Tuesday, February 9, 2016

U12G - U12 Girls Youth Soccer

 This is a time when players develop a true love for the game and the focus is a little more intense, on the field and on the sidelines...

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Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion Birth Year ID Event
2004 birth year
Feb 14 and Feb 21
RSVP

Anonymous said...

3:33, not true. Age is same for boys and girls and in the 2017 season which starts in August, the 2004/U13 group will be 11v11. The 2005/U12 group will be 9v9.

Anonymous said...

4:35

I got ya "homie". Regardless of where your daughter plays, your point chasing comment is just as stupid and clueless.

Anonymous said...

5 05

That is incorrect. The US soccer dap 2004 players will be playing 9v9 for 2016 to 2017 season. This issue has been discussed on other forums and on soccerwire.

Anonymous said...

link

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/dure-age-group-issue-puts-development-academy-in-a-time-warp/


sample comment

There are plenty of competitive leagues with high quality players with real potential. Those kids born in 2004 will be forced to miss a year of small sided play and development and be put at a disadvantage compared to the Academy players. It is wrong and should be remedied so as to be consistent with all competitive players and leagues.

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion Birth Year ID Event
2004 birth year
Feb 14 and Feb 21
RSVP

Anonymous said...

That is actually correct and kind of Ironic. The boys dev academy has decided to implement the new standard fall of 2017 and will play under the old rules this coming fall. So for them 2004=U12 and 9v9 for the 16/17 season.

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion Birth Year ID Event
2004 birth year
Feb 14 and Feb 21
RSVP

Anonymous said...

R E L A X Penn Fusion - We get it, you're having an ID event.

Anonymous said...

Academy players are taken care of but not girls or non academy players.

Anonymous said...

Is there truth to the rumor that FC Copa is looking to take over south jersey?

Anonymous said...

No, they will all end up at PF.

Anonymous said...

You know what they say about FC Copa. When you can't make it on any other team, you go to FC Copa.

Anonymous said...

That's mean! Shame on you.

Anonymous said...

This just in match fit is going da starting u12 girls.

Anonymous said...

Copa is opening up in Glassboro. No different than what PDA does.

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion Birth Year ID Event
2004 birth year
Feb 14 and Feb 21
RSVP

Anonymous said...

does anyone know when the Penn Fusion ID event is? I'm having trouble finding any info about this. Thanks

Anonymous said...

It would be nice if all the clubs would post their ID/open houses so everyone can get a look at birth year kids and have our kids see how well they do with them. It makes sense since teams will get torn apart soon. So if anyone else has more team info and dates please post.

Anonymous said...

From U13 board :

http://www.pdasoccer.org/pdaprograms/576154.html
PDA has winter clinics for non-PDA players.

http://www.sjeb.org/dt
http://www.sjeb.org/page/show/1223176-skills-skool
SJEB has club neutral, supplemental training.

http://www.continentalfc.org/Talent/index_E.html
http://www.continentalfc.org/Programs/IDA/index_E.html
Continental FC has Birth Year Talent ID games.

FC Philly, LVU, and many others offer supplemental training.
You just have to look for it. Do your homework.

Anonymous said...

All these are free clinics?

Anonymous said...

Doesn't look like the PDA and SJEB ones are.
FC Delco is. On Saturdays, too.

Anonymous said...

Seen a few age/gender specific events on nj.com youth soccer forums. Washington United had one; heard it was typical positions drills. Also heard SJEB will be having an open training session/birth year event (whatever you want to call them). I would think PDA would have one too

Anonymous said...

I'm going with free!

Anonymous said...

Birth year sessions should be free. I don't know why anyone would pay to go to one. They benefit the club because it is so the club has an idea before tryouts of who to look at. It's no different than a tryout. It would be crazy to pay for a tryout

Anonymous said...

You pay for a tryout so you have skin in the game, meaning you are likely to show up!

Anonymous said...

I have not come across tryouts for a club team. What clubs charge to tryout? I know mine does not and the few others we had looked at did not either

Anonymous said...

Any 03's go to PF yesterday?

Anonymous said...

At least one player from Lower Merion U12 team was there. She was the teammate of the '04 player that eventually went to PDA. I believe she will be a 'discovery' player for PF '02 team for the spring. That team has lost two players.

Couple CFC girls went.

Not much else. There was more news about PL '02 team that might be breaking up.

Anonymous said...

Are there any New Jersey team doing the Manhattan tournament?


The website is terrible and does not even list registered teams. They have last year's registered teams??!! I mean c'mon!

Anonymous said...

Any proof Copa is making a move into southern nj?

Anonymous said...

What's the big deal if Copa is coming to Southern jersey? Just another club expanding if they are

Anonymous said...

@5:43 it means another choice for those kids located in Southern New Jersey looking for an academy team

Anonymous said...

There are no "academies" on the girls side, only the boys. Even at that, only NJCSA, MatchFit and PDA have academy licenses. Just because you have the word acedemy in your club name doesn't make you an academy.

