know it's a showcase event - all teams showcase their players and some teams even use them as warm ups for their league. These are not all star games where no one plays defense these games are played at the highest level because of the audience - but it still doesn't change the fact that the games are played to be won.If Splash played MF would it matter that it was a showcase? or would the girls give it a little more? This is the reason why ECNL teams want to play only ECNL teams right? Non-ECNL players would be jacked up to play vs an ECNL team and since the ECNL team wants to play all their players they would be a little exposed. It would be the perfect environment for the bottom of the roster players to get some real game action instead of playing teams that use their bottom of the roster players,but i guess it makes them look better and deeper or at least we excuses for when it doesn't go as planned.
Does anyone think that the ECNL clubs that will be moving to the DA next year will show badly next yr? The DOC's and coaches will be looking toward getting everything in order for the DA to be run smoothly. The girls will be thinking , I am going to move to the DA or stay ECNL? All these clubs had changes this yr with the BYC and will have changes next yr due to the DA's.
12:54 - I am not a PDA parent, but was commenting on my experience with showcase tourneys (with my older kids). Do you play to win? Of course. However, because it is a showcase tourney, it is not critical in league standings so coaches (and college coaches in particular) don't care about the score. They want to see how kids react even when placed in situations with girls they don't normally play around. So, in league play, those kids that may have gotten 20 mins per half to play or even the full half, but are not in the top of the roster, may not even see the field (depending on the game and the opponent). It's just the way it is. Not an excuse, just an explanation. So, as I explained previously, see how it plays out during the league season before jumping to conclusions.
Here's my 2 cents...older daughter's experience at showcases.she plays with 2 teams, one her age group(many new players, no chemistry) and one secondary, older age group with 75% return players.2 coaches watching her:"we are looking at her play, no matter the team. How does she respond to different teammates around her? She should continue to play her game and place the ball where it should go, even if her teammates aren't necessarily where they should be"They've observed her on both teams with different outcomes and they have not changed their interest.
Exactly. Score doesn't matter. Can't get parents to understand that re showcase tourneys (ECNL and non-ECNL). If you are collecting GSP, maybe you/coach care. Otherwise, it has zero significance in the recruitment process.
Tight balancing act for U15 and U16 thoughThe GS points do help place team in better brackets following tournaments etc...better brackets, better coach visibility
Get that. I guess teams need to earn them in state cups; non-showcase things, if that is possible. There has to be a better way for teams that rely on GSP for tournament placement to continue to be placed appropriately. I know there are some teams that participate in 10+ tournaments (and league play) through out the season to continue to get GS points and some that only participate in 5/6. And, they finish as semi finalists or above to continue to earn GS points to allow them to get into good tourney. And some just want to get their teams in everything to use this as some sort of ranking system when reaching out to college coaches. To find other options re this so that the kids are allowed to be showcased (and not worry about outcome) and the clubs still have opportunity of getting into various tournaments which rely on GSP would be ideal.
8:03 future tournaments look at the results for placement showcase or not. So results are important for the team to be placed in the flight for as you said for the coaches to see how the players react in a competitive environment.What in the world does a coach see when a player that normally plays 20 minutes plays against another player that normally sees only 20 minutes?To me the kids play and the coaches watch - the better team that day wins simple no excuses.8:43 two teams play and one wins for this board it matters since we can't talk about the kids and everybody knows a showcase is about the players.12:28 I agree to a degree but saw first hand your placement means nothing my kid had 12 D1 schools and another 18 D2 and D3 schools watching them play this fall. It's not taboo to be on a good team that wins games and also plays a bunch of games since when has this become a bad thing? So her team gets GS points and 30 schools watching them why should a parent feel bad about that? Because they got 10k in GSP?3:32. I like youth soccer rankings a lot more, I posted the ECNL spreads before lets see how it does with just showcase games played. How about getting their kids seen as much as possible? The only people calling them chasers are the ones wishing their kids played as many games. PS in order to get those points you have to be good and win more times than not.
Here you go Youth Soccer Ranking scores every game matters since Aug 2016 After BYC. No bias I even split the ECNL teams and Non-ECNL teamsRegion 1 ECNL Top 1541.02 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)40.46 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) 40.26 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)39.02 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD)38.79 BETHESDA SC MD UNION ECNL (MD) 38.47 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)38.39 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) 38.36 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)38.30 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ)38.24 FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE) 38.06 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE) 37.91 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SPLASH (NJ)37.89 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)37.77 FSA FC ECNL (CT) 37.71 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE)Region 1 Non-ECNL Top 1539.22 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 38.24 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)38.23 SUSA FC ACADEMY ISA NPL (NYE)38.21 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY (PAE) 38.11 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL (RI) 38.09 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)38.06 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)38.04 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW)37.99 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA) 37.89 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)37.87 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 37.82 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED FC BLACK (PAE)37.75 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ)37.68 BEACH FC RED (VA)37.65 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL (CT)
These are all 01/U16 teams, right?
12/6 @7:34 - some ARE GSP chasers. There are some clubs that convenience their parents that they have to do this tourney to get points (sometimes it's not a challenging tourney) and this one and this one. My kid had been on one of those. If you have 12 DI coaches looking at your kid, ask them. They don't care about the points. The points are just to get into tourneys. It's a money grab. And, my kid, committed (top DI school; as a soph), plays ECNL so points don't matter. Speaking from my experience (and not saying it works for everyone). We left a very good premier team that, in my opinion as I paid the bill, chased GSP. Showcase tourneys need to showcase kids not become a point chase.
11:30 and this my friend is the disconnect. First congrats to your kid. How about the kids on that very good premier team? How do they commit? Just go to ID camps? How about all the kids on premier teams go to ECNL teams, wait the numbers can't support that. Should they play on a premier team that doesn't play as much less opportunity to be seen and of course they don't have GS points? or should they play on a premier team that plays at WAGS, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jefferson, Delco and maybe an EDP event or 2 that would be 8 opportunities for the players to be seen by their school's of choice. Now if this premier team was good they would place and win lots of GS points that's just the nature of the beast so tell me again how playing these 6 events are a bad thing plus the 2 lower level events to get some D2/D3 schools in the mix? How is this a bad thing? Don't forget they can't go to the ECNL events. Open your eyes what worked for your kid doesn't work for every kid and every kid is important even on those teams you call chasers.So play Bethesda, CASL, Disne, Jefferson & Delco and you are a point chaser if the team does well and wins, wow.
