There is an incredible depth of talent in this age group and the competition is tougher than ever.
Playing for fun, playing with an eye on college, or just getting away from parents for a few hours every week, this age group is a blast to watch on the field.
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Any tips for surviving HS season here? How much to expect if you kid makes varsity?
Every school is different. But this is the best way to survive:
1) Be friendly with the seniors. It is better for them to look at you as a friend than their competition.
2) Know your place. Act like a frosh and not like you are more skilled or knowledgeable than everyone else (even if you are).
3) Be flexible. Don't tell the coach you only play one position. You would rather have time as an outside mid than sit as a forward.
What to expect:
Playing time - Some only play upperclassman because of loyalty or size. In some schools, frosh aren't given a chance to see varsity because they have to field 3 teams and don't want to be short players. Some really do play the best 11 but that is not the norm. You can look forward to getting in the last 5 min of that 10-0 game as a striker and being told that you aren't allowed to score. That's fun...
Referees - Have a 2 whistle system that is terrible. Most refs are retired and overweight. They don't understand the hand ball rule or off sides rule. Better refs at the recreational level!
Coaching - The level of Coaching horrific at best. They don't need to be certified or know anything about the game. Mostly a new history teacher who was told to coach by the VP. Injuries are a direct cause of these untrained idiots. Worst is the English teacher who has had the team for 30 years and hasn't changed with the times. You will also love the fall banquet when the coach takes credit for everything and not even acknowledge what her academy did for the past 7 years.
Level of play - Don't expect much. I hope you like kick and run. very physical and chippy. Direct soccer at its worst. No college scouts at these games.
See you there!!!
I coach both HS and club. In club I don't care if you were born in January or December, all team members have the same opportunity to earn their time. Same thing in HS, freshman or senior, if you can play you play. My best XI play the majority of the important minutes.
Would a coach allow a player to develop in JV or keep the kid on the bench for the season? How is the difference in JV vs Varsity?
@11:17 - Big difference in JV and V. If the player is practicing with V but not playing much, have them ask for some minutes with JV while remaining with V for practice.
Not a good idea to ask for JV minutes if JV and V games are at the same time. You might miss their big chance when a V player is hurt and the coach turns to the bench and you aren't there. Slower speed of play and poor skill at most JV is not worth the lost V opportunity. You also have a better chance of being injured by the less skilled players. Unless you can get the coaches attention by scoring 10 goals in the half at JV, I would don't risk it.
In MY OPINION it shows you care more about yourself than the team by asking for JV time.
8:53
If you have a freshman and senior who are equal in every measure, who do you play?
The freshman to develop your program or the senior who has been loyal to the program for the past 4 years? Equal time is NOT an acceptable answer either.
What is more important, loyalty or development?
@12:20 - if equal in all respects and they are the 10th and 11th player, start the senior, but find a way to get the freshman into the mix somehow. Players rarely play 100% of the minutes for an entire season so there will be opportunities to get them in.
Some schools seem to have 3 HS teams - but we only have 2, and typically 1-3 freshmen get pulled up to varsity.
In the past - similar to what others mentioned - more play time in 'non-league' games or when the score is settled is given to non-seniors. Otherwise play time is limited - but practices are more intense
Please, are we using the loyalty excuse. If your a freshman and are that good you will play V. Stop making excuses lol NJ.com has the rosters and I guess your Mia's aren't there. Gotta laugh keep plugging money in 3 letter academies! Keep down playing HS ball and the accomplishments of a 4 year letter winner and stats for all 4 years. Look at any college roster you will see HS accomplishments in the bios along with academy play.
It is not an excuse it is fact. Our HS coach will play seniors over freshman because they put time into the program. "The freshman have to prove themselves first" he said.
If your school is different than good for you. I am only speaking from my experience and what I heard from the HS coach with my own two ears!!!
My daughter chose to forgo the DA so she could enjoy being a starting varsity player as a freshman and she couldn't be happier with her decision .
You made the right choice if she is not playing in college.
If she plans to play in college and you gave up an offer to play DA, you are a fool!
I would kill to have a DA close enough to us to make work!
Was any DA player at this age group given a waiver for the fall to play HS?
