Friday, February 19, 2016

Academy Soccer

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89 comments:

Anonymous said...

How does someone get selected for the IMG Academy 150 player pool. Do you attend IMG or do you get scouted while playing club?

Any explanation on this would be appreciated.

Anonymous said...

It's political! National pool players are selected and we know they can't get those players right but no argument that they should be in the top 150. Then after that its who you know. Each age has errors in the selection. It's supposed to be that players are selected from coaches other than yours.

Anonymous said...

wow...that is discouraging.

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that Antonio Meza has been relieved of his duties as DOC/DOT over at NJCSA. Guess the almighty one could not even save himself let alone the organization. ;-)

Anonymous said...

Good Riddance

Anonymous said...

and Red Bulls got rid of Bob Montgomery er, well, they "reassigned' him -
http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/new-york-red-bulls-announce-restructuring-of-youth-development-system/

Good riddance there too

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the academy evaluations have anything to do with the firings...

Anonymous said...

NJCSA needs to continue to clean house. Got rid of Meza. Next to go is their other Academy coach. PDA dominated both 16s and 18s yesterday- now coached by the same guy. NJCSA parents at the game tell me if you aren't one of his favorite 3 or 4 players, he completely destroys the kids' confidence - so much for this level being about development. Apparently not for this guy. I could certainly say that two 2nd half goals in the 16s game were a direct result of defensive substitutions he made. They have some good players but won't go far with this coach.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA 18's lost cause but 16's are in the playoffs
PDA 18s long tradition of excellence, 16's struggling other than win yesterday- do you say they should fire PDA's 16's coach too?

MLS academies continue to draw top talent - how long till they split DA into MLS/non MLS divisions?

Anonymous said...

NJSA's coaches have always favored Latino players. I hope the new owner and US Soccer realize that there is no room for racial bias in the DA.

Anonymous said...

Why was Mesa terminated at njcsa? Where is he now?

Anonymous said...

Players with talent, and who could, left the club in droves. At least the club held him accountable for the failures during his time there.

Anonymous said...

or the club used him as a scapegoat for its own failures - It lost a vibrant girls program, took forever to secure fields and wasn't able to sustain its own tournament. No coach is perfect. Mesa wasn't. But where is the accountability for the board and administration?

Anonymous said...

I think it is going to be known as Cedar Stars Monmouth starting this fall. Totally being run by Altirs. Is that correct?

Anonymous said...

Why is Cedar Stars academy split between North and South Jersey? Will they be one academy or remain separate? There's a cedar stars Newark division also. Confusing.

Anonymous said...

The multi locations fit a larger club ambition. If you look at the PDA model, (which works so I am not bashing) you need many, many younger teams to financially support a free academy- and to pull talented players from. One of the reasons NJSA/NJCSA now Cedar Stars Academy had struggled to obtain consistently high numbers of quality players was tuition. The pay-to-play dynamic forces management(coaches etc) to keep players others might have let go - AND - to lose players to free academies. Altiers influence does seem to be taking over and seems like a positive step.

Altiers helped with the facility issue also. By having North/South and Newark the pool of players and the financial support for the academy side gets better and better. The Newark team consists of mostly St. Benedicts' high school players - resolving how they can play high school AND academy would be interesting (like Shattuck Saint Mary and IMG academy who have true residential programs thru high school). In the meantime,better facilities coupled with sound finances suggests that Altiers is moving the Cedar Stars in the right direction (large pool of players with good facilities and removing pay to play seem like laudible goals) If achieved, NJ would have 3 academies providing free programming. Hope it works.

Anonymous said...

What will be Tab's involvement going forward?

Anonymous said...

hope he sticks with it but in reality TR is too busy with MNT and probably looking for a MLS/college team to coach - as recently as Nov. 2015 he was in running for top job with MLS Chicago Fire - http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/11/05/report-us-u-20-national-team-boss-tab-ramos-top-candidate-chicago-fire-coaching-job
so probably doing 'face' for Altiers' club but little real involvement

Anonymous said...

