Win the most games? Win the most tournaments? Have the most got soccer points? Get the most college money to any college? Get the most college money to a college the player would like to attend? Use soccer to help get a kid to quality academic college? Offer a quality soccer experience by breaking the bank? Offer a quality soccer experience and not break the bank? Help a kid develop their character?
With SJEB and Rush merging, the new 04' team could be lethal. A lot of strong 04's in South Jersey. The SJEB team is already good, adding more firepower will only improve an impressive squad. I have a feeling some past teammates may be reuniting. Should be interesting to hear who makes the new squad. They will have a big pool to pull from.
I will take average any day of the week. Usually people say a team is horrible on this board. Regardless, should be interesting to what happens. They won't get the elite 04's in the area but they will improve to say the least. Happy for them.
Rush does not have an 04 team, any 04 players play on their 03 team. With the merge Rush officially has an 04 team now.
Not sure what the other post was about but in my opinion the elites are the players in the area that are extremely good. NTC players who play on 03 and 02 teams and are play makers. In soccer age does not always define ability.
At FC Europa Cup...Philly Coppa Swarm, Hulmeville, PHWM SC Red, North Union, FC Rev, PA Rush, Valley Voodoo, FC Europa, Harrison Dynamite to name a few in top 2 brackets.
That Europa cup turned out to be a great tournament. You should have seen how Mother Nature just dominated everyone and took all those gotsoccer points with her.
Biggest waste of time ever. Every road game is like 20 hours away and it's an almost required stay over. Further, many of the teams are nothing special. Just a lot of money for nothing more than what you can get in a local division.
Actually YES. You can fight it all you want, but most and notice I said most and not all, but most of the better players will flock to the ECNL clubs. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but that's just what happens. The ones that can't perform at that level will funnel back down and there will be a new crop trying the next year. Eventually 99% of the players end up where they should be. There's really no need to get your heart rate up about it at this age. Let your daughter play where she is comfortable and if she's driven to try the next level up, give her the opportunity. It's really not rocket science, it's the parents' egos that get in the way and screw up the experience for the kid. JUST LET THEM PLAY!
Disagree. You cannot get blood from a stone. Only the strong players with the time and money to join such a league will join such a league. If you pay attention, you see which players do and do not pursue it and how that relates to $$$ available in addition to talent.
Free boys academies have more lower income talent participating due to the lower costs. Same would happen on the girl's side if the GDA had a similar set up, which it does not.
The best players at this age group already play ECNL or National League, they play up.... The best 04's will not play age appropriate. They would be going backwards in training and potential.
I do not think that is accurate. Do you get the opportunity to watch top players across other leagues and platforms? IF so, I don't think you would say that.
Did YOU watch ALL the top players from ALL the other leagues? Nobody has time to do that so just stop with the nonsense. Back to my original statement that MOST of the better players will go to the top leagues regardless of price. Are there some that can't afford it? Sure, that's why it's most and not all.
Why you're arguing this is ridiculous, it just shows you have an inherent bias against the ECNL and the DA. The reason your argument about price doesn't hold water is, there's not a club out there that wouldn't take a kid because they can't afford it. All clubs, especially the top ones, have financial assistance for those who truly can't afford it. I'm not talking about the family making $150k+ who say they can't "afford" it because they drive around two mortgage payments trying to look rich and then complain they can't afford soccer fees for their kids.
This argument will begin to settle itself as some of the funded girl's academy programs begin to operate. We will see if lower income talent can access and thrive in these programs.
Stop playing semantics, it's an argument you obviously subscribe to.
What are your numbers (facts) that backup the boys DA having a lower income demographic? Since you said it, I'm assuming you can back that up with data? In other words, you're saying all the players' families in the boys DA program are surveyed and they disclose their income? Similarly, how did you come across that info for the girls DA players - especially when the girls DA players haven't even been selected yet? It seems as though your argument, sorry the argument that has been said for years about soccer in the US, is based on something other than concrete facts.
This is going off tangent so I'll bring it back to the original discussion - how do you know that kids from lower income families won't have equal access to the DA clubs as everyone else?
There are dozens and dozens of sources chronicling how high level soccer in the US in wealthy and white because of the cost. Google is your friend. You could also just look around the next time you attend a high level youth game. Or notice which of the strong players left your local club and went to the pricey academies and how that relates to wealth and not just talent.
High cost will obviously limit the player pool but the boys have apparently made progress and I hope the same for the girls.
This is from soccer america about the boys da - and talks about how it is starting to attract more diverse players. (more does not mean many)
"......A decade later, youth soccer remains too expensive, but there has been a significant amount of progress in addressing the “diversity problem.” Some of which should have been hard to ignore for Carpenter, who last November wrote a Guardian article about the FC Dallas youth program. FC Dallas won the 2015 U.S. Soccer Development Academy U-16 national title with a team whose was roster was more than 50 percent Latino.
In fact, the U.S. Soccer Development Academy has vastly increased the opportunities for lower-income players to climb the ladder and has made elite youth soccer more diverse. While MLS clubs subsidize their academy programs so players don’t have to pay, U.S. Soccer’s financial aid program has paid out nearly $2 million in DA scholarship funds since 2008. U.S. Soccer’s nationwide network of Training Centers to identify players with youth national team potential are cost-free. Latinos comprised a third of the DA’s 66 all-conference selections for 2015-16 season and are well represented on DA clubs in areas with significant Hispanic communities.
Moreover, 13 percent of the Development Academy players are immigrants, born in more than 100 different nations, nearly 40 percent from Latin American countries."
OMG, talking with you is like talking to a 3rd grader. WHERE are your facts? Not an opinion column quote that you didn't even credit. WHERE are the facts on the girls DA and cost? WHERE is the demographic info you spoke about for the boys and girls? I'm not talking about whether someone is Latino or White or Green and from the moon, I want you to post the financial information backing up your claim. You can't so let's just end this.
The best players are not going to go to a DA. Logistically it is impossible. If your child attends a NTC, that ideally would be your GDA team. Those players come from up to 80 miles in each direction.
136 - not sure I understand. NTC is further than GDA for many. in NJ we have three options so far, cedar stars in south, PDA central and NYSC in the north, just over the border. All three are closer for many then the NTC.
Barcelona had a difficult weekend at Jeff Cup finishing last in their 4th bracket group. They do have some players on that team but I would assume the writing is on the wall and you will see many navy blue Nike back packs at other tryouts in the next few weeks. Jeff Cup is over and recruiting season has begun. Critical time now heading into U14. Need to find a team that will be showcasing at a high level starting at U15 and has the ability to draw strong players.
SDFC, STA-MUSC, STALLIONS all had it rough at the Jeff Cup. @9:22. It will be an interesting tryout season for every team. We are seeing just how the birth year change has effected all the teams and Tournament placement. ( all brackets were a mix of ECNL, NPL and EDP teams)
It looks like Continental and PF tryouts are the same day, time, and location. That should make things quite interesting next month! It also looks like PAC tryouts are a few weeks earlier. I wonder how many kids from PF and CFC will go for the DA at PAC.
3:02 - It may be easier to make the DA team and be a top player at PAC. Plus the tryouts are a few weeks before the PF tryouts so you can already be assured of a DA roster spot.
Let's see, if I'm from the Lancaster, York, or Harrisburg area and currently play for Penn Fusion I'd give a lot of consideration to PAC for DA.Why travel further since PF and PAC are on equal footing now? Unless of course you prefer ECNL over DA.