I have heard that PDA will allow it. Anyone know what the non DA 8th grade "Trapped" players are doing this fall?
thousands of girls playing in this age group and we are focusing on 50 NJ girls that play DA. *snoozer*
YOU PLAY THE SENIOR
If the freshman is a "cant keep her off the field" player, you will know.
Somehow I think some of your daughter aren't. I have seen many many VERY TALENTED freshmen get bench roles. And contribute key minutes, with nobody screaming how the team would be better off - NOW OR DOWN THE LINE - with the upperclassman on the pine.
C'mon folks - have a clue.
Now............theres THIS:
Some coaches dont like to sub, even when the score is 4/5-0 and the game minutes remaining are under 20......
Sickens me to the core - absolutely.
If you have a coach oik that, best to ask that your freshman whiz kid not play varsity
No shame there
Unfortunately I asked the HS coach the same for my older daughter when she was a freshman getting 5-10 minutes a game. It was not a good experience - he asked my daughter to turn in the uniform as she is giving up on the team. Now I'm dreading the same treatment again.
From a parent who also has a daughter who is a senior. Don't ever talk to a HS coach about your kids. I made the mistake with my son and regret it to this day (he graduated from college last year). My son's scenario is that he played high level travel and was ODP. He was put on the freshman team (non-public school). I was somewhat ok with that until after the first two weeks of games and he saw about 10 minutes a game. He had at least one goal and a few assists. I had him ask the coach what he needed to do to get more playing time and the coach was dismissive in that he said he needed to step up in practice. Didn't offer any specific guidance. I reached out to the coach after the next set of games with similar playing time, coach said he had a large roster and needed to get the boys ready for the upper teams. My son stayed with it and was moved to JV Soph year and maybe played in 5 games the entire season. Meanwhile his travel team won cups with him as a full game midfielder. HS coaches are influenced more by the "right" people and egos. My oldest daughter without any intervention was a varsity player as a freshman and has been a starter since sophomore year gaining All League honors.
Sounds like your son didn't work hard enough at practice. The coach benched him to send a message and then told you that effort at practice was the reason. If you son didn't respond and step up, that is on him.
Do you still wear rose colored glasses?
What parent of kids this age talks to the coach about anything related to the player? I guarantee you, you got your kid burried.
9:52 AM
School team was BETTER than his club team, face it.
He started and won his "CUPS" because the club team was not as deep. Ever think of that? Sometimes as parents we dont realize just how many talented players there are in the area (in your case withon your son's school class).
I think the opposite - going 4 years and saying nothing, is also inadvisable for a parent. There is a proper way to communicate with a coach. So I dont think you made a mistake.
Not sure what utopia you live in but around here HS soccer teams may have 2 or 3 elite players on them. The rest have no skills or soccer IQ whatsoever.
What is elite? Is that ECNL?
@9:17 to me elite is a skilled player that has the potential to be make it to a D1 soccer program. However, I guess it is all about perspective. Compared to Mal Pugh or Tobin Heath those players wouldn't be elite. ECNL is slightly over-rated. There are plenty of talented players in DA, ECNL, USYS NL, etc. Not everyone has an ECNL or DA club in their backyard so does that mean there are no elite players in those areas as well?
Any 2003 8th graders? We are playing fall league - but the team is really a mix of 2 teams that just fall in this age bracket- very inconsistent IMHO. Not sure what to expect when the fall is over.
Our club is playing a fall season with an 8th grade team which really equates to about a month and a half. Once the HS season is done, the players go back to train with their respective teams and get ready for tournament season.
It is so fun to run from a middle school game/practice and go directly to club practice. You get to eat dinner at 9pm and stay up till midnight doing homework.
Yeah, shame on whoever is holding a gun to your head forcing you to have her do both.
One clear benefit of HS soccer - no need to travel to some distant tournament for the Labor Day! Whew!
What happened to this 03 blog? Where is everyone. Snooze.
Sorry - busy playing HS. No time for Soccer Talk
DA competition seems to be a bust for Atlantic conference. No one is developing when you have blow-out scores like 8-0.
If you want to be seen by the scouts - supposedly Atlantic division is the place to be.
Hay 5:06, is the English Premier League a bust too? Manchester City outscored their last three opponents 15-0. And one was #8 ranked Liverpool.
