Monday, April 23, 2018

U18 (2000) Girls Youth Soccer

This page is focused on Under 18 girls youth soccer, primarily in Region 1 and everyone is invited to post.

Teams face increased competition for the top players, (who are increasingly attending college showcases).

More teams consolidate and the best teams--academy soccer, club soccer and high school teams--battle to attract and retain the right player mix.

Stay tuned. This is bound to be good.

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Anonymous said...

how many parents picked the school or allowed the kid to pick it? how many picked the soccer school over the education and soccer school?

Anonymous said...

how do the ones leaving early deal with all of this on an accelerated platform? it's got to be stress x2.

Anonymous said...

944 My kid picked it and we had no input. I can tell you that IF we had disagreed with the choice we would certainly have said something. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

951 Usually they are getting classes out of the way and training. Dont think it adds to the stress at all. In fact quite the opposite

Anonymous said...

got it. like fall sports that arriving on campus early. and i guess not fighting crowds at bookstore and stores for dorm items.

Anonymous said...

729
Not much to talk about because the US currently "fit" A team played the Canada up and comers sprinkled with a vet or two. It wasn't serious competition. Herdman used it as a development and assessment tool. JE used it to save her job...

Anonymous said...

ill throw one to the PF folks. Talking YNTs and the significance ( or lack of it in the big picture) How many College CBs have had a better season that McClernon. What a player and not a YNT cap to her name.

Anonymous said...

121 Every one seems to understand how to use friendlies to find out more about your team and its players. The US are the only country who seems to vary what they mean and generally learn nothing from them. They beat their chests when they win and call it experimentation when they lose.

I dont see what we learned from those CAD games other than Fleming is a big player and Herdman has a clear plan for building into the future. Ellis has taken a bunch of players to camp to see them at OB - how many have we seen in games? Either they cant teach it or the players she picked cant do it or she does not have the guts to live with the performance. All are terrible indictments of her plan and coaching.

US get a 2/10 for roster building and development. You flu Sonnet 12k miles to not play. Its just terrible player management. I would not trust her to run a hot dog stand.

Anonymous said...

148
McClernon has an edge
The edge is part of what makes her special
YNT coaches want robots not edgy kids
She's at the right place to develop and be presented
For opportunity when it counts
Great player

Anonymous said...

Shouldn't the Baltimore Washington Das be upset with the USSF?

USSF head DA scout is a age group coordinator coach for McLean.

And how many mclean kids are at YNT u18/19 camps? and how many from baltimore Washington Das?

hard to keep a straight face when heinrichs says;

SA: I got an e-mail from a parent whose daughter is with an ECNL club, but one that is not going to the Girls DA. The parent is trying decide whether the girl should switch to a DA club because the parent is worried that if she doesn’t switch from her ECNL club, the girl won’t be scouted by national team coaches …

APRIL HEINRICHS: That’s a question I got yesterday. A mother of a girl not in Development Academy club, asking if she should move …

Here’s what I said: Your daughter’s 13 years old. The most important thing is her happiness. If your daughter is happy now, continue to find a solution where she’s happy. If she’s asking to be more challenged, then the Girls Development Academy is the option for her.

We’re launching in 2017, when she’ll be 14, so she could play on a Girls Development Academy team next year, or do it the next year.

I think what parents have to do is sift through clubs that promote themselves and are very structured and organized and, in fact, recruit players, which is in the end a good thing. And here’s the simple answer from me: Do you think your daughter’s college-bound? And if she is, she should play on a Girls Development Academy team.

Because in college soccer, those girls are getting “paid” $30,000, $50,000, $60,000 a year [in scholarship] to play college soccer. College coaches want their future players to be in the Girls Development Academy.

If I had a daughter who wasn’t Division I college-bound, I’d just want her to happy and play soccer for as long as she can.

I hear ECNL Phoenix kept all the college coaches AND USYNT scouts/coaches and was as well run as usual. ECNL not giving up and probably shouldn't since the USSF isn't even really committed to it.

Anonymous said...

got lost in 5:35's post. Who said what???

Anonymous said...

535 Go look at the daily recaps on TDS of ECNL Phoenix. It shows you just how hard the ECNL has been hit. NCAAs going on. top schools are busy but the rest have time on thier hands, and given they are no in the last 32, all the more reason to attend. USSF will go anywhere, nothing to lose and thy are still selecting non GDA kids as they should.

As far as giving up, why? personally i thin they should cooperate gracefully, but they wont.

Anonymous said...


Hearing a FREE DA and GDA coming to Central PA. If this is the case and Schulz is running the program you will NOT see players traveling to Baltimore and West Chester for GDA. It would also hit Classics very hard.


Rush has partnered with George Altirs and the ownership group in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to make its USL club the official professional team at the top of the Rush Soccer pyramid. The Harrisburg City Islanders, who have played in various versions of USL since 2004, will be rebranded as Penn FC beginning in the 2018 USL season, and the goal is for that club to serve as the first stop for players across the Rush soccer family.

“There’s now a professional path for our players,” Schulz told FourFourTwo USA. “The players currently there and the players who will get there from Rush, they are the role models for our 35,000 kids. … It’s a stepping stone for the players that are not quite ready for MLS or a team overseas. This would be a holding ground for our players at USL. One day, hopefully all of our players on first team will be from Rush clubs.”

“This is a great time to be a soccer fan in Pennsylvania,” said USL President Jake Edwards. “There is a lot of fantastic soccer history in Harrisburg, and the fans across the region have proven to be some of the most dedicated in the USL. Penn FC will build on the historic legacy of the City Islanders.”

Altirs, local owner Eric Pettis, and Rush Soccer — an international soccer organization comprised of 85 clubs in the U.S. and abroad — are a particularly exciting part of the new USL brand. Focused on player and product development, this group will elevate the level of professional soccer in the region and give Penn FC a unique position within the sport, putting the professional team at the top of the largest academy system in the world.

Led by Chairman Jérôme de Bontin, who previously served as Director of Ligue 1’s AS Monaco and General Manager at Major League Soccer’s New York Red Bulls, Rush Soccer has provided a major platform for players across the United States and overseas who will now have the potential to become Penn FC players of the future.

“It is difficult to imagine a professional soccer team without an academy — the academy is often referred to as the soul of the organization,” said de Bontin. “Rush Soccer has 40,000 members across the world, and by instilling their faith in us, Penn FC will have one of the largest networks in international soccer to scout from and hopefully develop into world class players for the professional team. Our President Tim Schulz and I have been pursuing a professional team for some time now, and have found it in Penn FC and George Altirs’ organization.”

Altirs will remain the majority owner of the club, but Rush aims to contribute financially in the future. For now, Rush gives Penn FC a wealth of youth partner clubs from which it can potentially benefit with “homegrown” players.

Anonymous said...

Interesting...Assuming you copied/pasted this, do you have the link?

Anonymous said...