Liverpool fc? Lol- what a waste of time for anyone even interested. By the time he can even get enough decent players, those players will be in college and it won't mean a thing. He should start with just the young ones and work his way into a program. His other program sucks so what parent will want to pay all that money for a crappy fake academy nonsense except dumb ones.
lol Liverpool that's funny. He has 2 teams currently and the 1 isn't too good. I hear he is asking a lot for the LP team. Totally not worth it. But it's not so much his training that's an issue. I just don't think he knows what he's doing as a business. I've heard a couple of complaints but I'm not one to gossip.
I saw that Cedar Stars Monmouth black beat SJEB 4-1 in the NJ Cup. There is no history for the Cedar Stars team and this is a surprising result because we have played the SJEB team and they are a very solid team. Does anyone have insight into who this Cedar Stars team is? I am thinking that they moved over as a team from another club over the winter break.
Cedar Stars Black is the NJ Wildcats 04 Spring team. The coach and trainer took both his 04 and 03 team to Cedar Stars Mid Year. Trainer never signed a contract with Wildcats and his brother is at Cedar Stars. Sounds Fishy! Cedar Stars Black most likely borrowed players from his brothers Cedar Stars green team for NJ Cup since the Green team did not apply. Shame for the players on black most likely losing playtime to some green players for the win! Should be about development. With Cedar Stars becoming Academy parents and players better understand that the Academy team should be the top 2 players on every elite team in the area including the current Cedar Stars teams, otherwise, the Academy team will be a failure!
We are new to South Jersey. My daughter is looking for a soccer team for next year. She is a competitive player but not DA or ECNL level. I'm looking at her options. Please let me know if I'm missing any clubs and what your thoughts are on choices. GPS, SJEB, PDA, Washington United, Deptford Premeire, Harrison, Medford Strikers. Thanks
Why would the former wildcats team need help from the cedar stars team for the state cup? And if the wildcats went to cedar stars what team is the wildcat team that is in EDP division 1 with that cedar stars team? Something does not add up here. Maybe the whole team didn't go and there will be player sharing between cedar stars black and green to fill out the roster of the new team this spring if that is even allowed
Wildcats 04 is the new Cedar Stars Black team. Wildcats and Cedar Stars Green teams could not beat SJEB in the Fall. Seems they used players from both teams this weekend since they beat SJEB 4-1 in NJ Cup. Both teams will play in the same EDP division this Spring and they will probably share players for those games as well for the wins. Remember the coaches are brothers. Doesn't seem fair to the Cedar Stars Green team that formed in the Fall and is suppose to be their top team.
Academy soccer is not about fairness, if you want fair you should play rec where everyone gets equal time. Academy soccer is not for everyone, some kids thrive, while others will crumble. You need to know if your kid can handle it or better yet, can you as a parent handle it. Most parents can't.
Very funny that you refer to Cedar Stars girls as Academy Soccer. Academy Soccer believes in development of players and if you are successful in development your Academy will be successful. The only real Academy organizations are Red Bulls for the boys and PDA for the girls. Cedar Stars is taking over organizations to try and get quality players to form a girls Academy while PDA can use their existing players. Red Bulls and PDA will continue to pave the way for youth soccer in New Jersey. DA caliber players train 7 days a week and give up most of their youth for soccer and deserve everything they have worked so hard for. By age 15 if your child has worked hard enough and is good enough those organizations will add them to their rosters. Has nothing to do with fairness or what parents can handle!
PDA was the only game in town and therefore they got the best players in order to play ECNL, they didn't develop half the players they have. If they only develop their own players why bother having open tryouts every year. Your logic is flawed.
My daughters team is breaking up. Are there any teams in central jersey worth checking out. Mercer, lower middlesex or northern Burlington counties only. I was referred to match fit but they don't have a team this age and I can't afford them.
GPS(Global Premier Soccer)is starting up in Manalapan... This should be a great opportunity for some girls looking for a new team. Tryouts should be posted soon for GPS premier teams.
@3:10 It's very easy. Just check the top teams in the state through got soccer and see which ones are close by you. http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Country=USA&Level=State&Gender=Girls&Age=13&Region=1&State=NJ
Is this the place where we advertise to the world what clubs everyone should join? Or just where Liverpool advertises? I guess when you have no interest being shown to you, you come on this forum.
This guy is a hater. Go Liverpool, any press is good press. I wish you the best, who ever you are. I do remover a very annoying low class vorhees parent. Assume the same one.
This guy is a hater. Go Liverpool, any press is good press. I wish you the best, who ever you are. I do remover a very annoying low class vorhees parent. Assume the same one.
At 3:10, in mercer county, hopewell, mercer fc and Princeton are all good teams. In northern Burlington, bordentown and Medford strikers appear to be the best of the lot.
Not everyone got the memo that only arrogant pompous fools that totally over estimate the importance of playing for fancy kid soccer teams in fancy kid soccer leagues are allowed to post on this forum.
Still no named team? Apparently there are no teams in that area that teach the game correctly. Since you can't name a team, please tell me how one teaches the game correctly and name a couple teams in your area that may fit that mold.
If you don't know the answer to that, then me giving you the answer isn't going to change your mind.
I'll help you out though, SJEB and PDA. If you don't know that those are the two best programs in South Jersey then I don't know what else to tell you.
Don't forget SJEB is now RUSH starting Aug 1st. From U12-U19 it is now SJEB/Rush but in all actuality its Rush. Rush is the largest youth soccer program in the world 44K players. Each age group has at least 3 teams.
Apparently you didn't read. The commenter wanted tips for an affordable team in mercer or northern Burlington. Shen isn't located there and pda is not affordable. The options listed are solid teams in that area. #dumbass #can't read #promotionofthedeathofyouthsoccer
Then why did you put Medford Strikers as an option? You do realize they're as expensive as PDA & SJEB right? Add in their Universal training which supposedly isn't mandatory but it really is and you're double what the other two are.
7:59 - Are you 4 years old? I ask because your response points to a low IQ. Do you have any idea how the NJ Cup works? First of all genius it's not the state cup, that happened in the fall. Maybe you should Google how SJEB did in that tournament and report back. The spring NJ Cup is just another tournament and if you had half a clue about soccer in the state, you'd know about the team that beat them and the players they used (anyone can put a club all-star team together). I guess their number #1 ranking in the state means nothing to you? #1 GotSoccer and #3 for USA Youth soccer so don't spout off about GotSoccer points meaning nothing. How about you name 5 teams in the state that are better than them?
I am new to this and hope that someone can explain. Why do some teams have their rosters posted on gotsoccer while others do not? I wanted to look up the cedar stars black team that beat sjeb impressively but then narrowly beat watchung hills 1-0 in league play. The roster is hidden. Sta also does not have a roster but sdfc and crush both do. I was told that if you play in tournaments your roster has to be listed but that is obviously wrong information.
Some clubs don't want strangers looking up names for 12/13 year old girls, it's a little creepy. SJEB has a decent team, however they just play long ball, they don't build out of the back and that will catch up to them.