I guess the NFL is a bust too because of the score at the Cowboys game yesterday (42-17). And don't let me get started on the MLB with the White Sox giving up 12 runs to the Tigers yesterday. Our national past time is NOT developing players. Canada is in trouble too because the Canucks lost by 5 goals yesterday too. The sky is falling...
Yes, I do like ESPN.
I agree, the da is a bust and who doesn't like espn...
I don't like ESPN.
I wasn't prepared for how horrible high school soccer actually is. It's like watching a rec game from a local town team. I am sure like everything else its all about what town you live in. Smaller towns get a much smaller pool of girls to choose from as the regional high schools have a much larger pool to get their players from. There is no training involved unless you consider running, running and more running a good training tool. And then lets not forget its about who you know and not how skilled you are. I am seeing girls being placed on the varsity team that have soccer iq of 0. the HS coaches want you to believe that this is the way for your child to go if they want to go to college. No its more like they want to be in the photo when your kid signs with a college and say look what I did. Meanwhile the club that the child belong to has their own photo and listing of the same child. These coaches want you to believe your child got to college by playing hs soccer. Wake up the club deserves all the credit. Sorry but high school soccer is a joke. Its a big social event for the kids.
Your last sentence is important and I think most understand that.
HS soccer in the DC metro area is mostly club team players, rec players are normally cut or sent to the freshman team. My daughter's JV team would most likely beat her U15 club team. SJC HS has two national team players who play varsity when possible. So far I've seen pretty good HS soccer down here.
NJ HS soccer really depends on the school size and reputation. There are a lot of small schools as well as lots of schools outside of the "club areas"
http://www.njsiaa.org/sites/default/files/document/G%20Soccer%20classifications%20%2717-%2718_0.pdf
Group 4 schools typically have better talent pools and programs and coach stipends than lower groups - where coaches end up being history or math teachers. When a school is also in a well-off neighborhood - they tend to have a higher concentration of high quality club players as well.
So maybe 10-15% of HS soccer can probably be qualified as good soccer.
Nothing like driving 3+hours to be beaten 9-0 and then play keep away for the final 15 minutes of a game. Development indeed...
11:21 How far is it ok to drive to lose by more than 5?
CSA didn't show to well this weekend.
Cedar Stars girls DA teams lost 4 games to PDA by a combined score of 18-1. The PDA Shore girls won 2 games with Cedar Stars by 8-1 margin. The PDA boys DA won four games by a staggering 38-5 differential.
CSA talent for boys seems to be in Bergen County.
Keep posting pictures of the id² Training Camp of the players you nominated. Have you figured it out yet that the best are playing DA. Ha US Club Soccer. Clueless
id² Training Camp is extremely selective - maybe 150 top US players outside of GDA each year. Lots of talent outside of GDA - especially in NY/NJ area. Congrats to whomever made it this year.
And the Harlem Globetrotters show continues in Fairfield. Buyer beware.
ID2 and DA are a joke. The real talent is in ODP!
as per NJYS "National League play is reserved for the nation's top teams in the 14U through 18U age groups (boys and girls), and it offers the highest level of competition in the country."
The 10 NJ Youth Soccer teams selected for National League competition come from Real Jersey Football Club, Soccer Domain Football Club (Yellow 2003 Girls and 2004 Girls), South Jersey Elite Soccer Academy Rush, New Jersey Stallions (Freedom and Stampede), New Jersey Rush, Players Development Academy (Freedom and Wave) and the Princeton Soccer Association
LVPSA still looks strong to win the National League at U15. Should be a good mix of games for NJ teams (PDA Freedom and SDFC) as the teams in the league are ranked <36 and above 33. So all games should be very good and competitive..
On a sidenote, it seems that 5 of the teams nominated to the U15 national league for 2017-2018 have also joined GDA - but they should be able to send in strong teams - but I have really no clue how it works
CSA gets a NTC site! What’s next Tab Ramos for National Team Coach?
Who said money can’t buy happiness?