PS. If I ask these D1 coaches about money grabs do you think they will say their id clinics and camps are also? Multiple clinics fora few spots at over $100 per kid and playing tons of games is now also a money grab.Let me see my kid plays 30 games and trains twice a week for less money and is on a roster of less than 18vsmy kid playing 15 games and trains twice a week and is part of a roster in excess of 18 and doesn't get the minutes your kid did - which is the money grab?
Wow!! 12 D1 coaches!!!The future Mia!!!
Not quite Mia, but it does rhyme with it and starts with a "L"..aint that right, slick?
12:23 - my position as stated above is to find a system that does not put the emphasis on winning in showcase tourneys. That's all. If your coach puts the emphasis on winning, he/she (coach) may not play all the kids; he/she may not experiment with putting kids in different positions to show they can do those as well (but maybe not as good as their familiar position), he/she may not encourage creativity. There has to be a better way to get into good tournament brackets without relying on GSP re showcases and allow the coaches to showcase all the kids. How does US Ranking work with tourneys and brackets for non-ECNL teams? Maybe that is the way to go. Certainly a gray area that needs exploring.
@12:23 - do they play league games too in addition to the 6 tourneys you named? So, don't they get points for those? Do they play state cups? Plenty of points in those. Just showing that there are other ways of getting GSpoints and allowing kids to be showcased by not worrying about wins/losses. And, then maybe equitable playing time would work since the outcome doesn't matter.
3:47 This is where we are different - I expect my daughter's coach to coach the team to win regardless of who's on the field, if he/she didn't then i would have a problem and that would be a place I wouldn't want my kid to play. A coach - plays the game the win the player's execute the plays and the good (deep) team win more times than not this is not a bad thing. One person's creativity is another person's ball hog, depends on who you ask. The players need to play their position and role on the field regardless of event league/showcase, not seeing your point. Your assumption is that teams that win don't play all their players and chase points because more times than not they place and that's where my beef is. But i do agree with your point of playing with a short bench at a showcase.The MatchFit and PDA North kicked off the NorthEast NPL last night.MatchFit has a score 35.20 and they beat PDA 4-1 who doesn't have a score yet. Let's see what score PDA gets for this. I would expect 32.20 and their next game against CFC Delco who has a 36.49 score will either increase or decrease their score which will also either increase or decrease matchFit's score. So If PDA beats CFC Delco their score will jump big time which might decrease or increase matchFit's score
Hey 12:23 - I am the previous poster and I get your argument & agree with you re the id camp analogy. Don't ask the college coaches if they think GSP is a money grab. Ask them if they care about the points or even consider GSP a ranking system. My point was to try to get all the kids playing time at some showcase tourneys and for the coaches to not worry about the outcome and forego the points.
I think we all agree ECNL gets the exposure. So for teams not in ECNL the major tournaments are where the top of the roster is showcasing the EDP events and smaller show cases are where the other players play. But you tell them not to do that and they should keep their top of the roster players out of the line up at majors event remember that's their ECNL you only get to Regionals/nationals if you win states and no college coaches watch states/league games or maybe just local schools.No need to ask because i don't think anyone takes GSP seriously besides calling them what they are a spin on the game and a subplot.
4:09 - I am not calling those who play to win chasers. I am saying there are chasers. Completely different. Some who will go to every event just to get points. And, I agree with winning if you are playing everybody in a showcase. Of course, do it. But, some teams don't have a deep bench. And, may not play all the kids to showcase them just to get the win, just to get the points. And, the NPL games you referenced ARE league games. These are points that matter in the final outcome and determines potential Nat'l championship play.
We still have a disconnect. I am saying no team is a chaser.ECNL showcase top players in league games.NON-ECNL teams showcase top players at major showcase events (Bethesda,CASL, Disney, Jefferson).ECNL showcase other players at ECNL showcase events, CASL, jefferson)NON-ECNL showcase other players at mid level showcase eventsA good team deep team wins most times than not so they get points. All top leagues ECNL, National league, ERL, EDP, CCL and some NPLs get points. All top tournaments get points unless they ask to not be included or don't provide results. So in a nut shell if you are good and you win you get points you don't chase you are rewarded by events that give points for being good.The NPL games will have an impact on youth Soccer Rankings score that will impact tournament placement and NPL Final advancement.I guess we just agree to disagree :)
All about balanceTell your daughter: "listen honey, I know your teammates playing this weekend won't be that good and you'll lose games but remember they need to be seen by college coaches too. You may only play 10 mn to allow them time so please be patient"Those 16 D1 coaches watching and begging for you will understand. :)
Really? balance you say. News flash those 16 D1 schools are coming to watch the kids that contacted them and the kids should have told their coach who they invited so the coach knows who to play. Is it fair for those players to play against the bottom of the roster?Don't forget we are talking about teams that have a huge drop off sometimes in talent (not all but most)
Facetious and/or sarcastic no doubt...8:12
I have to chime in here! My daughter plays for a top academy and her coach sent out an email that stated all players will get equal time at showcases. It absolutely was the case. But when we played a non-showcase game it was obvious the better kids stayed in the game much longer!
Every game should be a showcase at this ageA good team will have a fairly even roster so shouldn't matter who playsI'm obviously talking about non-ecnl
No. That is INCORRECTPlayers must learn to COMPETE. There should be a clear winner - and a loser - of each game. League play, tournament play - players show their grace under pressure - when the score counts - like in life.
Who said there weren't winners and losers?Except Bernie Sanders...Tag the post to which you refer next time
5:48 - Does CASL, etc. give GSP points? I didn't think so in the showcase brackets. How about Jeff Cup? And, PDA end of May tourney doesn't award points, either, right even for non-ECNL teams? These are league games for ECNL so count toward the overall standings.
1:57Only Elite flights at CASL get points and will (manually).Jefferson Cup awards points.PDA event asked to be removed from GotsoccerECNL Showcase Events never posted flight/results before so they couldn't be included.
Thank you re CASL 2015 results. Did that change for this year as far as even recording points as they kept leagues together it seems? Txs! And thank you for explanations re the various tourneys.
10:52 The ECNL asked to keep their teams together so reserves can play reserves for them to look better than going up against the best NoECNL players which would test them more and showcase them moreBecause the Non-ECNL team players would be jacked up to play an ECNL team and since they be using this as a showcase for the players that have a chance to play D1 College Soccer who are also jacked up, the ECNL teams would lose a bunch of games hence the Showcase argument and GS hate in my opinion.The points will be added at some points for 2016 CASL - My guess would be ECNL and Elite flights only
From my 12/5 9:33AM postYouth Soccer Rankings USA prediction (using showcase results)38.40 Albertson Fury ECNL U1638.03 East Meadow SC ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.37 diff)Actual Score4 Albertson Fury ECNL U163 East Meadow SC ECNL U161 for 1 so far
Are most girls DA tryouts charging a registration fee?