I will explain again! Cedar Stars black is the 04 Wildcats Lopez team from the Fall. The coach and trainer screwed Wildcats and went to Cedar Stars. Cedar Stars has a very good Green team and now they have Cedar Stars black which is another very good team from Wildcats. Both coaches are brothers. You can see how they screwed Wildcats and left mid year leaving the Wildcats with lots of rebuilding and playing in the top division. Will be tough season for Wildcats but everyone in the Division knows what went down. Wildcats went to Cedar Stars because they became a girls DA and brothers had a plan. They play with their own rosters for division play since they play in the same division but come together for tournaments because they can. That is how they are being successful. Green team got screwed as well since some of those girls won't make the tournament roster. Its a mess at Cedar Stars. Parents will be very disappointed after DA tryouts and most players don't make the roster. If they combine the 2 teams for DA it will not be very successful just like most of the Cedar Stars teams. PDA is the place to be if your child is good enough and has worked hard enough!
This all stemmed from someone trying to recommend a local cost effective team, and it turned into an advertisement for PDA and SJEB which fail to meet the requestor's needs. If you can provide an opinion on cost effective and local teams near Mercer County, please chime in.
Unfortunately, no kid soccer team can reasonably be discussed on any soccer forum You need to look at the teams in striking distance that fit your budget, visit them, speak to the coach and choose one. Good luck and have fun with soccer! Perfect fit does not exist.
So because it's your tournament means that. I other good clubs are there? What a stupid comment. PDA Lyon is running away with so I guess the prediction was accurate.
Goal dif was 16-1. C'mon. They are have been the best in NJ for a long time. They are not the greatest show on earth like the las year but still a really darn good team...
So I watched the Sat games. First game there was an own goal and a goal wiith 5 seconds left, game should have been 2-0. Seconds game was against a U12 team, that was completely mis flighted. They are not as far ahead of everyone as a lot of you may think.
So the mighty "play the right way" Lyon team could only muster a 2-0 win against a "kick and run" team. What does that tell you about Lyon? It probably explains why they are so far from the top of the pre ECNL standings.
I'm sorry. The guy who mentioned depth has it dead on...PDA is pretty deep at 2004. Lyon dominated and Zizzou took the 2nd bracket too. Just facts. You can pick out what you want - they rule NJ. If you can't make the team of majority Zizzou group for ECNL next year, try out for Cedar Stars.
Soccer at this level is not about the WINS! It is about the program and coaches. That is why PDA on the girls side will always be the best program in New Jersey. They set the model for elite girls soccer right from the beginning of their existence. The top players will always end up at PDA. Cedar stars could pull together one good team in an age bracket but they will never be able to accomplish what PDA has at every age! Cedar Stars hasn't been able to make that happen on the boys academy side either. Red Bulls has set the bar for boys soccer in New Jersey. There are some other well run organizations on the girls side to play at the next level down like South Jersey Barron and the Wildcats to name a few. They have had programs for many years in New Jersey and are RUN WELL with every player receiving opportunities and very nice facilities. Parents are out of their minds with Soccer! Please ask yourselves what do you want to accomplish at the end of this soccer for your daughter and what does she want. Being an young athlete puts a toll on these girls bodies and later in life most will feel the painful days as they get older and for WHAT! Take it easy parents what will be will be!
While I agree that PDA is the better club on the girls side currently, I think Cedar Stars could end up competing with them in the future. I don't see the Wildcats lasting too much longer and SJEB will get some competition from Copa if they get their program down south up and running. I do believe the 2004 age group has some talented despite what people on this blog say. Competition is good, the more quality teams there are, the better it is for the girls.
Organization is important. Experience is important.Continuity is important. PDA 99 has a coach that started PDA so 19 years at this level. The 00 Coach not as long but with PDA 5 years and and an A license. 01 Coach just 3 at PDA but a multiple state champ winner in high school soccer. 02 Coach is the head coach at RU and been at PDA 14 years. The O3 Coach at PDA over a decade. The 04 coach Sal so 19 years from the start. Another thing is these guys are not coaching 2 or 3 teams(The 00 coach does the 05's but its not his first responsibility. So just having 1 team, being experienced like say 10-20 years at one club, Continuity -04's same guy for 6 years, 03 for 7 years, 99's for 11 years and the reputation that keeps bringing them from all over. I'm sure Cedar Stars, MFA, SJE have lots of talented people but they don't have all the ingredients to compete at all ages.
Serious question for anyone associated with SDFC. What are you guys doing for the fall? Are you staying, leaving as a team, or just breaking up? Just wondering.
@ 6:58 why are you asking? Are you just curious or interested in the team? If you are interested in the team, I would recommend reaching out to the coach instead of listening to anonymous posters who may not even be from the team giving you answers that may or may not be true.
@6.58 SDFC sticking together, girls enjoying and well-liked coach. We have been told adding some players as have small squad, some good players have come training so far. As above poster, anything more detailed than that would reach out to coach.
Does it matter what team a player came from when looking for a new team? For example, If a coach is selecting one of two players of similar skill set - would the coach consider the teams the player played on in the past?
Would a coach second guess taking a player that looked good in tryouts cause they came from a less competitive team?
No they would take the player that best fits with the existing team and has a similar style as the rest of the players on the team. Sometime coaches are only looking for certian position at try outs to fill gaps in the team. Like PDA north Sjeb any of the big name clubs they are only looking for a few spots. If you don't crack there top 6 to 7 they might pass on you. Just the nature of the beast.
If there is a specific team you r looking at contact the coach and go to a practice. This way the coach can get a good look at your kid and how she measures up to the existing team. Try outs r tuff when there r 60+ Kids on the field to get noticed cause everyone is doing me ball to impress the coaches cause that is what happens at try outs kids r trying to stand out.
What happened with Cedar Stars/TSF Cup game? It's says the game was halted by ref with 15 minutes left in game and must be replayed in its entirety. Weather? Was there any score when it was stopped?
6:49 The score was 0-0 when the game was stopped due to poor field conditions. Wouldn't the teams go to OT and then penalties? Where is the rule that allows the game to be replayed in it's entirety.
That was the correct thing to do if it happened that way. You can't go directly to pks if the full game isn't played. If he deemed the field unplayable, it was correct to call a replay. It sucks they couldn't look at the forecast and see they weren't going to get the game in.
The game was on turf? not grass? That changes everything. If the game was on turf and play was started, it shouldn't have been stopped unless there was lightening.
If the referee deems the field unsafe they will call the game. If the turf was holding water as the one poster mentioned, the ref will call the game regardless of the score or whether its turf or grass. Safety first.
There's no logic from the ref then. So a wet slippery field in normal rain is safe but small puddles that actually slow the game down is unsafe? Why do teams play in the snow then? No logic at all in stopping that game - unless the home team was worried about losing in pks to an inferior team and hounded the ref to stop it.
8:18 No one who was there would question the referee's decision to stop the game. They might question why the game was played or was not stopped at half time. There is a specific rule on the NJ State Cup website (F.1) "Games terminated after the first half is completed will be considered a finished game and the score will stand." There is another rule that says when games finish in a tie you go to OT and then penalty kicks. That would make sense here since the game was about over and the teams would just be finishing things as if the game had continued, seems fair to both teams and practical since they only have 4 days to get a result.
Is there some other rule that allows the game to be replayed.
Not a Stars parent, just tired of seeing ridiculous posts based on no evidence made by anonymous adults, who are so caught up in their daughters U13 soccer team, that they feel the need to constantly rip everyteam to make themselves feel better about their daughters obvious lack of success.