To all my Average Gamers a message to you all before your games this weekend. Remember it’s all about you. Play selfish. Don’t pass. See how many teammates and parents on your own team you can anger. Don’t forget to keep dribbling with your head down. It doesn’t matter if you win or lose it’s how many step overs and nutmegs you can do in the game. Make sure you are the player that no when else wants to play with. #smokeandmirrors
Don’t forget to hog the ball whenever US Soccer scouts are present. Scissors and step overs repeated every time you get ball will impress the hell out of everyone. Throw in a maradonna every once in a while too. You must watch a lot of Premier League. Even your constant dives are a thing to watch.
Whoever is responsible for the last 2 posts, you are a complete loser. I feel bad for everyone on your life, you are an utter embarrassment.
3.53 I agree. I can't believe that some of these daddy's just can't move on. Must be Yankees fans... Move on and stop bullying 15 Year old girls.
To the idiot who keeps bashing the a game girls. Put your name up and act like a real human. If you want to keep rambling all yourbullshit stop hiding your identity. If you have something to say put your name up. Otherwise you are just an idiot who’s daughter couldn’t make to an elite level. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
A game? Thought we were talking about PDA.
Could be 2 different ppl. Second post was after PDA tied FC Stars I guess. FC Stars got 2 cautions in the game and game was tied 1:1 - hopefully someone will share a video. Not defending negative comments, just saying it may be 2 references.
This person of extremely low character is still attacking people for something thatt happened a year ago. Doubt it's a parent. Team failed and players are spread among 4-5 teams. I would guess most are happy. ame person attacks kids who did not leave together. Telling, I know who you are.
Reunited and it feels so good. Ha. Ugh. Pay to play
Play to slay! Styling and smiling! Pass like a butterfly, tackle like a bee!
Nothing like reminiscing about the good all days and talking about all the losing seasons we had. #paytoplay
Is it true that PDA DA and NYCFC DA do not want their players training outside their club? Same with ECNL clubs? #betternotgetintrouble #nostepoversornutmegs
National League is almost here. Who's coming out of the weekend on top?
Which group?
Any picks for CASL?
@5:05 2003, this is a 2003 discussion page :)
7:02 Sorry.. Let's try again.
So-and-so sucks.
Any predictions for the CASL? Bunch of Region 1 teams playing. Can South Shore win it this year? How about SUSA playing in the top bracket - congrats!
Lets hope SDFC can pick up form before heading out to National League. Not a great outing for them.
Is it true that Jill Ellis is leaving the USWNT to go to Average -Game?
Who does SDFC play in National League?
Sdfc girls probably had a very important party to attend the day before. That’s the norm for that group. That’s why all their better players left to play real soccer
@11:15 The roster from Regionals looks pretty similar to the current roster. So sorry they beat you somewhere along the way.
lol @11.15 similar and the same are two different things. Keep telling yourself that. Must be a lifer or getting some free tuition to keep you kid on the team. and it would be pretty hard for them to beat a team that is out of their league because they don't play small ball with these little teams that's why you had to go to Nationals.
At least they showed up to play. Unlike other GDA teams from Region 1 that just didn’t belong in their competition
Funny thing is that the team you are referring to would still beat your team. Now that is sad.
That is my team. Most of the Region 1 is getting thoroughly outplayed out here in front of 50+ coaches per game. Could have been champs in other leagues.
That’s why you should just play at Pda or pf.
Cedar Stars 2003 DA girls lost 14-1 the other day. Is that some kind of joke?
PDA 03 is doing well in showcase. Bumped up to #3 in playoff rankings.
PDA just lost
Looks like they are coming out 1-1-1 for the showcase. Not a bad record with 1 loss for the season.
Depends how they got the 1-1-1. Someone who was at the last game said it wasn't good style. Long ball, not much possession. I'm not sure how verifiable it is.
Depends on how they got 1-1-1? Teams change their style depending on the strengths and weaknesses of their opponent. Then again you wouldn’t know because you were probably shoveling snow yesterday.
Looks like they lost 1 0 to the number one team in so cal. It only took you an hour after the game to post. Get a life man.and what team does your superstar play on?
1:15 - Legends FC. Yea.