Why wouldn't they easy money
Youth Soccer Rankings missed this one - Penn Fusion still the team to beat in PA ECNL handles FC Bucks 2-0. Thought for a second maybe the BYC helped FC Bucks the most37.46 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U1638.29 FC Bucks ECNL U16(Bucks -1)Youth Soccer rankings USA scores = 1 out 2 right with this weekend's ECNL games no other scores posted from yesterday.The North East NPL also had games yesterday. 4 PDA South 01 NPL0 FSA FC 01 NPL 0 Albertson Fury 01 NPL 0 East Meadow SC 01 NPL
1:38 - seems like you don't like ECNL. Good players in all leagues. When you have over 100 coaches coming to your games at the ECNL games in CASL, I guess some of the players must be playing good soccer for the coaches to want to watch. Doubt it had anything to do with playing reserves and just playing good soccer.
Wow - 4 goals for Albertson vs EM?Wide open game, I guess.
12:40 - 1:38 here very much the opposite. I like the ECNL very much. But if you read back a few posts maybe you or maybe someone else said that ECNL clubs use these events for the players that don't play much,which I don't buy because it's the bottom of the roster player that rotate not dressing anyway but I played along. My point was CASL never had ECNL flights only prior to this year. So one can come to a conclusion that they want to keep other players away from the college coaches that are coming to see their players. No hate in my post just calling it like i see it. Wow every game that had ECNL teams in it had over 100 coaches didn't know there were that many at CASL, you really want me to believe that? Maybe your kid's team but your kid's team represents their club not the ECNL or maybe you want me to believe that FC Bucks ECNL had over 100 coaches?A good team with a good club brand will bring out the coaches my friend no one is debating that - but if you say reserves play then they must be playing reserves if that's the ECNL model and the reason they are in the same flight with no NON-ECNL teams.I think some of the best teams in the region are ECNL teams no doubt, but there are some others that are not ECNL. But i don't want to debate that been there done that.My point was ECNL reserves would have been better off playing against teams that would be jacked to play an ECNL team than another team's reserves (previous posts) but then you have the hate posts vs non-ECNL teams as chasers and they always play to win because they beat reserves.
1:38 here again - I think Albert might be the team on the Island.They tied MF earlier in the season (yes it was a showcase) curios to see how WC did vs MF in a league game. Not sure about the SUSA teams and NY Surf did play an EM team (but it looks like not the ECNL team - this team played in CT and got smoked by rec teams - per GS account), so I'm not sure how to look at that 2-1 scoreline.
FYI some GDA are beginning ID camps for "outside" players interested
7:59 this age group will look very different this year as the top 2001s disappear from their teams and join the top 2002s in their own league leaving their current 2001 teams looking like a shell sure they have NPL and B teams to pull players but they will drop below the teams that are still together with a full year under their belt. GDA Top 10 (4 point diff between 1 and 10)40.35 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA)39.52 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA)38.16 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA)38.10 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE)38.09 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE)37.70 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE)37.62 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SPLASH (NJ)37.59 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE)37.37 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL (CT)36.37 EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER (NYW)ECNL Top 10 (6 point diff between 1 and 10)40.13 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) 38.72 BETHESDA SC MD ECNL (MD)38.00 MATCH FIT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ)37.93 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 37.47 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT)37.38 FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE)37.21 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL (VA)37.15 FSA FC ECNL (CT)36.73 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE)34.70 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA) NON-GDA/ECNL Top 10 (1 point diff between 1 and 10)38.67 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 38.13 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA)37.93 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD)37.84 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC (NYW) 37.73 SUSA FC ACADEMY ISA NPL (NYE)37.72 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA)37.64 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA)37.57 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 37.52 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA)37.51 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ)
My bad not this year but in 9 months
1:38. EM Dudnt get smoked in CT. They didn't show up and forfeited, hence the 3-0 scores in all the games.
Smoked my friend - the scoreline is 3-0 Ls to rec teams not ECNL or top non-ECNL teams. I don't care that they didn't show the score is public and it's 3-0 in record book. I know only ECNL games matter to them.
Youth soccer blows no matter where you play. It is all about the money! It is a business . The almighty $$ will always win.
Dec 11@ 4:31Yes, over the course of three games, we had over 135 D1 coaches watching our girls play, including 2 head coaches who have won national championships in the last couple years. We are not a top team, at least in terms of wins and losses. But that's not what's important to these coaches. It's all about individual talent and every ECNL team has plenty of it. And while there may be plenty of individual talent on Non ECNL teams, they will have to work much harder to get that kind of exposure.
Hope the spectators had somewhere to stand/sit and watch game :)
No worries, I was more than happy to stand back a few feet so Erica Walsh could have an unobstructed view of the field.
ECNL and college. Here is a quick synopsis. We do play on a top team, non-ecnl. And have for years as guest player and on club team. We are typically the team playing against the ecnl teams. And we have won the majority of the time. I would rather play on the team that wins, that is how I see it. And if the college coaches are watching ecnl and my daughter is playing against them and playing well and winning. That is the bottom line. We have beaten over last 2.5 years ecnl teams = FC Bucks, PDA Storm, Albertson, PF we tied, and Bethesda we beat. Their is two losses against ecnl, but without being a real ahole I will leave it at that. So if 135 coaches are watching my daughter play against ecnl and win. That is where i want to be.
So this is a few days late, but was at a PA Classic event last weekend and was able to witness both PDA's NPL and Penn Fusions NPL U16 squads. I was amazed at the difference in style of play considering that both these squads are coached by ECNL coaches. PDA's NPL worked out of the back and played soccer regardless of the score and really never lost their shape. Saw two of their games last weekend and its a credit to both coach and players how they played even in defeat.As for Fusion's NPL, lets just say physicality is their best asset. Found themselves behind in one game and just kept fouling and eating up time. Almost never connected more than three passes, although they were good at fielding punts from their keeper.Strange to see styles so different considering that both of their top squads play very similar style and are very good teams.
Well here's the issue. Penn Fusion loses a lot of their bubble kids to local teams' A teams. These players don't want to play with the B team label. DA is bigger and broader and will always field strong B teams. Penn Fusion is stuck with kids the next tier down who really don't even aspire to the A team.