Spanky? Your douche level keeps rising. If you daughter were as good as you say she is, you wouldn't feel the need to rip other teams on a message board. You are a sad human being.
it said PDA won 5-3 in pks the other day. wonder what happened? between this game and the cedar stars game, what the heck is going on with this tournament?
Junior? I feel like I am watching a Dice Clay special from 1991. I certainly don't come here to rip 12 year old girls. Sometimes people post scores here before they are posted elsewhere. Sometimes you can read about someone's experience with clubs. Why do you come here? Seems like you just want to bash clubs, brag about your child and act like some kind of blog tough guy. Do me a favor, let me know where your kid plays so I can avoid being associated with someone like you.
From where? I heard it's just a high cost rec program that didn't even get enough girls in our age group to field a team. I heard a few girls paid to commit and he said no team but kept deposit anyway. Sounds like a real jerk.
Sounds like a Barry move. I have dealt with him first hand. I would stay far away from anything he is involved in. I am not saying that to start crap just informing people before they get screwed. Soccer is already drama but I don't agree with adults trying to get over on parents and kids over this game.
Not for long . A lot of PF kids are leaving to go to CFC and now with PAC getting a DA PF will not be getting all those Harrisburg, Lancaster kids etc that they recruit . Also people are getting sick of the Tino bullshit at PF .
I 2nd the Liverpool situation and his current IG situation. He has a habit of BS-ing parents. He will offer things on paper, families pay, he takes things away then doesn't inform families and doesn't offer a refund on what he took away. Comes up with all sorts of excuses for doing it when a few parents do figure it out. He should be ashamed of himself. The fact he is doing this to a handful of kids on the team that are really good, sucks even more. He doesn't deserve anyone's kids to train or coach. Funny thing is he's so worried about people talking negative about him ahaha, I wonder why! People have the right to know what he's doing. STAY AWAY!
2:19 I'm really shocked and sorry to hear that about Barry. My daughter trained with Barry when she was younger and he was great . Hearing he is acting like that is very disappointing . Did the parents ask for a refund and were refused ?
It's my understanding someone asked for a refund and he claimed prices increased that was his excuse. He may get over on families that don't know any better but a few parents are holding on to their last payment. It comes down to the ole mighty dollar anymore if you have ever read all the crap on the u14 blog. And if he ever reads this I hope he sits back and thinks about the non sense he is causing himself and others and it is true what people are saying so he can't cry or feel attacked. The truth is the truth and facts are facts. No one is dragging his "good" name through the mud but him. He also needs to stop talking about money issues with the kids.
3:25 Sounds like he's also not a very good business man .Like I said, my daughter trained with him when she was younger . At that time he was working for a club as their coach . He was well liked as a coach but of course wasn't handling money and running it at as a business at the time . I hope the parents get their money back. I
That sounds like bs. So PDA won, the ref made a mistake and they made them re-take the whole shootout? Sounds like NJ Cup shenanigans at it's finest. Wouldn't expect any different with the guy who runs it.
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In a few years it will be PDA and Cedar Stars as the top teams at this age group.
What do you mean top teams?
Win the most games?
Win the most tournaments?
Have the most got soccer points?
Get the most college money to any college?
Get the most college money to a college the player would like to attend?
Use soccer to help get a kid to quality academic college?
Offer a quality soccer experience by breaking the bank?
Offer a quality soccer experience and not break the bank?
Help a kid develop their character?
What are you saying and why?
Style and level of play.
Why would say that?
With SJEB and Rush merging, the new 04' team could be lethal. A lot of strong 04's in South Jersey. The SJEB team is already good, adding more firepower will only improve an impressive squad. I have a feeling some past teammates may be reuniting. Should be interesting to hear who makes the new squad. They will have a big pool to pull from.
Saw SJEB play this past fall, average team.
I will take average any day of the week. Usually people say a team is horrible on this board. Regardless, should be interesting to what happens. They won't get the elite 04's in the area but they will improve to say the least. Happy for them.
@11:22 When did NJ Rush get an 04 team.
@12:22 so what team will the south jersey area's 'elite' 04 players be on?
What is the difference between an elite player and a very good player?
Rush does not have an 04 team, any 04 players play on their 03 team. With the merge Rush officially has an 04 team now.
Not sure what the other post was about but in my opinion the elites are the players in the area that are extremely good. NTC players who play on 03 and 02 teams and are play makers. In soccer age does not always define ability.
Nj rush has a 04 team for the spring season
The team is scheduled for only three games?
Is anyone playing this weekend? If so, what's it looking like? Any big names or really good teams?
FC Europa cup this weekend. Some very good teams in the top 2 divisons. Should be good soccer.
9:54
Which teams are you referring to in the Europa Cup?
probably teams not as good as your daughters team.
At FC Europa Cup...Philly Coppa Swarm, Hulmeville, PHWM SC Red, North Union, FC Rev, PA Rush, Valley Voodoo, FC Europa, Harrison Dynamite to name a few in top 2 brackets.
Which are the very good ones?
My bad, didn't realize this was only an ECNL blog.
That Europa cup turned out to be a great tournament. You should have seen how Mother Nature just dominated everyone and took all those gotsoccer points with her.
Updated ECNL conferences for next season
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/2017/03/14/ecnl-announces-initial-2017-2018-girls-membership/
Biggest waste of time ever. Every road game is like 20 hours away and it's an almost required stay over. Further, many of the teams are nothing special. Just a lot of money for nothing more than what you can get in a local division.
Local leagues are looking good. That travel is a beast. Why don't they double the number of ECNL clubs and get reduce that ugly travel burden?
Because then it wouldn't be ELITE Clubs National League. It would be LCNL - Local Clubs National League
No. You could capture more strong players that could participate if travel was not so burdensome.
Actually YES. You can fight it all you want, but most and notice I said most and not all, but most of the better players will flock to the ECNL clubs. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but that's just what happens. The ones that can't perform at that level will funnel back down and there will be a new crop trying the next year. Eventually 99% of the players end up where they should be. There's really no need to get your heart rate up about it at this age. Let your daughter play where she is comfortable and if she's driven to try the next level up, give her the opportunity. It's really not rocket science, it's the parents' egos that get in the way and screw up the experience for the kid. JUST LET THEM PLAY!
Disagree. You cannot get blood from a stone. Only the strong players with the time and money to join such a league will join such a league. If you pay attention, you see which players do and do not pursue it and how that relates to $$$ available in addition to talent.
Free boys academies have more lower income talent participating due to the lower costs. Same would happen on the girl's side if the GDA had a similar set up, which it does not.
The best players at this age group already play ECNL or National League, they play up.... The best 04's will not play age appropriate. They would be going backwards in training and potential.
I do not think that is accurate. Do you get the opportunity to watch top players across other leagues and platforms? IF so, I don't think you would say that.
Did YOU watch ALL the top players from ALL the other leagues? Nobody has time to do that so just stop with the nonsense. Back to my original statement that MOST of the better players will go to the top leagues regardless of price. Are there some that can't afford it? Sure, that's why it's most and not all.
Why you're arguing this is ridiculous, it just shows you have an inherent bias against the ECNL and the DA. The reason your argument about price doesn't hold water is, there's not a club out there that wouldn't take a kid because they can't afford it. All clubs, especially the top ones, have financial assistance for those who truly can't afford it. I'm not talking about the family making $150k+ who say they can't "afford" it because they drive around two mortgage payments trying to look rich and then complain they can't afford soccer fees for their kids.