So if these are friendlies and don't matter to Ellis, why not play the others? Don't think Ellis is nervous at all. If she moves out of head coaching, she'll get a gig on Fox commentating next to Bruce Arena. USSF is too busy with their presidential debates to give a hoot. classic.

Anonymous said...

8:43 why do you say ECNL has been hit hard based on recaps?

Anonymous said...

1150 They are friendlies. who said they dont matter to Ellis?

Anonymous said...

1154 you can see who is and who is not playing. you will always get competitive games, but some HS games are competitive as well but no one would mistake them for good soccer that will translate at the next level. Competition and overall quality are not the same. BOTH GDA and ECNL have been hit by the dilution

Anonymous said...

11:57 poster above commented that they vary as far as meaning for US (11:53 yesterday, maybe). i would think cups or prize winning have meaning whereas the scrimmages don't. miss the old group. new group not as exciting.
What was attendance for both games? Canadian stadium looked packed.

Anonymous said...

Asking question for those that want to reply. My daughter is not in this age group. Trying to gauge the level of interest she has from some schools. The school's still can't talk to her directly unless she reaches out to them. She hasn't called just emailed. Her coach was given some feedback and she talked to a few at their ID Clinics. A few schools (3) have come to multiple games (not the entire game - maybe a half). They all said the same thing she is doing well and they want to continue to watch her play with her club team. Flights haven't been an issue so far since they do show up when they say they are regardless of the flight. She is one of the younger girls on her team, does PT play a big part in the decisions made from your experiences?

So I guess besides an actual offer, how does she really know where she stands? Is it proper to ask? or do you just sit back and just continue sending emails and attending their clinics? Since you guys are ahead of the game figured I would ask.

Anonymous said...

12:55

The recruiting process for my daughter was unique based on conversations I have had. And this is a recap of our experience. At u15 she did not reach-out to any college coaches in the fall, after attending the December showcases and the beginning of league play there was interest in the form of emails generated by attending the showcase. She looked at the info and decided what “spam” she would answer and gauge interest. She attended a few winter ID sessions (local D1) as well as 1 D2 and 2 D3 clinics between January and April. For the Spring she sent her schedule and updated with the showcase information. Based on the sideline parent coaches inventory she had the list of who attended to compare against who she invited. For the most part either a head or assistant from each of the schools attended. She then went to one of the D1 Spring clinic’s as well as a D2 and 2 D3. All 4 coaches provided direct email feedback with “you are on our radar”. Fast forward to her offer, Of the 4 teams 3 stayed around until fall of senior year, one school landed a transfer but was still courting my daughter, when my daughter found out she stopped pursuing the opportunity. Decided on one of the D3 schools based on major, environment, coach (in that order). If you daughter is receiving high interest from good D1 programs you will know by spring of sophomore year and your club coach will be able to tell you what is legit or not. If you are not in talks with D1 going into Jr. year there is probably limited interest and you should start looking at options. I am sure you will get a few parents of ACC recruits providing a different story as each one is unique.

Anonymous said...

Ideally her club coach would reach out to the college coach and ask where they are with your child.

Anonymous said...

12:55
Our experience was very similar to 1:17
I'd add that your daughter, if she knows her major of interest, should narrow down schools as they reach out. If she can't see herself at that school or they don't have her major or are weak in her major, then she can write them off.
Parents, be realistic of your daughter's potential. Hopefully her coach has connections and experience and knows what "fit" is good for your daughter.

Anonymous said...

Recruiting is tough to give color on. You have to decide how important various things are to you and your family and no one her can do that. The best resource should be your Club. They should be able to tell you soccer wise if its a good fit.

The rest is purely personal. The one thing I will say is thee is a lot of BS spouted by people on forums who want to dress up their experience. Ignore it, its pretty obvious. The stuff I read above seems very genuine in its desire to help you which is great.

Anonymous said...

Much appreciated all. Thank You.

Anonymous said...

always remember, they are courting several kids for one spot. could be looking at kid on opponent as well when they came out. never know. it's a business.

Anonymous said...

3:43 of course could be from same team as well.

Anonymous said...

yes, of course.

Anonymous said...

One player makes all the difference Slick

Anonymous said...

?? EDP games?

Anonymous said...

Stallions won it all

Anonymous said...

Yeah and the competition was awesome!!

Anonymous said...

Still chasing gs points I see...
How was the college recruiting?
Isn't that what this is about at this point?

Anonymous said...

1007 No dog in the fight, but its about anything SC wants it to be. You must realize that all his teams are about him and his record. Every win allows him to add another family who buys in to that to his group. Not my type of set up, but wehn soccer is a business, this is one way to stay relevant with a certain demographic and keep up with the bigger Clubs

Anonymous said...

Now that is funny..."no dog in the fight but..."

Anonymous said...

what's the problem with having an opinion about the club without being in it? it's not a terrible assessment. isn't it true? it's more about show-ey not show-case. right? At least that is what I have heard as well. and if the parents and kids are okay with it, then what does it matter what anyone thinks?

Anonymous said...

1236 ..I wrote teh no dog post. The thing is its a Svengali, Jim Jones type set up. If you stay with him, you eventually feel like you cant leave. In my opinion he over coaches from the sidelines and creates a coach player dynamic that is not long term beneficial. Players dont think on their own. I know its a generalization, but we can look at his former star players and ask, where are they now soccer wise?

He makes kids and parents feel he is essential to their future success.as opposed to just a part of it. Its an ego/insecurity thing in my opinion. So when you say the parents are OK with it.....I mean I have seen and heard him dish out the most vile verbal abuse to kids who are still with him. Is it OK for parents to be OK with that ? I would not be ....

So as I said, no dog, but I would be very wary of any coach who does what he does and I stunned that people are ok with some if it. It shows what some will put up with in search of a scholarship.

Anonymous said...

i am 12:36. didn't know about the vile comments. i wouldn't put up with it either. i do hear other coaches yelling from the sidelines. not the only club that does it. and i agree that is unnecessarily at this age. constant chirping is more high school than high level club.

Anonymous said...

all that just cause he wont let Slicks kid on his team.....

Anonymous said...

At EDP walking across the fields and had a good laugh but was glad to see ref stand up and make the call....girl got yellow, got pissed and kicked the ball so ref walked up to her at which time she siad "f.. off" and she was gone!!!
Not enoough refs doing this anymore...won't name the team....
Most of the time the whistle stays in the pocket but they make the soft calls

Anonymous said...

321 Have you noticed that no one has defended him yet ?

Anonymous said...

6:54 AM

Kudos to that ref, I believe with the shortened games and the terrible conditions (especially on Sunday), the refs were encouraged to keep the games moving. Not a bad thing if they remain consistent throughout the game. At this age there is a certain chippiness and aggression that needs to be kept in check, but the physicality also needs to remain part of the game. After this weekend I am glad that it is probably the last time we will be at Tuckahoe.

Anonymous said...

Love Tuckahoe, especially when really dry and windy! Don't forget to wash your car before you go :)
Oh and so many activities and fun things to do in the neighborhood!!

Anonymous said...