Anonymous said...

Has NJYS published anything regarding its age groups for 2016/2017 and/or whether fall state cups will be changed to calendar birth year divisions.

Anonymous said...

Think the poster just meant academy in the sense that is not a local, true not- for-profit, community soccer club.

Anonymous said...

8:01 will be very shortly. All leagues are going birth year in the fall as I understand it, and many will have a U15 league in the fall.

Anonymous said...

@ 5:54 PDA and NJSA in the same sentence, come on! NJSA has what, one girls team who can compete?

Anonymous said...

Word is PL 02's will head to PA Classics. Most anticipate PA Classics will get the DA next year.

Anonymous said...

11:06 wrong age group

Anonymous said...

@4:29

Relax and take a deep breath PDA parent, go back and re-read what I posted. I didn't compare PDA and NJSA, I merely pointed out they are two of the three clubs in NJ that actually have academy licenses and even at that, they are only academies on the boys side. Everyone knows the only reason they have the license is because of Tab Ramos' US Soccer connections but it still doesn't take away from the fact that hey have the license. Do you understand now or do you need further clarification?

Anonymous said...

07:22 - 11:06 may not be off the mark. The PL 02s are somewhat the proverbial canaries in the coal mine. What they do in response to the BYC and DA could be indicative of a trend. The PL 02s may be leading the way for their younger friends.

Anonymous said...

quiet on here. Did all the 2003 parents move to the U13 blog already?

Anonymous said...

Maybe there just isn't anything new to talk about. Tryouts are still too far away and so is the start to the spring season. We know clubs and leagues are mostly switching to birth year. It would be interesting to hear more information about the DA because that could have an impact on tryouts because with the age change people might be looking to make a move. Before the DA announcement, ecnl clubs were a safe bet to have good teams but the DA might change that.

Anonymous said...

I see the Manhattan accepted teams list is out. Looks like a weak list.

Anonymous said...

Weak? You have many of the top local teams playing like PDA Lyon, albertson, sdfc, Bergen Bulldog. For a pre-season tune up toirnament I think it looks good, who would you like to see that is not there? No one thinks Manhattan is the Jeff cup or if you do you shouldn't.

Anonymous said...

Why pay for a tournament travel spend extra money to play teams you could play anytime. Boring

Anonymous said...

Manhattan is weak across the board, but this age is good. If the weather holds up, it's a nice tournament.
720 - what's your idea of a good tournament?

Anonymous said...

Travel? For some of us it is as close or closer than regular league games and we will get to play teams that we do not normally see. The downside of the tournament is that it will probably be brutally cold if it does not get cancelled. It's a local tune up tournament. Nothing more and I don't think any of the teams playing think it is more than that. Aren't all the girls just itching to get back outside on the field? That's what it's about- an early opportunity to play soccer after a long indoor winter. If your team isn't playing you can enjoy the weekend in another way.

Anonymous said...

Manhattan tournaments team list looks great compared to the 6 teams currently registered for the maps spring challenge.

Anonymous said...

Thats a good tourney, especially with Lyon playing. ECNL festival that weekend probably sucked up some good teams that would have played there.

Anonymous said...


Amazing how much different and accurate youth soccer rankings are compared to got soccer.

1. PDA LYON
2. SDFC GALAXY YELLOW
3. VOORHEES XTREME
4. MIDDLETOWN SC SONIC DYNAMITE RED
5. NJ CRUSH FC FIRE
6. REAL NEW JERSEY SC MADRID
7. NJ WILDCATS LOPEZ
8. PDA SHORE FREEDOM
9. MORRIS UNITED SA STA
10. FC BERNA LEGACY BLACK

Everyone knows got soccer rankings are garbage. Do your due diligence if you plan on looking for a new home for your previous daughter next year. Don't be fooled by point chasers. Public service announcement.

Anonymous said...

Why would someone have a previous daughter?

Anonymous said...

Any one who picks a team from a ranking no matter who does the ranking is a fool.

Anonymous said...

My guess is 3:04 is an angry BBSC parent.

Anonymous said...

Who really cares about the rankings this are gonna change after spring. It really doesn't even matter

Anonymous said...

@ 3:04 does. Another PDA parent promoting the fact that their ranked #1 by some obscure rating system. So pathetic.

Anonymous said...

I suppose if my resume showed a sustained record of achievement and broad experience, all the other disappointed job applicants would accuse me of point chasing.

There is something to be said for developing a body of work against different teams in different situations. Something other than point chasing.

Anonymous said...

Resume, sustained record of achievement body of work, broad experience? Sorry, I just couldn't stomach it on a regular basis. PDA is clearly not for me.

Anonymous said...

Flash forward and see current similar discussion on the U16G board. Because of BYC, many of the current U12s will in a matter of a few short weeks be trying out for U14 teams and will need to seriously start thinking about their soccer resume.

Anonymous said...

hate that resume word for youth sports. Almost zero, none, nada, of these players will ever make a dime from this sport. Perhaps some scholarship dollars but those come at a quite a cost.