Okay your 135 trumps the 12 - are you happy now? But did the other ECNL teams have 135? Let's see 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999/98 age groups - 3 ECNL flights of 8 teams approx 96 ECNL teams - so are you telling me they all got over 100? If it's just your kid's team great job that's trumps the 12 by far your kid is in a good place good luck. SO I'm guessing of the 135 all the kids on the team were told to contact at least one of the coaches right? Come on I know you all talk.Serioulsy, good for the team but so what - I would much rather talk results black and white or like 1:06 did compare some teams rather than just saying we are all wasting our time it's all about the Showcase - yeah we know that.How did they compare to Classics and Rage's style of play? Did these two play better than either PDA or Fusion? So you liked the way PDA played, but it looks like they were able to play up to midfield and then no creativity, right? That would explain the lack of goals or were they just unlucky?
1:21 some stats to support you post.ECNL teams very similar - correct when it comes to results37.70 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE)37.61 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SPLASH (NJ)PDA's 2nd and 3rd team were not at Classics.36.50 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ) 35.47 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE FUSION (NJ)So of the 4 teams that you saw (or maybe 3 ), the team with the worst results played the best? Looked to be an even flight with teams of appropriate skillsets and speed of play, so I can see that 1 goal Ls kind of prove that. If they were much better the scoreline would reflect or if they weren't as good the swcoreline will reflect.36.05 PENNSYLVANIA CLASSICS ACADEMY35.44 READING RAGE SC MORGAN35.33 PENN FUSION SA NPL CRAIGIE34.82 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY HORNETS
1:21Sounds like you are dissing Penn Fusion's NPL entry for this fall. No need for that. I am sure there is talent there - AND kids that are driven to move up.
1:29 - just happened upon this and this age group accidently. A lot of interesting posts. Anyway, ECNL older age group (as you asked about others) had over 100 at just one game. Hope others had as much success.Wishing much success to the various kids in their various leagues. They are the ones doing the work.
Since the ECNL is all about the Showcase and don't care about results - I will list Previews going into the winter break (Florida events will changes some of these) using Youth Soccer Rankings USA starting with North East Girls NPLNorthEast Girls NPL38.12 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA)36.77 WORLD CLASS FC NPL (NYE)36.50 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH NPL (NJ)36.07 CONTINENTAL FC NPL (PAE)35.50 CONNECTICUT FC NPL (CT)35.43 MATCH FIT ACADEMY NPL (NJ)35.33 PENN FUSION SA NPL CRAIGIE (PAE)34.92 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS NPL (MA)34.82 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY HORNETS (NJ)34.63 ALBERTSON SC FURY NPL (NYE)34.04 EAST MEADOW SC NPL (NYE)33.99 FC BUCKS NORTH BLACK NPL (PAE)31.90 FSA FC NPL (CT)
New England NPL37.52 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA)37.36 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL (CT) 36.51 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL (RI)35.66 SEACOAST UNITED NPL (NH)35.48 LIVERPOOL FC MA NPL (MA)34.99 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL (CT)34.44 NEFC BREAKERS NPL (MA) 34.19 GPS MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA)30.73 AZTEC SOCCER NPL (MA)
NY Club NPL37.72 SUSA FC ACADEMY ISA NPL (NYE)36.44 MASSAPEQUA SC NPL COSMOS (NYE)36.38 STA SOCCER MORRIS UNITED NPL (NJ)36.27 PRINCETON SA IGFA36.07 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE NPL (NYE)35.97 NEW YORK SC ELITE SAPPHIRE (NYE)35.07 NJ CRUSH FC STORM NPL (NJ)34.47 QUICKSTRIKE FC NPL (NYE)
Virginia NPL36.70 VIRGINIA RUSH35.16 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE35.03 CYA COUGARS34.68 RICHMOND KICKERS YSC ELITE34.10 VSA NPL ACADEMY33.66 RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE GIRLS33.46 NORTHERN VIRGINA SC UNITED BLUE32.87 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER COURAGE NPL32.85 VIENNA YS PHOENIX00.00 Annandale United Girls 16U
1:57 Not dissing Penn Fusion as a club, just the style of play of the one team I was watching. I have seen their ECNL team play and its a totally different style and they and their 02 team is very good. Thought the PA Classics team had no idea of what they wanted to do. And while the Rage team was the best possession team there, switching the field and making runs, they missed scoring opportunities constantly.
2:38 - ECNL cares about it's league play. And, some clubs (can't say all) will use a showcase as a showcase; unless it's league play as well such as Sanford/FL, PDA, Phoenix (previously San Diego), etc. So, these are showcases that count toward national standings than a WAGS, Bethesda, CASL, Jeff Cup and the like.
3:46 I'm confused, if they count towards the National Rankings why label them as a showcase? Note: these events have nothing to do with who goes to playoffs or who wins best club (based on the Finals). So explain to me why these Rankings, mean something and WAGS, Bethesda and CASL don't? Because they also mean something towards national Rankings. Oh I got it the ECNL showcases are for the top of the roster and since the bottom of the roster plays at CASL, WAGS and Bethesda we don't want those results counting because the A list players are not playing. GOT IT!
About the USA rankings; are these the InSincSoccer USA rankings or true USA rankings? Pulled up the USA soccer rankings website; my kid's team (a top ECNL team) not even listed. And, InSincSoccer/USA rankings website of her friend's older ECNL team at a local Club (which is a top ECNL team, too) appears to have their CASL results, but doesn't even have their national cup championship games played and won last June, 2016. This team, also not listed in USA soccer rankings website. So, I guess those rankings are not accurate as they claim, either.
4:04 - Not sure why ECNL calls them showcases. Maybe so coaches will know it's a national league event and come to watch. Club coaches may play teams differently at these ECNL showcase events. In our Club, everyone plays. Now, maybe some don't play as much as others, but everyone gets good playing time. If you pull up the ECNL website, and go to one a member's age group page, pick a random one or pick U16. None of the CASL, Bethesda, WAGS games are listed; if that team went and participated. League games only and upcoming FL games are league games and are listed; as are Phoenix games which are scheduled and listed. And, ECNL championships/qualifiers are based on all of these league games (including those at the ECNL showcase events).