8:39 re the comments that are vile, why doesn't the league put a stop to it?

Anonymous said...

1145 because no one has the guts. why are we only now hearing about Weinstein? People find ways of rationalizing this type of behavior or quietly accepting it. "well, he did not do it to my kid" . "He cares" . "it was in the heat of the game, he apologized after".

No one has anything to gain by doing the right thing. parents ON the team dont want to mess with recruiting. parents not on the team dont want to speak up. I think you could take a poll of kids/parents who have played against his teams over the years , kids/parents on his teams and not one person would deny that he speaks to kids in a manner that is quite unacceptable at times.

Anonymous said...

it's crazy what some parents will accept. we pay the fees not other way around. these parents are basically saying it's okay to speak to you that way. would they want their daughter to let boyfriend or girlfriend speak that way or treat her that way? by not opposing they are condoning.

Anonymous said...

what do you mean by unacceptable? making them mentally tough not a problem; being creepy or "vile" as someone said over the line.

Anonymous said...

12:12 PM

Different team but how about this one. Head coach at U16 does not pass on genuine college interest to at least 1/2 a dozen players. Ivy League, D1 power schools and ACC, as well as other local schools. There was also some collusion with the parents to get their kids looks over the others. This was not realized until April of the u17 season. The coach mysteriously was replaced and then the information came to light. Most missed opportunities to pursue as the college coaches moved on with other players. This coach remains with the club in a non-coaching capacity.

Anonymous said...

1247 you need to define what it is to you and thats the point. Parents involved will rationalize. Is it ok to humiliate a player in front of everyone by saying things like - just get off the field ! Id rather play with 10. You may as well be playing for the other team. . Is that ok to you ?

1248 would need more details. Coaching is a subjective business. There have been many times when a coach , when asked about player A may say, shes ok , but player B is much better. Who are we to argue? I know kids who have been repeatedly passed over for NT inclusion becasue the coach wanted to get others involved - it happens

Anonymous said...

1:04 PM

12:48 here, it sounds like you either know the guy and benefited or have an odd perspective and acceptance of collusion. We aren't talking the 15-20 bench players, these were girls who started and contributed, they just weren't part of the new clique that came in. Some of the girls were with the team from u14 or before. Most of them are not committed to good programs, but that does not forgive the coach for not passing on information. It was not his opinion they were asking for and if he did present the players as having any issues, he was way out of line. These players were not only top players they were top people and good families. There only negative is that they were not in his pocket. Some of the girls were able to get back the interest by reaching out directly to the college coach and having a difficult conversation when they mentioned that there club coach said you weren't interested. So it was not a judgment call by the club coach, it was deceit.

Anonymous said...

the problem is the definition of coach. not all people in coaching positions are true coaches. that is why some clubs rotate coaches away from teams. different eyes. keeps it a little more legit.

Anonymous said...

ut oh. seems like a sideline fight brewing.

happens in a lot of clubs, unfortunately. coaches want to get all their kids recruited; so if kid A is on his/her team and kid B on another that coach may just undersell kid B for kid A or may oversell kid A.
it would be nice if NCAA would allow the coaches with true interest to send a note to the kids directly during summer going into soph year and copy club. then there is no clog in the system.

Anonymous said...

139 ..104 here. I have no idea who you are, what the Club you are referring to. I would have no idea even if it happened at our Club becasue i concern myself with my own kid and the coach would have no reason to tell me or any other parent. Unless you are partt to the conversations, you only have hearsay to go on as to how they went down. Sometime s I regret responding to comments becasue you get idiotic answers like yours accusing anonymous people of having inside information to a problem that impacts you personally. Coaching is personal and MANY coaches are kept whole by manipulating the system to benefit the parents who pay them the most - whether thats cold hard cash for extra training or soft stuff like hey , use my beach house.

If you follow the money, you will usually find out whats going on. For the record, its insecure parents of good kids or parents of marginal kids who feel the need to get a leg up. If a kid is really talented, this stuff, whilst annoying, does not impact them much. College coaches find premium talent.

Anonymous said...

i had no idea this stuff was going on.
I get the extra training thing so the coach needs to prove hey my extra training is worth it so kids may get more playing time over others, but this beach house and overpaying fees? wtf.

Anonymous said...

wow, we pay our fees, my kid contributes to the team success and has the opportunity of getting better. thought that is what this was all about.
next kid, lacrosse. none of this soccer bs

Anonymous said...

Do your own legwork, research.

Dont have your kid work out with/play for just one coach over time. GET outside training/opinions. May even lead to your college of choice.

Dont let the club coach control the conversations with colleges. If you are skeptical of the coach and his methods, do not CC him when communicating with the coaches of the colleges you prefer. And do not feel you need to keep them in the loop.

Do NOT tell everyone that will listen which colleges you are talking to. Be vague.... maybe talk conferences......if you need to say something.

Do not put your eggs in 1, 2, 3 baskets. Have a multi-tiered plan - and of course, a worst case school you can attend with pride. Starting up after everyone says no may be difficult - and falling prey to "I know I will play there" as opposed to "I'd love to play there" can be very detrimental.

Last - appropriate for this week - be thankful. Dont forget to express to the people who have mattered to you.

Anonymous said...

The drop also happened with my daughter but it all worked out in the end bc she did her own leg work. Luckily she ended up at a multi-school ID camp where interested coach happened to be....we then found out the communication was not passed on to her.
I agree with other posters, this YOUR daughter and you're paying fees so look out for her. Trust BUT verify!!

Anonymous said...

every case is different. This all comes down to surrounding your child with the right, trustworthy people. Too many people have no idea HOW to evaluate a Club or a coach. They do it basis who wins. In the ideal College process, your kid drives it and she relies on parents and coaches for advice/help.

Anonymous said...

The recruitment integrity game is more about the individual coach than the club. I know some really top clubs with coaches who have failed to pass through information to the kids for reasons ranging from just carelessness to frank steerage. I have seen others in the same club who have held the kids hands through the process and negotiated aggressively for them.

Anonymous said...

is it june yet? almost there; almost there.

Anonymous said...

Anyone on this blog go to Disney or NEWSS? Thoughts? Worth it or not?

Anonymous said...

Anytime you can play in front of coaches it's a good thing.
If school's of choice are there it's a good thing.
If school's that your kid isn't interested in - then they help their team get their looks. Win Win from that angle only.

PS. this is what happens when we stop talking results - no one cares anymore because recruiting is individual and no one is going to share stories.

Anonymous said...

agreed. but what percentage of kids this age are still uncommitted? ballpark? are the coaches still coming to watch this age group?

Anonymous said...

There are 2018s committing to good soccer schools every week

Anonymous said...

didn't know. good. that has to be stressful; not knowing where to apply. how many kids are walk-ons?

Anonymous said...

Deals arent often reported, if ever.

But a walkon could get the same deal as a recruited player, since they get financial aid, while the recruited player would not (parental contribution off FAFSA doesnt change)

Anonymous said...

same deal? would be curious how often this occurs.