Anonymous said...

And I not referring to the high dollar cost of participating in the sport as a minor.

Anonymous said...

It is somewhat an issue of semantics as they will now play all the way to U18 or U19. U14 is like the new U13.

Anonymous said...

Agree with 11:24. All the U12s/U13s are in the same boat in that the 03 birth year will be U14 in the fall. You're not really playing up 2 years. Granted, those born August-December 03 will have one less year experience than January-July 03 players. But, all teams are going through this.

No matter how you split the calendar for age groups, someone will always be among the oldest kids or youngest kids. People need to relax.

Anonymous said...

Manhattan brackets are out. My money is on it being cancelled again.

Anonymous said...

new jersey cup brackets are released

Anonymous said...

SJEB East get a bye over REAL, SJEB West and Voorhees? Seems a little generous.

Anonymous said...

Where's link

Anonymous said...

11v11
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=462021&tclass=Girls%20U12%2011v11

8v8
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=462021&tclass=Girls%20U12%208v8

Anonymous said...

1:48

Yes, but they'll have to face those teams eventually so it will sort itself out.

Anonymous said...

Any early state cup predictions?

Anonymous said...

SDFC because WC can't play NJ star cup.

Anonymous said...

I heard PDA brining in guest players, watch out.

Anonymous said...

PDA Lyon will be the run away winner based on all the talk here. They will blow everyone away.

Anonymous said...

Nice try troller, trying to make PDA look bad. Probably the same person who called sdfc to win.

Anonymous said...

Vorrhees will be the easy winner, nice try PDA and sdfc. Everyone knows we are the best in state and we are a town team.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/02/23/14/48/160223-gda-us-soccer-to-launch-girls-development-academy-in-fall-of-2017

Anonymous said...

The U.S. Soccer Federation made it official on Tuesday:

It will launch the Girls Development Academy (GDA) in fall of 2017 -- a nationwide league with 60 to 80 clubs fielding teams at the U-14/15, U-16/17 and U-18/19 age groups.

Having launched a boys DA in 2007, the USSF will thus be in control of the highest level of youth soccer for both genders.

Since 2009, the U.S. Club-sanctioned ECNL laid claim to running elite soccer for American girls. The ECNL has 79 clubs nationwide that field teams at five age groups, from U-14 to U-18.

One great achievement of the boys DA, thanks in large part to fully funded MLS academies, is that it vastly increased the number of elite boys players participating at no cost or reduced cost.

So will the GDA be less expensive for players than the ECNL?

“It’s our plan that the cost will be reduced to play in the league,” said U.S. Soccer Technical Director April Heinrichs. “In general, U.S. Soccer is going to pick up a lot of the expenses in terms of running the league, so the cost will be less for the players.”

Ryan Mooney, U.S. Soccer’s Director of Sport Development, said that in premier leagues such as the ECNL and the Development Academy that require vast amounts of travel, per-player costs can range significantly from one club to the next.

“We want to make sure that we’re mindful of the cost impact that is reaching the end-user, both the player and their parents,” said Mooney. “Whether that’s through the cost we cover from an event perspective, whether it’s a reduction in registration fees, whether it’s scholarship program funding, etc. Those are all things we’ll look to contribute to the program to try to help minimize costs.

“At the same time I think it’s fair to say that there will still be a pay-to-play component, certainly from the onset, and we’ll see how that changes over time. It was no different eight years ago with the launch of the boys Academy and how that cost now has changed between then and now.”

Heinrichs said that the Federation has been discussing a Girls Development Academy for years and that a recent influx of financial commitment makes the timing right.

“For me it was quite simple,” she said. “When we looked at all these new resources post-World Cup win [in 2015] that want to invest in, be a part of and integrate with our youth national team program on the girls side – this was an easy decision. An exciting decision for us as well.

“Five years ago, we had two full-time employees in the girls youth national team program. Now we’re looking to hire potentially 10 to 15 new people to be involved and committed on a full-time, daily basis to improve the women’s game. And then there’s going to be a large budget to run the [GDA] ... and the full Dribble of U.S. Soccer’s leadership and the ability to run a national league -- we’re already running the NWSL and the Boys Development Academy.”

Anonymous said...

A key difference between the GDA and the ECNL is that while the ECNL is age pure and requires clubs to field five teams, GDA teams will field three combined age group teams.

“The use of combined age groups will require clubs to form teams with a balanced roster of players from two distinct birth years,” reads the U.S. Soccer statement.

Heinrichs calls it a way “to get players playing up more naturally.”

“If I had a list of player development initiatives that help players grow, one of the top, top, top things on that list is playing up,” she said.

In the age-pure setup, clubs may resist moving players up because it decreases their changes of winning trophies. In the DA setup, for example, a team’s star player one year will be among the younger players every two years. Fewer teams can also mean fewer roster-fillers -- players who might not be suited for the elite level but are needed to round out the squad.

Moreover, by having to field only three teams, Heinrichs believes the GDA will be more inclusive to smaller clubs.