It is not my argument. It has been said for years about soccer in the US.
Why does the free boys DA have a lower income demographic?
This argument will begin to settle itself as some of the funded girl's academy programs begin to operate. We will see if lower income talent can access and thrive in these programs.
Stop playing semantics, it's an argument you obviously subscribe to.
What are your numbers (facts) that backup the boys DA having a lower income demographic? Since you said it, I'm assuming you can back that up with data? In other words, you're saying all the players' families in the boys DA program are surveyed and they disclose their income? Similarly, how did you come across that info for the girls DA players - especially when the girls DA players haven't even been selected yet? It seems as though your argument, sorry the argument that has been said for years about soccer in the US, is based on something other than concrete facts.
This is going off tangent so I'll bring it back to the original discussion - how do you know that kids from lower income families won't have equal access to the DA clubs as everyone else?
There are dozens and dozens of sources chronicling how high level soccer in the US in wealthy and white because of the cost. Google is your friend. You could also just look around the next time you attend a high level youth game. Or notice which of the strong players left your local club and went to the pricey academies and how that relates to wealth and not just talent.
High cost will obviously limit the player pool but the boys have apparently made progress and I hope the same for the girls.
This is from soccer america about the boys da - and talks about how it is starting to attract more diverse players. (more does not mean many)
"......A decade later, youth soccer remains too expensive, but there has been a significant amount of progress in addressing the “diversity problem.” Some of which should have been hard to ignore for Carpenter, who last November wrote a Guardian article about the FC Dallas youth program. FC Dallas won the 2015 U.S. Soccer Development Academy U-16 national title with a team whose was roster was more than 50 percent Latino.
In fact, the U.S. Soccer Development Academy has vastly increased the opportunities for lower-income players to climb the ladder and has made elite youth soccer more diverse. While MLS clubs subsidize their academy programs so players don’t have to pay, U.S. Soccer’s financial aid program has paid out nearly $2 million in DA scholarship funds since 2008. U.S. Soccer’s nationwide network of Training Centers to identify players with youth national team potential are cost-free. Latinos comprised a third of the DA’s 66 all-conference selections for 2015-16 season and are well represented on DA clubs in areas with significant Hispanic communities.
Moreover, 13 percent of the Development Academy players are immigrants, born in more than 100 different nations, nearly 40 percent from Latin American countries."
OMG, talking with you is like talking to a 3rd grader. WHERE are your facts? Not an opinion column quote that you didn't even credit. WHERE are the facts on the girls DA and cost? WHERE is the demographic info you spoke about for the boys and girls? I'm not talking about whether someone is Latino or White or Green and from the moon, I want you to post the financial information backing up your claim. You can't so let's just end this.
Agree. You clearly live a different youth soccer reality than I do.
Hard to argue with a women, they always win in my house. Run away dude.
1:04 - Clearly...yours is called fairy tale land
1:08 - Spot on
The best players are not going to go to a DA. Logistically it is impossible. If your child attends a NTC, that ideally would be your GDA team. Those players come from up to 80 miles in each direction.
136 - not sure I understand. NTC is further than GDA for many. in NJ we have three options so far, cedar stars in south, PDA central and NYSC in the north, just over the border. All three are closer for many then the NTC.
We will see soon enough if the played pool for the funded GDA teams is any different than the played pool for pay to play.
Who is funding GDA. I have heard of one team in LA. Any other ones?
Parents are funding it all. Even the ones that get scholarships based on need will be paid by the other parents , even if the paying child is better.
And Lyon starts the season with a loss.
Why are we even focused on Lyon? Isn't Barcelona the beat pda team? Didn't they beat Lyon and dominate their league?
Lyon and Barcelona haven't played, what are you talking about? Lyon is the Pre-ECNL team for the club, they should be better.
They are better just someone trying to stir the pot
Barcelona had a difficult weekend at Jeff Cup finishing last in their 4th bracket group. They do have some players on that team but I would assume the writing is on the wall and you will see many navy blue Nike back packs at other tryouts in the next few weeks. Jeff Cup is over and recruiting season has begun. Critical time now heading into U14. Need to find a team that will be showcasing at a high level starting at U15 and has the ability to draw strong players.
Zizou and PDA Shore Sting also got smashed, rough tournament for PDA.
NJ 04 teams did not do well at Jeff Cup.
I agree looked like SJEB 04 had a rough weekend as well. Oh well, thats soccer.
SDFC, STA-MUSC, STALLIONS all had it rough at the Jeff Cup.
@9:22. It will be an interesting tryout season for every team. We are seeing just how the birth year change has effected all the teams and Tournament placement. ( all brackets were a mix of ECNL, NPL and EDP teams)
PA teams did okay though, made it to the finals of seconds flights anyway.
SDFC ARE DONE STALLIONS DONE BOG AVERAGEEE
It looks like Continental and PF tryouts are the same day, time, and location. That should make things quite interesting next month! It also looks like PAC tryouts are a few weeks earlier. I wonder how many kids from PF and CFC will go for the DA at PAC.
Penn fusion has DA y would kids leave there
3:02 - It may be easier to make the DA team and be a top player at PAC. Plus the tryouts are a few weeks before the PF tryouts so you can already be assured of a DA roster spot.
Let's see, if I'm from the Lancaster, York, or Harrisburg area and currently play for Penn Fusion I'd give a lot of consideration to PAC for DA.Why travel further since PF and PAC are on equal footing now? Unless of course you prefer ECNL over DA.
how in the heck did PA Classics get a DA? Maybe the same way Cedar Stars did?
If you knew what went into getting DA status, maybe you would have a clue.
Anyone can get da, it's a joke.
No one cares about the DA when Liverpool FC is having tryouts this weekend! Hahahahaha
Liverpool fc? Lol- what a waste of time for anyone even interested. By the time he can even get enough decent players, those players will be in college and it won't mean a thing. He should start with just the young ones and work his way into a program. His other program sucks so what parent will want to pay all that money for a crappy fake academy nonsense except dumb ones.
Why all the hate for the Liverpool FC coach ? He used to train my daughter and he was great .
I'm sure he trained this guys daughter for years. But she never played.
lol Liverpool that's funny. He has 2 teams currently and the 1 isn't too good. I hear he is asking a lot for the LP team. Totally not worth it. But it's not so much his training that's an issue. I just don't think he knows what he's doing as a business. I've heard a couple of complaints but I'm not one to gossip.
I saw that Cedar Stars Monmouth black beat SJEB 4-1 in the NJ Cup. There is no history for the Cedar Stars team and this is a surprising result because we have played the SJEB team and they are a very solid team. Does anyone have insight into who this Cedar Stars team is? I am thinking that they moved over as a team from another club over the winter break.
Here we go again, Voorhees guy talking to himself with multiple posts to try and throw people off.
He can't let vorhees days go. He thought this team was going to the moon. It's actually sad.
Cedar Stars Black is the NJ Wildcats 04 Spring team. The coach and trainer took both his 04 and 03 team to Cedar Stars Mid Year. Trainer never signed a contract with Wildcats and his brother is at Cedar Stars. Sounds Fishy! Cedar Stars Black most likely borrowed players from his brothers Cedar Stars green team for NJ Cup since the Green team did not apply. Shame for the players on black most likely losing playtime to some green players for the win! Should be about development. With Cedar Stars becoming Academy parents and players better understand that the Academy team should be the top 2 players on every elite team in the area including the current Cedar Stars teams, otherwise, the Academy team will be a failure!