Anonymous said...

anyone hear about coaching changes going on at the different colleges now that we are down to final four?

Anonymous said...

Interesting question.

So what happens to those kids being recruited by a coach that is now gone?
No offers no big deal, but does the new coach honor verbals made by the old coach. I'm not sure anyone can blame the new coach if they don't. Sucks for the kid.

What if a kid likes a school, and the school doesn't have a new coach, who does the kid invite? The assistants (will they still be there)?



Anonymous said...


The college does not have to honor a verbal. If the new coach wants to wipe verbal commitments clean they can. Most AD's will suggest that the new coaching staff bring in the high school seniors. Juniors and younger.....good luck.

Anonymous said...

okay so UConn head coach retired, right? who else "retired"?

Anonymous said...

Heard Pitt HC gone too. is this true? long time coming.

Anonymous said...

Marist and Fairfield head coaches gone also. Tis the season

Anonymous said...

JMU and UConn coaches did retire. No pressure from AD's. The others listed not as lucky.

Portland
UConn
JMU
William & Mary
Pitt
UMass
Army
Miami, OH
East Carolina
Richmond
Towson
Austin Peay
Northwestern State
South Dakota
New Mexico State
Marist
Incarnate Word
Youngstown
Prairie View A&M
UMBC
Fairfield
North Dakota State

Anonymous said...

heard UConn did retire, too, but don't you think lawsuit had/has effect on recruiting. and comes back to hc. know several kids that became disinterested after.

Anonymous said...

probably a few more openings by end of the year. any thoughts about replacements re the openings. asst coaches stepping in or is there a search going on?

have to keep telling the kids pick the school not the coach. the rotation wheel doesn't stop.

Anonymous said...

My daughter played at Newss, first time ever. She played with 01 team, but she is on an 00 team as an 01 hence why on board. Newss was great on Saturday due to weather. Our field location was great because bathrooms, snack stand, easy to get to, no traffic, plenty of parking on fields. I rate all of that at every tournament we go to. We all hate port o johns, even recruiters, believe me. It makes it much easier to recruit with regular bathrooms, ask any recruiter. Otherwise all D III coaches from what I saw and heard. Duke, Clark, Desalle. And a few others I forgot from NY and NJ and PA. I like for NY, NJ and CT and PA that it is local, no flights or long drives. Hotels were reasonable. My daughter was not exhausted from driving or flying. We have been to Disney, Bethesda, Jeff Cup, CASL, and even nationals once recently. This was nice to tell you the truth

Anonymous said...

Sounds like it was a good experience. hopefully she finds herself a nice college program from it as well. thanks for the info.

Anonymous said...

Good luck to the teams going to CASL. If anyone can add perspective on Disney and/or CASL in the new era of multiple "top' leagues please share.

Anonymous said...

The only results for CASL or Disney at U-18 are who has been contacted by a college because of this event. The score doesn't matter and how your team finished doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

I think with all of these tournaments you have to measure the team before you go on it. In other words are they planning on going to Disney, CASL, Bethesda, Chicago, VA. Or are they going to play local, Newss, EDP, PA or NY showcases. In the end if you are on a team that decides to go to far away tournaments you go, end of story, or quit team. I see fewer and fewer NJ teams at the far events.

Anonymous said...

1034 who said anything about results? Since apparently i have to spell it out, I was asking about quality of teams, recruiting presence, overall vibe. Yes I know many are committed already but often the coaches come by to see a committed player to keep tabs on their development.

Anonymous said...

1034 who said anything about results? Since apparently i have to spell it out, I was asking about quality of teams, recruiting presence, overall vibe. Yes I know many are committed already but often the coaches come by to see a committed player to keep tabs on their development.

Anonymous said...

Time for a change at TCNJ he totally blew it today,with the new age of soccer he was out coached, with the talent on the team the season should not be over

Anonymous said...

what happened?

Anonymous said...

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/high-school-soccer-article/hs:-indiana-girls-dominate-in-west-victory_aid43506

All American game in NC today; West beat East 6-1. Ouch.

Anonymous said...

It was in FL not NC this year. Was it at same location as College Cup?

Anonymous said...

It was HS All American, right? Nice accolade girls.congratulations.
The United Coaches AA and AllRegion teams don't play any games i heard.

Anonymous said...

12/1 - 10:26 pm - score was 1-0 v Chicago. Chicago is a very good team. TCNJ had a good run.

Anonymous said...

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/stanford-edges-past-ucla-for-ncaa-title_aid43513

1900 attended the finals. good number or low? thoughts?

when held in NC, the stadium was packed from the CASL and NL kids. not sure why soccer doesn't work together to promote the sport instead of competing against itself. weren't other soccer divisional finals held in NC? why not have all together and have a soccer superbowl atmosphere? how does that hurt the sport?

Anonymous said...

worst attendance in a long time. You are talking about co-operation. Something that no soccer groups have managed to effectively pull off int eh USA in years.

HS AA game is the pinnacle of awards for all. Seniors only and with the regional dilution of HS soccer, time the game was phased out. Very few of the 2018 grad yrs best payers in the game.

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Anonymous said...

thought Hildreth and Foudy were great as commentators. thought it was interesting that ESPN brought in Hildreth who is usually on Fox. It was great.
Maybe soccer can take a hint (as noted above the lack of cooperation in the sport).

Anonymous said...

1222 you make it sound like AC had a choice.

Anonymous said...

1245 I guess each to their own. I thought they were awful. I want commentary, not cheer leading. I dont mind the human interest stuff in the pregame,, but I dont like it cluttering the game.

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Anonymous said...

1:45 sometimes a human interest story is good to hear now and then. you get backstory at every sporting event, including WC (guys and gals). why should this be different. it's good to give kids an example of perservance. makes it real; these are kids/young ladies.

Eric Harris said...