“Let’s say there’s a super club out there and they’ve got 60 girls teams under their umbrella,” she said. “It’s quite easy for them to put a team out there in every age group. But with a smaller club that’s doing it well -- and this is where I think our model is pretty attractive -- all they have to do is put out three really good age groups.

“I have seen non-ECNL doing things really, really well but they’re not a super club. They don’t have a business model that’s so huge that they’re all about making money. But they’re doing it well from the leadership standpoint. They don’t have so many teams, but their focus would be on getting the three age groups right.

“Having birth-year every other year with the Girls Development Academy makes it more elite and more inclusive of clubs that aren’t a super club.”

The other big difference compared to the ECNL or U.S. Youth Soccer leagues is that the GDA will ban players from participating in high school ball. That, Heinrichs said, will only affect “1 percent” of the players in girls youth soccer. And she expects players with college and national team ambitions to be OK with skipping high school ball.

That it doesn't ban kids from high school ball will no doubt be a selling point from the ECNL when it starts competing for players with the GDA, which begins taking applications this May for the fall 2017 launch.

The applications will be evaluated by U.S. Soccer technical staff on:

• Leadership of the club and quality of the coaching staff;
• Desire to embrace and promote the core values of the program;
• U.S. Soccer license levels of coaching staff;
• Infrastructure of the club and the resources currently being invested in development (facilities, scholarships, staff to player ratio, etc.);
• History of player production for youth national teams, the senior women’s national teams, and professional leagues;
• Market and depth of the player pool, geographic location and travel implications, and proximity to other elite clubs.

Anonymous said...

I find this talk of the GDA on top of the birth year change to be too much all at the same time. For the vast majority of us,we have daughters who excel at soccer and who love to play, but who are never going to play at the national and international level. In other words, we are the 99% that the GDA doesn't apply to. But now in addition to the birth year change which is causing upheaval and breaking apart of established teams, we have the GDA starting the following fall. I am not looking for a DA for my daughter but I am looking for a team for her for the fall, whether at her existing club or somewhere else. I don't want to find my daughter a new team for the fall only to find that now my club has become a GDA forcing me to look for a new team again for the following year. US Soccer is creating chaos just to find a select few!

Anonymous said...

Then don't switch clubs this year. Wait a year.

I'm for all of it! High five to the federation!

Anonymous said...

It is "official." FC Copa and Rowan.
https://twitter.com/RowanMSoccer/status/701465915863470086

Anonymous said...

I don't get all the extreme angst over this DA. Is only for a few players. Lots of talent and money and it could be a good place. I think it will exclude some good players that have the money but are not really elite players and it sounds like it will continue to exclude elite players without good incomes but other that that, will not affect most players.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, ECNL will be fine. The money train will keep on chugging along.

Anonymous said...

With the announcement of the GDA the ecnl will become nothing more than average in the coming years here is why

The U.S. national teams from 14 up will look to the GDA clubs for players. They will have been on the U.S. soccer pathway with testing and curriculum and this is an easy way to draw all the top talent out of EcnL and into the academy.

Most of our top players who are serious about being proffesionals don't want to be on a team where half the players are playing high school and not showing up to train. These top players are serious and training 4 times a week with no interruption is perfect for this type of player.

It is simply impossible for the ecnl to try and fight the soccer governing body in this country.

Anonymous said...

People saying the ecnl will be fine are backing an injured horse. Only a matter of time before it's put down

Anonymous said...

As long as they have customers, they are in business.

Anonymous said...

Dear Donna,

The incident that took place in the office this morning has left me feeling very uncomfortable. I found the way you spoke to me in front of the office staff, my fellow teachers, and students to by rude, demeaning, and unprofessional. If you have a personal issue with me I would be happy to discuss it with you in private. Otherwise, I will not tolerate be spoken to in that manor in the future.

Sincerely,
Yamilette


For all the people predicting the demise of ECNL and other top leagues, think about the numbers for GDA. For argument's sake, let's assume the following:

-3 NJ clubs selected for DA status for Fall '16
(1 north, 1 central, 1 south)

-26 max player roster for each age level
(U13/U14, U15/U16, U17/U18)

-U13/U14 team divided down the middle
(13 '04s and 13 '03s)

This means 39 total '03 players and 39 total '04 players in the entire state of NJ will have the opportunity to play GDA. Now do you really think those other clubs are going away?

Anonymous said...

We know that clubs won't disapear and for the most part clubs will stay the same. The arguement is ecnl will 100 percent become 2nd best to the GDA

Anonymous said...

the question is whether you can be DA and ECNL or will clubs have to choose. It would seem you can't be both, so would a club like PDA choose DA over ECNL? If PDA does, so will the other top ECNL clubs. Then what happens to the ECNL? To me, it is less impressive and then people may not be willing to put in the time (driving from so far away, the travel expenses, big rosters and no playing time and so on) which will lead to a weakening of ECNL

Anonymous said...

Why would clubs need to choose? They run multiple programs in different leagues for the boys. Why would girls be any different?