We are new to South Jersey. My daughter is looking for a soccer team for next year. She is a competitive player but not DA or ECNL level. I'm looking at her options. Please let me know if I'm missing any clubs and what your thoughts are on choices. GPS, SJEB, PDA, Washington United, Deptford Premeire, Harrison, Medford Strikers. Thanks
What kind of information are you looking? Go watch the teams play. You can tell a lot about the coach and level play.
Depends on how South you are and how much you can afford. Tbaa is also a solid team but none of those teams are bad choices.
I guess someone's daughter from Cedar Stars didn't make the state cup roster.
Why would the former wildcats team need help from the cedar stars team for the state cup? And if the wildcats went to cedar stars what team is the wildcat team that is in EDP division 1 with that cedar stars team? Something does not add up here. Maybe the whole team didn't go and there will be player sharing between cedar stars black and green to fill out the roster of the new team this spring if that is even allowed
When you play at an academy, there is movement between teams in the same age group. One player could essentially be rostered on 3 teams.
Never seen that. They talk about, but never do it.
Wildcats 04 is the new Cedar Stars Black team. Wildcats and Cedar Stars Green teams could not beat SJEB in the Fall. Seems they used players from both teams this weekend since they beat SJEB 4-1 in NJ Cup. Both teams will play in the same EDP division this Spring and they will probably share players for those games as well for the wins. Remember the coaches are brothers. Doesn't seem fair to the Cedar Stars Green team that formed in the Fall and is suppose to be their top team.
Pre-ECNL local weekend games:
World Class 0-0 vs East Meadow
PDA 1-0 vs East Meadow
Not much scoring here. Last time it was 2-2 for WC & EM and last time it was a 2-0 win for EM over PDA.
Academy soccer is not about fairness, if you want fair you should play rec where everyone gets equal time. Academy soccer is not for everyone, some kids thrive, while others will crumble. You need to know if your kid can handle it or better yet, can you as a parent handle it. Most parents can't.
Very funny that you refer to Cedar Stars girls as Academy Soccer. Academy Soccer believes in development of players and if you are successful in development your Academy will be successful. The only real Academy organizations are Red Bulls for the boys and PDA for the girls. Cedar Stars is taking over organizations to try and get quality players to form a girls Academy while PDA can use their existing players. Red Bulls and PDA will continue to pave the way for youth soccer in New Jersey. DA caliber players train 7 days a week and give up most of their youth for soccer and deserve everything they have worked so hard for. By age 15 if your child has worked hard enough and is good enough those organizations will add them to their rosters. Has nothing to do with fairness or what parents can handle!
PDA was the only game in town and therefore they got the best players in order to play ECNL, they didn't develop half the players they have. If they only develop their own players why bother having open tryouts every year. Your logic is flawed.
My daughters team is breaking up. Are there any teams in central jersey worth checking out. Mercer, lower middlesex or northern Burlington counties only. I was referred to match fit but they don't have a team this age and I can't afford them.
I thought matchfit had like 7 U13 girls teams
GPS(Global Premier Soccer)is starting up in Manalapan... This should be a great opportunity for some girls looking for a new team. Tryouts should be posted soon for GPS premier teams.
@3:10 It's very easy. Just check the top teams in the state through got soccer and see which ones are close by you. http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Country=USA&Level=State&Gender=Girls&Age=13&Region=1&State=NJ
Click here for Liverpool - NJ Tryout page
I do not believe this Liverpool team is anywhere in the rankings. Why is it constantly discussed on this blog?
I wasn't aware that a team had to have a certain ranking to be worthy of discussion. What's the cutoff? 15,25?
They are desperate. Anyone that shows up will make team. They only had 5 showup at tryouts for our age. Rumor is they will combine ages.
Is this the place where we advertise to the world what clubs everyone should join? Or just where Liverpool advertises? I guess when you have no interest being shown to you, you come on this forum.
This guy is a hater.
Go Liverpool, any press is good press. I wish you the best, who ever you are.
I do remover a very annoying low class vorhees parent. Assume the same one.
This guy is a hater.
Go Liverpool, any press is good press. I wish you the best, who ever you are.
I do remover a very annoying low class vorhees parent. Assume the same one.
PDA Tournament brackets up: Looks like four very solid brackets.
https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/master.aspx?eid=349
At 3:10, in mercer county, hopewell, mercer fc and Princeton are all good teams. In northern Burlington, bordentown and Medford strikers appear to be the best of the lot.
https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/master.aspx?eid=349
9:42 You are kidding right? Medford Strikers? Do you really type that? Mercer FC? Boredentown?
Not everyone got the memo that only arrogant pompous fools that totally over estimate the importance of playing for fancy kid soccer teams in fancy kid soccer leagues are allowed to post on this forum.
At 7:06, what teams in that area would you consider?
Ones that teach you how to play the game correctly.
Still no named team? Apparently there are no teams in that area that teach the game correctly. Since you can't name a team, please tell me how one teaches the game correctly and name a couple teams in your area that may fit that mold.
If you don't know the answer to that, then me giving you the answer isn't going to change your mind.
I'll help you out though, SJEB and PDA. If you don't know that those are the two best programs in South Jersey then I don't know what else to tell you.
And if you're willing to jump across the river, PSC Coppa 04.
Don't forget SJEB is now RUSH starting Aug 1st. From U12-U19 it is now SJEB/Rush but in all actuality its Rush. Rush is the largest youth soccer program in the world 44K players. Each age group has at least 3 teams.
Move to PA! Seems like only strappers from Jersey post here.
@ 11:28
44,000 players, 3 teams at every age. Sign me up.
Apparently you didn't read. The commenter wanted tips for an affordable team in mercer or northern Burlington. Shen isn't located there and pda is not affordable. The options listed are solid teams in that area. #dumbass #can't read #promotionofthedeathofyouthsoccer
Then why did you put Medford Strikers as an option? You do realize they're as expensive as PDA & SJEB right? Add in their Universal training which supposedly isn't mandatory but it really is and you're double what the other two are.
#dumbass #cluelessaboutyouthsoccer #cantread #doyourhomeworkbeforeyouspeak
I would actually like to see PDA use the players they had back in 2014 to form their DA
It might be quite amusing
SJEB? How are they a premier club at this age. All three of their teams lost first game in New Jersey cup. Are you even paying attention?
It's soccer can win and loose any game
Sjeb had a good fall season. We will see how spring goes.
7:59 - Are you 4 years old? I ask because your response points to a low IQ. Do you have any idea how the NJ Cup works? First of all genius it's not the state cup, that happened in the fall. Maybe you should Google how SJEB did in that tournament and report back. The spring NJ Cup is just another tournament and if you had half a clue about soccer in the state, you'd know about the team that beat them and the players they used (anyone can put a club all-star team together). I guess their number #1 ranking in the state means nothing to you? #1 GotSoccer and #3 for USA Youth soccer so don't spout off about GotSoccer points meaning nothing. How about you name 5 teams in the state that are better than them?