Speaking of the High School All-American game and being there watching it…. I would say I have a better perspective of what I thought I was going to see and what I actually saw. First of all, great accomplishment for all the girls involved in this event and big shout out to the women and men that put this together in the past few years to give our girls something for their efforts during their high school careers. As far as things that annoyed me and others was the fact that they had kids playing for the West that were actually East players but for the simple fact to even out numbers they put some random players to the West to even it out. Yikes………. I mean this is an EAST vs WEST thing correct lol lol but okay it is what it is and sure they start the game that way but really got me laughing and kinda like scratching my head was the fact that during the game they actually let goalies play for both teams and just subbed let them flip teams……………. WHAT THE HECK……………. totally crazy and totally a head shaker. They would never do that on the boy’s side I don’t think and if they did or do that’s really sad but hey.
Know what I would like to see, is an ALL-STATE Soccer game here in NJ which would be something that I know people have talked about but I am going to talk about it as they haven’t lol lol. I think we really need to get this going here in NJ and a couple of venues that I see fitting for the game would be Monmouth University, TCNJ for examples. They are nice size venues that wouldn’t overwhelm and certainly create an environment that would intimate enough to make it feel bigger. I buddy of mine even suggested maybe Princeton. Although I really like Rutgers I just think that would be too big of a stadium setting where it might now feel as intimate. Also, I think and nothing against any of the GREAT male coaches out there that coach the game and coach these female athletes but I would like to see an all-female staff along with and all female ref crew. I don’t care if there are 10 coaches with each side saying NORTH/SOUTH. I know there are a lot of players to choose from so what about the idea of have a Non-Public All-Star game and Public School separate event. I mean I was coming up with all sorts or ideas like Non-Public vs Pubic, Monmouth County vs Ocean County, etc and what about this all you have to do to be eligible is play 1 year of High School soccer to be nominated for the game. So in this case you could have played Varsity as freshmen and then choose lets just say Club soccer or DA for the remaining of your high school. Now I know that will cause a lot of controversy but this way at least we can have a good conversation and I know there are plenty of SOCCER brains on this forum who actually could get something like this going. Now it may not be for our girls that are 2018 Grads but how fun would it be to say that hey you actually did something for our STATE that will benefit the young ladies that will come through this great state. Anyway I hope everyone enjoys and of I was down at the women’s College Cup and I was amazed……………but not surprised that 9 UCLA players took a knee (WHICH I RECORDED on my cellphone) but also one of their coaches or trainers took a knee as well. PEOPLE in the stands were VERY UPSET……..

Eric Harris

Anonymous said...

i saw the AA hs rosters and was questioning the NJ kid that was playing for west. thought maybe she was a transplant from west to east coast hs. TDS has the rosters as well.

so kneeling at the Cup finals?? and AC was okay with it?

Anonymous said...

......and UCLA lost.

Boo-yah! Karma.

Anonymous said...

EH ..its a good idea, just not sure we need more soccer.

Eric Harris said...

Yeah I know we have a lot of soccer lol lol but me being a football guy and seeing all these post season events for High School players it would be kinda neat and special to give these young ladies something that they can look forward to entering High School. I heard that they have a boys ALL-State game. I think I heard that they hosted it at Cedar Stars. I was talking to a college coach buddy of mine down in Florida that got my wheels spinning.

Eric Harris

Anonymous said...

Feeling nostalgic as this will be the last College showcase tournament this weekend at PA Classics. Looks like a good group with a lot of high competition. Good luck to all attending.

Anonymous said...

Last showcase or last PAC showcase?
Will be a cold one for sure!
Bring your shovels to clear the lines at halftime and between games!

Anonymous said...

Last PAC showcase. Don't mind the cold, hoping there's no snow on the ground however. The tie in with being in Lancaster this time of year is a nice touch, we usually come back home with a Christmas tree.

Anonymous said...

I for one look forward to the 8am game!!

Anonymous said...

Drew short straw, I should be in FL with other daughter....
Paybacks coming...

Anonymous said...

3-8 loss for PF in opening round game in FL. Now that is terrible. Sky Blue not much better. This is a good indicator of the level of competition in the GDA U18/19 group. Both PF and Sky Blue look good as big fish in their small Mid-Atlantic division pond; get out into the sea and see decent teams and worthy YNT level players. Welcome to reality.

Anonymous said...

NL is now the top leauge at this age

Anonymous said...

NL now top leauge at this age

Anonymous said...

Other than PA Strikers not much going on in the NL league.

PF U18/19 lost again today 1-4.

Anonymous said...

239 its pretty comical when people in our region tell us that the GDA is a failure and the best players stayed in the ECNL. Conceding 8 goals vs anyone is pretty humbling. ...12 in 2 games.

Anonymous said...

@12/8 10:38
So did yo get your xmas tree? You had plenty of time once the games were canceled bc of snow...
Told you the shovel was a good idea...

Anonymous said...

No tree but had a great breakfast at Knight and Day diner.

Anonymous said...

Nice place, gotta love Greek restaurant owners!

Many teams upset about the cancel but tis the time of year....

Anonymous said...

for PA Classics, why don't they try and re-schedule for this weekend? no, or even next Saturday perhaps 23rd?

Anonymous said...

so 3rd place nike friendly finish for U20's. Here we go again.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, weekend of xmas is a great idea for a showcase!!!
Funny stuff!

Anonymous said...

Daughter is on break til after holidays! No indoor, nothing...hard to believe!
Y'all enjoy!!

Anonymous said...

How does that work? were people given enough time to cancel travel and lodging without being charged cancellation fees re the classics and other rescheduled events?

Anonymous said...

Can't reschedule until dead period is over anyway. Is dead period DI and DII only or for all NCAA divisions?

Anonymous said...

Is the dead period not applicable for boys? don't they have ECNL games coming up over the holidays? so many moving parts.

Anonymous said...

Any new adds to that list posted end of November as far as coaching posts that are open? Any filled? Good fills or just political appoints?

Anonymous said...

3:36 RE classics
First day began on schedule, most teams got at least one game in. They were hoping to make up and continue the next day but had to cancel.

Anonymous said...

William and Mary and PITT vacancies filled with top flight vet coaches.

Anonymous said...

Waldrum to Pitt is a game changer. He had a bit of an advantage in name and facilities at ND, but he should be able to get Pitt beyond its ACC embarrassment stage and at least beat Duquesne.

Anonymous said...

It will take some time. The other guy really turned off too many kids, including my own. An ego that could not match reality. Pitt is the pits, though. Stadium is awful.
JS for W&M is a game changer as well. Really liked her at Princeton. She was very successful at FCVA DA too. Surprised she didn't go for an NWSL job, though.

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Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

http://equalizersoccer.com/2018/01/04/bush-on-uswnt-january-roster-this-is-it/

Author of article finds roster disappointing. Surprise, surprise!

Anonymous said...

Article is interesting but comments are better.

Some comments talk about 00 kids on NT's and DA that haven't played any DA games yet like Pinto for Tophat. S Smith and J Howell from Real Col have played a few for their DA squad. But how many is enough? But how does that work? Are they allowed to show up for the end of year games? Do you have to play a minimum amount of league games to be eligible for end of year games? Anyone know the rule?

ECNL lets kids that graduated early come back to play post season games. MI Hawks last year had girls that played spring ball at college come back and win ECNL championship. Did this change?

What is to prohibit a club with DA and ECNL from sending kids to ECNL if they fail to qualify for post season in DA?

Anonymous said...

Daughter in fl for ecnl. Weather pretty good. Think warm thoughts fellow region 1 group.

Anonymous said...

saw kids sporting their ECNL Alum shirts. Guess ECNL is getting out in front of the "who will claim this kid contest" after they graduate. Bahahaha what a mess.

Anonymous said...

Slick must have the wildcat girls this weekend?

Anonymous said...

So no discussion on PA Classics and recent acquisitions? Good move for them. Any others in play?

Anonymous said...

Not really an acquisition
And about 7-10 years late
Two sided pride stopped them from doing this back in the day when they should have...

Anonymous said...

Uh maybe because not many people are aware of this motion?