Anonymous said...

Looks light weather might be descent next weekend.
Might actually get to play the Manhattan tourney!

Anonymous said...

6:05 - Because people are like Chicken Little and panic and claim the sky is falling. Some people just like to complain whether they have any facts or not.

Anonymous said...

Who is winning Jeff cup top brackets 8v8 and 11v11

Anonymous said...

PDA will win 11v11
BRYC will most likely win 8v8
SDFC will destroy the second bracket

Anonymous said...

And Real NJ should take 3rd bracket

Anonymous said...

Looks like this is the moment for PDA Lyon to shine playing against U12 top teams.

Anonymous said...

Of course they got the easier bracket.

Anonymous said...

"Of course they got the easier bracket."

Hard to say that PDA Lyon got the easier bracket in Jeff Cup since they open with last year's U11 8 v8 Jeff Cup champion of the top bracket last year…Charlotte beat WC is the final and WC has been a thorn in Lyon's side...

Anonymous said...

Spring hasn't even started but the PDA talk has. Some things never change.

Anonymous said...

Question for PDA parents. How is the 2004 birth year team going to be? I know 2003 will be strong.

Anonymous said...

Of course PDA 2004 will be strong.

The U11 Strikers have a half dozen elite U11 2004's. Zizzou has like 12 2004's who are all very good players just a younger team then Lyon. Lyon has 7 or 8 very good 2004 players. The U11 Sounders have a few players too. At PDA North there are about 32 very solid 2004 players. I'd guess out of that group you can find a solid core of 14-15 kids and they will probably add about 3-4 from the outside on the A team. Same for the B team...

Anonymous said...

I heard SDFC scrimmaging at PDA today. State cup final preview?

Anonymous said...

CFC Birth Year games were good.

40+ players from Europa, Ukranians, West Mont, Lower Merion, Nether, FC Bucks, Rage, FC Revolution, LVU, and Penn Fusion were there. Probably as many out of club girls as club. As their training sites are closest for us, it's probably where we will go.

FC Europa dad

Anonymous said...

"I heard SDFC scrimmaging at PDA today. State cup final preview?"

It was PDA Lyon but then were scrimmaging vs. U13 SDFC Rage(one of the best U13's in the state and region for 3 years). Coach A for SDFC will play anyone anytime...

Anonymous said...

Well, who won the scrimmage?

Anonymous said...

Why is the trainer for Real leaving to go to SJEB?

Anonymous said...

More money more team to coach. Not like Medford real was a top club. They had one good team the team he coached that was about it.

Anonymous said...

I guess PDA Lyon lost.

Anonymous said...

U13 SDFC Rage 2-1.

Anonymous said...

Which PDA team is going to the ECNL Festival next weekend. I assume it's not Lyon?

Anonymous said...

Lyon is listed in Manhattan tourney...

Anonymous said...

Barcelona is in the Maps Spring challenge

Anonymous said...

If sdfc is so good, why can't they win any of the big tournamanets like stars and PDA? They are a pint chasing team. Oh, but they did win pocono, so they must be very good.

Anonymous said...

Lyon and SDFC are on the same side of the bracket, can't meet in the finals, only the semifinals.

Anonymous said...

How could PDA/SDFC be a "State Cup final preview"? They are in the same side of the bracket, they could meet in the semifinals but it would end there for one of them. Do your homework before posting.

Anonymous said...

8:09 - Nobody cares. They'll be relevant next year when all the Voorhees and Real kids come over.

Anonymous said...

@ 8:27 where are the voorhees and real players 'coming over' to?

Anonymous said...

10:10 There's not too many options so it isn't hard to figure out. If I were on a PDA South or Barons team and my daughter was in the bottom half of the team, I'd be concerned right now.

Anonymous said...

There isn't anything to be concerned about.
The clubs will always build another team if the numbers are there.
A bunch of these girls are still yet to drop about. When high school rolls around, those that stuck with training and kept on grinding, will have a team to play with.
Make sure your daughter enjoys the team and club she is playing with and gets along with her mates. Not every player is a superstar.
Copa expansion in the south may see a much larger crowd than expected.
All the big players in the north will enjoy large crowds at the tryouts.

Anonymous said...

@11:24 I ask this question looking for information, not to get sarcastic replies. Who are the "big players" up north? We will be looking for my daughter and would like to find a very competitive club in the northern part of the state. I know PDA, but don't even think of them as "north". Who else?

Anonymous said...

Just Checked out Copa's ID event evaluation registration. Is all that information necessary? dominate foot, height, weight, why do you want to play for Copa and etc etc!? Do other clubs require that information?

Anonymous said...

"relevant" - lol

relevant: pertinent, applicable, apposite, material, apropos, to the point, germane; connected, related, linked; on-topic

Anonymous said...

NJ Stallions are in the northern part of the state. Also, Morris united STA and SDFC.

Anonymous said...

And crush

Anonymous said...