The old saying, if you can’t join them - follow them. Very 😢
nicely down YSR. knocked all the DA teams to the ground! Congrats South Shore #1 in Region 1!
okay. hahaha keep hitting your alarm clock; you're dreaming. Keep collecting those Got Soccer Points. You'll rule the world soon. hahaha
In Region 1 YSR has the following in top 10:
2 GDA teams
2 NPL teams
6 ECNL Teams
All withing 1.2 points of each other. CSA GDA is 104th in Region 1 and 529th in the US. Washington Spirit Virginia GDA is 320th in Region 1 and 1521st in US (on par with LISC GDA). Safe to assume that GDA is not where competition is at.
My assumption is that ECNL teams will drop once they start playing.
Happy New Year! Let's welcome a new year of parents talking trash about something they know nothing about! The only thing they know is that their daughter is the next Mia Hamm!
Says the ringleader ^ of nonsense
Thinking about having my daughter train at Universal Soccer Academy in the Medford NJ area, What does anyone know about this place and the coach Galanis?
Coach Galanis was Carly Lloyds coach growing up. My daughter had him at the US training center. She liked him.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-uswnt-soccer-baxter-20180120-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
GALANIS is mentioned in this article.
Galanis also blew up the US Training Center as well. Hear he is doing wonders now at ODP. He runs the academy but he is not the main trainer, neither is Carli. But, she may be more local now since she just moved teams and is now Sky Blue. If your daughter's team trainer is not giving quality instruction don't stay on the team and pay for extra training somewhere else, MOVE TEAMS. If the training is not top notch on her team then she is wasting her time. U15 is showcasing time and time is running out at this point.
Last couple of posts look like an infomercial for the coach.
Galanis got lucky with one player...Carli Lloyd. Good for him. Every coach dreams of working with that one player. Go watch his Medford teams, they are weak. People in the area know it, and they steer clear.
Can anyone invited to NTC confirm if he has been a coach in the last few sessions? I thought the staff was published on USSoccer site and I have t seen his name
Galanis hasn't been with the NTC the past few months.
Galanis runs a strong training program. We left one of the bigger clubs in south jersey and went to the strikers. The training far exceeds the training I have seen at other clubs. He doesn't draw a big showing because parents want the big club affilition. Should have more concern on what environment is best for your players growth and less about wins. Imho.
Good players elevate training and competiveness of the team, right?
What's your definition of good?
Jeff Cup brackets released. So now that PDA has the DA I guess their NPL team is a true third string team. Ranked pretty low for the Jeff Cup. And with the DA combining next year with the 2002 DA team there is going to be a lot a movement again. When the current bench warmers on DA don't make the team again they are going to jump back down to ecnl and the NPL teams will be displaced again when 1/2 of those players get knocked out of the club completely.
Spit it out. What point are you trying to bring up?
@7:31 Your logic is flawed. The current ecnl players would more likely switch clubs if they were cut down to the npl team.
If you look at Jeff cup for 2003 there are more NPL teams than ECNL teams in top brackets. So being on PDA NPL May not be glamorous, but being on non PDA NPL team is not bad.
No doubt South Shore will beat PDA ECNL in the final.
Stop. Yes South Shore is the best team in Jeff Cup but PDA is certainly not the next best team and will not make the final. Please
How can you be so certain 9:30?
YSR Team
34.53 ALLEYCATS 2003G NPL (NYE)
34.85 CLEVELAND FC 03 (ON)
36.30 PDA 2003 ECNL (NJ) (CREW - 33.24)
35.79 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U15 (VA)
Hard to tell what the ECNL teams are really ranked as - they didnt play enough games - and some of the games they played were against other ECNL teams.
So if ECNL is still tops to all other teams other than DA, why are there ECNL teams playing at Jeff Cup in the second flight (elite), third flight, 4th flight?
If ECNL is still all that, which colleges are visiting teams showing up in second, third and fourth flights? What advantage is there, and where do those college coaches show up? I thought that was the whole point of playing ECNL
I get the whole YSR ranking team, and point is valid in that most have not played enough games this fall...
Its pretty obvious that Jeff Cup just went with Gotsoccer points. There will be some lopsided scores throughout the brackets. I also doubt there will be very many coaches there.
Play ECNL for all of the other showcases other than Jeff Cup, where ECNL teams are ranked more appropriately like CASL, Bethesda, ECNL Florida, ECNL PDA.