Anonymous said...

still 2nd rate club

Anonymous said...

That's the whole point Einstein.
This move has done nothing. It may have good ramifications down the road 5-10 years.
If this had occurred when idea was entertained a few years ago, all the girls who have migrated would have stuck around. There have been some solid teams at both clubs that disintegrated inn the last 2 years, with girls looking for a better opportunity somewhere that at least appeared to care about the girls' programs.

Anonymous said...

Correct me if I am wrong, but as I remember it, the initial talks in what 2011 or so were PAClassics takes all the boys and PL takes the girls. PL made an ECNL bid at that time with that merger model highlighted and the ECNL designation went to Penn Fusion with their WCUSC and Spirit United merger. Both Classics and PL girls programs tanked do to a combination of disinterest (classics) and competition (Penn Fusion).
Now Classics is in catch up mode for the Lancaster, Harrisburg, and Reading top kids. I personally think that at least for Lancaster and Harrisburg where the travel is significantly reduced, that Penn Fusion will have an uphill climb to keep these kids flowing in. Sooner or later Classics will get an HMMS and/or LDC core to augment its u13 or so teams and have great success. From there the difference in relative success between the clubs will seem to no longer outweigh the additional travel and there will be no return. Classics should bring in a couple really good girls coaches as good at marketing and management as they are at coaching and I suspect the shift won't be far in the future.
Penn Fusion should be doing everything possible to make the travel as minimal as they can for these western kids or they will diminish sooner rather than later.

Anonymous said...

11:02
Most important part of your comment....

"Classics should bring in a couple really good girls coaches as good at marketing and management as they are at coaching and I suspect the shift won't be far in the future."

Add a good admin person and it has decent chance to recover...

Anonymous said...

11:02 kids travel from all over to play at PF including from other states as well. are they supposed to accommodate all the players and their travel? get real.

Anonymous said...

How many kids are PF getting, or have gotten the last few years? Enough numbers or talent that would've made a difference at Classics?

Anonymous said...

1214 I saw 1102 as suggesting including local options for non training activities. Penn Fusion requires attendance at a lot of non team training events. For example they could allow Internet go to meeting for film review, or allow local concussion screening or local fitness training instead of participating in a commercial fitness provider in West Chester. These suggestions would apply to all kids traveling from a set radius or some other determination. I doubt anyone is suggesting trying to pick a training time or place that suits everyone.

Anonymous said...

i agree, but do other club teams do that already? i don't think many do it and they have kids traveling from all over to attend too.
it's part of the craziness of club soccer and has been for years. if you are lucky enough to find a team that fits your needs locally, you are the exception not the norm, sadly.

Anonymous said...

i agree with the concussion stuff. that's just a test, right? the fitness, maybe if it's a legit place. but want to make sure the kids are doing it correctly and track their progress as far as improvement or weaknesses.
the film though. maybe a skyping session and then a group session. i'm a believer that you need the group present and then, ideally, going to a field after to work on the fixes.
our high school had more film study than my kid's club team. our team doesn't do it nearly enough. seeing your play or not in film makes you accountable as well as teaching the game.

Anonymous said...

6:51 - i hear ya. just keep saying to yourself, it's almost over. i'm going to miss watching my daughter and her teammates and friends. i'm not going to miss the other stuff. can't wait for college.

Anonymous said...

916 Agree most do not. I think the issue is that Penn Fusion should be proactive to show that they do think outside the box in order to keep people driving past PAClassics

Anonymous said...

1:26
Please explain....who are you talking to?

Anonymous said...

Okay here's some information that useful:
Some proposed rule changes being reviewed at the NCAA convention which is taking place now in Indy. Some relate to different sports including soccer and proposals to extend start/end season dates.

One really interesting rule being tabled is for current and future athletes at P-5 schools. This change would require P-5 universities to provide medical care for athletically-related injuries for at least two years after an athlete leaves their university.

DI schools not in the Power Five group would have the option to follow the same rule, but would not be required to do so. Many believe that a lot of the conferences will adopt this as well to stay competitive.

Anonymous said...

Since PA Strikers will age out this year, will they start a new team as previous cycles? Is it still possible to start a new highly competitive one off team in 2018? Just curious on people's thoughts.Not the same teams as 3 years back but certainly had it"s day in the sun.

Anonymous said...

why? too many leagues now and too many other options. back in the day, great option. now, not anymore. know kids that turned down offers to play there even when free.
it's like ODP; had it's day until eclipsed by ECNL and GDA.

Anonymous said...

thanks 9:36. interesting NCAA potential rule updates. how can I find out status of vote? anyone an NCAA guru? t/y

Anonymous said...

Jeff cup top bracket is out

Anonymous said...

Ok, let's see it

Anonymous said...

6:03 I don't think you can have to many options. The more options the better. keep in mind that doesn't mean they are all equal. Better this way so kids don't fall through the cracks.

4:25 I'm sure they will try. For kids in that age group it's a good opportunity to play on a team with a proven track record of taking care of their players when it comes to college placement. They will find players some kids don't mind being roster depth some do.

9:36 any chatter about a Fall/Spring season for soccer or did that die?

9:07 goomba where have you been? OZ's 101st Avenue isn't the same without you :)

Anonymous said...

did ND coach resign recently? anyone know?

Anonymous said...

west coast tsunami warning after earthquake near Alaska.
maybe the different west coast showcase events will be moved.

Anonymous said...

heard same thing, ND is looking for new head coach. saw a statement somewhere.

Anonymous said...

Funny 7:55

Here's the info for ND

http://www.und.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/012218aac.html

Anonymous said...

Yeah, those man-cause climate change tsunamis are killers.
Ballistic missile warning on the way...

Anonymous said...

SLICK the new coach at ND

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the update. I thought he was running for USSF President. making velour sweatsuits popular again. say hello to my little friend....

Anonymous said...

No he is running for mayor of Brick

Anonymous said...

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2018/1/26/16937904/usa-scrapes-past-haiti-penalties-concacaf-semis-qualified-world-cup

congrats to the girls, but seriously? Going to PK's? Haiti doesn't invest any money in their national soccer teams and we have to go to PK's because the darlings can't hit a wide open net in regulation. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

She is not good enough sorry.

Anonymous said...

Another that will get buried in college landscape. how many of these next best things go to college and do nothing? most.

Anonymous said...

well, congrats to Mexico beating US U20 making history for it's country and beating the US to win the Concacaf Cup (1-1 in regulation; 4-2 PK's).

So some of these kids were a bust on the U17 WC team, but they are good enough (apparently no) for the U20 WC team? what's Einstein's definition of insanity again? doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result? so there's that. US Soccer is now in the rear view mirror instead of being the lead car.

Anonymous said...

After the last couple posts, here is a question:
This is for any of you who are, have been or will be involved with local school politics...

Are you, have you and will you be willing to take money from the football and basketball program at your school and invest in the soccer program?

If yes, then US soccer has a chance.
If no, then US soccer has a bleak outlook as current situation shows...