Real players going to the barons as there coach/trainer is now in the barons. Voorhees who know I heard they are trying to mesh with PDA south.

Anonymous said...

Heard from who. Stop talking crap. You have no idea what's going on. Just worry about your kid.

Anonymous said...

there is a Real coach listed on the Baron's tryouts page. It is reasonable to assume some of his players would follow him. I wouldn't consider that "talking crap"

Anonymous said...

I think that was more in reply to the part about them "hearing" about Voorhees kids going to PDA.

Either way, the Real coach is probably not going to coach the 03 and 04 teams at SJEB so it stands to reason that "all" the Real kids aren't going to the Barons, some will probably go to PDA and some won't make either team.

If the Voorhees team has a lot of kids go to PDA, then that 04 team will be strong. What will the Voorhees manager do then with no team to manage?

Whatever happens, it stands to reason that the SJEB and PDA teams at the 03 and 04 ages will have very strong teams. Should be a very interesting fall.

Anonymous said...

The Barons website shows they have 3 new coach's they are bringing on. interesting.

Anonymous said...

Odd that Rowan women's soccer coaches are at the Barons despite the Copa / Rowan connection.

Anonymous said...

I've heard the Barons are using the Rowan facilities as well for training.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know of any clubs keeping teams together instead of going to birth year?

Anonymous said...

Considered by one of mine's team but it leads to a less competitive team in the new set up so it can be a difficult sell for some. Rearranging teams is a difficult sell for others. No way for all to be happy with this change.

The kids will be fine, this refers to the parents.

Anonymous said...

PF has already offered most of its slots for next year. The fantastic striker PF>>PDA was one example. That early was in the fall.

Anonymous said...

8:40pm
PF is offering spots already? Why would they choose to do that without knowing who will come to tryouts in the spring?? Isn't that jumping the gun a little prematurely?? It will be interesting to see what those teams are like come fall.

Anonymous said...

Put yourself in the club's shoes.

You have to offer a spot to a player that you perceive to be good enough. If you can get them to accept than you are ahead of the curve. That is one less player that will go to a different tryout and be offered a spot immediately.

The clubs always have room for special players that show up at any time in the year.

Anonymous said...

Clubs will also accept teammates just to get the better teammate. The following season, the weaker teammate is gone, but the stronger teammate most likely stays. Generally called the PF Special.

Anonymous said...

I think these kids are too young to be "Offered spots before tryouts." I think it creates a lot of unhealthy problems with the current team. I understand that this is the "big-leagues"... but not every high level club out there is acting that way.

You may want to read this before deciding which team to go to:
http://www.switchingthefield.com/7-ways-to-spot-a-con-artist-coach.html#.VtdSS9dHHxA.facebook

Anonymous said...

Don’t know. Seems like they’d rather get decent players, that they know very well, locked in, rather than risking trying to identify the best based on the short look of try-out.

They don’t have a great track record of selecting quality from try-outs. Many of their previous ECNL mistakes are asked to move down to NPL in the middle of the season, and instead quit soccer all together.

Anonymous said...

A PF coach did the "promise an 11 year old would get a college scholarship".

Anonymous said...

As a coach, you should have a list of which outside players you want to offer spots too, but specifically offering a position before tryouts does not sound very ethical. Its the hard-sell, used car salesmen method.

Some people will call it being a good business person... other people will call it shady. Most people that have been involved in athletics for a long time think its shady.

Anonymous said...

Only position a coach can truly offer before tryouts is to the KEEPER! Everything else has to be evaluated.

Anonymous said...

Why shouldn't GKs compete for positions?

Anonymous said...

Its rare for a keeper to play multiple positions. The strong GK's in the state play 95% in goal and only if the goal margin is wide will they be allowed to stretch their legs.

Anonymous said...

Stated another way, why shouldn't 2, 3 or more GKs compete against each other for the GK position? Our experience has been that is what happens, and we have seen GKs displaced from teams when better ones come along at tryouts. It is short-sighted to select the GK without evaluating that GK against others. Contrary to popular opinion, there are a number of good GKs out there, many just do not have a high profile. A few came out of the shadows at the goalie wars held at Sports Zone and Soccer Centers in December.

Anonymous said...

8:54 You just linked to the PF handbook!

Anonymous said...

Why all the PENN FUSION hate????????
http://www.pennfusion.org/BIRTHYEAR/index_E.html

Anonymous said...

Seems like the tryouts have already begun- birth year ID sessions, players coming to practices, secret meetings- call it what you like. Will there even be a need for tryouts In April or are teams giving out offers for next year now? What about existing players? Do they already have offers for next year? My daughters club hasn't given out offers to existing players and won't until the end of the season but I think outside offers are being discussed. It is frustrating trying to figure out whether to stay or go. Look at other options now or wait to see how things unfold? At the end, we want a good team for our daughter to play on and we worry she will be left with nowhere. For info purposes, daughter is on a team where the vast majority of girls are not her birth year and there is no team of her age to merge with so club will need to field a new team for her to stay.

Anonymous said...