I am new to this and hope that someone can explain. Why do some teams have their rosters posted on gotsoccer while others do not? I wanted to look up the cedar stars black team that beat sjeb impressively but then narrowly beat watchung hills 1-0 in league play. The roster is hidden. Sta also does not have a roster but sdfc and crush both do. I was told that if you play in tournaments your roster has to be listed but that is obviously wrong information.
Some clubs don't want strangers looking up names for 12/13 year old girls, it's a little creepy. SJEB has a decent team, however they just play long ball, they don't build out of the back and that will catch up to them.
I will explain again! Cedar Stars black is the 04 Wildcats Lopez team from the Fall. The coach and trainer screwed Wildcats and went to Cedar Stars. Cedar Stars has a very good Green team and now they have Cedar Stars black which is another very good team from Wildcats. Both coaches are brothers. You can see how they screwed Wildcats and left mid year leaving the Wildcats with lots of rebuilding and playing in the top division. Will be tough season for Wildcats but everyone in the Division knows what went down. Wildcats went to Cedar Stars because they became a girls DA and brothers had a plan. They play with their own rosters for division play since they play in the same division but come together for tournaments because they can. That is how they are being successful. Green team got screwed as well since some of those girls won't make the tournament roster. Its a mess at Cedar Stars. Parents will be very disappointed after DA tryouts and most players don't make the roster. If they combine the 2 teams for DA it will not be very successful just like most of the Cedar Stars teams. PDA is the place to be if your child is good enough and has worked hard enough!
And if you can't afford PDA or have the time or ability to travel all the time? What teams are worth looking at?
Gee..how about one cheaper and closer. It is not rocket science.
This all stemmed from someone trying to recommend a local cost effective team, and it turned into an advertisement for PDA and SJEB which fail to meet the requestor's needs. If you can provide an opinion on cost effective and local teams near Mercer County, please chime in.
Unfortunately, no kid soccer team can reasonably be discussed on any soccer forum You need to look at the teams in striking distance that fit your budget, visit them, speak to the coach and choose one. Good luck and have fun with soccer! Perfect fit does not exist.
I think Cedar Stars Monmouth will have decent teams for the 2003 & 2004 DA teams, not every team is going to be PDA.
PDA Tournament Predictions?
Pda will run away with it no good teams there!
Nothing more prestigious then winning your own tourney.
It is hater,what club are you from ?
So because it's your tournament means that. I other good clubs are there? What a stupid comment. PDA Lyon is running away with so I guess the prediction was accurate.
That *no other
Crickets". " PDA all the way good try townies.
Watched 2 of Lyons games this weekend. Good team, not great. Have more depth than the other teams, that was the biggest difference
Well Lyon out scored opponents 15-1. No other team in the entire tournament boys or girls had a 14 goal differential.
What would a great team have done? 15-0?
Goal dif was 16-1. C'mon. They are have been the best in NJ for a long time. They are not the greatest show on earth like the las year but still a really darn good team...
So I watched the Sat games. First game there was an own goal and a goal wiith 5 seconds left, game should have been 2-0. Seconds game was against a U12 team, that was completely mis flighted. They are not as far ahead of everyone as a lot of you may think.
And on Sunday they beat the joke of a team kick and run barons.
So the mighty "play the right way" Lyon team could only muster a 2-0 win against a "kick and run" team. What does that tell you about Lyon? It probably explains why they are so far from the top of the pre ECNL standings.
I'm sorry. The guy who mentioned depth has it dead on...PDA is pretty deep at 2004. Lyon dominated and Zizzou took the 2nd bracket too. Just facts. You can pick out what you want - they rule NJ. If you can't make the team of majority Zizzou group for ECNL next year, try out for Cedar Stars.
Zizou can't even beat PDA South - which isn't saying much but it is what it is.
So why can't Lyon beat a kick and run team by more than 2-0? You never answered that. And why are they in SIXTH place in their league?
Crickets...
Soccer at this level is not about the WINS! It is about the program and coaches. That is why PDA on the girls side will always be the best program in New Jersey. They set the model for elite girls soccer right from the beginning of their existence. The top players will always end up at PDA. Cedar stars could pull together one good team in an age bracket but they will never be able to accomplish what PDA has at every age! Cedar Stars hasn't been able to make that happen on the boys academy side either. Red Bulls has set the bar for boys soccer in New Jersey. There are some other well run organizations on the girls side to play at the next level down like South Jersey Barron and the Wildcats to name a few. They have had programs for many years in New Jersey and are RUN WELL with every player receiving opportunities and very nice facilities. Parents are out of their minds with Soccer! Please ask yourselves what do you want to accomplish at the end of this soccer for your daughter and what does she want. Being an young athlete puts a toll on these girls bodies and later in life most will feel the painful days as they get older and for WHAT! Take it easy parents what will be will be!
While I agree that PDA is the better club on the girls side currently, I think Cedar Stars could end up competing with them in the future. I don't see the Wildcats lasting too much longer and SJEB will get some competition from Copa if they get their program down south up and running. I do believe the 2004 age group has some talented despite what people on this blog say. Competition is good, the more quality teams there are, the better it is for the girls.
Organization is important. Experience is important.Continuity is important. PDA 99 has a coach that started PDA so 19 years at this level. The 00 Coach not as long but with PDA 5 years and and an A license. 01 Coach just 3 at PDA but a multiple state champ winner in high school soccer. 02 Coach is the head coach at RU and been at PDA 14 years. The O3 Coach at PDA over a decade. The 04 coach Sal so 19 years from the start. Another thing is these guys are not coaching 2 or 3 teams(The 00 coach does the 05's but its not his first responsibility. So just having 1 team, being experienced like say 10-20 years at one club, Continuity -04's same guy for 6 years, 03 for 7 years, 99's for 11 years and the reputation that keeps bringing them from all over. I'm sure Cedar Stars, MFA, SJE have lots of talented people but they don't have all the ingredients to compete at all ages.
nobody's got anything good to say?
Serious question for anyone associated with SDFC. What are you guys doing for the fall? Are you staying, leaving as a team, or just breaking up? Just wondering.
@ 6:58 why are you asking? Are you just curious or interested in the team? If you are interested in the team, I would recommend reaching out to the coach instead of listening to anonymous posters who may not even be from the team giving you answers that may or may not be true.
@6.58 SDFC sticking together, girls enjoying and well-liked coach. We have been told adding some players as have small squad, some good players have come training so far. As above poster, anything more detailed than that would reach out to coach.
Does it matter what team a player came from when looking for a new team? For example, If a coach is selecting one of two players of similar skill set - would the coach consider the teams the player played on in the past?
Would a coach second guess taking a player that looked good in tryouts cause they came from a less competitive team?
No they would take the player that best fits with the existing team and has a similar style as the rest of the players on the team. Sometime coaches are only looking for certian position at try outs to fill gaps in the team. Like PDA north Sjeb any of the big name clubs they are only looking for a few spots. If you don't crack there top 6 to 7 they might pass on you. Just the nature of the beast.
7:08
no
but a player from a lesser team may go unnoticed if she does not doing something to GET noticed at the tryout.
In other words - with no big team history coming in the coaches need to have their eyes opened by something your daughter does at the session.
Just going there and playing solid soccer may not suffice.
Hope this helps - and good luck
If there is a specific team you r looking at contact the coach and go to a practice. This way the coach can get a good look at your kid and how she measures up to the existing team. Try outs r tuff when there r 60+ Kids on the field to get noticed cause everyone is doing me ball to impress the coaches cause that is what happens at try outs kids r trying to stand out.