This is one of the many issues that contribute to the sad state of affairs of soccer in the US.

Anonymous said...

are you talking about public schools where the money is taxpayer money or are you talking about private where benefactors can deem the money to go to specific programs like soccer. We have wealthy soccer benefactors at our school so our soccer programs get the same as football and basketball. And since the soccer market caters to the wealthy (as many have claimed), you want to kiss up to the wealthy soccer fanatics.

Anonymous said...

Public

Anonymous said...

12:43 So sad but true.

I saw it last night vs BIH, our CB had the ball no pressure plenty of options and decided to play a long ball to nobody. BIH sat back and we can't break them down. This is because we don't have the coaches that understand the game. We have many College coaches and HS coaches but most of them only know what they Youtubed or googled. I get disappointed when ever I see cones at practice.

We have athletes that will run through a wall and have great skill - they just don't know how to use it.

Anonymous said...

Long ball has been a staple in US soccer but is slowly fading.
Playing out of the back and not punting so much is slowly making progress too.

Please do tell more about the cones...

Anonymous said...

not punting and playing out of the back..slowly making progress?? Where have you been? This has been the go to type of soccer for the past several years. My kid learned it as a U13 in ODP.

Anonymous said...

Continuing...but punting has its time and place as well depending on the pressure being applied.

Anonymous said...

11:00 yep, you are talking about a completely different set of skills...soccer iq.

Anonymous said...

11:00 haha are you talking about the orange object on the ground or the kids that have no idea what they are doing and others are running around them?

Anonymous said...

our pinnies aren't orange....

I've seen odp...playing out of the back? Really?

Anonymous said...

yep, what she learned years ago through ODP. good times, good times.

Anonymous said...

and she is part of the defense so that's how I can attest to the style.

Anonymous said...

11;52 I never said not playing out of the back. Zimmerman one of our better CBs had the ball around the half way mark. Instead of seeing the open people and maybe switching the field or trying to draw BIH out of their counter attack shell a staple of ex-YU soccer. he forced a ball to nobody.

Your kid learned it a U13 ODP? Good for her, playing out of the back is just part of it. Moving the other team around to create the play we want don't have our WNT can't do it and our MNT can't do it. They are both very skilled teams but have no idea on how to use that skill pal. Watch College soccer and you want to throw up. Watch the MLS and it's getting better because of the international flavor. Watch the NWSL and it's more throwing up.

Agreed 11:55 but I'm not talking about punting - I'm talking about forcing a play when the player has time to hold the ball switch the field or pull the other team out of their shell. Watch the Chicago Fire play, they are trying to do things the right way. Was happy to see Polster play last night, an attacking player converted to an outside back and it shows the value he brings to a position that wasn't his original.

11:59 we have many coaches training the proper way but yet the soccerIQ is not there. Why? To many HS coaches coaching club soccer? To many College coaches that were HS coaches coaching club soccer? I know you guys don't like this but the international guys bring something many of us just don't have they play soccer like it's a chess game not smash mouth.

12:01 yes both.

Anonymous said...

2:36 soccer is a chess match. agreed. I see many long/direct balls played in the international game though. the object is to win. at the end of the day, you need at least a point. so, over the top balls can still get you a goal and a point or three when played correctly.
very few play soccer the way you describe (the chess game) because once the ball reaches the top 1/3 of the field, kids don't want to wait; runners are already making their runs and will be offside if ball is held too long; most kids with the ball can't hold it too long without taking a shot. it's like an addiction. ball at feet; must shoot now. that's why we have (we as in US NTeams)20 shots and only 6 on goal. no need to take those shots, but they do. everybody wants to be in a highlight reel.

Anonymous said...

5:05 Agreed - we don't teach the game that way. Sometimes the quick strike is what's needed but 90 mins of it and you are very predictable easy to defend and game plan for. A good team can stop us, I just hate the fact that we don't rule CONCACAF anymore on the girls side and I'm still waiting for the 1st MLS title vs Mexican teams.

Anonymous said...

It's all soccer iq
The team is hopefully taught a proper game philosophy as a basis.
The players with proper iq and coach adapt to each game as needed.
Sometimes tight restrictions stifle the player's creativity.
Playing out of the back, maintaining possession, switching fields, drawing players out etc...is all good. That doesn't mean you can't send a long ball if you see your teammate ready to make a run or you lead your teammate with the through ball into that space just created by drawing the defense out....

And the best part, you take that shot on goal and score, you're the best...but you take that shot on goal and miss or skip the open pass to a better shot and you're a selfish idiot...:)


Anonymous said...

agreed. but using the example above 20 shots and only 6 on goal. surely at least 5 of those attempts may have had better options. and that's what the player needs to be able to figure out.
And, just using the Haiti vs. US U20 recent game, you have to make wide open net shots. if net is wide open, walk in the ball to make sure it gets there. no need to play with it, just hit it in.

Anonymous said...

I agree 7:39 & 8:34

It just drives me up a wall to see players with time going for the home run - I'm not saying don't do that. But when you have all the time in the world because the other team is in a shell that will never work but we still have players doing that instead of of making passes to shift the defense to set up a long ball or something else not just making passes to count how many we can connect. Also, why do players play the ball back into pressure at the HS age that should have been fixed let alone at the NT level.

I just think our gals and guys need to chill they have the skill to match anyone in the world we are our own worst enemy. It's okay to be 0-0 going into the 80th minute if you make that 1 count before the 90th.

More and more teams will do what Sweden did to us. They sit back and wait for us to do something we can't while hitting us on counters or forcing PKs where it's anyones game.

Anonymous said...

But why she is not committed yet?? Why?

Anonymous said...

2:30 serious question. Forget the D3 schools because all a kid needs to do is show up as a walk on and if they can ball they will be on the team.

But if a kid would like to play D1 or D2 when is the last time they look at these kids. February is when it becomes official. If plan B, C and so on are gone how long does a school have to fill a spot?

Anonymous said...

Funny stuff...just walk on at a D3 school!!
Give me some names of such schools please....

Anonymous said...

Not trying to diss D3 and i'm not the op, but I know kids that did just that. if they are good, they can. i'm sure not every D3 program, but it does happen. and the kids I know played in top 1/3 schools in the division.

Anonymous said...

6:54 so you can't answer my question?

You wanted some schools how about every school in the Skyline conference?