4:17 below are your ECNL Region 1 teams from theUSA soccer rankings website. PS. InSinc stinks they have dupes all over the place and compares last year's U14 teams vs U15 teams same as GotSocccer. US Soccer Rankings only lists teams that have played X amount of games this year (after 8/1/2016) because of BYC. So I will argue very accurate. 40.35 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) [#2]40.12 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) [#3]39.51 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL (MA) [3 games]38.72 BETHESDA SC MD ECNL (MD) [#20]38.16 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) [#25]38.10 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE) [#29]38.09 WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) [3 games]37.99 MATCH FIT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) [3 games]37.93 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) [#39]37.70 PENN FUSION SA ECNL (PAE) [4 games]37.61 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SPLASH (NJ) [3 games]37.59 EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE) [4 games]37.47 CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) [4 games]37.38 FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE) [4 games]37.21 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL (VA) [#86]37.15 FSA FC ECNL (CT) [3 games]36.73 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE) [5 games]34.69 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA) [3 games]
The below ECNL's team page has ECNL league games, ECNL Showcase games and Non ECNL games as I said the most accurate - it doesn't use just gotsoccer event or just ECNL events it uses them all.http://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=1744322
Before37.46 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U1638.29 FC Bucks ECNL U16(Bucks -1)After37.70 Penn Fusion37.38 FC Bucks---------------------------------Before38.40 Albertson Fury ECNL U1638.03 East Meadow SC ECNL U16(pick-em - 0.37 diff)After38.10 Albertson37.59 East MeadowAs teams play more games and their score adjusts it also adjusts all the teams they played. In other wordsif FC Boston goes up from a 34 it will adjust every team they played also. very Accurate,it doesn't matter how many games you play or who you play.Once the ECNL/NPL site updates we can test it some more.FC Stars -6 vs FC BostonPDA -1 vs CFC DelcoWC pickem vs MFBoston -2 vs CT ECNLWC -1 vs CFC DelcoBoston -2 vs FSAor NPLWC NPL -1 vs MF NPLWC NPL -1 vs CFC Delco NPL
I must not be doing something correctly. I tried to view U16 PDA (Players Development Academy) - put this info in the USA Rankings home page and nothing current appeared. Maybe not enough games played for it to be included, yet.Thank you.
Was looking for Splash (ECNL) and Shore is what appeared. Tried Penn Fusion (ECNL) teams too, and others. http://youthsoccerrankings.us/Any suggestions?
@4:04 - not sure what you mean. The ECNL showcase games do mean something as far as finals. There are conference and out of conference games and those final tallies are all used for national/finals. The out of conference box scores can knock teams out of contention (as goal differential and the like count, too).
5:32 & 5:53 correct there is a section "If your team is missing you can view unranked teams here." Click on the here and you go to the below pagehttp://youthsoccerrankings.us/?showUnranked=YI view this site more than gotsoccer for results and also like to view the teams the girls are playing. 5:58 Not picking on FC Virginia just using them - if you see the below link they have 11 games that count towards the playoffs but 14 are listed. The ECNL makes every team do 3 showcase events that are included in the log but are not counted towards qualification. Sorry, i couldn't find what you ere saying in the rules page.I like to follow ECNL, National League and all Region1 leagues NPL, ERL, CCL, NEP and EDPhttp://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/mid-atlantic-conference-standings-2/
Txs. I'll see if I can find something to support the ECNL standings, thing. I know my older daughter's team, last season, knocked out a team that was above them in the conference standings (by a game or a point) because of their out of conference/showcase event play; more wins.
Okay just pulled up U16 FC Virginia ECNL standings. They are noting 13 conference games played but are showing 16 games because three of those games were played out of conference (11/11-13) at a national ECNL showcase event in Phoenix. All of the games count or would not be listed. This is a confusing new system. Not really a fan.Last year's system had the conference games listed and in another tab had the national event standings listed. All the games counted, but they were separated in accordance with their event. ECNL event/league games all count toward nationals/finals.
Yes, the conference tab gave the division or conference results and standings and then the other national events gave the overall standings including all the ECNL events such as league plus showcase. There would be a list of teams and a bold line to show which teams were in the Champions (top 25); then a list of teams and another bold line to show the North American Cup (next 15 or 20) and then a bold line to show the Showcase Event (next 15 or 20) and then a final bold line to show which teams beneath it didn't qualify for any nationals/finals. I think the red link is the "tab" substitute in the standings for some teams are doing exactly what I described above.
Not Saying your wrong - I just went by the below Rules. ECNL Showcase events are just that Showcase events for the top of the roster players. The CASL, Bethesda and Jefferson Cups of the world are for the other ECNL players, I would expect the Non-ECNL teams to treat these games like the ECNL teams treat their ECNL showcase events. This is why CASL kept ECNL teams together this year curious to see if Jefferson Cup does the same thing in the Spring to shield the bottom of the roster players. I'm just saying this is how it looks, not how it is.Rules3.16Standings. The standings in each age ECNL Conferenceshall be determined at the end of the ECNL Regular Season (the “Regular Season Standings”). The Regular Season Conference Standings shall determine qualification and seeding forthe ECNL National Playoffsas provided in the attached Exhibit C.Northeast ConferenceStructure: 14Clubs, 1 TableAutomatic ECNL Champions League Qualifiers: 5ØTop five(5)teams (based onpoints (PPG) fromconference games only) qualifyØThe next two(2) teams with the highest PPG in the conference based on conference games only and regardless of division, will be in contention for wildcards into the ECNL Champions League.4.5Overall Club Champion. At the end of the ECNL National Finals, an overall ECNL National Club Champion will be determined based upon the Final Standingsas provided in Exhibit B. Each ECNL Club will earn points towards the ECNL National Club Championship based upon the final position of each ECNL Team in the ECNL Club at the U14, U15, U16, U17, and U18/U19age groups in the Final Standings of the age group. Points will be awarded in each age group according to Exhibit Bhereto. The ECNL Club with the most total points from its ECNL Teams, as determined pursuant to this Rule 4.5, shall be crowned the ECNL National Club Champion. Each ECNL Club will be ranked based upon the Final Standings in each age group (the “ECNL Club Rankings”).2016-17 ECNL Overall Club Ranking PointsU14-U18 Conference Points(based on PPG from conference games only)
Huh. Interesting. Appreciate the info. I guess we'll find out in June or at the upcoming Sanford showcase for those attending. That is not how ECNL event showcases were handled previously. But, everything is in flux.
Just throwing out there that if the ECNL out-of-conference showcase events don't count toward anything, why the 3 minimum requirement? Why not 1 or 2, tops? And, then get the kids in other showcase events where some have opted out so everyone can be showcased.
These are interesting points. I see another change in ECNL conference games. Seems that they are playing 1 game only against conference teams. This is due to the expanded conferences, I assume. Previously, it was two; a home and an away.
Awful new website. Has no historical information for the various original conferences to see the progression. Where are those items? Wormhole? Horrible.
Chiming in - Regular season standings discussed in the Rules, I believe, does include the out of conference play during ECNL showcases. These occur during regular season play. Any ECNL coaches on this blog to give any insight?