Manalapan GPS (Global Premier Soccer) 2004 Girls have tryouts;
4/27, 7.30-9pm, Field A Zone 2
5/4, 7.30-9pm, Field A Zone 4
93 Freehold Road Manalapan, NJ 07726
@8:19 is this the current Manalapan Sting team?
What happened with Cedar Stars/TSF Cup game? It's says the game was halted by ref with 15 minutes left in game and must be replayed in its entirety. Weather? Was there any score when it was stopped?
6:49 The score was 0-0 when the game was stopped due to poor field conditions. Wouldn't the teams go to OT and then penalties? Where is the rule that allows the game to be replayed in it's entirety.
Poor field conditions? So the field was fine the first 50 minutes of the game and now its not? What a joke. Go to PK's and be done with it.
8:18
That was the correct thing to do if it happened that way. You can't go directly to pks if the full game isn't played. If he deemed the field unplayable, it was correct to call a replay. It sucks they couldn't look at the forecast and see they weren't going to get the game in.
Daughters friend plays for Cedar Stars, said the ball was stopping in puddles on the turf, rained all day.
9:48
The game was on turf? not grass? That changes everything. If the game was on turf and play was started, it shouldn't have been stopped unless there was lightening.
If the referee deems the field unsafe they will call the game. If the turf was holding water as the one poster mentioned, the ref will call the game regardless of the score or whether its turf or grass. Safety first.
There's no logic from the ref then. So a wet slippery field in normal rain is safe but small puddles that actually slow the game down is unsafe? Why do teams play in the snow then? No logic at all in stopping that game - unless the home team was worried about losing in pks to an inferior team and hounded the ref to stop it.
8:18 No one who was there would question the referee's decision to stop the game. They might question why the game was played or was not stopped at half time. There is a specific rule on the NJ State Cup website (F.1) "Games terminated after the first half is completed will be considered a finished game and the score will stand." There is another rule that says when games finish in a tie you go to OT and then penalty kicks. That would make sense here since the game was about over and the teams would just be finishing things as if the game had continued, seems fair to both teams and practical since they only have 4 days to get a result.
Is there some other rule that allows the game to be replayed.
The home team hounded the ref? That is what your sad paranoid ass is suggesting? You are a complete toolbag. Paranoid much.
Awwwww, the little simple minded Cedar Stars parents got their little feelings hurt.
Not a Stars parent, just tired of seeing ridiculous posts based on no evidence made by anonymous adults, who are so caught up in their daughters U13 soccer team, that they feel the need to constantly rip everyteam to make themselves feel better about their daughters obvious lack of success.
settle down skippy and get a grip
Anyone who still uses the name Skippy, I obviously a douchebag
Okay chief, we hear you. Go back to mommies basement now.
Now you go with chief? What year do you live in? Go back to rec soccer where your kid was a star and you were happy.
Ouch, the old tired "rec" comment. What year are you from? My daughter plays ECNL and is probably going DA next year. Got it spanky?
What happened with the PDA/STA State Cup game? Score is posted as 0-0 with no winner.
It says pda won in shootout u have to click on the game when it's a tie.
It says penalty kicks to be taken.
Spanky? Your douche level keeps rising. If you daughter were as good as you say she is, you wouldn't feel the need to rip other teams on a message board. You are a sad human being.
Ok junior, what brings you here then? You sound like white trash with your constant references to "douche". Pathetic
it said PDA won 5-3 in pks the other day. wonder what happened? between this game and the cedar stars game, what the heck is going on with this tournament?
Junior? I feel like I am watching a Dice Clay special from 1991. I certainly don't come here to rip 12 year old girls. Sometimes people post scores here before they are posted elsewhere. Sometimes you can read about someone's experience with clubs. Why do you come here? Seems like you just want to bash clubs, brag about your child and act like some kind of blog tough guy. Do me a favor, let me know where your kid plays so I can avoid being associated with someone like you.
Hickory dickory dock...oh, never mind sizzle chest.
Did liverpool fade away?
Lots of talent at Liverpool.
From where? I heard it's just a high cost rec program that didn't even get enough girls in our age group to field a team. I heard a few girls paid to commit and he said no team but kept deposit anyway. Sounds like a real jerk.
Sounds like a Barry move. I have dealt with him first hand. I would stay far away from anything he is involved in. I am not saying that to start crap just informing people before they get screwed. Soccer is already drama but I don't agree with adults trying to get over on parents and kids over this game.
Who cares about all these Jersey teams, PA soccer is better!
PA has one good team penn fusion
Not for long . A lot of PF kids are leaving to go to CFC and now with PAC getting a DA PF will not be getting all those Harrisburg, Lancaster kids etc that they recruit .
Also people are getting sick of the Tino bullshit at PF .
It should be an interesting night at USTC with PF DA and CFC ECNL tryouts happening at the same time and place!
Philly soccer has the best PA team at this age.
Meh...yet to be impressed with any team from Philly.
I 2nd the Liverpool situation and his current IG situation. He has a habit of BS-ing parents. He will offer things on paper, families pay, he takes things away then doesn't inform families and doesn't offer a refund on what he took away. Comes up with all sorts of excuses for doing it when a few parents do figure it out. He should be ashamed of himself. The fact he is doing this to a handful of kids on the team that are really good, sucks even more. He doesn't deserve anyone's kids to train or coach. Funny thing is he's so worried about people talking negative about him ahaha, I wonder why! People have the right to know what he's doing. STAY AWAY!
2:19 I'm really shocked and sorry to hear that about Barry. My daughter trained with Barry when she was younger and he was great .
Hearing he is acting like that is very disappointing .
Did the parents ask for a refund and were refused ?
It's my understanding someone asked for a refund and he claimed prices increased that was his excuse. He may get over on families that don't know any better but a few parents are holding on to their last payment. It comes down to the ole mighty dollar anymore if you have ever read all the crap on the u14 blog. And if he ever reads this I hope he sits back and thinks about the non sense he is causing himself and others and it is true what people are saying so he can't cry or feel attacked. The truth is the truth and facts are facts. No one is dragging his "good" name through the mud but him. He also needs to stop talking about money issues with the kids.
3:25
Sounds like he's also not a very good business man .Like I said, my daughter trained with him when she was younger . At that time he was working for a club as their coach . He was well liked as a coach but of course wasn't handling money and running it at as a business at the time .
I hope the parents get their money back. I
When does PDA DA offers go out?
Many are out. Many more to come...
Anyone trying Cedar Stars DA? How was the turnout for session 1?
Between 75-80
So now STA is listed as the winner in their game with PDA? What the heck is going on with this tournament?
10:01 STA appealed because of a ref mistake in the initial pk's and the pk's were redone yesterday.
Blown ref call on PK's last week. Teams had to reshoot PK's last night. STA advances 4-3 result.
That sounds like bs. So PDA won, the ref made a mistake and they made them re-take the whole shootout? Sounds like NJ Cup shenanigans at it's finest. Wouldn't expect any different with the guy who runs it.
Don't refs make "mistakes" in every game?
So the ref tried to help PDA and got caught. The only surprising part is that they actually corrected things.
"So the ref tried to help PDA and got caught"
You must be a special kind of stupid.
If part of the game had to be replayed due to a referee mistake that favored PDA, that statement is true.
How did the ref supposedly try to help PDA?
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