Also play ECNL for some very competitive league games.
Its pretty obvious they went with YSR more than with gotsoccer points. Starting at U15 ECNL YSR coefficients are simply not significantly better than NPL/EDP teams. Hence their placement in lower JeffCup brackets for parity.
Just looking at 3rd bracket as a sample:
YSR-gotsoccer (state position) club
33.79 - 18095 (1) arlington
34.50 - 12337 (11) marin fc
33.28 - 5318 (3) sunrise
33.97 - 8029 (6) world class (falling rank)
35.01 - 1781 (18) bethesda (falling rank)
33.78 - 5295 (8) fc rowdies
34.54 - 17687 (2) herndon
34.59 - 12222 (1) united mount pleasant
South shore will play BRYC in the final. Looks like BRYC scored the most goals in the country in ECNL at 03 and have completed their schedule 14-2-1 ... 6th nationally in ECNL.
Last year the final was South Shore v BRYC
Divisional results are often deceiving at the national stage. Just look at the GDA results from the north east as compared to the showcase results. Teams with great standing and national players didn't fare as well as expected.
But I still like BRYC on GD so, I have BRYC vs SUSA in the final
It's very interesting that south shore and bryc are the two teams most people hold in high regard.... also they are the 2 teams that got to the final last year. They both are not physically big and powerful but technically excellent, both pass the ball around!!! All of the u12 super teams that relied on long balls are dropping off the map. I am glad they are getting the reward for developing players the right way.
2-22/10:39 don't go by results in fl only. my friend's team that is very good and has ynt players played kids like it was a showcase to get kids looks from college coaches. kids that weren't getting a playing time in league games and also playing some in different positions. this is why we stayed put. some have no clue what they are doing. let all the first and second year quirks work themselves out. kids are giving up a lot to be part of an experiment.
it was a ussf showcase and they do care about the result and only playing the best.
Why is this blog so quiet? Any word on pda south going to ecnl in mid Atlantic conference?
When EM is the top ECNL team this season after pretty much being a bottom team - you know that nothing makes sense.
Its not happy times at SJEB/Rush..... Club has been turned upside down since news broke Friday night about being awarded DA status.
How is that news official?
maybe the sjeb players/parents were hoping for the ecnl instead of the DA. With PDA south getting the ecnl slot, maybe sjeb should be happy DA
Why do people keep saying that PDA South have an ECNL spot? Both PDA ECNL teams will be run out of the North. Absolutely nothing on the PDA website indicates South will have a team, all ECNL tryouts listed 2 coaches at the North locations meaning they'll have a team each.
Wait until next week. PDA needs to protect their turf. It’s a slow chess game to death.
Because they said it at the parent meeting. They are looking to move pda south to ecnl but in the mid Atlantic conference since they all ready have two ecnl teams out of north. That’s why.
Nicely done PDA. After blocking all new ECNL memberships in NJ for 5+ years they just opened it up to 2 PDA teams!!! When N in ECNL stands for Nepotism. That’s the life lesson kids will never forget.
So wait.. let me get this straight. This blogs knocks down ECNL and praises NPL but gets upset that ECNL doesn't accept other teams in NJ? Make up your minds already!
9:09 you are right - they have had the power to control the northeast ecnl league for the past 5 years - however if it is true and pda south goes ecnl - it just further waters down the competition in ecnl - and will give us youth soccer and the da an upper hand - pda is used to having some much control and now they only have control in ecnl and they are going 'watering' down the competition in ecnl - no way a club even pda - can field 3 highly competitive teams in the same age group across all ages - can't be done and they are fools trying to do so - 5 years from now - pda's reputation will be a lot different than it has been - can't believe they continue to make such poor business decisions and can't see past their own noses and what they should be doing for the future not today - all in the name of power - that evil evil word - this is all about power - most of their ecnl teams struggled this year compared to previous - and with their old teams returning to ecnl - those old npl teams that played ecnl this year will struggle even more next year and now you add another npl team - anyone who argues this is strengthening ecnl has drank the pda cool aid - they are running the ecnl league
9:36 no one mentioned NPL. Just disappointed with nepotism and corruption from PDA.
I’m hoping some journalists would get some balls and expose all of this. This is where I shake my head in disbelief and start trusting GDA to fix this issue.