12:40 The standings in each age ECNL Conference shall be determined at the end of the ECNL Regular Season. Teams with the highest PPG in the conference based on conference games only. It's pretty straight forward.Goes back to my point. The ECNL showcase events are used for the top of the roster stars no problem with that. So why would anyone expect a Non-ECNL team to not showcase their top of the roster stars at CASL, Jefferson and other majors? Why because the ECNL use these events for the bottom of the roster players? So when the NON-ECNL team wins they are called GSP chasers and playing to win - How about they are just flat out better than the non-ecnl stars and are not chasers and play by the same rules? I believe this is why CASL went with ECNL only flights so bottom of the roster players play bottom of the roster players. The problem with my statement is that bottom of the roster players are still being rotated and not dressing for these events.I'm okay with 3 events - this is why you pick an ECNL team for the exposure you will get unfortunately for some that will be very expensive,not for all.Don't forget about the 1 game - this age group doesn't do fall league games anymore.
3:20 here and the comeback will be to my post we still got 100 D1 schools to watch our bottom of the roster players. My comment is great but did any bottom of the roster players (little playing time) sit out any of the 3 games since you can only dress 18 and most ECNL teams carry 20+
What would you call a team that enters 20 tourneys a season/year, plus league play, for GSP points?
3:20 - The points from the national events DO count toward entries in Championship play as below explained. U15-U17 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE | SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATION ODDS The ECNL Champions League will have 28Automatic Qualifiers based solely on conference games as outlined above. After the Automatic Qualifiers are determined, an additional 15 teams will be placed into a wildcard pool based on their conference points and conference standings as outlined above. Once in the wildcard pool, these 15 teams will be ranked based on points-per-game from all games played –including conference games AND NATIONAL EVENT GAMES. The top four will qualify for ECNL Champions League play.
Also, it seems that the overall ECNL record (including conference AND national events) are used to determine North American Cup qualifiers (nationals).
Thank you for clarifying. And, yes, still good to draw over 100 coaches at any one game whether it is top, middle and/or bottom of roster participating. Clearly there is high interest in those players.
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OK, so what is the deal with NPL this year (NYCSL) - playoff or no playoff at U15-u18?
Unfortunately 5:09, those coaches are really only looking at players 1-6 at the top of the roster. But at least those parents on each team are getting their moneys worth. ECNL is absolutely the best place to be for those top players and they will get offered some awesome opportunities. As far as player number seven on down, not so much. PDA is probably the exception here, they are a little deeper and schools know it.
Well, thanks for that, but I wasn't talking about PDA. There really are other teams that have deep rosters too.
@3:49 Agreed. My kid is on the other ECNL team and the drop off from #4 to 24 is not substantial and by the end of the Spring it may be closer than before.But that's one person's opinion.
I hear ya. Yep, those soccer savants; what can you say? lol
5:09 So you are you telling me the 4th best player will not dress for games? If that's the case then I agree no drop off but if it's the same 8 or 10 players, then there is a drop off.
Depends on the Team/Club, but yes in showcase tourneys that are not league, #4 may not play; especially if committed.
@7:33 I am saying that I believe that one 3 kids will probably dress every game and the rest will rotate.. that's what I have seen so far in a short sample.
So? And, I think 1-3 may change based on the game/opponent as well.
Region 1 tems 16U National LeagueGoing into Disney8th - Beadling 2001 Elite (PA-W)2nd - Greater Binghamton FC (NY-W)7th - FC Frederick 01 (MD) 4th - BRYC Elite Academy 01/02 (VA) 5th - 1776 United FC 01 Xtreme (PA-E)4th - Century V 01 Gold (PA-W)
4:56 your post is misleading. The national events ONLY count in ranking the 15 team wildcards AFTER they use confernce games ONLY to determine the 15 teams. So once again the National Events or Showcase events mean nothing when it comes to qualifying. They are used the same way other events use Non-ECNL events/games to rank teams.U15-U17 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE The ECNL Champions League will have 28 Automatic Qualifiers based solely on conference games as outlined below. After the Automatic Qualifiers are determined, an additional 15 teams will be placedinto a wildcard pool based on their conference points and conference standings as outlined below. Once in the wildcard pool, these 15 teams will be ranked based on PPG from all games played– including conference games and national event gamesAutomatic Berths and Wildcard Consideration for the ECNL Champions Leagueis provided to each conference as follows:based on points (PPG) from conference games only
I don't think there is a team that enters 20 tournaments.I can see2 Leagues (EDP and NYCSL NPL)2 State Cups if you are from NJ or NY6 Tournaments (WAGS, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jefferson & Delco)1 Regional Championship event maybe 211 TournamentsI wouldn't call this team a GSP chaser.
Cool discussionWhere do these teams post the ladder of names, #1-#24?
It's the same argument to try and justify. Bottom line the coach will play the players he/she trusts the most. Some posters feel like ranking these kids so I play along. The reality of it is you have 6 players that don't dress per game, I don't for one second buy that 20 players rotate not dressing and I can be wrong it just doesn't make sense and I'm talking available to play. You can tell me you had 100 coaches watching your games and that's cool but they didn't stay for the entire game and they only watched the players playing while they were there. If your kid is dressed and in the game great (better players stay in the game the entire time so they have nothing to worry about and their parents are defending the team) if not better luck next time of I hope they do really well to stand out becasue these coaches are looking for standouts no? At this age every player that plays for a well coached team knows how to play their position.
Well, there are (17+ tourneys and Disney) and I'm not just speaking about this age group. But there was a misunderstanding re the ECNL out of conference events items being included in the count toward nationals.
Meant to clarify, I am considering the cups, etc. as tourneys too as their are multiple games played within the event. Now, the league games are different because there are many more games over a period of time within a league event/tourney. But, the team has to play all of those, as well. THAT is a heck of a lot of soccer for kids.
9:54 I agreeHS soccer approx 20 games in 2.5 months.Club Soccer 3 Nov/Dec tournaments equals 9 games.4 State Cup games maybe 8 if you do both US Club and NCS (this is the max)League games 7 for normal leagues 14 for ECNL teams.throw in a few more tournaments another 3 with 9 games.So we have33 games for Non-ECNL teams29 games for ECNL teamsThen add on the 20 HS games Regionals and nationals for Non-ECNLsand Playoffs and nationals for ECNl teams Not much of a difference in total games, so i agree a ton of soccer but no more that what they played at the younger ages.Dude, which team are you talking about 17 tournaments and Disney?