Did not know NJCSA board trolls this site and posts self serving aggrandizements.......who would've known.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad the NJCSA acknowledges public issues and wants to make improvements. Good Luck!

Anonymous said...

US Men's soccer team didn't qualify for the Olympics again. US wonder boy Matt Miazga was given a red card.

Anonymous said...

turns out its not just we on this blog who think that something's wrong with the DA (and USSF) approach that 'feeds' players to US national teams which can't compete. the article below argues improvements in scouting, funding and facilities are needed so maybe the thoughts above about Altirs are not "aggrandizement" but a recognition of long term problems.

http://www.howlermagazine.com/whats-wrong-america-spring-2016/

Although the article defends Jurgen in general, I'd love to hear how Pulisic gets a senior team cap on the same night when the u23s really needed him. Are we so worried about him getting"cap-tied" that we sacrifice the olympic cycle? Without large clubs providing free training, the DA will never 'produce' players - rather it will get lucky once in a while with players like Pulisic and otherwise our national teams will be filled with players that grew up overseas and received better training there.

Anonymous said...

What is the rule on Academy and HS soccer? How come some play academy and HS and others are not allowed? What is the loophole that allows it?

Anonymous said...

I believe that vouchers are given to academy players to play in high school if the player is attending a private high school and is receiving any scholarship money from the school towards playing soccer.

Anonymous said...

So you can play both. Why dont people do it, meaning all.

Anonymous said...

12:26

Like he said, you have to be playing for a private high school and receiving scholarship from that school. If you are attending public schools, you are not allowed.

Anonymous said...

Anyone playing for a private school can easily say they are receiving a scholarship. Hello, Mr. Athletic Director, I play for Red Bulls now but if you still want me for your HS team just give me some simple assistance and I can. Can not be that easy.

Anonymous said...

Try this - In the Spring/Summer during tryouts, do not sign any card or paperwork from the Academy you want to have your kid play for in the following season - currently the 2016/2017 upcoming season.
Play the High School year
Come back to the Academy after HS season ends (late October-mid November depending on run in State tournament)
Get carded as a DP (developmental player) thru the end of the Fall Academy season. Move over to FT status in the Spring

Or you can get a full waiver from the club and academy - I think there were only 5 given in the whole country.

Anonymous said...

I think waivers are an academy's dirty little secret. They don't want player's playing HS soccer.

Anonymous said...

No they don't want kids playing high school- they want to control coaching and training but riddle me this - Isn't the college game closer to high level high school than academy? Physical and quick? Technical? or is it a combination of both? USSF wants to take the top 1% from the academy to play for the USMNT (and good for those players). The real dirty secret is the sacrifice made by the 99% to support that 1%. Time spent at 3/4 nights a week practice plus weekend games plus 5/6 day 'showcases' in distant states for 11 months a year for the shot at a D1 program and the even more distant scholarship. Not sure the cost/benefit makes sense - especially when you see 1-2 recruiting spots at most high level college programs taken by kids from overseas who never heard of the DA.

If I had to do again, would have my guy play High School and figure out if spring academy season could still be done

Anonymous said...

4.4.16 9:50 hit the nail on the head. That is the simple reality and parents need to put their ego/vacarious glory in check and stop sacrificing the well being of their child. One other thing, that "scholarship" will be a 1/4, 1/3 or if a superstar 1/2 of the full monty.

Anonymous said...

Fine, having a kid in an Academy is akin to slave labor and child abuse.

The ECNL is planning on starting a boys side similar to their "top level" girls league. You'll probably get to play in high school as well. It will be "pay for play" so if you have the $$$, there will be other options.

Anonymous said...

Money grab by ECNL. They're going to lose a lot of girls to academy once a girls academy starts. They have to make up for the loss of dollars.

Anonymous said...

No need for it but it will work for a couple of years anyway.