Best clubs in North, not in order. WC, MFA, STA, NJ Crush, Stallions, Bulldogs, SDFC, TSF. All good clubs.

Anonymous said...

Please define best

Anonymous said...

@4:51 what area are u in

Anonymous said...

@10:30 bergen and mfa come on homey what are you smoking.

Anonymous said...

@ 2:47

These are valid concerns that we as parents have. We'd like to know the nitty gritty not the glossy brochure version before we commit to a year or even two try-outs.

If there's another side, and there always is offer that information.

But decrying attempts at transparency as hating doesn't get you anywhere.

And doing same while posting a link if clicked on that could unmask people doesn't either.

Anonymous said...

MFA has put more kids into D1 programs over the last 10 years than all the rest combined. You can certainly scoff at that and think U12 results are what matters, but that's funny homey. I guess ignorance is bliss.

Anonymous said...

10:12 - Please back up your statement with facts. The FACT is, PDA is by far the best program in the state, if not the whole country. In 5-10 years they will be established in all the biggest areas in the country.

Anonymous said...

PDA isn't included in the list above, I should have referenced that list. I agree, PDA is a special club and unmatched in this area when it comes to the talent they produce on the girls side.

Anonymous said...

No one "produces" talent. It is in born and can not be acquired, bought, or "produced". It can be developed in a player that has it.

Anonymous said...

TSF is not a club that is concerned about developing good girls teams. Their over-priced and you don't get what you pay for.

Anonymous said...

NJ.com has a list on who signed letters of intent to play soccer in college. Roughly 80 girls signed so far. Thats impressive for such a small state. Looking at the list only 8-10 of the schools are actually D-1. Still impressive. Keep it up NJ. When this age group becomes eligible, i.e.: 03/04 with such a strong amount of girls and consider only about 25-35% will still be playing, they will be a great recruiting class. Keep it up!

Anonymous said...

PDA and MFA have a combined 35 D1 commits on current their U18 teams. Last year they had close to 50 and next year they will be around that number.

Anonymous said...

SDFC and Marlboro tied 0-0

Anonymous said...

You must be from Marlboro. Was it a good game?

Anonymous said...

Marlboro just stacks the box with 10 kids entire game. Not a sdfc parent just a parent that has played them.

Anonymous said...

SDFC is the much better team. They do throw in some clunkers now and then as most 11/12 year olds do.

Anonymous said...

March 4th 2:45

That's a 100% false statement and you know it.

Anonymous said...

"SDFC is the much better team. They do throw in some clunkers now and then as most 11/12 year olds do."

SDFC seems to have added a PDA "Striker"! but she did not affect the team's offense vs Marlboro...

Anonymous said...

In 2015 the following seniors committed to college while playing for PDA:

PDA Shock NPL had 8 D1 and 8 DIII
PDA Force NPL had 10 D1 and 10 DIII
PDA ECNL Clash 14 DI

So PDA had 32 D1 and 18 DIII girl commitments. This about an average year at PDA.

Anonymous said...

SDCF is advanced for this age in tactics, but not very athletic or high soccer IQ as individual players. Other teams are quickly catch up on tactics, even within the same game. So there will be no more advantage soon -- that's the inconsistent "clunkers".

The parents' posturing when losing or tying is comical. They come over and stand on the opponents side lines and loudly feign this shock like its so unexpected and out of character.

Anonymous said...

i think sdfc parents may be worst than Lyons when it comes to talk. If they have the old PDA striker dad, good luck.

Anonymous said...

Someone will be making excuses very soon. Who won?

Anonymous said...

PDA Lyon 5-1 over SDFC Yellow. It was 2-0 in the first 10 minutes and was never even close. SDFC parents were friendly before and after. Their team is great I'm sure but just not on this day vs. PDA Lyon.

Anonymous said...

Holy moly! Pda Lyon beat the #1 ranked team in NJ! SDFC didn't stand a chance. I wonder how they are ranked #1?

Anonymous said...

Well the U13 SDFC parents can laugh a bit now at the U12 crew thinking they are best thing ever. They actually say stuff like - let's Z just scrimmage U13 - we can beat them - not. We beat Lyon a week befit U guys got whupped. Be humble. Rage has never had a game like you did today - ever.

Anonymous said...

What about Jeff cup last year? I believe you had two beat downs, both were 5 to 0. Maybe the reason for being in second bracket this year.
Didn't do to well at PDA and stars tournamanet as well. Maybe 2015 wasn't your year.

Anonymous said...

They are in the 3rd bracket this year. You guys should try and get along, a lot of you may be playing together next year with birth year change. What coach will be taking over the 03 age group at sdfc, Rich B is a great coach. How many of the rage girls are solid 03 players?

Anonymous said...

So a U-13 team is bragging about beating a U-12 team......stay classy ashat

Anonymous said...

I don't think he was bragging. Sounded like he was telling the u12 parents to chill out. I agree that the u12 sdfc parents talk way to much.

Anonymous said...