Let's see how much jefferson values the results of other majors like CASL will append Disney results to this list. I think those would be only majors for Non-ECNL teams.Region 1 Teams @ CASL - 48 region1 teams. For those that like results - let me know I can append other Tournaments to this list.W-T-L-(GD)2-1-0-(5) FC Stars ECNL 20012-1-0-(4) Mclean Youth Soccer Mclean 01 Girls Ecnl2-1-0-(3) World Class FC Ecnl 012-0-1-(2) Albertson Fury 01 ECNL1-2-0-(2) East Meadow Soccer Club Ecnl 011-2-0-(2) FC Virginia ECNL 20011-1-1-(4) Bethesda Union ECNL 011-1-1-(4) FC Bucks Ecnl 011-1-1-(1) Maryland United FC 01G ECNL1-0-2-(-4) Penn Fusion SA '01g Ecnl0-1-2-(-2) PDA Splash0-1-2-(-3) Continental FC 01 ECNL3-0-0-(8) SUSA ELITE G013-0-0-(7) SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY3-0-0-(7) PDA Madrid (NJ)3-0-0-(6) LVU 2001 Girls Black3-0-0-(6) FC Stars NPL 20012-1-0-(4) South Shore Select U16 AP2-1-0-(4) NEFC - Breakers 2001 NS Elite2-1-0-(2) SUSA ISA G01 NPL2-0-1-(4) Riverhounds Development Academy2-0-1-(4) Syracuse Development Academy (NY-W)2-0-1-(4) FC Stars New Hampshire United 20012-0-1-(3) Fury Athletica2-0-1-(2) Delaware Rush 01'2-0-1-(2) Arlington 01 Red2-0-1-(1) Princeton sa igfa012-0-1-(-1) Loudoun 01G Red2-0-1-(-1) Yankee United F.C. Flash NPL-011-2-0-(2) Bethesda Storm 011-2-0-(1) NY Surf G01 LI1-2-0-(1) FC Copa Academy G01 Black1-1-1-(0) Maryland United FC 01G Red1-1-1-(2) Virginia Rush 01G1-1-1-(1) STA Morris United NPL 011-1-1-(-1) Massapequa NPL 01 Cosmos1-1-1-(-1) Match Fit Academy NE NPL 011-1-1-(-2) NJ Stallions Academy Freedom1-0-2-(-3) Richmond Strikers 01 Elite girls0-2-1-(-2) Manhattan SC G01 Pride NPL0-2-1-(-3) GPS-MA NPL0-1-2-(-2) PLSC Black 01G0-1-2-(-3) FC Richmond Mystx '010-1-2-(-4) Davidsonville Dynamite0-1-2-(-4) NY Surf G010-1-2-(-5) U16 NYSCE 2001 Sapphire0-0-3-(-4) HFC United Thunder0-0-3-(-5) PWSI Courage 01G NPL
You have State, EDP and US Club cups for non-ECNL (this includes USYS and NPL). You have a slew of tourneys not just the top around here (WAGS, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jeff Cup, PDA (spring and mem weekend, if you get in), Delco, Stars, Manhattan, News, Classics, various VA tourneys, Ohio. For tourneys that are not showcase brackets, should figure in 3-5 games (playoffs and finals). Then, you have a bunch of leagues and you can be in several (ECNL, EDP, NPL, Nat'l, Regional, NY, PAGS, NJ, etc.) You are on the low end as far as tallies re the amount of games being played for some teams. And, high school as you noted.
ECNL can't play in other leagues. But I agree other leagues don't seem to have this restriction.
Region 1 top teams in Florida. This list shows you the teams that truly are trying to get their kids into top colleges.Dec 28 - 30ECNL FloridaWorld Class FC ECNL U16 Maryland United FC ECNL U16WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U16Penn Fusion SA ECNL U16Bethesda SC ECNL U16FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U16FSA FC ECNL U16FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U16FC Bucks ECNL U16PDA ECNL U16East Meadow SC ECNL U16 FC Virginia ECNL U16Match Fit Academy ECNL U16Continental FC ECNL U16Richmond United ECNL U16Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16Dec 29-31NPL Showcase NJ Crush FC Storm (NJ) VA Rush 01GPenn Fusion 01G NPLPDA Madrid (NJ)Riverhounds Development AcademyFC Virginia United Elite 01CFC United NPL 01SUSA G01 Elite WhiteContinental FC Premier '01FPWSI Courage 01G NPLPDA Hornets (NJ)Cedar Stars Academy Girls U16 FSA FC GIRLS 01 NPLBayside FC Bolts Red NPL 00/01Albertson NPL Fury 01World Class FC '01 StylesSeacoast United 2001 NPLDec 31 - Jan 2DisneyUSYS National LeagueGREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 0102 (VA) Showcase SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY (NJ) SUSA ISA NPL G01 (NYE) SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA 2001 (NYW)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ) SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP (MA)NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) PREMIER SC STRIKERS (MD)STA 2001G NPL (NJ) MASSAPEQUA NPL '01COSMOS (NYE) NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NPL (MA) MANHATTAN SC PRIDE 01 NPL (NYE) WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE NYSC ELITE 2001 SAPPHIRE (NYE)SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE)BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SKY (NYE) PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) ARLINGTON SA 2001 GIRLS RED (VA)FC COPA ACADEMY G00 NPL ROMA (NJ)NEW YORK SURF SOCCER CLUB G01 LI (NYE) NEFC - BREAKERS 2001 NS ELITE (MA)YARDLEY MAKEFIELD 01 BANSHEES (PAE) MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)AlsoThey were includedTeams in National league are also in ERL (14 games or 4 tournaments)They can't do CASL and Jefferson because of conflicts. Teams in ERL play 7 games and if they do EDP that's 7 moreTeams in PAGs play 3 games and probably also play EDP for 7 more games.State Cup is 4, for the champs it's another 4 at regionals and if they win that and 4 at nationalsMy counts are on the high end - I will compare any two teams for you
Using Youth soccer Rankings below are your current top 20 (note there are teams that will jump right in once they play the minimum games required).These counts include State Cup, ECNL, National League, NPL and Tournaments. # Games - Team - [Score]23 MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA) [40.12]21 FC VIRGINIA ECNL (VA) [38.18]18 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL (VA) [37.42]14 ALBERTSON SC FURY ECNL (NYE) [38.08]10 BETHESDA SC ECNL (MD) [38.73]7 MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) [37.97]6 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) [40.33]-----------------------------------------------------------20 BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY (VA) [37.67]20 BEACH FC RED (VA) [37.24]18 ARLINGTON SA RED (VA) [37.57]12 NJ WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) [37.46]11 UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) [37.51]11 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) [37.35]10 SOUTH SHORE SELECT FC AP (MA) [37.43]10 SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) [38.62]8 CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD (PAW) [37.30]6 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE FLAMES (NJ) [37.12]6 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) [38.03]6 PREMIER SC NAVY STRIKERS (MD) [37.91]6 SUSA ISA NPL (NYE) [37.68]
New ECNL Clubs for the 2017-2018 season11/2/2016 Classics Elite (TX)10/31/2016 Carolina Rapids (CA)10/28/2016 FC Pride (IN)8/29/2016 Florida Elite Soccer Academy (FL)8/29/2016 Florida Kraze Krush (FL)8/24/2016 Riverhounds Development Academy (PA)8/22/2016 Tennessee SC (TN)8/9/2016 Elite Girls Academy (NE) 8/3/2016 Davis Legacy (CA)
And more to come.