Anonymous said...

As a parent who has been with NJSA04- thru NJCSA- Now transitioning to Cedar Stars - Monmouth- it has been challenging. Playing on bad fields, lack of communication, and other issues led to many very talented players leaving the system. With the news released yesterday- New World Class Facilities- 6 fields, futsal courts, Ferdinando De Matthaeis now at the top of the coaching pyramid, new youth academy director announced. This will be the beginning of a massive operation and Altirs deserves a ton of credit. He is fortunate to have a ton of money, and he is investing it in youth soccer. His track record of helping indigent families is much revered.
The bottom line is C NJ now will have the best facilities, the best coaches, and will be able to recruit the most elite players in C NJ. Why drive all the way to Zarepeth? Very exciting days- the town programs that are still busy playing daddy ball, chasing points for rankings, underdeveloping their talent now need to wake up and realize they are not academies - align yourself for the future- development and fun should be the start.
Thank you Altirs and Tab for finally bringing C NJ out of the dark ages

Anonymous said...

Let's see what really happens...

Anonymous said...

I hear you, I am optimistic though. Hope you have a great experience wherever your kids may be- all the best

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Anonymous said...

Does anybody know of any rumors coming out of Philly Union Academy?

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars- Monmouth had over 300 kids at tryouts on Thursday night- if you build it they will come. Word is U16 and U18 academy teams will be on scholarship to rival MLS academies and eventually U14's too.
Very exciting days ahead for Monmouth County and true develpmental model for youth soccer.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how many of the new Academy teams they will have at Cedar Stars-Monmouth? 2004s,2003,2002s, etc?

Or will some of those teams be solely based up in Bergen?

Anonymous said...

both Monmouth and Bergen have 2004's, 2003's, and 2002's this year. U12, U13, and U14 respectively.

Bergen is only approved thru USSF for up to U14. Monmouth is the domicile up to U16 and U18

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Anonymous said...

NJCSA U16s are still undefeated against MLS academy teams. They just tied Red Bulls 2-2 yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Still not in playoffs

Anonymous said...

close

Anonymous said...

U 14's also tied Red Bulls on Saturday.

Anonymous said...

That is not bad for NJCSA U16 team. They are actually not a bad team.

Anonymous said...

I agree the NJCSA could possibly be a good team but the style they play no one really knows. They park the bus with the entire team behind the ball and play for transition goals. Evident with the US Soccer leading 10 ties. These players aren't being taught the proper way of playing by the NJCSA coaching staff. They have an assistant coach with his only job of yelling when to step for an offside's trap. Yes, at this age and at the academy level they have an assistant coach yelling 'step'. Mathematically they have no chance of making the playoffs. A shame that the only Monmouth County academy shows such a poor style of soccer to play. You think they have some talent to let the team challenge competition. The whole club is very confusing.

Anonymous said...

The US System talks about putting Player Development first but what they are doing is prioritizing winning. I'm sure Christian P. is learning more in Germany than he ever did here.

Anonymous said...

I don't think all US academies prioritize winning like the NJCSA academy. But a few bad apples like this spoils the bunch.

Anonymous said...

"but the style they play no one really knows. They park the bus with the entire team behind the ball and play for transition goals."

Sounds like every team that plays against Barcelona. Maybe not pleasing to the eye, but a counter-attacking style has been around longer than all of us. It is not giving up, it is playing to your strengths (or away from your weaknesses).

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone compare youth teams to professional teams? Youth players are meant to be developing as complete players. Parking the bus is not teaching them anything.

Anonymous said...

The comparison was made to point out that what you mentioned is indeed a style of play.

I agree it is not the style you want your kid to play day in and day out, but not teaching them anything? How about team defending, keeping your shape, counter attacking?

I am sure they do not park the bus in practice.

Anonymous said...