Pda south would be in the mid atlantic conference NOT NE so it wouldn't water down the existing teams. Everyone is hating on PDA but it seems to me that they are just doing their thing just like MFA, CSA and the rest. You just need to find what is going to work for your player.
How can they be in mid Atlantic? Doesn't mid Atlantic play high school soccer in the spring? That does not work.
thats very interesting. I did not know that. However, it was what was said in the parent meeting so now I have no idea how they would make that work. Unless they stay in the NE conference. Which wouldn't be that big a deal because they currently have two teams in NPL but three in ecnl seems crazy.
03 SJEB girls lost to PDA Nova in the Semis 3-0 this past weekend, SJEB took ZERO shots on goal, PDA had over 50. SJEB only sniffed the 18 a few times.
SJEB vs PDA South Nova... I watched that game. Score should have been closer to 8-0. Understand the SJEB keeper missed almost all of the season due to injury, just returned and only played in 3 or 4 games, 2 of which in the PDA tournament MDW.
Total shocker considering Nova was a 2.5 goal favorite according to YSR.
Well if there were truly 50 PDA South Nova shots on SJEB goal, and the keeper only conceded 3, that's a 94% save rate. Kudos to that SJEB keeper. To let that many shots off is a defensive issue, not a keeper issue
@ 6:18 I (12:12) spoke with the keeper's father during the game, he was taking pictures of her, easy to pick him out. SJEB is replacing their 03 girls coach for some reason. New coach would not even give this girl a tryout or even a look for next years team. She was still in a walking boot during the tryout times and could not attend any team's tryouts at all. Seems she is going to MLU who play in eastern regional league. She played as a guest for them at some point. Options were slim for her. Honestly, seems like a really bad waste of talent.
SJEB/Rush has some incredible keepers. They send all their keepers to weekly keeper training and the club covers the costs. The 03' keepers are strong, the 02' keepers are both lights out, and one of them is an 04.
Looks like they are letting their top 03 keeper walk without even giving her a chance due to an injury during tryouts. Sad! Seems that is the least of their worries if they can even show up at the state semis and this team is moving to DA next year. Maybe the keepers parents should be grateful they don't have to pay the $4000+ to them anymore.
Keepers in the 03 age group are strong across the board - CSA,PDA, etc.
Not a GK parent, so I would like to find out if it’s better to be on a team that allows 2 shots on goal each game vs a team that allows 15
PDA South Nova 2003
NE Girls NPL U15 Champions
heading to NPL Finals
Another great team that plays in a league that does not provide any challenge to them. Ugh. Why?
@5:53: To continue to develop experience as a keeper (and as a keeper parent, this is what's been recommended):
1. Be on a team where you can be in net for full game. Sitting half a game on bench does not increase your game experience
2. Play on a team where you do get shots on goal and plays back to keeper. Hopefully not a team that gets routinely crushed as that is not helpful mentally as a keeper.
3. Play for a team/club that provides in-house GK training as a supplement to team training.
4. Play for a team that does a proper keeper warm up before each game. Simply leaving it up to the team to strike balls at a keeper is not a proper warmup to get mentally prepared for a game.
@1:53..... Great start to this. Allow me to move further into it.
1. The top teams always carry two keepers for multiple reasons. The obvious is injuries, keepers get beat up, its a fact. If a keeper has not taken a hit yet then she or he is not a real keeper. Injuries are par for the course as a keeper, concussions, bruises, and cuts to name a few. Cleats, and knees can cause damage.
2. Play back is a given, any team that does not has no faith in their keeper.
3. In house training is a starter, but the elite players go to "keeper training" beyond practice. Keepers practice a minimum of 4 days a week. They work on balance, hand-eye, mirror technique, etc. Being a keeper is not just catching a ball. Their is the mental game as well, class and study time and film review.
4. Proper warm up is usually done with the teams two keepers. Step and run drills, dive drills, to name a few, then going into "off the 18 shots." Keepers are those players who arrive first to the game. They prep well before squad arrives.