Why is NJ Wildcats Averbuch playing u16 at Disney? Their team is a 2002 team because of age change ? NJ Wildcats Fury is their u16 team. Can teams play up at this tournament?
11:17 They are using u14 results and all those GS points that mean nothing to get a better flight that Fury can. Fury results should be used for U17Averbuch played u14 with 01s and 02s so in theory their results can't be used for 2002 events since they had 01s playing and 01s can't play down.Gotsoccer puts teams in flights based on their points then it's up to the event to shift them around if they want.9:50 you really think more to come? They are adding 9 already. None to the Northeast yet. I can see the Riverhounds playing the OH teams
6:52 - GS shows the amount of games played. There are some including other age groups that have already played over 45 games and more to come. This is just the items recorded in GS not including items that aren't reported to them. And, some may be in the top tier and some are not.
Younger Age groups? Games played44 NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE41 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK39 STA 2001G NPL39 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL 38 SUSA ELITE G0136 NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01 FREEDOM NPL36 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP35 MERCER FC 01 SPURS30 SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY30 PIPELINE SC BLACK25 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/0226 PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) 26 1776 UNITED FC XTREME24 OAKWOOD SC ATTACK NPL 0126 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/0223 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS - DELETE28 MASSAPEQUA NPL '01 COSMOS20 CENTURY V 01 GOLD26 SYRACUSE DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SDA 200118 GBFC 01 SELECT25 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT 25 BRUNO UNITED FC GIRLS 2001 RED21 SUSA ISA NPL G01 Let's add 9 games for the 3 ECNL showcases each team does and 22 regular season games from last season.This does not include Post- Season and Finals,right on par with non-ECNL teams10 + 31 = 41 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 017 + 31 = 38 MCLEAN ECNL
Of course more teams will come into ECNL between now and AugustWe dont know yet which DA teams will pass on having both DA and ECNL
The ECNL says you cant be both ECNl and GDA unless you had 3 teams in champions league. That leaves most teams out except those superclubs they have already named as keeping their ECNL teams. So expect more "mergers" like the ones in NorCAl and Florida where one "club" arm keeps the ECNL designation and the other the GDA. Expect thats the main reason CFC and PF are looking to merge. CFC "branch" of the mother club keeps ECNL and PF "branch" keeps GDA. A flavor for everyone.
6:52 - I am not sure where you are getting your info on some of this, but here is a PAGS example of the fall bracket for U15. http://pags.org/_element_display/#%2F80748%2Fschedules%2F2016%2F83818698.html%3Fdummy%3D1482247793895The season is 9 games, plus playoffs. You may be referencing the PAGS short season, but the fall is a full schedule of league/division games. https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=448068 These PAGS games not listed on this anywhere; but 25 games are listed. I am not using this team as one that has played more than 45 games already (it's a good team and a good club), but as you can see the systems aren't perfect in picking up everything. Just an example of how some games/leagues are in season and results are not posted in GSP or Youth Soccer Rankings. So, some teams are playing more games than actually reflected.
9:18 - I think this will make NPL a stronger option, too.
12;17 @ 4:54 - how is my post misleading? Like yourself, I took the verbiage directly from the rules. The out of conference events in ECNL are used to determine wildcard places (like other sports use to determine wildcard spots if they have them i.e., NFL,...wildcard spots [overall record as conference/div champs are based on conference/div wins] Remember the NY Giants/Superbowl champs from their wildcard spot (overall NFL record). Also, these out of conference games (overall standings) also used to determine North American Cup qualifiers and the other national events at the end of ECNL season. The bottom line is that the out of conference games matter; unlike what you posted.
10:43 - agree. And, some states do indoor events/cups too that don't get any points or anything either and there are futsal leagues as well.
Region 1GIRLS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY CLUB DIRECTORY 2017-2018NWSL Clubs = 5 (3 with ECNL teams)Boston Breakers Academy Sky Blue - PDAWashington Spirit Academy MarylandWashington Spirit Academy VirginiaWestern New York Flash Academy 6 clubs with ECNL teamEast Meadow SCFC Fury FC StarsFC VirginiaPenn Fusion Soccer AcademyWorld Class FC5 Non-ECNL clubsCedar Stars Academy - MonmouthEmpire United Soccer AcademyOakwood Soccer ClubPA ClassicsVirginia Development AcademyBBA, PDA, Stars are top teams at this age group that won't have an impact ouside of the ECNL. EUSA and Oakwood will have a minimum impact as 1 is Us Club and the other USYSA .I know some of you are expecting teams to change a bunch, I am not. In NJ the PDA ECNL team will lose 10-15 players and add 10-15 from their NPL teams. Cedar Stars might have a huge face lift as their teams are not DA material plenty of opportunities for approx 15 girls - so in NJ you lose maybe 30 girls from this age group. In PA PennFusion will lose their 10-15 players to GDA and probably replenish with CFC Delco and FC Bucks ECNL players that want to add a GDA club to their resume. PA Classics will add from local clubs not sure there is much they can improve on. But what do i know only time will tell us what happens.So for this Age Group I think PennFusion becomes the top ECNL teambut outside of them I don't see much of a change.The 3 NY ECNL clubs all got a GDA team so if there wasn't movement before I don't we will see it now.looking forward to the Spring season and watching those YSR rankings, so for my kids team (final scores) played within those rankings. So I kind of like them, even the games that their score dropped if they finished then they would have covered the spread. Wow I feel dirty talking point spreads and youth soccer.
Knowing the area, Penn Fusion will probably pick up skilled/talented kids too from some of the surrounding premier USYS clubs. All of it makes for some very interesting next few years. Grab your popcorn.
I'm guessing the most talented players from around the Harrisburg area will now go to PA classics . No need to go to Penn Fusion anymore .
There are players immediately around Penn Fusion, too. Several high level USYS teams within a few miles. But, some kids/parents may still make the travel from Classics' area because of the product already in place w/PF. Time will tell. Plenty of soccer for everyone.
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