I agree the comparison to Barcelona is ridiculous. The consistent style of play of parking the bus shows that they do practice it (not to mention the country leading 10 draws.) What about the coach screaming 'step' like its a u11 MOSA team. Obviously NO development happening here. Parents have to stop selling themselves on this program and just leave.

Anonymous said...

No one said parking the bus isn't a style of play. What was said was parking the bus is a poor style of play. To say they aren't a bad team is impossible to determine when it becomes a track meet and not soccer.

To be clear, NJCSA is not a good team. You can make an argument to the contrary but you can't prove your side of the argument when they constantly play that style of soccer.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the players just are not as good?

Anonymous said...

We'll never know when their only allowed to play that way. Forget being a creative player if you want to stay in the game. The coach is not showing that he has any confidence in his players,

Anonymous said...

They were allowed to play popper soccer twice in the fall season. Lost 5-1 to Richmond United and 4-0 against FC Continental.

Anonymous said...

^^^proper

Anonymous said...

it's funny who gets to define what is "proper" soccer. Do you have to be completely possesion driven- tiki taka? That has not been US soccer, ever. NJCSA has been a microcom of US soccer for years. Have had great players start out at the club - ie - Juan Agudelo, Sean Davis, Dan Metzger- but they moved on to Red Bull like any other kid would when MLS asks you. Never had the facilities or the best 11 on the field.

Let's revisit this in 2-3 years when the kids who are 2003's and 2002's ( which my son is one of) have some time- CSA will get the horses to come- quite evident by this years tryouts. We will see what type of soccer is being developed. I believe it will be very good, very fast, athletic, improved technical but never Pep soccer.

Can you name 3 PDA kids like above who are on pro rosters? This Academy in Monmouth County will be real strong in the years to come- the towns that surround the new complex are flush with talent that are not being developed- looking forward to seeing it all unfold with my son in the mix.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the last comment, but I need to add that they are at a vital time in their turn-around of the train wreck that was NJSA04. They need to bring in the quality coaches, now, for all the teams in the program. Coaching at the youth/club level is vital to produce the pipeline needed for a successful Academy program. People caught on real fast that the way to the NJSA04 Academy was NOT through the younger NJSA04 teams. They had few quality coaches that could teach a possession oriented approach to the game. Then the good kids stopped trying out and you see what happened.

We will see what the new crop of coaches can do with the large turnout they had at try outs. If they can develop this new talent then I think they are on their way. If not, then they blew this opportunity and will be right back in the trash heap as before.

Anonymous said...

You can't compare NJS04/CSA Monmouth to PDA at this point. You can not even compare it to Match Fit who left academy a year ago, if they were still around you would still be behind them in coaches, recruiting, talent and etc... NJCSA/CSA still has a few years to go before they can try to compare themselves with these teams. Until they hire a new staff and stop playing players based on politics, they are still going to continue to lose players and games. And if you think CSA Bergen which will run CSA Monmouth starting this fall is any better, they are not. They run things in CSA Bergen the same way CSA Monmouth/NJS04 does. The only things they have going for them is the CSA name and George's money. Go check how many players from CSA Bergen U14/U13 left to go somewhere before the season started.

You can bring in Money and new bosses, but if the mentality is the same, things will not change!!!

Anonymous said...

"Coaches" at NJCSA. With the exception of TR they have 0 accomplishments. Just look at their CV's. They are cast aways from local programs, fathers and or someone with an accent masquerading as something "more". They are not. The club got rid of Meza and his anti-American pro-latin bias as well as his lackey sycophants, only to replace the lot with more posers and frauds. That club has a long long way to go.

Anonymous said...

Change starts at the top and getting a new DOC is a step in the right direction. The DOC is training all the coaches in the club so he needs to be unbiased, fair, an expert in his field, and honest with players and parents. Cedar Stars is making the effort to offer a quality academy but it won't happen overnight.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have an opinion on STA. Are they a true Academy? Never heard of STA before. Anyone now a days can call themselves an Academy and charge Academy fees.