Mount Saint Mary
Farmingdale State
Mount Saint Vincent
St. Joseph's-Long Island
Purchase
St. Joseph's-Brooklyn
Sarah Lawrence
Old Westbury
Maritime
Yeshiva

or maybe Women's Mid-Atlantic Region Teams

Albright Reading, PA MACC
Alvernia Reading, PA MACC
Arcadia Glenside, PA MACC
Bryn Athyn Bryn Athyn, PA NEAC
Bryn Mawr Bryn Mawr, PA CC
Cabrini Radnor, PA CSAC
Cairn Langhorne, PA CSAC
Catholic Washington, DC LAND
Cazenovia Cazenovia, NY NEAC
Cedar Crest Allentown, PA CSAC
Centenary (N.J.) Hackettstown, NJ CSAC
Clarks Summit Clarks Summit, PA CSAC
Delaware Valley Doylestown, PA MACF
DeSales Center Valley, PA MACF
Dickinson Carlisle, PA CC
Drew Madison, NJ LAND
Eastern St. Davids, PA MACF
Elizabethtown Elizabethtown, PA LAND
FDU-Florham Madison, NJ MACF
Franklin and Marshall Lancaster, PA CC
Gallaudet Washington, DC NEAC
Gettysburg Gettysburg, PA CC
Goucher Towson, MD LAND
Gwynedd-Mercy Gwynedd Valley, PA CSAC
Haverford Haverford, PA CC
Hood Frederick, MD MACC
Immaculata Immaculata, PA CSAC
Johns Hopkins Baltimore, MD CC
Juniata Huntingdon, PA LAND
Keuka Keuka Park, NY NEAC
Keystone La Plume, PA CSAC
King's Wilkes-Barre, PA MACF
Lancaster Bible Lancaster, PA NEAC
Lebanon Valley Annville, PA MACC
Lycoming Williamsport, PA MACC
Manhattanville Purchase, NY MACF
Marywood Scranton, PA CSAC
McDaniel Westminster, MD CC
Messiah Grantham, PA MACC
Misericordia Dallas, PA MACF
Moravian Bethlehem, PA LAND
Morrisville State Morrisville, NY NEAC
Muhlenberg Allentown, PA CC
Neumann Aston, PA CSAC
Notre Dame (Md.) Baltimore, MD CSAC
Penn College Williamsport, PA NEAC
Penn State-Abington Abington, PA NEAC
Penn State-Berks Reading, PA NEAC
Rosemont Rosemont, PA CSAC
Scranton Scranton, PA LAND
St. Elizabeth Morristown, NJ NEAC
Stevenson Stevenson, MD MACC
SUNY Poly Utica, NY NEAC
SUNY-Cobleskill Cobleskill, NY NEAC
Susquehanna Selinsgrove, PA LAND
Swarthmore Swarthmore, PA CC
Ursinus Collegeville, PA CC
Valley Forge Phoenixville, PA ACAA
Washington College Chestertown, MD CC
Wells Aurora, NY NEAC
Widener Chester, PA MACC
Wilkes Wilkes-Barre, PA MACF
Wilson Chambersburg, PA NEAC

None of these schools will turn away a player that can ball since they are at the school already and most NOT ALL don't have strong teams

Anonymous said...

You are talking out of pyour A.. if you think you can just walk on at better D3 programs, schools like TCNJ, Scranton, Messiah, Williams, not only offer top notch education but also attract many top players from the area. You'll find the current incoming classes are full of players from high level clubs from GDA, ECNL, National League and NPL. So your kid gets 15k to play D1, actually D3 offers far more money for your education, only difference is they needs some brains to go with soccer skills. Get a clue, you are a ignorant person.

Anonymous said...

941 as are you to suggest that D1 athletes do not have brains or only get 15k. There are options for all sorts of players which is a good thing. no need to get into a pi$$ing contest over who is more worthy.

Anonymous said...

9:41 are you happy with your daughter's choice? im assuming she is planning to play at one of the schools you are defending? if you are happy and she is happy why do you care what someone says. walk-ons happen at DI and DII levels too.

someone was looking for info about potentially open spaces for 2018's - not sure this is accurate, but here's a start:

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/college-recruiting-needs-list:-di_aid36366

reach out to those coaches and find out. if she's a senior, she has more flexibility with communication no needing to go through the club coaches anymore. good luck.

Anonymous said...

9:49 true that.

Anonymous said...

Ignorant? So you are saying only dummies go to D1 schools? How about very smart young ladies that get paid to play soccer for 4 years don't takeaway from those that can accomplish this.

Lets stick to PA - UPenn, Drexel, Villanova, Temple, LaSalle, St Joes, St Francis, Bucknell Lafayette, Lehigh, Penn State, Pittsburgh and Duquesne are D1 schools - I think a quality education is not a problem at these schools and as 9:51 said walk-ons can happen here also it's just a little harder than at Albright, Bryn Mawr, Dickinson, Haverford, Juniata, Scranton, Swarthmore, Ursinus. My comment was a general comment not a put down it's just reality.

PS. Thanks for the link.

Anonymous said...

By there sophomore year half of your daughters won't be playing soccer anymore,so pick the school not the soccer program. And in some cases that will be a D3 school.

Anonymous said...

2:11 Why did you guys spin my post into a negative on D3 schools?

All I said was that if your kid is a player in other words an above average soccer player she can walk onto a D3 team and beat out girl #26 on most teams or they will just make her #27 since they lose nothing by adding her to the roster.

I asked about D1 and D2 schools because they give athletic rides and sometimes verbals skip on them and some don't accept their offers, I was curious about the scramble and how late these schools can get players since most have accepted their offers already.

I was being real, D1/D2 schools offer money 50% of $70k over 4 years is $140k these schools recruit who they want at D3 the kid goes to the school that they want, what can a D3 school offer? Acceptance into a specific academic program? I would imagine need based awards are the same the stronger the school brand the more money they have to give out regardless of the division D1, D2 or D3 same goes to merit not much difference.

Educate me guys am I missing something am I misinformed?

Anonymous said...

Actually a good discussion

Player commits as sophs - even juniors come with no $$ guarantee. You are committing without knowing the scholarship that you are actually receiving

Thus if you get to the point of the process where the cards are on the table - you have been accepted and it is right before official signing day - and the numbers suck - you walk - and this can open up a late slot at a top D1 school.

Look at the Top Drawer signings (commits) each week at the D1 level. This is coming up on Feb senior year for the '18s,

Anonymous said...

To the question - "What do D3s offer?

It depends on the school

I am being told by one of the websites that calculates such things that my cost at one D3 will be 45K per out of pocket based on my earnings. And at a similar school just 28K (each has a tag of 72K)

All depends on the endowments and such at each school.

Of course those numbers are just an average - but isnt getting 44/72K knocked off your cost quite equivalent/maybe favorable to getting a soccer scholatship at a D1?

Anonymous said...

Great discussion. If using the price tag as the #1 factor then you are correct. You can probably go to D1 D2 and D3 for the same price.
Is playing soccer #2 or is education #2? Depends...
Real story bc it's my daughter's...10th and 11th grade she was recruited by a D1 with ranking of #92 so not top but out of 350, not bad.
Here we are now in her senior year and she's choosing between 2 D3 schools with similar cost both in top 10 D3 soccer rankings.
Our price tag, without having final FAFSA accounted for, will be similar to going to the D1 with 50% athletic money.
She is top 5 in her class, 4.0 etc...so the merit money is big.
She will not be joining the NWSL so this will be the best choice for her...great education, great future and she has a guaranteed starting spot at either school...
All choices.

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