"What about Jeff cup last year? I believe you had two beat downs, both were 5 to 0. Maybe the reason for being in second bracket this year."

What I meant was Rage has never had a big game moment like a tournament final where most of New jersey is paying attention and you you just roll over. I have heard maybe PDA was just bigger, stronger, faster, better at soccer or whatever but was actually hoping for a club win but just stay humble is all I mean. Lots of chatter from U12 families to some of your future teammates families at U13...

Anonymous said...

SDFC U12 will stop talking when the PDA Striker dad gets kicked off the team. Any day now. Any day now.

Anonymous said...

I will say that if you watched the game today you can't argue that there is a huge difference in size and speed. The game was played on a very small pitch which you would think would help a smaller team. SDFC is a very talented team with good ball movement. Just don't have a finisher. They are a long way away talent wise across the board. Not being cocky it's just a fact. With that being said they have what seems to be a bunch of good kids that work hard. At the end of the day that's all you can ask for.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to say SPEED OF PLAY was the biggest factor, not so much speed.

When SDFC would make their normal passes a defender was there to shield,to steal or just disrupt. On the other side passes from PDA were fast - real fat ball movement - along with some kick and run because of the speed part.

Headers, PDA defended with headers, all the defenders had 4 or 5 headers each we do not generally do that. they actually started like fast breaks off defended headers.

The goalie = whatever - she played like she was 17 years old. 50,60 plus yard fast break punts - high school varsity girls don't punt like that. Make the save, sprint to end of box drip kick it 50 and we're all up and its gone over our heads - her speed of play was another level.

When PDA made their passes we did not get our normal steals, mostly because of a team-wide shielding they used to receive passes.

Just overall they were a bit bigger a bit faster but what they did with the ball to make it move fast is what impressed me most. Speed of play

Anonymous said...

8:16, what is false about it? You sound like you know something so enlighten me?

Anonymous said...

Okay thanks PDA parent. I will agree that your goalie is more than half your team plus her high school friend up top. Without those two, below average team and not many will start as 2003 A team.

Anonymous said...

Come on. Now you sound like an idiot.

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Anonymous said...

Rage > Yellow

Anonymous said...

Wow how did SDFC get stuck with the strikers
Dad good luck with that!!

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Anonymous said...

PDA lyon keeper is an exceptional player. Best 03' keeper in the state if not east coast. NJ has three keepers at 02,03,04 that all train at US National and all are far ahead of anyone in their respective age group. Going to be fun to follow the three in High School in a few years. Also, quick shout out to SDFC. Played them a few times and I think their parents are just like other teams. They have a lot invested in that team, like we all do with our own daughters. When you have a lot invested it gets emotional.... Keep it up SDFC!

Anonymous said...

@9:08AM- Wow, someone at PDA got a shout out! Who are the other keepers, what clubs?

Anonymous said...

Say goodbye. Going to the girl's DA!

Anonymous said...

The 03 keeper is from PDA also.

What club is the 04 keeper from?

Anonymous said...

9:08 - So you have knowledge about all of the '03 GKs currently playing at the U12 or U13 level on the east coast? If so, where do you get such knowledge?

Anonymous said...

PDA has announced the coaches for the BYC next year. Looks like the current u13 guy is taking over the 2003 age group. this is a good time to make change, he will take a fresh look at all new players at tryouts. The goalie is a shoe-in and I'm sure he has a bunch of his current girls staying, but would see lost of new players. Have other clubs made the coaching change announcements? SDFC, WC and PDA will be the go to clubs for next year in both 2004 and 2003. I heard PDA will stay firm on age appropriate play going into BYC. I think other clubs will be a little more flexible in first year with DA around the corner.

Anonymous said...

Honest qustion? How will sdfc look at 2003 next year. With two strong teams at both age groups, how many strong kids are 2003?
Doesn't sound like the parents get along, but that will all change over time. And do you know who will be the coach? WC will have a strong group, the u13 team is weak, but they have a lot of 2003 girls and most of the u12 team is 2003 too. This will be a strong team, don't know who is coaching yet.

Anonymous said...

From PDA's website: There will inevitably be exceptions to the following club decisions but they will be made with the best interests of our players in mind. Exceptions may be made based on team make up, age and development opportunities. Any decisions on player movement will be evaluated and approved by club staff and Director of coaching.

Anonymous said...

There is an 03 keeper down in South Carolina just outside Hilton Head. She is already 5"11, can punt the ball 60 yards, and covers the net post to post like a hockey goalie... she is already being recruited to Alabama to be their punter and Nick Saban said she could also play home soccer matches.

That is how stupid you sound 9:08.

Anonymous said...

4:12 - that is player development over team success... kudos to them

Anonymous said...

PDA like most clubs, keeping it OPEN for the exceptional player to play up - in writing - just in case,,,,,

but will follow strict birth year guidelines when forming teams.

I have heard of ONE team, HBC U16 from Long Island - that is stating they will "stay together:, but even there I will believe it when I see it

(Folks wondering about current U15 Princeton girls as well)

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