Anonymous said...

U17/U18- Ferdinando De Matthaeis - , played in Italy, played for the NY Cosmos w/ Giorgio Chinaglia, IMG, A license

U15/U16- Wayne Galloway- A license, played in the UK

U13/14- Jerrod Laventure, A or B license, Seton Hall, Red Bulls, Haiti National team

U9--U12- Paul Nash- Rangers FC, Scotland

Just wanted to update you on where the coaches currently stand. NJSA 04 was not good but this is a step in the right direction

Anonymous said...

STA is club not academy. Only NJ academies are Red Bulls, PDA, NJCSA(Cedar stars). I think it's a good club though with good staff, facilities.

Anonymous said...

Really? Facilities where?

Anonymous said...

Look it u[ if you're interested. They have facilities in Morristown and surrounding area.

Anonymous said...

Facilities are not good and not theirs

Anonymous said...

I heard of STA, I know someone from Freehold whose son plays on a satellite U16 Team out of Jackson and all the coach focuses on is a select 11 players and the other boys are allocated 5 minutes a half out of a 90 minute game. He says some guy named Rich Bart (PARENT)
the team manager makes the decisions on who plays and who doesn't play.

Anonymous said...

This is an academy blog. Why all this talk about a club who is not academy and anyway starters are always given the most playing time on club teams. At least academy teams have a 25% start rule.

Anonymous said...

A good coach will give all his players a chance. It is very humiliating and demoralizing to a kid to have to sit every game. Parents shouldn't accept that.

Anonymous said...

I like the philosophy that Philly Union has with playing time. They break up the team and if you do not have sufficient time at a game then you will be rostered for a scrimmage. They have a policy that grants respect to all players and therefore you develop the unity of team. It is a team sport not a one man showcase They are not about wins but developmemt. I am not putting down any other academy but I think that they should consider mirroring this approach. If you play the same kids giving them full game time they develop superiority over others more so then a coach could imagine. They shine with such confidence and then criticize those with less playing time when mistakes are made during a game. This Causes Even More Of A Team breakdown. They also take a blow to self esteem during a stage of crucial development of both physical and mental being. Coaches in academy should educate themselves on the mental game.

Anonymous said...

My child has offers from A teams at Cedar Stars Monmouth, PDA, and NJX. Only at pre academy age but a pretty good player so far. Can anyone give some info on the differences between the programs. Any advice on where we should go? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Champagne problem
Cedar Stars Monmouth is new and promising great things.
PDA has a track record of producing good teams.
NJX not true academy but that doesn't mean they aren't about development. Let your son choose where he feels most comfortable.

Anonymous said...

If that was my problem, closest one wins. You will be spending a lot of time at the fields.

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Anonymous said...

May 19th @ 1:17 am - how old is your kid?

Anonymous said...

Any experience with PDA boys affiliates North, South, or Shore...good, bad or indifferent.

Anonymous said...

PDA in Zarapeth is the real deal. South is weak, Shore is abysmal. Make the drive North. Period.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the PDA input. Any thoughts on CSA Monmouth being secondary to the CSA North teams, similar to PDA Zarapeth being the true Academy.

Anonymous said...

For those who have Boys in the USSDA Academy teams here, in your experience, what is the turnaround on returning players each season? are the teams re evaluated in the winter? is the program really about Developing Players...

Anonymous said...

From watching try outs, PDA talent level of their kids is much higher than the other programs mentioned.

Anonymous said...

CSA- Monmouth is the main site as is Zarapeth for PDA.

PDA does have a headstart on CSA . Only time will tell with CSA and the facilities and coaches

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Anonymous said...

"For those who have Boys in the USSDA Academy teams here, in your experience, what is the turnaround on returning players each season? are the teams re evaluated in the winter? is the program really about Developing Players...

May 24, 2016 at 5:27 PM"

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I think waivers are an academy's dirty little secret. They don't want player's playing HS soccer.