5. Keepers are crazy. You have to be a little wild to play that position. Safe and healthy summer to all.
3:11 - niece is a GK. She is older and committed as a sophomore. She is with a club that has very good goalkeeping training. she doesn't get outside training. if your club has top notch training, you don't need it. nothing beats game experience. you don't get better on the bench.
at this level it's about the kids getting looks from colleges so most teams that carry two keepers will play both keepers/split halves or split games if two games a weekend,
keepers are a rare breed. they have the largest amount of real estate to defend alone (cubic feet). everyone else gets help and if the ball goes over your head as a field player; you think someone behind me will get it. at least that is how I played up top when I played the field before becoming a GK.
GK has to make a split second decision how to play and calculate how high is the ball and how it was hit. that's why you will see some hit a ball away instead of trying to catch. the spin/trajectory of the strike determines that as well.
It's not just being crazy, but being able to carry the load when it doesn't work out. You play against a loaded team and your team isn't, the field players fall down (figuratively speaking). it's the keeper that gets crushed. the field players don't take it personally. a gk does.
@10:02AM - to your point about sitting on the bench and not getting better, that's why it's always better to play on the team with only one keeper, so you are not sitting on the bench and getting twice as much experience in the net than when there are two. College coaches will come see GK's, but some won't specifically, because it is a crapshoot as to whether they see a GK in action. For the time they spend, you may seem some distribution, communication, some kicks, (high or close to their net), but may or may not see a variety of saves. My daughter is in that process of showcases as well and if they like what they see on video, they will come see. But most also want you to go to an ID camp where they are so they can see more. So that is also why it's good to play on a team where hopefully you don't get crushed all the time (to 10:24's point, because it sucks), but get enough touches on ball that if you're being watched, there is something to be seen. Lastly, for individual training, keepers all have strengths and weaknesses. Just like field players, most will do some type of small group or individualized training throughout the year. Work on weaknesses, improve on a particular skill. There are very few soccer players in general, including keepers, that don't occasionally go to some type of training outside of their club at least on occasion.
@ 3:11
1. The top teams always carry two keepers for multiple reasons.
Maybe but the 2nd keeper should understand that that is what she is, a back up, no different then the bench player who see 2 or 3 minutes a game total on the field. The #1 is the #1 for a reason, for the team to win.
2. Play back is a given, any team that does not has no faith in their keeper.
Or they don't really understand the game very well
3. In house training is a starter, but the elite players go to "keeper training" beyond practice. Keepers practice a minimum of 4 days a week. They work on balance, hand-eye, mirror technique, etc. Being a keeper is not just catching a ball. Their is the mental game as well, class and study time and film review.
We can not even get anyone to keep stats, your talking about film review and kids have a life outside of soccer also. a good keeper might get some money for college, but if their grades suck they are done. 4 days a week min. ha that's funny, burn out to follow
4. Proper warm up is usually done with the teams two keepers. Step and run drills, dive drills, to name a few, then going into "off the 18 shots." Keepers are those players who arrive first to the game. They prep well before squad arrives.
Agree with it all accept the last 2 sentences
5. Keepers are crazy. You have to be a little wild to play that position.
agree
6/25 @ 9:50 - very rarely are you going to find a team with only 1 keeper. life happens and kids need to be able to attend big life events outside of soccer.
college coaches know the deal; it's not their first time picking GK's. it will all work out. plenty of teams out there looking for very good keepers.
The import aspects of all kids that play any sports is simple... They need your love, encouragement and support. That's not berating them when they are having a bad day or make a bad play. That's not being pushy and demanding.
These are little kids still, most won't even play beyond HS. It needs to be THEIR desire and dream, NOT YOURS.
Before my daughter leaves for her team I always emphasis 3 things..
Have Fun, Play hard and that I love being here watching you play!!
Congrats SUSA 03 - NPL Champs!
Interesting final against Delaware FC? Delaware beat South Shore Select? Doesn't South Shore have two Natl team players or did they leave?
Every game is different.
So no one will check that national U15 camp started on the 15th and SSS was w/o their players for 1/2 the finals?
SSS should just join GDA and save us the pain. They already train on the same schedule as GDA but just play local weaklings.
Heard that Delaware FC team is pretty good. Anyone know more about them?
Regarding DEFC, I know that one of the forwards is leaving to go to another team for next season. Team she is going to is closer to her home.
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